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Oldee
06-21-12, 00:24
Some things never change. They will always blame the economy (or tax season) and are far too headstrong to ever admit fault. You could accuse them of the things in the list, but they will justify it by proclaiming they "have to makkey money".

Reminds me of that scene in the latest Rocky film where he tells his son about people who blame their difficulties on others.The KBG or mama that moans to a customer: 'Nobody even buy me GL drink to today, I'm so thirsty', even tho thats AFTER been bought 10 drinks by different customers, LOL.

Captin Crunch
06-21-12, 01:42
They can also have yellow handbags, ear rings, shoes, flowers in the hair, etc. I just know I won't be buying any neko for girls not in YELLOW. Rumor has it that LVBs will be out this weekend desparately trying to protect their DKBG from us guys so ladies, you got to thank us even if you not going wear yellow. We will be posting more on snobs, robs, and princesses in the near future so don't say you wernt warned girls. The Flash Mob is coming!Will anyone do live reports on FM night? I will report where ever my mob is.

Oldee
06-21-12, 02:34
Will anyone do live reports on FM night? I will report where ever my mob is.I KNOW YOU guys that go KBs very curious, even if you go infrequently, LOL. IF you are raise your hand, LOL. IF so, we will do live reports! Hmmm, I see Oco in the back and he looks curious!

Kapakahi
06-21-12, 03:06
The KBG or mama that moans to a customer: 'Nobody even buy me GL drink to today, I'm so thirsty', even tho thats AFTER been bought 10 drinks by different customers, LOL.They have no conscience and lack empathy; it's always about them and never their fault. Try observe.

Sociopath:- noun, Psychiatry 1. *person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Captin Crunch
06-21-12, 03:17
I KNOW YOU guys that go KBs very curious, even if you go infrequently, LOL. IF you are raise your hand, LOL. IF so, we will do live reports! Hmmm, I see Oco in the back and he looks curious!Still waiting for BE to chime in and join us.

Oldee
06-21-12, 03:25
Still waiting for BE to chime in and join us.Hope he's OK and didn't get captured by the enemy.

Ocolumbo
06-21-12, 03:33
I KNOW YOU guys that go KBs very curious, even if you go infrequently, LOL. IF you are raise your hand, LOL. IF so, we will do live reports! Hmmm, I see Oco in the back and he looks curious!No can go unless and until I recover from AMP binge. Not this year and most likely not next year. One day.

Oldee
06-21-12, 08:57
No can go unless and until I recover from AMP binge. Not this year and most likely not next year. One day.LOL, I was just testing to see if lurkers was reading. It must be that LOTS of guys curious, ESPECIALLY the silent KB goers. Also, it wasnt about you going, was about if you wanted live reports. Your post was your hand raised, hehe.

Oldee
06-21-12, 09:03
Any rules for this FMing? One, two drinks and out; stay if you like; use own judgment?If not, I'll resend. Also, SS got some other suggestions. Hey SS, PM the other bros what you PMd me. SS got good suggestions for late comers and guys that want to annomyously lurk in the shadows, lol BTW, the mass PM limit is 10 guys at a time.

Kapakahi
06-21-12, 10:34
SS got some other suggestions. Hey SS, PM the other bros what you PMd me. SS got good suggestions for late comers and guys that want to annomyously lurk in the shadows, lol.Please be aware of the following:

A flash mob (or flashmob) is a group of people who assemble suddenly in a public place, perform an unusual and seemingly pointless act for a brief time, then disperse, often for the purposes of entertainment, satire, and artistic expression. Flash mobs are organized via telecommunications, social media, or viral emails.

Key phrases are: "who assemble suddenly","for a brief time, then disperse." Of course, we can make our own definition; every FMer needs to 'act together' on 'organized coordination'; simple kind rules for the FMobbing. Just a suggestion in keeping with the def of a FM.

BTW, if I can't make the FM, I will make a dayshift FM at 4:30P, same KB / KBG as already designated by your PM. I will arrive, order, and LEAVE after two (2) drinkees, approximately 40-50 minutes; no pupus and nekos.

Belot Eater
06-21-12, 22:13
BTW, where the hell is B E. We need him and his crazyness for FM!A family member is in the hospital that's why I been busy. So what day is FM? I might be busy after the FM. Not really sure yet.

Belot Eater
06-21-12, 22:32
If I'm the champagne buyer Ashley will know who I am. She will laugh if a short, fat,bald ugly dude wants to buy her champagne. Plus, the lvb will protect her.Nah, Ashley is cool with who you are. Her prize is finding out who Older is. When I told who I was she just smile like happy kind. Ask a lot of questions. She just like little sister that I never had. That why when I see her outside with her lvbs I say to myself " Oh cute my little sister trying to play date with that young boy". But when she hits 30 her mind going be fucking hot. Yes I'm not talking about her body like most guys do. But like I said she is cool. My little sis playing date a lvb at Twilight. LOL.
Did you guy knew was her bday on Monday but started celebrating on Sunday after 12.

Oldee
06-21-12, 23:19
A family member is in the hospital that's why I been busy. So what day is FM? I might be busy after the FM. Not really sure yet.Yeah, family comes first. All the best to your family member. We only indulge in a crazy not important past time anyway. FM is TOMMORROW NIGHT and SATURDAY. I will PM you. I hope you can go but no worry if you got more important things to do.

Captin Crunch
06-22-12, 00:52
If not, I'll resend. Also, SS got some other suggestions. Hey SS, PM the other bros what you PMd me. SS got good suggestions for late comers and guys that want to annomyously lurk in the shadows, lol BTW, the mass PM limit is 10 guys at a time.No pm from SS.

Oldee
06-22-12, 02:04
No pm from SS.I was just being lazy and trying to pass the buck when I asked SS, LOL.

Oldee
06-22-12, 20:49
Its tonight bros! In this KB, hailing from parts unknown, the Flash Mobbers!"Oldee hears the cheers" Their opponents with a recond of 1 million rob jobs and 0 satisfied customers, the Korean Bar Girls!"Oldee hears boos from the audience" Still not too late to go if you like join in bros. Got my phone ready in case I get any late PMs. Let's make history bros!

Shooter808
06-23-12, 07:16
Its tonight bros! In this KB, hailing from parts unknown, the Flash Mobbers!"Oldee hears the cheers" Their opponents with a recond of 1 million rob jobs and 0 satisfied customers, the Korean Bar Girls!"Oldee hears boos from the audience" Still not too late to go if you like join in bros. Got my phone ready in case I get any late PMs. Let's make history bros!Where was the FM? No updates? Can't make it tomorrow but this sounds hilarious!

Kapakahi
06-23-12, 19:18
Did the first shift FM. 4:30P, Friday. Noticed two to three nonregular, curious types who entered to survey; one left and two stayed for the FM drink and departed. I stayed for two and split but left my mark of participation inside the lua. Three to four guys wouldn't make a dent during dayshift (as the bar is big) but it's the 'showing-up' that counts! Today's FM dayshift spot will be at 3:30-4:30P as soon as FM info is available.

Oldee
06-23-12, 21:35
Didn't have as many mongers show as I wanted but there was ENOUGH! We made a difference at Twilight no doubt about it. Sure only 2 girls wore yellow but 1 was Jamie mama and of course the hot Ashley. Actually, the goal of getting girls to wear yellow was SECONDARY in importance. The goal was to have FUN! We DID! A LOT of useful info shared. Hey Uki, next time don't unconvince Spoolge, he missed out. Yeah get more hot girls than Ashley but they stay other bars which we went and nothing beats seeing for yourself. Hey Spoolge are you a young guy? LOL. Until you experience the freedom of sharing info face to face, you'll never know how fun can be. One BIG THING I realized with this thing is we got a LOT OF POTENTIAL POWER to influence the bar culture IF a FEW MORE guys willing to participate.

Uki Eater
06-24-12, 01:15
Oops, sorry Ninjalurker, Splooge, Ocolumbo, V Rider and Oldee. Forgot the inbox was full.

Kapakahi
06-24-12, 14:32
One BIG THING I realized with this thing is we got a LOT OF POTENTIAL POWER to influence the bar culture IF a FEW MORE guys willing to participate.Have a feeling that this KB FM movement will become successful because, instead if the KBs and KBGs plotting shat, now we can use FM power to influence and control the consumer-side. More guys going join because it's fun, get anonymity, and tired of being manipulated already.

This is a potentially powerful movement. Have fun with it!

Oldee
06-24-12, 16:14
Thank you for being a part of KB history and you should congratulate yourselves. Going out of the box and doing something different isn't always easy for most people but you guys did it! I'm sure our outings will be even more fun in the future. I met some cool dudes and good intel was traded. FM weekend was just plain FUN! BTW, thanks to Kapa for the idea and taking care of the day shift FM. Watch when you go bar again. If you went FM weekend, you going wish for that when its boring same ole same ole. To you bros that drank with me, thanks for putting up and bearing going with the old guy, LOL.

Captin Crunch
06-25-12, 02:06
Thank you for being a part of KB history and you should congratulate yourselves. Going out of the box and doing something different isn't always easy for most people but you guys did it! I'm sure our outings will be even more fun in the future. I met some cool dudes and good intel was traded. FM weekend was just plain FUN! BTW, thanks to Kapa for the idea and taking care of the day shift FM. Watch when you go bar again. If you went FM weekend, you going wish for that when its boring same ole same ole. To you bros that drank with me, thanks for putting up and bearing going with the old guy, LOL.Thanks Oldee for a fun weekend. We should go out again and plan the next outing. Everyone welcome to join us to brainstorm.

FrankDaTank
06-25-12, 03:07
Thanks oldee for accepting my PM! This is my first post EVER! Sorry took so long LOL! Showed up late about 9:45 ish. Had some office and paperwork to tend to earlier LOL! Sat at the bar with my buddy at twilight. Was more crowded than I expected! Bought Ivy one drink for remembering me from the last time I went the other month. Left soon after and went romantei.

Captin Crunch
06-25-12, 03:16
Ashley,

I hope it was worth it for you to go out on a limb and wear your yellow dress for us. Eorry I couldn't buy you more drinks. Maybe next time

Oldee
06-25-12, 13:27
Thanks oldee for accepting my PM! This is my first post EVER! Sorry took so long LOL! Showed up late about 9:45 ish. Had some office and paperwork to tend to earlier LOL! Sat at the bar with my buddy at twilight. Was more crowded than I expected! Bought Ivy one drink for remembering me from the last time I went the other month. Left soon after and went romantei.isn't posting painless? LOL. Hope your next post is before the next FM, LOL.

Oldee
06-25-12, 20:57
Although the timing for a lot of guys wasn't good schedule wise, FM WAS A SUCCESS! The goal was to have fun and we certainly accomplished that. Seeing Jamie mama and Ashley in yellow was very cool too. We or should I say "I" made some mistakes but overall it was good. I learned some things to look out for when we have our next outing and hopefully we prepare ourselves better. I want to make sure our neighbor island guys can participate next time so hopefully you guys can give us a heads up on your visits to honolulu. Maybe a little more flexible time wise would help too. I was NOT surprised NO KBG said the magic words,"I'm horny for you tonight" which is good because didn't have to buy SHAMPAIN, LOL. Sorry Ashley, LOL. You know, the attraction for me was meeting the bros more than the KBGs and trading intel and storys. We had a mini mob going on Saturday and was fun seeing one of the bros in action, LOL. So bros, who's up for going the next time we have another outing? No shame raise your hand, its real good fun!

FrankDaTank
06-25-12, 21:52
I'm in LOL! BTW, mama at Twilight is Jamie? Not eve?

Oldee
06-26-12, 01:04
I'm in LOL! BTW, mama at Twilight is Jamie? Not eve?Thanks bro. Jamie is mama at Casino who wore a golden yellow dress on Friday.

Kalani69
06-26-12, 13:18
Thanks bro. Jamie is mama at Casino who wore a golden yellow dress on Friday.Hey, she's wearing all yellow this morning. Was that you Tannya at the end of the bar at "New (s)" Casino?

Kapakahi
06-26-12, 14:01
Hey, she's wearing all yellow this morning. Was that you Tannya at the end of the bar at "New (s)" Casino?I was thinking the same thing, hehehe. Bright yellow inner and blouse; maybe an honorary wahine part of our KB FM (she part K, anyway)! New (s) Casino wouldn't be that lucky.

FrankDaTank
06-26-12, 14:14
Thanks bro. Jamie is mama at Casino who wore a golden yellow dress on Friday.Ah, I see, can't read right on this small screen LOL!

Oldee
06-26-12, 20:34
Ah, I see, can't read right on this small screen LOL!I wonder how many guys was / IS like you Kukaida bro. Painless to post right? You other lurkers should join in too. Neva mind if nothing special to write. Even when you go bars, you can report was junk, nothing happening etc. BTW, Kukaida bro, Ivy is the most popular girl getting neko wise at Twilight, not Asheley. Also, KBG memory is better than a genius memory, they never forget a customer even 20 years later and you only met once. Ivy specializes in LVBs. Maybe you have questions about a KBG for instance, or other questions, no shame. We just might know the hottie you been eyeing up for example and get intel. We aint picky who we accept at this lolo channel, LOL. BTW, I had a dream today (daydreaming) that Tanya Joaquim said the magic words " I'm horny for you tonight" and I had to buy her Shampain, LOL. Anyhow, come out all you lurkers, Oldee like read what you write, LOL.

USukebe2
06-26-12, 21:27
[QUOTE=Oldee; 1480550]BTW, I had a dream today (daydreaming) that Tanya Joaquim said the magic words " I'm horny for you tonight" and I had to buy her Shampain, LOL.

That's why I like this forum. Not too much drama, lots of info and you guys crack me up with this kind of postings!

Uki Eater
06-27-12, 03:18
I wonder how many guys was / IS like you Kukaida bro. Painless to post right? You other lurkers should join in too. Neva mind if nothing special to write. Even when you go bars, you can report was junk, nothing happening etc. BTW, Kukaida bro, Ivy is the most popular girl getting neko wise at Twilight, not Asheley. Also, KBG memory is better than a genius memory, they never forget a customer even 20 years later and you only met once. Ivy specializes in LVBs. Maybe you have questions about a KBG for instance, or other questions, no shame. We just might know the hottie you been eyeing up for example and get intel. We aint picky who we accept at this lolo channel, LOL. BTW, I had a dream today (daydreaming) that Tanya Joaquim said the magic words " I'm horny for you tonight" and I had to buy her Shampain, LOL. Anyhow, come out all you lurkers, Oldee like read what you write, LOL.It's obvious they shame to write because it may sound stupid to them considering who knows how many lurkers reading it. But, they just need to keep it in general and not be so specific. This way, they don't feel as shame / embarrassed to write something. Besides, the readers don't know them anyways.

It's like how someone feels embarrassed to wear a certain shirt thinking he's going to get laughed at. He's already drawing the conclusion in his head that people will laugh when he hasnt even worn the shirt in public. But, it's in all in his head. Next thing you know, he realizes it wasn't as bad as he thought. Lurkers need to realize that if other lurkers can come out and write, why can't they do the same?

Captin Crunch
06-27-12, 03:41
[QUOTE=Oldee; 1480550]BTW, I had a dream today (daydreaming) that Tanya Joaquim said the magic words " I'm horny for you tonight" and I had to buy her Shampain, LOL.

That's why I like this forum. Not too much drama, lots of info and you guys crack me up with this kind of postings!Why Usukebe, wouldn't you to buy Tanya Shampain or Showju?

FrankDaTank
06-27-12, 03:52
Thanks oldee! Crackin up about the bg's memory LOL! No worry, I'm posting up my boring encounters from now on LOL!

Captin Crunch
06-27-12, 04:01
Anyone want to go out and look for yellow dresses or shirts this week? If not, I will FM myself. Daytime okay too.

USukebe2
06-27-12, 04:17
[QUOTE=USukebe2; 1480608]Why Usukebe, wouldn't you to buy Tanya Shampain or Showju?In a heartbeat, but I'd rather take her shopping VS instead and have her first model ALL of the outfits she wanted me to buy for her! LOL

Oldee
06-27-12, 04:23
Anyone want to go out and look for yellow dresses or shirts this week? If not, I will FM myself. Daytime okay too.I believe Candyman like go, LOL.

Kapakahi
06-28-12, 05:06
No need beg anybody to have fun, express themselves, and take charge of their destiny. That's what posting and FMing is all about: fun and expression. The KB FM will grow and become a force (just watch) ; main thing keep the anonymity of FMers and purpose. It would be great to expand the dayshift FM as daytime revenues seriously impact the bottomline for KBs; they're always concerned about the dayshift tally. Anyway, just thinking out loud.

Oldee
06-28-12, 20:22
As I mentioned earlier, I wanted our neighbor Island guys have the chance to join us so waiting to hear about their schedules etc. For the next FM weekend, I was thinking of making it FLOWER FM weekend. Its where KBGs wear some kind of plant life on their person such as leis, corsage, head lei, flower in the hair, etc. Unless you want to we do NOT have to wear flowers stuff for US. Although I think Uki going have a flower above his ear. The designated bars we go to will be made public a day or 2 beforehand and we will depend a lot on LIVE REPORTS! We will also try to have a DAY FM if enough guys interested. We will reward KBGs participating and those that don't, sorry, no neko / tip for you. We will be MORE mobile and flexible this time because we have enough guys that can do live reports. We actually had more than a dozen participants for FM but a lot of guys was late etc regarding the 9pm start time. This time we will be more flexible but yet hope everyone follows directions about what time. I'm actually hoping for all you guys to make suggestions as far as activities / games within FM etc. I want it to be so lurkers / shame / spectators can watch from afar if they like and enjoy the festivities while others who crazy like me can do our thing with the boys. So what? You going or what? LOL

Kapakahi
06-29-12, 00:14
For the next FM weekend, I was thinking of making it FLOWER FM weekend. Its where KBGs wear some kind of plant life on their person such as leis, corsage, head lei, flower in the hair, etc. Unless you want to we do NOT have to wear flowers stuff for US. Although I think Uki going have a flower above his ear.LOLGood idea! How about flower print clothing, too? That way the LVB addicts can get their DKBGs all forms of flowers (real, jewelry, clothing, etc.) and FMers can blend-in with Aloha wear or flowered whatever without being too conspicuous. The DKBGs and princesses-in-their-own-minds would simply LABBU flowers! Just a thought.

