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[QUOTE=JerichoRedeem;2826753]Anyone know anything about this girl? Seems to check out googled but like to make sure before visit if possible.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/saisha-se-habla-espaol/18857561[/URL][/QUOTE]I have seen her she does upsale and is expensive but she is good but if you are going to payup for what you want see a good escort.
[QUOTE=Grube;2827623]Anyone seen lexi over at royal lately? I saw her about a year ago and I've heard rumors of weight gainetc. Not so much a fan of the bigger ladies. Last I saw her she gave a great massage and had a somewhat open menu.[/QUOTE]I am mostly an observer here and Obsorb all the input. Less risk for me. I thank you all. I saw Lexi and if she has gained gained any weight it has smoothed her out. She feels great and up top is a playground for 2. If I can make an appointment at Royal earlier in the day and I enjoy seeing Amber. She is all her ad says and more. She will even save you a trip to the Dr. And check for cancer causing you to explode. I couldn't believe the first time. I guess I enjoy Greek. Wow! I must say though. I caught the two girls "Lexi and Amber" together for 4 hand mid day and it was dynamite. Next time I'll try to get them closer to each other. The hour goes by so fast.
[QUOTE=JackRabbit2;2828874] If I can make an appointment at Royal earlier in the day and I enjoy seeing Amber. She is all her ad says and more. She will even save you a trip to the Dr. And check for cancer causing you to explode. I couldn't believe the first time. I guess I enjoy Greek. Wow! [/QUOTE]And what are you paying Amber for the "cancer test"? 40 hhr, 60 hr plus what tip?
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2828930]And what are you paying Amber for the "cancer test"? 40 hhr, 60 hr plus what tip?[/QUOTE]I leave $ on her fireplace and grab her Altoids on the way out. She has so much damn class. I passed on the bottle of water. Dirty talking sexy smile. Arch. I always said I wouldn't pass her name. Its hard for me to see her. She is busy. Off I had more without missing my own car payment I would see her more often. Hope that helps. Call ahead for time. Let her know if she can text back. She may cancel due to migraines. Give her leway. Its real and worth it for truely real conversation and real expressions. GFE. But real RULES.
I tried to make an appointment with Summer at East West and she is no longer there. That girl is so sexy but she sure does come and go often. Rumor has it that she is engaged. At least for now. Aliese is also gone from Panacea as she got a decent legit job. Any new sexy, petite finds at the parlors?
[QUOTE=JackRabbit2;2828874]She will even save you a trip to the Dr.[/QUOTE]1. ha! At a recent physical I was informed that the exam referenced above is rarely conducted anymore as it never detected anything and "some people avoided seeing their doctor because it. " I'm thinking now some people will avoid seeing their doctors without it.
2. Good experiences at the massage place on Breton just south of 28th street in the center of a right-angled strip mall, between a nail salon and exercise place. Three times with "Emily," once with "Lucy. " They're not exactly lookers, but pleasant enough and very agreeable personalities and provide the kind of massages I enjoy, especially when some teasing is followed with a touch of the boys, an inquisitive look and a simple, "this?" No mention of a tip. Massage is $60, I've handed over $40 or $50 on the way out. No objections from either when roaming beneath shirt; I haven't gotten around to exploring anything more. I'm happy to lie back and enjoy their excellent technique.
[QUOTE=JackRabbit2;2829044]I leave $ on her fireplace [/QUOTE]100 tip!? 60 hr + 100 tip = 160 WoW! Hope that included a BBBJ and / or FS. 160 hr is Hooker Money not MP Lady Money. Amber used to do prostate HJ on the flip for 40 tip. 100 total for the hour!
NJ.
This one looked inviting yesterday, when I called her she sounded inviting too. One of her ads said nude massage.
Directions lead me to a private apartment south of 44 off Kalamazoo. Nice neighborhood ok incall.
No massage table availble, Bed was made with what appeared to be a clean cover.
