Mighty Mick's Boxing Club

[QUOTE=LurkingDog;6359271]Robo. Sorry that happened to you. That sucks. And to whomever is doing the lowballing -- just stop it. Negotiate a price and then either stick to it or find another provider. It's quite simple. If she won't negotiate, you take her price or you go elsewhere. What is so difficult about this concept?

LD.[/QUOTE]I just got an update from him.

He says he got there and she wanted $100 for a Beejay.

Which is unheard of.

She told me he offered $20.

So one of them is lying.

Even when I first met her she was charging $30.

And I DO consider her above average in skills, plus she always smells good.

Not the best looking but she is clean.

I have noticed she does lie about things. But that is to be expected from Streetwalkers.

Matter of fact I set up a date with her, and when I arrived I saw her getting in someone car.

She was replying to texts up until the I was a few blocks away.

She maintains to this day that her phone died and she was out there looking for me yadda yadda yadda.

I spun the corner and picked up Crissy. Who surprisingly gave me the 2nd best performance I've had with her.

(BTW why are her fingers so fkd up?

[QUOTE=RoboPimp;6369332]I spun the corner and picked up Crissy. Who surprisingly gave me the 2nd best performance I've had with her.

(BTW why are her fingers so fkd up?[/QUOTE]I asked Chrissy what's going on with the fingers. She told me the drugs did that to her. Guess it doesn't bother her enough to find another hobby. Cause she's out there day in and day out.

I feel bad she's in that situation, between the fingers rotting away and the loser that follows her for drugs like a lost puppy. She's a sweet girl. No drama. I guess for her, life can't get much better. Years ago one would rarely see amputees working the street. Now from the garbage they put in their veins everywhere you look you see them. If they aren't losing hands and fingers they have lost arms and legs. That's a high fucking cover charge for that party. As the great Jim Morrison so eloquently stated, "No one gets out alive. " Only the real seniors will know what that means. Even the living are dead in various areas of the body. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6369700]I asked Chrissy what's going on with the fingers. She told me the drugs did that to her. Guess it doesn't bother her enough to find another hobby. Cause she's out there day in and day out.

I feel bad she's in that situation, between the fingers rotting away and the loser that follows her for drugs like a lost puppy. She's a sweet girl. No drama. I guess for her, life can't get much better. Years ago one would rarely see amputees working the street. Now from the garbage they put in their veins everywhere you look you see them. If they aren't losing hands and fingers they have lost arms and legs. That's a high fucking cover charge for that party. As the great Jim Morrison so eloquently stated, "No one gets out alive. " Only the real seniors will know what that means. Even the living are dead in various areas of the body. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Yea she is sweet. You can tell she'd be beautiful if clean.

I want to give her the $30 she asks for but. Damn I know its going straight to that krusty musty BF of hers.

FK THAT.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6369700]Years ago one would rarely see amputees working the street.[/QUOTE]It must have been 20 years now, but I remember seeing a girl in a wheelchair with no legs working the Ave. I must have drove past her a few times while looking for other girls. As I kept passing her by, I thought of all the other notches in my belt. White, black, Hispanic, Asian, mom / daughters, sisters, twins, aunts / nieces, midgets, etc, but not a single handicap pickup, so the little head decides to stop. I got her into car, threw the chair in back and it was at that moment I knew I had made a mistake. She smelled so bad from colostomy bag it was awful. One of the worst experiences I ever had, physically and mentally. That was the day I should stopped partaking in the hunt.

[QUOTE=ActionMan609;6372624]It must have been 20 years now, but I remember seeing a girl in a wheelchair with no legs working the Ave. I must have drove past her a few times while looking for other girls. As I kept passing her by, I thought of all the other notches in my belt. White, black, Hispanic, Asian, mom / daughters, sisters, twins, aunts / nieces, midgets, etc, but not a single handicap pickup, so the little head decides to stop. I got her into car, threw the chair in back and it was at that moment I knew I had made a mistake. She smelled so bad from colostomy bag it was awful. One of the worst experiences I ever had, physically and mentally. That was the day I should stopped partaking in the hunt.[/QUOTE]You got a full asian on the ave? I've only had partial Asians on the ave.

[QUOTE=RoboPimp;6356408]Guys,

If you ask me for a girl number try to not be a total weirdo.

I have a girl that I see who is not my body type favorite, but she is an excellent performer.

Girls performing like that do not settle for $20.

If I'm exchanging her number, she if a step above a $20 Streetwalker.

If I'm giving her a positive review she is not the average SW.

I understand some of you think a lower price is what gets a better rating.

Also, stop asking for nudes.

That is weird.

A man begging for nudes, is like a woman begging for cashapps.

Don't do it.[/QUOTE]If she's getting picked up on Kensington avenue then she's a $20 steer walker. I've had some of the best bjs in my life on the avenue. For $20.

Don't kid yourself. These are college coeds. They are drug addicts who turn tricks.

You want to overpay that's your choice. But I would never pay more turns 20-30 for anyone in Kensington.

[QUOTE=RoboPimp;6369332]I just got an update from him.

He says he got there and she wanted $100 for a Beejay.

Which is unheard of.

She told me he offered $20.

So one of them is lying.

Even when I first met her she was charging $30.

And I DO consider her above average in skills, plus she always smells good.[/QUOTE]You're only telling the partial story.

I picked her up and she said YOU told her I would pay $100.

That means one of you is lying cause who the fuck would pay a Kensington SW $100 ?

Seriously WTF?

I offered her $20 and she accepted. She didn't counter with $30.

Why would I pay more than what she was willing to accept?

And for the record she may have been one of your best but not mine.

We all have different preferences. She's a $20 SW.

And I don't know who you were referring to nudes but I never asked for nudes from her.

