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Member #4713
03-02-12, 14:28
Okay, I think I'm ready for my next vb / kb visit. Just got to remember, stay in control, choose wisely, octopus hands and mouth, and stall tactics. Thanks guys. Will let you know how it goes.
Which leads to this, when is a BG considered to be a ROB? I know, to each his own, YMMV, but still, there is a fine line that needs to be crossed. One neko every 10-15 minutes for unlimited groping / fondling? The hand slap with her saying "Ya, hajjima"! She just goes and gets a neko without you saying ok or offering? Great sevice with a few markers and pupus? Fuck session in the parking lot? How many nekos are you willing to buy her? Justified?For me, it still comes down to YMMV and if she plays or not being the deciding factor for the most part. For some, a benji is cheap even if NO PLAY because they can afford it, others its a ripoff IF the bg AGREED to certain services but doesn't do so after the monger pays. Hints of play etc DO NOT COUNT imo. If you keep buying and get nothing, its your own fault, plain and simple. ALL BGs will rob you if you let them. If you act like a sucker, you WILL be treated as such. The hostess bar game is not like the AMPs or MTs with a set standard price for services, its a whoile different ball game so priices and values vary greatly. I've spent as little as 0 neko for play and as much as 6 bills for the trophy bgs, (not anymore) but none was what I consider a rob situation IF I got play and felt it was worth it. Its up to each monger to decide that. Himself.
Thumperforq
03-03-12, 00:07
It's hard to average it to 15 min per drink as it's going to vary on the BG, how fast she drinks, how soon she asks, how good you are in stalling on the drinks. In most cases, if the BG is pretty and you're attracted to her looks, you'll buy her the next round in 5 min. You'll just do it especially when you don't see other BGs that you like. Of course in your mind you're thinking: "Holy shit! That's fast! Asking tor the next drink already"
These BGs, when they know your happy and excited, they be going into overdrive and be asking for more drinks in a shorter time."Oooh, here's my chance to take advantage of him!" It's that period of opportunity for them to capitalize on and take full advantage when they see you're vulnerable to give in.
Using aggressiveness is a good indicator to seeing if it's worth buying more drinks. If you try kissum or roam and she pushes back or implies she don't like, stop the drinks and give her the boot."Good! Now I know the answer on whether I should continue or not" Better than just spending and spending waiting for something to happen.When KB and VB mamas are training the girls, they tell them they should be getting 10 drinks every hour if they are sitting with a customer. In VBs, the waiters / waitress are trained to help the BG by returning to the table and push the drinks every 4 minutes, so a new drink is on the table every 6 minutes. In KBs, the BG is expected to get her own drinks from the bar or ask the waiter / waitress to get them for her, but she is supposed to average 10 drinks an hour.
The LVBs and their DKBGs are living on borrowed moneys and time, each hoping that the nightmare (s) will end soon. Not going end soon so more play from KBGs and less money for "take care my DKBG" from LVBs.
YMMV but these are the bars either too expensive or don't have play girls, at least in my experience lately. Camelot, Business and EG does have play girls but too expensive for me. You rich? Then no problem I sometimes (rarely) play with EG girls but I'm good at stall tactics, hehe. Tommorrow an Twilight seem like don't have or if they did, same as above 3. Splash, Moonflower Butts, Damour and now Ellie are hit and miss meaning sometimes yes and sometimes no. Who else willing to share?
There are no set "rules" regarding time between drinks but every 5 minutes is too fast for me. It also depends on "type" of play, LOL. It's harder for her to go for drinks with you doing fiv, LOL. Learn stall tactics my friend, like fighting a fish on the line, use finese, LOL. Again, the easy part is deciding to buy or no buy during play, its getting the KBG to play is the hard part. CHOOSE WISELY bro and have fun while trying not to break the bank in your wallet.5 min a drink is fast for most people. Guys who are big spenders are the ones who can keep up and have no problems with 5 min a drink. But, they also spoil the BGs that the BGs test a customers spending limit to see how he can keep up in regards to buying drinks. They can't keep up."Meh, he's cheap!" is their mentality. They can avoid that customer now. Choosing the right BG that will play for you and stalling is the way to getting the most for your money. Most guys just go for the hot ones. Duh? All the other guys be waiting in line and she knows it. Therefore, in order for her to continue sitting next to you, she's going to want you to spend as much as possible for her to make it worth her time away from the other customers who's willing to spend on her.
BG: "OK, he's buying me lots of shots. Good, I don't mind staying since he spending alot"
If not, she feels she could have spent her time with another customer who's willing to spend more on her than you.
BG: "Why should I sit next to you when you only spend so much? I rather be sitting next to someone who spends more!"
Choose the right BG that's willing to sit with you and use stall tactics to prolong her from asking for the next drink. If you're sociable, you can use it to your advantage. If you're not that sociable, bring up questions that requires her to answer it in sentences. Not just one word yes or no answers. She'll have to explain her answers. Distract her from giving her the chance to ask for the next drink. Have her sing to, she can't ask for drink when she's busy singing. She like push on the drinks, time to unleash aggressiveness onto her and put her on the spot. Using aggressiveness can be a good way to eliminating the BGs that waste your time / money. On the other hand, using money and number of drinks is not a good indicator / sign of play. In most cases, why should the BGs offer play to you when you're already spending on her?
BG: " Why should I touch this guy? No need! He buying me drinks just sitting next to him"
When the customer starts to hesitate on buying anymore drinks.
BG: "Uh oh, I better start get touchy feely with him now. Yes! It worked. I got him to continue buying more"
When KB and VB mamas are training the girls, they tell them they should be getting 10 drinks every hour if they are sitting with a customer. In VBs, the waiters / waitress are trained to help the BG by returning to the table and push the drinks every 4 minutes, so a new drink is on the table every 6 minutes. In KBs, the BG is expected to get her own drinks from the bar or ask the waiter / waitress to get them for her, but she is supposed to average 10 drinks an hour.I doubt most of the BGs will be able to get customers to buy 10 drinks in 1 hour. The hot ones can but, the not so attractive BGs cannot. The not so attractive BGs will have to settle for whatever they can get. Heh, the BGs when they notice you're all happy, that's when they ask for more drinks or just help themselves. It's like a daughter asking her dad for money or borrowing the car when he's in a good mood. If he's in a foul mood, she waits until he's in a better mood than asks. I notice some bgs shame to ask and they sit there waiting for the right time to ask for the next one. She doesn't want to hear a lecture from the customer if she tries to pull a fast one. There are those customers who do scold them and the bgs be standing there with a blank look on their faces because she never thought he'd make a big deal out of it but he did.
Customer: "Hey, where did this drink come from? Did I say you could get another drink?"
BG: "No hunnee"
Customer: "So, why'd you get the drink withought asking me?"
BG thinks: "Awww, shit, I thought I could pull this off. Bummers. He's not the typical sucker type customer"
Most guys don't want to create waves or rock the boat and just let it slide.
Customer thinks: "I don't want to make a scene and cause trouble. I'll just buy it already *sigh*"
Like you said Oldee, the same customer(s) can make a say and complain in a restaurant or store but, in a hostess bar, they don't? What's the difference?
Did you choose your screen name because Uki spelled backwards is ikU in japanese or CUM? Whenever I go soaps in japan now I'm tempted to say Uki Uki Uki when about to finish, LOL.
Did you choose your screen name because Uki spelled backwards is ikU in japanese or CUM? Whenever I go soaps in japan now I'm tempted to say Uki Uki Uki when about to finish, LOL.Actually, I was just being silly and made up a stupid name. I actually had another handle couple years ago but, I don't know what it is and the password. I forgot.
By the way Oldee, you maybe older but, the way you write is young. Some guys younger than you act older. Makes them appear older to. I guess when you joke around, it makes you appear younger.
That Bro phrase you use is quite catchy. Lumps bro, Uki bro, LOL. I enjoy saying it. Next thing you know I be saying it to people at the bar.
I doubt most of the BGs will be able to get customers to buy 10 drinks in 1 hour. The hot ones can but, the not so attractive BGs cannot. The not so attractive BGs will have to settle for whatever they can get. Heh, the BGs when they notice you're all happy, that's when they ask for more drinks or just help themselves. It's like a daughter asking her dad for money or borrowing the car when he's in a good mood. If he's in a foul mood, she waits until he's in a better mood than asks. I notice some bgs shame to ask and they sit there waiting for the right time to ask for the next one. She doesn't want to hear a lecture from the customer if she tries to pull a fast one. There are those customers who do scold them and the bgs be standing there with a blank look on their faces because she never thought he'd make a big deal out of it but he did.
Customer: "Hey, where did this drink come from? Did I say you could get another drink?"
BG: "No hunnee"
Customer: "So, why'd you get the drink withought asking me?"
BG thinks: "Awww, shit, I thought I could pull this off. Bummers. He's not the typical sucker type customer"When you put your foot down like that, many girls will have more respect for you because they no longer see you as a patsy. On the other hand, sometime, you just have to make them pay. Girls who get a drink every 5 minutes will tap out their customers fast as that is $240 an hour. Observe how these girls are before you sit with them. If they are the 5 minute ones, be prepared and offer her champagne as it'll run you $300 and should last the hour. Tell the waiter you'll open the bottle, that way you reduce "spillage". That way you also know it is the real stuff being served. Tell the girl she cannot leave the table / room (bathroom is fine) , if she does, you will not pay. If the bottle is done, and if you have the money, get another one. Repeat. Leave before the bar closes and leave her behind. Next time she sees you, her drinking habits will be very different.
When you put your foot down like that, many girls will have more respect for you because they no longer see you as a patsy. On the other hand, sometime, you just have to make them pay. Girls who get a drink every 5 minutes will tap out their customers fast as that is $240 an hour. Observe how these girls are before you sit with them. If they are the 5 minute ones, be prepared and offer her champagne as it'll run you $300 and should last the hour. Tell the waiter you'll open the bottle, that way you reduce "spillage". That way you also know it is the real stuff being served. Tell the girl she cannot leave the table / room (bathroom is fine) , if she does, you will not pay. If the bottle is done, and if you have the money, get another one. Repeat. Leave before the bar closes and leave her behind. Next time she sees you, her drinking habits will be very different.I also just refuse to pay if they bring neko w / o asking. Oldee no like the rooms or buying ChamPAIN so I once got the barback to switch the usual fake shots with 5 real shots of 151. Felt bad (she got wasted bad) so now I just say no Hey JR, the tv show DALLAS coming back and so is JR Ewing, LOL.
Tell the girl she cannot leave the table / room (bathroom is fine).He-he! For me, "Hunney I go bettroom" is code for "I taking a break because you grabbing my ass too much", or "My handsome / big spender / generous with the food and cash / party-friendly customer just came, so kiss my ass and wait", or "I know you get money but let me see if any other suckas I know came in since the last time I wen look", or something. I know Uki can list 1001 more codes but I figure those are the most common in my case :).
One obviously fullashit girl was gone long time and used the "I was smoke after" excuse; I asked if 'it' was good for her and she looked bewildered. It actually is kind of funny to see.
I also just refuse to pay if they bring neko w / o asking. Oldee no like the rooms or buying ChamPAIN so I once got the barback to switch the usual fake shots with 5 real shots of 151. Felt bad (she got wasted bad) so now I just say no Hey JR, the tv show DALLAS coming back and so is JR Ewing, LOL.Done all of that as well. JR Ewing, now that guy is more cut throat than I could ever be! If he were to go to a KB, it would be interesting to watch.
He-he! For me,"Hunney I go bettroom" is code for "I taking a break because you grabbing my ass too much", or "My handsome / big spender / generous with the food and cash / party-friendly customer just came, so kiss my ass and wait", or "I know you get money but let me see if any other suckas I know came in since the last time I wen look", or something. I know Uki can list 1001 more codes but I figure those are the most common in my case.
One obviously fullashit girl was gone long time and used the "I was smoke after" excuse; I asked if 'it' was good for her and she looked bewildered. It actually is kind of funny to see.Haha. Yup. My friend went BR with someone withought buying any drinks at the bar. I think he got her 1. He took her BR right away. I'm at the bar chillin. She comes out and be talking to the bartender about how my friend was going off trying to suck on her big boobs. They were talking in Korean. She trying to not make me know and hear but, I can tell what was going on based on her reactions. She kept stepping out to take a break from it trying to stall.
BGs like to use the: "I come back" line to not sound rude by just walking away and not saying anything. She figures saying that is not as bad as not saying anything at all. But, of course she doesn't come back. Or, she takes looong time until she does come back. It basically means.
BG thinks to herself: "Shit, he not buying me anymore drinks. He's slow. Ooh, I see one of my customers that just came in!"
BG says: "I come back"
LOL.
So hilarious when BGs lie (lame in excuses)
BGs like to use the: "I come back" line to not sound rude by just walking away and not saying anything. She figures saying that is not as bad as not saying anything at all. But, of course she doesn't come back. Or, she takes looong time until she does come back. It basically means.
BG thinks to herself: "Shit, he not buying me anymore drinks. He's slow. Ooh, I see one of my customers that just came in!"
BG says: "I come back"
LOL.
So hilarious when BGs lie (lame in excuses) When I want to dig out fast, LOL. As for that kind KBGs, I don't wait, just go another bar or choose another girl. However that don't happen much because they know they lose me as customer next time. Happens to LVBs all the time though, LOL. Reverse the game bros! Hey Iku Orb, you name sounds good backwards, LOL
When I want to dig out fast, LOL. As for that kind KBGs, I don't wait, just go another bar or choose another girl. However that don't happen much because they know they lose me as customer next time. Happens to LVBs all the time though, LOL. Reverse the game bros! Hey Iku Orb, you name sounds good backwards, LOLTell them, if you have a customer, I'm not sticking around. They give the sour face and I tell them get rid of the customer. Still get the sour face, time to walk.
I also just refuse to pay if they bring neko w / o asking. Oldee no like the rooms or buying ChamPAIN so I once got the barback to switch the usual fake shots with 5 real shots of 151. Felt bad (she got wasted bad) so now I just say no Hey JR, the tv show DALLAS coming back and so is JR Ewing, LOL.I would not take any pity. If that girl was stupid enough to continue to drink fast after the first shot, she deserved to get hammered.
I would not take any pity. If that girl was stupid enough to continue to drink fast after the first shot, she deserved to get hammered.Yup. 5 x watered down shots, drinks it fast and no play. Where's the benefit?
BG: "Yah, but, what about just being visually excited by my looks? Isn't that benefit enough? It's not often you'd be sitting with a woman as gorgeous as me right?"
Customer: "Uhhmm, no"
BG: "Just buy me the drinks. Who cares if watered down. You get good job. You wouldn't be in this bar if you don't have money to spend. Right? Cmon hunnee!! Buy it!"
BG: "We take CC and ATM machine is over there. Cmon hunnee, be nice and help a woman in dire need of upgrading her cell phone"
LOL.
Member #4713
03-06-12, 23:30
Yup. 5 x watered down shots, drinks it fast and no play. Where's the benefit?
BG: "Yah, but, what about just being visually excited by my looks? Isn't that benefit enough? It's not often you'd be sitting with a woman as gorgeous as me right?"
Customer: "Uhhmm, no"
BG: "Just buy me the drinks. Who cares if watered down. You get good job. You wouldn't be in this bar if you don't have money to spend. Right? Cmon hunnee! Buy it!"
BG: "We take CC and ATM machine is over there. Cmon hunnee, be nice and help a woman in dire need of upgrading her cell phone"
LOL.If a bg does the fast drink or the 5 x watered down shots, tell her "what I look like, one used band aid?"
Bg: uh, no? (wondering what you talking about).
Customer: then why you ripping me off?
I read that one somewhere, maybe one post on this board, and thought it was funny.
The general acceptance is what is shocking to me here. Places like Manila / Makati all have areas where you know things are shady, but it's just everywhere here. Not that I don't like AMPs or KBs, but even the police here are questionable everywhere. Not talking about the sex industry specifically. Think about all the old gambling machines pretty much in plain sight at Hawaiian Brians back in the day.
Just another example on how corrupt things are. Its no secret they can't arrest you if you don't get paid right away.I think Honolulu is rather tame and relatively low in corruption for a major city anywhere in the world. Sure, there is corruption, but that's true for practically ANY city big or small ANYWHERE in the world. While Honolulu is not corruption free, I'm sure we are not even close to most other cities on the mainland and others in the world. Machines? Come on now. Sure its illegal gambling but don't bodda me and never played. That's small kind shit man. We got it pretty good here guys. Where is this other corruption that's EVERYWHERE in this city? Most of the population here don't play those machines or even know they exist to begin with, LOL. Live and let live is what I say. I certainly don't want big brother to start looking our way to regulate OTHER segments of our hobby we enjoy, primarily because its not needed, period. It's an election year so I'm not surprised a lot of these busts are tied to polititians just trying to look good. While I'm sure there are less corrupt cities in the world, you'd be hard pressed to name just 1. Just IMHO, hehe
If a bg does the fast drink or the 5 x watered down shots, tell her "what I look like, one used band aid?"
Bg: uh, no? (wondering what you talking about).
Customer: then why you ripping me off?
I read that one somewhere, maybe one post on this board, and thought it was funny.Did you venture into any KBs yet? BTW, that's the 5 shot special the KBGs ask for because they lazy go to the bar after each shot. Yes, got 10, 20 shots etc too. Mostly, its LVBs that buy. Not recomended, hehe.
Member #4713
03-07-12, 00:25
Did you venture into any KBs yet? BTW, that's the 5 shot special the KBGs ask for because they lazy go to the bar after each shot. Yes, got 10, 20 shots etc too. Mostly, its LVBs that buy. Not recomended, hehe.Not yet, I still studying before I take the test and I haven't had time to get out recently. I'll be sure to post when I do. They get choke shots for being lazy? Man, what a life. I guess that's how messed up the bar scene is, they should only get choke shots for "working" hard. By the way, I was reading the posts in 2011 and what happened with ILTW? Butt heads with Jackson? Too bad, those are some entertaining posts. The guy must be a comedian. Is he still around in the PM's or is he gone gone?
Tell them, if you have a customer, I'm not sticking around. They give the sour face and I tell them get rid of the customer. Still get the sour face, time to walk.Yup. Recently I had a girl who lacked even the least amount of courtesy and just rubbernecked with an "OO, OO" look on her face, and jumped up to go seat her customer and party without so much as an "I be bekk"; I went next door.
Personally, I appreciate when they are straight with me and it in part determines the amount of repeat business, if any, I would give her. My preference is to tell the girl to not get a shot (most times I decline such requests especially with a new girl), but I definitely remember a girl who downs the shot but then nurses the 'back' for a long time.
Just some of my current tendencies these days, due in large part to BG tendencies these days. With the availability of c-girls though, I have sharply cut back on KBGs.
Oh, something I find interesting are these girls who aspire to open their own business. I've read the expression, "If you don't take care of your customer, someone else will" and run it by the girl. I'm always amused when a BG finds this concept perplexing, until I use a concrete example they can personally relate to. I got a couple of girls to put-out that way, but I suppose it's wishful thinking to hope for propagation along the k-net.
H M
Not yet, I still studying before I take the test and I haven't had time to get out recently. I'll be sure to post when I do. They get choke shots for being lazy? Man, what a life. I guess that's how messed up the bar scene is, they should only get choke shots for "working" hard. By the way, I was reading the posts in 2011 and what happened with ILTW? Butt heads with Jackson? Too bad, those are some entertaining posts. The guy must be a comedian. Is he still around in the PM's or is he gone gone?He certainly was THE funniest and most informative KB imo. Too bad at alot of his posts at the end were deleted because of too much pigin. He and I had great exchanges and I think he occationaly lurks here and hopefully he returns. My last pms with him was him pursuing the freebie game in Waiks. He also often had work assignments overseas too Read the mind of Kg and KB reports thread too of his posts for valuable info.
Not yet, I still studying before I take the test and I haven't had time to get out recently. I'll be sure to post when I do. They get choke shots for being lazy? Man, what a life. I guess that's how messed up the bar scene is, they should only get choke shots for "working" hard. By the way, I was reading the posts in 2011 and what happened with ILTW? Butt heads with Jackson? Too bad, those are some entertaining posts. The guy must be a comedian. Is he still around in the PM's or is he gone gone?Yup. Considering the amount of $ they can get from 1 customer, you'd think they would work hard for it. But, nope. Basically, finding a quick and easy method of making money at the simplest way possible is their outlook. I guess they want to avoid and not deal with customers they're not attracted to and not interested in. If they had a choice, they rather have someone they like spend on them vs someone they don't like. Unless, its slow where they'll just bite the bullet since something is better than nothing. Just settle for someone she doesn't care for to buy drinks until that regular of hers comes in.
