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Would you care to share some of your proof? Maybe you should start with lowest unemployment -- no, that's now. Possibly stock market numbers -- no, again this administration has had the highest in history. Now I'm curious as to what you see with conservative policy hurting the economy. And you can leave Regan's numbers out because we did overspend, but that was by design to totally bankrupt the USSR. Ball is in your court for proof.Actually, the historic patterns show that President Obama was more successful in helping the economy. These chart shows that starting with March 2019 (2 months after President Obama inherited a global meltdown), the market started climbing, and continued to climb until he help office in Jan. 2017 with the stock market 147% HIGHER than when he started.
Now, comparing apples to apples, with only the first 36 months (up to Jan, 2020, before the COVID-19 crisis), the second chart will show that at the same point in their presidencies, President Obama grew the stock market 57%, while Donald Trump only grew it 47%; a 15% difference. So while it's true that the stock market was on a record high, that upward trajectory started in March, 2009. Also, it's worth pointing out that in 2017, the GOP Congress, Senate, and Donald Trump cut corporate taxes from 35% to 20%, and corporations used the savings for STOCK BUYBACKS, artificially inflating the stock market, without actually expanding business.
I'm sure someone will attempt to bring up the TARP program of 2009, injecting $780 BILLION dollars in corporate and bank relief and that's the same as the tax cuts. The difference is that TARP was 100% paid back. In fact, it made a PROFIT of $40 million dollars after all the loans were repaid and the stocks issued to the government as collateral was sold. So while the 2017 tax cut was just money lost, TARP made a profit for the Federal Govt. And Joe Taxpayer.
Now, if we were to inject real world numbers, we can't ignore that in the last 3 month, all the stock market increase that came about starting in January 2017, has been wiped out. Currently, the stocks are back to about what they were when Donald Trump was sworn into office. I am not saying that Trump created the COVID-19 global pandemic. But you can only use COVID-19 so often as an excuse.
Although this has nothing to do with the stock market, let me point out 2 key differences in the personalities of President Obama and President Trump. The day after President Obama was sworn in, January 21,2009, he was assembled in the White House with the new cabinet, the Fed chairman, and members of the banking industry working to stop the global economic meltdown. It was May, 2009, before he took time off. (his schedule is public record). The day after President Trump was sworn into office, January 21 of 2017, he flew on Air Force One to Florida and golfed that weekend. He took a break from work, before he did one second of work; a trip that cost taxpayers $3 MILLION, some of which was paid to Trump Resorts to house and feed his staff and security detail. Like I said, the Presidential vacation time doesn't have any bearing on the stock market, but it sheds a lot of light on the type of people they were.
Would you care to share some of your proof? Maybe you should start with lowest unemployment -- no, that's now. Possibly stock market numbers -- no, again this administration has had the highest in history. Now I'm curious as to what you see with conservative policy hurting the economy. And you can leave Regan's numbers out because we did overspend, but that was by design to totally bankrupt the USSR. Ball is in your court for proof.Lets see you stated unemployment numbers. First numbers can be manipulated and have been in history many times by each party then adjusted, which nobody pays attention to. Second, unemployment numbers are not total fact because some workers after searching for a time just drop off reporting, a statistical gray area. Now the stock market is not perfect indicator of the economy by itself because those numbers do not directly correspond with everyday economics (the 99%ers average buying power) anymore and we were headed for a downward adjustment anyway, but now Trump can use this crisis as an excuse it wasn't him. What is little known or talked about are all the executive orders he made shredding all the safety nets that use to be in place for the stock market after the 08 crash, but he removed because his friends could make more money with less restrictive rules, which were there to protect our 401's etc. The tax cuts made the top 1% richer and he gloated at Mar.-a-lago the weekend after telling those there he just made them richer. This new stimulus plan will have mostly the same effect with some buying power given to the everyday workers. The biggest problem coming down the pipeline is somebody is going to have to pay the bills later. At last estimate the deficit was astounding, now add loss of gdp this quarter and the stimulus means our kids or grandkids will be in bondage to some foreign power if we don't quit borrowing to pay for our government spending.
As a free market republican, we have always known that only one number encapsulates what the economy is doing, and that's GDP.
All the other statistical whimsies are nothing more than red herrings.
In high school the course was known as Econ 101.
BarnesMike32
03-25-20, 07:02
As a free market republican, we have always known that only one number encapsulates what the economy is doing, and that's GDP.
All the other statistical whimsies are nothing more than red herrings.
In high school the course was known as Econ 101.Gosh, so why do they bother to keep track of inflation, unemployment, the trade deficit or surplus, etc. ? Can't we just fire most of the economists in the government and hire them back if we need to?
Would you care to share some of your proof? Maybe you should start with lowest unemployment -- no, that's now. Possibly stock market numbers -- no, again this administration has had the highest in history. Now I'm curious as to what you see with conservative policy hurting the economy. And you can leave Regan's numbers out because we did overspend, but that was by design to totally bankrupt the USSR. Ball is in your court for proof.What's that old joke? "2 out of three Americans can't do basic math. The other half can!
ALL of the indicators you claim support "Trump is better for the economy" are near-perfect linear increases from the 2009 to 2016 trends under Obama- except that Trump dramatically jumped the deficit with his tax cut, and the trade deficit with his tariffs. All the other metrics were exactly where they should have been if the economy had continued the same growth rates (obviously this last month is a statistical outlier and quite fairly is not and shouldn't be counted). Obama inherited a disastrous meltdown and turned it into steady growth. Trimp's number are the same growth continued at the same rate. Maybe pictures will help you get this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/08/20/trump-v-obama-economy-charts/
This WaPo column is an opinion piece, but it makes the argument by showing the actual GDP, employment, etc. Data over the time period in question. It shows exactly what I have said- the economy WAS growing when Trump inherited it, and continues to grow steadily, at the same rate. Trump hasn't changed it in any meaningful way.
Since you obviously don't get economics, lets try a sports example- a football team is up by 42-0 at the end of the 3rd quarter (6 touchdowns) , when the head coach dies. The assistant coach takes over and the team scores 2 more touchdowns in the 4th quarter, for a final score of 56-nothing (an all-time scoring record for the team). The new coach proclaims that the greatest scoring day the team has ever recorded is due to HIS brilliant coaching!
In other words, the best you COULD HAVE said for Trump's handling of the economy is that he hasn't managed to fuck up what Obama accomplished. But I have faith in Don, he will manage it somehow!
Since you closed with a sports metaphor, I'll lob one back:
Game, set, and match.
The good dr.
As a free market republican, we have always known that only one number encapsulates what the economy is doing, and that's GDP.
All the other statistical whimsies are nothing more than red herrings.
In high school the course was known as Econ 101.I would add that you also need to look at purchasing power- If a working person's wages buy less and less of that growing pie, then in the "real world" that's not a "strong" economy. I recall my Econo 101 professor putting it in these terms:
"The only meaningful economic indicator is the number of minutes a journeyman carpenter must work to buy a loaf of bread".
The price of that bread (and cars, and housing, and education, and healthcare) has gone up-a lot. The carpenter's wages haven't.
Tgd.
I would add that you also need to look at purchasing power- If a working person's wages buy less and less of that growing pie, then in the "real world" that's not a "strong" economy. I recall my Econo 101 professor putting it in these terms:
"The only meaningful economic indicator is the number of minutes a journeyman carpenter must work to buy a loaf of bread".
The price of that bread (and cars, and housing, and education, and healthcare) has gone up-a lot. The carpenter's wages haven't.
Tgd.To some extent, GDP captures this. If consumers were not spending the GDP would not rise.
Additionally, over the last 10 years inflation has remained almost historically low.
To some extent, GDP captures this. If consumers were not spending the GDP would not rise.
Additionally, over the last 10 years inflation has remained almost historically low.The lie that is spread that deficit increase is caused by tax cuts. The deficit increase is the result of a split Congress / Presidency. The need to spend on Military after it was gutted by "austerity" measures previously led to increase in social spending. Both sides had to give in to the others spending wishes to get what they deemed necessary. We are seeing the first real wage increases in this country in decades. This is a result of labor demand and resurgence in manufacturing. The economy grew in service related fields from 2009-2016, but Construction and manufacturing has seen a boom since 2016. Those are the jobs that create wealth, not act as just a pass thru. Real buybing power by that carpenter has increased.
Any intelligent person can produce numbers in such a way as to support either side of most equations. Truth is, everyone felt much better about their economic situation since President Trump took office. Our debt and deficit will continue to increase until the biggest driver, "entitlements" is addressed, which isn't going to happen anytime soon. The politics is too toxic to be taken on and expect to be re-elected.
I was reading the thread and thinking how quaint the "laizzes-faire"(sp?) arguments now seem.
Record GDP growth? More like record drop.
Low unemployment? Hmmm. Not anymore.
Stock market? Since Trump's election it is basically flat.
Deficit / debt? Still skyrocketing.
BarnesMike32
03-25-20, 10:46
Dr. Dave gets it. And his spelling and grammar are impeccable!
I was reading the thread and thinking how quaint the "laizzes-faire"(sp?) arguments now seem.
Record GDP growth? More like record drop.
Low unemployment? Hmmm. Not anymore.
Stock market? Since Trump's election it is basically flat.
Deficit / debt? Still skyrocketing.Hairy2, other than the deficit / debt, the other items you mention have absolutely NOTHING to do with Trumps' policies. All those other items are due to one thing and one thing only: a monster called "coronavirus" that the Chinese unleashed on the world and then tried to hide it and then, when it became too big to hide any longer, they lied about it.
If you're disputing that Trump's policies weren't working PRIOR TO the virus outbreak, then give us some facts and figures to prove your points. Otherwise, to blame Trump, or anybody else for that matter other than the Chinese government, for the downturn of the past month is absolutely ridiculous.
And on the deficit / debt item, Jeh123 is absolutely right--we're in a deep debt hole because we give away too much stuff. How has Lyndon Johnson's "War On Poverty" gone? How many trillions of dollars have been spent on food stamps, public housing, Obama phones, etc and where has it gotten us? There are as many "poor" people in the US today as there were 50 years ago. It's all bullshit.
The lie that is spread that deficit increase is caused by tax cuts. The deficit increase is the result of a split Congress / Presidency. The need to spend on Military after it was gutted by "austerity" measures previously led to increase in social spending. Both sides had to give in to the others spending wishes to get what they deemed necessary. We are seeing the first real wage increases in this country in decades. This is a result of labor demand and resurgence in manufacturing. The economy grew in service related fields from 2009-2016, but Construction and manufacturing has seen a boom since 2016. Those are the jobs that create wealth, not act as just a pass thru. Real buybing power by that carpenter has increased.
Any intelligent person can produce numbers in such a way as to support either side of most equations. Truth is, everyone felt much better about their economic situation since President Trump took office. Our debt and deficit will continue to increase until the biggest driver, "entitlements" is addressed, which isn't going to happen anytime soon. The politics is too toxic to be taken on and expect to be re-elected.Your headline was an absolute lie. The tax cut DECREASED tax revenues.
The rest of your spin was nothing more than right wing mantras, not true republican intelligence.
The military was never "gutted" by austerity. That's just comical. Extreme Right Wingers love to say that! Just to support massive military expenditures.
Your headline was an absolute lie. The tax cut DECREASED tax revenues.
The rest of your spin was nothing more than right wing mantras, not true republican intelligence.
The military was never "gutted" by austerity. That's just comical. Extreme Right Wingers love to say that! Just to support massive military expenditures.Go to https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762#us-tax-revenue-by-year.
USA Tax Revenue by Year.
Here's a record of income for each fiscal year since 1789. Tax receipts fell off during the recession but started setting new records by FY 2013.6.
Fiscal Year Revenue.
FY 2021 $3. 86 (estimated).
FY 2020 $3. 71 trillion (estimated).
FY 2019 $3. 46 trillion (actual).
FY 2018 $3. 33 trillion.
FY 2017 $3. 32 trillion.
FY 2016 $3. 27 trillion.
FY 2015 $3. 25 trillion.
FY 2014 $3. 02 trillion.
FY 2013 $2. 77 trillion.
FY 2012 $2. 45 trillion.
FY 2011 $2. 30 trillion.
FY 2010 $2. 16 trillion.
FY 2009 $2. 10 trillion.
WanderingAbout
03-25-20, 13:16
A new report published today by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the National Center for Transgender Equality, and 22 other United States-based human rights organizations finds that 52 percent of Americans and two-thirds of voters age 18 to 44 years support decriminalizing sex work.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/01/30/more-americans-favor-decriminalizing-sex-work#.
Jeh123, your numbers are misleading. Tax revenue did go up after the 2017 tax cuts was passed by the GOP Congress, Senate, and White House. However, what those numbers of yours are not showing is where the source of the increase came from. Here's a graph. Those increases are almost completely paid for by individuals, not corporate tax collections. Businesses were not paying more; people were. Those increased tax revenues you are tauting are on the backs of individual tax payers, while corporate taxes actually DECREASED.
You might argue that people are making more money and that's why they are paying more. That's actually not true. The national median household income has remained level, while inflation has gone up. So, taxes for individuals have gone up, their pay has stayed the same, but their purchasing power has dropped.
Go to https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762#us-tax-revenue-by-year.
USA Tax Revenue by Year.
Here's a record of income for each fiscal year since 1789. Tax receipts fell off during the recession but started setting new records by FY 2013.6.
Fiscal Year Revenue.
FY 2021 $3. 86 (estimated).
FY 2020 $3. 71 trillion (estimated).
FY 2019 $3. 46 trillion (actual).
FY 2018 $3. 33 trillion.
FY 2017 $3. 32 trillion.
FY 2016 $3. 27 trillion.
FY 2015 $3. 25 trillion.
FY 2014 $3. 02 trillion.
FY 2013 $2. 77 trillion.
FY 2012 $2. 45 trillion.
FY 2011 $2. 30 trillion.
FY 2010 $2. 16 trillion.
FY 2009 $2. 10 trillion.
Go to https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762#us-tax-revenue-by-year.
USA Tax Revenue by Year.
Here's a record of income for each fiscal year since 1789. Tax receipts fell off during the recession but started setting new records by FY 2013.6.