I don't want to see most of these SW nude.

[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;6375012]You got a full asian on the ave? I've only had partial Asians on the ave.[/QUOTE]I have been with Jade and Vanessa both Asians. Excellent performers. I don't think Jade is still around but I see Vanessa out there. Never had a problem with either. There is a good mix for those who take the time to find it. It's not always as easy as just pulling up and saying "get in". It can take hours sometimes to find that needle in the haystack. I understand the problem for many they can't devote the time it takes to search for what they really want. So, they take what they can get and call it a day. That's the luck of the draw. Sometimes we eat the bear and other times the bear eats us. The best thing to get the gems is to never give up the fight and always keep our eyes open. Never can tell when that diamond will be in your sights or maybe standing right next to us. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6369700]I asked Chrissy what's going on with the fingers. She told me the drugs did that to her. Guess it doesn't bother her enough to find another hobby. Cause she's out there day in and day out.

I feel bad she's in that situation, between the fingers rotting away and the loser that follows her for drugs like a lost puppy. She's a sweet girl. No drama. I guess for her, life can't get much better. Years ago one would rarely see amputees working the street. ....[/QUOTE]This may be the normal for awhile. Tranq as it's called on the street or xylazine is a sedative usually used on large animals. It's mixed with fentanyl to extend the high. The major problem for addicts other than overdoses with fentanyl was that the high doesn't last long enough (or as long as a high from H). People are actually getting to addicted to this new substance and there are no known treatment protocols for the addictions. That and the double wammy of the gaping wounds and rotting flesh makes it such a scourge that the USA Government is trying to ban the import of it from other countries. It's written up in the Inquirer NY Times, and CNN and probably in over 90% of the drugs sold on the Ave.

Stay safe out there!

[QUOTE=Mythbuster;6375110]This may be the normal for awhile. Tranq as it's called on the street or xylazine is a sedative usually used on large animals. It's mixed with fentanyl to extend the high. The major problem for addicts other than overdoses with fentanyl was that the high doesn't last long enough (or as long as a high from H). People are actually getting to addicted to this new substance and there are no known treatment protocols for the addictions. That and the double wammy of the gaping wounds and rotting flesh makes it such a scourge that the USA Government is trying to ban the import of it from other countries. It's written up in the Inquirer NY Times, and CNN and probably in over 90% of the drugs sold on the Ave.

Stay safe out there![/QUOTE]I agree with your informative post. What many do not realize is another additive is gasoline. That along with battery acid. I encounter many many users in my travels. It's rare now to find one that does not or has not had the wounds of which you speak. It's hard to understand why an addict would know these additives are mixed with the fentanyl and still inject it. Actual heroin is almost a thing of the past. It's not at all easy to find. I was speaking to a monger last night about a mutual acquaintance he has been trying to meet. I saw her and sent him a text that she was around. He drove to the location and she got in the car. They did the date and later he told me she had an unreal odor. Not body odor rather rotting flesh. That's what the additives do. It rots the flesh from the bones out. The animal tranquilizer / xylazine is only a part of the culprit. The cover charge for that party could very realistically be an arm and a leg. I would like to see a ban on the imports of this as it is destroying this generation. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6375200]I agree with your informative post. What many do not realize is another additive is gasoline. That along with battery acid. I encounter many many users in my travels. It's rare now to find one that does not or has not had the wounds of which you speak. It's hard to understand why an addict would know these additives are mixed with the fentanyl and still inject it. Actual heroin is almost a thing of the past. It's not at all easy to find. I was speaking to a monger last night about a mutual acquaintance he has been trying to meet. I saw her and sent him a text that she was around. He drove to the location and she got in the car. They did the date and later he told me she had an unreal odor. Not body odor rather rotting flesh. That's what the additives do. It rots the flesh from the bones out. The animal tranquilizer / xylazine is only a part of the culprit. The cover charge for that party could very realistically be an arm and a leg. I would like to see a ban on the imports of this as it is destroying this generation. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]What kind of sick bastard puts battery acid or gasoline in that junk? I remember hearing years ago about rat poison and just can't wrap my head around that mentality let alone why you would want to kill off your customer base.

[QUOTE=PinHead11;6375485]What kind of sick bastard puts battery acid or gasoline in that junk? I remember hearing years ago about rat poison and just can't wrap my head around that mentality let alone why you would want to kill off your customer base.[/QUOTE]To answer your question, but I think you already know the answer. The lowlife that mixes the garbage up for sale is the guilty boneheads. They don't really care if their customer base dies taking it. That's because when an addict does die from a bag the other addicts flock to that block thinking they can handle the potency. For the dealers, it comes as a win-win. They view an addict's death from taking their trash as just the cost of doing business. Todays drugs are a loaded gun pointed at every addicts head. Look around, it's just a matter of when the trigger gets pulled.

Years ago when an addict died it was usually because they thought they could fly. The older mongers here will remember those days. Every now and again another would die. Nobody paid much attention. Todays drugs are a totally different story. This fentanyl and xylazine mixture along with whatever else is handy is playing hell with this group of addicts. It doesn't look like the government can do much about it either. The city has pretty much thrown its hands in the air despite what the officials say at the press conferences. This city in particular is outgunned, outmanned outspent and pretty much outsmarted by those that run the drug markets here.

We all see the speeches and hear the promises but little comes of those. Hell, fancy slogans like Nancy Reagans Say No To Drugs did little to effect today's problem.

To be fair I don't know what can be done if anything with this problem. That said I have to sympathize with the city on the quandary they face. We also know this didn't just begin yesterday. The politicians saw their predecessors make bad promises so they decided to do the same. The trickle-down effect hits groups like addicts and prostitutes.

