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[QUOTE=Tela1980;4053848]The 50 K and 300 K statement doesn't bother me so much (since those munbers don't impress me in the least), it's his wishing ill-will on the streetwalkers.
I've always thought if someone gets scammed in this racket it is most certainly his fault.[/QUOTE]It doesn't seem like he's wishing ill will on all walkers, just the scammers which is fine with me. The guy is right. The men tend to have more to lose than them which is why they can get away with what they do.
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I've always thought if someone gets scammed in this racket it is most certainly his fault.[/QUOTE]Well I believe its our fault knowing that we are dealing with addicts (desperate liars) in the first place but whose fault is it when a SW gets raped, beaten or robbed? I guess they're to blame. Its like you're saying we deserved to be betrayed when its an agreement between 2 adults. WTF?
I learned early on that SW's are bad news! I was getting my dick sucked in a Rush Street alley. Young, dumb and drunk. I woke up the next morning at home and realized my money was gone. That was the last time for me. Most SW's are pick pockets and will fuck You without having sex!
How does having a snap of a monger going inside a Hotel mean so little?
Look it this way, if MCE ever gets caught, which is highly likely, the pictures and video stored on the phones or whatever device that's stored in, can still be accessed and then cross referenced with the written client information and IDs provided. All of that is worrisome for fellow mongers. Pictures and video can be leaked, and all the married men, would pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars in legal fines, spousal support and child support.
Information provided to escort agencies are never deleted, they store it somewhere else. Do you think a agency like MCE would delete 10 k client information. Highly doubt it.
So it's a big deal.
The office staff doesn't have to be at all hotels that the girls are in, they can be at a few or just one hotel to take pictures or video of clients entering the hotel.
This is part of the agency thread # 1009.
You said you have screencaps then post it. No need of this speculating. Once again, videos are too much effort and resource intensive. MCE doesn't need it. Records of the booking process is leverage enough. Between the two, that is a stronger evidence.
MCE have like 8 girls downtown and 4 at o'hare daily. Ofcourse no agency worth its salt would place all of its girls on the same hotel. But let's just assume MCE is stupid and they put all their girls on the same hotel. They would require at least one full time guy downtown taking pics from 9 to 11 and another one at o'hare, 7 days a week. This is the least amount of effort you'll require just to replicate your story.
Some of these shills must think we're not very bright.
[QUOTE=LipstickOnMe;4114338]How does having a snap of a monger going inside a Hotel mean so little?
Look it this way, if MCE ever gets caught, which is highly likely, the pictures and video stored on the phones or whatever device that's stored in, can still be accessed and then cross referenced with the written client information and IDs provided. All of that is worrisome for fellow mongers. Pictures and video can be leaked, and all the married men, would pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars in legal fines, spousal support and child support.
Information provided to escort agencies are never deleted, they store it somewhere else. Do you think a agency like MCE would delete 10 k client information. Highly doubt it.
So it's a big deal.
The office staff doesn't have to be at all hotels that the girls are in, they can be at a few or just one hotel to take pictures or video of clients entering the hotel.
This is part of the agency thread # 1009.[/QUOTE]Same can be said for any agency or independent that screens brother, sounds like you exclusively have a problem with just one agency, how about you leave some reviews for EEC then the rest of us can decide where the best hoofers are, until then you are going off on one agency and haven't talked about any pussy.
[QUOTE=LipstickOnMe;4114338]How does having a snap of a monger going inside a Hotel mean so little?
Look it this way, if MCE ever gets caught, which is highly likely, the pictures and video stored on the phones or whatever device that's stored in, can still be accessed and then cross referenced with the written client information and IDs provided. All of that is worrisome for fellow mongers. Pictures and video can be leaked, and all the married men, would pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars in legal fines, spousal support and child support.
Information provided to escort agencies are never deleted, they store it somewhere else. Do you think a agency like MCE would delete 10 k client information. Highly doubt it.
So it's a big deal.
The office staff doesn't have to be at all hotels that the girls are in, they can be at a few or just one hotel to take pictures or video of clients entering the hotel.
This is part of the agency thread # 1009.[/QUOTE]All Agencies keep information. It's common knowledge if you read the news. I don't see why a picture of a guy going into hotel for a "meeting" is a big deal. I do it all the time. I highly doubt that MCE pays a guy to sit at all the hotels to get pictures of guys coming in. I'm still calling BS.
[QUOTE=JHobby;4114685]You said you have screencaps then post it. No need of this speculating. Once again, videos are too much effort and resource intensive. MCE doesn't need it. Records of the booking process is leverage enough. Between the two, that is a stronger evidence.
