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Just curious. Not trying to start a battle. Could have read what you posted incorrectly. So asking for clarity. Did you two (VK and BM) actually mean to give a thumbs up to the article from November 2020 which was reviewing crime rates during Trumps Presidency? And say under Trump Crime was at an all-time low?I think what they were showing was that the trend started in 1993, during Bill Clinton's time so Bill Clinton should get the credit.
Typical that Trumptards give Trump credit for a 3. 4% unemployment rate (pre-Covid), but conveniently forgets that Barack Obama took it from 10.1% to 3. 8%. All Trump did was. . 7% in three years. Less than a percentage point. That's like saying his accomplishment was just not to screw up someone else's work.
Vinnie Kramer
09-10-21, 09:03
I'm merely presenting facts, and the fact is crime is down over the last 30 years or so. The original post claimed crime was increasing.
Given that most crimes are prosecuted at the state and local level, the president has little to do with the rate. State level programs are the driver, from laws being written to policing through to prosecution. The number of people incarcerated in state prisons is 10 X the number of federal prisons.
MuffDiverDan
09-10-21, 10:50
Personally I think Trump is over rated.
I'm merely presenting facts, and the fact is crime is down over the last 30 years or so. The original post claimed crime was increasing.
Given that most crimes are prosecuted at the state and local level, the president has little to do with the rate. State level programs are the driver, from laws being written to policing through to prosecution. The number of people incarcerated in state prisons is 10 X the number of federal prisons.The goal for republicans and democrats alike is to create a permanent underclass. Thats why they are focusing on going after stuff like the hobby, it saddles people with records and makes it difficult for them to get jobs and get by. And you can look at the statistics but alot of that is misleading because most of the crime in the big cities is off the charts. Its just that most of it doesn't get reported, because instead of going after dangerous criminals they make the easy arrests with DUI checkpoints and posting up a bogus ad drinking soda and eating bags of chips in a hotel room to slap average joe taxpayer with an "engaging in prostitution" and "criminal tools" charge. Also alot of the departments are short on officers as well, so that is even higher odds of big time criminals getting away with stuff while they are running other useless operations. It actually makes sense from their standpoint, everyone is against the police now, so work smart not hard and don't put yourself in any danger collect your check and get your pension. I'm sure alot of people would do the same thing if they were in their shoes.
Hillbilly Bob
09-10-21, 13:17
Personally I think Trump is over rated.Overrated or underrated he never murdered Americans like Hillary and Biden has.
The goal for republicans and democrats alike is to create a permanent underclass. Thats why they are focusing on going after stuff like the hobby, it saddles people with records and makes it difficult for them to get jobs and get by. And you can look at the statistics but alot of that is misleading because most of the crime in the big cities is off the charts. Its just that most of it doesn't get reported, because instead of going after dangerous criminals they make the easy arrests with DUI checkpoints and posting up a bogus ad drinking soda and eating bags of chips in a hotel room to slap average joe taxpayer with an "engaging in prostitution" and "criminal tools" charge. Also alot of the departments are short on officers as well, so that is even higher odds of big time criminals getting away with stuff while they are running other useless operations. It actually makes sense from their standpoint, everyone is against the police now, so work smart not hard and don't put yourself in any danger collect your check and get your pension. I'm sure alot of people would do the same thing if they were in their shoes.>>The goal for republicans and democrats alike is to create a permanent underclass.
As in, that's their actual goal? You think when they have zoom meetings that they have that as number one on their slide deck? When they have conferences in Vegas do the breakout sessions all start with reinforcing this big goal?
Just curious.
>>The goal for republicans and democrats alike is to create a permanent underclass.
As in, that's their actual goal? You think when they have zoom meetings that they have that as number one on their slide deck? When they have conferences in Vegas do the breakout sessions all start with reinforcing this big goal?
Just curious.But they are all in the pocket of bit political campaign contributors who probably do actively try to do that. So #1 on the slide deck is "How to keep my campaign donors happy". Which could mean cracking down on stupid laws that mostly affect the lower classes.
But they are all in the pocket of bit political campaign contributors who probably do actively try to do that. So #1 on the slide deck is "How to keep my campaign donors happy". Which could mean cracking down on stupid laws that mostly affect the lower classes.Thank you, for in a nutshell, summing up the point that my long message was trying to get across. This is exactly what will happen too. Look at when an attorney cop or doctor gets caught. Wrist slapped, back on the job they go. But if its an average joe it messes their life up much more severely. And again as I have stated before, the part I find the most ironic is the fact that the exact people who are fighting to punish people more in a hooker sting they don't even realize it but they have higher odds of getting caught then most of us on this board. Lets face it, everyone gets horny, and most of them who have never done it before would not know how to navigate the murky world of the hobby today. Meanwhile those like us we have witnessed the game evolve over the past few decades and know what type of things to look out for and to avoid. Absolutely fascinating and accurate if you think about it.
MuffDiverDan
09-10-21, 18:30
Overrated or underrated he never murdered Americans like Hillary and Biden has.He killed over 100 people who died of poisoning after he said drink bleach, and disinfectant, he's a fucking loon.
Overrated or underrated he never murdered Americans like Hillary and Biden has.When are the indictments for "murder" on Hillary expected? Maybe another 10 or 15 hours of testimony needed?
63 US service members died in Afghanistan while Trump was president. When will you be swearing out your complaint?
Tgd.
WanderingAbout
09-11-21, 01:08
The OPs pic of that rump is a sad look. Butt, it's better than some of the EB tushies some of you mongerloids are posting about. JS.
Personally I think Trump is over rated.
Overrated or underrated he never murdered Americans like Hillary and Biden has.Hillbilly, that was some Ignorant post. Damn, dude, stick to hookers instead of worshipping trump and defiling anyone in the other party. Fuck. "Murder"? The Hillary nonsense was cooked up by crazies crazier than Rudy, and of course, Joe strapped the bomb on the Isis suicide terrorist. Fuck. This is exactly what's wrong with my party, why can't we be sane and intelligent as a Republican??
I think what they were showing was that the trend started in 1993, during Bill Clinton's time so Bill Clinton should get the credit.
Typical that Trumptards give Trump credit for a 3. 4% unemployment rate (pre-Covid), but conveniently forgets that Barack Obama took it from 10.1% to 3. 8%. All Trump did was. . 7% in three years. Less than a percentage point. That's like saying his accomplishment was just not to screw up someone else's work.You're confusing them with real facts! This is a novel idea. I like.
You're confusing them with real facts! This is a novel idea. I like.The key is to type slower because you just know they can't read fast.
Trailblazer96
09-11-21, 18:38
Hillbilly, that was some Ignorant post. Damn, dude, stick to hookers instead of worshipping trump and defiling anyone in the other party. Fuck. "Murder"? The Hillary nonsense was cooked up by crazies crazier than Rudy, and of course, Joe strapped the bomb on the Isis suicide terrorist. Fuck. This is exactly what's wrong with my party, why can't we be sane and intelligent as a Republican??Then the loser football team you have probably rooted for your whole life. I don't think anyone who is a Bengal fan should comment on anything since you are obviously clinically insane. Always expecting a different result. Truthfully I have no idea why people hitch their horses up to either one of these wagons. Neither one could give two shits about none of you but you argue and call names like little kids defending them. Both parties are a big shit stain and should be embarrassed when they steal tax payers money.
Todd Cincy
09-11-21, 21:06
I don't come here to talk about politics, but I succumbed to a moment of weakness. I deleted it, but the delete function didn't work. Sorry, mod.
Hillbilly Bob
09-11-21, 21:11
Hillbilly, that was some Ignorant post. Damn, dude, stick to hookers instead of worshipping trump and defiling anyone in the other party. Fuck. "Murder"? The Hillary nonsense was cooked up by crazies crazier than Rudy, and of course, Joe strapped the bomb on the Isis suicide terrorist. Fuck. This is exactly what's wrong with my party, why can't we be sane and intelligent as a Republican??Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.
Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.I'll bite. So, please explain it then, in detail. Provide the who, what, when, where, and how. Be sure to state facts, not suppositions based on suspicions, based on guess work, based on a GOP wishful thinking wet dream.
Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.
So, please explain, (and I am just copying here) " the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist".
Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.Hillbilly I respect your knowledge of pussy and providers. The idea of "facts"? Huh?
You are saying that Hillary murdered someone. What??
You are saying Biden murdered someone. What??
That type of nonsense is what lost me with the party. And here's a fact, I'm not a left wing. Far from it.
Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.".Correction. 14 hours. I don't want to get accused of lying because of a typo. Just wanted to get it on record.
I am cross-posting this from the Escort thread to get additional perspectives.
I do some small business consulting and take a professional interest in how these things work. I have chatted with some women who are successful on OF. I typically catch them when they visit a sugar site trying to generate interest in their OF page. There are women in our area making $2-10 K+ per month with it. As with a lot of things, there is a power curve at work with a small percent of the women making the vast bulk of the money. However, these were not women who left an escort site. It is usually women who started in the cam world. Or who join OF as an alternative to being a sugar baby. Some of migrated from trying to do something similar on IG. The ones who earn the most are usually the ones who look the best.
The ones who are good at OF treat it as a job. They are putting in 5-6 hours a day, or more, creating and posting content. They also have to work their SM sites daily like a trapper working his trap lines. They need to post teaser content and cajole people in their DM's to give it a try. They lure men from Tinder to IG to Twitter and then to OF. They need a presence on Snap, Tinder, Twitter, IG and sometimes a few others like ManyVids. They have to post on OF about three times a day and they have to check frequently for special requests. They watch the sites of other women looking for ideas for new content. Most guys have no idea how hard it is to come up with fresh ideas, new costumes and new activity to avoid repetition.
The math is not as easy as some people make it sound. At a $20 subscription price, they need 100 steady customers to make $2 K. That's before the site takes its 20% cut. However, those men are fickle. Some are always leaving and new ones must be added. They can supplement the subscriptions by taking special requests but those take a lot of time that cannot be leveraged with the other subscribers. In short, OF is a business and takes an entrepreneurial spirit and approach to make money doing it. People who say OF has reduced the supply of other sex workers have to assume that these same women have the drive, energy, ambition and organizational skill to pull it off. I am skeptical.
BAM.
Todd Cincy
09-12-21, 20:37
I am cross-posting this from the Escort thread to get additional perspectives.
I do some small business consulting and take a professional interest in how these things work. I have chatted with some women who are successful on OF. I typically catch them when they visit a sugar site trying to generate interest in their OF page. There are women in our area making $2-10 K+ per month with it. As with a lot of things, there is a power curve at work with a small percent of the women making the vast bulk of the money. However, these were not women who left an escort site. It is usually women who started in the cam world. Or who join OF as an alternative to being a sugar baby. Some of migrated from trying to do something similar on IG. The ones who earn the most are usually the ones who look the best.
The ones who are good at OF treat it as a job. They are putting in 5-6 hours a day, or more, creating and posting content. They also have to work their SM sites daily like a trapper working his trap lines. They need to post teaser content and cajole people in their DM's to give it a try. They lure men from Tinder to IG to Twitter and then to OF. They need a presence on Snap, Tinder, Twitter, IG and sometimes a few others like ManyVids. They have to post on OF about three times a day and they have to check frequently for special requests. They watch the sites of other women looking for ideas for new content. Most guys have no idea how hard it is to come up with fresh ideas, new costumes and new activity to avoid repetition.
The math is not as easy as some people make it sound. At a $20 subscription price, they need 100 steady customers to make $2 K. That's before the site takes its 20% cut. However, those men are fickle. Some are always leaving and new ones must be added. They can supplement the subscriptions by taking special requests but those take a lot of time that cannot be leveraged with the other subscribers. In short, OF is a business and takes an entrepreneurial spirit and approach to make money doing it. People who say OF has reduced the supply of other sex workers have to assume that these same women have the drive, energy, ambition and organizational skill to pull it off. I am skeptical.
BAM.I'm also thinking that the OF customer base is different, too. I personally have very little interest in paying for photos and videos. I haven't paid for porn or photos for *years*.
Speaking of which, the OF girls are competing with free. The hub sites seem to have just about everything, from vintage porn to rough gangbangs. It's hard to imagine how the OF girls can compete with that.
Also: Thanks, Bam, for putting a post in this thread that did not include the words "Biden" or "Trump".
I'm also thinking that the OF customer base is different, too. I personally have very little interest in paying for photos and videos. I haven't paid for porn or photos for *years*.
Speaking of which, the OF girls are competing with free. The hub sites seem to have just about everything, from vintage porn to rough gangbangs. It's hard to imagine how the OF girls can compete with that.
Also: Thanks, Bam, for putting a post in this thread that did not include the words "Biden" or "Trump".The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.
The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.You hit the nail on the head! I would never pay for porn but on 2 separate occasions I found on IG hot ass tenants that had OF pages. It was a small price to pay to have videos of girls that I fantasize about whenever I see them.
It's like being a voyeur jacking off to something you should not be able to see. Also you can find out if they escort without the embarrassment of being turned down and outed.
Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.The party loonies jerked off to every one of those hearings shouting "Benghazi" every time they nutted! Oddly, they jerked off even MORE when Hillary was being interrogated?! I thought the loonies didn't like Hillary? Oh well, I guess everyone has their favorite jerk off fantasies, guess for loony crazy republicans it's Hillary in a pantsuit.
Dick Morehead
09-13-21, 12:27
The party loonies jerked off to every one of those hearings shouting "Benghazi" every time they nutted! Oddly, they jerked off even MORE when Hillary was being interrogated?! I thought the loonies didn't like Hillary? Oh well, I guess everyone has their favorite jerk off fantasies, guess for loony crazy republicans it's Hillary in a pantsuit.Here is what she said in those meetings "I did not murder those people". She learned that phrase from Bill LOL.
You hit the nail on the head! I would never pay for porn but on 2 separate occasions I found on IG hot ass tenants that had OF pages. It was a small price to pay to have videos of girls that I fantasize about whenever I see them.
It's like being a voyeur jacking off to something you should not be able to see. Also you can find out if they escort without the embarrassment of being turned down and outed.I dream daily of this. No dice yet LOL.
GoodWill123
09-13-21, 17:58
Football Sunday, I'm sitting with a bunch of my friends, some of them ex-military, law enforcement, and even former border patrol. This topic came up. Crime is the "worst they've ever seen", their words, not mine. And they do this for a living.
Below is a collage of recent articles from 2021, mostly the Summer of 2021, just recently. VIOLENT crimes hit the HIGHEST they have ever been in 2021. Keep in mind two things: Journalism is always PIT (point in time). Secondly, it's a function of what gets reported. I read where 14% of police force (average) have either early retired or resigned this year due to the BS they've had to put up with. So less arrests in some cites, equals less reported, simply because they can't address it all. But in their words, it's increasing. Just though these facts below might help, for anyone interested in this subject. Anyway, appreciate the original post.
CRIME 2021:
Denver crime up 22% in June since last year: So far, 2021 is looking even worse: https://kdvr.com/news/local/denver-crime-up-22-in-june-since-last-year/.
Chicago's most violent weekend of 2021:104 shot, 19 of them killed. 13 kids among the wounded: https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/3/22561910/chicago-weekend-shootings-july-2-5-homicide-gun-violence.
Chicago Gun Violence: 461 Shootings Reported in July, Up 15% From Last Year: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-gun-violence-461-shootings-reported-in-july-up-15-from-last-year/2575176/.
Murder rate soars in Los Angeles. The 179 homicides in the first six months of the year is the highest total in more than a decade: https://xtown.la/2021/07/16/murder-rate-soars/.
Deadly 4th of July Weekend: More than 230 people fatally shot in shootings over the Fourth of July weekend: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/05/us/us-shootings-july-fourth-weekend/index.html.
No question about it': Providence police officials say city is seeing a spike in violent crime: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2021/08/11/no-question-about-it-providence-police-officials-say-city-is-seeing-a-spike-in-violent-crime/.
NYPD: Shootings up 166%, fueling NYC crime surge: https://www.news10.com/news/ny-news/nypd-shootings-up-166-fueling-nyc-crime-surge/.
New York's Crime Wave: Murders are poised to drop below 2020 levels soon. But there and elsewhere, violence is still a lot worse than before the pandemic: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-07-30/new-york-s-crime-wave-is-showing-signs-of-breaking.
US Homicides continue to rise 2021: Report: Homicides Continue to Slowly Rise in the USA, While Other Violent Crime Rates Decline: https://time.com/6086558/us-homicides-violent-crime-rates/.
I'm merely presenting facts, and the fact is crime is down over the last 30 years or so. The original post claimed crime was increasing.
Given that most crimes are prosecuted at the state and local level, the president has little to do with the rate. State level programs are the driver, from laws being written to policing through to prosecution. The number of people incarcerated in state prisons is 10 X the number of federal prisons.
Here is what she said in those meetings "I did not murder those people". She learned that phrase from Bill LOL.Weren't you paying attention? According to Hillbilly Bob, there's a, "difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist". So if people die because you worked with a terrorist, you're a murderer.
Dick Morehead
09-13-21, 18:29
Hillbilly I respect your knowledge of pussy and providers. The idea of "facts"? Huh?
You are saying that Hillary murdered someone. What??
You are saying Biden murdered someone. What??
That type of nonsense is what lost me with the party. And here's a fact, I'm not a left wing. Far from it.No big loss to the party asshole! Put your frigging blindfold back on. Are you serious? When you look up 'liar' and 'evil' I the dictionary there are multiple pics of Hillary. If her lips are moving she is lying, how stupid are you Bengal Man? As far as Biden is concerned you are a stupid MF!
Football Sunday, I'm sitting with a bunch of my friends, some of them ex-military, law enforcement, and even former border patrol. This topic came up. Crime is the "worst they've ever seen", their words, not mine. And they do this for a living.None of that really means shit. It's what we call, "anecdotal. " Why would people charged with catching criminals ever perceive that crime is dropping? When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Also, those links you posted are articles, not studies. If I need to explain to you why that's an important distinction, then it wouldn't matter that I explained it to you. The fact that these all seem to be the friends you have probably distorts your world-view.
GoodWill123
09-13-21, 19:18
1. They do this for a living. They know the slope a line, trend. 2. Articles are factual, and based on studies. Just presenting the facts. You can do what you want with it.
By the way, my world view is just fine, but thank you. LOL, I have lots of friends by the way, all walks of life, but ill tell them you said that ().
None of that really means shit. It's what we call, "anecdotal. " Why would people charged with catching criminals ever perceive that crime is dropping? When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. The fact that these all seem to be the friends you have probably distorts your world-view.
All those links you posted are articles, not studies.
The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.This is the best explainer that I've seen for why OF flourishes in the face of free porn. I'll probably steal it and use it in a discussion somewhere else. Thanks!
1. They do this for a living. They know the slope a line, trend. 2. Articles are factual, and based on studies. Just presenting the facts. You can do what you want with it.
By the way, my world view is just fine, but thank you. LOL, I have lots of friends by the way, all walks of life, but ill tell them you said that ().LOL. Do that. Tell your friends, "ya know; I was just having this discussion on a hooker board, and blah bla".
Seriously, you seem like a nice enough sort, but I think you're misguided. I have a lot of friends from all walks of life and my own experiences. Some are pretty conservative; some with stump musters, special operations, and yeah, law enforcement.
I can promise you we tend to gravitate towards the folks we like to be around. That's why despite my association with people like that, I tend to skip the re-unions and meetups because I know I'll get tired fast of their blue-lives-matter-we're-so-persecuted bullshit.
I wish you the best. I'm sure you're earnest in your beliefs, but I think you're just another misguided person. Good luck.
GoodWill123
09-13-21, 19:35
Thank you. Likewise!
LOL. Do that. Tell your friends, "ya know; I was just having this discussion on a hooker board, and blah bla".
Seriously, you seem like a nice enough sort, but I think you're misguided. I have a lot of friends from all walks of life and my own experiences. Some are pretty conservative; some with stump musters, special operations, and yeah, law enforcement.
I can promise you we tend to gravitate towards the folks we like to be around. That's why despite my association with people like that, I tend to skip the re-unions and meetups because I know I'll get tired fast of their blue-lives-matter-we're-so-persecuted bullshit.
I wish you the best. I'm sure you're earnest in your beliefs, but I think you're just another misguided person. Good luck.
Todd Cincy
09-13-21, 20:54
That's an interesting perspective. And since I freely admit that I cannot understand the appeal of OF *at all*, I see no reason to dispute it.
I am now in my early 50's. There aren't too many women in my immediate peer group whom I'd pay to see naked. But circa 1995, yes, there may have been an appeal. And in 1985 (when I was in high school), I would have been all over the concept.
Nowadays, though, not so much.
The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.
No big loss to the party asshole! Put your frigging blindfold back on. Are you serious? When you look up 'liar' and 'evil' I the dictionary there are multiple pics of Hillary. If her lips are moving she is lying, how stupid are you Bengal Man? As far as Biden is concerned you are a stupid MF!You are one gay young man. Jerking off to Hillary while giving head to your boyfriend.
No big loss.