Biker type, rough around the edges and maybe the middle too. Not my type. Bigger girl, not a BBW.
The pic is not her ass, if it looked like the pic on BP I might have stayed.
So I kinda toftt, I didn't go any further than the hallway. Saved my $70 and hopefully giving you a heads up before you call.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/enjoy-my-soft-touches/21770525[/URL]
[QUOTE=Benz1;2829651]So I kinda toftt, I didn't go any further than the hallway. Saved my $70 and hopefully giving you a heads up before you call.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/enjoy-my-soft-touches/21770525[/URL][/QUOTE]This is how it's done boys. The Customer and the Cash are Always KING! Benz bailed before any money was wasted. A lot of guys would give into the Nagging coming from the Little Head and stay anyway and be bummed afterwards. Just like a lot of guys have OVER TIPPED at the GR MPs recently, which drives up the price for the rest of us.
Thanks for the refresher course Benz.
NJ.
[QUOTE=JackRabbit2;2829044]I leave $ on her fireplace and grab her Altoids on the way out. She has so much damn class. I passed on the bottle of water. Dirty talking sexy smile. Arch. I always said I wouldn't pass her name. Its hard for me to see her. She is busy. Off I had more without missing my own car payment I would see her more often. Hope that helps. Call ahead for time. Let her know if she can text back. She may cancel due to migraines. Give her leway. Its real and worth it for truely real conversation and real expressions. GFE. But real RULES.[/QUOTE]So 160?
Plenty of escort FS / BBBJ for 160.
Guys like you are adding to GPS issues at the parlors.
Please stop over tipping!
A HJ is not worth $100 + door fee!
Why not call me a Gentleman, Generous or Respectful. It costs 60 to get in the door. A MP does not get that. Only a portion. For a straight massage you should leave behind 15 automatically. Anywhere you go. Even if she is ugly and over weight. Then ad to that a conversation that is English, knowledgeable and of interest to you. Add 15. Add to that a clean room and place to lay your rude self. Talking FS, for under $ I would not touch. Not if I had on a trench coat. An umbrella is good for someone with trust and at least $. GPS?? No Way.
She did not ask for anything. Never does. She has rules and expects you to follow them. No FS and No BS. Includes Bullshit. Yes, she still tells me. And I abide. I don't want her to not see me. I don't understand how you would see an E or MP and think 0 nly one $ would get you through the door and past the cotton shield unless she was waiting for you to leave so that she could score a fix and shoot up. One of your type flat lined last year. Yes that will happen anyway but the point is your cheap.
You should keep the price up so the girls have self respect and get less work. Cleaner for all. And less busy. It's hard enough to see Amber as is. The other girls told me she quit because she is taking all the clients. GPS or just plain good. All around. Half the time I just want to talk and hold her. At least she listens and smells good. I would take her on my team for trivial pursuit any day.
Don't be an ass. As often as you post, if you don't have $$ stay home.
[QUOTE=Monger01;2830043]So 160?
Plenty of escort FS / BBBJ for 160.
Guys like you are adding to GPS issues at the parlors.
Please stop over tipping!
A HJ is not worth $100 + door fee![/QUOTE]I agree! Only was I'm giving up 100 tip is for BBBJCIM.
I hear tell that over tipping is now called being respectful or being a "gentleman". AND any Monger that wants to negotiate / give a fair tip for the services rendered is Cheap! AND tipping just because the room is clean is cool because we shouldn't expect the 60 we pay upfront for the hour to include a clean room! AND any MP Lady that is happy with someone not over tipping is "obviously" dirty and / or on Candy!
I'm thinking of using this logic the next time my car needs to be fixed. Say the final bill is 300, but the shop is really clean and I want that mechanic to know I'm a Gentleman with Respect, so I'll pay him 400. Can't wait to go grocery shopping and find how clean the store is, so that cashier and store manager know what a Gentleman I am!
