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I need more Sugar. I am getting addicted. She came in the room dancing like the Stars. No make up. First provider I had, without make up. She makes up for it with her happy, funny, playful personality. She has a nicer body now. She said she gained 10 lbs. I think all of it went to her ass. She now has a full round booty. Better for DS. Not too many young ones will let you CIP. She can't take a pounding like Happy. More like GFE. With Michelle back, I have 3 ATF in paradise. There goes my tax return.Moved this quote from the Kison thread. Saw Sugar recently. Mama Chanel knows of my reduced testosterone levels but said despite her youth, Sugar will give me good service. In the last 6 months or so of going to Kison, I've had girls that pretty much met my needs without tiring me out: Skye, Pepsi, Happy, Paula. Now Sugar. To me Sugar looks younger than the others at Kison. She's about 5-3 in height, weight I'm not too good at, maybe 120. Slim build but not what I would call a spinner. Flat stomach but not athletic 6-pack. Fake boobs are round and firm. Probably saline as they look unnatural when she's naked. Probably look spectacular when she's dressed showing off cleavage. Friendly and comfortable personality. From NY so English is pretty good. LFK no problem but didn't try DFK. Tan all over with nice long legs. Shaved pussy with no landing strip. I couldn't feel any lube although I didn't DATY. Would have liked to have spent more time playing with a bald pussy. My dick is so small she probably didn't think she needed any lube. LOL. Cute, attractive face but not drop dead beautiful. GND looks. I'm a tough grader for L; have never given a 10 to anyone on this forum. 10 is reserved for real beauty. But L=7 for Sugar should be considered attractive but not a head turner at the mall without the body. I haven't seen Julie or Stella but Joy gets L=8 from me. That's my max for providers. None have ever come close to my nephew's daughter who is a cover girl model, she's a L=9, the top SI models with make up are L=10. (Why am I justifying my ratings? Dunno) She gave me a long massage that hinted at some professional training but not at Paula's level. She was nude throughout. S=7 because the pre-fuck didn't have any play with the balls and dick nor rimming or even fingertips in the asshole. Very sexy BBBJ. She was positioned so I could feel her up while she was sucking. 69 available but I didn't request. Either a very tight pussy or I just don't have staying power anymore. Came kinda fast after mish, cg and mish, cip. Took another shower, then she helped me dress. When I took out the donation she grabbed her purse and opened it wide for me to drop it in. I pushed it down her cleavage instead. Young skin, young body was real sexy for my roaming hands. Repeat would be okay but at my age, service is everything and I like others better. L=7, A=10, S=7. Place seemed unexpectedly busy for 5 pm on a Monday. Conclusion: Sugar is good for old farts.
Lopaka Smith
04-02-14, 05:27
Hear, hear! Totally agree... In my late 40s, never had kids, and have NO regrets about it!Exactly! More money for me to play... I love my toys.
Second that. Had Jessica. As go in the 11th ave entrance, check the three booths under the stair on the left. The back one is the most discret for play. HJ dropped $ for everything.
GL.Blue Sea is definitely for old guys. Walked in there last night a little after 7 and there were way more hostesses than customers. In fact, for awhile I was the only one sitting at the bar. One of the booths under the stairs was taken. Then another guy came in. I'm sure all us guys was over 50. I was there less than an hour and maybe there was one or two customer turnovers. None of the hostesses is under 50, IMHO, maybe a couple in their 40's, and every one of them will play. And they drink real booze. At least your neko ain't going for ice water. Bartender is the best looking but she didn't offer anything but chips and nuts. I think you can get a BJ or FS upstairs but I didn't ask how much, probably too much because they call it the champagne room. So this would be a garanz if you're looking for play at a kbg. I think it's a small step up from Canal although the last time I went to that bar it was still called Kools.
Lowlys One
04-10-14, 17:32
Any monger out there been to Blue Sea lately can make a report or pm on who's there, what's in play, etc.? We all know it's a MILF / gilf place but 40-50 somethings might still be young chicks to some of us mongers as long as the service is good and the price is right.If that's the bar by the pill box at the top of the hill in Kaimuki, checked it out long time ago, maybe fifteen years ago. Had defineatly play was lead to the upstairs bar (2nd floor) where there was absolutely no one, not even a bartender, think her name was Judy, looked mid thirties, pretty and slim but can't be sure, to long ago, took a booth with high backwalls near bar and got FS for 1.50, was fun, was surprised at the things that went on in that place which looks like any other neighborhood bar.
Haven't been in a couple of years, but got HJ from Sophia (2 times) and Jae (sp?, once). Bought 3 nekos to close the deal each time. Sophia said I look like an ex bf (poor bastid). She's got softer hands than Jae; didn't use lube, but Jae did.
Haven't been in a couple of years, but got HJ from Sophia (2 times) and Jae (sp?, once). Bought 3 nekos to close the deal each time. Sophia said I look like an ex bf (poor bastid). She's got softer hands than Jae; didn't use lube, but Jae did.Several years ago went upstairs with Jae. We were in the secluded booth at the top of the stairs. Fully clothed FS. Had to pull her panties to the side. Had to provide my own cover too. LOL. Don't think it was SOP for her. No lube, no cover. My tiny dickie made her go ow ow. No lube made her nani feel uber tight. Cum too fast too. Price then was $160. Probably $120 now. LOL.
Several years ago went upstairs with Jae. We were in the secluded booth at the top of the stairs. Fully clothed FS. Had to pull her panties to the side. Had to provide my own cover too. LOL. Don't think it was SOP for her. No lube, no cover. My tiny dickie made her go ow ow. No lube made her nani feel uber tight. Cum too fast too. Price then was $160. Probably $120 now. LOL.Use to stop by Blue Sea for night cap on the way home from Kalihi KBs a few years ago. Alternated between Jae and Sophia and one time had a Mary stroke me off in the side back booth. Was fun teasing Sophia as she was she was super curious wanting to see and touch my hardness. She would beg and plea to see it. Finally gave her the treat one day and she was breathing sob hard, hard to tell if really horny or acting but she wanted my juice. Jae was the same but not as hungry only for the green. She talked too much about her church involvement that I lost interest in her preaching. Just don't get the hypocrecy in giving HJs for drinks (3) and being a church member. Does anyone remember Mary... She had my fingers smelling ripe... In a kinda good way if you know what I mean.
Fill Um Up
04-12-14, 05:08
I have to agree with Wn5912 about Jae and Sophia. Even though both play in the back booths, Jae at times is not that money hunger. Jae would rather talk and does not push for drinks. Sophia is playful and says stuff like "You're my boyfriend", "You have a nice size", "You making me so wet". She does get really wet and did allow FIV. Did take her upstairs once and she got out of her clothes and gave me a HJ / BBBJ combo for .90.
Captin Crunch
04-12-14, 05:53
Several years ago went upstairs with Jae. We were in the secluded booth at the top of the stairs. Fully clothed FS. Had to pull her panties to the side. Had to provide my own cover too. LOL. Don't think it was SOP for her. No lube, no cover. My tiny dickie made her go ow ow. No lube made her nani feel uber tight. Cum too fast too. Price then was $160. Probably $120 now. LOL.Maybe next year will be $?
Use to stop by Blue Sea for night cap on the way home from Kalihi KBs a few years ago. Alternated between Jae and Sophia and one time had a Mary stroke me off in the side back booth. Was fun teasing Sophia as she was she was super curious wanting to see and touch my hardness. She would beg and plea to see it. Finally gave her the treat one day and she was breathing sob hard, hard to tell if really horny or acting but she wanted my juice. Jae was the same but not as hungry only for the green. She talked too much about her church involvement that I lost interest in her preaching. Just don't get the hypocrecy in giving HJs for drinks (3) and being a church member. Does anyone remember Mary... She had my fingers smelling ripe... In a kinda good way if you know what I mean.I was wondering if this was the same J from back in the day. Sounds like she is; she talked about church back then too, even after performing BBBJ. She must be well into her senior years by now.
I always got slightly weirded-out when a bargirl mentioned church during negotiations for take-out on a Saturday night, or presently when a relaxation girl brings it up even after performing all manner of lewd acts for money. Sleazy church girls; gotta love 'em!
I saw a Korean church that was loaded with 40+ milfs and they were all slim and beautiful. Any of them would've made wonderful body rub + HJ apartment indies. The above came to mind and I wanted to wander inside, but I can't read or understand Korean and didn't know if they'd let me in. I also did not want to go straight to hell, even though I probably will anyway :)
I was wondering if this was the same J from back in the day. Sounds like she is; she talked about church back then too, even after performing BBBJ. She must be well into her senior years by now.
I always got slightly weirded-out when a bargirl mentioned church during negotiations for take-out on a Saturday night, or presently when a relaxation girl brings it up even after performing all manner of lewd acts for money. Sleazy church girls; gotta love 'em!
