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[QUOTE=John Kelly]What he said. Sad. Very, very sad. They'll get the Immigration folks riding hard on a few Asian ladies, but the millions and millions of illegal hispanics get a free ride because George Bush tries to curry their favor and get them to vote Republican. This must be Oz.[/QUOTE]Ummmmm, Mr. Kelly, you may wish to come up with a different argument, since illegal aliens can't register to vote.
DB
[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Ummmmm, Mr. Kelly, you may wish to come up with a different argument, since illegal aliens can't register to vote.
DB[/QUOTE]Oh, really? Why can't they vote? Because it is illegal? That'll stop them for sure, just like it did from entering the country. You could see by their March on Washington waving Mexican flags how concerned they were about being arrested.
Since the news reports said that the investigation has been going on for 2-3 years, you would have to go back to posts prior to that time to see if there was any info here that Leo might have used to pique his interest. Also, the AMP on post 211 is not one of the ones that got busted. "My Soothing Touch" is referred to on post 211. "Soothing Asian Massage" got busted. Two different places, one on 50 west of 436, the other on 50 east of 436. Beijing Spa was on west Colonial in Pine Hills and is totally different than the one on east Colonial. So while your theory may be correct, your supporting facts are not.
BTW the Easter Bunny comes next week.
[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]I figured that once and for all, these busts would prove correct all of those who claim the LEO uses this board to gain the information needed to target who they should bust. I figured it must be all our fault.
But when I read the names of the establishments that were busted, I was surprised that I did not recognize them.
So I went back for six months and wrote down the name of every single place mentioned in the Massage Parlor Thread.
I counted 25 different establishments named, ranging from only 1 or 2 reports all the way up to the popular favorite, Asahi, with 20 mentions.
News reports list nine places that were busted. Well, eleven actually, but one is the same address with three different names. Another was called "Unknown Business Name."
Eight of the nine busted were never mentioned on USG in the past six months. Not even once.
The one that was busted is the place with multiple names, 6440 E. Colonial Drive. It is known variously as Soothing Asian Massage, Hang Zhou Spa, or Beijing Spa. A grand total of two posts reported on it. Here is the evidence that USG provided to LEO:
1. Post # 211 on 12/19 stated that it has a reputation for being legitimate.
2. Post # 264 on 2/24 stated that the place was locked up.
That is it folks! That is all the USG gave LEO to go on. But for some reason LEO busted these nine places anyway, and [b] ignored the 24 other establishments that have been reported on these boards.[/b]
So it sure seems like those who justify their secrecy under the guise that they are only trying to protect the girls from being busted by LEO have as much evidence to support their argument as the Flat Earth Society does. Zero.
Will they finally admit that it is easier to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny then it is to make a serious argument that sharing information on this board leads to busts by LEO?
I doubt it. Because those who won't share specific info are only in it for themselves. They are takers and users who try to justify their selfishness.
But for those of you who may have been swayed by their misguided arguments, the facts speak for themselves.
[b][red]The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.[/red][/b]
DB[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog][b][red]The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.[/red][/b]
DB[/QUOTE]
Having read your last 25 posts, when are you going to live up to this statement that you so love to share? Jesus, post a report.
All of these MPs combined were only named ONCE in the past six months, not twice, LOL.
I took the information from the WDBO website, which shows Beijing Spa on East Colonial, although it could be wrong: [url]http://580wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/02440_Orlando-Massage-Parlors-Busted_162823.html[/url]
"Soothing Asian Massage; 6440 East Colonial Drive"
"Hang Zhou Spa/Beijing Spa; 6440 East Colonial Drive"
They are also listed at these addresses in post # 344 below.
Now, LEO may have had a good time patronizing these MPs for 2-3 years, but none of us really would believe that they gathered information here on SG that back then and took that long to make a case. Hell, Watergate was solved quicker than that!
Thank you for stating that my theory may be correct. It is. LEO busts whoever they want for political reasons, not because they read something here.
