Bullshit that has Nothing to do With Pussy

[QUOTE=HanginBalls;4776782]That's for sure! My 50 yr old AMP is now starting to see some of her higher donating regs! The last few days all I've been doing is giving her one hour massages! Last night we laid in bed and noticed I was hard as a rock! "Geez, honey! I'm so sorry! My mouth and pussy are sore! Would you mind jacking off tonight? You can even cum on my face" I was perturbed as much as horny! So, she tickled my balls as I nutted on her face! "Asshole", she called me as I blew on her silky, soft hair!

Sometimes you have to give a little and sometimes you have to take a lot![/QUOTE]Your getting tiring dude. Maybe you should start your own thread entitling it your continuing adventures and save space for meaningful contributions.

[QUOTE=Sampso;4788309]Pcp guy is about 60 years old and this son of a ***** comes out wearing a goddamn dress and panties!!

Now I'm in deep. This is a cluster fuck. I'm starting to feel covid has got to be somewhere in this fucking crack house so I'm getting a bit more nervous.

Now I know you guys are going to give me shit, I know I fucked up not leaving as soon as I walked into a pitch black room. I fucked up giving up the cash in full. And I fucked up staying way too long when I should have just cut my losses.

But its my advice to just stay the fuck as far away from that place as you can![/QUOTE]Now for some tips, if you're going to go to unreviewed cheap spots you need to be going to a boxing / BJJ gym regularly to workout. You should be able to run, wrestle and box. If you don't want to do all this, go to a proper agency and pay $350.

In my younger days, I liked to get the adrenaline going, so like you I found myself at places like this. I always keep 3 things on my person:

1. Most importantly a flashlight: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCCa_aQSNnY[/URL] - watch this video for why this is the best self defense weapon.

In your situation, you mentioned everything was dark. If I was there, I'd have lit up the place like the 4th of July and got a good sense of my bearings. Probably would have left based on what I saw but let's imagine I continued on this adventure. If someone blocks my exit, I shine my light in their face, as he's briefly stunned, I use my weight to push him out of the way of the exit, maybe even set up a foot sweep to put him down and give myself extra time.

2. Pepper Spray: completely legal to have on your person. If a pimp blocks my exit; boom, he's going to get a shot in the eye. Remember, I mentioned staying in shape. As he's temporarily handicapped I'm sprinting out of there.

3. Stun Gun: I have one that looks like a flash drive. If I'm stopped by the cops, everything I have is legal. But if I get pinned down, out it comes and it's going to zap the son of a ***** and debilitate him for about 5 minutes giving me an escape route.

Of course, do all the usual, like you said too but if you want to play this low end monger game you got to put in the work to fight yourself out of a nasty situation.

Note, everything I suggested is defensive. You never know when someone has a gun. I have one too but I'm not about to take it out and try to get into a battle with a pimp and end up in jail / hospital. All the weapons and moves should be practiced purely for self defense and a quick exit.

So you have pepper spray, a stun gun, a gun, a tactical flashlight that you take to all of your incalls, and are trained in boxing, wrestling and can do a fast sprint in case a tactical retreat is needed after all of that?

I'd have trouble finding my wallet without injuring myself if I were that armed LOL.

[QUOTE=Neilsh87;4792039]Now for some tips, if you're going to go to unreviewed cheap spots you need to be going to a boxing / BJJ gym regularly to workout. You should be able to run, wrestle and box. If you don't want to do all this, go to a proper agency and pay $350.

In my younger days, I liked to get the adrenaline going, so like you I found myself at places like this. I always keep 3 things on my person:

1. Most importantly a flashlight: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCCa_aQSNnY[/URL] - watch this video for why this is the best self defense weapon.

In your situation, you mentioned everything was dark. If I was there, I'd have lit up the place like the 4th of July and got a good sense of my bearings. Probably would have left based on what I saw but let's imagine I continued on this adventure. If someone blocks my exit, I shine my light in their face, as he's briefly stunned, I use my weight to push him out of the way of the exit, maybe even set up a foot sweep to put him down and give myself extra time.

2. Pepper Spray: completely legal to have on your person. If a pimp blocks my exit; boom, he's going to get a shot in the eye. Remember, I mentioned staying in shape. As he's temporarily handicapped I'm sprinting out of there.

