"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

'When you think of Pit Bull you think big trucks. Big rims, but no not me I stay low key. Cause if they can't spot me. Then they can't watch me. And if they can't watch me then they sure as hell can't stop me. ' – Pit Bull.

Kicking a little street knowledge for ya. My occupational endeavors have always involved a great deal of secrecy and security. I was taught at an early age to have a separate account known only to you. Offshore if possible. Keep the amounts below certain limits and you have no (tax) reporting issues. I established the account before marriage so it is not marital property per the law even after tying the knot. My play money came / comes out of my paycheck before it hit the joint account. My excuse if needed was that I was required to have expense money available for last minute assignments at all times and that for security purposes it should not lead back to my family.

Gentlemen, you are conducting a covert operation. Practice operational security (OPSEC). If the warden breaches security she should only be able to determine that something is going on. She should not be able to figure out who, what why, when, where, and how much. Make like you are a Mission Impossible team member and make sure your communications self-destruct in five seconds. If you are holding onto contraband (emails, texts and photos) and the warden tosses your cell you are fucked. At best you are going to be thrown into solitary confinement and at worst you she is going to bend you over while reaching for the broom handle.

Yes, I've been through a divorce. It had nothing to do with infidelity and everything to do with incompatibility. But that does not change anything. Divorce is a rule of law. A simple division of property. It is only the white hot emotions that surround the event that make it difficult. Do not be afraid of the lawyer for the opposition. You can always get a good one for yourself. Be proactive, now. If you have a risk of divorce for ANY reason do your research now. Learn how it works. Know in advance who your advocate will be. Develop your intelligence on the opposition. Develop a plan to protect your assets. Practice safe sex gentlemen and that means more than just slapping on a condom.

SubCmdr out

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1430006]Does it work on babies as well?

Scott[/QUOTE]That's certainly a new trick that I just might have to try sometime! The only thing close that I've experienced was with Altoids. While it was great I already have a major sensitivity issue (in a bad way, you have to leave me alone for a while afterwards) and it magnified that issue. But during it was fantastic!

Mandy

Target designation SB2. 26 year old MILF with two kids (with a few extra pounds). So, I schedule my standard meet and greet a Starbucks in her area. One hour after our original meet time I get a text."Can you meet me outside at my car. I'm a little overdressed for Starbucks." I head out the door and over to her car and she gets out. I get my first look at her and think "oh no". Standing before me is a straight up BBW, loud and proud, a bit bigger than my tastes. But she has a pretty face (and I'm not really worried about her personality). Hair and make up done right. Sporting the 'everybody loves cleavage' top, mini skirt, and completes it with 4-inch CFMN pumps. In a word she looks like a garden tool. Boy, I'm glad I don't know anyone in this neck of the woods. LOL!

Hug and kiss on the cheek. Damn, she got glitter on. Going to have to completely sanitize before returning to the prison (I'm out on my work release pass). She wants to go get something to eat and I'm not really into that. I try not to do food on meet and greets as I consider it a waste of three important resources (food, money and time). But my afternoon schedule is clear and I'm imagining her lips on the tip of my dick and so we roll out to the restaurant.

At the restaurant I sit through the unabridged version of the trials and tribulations of her short life. In just a quarter century she has managed to fail to complete college, have two kids, breakup with her children's Father, lose her good job, her home, bankrupt herself, and gain a insane amount of weight that is now beginning to cause health problems. Wow! And I thought I had problems. She also tells me that on top of all this her phone was turned off.

The meal is complete and the party favors are available. Would have love to taken her for a test drive, but between her being late, the life story, intense and protracted sugar negotiations, this afternoon must come to an end. We make plans to meet again in a few days. I pay the check and we exit.

