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[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5188799]What is "OF" - understood your post overall. But could not figure out what OF stands for.[/QUOTE]It's subscription-based website for content creators: a writer might post her work there for you to read, or a chef might post recipes and how-to videos. But, primarily, many sex workers use it to sell / share their sexy images.
This one hit me up. Went straight to Snapchat. Has an OF but also is looking for an in person arrangement. Pic on the site are very flattering, had her send some pics standing up and she is pretty thick through the middle with a little gut. Wants 500 ppm, I didn't try to negotiate because I already have a few that are much better looking and cheaper. I have the feeling that she won't be finding too many takers as a sugar baby or "content creator" on OF. If you're feeling charitable here's the link to her profile. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/300f2929-5acf-436e-a52e-41e4d5fef05e[/URL].
[QUOTE=Bronco62;5189241]This one hit me up. Went straight to Snapchat. Has an OF but also is looking for an in person arrangement. Pic on the site are very flattering, had her send some pics standing up and she is pretty thick through the middle with a little gut. Wants 500 ppm, I didn't try to negotiate because I already have a few that are much better looking and cheaper. I have the feeling that she won't be finding too many takers as a sugar baby or "content creator" on OF. If you're feeling charitable here's the link to her profile. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/300f2929-5acf-436e-a52e-41e4d5fef05e[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yeah you can tell even from her pics on the site that she's a stealth fatty.
1. Thick neck.
2. Hides arms.
3. No body pic (but she could probably find a flattering angle for her body too).
For me, neck and arms are biggest giveaway.
Demands money sent before meet. Nope.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ac7183b6-c250-457e-b8a6-4933d8465c30[/URL]
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5189723]Demands money sent before meet. Nope.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ac7183b6-c250-457e-b8a6-4933d8465c30[/URL][/QUOTE]Willing to bet that some hobbyists will fall for that.
[QUOTE=Kinkaid69;5189208]Onlyfans dot com.
Looks like facebook, but basically cam girls. They charge $10 or $20 a month if you want to flollow, and can ask for tips in chat. Lot's of "custom" porn. Against the rules to solicit in person meetings.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, thanks. I know what that site is all about. Makes sense, and yes I agree, there has been a surge of women on SA pushing OF to daddys lately.
[QUOTE=MartyByrde;5189740]Willing to bet that some hobbyists will fall for that.[/QUOTE]It's funny because I sent a text and then about 30 seconds later I get a 250 word explanation of why she needs the money, that she's not a scammer, etc. Clearly copied and pasted. Like there is no way she could type it all in that amount of time. They think we're stupid, and maybe some of us are.
[QUOTE=LetsGoBB;5186651]She initially said she wants 500 but said she'll do 400 ppm. I passed for now.[/QUOTE]No way. That is way too much for her. She is good but not 500 or 400 good. Besides with her habits and flakey attitude I'd go nowhere near that rate. Paying those rates I expect incredible, on time service and the word "no" should be forgotten completely. That is what I hate most about the other site. There are dreamers there that want 400 for CBJ and it is just ridiculous. I for one will not tolerate that shit.
Scam.
Talks a big game then wants you to secure a spot by putting down a deposit for half of the ppm. I told her that I was not interested in paying a deposit and she said that she was no longer interested. Surprise. Surprise. LOL.
Prefer under 40 must be clean preferably hung pm for details.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5188814]I have not seen her. But seemed pretty open in private messages (even though it is her first day in this new profile) - I have my hands full and so I cannot pursue any further.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6db8e1d6-257c-48d2-8278-b2628f3a39a5[/URL][/QUOTE]I got no BB, no anal, suggested car dates instead of hosting. I got 300/ hr, 200/30 m, 125/15 m rates which scream pro to me. I'm passing on it.
In the past few weeks I have heard several girls say the same thing about how SA was described and what it actually is are 2 different things, their understanding was that the guys on here would take them on trips, pay for whatever. I would call it the fairytale fantasy, one thought I would pay for their rent each month, another pay off credit cards (I am good with if the CC total is like 100.00), another help pay off college and other crap like that.
The girls usually get pissed off and block me.
