Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6150167]So this is random, but does anyone know how to go deep into the archives here? I was curious the actual date I met Thalia. For how long exactly have I been obsessing over her? But there seems to be a limit to how far back the search goes. Couldn't figure out how to find my first post about her.[/QUOTE]I think I solved this mystery while looking for something a while back. If you search under your handle and "see forum posts" they only save the last 200.8 pages at 25 per page. Your posts are still there in the frums however. If you made a post in 2007 that was 1400 posts back for you it's still there you'll just have to search using different keywords to find it.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6150415]I got it!

Not that anyone cares but me, but I met her Feb 12, 2018.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?11470-USA-Adult-Classified-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3723414&viewfull=1#post3723414

What's a good five year anniversary gift for an ATF?[/QUOTE]I think a five hundo bonus is in order. She has certainly given you that much extra pleasure over the period. LOL! I have a favorite sugar baby I have been seeing as long or longer. Of course, I have made thoughtful gifts a regular part of our relationship. I'm not doing any cash bonuses.

BAM.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6152020]I think a five hundo bonus is in order. She has certainly given you that much extra pleasure over the period. LOL! I have a favorite sugar baby I have been seeing as long or longer. Of course, I have made thoughtful gifts a regular part of our relationship. I'm not doing any cash bonuses.

BAM.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but I'm going to need you to radically reduce how much you think is my income! LOL.

What is up with these rates? I realize inflation, and I know I've been away 7 years or so, but damn. The average was anywhere from $- 5 an hr with the $.5 normally being the better providers and if you went regularly $ for the hr. You could always find the. 7-$ but normally you knew why. Now the average asking is $$ for an hr. Why flip this for a nut or 2? It is not gold. I can understand $$ for the top shelf especially for a first visit nowadays, but no more. Yes I realize we can haggle, but then they normally don't preform as well. I just don't understand why they think a nut or 2 is worth so much, and why anyone is flipping these rates. Again it isn't that valuable no matter how good they are. Not many that are really top shelf either, yes some have good qualities, but nothing to command these asking rates.

[QUOTE=CanyonHunter;6155935]What is up with these rates? I realize inflation, and I know I've been away 7 years or so, but damn. The average was anywhere from $- 5 an hr with the $.5 normally being the better providers and if you went regularly $ for the hr. You could always find the. 7-$ but normally you knew why. Now the average asking is $$ for an hr. Why flip this for a nut or 2? It is not gold. I can understand $$ for the top shelf especially for a first visit nowadays, but no more. Yes I realize we can haggle, but then they normally don't preform as well. I just don't understand why they think a nut or 2 is worth so much, and why anyone is flipping these rates. Again it isn't that valuable no matter how good they are. Not many that are really top shelf either, yes some have good qualities, but nothing to command these asking rates.[/QUOTE]They go as high as the demand dictates. When their phone is constantly being blown up they know they can ask for it and most likely get it. If business is slow prices drop. My guess there are a ton of young nerdy gamer guys who don't know how to approach a woman so they just pay for the pussy now and not have to worry about the relationship bs that comes with gf or wife.

[QUOTE=BigJay69;6156166]They go as high as the demand dictates. When their phone is constantly being blown up they know they can ask for it and most likely get it. If business is slow prices drop. My guess there are a ton of young nerdy gamer guys who don't know how to approach a woman so they just pay for the pussy now and not have to worry about the relationship bs that comes with gf or wife.[/QUOTE]I get it kinda, but they must not realize they are overpaying. I know I have seen 7 in the past 2 months and offer a good rate for the dream and every one of them came down because it was within reason and they tell me they get low balled all the time. So why not find a better middle ground instead of reaching so high and haggling?

[QUOTE=CanyonHunter;6156233]I get it kinda, but they must not realize they are overpaying. I know I have seen 7 in the past 2 months and offer a good rate for the dream and every one of them came down because it was within reason and they tell me they get low balled all the time. So why not find a better middle ground instead of reaching so high and haggling?[/QUOTE]You just answered your own question. Because some of the time they get it and when they don't they get you. If you don't ask you'll never get, so you might as well try to get as much as you can. It's simple economics. Pussy is worth as much as the buyer is willing to pay. Don't forget that.

[QUOTE=CanyonHunter;6155935]What is up with these rates? I realize inflation, and I know I've been away 7 years or so, but damn. The average was anywhere from $- 5 an hr with the $.5 normally being the better providers and if you went regularly $ for the hr. You could always find the. 7-$ but normally you knew why. Now the average asking is $$ for an hr. Why flip this for a nut or 2? It is not gold. I can understand $$ for the top shelf especially for a first visit nowadays, but no more. Yes I realize we can haggle, but then they normally don't preform as well. I just don't understand why they think a nut or 2 is worth so much, and why anyone is flipping these rates. Again it isn't that valuable no matter how good they are. Not many that are really top shelf either, yes some have good qualities, but nothing to command these asking rates.[/QUOTE]I live in the Dayton area and most of what we get here is fat, not attractive, drug using women that want $$+ for an hour of very poor service. If you are lucky enough to get a girl that does not ghost you she usually is not ready on time. Then after taking chances of get busted or robbed and waiting for her to get out of bed you find out she looks nothing like her pictures. Then she has all the rules.

I cannot control what others are willing to pay but I can control myself. I do not use these girls that are not dependable and over priced more than once.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6152020]I think a five hundo bonus is in order. She has certainly given you that much extra pleasure over the period. LOL! I have a favorite sugar baby I have been seeing as long or longer. Of course, I have made thoughtful gifts a regular part of our relationship. I'm not doing any cash bonuses.

BAM.[/QUOTE]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]Ron M from Chicago here.

Get her a gift card to her favorite store or restaurant.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]As long as you have been seeing Thalia and professing your "love" for her, I think the proper anniversary gift at this time would be and engagement ring! :) Seriously though, maybe you should plan a date where you take her out to a very nice dinner, maybe a stroll along the riverfront, and then a nightcap of lustful pleasure.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]The traditional five year anniversary gift is wood, but I guess you have already given her that.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;6162203]So I know people really come here to complain and argue about politics or whatever, but I'm hoping a few more of you would be willing to brainstorm! I can't afford a 500 gift for our fifth year, but what are appropriate gifts for a favorite escort? Beyond the obvious like a bottle of wine. I don't know how to start thinking about it! LOL.[/QUOTE]After 5 years, a gift could be anything that would make them feel like a valued friend, not just a person you bang when you get the itch. Perfume, a basket of bath supplies, a gift card to a spa or salon; these are items that are personal without being sexual, and without breaking the bank.

[QUOTE=NotYourAverage;6162235]As long as you have been seeing Thalia and professing your "love" for her, I think the proper anniversary gift at this time would be and engagement ring! :) Seriously though, maybe you should plan a date where you take her out to a very nice dinner, maybe a stroll along the riverfront, and then a nightcap of lustful pleasure.[/QUOTE]I think that's a great idea. If she still lives in Covington, Dee Felice would be a place for a romantic dinner and close enough that you wouldn't be spending a lot of unnecessary travel time!

[QUOTE=NotYourAverage;6162235]As long as you have been seeing Thalia and professing your "love" for her, I think the proper anniversary gift at this time would be and engagement ring! :) Seriously though, maybe you should plan a date where you take her out to a very nice dinner, maybe a stroll along the riverfront, and then a nightcap of lustful pleasure.[/QUOTE]That sounds wonderful, but I'm too scared to go out in public. I run into too many people sometimes!