Fiscal Year Revenue.
FY 2021 $3. 86 (estimated).
FY 2020 $3. 71 trillion (estimated).
FY 2019 $3. 46 trillion (actual).
FY 2018 $3. 33 trillion.
FY 2017 $3. 32 trillion.
FY 2016 $3. 27 trillion.
FY 2015 $3. 25 trillion.
FY 2014 $3. 02 trillion.
FY 2013 $2. 77 trillion.
FY 2012 $2. 45 trillion.
FY 2011 $2. 30 trillion.
FY 2010 $2. 16 trillion.
FY 2009 $2. 10 trillion.Gross revenues always go up, they have to, the population grows dummy. 😂.
The per capita rate of growth did not go up, due to. Surprise. The tax cut!
CincyKayak
03-25-20, 14:31
Yes, government is spending tons of money. More importantly, the governor is the biggest cock blocker ever! Well, I guess that is if you follow the stay at home order.
To some extent, GDP captures this. If consumers were not spending the GDP would not rise.
Additionally, over the last 10 years inflation has remained almost historically low.Seen GDP and immediately thought of group double penetration. Can we throw a little pussy power buying into this talk. Anyone one going to splurge and spend their fed money on a top tier provider or 2?
Seen GDP and immediately thought of group double penetration. Can we throw a little pussy power buying into this talk. Anyone one going to splurge and spend their fed money on a top tier provider or 2?Excellent point. The APOP (Average Price of Pussy) has clearly risen faster than inflation since I have been in the hobby. For a lousier and lousier product. Amazing how many ladies with average looks, average performance, and a vanilla menu think they are worth 2. 5 for an hour. Shit, in my first year hobbying I had an hour duo (that ended up as 2 hours with seconds during a group shower) for that same price with Sasha Black and Cupcake. The Days of Wine and Roses.
The good (old) dr.
Excellent point. The APOP (Average Price of Pussy) has clearly risen faster than inflation since I have been in the hobby. For a lousier and lousier product. Amazing how many ladies with average looks, average performance, and a vanilla menu think they are worth 2. 5 for an hour. Shit, in my first year hobbying I had an hour duo (that ended up as 2 hours with seconds during a group shower) for that same price with Sasha Black and Cupcake. The Days of Wine and Roses.
The good (old) dr.Here is a reminder. Sasha and Cupcake (CC) in the shower together. The moment you mentioned taking a shower together, I remembered this pic from one of their ad posts in the old advertiser thread.
Now that we have this image burned into our brains for spankbank material, one question remains. Who was in the shower with them that took this photo?
FortunateSon1
03-25-20, 22:02
Your headline was an absolute lie. The tax cut DECREASED tax revenues.
The rest of your spin was nothing more than right wing mantras, not true republican intelligence.
The military was never "gutted" by austerity. That's just comical. Extreme Right Wingers love to say that! Just to support massive military expenditures.This shows one of the biggest differences in the viewpoints. You assumed the word "TAX" in his comment. I could care less about tax revenues, and actually would prefer to see them decrease. He was referring to the revenues that matter, and taxes don't. The less money in the hands of the government, the better. Government does not have the ability to create wealth, that only occurs in the private sector.
My goals are smaller government, less restriction, and more personal freedom. If the constitution doesn't list a power, it shouldn't exist. Every president for the past 80 years or so has been expanding the scope and power of the federal government, and it shouldn't be the case. The federal government was meant to be small, with the majority of the power residing with the states. Almost every 3 letter government agency and bureau shouldn't exist.
The military was gutted during the Obama administration, because that wasn't a priority of his. The two party system and the career politicians are what has destroyed the country.
This shows one of the biggest differences in the viewpoints. You assumed the word "TAX" in his comment. I could care less about tax revenues, and actually would prefer to see them decrease. He was referring to the revenues that matter, and taxes don't. The less money in the hands of the government, the better. Government does not have the ability to create wealth, that only occurs in the private sector.
My goals are smaller government, less restriction, and more personal freedom. If the constitution doesn't list a power, it shouldn't exist. Every president for the past 80 years or so has been expanding the scope and power of the federal government, and it shouldn't be the case. The federal government was meant to be small, with the majority of the power residing with the states. Almost every 3 letter government agency and bureau shouldn't exist.
The military was gutted during the Obama administration, because that wasn't a priority of his. The two party system and the career politicians are what has destroyed the country.First off we currently spend close to 150 billion a year more than the next nine nations combined on our military. Man the pussy I could buy with 716 billion dollars. Second. Partially due to the war Obama inherited from President Cheney and Vice President John Bolton the first few years of Obama's tenure saw significant increases in the military budget, got close to 800 BILLION dollars. Then tapered off as the wars drew down to a paltry 612 billion for the year 2016. Come on dude, just be frank and don't gaslight us. You don't like Obama, I have a pretty good idea why, but don't sit here and tell me that spending over 600 billion dollars a year on the military is "gutting it" when countries like China and Russia spend a quarter of that. SMH.
NAFTA by design took out the higher priced jobs for the unskilled and uneducated. Big difference.
They sew jeans in Mexico for 2 bucks an hour. A border collie can do this work. No need to pay Americans 20 bucks to do it. The displaced simply needed to get advanced skills or advanced education. The FREE job training programs were there for decades; some were just too lazy to partake.
The facts of NAFTA. They hurt. Sorry.
And all you fellow Republicans, know this, we Republicans voted for it, support it, and love it. It is PURE CAPITALISM. The free market.Pure capitalism sucks. American borders collies need work too. Some fellow hard working Americans are born with IQ's under 100, and they are our Brothers and Sisters. And there is no reason they shouldn't have decent jobs that afford them a comfortable life. Reagan changed that. That was the turning point where it was OK to ship their jobs to China and leave them in the dust of despair. I remember a book called "Who moved my cheese", a bunch of greedy selfish traitors moved their cheese. Everyone was doing pretty good before greed became acceptable. "If men were Angels no government would be necessary".
This shows one of the biggest differences in the viewpoints. You assumed the word "TAX" in his comment. I could care less about tax revenues, and actually would prefer to see them decrease. He was referring to the revenues that matter, and taxes don't. The less money in the hands of the government, the better. Government does not have the ability to create wealth, that only occurs in the private sector.
My goals are smaller government, less restriction, and more personal freedom. If the constitution doesn't list a power, it shouldn't exist. Every president for the past 80 years or so has been expanding the scope and power of the federal government, and it shouldn't be the case. The federal government was meant to be small, with the majority of the power residing with the states. Almost every 3 letter government agency and bureau shouldn't exist.
The military was gutted during the Obama administration, because that wasn't a priority of his. The two party system and the career politicians are what has destroyed the country.It's a LIE that the military was "gutted" under Obama. You know it, I know it, anyone intelligent knows it, and Jim Jaimes described the facts perfectly in his post.
I want to address your Libertarian "the federal government needs to get out of the way" hypocrisy.
Yes, the Dudley Do-Right constitutionalists LOVE to sing this tune. And then:
When the shit hits the fan, like as in, a Pandemic!
"The federal government needs to help us! Why isn't the federal government doing more? Why are these senators not giving my state more money? Help! Help!
Yeah get real with your high and mighty libertarian bullshit.
BarnesMike32
03-26-20, 07:20
BengalMan and DNut get it, too! I love charts. Thanks, BengalMan. I would love to know what people's careers are. There are some very educate folks in here. And some not, as well.
Buster6914
03-26-20, 08:06
You all ought to stop this nonsense. Civil discourse isn't going to change anyone's opinion, and this doesn't even qualify as civil. Once a mind is made up or an opinion is formed it isn't going to change no matter what is said. The hardest thing in the world to open is a closed mind, from either side of the aisle. Let's stop with the political shit and get back to discussing pussy and the women we love or don't.
It's a LIE that the military was "gutted" under Obama. You know it, I know it, anyone intelligent knows it, and Jim Jaimes described the facts perfectly in his post.
I want to address your Libertarian "the federal government needs to get out of the way" hypocrisy.
Yes, the Dudley Do-Right constitutionalists LOVE to sing this tune. And then:
When the shit hits the fan, like as in, a Pandemic!
"The federal government needs to help us! Why isn't the federal government doing more? Why are these senators not giving my state more money? Help! Help!
Yeah get real with your high and mighty libertarian bullshit.
Sir LanceLicksalot
03-26-20, 09:00
I totally agree with you. All I can say is that I am glad this shit is in the Octagon. Speculation, conjecture and conspiracy theories are just ramblings of bored people. Nothing that is said will change the outcome or find out answers any quicker.
The answers will come eventually or they won't. We should be concentrating getting through this as best as we can.
You all ought to stop this nonsense. Civil discourse isn't going to change anyone's opinion, and this doesn't even qualify as civil. Once a mind is made up or an opinion is formed it isn't going to change no matter what is said. The hardest thing in the world to open is a closed mind, from either side of the aisle. Let's stop with the political shit and get back to discussing pussy and the women we love or don't.
You all ought to stop this nonsense. Civil discourse isn't going to change anyone's opinion, and this doesn't even qualify as civil. Once a mind is made up or an opinion is formed it isn't going to change no matter what is said. The hardest thing in the world to open is a closed mind, from either side of the aisle. Let's stop with the political shit and get back to discussing pussy and the women we love or don't.This conversation started out fun. But with politics it always goes too far. Very well said!
Mondo.
MollyDaniels
03-26-20, 12:42
I totally agree with you. All I can say is that I am glad this shit is in the Octagon. Speculation, conjecture and conspiracy theories are just ramblings of bored people. Nothing that is said will change the outcome or find out answers any quicker.
The answers will come eventually or they won't. We should be concentrating getting through this as best as we can.What about a new section called the political prickyard?
It might be because of the Wuhan LockDown 2020, but there's tons of posts here from the last few days. With numbers and 'probable' facts and stuff to back up opinions (sorry. To lazy to authenticate the facts myself).
Seems like a rant about anything other than politics would just drown in the sea of politics right now.
Lets talk about good old barebacking!
Lets talk about good old barebacking!I don't want to talk about it because I would rather go out and do it, since your uncle Sam has been doing it to everybody for years. Say hell yes to cream pies. Play safe T.
I don't want to talk about it because I would rather go out and do it, since your uncle Sam has been doing it to everybody for years. Say hell yes to cream pies. Play safe T.Is that who's going around and causing all these single mothers?
CincyHobbist
03-26-20, 21:23
Is that who's going around and causing all these single mothers?You do realize that single teenage mothers are on a decline, right? A report last year stated that the millennials are having less sex then any other generation! After reading that and talking to my wife and sons, I came away feeling like I am a perverted old man! Oh wait. I am. I am a site dedicated to finding pussy!
What about a new section called the political prickyard?
It might be because of the Wuhan LockDown 2020, but there's tons of posts here from the last few days. With numbers and 'probable' facts and stuff to back up opinions (sorry. To lazy to authenticate the facts myself).
Seems like a rant about anything other than politics would just drown in the sea of politics right now.Reminds of a great one I heard:
"I've found a great way to save on my Christmas shopping! I just start a political discussion at Thanksgiving. ".
Tgd.
Lets talk about good old barebacking!And just like that, the argument was over. And the people cheered!
Tgd.
WanderingAbout
03-27-20, 18:10
Friend over a cross the porch social distancing beer shared a story about a young lady he encountered. This is more about a WTF SMH moment. The two were messaging back and forth when suddenly her text rips him a new asshole, says he is getting the 3 B's Blocked, Blacklisted and put on Blast. Why? For asking something you shouldn't ask. Like, for the sake of this story, is CBJ okay? Can't remember exactly what he said. Wasn't more vulgar than that tho. Now mind you her ad online says "I love helping fulfill fantasies: pegging, spanking, foot fetishes, gs, etc. " (explicit yes?) and she had all ready text "No anal or CIM" (explicit yes? Crazy how some ladies are explicit in their ads and text but freak if you text about something similar to what they have already said. Ladies, you already said you would fuck for $250 and you don't think you are now exposed? He said he was like whatever. She's a spaz. Next.
What about a new section called the political prickyard?
It might be because of the Wuhan LockDown 2020, but there's tons of posts here from the last few days. With numbers and 'probable' facts and stuff to back up opinions (sorry. To lazy to authenticate the facts myself).
Seems like a rant about anything other than politics would just drown in the sea of politics right now.A new section called overpriced Pussy? Kidding! I'd be all in if I weren't saddled with UTR's that have Mom's, kid's and Grandma's with 6 birthdays a year, plus I don't have references. And don't like soccer. Glad to see a provider in the Octagon. We're all bored. Personally no kids, no cat, no dog, and no SO, so yes, I post here out of boredom, because currently no providers. When it comes to ventilators if shit is busy, I won't make the cut. JJ.
Longhorn is using a burner cell number to text when you ther there for your order. It feels like a 2-call system. LOL.
You are a small minded human. Profiting off my name I would never work for you again. You are holding on to anything you possibly can thinking I would come back. Go ahead send people to my hub I'm making ad revenue. Keeping my pictures on your site just to spite me. You're a creepy stalker, you will never look good in any situation you put yourself in.
I have a question for you all, can we just private message A2? I have a question for him.
Then why haven't you messaged me?
Admin2
JackRussell
03-31-20, 01:17
You are a small minded human. Profiting off my name I would never work for you again. You are holding on to anything you possibly can thinking I would come back. Go ahead send people to my hub I'm making ad revenue. Keeping my pictures on your site just to spite me. You're a creepy stalker, you will never look good in any situation you put yourself in.Thank you for clearing this up. We look forward to seeing you when the world gets back to normal.
I was chatting with a provider who asked an interesting question. Acknowledging that times are hard and a lot of people don't have the disposable income they once did, how can she entice clients without herself losing out by lowering prices. She does have a point. Just like everyone, she also has bills that need to be paid.
