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Cincinnati compared to what is happening in Louisville Escort and Massage threads can be depressing.Agreed. Been doing some research on central Fl. Seems to be the Mecca in comparison and puts both to shame.
RufusFirefly
02-14-24, 06:18
I went to a gender reveal party recently. Was I embarrassed.
I was the only one there with no cloths.
I went to a gender reveal party recently. Was I embarrassed.
I was the only one there with no cloths.Gender reveal parties are more exciting in Thailand.
My iphone was stolen. It is not showing up on find my iphone. I requested erase when online. Is there any way they can get in it without it being erased? Need to know.
My iphone was stolen. It is not showing up on find my iphone. I requested erase when online. Is there any way they can get in it without it being erased? Need to know.If you had ICloud, then all your backup (photos, contacts, apps, etc) should be there. So all you have to do is but a new phone and connect with the same apple account as you had before. New phone will be exactly same as your new phone.
Hillbilly Bob
02-23-24, 09:13
Agreed. Been doing some research on central Fl. Seems to be the Mecca in comparison and puts both to shame.Florida is hands down above anything Cincy has. Been down here since January. The AMPs in Orlando a Tampa is all FS. Young girls interested in pleasing you to get you to repeat. One in Palm Harbor near Clearwater is outstanding. Sorry to say I will be heading back north soon. I will miss all the attention I get down here.
Have to be back for Reds opening day.
MarblesKyle
02-23-24, 14:52
Florida is hands down above anything Cincy has. Been down here since January. The AMPs in Orlando a Tampa is all FS. Young girls interested in pleasing you to get you to repeat. One in Palm Harbor near Clearwater is outstanding. Sorry to say I will be heading back north soon. I will miss all the attention I get down here.
Have to be back for Reds opening day.While I have yet to make it to Louisville, I have hit AMPs in Columbus, Lexington area, Los Angeles, Orlando, Tampa Bay area, Phoenix and Las Vegas. All of these places except maybe Columbus and Lexington are lightyears ahead of Cincinnati. Orlando and Tampa certainly do not disappoint. Vegas is what you would expect, high turnover so you have to do research before you repeat at any places you haven't been to very recently. USASG and the search function are a must if you are AMP hopping in LV.
Now, the place that blew me out of the water was Phoenix. I travel there every few years and I've never once thought to visit an AMP. I gave it a shot last time I was out there and I was amazed. I visited two places, and while I can't remember names I could definitely point them out on a map. One experience was very good, the other was among the best I've ever had across the board. Even better than any traditional mongering experience outside of an AMP. I went in right before they closed on a Sunday night and drew an absolutely gorgeous girl. The same routine happened to me that I've experienced at many of these full service AMPs where another girl walks into the shower room while the first girl is blowing me and gets down on her knees and asks if I want two. I opted for it and got an amazing BJ from two smoking Asian girls before getting to hammer both of them any way I wanted. One wouldn't let me go to Greece but the other did. I finished in Greece, watching my travel companion DATY on the other while she looked up at me pinching her own nipples. Absolue bucket list experience for me at the standard FS AMP rate. I didn't have to request anything or give any direction. It all happened organically. To have an experience anywhere close to this with someone off Tryst I probably would have paid two grand. Here, I paid under four bills including the house fee with no verification checks after walking into a strip mall at 9:40 pm. Absolutely unbelievable experience in 2023, I thought my monger resumé peaked pre-covid. I was wrong, you've just got to hop on an airplane. I hope this establishment is still there when I make it back.
While I love Florida, this topped anything I've gotten there. YMMV but I advise all mongers to not sleep on the PHX!
My iphone was stolen. It is not showing up on find my iphone. I requested erase when online. Is there any way they can get in it without it being erased? Need to know.
If you had ICloud, then all your backup (photos, contacts, apps, etc) should be there. So all you have to do is but a new phone and connect with the same apple account as you had before. New phone will be exactly same as your new phone.I believe the original question wasn't getting the photos / files back. It was about making sure whoever stole the phone doesn't get access to the contents of the phone.
I believe the original question wasn't getting the photos / files back. It was about making sure whoever stole the phone doesn't get access to the contents of the phone.I see. In that case you're not going to get or find who took it.
But no one else will able to access your details / data unless they know your password / pin.
So don't worry about data leakage.
IdleHands1
03-03-24, 09:26
I will never entertain a "provider" if there ad says any of the following:
Throat Goat.
Bareback / Cream Pie.
Deposit Required.
Drivers License.
Fire Pussy / Head.
Car Fun.
Top Rated.
Anime or Gamer.
One last tip. Don't smoke in the shower.
HighLifeMan
03-11-24, 18:07
My Fellow Mongers.
I speak to you Today this day as a sad, depressed, angry man. As some of you may not know or care, I took some brief time to reflect and re-energize, while devoting a little time for going ons, current topics, as well as security briefings. But now I am back.
I must ask one thing though, what the fuck is still going on?
Was my self imposed exile or pleas to stop the greedflation and band together and starve the market in vain?
I absolutely will not use EB as it's just a conduit for Sewer Wretches. The first few photos my fellow Mongers is just a sampling of STG. STG somehow now has even worse talent than EB, and Sumo may be just an aggregate but still. If it's not 900 Asian hotel ads, it's a mix of nasty and utter abysmal talent that have better phones and less emojis aka retard speak than EB.
Tryst is completely out of control on price. In the one pic you'll see an average price of $500-800?
The upper and lower red circled working girls should be no more than $200-250 and the blonde the middle red circled price, even though she looks in very good shape and pornstar-ish with bolt-ons, no more than $400. I ain't adjusting for inflation or higher wages now. Why in the fuck are you guys or not telling other dudes to stop paying these fucking prices. I mean think about it. Where in the figgity fuck can these girls (even with today's higher wages / salaries) make that per hour or remotely close even at my "suggested rate"?
NOWHERE.
Hotel rooms haven't gotten that expensive. Gas isn't that bad. Groceries, MEH. 90% won't even do out all anymore and if they do they have the nerve to charge more. Why? They're not putting out $100 a day hotel room plus gas wherever they go as well. They're out some gas which is far cheaper. Plus as Mongers, Outcall is far superior. One monger spoke about hygiene. You've seen the reports, if a girl has a girl has a hotel room, the majority will not hesitate to stack appointments. Meaning pole after immediate pole in her hole. Jackhammers at construction sites are jealous. That's forgiving her hand and mouth. I like to think with outcall, if she's done with me, she's got about an hour before she gets to you. Little hand sanitizer, stop at Speedway and pee and now her snootch got a little rest before you got in there. As Monger, you get the room if you can.
These broads can easily make thousands a day with little effort.
Fuck that and fuck this market, still.
That's why today I say this and we all stand steadfast:
MAKE ASS GREAT AGAIN.
My Fellow Mongers.
I speak to you Today this day as a sad, depressed, angry man. As some of you may not know or care, I took some brief time to reflect and re-energize, while devoting a little time for going ons, current topics, as well as security briefings. But now I am back.
I must ask one thing though, WHAT THE FUCK IS STILL GOING ON?
Was my self imposed exile or pleas to stop the greedflation and band together and starve the market in vain?
I absolutely will not use EB as it's just a conduit for Sewer Wretches. The first few photos my fellow Mongers is just a sampling of STG. STG somehow now has even worse talent than EB, and Sumo may be just an aggregate but still. If it's not 900 Asian hotel ads, it's a mix of nasty and utter abysmal talent that have better phones and less emojis aka retard speak than EB.
Tryst is completely out of control on price. In the one pic you'll see an average price of $500-800?
The upper and lower red circled working girls should be no more than $200-250 and the blonde the middle red circled price, even though she looks in very good shape and pornstar-ish with bolt-ons, no more than $400. I ain't adjusting for inflation or higher wages now. Why in the fuck are you guys or not telling other dudes to stop paying these fucking prices. I mean think about it. Where in the figgity fuck can these girls (even with today's higher wages / salaries) make that per hour or remotely close even at my "suggested rate"?
NOWHERE.
Hotel rooms haven't gotten that expensive. Gas isn't that bad. Groceries, MEH. 90% won't even do out all anymore and if they do they have the nerve to charge more. Why? They're not putting out $100 a day hotel room plus gas wherever they go as well. They're out some gas which is far cheaper. Plus as Mongers, Outcall is far superior. One monger spoke about hygiene. You've seen the reports, if a girl has a girl has a hotel room, the majority will not hesitate to stack appointments. Meaning pole after immediate pole in her hole. Jackhammers at construction sites are jealous. That's forgiving her hand and mouth. I like to think with outcall, if she's done with me, she's got about an hour before she gets to you. Little hand sanitizer, stop at Speedway and pee and now her snootch got a little rest before you got in there. As Monger, you get the room if you can.
These broads can easily make thousands a day with little effort.
Fuck that and fuck this market, still.
That's why today I say this and we all stand steadfast:
Make escorting great again.Now LOL I did like your state of the union. But this is so so true all the way down to the pictures. These chicks and what they used to be. I can understand they can't do it for free but man what they trying to charge or they are charging is messed up. I rather stay home get some popcorn and watch the walking dead much more cheaper. Now I know there is some out there that not bad but that is really low on the numbers. Anyway everyone have a good on. Be safe out there.
SnarkDog54
03-11-24, 18:33
You're dead-on, bud! I wish Ariel was still around!
My Fellow Mongers.
I speak to you Today this day as a sad, depressed, angry man. As some of you may not know or care, I took some brief time to reflect and re-energize, while devoting a little time for going ons, current topics, as well as security briefings. But now I am back.
I must ask one thing though, what the fuck is still going on?
Was my self imposed exile or pleas to stop the greedflation and band together and starve the market in vain?
I absolutely will not use EB as it's just a conduit for Sewer Wretches. The first few photos my fellow Mongers is just a sampling of STG. STG somehow now has even worse talent than EB, and Sumo may be just an aggregate but still. If it's not 900 Asian hotel ads, it's a mix of nasty and utter abysmal talent that have better phones and less emojis aka retard speak than EB.
Tryst is completely out of control on price. In the one pic you'll see an average price of $500-800?
The upper and lower red circled working girls should be no more than $200-250 and the blonde the middle red circled price, even though she looks in very good shape and pornstar-ish with bolt-ons, no more than $400. I ain't adjusting for inflation or higher wages now. Why in the fuck are you guys or not telling other dudes to stop paying these fucking prices. I mean think about it. Where in the figgity fuck can these girls (even with today's higher wages / salaries) make that per hour or remotely close even at my "suggested rate"?
NOWHERE.
Hotel rooms haven't gotten that expensive. Gas isn't that bad. Groceries, MEH. 90% won't even do out all anymore and if they do they have the nerve to charge more. Why? They're not putting out $100 a day hotel room plus gas wherever they go as well. They're out some gas which is far cheaper. Plus as Mongers, Outcall is far superior. One monger spoke about hygiene. You've seen the reports, if a girl has a girl has a hotel room, the majority will not hesitate to stack appointments. Meaning pole after immediate pole in her hole. Jackhammers at construction sites are jealous. That's forgiving her hand and mouth. I like to think with outcall, if she's done with me, she's got about an hour before she gets to you. Little hand sanitizer, stop at Speedway and pee and now her snootch got a little rest before you got in there. As Monger, you get the room if you can.
These broads can easily make thousands a day with little effort.
Fuck that and fuck this market, still.
That's why today I say this and we all stand steadfast:
MAKE ASS GREAT AGAIN.
My Fellow Mongers.
I speak to you Today this day as a sad, depressed, angry man. As some of you may not know or care, I took some brief time to reflect and re-energize, while devoting a little time for going ons, current topics, as well as security briefings. But now I am back.
I must ask one thing though, WHAT THE FUCK IS STILL GOING ON?
Was my self imposed exile or pleas to stop the greedflation and band together and starve the market in vain?
I absolutely will not use EB as it's just a conduit for Sewer Wretches. The first few photos my fellow Mongers is just a sampling of STG. STG somehow now has even worse talent than EB, and Sumo may be just an aggregate but still. If it's not 900 Asian hotel ads, it's a mix of nasty and utter abysmal talent that have better phones and less emojis aka retard speak than EB.
Tryst is completely out of control on price. In the one pic you'll see an average price of $500-800?
The upper and lower red circled working girls should be no more than $200-250 and the blonde the middle red circled price, even though she looks in very good shape and pornstar-ish with bolt-ons, no more than $400. I ain't adjusting for inflation or higher wages now. Why in the fuck are you guys or not telling other dudes to stop paying these fucking prices. I mean think about it. Where in the figgity fuck can these girls (even with today's higher wages / salaries) make that per hour or remotely close even at my "suggested rate"?
NOWHERE.
Hotel rooms haven't gotten that expensive. Gas isn't that bad. Groceries, MEH. 90% won't even do out all anymore and if they do they have the nerve to charge more. Why? They're not putting out $100 a day hotel room plus gas wherever they go as well. They're out some gas which is far cheaper. Plus as Mongers, Outcall is far superior. One monger spoke about hygiene. You've seen the reports, if a girl has a girl has a hotel room, the majority will not hesitate to stack appointments. Meaning pole after immediate pole in her hole. Jackhammers at construction sites are jealous. That's forgiving her hand and mouth. I like to think with outcall, if she's done with me, she's got about an hour before she gets to you. Little hand sanitizer, stop at Speedway and pee and now her snootch got a little rest before you got in there. As Monger, you get the room if you can.
These broads can easily make thousands a day with little effort.
Fuck that and fuck this market, still.
That's why today I say this and we all stand steadfast:
Make escorting great again.
Todd Cincy
03-11-24, 19:42
We don't control the supply, gentlemen. But we each get to cast one vote on the demand side of the equation.
I am voting with my wallet. I haven't given any of these girls my money since last summer. I don't plan to do so until market conditions improve dramatically.
I'm also in my 50's, and I've had a *lot* of hot girls over the years. (I took full advantage of the 2008 to 2018 boom decade.) So I can live on memories for a while longer. I understand that for the 35-year-old young hobbyist, that may be easier said than done.
So I'm not here to shame anyone who feels the need to participate. But I will say this: the current market is upside down, and the worst I've seen in 20 years. There is nowhere to go but up.
If you *must* participate in the market under these conditions, participate as little as possible. Spend some of that disposable income in other ways! Then come back when things get better, as they inevitably will.
My Fellow Mongers.
I speak to you Today this day as a sad, depressed, angry man. As some of you may not know or care, I took some brief time to reflect and re-energize, while devoting a little time for going ons, current topics, as well as security briefings. But now I am back.
I must ask one thing though, what the fuck is still going on?
Was my self imposed exile or pleas to stop the greedflation and band together and starve the market in vain?
I absolutely will not use EB as it's just a conduit for Sewer Wretches. The first few photos my fellow Mongers is just a sampling of STG. STG somehow now has even worse talent than EB, and Sumo may be just an aggregate but still. If it's not 900 Asian hotel ads, it's a mix of nasty and utter abysmal talent that have better phones and less emojis aka retard speak than EB.
Tryst is completely out of control on price. In the one pic you'll see an average price of $500-800?
The upper and lower red circled working girls should be no more than $200-250 and the blonde the middle red circled price, even though she looks in very good shape and pornstar-ish with bolt-ons, no more than $400. I ain't adjusting for inflation or higher wages now. Why in the fuck are you guys or not telling other dudes to stop paying these fucking prices. I mean think about it. Where in the figgity fuck can these girls (even with today's higher wages / salaries) make that per hour or remotely close even at my "suggested rate"?
NOWHERE.
Hotel rooms haven't gotten that expensive. Gas isn't that bad. Groceries, MEH. 90% won't even do out all anymore and if they do they have the nerve to charge more. Why? They're not putting out $100 a day hotel room plus gas wherever they go as well. They're out some gas which is far cheaper. Plus as Mongers, Outcall is far superior. One monger spoke about hygiene. You've seen the reports, if a girl has a girl has a hotel room, the majority will not hesitate to stack appointments. Meaning pole after immediate pole in her hole. Jackhammers at construction sites are jealous. That's forgiving her hand and mouth. I like to think with outcall, if she's done with me, she's got about an hour before she gets to you. Little hand sanitizer, stop at Speedway and pee and now her snootch got a little rest before you got in there. As Monger, you get the room if you can.
These broads can easily make thousands a day with little effort.
Fuck that and fuck this market, still.
That's why today I say this and we all stand steadfast:
MAKE ASS GREAT AGAIN.
My Fellow Mongers.
I speak to you Today this day as a sad, depressed, angry man. As some of you may not know or care, I took some brief time to reflect and re-energize, while devoting a little time for going ons, current topics, as well as security briefings. But now I am back.
I must ask one thing though, WHAT THE FUCK IS STILL GOING ON?
Was my self imposed exile or pleas to stop the greedflation and band together and starve the market in vain?
I absolutely will not use EB as it's just a conduit for Sewer Wretches. The first few photos my fellow Mongers is just a sampling of STG. STG somehow now has even worse talent than EB, and Sumo may be just an aggregate but still. If it's not 900 Asian hotel ads, it's a mix of nasty and utter abysmal talent that have better phones and less emojis aka retard speak than EB.
Tryst is completely out of control on price. In the one pic you'll see an average price of $500-800?
The upper and lower red circled working girls should be no more than $200-250 and the blonde the middle red circled price, even though she looks in very good shape and pornstar-ish with bolt-ons, no more than $400. I ain't adjusting for inflation or higher wages now. Why in the fuck are you guys or not telling other dudes to stop paying these fucking prices. I mean think about it. Where in the figgity fuck can these girls (even with today's higher wages / salaries) make that per hour or remotely close even at my "suggested rate"?
NOWHERE.
Hotel rooms haven't gotten that expensive. Gas isn't that bad. Groceries, MEH. 90% won't even do out all anymore and if they do they have the nerve to charge more. Why? They're not putting out $100 a day hotel room plus gas wherever they go as well. They're out some gas which is far cheaper. Plus as Mongers, Outcall is far superior. One monger spoke about hygiene. You've seen the reports, if a girl has a girl has a hotel room, the majority will not hesitate to stack appointments. Meaning pole after immediate pole in her hole. Jackhammers at construction sites are jealous. That's forgiving her hand and mouth. I like to think with outcall, if she's done with me, she's got about an hour before she gets to you. Little hand sanitizer, stop at Speedway and pee and now her snootch got a little rest before you got in there. As Monger, you get the room if you can.
These broads can easily make thousands a day with little effort.
Fuck that and fuck this market, still.
That's why today I say this and we all stand steadfast:
Make escorting great again.
Could not of said it better. Smokey, you get my vote. I'm a seasoned monger from the south side of Dayton. The situation is so bad up here, I venture out of Dayton to Cincy, Springfield, and even to Lima and Columbus to sample ladies that are reasonably priced and offer the services that I am interested in. I will not pay more than $200 for pussy today. My "go to" girl today has a safe incall, offers everything I want, is pretty, has a nice body and is not a clock watcher. I will see her until she disappears, as they all do. I drive 55 miles round trip to see her and she is worth every mile. And she is well under $200 per visit. And no, I'm not handing out her number. Dayton has nothing but old, used up meth heads, fat women and scammers on StG's. You have to go the SB route to get something decent and in most cases, you are going to pay dearly for it.
I'm in my upper sixties, so I will be leaving this hobby soon as my equipment is starting to fail me. Until I do, I'm not paying up! Be safe out there.
Smokey Gringo
03-12-24, 09:04
Feast your eyes (then immediately bleach them) on this that didn't make my SOTU address fellas because the upload failed. If you find her ad, they actually get worse. She should be in the lesbian section but she's not. She's "bi" and just swinging for the fences.
Puuuke.
UOnlyLiveOnce
03-12-24, 11:10
Could not of said it better. Smokey, you get my vote. I'm a seasoned monger from the south side of Dayton. The situation is so bad up here, I venture out of Dayton to Cincy, Springfield, and even to Lima and Columbus to sample ladies that are reasonably priced and offer the services that I am interested in. I will not pay more than $200 for pussy today. My "go to" girl today has a safe incall, offers everything I want, is pretty, has a nice body and is not a clock watcher. I will see her until she disappears, as they all do. I drive 55 miles round trip to see her and she is worth every mile. And she is well under $200 per visit. And no, I'm not handing out her number. Dayton has nothing but old, used up meth heads, fat women and scammers on StG's. You have to go the SB route to get something decent and in most cases, you are going to pay dearly for it.
I'm in my upper sixties, so I will be leaving this hobby soon as my equipment is starting to fail me. Until I do, I'm not paying up! Be safe out there.Couldn't have said it better than Smokey myself. Hey Potus2020, who are some of the good ones you see in Columbus? I can easily find excuses to be in Columbus and sample the goodies while I'm up there.
"There is only ONE PARTY that does this shit and it's my old party the one I left when Trump took over. The religious right has turned the party into something like they have in middle eastern societies, and they won't be happy until women have no rights. ".
II is this attitude that has us fucked right now. You are bitching about a president who was accused of grabbing women by the pussies! The fact is if you are white or Asian, the left hates you. This has nothing to do with religion, or politics, and it has everything to do with a police department that doesn't have anything better to do, and residents who also don't have anything better to do.
Stop with the anti-Trump bullshit, you leftist freak. You were NEVER with the right, don't try to tell us you were. I am so sick of these assholes saying they left the conservatives because of. Bullshit!
Smokey Gringo
03-21-24, 21:45
"There is only ONE PARTY that does this shit and it's my old party the one I left when Trump took over. The religious right has turned the party into something like they have in middle eastern societies, and they won't be happy until women have no rights. ".
II is this attitude that has us fucked right now. You are bitching about a president who was accused of grabbing women by the pussies! The fact is if you are white or Asian, the left hates you. This has nothing to do with religion, or politics, and it has everything to do with a police department that doesn't have anything better to do, and residents who also don't have anything better to do.
Stop with the anti-Trump bullshit, you leftist freak. You were NEVER with the right, don't try to tell us you were. I am so sick of these assholes saying they left the conservatives because of. Bullshit!Fuck Trump. He's a lying nepo baby blow hard reality TV Star and failed business man who after some judicious losses has shown he's not a Billionaire and he's got about 4 days before they start seizing assets. You have people in that party actually okay with him being a Dictator. I've never seen such treasonous and anti-American behavior / speeches from BOTH him and his cult under the veil oF Patriotism. Tried and true Independent BTW. I'm an American Voter. I'll vote who I think is best. And your rant is unhinged.
I'm guessing it got moved from "Massages". But the left hate whites and Asians? WTF? Okay. I mean I hate myself and I'm white and I'll give you the Asians. But if there is anything completely clear, Republicans and Conservatives can't stand Blacks, Latinos, Middle Easterners (Asians was a draw and hating yourself don't count. That's 3-1.
Let me give you some facts:
-Every state requiring uploads of your I'd for porn are majority RED STATES.
-DRUMP signed the FOSTA act, which was a dumb shit thing.
-Every state with restrictive abortion laws and gender bs is a Red State.
-And the right is absolutely being taken over by the Christian Nationalists. The Speaker is an unabashed one.
- Looking at that, the party of small government and "Don't tread on me" sure wants to govern and intrude A LOT.
Now back to the massage snitching. It isn't political at all. And it was absurd that you'd comment something like that and likely why it ended up here.
What you have if my cop buddies are right is majority housewives / wives who are suspicious or know their husband is going there and calling in and or nosey ass neighbors no matter their politics. Or business's next to them snitch. Your business is slow but the parking lot is full? I've also been in there where dudes aren't fucking discreet at all either. Talking loud, etc. Before May got busted on the Westside while I was getting massaged some fucking dickbag called twice and asked if they do "happy endings". It wasn't a prank. Doods are just fucking stupid.
"There is only ONE PARTY that does this shit and it's my old party the one I left when Trump took over. The religious right has turned the party into something like they have in middle eastern societies, and they won't be happy until women have no rights. ".
II is this attitude that has us fucked right now. You are bitching about a president who was accused of grabbing women by the pussies! The fact is if you are white or Asian, the left hates you. This has nothing to do with religion, or politics, and it has everything to do with a police department that doesn't have anything better to do, and residents who also don't have anything better to do.
Stop with the anti-Trump bullshit, you leftist freak. You were NEVER with the right, don't try to tell us you were. I am so sick of these assholes saying they left the conservatives because of. Bullshit!You folks swinging off tRumps n*ts are so wacked out you'd hang Ronald Reagan in effigy for being a leftist "rino". You hate our allies in Europe while kissing up to Putin and Kim Jung Un. Each and every one of you hate the constitution and the founding principles our country was founded on all while claiming to be Patriots. If the founding Fathers were alive today they'd tar and feather the entire lot of you if not outright hang your asses. And FYI you fascist bootlicker, most of what you consider to be "libs" are WHITE. And most of what goes for a lib these days are yesterdays USA loving Republicans. We're bitching about a FORMER president that has zero moral fortitude and commits all 7 deadly sins on a regular basis that is unworthy of running a sewer plant much less representing the greatest country on earth. I read posts like yours and it makes me realize the grand 'ol USA is swirling in the bowl, never in my life did I ever think there would be this much support for a horrible human being. Unbelievable.
