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Saw Shelia, pretty lady, great ride. recommend highly.
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For the first time in a while I hit up an escort last night. Vanilla.
She's part of the "passing through" crowd that posts on CL because we in Tucson, like dumbasses, pay far too much. Just like with what happened to the housing market, I am waiting for the market to smarten up and waiting for this over-inflated bubble to pop before I started doing this again. But, she stated in her ad that she's 6'4". I am 6'4" myself. I've never been with any women, pro or otherwise, who was taller than 5'9". It was an opportunity I just couldn't pass up. So, I apologize for doing damage to the market. I paid two hundred dollars. Sorry about that.
So, anyway, I call her. She says two hundred fifty for the hour. She can prolly hear that she was losing me, so she said that a special, two hundred dollars for an hour. I headed that way, the La Quinta Inn over at 22 and I-10.
I get there, and she's wearing 3 inch heels, so she's actually taller than me. It is so rare I ever see anyone taller than me, let alone a woman. I liked it. She had a small waist flaring into a sexy set of hips. I liked that, too. She then asks me to life up my shirt and she pats me down. Weird, never had that before, but whatever. So, she asks me for the money, and in quite angering all-too-common fashion, its only then that she says the stuff that she should have said before taking my money. She says she doesn't do greek (ok, I'm fine with that), she always uses condoms (OK, I'm fine with that, too), and she doesn't get on top. Huh? Doesn't get on top? Even with her height, if she told me that initially it would have been a deal-breaker. What's the point of having sex with a girl of my same height if I can't experience that? So, whatever. She puts the condom on me right away, doing a half-assed job getting me hard. Right away she leans back, but I ask for oral, she obliges, but only for a few seconds and not that good. I asked her if I could do oral on her, but she said that's extra. Huh? Yeah, I like going down, but they get much more out of that than I do, so I refuse to pay for that. So, we did missionary. She told me that I can only have one pop. Huh? I thought I paid for an hour. So, I held back a while. I popped eventually. She let me recover for a couple of minutes, then she kind of rushed me out of there. It was a polite rushing, but a rushing none the less. Despite the fact that I understood I was getting an hour, I don't think I was there more than 20 minutes.
So, I was horribly disappointed. I really miss that two hundred dollars. I never miss money unless I feel like I didn't get my money's worth for what I spent it on, and that's definitely the case here.
Irrelevant side tirade: Vanilla reminded me of why I haven't done this for so long. Obviously I have no problems, moral or otherwise, with trading money for sex. That said, I am so sick of this business. Our street scene has all but been eliminated the last ten years. Prices have gone off the scale. The appearances (speaking in a general sense) have become much less attractive. The service has become worse and worse. Honesty from providers to hobbyists isn't valued by either side anymore. We have so much "screening" going on.
I remember a time, not all that long ago, where we could cruise Oracle or MM or 6th and fine a fair quality girl who would show us an astronomical time for forty dollars. I remember when I could find an ad on CL that was more than a few minutes old because people weren't so flag happy. I remember when I answered one of those ads I could spend an hour with a beautiful woman who respected my privacy who made me feel attractive and let me pop as many times as I could in an hour. I remember when that wonderful experience could be had for one hundred fifty dollars or less.
What the fuck happened here?!?!?
[QUOTE=Pugilist]I remember a time, not all that long ago, where we could cruise Oracle or MM or 6th and fine a fair quality girl who would show us an astronomical time for forty dollars. I remember when I could find an ad on CL that was more than a few minutes old because people weren't so flag happy. I remember when I answered one of those ads I could spend an hour with a beautiful woman who respected my privacy who made me feel attractive and let me pop as many times as I could in an hour. I remember when that wonderful experience could be had for one hundred fifty dollars or less.
What the fuck happened here?!?!?[/QUOTE]Have been paying attention as I drive around the last month just trying to find someone who offers some fun for a reasonable amount of appreciation and who doesn't look like someone off the "Faces of Meth" poster.
It's slim pickens to the point where I was approached by a good looking (SW Standards) woman on Drachman and decided she must be LE. As it was, I drove around and saw her picked up by someone else who drove off up Oracle and away.
There were a few honeys I patronized on CL, only one is left and she's massage only. A happy, happy massage but that's it. The best looking woman on there now is a TS! I just can't make the leap.