I saw a Korean church that was loaded with 40+ milfs and they were all slim and beautiful. Any of them would've made wonderful body rub + HJ apartment indies. The above came to mind and I wanted to wander inside, but I can't read or understand Korean and didn't know if they'd let me in. I also did not want to go straight to hell, even though I probably will anyway :)Too funny Mr, HM! I was thinking about cruising the K-Church scene myself. I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us started going to the "services". Would they allow beer in there? And yes, those occasional in the bar or in the bed K-girls who start talking religion. Had one want to pray with me right after we finished doing the deed. Told her 'nuff already, tired of hearing her calling out "Oh God, Oh God".
Ss.
Any monger out there been to Blue Sea lately can make a report or pm on who's there, what's in play, etc.? We all know it's a MILF / gilf place but 40-50 somethings might still be young chicks to some of us mongers as long as the service is good and the price is right.Blue Sea had a change of management on April 1st, so there is a bunch of newer ladies working there. For the most part, the ladies there are ALL in their 40's +, however the atmosphere is laid back and the ladies are friendly. Though I've been going there for years, I generally don't partake in the side action. Sophia is still there and plays, but she does not come in till about 6:30 to 7:00 pm. She will go upstairs for a modest amount. Kimmie also plays and she is there from 12 noon till about 8:00 or 9:00 pm. J or Jae is still there but has not aged well IMO. Mary, has moved on and is now working as a bartender at that side bar inside of SPLASH.
Sophia looks younger then Kimmie but appears to have had some work done on her face.
Kimmie is thinner and around the same age as Sophia, which I would guess is in the 48-55 age range.
Both ladies are very nice and not pushy at all. Well, all the ladies are nice there but generally older and not my cup of tea.
Kaima.
Blue Sea had a change of management on April 1st, so there is a bunch of newer ladies working there. For the most part, the ladies there are ALL in their 40's +, however the atmosphere is laid back and the ladies are friendly. Though I've been going there for years, I generally don't partake in the side action. Sophia is still there and plays, but she does not come in till about 6:30 to 7:00 pm. She will go upstairs for a modest amount. Kimmie also plays and she is there from 12 noon till about 8:00 or 9:00 pm. J or Jae is still there but has not aged well IMO. Mary, has moved on and is now working as a bartender at that side bar inside of SPLASH.
Sophia looks younger then Kimmie but appears to have had some work done on her face.
Kimmie is thinner and around the same age as Sophia, which I would guess is in the 48-55 age range.
Both ladies are very nice and not pushy at all. Well, all the ladies are nice there but generally older and not my cup of tea.
Kaima.Was there lasts week around 9 pm. It was actually quite crowded-most of the booths taken. I heard that there were 3 mamas / owners and they brought their lvbs with them. I may have lost something in the translation. My guess is that Kimmie is actually pushing 60. But that's unimportant if you are drinking there in the afternoon LOL.
Sophia looks younger then Kimmie but appears to have had some work done on her face.
Kimmie is thinner and around the same age as Sophia, which I would guess is in the 48-55 age range.
Both ladies are very nice and not pushy at all. Well, all the ladies are nice there but generally older and not my cup of tea.
Kaima.I'd place them at 60 plus but that's maybe just my bad eye sight. Still yet, friendly and not pushy and younger than me LOL.
Ss.
I'd place them at 60 plus but that's maybe just my bad eye sight. Still yet, friendly and not pushy and younger than me LOL.
Ss.Yup, kimmie is more like 60's...my friend is related to her.
Rockin Mick
05-02-14, 23:56
Have any of you fine gentlemen of a certain age ever tried a peptide called PT-141? I'd be very interested in your reports of it's efficacy in your situation and how you used it.
Captin Crunch
05-06-14, 01:54
Blue Sea had a change of management on April 1st, so there is a bunch of newer ladies working there. For the most part, the ladies there are ALL in their 40's +, however the atmosphere is laid back and the ladies are friendly. Though I've been going there for years, I generally don't partake in the side action. Sophia is still there and plays, but she does not come in till about 6:30 to 7:00 pm. She will go upstairs for a modest amount. Kimmie also plays and she is there from 12 noon till about 8:00 or 9:00 pm. J or Jae is still there but has not aged well IMO. Mary, has moved on and is now working as a bartender at that side bar inside of SPLASH.
Sophia looks younger then Kimmie but appears to have had some work done on her face.
Kimmie is thinner and around the same age as Sophia, which I would guess is in the 48-55 age range.
Both ladies are very nice and not pushy at all. Well, all the ladies are nice there but generally older and not my cup of tea.
Kaima.Heard new mama is Janet from Princess Palace in Pearl City below Flamingos.
Heard new mama is Janet from Princess Palace in Pearl City below Flamingos.Somebody said get new girls but I only read about Jae, Sophia, Jessica, and Kimmie. Those are all oldies but goodies (usually). Got a lineup of new names? That place seems pretty tight for a whole lot more girls. Unless they open up upstairs for "regular" hosting.
Heard new mama is Janet from Princess Palace in Pearl City below Flamingos.Wow CC you tapped into the KB wireless. So you went check out the place?
Captin Crunch
05-07-14, 04:06
Wow CC you tapped into the KB wireless. So you went check out the place?This is not the KB thread.
By now everyone is aware of the relationship between the notorious eighty-year-old billionaire Donald Sterling and the much younger V. Stiviano (photos below), his former "girlfriend".
She called herself his "silly rabbit," LOL.
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Recently I saw an interesting interview of him in which he said: "I thought she cared for me. I was stupid. How could a girl care for a man fifty-one years older." Then the billionaire choked up and began crying. He subsequently repeated: "I thought that woman really cared for me".
As an older guy myself, that reminded me of all the older guys who've been fooled into thinking that much younger and more attractive women -- such as bargirls here in Hawaii and charming gold-diggers in Thailand and the Philippines -- are genuinely "in love" with them and truly care about them, rather than really caring about their money and whatever their money can buy. So, regardless of whether a guy is filthy rich, it seems that some good advice would be: "Have lots of fun, relish the ride, savor the fantasy, but remain realistic and don't be fooled".
As for the crying billionaire, hey, you still have an estimated net worth of about $1,900,000,000, and there are literally thousands of "party girls" available. So dry your tears and try to enjoy whatever time you have left on earth.
By now everyone is aware of the relationship between the notorious eighty-year-old billionaire Donald Sterling and the much younger V. Stiviano (photos below), his former "girlfriend".
She called herself his "silly rabbit," LOL.
319790 319789 319791.
Recently I saw an interesting interview of him in which he said: "I thought she cared for me. I was stupid. How could a girl care for a man fifty-one years older." Then the billionaire choked up and began crying. He subsequently repeated: "I thought that woman really cared for me".
As an older guy myself, that reminded me of all the older guys who've been fooled into thinking that much younger and more attractive women -- such as bargirls here in Hawaii and charming gold-diggers in Thailand and the Philippines -- are genuinely "in love" with them and truly care about them, rather than really caring about their money and whatever their money can buy. So, regardless of whether a guy is filthy rich, it seems that some good advice would be: "Have lots of fun, relish the ride, savor the fantasy, but remain realistic and don't be fooled".
As for the crying billionaire, hey, you still have an estimated net worth of about $1,900,000,000, and there are literally thousands of "party girls" available. So dry your tears and try to enjoy whatever time you have left on earth.If I had all that money..The last thing I want is the same pussy day after day. I would go AMP in the morning for a BJ. Then Daty for brunch. In between some BBBJ CIM for lunch. Early dinner with k9. And more BJ for the evening and end the night with one of the VIP girl and use her as my teddy bear. BTW. They come to me with my limo pick up and drop off...365 days a year till I drop dead. I am talking about ALL the providers and take out BG on the entire island till I kick the bucket.
If I had all that money..The last thing I want is the same pussy day after day. I would go AMP in the morning for a BJ. Then Daty for brunch. In between some BBBJ CIM for lunch. Early dinner with k9. And more BJ for the evening and end the night with one of the VIP girl and use her as my teddy bear. BTW. They come to me with my limo pick up and drop off...365 days a year till I drop dead. I am talking about ALL the providers and take out BG on the entire island till I kick the bucket.Now that's the spirit!
If I had all that money..The last thing I want is the same pussy day after day. I would go AMP in the morning for a BJ. Then Daty for brunch. In between some BBBJ CIM for lunch. Early dinner with k9. And more BJ for the evening and end the night with one of the VIP girl and use her as my teddy bear. BTW. They come to me with my limo pick up and drop off...365 days a year till I drop dead. I am talking about ALL the providers and take out BG on the entire island till I kick the bucket.Believe me, you ain't going to be doing all that when you're 80.
Believe me, you ain't going to be doing all that when you're 80."A little girl asked me what am I gonna do.
When I get old and blue and worn clear through?
