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Exceptions
[QUOTE=DaneMargo;2403774]Would love to find a girl who pops when you pop or at least get really turned on by CIP. This has been my holy grail since crazy stripper ex-girlfriend who gave super hot verbal encouragement and then when I gave her the gift she asked for, she would have an eye-rolling orgasm.
Three HX girls I've been with are like this. This board knows of one with a breeding fetish: Riah Star / Sinful_Curves. The other one isn't active anymore, so I won't mention here, but PM, if curious. The third one gets off on CIA but only for trusted regulars (she says), so I shouldn't name her (but you're welcome to go fishing via PM).
Most of the girls named here seem to be pump-and-dump, and they seem to be dead between their legs, simply making money with they hooha. Although reports on Sammybanks21 (HX handle) seem to indicate that she gets into it.
Anyone care to say which girls actually get off on CIP?[/QUOTE]I have to agree, 99% are pump and dump, but there are some exceptions.
There's a High Desert girl named Sheri, that I've seen for maybe 10 years on and off. She's older but a total spinner body and fucks me BBFS for $100 w / video (now days). There's no intimacy. She's a little wacky. But it's decent cheap BBFS w / CIP. Anyways, she turns into Pris, the pleasure android, from Blade Runner (Daryl Hannah) in the scene where she's grinding the air after getting shot when I shoot a load in her. It's actually pretty funny. She makes weird noises, her eyes roll back and all you see is white. She LOVES it when I cum in her. She flaps up and down and grinds on me like you would believe. It's amazing to watch the video later. :
But my favorite in the world was my first trip to the Philippines (aka bareback heaven) doing my first girl there on the first night. I was pounding away and finally ready to shoot. I liked the girl, so I was polite and asked her where she wanted me to cum. She screamed at me at the top of her lungs, "Inside! Inside!" I'll never forget her voice and that demand from her that night until the day I die. Yes, she loved the feeling of load in her.
There's actual clinical proof that CIP is good for women. Something about our testosterone being absorbed into the female body and making them happy, like eating chocolate. Google it.
-GG.
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[QUOTE=GreboGuru;2498108]Even worse is when you come back from South East Asia after BBFSing 3 different girls a day for anywhere between $25 and $75 each and then come back to USA prices and girls who say they are the "best you've ever had" who don't even kiss let alone BBFS. Talk about sticker shock!
Ignorance is bliss my friend, ignorance is bliss!
-GG.[/QUOTE]Where in south east asia I may have to plan a trip at those prices and then retire there too =).
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[QUOTE=GreboGuru;2498137]
p.s. All those Korean and Chinese AMPs and hotel girls are syndicates too. You know it. You find a girl you like. You got back for a 2nd dipping and have fun. You go the third time and she's gone and some new untrusted/unrated/unknown provider is there in her place![/QUOTE]From my experience it seems that most of the KAMPs are women owned. Don't know about KAAMPs that are advertised on CV since the last time I used those was 10 years ago. Over the last two years it appears to me that most of the CAAMPs are now ran by men, or at least the ones that have advertisements up on Hx and BP. There are still many CAAMPs ran by women but you have to find them through word of mouth or by following one of your lady friends to them. Some of those places are cut throat though as I went to visit one of my ATF *Bonnie aka Cherry aka Isobel aka Yuki* and the lady who ran the place was saying how she could get me much prettier women as she slipped me her number. I tossed it.
As far as the woman workers go they are indie contractors who book work themselves from their friends and contacts based on criteria such as is the place busy? Safe? Advertising? Or Regulars? Most don't want to work on their own because they don't have to speak English, advertise, book hotels, or even cook. Thus that frees them up to lay around all day and spread their legs when appropriate for 400 to a 1000/ day. The owners' of these places are not making the bulk of the money (40 out of the 120). The workers follow different trails and take different paths and some end up running their own place or more likely returning back to China to pay off some debt accrued from a sick or dying family member. If a Boss or house earns a bad reputation the info will be spread through their version of twitter.
These places are also called 10 day houses because of their cyclic rotation. Though at times a worker may stay longer because they haven't developed any connections in the industry and don't have the next contract booked. Like you said about Tijuana the fresher someone is from the source, or closer to shelf life, the easier it is to find what this board is about.
If you don't like supporting some lazy guy who pimps out women for a living and prefer Asian women, the best route is the KMPs.