DB
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Having read your last 25 posts, when are you going to live up to this statement that you so love to share? Jesus, post a report.[/QUOTE]You might already know everything contained in this report, but many a new or visiting monger will find it useful: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=511733&postcount=3[/url]
This is of no value to you since you said you don't do the SW thing, but many others might be happy to learn when the stings are scheduled: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=512109&postcount=700[/url]
Two people even thanked me on the board for this follow up information to your post: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=510556&postcount=305[/url]
Here was a tip on how to save $20 at a strip club for anyone who was interested: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=510283&postcount=138[/url]
A direct response to a question about how a specific provider looks: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=504984&postcount=45[/url]
Here is a link that allows people to scan all the photos on CL at a quick glance: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=500366&postcount=182[/url]
Just a small sampling.
As I have stated before, I don't monger in Orlando. Nonetheless, I have done my best to provide useful information to others. And perhaps my little campaign to increase the sharing of info will eventually help everyone.
My real work is done on ISG, where I have filed over 250 reports, with 70 more on Argentina Private. For a little taste people can check out one of my posts on ISG: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=551579&postcount=740[/url] I am attaching a couple of photos below from my last trip so that people can see how different it can be.
I just try to stay in touch and help out when I can here at home.
It is okay if you don't like what I have to say, Sponge. I don't intentionally try to irritate you, but since I do, why don't you just put me on your ignore list?
DB
First post, mainly history of AMPs I've partaken.
I actually did swing by massage buffet, that was busted in the news report. It was a house by the 7/11 kinda by Colonial Lanes. I called the #, they gave me the address, told me it was $50+ for a massage. I knocked, there was a sinny asian girl in her 30s, about a 7 on the amp scale, took me past a few family memebers in the living room , and into the "studio". This was a room with a mattress on the floor, and a dresser with some lotions, paper towels, etc-I was pleased, unlike the chick was when I told her that I was out the door unless she changed the bed linens in front of me. After that we got down to the massage. Not too bad, almost legit until the flip happened. She then told me to give her $100 for a fully-clothed handy. I started the bargaining, and she didn't budge. It didn not appear to be much more on the menu, so I left. I'm sure it would have been an unventful tugjob.
Other jaunts-YMMV:
Bumby-don't remember the girl, but she was short and somewhat white trash-looking. Door fee plus $60 for a handy sans top, with some sweet dirty talk. Other stuff was offered.
Place on Mills NOT next to wally's: 1 for 2. First time I didn't even like the chick too much, I think she thought I was a cop. Second time with Lily, or LeeLee. Awesome, paid for a 1/2 hr, and got HR for 50 or 60 I forget. More was offered.
Capital of Japan: 4 for 4, nothing more than mechanical HR.
All those places in longwood confuse me, I've hit them all and are indiffeent. I recieved HR at one of the three places, can't remember if it was longwood massage, massage studio longwood, or WTF.
New place by Jai-alai: Great massage, with the hot stones. The lady was kind of quick with the HR offer, so I think I missed it. 0 for 1, but all the other reports I would go with over mine.
17/92 in Maitland lace, next to Cheers: 3 for 3, always decent massage, TS, and HR. Nothing more offered.
Anybody hit the Beijing place in WEST colonial? Not many massage places in Pine Hills.
How about the WEkiva massage place that advertises in CL?
[blue]Greetings Dodger Bulldog,
Brilliant research! Simply outstanding!
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]I figured that once and for all, these busts would prove correct all of those who claim the LEO uses this board to gain the information needed to target who they should bust. I figured it must be all our fault.
But when I read the names of the establishments that were busted, I was surprised that I did not recognize them.
So I went back for six months and wrote down the name of every single place mentioned in the Massage Parlor Thread.
I counted 25 different establishments named, ranging from only 1 or 2 reports all the way up to the popular favorite, Asahi, with 20 mentions.
News reports list nine places that were busted. Well, eleven actually, but one is the same address with three different names. Another was called "Unknown Business Name."
Eight of the nine busted were never mentioned on USG in the past six months. Not even once.