Captin Crunch
06-29-12, 02:17
No need beg anybody to have fun, express themselves, and take charge of their destiny. That's what posting and FMing is all about: fun and expression. The KB FM will grow and become a force (just watch) ; main thing keep the anonymity of FMers and purpose. It would be great to expand the dayshift FM as daytime revenues seriously impact the bottomline for KBs; they're always concerned about the dayshift tally. Anyway, just thinking out loud.Kap,

What time was your daytime FM?

Captin Crunch
06-29-12, 02:36
To make a Big statement about our existance, we need to flash mob a bar during a grand opening. Instead of leaving, we should stay, drink, take up space, But Don't buy drinks. Would this work?

Oldee
06-29-12, 02:53
To make a Big statement about our existance, we need to flash mob a bar during a grand opening. Instead of leaving, we should stay, drink, take up space, But Don't buy drinks. Would this work?If we take up the whole bar and some tables, it would affect every bar we go.

Hawaii Raven
06-29-12, 04:45
Sounds like all of you that actually went to this FM had a lot of fun. I'm a neighbor island guy and wish we had something like that here on Maui but it would probably never happen. I wouldn't mind joining all of you but unfortunately, I don't think I will be on Oahu on a weekend anytime soon. If anything I would be there in the middle of the week. Maybe when UH football starts up again I will be there on a weekend. Enjoy your FM though. Enjoying reading all the reports.


As I mentioned earlier, I wanted our neighbor Island guys have the chance to join us so waiting to hear about their schedules etc. For the next FM weekend, I was thinking of making it FLOWER FM weekend. Its where KBGs wear some kind of plant life on their person such as leis, corsage, head lei, flower in the hair, etc. Unless you want to we do NOT have to wear flowers stuff for US. Although I think Uki going have a flower above his ear. The designated bars we go to will be made public a day or 2 beforehand and we will depend a lot on LIVE REPORTS! We will also try to have a DAY FM if enough guys interested. We will reward KBGs participating and those that don't, sorry, no neko / tip for you. We will be MORE mobile and flexible this time because we have enough guys that can do live reports. We actually had more than a dozen participants for FM but a lot of guys was late etc regarding the 9pm start time. This time we will be more flexible but yet hope everyone follows directions about what time. I'm actually hoping for all you guys to make suggestions as far as activities / games within FM etc. I want it to be so lurkers / shame / spectators can watch from afar if they like and enjoy the festivities while others who crazy like me can do our thing with the boys. So what? You going or what? LOL

Oldee
06-29-12, 06:43
Maybe we can do a weekday FM sometime or even go excursion to neighbor island. I don't see why you guys can't get your own FM going too bro. Maybe you can organize it, hehe. Get enough guys. I enjoy your posts when you come here and thanks for your well wishes and reading here bro.

Kapakahi
06-29-12, 08:32
If we take up the whole bar and some tables, it would affect every bar we go.The function of the FM is to make a statement (whatever it is; good or bad). If the FM affected every KB we mobbed then our purpose or mission has been served. In some cases (such as the FM not being well-received) the FM is 'in and out' so that the Flashee is confused and can't call for assistance. For example:

1. You want to punish some KB / KBG during 'grand opening'; send the FM there and disrupt the seating and move on (as MM has mentioned earlier).

2. Have the FM drink the same beer or pupu; it runs out.

3. Whatever creativity brings.

Once again, as the FM becomes larger, its impact will become greater and more influential.

Oldee
06-29-12, 21:34
There is nto FM today so the LVB army will be back in force ready to impress their DKBGs. I hope there is some live reports tonight. I will be watching and try to get some new ideas for our next FM. Watch out LVBs, the live reporters just may report on YOU! LOL. Eh you reporters, no forget buy me beer when I see you ah. I'm working on the FM so I going be thirsty.

Lumpia808
06-30-12, 01:12
There is nto FM today so the LVB army will be back in force ready to impress their DKBGs. I hope there is some live reports tonight. I will be watching and try to get some new ideas for our next FM. Watch out LVBs, the live reporters just may report on YOU! LOL. Eh you reporters, no forget buy me beer when I see you ah. I'm working on the FM so I going be thirsty.Starting early, not much happening now. Stopped by twilight, no girls yet. Seen couple girls come out of sandys and romantei with biguns.

Oldee
06-30-12, 02:53
Starting early, not much happening now. Stopped by twilight, no girls yet. Seen couple girls come out of sandys and romantei with biguns.I know get biguns there but I not there

Captin Crunch
06-30-12, 03:25
I know get biguns there but I not thereI'm in the area.

Captin Crunch
06-30-12, 03:37
I'm in the area.Business is busy

Lumpia808
06-30-12, 08:29
Was good running into fellow members again tonight. Some interesting discussions about future FM night.

How about an Odouls non alcoholic ice breaker night. First bar first beer, everyone order odouls. After whatver you normally drink

Kapakahi
06-30-12, 10:55
Kap, what time was your daytime FM?I'm flexible regarding time; between 1-6P is fine; like to wrap it up by 7P due to personal sked. Main problemo is no more wahines (except for Kalihi, maybe) early on, but seeing more 'mature' KBG migration from second shift or earlier KBG arrivals (sometimes with LVB-in-tow). Dayshift is interesting because you see LVB taxis, KBGs appreciate nekos, more mature crowd, you guys know about it.

Delayed response due to late review of posts; my posts are also not instantaneous like you folks' ones; no can make 'live reports'. But life is OK, ainokea, and the FM is creating more interest. Got to be thankful!

Captin Crunch
06-30-12, 14:45
Was good running into fellow members again tonight. Some interesting discussions about future FM night.

How about an Odouls non alcoholic ice breaker night. First bar first beer, everyone order odouls. After whatver you normally drinkSounds good. No need say yourname if you shame, but at least other members will know you're part of the gang. Just talk story and have fun!

Oldee
06-30-12, 19:04
Was good running into fellow members again tonight. Some interesting discussions about future FM night.

How about an Odouls non alcoholic ice breaker night. First bar first beer, everyone order odouls. After whatver you normally drinkI would include ANY non alcoholic drink since I hate fake beer, LOL. I don't even like lite beer! LOL. Coke, green tea. 7up, etc are good alternatives imo. Just make doing so optional. Speaking of which I get more FM info but I still sobering up. LOL.

Captin Crunch
07-01-12, 01:40
Speaking of which I get more FM info but I still sobering up. LOL.You sober now? Had fun last night? I did, but got to get some sleep tonight. Won't be going out, so can other guys post live reports?
What's the new info on the next FM?

Kapakahi
07-01-12, 19:15
Friday Kalihi KBs: GTee slow with only what appeared to be three regs on the bar with no KBGs of note; 904 slow with four bar, four floor, and four KBGs eating their employee meals (only KBG of note was slim [L6] one from Maui) ; CStation dead but best of the dayshift KBG lineup (BJ specialist and a VBG provide action) ; Kools busiest with oldest bar customers and KBGs (I'm not young, but KBGs too old for me; the village bicycle getting horrors).

Saturday Kapiolani KBs: Jasmine crowd (loud, no class) and atmosphere (dingy, no class) turning into more of a saloon, with Mary the only flower among cacti; Business is the boneyard of LVBs and KBGs of long ago; Casino KBGs are veteran vultures that will perform for room soju and are eager to deal; Ellie has two old Cinderellas with no hope who no care already; D'amour comprised of two lost souls waiting for their DLVBs while watching TV; Twilight the better 'regulars bar' for laughs and the latest skinny while mermaid-tattooed and pilut KBGs tend bar.

Dayshift is the bestest and names have not been used to protect the brain-damaged.

Oldee
07-01-12, 20:47
Yes folks, July 6&7 this coming weekend. You ALL invited and our first bar we hit will be at MoonFLOWER as apropriate for FFM weekend. We start at 9pm sharp but not a minute sooner. Remember that its real time and not bar time which is 15minutes fast. The goal is to try and go in the bar same time. Wearing some kind of flower stuff is NOT neccesarry ie:aloha shirt unless you want to. IF you want to discreetly want it to be known you one of us, order a non alcoholic drink for your first drink. Its up to you. The bar is small so grab a table if no seats and order your drinks directly from the bartender and go back to your table. Do not ask or tell strangers who you are IN the bar. However, be friendly as you will be among friends. We want those that want to participate and yet feel comfortable keeping thier IDs secret thier respect for being anonymous. Do not order more than 2 drinks there. Do not buy any neko for any KBG unless they wearing some kind of plant life on thier person. The only exception is if you find a willing play girl. Leave just before 10pm and go to Camelot to start again at 10pm sharp. Do the same as MF and leave before 11pm then go Splash and repeat. After Splash, go any bar you want and look for KBGs wearing a flower theme. The key times are 9, 10 &11pm entering those 3 bars at the same time. Please post if you plan to go so we know how many guys we can expect. You do not have to go all 3 bars or stay long but would be cool if you did. Perhaps Kapa can coordinate the day shift if enough guys interested? The past FMs was REAL GOOD FUN and not expensive too. Lets go bros! Saturday's target bars will be posted on saturday. The above is for friday, July 6.

Captin Crunch
07-01-12, 21:20
Can't make it to FM Flower Friday, but can do on Saturday. Lmk where on Saturday.

Oldee
07-01-12, 22:49
Can't make it to FM Flower Friday, but can do on Saturday. Lmk where on Saturday.Depending on guy's schedules, that's why we need to hear who like go and what day (s) they can / want to go. I know its short notice but couple neighbor isle guys said don't wait for them as they can't come honolulu anytime soon so figure no need keep the guys that like go waiting. However, let's see who wants to go first and when. If you go. KBs on the weekends anyway, you may as well join in cause its more fun than a normal weekend. We MAY even hit some VBs in a surprise attack! We need at least a dozen guys to be effective. Bring your drinking buddies bros. Lurkers, no shame join in! Even if you just like watch from afar, its better than the same ole same ole. You will remain anonymous yet get to see something DIFFERENT! BTW, you guys that went our last FM but neva talk story with me, PM me and I will tell what I'll be wearing. So guys, please post if you like go!

Belot Eater
07-02-12, 00:37
Yes folks, July 6&7 this coming weekend. You ALL invited and our first bar we hit will be at MoonFLOWER as apropriate for FFM weekend. We start at 9pm sharp but not a minute sooner. Remember that its real time and not bar time which is 15minutes fast. The goal is to try and go in the bar same time. Wearing some kind of flower stuff is NOT neccesarry ie:aloha shirt unless you want to. IF you want to discreetly want it to be known you one of us, order a non alcoholic drink for your first drink. Its up to you. The bar is small so grab a table if no seats and order your drinks directly from the bartender and go back to your table. Do not ask or tell strangers who you are IN the bar. However, be friendly as you will be among friends. We want those that want to participate and yet feel comfortable keeping thier IDs secret thier respect for being anonymous. Do not order more than 2 drinks there. Do not buy any neko for any KBG unless they wearing some kind of plant life on thier person. The only exception is if you find a willing play girl. Leave just before 10pm and go to Camelot to start again at 10pm sharp. Do the same as MF and leave before 11pm then go Splash and repeat. After Splash, go any bar you want and look for KBGs wearing a flower theme. The key times are 9, 10 &11pm entering those 3 bars at the same time. Please post if you plan to go so we know how many guys we can expect. You do not have to go all 3 bars or stay long but would be cool if you did. Perhaps Kapa can coordinate the day shift if enough guys interested? The past FMs was REAL GOOD FUN and not expensive too. Lets go bros! Saturday's target bars will be posted on saturday. The above is for friday, July 6.Saturday night, my first drink is green tea and drinking my second drink Jack shot at 11:00.

Kapakahi
07-02-12, 04:33
Perhaps Kapa can coordinate the day shift if enough guys interested? The past FMs was REAL GOOD FUN and not expensive too. Lets go bros! Saturday's target bars will be posted on saturday. The above is for friday, July 6.The dayshift FM will be conducted and aligned with the second shift FM, only earlier. The DayFM may differ slightly, if needed, to accommodate active participation. Will do a MFlower patrol between M-W to get a feel of the place before posting final plans.

Captin Crunch
07-02-12, 11:49
The dayshift FM will be conducted and aligned with the second shift FM, only earlier. The DayFM may differ slightly, if needed, to accommodate active participation. Will do a MFlower patrol between M-W to get a feel of the place before posting final plans.Probably on Saturday? What time?

Kapakahi
07-02-12, 13:09
Probably on Saturday? What time?Saturday. 3-4P for now at the designated TBA KB, anonymously. As previously posted, change (s) may occur as the FM should be unexpected. Start early, go home early; summer DUI roadblocks up from week of July 04 through August (Star Advertiser). Will finalize by Th. ; suggestions welcome from participants, keywords 'fun, surprise, anonymous. ' Later.

UkiSlamma
07-02-12, 13:51
Depending on guy's schedules, that's why we need to hear who like go and what day (s) they can / want to go. I know its short notice but couple neighbor isle guys said don't wait for them as they can't come honolulu anytime soon so figure no need keep the guys that like go waiting. However, let's see who wants to go first and when. If you go. KBs on the weekends anyway, you may as well join in cause its more fun than a normal weekend. We MAY even hit some VBs in a surprise attack! We need at least a dozen guys to be effective. Bring your drinking buddies bros. Lurkers, no shame join in! Even if you just like watch from afar, its better than the same ole same ole. You will remain anonymous yet get to see something DIFFERENT! BTW, you guys that went our last FM but neva talk story with me, PM me and I will tell what I'll be wearing. So guys, please post if you like go!I maybe able to do Friday, but Saturday is better for me.

Oldee
07-02-12, 20:55
Saturday. 3-4P for now at the designated TBA KB, anonymously. As previously posted, change (s) may occur as the FM should be unexpected. Start early, go home early; summer DUI roadblocks up from week of July 04 through August (Star Advertiser). Will finalize by Th. ; suggestions welcome from participants, keywords 'fun, surprise, anonymous. ' Later.I cannot go that early because going second shift but you are the coordinator Kapa and I will take my directions from you. You choose bar, time, etc. I can probably go 5-6pm shift. Even tho I not driving for FM, I will be drinking non alcoholic drinks early, otherwise no can handle the night shift, hehe. I know Mogo can handle 2 to 2am because he stronger than me, LOL. I might be able to make that 3-4pm time on Saturday.

Kapakahi
07-02-12, 23:58
I know Mogo can handle 2 to 2am because he stronger than me, LOL. I might be able to make that 3-4pm time on Saturday.Saturday's FM sked will be announced sometime Friday / early Sat. So that nobody can accuse us of foul play; Oldee has already given fair notice, too. The theme may be 'Independence (from KBG) Day' or 'No Tread On Me, KBG! ' Anyway, everybody welcome to the early FM (date, time, and venue TBA).

BTW, I know Oldee and MM stronger than me so everybody no need be shame to show face for anonymous, casual fun (maybe suggestions for a little mischief). Start early; go home early; no spend too much.

Captin Crunch
07-03-12, 01:47
I cannot go that early because going second shift but you are the coordinator Kapa and I will take my directions from you. You choose bar, time, etc. I can probably go 5-6pm shift. Even tho I not driving for FM, I will be drinking non alcoholic drinks early, otherwise no can handle the night shift, hehe. I know Mogo can handle 2 to 2am because he stronger than me, LOL. I might be able to make that 3-4pm time on Saturday.I only stronger than Oldee because I no drink strong beer like him. He drink real man's beer. Heehee.

Kapakahi
07-03-12, 10:04
I cannot go that early because going second shift but you are the coordinator Kapa and I will take my directions from you. You choose bar, time, etc. I can probably go 5-6pm shift.I announcing the DayFM (DFM) info only; Oldee got the main, SecondShiftFM crowd coordinates (I'm out of touch with the second shift already). DFM is not a separate entity but just providing for 'earlier' guys like me who are on another sked.

The DFM is Saturday only for now; Sunday DFM is not out of the question because it is a popular watering day. Football season is around the corner so holidays, Saturdays, and Sundays DFMs will become critically interesting to plot with many options, LOL. The customer is king, not KBG princesses.

Oldee
07-03-12, 20:35
I announcing the DayFM (DFM) info only; Oldee got the main, SecondShiftFM crowd coordinates (I'm out of touch with the second shift already). DFM is not a separate entity but just providing for 'earlier' guys like me who are on another sked.

The DFM is Saturday only for now; Sunday DFM is not out of the question because it is a popular watering day. Football season is around the corner so holidays, Saturdays, and Sundays DFMs will become critically interesting to plot with many options, LOL. The customer is king, not KBG princesses.I going, even if its 3-4pm Saturday. Just PM me where, when, and other directions Kapa bro. I don't think going have too many guys BUT, even a few daytime is a lot. Hey bros, just a reminder to all of you to PM or post if you going FM either day shift or night. BOTH shifts are don't ask don't tell so no need worry about your anonymity. Right now, its looking like only Saturday FM. BTW, you would be surprised what kind intel you can get going FM. Not only is it inexpensive going, its more fun and who knows, you just might get hooked up for cheap play, LOL. Just remember that FM is NOT only for frequent posters or long time members. Its for whoever go bars period. The bros that go are very cool too, not arrogant, high nose, stuck up weirdos too. Well, maybe just ProFuksHer Karauki, LOL. Just joking bro, LOL I really enjoyed reading your latest YMMV AMP guide for new guys post BTW.

Oldee
07-03-12, 21:05
As Mobi would say, the ability to adapt and think on your feet is an asset very important for life in general and applies especially to KBGs. I'm constantly reading KBGs and their tactics just as they do MINE. Do you not try to read them? IF not, that's a BIG handicap bros. I always adjust my game according to the type and style of the KBGs'. There is NO 1 size fits all or set strategies. You always need to be ready to adapt and learn. In other words, you got to play different games for different girls. Play / slutty girls? Practice your price negotiation skills, being suave don't matter at all. The hot trophy girl? BE DIFFERENT! Throw them off their game and have them play YOURS but they must not realize it. Its actually not that hard if you got game. Yes, I sometimes pretend to be the nice no going touch LVB but after they fall under my spell, oooh yeah baby, LOL. I don't really play that game anymore nowdays tho because take too much time and more than 1 visit. Plus, I over the hill now, LOL. You younger guys should always practice those skills tho, its good for civilians too BTW. I guess I just wanted to remind you guys to not be the TYPICAL bar goer doing the same things with with every bar girl they meet. When you go bar, WATCH all the guys in the bar and what they do. THEN, don't do what they do, LOL. Most guys in bars don't know how to get what they want. Always think out of the box to get IN the box, LOL. BTW, I was only referring to guys that want to chase the girls and not the guys that just go for drink, hang out, eat, etc. Hehe.

