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I know where you are talking but I've never ventured in. Can you pm me with more details.
So I found myself in LPcnty again. I will try and put more details here as I guess I didn't realize the PMs I would get over the last one. I will leave the name out but with a little effort you can figure out what spot it was.
So I had a couple of hours in between calls and thought what to do. What to do. HHmmm welp guess ill get a massage. LOL don't judge me.
So I thought ok, I want to talk to that girl about a couple things anyway I will just get a massage and shoot the shit while we are getting the massage. So I go. Ring the bell, a couple minutes and the door opens. DAMN IT not the same girl. So we go in the room and I have an older shorter lady said her name was Sophie. Still a rockin body and not terrible to look at. Again very nice short dress on and I'm thinking dang the women here at least take the time to dress up nice here.
So she says you ever been here before. I said yes and told here when and she looked at me like really and I said yes really. I said I had time to kill and I wanted to talk to the girl I saw last visit so I figured I would just get a massage. Ok she not here right now. Ok so ill get a massage. You want shower? Sure why not, I didn't get it yesterday so lets do it. You didn't get shower yesterday? No, I thought I just took a shower I didn't need another one. So ya lets do it. Holy hell I will never pass that up again! I'm lead down the hall to another room all tile with a table and I'm thinking what the hell? So I lay down and get a nifty shower front and back and then standing up. Now I'm thinking, why has someone not told me about this? I have been doing my own showers for years and this is way better.
I get toweled off and start heading back to the room and she says no hunny, you go to sauna for a few minuets. WHAT? Ok. Lead me to another room with a full sauna and I sit in there for a few minuets and she opens the door. Are you ready now? No I could stay in here all day. Well if you want to use your 30 minutes in here you can but. I said ok massage time. So we are talking during the massage and she asks what I got last visit. I said well I don't want to speak out of line but I was pretty impressed with what I got last visit. She said who did you have, I said I thought it was Li but I was more than a little side tracked when she mentioned her name. She says I think it was Tia. I said hell I don't know.
So she said what do think I said what ever, I don't know that all the equipment is working again yet. But go for it. I said I like to be considerate to you so if there is a yellow pages in here I will need to see it before my fingers can do the walking. With in seconds I saw the yellow pages, the full city addition of the yellow pages. So ok I know where things stand. I found the artillery section and check out the torpedos, checked out the bombay doors on both sides of the plane. And we did discover that the equipment was fully operational.
Although she never asked for anything I did make a nice donation to a local charity and after that I didn't even have to dress myself. First time I can remember that I didn't have to tie my own shoes. Got a water and a nice smooch on the way out.
You don't hear from me again, you can assume that I passed way in an AMP somewhere in this world.
So this real messed with my mind.
And seriously I have posted to much and going to slow down a bit now that I have visited all but a couple places once.
Anyway after all the festivities this week I thought man I just need to relax. Do I need to tell you what I did? I didn't think so.
So anyway I go see my favorite girl Coco over at NH. I think I have come to the realization that there are no extras to be had over there but that's ok. Some times you just want a Damn good massage and Cocos always been my favorite. So I go see her. She says do you want to try the new girl today. I said well I was hopping for you but what ever.
So she comes in and we get all ready and I'm face down on the table and she says. So. How did you like Sun spa?. I said WTF? Yes actually said WTF? And she giggles. I was like well it is a completely different experience over there. How did you know? Giggles and says I'm not telling. So now I'm racking my brain trying to figure it out. Coco knows my first name but the other girls don't. If she reads this board I don't think she could identify me, until this post anyway, which really isn't a big deal.
In the mean time the new girl comes in and it turns into like a 4 hands training session which was nice but I really need to learn their language so I can figure out what they were talking about.
So now I'm thinking are the two of them going to torcher me? Nah I wouldn't of ever said anything bad about Coco so now I'm back to how in the hell she knew I was over there.
We always cut the massage short by like 5 or 10 minutes so we can just sit there and shoot the shit and I finally said you had to be there. That's the only way you would know. She giggled and again said I'm not telling. So I said well let me say this. If you ever decide to do those kind of massages just let me know I'll be the first inline.
