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[QUOTE=Raoul Duke;1452869]I hate to do this, but I need some help and I'm happy to return the favor if I can help anyone with recommendations in Chicago. I usually find places in the financial district, but if anyone can recommend a petite hottie at an AMP, or an indy on the UES, I'd be grateful. PM if you prefer. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Raoul glad to see you made it to this forum in NYC. Yes I can hmu
[QUOTE=Furys;1425054]Anyone know the # for L8? They Relocated.[/QUOTE]122 Baxter St Either on the 7th Flr or 3rd Flr
[QUOTE=Amp Middleman;1456633]Raoul glad to see you made it to this forum in NYC. Yes I can hmu[/QUOTE]Yep, it's been a while. Hope all is well. Thanks for the info, NYC is a great place for mongering.
Thai girl Nina 718-517-0970.
This is Nina that's the star girl at Thai Silk. She left and has her own apartment in the same area. Her massage is amazing. Thai style bodyslide and stretching in the nude and she uses her whole body against yours in every imaginable position and then some. She's a petite atheletic spinner, beautiful face with that inviting thai smile. If you've been to Thailand and seen thai girls you know what I mean. Her attitude is perfect, she wants please and have you back for more. She works hard and doesn't tire out, she's the asian energiser bunny. After a 30 minute full out nude bodyslide and massage she goes into ST and her girlfriend service which included everything your girlfriend would do and everything you wish she would do. Nina is one of a kind and I highly recommend her. The apartment is much better to recieve her "treatment" as its private and on a queen bed and way more comfortable than the busy spa she was formerly with. 200/260 no tip asked for but I tipped 40 for exceptional treatment.
If you don't mind a chubby girl, Ninas friend Diddi at 718-517-0970, (47st midtown) will RIM you with a smile. Her massage is great and she will BBBJ and fuck (covered) all for 160hh or 200 hr, no tip asked for.
She's a sweet girl too. Just not a hotbody. But a fun and pleasing attitude that makes up for it.
[QUOTE=TheManDude; 1451954]I had the pleasure of Nina today. She was my favorite at another place, and now she's out of the busy spa scene and working in her own apartment in midtown. She treats you like she's your girlfriend. Its full, nude and hot. And her massage is spa quality. The apartment is upscale and very discreet, with a nice shower and clean towels.
For those who haven't experienced her treatment, she knows how to give a pro traditional thai stretch massage, but if your not up for that she'll do a great accupressure instead. Along with a nude bodyslide.
She doesn't stop there. As her session progressed, she tongued me all over, and asian for what seemed forever.
For me she's unbeatable. A sweet personality, beautiful face, smoking hot body on a petite frame, eager to please, professional caliber massage skills, and uninhibited girlfriend experience. I would see her for the massage or for the GFE. That she does both so well is something very rare for the 260hr. She also does half hours too. Website link inBP ad.
[url]http://thaigirlnina.webs.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Yea I'm a regular there, get Osuca next time if you ever get another chance. Osuca is a darling, full GFE, lots of compliments and vocal action. Bianca is a little bit of a dead fish, not really into it.
If you're a regular they'll put you into the room towards the back right. Its larger and furthest away from the other rooms. They'll also give regulars priority choice for girls and they get first pick, even if the girl has been booked in advance earlier in the day. The mamasan will just say the girl is busy and unavailable for the poor non-regulars.
[QUOTE=NY Monger; 1450109]Called famtasia. Asked for and "reserved" bebe. Usual checkin system, although their place is hard to find if you've never spent time way downtown. But be patient, its not that hard.
She was as in her photo, although in retrospect, the photos are obviously photohopped. Services were as usual, but not as enthusiastic as I hoped for. But I got the feeling that if you're a regualr its different. Its so unusual for me to be down there, not really worth the effort to go back. The space is clean, safe and overall I'd give it a 6. 5/7. More enthusiasm I'd give it a 8. 5/9. YMMV.
Please post if your experience was different[/QUOTE]
Not sure if anyone else reads $Bill's blog but for some reason, his blog is down, and has been for days. I read it both for his humor and intel on AMPs in the city. Just wondering if anyone else noticed.
[QUOTE=WetAsianWonder; 1466629]Yea I'm a regular there, get Osuca next time if you ever get another chance. Osuca is a darling, full GFE, lots of compliments and vocal action. Bianca is a little bit of a dead fish, not really into it.
If you're a regular they'll put you into the room towards the back right. Its larger and furthest away from the other rooms. They'll also give regulars priority choice for girls and they get first pick, even if the girl has been booked in advance earlier in the day. The mamasan will just say the girl is busy and unavailable for the poor non-regulars.[/QUOTE]OK, well, I can see that happening. Whats the best time to go during the week? Afternoon? I agree that regs always get btter treatment at KMPs, so your comments ring true.
Let me know and I'll report back after my next visit.
Looking for a spot where I can get extras if possible or a full massage then HJ I donn't like the ones that give you HJ after 5 seconds in table.
I am a lifelong New Yorker and I have tried a few times to get a HE at an AMP with no luck. Can anyone make a recommendation on where to go and how to act? Please PM me.
Yoyo,
The best suggestion I can give you about where to go to find a HE is to RTFF.
As far as how to act, here are suggestions for you and any other newbies out there:
1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.
2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.
3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, ' have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.
3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.
3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!
3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.
3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.
4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.
5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.
Generally you will find that Asian massage parlors are very honest, and you don't have to be as careful with your possessions as with 'other' massage parlor providers. Not trying to be racist here, but my experience (after 25+ years) in this hobby proves that to be true.
6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.
7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.
Revision 1: A mamasan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.
8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.
9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.
10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.
11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.
12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.
13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.
14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.
15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.
16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.
17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.
18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.
This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 30+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from other hobby mongers. If you have some additional helpful hints, please add them to the list. It will help all of us who are in the 'hobby'.
Enjoy the hobby,
Dirty.
[QUOTE=Yoyoma1;1472739]I am a lifelong New Yorker and I have tried a few times to get a HE at an AMP with no luck. Can anyone make a recommendation on where to go and how to act? Please PM me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trav;1469839]Not sure if anyone else reads $Bill's blog but for some reason, his blog is down, and has been for days. I read it both for his humor and intel on AMPs in the city. Just wondering if anyone else noticed.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've been a regular reader as well. Hope he finds a new way to post.
If you google his name, his new site will pop up.
Found dollarbill-ny
(40th betwen 7th and 8th) I heard that they had an expanded menu under new management so I gave it a try. Last time I went there about 2 years ago it was strictly a handshake only place. This time around indeed FS was offered. They offer an 3 item menu of special services with FS available for $ in tip.
My provider was Shina, a korean girl in late 20s or early 30s. It was a bad experience because she seems new to this. Table shower was half hearted and did not get in to nooks and cracks. FS was rushed but she was extremely extremely tight.
House fee 0. 7 for hr
Has anyone seen gioia. Angel she's European big breast and is in manhattan. She communicates through email until you you are ready. I have seen some pics that she sent me but no face pics she not skinny but not fat. She's voluptuous. If anyone has experienced let me know how it was and if she's pretty. I'm planning on going Saturday.