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[QUOTE=BigtimeMonger;3474577][blue]That "certain monger" didn't post here.
The post you are crowing about as evidence of his hypocrisy was posted elsewhere and I moved it here.
So, now that you have been proven to be as wrong as a human can be are you big enough to post an apology?[/blue][/QUOTE]Sure. I'm happy to apologize. And thanks for keeping the un-useful comments out of the report threads!
[blue]A2 is impressed.
Tip o the hat to the man for having integrity.
A2[/blue]
No offence to anyone, sometime when I read the reviews here, mainly in AMP reviews, they are too good to be true. I was reading a post from a TNA provider that some dude reached out to her, that he will write nice review about her if she pay $75 per review.
Not sure these reviews here also the same. Either they are writing reviews for money or they might be the one running the AMP. So fellow mongers, don't expect same experience or jump to go there based on reviews.
I am just another monger who does have some experience.
"Good Good Time" guy is bailing out saying "You can go check my profile, decent number of reviews, all authentic". if your review is true, you dont need bailout statements
[QUOTE=BobGopal;3548615]No offence to anyone, sometime when I read the reviews here, mainly in AMP reviews, they are too good to be true. I was reading a post from a TNA provider that some dude reached out to her, that he will write nice review about her if she pay $75 per review.
Not sure these reviews here also the same. Either they are writing reviews for money or they might be the one running the AMP. So fellow mongers, don't expect same experience or jump to go there based on reviews.
I am just another monger who does have some experience.
"Good Good Time" guy is bailing out saying "You can go check my profile, decent number of reviews, all authentic". if your review is true, you dont need bailout statements[/QUOTE]I felt it was necessary, given the rash of "advertisement" reviews on here. I simply wanted to confirm the fact that I am a senior member who actually had the experience. You can believe it or not, but if you can't see why saying that in this instance makes sense, nothing I write will change your opinion. However, I wouldn't screw up membership on this great site that has gotten me laid safely dozens of times for $75, or any other amount.
[QUOTE=Lance547;3974184]I have to admit, I wouldn't want sex workers soliciting work and servicing clients in my neighborhood let alone on my block. I'm pro sex work and I can understand why residents would be upset for these type of activities to be taking place outside their own front door.
It's such a shame that sex work is criminalized and sex workers are forced to solicit in the streets. Every city should have a red light industrial area for these type of activities then there wouldn't be much of a problem anywhere else.
That said, LE knows where sex work takes place regardless if it's out of a hotel, massage parlor, or on the street and surprisingly depending on the agency they will leave everyone alone so as long as they don't get any complaints from residents and the location stays quiet and low key.[/QUOTE]If you're really pro sex work what would it matter that there was some chick entertaining a few clients in your building? It happens down here I lived on the same floor as a working girl and there was never an issue.
When the hobby is legal junkies can't compete because the money is too good and real talent moves in.
A2.
[QUOTE=Admin2;3974349]If you're really pro sex work what would it matter that there was some chick entertaining a few clients in your building? It happens down here I lived on the same floor as a working girl and there was never an issue.
When the hobby is legal junkies can't compete because the money is too good and real talent moves in.
A2.[/QUOTE]Commercialised sex work belongs in a industrial location away from residential areas. If a woman wants to service a few clients per month out of an apartment that's fine, but you can't have a whole bunch of women in a apartment servicing the whole town.
Sometimes you have to think of other people, you many be OK with living around sex work but most people don't want to live around a brothel or anything sex work related.
[QUOTE=Lance547;3975267]Commercialised sex work belongs in a industrial location away from residential areas. If a woman wants to service a few clients per month out of an apartment that's fine, but you can't have a whole bunch of women in a apartment servicing the whole town.
Sometimes you have to think of other people, you many be OK with living around sex work but most people don't want to live around a brothel or anything sex work related.[/QUOTE]Does a hair salon need to be in an industrial area away from residential areas? Does an oil change shop? What about a nail salon? All of these are personal services. If you remove the moral bullshit sex work is exactly the same. It's a personal service nothing more nor less. Why don't those tight ass fucks have to think of the other people who they are preventing from getting a blowjob without wasting a bunch of gas?
Now, if a place isn't zoned for personal services and there can't be a nail shop either that's fine. In Amsterdam you have to walk past the window girls and the weed stores to get to some churches and the dutch don't seem to mind. That's because they accept that nobody got born without somebody getting fucked and fucking is good. They also accept that other people fucking is none of their business so long as everybody doing it is a grown up and doing it freely.
