[QUOTE=Babee Doll]Gentlemen,
Please remember that this is an opinion.
I handle negotiations all day in my Monday thru Friday, 9 to 5....
Bb[/QUOTE]Simply said, very well put. she's right.
Be safe
AC
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[QUOTE=Babee Doll]Gentlemen,
Please remember that this is an opinion.
I handle negotiations all day in my Monday thru Friday, 9 to 5....
Bb[/QUOTE]Simply said, very well put. she's right.
Be safe
AC
I don't know who Babee Doll is, but she lives ALOT better than my dog and I do and pockets nearly my net income just in her 11 hour a week play time!!
I have to wash my own car, clean my own house more than once a week, groom my own dog when he needs it and service my own car most of the time or bum a ride when I have to drop it off. I spend more than 11 hours on all that and still have to do the work... My dog doesn't get groomed once a month, my car surely doesnt get serviced once a month and I've never had a mani or a pedi.
I actually envy you!
:-)
After showing Babee Doll accounting to one of the married guys in my office we compare my single expenses vs his married and no childern expenses. I could bore you with the details. If any one is interested I have them in a spread sheet PM me if you want them. Bottom line married life cost him $2923 per month more then if he was single. He would get more with Babee Doll in a week than he gets in a month. If he used Barbee doll normal rate and his at home batting average it would only cost him 1600 a net saving of 1323.00
Babydoll honey,
In this service business – I think that you are confused that any consumer would ever really care about the relationship between your direct cost and therefore your calculation of your price schedule, or
Even your ‘stiff-neck’ reluctance to ‘negotiate’ as well!
BOTTOM LINE: on one’s own quality merits.
If a provider is good, as in really really good –
Well, that’s one pricing $$ thing.
On the other hand – if a provider sucks, as in really really sucks –
Well, that’s probably even BETTER!
Good luck with your enterprise.
Be safe honey!
She seems to be complaining about how difficult it is to run her 'business' and complaining about all her expenses - - but she isn't quiting to get a 9 to 5 job is she?
It must not be as bad as she says if she isn't quitting. She can charge what she wants, there are more than enough girls for $100 per hour (or less) that I could never even find the time to see them all.
She also has alot of room to cut the expenses she is complaining about. Spending $92 a day for a room is pure insanity. She should either rent her a one bedroom apartment for business or do outcalls.
[QUOTE=Wyldhorses]She seems to be complaining about how difficult it is to run her 'business' and complaining about all her expenses - - but she isn't quiting to get a 9 to 5 job is she?
It must not be as bad as she says if she isn't quitting. She can charge what she wants, there are more than enough girls for $100 per hour (or less) that I could never even find the time to see them all.
She also has alot of room to cut the expenses she is complaining about. Spending $92 a day for a room is pure insanity. She should either rent her a one bedroom apartment for business or do outcalls.[/QUOTE]She might only rent the room for 3 or 4 days a week. She may be actually living there so she could only count it as an expense on the days she was working.
I am sure of course she gets paid in cash and then pays income tax. Right? LOL yea right.
8k take home is probably equal to 140k year job. Only less than 20 hours a week.
[QUOTE=Retskir]I don't know who Babee Doll is, but she lives ALOT better than my dog and I do and pockets nearly my net income just in her 11 hour a week play time!!
:-)[/QUOTE]
Remember the money they make is ALL 100% tax free too. We have to pay almost half of our income to taxes. Prostitutes keep 100% of what they make and pay zero taxes. That also makes a huge difference.
[QUOTE=Wyldhorses]She seems to be complaining about how difficult it is to run her 'business' and complaining about all her expenses - - but she isn't quiting to get a 9 to 5 job is she?
It must not be as bad as she says if she isn't quitting. She can charge what she wants, there are more than enough girls for $100 per hour (or less) that I could never even find the time to see them all.
She also has alot of room to cut the expenses she is complaining about. Spending $92 a day for a room is pure insanity. She should either rent her a one bedroom apartment for business or do outcalls.[/QUOTE]A lot of men don't even think about what "our" expenses might be... She is just stating facts. Real Escorts put a lot of time and effort into our appearance ...etc.
You say it is insanity to spend 92$ a day on a room, when you are probably one of the guys who would complain about lesser accomodations.
Nevermind... I don't even have the time nor the inclination to argue with ya. Leave BabeeDoll alone and move on to the cheaper poon!
Look fellows, we all have our thoughts about how much a provider should charge or not charge, but in my experience though brief, we generally get what we pay for. A LADY such as Babee an ladies such as Sarah, Heaven and others that we all know are excellent providers deserve to be paid what they ask for. We expect them to be on their game anytime we see them and even though they are human, they accomodate us like the pro's that they are. We pay for their excellence. Superstar performers get superstar pay. Now I say that if a performer does not live up to their salaries then we can and should nego. Their pay, but for the superstars, pay them and move on to your next dream. And by the way, my man Avon Barksdale does not lie. Nikki-damm.
Here! Here! I couldn't have said that better myself. Thank you BB for putting that out there for us all.
[QUOTE=Babee Doll]Gentlemen,
Please remember that this is an opinion.
I handle negotiations all day in my Monday thru Friday, 9 to 5.
Negotiation is not an option in my play, but if you want to. Fine.