Pug-
I'm from Vegas but visit Phoenix about 2 or 3 times a month over the weekends. I do the street scene stuff mostly but have tried CL both here and Vegas for the last 6 months. Your right, most of the time I get pissed off with the quality, or lack thereof, with most of the providers. They are in a rush, quality is non-existent for the most part, and one pop, not one hour is the norm. For the SW, the most you will get is normally a half hour for your money, but CL gals advertise one hour. I try to make sure they understand that one hour is just that, one hour and not just one pop, but to no avail with the exception of two over the last 6 months. As you state in your tirade, I too am so sick of the cash and dash and general lack of quality. Unfortunately, it is so typical of our society today to try and make the most money with the least amount of service. These gals don't seem to understand that repeat customers give them the most money and best overall safety, or more likely, they just don't care. To say the least its frustrating, but all of them have a sad tale of the times they have been ripped off by some clod who stole back their money or who promised to pay them afterward and didn't. You would think that they would appreciate being treated decently and would appreciate a returning customer. But au contrere. I have only one after all these years who lets me pay afterwards. It is indeed a sad state of affairs. Here in Vegas the Asian ads are rampant and the flagging is off the charts. If they only realize that there is enough for all to go around. So I don't partake of Asians here because they rip everyone else off by flagging. Unfortunately, it is typical of our society nowadays, ask the most and give the least.
10safe
[QUOTE=Pugilist]For the first time in a while I hit up an escort last night. Vanilla.
She's part of the "passing through" crowd that posts on CL because we in Tucson, like dumbasses, pay far too much. Just like with what happened to the housing market, I am waiting for the market to smarten up and waiting for this over-inflated bubble to pop before I started doing this again. But, she stated in her ad that she's 6'4". I am 6'4" myself. I've never been with any women, pro or otherwise, who was taller than 5'9". It was an opportunity I just couldn't pass up. So, I apologize for doing damage to the market. I paid two hundred dollars. Sorry about that.
So, anyway, I call her. She says two hundred fifty for the hour. She can prolly hear that she was losing me, so she said that a special, two hundred dollars for an hour. I headed that way, the La Quinta Inn over at 22 and I-10.
I get there, and she's wearing 3 inch heels, so she's actually taller than me. It is so rare I ever see anyone taller than me, let alone a woman. I liked it. She had a small waist flaring into a sexy set of hips. I liked that, too. She then asks me to life up my shirt and she pats me down. Weird, never had that before, but whatever. So, she asks me for the money, and in quite angering all-too-common fashion, its only then that she says the stuff that she should have said before taking my money. She says she doesn't do greek (ok, I'm fine with that), she always uses condoms (OK, I'm fine with that, too), and she doesn't get on top. Huh? Doesn't get on top? Even with her height, if she told me that initially it would have been a deal-breaker. What's the point of having sex with a girl of my same height if I can't experience that? So, whatever. She puts the condom on me right away, doing a half-assed job getting me hard. Right away she leans back, but I ask for oral, she obliges, but only for a few seconds and not that good. I asked her if I could do oral on her, but she said that's extra. Huh? Yeah, I like going down, but they get much more out of that than I do, so I refuse to pay for that. So, we did missionary. She told me that I can only have one pop. Huh? I thought I paid for an hour. So, I held back a while. I popped eventually. She let me recover for a couple of minutes, then she kind of rushed me out of there. It was a polite rushing, but a rushing none the less. Despite the fact that I understood I was getting an hour, I don't think I was there more than 20 minutes.
So, I was horribly disappointed. I really miss that two hundred dollars. I never miss money unless I feel like I didn't get my money's worth for what I spent it on, and that's definitely the case here.
Irrelevant side tirade: Vanilla reminded me of why I haven't done this for so long. Obviously I have no problems, moral or otherwise, with trading money for sex. That said, I am so sick of this business. Our street scene has all but been eliminated the last ten years. Prices have gone off the scale. The appearances (speaking in a general sense) have become much less attractive. The service has become worse and worse. Honesty from providers to hobbyists isn't valued by either side anymore. We have so much "screening" going on.
