Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=Jj3000;5050452]I came to this country as a student more than 30 years ago.

Why did you stay here? The student exchange program was a result of WWI and WWII as cultural exchange with intent the best and brightest from other countries would come here, get a taste of democracy, and go back to lead their country into prosperity. The J-1 program started by JFK was particularly targeted for this goal during the cold war. That program has devolved into a ticket to the USA. That said, kudos to you coming here legally, you literally won the lottery. Most of us have no issue with legal immigration. Take care of an elderly parent (or look at what is (not) available to veterans) and see the fraud in our system of social services pillaging the social services by illegal (and legal) citizens and see what is left for those most in need who have spent their adult lives paying into the system. Wanting to correct that is not racists, that is fiscally responsible and fairness by providing for those for who it was intended.

I never met a liberal who is racist. That opinion is yours to own. I never met a liberal who could piss on a wall.

Every neo Nazi, KKK, all those white nationalists and about 40% of southern people belong to Republican party and have deep hatred towards colored people. Nice broad brush stroke. I have lived here most of my life and have never met a KKK member or proclaimed neo nazi or white nationalist,. I suspect you haven't either. A little self reflection and honesty is good for the soul.

How do I know? Because I have fucking white / olive skin and people like that fucker Nireluvr open up to me. How do you explain that that?

"people like night" not direct experience? Now who is the bigot? That would be you.

I have never seen this much hatred and anger in America ever since I have been here. It is sickening it is because of the bozo in the White House. Bozo? Not exactly, boorish, polarizing, and egotistical, yes, but he has done exactly what he set out to do and that is what is needed. When the extreme left presents a socialist agenda and has the likes of AOC and Pelosi as leaders. Damned right many of us have a problem with it.[/QUOTE]The last paragraph in all of this is exactly right.

[QUOTE=ST0808;5050029]LOL,

You are a real troll and a truly represent redneck bone head. I bet you work at buuba's tire shop and check and post something on every break you get. Usually people who never went to college are obsessed with other people's spelling and grammar.

[/QUOTE]Bubba's tire shop? Shit, I did work at a tire shop when I was 16 for about 6 months; however, I have a very good white collar job that you could never hope to obtain. Enjoy your coloring books for Christmas, asswipe.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5050128]So, that's your response to my post? I'm whoever you want me to be, sweetie...lol[/QUOTE]Nope, just a question.

[QUOTE=ST0808;5050029]LOL,

By the way English is my third language and I have pretty good command of it.

[/QUOTE]Forgot to add. So you fucked up your first two alleged languages and are now working on your third? At what point in life will you decide to stop being a dismal reflection of America's immigrants and go fuck off on a remote island forever? It's too late for birth control, so it's up to you now, boy.

Hate to be a pessimist so I've started a GoFundMe campaign to send you, the a-hole, off to Bikini Atoll.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5051183]Forgot to add. So you fucked up your first two alleged languages and are now working on your third? At what point in life will you decide to stop being a dismal reflection of America's immigrants and go fuck off on a remote island forever? It's too late for birth control, so it's up to you now, boy.

Hate to be a pessimist so I've started a GoFundMe campaign to send you, the a-hole, off to Bikini Atoll.[/QUOTE]How can we donate please send sky and gross dog or tell them thay can get FS I bet it will work.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5051143]Nope, just a question.[/QUOTE]Don't say that he may want you to be a ladyboy LOL. And who wants that at a camp.

[QUOTE=ST0808;5050029]LOL,

You are a real troll and a truly represent redneck bone head. I bet you work at buuba's tire shop and check and post something on every break you get. Usually people who never went to college are obsessed with other people's spelling and grammar.

Anyway, Liberal = love and respect.

Racist and rednecks like you = Hate, bigotry and making fun of other people's accent, pronunciation and spelling.

By the way English is my third language and I have pretty good command of it.

Go fuck yourself, LOL.[/QUOTE]Careful when you throw out general shit like that.

Some of us rednecks are more educated than you, with very high IQ's, and don't take kindly to being called racist.

You liberals talk a big game on here, but I promise you, this is one redneck, that you would not call racist in person.

Just don't group everyone together, libs are notorious for the name calling, but can't back it up.