I suggested that instead of taking less money, to ADD time. Instead of (for example only) charging $200 for an hour, still charge $200 but for 75 minutes or 90 minutes. She is asking about getting more clients so I believe I can safely assume that she doesn't have the current client base to schedule back-to-back-to-back clients; she has downtime. Not many of us can still go longer than an hour, have multiple pops within that hour, get to position 85 of the Kama Sutra without doing physical therapy afterwards, etc. , but offering some extra time to catch one's breath between pops could provide some incentive in these challenging times. (I am only stating my suggestion, but I'm sure someone will take this as a challenge to a debate over the merits of this idea. It's not open for debate.).
The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?
TechSticles
04-03-20, 16:35
I was chatting with a provider who asked an interesting question. Acknowledging that times are hard and a lot of people don't have the disposable income they once did, how can she entice clients without herself losing out by lowering prices. She does have a point. Just like everyone, she also has bills that need to be paid.
I suggested that instead of taking less money, to ADD time. Instead of (for example only) charging $200 for an hour, still charge $200 but for 75 minutes or 90 minutes. She is asking about getting more clients so I believe I can safely assume that she doesn't have the current client base to schedule back-to-back-to-back clients; she has downtime. Not many of us can still go longer than an hour, have multiple pops within that hour, get to position 85 of the Kama Sutra without doing physical therapy afterwards, etc. , but offering some extra time to catch one's breath between pops could provide some incentive in these challenging times. (I am only stating my suggestion, but I'm sure someone will take this as a challenge to a debate over the merits of this idea. It's not open for debate.).
The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?The p411 girls are trying to hold hard to their high rates, but I don't see it happening as their regulars start to drop off. I've noticed the girls that like to sort of dictate terms and act hard to get seem to more available these days. In a couple of weeks it will be a buyer's market. I don't mean that they will go to bargain basement prices, but the whole "$350 for an hour, 550 for 90 min" (how does that math even make sense?) will drop off the board.
Had one the other day say she was willing to do me a favor by dropping the multi-hour requirement. Well, I don't think I need any favors right now.
I was chatting with a provider who asked an interesting question. Acknowledging that times are hard and a lot of people don't have the disposable income they once did, how can she entice clients without herself losing out by lowering prices. She does have a point. Just like everyone, she also has bills that need to be paid.
I suggested that instead of taking less money, to ADD time. Instead of (for example only) charging $200 for an hour, still charge $200 but for 75 minutes or 90 minutes. She is asking about getting more clients so I believe I can safely assume that she doesn't have the current client base to schedule back-to-back-to-back clients; she has downtime. Not many of us can still go longer than an hour, have multiple pops within that hour, get to position 85 of the Kama Sutra without doing physical therapy afterwards, etc. , but offering some extra time to catch one's breath between pops could provide some incentive in these challenging times. (I am only stating my suggestion, but I'm sure someone will take this as a challenge to a debate over the merits of this idea. It's not open for debate.).
The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?Before long I think the girls are going to be in serious trouble financially. Many of us, myself included, have lost jobs and are now stuck at home with the wife and no way to get out to "party". I've been able to sneak out a couple times but that's likely to change for the worse. The point is, I believe OUR availability is going to be seriously diminished which is going to force them to lower prices--simple supply and demand.
So what can they do to maintain business or, hopefully, grow it? In my opinion, not much. What they should have been doing all along is handling their business more professionally. Some of them do but as we all know, most of them don't. They ghost us, the don't respond timely, they're drugged out when we arrive, some don't bathe regularly, they provide lousy service and expect us to accept it. The list goes on and on. There are many girls I've met that I truly like but there are just as many that don't know the first damn thing about building a "relationship", and I mean a business relationship, not a love interest.
The way I see it, the girls that have treated us well will continue to see their business hold steady, at least as much as possible in these weird times. The ones that have taken us for granted are going to have a difficult time.
LurkinGround
04-03-20, 18:04
You are a small minded human. Profiting off my name I would never work for you again. You are holding on to anything you possibly can thinking I would come back. Go ahead send people to my hub I'm making ad revenue. Keeping my pictures on your site just to spite me. You're a creepy stalker, you will never look good in any situation you put yourself in.Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.
TechSticles
04-03-20, 18:32
Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knowsWell, to be fair, your reviews on TER spend quite a bit of time sucking dick and getting fucked by trannies. Just saying. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not a huge step, right?
TechSticles
04-03-20, 18:38
Before long I think the girls are going to be in serious trouble financially. Many of us, myself included, have lost jobs and are now stuck at home with the wife and no way to get out to "party". I've been able to sneak out a couple times but that's likely to change for the worse. The point is, I believe OUR availability is going to be seriously diminished which is going to force them to lower prices--simple supply and demand.
So what can they do to maintain business or, hopefully, grow it? In my opinion, not much. What they should have been doing all along is handling their business more professionally. Some of them do but as we all know, most of them don't. They ghost us, the don't respond timely, they're drugged out when we arrive, some don't bathe regularly, they provide lousy service and expect us to accept it. The list goes on and on. There are many girls I've met that I truly like but there are just as many that don't know the first damn thing about building a "relationship", and I mean a business relationship, not a love interest.
The way I see it, the girls that have treated us well will continue to see their business hold steady, at least as much as possible in these weird times. The ones that have taken us for granted are going to have a difficult time.I think they already are in trouble. That $1200 only shows up for tax payers, and most of them don't file TBH. I'm fortunate. I haven't been going to an office for the last decade, so this is all just "normal" for me. There's still some girls out there that are regular based and can still hunker down with. But it's a bad idea to be banging heroin addicts that are essentially revolving doors right now. JMHO.
WanderingAbout
04-03-20, 19:13
The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?The idea of adding more time for the same amount of money is a good one. May save a client or two. Unfortunately, it's not going to change the direction the wind is blowing.
During a recession, guys will find money under the car seat if necessary to see a girl.
During a recession with a chance of a miserable death from Covid-19 added in and who cares what's under the car seat. Not going to risk dying.
Visit a sex worker and you know she is seeing many guys. You can take precautions to prevent catching something nasty. Can get meds to cure or prolong life.
Visit a sex worker now you have no idea who she has seen. Are her previous clients Covid free or carriers? Does she have it? Did she breath on you? Kiss you? How is your luck at Russian roulette?
You get Covid you die. Doesn't matter what the girl says or does to attract clients these days that dance with death doesn't change for her or her clients.
JustACustomer
04-03-20, 21:44
Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.Not repeat? That seems like a crazy notion. She is a great provider.
Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.What's up with the site. Has Steve closed up shop? God I hope not.
I was chatting with a provider who asked an interesting question. Acknowledging that times are hard and a lot of people don't have the disposable income they once did, how can she entice clients without herself losing out by lowering prices. She does have a point. Just like everyone, she also has bills that need to be paid.
I suggested that instead of taking less money, to ADD time. Instead of (for example only) charging $200 for an hour, still charge $200 but for 75 minutes or 90 minutes. She is asking about getting more clients so I believe I can safely assume that she doesn't have the current client base to schedule back-to-back-to-back clients; she has downtime. Not many of us can still go longer than an hour, have multiple pops within that hour, get to position 85 of the Kama Sutra without doing physical therapy afterwards, etc. , but offering some extra time to catch one's breath between pops could provide some incentive in these challenging times. (I am only stating my suggestion, but I'm sure someone will take this as a challenge to a debate over the merits of this idea. It's not open for debate.).
The point of this post is to ask, does anyone have any other ideas on how to entice clients these days, other than lower rates, that I could pass along?If the situation was exactly the opposite, say providers left the field for another opportunity in mass, would the remaining providers have a qualm with raising rates?
Within a few months, unemployment is projected to be at over 10%. Deflation is already occurring and will only accelerate. Whatever money that I have now will only be worth more in the future and it would be wise to hold on to it or I should save if the emergency affects me. If someone wants me to spend on non-necessitates, then I see no reason to not want a discount for money that will increase in spending value or to justify depleting my emergency fund.
Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.Eh to each their own, my "higher prices" provide me the luxury to stay home till need be while you are already pondering your future endeavors.
Employee? Where is my W-2?
If the situation was exactly the opposite, say providers left the field for another opportunity in mass, would the remaining providers have a qualm with raising rates?
Within a few months, unemployment is projected to be at over 10%. Deflation is already occurring and will only accelerate. Whatever money that I have now will only be worth more in the future and it would be wise to hold on to it or I should save if the emergency affects me. If someone wants me to spend on non-necessitates, then I see no reason to not want a discount for money that will increase in spending value or to justify depleting my emergency fund.And just like that, the conversation was shifted from, "Let's help each other out in these tough times. ", to "Me, me me! I'm the only one that matters so I better get more for less. ".
Let's steer this conversation back to trying to be helpful.
CincyHobbist
04-04-20, 01:11
If the situation was exactly the opposite, say providers left the field for another opportunity in mass, would the remaining providers have a qualm with raising rates?
Within a few months, unemployment is projected to be at over 10%. Deflation is already occurring and will only accelerate. Whatever money that I have now will only be worth more in the future and it would be wise to hold on to it or I should save if the emergency affects me. If someone wants me to spend on non-necessitates, then I see no reason to not want a discount for money that will increase in spending value or to justify depleting my emergency fund.Deflation in the petroleum market is due to Russia and the Saudis pumping the market with way to much supply atm! Everyone is going to do a 10-20% cut in daily production. So prices will go back up to $60. In a few months when everyone goes back to work! Wait until thre is hyper inflation if things keep going the way they are! If you are old enough to remember the late 70's to early 80's then you will know what I am talking about!
Alphabet2611
04-04-20, 02:32
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.I am surprised you don't think that I think her and brooke are the best in Cincinnati.
Personally, I have had nothing but good dealings with Steve myself. I've only dealt with him as a customer though, not an employee like you were...not that I could ever see myself sucking dick for a living, but who knows, if the coronavirus crap goes on a couple months longer, I may have to!!
You are nothing more to him than one in a very long line of providers that he has dealt with over the years. They come and they go, we cum and we go.
I saw you once while you were with Steve and while your BBJ was commendable, I never repeated as I felt the rest of you was not on par with your higher prices.There's a reason EE can't keep any girls for any length of time. They figure him out real fast.
You get Covid you die. Doesn't matter what the girl says or does to attract clients these days that dance with death doesn't change for her or her clients.People like you are fueling this ridiculous hysteria around C-19. No, if you get Covid you most likely will not even know that you have it. If you're in a risk group then yes there is a chance that you will die. A chance not a certainty. Covid is not ebola.
These are the most recent numbers for the worldwide distribution of deaths due to corona.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
If you are under 40 with no underlying conditions your chance of survival is 99.8 percent if you're over 40 then it jumps to the astonishingly poor rate of 99.6%.
These numbers are based on confirmed cases only with the horribly inadequate testing that has been done. Once real testing starts the morbidity rate (people who have it) is going to skyrocket, and the mortality rate (percent of people who die from it that have it) is going to drop like a fucking rock. Something to the tune of. 000 something mortality rate. Right now, at this moment when expressed as a percentage the total number of deaths from corona is 0. 0008% of the world population. This is not a Jerry Bruckheimer movie, humanity is not engaged in a desperate fight for it's survival.
Why couldn't corona have aggressively targeted stupid people instead of grandmas and grandpas.
Why couldn't corona have aggressively targeted stupid people instead of grandmas and grandpas.Most of the time those two groups are one and the same. At least based on my assessment of Boomers in the past 20 years.
Deflation in the petroleum market is due to Russia and the Saudis pumping the market with way to much supply atm! Everyone is going to do a 10-20% cut in daily production. So prices will go back up to $60. In a few months when everyone goes back to work! Wait until thre is hyper inflation if things keep going the way they are! If you are old enough to remember the late 70's to early 80's then you will know what I am talking about!I never referenced oil prices as the cause for all deflation. Deflation also occurred in the 2008 recession as well. With this many people losing their jobs, deflation will occur. Estimates from the CBO have us at 10% unemployment at the end of the year. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html
I never referenced oil prices as the cause for all deflation. Deflation also occurred in the 2008 recession as well. With this many people losing their jobs, deflation will occur. Estimates from the CBO have us at 10% unemployment at the end of the year. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.htmlI have had serious deflation problems since about 2010. Pills help sometimes. I need inflation.
LurkinGround
04-04-20, 16:48
Eh to each their own, my "higher prices" provide me the luxury to stay home till need be while you are already pondering your future endeavors.
Employee? Where is my W-2?Ok, business associate then, LOL.
And sweetie, I am fine financially, no pondering future endeavors, I'm next in line to run a half billion dollar a year company.
Even though this is the Octagon, didn't mean to flame you, you were fine. Personally, I didn't see anything that justified the higher rates compared to some of his other girls. I'm sure you have your loyal following and I'm happy for you. There is a reason they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream as the ole saying goes, best of luck to you.
LurkinGround
04-04-20, 16:54
I am surprised you don't think that I think her and brooke are the best in Cincinnati.Now Brooke, I have repeated with. Even though she was a bit thicker than I prefer and I am not really a big boob guy, I found her slight southern drawl and face to be very appealing. Her BBBJCIM was outstanding as well.
I have been dealing with EE for years and "most" of the ones I have seen were great, Galina and Cherry, ATF material. Some, I can remember their names, a real tall one with a great rack, 2-3 years ago was another.
LurkinGround
04-04-20, 17:05
There's a reason EE can't keep any girls for any length of time. They figure him out real fast.I have met with a couple that said he was good to deal with and a couple that didn't have nice things to day, mainly that he scheduled "clients" too close together. I really don't know all that much about the situation, I was told he pays for half the room rate, and takes a cut of the donation. He deals with the scheduling and they deal with the "other part" of the transaction. Not white knighting here but I would think there are 2 sides to every story. I've never had an issue with him or any of his girls. Always prompt, returns text quickly, never ghosted, etc. There have been a few that have stayed with him for quite awhile BTW. Others come and go, I chalk up a lot of that to the normal eb and flow in that line of work. There arent many that stay doing it for long. I would imagine its a bit draining both mentally and physically on these girls, never knowing who is showing up, will they be abusive, rip them off, etc. I am always on edge meeting someone for the 1st time, I could imagine they feel the same, only going through it multiple times per day. Has to wear them down after a while.
