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Erin @ Charlies
[QUOTE=Half Amazing]She was there the last time I was there. Drunk as a skunk. She goes by a different name in Charlies. I dont recall what it is. I was there on a Monday night a few months back..[/QUOTE]She was using the name Maya about 2 months back.
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Drunk Erin...
[QUOTE=Azesus]I noticed some strip joint (for example Rio) has totally nude vip lapdance options, usually what level of action are expected? I assume fingering because it's unclothed for you to touch right? I rather ask a stupid question here rather than getting tossed by security there.[/QUOTE]
She should consider changing her name to "Lush"ious.
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A sense of humor
[QUOTE=B Malibu]She should consider changing her name to "Lush"ious.[/QUOTE]
I thought I was the one with the sense of humor!
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[QUOTE=Azesus]I noticed some strip joint (for example Rio) has totally nude vip lapdance options, usually what level of action are expected? I assume fingering because it's unclothed for you to touch right? I rather ask a stupid question here rather than getting tossed by security there.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the answer to your question is the old YMMV. Every place I've ever been to leaves it to the ladies to decide and they not only all have different policies, they have different policies for different guys and different policies for different times of the month. The club I go to, I've sampled enough dancers to know there is no overall rule or standard. One girl gives handjobs but only once she gets to know you. Another does but only if you bring and put on a rubber. Another one does all out blow jobs with a condom. Another one does kind of teasing little licks without a condom. Most will fuck but it depends on the guy, how clean he is, how sure they are he's not a cop, how much he'll tip and how much the management has been cracking down on things lately.
Some ladies just plain don't like to be fingered down there by guys in clubs. My former ATF (former because she's retired) would much rather have you put your dick in her pussy than your fingers. Most guys were quite willing to oblige her.
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[QUOTE=Ferd Berfel]Unfortunately, the answer to your question is the old YMMV. Every place I've ever been to leaves it to the ladies to decide and they not only all have different policies, they have different policies for different guys and different policies for different times of the month. The club I go to, I've sampled enough dancers to know there is no overall rule or standard. One girl gives handjobs but only once she gets to know you. Another does but only if you bring and put on a rubber. Another one does all out blow jobs with a condom. Another one does kind of teasing little licks without a condom. Most will fuck but it depends on the guy, how clean he is, how sure they are he's not a cop, how much he'll tip and how much the management has been cracking down on things lately.
Some ladies just plain don't like to be fingered down there by guys in clubs. My former ATF (former because she's retired) would much rather have you put your dick in her pussy than your fingers. Most guys were quite willing to oblige her.[/QUOTE]
What a beautiful and insightful post. I really couldn't have said it better myself!
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[QUOTE=Azesus]I noticed some strip joint (for example Rio) has totally nude vip lapdance options, usually what level of action are expected? I assume fingering because it's unclothed for you to touch right? I rather ask a stupid question here rather than getting tossed by security there.[/QUOTE]
I've been to clubs where the VIP offers no extras. I've been assured by girls working at other clubs that absolutely nothing happens back there, that there's cameras, and the next girl that comes along tells me I'm going to be balls deep in her within the next ten minutes (that's one HELL of a sell right there) and makes good.
Generally, if you don't get *any* good mileage in a normal dance, you're not gonna get crap in a VIP dance. There are exceptions, but it's a good rule of thumb. During the pitch, be very aware of what the girl does. If she grabs the "face" of your thigh, or the outside of your thigh, in my experience she's vamping. If she grabs the inside, up near your crotch, it's a crap shoot, but the odds might actually be in your favor. If she grabs your dick, game on. If she unzips you while you're at the bar and starts jacking you there, you've got a winner.
It's why I loved the bird back when I made my rounds of the clubs. You'd start with the 10 dollar dance, and that was the girl's time to "cop check" you, and your chance to see how she felt about getting felt up.
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[QUOTE=The Flatline]I've been to clubs where the VIP offers no extras. I've been assured by girls working at other clubs that absolutely nothing happens back there, that there's cameras, and the next girl that comes along tells me I'm going to be balls deep in her within the next ten minutes (that's one HELL of a sell right there) and makes good.[/QUOTE]The best sales pitch of that sort I ever heard was at a club in San Francisco about ten years ago. The dancer came up to me and said, "There's a party in my mouth. Wanna come?" Unfortunately, her looks were such that even that didn't tempt me.
The point I was trying to make is that every dancer has her own little set of rules and even these change from hour to hour and customer to customer. The hottest dancer I ever encountered at a club would tell you there were no extras and if you bought a dance from her, you got air. That was until she got to know you as a regular and it was also only with guys she thought were clean and nicely dressed. Once you passed her little test, everything was different.
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[QUOTE=Ferd Berfel]Unfortunately, the answer to your question is the old YMMV. Every place I've ever been to leaves it to the ladies to decide and they not only all have different policies, they have different policies for different guys and different policies for different times of the month. The club I go to, I've sampled enough dancers to know there is no overall rule or standard. One girl gives handjobs but only once she gets to know you. Another does but only if you bring and put on a rubber. Another one does all out blow jobs with a condom. Another one does kind of teasing little licks without a condom. Most will fuck but it depends on the guy, how clean he is, how sure they are he's not a cop, how much he'll tip and how much the management has been cracking down on things lately.