If anyone has any luck tell me how you do, she was on the site before and either got rid of her account or was booted off, we were supposed to meet then went silent she seemed to be ready to do it all and now I see she is back with new username so someone take a run at her and see what she does.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5a3b789c-0a88-4c92-bb66-30e92a1ec33c[/URL]
[QUOTE=BrstMan;5195635]In the past few weeks I have heard several girls say the same thing about how SA was described and what it actually is are 2 different things, their understanding was that the guys on here would take them on trips, pay for whatever. I would call it the fairytale fantasy, one thought I would pay for their rent each month, another pay off credit cards (I am good with if the CC total is like 100.00), another help pay off college and other crap like that.
The girls usually get pissed off and block me.[/QUOTE]Good observation. That is correct. Although there are a lot more women on SA and some incredibly good deals to be had. There is a lot of filtering that is required. Right now there are tons of online only, GPS and women with crazy stupid expectations.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/18060bc6-795d-4d7e-a025-91352e4f3dd1[/URL]
Another sb that wants a "virtual" arrangement due to covid. SMh. Pass.
[QUOTE=BrstMan;5195635]How SA was described and what it actually is are 2 different things[/QUOTE]I wonder if that strategy is sustainable, the romanticized idea that SA peddles brings more women to the site which brings more men (who I think bring the bulk of their income). However to become a long term user of the site a guy has to bed a few chicks, which is much harder when most of the girls are expecting a platonic luxury experience with Richard Gere.
That rethoric I guess also help with PR but again business wise in the longer term not sure that it actually works
[QUOTE=DelToro;5197302]I wonder if that strategy is sustainable, the romanticized idea that SA peddles brings more women to the site which brings more men (who I think bring the bulk of their income). However to become a long term user of the site a guy has to bed a few chicks, which is much harder when most of the girls are expecting a platonic luxury experience with Richard Gere.
That rethoric I guess also help with PR but again business wise in the longer term not sure that it actually works[/QUOTE]I think what happens is one girl gets that one guy that pays a good amount and then other join thinking they will get the same, I have noticed around where I look which is up north a significant drop in girls in my search, I have my top age of 31, when I started looking 3 months ago there were more online in my search than I could message, now it is steady around 6. I also looked at all the ones I have messaged that haven't been active for at least a month as well as ones that said they were looking for what I would best described as a boyfriend and it is a significant percentage of who I have messaged.
One just told me that she has met with 2 guys since she joined the site 3 months ago and both said they wanted a long term thing and both went silent after she met them, she didn't say for sex but lets be real, she said she joined the site not to meet several guys but to meet that one guy she would see a few times a month for hopefully at least a year.
[QUOTE=BrstMan;5197378]I think what happens is one girl gets that one guy that pays a good amount and then other join thinking they will get the same, I have noticed around where I look which is up north a significant drop in girls in my search, I have my top age of 31, when I started looking 3 months ago there were more online in my search than I could message, now it is steady around 6. I also looked at all the ones I have messaged that haven't been active for at least a month as well as ones that said they were looking for what I would best described as a boyfriend and it is a significant percentage of who I have messaged.
One just told me that she has met with 2 guys since she joined the site 3 months ago and both said they wanted a long term thing and both went silent after she met them, she didn't say for sex but lets be real, she said she joined the site not to meet several guys but to meet that one guy she would see a few times a month for hopefully at least a year.[/QUOTE]I think the PR is a good thing. Selfishly naive girls are fun to meet up with because they usually aren't too expensive / are fun.
Also, over the long term even for the girls, the ones who are semi-pro / experienced can still claim to their friends they are doing what the marketing material for SA.
I know they are a glorified escort, they know they are a glorified escort (the experienced ones), but their friends / family don't.
To me, this makes it attractive to more girls which leads to the buyers market it is right now, and the vastly superior services they provide compared to escorts. Like for me:
SA is.
Fun cute college girl, no condom required, 50/50 they are open to BB anal, 50/50 they are cool with overnights, genuinely seem to like me / enjoy spending time with me, no time limit dates, etc etc for 200-500 (I usually stick to 200-300 but will do more for the right girl).
Escorts are.
300-500 for jaded fugly mid 30's girl that hates her clients, is completely phoning it in, covered everything, only meets for an hour, acts like they are doing you a favor.
The only reason SA has the volume of girls to sustain this is because the girls "aren't escorts" and I'm fine with weeding through some trash to find the good ones.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5196588]Although there are a lot more women on SA and some incredibly good deals to be had. There is a lot of filtering that is required. Right now there are tons of online only, GPS and women with crazy stupid expectations.[/QUOTE]But some in this area will get it. I was chatting with a well-regarded TNA provider whose rates start at $$, enthusiastic but very safety. She said she has quite a few who book the same amount of time for $ $ $ $ $ and even much more. I've heard similar things from several others. There are a lot of highly paid low-social-skills men in this area.