Remove the puritan values and there is no issue. It's just a personal service if you live in a free society.
Here this is what happens when you don't criminalize vice and stay out of other people's shit.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/ComedyCentral/videos/amsterdam-ride-along-the-jim-jefferies-show/266040677352421/[/URL]
Like Jeffries says, in Holland you can smoke a joint and bang a hooker while standing in front of a cop, that's freedom.
A2.
PS I moved this to the fight thread. Not because we are fighting, this doesn't seem acrimonious to me, but rather because it's not really about streetwalkers.
Running the strip for many is a sport. For others it's a hobby. There does exist some that it has become a job.
We see them all the time. People out there just for the sport. Those that want to prove either to themselves or to others they still got it. That's one of the fallacies of the sport.
Tricking us into thinking things are different than they really are.
Quite often here I tend to speak of realities of various situations. So let's look at the reality of the sport.
For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.
Then there also are the fetish seekers. Those that for whatever reasons cannot satisfy their desires on the home front. So they take to the streets thinking someone will meet their needs and put the beast back in its cage for another few days. At least until it somehow gets free and the urge arises again. Many of these participants tend to want what others may consider to be out of the ordinary. So they hit the strip in the never ending search for the holy grail. Some find it few can hang on to it. Yet it's out there somewhere.
Sometimes their needs are met for a price. Other times they drive home empty handed except for the loose meat in their hand. Only to head back out another day with high hopes. The cycle then repeats itself. We are creatures of habit. That is an understood fact of the game. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. Happens to the best of us.
Being creatures of habit is one reason many get pulled over, ticketed and even locked up by LEO. They never truly "set up a sting". Active participants sting themselves. LEO knows creatures of habit will return given a reason to. Human nature. LEO simply facilitates the process. Dangle the bait and the fish will bite sooner or later.
There are the misconceptions also. They are the participants that believe a provider calls or text them because they are special to her. NEWS FLASH JUST IN. None of us are special. It's our wallet that is so special. You know what I'm talking about. That little black or brown bill fold that you just never leave home without it. Because without it in this game you are just like every other average Joe. What does set you apart from Average Joe and makes you someone special are those little greenbacks. Not with standing then for the short time you spend with your dream girl you become special. Hell, you even may become decent looking.
Now it's a known fact that bullshit has been running amuck for generations. Never confuse bullshit for reality. You will lose every time. I have no issue with those that have a high opinion of themselves. It serves the male ego well. It's just any time we find ourselves thinking we are special, or that a girl is any different from us guys then disappointment can't be far behind. If we try and climb that slippery slope of bullshit it's only natural at some point to find ourselves back at the bottom of the slope.
There are four major lies in our society. 1. It's not going to hurt. 2. No you can't get pregnant the first time or as long as I pull it out. 3. I love you. 3. You are special. 4. You are the best looking guy I know. Keeping that in mind please read on.
Recently I happened to read a post from Escort Reports in Virginia. Following is some of what the poster had to say. Which simply validates the misconceptions, dreams, and fallacies faced in this hobby.
Here are parts of the post. "I consider myself one that they prefer to be with, as I have had several of them contacting me, asking me to come visit. (Well who can honestly dispute the truth of that. Especially if it was a hooker that told you so)? This is probably because I am normal, decent looking, treat them with respect. (Did a hooker also mention that)? The good ones are good actresses and I have had multiple ones tell me this. I definitely do not want to be with someone who is not into the session or not friendly and accommodating. (Lucky he never ran up against an actress yet). I prefer providers 30 and older because I feel that they are doing this more by their own choice, rather than by necessity. " (Yup. It has always been my suspicion The 30 and older crowd did this purely out of pleasure and couldn't possibly be out of necessity. No logical reason they would want to do it except they enjoy it).
I read this and found myself ROTF LMFAO. Why? You may ask. The reason is the poster has over fifty posts and really should know better than some of the things they state here.
So, he considers himself a trick they prefer to be with. Dreamer, dream on. Highly unlikely at best. They have found themselves an easy mark. They prefer that steady source of funding for the drugs and what ever other vices they indulge in. When they ring his phone they have but one goal in mind. It has nothing to do with pleasing him or meeting his needs. It's their needs they are trying to meet. Before he even answers the phone she has a good idea of what the financial end result will be. Chances she already has that funding heading for a specific "need". Rarely do they ever put it in the cookie jar for future use.