But hell, what do I know, I'm just a dumbass redneck. LOL.

Oh yea, some of the smartest, kindest, most successful people ,Ive known DID NOT attend college. For whatever reason.

Typical liberal, talking down to the uneducated... really? What a closed minded thing to say.

How does it feel to be better than everyone else?

Liberal elitism,gotta love it.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J9SsH3Hn0bo[/URL]

Don't even got to state anything to him. This Tuesday election results will tell what America wants.

[QUOTE=Mike454;5052412]Careful when you throw out general shit like that.

Some of us rednecks are more educated than you, with very high IQ's, and don't take kindly to being called racist.

You liberals talk a big game on here, but I promise you, this is one redneck, that you would not call racist in person.

Just don't group everyone together, libs are notorious for the name calling, but can't back it up.

But hell, what do I know, I'm just a dumbass redneck. LOL.

Oh yea, some of the smartest, kindest, most successful people ,Ive known DID NOT attend college. For whatever reason.

Typical liberal, talking down to the uneducated... really? What a closed minded thing to say.

How does it feel to be better than everyone else?

Liberal elitism,gotta love it.[/QUOTE]

Can we finally stop all the bullshit about how one party is going to decimate the other in this election. As I write this, we still don't know who the next President will be, and even after the counting has ended, challenges, recounts, and lawsuits will keep thing muddled for the foreseeable future. What we do know is that this country deeply and evenly divided and that if we cannot figure out a way to work together we are screwed. Somehow, somewhere, reason must prevail.

At least the end of the election will allow us to get serious about the Covid virus. Over 100,000 new cases yesterday shows that our current tactics have been unsuccessful. The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.

In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us. ".

[QUOTE=Bullett64;5057422] The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.

[/QUOTE]Do you mind sharing what you're basing that on? If you look at the current rates of France, Belgium, and some other European countries that practiced your stern measures, Sweden is not doing any worse (in fact, better in some cases). I have not seen a change in their policy towards Coronavirus. Do you know something the rest of us don't?

Now, if you take into consideration on top of that the socioeconomic impact of these "stern measures", not just on said country implementing them, but worldwide, you have to wonder who the enemy really is? No one knows how long a vaccine might take, or how effective that vaccine might be, or for how long it might be effective. I don't think the world can afford to go hide under a rock while we wait on a vaccine, and I don't believe that's the healthiest thing for the world, either. We can agree to disagree, but we can't agree that you're going to impose your "stern measures" on everyone else.

BTW, I think it's apparent that the rest of the world doesn't necessarily agree with these stern measures either, witnessed by the protests against lockdowns taking place in many European countries now.

[QUOTE=ILuvEmall;5057774]Do you mind sharing what you're basing that on? [/QUOTE]Gladly.

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/swedish-pm-isolates-nation-sees-rising-virus-cases-74034905[/URL]

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/sweden-registers-record-4-034-131318859.html[/URL]

When comparing countries, geography and thus climate, plus population dispersion, become important factors.

Sweden raised eyebrows around the world earlier this year when it decided to keep schools, gyms and restaurants open and not issue a national mask mandate, though in past weeks it issued new restrictions such as limiting the number of people who can sit together at a restaurant to eight.

The Nordic country has had 141,764 confirmed coronavirus cases in total, including 4,034 new cases reported Thursday. Just over 6,000 people have died. The tallies surpass those of its neighbouring countries, including Denmark, which has had 50,530 cases and 729 deaths, and Norway, which has counted 21,954 cases and only 282 deaths.

Thanks for the links, I appreciate that. But I noticed you quoted selectively, and left out some important parts:

"As to the two-week cumulative number of COVID-19 cases per 100,000, Sweden has 293, Denmark 233 and Norway 97.3. The corresponding number of deaths is 0. 7 in Sweden and Denmark, and 0. 1 in Norway. ".

Comparing Sweden and Denmark, the recent numbers don't seem that different, and Sweden doesn't seem worse than others. That is backed up by the numbers reported here as well: [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/.[/URL] Looking over those numbers, I see many, many countries practicing lockdowns in far worse shape than Sweden.