There is no sense to argue with retarded Socialist Democrats like DNUT & RogerOver etc.; They will soon be like their leader / false God Joe, and that is senile or better yet like his son Dumbo.
Vinnie Kramer
09-14-21, 08:05
For the trees.
There is no doubt, that YoY, some crime is up in some locations. But, as the charts I provided (which are based on government reporting) clearly indicated, crime is down significantly over the last 30 years or so.
And, crime in 2021 is likely less than 2019 and certainly going to be less than 2010 unless the criminals really turn it up in the 4th quarter.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-1
Football Sunday, I'm sitting with a bunch of my friends, some of them ex-military, law enforcement, and even former border patrol. This topic came up. Crime is the "worst they've ever seen", their words, not mine. And they do this for a living.
Below is a collage of recent articles from 2021, mostly the Summer of 2021, just recently. VIOLENT crimes hit the HIGHEST they have ever been in 2021. Keep in mind two things: Journalism is always PIT (point in time). Secondly, it's a function of what gets reported. I read where 14% of police force (average) have either early retired or resigned this year due to the BS they've had to put up with. So less arrests in some cites, equals less reported, simply because they can't address it all. But in their words, it's increasing. Just though these facts below might help, for anyone interested in this subject. Anyway, appreciate the original post.
CRIME 2021:
Denver crime up 22% in June since last year: So far, 2021 is looking even worse: https://kdvr.com/news/local/denver-crime-up-22-in-june-since-last-year/.
Chicago's most violent weekend of 2021:104 shot, 19 of them killed. 13 kids among the wounded: https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/3/22561910/chicago-weekend-shootings-july-2-5-homicide-gun-violence.
Chicago Gun Violence: 461 Shootings Reported in July, Up 15% From Last Year: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-gun-violence-461-shootings-reported-in-july-up-15-from-last-year/2575176/.
Murder rate soars in Los Angeles. The 179 homicides in the first six months of the year is the highest total in more than a decade: https://xtown.la/2021/07/16/murder-rate-soars/.
Deadly 4th of July Weekend: More than 230 people fatally shot in shootings over the Fourth of July weekend: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/05/us/us-shootings-july-fourth-weekend/index.html.
No question about it': Providence police officials say city is seeing a spike in violent crime: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2021/08/11/no-question-about-it-providence-police-officials-say-city-is-seeing-a-spike-in-violent-crime/.
NYPD: Shootings up 166%, fueling NYC crime surge: https://www.news10.com/news/ny-news/nypd-shootings-up-166-fueling-nyc-crime-surge/.
New York's Crime Wave: Murders are poised to drop below 2020 levels soon. But there and elsewhere, violence is still a lot worse than before the pandemic: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-07-30/new-york-s-crime-wave-is-showing-signs-of-breaking.
US Homicides continue to rise 2021: Report: Homicides Continue to Slowly Rise in the USA, While Other Violent Crime Rates Decline: https://time.com/6086558/us-homicides-violent-crime-rates/.
There is no sense to argue with retarded Socialist Democrats like DNUT & RogerOver etc.; They will soon be like their leader / false God Joe, and that is senile or better yet like his son Dumbo."False God". LOLOLOLOLOL Oh, the complete lack of self-awareness as well as self-own of this post. Hahahaha.
It ranks right up there with "stealing the election" (insurrection anyone), pro-life (repeal the Healthcare millions depend on as well as food programs that feed poor children), "Stand with the blue" (unless they try to stop you from overturning a fair election). It ranks right up there. It's rank.
"False God". LOLOLOLOLOL Oh, the complete lack of self-awareness as well as self-own of this post. Hahahaha.
It ranks right up there with "stealing the election" (insurrection anyone), pro-life (repeal the Healthcare millions depend on as well as food programs that feed poor children), "Stand with the blue" (unless they try to stop you from overturning a fair election). It ranks right up there. It's rank.How can someone support a guy that supports the mandate penalty that literally cost Americans thousands of dollars, poor americans at that! Or wrote the crime bill that put thousands of minorities in prison, and also targets things like the hobby! I understand why people voted for Biden because he wasnt Trump, but to actually think that he is a good president its just not reality. Respect for you DNut but I can't support what Biden is doing I just can't. And I'm a Dem. the only good thing hes done is support a womans right to choose. But if they really supported a womans right to choose, why is a woman or for that matter a man selling themself illegal as well? After all, what a certain Vice President did to get herself to get into that position is not all that different then what an escort does. just a thought.
1. They do this for a living. They know the slope a line, trend. 2. Articles are factual, and based on studies. Just presenting the facts. You can do what you want with it.
By the way, my world view is just fine, but thank you. LOL, I have lots of friends by the way, all walks of life, but ill tell them you said that ().Roger has a point on police reporting of crime and you have your point on crime is up. Think on this for a minute and reflect. The numbers are approximate because I do not have time to retrieve data from various sites. Basically, there has been about 1200 people cited for human trafficking and only 2 convictions! So, why is that? Well my thought is anything that is gray enough to be cited gets cited by police so they are busy and on the next cycle of grants they can say we arrested 1200 people for human trafficking to get more grant money! It would be nice if they had to report convictions instead, the grant money would be better used in other programs!!
How can someone support a guy that supports the mandate penalty that literally cost Americans thousands of dollars, poor americans at that!
Or wrote the crime bill that put thousands of minorities in prison, and also targets things like the hobby! I understand why people voted for Biden because he wasnt Trump, but to actually think that he is a good president its just not reality. Respect for you DNut but I can't support what Biden is doing I just can't. And I'm a Dem. the only good thing hes done is support a womans right to choose. But if they really supported a womans right to choose, why is a woman or for that matter a man selling themself illegal as well? After all, what a certain Vice President did to get herself to get into that position is not all that different then what an escort does. just a thought.Be specific as to what you're talking about. Cite the part of the ACA than penalizes poor people. Secondly, do you know how insurance works? In a nutshell, everyone pays a little, so when someone has an emergency, there are funds. It only works is if EVERYONE, sick and healthy, does their part. I don't mind paying for insurance even though I have not been seriously ill in over a decade. Why? Because I am not a selfish prock that only thinks of himself. And two, I don't know if I am going to have an emergency. Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
Also, why do right wing nut jobs only think in terms of personal benefit? It's like empathy doesn't exist in their bubble. Even John McCain, who is credited with saving the ACA, only voted to save it after he was diagnosed with brain cancer and he started experiencing for himself the cost of healthcare. Prior to that, he was pretty much towing the party line to repeal the ACA.
Your comments criticizing Joe Biden for writing (or supporting a crime bill that criminalizes "the HOBBY" . Let's not mince words. It is PROSTITUTION. But it seems you are only critical of it because YOU PERSONALLY benefit from it. Would you be as supportive of the hobby of you did not imbibe in it? Doubtful.
Empathy is lacking, or the "until it happens to you" syndrome is the hallmark of the GOP and their holier than though minions.
"False God". LOLOLOLOLOL Oh, the complete lack of self-awareness as well as self-own of this post. Hahahaha.
It ranks right up there with "stealing the election" (insurrection anyone), pro-life (repeal the Healthcare millions depend on as well as food programs that feed poor children), "Stand with the blue" (unless they try to stop you from overturning a fair election). It ranks right up there. It's rank.That's a good photo you posted if the so called racist President that did more for the black community in 4 years than Biden has done in 50. Me thinks you can't see the forest through the trees. Stick to ho reporting, you're very good at that.
Dick Morehead
09-14-21, 13:13
You are one gay young man. Jerking off to Hillary while giving head to your boyfriend.
No big loss.You are correct that I think more with my head, you are such a moron! I am a conservative not a left wing any thing goes liberal. If anyone is gay it's you dickwad. I won't fuck Hillary even with your tiny pecker. The only dick I see being sucked is you sucking Big Joe. You to remind me of each other, you both have two brains one is lost and the other ones out looking for it. You're a dumb fuck.
There is no sense to argue with retarded Socialist Democrats like DNUT & RogerOver etc.; They will soon be like their leader / false God Joe, and that is senile or better yet like his son Dumbo.There has never been a bigger False God in the history of the world than Donald J Trump. Trump, the guy who has been RIPPING OFF the little guy his entire life! The SAME people who have been worshipping and idolizing him. Yes, you guys. He has RIPPED YOU OFF for decades and so has his dad! He does not pay his workers. He does not pay his contractors. He hires ILLEGALS at all of his businesses and has for decades! Not by accident. On purpose so he can not pay them. It's absolutely Bizarre with a capital B that you guys idolize that.
Trump is the guy in this forum who would fuck the provider and then leave without paying. If you think that's "cool" then keep worshipping him.
And stop with the Social Democrat shit, it's just ignorant. I'm a free market capitalist so shove the demonizing names up your collective asses.
Roger has a point on police reporting of crime and you have your point on crime is up. Think on this for a minute and reflect. The numbers are approximate because I do not have time to retrieve data from various sites. Basically, there has been about 1200 people cited for human trafficking and only 2 convictions! So, why is that? Well my thought is anything that is gray enough to be cited gets cited by police so they are busy and on the next cycle of grants they can say we arrested 1200 people for human trafficking to get more grant money! It would be nice if they had to report convictions instead, the grant money would be better used in other programs!!This is absolutely correct.
After all, what a certain Vice President did to get herself to get into that position is not all that different then what an escort does. just a thought.BIZARRE and ignorant statement!
What? She did what?
Honestly some of you guys seem like YOU are the ones on drugs not the escorts.
There has never been a bigger False God in the history of the world than Donald J Trump. True that. Here's a photo of the Golden Cow at the CPAC convention in Florida. Literally A False God golden idol, as mentioned in the Bible.
And yet he claims people worship Joe Biden a false God. LOL. Seriously. The self own on this is off the rails.
I think this is completely accurate. However, I do not think it refutes my original point. There are lots of women on OF that scrape by making a small contribution from people like DN described. They do not get big numbers of men and the ones they get may not continue for very long. This is especially true if they are not frequently posting new stuff. I was only referring to the women who can use OF to make a living and take themselves off the escort sites. My point is that OF is not siphoning away significant numbers of women who would otherwise be playing.
On a related topic, I sometimes stumble across women on OF that I would not touch if you paid me. Some of them are really gross. Why are they there? Is someone actually paying to see them? I know there is a lid for every pot but there cannot be that many lids! Not for the cauldron sized pots!
Bam.
The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.
There has never been a bigger False God in the history of the world than Donald J Trump. Trump, the guy who has been RIPPING OFF the little guy his entire life! The SAME people who have been worshipping and idolizing him. Yes, you guys. He has RIPPED YOU OFF for decades and so has his dad! He does not pay his workers. He does not pay his contractors. He hires ILLEGALS at all of his businesses and has for decades! Not by accident. On purpose so he can not pay them. It's absolutely Bizarre with a capital B that you guys idolize that.
Trump is the guy in this forum who would fuck the provider and then leave without paying. If you think that's "cool" then keep worshipping him.
And stop with the Social Democrat shit, it's just ignorant. I'm a free market capitalist so shove the demonizing names up your collective asses.The only reason I voted for Thump was to piss off Socialist Democrats like you. The same reason you voted for Senile Joe.
ARegularGuy
09-14-21, 15:18
There is no sense to argue with retarded Socialist Democrats like DNUT & RogerOver etc.; They will soon be like their leader / false God Joe, and that is senile or better yet like his son Dumbo.Is that all you have is lame name calling? I suppose it's a fair substitute for not having or understanding any real facts.
Trailblazer96
09-14-21, 17:59
True that. Here's a photo of the Golden Cow at the CPAC convention in Florida. Literally A False God golden idol, as mentioned in the Bible.
And yet he claims people worship Joe Biden a false God. LOL. Seriously. The self own on this is off the rails.Dude you and loser Bengal Boy are ate up with Trump. He is gone now so get over it. Slamming on him doesn't affect the smart peoples thoughts on how shitty Biden is. Keep your blinders on as Bengal Boy does with his shitty football club thinking everything is going well. Trump is GONE now MOVE on!! Damn broken fucking record.
BIZARRE and ignorant statement!
What? She did what?
Honestly some of you guys seem like YOU are the ones on drugs not the escorts.I never specified which vice president. But I mean if its who you think it is read up on it.
Dude you and loser Bengal Boy are ate up with Trump. He is gone now so get over it. Slamming on him doesn't affect the smart peoples thoughts on how shitty Biden is. Keep your blinders on as Bengal Boy does with his shitty football club thinking everything is going well. Trump is GONE now MOVE on!! Damn broken fucking record.The photo of the Golden Trump cow statue was taken at the CPAC convention in March 2021 BTW, what was the last date My Pillow guy predicted Trump would return to power? There was August, then September, now. December, is it?
It's really you and your ilk that can't let him go.
Need some advice from anyone who has had this offer.
I met a couple online (and verified them) who wants a man to fuck her while the husband watches. I did verify them, and they get off on it. She is damn good looking in my eyes; very curvy, an above-average MILF who apparently is no-holds bar (and no hole barred either) who wants to be treated shall we say, "shabbly" both verbally and physically (just shy of Trevor Bauer).
I'd rather not spring for a hotel that might cost $$ when said and done; wondering if anyone has used an AirBnB that is open to being used for a tryst. I had one about 5 years ago; the guy wanted just $40 a pop, and off the books. But he has since moved away. I wasn't sure if anyone else had an ideas.
Or hell, rent me your house or apt!
Much thanks.
FatDaddy3750
09-15-21, 13:50
Need some advice from anyone who has had this offer.
I met a couple online (and verified them) who wants a man to fuck her while the husband watches. I did verify them, and they get off on it. She is damn good looking in my eyes; very curvy, an above-average MILF who apparently is no-holds bar (and no hole barred either) who wants to be treated shall we say, "shabbly" both verbally and physically (just shy of Trevor Bauer).
I'd rather not spring for a hotel that might cost $$ when said and done; wondering if anyone has used an AirBnB that is open to being used for a tryst. I had one about 5 years ago; the guy wanted just $40 a pop, and off the books. But he has since moved away. I wasn't sure if anyone else had an ideas.
Or hell, rent me your house or apt!
Much thanks.Just spring for a room. If you won't, I will.
Trailblazer96
09-15-21, 13:55
The photo of the Golden Trump cow statue was taken at the CPAC convention in March 2021 BTW, what was the last date My Pillow guy predicted Trump would return to power? There was August, then September, now. December, is it?
It's really you and your ilk that can't let him go.You know nothing about me but you have shown your left wingest ass out for all to see. I could give to fucks about a pillow guy or Trump. You are so fixated on him you can't see past the end of your dick. You bash on a guy for having a orgy in Russia when he wasn't president but would suck Bill Clintons dick the moment those other ****** in the White House which we are paying his salary and his room and board for him to enjoy. If you want to continue go ahead but neither side is worth a flying fuck and until we put term limits in it will never change since I know you are smart enough to know the President is just a figurehead and the House of Dinosaurs and the kids in the sandbox are in control. I back neither side because I choice to be a free thinking American. I will pull a quote from the ex great football coach from the great Cincinnati Bengals " I see a lot better then I hear. " Keep the blinders on bud and continue on hell you might be lucky and be on the next Jerry Springer show.
You know nothing about me but you have shown your left wingest ass out for all to see. I could give to fucks about a pillow guy or Trump. You are so fixated on him you can't see past the end of your dick. You bash on a guy for having a orgy in Russia when he wasn't president but would suck Bill Clintons dick the moment those other ****** in the White House which we are paying his salary and his room and board for him to enjoy. If you want to continue go ahead but neither side is worth a flying fuck and until we put term limits in it will never change since I know you are smart enough to know the President is just a figurehead and the House of Dinosaurs and the kids in the sandbox are in control. I back neither side because I choice to be a free thinking American. I will pull a quote from the ex great football coach from the great Cincinnati Bengals " I see a lot better then I hear. " Keep the blinders on bud and continue on hell you might be lucky and be on the next Jerry Springer show.I guess we need to extend "free thinking" to "grammatically incorrect","run on sentences" and "I can't fucking spell" Americans.
You know nothing about me but you have shown your left wingest ass out for all to see. I could give to fucks about a pillow guy or Trump. You are so fixated on him you can't see past the end of your dick. You bash on a guy for having a orgy in Russia when he wasn't president but would suck Bill Clintons dick the moment those other ****** in the White House which we are paying his salary and his room and board for him to enjoy. If you want to continue go ahead but neither side is worth a flying fuck and until we put term limits in it will never change since I know you are smart enough to know the President is just a figurehead and the House of Dinosaurs and the kids in the sandbox are in control. I back neither side because I choice to be a free thinking American. I will pull a quote from the ex great football coach from the great Cincinnati Bengals " I see a lot better then I hear. " Keep the blinders on bud and continue on hell you might be lucky and be on the next Jerry Springer show.Pretty sure you do care about the Pillow Guy and Trump. Otherwise, why get all upset over posts about Mike Lindell and the twice impeached former president? A simple search of your posts reveal that from posting about hookers, you just jump right in insulting those who insulted the Dear Leader of the January 6 Insurrectionists.
This post of yours is called a, "backpedal". It's what happens when people lose the argument, and they know they lost the argument, but their ego can't bring themselves to admit that they lost the argument. So, they (you) throw up a smoke bomb full of nonsense and foul language, and try to sneak away ninja style. You even try to cloak yourself in the "I choice (SP?) to be a free thinking American" nomenclature, when clearly, you are not. It's such a predictable pattern. I've seen it a lot. Seen it a whole lot in my previous job.
I guess we need to extend "free thinking" to "grammatically incorrect","run on sentences" and "I can't fucking spell" Americans.This guy is the poster boy of the new crazy right republicans. 6th grade education, IQ in double digits.
I never specified which vice president. But I mean if its who you think it is read up on it.I looked it up, you meant Dan Quayle. Sorry my mistake.
The only reason I voted for Thump was to piss off Socialist Democrats like you. The same reason you voted for Senile Joe.The fact that you think that big-D Democrats are socialists says a lot more about about you than it does about them. Are Democrats to the left of the GOP socially and economically? Yeah, absolutely. Socialist? LOL no. Not by any definition of the word. American Dems aren't even left of the center on a global scale. Wanting to raise taxes on rich people and corporations is not socialism. Ditto on a public option for health care. Its a lot more complex than that. Sigh.
wondering if anyone has used an AirBnB that is open to being used for a tryst. I had one about 5 years ago; the guy wanted just $40 a pop, and off the books. But he has since moved away. I wasn't sure if anyone else had an ideas.
Or hell, rent me your house or apt!
Much thanks.I haven't done it, but I think it would be pretty easy to do, right? Certainly cheaper than a hotel option, and similarly low risk.
Trailblazer96
09-15-21, 19:42
Pretty sure you do care about the Pillow Guy and Trump. Otherwise, why get all upset over posts about Mike Lindell and the twice impeached former president? A simple search of your posts reveal that from posting about hookers, you just jump right in insulting those who insulted the Dear Leader of the January 6 Insurrectionists.
This post of yours is called a, "backpedal". It's what happens when people lose the argument, and they know they lost the argument, but their ego can't bring themselves to admit that they lost the argument. So, they (you) throw up a smoke bomb full of nonsense and foul language, and try to sneak away ninja style. You even try to cloak yourself in the "I choice (SP?) to be a free thinking American" nomenclature, when clearly, you are not. It's such a predictable pattern. I've seen it a lot. Seen it a whole lot in my previous job.Thank you and glad you are here. Hopefully it makes you feel better about yourself.
Pretty sure you do care about the Pillow Guy and Trump. Otherwise, why get all upset over posts about Mike Lindell and the twice impeached former president? A simple search of your posts reveal that from posting about hookers, you just jump right in insulting those who insulted the Dear Leader of the January 6 Insurrectionists.
This post of yours is called a, "backpedal". It's what happens when people lose the argument, and they know they lost the argument, but their ego can't bring themselves to admit that they lost the argument. So, they (you) throw up a smoke bomb full of nonsense and foul language, and try to sneak away ninja style. You even try to cloak yourself in the "I choice (SP?) to be a free thinking American" nomenclature, when clearly, you are not. It's such a predictable pattern. I've seen it a lot. Seen it a whole lot in my previous job.I love how all Biden supporters, notice I say Biden supporters because I'm a dem myself, immediately go to January 6th and talk about how horrible it was. Don't get me wrong it was, but if that were to have been Biden instead of Trump everyone would have worshipped the ground he walked on. And its hilarious how nobody talks about all of the riots in cities. I find hurting a small business owner like they did in Minn and what those guys did to get that Missouri couple charged far more offensive then what the capitol rioters did.
I love how all Biden supporters, notice I say Biden supporters because I'm a dem myself, immediately go to January 6th and talk about how horrible it was. Don't get me wrong it was, but if that were to have been Biden instead of Trump everyone would have worshipped the ground he walked on. And its hilarious how nobody talks about all of the riots in cities. I find hurting a small business owner like they did in Minn and what those guys did to get that Missouri couple charged far more offensive then what the capitol rioters did.It's always amazing that the brainwashed resort to, "If that was Biden. " when called out on bad behaviour. Biden did not instigate an insurrection. Obama did not instigate an insurrection. Neither did Bush, Clinton, the elder Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy. Going all the way back to Adams. George Washington did, but that was against the British crown. No US President has ever instigated an insurrection against the US government because they lost an election. No former US president other than Trump has continued to lie about the election they lost, to undermine the democratic process. Trump. Only Trump has ever done this. "If that was Biden. ". It wasn't. It was Donald Trump.
