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I would really like to run into a black girl named Trenda again, she was one of the hottest balck chicks I have ever seen and great skills for $$.

First off, if you are with your s/o, wtf are you doing mongering?

If you are with anyone else, boot them out of the room for a hour or so.

And while limos are not standard, it has been discussed in the past as a viable option.

[QUOTE=Kirstyforme]Been to Vegas many, many times but never tried the CG action (always used the established escorts in the past). This past weekend I decided to try out what I had culled from this board in the way of tips to see what kind of p4p I could get. Only had one night away from the rest of my travelling companions so Friday night ('holiday' weekend) it was.

First, a couple of things working against me. I wasn't real sure just how to spot the CG's, wasn't sure what kind of rate to expect for a Friday night, and wasn't sure where to go since my room was otherwise already occupied (if you know what I mean). But, I decided to try anyway just for the intel.

I left the Mandalay Bay just before two am (I guess that means it is technically Sat morning but I digress). Took a stroll around the connection walkways from Excalibur to Tropicana to MGM and over to NYNY. Didn't see any prospects that clued me in to a CG. Decided I better stay put for a while and just observe. Ended up standing outside NYNY (on MGM side) until nearly 3:30 without a single confirmed sighting! I was getting pretty bummed thinking I was either too obvious or too pathetic. Finally saw a young girl having a conversation at the other end of the walkway (MGM) with an older guy which didn't appear to be 'with her.' Kinda thought she might be for hire but I got distracted and the next thing I knew she was gone and the guy was walking toward me. Damn, missed that one.

Was getting ready to call it a night (a lousy one at that) when a young girl came up the escalator near where I was standing. She was following a dude that didn't seem to be too interested in her so my radar went up. I tried to make eye contact with her but she didn't even look my way and quickly headed into the NYNY. I felt funny about making a bolt after her so decided to stick around for a few minutes and see if she made her way back out. No luck after about 20 minutes so I decided to head across towards the Excalibur and start my way back to my room. As I exited the NYNY on the Excalibur side I spotted this same gal standing outside talking on her cell. I gave her the look and she winked back (score!). She immediately ended her call and waved me over. My confidence was just slightly up now since I confirmed that I could at least spot a CG afterall (I was beginning to wonder if I was just lame or just unlucky). She was young and decent looking (I'd say about a 7 or 8) with long reddish brown hair wearing high-heel boots. We established that I was open to company and she quickly how much I was willing to spend. I don't like to be the one making the initial offer since I don't want to be ridiculously low but at the same time I want to have room to negotiate. I mumbled something about $$ - $$$ and she said she would be able to make $$$ work. I was really hoping for less but.... Anyway, I mentioned that I didn't have an available room. She countered that if I was willing to go an additional $ she could secure us a limo ride for our time together. Hmmm, good thought and very tempting but I thought better about $$$$ for some private time in the back of a car. I thanked her and told her I'd consider it but decided to move on. Sorry, in the heat of the moment I didn't even think to ask her name (doh!).

Question - is a 'limo ride' a standard practice for LV? I know rooms were not very available (at least cheaper ones) last weekend so maybe that had something to bear on it as well.

Anyway, my two cents and a big thank you to those that have paved the way for us to learn on our own![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Speck]First off, if you are with your s/o, wtf are you doing mongering?

If you are with anyone else, boot them out of the room for a hour or so.

And while limos are not standard, it has been discussed in the past as a viable option.[/QUOTE]You bring up a valid point, Speck, but being in Vegas is an opportunity that I didn't want to miss (I don't get there all that often). Whether I should monger AT ALL is probably a more legitimate question (but we all have our faults).

Thanks for the heads up on the limos. I'll do a better search next time.

Does anyone know or see a black SW that used to walk Trop that went by Dee Dee? I met here earlier last summer. Or a White SW that I seen on trop and other areas that goes by Hope. I also met earlier last summer.

Both are younger and a lot of fun. Was hoping I might see them out there somewhere.