And I say, by that time I ought to be in my prime.
I'm gonna strut like a cock until I'm NINETY-NINE!
Walk like a man, and talk like a man.
Walk like a man, hey baby, you can call me your man!
--Grand Funk Railroad.
That's going to be my motto until I drop!
Rockin Mick
05-15-14, 04:21
Sex sure is different at my age but it's sure not bad. I may even appreciate it more and I sure have deeper feelings about it. It doesn't always end it that same high flying fireworks display like in the 20's and 30's and 40's and it takes some doing to even get to the end sometimes but at the worst it's still my favorite thing in life. My second favorite thing is the company of a beautiful woman...they kinda fit together. I won't be stopping either any time soon. Keep on keepin' on!
Played twilight golf at HCC and after a few decided to see what was going on with some of the posts I read. Started at Canal and got a nice little massage while drinking a couple of cold ones there. Remembered Oldee's advice and didn't pop for a drink. Plus Angie was more along the lines of GILF and about 90#'s. The bar was pretty sedate so moved along to spotlite where there were more girls, kadaoke going on but quiet. After two beers moved on to Cleopatra, where some other golfers were there drinking and singing. The lovely Christy was bartending, and WOW what a great and healthy bod! Bought her a drink then moved on. By this time it was about 10:30 and on the way home stopped off at Blue Sea to see what the change of management might have done. Angela was new and tending bar. And the veterans, Jay, Jessica and Sophie hard at work. These gals have all seen better days (as I have) but were still grimly on point to see if they would wangle a couple of drinks. They were so (haha) Beguiling, I had to buy a couple and I guess it was well worth the entertainment value. Place was bright, only two other guys there, regulars I suppose but there was movement in the back row of booths so dunno what ensued there. I got home before midnight and got a good nights sleep after all those beers. Thanks for all the postings, glad I could submit something. Aloha!
All this talk of blue sea makes me want to go. Hehe. I know Sophia plays, Jessica is cool. Only flirted with me. Calls me younger brother. Jae? Hmm probably got to see her face. Forget already been some years since I been there. But yeah right next to subway and pull box. MILF action to the max. No 20 something hotties there.
I was wondering if this was the same J from back in the day. Sounds like she is; she talked about church back then too, even after performing BBBJ. She must be well into her senior years by now.
I always got slightly weirded-out when a bargirl mentioned church during negotiations for take-out on a Saturday night, or presently when a relaxation girl brings it up even after performing all manner of lewd acts for money. Sleazy church girls; gotta love 'em!
I saw a Korean church that was loaded with 40+ milfs and they were all slim and beautiful. Any of them would've made wonderful body rub + HJ apartment indies. The above came to mind and I wanted to wander inside, but I can't read or understand Korean and didn't know if they'd let me in. I also did not want to go straight to hell, even though I probably will anyway :)I think you would have seen a familiar face! One of my favorite MT + HE was going to a Korean church for a while. She would tell me about it while she was massaging me. You once told me once "I think you'll like her".
Rockin Mick
06-09-14, 00:24
I've been researching PT-141 for a while and finally hooked up with some of this 100% legal substance. I prepared it for injection exactly as recommended on several websites, and injected a 1. 5 mg dose into my subcutaneous belly fat near the belly button. Five hours later I was ready to hump any leg that came close enough to me. I was as horny as a bull in a pasture full of cows in heat. Any past ED issues were gone and there was a slightly familiar rock hardness that hasn't been there for years. That dose and sub quant ones have cost me some money at some local establishments but I was glad to spend it. I paired some of the doses with 5 or 10 mg of Cialis for a little extra kick and it added significantly to the overall experience. Duration of effects were between 24 and 48 hours with a 5-6 hour onset of effect. 10 mg of The magic substance costs around $40 shipped. Insulin syringes and bacteriostatic water adds a bit but I thought it was a bargin for a near fountain of youth.
Mick.
Rockin Mick
06-11-14, 23:12
Some of you who have ask for more details on PT-141 may want to check out this site. Lots of info there. www.melanotanforum.com There is enough there that you will be able to have your own adventure if you use it. Enjoy!
Mick.
She says that she is 45 but prepare to run for the hills on this one. She looks definitely older than 60!
There is a reason she doesn't show her face on the ads cause she's really really I mean granny old.
Just by looking at her pictures you can tell she's really frickin old. Her pictures alone make you go soft.I wonder if providers sometimes want to "run for the hills" when they see me and other old customers. LOL. "Geez, this guy Red looks almost as old as my grandpa, but dammit, I need the cash".
Thought for the day: Isn't it ironic how old female providers are often considered sexually repulsive, yet old male customers often still consider themselves sexually desirable? LOL.
Cosmic Kid
06-13-14, 19:50
Okay, hows about we clarify this, nail it down: In your opinion, what exactly constitutes an old guy these days? We talking strictly age in years and not how a monger looks? So what is the age breakdown then? Where officially (age-wise) is the borderline between a young hobbiest and an old one? For example, 40 years old? 50? 60? Whatcha think?
Honolulu Chas
06-13-14, 21:21
Okay, hows about we clarify this, nail it down: In your opinion, what exactly constitutes an old guy these days? We talking strictly age in years and not how a monger looks? So what is the age breakdown then? Where officially (age-wise) is the borderline between a young hobbiest and an old one? For example, 40 years old? 50? 60? Whatcha think?I'll say 45.
Okay, hows about we clarify this, nail it down: In your opinion, what exactly constitutes an old guy these days? We talking strictly age in years and not how a monger looks? So what is the age breakdown then? Where officially (age-wise) is the borderline between a young hobbiest and an old one? For example, 40 years old? 50? 60? Whatcha think?If you still get morning wood you ain't old. That is unless she's young enough to be your daughter then that's a whole 'nother story haha. You're only as old as you feel, monger on!
Okay, hows about we clarify this, nail it down: In your opinion, what exactly constitutes an old guy these days? We talking strictly age in years and not how a monger looks? So what is the age breakdown then? Where officially (age-wise) is the borderline between a young hobbiest and an old one? For example, 40 years old? 50? 60? Whatcha think?I know the adage you're only as old as you think you are but there are physical changes that we experience as we get older and it varies from person to person. I'm betting some guys my age still fucking without meds, some need stronger meds than I do, some don't haven't cum in years, etc. Physical and medical condition can make a difference too and although most people say I look way younger than I am I know my body not young with tons of energy anymore. I started experiencing softening during intercourse in early 50's. ED meds do work for me but even at almost 68 I only need 1/4 of 100 mg Viagra to keep it up. Good part is, after effects very minimal where as 1/2 pill I got flushing feeling. In general, I'd say 60's is old, 50's getting there, 40's not so much. But individual cases vary.
I know the adage you're only as old as you think you are but there are physical changes that we experience as we get older and it varies from person to person. I'm betting some guys my age still fucking without meds, some need stronger meds than I do, some don't haven't cum in years, etc. Physical and medical condition can make a difference too and although most people say I look way younger than I am I know my body not young with tons of energy anymore. I started experiencing softening during intercourse in early 50's. ED meds do work for me but even at almost 68 I only need 1/4 of 100 mg Viagra to keep it up. Good part is, after effects very minimal where as 1/2 pill I got flushing feeling. In general, I'd say 60's is old, 50's getting there, 40's not so much. But individual cases vary.In another 20 yrs, they'll have a treatment and / or supplementation available that will guarantee a rock hard 45 degree cock regardless of whether you're 20 or 80. Something much, much better than current oral meds or penile injections.
Rockin Mick
06-14-14, 17:17
Stared noticing changes at about 60 but five years later I'm still capable and I enjoy it as much or more than ever before. It is different. Reminds me of that song lyric, "I'm not as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was!" .
Mick.
I wonder if providers sometimes want to "run for the hills" when they see me and other old customers. LOL. "Geez, this guy Red looks almost as old as my grandpa, but dammit, I need the cash".
Thought for the day: Isn't it ironic how old female providers are often considered sexually repulsive, yet old male customers often still consider themselves sexually desirable? LOL.That is what makes us old guys desireable. $$. Cash is King. LOL.
I wonder if providers sometimes want to "run for the hills" when they see me and other old customers. LOL. "Geez, this guy Red looks almost as old as my grandpa, but dammit, I need the cash".
Thought for the day: Isn't it ironic how old female providers are often considered sexually repulsive, yet old male customers often still consider themselves sexually desirable? LOL.Hello, Red:
I am an old fart, too; and I'm uglier than all of them, but, to put it bluntly: Yes, I find older (over 50) female providers not attractive.
If they say that they are " 40 years old", I just add 10 or more years to it. Thanks for all your detailed postings. Happy hunting.
Especially for women under 40.
Okay, hows about we clarify this, nail it down: In your opinion, what exactly constitutes an old guy these days? We talking strictly age in years and not how a monger looks? So what is the age breakdown then? Where officially (age-wise) is the borderline between a young hobbiest and an old one? For example, 40 years old? 50? 60? Whatcha think?
