Lets Date in Philadelphia

I was on the K yesterday and seen an 8 BSW waving at selected cars. She was standing at the old hot spot, the four corners of Adams Ave. and the K. I have been through the Kensington/Frankford area several times during the day recently for different reasons and have noticed a good amount of action. The streets are definitely returning back from wence they came.

More and more independent escorts are popping up at fare prices. Another thing this is Philly, there's no good reason why the posting should be as dead as what it is.

I'm hearing that the hotel lobbies have alot of providers in them as well as the rooms having providers working out of them. This would be expected for visiting providers but I'm hearing that it is an entire scene. I want to get in on this scene so anyone with info PM me. You can read my prior posts to see that I am firmly entrenched in this hobby so any LE radars can be dismissed. I will trade if necessary but I have provided alot so I feel as though the Philly board is about due to give back to a brother monger.

I have a problem with SW's that have pimps. Here is my problem. Nowadays pimps train the streetwalkers that work for them to ask what the john wants, and in return give him a price, ALL before she gets into the car. If you are unwilling to tell her what you are looking for, then you are out of luck. That sounds like a sure way to get your face in the paper in another "Urban Warrior" installment. This is all done so that pimps can keep better track of the money. If she gets into the car then she is responsible for atleast a sum of money amounting to a BJ for that particular trick.

Everyone has seen COPS and know that the first thing that undercover LE posing as SW's ask is "What do you want to do?" That's the second question that the SW on the K posed last night after asking "Are you dating?" In the end I do believe that she was a SW, but a possible $60-$80 FS with her would not have been worth the risk of getting stung.

Every succesful SW mongering experience that I ever had happened after telling her to hop in then negotiating. Last night she wasn't trying to see the inside of my vehicle without closing the deal beforehand. I imagine that many mongers are turned away because of this practice. I have encountered three SW's in Philadelphia who utilize this practice. One way to defeat that practice is to ask her to show something or touch you, but that isn't 100%. After actually getting one of those types of SW's into your vehicle they always want to go to a specific location. Going to a specific spot with her is potentially more dangerous than just carelessly stating to any SW that you are looking to pay for sex.

[QUOTE=Lets Date]I have a problem with SW's that have pimps. Here is my problem. Nowadays pimps train the streetwalkers that work for them to ask what the john wants, and in return give him a price, ALL before she gets into the car. If you are unwilling to tell her what you are looking for, then you are out of luck. That sounds like a sure way to get your face in the paper in another "Urban Warrior" installment. This is all done so that pimps can keep better track of the money. If she gets into the car then she is responsible for atleast a sum of money amounting to a BJ for that particular trick.

Everyone has seen COPS and know that the first thing that undercover LE posing as SW's ask is "What do you want to do?" That's the second question that the SW on the K posed last night after asking "Are you dating?" In the end I do believe that she was a SW, but a possible $60-$80 FS with her would not have been worth the risk of getting stung.

Every succesful SW mongering experience that I ever had happened after telling her to hop in then negotiating. Last night she wasn't trying to see the inside of my vehicle without closing the deal beforehand. I imagine that many mongers are turned away because of this practice. I have encountered three SW's in Philadelphia who utilize this practice. One way to defeat that practice is to ask her to show something or touch you, but that isn't 100%. After actually getting one of those types of SW's into your vehicle they always want to go to a specific location. Going to a specific spot with her is potentially more dangerous than just carelessly stating to any SW that you are looking to pay for sex.[/QUOTE]

Since my last post I have verified that this was an actual SW by simply having her touch my unit through the window. I received a CBJ for $30 fs was on the menu for $60. Attempted to order some take-out from a SC called Bottoms Up. There were only a collection of some very nasty looking girls there. Floppy tits, hard faces, and rotten teeth. After waisting some time in that club I headed over to a SC called Set It Off. Better looking girls but take-out is not easily obtained. There is a VIP room upstairs but whether it is a VIP room or a Champagne room you never quite get exactly what you are looking to receive. So I passed. I left both clubs thoroughly pissed.

rode the k stroll today. noticed action from the frankford el terminal all the way back towards girard. all seemed to be addicts. noticed a couple of the girls from the prettyescorts site. the blond haired one who looks **** was being picked up right outside of the frankford el terminal. i noticed the russian run out of an alley or doorway with high heeled dark gogo boots into an awaiting mongers vehicle.

today i called the sw that i have spoke about in my previous posts. i was all set to get a $30 cbj, when a latino male answered the phone. so i asked for her by name and he told me that he'd call me back in 10 minutes. never received the call.

plan b. i called a stripper that i met that has given me $40 cbj's on a couple of occassions. well the $40 is the club price. she charges $75 when you schedule a date from outside of whatever club you met her. so $35 extra just to get her from out of her house/apartment. i had posted a pic of her a while ago for those that are interested in what she looks like.

the liberty hotel on germantown avenue is where the pic i posted of bait and switch had originated. she was working the corner right out in front of the roach motel. her figure would catch your eye then her face would blind you.

Cruised several of the strolls around the city and noticed very little LE activity and a subpar amount of SW's. Noticed two pretty decent WSW's walking the K tonight between Erie and M st. One of them was the blond from I believe the prettyescorts site. The site where the guy takes chicks from the K and pimps them for 6 times more than they are actually worth.
There also was a BSW or LSW. It was hard to actually tell but she was really doable.

The nicely shaped blond is Sabrina off the youngprettyescorts website. I too was out there that night. I believe that it was Sunday night. I'm about 87% sure that it was her. She looked much, much, much better in person. She looked more like she should have been hanging down in Olde City Sunday night rather than on the K.

Last night I did see a hot WSW again. This time it didn't look like a hotter version of Sabrina. This was an entirely different chick. She popped up on the K out of nowhere about a block away from Dunkin' Donuts headed in that direction. I made a slow cruise around the block and she was gone. That was the same for a hot HSW and a BSW. There were really only three SW's in the City last night (before 2am) and all three of them were in high demand. They didn't spend much time on there feet at all last night.