CincyHobbist
04-04-20, 19:06
I never referenced oil prices as the cause for all deflation. Deflation also occurred in the 2008 recession as well. With this many people losing their jobs, deflation will occur. Estimates from the CBO have us at 10% unemployment at the end of the year. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.htmlOil Prices usually are an indicator of what is to come! Right now the US is at the mercy of the Chinese! We allowed to much manufacturing and supply lines to be moved over seas for larger profits! 3 M is a prime example of what I am talking about. They only have 1 plant in the USA and 2 over seas. What they produce domestically and overseas has not been coming into the USA market. Also they have raised the prices on their PAPR systemsfor an example from around $600 to a minimum of $ 1300.8 years ago you could buy the same system for $300. The newer systems are also back ordered for a minimum 8 months.
Let us also look at the fact that the fed is printing money like we have it! That devalues the currency and the amount of buying power that a $1 has. That is inflation! So it takes more $ to buy the same thing! Have you looked at the beef market? Prices went up almost a $1 a lb 2 weeks ago. Most grocery stores and butcher markets are not getting their normal supply from the suppliers. So demand for meat, less of it means higher prices.
I wish there would be deflation, that way I could get gas for under. 75 cents, Marlboros for. 50 cents a pack. Oh wait, that means my hourly wage would have to go from $30 plus an hour back to $8 an hour.
Oil Prices usually are an indicator of what is to come! Right now the US is at the mercy of the Chinese! We allowed to much manufacturing and supply lines to be moved over seas for larger profits! 3 M is a prime example of what I am talking about. They only have 1 plant in the USA and 2 over seas. What they produce domestically and overseas has not been coming into the USA market. Also they have raised the prices on their PAPR systemsfor an example from around $600 to a minimum of $ 1300.8 years ago you could buy the same system for $300. The newer systems are also back ordered for a minimum 8 months.
Let us also look at the fact that the fed is printing money like we have it! That devalues the currency and the amount of buying power that a $1 has. That is inflation! So it takes more $ to buy the same thing! Have you looked at the beef market? Prices went up almost a $1 a lb 2 weeks ago. Most grocery stores and butcher markets are not getting their normal supply from the suppliers. So demand for meat, less of it means higher prices.
I wish there would be deflation, that way I could get gas for under. 75 cents, Marlboros for. 50 cents a pack. Oh wait, that means my hourly wage would have to go from $30 plus an hour back to $8 an hour.That's all anecdotal speculation. Not every product will go down in price during a pandemic but overall demand will decrease. The unemployed do not usually increase their spending. The Federal Reserve cut its benchmark interest rate to 0% and that is not something that is down if inflation is suspected. Once the rate goes to zero you really can't go lower, which is why the current stimulus involves literally giving people money to spend. Once again, not action that occurs if inflation is threat.
The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that spending on food services, arts and accommodations would temporarily decline by about 80% during a major pandemic. Spending on public transportation would drop by 67%. When the populations unemployment increases rapidly demand diminishes, inflation is not the outcome.
CincyHobbist
04-05-20, 00:49
That's all anecdotal speculation. Not every product will go down in price during a pandemic but overall demand will decrease. The unemployed do not usually increase their spending. The Federal Reserve cut its benchmark interest rate to 0% and that is not something that is down if inflation is suspected. Once the rate goes to zero you really can't go lower, which is why the current stimulus involves literally giving people money to spend. Once again, not action that occurs if inflation is threat.
The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that spending on food services, arts and accommodations would temporarily decline by about 80% during a major pandemic. Spending on public transportation would drop by 67%. When the populations unemployment increases rapidly demand diminishes, inflation is not the outcome.Demand for basic needs like rent / mortgage, utilities, food, insurance etc. Do not change. However the comforts or wants in life should decrease. Food for an example will usually go up in prices. As I stated earlier beef prices are climbing and supply seems to be diminishing. After my earlier post, I read two articles about the dairy industry (co ops) telling the dairy farmers to dump the milk they are collecting due to issues getting it to market. Even though demand is high, the supply is decreasing. That will result in higher prices in the future, which is inflation.
As far as interest rates, they have been low for how many years now? About 7 years or so, well before Trump took office. When the fed keeps dropping interest rates until it is 0% that is not a good thing either. It gives no incentive to folks to save money. It also props up a weak economy and a heavy debited Government. One could argue that the cash money that is being handed out is nothing more then a grab for votes for both parties! I would rather have the economy opened back up and welfare / snap / ebt benefit reform, along with getting the deficit almost to $0.
What is your take on the stock market? IS it or was it over inflated? Another article I just read stated it could go back to around 15 k for the first time in years. We haven't ween that in how many years?
John HandCock
04-05-20, 09:02
People like you are fueling this ridiculous hysteria around C-19. No, if you get Covid you most likely will not even know that you have it. If you're in a risk group then yes there is a chance that you will die. A chance not a certainty. Covid is not ebola.
These are the most recent numbers for the worldwide distribution of deaths due to corona.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
If you are under 40 with no underlying conditions your chance of survival is 99.8 percent if you're over 40 then it jumps to the astonishingly poor rate of 99.6%.
These numbers are based on confirmed cases only with the horribly inadequate testing that has been done. Once real testing starts the morbidity rate (people who have it) is going to skyrocket, and the mortality rate (percent of people who die from it that have it) is going to drop like a fucking rock. Something to the tune of. 000 something mortality rate. Right now, at this moment when expressed as a percentage the total number of deaths from corona is 0. 0008% of the world population. This is not a Jerry Bruckheimer movie, humanity is not engaged in a desperate fight for it's survival.
Why couldn't corona have aggressively targeted stupid people instead of grandmas and grandpas.Early on the death rate was estimated at 1% or less. This won't even thin the herd.
JustACustomer
04-05-20, 10:02
I have had serious deflation problems since about 2010. Pills help sometimes. I need inflation.Be careful! I hear those pills can cause HYPER-inflation! LOL.
Now Brooke, I have repeated with. Even though she was a bit thicker than I prefer and I am not really a big boob guy, I found her slight southern drawl and face to be very appealing. Her BBBJCIM was outstanding as well.
I have been dealing with EE for years and "most" of the ones I have seen were great, Galina and Cherry, ATF material. Some, I can remember their names, a real tall one with a great rack, 2-3 years ago was another.Juliette! She was awesome and I saw her a many times. I didn't know she did FS until out last visit together. Her DUI really set her back. Oh good times.
MontgomeryMm67
04-05-20, 11:25
I agree with this post quite a bit. There are two sides to every story. Steve at EE has always treated me well, been prompt to respond, sent pics if a provider said not have any in his site etc. I have providers I like thru EE and some I didn't. It seems the girls who he schedule for almost always thi k they can go it alone after a bit and I am 100% sure many guys the see tell them if you cut Steve out you could be so much better. I don't know the back story about the Ryann / Ee breakup and I don't care. I do t need to see dirty laundry aired here because that's between them. I will say Steve is posting a few updates on twitter and still responds to texts. He told me he was working on a new site and it would be a few days and that was early this past week. That's my two cents.
Stay thirsty my friends.
I have met with a couple that said he was good to deal with and a couple that didn't have nice things to day, mainly that he scheduled "clients" too close together. I really don't know all that much about the situation, I was told he pays for half the room rate, and takes a cut of the donation. He deals with the scheduling and they deal with the "other part" of the transaction. Not white knighting here but I would think there are 2 sides to every story. I've never had an issue with him or any of his girls. Always prompt, returns text quickly, never ghosted, etc. There have been a few that have stayed with him for quite awhile BTW. Others come and go, I chalk up a lot of that to the normal eb and flow in that line of work. There arent many that stay doing it for long. I would imagine its a bit draining both mentally and physically on these girls, never knowing who is showing up, will they be abusive, rip them off, etc. I am always on edge meeting someone for the 1st time, I could imagine they feel the same, only going through it multiple times per day. Has to wear them down after a while.
NothingToDo
04-05-20, 11:34
Juliette! She was awesome and I saw her a many times. I didn't know she did FS until out last visit together. Her DUI really set her back. Oh good times.I was just thinking of Juliette the other day. Wonder what happened to her. She never opened up to me about her personal life, but she knew I was in love with her and treated me well.
Alaska Tom
04-05-20, 12:20
I've noticed a big influx of new providers on the ad site. Many ads seem to be copied from escort alligator. Just curious as to why. I.
Aaska Tom.
I was just thinking of Juliette the other day. Wonder what happened to her. She never opened up to me about her personal life, but she knew I was in love with her and treated me well.She was amazing. Those tits, those legs, that mouth. Damn she needs to come back. Others like jennevencia or something like that and Andee have been my favorites. Andee had that wholesome college athletics body was one of the best.
Steve has had some amazing ladies through the years. I would need a calculator to figure out how many appointments I have scheduled through Steve and I have only had one bad one which he fixed immediately.
She was amazing. Those tits, those legs, that mouth. Damn she needs to come back. Others like jennevencia or something like that and Andee have been my favorites. Andee had that wholesome college athletics body was one of the best.
Steve has had some amazing ladies through the years. I would need a calculator to figure out how many appointments I have scheduled through Steve and I have only had one bad one which he fixed immediately.Marianne, another of Steve's was a gorgeous lady.
People like you are fueling this ridiculous hysteria around C-19. No, if you get Covid you most likely will not even know that you have it. If you're in a risk group then yes there is a chance that you will die. A chance not a certainty. Covid is not ebola.
These are the most recent numbers for the worldwide distribution of deaths due to corona.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
If you are under 40 with no underlying conditions your chance of survival is 99.8 percent if you're over 40 then it jumps to the astonishingly poor rate of 99.6%.
These numbers are based on confirmed cases only with the horribly inadequate testing that has been done. Once real testing starts the morbidity rate (people who have it) is going to skyrocket, and the mortality rate (percent of people who die from it that have it) is going to drop like a fucking rock. Something to the tune of. 000 something mortality rate. Right now, at this moment when expressed as a percentage the total number of deaths from corona is 0. 0008% of the world population. This is not a Jerry Bruckheimer movie, humanity is not engaged in a desperate fight for it's survival.
Why couldn't corona have aggressively targeted stupid people instead of grandmas and grandpas.And statistically the 25 year old provider who theoretically gave me COVID 19 because she can't quit working will get a respirator before my old ass does should the hospitals be overwhelmed. No one knows what the percentages are of people who contract it end up in the hospital but right now in real time if you end up in the ICU in NYC you have a 20% chance of walking out alive. And there is no discrimination. Any way anyone wants to spin it it's one hellava lot deadlier than the flu. And I really don't understand how hard it is to go without pussy for 2-3 months. Especially if it means you don't pass it on to Mom and Dad or the Grandparents. It's a pandemic. It's a novel virus with no vaccine or cure available. There is absolutely no harm for anyone taking extreme precautions for 2-3 months.
Was it only my imagination, but wasn't there used to be a Main Forum thread (not in Ohio, but the main Forum page) that dealt with discussions specifically about porn stars that do escorting on the side? I could have sworn it was on USSG; or maybe it was on the now defunct "large canine" site. Anyone remember that?
WhereDreamsGo
04-07-20, 15:15
No, it's probably not going to kill you, even if you're over 70, though at that point the death rate may be well into the teens percentage wise at that age group. And it's a little fickle about exactly who it decides to kill.
Iit's far more dangerous than any STD out there. The infection rate in the USA overall and maybe even Ohio is probably higher than chlamydia, the most common STD, at this point, and will be much higher within a week to a few weeks. There's no STD that's going to kill you at this point, most likely, even HIV, given the treatments, and it's really hard for an uncircumcised male to get HIV even from unprotected sex with an infected woman. COVID-19, however, you walk into the room with the woman and there's a good chance you'll get it. You have sex with her and you almost certainly will. Even if the likely death rate for the general population is under 1%, or even under 0. 5%, which I think it is, it's still way higher than from any STD. And there's no protection you can use that's going to work, unless maybe anyone has a haz-mat suit with a zipper fly, which I still think would take the fun out of it.
And statistically the 25 year old provider who theoretically gave me COVID 19 because she can't quit working will get a respirator before my old ass does should the hospitals be overwhelmed. No one knows what the percentages are of people who contract it end up in the hospital but right now in real time if you end up in the ICU in NYC you have a 20% chance of walking out alive. And there is no discrimination. Any way anyone wants to spin it it's one hellava lot deadlier than the flu. And I really don't understand how hard it is to go without pussy for 2-3 months. Especially if it means you don't pass it on to Mom and Dad or the Grandparents. It's a pandemic. It's a novel virus with no vaccine or cure available. There is absolutely no harm for anyone taking extreme precautions for 2-3 months.The 25 year old won't need a respirator and if my ass was old I wouldn't even talk to anybody these days. Same if I had asthma, or was obese, or was in any of the other risk groups.
I'm not, I don't smoke, I hit the gym 5 times a week, if I caught it I would most likely be in the 94% in my age group who survive. Not does the 25 year old provider. No harm? Tell that to the 65 year old newly retired person who can no longer enter the work force and just lost 45% of their retirement portfolio. Tell that to the 25 year old bartender that is about to be homeless and lose whatever insurance coverage he had next year during flu season.
No harm. 250,000 people a year died in the US last year as a direct result of poverty, tell the extra 100 K who die next year that they are not being harmed.
WanderingAbout
04-07-20, 21:22
IF Covid-19 Stats are of interest to you here are two websites aggregating the pandemics related info.
https://ncov2019.live/
And something similar from Johns Hopkins.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
IF Covid-19 Stats are of interest to you here are two websites aggregating the pandemics related info.
https://ncov2019.live/
And something similar from Johns Hopkins.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.htmlThanks. Though if anyone really believes that China only had 82-83000 cases and only 3000+ deaths up to now, they are smoking some quality shit.
Katmandu6999
04-08-20, 15:38
Was it only my imagination, but wasn't there used to be a Main Forum thread (not in Ohio, but the main Forum page) that dealt with discussions specifically about porn stars that do escorting on the side? I could have sworn it was on USSG; or maybe it was on the now defunct "large canine" site. Anyone remember that?Was on Indys. I remember it.