Donald Trump still continues to try to undermine the electoral process. Even in the California recall election; a state that votes solidly Democrat, he has been peddling the "rigged election" nonsense. It's nonsense because Democrats don't need to rig the elections in California to win.
"If it was Joe Biden. " is a fool's mantra. It's easy to wax "what ifs", and "could haves", and "If its" because you never have to back up hypothetical with facts. But the fact is, Donald Trump instigated that insurrection attempt in a desperate bid to hold on to power the people took away form him, with a supra majority of over 7 million votes. That's not hypothetical. That's fact.
Bobby Linn
09-15-21, 23:11
This guy is the poster boy of the new crazy right republicans. 6th grade education, IQ in double digits.Just to jog everyones memory, RogerOver use to go by the name TechSticles. He got permanently banned for being a narcissistic asshole among other shit. Prior to that he used another name, which I can't be bothered to remember, he changed that name because he smarted off to some guys in Florida who called him out for being a punk. Now he has the new name (RogerOver) and a yes man sucking his dick in 'PussyCat Man". Basically they need to just say, when one or the other posts, is "Yeah what he said". Who gives a rats ass what either one of them has to say as commentary on 'every' post that comes along. Not me, I've just blocked both of these ignorant slobs, they are really boring!
It's always amazing that the brainwashed resort to, "If that was Biden. " when called out on bad behaviour. Biden did not instigate an insurrection. Obama did not instigate an insurrection. Neither did Bush, Clinton, the elder Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy. Going all the way back to Adams. George Washington did, but that was against the British crown. No US President has ever instigated an insurrection against the US government because they lost an election. No former US president other than Trump has continued to lie about the election they lost, to undermine the democratic process. Trump. Only Trump has ever done this. "If that was Biden. ". It wasn't. It was Donald Trump.
Donald Trump still continues to try to undermine the electoral process. Even in the California recall election; a state that votes solidly Democrat, he has been peddling the "rigged election" nonsense. It's nonsense because Democrats don't need to rig the elections in California to win.
"If it was Joe Biden. " is a fool's mantra. It's easy to wax "what ifs", and "could haves", and "If its" because you never have to back up hypothetical with facts. But the fact is, Donald Trump instigated that insurrection attempt in a desperate bid to hold on to power the people took away form him, with a supra majority of over 7 million votes. That's not hypothetical. That's fact.Alright so I'm genuinely curious, what do you like about Biden?
Alright so I'm genuinely curious, what do you like about Biden?In one sentence, "It's not about him. ".
He does his job and doesn't make it about himself. He pushes people to take the vaccine and doesn't make it about him. He pushes Healthcare legislation and doesn't make it about him. He will work with NATO and other alias and doesn't make it about him. When people insult him and doesn't make it about him and go on some Twitter and social media tirade like a Ritalin infused 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum in Disneyland. When he attends church service, as he does every Sunday and doesn't make it about him. When Senators like Mitch McConnell goad him into passing legislation without GOP support, and doesn't make it about him.
Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, the other Bush, Reagan, Carter going all the way back to the founding fathers, they did their jobs and did so without making it about them like a narcissistic blow hard who has to self-praise with everything they do.
Biden doesn't make it about him.
Alright so I'm genuinely curious, what do you like about Biden?Ok!
He's normal, he's stable, he's respectful, he doesn't incite insurrections against his own government, he doesn't side with Putin over his own country, he isn't a racist, he has 47 years of government experience, he's not fleecing the government to enrich his own businesses, he put anything he owns into a trust, he supports military leaders, he is widely respected by world leaders, he doesn't try to extort world leaders, he didn't need Russia to help him win an election, he doesn't bully intelligence agencies, he doesn't lie about election results, he believes in science, he believes in man-induced climate change, he believes in religion, he is a Christian, he doesn't say that he has nothing to ask forgiveness for, he doesn't cheat on his taxes, he pays contractors for work they did for him, he doesn't have a fake charity, he doesn't have a fake university, he was a US Senator, he knows not to inject Lysol, and he believes in military service and "true" patriotism, not simply flag worshipping.
Alright so I'm genuinely curious, what do you like about Biden?I forgot to add, Biden didn't fuck a porn star, lie about it, try to pay her off, lie about it, and be named an unindicted co-conspirator in the illegal payoff.
I went to the lucky yesterday there has a new girl name Tina she is cute and good massage.
I forgot to add, Biden didn't fuck a porn star, lie about it, try to pay her off, lie about it, and be named an unindicted co-conspirator in the illegal payoff.What! I can't believe a twice divorced, three times married, baby daddy to 3 women who would barge into the dressing room of MissTeen USA while they were changing, would cheat with his 3rd wife who just had a baby, with a porn star and pay her off to not tell anyone! I don't believe it. It's so out of character.
I mean, he and his 3 oldest children were convicted in court of stealing money from a charity that was earmarked for children with cancer and disabled veterans, causing the judge to order their "charity" / piggy bank to be shuttered and them banned from being officers of a charity ever again, but paying off a porn star is so out of character.
Say it ain't so. I am shocked!
On a side note. I am reading a book, "The Art of the Sarcastic Run On Sentence". Highly recommended.
Just to jog everyones memory, RogerOver use to go by the name TechSticles. He got permanently banned for being a narcissistic asshole among other shit. Prior to that he used another name, which I can't be bothered to remember, he changed that name because he smarted off to some guys in Florida who called him out for being a punk. Now he has the new name (RogerOver) and a yes man sucking his dick in 'PussyCat Man". Basically they need to just say, when one or the other posts, is "Yeah what he said". Who gives a rats ass what either one of them has to say as commentary on 'every' post that comes along. Not me, I've just blocked both of these ignorant slobs, they are really boring!He is a huge douche.
Dick Morehead
09-16-21, 13:30
I forgot to add, Biden didn't fuck a porn star, lie about it, try to pay her off, lie about it, and be named an unindicted co-conspirator in the illegal payoff.Didn't happen in the Oval Office while he was President with some very young girl like Hillary's 'Daddy'! Again you make such dumb shit remarks without thinking about it. You are such a loser.
I forgot to add, Biden didn't fuck a porn star, lie about it, try to pay her off, lie about it, and be named an unindicted co-conspirator in the illegal payoff.All unproven allegations and her lawyer is in jail. So there's that, although Hunter Biden is a criminal but can't be prosecuted because daddy is president.
Alright so I'm genuinely curious, what do you like about Biden?Another one:
In his words, he's "tired of rich people not paying taxes".
Just wow. You are drinking the Kool-Aid aren't you? I can't believe you think any of that us actually true. He's been fleecing the government for 47 years because he's a politician. It's what they do.
Ok!
He's normal, he's stable, he's respectful, he doesn't incite insurrections against his own government, he doesn't side with Putin over his own country, he isn't a racist, he has 47 years of government experience, he's not fleecing the government to enrich his own businesses, he put anything he owns into a trust, he supports military leaders, he is widely respected by world leaders, he doesn't try to extort world leaders, he didn't need Russia to help him win an election, he doesn't bully intelligence agencies, he doesn't lie about election results, he believes in science, he believes in man-induced climate change, he believes in religion, he is a Christian, he doesn't say that he has nothing to ask forgiveness for, he doesn't cheat on his taxes, he pays contractors for work they did for him, he doesn't have a fake charity, he doesn't have a fake university, he was a US Senator, he knows not to inject Lysol, and he believes in military service and "true" patriotism, not simply flag worshipping.
Another one:
In his words, he's "tired of rich people not paying taxes".This is laughable at best and another lie. Ol lunchbucket Joe has 4 homes that he's formed S corporations for, the sole purpose of which is to AVOID PAYING TAXES! You are special.
This is laughable at best and another lie. Ol lunchbucket Joe has 4 homes that he's formed S corporations for, the sole purpose of which is to AVOID PAYING TAXES! You are special.I bet you posted that without checking his tax returns. It's publicly available. How about we check all the returns of past presidents to see which ones have been avoiding paying taxes.
The thing about Joe Biden being in government for 50 years, is we have 50 years of public financial disclosures available.
With that, we know he bought his first house in the early 70's when his first wife and daughter died. He still owns the home. We know he bought a second house in the 80's for $180 k and has steadily made improvements over 30 years to increase the value. We also know he was going to sell the house to pay for his son's cancer treatment in 2017. But President Obama offered to give him the money to not sell the house. Netflix just paid the Obamas $60 million for their series so we know where that money came from.
Wasn't there a former government official who hasn't disclosed his financials, claiming they're under fraud it. Oops. Sorry. Typo. I mean, "audit".
So it seems we know where the Bidens and the Obamas, and the Bushes, and the Clintons, and the Reagan, and the Carters, got their money. Who's missing from that list?
Todd Cincy
09-16-21, 20:38
The most decent human being to occupy the White House in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter was, and is, truly a good man.
I also remember the Carter years as a time of high inflation, energy crises, and weak leadership.
Now, to be fair, Carter inherited many problems. And the Tehran Hostage Crisis (which consumed the last year of his presidency) was not entirely his fault.
George W Bush was another good man (picking the other party for balance) whose presidency was, in retrospect, a disaster. He got us into two avoidable Middle East forever wars on credit, after Bill Clinton paid down the debt.
Bill Clinton, on the other hand, has always been a shifty character. I voted against him in both '92 and '96. But the Clinton years were great, in retrospect. Clinton was a fiscal conservative who paid down the debt. He was practical, not ideological.
I don't believe that Joe Biden is pure evil incarnate. I don't give two hoots in a rain barrel about his tax returns. But I am concerned that Biden is in thrall to the AOC wing of his party, and I'm very concerned about rampant inflation driven by money-printing.
Every economist knows that inflation rises when the government prints money. Today, Biden even hinted at price controls, a bad idea from the Nixon era that leads to shortages.
This is not going well so far.
For me, the question is not: who is the best person? Because the answer to that is: Jimmy Carter. The question for me is: Who will *not* screw things up too badly? And 8 months into his presidency, the Biden administration gives me cause for concern.
I bet you posted that without checking his tax returns. It's publicly available. How about we check all the returns of past presidents to see which ones have been avoiding paying taxes.
The thing about Joe Biden being in government for 50 years, is we have 50 years of public financial disclosures available.
With that, we know he bought his first house in the early 70's when his first wife and daughter died. He still owns the home. We know he bought a second house in the 80's for $180 k and has steadily made improvements over 30 years to increase the value. We also know he was going to sell the house to pay for his son's cancer treatment in 2017. But President Obama offered to give him the money to not sell the house. Netflix just paid the Obamas $60 million for their series so we know where that money came from.
Wasn't there a former government official who hasn't disclosed his financials, claiming they're under fraud it. Oops. Sorry. Typo. I mean, "audit".
So it seems we know where the Bidens and the Obamas, and the Bushes, and the Clintons, and the Reagan, and the Carters, got their money. Who's missing from that list?
The most decent human being to occupy the White House in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter was, and is, truly a good man.
I also remember the Carter years as a time of high inflation, energy crises, and weak leadership.
Now, to be fair, Carter inherited many problems. And the Tehran Hostage Crisis (which consumed the last year of his presidency) was not entirely his fault.
George W Bush was another good man (picking the other party for balance) whose presidency was, in retrospect, a disaster. He got us into two avoidable Middle East forever wars on credit, after Bill Clinton paid down the debt.
Bill Clinton, on the other hand, has always been a shifty character. I voted against him in both '92 and '96. But the Clinton years were great, in retrospect. Clinton was a fiscal conservative who paid down the debt. He was practical, not ideological.
I don't believe that Joe Biden is pure evil incarnate. I don't give two hoots in a rain barrel about his tax returns. But I am concerned that Biden is in thrall to the AOC wing of his party, and I'm very concerned about rampant inflation driven by money-printing.
Every economist knows that inflation rises when the government prints money. Today, Biden even hinted at price controls, a bad idea from the Nixon era that leads to shortages.
This is not going well so far.
For me, the question is not: who is the best person? Because the answer to that is: Jimmy Carter. The question for me is: Who will *not* screw things up too badly? And 8 months into his presidency, the Biden administration gives me cause for concern.Although I mostly agree with you, there are a few things that you are ignoring. These first 8 months of the Biden Presidency has been consumed with righting a sinking ship. 2 things drive the Biden Administration; ending the pandemic (which conservatives seem intent on prolonging by pushing misinformation and convincing people not to get vaccinated or tested), and restarting a global and national economy whose workforce has been decimated by the pandemic.
This is very much like the first year of the Obama years. President Obama spent the first year righting the effects of global economic meltdown. It took him that year, then the economy recovered, then the economy flourished.
As you pointed out, Bush inherited a balanced budgets from Clinton, and was paying down the debt. Trump inherited from Obama a stable and upswing economy after driving unemployment from over 10% to under 4%. Biden inherited an economy in shambles. You can say Trump didn't cause it, but Biden did inherit it.
Is 8 months enough time?
Why doesn't the administration of this group start a forum just for political discussions. Instead of having it here amongst topics that might be related to what this forum is about. People have been arguing about politics since there have been politicians. No one is going to change their views. So start a forum or section that covers political issues and if you're interested check it out.
In one sentence, "It's not about him. ".
He does his job and doesn't make it about himself. He pushes people to take the vaccine and doesn't make it about him. He pushes Healthcare legislation and doesn't make it about him. He will work with NATO and other alias and doesn't make it about him. When people insult him and doesn't make it about him and go on some Twitter and social media tirade like a Ritalin infused 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum in Disneyland. When he attends church service, as he does every Sunday and doesn't make it about him. When Senators like Mitch McConnell goad him into passing legislation without GOP support, and doesn't make it about him.
Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, the other Bush, Reagan, Carter going all the way back to the founding fathers, they did their jobs and did so without making it about them like a narcissistic blow hard who has to self-praise with everything they do.
Biden doesn't make it about him.I understand all of what you're saying, but what's your opinion on all of his racist comments? He also supports the mandate penalty that hurts the poor rather then just making healthcare fully universal. And also authored the crime bill that has made several states "Three strike " states which targets minorities. If you're solely comparing him to Trump OK, but in the long run those three things right there are a BIG problem.
Why doesn't the administration of this group start a forum just for political discussions. Instead of having it here amongst topics that might be related to what this forum is about. People have been arguing about politics since there have been politicians. No one is going to change their views. So start a forum or section that covers political issues and if you're interested check it out.Thats kind of what this section is for to an extent. And politicians directly do affect the hobby. Hell, the one thing I love about AOC is that she supports decriminalizing the hobby. I'm sure A2 would moderate or ask for the political talk to stop if he has a problem with it, which those on this board who are decent definitely would stop. But if I were to bet he probably gets a kick out of this section of the forum to an extent. LOL.
I understand all of what you're saying, but what's your opinion on all of his racist comments? He also supports the mandate penalty that hurts the poor rather then just making healthcare fully universal. And also authored the crime bill that has made several states "Three strike " states which targets minorities. If you're solely comparing him to Trump OK, but in the long run those three things right there are a BIG problem.Be specific on what racist comments you mean. Be specific on the what mandate you're talking about. This us a habit the GOP has. Make allegations that fire up their base, without being specific.
But if I were to guess, you want to talk about stuff that happened in the early 90's because you can't find anything more recent. Why don't we keep the discussion about things that happened in this millennium? That's 21 years of history.
Why doesn't the administration of this group start a forum just for political discussions. .The name of this thread is, " Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon" ". We rant, we race, and we voice opinion. If you were around before it was created, you'll understand that it was the desire to get political arguments out of the review threads that sparked it's creation. It's intended to be a catch all for things not hobby related.
Be specific on what racist comments you mean. Be specific on the what mandate you're talking about. This us a habit the GOP has. Make allegations that fire up their base, without being specific.
But if I were to guess, you want to talk about stuff that happened in the early 90's because you can't find anything more recent. Why don't we keep the discussion about things that happened in this millennium? That's 21 years of history.Alright I could bring up the one he made about Obama in 2007, but this one sticks out far more. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/05/22/biden-charlamagne-trump-black/ I'm talking about the penalty if you couldn't afford the hiked up health insurance that Obama instituted but trump removed. Either keep the health care system as is, or make it fully universal.
The name of this thread is, " Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon" ". We rant, we race, and we voice opinion. If you were around before it was created, you'll understand that it was the desire to get political arguments out of the review threads that sparked it's creation. It's intended to be a catch all for things not hobby related.I was around and understand the reasons for this. With that said it was born out of a necessity to bring arguments from other threads here as to not bog down a particular thread, and a place to be a catch all. At least that is my opinion. With that said arguing over republicans and democrats and which is better is a stalemate of opinions. Arguing over particular laws or policy that may effect us is not. The two parties and their followers have been at each other's throat since they were formed, nothing is going to change that. I guess ultimately there is no way to filter out the bullshit. It is tiresome trying to find the interesting posts amongst all political banter of which party is better. Oh well, in every life a little rain must fall.
Dick Morehead
09-17-21, 09:17
Another one:
In his words, he's "tired of rich people not paying taxes".Are you f'in kidding? Top 10% income earners pay over 70% of ALL taxes paid, about 20% of their income. The bottom 50% of income earners pay 2. 9% of ALL taxes paid, about 3. 4% of their income. The bottom wage earners also collect 99% of federal and state handouts. Maybe he ought to change his "tired" words. I also wonder how much tax he and his 'boy', Hunter Biden, have paid in taxes on the money they have made on overseas 'contracts'?
II guess ultimately there is no way to filter out the bullshit. It is tiresome trying to find the interesting posts amongst all political banter of which party is better. Oh well, in every life a little rain must fall.As Ghandi once did not say, "Be the change you want to see in the world. ". (this quote often misattributed to Ghandi is actually by Arleen Lorrance). Instead of waiting for a topic that does interest you, you can start your own discussion. You can even start your own thread in the area where you find the threads on Sugarbabies, or High Honorarium Hotties. Those are all user created.
This is laughable at best and another lie. Ol lunchbucket Joe has 4 homes that he's formed S corporations for, the sole purpose of which is to AVOID PAYING TAXES! You are special.Nice try. Plain Lie.
How can people who are so terrific about knowing pussy be so blinded with stupidity on government?
wondering if anyone has used an AirBnB that is open to being used for a tryst. I had one about 5 years ago; the guy wanted just $40 a pop, and off the books. But he has since moved away. I wasn't sure if anyone else had an ideas.I use them constantly with my harem of cheating housewives. We all love it. (Have been thinking about doing it with a hooker but seems too risky). I use one near Wyoming we call the Love Shack which is the guest house of some lady that I've never met. Great find. $75 all in and way nicer than a hotel of the same price. I don't even need to contact her about checking in anymore, I know where the key is. I make her aware that I'll only be there certain hours. We leave each other good reviews and that's that. With any Airbnb I leave the place cleaner than I found it -sans the sheets;).
GoodWill123
09-17-21, 11:11
DMoreH, you're exactly right. What you state is factual, and it's research-able. Too much to list here. In fact these are slightly older stat's. With the recent pandemic, the top earners in America (call them the 10% pay closer to 75% of all the taxes that go to the Treasury. They also give the largest percentage of charitable and benevolence giving, as percentage, that towers over the rest of the US population. They are also the largest job providers as a ratio of person / employee per capita. Even Democrat Politicians acknowledge all this.
One stat that's absent from this is the fact that 60% of Americans pay NO INCOME TAXES at all. NONE! And buy cars too. And on top of that, for those who don't work, with government assistance, the average annual "imputed / assisted" income is 49 K annually (I use the term imputed lightly, as it's not technically imputed, as it's mostly Gov't assistance). So with all that, I find it hard to fathom comments like "the rich need to pay their fair share. " Their taxes are the ones that keep going up and up, while those on the other end of the spectrum pay no taxes, and get more assistance than any $ for $ than any other immigrant. This doesn't even include what illegal alien status immigrants get. That's a whole other story. I agree there needs to be more balance, but to say the "rich" aren't paying, I think that's a stretch guys.
All in all, It's a shaded form of socialism, and it's growing. One thing about Socialism that most people don't realize until it's too late is that with Socialism, not only do the Rich become poorer, but the Poor become even more poor.
Anyway, thanks for posting that DMoreH. I was wondering who might respond to that.
Are you f'in kidding? Top 10% income earners pay over 70% of ALL taxes paid, about 20% of their income. The bottom 50% of income earners pay 2. 9% of ALL taxes paid, about 3. 4% of their income. The bottom wage earners also collect 99% of federal and state handouts. Maybe he ought to change his "tired" words. I also wonder how much tax he and his 'boy', Hunter Biden, have paid in taxes on the money they have made on overseas 'contracts'?