MCE have like 8 girls downtown and 4 at o'hare daily. Ofcourse no agency worth its salt would place all of its girls on the same hotel. But let's just assume MCE is stupid and they put all their girls on the same hotel. They would require at least one full time guy downtown taking pics from 9 to 11 and another one at o'hare, 7 days a week. This is the least amount of effort you'll require just to replicate your story.
Some of these shills must think we're not very bright.[/QUOTE]I can post the screenshots and post more information about MCE, then you mongers would be able to connect everything together. However, I'm not competition as you guys think. I can post it up when I please, but I rather have competition deal with MCE. Competition can do much worser things than I. Doesn't mean I won't post it, it's the matter of when. Markus and Andra, they are just novice people in the industry they have made so many mistakes they don't know, but I digress.
You guys need to read my post, I've stated that MCE did the recordings and taking of pics in the past when they were CEC. There was a typo in the word past under agency thread. MCE has connections to the Hotel mangers in Chicago, they can easily give videos of clients entering the hotel and leaving. Markus has to bribe the men manning the stations somehow, either discounts with his girls or something else just so the girls won't be busted.
To FruitNinja. If you aren't married, sure it's not a big deal. But if the mongers are married, likely 90% of us are using escorts. The pictures and video are time stamped. So if the list is exposed and the spouses wants to know if their husbands wasn't telling the truth about staying late for work or for whatever reason of a excuse. Well, that time stamp photo or video entering the Hotel with the list exposed can connect together. Then the wifey won't be happy at all.
Who would MCE expose the alleged list to? Why would they expose it? Would they blackmail the mongers? Not following your point.
[QUOTE=LipstickOnMe;4115443]I can post the screenshots and post more information about MCE, then you mongers would be able to connect everything together. However, I'm not competition as you guys think. I can post it up when I please, but I rather have competition deal with MCE. Competition can do much worser things than I. Doesn't mean I won't post it, it's the matter of when. Markus and Andra, they are just novice people in the industry they have made so many mistakes they don't know, but I digress.
You guys need to read my post, I've stated that MCE did the recordings and taking of pics in the past when they were CEC. There was a typo in the word past under agency thread. MCE has connections to the Hotel mangers in Chicago, they can easily give videos of clients entering the hotel and leaving. Markus has to bribe the men manning the stations somehow, either discounts with his girls or something else just so the girls won't be busted.
To FruitNinja. If you aren't married, sure it's not a big deal. But if the mongers are married, likely 90% of us are using escorts. The pictures and video are time stamped. So if the list is exposed and the spouses wants to know if their husbands wasn't telling the truth about staying late for work or for whatever reason of a excuse. Well, that time stamp photo or video entering the Hotel with the list exposed can connect together. Then the wifey won't be happy at all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;4115531]Who would MCE expose the alleged list to? Why would they expose it? Would they blackmail the mongers? Not following your point.[/QUOTE]OMG, you mongers can't think.
When MCE gets caught, if and when they do get caught. It's only a matter of time. Referring to agency thread post # 975. MCE the owner, Markus states to Hi99.
Lastly, thank you for your post because at the end of the day there is no marketing that's bad. We have hundreds if not thousands of clients that have experienced our agency and are satisfied with the level of service, professionalism, and safety. ".
There is Marketing that is bad. Especially the one above. You think law enforcement doesn't see this and MCE emails? Jeeze!
The list can get exposed, and it's highly likely or unlikely it can be leaked out. MCE can blackmail clients as they have clients info, video and photos. It has happened in the past that they had to take care of several mongers bad behavior.
[QUOTE=LipstickOnMe;4115443]I can post the screenshots and post more information about MCE, then you mongers would be able to connect everything together. However, I'm not competition as you guys think. I can post it up when I please, but I rather have competition deal with MCE. Competition can do much worser things than I. Doesn't mean I won't post it, it's the matter of when. Markus and Andra, they are just novice people in the industry they have made so many mistakes they don't know, but I digress.
You guys need to read my post, I've stated that MCE did the recordings and taking of pics in the past when they were CEC. There was a typo in the word past under agency thread. MCE has connections to the Hotel mangers in Chicago, they can easily give videos of clients entering the hotel and leaving. Markus has to bribe the men manning the stations somehow, either discounts with his girls or something else just so the girls won't be busted.
To FruitNinja. If you aren't married, sure it's not a big deal. But if the mongers are married, likely 90% of us are using escorts. The pictures and video are time stamped. So if the list is exposed and the spouses wants to know if their husbands wasn't telling the truth about staying late for work or for whatever reason of a excuse. Well, that time stamp photo or video entering the Hotel with the list exposed can connect together. Then the wifey won't be happy at all.[/QUOTE]I'm confused. In your previous posts, you stated that they were taking pictures and recording as we enter / leave, as in assuming Andra and Markus. Now you're saying they are bribing hotels to share images from their security cameras with MCE so Mce then stores them? So which one is the story because it looks like you're looking track of the lies LOL.