3. Stun Gun: I have one that looks like a flash drive. If I'm stopped by the cops, everything I have is legal. But if I get pinned down, out it comes and it's going to zap the son of a ***** and debilitate him for about 5 minutes giving me an escape route.

Of course, do all the usual, like you said too but if you want to play this low end monger game you got to put in the work to fight yourself out of a nasty situation.

Note, everything I suggested is defensive. You never know when someone has a gun. I have one too but I'm not about to take it out and try to get into a battle with a pimp and end up in jail / hospital. All the weapons and moves should be practiced purely for self defense and a quick exit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jinurso;4792734]So you have pepper spray, a stun gun, a gun, a tactical flashlight that you take to all of your incalls, and are trained in boxing, wrestling and can do a fast sprint in case a tactical retreat is needed after all of that?

I'd have trouble finding my wallet without injuring myself if I were that armed LOL.[/QUOTE]I carry a blackjack. Easy to conceal and wield. Do not take any training and if you hit someone they are going down.

[QUOTE=Neilsh87;4792039]Now for some tips, if you're going to go to unreviewed cheap spots you need to be going to a boxing / BJJ gym regularly to workout. You should be able to run, wrestle and box. If you don't want to do all this, go to a proper agency and pay $350.

In my younger days, I liked to get the adrenaline going, so like you I found myself at places like this. I always keep 3 things on my person:

1. Most importantly a flashlight: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCCa_aQSNnY[/URL] - watch this video for why this is the best self defense weapon.

In your situation, you mentioned everything was dark. If I was there, I'd have lit up the place like the 4th of July and got a good sense of my bearings. Probably would have left based on what I saw but let's imagine I continued on this adventure. If someone blocks my exit, I shine my light in their face, as he's briefly stunned, I use my weight to push him out of the way of the exit, maybe even set up a foot sweep to put him down and give myself extra time.

2. Pepper Spray: completely legal to have on your person. If a pimp blocks my exit; boom, he's going to get a shot in the eye. Remember, I mentioned staying in shape. As he's temporarily handicapped I'm sprinting out of there.

3. Stun Gun: I have one that looks like a flash drive. If I'm stopped by the cops, everything I have is legal. But if I get pinned down, out it comes and it's going to zap the son of a ***** and debilitate him for about 5 minutes giving me an escape route.

Of course, do all the usual, like you said too but if you want to play this low end monger game you got to put in the work to fight yourself out of a nasty situation.

Note, everything I suggested is defensive. You never know when someone has a gun. I have one too but I'm not about to take it out and try to get into a battle with a pimp and end up in jail / hospital. All the weapons and moves should be practiced purely for self defense and a quick exit.[/QUOTE]If seeing a girl is going to get this dangerous I guess we'll have to bring a wingman for protection.

[QUOTE=ChasP44;4798558]I carry a blackjack. Easy to conceal and wield. Do not take any training and if you hit someone they are going down.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/76D2UGnWJyE[/URL]

Watch around minute 5.

You hit someone on the head with a blackjack you're going to kill him.

You don't want to do that and risk jail. Better to have more defensive weapons to just disable an attacker temporarily.

Flashlight, pepper spray, stun gun. Stuff like that will render an opponent for a few minutes so you can make a quick exit.

Technically these things are legal to have on your person. Blackjack is designed to shatter bones and kill people with one hit.

Could all you Dirty Harry wannabe's please keep this on the stupid shit page?

In 7 years of hobbying, I've never had to deal with any of this shit you guys are talking about. And I've never spent more than 300. I usually operate in the mid to lower mid market. This is the stuff you deal with when you mess with the bottom of the barrel drug addicts.

Where are all the desperate out of work strippers selling their tits these dark days?

[QUOTE=Neilsh87;4798961][URL]https://youtu.be/76D2UGnWJyE[/URL]

Watch around minute 5.

You hit someone on the head with a blackjack you're going to kill him.

You don't want to do that and risk jail. Better to have more defensive weapons to just disable an attacker temporarily.

Flashlight, pepper spray, stun gun. Stuff like that will render an opponent for a few minutes so you can make a quick exit.

Technically these things are legal to have on your person. Blackjack is designed to shatter bones and kill people with one hit.[/QUOTE]Stun guns are illegal as well over a certain voltage. I go for the leg.