I remember a time, not all that long ago, where we could cruise Oracle or MM or 6th and fine a fair quality girl who would show us an astronomical time for forty dollars. I remember when I could find an ad on CL that was more than a few minutes old because people weren't so flag happy. I remember when I answered one of those ads I could spend an hour with a beautiful woman who respected my privacy who made me feel attractive and let me pop as many times as I could in an hour. I remember when that wonderful experience could be had for one hundred fifty dollars or less.
What the fuck happened here?!?!?[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more, I just had an avreage provider stop by the house. The deal was for 2 bills. After she left the phone rang and her "Boss", another provider wanted 200 more because she stayed over time by half an hour.
Mongering in Tucson is "Bull Shit", expensive, no service, no selection, and ugly providers.
Exon
There are several good female tantric massage providers in Tucson. The ones I've seen have real massage training in addition to their excellent tantric skills.
A typical session starts out face down on the table. Then oil is used, along with firm, long strikes, on your back, buttocks, and legs (and sometimes your feet).
After the flip, the massage concentrates on your cock, balls, and perineum, with a number of specialised strokes. During this time, you can get hard, go soft, get hard again, etc. a number of times. This is much more than your sweetest, long, slow HJ.
Then, as you lie there in bliss, thinking it could get no better, your masseuse dons a latex or vinyl glove, applies a water-based lube, climbs up on the table between your legs, and inserts a finger in your ass, putting gentle pressure on your prostate. At the same time, she continues to massage your genitals with her other hand. An occasional wiggle of her finger will enhance the ecstasy for the experienced connoisseur.
If you practice calm, deep breathing, you can take a lot of pleasure before you pop. Tantric ladies will back off if you're about to cum too soon, and even offer sessions specifically to correct premature ejaculation.
Warning: Do not operate heavy equipment after this session!
A typical 60-minute session will run you $$, but you might want to consider a 90-minute session. Usually not FS. Verification may be required.
Note: Lots of escorts offer "prostate massage," which is one of men's most-asked-for items, but once you've had a FBSM from a tantric practitioner, I'll bet you won't look back.
[QUOTE=Daka1]There are several good female tantric massage providers in Tucson. The ones I've seen have real massage training in addition to their excellent tantric skills.
A typical session starts out face down on the table. Then oil is used, along with firm, long strikes, on your back, buttocks, and legs (and sometimes your feet).
After the flip, the massage concentrates on your cock, balls, and perineum, with a number of specialised strokes. During this time, you can get hard, go soft, get hard again, etc. a number of times. This is much more than your sweetest, long, slow HJ.
Then, as you lie there in bliss, thinking it could get no better, your masseuse dons a latex or vinyl glove, applies a water-based lube, climbs up on the table between your legs, and inserts a finger in your ass, putting gentle pressure on your prostate. At the same time, she continues to massage your genitals with her other hand. An occasional wiggle of her finger will enhance the ecstasy for the experienced connoisseur.
If you practice calm, deep breathing, you can take a lot of pleasure before you pop. Tantric ladies will back off if you're about to cum too soon, and even offer sessions specifically to correct premature ejaculation.
Warning: Do not operate heavy equipment after this session!
A typical 60-minute session will run you $$, but you might want to consider a 90-minute session. Usually not FS. Verification may be required.
Note: Lots of escorts offer "prostate massage," which is one of men's most-asked-for items, but once you've had a FBSM from a tantric practitioner, I'll bet you won't look back.[/QUOTE]
That sounds too fantastic. Could anyone who knows a provider doing this please PM me with details. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=jwny72]That sounds too fantastic. Could anyone who knows a provider doing this please PM me with details. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I would love to have the contact info as well. please pm meif you have a girl or place in mind. I am also interested in petite latinas and asians. if anyone has experiences with those ladies near Tucson, please let me know.
Thanks guys.
Mazzy, She is on Tucsons backpage, Massage, two pops, all coverd, No: DFK, DATY, barely let me tuch her.
But besides all that a good time and a nice lady, 7 her pics were of a fue years ago. I realy injoyed her after the new be jitters went away, She is south of the University near 6th.
[QUOTE=jwny72]That sounds too fantastic. Could anyone who knows a provider doing this please PM me with details. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hello all,
First time poster, long time hobbyist. Recently stumbled on the forums and thrilled to find such valuable insights. I've been figuring this stuff out on my own forever now.
Looks to me like CL is and will remain dead until the mad-flagger dies. BP & EG are still useful tho.