TechSticles
04-08-20, 16:26
Was it only my imagination, but wasn't there used to be a Main Forum thread (not in Ohio, but the main Forum page) that dealt with discussions specifically about porn stars that do escorting on the side? I could have sworn it was on USSG; or maybe it was on the now defunct "large canine" site. Anyone remember that?TER had a huge forum along those lines. I'm still a "VIP" member, but the forums there went to shit after the shutdown.
So, other than masturbating or sex with someone you've been quarantined with for 2 weeks.
what's the safest form of sex?
I am thinking, "A double condom glory hole. You have on a condom, and she wears a female condom. ".
Discuss.
WanderingAbout
04-09-20, 19:33
With that kind of ding dong hazmat protection going on be sure there is a window above the glory hole you can look through. (1) to confirm its a her on the other side of the wall and you didn't get bait and switched. (2) that she isn't using a lubed up pocket pussy on you cause that double bagging of bilbo may make it hard to tell the real from the fake vjay.
So, other than masturbating or sex with someone you've been quarantined with for 2 weeks.
what's the safest form of sex?
I am thinking, "A double condom glory hole. You have on a condom, and she wears a female condom. ".
Discuss.
BigGusDickUs55
04-09-20, 19:42
It could be a prison pussy. A white sock filled with peanut butter and a dog to lick the peanut butter off for clean up after. Smooth and creamy or crunchy?
With that kind of ding dong hazmat protection going on be sure there is a window above the glory hole you can look through. (1) to confirm its a her on the other side of the wall and you didn't get bait and switched. (2) that she isn't using a lubed up pocket pussy on you cause that double bagging of bilbo may make it hard to tell the real from the fake vjay.
I have been with a few providers and I have not had an issue but for those who are not so well reviewed should I carry?
John HandCock
04-10-20, 21:24
I have been with a few providers and I have not had an issue but for those who are not so well reviewed should I carry?Your going to get a bunch of different answers on this so here's mine. If you can't use it then leave it in the car. Someone doped up don't care and dare you to shoot him. If you pull it then be sure you can use it. If not the right handler, pimp, or boyfriend will take it away from you. If you do use it then you have the fallout of legal system to deal with whether you was right or wrong. If that's worth whatever little cash you should have on ya again that's up to you. Again you got to know your limitations and weigh that with the consequences of your actions.
I have been with a few providers and I have not had an issue but for those who are not so well reviewed should I carry?It all depends on what you mean by, "not so well reviewed". If it means she has reviews but they are not flattering, then no. If it means that she does not have many or any reviews, sure, someone has to see her and review her. But as always, watch your six and do not pay before the deed. Always after.
TheStang66
04-11-20, 00:43
So, other than masturbating or sex with someone you've been quarantined with for 2 weeks.
what's the safest form of sex?
I am thinking, "A double condom glory hole. You have on a condom, and she wears a female condom. ".
Discuss.Either stick with providers you trust or stock up on ice for some really cold showers. But I'm a handsy guy so I need something I can touch.
Dillsborodave
04-11-20, 01:09
I have been with a few providers and I have not had an issue but for those who are not so well reviewed should I carry?A condom? YES.
I have been with a few providers and I have not had an issue but for those who are not so well reviewed should I carry?If you can legally carry then hell yes. I always do when I go to Ohio. Just common sense. I value my life and those around me. PB.
Alaska Tom
04-11-20, 06:45
Thanks. Though if anyone really believes that China only had 82-83000 cases and only 3000+ deaths up to now, they are smoking some quality shit.Remember that every word out of a commie mouth is going to be a lie.
Alaska Tom.
Muncher2323
04-11-20, 08:05
Remember that every word out of a commie mouth is going to be a lie.
Alaska Tom.You can expect the same out of a capitalist if it'll make him a buck.
If you can legally carry then hell yes. I always do when I go to Ohio. Just common sense. I value my life and those around me. PB.Since I'm not allowed to carry, I do have mace and a pocket knife on me when I visit for a session.
ILikeWatch
04-11-20, 20:13
If you can legally carry then hell yes. I always do when I go to Ohio. Just common sense. I value my life and those around me. PB.I've never been comfortable with not having my carry in my control. Do you keep it strapped on while you do the deed?
I've never been comfortable with not having my carry in my control. Do you keep it strapped on while you do the deed?Thanks for being responsible.
Remember that every word out of a commie mouth is going to be a lie.
Alaska Tom.Whatever you think I'm pretty sure trump is not a commie.
O'Dell Owens wrote in the Enquirer recently that handshakes are dead. I don't think so. I think that, in a year or so, handshakes will come back. In the meantime, as we see from other forums here, sex is still going on. I have got a couple of messages from providers whom I have contacted in the recent past. I am sure that their business is suffering, but, in my regular life, I am not even shaking hands now. I am certainly not going to have sex with a professional provider. The AMPs are closed. I think that they will come back eventually, because the demand for the service is permanent. In the meantime, I wonder what has happened to all the massage girls? Are they working UTR? (I doubt it, or I would have heard something, either on this board or from them.) Have they moved somewhere where the lockdown is not so complete? (Have to look at forums in Texas or wherever) Are they working in other fields? (I doubt it, because unemployment is high, and they generally have limited English.) Have they gone back to Asia? I may be finished. I didn't take up the hobby until midlife, and I am sort of old now to be mongering. That is another reason why I am being extra careful now. By the time that things settle down, it may be too late for me.
Hillbilly Bob
04-12-20, 14:24
I have been with a few providers and I have not had an issue but for those who are not so well reviewed should I carry?Never leave home without it. Doesn't matter if its a provider of to get gas mine is on me at all times Only exception is if I go into a bar an going to have a drink it is in the truck.
Dillsborodave
04-12-20, 14:27
O'Dell Owens wrote in the Enquirer recently that handshakes are dead. I don't think so. I think that, in a year or so, handshakes will come back. In the meantime, as we see from other forums here, sex is still going on. I have got a couple of messages from providers whom I have contacted in the recent past. I am sure that their business is suffering, but, in my regular life, I am not even shaking hands now. I am certainly not going to have sex with a professional provider. The AMPs are closed. I think that they will come back eventually, because the demand for the service is permanent. In the meantime, I wonder what has happened to all the massage girls? Are they working UTR? (I doubt it, or I would have heard something, either on this board or from them.) Have they moved somewhere where the lockdown is not so complete? (Have to look at forums in Texas or wherever) Are they working in other fields? (I doubt it, because unemployment is high, and they generally have limited English.) Have they gone back to Asia? I may be finished. I didn't take up the hobby until midlife, and I am sort of old now to be mongering. That is another reason why I am being extra careful now. By the time that things settle down, it may be too late for me.As long as your cock still gets hard its never too late for you.
Whatever you think I'm pretty sure trump is not a commie.But he will definitely still consort with them since they are the only ones left that will lend his thieving *ss money.
MarblesKyle
04-13-20, 03:21
I was chatting with a provider who asked an interesting question. Acknowledging that times are hard and a lot of people don't have the disposable income they once did, how can she entice clients without herself losing out by lowering prices. She does have a point. Just like everyone, she also has bills that need to be paid.
I suggested that instead of taking less money, to ADD time. Everyone is making sacrifices right now. Unfortunately for providers, it is just as much of a risk to the monger to do business with them so they are going to have to take risks to stay working AND see decreased clientele.
They are no different than the millions of people forced to make tough decisions in unprecedented times. As a Cincy monger, there are very few local providers that could draw me out of quarantine for a visit and even then I'd have to be enticed by some better pricing. There's too much risk involved, beyond just the virus. More people are in their homes looking out their windows, SOs are at home and bored wondering where hubby is, LEO's have less on their plate, many mongers schedules are tighter to where they can't break free for an hour, etc.
This is just an unfortunate time to do business, for pretty much everyone. Someone mentioned that the great providers will be fine, and I think that is spot on. The ones who suck will go under just like sh*tty businesses will go under. Hell, Brookee could drop back into town and charge 500/ hr and I bet she'd have a full slate of clients. It's supply and demand.
Hopefully the provider you were talking to is good enough to weather the storm. Let's face it, offering more time or more on their menu for the same price is basically lowering their price. It's time or services they should be charging more for, but aren't. It may work on bringing in clients but it is what it is. They are working cheaper. You can either lower prices and try to get more volume, or charge the same and see significantly less business.
Tickle Jay
04-13-20, 04:41
Remember that every word out of a commie mouth is going to be a lie.
Alaska Tom.Learn the difference between Communism and Fascism. He is a fascist.
Hillbilly Bob
04-13-20, 07:27
But he will definitely still consort with them since they are the only ones left that will lend his thieving *ss money.Since you think so little of our president you sending your Send me a list check back.
Willow1535
04-13-20, 11:00
Is there anyone on the board actually eligible to receive a check?
Since you think so little of our president you sending your Send me a list check back.
Since you think so little of our president you sending your Send me a list check back.The funds for the check was allocated by a bill that started in Congress (under Nancy Pelosi), passed by the Senate with a near majority (under Mitch McConnel), and signed by the President. Let's be clear, the money isn't from Trump. It's from other taxpayers. Until I actually see him sign a check drawn on his personal account (or even that of Trump Inc.), it's not from Trump. The power of the purse lies with Congress; not the Senate, and definitely not the President.
TechSticles
04-13-20, 12:22
Since you think so little of our president you sending your Send me a list check back.HB, you don't think the dipshit president is writing those checks personally do you?
Is there anyone on the board actually eligible to receive a check?I'm sure there are many on here that are eligible.
Dillsborodave
04-13-20, 18:22
Is there anyone on the board actually eligible to receive a check?I think I am eligible. I will keep everyone updated because if I do receive a check I'm sure some of it will go to the hobby.
Is there anyone on the board actually eligible to receive a check?And I want to thank each and everyone of you for contributing to my check.
Stay safe. MN.
Is there anyone on the board actually eligible to receive a check?I won't get the whole $1200. That money is reduced by $5 for every $100 you make over $75 k. (so, $1150 if you make $76 k, $1100 for $77 k, etc.). Anyone $99 k or over gets zero.
(these are single, no kids figures. Different formulas is applied for single with kids and couples).
LurkinGround
04-13-20, 21:42
I won't get the whole $1200. That money is reduced by $5 for every $100 you make over $75 k. (so, $1150 if you make $76 k, $1100 for $77 k, etc.). Anyone $99 k or over gets zero.
(these are single, no kids figures. Different formulas is applied for single with kids and couples).The figure of $75 K is based on "adjusted" gross income, for a couple, AGI would be $150 K or less. You could make 100 K, your spouse $49.9 K and you would still get $1200 each, that is, if you file joint.
The real scam is kids over 16, you do not get $500 for them at all. I always thought it was a crock of shit that when your kid turns 17, you lose the child tax credit. My youngest is now 19, full time college student (or was anyway, LOL). No job and I support him 100%. He gets nothing and neither do I.
I did a bit of research a few weeks ago. The payment is based on 2019 return, if you have yet to file, they go back to 2018. If you claim, say in my case, my kid as a dependent, they are not eligible for the stimulus payment. Therefore, I filed my 2019 taxes 2 weeks ago and DID NOT claim him as a dependent.
Then, I filed a tax return on his behalf showing zero income after doing my research. No W2, no income and the only thing I was prompted to enter was his student loan total. At the end before hitting submit, it said, your federal tax return is $1,000. Not sure why, maybe that is the standard tax credit? Then, since he filed, they will use that for the stimulus check.
I found all this info be reading quite a few articles and finalizing everything at IRS. Gov website. Hope it may help some of you out there.
Since you think so little of our president you sending your Send me a list check back.I don't hate your president. I hate the f'ing ignorant HILLBILLY pieces of sh*t that voted a narcissist sociopath woman hating lying reality show"star" thief into to the single most important job on the planet. I used to respect you. Piss off scum. Anything you have to offer means ZERO.
LurkinGround
04-14-20, 05:04
I don't hate your president. I hate the f'ing ignorant HILLBILLY pieces of sh*t that voted a narcissist sociopath woman hating lying reality show"star" thief into to the single most important job on the planet. I used to respect you. Piss off scum. Anything you have to offer means ZERO.Just goes to show how awful his opponent was!
Remember when people were saying we better get used to saying Madame President?? LOL.
He actually wanted HIS signature to be on the checks!
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-wants-his-signature-to-appear-on-coronavirus-stimulus-checks-2020-03-28
Remember the "Trump coronavirus instructions" you got in the mail?
Narcissism 101- "I take all the credit. You take all the blame".
As Jim Jaimes said, the scary part is just how many Americans are such stupid authoritarian sheep that they actually see him as a "leader". The lead lemming, maybe.
The good dr.
Just goes to show how awful his opponent was!
Remember when people were saying we better get used to saying Madame President?? LOL.I did not vote FOR Trump. My vote was against Clinton. What a lying pos she was and still is.
Just goes to show how awful his opponent was!
Remember when people were saying we better get used to saying Madame President?? LOLRemember how his opponent got 3 million more votes than he did?
Muncher2323
04-14-20, 08:23
Just goes to show how awful his opponent was!
Remember when people were saying we better get used to saying Madame President?? LOL.Honestly, and this just goes to show the presidential elections are more of a popularity contest than they are issue-oriented, Clinton wasn't that bad as far as her resumè went. Hell, it was actually kind of stellar. But she was so far from likable and relatable it was the real problem with her, well that and the DNC being a collective group of incompetence.
MassageFreak
04-14-20, 08:48
I am not eligible because I made way to much money. But it's so cool people that don't even file get one. At least give me some of the vast amount I paid in last year.
Is there anyone on the board actually eligible to receive a check?.
Hillbilly Bob
04-14-20, 09:03
I don't hate your president. I hate the f'ing ignorant HILLBILLY pieces of sh*t that voted a narcissist sociopath woman hating lying reality show"star" thief into to the single most important job on the planet. I used to respect you. Piss off scum. Anything you have to offer means ZERO.Your opinion of me doesn't affect me one bit. I will still report what the provider bring to the table. Take it or leave it. Typical left attitude if we don't drink your Kool Aid we are wrong.