Hmm I don't know about that braddah Chas. Age has *somewhat* caught up to me; teeter-tottering; my current job doesn't help any. Sit on my fat ass for 9 hours a day; sucks. I remember going to any AMP and taking off all my clothes to have a providers eyes beam with happiness like: "oh! Young boy. Bald. Joy!" LOL!! But now; my stomach is grotesque; getting a little saggy due to lack of motivation and exercise. Also, I agree with braddah Puuhale. While MILFs are enjoyable, there is a certain age limit I wont go past (GILF status). You can be 50, but if you look 30 (like Monica) hey its all Good. Not saying Monica is 50, as I dont know her true age. Just as an example. I think braddah Puuhale meant like if youre old and saggy and dont take care of yourself kinda 50.
Sorry I been away for so long braddahs, but hopefully I'm semi back; got some reports to add.
Got a lot of reading to catch up on. Hate when that happens. Lazy to read all the posts just to be caught up in the mix.
Braddah H.
Darkman808
06-29-14, 03:54
Okay, hows about we clarify this, nail it down: In your opinion, what exactly constitutes an old guy these days? We talking strictly age in years and not how a monger looks? So what is the age breakdown then? Where officially (age-wise) is the borderline between a young hobbiest and an old one? For example, 40 years old? 50? 60? Whatcha think?Ain't the years braddah. It's the mileage!
I've been researching PT-141 for a while and finally hooked up with some of this 100% legal substance. I prepared it for injection exactly as recommended on several websites, and injected a 1. 5 mg dose into my subcutaneous belly fat near the belly button. Five hours later I was ready to hump any leg that came close enough to me. I was as horny as a bull in a pasture full of cows in heat. Any past ED issues were gone and there was a slightly familiar rock hardness that hasn't been there for years. That dose and sub quant ones have cost me some money at some local establishments but I was glad to spend it. I paired some of the doses with 5 or 10 mg of Cialis for a little extra kick and it added significantly to the overall experience. Duration of effects were between 24 and 48 hours with a 5-6 hour onset of effect. 10 mg of The magic substance costs around $40 shipped. Insulin syringes and bacteriostatic water adds a bit but I thought it was a bargin for a near fountain of youth.
Mick.I tried it this weekend for the first time and am disappointed. Friday, I injected. 5 mg. Twenty minutes later, face became flushed and red with a bit of mild stomach upset. About two hours later, all of a sudden, I started feeling a bit horny and jr was starting to enlarge. I've never had such a spontaneous, euphoric feeling before, but it lasted no more than five minutes, and that was it. No more. WTF!
So, today, I upped the dosage. I injected 1. 2 mg in the morning. About two hours later I started feeling a bit horny and jr again was growing. This feeling was repeated about four times at irregular intervals over the next three hours. But each "spontaneous erection" lasted for no more than five minutes. So I really don't see any point in injecting this stuff into my body.
I think not worth the trouble and effort--at least in my case. But it looks like you have had great success with it.
And the bottle of PT-141 has a label affixed to it that says "Not for Humans." Yikes! But, I know lots of people are using it with no serious side effects.
http://melanotanforum.com/
Rockin Mick
08-31-14, 23:27
You might try adding a half tab (10 mg) of Cialis and a beautiful woman to the mix. I do know that results vary. I can not use it more than 2-3 days in a row without the results dropping off significantly. You might go back to that forum and PM the admin for suggestions. He's very helpful and might suggest some other options as well.
And the bottle of PT-141 has a label affixed to it that says "Not for Humans." Yikes! But, I know lots of people are using it with no serious side effects.Although I don't know anything about this stuff (Bremelanotide / PT-141), the biopharmaceutical corporation that's trying to develop it reports: "Plans for Phase 3 clinical studies have been delayed pending review of Food and Drug Administration concerns about the acceptable benefit / risk ratio to support progression of the program into Phase 3".
Haven't been on the forum much lately. Been traveling a lot. But couple incidents recently reminded me that a lot of us old guys still like monger but no can oof like the young studs. Figured this would be my report #1000 so it belongs on the thread that I moderate, although I'm not quite sure what that means, and I haven't done any moderating. I go to Misty every so often. The old gals there are still younger than I and can get just the right amount action for a drink and a Benjamin. Seen Susan several times. As others have reported she's real friendly and the service is great. So I sit at the bar, get approached with a "Hi, long time no see" and a hand immediately slides up my shorts and junior jumps into action. Haven't seen Susan for couple of months. Buy a drink for her and we go to a booth in the back facing the stage and make out. Notice that her hairdo seems different and she looks a bit younger. Boobs are great looking too, perky, large and firm. $ and we head to the secluded booth in back. She strips, hey those look like store bought boobs! She must've had them done since last time I saw her. Nice BBBJ and then crcg. Covered? Last time Susan offered bb everything. But covered is ok with me though. Amazing even with cover I blow in only one position. After clean up she says, "Be sure to remember me next time you come". I say, "Yeah, I'll ask for Suzie. " She yelps, "No, Lily!" Oops. Next time I go to Misty I sit at the bar again waiting for Lily to come on over. Same routine: "Hi, long time no see" and a hand on my crotch. She's standing next to me, I buy her a drink and she lets me run my hand up the back of her leg to play with her ass. Being that she's wearing a tight miniskirt, her ass is exposed to the rest of the bar. Junior has jumped so we go to a back booth and she even takes off her panties and sticks them in my pocket. No bra tonight so I'm enjoying all access. Give her $ and we go to the secluded booth. She goes, "Long time no see, so anything you want, condom or no condom, fuck naked, cum in my mouth, go to the room, or I can take you home. " We play some more and end up with bbbjtcim. Wonderful O. "OK baby, come next week and ask for me, okay?" "Okay, I'll ask for Lily. " "No, bad boy, ask for Susan. " Oh, sorry, old fart get bad eyesight and poor memory. I went early last month, same routine at the bar and in the booths with Nina. After pau cum, she gives me her card. Now I can remember who to ask for. Card says her name is Lina. LOL. Fucking lousy hearing too.
Eh you may be old but at least you go out and look for action!
That was one good, hilarious story. This is why I like hanging with the older guys and gals. A lot of you folks more genuine. And no shame! Rock out wit your cock out Unko.
NO DISRESPECT TO THE YOUNGER PEEPS!!!
Haven't been on the forum much lately. Been traveling a lot. But couple incidents recently reminded me that a lot of us old guys still like monger but no can oof like the young studs. Figured this would be my report #1000 so it belongs on the thread that I moderate, although I'm not quite sure what that means, and I haven't done any moderating. I go to Misty every so often. The old gals there are still younger than I and can get just the right amount action for a drink and a Benjamin. Seen Susan several times. As others have reported she's real friendly and the service is great. So I sit at the bar, get approached with a "Hi, long time no see" and a hand immediately slides up my shorts and junior jumps into action. Haven't seen Susan for couple of months. Buy a drink for her and we go to a booth in the back facing the stage and make out. Notice that her hairdo seems different and she looks a bit younger. Boobs are great looking too, perky, large and firm. $ and we head to the secluded booth in back. She strips, hey those look like store bought boobs! She must've had them done since last time I saw her. Nice BBBJ and then crcg. Covered? Last time Susan offered bb everything. But covered is ok with me though. Amazing even with cover I blow in only one position. After clean up she says, "Be sure to remember me next time you come". I say, "Yeah, I'll ask for Suzie. " She yelps, "No, Lily!" Oops. Next time I go to Misty I sit at the bar again waiting for Lily to come on over. Same routine: "Hi, long time no see" and a hand on my crotch. She's standing next to me, I buy her a drink and she lets me run my hand up the back of her leg to play with her ass. Being that she's wearing a tight miniskirt, her ass is exposed to the rest of the bar. Junior has jumped so we go to a back booth and she even takes off her panties and sticks them in my pocket. No bra tonight so I'm enjoying all access. Give her $ and we go to the secluded booth. She goes, "Long time no see, so anything you want, condom or no condom, fuck naked, cum in my mouth, go to the room, or I can take you home. " We play some more and end up with bbbjtcim. Wonderful O. "OK baby, come next week and ask for me, okay?" "Okay, I'll ask for Lily. " "No, bad boy, ask for Susan. " Oh, sorry, old fart get bad eyesight and poor memory. I went early last month, same routine at the bar and in the booths with Nina. After pau cum, she gives me her card. Now I can remember who to ask for. Card says her name is Lina. LOL. Fucking lousy hearing too.