So I assume that while we are here talking about them. They are somewhere talking about us.
I have two observations.
1) your post on Sun Spa makes me think they have changed their model. For years they were very hard negotiators and demanded cash upfront before any fun. I got fed up with that aspect and quit going. You said no negotiations beforehand on either visit. If they have moved to that and now trust a monger to give a fair tip for services received, I'll go back regularly again.
2). You have been to Osceola three times with no playtime after the flip? That is also a change. Is this true for other guys? I always got a good massage there and left happy. But this was before the trouble in Elkhart at their sister spa.
Bonus observation: you are running thru some serious cash with your new hobby. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Noobie67;2714295]So this real messed with my mind.
And seriously I have posted to much and going to slow down a bit now that I have visited all but a couple places once.
Anyway after all the festivities this week I thought man I just need to relax. Do I need to tell you what I did? I didn't think so.
So anyway I go see my favorite girl Coco over at NH. I think I have come to the realization that there are no extras to be had over there but that's ok. Some times you just want a Damn good massage and Cocos always been my favorite. So I go see her. She says do you want to try the new girl today. I said well I was hopping for you but what ever.
So she comes in and we get all ready and I'm face down on the table and she says. So. How did you like Sun spa?. I said WTF? Yes actually said WTF? And she giggles. I was like well it is a completely different experience over there. How did you know? Giggles and says I'm not telling. So now I'm racking my brain trying to figure it out. Coco knows my first name but the other girls don't. If she reads this board I don't think she could identify me, until this post anyway, which really isn't a big deal.
In the mean time the new girl comes in and it turns into like a 4 hands training session which was nice but I really need to learn their language so I can figure out what they were talking about.
So now I'm thinking are the two of them going to torcher me? Nah I wouldn't of ever said anything bad about Coco so now I'm back to how in the hell she knew I was over there.
We always cut the massage short by like 5 or 10 minutes so we can just sit there and shoot the shit and I finally said you had to be there. That's the only way you would know. She giggled and again said I'm not telling. So I said well let me say this. If you ever decide to do those kind of massages just let me know I'll be the first inline.
So I assume that while we are here talking about them. They are somewhere talking about us.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PuttPutt;2714993]2). You have been to Osceola three times with no playtime after the flip? That is also a change. Is this true for other guys? I always got a good massage there and left happy. But this was before the trouble in Elkhart at their sister spa.[/QUOTE]I've been to Osceola 4 or 5 times and have left happy every time as well. The last time I went was (I believe) right before the sister spa got in trouble, not sure if they've changed because of that.
I can also ad that I have always left happy when I have visited this place. Haven't been to sun in awhile always left happy but always had to tip before hand.
[QUOTE=CaSp95;2715114]I've been to Osceola 4 or 5 times and have left happy every time as well. The last time I went was (I believe) right before the sister spa got in trouble, not sure if they've changed because of that.[/QUOTE].
That is correct. Both times I've been there, no negotiations up front, during or after.
I won't tell you how many times I've been to NH in the OC but it is more than you stated. LOL and have never got what I really wanted there. I still love the place though.
Yes I have invested a little chunk in the hobby in a short period of time but that was the plan. By the end of the month though it will go to a much more reasonable level. LOL this was my present to myself. LOL.
[QUOTE=PuttPutt;2714993]I have two observations.
1) your post on Sun Spa makes me think they have changed their model. For years they were very hard negotiators and demanded cash upfront before any fun. I got fed up with that aspect and quit going. You said no negotiations beforehand on either visit. If they have moved to that and now trust a monger to give a fair tip for services received, I'll go back regularly again.
2). You have been to Osceola three times with no playtime after the flip? That is also a change. Is this true for other guys? I always got a good massage there and left happy. But this was before the trouble in Elkhart at their sister spa.
Bonus observation: you are running thru some serious cash with your new hobby. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
So it is now time to slow a bit and go into a more reasonable schedule of visits. But I felt the need to post one more time.
The AMP Newbie award goes to.
Spa of the year.