We get to her car and it is time to part ways. I hug her and whisper into her ear 'let's mess around some and we'll get your phone turned back on. ' So, we drive to a parking lot to the parking lot behind the hotel. She asks, 'Can I use my hand' I'm like 'no, you know what to do'. So, it's late afternoon in a hotel parking lot. There is some light vehicular traffic. Workers from the hotel taking smoke breaks. And she's giving head for a cellular phone bill? Sugar Baby my ass! At worst she's a pro on her day off. At best she's a Nado 1. So, I'm rock hard and ready to bust and she stops. She is freaking out, and says she not want to be going down on me in this situation. I smile and simply keep reassuring her that I'm keeping a look out and everything will be fine. So finally after many starts and stops and using a combination of methods, she finishes me up. We clean up. I contribute to her cell phone fund. She wants my assistance in finding a payment center for her phone's service provider. I hit Google on my cell and get her what she needs. I drive her back to her car and I'm off. Now that was a lot of fun! It's not everyday you meet a strange girl ready to jerk and suck your dick to completion in a public parking lot in broad daylight. But when you do, I think you got to say it was a good day!

But now it's race down the freeway back to the prison. Keeping an eye out for the authorities monitoring vehicles moving at excessive speed. Did I beat the Warden back? Yes! She decided to go out with friends. Got time to dump the trash, sanitize the car, shred the receipts, dump the clothes, scrub the glitter off, wash all other incriminating trace evidence down the drain, have a drink and be chillin before the Warden gets back for the weekend lock down. Like they used to say on that old show The P Team. I love it when a plan comes together.

Stay horny my friends,

SubCmdr out

Bondo, My last blackmailing "SB" was a classic Nando 1 which I now will avoid like the plague, but she gave good service for $100 all night, and she was a very good looking and talented girl. But she was soooo effed up as a drug addict, etc, that in the end she wasn't worth it. So be careful when you are fishing for the cheapos. The previous one was $200 / pop for extended care but she too was a mess. In the end, you can luck into a less expensive SB but she will need to be either very young, naive, and / or desperate.

I think a long term committment to a SB for $500-700 / month could work for 4 visits / month, especially if you don't ask for monogamy. These low grade hookers can work 2 to 4 Daddies and make their goal.

Scotty, this Polo of yours sounds like an experimenteur supreme.

[QUOTE=Bondo500;1429994]As Joe mentions I have let anyone wanting more than $150 / session walk and that's limited the playing field but no sense in trying to live a lifestyle I can't afford.[/QUOTE]I am the same way with the sugar. I have a limit of $150 and if that doesn't work I move on. It has worked good up to this point and a few of the ones that wanted more have settled for this number and we had a good time.

There is a lot out there to choose from. Take your time and find what works for everyone involved.

Fix

[QUOTE=Hernando;1430084]Scotty, this Polo of yours sounds like an experimenteur supreme.[/QUOTE]I think she enjoys treating me like a Boy Toy and showing me all the sexy stuff she knows how to do. I'm totally fine with that. I hope I never graduate from Polo Academy.

Mandy, I knew a baby like that once, and it had its upside (intensity) and down side, honestly (the waiting period). After I posted, I did a google search on "blow jobs and toothpaste" and apparently there is a whole world out there that revolves around toothpaste, toothbrushes and other oral care tools and what nasty uses they can be put to. The women seem to advocate just a small dab, while the guys like to overdo it (what a surprise!)

Let me put this out to the general brotherhood, and I include you in that term, my sweet Babyblog, what are some other strange but effective household items that you have used or heard used? Something beyond hairbrushes and vaseline jelly. One poster highly touted the handle of an ice cream scooper, as an example. The things you can find on the internet, I swear!

Scott
PS - Joe, very funny joke about Sensodyne! You're a funny guy.

Given all of our recent discussions on the cost of sugar I wanted to share that my latest blog post is about two different kinds of sugar myself and a sister received last week. For my sister, it was an unexpected moment of legal services. And for me,"The Doctor" stepped in to help solve a medical issue I've dealt with my entire life. My sister and I are very grateful for this assistance. See, sugar doesn't always mean money & shopping.

Mandy

[url]www.sugarbabystory.com[/url]

[QUOTE=SbabyBlog; 1431072]Given all of our recent discussions on the cost of sugar I wanted to share that my latest blog post is about two different kinds of sugar myself and a sister received last week. For my sister, it was an unexpected moment of legal services. And for me,"The Doctor" stepped in to help solve a medical issue I've dealt with my entire life. My sister and I are very grateful for this assistance. See, sugar doesn't always mean money & shopping.