BG: "There he is! Oh my gawd, I'm saved! Time to ditch this chump! Good thing he hasn't put a finger on me yet. Ewww"
LOL.
Not yet, I still studying before I take the test and I haven't had time to get out recently. I'll be sure to post when I do. They get choke shots for being lazy? Man, what a life. I guess that's how messed up the bar scene is, they should only get choke shots for "working" hard. By the way, I was reading the posts in 2011 and what happened with ILTW? Butt heads with Jackson? Too bad, those are some entertaining posts. The guy must be a comedian. Is he still around in the PM's or is he gone gone?With the input from Oldee, JR, Uki and others, I'm sure you'll be ok. IMHO what is more important than remembering chunks of information from the Forum, is the ability to think on one's feet. That is a useful skill anywhere in or out of the bars. Only you know your abilities but again I think you'll be alright. This is a form of entertainment so you will always have to factor in some loss; every here and there a drink will seem wasted, but many times that first drink leads you to your next move.
I find that assertiveness frequently is my best bet; nowadays many girls will test a new customer to see "who's who"; not every guy off the street is pleasant to sit with and some can be downright abusive even if only verbally so.
Just my 2 cents.
KBs are just bars with eye candy and not dangerous or scary if you can say no. Its that simple. I really like what H Mobius said about thinking on your feet too. Don't stress about every little thing and making mistakes. Even us guys who been going for decades often just enjoy the beer, food, karaUki, sports on tv, girl watching, LVB watching, and bsing with your buddies. Whats not to like? LOL. In other words, don't treat it as a 'test'. It can be as easy and painless as going any store or Zippys to relax and enjoy. Just spend when YOU want to on a KBG that catches your fancy. The horror storys you read about are usually the LVBs trying to win the hearts of their chosen KBGs or guys that can't say no. Its really no big deal where you need all this knowledge to survive. They don't have vaccum cleaner hands ready to suck out your money, as long as you remember YOU are the customer and can say no. They will respect you more too. They KBs are playgrounds and you can play how YOU want.
KBs are just bars with eye candy and not dangerous or scary if you can say no. Its that simple. I really like what H Mobius said about thinking on your feet too. Don't stress about every little thing and making mistakes. Even us guys who been going for decades often just enjoy the beer, food, karaUki, sports on tv, girl watching, LVB watching, and bsing with your buddies. Whats not to like? LOL. In other words, don't treat it as a 'test'. It can be as easy and painless as going any store or Zippys to relax and enjoy. Just spend when YOU want to on a KBG that catches your fancy. The horror storys you read about are usually the LVBs trying to win the hearts of their chosen KBGs or guys that can't say no. Its really no big deal where you need all this knowledge to survive. They don't have vaccum cleaner hands ready to suck out your money, as long as you remember YOU are the customer and can say no. They will respect you more too. They KBs are playgrounds and you can play how YOU want.Well stated. Bars in general have been a source of entertainment for me for years. I have found out the hard way that it should stay that way. On your next excursion, bear these tips in mind:
1. The BG does not like you. She may even hate you. IMHO most BGs have a profound hatred for men. (argue with me please)
2. She is only after one thing. Money.
3. She will promise the world to you, no lie is forbidden I. E." honey-ya, can I borrow money? My mom is in the hospital and I can't pay." I fell for this one...shit
4. Do not let you intimidate you. She may / will throw a fit if you don't buy drinks.
5. Do not allow her friends to sit down, most of the time she will ask / demand that you buy them a round also.
6. If things don't work your way, just get up and leave. (get used to this)
There are many (100's? 1000's) more. Just ask around. If any of the brothers feel like adding, please do.
Well stated. Bars in general have been a source of entertainment for me for years. I have found out the hard way that it should stay that way. On your next excursion, bear these tips in mind:
1. The BG does not like you. She may even hate you. IMHO most BGs have a profound hatred for men. (argue with me please)
2. She is only after one thing. Money.
3. She will promise the world to you, no lie is forbidden I. E." honey-ya, can I borrow money? My mom is in the hospital and I can't pay." I fell for this one. Shit.
4. Do not let you intimidate you. She may / will throw a fit if you don't buy drinks.
5. Do not allow her friends to sit down, most of the time she will ask / demand that you buy them a round also.
6. If things don't work your way, just get up and leave. (get used to this)
There are many (100's? 1000's) more. Just ask around. If any of the brothers feel like adding, please do.1. They cannot help but think negative about the men that go these type of places. These women feel that most men are.
A. Needy and desperate.
B. Horny and perverted.
C. Looking to show off and impress the women.
D. All of the above.
They categorize the men to see where they fall under.
2. It's obvious. They're not working in the bar looking for love. The men who go there be offering their love hoping the bg loves them back. Some of the BGs eventually give in because it's their ticket out of the bar and someone to fall back on. Just let the guy spoil and take care her already.
3. If you fall for their lies, it's not their fault if you suckered into it. There's no sign that says the BGs will be honest and tell the truth. Plus, it doesn't hurt for them to try. He may just say yes. They also assume that customers won't be telling the truth.
4. They want to intimadate you so you don't argue back and just buy the drinks. Therefore, she has gained control over you. You wimped out to her and you eventually give in to avoid making a scene. Its like your gf / wife throwing a fit and you suddenly drop it to avoid an argument. You let her win.
5. She wants to have her friends come by and make some money from you to. Also, she can bring her friend to take her own place because she really doesn't want to sit with you.
6. There will be times that even when you try to be firm, the bg still don't listen. You are put in a position where you have no choice but to walk out. The bg is that hard headed to even bother to listen to you. She simply doesn't care what you think and will get the drink anyways. You simply can't shed any logic to her.
If you like the young hotties, you better have a lot of money or game. Having both is even better. One thing to do is to throw them off their game as they expect to get their way since they are the Queen of the bar. Think of it like car negotiations: never let her know your level of interest. If she comes by and expects to sit down, tell her "maybe later." This will usually get her wondering why she wasn't chosen. Give her 15 minutes then call her back if she is available. Sit down and talk, tell her you were busy talking to friends and now you are free. Compliment her as women love that crap, but throw her off her game again. Tell her something like that is a beautiful dress, but.
Thanks for posting guys. Harris and WHOEVER read your posts will greatly benefit if they heed and apply all those many years of experience. You reall lucky Harris, as you don't have to make as many mistakes as we have, LOL.
Thanks for posting guys. Harris and WHOEVER read your posts will greatly benefit if they heed and apply all those many years of experience. You reall lucky Harris, as you don't have to make as many mistakes as we have, LOL.Well its one thing to be advised, its another to actually be in the warzone. With a mix of alcohol, these girls can do some amazing magic tricks. He may still get wounded but hopefully he will learn a lot faster.
Member #4713
03-07-12, 18:43
Thanks for posting guys. Harris and WHOEVER read your posts will greatly benefit if they heed and apply all those many years of experience. You reall lucky Harris, as you don't have to make as many mistakes as we have, LOL.Thanks guys. Just wish I knew about this site earlier. I was one of those guys buying drinks, being the nice guy and hoping that I get something. Not anymore, game on. I going type up a one page summary of all the things to remember before going to one of these bars and give them to all my friends as required reading. Seriously, the few times I went before it was like walking into a gunfight with a water pistol. Actually, was like walking into one fight and I never even know was one fight. Honey, buy me drink - $20 (body blow), honey I can have one more - $20 (crack to the head), honey I nice to you one more please - $20 (one more to the head). All dazed, ho what's going on? Unless you learn the hard way or have someone knowledgeable to guide you along, you have no clue how these girls think and how to act so that you don't get raked over the coals. By the way, is it $5 per beer nowadays? Wasn't it only like $2 not too long ago?
Thanks guys. Just wish I knew about this site earlier. I was one of those guys buying drinks, being the nice guy and hoping that I get something. Not anymore, game on. I going type up a one page summary of all the things to remember before going to one of these bars and give them to all my friends as required reading. Seriously, the few times I went before it was like walking into a gunfight with a water pistol. Actually, was like walking into one fight and I never even know was one fight. Honey, buy me drink - $20 (body blow), honey I can have one more - $20 (crack to the head), honey I nice to you one more please - $20 (one more to the head). All dazed, ho what's going on? Unless you learn the hard way or have someone knowledgeable to guide you along, you have no clue how these girls think and how to act so that you don't get raked over the coals. By the way, is it $5 per beer nowadays? Wasn't it only like $2 not too long ago?Kalihi 50cents cheaper. Happy hour till 7pm except Camelot AFAIK. Must be you drink imported? Or did you get robbed on beer too? LOL.
Well its one thing to be advised, its another to actually be in the warzone. With a mix of alcohol, these girls can do some amazing magic tricks. He may still get wounded but hopefully he will learn a lot faster.Yeah. It's like reading a drivers license book but, it's different when you actually drive the car and take the road test. It's easier said than done because you're not under pressure and temptation. But, at least you have a better piece of mind on what to expect when and if it does happen. I shouldn't say if as it's likely to happen.
Like Mobius said earlier, have the ability to think on ones feet. Be able to adapt to the situation and use good common sense. Since BGs and women like to assume things, do the same and just assume that what you heard and read on other peoples experiences, just assume already that it will likely happen to you to. So, don't be so surprised if it does happen.
Uki thinks: "Watch I bet she's going to ask for the next drink any minute now"
BG: "Hunnee, one more drink (face pouting)"
Uki thinks: "See. I knew it"
By the way, is it $5 per beer nowadays? Wasn't it only like $2 not too long ago?Ummm, pretty much domestic beers in town are like 3 bucks. What do you drink usually?
When I do decide on hards, I NEVER order it from the table unless I know my hostess (or the local bartender) well enough to know she will not let me get shorted on the drink. Normally I order at the bar where I can see what the bartendress (especially if she is really a hostess) is doing. I find that by watching like a hawk they tend to be generous when pouring into the glass.
Actually come to think of it I prefer to order my own because as has been reported here, sometimes they give you a beer that was already opened.
Not to add to the many factors; just thought I'd mention it. As a general axiom, they can and will screw you any way they can; when you find exceptions, count yourself lucky.
BTW stick with cash (use denominations that minimize the amount of change you're supposed to get and use 20's, not 50's or 100's, for her drink, to avoid 'misunderstandings' and multi-drink surprises) especially if you've got one nagging you to "Use kredet kahd hunney!".
Good luck,
H M
She likes it 50/50. Not too strong but, not too weak. A whole glass of Tequila shot is too strong. It's like a guy being overly needy / desperate or aggressively perverted. But, if the drink is too watered down, she doesn't feel anything also. He's too passive and mellow to affect her and turn her on mentally, emotionally and sexually. Have the drink be 50/50, she not sure if the guy is really bad boy or a nice guy because you giving her both at a pretty even level. One is not overwhelming the other. But, at times, you can change it and be 70/30 bad or be 30/70 nice. It will vary from time to time. This keeps her guessing.
BG: "Hmm, I wonder, is he going to be 70/30 bad boy or 80/20 nice guy tonight? Last night, he was 60/40 nice guy. The night before that he was 90/10 bad!"
LOL.
She likes it 50/50. Not too strong but, not too weak. A whole glass of Tequila shot is too strong. It's like a guy being overly needy / desperate or aggressively perverted. But, if the drink is too watered down, she doesn't feel anything also. He's too passive and mellow to affect her and turn her on mentally, emotionally and sexually. Have the drink be 50/50, she not sure if the guy is really bad boy or a nice guy because you giving her both at a pretty even level. One is not overwhelming the other. But, at times, you can change it and be 70/30 bad or be 30/70 nice. It will vary from time to time. This keeps her guessing.
BG: "Hmm, I wonder, is he going to be 70/30 bad boy or 80/20 nice guy tonight? Last night, he was 60/40 nice guy. The night before that he was 90/10 bad!"
LOL.Try this, Harris. When the girl wants a drink, ask her what she's drinking. If it is a shot, tell her you want the same. When it gets there, swap shots with her. If it is fake (which it will be, but looks / smells real) tell her why bring the fake stuff. This will put her on notice. If she stays, she'll her drunk. If she bails, good riddance. As others have said. 2nd shift is usually the better time to go as the girls will already be a little liquored up.
BTW stick with cash (use denominations that minimize the amount of change you're supposed to get and use 20's, not 50's or 100's, for her drink, to avoid 'misunderstandings' and multi-drink surprises) especially if you've got one nagging you to "Use kredet kahd hunney!".
Good luck,
H MYup. Never use CC. They'll find a way to try and tack on extra things on it because they feel you're not going take the time to add things up and calculate. This has happened to my friends who used CC. With cash, if you come in with say 200, you can better keep track of it as you know how much money you're left with. Plus, you can also set a spending limit. Going ATM or using CC is not an option.
There will be times where the BG will say: "Hunnee, get ATM machine over there"
Like Mobius just mentioned, always try and give her a 20 dollar bill for her drink. If you give her 50 or 100, she'll try and hold onto the change and see if you make a say on it. If not, she scored your change. Also, the BG may work with the bartender and have him / her give her your change for the drink you bought. Then, you'll notice the change you got back from buying that beer was small.
Try this, Harris. When the girl wants a drink, ask her what she's drinking. If it is a shot, tell her you want the same. When it gets there, swap shots with her. If it is fake (which it will be, but looks / smells real) tell her why bring the fake stuff. This will put her on notice. If she stays, she'll her drunk. If she bails, good riddance. As others have said. 2nd shift is usually the better time to go as the girls will already be a little liquored up.If she brings the watered down shots and admits it, put her on the spot:
You: "Ok, fine you get your watered down shots. I don't care"
BG: "Really hunnee? You don't mind?"
You: "Yah, I don't mind. But, I guess you won't mind also that I kiss you, grab your boobs and squeeze that ass to?"
BG: "Hunnee, I go and grab the real shot"
LOL.
Again, good info from our resident Sages JR, Mobi and Uki regarding drinks. Don't worry about information overload Harris bro, you'll do fine. Just enjoy the bar how you want to enjoy it and play YOUR game. You were SMART to ask for advice which most guys don't and their loss. However, I know there are a lot of guys reading with great interest because they want the info BADLY, LOL. Its the silent majority. They never post but check for info. Don't feel pressure that you got to do this or that or get play from a KBG etc. It might take several visits before you find a good one anyway. Of course there's always ALOHA KB TOURS, LOL. Guaranteed satisfaction!
Yup. Never use CC. They'll find a way to try and tack on extra things on it because they feel you're not going take the time to add things up and calculate. This has happened to my friends who used CC. With cash, if you come in with say 200, you can better keep track of it as you know how much money you're left with. Plus, you can also set a spending limit. Going ATM or using CC is not an option.
There will be times where the BG will say: "Hunnee, get ATM machine over there"
Like Mobius just mentioned, always try and give her a 20 dollar bill for her drink. If you give her 50 or 100, she'll try and hold onto the change and see if you make a say on it. If not, she scored your change. Also, the BG may work with the bartender and have him / her give her your change for the drink you bought. Then, you'll notice the change you got back from buying that beer was small.There is an easy way to keep track surreptitiously when using a credit card. If you wear a divers watch, just rotate the indicator 1 hour. It helps if you have a bi-directional bezel, but if it is uni-directional, just go from 12-11-10-9-8-7.
By the way, is it $5 per beer nowadays? Wasn't it only like $2 not too long ago?If you are at a 4 am place domestics raise to 5 after 2 am.
A hot BGs outlook is she knows most men want & desire her, she feels she can be like that because she has that working in her favor. The men that compliment, look, gawk and drool at her only validates and confirms to herself that she is desirable. She pictures herself as an expensive luxury / sports car that people want to look at, admire and purchase. It's that reassurance, for her to admit and say that she really is hot material.
BG: "I am hot! I must be. Look, the men be after me for some reason right? I'm not going to just consider anyone if I know most guys would throw themselves at me automatically. If you're rich and have alot of money to buy any car, why would you settle for an average car when you have the money to buy that dream car? It's similar to how my outlook is with wanting a man. Cmon, for nothing I doll myself up and look sexy if I'm just going to settle for the average Joe right? You want to utilize and take advantage of what you have and possess. I should take advantage of it as much possible while I'm still young and look good. When I get older, been there done that, been screwed by guys, been to places, been spoiled materialistically and then used and broken hearted, maybe then I eventually wake up later on and settle for Mr nice guy. I guess you can say I partied up my youthful years and now it's time to move on and finally settle down"
[QUOTE=Uki Eater; 1399190]A hot BGs outlook is she knows most men want & desire her, she feels she can be like that because she has that working in her favor. The men that compliment, look, gawk and drool at her only validates and confirms to herself that she is desirable. She pictures herself as an expensive luxury / sports car that people want to look at, admire and purchase. It's that reassurance, for her to admit and say that she really is hot material.
BG: "I am hot! I must be. Look, the men be after me for some reason right? I'm not going to just consider anyone if I know most guys would throw themselves at me automatically. If you're rich and have alot of money to buy any car, why would you settle for an average car when you have the money to buy that dream car? It's similar to how my outlook is with wanting a man. Cmon, for nothing I doll myself up and look sexy if I'm just going to settle for the average Joe right? You want to utilize and take advantage of what you have and possess. I should take advantage of it as much possible while I'm still young and look good. When I get older, been there done that, been screwed by guys, been to places, been spoiled materialistically and then used and broken hearted, maybe then I eventually wake up later on and settle for Mr nice guy. I guess you can say I partied up my youthful years and now it's time to move on and finally settle down"[/QUOTE.
That's what I see and its smart on their part to maximize making the most money with the least effort. They can control those grampas and table hop, while all those old LVBs just want a little attention of some kind. When I say older customers, I mean past retirement age guys, LOL. Actually, I don't see that many hotties nowdays. Even the average looking chunky KBGs act princessy nowdays because LVBs spoil them, LOL.
There is an easy way to keep track surreptitiously when using a credit card. If you wear a divers watch, just rotate the indicator 1 hour. It helps if you have a bi-directional bezel, but if it is uni-directional, just go from 12-11-10-9-8-7.No disrespect intended, but, this technique is pretty much a non-starter. You say "my watch says it was 10 drinks" and they say "it was 12". So what's going to happen? I totally disagree (and totally from my own stoopit experience) with running a tab. Pay as you go and you don't need to remember to twist the watch, move a bead from right pocket to left, draw ink lines on your arm, or whatever. Bottom line is that tabs are trouble. But that's just me talkin'.
Ss
Incogfilipino
03-09-12, 02:45
A hot BGs outlook is she knows most men want & desire her, she feels she can be like that because she has that working in her favor. The men that compliment, look, gawk and drool at her only validates and confirms to herself that she is desirable. She pictures herself as an expensive luxury / sports car that people want to look at, admire and purchase. It's that reassurance, for her to admit and say that she really is hot material.
BG: "I am hot! I must be. Look, the men be after me for some reason right? I'm not going to just consider anyone if I know most guys would throw themselves at me automatically. If you're rich and have alot of money to buy any car, why would you settle for an average car when you have the money to buy that dream car? It's similar to how my outlook is with wanting a man. Cmon, for nothing I doll myself up and look sexy if I'm just going to settle for the average Joe right? You want to utilize and take advantage of what you have and possess. I should take advantage of it as much possible while I'm still young and look good. When I get older, been there done that, been screwed by guys, been to places, been spoiled materialistically and then used and broken hearted, maybe then I eventually wake up later on and settle for Mr nice guy. I guess you can say I partied up my youthful years and now it's time to move on and finally settle down"I completely agree with you. That's just how young girls tend to act though, even when they aren't hot enough to think that way. Especially BGs, since there will always be a sucker around who is willing to spoil them.
That's just how young girls tend to act though, even when they aren't hot enough to think that way. Especially BGs, since there will always be a sucker around who is willing to spoil them.No matter how bussup the KBG, always going get certain guys chasing them. It's a phenomenon called 'Cocked-eye, Reverse Admiring Putz' (CRAP) ; their tastes in KBGs are distorted and blurred; a pre-LVB symptom leading to the full-blown DKBG disease. They're the ones who create and keep the KBGs sassy and 'princessy' by buying nekos until they broke ass and kissing ass. And still get no respect.
