General Reports

[QUOTE=BankShot]They said they were with the Florida State Troopers and did I want to make a donation to their charity. At this point I am having all kinds of thoughts. I told them no and turned the phone off. I googled the number and it was just a bunch of scammers. I did freak out there for a minute thinking that they might be trying to get a location fix on the phone.

I bought the phone and minutes with cash. My name is not associated with it in any way. If I had not done that I would have really freaked out.[/QUOTE]


Trust me when I tell you that LE is not using Triangulation Technology to track down POTENTIAL customers on a prostitution misdemeanor arrest.
This triangulation is not as easy as it sounds and is not used on minor things EVER.

There seems to be a common paranoia surfacing about girls getting turned by LE etc.,etc.

When they do turn a girl it is to get info on drug dealers, not trap mongers.

Most LE are men and in many, many cases partake of the delights of the ladies themselves, so their time is not spent chasing mongers over the airwaves.

IF you get nailed there is a 95% chance it will be on the streets.

I say 95% because occasionally a local Sheriff or Police chief will set up a sting ( usually around election time) or if things seem to be getting a little too obvious in the area or he is told to by the local prosecutor because the prosecutor is getting political pressure from the local right wing powers that be. So there is always a small chance, BUT if you remember to be very cautious about what you say and what you agree to,
they can never get you!!!!----VS

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]You can have a lot of fun with these calls. They actually have little to do with LE other than using their name to try to pressure you to donate. I play along with their high pressure tactics and finally say -- no, I prefer to donate to organizations where people actually work for a living.

BTW, these calls come from systems that spit out the numbers sequentially. No need to worry that they were targeting you.[/QUOTE]LE gets about 5% of whatever they get from you. I fell for this at first, but smartened up real quickly. Like Exec Talent, I like to mess with them when they call.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]... occasionally a local Sheriff or Police chief will set up a sting ( usually around election time) or if things seem to be getting a little too obvious in the area [/QUOTE]

Appreciated your post, VS. What is your take on providers that use either their own home or have a rented unit that they use for incall? I have always felt better about providers who do short stays at a hotel; not enough traffic in that short time to create a hassle. A few of my favorites, though, use a fixed location and I wonder if the neighbors will eventually complain. Hate to be the guy there when they come to hassle her. Your thoughts?

[QUOTE=Vankleek]Appreciated your post, VS. What is your take on providers that use either their own home or have a rented unit that they use for incall? I have always felt better about providers who do short stays at a hotel; not enough traffic in that short time to create a hassle. A few of my favorites, though, use a fixed location and I wonder if the neighbors will eventually complain. Hate to be the guy there when they come to hassle her. Your thoughts?[/QUOTE]


I've dreamed of Gianna several times. She's a good provider and a tight little unit. Each time has been at her in-call home.

The first time I dreamed of her, I met her outside in her yard. The neighbors were outside as well. When they saw me meet her, they just rolled their eyes and looked away. Like, "here comes another one." It was more than a little uncomfortable.

The flip side is that a home is a lot more inviting than a hotel room. I like a bedroom for fun a lot more than a motel room. You also know there's no security guards or maids that might be onto the activity. You can feel a little more confident that LEO isn't operating a sting from a home. I guess there are two sides to everything.

[QUOTE=Vankleek]Appreciated your post, VS. What is your take on providers that use either their own home or have a rented unit that they use for incall? I have always felt better about providers who do short stays at a hotel; not enough traffic in that short time to create a hassle. A few of my favorites, though, use a fixed location and I wonder if the neighbors will eventually complain. Hate to be the guy there when they come to hassle her. Your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Where ever the provider is most comfortable is where you will get the best experience.

There really is not a big problem in either location. It depends on the girl, some love to work from home and some absolutely can't or wont.
Most girls who work from home have the neighbor situation under control, the neighbors usually are more concerned about drug activity and if they have this problem they usually report it to the police.

I used to see a very high end fox who had me pull right into her garage, she closed the door and nobody saw anything they could talk about.