With it being colder it has been very scarce unless you go into the casinos.

Thanks for the intel, Speck. I will probably concentrate on an incall location or scheduling something with an established independent outcall provider.

What is the action like during New Years? Are the girls still out of town for the holidays? Do they charge more? Thanks.

Cool,

In regards to them charging more, I do not know. I do know that on New Years there is a very heavy police presence on the strip. They're pretty busy with stupid drunk people.

[QUOTE=cool]What is the action like during New Years? Are the girls still out of town for the holidays? Do they charge more? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Its dead for mongering action on NYE. Just look at the room rates for that weekend and you will see why.

The CG's in the casino are rare. The sw's that live locally are out and about. New Years is about the only 2 days where there is low LE presence on the streets cuz all officers are down on the strip.
Be safe out there..............

Daytime on Trop has been ok recently. THere was a WSW with capri's and clear heels walking up and down. It was so tempting to stop near Decatur and get her but so many cars out.

What is it like dealing with them? Whats the difference besides obviously the cost. Most of them do FS right? How do you negotiate with them? Its tough to talk a 9/10 into lowering her rates without insulting her if their not obscene. Any advice will be appreciated. Oh yeah what about time? Since you pay for a hour etc. do you "shag" for a hour or one pop. If the escort knows what you want and all the legal stuff is aside do you get down to business (shag) right away as soon as she steps in like a normal working girl? Thanks guys.

Escorts - get a subscription to T--E--R. Fork over the $25 or so....you are dropping $200 or more. $25 is more than worth it to ensure you do not get ripped off. Everything you need to know about the girl will be there including activities included, price per time, etc. There will be no negotiating. What the price reported on TER says...thats the price. I suggest possibly making an appointment before you visit town. *********** dot com is also a good resource, but currently has sparse Vegas info.

If you are looking for CG's, you will not see 9's and 10's except at the bars at the high end hotels. If you can't do at least $300, fuhggetaboutit. Most will reject that too. If you do get it with one of these girls, be sure you negotiate times, multiples etc. Be very sure that you are not talking to a cop. For $300+ you damm well better get an hour and multiples. $300 is not an insult to a girl wanting $500-600, but they will decline if they don't want it. If a girl starts at like $1000, I would just flat out avoid, but thats me.

As far as the remaining cg's....the ones on the bridges and working in medium leve casinos like Harrahs, Mirage, Flamingo, etc....most will take $200. But you have to realize that you will not get an hour. You will get a pretty, friendly, young girl and you will get BJ, and intercourse. But once you are done, she will almost always leave within 10 minutes. If I every did take one of these girls up on a $300 offer, I would make sure of multiples and that she stay an hour.

[QUOTE=cool]What is it like dealing with them? Whats the difference besides obviously the cost. Most of them do FS right? How do you negotiate with them? Its tough to talk a 9/10 into lowering her rates without insulting her if their not obscene. Any advice will be appreciated. Oh yeah what about time? Since you pay for a hour etc. do you "shag" for a hour or one pop. If the escort knows what you want and all the legal stuff is aside do you get down to business (shag) right away as soon as she steps in like a normal working girl? Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]

What about providers that post half hour specials. What is that about? That is a more economical safer bet if your only going to get one pop. Seems like you would pay for a hh instead of a full one.


[QUOTE=cool]What is it like dealing with them? Whats the difference besides obviously the cost. Most of them do FS right? How do you negotiate with them? Its tough to talk a 9/10 into lowering her rates without insulting her if their not obscene. Any advice will be appreciated. Oh yeah what about time? Since you pay for a hour etc. do you "shag" for a hour or one pop. If the escort knows what you want and all the legal stuff is aside do you get down to business (shag) right away as soon as she steps in like a normal working girl? Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=cool]What about providers that post half hour specials. What is that about? That is a more economical safer bet if your only going to get one pop. Seems like you would pay for a hh instead of a full one.[/QUOTE]

The HH never apply to outcalls unless it specifically states...and then its gonna be at least $$.