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Informative discussion
Lots of sensible points have been made in the last several posts and it is an interesting read. I envy the guys who are go after attractive women and are smart enough to wear a condom. Unfortunately, I am not one of them and never have been.
Of course when I started, I took what I could get and that was most often with a condom. Then I found Century Acupressure (RIP) in Inglewood and I have never been the same. Now I am old and set in my ways and I am barely interested in bareback with a girl if she insists on an external discharge. Sadly I no longer have the income to visit the girls who provide cip and are actually attractive and appreciative.
I am stuck with the same women. They are old and they provide what I need but they are cum dumps with no emotion. Once in awhile I get lucky with a bar s lut or ex-girl friend who actually wants to be seeded, but they are few and far between. I just have to plow on.
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[QUOTE=Tjinla2001;2498436]Lots of sensible points have been made in the last several posts and it is an interesting read. I envy the guys who are go after attractive women and are smart enough to wear a condom. Unfortunately, I am not one of them and never have been.
Of course when I started, I took what I could get and that was most often with a condom. Then I found Century Acupressure (RIP) in Inglewood and I have never been the same. Now I am old and set in my ways and I am barely interested in bareback with a girl if she insists on an external discharge. Sadly I no longer have the income to visit the girls who provide cip and are actually attractive and appreciative.
I am stuck with the same women. They are old and they provide what I need but they are cum dumps with no emotion. Once in awhile I get lucky with a bar s lut or ex-girl friend who actually wants to be seeded, but they are few and far between. I just have to plow on.[/QUOTE]
About twenty years ago I worked with this guy who hit on EVERYTHING that moved. It didn't matter if the girl was black, white, yellow, purple, fat, skinny, young, old, or in between. He hit on it. Because he was going to nursing school at the time as well, I nicknamed him "Doctor Smooth. " I watched Dr Smooth in amazement and disgust. Amazed at how dedicated he was on his quest for pussy, disgusted when I thought what some of the girls would look like naked. I asked him about it one day, something to the tune of "Dude, really? You'd hit that?" I don't remember his actual answer, but the impression I got was basically "pussy is pussy and I enjoy the company of women. " It's a numbers game, you ask enough of them out, some percentage of them will say yes. I'm no where near as brave as him in the "real world" but it definitely rang home as being true.
Now days I just ask every girl on HX, RB (dead), CL, BP, etc if they'll do what I want. The affirmative response is minimal, but I do get responses and I do get what I want. Are they all 10's like I want? No! There's some 8's and a lot that are lower. Sometimes you have to lower your standard based on product availability and budget. (My budget is small.).
Put me in a go-go bar in the Philippines and it's all different. I can sit in a bar in SEA for hours looking through the hundreds of girls and try to pick the perfect one. When they are $25 a pop for about 20 hours, you can be much more selective!
On my first trip to Thailand years ago I was at Soi Cowboy with my buddy I was visiting and his boss. My friend and I were both meticulous in picking "the right girl" to spend the night with. We'd spend hours and hours to find just the right one. My friend was more brazen then me then, he'd life every skirt to make sure the girl was shaved and he'd lift ever shirt to see if she had baby damage or not. His boss would sit at the bar watching us bored shitless. He would say "Come on, just pick one." His point of view was "Pussy is pussy. They all feel the same on the inside. They'll all make you come. Just get one and let's go."
My goal is to dip my wick in a fine young teenage skinny pussy every day. But I can't get what I want every day and I've learned to satisfy the pussy addiction with what filters down to what is available and what I can afford. So sure, I'll go to my favorite CAMP and stick it in the fat 35 yo because she takes it raw and still feels good.
I'm now at the point I throw a wider net to catch fish to eat, not a small one just to catch the fish I want to eat. I just try to filter down the girls to the services I want. If they do what I want for an affordable price - I hit it. If not, I move on. BBFS ahoy!
Remember the old saying, "Fat girls are like bicycles with training wheels, they're alright as long as your friends don't see. ".
-GG.
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[QUOTE=Tjinla2001;2498436]Sadly I no longer have the income to visit the girls who provide cip and are actually attractive and appreciative.[/QUOTE]You mean 80-100? I've found some and there have been some posted on this site.
