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[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;5495370]You get so much more value for the money with SA girls and most are fine with what TNA girls wouldn't do or would charge a lot more to do. The $99/ month is a bargain for the results if you approach it with the right game IMHO.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree with this more. The hard truth is. If you can't afford the membership fee or if it bothers you then SA is not the place for you to be.
[QUOTE=QuickFoot;5508533]Here is what I learned from SA:
1. Meet in person over coffee or something in a public safe place for all. No money exchange at this point. Don't waste her time either. Get to one know one another and make sure that it is a fit.
2. Discuss arrangement possibly. I found that most of the girls are hoping for a couple thousand in allowance. That can be ppm or some direct monthly / weekly transfer. Almost everyone wanted to start ppm.
3. A Sugar baby typically doesn't like the idea of being an escort. Like any time you ongoingly date someone you can pretty much assume you will end up in bed at some point. But a lot of the SAs want to feel cared for. Basically treat them with respect and enjoy their company.
4. Everyone knows adult activities will take place. Just pretty much never at their place. There is really no such thing as incall. So keep that in mind too.
5. There are scammers, but they are so easy to spot. The women who will meet you for a quick tea / coffee / walk / etc. are the ones to continue with. Sending any money ahead of time is just stupid.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't hobby that much, LOL.
[QUOTE=Mizunate;5301787]Oddly, you're in a similar position as many of the women on SA or SB, which is why so many have profiles that say things like "let's respect each other's space and boundaries when we're apart".
A LOT of girls there want the cash, and the fun, and are not looking to have a proper 'relationship' out of it, so there's a good chance you'll be able to find someone who is okay being the 'other woman' so long as you're upfront with her that it's her role in your life.[/QUOTE]Howdy,
I'm new to the city -- question for those who've managed to have somewhat success with SA. How much PPM usually reels girls in for a non-sexual first meeting (coffee date or casual dinner date)? I prefer to meeting these girls in a casual setting first to make sure they don't have a screw loose. How much PPM are most girls happy to have fun for? I'm not looking for anything too crazy -- meet up for a dinner date every now & then and head back to the hotel afterwards, but I'd prefer to stay away from crack wh*res.
Also, somewhat off topic, but does Portland have a lot of 18-21 year old? From what I've seen I don't think there are any major universities in the area, but could be wrong.
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=OrangeTrees;5528674]Howdy,
I'm new to the city -- question for those who've managed to have somewhat success with SA. How much PPM usually reels girls in for a non-sexual first meeting (coffee date or casual dinner date)? I prefer to meeting these girls in a casual setting first to make sure they don't have a screw loose. How much PPM are most girls happy to have fun for? I'm not looking for anything too crazy -- meet up for a dinner date every now & then and head back to the hotel afterwards, but I'd prefer to stay away from crack wh*res.
Also, somewhat off topic, but does Portland have a lot of 18-21 year old? From what I've seen I don't think there are any major universities in the area, but could be wrong.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]PSU has almost 14,000 female undergrad students, according to census data there are more than 50 k young women 18-25 living in Portland.
Is that enough for you? .
[QUOTE=Lewdovico;5534040]PSU has almost 14,000 female undergrad students, according to census data there are more than 50 k young women 18-25 living in Portland.
Is that enough for you? .[/QUOTE]I had a date with an escort who was in an apartment building near campus. She was 10 minutes late because she told me her class ran long. It made me cum so hard.
She is on SA search in Woodland wa wants 300 for an hour of bare FS.
I passed, but I know some of you horn dogs would like her.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a3d79377-d2c6-4ee4-94c7-21669e5162b0[/URL]
300 will get you some but I passed.
[QUOTE=OrangeTrees;5528674]Howdy,
I'm new to the city -- question for those who've managed to have somewhat success with SA. How much PPM usually reels girls in for a non-sexual first meeting (coffee date or casual dinner date)? I prefer to meeting these girls in a casual setting first to make sure they don't have a screw loose. How much PPM are most girls happy to have fun for? I'm not looking for anything too crazy -- meet up for a dinner date every now & then and head back to the hotel afterwards, but I'd prefer to stay away from crack wh*res.