BUT read the first few pages of this recent appellate court opinion.

[URL]http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2020/D05-28/C:17-3448:J:Brennan:aut:T:fnOp:N:2522921:S:0[/URL]

Even I, a confirmed cynic, find this amazingly sad. I just don't get how women can be manipulated like this guy obviously did.

[QUOTE=Randolph;4807395]BUT read the first few pages of this recent appellate court opinion.

[URL]http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2020/D05-28/C:17-3448:J:Brennan:aut:T:fnOp:N:2522921:S:0[/URL]

Even I, a confirmed cynic, find this amazingly sad. I just don't get how women can be manipulated like this guy obviously did.[/QUOTE]Almost similar on how Markus at MCE manipulated me and the other girls when he seeks out girls on SA, and on FB. He mistreats the girls badly, that why I left and several others.

Well Markus must have friends (and clients) in high places because his weekly and daily email is still being sent out. The variety of hoofers isn't what it used to be but that's probably due to covid. Other than that his business is still in progress and on schedule.

[QUOTE=HomerGuy;4807782]Well Markus must have friends (and clients) in high places because his weekly and daily email is still being sent out. The variety of hoofers isn't what it used to be but that's probably due to covid. Other than that his business is still in progress and on schedule.[/QUOTE]Oh I know he does. Several of the girls including myself have seen higher up people in Chicago. Still, it only takes one hiccup for Markus business to cease and desists. Search Emperors Club VIP, that place only had higher ups. They charged clients at minimum 1 k an hour for 16 years. I should have worked there if it was still open instead at MCE. I still made good money with Markus but I just had enough with him as well as the other girls.

I don't usually read this section of the escort section. Frankly, $300 or more for a little bit of sex is out of my financial league. And too often when I do read, guys are complaining that the girls are not the same as their ads, and the service is not as advertised. Now I have an entire page of talking about weapons, self defense, and lessons. Do you guys hear yourselves talking? I'd rather ask if it's worth it if I have to pay hundreds of dollars and learn to use weapons. Personally, I'm not willing to risk my life or a jail term for pussy even she is a Penthouse model.

[QUOTE=Ump1969;4809444]I don't usually read this section of the escort section. Frankly, $300 or more for a little bit of sex is out of my financial league. And too often when I do read, guys are complaining that the girls are not the same as their ads, and the service is not as advertised. Now I have an entire page of talking about weapons, self defense, and lessons. Do you guys hear yourselves talking? I'd rather ask if it's worth it if I have to pay hundreds of dollars and learn to use weapons. Personally, I'm not willing to risk my life or a jail term for pussy even she is a Penthouse model.[/QUOTE]Markus thinks he's is making a ton of money with Modelsclubelite which may be the case but he isn't actually making a lot of money. 2-3 million a year. The ones that operated in New York was charging clients 1 k-2 k minimum an hour for many years. Making 8- 10 million a year. Look up Emperor Club VIP and New York Confidential. The Pimp at New York Confidential proclaimed himself as "King of all Pimps". Marks thinks the same running Modelsclubelite in Chicago but actually he isn't.

[QUOTE=JayKay8;4880468]Looks like the issue with EB and other sites was fixed that they are all working now. Just wanted to give a heads up.[/QUOTE]So strange. I wonder what actually happened.

[QUOTE=Jason750;4881700]So strange. I wonder what actually happened.[/QUOTE]I remember reading about how different LE agencies take over sites used by pedos, hackers, drugs and arms dealers either on clearnet or on the dark web. They bust the owners / operators and then they run them themselves for a while to track down and identify all it's users / buyers / suppliers and funding mechanisms. Usually when that happens the site goes down a while while the LE takes full control of the servers and update them with tracking software and then they put it back online and operate them to capture their targets. I'm not saying that this is what happened now but it sure looks a bit suspicious. And if that's the case they are most likely only trying to get the pimps and the others involved in sex with minors, forced prostitution and trafficking. If there are idiots who respond, review or comment to adds that suggest any minors are to be involved, then those would very likely be scooped up, but the average monger who only wants to play with a consenting escort should not be worried. However, sometimes collateral damage does happen and for example in a RICO case against an agency all the agency's customers might end up considered co-conspirators even if the customers had no knowledge of the agency being involved in dealing with minors. Therefore I recommend to everyone to never use personal email / phone when reviewing / commenting on these websites or even just communicating with the escorts. Also don't use your home wifi or cellular internet connection. Use VPN and public WiFi and just be careful with what you say in your communication with these websites and with the escorts. You may not end up in jail but being outed on a list of Johns out there could do you a lot of damage down the road.