Kapakahi
07-04-12, 21:45
A long time ago ('70s) there was a rumor that if you hide a penny (hopefully a clean one) in your mouth under the tongue, the copper ions in the penny would negate the chemical used to detect alcohol in the breathalyzer. Not wipe it out completely, but enough to greatly affect the result. Has anybody heard of this theory? Any validity to or personal experience from this theory? This could be an amazing discovery and business blockbuster; probably expensive to pursue but could easily attract investors. The field sobriety test (breathalyzer) is inadmissable in court but they still retain the number for secondary evidence and probable cause purposes.

Have also been advised by a fellow member that there may be a problem with viewing posts from others unless they (reader or poster) are logged-in. I do not logout so maybe that's the problem or vice versa?

I will post Saturday's daytime FM times and rules shortly. The names of the venues will be announced separately and late in order to keep the 'surprise factor. '

Uki Eater
07-04-12, 22:06
This is an awesome post Oldee. Most guys that go KB have the one track mind outlook (narrow thinking) They see things as already a given if they coming in with money. Especially, for some of the guys who do splurge a lot. They feel they have that right because they are spending alot. So, they help themselves to the grabbing and FIV. This is their mentality.

"Shit, I spending this much I'm going to grab her ass, fiv and maul her tits!"

Or.

"Damn, I bought 6 drinks already. I wonder why she's not doing anything? Hmm, maybe I'm not spending enough?"

Both of these are the one track minded outlook. I guess for most guys, it is just too much thinking and thought process involved to try and do what you just posted about reading them out, analyzing them and adapting. Plus they're too caught up in that moment looking for fun / excitement mode to even bother. When the fun is done and they go home,

"Shit! I can't believe I spent that much on her!"

LOL.

Oldee
07-05-12, 01:14
Thanks Ukster bro, altho I just wanted Lurking LVBs to read that. Just be aware that KBGs are working out strategies every second they are with you. Shouldn't you do the same? Thinking is also working when they apply what they think. So HOW can you tell if you making progress and winning the game? You listening good LVBs? Its when money (from you) , is no longer an issue, and they like you for you, not your money. However, don't be too happy if that happens, in fact, might be better if she didn't like you. Why? KBGs are notorious for being psycho and it might be a ***** to get rid of them. If you want to play with fire, expect to get burned, BADLY, LOL. This is why its never recommended to get involved with a KBG. While there may be exceptions, the odds are slim to none. These days, I play the same game as SS, Mobi, Uki, Mogo, etc. OR the MESS WITH THEIR MIND game, LOL. This is a very fun game but not recomended for most guys, unless you crazy like me, LOL. If you don't have a sense of humor, don't even try this game or you might get killed, LOL. DISCLAIMER: YMMV and Im just passing on what has worked for me, as Im no expert. I did however have mentors long ago that gave me good advice that works for me. Someday, it will be the Ukis, Jehutys, Lumps bros passing on their wisdom to the next generation when us ole futs too old to play, lol.

Kapakahi
07-05-12, 02:29
Most guys that go KB have the one track mind outlook (narrow thinking) They see things as already a given if they coming in with money. Especially, for some of the guys who do splurge a lot. LOL.It's easy to sense when the KBG is plotting to lure or bait you. Their KB facial and physical expressions are so similarly exaggerated and animated; I think they watch too many K-dramas; they all the same.

What you need to be aware of is their non-KB expressions. In other words, their true nature and feelings toward you. It's quite similar to someone who hasn't quite learned to mask their feelings for another. The differences are subtle but remember that one is money-driven and the other is not, although you must always be wary and suspicious. That's why relations with a KBG is 'geev'um and leave'um' or 'do unto others. ' Whatever the case, KBG relations are not permanent because you ain't the only one and will never become it.

If you think you'll beat the odds and become 'the one' then please stop drinking, look in the mirror, and seek help immediately. Better yet, look at your DKBG without makeup; that'll wake you up.

Kapakahi
07-05-12, 11:20
The Saturday (07/07/12) DFM rules are posted on the KB Reports thread. Thanks for the interest and participation!

Kapakahi
07-05-12, 14:00
The two confidential KBs have been selected. Please PM regular posters for the info; locations and rules are confidential to DFM participants. Please following the KB order of mobbing and do not PM me late for info as I do not have wikiwiki access.

HMobius: attempted to PM you but unable per the following: "non-recipient". If you are not a PM recipient, please excuse the mistake; regular and senior contributors were selected.

The two selected sites should be hilarious as the KBG bartenders are 'numb' and the regular groups are starting to file in. If get plenty mobbers they will shat in their penties.

Oldee
07-09-12, 00:51
While there were less participants than previous outings (I think) , it was still fun! The fact that it was short notice and many of you couldn't make due to schedules etc didn't detract from the fact that its a fun and inexpensive outing for those that went. I really appreciate you guys that did go bros. I KNOW those of you who didn't go were at least interested in how it went. We probably need to give more advance notice next time but we are learning. For FFM, we posted our night targets in public so lurkers could go and I'm sure a few did. For our next one tho, I want to keep the target bars secret again like DFM was to surprise the KBGs. There was very interesting stuff we did but no can post because they would know who we was but was good fun! FMs are inexpensive, fun, AND you can remain anonymous. So bros, your schedules permitting, who's. Up for going to the next one? Please post your comments, suggestions, and if you interested in going. We'll give more notice for the next one and maybe go Kalihi again for more impact? Eh ProfuksHer KaraUki, we missed your singing, where was you? Getting off at the AMP? LOL.

H Mobius
07-09-12, 01:49
HMobius: attempted to PM you but unable per the following: "non-recipient". If you are not a PM recipient, please excuse the mistake; regular and senior contributors were selected.Perhaps it needs the space between "H" and "Mobius", as my userid was established that way.

Thanks for the offer though. As it turns out, I stayed home that weekend.

H M

Uki Eater
07-09-12, 02:27
While there were less participants than previous outings (I think) , it was still fun! The fact that it was short notice and many of you couldn't make due to schedules etc didn't detract from the fact that its a fun and inexpensive outing for those that went. I really appreciate you guys that did go bros. I KNOW those of you who didn't go were at least interested in how it went. We probably need to give more advance notice next time but we are learning. For FFM, we posted our night targets in public so lurkers could go and I'm sure a few did. For our next one tho, I want to keep the target bars secret again like DFM was to surprise the KBGs. There was very interesting stuff we did but no can post because they would know who we was but was good fun! FMs are inexpensive, fun, AND you can remain anonymous. So bros, your schedules permitting, who's. Up for going to the next one? Please post your comments, suggestions, and if you interested in going. We'll give more notice for the next one and maybe go Kalihi again for more impact? Eh ProfuksHer KaraUki, we missed your singing, where was you? Getting off at the AMP? LOL.Yah sorry. Had other plans last night. It wasn't the AMPs though.

Kapakahi
07-09-12, 03:00
While there were less participants than previous outings (I think) , it was still fun! I really appreciate you guys that did go bros. For FFM, we posted our night targets in public so lurkers could go and I'm sure a few did. For our next one tho, I want to keep the target bars secret again like DFM was to surprise the KBGs. There was very interesting stuff we did but no can post because they would know who we was but was good fun! We'll give more notice for the next one and maybe go Kalihi again for more impact?Participating in the DFM was quick, regimented, and nobody got hurt! It won't take away from your schedule or agenda so mobbing should be something to consider if you're outside anyway. The DFM was designed to be 'in house' for mobbers, therefore the lower turnout; quality guys committed (not only talk) to the movement took a stand and were counted! I believe that, as we grow, anonymity and surprise are our friend and weapon. You can be sure the KBGs keep many secrets themselves so let's not let them know our movements. Kalihi sounds good for FM.

Once again, we need to have rules and someone as an anchor to keep an organized and casual appearance; we no like the KBGs waiting for us to show! Of course, a leader depends on input and commitment to decide on a course of action; like going to KBG war, LOL.

Oldee
07-09-12, 22:52
While cruising various bars this weekend, I couldn't help but notice just how prim and proper MOST guys at the bars were. They all sat nicely and was very respectful not to sit too close and OBEY the commands of their DKBGs. This meant no play and yes to every demand for the next neko. All they wanted to do was TALK or LISTEN in between buying more drinks. I thought to myself, how sad and pitiful that they ENJOY this. Ok, MAYBE if the girl is interesting but most KBGs are not good conversationalists or interesting in that way imo. Its the same routine with LVBs, buy nekos until they leave thinking that their money spent was appreciated. The only people that might appreciate them is the second shift guys, LOL. Their DKBGs do not have an ounce of gratitude in most cases and their thank yous really mean please CONTINUE to SPEND money on me next time. They have given up their power to be the CUSTOMER. They would be shocked to know you can sit with bar girls and NOT BUY nekos for long time and they not mad and even have good fun sometimes. Some of the bros sat with KBGs this FM weekend for 1hour and didn't buy neko having good fun with them. They were pretty hot chicks too BTW. That doesn't happen all the time but it can be done. And NO, we didn't really know them or bought them drinks before. Hey LVBs, like know how? Enroll in ALOHA KB CANCER school and come to the next FM. LOL. Btw CC, I didnt know you was that handsome and such a stylish dresser, thats why I didnt know that was you. I thought all the FM guys was ugly like us, lol.

Alohaoe
07-09-12, 23:15
While cruising various bars this weekend, I couldn't help but notice just how prim and proper MOST guys at the bars were. They all sat nicely and was very respectful not to sit too close and OBEY the commands of their DKBGs. This meant no play and yes to every demand for the next neko. All they wanted to do was TALK or LISTEN in between buying more drinks. I thought to myself, how sad and pitiful that they ENJOY this. Ok, MAYBE if the girl is interesting but most KBGs are not good conversationalists or interesting in that way imo. Its the same routine with LVBs, buy nekos until they leave thinking that their money spent was appreciated. The only people that might appreciate them is the second shift guys, LOL. Their DKBGs do not have an ounce of gratitude in most cases and their thank yous really mean please CONTINUE to SPEND money on me next time. They have given up their power to be the CUSTOMER. They would be shocked to know you can sit with bar girls and NOT BUY nekos for long time and they not mad and even have good fun sometimes. Some of the bros sat with KBGs this FM weekend for 1hour and didn't buy neko having good fun with them. They were pretty hot chicks too BTW. That doesn't happen all the time but it can be done. And NO, we didn't really know them or bought them drinks before. Hey LVBs, like know how? Enroll in ALOHA KB CANCER school and come to the next FM. LOL.I have a girl at EG that I see once in while, I'm always a gentlemen buy her and her friends drinks. But when I leave I ask her can I see you tomorrow gives me a small peck on the lips and sez OK. It must be slow there she text me Friday night at 10pm that she miss me in Korean, But I was going home from Cleopatra curfew 10pm.

Old man alohaoe

Lumpia808
07-10-12, 01:11
Had a bachelor party at RockZa this past Friday, got to wasted to go out FM night the next day. BTW, the girls at RockZa looked wack..

CheapCharlie
07-10-12, 01:13
While cruising various bars this weekend, I couldn't help but notice just how prim and proper MOST guys at the bars were. They all sat nicely and was very respectful not to sit too close and OBEY the commands of their DKBGs. This meant no play and yes to every demand for the next neko. All they wanted to do was TALK or LISTEN in between buying more drinks. I thought to myself, how sad and pitiful that they ENJOY this. Ok, MAYBE if the girl is interesting but most KBGs are not good conversationalists or interesting in that way imo. Its the same routine with LVBs, buy nekos until they leave thinking that their money spent was appreciated. The only people that might appreciate them is the second shift guys, LOL. Their DKBGs do not have an ounce of gratitude in most cases and their thank yous really mean please CONTINUE to SPEND money on me next time. They have given up their power to be the CUSTOMER. They would be shocked to know you can sit with bar girls and NOT BUY nekos for long time and they not mad and even have good fun sometimes. Some of the bros sat with KBGs this FM weekend for 1hour and didn't buy neko having good fun with them. They were pretty hot chicks too BTW. That doesn't happen all the time but it can be done. And NO, we didn't really know them or bought them drinks before. Hey LVBs, like know how? Enroll in ALOHA KB CANCER school and come to the next FM. LOL. Btw CC, I didnt know you was that handsome and such a stylish dresser, thats why I didnt know that was you. I thought all the FM guys was ugly like us, lol.Nah brother, I not stylish or handsome. ROB Kay and legendary Vanessa, both said I was ugly. Maybe thas why I get low self esteem. How much cost for enroll in ALKBC school?

Belot Eater
07-10-12, 01:19
Participating in the DFM was quick, regimented, and nobody got hurt! It won't take away from your schedule or agenda so mobbing should be something to consider if you're outside anyway. The DFM was designed to be 'in house' for mobbers, therefore the lower turnout; quality guys committed (not only talk) to the movement took a stand and were counted! I believe that, as we grow, anonymity and surprise are our friend and weapon. You can be sure the KBGs keep many secrets themselves so let's not let them know our movements. Kalihi sounds good for FM.

Once again, we need to have rules and someone as an anchor to keep an organized and casual appearance; we no like the KBGs waiting for us to show! Of course, a leader depends on input and commitment to decide on a course of action; like going to KBG war, LOL.Hopefully one day when I don't have to work I'll be able to go DFM.

Oldee
07-10-12, 01:59
Nah brother, I not stylish or handsome. ROB Kay and legendary Vanessa, both said I was ugly. Maybe thas why I get low self esteem. How much cost for enroll in ALKBC school?Tuition fee is only 1 beer! Also, I going give you your first lesson now. When bar girls call you ugly, that really means you SMART! When you buy nekos, the more you buy, the more handsome you get, LOL.

Captin Crunch
07-10-12, 02:32
Had a bachelor party at RockZa this past Friday, got to wasted to go out FM night the next day. BTW, the girls at RockZa looked wack.Who getting married? You? LOL.

CheapCharlie
07-10-12, 02:54
Tuition fee is only 1 beer! Also, I going give you your first lesson now. When bar girls call you ugly, that really means you SMART! When you buy nekos, the more you buy, the more handsome you get, LOL.LOL, thanks for the advice.

Oldee
07-10-12, 03:40
I have a girl at EG that I see once in while, I'm always a gentlemen buy her and her friends drinks. But when I leave I ask her can I see you tomorrow gives me a small peck on the lips and sez OK. It must be slow there she text me Friday night at 10pm that she miss me in Korean, But I was going home from Cleopatra curfew 10pm.

Old man alohaoeMy beer cheap and I might know some KBGs who going give you more than a peck on the lips, LOL.

GKaniho
07-10-12, 04:35
. It must be slow there she text me Friday night at 10pm that she miss me in Korean, But I was going home from Cleopatra curfew 10pm.

Old man alohaoeOnce you get that text, she must be slow. OR you are the MAN! Got to teach me how brother Alohaoe.

Guy

Oldee
07-10-12, 21:18
Its not this coming weekend so relax if you thought so but maybe next weekend after this one? Please make suggestions and ideas for where in Kalihi, when, agenda, theme, etc. Hell, maybe even 1 night Kalihi and other night Town, hehe. I'm pretty sure we going to have more guys this time too. I just know Kalihi starts much earlier girls coming to work wise so got to go earlier. Maybe combine day and night shift guys so go at 5pm? Just thinking out loud. Still, a lot guys no can go early OR late so got to see what everyone's schedules are like. I know, its very hard to get everyone at 1 place at 1 time. Anyhow, please post if you like go and your suggestions and ideas. Hey Kapa, you going plan the DFM right? I KNOW this one going be good!

Belot Eater
07-10-12, 22:57
Once you get that text, she must be slow. OR you are the MAN! Got to teach me how brother Alohaoe.

GuyNo girls texts / call me anymore. So must be bars are busy or my money no good. Hehe ah save money. So shave my balls, two of them. Going try AMP again. Anybody recommend witch one I should make my first report?

Kapakahi
07-11-12, 00:29
Its not this coming weekend so relax if you thought so but maybe next weekend after this one? Maybe combine day and night shift guys so go at 5pm? Anyhow, please post if you like go and your suggestions and ideas. I KNOW this one going be good!Good idea to combo the FMs for more impact and fun; the time is right on, too. I liked the way the bartenders at Buttfly and Ellie's (even Ellie herself) reacted to the "sudden" influx of bodies; even the six or seven FMers made a difference (if you knew what was going on, LOL!). Got small KBs in Kalihi so should be hilarious to rush one KB and then leave just as quickly, hehehe!
I think the timing if moving from one KB to another needs to be adjusted; it was too quick for me as I am not a guzzler. Didn't know that I was going to enjoy seeing the bar fill. In fact, didn't know what to expect but it was neat seeing fellow FMers moving together; some guys came in twos and even threes so that may be a way for shy guys to at least come see what it's about and make suggestions. I figure we can get ten mobbers this time.
The FINAL venue (s) , times, and KB (s) selected will be confidential. Suggestions and ideas are encouraged and welcomed in order to promote a fun and safe FM! Everbody take care until we meet again!

Captin Crunch
07-11-12, 01:09
No girls texts / call me anymore. So must be bars are busy or my money no good. Hehe ah save money. So shave my balls, two of them. Going try AMP again. Anybody recommend witch one I should make my first report?Uki, give BE a good recomendation. I would suggest BE to do the B2b with Bobbi or Kelly

Kapakahi
07-11-12, 10:14
KB News Headlines: "Punahou Grad Pushes Papas; Minions At Maya's Cause Malfunctions; Suji's Start-Up Suspicious; Flash Mob Is Fabulous Fodder; KBGs Rely On Reeling LVBs; etc." The KB Hawaii News Headlines and cast of characters are never-ending and embarrASSing, LOL! No worries, Karma's arriving in the form of the FM!

GKaniho
07-11-12, 15:00
KB News Headlines: "Punahou Grad Pushes Papas; Minions At Maya's Cause Malfunctions; Suji's Start-Up Suspicious; Flash Mob Is Fabulous Fodder; KBGs Rely On Reeling LVBs; etc." The KB Hawaii News Headlines and cast of characters are never-ending and embarrASSing, LOL! No worries, Karma's arriving in the form of the FM!Awwwwright FM!

