Massage Parlor Reports

Chuck, that's absolutely true. At New Life she asked me to take the used hat along with both the used and new wrappers. She was paranoid about the MS finding out. Another woman at Lux a while ago (large-ish Japanese woman who later turned up at M2) used Saran wrap for her CBJ. Clearly, did not want condoms around. That particular time I did not have condoms. I always have condoms and viagra with me (LOL) when I go out. Hidden in a sock in my gym bag. For me a condom is the kind of incriminating evidence that would render me single pretty quickly. Bob.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2957671]It is interesting how every place does things differently. Tonight I was at an AMP and I got a CBJ using a cover that I had brought. When I was leaving the woman gave it to me all wrapped in paper towels and told me to take it and get rid of it because she didn't want a used hat on the premises. This is just a total observation and I am going out on a limb here, but it is an observation that I have made. Back in 2015 when the place in Switzerland got busted it stated in the police report that officers confiscated several bags of evidence. I had no clue what in the hell that meant. Shortly after that bust I noticed that the girls at the other local AMP's changed procedure a bit. After you popped they would clean you up with kleenex tissue and then you would hear them cruise down the hall and quickly flush the jizz soaked kleenex. Then she would come back with a hot towel to clean off the oil and whatever else was left. I think that the girls in Switzerland had been throwing all of that kleenex into the garbage can's in the room and when they got busted Uncle LEO decided to take the trash as evidence. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2957611]Athlete's foot is a skin fungus wouldn't show up that quickly. It typically takes at least several days to fester in order to grow and show symptoms. If fact its already contagious before it starts itching. In no way shape or form would EVER show up in a few hours from initial contact.[/QUOTE]Had to be the place. That was over 10 years ago when I was finishing graduate school and I had been there the week before as well. I had no time for dating anyone and the girl offered me a small break on the price for FS as a very regular customer. I specifically remember I had been there the week before because I had just bought a new Harley on Friday and rode it out there on Sunday and was pissed that I couldn't ride it out there the following week because of rain so took the car. Back then I was not working out at any gym because I had no time and my apartment was spotless so I didn't catch it in those places. Had to be the place.

I never wear the grungy bathrobe. I did wear flip flops once. LOL.

[QUOTE=BenBeck;2957352]You would think so.

Let's put an end to this. Thanks for doing your part.

Next up: the creepy feeling you get from wet flip-flops and bathrobe that lets you know there was another monger skeeting all over your ATF just minutes before you.

No, it's not that she's wet and ready for you because you turn her on, nor is it that she just happens to be gifted with a constant state of tropical readiness in her nether regions; it's from her last session.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2957842]I never wear the grungy bathrobe. I did wear flip flops once. LOL.[/QUOTE]Imagine if they sprayed one of those rooms with Luminol™. It would light up like a pinball machine. Brighter than Tokyo at midnight.

BB.

Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2957959]Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I don't think it is unavoidable. Not advertising on the usual sites will deter mongers, but mongers will always be mongers and feel any place out for extras. Finding an obviously legit place that might give extras is like "The Holy Grail" of mongering. Your friend will, unfortunately, just have to deal with the occasional pervert. And if she's Asian, then she's definitely going to get hit up for extras. Just sayin.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2957959]Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.[/QUOTE]I have seen massage parlors, (including Yus) put offers on groupon. That should give mongers an idea its a legit place. Rocket Dork.

Get good MT's that are certified and can do a good massage. I have used the thumbtack site for legit massages and got a response from an AMP.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2957959]Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.[/QUOTE]

Hey Bob,

Not sure if this is the case, but I would make sure that all advertising referred to LMT / professional / licensed status and that all licenses were displayed near the front desk / entrance of the shop. I would also make sure the receptionist really tries to sell massage as being a solution to a problem.

Aside from that, there are basically 3 types of massage shops. 1, the ones that provide the extras and look for the guys that want that service. 2, the ones that are legit but also see that they will make more money with attractive / fit / well-dressed LMTs and get that business that is borderline where guys might think they get extras but aren't quite too upset when it doesn't happen. And 3, 100% legit where licensed LMTs work to treat actual problems and are run more like wellness clinics than shops.