Sun spa MC. Saw Tia today. Was the second time for her. Great girl! Both girls that I have had there were great. Actually had a really nice conversation with her today. If your a jerky she will you she no speak english. But she actually speaks pretty good english. LOL. Anyway with the extras like a table shower and full running sauna. No negotiations and just an overall great time.
Honorable mention.
New Horizon OC. Even though currently you can't get everything you want Coco and the girls still show you a good time.
Runner up and best tease award.
Best on 933 . Another good spot the only real downfall to this place is the girls don't seem to get very personable with you. Otherwise this is still a pretty good spot.
New impression would be next on 933 they tried hard there but again just couldn't really connect with them. And multiple times the suggested helping myself out. Ya no that's not what I'm here for.
Top oriental. . nice girls but again just didn't connect with them. I don't really like the location either.
Any not mentioned are either not worth mentioning or I haven't been there. I was originally going to try and hit them all but I have found my top two and it's time to slow down.
Oh and I did mention to Tia about how Coco knew I was over there and she just giggled.
If you are talking about coco at nh that has a low and velvety voice, often says Sir, is short and skinny, she has excellent English and probably reads this site. She knows how to please. Show where it hurts more clearly and she will help release the tension effectively. She is a vet and deserves a solid tip.
Never been there. The stories from years ago put me off.
Plus back then it was a mixed staff from what I read.
I am not into diversity. Asian is plenty good, no need for any others.
I need a solid massage, no joke, or I would not go.
I don't have time to waste.
Since the I read here that new management took over best, I returned.
I have always enjoyed the granger outfit and when they took over Top on hickory I tried it and was pleased.
The 2 ladies who are at top really give me great massage. The one who wears heels speaks English well. I have lots of aches and pains and granger top and best all seem to share my favorite style. Which is basically "tui na. " Anyhow I tried Best again- with the name of two diff girls on the mama L. 's recommendation and I was most pleased. Any of these three places provide solid value and consistent release of built up tensions.
I never "negotiate" anything as I would consider that improper. They know when I come in that I will tip well. I don't know how they know this but they do. I try and match their generosity with my own.
I find nearly every masseuse I have had here at an AMP the past year to be very kind. The temperament of these ladies who work with the three places under same management is always professional and most satisfactory. I prefer all the ladies to be at least 35 and over 40 is most preferable. I want a lady who knows what to do, who can clear blockages and get the energy moving. The last thing I will say is that my most amazing moments have probably been when they do my feet. No kidding I just love that.
What I am getting from noob, and his many good reports, is what I have been telling people for years, and that these places are not just jack-shacks.
Maybe they are in other places around the country but in St Joe county they are serious massage providers.
The style of massage is different from a westerner. It is certainly not for puritans. But are we not told all the time that we are to appreciate "cultural diversity?" AMPs are my dose of it and I consider myself fortunate to participate.
I recently read a "study" of this website that was utterly judgmental trash. I won't link to it, as it was filled with puritanical feminist claptrap. You can imagine.
Here however is the counterpoint to this. Sex is part of life. Not all sex follows the path that feminists and puritans approve. But we are people and sex is part of life. An important part. What happens in a private room is nobody's business? That's the rule for homosexuals but what about heteros. So there is all this "policing" nonsense.
Read this and it will "blow" your mind about the therapeutic value of sex.
[URL]http://bioethics.northwestern.edu/atrium/articles/issue12/peace.html[/URL]
Jim your right. I have not had one bad experience anywhere I have been and tip all favorably. Depending on what your looking for each place has their own little twist. But I have gotten a great massage every where I have been.
New horizons has a new girl now along with Coco. She does a fantastic job!
Don't worry Coco. Your still my girl! And I know now that you are watching. LOL.
Please give Noobie a HJ! I think he deserves it by now. He is your biggest fan. Treat him well please.
[QUOTE=PuttPutt;2720703]Please give Noobie a HJ! I think he deserves it by now. He is your biggest fan. Treat him well please.[/QUOTE]HA! I'm pushing the LIKE button.
Ever had someone in another room freak you out enough that you just said no not today?