I don't wish to be the bubble buster of the day. I just find what this post has to say very humorous. Is this person so deep into the fantasy he actually is at the point he believes any and every compliment hanging out of the bucket of bullshit slung at him?
Don't you just love the term Regular? They like to place that moniker on us. As we do on them. They feel if they tell the other girls we are their regular it keeps them at bay.
Here's the reality again nobody is a regular in this sport. Regular only in a source of income and to bust a nut. Then it's on to the next one.
To clarify, they say clandestinely what I come right out point blank and lay on the line. Let the funding dry up. Lose your source of income. Then I bet none of them ring you up to even find out if you made it out of the fire alive last night at your house.
He considers himself "normal and decent looking". Really? Who has a case on themselves here? We are all decent looking to someone even if it's only to ourselves. It is ourselves that do the first evaluation of each and every day. I would never depend on a working girl for myself esteem.
These girls go from zero to B**ch faster than light hits the bulb after flipping the switch.
As for normal? That depends upon what level of normal we seek. In our own eyes most of us consider ourselves normal. In Virginia normal to them could be fucking a goat or their cousin. We have our little quirks here they may find peculiar also. So it's the white coats that believe something is wrong with us.
Let a working girl get really pissed off at this guy just one time and we will see how special he is or what his level of normal goes to.
I think this is a classic case of dreaming, confusion, and misconceptions at its best.
Mainly because I have no doubt the poster truly believes what they posted. You know, that fun filled carnival ride that goes on forever until we run out of tickets. Then comes the bad news. The real bad news. We need to get off and make room for paying riders. I won't argue with any of the points he made. My position is I'm just saying the way I see it.
That's business. It's the American way. No money no honey. Right? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
I'm fortunate to still have it with women in their 30's and 40's and 50's. Given my age that's very satisfying. But I've never had trouble shelling out for hot 20 somethings. 20 something girls aren't really ever going to fall for a guy my age. It's fun to sport fuck though. Sex with 20 something girls is always for sport.
[QUOTE=Gator145;3980860]Running the strip for many is a sport. For others it's a hobby. There does exist some that it has become a job.
We see them all the time. People out there just for the sport. Those that want to prove either to themselves or to others they still got it. That's one of the fallacies of the sport.
Tricking us into thinking things are different than they really are.
Quite often here I tend to speak of realities of various situations. So let's look at the reality of the sport.
For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.
Then there also are the fetish seekers. Those that for whatever reasons cannot satisfy their desires on the home front. So they take to the streets thinking someone will meet their needs and put the beast back in its cage for another few days. At least until it somehow gets free and the urge arises again. Many of these participants tend to want what others may consider to be out of the ordinary. So they hit the strip in the never ending search for the holy grail. Some find it few can hang on to it. Yet it's out there somewhere.
Sometimes their needs are met for a price. Other times they drive home empty handed except for the loose meat in their hand. Only to head back out another day with high hopes. The cycle then repeats itself. We are creatures of habit. That is an understood fact of the game. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. Happens to the best of us.
Being creatures of habit is one reason many get pulled over, ticketed and even locked up by LEO. They never truly "set up a sting". Active participants sting themselves. LEO knows creatures of habit will return given a reason to. Human nature. LEO simply facilitates the process. Dangle the bait and the fish will bite sooner or later.
There are the misconceptions also. They are the participants that believe a provider calls or text them because they are special to her. NEWS FLASH JUST IN. None of us are special. It's our wallet that is so special. You know what I'm talking about. That little black or brown bill fold that you just never leave home without it. Because without it in this game you are just like every other average Joe. What does set you apart from Average Joe and makes you someone special are those little greenbacks. Not with standing then for the short time you spend with your dream girl you become special. Hell, you even may become decent looking.
Now it's a known fact that bullshit has been running amuck for generations. Never confuse bullshit for reality. You will lose every time. I have no issue with those that have a high opinion of themselves. It serves the male ego well. It's just any time we find ourselves thinking we are special, or that a girl is any different from us guys then disappointment can't be far behind. If we try and climb that slippery slope of bullshit it's only natural at some point to find ourselves back at the bottom of the slope.
There are four major lies in our society. 1. It's not going to hurt. 2. No you can't get pregnant the first time or as long as I pull it out. 3. I love you. 3. You are special. 4. You are the best looking guy I know. Keeping that in mind please read on.