At this point even if the law catches up to those cutting their garbage with additional garbage such as gasoline, baby powder, rat poison, baking powder, battery acid, etc and they shut that mill down, there's another cockroach coming right behind them. That roach will pick up where the last one left off. That's the dilemma the police are faced with. Sadly the police are treading water on the issue. The proof of that is the increased number of large wounds and lost limbs of the girls working the streets. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=PinHead11;6375485]What kind of sick bastard puts battery acid or gasoline in that junk? I remember hearing years ago about rat poison and just can't wrap my head around that mentality let alone why you would want to kill off your customer base.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gator145;6375652]To answer your question, but I think you already know the answer. The lowlife that mixes the garbage up for sale is the guilty boneheads. They don't really care if their customer base dies taking it. [b]That's because when an addict does die from a bag the other addicts flock to that block thinking they can handle the potency.[/b] For the dealers, it comes as a win-win. They view an addict's death from taking their trash as just the cost of doing business. Todays drugs are a loaded gun pointed at every addicts head. Look around, it's just a matter of when the trigger gets pulled.
[/QUOTE]What Gator145 stated is the truth. Can't tell you how many girls have told me the exact same thing! Once someone OD's on a particular label of "stuff" everyone wants to get their hands on it! I mean if you are medicating, in part, because you want to escape from the world or be in a constant haze, then in a convoluted addicts mind, stronger is better. Yeah, they think they can handle it!

Oh and for those not aware, dealers stamp the "name" of their product on the little blue wax-paper bags the stuff comes in. Brand recognition after all. So when someone OD's on something called "Kill Bill" then many rush to find the Kill Bill stuff! Good for the dealer with increased sales.

Hey it's fucked up logic, but what does anyone expect from those that are mentally impaired by this stuff?

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6376736]What Gator145 stated is the truth. Can't tell you how many girls have told me the exact same thing! Once someone OD's on a particular label of "stuff" everyone wants to get their hands on it! I mean if you are medicating, in part, because you want to escape from the world or be in a constant haze, then in a convoluted addicts mind, stronger is better. Yeah, they think they can handle it!

Oh and for those not aware, dealers stamp the "name" of their product on the little blue wax-paper bags the stuff comes in. Brand recognition after all. So when someone OD's on something called "Kill Bill" then many rush to find the Kill Bill stuff! Good for the dealer with increased sales.

Hey it's fucked up logic, but what does anyone expect from those that are mentally impaired by this stuff?[/QUOTE]Gator, you are correct. I unfortunately knew the answer. You speak the truth and its a sad time. I thought when someone I knew years ago took a swan dive off a balcony that I had seen it all. Nope, it has only got worse.

Shampoo, I grasp why the dealers do what they do, I just can't in my mind 'get it' and I guess that's a good thing. Its so sad how people don't value human life. All for the money, fame or who knows why.

No Rest for the Wicked as Ozzy Osbourne sung about.

I have been to too many funerals, we have all seen what the drugs do and its unreal that it has become ok for the drug manufactures to hand out pain pills telling everyone- oh don't worry you can't get addicted. Yeah? Tell that to my friend who that is how she started and when the legal route to get pills dried up she went to get her high a different way. We all have seen this and know what the outcome is in most cases, and while not everyone started out with a couple 'Percs' from a friend but many do and it goes from there. This isn't just smoking a bit of weed.

Gator, You speak clearly, eloquently. I wish the politicians would stop all the b. S. Talk and really handle it. Let the chips fall where they may. I remember Nancy Regan and that time. If it was only that simple.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6375200] I would like to see a ban on the imports of this as it is destroying this generation. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]I think the police chief is done and out of a job by this time next year but I'm guessing some of her subordinates will be trying to impress an incoming administrations this summer! I hope no one thinks there is a quick fix. The problems in Kensington took years to get this bad and lab based products have been like lighter fluid on a fire. What would I do? Hamsterdam! I'm happy to say I survived the game on the ave and it's a game for younger men!

[QUOTE=RunnerForSex;6378682]I have seen Bunny several times in Philadelphia and will I continue to repeat. She's very pretty, friendly, toned petite body (no more than 98 pounds), sweet and very, very young (certainly under 25). Bunny gave me a warm greeting with a hug, LFK, grope and DFK. She gives a fabulous massage. I will return ASAP. F / B / S / A = 8/8/9/9. I desire nothing more than the Energizer Bunny.

She speaks excellent English. I am always very pleasantly surprised when the door opens and I see Bunny's beautiful face and inviting body. Bunny gave me a warm greeting with a hug, LFK, grope and DFK. Bunny was amazing in bed. Use your imagination. After all the action and being exhausted she gives me a fabulous massage. F / B / S / A = 8/8/9/9.[/QUOTE]Sock puppet account. Look at posting history.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;6381902]Sock puppet account. Look at posting history.[/QUOTE]Nice Catch! By the way, Hello RunnerForSex I mean Bunny!

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

[QUOTE=SamKatz;6382114]Nice Catch! By the way, Hello RunnerForSex I mean Bunny!

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.[/QUOTE]I am not Bunny. Just a lover of the Energizer Bunny. I have seen her in multiple cities. She is my style. Try it out and see for yourself.

[QUOTE=RunnerForSex;6382743]I am not Bunny. Just a lover of the Energizer Bunny. I have seen her in multiple cities. She is my style. Try it out and see for yourself.[/QUOTE]Umm okay anyone who reads your post history would see that it's obvious. I already thought something was off when I saw you rated her twice but relax! JTerry26 didn't say Bunny is bad and don't see her, I didn't say that either. And what you did wasn't all bad either as long as there's truth to it, same as a restaurant owner posting a review on Yelp / Google. Just saying, the Philly (Bucks, Montgomery, Delaware, Berks, etc) monger community is big but also small because it's divided up into its own niche. As for the escort scene, I just suggest that you give great unrushed enthusiastic service and things will work itself out naturally! The power of the internet is massive.