NE is a phenomenal provider and terrific at tantra, plus the added benefit of the beautiful tats she wears.
Looking forward to establishing some cred and learning more! Thanks! TT
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I'm glad this issue was brought up. It demonstrates that what I've been saying for years in these circles is absolutely correct. The gov participated in "screening", and look where he ended up.
NEVER submit to an idiotic screening practice.
ALWAYS pay cash (or trade something that can't be easily traced back to you)
NEVER show your ID or tell her where you work!!!
I cant emphasize these things enough people!!! Never, ever, ever share with her any info she wouldn't be willing to share with you. It's just not worth it!!!
Apparently there are folks who haven't understood my message. I urge you all...PLEASE stop with the screening processes. Is the escort so hot you're willing to risk your job, marriage, whatever? I think not. I know the providers who promote this idiocy say they're upscale. Well...so too was that chick the gov hired. Food for thought.
So, everyone reading this...PLEASE stop being "screened"!!! If none of us were doing it, then these providers would do one of two things...
-they would get out of the business, to which I say good riddance
-they would realize that if they want to stay in business and keep making money then they would have to start respecting our privacy
[QUOTE=Pugilist]The gov participated in "screening", and look where he ended up. NEVER submit to an idiotic screening practice. ALWAYS pay cash. NEVER show your ID or tell her where you work!!![/QUOTE]Look, if you're the governor of New York State, or a similar high-profile individual, all bets are off, but there's a difference between being cautious and being paranoid.
Granted, cash only is a good rule.
I am a fairly private person who values discretion, but I believe most men are not at great risk sharing a bit of personal information with an [b]established, reputable[/b] provider. Not some advertiser you've never heard of before who shows up on CL a couple of times -- I'd be loathe to even meet with some unknown, regardless of screening.
If you decline to engage in screening, you can see a provider who doesn't require it. Then you can use her as a reference for another provider. I think most providers who screen prefer this form of screening, anyway.
BTW, if truth be told, talking to a provider on the phone is itself a form of screening. How you present yourself will either put her at ease or raise red flags. That will make the rest of the process of getting an appointment easier or harder, respectively.
Anyone have any reports on all the new talent on cl & bp? Sure seems like a lot of newbies suddenly "found" Tucson or LE is on a massive campaign.
I'll stick to the SC's and keep learning from the SM's on here hoping some day I'm able to report such amazing fantasies.
I have a favorite, regular provider who I also see off-the-clock for sex and regular dates. Apparently, a number of ladies have these "hybrid" relationships, where the guy is half-BF and half-client. My friend has two very close girl friends who are similarly situated. These relationships are fairly long-term and stable. We are all discreet and use protection. The guys are single, educated gentlemen. The three ladies have worked and partied together for many years. They are all more-than-a-little good-looking, well-established, reputable providers. I've lusted after the other two for some time, but don't "know" them.
I had a perverted little idea a while back that seemed to resonate, concerning a six-way party. This could be lots of fun, but had the potential to gum up the works, so it was not without risk. The idea was tossed around and people were willing to try it out, with certain limits. We started out with a backyard barbecue so the guys could meet and get acquainted. It was just a social affair like you might have with neighbors or colleagues from work.
Another social event followed and we decided we were comfortable with having a cozy little orgy of sorts -- nothing too extreme. The idea was for each couple to have a private date the night before our party to make sure that everyone was very relaxed for the next day. Then we got together for what could be called an intense kissing party. We each got settled with our "SO" and commenced osculating activity to some quiet music that had been programmed for the occasion. Each time the music changed, the ladies rotated. I thought it was pretty awesome -- a whole afternoon with three hot women, kissing and groping and breathing hard. Nothing more. Well, maybe a little sweating. Then each couple went their separate way.
If you're up for it (so to speak), a long kissing session with whispered sexy comments, groping, and intense eye-gazing is not to be under-rated. You could consider it a religious experience.
We've since had more make-out sessions, so that now we have our own [i]de facto[/i] little club. It's incredibly hot, but it has its limits. We think we'll continue. With the approval of the others, you may hear further reports in the future.
[Note: As should be fairly obvious, no further information is available. No PM's will be answered.]
If you're not one kinky SOB you can stop reading now. If you have a jealous SO at home there's probably nothing here for you. You've been warned.