Mongers, In a Metro as large as Philadelphia, how is it that only 3 legitimate SW's were out before 2am? Then to top it off they are never from Philadelphia. The hot ones aren't. The drug addicted SW's weren't accounted for in my calculations.

The best cheesesteaks to the majority of Philly natives are neither Pat's nor Geno's. Those two styles of steaks are not typical of what you would find in a take-out pizza restaurant or just a take-out restaurant in general. That cheese whiz has no place anywhere near a cheesesteak similar to some of you mongers mouths who DATY these SW's. If any visitor wants to find an excellent cheesesteak just restrict your purchases to places that offer a delivery service. If you see cherry peppers and condiments out in the open for you dress your own sandwich then you are most likely purchasing one of those Pat's and Geno's styled tourist trap sandwiches. A good cheesesteak is chopped almost minced together with fried onions always on an Amoroso italian roll with slices of american cheese not a ladel full of that horrible cheese whiz.

I'm driving around in north Philadelphia this morning just east of Broad street after an unsuccessful night at a strip club and a couple hours of cruising when I spot a sexy young black woman walking. I honked my horn she turned around and smiled I greeted her then asked if she needed a ride somewhere. My P4P radar had went off when I first seen her walking, but then disappeared after a little conversation. So I began thinking that I would have to treat her like a regular woman to get a nut (which means alot of time invested). Wouldn't you know that in mid conversation she said "So what's up? what you tryna do?" I said "jackpot!" I got a CBJ with the C being my choice for $20. I tipped her $15 more. She told me beforehand that her head is "good as sh*t", and she certainly was not exaggerating. As for her looks she looks similar to Michele from Destiny's Child.

I had an early morning encounter today with a 22yr old BSW from South Carolina (five years removed). She was slim with ample rack and a shapely butt. She didn't appear to be addicted to any drugs, which is a requirement in my book of mongering. She undoubtedly offers a BBBJTCIM. I said that I wanted a BJ, which she needed $15 to perform. I turned it into a CBJ just to give myself one less thing to worry about.

Her conversation and attitude were so off putting that it was an obvious front to make her seem like the type that you wouldn't want to cross the line with. After she received what she wanted, plus an extra $5, due to the fact that paying $15 for a BJ is degrading to myself. Once things start to degrade me then change needs to be implemented. $15 is too close to that which a crackhead would charge. Then again any BJ under $50 is an outright steal.

After getting her president she asked " How do you want it, so you won't take a long time." I explained briefly and she went about my directions precisely. I asked for her, after she began the CBJ, to slide down her jeans. She exclaimed "This is the worst!" Of course while sliding those jeans down.

[QUOTE=West Philly]I just been looking at the photo gallery and notice are girls in philly might not be up to par. What do you guys think do our girls measure up or are we stuck getting some sub-par looking wsw/bsw.[/QUOTE]

I have had some on and off of the K experiences with SW's that were very attractive. For the most part Philly SW's are ugly drug addicts looking to support a habit. The fact that Philly SW's aren't as attractive as lets say Southern California SW's hasn't affected me much because our strippers are a resource.

[QUOTE=laozi]40th and Lancaster has a lot of fairly attractive SW, but it's kind of scary on foot. I'm not sure I agree with West Philly's assessment that you can't drive around and give girls the eye - the more experienced girls will know what's up. But if you'd feel comfortable walking around the K, then walking around here should be fine.

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40th and Lancaster is not the place to be without plenty of street smarts. When you do come across a SW over there, she will read you to see if she should "try" you. If you first past the "Cop" test you then have to pass a "Sucker" test. The second one is difficult to do if you aren't comfortable in an area like that. A BJ can turn into a group of guys storming your vehicle while your pants are around your ankles. Or she could just pull a "I'm not getting out until I receive a tip." The second one is more likely to happen though.

Any monger that contracts a STD from a BBBJ off a drug addict SW, obviously deserves it. Some of the pictures posted on this site (regardless this is still my favorite site on the internet) are troubling. A great deal of the SW's on this site look like there bodies are just vessels carrying every sexually transmitted disease known to man. I will opt for a BBBJ from a healthy looking SW or dancer/escort, but never a drug addict looking to support a habit.

Wow scored the best looking BSW that I have ever had. I first spotted her walking on Friday. She was walking at a steady pace uninterested in her surroundings. I thought that she might not have been working, but a little conversation wouldn't hurt. So I made a u-turn and parked on the same side that she was approaching, as soon as she walked to my window I gave her some wrap. A few lines turned into her saying " my price is $80." Talk of money so soon sent off my ULE alarm so I responded with all of the ULE don'ts like "come closer to my window","hop in so that we can talk",and the most reliable "touch me." My face will never be in an Urban Warrior story.

She wasn't having any of that for some reason. She wanted me to get out of the car so that we could talk instead of her getting in, I wouldn't comply. She decided to walk away. As soon as she took 10 paces another monger jumped out of a car and crossed the street. They chatted for a few and she left with him. Well now I am salty, but It is always better to err on the side of caution.

I later returned looking for her, and the thought of sloppy seconds was always enough to make me lose interest. But like I said she was the best looking BSW that I have ever seen. I never seen her again Friday. I returned on Saturday and she was nowhere to be found. On Sunday after seeing some dancers (I arranged a $50 BBBJTCIM with one of ladies but wasn't willing to wait till she clocked out) I went in search of the BSW a final time. I cruised around for several minutes and jackpot!

I spotted her on the same side of the street that I was driving and attempted to make eye contact. She had seen me, but was well into a cell phone conversation. I rode around the block pulled up on her and told her to "get in." She kept walking. I rode around the block again this time a few blocks further in the direction that she was approaching to head her off. She knew that I was serious and pulled herself away from what was a chirp conversation. she asked while walking "so what happened to you last time?" in a sarcastic manner intimating that I was not a serious monger.

I chatted with her (while she was freakin chirping someone) out of my drivers side window while she was walking in the same direction on the opposite side of the street. This was not a time for discretion for I had found something that I wanted. She still seemed disinterested until I initiated talk of compensation and she finally told the person on the other end of the cell phone to "wait a minute." She soon hopped in and off we went.