Seriously though. Post the proof that supports your allegations or move along, brother.
So MCE isn't really taking videos right now after I pointed what a huge waste of time it is. Okay.
You still haven't addressed why a video is any more a leverage than records of the booking. If MCE wants to blackmail mongers, like what you seem to be implying to, then why again waste effort on pics of mongers entering a hotel when they could just show the conversation?
Previously you seem to be implying that MCE was hiring someone to do all the snooping, all of a sudden they have access to hotel cameras after all. The plot thickens.
Why not post the sceeencaps now? After all you're so concerned about us mongers that you want us to avoid MCE. Well now is the chance to scare mongers away. If competition have something then they wouldn't hesitate to use it, like you're doing right now. Your logic does not follow.
[QUOTE=JHobby;4115620]So MCE isn't really taking videos right now after I pointed what a huge waste of time it is. Okay.
You still haven't addressed why a video is any more a leverage than records of the booking. If MCE wants to blackmail mongers, like what you seem to be implying to, then why again waste effort on pics of mongers entering a hotel when they could just show the conversation?
Previously you seem to be implying that MCE was hiring someone to do all the snooping, all of a sudden they have access to hotel cameras after all. The plot thickens.
Why not post the sceeencaps now? After all you're so concerned about us mongers that you want us to avoid MCE. Well now is the chance to scare mongers away. If competition have something then they wouldn't hesitate to use it, like you're doing right now. Your logic does not follow.[/QUOTE]I was threatened one time by MCE, for asking one of their girls a question. When I asked her that question, she didn't seemed bothered at all. She kindly said no to my request and we continued to have a great time in our session. Then 10 minutes after I leave the room and head to my car, I received a text message from one of the bookers threatening me to not ever ask that question again or else they would send "security" up to confront me. And I thought that was the weirdest thing ever said to me by an agency. I don't think the girl I saw snitched on me, because she seemed to enjoy the session as much as I did. I don't want to say what I asked or which girl I saw, because I don't want to get in more trouble or blacklisted by this agency, because I believe this is the best agency in the city model-wise. But I just remembered reading that threat on telegram made me think they were listening and monitoring our session.
Reading this story was rather confusing. Perhaps I didn't go far enough back in the thread. From what the last few posts seem to imply, someone is accusing an agency of what? Getting hotel staff to provide security footage to an agency? Having a guy onsite films customers entering hotels? Seems pretty far-fetched since its far simpler to hide a security camera in the room. That would be a form of protection against bad behavior, and of course information that could be used for blackmail purposes. And yes, a picture is worth a thousand words. I've never gone to a hotel with an agency girl. Always seemed too risky, especially when a friend would go to a hotel for free.
[QUOTE=JHobby;4115620]So MCE isn't really taking videos right now after I pointed what a huge waste of time it is. Okay.
You still haven't addressed why a video is any more a leverage than records of the booking. If MCE wants to blackmail mongers, like what you seem to be implying to, then why again waste effort on pics of mongers entering a hotel when they could just show the conversation?
Previously you seem to be implying that MCE was hiring someone to do all the snooping, all of a sudden they have access to hotel cameras after all. The plot thickens.
Why not post the sceeencaps now? After all you're so concerned about us mongers that you want us to avoid MCE. Well now is the chance to scare mongers away. If competition have something then they wouldn't hesitate to use it, like you're doing right now. Your logic does not follow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob521;4116031]Reading this story was rather confusing. Perhaps I didn't go far enough back in the thread. From what the last few posts seem to imply, someone is accusing an agency of what? Getting hotel staff to provide security footage to an agency? Having a guy onsite films customers entering hotels? Seems pretty far-fetched since its far simpler to hide a security camera in the room. That would be a form of protection against bad behavior, and of course information that could be used for blackmail purposes. And yes, a picture is worth a thousand words. I've never gone to a hotel with an agency girl. Always seemed too risky, especially when a friend would go to a hotel for free.[/QUOTE]The original allegation is that an MCE staff is snooping at hotel recording mongers entering hotels. Seeing how irrational that notion is, the allegation now evolved that MCE is secretly working with hotels to access their cameras.
Is it possible to record videos inside the room? Yes. Do you have confidence that some of these girls have the wits to do that? What if one of the mongers found out? Would you leave a girl in the same room as an irate dude? Seriously, what is the less riskier path for all parties involved? The goal is to protect the girls, not endanger them.
I don't know with you but some of you guys come up with holywood stories to make hobbying more fantastical and complicated than it is. Again, screencap of the booking process itself is the strongest evidence an agency needs.
Also for the guy that got snitched on by the girl, that's exactly what probably happened. How loud was your request? Were you perhaps speaking at a mic? LOL.