Suppose you could meet a beautiful, sexy, hot woman, a cute little spinner, who would do virtually anything you wanted for a reasonable rate, with no concern over watching the clock? Impossible? Well, improbable, but she definitely exists, right here in Tucson. Of course, there's a catch. A rather big catch. So, what would you be willing to do [b]for her[/b] in order to be the recipient of her not-inconsiderable charms and sexual favors?
The sweet [insert daemonic laugh here] lady in question has issues. Serious issues. She finds it almost impossible to cum in the usual ways. But she can get off quite easily by beating up naked men. Mind you, she won't actually [b]harm[/b] you, but she loves to hurt men, to deliver intense pain, to spank their asses with a wooden paddle, to make them cry. It gives her a big rush, and the Big O follows. Afterwards, she is the most sweet, lovable creature you could ever imagine, and ever so grateful.
You are much more likely to see this escort on "vanilla" terms, for a high fee, and with certain "rules". The rather remote possibility of perverted behavior will have to be teased out carefully. She realizes that most clients will be, shall we say, less than pleased to know the dark truth.
At this point, in the unlikely event that you're interested, you are definitely on your own. I don't feel comfortable providing more information, except to say that about a quarter of Tucson escorts advertise BDSM services (and more offer it if asked). The nature of this topic is intensely distasteful to some people, and utmost discretion is required.
Warning: Should you take the bait, you will be marked. Probably not something you'd want your SO to see.
She may be f***ed up in her mind, but her body is a wonder to behold, to hold, and to play with.
D
I use to have a regular girl of sorts she took care of me at first thenhad some girls work for her. She has since retired it all and now I have no regular hook up. i really need some help in finding a reputable provider. Any suggestions I am not to hip on cl though I have had some luck with casual encounters in the past I am just looking for a regular thing with an attractive lady.
God I wish I only had someone that was willing to do this!
Well I am not too keen on pain but some play could be interesting.
It was a waste of time she has a room at a nice hotel on the menu, she has a great rack did the LE check asked for the donation gat naked an gave a half ass attempt at a massage and playing with me. The CBJ, toy on her clit play and doggie I did get to pound that big ass till I came. She shares the room with another provided that stays in the bathroom while your doing your thing. Not my thing. Pictures in not her also not even the old one she uses to have.
Has anyone been with Mya?
She advertised on BP and apparently comes from Phoenix (602) area
I got to see her yesterday and she give and excellent CBJ and one tight little pussy I got to fuck.
I have found a newbie in Tucson that I'm test driving tomorrow. No details yet but she is looking for a few select clients.
Sr's PM for details after Sat.
She can out herself here publicly if she wants to. I'm actually pretty excited about this one!
Has anyone test driven the new Asian that has been posting locally, Meko?
D DOg
And was rates below average CBJ
[url]http://beta.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=150044[/url]
[QUOTE=Chica Chaser]I have found a newbie in Tucson that I'm test driving tomorrow. No details yet but she is looking for a few select clients.
Sr's PM for details after Sat.
She can out herself here publicly if she wants to. I'm actually pretty excited about this one![/QUOTE]
To follow-up:
5'0" 114lbs spinner, 40yo (but I would swear 30 looking) Nice body, flat belly, nice ass. Bubbly personality. Full on GFE DFK BBBY, DATY. No CIM or Greek, but everything else is OK. Outcall only for now. Shes looking for some extra cash, very discreet for homelife. Available Wed-Sat. Shes trying stay way UTR and not advertise and only looking for a few select regulars. Definetly not in it for the money only. Used to be a dancer in the local clubs a few years ago.
Sr's PM me for more info; those of you that already have, info have been sent.
Date: 8/1/10
Provider: Amy411
Phone: After initial contact
Email Address: [email]amy155555@yahoo.com[/email]
URL / Website: [url]http://eccie.net/member.php?u=30357[/url]
City: Tucson
State: Arizona
Address: Mostly outcall, limited incall, E Tucson
Appointment Type: Incall
Did the Appointment take place at the agreed-upon time?: Yes
Activities: GFE, DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CG, RCG, K9, Mish, MSOG, MPCFS, Skinny Dipping!