I don't hate your president. I hate the f'ing ignorant HILLBILLY pieces of sh*t that voted a narcissist sociopath woman hating lying reality show"star" thief into to the single most important job on the planet. I used to respect you. Piss off scum. Anything you have to offer means ZERO.Hillbilly pieces of shit? Thanks for that. I'm neither a hillbilly or a piece of shit. Given the choices he was the lesser of 2 evils.
Narcissistic? Maybe. But what successful businessman or salesman isn't, so some extent.
Sociopath? Doubtful.
Woman hating? Again, highly doubtful.
Lying? Who in politics doesn't lie? Neither hear nor there.
Reality show star? Check.
Thief? Well, debateable at best.
So basically because you don't care for him he's bad. Probably the best President you'll see in your lifetime. Get ready for 4 more years of awesome!
Golfguy, playing through.
Hillbilly Bob
04-14-20, 11:40
I am not eligible because I made way to much money. But it's so cool people that don't even file get one. At least give me some of the vast amount I paid in last year..Same boat, an I totally agree should get our share.
Honestly, and this just goes to show the presidential elections are more of a popularity contest than they are issue-oriented, Clinton wasn't that bad as far as her resum went. Hell, it was actually kind of stellar. But she was so far from likable and relatable it was the real problem with her, well that and the DNC being a collective group of incompetence.I'm not trying to start an argument here. But the only thing you got right about Hilary was that she wasn't likeable.
Her Resume was never Stellar. Both Clinton's had way to many scandals. But if she had been President. Do you really think she would have handled this Covid19 any better than Trump? And if you think she would have handled it better, then maybe you forgot how she handled Benghazi.
Ronnie0927
04-14-20, 12:55
I'm not trying to start an argument here. But the only thing you got right about Hilary was that she wasn't likeable.
Her Resume was never Stellar. Both Clinton's had way to many scandals. But if she had been President. Do you really think she would have handled this Covid19 any better than Trump? And if you think she would have handled it better, then maybe you forgot how she handled Benghazi.Benghazi = 4 deaths.
And hate to break it to you dude. It wasn't her fault.
The US ambassador was warned NOT to travel to the area as it was becoming hostel, but did so anyways.
The congressional investigation committee (republican majority) found no wrong doing by the Obama administration / staff (Hilary).
Facts are so annoying aren't they!
Muncher2323
04-14-20, 12:59
I'm not trying to start an argument here. But the only thing you got right about Hilary was that she wasn't likeable.
Her Resume was never Stellar. Both Clinton's had way to many scandals. But if she had been President. Do you really think she would have handled this Covid19 any better than Trump? And if you think she would have handled it better, then maybe you forgot how she handled Benghazi.Yea the only thing that was even mildly of issue was a state dept facility that didn't have proper security. Everything else checked out after 2 years of investigations. Yes I do, without a shadow of a doubt, think she would have handled this better. I also think that literally anyone else would've handled it better than trump.
I'm not trying to start an argument here. But the only thing you got right about Hilary was that she wasn't likeable.
Her Resume was never Stellar. Both Clinton's had way to many scandals. But if she had been President. Do you really think she would have handled this Covid19 any better than Trump? And if you think she would have handled it better, then maybe you forgot how she handled Benghazi.Seriously? How does Benghazi compare to this? How does an armed surprise military attack on an embassy that killed four Americans compare to a global pandemic that the US President has been warned about months before decisive action was done?
STFU about Benghazi already because 4 years and 9 GOP congressional panels did not find any evidence of wrong doing.
Yea the only thing that was even mildly of issue was a state dept facility that didn't have proper security. Everything else checked out after 2 years of investigations. Yes I do, without a shadow of a doubt, think she would have handled this better. I also think that literally anyone else would've handled it better than trump.The only thing wrong with Hillary is that she wasn't likeable? She couldn't even get the "reset" button right. Remember that? With the Russians? You know, the people that Trump was investigated about for THREE years and everything checked out OK. And you think she could have done a better job? Wow--got to disagree with you on that one. I love the way you Trump Haters just won't let go. For crying out loud, Man, give the guy a break. He's spending every waking hour on this mess and doing everything humanly possible. Is it perfect? Of course not but I have a hard time believing that anyone could have been prepared to handle this because NOBODY saw it coming.
You know, the people that Trump was investigated about for THREE years and everything checked out OK.
I have a hard time believing that anyone could have been prepared to handle this because NOBODY saw it coming.Everything checked out OK??
NOBODY saw it coming??
That is two of the stupidest statements and funniest too I have ever heard. And I AM A REPUBLICAN!
MassageFreak
04-14-20, 14:11
"I have a hard time believing that anyone could have been prepared to handle this because NOBODY saw it coming. " This should be my motto. MF
Everything checked out OK??
NOBODY saw it coming??
That is two of the stupidest statements and funniest too I have ever heard. And I AM A REPUBLICAN!.
TheDaytimer
04-14-20, 14:12
The only thing wrong with Hillary is that she wasn't likeable? She couldn't even get the "reset" button right. Remember that? With the Russians? You know, the people that Trump was investigated about for THREE years and everything checked out OK. And you think she could have done a better job? Wow--got to disagree with you on that one. I love the way you Trump Haters just won't let go. For crying out loud, Man, give the guy a break. He's spending every waking hour on this mess and doing everything humanly possible. Is it perfect? Of course not but I have a hard time believing that anyone could have been prepared to handle this because NOBODY saw it coming.Did you ever see a photo of the "Reset button. " Red button on a yellow box. That button is universally known as an E-STOP (emergency stop) button on industrial equipment world wide.
TechSticles
04-14-20, 16:39
For crying out loud, Man, give the guy a break. He's spending every waking hour on this mess and doing everything humanly possible. Is it perfect? Of course not but I have a hard time believing that anyone could have been prepared to handle this because NOBODY saw it coming.Why on earth would you believe this silly bullshit?
LurkinGround
04-14-20, 17:18
Remember how his opponent got 3 million more votes than he did?Electoral College.
The only thing wrong with Hillary is that she wasn't likeable? She couldn't even get the "reset" button right. Remember that? With the Russians? You know, the people that Trump was investigated about for THREE years and everything checked out OK. And you think she could have done a better job? Wow--got to disagree with you on that one. I love the way you Trump Haters just won't let go. For crying out loud, Man, give the guy a break. He's spending every waking hour on this mess and doing everything humanly possible. Is it perfect? Of course not but I have a hard time believing that anyone could have been prepared to handle this because NOBODY saw it coming.Kenal, I respect you as a senior. The assumption nobody saw this coming is so very wrong. There have been scenario trainings on just this very type situation since at least 2004. The funniest part is that the last scenario training for a pandemic type flu was back in October 2019.
The facts are the strategic national stockpile has not been maintained as it was supposed to be. Trump fired the pandemic response command staff and doubled up titles for personnel to make up for it, which didn't really replace the people that are needed. Third he is / was more concerned with economic welfare of the top 1%, than he was the medical welfare of our country. His response was "Its just going to go away quickly", when it was in Washington state and the cruise ship. He was egotistical in his approach and that is why we are where we are.
IF he would have shut down areas quicker and provided federal help in contact tracing we would have already been back to somewhat normal. This is far from over, his desire to open the economy up quickly is going to result in a second peak wave of illness. Lets see what happens! Be safe and keep your distance. Be part of the solution. Not part of the problem. P.S. I'm a republican and probably not going to vote for him again.
LurkinGround
04-14-20, 18:32
Hillbilly pieces of shit? Thanks for that. I'm neither a hillbilly or a piece of shit. Given the choices he was the lesser of 2 evils.
Narcissistic? Maybe. But what successful businessman or salesman isn't, so some extent.
Sociopath? Doubtful.
Woman hating? Again, highly doubtful.
Lying? Who in politics doesn't lie? Neither hear nor there.
Reality show star? Check.
Thief? Well, debateable at best.
So basically because you don't care for him he's bad. Probably the best President you'll see in your lifetime. Get ready for 4 more years of awesome!
Golfguy, playing through.I voted for Trump and even though I am not a fan of his, and I will probably vote for him again. Even though I can't stand his asinine comments and blowhard personality. He reminds me of a 12 year old with his stupid comments and nicknames. If he stopped that (which he will never do, its part of him), he would have had an approval rating in the 60's before all this covid-19 crap reared its ugly head.
I think he falls under the right message, wrong messenger category. Its time to rid this country of political bullshit and get back to doing what they are elected to do, governing for the people, not the party. I am an Independent but tend to lean towards the right on most issues.
What I do find slight ironic is some people are on here bashing him for his lack of morals, LOL.
This is a website for guys that PAY FOR PUSSY for chrissakes!
Benghazi = 4 deaths.
And hate to break it to you dude. It wasn't her fault.
The US ambassador was warned NOT to travel to the area as it was becoming hostel, but did so anyways.
The congressional investigation committee (republican majority) found no wrong doing by the Obama administration / staff (Hilary).
Facts are so annoying aren't they!You still fail to see the point. There was a call for help. And she told the Air Force to Stand Down. By now, didn't matter that the Ambassador was told not to go. But what did matter was, there was a call for help, and she told them to stand down. And what was that other comment she made. What does it matter? It mattered to their families.
LurkinGround
04-14-20, 19:10
Yea the only thing that was even mildly of issue was a state dept facility that didn't have proper security. Everything else checked out after 2 years of investigations. Yes I do, without a shadow of a doubt, think she would have handled this better. I also think that literally anyone else would've handled it better than trump.Hillary, nor anyone else would have handled it much differently in the beginning.
In late January, WHO could not reach a consensus on as if the virus constituted a public health emergency. Even Dr. Fauci, in late January downplayed the effects the virus would have, the list of people that didn't see it coming are well documented if you Google the subject. While you are at it, Google World Map of Covid-19 and see that is is literally EVERYWHERE IN THE FUCKING WORLD. So using your analogy, I guess EVERY LEADER OF EVERY COUNTRY is as inept as Donald Trump? Pull up a map, every tiny island in the Pacific has it.
I don't care who the President was at the time, short of banning ALL international travel into this county in early January, including US CITIZENS from abroad, it would not have mattered. When he banned Chinese nationals in late January, he was labeled a xenophobe, even Joe Biden chimed in saying it wasnt the time for hysteria and a xenophobic response.
Now, ban all travel, shut down businesses and all the other bullshit we are dealing with. We would still have it as it only takes one person to start the shotgun effect. Lets say we don't have that one person in the you. S and we stay virus free. Would Trump, or Hillary, or any other President get credit for all the saved lives? FUCK NO! The opposition would rake them over the coals for trashing our economy, over reacting for nothing! Its called politics.
So, what is the other response, wait until it becomes a problem and then respond. Granted, Trumps response has lacked in certain areas but excelled in others. Once again, he is a fucking blowhard that cannot control calling people out, shifting blame and taking credit where sometimes its not deserving, but a lot of good things have happened as well in the past few weeks.
True, he is looking at this from an electable standpoint, once again, that's politics, every decision all these assholes make is based on it and he is no different.
Sorry for the rant but I will leave you all with this. Last week, A2 was correct, if you are under 50, healthy, your chance of dying from this shit is basically zero. Look at the death rate broken down, the vast majority are elderly people with underlying medical conditions, hypertension, respiratory, cancer, etc. We should quarantine all of the high risk people and let the majority get back to work. Hell, we could have manufacturers make everyone hazmat suits and face shields for less than the $1200 they are doling out, not too mention the 4 months of unemployment at your current rate of pay, not too mention all the money they are paying out if you get it, have to care for someone that has it or have to stay home with your kids due to schools being closed.
Whats another $2 trillion onto the $21 trillion in debt we currently have? Congress is working on another stimulus bill now that is even larger! Print more money! We better end all of this shit soon or it will take a decade or more to dig out of the economic hole we are digging, it will make the 1930's look like a recession. Some of the models show 35%+ unemployment. Stock market tanking, house prices halved, retirement portfolios wiped out. The cure cannot be worse than the disease itself.
Willow1535
04-14-20, 21:19
Left or Right, it really doesn't matter. It all comes down to intelligence. In order to survive in this country, you have to be smart and educated. Those are two things that are severely lacking in our country. America is a bad place to live if you are uneducated. You are doomed and will forever be the hamster on the wheel.
Some of the comments I have heard about Trump are hilarious, but the best is the one that he might be the best President that we will see in our lifetime. I would put him at the bottom of the list of all Presidents since 1980, even behind Bush.
Like him or hate him; he is comedy gold. You couldn't make some of this stuff up if you tried. He does entertain me and is probably the funniest president I have seen to date. I will give you that; for sure.
He actually wanted HIS signature to be on the checks!
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-wants-his-signature-to-appear-on-coronavirus-stimulus-checks-2020-03-28
Remember the "Trump coronavirus instructions" you got in the mail?
Narcissism 101- "I take all the credit. You take all the blame".
As Jim Jaimes said, the scary part is just how many Americans are such stupid authoritarian sheep that they actually see him as a "leader". The lead lemming, maybe.
The good dr.
TechSticles
04-14-20, 21:45
If you dipshits put as much thought into voting and other actions as you did into posting on a hooker board, well, what a wonderful world it would be, right?
Muncher2323
04-15-20, 07:15
Hillary, nor anyone else would have handled it much differently in the beginning.
In late January, WHO could not reach a consensus on as if the virus constituted a public health emergency. Even Dr. Fauci, in late January downplayed the effects the virus would have, the list of people that didn't see it coming are well documented if you Google the subject. While you are at it, Google World Map of Covid-19 and see that is is literally EVERYWHERE IN THE FUCKING WORLD. So using your analogy, I guess EVERY LEADER OF EVERY COUNTRY is as inept as Donald Trump? Pull up a map, every tiny island in the Pacific has it.
I don't care who the President was at the time, short of banning ALL international travel into this county in early January, including US CITIZENS from abroad, it would not have mattered. When he banned Chinese nationals in late January, he was labeled a xenophobe, even Joe Biden chimed in saying it wasnt the time for hysteria and a xenophobic response.
Now, ban all travel, shut down businesses and all the other bullshit we are dealing with. We would still have it as it only takes one person to start the shotgun effect. Lets say we don't have that one person in the you. S and we stay virus free. Would Trump, or Hillary, or any other President get credit for all the saved lives? FUCK NO! The opposition would rake them over the coals for trashing our economy, over reacting for nothing! Its called politics.