So if you are staying on the strip, you need a car to take advantage of the HH offers and you need to go to the girl.

If its a girl on the strip...those ones I was talking about in the mid level casinos....the ones willing to do $200 for one go round...thats roughly the equivalent of the 1/2 hour.

[QUOTE=Speck]Part of the problem is that Vegas is a transient town with a very transient "escort" population.

Another problem is that many of the permanent residents that are providers are either insanely expesive "entertainers" or over the hill providers that still go for $$$. I've met some of these "entertainer" girls by pure accident in Henderson and Sumerlin thinking they were just regular girls. Surprised at how easy it was to get the phone number of an 8 or a 9, I quickly found out they were not interested in me as a bf. Quotes start at $1k and drop to maybe $$$$$$.

A further problem is that action on the streets that exists one day, disappears the next. For instance, I cruised downtown and Boulder this weekend like six different times. Dead, dead, dead. Quantity was horrible, and the quality of what was out there was god awful, I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole material. There were some real cuties on Trop, but LE presence was insane. Girls got stopped just for being out. It was effin miserable staying at Orleans and seeing really hot sw's on my way back late at night, and not getting any of them all weekend long. There was a blonde female cop out there going nuts both Fri and Sat night. I'm guessing she got a moral wild hair up her rear end and thinks shes saving the world by arresting prostitutes.


So here goes.....for out of town visitors looking for p4p....the easiest way is to hang out at Bellagio midnight-2am on a Friday or Satruday night and have $$$$$$ to spend. Have a room at a major mid strip hotel...in the area between MB and Wynn. Take a cab back to the room if its further than Flamingo, BC, Ballys, Aladdin, or Ceasars.

Thats it. If you do that and don't get laid you are the most beyond retarded individual alive.


Any of the following factors will diminish how easy it is to get a wife for the night:

-Having only $$$ and more so only $$
-Being picky about looks/type
-Not wanting a black girl
-Staying off strip
-Looking like a slob/idiot/wierdo/creep/psycho
-Mongering at times other than late night
-Smelling bad
-With the lower cost younger girls, being under age 50 or so is a help. Being older than that is a hinderance.
-Mongering outside the main areas(NYNY, EX, Trop, & MGM square and midstrip Harrahs to Bellagio are the best areas including in the casinos).[/QUOTE]

This is the most helpful post I've seen. Thank you!



Larry!

Where is the best place to pick up Black CG's? I will be in Vegas early next year, and want to have some fun.

Picked up Chandra last night while splitting my time between crusing the main floor at a major hotel/casino on the strip. She was about 5'9" maybe 130. Very good looking. Negotiated for F/S back at her room for 2. Spent about an hour together. She was very "service oriented" and a great time was had. The strip action is alive and well.

[QUOTE=Cleetus06]Where is the best place to pick up Black CG's? I will be in Vegas early next year, and want to have some fun.[/QUOTE]

Everywhere.

OK I've heard of girls that don't do outcall to hotels. Please guys tell me you don't play that game and do outcall at your homes. Another thing is some girls want references ( I think that is BS because its not discrete and shouldn't apply if she isn't an entertainer or famous.) Is it best to do incall with a girl to garner her trust for outcall at a motel later? It seems CGs play alot of games and if your stupid you'll get flaked all night long. What info do CG want before they will allow you to do incall? Also for the mongers that have a "mixed" fetish it is usually tough to to get an actual mix girl unless her features are obvious since Black CG tend to say they are mixed when they appear full-blooded black.

[QUOTE=Speck]The HH never apply to outcalls unless it specifically states...and then its gonna be at least $$.

So if you are staying on the strip, you need a car to take advantage of the HH offers and you need to go to the girl.

