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Oh yeah why didn't I think of local, LOL. Anyway the way I see things is a typical youngin wouldn't learn the ropes too much if me, you, or any mongerer is there to watch over him. I don't want to get too political here but I got to say a lot of kids today just can't think for themselves. I feel if they have a mentor with them, they will just ride with the mentor all the way. Of course this does not pertain to every youngin, as there still a few bright ones. It just dawned on me. IMHO anybody will be ok in a bar as long as they have street sense. I guess the key word is confidence, and if they got no confidence in themselves they will get screwed either way.You have a point in that going with a mentor, will not ensure that the noob will not screw up. Whether he goes with someone or not, he'll still screw up because alot are hard headed. This is true. But, the problem is motivating and enticing the noob to want to go bar. To me, that's the problem. It's getting him to go to the bar in the first place. As far as confidence, it does help but the thing about confidence is that it's general. Confidence in what specific area though? A person maybe confident in talking to women but, is he confident to put his foot down and tell the female no more drink? That's why, it's not easy to just tell a guy just be confident. That person may not feel as confident due to him lacking the money, looks, youth, conversation skills etc. If a person is lacking in a majority of these areas, he won't feel as confident. You know how guys can be. They want to display an area where they do feel confident in. Some guys feel confident in spending money to impress and show he has money while another guy is confident in his social skills with the women. Other guys feel confident because he has his looks and youth going for him. Blade I think maybe you're referring to true confidence in oneself where despite lacking in looks, age or money, that won't stop you from being happy and enjoying yourself. You're not concerned about what the bar, KBGs, the other customers may think of you. Fuckum! LOL. You the man.
Having a mentor does help, if you take their advice. However, I believe the biggest educational tool is experience. You get burned you will learn. You can have a mentor at the bar, but I can guarantee you if you see a hottie that peaks your interest, you will go there by yourself.
Having a mentor does help, if you take their advice. However, I believe the biggest educational tool is experience. You get burned you will learn. You can have a mentor at the bar, but I can guarantee you if you see a hottie that peaks your interest, you will go there by yourself.LOL, yes nothing beats experience but it seems many LVBs don't learn after getting burned time after time just like the women always choosing abusive partners. Also, you got to have objective vets as well as open minded novices. No sense have blind leading the blind scenerio for example. I also wouldn't want to go with a hardhead or no like go KB guy too. Just waste of time. I've seen LVB's leading novices before and its sad to see. Not everyone learns after getting burned or even realize whats happenning. Remember tho that we are talking about introduction to KBs for novices. At this point, we don't know if his objective is to just check out the bar scene overall or actually hunt for women first night. Its just general preparation. If he wants to hunt first night so be it but I STRONGLY feel he needs to be apraised of basic dangers and possibilitys.
I've seen LVB's leading novices before and its sad to see.That's messed up. LVBs bringing in their noobie friends turning them into LVBs to. The bar and BGs will be happy though. The KBGs be telling their LVBs to recruit more LVBs.
Having a mentor does help, if you take their advice. However, I believe the biggest educational tool is experience. You get burned you will learn. You can have a mentor at the bar, but I can guarantee you if you see a hottie that peaks your interest, you will go there by yourself.When I was younger, I was addicted to places like Club 777 (now Twilight). The young hostesses (most of whom were quite beautiful and in fantastic shape) wore G-strings, so there were many hotties who piqued my interest!
I did not have a 'mentor' and although I never went in the room, still spent a lot.
Then a friend said he saw one of them (who IMHO was the hottest one even to this day) on a news report done at UH Manoa. She said she was working as a hostess to pay for law school. Her comment regarding a question about men who spend money on bar hostesses: "I feel sorry for them". I still remember that, and it served as a sort of 'mentor' for me I guess.
Just thought I'd share it.
Early on I guess I had a mentor of sorts, well, at least he was the first guy to take me into the KB scene. Was at Club Tomo. Basically, he showed off the place / girls and gave me advice about drink costs, champagne costs, etc. I think that's about all you need really. Know the prices and make your decisions from there. I was single with a good income and tired of the Waikiki bar scene. Of course, it was a lot cheaper then when you consider a cocktail in Waiks was $3. 50 or so and adding in parking costs made going to a KB almost the same cost for a night out on the town. We had our own brain-damaged crew developed, was good fun not shop-talking and viewing all the lovelys. As for me, well its been a good run that has had its ups and downs. Jr goes up, Jr goes down.
Ss
For ALOT of people KBs are dangerous places where evil KBGs wait to suck the money out of guy's wallets. They have images of KBGs approahing them and taking all their money including literally stealing when you not looking. Others feel the KBGs will just BS you while hinting of sexual play or becoming their girlfriends only to leave you blue balled and broke at the end. Lies and deception is the norm in all sorts of ways. Many guys have quit going KBs because they experienced alot of these things. Its very COMMON for guys to say to others that KBs is all of the above and just not worth it so don't go. Even my AMP going friends are AFRAID and INTIMIDATED of KBs. Do these things really happen at KBs? Well my friends, I'm here to tell you that this description of KBs is not accurate at all Sure, all of the above does happen, BUT only when we LET them take advantage of us. YES, its OUR FAULT when these things happen. No you say! WRONG! . And no, I'm not sorry for you because you most likely WERE WARNED or heard of the above KB description by others before you went. Even the never been KB guy knows of the KB rep. Utation, and even civilian women. Now let me tell you what KBs are to me. KBs are simply local bars with eye candy. Guys make too much out of saying no to neko being difficult but its NOT, nor is it like being a dick to say no. Pushy agressive KBGs, only if you LET them. When you learn the game, KBs can be fun!
1. They feel it's expected they'll be spending alot of money in a KB.
2. Expect a BJ / HJ / Sex if they do spend a certain amount of money.
3. Feel it's just a waste of time and money to spend $20 / drink just to talk to a hostess.
4. Feel that KBs is for older guys as they feel out of place if most of the customers are on the older side.
5. Turned off by the FOB Korean women with accents.
6. Feel there's no nice / hot chicks at KBs.
7. Don't want to go because they don't have the money to spend.
8. Don't want to bother because they feel the women in a KB are not the ideal women they want to hookup with and have as a GF / Wife material. So, why bother?
9. They're not much of a drinker.
1. They feel it's expected they'll be spending alot of money in a KB.
2. Expect a BJ / HJ / Sex if they do spend a certain amount of money.
3. Feel it's just a waste of time and money to spend $20 / drink just to talk to a hostess.
4. Feel that KBs is for older guys as they feel out of place if most of the customers are on the older side.
5. Turned off by the FOB Korean women with accents.
6. Feel there's no nice / hot chicks at KBs.
7. Don't want to go because they don't have the money to spend.
8. Don't want to bother because they feel the women in a KB are not the ideal women they want to hookup with and have as a GF / Wife material. So, why bother?
9. They're not much of a drinker.LOL, I presume that's the 40 and under age group? Eh, no laff, if you 40ish, you young to me, LOL Uki, how about 10) I'm scared of them, LOL
LOL, I presume that's the 40 and under age group? Eh, no laff, if you 40ish, you young to me, LOL Uki, how about 10) I'm scared of them, LOLLOL. How could I forget the scared part? It's hard to bring new / not so new guys to KBs. Even, guys who aren't new to KBs are still scared to go. They're scared to be put in a position where he'll dig into his pocket and buy the BG a drink. A lot of guys just have a hard time saying no. They panic when a BG they're not interested in comes by.
Corrected update: Biz Mimi moving to location on 01/15/12; not the Pharaoh Cindy as previously reported (retired into wedded bliss but somehow I sense she'll be back in the KBs again). My apology for the error but it was "take it for what it is" and the most current rumor.
The KBs are dead even with bowl and playoff games gong on. One thing for sure is the pullback of nekos from LVBs; no one LVB can withstand a constant barrage of neko-buying and oulay of cash; even the Richie Rich LVBs feel the cash drain on the pockets and brain. The gamblers are buying if and when they win; some LVBs are gambling to maintain their status and that's wrong already! I can see the KBGs pursuing their Mrs. Status because I k ow of three so far who have gotten hitched in the past two months, marrying Kguys (good; let them take over).
Other than that, there's not much action yet but an interesting 2012 in the KBs is foreseen as "desperate people do desperate things." Take care all.
Do you know what will happen to current Business location when Mimi moves over? She spent big bucks renovating that place. BTW, I see less neko buying these days, even from LVBs. The last couple months town bars been SUPER DEAD weekends. Its good for playgirl huntas tho, LOL.
Sitting at the bar last night, I thought back to what my mentors taught me long ago as I watched the goings on. The two that stood out was the widely accepted never get emotionaly involved with a KBG except for 1 night stand sex and the little known or talked about BE DIFFERENT advice. No, not crazy or call attention to yourself different. It took me many years to fully understand this one but when I did, I was WAY MORE successful scoring with KBGs and business and other stuff. My mentors were bigtime business leaders of their day so even a dummy like me knew I'd wise to heed their advice. I'm STILL a dummy but those 2 advice has served me well all these years It may be nonsense to alot of you about being different but i guarantee you that successful KBG huntas are not like MOST KB GOERS.
CheapCharlie
01-07-12, 22:06
To me introducing newbies to the whole bar scene is kinda like introducing them to drugs. Reading all the previous posts, reminds me of that local commercial years ago. I goin kinda date myself, but was the one with the kids smoking or doing drugs. Then this other kid comes by and they ask him if he like join them. I think his name was Mikey (?) , they went tell him "come on Mikey, just take a hit!". He then thinks about it for awhile then says "nah" and walks away. Sorry, getting senile; other guys going read this and think "you fucken dummy, you getting the whole thing wrong!" But my whole point is, I think that instead of introducing noobs to the bar scene. Other vets should do their best to keep them out and away from them. Like I said at the beginning of my long ass and sometimes senile post, this whole thing is kinda like introducing these guys to Crack (the other one, not the kine we go bar to "maybe" get). Sorry for all the confusion.
To me introducing newbies to the whole bar scene is kinda like introducing them to drugs. Reading all the previous posts, reminds me of that local commercial years ago. I goin kinda date myself, but was the one with the kids smoking or doing drugs. Then this other kid comes by and they ask him if he like join them. I think his name was Mikey (?) , they went tell him "come on Mikey, just take a hit!". He then thinks about it for awhile then says "nah" and walks away. Sorry, getting senile; other guys going read this and think "you fucken dummy, you getting the whole thing wrong!" But my whole point is, I think that instead of introducing noobs to the bar scene. Other vets should do their best to keep them out and away from them. Like I said at the beginning of my long ass and sometimes senile post, this whole thing is kinda like introducing these guys to Crack (the other one, not the kine we go bar to "maybe" get). Sorry for all the confusion.I'm not confused by your posting CheapCharlie and what you are tying to explain. Based on the 9 or should I say 10 things I listed earlier on why some new guys don't want to go KB, I can understand why some guys don't care for KBs. We can't force them to go. What we bar goers find fun, it may not be so fun and be of interest to others. Plus, when you look at the bigger picture of it, they're not going to really benefit from it honestly. What are they really gaining and benefitting from? Who knows, maybe you may regret introducing a noob and he gets too into a BG that he ends up spending his savings etc when he was saving it for school to better himself or to invest in buying his future condo / townhouse / home. In this case, you would feel bad for introducing him to a KB and he getting engrossed in it that it's hard to get him out. So, what you said about the drugs thing can be an appropriate analogy as a noob can fuck himself over mentally, emotionally and financially when he becomes too engrossed in the KB scene. If a noob is curious, you can mention it and warn him of what to expect and what not to expect. As far as those that decline, don't push and put pressure on them too much if they do say no.
To me introducing newbies to the whole bar scene is kinda like introducing them to drugs. Reading all the previous posts, reminds me of that local commercial years ago. I goin kinda date myself, but was the one with the kids smoking or doing drugs. Then this other kid comes by and they ask him if he like join them. I think his name was Mikey (?) , they went tell him "come on Mikey, just take a hit!". He then thinks about it for awhile then says "nah" and walks away. Sorry, getting senile; other guys going read this and think "you fucken dummy, you getting the whole thing wrong!" But my whole point is, I think that instead of introducing noobs to the bar scene. Other vets should do their best to keep them out and away from them. Like I said at the beginning of my long ass and sometimes senile post, this whole thing is kinda like introducing these guys to Crack (the other one, not the kine we go bar to "maybe" get). Sorry for all the confusion.Hey man, as far as I'm concerned, your posts are ALWAYS welcome. Personally, I always look forward to what you have to say and read your posts carefully. You are one of the few remaining true senior members.
I once worked with a young guy who went to EG with his friends and became infatuated with a hot hostess. He asked why I never told him about it sooner. My answer, briefly, was that it is a bad habit and although he was bound to hit a bar eventually, I didn't want to be the one to get him started.
Also, no "confusion" on your post; an entertaining read as always.
I appreciate you adding to the discussion! First, for the most part, I agree with you as does mainstream society. This is why I never introduce guys to hostess bars unless they WANT to go. Even then I felt guilty when I did worrying that they'd turn into LVBs. Luckily, none ever did but even if they did, they would have found their way into KBs anyway. Lets face it, every single forum member is sukebe. Guys going hostess bars no matter what. IF you curious about drugs, alcohol, tobacco etc, you going try, no matter what. This is especially true if you one adult and have CHOICE. Sometimes the best way to teach them is to let them try. The no go hostess bars is preached by mainstream society anyway. Its GOOD solid advice for most guys, and luckily, most guys listen! We who go are a very small per cent. The guys I want to reach are the going anyway guys. They heard the no go KBs ALREADY! I also hold probably a minority viewpoint that hostess bars serves a BENEFICIAL PURPOSE to a small segment of society. If you going anyway, why not learn the pitfalls as well as how to get sex on the cheap? Its better than letting them get burned or turn into a LVB, LOL.
I think Oldee, you're trying to bring potential Jedi mongers that can fight in a battle. The ones who can't, stay home and don't go bar. Only a certain amount of guys will be Jedis. LOL. Hostess Bars are not for the Weak minded and emotional type person.
Do you know what will happen to current Business location when Mimi moves? BTW, I see less neko buying these days, even from LVBs. The last couple months town bars been SUPER DEAD weekends. Its good for playgirl huntas tho, LOL.Get all kind hearsay stuff going on around the bars. Latest is that Pharaoh Cindy married some Kguy and will be retiring; but she supposedly is a partner with Eve at Twilight. Mimi to Monaco, but no word if anyone will be occupying Biz. The liquor sales guys know but they ain't saying anything; maybe a big surprise might be happening. Heard that Napa is dark already; no further news. As far as I'm concerned, there are no further surprises. SOShat.
The KBs are dead, LVBs are getting drained and balking at nekos, and local bars are benefiting (Asahi, Fullhouse, etc.). KBs are old hat already; no can reinvent something already undesirable and pilau. Everybody tired of their crappy BS but like you stated, the KBGs will be trying to sell their wares and already have them on display moreso than ever.
To me introducing newbies to the whole bar scene is kinda like introducing them to drugs. Reading all the previous posts, reminds me of that local commercial years ago. I goin kinda date myself, but was the one with the kids smoking or doing drugs. Then this other kid comes by and they ask him if he like join them. I think his name was Mikey (?) , they went tell him "come on Mikey, just take a hit!". He then thinks about it for awhile then says "nah" and walks away. Sorry, getting senile; other guys going read this and think "you fucken dummy, you getting the whole thing wrong!" But my whole point is, I think that instead of introducing noobs to the bar scene. Other vets should do their best to keep them out and away from them. Like I said at the beginning of my long ass and sometimes senile post, this whole thing is kinda like introducing these guys to Crack (the other one, not the kine we go bar to "maybe" get). Sorry for all the confusion.Everybody knows what going on in KB's either from word of mouth or through indirect contact. Everybody has to learn lessons of life their own way. Some choose to do drugs, smoke, and drink alcohol, then they get hooked. Others just want to try and see what the hype is all about. Some are human nature and can't be changed. Like when you see a wet paint sign on a chair but you have to touch it to see if it's really wet or if you have a cold sore in your mouth, you have to tough it with your tongue to see if hurts.
I think Oldee, you're trying to bring potential Jedi mongers that can fight in a battle. The ones who can't, stay home and don't go bar. Only a certain amount of guys will be Jedis. LOL. Hostess Bars are not for the Weak minded and emotional type person.Haha, I just wanted point out OTHER aspects of the KB scene since we already know KBGs' objectives and bs games. Many guys get burned never to return which is GOOD but thats not the full picture of whats there as far as possibilitys. Even if you just want to drink and kick back, KBs can be a cool place to hang out. It doesn't have to be the scary place many people make it out to be. Its not rocket science or complicated if you follow SIMPLE guidelines and can say NO when you need to. Accept the KBGs for who they (they want your money and NOT YOU) are and just avoid the traps while playing your OWN GAME is easy. IF you can say NO, you 90per cent there. I agree about no can be weak mind but that applys to most things in life. Sure they lie for example. So what; ? Don't bodda me. I'm not there to change them anyway. I'm there to enjoy myself or sex anyway. Keep in mind I'm LEVEL2 stupid so take my advice at your own risk, LOL.
CheapCharlie
01-09-12, 08:47
Brothers Oldee, Uki and HM, I appreciate you guys support. Let me add a little something, I got over the weekend. I went to this VB and was talking to one of the girls. She told me about this guy, who used to be her regular. He was addicted to bars BIG time. Lost his wife, when she found out about his habit and his CC bill for $100, 000! She told me that all together the total was at least $300, 000! Also told me the guy was kinda stalking her, bothering her when she was with another customer and following her around the bar too. Wasn't only her, told me Linn (Secret) and couple KBGs too. He currently playing LVB with Lucy aka Chanel over at Club Sandy. Whats even worse is that she ripped him off BIG time and then disappeared for awhile. Now that he found out she working at CS, he trying for hook up with her again! How stupid is that?
Brothers Oldee, Uki and HM, I appreciate you guys support. Let me add a little something, I got over the weekend. I went to this VB and was talking to one of the girls. She told me about this guy, who used to be her regular. He was addicted to bars BIG time. Lost his wife, when she found out about his habit and his CC bill for $100, 000! She told me that all together the total was at least $300, 000! Also told me the guy was kinda stalking her, bothering her when she was with another customer and following her around the bar too. Wasn't only her, told me Linn (Secret) and couple KBGs too. He currently playing LVB with Lucy aka Chanel over at Club Sandy. Whats even worse is that she ripped him off BIG time and then disappeared for awhile. Now that he found out she working at CS, he trying for hook up with her again! How stupid is that?I've seen this kind of thing happen many times before and I hope this doesn't turn violent. As all of you know all BG's have been stalked at one time or another it can turn jealousy into rage. So all you mongers out there be careful and hope nobody is on the receiving end of a damaged vehicle or a personal attack.
Alot of guys have a hard time saying no to neko when KBGs ask. Even many long time KB goers get hard time. I know alot of guys will buy just to avoid the uncomfortableness and hassle of dealing with an aggresive and pushy KBG. SUCKER! They know who the hard to say no guys are and prey on them like flies to shit. No laff if you buy good luck drink, LOL. YES, you good luck drink buyers are the most common victims. You get the bs 'its been slow, just buy me 1 GL drink. They stupid part is you do this mainly to have them furtherDONT bodda you, LOL. Its not because you get play or like them. If you do this just once a week, you waste 1k a year minimum! Some of you have the attitude that 'whats the harm in buying 1 or 2 to be nice' SUCKER! You also being TRAINED by KBGs but all you going maybe get is oh honey you so nice guy, thats why love you. The real meaning is I love you for always being a sucker, LOL. At the bar, you often see many nekos guys bought the bartenders. SUCKERS! Why you think they bartenders? They get plenty neko and no need play. The no like hurt her feeling guy is really the no like look like the bad guy. YOU BS them and YOURSELF but KBGs love YOU for it, LOL
If you read my post below and it doesn't apply to you, maybe this does. The want action but the KBGs don't come by you? They solution is EASY! Just ASK them directly or bartenter, waiter, other KBGs etc. SHAME? Then you probably also the type cannot READ the KBGs so maybe you'd choose a rob anyway. Therefore, maybe you better know what you want, how much you want to spend, choose wisely or not at all. The play girls are easy to find and bargain with. No need be smooth playa. If you want the rob hotties and you don't mind spending alot, CAN I BE YOUR DRINKING BUDDY? LOL Did you know 75per cent of all communication is body language? This means you can get alot of info just being observant even if you never met her yet. Altho I'm LEVEL2 stupid, because I've met so many KBGs, its easy to read them. Even easy for a novice in most cases. 3 types. I just want your money and won't play. (most common) I just want your money but may play for a rip off price. Then there's the I just want your money but can maybe get BBBJ for. 6, BBFS for bengi or sometimes takeout for FREE. I have yet to find any KBG that liked me more than my money.Hey LVBs, there's a reason the needle in the haystack girl is called that and personally i think get more chance Santa is real.
Learning to say no to BGs can actually help you in real life situations. You eventually learn to not be afraid in saying no to other things. Don't feel bad / guilty as that's how you get taken advantaged of not just inside of a KB but, outside of the bar as well. When you do feel comfortable in yourself to say no, you'll feel good. You'll feel in control of yourself and realize: "That wasn't that hard!" If someone else can say no, I don't see why you can't. Heh, you will then wish you were able to do that a long time ago.
I think Oldee, you're trying to bring potential Jedi mongers that can fight in a battle.Hey Uki, after thinking about, maybe I AM trying to get mongers to be Jedi like, LOL. Monger: You will give me sex and not ask for neko. KBG: Yes hunnee, whatever you say. Haha, would be nice but isn't that what happens to mongers by KBGs? They are MASTERS of mind tricks after all. KBG: Hunmee, let's go in room so I can show how much I love you. Monger: Ah, you sure you want to have sex with me? KBG: Oh yes hunnee, I get horny too you know. Monger: Ok, let's go now- Ten minutes and many dollars later- KBG: Oh sorry hunnee, mama calling me something important got to go, we make love next time, ok? I luv you hunnee. Monger: WTF? Shit, I neva get noting- This scenerio is VERY COMMON at KBs. Its happened to you or others you heard about, right? KBGs are like female darth vaders. Regular guys no mo chance. The problem is Jr always interrupts Jedi training and den game over. You must learn the power of the "NO" Luke. Feel the NO inside of you! Only then can you get the pussy cheaply and easily. May the power of the NO be with you my friends.
While thinking about what to tell a KB novice where and what to read about KBs while not having to spend hours reading through the KB threads, it came to me. Just click on ILTW and read his posts. He was the REAL Frank Delima of these forums as well as most imformative about KBs.. IF you want a good laugh, even vets should re-read some of his posts. You will learn lessons without realizing it. Some of my friends told me later they would anxciously wait daily for his posts as they were classic informative comedy but most importantly the truth. I miss my wrestling poster buddy, what about you guys?
While thinking about what to tell a KB notice where and what to read about KBs while not having to hours reading through the KB threads, it came to me. Just click on ILTW and read his posts. He was the REAL Frank Delima of these forums as well as most imformative. IFyou want a good laugh, even vets should re-read some of his posts. You will learn lessons without realizing it. Some of my friends told me later they would anxciously wait for his posts as they were classic informative comedy but most importantly the truth. I miss my wrestling poster buddy, what about you guys?I agree. I like his tell it like it is posts. What he posts are facts and I know most guys wouldn't dare post what he post because we all shame / scared. For reals we are. Most of us don't want to look bad. He exposes the truth and doesn't give a shit what people may think.
This is a generalization of my tactics.