Recently I happened to read a post from Escort Reports in Virginia. Following is some of what the poster had to say. Which simply validates the misconceptions, dreams, and fallacies faced in this hobby.
Here are parts of the post. "I consider myself one that they prefer to be with, as I have had several of them contacting me, asking me to come visit. (Well who can honestly dispute the truth of that. Especially if it was a hooker that told you so)? This is probably because I am normal, decent looking, treat them with respect. (Did a hooker also mention that)? The good ones are good actresses and I have had multiple ones tell me this. I definitely do not want to be with someone who is not into the session or not friendly and accommodating. (Lucky he never ran up against an actress yet). I prefer providers 30 and older because I feel that they are doing this more by their own choice, rather than by necessity. " (Yup. It has always been my suspicion The 30 and older crowd did this purely out of pleasure and couldn't possibly be out of necessity. No logical reason they would want to do it except they enjoy it).
I read this and found myself ROTF LMFAO. Why? You may ask. The reason is the poster has over fifty posts and really should know better than some of the things they state here.
So, he considers himself a trick they prefer to be with. Dreamer, dream on. Highly unlikely at best. They have found themselves an easy mark. They prefer that steady source of funding for the drugs and what ever other vices they indulge in. When they ring his phone they have but one goal in mind. It has nothing to do with pleasing him or meeting his needs. It's their needs they are trying to meet. Before he even answers the phone she has a good idea of what the financial end result will be. Chances she already has that funding heading for a specific "need". Rarely do they ever put it in the cookie jar for future use.
I don't wish to be the bubble buster of the day. I just find what this post has to say very humorous. Is this person so deep into the fantasy he actually is at the point he believes any and every compliment hanging out of the bucket of bullshit slung at him?
Don't you just love the term Regular? They like to place that moniker on us. As we do on them. They feel if they tell the other girls we are their regular it keeps them at bay.
Here's the reality again nobody is a regular in this sport. Regular only in a source of income and to bust a nut. Then it's on to the next one.
To clarify, they say clandestinely what I come right out point blank and lay on the line. Let the funding dry up. Lose your source of income. Then I bet none of them ring you up to even find out if you made it out of the fire alive last night at your house.
He considers himself "normal and decent looking". Really? Who has a case on themselves here? We are all decent looking to someone even if it's only to ourselves. It is ourselves that do the first evaluation of each and every day. I would never depend on a working girl for myself esteem.
These girls go from zero to B**ch faster than light hits the bulb after flipping the switch.
As for normal? That depends upon what level of normal we seek. In our own eyes most of us consider ourselves normal. In Virginia normal to them could be fucking a goat or their cousin. We have our little quirks here they may find peculiar also. So it's the white coats that believe something is wrong with us.
Let a working girl get really pissed off at this guy just one time and we will see how special he is or what his level of normal goes to.
I think this is a classic case of dreaming, confusion, and misconceptions at its best.
Mainly because I have no doubt the poster truly believes what they posted. You know, that fun filled carnival ride that goes on forever until we run out of tickets. Then comes the bad news. The real bad news. We need to get off and make room for paying riders. I won't argue with any of the points he made. My position is I'm just saying the way I see it.
That's business. It's the American way. No money no honey. Right? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Gator145;3980860]Running the strip for many is a sport. For others it's a hobby. There does exist some that it has become a job.
We see them all the time. People out there just for the sport. Those that want to prove either to themselves or to others they still got it. That's one of the fallacies of the sport.
Tricking us into thinking things are different than they really are.
Quite often here I tend to speak of realities of various situations. So let's look at the reality of the sport.
For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.
Then there also are the fetish seekers. Those that for whatever reasons cannot satisfy their desires on the home front. So they take to the streets thinking someone will meet their needs and put the beast back in its cage for another few days. At least until it somehow gets free and the urge arises again. Many of these participants tend to want what others may consider to be out of the ordinary. So they hit the strip in the never ending search for the holy grail. Some find it few can hang on to it. Yet it's out there somewhere.
Sometimes their needs are met for a price. Other times they drive home empty handed except for the loose meat in their hand. Only to head back out another day with high hopes. The cycle then repeats itself. We are creatures of habit. That is an understood fact of the game. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. Happens to the best of us.
Being creatures of habit is one reason many get pulled over, ticketed and even locked up by LEO. They never truly "set up a sting". Active participants sting themselves. LEO knows creatures of habit will return given a reason to. Human nature. LEO simply facilitates the process. Dangle the bait and the fish will bite sooner or later.