3 seconds after she hopped in she asked if I could make a turn down the street to where she was headed before I picked her up so that she could "drop something off. I sell too.". I said "hell no". Being arrested while mongering is one thing and you will most likely receive nothing more than an over night stay or weekend stay. What she was talking about was totally unacceptable.

So now I have this piece of ass in my vehicle that has the person that was on the other end of the cell phone conversation anxiously awaiting her arrival. That person on the other end of the phone certainly was not a person looking to indulge in what she was dropping off, but was looking to gain. That person chirped her atleast 3 different times while she was with me wondering what the hold-up was. Each time she had a different lie.

A little small talk revealed that she just stopped dancing in New Jersey (I've noticed a trend that chicks from Philly head to NJ and NYC and vice versa. The rapper/actress Eve is an example of that). As far as the service went. It was a very good rushed FS (sounds like an oxymoron). Rushing is something that destroys the experience. But atleast this time she had an excuse, which is different than wanting to move on to the next monger. An $80 rushed FS from a SW is ludicrous to most mongers, but she is worthy of being Ludacris's next video vixen.

Ran into a BSW yesturday. She was an Amazon. About 6'1" and some change, slim torso with solid C cups, long legs with crazy booty crammed into some stretch jeans. She fooled me up until she closed my vehicle door. Once the door was shut then her crackhead tendencies came to the forefront.

Just the ride alone to the place that she knew of that rented rooms was an experience. This place ended up being a row home. It didn't look bad outside, the guy that she knew who answered the door didn't look too strung out on drugs. But a further venture inside of the home reminded me of the building in New Jack City called The Carter. There were maybe five people total that I had seen in there all had seemed to already have "beamed up to Scottie". The guy who owned the home was saying that his "square" upstairs is occupied so we'd have to go in the basement. The where?! Just the look on my face alone sent him upstairs to clear out his "square". He didn't want to lose his $10.

His room contained one female crackhead that he had to virtually scrap off of the his bed. There was drug paraphernalia that he had to tose as well. Then the BSW plopped down on the bed. I stood in disgust then handed her the $20 for a CBJ. Her performance was a hustle and I will never use her again. She's interesting to look at and obviously was EXTREMELY hot when she was in her 20's (she looked to currently be in her 30's) But now she is on her way down and mongers like myself are in a position to exploit her during her fall to the bottom.

Just had an experience with a 22 yr. old Italian/Puerto Rican former stripper turned SW. Received a $30 CBJ, with an excellent technique. She displayed a great personality and was DRUG FREE. I actually was interested in getting her number which the majority of the time I couldn't care less to have. She was out with her cousin that was more atractive than her, but the cousin would have had to have shown me some ID.

[QUOTE=DukePV] there have got to be more places where, for example, hispanic and asian girls can be found for a reasonable price. [/QUOTE]

You will not find an Asian street walker in Philly but I have run across several Asian strippers who "dated" in the $100 range. These Asian strippers were usually Cambodian and Phillipino , never Chinese, Korean, and Japanese.
Hispanic street walkers are available in certain parts of the city at varying times and days. You will have to waste alot of gas driving around to catch one out.

The street scene is beginning to get REAL interesting of recently. This is due to several underground strip clubs being raided and the weather being nice. I was out last night and had spotted two known strippers walking a stroll. One had on tight jeans with a Bikini top and the other had on a two piece red spandex set with a glittery purse. They looked like the typical image of street walkers.

Just up the block from them I spotted a corner with three girls and one guy with a cell phone and two other chicks who were just walking back and forth.
The crazy part about this was that there were two patrol cars out. One was parked across the street since the first time I passed the corner and another had moved in position right on the corner when I passed it 15 minutes later.
LE is too quick to stop mongering in this town.

5 males can stand on a corner 24 hours a day selling drugs and never have two squad cars devoted to stopping there transactions but let some non drug addict SW's come out and the whole presinct is on alert. Could it be due to there own sexual interests?

[QUOTE=washaccount]Lets Date,

I just read your last 4 posts back to 5-30-05 describing your experiences with chicks. We need locations man, not just stories. How can we find pussy unless we know where to go?[/QUOTE]

This would have been more appropriate for a PM.

Wasted a third of a tank of gas last night just cruising, mostly spotted alot of various levels of drug addicts selling there wares. I did come across some actual BSW's 4 total. One was modelesque 5'10 with a six pack long slim legs and a tatoo across her stomach like Tupac (lol). She appeared to be a real looker the first time that I cruised passed her. s\She had given me the eye and I pulled closer to the curb and slowed to like 5mph then I just decided to pull off, she yelled out "get back here". I never stop on the first sighting of a SW I must survey the area for potential stings. I met her around the corner maybe 5 minutes later and we began to conversate. She said "wow you didn't think that I was desirable enough to stop the first time?" She says this at the same moment that I realize that she is Whoopi Goldberg in the body of Naomi Campbell. Her face was hideous and the whites of her eyes had a yellow color to it.

We began to talk business "she asks what I want?" I say in coded monger "The top part" She laughs and says oh you can say it. My foot reflex almost peeled out of there because that seemed to be a response to get some prosecutable info out of me but she followed up immediately with "Do you have atleast $40." I told her "not for that." She promply walked away from passenger side window and that concluded my mongering experiences for last night. Amazing how I have become picky over a $40 BJ. I guess after running into so many $10-$20 BJ's the last couple of months $40 doesn't seem like such a deal anylonger. LOL

Craigslist is not a great source to find providers in the $100 range in Philadelphia. Y@h00 groups are a good source. Here are some $100 and cheaper providers.

[quote]Originally Posted by washaccount

Lets Date,

I just read your last 4 posts back to 5-30-05 describing your experiences with chicks. We need locations man, not just stories. How can we find pussy unless we know where to go?[/quote][QUOTE=Lets Date]This would have been more appropriate for a PM.

[/QUOTE]I think Wash has a VERY valid point. This fiction is really interesting reading but without a location that's ALL it is!

I was just came accross this photo of a chick that I had a $50 full service experience with a few months ago. Like most photos she actually looks much better in person. She has a large shapely booty that is hard to the touch and the only thing that she doesn't do is bareback anything. Anal was even on the menu at that price and she had lube.