Also, somewhat off topic, but does Portland have a lot of 18-21 year old? From what I've seen I don't think there are any major universities in the area, but could be wrong.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I've had some ones that were offended when I offered them 300 for their "time", and none of them could host. Hell, I don't think some of them could even drive to meet me somewhere (smh). I don't offer, nor would I give more than 300. Unless they're looks and behavior are timeless or elegant, I offer less. Instead of offering 100 for a meet up, I'll give 75 or 50. Offer 250 and see what happens. I'm not a bad looking guy, just not a hot one either, so 250 and a good time isn't something they're likely to pass up unless they're too far out of my league and they know it. I like to meet SB's for a couple of reasons: they're not clock watchers, and a lot of the time if they're in their early 20's, they don't mind not using a cover. They're typically very clean.
[QUOTE=RamblinJavlin;5551405]I've had some ones that were offended when I offered them 300 for their "time", and none of them could host. Hell, I don't think some of them could even drive to meet me somewhere (smh). I don't offer, nor would I give more than 300. Unless they're looks and behavior are timeless or elegant, I offer less. Instead of offering 100 for a meet up, I'll give 75 or 50. Offer 250 and see what happens. I'm not a bad looking guy, just not a hot one either, so 250 and a good time isn't something they're likely to pass up unless they're too far out of my league and they know it. I like to meet SB's for a couple of reasons: they're not clock watchers, and a lot of the time if they're in their early 20's, they don't mind not using a cover. They're typically very clean.[/QUOTE]Never pay her for a first meeting, never ever ever! It's a time to feel each other out a bit, see how she looks and acts. Carry cash as most often these ****** will head to the car with you after an initial meet up.
If she insists on cash to just see you then hard next her.
[QUOTE=Smith1968;5551923]Never pay her for a first meeting, never ever ever! It's a time to feel each other out a bit, see how she looks and acts. Carry cash as most often these ****** will head to the car with you after an initial meet up.
If she insists on cash to just see you then hard next her.[/QUOTE]I don't offer or give into anyone's demands, nor who insists. I will GIVE them something for their time if they seem really cool and aren't a crack head. I don't necessarily expect we'll go straight to the house either. As far as "never, ever, ever", that's your deal, and if it works for you, great, but it always has worked out on the back end for me doing what I just described, which is playing it by ear.
Case in point. I once did an over-night stay with a girl. I verified that it would be for $800. I paid for certain things throughout our time together; food and the like. It was a great time!
Then the next time we stayed together I told her I was strapped for cash (which wasn't far from the truth), and would it be okay that we cut the dollar amount in half for the whole night. She was totally down! The reason being, I had built a rapport with her (plus, she liked me). She was a beautiful 26 year old gem who I was very attracted to, and I stayed close to 20 hours with her for $400. For what it's worth to you.
[QUOTE=RamblinJavlin;5553135]I don't offer or give into anyone's demands, nor who insists. I will GIVE them something for their time if they seem really cool and aren't a crack head. I don't necessarily expect we'll go straight to the house either. As far as "never, ever, ever", that's your deal, and if it works for you, great, but it always has worked out on the back end for me doing what I just described, which is playing it by ear.
Case in point. I once did an over-night stay with a girl. I verified that it would be for $800. I paid for certain things throughout our time together; food and the like. It was a great time!
Then the next time we stayed together I told her I was strapped for cash (which wasn't far from the truth), and would it be okay that we cut the dollar amount in half for the whole night. She was totally down! The reason being, I had built a rapport with her (plus, she liked me). She was a beautiful 26 year old gem who I was very attracted to, and I stayed close to 20 hours with her for $400. For what it's worth to you.[/QUOTE]That is actually very good advice. I too play it by ear and keep options on the table. I think we are on the same page regarding the girls who insist on it. I've given gas money, other little things just for fun and you are correct, it payed off big time down the road.