The one that was busted is the place with multiple names, 6440 E. Colonial Drive. It is known variously as Soothing Asian Massage, Hang Zhou Spa, or Beijing Spa. A grand total of two posts reported on it. Here is the evidence that USG provided to LEO:
1. Post # 211 on 12/19 stated that it has a reputation for being legitimate.
2. Post # 264 on 2/24 stated that the place was locked up.
That is it folks! That is all the USG gave LEO to go on. But for some reason LEO busted these nine places anyway, and [b] ignored the 24 other establishments that have been reported on these boards.[/b]
So it sure seems like those who justify their secrecy under the guise that they are only trying to protect the girls from being busted by LEO have as much evidence to support their argument as the Flat Earth Society does. Zero.
Will they finally admit that it is easier to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny then it is to make a serious argument that sharing information on this board leads to busts by LEO?
I doubt it. Because those who won't share specific info are only in it for themselves. They are takers and users who try to justify their selfishness.
But for those of you who may have been swayed by their misguided arguments, the facts speak for themselves.
[b][red]The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.[/red][/b]
DB[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings Dodger Bulldog,
Brilliant research! Simply outstanding!
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Thank you very much, Jackson.
I appreciate that Snake 12 found a legitimate correction, but it only strengthened my point. The basic conclusion stands up to all scrutiny.
I wish I could get down to visit you in Buenos Aires again this year, but my friends talked me into finally giving Rio a try. So keep the Porteñas warm for me, okay?
As I mentioned to you the last time we met at El Alamo, I can NEVER thank you enough. Your boards have literally changed my life!
DB
I drove by Long Quan Massage; 889 East Semoran Blvd., Casselberry today and it is still open for business.
[QUOTE=Digger Blue]Checked out Asahi yesterday on a buddy's suggestion. Saw Mimi, a pretty cute Korean girl. Probably nothing new to anyone here: $80 for the hour, TS with some decent junk scrubbing, poor massage, and a handshake at the end. I doubt I'll go back, unless anyone here thinks a second trip might be worth it. Will probably stick with my favorite Candy at the Big Japanese City from now on though.[/QUOTE]Where is Big Japanese City?
[QUOTE=Templar007]Where is Big Japanese City?[/QUOTE]That would be Tokyo in Longwood.
[QUOTE=Jaloochapurr]
PM me if you are serious, but I will look at your past posts we do not want LEO hurting inocent girls trying to help out hard working men now do we?[/QUOTE]This guy told us what was going to happen, that the bust was on. A week before it happened. Now, how do you think he knew that?
Anyway, Beery gives his top people six months pay to retire and gives the shaft to honest hardworking girls, billy club shaft, I mean. It doesn't look like a very big bust to me for three years work. But it shows that you can't afford to look too successful in that line of work, it makes puritans nervous.
[Quote:=Originally Posted by Digger Blue]Checked out Asahi yesterday on a buddy's suggestion. Saw Mimi, a pretty cute Korean girl. Probably nothing new to anyone here: $80 for the hour, TS with some decent junk scrubbing, poor massage, and a handshake at the end. I doubt I'll go back, unless anyone here thinks a second trip might be worth it. Will probably stick with my favorite Candy at the Big Japanese City from now on though.[/quote][QUOTE=Templar007]Where is Big Japanese City?[/QUOTE]Keep your eyes open, you'll see it.
Hi guys,
I need a little bit if help, does anyone knows a place where they offer a f/s, please let me know, because I been looking for, but nothing aroun, just hand shakes, thank you!
Thanks. Been there and done that and got the teeshirt. ;-)
Sorry guys! This is not a typical report. It’s a request.
We love sex with women. We are hunters :). We're on the same side, even if we disagree. Let's respect each other and tolerate others opinions and views. If you do not like someone views then move on to another's.
Jackson has created a great place for us all. It's my favorite hang out. The forum is like life: you can ignore someone but it's disrespectful. Who knows may be this member you ignore will post a warning report that will save you from a scam.
The forum is built on contributions. I am not taking sides of how far to be open or not. I would just ask new members to contribute and read well the forum.
with respect,
J
[quote] Sorry guys! This is not a typical report. It’s a request.