[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5197394]I think the PR is a good thing. Selfishly naive girls are fun to meet up with because they usually aren't too expensive / are fun.
Also, over the long term even for the girls, the ones who are semi-pro / experienced can still claim to their friends they are doing what the marketing material for SA.
I know they are a glorified escort, they know they are a glorified escort (the experienced ones), but their friends / family don't.
To me, this makes it attractive to more girls which leads to the buyers market it is right now, and the vastly superior services they provide compared to escorts. Like for me:
SA is.
Fun cute college girl, no condom required, 50/50 they are open to BB anal, 50/50 they are cool with overnights, genuinely seem to like me / enjoy spending time with me, no time limit dates, etc etc for 200-500 (I usually stick to 200-300 but will do more for the right girl).
Escorts are.
300-500 for jaded fugly mid 30's girl that hates her clients, is completely phoning it in, covered everything, only meets for an hour, acts like they are doing you a favor.
The only reason SA has the volume of girls to sustain this is because the girls "aren't escorts" and I'm fine with weeding through some trash to find the good ones.[/QUOTE]Social media has been normalizing SA and it appears these college students see it as a viable source of income with no shame. Straight up flaunting the fact that they have a sugar daddy.
SA has killed the other board for me. A couple drinks seem to get the freak out of many of these girls. Treat them like a gf and they'll with you the GFE treatment.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/17699a0a-e689-408a-b12b-d62773895355[/URL]
Does anyone have experience with Kate? She favorited me and it seems that she's been on the site for a while. We've exchanged messages but she has rescheduled a couple of times already. I don't think that she's a scammer but perhaps a time waster?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c661a86e-eb09-4f9c-b2f0-6abb90b3a8af[/URL]
Seemed nice enough but when we got down to it I offered 250 she countered with 600. I thought that I was being generous at 250 considering her looks.
[QUOTE=KashMoney;5197850][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/17699a0a-e689-408a-b12b-d62773895355[/URL]
Does anyone have experience with Kate? She favorited me and it seems that she's been on the site for a while. We've exchanged messages but she has rescheduled a couple of times already. I don't think that she's a scammer but perhaps a time waster?[/QUOTE]Profile says she is in San Francisco now.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5196588]Good observation. That is correct. Although there are a lot more women on SA and some incredibly good deals to be had. There is a lot of filtering that is required. Right now there are tons of online only, GPS and women with crazy stupid expectations.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rousse;5197742]But some in this area will get it. I was chatting with a well-regarded TNA provider whose rates start at $$, enthusiastic but very safety. She said she has quite a few who book the same amount of time for $ $ $ $ $ and even much more. I've heard similar things from several others. There are a lot of highly paid low-social-skills men in this area.[/QUOTE]Sure absolutely. They are only doing it because they seem to be getting away with it. Could not agree more. Just not something I would do. That's all. Also completely agree with you. This area does have a lot highly paid low social sklls men - .
[QUOTE=Bronco62;5198597][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c661a86e-eb09-4f9c-b2f0-6abb90b3a8af[/URL]
Seemed nice enough but when we got down to it I offered 250 she countered with 600. I thought that I was being generous at 250 considering her looks.[/QUOTE]Big time gps! She's way too fat and ugly to be 600.
She looks like someone I saw on STG before anyone else think that.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dde81069-8ff1-4e7a-8320-62333a59b1a5[/URL]
Anyone else use multiple burners or other ways to have more than one untraceable number, how safe is google number or text now.
[QUOTE=BrstMan;5198805]Anyone else use multiple burners or other ways to have more than one untraceable number, how safe is google number or text now.[/QUOTE]Yes, most of us use some sort of "burner" or texting app. There are several apps to choose from like TextNow or Burner. I know a lot. Of. People use Google Voice, but that links to a google account with maps and email and advertising. I don't want that much tracking linked to my burner.
How safe is an app? Safe from what? My main concern is having a girl track down my home or employer when she turns crazy, and an app is plenty safe for that. If you're concerned about law enforcement or a really good investigator looking for the sperm doner, you'll need more than an app.