NJ.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2831368]I hear tell that over tipping is now called being respectful or being a "gentleman". AND any Monger that wants to negotiate / give a fair tip for the services rendered is Cheap! AND tipping just because the room is clean is cool because we shouldn't expect the 60 we pay upfront for the hour to include a clean room! AND any MP Lady that is happy with someone not over tipping is "obviously" dirty and / or on Candy!
I'm thinking of using this logic the next time my car needs to be fixed. Say the final bill is 300, but the shop is really clean and I want that mechanic to know I'm a Gentleman with Respect, so I'll pay him 400. Can't wait to go grocery shopping and find how clean the store is, so that cashier and store manager know what a Gentleman I am!
NJ.[/QUOTE]
I think we are replying to Amber here and not a monger.
Wording of the last reply and over use of "gentleman" is the clue.
Only see that word in BP ads. Not in 100's of USAG posts do I find that word.
Convo over for me.
Hello GR mongers! Detroit area guy here thinking about heading out your way because of all of the non AMP options. Which ones are the best to visit and which ones have open menus. If you don't have comfortable posting here, please PM!
[QUOTE=JackRabbit2;2830825]It costs 60 to get in the door. A MP does not get that. Only a portion. For a straight massage you should leave behind 15 automatically. Anywhere you go. Even if she is ugly and over weight. Then ad to that a conversation that is English, knowledgeable and of interest to you. Add 15. [/QUOTE]A MP gets 60. Sure the gal will only get a cut of that, as expected. It's not a $60/ hr job. Do you tip a waitress because the table is clean? There are some things to be expected. You're generous. But you're not more a gentleman to tip 50% to a waitress for adequate / par service than a guy tipping 28%. Just more generous. The argument is about Good, Fair Market Price vs Excessive Market Price. When too many guys pay excessive market price, GPS develops.
You do not make a good case for justifying why it should be Deservingly that high.
[QUOTE=JackRabbit2;2830825]You should keep the price up so the girls have self respect and get less work. Cleaner for all. And less busy.[/QUOTE]That I see logic in. But $60 for a massage + $40-$50 for a HJ depending on her looks, massage skill, and usage of time is a good, fair market price. You're acting like it is bare bones that any guy off the street is willing to pay, as if it's a steal. It's not. That is keeping the price up to not let any riff raff come waltzing in all the time.
[QUOTE=JackRabbit2;2830825]Don't be an ass. As often as you post, if you don't have $$ stay home.[/QUOTE]But by your logic, if you can't pay $500 for a massage and a HJ at the end, even if she's ugly & overweight as you put it, then you should stay home if you don't have the $$. Obviously that would be ridiculous to say. So really, the argument is just about what is a good, fair market price as the baseline and to keep the riff raff away. $100 out the door for 50 minutes keeps it high for just a massage and a wack-a-doo at the end.
[QUOTE=DirtyOne313;2831515]Hello GR mongers! Detroit area guy here thinking about heading out your way because of all of the non AMP options. Which ones are the best to visit and which ones have open menus. If you don't have comfortable posting here, please PM![/QUOTE]Stop at the Hawaii Health Spa in Charlotte, on Lansing Rd off from I-69 on your way to GR. Table shower, sauna, full open menu. Then stop at LA Spa, Portland exit off from 96 W. Koreans with open menu. No table shower or sauna. Once in GR there are No true AMPs with open menus.
Enjoy your drive.
NJ.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2831722]Stop at the Hawaii Health Spa in Charlotte, on Lansing Rd off from I-69 on your way to GR. Table shower, sauna, full open menu. Then stop at LA Spa, Portland exit off from 96 W. Koreans with open menu. No table shower or sauna. Once in GR there are No true AMPs with open menus.
Enjoy your drive.