If I don't know the girl I prefer the hotel, it's easy to scope out the perimeter before I commit and easy to check out the room for unwanted pests, if the room has a connecting door I always make sure it is secured.

If I get a bad feeling in a house I ask for permission to look around if there is any hesitation on their part, I simply say I'm leaving, this usually uncovers the problem if there is any. Most girls gladly allow you to look around. If I'm not comfortable I'm not going to have a good time and this game is too expensive to put up with any BS.

As far as stings go, I haven't heard about any stings targeting mongers except on the trail.

If you handle the phone correctly and when you get there you handle that correctly and say absolutely nothing indicating sex for money, you have not done anything that could get you arrested. If cops were to storm your room and question you and you shut up your fine. But this is not going to happen because even if the room is wired and you say nothing they have no"probable cause" to enter the room. And if your in the room with a "real provider" they need a warrant to enter unless the management requests that they assist in the eviction of the girl etc. They cannot break down the door or enter the room unless there is a reason, not a suspicion.

In one case with a girl I know they knocked on the door because the management was suspicious of (Drug) activity in the room. They knocked, the girl and the monger got dressed, she answered the door they started questioning the guy and told him if he left and didn't return they would not trespass him. (He left,probably with his pants wet) The hotel wanted her evicted, meanwhile the cops see her boyfriend loitering in the parking lot they get the girl to call him and he returns to the room he is in possession of Oxycodone. They call for a policewoman , she assists the girl in packing her possessions and observes a box of Hypodermic needles with her clothes and so she and her boyfriend went off to jail with the Alt.Springs.P.D. On drug and paraphernalia charges .
In any case you (as the monger) are fine as long as you do not get intimidated by LE and run off at the mouth.

Truth be known all guys who get arrested in this game, did it to themselves in one way or another.

I know some guy will disagree with that because "he heard" this story or that story but the truth is there has to be some evidence that a crime has been committed---no yak,yak,yak no crime,no crime no arrest.

It is not a crime to sleep with women as long as your not in public and you don't offer them money or anything of any real value.----VS

Does that make you are like a pimp?

Thanks in advance,

XX

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]Where ever the provider is most comfortable is where you will get the best experience.

There really is not a big problem in either location. It depends on the girl, some love to work from home and some absolutely can't or wont.
Most girls who work from home have the neighbor situation under control, the neighbors usually are more concerned about drug activity and if they have this problem they usually report it to the police.

I used to see a very high end fox who had me pull right into her garage, she closed the door and nobody saw anything they could talk about.

If I don't know the girl I prefer the hotel, it's easy to scope out the perimeter before I commit and easy to check out the room for unwanted pests, if the room has a connecting door I always make sure it is secured.

If I get a bad feeling in a house I ask for permission to look around if there is any hesitation on their part, I simply say I'm leaving, this usually uncovers the problem if there is any. Most girls gladly allow you to look around. If I'm not comfortable I'm not going to have a good time and this game is too expensive to put up with any BS.

As far as stings go, I haven't heard about any stings targeting mongers except on the trail.

If you handle the phone correctly and when you get there you handle that correctly and say absolutely nothing indicating sex for money, you have not done anything that could get you arrested. If cops were to storm your room and question you and you shut up your fine. But this is not going to happen because even if the room is wired and you say nothing they have no"probable cause" to enter the room. And if your in the room with a "real provider" they need a warrant to enter unless the management requests that they assist in the eviction of the girl etc. They cannot break down the door or enter the room unless there is a reason, not a suspicion.

In one case with a girl I know they knocked on the door because the management was suspicious of (Drug) activity in the room. They knocked, the girl and the monger got dressed, she answered the door they started questioning the guy and told him if he left and didn't return they would not trespass him. (He left,probably with his pants wet) The hotel wanted her evicted, meanwhile the cops see her boyfriend loitering in the parking lot they get the girl to call him and he returns to the room he is in possession of Oxycodone. They call for a policewoman , she assists the girl in packing her possessions and observes a box of Hypodermic needles with her clothes and so she and her boyfriend went off to jail with the Alt.Springs.P.D. On drug and paraphernalia charges .
In any case you (as the monger) are fine as long as you do not get intimidated by LE and run off at the mouth.