Session Length: 1 hr +
Fee: 200
Hair Length and Color: Brunette, long hair to mid back
Age: 40
Smoking Status: I Couldn't Tell
Ethnic Background: White/Caucasian
Physical Description: Amy is a very petite MILF. 5' 114lbs, nice ass, very flat belly, 34B/24/34
This little lady is a total newbie in the business, totally UTR and wants to stay that way with advertising limited to just a few of the boards and using referrals.
Amy actually contacted me looking for advice to break into the business. We agreed to meet for lunch and spent the next several hours chatting about protocol, various boards, advertising, all facets of the business. I was impressed with her maturity, personality and, of course...looks!
We agreed to meet a week or so later for a session. The setup, directions, timing were flawless, and I ended up overstaying by a considerable amount. She has a great sense of humor, bubbly personality and is a joy just to be around. Definitely not a clock watcher or rusher, she really likes to play and get something out of it too. Again, UTR as she has an SO and kids and can only play at certain times, generally Wed-Sat. So absolute discretion is a must. Email contact for now.
She is outcall only right now, but is willing to get a room for incalls. She doesn't want to advertise if she doesn't have to and is really looking for a few trusted regulars...I am one for sure! She used to be a stripper at several clubs around town so she has some knowledge of the biz.
The actual session went off perfectly with lots of GFE activities as listed. I won't go into the gory details here publicly but will be happy to answer PM's.
Recommendation: Yes
P.S. This is NOT "JuicyAmie" that some you might know from the local strip club scene and from this board.
I have visited a number of escorts in Tucson over the last few years but never felt the need to post about any until now. Amy411 was just so special in so many ways. At first sight in a very long black dress that fit her excellent petite body coupled with a beautiful face that even though she says she is 40, did not look 30. She was so eager and expressive during our time making me feel that she really cared about me as a person and was truly enjoying herself as much as I was enjoying her. This beautiful woman should be on everyone's list to visit, you will not regret it. Not only that the physical experience was the best I have experienced in a long time but conversation with her being an intelligent individual was refreshing. A real 10++. I plan to see her as often as she will allow me, clearly my favorite in Tucson.
I note that Chica Chaser has indicated contact info for Amy411 so will not do so here. I also will not go into the extraordinary details in this public forum. Just suffice, Amy411 is special
[QUOTE=BM1942; 1134067]I have visited a number of escorts in Tucson over the last few years but never felt the need to post about any until now. Amy411 was just so special in so many ways. At first sight in a very long black dress that fit her excellent petite body coupled with a beautiful face that even though she says she is 40, did not look 30. She was so eager and expressive during our time making me feel that she really cared about me as a person and was truly enjoying herself as much as I was enjoying her. This beautiful woman should be on everyone's list to visit, you will not regret it. Not only that the physical experience was the best I have experienced in a long time but conversation with her being an intelligent individual was refreshing. A real 10++. I plan to see her as often as she will allow me, clearly my favorite in Tucson.
I note that Chica Chaser has indicated contact info for Amy411 so will not do so here. I also will not go into the extraordinary details in this public forum. Just suffice, Amy411 is special[/QUOTE]Well said and I have to completely agree.
I have just found out Amy has a website too.
[url]http://amy411.escort-site.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Chica Chaser; 1134957]I have just found out Amy has a website too.
[url]http://amy411.escort-site.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Too bad that Amy411 requires screening.
[QUOTE=USmale;1134986]Too bad that Amy411 requires screening.[/QUOTE]For safety reasons, I'm glad if some sort of screening is required.
[QUOTE=USmale;1134986]Too bad that Amy411 requires screening.[/QUOTE]No way I would see anyone that didn't require some screening. Not only are they screening you, but you are screening them as well. I don't want to see anyone that just takes anyone that calls.
[QUOTE=Chica Chaser;1137387]No way I would see anyone that didn't require some screening. Not only are they screening you, but you are screening them as well. I don't want to see anyone that just takes anyone that calls.[/QUOTE]I don't quite understand this. I've seen posts on here ranting about providers who screen but I can understand why a provider would screen for her own safety and so it is not a problem for me. I just don't see how it could protect me at all.
[QUOTE=Da_Hunter;1137495]I don't quite understand this. I've seen posts on here ranting about providers who screen but I can understand why a provider would screen for her own safety and so it is not a problem for me. I just don't see how it could protect me at all.[/QUOTE]I feel safer if I know that a provider is cautious about whom she sees and isn't just seeing anyone that calls.