No disrespect intended, but, this technique is pretty much a non-starter. You say "my watch says it was 10 drinks" and they say "it was 12". So what's going to happen? I totally disagree (and totally from my own stoopit experience) with running a tab. Pay as you go and you don't need to remember to twist the watch, move a bead from right pocket to left, draw ink lines on your arm, or whatever. Bottom line is that tabs are trouble. But that's just me talkin'.
SsThats where you have to be strong hearted and fight for what you know is right. You may have to resort to dealing with the CC company. In the end this all maybe too much of a headache for some but hell this hobby is just a headache.
There is an easy way to keep track surreptitiously when using a credit card. If you wear a divers watch, just rotate the indicator 1 hour. It helps if you have a bi-directional bezel, but if it is uni-directional, just go from 12-11-10-9-8-7.I doubt most guys will be doing that though. They'll use CC because they don't have enough loot on them. Plus, they don't want to worry about running low and having to pull out again. Kill joy. In the heat of the moment, they won't be doing this.
"Ok, that's 3 x soju bottles right there. That's like about 450, she got about 6 x shots at 20 bucks each. Hmm, what else?"
He won't be doing this. Once the tab is totalled and he's about to sign.
"What! That much? Cannot be!"
LOL.
I agree with SS and others on pay as you go no CC / tab as the smart way to go at KBs for sure. However, I tend to think JR was mostly referring to "if you happen to be in that situation of using CCs" rather than advocating its use. Besides, I think JR might be like my high rolla friends that just can't be bothered when they are in the mood to hit the hostess bars. For them. 1k is like 10bucks to us thifty shoppers that go Walmart and Longs instead of Tiffanys etc, LOL. To give you an example, I sometimes go with my friends from asia and here and they never EVER sat at the bar or booths while I serve as garut hostess bar Tour Guide in the rooms, LOL. They may decide at the spur of the moment to go and they don't want to waste "their time" dealing with me getting 20s and "wasting time" etc. JR can also probably handle the situation with his assertiveness, intelligence, experience and discipline that probably most guys can't. He may play another game and in a different league than us mere mortals. For example, I'd never buy 2 bottles of bubblys (600bucks) to "teach the KBG a lesson", but for him, it may be worth it. Its all relative. He's given us a lot of good intel / advice on KBGs after many years of experience, (my guess is with a lot of trophy BGs) so I try to see it from his perspective when I disagree on something. BTW, I have a hostess bar wallet that I put X amount for the night with NO CCs of any kind and when the cash runs out, too bad, that's it for the night. That guarantees you will never spend more than your intended amount in case you get too stupit or drunk. Just my $3. 49cents worth.
No matter how bussup the KBG, always going get certain guys chasing them. It's a phenomenon called 'Cocked-eye, Reverse Admiring Putz' (CRAP) ; their tastes in KBGs are distorted and blurred; a pre-LVB symptom leading to the full-blown DKBG disease. They're the ones who create and keep the KBGs sassy and 'princessy' by buying nekos until they broke ass and kissing ass. And still get no respect.I have noticed that and always wondered if those guys mental or what? Yes, even the downright ugly / fat ones got fans, LOL. The KBs are a strange world, LOL.
I have noticed that and always wondered if those guys mental or what? Yes, even the downright ugly / fat ones got fans, LOL. The KBs are a strange world, LOL.It's a strange, dysfunctional, & distorted world in KB Wonderland. OK for passing through; don't get lost in the smoke, riddles, and promises like the LVBs.
I agree with SS and others on pay as you go no CC / tab as the smart way to go at KBs for sure. However, I tend to think JR was mostly referring to "if you happen to be in that situation of using CCs" rather than advocating its use. Besides, I think JR might be like my high rolla friends that just can't be bothered when they are in the mood to hit the hostess bars. For them. 1k is like 10bucks to us thifty shoppers that go Walmart and Longs instead of Tiffanys etc, LOL. To give you an example, I sometimes go with my friends from asia and here and they never EVER sat at the bar or booths while I serve as garut hostess bar Tour Guide in the rooms, LOL. They may decide at the spur of the moment to go and they don't want to waste "their time" dealing with me getting 20s and "wasting time" etc. JR can also probably handle the situation with his assertiveness, intelligence, experience and discipline that probably most guys can't. He may play another game and in a different league than us mere mortals. For example, I'd never buy 2 bottles of bubblys (600bucks) to "teach the KBG a lesson", but for him, it may be worth it. Its all relative. He's given us a lot of good intel / advice on KBGs after many years of experience, (my guess is with a lot of trophy BGs) so I try to see it from his perspective when I disagree on something. BTW, I have a hostess bar wallet that I put X amount for the night with NO CCs of any kind and when the cash runs out, too bad, that's it for the night. That guarantees you will never spend more than your intended amount in case you get too stupit or drunk. Just my $3. 49cents worth.I'm a normal guy just like all of you, but as you said, you need to learn to assert yourself. Many years ago, I used to count the drinks by using my watch and when the tab came, there was a few additional drinks. I asked to speak to the mama regarding the discrepancy and she removed the extra drinks from the tab. The funny thing is this happened in Kalihi, but never in Keeaumoku. Most local guys don't want to make a scene so they almost never say anything about the bill. However, if you have watched Korean guys when the tab comes, they complain all the time and the bill gets reduced. Just stand your ground.
One thing I don't advocate doing is using a cc chargeback, if you frequent the bars. I once did a chargeback as my statement came and I never even heard of this bar I was charged from. It turns out, the bar changed names recently and was using the old bar's cc account. The cc sent me the papers regarding the chargeback, then the girl from the bar calls me about it. I told her, I didn't know it was that bar as the names didn't match. I called the cc and told them it was a valid charge as the place changed names recently. Next time you charge a tab, look at it, the charge slip has the girls name on it as she's responsible for it. If you frequent the bar, just talk to mama about the bill instead of doing a chargeback. That way you are still in the good graces of the mamas.
It's a strange, dysfunctional, & distorted world in KB Wonderland. OK for passing through; don't get lost in the smoke, riddles, and promises like the LVBs.I guess it can be fun and interesting because of the drama that happens. These days, I don't mind the games and tactics they try and pull. I get amused and laugh at it. Plus, you get to see their facial reaction when you do a comeback as they think you're a typical easy to take advantage type customer. It's quite funny when they pause and rethink on what they'll say. Some just don't bother and just leave. Don't let the BGs intimidate and make you nervous. They should be nervous of you. Put the challenge on them to see if they can get you to buy them a drink. That's how it should be.
"Can I get a drink?" Beep! Fail. Too early and direct.
"Hunnee, *pouting* 1 more drink?" Beep! Fail. Sound desperate.
"1 last good luck drink?" Beep! Fail. Tired of that line already.
Just like the LVBs, BGs are becoming quite the cliche that it has become boring. SOS.
Its all relative. BTW, I have a hostess bar wallet that I put X amount for the night with NO CCs of any kind and when the cash runs out, too bad, that's it for the night. That guarantees you will never spend more than your intended amount in case you get too stupit or drunk. Just my $3. 49cents worth.True indeed its all relative (referring to the cost of KBG's). Used to have friends in from Japan that would ask me to take them to a Japanese hostess bar whenever they came to Hawaii (go figure).4 guys would hand over $2k (this was in the eighties). They'd say "let us know when you need more". To the back room they'd go and party. I was the driver / tab keeper.
While there are a few of those guys still around, from observation, I would think most of the troops are just your basic average wage earner. My intent was for the newbies who may be reading this and curious. I still stand by "No Tab" and "NO CC". I like Oldee's idea of having a hostess bar wallet. That's good advice! No bank machine cards, no cc, etc. Not only does it keep you to your original intentions of expenditure, it also protects you from when you're all buss up / stupid and forget to take your pants with yah after boning some young lovely! LOL.
Ss
Tired of that line already. Just like the LVBs, BGs are becoming quite the cliche that it has become boring. SOS.The KBs were a popular novelty but it was the KBGs who were notorious and changed our local culture, IMO. After almost 45 years of patronizing the KBs I can say that it changed me (without going through the details).
"Those were the days" relates to the fondness of the KBs back then;"Good riddance" will be the response once this pariah is finally gone. In the meantime,"Tired already; boring and SOS" is the attitude although there are some outrageous happenings with the younger set going on at other clubs and venues; playing with danger and hoping for the best, I guess.
I like Oldee's idea of having a hostess bar wallet. That's good advice! No bank machine cards, no cc, etc. SsTried various ways to control spending at the KBs in the past; all never work because no more discipline. The KBs and KBGs gave me all forms of credit when I asked (all bussup). Never need any cards, checks, whatever. The only thing that works for me is discipline, which means controlling the intake and temptations (they go hand-in-hand). Easy to talk but not easy to do for me in the past!
Alot of us guys have a hard time being assertive which is a combination of being nice, at the same time being firm in getting the message across. They lean too much on 1 side. They're either too nice that they allow themselves to be taken advantage of or, too offensive that they get emotionally frustrated and display their temper. Be in between that. Most guys lean on the nice side too much. Too much pride in them too look bad and they fear the outcome of what the BGs reaction will be if they were to be firm with them. When you display hesitation and you're thinking too long, she feels she can overtake and convince you otherwise. You aren't quick in your decision to automatically say no. When you're quick in saying no, the BGs know they'll have a hard time trying to convince you to say yes. They giveup quickly because they know you're firm and adamant with your decision.
No shame. Just man up to saying no. She's not going to do anything but, walk away and try to find another customer. You don't see BGs feeling bad for you after you spent so much on them. Right?
BG thinks: "Shucks. I feel so bad that he spent that much on me. I should have at least let him grab my tits or kiss him"
You think she's going to be thinking this and feel guilty? Nope!
But, when you initiate the move on her, she'll just give in and let it slide.
BG thinks: "Meh, what the hell, he spent alot on me already. I'll let him grab my boobs at least"
Tried various ways to control spending at the KBs in the past; all never work because no more discipline. The KBs and KBGs gave me all forms of credit when I asked (all bussup). Never need any cards, checks, whatever. The only thing that works for me is discipline, which means controlling the intake and temptations (they go hand-in-hand). Easy to talk but not easy to do for me in the past!Yes discipline is learning to say no and you can't say no when your drunk. But just remember that there's always going to be another LVB that's going to spend more money.
Yes discipline is learning to say no and you can't say no when your drunk. But just remember that there's always going to be another LVB that's going to spend more money.Back when I was new to bars, girls would help me make up my mind if I was hedging, or even change my mind when I gave a firm "No" for another drink.
What they did was lift or drop their top and put their jugs in my face, or lift or drop their skirt/panty, roll onto one hip, put one hand behind my neck to pull me down, and show me their butt and muffin.
Luckily I never find myself in those situations anymore as most of today's Koreamoku girls would never 'work' that hard :).
Back when I was new to bars, girls would help me make up my mind if I was hedging, or even change my mind when I gave a firm "No" for another drink.
What they did was lift or drop their top and put their jugs in my face, or lift or drop their skirt / panty, roll onto one hip, put one hand behind my neck to pull me down, and show me their butt and muffin.
Luckily I never find myself in those situations anymore as most of today's Koreamoku girls would never 'work' that hard.I'm not surprised if they already made a "Buy Me Drinkie" App for the iPhone and Android phones by now. BGs need a drink, she just run the app and she gets her 20 dollar shot. No need a customer to sit next to her. It will automatically detect and read a customers credit / debit card from the customers wallet and charges it. Customer receives his CC statement and he notices choke charges on it. Fucked up! She can also upgrade and purchase the "Buy Me Champagne" app for only 1. 99 Seems like this is where KBs are heading to already. You see a BG on her phone, I advise you contact your bank / CC company right away. Hehe
BTW, I hope no one actually falls for this.
Like SS and other playgirl hunters, I usually visit several KBs on my excursions. This ensures you get to see the variety of choices available or not at any given night as talent constantly changes and moves. Also, there is the right time with right girl factor. The more bars you hit, the better your chances with that. A LOT of you just go 1 or 2 bars a night hoping to get lucky. Some of you may even have a 'home base KB', its the bar you go most often and rarely visit other bars because you feel 'comfortable' there. Yeah, the regulars, LOL. NO? How many different bars you went this year? If you haven't been most of koreamoku this year and you a town drinker, you probably a regular someplace, LOL. Regular don't mean every night or even weekly, it just means you usually go THAT bar when you go. Same with Kalihi. Also, you LEARN MORE going more bars, intel / other info. I see guys planning to hit only couple bars thinking that its ok. Nope, check the whole BUFFET LINE if you want better chances.
I'm not surprised if they already made a "Buy Me Drinkie" App for the iPhone and Android phones by now. BGs need a drink, she just run the app and she gets her 20 dollar shot. No need a customer to sit next to her. It will automatically detect and read a customers credit / debit card from the customers wallet and charges it. Customer receives his CC statement and he notices choke charges on it. Fucked up! She can also upgrade and purchase the "Buy Me Champagne" app for only 1. 99 Seems like this is where KBs are heading to already. You see a BG on her phone, I advise you contact your bank / CC company right away. Hehe.
BTW, I hope no one actually falls for this.Don't forget some of us are not tech savy so don't know about iPhones, Androids, etc. LOL. No make me scad bro, LOL. Actually, KBGs already get the garans "Buy Me Drink" App. Its called: Hi, hunnee, can you stop by tonight? TEXT. Whenever they want neko, they text stuff like: I miss you, Have a nice day, Can I see you tonight? Etc etc. LOL. That's why I tell KBGs I no mo SMART phone, I get STUPID phone no take text msg or non work calls, LOL. From way back in the day, I have NEVER needed to to call a KBG to tell her I coming. If she busy, try different girl or go second shift. If a KBG got your cell phone number, Oldee going think you one LVB, LOL. Its ok, a lot of my friends told KBGs thier numbers, good fun tease them when they get texts, LOL.
Captin Crunch
03-12-12, 23:57
Like SS and other playgirl hunters, I usually visit several KBs on my excursions. This ensures you get to see the variety of choices available or not at any given night as talent constantly changes and moves. Also, there is the right time with right girl factor. The more bars you hit, the better your chances with that. A LOT of you just go 1 or 2 bars a night hoping to get lucky. Some of you may even have a 'home base KB', its the bar you go most often and rarely visit other bars because you feel 'comfortable' there. Yeah, the regulars, LOL. NO? How many different bars you went this year? If you haven't been most of koreamoku this year and you a town drinker, you probably a regular someplace, LOL. Regular don't mean every night or even weekly, it just means you usually go THAT bar when you go. Same with Kalihi. Also, you LEARN MORE going more bars, intel / other info. I see guys planning to hit only couple bars thinking that its ok. Nope, check the whole BUFFET LINE if you want better chances.Oldee, you must be a solo hunter. Going in groups probably slows you down.
Oldee, you must be a solo hunter. Going in groups probably slows you down.Which is better? Going solo or have a friend along. To my opinion both have its pros / cons. Rite!
Captin Crunch
03-13-12, 03:18
Which is better? Going solo or have a friend along. To my opinion both have its pros / cons. Rite!When you go to window shop or just drink, better to go in a group. When you like play, you got to go by yourself.
Oldee, you must be a solo hunter. Going in groups probably slows you down.You must be a solo hunter too ah MM? LOL. Actually going with friends sometimes help meeting more choices and sometimes get in the way so its a wash. The important thing is check all over when you hunt. You can walk to most town bars within minutes of each other.
Are you PFN? I just wanted to clarify that since reading HM's tommorrow report and that molesting guy. PFN is NOT forceful molesting. Sometimes I see that and shake my head when get those fo real pervs. They can't or won't read body language along with facial expressions of disgust. Most of us with half a brain can tell the for real no and no because I like get more neko no. However, some guys just downright no class. Thats why a lot of KBGs hate men. Just wanted to remind you new to KB guys that you still got to respect the NO if and when you get play. In other words get as much play as you can but no molest / rape the girl. However, if the girl like rape YOU, CALL ME, I will come save you and take your place.
Are you PFN? I just wanted to clarify that since reading HM's tommorrow report and that molesting guy. PFN is NOT forceful molesting. Sometimes I see that and shake my head when get those fo real pervs. They can't or won't read body language along with facial expressions of disgust. Most of us with half a brain can tell the for real no and no because I like get more neko no. However, some guys just downright no class. Thats why a lot of KBGs hate men. Just wanted to remind you new to KB guys that you still got to respect the NO if and when you get play. In other words get as much play as you can but no molest / rape the girl. However, if the girl like rape YOU, CALL ME, I will come save you and take your place.Yah. The PFN doesn't come across as blatant and offensive. Some guys out there can be really aggressive on a KBG. Too much actually. Goodness, they maybe BGs and in it for the money but, at least show some class. It's too much that it's irritating them and being disrespectful. Plus, some can talk nasty shit right off the bat. It just further tarnishes and taints the outlook these women have on men when guys be doing that.
Any members here ever got caught with a paternity suit angle? Long story short my friend thinks he knocked up a kbg and she is threatening him with litigation. Hes not even sure its his, he sent her money but she keeps asking for more and more and more. Guess that the dangers of BB.
Yah. The PFN doesn't come across as blatant and offensive. Some guys out there can be really aggressive on a KBG. Too much actually.Some guys spend so much time in the KBs and dealing with KBGs that they carry this behavior to civilian places, too. They have lost their sense of where they are and how to behave in normal environments. It's the opposite of how new guys who patronize the KBs and deal with KBGs are shocked by the barbarians within. Good fun watching the bewildered faces of new guys.
The old adage applies: there's a time and a place for everything; use the appropriate behavior. Good fun watching the classless guys, though.
Hes not even sure its his, he sent her money but she keeps asking for more and more and more.I'm sure other factors exist but, when in doubt (and being reamed) , stand and fight. Extortion, fraud, and harrassment are against the law.
Any members here ever got caught with a paternity suit angle? Long story short my friend thinks he knocked up a kbg and she is threatening him with litigation. Hes not even sure its his, he sent her money but she keeps asking for more and more and more. Guess that the dangers of BB.There used to be a place in Century Square in downtown that did such testing, among other things. Sorry I forgot their name. I don't know if they're still there as I've noticed that some medical practices are moving into the newest buildings. Next time you partake in an MT there, you could peruse the building's Directory. Or he could consult with his doctor.
Are you PFN? I just wanted to clarify that since reading HM's tommorrow report and that molesting guy. PFN is NOT forceful molesting. Sometimes I see that and shake my head when get those fo real pervs. They can't or won't read body language along with facial expressions of disgust. Most of us with half a brain can tell the for real no and no because I like get more neko no. However, some guys just downright no class. Thats why a lot of KBGs hate men. Just wanted to remind you new to KB guys that you still got to respect the NO if and when you get play. In other words get as much play as you can but no molest / rape the girl. However, if the girl like rape YOU, CALL ME, I will come save you and take your place.Amen Oldee, new guys got to know that the same law (s) applies inside or outside of a KB bar. IF the KBG wanted to push things, a fellow might find himself in a whole lot of trouble. You really need to read the situation. If the KBG says NO in an agressive manner towards you, well, it means NO. Move on if you no like, or, STOP the action that caused the NO. She may grab your hand and pull it away from the where ever it was headed. That is a message of NO. Now, I might add that it may be a message of "too soon","we just met and you haven't paid me enough yet", it kind of depends so you have got to read it right. Yes, you are buying her time with your drinkee money spending, however, you are NOT buying the right to molest her. If you don't like the "service" you're getting, stop buying her time and move on. Or, back off for awhile to get a better read on the situation. Perhaps, not this time, but, maybe after establishing yourself with the KBG at a later time you'll get more play. Of course, a KBG will like that approach and if you have the time and money, you too can be a lvrb. In a sense, we're all lvrbs with the exception being the guys who are purely spectators. It's just that our expectations vary.
Imagine being in some "civilian" bar and you're playing grab-ass with some "normal" girl you just met. If she said a serious NO, what would you do? Oh, BTW, if a girl is so drunk that she is unable to say NO, and you take her somewhere to "have your way" with her, well gents that is legally covered too. It's called rape. Just sayin' my opinion which I think ALL regulars know. For the newbs just remind yourself the money you spend in a KB does not give you any special rights. That, I think, is what the collateral information found in the forum is all about. Keeping the fun going, and keeping us out of trouble. I'll be the first in line for working the "edge", but, I do know there is an "edge" with every KBG (and it is variable). I guess, for me at least, a successful foray is one that ends with both parties agreeing that we had a lot of fun.