Anyways, thanks for the "Try it out and see for yourself" suggestion. Maybe one day I will. I understand you want more $people $ but just give great service like I said and you'll naturally get people coming back for more and word of mouth and good reviews. Just saying.

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;6381902]Sock puppet account. Look at posting history.[/QUOTE]All you succeeded in doing here was giving his post traction, the way advertising works. When they are reading the forum they will see this but when they drive past the place all they will remember is that a lot of guys were talking about them. The guys who make these sock accounts know that and rely on your guys who are just itching to "call people out" in order to help them advertise.

Why do you think there is a "report post" button on every post?

[QUOTE=SamKatz;6382114]Nice Catch! By the way, Hello RunnerForSex I mean Bunny!

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RunnerForSex;6382743]I am not Bunny. Just a lover of the Energizer Bunny. I have seen her in multiple cities. She is my style. Try it out and see for yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamKatz;6384508]Umm okay anyone who reads your post history would see that it's obvious. I already thought something was off when I saw you rated her twice but relax! JTerry26 didn't say Bunny is bad and don't see her, I didn't say that either. And what you did wasn't all bad either as long as there's truth to it, same as a restaurant owner posting a review on Yelp / Google. Just saying, the Philly (Bucks, Montgomery, Delaware, Berks, etc) monger community is big but also small because it's divided up into its own niche. As for the escort scene, I just suggest that you give great unrushed enthusiastic service and things will work itself out naturally! The power of the internet is massive.

Anyways, thanks for the "Try it out and see for yourself" suggestion. Maybe one day I will. I understand you want more $people $ but just give great service like I said and you'll naturally get people coming back for more and word of mouth and good reviews. Just saying.

Sam Katz aka AMPimp.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HankScorpio;6384618]A while back these shills were posting like crazy posting fake reviews. They almost took over. Now it looks like they are trying to come back.[/QUOTE]Yes, we cut way back on them because guys stopped giving them traction and started reporting them so that we could take care of them. It's not as much fun as "calling them out" but it does work, quoting them 20 times and calling them shills doesn't do anything at all.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;6384989]All you succeeded in doing here was giving his post traction, the way advertising works. When they are reading the forum they will see this but when they drive past the place all they will remember is that a lot of guys were talking about them. The guys who make these sock accounts know that and rely on your guys who are just itching to "call people out" in order to help them advertise.

Why do you think there is a "report post" button on every post?







Yes, we cut way back on them because guys stopped giving them traction and started reporting them so that we could take care of them. It's not as much fun as "calling them out" but it does work, quoting them 20 times and calling them shills doesn't do anything at all.

A2.[/QUOTE]My apologies. I'll use the report button in the future. My bad.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo4COqNWjQo[/URL]

Sham, one day you got to tell me how you get these chicks to fall in line.

Some things I don't understand.

Recent posts in De about girls that have what I would call serious health issues. When multiple reports of.

Odor, abscesses and pictures to show same- but guys keep seeing them.

Monger held against his will by a girl and her bf. But guys keep seeing her.

Then there is the new prices. 120 car BJ or 150 in-call BJ.

Are people THAT desperate. What gives?

[QUOTE=AnomBox;6401888]She found this forum.[/QUOTE]I found this on the sugar forum, seriously who gives a fuck. Some of these "SD's" huge eye roll, forget that even though they think of themselves as "Sugar Babies" they are still sex workers, if the review is good, she should be happy, if it's not who fucking cares because you won't fuck her again and if she's just trying to control you by telling you what you can and cannot do you need to remind her that guys with the money to play in that space are the rare thing not chicks who need to suck dick to pay the rent.

A2.

[QUOTE=PinHead11;6400831]Some things I don't understand.

Recent posts in De about girls that have what I would call serious health issues. When multiple reports of.

Odor, abscesses and pictures to show same- but guys keep seeing them.

Monger held against his will by a girl and her bf. But guys keep seeing her.

Then there is the new prices. 120 car BJ or 150 in-call BJ.

Are people THAT desperate. What gives?[/QUOTE]Just my thoughts, but it seems the sex market has been disrupted since the day that Craigslist and backpage disappeared as reliable sources. In the 80's and 90's, street action ruled. You can find great value everywhere. If you paying 150, you were getting the overnight treatment from a SW. Now days that SW might be on SA when she gets an internet connection for a day or two. The drugs are also just more vicious, so and addict in 2023 looks no where near as healthy as a crack ***** of the 90's. Perfect choices can be hard to find in the bargain aisles!

[QUOTE=Admin2;6402784]I found this on the sugar forum, seriously who gives a fuck. Some of these "SD's" huge eye roll, forget that even though they think of themselves as "Sugar Babies" they are still sex workers, if the review is good, she should be happy, if it's not who fucking cares because you won't fuck her again and if she's just trying to control you by telling you what you can and cannot do you need to remind her that guys with the money to play in that space are the rare thing not chicks who need to suck dick to pay the rent.

A2.[/QUOTE]Can I get an amen!?

[QUOTE=JTerry26;6403438]Can I get an amen!?[/QUOTE]Agreeed.

Who fucking cares if these women know about this site.

Only burbsmonger cares cause he's got a pole up his ass.

The SBs have FB groups to trade info on how to scam us.

We have USASG to share reviews and scammers.

If anyone is so concerned about this board "leaking" out then you shouldn't be in this hobby.

[QUOTE=KenAllen;6404297]Agreeed.

Who fucking cares if these women know about this site.

Only burbsmonger cares cause he's got a pole up his ass.

The SBs have FB groups to trade info on how to scam us.