Some ladies just plain don't like to be fingered down there by guys in clubs. My former ATF (former because she's retired) would much rather have you put your dick in her pussy than your fingers. Most guys were quite willing to oblige her.[/QUOTE]
QFT
The fingers in the pussy thing is something actually allot of girls in allot of the different "exotic" services do not like. There are some who do not care. Btw washing your hands regularly and making sure the girl knows you do it goes a long way.
Personally I push the border but I do it politely. It quickly becomes obvious I am not a cop. Also I do not get rude. If a girl says no I stop. If I can not handle that then I do not give her any more money and find another girl or sometimes even another club.
The YMMV is also huge. I have had girls like me for whatever reason and go all nutz with me then get mad when another client hears from me what we did for how much and wanted the same thing. Learned quickly girls give different guys different levels of service and learned to know what I can share and what I can not.
On the flip side I have approached girls who guys have gotten certain things for certain prices and found those services are not available to me or are available at higher prices. I do not flip out or take it personal. I deal with it or let it go and move on to another girl.
Guys tend to forget how intimate these services are for the girls and that even though they are providing services for money they still will put different values on the same things depending the situation, client and sometimes factors which the client can not control in any way what so ever.
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[QUOTE=Hadezh]Guys tend to forget how intimate these services are for the girls and that even though they are providing services for money they still will put different values on the same things depending the situation, client and sometimes factors which the client can not control in any way what so ever.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think it's a huge mistake for guys to read on a forum like this that Heather at such and such a club gives great blow jobs in the V. I. P. Room then to go to that club and assume that Heather will give them a blow job in the V. I. P. Room. Apart from the fact that some guys lie, it still may not happen. For one thing, the management of the club may read the message on the net and tell Heather to stop giving blow jobs.
I went to a club one night and a dancer named Ruby gave great extras in the back room. I went back another night and in the back, I got the airiest air dance you ever saw. When I asked her why the difference, she pointed to the floater, the guy who walks around and counts the dances and checks on things. She said "Different guy".
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Floater
That is absolutely true. Dancer at Synn gave me ultra high mileage in the non Vip room and when I asked why she worked certain days and shifts, it was because of the floater and what she could get away with and obviously how much $$ she could make.
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I had a girl actually apologize for not being able to do more because she had just gotten in trouble with management that week. General rule is YMMV even within the same club and with the same girl.
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A dancer at my favorite club called me last night and said that the ladies had all been told to tone down the private dancers for a while. Management has noticed that there's one guy who keeps coming in, sitting there for an hour or two, then leaving. The way he acts, they suspect he's law enforcement gathering data for a possible bust.
There were a couple of dancers there who routinely gave CBJs for no mandatory tip and sometimes went farther. They aren't going to be doing that for a while, even with regulars.
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[QUOTE=OriginalEdStone]I had a girl actually apologize for not being able to do more because she had just gotten in trouble with management that week. General rule is YMMV even within the same club and with the same girl. [/QUOTE]And we should note that dancers also sometimes lie and say, "They're watching us on a camera to make sure we tone it down" because either they don't want to touch your pee-pee or they want you to pay them to do it off the premises.
Here's a question for the guys. My main interest in strip joints, apart from the fact that it's fun to watch nude women dance for you, is that I like takeout. I like striking up a relationship with a dancer and seeing her outside the club, preferably not on a pay basis. Over the years, at least for me, this has happened most often in low mileage clubs. In the high mileage clubs, there's a very good chance of getting laid but not in finding a lady who'd be interested in meeting somewhere for a drink and conversation. In the low mileage clubs, that happens often for me.
Has anyone else had a similar situation or the opposite?
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Sam's Hof Brau
Does any one have an idea if Ice La Fox ever worked at Sam's as a waitress?
This would be about 6 or 7 yrs ago.
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Dating strippers
Oh yeah it happened to me a few times but I thought it was taboo so I've never discussed 'about it. It's not like I go to strip joint looking for relationship but sometimes if a very attractive lady shows a liking to you then why push them away? Usually the situations falls into the following subtypes. First is the college student stripper, they're more easy going and goes with the flow, they're attracted to someone they can talk to and still has disposable income to do something fun compared to their college counterpart. Then the next is the part time stripper who's civ job is entree level intern, again the situation are similiar. These usually last 3 5 months, something just a quick fun for both parties. Then the last but the best is the above 30yrs sweet sensual mature charming women, they're usually attracted to someone nice, gentle, well spoken men that gives them the sense of security, because most men won't date strippers so they get lonely too so it's nice for them to have a companion if you are a gentlemen. usually these lasts 9 months, the only and major negative aspect about them is that usually their financial part of their life are not well put together and I'm just an ordinary salarymen don't have the long term capacity for that. So it's nice while it lasts. Just my own 2cent, immature people please save your barking for the pounding.