NJ.[/QUOTE]He overlooked Nicole or Nikki. She doesn't do it for me. Way too big. But she will FS and BBBJ. She's usually at Mama Dees (Holland), or East West.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/nicoleblack-hair-grey-eyes/23676642[/URL]
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/playmate-of-the-yr-sexxii-nikka/23666402[/URL]
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2831722]Stop at the Hawaii Health Spa in Charlotte, on Lansing Rd off from I-69 on your way to GR. Table shower, sauna, full open menu. Then stop at LA Spa, Portland exit off from 96 W. Koreans with open menu. No table shower or sauna. Once in GR there are No true AMPs with open menus.
Enjoy your drive.
NJ.[/QUOTE]I thought LA was shut down?
[QUOTE=Benz1;2829651]This one looked inviting yesterday, when I called her she sounded inviting too. One of her ads said nude massage.
Directions lead me to a private apartment south of 44 off Kalamazoo. Nice neighborhood ok incall.
No massage table availble, Bed was made with what appeared to be a clean cover.
Biker type, rough around the edges and maybe the middle too. Not my type. Bigger girl, not a BBW.
The pic is not her ass, if it looked like the pic on BP I might have stayed.
So I kinda toftt, I didn't go any further than the hallway. Saved my $70 and hopefully giving you a heads up before you call.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/enjoy-my-soft-touches/21770525[/URL][/QUOTE]I've suspected that this is Lenna, who was at Momma Dees in Holland, then went on her own to a house in GR near the Zoo. If it is, there were numerous reports of her being a total rip off; tremendous upsell, then took their money, no ms, no he, nothing. Also advertises as Snow. Saw her once at Momma Ds; older blonde (probably a looker in her youth), rushed, but I made her go thru the motions with a MS and a HE.
[QUOTE=Bloozer;2831801]He overlooked Nicole or Nikki. She doesn't do it for me. Way too big. But she will FS and BBBJ. She's usually at Mama Dees (Holland), or East West.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/nicoleblack-hair-grey-eyes/23676642[/URL]
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/playmate-of-the-yr-sexxii-nikka/23666402[/URL][/QUOTE]I overlooked her because she's not Asian. He seemed to be looking for AMPs. Plus Nikki is Fugly and into some type of Candy.
[QUOTE=Monger01;2831912]I thought LA was shut down?[/QUOTE]It was open in Oct / Nov when I last went. They get raided and shut down about every 2 years and always reopen. They are super paranoid on your first visit because of the history, but sweet as pie after the know you are cool.
[QUOTE=Charlie441;2831640]A MP gets 60. Sure the gal will only get a cut of that, as expected. It's not a $60/ hr job. [/QUOTE]As far as I understand these joints, the girl gets nothing from the time fee. That goes 100% to the house. The girls work solely for tips. That's based on the conversations I have at places I frequent, and the girls usually know me pretty well, and are generally open about their job, life and such.
In any case, my tip standard is same as the time charge. That's mostly $40 half hour, $40 tip. And for that, I expect a standard rub and tug experience, with a fun, fit, young woman who gets naked or nearly so and welcomes roaming throughout the session. If I really enjoy a girl or session, I will sometimes throw in another $20.
At that level of tipping, even the busy girls are not making $60 an hour, because there is down time between every session, and even the most requested girls can sit idle for half the time they are at the parlor. After you break it all down, it is easy money, but not really big money these girls are making.
I would be interested to hear, though, if my tipping level is about standard, or am I contributing to GPS. Please post or PM.
[QUOTE=Tom70;2832270]As far as I understand these joints, the girl gets nothing from the time fee. That goes 100% to the house. The girls work solely for tips. That's based on the conversations I have at places I frequent, and the girls usually know me pretty well, and are generally open about their job, life and such.
In any case, my tip standard is same as the time charge. That's mostly $40 half hour, $40 tip. And for that, I expect a standard rub and tug experience, with a fun, fit, young woman who gets naked or nearly so and welcomes roaming throughout the session. If I really enjoy a girl or session, I will sometimes throw in another $20.
At that level of tipping, even the busy girls are not making $60 an hour, because there is down time between every session, and even the most requested girls can sit idle for half the time they are at the parlor. After you break it all down, it is easy money, but not really big money these girls are making.