If its a girl on the strip...those ones I was talking about in the mid level casinos....the ones willing to do $200 for one go round...thats roughly the equivalent of the 1/2 hour.[/QUOTE]

I'll be in LV around New Years and am looking for something very specific. I skimmed through TER and CL and found a few maybe's, but wanted to see if anyone local could give me another recommendation. I'm looking for a mature/MILF type willing to engage in mommy/son role play; should be C-DD cup; BBBJCIM and possibly greek. Also looking for a sub willing to be spanked, paddled and whipped, nipples clamped, face slapped, hair pulled, forced oral, etc. Any recommendations? Steevie from TER looked like an interesting candidate for the first experience. PM please

[QUOTE=cool]OK I've heard of girls that don't do outcall to hotels. Please guys tell me you don't play that game and do outcall at your homes. Another thing is some girls want references ( I think that is BS because its not discrete and shouldn't apply if she isn't an entertainer or famous.) Is it best to do incall with a girl to garner her trust for outcall at a motel later? It seems CGs play alot of games and if your stupid you'll get flaked all night long. What info do CG want before they will allow you to do incall? Also for the mongers that have a "mixed" fetish it is usually tough to to get an actual mix girl unless her features are obvious since Black CG tend to say they are mixed when they appear full-blooded black.[/QUOTE]
Interesting ?'s & Interesting Points: First Higher priced girls don't want to deal with
A) Poor People
B) Unemployed Poor People
C) Weirdos Who Beat or do other Bad things to them.
D) Screened Customers tend to show up for there appointments and not flake.
E) Law Enforcement Officers who insist on arresting them.
F) The list goes on and on.
More and more girls are doing mini backgrounds on the customers simply because they can afford to be selective, they might reject a customer based on his name the way he sounds a feeling they get or because they think he or they are LE. That's what the world is coming to, C.G. you meet generally hanging out in the casino there is no calling like an ad, they will work with you in person when you go to your room, pretty easy LE Check there.

I would never do Outcall to my home, Just not my idea of a fun time a lot of guys do it regularly and never have a problem, I myself would never do it.


Mixed Girls are funny, they all tell you on the phone there mixed, but few are they like to say there Carmel color all kinds of shades black is black mixed half black half white is not the same but they want to make the sale and most guys for a host of reasons don't want to turn them away. If they insist there mixed make sure it's not half back half Samoan unless you want a large woman knocking on your door.

I guess I will Update a F.A.Q. and post it later on. I am sure most ?'s are answered in it somewhere Psyberzomb.. Is Usually really good about pointing people to it, I am to lazy and haven't read it in quite a while.

[QUOTE=Cleetus06]Where is the best place to pick up Black CG's? I will be in Vegas early next year, and want to have some fun.[/QUOTE]
Nearly Every Casino has a few BSW working it, they usually are the majority both on the street and in the casinos.

Just wanted to add the information here is extremely accurate and thanks. I just need to time my visits better (and even that is covered in the reports). Come during the slow time and you're more inclined to get the $150-$200 hottie...who stuck around too long after a convention and needs the money for whatever reason.

If you want the cheap sex, get a ticket to Amsterdam or Brussels ($450 from the East Coast, don't know about West coast), and have at model like women for $60 a pop 1/2 and 1/2. You can even window shop.

Face it, its going to cost you at minimum $160 here (AMP) to $200 on up for an "american girl". Yeah, you might get $150, but think $200 to $300. You can go on the street for $100 - 150, and less for a crack ho. The price seems to have hit an 'equilibrium" across the US.

Anyway, just my .02 cents. Have fun mongering.

I will be in Vegas for an one day business trip and will not be checking in to any hotel. I am interested in meeting up with a local provider but don't have a place. Can anyone recommend a decent/clean hotel where I can check in for a few hours at a reasonable rate? Please pm me.

Thanks for any help.

I was in town last week stayed at the Momte Carlo.

1st night walked the casino about 1030pm found Susan 20, 5'4" about 115 brown eys and hair 200 for hr. Good BBBJ, two pops good overall.

