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I told you in the post before the dumbass took on everyone at once, because he is a maroon. Had he started picking them off one at a time he absolutely would have succeeded. Instead he let his yuuuuge ego get in the way and will not get near the deals he could have gotten had he worked it slowly.[/QUOTE]You do know NAFTA is being renegotiated now, right? You do know we are negotiating tariff's with China now, right? The negotiating is going on right NOW. It's not done. You say he failed? You say he should have worked it slowly? Granted, it's not going as slow as you are, but nothing is as slow as you.

Why are you not embarrassed by how stupid and uninformed you are? OMG, you really do have down syndrome, don't you?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=BoyRiider69;3874652]You do know NAFTA is being renegotiated now, right? You do know we are negotiating tariff's with China now, right? The negotiating is going on right NOW. It's not done. You say he failed? You say he should have worked it slowly? Granted, it's not going as slow as you are, but nothing is as slow as you.

Why are you not embarrassed by how stupid and uninformed you are? OMG, you really do have down syndrome, don't you?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]The servers were turned over to the authorities as soon as the back was discovered, try and keep up.

Yes they are renegotiating NAFTA, Asia, and Europe all at the same time and those economies together are a good bit larger than ours giving them more leverage than they deserve, you know The Art of the Steal! He would have been able to get better deals if he would have chased them down separately, but like you his over inflated waistline and ego would not allow this so now he is borrowing money from our enemies to give 12,000,000,000 dollars in aid to farmers harmed by his recklessness. But you already knew this didn't you, and that is on top of the $20,000,000,000 they already recieve!

MAGA!

[QUOTE=PipeFighter94;3875745]The servers were turned over to the authorities as soon as the back was discovered, try and keep up.

Yes they are renegotiating NAFTA, Asia, and Europe all at the same time and those economies together are a good bit larger than ours giving them more leverage than they deserve, you know The Art of the Steal! He would have been able to get better deals if he would have chased them down separately, but like you his over inflated waistline and ego would not allow this so now he is borrowing money from our enemies to give 12,000,000,000 dollars in aid to farmers harmed by his recklessness. But you already knew this didn't you, and that is on top of the $20,000,000,000 they already recieve!

MAGA![/QUOTE]Republicans -Conservatives they are not and the last few decades have shown this to be true. Anyone who would take the time to research couldn't argue the numbers.

The loans this nation secured to pay for the two Gulf Wars will still be paid on by our grandchildrens grandchildren grandchildren.

Let that sink in!!

This admin has thrown us deeper into debt all the while pushing us into a corner with this US AGAINST THEM MENTALITY.

It is going to take years to undo what is transporting right now right before our eyes.

We're in trouble and if this POS potus takes us to war we're never dig out of the debt and we'll be making China the top dog by default.

[QUOTE=WorthlessPieceOfShit94;3875745]The servers were turned over to the authorities as soon as the back was discovered, [/QUOTE]No dumbdumb, servers not turned over to law enforcement or intelligence. Do you know who CROWDSTRIKE is? Of course you don't. You are an uninformed retard!

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[QUOTE=StupidCunt94;3875745]The servers were turned over to the authorities as soon as the back was discovered, try and keep up.

Yes they are renegotiating NAFTA, Asia, and Europe all at the same time and those economies together are a good bit larger than ours giving them more leverage than they deserve, you know The Art of the Steal! He would have been able to get better deals if he would have chased them down separately, but like you his over inflated waistline and ego would not allow this so now he is borrowing money from our enemies to give 12,000,000,000 dollars in aid to farmers harmed by his recklessness. But you already knew this didn't you, and that is on top of the $20,000,000,000 they already recieve!

MAGA![/QUOTE]You said he failed, now you are agreeing with me that negotiations are still going. A retard like you is not qualified to criticize how they are eing done. You do realize that Trump has multiple people doing the negotiating, right? You flunked out of high school because you are a retard.

Flunking out killed your dream of becoming a priest. You SOOOOOOOOO wanted to bang alter boys. Your father / son time inspired your aspiration but your retardation killed your dream!

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This admin has thrown us deeper into debt all the while pushing us into a corner with this US AGAINST THEM MENTALITY.

It is going to take years to undo what is transporting right now right before our eyes.

We're in trouble and if this POS potus takes us to war we're never dig out of the debt and we'll be making China the top dog by default.[/QUOTE]The legislative branch controls the budget, not the executive branch. SO, no, the President did not cause the debt. BTW, if one examines tax receipts after Trump tax cuts, you will discover that we are experiencing record tax revenue. The national debt went from $10T to $20T while Obama was the president and democrats were in charge, all while substantially cutting defense spending. Where is your outrage?

The Obama administration practiced identity politics which divided people. Clinton called Trump supports deplorables and democrats continue to practice identity politics. Trump dividing us? He was hated by leftists well before he became president. I can understand why Mexicans don't like him, but he is the American president, not the Mexican president.

If you are a blue collar person, the question is why are you not a supporter of the president? If you are blue collar and opposed to the president, then someone convinced you to vote against your self interest. If you are a welfare bum, then you are going to hate Trump.

War? Weakness is provocative and leads to more war. Obama was weak. Trump is strong. Liberals on one hand say Trump is a pussy on another hand say he's taking us to war. Make up your mind. One has to think for himself and not just parrot what your liberal masters tell you to say and think. Trump is asserting strength to reestablish the deterrence which was lost over the Obama years. Are these concepts too difficult for liberals to understand?