You folks swinging off tRumps n*ts are so wacked out you'd hang Ronald Reagan in effigy for being a leftist "rino". You hate our allies in Europe while kissing up to Putin and Kim Jung Un. Each and every one of you hate the constitution and the founding principles our country was founded on all while claiming to be Patriots. If the founding Fathers were alive today they'd tar and feather the entire lot of you if not outright hang your asses. And FYI you fascist bootlicker, most of what you consider to be "libs" are WHITE. And most of what goes for a lib these days are yesterdays USA loving Republicans. We're bitching about a FORMER president that has zero moral fortitude and commits all 7 deadly sins on a regular basis that is unworthy of running a sewer plant much less representing the greatest country on earth. I read posts like yours and it makes me realize the grand 'ol USA is swirling in the bowl, never in my life did I ever think there would be this much support for a horrible human being. Unbelievable.I forgot you elected the asshat in the White House now, to save us. The most corrupt person in the history of the country. And you dictating what moral fortitude is makes me laugh out loud. Thank god that FORMER president will be the next president. He might be able to save us. This country is swirling round the bowl because of your pathetic president's policies. But thank GOODNESS for the adults being back in the room!
Member #6847
03-22-24, 20:38
IThe most corrupt person in the history of the country.That's just ahistorical. But I get it: You weren't a star pupil.
I doubt if anyone did. Girl can get an attitude real quick. I text her an ask her location see said Sharonville an 500.
I told her Sharonville not a good area it's a no fly zone for a lot of us. She want to know why. I explained the LEO.
Thing to her she informed me that everywhere had cop. I try to tell her they are setting a watching that area. Then I explained.
That that wasn't a $500 area. That's when she went off on me telling me she was paying 200 a night for her room an.
Said I was a creepy old man. Tried to tell her I was old just Creepy. Told her it's been posted on the board many times about that area.
Girl can get nasty in a hurry.
HER.
Nobody likes a hobbyist. You guys are weird as fuck and ask for way too much like to go home to your wife bro stop running around trying to give people a bad name because they don't know something or you think that you're better than me cause you're a man calm down I think about everything that you're saying somebody like you're acting like I'm supposed to know everything in the fucking world. . Get your life together. Good luck with your little panel on the board. I don't care.That's the great thing about this page and this community. You guys saved me some time! Thank you!
WanderingAbout
03-28-24, 18:41
If you do either of these or both.
Let us know if you survive.
https://tryst.link/escort/veronicajasmine
https://tryst.link/escort/brooke-diesel
RufusFirefly
03-29-24, 05:47
If you do either of these or both.
Let us know if you survive.
https://tryst.link/escort/veronicajasmine
https://tryst.link/escort/brooke-dieselI will start out by saying I would visit the first one if it was free. The second one would have to pay me.
I do not like ladies that are more masculine than I am. I cannot believe mongers pay those rates for ladies like these two.
Makes the rate I pay the semi UTR I have been seeing seem like a deal and she is about a third of the size.
I guess we pay per pound now days.
You folks swinging off tRumps n*ts are so wacked out you'd hang Ronald Reagan in effigy for being a leftist "rino". You hate our allies in Europe while kissing up to Putin and Kim Jung Un. Each and every one of you hate the constitution and the founding principles our country was founded on all while claiming to be Patriots. If the founding Fathers were alive today they'd tar and feather the entire lot of you if not outright hang your asses. And FYI you fascist bootlicker, most of what you consider to be "libs" are WHITE. And most of what goes for a lib these days are yesterdays USA loving Republicans. We're bitching about a FORMER president that has zero moral fortitude and commits all 7 deadly sins on a regular basis that is unworthy of running a sewer plant much less representing the greatest country on earth. I read posts like yours and it makes me realize the grand 'ol USA is swirling in the bowl, never in my life did I ever think there would be this much support for a horrible human being. Unbelievable.I was in that normal Republican Party that was a home for conservatives not crazies. The crazies won out and worship an orange figure with every quality of an anti-Christ. And continue to demonize anyone with a D next to their name. It's funny that our current prez has been in Washington like 50 years and was a good, moral, likable guy for 45 of those years and now he's the worst. How ignorant! Mother Theresa would be crucified by this new party of orange-lovers.
WanderingAbout
03-31-24, 01:19
This year's Easter Sunday is also Transgender Visibility Day.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13255111/easter-2024-white-house-bans-religious-eggs.html
This year's Easter Sunday is also Transgender Visibility Day.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13255111/easter-2024-white-house-bans-religious-eggs.htmlSure. But just wait until 2029. That's when Easter falls on April 1 and the GOP will lose their minds that Easter is going to be one big joke. That's the day Jesus will rise, come out of the cave, and when he sees his shadow, there will be six more weeks of winter.
So, what's your point? In a nation that recognizes 1500 religions, you think one religion has dibs on specific days? 300 million people in the country.
For those of you enjoying your time here in hell, perhaps you'll see the light in Kentuckiana. About a 2 hr drive give or take depending on where you are in the city and how fast you drive. Takes me about 1. 5 hrs. I have some reviews pending that will help you think about repenting your ways that have led you here.
Smokey Gringo
03-31-24, 20:58
This year's Easter Sunday is also Transgender Visibility Day.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13255111/easter-2024-white-house-bans-religious-eggs.htmlWhy can't it figure people body / gender dysmorphia? I, for one, could give a shit less. I think they're idiots but what he said, legislation, and what they do has no effect on any part of my life. Again, I think they're fucking weird as do most of my LGB friends, but oh well. I left out TQqia+ or whatever on purpose.
I've never met or have yet to meet one on the end of the rainbow that was a well adjusted person. But again, let them be.
Why can't it figure people body / gender dysmorphia? I, for one, could give a shit less. I think they're idiots but what he said, legislation, and what they do has no effect on any part of my life. Again, I think they're fucking weird as do most of my LGB friends, but oh well. I left out TQqia+ or whatever on purpose.
I've never met or have yet to meet one on the end of the rainbow that was a well adjusted person. But again, let them be.Zombie, or mummy? Mummies went through a burial and wrapped. Zombies just get bitten by another zombie.
YoungOne23
04-01-24, 23:45
Why can't it figure people body / gender dysmorphia? I, for one, could give a shit less. I think they're idiots but what he said, legislation, and what they do has no effect on any part of my life. Again, I think they're fucking weird as do most of my LGB friends, but oh well. I left out TQqia+ or whatever on purpose.
I've never met or have yet to meet one on the end of the rainbow that was a well adjusted person. But again, let them be.I've not met one that was right in the head. I don't think that's a coincidence. My (40+ year old) gay brother and his friends are all disgusted by the scene these days, apparently the OG gays absolutely hate the younger generation.
But thankfully it is easily avoided. Not my monkey, not my circus.
I've not met one that was right in the head. I don't think that's a coincidence. My (40+ year old) gay brother and his friends are all disgusted by the scene these days, apparently the OG gays absolutely hate the younger generation.
But thankfully it is easily avoided. Not my monkey, not my circus.I have met a few TG people who were healthy and not crazy. But they don't come across as anything but well adjusted people of their apparent gender. I suspect the well-adjusted ones basically are invisible because they don't stand out. So what you tend to see is the ones who are wacky.
TGD.
Mall Guy101
04-09-24, 20:42
I have been thinking about this and years ago almost all escorts would not take donation until done playing. That way there was over a 98 % chance it was not a cop as only rotten ones because they can't do that. Now you have all these escorts demanding payment up front. I think I am going to remind them that if I was a cop, I can lie about that all day and not get in trouble. They do it all the time when going to arrest people. Knock on a hotel door say room service or this is management they open the do and they bust them. So they can say they are not a cop but once you hand the money over before playing I believe that is no longer considered a donation and they can be charged with prostitution. Especially if you say I thought we were going to play first. Another thing I have been doing from time to since I have retired is play games on the fake ads on LC. I get them so they think they are going to real in another sucker and just when they think they have me I will say in which one of the 6 cities that you are running the same ad saying you are in that city. It really pisses them off.
I have been thinking about this and years ago almost all escorts would not take donation until done playing. That way there was over a 98 % chance it was not a cop as only rotten ones because they can't do that. Now you have all these escorts demanding payment up front. I think I am going to remind them that if I was a cop, I can lie about that all day and not get in trouble. They do it all the time when going to arrest people. Knock on a hotel door say room service or this is management they open the do and they bust them. So they can say they are not a cop but once you hand the money over before playing I believe that is no longer considered a donation and they can be charged with prostitution. Especially if you say I thought we were going to play first. Another thing I have been doing from time to since I have retired is play games on the fake ads on LC. I get them so they think they are going to real in another sucker and just when they think they have me I will say in which one of the 6 cities that you are running the same ad saying you are in that city. It really pisses them off.Hey, Mall Guy--I'm certainly no expert on this stuff but I think you're generally correct. Likewise, we can be arrested if our "escort" is really a cop. When I meet someone new I do one of two things: first, if her ad showed her nude body ALONG WITH her face, and I know for certain that the girl who answered the door is, in fact, the same girl as in the photos, then I believe I'm safe. On the other hand, if the ad did NOT show body parts and face (all in the same photo), or if there's any question in my mind whatsoever, then I drop my pants, pull my friend out for her to see and tell her, "I'm not a cop". I then ask her to prove that she's not a cop by showing me some body parts or grabbing my rod. I think that's a pretty fool-proof method.
If you do either of these or both.
Let us know if you survive.
https://tryst.link/escort/veronicajasmine
https://tryst.link/escort/brooke-dieselNot even on a dare.
I have been thinking about this and years ago almost all escorts would not take donation until done playing. That way there was over a 98 % chance it was not a cop as only rotten ones because they can't do that. Now you have all these escorts demanding payment up front. I think I am going to remind them that if I was a cop, I can lie about that all day and not get in trouble. They do it all the time when going to arrest people. Knock on a hotel door say room service or this is management they open the do and they bust them. So they can say they are not a cop but once you hand the money over before playing I believe that is no longer considered a donation and they can be charged with prostitution. Especially if you say I thought we were going to play first. Another thing I have been doing from time to since I have retired is play games on the fake ads on LC. I get them so they think they are going to real in another sucker and just when they think they have me I will say in which one of the 6 cities that you are running the same ad saying you are in that city. It really pisses them off.The laws these days can get you for conspiracy, I know a guy who did time for conspiracy to sell drugs. Nothing ever changed hands. The DUI laws in Ohio can get you for intent if you're drunk and walking to your car with your keys in hand, or a DUI if you're sleeping in your car and the keys are in the trunk, I think it's best to assume that the laws are in their favor and if you do walk into a setup you're probably going to get arrested despite technicalities or whatever tricks you use to protect yourself.
RufusFirefly
04-10-24, 06:08
I have been thinking about this and years ago almost all escorts would not take donation until done playing. That way there was over a 98 % chance it was not a cop as only rotten ones because they can't do that. Now you have all these escorts demanding payment up front. I think I am going to remind them that if I was a cop, I can lie about that all day and not get in trouble. They do it all the time when going to arrest people. Knock on a hotel door say room service or this is management they open the do and they bust them. So they can say they are not a cop but once you hand the money over before playing I believe that is no longer considered a donation and they can be charged with prostitution. Especially if you say I thought we were going to play first. Another thing I have been doing from time to since I have retired is play games on the fake ads on LC. I get them so they think they are going to real in another sucker and just when they think they have me I will say in which one of the 6 cities that you are running the same ad saying you are in that city. It really pisses them off.There are two reasons a lady asks for money before. First is they are going to rob you. Second is they want to make sure you have the money and will not rob them. The semi UTR I have been visiting recently got stiffed by a monger and now require first time visitors to lay the money down in plain sight before they start.
As FOR LOE it is safer if payment is made after. It is not fool proof because LEO does not always follow the rules. It is safer for the monger because I would believe it would be difficult to find a female police officer to do the deed to arrest a monger. I guess they could use a prostitute and have video.
WanderingAbout
04-26-24, 20:18
Nice girl. Good time. She PM'd asking not to talk on here about her gaining weight. Okay. Will let her own picture speak a 1,000 words.
Nice girl. Good time. She PM'd asking not to talk on here about her gaining weight. Okay. Will let her own picture speak a 1,000 words.That photo is at least a year old, what prompted this post, is she back?
Golfguy, playing through.
Nice girl. Good time. She PM'd asking not to talk on here about her gaining weight. Okay. Will let her own picture speak a 1,000 words.I have not seen her ad for a while. Does she still come to cincy? I thought she moved to colorado, maybe?
WanderingAbout
04-27-24, 09:23
I have not seen her ad for a while. Does she still come to cincy? I thought she moved to colorado, maybe?She is on tryst for now. Nice person. People seem to like her. Ymmv
https://tryst.link/escort/kyliexxreid
Nice girl. Good time. She PM'd asking not to talk on here about her gaining weight. Okay. Will let her own picture speak a 1,000 words.
She is on tryst for now. Nice person. People seem to like her. Ymmv
https://tryst.link/escort/kyliexxreidThat ad link says the page is down already. Only terrible people operate like this. She's really packing on the pounds and its probably going to get a lot worse soon.
Hillbilly Bob
04-27-24, 19:09
She is on tryst for now. Nice person. People seem to like her. Ymmv
https://tryst.link/escort/kyliexxreidI have seen her sever times. Never a problem an her weight never bothered me her service was always outstanding a not a clock watcher.
FootMan2007
04-27-24, 21:30
That ad link says the page is down already. Only terrible people operate like this. She's really packing on the pounds and its probably going to get a lot worse soon.She looks good with the weight gain and not bad. But I know everyone on the forum here all have the face of Channing Tatum and the body of Stallone in Rocky 4 so of course they'll be critical of her.
She looks good with the weight gain and not bad. But I know everyone on the forum here all have the face of Channing Tatum and the body of Stallone in Rocky 4 so of course they'll be critical of her.But it still doesn't matter because she appears and disappears like a big fat fart in the wind. Come on down here to reality with me and lets say it together: We are the customer, they are the product. We are the wallet, they are the tits and ass minus as much of the usual female bullshit as possible.
RufusFirefly
04-29-24, 05:16
I am surprised at how many mongers ask you for information and you type up a nice PM to get the box is full notice.
Before asking for someone to send you a PM delete old messages. Better yet delete them once and awhile.
Weed. The stench of weed. Over the years I have met a few girls I really liked, but every time I smelled the weed on them I had trouble getting past it. Walk in to a house, the cloud of smoke still lingers, and I usually smell it before I reach the door. Hair? Smells like weed. Breath? Weed. Mouth? Like stale weed. Crotch? Weed and a fish market, because stoner girls are always wet but rarely fresh like a mountain spring. I don't mind if someone smokes, I just don't want to smell it, or worse, taste it. Triggered by recent experience. Rant over.
I know FOSTA caused a huge chilling effect over everything, but I continue to wonder what happened to the "Casual Encounter" women on Craigslist. It took some time and effort but I had some good luck there. So where are they now? They weren't looking to get paid and they wanted anonymity so that seems to eliminate dating apps. I dunno. Just wondering.
RufusFirefly
04-30-24, 07:04
Weed. The stench of weed. Over the years I have met a few girls I really liked, but every time I smelled the weed on them I had trouble getting past it. Walk in to a house, the cloud of smoke still lingers, and I usually smell it before I reach the door. Hair? Smells like weed. Breath? Weed. Mouth? Like stale weed. Crotch? Weed and a fish market, because stoner girls are always wet but rarely fresh like a mountain spring. I don't mind if someone smokes, I just don't want to smell it, or worse, taste it. Triggered by recent experience. Rant over.That is why these ladies should be required to pass Home Ec in high school so they can bake brownies. Think of how many mongers they would get if they offered pot laced brownies with their horizontal refreshment.
MeadnMrsJones
04-30-24, 09:30
I know FOSTA caused a huge chilling effect over everything, but I continue to wonder what happened to the "Casual Encounter" women on Craigslist. It took some time and effort but I had some good luck there. So where are they now? They weren't looking to get paid and they wanted anonymity so that seems to eliminate dating apps. I dunno. Just wondering.It doesn't eliminate dating apps. That's where they are now. You can easily use a fake name and if you use pics that you take especially for the apps, pics that aren't linked to your IG or FB profiles, you can stay pretty close to anonymous.
I've had really good luck with tinder and bumble. To the point that I don't even really monger anymore, at least not here in Ohio. If you are reasonably handsome and have anything interesting or funny to say, there are LOADS of women who just want to get fucked. It might cost you the price of a some hot wings and a couple of beers, but if you have a little patience, a divorcee, or a married broad looking for some strange will let you do damn near anything you want to her for free if you invest a little time. It's a 1000% better option that some cracked out possibly infected, that you had to chase for hours or days in text messages to see in some filthy shithole and maybe get robbed by.
Since internet porn got so mainstream, women are lot less inhibited than they used to be. 3 Weeks ago I went to an Outback steakhouse on a Thursday night, sat at the bar to have dinner and a beer and ended up with a lady taking me balls deep in all 3 holes before 10 pm. Its true what the ads say, local MILFS in your area want to fuck.
Member #6847
05-06-24, 07:27
https://www.eros.com/ohio/files/468688.htm?cat=3859
Apparently, there is a market for porn stars from the 1980's who are now in their 60's and over 200 lbs. Does this mean someone could open a nursing home / brothel for retired porn stars in Nevada as a workable business model? I don't get it.
Todd Cincy
05-06-24, 08:14
https://www.eros.com/ohio/files/468688.htm?cat=3859
Apparently, there is a market for porn stars from the 1980's who are now in their 60's and over 200 lbs. Does this mean someone could open a nursing home / brothel for retired porn stars in Nevada as a workable business model? I don't get it.Hear, hear, Ginzo! I completely agree.
I have no doubt that she will get some takers, though.
I have never understood the granny obsession that is so prevalent on boards like this one. I understand that as a practical matter, not every provider is going to be a 24-year-old supermodel. Sometimes you have to take that 35-year-old because she's the best that's available. I get it.
I am also amenable to arguments that really young providers and SBs (18 or 19) are often "more trouble than they're worth. " For me, the sweet spot is probably 23 to 30.
I do *not*, however, understand the guys who proactively seek women over 40.
Granted, I see a few passably hot MILFs in real life. But they are *never* as hot as the 20-somethings. And the older women in the hobby are almost always beat to heck and back.
For reference: I am not a "young" guy myself. I am in my mid-50's, and I can well remember the 1980's. I have no desire to see providers who can remember the 1980's, let alone porn stars from that era.
UOnlyLiveOnce
05-06-24, 10:23
Hear, hear, Ginzo! I completely agree.
I have no doubt that she will get some takers, though.
I have never understood the granny obsession that is so prevalent on boards like this one. I understand that as a practical matter, not every provider is going to be a 24-year-old supermodel. Sometimes you have to take that 35-year-old because she's the best that's available. I get it.
I am also amenable to arguments that really young providers and SBs (18 or 19) are often "more trouble than they're worth. " For me, the sweet spot is probably 23 to 30.
I do *not*, however, understand the guys who proactively seek women over 40.
Granted, I see a few passably hot MILFs in real life. But they are *never* as hot as the 20-somethings. And the older women in the hobby are almost always beat to heck and back.
For reference: I am not a "young" guy myself. I am in my mid-50's, and I can well remember the 1980's. I have no desire to see providers who can remember the 1980's, let alone porn stars from that era.I saw a 50 year-old provider a few times last year. Not because someone that old is my first choice, but because it was convenient, inexpensive, and nearly impossible to find someone under 40 who didn't want a ridiculous donation. It helped that she was all right for that age. But then I had a 27 year-old a couple times early this year, and there was no comparison. Much, much prefer chicks in their 20's and 30's.
https://www.eros.com/ohio/files/468688.htm?cat=3859
Apparently, there is a market for porn stars from the 1980's who are now in their 60's and over 200 lbs. Does this mean someone could open a nursing home / brothel for retired porn stars in Nevada as a workable business model? I don't get it.Be nice guys; tastes differ. At least the Granny Grabbers are not competing with us for the spinners. She is not asking $600 ppm. At her level she is sure to find a few customers.
BAM.
Member #6847
05-06-24, 13:15
Be nice guys; tastes differ. At least the Granny Grabbers are not competing with us for the spinners. She is not asking $600 ppm. At her level she is sure to find a few customers.
BAM.Why are you clutching pearls in the Octagon? This is what $300 ppm gets you now: Obese and eligible for Medicare.
Just 2 years ago I could find very hot early 20s on SA that fucked like porn stars and hosted for $300.
What happened? LOL.
Why are you clutching pearls in the Octagon? This is what $300 ppm gets you now: Obese and eligible for Medicare.
Just 2 years ago I could find very hot early 20s on SA that fucked like porn stars and hosted for $300.
What happened? LOL.2 years ago, I was finding super hot SB's on Tinder from UC for 300 and they'd stay as long as I wanted, fucked like rabbits and did anything I wanted. Stocked up on the morning after pill b / c most of them were fine doing BB and getting filled up. Now Tinder is all bots and no hots.
Why are you clutching pearls in the Octagon? This is what $300 ppm gets you now: Obese and eligible for Medicare.
Just 2 years ago I could find very hot early 20s on SA that fucked like porn stars and hosted for $300.
What happened? LOL.Bidenomics! Plane and simple.
Golfguy, playing through.
Smokey Gringo
05-06-24, 15:58
Hear, hear, Ginzo! I completely agree.
I have no doubt that she will get some takers, though.
I have never understood the granny obsession that is so prevalent on boards like this one. I understand that as a practical matter, not every provider is going to be a 24-year-old supermodel. Sometimes you have to take that 35-year-old because she's the best that's available. I get it.
I am also amenable to arguments that really young providers and SBs (18 or 19) are often "more trouble than they're worth. " For me, the sweet spot is probably 23 to 30.
I do *not*, however, understand the guys who proactively seek women over 40.
Granted, I see a few passably hot MILFs in real life. But they are *never* as hot as the 20-somethings. And the older women in the hobby are almost always beat to heck and back.
For reference: I am not a "young" guy myself. I am in my mid-50's, and I can well remember the 1980's. I have no desire to see providers who can remember the 1980's, let alone porn stars from that era.I like them within a certain age too Todd just like you. You and I have both been very vocal of the degradation of talent within our market.
With that being said, she at least has some actual adult work clout. Now I'm quite sure she was never m / f action and it was just "Busty" "Juggs" "Score" and whatever gas station nudie mag so there's the nostalgia / star aspect for dudes. Basically they can finally get her. There's quite a few over the hill pornstars I would take a $300 swing at. Hell, I used to have a MILF fetish too until I realized I'm older than the MILF pornstars. These other skin bags doods keep posting don't even have that. They're just used up trashy ugly old Marlboro and Mt. Dew receptacles. Looking at you Lilsexyme lovers. I don't know what doctor thought it was a good idea to stick bolt ons on a skeleton but, there she was.
And to circle back around, we have an actual verifiable "porn" lady asking 1/3 to 3/4 less of what most of the current crop want. Even as attractive as they may be, never forget their also now starting demand deposits and super bs PII that should be a blockade for 99% of men. But here we are. Tryst keeps getting more unbelievable by the day and the dudes paying money like you've commented "to just have dinner and go out or be seen out is unreal and keeps fucking the market.
Let her get it. I wholly support her. I hope she causes at least two less overpriced slags and Fatties phones to not ring.
And watching economic data as I have been, the reckoning is coming.
PrettyCoolGuy
05-06-24, 18:21
It doesn't eliminate dating apps. That's where they are now. You can easily use a fake name and if you use pics that you take especially for the apps, pics that aren't linked to your IG or FB profiles, you can stay pretty close to anonymous.
I've had really good luck with tinder and bumble. To the point that I don't even really monger anymore, at least not here in Ohio. If you are reasonably handsome and have anything interesting or funny to say, there are LOADS of women who just want to get fucked. It might cost you the price of a some hot wings and a couple of beers, but if you have a little patience, a divorcee, or a married broad looking for some strange will let you do damn near anything you want to her for free if you invest a little time. It's a 1000% better option that some cracked out possibly infected, that you had to chase for hours or days in text messages to see in some filthy shithole and maybe get robbed by.
Since internet porn got so mainstream, women are lot less inhibited than they used to be. 3 Weeks ago I went to an Outback steakhouse on a Thursday night, sat at the bar to have dinner and a beer and ended up with a lady taking me balls deep in all 3 holes before 10 pm. Its true what the ads say, local MILFS in your area want to fuck.Any pointers you could give on using dating apps? I've never had any luck with those.