FatDaddy3750
09-17-21, 11:41
DMoreH, you're exactly right. What you state is factual, and it's research-able. Too much to list here. In fact these are slightly older stat's. With the recent pandemic, the top earners in America (call them the 10% pay closer to 75% of all the taxes that go to the Treasury. They also give the largest percentage of charitable and benevolence giving, as percentage, that towers over the rest of the US population. They are also the largest job providers as a ratio of person / employee per capita. Even Democrat Politicians acknowledge all this.
One stat that's absent from this is the fact that 60% of Americans pay NO INCOME TAXES at all. NONE! And buy cars too. And on top of that, for those who don't work, with government assistance, the average annual "imputed / assisted" income is 49 K annually (I use the term imputed lightly, as it's not technically imputed, as it's mostly Gov't assistance). So with all that, I find it hard to fathom comments like "the rich need to pay their fair share. " Their taxes are the ones that keep going up and up, while those on the other end of the spectrum pay no taxes, and get more assistance than any $ for $ than any other immigrant. This doesn't even include what illegal alien status immigrants get. That's a whole other story. I agree there needs to be more balance, but to say the "rich" aren't paying, I think that's a stretch guys..https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/fact-check-richest-1-dont-pay-40-of-the-taxes.html
As Ghandi once did not say, "Be the change you want to see in the world. ". (this quote often misattributed to Ghandi is actually by Arleen Lorrance). Instead of waiting for a topic that does interest you, you can start your own discussion. You can even start your own thread in the area where you find the threads on Sugarbabies, or High Honorarium Hotties. Those are all user created.I believe I did.
Dick Morehead
09-17-21, 12:53
Nice try. Plain Lie.
How can people who are so terrific about knowing pussy be so blinded with stupidity on government?You seem to be lacking knowledge in both areas judging by your posts, or in the case of pussy, you lack of posts. 'Pusstcat' Man, you need to shut the 'F' up, every time you post you just show how ignorant you are.
Trailblazer96
09-17-21, 15:17
Nice try. Plain Lie.
How can people who are so terrific about knowing pussy be so blinded with stupidity on government?DNutcase and BenGayBoy had me going for awhile but have came to the conclusion they are here to stir the pot. One of them probably was the TMeiser person who was banging this drum during the election. Most of the stuff they spew they can't even believe since even Stevie Wonder can see they are full of shit and so unbelievable.
Alright I could bring up the one he made about Obama in 2007, but this one sticks out far more. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/05/22/biden-charlamagne-trump-black/ I'm talking about the penalty if you couldn't afford the hiked up health insurance that Obama instituted but trump removed. Either keep the health care system as is, or make it fully universal.Obama got 95% of the Black voters. Biden got 92% (which statistically is the same. I. e. Within the limit of measurement error). Your point?
Drdave.
DNutcase and BenGayBoy had me going for awhile but have came to the conclusion they are here to stir the pot. One of them probably was the TMeiser person who was banging this drum during the election. Most of the stuff they spew they can't even believe since even Stevie Wonder can see they are full of shit and so unbelievable.How completely unoriginal. Just a post with juvenile name calling? That's it? Am I supposed to be offended? This is the equivalent of throwing spaghetti at the wall and see if anything sticks. Just more limp noodles. The turd my dog deposited in the storm drain had more substance. Yes, my dog is trained to poop and pee in the street storm drain. It proves he's smarter than Trailblazer since he knows where to take his shit.
You seem to be lacking knowledge in both areas judging by your posts, or in the case of pussy, you lack of posts. 'Pusstcat' Man, you need to shut the 'F' up, every time you post you just show how ignorant you are.More idiocy from, "More head, less dick".
I only state fact.
What's always funny to me regarding taxes is that the rich have multitudes of ways to lower and lower and lower their AGI.
If you guys think they pay 39% on all the money they earn, you are smoking bad stuff from South America. I'm certainly not rich, but even I have ways of lowering my AGI. A rich guy might have $2. 5 million in income, and end up paying taxes on 300 K.
Poor shmucks can't do that.
And don't even get me started on the simple fact that the 39% is only applied to the highest end of the 300 K not the whole amount.
Guys I am Republican. I used to have country club membership and hang out with the other bankers, lawyers and insurance guys. We used to be the party. Now it's just disgruntled old white guys who hate immigrants and could barely get a GED.
Dick Morehead
09-17-21, 18:14
More idiocy from, "More head, less dick".
I only state fact.Here's a fact. All this 'shit' you post comes straight out of your ass. And then again you don't address the fact that you Very seldom post about pussy, which I suppose if everyone here is an expert on pussy as YOU stated, your not even knowledgeable about that. So I guess the question that begs to be askked is what the 'F' are you even doing on this site? And again you reinforce my point: I use More Head and less dumb 'shit'out of my ass. Ass wipe.
Dick Morehead
09-17-21, 18:36
What's always funny to me regarding taxes is that the rich have multitudes of ways to lower and lower and lower their AGI.
If you guys think they pay 39% on all the money they earn, you are smoking bad stuff from South America. I'm certainly not rich, but even I have ways of lowering my AGI. A rich guy might have $2. 5 million in income, and end up paying taxes on 300 K.
Poor shmucks can't do that.
And don't even get me started on the simple fact that the 39% is only applied to the highest end of the 300 K not the whole amount.
Guys I am Republican. I used to have country club membership and hang out with the other bankers, lawyers and insurance guys. We used to be the party. Now it's just disgruntled old white guys who hate immigrants and could barely get a GED.Don't get you started? Most of us are hoping to get you finished with all your dumb shit cough, cough "facts"!
You are a Republican? What Irish 'Rebublican' Army? They would shove your 'shit' down your throat. They haven't wanted to have the government illegally force them to do shit they totally disagree with either.
I guess we should all be impressed that you used to hang out with bankers, lawyers, and insurance guys. I doubt that, even those fuck head cheats and liars wouldn't hang out with a goof like you. You were the party? I bet that was fun, sorry I missed it. I do however believe that you are a totally disgruntled old white guy (you and your friends), actually I have no doubt about it. FORE.
WanderingAbout
09-17-21, 19:14
https://youtu.be/G69acl9KvrM
https://youtu.be/G69acl9KvrMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT5kafhG3Qw
Vinnie Kramer
09-18-21, 10:34
That's hysterical.
Golf clap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT5kafhG3Qw
What's always funny to me regarding taxes is that the rich have multitudes of ways to lower and lower and lower their AGI.
If you guys think they pay 39% on all the money they earn, you are smoking bad stuff from South America. I'm certainly not rich, but even I have ways of lowering my AGI. A rich guy might have $2. 5 million in income, and end up paying taxes on 300 K.
Poor shmucks can't do that.
And don't even get me started on the simple fact that the 39% is only applied to the highest end of the 300 K not the whole amount.
Guys I am Republican. I used to have country club membership and hang out with the other bankers, lawyers and insurance guys. We used to be the party. Now it's just disgruntled old white guys who hate immigrants and could barely get a GED.Yep. These dipshits don't understand what "marginal" tax rates mean. And here's the really funny thing. These tax haters have been duped into being against a problem that they will never have. How many of these new repubicans do you think even make enough money for it to affect them?
Just a bunch of q'anon, pearl-cluctching, dumb, mother-fucking assholes. I think I spelled Dick-givesMooreHead and that retarded trailblazer idiot correctly.
Dick Morehead
09-18-21, 20:06
Yep. These dipshits don't understand what "marginal" tax rates mean. And here's the really funny thing. These tax haters have been duped into being against a problem that they will never have. How many of these new repubicans do you think even make enough money for it to affect them?
Just a bunch of q'anon, pearl-cluctching, dumb, mother-fucking assholes. I think I spelled Dick-givesMooreHead and that retarded trailblazer idiot correctly.I think TechStickles aka RogerOver and PussyCat Man are Siamese Twins joined at the dick. I think they were overheard saying "you pull mine and I'll pull yours. Can't you dumb fucks think of anything on your own? Just as pointed out a couple of days ago his post should have just said "what he said". BTW dipsticks, that's a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious.
I think TechStickles aka RogerOver and PussyCat Man are Siamese Twins joined at the dick. I think they were overheard saying "you pull mine and I'll pull yours. Can't you dumb fucks think of anything on your own? Just as pointed out a couple of days ago his post should have just said "what he said". BTW dipsticks, that's a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious.Are homophobic rants still a thing? That amount of gay rage usually stems from some degree of self loathing. They covet what they cannot have, so inner desire is masked by outward loathing. It's all very Freudian. .
I think TechStickles aka RogerOver and PussyCat Man are Siamese Twins joined at the dick. I think they were overheard saying "you pull mine and I'll pull yours. Can't you dumb fucks think of anything on your own? Just as pointed out a couple of days ago his post should have just said "what he said". BTW dipsticks, that's a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious.Who changes their name? That says everything you need to know.
Dick Morehead
09-19-21, 11:12
Are homophobic rants still a thing? That amount of gay rage usually stems from some degree of self loathing. They covet what they cannot have, so inner desire is masked by outward loathing. It's all very Freudian. .I really don't care if they are gay or not, that's their business. They can flame on, it doesn't bother me. They just shouldn't make it SO obvious if they don't want people to comment about it. Just curious though, what does Freud have to say about someone who can't figure out their own identity and continually changes their name. Maybe next time it can just be changed to BettyUnder.
Are homophobic rants still a thing? That amount of gay rage usually stems from some degree of self loathing. They covet what they cannot have, so inner desire is masked by outward loathing. It's all very Freudian..How dare HE be so politically incorrect on this board. It's really shocking! I don't necessarily think they are gay, maybe just really close buds.
With all due respect I never did get a response about how racist Joe Biden's comment of "if you don't vote for me, you aint _ was. That shows me pretty much all I needed to know, because there really is no response for it. Or any of these statements. https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks.
With all due respect I never did get a response about how racist Joe Biden's comment of "if you don't vote for me, you aint _ was. That shows me pretty much all I needed to know, because there really is no response for it. Or any of these statements. https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks.My apologies. I didn't even see that. I had to go back and search for it. It got buried under other posts. If I knew it existed and that you were waiting with baited breath for a response and recognition, I would have replied sooner. Most people have other stuff going on that we don't obsess over one ignored or missed post. Again my apologies.
So yes. Joe Biden did say that. It was his, "basket of deplorables" sound bite. Does that make him racist? 90% of black voters didn't think so since they voted for him. I am not black so it's not up to me to decide what is offensive to POC. Some things are established to be racist, such as when a white person uses the and-word against a black person. The "If you don't vote for me. " line was new, and 90% of black voters decided that Joe Biden deserved to be president based on entire history; not just cherry picked moments.
So, did Joe Biden say it? Absolutely. Did the black community think it disqualified him from representing them? 90% said no, it doesn't, and voted for him. 90%. It wasn't even close.
With all due respect I never did get a response about how racist Joe Biden's comment of "if you don't vote for me, you aint _ was. That shows me pretty much all I needed to know, because there really is no response for it. Or any of these statements. https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/bidens-history-getting-away-racist-remarks.My apologies. I didn't even see that. I had to go back and search for it. It got buried under other posts. If I knew it existed and that you were waiting with baited breath for a response and recognition, I would have replied sooner. Most people have other stuff going on that we don't obsess over one ignored or missed post. Again my apologies.
So yes. Joe Biden did say that. It was his, "basket of deplorables" sound bite. Does that make him racist? 90% of black voters didn't think so since they voted for him. I am not black so it's not up to me to decide what is offensive to POC. Some things are established to be racist, such as when a white person uses the and-word against a black person. The "If you don't vote for me. " line was new, and 90% of black voters decided that Joe Biden deserved to be president based on entire history; not just cherry picked moments.
So, did Joe Biden say it? Absolutely. Did the black community think it disqualified him from representing them? 90% said no, it doesn't, and voted for him. 90%. It wasn't even close.
Ironic phrase really. Because whether you're an "orange man bad", or "dementia patient with launch codes" person. Pick your poison.
ANYONE who is still playing the D vs are, Left vs Right game IS "being duped". It's a high stakes game of 3 card monty my brother, and we're the dumbasses who keep playing the game, thinking we will win eventually. Copperfield never saw the day he could deploy the slight of hand skillz that our Fed does. Why'all keep arguing over aisle sides. Yeah, that'll fix it!
Yep. These dipshits don't understand what "marginal" tax rates mean. And here's the really funny thing. These tax haters have been duped into being against a problem that they will never have. How many of these new repubicans do you think even make enough money for it to affect them?
Just a bunch of q'anon, pearl-cluctching, dumb, mother-fucking assholes. I think I spelled Dick-givesMooreHead and that retarded trailblazer idiot correctly.
I guess we should all be impressed that you have a 10-inch cock. I don’t, because I am a small man with an even smaller dick. In high school girls wouldn’t hang out with a goof like me. sorry I missed out on that. I do however believe that I am a totally disgruntled old white guy (me and my friends), actually I have no doubt about it. FORE.Who am I to argue with that?
I really don't care if they are gay or not, that's their business. They can flame on, it doesn't bother me. They just shouldn't make it SO obvious if they don't want people to comment about it. Just curious though, what does Freud have to say about someone who can't figure out their own identity and continually changes their name. Maybe next time it can just be changed to BettyUnder.This is called, "a backpedal with a swish". First the rage. Then when call out on it, a quick, "I don't really care if they're gay", (the backpedal), then followed up with some, ". But <more gay bashing tropes " (the swish). The backpedal with a swish. It's the Bend and Snap of the closeted still trying on shoes.
Freud writes that this subconscious identity is trying to be the conscious one, and this inner struggle to pick either adherence to societal norms or one's true self manifests itself into destructive, violent, or, finger pointing behavior that identifies itself in others.
Who changes their name? That says everything you need to know.You do that when your old account gets banned by the admin.
You do that when your old account gets banned by the admin.Which has nothing to do with me. No idea how these rumors get started.
Hey, BeLOWME, are you shilling for Annie? I never understand why guys pay to fuck old, ugly women.
Dick Morehead
09-20-21, 08:25
This is called, "a backpedal with a swish". First the rage. Then when call out on it, a quick, "I don't really care if they're gay", (the backpedal), then followed up with some, ". But <more gay bashing tropes " (the swish). The backpedal with a swish. It's the Bend and Snap of the closeted still trying on shoes.
Freud writes that this subconscious identity is trying to be the conscious one, and this inner struggle to pick either adherence to societal norms or one's true self manifests itself into destructive, violent, or, finger pointing behavior that identifies itself in others.I think the name 'D'are. Nutcase Freud would be more fitting. I think the terms you use are very professional. Backpedal, troupes, swish, Bend and Snap. As I stated before, if you all are gay that's your business. I don't really care. Swish.
As I stated before, if you all are gay that's your business. I don't really care. Swish.If you pay attention to the structure, this is the classic, "I know you are, but what am I?" line. This falls under child psychology, or perhaps "childish psychology" would be more apropos. Dealing with the inner child is more along the lines of Jungian psychology.
So we have a closetted gay man struggling with their inner child, with rage issues. Somebody wasn't hugged as child.
Which has nothing to do with me. No idea how these rumors get started.
Hey, BeLOWME, are you shilling for Annie? I never understand why guys pay to fuck old, ugly women.No, not shiiling for Annie. I sent her message asking why she was moving already since she just moved to Cincy within the past year. She sent me several messages asking me to come see her, then the "not sure how long ill be providing massages" text, so I think business for her must be rather slow. I saw her once several years ago that was it. I can't understand why people go see Princes Peach either, but they do. To each their own. You don't see anyone at all yet here you are on a hooked board.
If you pay attention to the structure, this is the classic, "I know you are, but what am I?" line. This falls under child psychology, or perhaps "childish psychology" would be more apropos. Dealing with the inner child is more along the lines of Jungian psychology.
So we have a closetted gay man struggling with their inner child, with rage issues. Somebody wasn't hugged as child.Pretty astute judgement based on a post. I would say you are projecting instead of diagnosing.
Pretty astute judgement based on a post. I would say you are projecting instead of diagnosing.Actually it's based on 4 posts; the 2 initial homophobic rage post, 1 reaction post, and the last post with the aforementioned "I know you are, but what am I?" rebuttal. But I did notice that you felt the need to inject yourself into a situation you weren't a party to, and did so with a diagnosis of your own. Based on your lack of knowledge of the previous posts and assumption that there has only been 1 post discussing Freudian and Jungian philosophies, I would say did not do your research. You took a stab at insult without knowing the protagonists in the discussion; a stab in the dark, without an invite, because you have a need to be included.
I surmise you were that kid who was picked last at games, often included in play only at the behest of adults trying to get you out of their way. That would certainly explain your intrusion.
As for projecting, that's Freudian (subconscious trying to be the conscious), and we already left that. Do try to keep up.
WanderingAbout
09-21-21, 01:21
For god sake wear a mask when you're in public. A friend was out and about with his girlfriend when he passed his wife. Luckily he was wearing a mask and she didn't recognize him. Proof that wearing a mask may save your life.
Alot of mongers on here think the more they pay for it the better and cleaner the pussy is and a cuter younger girl. Others complain that the prices are too high and what they use to pay 60 for is now 150 to 200. That is true. Inflation isn't it its pure the need for their habit. Cash and dash Yep they do that too. Streetwalkers posting ads yes they are there's more money in it for them. That's what its all about. As much money as they can get to hit a Lick and next, I hear a lot of mongers say he barebacks so what weather you use a cover or not its his or her choice and yours too. Weather its a 40 dollar girl or a 400 high end girl if that's what you think she is. The main thing is trying to find one or two that pleases you the way you want it to be. Have fun and be safe.
Actually it's based on 4 posts; the 2 initial homophobic rage post, 1 reaction post, and the last post with the aforementioned "I know you are, but what am I?" rebuttal. But I did notice that you felt the need to inject yourself into a situation you weren't a party to, and did so with a diagnosis of your own. Based on your lack of knowledge of the previous posts and assumption that there has only been 1 post discussing Freudian and Jungian philosophies, I would say did not do your research. You took a stab at insult without knowing the protagonists in the discussion; a stab in the dark, without an invite, because you have a need to be included.
I surmise you were that kid who was picked last at games, often included in play only at the behest of adults trying to get you out of their way. That would certainly explain your intrusion.
As for projecting, that's Freudian (subconscious trying to be the conscious), and we already left that. Do try to keep up.No I was merely alluding to the asinine analysis of posts on a discussion board, and drawing complex personality traits from limited information. You might as well be reading tea leaves or tarot cards. As to inserting myself into this discussion. This is a public forum for like minded individuals. You involved everyone in this discussion when you posted here and not in the private messages. It was hardly a stab in the dark attributing characteristics of ourselves onto others behaviors.
Your analysis of me is wrong but cute in its attempt at an insult. I imagine your use of well known names such as Freud and jungian is to hide your insecurities. As is the constant accusations of homosexuality is to cover up your attraction to to boys as a child or an experience willing or forced in your past. I imagine you were average in your childhood group, who idolized the leader of the group. Either at that ages confusing admiration for sexual feelings, or the alpha convinced you into a sexual liaison. Your becoming territorial over your discussion probably lends itself to your insecurities.
See how easy psychoanalysis is. Also, although insightful in some ways I find Freud to be outdated, long winded, and relying on other people's work.
No I was merely alluding to the asinine analysis of posts on a discussion board, and drawing complex personality traits from limited information. You might as well be reading tea leaves or tarot cards. As to inserting myself into this discussion. This is a public forum for like minded individuals. You involved everyone in this discussion when you posted here and not in the private messages. It was hardly a stab in the dark attributing characteristics of ourselves onto others behaviors.
Your analysis of me is wrong but cute in its attempt at an insult. I imagine your use of well known names such as Freud and jungian is to hide your insecurities. As is the constant accusations of homosexuality is to cover up your attraction to to boys as a child or an experience willing or forced in your past. I imagine you were average in your childhood group, who idolized the leader of the group. Either at that ages confusing admiration for sexual feelings, or the alpha convinced you into a sexual liaison. Your becoming territorial over your discussion probably lends itself to your insecurities.
See how easy psychoanalysis is. Also, although insightful in some ways I find Freud to be outdated, long winded, and relying on other people's work.Now, THIS is classic projection. Can I borrow it for a paper? I promise to give you proper credit in the footnotes. I don't want to be accused of plagiarism.
IMA cross dressing TV Ask me anything
09-21-21, 11:34
What's always funny to me regarding taxes is that the rich have multitudes of ways to lower and lower and lower their AGI.
If you guys think they pay 39% on all the money they earn, you are smoking bad stuff from South America. I'm certainly not rich, but even I have ways of lowering my AGI. A rich guy might have $2. 5 million in income, and end up paying taxes on 300 K.
Poor shmucks can't do that.
And don't even get me started on the simple fact that the 39% is only applied to the highest end of the 300 K not the whole amount.
