PLEASE give us more detail.
Chester:
We all need to know the details of any actual bust you have experienced. Do you REALLY mean you were busted? What was the FIRST mistake you made? How would you have recognized the set up the next time? (Or do you mean you were ripped off? That is different)
It is rare that mongers have the cajones to spell out how their bust went down. It seems that you MAY have that information. Please spell it out in great detail, as it will educate us about what not to do.
Eager for any details you might provide.
Giani.
[QUOTE=Chester67;1075043]... I have been busted before. You don't get ambushed by a pimp either in case you want to leave. I have been confronted before and didn't flinch. I left in one piece but made it clear I wouldn't repeat that mistake. ....[/QUOTE]
Intriguing post. *We* have been wondering where all the providers are!
I am sure lots of guys ARE reading your post and interested. Any idea why only four of your previous posts come up?
Got any reviews to share? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Victoria35;1075123]Well man the past two weeks I don't have a clue what is happening. For the first time ever I had NO clients on a Friday night. I am a bit worried. Like I said the past two weeks biz has slowly declined its a little crazy. If the same is happening to any other girls do tell. So, guys if your reading this call me.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, Chester, the "cop check" won't work.
[QUOTE=Chester67; 1075189]* My bust happened 15 or so years ago in Tennessee. I showed up to the room and like the rookie I was, began speaking freely with the girl. I wanted FS and laid the money on the table. She didn't have to do or say anything. I hung myself by stating what I wanted and giving her money.
* the cops came into the room, asked me to put my clothes on. They gave me a citation for solicitation *
Since then, any provider I went to had to kiss me or let me kiss their bare breasts or if they're really hot, lick their 'nether-region' in order to prove to me they weren't with the law. Even if the girl was a referral from a fellow monger, I still did the test. Reason is, cops were turning the girls they'd busted and making them work undercover for a lighter sentence. *[/QUOTE]The crime is the deed for money OR the agreement to do the deed for money OR in some states the agreement to do the deed for money plus a step in furtherance of the agreement. When we find a girl on an escort site, when we call her advertised number, we're on tape or we email. When we show up at the appointed place at the appointed time acting like we're where we're supposed to be to meet (inert name from the ad) and call her by name we I'd ourselves as the guy behind the phone / email. We are made. Nothing else has to happen. Of course it does, taking the money, the clothes, but that's just to make it harder for us to fight it given our wife, our employer, etc.
Besides, the "cop check" counts as the deed unless you are shaking her hand.
Educational value of Chester's bust
Thanks Chester for the details of your bust. I am sure you now know all too well the errors made. You have illustrated several for us:
1) "Speaking freely" (what sex act you want and what you are willing to pay) should ONLY be conducted after a serious LE check has been done: you feel her breasts, she grabs your crotch, or you hers. LE stingers will do none of these. While it is plausible that an SW who has been black mailed into serving in a sting might permit this, but would not hold up in court (I have yet to hear cofirmation that this paranoid possibility has occurred). Mind you, once the check IS done, be very explicit about what exactly you want, and for exactly how much. It makes it much more likely that you will be satisfied.
2) "Paying up front" is always a big mistake with ANY provider. You lose control once she has the money in hand. Her attitude may dramatically change and what you thought was agreed upon suddenly becomes negotiable. It is ESPECIALLY a problem if she "has to step out" after getting your $. You will be lucky if you see her again...
The errors you describe can occur with the 0.2 SW, or the $$$ call girl. Anyone who has engaged in the hobby for any time can recite similar 'educational' experiences.
[QUOTE=Chester67; 1075189]. I showed up to the room and like the rookie I was, began speaking freely with the girl. I wanted FS and laid the money on the table. She didn't have to do or say anything. I hung myself by stating what I wanted and giving her money.
She says 'get comfortable (meaning take off your clothes) and I'll be right back'.
Cops were turning the girls they'd busted and making them work undercover for a lighter sentence. [/QUOTE]
Quite correct and it varies by state.
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1075323]The crime is the deed for money OR the agreement to do the deed for money OR in some states the agreement to do the deed for money plus a step in furtherance of the agreement. When we find a girl on an escort site, when we call her advertised number, we're on tape or we email. When we show up at the appointed place at the appointed time acting like we're where we're supposed to be to meet (inert name from the ad) and call her by name we I'd ourselves as the guy behind the phone / email. We are made. Nothing else has to happen. Of course it does, taking the money, the clothes, but that's just to make it harder for us to fight it given our wife, our employer, etc.
Besides, the "cop check" counts as the deed unless you are shaking her hand. [/QUOTE]
In Utah for example if you were to touch the lady's hip less than 6 inches from the area covered by a G-string you can be popped (and the same for the lady if she allows it) for soliciting or for imposition if no cash has traded hands yet. First time I heard it when I was out there I laughed until the guy told me he got off by virtue of his lawyer using a ruler to prove that the area he was shown touching was at 7 inches.
They also have another one on the books that requires a property owner be notified in writing 24 hrs before a performance that is sexual in nature occurs on the premises. This one is used a lot when they can't get the
lady for soliciting because even if she only dances, she still has performed and its almost guaranteed no notice was given. This works for both hotels and apartment building if the lady is doing incall.
And you thought it was strange here.