Belot Eater
07-11-12, 19:32
Uki, give BE a good recomendation. I would suggest BE to do the B2b with Bobbi or KellyBobbie is real busy now, beside Uki no like share untill I post my first post at the AMP. I think a lot of the guys on the forum are waiting to see if I would do it. Who knows, I might be posting already in a different name. Hehe.

Oldee
07-11-12, 21:04
Awwwwright

FM!Garans you going have fun when we go. My esp says you the kine for real handsome and studly so got to have you matched up with the hotties, LOL.

GKaniho
07-11-12, 21:40
Garans you going have fun when we go. My esp says you the kine for real handsome and studly so got to have you matched up with the hotties, LOL.I not sure about the handsome part but being matched up with the hotties is all good for bruddah Guy! Awwwwright!

Niner Whiner
07-12-12, 04:54
Its not this coming weekend so relax if you thought so but maybe next weekend after this one? Please make suggestions and ideas for where in Kalihi, when, agenda, theme, etc. Hell, maybe even 1 night Kalihi and other night Town, hehe. I'm pretty sure we going to have more guys this time too. I just know Kalihi starts much earlier girls coming to work wise so got to go earlier. Maybe combine day and night shift guys so go at 5pm? Just thinking out loud. Still, a lot guys no can go early OR late so got to see what everyone's schedules are like. I know, its very hard to get everyone at 1 place at 1 time. Anyhow, please post if you like go and your suggestions and ideas. Hey Kapa, you going plan the DFM right? I KNOW this one going be good!How 'about 1st and 2nd shift? 5-8, break, and den 9-12?

Maybe in-between the shifts, meet at one place like CS for regroup, hang, drink (or sober up a little) , and grindz late dinner.

Oldee
07-12-12, 20:21
How 'about 1st and 2nd shift? 5-8, break, and den 9-12?

Maybe in-between the shifts, meet at one place like CS for regroup, hang, drink (or sober up a little) , and grindz late dinner.Good to have suggestions! If we go till 12 tho, we may hit every bar in Kailhi, LOL. What about a theme Niner bro? Perhaps 9-12 is town? I'm just thinking out loud again. A bar to just relax and grind sounds good tho. Also, thanks Cha Ja for Kalihi recent climate and bar suggestions via PM. Suggest away guys!

Vapor909
07-12-12, 23:10
Good to have suggestions! If we go till 12 tho, we may hit every bar in Kailhi, LOL. What about a theme Niner bro? Perhaps 9-12 is town? I'm just thinking out loud again. A bar to just relax and grind sounds good tho. Also, thanks Cha Ja for Kalihi recent climate and bar suggestions via PM. Suggest away guys!9 is late by Kalihi time. Lots of girls go home by 10 since it gets so slow and for the old KBGs it's past their bedtime. LOL Kalihi is more for the pauhana crowd although if you go after 10 get plenty of them drunk already is you may have more fun, but with slim pickins.

Oldee
07-12-12, 23:29
9 is late by Kalihi time. Lots of girls go home by 10 since it gets so slow and for the old KBGs it's past their bedtime. LOL Kalihi is more for the pauhana crowd although if you go after 10 get plenty of them drunk already is you may have more fun, but with slim pickins.Thats why I was thinking Kalihi early, and town later. Plus, you young guys no like OLDER KBGS. In town, many of the girls don't start till 9 or even later. Kalihi is the opposite. Keep the suggestions coming bros.

Oldee
07-15-12, 00:22
Don't know if we should go next weekend or the following but I personally would like to have at least a dozen guys going this time. There's usually about that much that participate but not all together at once. Some of you don't know your schedule availabilitys but you can just post to wanting to go should your schedule permit. Its still don't ask don't tell so don't be scared about your being anonymous. There are some of us that wanted to meet each other but we wanted to. Others participated but happily remain anonymous. Then there are those that want to decide spur of the moment which is cool too but it would be very exciting knowing a big gang is going. Bars nowdays without FM kind of boring.

Niner Whiner
07-15-12, 06:52
Plus, you young guys no like OLDER KBGS.Not me, I LOVE the older KBGs.

Those that know, as I'm sure you do, oldee, know.

The younger princessy KBGs who get all the attention is like one fancy restaurant. Reservations needed or you have to wait for one seat, only get dine in, you not the only customer in the restaurant, you overpay for everything, got to tip big, no get take out-unless you willing to pay plenty extra or know the owner of the restaurant, and only cash and credit card can be used to "pay", unless you choose take out, then jewelry, apartment, car, bags, or other expensive payments is REQUIRED (ask your server for details)

But the older KBGs is like going drive-in or one place like Zippy's. No need reservations, not expensive, get more selection, you can take your time and not be rushed, there is dine in or take out available, they only take cash and credit cards, and sometimes get discounts (in this case, for being younger). And other expensive payment methods for take out is optional.

Kapakahi
07-15-12, 10:05
Don't know if we should go next weekend or the following but I personally would like to have at least a dozen guys going this time. Bars nowdays without FM kind of boring.Surprisingly, the DFM had between 6-8 solid mobbers and tailgaters so 12 FMers at one time should be easy to assemble. If the DFM was Saturday, both Ellie's and D'amour would have been SRO!

The reason: I believe scouts for golf or other groups are using this thead for info. Overheard three guys at the two KBs mention that "the thread said the pupus was good here" and "the post said nekohanas are $10 on Tuesdays." Anyway, I think it's this thread they're mentioning.

Getting back to the FM, if we can arrange for one group then guarans can put together 10-12 guys. Got time to plan but suggest that the date, time, and rules are decided ASAP so that people can plan.

Oldee
07-15-12, 13:59
Its on guys PM Kapakahi for info and agenda. For those that want to go town FM after or can't make the early FM, it depends how many of you can and want to go. For now, its just Kalihi this upcoming Saturday. EVERYONE welcome but you got to PM Kapa for info but dont ask for info unless you going.

Kapakahi
07-15-12, 17:57
Its on guys PM Kapakahi for info and agenda. For those that want to go town FM after or can't make the early FM, it depends how many of you can and want to go. For now, its just Kalihi this upcoming Saturday. EVERYONE welcome but you got to PM Kapa for info but dont ask for info unless you going.See the KB Reports thread for FM info.

Oldee
07-16-12, 00:29
If you are reading this, us forum posters would like to to say thanks for reading! When the forum software showed views, there was over 1K views daily and didn't recount same IPs of guys checking 15times a day. This means that us posters are a very small minority and its you the lurkers and KBGs who make up the majority readership! At our last FM, there were a few of you lurkers that went so we KNOW you are out there. Thanks! To give you an example, despite all the bargoers in all the bars this weekend, how many different reports were there? Yes, not many. In other words, most guys don't report yet go. This is the information age and even us old futs use the internet to some degree and MOST younger guys are active users and readers. IF you are a lurker, I encourage you to join the party! You will get more of the info you seek and still remain anonymous! To our KBG readers, don't hate us, we only write about our experiences and try to help guys enjoy their time at the bars. If you don't like what we write, you can respond too as its free speech in the USA, LOL. Then there's you LVB lurkers, seeing if we write about your DKBG. No shame share, we don't bite, LOL. We're actually on your side as most of us are recovering LVBholics, LOL. So lurkers, come say hello, we're waiting for your posts!

Kapakahi
07-16-12, 01:11
For those that want to go town FM after or can't make the early FM, it depends how many of you can and want to go. For now, its just Kalihi this upcoming Saturday.PMs of the selected KBs will be sent to regular and interested posters; no need to PM me unless it's confidential. I'm being discreet about the selected KBs to ensure a protected, anonymous, and safe FM.

If you're not on the PM list please be patient; LVB spies and KBG morphs are everywhere. Oldee has informed me of the current PM listees and I will only disclose the specific sites per Oldee's judgment.

Of course, once the FM family grows past 50, who cares because we will dominate.

Uki Eater
07-16-12, 01:44
To our KBG readers, don't hate us, we only write about our experiences and try to help guys enjoy their time at the bars. If you don't like what we write, you can respond too as its free speech in the USA, LOL.Heh, would be interesting if KBGs start chiming in. LOL. But, guys on here probably cannot help but get on the KBGs case about the lies and tricks that they pull. So, they'll gang up and be bashing on her because of those reasons.

But, if we were in a BGs shoes, would we be completely honest to customers? If someone were to say yes, then how would you balance out seeing different customers if you were honest?

"I can't hunnee, I have a date with this guy who spends alot on me. Sorry. Maybe next time when its slow and I don't have many customers I'll call you ok?"

Oldee
07-16-12, 02:38
Heh, would be interesting if KBGs start chiming in. LOL. But, guys on here probably cannot help but get on the KBGs case about the lies and tricks that they pull. So, they'll gang up and be bashing on her because of those reasons.

But, if we were in a BGs shoes, would we be completely honest to customers? If someone were to say yes, then how would you balance out seeing different customers if you were honest?

"I can't hunnee, I have a date with this guy who spends alot on me. Sorry. Maybe next time when its slow and I don't have many customers I'll call you ok?"I don't think everyone would jump all over a KBG poster now as they have in the past imo. Maybe some would but most wouldn't and I think we all would be interested to hear THEIR perspectives on things. Non posting KBG lurkers probably don't post because we just write the truth. A KBG poster brave enough to do so is probably intelligent and don't see us as the enemy or victims like most KBGs. In other words, I highly doubt a ROB KBG would post but rather someone different. For example, my KBG PM pen pal who is very popular would have guys trying to kiss ass rather than bash her i think, lol.

Oldee
07-16-12, 21:00
1). You can participate and yet be totally ANONYMOUS. There are those that make arrangements ahead via PM to meet each other but others can do their own thing and noone would know who you are. Shipshape and Kapa are examples. They smarter than the rest of us, LOL.

2). Its INEXPENSIVE! Less than 10 bucks or less including tip and probably get pupus!

3). Its FUN! Watch the look on KBG faces as we mob their bar among other things.

4). Its FLEXIBLE! It won't take much out of your normal routine and you can leave early or come late even and do what you normally do.

5). Its SAFE! We having good clean fun not hurting anyone or even getting drunk (except me).

6). Satisfy your CURIOSITY! Is Oldee really that Old? Does Uki really giggle? Is Kapa really that handsome? Can Mogo really drink that much? Is BE really crazy?

7. COMRADERIE! Be among fellow bros that go bars and been through what you been through. You will be among friends. We just havnt physically met each other yet.

8). Make a STATEMENT to KBs and KBGs. We are out there. Don't forget not all customers are stupid or LVBs.

9) Receive good INTEL! There is CHOKE intel to be gotten that can't be written on the forums. Past Mobbers know what I talking about.

10). Be part of HISTORY. You can tell the next generation you was there at the beginning of changing the bar climate back in the day. They will thank you.

I know some of you lurkers reading and like go. No problem and welcome bros. Just post that you like go. Hell, even the AMP guys curious, right Oco bro? LOL.

Kapakahi
07-16-12, 22:49
1). Shipshape and Kapa are examples. They smarter than the rest of us, LOL.

6). Satisfy your CURIOSITY! Is Kapa really that handsome?Are you sure we haven't already met? Nah, Nah.

Kapakahi
07-17-12, 14:38
SAG sighting this 730A at a popular Ala Wai venue:

1. Whitish sport skirt and powder blue cardigan top; 5'05".120 lbs. 34cees (implanted).

2. Face hood, dark sunglasses, hat. The face mask's the kicker. This KBG or AMPG (I'll tell why soon) is making Secret Asian either for more attention, hiding from creditors, or just had a facial procedure.

Methinks this actress is watching too much KDramas. Why would anybody wishing for anonymity go to a very popular. 18 hours a day, venue? Anyway, my reasoning for this AMPG or KBG is because I recognized her vehicle (sorry, will not divulge plates) ; red Cooper with split rear doors. I believe she used to work at Pharaoh, moved to Kalihi, and whatever after that. She was popular during the Pharaoh gig and could have been considered one of the top KBGs there; pretty infamous, in fact. The name escapes me.

Oldee
07-17-12, 19:47
Are you sure we haven't already met? Nah, Nah.THEY are the fathers of color weekend and Flash Mob respectively. I only work for and under them. In other words, I do the garut work, LOL. Kinda like Charlie of Charlie's Angels and I'm Bosley, LOL.

Shipshape
07-18-12, 00:41
LOL Oldee, If I was so smart I wouldn't be seen in KB, VB bars. I think maybe I'm the most stoopit out there as I keep repeating and returning. Only difference now is that I expect a certain higher level of "Entertainment" in exchange for the twenties. Holding hands doesn't even come close to an equal service / kala exchange. Having said that, I've noticed a bit of an upswing in service. Perhaps it's wishful thinking, but it would seem some of the regular, longer term KBG's are getting just a little worried about their futures. Some KBG's are moving to more aggressiveness either in service or drink pushing, some are considering "sealing the deal" with their loverboy client and getting out of the business (well at least until the lvb kicks) , and some are actually pretty good at real estate investment and setting up their "retirement". All kinds out there and it sure is reading that at minimum they're nervous about what's going on inside and outside of the bars. Watching them from my seat at the bar (and this may be just my misguided perception) I would say I sense a ambiance of Desparation.

So all you lvb's get out there and help DKBG (or VBG). Buy them lots of drinkee's. Get them buzzed up for us 2nd shifters. Thanks!

Ss

Kapakahi
07-18-12, 04:45
LOL Oldee, If I was so smart I wouldn't be seen in KB, VB bars. I think maybe I'm the most stoopit out there as I keep repeating and returning. Watching them from my seat at the bar (and this may be just my misguided perception) I would say I sense a ambiance of Desparation.

So all you lvb's get out there and help DKBG (or VBG). Buy them lots of drinkee's. Get them buzzed up for us 2nd shifters. Thanks! SsAlthough the situation's improving, still got plenty sassy KBG princesses out there but that's due to Hopelessly LVBs. They'd be better off at an AMP or EHarmony. Enough of them for now.

Us guys (independent, dayshift, NEON, regulars) got a few KBs and KBGs on edge. Due to the service getting worse when their LVB-based golf groups arrive, we all leave; tired of shatty service and tunnel-vision amateur bartenders already. In fact, when any distraction enters the KB we leave because the babooze KBG bartenders no can handle chewing gum and breathing at the same time. Get plenty places to go rather than getting upshet about getting one new beer within ten to twelve minutes. Just like one boycott, yeah?

Kapakahi
07-18-12, 09:59
I believe thou art too modest and downplaying your role, kind sir. I only suggested the FM and you managed its reality by getting input and marketing the concept; now we're going for FM2 and stirring-up something with much potential. Now only if we can be like the younger ones here and FM with 200-300 pax! KBGs would be begging us for bijiness (nekos, tips, bodies) ; we make concessions for that, of course.

"Araso, mama X. We (100 mobbers) going come your place for three hours tonight, drink five each, buy one KBG 100 mini neko ($10 each; we choose) , and leave five dollah tip each. Talk to MM and BE for the 'exchanges. '"

Oldee
07-18-12, 23:06
I pretty much been noticing what SS and Kapa have recently. Many KBGs don't even come to work on weekdays or go home early. Older LVB guys are the main targets and you can tell they treat those guys like prized possesions. Guys STILL helping second shift guys trying to get the girls drunk to no avail except they getting more drunk than the girls and spending all their money, LOL. I don't even bother with the young princess KBGs with no personality and total waste of time and money. All the LVBs at Camelot, Business, Casino, and Tommorrow really wasting money and spoiling the girls. If you want play, forget the young ones. Overall, its slow all over and there are some good opportunities if you know what to look for. Right now, FM is the best fun for your money imo.

Captin Crunch
07-19-12, 00:01
Day flaesh mob is happening this Saturday in Kalihi. Where is Night flash mob happening? Kalihi too? I know I not staying out to 2 am this time. Last time I did this day / night flash mob thing, I drank way Too much. I better pace myself or I might think the "ladies" in Kalihi are cute and might make me horny enough to buy drinkees. Kapa, make sure I no drink fast like you. Okay?

Kapakahi
07-19-12, 03:13
Where is Night flash mob happening? Kalihi too? Kapa, make sure I no drink fast like you. Okay?I don't know if there's an NFM this time; get or what, Oldee. I know that I'm not a guzzler; maybe the first one or two taste good guzzling but after that I pace. Besides, if get one NFM, mo bettah pace yourself, too (I not staying out later than 730P).

The reason for 5-7P Kalihi is to avoid the DUI crew. Of course, if you find one cute KBG then I guess you going stay but usually the Kalihi KBGs are at least a 6-Pack Cute (or more to look younger). Some of them ajummas put plenty bondo and stage makeup so they appear less scary.

No worry if you guzzle and buy neko plenty because we just going scold you later.

Kapakahi
07-19-12, 10:45
The confidential KB FM sites have been sent via PM. Unable to PM the following due to "not in database:" HMobius, Lumpia 808, Ninja Lurker, Vapor 909 (Oldee to kokua; mahalo, Oldee). All other serious, interested participants please request for the confidential sites via PM; FYI, you will added to the PM network receiving future communication (s). Better than getting text from one KBG: "Hunni, I miss you; you come tonight keep me company. Bogoshippo yo!". LOL!

CheapCharlie
07-19-12, 18:30
I don't know if there's an NFM this time; get or what, Oldee. I know that I'm not a guzzler; maybe the first one or two taste good guzzling but after that I pace. Besides, if get one NFM, mo bettah pace yourself, too (I not staying out later than 730P).

The reason for 5-7P Kalihi is to avoid the DUI crew. Of course, if you find one cute KBG then I guess you going stay but usually the Kalihi KBGs are at least a 6-Pack Cute (or more to look younger). Some of them ajummas put plenty bondo and stage makeup so they appear less scary.

No worry if you guzzle and buy neko plenty because we just going scold you later.LOL, don't majority if not all BGs do that. I seen this one BG at 24 without her makeup and never even know was her! Seeing some of these girls without makeup kinda like KISS when they decided to "unmask". After seeing them sans makeup, you wish you never saw them without it and wish they put it back on PRONTO! On the plus side, after seeing these BGs unmasked; it makes you hesitant to spend any money on them. Just knowing how scary they look without bondo and stage makeup.