Guys I am Republican. I used to have country club membership and hang out with the other bankers, lawyers and insurance guys. We used to be the party. Now it's just disgruntled old white guys who hate immigrants and could barely get a GED.Late, but this is exactly why the tax code will never change in this country. Every tax change is always to percentages, but never to policy. Its like this for a reason, the reason you just outlined above. The us tax code is the most advantageous to businesses. The ability to carry forward / back losses to offset profits, accelerated deprecation, a multitude of deductions, etc that bring down taxable income. And yet, with that being said. I hate to admit it, but the rich pay way more in taxes than the avg person (as they should tho, because they disproportionately use and benefit from public services as well). If looking at dollar amount of taxes paid per tax bracket, the higher you go, the less people there are and they more they pay in taxes overall. I'm just an avg layman myself, but fortunately with a decent job / career, but I hate hearing peers complain about taxes. Considering corporations are triple taxed (fica, income, capital gains) and if you're a person with a paycheck and any dependents you basically pay nothing in taxes, even less if you have a house. I'm definitely not a republican, FYI.
Late, but this is exactly why the tax code will never change in this country. Every tax change is always to percentages, but never to policy. Its like this for a reason, the reason you just outlined above. The us tax code is the most advantageous to businesses. The ability to carry forward / back losses to offset profits, accelerated deprecation, a multitude of deductions, etc that bring down taxable income. And yet, with that being said. I hate to admit it, but the rich pay way more in taxes than the avg person (as they should tho, because they disproportionately use and benefit from public services as well). If looking at dollar amount of taxes paid per tax bracket, the higher you go, the less people there are and they more they pay in taxes overall. I'm just an avg layman myself, but fortunately with a decent job / career, but I hate hearing peers complain about taxes. Considering corporations are triple taxed (fica, income, capital gains) and if you're a person with a paycheck and any dependents you basically pay nothing in taxes, even less if you have a house. I'm definitely not a republican, FYI.I am going to stay out of the corporate / rich / poor tax deductions and address tax free organizations. The idea of entities, religious or otherwise, is so that in theory, they would have more funds by which to provide for the beneficiaries of their mission. This is all well and good, until the said organizations starts using their savings to build up a war chest with no indication that the tax free savings afforded them will be used. Even for profit businesses like hospitals, when owned by "tax free" groups like churches, don't pay taxes because their income is Channeled through the tax free parent group.
So, here's a proposal. Tax free entities are only allowed to bank a specific number of year's worth of operating expenses. It could be 2, 3, 5 years, just so if there's a downturn in the economy, they have the means to ride out lower contributions. But there needs to be cap. Once that level is reached, then that is no longer "tax free", but taxed at a significant rate. As for employees of non-profits, I propose they adopt the Ben&Jerry model. The top earning employee cannot make more than 7 x more than the lowest paid employee. (that was the case until Ben&Jerry was bought by Unilever, then after that no policy). Tax free status is a gift from the taxpayers for the benefit of those who need help; not the enrich management.
I am going to stay out of the corporate / rich / poor tax deductions and address tax free organizations. The idea of entities, religious or otherwise, is so that in theory, they would have more funds by which to provide for the beneficiaries of their mission. This is all well and good, until the said organizations starts using their savings to build up a war chest with no indication that the tax free savings afforded them will be used. Even for profit businesses like hospitals, when owned by "tax free" groups like churches, don't pay taxes because their income is Channeled through the tax free parent group.
So, here's a proposal. Tax free entities are only allowed to bank a specific number of year's worth of operating expenses. It could be 2, 3, 5 years, just so if there's a downturn in the economy, they have the means to ride out lower contributions. But there needs to be cap. Once that level is reached, then that is no longer "tax free", but taxed at a significant rate. As for employees of non-profits, I propose they adopt the Ben&Jerry model. The top earning employee cannot make more than 7 x more than the lowest paid employee. (that was the case until Ben&Jerry was bought by Unilever, then after that no policy). Tax free status is a gift from the taxpayers for the benefit of those who need help; not the enrich management.I've been trying to stay out of this ongoing argument, but "I'm mad as hell and I can't take it anymore". (Remember that? All this bullshit about taxes is just that--bullshit. Some of you guys complain that the wealthy don't actually pay the 39% rate because of deductions they're entitled to. Well, duh! A simple question: when you do your taxes, do you look for ways to INCREASE them or do you look for way to DECREASE them? Whether you coniser it "fair" or not, they're simply taking advantage of what's available to them--same as everybody else.
And then there's the comments that the "average" or "lower" wage-earners don't have those deductions available to them. Again, duh! I believe the latest statistics show that less than 50% (or somewhere around that level) of the working population actually pay ANY taxes. So, of course they don't have adjustments available to them--a huger percentage of them aren't paying anything to begin with. And those that do have to pay are most likely paying a lesser percentage than the wealthy. Naturally, there are exceptions but, generally speaking, that's is the way it is.
Now here's a novel idea regarding corporate taxes: get rid of them! The ONLY people who pay ANY taxes are consumers. Raise the corporate tax rate and up goes the cost of goods. Let's face it, every time McDonald's has to pay higher taxes (state, federal, whatever), the price of their hamburgers goes up. Ditto for Procter & Gamble, GM, Apple and every other business. Obviously, it would never happen because the general public is too stupid to understand this simple concept--they'd rather "punish" big, bad corporate America.
Now, THIS is classic projection. Can I borrow it for a paper? I promise to give you proper credit in the footnotes. I don't want to be accused of plagiarism.I love how you use words like classic as to add validation to your statement. The same with dropping the Freud and jungian references. Then to top it off with a reference to academic study. Very insecure.
I love how you use words like classic as to add validation to your statement. The same with dropping the Freud and jungian references. Then to top it off with a reference to academic study. Very insecure.Are you still here trying to make yourself relevant? I shouldn't be surprised. Your need to be included has already been established. This is just a continuation of that behavior.
IMA cross dressing TV Ask me anything
09-22-21, 17:29
I am going to stay out of the corporate / rich / poor tax deductions and address tax free organizations. The idea of entities, religious or otherwise, is so that in theory, they would have more funds by which to provide for the beneficiaries of their mission. This is all well and good, until the said organizations starts using their savings to build up a war chest with no indication that the tax free savings afforded them will be used. Even for profit businesses like hospitals, when owned by "tax free" groups like churches, don't pay taxes because their income is Channeled through the tax free parent group.
So, here's a proposal. Tax free entities are only allowed to bank a specific number of year's worth of operating expenses. It could be 2, 3, 5 years, just so if there's a downturn in the economy, they have the means to ride out lower contributions. But there needs to be cap. Once that level is reached, then that is no longer "tax free", but taxed at a significant rate. As for employees of non-profits, I propose they adopt the Ben&Jerry model. The top earning employee cannot make more than 7 x more than the lowest paid employee. (that was the case until Ben&Jerry was bought by Unilever, then after that no policy). Tax free status is a gift from the taxpayers for the benefit of those who need help; not the enrich management.I like this. I also like hte idea of making them become similar to non-profit /501 c3 orgs in that they have to keep detailed books and records, and their goal as an organization isn't to drive profits. So in any years / periods they have any profit they either have to reinvest those funds in the organization, send out bonuses to some / all employees, donate the money, etc. Then, preachers could still skim from the tithes but at a higher, legal level. For example, they could account for all income, all operating expenses and any other cash outflows, and anything left over hte preacher could just give as a bonus to himself and the deacons if he wanted to be nice. The only "downfall" would be the necessity to have more detailed accounting records from your local church in the hood. However, the increased compliance / necessity could create a need for more jobs in that area of tax / audit / accounting / compliance both in government and in the private sector. Imagine crossroads having a team of accountants and auditors on the payroll.
Poor BeLowME, Just can't seem to get that trump reinstatement thing going.
GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win | TheHill
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/573768-gop-backed-arizona-election-review-confirms-biden-2020-win
Poor BeLowME, Just can't seem to get that trump reinstatement thing going.
GOP-backed Arizona election review confirms Biden 2020 win | TheHill
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/573768-gop-backed-arizona-election-review-confirms-biden-2020-winCyber Ninjas got paid close to $6,000,000 to find nothing significant. It actually DECREASED Trump's vote count by over 200, and increased Biden's tally by 99, for NET GAIN for Joe Biden of close to 300.
The GOP should just spin this for what it was, a grift to earn money for Cyber Ninjas and the GOP fundraisers.
BlindSquirrel
09-26-21, 18:48
Cyber Ninjas got paid close to $6,000,000 to find nothing significant. It actually DECREASED Trump's vote count by over 200, and increased Biden's tally by 99, for NET GAIN for Joe Biden of close to 300.
The GOP should just spin this for what it was, a grift to earn money for Cyber Ninjas and the GOP fundraisers.It's a total scam to steal gullible peoples' money. It's a shame that people are falling for this crap, but it's a bigger shame that it's deteriorating faith in American Democracy.
It's a total scam to steal gullible peoples' money. It's a shame that people are falling for this crap, but it's a bigger shame that it's deteriorating faith in American Democracy.It's only deteriorating faith in democracy with the kooks and crazies in my party. We used to be the intelligent party. Looks like the only intelligent one left is for godsakes Liz Cheney!
It's only deteriorating faith in democracy with the kooks and crazies in my party. We used to be the intelligent party. Looks like the only intelligent one left is for godsakes Liz Cheney!Don't forget Adam Kinzinger. Guy has the best IDGAF attitude towards the crazies in his party.
It's a total scam to steal gullible peoples' money. It's a shame that people are falling for this crap, but it's a bigger shame that it's deteriorating faith in American Democracy.Putin is thinking that buying Trump the Presidency using social engineering was the best investment he's ever made. The ROI on paying some trolls in the basement of the Kremlin doing disinformation campaigning has paid off well for him. It's still paying off in Americans', as BlindSquirrel put it, "deteriorating faith in American Democracy" due to Trump's efforts.
It's only deteriorating faith in democracy with the kooks and crazies in my party. We used to be the intelligent party. Looks like the only intelligent one left is for godsakes Liz Cheney!Texas will now to audit their election at the prompting of Trump. Texas. A state he won. By double digits. Is there any further proof needed that the only thing they really expect to find is more money?
Putin is thinking that buying Trump the Presidency using social engineering was the best investment he's ever made. The ROI on paying some trolls in the basement of the Kremlin doing disinformation campaigning has paid off well for him. It's still paying off in Americans', as BlindSquirrel put it, "deteriorating faith in American Democracy" due to Trump's efforts.
Texas will now to audit their election at the prompting of Trump. Texas. A state he won. By double digits. Is there any further proof needed that the only thing they really expect to find is more money?LOL this forum still talking about Biden and Trump. Just because Trump was the second worst president in American history doesn't take away from the fact that Biden is the worst. At least with trump we had $1.19 gas and we were in a pandemic. Now we have $2.95 gas and double the food prices in a pandemic.
LOL this forum still talking about Biden and Trump. Just because Trump was the second worst president in American history doesn't take away from the fact that Biden is the worst. At least with trump we had $1.19 gas and we were in a pandemic. Now we have $2.95 gas and double the food prices in a pandemic.Read what you just said again, "At least with trump we had $1. 19 gas and we were in a pandemic. ". Are you actually saying that being in a pandemic is good? Also, do you know why gas was so low then? Because no one was going anywhere because there was no place to go and the SUPPLY far outpaced DEMAND. Now gas is at close to $3 and businesses are open again; with COVID precautions, but they are open thanks (a lot) to the now over 50% vaccination rate. $3/ gallon is good because that means people have places to be, money is moving, businesses are open.
But, in 2021, despite being mentioned over and over and over and over again everywhere, the fact that you seem to still don't know that gas prices are set by supply and demand, an not by any policy the current President sets, (notwithstanding the just as idiotic "but the President can open the national emergency reserves" comments) just shows are truly ignorant you are. If you did know it, you must think of yourself as some "stable genius" with "the biggest brain" because "no one was talking about", that no one else knew. News flash: Everyone knows.
Let's take a look at how the economy is doing over the past year, and over the past 5 years. OH Look! Record highs. Imagine that.
Read what you just said again, "At least with trump we had $1. 19 gas and we were in a pandemic. ". Are you actually saying that being in a pandemic is good? Also, do you know why gas was so low then? Because no one was going anywhere because there was no place to go and the SUPPLY far outpaced DEMAND. Now gas is at close to $3 and businesses are open again; with COVID precautions, but they are open thanks (a lot) to the now over 50% vaccination rate. $3/ gallon is good because that means people have places to be, money is moving, businesses are open.
But, in 2021, despite being mentioned over and over and over and over again everywhere, the fact that you seem to still don't know that gas prices are set by supply and demand, an not by any policy the current President sets, (notwithstanding the just as idiotic "but the President can open the national emergency reserves" comments) just shows are truly ignorant you are. If you did know it, you must think of yourself as some "stable genius" with "the biggest brain" because "no one was talking about", that no one else knew. News flash: Everyone knows.
Let's take a look at how the economy is doing over the past year, and over the past 5 years. OH Look! Record highs. Imagine that.1. I really like your participation in other sections of the forum but, honestly, I don't know how ANYONE can stick up for Biden with his track record--regardless how muchTrump is despised.
2. You referred to 2 stock market graphs and then say, "Oh, look--record highs". Correct! And 4 of the 5 years you referred to were Trump's years.
3. Whenever anyone referred to stock market gains during Trump's administration, Pelosi, Chuck Shumer, et al said it was all bullshit because the "stock market is for rich people". Now that Biden's in office we bow down before the stock market. What hypocrites.
4. You say businesses are open again thanks to the vacination rate. Well, what about the guy who got the vaccine created? C'Mon., Man (as Biden would say) --love him or hate him, Trump did some good things. How come you guys can't admit that?
Don't forget Adam Kinzinger. Guy has the best IDGAF attitude towards the crazies in his party.Forgot about him. Standup guy. So few left anymore. Most are spineless cowards like Josh Hawley.
1. I really like your participation in other sections of the forum but, honestly, I don't know how ANYONE can stick up for Biden with his track record--regardless how muchTrump is despised.
How come you guys can't admit that?Trump destroyed democracy, norms, societal progress, foreign relations, the state department, the intelligence community, the rule of law. Just off the top of my head.
That's a lot of destruction. 4 years worth of destruction!
And you honestly use "Biden with his track record".
He's been in office 8 months. Good god man.
Read what you just said again, "At least with trump we had $1. 19 gas and we were in a pandemic. ". Are you actually saying that being in a pandemic is good? Also, do you know why gas was so low then? Because no one was going anywhere because there was no place to go and the SUPPLY far outpaced DEMAND. Now gas is at close to $3 and businesses are open again; with COVID precautions, but they are open thanks (a lot) to the now over 50% vaccination rate. $3/ gallon is good because that means people have places to be, money is moving, businesses are open.
But, in 2021, despite being mentioned over and over and over and over again everywhere, the fact that you seem to still don't know that gas prices are set by supply and demand, an not by any policy the current President sets, (notwithstanding the just as idiotic "but the President can open the national emergency reserves" comments) just shows are truly ignorant you are. If you did know it, you must think of yourself as some "stable genius" with "the biggest brain" because "no one was talking about", that no one else knew. News flash: Everyone knows.
Let's take a look at how the economy is doing over the past year, and over the past 5 years. OH Look! Record highs. Imagine that.The only reason were doing this well in 2021 is because Trump brought jobs back and Bidens policies haven't had the chance to do their damage. In 2024 it will take a bachelors degree to make $8 an hour because Biden has shipped all of the jobs away and allowed illegals to take over our country and get free health care while we have to pay for it, meanwhile were wasting the rest of our tax dollars on prosecuting the average mailman for buying a BJ or pussy from a woman. Biden is performing so poorly I would not be all suprised if Trump wins in 2024. Which again, is holding this country back, because we still have politicians born in the 1940's in office. All you have to do is go back to the Obama days. There were stacks of applications on peoples desks to make minimum wage and nobody could get a good job because his policies cost Americans jobs. I personally went from making 25-30 k during the Obama days to 60 K today thanks to Trump. I'm a dem, but the modern democratic party is not the way to go. Not saying the republican party is any better, but the modern democratic party is ruining this country. This is all inconsequential to me as I live in a house worth less then a car, and I can and have lived off of 20000 a year. I feel for the people living on the edge that Biden is taking money from to give to illegal criminals.
i also may add Dnut that youre a great contributor and no disrespect meant, this is all based on my personal experiences and observation.
The only reason were doing this well in 2021 is because Trump brought jobs back and Bidens policies haven't had the chance to do their damage. In 2024 it will take a bachelors degree to make $8 an hour because Biden has shipped all of the jobs away and allowed illegals to take over our country and get free health care while we have to pay for it, Trump brought jobs back? In 4 years he barely scratches 1% off the unemployment rate before COVID. Compare that to the previous administration that took off over 6%.
The rest of your post is white nationalistic replacement theory bullshit wrapped up in fortune telling nonsense because predicting the future does not require backing it up with facts. It's Tucker Carlson dressed up like Carnak the Magnificent.
Trump destroyed democracy, norms, societal progress, foreign relations, the state department, the intelligence community, the rule of law. Just off the top of my head.
That's a lot of destruction. 4 years worth of destruction!
And you honestly use "Biden with his track record".
He's been in office 8 months. Good god man.Yes, Biden's been in office 9 months and in that short time we have hundreds of thousands of undocumented aliens streaming across the border and being dispersed all over the country, including Cincinnati. So we now have to pay to educate their kids, hire more translators for the classrooms and shower them with all the federal, state and local handouts. What else? Hmmm. Let's see-.
The Taliban is now back in control and we have citizens trapped in that shithole. The Supreme Court tells him the landlord / tennant program is illegal but he PUBLICLY states that he'll keep doing it anyway. Inflation is getting WAY out of control. His VEEP is a useless piece of shit who is TOTALLY clueless and Biden, himself, won't take a question from a reporter unless he (or his "handlers") approve the question first and then coach the fucking idiot on what to say. Good job, Joe.
Yes, Biden's been in office 9 months and in that short time we have hundreds of thousands of undocumented aliens streaming across the border and being dispersed all over the country, including Cincinnati. So we now have to pay to educate their kids, hire more translators for the classrooms and shower them with all the federal, state and local handouts. What else? Hmmm. Let's see-.
The Taliban is now back in control and we have citizens trapped in that shithole. The Supreme Court tells him the landlord / tennant program is illegal but he PUBLICLY states that he'll keep doing it anyway. Inflation is getting WAY out of control. His VEEP is a useless piece of shit who is TOTALLY clueless and Biden, himself, won't take a question from a reporter unless he (or his "handlers") approve the question first and then coach the fucking idiot on what to say. Good job, Joe.You have a lot of hatred in your heart Kenny. Clearly you are a racist. Let's start with that.
The idiocy of undocumenteds being "showered" as you say is a lie that's been spread so many million times, racists like you believe that shit. Even though it is false. Racist against Harris. Probably don't like that she's a female also. Never mind the fact that her IQ is probably higher than most anyone on this board. But she's as you say "clueless ".
The Taliban that Trump negotiated with is now in control, who could have thought THAT?!
In any case, we DO KNOW for an absolute fact that all of the destruction I listed is not happening or going to happen in this administration. Which is much closer to a "real" Republican administration, minus the fetish for starting wars.
The only reason were doing this well in 2021 is because Trump brought jobs back and Bidens policies haven't had the chance to do their damage. In 2024 it will take a bachelors degree to make $8 an hour because Biden has shipped all of the jobs away and allowed illegals to take over our country and get free health care while we have to pay for it, meanwhile were wasting the rest of our tax dollars on prosecuting the average mailman for buying a BJ or pussy from a woman. Biden is performing so poorly I would not be all suprised if Trump wins in 2024. Which again, is holding this country back, because we still have politicians born in the 1940's in office. All you have to do is go back to the Obama days. There were stacks of applications on peoples desks to make minimum wage and nobody could get a good job because his policies cost Americans jobs. I personally went from making 25-30 k during the Obama days to 60 K today thanks to Trump. I'm a dem, but the modern democratic party is not the way to go. Not saying the republican party is any better, but the modern democratic party is ruining this country. This is all inconsequential to me as I live in a house worth less then a car, and I can and have lived off of 20000 a year. I feel for the people living on the edge that Biden is taking money from to give to illegal criminals.
i also may add Dnut that youre a great contributor and no disrespect meant, this is all based on my personal experiences and observation.I seriously didn't know there were so many racists on this board, and so many gullible people that believe that illegals get free stuff from the government. Bizarre.
I seriously didn't know there were so many racists on this board, and so many gullible people that believe that illegals get free stuff from the government. Bizarre.The whole bit about a black woman, or "welfare queen," driving around in a limo to pick up her welfare checks. The entire conservative block seized on that fake tale as THE evidence of a broken system that does nothing but pay people off to do nothing.
I'd invite those same people to take a trip through eastern Kentucky or rural Appalachia in general. Plenty of white trash that votes republican, bashes freeloaders, and are generally racist. Oh yeah, they all collect disability, social security, and FAFSA.
All this is only mildly interesting because we are ass-raped much more by the military-industrial complex than by people gaming the entitlement systems.
I seriously didn't know there were so many racists on this board, and so many gullible people that believe that illegals get free stuff from the government. Bizarre.Racist? Bro I'm a minority. And my ancestors came to the country legally. I said nothing about race, I was talking about legal citizen vs illegal alien. If we have to pay for stuff and legally go through the immigration process so should they. If you want to look at racist how about the policies that Kamala Harris enforced to lock up minorities for weed, and then followed that up and laughed about smoking weed on television. Or Biden for writing the crime bill that targets minorities.