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High Desert Girl
Love this site. The things you learn. Turns out we're both doing Sheri. You described her to a T. The eye rolling thing is quite the treat for the male ego. Didn't know she was into video though. She's a cool girl. Known her about 10 years too. Used to advertise on CL as a "pole smoker" Cute. Next time I see her I'll ask if she is in the market for new clients which I assume will be coming out of the woodwork now. Her call of course. She is UTR and I'm sure that's where she wants to be. Stay tuned.
[QUOTE=GreboGuru;2498161]I have to agree, 99% are pump and dump, but there are some exceptions.
There's a High Desert girl named Sheri, that I've seen for maybe 10 years on and off. She's older but a total spinner body and fucks me BBFS for $100 w / video (now days). There's no intimacy. She's a little wacky. But it's decent cheap BBFS w / CIP. Anyways, she turns into Pris, the pleasure android, from Blade Runner (Daryl Hannah) in the scene where she's grinding the air after getting shot when I shoot a load in her. It's actually pretty funny. She makes weird noises, her eyes roll back and all you see is white. She LOVES it when I cum in her. She flaps up and down and grinds on me like you would believe. It's amazing to watch the video later. :
But my favorite in the world was my first trip to the Philippines (aka bareback heaven) doing my first girl there on the first night. I was pounding away and finally ready to shoot. I liked the girl, so I was polite and asked her where she wanted me to cum. She screamed at me at the top of her lungs, "Inside! Inside!" I'll never forget her voice and that demand from her that night until the day I die. Yes, she loved the feeling of load in her.
There's actual clinical proof that CIP is good for women. Something about our testosterone being absorbed into the female body and making them happy, like eating chocolate. Google it.
-GG.[/QUOTE]
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Bbfs / bbbj
I get bb about 40% of the time if I feel she is safe. Maybe it's because I'm an old guy and they trust me. Maybe it's because
I always give them my best daty if they are into it, and then they like to return the favor. Sometimes I pull out if they don't want me to
Cip. Sometimes you have to build up trust first and it takes a few visits. Hey, I just don't like the covers. And I've never caught anything.
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Getting BBFS
I've enjoyed reading the discussion here. Just wanted to contribute from personal experience.
I'm relatively young, but this is the way I go about it. First of all, I don't only initiate contact with those known to provide BBFS, I also ask those who've never been reviewed, or those who have previously not been so willing. I ask every provider I'm interested in. Because hey, you never know. I've learned that although some will never do it, a lot more would do it depending on the way you ask, the way you present yourself, and stuff like that. That's what I used to do in the beginning of my experience in this hobby. My success rate in terms of BBFS acceptance (with CIP) compared to girls contacted would be something like 50%.
However, I got tested a couple of times after that. All clean. Not at a random free clinic, but at a professional testing center of a specific testing services company that is used in the porn industry. Some guys on the board might know which one I'm talking about. You do pay a good amount for the test, because they test using the latest technology and most accurate equipment taking into account window time. They also test for all diseases in the package. So you get your results the next day, and it's all online, were you log into your account on the web-site and see your results. This means that it's not paperwork that you can alter, and assures the girl that you can't forge or change test results. It's also a known and respectable company.
After having tested there twice, and mentioning that I possessed these results, my BBFS acceptance rate, I would honestly say, went up to at least 75% overall. I don't say this to boast, I say this to just contribute something from personal experience and suggest you guys do this if you want to get more BBFS, from girls you never thought you'd get it from. It's a one-time investment that will do you wonders (if you're actually clean), because most of the providers (from personal experience) don't care about the date on the test results, they just care that you have something that resembles legitimacy. So if you want more BBFS, I'd really recommend doing something like this. You'll have the results forever, and it'll always be an added bonus when you ask the girl, and it also differentiates you from others. I'm not saying it necessarily makes you better, just that in the providers' eyes, they're infinitely more likely to accept BBFS with you than with someone who doesn't have it. It's also the reason I've gotten BBFS from all but two of the pornstars I've seen in the last few years.
Just recommending what has helped me get a lot of BBFS from most of the providers I've asked over the years. It really has been a worthwhile one (or two) -time investment, and should be for you guys too. I say one-time because I've used test results from three years ago to convince a lot of the providers to get BBFS, and barely any have demanded for more recent results.