Lualualei808
09-12-14, 21:56
Haven't been on the forum much lately. Been traveling a lot. But couple incidents recently reminded me that a lot of us old guys still like monger but no can oof like the young studs. Figured this would be my report #1000 so it belongs on the thread that I moderate, although I'm not quite sure what that means, and I haven't done any moderating. I go to Misty every so often. The old gals there are still younger than I and can get just the right amount action for a drink and a Benjamin. Seen Susan several times. As others have reported she's real friendly and the service is great. So I sit at the bar, get approached with a "Hi, long time no see" and a hand immediately slides up my shorts and junior jumps into action. Haven't seen Susan for couple of months. Buy a drink for her and we go to a booth in the back facing the stage and make out. Notice that her hairdo seems different and she looks a bit younger. Boobs are great looking too, perky, large and firm. $ and we head to the secluded booth in back. She strips, hey those look like store bought boobs! She must've had them done since last time I saw her. Nice BBBJ and then crcg. Covered? Last time Susan offered bb everything. But covered is ok with me though. Amazing even with cover I blow in only one position. After clean up she says, "Be sure to remember me next time you come". I say, "Yeah, I'll ask for Suzie. " She yelps, "No, Lily!" Oops. Next time I go to Misty I sit at the bar again waiting for Lily to come on over. Same routine: "Hi, long time no see" and a hand on my crotch. She's standing next to me, I buy her a drink and she lets me run my hand up the back of her leg to play with her ass. Being that she's wearing a tight miniskirt, her ass is exposed to the rest of the bar. Junior has jumped so we go to a back booth and she even takes off her panties and sticks them in my pocket. No bra tonight so I'm enjoying all access. Give her $ and we go to the secluded booth. She goes, "Long time no see, so anything you want, condom or no condom, fuck naked, cum in my mouth, go to the room, or I can take you home. " We play some more and end up with bbbjtcim. Wonderful O. "OK baby, come next week and ask for me, okay?" "Okay, I'll ask for Lily. " "No, bad boy, ask for Susan. " Oh, sorry, old fart get bad eyesight and poor memory. I went early last month, same routine at the bar and in the booths with Nina. After pau cum, she gives me her card. Now I can remember who to ask for. Card says her name is Lina. LOL. Fucking lousy hearing too.Congratulations on your 1000th! Great post and funny as hell!
Eh you may be old but at least you go out and look for action!
That was one good, hilarious story. This is why I like hanging with the older guys and gals. A lot of you folks more genuine. And no shame! Rock out wit your cock out Unko.
NO DISRESPECT TO THE YOUNGER PEEPS!!!Ok. Here goes report #1001. I'm reporting on my visit with Kelly at Kison and putting it in this thread because it's about how my "love making" or should I say "sex making" has changed through the years. First, I can't relate to you guys who complain about not getting your full hour, much less you studs who brag about not getting the knock and staying an hour and a half. In past few years of mongering, I doubt that I have taken as much as an hour more than a handful of times, and that's counting the self shower and waiting for the girl to get her stuff. Anyway, last month ms sent in Kelly. I rarely ask for a particular provider at Kison because MS Chanel knows me. (In fact, I "know" her too. Hehe) I remember some tepid reports on Kelly but decided to try to turn the tables in order not to run out of gas and last the whole hour. Dressed in her bikini, she is pretty L=7 (I'm a tough grader, no 10's in the AMPs yet IMHO), looks older than 30, about 5-5, maybe 120, fairly flat stomach no pooch, but soft, boobs are natural and about a handful when she's upright, not much of an ass. I told her I wanted to go first; had her lie on her front and I gave her a long, soft, erotic, fingertip and hand massage all over her back and ass. Got my fingers down between her legs, slightly brushed her asshole but she didn't like that, and tickled her vagina. Turned her over and did the same thing, including kissing her front side all over. She enjoyed the attention I gave to her boobs, nipples, belly button, underarms, legs, crotch, but didn't seem to want fiv. While playing with her clit, I was sitting so she could reach my cock and balls with a hand and played with them while I manually rubbed her clit. That really felt great. Gradually spread her legs and started flicking her clit with my tongue. I was only going to spend a short time there but she kept my head there, moaning and squirming and started to cum. After one orgasm I was about to stop and she started the moaning and squirming again, and this kept up over and over again. Finally, my face was so wet from her cum juice that I had to get up to wipe it, and she grabbed me around the neck and thrust her pussy at my dick and we went to town, fucking like crazy. Even though we were in mish, it seemed like I didn't have to do any work, minimal thrusting, she did all the work. She obviously does her Kegels because I could feel them vagina muscles contracting over and over again as she came. Now this was probably only a couple of minutes after we started to fuck and I could not hold out. Came with a blast! We finally separated and did the usual hot towel clean up routine. On my way out, look what we found on the floor: an unused condom. LOL. She was so turned on she forgot she had brought it in. Anyway, turns out when I checked my watch, hey, was there over an hour! What a fucking old fart stud. Looking back on this encounter, seems like actual fucking was only a few minutes, and she didn't do hardly anything to me, no blow job, no massage, no rim. But for some reason, I thought it was one of the best most sensuous experiences I'd had in an AMP. As Kelly said to me on the way out, "Today you made love to me. Now you my boyfriend. " LOL. I guess one way to last a whole hour for someone as old and out of shape as I am, don't fuck the whole time. Hehe. I enjoyed it just the same and return for a repeat.
Ok. Here goes report #1001. Cool, great report!
Hp (Ole guy too).
Too funny Mr, HM! I was thinking about cruising the K-Church scene myself. I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us started going to the "services". Would they allow beer in there? And yes, those occasional in the bar or in the bed K-girls who start talking religion. Had one want to pray with me right after we finished doing the deed. Told her 'nuff already, tired of hearing her calling out "Oh God, Oh God".
Ss.Yeah you got that right, once she's aroused and about to cum, she'll be screaming, Jesus Christ "I'm cumming" or "Icho Icho" in Japanese!
Once I used bang this KBG at her apartment on a Sunday just before she goes to church. Her friend came by to pick her up while she was being doggy pumped when she answered the elevator phone to ring her up. Kept on slamming that kim chi of hers when her friend rang the door bell until she came. Ha Ha. She acted rather pissed, but later actually said the deed made her excited, just the thought of being caught and getting away.
Yeah, after getting dressed and putting on that "innocent" look she went out with her friend to church. She wanted me to hide in the bathroom until she left. I think that church thing is just a front as allot of other things these KBG do in and out of the bar.
A few days ago, I mentioned the following advice about DATY in a different thread: "ask the woman how she likes it performed, and then follow her suggestions". I think that it might now be useful to expand upon that concept in relation to older mongers like me.
Realistically, I know that I can't effectively compete with young handsome guys in appearance, and that some providers (particularly younger ones) are going to find me physically unattractive. Of course, that can negatively affect the quality of a provider's service. However, there is an activity that can help to level the playing field and stimulate many providers into giving improved performance to an old guy: satisfying DATY.
Now some guys (especially young cocky ones) presume that they already know how women want DATY performed and don't bother to ask a woman for any suggestions or advice. However, in my many years of experience, I've found that different women can easily have different DATY preferences. For example, some like it faster, while others like it slower; some like it more vigorous, while others like it more gentle; some like more licking, while others like more sucking; some like a man to mainly focus on the clitoris, while others also like having additional areas stimulated, such as the lips and/or the inside; some like a man to use his hands to caress and tickle the legs or abdomen while performing DATY, but others may find that distracting. Yet many women may not spontaneously verbalize their preferences. Recently I was with a provider who did not want a finger in her vagina while receiving DATY, but remained completely silent about it until asked. (Perhaps she thought that because I was a paying customer, she should just let me do it my way.) After I removed my finger, her enjoyment of the DATY noticeably improved. By contrast, there are some ladies who want a finger (or even two) inside. So in my opinion, it's a good idea to ask for specifics about what a woman likes or dislikes when she's receiving DATY. Preparing a woman for sex with DATY that she genuinely enjoys will often result in a more enthusiastic and better performing provider, particularly if you have the disadvantage of being an older and less attractive man.
Comments about this topic from other mongers are welcome. However, if you disagree with me, I'll place you on ignore or try to have you banned. LOL, just joking! All comments, favorable or not, are welcome.
A few days ago, I mentioned the following advice about DATY in a different thread: "ask the woman how she likes it performed, and then follow her suggestions". I think that it might now be useful to expand upon that concept in relation to older mongers like me.
Realistically, I know that I can't effectively compete with young handsome guys in appearance, and that some providers (particularly younger ones) are going to find me physically unattractive. Of course, that can negatively affect the quality of a provider's service. However, there is an activity that can help to level the playing field and stimulate many providers into giving improved performance to an old guy: satisfying DATY.