That's more than Bishop magic don Juan! And hes the goat of the game.

[QUOTE=Lipstickonu;4923927]MCE has produced exceptional talent into circulation for us mongers. So many attractive college girls come to mind. Some that wouldn't even recognize our existence if we tried at a bar. I remember one other owner also brought in good talent. In fact, all the girls worth seeing came from two agencies. I've noticed these girls are still working. How is that possible if MCE owner " comes after them as you keep repeating? How haven't they LEFT the industry if they were forced or mistreated? I know of a few that work else where and they say things about the owner, but which escort talks good about their prior boss? I haven't seen mce owner expose anyone client like some other agencies do on their social media page. I also haven't ever gotten an email of mce bashing girls when they leave. Is it that MCE owner is getting girls independent or is it that he lost his mojo? Or is it both? As long as we keep the hate going? Bottom line, I've seen plenty of girls that have worked with MCE at some point turn out independent. Are all of them still working for MCE? I've searched everywhere and MCE is NOT under any investigation whatsoever. However because you, lipstickonme / Colossalnuts, have planted this lie on this forum, I keep being baffled by your remarkable work of single handedly making everyone think they are. Where does it end? Your obsession is alarming. I see the talent at 262 and there is not even one that looks half as attractive as any girl I've seen at mce. I've seen that there are only a few girls left at mce which indicates that the ship is sinking. Let's hope someone else brings us good talent and young hotties for the fun.[/QUOTE]Markus won't let MCE sink ship. The posts that say he will are just bs. He is going to rebrand like he did with chicagoelitecompanions, CEC. He was getting heat from people so he rebranded into MCE. He still getting heat even with MCE. Markus definitely won't sink ship that makes him 7 figures a year. He loves his lavish lifestyle for the 5 years he has been taking money from johns.

As a hobbyist who has refined taste for nothing but the best, I feel compelled to give my experiences with Kelani (MCE). I just saw Kelani 2 weeks ago and wasn't sure if she wanted me to review as with the Pandemic and some people on heightened concerns, I didn't want to review her and cause too much attention. But now that I see others are commenting, I'm going to lay out the real deal truth as I have seen Kelani consistently for last 2 years. She is your 20 something hottie that turns your head while your walking around the city, while your on a date with your girlfriend / wife and you see that young hot blonde you know everyone else is looking at. Kelani is a smokeshow! She's got perfect skin, sexy sparkling eyes, and the softest skin in the world. The best part is she is a freak and loves sex! As someone with an appetite for girls in their 20's, she is the cream of the crop! The last time we met, I had her out on a outfit request (black nylons) and I had to explore her perfect body. Now I know we all have our preferences, but I absolutely love DATY and it's my favorite course. I read here that someone said they smelled an odor and let me tell you. I am a no bullshit, tell it like it is guy and her pussy is perfect! I could eat that white little kitty for days! I have seen she, daytime and nighttime and she is always fresh, clean, shaved and smelling like perfection every time. I mean it when I say she is a 10 and she smells and tastes delicious! We have this role play between me and her and I live pretending like she's my babysitter and we're secretly hooking up. It makes the sex so hot and we fuck like teenagers and she gets so into it! Nobody get me as hard as she, this girl fucks and sucks dick like a porn star! I get hard just thinking about her. And her face is perfection. If you want to get an idea of what she looks like, google search Rosie Huntington-Whitely. Guys, let's me honest, more than half of us could not close a deal with a girl like she in the real world. This girl is out of our league, just be honest. She is hands down the best in Chicago and there is nobody that gives a BJ better than this girl. None of your wives / girlfriends can touch Kelani's skills. So if you want the truth, she is the real deal and hotter than hell! I just booked my next spot with her and can't wait to get back in that tight little hottie.