2nd night went to an incall asian house, 2 girls to pick from. I picked the thiner one, when up to the room she undressed me and showered with me whashing and playing with me, then dried me off and gave me the standard rub. Good CBJ, and then to the main event. All in all good vaue 130. Thanks Mr. JunkBox

3rd night had to go out with the group so just looed at the gilrs.

4th night wlaked the casino about 1045 pm and found Kim 5'2" about 100 black girl long hair, looked good and 21. she wanted 150 for 1.5hrs. Got to the room and she asked if we could whash up so in the hot tub we go, Kim was vary GFE and we played there for about 30 min. then got oute and went to the bed good BBBJ, two pops and 2 hrs and 20 min later she asked if she could go.

Would have liked to try the ST action but it was to cold but had a good time.

So I’m in Las Vegas for work.. And who do I run into but a former friend from LA, Cira… This is a girl I sort of know, but I know her friend Ann even better. The saga begins…

Anyway, I was walking around at night and deciding where to gamble. As I walked down the street on the strip toward Aladdin, a young (18 yo) type walked by and gave me “the look.” Guys, I can’t believe some people are still asking about where to find pro’s in Vegas. Geez. They are all around you. As I walked by, I turned and looked at her, and she stopped and turned back to look at me and smiled… She was really cute and looked fresh... But I wanted to gamble so I kept walking LOL.

Newbies asking on the Vegas board about where to find pros... Don't even ask.

So I’m in the Aladdin and playing some poker… And I look across and thought I recognized a group of 3 gals in the casino. Hmmm. Hot, one looked familiar... Stopped playing and went over.

Yep, sure enough – small world, It’s 3 LA girls. I know one of them, Cira, through a mutual friend (Ann)… I think Cira likes me but that’s another story… Yada Yada Yada… Long story short, I ended up banging one of them, she was really nice, small tight little body with a taut little ass and long black hair…Hit it all positions and penetrated in so far she was gasping, but afterwards she said it was really good…

Looks 8, body 9, performance 9. 95 lbs, enhanced C cups, 22 yo.

Juuuust right. Clipped landing strip with just a little bit of wispy hair left… I prefer bald but not too picky on this girl, she was so smoking hot.

Anyway, I had also asked Cila to give my digits to Ann again, as I had lost touch with her in LA.

Back in my hotel room, Ann called me later that night, wanted to know how my experience with her friend was – and also was interested in getting together the next time I am down in her LA area, to go out to eat and all that. I teased her that she should drive to Vegas immediately to meet me LOL. Yes, Ann is a former pro but is now running an agency, and still very young, by that I mean she is not even close to 30!! We chatted for quite a awhile as I hadn't seen her in about a year. She was very polite, finally she got tired and asked if it was "OK" if she left our call, so she could go to bed. Not asking if it is OK like american girls... Genuinely, she wanted to get my permission before she left the call... Cute. She will make someone a good SO sometime.

A lot of these gals are really cool, if you get to them before they are jaded by the business. The smart ones are only in it for the short term.

So a good Vegas trip, a good bang to the point that I was exhausted afterwards… and a reconnection with Ann. Cool.

RM

[QUOTE=Pleasure Dude]I will be in Vegas for an one day business trip and will not be checking in to any hotel. I am interested in meeting up with a local provider but don't have a place. Can anyone recommend a decent/clean hotel where I can check in for a few hours at a reasonable rate? Please pm me.

Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]It may be borderline depending on your personal standards of decent/clean, but I won't be giving up any classified state secrets by posting the fact that the Oasis Motel on Las Vegas Blvd north of the Strip (1731 Las Vegas Blvd S, 702-735-6494, no website) is well known for providing that service. They openly advertise as a "XXX Adult" motel offering hourly rates. But on an average weekday you probably won't save anything over the cost of checking into one of the lower end economy class tourist/gaming properties like Imperial Palace or Sahara or Circus Circus.

How come Reno don't have this kind of action? I don't recall seeing working girls in Reno casinos.