[QUOTE=ManFourWoman;3875786]Republicans -Conservatives they are not and the last few decades have shown this to be true. [/QUOTE]I certainly agree that a Conservative and a Republican are not the same thing. For a conservative to win any election, he first needs to defeat the Republican party before he can defeat the dimwit party. Of course, Conservatives have to live somewhere, so the Republican party is less hostile than the socialist dimwit party.

Trump fucks playmates and pornstars, yet even guys on this board hate him. Too funny!

[QUOTE=LowRider69;3876234]The legislative branch controls the budget, not the executive branch. SO, no, the President did not cause the debt. BTW, if one examines tax receipts after Trump tax cuts, you will discover that we are experiencing record tax revenue. The national debt went from $10T to $20T while Obama was the president and democrats were in charge, all while substantially cutting defense spending. Where is your outrage?

The Obama administration practiced identity politics which divided people. Clinton called Trump supports deplorables and democrats continue to practice identity politics. Trump dividing us? He was hated by leftists well before he became president. I can understand why Mexicans don't like him, but he is the American president, not the Mexican president.

If you are a blue collar person, the question is why are you not a supporter of the president? If you are blue collar and opposed to the president, then someone convinced you to vote against your self interest. If you are a welfare bum, then you are going to hate Trump.

War? Weakness is provocative and leads to more war. Obama was weak. Trump is strong. Liberals on one hand say Trump is a pussy on another hand say he's taking us to war. Make up your mind. One has to think for himself and not just parrot what your liberal masters tell you to say and think. Trump is asserting strength to reestablish the deterrence which was lost over the Obama years. Are these concepts too difficult for liberals to understand?[/QUOTE]If you don't think presidents can't cause deficits than I guess there is no need for further conversation because you're clueless. You're thinking anyone who disagrees with TrumpTARD#1 is a liberal shows you're also ignorant LOL.

Exactly!! Trump has co-opted the Republican Party and it's incredibly bizarre to watch.

[QUOTE=LowRider69;3876251]I certainly agree that a Conservative and a Republican are not the same thing. For a conservative to win any election, he first needs to defeat the Republican party before he can defeat the dimwit party. Of course, Conservatives have to live somewhere, so the Republican party is less hostile than the socialist dimwit party.

Trump fucks playmates and pornstars, yet even guys on this board hate him. Too funny![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LowRider69;3876234]He was hated by leftists well before he became president.[/QUOTE]I've been a progressive all my life and when I thought of him, which wasn't often, I only thought he was a buffoon as did everybody I know. I still think he's a buffoon. If you think he's a conservative then you are as well. He's clearly using the office for personal enrichment and not much else.

I probably would too.

Though I gotta add, it's nobody's business except his wife's who he fucks. Though it might be the countries business that he was untruthful about saying he never authorized any payoffs. This new tape clearly shows he did. I also think that's Cohens way of saying you better get in front of this with a pardon because I have worse.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3876667]I've been an ignorant SOCIALIST all my life and when I thought of him, which wasn't often, I only thought he was a buffoon as did everybody I know. I still think he's a buffoon. If you think he's a conservative then you are as well. He's clearly using the office for personal enrichment and not much else.

I probably would too.

Though I gotta add, it's nobody's business except his wife's who he fucks. Though it might be the countries business that he was untruthful about saying he never authorized any payoffs. This new tape clearly shows he did. I also think that's Cohens way of saying you better get in front of this with a pardon because I have worse.[/QUOTE]Your comments are silly. You have been watching too much fake news! Your liberal masters are keeping you unaware and compliant. You should see a mental health professional for your Trump Derangement Syndrome. LOL.

[QUOTE=ManFourWoman;3876269]If you don't think presidents can't cause deficits than I guess there is no need for further conversation because you're clueless. You're thinking anyone who disagrees with TrumpTARD#1 is a liberal shows you're also ignorant LOL.[/QUOTE]If I couldn't defend my position, I would say the same thing you just said. LOL.

The legislative branch is made up of the House and Senate, known collectively as the Congress. Among other powers, the legislative branch makes all laws, declares war, regulates interstate and foreign commerce and controls taxing and spending policies.

The constitutional provision making Congress the ultimate authority on government spending passed with far less debate. The framers were unanimous that Congress, as the representatives of the people, should be in control of public funds—not the President or executive branch agencies.

Did somebody cut government class in high school?

The exec branch spends.

Congress can't force the exec to spend.

[QUOTE=LowRider69;3877471]The legislative branch is made up of the House and Senate, known collectively as the Congress. Among other powers, the legislative branch makes all laws, declares war, regulates interstate and foreign commerce and controls taxing and spending policies.

The constitutional provision making Congress the ultimate authority on government spending passed with far less debate. The framers were unanimous that Congress, as the representatives of the people, should be in control of public fundsnot the President or executive branch agencies.

Did somebody cut government class in high school?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;3877478]The exec branch spends.

Congress can't force the exec to spend.[/QUOTE]Yes they can. They can impeach.

Impoundment is an act by a President of the United States of not spending money that has been appropriated by the U.S. Congress. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to exercise the power of impoundment in 1801. The power was available to all presidents up to and including Richard Nixon, and was regarded as a power inherent to the office. The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 was passed in response to perceived abuse of the power under President Nixon. Title X of the Act removed that power, and Train v. City of New York (whose facts predate the 1974 Act, but which was argued before the U.S. Supreme Court after its passage), closed potential loopholes in the 1974 Act. The president's ability to indefinitely reject congressionally approved spending was thus removed.[1]