Smokey Gringo
05-06-24, 18:38
Bidenomics! Plane and simple.
Golfguy, playing through.Except the orange cheetoh colored shitzinpants and "dances like he's jerking two guys off at once" loud mouth psycho paid for a pornstar well above market rates and even more to shut her up. And now he's on trial. DRUMPONOMICS!
Your comment makes me think you're playing thru at a Putt-Putt level.
Bidenomics! Plane and simple.
Golfguy, playing through.Inflation is a worldwide problem- basically corporations are screwing everybody, continuing to raise prices even though supply chain issues are back to pre-COVId. Its actually been dropping in the US relative to the rest of the world.
I like your reviews and perspectives, but this ain't Biden's fault.
The good Dr.
Inflation is a worldwide problem- basically corporations are screwing everybody, continuing to raise prices even though supply chain issues are back to pre-COVId. Its actually been dropping in the US relative to the rest
of the world
I like your reviews and perspectives, but this ain't Biden's fault.
The good Dr.It's all Communist Joe's fault. He started with a war on fossil fuel that raised the price of transporting all the product we depend on and in case you didn't know this but fossil fuel runs our economy. He also caused labor cost to increase that fuels inflation and once that cat is out of the bag labor cost never comes down. Labor cost is at least 45% of the cost of doing business but you probably already knew that. Bottom line is higher prices are here to stay.
Todd Cincy
05-06-24, 20:16
Inflation is a worldwide problem- basically corporations are screwing everybody, continuing to raise prices even though supply chain issues are back to pre-COVId. Its actually been dropping in the US relative to the rest of the world.
I like your reviews and perspectives, but this ain't Biden's fault.
The good Dr.The Golden Age actually coincided with the Obama years (2009 to 2017).
That said, I don't think Obama had a "help the hobbyists" agenda. If we did benefit from anything political during that period, it was probably the comparatively lenient enforcement regime under Ohio governors Ted Strictland (D), and John Kasich, a socially moderate Republican in the Gerald Ford tradition.
Dave Yost (the current, fanatically anti-sex Ohio AG) isn't completely responsible for the drought, but he isn't helping matters. Likewise, SESTA / FOSTA (2018) didn't help, but it didn't dry everything up, either, especially if you preferred the higher-end girls and sugar babies. (As a sugar daddy, SESTA / FOSTA didn't affect me much at all, except that it sent scammers from the shuttered adult sites onto Seeking.).
The big problem now, in my opinion, is that at the most basic level, we are purchasing labor, and labor markets were turned upside down by COVID. The mainstream labor markets are starting to correct, but it will probably take more time for new talent to enter the hobby market in a big way.
Last week, the jobs data from April showed a definite cooling in the labor market. Hiring of Gen Z candidates has definitely decreased too, compared to the high point of 2021-2.
I don't want to see an economic crash, or girls on the street corner with "Will f*ck for food" signs. We don't need anything that extreme. A normal unemployment rate of 5 percent should be enough to create incentives for more young women to try the male entertainment business. Of course, there are some who never would, under any circumstances.
I think that the OnlyFools craze was an issue for a time. But I believe that wave has crested and receded. We may actually see a flood of former online girls on the market before long.
More supply will inexorably lead to lower prices. The question is not "if" but "when".
Member #6847
05-06-24, 20:55
It's all Communist Joe's fault. He started with a war on fossil fuel that raised the price of transporting all the product we depend on and in case you didn't know this but fossil fuel runs our economy. He also caused labor cost to increase that fuels inflation and once that cat is out of the bag labor cost never comes down. Labor cost is at least 45% of the cost of doing business but you probably already knew that. Bottom line is higher prices are here to stay.What language is that again? I'm sure it made sense in your smooth brain anyway.
Inflation is a global problem and the US has the lowest in the G7. The US also has the highest growth in the G7. Jerome Powell, a Trump nominee, has done a brilliant job delivering a "soft landing," despite basically his whole profession of glorified astrologers doubting him. Yeah, it sucks that interest rates are high now, but prolonged low rates were like rocket fuel for inflation.
BaddenBoy2020
05-06-24, 21:07
The Golden Age actually coincided with the Obama years (2009 to 2017).
I think that the OnlyFools craze was an issue for a time. But I believe that wave has crested and receded. We may actually see a flood of former online girls on the market before long.
More supply will inexorably lead to lower prices. The question is not "if" but "when".Onlyfans is not going away, maybe the demand has gone down, but its effects on supply are still felt. Seeking profiles advertising "online only" are still out there at alarming rate (more than I'd ever think) and guys are still paying for text relationships. There are Tik tok pages that show these girls how to extract funds all while never meeting. Google it, it's a thing. I wasn't around during the "golden age" so I don't know if the number of online profiles is the same as what we are seeing now, but I'm guessing it's more.
Smokey Gringo
05-06-24, 22:21
The two or three of you that used "inflation", I pretty much disregarded as full of shit and not knowing what the fuck you're talking about because what we are dealing with in these times isn't "inflation".
It's plain and simple corporate / shareholder greed.
I just read a report that McDonald's or somebody was bitching about labor and how it affects things and it went from 31% to 33%. Fucking 2%. Kroger CEO has like a $30 million compensation and corporate profits and the Dow are unprecedented. What about Drump vonshitzinpantz jerks two guys off while dancing now? That party don't give a fuck about prices. They're not only in bed with them, they're the fucking main driver.
Fuck you guys and knock it off after this. I blame PuttPuttGuy for "passing thru" and stirring the shit like he always does.
Smokey Gringo
05-06-24, 22:29
Onlyfans is not going away, maybe the demand has gone down, but its effects on supply are still felt. Seeking profiles advertising "online only" are still out there at alarming rate (more than I'd ever think) and guys are still paying for text relationships. There are Tik tok pages that show these girls how to extract funds all while never meeting. Google it, it's a thing. I wasn't around during the "golden age" so I don't know if the number of online profiles is the same as what we are seeing now, but I'm guessing it's more.It's way more than it ever was. It's decimated strippers and escorts. Now instead of either, they can just sit behind a screen and upload pics / vids and extract the money without doing anything tangible. That may be fine for out of areas ladies or starlets or the old days, but it started to enable and encompass hometown girls right in our backyard. I'll say it for the last time: IT'S A PARASITE.
Fuck them, fuck that, and fuck anybody who defends it. You spend your money that way. You're an absolute complete dumb asshole ruining not only for yourself by being a cuck but also for everyone. Also, the reason for GPS anymore.
Bidenomics! Plane and simple.
Golfguy, playing through.Now the President of the United States controls the price of pussy TOO? I mean I know Biden conspired with 48 grand jurors from all walks of life in separate states that were seated on 4 separate grand juries for 88 felony criminal charges in a feeble attempt to imprison his political foes and is engaging in election interference but now I find out he's raising the price of pussy too. Sad. FJB! How DARE he!
Hillbilly Bob
05-07-24, 11:00
Bidenomics! Plane and simple.
Golfguy, playing through.Totally agree. It has effected everything from providers to fishing license, gas, an food.
What language is that again? I'm sure it made sense in your smooth brain anyway.
Inflation is a global problem and the US has the lowest in the G7. The US also has the highest growth in the G7. Jerome Powell, a Trump nominee, has done a brilliant job delivering a "soft landing," despite basically his whole profession of glorified astrologers doubting him. Yeah, it sucks that interest rates are high now, but prolonged low rates were like rocket fuel for inflation.Sorry I was at work and in a hurry but I'm sure you got my point. Thanks grammar Nazi.
P.S. Get off the G-7 cock. They are all just country club rump rangers.
Bidenomics! Plane and simple.
Golfguy, playing through.Golfguy, I've read your posts for years. You are an extremely intelligent guy. And now you post a Biden Boogeyman post?? ? ?
Seriously?
Blaming Biden for everything that happens in the country, from toilet paper roll shrinkage to the cost of the local putt putt to government regulation of condoms is simply foolish stupidity. It's the bastion of a weak, lazy mind.
Hate Biden for whatever misplaced hatred you have, but please be more intellectual than to blanket blame the old guy for every quintessential act that happens on the planet. Geez.
(And I used to be a Republican, when republicans WERE republicans!
Member #6847
05-08-24, 07:22
Sorry I was at work and in a hurry but I'm sure you got my point. Thanks grammar Nazi.
P.S. Get off the G-7 cock. They are all just country club rump rangers.No, I did not get your point. I don't speak retard.
No, I did not get your point. I don't speak retard.I'll keep it simple. Labor cost and energy, when they go up that is what causes inflation. Labor cost is in everything that is produced starting with the raw materials. This includes all the way thru production and delivery. It take energy to produce everything so when it goes up including gas for transportation this also raises prices. Everything else is talking heads BS like you. Remove energy from society and you have a 3rd world country.
Mall Guy101
05-08-24, 12:13
When you make it harder to drill and transport crude oil the price is going to go up. Just like what happened when the democrats ended the pipe line that Trump had approved. When the cost of delivering products go up because instead of using American oil we now have to import oil. So that means the cost of gas and diesel go up. Than the democrats blame the oil companies saying they are greedy. They blame the farmers the manufactures for raising there prices and say they are greedy. The democrats push for the changes on how much water a toilet, washing machine, and dish washer can use. When the cost of redesign and manufacturing them go up of course the price for those items goes up as well. Who do the democrats blame the manufactures for being greedy. Just like when the democrats go soft on crime, defund the police, care more about the criminal than the victim. They blame the gun and not the person. And when there policies go bad instead of sayin we made a mistake, they blame someone else. Remember a vote for democrats is a vote for higher taxes, higher crime, take your guns away more free stuff for those that don't deserve it. For me I'll vote for the guy with the mean tweets and the orange coat. And not for that senile old man that can't remember who he is and doesn't know the difference between notes that he should read and instructions for him when he is done reading.
I'll keep it simple. Labor cost and energy, when they go up that is what causes inflation. Labor cost is in everything that is produced starting with the raw materials. This includes all the way thru production and delivery. It take energy to produce everything so when it goes up including gas for transportation this also raises prices. Everything else is talking heads BS like you. Remove energy from society and you have a 3rd world country.
When you make it harder to drill and transport crude oil the price is going to go up. Just like what happened when the democrats ended the pipe line that Trump had approved. When the cost of delivering products go up because instead of using American oil we now have to import oil. So that means the cost of gas and diesel go up. Than the democrats blame the oil companies saying they are greedy. They blame the farmers the manufactures for raising there prices and say they are greedy. The democrats push for the changes on how much water a toilet, washing machine, and dish washer can use. When the cost of redesign and manufacturing them go up of course the price for those items goes up as well. Who do the democrats blame the manufactures for being greedy. Just like when the democrats go soft on crime, defund the police, care more about the criminal than the victim. They blame the gun and not the person. And when there policies go bad instead of sayin we made a mistake, they blame someone else. Remember a vote for democrats is a vote for higher taxes, higher crime, take your guns away more free stuff for those that don't deserve it. For me I'll vote for the guy with the mean tweets and the orange coat. And not for that senile old man that can't remember who he is and doesn't know the difference between notes that he should read and instructions for him when he is done reading.https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61545
Evidently I've ruffled a few feathers. No, Biden doesn't control pussy prices. What he has done is raise the price of everything else. Therefor everyone charges more for everything, including providers and their pussy. Because of Biden everything costs more; food, groceries, gas, energy, hotels, used cars, new cars, goods, services.
First off he killed the oil pipeline and oil drilling his first day in office, the consequences of that has raised the price of everything. Since covid all hotels have raised their prices tremendously which in turn raises the price for incall. Guess what? The girls don't just absorb that they pass it on to us. Kind of like when Biden wants corporations and the rich ton"pay their fair share" well guess what? They simply raise their prices and pass that on to the consumer. So yes, in a sense Biden now controls the price of pussy. I thought you guys were smarter than that but instead you had to get on here and make it all about Trump, when he was never mentioned.
Like cream, the stupidity rises to the top!
Golfguy, playing through.
When you make it harder to drill and transport crude oil the price is going to go up. Just like what happened when the democrats ended the pipe line that Trump had approved. When the cost of delivering products go up because instead of using American oil we now have to import oil. So that means the cost of gas and diesel go up. Than the democrats blame the oil companies saying they are greedy. They blame the farmers the manufactures for raising there prices and say they are greedy. The democrats push for the changes on how much water a toilet, washing machine, and dish washer can use. When the cost of redesign and manufacturing them go up of course the price for those items goes up as well. Who do the democrats blame the manufactures for being greedy. Just like when the democrats go soft on crime, defund the police, care more about the criminal than the victim. They blame the gun and not the person. And when there policies go bad instead of sayin we made a mistake, they blame someone else. Remember a vote for democrats is a vote for higher taxes, higher crime, take your guns away more free stuff for those that don't deserve it. For me I'll vote for the guy with the mean tweets and the orange coat. And not for that senile old man that can't remember who he is and doesn't know the difference between notes that he should read and instructions for him when he is done reading.Years free supply of Viagra to the next poster that uses the word crude or pipe in a sexual context! LOL.
Evidently I've ruffled a few feathers. No, Biden doesn't control pussy prices. What he has done is raise the price of everything else. Therefor everyone charges more for everything, including providers and their pussy. Because of Biden everything costs more; food, groceries, gas, energy, hotels, used cars, new cars, goods, services.
First off he killed the oil pipeline and oil drilling his first day in office, the consequences of that has raised the price of everything. Since covid all hotels have raised their prices tremendously which in turn raises the price for incall. Guess what? The girls don't just absorb that they pass it on to us. Kind of like when Biden wants corporations and the rich ton"pay their fair share" well guess what? They simply raise their prices and pass that on to the consumer. So yes, in a sense Biden now controls the price of pussy. I thought you guys were smarter than that but instead you had to get on here and make it all about Trump, when he was never mentioned.
Like cream, the stupidity rises to the top!
Golfguy, playing through.First that oil pipeline he killed was to carry Canadian tar sands oil to Texas to be exported. Second, The USA is currently producing more oil daily, over 13 million barrels per day, more than any nation on earth and has been doing so for years now. So if you don't like the price of gas call your local energy supplier because the last president that truly controlled gas prices, Dick Cheney, termed out.
Inflation, you know it's been a global problem and that the US has some of the lowest inflation amongst the industrialized nations right? Of course you do, you're the cream that rose to the top. And you know the pandemic screwed everything up and that it takes time, years, for everything to return to normal right? That this crap doesn't fix itself magically with a flip of the switch? Of course you do, you're the brightest guy in the room! Yes prices are up, but how is it Joe Biden making these price increases? I suppose he made calls to all the CEO's and told them to raise prices. Or maybe it's those corporations with record profits and stock buybacks. Prices have been going up since I've been alive. At least the shelves aren't empty like they were pre Biden, and I don't have a president telling me shove a UV light up my ass and to take horse meds to keep from getting sick all while sucking Putin's penis. All while spending over 100 million on golfing. And don't tell me you're not talking about trump, typical gaslighting garbage. There's an election in 6 months and you're on here whining that every problem on earth including the price of pussy is Joe Biden's fault while DJT is the only other option. Your posts are nothing but trump propaganda, spare me your clutched pearls.
First that oil pipeline he killed was to carry Canadian tar sands oil to Texas to be exported. Second, The USA is currently producing more oil daily, over 13 million barrels per day, more than any nation on earth and has been doing so for years now. So if you don't like the price of gas call your local energy supplier because the last president that truly controlled gas prices, Dick Cheney, termed out.
Inflation, you know it's been a global problem and that the US has some of the lowest inflation amongst the industrialized nations right? Of course you do, you're the cream that rose to the top. And you know the pandemic screwed everything up and that it takes time, years, for everything to return to normal right? That this crap doesn't fix itself magically with a flip of the switch? Of course you do, you're the brightest guy in the room! Yes prices are up, but how is it Joe Biden making these price increases? I suppose he made calls to all the CEO's and told them to raise prices. Or maybe it's those corporations with record profits and stock buybacks. Prices have been going up since I've been alive. At least the shelves aren't empty like they were pre Biden, and I don't have a president telling me shove a UV light up my ass and to take horse meds to keep from getting sick all while sucking Putin's penis. All while spending over 100 million on golfing. And don't tell me you're not talking about trump, typical gaslighting garbage. There's an election in 6 months and you're on here whining that every problem on earth including the price of pussy is Joe Biden's fault while DJT is the only other option. Your posts are nothing but trump propaganda, spare me your clutched pearls.I agree completely JimJaimes. Most Americans are moderates. Some lean to the left and some lean to the right. But it's the extremists and troublemakers on the far left and far right that need to be called out and put in their place. I wish we had 2 younger candidates to choose from in November. The Orange Turd is a disgusting human being who needs to be in jail!! Anyone who supports him is a reflection of your character as a human being.
Smokey Gringo
05-10-24, 23:56
Evidently I've ruffled a few feathers. No, Biden doesn't control pussy prices. What he has done is raise the price of everything else. Therefor everyone charges more for everything, including providers and their pussy. Because of Biden everything costs more; food, groceries, gas, energy, hotels, used cars, new cars, goods, services.
First off he killed the oil pipeline and oil drilling his first day in office, the consequences of that has raised the price of everything. Since covid all hotels have raised their prices tremendously which in turn raises the price for incall. Guess what? The girls don't just absorb that they pass it on to us. Kind of like when Biden wants corporations and the rich ton"pay their fair share" well guess what? They simply raise their prices and pass that on to the consumer. So yes, in a sense Biden now controls the price of pussy. I thought you guys were smarter than that but instead you had to get on here and make it all about Trump, when he was never mentioned.
Like cream, the stupidity rises to the top!
Golfguy, playing through.Nice try on weaseling out on political bullshit you started. And being on the ladies side? WTF, I got a guy on here who you should meet, perfect fellow cuckold. And it's clear you're part of the problem. None of what these ladies are charging has anything to do with incremental raises in prices of everyday stuff. CincyTodd has posted an inflation calculator showing what should be happening versus what has. It's basic GPS and or greed.
I've said it before and I'll repeat it, Hotels haven't shot up that much. And what gas expense? And by most pics anymore they sure as shit ain't spending it on fucking makeup / hair / lingerie / lube etc. The fucking far majority park their useless asses at a hotel for a weekend and don't do outcall. So where the fuck are they driving? They got you fools making up excuses to your wives then driving all over town risking tickets / robbed / arrested, all on your dime just to bring them more money. And don't forget, you ain't the only one in that day.
None of these girls make more than $30 HR in any real life job which ain't bad money. But. Let's just say they do. $30 HR x 40 hrs = $1200 Gross, $1000 Net per week plus expenses.
DON'T FORGET THAT'S 5 DAYS, FOR 8 HOURS A DAY. 4 times a month without fail.
With these stupid fucking Tryst rates, that's 1-2 hours with just one fucking guy. Even at our sweet zone of $200-$300 HR (8-9 hours in the real world) only have to work 3 hours and maybe 2-3 guys on a weekend night or whatever fucking days they are doing it. That easily pays for the hotel and they're goddamn damn near rent for the month at their actual residence. Now add in an additional day if they are really enterprising. And don't forget all tax free.
I'm all for working ladies and them getting paid. I'm also not a fool about what they're worth and what they should get in real dollars and "sense".
I'm going to drop this here for all your red / blue guys.
""Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations that've long since bought and paid for, the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pocket, and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and the information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. " -George Carlin.
I was in Bulgaria in a taxi going to Bucharest to catch a flight. I mentioned to the taxi driver how as a person who grew up during the cold war how strange it felt to me to be in Bulgaria because it was behind the Iron Curtain. His response surprised me, he told me that he missed Communism and wished the Soviet Union hadn't fallen. I told him I was surprised because he owned his taxi and asked if capitalism hadn't allowed him to be his own boss and he said "communism, capitalism, both are shit. I don't own this car the bank does. I liked Communism better because then it was us against them, now they make us fight each other and nobody sees that the same people still run everything and take everything. ".
I never looked at American Politics the same way again. Biden doesn't give a fuck about a single one of you guys and neither does Trump, neither does a single member of the Senate nor the House. They look after the people who keep them in office full fucking stop, you are a bug to them. Look at how much shittier it is living there since the 80's when news outlets figured out that the money is in the divide not the news.
I feel bad for all of you because you don't understand that it's a rigged game and the only real smart move is to pack up, get out, and stop playing.
A2.
WanderingAbout
05-11-24, 19:30
I'm going to drop this here for all your red / blue guys. "Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations that've long since bought and paid for, the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pocket, and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and the information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. " -George Carlin.Three City Empire. If youre interested. True or Not - Something to think about.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/26566406/The-3-City-States
https://www.sinhalanet.net/three-corporations-run-the-world-city-of-london-washington-dc-and-vatican-city
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xm2LdEup1OOc6K9IJteB5YMj6_kDtSY
Smokey Gringo
05-11-24, 21:06
Three City Empire. If youre interested. True or Not - Something to think about.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/26566406/The-3-City-States
https://www.sinhalanet.net/three-corporations-run-the-world-city-of-london-washington-dc-and-vatican-city
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xm2LdEup1OOc6K9IJteB5YMj6_kDtSYNow we've gone full on the Vinci code.
One question. Why are they so hell bent on keeping Trump out. They never went after anybody like they are him. Maybe he is not one of them.
I'm going to drop this here for all your red / blue guys.
""Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations that've long since bought and paid for, the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pocket, and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and the information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. " -George Carlin.
I was in Bulgaria in a taxi going to Bucharest to catch a flight. I mentioned to the taxi driver how as a person who grew up during the cold war how strange it felt to me to be in Bulgaria because it was behind the Iron Curtain. His response surprised me, he told me that he missed Communism and wished the Soviet Union hadn't fallen. I told him I was surprised because he owned his taxi and asked if capitalism hadn't allowed him to be his own boss and he said "communism, capitalism, both are shit. I don't own this car the bank does. I liked Communism better because then it was us against them, now they make us fight each other and nobody sees that the same people still run everything and take everything. ".
I never looked at American Politics the same way again. Biden doesn't give a fuck about a single one of you guys and neither does Trump, neither does a single member of the Senate nor the House. They look after the people who keep them in office full fucking stop, you are a bug to them. Look at how much shittier it is living there since the 80's when news outlets figured out that the money is in the divide not the news.
I feel bad for all of you because you don't understand that it's a rigged game and the only real smart move is to pack up, get out, and stop playing.
A2.
One question. Why are they so hell bent on keeping Trump out. They never went after anybody like they are him. Maybe he is not one of them.Trump is a career criminal. Convicted of sex assault, theft of charity monies that was supposed to go to children with cancer and disabled veterans, and financial fraud. So you are correct. He is not one of them.
Three City Empire. If youre interested. True or Not - Something to think about.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/26566406/The-3-City-States
https://www.sinhalanet.net/three-corporations-run-the-world-city-of-london-washington-dc-and-vatican-city
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xm2LdEup1OOc6K9IJteB5YMj6_kDtSY"The aforementioned city-states listed above are sovereign, corporate entities not connected to the nations they appear to be part of. In other words, the City of London (that is the square mile within Greater London) is not technically part of Greater London or England, just as Vatican City is not part of Rome or Italy. Likewise, Washington DC is not part of the United States that it controls. ".
While it's true that Vatican City is a sovereign country that is a city state like Monaco and Singapore the square mile you are talking about in London is part of England and DC is part of the US, it's not a state but it is part of the US.
As far as finance I think NYC controls more capital than London does. Obviously not the city of NY but the firms that are there. The two largest stock exchanges in the world (NYSE and Nasdaq) are in NYC.
One question. Why are they so hell bent on keeping Trump out. They never went after anybody like they are him. Maybe he is not one of them.I assume you mean Democrats. They are hell bent on keeping any Republican from office. If you mean some global conspiracy to keep him out, I don't think there is one. I think he lost the election in 2020 legitimately but Trump has never ever publicly admitted failure of any kind so instead of conceding he started ranting about being robbed.
If you mean his opponents on the right that's part of the game. Trump is just really good at calling it a personal conspiracy against him and some of his followers believe it.
Look, I know there are a lot of people that don't agree with me. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I don't agree. I think voter fraud in the US has mostly been invented by the right to make excuses for suppressing the vote for poor people. It's something the ACLU (yes I know, it's part of the worldwide conspiracy to disenfranchise white people) works really hard to stop. I know for a fact in Texas (because I used to live there) they closed all the DMV regional offices in predominantly poor democratic counties forcing people to have to drive hundreds of miles to get an I'd in order to reduce those counties effectiveness in elections.
This is one of the many issues that pushed my decision to leave the land of my birth and live elsewhere.
I want to say this again, I'm neither red nor blue. I admit my feelings and politics are progressive but the straw that broke the camels back for me about living in the US was when Obama signed the NDAA of 2011 (I think) that made rendition of American Citizens legal. That was it for me. I was gone that year and never came back.