Ss
Are you PFN? I just wanted to clarify that since reading HM's tommorrow report and that molesting guy. PFN is NOT forceful molesting. Sometimes I see that and shake my head when get those fo real pervs. They can't or won't read body language along with facial expressions of disgust. Most of us with half a brain can tell the for real no and no because I like get more neko no. However, some guys just downright no class. Thats why a lot of KBGs hate men. Just wanted to remind you new to KB guys that you still got to respect the NO if and when you get play. In other words get as much play as you can but no molest / rape the girl. However, if the girl like rape YOU, CALL ME, I will come save you and take your place.No matter what you think of a KBG she still has rights like any other girl. As SS said just because she works in the bar that doesn't mean spending money gives you the right to do anything you want. No always means no.
When I go to the bars, I see MOST guys WAITING for something to happen, especially if they sitting with a KBG. Even the long time KB vets waiting and hoping. Guess what? They going wait forever for nothing. They will be treated as LVBs whether they are or not because they DONT let the KBG know what they want, either verbally or with body language. KBGs KNOW this so will make you wait forever as long as you keep buying drinks. Sometimes I get pms from guys who are regulars of so and so KBG asking if she plays. I answer, not with YOU, LOL. Therefore my friends, IF you want it, YOU have to make it happen. Disclaimer- the above may not apply at Kools and Blue sea, LOL.
No always means no? The biggest fucking BS I have heard.
Think about it?
Really really really think about it and now turn it fucking around!
CK
No matter what you think of a KBG she still has rights like any other girl. As SS said just because she works in the bar that doesn't mean spending money gives you the right to do anything you want. No always means no.
When I go to the bars, I see MOST guys WAITING for something to happen, especially if they sitting with a KBG. Even the long time KB vets waiting and hoping. Guess what? They going wait forever for nothing. They will be treated as LVBs whether they are or not because they DONT let the KBG know what they want, either verbally or with body language. KBGs KNOW this so will make you wait forever as long as you keep buying drinks. Sometimes I get pms from guys who are regulars of so and so KBG asking if she plays. I answer, not with YOU, LOL. Therefore my friends, IF you want it, YOU have to make it happen. Disclaimer- the above may not apply at Kools and Blue sea, LOL.LOL Mr. Oldee, great one on the disclaimer!
I still believe that no means no if yah know what I mean. A laughing no ain't a NO necessarily, IMHO. A serious NO! Best be listened to. If a KBG where to tell me NO (the serious one) well I would be on my way cause she was usually pre-warned or at minimum she ain't going to be any fun with me, so color me gone. Plus I don't just start off by grabbing (well usually I don't LOL). I actually do take it slow and wait at least a few minutes. LOL
I agree again with your other point, does this or that KBG play, well, it depends. I wouldn't say all KBG's play with all guys, however, I would say that all KBG's play with some guys (yah I know there are some lesbo's out there but thats nitpicking). It just a matter of negotiations / game. Like the old saying goes,"We've already established what you are, we're just negotiating the price now" LOL. Course this could pretty much be true of "civilians" as well. I remember a time back in the eighties that I was at the Wave. Talking to a girl, making my "case" and up comes another guy (who she knew). He says to her "Hey I just bought a new RX7". She was impressed and then turned to me and asked "what kind of car do you drive?" and I immediately told her I drive a 1972 Datsun (with a big shiteating grin). Just by her question, I had lost interest in her. Pretty much figured I'm not going to compete on a how-much-money-I-got level. Oh, I failed to mention to her that, at that time, I had enough cash to buy 7 RX7ens and have personalized plates that read Sunday thru Saturday and the only thing holding me back was my house that I owned didn't have a 7 car garage. If she was more interested in another guy cause he had a new car payment so be it. Been playing it that way for a long time. I just don't get into trying to "buy love" in a KB. In a KB you're going to be always out-spent. So why bother to compete on that level? I prefer to attack with game. Make 'them laugh, have a good time, and keep a handle on the situation. If you're not having any success at whatever you're there for, well, move on cause there's plenty more to be had.
"If I don't buy her enough drinkees she's not going to love me anymore". Screw that!
I'm SS and I approve this message.
No always means no? The biggest fucking BS I have heard.
Think about it?
Really really really think about it and now turn it fucking around!
CKLOL, I don't want to speak for JJ but I'm sure he meant when she 'seriously mean NO', not the neko negociations kind. Actually, crazy guys might misinterpret your post too to mean can ignore the NO. Remember, these posts were mostly meant for guys that MAY NOT know the score, not neccerarily vet guys like you. Yes, GET crazy guys that think its OK to rape bgs just because they bgs. Thats why I'd explain instead of ask them to think, some guys think more crazy the more they think. LOL. L
No always means no.
No always means no? The biggest fucking BS I have heard.
Think about it?
Really really really think about it and now turn it fucking around!
CKI think saying no for the most part should be taken as a No. So, just assume already that no means no. But, sometimes it may not be a definite no. I think it's obvious if she says no in a pretty firm tone of voice that's very direct, it really means no and and you should stop and take her seriously. But, depending on the girl and how she says no, she may say no but it may still mean a yes. She just likes to play hard to get and not appear to be easy to give in that quickly. She wants the chase so, she teases you by saying no. I think these types are more the inmature ones to play mind game and tease. They like play hard to get.
For the ones that do say no and really mean no, it should be obvious by her reaction and how she says it. She'll start to raise her voice, her tone is serious and she's literally pushing you away. It's pretty obvious by now that she really means it. Doing more won't make her change mind if she's raising her voice and pushing you away. You'll just piss her off. In this case, no really means no.
I think that's how bgs look at customers when they say no to buying a bg a drink. When a customer says no, she doesn't take his no seriously enough because it's a weak ass feminine No reply. Hehe. She feels she can still convince him to say yes. On the other hand, another guy can say no and it's more firm and direct in his No answer. She can tell he won't budge as he's more serious and definite in his answer.
I think saying no for the most part should be taken as a No. So, just assume already that no means no. But, sometimes it may not be a definite no. I think it's obvious if she says no in a pretty firm tone of voice that's very direct, it really means no and and you should stop and take her seriously. But, depending on the girl and how she says no, she may say no but it may still mean a yes. She just likes to play hard to get and not appear to be easy to give in that quickly. She wants the chase so, she teases you by saying no. I think these types are more the inmature ones to play mind game and tease. They like play hard to get.
For the ones that do say no and really mean no, it should be obvious by her reaction and how she says it. She'll start to raise her voice, her tone is serious and she's literally pushing you away. It's pretty obvious by now that she really means it. Doing more won't make her change mind if she's raising her voice and pushing you away. You'll just piss her off. In this case, no really means no.
I think that's how bgs look at customers when they say no to buying a bg a drink. When a customer says no, she doesn't take his no seriously enough because it's a weak ass feminine No reply. Hehe. She feels she can still convince him to say yes. On the other hand, another guy can say no and it's more firm and direct in his No answer. She can tell he won't budge as he's more serious and definite in his answer.Yeah, you don't want to be like Joe Pesci's character in Lethal Weapon 4, with Chris Rock's character going "What happened to your face?! NO MEANS NO!" :).
No always means no? The biggest fucking BS I have heard. Think about it? Really really really think about it and now turn it fucking around! CKBe wise and no take a chance. It's a woman's world now, legally and otherwise (whether you like it or not) , as evidenced by the media and wahine support groups; they will take action and trouble will follow. A caveman mentality will get even the innocent in trouble nowadays; proving one's innocence is timely and costly. Shaddup, reverse face, and get away as quickly and as humanly possible.
I seriously doubt that anybody can ". Turn it ficking around" and believing no "Is the biggest. Heard." Of course, IMO.
I just don't get into trying to "buy love" in a KB. In a KB you're going to be always out-spent. So why bother to compete on that level? I prefer to attack with game. Make 'them laugh, have a good time, and keep a handle on the situation. If you're not having any success at whatever you're there for, well, move on cause there's plenty more to be had.
"If I don't buy her enough drinkees she's not going to love me anymore". Screw that!
I'm SS and I approve this message.If you want garans sex, go AMP. If you want a GF / wife, try a civilian. If you want to play worse than vegas odds for sex, hostess bars MIGHT be ok if you willing to shrug off your losses and not get emotionally attached. So many guys think the bars like Camelot, Business, EG is where the action is. NOPE! That's where the LVB action is, LOL. But they got hot girls you say. So just enjoy the view for free while drinking your beer. But you say got action those bars? Been there, done that more than most guys, and can tell you its just not worth it for what you get which is mostly nothing. Exceptions? Sometimes yes, but you need to have REALLY good GAME if you don't want to spend a fortune. I hear young guys all the time saying stuff like Camelot, Business, EG etc is where you got to go to their other novice friends looking for gf / sex. I feel bad knowing they just get taken to the cleaners and never realize how to play the game."The more I buy neko the more she going to like me" mistake is at the heart of the LVB desease. At least in vegas I get chance win sometimes putting money in the slots. The KB neko slots usually never pay out if you don't have GAME.
Whenever I go bars, I see a lot of guys STRESSED OUT not enjoying themselves because of how things going with their DKBG or other reasons. They may be jealous of the other LVBs, their DKBG giving them hard time, etc. Others simply don't know how to deal with the KBGs they sitting with, not knowing what to do. Some are afraid to make a mistake and say the wrong thing to the girl. Still more get mad for whatever reason but don't leave the bar. In most cases, these guys forgot or don't know that its supposed to be FUN, relaxing and entertaining. Not getting what you want? Move on. Chill out bros. Just enjoy yourself by not expecting to get things you may not get, (play for example). Don't blame the bar, maybe you take yourself too seriously. Make fun of yourself and laugh. Set a good mood. Plenty of stuff is entertaining at KBs including watching all the LVBs throwing away money. BTW, making fun of yourself is a good game tactic, hehehe. Practice your game and learn what INTERESTS KBGs other than nekos. ADAPT as each KBG is different. Each monger is different and play to your strengths. Sometimes when sitting with KBGs, they like to stay and listen to ways of making / saving money etc which saves me money as an example. Just don't put any pressure on yourself that you got to do things a certain way to enjoy. Its YOUR money after all. There's nothing wrong with JUST relaxing and enjoying your drink for example. I find it amusing that many guys can't even handle something as simple as that, LOL. My AMP going friends are examples of this and I always tease them about how scared they are of what KBGs will do to them, LOL. I've always wondered if local style KBs could exist and strive in other cities on the mainland but don't think so because local guys got too much aloha sometimes, hehe. So bros, just go and REALLY enjoy yourselves when you go in whatever manner you wish as long as you don't hurt anyone else.
ChickenMusubi
03-16-12, 21:58
Whenever I go bars, I see a lot of guys STRESSED OUT not enjoying themselves because of how things going with their DKBG or other reasons. They may be jealous of the other LVBs, their DKBG giving them hard time, etc. Others simply don't know how to deal with the KBGs they sitting with, not knowing what to do. Some are afraid to make a mistake and say the wrong thing to the girl. Still more get mad for whatever reason but don't leave the bar. In most cases, these guys forgot or don't know that its supposed to be FUN, relaxing and entertaining. Not getting what you want? Move on. Chill out bros. Just enjoy yourself by not expecting to get things you may not get, (play for example). Don't blame the bar, maybe you take yourself too seriously. Make fun of yourself and laugh. Set a good mood. Plenty of stuff is entertaining at KBs including watching all the LVBs throwing away money. BTW, making fun of yourself is a good game tactic, hehehe. Practice your game and learn what INTERESTS KBGs other than nekos. ADAPT as each KBG is different. Each monger is different and play to your strengths. Sometimes when sitting with KBGs, they like to stay and listen to ways of making / saving money etc which saves me money as an example. Just don't put any pressure on yourself that you got to do things a certain way to enjoy. Its YOUR money after all. There's nothing wrong with JUST relaxing and enjoying your drink for example. I find it amusing that many guys can't even handle something as simple as that, LOL. My AMP going friends are examples of this and I always tease them about how scared they are of what KBGs will do to them, LOL. I've always wondered if local style KBs could exist and strive in other cities on the mainland but don't think so because local guys got too much aloha sometimes, hehe. So bros, just go and REALLY enjoy yourselves when you go in whatever manner you wish as long as you don't hurt anyone else.Oldee you got the right idea, I will take that advice.
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I just don't get into trying to "buy love" in a KB. In a KB you're going to be always out-spent. So why bother to compete on that level? I prefer to attack with game. Make 'them laugh, have a good time, and keep a handle on the situation. If you're not having any success at whatever you're there for, well, move on cause there's plenty more to be had.
"If I don't buy her enough drinkees she's not going to love me anymore". Screw that!
I'm SS and I approve this message.A lot of them don't realize all that during the moment. They get so intimidated with the girl, their tails are constantly between their legs. Then thats when she goes in for the kill and starts playing mind games. The result, he is caught on a choker and doesn't know what to think anymore.
Whenever I go bars, I see a lot of guys STRESSED OUT not enjoying themselves because of how things going with their DKBG or other reasons. They may be jealous of the other LVBs, their DKBG giving them hard time, etc. Others simply don't know how to deal with the KBGs they sitting with, not knowing what to do. Some are afraid to make a mistake and say the wrong thing to the girl. Still more get mad for whatever reason but don't leave the bar. In most cases, these guys forgot or don't know that its supposed to be FUN, relaxing and entertaining. Not getting what you want? Move on. Chill out bros. Just enjoy yourself by not expecting to get things you may not get, (play for example). Don't blame the bar, maybe you take yourself too seriously. Make fun of yourself and laugh. Set a good mood. Plenty of stuff is entertaining at KBs including watching all the LVBs throwing away money. BTW, making fun of yourself is a good game tactic, hehehe. Practice your game and learn what INTERESTS KBGs other than nekos. ADAPT as each KBG is different. Each monger is different and play to your strengths. Sometimes when sitting with KBGs, they like to stay and listen to ways of making / saving money etc which saves me money as an example. Just don't put any pressure on yourself that you got to do things a certain way to enjoy. Its YOUR money after all. There's nothing wrong with JUST relaxing and enjoying your drink for example. I find it amusing that many guys can't even handle something as simple as that, LOL. My AMP going friends are examples of this and I always tease them about how scared they are of what KBGs will do to them, LOL. I've always wondered if local style KBs could exist and strive in other cities on the mainland but don't think so because local guys got too much aloha sometimes, hehe. So bros, just go and REALLY enjoy yourselves when you go in whatever manner you wish as long as you don't hurt anyone else.Exactly man. Learn to relax and just enjoy. Don't expect fun & excitement to happen or come to you, create excitement and bring fun to the bar. I think most guys rely on something exciting for the night to be fun. They expect things to happen. Without it, they're bored. Their type of fun is picky.
"No nice girls at the bar? Shucks. Boring!"
"She not doing anything physical to me yet and I bought her 5 drinks already. Shit. Junk!"
"Shit, she sitting with another customer. How long do I have to wait for her?"
When you expect, that's where it will work against you and get you irritated, bothered and disappointed. Don't expect and just enjoy. Be open and creative on things to make it fun for you. You only make it harder on yourself when you expect things to happen the way you want it to be. Be spontaneous. When you're in a zone and having fun, you're not concerned about what people may think of you.
Defined (Urban Dictionary) : A man whose known love for a woman is used by her to play games of manipulation and deception for material and emotional gain.
Anybody out there fit this definition? The first thing for the LVB to recognize is not the definition but rather the admission of deception and manipulation by the KBG. Once the LVB recognizes and admits the KBG's deceit, then (and only then) can the LVB start the road to recovery; he will be able to relax and enjoy the KBs and KBGs for what they are: a fantasyland and actresses. Fantasyland does not exist; actresses play a fictitious role that is created and meant to convince the audience. Wake-up calls are tough.
I enjoy all this mind shit talk with the women as they normally mention secrets and gossip alot. The BGs in a bar are not any different as they are women to. Guys who don't catch on aren't really the deep thinkers. They lack depth in conversing and their understanding is more limited where they only see things at a superficial level. They are considered the shallow type thinkers. That's why guys get played easily and cannot read a womans intentions. They basically just follow along and just go with the flow of things.
Typical Examples:
1."Meh, she only care about the money"
2."These BGs, they're all a bunch of liars!"
3."If I spend enough and buy enough drinks, I should get action from her"
4."She is just another ROB!"
5."She sitting with that customer long time. I see her laughing along with him to. Shit! She must like him!"
6."Wow, Howcome he got play from her and I didn't? I spent more than him!"
Let's go over these more in depth.
1. Of course she working there for the money. What do you think she there for? She not working there primarily to hookup and meet her future husband. If you were a BG working in a KB, wouldn't you care about the money to? I bet you would. It's the same outlook you have when you go to an AMP. Do you go there primarily to hookup and date an AMP girl? No. Your mindset is just want to bang.
2. Why would she be totally honest and tell you the truth on everything? How are you more special than the other guys where she'll only be honest with you? Do you think she can and should trust you? How does she know if you're not a liar, stalker or some crazy guy? If she were to be totally honest with all of her customers, how would it be? Would she be more comfortable and safe knowing that every customer knows about her personal background?
3. What's going to happen if she doesn't give you action? You'd complain to MS? Other customers bought her more drinks than you. Therefore, why would she automatically get physical on you vs the other customers who bought her more drinks and didn't get any play? If you were the BG, would you do more work when the customer will just buy the drink anyways?
4. She's a ROB because she asks for the next drink right away right? Why didn't you stop her and give her the boot? In the BGs shoes, she feels she has nothing to lose but so much to gain my doing that because other guys gave in and bought her drinks. So, she assumes that you will do the same as well. It's like a salesperson who tries to sell you extra unnecessary things just to make the sale. Who knows, you may just buy it. If you did, he's going to try do it again on the next customer. From a customers view, yes it sucks. But, in a BGs view, it benefits her.
5. She probably may have known him before you. Plus, what's to say he didn't spend a lot more money on her than you? He could be more fun and also be less emotional / moody than you. What do you talk about with her? What do you think he talks about with her? Do you think she finds you interesting, fun, needy, jealous, boring?
6. Why didn't she give you play? Other than just the money spent, do you feel she wanted to offer play? Could you tell by her body language? Is she attracted to you were she would consider? Did you make a move on her like the other guy? Describe the other customer she was sitting with? Is he young, old, good lookin, ugly? What about the conversation? How'd that go? Anything sexual was brought up?
Shallow thinkers look at things from one side. They don't bother to look at the other side of things and then they draw their own conclusions based on what appears obvious to them. Therefore, it will take them awhile until they finally realize and grasp on.
"Oooh, now I see what you're saying"
Defined (Urban Dictionary) : A man whose known love for a woman is used by her to play games of manipulation and deception for material and emotional gain.
Anybody out there fit this definition? The first thing for the LVB to recognize is not the definition but rather the admission of deception and manipulation by the KBG. Once the LVB recognizes and admits the KBG's deceit, then (and only then) can the LVB start the road to recovery; he will be able to relax and enjoy the KBs and KBGs for what they are: a fantasyland and actresses. Fantasyland does not exist; actresses play a fictitious role that is created and meant to convince the audience. Wake-up calls are tough.Nah, you made up that definition, although it is the correct meaning. UD has L. V. B as some kind of gang in Vegas.
Nah, you made up that definition, although it is the correct meaning. UD has L. V. B as some kind of gang in Vegas.Come on bro, don't confuse the LVBs Some may think they not because its not in the 'mainland' UD. Just like the guys who believe everything written in books. Yes, get guys like that including LVBs. I remember it took many years for the powers that be to include words like groovy in the books. Also, get a LOT of local words that we use and will probably never be included in the UD. BTW, thanks for reading this thread even tho you don't drink or go KBs.
Nah, you made up that definition, although it is the correct meaning. UD has L. V. B as some kind of gang in Vegas.Nah, I didn't invent that definition; paraphrased it (acceptable, not illegal) from the UD. BTW, I used "Loverboy," not L. V. B, for the search. The LVB used here is specific to this thread (initiated by Oldee) and not recognized otherwise in its current form. LOL.
How long took you to think and write that post? Good stuff bro.
Come on bro, don't confuse the LVBs Some may think they not because its not in the 'mainland' UD. Just like the guys who believe everything written in books. Yes, get guys like that including LVBs. I remember it took many years for the powers that be to include words like groovy in the books. Also, get a LOT of local words that we use and will probably never be included in the UD. BTW, thanks for reading this thread even tho you don't drink or go KBs.Heh, don't mind Ocolumbo. He cool but, I know he takes things literally sometimes when you write something that's meant to be facetious. I'm not surprised if some guys take what i write literally.