Hunter, we have both been around here a long time!
Well its just me and my preferences, of course, but I want to see the more professional ladies. The ones that take just any guy that calls worry me for several reasons. Typically they are young and newer to the business, typically they don't offer all the services I am looking for and are notoriously YMMV. Most importantly, many times they are managed and / or have substance issues and I prefer to avoid any possible situations on-site. (Been there, done that!)
In most cases, the ladies that do at least a minimum of screening are typically more mature and have multiple reviews on various sites. They typically have some experience and knowledge about the business and what I am looking for. With that being said, I'm very limited to what info I am willing to give up to a lady. 99% of the time a couple names and websites of reputable ladies I have seen, will get you cleared pretty quick, anything else I move on. That's what I mean by "you are also screening them".
From a verification standpoint, P411 is the greatest tool ever for us hobbyists. The ladies have to be screened by them before they ever get on there. Same for the guys. They then give you an OK and that just multiplies over time and the screening process is a matter of minutes. With one notable Tucson exception when she first started, I don't ever look outside P411 anymore. No P411+No reviews=No Date is my personal policy, yours may be different!
Again, its just MY opinion on all this but my goal is to have a really good idea how my session is going to go, long before I have picked up the phone to make that first call. Most times it works great, sometimes it doesn't. Thems the breaks! I'm just at a stage where I'm just not willing to take a chance on a shitty session, dealing with a ROB, a pimp, serious addicts or LE. Didn't used to be that way, you can go back through a lot of my old posts from years ago, but now I'm not quite as reckless. The ladies who screen just don't seem to have these issues. There are exceptions to the above, of course, thats why all the "most cases"/"typically". But I'm quite content to wait for you guys to see and review the new ladies now, let you blaze that trail first. I have paid my dues with the younger / unreviewed ladies.
[QUOTE=Da_Hunter;1137495]I don't quite understand this. I've seen posts on here ranting about providers who screen but I can understand why a provider would screen for her own safety and so it is not a problem for me. I just don't see how it could protect me at all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chica Chaser; 1137962]Hunter, we have both been around here a long time!
Well its just me and my preferences, of course, but I want to see the more professional ladies. The ones that take just any guy that calls worry me for several reasons. Typically they are young and newer to the business, typically they don't offer all the services I am looking for and are notoriously YMMV. Most importantly, many times they are managed and / or have substance issues and I prefer to avoid any possible situations on-site. (Been there, done that!)
In most cases, the ladies that do at least a minimum of screening are typically more mature and have multiple reviews on various sites. They typically have some experience and knowledge about the business and what I am looking for. With that being said, I'm very limited to what info I am willing to give up to a lady. 99% of the time a couple names and websites of reputable ladies I have seen, will get you cleared pretty quick, anything else I move on. That's what I mean by "you are also screening them".
From a verification standpoint, P411 is the greatest tool ever for us hobbyists. The ladies have to be screened by them before they ever get on there. Same for the guys. They then give you an OK and that just multiplies over time and the screening process is a matter of minutes. With one notable Tucson exception when she first started, I don't ever look outside P411 anymore. No P411+No reviews=No Date is my personal policy, yours may be different!
Again, its just MY opinion on all this but my goal is to have a really good idea how my session is going to go, long before I have picked up the phone to make that first call. Most times it works great, sometimes it doesn't. Thems the breaks! I'm just at a stage where I'm just not willing to take a chance on a shitty session, dealing with a ROB, a pimp, serious addicts or LE. Didn't used to be that way, you can go back through a lot of my old posts from years ago, but now I'm not quite as reckless. The ladies who screen just don't seem to have these issues. There are exceptions to the above, of course, thats why all the "most cases"/"typically". But I'm quite content to wait for you guys to see and review the new ladies now, let you blaze that trail first. I have paid my dues with the younger / unreviewed ladies.[/QUOTE]Well said CC, I concur with those ideals. Too many reputalbel fish in the ocean to take a chance on a unknown.
Shop local is my saying or well reviewed visitors.
Fishon
[QUOTE=Chica Chaser; 1137962]Hunter, we have both been around here a long time!
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification.
Has anyone seen Jess lately? I've been thinking about giving her a buzz.