A2.
Is this,
The election is a binary CHOICE between a twice impeached, four time indicted criminal who is an anti-Christian thief and conman who insurrected his own government.
And a person who is none.
In the world of intelligence, morals, values, and common sense, this is an easy one.
Except if you are IN the cult.
Jim Jones, reduct.
Is this,
The election is a binary CHOICE between a twice impeached, four time indicted criminal who is an anti-Christian thief and conman who insurrected his own government.
And a person who is none.
In the world of intelligence, morals, values, and common sense, this is an easy one.
Except if you are IN the cult.
Jim Jones, reduct.Being impeached by democrats (which means nothing) yet acquitted. Indicted but not convicted and besides ridiculously transparent politically motivated. No evidence of anti-Christian beliefs. Never accused legally of insurrection. Thief? So this is your is your case to instead vote for a decades long corrupt, liar, political criminal who is also clearly suffering from dementia? That's your rationale for voting for Biden over Trump? Biden clearly has no intelligence, morals, values and clearly no common sense because he can't remember what he did yesterday. This is an easy one. Except if you are a moron.
Being impeached by democrats (which means nothing) yet acquitted. Indicted but not convicted and besides ridiculously transparent politically motivated. No evidence of anti-Christian beliefs. Never accused legally of insurrection. Thief? So this is your is your case to instead vote for a decades long corrupt, liar, political criminal who is also clearly suffering from dementia? That's your rationale for voting for Biden over Trump? Biden clearly has no intelligence, morals, values and clearly no common sense because he can't remember what he did yesterday. This is an easy one. Except if you are a moron.Breaking the "Thou shall not steal" (theft of charity money), "Thou shall not bear false witness" (defamation), "Thou shall not commit adultery" (cheated on his first wife with who would be his second wife, then cheated on her with who would be his third wife, and then cheated on her with a porn star), "thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife (E. Jean Carroll was married when Trump sexually assaulted her) are very much anti-Christian.
What did Jesus say about paying taxes? "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. ". So in other words, pay your taxes. Falsifying financial records to cheat on taxes, is also anti-Christian.
Hillbilly Bob
05-16-24, 20:51
Breaking the "Thou shall not steal" (theft of charity money), "Thou shall not bear false witness" (defamation), "Thou shall not commit adultery" (cheated on his first wife with who would be his second wife, then cheated on her with who would be his third wife, and then cheated on her with a porn star), "thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife (E. Jean Carroll was married when Trump sexually assaulted her) are very much anti-Christian.
What did Jesus say about paying taxes? "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. ". So in other words, pay your taxes. Falsifying financial records to cheat on taxes, is also anti-Christian.Sounds to me like you did a good job describing Biden You did leave out snifing ladies an young girls hair.
SteveTimder
05-17-24, 01:33
Out of 300 million legal Americans, can we please have better options to choose from?
Breaking the "Thou shall not steal" (theft of charity money), "Thou shall not bear false witness" (defamation), "Thou shall not commit adultery" (cheated on his first wife with who would be his second wife, then cheated on her with who would be his third wife, and then cheated on her with a porn star), "thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife (E. Jean Carroll was married when Trump sexually assaulted her) are very much anti-Christian.
What did Jesus say about paying taxes? "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. ". So in other words, pay your taxes. Falsifying financial records to cheat on taxes, is also anti-Christian.
Sounds to me like you did a good job describing Biden You did leave out snifing ladies an young girls hair.As far as an, "I know you are but what am I" style of rebuttal / deflection, that was pretty weak. The comparison between the two isn't even close. Do better, HB.
CarpetBagger
05-18-24, 14:12
No point arguing further about this. If you're comfortable answering all questions, that's cool. As somebody who occasionally engages in illegal activities (like the one everybody on this forum does), I personally will continue doing what I have done successfully for many years with zero negative repercussions, I. E. Not volunteer information unnecessarily to cops on fishing expeditions.While always polite, I cannot imagine why anyone would ever answer any questions from a cop. Cops passed a civil service test, they're not detectives for a reason. Patrol cops reply 99.5% of self-incrimination, because most criminals are even less clever than a cop.
I forget their handle, but there's a couple of hilarious lawyers (Chicago? Maybe Philly accent?) that constantly give advice, and every traffic stop advice video they do is basically; after you've politely provided license and registration. Shut the fuck up. They say it like 8 times in each video, they're great.
Anywho. I'm not one to tell anybody else what to do, I don't pretend to know what's best for other people. But a big smile and "I don't answer questions" is the end of my cop convos.
Trump is a career criminal. Convicted of sex assault, theft of charity monies that was supposed to go to children with cancer and disabled veterans, and financial fraud. So you are correct. He is not one of them.As far as I know, Trump has never been convicted of the crimes you mention. I believe these were all civil lawsuits where he had judgements issued against him. These are not criminal convictions. Just my 2 cents.
As far as I know, Trump has never been convicted of the crimes you mention. I believe these were all civil lawsuits where he had judgements issued against him. These are not criminal convictions. Just my 2 cents.Are you going to tell your sister that she wasn't raped, because her attacker was held liable "only in a civil lawsuit". Is that really where your moral compass points? It's not really a crime if, "it's only a civil lawsuit". BTW, the judge was clear in his instructions to the jury in his second trial against E. Hean Carroll; Trump raped her, and he used that word, "rape".
Trump is a career criminal who has used his wealth to insulate himself from repercussions of his actions.
"it's only a civil trial" is such a weak justification to defend a career criminal.
CautiousTed
05-19-24, 11:13
Such a tragic event in her life that she couldn't remember exactly when it happened.
Stated numerous times the last being with Anderson Cooper that it wasn't rape so what is it then?
Carroll argued that her alleged rape wasn't a big deal because it happens to other people, she's also saying that it wasn't really a rape because it didn't last long and it wasn't even sexual. What?
On 9 May the jury in the civil case returned a verdict that Mr Trump was liable for sexually abusing Ms Carroll, but not raping her.
Nobody and I do mean nobody should get away with rape however. 30 years past before this lady comes forward and can't recount the exact date / time but totally remembers the details of shopping, the color of the clothing, there wasn't a store clerk anywhere. Etc. Sorry but I don't buy it. She saw dollar signs and waited her time to bring it forward almost as if it had something to do with an upcoming election. Again.
Not a Trump supporter. Just a person that pays attention.
Are you going to tell your sister that she wasn't raped, because her attacker was held liable "only in a civil lawsuit". Is that really where your moral compass points? It's not really a crime if, "it's only a civil lawsuit". BTW, the judge was clear in his instructions to the jury in his second trial against E. Hean Carroll; Trump raped her, and he used that word, "rape".
Trump is a career criminal who has used his wealth to insulate himself from repercussions of his actions.
"it's only a civil trial" is such a weak justification to defend a career criminal.
Such a tragic event in her life that she couldn't remember exactly when it happened.
Stated numerous times the last being with Anderson Cooper that it wasn't rape so what is it then?
Carroll argued that her alleged rape wasn't a big deal because it happens to other people, she's also saying that it wasn't really a rape because it didn't last long and it wasn't even sexual. What?
On 9 May the jury in the civil case returned a verdict that Mr Trump was liable for sexually abusing Ms Carroll, but not raping her.
Nobody and I do mean nobody should get away with rape however. 30 years past before this lady comes forward and can't recount the exact date / time but totally remembers the details of shopping, the color of the clothing, there wasn't a store clerk anywhere. Etc. Sorry but I don't buy it. She saw dollar signs and waited her time to bring it forward almost as if it had something to do with an upcoming election. Again.
Not a Trump supporter. Just a person that pays attention.A lot of survivors of traumatic experiences don't remember the exact dates. But it's a good thing she told one of her friends what happened right after it happened and she was able to supply that detail during her time on the witness stand.
Were you paying attention to that testimony?
Donald Trump is a career criminal. He described his modus operandi in the Access Hollywood tape, which matches her description of her experience.
He stole charity money for children with cancer and disabled veterans. He cheated people who did work for him. He faked financial forms to pay less taxes.
Sorry I didn't see your post yesterday, I would've asked where you were teaching Sunday school class this morning so I could get more biblically educated. You sound like one of the fine religious leaders from Jesus' time. Send me your address so I can mail you 'the first stone' to throw at your almost convicted subject. Of course, I'm sure you realize you'll need a whole pile of rocks to throw at all of the politicians that currently would have a rough time surviving those accusations. Hell, some are probably even be Your favorite stooges. I admire a person who is sooo Christian that they have never fudged on their taxes, amazing. You and Joe are the only two people I know of to make that claim. May God continue keep you sinless, again you are just one of two who I have heard make that particular claim. Holy crap, maybe the second coming has happened!
Breaking the "Thou shall not steal" (theft of charity money), "Thou shall not bear false witness" (defamation), "Thou shall not commit adultery" (cheated on his first wife with who would be his second wife, then cheated on her with who would be his third wife, and then cheated on her with a porn star), "thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife (E. Jean Carroll was married when Trump sexually assaulted her) are very much anti-Christian.
What did Jesus say about paying taxes? "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's. ". So in other words, pay your taxes. Falsifying financial records to cheat on taxes, is also anti-Christian.
Member #6847
05-19-24, 15:22
I admire a person who is sooo Christian that they have never fudged on their taxes, amazing. You and Joe are the only two people I know of to make that claim.
Huh? Maybe find some non-sociopaths to hang out with. Aggressive tax fraud is not the norm in life and business.
GoodWill123
05-19-24, 15:46
Just saying. I find it interesting. Joe Biden has told more lies than the last several presidents combined, and has destroyed the country. And we're focused on Trump? Blows my mind. I was just rewatching things Biden said about Afghanistan 20+ years ago, and what he says now, and how he's lied the whole time. The whole time.
I Also find it interesting that every time there's supposed dirt on trump, we end up finding he's innocent, and only to further find out the other party was involved. Russia collusion, omarosa and supposed racism, Ukraine supposed quid pro quo, and now the Stormy Daniels case which is falling apart on the democrats. Not to mention the unexplained $12 million from overseas adversaries. Seriously, and we're focused on Trump? Blows my mind.
And to see such blatent election interference on the part of Biden, just to keep Trump off the campaign trail. And ironically it's caused trumps poll numbers to climb at unprecedented levels, even in blue states! . Why? Because people are starting to see through the BS now. It's hilarious. You can't make this stuff up.
I'm neither republican nor democrat, I'm independent. But I can clearly see they're so afraid of trump and how he'll once again help our country, that they will relentlessly demonize and villianize him in the media any way they can. And even in the now two tiered system of justice that we now live in.
And I'll add this. In the bible, read John chapter 8, the woman who was caught in adultery. One theme screams off the page. And that is, if you're hell bent on hating someone, with such venomous hatred, you'll never see the real truth or even good in someone, because you've already made up your own mind. That bible passage displays so much hypocrisy on the part of those trying to crucify Him, it's not even funny. Just saying.
Sorry I didn't see your post yesterday, I would've asked where you were teaching Sunday school class this morning so I could get more biblically educated. You sound like one of the fine religious leaders from Jesus' time. Send me your address so I can mail you 'the first stone' to throw at your almost convicted subject. Of course, I'm sure you realize you'll need a whole pile of rocks to throw at all of the politicians that currently would have a rough time surviving those accusations. Hell, some are probably even be Your favorite stooges. I admire a person who is sooo Christian that they have never fudged on their taxes, amazing. You and Joe are the only two people I know of to make that claim. May God continue keep you sinless, again you are just one of two who I have heard make that particular claim. Holy crap, maybe the second coming has happened!
Maybe you and your other non-sociopath friend could tell me where to come and hang out. I look forward to your Christian morals rubbing off on me, plus I'd really like to see how "the norm in life and business" affects such an up standing, tax paying, moral living, narrow path following man such as yourself. BTW, I really like your handle G-666, where in the hell did you come up with that?
Huh? Maybe find some non-sociopaths to hang out with. Aggressive tax fraud is not the norm in life and business.
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I Also find it interesting that every time there's supposed dirt on trump, we end up finding he's innocent, and only to further find out the other party was involved. Being told by a court to repay the $2 million dollars he stole from a charity and to shut down the charity because he can't be trusted is not "finding he's innocent".
Getting found that he sexually assaulted and then defamed a woman so he has to pay her close to $90 million is not, "finding he's innocent".
Getting found by the courts that he filed false financial statements to cheat on taxes and loans and he has to pay close to $400 million is not, "finding he's innocent".
He is currently on trial for election finance fraud, and the grand jury that returned 33 indictments did not, "finding he's innocent".
There's still the GA, the FL, and the DC indictments whose grand juries did not, "finding he's innocent".
Just saying. I find it interesting. Joe Biden has told more lies than the last several presidents combined, and has destroyed the country. And we're focused on Trump? Blows my mind. I was just rewatching things Biden said about Afghanistan 20+ years ago, and what he says now, and how he's lied the whole time. The whole time.
I Also find it interesting that every time there's supposed dirt on trump, we end up finding he's innocent, and only to further find out the other party was involved. Russia collusion, omarosa and supposed racism, Ukraine supposed quid pro quo, and now the Stormy Daniels case which is falling apart on the democrats. Not to mention the unexplained $12 million from overseas adversaries. Seriously, and we're focused on Trump? Blows my mind.
And to see such blatent election interference on the part of Biden, just to keep Trump off the campaign trail. And ironically it's caused trumps poll numbers to climb at unprecedented levels, even in blue states! . Why? Because people are starting to see through the BS now. It's hilarious. You can't make this stuff up.
I'm neither republican nor democrat, I'm independent. But I can clearly see they're so afraid of trump and how he'll once again help our country, that they will relentlessly demonize and villianize him in the media any way they can. And even in the now two tiered system of justice that we now live in.
And I'll add this. In the bible, read John chapter 8, the woman who was caught in adultery. One theme screams off the page. And that is, if you're hell bent on hating someone, with such venomous hatred, you'll never see the real truth or even good in someone, because you've already made up your own mind. That bible passage displays so much hypocrisy on the part of those trying to crucify Him, it's not even funny. Just saying.Since you're so bent on forgiveness Trump's adultery, let me remind you that before there can be forgiveness, there has to be an admission and repentance. Have you ever heard Trump admit any wrongdoing, any at all?
As soon as Trump admits and repents, we can discuss.
Are you going to tell your sister that she wasn't raped, because her attacker was held liable "only in a civil lawsuit". Is that really where your moral compass points? It's not really a crime if, "it's only a civil lawsuit". BTW, the judge was clear in his instructions to the jury in his second trial against E. Hean Carroll; Trump raped her, and he used that word, "rape".
Trump is a career criminal who has used his wealth to insulate himself from repercussions of his actions.
"it's only a civil trial" is such a weak justification to defend a career criminal.I was not defending Trump, but just pointing out you were incorrect to imply that he was criminally convicted of the crimes you mention. You can go back to your ranting.
Huh? Maybe find some non-sociopaths to hang out with. Aggressive tax fraud is not the norm in life and business.Also known as attacking the gray areas which there is no shortage of in the current tax code. All businesses take advantage of that, it's not fraud.
Golfguy, playing through.
RufusFirefly
05-20-24, 06:02
Oh with all these comments from misguided people thinking there party's candidate is better than the other is simply hilarious and scary at the same time. When will you all get smart and realize that neither of these two candidates are qualified to be president.
I for one will not vote for either because my vote is worth more than either of these two clowns. There is a reason that the two major parties jeep it to only two viable parties and voters like you all support it.
MassageGoer
05-20-24, 07:16
I have quite a bit of knowledge when it comes to this type of scenario. A police officer can ask you simple questions, like name, birthdate, hair color, where you are going / coming room, etc. If an officer asks you something that could potentially get you into trouble, they must read you your rights first. Any information gathered before your rights are given Can be inadmissible in court. Many people do not know this. If they start asking you questions about anything That could get you into trouble, answer them. Once you refuse to answer, you look guilty and they may go ahead and cuff you.
I spent many years working in an attorneys office as well as going to law school.
While always polite, I cannot imagine why anyone would ever answer any questions from a cop. Cops passed a civil service test, they're not detectives for a reason. Patrol cops reply 99.5% of self-incrimination, because most criminals are even less clever than a cop.
I forget their handle, but there's a couple of hilarious lawyers (Chicago? Maybe Philly accent?) that constantly give advice, and every traffic stop advice video they do is basically; after you've politely provided license and registration. Shut the fuck up. They say it like 8 times in each video, they're great.
Anywho. I'm not one to tell anybody else what to do, I don't pretend to know what's best for other people. But a big smile and "I don't answer questions" is the end of my cop convos.
CautiousTed
05-20-24, 11:43
Guess you've been deaf ears to Joe Biden's dealings with his first wife and Jill "the Babysitter?" Also Joe's daughter and her writings in her diary. Etc. Trump's escapades are not innocent in any way BUT I've never heard any explanation come from Joe on his either.
Since you're so bent on forgiveness Trump's adultery, let me remind you that before there can be forgiveness, there has to be an admission and repentance. Have you ever heard Trump admit any wrongdoing, any at all?
As soon as Trump admits and repents, we can discuss.
Guess you've been deaf ears to Joe Biden's dealings with his first wife and Jill "the Babysitter?" Also Joe's daughter and her writings in her diary. Etc. Trump's escapades are not innocent in any way BUT I've never heard any explanation come from Joe on his either.Stop getting your information from the MAGA bubble. Makes you look foolish when fact checked.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9928835790
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9928835790
BSouthgate
05-20-24, 14:58
I have quite a bit of knowledge when it comes to this type of scenario. A police officer can ask you simple questions, like name, birthdate, hair color, where you are going / coming room, etc. If an officer asks you something that could potentially get you into trouble, they must read you your rights first. Any information gathered before your rights are given Can be inadmissible in court. Many people do not know this. If they start asking you questions about anything That could get you into trouble, answer them. Once you refuse to answer, you look guilty and they may go ahead and cuff you.
I spent many years working in an attorneys office as well as going to law school.You are an expert. I have had two encounters with police during fifty years practicing this delightful hobby.
First encounter:
Fifteen years ago, I parked my vehicle outside an AMP. There were two patrol cars parked in the lot. I ascended the outside stairs and knocked. The door opened. Instead of a sexy angel appearing, a young, attractive policewoman asked me, "What do you want here? I told her I came to get a Chinese foot massage. Annoyed, she asked if I had come for sexual solicitation of an employee. Was she allowed to ask this?
I did not answer her question but asked her if she had ever enjoyed Chinese foot massage. I told her the masseuses in this place were famous for their skill and that she should try. Was this a mistake on my part?
The officer appeared perplexed and did not respond. Could she have arrested and charged me at that point?
I excused myself, turned, and walked back down the stairs. Could they have arrested me for leaving?
Second encounter.
About 18 years ago, I picked up a sweet thing on a Florida highway. I drove to her spot for dates. After arriving, she provided a delightful oral massage of my bursting organ and swallowed all of my nectar. After adjusting our clothes, but before I had paid for services, I noticed a patrol car approaching in my rearview mirror. During the minutes before the officer arrived, my new friend told me to tell the police that I knew her as a friend named xx and that we had parked there to chat. The officer, a woman, asked us for I'd. Did we have to provide I'd? I think so. We did.
The officer asked me what we were doing. Should I have refused to answer?
I recited the story that my friend had told me to recite. "I ran into my friend, . On the road, and we stopped here to chat. " Was it a mistake to answer this way?
The officer said something like, "We know that all she does is prostitution, and we saw her head in your lap from the hill over there. " Was she engaging in prostitution? " I don't remember my answer, but it either was explicitly negative or implied that I would never do such a thing. Was this a mistake on my part?
The officer gave us back our I'd and told me to leave. They took my companion into custody. I never heard from her or the police after this.
I was nervous about this for several months after the incident. Would it have been likely that the police would have summoned me to court?
Did the girl's alibi help her or me?
Could you be so kind as to answer these questions?
Jayson7825
05-20-24, 15:42
I have quite a bit of knowledge when it comes to this type of scenario. A police officer can ask you simple questions, like name, birthdate, hair color, where you are going / coming room, etc. If an officer asks you something that could potentially get you into trouble, they must read you your rights first. Any information gathered before your rights are given Can be inadmissible in court. Many people do not know this. If they start asking you questions about anything That could get you into trouble, answer them. Once you refuse to answer, you look guilty and they may go ahead and cuff you.
I spent many years working in an attorneys office as well as going to law school.Then you know if I answer 72 mph when he asks me if I knew how fast I was going is 100% an admission of guilt and I never had to be mirandized before he asked that question. When it comes to cops, answer the questions you're legally obligated to answer, stick to 'I do not wish to discuss my day, under advice of my attorney and pursuant to my fifth amendment rights, I will not answer questions without them present', and then shut the f#ck up. Another very important statement, I do not consent to any searches or seizures. Even if you are being detained, make that statement. It will bite them in the ass 95% of the time.
CautiousTed
05-20-24, 21:21
Funny you have to rely on a "fact check" completed by notorious POS. You do you. The whole world knows the story and doesn't need a "fact check". It's out there. Open your own eyes.
Stop getting your information from the MAGA bubble. Makes you look foolish when fact checked.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9928835790
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9928835790.
Funny you have to rely on a "fact check" completed by notorious POS. You do you. The whole world knows the story and doesn't need a "fact check". It's out there. Open your own eyes.So what you're saying is that you weren't fooled by the false claim, but you decided to spread it anyway. So you purposely lied.
The difference between what I said about the career criminal Donald Trump, and what you said about Joe Biden, is that everything I said about Trump is true and was proven in court.
Dayann1980
05-21-24, 00:15
Take it private or the other tab. I want to know about any good nuru.
Then you know if I answer 72 mph when he asks me if I knew how fast I was going is 100% an admission of guilt and I never had to be mirandized before he asked that question. When it comes to cops, answer the questions you're legally obligated to answer, stick to 'I do not wish to discuss my day, under advice of my attorney and pursuant to my fifth amendment rights, I will not answer questions without them present', and then shut the f#ck up. Another very important statement, I do not consent to any searches or seizures. Even if you are being detained, make that statement. It will bite them in the ass 95% of the time.
Also known as attacking the gray areas which there is no shortage of in the current tax code. All businesses take advantage of that, it's not fraud.
Golfguy, playing through.Used to really respect your intelligence, Golfguy. But, wow. Your orangeman spends little time in grey. He is Mr. Fraud. All fraud, all the time. Trump University?
GoodWill123
05-21-24, 08:51
Bengal Dude, just because someone (golf Guy) disagrees with you, that doesn't mean they're not smart. You respected him up until now just because you don't know how to agree to disagree?
Couldn't we say the same about you? Are you that tainted by the fraudulent media, that you've succumbed to the lies of the liberal media (5/6 of the major news corporations are owned / operated with those with a liberal, socialist, or anti-american mindset).
You keep saying Trump committed tax fraud. Prove it. He's been attacked and villianized for years, yet he's still not in jail. And Lord knows it's not without lacking effort. And he's being tried in pro-democrat, anti -trump environments, and they still haven't convicted him. Talk about lack of fair trial.
I'm just saying, you've already convicted him, and the trials against him keep falling apart on their own. The democrats star witness, Cohen, just admitted yesterday he'd been stealing thousands from Trump. And he admitted to Costello Trump knew nothing about the stormy Daniels payment. Then changed his story, twice! And Biden, Mr fraudulent himself still hasn't explained Burisma, is claiming he's lowered inflation from like 9% when he "took office" (lmfao) to what it is now, and the border is secure, and the economy's doing great, and continues to stoke the racism flames like he did at the commencement this past weekend. People of many backgrounds are disgusted with what he said, and using a commencement address to bash other's for political gain. And he continues to lie about Afghanistan. I come from a military family. Virtually no one in our armed forces trusts him. I've yet to meet one. And you want to focus on Trump?
Look you can hold whatever opinion you want of Trump if you hate him that much. But before you go telling others they're stupid just because they disagree with you, I suggest you yourself look inward at your own hypocrisy, because there's plenty of "fraud" within the ranks of the other side that's being ignored here. Just saying.
Used to really respect your intelligence, Golfguy. But, wow. Your orangeman spends little time in grey. He is Mr. Fraud. All fraud, all the time. Trump University?
BarnesMike32
05-21-24, 09:03
Used to really respect your intelligence, Golfguy. But, wow. Your orangeman spends little time in grey. He is Mr. Fraud. All fraud, all the time. Trump University?Bengalman.
You forgot Trump Foundation.
Mike B.
You keep saying Trump committed tax fraud. Prove it.It already was proven, in court, and he was fined almost $400,000,000.
He is also on trial for business fraud to hide campaign finance fraud; a two-fer, in a CRIMINAL case.
Trump committed crimes, and that has been proven in court, which is a higher bar than being proven in the court of public opinion.
I get this is the place to debate, but no one is going to change anyone's mind. At all.