We love sex with women. We are hunters . We're on the same side, even if we disagree. Let's respect each other and tolerate others opinions and views. If you do not like someone views then move on to another's.
Jackson has created a great place for us all. It's my favorite hang out. The forum is like life: you can ignore someone but it's disrespectful. Who knows may be this member you ignore will post a warning report that will save you from a scam.
The forum is built on contributions. I am not taking sides of how far to be open or not. I would just ask new members to contribute and read well the forum.
with respect,
J[/quote]
Agreed.
Admittedly, my own postings have been scarce and usually low on the information side for a few reasons. Personal level of comfort being one, and a lack of worthwhile experience being the other. I have had many similar experiences to other posters, and as I am not one to beat an already downed and bleeding horse, I simply choose to stay silent. In other cases, any info I have gathered is typically lacking in relevant detail, so again I stay silent. I attempt to avoid using this board as a record of personal conquests. I'm sure you guys are not interested in hearing success stories, unless it can help you to your own success. What I do try to share is failures, to help others avoid their own failures. If this viewpoint is in err, my apologies.
and on an unrelated topic:
Curious to see how the recent stings will affect customer service at other AMPs around the city.
Visited here a few times with success in the past, but last two trips through were different. White girl gave great massage but was strictly professional. She claims she had been there for years but I had never seen her before. She offered nothing except a professional massage. Just curious if others have had the same experience at this establishment.
If you can't figure that one out, you aren't thinking clearly. As for my experience, I always get the hand shake with a smile on the flip. No set price, but gratitude is expected. YMMV. I do wish there was more on the menu.
[QUOTE=Jay7005]Visited here a few times with success in the past, but last two trips through were different. White girl gave great massage but was strictly professional. She claims she had been there for years but I had never seen her before. She offered nothing except a professional massage. Just curious if others have had the same experience at this establishment.[/QUOTE]
Jay - Have seen no mention of the place on this board in my almost 2 years on the forum - although I've been interested - and the 1 PM I solicited on it said it was legit. So I haven't tried it out myself. Would certainly invite you to PM me to discuss if you'd like.
TV
Another Parlor raid was mentioned in the news this morning , Serenity? on oBT? A Gloria was mentioned, Sorry for being vauge, it was quick they might repeat it.
[QUOTE=Trekei]Another Parlor raid was mentioned in the news this morning , Serenity? on oBT? A Gloria was mentioned, Sorry for being vauge, it was quick they might repeat it.[/QUOTE]Checked the Sentinel site, and the other local news websites, but couldn't find any stories. Anyone else?
Also, without even naming AMPs, has anyone visited since the initial raids in Orlando? Any change in services? I was planning to go this weekend, but was looking for a little more than a good massage. I was just worried that the shops may cut back on "extras, " and be legit until things cooled off.
[QUOTE=Trekei]Another Parlor raid was mentioned in the news this morning , Serenity? on oBT? A Gloria was mentioned, Sorry for being vauge, it was quick they might repeat it.[/QUOTE]Has anyone else heard anything about this? I checked the Sentinel website, and other local news yesterday, but didn't see anything.
Also, even without naming AMPs, has anyone gone to visit since the initial raids in Orlando? Just wondering if they are still offering their normal services? I was worried that the "extras" might be taken away for a while, and that the shops may go legit (even for just the short term). I was hoping to visit an AMP this weekend, and would like to have more than JUST a massage, you know?
Thanks,
LT
EDIT: Sorry about the duplicate post...took forever for them both to make it on the board.
[QUOTE=Trekei]Another Parlor raid was mentioned in the news this morning , Serenity? on oBT? A Gloria was mentioned, Sorry for being vauge, it was quick they might repeat it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that was Serenity Spa on north 441. Actually, it wasn't a raid, just the arrest in Georgia of the former owner We were all disappointed when she sold a few months ago and closed down. It was a fun place to go - I wonder where Cookie is now. . .
Does anybody have any news on the effects of the raid on the AMPs in town? I'm a little leery of paying admission for just a massage. PM me if you prefer.