When a bg ask me for buy drink I tell them no. They give the good luck drink line I tell them give me kiss first. Most answer I get is a peck on the cheek or lips. Then when they say I give you kiss buy me drink now. I say no I want french kiss. They say we just met. I say I no more money. They say I like see your wallet. I tell them I know.
When a bg comes up ask me for drink I tell them no, I one cheap charlie, I look like a doctor to you? I no make money I work mcdonolds. I poor. I know you lie, come one, buy me good luck drink. (good luck drink line) use tactic from paragraph one.
When a bg come up to me you so handsome. I tell them I know. Some will think and don't know what to say next and leave or they will laugh and say you confident or wow you think highly of yourself. I tell them I only telling you the truth. They say ok you funny buy me drink. I say no. The come on good luck drink line rears its ugly head. (refer to paragraph one again)
When bg comes and ask me for drink I point to the bar and say get plenty loney guy at the bar go take their money my mom only give me 20 dollars for my allowance. If I buy you drink I don't have money for beer for me. Come on good luck drink. I tell them beg for it. If beg me enough, maybe. They usually get offended and leave or the desperate ones will beg. Then I go back to paragraph one.
These are some lines I use when I go bar, I have a lot that I use. Too much to post though. They only time I buy drink is when I go up to them and offer to buy them drink. That way you get to choose the girl you want and puts you more in control of the situation. Also if the girl no like you save you 20 bucks. I've been turned down when I've gone up to them surprisingly.
This is a generalization of my tactics.
When a bg ask me for buy drink I tell them no. They give the good luck drink line I tell them give me kiss first. Most answer I get is a peck on the cheek or lips. Then when they say I give you kiss buy me drink now. I say no I want french kiss. They say we just met. I say I no more money. They say I like see your wallet. I tell them I know.
When a bg comes up ask me for drink I tell them no, I one cheap charlie, I look like a doctor to you? I no make money I work mcdonolds. I poor. I know you lie, come one, buy me good luck drink. (good luck drink line) use tactic from paragraph one.
When a bg come up to me you so handsome. I tell them I know. Some will think and don't know what to say next and leave or they will laugh and say you confident or wow you think highly of yourself. I tell them I only telling you the truth. They say ok you funny buy me drink. I say no. The come on good luck drink line rears its ugly head. (refer to paragraph one again)
When bg comes and ask me for drink I point to the bar and say get plenty loney guy at the bar go take their money my mom only give me 20 dollars for my allowance. If I buy you drink I don't have money for beer for me. Come on good luck drink. I tell them beg for it. If beg me enough, maybe. They usually get offended and leave or the desperate ones will beg. Then I go back to paragraph one.
These are some lines I use when I go bar, I have a lot that I use. Too much to post though. They only time I buy drink is when I go up to them and offer to buy them drink. That way you get to choose the girl you want and puts you more in control of the situation. Also if the girl no like you save you 20 bucks. I've been turned down when I've gone up to them surprisingly.This is great. I actually do similar stuffs to what you do. But, I think you need personality behind it when you say it so, they don't get easily offended or mad. I don't think most guys can do what you did as they're afraid to offend the BGs. The shy, quiet customers at the bar, they wouldn't say the stuffs that you said. They feel to uncomfortable to be saying things like that.
Yeah you got to have personality. Its easy for me because I'm known as a big flirt at work. I talk to bg's how I talk to civies. I see some guys try to hard for be whitty but they no can.
I especially like you choosing your KBG partner. How about you other mongers sharing your tactics, not just no tactics, any tactics. Also, questions and suggestions too of course. I got one I used to use long ago. KBG- Hi, my name kim chee, whats you name? Me- Grabme KBG- what? Grabme? Me- OK! If you insist as I make my eagle claw style hands moving closer to her titties. Most run away but some like it, LOL. For some, saying no is torture, others, a chance for fun, LOL
This is a generalization of my tactics.
When a bg ask me for buy drink I tell them no. They give the good luck drink line I tell them give me kiss first. Most answer I get is a peck on the cheek or lips. Then when they say I give you kiss buy me drink now. I say no I want french kiss. They say we just met. I say I no more money. They say I like see your wallet. I tell them I know.This will obviously vary with each customer as not all guys would do this. Plus, it won't be with every BG that comes by wanting to sit down. I don't think every guy is willing to kiss any BG even if she's old and not that pretty. They'll be picky on who they want to kiss.
When a bg comes up ask me for drink I tell them no, I one cheap charlie, I look like a doctor to you? I no make money I work mcdonolds. I poor. I know you lie, come one, buy me good luck drink. (good luck drink line) use tactic from paragraph one.The ones who are not cheap charlie's want to show / display that they're not cheap by buying and buying drinks. They wouldn't say something like this as some customers are more serious and businesslike. Plus, they wouldn't say this to a BG they find attractive and are attracted to.
When a bg come up to me you so handsome. I tell them I know. Some will think and don't know what to say next and leave or they will laugh and say you confident or wow you think highly of yourself. I tell them I only telling you the truth. They say ok you funny buy me drink. I say no. The come on good luck drink line rears its ugly head. (refer to paragraph one again)This won't apply to guys who feel they're not handsome. If you are a younger guy, you'll stand out. Especially when you're among the older crop of guys. So, younger guys would want to use this to their advantage. I'm sure younger guys out there that go bars, they know they have the youth / looks to stand out among the other older customers. I seen some young guys eat it up when a BG compliments them.
When bg comes and ask me for drink I point to the bar and say get plenty loney guy at the bar go take their money my mom only give me 20 dollars for my allowance. If I buy you drink I don't have money for beer for me. Come on good luck drink. I tell them beg for it. If beg me enough, maybe. They usually get offended and leave or the desperate ones will beg. Then I go back to paragraph one.Some BGs prefer to sit with someone they may find interesting / fun. Although it's true they can just sucker a guy into having him buy her drinks, sometimes BGs will want to have fun / laughs with the customers. They want to join in on the fun when they see that you're having a good time enjoying yourself.
These are some lines I use when I go bar, I have a lot that I use. Too much to post though. They only time I buy drink is when I go up to them and offer to buy them drink. That way you get to choose the girl you want and puts you more in control of the situation. Also if the girl no like you save you 20 bucks. I've been turned down when I've gone up to them surprisingly.Approaching a BG can sometimes work against you. She will then assume that you don't mind buying her drinks as you are the one calling her to sit with you. She may even bring another BG because she thinks that you wouldn't mind. In your case, when they do refuse, they may feel that you are in control and that they'll also think that you maybe the aggressive type of customer. But, if a BG comes by and sits by you, you can still be in control because you can have her prove to you, why you would want her company and why you should buy her a drink. The BG (s) may think she's the one in control as she assumes that you're just another easy target customer.
All this discussion, makes me feel like going bar already. LOL. This is actually part of it being exciting/fun at the KBs.
For some, saying no is torture,CAN'T SAY NO GUY1.
Can't say no guy1: "No, sorry. Thank you though"
BG: BG pouts,"No? No good luck drink?" Sad look on her face. She grabs her bag and walks away and goes to sit by the booth.
Can't say no guy1 thinks: "Aww, shit! Frick! I feel so bad now"
"Hey, come back. You go and get yourself a drink"
BG: "Really honey?"
Can't say no guy1: "Yes, I buy you drink. Just put it on my tab"
LOL. Torture baby torture!
CAN'T SAY NO GUY2.
BG: "Hi, how are you?" She smiles.
Can't Say No Guy2 turns his head and thinks: "Holy crap! Damn she's pretty! Wow!"
BG: "Can I get a drink?" She smiles after she says that.
Can't Say No Guy2: "Sure!"
LOL. Torture man torture!
CAN'T SAY NO GUY1.
Can't say no guy1: "No, sorry. Thank you though"
BG: BG pouts,"No? No good luck drink?" Sad look on her face. She grabs her bag and walks away and goes to sit by the booth.
Can't say no guy1 thinks: "Aww, shit! Frick! I feel so bad now"
"Hey, come back. You go and get yourself a drink"
BG: "Really honey?"
Can't say no guy1: "Yes, I buy you drink. Just put it on my tab"
LOL. Torture baby torture!
CAN'T SAY NO GUY2.
BG: "Hi, how are you?" She smiles.
Can't Say No Guy2 turns his head and thinks: "Holy crap! Damn she's pretty! Wow!"
BG: "Can I get a drink?" She smiles after she says that.
Can't Say No Guy2: "Sure!"
LOL. Torture man torture!You must really like this topic, LOL. Thanks for the young guy's perspective bro. I'm going to watch all the tortured guys tonight, LOL.
ThirteenTwenty
01-14-12, 01:10
You must really like this topic, LOL. Thanks for the young guy's perspective bro. I'm going to watch all the tortured guys tonight, LOL.This may be a new spectator sport for me as well! LOL.
Uki I think you overheard our table, LOL. I admit I was like that before with the lucky drink. Jeez the last time I bought a lucky drink I called the girl (known ROB) to me. Told her I buy you lucky drink, as soon as she came with her drink to sit down I payed her then told her to beat it. She was pissed. Everytime I see her now she doesn't heed my calling, lol.
Our crew is "regular" enough where most bgs don't bother us. We have to call mama or the girl if we want to buy them drinks. Not sure if thats a good thing but it sure beats getting hassled.
How they are alike: both social, both fun, both challenging, both addictive. I have been addicted to the KBG and like golf, no matter you can master neither sport. As an a
Fan of takeout I have honed my game into a low handicap. However, I still get burned. I have also said golf is the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
Lately I have found some lovely civilians to go out with. The contrast between a civilian and kbg is striking. Civvies are grateful for any little thing you do for them. To them, just help paying for a babysitter is a big deal for them. I just love this hot local chick, but she brings her 6 year old along. Not great. She is gorgeous but of course the kid comes first. Understandabe. But what a rack and a sight to see in a bikini.
Hot flip chick is a sure thing. Very, very, sweet and offers to pay even though her resources are skant. Totally different mind set from a KBG. Quite refreshing. She wants to give me money. I let her chip in a bit just to make her happy.
Hot, sweet, JAP girl, beautiful, sexually uninhibited. All she expects is a nice dinner but then it is back to her place. Love het. Taller than me and flawless. Like 250 yard drive right down the middle.
With a KBG, even when you are challenged, and you are shanking and hitting worm burner, suddenly you par 18 and all is well, you will be back next week.
This is just like that late night KBG who is suddenly polite, takes care of junior and you know you will be back. You hit that sweet spot and suddenly your swing is back. You will be back. Just like you will be back at the KB. Looking for that perfect bearded clam.
This may be a new spectator sport for me as well! LOL.While I'm only a part time NEON spectator, I'm sure Master Kapakahi can teach you the finer points to watch for to further your viewing enjoymemt, LOL.
How they are alike: both social, both fun, both challenging, both addictive. I have been addicted to the KBG and like golf, no matter you can master neither sport. As an a
Fan of takeout I have honed my game into a low handicap. However, I still get burned. I have also said golf is the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
Lately I have found some lovely civilians to go out with. The contrast between a civilian and kbg is striking. Civvies are grateful for any little thing you do for them. To them, just help paying for a babysitter is a big deal for them. I just love this hot local chick, but she brings her 6 year old along. Not great. She is gorgeous but of course the kid comes first. Understandabe. But what a rack and a sight to see in a bikini.
Hot flip chick is a sure thing. Very, very, sweet and offers to pay even though her resources are skant. Totally different mind set from a KBG. Quite refreshing. She wants to give me money. I let her chip in a bit just to make her happy.
Hot, sweet, JAP girl, beautiful, sexually uninhibited. All she expects is a nice dinner but then it is back to her place. Love het. Taller than me and flawless. Like 250 yard drive right down the middle.
With a KBG, even when you are challenged, and you are shanking and hitting worm burner, suddenly you par 18 and all is well, you will be back next week.
This is just like that late night KBG who is suddenly polite, takes care of junior and you know you will be back. You hit that sweet spot and suddenly your swing is back. You will be back. Just like you will be back at the KB. Looking for that perfect bearded clam.Civiians are the ones you SHOULD be hunting for gf / wife, not KBGs. They give you the perspective you need to understand why hunting KBGs for a gf/wife is not a good idea.
I totally agree with you Oldee. Hunting for a wife should never revolve around KBG. That would be the recipe for disaster and heartache. It is refreshing to chase Civvie.
Again. Will I go back to run my game with KBGs, no question. Addictive just like golf.
While I'm only a part time NEON spectator, I'm sure Master Kapakahi can teach you the finer points to watch for to further your viewing enjoymemt, LOL.You are too modest, Oldee, as I am far from being a master at anything (but I do have a style and routine!). My mindset with the KBG (s) is that you're just the Flavor of the Shift for them. That's right, Guys come to see them in shifts regardless of the KBGs' looks, personality, and age; only if they let play and poke is what matters. Some guys no more time to play games and make BF because they busy and got to get home for whatevers.
My style and routine must vary in order to keep the KBGs off their toes. Basically, I treat KBGs as business and Flavors of the Second in order to maintain a threatless atmosphere; I not going get jealous for them and they like the nonchalant relations. The routine I use is mainly nonverbal; just look at them briefly at the soft spots and they get the message without gawking and making comments. Subtle and cute; Run Silent, Run Deep.
Anyway, Oldee the Smoothy and major contributors reveal that Different Strokes is perhaps the style to barmance the KBGs, who are always looking for excitement, variety, and money. Can't escape the pay-for-play part unless civies, whom you want to treat almost similarly anyway, but with more panache and respect. IMO, as always.
Civiians are the ones you SHOULD be hunting for gf / wife, not KBGs. They give you the perspective you need to understand why hunting KBGs for a gf/wife is not a good idea.I remember bringing up this subject of civilians and BGs and other members commented about how civilians are just as bad if not worse than BGs. That can be true but, you think a majority of men seek a gf / wife in a bar? No. They wouldn't want to. Do most of you on here have a BG as a gf / wife? What about your friends? I'm sure a majority of them are civilian women. Not saying there's absolutely no way a bg can be a potential partner. That's being narrow minded. It's just that the ratio / percentage of it is alot slimmer. It's like winning money in Vegas. It's not impossible to win the Mega bucks and someone eventually will win it but, the odds are not in your favor. Surely, most people won't quit their day job to try and win the Megabucks to retire early. They know it's not realistic for that to happen. Same with the needle in the haystack thing. Someone might get lucky and find the needle in the haystack but, most people will not get the needle though. At least with civilian women, there would be more needles to look for in the haystack
I'll be brief. Expect the worst for the initial NEON reputation. Expect the respect given, post NEON, for not being a sucker and a valued customer who tips well and is an untapped resource. I ain't courting or marrying a KBG; might as well bend over and squeal like a pig.
Nothing wrong being a KB spectator. More pissed the KBG the better; guarans she come again for the neko after the actress game no work. I would only look at the bouncy parts and ignore; they no like you get something for nothing.
Sometimes (not always) I like to hit and run. Cut my losses and move on spanning the globe from Kalihi to Kaimuki in one night. How do I say "no" to a request from a KBG or VBG to buy them a lucky drink if I have no interest in them?"No" is always the first word and depending on their attitude or vibe, I'll follow that up with "but thanks for asking". If I get the whiner or pushy one, well, my rudeness level will match theirs. I try to stay nimble adjusting to the situation. Through my travels, I have developed various bars for the various moods I may have. Am I in a playful mood? Well I go to such and such bar. Am I in a "I just want to beer" mood. That's for another bar. I think what has happened is that the KBG's see me walk in and know already. He's Cheap Charlie (no offense to Mr. CC). He doesn't buy any girl a drink ever (that's my safe-house bar). He never sits in the booth or he always sits in the booth. He's a playboy. He's a bad boy. He's funny. He only buys the bartender drinks. He's mama's friend. Just a lot of variables. Admittedly, I also have my kryptonite kbg's. These are the ones that can get me to spend way more than I intended. I stay away as much as possible cause I know they have hypnotized me. Just depends on the mood though.
My list includes but is not limited to:
Camelot: Sit at the bar and enjoy the eye-candy.
Evergreen: Kyrptonite rarely go.
D'Amour: Sit at the bar.
Green Tea: Booth and handjobs.
Vegas II: Take-out available but slim pickin'
Blue Sea: Grandma's on parade low key
Kools: Home of the Living Dead a "just going to have a beer bar" if at all.
Cheers: A couple of pushy ones from the past make it no fun for me.
Islander: Hot and cold. Talent on the older side but playful.
Twilight: Buy the bartender a drink or two and get fed (she never sits in the booth)
Tomorrow: Safe house. No drinkee zone.
Moonflower: Best MS in the business (IMHO) , always gracious.
Etc.
Perhaps you can understand why I'm always in favor of lots of guys going to the bars. Lvrboys, newbies, and 1st shifters are my friends. I just like to have the variety of bars for my meanderings and that requires a constant stream of customers. I even contribute as much as I can (of course depending upon the services being rendered). Better end, this ain't worth 2 cents.
Ss
Our crew is "regular" enough where most bgs don't bother us. We have to call mama or the girl if we want to buy them drinks. Not sure if thats a good thing but it sure beats getting hassled.Howzit going Lumps bro? Haha j / k Oldee I copying you hehe. I notice when you're a new face to the bar, you'll get approached as they don't know what type of customer you are yet. But eventually, when you become a regular, they'll then know and leave you alone when they see your face more often. However, new BGs who haven't seen your face before is more likely to approach you. Unless that is the other BGs who have seen you, tell the new BGs: "Don't bother approaching him. He won't buy you drink" Or, based on the bgs initial impression of you, they may not want to bother to approach.
BTW SS, your posts worth more than 2cents as usual. I do the same as far as different bars for different objectives. I wouldn't want to go Camelot with play intentions unless I was in the want to be robbed mood for example. Believe it or not there are many LVBs practically begging for KBGs to take their money. IF you know this, you are not a rookie anymore. However, sometimes I meet a new naive KBG that kine bar and hehehe, you know what I mean. BTW, I wish had more younger guys put their 2cents in here about anything. Don't mistakenly feel this is the KB vets mostly post thread. Wrong! This is the lolo anything goes we aint smart thread trying for learn because we stupid thread. BTW Uki, you teasing Lumps bro? LOL. I like know why he bought the rob a drink only to tell her beat it. I did that many times but not the buy neko part. I say sorry, I mistook you for the girl I wanted to meet. Cost-free
BTW Uki, you teasing Lumps bro? LOL. I like know why he bought the rob a drink only to tell her beat it. I did that many times but not the buy neko part. I say sorry, I mistook you for the girl I wanted to meet. Cost-freeI was thinking the same thing to. I was scratching my head thinking: "Why bother doing that?" It sounds like playing a prank on the BG by giving her high hopes, only to diss her and to see her reaction afterwards. So basically, it was a means of getting back at the ROB BG. This is what I'm guessing.
I was thinking the same thing to. I was scratching my head thinking: "Why bother doing that?" It sounds like playing a prank on the BG by giving her high hopes, only to diss her and to see her reaction afterwards. So basically, it was a means of getting back at the ROB BG. This is what I'm guessing.
Yup, I guess you could call it a prank. Wanted to see how she would react. I know it may seem like a waste of neko to most but just seeing her face of disgust made it worth it to me I guess.
Sometimes (not always) I like to hit and run. Cut my losses and move on spanning the globe from Kalihi to Kaimuki in one night. How do I say "no" to a request from a KBG or VBG to buy them a lucky drink if I have no interest in them?"No" is always the first word and depending on their attitude or vibe, I'll follow that up with "but thanks for asking". If I get the whiner or pushy one, well, my rudeness level will match theirs. I try to stay nimble adjusting to the situation. Through my travels, I have developed various bars for the various moods I may have. Am I in a playful mood? Well I go to such and such bar. Am I in a "I just want to beer" mood. That's for another bar. I think what has happened is that the KBG's see me walk in and know already. He's Cheap Charlie (no offense to Mr. CC). He doesn't buy any girl a drink ever (that's my safe-house bar). He never sits in the booth or he always sits in the booth. He's a playboy. He's a bad boy. He's funny. He only buys the bartender drinks. He's mama's friend. Just a lot of variables. Admittedly, I also have my kryptonite kbg's. These are the ones that can get me to spend way more than I intended. I stay away as much as possible cause I know they have hypnotized me. Just depends on the mood though.
My list includes but is not limited to:
Camelot: Sit at the bar and enjoy the eye-candy.
Evergreen: Kyrptonite rarely go.
D'Amour: Sit at the bar.
Green Tea: Booth and handjobs.
Vegas II: Take-out available but slim pickin'
Blue Sea: Grandma's on parade low key
Kools: Home of the Living Dead a "just going to have a beer bar" if at all.
Cheers: A couple of pushy ones from the past make it no fun for me.
Islander: Hot and cold. Talent on the older side but playful.
Twilight: Buy the bartender a drink or two and get fed (she never sits in the booth)
Tomorrow: Safe house. No drinkee zone.
Moonflower: Best MS in the business (IMHO) , always gracious.
Etc.
Perhaps you can understand why I'm always in favor of lots of guys going to the bars. Lvrboys, newbies, and 1st shifters are my friends. I just like to have the variety of bars for my meanderings and that requires a constant stream of customers. I even contribute as much as I can (of course depending upon the services being rendered). Better end, this ain't worth 2 cents.
SsI actually find your post very imformative that I reread it several times. Worth more like 2 thousand dollars hehe. As far as you saying no to BGs you're not interested in, that should make it obvious to say no right there. If you're not interested in something that's offered to you, then, its pretty automatic to say no. However, there are instances where a BG can convince me to say yes. For me, I may not be interested in a BG that sits by me but, if she's fun / playful, I may say yes. She doesn't need to be a BG I'm visually attracted to. I'm not looking to hookup with the BG anyways. She just needs to prove to me on why I should consider buying her a drink.
In regards to adjusting to the situation, I agree with that to. It's adapting to a situation when a situation is going from good to bad or being able to bring a bad situation to a good. Sometimes, cannot help, you be nice in saying no to the next drink but the bg won't listen and feel she can just go ahead and help herself to another drink. You will then need to increase your firmness with the BG when she starts to do that. She feels she can overpower you if you don't adjust. She's hoping you don't adjust and make any say. But, there's no need for you to just suddenly snap at the bg (s) though.
Me and my friends, we also look at the bars differently Like, some we consider the danger bars where we'll get mobbed and attacked while other bars we can chill and not be bothered. Depending on our moods, there are times where we don't mind being mobbed, attacked and willing to spend money on a bg. I know what you mean by the kryptonite bgs to. The reason why I would avoid going to a certain bar is that my temptation / urge may get the best of me especially when you got play from the BG you sat with before. But, if I'm on a conservative night to not want to spend money, best to just not bother going to that bar. Besides, it's not like I really need to go to that bar anyways. When I'm in the mood to spend, then I don't mind going to that bar even if the bg will come by. It's alot easier to say no to bgs when you're not horny. But, what if you are horny by her? This is where you end up spending more than you thought you would. You can't turn on / off your horniness.
Yup, I guess you could call it a prank. Wanted to see how she would react. I know it may seem like a waste of neko to most but just seeing her face of disgust made it worth it to me I guess.I don't blame you man for doing that hehe. It's like teaching these ROB BGs a lesson on how it feels like when the bgs just get their drink and then step away. Give um a taste of their own medicine.