There are the misconceptions also. They are the participants that believe a provider calls or text them because they are special to her. NEWS FLASH JUST IN. None of us are special. It's our wallet that is so special. You know what I'm talking about. That little black or brown bill fold that you just never leave home without it. Because without it in this game you are just like every other average Joe. What does set you apart from Average Joe and makes you someone special are those little greenbacks. Not with standing then for the short time you spend with your dream girl you become special. Hell, you even may become decent looking.
Now it's a known fact that bullshit has been running amuck for generations. Never confuse bullshit for reality. You will lose every time. I have no issue with those that have a high opinion of themselves. It serves the male ego well. It's just any time we find ourselves thinking we are special, or that a girl is any different from us guys then disappointment can't be far behind. If we try and climb that slippery slope of bullshit it's only natural at some point to find ourselves back at the bottom of the slope.
There are four major lies in our society. 1. It's not going to hurt. 2. No you can't get pregnant the first time or as long as I pull it out. 3. I love you. 3. You are special. 4. You are the best looking guy I know. Keeping that in mind please read on.
Recently I happened to read a post from Escort Reports in Virginia. Following is some of what the poster had to say. Which simply validates the misconceptions, dreams, and fallacies faced in this hobby.
Here are parts of the post. "I consider myself one that they prefer to be with, as I have had several of them contacting me, asking me to come visit. (Well who can honestly dispute the truth of that. Especially if it was a hooker that told you so)? This is probably because I am normal, decent looking, treat them with respect. (Did a hooker also mention that)? The good ones are good actresses and I have had multiple ones tell me this. I definitely do not want to be with someone who is not into the session or not friendly and accommodating. (Lucky he never ran up against an actress yet). I prefer providers 30 and older because I feel that they are doing this more by their own choice, rather than by necessity. " (Yup. It has always been my suspicion The 30 and older crowd did this purely out of pleasure and couldn't possibly be out of necessity. No logical reason they would want to do it except they enjoy it).
I read this and found myself ROTF LMFAO. Why? You may ask. The reason is the poster has over fifty posts and really should know better than some of the things they state here.
So, he considers himself a trick they prefer to be with. Dreamer, dream on. Highly unlikely at best. They have found themselves an easy mark. They prefer that steady source of funding for the drugs and what ever other vices they indulge in. When they ring his phone they have but one goal in mind. It has nothing to do with pleasing him or meeting his needs. It's their needs they are trying to meet. Before he even answers the phone she has a good idea of what the financial end result will be. Chances she already has that funding heading for a specific "need". Rarely do they ever put it in the cookie jar for future use.
I don't wish to be the bubble buster of the day. I just find what this post has to say very humorous. Is this person so deep into the fantasy he actually is at the point he believes any and every compliment hanging out of the bucket of bullshit slung at him?
Don't you just love the term Regular? They like to place that moniker on us. As we do on them. They feel if they tell the other girls we are their regular it keeps them at bay.
Here's the reality again nobody is a regular in this sport. Regular only in a source of income and to bust a nut. Then it's on to the next one.
To clarify, they say clandestinely what I come right out point blank and lay on the line. Let the funding dry up. Lose your source of income. Then I bet none of them ring you up to even find out if you made it out of the fire alive last night at your house.
He considers himself "normal and decent looking". Really? Who has a case on themselves here? We are all decent looking to someone even if it's only to ourselves. It is ourselves that do the first evaluation of each and every day. I would never depend on a working girl for myself esteem.
These girls go from zero to B**ch faster than light hits the bulb after flipping the switch.
As for normal? That depends upon what level of normal we seek. In our own eyes most of us consider ourselves normal. In Virginia normal to them could be fucking a goat or their cousin. We have our little quirks here they may find peculiar also. So it's the white coats that believe something is wrong with us.
Let a working girl get really pissed off at this guy just one time and we will see how special he is or what his level of normal goes to.
I think this is a classic case of dreaming, confusion, and misconceptions at its best.
Mainly because I have no doubt the poster truly believes what they posted. You know, that fun filled carnival ride that goes on forever until we run out of tickets. Then comes the bad news. The real bad news. We need to get off and make room for paying riders. I won't argue with any of the points he made. My position is I'm just saying the way I see it.