Here's a pic of a below average looking 37yr old Y@h00 chick who does full service incall's for $75 and also runs specials for $60. She had thrown one party a few weeks ago where her and two friends were going to let you have your way with them gangbang style for $75. She does BBBJ's and even rimming for the price of $40. I haven't experienced her yet due to her age. She sounds a tad bit older than 37 over the phone, more like 47. So it turned me off.

I do believe that Lets Date does have a large contact list of cheaper but good looking stripper type women. I dont think he is making it up. He is protective of giving out the info unless you give him a new contact. Thats hard for me to do especially since the only places I know he already knows about. I wish he would be a little more forthcoming with sharing specific contact info but hey his list. I guess all it takes is giving it out to the wrong person ie LE then he and his contacts are over so I sort of see it from that stand point, but I think his %100 percent legit.

PS: Overbrook cum is a service is sexadelphia website. There is a rumor about one of the girls health and thats all ill say.

You do realize [b]Let's Date[/b] is a senior member who posts regularly and has been posting for a year now.

Check out post #2 (dated June 2004)

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=239561#post239561[/url]

Some guy called him out on locations as well. Hell, I'm an outsider but nothing is more lame than a "non"-poster griping about a poster.

BTW, washaccount, your first post calls into question the very existence of Jackson's site. If us regular posters didn't write reports about action on the street and MPs and whatnot, what else would there be here? Perhaps only posts griping about something or other? The your second post is a stupid addendum to the already burgeoning list of abbreviations. The next three are gripes about [b]Let's Date.[/b] Thanks so much for your contributions to the forum. :rolleyes:

Peace

[QUOTE=washaccount]

Fortunately out there you don't have to endure the fairy tales from Lets Date on a regular basis as we do.
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The following is very telling. "Fortunately out there you don't have to endure the fairy tales." Poverty, starvation, and pain are things that you are fortunate enough to not have to endure. But I guess the drought that you are in right now is akin to "starvation" thus causing you "pain" resulting from your blue balls.

"Endure the fairy tales from Lets Date on a regular basis as WE do." Let me make this abundantly clear YOU are not a part of WE. You aren't a senior member and you haven't even reached double figures in posts yet. The humorous part about this is that you have frustration pertaining to me not being detailed in my posts. Well you haven't posted any mongering experiences to be detailed about. So everyone knows who not to PM for info.

You were just recently promoted from lurker status and it seems that it didn't take much time for you to address something that I have been doing for quite a long time. I guess that you and your fellow officers grew weary of trying to locate my hunting grounds, clubs, and websites. This is why Senior Membership exists to weed out those that are not one of US.

Listen officer close that box of Krispy Kreme, put down your mug of java, roll up your sleeves, crack your knuckles and RTFF.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=366142&postcount=377[/url]

Or the original source: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=365699&postcount=688[/url]

Let's Date,

Alrighty then. Just put times and one street. That really isn't much to ask. BTW, did you know that there are some posters here that have absolutely no intel (good, bad, fiction, or non-fiction) in their reports??? Seems one of them is your biggest fan and/or stalker.

Peace

Daddy Lows,

Do not allow the parasite that is clinching ever so tightly to my testicles, lead you into believing that I do not post locales accross the board. I have devoted entire posts to strolls.

The best time of the day to go cruising by far is from 5:00am to 8:30am. Many mongers have never ever considered mongering that early because those are normally the hours designated to resting and preparing for the workday. This is the time of day that you run into alot of the more attractive girls who feel safer walking the streets after many of the ghastly creatures of the night retire. For any of the mongers who are interested in following in some of my recent successes, namely my testicle leech, then this is the time to go cruising.

the second best time to go cruising would be from 12am to 3am. This in years past was THE best time to go mongering but in many of the cities around the country this has changed. Why? I haven't the foggiest idea but this time slot definitely comes in second in terms of quality to 5:00am. Now there usually are more street walkers who are willing to walk that come out during this time but there also are more LE out on patrol ready to suppress there movement.

Any portions of the day other than those 2 are third.

Here are the times that all of my following reports occurred.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=368967#post368967[/url] 2:30 am
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=368890#post368890[/url]
1:30 am
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=365551#post365551[/url]
6:00am
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=362250#post362250[/url]
9:00pm
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=361302#post361302[/url]
3:30am
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=357122#post357122[/url]
6:00am
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=356698#post356698[/url]
7:00am
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=350856#post350856[/url]
1:30am

Here's an entire post dedicated to one stroll in West Philadelphia.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=264035#post264035[/url]

Regular members lets not sully the board with your demands, suggestions, and comments upon other members and how they elect to post. This Philadelphia thread is losing some of the boundaries that it once possessed and is starting to become much like a chatroom. It seems like the new blood in here is less interested in mongering and more interested in having there opinions known and are using this board for there attention wh0r!ng purposes. Even though they may claim otherwise... Please stop the attention wh0r!ng. Go to a bar and buy the fellas a few rounds if you are looking for approval. Run on field naked during a Phillies game if you are looking for attention. This problem is so digusting that non Philly members are chiming in to see that it doesn't persist.

The PM feature of this board is the most desirable way to share and receive info because it serves to keep a great deal of the light off of this hobby. How irresponsible would it be of me or any member to post the address of an illegal Philadelphia brothel on this board? Now how helpful would it be for me to share that info with a fellow monger, by way of PM, who has proven that his interests lie in the enjoyment of this hobby and not the destruction of it.

The many members that I have provided exclusive contact info to of providers as well as location of establishments of debauchery, you know who you are. You know how and why you received that info and I would appreciate if things moved along that more progressive way of sharing info about illegal activities.

In closing I would like to say, "Let's not be friends, Let's not be enemies, and certainly let's not share opinions about eachother." Isn't that truly what's mongerings all about? Lets apply that motto to our posts as well.