I see some guys try to hard for be whitty but they no can.Yah. Some guys who be whitty, is trying hard to impress the BGs. It's like someone trying hard to not appear nervous / desperate but, the BGs can tell that he is. You can't try to be whitty with BGs in a KB if you're not whitty outside of the KB. You won't do so well in a KB. You can't try to pretend to be funny if you were never considered a funny person. If you are the type of person that likes to joke around outside of the KB, it's likely that you'll do that in the bar. It's natural for you to be doing it because you like to do that. You don't do that intentionally for the sake of impressing BGs. The guys who are needy and desperate for that BG they desire, will do things they are unwilling to want to do on their own. Right girls? Cmon, I know you reading. LOL. I think they giggling. Next thing you know the BGs look at their lover boys and say:
BGs: "Hey, you're trying to impress me huh?"
LVBs: "What? No I'm not. This is how I am really. You must believe me please"
BGs: "Prove it then. Buy me a champagne bottle right now!"
LVBs: "Okay!"
BGs: "You see! Trying to impress again"
LVBs: "I don't understand. You told me to buy champagne so, I'm buying you champagne. I'm just doing what you told me to do. How is that impressing?"
LOL.
Are you shame to say what you really think to KBGs? Are you shame to post and ask about the KBG you see and instead just read the forums hoping to find info on her? (pm me, I sat with her) Are you shame get touchy with KBGs? Are you shame complain when KBGs give junk service or demanding? Are you shame post to tell how much you spent on KBGs that robbed you and you got nothing? Are you shame go bar alone and less confident without your boys? Are you shame to ask your DKBG how she really feels about you and if she wants to be your gf or have sex with you? IF you answered yes to any of these questions, CONGRATULATIONS! You are a member of the KB SHAME CLUB. The bad news is that there are no benefits or rewards. You will NOT score with the DKBG, get play or sex. You WILL however spend MORE than us sukebe guys, LOL. There is an alternative if you willing to change small kine and be NEON. Want sex at the KB? No can be shame!
CheapCharlie
01-16-12, 09:05
Sorry to all my fellow mongers, but I turned into all the things that you guys mentioned in previous postings. Not one of my finer moments, in fact I so angry and shame that I won't even go into details about what happened. I wish I could step out of myself and punch myself in the face, then give myself a swift kick in the ass! Yes, I feel that bad about what happened. I guess I got caught up in the heat of the moment. Man, I feel so STUPID!
Sorry to all my fellow mongers, but I turned into all the things that you guys mentioned in previous postings. Not one of my finer moments, in fact I so angry and shame that I won't even go into details about what happened. I wish I could step out of myself and punch myself in the face, then give myself a swift kick in the ass! Yes, I feel that bad about what happened. I guess I got caught up in the heat of the moment. Man, I feel so STUPID!ALL of us who go bars make mistakes of all kinds every now and then. Thats the bad part of being a hostess barholic. The good news is you caught yourself from falling deeper into the bar trappings. Just my 2cents from a LEVEL 2 STUPID guy.
Sorry to all my fellow mongers, but I turned into all the things that you guys mentioned in previous postings. I wish I could step out of myself and punch myself in the face, then give myself a swift kick in the ass! Man, I feel so STUPID!So which one of us hasn't felt that way? Apology not even needed because the KBA (Korean Barholic Association ala Oldee) is an Equal Opportunity Okole. Chalk one up, my friend, and hope you came away with a little fun.
I think most guys when they have this strong attraction towards a BG, they have a tendancy to think highly of them. Especially, when she says she's not like the other BGs. She is not a goldigger and she is a good girl. So, you're led to believe and want to believe that she is different. She may say compliments about you, smile at you etc and not really hound you for drinks. You then assume that she is different from the other BGs because the other BGs have not been complimenting you, they have been hounding you for drinks and they haven't gone out with you. But, you cannot assume that she is a good girl just based on that alone. Of course, with most guys in the KBs, it's more than enough to lock them into thinking and believing that she is different. So, now that she knows you believe in her and trust her, she can then proceed to play you and do her devious things behind your back. Why? Because she knows you're at that point where you can't picture her doing any wrong to you. You felt she has already proven her trust to you. But, the problem is that you trust the BGs prematurely and she hasn't proven herself enough to confirm that she really is a good girl. That's why there's alot of guys in denial to believe that the BG they seeing is playing them. You simply cannot assume that she's different from the rest. Always take what a BG any BG may say with a grain of salt. Expect that all BGs will lie, do things behind your back and is like every other BG out there. Make her prove herself worthy to you.
I think most guys when they have this strong attraction towards a BG, they have a tendancy to think highly of them. Especially, when she says she's not like the other BGs. She is not a goldigger and she is a good girl. So, you're led to believe and want to believe that she is different. She may say compliments about you, smile at you etc and not really hound you for drinks. You then assume that she is different from the other BGs because the other BGs have not been complimenting you, they have been hounding you for drinks and they haven't gone out with you. But, you cannot assume that she is a good girl just based on that alone. Of course, with most guys in the KBs, it's more than enough to lock them into thinking and believing that she is different. So, now that she knows you believe in her and trust her, she can then proceed to play you and do her devious things behind your back. Why? Because she knows you're at that point where you can't picture her doing any wrong to you. You felt she has already proven her trust to you. But, the problem is that you trust the BGs prematurely and she hasn't proven herself enough to confirm that she really is a good girl. That's why there's alot of guys in denial to believe that the BG they seeing is playing them. You simply cannot assume that she's different from the rest. Always take what a BG any BG may say with a grain of salt. Expect that all BGs will lie, do things behind your back and is like every other BG out there. Make her prove herself worthy to you.Give yourself a hand bro. I'm sure you've provided alot of helpful and interesting reading for many mongers. Now can I have a beer for saying that? LOL
Give yourself a hand bro. I'm sure you've provided alot of helpful and interesting reading for many mongers. Now can I have a beer for saying that? LOLHeh, thanks man. I figured you were going to be the one to post this. I think 500 posts were in "Mind Of A Korean Working Girl" and the other 501 in "Korean Bar Tactics And Discussions" LOL.
So which one of us hasn't felt that way? Apology not even needed because the KBA (Korean Barholic Association ala Oldee) is an Equal Opportunity Okole. Chalk one up, my friend, and hope you came away with a little fun.First of all. Amen and ditto! For me, it is so been there / done that and will probably do it again cause I stoopit. My cure for the "I want to kick myself in the ass blues" is to mentally move on asap. Yesterday is indeed gone. Ok so amortize. Figure what you spent, figure how much you normally spend, divide it up and get back on track.
Speaking of money management. What! KBG's should not be considered as another investment. In "normal" life we invest in all sorts of things. A new gf, a house, stocks, etc. But when it comes to KBG's that should never be considered an investment."I bought her so many drinks, cannot give up now, maybe still get chance" You can add any number of familiar yarns to this, I know I have. And, indeed being a member of the KBA has dented my brain on more than one occasion cause I forget my own advice. KBG's are NOT an investment.
Some KBG's, a few, on the other hand are investors themselves. They are smart enough to know that clients will come back on a regular basis if you don't rip them on a particular evening, but they are few and far between (they may be the ones to survive a continued economic downturn). Some KBG's even don't burn their hard earned cash on a Lexus, rather, they purchase real estate or whatever other investment they're into. These are future-thinkers. They know that their commodity is perishable. Of course, just when you think you've found one of the "smart" ones, it's that night that she decides to strike cause she has sensed that you have been effectively hypnotized and will absorb the hit. Can't win guys, they too smart and play by completely different rules, ethics, and morals. Best thing I can only do is constantly remind myself that there is no investment with KBG's, there is only the purchase of a perishable. I don't go into a burger joint expecting to get free fries just because I've been there a million times before. Here's my money, give me the fries. Going into a KB is the same. Here's my money, give me a Milk Shake. Buy a house, that's an investment. Buy a drinkee, that's for transient gratification only.
Ss
I don't think any guy needs to feel shame or awkward on whatever they want to post. It's not like we who post alot are Mr know it alls. Even though some may think it to be."This guy Uki Eater he think he Mr know it all!" LOL. I think the younger guys no like post because they don't want to write something that may sound stupid / lame and they don't want to bother. It's like:
"Should I post this? Nah, sounds pretty stupid. I no like other members critisize it and then bash on me if I do"
Neva mine what people may think. Sometimes, I feel like that to when I write something. Especially, the long posts. People may read it and have some criticism about it. It's not surprising that someone will. But, it's just a forum to discuss things. Heh, if they do think that, sheesh at least I do write. Let me see you write something other than talk / think smack about what's written. So, I tell myself: "Fuck what they may think!" That's how I look at it.
It's the same mentality when I'm in a KB, I don't let the KBGs and even the other customers affect me from wanting to do / say things in the bar. As long as it's not real offensive. Don't let pressure from other people dictate what you want and don't want to do. You're in complete control. Well, only when you're not drunk and not horny. LOL.
Give yourself a hand bro. I'm sure you've provided alot of helpful and interesting reading for many mongers. Now can I have a beer for saying that? LOLSeems like only yesterday Uki was a Regular Member with 4 posts. Yes, congrats are in order. He has helped many mongers and some have dubbed him "Dr. Phil"/Dr. Uki.
I like the 'scripts' like the one below; Uki should write a KB comic strip for the papers.
While watching LVBs, showoffs, no can say no guys recently, I noticed most guys were 'regulars' of KBGs or bartenders. By regular I mean automatic neko. SUCKERS! They are KBG property and yet got to spend alot with no sex in most cases. In fact, they try to impress in all kine stupid ways. Hey LVBs, not going work. However, I will reveal a tactic that DOES WORK and very well IF you know how. Its the reverse the game tactic where you make her chase you. I'm not Brad P or Richie R but I do KNOW HOW to READ, INTEREST, and CONTROL (lead them on) the KBG. Not always, but more often than not it works. ITS EXACTLY what KBGs do to guys in REVERSE. In case you still don't understand, try to remember dating civilians when you were young. This is of course an oversimplification buy savy KBG huntas know what I mean. You will NEVER win unless you play YOUR GAME and not the KBGs'.
Howzit going Lumps bro? Haha j / k Oldee I copying you hehe. I notice when you're a new face to the bar, you'll get approached as they don't know what type of customer you are yet. But eventually, when you become a regular, they'll then know and leave you alone when they see your face more often. However, new BGs who haven't seen your face before is more likely to approach you. Unless that is the other BGs who have seen you, tell the new BGs: "Don't bother approaching him. He won't buy you drink" Or, based on the bgs initial impression of you, they may not want to bother to approach.Some BG's know my face and spending habits. One time I walked in sat down I saw a new girl eye'd me. As she was walking toward me one of the regular bgs grabbed her and shook her head. The new girl looked confused and the other girl had her turn away. I looked at the regular bg and she smiled and I just gave her a nod.
While watching LVBs, showoffs, no can say no guys recently, I noticed most guys were 'regulars' of KBGs or bartenders. By regular I mean automatic neko. SUCKERS! They are KBG property and yet got to spend alot with no sex in most cases. In fact, they try to impress in all kine stupid ways. Hey LVBs, not going work. However, I will reveal a tactic that DOES WORK and very well IF you know how. Its the reverse the game tactic where you make her chase you. I'm not Brad P or Richie R but I do KNOW HOW to READ, INTEREST, and CONTROL (lead them on) the KBG. Not always, but more often than not it works. ITS EXACTLY what KBGs do to guys in REVERSE. In case you still don't understand, try to remember dating civilians when you were young. This is of course an oversimplification buy savy KBG huntas know what I mean. You will NEVER win unless you play YOUR GAME and not the KBGs'.I think that may be the problem. Maybe a LVB in a bar didn't have a civilian female chasing after him. So, if you haven't had a female who really liked you and wanted you as a BF, then you wouldn't understand how to make a female fall for you when you're too busy being the one falling for the female. The slightest sign from a BG, you already assuming she likes you. If you're too busy chasing and wanting her, you won't stand a chance when the BG you like, ends up falling and chases after someone whom she does like and is attracted to. In the meantime, you're too caught up being attracted to her not knowing if she's attracted to you in the first place. Fucked up! Hehe.
The mistake they make is that they look at it like how they would be nice to people in general. You be nice and kind to people, they be nice in return by treating you lunch, giving you a ride home, helping you move out etc. So, the guys at the bar apply this same principle with the BGs hoping they get rewarded in return. They think it's straightforward. But, in this case, it's totally different. How is it different? The reward they expect from a female at the KB will not be the reward they expect and hope for. Why not? Because women will not get turned on and attracted to you simply because you be nice and do nice things for them.
When you be nice to people in general, that's good and fine. People will see that you're kind and generous. But, you're not looking to hookup with them, arouse them and possibly have sex with them do you? Therefore, it's different. Basically, being nice is being plain / conservative and safe. With the woman that you want / desire, being strictly nice, conservative and catering to them doesn't turn them on. The same goes for us men. We don't get turned on by the needy, desperate and conservatively dressed women do we? Nope. It's not sexy and doesn't arouse / excite our senses. The things these women say, do and how they look, don't arouse us men. That's what basically most of the LVBs in the bar do with BGs.
How would you feel if a plain looking conservative woman you're not interested in wants a serious relationship, commitment, marriage and 4-6 kids with you? You'd be like: "Whoa! Whoa! Slow down woman!" Well, that's how you guys are when it comes to the BGs you want / desire. You display the soft side (feminine side) of you first before you even show your masculine side. If there is any masculine side to even show.
KBGs rely on "scoring." They trust, believe, and rely on human weaknesses; prey on the weak, injured, and elderly for the kill. There are so many easy targets that come into their sights; KBGs are spoiled and picky about their victims. Why eat hardtack when you can have filet mignon?
On the other hand it's about personal management of temptations for patrons. KBGs and KBs throw as much temptation your way as possible because they know that everyone has at least one weakness (them included) and they will capitalize on that weakness ASAP; liquor doesn't help the situation either.
It's not easy out there; the KBGs have the edge; plenty temptations to manage. What to do? Do the Las Vegas Turnaround! Put the odds in your favor and let the suckers come to you via charm, with, patience, & cunning. Gots to be a crook to catch a crook; the BSers leave real fast and the playas will stay. Watch out for the ones who play you for one neko and leave; they think they teaching you a lesson and try to get "one up." That's why you NEON; the interested ones will be back regardless of the nekos so be patient. You'll know what is meant if and when you're committed to being respected. LVBs, Goodtime Charleys, and buffoons are a dime-a-dozen anywhere.
Fortunate to have solid posters here and looking forward to future solid posters ASAP. We can all learn and have fun at the same time.
Hey Uki, I believe you are referring to the missread. LVBs want a relationship of some sort. KBGs simply want MONEY. In that quest and desire for money, KBGs put the academy award mojo best acctress performance on ADAPTING as needed to keep the performance going. When you let them know YOU KNOW this, only then can you have chance to change the game. With KBGs more money spent on them does NOT equal her liking you more, often just the opposite in fact. Of course she will gladly play the game and performance that never ends. I have had many conversations about this very subject with KBGs who are great students of this BS GAME. They are actually always practicing and improving their technique all in the pursuit of MONEY. Remember, they only take what you give them. IF you are willing to stand your ground unafraid if she leaves your side, you got a chance. KBGs take great PRIDE in converting men into LVBs. I remember on several occasions where KBGs full on cried when I wouldn't conform. I don't know if was real tears or not but told me they a serious and dedicated about the game. Take the emotions out of it if you want to see KBGs for who they are.
Overheard one old lvb at a Kalihi establishment say that he "gave her some money to play the machines"! Almost pissed myself laughing (to myself, not out loud). Man, the desperation. No be li that.
KBGs take great PRIDE in converting men into LVBs.Yup. These BGs especially the pretty ones have an Ego just like how a cocky guy can be boastful and be showing off. The women want credit and the public to know they look good. When they get that reassurance from the males who compliment them, the BGs are like.
"I am hot! Hehe. I must be because how many guys said I'm beautiful? Right?"
Just like cocky guys, the BGs head gets bigger and bigger. So, they'll assume that every guy desires them and wants them. Even when a guy is not lusting after them, they'll automatically think / assume that he is.
"Oh gawd, another guy who wants a piece of me!"
These women despite being pretty can be very self conscious of themselves. They shame to be driving or be seen in a beat up car. They try hard to look good based on their appearance. Because they look good based on their appearance, they're concerned about looking bad in other areas where they are not confident and comfortable in. It's like.
"Ahaha, is that her singing? Oh shit, she can't sing for shit!"
They avoid things that they know they're not good at because they don't want to look stupid that it ruins their image. Imagine, a below average looking guy turning down a pretty BG when she approaches him as she automatically thinks he will say yes into buying her a drink. She walks away with her pussy between her legs. LOL.
BG: "Hey guys, do you mind if I sit down?"
Group Of Guys: "Nah, that's ok. No thanks"
BG: "Shit! I can't believe they said no to me. Assholes!"
LOL.
Unlike KBM, I don't golf, but I do go fishing. I find KBGs to be exellent fisherwomen of men. Long ago oldtimers may have seen the old ladys in the ala wai on those wooden platforms fishing for mullet? Anyway, they always outfished the men because they had the 'touch'. Next time you go bar, watch them hook the men. Hi, my name Julie, whats your name? Monger- Nemo. KBG- nice to meet you nemo, may I join you? Nemo- OK. Zzzzzz HANAPA'A, fish on! I hour and 10 nekos later, still blue balls Nemo wonders what happened. Is that something you have experienced? Be honest now. NO? LIAR! LOL Most of us have experienced this. Some of you are USED TO this everytime you go bar. The Jellyfish guy. IF you want to have fun being a NEON spectator, watch all the variations of this. IF however you see a monger with octopus hands having FUN, it may be SS or me, LOL.
Unlike KBM, I don't golf, but I do go fishing. I find KBGs to be exellent fisherwomen of men. Long ago oldtimers may have seen the old ladys in the ala wai on those wooden platforms fishing for mullet? Anyway, they always outfished the men because they had the 'touch'. Next time you go bar, watch them hook the men. Hi, my name Julie, whats your name? Monger- Nemo. KBG- nice to meet you nemo, may I join you? Nemo- OK. Zzzzzz HANAPA'A, fish on! I hour and 10 nekos later, still blue balls Nemo wonders what happened. Is that something you have experienced? Be honest now. NO? LIAR! LOL Most of us have experienced this. Some of you are USED TO this everytime you go bar. The Jellyfish guy. IF you want to have fun being a NEON spectator, watch all the variations of this. IF however you see a monger with octopus hands having FUN, it may be SS or me, LOL.Ya got me laughing pretty hard Oldee. What a spot on comparison. It's so true. I have seen women fishermen outfish men many times all because they have "the touch". And, as an aside, mullet really are tough to catch with line and hook and do indeed require a special "touch" to be caught that way. Us guys have no patience for that style and just thro-net. Seen the thro-net style in the bars too but usually just come up with coral chunks aka blue balls. Best baits for fishing is either patience or grenades. Same is true in the bars, but, I don't have patience usually LOL. What I got octopus hands! LOL You are right! And, in fact, have warned KBG's several times in the past "If I buy you drinkee I got to warn ya I get Octopus Arms" then I reach around their back (from say the right side) and grab their left tittie (they anticipating a right tittie grab have set the wrong blocking position). Good fun!
Ss
Unlike KBM, I don't golf, but I do go fishing. I find KBGs to be exellent fisherwomen of men. Long ago oldtimers may have seen the old ladys in the ala wai on those wooden platforms fishing for mullet? Anyway, they always outfished the men because they had the 'touch'. Next time you go bar, watch them hook the men. Hi, my name Julie, whats your name? Monger- Nemo. KBG- nice to meet you nemo, may I join you? Nemo- OK. Zzzzzz HANAPA'A, fish on! I hour and 10 nekos later, still blue balls Nemo wonders what happened. Is that something you have experienced? Be honest now. NO? LIAR! LOL Most of us have experienced this. Some of you are USED TO this everytime you go bar. The Jellyfish guy. IF you want to have fun being a NEON spectator, watch all the variations of this. IF however you see a monger with octopus hands having FUN, it may be SS or me, LOL.I agree with you but I also know that BG use fishing in a slightly different sense. My ex (a former VB owner) used to tell me "This business is like fishing. Some times you sit there all night and then just as you are thinking about giving up, you get the bite." They also refer to a good customer as a "big fish." I am sure you must have heard this from them.
I agree with you but I also know that BG use fishing in a slightly different sense. My ex (a former VB owner) used to tell me "This business is like fishing. Some times you sit there all night and then just as you are thinking about giving up, you get the bite." They also refer to a good customer as a "big fish." I am sure you must have heard this from them.Their analogy of it is different on how they look at it. A certain customer to them may be a big fish in that he's a big spender. They get excited by that. Most of the other customers to them are just little fishes that can't really feed (spend) on the BGs. They feel they only take up space in the bar. But, its not often that they'll get the big fish though. Instead of ignoring the smaller fishes, smaller fishes when you look at a majority of them, can feed (spend) on you. They may not be that 1 big fish but many fishes spending on the BG can equate to that 1 big fish.
The problem though is the BGs don't want to be dealing with too many small fishes. She no like be giving HJ, BJ, Titties to this young guy, old guy, desperate guy, needy guy, horny guy, ugly guy etc, etc, etc. Plus, if its just dealing with 1 big fish, she can be more discreet. But, BGs got to remember though, not all of them will land them the big fish, so, they have no choice but to settle on the smaller fishes if they expect to survive.
The hot BG (fisherwoman) , she knows she doesn't need to settle for that 1 fish (customer) when there's other fishes she can catch because she has the bait to lure them in. If she don't care for that fish, just dump it back into the water. The ones she decides to keep, she's thinking: "Are you a great catch for me to keep? Nah, this guy too cheap, dump him back into the water. Hmm. What about this guy? Too tsukeke! What about this? *sigh* it's the same damn fish! Shit!"
LOL.
I agree with you but I also know that BG use fishing in a slightly different sense. My ex (a former VB owner) used to tell me "This business is like fishing. Some times you sit there all night and then just as you are thinking about giving up, you get the bite." They also refer to a good customer as a "big fish." I am sure you must have heard this from them.I was talking to Thu at happiness one time and asked her how she can stay in business because everytime I go there, its empty or just 1 or 2 customers at most. She told me the same thing in so many words. Hehe. Still, those fish got to be 1000pound Blue Marlin or 200pound ahi at least I think, LOL.
While drinking at various bars recently, I noticed its the same regulars and lots of the older retiree age guys making up a big percentage of KB patrons. Not many younger guys 30 and younger or new to KB guys. Its the same faces at all the bars. Right now KBs cater to the older LVBs because they spend. However, I'm thinking there's a time coming soon when they just going to be too old to go bar and then what? There's no new generation to take their place! I don't know if thats good or bad for us but I hope they change and adapt. Younger guys are internet savy and less in the dark than old fut LVBs. Combine that with a bad economy and KBs days seem numbered to me KBs laugh at our wishes for better service now but imagine if the majority of KB goers were forum readers. Its seems the downward trend is starting already. Unlike VBs that have a younger crowd, KBs depend on old and trained LVBs, but it won't last forever. The LVB army won't last forever. You mamas better wise up and change before its too late.
Combine that with a bad economy and KBs days seem numbered to me KBs laugh at our wishes for better service now but imagine if the majority of KB goers were forum readers.You never know Oldee. 5-7 years ago at London Hub one of the ladies brought up the internet because we were asking for the infamous Kyong. That was over 5 years ago. Imagine how many bars, AMPs, MTs and people in general have heard about this site by now? If these places know, gurans customers know to. They're just readers. Too bad you didn't come on this forum earlier when had Hostess8O8 posting. It was good fun. A BG against all the mongers. That time, I was still a regular member. Some guys were falling for her because of what she was writing. Some of them even went down to see her at the bar in Kalihi.