I was talking about legal citizen vs illegal alien. If we have to pay for stuff and legally go through the immigration process so should they..You don't have to pay for ANY of their stuff.
And yeah, right, Kamala is a racist. That's about as stupid as saying trump is a Christian. LOL.
The whole bit about a black woman, or "welfare queen," driving around in a limo to pick up her welfare checks. The entire conservative block seized on that fake tale as THE evidence of a broken system that does nothing but pay people off to do nothing.
All this is only mildly interesting because we are ass-raped much more by the military-industrial complex than by people gaming the entitlement systems.Yes we are. That has been like that ever since Eisenhower warned about it. Multi-Trillions.
Does anyone get replies-pm's from the In search of thread.
Thanks.
You have a lot of hatred in your heart Kenny. Clearly you are a racist. Let's start with that.
The idiocy of undocumenteds being "showered" as you say is a lie that's been spread so many million times, racists like you believe that shit. Even though it is false. Racist against Harris. Probably don't like that she's a female also. Never mind the fact that her IQ is probably higher than most anyone on this board. But she's as you say "clueless ".
The Taliban that Trump negotiated with is now in control, who could have thought THAT?!
In any case, we DO KNOW for an absolute fact that all of the destruction I listed is not happening or going to happen in this administration. Which is much closer to a "real" Republican administration, minus the fetish for starting wars.Wow, Bengalman. You are truly a piece of work. First of all, my original comments, overall, were stated pretty politely and factually. Yeah, I referred to Kamala as a "piece of shit" and Biden as an "idiot", both of which are pretty damn tame compared to the language and name-calling that I've seen you and others use CONSTANTLY on this site. So, zip it, Dude.
Secondly, you must be a fucking wizard or something if you're able to analyze me from a couple of paragraphs that I posted on a sex website. I'm a racist, huh? And you were able to conclude that, I assume, because of the "piece of shit" comment about Harris, right? And I'm also a misogynist because I said she's is "clueless", correct? OK, Wiz, if she ISN'T clueless, then name one thing--anything--that even SMELLS of being successful or constructive that she's done since she's been in office. She sure is handling the Southern border issue well, isn't she? (BTW, are you aware that she recently hired a public relations firm to help her with her "image"? Even SHE knows she's a useless piece of shit. Fucking hilarious!
If anyone has "hatred in his heart" it's you, Bengalman. I see your puke-filled comments on this site all the time and it's rather amazing how quickly you jump into the gutter with all your name-calling and bullshit. I'll wait for you reply which, I'm sure, will be coming rather soon because you, apparently, have nothing better to do with your sad, little life. Oh yeah--you're a "piece of shit" too, just like Harris.
WoodFordR69
09-29-21, 08:07
You don't have to pay for ANY of their stuff.
And yeah, right, Kamala is a racist. That's about as stupid as saying trump is a Christian. LOL.You should stick to fucking ugly ******. We do 100% pay for their stuff. Illegals can still get cared for at hospitals. The hospital doesn't pay for it. Everyone else pays in the form of higher charges for every service the hospital provides. In some states they qualify for free housing. Taxes paid by us pay for that. The small amount of the illegal population that leads a life of crime wastes tax supported resources like police. When they steal, prices go up at every store. We pay more becuase of it. So yeah, we 100% pay fucking more to support illegals in this country.
While I do think most are here to chase a better life, I do believe they need to go through the legal process / path to becoming a citizen if they want to stay.
WhereDreamsGo
09-29-21, 12:42
I admit I don't come around here much anymore, precisely because there's not much new good escort talent, and I've gotten bored with the same old discussions cycling through all the time. And I really don't want to read about politics here.
But I was kind of intrigued by a discussion a while back on where all the talent has gone in a once rich market of Cincinnati. It got me thinking. And here's where I figure it ended up.
1) A lot of them died. I stopped counting, but it was getting close to 30 providers I knew who died, mostly of overdoses, over the years around here. I miss some a lot. So do their families.
2) It was always about the drugs. I know there's this mythos here about the sweet teen thing doing this for a little extra cash to spend at the mall. Honestly, they call these unicorns for a reason. They don't exist and never did. Out of a few hundred I saw over the years, there was maybe one like this -- an 18 year old who needed some cash to fix her car, actually showing me the belt she was having replaced. That was an awesome experience. Sadly, even though she had a good time, she never repeated. Well over 90% of the providers were doing this to support a drug habit, and that may be a conservative estimate.
3) A lot of addicts do eventually recover. A lot who were escorting have, if you follow their Facebook feeds at all. And even though you never should believe anything you read on Facebook, the fact is, some of them do get better. A lot get better several times, but they stay clean longer each time, and eventually it sticks. And this is a whole lot better than item one. I know of one in particular who did particularly well, but more on the way, and I'm sure a lot more I don't know of personally.
4) The pipeline isn't getting filled. Heroin and opiates were the main driver, and I think the crackdown on pills and pill mills did ultimately have an effect on new addicts entering the system. I think more of the younger girls have gotten the message of how badly this can ruin their lives.
5) Recovered and non-recovered alike "retire" into familiar regulars they like. Even if it's not a sugar daddy relationship, they may have one or a handful of guys they're seeing for support. And if they don't have a raging drug habit to support, it's a lot easier. Really, any decent escort can go this route eventually, if they want. The ones you see advertising in heavy rotation for a long time, they're generally not worth a repeat visit. (There are some exceptions here. Katie (BTOTB) and Marley come to mind, IMO.).
6) They got jobs. The job market is tight, in case you haven't noticed. A criminal record on drug charges, petty theft, etc. Will not keep you unemployed. You can get hired if you're breathing and show up to work, in many cases.
7) They got free money. Obviously the pandemic stimulus pumped a lot of money into the system, and the ones who have things together enough to have custody of their kids and file tax returns got plenty, and have it coming monthly through at least the rest of the year too.
8) Sugar daddies. I think those non-addict unicorns may exist. And even the addicts who are younger and better looking are opting for the likes of Seeking Arrangements and Secret Benefits. I shop, but don't buy, because of the time, expense and time it takes to seal a deal, and because I've got enough UTRs left from the glory days to keep me satisfied.
MisforMaster
09-29-21, 18:09
I'm going to preface this with I know that I will never be able to change your views on this. But, the reality is that you're so detached to reality, it's kind of amazing you can even get an erection to fuck, let alone have enough blood left in your brain to type out this word salad that I see here.
Yes, Biden's been in office 9 months and in that short time we have hundreds of thousands of undocumented aliens streaming across the border and being dispersed all over the country, including Cincinnati. We do?
So, Kenny, you seem to know so much about undocumented immigration, can you give me a realistic number of how many undocumented / illegal aliens are coming across the border every day? Is it 10? 1000? 100,000? Let me guess, that number was zero during Trump's tenure in the White House?
The vast majority of undocumented aliens that we have in this country are visa overstays. They came and were admitted legally, but, overstayed their visa. No fucking wall would ever fix that problem.
99.9% of the immigration cases that are in immigration court right now in Ohio are either folks appealing their green card determination, or, being pushed through the removal process because they have committed a crime.
So we now have to pay to educate their kids, hire more translators for the classrooms and shower them with all the federal, state and local handouts. What else? Hmmm. Let's see-.
And your solution is to just let those kids become as ignorant as you are? Everyone deserves an education, even you, you beautiful appalachian ignoramus.
The Taliban is now back in control and we have citizens trapped in that shithole.
Look at this document: https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf -- Last time I checked, it was Trump who was in office when the withdrawal was started. Maybe dates aren't your strongest suit, but, Feb of 2020 was BEFORE Biden took office, and Trump was still in office.
The Supreme Court tells him the landlord / tennant program is illegal but he PUBLICLY states that he'll keep doing it anyway.
Kavanaugh Publicly states that they'll keep doing it so that they can get Congress to give it the authorization, which is what Kavanaugh wrote in his order. Again, education is important. Reading comprehension skills are important. Spelling is important.
Inflation is getting WAY out of control.
I'll give you this point -- inflation is seriously out of control. You can thank the Fed Chairman for this one, not Biden.
His VEEP is a useless piece of shit who is TOTALLY clueless
Again, I'll give you another point. Fucking hate Kamala. She's about as useless as a used cover.
and Biden, himself, won't take a question from a reporter unless he (or his "handlers") approve the question first and then coach the fucking idiot on what to say. Good job, Joe.
Were you that kid in class that was so special that the teacher stopped asking on you to answer questions? Because, well, that's kinda what's going on there. Ask stupid questions, or questions that have no basis in reality, and yes, POTUS is going to fucking ignore you, WH press pass or not.
I love political discourse -- I worked in DC during the Trump administration and can tell you plenty of stories about the shit that I heard and saw at Joe's Crab after work -- but, I can't stand folks who can't think for themselves.
MisforMaster
09-29-21, 18:13
While I do think most are here to chase a better life, I do believe they need to go through the legal process / path to becoming a citizen if they want to stay.And I completely agree with this -- and from my experience, most are looking for a path to stay. The US just hasn't made any progress in doing so.
Look, I'm a little jaded by this because one of my former sugar babies is an undocumented / illegal. Her parents are undocumented, and she arrived in the US when she was 18 months. She's been in Cincinnati her whole life, and she's in law school now, even though there's a strong chance she won't be able to practice law without becoming a citizen. She pays taxes on the money she makes, she works hard in school, but, she's also understands that she's climbing a mountain, and one wrong move could have her deported to a country where she barely speaks the language and she hasn't seen in 22 years.
Until we step away from identity politics, nothing of value is going to get done in this country.
Ruth Ginsburg was voted onto the Supreme Court by a 97-3 margin. Could you imagine ANYTHING in the senate happening today with that margin? I honestly don't think I'll see it in my lifetime.
I'm going to preface this with I know that I will never be able to change your views on this. But, the reality is that you're so detached to reality, it's kind of amazing you can even get an erection to fuck, let alone have enough blood left in your brain to type out this word salad that I see here.
We do?
So, Kenny, you seem to know so much about undocumented immigration, can you give me a realistic number of how many undocumented / illegal aliens are coming across the border every day? Is it 10? 1000? 100,000? Let me guess, that number was zero during Trump's tenure in the White House?
The vast majority of undocumented aliens that we have in this country are visa overstays. They came and were admitted legally, but, overstayed their visa. No fucking wall would ever fix that problem.
99.9% of the immigration cases that are in immigration court right now in Ohio are either folks appealing their green card determination, or, being pushed through the removal process because they have committed a crime.
And your solution is to just let those kids become as ignorant as you are? Everyone deserves an education, even you, you beautiful appalachian ignoramus.
Look at this document: https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf -- Last time I checked, it was Trump who was in office when the withdrawal was started. Maybe dates aren't your strongest suit, but, Feb of 2020 was BEFORE Biden took office, and Trump was still in office.
Kavanaugh Publicly states that they'll keep doing it so that they can get Congress to give it the authorization, which is what Kavanaugh wrote in his order. Again, education is important. Reading comprehension skills are important. Spelling is important.
I'll give you this point -- inflation is seriously out of control. You can thank the Fed Chairman for this one, not Biden.
Again, I'll give you another point. Fucking hate Kamala. She's about as useless as a used cover.
Were you that kid in class that was so special that the teacher stopped asking on you to answer questions? Because, well, that's kinda what's going on there. Ask stupid questions, or questions that have no basis in reality, and yes, POTUS is going to fucking ignore you, WH press pass or not.
I love political discourse -- I worked in DC during the Trump administration and can tell you plenty of stories about the shit that I heard and saw at Joe's Crab after work -- but, I can't stand folks who can't think for themselves.Wow. You and BengalMan must be good pals or something, because, just like him, you immediately get into all the childish name-calling and put words in my mouth. I'm not going to waste my time responding to all your crazy comments but here are a couple thoughts:
IMMIGRATION: Yes, we DO have a problem and, yes, some of them are being sent to Cincinnati. You infer that I claimed to be an "expert" on the subject and ask if I can give you a "realistic number of how many undocumented / illegal aliens are coming across the border every day". No, I can't. Can you give me one? I doubt it. This has been a problem for years and everybody knows that. But if you think the problem hasn't gotten worse since Biden took over, then you're out of your fucking mind.
EDUCATION: Because I complained about having to support the illegal immigrants, you assume that I'm against giving them an education, and then you call me a "beautiful appalachian ignoramus". (First of all, the word "Appalachian" should be capitalized, you ignoramus! Maybe YOU need some education.) My complaint was the COST of supporting all these people who are here illegally--period. If you think it's OK, good for you, but I don't. I work hard for my money and have done so since my high school years. I'm sick and tired of paying taxes for a bunch of shit that I don't believe in. If we disagree, so be it.
THE TALIBAN: Like Biden, you put all the blame on Trump-I inherited his plan" and all that crap. Biden EXECUTED the plan and he failed miserably. If he didn't like the plan he should have changed it--he certainly didn't hesitate to stop other Trump policies, did he? But, no--he "inherited" this one. He failed big-time and got 13 of our soldiers killed in the process.
Please, MisforMaster, don't respond back to this, OK? Enough is enough already. Go get your dick sucked or something so you can clear all the stupidity out of your head for 30 seconds or so.
Wow. You and BengalMan must be good pals or something, because, just like him, you immediately get into all the childish name-calling and put words in my mouth. I'm not going to waste my time responding to all your crazy comments but here are a couple thoughts:
IMMIGRATION: Yes, we DO have a problem and, yes, some of them are being sent to Cincinnati. You infer that I claimed to be an "expert" on the subject and ask if I can give you a "realistic number of how many undocumented / illegal aliens are coming across the border every day". No, I can't. Can you give me one? I doubt it. This has been a problem for years and everybody knows that. But if you think the problem hasn't gotten worse since Biden took over, then you're out of your fucking mind.
EDUCATION: Because I complained about having to support the illegal immigrants, you assume that I'm against giving them an education, and then you call me a "beautiful appalachian ignoramus". (First of all, the word "Appalachian" should be capitalized, you ignoramus! Maybe YOU need some education.) My complaint was the COST of supporting all these people who are here illegally--period. If you think it's OK, good for you, but I don't. I work hard for my money and have done so since my high school years. I'm sick and tired of paying taxes for a bunch of shit that I don't believe in. If we disagree, so be it.
THE TALIBAN: Like Biden, you put all the blame on Trump-I inherited his plan" and all that crap. Biden EXECUTED the plan and he failed miserably. If he didn't like the plan he should have changed it--he certainly didn't hesitate to stop other Trump policies, did he? But, no--he "inherited" this one. He failed big-time and got 13 of our soldiers killed in the process.
Please, MisforMaster, don't respond back to this, OK? Enough is enough already. Go get your dick sucked or something so you can clear all the stupidity out of your head for 30 seconds or so.The immigrants currently at the border are NOT being allowed to enter to apply for asylum (as the are legally entitled to do) under a Trump administration ruling requiring them to stay on the Mexican side (where there are essentially zero resources for them to apply!) The Biden administration was continuing to enforce this order, but it was overturned by a Federal judge. Now the Biden administration is appealing it- they are trying to CONTINUE Trump's policy. I really wish you folks would actually read. Or better yet, STFU and talk about pussy and its discontents.
Hillbilly Bob
10-04-21, 21:55
The immigrants currently at the border are NOT being allowed to enter to apply for asylum (as the are legally entitled to do) under a Trump administration ruling requiring them to stay on the Mexican side (where there are essentially zero resources for them to apply!) The Biden administration was continuing to enforce this order, but it was overturned by a Federal judge. Now the Biden administration is appealing it- they are trying to CONTINUE Trump's policy. I really wish you folks would actually read. Or better yet, STFU and talk about pussy and its discontents.Some White House officials reportedly viewed the Supreme Court ruling last week upholding the Trump-era Remain in Mexico policy as a chance to slow the pace of President Biden's immigration changes that they feared were sparking the crisis at the border.
Many of them, according to the New York Times, had already been thinking about rebooting former President Donald Trump's policy in a narrow way to stem the tide of migrants.
The officials saw the justices' decision as a way to give Biden political cover to alter his predecessor's immigration policy without angering Democrats who railed against those programs during the past four years.
Ditching the Remain in Mexico program was one of several Trump's immigration programs that Biden REVERESED or rolled back in the early days of his administration — and that critics contend acted as a welcome invitation to migrants from Mexico and Central American countries.
There have been more than 1 million illegal border crossings this year, breaking records month over month.
Fucking unconscious providers under the influence of drugs / alcohol is rape, IMO. They can't consent; I don't care what they said before they passed out. This activity is an excellent way to wind up in jail deservedly.
One may feel safe because hookers generally feel they can't go to the police, but you're vulnerable to the same shit that would happen if you fucked a civvie woman under those circumstances.
Oh yeah: It also makes you a fucking piece of shit. I'd laugh my ass off if I saw you pop up on mugshots one day for this type of fuckery.
ILikeWatch
10-05-21, 19:16
https://apple.news/Azu1sLsPaQHSj7PTGZjTw1Q
FirmBolevar
10-05-21, 20:25
Fucking unconscious providers under the influence of drugs / alcohol is rape, IMO. They can't consent; I don't care what they said before they passed out. This activity is an excellent way to wind up in jail deservedly.
One may feel safe because hookers generally feel they can't go to the police, but you're vulnerable to the same shit that would happen if you fucked a civvie woman under those circumstances.
Oh yeah: It also makes you a fucking piece of shit. I'd laugh my ass off if I saw you pop up on mugshots one day for this type of fuckery.Agreed, how can anyone possibly get aroused and fuck someone who is out cold. I showed up to an appointment with a gal I had had a couple of fantastic sessions with. On this occasion she was totally under the influence of something, slurring and mumbling eyes looked sunkin and dead. Told her sorry can't do this and split. This girl was really cute, had already shown me a couple fantastic dates, but no way could I get erection under those circumstances, much less finish.
GreenFields
10-05-21, 20:46
https://apple.news/Azu1sLsPaQHSj7PTGZjTw1QI couldn't tell from the article, were these mostly massage parlors? Or were they escorts? Streetwalkers?
Pretty chilling to read this.
SalGoodWood
10-06-21, 00:06
https://apple.news/Azu1sLsPaQHSj7PTGZjTw1QInteresting how they describe the women selling sex as "would-be victims. " If I'm willingly selling my time to my employer am I too a victim? I mean what if someone works a taxing job and it cripples them over time? Could they be described as victims of that employer. I mean after all they're doing it because they need money too, right?
I couldn't tell from the article, were these mostly massage parlors? Or were they escorts? Streetwalkers?
Pretty chilling to read this.But those numbers make me think parlors, mostly. I feel like that's the most bang for the buck with a sting and would also explain the sizeable number of contacts made without arrest.
I couldn't tell from the article, were these mostly massage parlors? Or were they escorts? Streetwalkers?
Pretty chilling to read this.I think they were a mixture of everything by the sounds of it. I think there were quite a few that were set up through ads, lured to hotel rooms and busted there. Probably some AMPs as well. That's why I think it's important to stick with the providers that are reviewed here numerous times. I'm sure any one if them could flip on you and work for LEO but I think you would know about that based on reviews of a recent bust or incarceration. That's why I'm leery of anyone who just got back from a months long visit at the Graybar Hotel. Stay diligent out there.
GreenFields
10-06-21, 18:21
I think they were a mixture of everything by the sounds of it. I think there were quite a few that were set up through ads, lured to hotel rooms and busted there. Probably some AMPs as well. That's why I think it's important to stick with the providers that are reviewed here numerous times. I'm sure any one if them could flip on you and work for LEO but I think you would know about that based on reviews of a recent bust or incarceration. That's why I'm leery of anyone who just got back from a months long visit at the Graybar Hotel. Stay diligent out there.Totally agree regarding sticking with providers with multiple solid reviews. It may slow your roll a bit, but personally, I'm working my way toward finding a handful of trusted providers who I can get to know well, enjoy them as providers and as people, and ultimately feel like I can trust them.
But those numbers make me think parlors, mostly. I feel like that's the most bang for the buck with a sting and would also explain the sizeable number of contacts made without arrest.That, plus probably johns who bailed after making contact with the ad. In previous news reports they consider everyone who responds to an ad as a "potential offender. " one news report even counted the number of views the ad got on the website which was in the thousands. It was something like 19 arrests, 212 responses, and 4400 views. If I can dig the article up ill post it. They have crossed the line way too far to be counting those.
Didn't know where to post this as I can't call it a rip off, but it certainly felt like a set up. Contacted this girl, she sent a verification pic, we set up a date. En route she started saying things that gave me a weird vibe. Mentioned several times that she lives alone, how she didn't have any friends or family around, all of this was unsolicited info and seemed to be intentionally trying to put me at ease.
Arrived to a not so nice apartment complex with exterior exits. My spidey senses were pinging, then she told me to go to the 5th floor and let her know when I was getting off the elevator and she'd give me the apartment number. At this point everything in my body was screaming to get out of there. I have been robbed before and this felt in the same vein.