So, what is the other response, wait until it becomes a problem and then respond. Granted, Trumps response has lacked in certain areas but excelled in others. Once again, he is a fucking blowhard that cannot control calling people out, shifting blame and taking credit where sometimes its not deserving, but a lot of good things have happened as well in the past few weeks.
True, he is looking at this from an electable standpoint, once again, that's politics, every decision all these assholes make is based on it and he is no different.
Sorry for the rant but I will leave you all with this. Last week, A2 was correct, if you are under 50, healthy, your chance of dying from this shit is basically zero. Look at the death rate broken down, the vast majority are elderly people with underlying medical conditions, hypertension, respiratory, cancer, etc. We should quarantine all of the high risk people and let the majority get back to work. Hell, we could have manufacturers make everyone hazmat suits and face shields for less than the $1200 they are doling out, not too mention the 4 months of unemployment at your current rate of pay, not too mention all the money they are paying out if you get it, have to care for someone that has it or have to stay home with your kids due to schools being closed.
Whats another $2 trillion onto the $21 trillion in debt we currently have? Congress is working on another stimulus bill now that is even larger! Print more money! We better end all of this shit soon or it will take a decade or more to dig out of the economic hole we are digging, it will make the 1930's look like a recession. Some of the models show 35%+ unemployment. Stock market tanking, house prices halved, retirement portfolios wiped out. The cure cannot be worse than the disease itself.I he only response I'm making is to your "if you're under 50" remark. This is entirely incorrect.
BarnesMike32
04-15-20, 07:55
Electoral College.Minority rule.
TheDaytimer
04-15-20, 10:34
Kenal, I respect you as a senior. The assumption nobody saw this coming is so very wrong. There have been scenario trainings on just this very type situation since at least 2004. The funniest part is that the last scenario training for a pandemic type flu was back in October 2019.
The facts are the strategic national stockpile has not been maintained as it was supposed to be. Trump fired the pandemic response command staff and doubled up titles for personnel to make up for it, which didn't really replace the people that are needed. Third he is / was more concerned with economic welfare of the top 1%, than he was the medical welfare of our country. His response was "Its just going to go away quickly", when it was in Washington state and the cruise ship. He was egotistical in his approach and that is why we are where we are.
IF he would have shut down areas quicker and provided federal help in contact tracing we would have already been back to somewhat normal. This is far from over, his desire to open the economy up quickly is going to result in a second peak wave of illness. Lets see what happens! Be safe and keep your distance. Be part of the solution. Not part of the problem. P.S. I'm a republican and probably not going to vote for him again.He shut down air travel from China and Europe and he was called Racist, Xenophobic (sp) etc. Can you imagine the outcry if he shut down businesses, forced social distancing etc in January without a preponderance of evidence that we were in the midst of a Pandemic. The same people would have called him a DICTATOR or worse. That was the same time Nancy was walking the streets of Chiatown in SFO telling people NO BIG DEAL come shop and eat and de Blasio was doing the same in New York City.
MarblesKyle
04-15-20, 13:41
Learn the difference between Communism and Fascism. He is a fascistI'm not sure you know what the latter means, unless in your world someone has to be one or the other.
He shut down air travel from China and Europe and he was called Racist, Xenophobic (sp) etc. Can you imagine the outcry if he shut down businesses, forced social distancing etc in January without a preponderance of evidence that we were in the midst of a Pandemic. The same people would have called him a DICTATOR or worse. That was the same time Nancy was walking the streets of Chiatown in SFO telling people NO BIG DEAL come shop and eat and de Blasio was doing the same in New York City.More stupidity from blind loyalists.
He didn't shut down air travel. 40,000 people have come here from China since the "shut down".
He as warned by several members of his own administration and he ignored them. He called it a hoax. He said it was no more than the flu and it would go away in April when it gets warmer. He says d anyone who wanted a test could get a test. He praised Xi of China in January and now he blames China. He lies. And he lies. And he lies. And he lies more.
And I am a republican. Who voted for Hillary. Simply because this incompetent con man has been blabbering stupidity his entire life and has no leadership abilities.
More stupidity from blind loyalists.
He didn't shut down air travel. 40,000 people have come here from China since the "shut down".
He as warned by several members of his own administration and he ignored them. He called it a hoax. He said it was no more than the flu and it would go away in April when it gets warmer. He says d anyone who wanted a test could get a test. He praised Xi of China in January and now he blames China. He lies. And he lies. And he lies. And he lies more.
And I am a republican. Who voted for Hillary. Simply because this incompetent con man has been blabbering stupidity his entire life and has no leadership abilities.Yeah because Hillary has always told the truth. Jesus.
LurkinGround
04-15-20, 16:42
I he only response I'm making is to your "if you'r%, sae under 50" remark. This is entirely incorrect.I wrote basically zero. The actual numbers as of today, broken down is 40-49, . 02 same percentage for 30-39,20-29 and 10-19. There are no fatalites fatalities listed for ages 0-9.
These numbers are compiled from known cases, meaning IF you were infected by covid-19. Take the ones not affected and the numbers drop down to basically nothing, which I believe is what I wrote in the first place actually.
Willow1535
04-15-20, 17:37
When you live in a bubble and only hear what you want to hear.
More stupidity from blind loyalists.
He didn't shut down air travel. 40,000 people have come here from China since the "shut down".
He as warned by several members of his own administration and he ignored them. He called it a hoax. He said it was no more than the flu and it would go away in April when it gets warmer. He says d anyone who wanted a test could get a test. He praised Xi of China in January and now he blames China. He lies. And he lies. And he lies. And he lies more.
And I am a republican. Who voted for Hillary. Simply because this incompetent con man has been blabbering stupidity his entire life and has no leadership abilities.
Cincyfunguy
04-15-20, 18:55
Minority rule.
Electoral College.No, it's not minority rule. If you like the popular vote it simply means you would like for California and New York to decide all federal elections (and that of course, would mean liberal, and of course most liberals would enjoy that). We are not a democracy, we are a democratic republic. The founders did not want a consolidation of one massive group of people to determine the outcome of federal elections. The electoral college intends to balance the power of the vote so that those in rural areas and less populous states are not forgotten. It may not be perfect, but it is a far cry better than having LA and NYC decide virtually every election, unless of course, you're a democrat.
What I find interesting is that everyone, and EVERY candidate that enters the race KNOWS that it is governed by the electoral college and that's how it works; they only seem to complain about it if it doesn't go their way.
I have no desire to further engage in the political debate here. It serves no point to do so.
I wrote basically zero. The actual numbers as of today, broken down is 40-49, . 02 same percentage for 30-39,20-29 and 10-19. There are no fatalites fatalities listed for ages 0-9.
These numbers are compiled from known cases, meaning IF you were infected by covid-19. Take the ones not affected and the numbers drop down to basically nothing, which I believe is what I wrote in the first place actually.I am not going to argue the fatality percentages because at this point anybody can speculate and use modeling to come up with a variety of different results!
That being said, there have been fatalities in the 0-9 range. As far as, the percentage that you mention for basically ages 10-49 being. 02 - do you mean 2 percent or 2/100 of a percent? If I were to rely on one of those it would be 2%, because even in the worst flu season in the last 20 or so years New York city has not had to use 600-700 body bags a day from the flu. This is with stay at home orders. Imagine the numbers if stay at home orders were not in place. Using 2% for all, just as an example and using a crude average from flu data from last 10 years of about 40,000 deaths that would mean 800,000 deaths at the rate with no social distancing and without compounding the number due to ventilators and ICU beds not available with surge.
This virus affects younger people differently, it creates a cytokine storm where the body's own immune system kicks in hyperdrive and basically kills itself. Same as Flu in younger people who die from the flu, but this virus is at least 2 x more contagious.
In middle age and older it damages the lungs in a pneumonia way, but in many different areas of the lungs instead of just one or two spots.
When you live in a bubble and only hear what you want to hear.I don't watch fox news anymore.
TechSticles
04-16-20, 09:34
No, it's not minority rule. If you like the popular vote it simply means you would like for California and New York to decide all federal elections (and that of course, would mean liberal, and of course most liberals would enjoy that). We are not a democracy, we are a democratic republic. The founders did not want a consolidation of one massive group of people to determine the outcome of federal elections. The electoral college intends to balance the power of the vote so that those in rural areas and less populous states are not forgotten. It may not be perfect, but it is a far cry better than having LA and NYC decide virtually every election, unless of course, you're a democrat.
What I find interesting is that everyone, and EVERY candidate that enters the race KNOWS that it is governed by the electoral college and that's how it works; they only seem to complain about it if it doesn't go their way.
I have no desire to further engage in the political debate here. It serves no point to do so.I see this a lot on all the righty political boards. What it really means is while you don't want liberals to win elections, you're perfectly fine with some dipshit in Idaho having a vote that counts 5 times more than someone in CA or NY. But that's OK, right?
I see this a lot on all the righty political boards. What it really means is while you don't want liberals to win elections, you're perfectly fine with some dipshit in Idaho having a vote that counts 5 times more than someone in CA or NY. But that's fine, right?How does a vote in Idaho count 5 times more than someone in California? Idaho has 4 votes in the Electoral. California has 55. I personally don't want "dipshits" in California or New York making the decisions for me. Like one said earlier on here it's only when a Democrat loses an election that they say it should go off the popular vote. If you know going into a campaign that the popular vote doesn't get you elected and then you should campaign to win the electoral. Pretty simple.
WanderingAbout
04-16-20, 10:27
That dipshit in Idaho is more and more likely to be a West Coaster who moved to the potato state to escape the ridiculous cost of living, high taxes, stifling government regulations, etc., they endured in California. The same can be said for Utah which is now entering the medium stage of purple. While Colorado is headed towards being blue over the next decade. Montana and Wyoming are in the early stages of turning purple. So, in time, things will change in the mountain west and electorial college will favor the blue state of mind.
I see this a lot on all the righty political boards. What it really means is while you don't want liberals to win elections, you're perfectly fine with some dipshit in Idaho having a vote that counts 5 times more than someone in CA or NY. But that's OK, right?
Yeah because Hillary has always told the truth. Jesus.Open your eyes tiger. Trump has told over 18,000 in three years. Not even close to the same by light years.
That dipshit in Idaho is more and more likely to be a West Coaster who moved to the potato state to escape the ridiculous cost of living, high taxes, stifling government regulations, etc., they endured in California. The same can be said for Utah which is now entering the medium stage of purple. While Colorado is headed towards being blue over the next decade. Montana and Wyoming are in the early stages of turning purple. So, in time, things will change in the mountain west and electorial college will favor the blue state of mind.Texas will be blue by 2030 and our party may never win another election thanks to hating on Hispanics. ☹65039;.
It's sad what our party's turned into thanks to racists like trump.
Texas will be blue by 2030 and our party may never win another election thanks to hating on Hispanics.
It's sad what our party's turned into thanks to racists like trump.Texas and Florida are both trending blue and will likely be reliable locked up EC votes for the Dems after 2024 or 2028.
I've already seen a few polls where FL could easily go blue this year.
A Republican winning a Presidential election in the near future is pretty much mission impossible.
TechSticles
04-16-20, 11:42
That dipshit in Idaho is more and more likely to be a West Coaster who moved to the potato state to escape the ridiculous cost of living, high taxes, stifling government regulations, etc., they endured in California. The same can be said for Utah which is now entering the medium stage of purple. While Colorado is headed towards being blue over the next decade. Montana and Wyoming are in the early stages of turning purple. So, in time, things will change in the mountain west and electorial college will favor the blue state of mind.I think I saw an article a while back where a mayor of a small midwest town was running on a platform of chasing the California transplants out of the area. LOL.
TechSticles
04-16-20, 11:43
Texas will be blue by 2030 and our party may never win another election thanks to hating on Hispanics. ☹65039;.
It's sad what our party's turned into thanks to racists like trump.The real irony is, that most Hispanics I've met tend to be conservative in their voting practices.
WanderingAbout
04-16-20, 12:16
I think I saw an article a while back where a mayor of a small midwest town was running on a platform of chasing the California transplants out of the area. LOL.Sure is / was such a candidate.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/29/for-this-idaho-candidate-the-enemy-is-california-exodus/
And there is this read about the Californimmigration.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-west-coast-transplants-pour-in-a-small-idaho-town-has-a-big-dilemma-11579611600
Open your eyes tiger. Trump has told over 18,000 in three years. Not even close to the same by light years.My eyes are open. 18,000. Sounds legit. No telling how many lies were on Hillary's server she smashed and destroyed. Maybe 18,001.
TechSticles
04-16-20, 16:59
Sure is / was such a candidate.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/29/for-this-idaho-candidate-the-enemy-is-california-exodus/
And there is this read about the Californimmigration.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-west-coast-transplants-pour-in-a-small-idaho-town-has-a-big-dilemma-11579611600Had to fish out my WSJ login info for that one. Usually reading on an iPad. Good article.
TechSticles
04-16-20, 17:29
Texas and Florida are both trending blue and will likely be reliable locked up EC votes for the Dems after 2024 or 2028.
I've already seen a few polls where FL could easily go blue this year.
A Republican winning a Presidential election in the near future is pretty much mission impossible.There is a joke circulating in Germany:
"What borders on stupidity?
"Mexico and Canada!
The real irony is, that most Hispanics I've met tend to be conservative in their voting practices.It's mostly an age thing. Latinos older than 55 vote Repub in a higher percentage than those under that age.
But overall, about 70% of all Latinos vote Democrat.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/09/how-latinos-voted-in-2018-midterms/
Willow1535
04-16-20, 20:21
I try not to watch any of the cable "news" shows and choose to read / research things for myself. I also stay away from Facebook and Twitter as well. I only discuss politics with my friends. Some tend to lean one way or the other, but that doesn't bother me. I can't deal with people who are entrenched and stuck in that mode where they think that "their side" is superior. I consider myself to be a Libertarian. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats in the past and will continue to base my decisions on the issues, rather than vote along party lines.