To be completely secure, buy pre-paid phone with cash, pay for dinner dates with only cash. Use only your burner, or a VPN, to access this site or Seeking. I could keep going, but even this is probably more trouble than it's worth.
[QUOTE=BrstMan;5198805]Anyone else use multiple burners or other ways to have more than one untraceable number, how safe is google number or text now.[/QUOTE]Sorry don't have an answer to your question but just my 2 cents. I use a few burner apps, with diff created emails and #s. I'm starting to not even want any of that shit on my personal phone. Thinking about prepaid flip phone or another smart phone just for pooning. Technology and tracking back 2 you is too scary in this day and age. IDK! Any tech guys here!
Is one site better than the other? It seems like seeking is usually the one referenced here. Also any tips how to sign up anonymously on the sites. Don't want things linked to my personal credit card.
Oops quoted the wrong post...
[QUOTE=BrstMan;5198799]She looks like someone I saw on STG before anyone else think that?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dde81069-8ff1-4e7a-8320-62333a59b1a5[/URL][/QUOTE]I haven't seen her on STG. She has been on SA for a long time. She is one of the first ladies that I messaged on SA, as I remember she had some GPS and was bitchy.
[QUOTE=FantasyManJ;5135896]Here are some for why'all. YMMV and don't treat them as pros. Overnight or at least a few hours during the day on these ones. I might have more insight for you if you are a solid contributor. Don't bother pm-ing me if you don't share good intel to the threads. I got a few girls I am not ready to give up yet but will share if I upgrade. Happy new years everyone.
Mbaby1993 - 300 or 400 ppm?, CIP, no greek, kinda semi pro - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5b570cf6-0095-4bdd-befa-0c03108a4019[/URL].
Ellebackwoods - 300 ppm, CIP, greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3397a134-a73c-43d1-aeac-1461ec225b4f[/URL].
Krystalyn411 - 400 ppm, CIP, greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/240aee8a-c423-4f7c-9423-a9c86fcfd821[/URL].
Trynabeboujee_ - 400 ppm, CIP, no greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b8c947f2-7f8c-4bfe-b596-8df84dfdc69c[/URL].
Pnwlifer - 300 ppm, CIP, no greek - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3eb8572b-743e-4f3c-add9-c7a1642eacd5[/URL].[/QUOTE]Great list and ty for the helpful intel.
Been chatting it up with Pnwlifer. She's a bit strange and scatter-minded inmho. Wanted to m&g first and made it clear that she hates ppm and turned down 300 so I passed.
[QUOTE=Kinkaid69;5199687]Yes, most of us use some sort of "burner" or texting app. There are several apps to choose from like TextNow or Burner. I know a lot. Of. People use Google Voice, but that links to a google account with maps and email and advertising. I don't want that much tracking linked to my burner.
How safe is an app? Safe from what? My main concern is having a girl track down my home or employer when she turns crazy, and an app is plenty safe for that. If you're concerned about law enforcement or a really good investigator looking for the sperm doner, you'll need more than an app.
To be completely secure, buy pre-paid phone with cash, pay for dinner dates with only cash. Use only your burner, or a VPN, to access this site or Seeking. I could keep going, but even this is probably more trouble than it's worth.[/QUOTE]I only use cash, surprises me when a girl says just send me some money via paypal. NOPE.
[QUOTE=BurnerMale;5200041]Is one site better than the other? It seems like seeking is usually the one referenced here. Also any tips how to sign up anonymously on the sites. Don't want things linked to my personal credit card.[/QUOTE]Seeking is usually more active, and once you pay messages are unlimited. If I had to choose only one it would be seeking. I've never heard of any problems following anyone back to their real life though the site and their credit card, but I can understand the concern. You should be able to sign up with a pre-paid card, just make sure the card you buy accepts international purchases. Seeking uses a credit processor bases overseas, so some cards won't work.
[QUOTE=FlashLidar;5186830][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b7efe4aa-20c0-4960-aa0b-43f3ca3f6468[/URL]
Exchanged text messages with this one. Wants 500 1 hr ppm for massage / cock love. Promised me the best blowjob I've ever had. LOL. Will do 2 hrs sex for 800. Sounds way too much like a pro and asking gps rate so I passed.[/QUOTE]This 'pro' did not even return my intro message. So a very picky pro. *shrug* Her loss.