[QUOTE=cool]How come Reno don't have this kind of action? I don't recall seeing working girls in Reno casinos.[/QUOTE]

Reno does have action in the casinos . You can usually find a couple in the Silver Barron lounge inside the Silver Legacy . In reno you really have to look , nothing like Vegas .

Gnome out ...

Might as well post my success stories. Last 2 times in Vegas, I had early am success with slot machine hookers (you know the ones).

First time. Mandalay Bay. 5: 30am after a long night at strip clubs. My boy and I found an asian and white pair. The quoted 700 each! I laughed and said I never pay for play for more than 150 (BJ and FS). After haggling a bit, they agreed and we had great sessions. One in living room and me in bathroom.

Second time. Bellagio after the O show let out. I was propositioned by several chicks who were looking for company. They were more expensive, but got the impression most would have left with me to my hotel for 200. Too bad I was staying with my chica.

My advice. Be subtle and be firm. These girls know the competition is fierce, and would definitely come down in price to Atlantic City levels. Meaning 150!

[QUOTE=Monger 3]Might as well post my success stories. Last 2 times in Vegas, I had early am success with slot machine hookers (you know the ones).

First time. Mandalay Bay. 5: 30am after a long night at strip clubs. My boy and I found an asian and white pair. The quoted 700 each! I laughed and said I never pay for play for more than 150 (BJ and FS). After haggling a bit, they agreed and we had great sessions. One in living room and me in bathroom.

Second time. Bellagio after the O show let out. I was propositioned by several chicks who were looking for company. They were more expensive, but got the impression most would have left with me to my hotel for 200. Too bad I was staying with my chica.

My advice. Be subtle and be firm. These girls know the competition is fierce, and would definitely come down in price to Atlantic City levels. Meaning 150![/QUOTE]

Your not so hidden efforts to bring down prices will not work. I've been turned down at $150 so many times its not funny. I've been turned down at $300 many times also. Depends on the girl.

I'd like to experience a BCG on my next visit. Would I be better off staying at the Flamingo, Monte Carlo, or MGM? Or any other reccomendations?

[QUOTE=Cleetus06]I'd like to experience a BCG on my next visit. Would I be better off staying at the Flamingo, Monte Carlo, or MGM? Or any other reccomendations?[/QUOTE]

I assume you mean black casino girl in which case MGM or Flamingo. MGM is a way nicer hotel than Flamingo.

MGM you can search at Luxor, Excalibur, Trop(meh), NYNY and MGM of course.

Flamingo you can search at BC, Bellagio, Ceasars and on the streets, and Flamingo of course.

The advantage of MGM is that its nicer. The disadvantage is that its huge and it takes forever to walk from your room to the bridges.

The disadvantage of Flamingo is its kinda a dump. The advantage is that there are lots of late night girls out in front of Flamingo and throughout the casino(after 2am or so), especially on Friday and Saturday night, and its very easy to walk to the street.

[QUOTE=Speck]Your not so hidden efforts to bring down prices will not work. I've been turned down at $150 so many times its not funny. I've been turned down at $300 many times also. Depends on the girl.[/QUOTE]
I know getting turned down for high $$ is the worst you know the girl is not budging for a penny less then her price and she will go home alone all week if she has to. Nearly as bad are the girls that have no business charging 300 or even thinking of charging it and still quote you that. My worst experience was chatting a cutie up with her not attractive friend around, one to many drinks in me and her haggling friend chimed in how for 800 I could have them both interfering with the conversation and I finally let out a pretty loud " I wouldn't fuck you if you paid me, but If you get that snaggletooth fixed and work on that lazy eye you might catch a date before your 65." Her friend was shocked and she was pissed and called me a few names I went back to gambling and she knew better then to follow into the H.L. room.

CG are funny some are worth every penny some aren't close, some are plain s/w's that walked on in, the best feeling is getting a girl who is hot, has a good attitude, and is happy with the price you both agree on.

I found some girls will agree to lower amounts, but there service is really bad, and they remind you, you paid for that service, so it is good to find a girl who will work for her $.