"What is this guy talking about? That's not true!" Hehe. I'm just futtin around sometimes. Gets boring if everyone just be serious on how they write.
How long took you to think and write that post? Good stuff bro.Took 10-20min. I added more but, later edited and deleted some things. I enjoy it when you start topics Oldee. The long ones. Shallow thinkers hit a wall when they talk about topics. They run out of gas on what to say. It's basically about what they did, what they bought, where they went etc. After they mention all of that, stuck already.
"Shoots man, talk to you later!" LOL.
Come on bro, don't confuse the LVBs Some may think they not because its not in the 'mainland' UD. Just like the guys who believe everything written in books. Yes, get guys like that including LVBs. I remember it took many years for the powers that be to include words like groovy in the books. Also, get a LOT of local words that we use and will probably never be included in the UD. BTW, thanks for reading this thread even tho you don't drink or go KBs.Should submit to UD. I bet they will accept.
Nah, I didn't invent that definition; paraphrased it (acceptable, not illegal) from the UD. BTW, I used "Loverboy," not L. V. B, for the search. The LVB used here is specific to this thread (initiated by Oldee) and not recognized otherwise in its current form. LOL.Getting back to helping LVBs, the real problem with MOST LVBs is that they believe their DKBG is DIFFERENT. Most guys know KBGs for what they are except for THEIR DKBG. Hey LVBs, don't believe? Ask her to quit the bar today and don't expect your financial help. She wlll never listen, LOL.
Getting back to helping LVBs, the real problem with MOST LVBs is that they believe their DKBG is DIFFERENT. Most guys know KBGs for what they are except for their DKBG. Hey LVBs, don't believe? Ask her to quit the bar today and don't expect your financial help. She wlll never listen, LOL.Does it stand for "Drunk"?
I have experienced and witnessed (as others have, I'm sure) several LVBs getting dumb by fighting with their DKBGs in and outside the KBs for whatever reasons. In some cases the ruckus caused by the argument (experienced two days ago) may start affecting others and become potentially dangerous especially if objects are thrown and personal property damaged; this LVB wasn't a young kid, but looked to be in his sixties (and drunk). The DKBG was a typical "revolving door" for "play and pay;" a typical **** (flashed me her vagonia just minutes before the pilikia) who was slapping this LVB silly outside.
You get what you play for, gentlemen. It's a lonely, downhill slide if you're the LVB defined in an earlier post so if you no like make-A, then wise-up already (and stop sending your DKBG to us for flash her vajayjay).
Getting back to helping LVBs, the real problem with MOST LVBs is that they believe their DKBG is DIFFERENT. Most guys know KBGs for what they are except for THEIR DKBG. Hey LVBs, don't believe? Ask her to quit the bar today and don't expect your financial help. She wlll never listen, LOL.Even if you tell her to quit the bar and that you will pay all her bills, she still will never listen. You can take the KBG out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the KBG. She will always return.
Even if you tell her to quit the bar and that you will pay all her bills, she still will never listen. You can take the KBG out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the KBG. She will always return.If a BG is out of the bar but, not working or keeping herself busy, she'll be bored off her ass waiting until you come home. You're her means of entertainment. Not so bad if she gets a hobby or another job that challenges her. But, in most cases, they're spoiled by the money they be making in the bar. It's like having a fancy smart phone and then you downgrade to a simple cell phone.
"I no like this one. Junk!"
No can. Next thing you know she be bringing up drama issues, lectures and scolds you just to have her control over you like she the queen of the house. She doesn't have anything else better to do so, shit she does that just to mentally / emotionally keep herself busy.
A BG replies: "What? Nawt! We no do that!"
LOL.
If a BG is out of the bar but, not working or keeping herself busy, she'll be bored off her ass waiting until you come home. You're her means of entertainment. Not so bad if she gets a hobby or another job that challenges her. But, in most cases, they're spoiled by the money they be making in the bar. It's like having a fancy smart phone and then you downgrade to a simple cell phone.
"I no like this one. Junk!"
No can. Next thing you know she be bringing up drama issues, lectures and scolds you just to have her control over you like she the queen of the house. She doesn't have anything else better to do so, shit she does that just to mentally / emotionally keep herself busy.
A BG replies: "What? Nawt! We no do that!"
LOL.Give her some plastic and I'm sure she won't be bored. This one bg I was with before would change her mind on something she wanted if it went on sale. To convince me to buy her things she would try and upsell the item on me by saying,"Feel its very good quality." I would just simply reply,"You too stupid to know if its really good quality or not." LOL The true test for a bg is if she can handle working in the real world period. Whether its a executive position or just a McD's cashier, there shouldn't be any excuses. Especially if you paying for her living. It starts to become like talking to your own child, telling them "any job is better than no job."
Does it stand for "Drunk"?Getting interested in KBs Oco bro? Go Camelot, order your non alcohol drink, and watch the LVB show. Cost=3bucks. Fun=priceless, LOL.
I have been living in Beijing for 4 years, after living on Maui for 18, and I will be visiting Oahu for a few weeks soon.
I thought I would nose around the internet a little before my visit.
I had to laugh at the beginning of this thread. There were a lot of KB's close to my home, and I certainly went through the learning curve.
Nice to see nothings changed. Just re-enforces that fact that if I venture into a KB in Waikiki I will stick to my eat and drink only routine.
The problem is, I am not sure which one is best for that, and I don't really want to waste time floating around to find a good one. Any suggestions?
I have been living in Beijing for 4 years, after living on Maui for 18, and I will be visiting Oahu for a few weeks soon.
I thought I would nose around the internet a little before my visit.
I had to laugh at the beginning of this thread. There were a lot of KB's close to my home, and I certainly went through the learning curve.
Nice to see nothings changed. Just re-enforces that fact that if I venture into a KB in Waikiki I will stick to my eat and drink only routine.
The problem is, I am not sure which one is best for that, and I don't really want to waste time floating around to find a good one. Any suggestions?There are KBs in Waikiki? Really?
I have been living in Beijing for 4 years, after living on Maui for 18, and I will be visiting Oahu for a few weeks soon.
I thought I would nose around the internet a little before my visit.
I had to laugh at the beginning of this thread. There were a lot of KB's close to my home, and I certainly went through the learning curve.
Nice to see nothings changed. Just re-enforces that fact that if I venture into a KB in Waikiki I will stick to my eat and drink only routine.
The problem is, I am not sure which one is best for that, and I don't really want to waste time floating around to find a good one. Any suggestions?Since you going to JUST eat and drink, LOL. BTW, no KBs in Waikiki and Oahu KBs not like Maui.
I have experienced and witnessed (as others have, I'm sure) several LVBs getting dumb by fighting with their DKBGs in and outside the KBs for whatever reasons. In some cases the ruckus caused by the argument (experienced two days ago) may start affecting others and become potentially dangerous especially if objects are thrown and personal property damaged; this LVB wasn't a young kid, but looked to be in his sixties (and drunk). The DKBG was a typical "revolving door" for "play and pay;" a typical * (flashed me her vagonia just minutes before the pilikia) who was slapping this LVB silly outside.
You get what you play for, gentlemen. It's a lonely, downhill slide if you're the LVB defined in an earlier post so if you no like make-A, then wise-up already (and stop sending your DKBG to us for flash her vajayjay).I saw one incident right outside of EG too. Tiny guy (maybe 95-100lbs) getting rag-dolled. Quite entertaining. I don't know what was the situation, but the guy was back the next night.
I have been living in Beijing for 4 years, after living on Maui for 18, and I will be visiting Oahu for a few weeks soon.
I thought I would nose around the internet a little before my visit.
I had to laugh at the beginning of this thread. There were a lot of KB's close to my home, and I certainly went through the learning curve.
Nice to see nothings changed. Just re-enforces that fact that if I venture into a KB in Waikiki I will stick to my eat and drink only routine.
The problem is, I am not sure which one is best for that, and I don't really want to waste time floating around to find a good one. Any suggestions?Don't know of any in Waikiki, there might be a few Jbars and theres Paris which is kind of a viet bar. You got to go Keeamoku / Kapiolani area for the kbar action. There all walking distance so just do a beer tour. Save Evergreen though for last at 2 am. Be sure to fit in Camelot in your tour.
I saw one incident right outside of EG too. Tiny guy (maybe 95-100lbs) getting rag-dolled. Quite entertaining. I don't know what was the situation, but the guy was back the next night.I first experienced KBG temper way back when they used to have catfights with each other over customers. These days, they fight with each other but now also take out their displeasures on poor LVB puppy dog slaves. I feel sorry for koreans here who don't work in or go KBs because many people stereotype koreans in general as having volitile tempers. Yeah, its funny to watch sometimes as some LVBs even tolerate physical abuse. Some KBGs are known to be psychos and deserving of that rep imo. The more funny thing is that many of these so called psycho KBGs have many LVB fans, LOL.
The last couple weekends, I hit Kalihi and was busier than just a few months ago. 3 bars gave me free beer (thinking I new customer) and many had good house pupus. Of course lot of bars were also dead but not really dead like before. Could be only busy weekends but still better than before for THEM. Although the talent hasn't improved, still better overall service than town bars. Less LVBs than town too, hehe. A lot of guys just like their food and drink cause they KBholics, hehe. KBGs little more nicer and mellow, only because they know their better days in town many years ago are behind them. Still, got some gems here and there but no hotties that I could find. Want to know how your DKBG will be in a few years? Visit Kalihi and beyond, LOL.
Some KBGs are known to be psychos and deserving of that rep imo. The more funny thing is that many of these so called psycho KBGs have many LVB fans, LOL.In the past these KBGs used to settle their differences in private with fisticuffs, biting, scratching, and screaming. Now they make a big scene in public because they know somebody will stop the chicken fight. They should go to someplace private and slaughter themselves if they're serious.
The psycho KBGs usually have large LVB followings because "misery loves company" and it's "all show; no go." They are professional actresses who enjoy the attention and manipulation of LVBs. Try NEON one KBG; she'll get angry. Try ignore one KBG; she'll get more angry (and hornier).
Thanks for the feedback,
When I say Waikiki, I do mean honolulu in general.
Thanks for the names of places. I will search online and find out where they are, and when I have some time will go check them out.
This thread is pretty amusing.
Thanks all.
In the past these KBGs used to settle their differences in private with fisticuffs, biting, scratching, and screaming. Now they make a big scene in public because they know somebody will stop the chicken fight. They should go to someplace private and slaughter themselves if they're serious.
The psycho KBGs usually have large LVB followings because "misery loves company" and it's "all show; no go." They are professional actresses who enjoy the attention and manipulation of LVBs. Try NEON one KBG; she'll get angry. Try ignore one KBG; she'll get more angry (and hornier).Seems like just within the past 5 years or so have the KBs really went downhill. The BGs would actually serve the tables THEN ask for the neko. Now if someone doesn't paper-up, she will just walk.
I first experienced KBG temper way back when they used to have catfights with each other over customers. These days, they fight with each other but now also take out their displeasures on poor LVB puppy dog slaves. I feel sorry for koreans here who don't work in or go KBs because many people stereotype koreans in general as having volitile tempers. Yeah, its funny to watch sometimes as some LVBs even tolerate physical abuse. Some KBGs are known to be psychos and deserving of that rep imo. The more funny thing is that many of these so called psycho KBGs have many LVB fans, LOL.I think the girl was Chinese, I overheard some of the other spectators saying that she also works at Cameltoes.
Seems like just within the past 5 years or so have the KBs really went downhill. The BGs would actually serve the tables THEN ask for the neko. Now if someone doesn't paper-up, she will just walk.The KBGs have gotten spoiled thanks to LVBs. Yeah, got exceptions but a lot more princessy KBGs these days. Thats why I wish more LVBs would wise up and friends of LVBs would wake them up.
Have you ever bought a drink for a KBG you were not really interested in even though you usually CAN and DO say no? NO? LIAR! LOL. We ALL have done it. Why, its because MOST KBGs do HAVE GAME in regards to getting drinks from guys. They practice their game EVERYDAY that they work, some of them 7 days a week. They know just what to say, just right the body language, just the right voice, just the right buttering you up, etc. AFTER you say OK, THEN they go back to normal mode while quickly downing their drink. LOL. Starts all over again before you say OK to the next drink, LOL. They are EXPERTS at sizing you up, knowing what TACTIC will work with you. They have different tactics for different type guys. They've heard and seen it all and know WHO they can and can't get drinks from. They don't waste time and are very efficient at what they do. There are only a FEW guys that know how to counter their game imo. Anyone can say no but the guys that know how to keep them interested while using delay tactics are usually seasoned vets of KBs. INDIFFERENCE can be used as your ally and if you know how to work it and have game yourself, is a BIG advantage for you. You just need to be aware of WHY she sitting with you. 99% of the time is JUST to get a drink (s) , PERIOD. Its not because you handsome, nice, smart, etc. For me, I liken it to being in a martial arts match with attack and counter moves. You MUST be able to adapt and counter their moves with YOURS. Its fun! Too hard? Just say no. Want better game? PRACTICE! PRACTICE! PRACTICE! What works with civilians works with KBGs BTW. Not good with civilians? Sorry, you probably got no chance, LOL. Take heart bros, there's always the AMPs. LOL.
KBs are establishing their business models; for example: Twilight emphasizing big chichis for their bartenders; Ellie relying on mature bartenders who can cook and play around; Casino as a longtime LVB spot with service of "the old days;" Jasmine has a balancing act as oldtimer spot and reasonably priced ho house; Business as ho house; Splash has yet to emerge with their business model; Sheridan KB / VB triplex as LVB traps, ho houses, and princess pubs. Butts is butts with LVBs who spend their lives just hanging on.
This thread is pretty amusing.Yeah. It is amusing. The things these BGs do is no different than what civilian women do to. Not much if any different with their outlook and what they do.
1. Testing a man to see if her assumption of him is right or wrong.
"This guy looks like a typical LVB. Let me ask him for a drink. I bet he'll buy it. Hehe. I knew it! Why am I not surprised?"
2. Label the man as guilty until he proves he's innocent.
"Oh gawd! This guy is obviously a player"
3. Categorize a man based on her assumption of him. Player? LVB? Psycho? Pervert?
4. Throw hints / clues to see if you pick up on it.
"Why is he not making a move? I've given alot of hints / signals to him already"
5. Do her silent talk / think to herself. She's thinking stuff in her mind about you.
"Hmm. I bet this guy is a playboy"
6. Says a certain thing but, deep down, it actually means something else. She basically lied to you but, just covering it up.
"Oh, I'm just with a friend right now"
She doesn't want to be too specific who she's with but, at the same time, don't want to sound like she's completely lieing to you to.
7. Give in to saying yes at the moment. But, only to flake out on you later on. She was hoping you forgot by now.
"Aww shit, he's texting to see if I can go out Sat night. Shit, got to think of an excuse now"
8. Bring up dramas on small things just to add excitement because she's bored. She feels the lack of attention she's not getting.
9. Play hard to get because she likes the chase. It makes her feel more wanted by doing this.
"No hunnee, not here. Not right now"
10. Display herself like a prized jewel for people to admire and to be placed on a pedestal.
"I know you guys want me! Can you afford me though? I'm not cheap"
11. Use her smile, sweet talk voice and looks to soften up a man up and take advantage of him for her own personal gain.
KBs are establishing their business models; for example: Twilight emphasizing big chichis for their bartenders; Ellie relying on mature bartenders who can cook and play around; Casino as a longtime LVB spot with service of "the old days;" Jasmine has a balancing act as oldtimer spot and reasonably priced ho house; Business as ho house; Splash has yet to emerge with their business model; Sheridan KB / VB triplex as LVB traps, ho houses, and princess pubs. Butts is butts with LVBs who spend their lives just hanging on.Too add- Evergreen has the 'any way you choose to get robbed'. They got all types, princessy to play robs. Tommorow is like 'everytime you come, TOMMORROW you going get something'. Damour go'we no care, we got loyal LVBs' LOL.
Great list. If you and I went KBs and they knew was you and me, you think we get chance come home alive? LOL.
Great list. If you and I went KBs and they knew was you and me, you think we get chance come home alive? LOL.You know, I often wonder how many other members on here is in the bar while I'm in the bar.
Uki : "Oh, excuse me. Sorry man."
Customer: "No problem bro"
Uki thinks: 'Oldee, is that you? '
LOL.
I bet get guys wondering that to. LOL. You walking into the bathroom, another guy walks out. That guy that just walked out, you private message him earlier. LOL.
You know, I often wonder how many other members on here is in the bar while I'm in the bar.
I bet get guys wondering that to. LOL. You walking into the bathroom, another guy walks out. That guy that just walked out, you private message him earlier. LOL.Yup, often wonder myself. Not sayin we should all go around wearing Hey Its Me Tshirts, but, it might be fun one night to choose a color. It's Friday and a White-out or whatevers. Kind of a show of solidarity. I would think if enough guys showed up at a particular bar some of the KBG's would be going Holy Shit! Which one is Uki Eater. Oldee. SS. Etc. Not saying to specifically I'd yourself, just suggesting a "they're everywhere" fun night.
Ss
Yup, often wonder myself. Not sayin we should all go around wearing Hey Its Me Tshirts, but, it might be fun one night to choose a color. It's Friday and a White-out or whatevers. Kind of a show of solidarity. I would think if enough guys showed up at a particular bar some of the KBG's would be going Holy Shit! Which one is Uki Eater. Oldee. SS. Etc. Not saying to specifically I'd yourself, just suggesting a "they're everywhere" fun night.
SsWe'd need at least a dozen guys or more to fill the bar and sort of 'take over' things, LOL. More guys, less they get chance of knowing who is who, LOL. I going ack like one shy LVB. KBs would fear us going to THEIR bar but happy if we go to the comepetition. Thats why when go, got to bar hop, LOL.
Captin Crunch
03-26-12, 04:14
Yup, often wonder myself. Not sayin we should all go around wearing Hey Its Me Tshirts, but, it might be fun one night to choose a color. It's Friday and a White-out or whatevers. Kind of a show of solidarity. I would think if enough guys showed up at a particular bar some of the KBG's would be going Holy Shit! Which one is Uki Eater. Oldee. SS. Etc. Not saying to specifically I'd yourself, just suggesting a "they're everywhere" fun night.
SsPick the place and night and let's try it out.
Pick the place and night and let's try it out.Including your dogs and other pets. Even your wives / gfs invited. The more bodies the better. Who's in?
Pick the place and night and let's try it out.Friday night, green shirts at Green Tea.
Friday night, green shirts at Green Tea.Can start there and move bar to bar in the shopping plaza. LOL.
Friday night, green shirts at Green Tea.Eh Uki, we got to get at LEAST a dozen guys first bro. Going look stupid with me you, SS MM, and Sna8ke ONLY wearing green shirts, LOL. Plus, no forget going get LVB spies alerting the bars as to our arrival, LOL. At this event going have choke spies just waiting to give their DKBGs the scoops on us. Therefore, we need to know who and how many guys like go FIRST. Its a dangerous mission bro. Our lives might be in danger, LOL.
Eh Uki, we got to get at LEAST a dozen guys first bro. Going look stupid with me you, SS MM, and Sna8ke ONLY wearing green shirts, LOL. Plus, no forget going get LVB spies alerting the bars as to our arrival, LOL. At this event going have choke spies just waiting to give their DKBGs the scoops on us. Therefore, we need to know who and how many guys like go FIRST. Its a dangerous mission bro. Our lives might be in danger, LOL.Definitely need a strong showing to pull it off right.
Eh Uki, we got to get at LEAST a dozen guys first bro. Going look stupid with me you, SS MM, and Sna8ke ONLY wearing green shirts, LOL. Plus, no forget going get LVB spies alerting the bars as to our arrival, LOL. At this event going have choke spies just waiting to give their DKBGs the scoops on us. Therefore, we need to know who and how many guys like go FIRST. Its a dangerous mission bro. Our lives might be in danger, LOL.To be safe, I was looking up protective armor, vests and helmets. Since it will be a dangerous mission, was thinking of wearing this. Plus, it's green to.
http://www.wholesalehalloweencostumes.com/adult-costumes/mens-costumes/board-and-video-games/909904-halo-3-master-chief-collectors-edition-a.html?code=googlewhc&CAWELAID=907682962&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CNHH4s6whq8CFQ1vhwodmzNnBQ
To be safe, I was looking up protective armor, vests and helmets. Since it will be a dangerous mission, was thinking of wearing this. Plus, it's green to.
http://www.wholesalehalloweencostumes.com/adult-costumes/mens-costumes/board-and-video-games/909904-halo-3-master-chief-collectors-edition-a.html?code=googlewhc&CAWELAID=907682962&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CNHH4s6whq8CFQ1vhwodmzNnBQWell find one without the full faceshield. Can't drink beer with the face shielded.