I listened to my gut, told her that this felt similar to the time I was robbed, and she cut off communication. Don't know if I am way off base or if anyone has had any interactions with this girl, but just be careful.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/68127508
Didn't know where to post this as I can't call it a rip off, but it certainly felt like a set up. Contacted this girl, she sent a verification pic, we set up a date. En route she started saying things that gave me a weird vibe. Mentioned several times that she lives alone, how she didn't have any friends or family around, all of this was unsolicited info and seemed to be intentionally trying to put me at ease.
Arrived to a not so nice apartment complex with exterior exits. My spidey senses were pinging, then she told me to go to the 5th floor and let her know when I was getting off the elevator and she'd give me the apartment number. At this point everything in my body was screaming to get out of there. I have been robbed before and this felt in the same vein.
I listened to my gut, told her that this felt similar to the time I was robbed, and she cut off communication. Don't know if I am way off base or if anyone has had any interactions with this girl, but just be careful.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/68127508I don't do scavenger hunts. I get the whole address before I leave the house. If at a hotel, I may get the room number once I am in the parking lot. But getting the number when you off the elevator is nonsense.
Some of you guys play these, "go to the gas station, and wait for further instructions" games. You are not James Bond on a mission.
You have the cash she wants, which means you are in control. If she insists, tell her you are contacting someone else. Don't cheapen your manhood just to get it sucked.
SexTalkFor1000
10-10-21, 01:19
Didn't know where to post this as I can't call it a rip off, but it certainly felt like a set up. Contacted this girl, she sent a verification pic, we set up a date. En route she started saying things that gave me a weird vibe. Mentioned several times that she lives alone, how she didn't have any friends or family around, all of this was unsolicited info and seemed to be intentionally trying to put me at ease.
Arrived to a not so nice apartment complex with exterior exits. My spidey senses were pinging, then she told me to go to the 5th floor and let her know when I was getting off the elevator and she'd give me the apartment number. At this point everything in my body was screaming to get out of there. I have been robbed before and this felt in the same vein.
I listened to my gut, told her that this felt similar to the time I was robbed, and she cut off communication. Don't know if I am way off base or if anyone has had any interactions with this girl, but just be careful.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/68127508The name sounds familiar, but could just be a different name they or she decided to use. I'll share a story about an escort in Covington off of pike st, a few years back that went by the same name, she requested I leave the money in the mailbox to prove I was legit. I said duh ok, I told her the money was there, I circled the block when I came back her is this fat ass man running to the mail box. Pretty fucking funny I didn't leave any money, but I honked my horn to let him know I was on to his scam lmfao.
Hey all you Socialist Democrats and Rhino's how are you liking Senile Joe & the HO now. Everything he touches turns to shit. That's what happens when you let kids run the country. The best part is that is going to get a lot worse. All I can say is to stay low and lock-and-load. Please don't look stupid and blame Trump for all his fuck-ups.
What's the best experience you've ever had with a provider? Mine may have been cookie Claire. She hadn't gotten any in a couple weeks so she was ready to go. We started off covered. She started getting into it and took off the cover without asking. LOL. Then she told me no CIP. By the time I was ready to pop she was so hot and bothered she had her legs wrapped around me and wouldn't let me loose until I finished inside of her. LOL.
What's the best experience you've ever had with a provider? Mine may have been cookie Claire. She hadn't gotten any in a couple weeks so she was ready to go. We started off covered. She started getting into it and took off the cover without asking. LOL. Then she told me no CIP. By the time I was ready to pop she was so hot and bothered she had her legs wrapped around me and wouldn't let me loose until I finished inside of her. LOL.Two of my best experiences were with Taylor Fox, and Candy Kemp. Both absolutely beautiful women, both with attitudes that was very customer centered, both skilled in the art of the pleasure, and both very intelligent so the conversation between pops were always interesting and stimulating. They were courtesans in every sense of the word.
Hey all you Socialist Democrats and Rhino's how are you liking Senile Joe & the HO now. Everything he touches turns to shit. That's what happens when you let kids run the country. The best part is that is going to get a lot worse. All I can say is to stay low and lock-and-load. Please don't look stupid and blame Trump for all his fuck-ups.I love being called a Socialist, because I know whoever called me that is an idiot who doesn't know what a socialist is. It's like a tell in poker. These assfuckers signal their stupidity by wearing MAGA hats, fly Trump flags, post "the election was stolen" QAnon articles, complain about the southern border because Mexicans will take away their jobs, and high gas prices are Joe Biden's fault. LOL While they mentioned "record stock prices under Trump and record low unemployment" at the beginning of Joe Biden's administration, they won't mention them now because stock prices are in record highs and unemployment is significantly down since Joe Biden took office.
Notice how ToTooBig's post was all very general? Just name calling. He doesn't get specific about what's wrong. He's basically a toddler throwing a tantrum for attention.
What's the best experience you've ever had with a provider? Mine may have been cookie Claire. She hadn't gotten any in a couple weeks so she was ready to go. We started off covered. She started getting into it and took off the cover without asking. LOL. Then she told me no CIP. By the time I was ready to pop she was so hot and bothered she had her legs wrapped around me and wouldn't let me loose until I finished inside of her. LOL.There's a name I haven't seen in forever. Can still remember seeing her all the time when she was new to things before the hard candy got ahold of her. Had alot of late hour visits she upgraded into overnights where we were at it like a couple kids one minute, then randomly trading utoob vids the next. Was the true standard of a GFE to me. Still miss that girl.
SaltPacket
10-16-21, 22:15
Didn't know where to post this as I can't call it a rip off, but it certainly felt like a set up. Contacted this girl, she sent a verification pic, we set up a date. En route she started saying things that gave me a weird vibe. Mentioned several times that she lives alone, how she didn't have any friends or family around, all of this was unsolicited info and seemed to be intentionally trying to put me at ease.
Arrived to a not so nice apartment complex with exterior exits. My spidey senses were pinging, then she told me to go to the 5th floor and let her know when I was getting off the elevator and she'd give me the apartment number. At this point everything in my body was screaming to get out of there. I have been robbed before and this felt in the same vein.
I listened to my gut, told her that this felt similar to the time I was robbed, and she cut off communication. Don't know if I am way off base or if anyone has had any interactions with this girl, but just be careful.
https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/68127508I used to see her back in 2019. And I've been seeing her recently just left her place. She's always seemed like she might have some psychosis or something but she's a nice girl. Although she had a guy watching her dog outside. Said she was her friends bf. Then I seen a guy driving her car into the apartment complex when as I was leaving. She said he was her mechanic returning her car from putting new tires on, this was at 8:30 pm. Probably her BF most likely.
I love being called a Socialist, because I know whoever called me that is an idiot who doesn't know what a socialist is. It's like a tell in poker. These assfuckers signal their stupidity by wearing MAGA hats, fly Trump flags, post "the election was stolen" QAnon articles, complain about the southern border because Mexicans will take away their jobs, and high gas prices are Joe Biden's fault. LOL While they mentioned "record stock prices under Trump and record low unemployment" at the beginning of Joe Biden's administration, they won't mention them now because stock prices are in record highs and unemployment is significantly down since Joe Biden took office.
Notice how ToTooBig's post was all very general? Just name calling. He doesn't get specific about what's wrong. He's basically a toddler throwing a tantrum for attention.Both Trump and Biden support arresting men for meeting women. Trump passed the bill, Biden hasnt reversed it. Both have probably used escort services in their lives. I really don't know why anyone on this board would defend either.
There's a name I haven't seen in forever. Can still remember seeing her all the time when she was new to things before the hard candy got ahold of her. Had alot of late hour visits she upgraded into overnights where we were at it like a couple kids one minute, then randomly trading utoob vids the next. Was the true standard of a GFE to me. Still miss that girl.She was great. I always enjoy it when a provider is a bit selfish and wants to get off, too. The way she'd squeeze when she'd ride.
Looking for some tips here.
I have recently met this lady at work who is very nice and jovial. We have some common interests out of work (gaming, movies etc.). We have met outside work but only within a group.
How do I know if she wants to be more than just what we have today? She keeps throwing some hints but I want to make sure its my brain doing the thinking and not my dick.
We are both in our 40's. How do I take it forward.
Looking for some tips here.
I have recently met this lady at work who is very nice and jovial. We have some common interests out of work (gaming, movies etc.). We have met outside work but only within a group.
How do I know if she wants to be more than just what we have today? She keeps throwing some hints but I want to make sure its my brain doing the thinking and not my dick.
We are both in our 40's. How do I take it forward.Despite all the posts that will be recommending you don't pursue this, I think your next move would be to see if she wants to go grab a drink or dinner with you alone. From there to fucking is a pretty short line if she's really interested in you. I say go for it. I've only regretted the girls I had a chance to fuck and didn't.
Looking for some tips here.
I have recently met this lady at work who is very nice and jovial. We have some common interests out of work (gaming, movies etc.). We have met outside work but only within a group.
How do I know if she wants to be more than just what we have today? She keeps throwing some hints but I want to make sure its my brain doing the thinking and not my dick.
We are both in our 40's. How do I take it forward.It's very tough to ignore something like that, but my opinion is to walk away from it. Many years ago I had a relationship with a girl who worked FOR me, not WITH me, and it turned into a disaster. I didn't lose my job, but I came damn close. Keep in mind that women (in my humble opinion) are more likely to "fall in love" or some crazy shit like that and get much more emotionally tied to the relationship, which can only lead to problems. Unless you're 100% sure that she truly wants ONLY a platonic relationship (and how the hell do you know that? Don't do it. My 2 cents worth.
Sir LanceLicksalot
10-18-21, 14:54
Despite all the posts that will be recommending you don't pursue this, I think your next move would be to see if she wants to go grab a drink or dinner with you alone. From there to fucking is a pretty short line if she's really interested in you. I say go for it. I've only regretted the girls I had a chance to fuck and didn't.You have NO Supervisory responsibilities that would affect her job.
By inviting her out to dinner or a drink after work to discuss it. Never hurts to ask especially if she's just a coworker and not a subordinate. I think if she jumps at the chance to do something outside of work alone with you it might be worth pursuing, but expectations may need to be discussed before taking it further IMHO.
It's very tough to ignore something like that, but my opinion is to walk away from it. Many years ago I had a relationship with a girl who worked FOR me, not WITH me, and it turned into a disaster. I didn't lose my job, but I came damn close. Keep in mind that women (in my humble opinion) are more likely to "fall in love" or some crazy shit like that and get much more emotionally tied to the relationship, which can only lead to problems. Unless you're 100% sure that she truly wants ONLY a platonic relationship (and how the hell do you know that? Don't do it. My 2 cents worth.
You have NO Supervisory responsibilities that would affect her job.She doesn't report into me or vice-versa. We work for two different areas and but working together for some common tasks.
I am also worried about the "Falling in Love" thing. It has to be platonic.
It's very tough to ignore something like that, but my opinion is to walk away from it. Many years ago I had a relationship with a girl who worked FOR me, not WITH me, and it turned into a disaster. I didn't lose my job, but I came damn close. Keep in mind that women (in my humble opinion) are more likely to "fall in love" or some crazy shit like that and get much more emotionally tied to the relationship, which can only lead to problems. Unless you're 100% sure that she truly wants ONLY a platonic relationship (and how the hell do you know that? Don't do it. My 2 cents worth.In large companies, there are now established HR policies should 2 people working together want to pursue a romantic relationship. It does involve notifying HR, both are advised of protocols, both are advised of what could happen if the relationship turns sour, etc. It's mainly a way of protecting the company from potential lawsuits, but it's also a way of forcing the couple to think about "what if" without the "honeymoon glow of rise colored glasses".
Both Trump and Biden support arresting men for meeting women. Trump passed the bill, Biden hasnt reversed it. Both have probably used escort services in their lives. I really don't know why anyone on this board would defend either.Because there are more than 1 issue I care about. To base one's vote on one issue is to ignore the greater good. It's selfish and myopic.
Vinnie Kramer
10-18-21, 15:32
By definition, platonic means no sex.
She doesn't report into me or vice-versa. We work for two different areas and but working together for some common tasks.
I am also worried about the "Falling in Love" thing. It has to be platonic.
Looking for some tips here.
I have recently met this lady at work who is very nice and jovial. We have some common interests out of work (gaming, movies etc.). We have met outside work but only within a group.
How do I know if she wants to be more than just what we have today? She keeps throwing some hints but I want to make sure its my brain doing the thinking and not my dick.
We are both in our 40's. How do I take it forward.Don't do it. A large number of relationships of all kinds go south and the best thing to do when this happens is to break contact. That is Impossible if you work together.
By definition, platonic means no sex.What's the word for Platonic+Sex? Just curious.
What's the word for Platonic+Sex? Just curious.We call that "fucking".
Ignore all these guys telling you not to do it. While it's a bad idea to fuck someone that works FOR you (especially in the day and age) but sounds like that's not the case here. Get some pussy!
What's the word for Platonic+Sex? Just curious.Fuck buddies. Friends with Benefits. Knocking boots. Benefriends. Masterbuddies.
WoodFordR69
10-18-21, 16:07
Don't do it. A large number of relationships of all kinds go south and the best thing to do when this happens is to break contact. That is Impossible if you work together.My advice is only pursue this if you can leave the job & quickly find another if things go to shit. I worked with someone who did get involved with a lady at work. Neither had any managerial impact on the other & both were of similar ranks within their respective departments. He wanted casual, she fell in love overnight. After thinks couldn't get worked out, she goes running to HR about him 'creating a hostile work environment'. They were going fire him except I had convinced him to save the crazy texts, record conversations, etc. He was able to prove he was not the cause of the problem. 9 times out of 10, the guy is going to be presumed guilty until proven innocent.
We call that "fucking".
Ignore all these guys telling you not to do it. While it's a bad idea to fuck someone that works FOR you (especially in the day and age) but sounds like that's not the case here. Get some pussy!😊 'Fucking' is all I want no other drama.
The chance that we will ever work together is very very rare. For now will just ask out for drinks and see where this heads!!
Because there are more than 1 issue I care about. To base one's vote on one issue is to ignore the greater good. It's selfish and myopic.Single issue voters are the worst thing that ever happened to the population. It's either right to life /2 A, or whatever they've hit on to make them retarded. I've actually had conversations with people that agreed that things are fucked up, but changing would mean voting for someone on the other side. No way they could get themselves to do it.
Must be sad to have your identity wrapped up in a partisan blanket.
😊 'Fucking' is all I want no other drama.
The chance that we will ever work together is very very rare. For now will just ask out for drinks and see where this heads!!Keep us posted. Some of us are rooting for you! LOL.
Katmandu6999
10-18-21, 20:52
We call that "fucking".
Ignore all these guys telling you not to do it. While it's a bad idea to fuck someone that works FOR you (especially in the day and age) but sounds like that's not the case here. Get some pussy!Fuck her, fuck her brains out! You know she'll love it!
Single issue voters are the worst thing that ever happened to the population. It's either right to life /2 A, or whatever they've hit on to make them retarded. I've actually had conversations with people that agreed that things are fucked up, but changing would mean voting for someone on the other side. No way they could get themselves to do it.
Must be sad to have your identity wrapped up in a partisan blanket.Roger nailed it. To a "T".
My advice is only pursue this if you can leave the job & quickly find another if things go to shit. I worked with someone who did get involved with a lady at work. Neither had any managerial impact on the other & both were of similar ranks within their respective departments. He wanted casual, she fell in love overnight. After thinks couldn't get worked out, she goes running to HR about him 'creating a hostile work environment'. They were going fire him except I had convinced him to save the crazy texts, record conversations, etc. He was able to prove he was not the cause of the problem. 9 times out of 10, the guy is going to be presumed guilty until proven innocent.Exactly they all seem normal and cool until you start fucking them. Then the crazy comes out and it's usually the guy who gets in trouble.
Exactly they all seem normal and cool until you start fucking them. Then the crazy comes out and it's usually the guy who gets in trouble.https://youtu.be/pInk1rV2VEg
WoodFordR69
10-19-21, 21:00
https://youtu.be/pInk1rV2VEgThank you for sharing this link. Damn I needed a good laugh like this. Sad part is he is 100% on the money.
Asking "you a cop?" does jack shit. They can lie to you. Asking for a photo of a monger to "prove they aren't a cop" proves jack shit (please never comply with this and let these girls think it is an acceptable practice)
Unless you are a sex or drug trafficker, cops are not setting up elaborate stings to entrap you by messaging your public social media accounts or your burner phone numbers that you can barely hold onto for a week. You are much more likely to be busted for your drugs, pipes and needles than you are for sucking a dick for cash.
A provider wanted me to send a dick pic with two fingers held up next to it.
She said a cop wouldn't do that.
Obviously, a cop would probably LOVE to send a dick pic.
Asking "you a cop?" does jack shit. They can lie to you. Asking for a photo of a monger to "prove they aren't a cop" proves jack shit (please never comply with this and let these girls think it is an acceptable practice)
Unless you are a sex or drug trafficker, cops are not setting up elaborate stings to entrap you by messaging your public social media accounts or your burner phone numbers that you can barely hold onto for a week. You are much more likely to be busted for your drugs, pipes and needles than you are for sucking a dick for cash.
A provider wanted me to send a dick pic with two fingers held up next to it.
She said a cop wouldn't do that.
Obviously, a cop would probably LOVE to send a dick pic.A single soliciting or prostitution charge is so minor that they would never try to set up one person that way. They care way more about the Johns anyway. They want the girl or John come to them in an environment they control and to make multiple arrests. They might raid a hotel where a bunch of girls are staying and using or just acting ignorant asking to get busted.
The thing they would certainly get busted for if a cop was setting them up is talking about money right off the bat and asking for money before service is completed. That is what 99% of them are most interested in talking about in person as soon as you get there. I've started telling girls I haven't met before any mention of money when I arrive before service is rendered after we discuss donations on the phone or through text and I will leave immediately. I don't care how many times you claim you have been ripped off, if you need to pay for the room or if you need your dope now.
Everyone is safer if you go into the encounter with it being consensual meet up and the monger happens to "forget" some cash when they leave but dope fiends care way more about that cash when you show up rather than getting busted.
Asking "you a cop?" does jack shit. They can lie to you. Asking for a photo of a monger to "prove they aren't a cop" proves jack shit (please never comply with this and let these girls think it is an acceptable practice)
Unless you are a sex or drug trafficker, cops are not setting up elaborate stings to entrap you by messaging your public social media accounts or your burner phone numbers that you can barely hold onto for a week. You are much more likely to be busted for your drugs, pipes and needles than you are for sucking a dick for cash.If I'm meeting a girl for the first time and I'm not 100% comfortable about her, I just tell her that I want to show her my dick, and then I pull it out. I expect her to react in some meaningful way--I. E. , grab my cock, show me her tits, show me her pussy, etc. If she doesn't do something like that then I get pretty concerned, although it has never actually happened. Most of the time, I've seen her ads before meeting her, and if her photos show her naked, WITH HER FACE, and I can recognize her when I meet her in person, then I feel safe.
If I'm meeting a girl for the first time and I'm not 100% comfortable about her, I just tell her that I want to show her my dick, and then I pull it out. I expect her to react in some meaningful way--I. E. , grab my cock, show me her tits, show me her pussy, etc. If she doesn't do something like that then I get pretty concerned, although it has never actually happened. Most of the time, I've seen her ads before meeting her, and if her photos show her naked, WITH HER FACE, and I can recognize her when I meet her in person, then I feel safe.Remember this the police lie to get convictions or arrests. Prosecutors and other police will back them up as well. Asking questions ect. Is useless because it will be your word against theirs and they will lie. Your best defense is to keep your mouth shut once arrested, if that should ever happen. Let your lawyer speak for you, or to be more accurate your money.
Remember this the police lie to get convictions or arrests. Prosecutors and other police will back them up as well. Asking questions ect. Is useless because it will be your word against theirs and they will lie. Your best defense is to keep your mouth shut once arrested, if that should ever happen. Let your lawyer speak for you, or to be more accurate your money.The police can lie all they want, but the question is did you do / say anything illegal. They cannot make you say something and convict you based something that wasn't your idea. They can't compel you to act illegally. Example. If a cop goes up to a street walker and says, "Will you give me a blowjob for $30? That's entrapment. The cop compelled the person to act illegally by tempting them to doing something they can claim was against their nature. Now, if the cop were to strike up a conversation with idle chit-chat, and the SW says, "I'll blow you for $30," then the SW just committed a crime out of her own volition. That's a legal arrest.
That's why when online predators are tricked into showing up to meet a child (but is actually a police officer pretending to be a child), they will ask the predator to bring alcohol, drugs, condoms, etc. Because having these items, in addition to the online text, will show that there was intent. They can't use "it was just talking on the computer. Acting a role. I really wasn't going to do anything". Hard to say that with you holding some alcohol and some condoms. They will prove intent.
The police can lie all they want, but the question is did you do / say anything illegal. They cannot make you say something and convict you based something that wasn't your idea. They can't compel you to act illegally. Example. If a cop goes up to a street walker and says, "Will you give me a blowjob for $30? That's entrapment. The cop compelled the person to act illegally by tempting them to doing something they can claim was against their nature. Now, if the cop were to strike up a conversation with idle chit-chat, and the SW says, "I'll blow you for $30," then the SW just committed a crime out of her own volition. That's a legal arrest.