[QUOTE=Wooly]You are absolutely correct in your assessment on this wanna-be. I have read his crap and am certain that he is the cretan who had infected the New Jersey board with his made-up stories. After several serious members complianed Jackson took corrective action.
Just because he is a Senior Member does should entitle him to special respect, the quality of his reports (there is none) would.
I urge you and other intellegent members to bring his uselessness to Jackson's attention as we had on the Jersey board.[/QUOTE]

Philly board members this here is a PRIME example of what should NEVER ever be posted. This post was attention wh0r!ng at it's finest. Was there any sexual experience begotten within that post? NO! Was there an opinion about another board member (not from a Philly monger I might add) transmitted not by way of PM, where only targeted members may read it, but posted and crystalized on the board for all to see?Yes! Thank you very much Wooly for showing the uninitiated how not to post. When Philly board members need info from whatever thread of the city that you typically post in they will already know that you only exist to "attention wh0re." Now take a bow and come back when you have a PHILADELPHIA experience for us. Thanks to the board member Layin Pipe I will begin placing the undesirables on my Ignore List. That should lesson my urge to respond to slandering messageboard attention wh0res and get back to cruising for the kind that walk the street.

2:30 PM This was my first trip of the day I hit the K stroll and seen quite a few of the same quality addict SW's. One was interesting and I spotted her walking past the KFC towards the car dealership lots. She looked to be WSW (could have been a HSW) with naturally dark hair but with a blond dye job, rail thin wearing a tight black dress.

11:00 PM I decided to hit a new strip club that I read about online. It initially started as a one day a week place but it was said to just have expanded it's business hours. So I do a quick loop around the place to see how much action was going on and judging by the parking the inside was PACKED. I have driven by this place before and have NEVER so many cars parked outside. So after I park my vehicle I approached the intrance and seen two guys and a female outside. I give them a nod, waiting to see if they collect a door fee but they just stared at me silently with a look that I couldn't quite put together just yet. So I walk past them and enter the place. I see maybe 300+ clothed women sitting around the bar, pool table area etc.. I'm thinking "well did I come on lesbian night or something?" Then I finally see some naked flesh right infront of me, it was a back with a thong pulled down and it was getting really aggressive with the ladies around the bar, smacking them on the ass. Then I looked a bit more closely and said to myself "Why doesn't that stripper have any titties?" Oh Sh!t it was a male stripper and it seems that I came on female night.

All of that took maybe 2.5 seconds. I opened the door seen that and exited with haste. I walked outside past the two guys and the female again and said "Why didn't someone warn me?" They said "you didn't ask?" The guy that runs the spot said that the male customers weren't coming out spending any money so he switched it around.

12:15 AM I hit a bar with strippers. This bar didn't charge me a door fee the first and only time that I went there before, but now they charge $5. So after paying the doorman and getting frisked I begin walking to an open area to sit. On the way to my seat I had my dick grabbed by a dancer and my butt sqeezed by another one. I sat inside this club bored for maybe a half hour. They have to have the worst selection of strippers in the city, it's just that at one point it was free to get inside and it does have a bar so it HAD its appeal. During my stay there I saw a Panamanian stripper by the name of China that I "dated" out of another club a couple of months ago. She just popped in for a few minutes fully clothed talked to some people, made eye contact with me then left. After getting some info on the club's backroom I left.

1:15 I hit the streets and ran into the Italian/Puerto Rican SW from my post on 6/17/05 [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=365551#post365551[/url] . After a couple of mongers unsucessfully tried to pick her up I told her to hop in. This was my fourth experience with her already. She asked what I wanted and I said a BJ, I get it from her for $30. She asked if I had any rubbers and I didn't, so we stopped get some. I sent her to go get them. She came back with a story of this male that was standing in line behind her. When she had requested the two condoms that I wanted. The man behind her said "hmmmmmmmmm, I know that's right, i'm tryna get something stuck in me tonight too." That made two brushes with gayness so far on the night.

On the way to the secluded spot that I was taking her that the BSW from this post [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=361302#post361302[/url] had shown me, i tell her that I was looking to bust two nuts and I was willing to pay $60. She said okay cool $60 plus the thirty is fine. I said no just $60 total. She said how about $80? I said no just $60. She responded with "How about $70?" I said $60. She was a little against it for a few seconds but since I have been seeing her regularly then she went for the $60.

We got to my secluded spot, which she admitted to me she has been using for dates ever since I had first shown it to her. We past a female crackhead on the way in just scrating like she wanted all of her skin to fall off. I pull all the way into the back and park. I give her $30 to give the CBJ and will give her the rest when I move onto the FS. She puts on the rubber and starts, maybe 30 seconds later another car pulls in and takes a look at us (remember this is a VERY secluded spot) I told her to stop. The guy loops around and asked us "Are ya'll going to be long, cause I came back here with my girl to have fun too?" The SW responds with "yeah were going to be here a little while." The guy says smiling "Damn, I thought that I was the only one that knew about this place. Ya'll enjoy yourselves okay." and he pulled off. Two minutes later a Suburban pulled in and I heard a door open so I just pulled off, like there is too much action back here. There was another place around the corner that proved to be just as good. She completed the CBJ and I decided that would be all for the night with her.

3:00am I hit a UG club. The door fee was $10 with the normal frisk, I went to go see the dancers and noticed a few familar faces that I "dated" before I grabbed a seat and began to observe all of the new faces that I had NEVER seen dance anywhere. A few ladies approached me and asked if I would like a lapdance, I declined. One approached looking to give a lapdance and I quickly told her to sit down right next to me. I told her that I was interested in going to the VIP room with her. She responded with It costs $100 for FS and $50 for a BJ plus $20 for the VIP. I attempted to negotiate and it fell through. I spent several more minutes in there and finally the Panamanian dancer by the name of China approaches me. She asked, "Why aren't you talking to me?" I asked her the same question. I said that "we haven't talked since the last time that we talked." She said "Yeah since that time that I sucked your d!ck in your car." For the record I actually got to have FS with her as well for $50 total. So I told her "well I am looking for the same thing right now." She said "Okay it'll cost you $60". I said that it only cost me $50 last time. She said "okay $50". I asked "without a rubber?" she said that she doesn't do anything without a rubber. So I said well I'll give you $60 total for FS including the $20 VIP fee, and she declined. She later came back and offered $50 FS plus $20 VIP. I wasn't willing to pay $70 being that I already blew a load a couple hours prior. I also noticed that she kept going back to some guy seemingly reporting how our negotiations were going and that was a turn-off completely. I couldn't care less about a pimp or "daddy" as they are called now, but stay directly out of my conversation.