Ron
Stopped by at the beer flavored massage house. Nana was excellent. Tipped .8 for an excellent massage + the usual hourly door fee. A bit pricey, but I was in a good mood. No FS and doubt it is on menu, but YMMV.
Visited Orlando recently and after debating Asahi vs Ginza chose a visit to Ginza. Much of my experience could be a ditto from a couple previous posts. Had Mimi...what a cutie! Great personality, cute face, and a body I would like to sample. Thorough shower experience, in fact was one of best I have had. Got the hot stones treatment, a first for me. Gentlemen....I can honestly say you will not get a better massage anywhere! Granted, extras may be better elsewhere, but the massage alone will make me a return customer. Don't misunderstand...entire body was happy and relaxed when I left...but no looky, no touchy (did cop a quick feel of Mimi's beautiful top). One other ditto of previous posts...as I was leaving, met Lily! What a mamasan! Gonna try to get a session with her next time...can only fantasize until then...she is hot!
Another successful visit to Ashai. From the many positive reviews I requested Nana and left very happy. TS was spot on. Got all the nooks and crannies. Massage was good. She is a back walker which i dont mind in small doses. She walked for almost the entire massage. On the flip, good handshake w/ ball and anus tickiling. She has a great natural rack w/ nice nipps. .80 + .60 grease. Left happy and clean.
Be safe
BB
TIA. Other options worth trying in the area? Good TS is a major plus.
Frink
Made yet another trip to Asahi yesterday. I saw Judy this time. I had not seen her since my first trip there back in December.
She has improved her technique a lot since then. She isn't the best looking catch there, but not too bad. She gave the best table shower that I have ever had. Actually it was kind of like a massage and shower all at the same time.
When we went back for the actual massage, it was ok. Maybe it was because I asked for a medium instead of a strong massage, but she just doesn't put much effort into it. Still, she covers all the areas nicely and seems to really like playing with your ass a lot.
On the flip, she got undressed (completely) and was rubbing all over. She seems to enjoy DATY. Even seemed to want a bit more after I got off.
As far as the location goes for the person who asked, just google ashai orlando and you will find it.
Did exactly that. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Orlando Seeker]Made yet another trip to Asahi yesterday. I saw Judy this time. I had not seen her since my first trip there back in December.
She has improved her technique a lot since then. She isn't the best looking catch there, but not too bad. She gave the best table shower that I have ever had. Actually it was kind of like a massage and shower all at the same time.
When we went back for the actual massage, it was ok. Maybe it was because I asked for a medium instead of a strong massage, but she just doesn't put much effort into it. Still, she covers all the areas nicely and seems to really like playing with your ass a lot.
On the flip, she got undressed (completely) and was rubbing all over. She seems to enjoy DATY. Even seemed to want a bit more after I got off.
As far as the location goes for the person who asked, just google ashai orlando and you will find it.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone tried Massage by Alexis in OW?
Thanks
BB
I had seen Alexis. She is over in the Metro West area. A little weird. But ok. It is 100 for an hour. Tries to up sell to BBBJ for 150. Not so good massage and a quit hand shake. Some how during the section she talked me in to massaging her. She talks a lot. Promise more next time ant 80. Not sure if I will go back. I am kind of on the fence. Hope this helps.
My second trip to Ginza was even better than the first. I saw May this time. The previous girl, Jen, is already gone. Like others have said, don't worry about the extras because the massage is sooooo good. I think everyone there gives a great massage. TS was excellent (all parts cleaned well) and she did the hot stones massage for no extra money (normally $15 extra). Handshake is available. I suspect one of you was in there today too because my room was right across from the TS room and I could hear someone ask for a two-girl massage. Sounded like it wasn't available.