Now, Sweden itself will be the first to admit it made mistakes in the way it handled the elderly in the early days of the Coronavirus. I think the whole world had a lot to learn about Coronavirus at that time, and no one got it 100% right, and sacrifices were made in one form or another causing loss of life, whether or not that is officially recognized in the stats or not. As your post said, "The Future" let's focus on that and not waste time looking back at past mistakes, except to learn from them. Looking at the more recent numbers, I don't see the basis for your case. And particularly not when you take into account the socioeconomic impacts that you don't care to address. Norway and Denmark happen to be very wealthy countries that can afford to lockdown, but that's not the case for most countries. And I won't get into the impact this has on the world supply chain and those 3rd world countries and lives lost there, which believe me, dwarf the COVID losses (now estimated at 1. 2 M vs the 9 M lives estimated by the WHO to be lost due to the economic impacts of the COVID shutdowns).

I also don't agree with your point about Sweden changing its stance. There's nothing in those links that indicates any drastic change in Sweden's original recommendations, only that they are perhaps tightening up on those recommendations and beginning to enforce those, instead of relying solely on voluntary compliance. So what if their PM got COVID and had to self-isolate? That's common sense. That has no bearing whatsoever on their approach to COVID- it's completely irrelevant and nothing but sensatiionalism, just as the rest of the content was sensationalized. I hardly see this in the light that you presented it- that their model has "crumbled" and they need to implement "stern" measures while they wait on a vaccine. Life is going on for the Swedes, they're not hiding in a cave waiting for a vaccine.

[QUOTE=ILuvEmall;5058376]Thanks for the links, I appreciate that. But I noticed you quoted selectively, and left out some important parts:

"As to the two-week cumulative number of COVID-19 cases per 100,000, Sweden has 293, Denmark 233 and Norway 97.3. The corresponding number of deaths is 0. 7 in Sweden and Denmark, and 0. 1 in Norway. ".

Comparing Sweden and Denmark, the recent numbers don't seem that different, and Sweden doesn't seem worse than others. That is backed up by the numbers reported here as well: [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/.[/URL] Looking over those numbers, I see many, many countries practicing lockdowns in far worse shape than Sweden.[/QUOTE]If you look at the geography of the three countries, Denmark is by far the outlier. Absent the Kiel Canal, it is basically Germany with a far denser population than its northern neighbors. Both Norway and Sweden have vast areas with little population and share a common border. Yet Norway has 1/3 the infection rate of Sweden. Population density is the global equivalent of social distancing. If two very similar areas have such different infection rates, it is not difficult to determine why.

You are free to disagree. But thanks for the civil discourse.

[QUOTE=Bullett64;5058429]If you look at the geography of the three countries, Denmark is by far the outlier. Absent the Kiel Canal, it is basically Germany with a far denser population than its northern neighbors. Both Norway and Sweden have vast areas with little population and share a common border. Yet Norway has 1/3 the infection rate of Sweden. Population density is the global equivalent of social distancing. If two very similar areas have such different infection rates, it is not difficult to determine why.

You are free to disagree. But thanks for the civil discourse.[/QUOTE]What you seem to advocate is shut down everything until the virus is completely dead, thereby saving many lives in your opinion. What your opinion does not seem to include is the many, many more lives that will be lost due to the shutdown or the decimated economy, lost businesses and jobs that will certainly result from the second shutdown that is inevitable now that Harris has won the presidency. Hell is coming. A vote for Harris / Biden has guaranteed that grim reality. Congratulations. If you voted Harris / Biden you have voted to fuck America. Well done, comrades.

If you want to get into those kind of comparisons, I would argue that neither Norway nor Denmark has near the amount of industry that Sweden does, so neither make a good comparison on that basis. And Sweden has said all along that their approach is a long-term approach. It makes no sense to be drawing conclusions at this point, especially based on a single snapshot in time. Of course overall numbers of neighboring countries who are in lockdowns will be lower during those times, that's only common sense! The premise all along has been that this is only delaying the spread of the virus (while causing other health and economic damage in the meanwhile). I think this has been borne out by those countries that have locked down and opened back up, and seen the corresponding virus spikes. Do you contend we should have locked down the entire world since March? And again, you do not address or even acknowledge the adverse effects that the lockdowns have on peoples' physical, mental, and economic well being. This has been documented and can be witnessed through increased depression, suicide, and murder rates, and decreases in physical health levels.