WTF. That dude ruined my whole day. Just the way he talked and conducted himself made me think popo. Ggrrr.
This could have been a glorious day too.
Any new talent at best? In the past week.
[QUOTE=Noobie67;2719941]Jim your right. I have not had one bad experience anywhere I have been and tip all favorably. Depending on what your looking for each place has their own little twist. But I have gotten a great massage every where I have been.
New horizons has a new girl now along with Coco. She does a fantastic job!
Don't worry Coco. Your still my girl! And I know now that you are watching. LOL.[/QUOTE]I had a girl named Anna last week. Very nice.
[QUOTE=Noobie67;2727029]Ever had someone in another room freak you out enough that you just said no not today?
WTF. That dude ruined my whole day. Just the way he talked and conducted himself ....[/QUOTE]Describe conduct, identify location? Without violating forum rules on personally identifiable information of course.
Some people may wonder why go to a place like this, it's all men, must be naughty, etc. Putting aside the purittanical views of those inclined to such nasty cynicism, here is a thought about the alternatives.
I read a good online thing about massage to relieve pain.
Www. Massage* com / benefits-of-massage-therapy / manage-pain-of-chronic-conditions. Aspx.
(I blanked out the name because I don't want to talk about any particular place, just generalities here).
I read that and thought hmm, that's great, gee I just saw such a place like at the mall.
I bought some massages from the fancy place in the mall. I gave them as a gift, didn't use. But here are a couple downsides that I learned.
1--required to sign a silly contract for package deals that smells like one of those bogus health club deals. SPARE ME. I don't want to be a member I just want a massage. If they are going to make me sign some fancy fine print bs and waivers count me out. I'd rather show up at the asian place and pay cash and skip the paperwork.
2-- 80 and hour versus 60. Isn't this enough a reason right there?
3-- difficulty scheduling. Easier to walk into the asian massage place.
4-- frou frou. Who needs to pay for the decorations. Sparse decorations as fine so long as the place is clean and hygenic. All asian places I have seen here have been clean and hygenic. I will say sometimes they smell like they just had lunch but that is not a matter of hygiene.
5-- quality. Let's get this clear, these asian women are trained in massage too, and they have experience, and experience at bodywork mostly on men. Men and women are different, men may require more pressure or may have more problems related to occupational hazards. These experienced asian women are quite simply better at what we need. Nothing against our fine american women but the experience level and methods are superior at the asian establishments.
Now that is enough right there to keep me going to asian places. Any other matters regardless.
I can't speak to elkhart county, because I never go over there. But in st joe county, if LE is thinking of maybe harassing these businesses, they need to know that we customers are citizens too and have a legit use and will vote and complain and speak our minds. Personally I could care less who knows that I go to them, I tell everybody I know how great they are.
[QUOTE=JimSteele;2729995]Describe conduct, identify location? Without violating forum rules on personally identifiable information of course.[/QUOTE]Coco knows and could tell you about it. He set my alarm off and I think he had her on alert too. These girls aren't dumb. They know how to handle situations. But this was an older guy. At the time I had the new girl. I think her name is anna.
Anyway this guy came in and was loud from the time he walked through the door. Kind of passed me off cause I was getting 4 hands at the time.
Coco took him to the room across from mine and he was fishing from the word go and doing it loudly. Talking about it was his first time there but use to go to the elkhart one all the time. Then I could hear him talking about money.
Anna doesn't speak a lot of English but she knew I had become uncomfortable. Coco came back into my room a couple times and I told her that dude isn't right. She agreed. But again she isn't dumb and knows how to handle things but the the ass clown ruined my day that day. LOL.
You're right they are clever and capable of handling oddballs.
I think it must be part of the AMP training curriculum.
Loud is bad form. Maybe he was just an idiot.
The average cop is not that stupid, if he was trying to entrap, likely it would be subtler.
I think probably just a loudmouth fool.
Fools & nuts should stay away from these places. They ruin the vibe.
The only transaction I have ever done is the hourly rate for the massage.
I always leave a tip, and it just depends on whether or not I am pleased.