Captin Crunch
07-19-12, 18:41
Never got the pm. I guess someones don't want me to go. LOL.

Oldee
07-19-12, 20:39
Never got the pm. I guess someones don't want me to go. LOL.Since you a Founding Member of Color / FM and veteran of every one. BTW, that ego stroking will cost you 1 beer, LOL. Also, regarding NFM, it depends how many guys like buy me beer, LOL. Nah, nah, only joke. We WILL be HUNTING after 7 and just getting warmed up! A tour by Aloha KB Tours will be provided free of charge for this event at various KBs. You don't want to miss out as we point out the robs and playgirls at various establishments. We MAY also hit Town if we not too drunk too. Keep looking out for live reports or PM the FM sukebe guy nearest you for info. Lurkers and you AMP guys, no shame PM and ask for info if you like go.

Hawaii Raven
07-20-12, 14:54
Ah damn. Have fun again all you guys. Bad timing for me as usual. The Raven & his flock all arrive on Oahu late Monday night. Hope we all have fun. Give them KB's something to talk about!

Kapakahi
07-20-12, 15:33
Will be taking a KRAP this early eve to the desinated FM sites; haven't been to Cleo since it was Club Formosa and want to check the timing for the mobbing. Will also try to squeeze in another potential site if time permits. I not one tough guzzler like you guys so three places in 1-1/2 hrs. Is maybe too much for me. Anyway, we'll see.

Uki Eater
07-20-12, 17:37
Even if the BG looks good, Is she fun though? A BG may look good but, if she boring, no sense. The FM crew is more of an enticement to want to go to the bar. At least with the FM, they won't ROB you and you gain info / knowledge that you can personally benefit from.

With the BGs these days, it's the opposite. They're the ones benefitting from the customers by gaining money, info and even entertaininment. What do the customers gain? Not really much when you look at it. The BGs don't really do / offer much these days to make it worth it. Right girls? LOL. I'm teasing.

The bars should be happy / thankful with the FM thing. It draws a crowd to go bar. As a result, customers be buying drinks and spending. Heck, FM can even entice and motivate guys who never been to a bar before to go bar. They'll be less intimadated to go when they're are among guys who know about the KB scene.

Oldee
07-20-12, 20:49
Ah damn. Have fun again all you guys. Bad timing for me as usual. The Raven & his flock all arrive on Oahu late Monday night. Hope we all have fun. Give them KB's something to talk about!We got to plan FM around your guy's schedules when you come here. Trading notes / intel is the real fun of FM BTW. Having said that, weekdays are good hunting days at K and Vbars.

Oldee
07-20-12, 20:57
Even if the BG looks good, Is she fun though? A BG may look good but, if she boring, no sense. The FM crew is more of an enticement to want to go to the bar. At least with the FM, they won't ROB you and you gain info / knowledge that you can personally benefit from.

With the BGs these days, it's the opposite. They're the ones benefitting from the customers by gaining money, info and even entertaininment. What do the customers gain? Not really much when you look at it. The BGs don't really do / offer much these days to make it worth it. Right girls? LOL. I'm teasing.

The bars should be happy / thankful with the FM thing. It draws a crowd to go bar. As a result, customers be buying drinks and spending. Heck, FM can even entice and motivate guys who never been to a bar before to go bar. They'll be less intimadated to go when they're are among guys who know about the KB scene.You will not get robbed going FM and its FUN! KBs are worried about FMs BTW. They don't want LVBs to know what is said here. In other words, they want to HIDE THE TRUTH. IE: LVB that goes FM for first time sees his DKBG and gets the intel on her."I'm not special to her?" Yup, and not only that, us sukebe guys get more action from her than you too, LOL.

Uki Eater
07-20-12, 23:06
They don't want LVBs to know what is said here. In other words, they want to HIDE THE TRUTH. IE: LVB that goes FM for first time sees his DKBG and gets the intel on her."I'm not special to her?" Yup, and not only that, us sukebe guys get more action from her than you too, LOL.Yup. It's basically this.

"No! What are you guys doing? We're not going to be able to sucker customers as easily if they know the truth. Shit! *sigh*"

LOL.

These BGs can create new lies, tricks, games etc. But, if you can think deep (think beyond the surface) and see things at a greater level, you'll pickup on it quickly.

The women tend to have their way with men because they can think deeper than most men that most of them don't see / read the signs. Plus, they cover it up / brush it away by using their cuteness, sweet talking and physical touch to distract him so that he doesn't further thinks / question her.

Hawaii Raven
07-20-12, 23:30
Oh really? What K and VB is good to hunt at on the weekdays? Mostly around the Ala Moana / WalMart area?


We got to plan FM around your guy's schedules when you come here. Trading notes / intel is the real fun of FM BTW. Having said that, weekdays are good hunting days at K and Vbars.

Oldee
07-20-12, 23:43
Oh really? What K and VB is good to hunt at on the weekdays? Mostly around the Ala Moana / WalMart area?Got lot of choices, especially if you go both k and vbars. Second shift increase odds too.

Hawaii Raven
07-21-12, 00:15
Yup we will go to both. No matter to us. Got any favorites Oldee?


Got lot of choices, especially if you go both k and vbars. Second shift increase odds too.

Oldee
07-21-12, 01:05
Yup we will go to both. No matter to us. Got any favorites Oldee?The lineup at both K and vbars can change day to day so best to check all over. Good thing at least 20bars all walking distance from each other. BTW, don't tell them you from Maui. Will recommend bars later.

H Mobius
07-21-12, 20:28
Oldee, you guys didn't Flash Mob Pin Thai Massage today huh? I haven't been in an AMP that was standing room only in years, and this is a legit Thai place.

Usually I can just walk-in to a place like that; luckily today I just happened to have made an appointment.

Gross part was, the dudes were in towels already when I was leaving.

Oldee
07-21-12, 20:51
Oldee, you guys didn't Flash Mob Pin Thai Massage today huh? I haven't been in an AMP that was standing room only in years, and this is a legit Thai place.

Usually I can just walk-in to a place like that; luckily today I just happened to have made an appointment.

Gross part was, the dudes were in towels already when I was leaving.You guys need to organize one AMP FM, LOL. Maybe they give discount that way, haha. Mobi bro, your inbox was full.

H Mobius
07-21-12, 21:00
You guys need to organize one AMP FM, LOL. Maybe they give discount that way, haha. Mobi bro, your inbox was full.Sorry, made space. Many PMs are interesting and I've had some fun convos. Oldee is correct; lurkers should participate in the Forum.

AMP-FM, interesting. One place got blasted with an army of guys years ago; the effect was ms went apeshit trying to accomodate everyone.

More recently, Kison (which can only handle like 4 customers at a time) encountered a small group of tourists. Chanel merely turned them away, no sweat for her.

So I guess the effect would depend on the particular place and the person in charge. A slow sheddy place might be happy to fill their rooms and tell the overflow to come back in 45 minutes.

Captin Crunch
07-22-12, 00:24
Next stop will be waikamilo shopping center. Not sure which bar yet. Either green tea or sakura gin

Captin Crunch
07-22-12, 01:45
Next stop will be waikamilo shopping center. Not sure which bar yet. Either green tea or sakura ginWe are at Sakura Gin.

CheapCharlie
07-22-12, 02:35
I was going to FM tonight, but had lots of things that I had to do this afternoon. Was going back and forth about whether or not to go. But decided to stay in tonight, sorry Oldee; was looking forward to getting some advice and tips from you.

Captin Crunch
07-22-12, 02:35
We are at Sakura Gin.Where is everyone? I getting drunk. My 9; th beer.

Oldee
07-22-12, 17:15
I was going to FM tonight, but had lots of things that I had to do this afternoon. Was going back and forth about whether or not to go. But decided to stay in tonight, sorry Oldee; was looking forward to getting some advice and tips from you.Next time. You DID miss out tho, LOL. Anyway, don't worry, personal stuff always come first, not the bars.

Honolulu Yobo
07-22-12, 23:19
LOL, don't majority if not all BGs do that. I seen this one BG at 24 without her makeup and never even know was her! Seeing some of these girls without makeup kinda like KISS when they decided to "unmask". After seeing them sans makeup, you wish you never saw them without it and wish they put it back on PRONTO! On the plus side, after seeing these BGs unmasked; it makes you hesitant to spend any money on them. Just knowing how scary they look without bondo and stage makeup.How about having a contest for the best undercover paparazzi photo of a KBG without makeup. Entrants need to identify the KBG and where she works.

Prizes include: drinks paid for by the FM'ers at the KBG's workplace to the winner of the contest, and a couple of Neko's for the KBG.

Boyfriends of KBG's are not eligible to win.

This should be a fun contest, and no misrepresentations of the KBG's are allowed (no fake pictures).

Honolulu Yobo
07-22-12, 23:36
Next time. You DID miss out tho, LOL. Anyway, don't worry, personal stuff always come first, not the bars.Maybe you guy's can get together and tell the lurkers to buy a specific lapel pin; much like the American Flag our Congresspersons wear. Then they could be a little more discreet without giving away their identity by wearing colored shirts.

Oldee
07-22-12, 23:44
How about having a contest for the best undercover paparazzi photo of a KBG without makeup. Entrants need to identify the KBG and where she works.

Prizes include: drinks paid for by the FM'ers at the KBG's workplace to the winner of the contest, and a couple of Neko's for the KBG.

Boyfriends of KBG's are not eligible to win.

This should be a fun contest, and no misrepresentations of the KBG's are allowed (no fake pictures).I volunteer to be a judge. Please note that I'm bribable with beer, LOL.

Oldee
07-23-12, 00:27
OK, I'm kind of sober now. Being that it was a day FM, we didn't have a lot of guys show early since most of us KB guys are night goers. Cleo was semi busy when I arrived. Litle after 5pm. Ivy the massuer bartender is nice and got nice bolt ons but she and ALL KBGs at Cleo do not play. Kimberly mama was taking care her regs and a few KBGs were waiting for LVBs to appear and didn't bother us guys at the bar. Got to love 2dolla beer daytime, hehe. For Kalihi, this is a LVB bar. I was looking for the guys that PMd me about FM info but don't think they showed. Oh well, that was ok, as its been ages since I experienced the Kalihi day KB scene. We next went to CS and seen Michelle the BBBJ queen outside but wasnt there for her. The fat bartendress was junk and never offered me chips because I no rate like MM. Vapor joined us but was quiet and shame at first, LOL. Cool guy! Cindy came talk to us little bit but had to go next bar. Sakura was the next bar where Kapa shared some of his wisdom and got us some ono pupus. Myrna served us but decided to pasws on trying to play with her cause the boys was more interesting. During our FM, some guys were PMing for info but see them till later, sorry. After keeping Kapa past his curfew and Vapor having to take care his friend's stuff, we went G tea. The girl MM sat with was the only hot one there. A nice greeting hug felt like she get a nice C rack. MM had to leave because he had to work early in the morning so I went town which was a blur and I forget where and what I did, LOL. I should have planned a night FM but was lazy, hehe. Thank you guys that did go bros. If you went late or as lurkers, thank you guys too. MANY people are interested in our FMs including KBGs. It seems that the cool and close to normal guys are the FM guys. Hey, CC, would have set you up at Sakura or Gtea but next time, LOL.

Vapor909
07-23-12, 16:05
OK, I'm kind of sober now. Being that it was a day FM, we didn't have a lot of guys show early since most of us KB guys are night goers. Cleo was semi busy when I arrived. Litle after 5pm. Ivy the massuer bartender is nice and got nice bolt ons but she and ALL KBGs at Cleo do not play. Kimberly mama was taking care her regs and a few KBGs were waiting for LVBs to appear and didn't bother us guys at the bar. Got to love 2dolla beer daytime, hehe. For Kalihi, this is a LVB bar. I was looking for the guys that PMd me about FM info but don't think they showed. Oh well, that was ok, as its been ages since I experienced the Kalihi day KB scene. We next went to CS and seen Michelle the BBBJ queen outside but wasnt there for her. The fat bartendress was junk and never offered me chips because I no rate like MM. Vapor joined us but was quiet and shame at first, LOL. Cool guy! Cindy came talk to us little bit but had to go next bar. Sakura was the next bar where Kapa shared some of his wisdom and got us some ono pupus. Myrna served us but decided to pasws on trying to play with her cause the boys was more interesting. During our FM, some guys were PMing for info but see them till later, sorry. After keeping Kapa past his curfew and Vapor having to take care his friend's stuff, we went G tea. The girl MM sat with was the only hot one there. A nice greeting hug felt like she get a nice C rack. MM had to leave because he had to work early in the morning so I went town which was a blur and I forget where and what I did, LOL. I should have planned a night FM but was lazy, hehe. Thank you guys that did go bros. If you went late or as lurkers, thank you guys too. MANY people are interested in our FMs including KBGs. It seems that the cool and close to normal guys are the FM guys. Hey, CC, would have set you up at Sakura or Gtea but next time, LOL.It was great to meet Kapa, MM and Oldee, great bunch of guys who I have so much to learn from. The pupus were pretty ono at Sakura and I think we were lucky just to get a beer at CS, good thing MM had some status.

Sorry I had to run out early but everything turned out good in the end.

Oldee I tried to PM you back but was full.

Oldee
07-23-12, 22:25
We are learning more after each outing and there is a growing interest among bar goers. I know for sure we better have a night FM at least for the next one, LOL. I'll still try and support the day FM tho. Its actually quite interesting. For example, many KBGs are more apt to play in the slow day bar hours when its dead and noone around to bother you. MM is an expert at the daytime commando attack, LOL. I have yet to meet an FMer that wasnt a cool dude too. We all regular guys that just want to have fun but no like get ripped off or reward shitty service and attitude. You can also gain many years worth of experience and intel hanging out with thee bros instead of making the mistakes yourselves which cost you time and money. For example, Kapa and I had an interesting convo about after so many years in the bar, we can tell how the the KBG is almost instantly with one look at them. I'll leave that for another post tho. Yes, the KBGs can do the same with us for the most part, LOL. Then there's the intel! Who plays at what bar and how much etc. Who are the big robs and what kind rob games they play etc. There is valuable info to be gained at FMs. Someone told me recently that they think many guys like go but they SHAME. I'm not talking about LVBs but guys that read the forum but don't post. They may feel intimidated meeting a MM, Kapa or Uki for example, LOL. No need, we regular joes, LOL. Well maybe not ProFuksHer KaraUki, LOL. You can always remain anonymous and still have fun in that case. Hey bros, how about some suggestions for our next FM. Just remember this, FMs are ALWAYS FUN!

Oldee
07-23-12, 22:46
It was great to meet Kapa, MM and Oldee, great bunch of guys who I have so much to learn from. The pupus were pretty ono at Sakura and I think we were lucky just to get a beer at CS, good thing MM had some status.

Sorry I had to run out early but everything turned out good in the end.

Oldee I tried to PM you back but was full.You and I could have done some damage if I seen your PM that night. Main thing your friends got home safely. Were they in a Kamicraft? That boat can handle anything!

Oldee
07-26-12, 23:14
Ok bros, in keeping with this year's olympics, I think we should have our own KB OLYMPIC MARATHON where we go from 5pm till midnight and FM most if not all the bars in town. Maybe we can FM a couple VBs too, hehe. This way, we can combine the day and night shift and accomodate day as well as late going guys and you can join in according to your own schedules. Perhaps half hour each bar? I'm thinking next weekend or the following weekend? What do you guys think? It should be real good fun imo as well as being flexible. The day FMers can go a few bars and leave early and second shift guys can join in anytime during the night for example. So who's in and when you think we should go? Post or PM if you like go and suggestions bros. There's actually been about 15 guys thats already gone FMs not counting lurkers and if we all get of together one time, should be a blast. Eh Uki and B E, I not giving you a choice, I going drag you away from outside the AMPs and come your work place B E, LOL.

Oldee
07-27-12, 20:45
One of the bros recently told me about witnessing a pissed off LVB simply because she sat with him. Most LVBs don't make a scene with the KBG but this one did. After all, he figures he's her one and only love right? Sorry LVB, you need to learn the difference between number 1 ATM man (bar bf neko buyer) and true boyfriend. If you don't want her sitting with other guys and she does anyway because she wants to, don't go nuts because thats what you chose, a KBG! The sad reality is that she don't like you for you, she likes you for your money and whatever else you give and do for her. Still want to be her BF? If she really liked you, she would do what you wanted, period! For example, there is a LVG at Butts that is quite popular but will ditch many waiting LVBs wanting to splurge on her when she sees me (lucky or cursed) and I don't need to buy nekos at all. When a KBG REALLY likes you, there are unmistakeable signs and you will know. Tbe insecure LVBs are becoming more common these days and I've seen that kind of LVB MANY times. I always say CHOOSE WISELY and ESPECIALLY when it comes to making your DKBG your GF. So you jealous LVBs out there, wise up and go chase a nice non BG. Why go through all the drama, heartache and money wasted. Become a sukebe FMer and be happy, LOL.

Belot Eater
07-27-12, 22:23
Ok bros, in keeping with this year's olympics, I think we should have our own KB OLYMPIC MARATHON where we go from 5pm till midnight and FM most if not all the bars in town. Maybe we can FM a couple VBs too, hehe. This way, we can combine the day and night shift and accomodate day as well as late going guys and you can join in according to your own schedules. Perhaps half hour each bar? I'm thinking next weekend or the following weekend? What do you guys think? It should be real good fun imo as well as being flexible. The day FMers can go a few bars and leave early and second shift guys can join in anytime during the night for example. So who's in and when you think we should go? Post or PM if you like go and suggestions bros. There's actually been about 15 guys thats already gone FMs not counting lurkers and if we all get of together one time, should be a blast. Eh Uki and B E, I not giving you a choice, I going drag you away from outside the AMPs and come your work place B E, LOL.Sorry, I finish work after nine so by then it's too late.

TrueTemper
07-28-12, 00:42
Letting you Grand Master know why I going become a LVB. First never did have a girlfriend so I still one cherryboy, getting older and obese,

Self conscious if you call me fat. Never did talk to a pretty girl so the first time at the bar last week a pretty girl talked to me and I fell in.

Love. I don't care if I'm the tenth one in line I going wait. You guys alway want to hear about how the LVB thinking. I want to become a.

Grand Master but I cannot even hold my front stance.