I think Sweden's approach of reasonable distancing and practical living is a perferctly rational way to go about handling this pandemic. They are now taking precautions to shelter the elderly and infirmed, and so long as their hospitals are not overwhelmed, there is no need for them to cripple their entire country by shutting down the nation.

[QUOTE=Bullett64;5058429]If you look at the geography of the three countries, Denmark is by far the outlier. Absent the Kiel Canal, it is basically Germany with a far denser population than its northern neighbors. Both Norway and Sweden have vast areas with little population and share a common border. Yet Norway has 1/3 the infection rate of Sweden. Population density is the global equivalent of social distancing. If two very similar areas have such different infection rates, it is not difficult to determine why.

You are free to disagree. But thanks for the civil discourse.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bullett64;5057422]Can we finally stop all the bullshit about how one party is going to decimate the other in this election. As I write this, we still don't know who the next President will be, and even after the counting has ended, challenges, recounts, and lawsuits will keep thing muddled for the foreseeable future. What we do know is that this country deeply and evenly divided and that if we cannot figure out a way to work together we are screwed. Somehow, somewhere, reason must prevail.

At least the end of the election will allow us to get serious about the Covid virus. Over 100,000 new cases yesterday shows that our current tactics have been unsuccessful. The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.

In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us. ".[/QUOTE]

FWIW, Biden will be our next POTUS, after he wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania. For all intents and purposes, the Presidential race is over, it’s been one hairy ass roller coaster ride for FOUR FUCKING YEARS, we have now finally pulled into the station and I want to get the hell off. In my estimation Biden wins 306 Electoral College votes to Trump’s 232.

Unfortunately, the political madness continues in Georgia into the new year with both our Senate races heading into a runoff. Georgia will now be overwhelmed with negative ads through the upcoming holiday season in the midst of a pandemic rapidly spiraling out of control.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5058972]FWIW, Biden will be our next POTUS, after he wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania. For all intents and purposes, the Presidential race is over, its been one hairy ass roller coaster ride for FOUR FUCKING YEARS, we have now finally pulled into the station and I want to get the hell off. In my estimation Biden wins 306 Electoral College votes to Trumps 232.

Unfortunately, the political madness continues in Georgia into the new year with both our Senate races heading into a runoff. Georgia will now be overwhelmed with negative ads through the upcoming holiday season in the midst of a pandemic rapidly spiraling out of control.[/QUOTE]There will be no healing and I would guess that a full 60 percent people who work for living and pay taxes voted Republican. The narrative that Republican voters are stupid and uneducated is a joke when you look at the cities of welfare bums and babymamas that all vote democrat so they can keep getting their free shit and playing the victim. An unintended consequence of this election is that for many years, half the country will never believe a fucking word the mainstream media has to say about anything. Trump was not my favorite guy but I know what bullshit looks like when you have 99.5% negative coverage. The true hatred will continue and that senile asshole Biden isn't bring anyone together for his build back better economic package (seriously a retarded 3 year old could have done better with a slogan). The media will say we are all healed, cancel culture will continue, and any problems will be blamed on Trump. The silver lining is the poor slob democrats will still be poor slob democrats and when the economy tanks, I still have a job as I have my own business which is doing fine. Will deeply enjoy watching the Baristas, Bartenders, Drug addicted waiters / waitresses eat catfood after the lockdowns completely kill the businesses where they work that are owned by Republicans that tried to save the economy. As to your point about negative ads, California faggots and NY assholes will dump $500,000,000.00 into the Senate race and the fat-ass suburban housewives will have gotten Trump out and hopefully will have come to their senses in places like Cobb and elsewhere and will vote Conservative again. Once the Senate is held, no Court packing, no new States, and the crazy liberal bullshit won't see the light of day. No 4 B stimulus to bail out the pension funds for the California, Chicago, and New York and Nancy just lost her 2 B package as she overplayed the fuck out of her hand. As to the violence and rioting that will continue in places that voted heavily democrat, you reap what your sow fuckers.For the smarmy douche who will be reading this in his third language, that means you break it, you buy it fucktard.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5020012][BLUE]This post will be at the top of this thread until November 10th (one week after the election) as a reminder that threats are not allowed on this thread and that INCLUDES two guys dicing it up and one of them making a friendly suggestion to get together over a beer because you're not fooling anybody.