[QUOTE=Inglewood]Visited Orlando recently and after debating Asahi vs Ginza chose a visit to Ginza. Much of my experience could be a ditto from a couple previous posts. Had Mimi...what a cutie! Great personality, cute face, and a body I would like to sample. Thorough shower experience, in fact was one of best I have had. Got the hot stones treatment, a first for me. Gentlemen....I can honestly say you will not get a better massage anywhere! Granted, extras may be better elsewhere, but the massage alone will make me a return customer. Don't misunderstand...entire body was happy and relaxed when I left...but no looky, no touchy (did cop a quick feel of Mimi's beautiful top). One other ditto of previous posts...as I was leaving, met Lily! What a mamasan! Gonna try to get a session with her next time...can only fantasize until then...she is hot![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Le Touriste]Has anyone else heard anything about this? I checked the Sentinel website, and other local news yesterday, but didn't see anything. Also, even without naming AMPs, has anyone gone to visit since the initial raids in Orlando?[/QUOTE]Saw this in the paper... where do I sign up to be a cop??
"Sheriff: Officers Must Have Sex With Prostitutes For Evidence. Undercover sex is getting the OK from a Virginia sheriff. Spotsylvania County Sheriff Howard Smith said he stands by the practice of allowing detectives to receive sexual services in the course of their investigations so they can catch suspects in the act. Court documents show that four times last month, county detectives allowed women at a massage parlor to perform sex acts on them. In one case, a lawman left a $350 tip. Smith acknowledged the practice is not new. Smith told The Washington Post that only unmarried detectives are allowed to do the under-the-covers work. He said actual sex acts are needed to help win prostitution convictions. "If I thought we could get the conviction without that, we wouldn't allow it, " Smith told the newspaper. "If you want to make them, this has to be done. " He said most prostitutes are careful not to say anything incriminating, which makes sexual contact necessary. Several police officials and legal observers say the practice has been tried by other agencies across the country, but they knew of none that still permit sexual contact with suspects as part of prostitution investigations. But many police agencies across the country have banned sexual contact between investigators and suspects. When police used similar tactics in the past in Montgomery County, Md. , the charges ended up being dropped."
Bad evening for me. I stopped by my old regular AMP, the Shinn Inn twice and they were backed up. Actually 5 cars in the lot which is the most I've seen. Went north on 17-92 and stopped at the AMP next to Cheers (just says "massage" in the window.) I've been there a couple of times and never have got more than a handshake. The male Mamasan (LOL) told me that they were very busy and could not see me tonite.
Decided to drive by Ginza (behind the Jai Lai place) and there were no cars in the lot, but then I remembered that there wasn't much to be had but a hot stone massage, so I kept driving. Went by several AMP's on 436, but the lots were totally empty and remembering the recent busts, I decided to pass.
I never knew where Asahi was, so I just headed home. I did a google search when I got home and saw it was right around the corner. DAMN. I'll visit tomorrow night. Time for a cold shower. :-(
Has anyone here seen the girl in this AD? Amy in Casselberry?
I'm contemplating stopping by in the a.m. one of these days.
Here's a link:
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/303075358.html[/url]
Here's the ad:
I am a 34 SWF looking for a man that
would like a sensual full body rub
from a cute topless girl. I am 36-DD
I have my own place in Casselberry.
5'3 135 short hair and green eyes
Full body rub with a happy ending is 70.
4079533307...Anyday...
I am an openminded girl.
436 and Howell Branch in Casselberry
The session is 30 mins long
amyorlandomassage at yahoo EMAILS ONLY TO THIS ADDRESS!!!!!
Search here and you will find reviews on Amy. She is for real. Not her pic. Can get more. OK service. Looks so so.
[QUOTE=Gruglok]Has anyone here seen the girl in this AD? Amy in Casselberry?
I'm contemplating stopping by in the a.m. one of these days.
Here's a link:
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/303075358.html[/ur
Yes, she is very pleasant,not a raving beauty, buttt you will get MORE than you expect----VS
Okay. I made it back to the 436/17-92 area this afternoon. Found Asahi tucked back on a sidestreet near Circuit City on 436. Google the address if you need it. The Mamasan introduced me to Judy who gave a great TS. Didn't want to get up. Went back to the room and got a less than average massage, but the extra benefits made up for it on the flip. 8 for the hour and another. 6 made for a smile on the way home. My first visit there and being new didn't seem to bother Judy at all.
WOF