Kelani, she is girl next door looking type. I had seen rave reviews on the other site and on here. I just don't really see it guys. I've been with high caliber providers before and Kelani is not one of them. Her face does appear off. She has a big forehead top end then it tapers down to her chin, which almost appears alien looking. Performance, well she gives excellent blow job, multiple positions, but she was not into it. She was just hitting the motions and I can see she just wanted to fuck and have me out so she can see other clients. Now with the high caliber providers that I had seen before, I get none of that. I receive a tailored excellent GFE experience that makes me extend that hour into two hours time permitting. Save the donation she charges, and go with a high caliber escort, clearly Kelani doesn't fit the bill. I should have used that money for someone else. I was disappointed and dissatisfied with my experience.

[QUOTE=LipstickOnMe;4924517]Markus won't let MCE sink ship. The posts that say he will are just bs. He is going to rebrand like he did with chicagoelitecompanions, CEC. He was getting heat from people so he rebranded into MCE. He still getting heat even with MCE. Markus definitely won't sink ship that makes him 7 figures a year. He loves his lavish lifestyle for the 5 years he has been taking money from johns.[/QUOTE]Dear Chloe / Gustavo.

If you speak to any of the current or recently departed MCE girls you would know they have a very low call volume. MCE has been on a decline since Sesta / Fosta. Covid was the final nail in the coffin. The only agency making millions would be Christina's 262, Chicagolandmassage, and other bodyrub places. The rest of the agencies are really hurting. Girls don't want to offer GFE and DFK, clients have lost their jobs. The businesses offering half hours are doing volume. MCE specialized in high end girls that were willing to do incredible things for a price. 262 and similar, offer girls that sometimes will not even smile at you and are considerably older.

It's basically the Salvation Army. Here is their collective:

WetnWild.

Michelle's.

CCG.

YWSM.

ECE.

Polish Princess.

Modeling Ave.

Used goods that are worn out and often broken go there for the last sale before retirement. Some really do need to retire. When you think about all the cocks that have been up Rayna's colon it's a wonder how she hasn't succumbed to rectal cancer. The Salvation Army isn't cheap and doesn't offer a good value. $350 is the common price. Average ages are 25 to 35. Most of those women you can meet for free. No need to pay for that shit.

The nice thing about MCE was the access to sorority girl type talent. The ones you knew in college but weren't good enough to even have a slim chance at getting into bed. Now that MCE is is on it's last legs you will see the market dry up for most agencies. The Salvation Army typically recruits strippers and want to be porn starlets. The smarter girls are getting clients via Seeking Arrangement. So it will be harder for old agencies to get fresh talent and stay in business. The BR (bodyrub) places also pay more money then Escort Agencies.

Girls can get eight appointments per day and make $1500 vs the Salvation Army with three appointments and around $600. This is the new reality of the sex industry. I think Marcus could see his dwindling sales volume and the profits left over made it not worth the effort.

If you think he has the energy or interest in creating 10 new escort accounts, 10 new emails, 10 new phone numbers, a few master accounts plus putting all of that on the various ad sites like Slixa, Eros, Tryst, etc. You obviously haven't the correct info or you have an axe to grind. The only way he could turn around his agency would be to start advertising everywhere and building up his brand like it was before. He has always been too cheap to buy ads and didn't have to because the best clients came from review boards.

Review board volume is low. TER wasn't able to make a come back and most new clients don't know about reviews. This means Marcus isn't getting new clients. Meanwhile the ones he has had for years either move, get married, find relationships, or don'; t have the income anymore to partake in such an expensive hobby.

If you insist on posting maybe you should try to offer real value and real information instead of the constant misinformation. If you want to complain about agencies and agency owners I am sure you can find an audience on Reddit that is really interested in hearing such things. This forum is for men that are seeking to bang hot young women not the Better Business Bureau for angry hoes.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest993;4926315]Kelani, she is girl next door looking type. I had seen rave reviews on the other site and on here. I just don't really see it guys. I've been with high caliber providers before and Kelani is not one of them. Her face does appear off. She has a big forehead top end then it tapers down to her chin, which almost appears alien looking. Performance, well she gives excellent blow job, multiple positions, but she was not into it. She was just hitting the motions and I can see she just wanted to fuck and have me out so she can see other clients. Now with the high caliber providers that I had seen before, I get none of that. I receive a tailored excellent GFE experience that makes me extend that hour into two hours time permitting. Save the donation she charges, and go with a high caliber escort, clearly Kelani doesn't fit the bill. I should have used that money for someone else. I was disappointed and dissatisfied with my experience.[/QUOTE]It's obvious that jealous providers, clients, and / or agencies are posting fake negative reviews on Chicago's top provider. I have seen Kelani multiple times as well as other hobbyists I know personally that have been in the game for years. Not one has said a single bad thing about her. She is most definitely the best in the game. I guess you're not doing something right if you don't have haters.