The last note about that club was that the MC was going around collecting money from everyone trying to get $50 together so that a dancer would get onstage to give a "lucky" guy a BJ infront of everyone. Well the dancer that was giving the BJ was by far the worst looking of the bunch. Once the money was collected she went around the room asking guys if they would go up on the stage with her. I personally declined but she eventually found a willing partcipant. The MC said that this was "The best kind of welcome home present." So I figure that the guy that went up onstage must have just been realeased from encarseration.

6:00am I spotted the streetwalker equavalent to the Dodo bird, IT WAS AN ASIAN STREETWALKER! WTF. She was in an area without an Asian community I had seen her crossing the street infront of me thinking that she was just a regular Asian woman. But then she gave me the eye. I mean she REALLY gave it to me too. I looped around and noticed that she was sitting in a chair outside on a corner this time rubbing her foot like she had been walking for a long while. I looped around again and noticed a Range Rover making a Uturn, so I knew that he had the same thing on his mind. I loop around again and noticed the ASW on the opposite side of the street with the Range Rover approaching her, she was waving at the driver of the Rover and he immediately looked at me. I don't know if she was waving to get his attention, or waving to signal to him that I was potentially mongering and it all could have been a ULE sting operation. I got out of there, returned 15 minutes later and she wasn't there. I believe that she was a true ASW because she didn't look "Americanized."

6:30am hit the K and noticed 2 BSW's with a pimp near Church st. and a possible WSW with a man sitting out near the KFC.

7:00am ran across a BSW and a HSW with a group of maybe five men, some were probably pimps. I parked on the corner and the BSW approached my car window while the HSW went to the next mongers vehicle. She asked "Are you dating?" I said "for sure" she asked what I was looking for. I responded with "do we have to talk about this while your outside of the car?" she said "Okay I'll get in but we can't pull off until we make a deal." I told her to touch me, and she touched my arm, I told her to touch the unit and she grabbed it. I the told her that I was looking for a BJ. Then all of a sudden her halitosis had hit me. She responded with "It'll cost you $50 and I go no lower than $40." After having her breath foul the air in my vehicle I told her that I'll be okay, so she got out and that concluded my mongering.

[QUOTE=Username]To think I thought maybe not more people had posted on NOB because there was so much going on there, they were afraid it would get shutdown. Well, thats not the case. While its great all the hands on dances,(which are in fact $10) and even on-stage touching of the dancers, as far as I tell they do not cross the line inside the club. In my view this as good a time as you can possibe have legally in a SC and in may in fact be the best one I've been to in this regaurd. (I'd love suggestions if you know one similar or better ... and I'm talking nationally here).

It has been indicated that the girls would date outside the club .. but I assumed you would have to ask for that. 1 wanted to do it in my car (got there on subway so didn't have one, heh) a couple though said they lived like across the street or close by and we could just go to their place.

Now I'm wondering if anyone here has done this, or heard of they just taken people to get robbed. I wonder if that is the case though, simply because if they made a habit if doing this, they'd be in jail already, not working at a club, and this would also draw attention to the club itself and get it shutdown if it happened on a regular basis. Still though, I'm interested to here comments.[/QUOTE]

The NOB has undergone quite a few transformations over it's many years in operation. It's lastest reincarnation (all under the same name and at the same location) is that of an "upscale" gentlemen's club. Since it reopened several months ago it now charges a $10 fee for a membership card in addition to the $10 entrance fee. If you get a membership card and loose or forget to bring it you will have to pay the additional $10 all over again.

Up until the later part of 2000 and all years dating back to when the NOB first opened it was a GREAT place to seek action from well over 90% of the dancers. This is back before the club became a household name around the country (due to the internet). At one point in time the NOB had VIP rooms with beds. There VIP rooms (which is the dressing room now) have now been transformed to a VIP area that is nothing more than a half moon shaped boothed area seperated by a black sheet and guarded off. It doesn't provide any privacy for you are in the area with all the other patrons who were willing to pay the $20 to get the bracelet that allows them unlimited access throughout the night.

The NOB is easily considered a black strip club but it will have some Asians and the occasional PAWG. The number of dancers there is the best part on a weekend night because between 2am and 6am you can see possibly 60 dancers on a very good night come through the doors.

Most dancers at NOB will tell you that they aren't willing to date. It is frowned upon by management to have girls walking in and out of the club with customers nowadays. They even charge the dancers and customers to re-enter the club. The NOB is better suited to get numbers for future prospects but for some reason the dancers here try to charge escort rates like $150 for what's going to actually be a rushed FS.

So the basic info mongers need to know about NOB, go there if you're capable of being satisfied with $10 lapdances. That's the only type of action that is guaranteed.

Lets Date,

How bout some hints on those clubs (you can skip the first one ;) ). With the price of gas, driving to the PH is too expensive.

After writing about the current state of the NOB, I thought that it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a return visit. I arrived at the club at 2:00am knowing that the stage show doesn't start until 2:30am but I had a UG club that I had wanted to be at before 3:30am. Before 2:30am there is actually a decent amount of parking on Broad st. so that is also an incentive to arrive a half hour early.

After parking I approached the entrance, got frisked,walked down the steps, showed my membership card, payed my $10 and got frisked again. There were probably 16 dancers on the floor while I was there and the crowd began to pick up tremendously as I was leaving a half hour or so later. I didn't care to get a lapdance but I decided to tip this one dancer that offered one in order to start up a conversation where I would attempt to get some extras. She wanted $150. This just happens to be a dancer that I have been seeing around the city at different locations over the years and she MOST CERTAINLY has done things for ALOT less.