That's why when online predators are tricked into showing up to meet a child (but is actually a police officer pretending to be a child), they will ask the predator to bring alcohol, drugs, condoms, etc. Because having these items, in addition to the online text, will show that there was intent. They can't use "it was just talking on the computer. Acting a role. I really wasn't going to do anything". Hard to say that with you holding some alcohol and some condoms. They will prove intent.You're missing the point unless you have irrefutable evidence they will lie. The cop will say whatever even if he asked the for a blowjob. My point is they lie to get arrests and convictions.
Prosecutors then will tell them what to say on the stand or coach them.
The whole computer predator deal is a whole other story that I know nothing about nor care. Although if you have incriminating texts on your burner phone don't bring it with you would be my suggestion or have it password protected. No fingerprints or facial I'd.
You're missing the point unless you have irrefutable evidence they will lie. The cop will say whatever even if he asked the for a blowjob. My point is they lie to get arrests and convictions.
Prosecutors then will tell them what to say on the stand or coach them.
The whole computer predator deal is a whole other story that I know nothing about nor care. Although if you have incriminating texts on your burner phone don't bring it with you would be my suggestion or have it password protected. No fingerprints or facial I'd.The US legal system favors the accused. They need irrefutable proof. "Innocent until proven guilty. ". The word of a police officer alone isn't enough for a conviction. There has to be physical evidence such as voice recordings, video, proof that cash was exchanged, other witnesses to the alleged action. It's not needed for you to prove you're innocent; they need to prove you're guilty. That's what pleading the 5th is all about. If you are forced to testify against yourself, and you lie, then you were compelled to lie by the court system. By staying quiet and not saying anything at all, it puts the entire burden on the prosecution.
Let me repeat. You don't have to prove you're innocent. They have to prove you're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
The US legal system favors the accused. They need irrefutable proof. "Innocent until proven guilty. ". The word of a police officer alone isn't enough for a conviction. There has to be physical evidence such as voice recordings, video, proof that cash was exchanged, other witnesses to the alleged action. It's not needed for you to prove you're innocent; they need to prove you're guilty. That's what pleading the 5th is all about. If you are forced to testify against yourself, and you lie, then you were compelled to lie by the court system. By staying quiet and not saying anything at all, it puts the entire burden on the prosecution.
Let me repeat. You don't have to prove you're innocent. They have to prove you're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.The cop says you did something, you said you didn't. Who does the judge or jury believe? For example he asks a street walker if she will give him a blowjob for 30 bucks she says yes, he arrests her. They go to court he says she propositioned him. Why do you think they are all wearing body cams to protect themselves yes, but also it's for the accused to make sure the police are being truthful. There was an article in the New York Times, I think, it's been probably over ten years ago about the culture of lying and fabricating evidence. They said it was shocking that not did they lie but it was expected of them.
You watch too much tv. There is no words to say or anything else that will prevent them from arresting you if they want to. The worst thing you can do is answer their questions. Also, guilty until proven innocent is bullshit. They can arrest and charge you knowing nothing will come of it just because they know what a lawyer costs to get you out of bullshit. There are some great cops who are honest, some that are shitty, and there are ones that are on a crusade to get us (yes we are the bad guys or just immoral).
The cop says you did something, you said you didn't. Who does the judge or jury believe? For example he asks a street walker if she will give him a blowjob for 30 bucks she says yes, he arrests her. They go to court he says she propositioned him. Why do you think they are all wearing body cams to protect themselves yes, but also it's for the accused to make sure the police are being truthful. There was an article in the New York Times, I think, it's been probably over ten years ago about the culture of lying and fabricating evidence. They said it was shocking that not did they lie but it was expected of them.
You watch too much tv. There is no words to say or anything else that will prevent them from arresting you if they want to. The worst thing you can do is answer their questions. Also, guilty until proven innocent is bullshit. They can arrest and charge you knowing nothing will come of it just because they know what a lawyer costs to get you out of bullshit. There are some great cops who are honest, some that are shitty, and there are ones that are on a crusade to get us (yes we are the bad guys or just immoral).No. A former job put me around a lot of layers, one very famous one in particular. It's from them that I got my information. If you're curious what that job was, there's a whole thread devoted to it.
No. A former job put me around a lot of layers, one very famous one in particular. It's from them that I got my information. If you're curious what that job was, there's a whole thread devoted to it.Yea well I had a job that put me around a lot of police and another that put me around a lot of criminals, and judges. I have had a run in with the law we're the police straight up lied and broke the law. It was only when my lawyer threaten to bring that to everyone's attention that the charges were dropped but not after it cost me a grand. It took him a couple phone calls to the prosecutor. So yea I was proven innocent of a misdemeanor that would have been cheaper for me just to plead guilty to. Yea justice prevailed LOL. If you are going to play in this game the possibility of getting in a fix is there, no matter how careful.
Yea well I had a job that put me around a lot of police and another that put me around a lot of criminals, and judges. I have had a run in with the law we're the police straight up lied and broke the law. It was only when my lawyer threaten to bring that to everyone's attention that the charges were dropped but not after it cost me a grand. It took him a couple phone calls to the prosecutor. So yea I was proven innocent of a misdemeanor that would have been cheaper for me just to plead guilty to. Yea justice prevailed LOL. If you are going to play in this game the possibility of getting in a fix is there, no matter how careful.
The US legal system favors the accused. They need irrefutable proof. "Innocent until proven guilty. ". The word of a police officer alone isn't enough for a conviction. There has to be physical evidence such as voice recordings, video, proof that cash was exchanged, other witnesses to the alleged action. It's not needed for you to prove you're innocent; they need to prove you're guilty. That's what pleading the 5th is all about. If you are forced to testify against yourself, and you lie, then you were compelled to lie by the court system. By staying quiet and not saying anything at all, it puts the entire burden on the prosecution.
Let me repeat. You don't have to prove you're innocent. They have to prove you're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.I got to go with Bullet. It's wishful thinking to believe otherwise. D-nut is describing the "ideal" not the "real. " I've had run-ins with the law, and simply shutting up isn't going to be enough. You need a lawyer that is like fucking pit bull. There's plenty of examples of people being railroaded into admissions or convictions that never should have happened.
I got to go with Bullet. It's wishful thinking to believe otherwise. D-nut is describing the "ideal" not the "real. " I've had run-ins with the law, and simply shutting up isn't going to be enough. You need a lawyer that is like fucking pit bull. There's plenty of examples of people being railroaded into admissions or convictions that never should have happened.The system is biased for the accused. If your lawyer can't get you the" ideal, then you got yourself a pretty shitty lawyer. That is their job, to get you the best possible trial.
No. A former job put me around a lot of layers, one very famous one in particular. It's from them that I got my information. If you're curious what that job was, there's a whole thread devoted to it.I wouldn't call Jerry Springer a famous lawyer. A famous bullshit talks how host maybe, a stupid monger for sure. I wouldn't trust one bit of legal advise I got from him. He wrote a fucking $100 check to a prostitute for crissakes, when he was mayor of Cincinnati. For years he recited the lame news on channel 5. If he was any good at lawyering he would have stuck with that.
I got to go with Bullet. It's wishful thinking to believe otherwise. D-nut is describing the "ideal" not the "real. " I've had run-ins with the law, and simply shutting up isn't going to be enough. You need a lawyer that is like fucking pit bull. There's plenty of examples of people being railroaded into admissions or convictions that never should have happened.At a minimum, you're going to spend 5-10 grand in legal fees to get acquitted. You will have an arrest on your record. And it WILL make the news with your name. True, the newspaper will run a story when the case is dismissed- usually in the tiniest type available, right below the sun / moonrise and tidal tables. And I'm sure your spouse will be fine with your cover story..../s
I wouldn't call Jerry Springer a famous lawyer. A famous bullshit talks how host maybe, a stupid monger for sure. I wouldn't trust one bit of legal advise I got from him. He wrote a fucking $100 check to a prostitute for crissakes, when he was mayor of Cincinnati. For years he recited the lame news on channel 5. If he was any good at lawyering he would have stuck with that.He is such a bottom feeder. I wouldn't admit it if I worked for him.
The system is biased for the accused. If your lawyer can't get you the" ideal, then you got yourself a pretty shitty lawyer. That is their job, to get you the best possible trial.The system is biased for the lawyers. The accused have to pay lawyers to get out of trouble even when law enforcement has wrongfully accused them. They do nothing to correct this because they profit from abuses. Why do you think marijuana is still illegal, too much money in getting people out of trouble for something stupid that everyone does, that's harmless. That's why they lobbied for the lowering of DUI limits, more money. My friend spent 12 grand to get out of that. Not saying that's bad, but safety wasn't the reason behind it. The system is rigged, lawyers make the laws, lawyers are judges who interpret the law, and lawyers profit from it. If a lawyer does something wrong he has to go in front of the bar association to be punished by a bunch of lawyers. The court system is a good ole boys club ripe with corruption and needs oversight from outside.
No. A former job put me around a lot of layers, one very famous one in particular. It's from them that I got my information. If you're curious what that job was, there's a whole thread devoted to it.
He is such a bottom feeder. I wouldn't admit it if I worked for him.I confess to having missed that thread. Wasn't on my subscription list. For others that don't know, here's a link:
D Nut's old job thread.
Starting to get bored or tired of this hobby. Thinking of walking away for awhile maybe longer. I really just want one maybe 2 steady utr nearby that want my money and nothing else. So many single moms or women in general that are struggling to make ends meet and they could easily enhance their situation by 200 to 800 a month If they are clean, punctual and even somewhat into it once a week or every other week. Someone talk me into staying or encourage me to bolt. Thanks.
PissedOffLaxD
10-28-21, 19:29
Starting to get bored or tired of this hobby. Thinking of walking away for awhile maybe longer. I really just want one maybe 2 steady utr nearby that want my money and nothing else. So many single moms or women in general that are struggling to make ends meet and they could easily enhance their situation by 200 to 800 a month If they are clean, punctual and even somewhat into it once a week or every other week. Someone talk me into staying or encourage me to bolt. Thanks.That's pretty much why Seeking Arrangements, Secret Benefits and similar sites exist.
Starting to get bored or tired of this hobby. Thinking of walking away for awhile maybe longer. I really just want one maybe 2 steady utr nearby that want my money and nothing else. So many single moms or women in general that are struggling to make ends meet and they could easily enhance their situation by 200 to 800 a month If they are clean, punctual and even somewhat into it once a week or every other week. Someone talk me into staying or encourage me to bolt. Thanks.You should quit. Throw in the towel.
Dillsborodave
10-30-21, 09:58
I live out in the country and I have gotten to know a very sexy good looking young woman who bar tends for a living. I have gotten to know her name and checked out her facebook page and there are several pics of her flaunting her body in revealing outfits. Now that is normal for younger women today but there is something about her that my instincts tell me she could really do well as an escort. She is just very nice and friendly and has those tattoos that most escorts have these days. One of the bars she works is an American legion so you know she gets along well with older men. My problem is I can't figure out how to approach her with this idea without seeming like a creepy old guy. I'm sure some of you guys have done this so any advice would be appreciated. I guess just thinking this way makes me a creepy older guy. HA!
I live out in the country and I have gotten to know a very sexy good looking young woman who bar tends for a living. I have gotten to know her name and checked out her facebook page and there are several pics of her flaunting her body in revealing outfits. Now that is normal for younger women today but there is something about her that my instincts tell me she could really do well as an escort. She is just very nice and friendly and has those tattoos that most escorts have these days. One of the bars she works is an American legion so you know she gets along well with older men. My problem is I can't figure out how to approach her with this idea without seeming like a creepy old guy. I'm sure some of you guys have done this so any advice would be appreciated. I guess just thinking this way makes me a creepy older guy. HA!This is usually a good sign she is open to being an UTR.
I say give it the ole college try and see if she bites. If she is down for some fun and I can get her digits from ya, then you got $50 finder's fee coming your way!
Starting to get bored or tired of this hobby. Thinking of walking away for awhile maybe longer. I really just want one maybe 2 steady utr nearby that want my money and nothing else. So many single moms or women in general that are struggling to make ends meet and they could easily enhance their situation by 200 to 800 a month If they are clean, punctual and even somewhat into it once a week or every other week. Someone talk me into staying or encourage me to bolt. Thanks.I'd say back around the glory days of 2008 to 2013 it would be easy to find a clean MILF who would remain a UTR and satisfy all your needs. She'd probably only service a small handful of fellas and still make three grand a month while having naughty fun.
However, these days you'd be quite lucky to get a toothless trailer rat to service you in that way. It's just so damn sad how things have gotten around here.
I live out in the country and I have gotten to know a very sexy good looking young woman who bar tends for a living. I have gotten to know her name and checked out her facebook page and there are several pics of her flaunting her body in revealing outfits. Now that is normal for younger women today but there is something about her that my instincts tell me she could really do well as an escort. She is just very nice and friendly and has those tattoos that most escorts have these days. One of the bars she works is an American legion so you know she gets along well with older men. My problem is I can't figure out how to approach her with this idea without seeming like a creepy old guy. I'm sure some of you guys have done this so any advice would be appreciated. I guess just thinking this way makes me a creepy older guy. HA!Step one: Does she EVER complain about money problems, having to work extra shifts, etc? That's how my ears get perked up for hot chicks in the service industry. Particularly for UTR or SB material.
TroublePlay
10-30-21, 11:58
Step Two: Ask her if she likes older men. If she is sharp, she will recognize the “opening.”
Step one: Does she EVER complain about money problems, having to work extra shifts, etc? That's how my ears get perked up for hot chicks in the service industry. Particularly for UTR or SB material.
Step Two: Ask her if she likes older men. If she is sharp, she will recognize the opening.Step Three: Tell her about a girl that you had a mutually beneficial relationship with. Indicate it started from a conversation a lot like the one you're having right now.
I live out in the country and I have gotten to know a very sexy good looking young woman who bar tends for a living. I have gotten to know her name and checked out her facebook page and there are several pics of her flaunting her body in revealing outfits. Now that is normal for younger women today but there is something about her that my instincts tell me she could really do well as an escort. She is just very nice and friendly and has those tattoos that most escorts have these days. One of the bars she works is an American legion so you know she gets along well with older men. My problem is I can't figure out how to approach her with this idea without seeming like a creepy old guy. I'm sure some of you guys have done this so any advice would be appreciated. I guess just thinking this way makes me a creepy older guy. HA!Ask her if she wants help stuffing the turkey.
MontyCliff
10-30-21, 14:48
I live out in the country and I have gotten to know a very sexy good looking young woman who bar tends for a living. I have gotten to know her name and checked out her facebook page and there are several pics of her flaunting her body in revealing outfits. Now that is normal for younger women today but there is something about her that my instincts tell me she could really do well as an escort. She is just very nice and friendly and has those tattoos that most escorts have these days. One of the bars she works is an American legion so you know she gets along well with older men. My problem is I can't figure out how to approach her with this idea without seeming like a creepy old guy. I'm sure some of you guys have done this so any advice would be appreciated. I guess just thinking this way makes me a creepy older guy. HA!Ask her out for lunch. If she declines, no harm done. If she accepts, go from there.
Step Three: Tell her about a girl that you had a mutually beneficial relationship with. Indicate it started from a conversation a lot like the one you're having right now.Anyone taking any advice from this guy (ROGER OVER I'm REFERING TO) is insane.
He is far the biggest DOUCHE on this site.
Arrogant.
COCKEY.
Rude.
AND JUST AN ALL AROUND DOUCHE.
And if I get ots for this comment.
Its worth it.
I live out in the country and I have gotten to know a very sexy good looking young woman who bar tends for a living. I have gotten to know her name and checked out her facebook page and there are several pics of her flaunting her body in revealing outfits. Now that is normal for younger women today but there is something about her that my instincts tell me she could really do well as an escort. She is just very nice and friendly and has those tattoos that most escorts have these days. One of the bars she works is an American legion so you know she gets along well with older men. My problem is I can't figure out how to approach her with this idea without seeming like a creepy old guy. I'm sure some of you guys have done this so any advice would be appreciated. I guess just thinking this way makes me a creepy older guy. HA!It's a bartenders job to be friendly with customers and be nice. Remember, if she's pretty she gets hit on all the time. I would keep talking to her see how it goes ask her out if you think it's going good. If you have no game, just play the dumb game. Ask what's all this you heAR about something called OF. What's a sugar baby? Then let her explain it to you if she knows. Nowadays she's probably a lesbian so good luck.
Anyone taking any advice from this guy (ROGER OVER I'm REFERING TO) is insane.
He is far the biggest DOUCHE on this site.
Arrogant.
COCKEY.
Rude.
AND JUST AN ALL AROUND DOUCHE.
And if I get ots for this comment.
Its worth it.Don't you have some toothless, skanky hooker to go stick your little pecker in for $5? LOL Stupid twat.
Todd Cincy
10-30-21, 20:28
I had hopes for this when it first appeared. I looked on there today, though, and it might be renamed, "America's Least Wanted".
Fatties, nasties, grandmas, and a few halfway decent girls who want about 2 x what they're worth.
Waiting for the market to improve!
I had hopes for this when it first appeared. I looked on there today, though, and it might be renamed, "America's Least Wanted".
Fatties, nasties, grandmas, and a few halfway decent girls who want about 2 x what they're worth.
Waiting for the market to improve!It's really like if a Dollar Store opened on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills. Same crappy merchandise, that they're now going to price at 10 x their rate at other locations. Someone told a provider of the "standard rate" at Tryst, and word spread. So the same unattractive providers offering the same crappy service are now asking for higher rates.
I had hopes for this when it first appeared. I looked on there today, though, and it might be renamed, "America's Least Wanted".
Fatties, nasties, grandmas, and a few halfway decent girls who want about 2 x what they're worth.
Waiting for the market to improve!I only met one girl off Tryst. A sexy Filipino who sucked me pretty good down in DC. But overall it does seem full of over priced ROBs.
Eros might be better?
Don't you have some toothless, skanky hooker to go stick your little pecker in for $5? LOL Stupid twat.I would dog walk you on my worst day old man. Don't jump outside your comfort zone and get ***** slapped. Difference is I would say that to your face in everyday life as well.
Don't try me.
Cause I'm not the 1.
I would dog walk you on my worst day old man. Don't jump outside your comfort zone and get ***** slapped. Difference is I would say that to your face in everyday life as well.
Don't try me.
Cause I'm not the 1.Could you be specific? Are you saying you want to put on a collar and have me walk you? I almost feel like there should be some dramatic music with the way you see yourself. lol
You aren't the 1. You aren't shit. So go fuck right off shit stain.
Could you be specific? Are you saying you want to put on a collar and have me walk you? I almost feel like there should be some dramatic music with the way you see yourself. lol
You aren't the 1. You aren't shit. So go fuck right off shit stain.You need me to Be more specific? Sure no problem.
You think your somebody on this site. You think your important. You think people on here respect you and appreciate what you offer on the site.
Your wrong. NO ONE DOES. NO ONE LIKES you.
Your an arrogant, conceited, self centered old man who hides in his house behind a keyboard talking down to people on here cause that's where you feel safe. Behind a keyboard in your home.
I CLOWN ON you ALL THE TIME on this site cause that's what you are A CLOWN.
I don't respect you or the type of human you are.
BE MORE SPECIFIC you SAID RIGHT.
Well I'm extending an open invitation to you.
Lets meet up an have a little heart to heart chat in person face to face.
And see if you have that same ENERGY towards me you did in your last message you typed from behind your keyboard.
Tick tock doc.
Your move.
You think your somebody on this site. You think your important. You think people on here respect you and appreciate what you offer on the site.
Your wrong. NO ONE DOES. NO ONE LIKES you.I do. But then I'm my own person and I don't like it when other people try to speak for me.
Vinnie Kramer
11-04-21, 08:02
I've generally liked Roger.
I used to ignore KidKuddi until I realized the comedic genius he is.
I do. But then I'm my own person and I don't like it when other people try to speak for me.
Anyone have any experience with P411? I know it's a bit pricey. I'm just tired of all of the verification hoops. Also does anyone have any experience with Seeking Arrangements? I guess the premise of that site is they're a higher quality girl? I don't know. But for the cost they all better be tornadoes in the sheets.
MisforMaster
11-09-21, 16:38
Anyone have any experience with P411? I know it's a bit pricey. I'm just tired of all of the verification hoops. Also does anyone have any experience with Seeking Arrangements? I guess the premise of that site is they're a higher quality girl? I don't know. But for the cost they all better be tornadoes in the sheets.I'm +1 on Seeking, but, it is its own job to wade through the time wasters, the clock watchers, and the escorts pretending to be Sugar Babies, but, I think that the reward of finding the right chick on Seeking is 1000% better than finding a hot escort. Since getting back out there after my last long-term SB, I've managed to keep three young 20-somethings who have been orbiting around me relatively happy and I'm spending less money on them than I was my last long-term SB.
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