Truth be known all guys who get arrested in this game, did it to themselves in one way or another.

I know some guy will disagree with that because "he heard" this story or that story but the truth is there has to be some evidence that a crime has been committed---no yak,yak,yak no crime,no crime no arrest.

It is not a crime to sleep with women as long as your not in public and you don't offer them money or anything of any real value.----VS[/QUOTE]

What this report didn't say was that they got him off of Orlando craigslist. Orange County arresting someone in Marion County for soliciting. Follow the rules, plain and simple.




[url]http://www.wftv.com/marioncounty/24199676/detail.html[/url]

This means advertisements on BP or CL are very dangerous.

Unless you go to your known provider. However, known providers become boring and less fun.

That is why I never use BP or CL ad. I used to use when I was in other city. It did not work for me because the providers came with full of rules of bs.

Mongering obviously requires experiences and skill like other hobbies. That is what this forum about.

xx

[QUOTE=Haldol05]What this report didn't say was that they got him off of Orlando craigslist. Orange County arresting someone in Marion County for soliciting. Follow the rules, plain and simple.

[url]http://www.wftv.com/marioncounty/24199676/detail.html[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xiao Xing]Does that make you are like a pimp?

Thanks in advance,

XX[/QUOTE]

You are a "pimp" if you are male and derive your support (make your living) from the sexual activities of a prostitute.---VS

[QUOTE=Xiao Xing]This means advertisements on BP or CL are very dangerous.

Unless you go to your known provider. However, known providers become boring and less fun.

That is why I never use BP or CL ad. I used to use when I was in other city. It did not work for me because the providers came with full of rules of bs.

Mongering obviously requires experiences and skill like other hobbies. That is what this forum about.

xx[/QUOTE]
"What this report didn't say was that they got him off of Orlando craigslist. Orange County arresting someone in Marion County for soliciting. Follow the rules, plain and simple.'--HALDOL05

[url]http://www.wftv.com/marioncounty/24199676/detail.html[/url] [/quote]



I didn't get the sense that they got the "Pastor" who obviously is a dumb FLOCK or at least leads one, on C/L's Adult section, but rather got nailed by a trolling detective who probably posted an ad in one of the personal categories.

A lot of these posts want you to send your pic and some even want "package pics", a lot are Spam . Legit girls on here don't want nude pics etc, they are on there for their own reasons.

"Kenneth Kleckner is facing five counts of transmitting harmful material to a minor and one count of soliciting a minor for sex."--from WFTV

I've never had a girl in the adult categories want any pics or graphic exchanges--in fact just the opposite!!


My bet is he got sucked in by one of these detective ad's and when the detective wanted graphic pics ,he sent them--Bingo--straight to jail---VS

Hi VS,

Thanks for your enlightening. You have to do it for money purpose to become a pimp.

xx

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]You are a "pimp" if you are male and derive your support (make your living) from the sexual activities of a prostitute.---VS[/QUOTE]

My red head bbw, only has one rule, make her cum for 3 hours. Life is hell some times. But I endure.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]You are a "pimp" if you are male and derive your support (make your living) from the sexual activities of a prostitute.---VS[/QUOTE]


The literal definition of pimping, is why girls's drivers can get charged with pimping, which is a felony. The solicitation is only a misdeameanor for the girl. Something to think about. You're driving a girl and getting paid for it. You know exactly what you're doing; not like a taxi just taking a fare. Therefore, you're getting income off of an escort's earnings.

Also, renting out a room can get you charged with pimping. If you know what's going on, and why it's going on. They can get you with that charge, as well.

A few years back, they busted a motel owner on Hwy 50. LEO claimed he knew girls were working the streets. He went ahead and rented them rooms anyhow. Thereby, making money off of working girls, i.e, pimping. Those charges were dropped eventually.

It's much broader than the stereotype, "get out there and bring me back $200 before the night's over. If you dont, you'll be sorry, woman!"