Now some guys (especially young cocky ones) presume that they already know how women want DATY performed and don't bother to ask a woman for any suggestions or advice. However, in my many years of experience, I've found that different women can easily have different DATY preferences. For example, some like it faster, while others like it slower; some like it more vigorous, while others like it more gentle; some like more licking, while others like more sucking; some like a man to mainly focus on the clitoris, while others also like having additional areas stimulated, such as the lips and/or the inside; some like a man to use his hands to caress and tickle the legs or abdomen while performing DATY, but others may find that distracting. Yet many women may not spontaneously verbalize their preferences. Recently I was with a provider who did not want a finger in her vagina while receiving DATY, but remained completely silent about it until asked. (Perhaps she thought that because I was a paying customer, she should just let me do it my way.) After I removed my finger, her enjoyment of the DATY noticeably improved. By contrast, there are some ladies who want a finger (or even two) inside. So in my opinion, it's a good idea to ask for specifics about what a woman likes or dislikes when she's receiving DATY. Preparing a woman for sex with DATY that she genuinely enjoys will often result in a more enthusiastic and better performing provider, particularly if you have the disadvantage of being an older and less attractive man.
Comments about this topic from other mongers are welcome. However, if you disagree with me, I'll place you on ignore or try to have you banned. LOL, just joking! All comments, favorable or not, are welcome.As an old guy, I speak from years of mongering. Ask a woman what appeals to her. I have no way of knowing what pleases or offends a woman. Each woman is different. Since I am paying straight away I would like the session to be pleasurable for the both of us. If I assume, you know what I am doing.
In my mongering experiences, I've found two things to be fairly consistent (and I'm summarizing here, not speaking in absolutes): most providers enjoy daty if performed correctly, and most providers don't enjoy fiv because most mongers don't do it correctly. The only provider I've found who enjoyed fiv (while having daty performed on her) was Jay at Kison, and she wanted it done a very specific way. I usually don't bother asking a provider how she prefers daty. Instead I enjoy finding out as we go, altering my technique until I find the sweet spot. You'll know it when you find it.
A few days ago, I mentioned the following advice about DATY in a different thread: "ask the woman how she likes it performed, and then follow her suggestions". I think that it might now be useful to expand upon that concept in relation to older mongers like me.
Realistically, I know that I can't effectively compete with young handsome guys in appearance, and that some providers (particularly younger ones) are going to find me physically unattractive. Of course, that can negatively affect the quality of a provider's service. However, there is an activity that can help to level the playing field and stimulate many providers into giving improved performance to an old guy: satisfying DATY.
Now some guys (especially young cocky ones) presume that they already know how women want DATY performed and don't bother to ask a woman for any suggestions or advice. However, in my many years of experience, I've found that different women can easily have different DATY preferences. For example, some like it faster, while others like it slower; some like it more vigorous, while others like it more gentle; some like more licking, while others like more sucking; some like a man to mainly focus on the clitoris, while others also like having additional areas stimulated, such as the lips and/or the inside; some like a man to use his hands to caress and tickle the legs or abdomen while performing DATY, but others may find that distracting. Yet many women may not spontaneously verbalize their preferences. Recently I was with a provider who did not want a finger in her vagina while receiving DATY, but remained completely silent about it until asked. (Perhaps she thought that because I was a paying customer, she should just let me do it my way.) After I removed my finger, her enjoyment of the DATY noticeably improved. By contrast, there are some ladies who want a finger (or even two) inside. So in my opinion, it's a good idea to ask for specifics about what a woman likes or dislikes when she's receiving DATY. Preparing a woman for sex with DATY that she genuinely enjoys will often result in a more enthusiastic and better performing provider, particularly if you have the disadvantage of being an older and less attractive man.
Comments about this topic from other mongers are welcome. However, if you disagree with me, I'll place you on ignore or try to have you banned. LOL, just joking! All comments, favorable or not, are welcome.I agree (just so you won't have me banned!
Personally, I usually don't discuss much because it kills the mood for me when a girl asks too many questions, "too many" being relative. So, I just go off to work and get started like the 7 Dwarfs.
If I'm lucky, I get an interactive girl and I follow her vocal and physical cues and use them to guide what I do next and what I stop doing. I try to remember how she liked things. When the girl automatically gets her ass up on the bed first thing, ready to receive DATY and DATO on subsequent visits, it tells me she likes what I've been doing.
A few days ago, I mentioned the following advice about DATY in a different thread: "ask the woman how she likes it performed, and then follow her suggestions". I think that it might now be useful to expand upon that concept in relation to older mongers like me.
Realistically, I know that I can't effectively compete with young handsome guys in appearance, and that some providers (particularly younger ones) are going to find me physically unattractive. Of course, that can negatively affect the quality of a provider's service. However, there is an activity that can help to level the playing field and stimulate many providers into giving improved performance to an old guy: satisfying DATY.
Now some guys (especially young cocky ones) presume that they already know how women want DATY performed and don't bother to ask a woman for any suggestions or advice. However, in my many years of experience, I've found that different women can easily have different DATY preferences. For example, some like it faster, while others like it slower; some like it more vigorous, while others like it more gentle; some like more licking, while others like more sucking; some like a man to mainly focus on the clitoris, while others also like having additional areas stimulated, such as the lips and/or the inside; some like a man to use his hands to caress and tickle the legs or abdomen while performing DATY, but others may find that distracting. Yet many women may not spontaneously verbalize their preferences. Recently I was with a provider who did not want a finger in her vagina while receiving DATY, but remained completely silent about it until asked. (Perhaps she thought that because I was a paying customer, she should just let me do it my way.) After I removed my finger, her enjoyment of the DATY noticeably improved. By contrast, there are some ladies who want a finger (or even two) inside. So in my opinion, it's a good idea to ask for specifics about what a woman likes or dislikes when she's receiving DATY. Preparing a woman for sex with DATY that she genuinely enjoys will often result in a more enthusiastic and better performing provider, particularly if you have the disadvantage of being an older and less attractive man.
I think this is spot on.
Rico Suave808
01-02-16, 11:33
When I'm with a new girl, as soon as I go down on her, I always ask her how she likes it done. Every time I get the same answer "keep doing what you are doing now" so I just go with the flow and respond to her nonverbal cues which almost always results in a happy ending or should I say happy beginning.
In my mongering experiences, I've found two things to be fairly consistent (and I'm summarizing here, not speaking in absolutes): most providers enjoy daty if performed correctly, and most providers don't enjoy fiv because most mongers don't do it correctly. The only provider I've found who enjoyed fiv (while having daty performed on her) was Jay at Kison, and she wanted it done a very specific way. I usually don't bother asking a provider how she prefers daty. Instead I enjoy finding out as we go, altering my technique until I find the sweet spot. You'll know it when you find it.Most Providers don't want fiv because of finger nails.
I have an interest in the history of prostitution here in Hawaii. More specifically, I am interested in the history of rub and tug places (I. E. Good massage and HJ) in Hawaii back in the days before the internet and the on-line sex forums. The main stream media occasionally discusses the history of prostitution in Hawaii, but all of their reports involve FS sex in brothels or strip clubs. I am wondering whether the rug and tug places in Hawaii are a relatively new phenomenon. So here are some questions for the old time mongers:
1. Were rub and tug places common here in Hawaii back in the 20th century?
If they were, then.
2. where were they located?
3. what were the names of the women who worked there?
4. how much did they charge? (house fee and tip).
5. what was the quality of service?
6. did the providers strictly limit service to only massage and HJ?
Any other information about the history of rub and tug places in Hawaii will be greatly appreciated.
Darkman808
01-13-16, 18:47
When I'm with a new girl, as soon as I go down on her, I always ask her how she likes it done. Every time I get the same answer "keep doing what you are doing now" so I just go with the flow and respond to her nonverbal cues which almost always results in a happy ending or should I say happy beginning.I love DATY and will attempt FIV if it 'sounds' like the provider is wanting more. Not all do, many allow, but some will stop after awhile too. I have one provider I regularly see who gets into it all, and with multiple FIV. I've often slipped in a FIA and V and the girl positively explodes eventually. I asked her once about Greek and she actually said "no". But she quickly added, "But your finger is perfect enough. That's always okay!" I think that maybe if we tried it one night slowly, it might work, but she gets so wound up and physical, doing anything with her slowly doesn't seem likely. Who am I to complain?
I have an interest in the history of prostitution here in Hawaii. More specifically, I am interested in the history of rub and tug places (I. E. Good massage and HJ) in Hawaii back in the days before the internet and the on-line sex forums. The main stream media occasionally discusses the history of prostitution in Hawaii, but all of their reports involve FS sex in brothels or strip clubs. I am wondering whether the rug and tug places in Hawaii are a relatively new phenomenon. So here are some questions for the old time mongers:
1. Were rub and tug places common here in Hawaii back in the 20th century?
If they were, then.
2. where were they located?
3. what were the names of the women who worked there?
4. how much did they charge? (house fee and tip).
5. what was the quality of service?
6. did the providers strictly limit service to only massage and HJ?
Any other information about the history of rub and tug places in Hawaii will be greatly appreciated.From what I heard, it started during WW2 with the soldiers.