You guys can pull it off, no problem. The LVBs and KBGs will be buzzing with "who skebe that one? ; OMG, they really did it; aigu, the skebe guys kureiji (but I likey them bettah)!" I'd really crack-up laughing if this ever happened and will give moral support by being there, too (incognito with green).
Good luck and geev'um!
Captaincookie
03-27-12, 04:03
Sounds interesting, I'll be there. Just look for the 300 lb. Moke wearing the Garrett Gabriel Hawaii football jersey. I'll know it's one of you when you give me the George Ariyoshi eyebrows.
Master Yoda
03-27-12, 04:06
This should be very interesting! I'll be there. What time? Looks like there will be alot of UH football advertising going on that night! It's Chow time!
Captin Crunch
03-27-12, 05:17
Friday night, green shirts at Green Tea.I'm in, unless something else comes up.
I'm in, unless something else comes up.Guys sorry. I was only kidding. I was just pulling your guys leg like how the BGs would do with us.
Guys sorry. I was only kidding. I was just pulling your guys leg like how the BGs would do with us.Lets see how many guys would go. It may take maybe more time since some guys may check just once a week etc. Also, some younger guys may not like Kalihi and others may not want to HAVE TO wear green shirt. Everything CAN be worked out. Lets just see.
Belot Eater
03-27-12, 20:36
Lets see how many guys would go. It may take maybe more time since some guys may check just once a week etc. Also, some younger guys may not like Kalihi and others may not want to HAVE TO wear green shirt. Everything CAN be worked out. Lets just see.Ah fuck it, I'm going no matter if you guys chicken out. I even bring my HK badge. I was was exposed long time so fuck them.
Lets see how many guys would go. It may take maybe more time since some guys may check just once a week etc. Also, some younger guys may not like Kalihi and others may not want to HAVE TO wear green shirt. Everything CAN be worked out. Lets just see.I'm in kind of agreement with Uki, in that, an organized / single location may not be ideal. Upside: It's a show of possible strength (or a show that at least you're not alone). Downside: It leaves you open to losing your anonymity (or is shows a bust cause just a few show up). For consideration: Declare a green weekend, anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Hey if you see a few "greenies" around, well there yah go. If you don't, no big deal. Leave the guy alone (with perhaps a small "what'sup" head motion) and do your own thing. I'm thinking the original intent was to just end the wondering if any fellow USASG readers were in the bar at any given time. Contributors, readers, heck even the girls could wear green LOL (I'd kind of like that actually). Hmmm. Any KBG wearing green Friday night gets a drinkee from me (as long as she doesn't belong to the "walking dead" gang). Oh yeah, she's got to squeeze JR too LOL.
Not sure which night (or perhaps both) I'll recon, but, it's going to be a green weekend for me!
Ss
I'm in kind of agreement with Uki, in that, an organized / single location may not be ideal. Upside: It's a show of possible strength (or a show that at least you're not alone). Downside: It leaves you open to losing your anonymity (or is shows a bust cause just a few show up). For consideration: Declare a green weekend, anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Hey if you see a few "greenies" around, well there yah go. If you don't, no big deal. Leave the guy alone (with perhaps a small "what'sup" head motion) and do your own thing. I'm thinking the original intent was to just end the wondering if any fellow USASG readers were in the bar at any given time. Contributors, readers, heck even the girls could wear green LOL (I'd kind of like that actually). Hmmm. Any KBG wearing green Friday night gets a drinkee from me (as long as she doesn't belong to the "walking dead" gang). Oh yeah, she's got to squeeze JR too LOL.
Not sure which night (or perhaps both) I'll recon, but, it's going to be a green weekend for me!
SsYeah, it should be a fun thing and comfortable for each member, especially those of us wanting to protect our IDs. As an aside, kalihi bars like gtea gets the early crowd on fridays at the bar so there MAY be no room early at the bar for green shirt guys then. IF you forced to sit in a booth and a guy you don't know joins you, no get mad, it may be me, LOL.
Captin Crunch
03-28-12, 01:06
Yeah, it should be a fun thing and comfortable for each member, especially those of us wanting to protect our IDs. As an aside, kalihi bars like gtea gets the early crowd on fridays at the bar so there MAY be no room early at the bar for green shirt guys then. IF you forced to sit in a booth and a guy you don't know joins you, no get mad, it may be me, LOL.I'll be looking out.
Captin Crunch
03-28-12, 01:11
Oldee and SS,
You guys are Kalihi or Kapiolani drinkers?
Would be funny. You see a person in a green T-Shirt thinking he's one of the members. You approach him.
"Yo, sup man. Hey, you here because of the meeting?"
Stranger in green says: "Meeting? What's that?"
"Yah, the meeting tonight. I see you're wearing a green T-shirt"
Stranger in green: "Yah and? What does me wearing a green T-shirt has to do with anything?"
"Oh, nevermind sorry. Sorry about that."
You walk away thinking: "Shit, I thought he was one of the guys. Fuck!"
LOL
Oldee and SS,
You guys are Kalihi or Kapiolani drinkers?I usually go town more but been Kalihi the last 3 weekends. Sometimes I like hamburgur over steak and sometimes both same day, LOL. I think SS same thing.
Captin Crunch
03-28-12, 02:24
I usually go town more but been Kalihi the last 3 weekends. Sometimes I like hamburgur over steak and sometimes both same day, LOL. I think SS same thing.I will be having hamburger on Friday.
I usually go town more but been Kalihi the last 3 weekends. Sometimes I like hamburgur over steak and sometimes both same day, LOL. I think SS same thing.Add to that some pho, dim sum, adobo, and teriyaki on occasion.
Ss
Captin Crunch
03-28-12, 15:27
Add to that some pho, dim sum, adobo, and teriyaki on occasion.
SsSs,
Where do you go to find this "buffet" of food. I must be looking in all the wrong places. You have French Fries and Loco Moco on the menu too? I'm hungry now!
Belot Eater
03-28-12, 18:04
Went to Green Tea lastnight. Please tell me there going be at lest one young girl Friday night.
Went to Green Tea lastnight. Please tell me there going be at lest one young girl Friday night.Define young LOL!
A small taste of the available Menu to my small knowledge:
Club Butterfly: KimChee & DimSum.
Evergreen: KimChee, DimSum, Teriyaki.
Cache & Misty's: Pho with a bit of TomYum.
Sabai: TomYum.
Secret: Pho.
Sandy's: Pho & a few MixedPlates.
Haven't seen any adobo around lately (I'm sure others have).
Ss
Define young LOL!
A small taste of the available Menu to my small knowledge:
Club Butterfly: KimChee & DimSum.
Evergreen: KimChee, DimSum, Teriyaki.
Cache & Misty's: Pho with a bit of TomYum.
Sabai: TomYum.
Secret: Pho.
Sandy's: Pho & a few MixedPlates.
Haven't seen any adobo around lately (I'm sure others have).
SsIts 10 seconds away from G tea too. They also have Lumpia. Hmmm, where is lumps bro lately? Must be hanging out at Mariko's place I bet, LOL.
Belot Eater
03-29-12, 05:39
Define young LOL!
SsNever seen no 30 year old in there and is so easy to say no to those old ladys.
I know the bars is slow now days but damn the BGs are really scary. Two weeks ago that Juliet from Splash was talking shit about the other girls and wanted me to buy her drink but told her no cause she had notting good to say about people in the bar.
The "green" weekend cometh; I know I'm wearing green (G) at the KBs. I won't lookout for or acknowledge any other Gs because I want this to be a strong, silent, and cool statement of unity against uncool KBGs & LVBs (unless it's pathetically funny). Maybe the KBG flashing a Gthong gets preferred treatment; an LVB wearing a green "I Believe!" shirt gets a drink and a pat on the back. Main thing is that you're comfortable and secure in this event and have fun, too.
Belot Eater
03-29-12, 13:47
The "green" weekend cometh; I know I'm wearing green (G) at the KBs. I won't lookout for or acknowledge any other Gs because I want this to be a strong, silent, and cool statement of unity against uncool KBGs & LVBs (unless it's pathetically funny). Maybe the KBG flashing a Gthong gets preferred treatment; an LVB wearing a green "I Believe!" shirt gets a drink and a pat on the back. Main thing is that you're comfortable and secure in this event and have fun, too.Yes it should be fun. Bars so boring nowdays that it has no spark. With all the hate aside and just all having fun. Hope mama will be happy that we bring a little business to her bar. If it works out then maybe we can another with Uki picking the shirt colors. It just me wishing.
The main thing to remember besides having fun this weekend is to be SAFE. Drive carefully IF you going drive etc. Also, no get mental and ack all tunta or call out people. BTW, if anyone wears a T shirt that says 'HI. My name is Oldee' written with a green sharpie or marsh pen, expect people to buy you drinks for being brave stupid, LOL. You would be my hero though. I going Friday, Saturday and maybe Sunday too. Hey KBGs, wear your Green dresses! I WILL buy neko if you do and I'm sure other guys too. I have a feeling some Kalihi bars will be busy this weekend, especially Friday. Hey you town mamas, I KNOW you will be told about green weekend. Have ALL your girls wear green including yourselves. Come on Maya, Mimi, Patti. Paula, Ellie Jamie etc. Mamas! No be killjoy! LOL.
ChickenMusubi
03-29-12, 16:57
So does wearing any kine green shirt count? Or can have just a little green or wear one uh shirt?
By this weekend, every KBG and mama will know about our green weekend. The kim chee wireless along with LVB spies will make sure of that. Most KBGs are arrogant and princessy and will ignore wearing green. They got the LVB army after all, LOL. However, SOME or a few KBGs will wear green. I will favor them for being good sports and probably buy the a drink. Trust me, they WILL KNOW about green weekend because their intel is REALLY good. They will not play our game for the most part but at least you'll know if your DKBG is a snob princess or not, LOL.
By this weekend, every KBG and mama will know about our green weekend. The kim chee wireless along with LVB spies will make sure of that. Most KBGs are arrogant and princessy and will ignore wearing green.After this weekend the arrogant princesses and their evil aunties going be green; green with envy because they not going get any attention. With LVBs and forum bystanders looking over their shoulders, the Gang Green will be infectious.
So does wearing any kine green shirt count? Or can have just a little green or wear one uh shirt?Up to you bro. Be on the lookout for some hot KBGs that MAY wear green too. No need be too obvious with the green unless you like wear a 'HI, I'm Oldee' shirt, LOL.
Are you guys sure that LVBs are real, like in real people, who are not figments of an average KB's customer's imagination? Maybe they are just any customer on a bad day? Any customer who is too drunk and loses control? Are you sure LVBs are not just projections from your psyches, who you don't want to be or would be if you have had one too many? Nah, just kidding!
So does wearing any kine green shirt count? Or can have just a little green or wear one uh shirt?Why not wear "NEON" Green. Can blend in with the participating or unknowingly construction bruddahs.
So can someone brief everyone one more time whats going on this weekend.
So can someone brief everyone one more time whats going on this weekend.In the beginning.
Green Weekend began when Uki mentioned that he sometimes wondered if fellow forum members were in a given bar while he was there sometimes. I agreed, in that, I wondered that too sometimes. And so an idea developed to somehow give a signal in a casual way. It was suggested that we all show up at Green Tea wearing green. The color green was a good idea because a lot of us have been UH fans over the years (or like to pound a few on St Pat's Day) and so it is a relatively common color in our wardrobe.
Evolution.
Concerns were raised by those who don't really want to be specifically identified and so we moved to keeping it real simple. Currently, all that is suggested is to wear something green this weekend in any bar you may like to go to. No one is expecting a sea of green (although that would be really cool) and no specific bar is to be a sort of meeting / starting place. Just put on something green and go have your usual fun.
Fellow Greens.
You be the judge. A guy wearing green in the bar may or may not want to be greeted. I plan to just try to read the situation with a simple / subtle acknowledgement (head nod or whatevers). No one should pressure anyone to reveal their screen name IMHO. It's just a simple statement "you are not alone". It's open to anyone who reads the forum, contributors, readers, KBG's, LVB's, and grandma's. Friday and Saturday seem to be both "Green Nights"
Personally.
I plan on being a 2nd shifter probably starting in Kalihi and probably working my way towards townside. I'm looking for KBG's wearing green panties.
Ss
So can someone brief everyone one more time whats going on this weekend.Its just an impromtu up to you lets try and see thing to let forum members know they not alone at KBs. At some or most bars, you may be the only guy wearing green. So what? I'll still enjoy myself and maybe I'll see a green shirt at the next bar. They won't know who I am just because of the green too. If they ask why I'm wearing green I'll say my other shirts was dirty, LOL. A lot of guys will show up at G tea in Kalihi for starters. Others will likely go town bars because of younger girls. I suspect a few KBGs will wear green too. I just look at it as a statement to show support and aloha to fellow forum members. You coming Blade bro?
Captin Crunch
03-30-12, 15:44
Its just an impromtu up to you lets try and see thing to let forum members know they not alone at KBs. At some or most bars, you may be the only guy wearing green. So what? I'll still enjoy myself and maybe I'll see a green shirt at the next bar. They won't know who I am just because of the green too. If they ask why I'm wearing green I'll say my other shirts was dirty, LOL. A lot of guys will show up at G tea in Kalihi for starters. Others will likely go town bars because of younger girls. I suspect a few KBGs will wear green too. I just look at it as a statement to show support and aloha to fellow forum members. You coming Blade bro?Oldee, are you going to start at GTea and what time you going start?
Belot Eater
03-30-12, 15:53
I thought we was going hit Green Tea only. Now we wear green at all the bars? It just like another night drinking at the bar. Fuck if that's the case more better I return my green shirt and go the bar I like and just drink my beer. Whatever injoy your green night.
Oldee, are you going to start at GTea and what time you going start?So past 9 or so in the 5plex depending how busy G tea. For the most part, I plan on Kalihi Friday and town sat. I'd love to share a beer with fellow greens but I may not tell you I'm Oldee. I won't ask you either.
Are you guys sure that LVBs are real, like in real people, who are not figments of an average KB's customer's imagination? Nah, just kidding!So why don't I buy you a nice fruit juice and discuss it at the KB. Actually, I had a thought of punishing KBGs by making them listen to ALL your political and social views till they gave up being robs. LOL. Na, just kidding! You lucky this is the 3 stooges thread Oco bro.
Captin Crunch
03-30-12, 17:24
So past 9 or so in the 5plex depending how busy G tea. For the most part, I plan on Kalihi Friday and town sat. I'd love to share a beer with fellow greens but I may not tell you I'm Oldee. I won't ask you either.I'll be keeping an eye out for you. My bar name tonight will be "Johnie".
Its just an impromtu up to you lets try and see thing to let forum members know they not alone at KBs. At some or most bars, you may be the only guy wearing green. So what? I'll still enjoy myself and maybe I'll see a green shirt at the next bar. They won't know who I am just because of the green too. If they ask why I'm wearing green I'll say my other shirts was dirty, LOL. A lot of guys will show up at G tea in Kalihi for starters. Others will likely go town bars because of younger girls. I suspect a few KBGs will wear green too. I just look at it as a statement to show support and aloha to fellow forum members. You coming Blade bro?I'll probably hit up town on Sat, but not sure yet whether I'll be participating in this green event. I really can care less whether you guys identify me, in fact should be pretty cool meeting some of you guys. But I'm worried the bars will give us the cold shoulder if they know we are part of the forums. I'm guessing in the end, most of us will end up at EG. Should be interesting, for the girls who don't know about this site, they may get all confused about St Patricks Day. LOL
I'll be keeping an eye out for you. My bar name tonight will be "Johnie".Okay. See you tonight, Brian.
In the beginning.
Green Weekend began when Uki mentioned that he sometimes wondered if fellow forum members were in a given bar while he was there sometimes. I agreed, in that, I wondered that too sometimes. And so an idea developed to somehow give a signal in a casual way.When I was new to the Forum, the Senior Members commented on a similar effort, saying "It's been done before", by folding a given corner of their bar napkins over.
What would be really messed up is if the guys PMd each other to wear another color shirt instead, say blue. Then sit at the bar and see who walks in wearing green. You can also use that to your advantage by saying to buy a girl a drink wearing green / blue or whatever color dress that night. If there are women wearing the color of the day, there is a very good chance she lurks here.
The only reason I came up with green at Green Tea is because its likely people won't meet at Green Tea and that Green Tea starts with Green. This thing though makes it interesting. I'm sure guys as well as BGs are bored of just being in the bar on a typical night.
I'm going to giggle and laugh if BGs wear green. Maybe if they do, customers are likely to sit with them. Hehe.
"Oh wow ! Nice green dress youre wearing. What made you wear this color tonight?"
So why don't I buy you a nice fruit juice and discuss it at the KB. Actually, I had a thought of punishing KBGs by making them listen to ALL your political and social views till they gave up being robs. LOL. Na, just kidding! You lucky this is the 3 stooges thread Oco bro.I drank beer for 30 years, when I should not have due to medical reasons. I hardly touch it anymore but still drink once in a long while. Does any KBs carry Beck's or Beck's Dark?
The only reason I came up with green at Green Tea is because its likely people won't meet at Green Tea and that Green Tea starts with Green. This thing though makes it interesting. I'm sure guys as well as BGs are bored of just being in the bar on a typical night.
I'm going to giggle and laugh if BGs wear green. Maybe if they do, customers are likely to sit with them. Hehe.
"Oh wow! Nice green dress you're wearing. What made you wear this color tonight?"Lots of colors could be used. Chocolate, green (tee) , blue (sea) , red (carnation).
Stayed in the Kapiolani area due to tired and no like take chance drive (to and from GTee, to home; the DUI-run). Wore the green polo and spent time within Sheridan / Makaloa KBs corridor. KBGs usually don't ask me for neko but three tried real hard, making me wonder if the color made them extra thirsty for money. But they were generous with the pupus (quality, not quantity) so showed my appreciation via tipping.
I'll go green again today and hope to be in good company. Saw a guy in a dark green T-shirt; another with an Izod polo.
In the beginning.
Green Weekend began when Uki mentioned that he sometimes wondered if fellow forum members were in a given bar while he was there sometimes.Heh, when I see a guy by himself having a drink, it does make me wonder that he's another member and just check-in out the bars doing recon. Then, you see that same guy stare back at you and he probably thinking the same thing about you. LOL. Some guys do stare for quite a while. They observing / analyzing you wondering if you're a member from the forum. If they stare any longer, should approachum and ask him to buy you a drink. Don't have much eye candy BGs to look at, you start looking at the customers that walk in. LOL.
Belot Eater
03-31-12, 14:23
Heh, when I see a guy by himself having a drink, it does make me wonder that he's another member and just check-in out the bars doing recon. Then, you see that same guy stare back at you and he probably thinking the same thing about you. LOL. Some guys do stare for quite a while. They observing / analyzing you wondering if you're a member from the forum. If they stare any longer, should approachum and ask him to buy you a drink. Don't have much eye candy BGs to look at, you start looking at the customers that walk in. LOL.LOL! I notice M69 does that. But no offer me beer. So everyone in green went lastnight? So I guess going have kbar reports.
Stayed in the Kapiolani area due to tired and no like take chance drive (to and from GTee, to home; the DUI-run). Wore the green polo and spent time within Sheridan / Makaloa KBs corridor. KBGs usually don't ask me for neko but three tried real hard, making me wonder if the color made them extra thirsty for money. But they were generous with the pupus (quality, not quantity) so showed my appreciation via tipping.
I'll go green again today and hope to be in good company. Saw a guy in a dark green T-shirt; another with an Izod polo.Wow, I'm actually flattered by the fact that some of you guys including you Kapakahi wore green last night. I was only joking on this whole thing. I feel like buying every guy who wore green a round of drinks hehe. I don't even have any green shirts. Need to buy one. Hehe.
Where you going be at tonight Kapakahi? I no mind chillin with you at a bar if you in town tonight. PM me.