Oldee
07-28-12, 00:46
Sorry, I finish work after nine so by then it's too late.We just getting warmed up at 9, plus its a marathon so we pau late. You no can escape bro.

Oldee
07-28-12, 12:43
Letting you Grand Master know why I going become a LVB. First never did have a girlfriend so I still one cherryboy, getting older and obese,

Self conscious if you call me fat. Never did talk to a pretty girl so the first time at the bar last week a pretty girl talked to me and I fell in.

Love. I don't care if I'm the tenth one in line I going wait. You guys alway want to hear about how the LVB thinking. I want to become a.

Grand Master but I cannot even hold my front stance.I hope you had a good time at the bar and we really want to hear what you think. BTW, there are no Grand Masters here, just lolo regular guys, LOL.

Booya Boiz
07-28-12, 14:56
Does Club Black Stallion and Yokohama ring a bell? Be careful my brothers.


One of the bros recently told me about witnessing a pissed off LVB simply because she sat with him. Most LVBs don't make a scene with the KBG but this one did. After all, he figures he's her one and only love right? Sorry LVB, you need to learn the difference between number 1 ATM man (bar bf neko buyer) and true boyfriend. If you don't want her sitting with other guys and she does anyway because she wants to, don't go nuts because thats what you chose, a KBG! The sad reality is that she don't like you for you, she likes you for your money and whatever else you give and do for her. Still want to be her BF? If she really liked you, she would do what you wanted, period! For example, there is a LVG at Butts that is quite popular but will ditch many waiting LVBs wanting to splurge on her when she sees me (lucky or cursed) and I don't need to buy nekos at all. When a KBG REALLY likes you, there are unmistakeable signs and you will know. Tbe insecure LVBs are becoming more common these days and I've seen that kind of LVB MANY times. I always say CHOOSE WISELY and ESPECIALLY when it comes to making your DKBG your GF. So you jealous LVBs out there, wise up and go chase a nice non BG. Why go through all the drama, heartache and money wasted. Become a sukebe FMer and be happy, LOL.

H Mobius
07-28-12, 15:12
So I went to Femme Nu since it's been years. Oldee immediately came to mind; wow, that place was "Loveland". The stages, which had like 8 girls each, were lined with "LVB"s.

I stood there staring in amazement. All the guys had that same dazed look in their eyes, and all the girls had that satisfied "I got both hooks in" look in theirs.

To each his own, but IMO "waiting" for a BG's "love" is like waiting at the Post Office on a windy rainy Sunday.

Billybongg
07-28-12, 15:29
So I went to Femme Nu since it's been years. Oldee immediately came to mind; wow, that place was "Loveland". The stages, which had like 8 girls each, were lined with "LVB"s.

I stood there staring in amazement. All the guys had that same dazed look in their eyes, and all the girls had that satisfied "I got both hooks in" look in theirs.

To each his own, but IMO "waiting" for a BG's "love" is like waiting outside the Post Office on a windy rainy Sunday, in the nude, in front of passing traffic.IDK when I'm sitting there I tend to get in the zone, I guess you can call it the LVB trance, LOL. But I like to think I'm being highly attentive & studious. Plus I feel I get more for my twenty than buying a lady drink on most occasions.

Honolulu Yobo
07-28-12, 16:28
Letting you Grand Master know why I going become a LVB. First never did have a girlfriend so I still one cherryboy, getting older and obese,

Self conscious if you call me fat. Never did talk to a pretty girl so the first time at the bar last week a pretty girl talked to me and I fell in.

Love. I don't care if I'm the tenth one in line I going wait. You guys alway want to hear about how the LVB thinking. I want to become a.

Grand Master but I cannot even hold my front stance.That is the best line to use in the bar, I never had a girlfriend and I never have been laid. Quiver and shake like you're nervous and excited as you tell the girl that, and see what kind of response you get. But, only tell it to the one that you really want to do it with.

I told my first Korean bar girlfriend that, and she made up her mind that she was going to take my cherry.

Everyone wants to take a virgin's cherry. LOL

Ocolumbo
07-28-12, 16:39
Letting you Grand Master know why I going become a LVB. First never did have a girlfriend so I still one cherryboy, getting older and obese,

Self conscious if you call me fat. Never did talk to a pretty girl so the first time at the bar last week a pretty girl talked to me and I fell in.

Love. I don't care if I'm the tenth one in line I going wait. You guys alway want to hear about how the LVB thinking. I want to become a.

Grand Master but I cannot even hold my front stance.Stop drinking and get out of the bar. If you need to lose your cherry then head over to Ward and Keemo to do it and do it quick. They don't care if you are fat as long as you pay. Then get off your ass and head to the gym and lose the fucking weight. Then you will have the confidence you have not had before.

Oldee
07-28-12, 17:31
So I went to Femme Nu since it's been years. Oldee immediately came to mind; wow, that place was "Loveland". The stages, which had like 8 girls each, were lined with "LVB"s.

I stood there staring in amazement. All the guys had that same dazed look in their eyes, and all the girls had that satisfied "I got both hooks in" look in theirs.

To each his own, but IMO "waiting" for a BG's "love" is like waiting at the Post Office on a windy rainy Sunday.No wonder Uki wears his Femme Nu shirt proudly at the bars, LOL. Just kidding bro.

Uki Eater
07-28-12, 17:41
No wonder Uki wears his Femme Nu shirt proudly at the bars, LOL. Just kidding bro.Damn. I guess I'll never be wearing that shirt ever again. Oh my gawd!

Oldee
07-28-12, 18:21
Damn. I guess I'll never be wearing that shirt ever again. Oh my gawd!I going bar wearing that shirt and say I'm a LVB cherryman. No can say boy, I too old. What, you think going work H Yobo?

Honolulu Yobo
07-28-12, 20:24
I going bar wearing that shirt and say I'm a LVB cherryman. No can say boy, I too old. What, you think going work H Yobo?They going ask, what part of you cherry?

TrueTemper
07-28-12, 21:12
I hope you had a good time at the bar and we really want to hear what you think. BTW, there are no Grand Masters here, just lolo regular guys, LOL.To let you guys know, I bought my first drink to a ugly KBG She stayed with me for two minutes. I got beaten will bad and I was sitting at the bar. Thinking how can I better myself and learn the business. Found this site, telling you sukebe's thank you and I just lucky to found this site. My first question is buying the neko's at the bar or take to the booth?

Oldee
07-29-12, 02:02
To let you guys know, I bought my first drink to a ugly KBG She stayed with me for two minutes. I got beaten will bad and I was sitting at the bar. Thinking how can I better myself and learn the business. Found this site, telling you sukebe's thank you and I just lucky to found this site. My first question is buying the neko's at the bar or take to the booth?You read at least 30 pages of this thread starting from the beginning. If you no like do that then I suggest you take the ALOHA KB TOURS. Maybe you playing a prank on us guys but thanks for the question! Are you really our first true blue LVB? LOL.

H Mobius
07-29-12, 02:03
My first question is buying the neko's at the bar or take to the booth?Back when hostesses were more 'motivated', I used to test them at the bar counter first by trying to interact with them to see what a particular girl was like; sometimes it led to a first drink. Based on how things went with that first drink, we may or may not have moved to a table.

More recently, I find that a good percentage of them are sheddy (or as Oldee refers to them, 'Princessy'). So, I sometimes tend to cut to the chase and just start out at a table to test-run with that first drink. Sort of like skipping the Dyno and just getting the car on the track.

Uki Eater
07-29-12, 02:09
Maybe you playing a prank on us guys but thanks for the question! Are you really our first true blue LVB? LOL.Oldee, that's the impression I got to. Hehe.

Honolulu Yobo
07-29-12, 03:32
You read at least 30 pages of this thread starting from the beginning. If you no like do that then I suggest you take the ALOHA KB TOURS. Maybe you playing a prank on us guys but thanks for the question! Are you really our first true blue LVB? LOL.Oldee, he's looking to be someones wingman. How much beer will it take?

Tell him to join the KB Flashmob. LOL

Oldee
07-29-12, 03:47
Oldee, he's looking to be someones wingman. How much beer will it take?

Tell him to join the KB Flashmob. LOLTrust me, thats CHEAP! LOL. A LVB wen just drop big bucks just to get rid of me, lol. All the while, i get the play by play and free drinks, lol. Thanks LVBs!

Kapakahi
07-29-12, 14:48
Maybe you playing a prank on us guys but thanks for the question!I smelleth a KBG or LVB Spy in TT; maybe even a golfer who has KB / KBG ties. Hey, TT, come to the next FM to show your sincerity and we'll gladly greet, accommodate your requests (within reason) , and protect your identity. Perhaps a question for your shaft flex at this time is: Stiff? Regular? Senior? Nah, see you at the next FM!

Belot Eater
07-29-12, 19:24
All the guys had that same dazed look in their eyes.Daze eyes? Explain, I might have that kind eye.

Oldee
07-30-12, 01:48
Daze eyes? Explain, I might have that kind eye.When you go FMs, we train you to get SUKEBE EYE, which will save you a lot of money and you will have more FUN!

Oldee
07-30-12, 01:59
Hey Kapa, can you plan the DFM for this coming Friday? I was thinking of having a night FM too. I notice its not as fun at the bars without FM to look forward to and this past weekend was not so exciting as it could have been. Maybe its too last minute but maybe some of you bros may want to go. So guys, PM or post if you like go.

Kapakahi
07-30-12, 02:31
I was thinking of having a night FM too. I notice its not as fun at the bars without FM to look forward to and this past weekend was not so exciting as it could have been.Friday DFM going be for the pauhana-minded folks who like take the edge off work, kaukau (mogo) a little, busy on Saturdays, and like go home early kine. Please post or PM if attending; regular FMers auto send via PM.

And then for the guys who never get enough yet or finish work later, can go and continue on Oldee's NFM. Having both FMs good for flexibility and to give the DFM / NFM KBGs the sukebe eyes (the look of 'labbu'). TT and other newcomers always welcome as the first round's on youse guys! Nah, nah! We all share and have fun. Oldee, suggest we have a DFM / NFM transition KB; in other words, turn day into night at the same place. Anyway, will contact soon via post, PM.

Shipshape
07-30-12, 04:03
Hey Kapa, can you plan the DFM for this coming Friday? I was thinking of having a night FM too. I notice its not as fun at the bars without FM to look forward to and this past weekend was not so exciting as it could have been. Maybe its too last minute but maybe some of you bros may want to go. So guys, PM or post if you like go.I always start so late that I can rarely make the first fm target bar so I was thinking maybe a color flash mob may help to help us late guys catch up or at least I could spot where the fm is. Been thinking that twitter might be useful as well although I really hate the "social-media" thing. So some guy signs up to be a twit and then we all can see the twirps, is that how it works? LOL.

Ss

H Mobius
07-30-12, 04:05
Daze eyes? Explain, I might have that kind eye.Best way is to go look. Was unreal, way more pronounced than anything I have even seen in a hostess bar. Basically could tell those guys were heavy-into their DGs (Dream Girls). Can't blame them; they buss ass all week and those girls were pretty good-looking.

One k-girl in a booth was Top Grade, meaning with her body, beauty, looks and overall hotness she would do well anywhere such as VIP, the 3+1-plex, or the old Mayflower and blow everyone at Ichiban out of the water. She would be wasted at lower-echelon places like King Massage or Green Rose. Put another way, she could easily command 300 as her indie CFS rate.

As with getting ROBed, having a dazed look eventually happens if you do this long enough or actually for any length of time depending where you go.

When I was younger I've been ROBed blind and had that look. Now I have the Oldee Sukebe Eye. It is the bar equivalent of Shark Repellent.

Uki Eater
07-30-12, 04:33
Best way is to go look. Was unreal, way more pronounced than anything I have even seen in a hostess bar. Basically could tell those guys were heavy-into their DGs (Dream Girls). Can't blame them; they buss ass all week and those girls were pretty good-looking.

One k-girl in a booth was Top Grade, meaning with her body, beauty, looks and overall hotness she would do well anywhere such as VIP, the 3+1-plex, or the old Mayflower and blow everyone at Ichiban out of the water. She would be wasted at lower-echelon places like King Massage or Green Rose. Put another way, she could easily command 300 as her indie CFS rate.

As with getting ROBed, having a dazed look eventually happens if you do this long enough or actually for any length of time depending where you go.

When I was younger I've been ROBed blind and had that look. Now I have the Oldee Sukebe Eye. It is the bar equivalent of Shark Repellent.Mobius are you talking about FN? I'm wondering if you're referring to that dancer Chyna? She's Korean from LA. She's been at FN for several years already. I been to FN like 3 weeks ago and I still see a few that are still working at FN.

H Mobius
07-30-12, 04:45
Mobius are you talking about FN? I'm wondering if you're referring to that dancer Chyna? She's Korean from LA. She's been at FN for several years already. I been to FN like 3 weeks ago and I still see a few that are still working at FN.Yes.

I don't know anyone there, it's been years since I last went.

Captin Crunch
07-30-12, 16:10
Hey Kapa, can you plan the DFM for this coming Friday? I was thinking of having a night FM too. I notice its not as fun at the bars without FM to look forward to and this past weekend was not so exciting as it could have been. Maybe its too last minute but maybe some of you bros may want to go. So guys, PM or post if you like go.Kapa, is it on for this Friday dfm?

TrueTemper
07-30-12, 18:57
I smelleth a KBG or LVB Spy in TT; maybe even a golfer who has KB / KBG ties. Hey, TT, come to the next FM to show your sincerity and we'll gladly greet, accommodate your requests (within reason) , and protect your identity. Perhaps a question for your shaft flex at this time is: Stiff? Regular? Senior? Nah, see you at the next FM!Getting to learn slowly, and not a KBG or a SPY, but can see why perceived that way. I'm new and out of the forest looking in. But cannot become a LVB because not.

At the bars alot and got no ammo.

Oldee
07-30-12, 20:17
Stop drinking and get out of the bar. If you need to lose your cherry then head over to Ward and Keemo to do it and do it quick. They don't care if you are fat as long as you pay. Then get off your ass and head to the gym and lose the fucking weight. Then you will have the confidence you have not had before.That's pretty good advice imo for TT. Hostess bars are not for the weak minded or those who cannot stand up for themselves and say no. I'm actually surprised you never became a fan of hostess bars since you are an outspoken monger regarding many things even tho you said you would have been a hopeless LVB. You don't lack confidence or discipline either. BTW, just to let you know, a good percentage of bar goers don't really drink alcohol at hostess bars and that's both sukebe guys and LVBs these days.

Oldee
07-30-12, 20:21
IDK when I'm sitting there I tend to get in the zone, I guess you can call it the LVB trance, LOL. But I like to think I'm being highly attentive & studious. Plus I feel I get more for my twenty than buying a lady drink on most occasions.I havnt been to a SB in years also, probably at least 10 years. What do you get for your 20 these days? Just curious, hehe.

Oldee
07-30-12, 20:37
I always start so late that I can rarely make the first fm target bar so I was thinking maybe a color flash mob may help to help us late guys catch up or at least I could spot where the fm is. Been thinking that twitter might be useful as well although I really hate the "social-media" thing. So some guy signs up to be a twit and then we all can see the twirps, is that how it works? LOL.

SsI'll let Kapa plan the DFM and start the NFM at 9pm till midnight or so. Hope that's ok with you Kapa. After I get the DFM schedule from Kapa, I can plan the NFM plans and times / locations for what bars we going. We can also have live reports (hopefully) , letting guys know where we at during that day / evening should they not have gotten the PM schedules. We've had green, yellow, blue and flower themes so I figure how about biege or brown for this Friday? As usual, wearing the theme color is optional. No shame PM too as a lot of us will be checking our phones that night. Let's go bros!

TrueTemper
07-30-12, 23:12
He buggah stay kakaroach my posts. Mus be my one finga poi too sour for the ohana. No ono fo the kine masses. Waste my time write, poho. The lurkers no say they like read what I write, so my mouse ma'ke. Get plans in the works. PM me if you the last post. ILTW.I second that motion.

TrueTemper
07-30-12, 23:24
I did not know my "fredom of Information" could be breached.

Belot Eater
07-31-12, 00:38
I think I saw Kapakahi post it and the timing looks good so I want to go. I finish my job on 4:30 or 5 so I think I can make it. As for Saturday, I think I seen to much Oldee for one week. Haha! Nah I might go on Saturday but I'm not drinking that blue bottle again. I had a fucken headache on Sunday.

Kapakahi
07-31-12, 01:16
Kapa, is it on for this Friday dfm?The DFM plan is for this Friday. The theme is Pauhana ('after work' for you malahines [newcomers]) DFM. See the KB Reports thread for the brief desc. ; color is per Oldee's request. See you guys in brown / beige this Friday. The FM list of PM requests is getting larger!

Oldee
07-31-12, 01:28
I did not know my "fredom of Information" could be breached.Sorry TT but I have no idea what you mean. Please explain.

Oldee
07-31-12, 01:44
Getting to learn slowly, and not a KBG or a SPY, but can see why perceived that way. I'm new and out of the forest looking in. But cannot become a LVB because not.

At the bars alot and got no ammo.You do not need to spend a lot at KBs. Just take it slow and read as much as you can. Do not buy neko for KBGs until you learn more.

Kapakahi
07-31-12, 03:25
After I get the DFM schedule from Kapa, I can plan the NFM plans and times / locations for what bars we going.The tentative Pauhana DFM start time will (unfortunately for the NFMers) be approximately 4-5P; Kapiolani area. That may be a problem for the sukebe-eyed, blue bottle-drinking, night owls. If you one young buck (<50 yo) or 'conditioned' then 4-11P is prime for socializing. Schedule TBA sometime Wednesday.

Ocolumbo
07-31-12, 04:41
That's pretty good advice imo for TT. Hostess bars are not for the weak minded or those who cannot stand up for themselves and say no. I'm actually surprised you never became a fan of hostess bars since you are an outspoken monger regarding many things even tho you said you would have been a hopeless LVB. You don't lack confidence or discipline either. BTW, just to let you know, a good percentage of bar goers don't really drink alcohol at hostess bars and that's both sukebe guys and LVBs these days.If I had confidence and discipline I would have been a different man. LOL. I really have liked to drink. But never at the hostess bars due to the cost. Liked to drink so much that I did it even as it aggravated preexisting medical problems. But now that I have been lifting at the gym the last couple of years, my system does not want the booze like before.