We're all on the same team looking for pussy. If you're democrat then go fuck a republican in the ass, if you republican then bareback a democrat; take your resentment out there.
We can argue politics anywhere so lets focus on using this site to help each other get laid.
That's no reason to say anything. If you do, while they can't use the specific thing you say against you in court, they can seek other evidence to prove what you tell them.
In other words, always STFU!
I have quite a bit of knowledge when it comes to this type of scenario. A police officer can ask you simple questions, like name, birthdate, hair color, where you are going / coming room, etc. If an officer asks you something that could potentially get you into trouble, they must read you your rights first. Any information gathered before your rights are given Can be inadmissible in court. Many people do not know this. If they start asking you questions about anything That could get you into trouble, answer them. Once you refuse to answer, you look guilty and they may go ahead and cuff you.
I spent many years working in an attorneys office as well as going to law school.
I get this is the place to debate, but no one is going to change anyone's mind. At all.
We're all on the same team looking for pussy. If you're democrat then go fuck a republican in the ass, if you republican then bareback a democrat; take your resentment out there.
We can argue politics anywhere so lets focus on using this site to help each other get laid.
I'd sit on my wife's left hand for half that.I'm quoting your reply from the other section where you offer to get fisted by your wife. That's what its going to take here. Actually sitting on your wife's left hand for them! LOL.
I get this is the place to debate, but no one is going to change anyone's mind. At all.
We're all on the same team looking for pussy. If you're democrat then go fuck a republican in the ass, if you republican then bareback a democrat; take your resentment out there.
We can argue politics anywhere so lets focus on using this site to help each other get laid.I could never vote for COMMUNIST Joe. The only possible way that I might, if I was smoking crack and that will never happen. So let the commie crack heads have him. Commie Joe has been a piece of Shit is whole life and will die a piece of Shit. To prove he is a piece of Shit, is that he shit's himself on a daily basis. Karma got to love it.
I have quite a bit of knowledge when it comes to this type of scenario. A police officer can ask you simple questions, like name, birthdate, hair color, where you are going / coming room, etc. If an officer asks you something that could potentially get you into trouble, they must read you your rights first. Any information gathered before your rights are given Can be inadmissible in court. Many people do not know this. If they start asking you questions about anything That could get you into trouble, answer them. Once you refuse to answer, you look guilty and they may go ahead and cuff you.
I spent many years working in an attorneys office as well as going to law school.I recommend getting a refund on that law school. Miranda only applies to custodial interrogation. If you're walking on the street and the cop says "hey, did you kill anyone today?" and you answer "yes, I killed bob and his body is over behind those cans", that entire statement is coming in to evidence, as well as the hidden body you directed them to. If the cop stops you, cuffs you and then says "did you kill anyone today? They have to mirandize you and any statements you make (and evidence obtained from the statements) are subject to being suppressed as violations of the 4th and 5th Amendments if they do not. At least this is what my very expensive attorney has told me.
I'm quoting your reply from the other section where you offer to get fisted by your wife. That's what its going to take here. Actually sitting on your wife's left hand for them! LOL.That got harsh quick. The Stranger? Where you sit on your hand to numb it, or in this case numb my old lady's hand for her to jerk me off.
Go back to arguing, fewer mongers out to compete with.
I could never vote for COMMUNIST Joe. The only possible way that I might, if I was smoking crack and that will never happen. So let the commie crack heads have him. Commie Joe has been a piece of Shit is whole life and will die a piece of Shit. To prove he is a piece of Shit, is that he shit's himself on a daily basis. Karma got to love it.Define "communism" and show examples of policies by Joe Biden which match the definition of "communism".
IdleHands1
05-21-24, 20:04
I have quite a bit of knowledge when it comes to this type of scenario. A police officer can ask you simple questions, like name, birthdate, hair color, where you are going / coming room, etc. If an officer asks you something that could potentially get you into trouble, they must read you your rights first. Any information gathered before your rights are given Can be inadmissible in court. Many people do not know this. If they start asking you questions about anything That could get you into trouble, answer them. Once you refuse to answer, you look guilty and they may go ahead and cuff you.
I spent many years working in an attorneys office as well as going to law school.What is, do not answer any questions, ever, ever, ever.
Define "communism" and show examples of policies by Joe Biden which match the definition of "communism".For starters let's go with his State run COMMUNIST propaganda news Media. It only report's what the Party allows. If you can't figure out the rest then go take another hit off your crack pipe.
BSouthgate
05-21-24, 21:53
I recommend getting a refund on that law school. Miranda only applies to custodial interrogation. If you're walking on the street and the cop says "hey, did you kill anyone today?" and you answer "yes, I killed bob and his body is over behind those cans", that entire statement is coming in to evidence, as well as the hidden body you directed them to. If the cop stops you, cuffs you and then says "did you kill anyone today? They have to mirandize you and any statements you make (and evidence obtained from the statements) are subject to being suppressed as violations of the 4th and 5th Amendments if they do not. At least this is what my very expensive attorney has told me.You are an expert. I have had two encounters with police during fifty years practicing this delightful hobby.
First encounter:
Fifteen years ago, I parked my vehicle outside an AMP. There were two patrol cars parked in the lot. I ascended the outside stairs and knocked. The door opened. Instead of a sexy angel appearing, a young, attractive policewoman asked me, "What do you want here? I told her I came to get a Chinese foot massage. Annoyed, she asked if I had come for sexual solicitation of an employee. Was she allowed to ask this?
I did not answer her question but asked her if she had ever enjoyed Chinese foot massage. I told her the masseuses in this place were famous for their skill and that she should try. Was this a mistake on my part?
The officer appeared perplexed and did not respond. Could she have arrested and charged me at that point?
I excused myself, turned, and walked back down the stairs. Could they have arrested me for leaving?
Second encounter.
About 18 years ago, I picked up a sweet thing on a Florida highway. I drove to her spot for dates. After arriving, she provided a delightful oral massage of my bursting organ and swallowed all of my nectar. After adjusting our clothes, but before I had paid for services, I noticed a patrol car approaching in my rearview mirror. During the minutes before the officer arrived, my new friend told me to tell the police that I knew her as a friend named xx and that we had parked there to chat. The officer, a woman, asked us for I'd. Did we have to provide I'd? I think so. We did.
The officer asked me what we were doing. Should I have refused to answer?
I recited the story that my friend had told me to recite. "I ran into my friend, . On the road, and we stopped here to chat. " Was it a mistake to answer this way?
The officer said something like, "We know that all she does is prostitution, and we saw her head in your lap from the hill over there. " Was she engaging in prostitution? " I don't remember my answer, but it either was explicitly negative or implied that I would never do such a thing. Was this a mistake on my part?
The officer gave us back our I'd and told me to leave. They took my companion into custody. I never heard from her or the police after this.
I was nervous about this for several months after the incident. Would it have been likely that the police would have summoned me to court?
Did the girl's alibi help her or me?
Could you be so kind as to answer these questions?
Define "communism" and show examples of policies by Joe Biden which match the definition of "communism"."Communism", among other things, is a system in which wealth is shared and the government owns the means of production. Biden's desires for free education, free healthcare, free cellphones, free housing for migrants, etc, etc could certainly be considered socialistic, if not communistic, because they necessitate taking assets from the people to "share" the wealth. Works real well in Russia, doesn't it?
I thought this was a vagina forum.
No matter what is said here is going to change anything.
Biden is a puppet, someone is whispering in his hear when the tv screen is displaying what he is to say.
Trump needs to just shut the hell up before he speaks and think what about the hell is saying.
Not a fan of either to be honest, but in reality, who should or would be the best in the future? Say 2028.
Surprised Biden had made it this far in life. Let alone a 2nd term ii he was to win and Trump statistically will win in my opinion.
My pick would be Rand Paul if he was to run if you are a D or are, he is a smart man.
"Communism", among other things, is a system in which wealth is shared and the government owns the means of production. Biden's desires for free education, free healthcare, free cellphones, free housing for migrants, etc, etc could certainly be considered socialistic, if not communistic, because they necessitate taking assets from the people to "share" the wealth. Works real well in Russia, doesn't it?So now he's "socialistic", after you put in all caps that he was a communist. How much googling did you do to try to find something, anything, no matter how tenuous, to indicate Joe Biden was a communist?
Free healthcare, free education, etc. Is not socialistic. It's how a lot of first world democratic economies around the world function. Pay taxes, and the government give you access to stuff; healthcare, education, roads, a common defense, a system of trade, etc.
Care to try again? Cite specific instances where Joe Biden pushed communist ideals or policy. (none of what you mentioned indicates communism, but just government programs that exist in other democracies).
I could never vote for COMMUNIST Joe. The only possible way that I might, if I was smoking crack and that will never happen. So let the commie crack heads have him. Commie Joe has been a piece of Shit is whole life and will die a piece of Shit. To prove he is a piece of Shit, is that he shit's himself on a daily basis. Karma got to love it.I totally agree. Commie Joe is a piece of Shit. It is definitely Karma that he shits himself. What make it Karma is that he does it in front of they entire world to see. The funny thing too is that when the person changing his diaper her probably blames Trump for putting the Shit in his diaper.
MassageGoer
05-22-24, 09:14
You're telling me that I should get a refund, but yet you said exactly what I said in a different way. Anything that is said prior to be reading your rights Can be thrown out because it was obtained illegally by the police. Hell, they can witness you do something, have all of the evidence right in front of you but if they question you and any confession made before they mirandize you, is a violation of the 6th Amendment. Once the rights have been read, then shut up.
I recommend getting a refund on that law school. Miranda only applies to custodial interrogation. If you're walking on the street and the cop says "hey, did you kill anyone today?" and you answer "yes, I killed bob and his body is over behind those cans", that entire statement is coming in to evidence, as well as the hidden body you directed them to. If the cop stops you, cuffs you and then says "did you kill anyone today? They have to mirandize you and any statements you make (and evidence obtained from the statements) are subject to being suppressed as violations of the 4th and 5th Amendments if they do not. At least this is what my very expensive attorney has told me.
Take it private or the other tab. I want to know about any good nuru.I think I've read enough legal advice on this forum. Move it elsewhere.
On a forum related note, I visited spring spa for the first time this weekend. Saw li li. She was gorgeous and provided a great massage and even better service. I can't wait to see her again. I don't know if she's always working there, but she will definitely keep me coming back.
BarnesMike32
05-23-24, 06:57
So now he's "socialistic", after you put in all caps that he was a communist. How much googling did you do to try to find something, anything, no matter how tenuous, to indicate Joe Biden was a communist?
Free healthcare, free education, etc. Is not socialistic. It's how a lot of first world democratic economies around the world function. Pay taxes, and the government give you access to stuff; healthcare, education, roads, a common defense, a system of trade, etc.
Care to try again? Cite specific instances where Joe Biden pushed communist ideals or policy. (none of what you mentioned indicates communism, but just government programs that exist in other democracies).It baffles me how anyone could not like where our country is today, as opposed to four years ago. Joe has done a fine job of righting the ship. How many of Trump's own stooges have been convicted of crimes, many by his own DOJ (Manafort, Bannon, Gates, Stone, Flynn, etc.)? How many former advisors tell us that he's a nut and that we should not vote for him? (Bolton, John Kelly, McMaster, Grisham, Esper, Mattis, Ty Cobb, etc.) The willingness of his acolytes to turn a blind eye amazes me. To them, the ends justify the means, even if the ends are not worthy goals to begin with.
It's looking all QSASG. Nl in here, JFC.
(Almost) nobody wants Joe Biden to be President for any reason other than it will keep the Felonious Cheeto out of office. I hear "but what about Biden XYZ Hunters laptop Hillarys emails Pizzagate". Stop. Trump took away my ability to show my dissatisfaction with any of that (at least with my vote) the day he tried a soft coup on live television. Now I have to use my vote to keep the fascist out of office. He's enabled literal nazis, condoned election fraud, and threatened to do whole January 6th thing over again. And if you like paying for pussy (and it's weird that you're here if you don't), Trump should be the last guy you want, not because he's particularly anti-prostitute, but he damn sure won't reign in fundamentalist state governments that are. So sure, if you want the only providers to be the ones desperate enough to risk ridiculous prison sentences or worse, by all means, vote Orange. LOL.
FitAndHung
05-23-24, 10:54
It baffles me how anyone could not like where our country is today, as opposed to four years ago. Joe has done a fine job of righting the ship. How many of Trump's own stooges have been convicted of crimes, many by his own DOJ (Manafort, Bannon, Gates, Stone, Flynn, etc.)? How many former advisors tell us that he's a nut and that we should not vote for him? (Bolton, John Kelly, McMaster, Grisham, Esper, Mattis, Ty Cobb, etc.) The willingness of his acolytes to turn a blind eye amazes me. To them, the ends justify the means, even if the ends are not worthy goals to begin with.I don't normally comment on this stuff but couldn't let this one pass.
BarnesMike32, can you name one specific metric by which the country is better off today than four years ago? Not conjecture or name calling, specific data.
Here are a few ideas for you to get started.
-Immigration, are we better off? Safer? Fewer illegals? Less in the way of drugs in the country?
-Fuel and energy prices? Gas cheaper for you? Is it less to heat and cool your house??
-Interest rates. Are they lower than four years ago? Is housing more affordable??
-Inflation. Are milk and eggs cheaper? Trips to the grocery store less expensive than four years ago?
-Countries at war...World peace... Is the Ukraine better off? Israel better off? The world is experiencing less turmoil? Is the US spending more or less on foreign aid? How many wars was the Trump administration involved in funding?
-Crime. Are cities safer? Criminals are being sent to prison more often? Prosecutors are tough on crime? Things are better in our cities??
-Spending and National debt. Are we spending less? There are fewer giveaways? Paying off other's student loans is something you support?
I am not suggesting Trump prevented or didn't participate in spending etc. He did. What I am asking is how are you, or how is anyone better off today as the result of the policies of this administration.
Have I personally done well? Yes, I have. I've done well since I started a business 30 years ago. Throughout all administrations and in spite of some. But the VAST majority of Americans are worse off in every metric.
I can't think of a single thing that has improved in the last four years.
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Russia hasn't been a communist state for while now.
"Communism", among other things, is a system in which wealth is shared and the government owns the means of production. Biden's desires for free education, free healthcare, free cellphones, free housing for migrants, etc, etc could certainly be considered socialistic, if not communistic, because they necessitate taking assets from the people to "share" the wealth. Works real well in Russia, doesn't it?
I don't normally comment on this stuff but couldn't let this one pass.Funny, I feel the same way.
BarnesMike32, can you name one specific metric by which the country is better off today than four years ago? Not conjecture or name calling, specific data.I'm not Mike, but I have some answers for you.
Here are a few ideas for you to get started.
-Immigration, are we better off? Safer? Fewer illegals? Less in the way of drugs in the country?This is probably Biden's weakest department, granted, but Trump is also bad in different ways. Making it bloody impossible to seek asylum here isn't the answer.
-Fuel and energy prices? Gas cheaper for you? Is it less to heat and cool your house??
-Interest rates. Are they lower than four years ago? Is housing more affordable??Are you really asking us to compare the Covid economy to what's happening today? Apples and oranges (no pun intended), plus Presidential administrations really don't have a ton of control over energy prices, and they're not supposed to have that much control over interest rates. Also, you know who I don't want in charge of picking the people who do make those choices? The guy who bankrupted multiple casinos and got charged with inflating his net worth for a better rate on the money he was borrowing to keep multiple failing ventures afloat. That's not a choice.
-Inflation. Are milk and eggs cheaper? Trips to the grocery store less expensive than four years ago?No trips to the grocery store are not less expensive than when everyone was on house arrest and scared out of their minds to go to the store in the first place. Also, again, hard to pin down or separate how much of this is due to the whole economy being cracked four years ago, or what Trump did previously. You seem like a smart guy. I'm sure you understand that some economic trends are long enough to cross Presidential administrations.
-Countries at war...World peace... Is the Ukraine better off? Israel better off? The world is experiencing less turmoil? Is the US spending more or less on foreign aid? How many wars was the Trump administration involved in funding?Are you suggesting that Ukraine wouldn't have been invaded under Trump in a second term? I would absolutely love to hear the rationale for that conclusion, given that Trump has more or less volunteered that he wouldn't aid them much, if at all. Blaming Biden for any of this, particularly Ukraine, is a real stretch.
-Crime. Are cities safer? Criminals are being sent to prison more often? Prosecutors are tough on crime? Things are better in our cities??This also has zero to do with the Presidency, come on. Neither of these guys has a measurable effect on crime in either direction. Trump campaigns on it to scare old white people into voting for him, but there hasn't been a statistical dent or increase in crime that we could trace back to a President since Clinton, and suffice it to say, that was not a dent that was particularly ethical. Now, hate crime, on the other hand, might be a different story. I think I could make an argument that Trump has enabled quite a bit of that sort of thing. Reasonable people could probably disagree on that, but if you're asking if I feel safer or less safe now than I felt under Trump, Obama, Clinton, or Bush, the answer is a resounding "no".
-Spending and National debt. Are we spending less? There are fewer giveaways? Paying off other's student loans is something you support?
I am not suggesting Trump prevented or didn't participate in spending etc. He did. What I am asking is how are you, or how is anyone better off today as the result of the policies of this administration.LOL. Neither party has ever been serious about curbing spending. Stop it. Trump out-deficited everyone that preceded him. The unbalanced tax cuts alone added trillions, and will have a much longer tail than either candidate will live to see, more than likely. "Giveaways": I'm going to need to you to point to the free stuff and tell me how it hurt you or the economy personally. As for student loans, I'm all for canceling as many of those as we can. That interest is a *massive* drag on the consumer economy. Whether its fair or not (though I would argue it is) isn't really the point if we're looking at this as a pair of business owners (and we are).
Have I personally done well? Yes, I have. I've done well since I started a business 30 years ago. Throughout all administrations and in spite of some. But the VAST majority of Americans are worse off in every metric.
I can't think of a single thing that has improved in the last four years.Allow me:
Historically low unemployment (debatable whether Biden gets any / all the credit for this, but it is measurably miles better than four years ago).
Historically high rates of health insurance coverage (Trump has threatened to undo this).
We're not quarantined.
The dumbest trade war in recent memory, and arguably ever, is over. (This was ALL Trump).
Stock market is booming (again, not really a President thing, but it is improved over four years ago; recent record closes on the Dow, Nasdaq and S&P).
I'll also add that democracy is still mostly intact, despite the last guys best efforts to undo it. Hope this helps!
FitAndHung
05-23-24, 12:53
Funny, I feel the same way.
I'm not Mike, but I have some answers for you.
This is probably Biden's weakest department, granted, but Trump is also bad in different ways. Making it bloody impossible to seek asylum here isn't the answer.
Are you really asking us to compare the Covid economy to what's happening today? Apples and oranges (no pun intended), plus Presidential administrations really don't have a ton of control over energy prices, and they're not supposed to have that much control over interest rates. Also, you know who I don't want in charge of picking the people who do make those choices? The guy who bankrupted multiple casinos and got charged with inflating his net worth for a better rate on the money he was borrowing to keep multiple failing ventures afloat. That's not a choice.
No trips to the grocery store are not less expensive than when everyone was on house arrest and scared out of their minds to go to the store in the first place. Also, again, hard to pin down or separate how much of this is due to the whole economy being cracked four years ago, or what Trump did previously. You seem like a smart guy. I'm sure you understand that some economic trends are long enough to cross Presidential administrations.
Are you suggesting that Ukraine wouldn't have been invaded under Trump in a second term? I would absolutely love to hear the rationale for that conclusion, given that Trump has more or less volunteered that he wouldn't aid them much, if at all. Blaming Biden for any of this, particularly Ukraine, is a real stretch.
This also has zero to do with the Presidency, come on. Neither of these guys has a measurable effect on crime in either direction. Trump campaigns on it to scare old white people into voting for him, but there hasn't been a statistical dent or increase in crime that we could trace back to a President since Clinton, and suffice it to say, that was not a dent that was particularly ethical. Now, hate crime, on the other hand, might be a different story. I think I could make an argument that Trump has enabled quite a bit of that sort of thing. Reasonable people could probably disagree on that, but if you're asking if I feel safer or less safe now than I felt under Trump, Obama, Clinton, or Bush, the answer is a resounding "no".
LOL. Neither party has ever been serious about curbing spending. Stop it. Trump out-deficited everyone that preceded him. The unbalanced tax cuts alone added trillions, and will have a much longer tail than either candidate will live to see, more than likely. "Giveaways": I'm going to need to you to point to the free stuff and tell me how it hurt you or the economy personally. As for student loans, I'm all for canceling as many of those as we can. That interest is a *massive* drag on the consumer economy. Whether its fair or not (though I would argue it is) isn't really the point if we're looking at this as a pair of business owners (and we are).
Allow me:
Historically low unemployment (debatable whether Biden gets any / all the credit for this, but it is measurably miles better than four years ago).
Historically high rates of health insurance coverage (Trump has threatened to undo this).
We're not quarantined.
The dumbest trade war in recent memory, and arguably ever, is over. (This was ALL Trump).
Stock market is booming (again, not really a President thing, but it is improved over four years ago; recent record closes on the Dow, Nasdaq and S&P).
I'll also add that democracy is still mostly intact, despite the last guys best efforts to undo it. Hope this helps!First the comments about Trump inflating properties etc. , bankruptcy and whatever are debatable, as you and I only know what is reported in the 99.9% liberal media. That has nothing to do with policies his administration employed. You really want to open that can of worms? Biden and his influence peddling? Tens of millions of dollars flowing to the Biden family for no discernable reason other than influence? Again, lets keep it strictly on policy. Please give me specific policies the Biden admin has proposed and adopted that have made this county "better" in any metric.
Okay. I am not comparing the Covid economy to today. Look at the data pre-Covid. Historic job growth, wage growth and low unemployment. Take out 2020-2021. I'm not blaming Biden or Trump for Covid. Compare pre-Covid to a year or two post covid.
Covid is long over. Grocery prices are high in part because of energy prices. See my comment below.
Yes, energy policies of administrations absolutely impact energy pricing. Granted they are also impacted by world events and demand. The Biden admin has been the most restrictive admin as far as domestic energy policy in decades. How is that good for the US consumer? How is that good for US energy independence? What was the price of a barrel of oil in 2019? The US was a net exporter, I. E. -more supply.
Democracy is intact?? What does that mean and what specific policies did the prior administration adopt that restricted democracy?
It has slowly come to light that the Biden administration has closely worked with social media to influence the outcome of the election. Recall the Hunter Biden laptop? Guess what, it was real and it was indeed intentionally suppressed. How is democracy sustained when government actively is involved in disseminating information before it gets to the general public?
How is democracy intact when the press coordinates with the White House as far as what is reported?
This whole premise that somehow Trump was horrible for democracy is so completely absurd I cannot believe its being repeated. He was the president for four years.
Can you name one specific policy the Trump administration enacted or embraced that somehow "limited democracy". Please be specific. No January 6th was not a policy of the Trump administration.
Did we not have a normal transfer of power? Biden took office just as any other president elect in the past, contrary to what the press wants you to beleive.
I absolutely believe the world was more stable under the Trump admin. This isn't a belief, it is a fact. Foreign policy isn't based on one statement a president makes, it is evident in the results an administration has. Facts are pesky things. Did Russia invade while Trump was president? Did Hamas attack Israel while Trump was president? Again, what is, is. The facts are what they are. The world was much safer vs now. No argument to the contrary can be made otherwise.
Let me explain something to you about immigration and our republic and how unchecked immigration is the antithesis of a democracy.
Ever heard of the census? Do you know what determines our house of representatives? 435 members of the house are based on population. Guess where the population data comes from? Census.
Okay, stay with me here. The census counts people. Not citizens. Look it up. So. With the massive influx of illegals, the census numbers are significantly impacted when illegals are counted. This results in the more liberal states gaining seats in the house. California, Illinois, New York. This is by design, its not an accident. The Biden admin and democrats need source of new votes and its coming in the form of illegals who are banking on amnesty- enabling them to vote.
Biden is the defacto head of the democrat party. All over the US democrat prosecutors are responsible for prosecuting crime. No, Biden isn't directly responsible for local prosecutions, but democrats are. Pick any major city in the US and look at who controls the city. Look at crime and education. Again, facts are pesky. Democrat controlled cities are far far worse off in the way of crime and shitty education. Look at Cincinnati. The county commission and City council are all democrats. How's that working out for taxes, crime and the roads? Our city is doomed!
Anyway I have to get back to work.
BSouthgate
05-24-24, 15:33
So now he's "socialistic", after you put in all caps that he was a communist. How much googling did you do to try to find something, anything, no matter how tenuous, to indicate Joe Biden was a communist?