Just the same some girls service is bad at any price.

[QUOTE=Webcams]I know getting turned down for high $$ is the worst you know the girl is not budging for a penny less then her price and she will go home alone all week if she has to. Nearly as bad are the girls that have no business charging 300 or even thinking of charging it and still quote you that. My worst experience was chatting a cutie up with her not attractive friend around, one to many drinks in me and her haggling friend chimed in how for 800 I could have them both interfering with the conversation and I finally let out a pretty loud " I wouldn't fuck you if you paid me, but If you get that snaggletooth fixed and work on that lazy eye you might catch a date before your 65." Her friend was shocked and she was pissed and called me a few names I went back to gambling and she knew better then to follow into the H.L. room.

CG are funny some are worth every penny some aren't close, some are plain s/w's that walked on in, the best feeling is getting a girl who is hot, has a good attitude, and is happy with the price you both agree on.

I found some girls will agree to lower amounts, but there service is really bad, and they remind you, you paid for that service, so it is good to find a girl who will work for her $.

Just the same some girls service is bad at any price.[/QUOTE]

Effin torture was winning over $1800 in a sick run at a $10-20 LHE game at Mirage, game breaking at 4am, and schlepping over to BC for some breakfast and then back to Harrahs for some sleep, and running into a hot as hell cg who would under no circumstances budge under $$$...well for a cbj, but thats hella not worth it.

All because of retarded rules I have on how much I spend. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Went back to the room and rubbed one out. Meh.

Saw WSW or CG (how can you tell) outside of Harrahs. She asked me where I was staying and I said Rio. She said fuhgetaboutit.

Can anyone tell me why?

[QUOTE=Gglee]Saw WSW or CG (how can you tell) outside of Harrahs. She asked me where I was staying and I said Rio. She said fuhgetaboutit.

Can anyone tell me why?[/QUOTE]
Rio is off the strip, a lot of girls don't like working there.

I have always found a few working there when I have stayed I have noticed that the security seems to discourage there presence from time to time though.

[QUOTE=Speck].......

All because of retarded rules I have on how much I spend. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Went back to the room and rubbed one out. Meh.[/QUOTE]
Rules are meant to be broken, but cbj for that is simply not worth it, consider yourself lucky, once she started you surely would have wanted more and the price would have gone up up up, and the blood flow would have gone everywhere but your brain, she could have had you at your weakest.

Not to call you guys out in a negative way...

One you guys said treat them (massage ladies) right (nice comments, gifts,etc)...no matter what they do..they are still women and like those things.

Here is a recent event that happened to me with my regular apartment massage lady.

She's 33 from Bejing...kinda cute. I always tell her how nice she looks, smells, and I'll always comment on something she does or has on. I even remembered her birthday. We talk before and after service and i'm always interested in what she has to say.

I'm not working now, and short on cash. She knows this. Well the other day, I called to schedule and she was on her way back. We actually met at her door. Now i've never seen her in plain clothes...and she was so cute....in her jeans, sneakers and t-shirt. I comment on it and she just couldn't believe it.

Well during the massage, she says "you have been so nice to me...I want to take care of you." She gave me BJ and FS and I only paid for the massage...$50

That's a nice story, Muggs. I'm sure Wastrel (and others) has said it in the past and I know I have - about just treating them right with respect, in general. The gifting thing is nice but I know I won't do that until there's a 'regular' theme or some basic connect (in my mind at least) to it all. But right out of the gate, being nice certainly doesn't hurt ANY relation with a decent rub-tech. For me it's not hard to do as I find a bit of delight in dealing with these cute little Asian girls - of any age (meaning older if is the case) - as long as the only word they know isn't "TIP?" when we meet...

I'm another one that enjoys that sneakered street clothing look on a lot of those Asian gals! Too friggin' cute sometimes.

I'll bet your Beijing Honey will look very surprised when you make it up to her later! Hell, she might start calling you.