We have USASG to share reviews and scammers.

If anyone is so concerned about this board "leaking" out then you shouldn't be in this hobby.[/QUOTE]Is it just me or are only about 10% of the ads on LC real? The vast majority of them seem completely fakie.

Chuck Marvel.

[QUOTE=ChuckMarvel;6411115]Is it just me or are only about 10% of the ads on LC real? The vast majority of them seem completely fakie.

Chuck Marvel.[/QUOTE]10% is too high in my book, more in 5% or 1 in 20. I think the deposit scam is so rampant that they wouldn't quit as long as they have rubes to send them money for doing nothing. I don't know much about the Listcrawler business model but if the would only ban the deposit seekers, they could be a legitimate website. STG has more real providers but by real I mean ex-SW's that learned that keeping a working phone number means they can charge $120 for what used to be a $25 Blowjob.

[QUOTE=DonTrask;6411378]10% is too high in my book, more in 5% or 1 in 20. I think the deposit scam is so rampant that they wouldn't quit as long as they have rubes to send them money for doing nothing. I don't know much about the Listcrawler business model but if the would only ban the deposit seekers, they could be a legitimate website. STG has more real providers but by real I mean ex-SW's that learned that keeping a working phone number means they can charge $120 for what used to be a $25 Blowjob.[/QUOTE]Right on! 5% to 10% real posts for LC / EA sounds about right. And yeah, apparently there is a sucker born everyday or this "deposit first" scam stuff wouldn't work. I mean if dudes just getting into the hobby would come here for an education they could avoid mistakes like that. IF LE were so inclined to do stings, it would be like shooting fish in a barrel: dudes calling from their phone registered with their real name, using money apps with their real names and inviting hookers, thieves and drug addicts to their home.

I have noticed that ALL the sites increasingly have fake profiles. On KA I check for out of area area codes, and out of area "registration location", and then for fake pics. Listcrawler / Escort Alligator check for out of area numbers and "borrowed" pics and even now on STG, many more fake posts showing up there.

But also the AMPs seem to advertise on the escorts sites as well as the trafficking schemes with girls from southern hemisphere, Spanish countries as well as a few traveling Asian outfits.

[QUOTE=ChuckMarvel;6411115]Is it just me or are only about 10% of the ads on LC real? The vast majority of them seem completely fakie.

Chuck Marvel.[/QUOTE]True. It's horrible. I haven't had a good experience in LC or STG the last year. I've given up on those sites.

I may have to start supplementing my weekly Kensington fix with AMPs. Haven't done those for over a year.

Seeking was my go to but that's also a lot of work and cost to value just isn't there for me.

[QUOTE=KenAllen;6412664]True. It's horrible. I haven't had a good experience in LC or STG the last year. I've given up on those sites.

I may have to start supplementing my weekly Kensington fix with AMPs. Haven't done those for over a year.

Seeking was my go to but that's also a lot of work and cost to value just isn't there for me.[/QUOTE]I think I asked on the escort board a month or so ago about how real the post were on LC. I've admittedly been out of that game for a bit but couldn't understand why there weren't tons of reviews on this board. The number of 'hot' postings is outrageous. The number of great reviews is ZERO! (or close to it) I find STG a little trashy but there seem to be better review from there, though it does seem to be littered with SW looking for a better rate, maybe they deserve it if they can keep a phone and provide hosting, who knows?

[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;6456470]I would consider myself a seasoned veteran. I have many regulars out there who go out of their way to see me. I get a long well with all of them.

With that said. I think sometimes you are forced into a situation where violence is your only option. Generally it is best to avoid red flags that lead up to violent situations but sometimes you are forced into it.

Most of the girls out there are at rock bottom. The good ones treat you well if you treat them well and vice versa. But there are some out there that have no problem ripping you off or hurting you for drug money.

There was one time where I had to get violent with someone. She didn't keep her end of the arrangement and I said I wasn't going to take her back. I let her keep the money. She took the money from the beginning but I didn't really want to fight over money, but she was being very unpleasant so I declined to take her back. It was probably just a 5 minute walk. Then she got angry and started attacking me. I'm probably double her size so I easily overpowered her, kicked her out and drove off.

I've been told that I'm much more buffer than the typical monger so even the threat of violence is enough to get rid of most problem girls.

Usually if there is an option to get rid of them for 5-10 dollars, I'd probably take it. I've even given one of my regulars half of what I was going to give her because she looked and smelled very gross and sickly that day.

I think we have disagreed with this in the past. Either you or someone else suggested having some fake bills to throw at them. Personally I'm not a big fan of fake bills. I imagine some mongers would try to rip girls off with fake bills and I'm generally not a fan of the idea of fake bills circulating around. And for me, the money is not a big loss for me. [b]I think it is better for the whole community to squash out the problem girls who make their drug money only ripping mongers off.[/b][/QUOTE]Yes BeefNoddleSoup, it is no secret that I have advocated and even pounded the table against violence against girls on these forums. That said I appreciate the kind way you approached this topic. Sorry you had a bad experience once.

What I will say, from my perspective, is that ANY agreement to use violence only gives cover to the numbnuts that are inclined toward violence anyway. Why should they change if they can point to someone who says it is OK? It is NOT okay!

But if you think about it, why would any monger turn a misdemeanor charge into a Felony? That is what adding violence to your play book does.

Personally I have never had to resort to violence, and have been in my fair share of scrapes. I always tell the girls, that you win better in the long run using your head & brains than your fists. So IF I ever had resorted to violence I would consider that a failure by me! Failure to be prepared, failure to have alternatives, failure to get out of a situation because I was too lazy to learn different techniques or a failure because I was unwilling to change.