Frequent visitor to PDX here. Wanted to reccomend the app Whisper for non-pros 'cause you guys got it good here with that app. What follows here may seem like a shill (it's not) or a brag (well, sorta), but mostly wanted to relay my experience in case it helps anyone. Background: the app lets you post and respond anonymously to one or two line posts, then PM. It's used by working girls, horrible guys, non-pros and civilian ladies with mental health issues. I've hooked up about 5 times over the past year on there, mostly in California and Seattle. Mostly non working girls and all non-pros, but Portland has been a gold mine. It takes a lot of practice to wade through the 90% of it that's bullshit and scams, and a ton of time sending PMs and trying different post strategies. When you find a real woman, the key is the same as any other site you guys use: be funny, don't be creepy or desperate, come across as wealthy, down to earth and professional.
Night 1: Responded to a pretty generic ad from a girl that posted that she liked older men and women. Her chat rating and coherent responses indicated she was not a bot, a hooker deposit scam, or a working girl. Chat her up for a bit, exchange pics, convince her to hang out with me. She comes to my hotel. Early 20's, big tits, near spinner, cute as fuck. Like, adorable. She walks in, she's wet and ready to go, and 5 minutes later I'm fucking her raw in between face fucking her. She's not on BC so I pull out. No cost. Goes into my top 5.
Later that night, against my better judgment, I text SamanthaPDX (from TNA, but well known on LC). Seen her before. She is looking rougher but she'll still do anything. Creampie her and go to bed. DFK, BBFS, CIP, BBBJ. $$.
Night Two: Post an ad on the app implying I'm into no strings and also generous. Then reply to an ad of someone nearby 'wanting to hang out'. Brief chat, pics exchanged. We agree to meet at the hotel bar. She's broke as it turns out. We have a drink, I invite her to my room to get stoned. We do. Ask her if we can do sexual things. She is demure but she had put 2 and 2 together. Same guy who answered her ad just posted something about being generous. So, she says what's in it for me? I say a lot of fun and the cash in my wallet. Hmm, she's never done that before, but she considers it. HOLY FUCK YES. Turns out she's a sub so no problem closing the deal. This girl is in her early 20's, fucking hot as fuck. Quite literally looks like she's in porn. Nice tits, a little tummy, incredible ass, shaved pussy. Easily one of the 5 hottest girls I've ever fucked. Pull down her tights. DFK, BBJ, BBFS. She's super into it. I love when they feel naughty for fucking for money. I ask, she's not on BC either (what the fuck? So pull out again. This one goes into the top 3. $1. 6, about 3 hours.
Don't ask for contact info for the non-pros. The first was not a working girl at all and the second is not from Portland and leaving town. If you want Samantha's info, sure, but you can get that easily. My point is, try Whisper, especially when traveling. Be cool, and see what happens.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cd231563-b497-4597-b63e-31ddcc7de579[/URL]
Wants a paid meet and greet because you know, time is money.
Pass.
Thanks, Downtown Dave! Whisper is crap where I live, but I can see it being useful in the Portland area. I had written it off with the low usage in my area. (or the next time I travel for work, which will be on the 27th of fucking never with COVID LOL).
I checked out S. A. After reading a couple of posts here about Sugar Babies. I scanned through the ads and saw what the girls there wanted and so I made a profile there to see what would happen. Like a lot of guys I tried other dating sites, I spent the dough for the membership and received little to no response on all the sites I joined. I read somewhere here that there was a better response because the cost of membership was higher therefore the women there knew mongers were more serious about the service exchange. What happened in my situation was not mentioned here.
First of all, I received more profile views in one day then I received in one month of a standard dating website. Second, I received inquiries from females close to me. The first inquiry was from a young 21 yr old girl who I made a date with next week. Then I received another inquiry from another lady closer to my age who I am going to meet for lunch this week.
Both ladies are looking for an encounter and to be compensated, but they also offer a GFE experience and want to have regular meetings. IDK if I am going to MPs once or twice a month and dealing with a crap shoot for basic service, I thinking I am going to give this a try.
I had detailed text conversations with both ladies regarding service agreements. The meetings are for the purpose of feeling out to see if there is chemistry and to come to an agreement. Both were open to casual relationship with not much more then I would spend at the MPs, but they also want more than just a wham bam thank you mam. Stay tuned.
The 21 yr old:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6284a85f-d60a-4615-b30d-7b3b26133791[/URL]
Closer to my age:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/07950d2b-fbfd-4b6a-a8f7-d5388ae28319[/URL]