Yeah Uki, would have loved to have been around for back and forth posting with that H808 girl. I'd love to hear their perspectives on US and gripes etc. Its not like they could bs like they do LVBs in the bars after all. Info is info and good for all of us. This site is no secret after all. So, KBGs, how about posting your side of things. Hey LVB spies, help your DKBG to write if she not good in engish. Welcome ladys! BTW, who was this H808? Did they ever know who her bar name was or bar she worked at?
Welcome ladys! BTW, who was this H808? Did they ever know who her bar name was or bar she worked at?I think was Vegas. But, as far as the name, not sure. I think the guys who met her do know her name. Then, they were defending her. Hehe.
Oldee, I bet you if BGs created a screen name and started posting their views. Guys who read going be interested in her. Especially, if she is able to write in a fluent articulate manner. Then he be like:
"Hmm who is this BG? Where she work? She sounds pretty intelligent for a BG. Let me private message her"
LOL.
I think was Vegas. But, as far as the name, not sure. I think the guys who met her do know her name. Then, they were defending her. Hehe.
Oldee, I bet you if BGs created a screen name and started posting their views. Guys who read going be interested in her. Especially, if she is able to write in a fluent articulate manner. Then he be like:
"Hmm who is this BG? Where she work? She sounds pretty intelligent for a BG. Let me private message her"
LOL.I bet you was getting turned on by her ah Uki, LOL. If she sounded hot, why not? LOL. I wouldn't neccessarily defend her but sure wouldn't bash her unless she was telling BS. No can BS here so no problem. I love you KBGS, LOL. No need be intelligent, just put out or fun, LOL.
I bet you was getting turned on by her ah Uki, LOL. If she sounded hot, why not? LOL. I wouldn't neccessarily defend her but sure wouldn't bash her unless she was telling BS. No can BS here so no problem. I love you KBGS, LOL. No need be intelligent, just put out or fun, LOL.Uhmm, I uhmmm did PM her once but, no reply.
I bet you was getting turned on by her ah Uki, LOL. If she sounded hot, why not? LOL. I wouldn't neccessarily defend her but sure wouldn't bash her unless she was telling BS. No can BS here so no problem. I love you KBGS, LOL. No need be intelligent, just put out or fun, LOL.There were supposedly two posting BGs here at one time. One a KBG; the other a BG who was a Latina, or nonKBG, anyway. As Uki posted, these supposed two separate BGs (could have been one with two names) caused a ruckus here, ending with some guys supposedly going to meet one of them. The meeting was reported; the BG was described as a troll Latina and worked at either You & I or Vegas II. No more posts after that. It was one of few highlights of this board because some guys really became lit up and were eager for the beaver. I was amused and enjoyed the back-and-forth teasing and exchange of views.
There are LVBs and KBGs cruising this site no doubt. They no like join in because skaid of the backlash of their jobs and weak backbones from others. No skaid join in the fun like Oldee and others suggest because it's all about addressing issues anonymously; what's better than that? We know you like be heard so no worry about the technicalities and teach us a thing or three.
ThirteenTwenty
01-21-12, 07:59
Still no joy with getting any real action from the KBs. Other than some quick peeks at the goods and some rubbing not much, I'm hoping that it's just because the girls are still getting use to me and once they've figured me out it'll be game on. I have noticed that they don't fish for as many drinks as they used to, and are spending more time just "hanging out". I don't recall the girls name, mostly because I have a hard time understanding them (I've got hearing damage) but I do recall what they look like for return visits. A few more weeks and we'll see where I'm at. A few more weeks and I'll start back at the AMPs or start looking at other providers, but will keep plugging away.
I do have a couple of questions, if this is the wrong place please move / remove to the correct area.
I've seen a few acronyms floating around and wonder what they mean. A / S/L I'm guessing doesn't mean age / sex / location. But is some sort of rating system. The other is NEON. Whats it all mean?
Uhmm, I uhmmm did PM her once but, no reply.My hunch is that your screen name probably scared her along with the fact you didn't defend her, LOL. Women like men to kiss ass bro, LOL.
While walking by a KB, a KBG hailed me but I didn't want to go inside and just sat down with her on the chairs outside. Of course got the lets go inside urging but I held firm wanting to test her patience. After about 10 minutes, I finally said, if one of your customers don't come in the next 5 minutes, I'll go in. Sure enough a LVB showed up and was saved. I got the hug and gn kiss which I'm guessing the LVB did too but I'm also guessing he paid at least a benji for it (she's a hottie) and mines was free, LOL. At another bar, a KBG did the usual try to get neko routine but I held firm all the while thinking how true Kapakahi's advice is. They respect the non LVBs more. Nice girl and I may buy her next time after I think I got HER TRAINED, LOL. As usual, I watched all the nekos being bought by the LVB army who never gets play and did recon for later second shift targets. Seen many LVBs boast about themselves or kiss ass but not be interesting to KBGs other than the nekos. When they more interested in you rather than get nekos, THEN you are interesting. Not that I am but I get lucky sometimes so I know this. Anyhow, spectator watching can be fun if its not a lucky playgirl night.
Guys,
If you want, I have some new stories even I wouldn't believe but will pm you guys if you want to. Don't want to share with forum but this is how my kbg is with me. Let me know.
Aloha
Guys,
If you want, I have some new stories even I wouldn't believe but will pm you guys if you want to. Don't want to share with forum but this is how my kbg is with me. Let me know.
AlohaI hope you are doing well these days regardless of what I may or may not believe about your situation Keola. I've seen and heard many unbeiveable stories that were true in the KB world so may as well hear yours.
My hunch is that your screen name probably scared her along with the fact you didn't defend her, LOL. Women like men to kiss ass bro, LOL.Yes. My screen name Is a turn off. I actually had another screen name before but forgot. I wasn't able to write or reply back then. In fact, in the AMP thread, I believe this AMP provider posted a comment on something I wrote.
Originally Posted by Porsha.
"Some of these cheap nasty working girl eating pussy tricks needs to shut the f@ck Up and stop whining. I bet your one of those fat and nasty cheap looking trick can't get no pussy somewhere else. I see you like to eat pussy. You nasty! Pink is the best place for you I guess. Because as far as I know they bbj, and swallow for cheap deal. Nasty tricks is for nasty cheap working girl! Hahaha. It's our body and we can do what we want with it! You can have your 80 bucks hahaha! Cheap nasty fat f@cker."
I realize what she's saying is true about me but sheesh, that's not nice.
There were supposedly two posting BGs here at one time. One a KBG; the other a BG who was a Latina, or nonKBG, anyway. As Uki posted, these supposed two separate BGs (could have been one with two names) caused a ruckus here, ending with some guys supposedly going to meet one of them. The meeting was reported; the BG was described as a troll Latina and worked at either You & I or Vegas II. No more posts after that. It was one of few highlights of this board because some guys really became lit up and were eager for the beaver. I was amused and enjoyed the back-and-forth teasing and exchange of views.
There are LVBs and KBGs cruising this site no doubt. They no like join in because skaid of the backlash of their jobs and weak backbones from others. No skaid join in the fun like Oldee and others suggest because it's all about addressing issues anonymously; what's better than that? We know you like be heard so no worry about the technicalities and teach us a thing or three.Now I remember it. There was one BG in Kalihi at Vegas, but she moved to another bar. There was also a KBG that I'm pretty sure was at Camelot because she kept bashing on Kelly. Now that I think about it, I believe there was one more BG that posted here, but her posts were more informational.
BGs Confidence.
1. These BGs focus attention on themselves and making the money.
2. Know they have options. They know they can get another customer to buy her a drink or spend on her.
3. Don't let their emotions come into play that easily despite customers courting them.
4. Assume that most if not all KB customers are bad/unworthy until a customer can prove them otherwise. She's the queen.
5. They have their guard up and are cautious of each customer they sit with.
6. BGs utilize the player mentality when seeing several different customers."Fuck this customer. Next!"
7. They stop, think, hesitate, assume things before they follow through on something. They think before they consider doing.
8. They don't get sexually turned on that easily. They can control their urges more so than men.
9. They don't easily fall for a customer. Why? Because guys are literally offering their love and affection to them.
10. Typically the aggressor who approaches the customers and pushes on the drinks.
11. Like to play their mind games on customers to take advantage.
LVBs Lack Of Confidence.
1. Don't really focus on themselves but focus attention on that one BG and pleasing others.
2. Feel they don't have much if any options. Therefore, they spend and focus so much attention on that 1 BG.
3. Let their emotions come into play. They get offended, defensive, lovey dovey, sensitive, mad. Sheesh you name it.
4. Assume that the BGs are good / innocent/worthy even though she hasn't done much to prove why she's considered good/worthy. He's the servant.
5. They don't have their guard up. They go gung ho, full speed for a BG that they really like.
6. They don't utilize the player mentality as they are too into that 1 BG to bother seeing any other BGs."What's that player mentality?"
7. They don't really think / assume things. They basically just do it and think about things / consequenes afterwards.
8. They get turned on easily by the BGs dress, smell, boobs, ass. Horny already.
9. BG looks pretty, he's in love already. They do so much to prove their love in hopes that the BGs will feel the same in return. Take away her looks / attraction, what else do you love about her?
10. Customers are passive waiting for the BGs to approach. They're also not aggressive in making the move and give in to buying drinks.
11. Don't do their own mind games. Most guys are not like that. Therefore, they get played.
As Oldee mentions about Reversing The Game. Do the opposite of what LVBs are doing. Between the two listed above, who's the smart one?
Its as simple as that if you want action. Don't play the LVB hang out game if you there for play. Simple. BTW, its attitude / sex / looks as to your asl question and Not even one neko for NEON.
Its as simple as that if you want action. Don't play the LVB hang out game if you there for play. Simple. BTW, its attitude / sex / looks as to your asl question and Not even one neko for NEON.Wow Oldee your so helpful and patient. When I used to ask those kind of questions, Head lock would always tell me RTFF! LOL! If your out there HL no disrespect.
Still no joy with getting any real action from the KBs. Other than some quick peeks at the goods and some rubbing not much, I'm hoping that it's just because the girls are still getting use to me and once they've figured me out it'll be game on. I have noticed that they don't fish for as many drinks as they used to, and are spending more time just "hanging out". I don't recall the girls name, mostly because I have a hard time understanding them (I've got hearing damage) but I do recall what they look like for return visits. A few more weeks and we'll see where I'm at. A few more weeks and I'll start back at the AMPs or start looking at other providers, but will keep plugging away.
I do have a couple of questions, if this is the wrong place please move / remove to the correct area.
I've seen a few acronyms floating around and wonder what they mean. A / S/L I'm guessing doesn't mean age / sex / location. But is some sort of rating system. The other is NEON. Whats it all mean?Under FAQ on the forum heading check the forum terms and abbreviation section for more information. Someone should try and contact Jackson to update the list with these new abbreviations.
Wow Oldee your so helpful and patient. When I used to ask those kind of questions, Head lock would always tell me RTFF! LOL! If your out there HL no disrespect.Haha, I'm a noob on many things so understand. Hell, I'm even a noob on KBs in many respects. BTW, Uki, how long you took to write that? You really should write the KB handbook, LOL.
Its as simple as that if you want action. Don't play the LVB hang out game if you there for play. Simple. BTW, its attitude / sex / looks as to your asl question and Not even one neko for NEON.I doubt if NEON is in Jackson's list so it is proper to define it. Beyond that, I would guess for a real newbie you may need to explain that neko=nekohana=ladies drink. Not sure about the origins, proper spelling, or literal meaning of nekohana. Any Korean speaking mongers feel free to correct me or add on.
ThirteenTwenty
01-22-12, 04:45
Its as simple as that if you want action. Don't play the LVB hang out game if you there for play. Simple. BTW, its attitude / sex / looks as to your asl question and Not even one neko for NEON.I guess I'll have to change my tactics a bit more, was never good at the KB thing, just trying to get the hang of it and expand the horizons a bit LOL. Or maybe I just choose badly LOL. And much thanks for the definitions.
Under FAQ on the forum heading check the forum terms and abbreviation section for more information. Someone should try and contact Jackson to update the list with these new abbreviations.Took a look at the FAQs and didn't see the NEON one, and don't recall the a / s/l bit.)
Neko= (for) me; hana=one. Not Even One Neko; neko=abbreviated nekohana. NEON=not buying nekos.
It got so involved with the supposed KBG posters that I think two of three were banned from posting. Anyway, I used to see Dallas pounding away on her device and wondered if she was a poster on this forum; the posts certainly had her voice and character. Last heard she's working as a cocktail waitress at some Kuhio Ave. Hotel; saw her jogging along the Ala Wai canal many months ago; she was getting bussup for sure.
KB (dayshift) hopping reveals that times are skimpy for KBGs. So much so that pupus are nonexistent except for the peanuts / chips combo; LVBs get the pupu spread (poke, fried chicken, attention, etc.) for their $60-100; guys bringing their own pupus already (plate lunches, tacos, etc.) ; no complaints from the KBGs so far. The KBGs are killing themselves anyway with their selective attitudes; I still the Rock of NEON and not in any rush to have KBGs show me their actress talents.
No forget to join and contribute to the forum; I know you KBGs and LVBs are eager to be heard and enlighten us with your insight (s) and expertise. Good guys here (Oldee, Uki, JR, SS, ILTW, KBM, UH, and company).
BTW, Uki, how long you took to write that? You really should write the KB handbook, LOL.Not long because I had that already written / saved on my phone like a week ago. But, I added a few more to it. I like writing alot of mental stuff about how these KBGs think as they haven't really changed. They basically all think the same and they're no different on the mind games that civilian women pull. The assuming, hinting, lieing, thinking, teasing, testing, having their guard up, high maka maka shit etc.
Neko= (for) me; hana=one. Not Even One Neko; neko=abbreviated nekohana. NEON=not buying nekos.
It got so involved with the supposed KBG posters that I think two of three were banned from posting. Anyway, I used to see Dallas pounding away on her device and wondered if she was a poster on this forum; the posts certainly had her voice and character. Last heard she's working as a cocktail waitress at some Kuhio Ave. Hotel; saw her jogging along the Ala Wai canal many months ago; she was getting bussup for sure.
KB (dayshift) hopping reveals that times are skimpy for KBGs. So much so that pupus are nonexistent except for the peanuts / chips combo; LVBs get the pupu spread (poke, fried chicken, attention, etc.) for their $60-100; guys bringing their own pupus already (plate lunches, tacos, etc.) ; no complaints from the KBGs so far. The KBGs are killing themselves anyway with their selective attitudes; I still the Rock of NEON and not in any rush to have KBGs show me their actress talents.
No forget to join and contribute to the forum; I know you KBGs and LVBs are eager to be heard and enlighten us with your insight (s) and expertise. Good guys here (Oldee, Uki, JR, SS, ILTW, KBM, UH, and company).This is a scary one. Nani (Hilltop) is bartending at Blue Sea and still offers great pupus like poke, steak. However, you also have to endure her sometimes bad attitude (she's really mellowing these days)
Hello Kitty
01-23-12, 13:22
KB (dayshift) hopping reveals that times are skimpy for KBGs. So much so that pupus are nonexistent except for the peanuts / chips combo; LVBs get the pupu spread (poke, fried chicken, attention, etc.) for their $60-100.Yes, us lvbs always get good food thats why I'm fat and getting bigger . Sorry to say I only leave $ 40 tip.
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Warriors808
01-23-12, 15:51
Yes, us lvbs always get good food thats why I'm fat and getting bigger. Sorry to say I only leave $ 40 tip.
162256Wow that is some ono kind grindz! Seems like you get good service. I generally too leave tip based on about $10 order plus a little extra. Usually one neko. I realize that the food cost is paid by the kbg bartendress. But if there is several guys to share the cost then comes out to about $40 per person for the food and drinks. Not too bad.
Captin Crunch
01-23-12, 16:08
Yes, us lvbs always get good food thats why I'm fat and getting bigger. Sorry to say I only leave $ 40 tip.
162256Looks good grindz. Call me when you get plenty pupus. I come help you eat.
Whenever I go Camelot, I see 2 kinds of younger LVBs. The ones there just to look and don't know what to do and the gf seekers. KBGs call you guys young booys. The only there to look guys are mostly ignored as cheap and tunt ta dan types. The gf hunters are prized as easy marks that can be easily fooled and controlled. How do I know this? KBGs have told me this and ask for advice sometimes on understanding you guys better. Why? Sorry to say but its just to keep the LVB spending and interested. I do not think there are ANY exceptions these days as most young KBGs already have bfs including YOUR DKBG. If you are a younger guy that was a LVB, you KNOW this or seen your LVB buddy go through it. Think you had advantage over older guys because you young and handsome? LOL. Only money and game counts in KBs and older guys usually got more of both. Don't believe me? Ask your DKBG, LOL.
Didn't forget the older LVBs. It may surprise you but MOST older LVBs are NOT looking for sex or a wife. The perfect customer for KBGs! They just want companionship and attention. Then there are the obssessed / crazy types but luckily they usually not many of them or dangerous. Then theres the showoffs spend plenty but usually only get lip service kiss ass and no sex. Actually, LVBs are happy to be LVBs because they rather eat crumbs than starve. Did you know dogs wouldn't like bones so much if you gave them steak MEAT everyday? LOL
Wow that is some ono kind grindz! Seems like you get good service. I generally too leave tip based on about $10 order plus a little extra. Usually one neko. I realize that the food cost is paid by the kbg bartendress. But if there is several guys to share the cost then comes out to about $40 per person for the food and drinks. Not too bad.Don't have to be LVB to get food. Yes the food cost is paid by the kbg bartendress so think about it, if the bartendress gives you $30 to $40 worth of food then you leave 5 dollar tip, what kind of food and service do you think your going to get next time. I'm not defending the KBG but you don't get anything for free.
Hello Kitty
01-23-12, 21:39
Don't have to be LVB to get food. Yes the food cost is paid by the kbg bartendress so think about it, if the bartendress gives you $30 to $40 worth of food then you leave 5 dollar tip, what kind of food and service do you think your going to get next time. I'm not defending the KBG but you don't get anything for free.Yes notthing is free but I'm a lvb. Salmon and shimp was still cooking on the stove when I took that pic and I don't talk much to the bartender. Maybe because I'm fat and not good looking so all bartender pity me.
Don't have to be LVB to get food. I'm not defending the KBG but you don't get anything for free.There are old buggahs in their eighties (no typo) who arrive early by appointment to kaukau poji at KBs such as Kools, One Way, Blue Sea, Pisces, and other sleaze places. The KBGs are in their late thirties and forties who allow these guys DATY and whatever kinks they got befir the place officially opens. Of course, it costs the old guys $100 for about five minutes of diving; same price for takeout. Pretty sure these KBGs are someone's DKBG or SO elsewhere.
Yes, you don't have to be an LVB to dine and nothing is free. BTW, these eighty somethings have a good appetite and are just as devious and pilau as the mainstream guys; they just get theirs at different times and places. Hope I'm that frisky at 80+.
Yes notthing is free but I'm a lvb. Salmon and shimp was still cooking on the stove when I took that pic and I don't talk much to the bartender. Maybe because I'm fat and not good looking so all bartender pity me.Must be I'm not ugly and I'm not fat, LOL. Bartenders usually make out ok. They can sense who to give food to and who not to. Local guys know it aint free and don't want the bartendress to lose out. Its one of the FEW situations we have control. Long ago, its ALWAYS been about the TIP more than nekos. Yes, sometimes they lose out but rarely or dont lose too much.
Whenever I go Camelot, I see 2 kinds of younger LVBs. The ones there just to look and don't know what to do and the gf seekers. KBGs call you guys young booys. The only there to look guys are mostly ignored as cheap and tunt ta dan types. The gf hunters are prized as easy marks that can be easily fooled and controlled. How do I know this? KBGs have told me this and ask for advice sometimes on understanding you guys better. Why? Sorry to say but its just to keep the LVB spending and interested. I do not think there are ANY exceptions these days as most young KBGs already have bfs including YOUR DKBG. If you are a younger guy that was a LVB, you KNOW this or seen your LVB buddy go through it. Think you had advantage over older guys because you young and handsome? LOL. Only money and game counts in KBs and older guys usually got more of both. Don't believe me? Ask your DKBG, LOL.
Didn't forget the older LVBs. It may surprise you but MOST older LVBs are NOT looking for sex or a wife. The perfect customer for KBGs! They just want companionship and attention. Then there are the obssessed / crazy types but luckily they usually not many of them or dangerous. Then theres the showoffs spend plenty but usually only get lip service kiss ass and no sex. Actually, LVBs are happy to be LVBs because they rather eat crumbs than starve. Did you know dogs wouldn't like bones so much if you gave them steak MEAT everyday? LOLGood stuff Oldee. I enjoy seeing long stuff like this. You know, makes you think type postings. People both KBG and Customers who reading be like: "Damn, that's true. Shit! I'm doing pretty much exactly the same thing. Damn, feel shame now"
Hello Kitty
01-24-12, 04:13
its ALWAYS been about the TIP more than nekos.Not anymore, try put $20 or $40 and tell them tip or drink and watch them go for the drink. I still don't get when she can have all the tip but go for the drink and have to pay little to the bar.
Good stuff Oldee. I enjoy seeing long stuff like this. You know, makes you think type postings. People both KBG and Customers who reading be like: "Damn, that's true. Shit! I'm doing pretty much exactly the same thing. Damn, feel shame now"Haha, only thought of posting that after reading your post. Actually, not many guys may like our posts Uki, LOL. Not that I care but it may not be interesting to them but sometimes what you write MAY strike a nerve to a LVB so they see the light. You write a million words and if you lucky, someone might suddenly relate after 999, 999 words didn't before. Keep on posting bro. I apologize to most of you that get bored but theres always the scroll control, LOL.
There are old buggahs in their eighties (no typo) who arrive early by appointment to kaukau poji at KBs such as Kools, One Way, Blue Sea, Pisces, and other sleaze places. Hope I'm that frisky at 80+.Haha, I hope I going be like that too, LOL. Sometimes I see those kine guys scooping KBGs sitting at the bar from the back of the KBGs back and they let the hand roam, LOL. They are the true dirty old men. I hope I grow up to be like them except I going play first then say I forgot my money because I get dementia, LOL.
Haha, only thought of posting that after reading your post. Actually, not many guys may like our posts Uki, LOL. Not that I care but it may not be interesting to them but sometimes what you write MAY strike a nerve to a LVB so they see the light. You write a million words and if you lucky, someone might suddenly relate after 999, 999 words didn't before. Keep on posting bro. I apologize to most of you that get bored but theres always the scroll control, LOL.You mean the BGs Confidence vs LVBs Lack Of Confidence post? Hehe. I don't think LVBs would have been able to come up with that as their minds are just too distracted and one track minded. It takes a non KBGholic mind to see this. I have LVB friends out there but, there's no way they could take a BG seriously as a potential mate. Why not? Because the odds of finding a good one who's not spoiled is very slim. If she's working at the bar seeing other guys, she may say she's not seeing another man and don't care for him but, how much can she hold out until she gives into an offer by another male customer at the bar? Maybe for the time being she'll stick with you. That Is, until another customer has more to offer to her and she eventually weighs her options and decides to change her mind and go with the other guy. It's similar to how females jump around with their jobs. They apply one place, work there a little while and then quit. Apply another place then quit. They bored and not satisfied with the job / pay. That's how KBGs are with the men they see at the KB. They see men as just a job that they can quit / leave and find another one. Civilian women can do this also but, because a BGs job is to interact with alot of different men at the bar, she gets approached and courted more often than civilians. The BGs job gives the other non lover boy customers like Tsukebes a reason to get a piece of her. If a civilian female has a BF, tsukebe guys can try get a piece of her but, the chances of this is lesser as they don't want to deal with the dramas / consequences of messing with another guys chick. But, a BG at a bar, it's like fair game where it gives them a reason to because they are BGs and that BGs see other men anyway.