[QUOTE=Vino 7373]The literal definition of pimping, is why girls's drivers can get charged with pimping, which is a felony. The solicitation is only a misdeameanor for the girl. Something to think about. You're driving a girl and getting paid for it. You know exactly what you're doing; not like a taxi just taking a fare. Therefore, you're getting income off of an escort's earnings.

Also, renting out a room can get you charged with pimping. If you know what's going on, and why it's going on. They can get you with that charge, as well.

A few years back, they busted a motel owner on Hwy 50. LEO claimed he knew girls were working the streets. He went ahead and rented them rooms anyhow. Thereby, making money off of working girls, i.e, pimping. Those charges were dropped eventually.

It's much broader than the stereotype, "get out there and bring me back $200 before the night's over. If you dont, you'll be sorry, woman!"[/QUOTE]

If you let a girl use your home to work from you can be charged with operating a house of ill repute LOL or entering for the purpose of prostitution or pandering or,or,or. The point is as you said the PD can charge you with a string of crap the test is when the prosecutor reviews the evidence and decides if formal charges will be entered, your not really charged until the prosecutor files the information. Until then you have just been arrested, many people say "the charges have been dropped" when what they really mean is they have not been filed IE. "NO Information" is the term.---VS

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]Where ever the provider is most comfortable is where you will get the best experience.

There really is not a big problem in either location. It depends on the girl, some love to work from home and some absolutely can't or won't.

Most girls who work from home have the neighbor situation under control, the neighbors usually are more concerned about drug activity and if they have this problem they usually report it to the police.

I used to see a very high end fox who had me pull right into her garage, she closed the door and nobody saw anything they could talk about.

If I don't know the girl I prefer the hotel, it's easy to scope out the perimeter before I commit and easy to check out the room for unwanted pests, if the room has a connecting door I always make sure it is secured.

If I get a bad feeling in a house I ask for permission to look around if there is any hesitation on their part, I simply say I'm leaving, this usually uncovers the problem if there is any. Most girls gladly allow you to look around. If I'm not comfortable I'm not going to have a good time and this game is too expensive to put up with any BS.

As far as stings go, I haven't heard about any stings targeting mongers except on the trail.

If you handle the phone correctly and when you get there you handle that correctly and say absolutely nothing indicating sex for money, you have not done anything that could get you arrested. If cops were to storm your room and question you and you shut up your fine. But this is not going to happen because even if the room is wired and you say nothing they have no"probable cause" to enter the room. And if your in the room with a "real provider" they need a warrant to enter unless the management requests that they assist in the eviction of the girl etc. They cannot break down the door or enter the room unless there is a reason, not a suspicion.

In one case with a girl I know they knocked on the door because the management was suspicious of (Drug) activity in the room. They knocked, the girl and the monger got dressed, she answered the door they started questioning the guy and told him if he left and didn't return they would not trespass him. (He left, probably with his pants wet) The hotel wanted her evicted, meanwhile the cops see her boyfriend loitering in the parking lot they get the girl to call him and he returns to the room he is in possession of Oxycodone. They call for a policewoman, she assists the girl in packing her possessions and observes a box of Hypodermic needles with her clothes and so she and her boyfriend went off to jail with the Alt. Springs. P. D. On drug and paraphernalia charges.

In any case you (as the monger) are fine as long as you do not get intimidated by LE and run off at the mouth.

Truth be known all guys who get arrested in this game, did it to themselves in one way or another.

I know some guy will disagree with that because "he heard" this story or that story but the truth is there has to be some evidence that a crime has been committed-no yak, yak, yak no crime, no crime no arrest.

It is not a crime to sleep with women as long as your not in public and you don't offer them money or anything of any real value..VS[/QUOTE] I can say this is all true and accurate. I was in a hotel w/ a woman with cops knocking on door. I answered the door and said can you give me and my friend a moment to dress. They said yes please do. We dressed allowed the cops in. They asked a few questions where did you meet? Have you met before? I simply said no to everything. Short sweet answer yes and no answers are all you need to provide (you don't even need to provide these but I believe silence is as bad as guilt). The cops asked us both to leave per management request and we simply went down the street together to another hotel and had a great night.