I have an interest in the history of prostitution here in Hawaii. More specifically, I am interested in the history of rub and tug places (I. E. Good massage and HJ) in Hawaii back in the days before the internet and the on-line sex forums. The main stream media occasionally discusses the history of prostitution in Hawaii, but all of their reports involve FS sex in brothels or strip clubs. I am wondering whether the rug and tug places in Hawaii are a relatively new phenomenon. So here are some questions for the old time mongers:
1. Were rub and tug places common here in Hawaii back in the 20th century?
If they were, then.
2. where were they located?
3. what were the names of the women who worked there?
4. how much did they charge? (house fee and tip).
5. what was the quality of service?
6. did the providers strictly limit service to only massage and HJ?
Any other information about the history of rub and tug places in Hawaii will be greatly appreciated.Saw something on the history channel a few years back about how the hawaii gov't controlled the "business" back during the war time. Since there were TONs of GI here. Did a google search and the show is for sale online. Had photos and videos of hotel street back in the day with lines of men waiting for their turn.
http://www.amazon.com/Sex-World-War-II-History/product-reviews/B00145F0XC
Honolulu Chas
08-22-17, 12:16
I think that church thing is just a front as allot of other things these KBG do in and out of the bar.I've always found this to be an interesting topic. Some of the wildest providers I've had were also regular and avid church-goers. This puzzled me for a long time, and I finally asked some of them about it. The responses were nearly the same, and my takeaway was as follows:
1-They are completely sincere about their beliefs. I realize there are a lot of ways to elaborate on this, but I'll just leave it at that; I don't think they are trying to fool people about their occupation.
2-The only thing stronger than their belief is their ability to compartmentalize Work is here, church is there.
3-I was using my concept of both these subjects in trying to work this out, and that was a mistake. While I don't have a grasp on their concepts of "the business" and church, all that matters is that it's different.
Just as an FYI, I've been seeing an older Mama free for years now. One of the best bed partners I've ever had, and a regular church-goer. She is very free in talking, and even joking, with her church friends and other MILF and GILF friends about what we do, and how much she enjoys it. Again, I don't trouble my little brain with the whys and wherefores. It's just the way it is, and I'm cool with that.
I know your original comment was just a quick off-the-cuff thing, but I felt the need to post this, as I'm sure the same thought has occurred to others. Hope you don't mind.
Chas.
NinjaLurker
08-24-17, 23:43
Howzit Ewa,
Back in the late 70's, used to go to this place on Pauahi St. Think was next to think was Wing's Tea or Coffee. Across from the elevator to the new underground parking lot.
Was called Furuya or Furo-ya. The later seems more appropriate, but we all remember it as the former. The best one was Summer. My friends would Jan. Ken Po to see who would get her first. Back then was. 25 total. No house fee. There was a password that you had to give before they would let you in.
All bbbjcip. Those were the says!
NL.
I have an interest in the history of prostitution here in Hawaii. More specifically, I am interested in the history of rub and tug places (I. E. Good massage and HJ) in Hawaii back in the days before the internet and the on-line sex forums. The main stream media occasionally discusses the history of prostitution in Hawaii, but all of their reports involve FS sex in brothels or strip clubs. I am wondering whether the rug and tug places in Hawaii are a relatively new phenomenon. So here are some questions for the old time mongers:
1. Were rub and tug places common here in Hawaii back in the 20th century?
If they were, then.
2. where were they located?
3. what were the names of the women who worked there?
4. how much did they charge? (house fee and tip).
5. what was the quality of service?
6. did the providers strictly limit service to only massage and HJ?
Any other information about the history of rub and tug places in Hawaii will be greatly appreciated.
Howzit Ewa,
Back in the late 70's, used to go to this place on Pauahi St. Think was next to think was Wing's Tea or Coffee. Across from the elevator to the new underground parking lot.
Was called Furuya or Furo-ya. The later seems more appropriate, but we all remember it as the former. The best one was Summer. My friends would Jan. Ken Po to see who would get her first. Back then was. 25 total. No house fee. There was a password that you had to give before they would let you in.
All bbbjcip. Those were the says!
NL.There was a place on Beretania Steet across where the Chinese Cultural Plaza is. That place was one of the hottest places downtown. Cost was $25.00 for a half hour. Another place on Bethel Street above a popular restaurant. There was York massage for $10.00 an hour an for $10.00 you could have a quickie. There was a Central something next door to the York building where the Honda dealership is now. A block Diamond from the stadium was another place named Dynasty. I know there was a place off Ward Avenue across where Ross's behind where VIP was. That's all I can remember for now. Damn, I've been doing this for a long time but I still love it.
There was a place on Beretania Steet across where the Chinese Cultural Plaza is. That place was one of the hottest places downtown. Cost was $25.00 for a half hour. Another place on Bethel Street above a popular restaurant. There was York massage for $10.00 an hour an for $10.00 you could have a quickie. There was a Central something next door to the York building where the Honda dealership is now. A block Diamond from the stadium was another place named Dynasty. I know there was a place off Ward Avenue across where Ross's behind where VIP was. That's all I can remember for now. Damn, I've been doing this for a long time but I still love it.Wow, you must be old like me to remember those places. The low grey building across from the Cultural Plaza housed a multi room brothel. The mammasan was a froggy voiced skinny old Chinese, I think, lady who sat in a "ticket booth" thing at the front entrance. Once I was early and she said that no girls were here yet but she offered a BJ for 1/2 price, but I couldn't tell anyone because she was married. I took the offer because I was young and horny and during the deed I managed to get my hand in her pants and went for a FIV and the next thing I knew she took off her pants and insisted that I pound her in several different positions. She went crazy and it was a like a GFE with someone 30+ years older. The next time I went back, I jokingly asked for her, and she angrily made like it never happened. I was young and stupid and didn't know when I had a good thing going.
BTW she used to be the mamasan at the building behind York.
Wow, you must be old like me to remember those places. The low grey building across from the Cultural Plaza housed a multi room brothel. The mammasan was a froggy voiced skinny old Chinese, I think, lady who sat in a "ticket booth" thing at the front entrance. Once I was early and she said that no girls were here yet but she offered a BJ for 1/2 price, but I couldn't tell anyone because she was married. I took the offer because I was young and horny and during the deed I managed to get my hand in her pants and went for a FIV and the next thing I knew she took off her pants and insisted that I pound her in several different positions. She went crazy and it was a like a GFE with someone 30+ years older. The next time I went back, I jokingly asked for her, and she angrily made like it never happened. I was young and stupid and didn't know when I had a good thing going.
BTW she used to be the mamasan at the building behind York.Me old too cause I remember her name, but not voing dime here. Thatw as our go to back in our youngin days after shoot pool, then go look for pu in sai. Too much fo say, no like get in trouble, esp. When 2 use to walk the streets after 12, and lets say they still got to finish their homework. Feelin old.
There's a common saying: "You can't teach an old dog new tricks".
However, in my case, you sometimes can. Here's an idea that's recently helped me, and may also help some other old mongers.
Time marches on, and even with the valuable assistance of Viagra or Levitra, my buddy "Little Red" was increasingly having difficulty fulfilling his mission. Little Red could become sufficiently erect with a provider's lubricated hand stimulation, but then would sometimes deflate during intercourse, which was quite disappointing. After witnessing that happen a few times, a provider suggested that I experiment with a "cock ring". There was almost nothing previously posted on the forum about using cock rings, and I had never used one before, but she told me that a few of her other old customers found them to be very useful.
After researching the subject, I purchased two of them, both inexpensive. They were both flexible, not the hard metal type. One was of the standard circular shape. The other was more interesting: a relatively thin piece of plastic, both ends of which fit through a small plastic control device, that made an adjustable loop around Little Red that could easily be tightened or loosened.
Trying each, I preferred the adjustable loop. After a provider made Little Red as erect as possible, I could quickly tighten the loop and be ready for action. So far, I've used that cock ring three times (twice for vaginal intercourse and once for Greek), and have been very pleased with the successful results. In addition to maintaining the erection, it increases the pleasurable sensations during intercourse. When ready to ejaculate, I just press the release button and loosen the loop.
However, various websites have warnings about not wearing a circulation-restricting cock ring for more than twenty minutes, which of course I've followed. Little Red hasn't suffered any adverse effects whatsoever.
Bottom line: For less than ten bucks, Little Red and I have a new lease on a happy sex life. In terms of value per dollar, the adjustable cock ring is one of the best items I've ever purchased.