Have you guys ever noticed how KBGs always check their faces every chance they get? Bartenders always looking at the mirror and KBGs with their makeup mirrors powdering their faces etc? Anyhow, one time I was sitting with a KBG who pulled out her mirror to check her face so I told her, I got something thats BETTER than a mirror to tell you how you look. Naturally ALL KBGs would want that but of course no such thing right? Of course she said no way etc but I said I am serious and quickly put my hand in my pants pocket making like I held somthing there. She quickly grabbed my arm to pull out my hand but I stopped her. Then she said she don't believe me. I then said ok, I bet you 5 beers against 5 neko that I did have it. She thought about it thinking she can't lose but even if she did, would get to see what I had so she said ok. Then I said what I have is very valuable and you must pay off if you lose and promise not to get mad when she lost She said ok.. With my left and right index fingers, I quickly pointed at my eyes and mouth, saying ' a mirror is only a REFLECTION and cannot talk. I SEE the REAL YOU and can TELL you how you look' LOL. I got my beers but also bought her a few. She never took out her mirror after that, LOL.
Twofingers In
01-25-12, 07:11
Have you guys ever noticed how KBGs always check their faces every chance they get? Bartenders always looking at the mirror and KBGs with their makeup mirrors powdering their faces etc? Anyhow, one time I was sitting with a KBG who pulled out her mirror to check her face so I told her, I got something thats BETTER than a mirror to tell you how you look. Naturally ALL KBGs would want that but of course no such thing right? Of course she said no way etc but I said I am serious and quickly put my hand in my pants pocket making like I held somthing there. She quickly grabbed my arm to pull out my hand but I stopped her. Then she said she don't believe me. I then said ok, I bet you 5 beers against 5 neko that I did have it. She thought about it thinking she can't lose but even if she did, would get to see what I had so she said ok. Then I said what I have is very valuable and you must pay off if you lose and promise not to get mad when she lost She said ok. With my left and right index fingers, I quickly pointed at my eyes and mouth, saying ' a mirror is only a REFLECTION and cannot talk. I SEE the REAL YOU and can TELL you how you look' LOL. I got my beers but also bought her a few. She never took out her mirror after that, LOL.I'm a guy with very few words "you look Hot!" or " you "UGLY"
Have you guys ever noticed how KBGs always check their faces every chance they get? Bartenders always looking at the mirror and KBGs with their makeup mirrors powdering their faces etc? Anyhow, one time I was sitting with a KBG who pulled out her mirror to check her face so I told her, I got something thats BETTER than a mirror to tell you how you look. Naturally ALL KBGs would want that but of course no such thing right? Of course she said no way etc but I said I am serious and quickly put my hand in my pants pocket making like I held somthing there. She quickly grabbed my arm to pull out my hand but I stopped her. Then she said she don't believe me. I then said ok, I bet you 5 beers against 5 neko that I did have it. She thought about it thinking she can't lose but even if she did, would get to see what I had so she said ok. Then I said what I have is very valuable and you must pay off if you lose and promise not to get mad when she lost She said ok. With my left and right index fingers, I quickly pointed at my eyes and mouth, saying ' a mirror is only a REFLECTION and cannot talk. I SEE the REAL YOU and can TELL you how you look' LOL. I got my beers but also bought her a few. She never took out her mirror after that, LOL.Yeah, everytime they pass a mirror they do that especially at Mayas with all those mirrors around. But has anyone witnessed the transformation? You see a KBG that looks hot but when you call them over and they sit next to you they don't seem hot looking anymore. You start noticing things that turn you off and you wish you had made a better choice.
You see a KBG that looks hot but when you call them over and they sit next to you they don't seem hot looking anymore. You start noticing things that turn you off and you wish you had made a better choice.Yup, been there bro. Thats why I try to imagine what they would look like without makeup these days. HOWEVER, when jr gets excited and the drunker I get, the more beautifut KBGs become, LOL.
Last year was really slow too but so far 20! 2 may turn out to be pivotal year for the KB business as a whole. Theres hardly any KB reports these days and mostly same few people report. Everyone seems to just want to know who plays only, hehe. Or LVBs seeing if someone wrote about their DKBG, hehe. Service still junk altho it seems less spurging by the LVBs these days. Thats why I was amusing myself with LVB spectator watching when I couldn't find a good playgirl. Nekos seem to last longer or is that just me? I know alot of members go but hardly post and wish they did, otherwise boring! Wasnt the KBR thread one of the busiest threads? Now its dead. What do you guys think?
Last year was really slow too but so far 20! 2 may turn out to be pivotal year for the KB business as a whole. Theres hardly any KB reports these days and mostly same few people report. Everyone seems to just want to know who plays only, hehe. Or LVBs seeing if someone wrote about their DKBG, hehe. Service still junk altho it seems less spurging by the LVBs these days. Thats why I was amusing myself with LVB spectator watching when I couldn't find a good playgirl. Nekos seem to last longer or is that just me? I know alot of members go but hardly post and wish they did, otherwise boring! Wasnt the KBR thread one of the busiest threads? Now its dead. What do you guys think?Well, I actually asked a girl at Butterfly if I could sit with her and she gave a blank stare then ignored me; another said "no" and looked like she was holding back a ton of laughter. Both preferred to play games on their phones. Some girls actually play on an iPad.
They weren't the first, either. One time the ms at another bar tried to introduce such a girl to me; the girl recognized me and I gave the ms an earful about how unfriendly and stuck-up the girl was, and why the hell should I spend money there. They then both had "OOPS!" stamped on their faces.
I don't go to KBs nearly as much as when I used to post more, and have not been to Makaloa Sandy's in many weeks with no intention of returning unless the friendly hotties return. The main reason is lack of service or inferior attitude of the girls in KBs and VBs.
But, when I do have something to contribute, I try to post such as with the friendly bartendresses at Club Casino.
I will admit that part of my increased sensitivity to the crap that goes on in bars is due to how much nicer things are in the Chinese places in CC :).
Yeah Mobi bro, I see alot of that no make sense KB logic these days. Instead of being grateful to have customers, they act like they doing you a FAVOR when they sit with you. I think the slow bars is not just because of the economy but REALLY RUDE SERVICE thats unaceptable. In my recons I only see spoiled princesses who are young 30s and younger. NO EXCEPTIONS. Think your DKBG is nice? I bet you and give you 10 to1 odds that she FAKE! This is why I always say CHOOSE WISELY and make sure you are treated as a CUSTOMER. Most or all at Camelot, Butts, Business and EG all fake. The rest of the bars, MAJORITY fake. The play girls at least give you SOMETHING and are lessor robs imo. Who can name 1 young hottie thats not fake today? YES LVBs, your DKBG is fake. When I go LVB spectator watching, I see only FAKE KBGs sitting with LVBs. However some of those fake KBGs play with me after you leave which is when they turn into REAL KBGs, LOL.
As inferred by testimonies, KBGs are fakes. Surgery, personality (or lack thereof) , etc, they're all arrogant actresses who have so much false pride and ego that they embarass and make fools of themselves. Therefore the lack of activity in the KBs and on its thread, KB Retorts.
Let them act "all that" because we'll see how long KBGs can live on arrogance, ignorance, and rudeness. They'll be advertising on CG and bathroom walls soon for escort and takeout services. So many KBGs feeling the pinch now so watching them attack LVBs and KLVBs is amusing from the sidelines. Still NEON and loving it.
So many KBGs feeling the pinch now so watching them attack LVBs and KLVBs is amusing from the sidelines. Still NEON and loving it.Watch out if you are a LVB because you will be targeted by KBGs and watched by LVB spectators, LOL. Contrary to what you may think, I'm not against any of you LVBs, after you get burned, you will understand. (hopefully). I will be watching and have fun seeing all the BS that goes on. BTW, have you ever noticed that mamas and KBGs don't know the words EXCUSE ME when they interrupt you? Especially when they want the KBG to go sit with another customer? Theres no sorry for interrupting, may I talk to her? IF this never happenned to you, you must be new to KBs, LOL. Patti, Mimi, Maya TC especially will take your partner away instantly if they get big fish or K customers. Anyhow, I will watching and laughing.
BTW, have you ever noticed that mamas and KBGs don't know the words EXCUSE ME when they interrupt you? Especially when they want the KBG to go sit with another customer? Theres no sorry for interrupting, may I talk to her?This has always been one of my pet-peeves. The plus side is when I save money by using it against the girl the next time and thereafter. The not-so-good side is that if the girl isn't too hard-headed, she will learn from it and then I'm only making things better for other guys.
I've met girls who defied 'orders' to sit at other tables; they're long-gone and I miss them. I love it when the girl says "I sit where I want!".
Sometimes one of the 'mamas' or another hostess will actually hang by the table and carry on a conversation with the girl; I've had to tell them that I'm paying for her time and to talk to her later on her own time, not mine.
This has always been one of my pet-peeves. The plus side is when I save money by using it against the girl the next time and thereafter. The not-so-good side is that if the girl isn't too hard-headed, she will learn from it and then I'm only making things better for other guys.
I've met girls who defied 'orders' to sit at other tables; they're long-gone and I miss them. I love it when the girl says "I sit where I want!".
Sometimes one of the 'mamas' or another hostess will actually hang by the table and carry on a conversation with the girl; I've had to tell them that I'm paying for her time and to talk to her later on her own time, not mine.I still see girls that defy orders especially when it's Koreans customers. I don't understand why they hang around and talk when they have all the time in the world since the bars are slow. I just tell them you have to give me $20 if you want to talk to her.
Plenty KBGs used to play the hard-to-get game; or still playing it now. In fact, some KBGs used to ignore guys because they were so busy and played the snob game; too big for their britches.
So many of these Legends are still around thinking that they're hot shat working as KBGs. It's not their fault. They act like that because still get guys spoiling them; although the fan club getting less and less, LOL. The Legends are now trying to make good with the ones they ignored in the past! Some of them KBGs even saying,"I like you from before." Gag me with a spoon! Plenty guys not going KBs as much now because it's nauseating and pitiful; good for laughs only.
Those KBGs are now Easy To Forget.
Yeah Mobi bro, I see alot of that no make sense KB logic these days. Instead of being grateful to have customers, they act like they doing you a FAVOR when they sit with you. I think the slow bars is not just because of the economy but REALLY RUDE SERVICE thats unaceptable. In my recons I only see spoiled princesses who are young 30s and younger. NO EXCEPTIONS. Think your DKBG is nice? I bet you and give you 10 to1 odds that she FAKE! This is why I always say CHOOSE WISELY and make sure you are treated as a CUSTOMER. Most or all at Camelot, Butts, Business and EG all fake. The rest of the bars, MAJORITY fake. The play girls at least give you SOMETHING and are lessor robs imo. Who can name 1 young hottie thats not fake today? YES LVBs, your DKBG is fake. When I go LVB spectator watching, I see only FAKE KBGs sitting with LVBs. However some of those fake KBGs play with me after you leave which is when they turn into REAL KBGs, LOL.Oldee, I like what ILTW mentioned before on how KBGs logic is different than ours. Our logic is foreign to them. To them, they feel that what they do, is justifiable to what they think / believe is right. So, it's like it doesn't matter what we think. We shouldn't be making a big deal about it is how they feel. What's funny to is they probably thinking:
"It's been slow these days at the KBs. I wonder why customers not coming? Oh well, play more angry birds on my phone"
It's like they have no clue on why it's slow and why customers don't want to buy LD. LOL.
"Oni! Why is it slow at the KBs?"
"I don't know. You go ask the customah"
Oldee, I like what ILTW mentioned before on how KBGs logic is different than ours. "It's been slow these days at the KBs. I wonder why customers not coming? It's like they have no clue on why it's slow and why customers don't want to buy LD. LOL. "Oni! Why is it slow at the KBs?". "I don't know. You go ask the customah"LOL. All the KBGs know that their meal ticket can arrive at random at anytime; they hoping somebody going make one big mistake and get caught with their pants down. Many of them try to make it happen via phone calls or texts to their LVB fan club. Regardless, KBGs just waiting for the moment to strike and drive the spike in nice and deep. Nowadays really have to watch out as KBGs are looking for any means to rip and tear because no more enough LVBs to go around.
Rent due soon so texts are flying. I have gone entirely civilian lately with the exception of of my best KBG takeout. She's a keeper. Also went to an AMP recently and did something I never do. After a nice conversation with the provider and whatnot she gave me what she called a nipple massage. Extremely sensual. She said she is a newbie, just divorced. Anyway, we ended up going bareback which is totally against my policy. I feel very unsettled. The girl said not to worry, but I do. Stay safe mongers. Do as I say, not as I did!
Its the usual guys that report but I KNOW most of you who read the KB threads DO go KBs but never post, just ask for info, or just comment post. I'm not complaining, just wishing for more sharing of info. Otherwise we'd have a dead thread. Anyhow, the people I really want to hear from are you regulars of KBGs which means you are a LVB. NO? Ok, quick test. Do you have her cell number? Do you go and NOT have play intentions with her? Disagree? YOU are a LVB. Post and tell me why not. Hey, KBGs, were you looking for me Friday? Scared I going write about you? Post your side of things. Bars are REALLY slow these days and your posting might help business.
Hello Kitty
01-30-12, 03:21
Plenty KBGs used to play the hard-to-get game; or still playing it now. In fact, some KBGs used to ignore guys because they were so busy and played the snob game; too big for their britches.
So many of these Legends are still around thinking that they're hot shat working as KBGs. It's not their fault. They act like that because still get guys spoiling them; although the fan club getting less and less, LOL. The Legends are now trying to make good with the ones they ignored in the past! Some of them KBGs even saying,"I like you from before." Gag me with a spoon! Plenty guys not going KBs as much now because it's nauseating and pitiful; good for laughs only.
Those KBGs are now Easy To Forget.Burning bridges could be a blessing.
I'm not complaining, just wishing for more sharing of info. Otherwise we'd have a dead thread. Bars are REALLY slow these days and your posting might help business.I think no more too many stuffs to report at this time. The basic cost of living has doubled within a short time; spending money has decreased by a large margin for many (I'm guessing a 50% cut). Coupled with the crappy service and attitude at KBs, it's a very large wake-up call falling on very deaf KBG ears.
The good news of KB discounts and desperate KBG plays are still around the corner; as spending dies due to endangered LVB and money pools, so will KBG pride and ego. Some dayshift regulars are already disgusted with the KB scene and frequenting local bars to break the monotony (IMO, the way to do it). KB dropouts and KBG monthly payments will put pressure on LVBs
To contribute to their DKBG. Proud LVBs no can refuse.
So that's my simple take on the path of KBs in the short term; it's even scarier in the long.
Its the usual guys that report but I KNOW most of you who read the KB threads DO go KBs but never post, just ask for info, or just comment post. I'm not complaining, just wishing for more sharing of info. Otherwise we'd have a dead thread. Anyhow, the people I really want to hear from are you regulars of KBGs which means you are a LVB. NO? Ok, quick test. Do you have her cell number? Do you go and NOT have play intentions with her? Disagree? YOU are a LVB. Post and tell me why not. Hey, KBGs, were you looking for me Friday? Scared I going write about you? Post your side of things. Bars are REALLY slow these days and your posting might help business.I guess they're afraid of being I'd if they are a regular. If they do feel shame, no need. It's not like what they're doing is anything unique / different than what everyone else on here does at KBs whether you're a LVB or not. Might as well have BGs write already. See their inputs. LOL
I still see ALL the KBs have KBGs doing their princess routines and giving terrible service even tho bars slow. Some of the vet KBGs are a little less princessy but things are changing. The
Pretty ones won't change for awhile but I see a change WILL come this year. Mamas are SCARED of losing girls so they let them do what they want, otherwise the girls will only change bar, LOL. The power is with LVBs now except they don't KNOW IT! However, there is less and less LVBs as days go by and I believe all the mamas are worried as they should be. You guys that kiss ass to mamas acting important are just LVBs of attention and not even KBGs, LOL. Watch who wins the prizes at Tommorrow this week. It will be LVBs who will then give the prizes away to their DKBG, LOL. Like see LVBs? They going have 10 raffle tickets, LOL. Now KBGs are arrogant and mamas too but just wait, soon they will worry about what we write in FEAR as the KB business pie gets smaller with less and less LVBs. Thats good news for sukebe guys, LOL.
You mean the:
I'm so hot, miss thang, people want me, desire to look like me, wish they were me, buy me choke ass drinks before I offer tease but no please, you're not cute enough to sit with me, high maka maka mentality?
LOL
This has always been one of my pet-peeves.
Sometimes one of the 'mamas' or another hostess will actually hang by the table and carry on a conversation with the girl; I've had to tell them that I'm paying for her time and to talk to her later on her own time, not mine.I would suspect we've all experienced the two KBG's yacking away while on our time. I generally don't complain cause I really didn't want to talk much to the KBG anyways. LOL Generally, I'll let the conversation go on and on just as long as the KBG next to me is stroking jr. Or I'm busy playing with her kitty. Interesting to note that the KBG can easily carry on a conversation with her "sister" while she's got a finger in her. Guess it tells you how good I'm at stimulation. Or not.
Ss
I would suspect we've all experienced the two KBG's yacking away while on our time. I generally don't complain cause I really didn't want to talk much to the KBG anyways. LOL Generally, I'll let the conversation go on and on just as long as the KBG next to me is stroking jr. Or I'm busy playing with her kitty. Interesting to note that the KBG can easily carry on a conversation with her "sister" while she's got a finger in her. Guess it tells you how good I'm at stimulation. Or not.
SsI forgot that handsome devils such as yourself also go to KBs, so I did not specify that in my case any play comes to an immediate halt when the girl's 'sister' or a mama comes by :). I think they plot when she gets her drink; "Give me a few moments then come interrupt because I hate sitting with this guy."
Any bars got Lunch buffet etc? For me, finding good seat in front of good tv is most important and not being bothered except serving drinks. BTW, I predict Giants going win. Hmmm, wonder if Ashley from Twilight working that day, LOL.
I forgot that handsome devils such as yourself also go to KBs, so I did not specify that in my case any play comes to an immediate halt when the girl's 'sister' or a mama comes by :).LOL Mr. Mobius. Yeah right "handsome devil". That's why all the KBG's buy ME $20 drinkees. Not! My play mood tactics do include having no taste. That's not to say I do not appreciate a fine young lovely, however, reality says go for any port in the storm if that is my mood. That's why I span the globe from Blue Sea to Kalihi and all harbors in between. Just depends on my mood. Hit the Kapiolani area for some viewing or go fight off the walking zombie at Kools and hit on the Viet girl Nancy. It all depends upon what jr has in mind. Just got to stay out of my kryptonite bar (Evergreen). That place turns me into a lvrblob. One advantage to being old is that most (not all) of the KBG's are younger than me which sort of broadens the playing field. Course I would suspect the one that was holding onto jr in Blue Sea could qualify for social security about 2 or 3 years ago. But shoots her hands were soft so what the heck.
Ss
LOL Mr. Mobius. Yeah right "handsome devil". That's why all the KBG's buy ME $20 drinkees. Not! My play mood tactics do include having no taste. That's not to say I do not appreciate a fine young lovely, however, reality says go for any port in the storm if that is my mood. That's why I span the globe from Blue Sea to Kalihi and all harbors in between. Just depends on my mood. Hit the Kapiolani area for some viewing or go fight off the walking zombie at Kools and hit on the Viet girl Nancy. It all depends upon what jr has in mind. Just got to stay out of my kryptonite bar (Evergreen). That place turns me into a lvrblob. One advantage to being old is that most (not all) of the KBG's are younger than me which sort of broadens the playing field. Course I would suspect the one that was holding onto jr in Blue Sea could qualify for social security about 2 or 3 years ago. But shoots her hands were soft so what the heck.
SsI've experienced both scenerios as SS and Mobi regarding stopping or continueing play while interupted. You will find the prettier girls in general stop and the vet playgirls often don't. SS is smart enough to know if you want play, you generally don't try for the pretty princess babes that either won't or going to cost too much. Alot of you ask if this and that girl plays but generally, its the not so hot or older ones that do. Hey, I rather go home with happy jr than blue balls getting robbed by Miss Princessy ANYDAY, LOL. Yes, even if its gramma with the soft hands, LOL. Exceptions? Sometimes but you better off second shift if you want to chance um, hehe. This is what I mean when I sat choose wisely. If you want to be LVB that night then ok but just remember that guys like me, SS, Uki, Mobi, etc. Pounce on the drunk girls second shift after you LVBs leave, LOL. So tell me, whose the wise consumer then? LOL. Of course, the wisest of them all is Kapa who saves a bunch because he save money and get free rubs, LOL.
My play mood tactics do include having no taste. That's not to say I do not appreciate a fine young lovely, however, reality says go for any port in the storm if that is my mood. That's why I span the globe from Blue Sea to Kalihi and all harbors in between. Just depends on my mood.SsI'm the same also. I'm not going to pick a number and wait in line for that hottie BG, fuck it! It's like how people sit / stand in the parking lot waiting to get the new IPhone / IPad 2. I'm not going to focus all my time on her. If a random BG sits by me, I'll try her out. She may not be the hottie BG in the bar but, she maybe fun and she don't mind me getting aggressive on her. She is willing to please because I let her sit by me. Why not? It's not like I'm planning to hook up with her, be emotionally in love with her and marry her anyways. Oh but, I know alot of you guys are thinking:
"Yah but, I don't want to be wasting money on a BG I'm not attracted to"
Heh, it's not like the hottie BG herself will be attracted to you to right? LOL. Cmon now. You're just going to be sitting there with her talking and being excited by her company and beauty, expecting some play cause you bought her so many drinks. But, nothing happens, even though you splurged alot of $ already. That's why, choose wisely. Don't just shoot for the moon like how ILTW said before about customers shooting for the moon. Heh, you'll be easily labeled by the BGs.
There are times I've rejected the hot BGs from sitting at the table as I'm not in the mood. I don't care if she's hot. I can overlook that. The hot BGs can be boring to. They feel self conscious and they don't want to sing outloud, don't want to look bad and embarass themselves. Don't expect things to happen based heavily on the amount of money you spending, just have your own fun. It's what attracts the other BGs to want to come by.
If you want to be LVB that night then ok but just remember that guys like me, SS, Uki, Mobi, etc. Pounce on the drunk girls second shift after you LVBs leave, LOL.He-he! Just for the record, I have an aversion to drunk KBGs and typically will reject a girl for that reason.
He-he! Just for the record, I have an aversion to drunk KBGs and typically will reject a girl for that reason.LOL, I like them just right feeling playful loose with defenses down. After all, don't want them pissing in your car huh SS? LOL.
LOL, I like them just right feeling playful loose with defenses down. After all, don't want them pissing in your car huh SS? LOL.I don't want them puking in my car. The worst thing about drunk KBGs is carrying her to her apt.
Hello Kitty
02-02-12, 20:16
I don't want them puking in my car. The worst thing about drunk KBGs is carrying her to her apt.I agree with you on that one. Alot of guys think you get it made once you get the girl drunk and in your car but never thinking how you get them to the bed. For a guy like me I had a good workout. Some girls I have piggiback up the stairs and then you get the watchman that looks at you without helping you. Remember I'm a fat out of shape little lvb.