Free healthcare, free education, etc. Is not socialistic. It's how a lot of first world democratic economies around the world function. Pay taxes, and the government give you access to stuff; healthcare, education, roads, a common defense, a system of trade, etc.
Care to try again? Cite specific instances where Joe Biden pushed communist ideals or policy. (none of what you mentioned indicates communism, but just government programs that exist in other democracies).D Nut is right. Biden is neither a socialist nor a communist. Like the orange turd, he is controlled by political lobbies and corporations. The US political system is less democratic than the Russian one. What choice do we have?
BSouthgate
05-24-24, 15:35
It baffles me how anyone could not like where our country is today, as opposed to four years ago. Joe has done a fine job of righting the ship. How many of Trump's own stooges have been convicted of crimes, many by his own DOJ (Manafort, Bannon, Gates, Stone, Flynn, etc.)? How many former advisors tell us that he's a nut and that we should not vote for him? (Bolton, John Kelly, McMaster, Grisham, Esper, Mattis, Ty Cobb, etc.) The willingness of his acolytes to turn a blind eye amazes me. To them, the ends justify the means, even if the ends are not worthy goals to begin with.And he has facilitated and supported genocide in the middle east and a useless war in Europe.
BSouthgate
05-24-24, 15:40
First the comments about Trump inflating properties etc. , bankruptcy and whatever are debatable, as you and I only know what is reported in the 99.9% liberal media. That has nothing to do with policies his administration employed. You really want to open that can of worms? Biden and his influence peddling? Tens of millions of dollars flowing to the Biden family for no discernable reason other than influence? Again, lets keep it strictly on policy. Please give me specific policies the Biden admin has proposed and adopted that have made this county "better" in any metric.
Okay. I am not comparing the Covid economy to today. Look at the data pre-Covid. Historic job growth, wage growth and low unemployment. Take out 2020-2021. I'm not blaming Biden or Trump for Covid. Compare pre-Covid to a year or two post covid.
Covid is long over. Grocery prices are high in part because of energy prices. See my comment below.
Yes, energy policies of administrations absolutely impact energy pricing. Granted they are also impacted by world events and demand. The Biden admin has been the most restrictive admin as far as domestic energy policy in decades. How is that good for the US consumer? How is that good for US energy independence? What was the price of a barrel of oil in 2019? The US was a net exporter, I. E. -more supply..Twenty years ago, I could afford more than one visit to the AMP per week. Today. Once per month. We need a revolution.
Smokey Gringo
05-25-24, 00:18
EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT BIDEN AND TRUMP.
The guy who started this shit is Golfguy, who I used to respect until I saw A2 chided him for being a shit stirrer. And true to form, if you look at his most recent posts he responded to the massage section for someone asking for a good massage and Golfguy suggested what has been largely reported as a trans person.
Stop the derision.
If you want anymore proof I now live in Hamilton and had a fucking street walker pop up on my porch and we all know my history with that, but I talked to her, had a beer like people and told old Alphatek1 about her (even though I have yet to run into her again) and will get her info for him.
NEW TOPIC:
Let's talk about the fact that no fucking girls want to do outcall and want to lay their useless stank asses in a roach coach and make and take as much money as possible in a day. And all you fucktards willingly lie to your wives about got to run an errand, or get gas, or whatever and will follow dude after dude dropping load after load in her and the slag ja still broke come Tuesday. And thy way want to charge more!
They could drive around all day and only need one tank of gas and it would be cheaper than a fucking hotel room.
Todd Cincy
05-28-24, 21:21
When I started hobbying, outcall was the default mode.
Now, in 2024, we have to:
-Pay double the 2019 rate.
-Send an electronic deposit.
-Drive to a hotel in an inconvenient location, at an inconvenient time.
I have to wonder how many hobbyists have simply stopped spending their money on these girls?
Let's talk about the fact that no fucking girls want to do outcall and want to lay their useless stank asses in a roach coach and make and take as much money as possible in a day. And all you fucktards willingly lie to your wives about got to run an errand, or get gas, or whatever and will follow dude after dude dropping load after load in her and the slag ja still broke come Tuesday. And thy way want to charge more!
They could drive around all day and only need one tank of gas and it would be cheaper than a fucking hotel room.
RufusFirefly
05-29-24, 06:12
I agree that the cost of this hobby has gone up to the point I pay for quality and do it less. After all the price of fast food has doubled since 2019.
Many of these ladies do not own a car or cannot drive so they cannot come to you.
When I started hobbying, outcall was the default mode.
Now, in 2024, we have to:
-Pay double the 2019 rate.
-Send an electronic deposit.
-Drive to a hotel in an inconvenient location, at an inconvenient time.
I have to wonder how many hobbyists have simply stopped spending their money on these girls?
UOnlyLiveOnce
05-29-24, 06:14
When I started hobbying, outcall was the default mode.
Now, in 2024, we have to:
-Pay double the 2019 rate.
-Send an electronic deposit.
-Drive to a hotel in an inconvenient location, at an inconvenient time.
I have to wonder how many hobbyists have simply stopped spending their money on these girls?So far in 2024, I have seen only one chick. Have tried to see a few others, but didn't because of poor communication or them being in a really sketchy part of town. I never did outcall before COVID, and I definitely won't now because of most requiring deposits for outcall.
Smokey Gringo
05-29-24, 20:24
I agree that the cost of this hobby has gone up to the point I pay for quality and do it less. After all the price of fast food has doubled since 2019.
Many of these ladies do not own a car or cannot drive so they cannot come to you.They can pay a driver. Or with the money the make they can buy a car, at worst a beater, or absolutely afford to have whatever car repaired. A fucking buy here pay here lot for Christ sakes. I know for a fact because I had to help one of the yesteryear chicks how to invest $30,000. My vitriol isn't aimed at you Rufus, it's just the absolute tax free fucking money these chicks can make if they apply themselves. Is stupid.
Hillbilly Bob
05-29-24, 22:40
They can pay a driver. Or with the money the make they can buy a car, at worst a beater, or absolutely afford to have whatever car repaired. A fucking buy here pay here lot for Christ sakes. I know for a fact because I had to help one of the yesteryear chicks how to invest $30,000. My vitriol isn't aimed at you Rufus, it's just the absolute tax free fucking money these chicks can make if they apply themselves. Is stupid.They want you to get them a Uber to come to you for outcall. Not sures about you guys but when I worked never did my employer provide me a ride to get to work.
For the price they want they can put the bill for a uber. Maybe just me but I won't pay for a ride period. HB.
They can pay a driver. Or with the money the make they can buy a car, at worst a beater, or absolutely afford to have whatever car repaired. A fucking buy here pay here lot for Christ sakes. I know for a fact because I had to help one of the yesteryear chicks how to invest $30,000. My vitriol isn't aimed at you Rufus, it's just the absolute tax free fucking money these chicks can make if they apply themselves. Is stupid.I agree with you in theory, Gringo. But you have to keep in mind that many of them don't have a driver's license because they fucked up sometime in the past (DUI, etc). And even if they could afford an old junker, they have to insure it and they have to buy gas, both of which keep going up, up, up. And as far as "if they apply themselves" goes, many of them are simply incapable of doing that. They come from shitty homes and backgrounds where they were never taught anything about money and the "family" (if that's what you want to call it) lived day-to-day. Most of them were never in an environment where they could develop basic, common sense.
RufusFirefly
05-30-24, 06:48
I find it funny that you state your vitriol is not directed at me but it was a direct reply to my comment. But after reading your reply and looking at the logic you use I can see that you may not see that you were direction that to my comment.
So because you met one lady that was either successful or maybe was gifted or won a large sum of money you believe all these ladies are spreading money on their beds and rolling in it after we leave. I will say most of these ladies probably more wonder how they are going to pay the rent. So they cannot afford to buy a car, maintenance, insurance, registration, and gas.
Like said before because of their past decisions they cannot have a license. And then there are the current addicts that you do not want driving. Some of these ladies have mental or emotional illnesses that would make it better if they did not drive.
Do yourself a favor get to know these ladies and do not generalize because just like us they are people and no two are exactly alike.
They can pay a driver. Or with the money the make they can buy a car, at worst a beater, or absolutely afford to have whatever car repaired. A fucking buy here pay here lot for Christ sakes. I know for a fact because I had to help one of the yesteryear chicks how to invest $30,000. My vitriol isn't aimed at you Rufus, it's just the absolute tax free fucking money these chicks can make if they apply themselves. Is stupid.
RufusFirefly
05-30-24, 07:11
So I read many comments about how some of these ladies do not have good business sense which I will admit some do not. Then I read comments from mongers complaining about ladies having good business practices.
So you complain if a lady only provides incall but do you realize she can make more money with in call. She can charge almost as much as outcall. She does not have to spend the time driving which a round trip would add 30 min to 1 hour to her service. Oh and then there is the added cist of transportation. Only to find out some monger is not there. Oh and do not forget they are less secure when they are on an outcall.
So the reason there are more deposits required is times are changing so their business has to change. First there is the easy of getting paid through apps. How many fast-food places offer specials only on their app. When you reserve a car or a hotel room you pay a deposit. These ladies charge deposits because many mongers never show up. Oh yes I know you do not believe me because mongers never report that they made an appointment and did not show up and did not reply to the lady. They only tell you that they got ghosted.
If you do not like to go to the lady do not go. No one is forcing you. If you do not want to pay a deposit do not pay a deposit. No one is forcing you. But you will enjoy the hobby more if you learn more about it. One thing I learned is that most of these ladies will treat you really good if you treat them like a lady or a person. Get to know a little about them and you might learn something.
Todd Cincy
05-30-24, 08:10
I agree with you in theory, Gringo. But you have to keep in mind that many of them don't have a driver's license because they fucked up sometime in the past (DUI, etc). And even if they could afford an old junker, they have to insure it and they have to buy gas, both of which keep going up, up, up. And as far as "if they apply themselves" goes, many of them are simply incapable of doing that. They come from shitty homes and backgrounds where they were never taught anything about money and the "family" (if that's what you want to call it) lived day-to-day. Most of them were never in an environment where they could develop basic, common sense.When I started dabbling with the hobby (1990's), almost all of the higher-end escorts were associated with agencies.
The agencies had a rule: first appointment at a residence attached to your name. When the girl arrived, often she made you produce either a.) a DL with that address, or b.) a utility bill at that address with your name on it.
The agencies had a "system": they hired drivers for the girls who didn't have transportation. The agency owners also provided protection for the girls, at least to some degree. They could tell a new girl, "This guy you're going to see tonight, lots of girls have been to his house, so you'll have no problems. ".
The agencies also saw the outcall-at-residence practice as a way of protecting themselves. One agency owner told me, "When LE sets up a sting, they always want you to come to a hotel. ".
Over the years, local reliable agencies have become fewer and fewer. It's the Wild West out there now.
Just before the pandemic, I noticed that about half of the indies expected you to come to a hotel.
That *used to be* something that only lower-end girls did. But now the girls charging $500/ hour also expect you to drive to them, and the percentage with this expectation is closer to 80%.
I much prefer the old system. I realize there were disadvantages to the agency system; but I never had a problem. And I used the agencies for *years*, off-and-on.
Even as recently as 2019, I preferred using Discreet Desires and Fantasys because I could get a reliable experience at my house without having to drive to Sharonville or Covington for an uncertain situation with an unvetted party.
When I started dabbling with the hobby (1990's), almost all of the higher-end escorts were associated with agencies.
The agencies had a rule: first appointment at a residence attached to your name. When the girl arrived, often she made you produce either a.) a DL with that address, or b.) a utility bill at that address with your name on it.
The agencies had a "system": they hired drivers for the girls who didn't have transportation. The agency owners also provided protection for the girls, at least to some degree. They could tell a new girl, "This guy you're going to see tonight, lots of girls have been to his house, so you'll have no problems. ".
The agencies also saw the outcall-at-residence practice as a way of protecting themselves. One agency owner told me, "When LE sets up a sting, they always want you to come to a hotel. ".
Over the years, local reliable agencies have become fewer and fewer. It's the Wild West out there now.
Just before the pandemic, I noticed that about half of the indies expected you to come to a hotel.
That *used to be* something that only lower-end girls did. But now the girls charging $500/ hour also expect you to drive to them, and the percentage with this expectation is closer to 80%.
I much prefer the old system. I realize there were disadvantages to the agency system; but I never had a problem. And I used the agencies for *years*, off-and-on..Providers and their pimps knowing my address, showing up where I live, knowing how much I pay for gas and electric. LOL Thankfully before my time. Yikes.
Smokey Gringo
05-31-24, 14:14
I find it funny that you state your vitriol is not directed at me but it was a direct reply to my comment. But after reading your reply and looking at the logic you use I can see that you may not see that you were direction that to my comment.
So because you met one lady that was either successful or maybe was gifted or won a large sum of money you believe all these ladies are spreading money on their beds and rolling in it after we leave. I will say most of these ladies probably more wonder how they are going to pay the rent. So they cannot afford to buy a car, maintenance, insurance, registration, and gas.
Like said before because of their past decisions they cannot have a license. And then there are the current addicts that you do not want driving. Some of these ladies have mental or emotional illnesses that would make it better if they did not drive..I think everybody but you read that right? I've seen some of your posts and I'm guessing English ain't your first language and it's the second time you've taken offense to something I've said when one I was quoting you (direct) and this time.
Definition of "Vitriol"- cruel and bitter criticism.
But now it's going to be:
Both this quoted one and the next after read like A. We are all newbie dumbshits and B. A true stunning polished armored White Knight. Homie I been around a looooong time and seen from the low end to the high. The second comment is so moot it's funny. "Don't see them or do" "Deposit or no deposit" "No ones forcing you". I'm going to add in addition to my comment below the title of "Captain Obvious" or call you Yoda.
You're right though, the business has changed. And for the absolute worst. And it's not the dudes. It's the talent. All of them. The difference now instead of having the agency / handler having a website like Todd said, we have shitholes like Babylon and Tryst. And that leave us to not have a true response like inquiring we got "Hey that girl no longer works for me. She's off the "deep end"" or was ripping people and me off. " which we could get from the agency or handler. Secondly, no agency or handler required a deposit because they could tell the girls just like Todd said "They're good. " Which opened the opportunity to allow less stable girls, insane prices, and plenty of deposit ripoffs. And it's because not enough guys put their foot down to show the girls how it should be done and new guys and how it was done and will be.
I don't care how many dudes have ghosted them, there is twice as many waiting. That's such a bullshit reasoning on the girls behalf and for you to take up. Look down the ripoffs on how many deposits were taken. It's a bad business practice no matter what anyone says. So she drove to Mason and it took an hour of her time and the dude never responded, go right down the list and some other dude will answer either close or 15 minutes in any direction. And if not they'll be more tomorrow. WHERE ELSE ARE THEY MAKING $250-500 an hour? NOWHERE. So they lost that hour whatever and they make it up the next day it's $125-250 an hour average. Again, NOWHERE.
I know they all got bills and bullshit. Why even argue that again? Because so do I and you. See my above point, I'd bet my nuts in your career you don't make either of those per hour.
And the "so I met the one lady", she didn't win it, she worked for it, was way dependable, and not gifted. She was just cool and open. I have gotten to know them. I know so much about them is why I'm always complaining they're walking all over everyone and not taking up the sword and shield like you.
The position I'll ever take up for them is the cretins and orges they have to look at possibly pounding their goods. Or If the dudes a bad vibe or pushes it and gets physical or gets creepy and causes trouble. THAT'S IT.
RufusFirefly
06-01-24, 06:12
So what is your point?
You said a lot with little to no meaning. Are you a politician? You did attack me but I am a big boy and can take it unlike you who is too scared to admit you are attacking me.
My point is treat these ladies with some dignity and you might enjoy your time with them more than usual. After all they are people.
I think everybody but you read that right? I've seen some of your posts and I'm guessing English ain't your first language and it's the second time you've taken offense to something I've said when one I was quoting you (direct) and this time.
Definition of "Vitriol"- cruel and bitter criticism.
But now it's going to be:
Both this quoted one and the next after read like A. We are all newbie dumbshits and B. A true stunning polished armored White Knight. Homie I been around a looooong time and seen from the low end to the high. The second comment is so moot it's funny. "Don't see them or do" "Deposit or no deposit" "No ones forcing you". I'm going to add in addition to my comment below the title of "Captain Obvious" or call you Yoda.
You're right though, the business has changed. And for the absolute worst. And it's not the dudes. It's the talent. All of them. The difference now instead of having the agency / handler having a website like Todd said, we have shitholes like Babylon and Tryst. And that leave us to not have a true response like inquiring we got "Hey that girl no longer works for me. She's off the "deep end"" or was ripping people and me off. " which we could get from the agency or handler. Secondly, no agency or handler required a deposit because they could tell the girls just like Todd said "They're good. " Which opened the opportunity to allow less stable girls, insane prices, and plenty of deposit ripoffs. And it's because not enough guys put their foot down to show the girls how it should be done and new guys and how it was done and will be.
I don't care how many dudes have ghosted them, there is twice as many waiting. That's such a bullshit reasoning on the girls behalf and for you to take up. Look down the ripoffs on how many deposits were taken. It's a bad business practice no matter what anyone says. So she drove to Mason and it took an hour of her time and the dude never responded, go right down the list and some other dude will answer either close or 15 minutes in any direction. And if not they'll be more tomorrow. WHERE ELSE ARE THEY MAKING $250-500 an hour? NOWHERE. So they lost that hour whatever and they make it up the next day it's $125-250 an hour average. Again, NOWHERE.
I know they all got bills and bullshit. Why even argue that again? Because so do I and you. See my above point, I'd bet my nuts in your career you don't make either of those per hour.
And the "so I met the one lady", she didn't win it, she worked for it, was way dependable, and not gifted. She was just cool and open. I have gotten to know them. I know so much about them is why I'm always complaining they're walking all over everyone and not taking up the sword and shield like you.
The position I'll ever take up for them is the cretins and orges they have to look at possibly pounding their goods. Or If the dudes a bad vibe or pushes it and gets physical or gets creepy and causes trouble. THAT'S IT.
I believe these were all civil lawsuits where he had judgements issued against him. These are not criminal convictions. Just my 2 cents.Can't say that anymore; "it's only a civil trial".
Trump is now a felon. He's a convicted criminal.
Smokey Gringo
06-01-24, 20:58
So what is your point?
You said a lot with little to no meaning. Are you a politician? You did attack me but I am a big boy and can take it unlike you who is too scared to admit you are attacking me.
My point is treat these ladies with some dignity and you might enjoy your time with them more than usual. After all they are people.This fucking guy. Geeezus:
You're a Simp. A White Knight.
Your recent posts are both pandering to the ladies and condescending to us. It is us versus them homie. You've forgotten your side.
Todd Cincy
06-01-24, 20:59
Providers and their pimps knowing my address, showing up where I live, knowing how much I pay for gas and electric. LOL Thankfully before my time. Yikes.Meanwhile, I see news reports every week about hobbyists getting busted in hotel stings. All those mugshots? They always come from hotel room stings.
I have *never* heard of an outcall bust at a hobbyist's private residence.
And if you're going through the verification process most of these girls are asking for, they can find out where you live anyway.
You are probably safer if you're going to an AMP, since they don't do any verification. Unless you happen to be there on the day of an LE bust.
Smokey Gringo
06-01-24, 21:01
Can't say that anymore; "it's only a civil trial".
Trump is now a felon. He's a convicted criminal.We all know and agreed to knock it off. There's a curtain in the voting booth for a reason.
We were discussing outcall and the recent market and bullshit going on.
Todd Cincy
06-01-24, 21:10
We all know and agreed to knock it off. There's a curtain in the voting booth for a reason.
We were discussing outcall and the recent market and bullshit going on.I suggest that when someone posts about politics (from either political perspective), at least three of us should post kitten / puppy photos as responses.
Smokey Gringo
06-01-24, 21:13
I thinking about offering my services to only senior members:
Todd and Rufus got me thinking. I'll be a driver. You text me, I come and take you, scout out the area, then hotel / house, make sure it's clear, and let the ladies know won't be ripoffs, you come in and do whatever and everybody gets home safe and happy.
I've seen so many "the boyfriend / husband busted in". They wouldn't if they knew you had a driver.
Just throwing it out there.
Smokey Gringo
06-01-24, 21:16
I suggest that when someone posts about politics (from either political perspective), at least three of us should post kitten / puppy photos as responses.I'll blow this thread up with cat pics asshole. Don't play haha.
I got 4-6 shop cats that need a home.
Smokey Gringo
06-01-24, 21:38
Meanwhile, I see news reports every week about hobbyists getting busted in hotel stings. All those mugshots? They always come from hotel room stings.
I have *never* heard of an outcall bust at a hobbyist's private residence.
And if you're going through the verification process most of these girls are asking for, they can find out where you live anyway.
You are probably safer if you're going to an AMP, since they don't do any verification. Unless you happen to be there on the day of an LE bust.The cops want you to come them like an assembly line. They ain't wasting their time to drive up to bust just you.
And I'll say for it for the 900th time:
While I like to remain private and drama free, I can reveal myself and tamp drama because I have nothing to lose.
Outcall is far superior.
They're coming to you. Which means ain't no dude knocking on doors, busting in, kids or whatever. If you have this much to lose, why are you even playing in the first place? What are they going to do with it, pay your bill for you? Shut off service or something? Again, they'd have to pay the bill first. And so they know where you live. I've seen 100 girls and 200 norms. Not one has even caused a problem. You give these people too much credit.
But it's always been my position to respect / protect both you and me.
We all know and agreed to knock it off. There's a curtain in the voting booth for a reason.
We were discussing outcall and the recent market and bullshit going on.Actually YOU decided to change the topic. , not "we". You didn't ask anyone. You didn't take a poll. You just started a post in all caps and told people to change the subject.
I certainly didn't agree to it. Perhaps others did by not contesting your post; passive acceptance.
But then, this is The Octagon thread, created specifically as a venue to argue. If you don't feel like it, you are more than welcome to not comment, just like I have chosen not to comment on the Incall vs Outcall discussion.
Now, where was I? Oh, yeah. Trump is a criminal. Now he's a CONVICTED criminal. A felon.
RufusFirefly
06-02-24, 06:24
I saw once where LEO used a house they had rented to run a sting. I have seen news reports where police have used houses to run stings for catching those perverts looking for children. So yes they do it.
Yes AMPs are safer but they have to catch you in the act so even if it is raided the lady should be able to hid it soon in time. They might make you stay to answer questions.
Meanwhile, I see news reports every week about hobbyists getting busted in hotel stings. All those mugshots? They always come from hotel room stings.
I have *never* heard of an outcall bust at a hobbyist's private residence.
And if you're going through the verification process most of these girls are asking for, they can find out where you live anyway.
You are probably safer if you're going to an AMP, since they don't do any verification. Unless you happen to be there on the day of an LE bust.
RufusFirefly
06-02-24, 06:33
Dude get real. So now you are speaking for everyone. Sorry you do not speak for me. Crap you cannot even speak for yourself.
You make long posts that have no point.
You demean people where English is their second language.
You resort to name calling.
You think everyone is wrong that disagrees with you.
Step aside let the big boys play.
We all know and agreed to knock it off. There's a curtain in the voting booth for a reason.
We were discussing outcall and the recent market and bullshit going on.
Can't say that anymore; "it's only a civil trial".
Trump is now a felon. He's a convicted criminal.Yep, now you're right. Kangaroo court or not, Trump is a convicted criminal. LOL. Sleepy Joe Biden who has led the USA down the toilet and his sidekick, the dumber than dirt Kamala versus Trump the convicted. What a choice to be our next leader.
Yep, now you're right. Kangaroo court or not, Trump is a convicted criminal. LOL. Sleepy Joe Biden who has led the USA down the toilet and his sidekick, the dumber than dirt Kamala versus Trump the convicted. What a choice to be our next leader.So you're saying, "Sleepy Joe" (not the guy who actually dozed off during his criminal trial) is brilliant enough to hide his (as per the MAGA minions in Congress) crimes of international magnitude involving foreign governments and coordinate a multi agency corruption of the justice system. All without leaving a trace of evidence. All the investigative powers of the Trump White House, and all the powers vested by Congress, and not a single shred of hard evidence.
If he's that brilliant, brilliant enough to outsmart Trump and get him convicted, then he's smart enough to deserve a second term.
You know, I keep hearing the MAGA minions complain about a corrupt justice system. What I haven't heard is anyone say Trump is innocent. Is that what you're saying? Can you say it?
So you're saying, "Sleepy Joe" (not the guy who actually dozed off during his criminal trial) is brilliant enough to hide his (as per the MAGA minions in Congress) crimes of international magnitude involving foreign governments and coordinate a multi agency corruption of the justice system. All without leaving a trace of evidence. All the investigative powers of the Trump White House, and all the powers vested by Congress, and not a single shred of hard evidence.