Simple as that.
Purely customary and voluntary gratuity.
Also, I kind of dislike the setup of The Osceola place.
But nothing against the ladies.
I had a great scalp& skull massage recently. Got to love the scalp scratching, wow.
When they press the occipital process in back- I think that's what it's called -- I just feel the tension draining out.
Of my neck. On the flip when they tug the skull backward by the bridge. Eyebrow area- same effect. Really straightens me out.
Well. Started in Osceola. Older Mamasan that didn't do much for me and a wait so I moved on. Any input on the girls that are here during the day? The 1st time I went I had a cute 30 +/- yo but it has been a little "rough" lately. ? Then Granger and a 20 minute wait. I figured I could be on 933 be then so I went on over. My day turned into a 2 hr excursion!
Yeeshee? Was nice but nothing to make me want to return. Were are all the younger, frisky ladies? Man, I need to find one steady friend, me thinks. Feel free to PM if you like.
[QUOTE=IrishFan;2735950]Well. Started in Osceola. Older Mamasan that didn't do much for me and a wait so I moved on. Any input on the girls that are here during the day? The 1st time I went I had a cute 30 +/- yo but it has been a little "rough" lately. ? Then Granger and a 20 minute wait. I figured I could be on 933 be then so I went on over. My day turned into a 2 hr excursion!
Yeeshee? Was nice but nothing to make me want to return. Were are all the younger, frisky ladies? Man, I need to find one steady friend, me thinks. Feel free to PM if you like.[/QUOTE]Well this is a place this newbie knows a little about. What time were you there? NH in OC is one of my favorite places. I go during the day. Have never seen an older mamasan there. It's always coco who is a late 20's little hottie. And I believe I was told (I think it's anna) the taller hottie is cocos sister. So unless someone was sick and they had to bring in a sub or something. From what I have seen, NH has the two hottest. Then probably Sun the probably best. I MO.
[QUOTE=IrishFan;2735950]Well. Started in Osceola. Older Mamasan that didn't do much for me and a wait so I moved on. Any input on the girls that are here during the day? The 1st time I went I had a cute 30 +/- yo but it has been a little "rough" lately. ? Then Granger and a 20 minute wait. I figured I could be on 933 be then so I went on over. My day turned into a 2 hr excursion!
Yeeshee? Was nice but nothing to make me want to return. Were are all the younger, frisky ladies? Man, I need to find one steady friend, me thinks. Feel free to PM if you like.[/QUOTE]If you pick one where you think you might be interested in making a friend, try offering her a few extras, like offering to run her to the store or on an errand she mentions during the massage. After establishing a friendly relationship try moving forward. Due to the current climate, don't try for something in house, offer to make her dinner or something at your place, provided this is an option for you. Otherwise try a night out away from the shop. One warning, she might decide to try and take this farther and then its your call. Plenty of other posts on here about getting to close to a provider.
Had one of the worst massages if my life at Best Chinese. I have never had a problem there before until now. I had a new girl lead me into a room who I thought was not very attractive at all. (I hate to judge because most of these girls are really nice) to top things off she didn't have a very good attitude. Her massage was very rough and downright painful and there was no tease before the flip. After the flip it was as if she was in a race to the finish line. I tipped 20 and will refuse to see her again. I hope this isn't the help I can expect to find there now because I will go elsewhere.
Got to meet Anna at NH. Good strong hands and very nice. Access to the twins.
CoCo is still my superstar but will repeat.
[QUOTE=IrishFan;2738640]Got to meet Anna at NH. Good strong hands and very nice. Access to the twins.
CoCo is still my superstar but will repeat.[/QUOTE]Say wwwhhaatttt? LOL.
In 2008, there were no AMPs in the South Bend area. You had to go to Michigan City or Lake Station for a massage. That changed around 2010 when Judy opened her place on Michigan Avenue. Now she has sold it and who knows if it is any good, nobody posts about it. Then City Massage on 933 had its glorious run, wow what a great time there. Now there are about ten places to choose from All are reliable and safe as far as I am concerned. We all have our favorites. Or course, if you are a trusted regular, things open up. But compared to a few years ago, South Bend is not bad at all for the AMP scene.