Mandy.

[url]www.sugarbabystory.com[/url][/QUOTE]Guess I'm going to have revisit the CPO formula and figure out some way to factor in "goodwill". Mandy you are a genius. I think you have discovered what ultimately raises sugar relationships out of the realm of strict transactional sex.

As the math texts say: "The proof is left to the reader"

SubCmdr Out

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1430080]It's not everyday you meet a strange girl ready to jerk and suck your dick to completion in a public parking lot in broad daylight. But when you do, I think you got to say it was a good day![/QUOTE]But Sub, can you really say this was a sugar baby? In my opinion a sugar relationship is more than a one or two time thing. I'd love to hear opinions on this from my brothers (HA! I've never had brothers!). Seriously though, I'm doing a radio interview on Tuesday (pre-recorded, anonymity will be kept) and I have to defend sugar and the differences between it and prostitution.

Now, it's a younger generation radio station and the segment is called "Real-sex" so I don't think I'll be challenged in any way. But, I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions on the topic as it will shape how I answer those questions. Once the interview is aired, I'll get the link to it and put it on my blog.

Wish me luck!

Mandy

This weekend has been an odd one, to say the least. As many advised here, I sent SB#2 a message asking that she get back to me and clarify what was going on. She got back to me fairly promptly, and after some discussion, we agreed to meet again. That was to be last weekend, but an hour before I was to leave for the meeting, she texted me, saying something had come up and she couldn't make it. A few messages back and forth and we agreed to just push the meeting ahead a week, same place and time. So meeting time was to be yesterday, and just as I was getting ready to leave, the phone chimes to let me know I've got a new message. It's SB#2 telling me that, yet again, she can't make it. She offers to met me the next day, but I've already got something planned (see below) , so I tell her I can't make it and ask her if she has any other ideas. Still haven't heard from her, and not sure I ever will at this point.

Today, met another woman I contacted through SA. Like with SB#2, I let her choose the place we met for lunch. She picks the exact same place! Go figure. Some here insist that the idea is to keep the initial meeting simple and cheap, coffee or something simliar. I figure lunch isn't that much, and by giving her the chance to choose, I show her I can be considerate of her wishes. Besides, if I'm buy her lunch, I don't have to offer her anything for gas, and these days, lunch might almost be a bargain compared to filling a gas tank up. Anyhow, we met, got a seat, and started talking. She's in her mid-to-late twenties, decent looking body for a woman who says she's got a kid (father gone). She seems to be interested in me, and the talk last well past when we're both finished with lunch. We finally decide to get out of the place and I walk her to her car. I'd told her I didn't intend for our first meeting to end in a 'booty call', so we parted company. As with SB#2, she seemed to enjoy herself and acted interested in me. Whether anything happens, or if instead it all fizzles I do not know, but that's how this man's 'sugar weekend' ended.

Hopefully everyone else is doing better.

[QUOTE=SbabyBlog; 1431072]Given all of our recent discussions on the cost of sugar I wanted to share that my latest blog post is about two different kinds of sugar myself and a sister received last week. For my sister, it was an unexpected moment of legal services. And for me,"The Doctor" stepped in to help solve a medical issue I've dealt with my entire life. My sister and I are very grateful for this assistance. See, sugar doesn't always mean money & shopping.

Mandy.

[url]www.sugarbabystory.com[/url][/QUOTE]I agree.

A long time ago I met one and I let her work for me, but I constructed it so that she was on recurring monthly commission, , so now even after not having been with her for 4 years she still gets a monthly check of 1, 500 without lifting a finger.