[QUOTE=Hobbiest993;4926315]Kelani, she is girl next door looking type. I had seen rave reviews on the other site and on here. I just don't really see it guys. I've been with high caliber providers before and Kelani is not one of them. Her face does appear off. She has a big forehead top end then it tapers down to her chin, which almost appears alien looking. Performance, well she gives excellent blow job, multiple positions, but she was not into it. She was just hitting the motions and I can see she just wanted to fuck and have me out so she can see other clients. Now with the high caliber providers that I had seen before, I get none of that. I receive a tailored excellent GFE experience that makes me extend that hour into two hours time permitting. Save the donation she charges, and go with a high caliber escort, clearly Kelani doesn't fit the bill. I should have used that money for someone else. I was disappointed and dissatisfied with my experience.[/QUOTE]I can't agree or disagree with the "Kelani" hoopla but Markus sure has pumped up her hype. My only experience with her was an exchange of emails when I inquired about an appointment citing my MCE membership and girls I'd seen, I wasn't about to give over my most confidential I'd info. So I took a pass. This was before Markus took her out an RS-AVS account. I await even more "reviews" from 3-post members to keep her front and center. Good marketing for Markus, he's earning his commission with this one.

[QUOTE=SteveCarter808;4925749]As a hobbyist who has refined taste for nothing but the best... [/QUOTE]What a Blowhard.

With all this jibber jabber, y'all better be ready to pay more for the best escort EVER!

I have been a part of this Forum for many years. It has saved me money and kept me safe.

This community does a fine job of identifying the promoters, bullshitters, etc.


"Champagne wishes and caviar dreams" - Devlin :)

[QUOTE=Arkan;4926560]Dear Chloe / Gustavo.

If you speak to any of the current or recently departed MCE girls you would know they have a very low call volume. MCE has been on a decline since Sesta / Fosta. Covid was the final nail in the coffin. The only agency making millions would be Christina's 262, Chicagolandmassage, and other bodyrub places. The rest of the agencies are really hurting. Girls don't want to offer GFE and DFK, clients have lost their jobs. The businesses offering half hours are doing volume. MCE specialized in high end girls that were willing to do incredible things for a price. 262 and similar, offer girls that sometimes will not even smile at you and are considerably older.

It's basically the Salvation Army. Here is their collective:

WetnWild.

Michelle's.

CCG.

YWSM.

ECE.

Polish Princess.

Modeling Ave.

Used goods that are worn out and often broken go there for the last sale before retirement. Some really do need to retire. When you think about all the cocks that have been up Rayna's colon it's a wonder how she hasn't succumbed to rectal cancer. The Salvation Army isn't cheap and doesn't offer a good value. $350 is the common price. Average ages are 25 to 35. Most of those women you can meet for free. No need to pay for that shit.

The nice thing about MCE was the access to sorority girl type talent. The ones you knew in college but weren't good enough to even have a slim chance at getting into bed. Now that MCE is is on it's last legs you will see the market dry up for most agencies. The Salvation Army typically recruits strippers and want to be porn starlets. The smarter girls are getting clients via Seeking Arrangement. So it will be harder for old agencies to get fresh talent and stay in business. The BR (bodyrub) places also pay more money then Escort Agencies.

Girls can get eight appointments per day and make $1500 vs the Salvation Army with three appointments and around $600. This is the new reality of the sex industry. I think Marcus could see his dwindling sales volume and the profits left over made it not worth the effort.

If you think he has the energy or interest in creating 10 new escort accounts, 10 new emails, 10 new phone numbers, a few master accounts plus putting all of that on the various ad sites like Slixa, Eros, Tryst, etc. You obviously haven't the correct info or you have an axe to grind. The only way he could turn around his agency would be to start advertising everywhere and building up his brand like it was before. He has always been too cheap to buy ads and didn't have to because the best clients came from review boards.