That's business. It's the American way. No money no honey. Right? Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]I have appreciated your wisdom and insight since moving here. I listen to everyone's opinions and try to respect as many as I can. We all pay for it for one reason or another. Whether you couldn't get laid in a ***** house with a fist full of hundreds or have the mojo of Don Juan. From the 30 streetwalker BJ's to $1000 an hour escorts. As you mentioned I think the number one rule to never lose sight of is the REAL reason why these women do this. The greenbacks in your pocket. But if some guy spends his money and gets some illusion that he is special in her eyes who cares. While I agree with you he may not be the smartest bulb in the shed he hasn't hurt anyone and paid his money to get whatever feeling he wants. Does it really warrant the time tearing him apart? More than anything I think when you look at this whole thing as a sport is when it is time to take a step back a re think things. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=Gator145;3980860]Running the strip for many is a sport. For others it's a hobby. There does exist some that it has become a job.
We see them all the time. People out there just for the sport. Those that want to prove either to themselves or to others they still got it. That's one of the fallacies of the sport.
Tricking us into thinking things are different than they really are.
Quite often here I tend to speak of realities of various situations. So let's look at the reality of the sport.
For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.
Then there also are the fetish seekers. Those that for whatever reasons cannot satisfy their desires on the home front. So they take to the streets thinking someone will meet their needs and put the beast back in its cage for another few days. At least until it somehow gets free and the urge arises again. Many of these participants tend to want what others may consider to be out of the ordinary. So they hit the strip in the never ending search for the holy grail..[/QUOTE]I do agree with you for the most part, but a few thoughts:
What isn't told in the public is that all romantic relationships are basically a barter system. All men pay for sex and female companionship in one way or another which means that there isn't too much of a difference between a wife, a gf, or a prostitute.
Secondly, working girls can absolutely prefer to do business with certain men over others. If you're a gentleman, you're good looking and polite, absolutely you can get preferred treatment.
[QUOTE=Kbear6577;3981550]I have appreciated your wisdom and insight since moving here. I listen to everyone's opinions and try to respect as many as I can. We all pay for it for one reason or another. Whether you couldn't get laid in a ***** house with a fist full of hundreds or have the mojo of Don Juan. From the 30 streetwalker BJ's to $1000 an hour escorts. As you mentioned I think the number one rule to never lose sight of is the REAL reason why these women do this. The greenbacks in your pocket. But if some guy spends his money and gets some illusion that he is special in her eyes who cares. While I agree with you he may not be the smartest bulb in the shed he hasn't hurt anyone and paid his money to get whatever feeling he wants. Does it really warrant the time tearing him apart? More than anything I think when you look at this whole thing as a sport is when it is time to take a step back a re think things. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]For those that are under the above impression they still got it, lets evaluate the reality. If we are paying for it then we don't still have it. We lost it the very first time we shelled out dollar one for the forbidden fruit. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking any different. It's when you get it for free, that's when you still got it.
Gator give us examples of men who get it for free! I doubt you will find any.
If the women still has it she would not be accepting funds for her services. Works both ways doesn't it. The women still thinks she has the touch also.
Regardless of what party still has it or not the relationship is mutual use at the core level.
[QUOTE=Kbear6577;3981550] While I agree with you he may not be the smartest bulb in the shed he hasn't hurt anyone and paid his money to get whatever feeling he wants. Does it really warrant the time tearing him apart? More than anything I think when you look at this whole thing as a sport is when it is time to take a step back a re think things. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]I guess I didn't explain myself well. The actual post was not intended to tear apart anyone. Quite the opposite. That's why I didn't include the authors web site name or the date of the post. So if the post came off that way my apologies to all who didn't get it.
The actual intent was to alert others in the game that may have similar delusions. Thoughts of that nature puts anyone thinking that at great risk. Including the author.
Once we think we have found our comfort zone in the game we in reality are out of the zone. We always need to be wondering what' s the worst thing that can go wrong with any meeting.
To think simply we are safe in the lions cage because we gave them a steak is delusional. No matter how many steaks or how much respect we give it we remain the prey. That lion has us where they want us. They instantly begin planning an attack. Quite possibly the decisive attack. Maybe not right away, but it's coming. They wait for the one slip up from us.
The Rip Off section of the forum is an excellent source of information. Almost every post has one thing in common. That being they trusted someone they should have known better than to trust.
Nobody in the game is our friend, lover, caretaker. We are not special to anybody no matter how pretty we believe ourselves to be. A provider will tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our trust.
Patrons of the trade have always been considered an easy mark. The common thought is they will not make police contact. Making every encounter the perfect crime.