I honestly don't care how long these arguments go on and I honestly appreciate you guys limiting the political stuff to the fight thread however; no violence, no threats of violence.

Thanks,

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Kick their asses off! How does any of it help anyone, liberal or conservative, find pussy? There are a zillion web sites for arguing political bullshit!

Lick there pussy till they cum LOL.

[QUOTE=ILuvEmall;5058934]If you want to get into those kind of comparisons, I would argue that neither Norway nor Denmark has near the amount of industry that Sweden does, so neither make a good comparison on that basis. And Sweden has said all along that their approach is a long-term approach. It makes no sense to be drawing conclusions at this point, especially based on a single snapshot in time. Of course overall numbers of neighboring countries who are in lockdowns will be lower during those times, that's only common sense! The premise all along has been that this is only delaying the spread of the virus (while causing other health and economic damage in the meanwhile). I think this has been borne out by those countries that have locked down and opened back up, and seen the corresponding virus spikes. Do you contend we should have locked down the entire world since March? And again, you do not address or even acknowledge the adverse effects that the lockdowns have on peoples' physical, mental, and economic well being. This has been documented and can be witnessed through increased depression, suicide, and murder rates, and decreases in physical health levels.

I think Sweden's approach of reasonable distancing and practical living is a perferctly rational way to go about handling this pandemic. They are now taking precautions to shelter the elderly and infirmed, and so long as their hospitals are not overwhelmed, there is no need for them to cripple their entire country by shutting down the nation.[/QUOTE]The one and only reason countries around the world have gone into full lock down mode is to prevent their health care facilities from being overwhelmed. People, this is not complicated, this administration by letting the coronavirus surge through the U.S. population with minimal testing, minimal social distancing and encouraging minimal face mask wearing has allowed the U.S to become the world's largest experiment in herd immunity. We shall see how this experiment in herd immunity works out.

[QUOTE=Ump1969;5059371]Kick their asses off! How does any of it help anyone, liberal or conservative, find pussy? There are a zillion web sites for arguing political bullshit![/QUOTE]Sir, you are free to leave at any time. May the pussy be with you!

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[BLUE]The whole idea of threads like this is to say all the shit that you want to say (check below for stuff that is still off limits) but we won't let you because we want to keep the convo in the review threads on pussy.[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=VMackey02;5059321]There will be no healing and I would guess that a full 60 percent people who work for living and pay taxes voted Republican. The narrative that Republican voters are stupid and uneducated is a joke when you look at the cities of welfare bums and babymamas that all vote democrat so they can keep getting their free shit and playing the victim. An unintended consequence of this election is that for many years, half the country will never believe a fucking word the mainstream media has to say about anything. Trump was not my favorite guy but I know what bullshit looks like when you have 99.5% negative coverage. The true hatred will continue and that senile asshole Biden isn't bring anyone together for his build back better economic package (seriously a retarded 3 year old could have done better with a slogan). The media will say we are all healed, cancel culture will continue, and any problems will be blamed on Trump. The silver lining is the poor slob democrats will still be poor slob democrats and when the economy tanks, I still have a job as I have my own business which is doing fine. Will deeply enjoy watching the Baristas, Bartenders, Drug addicted waiters / waitresses eat catfood after the lockdowns completely kill the businesses where they work that are owned by Republicans that tried to save the economy. As to your point about negative ads, California faggots and NY assholes will dump $500,000,000.00 into the Senate race and the fat-ass suburban housewives will have gotten Trump out and hopefully will have come to their senses in places like Cobb and elsewhere and will vote Conservative again. Once the Senate is held, no Court packing, no new States, and the crazy liberal bullshit won't see the light of day. No 4 B stimulus to bail out the pension funds for the California, Chicago, and New York and Nancy just lost her 2 B package as she overplayed the fuck out of her hand. As to the violence and rioting that will continue in places that voted heavily democrat, you reap what your sow fuckers.For the smarmy douche who will be reading this in his third language, that means you break it, you buy it fucktard.[/QUOTE]This should be a sticky. Well said.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059632]The one and only reason countries around the world have gone into full lock down mode is to prevent their health care facilities from being overwhelmed. People, this is not complicated, this administration by letting the coronavirus surge through the U.S. population with minimal testing, minimal social distancing and encouraging minimal face mask wearing has allowed the U.S to become the world's largest experiment in herd immunity. We shall see how this experiment in herd immunity works out.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I am wrong Sgt Sanctimonious but aren't the governors of each state not the gate keepers of who stays and who goes and the implementation of what state wide measures are put in place? Check out California and NY numbers while you are at it and then explain to me how this administration is to blame. Is it because we did not have enough ventilators to do long term lung damage to the lucky survivors or is it because the prior administration left our PPP stockrooms filled with empty air, dust bunnies, and rat bait stations? As to our testing, we have done more testing than almost any country in the world. Lastly, perhaps the reason we weren't prepared for the virus before it exploded may have something to do with the fact that the the White House, congress, and senate were embroiled in the biggest bullshit impeachment effort in all of history and the media was busy reporting on hard hitting journalism such as Trump's two scoops of ice cream. Only a myopic idiot would try and blame this all on the White House as there is plenty of responsibility to go around. Your party saw this as an election issue and put the fear of god, well ok they don't believe in god but you get my point, into their sheep and I feel blessed to be alive after narrowly avoiding the. 001% fatality rate. Make sure to raise your mask in between bites and stay safe.