If he's that brilliant, brilliant enough to outsmart Trump and get him convicted, then he's smart enough to deserve a second term.
You know, I keep hearing the MAGA minions complain about a corrupt justice system. What I haven't heard is anyone say Trump is innocent. Is that what you're saying? Can you say it?You smoke way too much crack if you think we believe Commie Joe could put this all together by himself. It was all done by his Commie staff and Commie DOJ. They picked the Commie courts, judge and Commie prosecutors. Joe is just the puppet front man.
Your hero Commie Joe Shits himself in put for the entire world to see. It's because he can't find his way off the stage, let alone a bathroom. I don't know anyone that would go to work with the Shits or out in public, but I'm not a Commie. The best part is he is hoping to do it for 4 more years.
Let's not forget about how he stumbles and mumbles when he try"s to read the teleprompter. When he goes off the teleprompter he's a babbling idiot. He is always lying, my favorite is how his uncle Bosey was eaten by pygmies.
That ever topped him kicking popcorn ass.
So go on with repeating over and over Trump's a convicted felon. When he wins his appeal you can go back to repeating he's a racist. Until take a hit off your crack pipe with your Commie friends.
So you're saying, "Sleepy Joe" (not the guy who actually dozed off during his criminal trial) is brilliant enough to hide his (as per the MAGA minions in Congress) crimes of international magnitude involving foreign governments and coordinate a multi agency corruption of the justice system. All without leaving a trace of evidence. All the investigative powers of the Trump White House, and all the powers vested by Congress, and not a single shred of hard evidence.
If he's that brilliant, brilliant enough to outsmart Trump and get him convicted, then he's smart enough to deserve a second term.
You know, I keep hearing the MAGA minions complain about a corrupt justice system. What I haven't heard is anyone say Trump is innocent. Is that what you're saying? Can you say it?Yawn. Your trolling rants are boring. If you think Biden is brilliant and deserves a second term, then vote for him. If you don't like Trump for whatever reason, then don't vote for him. Have fun with your rants.
Smokey Gringo
06-02-24, 23:06
Oh well. It's going to be like Sisyphus. But here's some cats.
Smokey Gringo
06-02-24, 23:49
Actually YOU decided to change the topic. , not "we". You didn't ask anyone. You didn't take a poll. You just started a post in all caps and told people to change the subject.
I certainly didn't agree to it. Perhaps others did by not contesting your post; passive acceptance.
But then, this is The Octagon thread, created specifically as a venue to argue. If you don't feel like it, you are more than welcome to not comment, just like I have chosen not to comment on the Incall vs Outcall discussion.
Now, where was I? Oh, yeah. Trump is a criminal. Now he's a CONVICTED criminal. A felon.Actually D Nut, speaking of you, I went thru years of your work back to 2022 before I got tired. The far majority are a large political shit like this is CNN or Fox Chat board and the other are just straight observational.
Can anyone else look back and tell me when DNut here actually gave a review on a chick? Like the last time he was in the field? While I certainly do admire your history of 2800 posts, at some point you left the battlefield and like to hear yourself heard and resting on you laurels or post count.
I just posted a whatsyourprice review and warned people.
ALSO: one member who shall remained unnamed messaged me and complimented me on trying to get rid of the political pissing contest because you know I'm not a mod or the owner.
Actually D Nut, speaking of you, I went thru years of your work back to 2022 before I got tired. The far majority are a large political shit like this is CNN or Fox Chat board and the other are just straight observational.
Can anyone else look back and tell me when DNut here actually gave a review on a chick? Like the last time he was in the field? While I certainly do admire your history of 2800 posts, at some point you left the battlefield and like to hear yourself heard and resting on you laurels or post count.
I just posted a whatsyourprice review and warned people.
ALSO: one member who shall remained unnamed messaged me and complimented me on trying to get rid of the political pissing contest because you know I'm not a mod or the owner.If you actually read all my posts of the last 2 years, you would have come across some posts with me mentioning that I am currently in a relationship and don't feel the need to pay for sex. If you go even further, about 3 or 4 years, I made a post where I state that I only use the hobby when I am not in a relationship but feel the urge to fuck.
Which brings me to your comment. My response. "So?
As for "your friend", who you say allegedly according to you (without proof) "thanked you", unless he actually wants his voice to count, then speak up and out. Put his name next to his words. Without that, it means nothing and carries no weight whatsoever.
I have 16 people who messaged me thanking me for bringing back political stuff. (See how that works?
Todd Cincy
06-03-24, 08:22
We have another contentious election coming up in 5 months. My guess is that we're pretty evenly divided here between the two political parties.
If the Octagon becomes nothing but a repository for reposting talking points ("Trump is a criminal!" "Biden is a senile old man!"), then it's going to become indistinguishable from Twitter.
And yes, 99 percent of it will be recycled "talking points". Almost all political content on social media (which is what this place is) is derivative.
Yes, all of us know that Trump was convicted last week. All of us know that Joe Biden would be 86 at the end of a second term. We're all aware of the arguments for and against both candidates. We hear them constantly.
The content of the Octagon is loosely defined. But it should probably have at least a tangential connection to the hobby in Cincinnati.
For example, I have *not* been seeing many providers lately because of the low quality and high prices. I sometimes post my general reactions to the local market here. I try to minimize that in the venue-specific threads, because I know the guys there are looking for specific information.
But I wouldn't post a movie review here. I wouldn't talk about long-distance running here. I wouldn't talk about lawn care, or the Trotsky-Stalinist split in the former USSR.
I went through something like this on my personal Facebook feed following the 2020 election. Everyone's feed became a mess of (highly repetitive) political talking points. Trump, Trump, Biden, Biden. Abortion! The border! LGBTQ indoctrination in schools!
There was lots of unfriending and people leaving Facebook altogether.
My friends who are left on Facebook largely don't rant about politics anymore.
I would suggest that we need a gentlemen's agreement to keep the 2024 election off the Octagon, unless the state of the hobby in Cincinnati becomes a major issue in the national campaign.
Todd Cincy
06-03-24, 08:39
I saw once where LEO used a house they had rented to run a sting. I have seen news reports where police have used houses to run stings for catching those perverts looking for children. So yes they do it.
Yes AMPs are safer but they have to catch you in the act so even if it is raided the lady should be able to hid it soon in time. They might make you stay to answer questions.A house where you don't control the environment can be as dangerous as a hotel room where you don't control the environment. But those are both examples of incall. (Incall is when you, the hobbyist, travel to a location that the provider is using to see multiple clients.).
Outcall is at the *hobbyist's* house. If a provider comes to my house, I can a.) be sure that there is no one lurking in another room to roll me or arrest me, and b.) I can verify that 5 undercover police cars have not been parked nearby.
This doesn't mean that outcall at your residence is perfect, or that there aren't legitimate concerns with it. And it's pretty much off the table for married guys. But I do believe that it's harder for LE to stage a sting at *your* residence.
Most of the guys who are worried about the provider "knowing where they live" are dealing with lower-end girls, or at least that is my guess. At any rate, that is more of a concern the farther down you go on the provider food chain.
Again: there is no 100 percent safe way to hobby. It's a matter of picking the risks that you're most comfortable with, given a.) your individual situation, and b.) the types of girls you tend to see.
Smokey Gringo
06-03-24, 08:41
We have another contentious election coming up in 5 months. My guess is that we're pretty evenly divided here between the two political parties.
If the Octagon becomes nothing but a repository for reposting talking points ("Trump is a criminal!" "Biden is a senile old man!"), then it's going to become indistinguishable from Twitter.
And yes, 99 percent of it will be recycled "talking points". Almost all political content on social media (which is what this place is) is derivative.
Yes, all of us know that Trump was convicted last week. All of us know that Joe Biden would be 86 at the end of a second term. We're all aware of the arguments for and against both candidates. We hear them constantly.
The content of the Octagon is loosely defined. But it should probably have at least a tangential connection to the hobby in Cincinnati.
For example, I have *not* been seeing many providers lately because of the low quality and high prices. I sometimes post my general reactions to the local market here. I try to minimize that in the venue-specific threads, because I know the guys there are looking for specific information.
But I wouldn't post a movie review here. I wouldn't talk about long-distance running here. I wouldn't talk about lawn care, or the Trotsky-Stalinist split in the former USSR.
I went through something like this on my personal Facebook feed following the 2020 election. Everyone's feed became a mess of (highly repetitive) political talking points. Trump, Trump, Biden, Biden. Abortion! The border! LGBTQ indoctrination in schools!
There was lots of unfriending and people leaving Facebook altogether.
My friends who are left on Facebook largely don't rant about politics anymore.
I would suggest that we need a gentlemen's agreement to keep the 2024 election off the Octagon, unless the state of the hobby in Cincinnati becomes a major issue in the national campaign.Count my vote of course.
I would suggest that we need a gentlemen's agreement to keep the 2024 election off the Octagon, unless the state of the hobby in Cincinnati becomes a major issue in the national campaign.I would submit that the hobby itself is something of a political issue too, though I admit that's an angle that doesn't normally come up in here. I would love discussion on that.
Do you guys factor the hobby into the way you vote?
That said, I post so rarely in here that my opinion probably shouldn't matter anyway, and this thread has literally always been a free-for-all, but I too will stop with politics that are not hobby-related for now; not even answering the last reply I got, which I assure you, has been difficult LOL.
Here is a perfect place for everyone to talk about anything they want that doesn't contribute anything for helping others get laid.This is the very first post of The Octagon. Talking about incall or outcall, or whatever Gringo wants to talk about is actually misplaced for the purpose of the Octagon.
Smokey Gringo
06-03-24, 16:48
This is the very first post of The Octagon. Talking about incall or outcall, or whatever Gringo wants to talk about is actually misplaced for the purpose of the Octagon.Oh knock it off. I just tried to change the subject to something and yeah it was something bugging ME. But anybody else could have chimed with something else and still can.
Oh well. It's going to be like Sisyphus. But here's some cats.Ah, the true purpose of the Internet, finally. Cute cat pictures!
(moving this from the Escort thread).
Doxxing can only be done to somebody who's alive, so you can harass them with phone calls and calling SWAT on them. Can't do that to someone who's dead.
I actually wanted to make a small donation to her family, if she has any. Can't do that if I only know her stage name in the hobby.Doxxing is the publication or dissemination of PII, personally identifiable information, without consent. Period. Hard stop. It doesn't make qualifications such if the person is still alive or deceased. Although often used for the purposes of harrassment, the lack of a nefarious intent doesn't preclude that sharing PII of someone else without consent is still doxxing.
I got to agree with DNut here. I believe the site TOS prohibit the sharing of PII and/or actual number on the forums. Regardless of the rules, it is certainly against our norms. If you want to privately ask for such info via PM (and you have not revealed yourself to be a dick in some way) you can generally get cooperation.
BAM
(moving this from the Escort thread).
Doxxing is the publication or dissemination of PII, personally identifiable information, without consent. Period. Hard stop. It doesn't make qualifications such if the person is still alive or deceased. Although often used for the purposes of harrassment, the lack of a nefarious intent doesn't preclude that sharing PII of someone else without consent is still doxxing.
RufusFirefly
07-01-24, 06:04
It is too bad that mongers feel the need to bring down some of these lovely ladies by making questionable reports because they got mad at a lady. Yes these ladies provide a service that we all want and most of them do it because it is their only option. Most due to choices they have made in the past and many of those are still making those bad choices.
So when you make a false report on a lady because you are angry with you you are not o ly hurting a lady that is trying to support herself but you are misleading other mongers. It is hard enough to find good providers so we do not need bad reports by mongers. This forum is about providing good information.
So please if you want to act like a teenage girl and make false reports because you are mad then open a FB account. Oh the monger I am writing this to probably already has one.
This is a forum for real men not people pretending to be men. Oh this is not the first issue I have had with this monger. He responded to one of my reports on this string by disparaging people who English is their second language. So first he brings down people that know at least two languages and now he us trying to hurt a lady that provides very good service.
We all want truth in reports so we can make better decisions on how to spend our hard earned money.
Hillbilly Bob
07-01-24, 16:45
It is too bad that mongers feel the need to bring down some of these lovely ladies by making questionable reports because they got mad at a lady. Yes these ladies provide a service that we all want and most of them do it because it is their only option. Most due to choices they have made in the past and many of those are still making those bad choices.
So when you make a false report on a lady because you are angry with you you are not o ly hurting a lady that is trying to support herself but you are misleading other mongers. It is hard enough to find good providers so we do not need bad reports by mongers. This forum is about providing good information.
So please if you want to act like a teenage girl and make false reports because you are mad then open a FB account. Oh the monger I am writing this to probably already has one.If someone is making false post you need to let us know who it is so we can avoid his post.
RufusFirefly
07-01-24, 18:26
If someone is making false post you need to let us know who it is so we can avoid his post.I have tried to make a report on false reports and got infractions. I am just letting everyone know that making false reports is not helpful.
It is too bad that mongers feel the need to bring down some of these lovely ladies by making questionable reports because they got mad at a lady. Yes these ladies provide a service that we all want and most of them do it because it is their only option. Most due to choices they have made in the past and many of those are still making those bad choices.
So when you make a false report on a lady because you are angry with you you are not o ly hurting a lady that is trying to support herself but you are misleading other mongers. It is hard enough to find good providers so we do not need bad reports by mongers. This forum is about providing good information.
So please if you want to act like a teenage girl and make false reports because you are mad then open a FB account. Oh the monger I am writing this to probably already has one.
This is a forum for real men not people pretending to be men. Oh this is not the first issue I have had with this monger. He responded to one of my reports on this string by disparaging people who English is their second language. So first he brings down people that know at least two languages and now he us trying to hurt a lady that provides very good service.
We all want truth in reports so we can make better decisions on how to spend our hard earned money.I guess my question would be if you weren't there or directly involved, how do you know that a specific report is false? Not believing a report is ok but doesn't necessarily mean its false.
Vinnie Kramer
07-01-24, 22:52
What is the truth and how do you know it?
I have tried to make a report on false reports and got infractions. I am just letting everyone know that making false reports is not helpful.
RufusFirefly
07-02-24, 05:55
What is the truth and how do you know it?Your are totally right what is the truth. Yes this has been in response to a recent report. Yes I am working off of two conflicting stories but just like a judge in a civil case I look at the preponderance of evidence to make my decision on which is true. Because I cannot prove that the report is false I will not attack the report or monger directly. Now I did leave clues to the report.
Once again the key to the success or the utility of this forum is that the mongers give the mist honest and accurate reports of activities. This is not a forum for mongers to make false claims to hurt a provider because they had an argument or a disagreement. That does not help us.
Smokey Gringo
07-02-24, 08:58
It's the Octagon Rooofie baby. Don't dance around it, you can name me. Mr. White Knight himself is mad because I left a review on that nutty frustrating woman from Beavercreek he suggested. And as a matter of fact, if you look in the Dayton sub, they actually call him the exact same thing for his behavior and reviews. And come to find after multiple mongers reached out, she was part of the board and got banned for making fake accounts and drama or arguing. And for the record here is her little quip about having my "real address and phone number" . I have the rest of her stupid chat and nonsense.
So what now mi amigo?
RufusFirefly
07-02-24, 09:36
Oh wow that's the best you got calling me a White Knight and saying Roofie Baby. That is good. Yes I am a White Knight to the ladies that treat me good. I treat her as a lady and we are friends. Try treating the ladies better and you might get better service and treated better.
I never said she was right. I know her well and she does let her emotions get to her at times but you have to realize that she has to deal with many mongers who lie and try to get her to lower her rate and give her grief. Oh and that goes for all the other ladies out there.
So let's just say you were a gentleman throughout your texts. That is not a reason to make the very descriptive and long report you did. That is what teenagers do because their brains have not developed completely and they do not make the best decisions.
You should see the text string we had before we met. Instead of making a long report about her I worked through it and it has paid off. She might have made a mistake but that is no reason to bring her down and try to get mongers not to see her when she cannot defend herself. Even if she had an account she would not be able to defend herself. That is why she needs White Knights. Yes more than just me. But you made a report on the Dayton and Cincinnati string.
So I guess you have never made a mistake and wish that you did not do that. Bonita is a great provider. She is a sweet lady. She is a breath of fresh air in this hobby. Guess what she gets mad at me at times and yes sometimes I deserve it and sometimes I don't. She is human not a machine. Give her and the other ladies a break.
I heard both sides of the story and I know the truth is somewhere in the middle. Once again you made the report knowing she was defenseless so to me that is childish. And yes I am being nice with saying it was childish.
I am Bonita's White Knight and I am proud of it. She has taken care of my needs and I will continue to defend her.
For those mongers looking for a sweet mid 30's spinner that can fly off the handle at times then you need to check out Bonita up near Dayton. You lost out man.
It's the Octagon Rooofie baby. Don't dance around it, you can name me. Mr. White Knight himself is mad because I left a review on that nutty frustrating woman from Beavercreek he suggested. And as a matter of fact, if you look in the Dayton sub, they actually call him the exact same thing for his behavior and reviews. And come to find after multiple mongers reached out, she was part of the board and got banned for making fake accounts and drama or arguing. And for the record here is her little quip about having my "real address and phone number" . I have the rest of her stupid chat and nonsense.
So what now mi amigo?
Vinnie Kramer
07-02-24, 10:36
Preponderance of what evidence? Did the glove not fit? Blue dress with white stains?
You're a hoot.
Your are totally right what is the truth. Yes this has been in response to a recent report. Yes I am working off of two conflicting stories but just like a judge in a civil case I look at the preponderance of evidence to make my decision on which is true. Because I cannot prove that the report is false I will not attack the report or monger directly. Now I did leave clues to the report.
Once again the key to the success or the utility of this forum is that the mongers give the mist honest and accurate reports of activities. This is not a forum for mongers to make false claims to hurt a provider because they had an argument or a disagreement. That does not help us.
Smokey Gringo
07-02-24, 11:30
Always on the ladies side you are. There you go again throwing your opinion that you've gotten smacked repeatedly for about right and wrong on reviews.
She would have been fine and I would've just said "fuck it" on leaving a review had she not thrown in that after about my address and number after spending hours texting, reading her whackadoo responses, and deciding if I wanted to part with 3-400. To me it's a major line to cross and it's best not to even joke or reference it for a provider.
Also, she ain't got just ADHD. She, you, and her other white knight can rationalize it all you'd like. She's an addict and with that it's obvious she gets super emotional and will go on a wrath. I try to stick to tell what I encountered and help other members "proceed with caution", "Good to go", or "you're going to have a bad time".
RufusFirefly
07-02-24, 12:05
Once again I reiterate that you failed to take the higher ground. You could have blocked her and ignored the text but you chose to stoop to a low level and bash her on two different strings when she cannot defend herself.
I have shared her number with many mongers and many of them have thanked me. She is a good provider and yes she makes mistakes. You think you are so much better than these ladies. So what makes you better after all you pay for their services.
Listen to Gypsys, Tramps, and Thieves by Cher. I will take a drug addict over a bully.
Always on the ladies side you are. There you go again throwing your opinion that you've gotten smacked repeatedly for about right and wrong on reviews.
She would have been fine and I would've just said "fuck it" on leaving a review had she not thrown in that after about my address and number after spending hours texting, reading her whackadoo responses, and deciding if I wanted to part with 3-400. To me it's a major line to cross and it's best not to even joke or reference it for a provider.
Also, she ain't got just ADHD. She, you, and her other white knight can rationalize it all you'd like. She's an addict and with that it's obvious she gets super emotional and will go on a wrath. I try to stick to tell what I encountered and help other members "proceed with caution", "Good to go", or "you're going to have a bad time".
Vinnie Kramer
07-02-24, 19:10
Who had "quoting Cher songs" on their USASG bingo card?
Time for the popcorn.
Keep going boys. This is funnier than a pot smoking monkey.
Once again I reiterate that you failed to take the higher ground. You could have blocked her and ignored the text but you chose to stoop to a low level and bash her on two different strings when she cannot defend herself.
I have shared her number with many mongers and many of them have thanked me. She is a good provider and yes she makes mistakes. You think you are so much better than these ladies. So what makes you better after all you pay for their services.
Listen to Gypsys, Tramps, and Thieves by Cher. I will take a drug addict over a bully.
RufusFirefly
07-03-24, 06:00
Sorry but I was trying to keep it simple for all the mongers that cannot think deeply on an issue and follow the crowd. So here is it explained.
In the song Cher sings of men who make fun and talk bad about the gypsies during the day but at night they are willing to visit them.
Does that sound familiar?
Who had "quoting Cher songs" on their USASG bingo card?
Time for the popcorn.
Keep going boys. This is funnier than a pot smoking monkey.
Smokey Gringo
07-03-24, 14:18
Sorry but I was trying to keep it simple for all the mongers that cannot think deeply on an issue and follow the crowd. So here is it explained.
In the song Cher sings of men who make fun and talk bad about the gypsies during the day but at night they are willing to visit them.
Does that sound familiar?With every comment you dig yourself a bigger hole, you're now working on unseen levels. And I love how your responses are always condescending as if we are all playing checkers whilst you play chess. You're not.
So I left a negative review on a chick you are CLEARLY in love and CLEARLY in cahoots with her because she continued to text me yesterday after the fact and used some of your key words.
Was it false like you've been claiming? No.
Petty? Maybe.
Waaaah "I can't report it because I get infractions when I do". Report it. If A2 deems it unworthy, I'll take the hit. I'd say have some balls but until then shut the fuck up about it and move on and quit whining you simp ass wanna be guardian angel.
RufusFirefly
07-03-24, 14:38
So you want me to stop but yet you keep coming back for more. Sounds very familiar. I believe you might have done that before.
So I make the reference to the song. I explain the reference and it appears you still do not get it.
As for my fair lady, she is my friend and we have great times together. She is that good. You just need to drop it.
With every comment you dig yourself a bigger hole, you're now working on unseen levels. And I love how your responses are always condescending as if we are all playing checkers whilst you play chess. You're not.
So I left a negative review on a chick you are CLEARLY in love and CLEARLY in cahoots with her because she continued to text me yesterday after the fact and used some of your key words.
Was it false like you've been claiming? No.
Petty? Maybe.
Waaaah "I can't report it because I get infractions when I do". Report it. If A2 deems it unworthy, I'll take the hit. I'd say have some balls but until then shut the fuck up about it and move on and quit whining you simp ass wanna be guardian angel.
What is the truth and how do you know it?Truth, never changes.
Facts, can be correct but can also change.
Opinion, well everyone has one and we all know what they say about opinions.
Bad info, things that aren't true, misleading, and just bs info.
I have been seeing Bonita for 4-5 months now. You know why I keep going back? Because she's a sexy spinner who does a nice job of pleasing me. I enjoy her company. She's always ready at our scheduled time. Has NEVER been drugged up. Dresses in sexy outfits. Pretty much what I'm looking for in a provider.
Seems like the not so good reviews (which I've only seen a couple) about Bonita come from someone who has not actually seen her. Well I've seen her many times, my last time was today. I had a blast!
Another monger (not SG) stated Bonita was thick in the thighs and had a big ass. Well it could be said that that is an opinion. Ok but here's the facts. Bonita is 5' 1" and weighs 107 lbs. Mind you this monger has never seen her but said he has been boatloads of pictures. I call bs. I've seen her many times and she's far from thick in the thighs and having a fat ass. I just checked today. I call this bad information.
I'm like Rufus and agree mostly with what he says about Bonita. Call me a white night or whatever, I just know I have a blast with Bonita and she's very sweet to me and I enjoy. I do consider her a friend and because of that I try to help her. I want her to be successful at this so I can continue to see her. Selfish I suppose.
I try to put accurate, truthful, and honest information on the board. Then others can decide if they want to give that provider a try. Any provider I've seen I try to do this for.
And SG the medical needs she was talking about was medical bills she has to pay. Not any legal or illegal drugs.
Happy mongering all.
HJJ.
FootMan2007
07-03-24, 17:18
It's the Octagon Rooofie baby. Don't dance around it, you can name me. Mr. White Knight himself is mad because I left a review on that nutty frustrating woman from Beavercreek he suggested. And as a matter of fact, if you look in the Dayton sub, they actually call him the exact same thing for his behavior and reviews. And come to find after multiple mongers reached out, she was part of the board and got banned for making fake accounts and drama or arguing. And for the record here is her little quip about having my "real address and phone number" . I have the rest of her stupid chat and nonsense.
So what now mi amigo?Seems like you were more rude and aggressive in that text than she is. All she did was try and warn you.
Smokey Gringo
07-03-24, 17:39
Seems like you were more rude and aggressive in that text than she is. All she did was try and warn you.And then there were three of you morons after checking your post history.
FootMan2007
07-04-24, 00:58
And then there were three of you morons after checking your post history.Not really white knighting her here. Doesn't change the fact that your texts you posted made you look bad in it more than her.