[QUOTE=FurFreak;2738403]Had one of the worst massages if my life at Best Chinese. I have never had a problem there before until now. I had a new girl lead me into a room who I thought was not very attractive at all. (I hate to judge because most of these girls are really nice) to top things off she didn't have a very good attitude. Her massage was very rough and downright painful and there was no tease before the flip. After the flip it was as if she was in a race to the finish line. I tipped 20 and will refuse to see her again. I hope this isn't the help I can expect to find there now because I will go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I think I must've had that same therapist, except that my dream was worse than yours. She was demanding for tips throughout the massage. Her massage was as bad as you describe. I let her know that I didn't like it. Left without leaving a tip! If I go back there and she is there, I'll ask for another, or just walk out.
Fur Freak and Aniles, thanks for the reports. It's great to know who to avoid as much as it is to know who is a good therapist. There are two Best Chinese places, one in Granger and one on 933 near the state line. Which one is she at? If you don't mind PMing me a name, that would be helpful too. They change therapists frequently at both spots, so it's hard to figure out which one you guys went to.
[QUOTE=Aniles;2740135]I think I must've had that same therapist, except that my dream was worse than yours. She was demanding for tips throughout the massage. Her massage was as bad as you describe. I let her know that I didn't like it. Left without leaving a tip! If I go back there and she is there, I'll ask for another, or just walk out.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully I did this right. [blue][Deleted by Admin]
No you didn't.
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It would let me do the post quoted from below.
Could you PM with what was wrong. Was I just because it was in Chinese? I didn't see a rule about only posting in English but if I missed that I apologize.
Anyone know if sophia still at nh in osceiola? If so compare notes on other girls, coco and anna if you dream of them. I have good dream of sophia, pm me.
[QUOTE=PuttPutt;2740799]Fur Freak and Aniles, thanks for the reports. It's great to know who to avoid as much as it is to know who is a good therapist. There are two Best Chinese places, one in Granger and one on 933 near the state line. Which one is she at? If you don't mind PMing me a name, that would be helpful too. They change therapists frequently at both spots, so it's hard to figure out which one you guys went to.[/QUOTE]It was the one on 933. Usually a great place though.
Just because I have been getting some PMs on this. Guys there was nothing detailed or anything in that post. I was simply telling coco, thank you for the birthday massage. I had written it in Chinese as I know she browses the board on occasion. I can only assume I broke a rule by writing it in another language.
[QUOTE=Noobie67;2745187]Just because I have been getting some PMs on this. Guys there was nothing detailed or anything in that post. I was simply telling coco, thank you for the birthday massage. I had written it in Chinese as I know she browses the board on occasion. I can only assume I broke a rule by writing it in another language.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules[/URL]#postingguidelines.
Posting not in English is listed under Spam in that guideline. I suspect that was it. I'm guessing that when you wrote you hoped you got that right, you were talking about technically pasting in the Chinese characters, and when Admin2 responded that you didn't, he was talking about that policy.
Only a guess, though. Probably not worth spending any more pixels on.
[QUOTE=SBFriend;2745818][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules[/URL]#postingguidelines.
Posting not in English is listed under Spam in that guideline. I suspect that was it. I'm guessing that when you wrote you hoped you got that right, you were talking about technically pasting in the Chinese characters, and when Admin2 responded that you didn't, he was talking about that policy.
Only a guess, though. Probably not worth spending any more pixels on.[/QUOTE]Aahh good catch, I didn't look in that section. Not that it was a big deal or anything, it was just driving me crazy on trying to find it. HA!
Thanks!
I decided to give it another chance since I don't give up very easily. When I walked in I saw the same girl. From my look I think she could tell I was not going to use her. Another girl named Jessie led me back instead. I did not recognize her either so I was nervous. I can tell you this she is probably now my new favorite. She has a unique soft yet hard touch that she can turn on and off at any second. The tease before the flip made we just about jump out of my skin. I highly recommend. I wish I knew the other girls name but I don't.