Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

We've been getting a lot of requests for whether an ad is real. It's not always possible to know, but it's fairly easy to spot some of them.

1) If they ask for a deposit, almost certainly a scam.

2) If they advertise bareback or BBFS, generally a scam. Plenty do it, but they don't put it in ads, unless they're advertising an upcharge for it.

3) Anything with "dear" or "dears. " Not only scam, probably overseas scam.

4) Professional looking photos. Generally lifted from a porn star. Not many porn stars come through -- though it is a rare treat.

5) The rulesy ads are more likely to be real. They may be a pain, and you may want to avoid them anyway, but scammers aren't going to bother casting a narrower net by saying they aren't GFE or don't do BBBJ.

In general, you can just kinda tell, without asking here.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6307704]We've been getting a lot of requests for whether an ad is real. It's not always possible to know, but it's fairly easy to spot some of them.

1) If they ask for a deposit, almost certainly a scam.

2) If they advertise bareback or BBFS, generally a scam. Plenty do it, but they don't put it in ads, unless they're advertising an upcharge for it.

3) Anything with "dear" or "dears. " Not only scam, probably overseas scam.

4) Professional looking photos. Generally lifted from a porn star. Not many porn stars come through -- though it is a rare treat.

5) The rulesy ads are more likely to be real. They may be a pain, and you may want to avoid them anyway, but scammers aren't going to bother casting a narrower net by saying they aren't GFE or don't do BBBJ.

In general, you can just kinda tell, without asking here.[/QUOTE]Start browsing other cities ads and it starts to become more obvious which ones are fake also. You'll see some of the same spam in multiple cities but you'll also start to notice the ad copy just seems off.

Ask yourself is this something a 25 yr old, 30 yr old would actually say? Most ads are written in a way you can imagine the person posing speaking. If they look like a white girl who is hood, they write like a white girl who sounds hood. There are exceptions, and some ads are hilarious written full of emojis that are actually providers, but for the most part it becomes very easy to spot.

Look at small cities and areas like bowling green ky with a much smaller population (which should mean less providers by a larger percentage) and it becomes much much more obvious that a 10/10 or 9/10 isn't just hanging out in bowling green waiting for some red neck to come plow her for $80 qv's.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6286704]Hey, I know this is a nerdy question, but here it is. I want to take Thalia out on a "date. " Like maybe a nice lunch with a couple drinks. I'm also scared of getting caught as I feel like I generally know too many people. So I'm looking for spot recs. Anyone have an idea for a lunch spot, nice but not too busy, located not too far away but certainly not in any kind of hot spot zone for people out and about in the afternoon?

Maybe PM me if you don't mind. I am trying to be super secretive after all![/QUOTE]If that's what you want to do you have to be comfortable enough to enjoy it, enjoy the stares, the questionable glances, and the company. Otherwise it's just going to be uncomfortable, embarrassing and weird.

I'm a white guy who has pretty exclusively dated black women for 15 years across half the country. Things are getting better now, but imagine 15 years ago a woman asked my mother if she was ok with us being together and asking if it was serious. When she said she wasn't sure but we lived together she told me the woman turned bright red. This was at an open house and we were in the next room.

You just have to own it.

This same concept translates into sugar dating or taking an escort out on a date. People are going to watch, and more than anything it will be a curiosity. They're going to be paying attention more to the chemistry you share (or don't share) than age or differences in perceived differences in attractiveness.

Even if she seems out of your league but she is comfortable with you and it's obvious she is, people are going to wonder just how big your dick and wallet are to keep her happy (or whatever the fuck they think).

I see a girl at home who takes really good care of me. I don't get there often but if I'm a little short on cash she doesn't care (discount not free) she comes and picks me up, we have fun, and then we usually go out to eat. Just ask her where she wants to go. It doesn't have to be fancy. She picked fucking Applebees last time and that's where we went.

It helps we don't see each other often to confuse the vibe. The first time we went out her brother showed up to Dennys while we were eating to pick up a door dash order LOL.

Man you only live once and fuck what every one else thinks about what you are enjoying yourself doing. With the caveat that it's not harming or hurting anyone else. Go enjoy a meal anywhere you want to and if you run into someone introduce her as a friend.

[QUOTE=Faceless02;6307786]If that's what you want to do you have to be comfortable enough to enjoy it, enjoy the stares, the questionable glances, and the company. Otherwise it's just going to be uncomfortable, embarrassing and weird.

I'm a white guy who has pretty exclusively dated black women for 15 years across half the country. Things are getting better now, but imagine 15 years ago a woman asked my mother if she was ok with us being together and asking if it was serious. When she said she wasn't sure but we lived together she told me the woman turned bright red. This was at an open house and we were in the next room.

You just have to own it.

This same concept translates into sugar dating or taking an escort out on a date. People are going to watch, and more than anything it will be a curiosity. They're going to be paying attention more to the chemistry you share (or don't share) than age or differences in perceived differences in attractiveness.

Even if she seems out of your league but she is comfortable with you and it's obvious she is, people are going to wonder just how big your dick and wallet are to keep her happy (or whatever the fuck they think).

I see a girl at home who takes really good care of me. I don't get there often but if I'm a little short on cash she doesn't care (discount not free) she comes and picks me up, we have fun, and then we usually go out to eat. Just ask her where she wants to go. It doesn't have to be fancy. She picked fucking Applebees last time and that's where we went.

It helps we don't see each other often to confuse the vibe. The first time we went out her brother showed up to Dennys while we were eating to pick up a door dash order LOL.

Man you only live once and fuck what every one else thinks about what you are enjoying yourself doing. With the caveat that it's not harming or hurting anyone else. Go enjoy a meal anywhere you want to and if you run into someone introduce her as a friend.[/QUOTE]Ha! Thanks for the kind words!