Yes, fake bills is one technique. Sounds like, from VERY experienced monger Gator145, it is very effective for getting a problem girl out of the car. So if it is effective, then why would any monger reject tat tool, er, without having a equivalent replacement? I mean even if one loses the entire date amount (30-60) to insure perd.

One can wish to change the game, teach girls lessons and improve things, but when dealing with drug addled SWs thta likely isn't guna happen. So as mongers, we learn to do our best to avoid and manage conflict & danger. Let the experts deal with the social engineering.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6458233]Yes BeefNoddleSoup, it is no secret that I have advocated and even pounded the table against violence against girls on these forums. That said I appreciate the kind way you approached this topic. Sorry you had a bad experience once.

What I will say, from my perspective, is that ANY agreement to use violence only gives cover to the numbnuts that are inclined toward violence anyway. Why should they change if they can point to someone who says it is OK? It is NOT okay!

But if you think about it, why would any monger turn a misdemeanor charge into a Felony? That is what adding violence to your play book does.

Personally I have never had to resort to violence, and have been in my fair share of scrapes. I always tell the girls, that you win better in the long run using your head & brains than your fists. So IF I ever had resorted to violence I would consider that a failure by me! Failure to be prepared, failure to have alternatives, failure to get out of a situation because I was too lazy to learn different techniques or a failure because I was unwilling to change.

Yes, fake bills is one technique. Sounds like, from VERY experienced monger Gator145, it is very effective for getting a problem girl out of the car. So if it is effective, then why would any monger reject tat tool, er, without having a equivalent replacement? I mean even if one loses the entire date amount (30-60) to insure perd.

One can wish to change the game, teach girls lessons and improve things, but when dealing with drug addled SWs thta likely isn't guna happen. So as mongers, we learn to do our best to avoid and manage conflict & danger. Let the experts deal with the social engineering.[/QUOTE]I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Imagine you go to a restaurant and order a burger and they give you a turd in your burger. Then when you complain about it they start punching you. In this situation, it is perfectly reasonable to defend yourself and fight back. This is what some SW do. They don't intend to give any services and just try to get as much money from mongers as possible and some of them aren't afraid to use violence to get their way. In cases where they refuse to leave your car unless you give them money, it's like the restaurant holding you hostage until you give them money. It's best for society if we stand up to these bad actors.

I imagine there are some mongers who are physically unable to get violent. One girl told me about a monger that is disabled. They went to the Carlyle and she had to help him into a wheel chair and push him in. During the act, he was quite impotent so she pretty much just had to do a sensual lap dance.

I had a random thought the other day. I've probably seen hundreds of SW on the ave. If it is a fight to the death using only our bare hands, I think I can take all 100+ all at once. It is really no contest who would win. Therefore I don't use it against them unless the situation calls for it.

Regarding fake bills, I am against it. People on Kensington get killed over using fake bills. I imagine you don't have much of an economics background, but our trust in money is critical for a functioning society. Furthermore, I imagine most mongers who carry fake bills often use it to rip off girls, even those that do a good job.

To each their own. You are entitled to your opinion and you are entitled to play the game as you see fit. But for me, there are definitely times in life that call for violence. Additionally, I don't know what your financial situation is like, but I am in a pretty comfortable financial position. I really don't have to resort to using fake bills for anything. If you find it useful then go ahead and do what you do. I am just against it in principle.

[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;6459113]I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Imagine you go to a restaurant and order a burger and they give you a turd in your burger. Then when you complain about it they start punching you. In this situation, it is perfectly reasonable to defend yourself and fight back. This is what some SW do. They don't intend to give any services and just try to get as much money from mongers as possible and some of them aren't afraid to use violence to get their way. In cases where they refuse to leave your car unless you give them money, it's like the restaurant holding you hostage until you give them money. It's best for society if we stand up to these bad actors.

I imagine there are some mongers who are physically unable to get violent. One girl told me about a monger that is disabled. They went to the Carlyle and she had to help him into a wheel chair and push him in. During the act, he was quite impotent so she pretty much just had to do a sensual lap dance.

I had a random thought the other day. I've probably seen hundreds of SW on the ave. If it is a fight to the death using only our bare hands, I think I can take all 100+ all at once. It is really no contest who would win. Therefore I don't use it against them unless the situation calls for it.

Regarding fake bills, I am against it. People on Kensington get killed over using fake bills. I imagine you don't have much of an economics background, but our trust in money is critical for a functioning society. Furthermore, I imagine most mongers who carry fake bills often use it to rip off girls, even those that do a good job.

To each their own. You are entitled to your opinion and you are entitled to play the game as you see fit. But for me, there are definitely times in life that call for violence. Additionally, I don't know what your financial situation is like, but I am in a pretty comfortable financial position. I really don't have to resort to using fake bills for anything. If you find it useful then go ahead and do what you do. I am just against it in principle.[/QUOTE]Oh wow! I'm blown away that you believe what you wrote! SMH.

IF in yer scenario in the restaurant THEY start punching you, then you document it, call the police and have them arrested for assault / battery AND get an attorney and sue the pants off them. You just won the lottery! But NO! You punch back and YOU risk getting arrested too for assault, or whatever. You just blew your chance to win the lotto! In that example VIOLENCE is a terrible choice to make.

In the example of the girl, tossing her money, is the cost of doing bidness: an occasional loss. So what? You toss her some money to get her out of your car? You avoid being a douche who beats up helpless druggie girls? It happens to all of us. Do we like losing money- NO! But it happens. But thinking that beating the girl up is teaching her a lesson and better for society is just wrong. You ain't gunna change the girls, you ain't improving society. Rather you are degrading it by accepting Violence as the solution!

But I get it, some people are so animalistic and the only way they know how to deal with conflict is violence. That is why we are where we are in society. No more thick skin (sticks & stones), someone "offends" you they need to be "canceled," so pull out a gun & shoot them! I'm justified, I was OFFENDED! Sigh.