I must have seen you play back then. Used to bring alot of joints even tho didn't do pot but if the chicks did was garands score. I used to envy the band members thinking was a matter of who with and not if. Am I right?Read. Those were the days, well nights, and early mornings. My friends did all the chemicals and ganja, I was more the JD Coke guy even in the Pre-graduation days. When I played there, did not drive home, stayed at my Unc's place (he had a 1/1 cottage in the back of their home deep in the sticks of the early days of Royal Summit (still under Dev.) so super quiet and no one around. Cannot say how many times hook up with local sweets, a few military hunnies (only to find out a few times later they married and fkn around on their hubs who are overseas). Our front babe was Bi, so sometimes they stay over so they outside in the living room on the nice shag rug, and I going boomboom in the bdrm. Was nutz back then, even boomboom a HS Teacher from Mililani, who was Ms AP Bio (that hapa Asian teach that you want to have too stay after class) in the day and one hell of a tap after our gig. Saw her years later by chance at an mtg. I was conducting for business and she recognized me. TIme was not good to her, but she still had that GILF T's and Ass. Those were the days.
Read. Those were the days.Used to give Oldee ride from Kapahulu to and from the KBs (his spot was Splash) back then. Of course, we when go Kalihi and wherever to meet other posters; back then we had small kine flash gang for meet at one designated KB, order one drink, and leave (left the KBGs confused and laughing).
Used to give Oldee ride from Kapahulu to and from the KBs (his spot was Splash) back then. Of course, we when go Kalihi and wherever to meet other posters; back then we had small kine flash gang for meet at one designated KB, order one drink, and leave (left the KBGs confused and laughing).Back in the day, there was a Vietnamese bar called club maxim where lobster king is today. My best time then was with these two young ones that worked there and I share their bedroom and bed for a couple of weeks. I don't have the energy now to take care of nymphos like that anymore. But they did give me some great memories that will last me a lifetime. The bar scene like me has aged quite a bit since then. But Yuna of happiness is still the greatest of all time for me.
Back in the day, there was a Vietnamese bar called club maxim where lobster king is today. But Yuna of happiness is still the greatest of all time for me.Your Yuna babe is highly recommended in that blog. Maxim's was possibly the first VB in the Kapiolani area. Had the VBG 'legends of the day' or GOATs there (Tammy, Lisa, Alida, etc.) and later tried to become one bar that relied on 'donations,' much like one church, non-profit and the like (by one lawyer).
Used to give Oldee ride from Kapahulu to and from the KBs (his spot was Splash) back then. Of course, we when go Kalihi and wherever to meet other posters; back then we had small kine flash gang for meet at one designated KB, order one drink, and leave (left the KBGs confused and laughing).Curious what ever happened to oldee? We used to debate quite frequently on this site then one day met up and turns out we got along just fine. Then he just disappeared. Hope he is in good health. When this site was down for a bit, another contributor we lost was H Mobius. He was a super reliable massage parlor commentator.
SS.
Your Yuna babe is highly recommended in that blog. Maxim's was possibly the first VB in the Kapiolani area. Had the VBG 'legends of the day' or GOATs there (Tammy, Lisa, Alida, etc.)I consider Yuna our present day legend and the GOAT for me. Like the Fox is for Warriorforlife, Yuna is all that for me. She has my highest recommendation. She is too professional in what she does and how she treats people to disappoint anyone (unless you are wanting big boobs).
I consider myself lucky to have met her and I have been with her time and again and never have I been disappointed with anything about her. She is much better than the majority of the bar girls out there now with her abilities to entertain me with interesting conversations / stories (and top notched service) and in my opinion her body is just about perfect. She is somebody I would hate to see leave for good, but that will probably happen someday.
FYI: Yuna would prefer that I don't talk about her and would like to keep a very low profile. But in my over forty years of experience, she is definitely the best one that I have ever been with. I can't wait until she returns.
TrueTemper
11-19-21, 17:17
Curious what ever happened to oldee? We used to debate quite frequently on this site then one day met up and turns out we got along just fine. Then he just disappeared. Hope he is in good health. When this site was down for a bit, another contributor we lost was H Mobius. He was a super reliable massage parlor commentator.
SS.Oldee doing OK. His place was Splash because he was a LVB over there. KBG latter moved to Green Tea. Just Kidding Grand Masters Don't want to be hit with the ruler. Shout Out John Ross are you married yet. I going back in my cave but will be lurking! Aloha.
Oldee doing OK. His place was Splash because he was a LVB over there. KBG latter moved to Green Tea. Just Kidding Grand Masters Don't want to be hit with the ruler. Shout Out John Ross are you married yet. I going back in my cave but will be lurking! Aloha.Was noticing some of the veteran and frequent KB posters getting frustrated for whatever reason (s) from a while ago; used to have one solid 5-6 guys gather at Kapiolani and Kalihi KBs to check out the action and try make anonymous. Before, the KBs was just like one meeting place for friendly fun and relaxation; nowadays no more good gathering places as attitudes in the KBs have changed, veteran guys getting medical problems, getting older and going broke, IMO. Better days ahead (I hope). I heard Di's Karaoke is the hangout now for the veterans but don't know for sure.
CheapCharlie
11-19-21, 18:32
Curious what ever happened to oldee? We used to debate quite frequently on this site then one day met up and turns out we got along just fine. Then he just disappeared. Hope he is in good health. When this site was down for a bit, another contributor we lost was H Mobius. He was a super reliable massage parlor commentator.
SS.Hope both Oldee and HMOBIUS doing well. I miss the PMs with HM. What happened to him?
Hope both Oldee and HMOBIUS doing well. I miss the PMs with HM. What happened to him?The last time H Mobius posted anything here was in Apr 2018, about the time this forum went down for a while. The last time I was in contact with him was Jul 2020. He was doing OK and said he hadn't been mongering much. I wouldn't be surprised if he monitors this forum from time to time. Have you tried sending him a PM?
The last time H Mobius posted anything here was in Apr 2018, about the time this forum went down for a while. The last time I was in contact with him was Jul 2020. He was doing OK and said he hadn't been mongering much. I wouldn't be surprised if he monitors this forum from time to time. Have you tried sending him a PM?I'm getting up there in age. Thinking about what retirement will be like. I hope with the combo of SS benefits, 401 K, etc. I can still afford. We'll see. Just hoping I'll have the kala to afford some young lady to touch my ding ding.
I'm getting up there in age. Thinking about what retirement will be like. I hope with the combo of SS benefits, 401 K, etc. I can still afford. We'll see. Just hoping I'll have the kala to afford some young lady to touch my ding ding.I thought about that too a few years ago just before I retired from my work. Did the 3+ or so years of go Vegas more to play poker and hit the crap table and visit friends and ohana. Of course, also mongered where I traveled if it was worth it or go out with that freebies because they looking for pu in sai also. Get esp in Vegas if you stay at the hotels known for business travelers or where the flight crew stays. Realized later that I still wanted to work to keep busy (PT) when not visiting ohana in my travels and did some side work which became good $$$ once was setup. Granted way older now and really got choosy, so seeing mostly a few I feel comfortable with. Once in a while catch one unicorn but more because of my work with the hospitality / travel industry. Why I went more UC and IF I do see an Indie or AMP girl. I know a friend (working bud) and I have been lucky these past few months, granted we both get old man health problems so got to work out more, eat healthily, and I do a lot of smoothies which is good for the kino, but also when you CIM, and she goes Whoa, taste like Pineapple or Watermelon or Juice (green), that goes good bc if you get to go boomboom again, she will suck you off hard to CIM. YMMV, but that is from my last couple of experiences these last few months (Visitors). Show um a good time, our beautiful island, talk story about the place you take them, yea we go beach and I take them snorkeling or IF they can handle free dive it (the amateur kind not anything nutz), they get their ocean therapy to sunbathe most times because they want color, go eat where the locals eat, it's 50/50 what base you get too like anything else BUT good fun all the time. Learn a lot, sometimes we no even get that far before getting boomboom. From that Chinese Dr (SF) to the 3 college and. Jersey girls (2 of um was LEZ and into each other, but the other was all Greenlight and thought she was trying to suck my soul out of me / fkd like a P.S.) to the Mom from TX here with her daughter that after we went to dinner daughter went with her friends and mom (5-1, Flip / Haole born and raised in TX. , but with that big ass and fake Cs) showed me her appreciation with multiples she reminded me of that one on Real Housewives of Salt Lake. It also helped because she wanted to start investing in Crypto and NFTs to add to her reg. Trading accts. I did feel weird later when I was having lunch or Dinn with her and her daughter and I think her daughter knew I was busting her mom every which way and mom is a screamer. It's all good, local style, live, share, keep active body mind and soul, never know when your time is up.
Is this the old guy check in spot?
You guys are all legendary! Glad to see you are doing well.
Back to my monthly lurking.
Is this the old guy check in spot?
You guys are all legendary! Glad to see you are doing well.
Back to my monthly lurking.It will be for us. Maybe classify (like we do with sports we play for the older braddahs), Masters (48-54), Senior Masters (55-61), Golden Masters (62-69), and Super Masters (70+), well for us playing in National Opens, how they classify us.
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