Kapakahi
07-31-12, 11:19
Getting to learn slowly, and not a KBG or a SPY, but can see why perceived that way. I'm new and out of the forest looking in. But cannot become a LVB because not at the bars alot and got no ammo.Then you're a perfect candidate for FMs! Like learn, look, drink, eat, talk story, get $20, and be one mobber. The mob PM list has expanded to twenty-one pax; the KBGs getting sour face, too!

Oldee, this is getting to be a hot potato. The KBGs like identify us with prejudice (especially you, LOL!)!

TrueTemper
07-31-12, 18:23
You do not need to spend a lot at KBs. Just take it slow and read as much as you can. Do not buy neko for KBGs until you learn more.Adachi's all been great to me. But my finga in the same poi as ILTW.

Belot Eater
07-31-12, 20:53
Getting to learn slowly, and not a KBG or a SPY, but can see why perceived that way. I'm new and out of the forest looking in. But cannot become a LVB because not.

At the bars alot and got no ammo.Meet me at DFM and I give you a 20 for spend on your drinks.

Belot Eater
07-31-12, 21:12
Hopefully I be out for NFM, if you guys or girls got balls to come I thow you to Oldee and you can keep him busy while I'll be a lvb. HAHA!

Oldee
07-31-12, 22:53
Haha, I know Uki's eyes getting big ah? First, if you want to know where they are, come to the FM. Sorry you horny lurkers. Lets discuss play girl types. There are a few after all. The first type of playgirl is the true pay for play girl. You buy nekos, they play. They don't care what you look like, just how much you willing to spend. They usually even have set prices depending on what want. Kools and Blue Sea ladies are examples of these types. Unfortunatey, in most cases, they old, ugly or both, LOL. The second type of playgirls are teaser / rob types. These girls are good with the come ons and promises of hot action, but most times its more spending than action. Examples of these kind of girls are at Camelot and EG. Not so good bang for your buck. The third type of playgirls are the when buzzed playgirl. Some of them are hot and some even young. I like this type the best because LVBs do the hard work for me, LOL. Second shift ring a bell? LOL. A lot of these girls often go for the take out option. The fourth type of playgirl is the she wants a relationship with you playgirl. This is the most dangerous type. You might not even be the only one as she often has other "boyfriends" hidden. Yes, you will probably get sex but it will cost you in the many thousands of dollars, there's been a few cases even millions! (not exagerating as Kapa can tell you). When she takes you shopping, you will know you have chosen this type, LOL. I'm sure there are other playgirl types but these are the basic ones. Want to know more and who these playgirls are and what bars they work? Come to the FM.

Oldee
08-01-12, 01:51
Adachi's all been great to me. But my finga in the same poi as ILTW.Can you PLEASE explain instead of having us solve your riddles? ILTW was my posting buddy and I don't think you eating the same poi. He gave info. Tell us what you want so we can help you.

Kapakahi
08-01-12, 02:51
Pauhana DFM sites and times have been sent via PMs (JRoss, your PM bin is full). See you gentlemen there!

Oldee
08-01-12, 03:17
Meet me at DFM and I give you a 20 for spend on your drinks.I won't bodda you and will let you play LVB until the 20 run out. No? How about 10 fo me and 10 fo TT den? Daytime drinks cheap you know, LOL.

Captin Crunch
08-01-12, 03:34
I won't bodda you and will let you play LVB until the 20 run out. No? How about 10 fo me and 10 fo TT den? Daytime drinks cheap you know, LOL.You think I can bring 20 for dfm and 20 for nfm I will have fun? Thats all I like spend that day / night.

Oldee
08-01-12, 04:21
You think I can bring 20 for dfm and 20 for nfm I will have fun? Thats all I like spend that day / night.Even if you drink a lot like I know you do. 2 bucks daytime beer cheap! Some places going give us free beer too! Shhhh. No tell B E, otherwise he no going give me 10.

Belot Eater
08-01-12, 18:29
I won't bodda you and will let you play LVB until the 20 run out. No? How about 10 fo me and 10 fo TT den? Daytime drinks cheap you know, LOL.Well we see if TrueTemper is a spy or kbg cause I'm willing to drop 20 for his drinks. Oh, I read about the free drinks so you no need 10. LOL!

Oldee
08-07-12, 23:35
I don't know if its going to be the following week or later but I'd like to change the format a bit and have a playgirl hunting night FM and related games. For this one, we won't give out the info to just anyone as we have a pretty good list of FMers already. In other words, don't ask for the info unless you going. Questions ok tho. So who wants to go? PM or post.

Kapakahi
08-11-12, 11:46
For this one, we won't give out the info to just anyone as we have a pretty good list of FMers already. In other words, don't ask for the info unless you going.What about a Best Pic FM? No show the face; just the assets, unless the KBGs like market or promo themselves. Can have categories such as (but not limited to) : Best and Worst. We could have fun showing some of the outrageous looks these KBGs have (and do to themselves) for attract attention. Just one suggestion as I'm sure get plenty Peeping Pauls and voyeurs out there, male and female.

No show faces as privacy prevails unless you find the idiot Poly criminal who did the battery on the Ellie's manager. The punkass should be well-known amongst his peers, family, and co-workers because this type of savage behavior just didn't happen overnight. Turn this sick guy in before he does anymore or worse assaults, even murder.

Warriors808
08-11-12, 16:38
What about a Best Pic FM? No show the face; just the assets, unless the KBGs like market or promo themselves. Can have categories such as (but not limited to) : Best and Worst. We could have fun showing some of the outrageous looks these KBGs have (and do to themselves) for attract attention. Just one suggestion as I'm sure get plenty Peeping Pauls and voyeurs out there, male and female.

No show faces as privacy prevails unless you find the idiot Poly criminal who did the battery on the Ellie's manager. The punkass should be well-known amongst his peers, family, and co-workers because this type of savage behavior just didn't happen overnight. Turn this sick guy in before he does anymore or worse assaults, even murder.Heard through the KB wirless that the security (bouncer) that works at EG on Fri. & Sat. Nights is an acquaintance of the suspect. Also my other question is how much info. Does EG mama (Maya) know. Why are there bouncers at her business and how did she know them? I have never seen them at KB's before in all my years.

Oldee
08-11-12, 16:48
Heard through the KB wirless that the security (bouncer) that works at EG on Fri. & Sat. Nights is an acquaintance of the suspect. Also my other question is how much info. Does EG mama (Maya) know. Why are there bouncers at her business and how did she know them? I have never seen them at KB's before in all my years.I'm sure Maya wouldn't help catch the guy if she knew anything which I think she does. Strange how the guy neva get caught yet.

Kapakahi
08-11-12, 17:49
Strange how the guy neva get caught yet.Must get plenty info on this guy because of his fingerprint personality: volatile and violent. But it takes time to review and confirm whatever potential evidence is available without any leads. Witholding critical info in a criminal case is also punishable by law and subject to civil penalities. That why people get scared and squeal on each other. If Crime Stoppers offered one $1 reward, I bet you 10, 000 callers would turn in any Tom, Dick, and Harry they could! LOL!

Might have dayshift bartender shakeup at Ellie's. Main thing leave the T-F crew intact, IMO.

H Mobius
08-11-12, 18:30
Heard through the KB wirless that the security (bouncer) that works at EG on Fri. & Sat. Nights is an acquaintance of the suspect. Also my other question is how much info. Does EG mama (Maya) know. Why are there bouncers at her business and how did she know them? I have never seen them at KB's before in all my years.Yup. Seems the bouncer was there since after they had fights break out amongst outsider girls. Like many ms's and BGs, Maya probably didn't know the bouncer directly, but certainly has well-connected friends outside the bar or even just customers she can turn to when she needs 'help', who do have such 'contacts'.

Kapakahi
08-11-12, 19:55
Heard through the KB wirless that the security (bouncer) that works at EG on Fri. & Sat. Nights is an acquaintance of the suspect.Is security at EG one Poly guy? If so, another Poly guy committing crimes in the same area? Ddduuuhhh? All tribes need more than one paddler for operate the big canoe. One plus one equals?

Oldee
08-11-12, 20:57
What about a Best Pic FM? No show the face; just the assets, unless the KBGs like market or promo .I no mo smart phone, only get stupid phone. Plus I have no idea how to post pics if I did. B E would win garans too. I suggest he just be our FM news photograher but we got to screen what pics to post.

Belot Eater
08-12-12, 15:15
I no mo smart phone, only get stupid phone. Plus I have no idea how to post pics if I did. B E would win garans too. I suggest he just be our FM news photograher but we got to screen what pics to post.You can use my Galaxy 2 tablet, if not I buy you a prepaid smart phone. You be like a kid with a new toy snapping pic's at everything. LOL!

Oldee
08-12-12, 23:22
Haha, I bet some of you was scared ah? Some of you may think that FM guys are very seasoned veterans of hostess bars and while some are, the typical FM guy is just a fun loving regular bro. We just like to trade notes. Make fun of KBGs, sing KaraUki. And drink beer. We ALL STUPID, LOL. Everyone I met so far are cool guys that willing to share by posting thier experiences so we all benefit. I'm happy that more and more guys like go these days but would be so cool if we could all get together at once. I guarantee you the KBs would be scared shitless and they would change thier ways. There are some stealth and shame meet other guys FMers too which is cool but I wish there were more of you guys. Then would be even easier to be stealth. I feel sorry for guys who don't get to hear what we talk about because so good fun and useful info too. Nobody is an expert including me but pieces of info put together often lead to completing puzzles. KBGs ALL share info and intel. We can understand hiding your favorite playgirls but there's other info you can share. Robs and losers for example. I know its cliche to say we can do great things with a united front but its true. Never forget when everything is said done who we REALLY are. WE are CUSTOMERS!

Captin Crunch
08-13-12, 01:32
One discussion I had with Oldee and Vapor, Oldee said I should share my tactics with you all. I don't know where he thinks I get game. In fact, I don't have game. It's just years of mongering, stupidity, and spending choke money. Ever since I met Kapa, I think he has game. He told us he hasn't bought a neko in over 3 years. I first think this guy only bs us, but it seems and looks true. I like be almost like him. I cannot cold turkey and no buy like him. Thats my new game Oldee.

Oldee
08-13-12, 02:18
One discussion I had with Oldee and Vapor, Oldee said I should share my tactics with you all. I don't know where he thinks I get game. In fact, I don't have game. It's just years of mongering, stupidity, and spending choke money. Ever since I met Kapa, I think he has game. He told us he hasn't bought a neko in over 3 years. I first think this guy only bs us, but it seems and looks true. I like be almost like him. I cannot cold turkey and no buy like him. Thats my new game Oldee.I'm sure a lot of guys can relate. Plus you know more than you think you know. For example, spotting the robs and losers before you waste money.

Kapakahi
08-13-12, 02:18
He told us he hasn't bought a neko in over 3 years. I first think this guy only bs us, but it seems and looks true.February 7, 2013, going be four years without buying one neko. Please feel free to ask any K / V/CBG we meet if they have witnessed me buying a neko (hehehe, they going laugh, choke, and drown in their own spit). Of course, anything could happen and nothing is permanent. But I now find neko-buying is not meant for me; everybody can do what they want without any judgment from me. I'm nobody and certainly not perfect.

I think it would be fun finding the Filipinas; CS and 904 within walking distance. BTW, that bartender at GTee had some outrageous baloons installed. Most of the installs are ugly and look stupid, IMO. Doubt if they bring in that much more money (especially if they ugly drunks and 'princessy') but, whatever floats their boat.

Captin Crunch
08-13-12, 02:46
I'm sure a lot of guys can relate. Plus you know more than you think you know. For example, spotting the robs and losers before you waste money.Yup. After years of being robbed, I think I have a good eye.

Raise It Up
08-13-12, 03:41
I'm real new at hostess bars. I've sat at the bar and never been approached by a hostess. I usually have to initiate contact or ask the bartender if anyone is avavailable to drink with. Is this the way it is? Should I be sitting at a booth waiting to be visited by a hostess or do I just seem like I'm not legit? I've been to Club Business which is fun but I've never been approached at Moonflower or Camelot. I had some fun at Evergreen but would like a bit more bang for my buck. I know I could just got to an AMP but I really like the idea of hostess bars. It's fun but I feel like it would be more fun if the girls were more into it.

Belot Eater
08-13-12, 13:39
I had some fun at Evergreen.What kind fun you talking about? What bg you had fun with?

Uki Eater
08-13-12, 14:33
I'm real new at hostess bars. I've sat at the bar and never been approached by a hostess. I usually have to initiate contact or ask the bartender if anyone is avavailable to drink with. Is this the way it is? Should I be sitting at a booth waiting to be visited by a hostess or do I just seem like I'm not legit? I've been to Club Business which is fun but I've never been approached at Moonflower or Camelot. I had some fun at Evergreen but would like a bit more bang for my buck. I know I could just got to an AMP but I really like the idea of hostess bars. It's fun but I feel like it would be more fun if the girls were more into it.Damn Oldee,

You really drawing in a crowd hehe.

As far as BGs approaching you at the bar, the BGs these days aren't as aggressive as the BGs in the past. They're pretty conservative. In fact, maybe they should just wear long sleeves, pants, shoes (with socks on) a hat, gloves and glasses already. LOL.

Hey, maybe you don't fall under the category of the easy target LVB customer to take advantage of. That's basically what most of the BGs like to approach. The timid, feeble minded customer that gives in easily and cannot read the signs of the BGs tricks / tactics.

Some BGs admitted that they don't like approaching customers and want MS to bring the girl over. Plus, when you sit at the bar, normally most BGs don't bother you. But, once in a while some BGs will approach you at the bar.

It's pretty funny and I'd say cute seeing the BGs at the booth staring waiting for that moment to getup and approach a customer. They stay busy trying to read the customer out before they approach. LOL.

Captin Crunch
08-13-12, 15:19
I'm real new at hostess bars. I've sat at the bar and never been approached by a hostess. I usually have to initiate contact or ask the bartender if anyone is avavailable to drink with. Is this the way it is? Should I be sitting at a booth waiting to be visited by a hostess or do I just seem like I'm not legit? I've been to Club Business which is fun but I've never been approached at Moonflower or Camelot. I had some fun at Evergreen but would like a bit more bang for my buck. I know I could just got to an AMP but I really like the idea of hostess bars. It's fun but I feel like it would be more fun if the girls were more into it.Dude come to FM one day and hang out with Oldee and BE and guarantee to learn how to act or not act in the bars. They are the masters of the KBs.

Oldee
08-13-12, 20:17
Thanks for posting bro. You've come to the right place. Its good that you ask for info as many lurkers in the same boat as you may want the same info. My first suggestion is read this thread from the beginning posts as well as other related threads as much as possible. Second, come to the next FM as you'll learn real fast then. Third, keep asking questions. Fourth, ask yourself what kind of fun you want at the bars. You've been lucky that the girls didn't approach you and I'll leave it at that, LOL. The bars can be great fun IF you know what to do and not do as mogo and Uki says. Watch what the guys do in the booths and don't copy, LOL. Most of them that sit with girls are what we call loverboys and they just buy drinks alot just to sit next to the girls and do nothing. The sukebe want play guys are another story but you need to learn the ropes first if you want that kind of action. For now, just sit at the bar and watch and observe. The girls WILL eventually approach you at the bar depending on time, bar, how busy, etc. As I said, you been lucky, LOL. Don't sit at a booth alone unless you know the girl you. Want to sit with and she's available. 90% of the game is choosing wisely. A lot of times, this means not choosing at all. Bring on more questions bro.

Lumpia808
08-13-12, 20:28
I'm real new at hostess bars. I've sat at the bar and never been approached by a hostess. I usually have to initiate contact or ask the bartender if anyone is avavailable to drink with. Is this the way it is? Should I be sitting at a booth waiting to be visited by a hostess or do I just seem like I'm not legit? I've been to Club Business which is fun but I've never been approached at Moonflower or Camelot. I had some fun at Evergreen but would like a bit more bang for my buck. I know I could just got to an AMP but I really like the idea of hostess bars. It's fun but I feel like it would be more fun if the girls were more into it.Are you young? Dress like a bum? A lot of bgs are superficial so they only go for the guys who look like they have money or are willing to spend (they tend to attack the older guys). Some bgs and mamas can see through that (they also tend to be the older or more experienced bgs) and will come up tp almost anyone. Personally its YMMV for the bars, sometimes girls won't stop bothering you, sometime they won't even bother. All the bars I've beem to had their up and down days.

WraithOfGod
08-14-12, 00:29
I'm real new at hostess bars. I've sat at the bar and never been approached by a hostess. I usually have to initiate contact or ask the bartender if anyone is avavailable to drink with. Is this the way it is? Should I be sitting at a booth waiting to be visited by a hostess or do I just seem like I'm not legit? I've been to Club Business which is fun but I've never been approached at Moonflower or Camelot. I had some fun at Evergreen but would like a bit more bang for my buck. I know I could just got to an AMP but I really like the idea of hostess bars. It's fun but I feel like it would be more fun if the girls were more into it.Just a few quick tips, echoing what others have said.

First, dress nicely. This game is about money. Dress like you have some and your chances of being approached will increase.

Second, act a little shy. This has always worked for me, mainly for the reasons already mentioned. If you look like an easy mark, you'll be treated like an easy mark. You could always try the virgin or "just broke up" trick. Works for some people, apparently. You don't have to overdo it. I'm a skinny cracker, after all, and I get play. I usually wear slacks and button-down shirt. Nothing fancy.

Third, for the love of shaven clam, don't BE an easy mark. In other words, know your limits. Some girls are pure teases. Some girls will give you a little action, but not enough to justify dropping serious money. And anything over $ is serious money, for me. I don't venture into the bar scene without taking $$$$$ with me, since I hate going home empty-handed and full-sacked.

Fourth, fondle, if you're looking for action. After a drink or two, you should be getting some T&A play. If not, you might reconsider your options. Be physically affectionate; see what the returns are. Personally, I won't exceed. 6, sans signs pointing to extras. If you feel like you're getting somewhere, ask if there's a private room open.

Fifth, watch out for LVBs. People fall in love with these girls. I was the actual boyfriend of a decently popular BG, several years ago. Not a total ROB, but there were limits she wouldn't cross, end of story. Well, unless you were going to buy her a car or something. At any rate, she had numerous LVBs crawling all over her at the places she worked. And when she was with one, she hardly had to work for their money. Flash her thong and let an LVB smack her ass? $$$, right there. Some guys buy into the fantasy wholesale, literally and figuratively.