Review board volume is low. TER wasn't able to make a come back and most new clients don't know about reviews. This means Marcus isn't getting new clients. Meanwhile the ones he has had for years either move, get married, find relationships, or don'; t have the income anymore to partake in such an expensive hobby.

If you insist on posting maybe you should try to offer real value and real information instead of the constant misinformation. If you want to complain about agencies and agency owners I am sure you can find an audience on Reddit that is really interested in hearing such things. This forum is for men that are seeking to bang hot young women not the Better Business Bureau for angry hoes.[/QUOTE]I highly doubt MCE is on there last legs. Marcus was able to acquire hot white girls on seeking arrangements. From the post I've read on here. Apparently Marcus has a business degree. It would be stupid of him to not invest from the 7 figures he obtain from the two name agencies he has. Apparently he has legit businesses to cover the millions of dollars he has gotten from his agency over the years. I believe that. He has hot white models and such. If he on his last legs how come he hasn't shut down biz? The girls he has currently are not what I expect from Marcus. He once posted on backpage back then but with shitty fat models in 2015. I know cause I saw post with that number they used in the past and pics. The pics on backpage reflected what they sent on telegram. Back page was a major way to get clients then that review boards. Marcus later got good looking models later on SEeking Arrangements. Marcus is no way leaving the escort biz. That's why he has Kelani and Vera and others as " suppose independent websites " but it leads back to Marcus at MCE. Why has marcus not have websites? He had two websites, and non are active Anymore.

[QUOTE=Arkan;4926560]Dear Chloe / Gustavo.

The smarter girls are getting clients via Seeking Arrangement. So it will be harder for old agencies to get fresh talent and stay in business. The BR (bodyrub) places also pay more money then Escort Agencies.

[/QUOTE]If you go on SA, you will meet a bunch of decent looking talent that asks for 1 k a meet. And they get it. Not from everyone but enough that they don't have to deal with hagglers and those with any experience. The best part is that because it's an "arrangement" and not "escorting", it's somewhat more psychologically acceptable to them. They can even tell their friends about it. And their friends want in too. There are girls who ask for money just for a meet up. Not even to fuck. And guys are paying it. There's also a lot more younger clientele these days. There are tons of hobbyists in their 20's and 30's, so these girls can just sit and wait for them to send a message, inspect their profiles, and pick who they want to see and fuck. The game has changed completely.

Then there's the 200 dollar hand job body rub market. If you are attractive enough, you don't have to do anything besides jerk a few dicks and guys will pay enormous amounts of money simply because you are young and attractive and they are used to the B and C class talent in the other agencies. Also, by being a body rub girl, you can choose who you want to offer upgrades to. So you're not stuck fucking the oldies and fatties who frequent the escort agencies.

Furthermore, the pandemic has increased the demand and it has freed people up to go during the morning and afternoon hours. Before, if you went in before 1 pm, you were often the first client of the day. Now, at some of the popular places, there's a line of people waiting at 10 am. Hell, I know an independent girl who starts at 8 am. And she's fully booked until noon. She's making a killing.

Chicago is probably the worst market out of any of the big cities. The risk of getting busted here is substantially higher and it keeps away the higher end international talent. The local talent uses sites like SA. And so we are stuck with what you call the salvation army. And they are doing just fine as well because guys would rather fuck mediocre talent than fuck nothing at all.

[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;4932294]If you go on SA, you will meet a bunch of decent looking talent that asks for 1 k a meet. And they get it. Not from everyone but enough that they don't have to deal with hagglers and those with any experience. The best part is that because it's an "arrangement" and not "escorting", it's somewhat more psychologically acceptable to them. They can even tell their friends about it. And their friends want in too. There are girls who ask for money just for a meet up. Not even to fuck. And guys are paying it. There's also a lot more younger clientele these days. There are tons of hobbyists in their 20's and 30's, so these girls can just sit and wait for them to send a message, inspect their profiles, and pick who they want to see and fuck. The game has changed completely.