[QUOTE=SbabyBlog;1431449]But Sub, can you really say this was a sugar baby? In my opinion a sugar relationship is more than a one or two time thing.[/QUOTE]The Cmdr is in dry dock. My intelligence officer Lt. Cmdr Sbaby has conducted a review and found my profile lacking true Sugar Baby appeal. This is affecting the quality of Sugar Baby that I attract. Also, she has made me aware that I don't have the resources to play in in the deep end of the sugar bowl. She has also indicated that if I'm looking for a (garden tool) I'm going to find a (garden tool). I have acknowledged my lack of game and plan to step it up a notch. Her work is noted and appreciated. She has gone above and beyond the call of duty.

Sbaby you have a point. But, I found SB2 on SA. I would have taken her to a room if she had not been an hour late. We were supposed to get together a couple of days later but she never confirmed. She canceled our next three dates and has stopped all communication with me. Now Daddy is all dressed up with no Baby to blow me. LOL!

I'm not in control of the length or number of times a pot SB wants to see me. I would have seen her at least a few times (maybe more) had she simply made arrangements to bring the party favors and shown up. She could have been MY sugar baby. But alas, I found myself a victim of assault with a pussy weapon. What is a SD to do? Report this violation to the NASB (The National Association of Sugar Babies). I could request that she be sanctioned for "Failure to provide party favors in a timely and consistent manner" or "False impersonation of a Sugar Baby". No! Emotionally bruised and wallet light, I refuse to be a victim. I call upon the sympathy of the brotherhood (and sister) for their understanding and support to soothe my wounds. I shall not let this sugar baby false start deter me from pursuit of the ultimate goal. The ATF!

As we have previously discussed, I don't know what a SUGAR BABY is. But I know how MY Sugar Baby will act and treat me. But until I find the elusive ATF that my brothers-in-ass speak on so fondly I shall continue to prosecute targets of opportunity and deploy my WPAD to full effect.

Pursue, negotiate, get off. It's the sugar daddy way!

The SubCmdr has left the building

*This is my sociological mind working*

Think of it on a range.

Arrangement for a hour (bad). Arrangement for a lifetime (good)

It is about where on that range society draws the line of approval.

Back in the day the only approved structure was marriage. Now that has changed.

Practical example of this: Weed.

Weed has gone mainstream. Why? Because societal opinion has changed. This societal shift has lead to a change in usage and laws to support the new societal views towards it usage.

Where is Sugar on the line of approval? Where is swinging? Being Gay? Other forms of alternative sexual behavior?

Check out:

[url]http://prostitution.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000096[/url]

The Cmdr has left the building

[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1431566]The Cmdr is in dry dock. My intelligence officer Lt. Cmdr Sbaby has conducted a review and found my profile lacking true Sugar Baby appeal. This is affecting the quality of Sugar Baby that I attract. Also, she has made me aware that I don't have the resources to play in in the deep end of the sugar bowl. She has also indicated that if I'm looking for a (garden tool) I'm going to find a (garden tool). I have acknowledged my lack of game and plan to step it up a notch. Her work is noted and appreciated. She has gone above and beyond the call of duty.

Sbaby you have a point. But, I found SB2 on SA. I would have taken her to a room if she had not been an hour late. We were supposed to get together a couple of days later but she never confirmed. She canceled our next three dates and has stopped all communication with me. Now Daddy is all dressed up with no Baby to blow me. LOL![/QUOTE]Well I kind of agree with Sbaby, about your budget. YET here I placed an add on Craigs, to find a sweet reply of an young female, intrigued by the idea of sb / sd, and all she wants is educational aide and a guide to assist in her expedition to the wild erotic mystical land. So how can one refuse that. Is providing 'education' and 'guidance' not also providing sugar?

So just as there are quite a few different targets, there are also different torpedoes for the accomplishment of the goal.

[QUOTE=EuroInCincy; 1431549]I agree.

A long time ago I met one and I let her work for me, but I constructed it so that she was on recurring monthly commission, , so now even after not having been with her for 4 years she still gets a monthly check of 1, 500 without lifting a finger.[/QUOTE]Euro,

I think I can save you some money. I'd be happy to not lift my finger for $1200 a month!

Meant in total jest, but why do you still send her money? Fear of blackmail? If someone with fiduciary responsibilities in your company sniffs this out, isn't there a great deal of exposure for you?

Scott