None of the providers I know are in the game because they want to be. They all have a need to fulfil. Drugs, rent, food, clothes, whatever. If they will hop in the sheets with a perfect stranger for a few dollars it stands to reason they will do or say most anything to gain what they want. Including but not limited to making us think we are special and cute.
Safety is the best tool we have at our disposal. It is not normal in any circle to place trust in someone doing something illegal. Everyone has an agenda. Providers and patrons alike. A splendid time should be had by all. That is with caution.
So this is the point I was driving and not by any stretch trying to tear anyone apart. Even so for his own safety the author should know better. It is through his and other experiences here that the rest of us learn the ins and outs of the game. No pun intended. Without our mistakes being on the forum then we have no comparison to success and failure. No matter, my position here will always be safety first and trust nobody. Stay focused on the reality of any situation. Me I'm just an 'OL Gator.
[QUOTE=Lance547;3981832] you're good looking [/QUOTE]I agree with all but for better or worse, think these girls aren't interested in the slightest in one's looks. Polite, safe, clean, not grossly overweight, money, quickness to finish, perhaps an ideal age range, fetish, etc. But not "looks. " They don't care. It's just projecting our thoughts - or interests, into theirs.
[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;3982330]I agree with all but for better or worse, think these girls aren't interested in the slightest in one's looks. Polite, safe, clean, not grossly overweight, money, quickness to finish, perhaps an ideal age range, fetish, etc. But not "looks. " They don't care. It's just projecting our thoughts - or interests, into theirs.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. Sure, the hard core hookers, the drug addicts, and veterans no longer care about looks but the younger providers and simi pros are more selective and actually do find certain men attractive if you happen to be their type.
I get what you're saying, prostitutes don't care about looks but if you do happen to fit the type of man the prostitute would date outside her job absolutely you can get preferred treatment and she might even get excited to see you.
[QUOTE=Gator145;3982181]The Rip Off section of the forum is an excellent source of information. Almost every post has one thing in common. That being they trusted someone they should have known better than to trust.
Nobody in the game is our friend, lover, caretaker. We are not special to anybody no matter how pretty we believe ourselves to be. A provider will tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our trust.
Patrons of the trade have always been considered an easy mark. The common thought is they will not make police contact. Making every encounter the perfect crime.
None of the providers I know are in the game because they want to be. They all have a need to fulfil. Drugs, rent, food, clothes, whatever. If they will hop in the sheets with a perfect stranger for a few dollars it stands to reason they will do or say most anything to gain what they want. Including but not limited to making us think we are special and cute..[/QUOTE]Funny. I got close to this young woman who when I first met her she was a highly desired escort but over time she told me she doesn't do it anymore. We also got a little bit more involved and she made it seem like she didn't see anyone else but me sexually and that we could possibly have a relationship in the future.
Anyway, one night she was high as a kite and I decided to look through her phone and boy what an interesting and eye opening surprise even though I already knew she wasn't being truthful with me.
Firstly even though she doesn't advertise anymore she still does escort. Her text to potential clients were all business such as price, location, and what she doesn't do. It was really baffling to me how she would tell me that she doesn't sell her body anymore because she "values her body and mind" and that "she doesn't want to just share her body with everyone anymore" then turn around and sell it anyway even when that's how I met her. It's like she moved me from one category / lane to another.
Secondly, she has numerous other males who I would refer to as friends with benefits. She basically talks to everyone the same such as, "hay baby", or "hay boo" or "you're the true love of my life" all while asking for money or a place to stay.
She's got all of us guys thinking we are individually special to her, when actually none of us are. How can we be when she basically has like 200 some numbers and 15 core guys she mines for food, money, cigs, a ride, a place to stay, etc.
Basically this woman hops from one man to the next selling s#x outright to some, others get it packaged up as a fwb / lover, and other men get none at all. Regardless, everyday or every few days she's with a different man for the same reasons (drugs, food, shelter) all while lining up the next guy right when she's sitting right next to you. Every day 5 or 6 men constantly texting her wanting to meet up and see her but none of the men know about each other and wonder why she doesn't reply for hours.
Am I upset? A little. But at the same time I realized that this is all that this woman is capable of doing in life at this point. This is how she survives, letting men pass her around like a blunt so as long as she can get her needs met out of it. This is her job / hustle, brokering little deals with multiple men to keep her afloat and the drugs flowing without having to work and get a real job.