I knew a Polish girl that was working at #2 and was so fed up with the ridiculous demands to wear sexier clothing that she went to work for a chiro. It is a fine line, being attractive enough to draw in that bigger crowd and being just another Massage Envy.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2957959]Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RocketDork;2958047]I have seen massage parlors, (including Yus) put offers on groupon. That should give mongers an idea its a legit place. Rocket Dork.[/QUOTE]I think the suggestions so far can help, but there may be no full solution.

We all, at one time, may have gazed at the sign "No Any Special Service" with a secret, ironic chuckle while getting a rimming, discounted with a Groupon, from a provider who just shed her MT polo-shirt-and-sweatpants legit uniform.

I think all of those things can reduce the harassment by lowering expectations, and that most guys who's mom raised them right will get the signals and behave:

- consider where and how you advertise.

- dress code for the MTs.

- certificates, other licenses displayed in plain view.

Unfortunately, however, it seems that pure racism and ignorance play a role here when guys don't respect individuals because they are Asian. Assuming they are offering extras and getting indignant when they are shut down.

One "legit" shop I like a lot even has an explanation posted stating that they don't offer "Asian services" and are not a "happy ending parlor", and 90% are Asian providers and they are Asian-owned. It's just an unfortunate fact of life in America.

My $. 02.

Best to you and your friend, Bob. Happy to respectfully patronize to the shop for a legit massage. Please let us know the details when it's open.

BB.

Great suggestions. Thank you all. I'll certainly let you know when it's open, assuming we can get a business license and a lease. Bob.

[QUOTE=BenBeck;2958133]I think the suggestions so far can help, but there may be no full solution.

We all, at one time, may have gazed at the sign "No Any Special Service" with a secret, ironic chuckle while getting a rimming, discounted with a Groupon, from a provider who just shed her MT polo-shirt-and-sweatpants legit uniform.

I think all of those things can reduce the harassment by lowering expectations, and that most guys who's mom raised them right will get the signals and behave:

- consider where and how you advertise.

- dress code for the MTs.

- certificates, other licenses displayed in plain view.

Unfortunately, however, it seems that pure racism and ignorance play a role here when guys don't respect individuals because they are Asian. Assuming they are offering extras and getting indignant when they are shut down.

One "legit" shop I like a lot even has an explanation posted stating that they don't offer "Asian services" and are not a "happy ending parlor", and 90% are Asian providers and they are Asian-owned. It's just an unfortunate fact of life in America.

My $. 02.

Best to you and your friend, Bob. Happy to respectfully patronize to the shop for a legit massage. Please let us know the details when it's open.

BB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;2957959]Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.[/QUOTE]I would make it a point to have some male MTs working in addition to what others have said. It's kind of like having some backup to just the women in the shop (safer?) and it automatically makes me think a place is more legit in that I feel like men and women are served here.

Also, maybe some yelp reviews from women wouldn't hurt. I think of Pain Stop as one of the great legit Asian massages in Chicago where I've never thought of it as anything, but legit.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2957959]Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.[/QUOTE]What about asking for the tip as part of the door fee? And maybe advertise no tip necessary but appreciated? Call it a "Certified Massage Therapist Tip" or something. As a monger, I might be pissed off and not come back or maybe won't even patronize the place in the first place (which is probably better for you anyways), since you don't want that kind of customer.

Don't have lockable doors, just curtains. Have open ceilings. Have fragile massage tables that can't bear the weight of having sex.

[QUOTE=ChockWow;2958275]I would make it a point to have some male MTs working in addition to what others have said. It's kind of like having some backup to just the women in the shop (safer?) and it automatically makes me think a place is more legit in that I feel like men and women are served here.

Also, maybe some yelp reviews from women wouldn't hurt. I think of Pain Stop as one of the great legit Asian massages in Chicago where I've never thought of it as anything, but legit.[/QUOTE]Agree to your points. Especially for the yelp reviews. A lot of people look at those, and decide if they are even going to check a place out. BTW alot of ME places are so full that you have to call ahead the week before, to get in, even with a membership. Get the reviews, maybe a special for the NEXT time you visit, after you do the review. Give a referral discount for the same thing. Or use a punch card, buy 10, get 1 free or discount on the 11th.

[QUOTE=RocketDork;2958047]I have seen massage parlors, (including Yus) put offers on groupon. That should give mongers an idea its a legit place. Rocket Dork.[/QUOTE]GroupOn should sponsor a gang bang.