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[QUOTE=MQD100;2498342]Where in south east asia I may have to plan a trip at those prices and then retire there too =).[/QUOTE]The two unofficial pussy capitals of the world are:
1 Pattaya, Thailand. Girls are generally $75+ a DAY with a 20% BBFS ratio.
2 Angeles City, Philippines. Girls are generally $25+ a DAY with a 100% BBFS ratio.
Of course there are cheaper and more expensive.
Either place, the girls will treat you better than any girlfriend you've ever had. You've got them from the time you picked them until their next shift (6 PM next day? Of course you will have to feed them at about $3-$5 a meal too.
If you go, you will not come back the same and you will do anything within your power to go back again. It's is EXTREMELY addictive. You've been warned.
-GG.
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Small World. Small girl
[QUOTE=LittleFeat;2498724]Love this site. The things you learn. Turns out we're both doing Sheri. You described her to a T. The eye rolling thing is quite the treat for the male ego. Didn't know she was into video though. She's a cool girl. Known her about 10 years too. Used to advertise on CL as a "pole smoker" Cute. Next time I see her I'll ask if she is in the market for new clients which I assume will be coming out of the woodwork now. Her call of course. She is UTR and I'm sure that's where she wants to be. Stay tuned.[/QUOTE]Hilarious. I'm sure you know, but she's got a shared apartment now in the SFV and is down here about 1/2 (the time. I get booty texts from her now and then but I'm usually too busy. I try to see her when I can. Last time I was there I think I might have met her ex and her ex's ex. Funny family. Good fuck though.
We're officially milk brothers.
Converted to Perverted!
-GG.
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Pi
[QUOTE=GreboGuru;2499080]The two unofficial pussy capitals of the world are:
1 Pattaya, Thailand. Girls are generally $75+ a DAY with a 20% BBFS ratio.
2 Angeles City, Philippines. Girls are generally $25+ a DAY with a 100% BBFS ratio.
Of course there are cheaper and more expensive.
Either place, the girls will treat you better than any girlfriend you've ever had. You've got them from the time you picked them until their next shift (6 PM next day? Of course you will have to feed them at about $3-$5 a meal too.
If you go, you will not come back the same and you will do anything within your power to go back again. It's is EXTREMELY addictive. You've been warned.
-GG.[/QUOTE]Recent report, as of late in Angeles City on Fields minimum BF was over $50 not including tip up to $100+ if you choose a "Dancer". If you go down to the Perimeter Bars you may be lucky to find a decent one for "short time" at BF $33 not including tip. I would not say 100% BB but a fair number will do it under the right conditions. Also remember there are "Cherry Girls" (virgins) there so if you eye someone, ask first before you call them. Also, they do work when Aunt Flo is visiting so you may want to inquire about that as well. Just wanted to make sure all know what to expect if you go there.
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[QUOTE=LocoBoy;2499106]Recent report, as of late in Angeles City on Fields minimum BF was over $50 not including tip up to $100+ if you choose a "Dancer". If you go down to the Perimeter Bars you may be lucky to find a decent one for "short time" at BF $33 not including tip. I would not say 100% BB but a fair number will do it under the right conditions. Also remember there are "Cherry Girls" (virgins) there so if you eye someone, ask first before you call them. Also, they do work when Aunt Flo is visiting so you may want to inquire about that as well. Just wanted to make sure all know what to expect if you go there.[/QUOTE]
Barfines range from PHP1000/ USD23.26 to PHP3000/ USD69.77. Depends on the bar and what conglomerate they belong too as well if it's high or low season. Rates change constantly. Rates are pretty straight during the weekends when all the sex tourists fly in from Asia, but are negotiable by about USD5 during the week . Bar owners are pretty much older white retired American, British, and Australian. They tend to be friendly and even more so if you're from their home country. Small bars, better rate. MY RECOMMENDATION: Barfine the ones you are super hot for, it's still cheap by American standards. Get the digits of the ones you want to hit. Text them. Ask them over. They'll stay the day and never ask for a dime. Then pay PHP1000 a day for them.
Also, there is a little known secret. I forget what it's called. Basically it's a lifetime girlfriend fee. You pay around USD200 and for the rest of your life you never have to barfine the girl again. She's always yours. Of course if she doesn't like you, she can refuse and you are expected to tip. Usually at the rate of PHP1000 a day. But that's all between you and her.