We just need a little more organization and more willingness of mongers to participate BEFORE its a success and jumping on the bandwagon. I felt like a bullseye was on my back last night but was proud to wear it because it means I support fellow mongers including and ESPECIALLY LVBs. I am aware many of you think we crazy naive dreamers with no hope of success. That maybe true but we TRY! Instead of crabs in the bucket thinking, youd be surprised what you can do when everyone is on the same wavelength in thinking. (The above was Oldee's guilt trip speech to get guys to wear green tonight). Wot? Wen work or what?
I drank beer for 30 years, when I should not have due to medical reasons. I hardly touch it anymore but still drink once in a long while. Does any KBs carry Beck's or Beck's Dark?I think some do have it but I wouldn't want to buy you beer so you die, LOL. Also, no be PICKY when someone willing to buy you drink, LOL. I still LOL when I think about what a funny thing it would be to see you verbal sparring with a KBG, LOL.
I think some do have it but I wouldn't want to buy you beer so you die, LOL. Also, no be PICKY when someone willing to buy you drink, LOL. I still LOL when I think about what a funny thing it would be to see you verbal sparring with a KBG, LOL.No point my going to KG as I would no doubt be a pathetic LVB. LOL. As I have been at the AMPs to my eternal regret.
Where you going be at tonight Kapakahi? I no mind chillin with you at a bar if you in town tonight. PM me.Too late because I'm home already (I don't check this site until I'm home, anyway) , LOL. Was at the usual KBs watching bball and did not see much green; one polo and one knit, but better than nothing. In fact, the KBs were busier than usual due to the bball and enjoyed the good game of Final Four #2s (refereeing was controversial, IMO). Was going to check Twilight Assley, but too obvious so stayed away and flashed the green shirt (olive) proudly like Oldee. Maybe it takes time to have more participants but I'm willing to wait. No Kalihi again as I was not willing to drive round trip and take a chance; lot of pressure to get home safely and you don't know what or who else is on the road.
Thanks for the generous offer and maybe you just may be sitting next to us talking and laughing.
I really getting hustled for nekos by KBGs recently. I mean, they no shame asking three to six times (once every beer) for "join you" and "ready now?" bs; what pests! I think we need to open one KBG Pest Control company and eliminate these KBGnats. Anyway, I'm moving on to the next mouse house.
I really getting hustled for nekos by KBGs recently. I mean, they no shame asking three to six times (once every beer) for "join you" and "ready now?" bs; what pests! I think we need to open one KBG Pest Control company and eliminate these KBGnats. Anyway, I'm moving on to the next mouse house.Some mamas and KBGs never learn. The funny part is I would have gladly broken in that young one if she talked to me herself instead of Paula pushing
Yes it should be fun. Bars so boring nowdays that it has no spark. With all the hate aside and just all having fun. Hope mama will be happy that we bring a little business to her bar. If it works out then maybe we can another with Uki picking the shirt colors. It just me wishing.
The bars boring because they lack the creativity and enthusiasm to make it fun. I bet if we customers did something, it would make it fun. These bars can only do so much and they not sure what else to do already. They just sit and stand around waiting for customers to come in. Do theme nights here and there. There would be more incentive and enthusiasm to go bar once you make new friends with other customers at the bar. I bet you'll look more forward to going bar knowing that a couple of your friends going there to.
I enjoyed my weekend even tho I didn't get to see Kapa, SS and BE. I guess when Uki said he was joking, many either figured no need or good excuse not to go or wear green. Its Ok. I know some KBGs wore green especially for this event which is more significant. Next time we got to organize it better and get serious commitments. I really appreciate you guys that wore green and put it on the line. Yeah, even you BE. LOL.
Captin Crunch
04-02-12, 15:09
I enjoyed my weekend even tho I didn't get to see Kapa, SS and BE. I guess when Uki said he was joking, many either figured no need or good excuse not to go or wear green. Its Ok. I know some KBGs wore green especially for this event which is more significant. Next time we got to organize it better and get serious commitments. I really appreciate you guys that wore green and put it on the line. Yeah, even you BE. LOL.Oldee,
I think for the amount of time and effort that was put into Green Weekend. I was out in Kalihi on Friday and Kapiolani on Saturday and didn't see many guys in green, but I was probably in the wrong places at the wrong time. For what it was worth, I did have fun trying to find guys in green instead of kbg who play. Saved me more money! LOL.
It may be fun to try this again in a few weeks and get the word out sooner.
Hoping to buy you a beer soon.
Mogo
Oldee,
I think for the amount of time and effort that was put into Green Weekend. I was out in Kalihi on Friday and Kapiolani on Saturday and didn't see many guys in green, but I was probably in the wrong places at the wrong time. For what it was worth, I did have fun trying to find guys in green instead of kbg who play. Saved me more money! LOL.
It may be fun to try this again in a few weeks and get the word out sooner.
Hoping to buy you a beer soon.
MogoYeah, we MUST do it again. The fact that Ashley and another hot KBG I know wore green just for this event means it was a success to me. BTW, intel says Ashley was sick Saturday but planning to buy more green clothes, LOL. Also, anyone else saw the SS at Tommorrow and Damour?
LOL! I notice M69 does that. But no offer me beer. So everyone in green went lastnight? So I guess going have kbar reports.Who me? Sorry I only check out the girls. I only follow the girl to the booth or bar, then I might look at the guy.
Actually I do notice one guy everywhere, short, wearing an aloha shirt and long pants (walks with his hands in his pants) , beetle type hair cut. I asked the girls, this guy is out just about every night around the kap bars. He looks in the bar, walks around and walks out. Hardly sits to drink and I hardly see him sit with girls. Sometimes plays at the vid machines at EG. I see him roam the other bars every time I go out. Hope he's not one of you guys. Man, this guy got to get a life, I have no idea why he goes out to the kb's, maybe to find the love of his life?
I no mind being part of the CG. These KBGs still no learn about service and respect; only when it's too late and steady customers have abandoned the place. Yeah, their LVB fan club show up but not for long as the (has been) princesses like drain them all one time instead of creating a strong customer base. Besides, has-been LVBs and princesses in one place is nauseous: each one hoping the other one going give-in already.
Actually I do notice one guy everywhere, short, wearing an aloha shirt and long pants (walks with his hands in his pants) , beetle type hair cut. I asked the girls, this guy is out just about every night around the kap bars. He looks in the bar, walks around and walks out. I see him roam the other bars every time I go out. Hope he's not one of you guys. Man, this guy got to get a life, I have no idea why he goes out to the kb's, maybe to find the love of his life?If this is during the dayshift (11A-7P) , get a few guys who roam the KBs. None who I see with a Beetles-type haircut but they basically go in and out of at least four to six KBs daily; and I mean everyday, drinking 12-18 per. They are peculiar (weird) in their own way, annoying, and the regulars just acknowledge and ignore. They basically like stare at whatever decent-looking KBGs get during happy hour and, when they drunk, start buying nekos and propositioning. The regulars know these guys and just shake their heads because, slowly but surely, they cracking-up already.
I'd like to share a beer with fellow bros here but this time organize in PM and no share where we going go. It would be nice to just kick back with the contributors. No agenda other than howzit nice to see a fellow bro. No timetable, just wishing. Would be nice with Uki, Mobi JR, Kapa, SS, BE, MM, MY, Lumps, NL, JJ, KBM, Pursuer, Warrior808, M69, Blade etc. Etc. I'd like to buy you guys a beer for sure. Who among you and others I can't remember now would be open to that? Just an idea. Thoughts?
I'd like to share a beer with fellow bros here but this time organize in PM and no share where we going go. It would be nice to just kick back with the contributors. No agenda other than howzit nice to see a fellow bro. No timetable, just wishing. Would be nice with Uki, Mobi JR, Kapa, SS, BE, MM, MY, Lumps, NL, JJ, KBM, Pursuer, Warrior808, M69, Blade etc. Etc. I'd like to buy you guys a beer for sure. Who among you and others I can't remember now would be open to that? Just an idea. Thoughts?I would be down, although I pretty much purely a town guy. Pending on the night, I would think it would be easier to chill and get acquainted at a regular bar first and then head off into the jungle.
I would be down, although I pretty much purely a town guy. Pending on the night, I would think it would be easier to chill and get acquainted at a regular bar first and then head off into the jungle.If there was enough guys, you wouldn't need to specificly I'd yourself if you chose not to. I just listed some names from the top of head and I'm sure there's lots more out there I forgot. If enough guys showed up, we could do some real DAMAGE at the KBs, LOL.
I'd like to share a beer with fellow bros here but this time organize in PM and no share where we going go. It would be nice to just kick back with the contributors. No agenda other than howzit nice to see a fellow bro. No timetable, just wishing. Would be nice with Uki, Mobi JR, Kapa, SS, BE, MM, MY, Lumps, NL, JJ, KBM, Pursuer, Warrior808, M69, Blade etc. Etc. I'd like to buy you guys a beer for sure. Who among you and others I can't remember now would be open to that? Just an idea. Thoughts?Oldee, you got me thinking what date and time had the most guys from the forum in 1 bar? If we all met through PM at 1 bar, I think they'll (The bars) will know. Especially, if it's in town. The BGs going be snapping away taking photos and sending to other BGs.
BG: "This Is Uki Eater, he's Oldee, this guy here is H Mobius, him it's Shipshape, that's Blade82, Kapakahi etc, etc"
So obvious the BGs going to try and do that. Yah girls? LOL.
BG: "Ooh, that's him! That's the guy, he's one of them that writes on the internet!" LOL.
I think the one thing that makes me curious is how each member will be in person vs how he writes online. Will he be more quiet in real life, more serious, more talkative, more funny, etc.
I bet we got a glimpse of each other but, didn't know it. Then when we meet up
"Oh shit, I saw you man couple of times already! I remember at EG we were taking a piss and you was next to me"
LoL.
I didn't understand your post, LOL. Do you mean one of US would tell the KBGs? Is that what you mean? I don't think so but lets say I go with 3 of my friends. 10 other mongers go with 3 friends too. No special color shirts too. You think you can pick me out in the mix of mongers and regular people? Also, those afraid no need come. Still others just can be quiet and not say who they are. I think I'm one of those hated the most by KBGs for being internet posters but I'm not scared. I got kind of a lot to lose too if I-Dd since I'm a hunter. Frankly, I don't think KBs and KBGs give a damn what we do so I doubt theyd have cameras waiting. This a guy who wore green talking and no KBGs cared except maybe the couple bgs that wore green, LOL. They cared in a good way too. Hehe.
No what I'm saying is, the bars may probably pick up on a number of familiar faces if say a number of us are in 1 bar. I'm not saying a forum member will babble but, the BGs themselves will try and I'D. That's it. I'm not surprised that some bars or BGs may have a good hunch but, they just keeping quiet about it.
No what I'm saying is, the bars may probably pick up on a number of familiar faces if say a number of us are in 1 bar. I'm not saying a forum member will babble but, the BGs themselves will try and I'D. That's it. I'm not surprised that some bars or BGs may have a good hunch but, they just keeping quiet about it.Again, don't know what you mean by 'familiar' face. IF you go KBs, they know your face, just like I know most KBG faces unless they new. I'm certain there must have been times I been with some or even many forum guys same bar but had no clue. How would KBGs know? I know you kind of leery of them thinking I wonder if thats Uki but I think you just worry too much. First of all most KBGs aint thinking about the internet when you walk in but rather how to get your money. KBGs that may lurk this forum probably just look out of curiosity or if we writing about them. I do not believe your scenerio where they think we look like internet guys. They may however talk about a monger already IDd or if her customer wrote what was posted about her.In other words, i dont think KBGs sit around and wonder if so and so or any group of guys are usasg mongers. Just imo.
I think what Uki is trying to say is if we are all seen conversing in the bar, bgs might start to suspect we are from thr forums especially if we never met before. Although IMO barbacks are the ones who will notice more as they are more attentitve and have a better view on things. Depending on one members status of a bar, the relationship between him and the bar may change if the bar finds out he goes on the forums. Of course he would have to be a big time regular at the bar for them to care, but anybody could be anybody. For all we know Oldee could that weird haolie dude who always comes in with his wife, Uki could be John Yoshimura, and I could be that short crazy grandpa who parties by buying every other girl a drink. Its one thing to be a familiar face but aanother when you are a regular who gets treated better than most. Anyway, thats basically how I translated what Uki is trying to say and I hope no one takes that identity example seriously.
but anybody could be anybody. For all we know Oldee could that weird haolie dude who always comes in with his wife, .Me and my wife so hurt you outed us Grampa Blade!
I think what Uki is trying to say is if we are all seen conversing in the bar, bgs might start to suspect we are from thr forums especially if we never met before. Although IMO barbacks are the ones who will notice more as they are more attentitve and have a better view on things. Depending on one members status of a bar, the relationship between him and the bar may change if the bar finds out he goes on the forums. Of course he would have to be a big time regular at the bar for them to care, but anybody could be anybody. For all we know Oldee could that weird haolie dude who always comes in with his wife, Uki could be John Yoshimura, and I could be that short crazy grandpa who parties by buying every other girl a drink. Its one thing to be a familiar face but aanother when you are a regular who gets treated better than most. Anyway, thats basically how I translated what Uki is trying to say and I hope no one takes that identity example seriously.Blade, your post made me giggle while I'm about to eat my breakfast. But, yah. I guess you can say that. I think we might get carried away that people may notice. In fact, I'm not surprised if they did pick up on me already. Meh, Fuck it. I notice my friends brought up my I'D name in the bar as we joked around. They said it pretty loud to. I'm not surprised if someone nearby heard.
Would be funny we calling each other by our screen name.
"Shoots then Blade82, you going home? Eh Oldee, what bar you going hit next? Me and Mobius going join up with you and Shipshape. I think Kapakahi may come to"
LOL.
I dunno about you guys but I'll be constantly laughing and giggling. We text each other cell.
"Yo, this is Uki dressed in white at the end of the bar. Where you at?"
LOL.
Some of us are the faces of the KBs, no doubt, and the subjects of gossip and hearsay. I've been out of the KB night life for many years but the day life is just as active, gossip-wise. I don't know if an identity reveal is a good thing but it would certainly be a topic of interest. The KBGs who know our handles would have celebrity status amongst LVBs and other KBGs alike knowing who we are. As for myself, I'll just keep on with the color of the week and keep looking for a good time.
Some of know I sometimes do crazy stuff at KBs like counting customers etc. This week I will go around counting LVBs at all the bars I go to and assign a winner for most LVBs served KB of the week. Which bar you think will win? Doesn't matter if one bar got less LVBs but bigger spenders. I will just go by head count. I have no favorites of which bar I think should or will win. Before I go, which bars do you think would be in the top 5 for town?
Honolulu Yobo
04-05-12, 19:46
Oldee, if you want it to be more secretive as to what color that the members are wearing to the bar, why don't you be the co-ordinator of the colors, by having the members PM you as to what color the members will be wearing on any given day. The bar girls will not know what color is the flavor of the day as they will not PM you to find out.
If they do, they themselves will be giving out intel as far as it will be an unusual name that does not show up on the forum. That way you could narrow down the list of girls reading the forum by giving them bogus info on what color to wear.
Its just an impromtu up to you lets try and see thing to let forum members know they not alone at KBs. At some or most bars, you may be the only guy wearing green. So what? I'll still enjoy myself and maybe I'll see a green shirt at the next bar. They won't know who I am just because of the green too. If they ask why I'm wearing green I'll say my other shirts was dirty, LOL. A lot of guys will show up at G tea in Kalihi for starters. Others will likely go town bars because of younger girls. I suspect a few KBGs will wear green too. I just look at it as a statement to show support and aloha to fellow forum members. You coming Blade bro?
Honolulu Yobo
04-05-12, 19:56
Tell them when they come back with their panty and bra in a bag and are willing do an inspection, then you will be willing to buy them a drink.
If they have no shame, then, you should have none either. No harm in asking! LOL.
I really getting hustled for nekos by KBGs recently. I mean, they no shame asking three to six times (once every beer) for "join you" and "ready now?" bs; what pests! I think we need to open one KBG Pest Control company and eliminate these KBGnats. Anyway, I'm moving on to the next mouse house.
Me and my wife so hurt you outed us Grampa Blade!LOL, hey we all just want in on the action too. On a serious note, anyone know what ever happened to that party grandpa? Last I heard a couple months ago he had a little too much to drink and passed out in front of EG. Heard the ambulence had to get him. Anyone know if he is ok? Anyone even know who I am talking about?
Oldee, if you want it to be more secretive as to what color that the members are wearing to the bar, why don't you be the co-ordinator of the colors, by having the members PM you as to what color the members will be wearing on any given day. The bar girls will not know what color is the flavor of the day as they will not PM you to find out.
If they do, they themselves will be giving out intel as far as it will be an unusual name that does not show up on the forum. That way you could narrow down the list of girls reading the forum by giving them bogus info on what color to wear.Good to have input from as many members as possible. I'm actually in no rush and we have a lot of time to plan out things. I just want it to be a no pressure thing for those involved. Some may not want to reveal their handles and that's perfectly fine by me. That's why I wanted as many mongers as possible so those wanting to keep their IDs a secret may do so. I can understand not wanting to reveal your I'd to a fellow monger that hardly posts or even no posts and may be a spy. I also know for certain that some KBGs read the forum. I'd hate for the major contributors like Kapa, Uki, SS, Mobi, JR, BE, etc. Get thier IDs revealed by KBGs or LVBs. I'm pretty sure I'm on "the top ten most hated for posting the truth" and to watch out for list too among KBGs. You think get price on my head? LOL. Yet, it would be nice to be among fellow brothers. Maybe no need even colors but as suggested earlier something like a folded napkin etc. Also, got to have early meeting as well as second shift meeting so all can participate. Still others can PM those they feel comfortable with in meeting. Everything CAN be worked out so its comfortable for all. As a side note, did you know KB mamas actually have meetings? Mamas have personally told me so. They discuss things like drink and neko prices etc. Kalihi has all same prices and town same prices for example. Even though they hate each other, they come together when it involves money and controlling customers. Sometimes I think LVBS are like the poor North Korean starving citizens that have no clue what its like to not get hustled and taken.
I'm glad we got you giving us daytime intel Kapa. Whenever I hear of attitudes or ways of doing things they do during the day, it usually carries over into the night. As far as gossip, thats what they do between LVB customers or playing with their Iphones, LOL. Oh BTW, I'm short, fat, bald, big ears and nose, OLD and wear puka puka T shirts at the bars for all you KBGs and LVBs wanting to I'd me. No offense to those who look like me. Actually, a lot of guys look like me, LOL. I think I'm HOT!
LOL, hey we all just want in on the action too. On a serious note, anyone know what ever happened to that party grandpa? Last I heard a couple months ago he had a little too much to drink and passed out in front of EG. Heard the ambulence had to get him. Anyone know if he is ok? Anyone even know who I am talking about?In the same time frame, I know there was an older gentleman that got KO'd by some nutcase outside EG. Cops came and the old guy was taken away in an ambulance. I think his head hit the wall or concrete after he got punched and had a concussion that forced him to stay in the hospital for a couple days.
As a side note, did you know KB mamas actually have meetings? Mamas have personally told me so. They discuss things like drink and neko prices etc. Kalihi has all same prices and town same prices for example. Even though they hate each other, they come together when it involves money and controlling customers. Sometimes I think LVBS are like the poor North Korean starving citizens that have no clue what its like to not get hustled and taken.I've heard about these meetings as well. Remember about 8 years ago when the Kapiolani bars raised their beer prices to $4? That was a failed attempt as the price increase lasted a few weeks before it went back down.
If this is during the day shift (11A-7P) , get a few guys who roam the KBs. None who I see with a Beetles-type haircut but they basically go in and out of at least four to six KBs daily; and I mean everyday, drinking 12-18 per. They are peculiar (weird) in their own way, annoying, and the regulars just acknowledge and ignore. They basically like stare at whatever decent-looking KBGs get during happy hour and, when they drunk, start buying nekos and propositioning. The regulars know these guys and just shake their heads because, slowly but surely, they cracking-up already.Nah, the guy is out between 9pm and midnight. I see the other regular guys but they are there drinking too. This guy doesn't drink much if at all. I never see him buying girls nekos. He sometimes talk story at EG with the viet lady, forget her name. So strange, don't know why he roams every day.
As a side note, did you know KB mamas actually have meetings? Mamas have personally told me so. They discuss things like drink and neko prices etc.Yes, they are governed by what is akin to an Executive Board. This is another reason why you don't want to present yourself as a threat or make threats were you to for example get ripped-off by a hostess, as ms's and bar staff are potentially well-connected. Handle it properly and move-on, IMHO.