I would be interested to hear, though, if my tipping level is about standard, or am I contributing to GPS. Please post or PM.[/QUOTE]Your tip level is exactly what I do. I drop to 20 if its half-assed massage or HE.
I'll go to 80 only for BBBJ or FS but that's a very rare menu item so seldom happens.
[QUOTE=Tom70;2832270]As far as I understand these joints, the girl gets nothing from the time fee. That goes 100% to the house. The girls work solely for tips. That's based on the conversations I have at places I frequent, and the girls usually know me pretty well, and are generally open about their job, life and such.
In any case, my tip standard is same as the time charge. That's mostly $40 half hour, $40 tip. And for that, I expect a standard rub and tug experience, with a fun, fit, young woman who gets naked or nearly so and welcomes roaming throughout the session. If I really enjoy a girl or session, I will sometimes throw in another $20.
At that level of tipping, even the busy girls are not making $60 an hour, because there is down time between every session, and even the most requested girls can sit idle for half the time they are at the parlor. After you break it all down, it is easy money, but not really big money these girls are making.
I would be interested to hear, though, if my tipping level is about standard, or am I contributing to GPS. Please post or PM.[/QUOTE]They are lying to you Tom. Why not? You wouldn't tip as much if you know the truth.
They get half of the door fee. The MP splits 50/50. The honest ones will tell you the truth.
[QUOTE=Benz1;2832403]They are lying to you Tom. Why not? You wouldn't tip as much if you know the truth.
They get half of the door fee. The MP splits 50/50. The honest ones will tell you the truth.[/QUOTE]Benz is right. Any girl that says they don't get any of the door fee is blowing smoke up your ass. I've seen Mama Dee, Jenifer and Kiet hand the girls their cut of the door fee. Some girls get 40 of the 60 for an hour because they "supervise" or bring in a lot of business.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2832476]Benz is right. Any girl that says they don't get any of the door fee is blowing smoke up your ass. I've seen Mama Dee, Jenifer and Kiet hand the girls their cut of the door fee. Some girls get 40 of the 60 for an hour because they "supervise" or bring in a lot of business.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Benz1;2832403] The MP splits 50/50. The honest ones will tell you the truth.[/QUOTE]Well I will "out" myself I am a provider at a local MP. Just to clear up the misconception about how much we get from the room rate it veries from 50/50 if you are legit with a license and then it goes to $20 hour /$10 half hour if you are not licensed. The MPs also take 10% of your tips if the client tips on a credit card. We also have to pay for supplies of $10-20 a week. Oh and if the provider goes over the half hour or hour then the provider needs to cough up the portion of the room rate for the additional time. I never short my clients there time but this might be a reason why some of the other ladies do so. I troll this page just to make sure if something is said about myself I will improve upon my services. Most ladies will tell you all about the MP but please remember that they are giving you information pertinent to them and all MP providers are not the same.
[QUOTE=Dddinks;2832490]Well I will "out" myself I am a provider at a local MP. Just to clear up the misconception about how much we get from the room rate it veries from 50/50 if you are legit with a license and then it goes to $20 hour /$10 half hour if you are not licensed. The MPs also take 10% of your tips if the client tips on a credit card. We also have to pay for supplies of $10-20 a week. Oh and if the provider goes over the half hour or hour then the provider needs to cough up the portion of the room rate for the additional time. I never short my clients there time but this might be a reason why some of the other ladies do so. I troll this page just to make sure if something is said about myself I will improve upon my services. Most ladies will tell you all about the MP but please remember that they are giving you information pertinent to them and all MP providers are not the same.[/QUOTE]Clearing the air??
It is not all about the money for me, some of these girls don't give good massages because they are lazy, just because they are the pretty one you pick doesn't get them the pot of gold. Plus I've noticed that some want more than an escorts BJ for a HJ.