Another little known secret - you can return the girls. No shit. Really. I'm not kidding. Scouts honor. If you get her to the room and you guys have a personality conflict, return her. I've even returned one AFTER FUCKING HER and got half my money back. What this means is I had an 18yo 80lb beautiful spinner that rode me like a horse and I still returned her because she didn't want to spend the night. I ended up paying USD9.30 for 30 minutes of pure bragging rights bliss and hidden video. :->
Cherry Girls / virgins are about USD200. Not recommended. You might want the thrill, but do you really think you're going to have good sex from a girl who's never done it before? You want the ones that are not old and haggard that know how to jump on top and ride!
Worried about safety? Girls go for a weekly "health check" (OB pussy check) paid for by the bars. If they fail, they can't work. STDs happen but are rare and tend to the easy ones to get rid of. Also every girl where's a PHOTO ID with her FULL NAME and what city/province she is from. Nothing to worry about.
BTW: Guys, try to imagine this, there are multiple bars (maybe just under 10) that routinely have 200-300 girls working a night. They do stage shows of about 40 girls at a time and keep rotating. There are a TON of girls there and, if you like Asians, guaranteed you'll fall in love MANY times.
If you're going to go, join www.philippines-addicts.com for more info
PSA over. Now go get you AND ME a plane ticket out of this shithole and to pussy central!
We now return you to your regularly scheduled old overweight overpaid ****** already in progress.......
Converted to Perverted!
-GG.
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I hope Sheri gives the ok for new customers.
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[QUOTE=GreboGuru;2499160]Barfines range from PHP1000/ USD23.26 to PHP3000/ USD69.77. Depends on the bar and what conglomerate they belong too as well if it's high or low season. Rates change constantly. Rates are pretty straight during the weekends when all the sex tourists fly in from Asia, but are negotiable by about USD5 during the week . Bar owners are pretty much older white retired American, British, and Australian. They tend to be friendly and even more so if you're from their home country. Small bars, better rate. MY RECOMMENDATION: Barfine the ones you are super hot for, it's still cheap by American standards. Get the digits of the ones you want to hit. Text them. Ask them over. They'll stay the day and never ask for a dime. Then pay PHP1000 a day for them.
Also, there is a little known secret. I forget what it's called. Basically it's a lifetime girlfriend fee. You pay around USD200 and for the rest of your life you never have to barfine the girl again. She's always yours. Of course if she doesn't like you, she can refuse and you are expected to tip. Usually at the rate of PHP1000 a day. But that's all between you and her.
Another little known secret - you can return the girls. No shit. Really. I'm not kidding. Scouts honor. If you get her to the room and you guys have a personality conflict, return her. I've even returned one AFTER FUCKING HER and got half my money back. What this means is I had an 18yo 80lb beautiful spinner that rode me like a horse and I still returned her because she didn't want to spend the night. I ended up paying USD9.30 for 30 minutes of pure bragging rights bliss and hidden video. :->
Cherry Girls / virgins are about USD200. Not recommended. You might want the thrill, but do you really think you're going to have good sex from a girl who's never done it before? You want the ones that are not old and haggard that know how to jump on top and ride!
Worried about safety? Girls go for a weekly "health check" (OB pussy check) paid for by the bars. If they fail, they can't work. STDs happen but are rare and tend to the easy ones to get rid of. Also every girl where's a PHOTO ID with her FULL NAME and what city/province she is from. Nothing to worry about.
BTW: Guys, try to imagine this, there are multiple bars (maybe just under 10) that routinely have 200-300 girls working a night. They do stage shows of about 40 girls at a time and keep rotating. There are a TON of girls there and, if you like Asians, guaranteed you'll fall in love MANY times.
If you're going to go, join www.philippines-addicts.com for more info
PSA over. Now go get you AND ME a plane ticket out of this shithole and to pussy central!
We now return you to your regularly scheduled old overweight overpaid ****** already in progress.......
Converted to Perverted!
-GG.[/QUOTE]My God, I just googled Angeles City, Philippines and the images that came up made up my mind, I need to plan a trip here LOL, at first I was aiming for Tiajuana because it was closer since I'm in SoCal but I don't know now. Is it dangerous for first time travellers to go there, are their tour guides or any recommendations you have as far as trip packages etc. I'm actually pretty serious I am saving up now to go here!