Belot Eater
04-06-12, 06:46
My identity was expose long time ago. Yeah once they I'd you don't think every thing is going be the same. But in the end it gets old and it fades.
In the same time frame, I know there was an older gentleman that got KO'd by some nutcase outside EG. Cops came and the old guy was taken away in an ambulance. I think his head hit the wall or concrete after he got punched and had a concussion that forced him to stay in the hospital for a couple days.You know now that I think about it, I think thats the story. I get confused these days with all the kinds of drama that goes on in bars.
Old man hurt at EG-hope not the guy who did local TV commercials in the past (J*m) and has a twin brother; must be in mid-70s, buys nekos and talks too much. KB operators used to meet at Han Yang restaurant in Kalihi to plot their moves; don't know if they do that now, as they love to cutthroat and bs anyone willing to become a victim. Besides, it's a new generation of KB ops nowadays that pay homage only to the almighty dollar.
Night roamers are unknown to me unless they are the leftovers from day shift; get one or two who drink from 11A-11P (even up to 2A) or thereabouts; 7 days a week. Day roamers are pitiful, lonely, and disturbed buggahs who bring misery upon themselves.
Having your identity revealed would spoil the fun. These KBGs use false info about themselves and lie like heck so we got to be slick, too. I'm ready for the next color, folded napkin, password, whatever because I blend-in with the geriatric crowd (bald, fat, short, etc.). Cute!
Belot Eater
04-06-12, 13:34
Some of know I sometimes do crazy stuff at KBs like counting customers etc. This week I will go around counting LVBs at all the bars I go to and assign a winner for most LVBs served KB of the week. Which bar you think will win? Doesn't matter if one bar got less LVBs but bigger spenders. I will just go by head count. I have no favorites of which bar I think should or will win. Before I go, which bars do you think would be in the top 5 for town?I think Business would win because Wednesday night was kind of busy when I went there and the other bars was dead. Sorry no kbar report this time cause after my green shirt report I'm being watch again as always.
Belot Eater
04-06-12, 14:02
No what I'm saying is, the bars may probably pick up on a number of familiar faces if say a number of us are in 1 bar. I'm not saying a forum member will babble but, the BGs themselves will try and I'D. That's it. I'm not surprised that some bars or BGs may have a good hunch but, they just keeping quiet about it.That part is true too. When they know who you are they be quiet about it and sevice go down hill or might not even served you. That's why a lot of guy would be afraid of not getting services and they think there life would end. But bar are slow now and lvbs are running out of money, yes even then rich dudes. For me I just say fuck it cause some places serve me might not be the places I like but beer is always there for me.
Did you guess Camelot, Business or EG or even Tommorrow? Nope, not this week. The winner of the LOVERBOY of the week KB is ELLIE! Yes, I counted 32 LVBs in that bar at once last night! Needless to say, it was perfect LVB LOVELAND atmosphere. Yes, they got new talent but keep in mind KBGs target LVBs these days. I'm really surprised and thought for sure was going be the other mentioned above. I do have to admit that I didn't check Splash tho. So Paula and June, you are free to protest Ellie winning this week. Bars getting shitty so had to amuse myself. I wonder if I'm more or less crazy than BE, what you think? Dont say its a tie please.
Did you guess Camelot, Business or EG or even Tommorrow? Nope, not this week. The winner of the LOVERBOY of the week KB is ELLIE! Yes, I counted 32 LVBs in that bar at once last night! Needless to say, it was perfect LVB LOVELAND atmosphere. Yes, they got new talent but keep in mind KBGs target LVBs these days. I'm really surprised and thought for sure was going be the other mentioned above. I do have to admit that I didn't check Splash tho. So Paula and June, you are free to protest Ellie winning this week. Bars getting shitty so had to amuse myself. I wonder if I'm more or less crazy than BE, what you think? Dont say its a tie please.I passed by Splash after 3 am last night and saw hostesses in BG outfits sitting on the chairs by the entrance (which was lit), like they do when the place is open.
Was Oldee throwing a party?
There are hardly any KBGs that know how to service, entertain, or converse with fun or interesting conversation? It used to be had at least some of those who made up for lack of wanting to play by focusing on other means to make money. Nowdays even the mediocre KBGs start asking for neko within a minute or less after approaching you. They complain about how slow it is and whine like spoiled brats. Always had those types but now it seems to be the norm. Some don't even bother to talk except to ask for the next drink. Kalihi not as bad but even there its getting bad. The same routine of 'hi my name is bla bla can I have a drink' is the norm now. To me, this arrogant, greedy, selfish and stupid no class attitude is why many KBs have and WILL FAIL. If not for LVBs spoiling them so much, we'd have a so much better chance of enjoying ourselves at the KBs in these tough economic times. Just imo. Oh wait, I forgot about KB logic so giving better service when slow doesnt matter, there's always the sucker LVBs, lol.
Belot Eater
04-11-12, 05:59
There are hardly any KBGs that know how to service, entertain, or converse with fun or interesting conversation? It used to be had at least some of those who made up for lack of wanting to play by focusing on other means to make money. Nowdays even the mediocre KBGs start asking for neko within a minute or less after approaching you. They complain about how slow it is and whine like spoiled brats. Always had those types but now it seems to be the norm. Some don't even bother to talk except to ask for the next drink. Kalihi not as bad but even there its getting bad. The same routine of 'hi my name is bla bla can I have a drink' is the norm now. To me, this arrogant, greedy, selfish and stupid no class attitude is why many KBs have and WILL FAIL. If not for LVBs spoiling them so much, we'd have a so much better chance of enjoying ourselves at the KBs in these tough economic times. Just imo. Oh wait, I forgot about KB logic so giving better service when slow doesnt matter, there's always the sucker LVBs, lol.Ah Older, you hurt my feeling. LOL! You mean to us lvbs but yeah you right I'm getting sick already with my bg. No talk or convo, nutting. The other night at the bars like you said a lot of girls asking for drinks. The best one so far was that Sunday time bartender at Camelot. Ask her what's her name and she said " buy me neko "
Ah Older, you hurt my feeling. LOL! You mean to us lvbs but yeah you right I'm getting sick already with my bg. No talk or convo, nutting. The other night at the bars like you said a lot of girls asking for drinks. The best one so far was that Sunday time bartender at Camelot. Ask her what's her name and she said " buy me neko "That reminds of a KBG one time who approached me with usual lines including I'm handsome. My reply was, 'really?, would you buy me neko if I was a male host? ' 'Of course! ' she said, 'I'd buy you plenty drink because you so handsome' I then said 'THANK YOU!, take back the 20 you was going buy me neko with and buy yourself a drink, now we even' as I smiled and watched her angrily walk off in shock and a huff. I left the bar with a big smile on my face, LOL.
That reminds of a KBG one time who approached me with usual lines including I'm handsome. My reply was, 'really?, would you buy me neko if I was a male host? ' 'Of course! ' she said, 'I'd buy you plenty drink because you so handsome' I then said 'THANK YOU!, take back the 20 you was going buy me neko with and buy yourself a drink, now we even' as I smiled and watched her angrily walk off in shock and a huff. I left the bar with a big smile on my face, LOL.How about when she "asks" 'Can I sit down? '
Your reply should be 'NO! ' followed by "leave."
It's amazing how many of these BGs will sit. There. And ignore you. Then they play with their phones. As if responding to a TX, from prolly one of their LVBs.
How about when she "asks" 'Can I sit down? '
Your reply should be 'NO! ' followed by "leave."
It's amazing how many of these BGs will sit. There. And ignore you. Then they play with their phones. As if responding to a TX, from prolly one of their LVBs.Haha. Yup. They shame to just leave right then and there when you do say no. So, they play with their phones to not feel out of place when you do reject them. They don't want to walk away just yet.
"Aww shit! He said no. Hmm, let me pull out my phone. Make like I'm doing something"
LOL.
That reminds of a KBG one time who approached me with usual lines including I'm handsome. My reply was, 'really?, would you buy me neko if I was a male host? ' 'Of course! ' she said, 'I'd buy you plenty drink because you so handsome' I then said 'THANK YOU!, take back the 20 you was going buy me neko with and buy yourself a drink, now we even' as I smiled and watched her angrily walk off in shock and a huff. I left the bar with a big smile on my face, LOL.Shoulda told her to buy you a bottle. Then you would be up 280.
I kinda miss BGs that approach you. These BGs these days just sit around waiting for Regs to come in. I guess they shame to look bad when a customer rejects them. But hey, if you want to make money, got to approach. Better than just sitting at the booth playing on the phone.
Gee Oldee, maybe all the postings discouraged the BGs already. Hehe.
BG thinks: "Meh, nevermind. He's not going to buy me drink anyway. No sense approach and ask him"
Better to approach and try ask nicely vs just sitting down and assume the customer don't want to bother buying drinks. Hey, you never know, that customer you approach might just be in a splurge mode.
I give credit though to the ones to make the effort to approach me even if I may say no.
I think we need to educate them on how to approach a customer. If a BG can get Kapakahi to buy her a drink, she graduated.
LOL.
If a BG can get Kapakahi to buy her a drink, she graduated.LOL.That KBG would grad with honors. I nevah buy one neko in over three years already; no like even remember how much I when spend in the past.
Still get plenty KBGs hounding guys for drinks. They tend to attack what they percieve as new to that bar or younger guys more than others first. Then if you buy, you are THEIR PROPERTY. Familiar faces are SOMETIMES spared the hassle of telling them no but even they get asked. I am STILL APPROACHED a lot even tho most of them seen my face before. BTW, if you get approached by some KBGs nowdays, they still will insist you buy even if you say no and yo you're leaving soon. The ole GL drink request, LOL. You can leave, just buy me before you go. Every girl at Tommorrow has that attitude for example. I heard Yujin training Gigi in that rob techique. LOL. IF you one of those no can say no guys but you want to, just say Oldee said you and this bar dangerous, LOL.
Still get plenty KBGs hounding guys for drinks. They tend to attack what they percieve as new to that bar or younger guys more than others first. Then if you buy, you are THEIR PROPERTY. Familiar faces are SOMETIMES spared the hassle of telling them no but even they get asked. I am STILL APPROACHED a lot even tho most of them seen my face before. BTW, if you get approached by some KBGs nowdays, they still will insist you buy even if you say no and yo you're leaving soon. The ole GL drink request, LOL. You can leave, just buy me before you go. Every girl at Tommorrow has that attitude for example. I heard Yujin training Gigi in that rob techique. LOL. IF you one of those no can say no guys but you want to, just say Oldee said you and this bar dangerous, LOL.Yup. Prey on the customers that they think would buy them drinks.
"He looks like the type that would buy me alot of drinks"
But, when you cut them off and they are proven wrong.
BG: "Aww shit! I thought I had him. Muther fucker!"
LOL.
"He looks like the type that would buy me alot of drinks".Surprisingly, many KBGs think this way (by using appearance as a gauge for typecasting people) ; primitive in their assessments of their surroundings (must be that Confucian upbringing). I still get pestered for nekos but feel like an elder statesman (without saying it) so nothing influences me unless it's juicy and home champagne. LOL.
After Tax Season is here. Bars have been anxiously waiting for the slow times to end and guys to start buying more nekos. I predict bars will be more busy than usual this weekend Take care of your wallets guys as they licking their chops waiting for all you neko buying guys. I would be especially wary of the Loveland bars like Camelot, Tommorrow, EG, Splash, Business and Ellie. They not going play for anything less than bottles of chamPAIN and expect to see lot of table hopping. I usually go these bars to only window shop anyway. Service from these KBGs junk too these days at those bars. When I see guys sitting with KBGs at these bars these days, I think, aha! LVB! Here, LVB there! LOL. My advice, play Oldee's interview game at all these bars. Chat with the ones that approach you and make like you might buy neko. This may take 10 or 15 minutes if you got a good stall game. When she give up, go next bar and repeat. Good fun! If you find one willing to play, STAY, LOL. Almost garans not going be at the above mentioned bars tho. If any of you can count more than 30 LVBs any bar at once and report, you will be awarded SUKEBEGUY of the week honors! Start counting bros, LOL.
After Tax Season is here. Bars have been anxiously waiting for the slow times to end and guys to start buying more nekos. I predict bars will be more busy than usual this weekend Take care of your wallets guys as they licking their chops waiting for all you neko buying guys.I think the KBs and KBGs will be busier, too. But I also believe and hope that everybody is learning from the pain (jobless, gasoline, sewer fees, electricity, home insurance, food, etc,) and will be more level-headed about frivolous spending; but that goes out the door when the KBGs use their "magic" for table-hops and money (yours) disappearing acts. For most LVBs the only reward coming is one overhang the next morning anyway. Do the Oldee tactics with surveillance and have fun, not frustration!
I'm not a strickly neon guy all the time since I play with playgirls but these days I have been more than not due to the scarcity of play talent and me being too picky, hehe. Therefore I been doing what the smart guys like Kapa, Pursuer and M69 etc do which is just enjoy my beer and be neon. One thing I notice is that I'm having MORE fun than LVBs spending hundreds more than me. Think about this more than a second. Spending way less and having more fun than what the LVBs are having? Hell yes! Watching fustrated LVBs get pissed as their DKBG table hops, LVBs competing with each other trying to show off, LVBs getting robbed with water shots, dramas left and right, its all FUN to watch. Sometimes I've sat with KBGs more total minutes than LVBs because of my stall game while LVB's DKBG table hops and he's alone more than not except when he takes out 20s, LOL. I'm NOT exagerating! Go any Loveland bar and you will see all the above. Am I the only one who sees all this? Hey LVBs, open your eyes. Your DKBG is not different, you just haven't realized it YET.
One thing I notice is that I'm having MORE fun than LVBs spending hundreds more than me. Think about this more than a second. Spending way less and having more fun than what the LVBs are having? Hell yes!I can only speak for myself by stating that,"The beer tastes good because no more pressure. Can walk anytime and get plenty other places to go; plenty other wahines to see." If the KBGs no appreciate my steady business and over-tipping then let them cater to their own and see which one better. I'm tired of footing the bill already and don't care if KBGs would rather have somebody else feed their kitty (whichever way they like). I'm there for the entertainment and relaxation value; not to be used as a crutch or "welcome mat for abuse," as they say. Viva NEON.
Have been noticing bullying tactics by "them" to get nekos and act like LVB property managers. I guess the time has come for power and possession plays to further embarrASS LVBs because their money and supports are running thin or already exhausted. I often wonder how anybody would want to be treated like a dog by a KBG and enjoy it. But it was the tortoise that beat the hare, and KBGs are impatient and cocky so still get hope for those in need of a spine. The KBGs are only as strong as the amount of money they can make; the poorer the better.
I often wonder how anybody would want to be treated like a dog by a KBG and enjoy it.It makes them feel all in love by being whipped by a female. The treating the BG like a princess makes them happy."If she's happy, that makes me happy" type outlook. The mushy feeling comes out and it makes them all soft and timid inside. The feminine types who are obedient and have a tendancy to always agree with a female.
It makes them feel all in love by being whipped by a female. The treating the BG like a princess makes them happy."If she's happy, that makes me happy" type outlook. The mushy feeling comes out and it makes them all soft and timid inside. The feminine types who are obedient and have a tendancy to always agree with a female.You mean the puppy dog slaves? The young ones think they get chance, the old ones want to feel needed and important. They are important though. Who else going perpetuate the KBGs being princess robs? However, soon the LVBs will slowly wise up, hopefully. I think the young ones shame getting talked about here and looking over thier shoulder to see if us guys watching. We are, LOL. Take heart LVBs, we only want to help you. Oldee is on YOUR SIDE! You so mean Uki!
I think the young ones shame getting talked about here and looking over thier shoulder to see if us guys watching. We are, LOL. Take heart LVBs, we only want to help you. Oldee is on YOUR SIDE! You so mean Uki!I think that's it. Being watched by the onlookers.
That's pretty funny. The LVB label has probably got to people that they're shame to fall under that category.
"Oh shit! I no like people think I'm a LVB" Hehe.
I got to admit, sometimes you cannot help but ease drop or listen in on the conversation as you are nearby. Some onlookers stare to when a BG approaches and talks to me. I see the others guys chillin at the bar lookin while they drinking their beer trying to listen in. I feel like giggling but I'm trying to keep a straight face at the same time. I excuse myself, go in the bathroom and start laughing. Then, I walk out with a straight face again. LOL.
Got to love these hostess hohos, twinkie and ding dong bars man.
This and the KB threads are getting slim pickings nowadays. It was sad business today at Ellie, Jasmine, Biz, and the'amour. Fridays are usually the busiest dayshift day of the week but it was sadly slow and showed on KBG faces. Escalating prices for everything, tax season, and DKBG expenses must be draining and worrisome (I'm on a $25-30 per visit budget and thinking of cutting the number of visits in half temporarily). The usual LVBs are not as visible and the regulars are not staying as long at one place; the shat service and playing favorites may be taking its tolls. Any other thoughts? Have also noticed that the KBGs are letting themselves go in the beauty and physique departments.
Belot Eater
04-21-12, 03:55
This and the KB threads are getting slim pickings nowadays. It was sad business today at Ellie, Jasmine, Biz, and the'amour. Fridays are usually the busiest dayshift day of the week but it was sadly slow and showed on KBG faces. Escalating prices for everything, tax season, and DKBG expenses must be draining and worrisome (I'm on a $25-30 per visit budget and thinking of cutting the number of visits in half temporarily). The usual LVBs are not as visible and the regulars are not staying as long at one place; the shat service and playing favorites may be taking its tolls. Any other thoughts? Have also noticed that the KBGs are letting themselves go in the beauty and physique departments.It doesn't matter lvbs or none lvbs, bars is dying. For me I say fuck it, stop going to bars ( may be temporary )notice my wallet getting big again and change my number ( no call/texts from bgs ). Economy is pretty bad. Restaurant and stores are slow. If you look at most of the ( rest/store )owners faces then you see that it looks as the same as the bgs. They not smiling but the look of worry.
Captin Crunch
04-22-12, 03:53
When's the next Green Night?
When's the next Green Night?There is no timetable of when but would like to know who wants to first which may take awhile, hehe. Couple guys PMd me and I think Blade, BE, Kapa and MAYBE scardycat Uki wants to go so far, LOL. I suggest no need color too. Lets call it something else and take over a bar, hehe. Who wants to go? EVERYONE invited.
When's the next Green Night?Green night?
Green night?I'll let Uki explain that one as HE chose green, LOL.
Some you of you know that KBGs read the forums but did you know a few even PM members trying to get OUR INFO? There was Yobolisious as an example and another KBG than PMd me that was also psycho, LOL. However, some are not and are just curious and PM the more outspoken members. I have a KBG forum penpal for example, LOL. No, she not a guy as I tested her and she passed, LOL. Some members know who she is so ask them, not me, LOL. However, if you not a regular contributor, I don't think they will tell you. Still other KBGs read to see if we write about them. Then there are the LVBs that read FOR KBGs to score points with their DKBG. SUCKERS! BTW BE, that hot KBG asked about you, LOL. I'll tell you who she is in pm.
Green night?It's a night that we go on a splurge mode. Thus, green referring to cash. Nah nah just kidding.
It's basically guys on here meeting at a bar to chill and have a drink. The green night referred to wearing green (green shirt, cap etc) , as a code to help identify one another. So, if you saw a guy wear Green that night, he's someone from the forum. I was only joking around but, I wrote "Green night at Green Tea" before. I was just playing around but some people actually wore green.
Would be funny, a whole flock of guys in green walking along Sheridan street. LOL.
Belot Eater
04-22-12, 18:00
Some you of you know that KBGs read the forums but did you know a few even PM members trying to get OUR INFO? There was Yobolisious as an example and another KBG than PMd me that was also psycho, LOL. However, some are not and are just curious and PM the more outspoken members. I have a KBG forum penpal for example, LOL. No, she not a guy as I tested her and she passed, LOL. Some members know who she is so ask them, not me, LOL. However, if you not a regular contributor, I don't think they will tell you. Still other KBGs read to see if we write about them. Then there are the LVBs that read FOR KBGs to score points with their DKBG. SUCKERS! BTW BE, that hot KBG asked about you, LOL. I'll tell you who she is in pm.Yes, I like her face and cute. When first time I saw her is when I was drinking with my friends at a regular bar. My friend call her to stop over. I thought she was hot but my friend wanted her so I left it at that. Maybe she like to know if I can live up to my name. lol. I eat her belot good and raw. I even draw the A B C 's on that belot.
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