Fine, if they want to be that way, I moved on and will get the occasional massage from a good mp and absolutely no expectations of anything else. Then see a good escort for the extras.
When I left the MP curcuit in Grand Rapids they all lost money. And I'm not the only one that has left, so all of the gps has cost them more revenue in the long run.
Happy Hobbying with GrandRapids escorts for extras not MPs.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2832121]I overlooked her because she's not Asian. He seemed to be looking for AMPs. Plus Nikki is Fugly and into some type of Candy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! I was actually hoping for non AMP. In Detroit, that seems to be all that we have.
[QUOTE=Benz1;2832512]Clearing the air??
It is not all about the money for me, some of these girls don't give good massages because they are lazy, just because they are the pretty one you pick doesn't get them the pot of gold. Plus I've noticed that some want more than an escorts BJ for a HJ.
Fine, if they want to be that way, I moved on and will get the occasional massage from a good mp and absolutely no expectations of anything else. Then see a good escort for the extras.
When I left the MP curcuit in Grand Rapids they all lost money. And I'm not the only one that has left, so all of the gps has cost them more revenue in the long run.
Happy Hobbying with GrandRapids escorts for extras not MPs.[/QUOTE]No harm intended from letter one. I don't believe this was all necessary. Once again I am usually a silent background observer. I have learned many things here. Hell I have learned a lot from different girls and shops. When I tipped a full $ for the service it was not just for a massage.
*Yes the room was clean. That gets credit. But I walked through a dirty shop to get to it. Pile of dishes and filthy floors with trash all over. In her room I know that the towels have been cleaned and not just flipped over.
*Yes I paid extra for starting a massage with a massage instead of bickering about a menu. As things were moving along with talk and feel it must have warmed up in the room. I could tell because she got comfy. All while having an intelligent conversation and a massage I wanted. Sometimes I need a powerful massage and sometimes I want my hair to stand straight up and I'm ready for a flip.
*upon being cleaned up with clean hot towels I flip and still so pocket picking. Gouging for a shirt or roaming into a volcano. She did hand me hand sanitizer and I got the point. Really!! Very nice.
*A HJ with a smile, grin, wink, nibble and speed rate by my breath and look. It's so good I don't care if she is not DD. Her hands and or a body slide are close to the feel yet safe without a cover.
*After the cleanup I also have a choice to finish with cuddling, massage or shower. My choice. I am not hurried along.
*Many times I call days ahead so that I can see her at the time of my choice. When I do not have time to schedule and just walk in because I'm going to erupt I will walk out if she is not available and handle it myself or comeback hopefully in an hour or so.
*My home and Business are only an Hour away so I can usually accommodate. She is a busy girl and a skilled one.
*don't need a Dr. , ok, maybe a fetish, I cannot believe the stories and acting / knowledge this girl has. She is NOT like the other girls.
This is all not an advertiser for her. But it is damn sure worth one $. I have never gone to an escort and I have never been to a AMP for FS. It's not to say you cannot.
Now to add because now I'm a target. I TOFTT. This past Monday I tried a Nail / Massage place on a side road south east 2 blocks of 44th and the. AP for a full Rub was $60 and as I caressed a beautiful calf and up all I got was / not here. No. Asking for a clearer view and a more adult feel I got nothing. On my stomach I was in a full birthday suit. I did it pay to get on the table. On the chair had my phone, $$ and pillow underneath them. Still no sales on the flip. Upon the flip she then covered the bouncing wood. I pulled it to the side a few times and asked for a more beach like view. It was apparent why I was there and was going to be generous. Her name was see together with indy. Very nice but even just a great sport and good massage I donated 20.
And leaver her I did not get altoids and water. Just classy by the girl at the 44th and Kallamazo location by the name, a shade of red.
Thanks and good night. No harm no foul. Amber is a beautiful shade of red. Hope she sticks around.