President Trump needs to declare Martial Law. And when the Marxists riot he immediately should invoke the Insurrection Act.

[QUOTE=VMackey02;5059740]Correct me if I am wrong Sgt Sanctimonious but aren't the governors of each state not the gate keepers of who stays and who goes and the implementation of what state wide measures are put in place? Check out California and NY numbers while you are at it and then explain to me how this administration is to blame. Is it because we did not have enough ventilators to do long term lung damage to the lucky survivors or is it because the prior administration left our PPP stockrooms filled with empty air, dust bunnies, and rat bait stations? As to our testing, we have done more testing than almost any country in the world. Lastly, perhaps the reason we weren't prepared for the virus before it exploded may have something to do with the fact that the the White House, congress, and senate were embroiled in the biggest bullshit impeachment effort in all of history and the media was busy reporting on hard hitting journalism such as Trump's two scoops of ice cream. Only a myopic idiot would try and blame this all on the White House as there is plenty of responsibility to go around. Your party saw this as an election issue and put the fear of god, well ok they don't believe in god but you get my point, into their sheep and I feel blessed to be alive after narrowly avoiding the. 001% fatality rate. Make sure to raise your mask in between bites and stay safe.[/QUOTE]FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059934]FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, he does put on a hell of show Mr. Scaramucci.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059934]FYI, I voted for Trump in 2016, however this is my blunt assessment of Trump, He's a petty, petulant coward who should be locked in jail for the rest of his days. He's a disgusting human being, with not a single redeeming quality as a man, husband, father, businessman or politician. He cares nothing for anyone but himself and has no empathy, sympathy or morals. Satan himself looks upon Trump in disgust. Just today we passed a daily record of 120,000+ new cases of COVID. Hundreds of millions of us are wearing masks and or hunkered down in our communities and homes trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity, we are trying to protect the health of our loved ones and families, trying to stay safe ourselves and protect others, and this massive asshole has to go and get some self-gratification holding huge campaign rallies and possibly infect who knows how many other people in the process. He's a criminal sociopath and a major fucking asshole. There's no other way to describe it.[/QUOTE]So then, why did you vote for Trump again?

Stay tuned for the first episode of the Skippy Biden and ShamWow Harris dog and pony show. Like Biden won't shit himself if he had to handle a real national emergency? Wonder if ShamWow is in charge of getting Biden's adult diapers rhino lined.

As for Covid, Skippy can't do much. Most Americans are too stubborn to wear masks and virtually no business is actively enforcing it.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059934]trying to make a living in this damaged economy that Trump wrecked through his negligence and stupidity.[/QUOTE]There were ZERO MAGA hat wearing assholes insisting that the economy gets destroyed, that was totally and completely a product of the left. You can spew as much bullshit as you want about it but blaming Trump for the covid economy is as big a lie as him saying there is fraud in the election.