Any bars got Lunch buffet etc? For me, finding good seat in front of good tv is most important and not being bothered except serving drinks. BTW, I predict Giants going win. Hmmm, wonder if Ashley from Twilight working that day, LOL.I doubt any of the girls will be working during that time, especially on a Sun. If you must go to a kb for Super Bowl, I would just hop around and feel out the Kapiolani bars. I doubt any of them will be going off the hook but a few may have a decent crowd. Really hard to say though where. I think 80-90% are picking Giants.
LOL, I like them just right feeling playful loose with defenses down.Gee it's been so long since I've had a girl like that. She was an exception and such a happy little kitten in my lap when intoxicated. Thanks for jogging my memory.
Maybe its just me but except for the ignorant princessy KBGs, girls are being nicer and looser, hehehe. Bars like Camelot and Business not worth going now imo as there's no girls worth sitting with due to bad attitudes and either too expensive or no play. Disagree? Tell me who and post. If the LVBs didn't spoil the girls so much, we'd have it pretty good. Supply and demand. Notice how FEW actual kbr? Yet I know alot of you go and don't want to tell your secrets, LOL. Its ok, just not spoil the girls while the bars being slow tips the game silghtly in our favor. Thoughts?
Maybe its just me but except for the ignorant princessy KBGs, girls are being nicer and looser, hehehe. If the LVBs didn't spoil the girls so much, we'd have it pretty good. Supply and demand. Thoughts?Oldee, etal. It's all common sense as you have informed us but as long as the DKBGs are being spoiled then it (advantage over the KBGs) won't happen. It's not only you who feels that way and the sooner everbody gets on the same page and understands supply and demand, then the better our positions. LVBs are doing it backwards: spoil the KBGs then get what they want. Control the beast by cutting off its head (money).
Some must resort to money, gifts, and compliments to conform to DKBG standards. KBGs love to categorize and label customers because enough guys are allowing themselves to be branded. Try using mojo, instead of money, to impress your DKBG and you'll find out how much you mean to them very quickly. You'll get dropped before you can even spell "dump."
Just wondering as your situation is the same as SS's was. As the voice of experience and reason regarding KBs, it would be nice to see your posts earlier when you post.
Listen up LVBs. This is the info you've
Been waiting for. Ok, I know its been years since hs but do what you did to score with the hottest girl in school or prom queen hottie. What? You never did score the civilian hottie? Ok, no problem. Next tactic then. SPEND 100 to 200k per year on her minimum and you probably will score eventually after a few years. What! Can't afford that much? Ok, no problem. ENROLL in Aloha KB Cancer School for 1k per semester. GUARANTEED results. Valentines day coming soon so I suggest you enroll now.
The worst thing about your DKBG is she might be a dead fish in bed. I've had a few that looked so hot, but in bed I was pulling my hair out. I wished instead of chasing them, I just spent the time banging AMP chicks. Less time, money and stress, better fuck.
Maybe its just me but except for the ignorant princessy KBGs, girls are being nicer and looser, hehehe. Bars like Camelot and Business not worth going now imo as there's no girls worth sitting with due to bad attitudes and either too expensive or no play. Disagree? Tell me who and post. If the LVBs didn't spoil the girls so much, we'd have it pretty good. Supply and demand. Notice how FEW actual kbr? Yet I know alot of you go and don't want to tell your secrets, LOL. Its ok, just not spoil the girls while the bars being slow tips the game silghtly in our favor. Thoughts?They cannot wait. If it means spoiling the BGs to possibly get her time, they'll do it. If they don't spoil the BG, then what else are they to do to get her attention and be noticed? They're trying to compete with other LVBs on spoiling the BG to keep her company as long as possible, so that she doesn't move on to the next customer. Or else, they need to wait until she's free and available again. It's like how a guy tips a hot stripper at a strip bar, the guy keeps tipping and tipping so that she stays and she doesn't leave to dance for another customer sitting by the stage. LVB mentality would be selfish."She's mine! I don't want to share her!" They're not concerned about We. It's about Me. It's like a baby having to pass on a toy to another baby to play but, the baby doesn't want to. You take the toy away, the baby cries. You hand the baby a different toy, he throws it away and continues crying. You send a LVB another BG, he no like."I don't like this BG, I want her!" Hehe.
With your 1K ready to splurge? Valentine's Day coming soon and is a good day for KBGs and LVB spectator watching! Watch as LVBs buy their DKBGs roses, balloons, candy, gifts etc. LOL. KBGs will COMPETE to see who got the best splurging LVB. LOL. I remember 1 year I brought 300 dollars monopoly money and asked to see a hottie KBG's boobs for 300 no touch and she wen show, LOL. I got hit after showing the monopoly money but was worth it, LOL. It did cost me a few neko but the look on her face was priceless, LOL.
With your 1K ready to splurge? Valentine's Day coming soon and is a good day for KBGs and LVB spectator watching! Watch as LVBs buy their DKBGs roses, balloons, candy, gifts etc. LOL. KBGs will COMPETE to see who got the best splurging LVB. LOL. I remember 1 year I brought 300 dollars monopoly money and asked to see a hottie KBG's boobs for 300 no touch and she wen show, LOL. I got hit after showing the monopoly money but was worth it, LOL. It did cost me a few neko but the look on her face was priceless, LOL.Yup. Going dress up nice and bring 1K and find a below average looking BG to sit with and splurge all of it on her. I just want to see the other BGs reaction. If another hotter BG approaches and trys join in, I'll tell her to leave as I have a BG already.
"Uhmm, excuse me? But, I have found my Valentine" Spoil that below average looking, hardly get customers buying her drink BG. When the lady with the flowers walks in the bar, I'm going buy the whole stack of flowers from her and give it to my BG that night.
Yup. Going dress up nice and bring 1K and find a below average looking BG to sit with and splurge all of it on her. I just want to see the other BGs reaction. If another hotter BG approaches and trys join in, I'll tell her to leave as I have a BG already.
"Uhmm, excuse me? But, I have found my Valentine" Spoil that below average looking, hardly get customers buying her drink BG. When the lady with the flowers walks in the bar, I'm going buy the whole stack of flowers from her and give it to my BG that night.Not to be a morbid party pooper, but has anyone heard of the following story? I don't know for certain if it's true. If I remember correctly it happened in the late 90's.
Club Casino (back when it was New Casino) closed for renovations. This was the renovation where they got rid of the water wheel. It was around Valentine's and a customer (probably an Oldee LVB) hid in the bar til after closing, and was alone after they locked-up on the last night of business before the construction was to begin.
When the renovation crew arrived, they found the guy's body; he apparently hung himself. There was a note with a "Happy Valentine's Day" wish to his BG. As the 'story' went; "Promises were exchanged, but she was only playing him and broke his heart".
Whether the story is true or not, I always remember it both during Valentine's and whenever I see a guy who appears taken-in by a BG.
It was around Valentine's and a customer (probably an Oldee LVB) hid in the bar til after closing, and was alone after they locked-up on the last night of business before the construction was to begin. When the renovation crew arrived, they found the guy's body; he apparently hung himself. There was a note with a "Happy Valentine's Day" wish to his BG. As the 'story' went;"Promises were exchanged, but she was only playing him and broke his heart".
Whether the story is true or not, I always remember it both during Valentine's and whenever I see a guy who appears taken-in by a BG.Heard a similar story regarding the water wheel renovation and a customer who was found in Casino after hours; did not hear about the death by suicide and Valentine tie-in. The interesting part is that I heard this hiding guy spent $1K that evening and was drunk and deceived by his ROB DKBG; that prompted him to rest in a room but ended as an overnighter.
Whatever the circumstances it's pretty spooky due to events that do happen in KBs and with KBGs. The amount of Karma to be released must be crazy plenty; don't think ROB DKBGs want to be around when it comes around their way. I'm not a believer in spiritual goings on but will not deny that it may exist either. Whenever a KB is entered it is understood that you have become prey in the KBG food chain.
Although I forget the details, its one of many past tragic outcomes when guys get emotionally involved with a KBG. THAT is why I post, so that kind of stuff can possiblx be avoided. Of course thats the maximum extreme worst case scenerio but broken hearts and lots of money and time wasted by LVB customers is sad and unfortunate too. I tease LVBs and seem like I'm against them but actually alot of us trying to save you LVBs grief. We are on YOUR SIDE. Even the guys who say just learn by getting burned is on your side. Sometimes its takes an atomic bomb lit un a LVBs ass to wake up, LOL. Thanks for reminding me how dangerous it can be to become a LVB Mobi. Btw, dont try the monopoly money prank unless you want to risk getting killed. I did it 20 years ago to a KBG i lknew wasnt psycho hot tempered. She has since retired from KBs.
Heard a similar story regarding the water wheel renovation and a customer who was found in Casino after hours; did not hear about the death by suicide and Valentine tie-in. The interesting part is that I heard this hiding guy spent $1K that evening and was drunk and deceived by his ROB DKBG; that prompted him to rest in a room but ended as an overnighter.
Whatever the circumstances it's pretty spooky due to events that do happen in KBs and with KBGs. The amount of Karma to be released must be crazy plenty; don't think ROB DKBGs want to be around when it comes around their way. I'm not a believer in spiritual goings on but will not deny that it may exist either. Whenever a KB is entered it is understood that you have become prey in the KBG food chain.There was a PI guy who shot himself in the head on VD in Kalihi yrs ago. He was getting ripped off by a KBG. Hope that kinds of girls get Karma they deserve, I believe in that. She was lucky he didn't shot her first. What will this yrs VD bring? I'm staying away on VD night this yr!
There was a PI guy who shot himself in the head on VD in Kalihi yrs ago. He was getting ripped off by a KBG. Hope that kinds of girls get Karma they deserve, I believe in that.The case involved a PI KB LVB who called out his DKBG to meet him and tried to ram the batch against a wall with his Toyota truck or 4Runner in the Salt Lake area. He missed her but hit the wall hard enough to kill himself; don't know of any weapon involved. Just guessing that the KBG worked at Tuberose in the Waiakamilo Shopping Center; used to be Suzu, Suzie, and various other bar names; some guys even came to the KB to see the truck dodger. Get plenty more stories similar to this one but some things should be respected and put to rest already. But not KBG BS "bijinesu."
Member #3973
02-09-12, 03:03
I remember an incident some years ago, where a guy had spent thousands on a KBG in a short time only to find out she was married. He got her to meet him outside the bar, stabbed her. Killed her, then drove his truck into a wall at high speed, committing suicide. A very tragic story.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/10/ln/hawaii710100389.html
Getting seriously involved with bar girls can be risky. Don't do it!
Btw, dont try the monopoly money prank unless you want to risk getting killed. I did it 20 years ago to a KBG i lknew wasnt psycho hot tempered. She has since retired from KBs.Heh, it was around that time one of the milfs at Blue Sea snapped at her customer for sitting with another hostess by keying an f-word message onto the trunk of his Jaguar.
Drunken BG barfights were more common then; pull hair, grab knife, everything.
What will this yrs VD bring? I'm staying away on VD night this yr!Maybe all these recollections are a sign to avoid the KBGs on VDay; window shop but no engage. I believe it'll be very funny and entertaining to see all the LVB gifts, nekos, and drama that will most likely happen that evening in the booths and counter. Maybe going have blow-up with the dayshift MKBGs and MLVBs; something anyway, so can post the aigus. Almost guarans among EG, CLot, Tmrw, and Slush going get at least one eruption. Hold on to your wallets! Don't make it an evening of weakness; be customer-based.
Thanks for reminding me how dangerous it can be to become a LVB Mobi. Btw, dont try the monopoly money prank unless you want to risk getting killed. I did it 20 years ago to a KBG i lknew wasnt psycho hot tempered.Many of these KBGs are psychotic. Watch out and avoid the strange and overly private ones because many of them come to Hawaii to start anew after committing crimes elsewhere; they like temporarily assume another identity or life.
Thanks to HM for the article clarifying the tragic LVB / DKBG event. Eh Oldee, what you getting the batches for Valentine? I was going get them chocolate covered garlic but too expensive.
I guess while we are on the subject of tragic stories, anyone remember Queen Bee? A older gentlemen was in so deep with a kbg, one night they were in the room and I guess he found out something. Shot her and I think himself or did he commit suicide elsewhere? All I remember was after that girls disappeared and sooner or later Queen Bee was no more. Tragic story for the people involved and the bar, place had potential.
I remember an incident some years ago, where a guy had spent thousands on a KBG in a short time only to find out she was married. He got her to meet him outside the bar, stabbed her. Killed her, then drove his truck into a wall at high speed, committing suicide. A very tragic story.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/10/ln/hawaii710100389.html
Getting seriously involved with bar girls can be risky. Don't do it!Yeah that guy had mental issues, HP went to his work place and found uncashed pay checks, drugs. His wife dumped his ass the year before. Saw him one time he was upset so he went outside and sat in the rain and begged for forgiveness. He was a psych. He would drive around her house for hrs, and call everyday all hrs of the day. You has to have issues if you kill yourself.
CheapCharlie
02-09-12, 09:37
I guess while we are on the subject of tragic stories, anyone remember Queen Bee? A older gentlemen was in so deep with a kbg, one night they were in the room and I guess he found out something. Shot her and I think himself or did he commit suicide elsewhere? All I remember was after that girls disappeared and sooner or later Queen Bee was no more. Tragic story for the people involved and the bar, place had potential.Was it Queen Bee or Yokohama? Because unless I'm mistaken, Queen Bee was a sushi bar.
Was it Queen Bee or Yokohama? Because unless I'm mistaken, Queen Bee was a sushi bar.I don't ever recall Queen Bee being a sushi. About 7 years ago they opened up as a hostess bar, place was nice and all the girls were named after some sort of flower. In fact now that I think of it, it might have been a Cbar. Not sure though as it felt like so long ago. Anyway they were around for maybe half a year then that incident happened. After that girls started leaving then soon enough they became a sports bar. A few of my friends that were into darts would go there to throw. Place detoriated fast and soon enough business closed.
Thanks to HM for the article clarifying the tragic LVB / DKBG event. Eh Oldee, what you getting the batches for Valentine? I was going get them chocolate covered garlic but too expensive.Hey, LVBs, get your Aloha KB Fashions T-Shirts NOW so you can impress your DKBG. I running special 2 for $30 until Feb 13, otherwise its $25 per shirt after that. Custom shirts with anything you want also available for $10 extra. Beat your fellow LVBs in the DKBG competition!
I guess while we are on the subject of tragic stories, anyone remember Queen Bee? A older gentlemen was in so deep with a kbg, one night they were in the room and I guess he found out something. Shot her and I think himself or did he commit suicide elsewhere? All I remember was after that girls disappeared and sooner or later Queen Bee was no more. Tragic story for the people involved and the bar, place had potential.Wasn't the name of the bar changed to Yellow Rose after Yokohama? Then closed and reopened as Queen Bee?
[QUOTE=Rico80; 1379213]Wasn't the name of the bar changed to Yellow Rose after Yokohama? Then closed and reopened as Queen Bee? [/QUOTE/]
Maybe, never really followed that area until Queen Bee had their 30 secs of fame.
I will be singing this song on valentine's day to KBGs and will practice so you LVBs better practice too or I going steal your DKBG away. (I sing good) I know Uki going sing loud and proud too along with him going to spurge his 1K so the competition going be tough on you LVBs. With my LVB shirt and heart shape helium balloon that says YOU'RE MY DREAM PRINCESS, your DKBG will be sitting with me instead of you. I going get her loose and then its party time! LOL.
Wise men say.
Only fools rush in.
But I can't help.
Falling in LUST with you.
Shall I SPEND.
Would it be a sin.
If I can't help.
Falling in LUST with you.
Like a river flows.
Surely to the sea.
PRINCESS so it goes.
Somethings are meant to be.
Take my CASH.
Take my whole life too.
For I can't help falling in LUST with you.
For I can't help falling in LUST with you.
Hey, LVBs, get your Aloha KB Fashions T-Shirts NOW so you can impress your DKBG. I running special 2 for $30 until Feb 13, otherwise its $25 per shirt after that. Custom shirts with anything you want also available for $10 extra. Beat your fellow LVBs in the DKBG competition!What to give? I probably shouldn't be putting ideas in Oldee's head (even though he's probably the only one qualified to do dangerous stunts), but remember that scene in Van Wilder where they fed the jocks those muffins evidently filled with the dog's cum? I was in a j-bar and couldn't hear the sound and just saw the dog going around with giant nuts hanging low; next thing they're so tiny, and then they showed the filling oozing down their chins.
Wasn't the name of the bar changed to Yellow Rose after Yokohama? Then closed and reopened as Queen Bee?I think you're right, sounds familiar but it was so long ago. What I'm remembering is that when it was Yokohama, Queen Bee was where Sabai is now but I'm probably mistaken and have little experience there.
The last I saw it reopened as Queen Bee as Rico80 said, but then closed.
Hello Kitty
02-10-12, 06:47
I guess while we are on the subject of tragic stories, anyone remember Queen Bee? A older gentlemen was in so deep with a kbg, one night they were in the room and I guess he found out something. Shot her and I think himself or did he commit suicide elsewhere? All I remember was after that girls disappeared and sooner or later Queen Bee was no more. Tragic story for the people involved and the bar, place had potential.I met that lady one time who got shot. Her place was that apartment between Pacific Grand and Makaloa St. 2 floor facing Ala Moana Mall. She had a son in University in the mainland. On the wall acoss from the bathroom was newspaper clipping in a frame about her son in sport.
Hello Kitty
02-10-12, 07:03
Hey, LVBs, get your Aloha KB Fashions T-Shirts NOW so you can impress your DKBG. I running special 2 for $30 until Feb 13, otherwise its $25 per shirt after that. Custom shirts with anything you want also available for $10 extra. Beat your fellow LVBs in the DKBG competition!Can I have it in pink and I want it to say.
Use Me,
Burn Me,
And Abuse Me.
But I still love U forever.
LVBs Rule!
I think you're right, sounds familiar but it was so long ago. What I'm remembering is that when it was Yokohama, Queen Bee was where Sabai is now but I'm probably mistaken and have little experience there.
The last I saw it reopened as Queen Bee as Rico80 said, but then closed.Wasn't Sabai called Bangkok Thai or something like that? The Bee you are thinking of is probably the sign a couple doors down that has a bee on a sign for a T Shirt company, Bee Arts. Wasn't the chronological order of names for Yokohama this? Yellow Rose Yokohama Queen Bee Red something.
Prime example is "Lexi" at Tomorrow. Think this (or any) KBG can be, will be, or is reformed? Dream on, Buckwheat! There are more criminals and psychos like Lexi assuming roles as DKBGs and ROBs; be careful, my LVB friends and always en garde!
Wasn't Sabai called Bangkok Thai or something like that? The Bee you are thinking of is probably the sign a couple doors down that has a bee on a sign for a T Shirt company, Bee Arts. Wasn't the chronological order of names for Yokohama this? Yellow Rose Yokohama Queen Bee Red something.I think Sabai was Bangkok Thai years ago, but I am quite sure that at one point it was Queen Bee, not to be confused with Bee Arts the t-shirt company.
It might have been on the order of 20 years ago when Yokohama was Yellow Rose, but again I did not frequent there and am not sure anymore. You are probably right about the sequence. I honestly don't remember one way or the other.
Regarding bar tactics and discussions, I find the new ms at Tomorrow (sorry her name escapes me - Yujin?) to be friendly, young and hot (nice thighs and boobs) and like that she shows concern for filling customers' needs. I like her. I asked if a girl was working and she gave a good answer, regardless if it was contrived. I liked the answer in terms of her attitude; most mamas don't give a crap and will inattentively grunt "she no come work yet".
Lots of pretty girls there, compared to before.
Member #3973
02-11-12, 00:00
Prime example is "Lexi" at Tomorrow. Think this (or any) KBG can be, will be, or is reformed? Dream on, Buckwheat! There are more criminals and psychos like Lexi assuming roles as DKBGs and ROBs; be careful, my LVB friends and always en garde!Here is a link to the story in the Staradvertiser:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y&id=139079399
Basically Lexi set her customer, who happened to be a police officer, up to get robbed by two guys. They got a bag with his badge and gun. Lexi tried to sell the gun to a "friend", who happened to be an undercover officer. Just a brief recap if you do not have premium access to the article. This happened in 2009 when Lexi was 20, too young to work at a KB.
The interesting thing about this is that obviously two of Lexi's bar friends or customers are HPD. Who would have thought. Wonder if they were working or just having a good time.
Lexi's bar friends or customers are HPD. Who would have thought. Wonder if they were working or just having a good time.All forms of LE are 24/7; even retirees."Lexi" must have had the diarrhea mouth, background check, and was under surveillance prior to the event; set-up, bait, and arrest. The betch was probably all giggly because she thought she got away with the crime. The Las Vegas (in her case, Vagina) Turnaround can be a betch, too. Almost guarans more charges pending unless she sings about other crimes and accomplices, if any. No trust anyone in the KBs; they going chirp to get reduced time and heartburn; more flex to commit crimes.
All you LVBs getting exci-cited about HWeenie? We're excited as well, knowing that "Love Is In The Air" for "My Girl" and that I "Ain't Too Proud To Beg." LVBs "Truly" looking forward to meeting your DKBG and hoping no "Change Of Heart" will happen, we skebe otokos wish that it won't be a "Spooky","Stormy", and "Crazy" eve. Watch out for them criminals, cons, and Black Widows.
Hello Kitty
02-11-12, 14:49
Here is a link to the story in the Staradvertiser:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y&id=139079399
Basically Lexi set her customer, who happened to be a police officer, up to get robbed by two guys. They got a bag with his badge and gun. Lexi tried to sell the gun to a "friend", who happened to be an undercover officer. Just a brief recap if you do not have premium access to the article. This happened in 2009 when Lexi was 20, too young to work at a KB.
The interesting thing about this is that obviously two of Lexi's bar friends or customers are HPD. Who would have thought. Wonder if they were working or just having a good time.Never sen her before.
Mr. HM brought up an interesting point in another thread that is part of KBG tactics. After a fellow monger mentioned that he didn't get f / s at an AMP (or was it a "massage therapist") due to the fact that the provider was on her period and "even showed him the string", Mr. HM pointed out that a similar experience left him to surmise that the girl had placed the "string" to deflect having to give f / s. I too have had experiences that led me to believe it was a shibai string. Now, in an AMP, that's just not right and probably dangerous for the girl to try and "pull-off", however, in a KB or VB it just comes down to being another tactic that I felt should be mentioned. The most recent KBG to "pull" this on me set it up pretty good and I was drunk enough to buy in at the time. Later, upon review, I figured it out. Man, these KBG's are impressive professionals and I'll just bet that they sit around and share this stuff as they come up with these ideas.
Moving forward, as another fellow monger mentioned, I'll merely suggest we use another hole. Or perhaps exclaim "ALRIGHT! Dental Floss!"
SS
. Man, these KBG's are impressive professionals and I'll just bet that they sit around and share this stuff as they come up with these ideas."
SSMany KBGs have told me they literally do just that and practice and coach each other 'daily' in the art of taking your money. This is why I say READ them and counter IF you want to chance um. I don't know of many guys that can beat KBGs at their own game. For me, I usually pick he bad KBG students or not yet pro level robs, LOL.
The is the day LVBs cannot hide. I know you read here and will try make sly give present under the table, give them outside the bar at your car etc but you can't hide from us sukebe spectators, LOL We going vote on BEST Valentine LVB this year. KBGs will compete with each other. LVBs will compete with each other. Spectators will have fun watching the festivitys, LOL. Some of you sly LVBs going late Monday night to beat your competition and avoid us spectators but we going watch then too. The only LVB I not going watch is HK because he report on himself and is a good Aloha KB Fashion T Shirts customa.