I'm going to "out" myself too! I'm not really an older, horny, out of shape Monger with grey hair. I'm really a 26 year old, in shape, 6 pack abs, Brad Pitt / David Beckham looking Stud with GCS (golden cock syndrome)! I hope I won't be treated like a piece of fresh young meat, but instead, treated with kindness and love and above all, like a Human Being!
Thank You and Godspeed.
NJ.
[QUOTE=Dddinks;2832490]The MPs also take 10% of your tips if the client tips on a credit card. We also have to pay for supplies of $10-20 a week. Oh and if the provider goes over the half hour or hour then the provider needs to cough up the portion of the room rate for the additional time. I never short my clients there time but this might be a reason why some of the other ladies do so.[/QUOTE]10% of the Tip. Sounds like you work for Jennifer. Laywers ain't cheap!
The going over time worries are easily solved by utilizing a Clock. I know Kiet at Pacific loses his mind when the girls go over. But to be real, a lot of these girls, the young ones and a few older ones like Jennifer, are constantly fucking with their smartphones DURING the massage! The phone has the time on it! So, shorting the customer or going over shouldn't be an issue.
My High Horse is tripping over my Soap Box so it's time to sign out kids!
NJ.
(The Riddler) speaks of necessity, postings are necessary for information to be shared by mongers on the prowl including the Riddler.
Postings will expose bad sevices or no service and lies being told to us by the providers. This was an Epic stream of info started by the Riddler. Hopefully this thread has been helpful in exposing the lies being told to Tom and probably many others about the house fee split.
Kudos to the honest provider that shared her information on the situation. Maybe someday she can expose herself to all of us. So we can thank her properly for her honesty. (Plus it would be nice to get a free peak at the goodies, when she exposes herself). Honesty does have a payday, not right away but someday. Thank you Dddinks. (Expose yourself) (Now Damit) (We want to see the goodies).
This post was written straight forward, I hope everyone can understand it without the winding road of riddles.
[QUOTE=JackRabbit2;2832672]No harm intended from letter one. I don't believe this was all necessary. Once again I am usually a silent background observer. I have learned many things here. Hell I have learned a lot from different girls and shops. When I tipped a full $ for the service it was not just for a massage.
*Yes the room was clean. That gets credit. But I walked through a dirty shop to get to it. Pile of dishes and filthy floors with trash all over. In her room I know that the towels have been cleaned and not just flipped over.
*Yes I paid extra for starting a massage with a massage instead of bickering about a menu. As things were moving along with talk and feel it must have warmed up in the room. I could tell because she got comfy. All while having an intelligent conversation and a massage I wanted. Sometimes I need a powerful massage and sometimes I want my hair to stand straight up and I'm ready for a flip.
*upon being cleaned up with clean hot towels I flip and still so pocket picking. Gouging for a shirt or roaming into a volcano. She did hand me hand sanitizer and I got the point. Really!! Very nice.
*A HJ with a smile, grin, wink, nibble and speed rate by my breath and look. It's so good I don't care if she is not DD. Her hands and or a body slide are close to the feel yet safe without a cover.
*After the cleanup I also have a choice to finish with cuddling, massage or shower. My choice. I am not hurried along.
*Many times I call days ahead so that I can see her at the time of my choice. When I do not have time to schedule and just walk in because I'm going to erupt I will walk out if she is not available and handle it myself or comeback hopefully in an hour or so.
*My home and Business are only an Hour away so I can usually accommodate. She is a busy girl and a skilled one.
*don't need a Dr. , ok, maybe a fetish, I cannot believe the stories and acting / knowledge this girl has. She is NOT like the other girls.
This is all not an advertiser for her. But it is damn sure worth one $. I have never gone to an escort and I have never been to a AMP for FS. It's not to say you cannot.