Sixth and finally, if you do find yourself falling for a girl, switch bars. Don't go back until it passes. The easiest way to get into trouble in this hobby is to let oneself fall in love, so that the line between fantasy and reality becomes blurry. I cannot emphasize enough this one truism: You will never be the "one and only" for a BG, unless you put a ring on it. And even then, chances are 50/50, at best. Ain't gon' happen. Don't let any BG fool you.

Like I said, when I monger bars, I'm going home happy. I probably only play the bar scene once every three or four months because AMPs are guaranteed. That said, I like the chase. And bar girls are generally more sophisticated than AMP girls, or at least have a better grasp of the English language. I've never been to one of the FMs, but it sounds like a good place to start, from what I've been reading. Just remember, the girls are after your money. Play them like they're playing you and you might end up with a score.

Jehuty
08-14-12, 00:42
You want them to come to you? Well you got to raise the roof with the Gangnam Style!

Member #6721
08-14-12, 01:14
I'm real new at hostess bars. I've sat at the bar and never been approached by a hostess. I usually have to initiate contact or ask the bartender if anyone is avavailable to drink with. Is this the way it is? Should I be sitting at a booth waiting to be visited by a hostess or do I just seem like I'm not legit? I've been to Club Business which is fun but I've never been approached at Moonflower or Camelot. I had some fun at Evergreen but would like a bit more bang for my buck. I know I could just got to an AMP but I really like the idea of hostess bars. It's fun but I feel like it would be more fun if the girls were more into it.Try to get a buddy or join the group. As suggested, you can try read through the posts here, but if you don't have the patience just keep going to diff't spots and you'll find your niche. Hawaii is small, and sooner or not, you'll find your spot. Like any thing, this is a business. Girls will visually screen you, and see what type of person you are. As with anything, YMMV and it depends on how you play your cards. You drop enough and I'm sure you'll get what you want. Know what I mean?

That's just how this world operates, especially with this scene. You go to an AMP enough, you'll get tips, and insiders. It's just business. Sure, we've all paid more, and have been suckers before, but that's just how it goes.

Re-visits, especially ahead of the pack will make you stand out.

Cheers

Uki Eater
08-14-12, 01:43
Try to get a buddy or join the group.Yup. You should go with someone / partner. At least if you go with someone and both of you get taken advantage of, at least you're not alone. Right? Plus, you don't feel as bad when you find out your friend / partner spent more than you.

"Yo dude, how much you spent?"

"I think about 500?"

"No shit?"

"Yup!"

"Thanks man. I spent less than you. I don't feel so bad now"

LOL.

Member #6721
08-14-12, 02:08
I dunno how it is at Femm Nus now, but I haven't gone there in a long time. But when I went, nekkid chicks would just sit next to you as you boozed. It would be like one of those suzu bars you see in the movies.

You won't get the same at 939 though. Last I went, they changed a lot, and you'll have girls dance on the table in front of you, and the place is just a carnival now. Speaking of 939, this time, I saw this asian girl. She was young, like out of high school type young. Her boobs were an A cup, but she had that want to be import look. Ya'll know what I mean at those car shows. Lolz After the big shots danced, she came on w / her pillow. At that time, I was running quite dry, and was hanging by that weirdo type ATM. I went stealth to see if she would do more, but she didn't. I approached her, and held out the dollar and stuck it in her garder. A few more minutes, she did the shaking thing, but didn't even pop out a t*t. SHET! Loose money that one, but you can't beat the youth and tease. Good thing, I didn't make it rain. She would literally shake, move, and stick her garder out, but not even strip.

After a few more bills, I was like, fk this, and left for the night. LOL

Splooge McDuck
08-14-12, 02:32
You want them to come to you? Well you got to raise the roof with the Gangnam Style!LMFAO. Hellz yeah dude, you gutta do it big. You gutta do it 'OG Style' you gutta do it 'Oppan Gangnam Style! '

Ey, so what. Do them KBars have the instrumental to G-Style for sing Kara-Uki or what? LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpdpQTZiAVk O, O, O, O-Oppan Gangnam Style!

Niner Whiner
08-14-12, 08:36
I'm real new at hostess bars. I've sat at the bar and never been approached by a hostess. I usually have to initiate contact or ask the bartender if anyone is avavailable to drink with. Is this the way it is? Should I be sitting at a booth waiting to be visited by a hostess or do I just seem like I'm not legit? I've been to Club Business which is fun but I've never been approached at Moonflower or Camelot. I had some fun at Evergreen but would like a bit more bang for my buck. I know I could just got to an AMP but I really like the idea of hostess bars. It's fun but I feel like it would be more fun if the girls were more into it.Oldee pretty much summed it up. I'd like to add:

1) No fall in love with one bar girl.

2) Know your limit, money wise.

3) Never use credit card, only cash.

4) Spending more doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get more, or anything at all.

5) Get one difference between having one girl like you versus respecting you. Bar girls like pushovers. But they respect the man who can say no.

6) No fall in love with one bar girl.

LocalGuy808
08-14-12, 17:50
Oldee pretty much summed it up. I'd like to add:

1) No fall in love with one bar girl.

2) Know your limit, money wise.

3) Never use credit card, only cash.

4) Spending more doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get more, or anything at all.

5) Get one difference between having one girl like you versus respecting you. Bar girls like pushovers. But they respect the man who can say no.

6) No fall in love with one bar girl.Niner Whiner and Oldee are spot on. To reiterate; do not use debit or credit card in these bars. If you get approached but have your eye on someone else in the bar, do not buy her a drink. These girls tag you as "their" customer. As soon as you buy one a drink, another girl usually won't sit with you to avoid problems with the gal who tagged you as hers. One technque to deal with this is to buy the girl who approached you a drink, but tell her you want to sit with another girl (you like). She'll normally relay your request to the other girl, and since she has a drink, will take off when she finishes it. Not doing this may make you hope that the girls split to different bars, or you may have to avoid a bar to avoid a girl. But, just flat refusing to buy drinks a few times will normally stop a girl from approaching you. And did I mention, do Not use credit or debit card.

Oldee
08-14-12, 18:35
LMFAO. Hellz yeah dude, you gutta do it big. You gutta do it 'OG Style' you gutta do it 'Oppan Gangnam Style! '

Ey, so what. Do them KBars have the instrumental to G-Style for sing Kara-Uki or what? LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpdpQTZiAVk

O, O, O, O-Oppan Gangnam Style!Thanks for the link Splooge. I no need learn that style because I ALREADY dance like that from way back, LOL. A lot of KBGs no shame sing and dance like that BTW, no joke.

Oldee
08-14-12, 18:44
Niner Whiner and Oldee are spot on. To reiterate; do not use debit or credit card in these bars. If you get approached but have your eye on someone else in the bar, do not buy her a drink. These girls tag you as "their" customer. As soon as you buy one a drink, another girl usually won't sit with you to avoid problems with the gal who tagged you as hers. One technque to deal with this is to buy the girl who approached you a drink, but tell her you want to sit with another girl (you like). She'll normally relay your request to the other girl, and since she has a drink, will take off when she finishes it. Not doing this may make you hope that the girls split to different bars, or you may have to avoid a bar to avoid a girl. But, just flat refusing to buy drinks a few times will normally stop a girl from approaching you. And did I mention, do Not use credit or debit card.Man, Raise is REAL lucky, because so many of you willing to help out new guys which is cool. Bottom line is more bang for your buck and more fun too. Actually, I'm sure MANY lurkers that read is benefiting too. I particularly like the young guy's perspectives which some of us ole futs sometimes overlook. Being younger get plus and minuses as Lumps and others said. BTW, Uki's post cracked me up. I remember one time posting about the blind leading the blind which I still see at bars, LOL. When you go with a partner, make SURE he knows what to do to not get robbed.

Uki Eater
08-14-12, 19:43
Are you young? Dress like a bum? A lot of bgs are superficial so they only go for the guys who look like they have money or are willing to spend (they tend to attack the older guys). Some bgs and mamas can see through that (they also tend to be the older or more experienced bgs) and will come up tp almost anyone. Personally its YMMV for the bars, sometimes girls won't stop bothering you, sometime they won't even bother. All the bars I've beem to had their up and down days.Heh, true Lumps. You know the BGs will read / analyze / judge each customer that walks into a bar. Just based on visual appearance alone, they speculate that a customer may not have the money to spend and is only there to look. Like you say, a young guy for example. They'll assume that he doesn't have the money and won't spend as much money as say an older customer. Especially, when he doesn't dress / look like the type that would have money. So, they don't take him seriously. But, once they see that he is spending money in the bar, then they wakeup / realize

"Ooh wow! This guy got money! He spending alot!"

Next thing you know, they start to come over to the guy.

"Hi! How are you? What's your name?"

However, some BGs don't mind sitting with young guys for a change because they can relate to them better because they fall within the same age range and can share similar interests.

Splooge McDuck
08-14-12, 20:50
Thanks for the link Splooge. I no need learn that style because I ALREADY dance like that from way back, LOL. A lot of KBGs no shame sing and dance like that BTW, no joke.LOL. Hahahaha. Oldee you the funniest. U already dance like that LOL. Oldee is the OG, OG-Style.

Oldee Gangnam Stlyle Oh! O, O, O, O-Oldee Gangnam Style!

I like see the girls sing & dance like Hyuna singing the anthem here. OMG so cute her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4&feature=channel&list=UL "G Style" PSY & Hyuna.

Here's the original. I dunno, just in case anyone never see this video yet LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0 OG "G Style" PSY

Captin Crunch
08-14-12, 23:11
The KKW (Korean Kokonut Wireless) is strong. If you guys been going kb long time and monger all over town and Kalihi, the girls know who you are. They know if you spend or no spend. Its the newbies that they cannot figure out. Kbg not dumb. They get fantastic memory. If you lvb, you labelled as lvb for life. No one really bother me anymore, because I becoming cheap charlie. Thanks to bro oldee and kapakahi. Sorry bro lumps and jehuty you guys seem like lvb. Don't know what BE is labelled as? Can someone let me know. Please.

Kapakahi
08-15-12, 01:00
No one really bother me anymore, because I becoming cheap charlie. Thanks to bro oldee and kapakahi. Sorry bro lumps and jehuty you guys seem like lvb. Don't know what BE is labelled as? Can someone let me know. Please.The KBGs can recognize even trace amounts of LVB DNA better than the Great White. Your LVB scent and DNA profile never really leaves; you need to produce your own NEON repellent via prior experience and knowledge. Having current LVBs chumming the waters with nekos is entertaining and a window for former LVBs to recover. The attention given to LVBs is only temporary and fake, anyway, until they turn to dust. Remember, the KBGs choose who they like poke (not you).

Lumpia808
08-15-12, 02:40
Ill admit, my spending habits when I do buy nekos tend to be LVB in nature. At times I can easily buy 3 or 4 before I tell the girl to beat it, regardless of any kind of play or time between each drink. Though I don't buy nekos in hopes that I may hook up with girl afterward or all that fall in love bs. Kbars for me is just something to pass time. I would consider my posts more to share my experiences from a "younger" perspective rather than advice to the fellow mongers on here. I usually only go kbars once a week so doesn't really bother me if I were to waste $ in a night. When I go civilian bars with friends I spend about the same anyway. The money I bring out on bar night I treat as if it were my "vegas" money, as in I will most likely lose all of it and not win jackpot, lol.

Oldee
08-15-12, 04:20
B E is called #1. Also, its a good thing to look like a LVB. Its being one that is bad. Want to play with the hotties? Got to have the LVB look, LOL. How do I know this to be true? Hottie KBGs told me of course, lol.

Oldee
08-15-12, 21:22
I would consider my posts more to share my experiences from a "younger" perspective rather than advice to the fellow mongers on here. .From what I have seen, younger mongers on this forum are among the most knowledgeable hostess bar mongers compared to the usual run of the mill inexperienced LVBs I see at he bars. They learn FAST and are more open minded about learning new stuff. In other words, they know more than they think they know, especially with relating to the mindset of other younger mongers. Guys like Lumps shouldn't be afraid to give advice, even to older guys as they MAY know stuff older guys don't know that they don't know, LOL. Look at all the LVBs in the hostess bars, most of them not young and never did learn. If you are a regular reader of these forums, you know meore than most guys that go hostess bars regardless of age. Nothing beats experience but you don't always have to neccessarily go through the experiences others have to learn what's there to learn. I think guys like Uki know what they know from observing and LISTENING. I' ve probably been to the bars thousands of times more than him but that doesn't mean I know a thousand times more. So you young guys, no shame post your advice and or opinions. Oldee like learn too.

Kapakahi
08-16-12, 02:43
From what I have seen, younger mongers on this forum are among the most knowledgeable hostess bar mongers compared to the usual run of the mill inexperienced LVBs I see at he bars. They learn FAST and are more open minded about learning new stuff.Nowadays young guys are sharp and they more practical about how they spend their money. Before, everbody was too generous and it came back to bite them; some even ruined their lives. That's why nothing good ever happens in a KB and with a KBG; there're too many sad souls wandering about, IMO. Not trying to create spooks but rather quantifying all the sad shat happenings. Enough already.

So young, middle, or old aged guys should try to post in order to have everybody benefit from their experiences. Nobody should feel that what they have to say is irrelevant or dumb. Just post and we take it from there in a positive and cool manner. Show up at the FMs; no need make obvious; when you ready just come along for the experience.

Uki Eater
08-19-12, 18:39
Yeah no scared tell any of them to F off or at least beat it. They will actually respect you for it and not falling for their BS.I don't think it is a good idea to literally tell a BG to F Off or Beat It like the BG is being a pest. If more and more customers did this then the BGs are not going to want to bother to approach customers. Then, when the BGs don't approach, customers be wondering: "How come the girls don't approach us?" I give credit to BGs who do approach even if I'm not going to buy them a drink. They're suppose to hustle for drinks to make money. Better than them sitting at the booth fiddling with their phones and not doing shit. LOL.

It's like you're in a retail store browsing around and don't want to be bothered by a sales rep when he approaches. But, when you do need help, you wonder why no one is there to assist you. Or, they are there but, don't approach you. I actually overheard a customer talk sassy back at a salesrep when he offered assistance to the customer. The customer replied with: "Did I ask for help?" LOL. Goodness, so sassy. I can't believe he said that. He could have just said: "Oh no, no thank you" Just do the same thing with the BGs to.

Alot of guys get hard time saying no. They either give the cold shoulder, don't acknowledge her when she's talking and ignore the BG until she gets the hint and leaves. Or, they tell the BG off like they irritated / bothered / pissed off by them. Just tell um nicely but, sound firm with no hesitation. They'll know you're firm that when they try to push for that good luck drink, it won't work. Don't let these BGs get the best of you. Be assertive with them.

I bet most customers wouldn't tell a cute / pretty bg to beat it or F off. So, they only do it to certain BGs that they don't have an interest in or care for. How many guys would tell Ashley at Twilight to beat it or F Off? I bet practically no one would. I wouldn't because there's really no need to. They'll respect you when you can handle them in a cool, calm and mature manner. It's like a person handling an emergency situation without panicking / freaking out."Don't worry, I'll take care of it" As oppose to:

"Shit, no worry! Frick, I got it. I know what I doing!" LOL

Belot Eater
08-19-12, 19:22
I don't think it is a good idea to literally tell a BG to F Off or Beat It like the BG is being a pest. If more and more customers did this then the BGs are not going to want to bother to approach customers. Then, when the BGs don't approach, customers be wondering: "How come the girls don't approach us?" I give credit to BGs who do approach even if I'm not going to buy them a drink. They're suppose to hustle for drinks to make money. Better than them sitting at the booth fiddling with their phones and not doing shit. LOL.

It's like you're in a retail store browsing around and don't want to be bothered by a sales rep when he approaches. But, when you do need help, you wonder why no one is there to assist you. Or, they are there but, don't approach you. I actually overheard a customer talk sassy back at a salesrep when he offered assistance to the customer. The customer replied with: "Did I ask for help?" LOL. Goodness, so sassy. I can't believe he said that. He could have just said: "Oh no, no thank you" Just do the same thing with the BGs to.

Alot of guys get hard time saying no. They either give the cold shoulder, don't acknowledge her when she's talking and ignore the BG until she gets the hint and leaves. Or, they tell the BG off like they irritated / bothered / pissed off by them. Just tell um nicely but, sound firm with no hesitation. They'll know you're firm that when they try to push for that good luck drink, it won't work. Don't let these BGs get the best of you. Be assertive with them.

I bet most customers wouldn't tell a cute / pretty bg to beat it or F off. So, they only do it to certain BGs that they don't have an interest in or care for. How many guys would tell Ashley at Twilight to beat it or F Off? I bet practically no one would. I wouldn't because there's really no need to. They'll respect you when you can handle them in a cool, calm and mature manner. It's like a person handling an emergency situation without panicking / freaking out."Don't worry, I'll take care of it" As oppose to:

"Shit, no worry! Frick, I got it. I know what I doing!" LOLYea that would be kind of rude. Told that crazy chick that use to work at MF " fuck no " because she wanted a green bottle for 40. Now days when the girls cum by me and asks if they can sit, I just tell them I not going buy her drink. Most times they say. Thank you and den leave.

H Mobius
08-19-12, 20:59
Yea that would be kind of rude. Told that crazy chick that use to work at MF " fuck no " because she wanted a green bottle for 40. Now days when the girls cum by me and asks if they can sit, I just tell them I not going buy her drink. Most times they say. Thank you and den leave.Those 'green bottles for 40' are a bad idea; it's not like a VB where you will get play in a private booth where the cost of admission is 40. For me it's yet another sign of a ROB. I decline and if she protests or nags she's fired and ends up getting nothing.

When I do get approached for company I say "No thank you" and it almost always works. The nicer girls will smile and maybe check back later; some are quite skilled at approaching and sometimes I change my mind and sit with them for a bit, in recognition of their tact and presentation skills.

Talk about "crazy chicks"; a while back there was one at Tomorrow who would not take "no" for an answer, even after I told her up front I wasn't buying her anything. Some crazy older Chinese lady, the type that just blows through town. Finally had to tell her 'beat it', to put an end to her incessant demands for a drink and nudging me to "move in".