Smokey Gringo
07-04-24, 16:45
Not really white knighting her here. Doesn't change the fact that your texts you posted made you look bad in it more than her.If you have to phrase it "Not really", then you are. It's like saying I'm not racist "but.".
So take you, CornyJJ, and DufusFiregnat back up to cuckville. It's just west of Simptown. Population of 3.
You must really get off on name calling. Does it make you feel good? Like a tough guy? LOL.
If you have to phrase it "Not really", then you are. It's like saying I'm not racist "but.".
So take you, CornyJJ, and DufusFiregnat back up to cuckville. It's just west of Simptown. Population of 3.
Smokey Gringo
07-04-24, 23:17
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UOnlyLiveOnce
07-08-24, 19:38
For anyone wanting a diversion from politics, there's a good video series on YouTube called Soft White Underbelly, where this guy interviews people from all walks of life, including providers, OnlyFans babes, and the like. One video is an interview with two providers who are fraternal twins, 21 years old. Too bad those chicks aren't around here.
Smokey Gringo
07-09-24, 13:10
For anyone wanting a diversion from politics, there's a good video series on YouTube called Soft White Underbelly, where this guy interviews people from all walks of life, including providers, OnlyFans babes, and the like. One video is an interview with two providers who are fraternal twins, 21 years old. Too bad those chicks aren't around here.Same dude who did the most inbred family in the USA I believe. Have to check him back out.
For anyone wanting a diversion from politics, there's a good video series on YouTube called Soft White Underbelly, where this guy interviews people from all walks of life, including providers, OnlyFans babes, and the like. One video is an interview with two providers who are fraternal twins, 21 years old. Too bad those chicks aren't around here.Discreet Desires (based in Dayton but had girls in based on Columbus, Cincinnati, and Dayton) had a set of twins about 10 years ago. They were identical twins, with a slight difference, just enough to tell them apart. It was a $600 session; a bucket list item I got to check off.
They were hot by anyone's standards, about 22 years old at the time. Spinner type brunettes with perky B cups.
I will not share details of the encounter, including the one question everyone wants to know.
Mr Longrod
07-09-24, 14:39
For anyone wanting a diversion from politics, there's a good video series on YouTube called Soft White Underbelly, where this guy interviews people from all walks of life, including providers, OnlyFans babes, and the like. One video is an interview with two providers who are fraternal twins, 21 years old. Too bad those chicks aren't around here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oimDAI3-GE
I follow that guy as well. Interesting interview.
Simp4ebony
07-11-24, 09:44
If you have to phrase it "Not really", then you are. It's like saying I'm not racist "but."😂 !!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oimDAI3-GE
I follow that guy as well. Interesting interview.Like. Those 2 girls like, can't really like string a coherent thought together. Each has 3 kids by 21. Both will be on welfare shortly. I guess they think selling pussy constitutes as being a business owner. Jeez.
Vinnie Kramer
07-19-24, 07:51
I'll agree with that, nice girl. Hygiene needs improvement, nobody seems to address.15 posts in two years, not one an actual report, and here you suggest that someone needs to address Kandee's odor. Here's an idea, write an actual report about your experience with Kandee and address the issue, knob.
WanderingAbout
08-09-24, 17:58
For the price of two or three visits to the overpriced Flying J backwoods fuglies, street walker turned glamodels, and the Milfs on Tryst you can fly to Manila and spend an entire week banging really hot young Filipinas.
https://tryst.link/escort/kaylee69
https://tryst.link/escort/avalynnmayfair
Todd Cincy
08-09-24, 19:49
You said it, Wandering!
Tryst should just rename itself "America's Least Wanted".
The site is filled with unspectacular women asking for spectacular amounts of money. I think we can all agree that Tryst has done nothing, in terms of the local market, but turn 2019's $200 girls into 2024's $800 girls.
I have to wonder how many guys are actually seeing those girls at those prices.
For the price of two or three visits to the overpriced Flying J backwoods fuglies, street walker turned glamodels, and the Milfs on Tryst you can fly to Manila and spend an entire week banging really hot young Filipinas.
https://tryst.link/escort/kaylee69
https://tryst.link/escort/avalynnmayfair
Smokey Gringo
08-09-24, 20:30
You said it, Wandering!
Tryst should just rename itself "America's Least Wanted".
The site is filled with unspectacular women asking for spectacular amounts of money. I think we can all agree that Tryst has done nothing, in terms of the local market, but turn 2019's $200 girls into 2024's $800 girls.
I have to wonder how many guys are actually seeing those girls at those prices.Quite a few I would surmise. Look at our board. Some stupid desperate fucks. I think what is missed when I * about rates is that I used to use escorting as a little cheaper option but a very convenient one in relation to dating real women. I only really used that option when I got fed up dating / in relationship and bored / or out of one. You know because dinner, drinks, parties, concerts, art museum add up just to stick my penis in them albeit a couple times or regularly. And when I got sick of that, throw a couple hundred or 3 hundred for an hour of two and get to dictate the night on exactly what I wanted. And even I todays terms per hour that's good money they can make nowhere else even in the real world. And 99% of them are undependable as fuck both texting and appointment wise. And weve already been round and round me and pearish about outcall now. Lazy sloots.
Now, dating and doing the hoops is more convenient and cheaper.
And we've got these asshole selfish degenrerates tell us "no one's making you pay" or "if you can't afford it, you can't afford it, stop complaining. ".
They don't even care by our rates they could afford to see more girls unless they have that much disposable income. And there in is the problem. It's not "The haves and have nots anymore", it's the haves and has more. Fuck'them. This market will collapse. It's unsustainable. And I'll watch as they get ripped off sending stupid deposits, robbed, and run out of money and these cows start posting less and less ads.
So fk'and sick of Duck Lips in profile pics!
'nuff said, discuss amongst yourselves; I just had to vent.
For the price of two or three visits to the overpriced Flying J backwoods fuglies, street walker turned glamodels, and the Milfs on Tryst you can fly to Manila and spend an entire week banging really hot young Filipinas.
https://tryst.link/escort/kaylee69
https://tryst.link/escort/avalynnmayfairGawd I miss that place! The bath houses or whatever they were called were great. $30 and you walked I and there would be 30-40 girls dresses to impress behind one way glass. Guys would stand there for a while and just watch them. They all wore a name tag with a number on it. You would go to the teller window and order number 85. They would tell you which room to go to and that girl would show up a few minutes later. Give you a jacuzzi bath and youbwould have your way with her. Always try and ask if you wanted her twin. Then you could pay and have 2 of them for $60. What a place. Walking around Glorietta Mall on a Friday night you could just pick them up for free. They all wanted an American.
So fk'and sick of Duck Lips in profile pics!
'nuff said, discuss amongst yourselves; I just had to vent.And fucking tongue sticking out!
DickHerDown
08-28-24, 16:32
There's a senior member in the group who's a real A-Hole. I was kind enough to share my UTR info with him and this is what happened. They chatted for several days and had some odd requests for her. She complied after being told he's very generous. He sent a pic to her and even pics of his donation. Mallory is doing this to get a better car. Her car is on its last leg. With that being said, she drives said car 45 minutes to book the room. This is all on her dime. The guy confirms 30 minutes before arrival and then ghosts. It's a true shame that there are guys like that treating good women like this. This girl is one of the nicest I've ever met. Needless to say, she wanted to cry after this happened to her. Be better guys.
IdleHands1
08-28-24, 17:17
There's a senior member in the group who's a real A-Hole. I was kind enough to share my UTR info with him and this is what happened. They chatted for several days and had some odd requests for her. She complied after being told he's very generous. He sent a pic to her and even pics of his donation. Mallory is doing this to get a better car. Her car is on its last leg. With that being said, she drives said car 45 minutes to book the room. This is all on her dime. The guy confirms 30 minutes before arrival and then ghosts. It's a true shame that there are guys like that treating good women like this. This girl is one of the nicest I've ever met. Needless to say, she wanted to cry after this happened to her. Be better guys.I am still interested in meeting Mallory (as stated in PM) - If you want you can send her info my way. After all, if she decides to meet me, she will be pleased with my stunning handsomeness, pleasant demeanor, impeccable hygiene and have an overall good time.
Member #6843
08-29-24, 15:54
There's a senior member in the group who's a real A-Hole. I was kind enough to share my UTR info with him and this is what happened. They chatted for several days and had some odd requests for her. She complied after being told he's very generous. He sent a pic to her and even pics of his donation. Mallory is doing this to get a better car. Her car is on its last leg. With that being said, she drives said car 45 minutes to book the room. This is all on her dime. The guy confirms 30 minutes before arrival and then ghosts. It's a true shame that there are guys like that treating good women like this. This girl is one of the nicest I've ever met. Needless to say, she wanted to cry after this happened to her. Be better guys.Not saying he isn't a a hole. But why are there now so many accounts now being mouth pieces for escorts on here.
There's a senior member in the group who's a real A-Hole. I was kind enough to share my UTR info with him and this is what happened. They chatted for several days and had some odd requests for her. She complied after being told he's very generous. He sent a pic to her and even pics of his donation. Mallory is doing this to get a better car. Her car is on its last leg. With that being said, she drives said car 45 minutes to book the room. This is all on her dime. The guy confirms 30 minutes before arrival and then ghosts. It's a true shame that there are guys like that treating good women like this. This girl is one of the nicest I've ever met. Needless to say, she wanted to cry after this happened to her. Be better guys.Great time with a great lady. This is someone you could be out and seen with and be as proud as anyone in the room! That is no lie just the truth.
Might not be for everyone due to the price point but that's for her to decide!
Anyone know what happened to HB Bob? His account is banned.
He was always on here talking about his adventures but it seems something has happened.
First and foremost, thanks for sharing even if the info went to the wrong monger. It's against a guys nature to find a fantastic POA and then want to share it. The Octagon is where you call out assholes. Put him on blast there and then never share with him again. Others will respect her time and hopefully support her enough to get the new wheels she's needing.
There's a senior member in the group who's a real A-Hole. I was kind enough to share my UTR info with him and this is what happened. They chatted for several days and had some odd requests for her. She complied after being told he's very generous. He sent a pic to her and even pics of his donation. Mallory is doing this to get a better car. Her car is on its last leg. With that being said, she drives said car 45 minutes to book the room. This is all on her dime. The guy confirms 30 minutes before arrival and then ghosts. It's a true shame that there are guys like that treating good women like this. This girl is one of the nicest I've ever met. Needless to say, she wanted to cry after this happened to her. Be better guys.
Anyone know what happened to HB Bob? His account is banned.
He was always on here talking about his adventures but it seems something has happened.HB just resurfaced in the last week or so. His choice of topics to post about gave immediate clues. The selection of a new handle that reflects his love of DATY pretty much confirmed it.
First and foremost, thanks for sharing even if the info went to the wrong monger. It's against a guys nature to find a fantastic POA and then want to share it. The Octagon is where you call out assholes. Put him on blast there and then never share with him again. Others will respect her time and hopefully support her enough to get the new wheels she's needing.Yea man, no doubt.
HB just resurfaced in the last week or so. His choice of topics to post about gave immediate clues. The selection of a new handle that reflects his love of DATY pretty much confirmed it.I agree, that's him. Good eye & good catch.
HerbieCrow
08-30-24, 18:48
The UTR that I have been sharing her number with mongers sent me a text that she was almost killed by a monger I shared her number with. That is all she told me and I do not know which one it was because he went by John to her.
She is OK. She was able to get away. We need to stop any violence.
The UTR that I have been sharing her number with mongers sent me a text that she was almost killed by a monger I shared her number with. That is all she told me and I do not know which one it was because he went by John to her.
She is OK. She was able to get away. We need to stop any violence.I am so sorry to hear that. Is there something we can do about this?
I don't know what the admins will and will not allow. I realize we can't just start doxxing and post allegations without hard proof. The rules are such that only publicly accessible private information be posted, and this is a "he said / she said".
Speaking for myself, I hope whoever it was suffers a life changing accidental injury. Abusers needs a comeuppance from the universe.
HerbieCrow
08-31-24, 06:10
Thank you for the offer to help. I do not know what we can do for her other than if I have shared her number with you and you contact her please be patient with her when setting up an appointmentment. Also if you do visit her be sensitive and understanding. And when dealing with these ladies remember these ladies are people not objects.
I am so sorry to hear that. Is there something we can do about this?
I don't know what the admins will and will not allow. I realize we can't just start doxxing and post allegations without hard proof. The rules are such that only publicly accessible private information be posted, and this is a "he said / she said".
Speaking for myself, I hope whoever it was suffers a life changing accidental injury. Abusers needs a comeuppance from the universe.
Smokey Gringo
09-03-24, 00:43
Anyone know what happened to HB Bob? His account is banned.
He was always on here talking about his adventures but it seems something has happened.He's the classic case of falling in love with your hooker which we've had a recent rash of lately (Rufus, ilvblkgirls, etc.).
If you go back which I've pointed out before that he hasn't given any real good advice in a loooooong time. He was just platitudes which we all knew and a fucking simp for Divinerachel. She is hot, but Jesus. You newbies need and deserve a better leader than someone like him resting on his ego.
Smokey Gringo
09-03-24, 01:05
Thank you for the offer to help. I do not know what we can do for her other than if I have shared her number with you and you contact her please be patient with her when setting up an appointmentment. Also if you do visit her be sensitive and understanding. And when dealing with these ladies remember these ladies are people not objects.But It wasn't me.
With that being said, this is the occasion I've referenced where we should be partial to the ladies side because we've got a sissy out there. But again, we don't know his side. But if he's reading this, which he is, you're on notice to knock it off.
She needs to vet her own clients or you need to do a better at it. Her taking others recommendations leaves both of you clueless as to who it was. When I broke into the hobby, there weren't any girls that would see you unless you had a minimum of 2 references and they called them to check you out before scheduling. When the appointment was made, the girl or handler knew who it was coming to see them. What happened is bullshit but you both need to learn from it and take some responsibility for not being cautious enough.
Thank you for the offer to help. I do not know what we can do for her other than if I have shared her number with you and you contact her please be patient with her when setting up an appointmentment. Also if you do visit her be sensitive and understanding. And when dealing with these ladies remember these ladies are people not objects.
She needs to vet her own clients or you need to do a better at it. Her taking others recommendations leaves both of you clueless as to who it was. When I broke into the hobby, there weren't any girls that would see you unless you had a minimum of 2 references and they called them to check you out before scheduling. When the appointment was made, the girl or handler knew who it was coming to see them. What happened is bullshit but you both need to learn from it and take some responsibility for not being cautious enough.All the girls used to request 2 references with working phones numbers to call and vet you. They seem to have gotten away from this and moved to deposits. Still doesn't keep them safe. I gave a girls number out years ago to 25 seniors and one robbed her so you can never be too safe but got to know who you send.
He's the classic case of falling in love with your hooker.LMAO! THAT is funny shit! Pay to Love.
Smokey Gringo
09-04-24, 11:22
We've got a new member HerbieCrow (aka Rufus) passing off a well known Dayton escort that has so-so reviews as an UTR. It's been confirmed by me and another member. So if he gave you a number ending in 8316, that's just Bonita from the Dayton board.
And again, YMMV with her. I just found her to be a pain in the ass and a total waste of time. And her throwing "you shouldn't give people your real info" which was a veiled threat. But whatev's. I didn't say avoid. But we got some fuckery going on.
Edit: Thy ban hammer came down 🔨
Simp4ebony
09-04-24, 18:18
He's the classic case of falling in love with your hooker which we've had a recent rash of lately (Rufus, ilvblkgirls, etc.).Still thinking about me and Thalia, eh?
It's true. I fell for her. Hard. And she treated me so kindly through the whole thing. She helped me work through some shit, and I realize now those feelings were not "real," but if ever there was someone to fall for, she's definitely it!
Ol' Smokey wouldn't know what to do with a person like her. She's so much more than a warm body, but ultimately that's what guys like him can't understand. We aren't all in it for the same reasons.
She is who I needed during a dark time in my life. She helped me through, and I will always cherish her for it.
Anyone who takes beef with that is a weirdo.
Smokey Gringo
09-04-24, 18:49
Still thinking about me and Thalia, eh?
It's true. I fell for her. Hard. And she treated me so kindly through the whole thing. She helped me work through some shit, and I realize now those feelings were not "real," but if ever there was someone to fall for, she's definitely it!
Ol' Smokey wouldn't know what to do with a person like her. She's so much more than a warm body, but ultimately that's what guys like him can't understand. We aren't all in it for the same reasons.
She is who I needed during a dark time in my life. She helped me through, and I will always cherish her for it.
Anyone who takes beef with that is a weirdo."I know realize those feelings weren't real".
Bahahahahhahahahahhahahhahhahahahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahahahahhaha.
Hahahaha.
Hahah.
Haha.
Ha.
I win.
Now that you've admitted it. Welcome back to the real world. Don't do that shit again. By the way, there's plenty of AA chicks on Facebook dating. Like a fuckton. Quite a few I saw on WYP. If not they love having them bills paid. You could probably convert a few if not.
Smokey Gringo
09-08-24, 01:01
Call out Rufus who became HerbieCrow and now the the Cincinnati board is blowing up with Rad Russian with his Penthouse Letters review and now this other love letter from Mrrdfun reads EXACTLY the same but if you check the Dayton board you get the real story.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3997-Escort-Reports
You simps do what you want. I'm not going anywhere and you'll only end up like Doofus. I've been on this board for quite a while and still very active unlike some other seniors resting on their laurels.
MagicMan1123
09-08-24, 03:10
So I have seen Bonita and I thought she was fantastic. Heard mixed reviews, but I had an absolute amazing time. Met her at the hotel and was greated by a sexy little thing. No she is not some 25 yo, but still absolutely attractive. I walked into the room and she was in her panties waiting on me. I instantly got hard as she was teasing me as I started undressing. Almost no words exchanged as English is not her first language. I didn't know that walking into it, vbut was very apparent as I complimented her and she tried to respond. I couldn't make out what she was saying but her smile let me know she liked it. That said her body was saying everything I needed to know. She was face down ass up rubbing herself as I got naked. I slide her panties off and began to help her with a finger in her pussy. As others stated, tight as can be. Started to think "how am I going to fit my cock in her". Let me say she had no problem taking it. She gave me a bbj while she laid with her head hanging on the edge of the bed while I fingered her. I could feel her getting wet naturally. Like she honestly seemed to be getting tuned on as I face fucked her and fingered her. Pulled out a rubber turned her over and fucked her on the side of the bed. She responded better than any provider I ever had. Pulled me in deeper like she actually wanted it. Told me to fuck her harder and felt her pussy pulsate ij pleasure several times. I honestly believe she came a few times. I have never thought a provider had a real orgasm until today. If she faked them she deserves an Oscar. Fucked her in ever position possible. Finished in the bag. Laid with her for a minute. She started just playing with herself without me prompting her tondonso. I fingered her while she rubbed her clit and could feel her getting wet again. She sucked me a little bit but being my age it wasn't happening. I honestly felt like I let her down that I couldn't go again. I will 100% resee her agin. Don't miss out. All that said I do feel like there was some baby damage or a little lose skin but not bad compared to some I have seen.
Luke Stevens
09-08-24, 22:39
So I have seen Bonita and I thought she was fantastic. Heard mixed reviews, but I had an absolute amazing time. Met her at the hotel and was greated by a sexy little thing. No she is not some 25 yo, but still absolutely attractive. I walked into the room and she was in her panties waiting on me. I instantly got hard as she was teasing me as I started undressing. Almost no words exchanged as English is not her first language. I didn't know that walking into it, vbut was very apparent as I complimented her and she tried to respond. I couldn't make out what she was saying but her smile let me know she liked it. That said her body was saying everything I needed to know. She was face down ass up rubbing herself as I got naked. I slide her panties off and began to help her with a finger in her pussy. As others stated, tight as can be. Started to think "how am I going to fit my cock in her". Let me say she had no problem taking it. She gave me a bbj while she laid with her head hanging on the edge of the bed while I fingered her. I could feel her getting wet naturally. Like she honestly seemed to be getting tuned on as I face fucked her and fingered her. Pulled out a rubber turned her over and fucked her on the side of the bed. She responded better than any provider I ever had. Pulled me in deeper like she actually wanted it. Told me to fuck her harder and felt her pussy pulsate ij pleasure several times. I honestly believe she came a few times. I have never thought a provider had a real orgasm until today. If she faked them she deserves an Oscar. Fucked her in ever position possible. Finished in the bag. Laid with her for a minute. She started just playing with herself without me prompting her tondonso. I fingered her while she rubbed her clit and could feel her getting wet again. She sucked me a little bit but being my age it wasn't happening. I honestly felt like I let her down that I couldn't go again. I will 100% resee her agin. Don't miss out. All that said I do feel like there was some baby damage or a little lose skin but not bad compared to some I have seen.Thanks for the really cool review. Very well written. I have been talking to her. Can't wait. Seems like a very nice lady.
FatDaddy3750
09-08-24, 23:26
He's the classic case of falling in love with your hooker which we've had a recent rash of lately (Rufus, ilvblkgirls, etc.).
If you go back which I've pointed out before that he hasn't given any real good advice in a loooooong time. He was just platitudes which we all knew and a fucking simp for Divinerachel. She is hot, but Jesus. You newbies need and deserve a better leader than someone like him resting on his ego.Heard many providers for a long time e. G. , Lady j, speak highly of bob. So I think some of his escapades were / are true. We are all taller sitting on our wallets and very handsome when we open our wallets.
Mr Blue 314
09-09-24, 07:04
Like me, Smokey speaks the truth. He doesn't bowel down to the white knights and the like.
Smokey has provided great intell to me and many other mongers.
Blue considers Smokey a trusted adviser! I go to him on a regular basics for addition intell and or to confirm my info. For the new and uninformed members:
Good pussy sells it's self. Even a slightly attractive provider who offers (great service, safe clean environment, appropriate pricing, no rushing and decient communications) will have more customers than time.
Look at all reviews. Look at reviews where mongers defend providers. Why are guys defending escorts in the forum. One or two bad reviews will not really hurt a provider.
If one or two reviews indicate poor service. Maybe the girl and the monger didn't congell? Off day, mongers expications too hight? Maybe over Hyped reviews from White Knights?
Again, good pussy sells itself. Mongers trying to justify overpricing. Is just plain White Knighting!
Just read the review and decide for yourself
🔵.
Call out Rufus who became HerbieCrow and now the the Cincinnati board is blowing up with Rad Russian with his Penthouse Letters review and now this other love letter from Mrrdfun reads EXACTLY the same but if you check the Dayton board you get the real story.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3997-Escort-Reports
You simps do what you want. I'm not going anywhere and you'll only end up like Doofus. I've been on this board for quite a while and still very active unlike some other seniors resting on their laurels.
Smokey Gringo
09-12-24, 22:23
Probably will look good to street walker lovers. But for 250 ish to 3 ish in the regular world which I am, not so much and why she earned a bad review. And good luck with her attitude which with some mongers ranges from "take as long as you like" to "you didn't get off, get the fuck out. ".
I'm not going anywhere and you'll only end up like Doofus. I've been on this board for quite a while and still very active unlike some other seniors resting on their laurels.The reason you have so many posts is because you b**** and moan so goddamn much.
FootMan2007
09-13-24, 02:12
The reason you have so many posts is because you b**** and moan so goddamn much.This 100%. His personal war against Bonita is also ridiculous.
Vinnie Kramer
09-13-24, 07:17
He's the self-appointed leader of this forum.
You must be one of those simps he prattles on about.
Shame on you.
The reason you have so many posts is because you b**** and moan so goddamn much.
Smokey Gringo
09-13-24, 07:26
He's the self-appointed leader of this forum.
You must be one of those simps he prattles on about.
Shame on you.It's the octagon, and I'm not the self appointed leader of anything. I do ***** and moan and shit post when drunk, because that's all I have to do in this current market in relation to the board. Like a couple fellow mongers here I've had to go back to dating because it's less drama and cheaper. And a quick look at his posts and it's clear he likes street urchins and the closer to death the better.
You're sure trying to pick a fight over a chick you've never fucked. Why the raging hard on for her if she's that horrible? Ever wonder how those fat ugly heifers get wifed up. Somebody out there thinks that sea cow is the shit and all they yearn for. Everyone is different. You have voiced your opinion on her more times than the white Knights have defended her and now you're embarrassing yourself and diminishing your credibility. It's ok with all of us and her if you don't want to fuck her but unless you're paying for my pussy, I'll read what you have to say and make up my own mind as to where to spend my cash.
It's the octagon, and I'm not the self appointed leader of anything. I do ***** and moan and shit post when drunk, because that's all I have to do in this current market in relation to the board. Like a couple fellow mongers here I've had to go back to dating because it's less drama and cheaper. And a quick look at his posts and it's clear he likes street urchins and the closer to death the better.
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