I really almost had my first mongering experience with her in the VIP room of a now closed club. Back then when I attempted to get extras she said $100. I eventually negotiated a BJ for $50, But once we entered the VIP room, and after paying her, she all of a sudden pulls a fast one where she says "where's my money?" I'm like huh? She attempts to charge me for the time that she was sitting on my lap while we were hashing out the details of the VIP room. She begins knocking on the closed VIP door screaming for help as if I was abusing her. I attempted to open the VIP room door while she was banging on it and she blocked me off with her small frame. The bouncer eventually opened the door and through negotiation I only ended-up $15 shorter (for the 3 phantom lap dances) from the entire experience. He admitted to me that she is a crazy one.

Anyway while talking to her inside of the NOB she says that she has to dance on stage first then she'll be able to leave. All experienced NOB mongers know that's just a line that the strippers tell you in order to not turn you off from potentially dancing with them. I didn't bite. BTW she even asked me if I was the police. Insulting...

I left the NOB and began comtemplating whether or not I really wanted to have another experience at a strip club, albeit one more geared towards extras. So I nixed that idea and decided to turn this into another night of cruising.

I ended up running into the same HSW BSW duo that I had seen in my last cruising report on Friday night/Saturday morning. I pulled up to them not recognizing who they were. The BSW approaches the window and says "Hey I remember you from yesturday." I respond with "Oh yeaahhhh, that's right." I certainly didn't forget about her halitosis so I asked her to send her Puerto Rican friend over. This Puerto Rican SW was a 10 on my SW scale. She came over to my window and gives me the prices $100 for FS and $50 for a BJ. I said "Ooh boy, that's too much." Would you do $40 for a BJ? She agreed and off we went to the same secluded spot that I reported on.

This secluded spot is a few minutes away from were I picked her up but she kept asking where I was taking her, and not to take her too far. I responded to her that "where I was taking her was going to end up being a place where she is going to begin taking ALL of her dates." There was minimal conversation, she would talk to someone in spanish every so often on her cell phone.

We arrived at the spot. I gave her the $40 for the CBJ, she pulled down her jeans at my request and began. After a few minutes in, I pull the trick that I have up my sleeve that has only failed once to date. I said "I'll give you $20 extra dollars for FS, I think that I could finish faster that way." She agreed and hopped on for a couple minutes then we decided to step outside of the vehicle for doggy and I was finished.

After pulling out of the place she asked me "So where is this place at again?" I already knew that she was going to begin using this spot. It seems almost as if this spot was specifically created for people looking to get lewd in public.

On the way to dropping her off we had a bit more conversation where after questioning her she revealed that she was 18 and that she had never danced before. I told her that I came from a club called NOB earlier and she said that she had never heard of it. I described what type of club it was and she said that she was interested in dancing, but not at a club like that. She said that she is considering dancing at Dangerous Curves.

10:30pm arrived at my old Sunday evening stripclub. This is the same club that I met Brickhouse in for the $50 FS,I posted a picture of her a few posts ago. Me and the owner are pretty cool, being that I've been attending his parties before he ever had a club of his own. I posted a report of one of his parties summer of '04. On the way in he greeted me and warned me that he had some new talent that was going to blow my mind. He has asked for my input before on dancer selection and he has certainly delivered.

There were around 20 dancers mixed body types only one was seriously out of shape. A few of them were actually gorgeous. Outside of a 3 girl dildo show the surprise of the night was when the Owner/MC welcomed a dancer to the stage form DC that had contacted him and just wanted to see what his place was like. She didn't have any stripper clothes but she took it all off for one song. Her name is Thunder and she had absolutely the biggest naked ass that I have seen in person. Her waste measurement was like 29 inches and her butt/hips had to be somewhere in the mid 50 inches.

After she finished her set I approached her to see about some mongering opportunities and she proved to me that she should look to get into politics. we went back and forth with her never saying no, and never giving me a price. I grew frustrated ended the conversation and left the place a few minutes later.

1:00am I cruised around the city and made a stop on the K. I noticed a few SW's out. One WSW blond hair/meaty thighs/5'2" early 20's had garnered some interest from me but I didn't feel like making the necessary loops around the area to ensure that it wasn't a sting op.

2:30am I head over to the same UG club with the $20 VIP room. This time I actually elected to receive some service. I got propositioned by the one dancer that I was atracted to the most who attempted to completely shy away from me during my last visit. She approached me and asked if I was dancing, I said "Not right now." She then asked if I was dating. I asked how much. She told me $80 for everything. I declined, even though I wanted to so badly but I didn't forget one thing that pissed me off that she did during my last visit. Even though she was shaped unbelievably and could dance I could tell that she was going to give horable rushed service intentionally.

China approached me shortly afterwards and we agreed to the $50 full service. A rubber is supplied with the $20 VIP room fee. the VIP room had a day bed a few chairs and a love seat that was flipped upside down. I took care of my business using the day bed. I ended-up talking her into starting me off with a BBBJ. She had sat on the day bed right infront of the magic stick and before she could put on the rubber I asked her to start me off without the rubber "show me some love." It disgusts me that I even used that word in that setting but it worked. My leaky faucet turned her off so she insisted that I put on the rubber. I finished doggy, and then headed back home.

Another long Tuesday night mostly devoid of any top notch talent. Ran into this BSW standing at the end of the block of a strip club while it was letting out. She was on the corner dressed in a tight pink dress with a single rollable piece of luggage, tight body 20's. I looped around her and asked if she was dating. She replied with "Head shots are $65". I told her that I was interested but I don't go that high. I said that if I had met her in the club then it would have been a possiblity but since I'm picking her up out on the street then she'd have to come down.

She said that "$40 isn't going to get her to where she needs to be." I said that I'll do $40 and will be quick about it. She said "alright, do you have a cell phone?" I had told her no, she said "well let me use this payphone to make a call real quick." That didn't sit well with me for some reason especially since I already asked her if she had a pimp and she said no. I had asked how frequently she dances at the club and she said that "she doesn't dance". So the whole rollable luggage was just a front.

This phone call of hers became a condition upon entering my vehicle. I no longer believed her to be worth it, because this could have been some elaborate scheme to obtain much more than just $40. So I pulled off.