Many KBGs have told me they literally do just that and practice and coach each other 'daily' in the art of taking your money. This is why I say READ them and counter IF you want to chance um. I don't know of many guys that can beat KBGs at their own game. For me, I usually pick he bad KBG students or not yet pro level robs, LOL.Yup. 'Saw' the Tomorrow ms coaching the girl sitting next to me. They need to realize that using a foreign language isn't enough. Playfully (because in a place like this I don't take things personally) used their moves against them, cut the girl's line and left.
EG has a new Chinese girl who is young and very pretty, but she is under Lisa's ROB tutilage. I wanted to meet her but Lisa would not have me interrupt their training session. Lisa and Miho continue to put-on weight but in a shapely way; I recommend tapping before they go over their peak and become untappable.
Heard of an apparent suicide about one week ago of a KBG in the Kapiolani area (Nami). She supposedly owed money and the poor thing maybe was "assisted" out of her apartment lanai; or someone thought she could fly. That's not the way to do business or make example.
Visited KB Jasmine to find naughty (DATY, fiv, FS, etc.) KBGs of the past there. They used to think they were "it"; now their T / A drifting south due to age; more concealer and pancake mix on the face. Ellie's daytime bartending crew on Sunday was hospitable and nice (Lisa &?) ; Casino gaining momentum with pupus and familiar faces from ago who were popular; D'amour dead; EG boneyard. I guess LVBs are saving their ammo for the "big day" with hopes of swooping their DKBG off their feet; dream on, and just make sure you get home safe and sound; never mind her because she may be a fugitive, con, and psycho. Besides, the amount of KBGs owing money is staggering so watch out. Enough lecture.
Many guys and especially KBGs themselves say its to get guys to spend money and its the commonly held belief that this is true but more importantly, its commonly ACCEPTED as true. For me, I hold the minority view that their job is to provide CUSTOMER SERVICE. Yes, sometimes it means the KBG just sits there doing NOTHING if thats what the customer wants. However, for me, neko is a tip for SERVICE GIVEN as in past tense. Yes, I don't always follow this this but I never forget that I'm THE CUSTOMER. Isn't it funny how the same guys that go nuts at a restaurant giving shitty service will be puddy when with their DKBG? LOL. THIS is the bar culture today. We all heard 'its my job' as the KBG table hops. For me, KBGs confuse job OBJECTIVE and Job DESCRIPTION. Can they write on their resume that it was their job description to take as much money from guys by lying, decieving and cheating guys? LOL. All mamas will say yes. LOL. I just wish you LVBs knew how much power you had that you NEVER USE. Think about it LVBs.
Many guys and especially KBGs themselves say its to get guys to spend money and its the commonly held belief that this is true but more importantly, its commonly ACCEPTED as true. For me, I hold the minority view that their job is to provide CUSTOMER SERVICE. Yes, sometimes it means the KBG just sits there doing NOTHING if thats what the customer wants. However, for me, neko is a tip for SERVICE GIVEN as in past tense. Yes, I don't always follow this this but I never forget that I'm THE CUSTOMER. Isn't it funny how the same guys that go nuts at a restaurant giving shitty service will be puddy when with their DKBG? LOL. THIS is the bar culture today. We all heard 'its my job' as the KBG table hops. For me, KBGs confuse job OBJECTIVE and Job DESCRIPTION. Can they write on their resume that it was their job description to take as much money from guys by lying, decieving and cheating guys? LOL. All mamas will say yes. LOL. I just wish you LVBs knew how much power you had that you NEVER USE. Think about it LVBs.This is the way I look at it. BGs work on a commission basis so they are basically salespeople. Their job is offering a product that they try and entice you to buy. They are no different than other people selling cars, real estate, jewelry. Except those people sell a tangible product. BGs are selling a dream or fantasy, like a con artist. As a whole, I don't trust salespeople as their job is to get money from you and will try anything to make that sale.
Is to self-destruct and blow-up, taking as many victims as possible with them (sort of like a terrorist) and implementing new methods to destroy life, property, and the pursuit of happiness. KBGs are parasites and serve no legitimate purpose in society.
This is the way I look at it. BGs work on a commission basis so they are basically salespeople. Their job is offering a product that they try and entice you to buy. They are no different than other people selling cars, real estate, jewelry. Except those people sell a tangible product. BGs are selling a dream or fantasy, like a con artist. As a whole, I don't trust salespeople as their job is to get money from you and will try anything to make that sale.These BGs are similar to a salesperson but, what makes BGs more dangerous is playing with the mans mind as well as his emotions. With a car salesman, a person can be fooled into buying an automobile but, it's not something that's going to be continuous. He bought a crappy car that didn't last, he feels bummed but, he moves on. With a BG at a hostess bar, it can be ongoing, he's having high hopes, he's spending more money and he's getting emotionally into her until it all backfires. The person will feel alot more devastated in this case vs buying a vehicle that wasn't a good deal. It was just money that he lost on the vehicle. He can recover from it. It's unlikely that he'll go into an emotional depression. With the bg, it's money, time and mental / emotional heartache that he goes through.
These BGs are similar to a salesperson but, what makes BGs more dangerous is playing with the mans mind as well as his emotions. With a car salesman, a person can be fooled into buying an automobile but, it's not something that's going to be continuous. He bought a crappy car that didn't last, he feels bummed but, he moves on. With a BG at a hostess bar, it can be ongoing, he's having high hopes, he's spending more money and he's getting emotionally into her until it all backfires. The person will feel alot more devastated in this case vs buying a vehicle that wasn't a good deal. It was just money that he lost on the vehicle. He can recover from it. It's unlikely that he'll go into an emotional depression. With the bg, it's money, time and mental / emotional heartache that he goes through.That is the precise reason why the weak and feeble minded should not play this game. I do hope neophytes come across this forum and learn from our posts. It is just so frustrating seeing all the crap people post, the infighting among brother mongers and those not learning from reading this forum. That is why I rarely post these days.
If you guys had to pick tonight only, what bar would have the most LVB antics?
If you guys had to pick tonight only, what bar would have the most LVB antics?Hard to say but my guess is Camelot. Business and Tommorrow might have some action too. Of course the after 2 action going to be at Evergreen, hehe.
If you guys had to pick tonight only, what bar would have the most LVB antics?Expect some girls to come in a little tonight as they probably will be out with their LVBs. Some may not come in at all.
Oldee hit it pretty darn good in KBreports thread. I don't want some guy grumbling to the park officials that he lost cause he didn't know how to play the game. I think this forum is, in part, about becoming more skillful at playing the game. Fact is, I like going to KB's, VB's and AMPs. It is my diversion (or some may say perversion) and I am glad we have such activities readily available here. It's why LVBs are my friends, in that, they help to keep the business going. I freely admit I ain't no Don Juan, so where else can I walk into a bar and be holding the titty of some sweet thang within 10 minutes (give or take) assuming I've hit the right place at the right time. Sure, like many of us, I've got the guaranteed spots / girls if I am so inclined, but, it sure is fun moving to territory I've intentionally left fallow for awhile. That's why my recon is all over the place (Blue Sea out to Pearl City).
I feel for the guy who got ripped in the V-bar. Really I know how it feels. I've been there. How about buying a KBG drinks all night long then waiting for her outside the bar (after she said wait for me) while in the meantime she's slipped out the back. Yup! I've been there. I used to save a lot of gas money cause I used to kick myself in the ass all the way home. You name it. I've been there. So when I say I feel for the guy, I do. BUT don't try to take away my playground. I've learned and paid my dues and now it is my turn to play. Calling for the LC, LE, FBI, CIA or whomever to "investigate" or complaining to whatever agency is just plain wrong thinking. If you don't like the game, if you don't like the ballpark, just stay out of it. You mean to say KB's and VB's are rip-off places? You mean to say KBG's and VBG's are all rip-off artists. Wow! Who would have thought? Gee thank you for the enlightenment. Now go home, be quiet, and let me play.
In the past, I've been accused of being LE, and recently been accused of working at / for a VBar. Some guys just are too hard-headed to get it. What do you gain by complaining to the LC that some girl ripped you off. What do you gain if you complain to authorities about gambling machines in bars. Come on, think of the consequences. Complain that you payed to have sex with some bg and then she refused? Ah not smart guy, especially with new john laws, not smart at all. Complain about gambling machines? What do you want, the FBI to hit every joint in this town? Complain that she's not drinking alcohol? What do you want that she gets so drunk you can have your way with her cause she is beyond being able to say no? (That, by the way is called rape) Geez how many ways to say Leave it alone, read the tons of advice offered here and go into the ballpark with eyes wide open or alternatively don't play the game and stay home. It's that easy. These girls are pro's and if you want to play this game you better become one too or you'll get beat up, not beat off.
Intel, advice, personal experiences on how to get the most BJ for the buck is what this forum is about. Plain and simple. Give me intel on a rob tactic so I won't fall for the same game and I'll thank you. Give me advice on where to find some fine, cheap, playful hottie and I'll light a candle in your honor. I hope my contributions are understood to be filed with the same intentions.
But then what the heck do I know.
Ss
As State TITTY INSPECTOR. How do I know this? I'm his supavisa. Agent SS, I need you to check the tittys of Ashley, Kara and Yujin asap. We have a report that one of them has natural bigguns. Make sure you check good and feel for fakeness or realness as the case may be and report back asap. Its a difficult job we do but somebody's got to do it.
Thought I was all alone in this crazy F ked up world. You guys are the dang bomb. I was doing this stuff in 77. 78. 79. 80 from one end of the Island to the other. And I was good. I was in LOVE with what you guys are talking about. Would still love to open a KB in NC. It would be great Stay tuned for lots of grandious mongering stories!
Eager to see the aftermath of VDay. No more nothing; flowers, stories, KBGs on Cloud Nine, LVBs on VISA. Nothing. Whahappened?
Eager to see the aftermath of VDay. No more nothing; flowers, stories, KBGs on Cloud Nine, LVBs on VISA. Nothing. Whahappened?I think LVB's got scared of us spectators, LOL. Actually, its the slowest I ever seen V-Day that I can remember. It's probably the economy along with the continued bad service imo.
I think LVB's got scared of us spectators, LOL. Actually, its the slowest I ever seen V-Day that I can remember. It's probably the economy along with the continued bad service imo.Also perhaps heeding the posts of the Vets here.
Do you read the forums hoping to get info on the KBG you sit with? For some, you havnt tested the waters with her yet so you ask here. For others, you been doing recon and you're horny and curious wanting to make your move if you get the right info. Still others just want to know if your DKBG is pure and innocent. Some of you even register just so you can ask about so and so KBG. Well my friends, I got the answer for all you thirsty sukebe or DKBG hunters. ALOHA KB INTEL has the scoops on ALL KBGs! If we don't know, we WILL KNOW. How? We ASK them, LOL. Don't worry, if they lie, we know. If they telling the truth, we know. GUARANTEED or money back. Yes, you can do all this yourself BUT we know you SHAME ask or CANNOT READ how she is. We not shame and have many years experience reading KBGs. For the incredible low price of 100dollars per question, the info is yours. Well worth it my friends. Also, LVBs, your secret DKBG name safe with us. TRUST ME, I'm a KB guy.
Do you read the forums hoping to get info on the KBG you sit with? For some, you havnt tested the waters with her yet so you ask here. For others, you been doing recon and you're horny and curious wanting to make your move if you get the right info. Still others just want to know if your DKBG is pure and innocent. Some of you even register just so you can ask about so and so KBG. Well my friends, I got the answer for all you thirsty sukebe or DKBG hunters. ALOHA KB INTEL has the scoops on ALL KBGs! If we don't know, we WILL KNOW. How? We ASK them, LOL. Don't worry, if they lie, we know. If they telling the truth, we know. GUARANTEED or money back. Yes, you can do all this yourself BUT we know you SHAME ask or CANNOT READ how she is. We not shame and have many years experience reading KBGs. For the incredible low price of 100dollars per question, the info is yours. Well worth it my friends. Also, LVBs, your secret DKBG name safe with us. TRUST ME, I'm a KB guy.Damnit Oldee! I was going to start the same thing, but do a monthly or annual membership, like CARFAX.
Do you read the forums hoping to get info on the KBG you sit with? Still others just want to know if your DKBG is pure and innocent. Some of you even register just so you can ask about so and so KBG.Oldee, you have described and identified the great majority of readers who want info and entertainment. Even get guys who just want an entertaining read.
More importantly, there are the interlopers here who are involved with and being deceived by the KBGs. These are the ones who need the most assistance. The info is simple (don't get personally involved) but the assistance can be serious as plenty good (but naive) guys get burned. We can't stress the truth enough here: that the KBG is a deceiver and manipulator who is playing multiple guys at one time; guarantee actresses with no scruples whatsoever to drain any sorry okole.
It's their pleasure, expertise, and job to get as much as possible using any asset (s) they may have. They will usually have and use several patrons at once to enrich and entertain themselves; they're always on-the-clock and ready to make new money from new victims.
But the KBGs don't always win; in fact, there is a just and stabilizing force, IMO. We should all be thankful for that. See you guys this long weekend.
This thread pretty much took over "Mind Of A Korean Working Girl" I guess its more general in regards to talking about KBs and other things related to it. I admit,"Mind Of A Korean Working Girl" was my favorite thread on this forum. Anxious to write and read what others write to.
Everyone is different and has their own style. I don't believe there is any one best style or way of dealing with KBGs and thought I'd share mine that works for me. I also don't believe any of us are experts in this game, we ALL stupid to a degree, LOL. I make KBGs my friend. Yes, you read it right, I don't treat them as my enemy but a FRIEND. After all, don't we do this with civilians? Yes I know what KBGs want which is MY or YOUR money but I still treat them with respect and have them play MY GAME without them realizing it. Its exactly what they do to YOU and most customers after all, in case you didn't know it. You are handsome, nice, smart, good dresser, good singer etc. Etc. Are examples of THIER game. I have counters for all of those but I use humor and interesting convo as my weapons. It doesn't work with all KBGs, but I don't want to play with those anyway which is a good thing. (ie: princessy KBGs). Interestingly, I learned this long ago as a kid and used it in everyday life with civilians because it works, at least for me. I was previledged as a kid to witness O Sensei (founder of Aikido) when he came to Hawaii and was told the ultimate was to make your enemy your friend and that it can and should be used in everyday life with people. Of course I never understood it being the dummy I still am but I think I understand it a little now. I use their aggressiveness and KBG tactics against themselves without them realizing it, just like what THEY DO to US. It doesn't work all the time but I don't get robbed these days either. Plus, its so much FUN regardless. Doing what everyone else normally does DON'T WORK in case you didn't know . Don't laugh at us sukebe guys, because we getting more feel for our money than you do, LOL. Yeah, I'm a crazy prankster and LEVEL2 stupid KB guy but at least I GOT TACTICS, do YOU? LOL. Anyhow, what are your tactics? Come on, share bros.
Damnit Oldee! I was going to start the same thing, but do a monthly or annual membership, like CARFAX.He-he! Back in the day a guy I knew was thinking of asking his cop friends to run a rap-sheet on this KBG who wanted to get serious with him :).
Everyone is different and has their own style. I don't believe there is any one best style or way of dealing with KBGs and thought I'd share mine that works for me. I also don't believe any of us are experts in this game, we ALL stupid to a degree, LOL. I make KBGs my friend. Yes, you read it right, I don't treat them as my enemy but a FRIEND. After all, don't we do this with civilians? Yes I know what KBGs want which is MY or YOUR money but I still treat them with respect and have them play MY GAME without them realizing it. Its exactly what they do to YOU and most customers after all, in case you didn't know it. You are handsome, nice, smart, good dresser, good singer etc. Etc. Are examples of THIER game. I have counters for all of those but I use humor and interesting convo as my weapons. It doesn't work with all KBGs, but I don't want to play with those anyway which is a good thing. (ie: princessy KBGs). Interestingly, I learned this long ago as a kid and used it in everyday life with civilians because it works, at least for me. I was previledged as a kid to witness O Sensei (founder of Aikido) when he came to Hawaii and was told the ultimate was to make your enemy your friend and that it can and should be used in everyday life with people. Of course I never understood it being the dummy I still am but I think I understand it a little now. I use their aggressiveness and KBG tactics against themselves without them realizing it, just like what THEY DO to US. It doesn't work all the time but I don't get robbed these days either. Plus, its so much FUN regardless. Doing what everyone else normally does DON'T WORK in case you didn't know . Don't laugh at us sukebe guys, because we getting more feel for our money than you do, LOL. Yeah, I'm a crazy prankster and LEVEL2 stupid KB guy but at least I GOT TACTICS, do YOU? LOL. Anyhow, what are your tactics? Come on, share bros.I treat KBGs with respect, but my game is takeout. I have a little something else to post tonight. I have a rather incredible story for you guys that I have to tell. Last October I was on website and struck up a conversation with a young Filipina girl who was working in China and wanted to visit Hawaii. One thing led to the next and we were soon conversing by phone. We talked almost daily for over 3 months and she decided to visit me. Two days before she was to leave she told me how the first family she worked for was extremely wealthy and when the family patriarch's wife died his kids decided to move him to Dubai where they are in business. Before the old man left, he gave my friend 4 bars of gold. She shared with me that she was going to bring the bars with her to Hawaii for safekeeping. I urged her not to do that on her initial trip because I had no idea how the Chinese government would view leaving with that much money. I urged her to contact the Brinks Company and investigate how to transfer money (gold bars) properly out of China.
She did not listen to me and the day of her departure was detained by Chinese Customs. I was afraid that they would confiscate the gold and really mess her up. She had worked for that gold and though she never expected the elderly gentleman and his wife to give her much but they loved her like a daughter and insisted that she keep it. No one knew of this but me. But even I did not have the full story.
However, with the help of her travel agent, a Mr. Chen, and a true gentleman and now friend he arranged for her bail (which I paid) and found a reputable company to ship the gold. Cost me at that point, just for bail. 11, 500. After the girl was released, and she said she was well treated, she confided to me that she actually had 10 bars and was going to ship it all to me. She had originally planned on keeping 6 bars there in China as a way to go back if she ever wanted to. She was then scheduled to leave again and a car backed into her and knocked her down the day before her departure. Fortunately, the guy was going slow and she was not badly injured. That was before Christmas. She still at that point had not shipped the gold. She spent a few days in the hospital and recovered nicely. She said that she was going to ship 10 bars to me and do it properly because she wanted to be with me and live in Hawaii. I had frequently described our lifestyle to her, the food, the beaches, the swimming, the surfing, the good times, etc. And I would help her find under the table work babysitting or care giving. Her written and spoken English are really good! I was planning on taking her to see Neil Diamond Saturday night.
The gold was finally shipped after the Chinese were paid, again by me, and the ten bars are now sitting safely in Hawaii USA FCU. Getting them out was expensive but I paid the fees knowing I would be reimbursed. The girl, in the meantime, had made the decision to stay here in Hawaii and we were going to find an immigration attorney to help her. She really has no relatives remaining in the PI and no reason to stay in China. She was due to arrive in Hawaii on Feb. 17 Delta 638. Last night I had a phone call that she was in a terrible auto accident on the way to the airport. Mr. Chen was visibly shaken on the phone. He said he was unable to sleep and was frantic in trying to reach me.
They are one day ahead but 6 hours behind us. When I got up this morning he did not know her condition but two people were killed on the spot and her condition is known to be critical. I have never met this girl but grew to like her gentle nature, joking with me, and delightful to talk to. I never doubted her sincerity and was going to help her establish her life here and hopefully help her even find Mr. Right. (not me). I am too old for her and insisited she keep open about getting married. She said I had been so kind to her and helped her so much that she wanted to be with me and what she had was mine. (meaning the gold).
I am set for life already I told her and that money is for her and for her to establish herself here. I told her that I had an ad running on CL to find her a nice roommate, a young lady, and she could go to school or whatever with that money. Now, as I write this I am shaking, the gold is here and she may not make it. Tears are streaming down my face. I have somewhere between 500, 000 to 600, 000 dollars in my safety deposit box that is hers. According to her, she has one relative still remaining in the PI. But I have no idea or who. I have not even reimbursed my expenses yet but of course I will. I guess I am pouring this out for people to read and wonder how life can be. Pray for her. I have not told anyone about his. Her name is Shaina. (pronounced Shyna). Again, keep her in your prayers.
I wish she recovers quickly and that it ends well for both your sakes. I have lived long enough to know that sometimes real life can be every bit as amazing as any fiction story. Thanks for sharing bro and hope things turn out well so you can get back to your normal mongering self.
I wish she recovers quickly and that it ends well for both your sakes. I have lived long enough to know that sometimes real life can be every bit as amazing as any fiction story. Thanks for sharing bro and hope things turn out well so you can get back to your normal mongering self.Yes, life is strange. Why did this happen to her? There is really nothing I can do but pray. Tears still flowing.
Which website did you meet her on? Maybe I might have luck meeting a girl also.
I treat KBGs with respect, but my game is takeout. I have a little something else to post tonight. I have a rather incredible story for you guys that I have to tell. Last October I was on website and struck up a conversation with a young Filipina girl who was working in China and wanted to visit Hawaii. One thing led to the next and we were soon conversing by phone. We talked almost daily for over 3 months and she decided to visit me. Two days before she was to leave she told me how the first family...
Hello Kitty
02-18-12, 22:02
Eager to see the aftermath of VDay. No more nothing; flowers, stories, KBGs on Cloud Nine, LVBs on VISA. Nothing. Whahappened?don't have anyone anymore so I don't really have to spend anymore. So I guess it was slow on V-Day.
don't have anyone anymore so I don't really have to spend anymore. So I guess it was slow on V-Day.Did anyone see LVBs bringing those things this past V-day? I didn't and its the first time in memory I didn't see at least some of that. I could have missed seeing it since customers come all different times while I bar hopped and left before midnight. I don't think so but would be funny if some LVBs was avoiding the spectators, LOL.
Do you read the forums hoping to get info on the KBG you sit with? For some, you havnt tested the waters with her yet so you ask here. For others, you been doing recon and you're horny and curious wanting to make your move if you get the right info.Howzit going Oldee bro? Sorry man stole your word. Sounds catchy and fun to say. Hehe. In regards to info on play girls, I think most guys do this.
1. He sees a hot BG in a bar he's visually attracted to.
2. He gets the chance to see her at the bar and have her sit next to him.
3. He buys her drinks, talks to her and waits until something happens.
4. He continues to buy drinks when she asks for the next drink every 5 min.
5. At this point, he's getting frustrated and wonders why there's no play based on the number of drinks / money he spent.
Howzit going Oldee bro? Sorry man stole your word. Sounds catchy and fun to say. Hehe. In regards to info on play girls, I think most guys do this.
1. He sees a hot BG in a bar he's visually attracted to.
2. He gets the chance to see her at the bar and have her sit next to him.
3. He buys her drinks, talks to her and waits until something happens.
4. He continues to buy drinks when she asks for the next drink every 5 min.
5. At this point, he's getting frustrated and wonders why there's no play based on the number of drinks / money he spent.6. He registers on usasg so he can ask: Does anyone have intel on bla bla at bla bla? He don't share what happens if he does get the info, LOL 7. After he gets nowhere with this KBG, he repeats steps 1 to 6 with different KBG and registers new screen name asking same question. The process never ends, lol.
6. He registers on usasg so he can ask: Does anyone have intel on bla bla at bla bla? He don't share what happens if he does get the info, LOLLOL. I thought I leave number 6 out for someone else to write.