I'm not really worried about what strangers think. I'm worried about what people I know think! I do believe I came up with a good "excuse," so to speak, so we'll see!

All of them.

If they aren't ghetto, they're ragged white trash, if they're not addicts with open sores or track marks clearly visible, they're fat hippos with all the attributes. Then comes the Incall / Outcalls dance. I'm not paying you extra for Outcall. You didn't have to get a room and the chances for a sting are lower I believe or getting arrested. I'm not counting ebony because I don't even fuck around in that mess (0 attraction).

All my searches have turned up just a metric fuck ton of scammers or skags. Tryst / Eros have also become fucking unbelievable because of the prices and menu limitations and bam! There's some of the trash that blew over from the other dumps like Babylon and Alligator and not limited to Sumo, STG to what I thought was a better site.

The only decent place or reprieve I can find is to get a massage and HE from one the Asian joints. I know it's cultural culinary but for the love of whatever god can they please stop using so much fucking garlic and spices. Jesus. I like it, but it takes me 20 minutes to get over the smell right when I walk in. I'm going to go buy them some fucking febreze wall flowers or Bath and Body works.

Full stop.

Hi been playing the game for a while and its like the Northeast of Cincinnati has fallen off the map for 99% of the good ones that used to be on Escort Babylon and Escort Monkey. If you find any link them here. Thanks.

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;6309075]All of them.

If they aren't ghetto, they're ragged white trash, if they're not addicts with open sores or track marks clearly visible, they're fat hippos with all the attributes. Then comes the Incall / Outcalls dance. I'm not paying you extra for Outcall. You didn't have to get a room and the chances for a sting are lower I believe or getting arrested. I'm not counting ebony because I don't even fuck around in that mess (0 attraction).

All my searches have turned up just a metric fuck ton of scammers or skags. Tryst / Eros have also become fucking unbelievable because of the prices and menu limitations and bam! There's some of the trash that blew over from the other dumps like Babylon and Alligator and not limited to Sumo, STG to what I thought was a better site.

The only decent place or reprieve I can find is to get a massage and HE from one the Asian joints. I know it's cultural culinary but for the love of whatever god can they please stop using so much fucking garlic and spices. Jesus. I like it, but it takes me 20 minutes to get over the smell right when I walk in. I'm going to go buy them some fucking febreze wall flowers or Bath and Body works.

Full stop.[/QUOTE]So tell us what you REALLY think, Smokey!

Hope my lessons learned for an outcall on adult search website and contacting on (escort babylon as well cash was not in the ad for local as well as out of state area codes).

99.99% are a scam they will try with either a sympathetic story or that " they are trustworthy" don't buy it My scam was both. I'm outing the sites because YMMV.

Heed from my lessons learned.

I think some of you guys are just a little off the deep end on going to Sharonville. I've seen multiple girls there over multiple years with no problems.

There is risk at any of the low-end hotels but if you manage the risk appropriately, you'll be fine.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;6316073]I think some of you guys are just a little off the deep end on going to Sharonville. I've seen multiple girls there over multiple years with no problems.

There is risk at any of the low-end hotels but if you manage the risk appropriately, you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]The hotels m=near the convention center have hotel security. They will turn their light on if they don't recognize the plate or you're sitting in the car for longer than 5 mim.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;6316073]I think some of you guys are just a little off the deep end on going to Sharonville. I've seen multiple girls there over multiple years with no problems.

There is risk at any of the low-end hotels but if you manage the risk appropriately, you'll be fine.[/QUOTE]I agree but when there are one post rookies suggesting they are thinking of going there, and Taking One For The Team, it merits a strong warning. Just read the posts by Bedtime Story about his experience. Start around 3-22 on his posting list. This will help you appreciate how bad it can get. So, Yes, an experienced monger can go anywhere and take smart precautions and usually (but not always) be safe. The same cannot be said for people with less than a couple of years experience.

BAM.

A couple of new posts promoting visits to sharonville and Blue Ash. Going there is like picking up a street walker and barebacking her in the booty. It's a poking hope that you don't walk away with something after the experience that you don't want. Your choice to be as stupid as you want to be or be careful and just don't do it.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;6307704]We've been getting a lot of requests for whether an ad is real. It's not always possible to know, but it's fairly easy to spot some of them.

1) If they ask for a deposit, almost certainly a scam.

2) If they advertise bareback or BBFS, generally a scam. Plenty do it, but they don't put it in ads, unless they're advertising an upcharge for it.

3) Anything with "dear" or "dears. " Not only scam, probably overseas scam.

4) Professional looking photos. Generally lifted from a porn star. Not many porn stars come through -- though it is a rare treat.

5) The rulesy ads are more likely to be real. They may be a pain, and you may want to avoid them anyway, but scammers aren't going to bother casting a narrower net by saying they aren't GFE or don't do BBBJ.

In general, you can just kinda tell, without asking here.[/QUOTE]6) If you find yourself reading the ad in a Russian accent a 3rd of the way down it's a scam!

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;6316416]A couple of new posts promoting visits to sharonville and Blue Ash. Going there is like picking up a street walker and barebacking her in the booty. It's a poking hope that you don't walk away with something after the experience that you don't want. Your choice to be as stupid as you want to be or be careful and just don't do it.[/QUOTE]I've had some visits with higher end providers in Blue Ash, but at the nicer hotels. Never an issue.

D.

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;6316887]6) If you find yourself reading the ad in a Russian accent a 3rd of the way down it's a scam![/QUOTE]Also, any ad with some lame story about a married woman or similar. This is something no real provider gets into, though a few are married.