The left DEMANDED that the worlds economy get destroyed and now is trying to avoid that responsibility, it's fucking disgusting.

A2.

[QUOTE=Bullett64;5057422]Can we finally stop all the bullshit about how one party is going to decimate the other in this election. As I write this, we still don't know who the next President will be, and even after the counting has ended, challenges, recounts, and lawsuits will keep thing muddled for the foreseeable future. What we do know is that this country deeply and evenly divided and that if we cannot figure out a way to work together we are screwed. Somehow, somewhere, reason must prevail.

At least the end of the election will allow us to get serious about the Covid virus. Over 100,000 new cases yesterday shows that our current tactics have been unsuccessful. The vaunted Swedish model has crumbled and they have come to the realisation that ignoring the problem will not make it go away. Unfortunately stern measures are necessary on a temporary basis until a vaccine is developed and distributed.

In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us. ".[/QUOTE]Go to the cdc site and observe the average daily death rate. Shouldn't our year to date tally be 200,000+ higher than last year? Also please note that covid must be the new cure for the flu. Flu deaths are almost 0.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5060318]So then, why did you vote for Trump again?

Stay tuned for the first episode of the Skippy Biden and ShamWow Harris dog and pony show. Like Biden won't shit himself if he had to handle a real national emergency? Wonder if ShamWow is in charge of getting Biden's adult diapers rhino lined.

As for Covid, Skippy can't do much. Most Americans are too stubborn to wear masks and virtually no business is actively enforcing it.[/QUOTE]Did you read what I posted? Me vote for this shit-stain again. Hell NO! Trump fucked himself by botching the COVID-19 response. Americans defer to the President in times of crisis. All Trump needed to do was say a few encouraging words and follow public health recommendations. He should have let public health officials do all the actual work and have them in front of the camera most of the time. Had he done those things, he'd probably have won his re-election in a landslide.

[QUOTE=Admin2;5060419]There were ZERO MAGA hat wearing assholes insisting that the economy gets destroyed, that was totally and completely a product of the left. You can spew as much bullshit as you want about it but blaming Trump for the covid economy is as big a lie as him saying there is fraud in the election.

The left DEMANDED that the worlds economy get destroyed and now is trying to avoid that responsibility, it's fucking disgusting.

A2.[/QUOTE]Well, the data suggests the opposite, countries that took DRAMATIC steps to protect their population's health in the pandemic have generally also protected their economy too.

[I]The charts show that countries which suffered the most severe economic downturns like Peru, Spain and the UK are generally among the countries with the highest COVID-19 death rate.

And the reverse is also true: countries where the economic impact has been modest like Taiwan, South Korea, and Lithuania have also managed to keep the death rate low.

Notice too that countries with similar falls in GDP have witnessed very different death rates. For instance, compare the US and Sweden with Denmark and Poland. All four countries saw economic contractions of around 8 to 9 percent, but the death rates are markedly different: the US and Sweden have recorded 5 to 10 times more deaths per million.[/I]

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/covid-health-economy[/URL]

You should write the sequel to Freakonmics and you can cite all your statistics and ignore the underlying root causes and shared responsibility. You still have failed to address the democrat responses in NY, IL, and CA, all of which have some of the highest rates in the country (even with draconian lockdowns) or the fact that this virus is NOT that deadly. Permanently killing the jobs of 10's of millions of people is straight up lunacy. Let me throw some truth on you while I'm at it Libtard. We are going to 200 K cases a day between Thanksgiving and Christmas. So hunker down with your loved ones, family, and 20 favorite CAMP girls (who have probably all been exposed and never knew it) and protect them. Hobbyman and I have some free time this weekend and we will build you a giant fucking cross to carry around on your back as you carry the weight of the world on your shoulders so everyone will KNOW. Take solace in the face that on Jan 20, 2021 we will all be saved when Dementia Joe takes office and has more Lids than a Tupperware party as he grinds out the 3 hour work days. We're fucked.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5060444]Well, the data suggests the opposite, countries that took DRAMATIC steps to protect their population's health in the pandemic have generally also protected their economy too. [I]The charts show that countries which suffered the most severe economic downturns like Peru, Spain and the UK are generally among the countries with the highest COVID-19 death rate. And the reverse is also true: countries where the economic impact has been modest like Taiwan, South Korea, and Lithuania have also managed to keep the death rate low. Notice too that countries with similar falls in GDP have witnessed very different death rates. For instance, compare the US and Sweden with Denmark and Poland. All four countries saw economic contractions of around 8 to 9 percent, but the death rates are markedly different: the US and Sweden have recorded 5 to 10 times more deaths per million.[/I] [URL]https://ourworldindata.org/covid-health-economy[/URL][/QUOTE]I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.

Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5059632]The one and only reason countries around the world have gone into full lock down mode is to prevent their health care facilities from being overwhelmed. People, this is not complicated, this administration by letting the coronavirus surge through the U.S. population with minimal testing, minimal social distancing and encouraging minimal face mask wearing has allowed the U.S to become the world's largest experiment in herd immunity. We shall see how this experiment in herd immunity works out.[/QUOTE]I think you're sadly misinformed, even if you do speak from a position of absolute enlightenment. Full lock down mode has certainly not been about preventing overwhelming the hospitals in this country. Witness the way Georgia was so roundly criticized by the rest of the country, despite the fact that its hospitals were never overwhelmed. Witness the way CA and Washington state prohibited people from even going outdoors (even giving tickets for going fishing of all things!), even though their hospitals were never overwhelmed. Witness the way Sweden has been so roundly criticized when their hospitals were never in jeopardy of being overwhelmed.

Also, this was never about "herd immunity", either here or in Sweden. You should educate yourself a little better before you proclaim yourself as an expert and pretend to have all the answers.

[QUOTE=Trump45;5059772]President Trump needs to declare Martial Law. And when the Marxists riot he immediately should invoke the Insurrection Act.[/QUOTE]Clever disguise Oldti but the syntax gave you away.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5060632]I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.

Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.[/QUOTE]I agree. There are two reasons that South Korea has been so successful:

1. Their about the size of Indiana, give or take.

2. Koreans are naturally nosy as shit, so contact tracing becomes easy when they can dedicate small armies of healthcare workers to track people down and test them. Can you imagine trying to do contact tracing on everyone in the US? Wonder how many millions of healthcare workers that would take and if most Americans would even respond positively to having their personal lives scrutinized.

Yes it's all over now.

Over for this country.

Over for people of my minority.

Over for the growth of this nation.

The crooked politician with dirt and blood on his hands is now running the country. Coupled with a woman of questionable identity and morals.

I now expect this country to be run into the ground by illegal aliens. This country is now WIDE OPEN for anyone to come in and take advantage of the US welfare system. Illegal immigrants who DO NOT pay taxes will take advantage of this country and all its opportunities. While hard-working tax payers fit the bill.

Only one I hate more than Biden, is SCAMala Harris. I am more concerned about Biden kicking the bucket, and allowing her to run this country.

Hopefully I am still here 4 years from now, but I don't believe things will Improve.

In 4 years this country will be run into the ground, and there will be another major war on our hands.

There is nothing left for me to say. Don't bother replying, because I have left this thread for good.

Enjoy your democratic victory, and the demise of this country. Good day or good riddance.

[QUOTE=VMackey02;5060553] Take solace in the face that on Jan 20, 2021 we will all be saved when Dementia Joe takes office and has more Lids than a Tupperware party as he grinds out the 3 hour work days. We're fucked.[/QUOTE]My sentiments exactly. And when he croaks in office, we'll have ShamWow the fake black woman running the country? Absurd.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5060632]I always get a big laugh when people want to compare the large, diverse Unites States to countries that will either fit within the 5 bureaus of NY or inside the entire state of NY. The US territory covers a good 80+ % of all of Europe. Notice the select charts chosen do not include Chine or Russia for two reasons. They may be worse but most likely, we will never get a straight answer out of them.

Just because something works on a small scale does not mean it can work on a much larger scale.[/QUOTE]China with ONE BILLION more people than the US in only 3% more land so 4 times the population density as well whcih have been exposed to Covid longer than any group in the world really, really, really, no seriously REALLY has only had 85 K cases and 4500 dead people. No seriously, really, the US is the worst in the world.

Thank god this all ends this week. Maybe another 400,000,000 lives in the third world don't need to be destroyed.

A2.