Then there's the 200 dollar hand job body rub market. If you are attractive enough, you don't have to do anything besides jerk a few dicks and guys will pay enormous amounts of money simply because you are young and attractive and they are used to the B and C class talent in the other agencies. Also, by being a body rub girl, you can choose who you want to offer upgrades to. So you're not stuck fucking the oldies and fatties who frequent the escort agencies.

Furthermore, the pandemic has increased the demand and it has freed people up to go during the morning and afternoon hours. Before, if you went in before 1 pm, you were often the first client of the day. Now, at some of the popular places, there's a line of people waiting at 10 am. Hell, I know an independent girl who starts at 8 am. And she's fully booked until noon. She's making a killing..[/QUOTE]My 50 yr old AMP G / F who is a "7" at best was banking huge! She even had one guy with a pinky dick vs. Some guy with a big schlong offer the same amount (5 bens for one hour). She chose the smaller guy because it saved her from getting "stretched out".

Funny thing: He sent her a vid of their session (extra $). She made the same noises when I bang her! Now she's got me wondering if she faked her orgasms with me too?

[QUOTE=HanginBalls;4932833]... She made the same noises when I bang her! Now she's got me wondering if she faked her orgasms with me too?[/QUOTE]HanginBalls,

Rut Roh! If and when you need a platonic hug, I'm here for you bro.

Devlin

[QUOTE=Chicago41;4933629]Yeah, I was kind of hoping guys would share real stories, not make stuff up for fun. I've read plenty of Guy Kingsaver novels. It was funny at first.[/QUOTE]Some of these stories do sound far fetched. True or not they are fun to read. Some fantasies still haven't been realized.

[QUOTE=Devlin;4933980]HanginBalls,

Rut Roh! If and when you need a platonic hug, I'm here for you bro.

Devlin[/QUOTE]Sniff!! Sniff!! I'm going to cry myself right into her hairy, Asian hole and pound away till the sorrow's gone!! Waaaaa. !

[QUOTE=HanginBalls;4934213]I was in high school and bangin this chik! I complained that her Bush was too thick! She was close to her mom and they had a mother / daughter talk.

Next week I'm at their pool waiting 4 my broad to cum home from the library. Her MILF mom comes out in a skimpy to piece, lays on the chaise spread-eagled with her Bush exposed like a wild weed!! She asks me to come overn hand her the suntan lotion. She grabs my crotch and says, " Ah hah!! You don't have a problem with bushy women" I said, "Mrs. Bush, take your hand off my crotch"!.[/QUOTE]Blah, blah, blah. As "real" as a three dollar bill and poorly written to boot.

[QUOTE=Tela1980;4931928]Is anyone else bored with these STORIES yet? I know I am.[/QUOTE]Dunno man. I'm liking the real ones. One guy's stories are obviously fake. Hell, read some of his reviews on some of the other boards. They seem fake too.

Why aren't they called suck jobs? Things that make you go hmmm.

[QUOTE=Jadedone;4934858]Dunno man. I'm liking the real ones. One guy's stories are obviously fake. Hell, read some of his reviews on some of the other boards. They seem fake too.[/QUOTE]You actually think my stories are fake?? Just like the guy who said my stories are as real as a three dollar bill. My stories are as real as a two dollar bill!! And, I have a collection of those!!

[QUOTE=Tela1980;4934555]Blah, blah, blah. As "real" as a three dollar bill and poorly written to boot[/QUOTE]If you're going to critique a person's grammar at least correct them on it!!

[QUOTE=CactusJack828;4926591]It's obvious that jealous providers, clients, and / or agencies are posting fake negative reviews on Chicago's top provider. I have seen Kelani multiple times as well as other hobbyists I know personally that have been in the game for years. Not one has said a single bad thing about her. She is most definitely the best in the game. I guess you're not doing something right if you don't have haters.[/QUOTE]Great girl and great service. I'm not sure why there are so many non-review crazy posts.

[QUOTE=HanginBalls;4936089]If you're going to critique a person's grammar at least correct them on it!![/QUOTE]I shall do as I please! Quiet frankly I'm surprised the moderator has not stepped in and deleted some of your obviously fabricated posts.

[QUOTE=HanginBalls;4936085]You actually think my stories are fake?? Just like the guy who said my stories are as real as a three dollar bill. My stories are as real as a two dollar bill!! And, I have a collection of those!![/QUOTE]Your stories and posts read like erotic fan fiction.