[QUOTE=BrstMan;5195635]In the past few weeks I have heard several girls say the same thing about how SA was described and what it actually is are 2 different things, their understanding was that the guys on here would take them on trips, pay for whatever. I would call it the fairytale fantasy, one thought I would pay for their rent each month, another pay off credit cards (I am good with if the CC total is like 100.00), another help pay off college and other crap like that.
The girls usually get pissed off and block me.[/QUOTE]Why do you care what she spends an allowance on? Set your limits and go for there.
I've had a few longer term arrangements where they start to depend upon your allowance for things like rent. When it ends, I do feel a little bad but I am no longer supporting them. That is there problem.
Personally I do prefer SB's who have a basic income and can pay for the cost of living things themselves. I'm not much for a charity sob story as most of them are scams anyways. Get together and just have fun / relax.
I am going to bring my European SB on a flight to Asia by booking a private suite on the Singapore Airlines A380's one of these days. Sure that's going to be costly but it'll be a mile high bucket list item off the list. Can't bring money with you when you are dead and I can't think of anyone else I'd rather be locked in small quarters with for 10+hours. LOL. Few bottles of champagne. And I'll be a rather dehydrated fellow in more ways than one at the end of it. We were planning pre covid but sadly all put on hold.
I wouldn't call what I say above the 'dream'. I am getting something out of things too. It's a two way street. I would never do this with a girl I have no confidence in her ability to deliver over a trip.
[QUOTE=Paradigum;5200795]Why do you care what she spends an allowance on? Set your limits and go for there.
I've had a few longer term arrangements where they start to depend upon your allowance for things like rent. When it ends, I do feel a little bad but I am no longer supporting them. That is there problem.
Personally I do prefer SB's who have a basic income and can pay for the cost of living things themselves. I'm not much for a charity sob story as most of them are scams anyways. Get together and just have fun / relax.
I am going to bring my European SB on a flight to Asia by booking a private suite on the Singapore Airlines A380's one of these days. Sure that's going to be costly but it'll be a mile high bucket list item off the list. Can't bring money with you when you are dead and I can't think of anyone else I'd rather be locked in small quarters with for 10+hours. LOL. Few bottles of champagne. And I'll be a rather dehydrated fellow in more ways than one at the end of it. We were planning pre covid but sadly all put on hold.
I wouldn't call what I say above the 'dream'. I am getting something out of things too. It's a two way street. I would never do this with a girl I have no confidence in her ability to deliver over a trip.[/QUOTE]I don't care what they spend the money on those were just examples.
What it comes down to is they were looking for a rich guy to take care of them for and for the guy to get little in return, this might be a bit specific but I doubt the woman will find out but one joined SA because her friend joined and got hooked up with some tech guy who gave her a CC to use as she wished.
99% of the guys on SA are not going to give unlimited money to some girl and that is where their dreams come crashing back down to earth.
[QUOTE=Paradigum;5200795]Why do you care what she spends an allowance on? Set your limits and go for there.
I've had a few longer term arrangements where they start to depend upon your allowance for things like rent. When it ends, I do feel a little bad but I am no longer supporting them. That is there problem.
Personally I do prefer SB's who have a basic income and can pay for the cost of living things themselves. I'm not much for a charity sob story as most of them are scams anyways. Get together and just have fun / relax.
I am going to bring my European SB on a flight to Asia by booking a private suite on the Singapore Airlines A380's one of these days. Sure that's going to be costly but it'll be a mile high bucket list item off the list. Can't bring money with you when you are dead and I can't think of anyone else I'd rather be locked in small quarters with for 10+hours. LOL. Few bottles of champagne. And I'll be a rather dehydrated fellow in more ways than one at the end of it. We were planning pre covid but sadly all put on hold.
I wouldn't call what I say above the 'dream'. I am getting something out of things too. It's a two way street. I would never do this with a girl I have no confidence in her ability to deliver over a trip.[/QUOTE]I care. I just can't imagine giving money to someone that's going to waste it on pair of $700 boots or who pulls up in a $60 K car (both people I encountered at Meet and Greets). I'd rather they use it for rent, their kids, school or something like that. I'm not attaching strings to the money I give them, but I won't waste my time with the type of person that will fuck me so they can go shopping for expensive designer clothes. We just wouldn't click.
I travel for work and Seattle is one of my stops. I recently found two non pros who's number I'm willing to trade in return for the same. Both are 19, one white and the other Latina. I do have pics so I ask you have the same. I will only reply to serious inquiries.