Now to add because now I'm a target. I TOFTT. This past Monday I tried a Nail / Massage place on a side road south east 2 blocks of 44th and the. AP for a full Rub was $60 and as I caressed a beautiful calf and up all I got was / not here. No. Asking for a clearer view and a more adult feel I got nothing. On my stomach I was in a full birthday suit. I did it pay to get on the table. On the chair had my phone, $$ and pillow underneath them. Still no sales on the flip. Upon the flip she then covered the bouncing wood. I pulled it to the side a few times and asked for a more beach like view. It was apparent why I was there and was going to be generous. Her name was see together with indy. Very nice but even just a great sport and good massage I donated 20.
And leaver her I did not get altoids and water. Just classy by the girl at the 44th and Kallamazo location by the name, a shade of red.
Thanks and good night. No harm no foul. Amber is a beautiful shade of red. Hope she sticks around.[/QUOTE]Got to say, just my opinion, but all 3 of your posts about Amber and pushing why a $100 tip for a HJ is acceptable sounds like they were either written by Amber herself or a shill or a seriously wimpy guy. After reading your post I wouldn't see her if even if her expected tip was a more lnnormal $40, any lady who uses deceit to try to drum up business goes on my no see list, whether or not she has Golden Pussy Syndrome.
[QUOTE=Tom70;2815008]I can offer some thoughts on the Panacea girls. I'll PM you. (Anyone else, PM me if you want some intel).[/QUOTE]Saw Allison last week. She has a decent body in a decent face. Very friendly but did not offer any extras. Very nice ending topless only.
I just want to throw my 2 cents into the pot about tips in MP's. I have had everything from FS for 20 plus 40 house fee at Pacific on 44th (sara / with anal) to 120 plus 60 house fee for an absolute porn star fuck session with Mikki at the Islands in Lansing and everything in between. Why we tip and how much we tip has many factors. The girl, the establishment and what we are looking for (service) all play a part. Same goes for Escorts, I have had FREE service (Ivy) to paying 400/2 hours with Thai Princess. Overall, I try to keep my donations low so I can visit more frequently, but I have the occasional exceptions on both ends of the price spectrum. Most of us know the "standard" rate for tips at MP's and donations to Escorts but even I don't follow the norm now and then.
[QUOTE=Asianplvr;2833890]I just want to throw my 2 cents into the pot about tips in MP's. I have had everything from FS for 20 plus 40 house fee at Pacific on 44th (sara / with anal) to 120 plus 60 house fee for an absolute porn star fuck session with Mikki at the Islands in Lansing and everything in between. Why we tip and how much we tip has many factors. The girl, the establishment and what we are looking for (service) all play a part. Same goes for Escorts, I have had FREE service (Ivy) to paying 400/2 hours with Thai Princess. Overall, I try to keep my donations low so I can visit more frequently, but I have the occasional exceptions on both ends of the price spectrum. Most of us know the "standard" rate for tips at MP's and donations to Escorts but even I don't follow the norm now and then.[/QUOTE]You're right but I bet you never dropped 60 door + 100 tip for a HE.
Anal? Wow first time I've hear of that service at a MP!
[QUOTE=Monger01;2834720]You're right but I bet you never dropped 60 door + 100 tip for a HE.
[/QUOTE]I have. But as the OP noted, we all have our reasons. For instance, I have run into a MP provider recently who is exactly what I am looking for. She is a trained masseuse and gives a fantastic therapeutic massage. I'll pay more for that. She is also my perfect body type (stacked). I tipped very well the first time around and got a great massage and the standard (albeit very nice) ending. The second time around, she knows me better, knows I will respect her with a good tip and, voila!, more is available. I'll be going back for a third time here shortly. Finding out what is available is part of the fun.
Sometimes, you tip well not for the current session, but for future ones. Could I get an escort for what I paid? Sure. But you can also end up on an air mattress in a laundry-filled living room with mechanical event.
[QUOTE=Monger01;2834720]You're right but I bet you never dropped 60 door + 100 tip for a HE.
Anal? Wow first time I've hear of that service at a MP![/QUOTE]Sara was the Royal Jewel.
[QUOTE=Benz1;2834767]Sara was the Royal Jewel.[/QUOTE]Where is she now?