You can be against fake bills to rip off girls. I agree with that. So don't use fake bills to rip-off girls! But why can't you have some in your shirt pocket as a back-up plan to get rid of a problem girl? That is a valid technique you COULD use, to avoid Violence! BUT, if one remembers the discussion several months ago, Gator145 and other had several other techniques one could use to get a problem child outof your car. Surely one isn't unwilling to learn something new? Surely one doesn't know it all and can't pick up some new techniques to avoid violence?

Come on man! You're a seasoned monger, you're better than that! We are all always learning & adapting to the game. Me thinks you can learn and adapt too! Find some techniques to avoid violence!

Good luck!

[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;6459113]Regarding fake bills, I am against it. People on Kensington get killed over using fake bills. I imagine you don't have much of an economics background, but our trust in money is critical for a functioning society. Furthermore, I imagine most mongers who carry fake bills often use it to rip off girls, even those that do a good job.

To each their own. You are entitled to your opinion and you are entitled to play the game as you see fit. But for me, there are definitely times in life that call for violence. Additionally, I don't know what your financial situation is like, but I am in a pretty comfortable financial position. I really don't have to resort to using fake bills for anything. If you find it useful then go ahead and do what you do. I am just against it in principle.[/QUOTE]I have been around for a number of years I know of nobody that has been killed over fake bills. Possibly others here do just not me personally.

I can also say I have never been accused of nor will I ever use them to "rip-off girls" for any reason. "I imagine most mongers who carry fake bills often use it to rip off girls, even those that do a good job". I would say that takes quite an active imagination. I know a lot of mongers and I highly doubt they want to rip-off any of the girls. They want what they went there for then leave.

A wise person once told me it's usually those that insinuate others would do a questionable act because it's something they would do themselves. They've been there and done that. Hmmmm interesting to say the least.

For me personally, I've used them as a safe means to get somebody from my vehicle without having to harm them. Saves me from having to beat up 100 of them. No effort, they do work. No rip-off. Just trying to keep what's mine while I stay buff. It also offers mongers that rather avoid physical confrontation another less risky way to remove others from their vehicle. I have found that the path of least resistance is usually best for all concerned.

I would not categorize Kensington as being "a functioning society". Quite the opposite. A functioning society does not allow the Chaos that is present there. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6459344]Oh wow! I'm blown away that you believe what you wrote! SMH.

IF in yer scenario in the restaurant THEY start punching you, then you document it, call the police and have them arrested for assault / battery AND get an attorney and sue the pants off them. You just won the lottery! But NO! You punch back and YOU risk getting arrested too for assault, or whatever. You just blew your chance to win the lotto! In that example VIOLENCE is a terrible choice to make.

In the example of the girl, tossing her money, is the cost of doing bidness: an occasional loss. So what? You toss her some money to get her out of your car? You avoid being a douche who beats up helpless druggie girls? It happens to all of us. Do we like losing money- NO! But it happens. But thinking that beating the girl up is teaching her a lesson and better for society is just wrong. You ain't gunna change the girls, you ain't improving society. Rather you are degrading it by accepting Violence as the solution!

But I get it, some people are so animalistic and the only way they know how to deal with conflict is violence. That is why we are where we are in society. No more thick skin (sticks & stones), someone "offends" you they need to be "canceled," so pull out a gun & shoot them! I'm justified, I was OFFENDED! Sigh.

You can be against fake bills to rip off girls. I agree with that. So don't use fake bills to rip-off girls! But why can't you have some in your shirt pocket as a back-up plan to get rid of a problem girl? That is a valid technique you COULD use, to avoid Violence! BUT, if one remembers the discussion several months ago, Gator145 and other had several other techniques one could use to get a problem child outof your car. Surely one isn't unwilling to learn something new? Surely one doesn't know it all and can't pick up some new techniques to avoid violence?

Come on man! You're a seasoned monger, you're better than that! We are all always learning & adapting to the game. Me thinks you can learn and adapt too! Find some techniques to avoid violence!

Good luck![/QUOTE]Shampoo. In all seriousness, you and I are living in two different worlds. You must have lived a very sheltered life.

In the restaurant example, if you don't fight back you are dead. They are not dumb enough to let you go and so that you can return to sue them.

[URL]https://youtu.be/uqcbqzGcJMo[/URL]

Here is an example of one person who was put in a situation and couldn't fight back. He died. In this particular case, the victim's family members are lucky that this incident was caught on tape. Most of the time these incidents are not caught on tape. The victim didn't or couldn't fight back and they died and their attackers go on to live another day to victimize others.

Here is another unavoidable situation that I personally went through. I was meeting an escort who I have met several times before. Usually she would work out of a room in a crack house but on that day she had a room in a low budget motel in Jersey. After I boned her, I was returning to my car. Then some dude attacks me from behind and tackles me to the ground. While he was trying to bring me down, I thought he might have had a knife and tried to stab me. Luckily he didn't. We ended up wrestling for a few seconds before he gives up and runs off. My guess is that that guy was a jealous bf who didn't make any money that day stealing from stores. If I didn't fight back, he would have taken my wallet, phone, car keys. I would have been screwed or dead.

What would you do in that situation? My guess is you would no longer be around to preach your pacifist gospel.