Later on ran into a BSW by the name of Heavan 18-21yrs old. She wanted $50 for a CBJ and I was offering $30, she then wanted $40. I didn't want to do it so she walked off. But seeing her jean skirt ride up on top of her asscheeks as she walked away back to her obese co-worker I decided to call her back. She didn't immediately come back. When she did come back she said that her friend would do it. I said "What?!" I had wanted to smack that can of beer and CD player out of her hands. I said that her friend looks like NOTHING. There was a 0% chance that I'd date her. She said that her friend's head game was tight, she said that "she just got through eating my pu$$y earlier." I still was not sold so I pulled off.

Ended up getting a CBJ by a walking travesty. This BSW has the genes to be in the top 5% of beautiful people but drugs have ravaged the area of her mouth. She's mixed with Creole and Native American, and actually looks like it. She told me that she was 38 but her body was early 20ish without any fat on her torso or stretch marks on her phat ass. High cheek bones, nice perfectly round smooth phat booty in tight little shorts with the legs of an athlete (absolutely no cellulite). She even played that up by wearing some running shoes. She had a small perky chest and really has the body of a sprinter.

She told me that she was a dancer up until three years ago. Said that she use to dance at 61st and Passyunk and in a club in Delaware where they would give head not in a VIP room, but on the floor at your table. I went browsing for some info on this spot and have turned up nothing so far.

I usually am disgusted by the sight, and the thought of dating addicts but she was such that she was going to be my second exception to date (see my 6-03-05 post). She ran me through the whole LE check thing and hopped in without ever disgussing a rate with me.

I ended up giving her $20 before we started but she had already handed me the rubber before I pulled out any money (she does offer BBBJTCIM at no additional cost). I'm thinking that this could have been one of those $5 deals which is ashame considering what I know she looked like before her mouth went down hill. She also didn't have the personality of an addict with the weird gesticulations and convoluted conversation. Senior Members and authentic long time contributing mongers of 20+ posts contact me for her locale.

I heard about a legal place non/amp that quinches a mongers thirst. I made a visit and It indeed has girls that give $40 and $80 massages. There was a white woman mid 30's, Dominican woman mid 30's, and a black woman early 20's. Senior Members and authentic long time contributing mongers of 20+ posts contact me for location.

Lets Date- call me crazy, but I don't see any good information in your posts? Are you dreaming this stuff? Are there a bunch of clouds and ponies around these girls when you are "talking" to them?

Cruised the K this morning and was in shock at the amount and quality of action to be found. There were quite a few WSW's out along the Ave. from Ruan st. down to the Somerset area. For a change the majority of SW's on the K weren't wacked out addicts while I was cruising.

I spotted a HSW BSW duo walking in the K/Somerset area. I looped around the block and turned down the side street as they did. Then I made another right onto a smaller street to get out of LE's line of sight because there was one parked up the same street that I had turned onto. It looked like the officer might have been getting a hand job to me. The BSW that he was talking to was bent over with both of her entire arms going through the driver side window.

Anyway I began talking to this duo both of them looked to be about 18 which isn't necessarily a good thing considering the type of prison term involved if they weren't. I asked them if they were "out here dating." They responded with " That isn't the only thing we could be out here doing." I said "Well if the two of you aren't dating are you looking to hang out?" They had both said yeah. So I said that there is alot of LE out right now let me touch your chest to reassure myself. As I reached for her breast she backed away and said "the police are coming." I looked in my rear view mirror and a Crown Vic was fast approaching. He followed me for several blocks until I was completely out of the area. Last night/this morning was the time to be out mongering the K. The LE presence on the K remains hobby prohibitive.

Just completed another sucessful run, however it wasn't with anything as close in beauty to what I have been hooking up with at the clubs.

Ran into a WSW BSW team on a new hoe stroll that I cruised upon. To date I have seen three WSW's on that stroll along with a host of BSW's. Those chicks over there work for dirt cheap and are aggressive due to the lack of police attention to mongering. For example a few days ago I was over there behind a car at a red light and this chunky WSW just walked up to the car in front of me and eventually asked "So do you have $20?" I guess the guy said sure and they were off.

When I pulled up to the WSW BSW team tonight the WSW approached my vehicle and attempted to open my door and hop in before we discussed a price. She would be a popular one if she ever made it over to the K. I going to date her, but she started physically getting nervous and started moving in a "druggy" sort of way and that turned me off.

A little while later I ran into a a big toothless BSW. I don't know what the hell was going on inside the little head. But he said that he wanted this one, so I complied. She hopped in and we had a little chat and $10 for a CBJ was agreed upon. We ended up parking in a residential area to handle business, and I was a little concerned. She said "Don't worry it won't take long." Fellow mongers she was not exaggerating. I believe that I blew my load in under a minute. Granted that whenever I'm P4Ping I could care less about longevity. She obviously has MASTERED the BJ and is self assured about her "talent". The fact that she was missing four of her upper front teeth aided in the sensation kind of like the "school teacher" off of hookers at the point.

As we were leaving I witnessed something disturbing, sad, as well as dangerous. This chick had crossed the street in front of us and the BSW said "Look at that lil girl." I thought that it was just her choice of words because what I seen in front of me was a woman that looked as though she was street walking and might be dabbling in using drugs as well. The BSW went on to tell me that the chick was 15 years old and was out on the street because of her boyfriend. The BSW said that she has attempted to aide her but to no avail. Seeing that 15yr. old has me reconsidering mongering the streets. The dark of the night and the wear that the street puts on a person would make it impossible to tell that she wasn't of the age of consent. Like I said before, I could never see doing that type of time in prison. Hopefully I'll just be posting of club experiences in the future.

I have so many people on my ignore list now that this board is beginning to get slow. The hoes are out there mongers post-up.

This is a Y group escort that along with a handful of friends does outcall/incall and throws a bunch of swinger, gangbang, bukake parties. Her rate is $125 for 30min. FS. The parties that they throw range in price from about $50 to $65 and it is a smorgusboard. The creepy part is that there is a guy that runs the show and he posts ALL of the messages, be it under his user name or under the group of chicks. The writting style is VERY distinct so it is very obvious that it is him posing as the group of chicks as well as himself. But in the end the party/escort service is the real deal.