Did anyone see LVBs bringing those things this past V-day? I didn't and its the first time in memory I didn't see at least some of that. I could have missed seeing it since customers come all different times while I bar hopped and left before midnight. I don't think so but would be funny if some LVBs was avoiding the spectators, LOL.The bars seemed unusually slow this year on VDay. The only time I saw flowers / balloons was already at the bar, usually for the mama. Friday night was interesting though as parking lots were full and lots of bars were SRO. Perhaps LVBs listened and abstained on VDay, only to get hit up or bitched at on Friday for not showing up for VDay.
Hello Kitty
02-19-12, 05:59
Did anyone see LVBs bringing those things this past V-day? I didn't and its the first time in memory I didn't see at least some of that. I could have missed seeing it since customers come all different times while I bar hopped and left before midnight. I don't think so but would be funny if some LVBs was avoiding the spectators, LOL.I was hanging out at Ellie the next day and saw roses in a vase by the left side of the bar. Small kind.
The bars seemed unusually slow this year on VDay. The only time I saw flowers / balloons was already at the bar, usually for the mama. Friday night was interesting though as parking lots were full and lots of bars were SRO. Perhaps LVBs listened and abstained on VDay, only to get hit up or bitched at on Friday for not showing up for VDay.I don't blame them. You figure there's spectators on the lookout. If a LVB does do that, hell stand out. Next thing you know a poster writes.
"Went blah bar on Tues night, seen this guy bringing in roses and balloons at about 10pm"
He's going to be talk of the town and on this forum for HI and 49 other states to read. How embarrassing. LOL.
Hello Kitty
02-19-12, 06:16
I don't blame them. You figure there's spectators on the lookout. If a LVB does do that, hell stand out. Next thing you know a poster writes.
"Went blah bar on Tues night, seen this guy bringing in roses and balloons at about 10pm"
He's going to be talk of the town and on this forum for HI and 49 other states to read. How embarrassing. LOL.Damn! I knew I should buy that little heart shaped balloons with the straw (that the only thing I can afford) and walk in all the bars. I be the talk of the town. Yeah baby!
The gold was finally shipped after the Chinese were paid, again by me, and the ten bars are now sitting safely in Hawaii USA FCU. Getting them out was expensive but I paid the fees knowing I would be reimbursed. The girl, in the meantime, had made the decision to stay here in Hawaii and we were going to find an immigration attorney to help her. She really has no relatives remaining in the PI and no reason to stay in China. She was due to arrive in Hawaii on Feb. 17 Delta 638. Last night I had a phone call that she was in a terrible auto accident on the way to the airport. Mr. Chen was visibly shaken on the phone. He said he was unable to sleep and was frantic in trying to reach me.Uh, don't mean to be a cynic, but did you actually get the 'gold' appraised / verified that it is real?
Sorry, but sounds like an elaborate scam. Those accidents seem too 'convenient'.
This is the slowest year for KBs I seen so far and I really don't want more bars to close. Why? I think competition and variety is good for us KB goers. Back in the day when had choke KBs, we had fun because of that reason among others. I notice so few bar reports these days, even from comment posters, hehe. Yeah, guys go but don't report but still used to have alot more reports. Thoughts?
This is the slowest year for KBs I seen so far and I really don't want more bars to close. Why? I think competition and variety is good for us KB goers. Back in the day when had choke KBs, we had fun because of that reason among others. I notice so few bar reports these days, even from comment posters, hehe. Yeah, guys go but don't report but still used to have alot more reports. Thoughts?The bar scene is changing more to the younger crowd. In which is probably why you are only seeing dead bars, as business picks up more in the later hours. As for reports, well there really isn't much to report. Its all the same now night in and night out. Not to mention a lot of the seniors who would frequent the boards have disappeared. It also appears a lot more people have gone to Kalihi more. Basically clientele is more spread so girls spread out.
The bar scene is changing more to the younger crowd. In which is probably why you are only seeing dead bars, as business picks up more in the later hours. As for reports, well there really isn't much to report. Its all the same now night in and night out. Not to mention a lot of the seniors who would frequent the boards have disappeared. It also appears a lot more people have gone to Kalihi more. Basically clientele is more spread so girls spread out.Its probably my bad eyes but I haven't noticed the under 40 crowd as being a majority these days except late at Evergreen, hehe. You making me feel old now Blade bro! Ah shit, I am, LOL. I thought I was around same age or slightly older than most KB goers, hehe. When I go Kalihi, I feel I'm young, LOL. I thought Kalihi was dead hense noone posts about there these days but maybe I got to go check it out. Eh, SS, maybe they going call us grampa instead of uncle now, LOL. Don't matter, I still sukebe and my hands are frisky and young! LOL
Its probably my bad eyes but I haven't noticed the under 40 crowd as being a majority these days except late at Evergreen, hehe. You making me feel old now Blade bro! Ah shit, I am, LOL. I thought I was around same age or slightly older than most KB goers, hehe. When I go Kalihi, I feel I'm young, LOL. I thought Kalihi was dead hense noone posts about there these days but maybe I got to go check it out. Eh, SS, maybe they going call us grampa instead of uncle now, LOL. Don't matter, I still sukebe and my hands are frisky and young! LOLWell what I meant is its slowly changing, not like the bars are flooded with youngins. I tend to see majority in EG or Camelot (and of course viet bars) , but I'll see some at a place like Damour, Moonflower, etc more often than usual. BTW, when I say youngins, I mean anywhere from 21-early thirties. Of course this is just my eyes, I just remember back in the day bars would be filled with 40+ men, doesn't seem like that anymore. As far as Kalihi goes youngins probably don't hit that area, so I think some of the older gents who would frequent town side more with Kalihi maybe. Just a thought.
KBs and KBG bartenders killing themselves with crappy service and attitude; KBGs wounding themselves with "princess" and "I love Me" attitudes; LVBs going broke with despair unable to keep their DKBGs and themselves afloat. Sounds and appears like a war scene or movie but it's actually happening as we text. I've been witnessing true LVBs getting scolded and "the funny kine" face from their DKBGs for not buying nekos; avoiding their hunnies by going local bar and drinking dayshift.
It's going to be a fun 2012.
KBs and KBG bartenders killing themselves with crappy service and attitude; KBGs wounding themselves with "princess" and "I love Me" attitudes; LVBs going broke with despair unable to keep their DKBGs and themselves afloat. Sounds and appears like a war scene or movie but it's actually happening as we text. I've been witnessing true LVBs getting scolded and "the funny kine" face from their DKBGs for not buying nekos; avoiding their hunnies by going local bar and drinking dayshift.
It's going to be a fun 2012.Watching the frustrated KBGs upset with customers holding back neko, LOL Better for us sukebe guys, hehe. The LVBs are fun to watch too as always.
Update for my kbg,
Guess she didn't want to be with me anymore. But at least I didn't blow wads of cash on her. Oldee and John Ross and the other senior members who commented on my situation. Thank you for your inputs. Anyways. Oldee and John Ross. Pm if you want to find out what happened. At least I know I will never go again with a kbg. No matter how beautiful they are.
Update for my kbg,
Guess she didn't want to be with me anymore. But at least I didn't blow wads of cash on her. Oldee and John Ross and the other senior members who commented on my situation. Thank you for your inputs. Anyways. Oldee and John Ross. Pm if you want to find out what happened. At least I know I will never go again with a kbg. No matter how beautiful they are.At least this time around you had good sex and didn't spend alot on her so saved choke $. However, KBGs often revert back to old LVBs when they get bored so be careful bro. Believe it or not, you are real lucky compared to others that spent alot or still spending on lost causes and they don't even get sex from the KBGs. The fact that she was into you to begin with means you must have some game for her to have chosen you to begin with. Now join the rest of us sukebe KBG hunters and have fun and don't revert back to LVB status. LOL.
At least this time around you had good sex and didn't spend alot on her so saved choke $. However, KBGs often revert back to old LVBs when they get bored so be careful bro. Believe it or not, you are real lucky compared to others that spent alot or still spending on lost causes and they don't even get sex from the KBGs. The fact that she was into you to begin with means you must have some game for her to have chosen you to begin with. Now join the rest of us sukebe KBG hunters and have fun and don't revert back to LVB status. LOL.Oldee,
Thanks for all the help and advice. John Ross and the other senior members. Never going to be sucked in to this kbg shit. Going to go out and get free sex if I can and play my game.
Now join the rest of us sukebe KBG hunters and have fun and don't revert back to LVB status. LOL.Better to be the predator instead of the prey; especially if spending money. Recently saw one old fut LVB being a slave for his DKBG by being the taxi and stooge. He carried all sorts of bulk packages from the vehicle into the KB; the DKBG didn't even lift a finger to help. Sad case of the "tail wagging the dog" and LVB-whipping. Oh well, went back inside to enjoy the cold one and watched Linmania.
At least this time around you had good sex and didn't spend alot on her so saved choke $. However, KBGs often revert back to old LVBs when they get bored so be careful bro. Believe it or not, you are real lucky compared to others that spent alot or still spending on lost causes and they don't even get sex from the KBGs. The fact that she was into you to begin with means you must have some game for her to have chosen you to begin with. Now join the rest of us sukebe KBG hunters and have fun and don't revert back to LVB status. LOL.You came out ahead on this one, learned some lessons, and seem like a guy with game. Now just go out and use your skills to bang as many as you can. Stay thirsty my friend.
BGs utilize the player mentality thinking and doing the same thing as what a male player would do for sex. The main difference is the BGs are doing it for money. Let's face it, if BGs were all lovey dovey females and emotionally needy, they wouldn't be able to continue doing what they're doing and be working in a bar for very long. The same thing with how a male player is. He's caught up oofing different women than be falling in love with them. He wouldn't be labeled a player if he's emotionally tied to that 1 female. A BG wouldn't be labeled a BG if she only sits with and sees one customer. She can try and do that but, what are the odds of her just sitting with that same customer every single night from the time she first started working in a bar till she quits the bar? What if it's slow? What about customers requesting her to sit by them? Will she just sit around and wait for the same customer she sits with?
No can trust man. You figure, BGs don't want their family and some of her friends to know that they working in a hostess bar. So, they keep it a secret. It's pretty obvious their life is a secret and will keep secrets from their customers as well. So, why would you trust a BG so much? Does a civilian LVG (lovergirl) trusts a player if she knows he's known to be seeing other women? Do you trust a BG if you know she sits with, goes out with and even gets physical with other customers that she comes in contact with?
"Nah, she wouldn't do that. She's a BG (Be Good). That's why she's working in a bar man because she's educating and comforting alot of men that need help. You seek knowledge, wisdom, motivation, financial advice, love, you name it she has the answers. That's why guys spend a lot on her because of all her relentless contributions to mankind"
LOL.
[QUOTE=Kapakahi; 1390265]Recently saw one old fut LVB being a slave for his DKBG by being the taxi and stooge. He carried all sorts of bulk packages from the vehicle into the KB; the DKBG didn't even lift a finger to help. Sad case of the "tail wagging the dog" and LVB-whipping. /QUOTE]I been seeing alot of that, especially before and after work. I know a KBG that has 5 or 6 LVB taxi drivers so never need real taxi. LOL. BTW, Blade, are you on the younger side? Like 40ish or younger? I ask cause its mostly us old futs at bars being the great majority except VB, SBs. EG late. I don't SEE the younger generation replacing us old futs. Back in my 20s and 30s we were not a small minority like those guys now. Hey Uki, why you pm me if your inbox always full, LOL.
These BGs, they'll push and hound like a bully if they feel that you're the type to give in and say yes to more drinks. She knows that you want to continue and is willing to just go with it if she asks for more. Her outlook.
"He really wants me! I can tell it's obvious. Hmm, let me ask for more. I'm not surprised that he'll just give in. Yes! I knew it! Hehe. Let me ask again"
She senses that it will take you awhile until you eventually show your firmness. It's similar to a bully in school picking on a kid over and over until finally the kid fights back. The bully knows the kid won't do anything and therefore he continues to bully. BGs do the same with their customers. They keep pushing and pushing you to a point where eventually you put your foot down and say enough already! But, by then, she knows how much she was able to get out of you. She has an idea on your limits and how far you will go. If a BG knows you splurged on her, she'll want to text / call you. To her, its a sure thing you're going to buy her drinks already. Like a bully in school, he'll physically pick on the smaller kid (s) that he knows he can pick on and take advantage of. A BG mentally picks on the weak minded ones that she knows she can take advantage of.
Assume the negative with these BGs. See if they can prove you wrong. That's what the women do with us men. They assume were needy, desperate, playboy, player, perverts etc. But, when they are proven wrong and eventually convinced, they be like.
"Oh, ok this guy is not a bad guy. I thought he was one of those types"
Women, like to think like this with us men. It's a way to test a man as well as being cautious at the same time.
Ask yourself this question, write it down and come up with answers to why you should fall in love with a BG. See what you can come up with. Other than being attracted to the BGs looks, what has she done to prove herself that you'd fall in love with her?
1. Oh uhmm, she compliments me saying I'm nice guy.
2. Uhmm, she texts me to come down to the bar because she misses me.
3. Uhmm, she has me take her around like a taxi. She must like me cause she could have asked someone else to take her around.
4. Uhmm, she has me spend money on her to. Shit, I spend money on her without her even asking.
5. Uhmm, she looks and sounds so sweet that I just can't help it. I'm falling for her!
True love man. Guaranteed to last through thick & thin. When's the wedding?
Assume the negative with these BGs. See if they can prove you wrong. That's what the women do with us men. They assume were needy, desperate, playboy, player, perverts etc. But, when they are proven wrong and eventually convinced, they be like.
"Oh, ok this guy is not a bad guy. I thought he was one of those types"
Women, like to think like this with us men. It's a way to test a man as well as being cautious at the same time.
Ask yourself this question, write it down and come up with answers to why you should fall in love with a BG. See what you can come up with. Other than being attracted to the BGs looks, what has she done to prove herself that you'd fall in love with her?
1. Oh uhmm, she compliments me saying I'm nice guy.
2. Uhmm, she texts me to come down to the bar because she misses me.
3. Uhmm, she has me take her around like a taxi. She must like me cause she could have asked someone else to take her around.
4. Uhmm, she has me spend money on her to. Shit, I spend money on her without her even asking.
5. Uhmm, she looks and sounds so sweet that I just can't help it. I'm falling for her!
True love man. Guaranteed to last through thick & thin. When's the wedding?On the surface sounds like noone would be THAT gullible and naive but I see that kind of LVBs all the time. LUST is blind in hostess bars, LOL.
You came out ahead on this one, learned some lessons, and seem like a guy with game. Now just go out and use your skills to bang as many as you can. Stay thirsty my friend.KBGmonger,
Don't worry bro. I will. I did love her but now it's over between her and I. At least I got sex. Was fun but now going to use my talents and bang some for free if I can.
Good luck!
Many guys wonder and ask this even if they've sat with a KBG several times. They often ask about a certain KBG because they are attracted or turned on to some extent. I have guys asking me in pm and see alot of that asking on the KBR thread. Some of you been just window shopping and curious. The simple answer is YMMV or find out yourself, LOL. Most KBGs won't or may IF you spend enough but for me, its all about READING her actions. KBGS may ask for neko while cozing up to you in some way to include jr rubbing. If they JUST ask, its "probably" just to test if they can get a drink with little effort on her part. Why should she put out if no need? MOST just ask for neko and get it because IT WORKS. Do you act like a LVB? Expect a LVB KBG response, meaning you aint getting play cause no need. While I never lead them on meaning I don't act like I'm trying to get in a relationship with them, I also try to read and interest them so they are not bored. You probably heard them say " I'm boring" meaning they are bored either because they want you get buy neko or you are not interesting. I try not to be boring with busy hands and interesting conversation that they have interest in. They usually get interested in ways to make more money from customers, LOL. Their body language will tell you alot, especially with YOURS. When they ask or say I'm naughty and sukebe, I proudly say YES, LOL. Does she say I'm not that kind of girl? NEXT! I have a little more patience with the hotties but not much and can tell the potential pretty good since I had alot of practice, mostly hand blocks etc, LOL. They won't get mad if you not rough but just playful naughty as they say in most cases. I think NOW is a good time for guys to work on their sukebe game because bars are slow and the competition for customers getting hard. The next time a KBG asks or tells you that you're naughty and sukebe, be proud and say YES! LOL. Why? You got NOTHING TO LOSE and probably will get MORE PLAY, LOL.
Their body language will tell you alot, especially with YOURS. When they ask or say I'm naughty and sukebe, I proudly say YES, LOL. Does she say I'm not that kind of girl? NEXT! They won't get mad if you not rough but just playful naughty. The next time a KBG asks or tells you that you're naughty and sukebe, be proud and say YES! LOL. Why? You got NOTHING TO LOSE and probably will get MORE PLAY, LOL.Yup, do not shy away from that question or line of questioning. Sukebe and proud of it!"Do you have a girlfriend?" Nope I can honestly say I do not. I got LOTS of girlfriends LOL not just one. And I tell 'them that. The thing I don't do is bounce around in one bar. I choose slowly and carefully cause the KBG I pick will have that bar assigned to her. This is assuming that things work out on the first "date". Now, things change sometimes cause if they become too familiar the KBG has a tendency of taking you for granted."Oh I can bounce tables and work other customers cause he'll wait like all the others" Nope. If the KBG wants to work other customers, I'm out of there, and the next time I come back I'll be looking for another KBG. And, I'll tell her if she asks, otherwise, I won't make a big deal out of it. Plus, don't ever leave an unfinished drink at my side. That puts a big X on the KBG as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully, the KBG's will talk about my style with their fellow workers and slowly learn about good customer relations. They are going to need it as this economy continues to be in the dumpster.
Oh yeah playful naughty. Mr Oldee has hit it right on. Playful (not forceful) Naughty. Smile, laugh, make fun of yourself, and go for the grabs / brushes / soft spots / ear nibble / neck peck. If the KBG backs off, I like to fold my hands like an altar boy and contritely say "Oh Sorry". If she laughs, I'm back at it within a few minutes. If she is upset with the fun "play" then it's going to be a short night honey, see yah.
Ss
Member #4713
02-29-12, 11:35
Got a newb question. Say I sit with a girl and want a HJ and agree to buy her 6 $20 shots, when do you buy those shots? I would think after to make sure you get serviced first, but not sure if that's acceptable. What do you experienced seniors do? Same question with the champagne rooms. Do you have to pay for that upfront? If you have to pay upfront how do you make sure you get the service promised? Or do you just take your chances?
Thanks in advance for any info.
H808
Got a newb question. Say I sit with a girl and want a HJ and agree to buy her 6 $20 shots, when do you buy those shots? I would think after to make sure you get serviced first, but not sure if that's acceptable. What do you experienced seniors do? Same question with the champagne rooms. Do you have to pay for that upfront? If you have to pay upfront how do you make sure you get the service promised? Or do you just take your chances?
Thanks in advance for any info.
H808Buy evenly throughout your escapade. Maybe two at a time. IMHO 120 / HJ is a bit too much.
Got a newb question. Say I sit with a girl and want a HJ and agree to buy her 6 $20 shots, when do you buy those shots? I would think after to make sure you get serviced first, but not sure if that's acceptable. What do you experienced seniors do? Same question with the champagne rooms. Do you have to pay for that upfront? If you have to pay upfront how do you make sure you get the service promised? Or do you just take your chances?
Thanks in advance for any info.
H808First of all, forget the chamPAIN room, period. Choosing the KBG willing to give you HJ or BJ will be a challenge unless you go Kools or Blue Sea but they older KBGs, LOL. Wouldn't pay more than. 6 for HJ BTW. A benji for BJ about right. The problem for you is FINDING that KBG willing to do those services. Generally you pay ahead BUT get good sampling and be clear about what you want and what she agrees to do. EVEN then, its a RISK. If you want garans sex go AMP or MT. KBs are a different game altogether.
Member #4713
02-29-12, 17:57
First of all, forget the chamPAIN room, period. Choosing the KBG willing to give you HJ or BJ will be a challenge unless you go Kools or Blue Sea but they older KBGs, LOL. Wouldn't pay more than. 6 for HJ BTW. A benji for BJ about right. The problem for you is FINDING that KBG willing to do those services. Generally you pay ahead BUT get good sampling and be clear about what you want and what she agrees to do. EVEN then, its a RISK. If you want garans sex go AMP or MT. KBs are a different game altogether.Thanks for the info. I've felt that chamPAIN before and once is enough. Well, actually twice. Pretty much black listed at a certain establishment because it got a little ugly. I do frequent the AMP's, but want a change of pace every now and then. Reading those posts about LVB's and I'm like shit, that's what I do / think. After reading this thread I feel a little better prepared next time I go. Good thread and info!
Member #4713
03-01-12, 18:28
Say you're sitting with a girl, getting play and having a good time. How often do you buy them a drink? I'm thinking maybe one every 15 minutes or so.
Say you're sitting with a girl, getting play and having a good time. How often do you buy them a drink? I'm thinking maybe one every 15 minutes or so.There are no set "rules" regarding time between drinks but every 5 minutes is too fast for me. It also depends on "type" of play, LOL. It's harder for her to go for drinks with you doing fiv, LOL. Learn stall tactics my friend, like fighting a fish on the line, use finese, LOL. Again, the easy part is deciding to buy or no buy during play, its getting the KBG to play is the hard part. CHOOSE WISELY bro and have fun while trying not to break the bank in your wallet.
Say you're sitting with a girl, getting play and having a good time. How often do you buy them a drink? I'm thinking maybe one every 15 minutes or so.It's hard to average it to 15 min per drink as it's going to vary on the BG, how fast she drinks, how soon she asks, how good you are in stalling on the drinks. In most cases, if the BG is pretty and you're attracted to her looks, you'll buy her the next round in 5 min. You'll just do it especially when you don't see other BGs that you like. Of course in your mind you're thinking: "Holy shit! That's fast! Asking tor the next drink already"
These BGs, when they know your happy and excited, they be going into overdrive and be asking for more drinks in a shorter time. "Oooh, here's my chance to take advantage of him!!!" It's that period of opportunity for them to capitalize on and take full advantage when they see you're vulnerable to give in.
Using aggressiveness is a good indicator to seeing if it's worth buying more drinks. If you try kissum or roam and she pushes back or implies she don't like, stop the drinks and give her the boot."Good! Now I know the answer on whether I should continue or not" Better than just spending and spending waiting for something to happen.
Master Yoda
03-02-12, 07:46
It's hard to average it to 15 min per drink as it's going to vary on the BG, how fast she drinks, how soon she asks, how good you are in stalling on the drinks. In most cases, if the BG is pretty and you're attracted to her looks, you'll buy her the next round in 5 min. You'll just do it especially when you don't see other BGs that you like. Of course in your mind you're thinking: "Holy shit! That's fast! Asking tor the next drink already"
These BGs, when they know your happy and excited, they be going into overdrive and be asking for more drinks in a shorter time."Oooh, here's my chance to take advantage of him!" It's that period of opportunity for them to capitalize on and take full advantage when they see you're vulnerable to give in.
Using aggressiveness is a good indicator to seeing if it's worth buying more drinks. If you try kissum or roam and she pushes back or implies she don't like, stop the drinks and give her the boot."Good! Now I know the answer on whether I should continue or not" Better than just spending and spending waiting for something to happen.Which leads to this, when is a BG considered to be a ROB? I know, to each his own, YMMV, but still, there is a fine line that needs to be crossed. One neko every 10-15 minutes for unlimited groping / fondling? The hand slap with her saying "Ya, hajjima"! She just goes and gets a neko without you saying ok or offering? Great sevice with a few markers and pupus? Fuck session in the parking lot? How many nekos are you willing to buy her? Justified?
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