Sometimes in life, especially in Philly, we are put into violent situations where we need to fight back or we suffer losses that we can't come back from.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6459379]I have been around for a number of years I know of nobody that has been killed over fake bills. Possibly others here do just not me personally.[/QUOTE]Just ask any SW what would happen to them if they get caught using fake bills with a drug dealer. Best case scenario is that get a beating. Worst case, they disappear and you don't hear from them. Typically if someone were to get killed using fake bills, it won't make it on the news. No one would know what happen to them. The only person I am aware of being killed for using fake bills is George Floyd and that is only because there were cameras capturing the whole thing. I am sure people are killed all the time for this reason. People in Kensington have definitely been killed for less.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6459379]I can also say I have never been accused of nor will I ever use them to "rip-off girls" for any reason. "I imagine most mongers who carry fake bills often use it to rip off girls, even those that do a good job". I would say that takes quite an active imagination. I know a lot of mongers and I highly doubt they want to rip-off any of the girls. They want what they went there for then leave.[/QUOTE]If you ask any SW, they will tell you some mongers try to use fake bills on them. You are either in active denial or very delusional.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6459379]A wise person once told me it's usually those that insinuate others would do a questionable act because it's something they would do themselves. They've been there and done that. Hmmmm interesting to say the least.[/QUOTE]You are insinuating that I rip off girls with fake bills? That is rich because I am adamantly against fake bills all together. Or were you talking about yourself. I really don't care what you do. I'm just saying I am against it in principle. If you can't afford real money, then do what you need to do. Just don't lie about it and pretend to be a saint about it.

To any rational person, a monger advocating the use of fake bills seems like he would use it to rip off girls. Reminds me of a SW I picked up recently. She looked like she was in her 50's but she said she was 27. Later she also said she had a 21 year old son. Something is not adding up.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6459379]For me personally, I've used them as a safe means to get somebody from my vehicle without having to harm them. Saves me from having to beat up 100 of them. No effort, they do work. No rip-off. Just trying to keep what's mine while I stay buff. It also offers mongers that rather avoid physical confrontation another less risky way to remove others from their vehicle. I have found that the path of least resistance is usually best for all concerned.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin]

If you advocate beating women for "ripping you off" again I will ban you.

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Some monger even rip off good SW with fake bills. I think these guys need a good beating too.

[QUOTE=Gator145;6459379]I would not categorize Kensington as being "a functioning society". Quite the opposite. A functioning society does not allow the Chaos that is present there. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]You really are an OL Gator. A senile old gator.

[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;6460097] You make a lot of baseless assumptions and imagine a lot of out-there scenarios. Yet, you offer no facts to substantiate what you claim except that if a girl uses a fake bill at a dealer her day will probably end rather badly.
"You are insinuating that I rip off girls with fake bills?" Naa you insinuated that by implying others do it.
"To any rational person, a monger advocating the use of fake bills seems like he would use it to rip off girls". Again naw. Things are not always the way they "SEEM" unless we twist them that way. Even so that doesn't mean that's the way things are. Try not to twist suggestions into something it wasn't intended to be. I don't view any monger that flexes his muscles on a website geared toward other men as rational anything. Most men here aren't at all impressed with that macho nonsense. I agree, there are some off-the-wall juiced-up women on the strip. So it's no big accomplishment to beat them.
"SW that rip off mongers need to be taught a lesson. Some times that involves a good beating". We can't teach others with our fists and then in the next breath claim to be rational. The two simply do not go together. Such a shame you wasted all those funds on a promising teaching career and ended up teaching on USASG kicking the asses of doped up prostitutes. Class is out Teach. Are you telling us you aren't better than that? Of course, you are.
"Some monger even rip off good SW with fake bills. I think these guys need a good beating too". You spend way too much time beating and imagining this scenario and that scenario. Maybe that's why you seem so frustrated over this topic. Even the great Muhammad Ali didn't beat everybody. SMH over and over.
You really are an OL Gator. A senile old gator.[/QUOTE]I'm done. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6458233]Yes BeefNoddleSoup, it is no secret that I have advocated and even pounded the table against violence against girls on these forums. That said I appreciate the kind way you approached this topic. Sorry you had a bad experience once.

What I will say, from my perspective, is that ANY agreement to use violence only gives cover to the numbnuts that are inclined toward violence anyway. Why should they change if they can point to someone who says it is OK? It is NOT okay!

But if you think about it, why would any monger turn a misdemeanor charge into a Felony? That is what adding violence to your play book does.

Personally I have never had to resort to violence, and have been in my fair share of scrapes. I always tell the girls, that you win better in the long run using your head & brains than your fists. So IF I ever had resorted to violence I would consider that a failure by me! Failure to be prepared, failure to have alternatives, failure to get out of a situation because I was too lazy to learn different techniques or a failure because I was unwilling to change..[/QUOTE]To say to never use violence is very bad advice. Kensington is a very dangerous place. If you are not willing or able to defend yourself, you are in for trouble. Many girls carry knives and other weapons, you should be prepared to defend yourself if things go south. Violence should not the first tool you use, but you should still have it in your toolbox in case the need arises. To suggest anything else is foolish.

I even picked up one girl who said she had a gun in her bag. I didn't believe her because if she had a gun that costs hundreds of dollars, she would not be doing $20 bjs with crusty old mongers like myself.

With that said, there are also other options like finding ways to ditch them and even trying to find an escape.

[QUOTE=SjtnaRefugee;6461168]So, there was an implied threat, but nothing more. And, I had booked a dirt cheap double (60, I think), so it wasn't worth worrying or fighting over such little money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;6459113]I had a random thought the other day. I've probably seen hundreds of SW on the ave. If it is a fight to the death using only our bare hands, I think I can take all 100+ all at once. It is really no contest who would win. Therefore I don't use it against them unless the situation calls for it.
[/QUOTE]I think I can also take 100 SW at once. Most of them are drugged up, nodding off, malnourished, etc. If they were coked up and had knives 3-5 of them could easily take me down.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo[/URL]

You got to know when to know when to hold 'them, know when to fold 'them, know when to walk away, and know when to run.

That's just my two cents. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.