Let's put it all on the table, shall we?
I'm low voume, 10. 12 a week so let's call it 44 hours a month.
That's $8, 800. 00 a month. WOW! Big number, right?
Is it really?
1st. Accomadations. I do not do 'no tells' or outcalls to hotels if you are a local. I keep a room that costs me $92. 25 a day. Whether I use it once a day, 5 times a day or not at all.
2nd. Presentation a) My hair (shut UP SL) and nails. I spend 3 hours a month getting my hair cut & colored. $250. 00 a month. Having to wash it, rinse it, and style it after every date (aside from time and damage done from over working my hair as it were)I do not use products you can buy at WalMart, so this "hobby" costs me there also. I have not had fake nails in years until I started this so. $50. 00 a week for a mani/pedi. B)Make. Up. Yes, I would use it anyway, but I use more now.
C)Clothing. No way did I buy that bood red corset to wear cleaning the house or for my 9 to 5. Ditto with the thigh highs, the 6in heels, the school girl outfit, the cat outfit, the bunny outfit, the lace lingerie.
D)Supplies. Box of covers at $15. 00 at WalMart. Usually 40 a box. Lube. At $10. 00. Oils, lotions etc. Varies depending on type. Again, I spend for quality. Mine costs $12. 99 plus tax at Ike's. Also, there are people allergic to lanolin and latex so you have to have both on hand.
E)Tools. I did not need a laptop, a flash drive, a seperate phone line or an air card until I started this. Phone & aircard. $90. 00 a month. I will absorb the cost of the laptop as I use it for "real world" also.
F)Other. Some girls wax, pay for professional pics, pay for thier website or for advertising, or to be members of web sites. So let's low ball all that together at $100. 00 a month.
Add the "legal" aspects (the risk. Y'all get a slap on the wrist. We don't).
So here are my guesstimations:
1) $1, 860. 00. Thats a low ball, it is more. I didn't add the. 25 cents per day.
2) a + b) I add these together under "hygiene". Minimum $500 a month.
C)$250. Oo a month. Includes new items and cleaning.
D) At first I thought maybe $50. 00, then I thought no $75. 00. So I settled on $60. 00. Does not include "toys".
E) $90. 00
F)Depends on provider and provider style. I pay a sum total of $63. 81 for various "web based tools" that I use. I don't wax or pay for my site.
That's $2, 823. 00. Add $200. 00 for monthly testing (yes I do). $3, 023. 00
Outcalls are $50. 00 extra but you could be costing me up to $400. 00 while I drive to you and back.
Extra money paying for someone to wash my car, clean my house once a week, extra to have the dog groomer/vet pick up my dogs since I can't, 1 day monthly car rental while mine is being serviced. All the time this "hobby" takes away from my personal life. No charge on those but again, just the hassle factor.
Hassle and other time, answering po-dunk phone calls & emails, trying to keep website current add 15 minutes of "crap time" for every hour appt.
That's $50. 00 in time for every hour.
At LEAST half an hour "prep" time for every appointment. I won't charge this negotiation the $150. 00 a half hour that I advertise; I'll just charge $100. 00.
So in all actuality I "profit" $50. 00 an hour. Let's do that math.
WOW! Suddenly that BIG number is $2, 200. 00 a month for 11 appointments a week.
Let's see. Two thousand profit take away three thousand investment.
Are these my actual numbers. No. They are the minimum.
Are these my actual investment costs? No. But they are close. Since I have regulars I know they don't want to see me in the same outfits, and we do like to try new things. And I am clean. Almost obsessively so, others may not be as obsessive. And yes, I could get a cheaper room. But I won't. These are all my choices and no one who sees me ever hears me say one word about what it has cost me (not just financially) to see them. And they never will.
For me, when someone asks for a deal, they are saying "You are not worth less than a buck a minute. " Oh yeah, I really want to see that person.
As I typed this, it occured to me that NONE of my "weeklies" have ever asked for a deal. These would be the 11. 12 I speak of.
Perhaps this not asking is part of what keeps me enthused about my work and genuinely happy to see them?
Perhaps this enthusiastic joyful response is what keeps my "weeklies" well. Weekly? Perhaps they think I am worth the rate I require?
Of course, I can always answer the "deal" question another way.
"Have a notarized letter sent to me from your employer stating that you happily agreed to work for 50% of your pay and benefits. "
So in the end, if you do find someone who will negotiate a price, I say jump on it.
Bb[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wyldhorses]
She also has alot of room to cut the expenses she is complaining about. Spending $92 a day for a room is pure insanity. She should either rent her a one bedroom apartment for business or do outcalls.[/QUOTE]
Lol, $1860 a month for a hotel room?? Thats a nice sized house in a nice neighborhood with some left over...
Babee,
Having seen you a couple times I want to say you are worth every penny you charge. You are a awesome lady and I thank you for the time I spent with you.
Have a last minute business stop in new orleans the end of this week. Check out LA forum and it looks like crap. Nobody posts anything over there. Had a few take out from strip joints a few years ago but it's a hit and miss thing with these girls. Anyone here been to NOLA and had a good, reliable provide, please pm me within the next few days. Thanks everyone.
Be safe
AC
I heard that the guy (David Gardner) died from a heart attack.
Does anyone have any feedback on this?
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