I think that we should all have to pass a test (civics, political science, math, etc,) before you can vote. Maybe even spelling! Everyone should be able to vote, but you should have a clue on how our government works.
I don't watch fox news anymore.
CincyHobbist
04-16-20, 21:49
I try not to watch any of the cable "news" shows and choose to read / research things for myself. I also stay away from Facebook and Twitter as well. I only discuss politics with my friends. Some tend to lean one way or the other, but that doesn't bother me. I can't deal with people who are entrenched and stuck in that mode where they think that "their side" is superior. I consider myself to be a Libertarian. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats in the past and will continue to base my decisions on the issues, rather than vote along party lines.
I think that we should all have to pass a test (civics, political science, math, etc,) before you can vote. Maybe even spelling! Everyone should be able to vote, but you should have a clue on how our government worksIf that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.
I think that we should all have to pass a test (civics, political science, math, etc,) before you can vote. Maybe even spelling! Everyone should be able to vote, but you should have a clue on how our government works.I've always said the same thing about running for President. Being over 35 and a US citizen is probably the easiest qualifications of any job on Earth. Even to flip burgers or clean toilets requires a high school diploma or GED.
They need to come up with a very difficult test that is harder to pass than a medical board exam or bar exam. It will test you on all matters of Presidential duties, such as government and law, economics, science, foreign policy, etc.
Once you are able to pass that exam, then you can run for President. The most important job in the world should not have the lowest barrier to entry.
My eyes are open. 18,000. Sounds legit. No telling how many lies were on Hillary's server she smashed and destroyed. Maybe 18,001.Not saying HRC wasn't hiding anything but if she were it's total speculation and probably false. Your hero, the tangerine tellatubby on the other hand has thousands of lies documented. Nice story dude. Keep telling it.
Not saying HRC wasn't hiding anything but if she were it's total speculation and probably false. Your hero, the tangerine tellatubby on the other hand has thousands of lies documented. Nice story dude. Keep telling it.I don't know at all. That was the point of her doing it so no one would know. Makes sense. You must know of course. Destroying personal servers is normal behavior so quit being so naive. This argument is pointless because everyone has their own views and opinions. Trump 2020 by a landslide. Biden should be quite the shit show in upcoming debates. Good luck sir.
How does a vote in Idaho count 5 times more than someone in California? Idaho has 4 votes in the Electoral. California has 55. I personally don't want "dipshits" in California or New York making the decisions for me. Like one said earlier on here it's only when a Democrat loses an election that they say it should go off the popular vote. If you know going into a campaign that the popular vote doesn't get you elected and then you should campaign to win the electoral. Pretty simple.Doesn't deserve any credibility for anything they type. Just sayin' dude. Really? TigerKing? Seriously? Piss off.
Doesn't deserve any credibility for anything they type. Just sayin' dude. Really? TigerKing? Seriously? Piss off.I could say the same. Get a clue.
Doesn't deserve any credibility for anything they type. Just sayin' dude. Really? TigerKing? Seriously? Piss off.Mad about a username on a forum where people talk about hookers. Wow. You take this shit way too serious. This will be the last I talk about politics on this forum. Some get butt hurt too bad.
How does a vote in Idaho count 5 times more than someone in California? Idaho has 4 votes in the Electoral. California has 55. I personally don't want "dipshits" in California or New York making the decisions for me. Like one said earlier on here it's only when a Democrat loses an election that they say it should go off the popular vote. If you know going into a campaign that the popular vote doesn't get you elected and then you should campaign to win the electoral. Pretty simple.You'll be singing a different tune once Texas and Florida become reliable blue states in Presidential elections.
Then you gerrymandering twats will come up with some other scam that tries to deny voters their Constitutional rights.
Your party is shrinking every year and you see the writing on the wall. Only scared desperate people come up with increasingly desperate measures to hold on to power.
TechSticles
04-17-20, 10:55
If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.There isn't any right-wing conspiracy theory you aren't completely taken in by. Did you get your pillow from the guy on faux news? LOL.
I try not to watch any of the cable "news" shows and choose to read / research things for myself. I also stay away from Facebook and Twitter as well. I only discuss politics with my friends. Some tend to lean one way or the other, but that doesn't bother me. I can't deal with people who are entrenched and stuck in that mode where they think that "their side" is superior. I consider myself to be a Libertarian. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats in the past and will continue to base my decisions on the issues, rather than vote along party lines.
I think that we should all have to pass a test (civics, political science, math, etc,) before you can vote. Maybe even spelling! Everyone should be able to vote, but you should have a clue on how our government works.I agree with everything you said.
If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.YOU win the stupidest post ever on here. Kena1, you are no longer #1.
If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.You misspelled, "Republicans". There. I fixed it for you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/us/republican-voter-fraud.html
TechSticles
04-17-20, 12:47
YOU win the stupidest post ever on here. Kena1, you are no longer #1.That TigerKing guy is about to take the lead. LOL.
Willow1535
04-17-20, 13:40
Dems with the dead people voting and Republicans with brain dead people voting. It's all the same. They would cancel each other out.
If that is a requirement, how will the Dems get the dead folks to vote? LOL.
You miss the most important tests of all: personal ethics, honesty and morality. Unfortunately few candidates, if any, would pass. And the vanishingly few who might pass would probably fail most of the other tests. LOL.
I've always said the same thing about running for President. Being over 35 and a US citizen is probably the easiest qualifications of any job on Earth. Even to flip burgers or clean toilets requires a high school diploma or GED.
They need to come up with a very difficult test that is harder to pass than a medical board exam or bar exam. It will test you on all matters of Presidential duties, such as government and law, economics, science, foreign policy, etc.
Once you are able to pass that exam, then you can run for President. The most important job in the world should not have the lowest barrier to entry.
CincyHobbist
04-17-20, 16:48
There isn't any right-wing conspiracy theory you aren't completely taken in by. Did you get your pillow from the guy on faux news? LOL.I am of draculan descent and sleep in a coffin leaning against the corner in my bedroom! BTW this post and the last were pure sarcasm! Both parties suck! Anyone that fights so hard to oppress or change the other's point of view for a political party has been brainwashed or is a sheep! What most have forgotten is right is right and wrong is wrong! We have a duty to help out or fellow man. Woman and child. Now where does it say that we have to beat the crap out of one another to prove our beliefs. Be that politics, religion, sex or anything else in this world.
If you see someone dying on the side of the road are you going to walk over and ask them qualifying questions before you help them out?
Mad about a username on a forum where people talk about hookers. Wow. You take this shit way too serious. This will be the last I talk about politics on this forum. Some get butt hurt too bad.I chalk that up to a job well done! And this thread isn't about hookers. It's about stupid ass modern day republicans putting asswipes like trump in office and then defending it. And you fit the bill.
This subsection is a riot, and not in a good way. It's like watching children argue about whose dad can beat up whose. For those that are so offended by Trump and his administration, I'm happy to take that horrendous stimulus check off your hands. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for my fellow man.
Jayson7825
04-18-20, 14:00
And for those of you in NKY, I'll take them off your hands too.
This subsection is a riot, and not in a good way. It's like watching children argue about whose dad can beat up whose. For those that are so offended by Trump and his administration, I'm happy to take that horrendous stimulus check off your hands. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for my fellow man..
I chalk that up to a job well done! And this thread isn't about hookers. It's about stupid ass modern day republicans putting asswipes like trump in office and then defending it. And you fit the bill.I said the forum. I didn't say anything about this thread. See the difference between you and I are I can have an adult conversation with Liberals without getting my ass hurt. Anyway I'm still trying to figure out what you did well.
TechSticles
04-18-20, 15:50
This subsection is a riot, and not in a good way. It's like watching children argue about whose dad can beat up whose. For those that are so offended by Trump and his administration, I'm happy to take that horrendous stimulus check off your hands. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for my fellow man.
And for those of you in NKY, I'll take them off your hands too.
.So clever with that broken record bullshit. You trumptards act like he did that all by himself or something. Keep it up though, he will need all the braniacs like you he can get in November.
So clever with that broken record bullshit. You trumptards act like he did that all by himself or something. Keep it up though, he will need all the braniacs like you he can get in November.A child who can't get his way so you just keep throwing the same tantrum until your mommy gives you a cookie.
What pussy is? Or you been in the house to long? Hell start a spelling bee. Or take a test that will do it. There's the good old my dog is bigger than your dog! You all are acting like a pack of fucking kids. Are you too scared to go out and play? Go out and find some pussy. That will take your mind off your frustration. I've found a few new good ones. They are out there! Lenny6746.
Cincyfunguy
04-19-20, 10:06
With all the childish name calling and personal attacks, apparently we sometimes need to be reminded.
With all the childish name calling and personal attacks, apparently we sometimes need to be reminded.Is opposing bigotry, bigotry?
Bobby Linn
04-19-20, 10:34
If after being reminded of this definition and I was asked if that described me? My face would turn red and I would have to raise my hand to affirm that in a lot of cases that is 'me'. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it, what everyone does NOT have is the right to demand your brothers and sisters to have that same opinion. Thanks 'funguy' for the reminder!
With all the childish name calling and personal attacks, apparently we sometimes need to be reminded.
TechSticles
04-19-20, 20:37
With all the childish name calling and personal attacks, apparently we sometimes need to be reminded.
If after being reminded of this definition and I was asked if that described me? My face would turn red and I would have to raise my hand to affirm that in a lot of cases that is 'me'. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it, what everyone does NOT have is the right to demand your brothers and sisters to have that same opinion. Thanks 'funguy' for the reminder!I believe that people that proudly follow a con man that openly emboldens racists, neo-nazis, thugs, and liars, who also encourages those people to display that behavior, should be shamed and ridiculed publicly.
If that makes me a name-caller, I can live with it.
For those that are so offended by Trump and his administration, I'm happy to take that horrendous stimulus check off your hands. No need to thank me. It's the least I can do for my fellow man.I can't wait to see Captain Bone Spurs switch his tune on those stimulus checks once the pandemic is over. He puts his cartoony signature on them now and takes credit for handing out money to needy Americans, but we all know by election time he'll be calling them "socialist handouts" by Pelosi and Schumer and blaming them for his deficit spinning out of control.
Trump changes his mind like a fart in the breeze. He has no idea which way it's going to go one minute to the next. The worst flip flopper we've ever seen.
Yes everyone has a right to an opinion and we usually voice ours However, remember opinions have different.
Values. Age Experience Education Life Experiences Thats how we develope Expert witnesses. So accept know and respect your level. But of course there are those without any objectivity or a foundation for their thoughts that will always have to be right. Be Safe.
I believe that people that proudly follow a con man that openly emboldens racists, neo-nazis, thugs, and liars, who also encourages those people to display that behavior, should be shamed and ridiculed publicly.
If that makes me a name-caller, I can live with it.
TechSticles
04-20-20, 13:38
Yes everyone has a right to an opinion and we usually voice ours However, remember opinions have different.
Values. Age Experience Education Life Experiences Thats how we develope Expert witnesses. So accept know and respect your level. But of course there are those without any objectivity or a foundation for their thoughts that will always have to be right. Be Safe.DunningKruger effect
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the bias results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."
All opinions aren't created equally.
Are we not simply agreeing that opinions have varying degrees of value?
Yes everyone has a right to an opinion and we usually voice ours However, remember opinions have different.
Values. Age Experience Education Life Experiences Thats how we develope Expert witnesses. So accept know and respect your level. But of course there are those without any objectivity or a foundation for their thoughts that will always have to be right. Be Safe.
DunningKruger effect
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
As described by social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the bias results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."
All opinions aren't created equally.The problem with Dunning-Kruger is that you can't possibly explain it to the people who have it.
Or, when I summarize a very large literature on human competence:
"competent people can recognize competence AND incompetence, in themselves and in others. Incompetent people can NOT recognize competence OR incompetence, in themselves or in others".
The good dr.
TechSticles
04-20-20, 20:15
The problem with Dunning-Kruger is that you can't possibly explain it to the people who have it.
Or, when I summarize a very large literature on human competence:
"competent people can recognize competence AND incompetence, in themselves and in others. Incompetent people can NOT recognize competence OR incompetence, in themselves or in others".
The good dr.Ironic how the incompetent claim so much competence.
WanderingAbout
04-20-20, 21:26
Ironic how the incompetent claim so much competence.It's often difficult to teach / inform / tell someone about something when they believe they already know it. Even when they do not.
Ironic how the incompetent claim so much competence.Narcissism 101.
Tgd.
GoodWill123
04-21-20, 08:14
I agree with INeedaName. The president, who by the way has done a phenomenal job managing the economy, our military, and our borders, has wrestled with this decision to open the economy. And at some point, he has an obligation to balance the needs of health and economic sustainability.
There are so many factors. And I disagree with the flip flop comment a few posts down. Name one. What I like about the airing of the daily briefings is that you get to see what he actually said, and the context. Not what CNN Said and their out of context airplay.
Let's not forget. This is a president ho is doing this job for a dollar a year. He is the same president who paid for a Jewish boy to have surgery overseas on his own dime. And has paid the college education of many kids, other than his own. Give the guy a break. Instead of finding ways to criticize, during this time, find the positive in what's going on, and the magnitude of the decision he must make.
Yes, the doctors are knowledgeable in infectious disease and spread and mitigation. But that is where their authority stops. ors.
Willow1535
04-21-20, 10:01
Finally, two stand up conservatives. Thanks for offering to round up these entitlement checks and send them back to the Federal Government. You guys are true patriots.
And for those of you in NKY, I'll take them off your hands too.
.
I feel like this page should be called "Teenage girl drama". Seriously, you guys are worse then little teenage girls. No one gives a crap about your opinions on politics. Post useful information about providers and stop behaving like a bunch of teenage girls. This section has been full of useless dribble for almost a month.
You expressed it better than I did! Thank you I get tired of reading that crap too! Lenny6746.
Simp4ebony
04-21-20, 11:42
I feel like this page should be called "Teenage girl drama". Seriously, you guys are worse then little teenage girls. No one gives a crap about your opinions on politics. Post useful information about providers and stop behaving like a bunch of teenage girls. This section has been full of useless dribble for almost a month.This thread is called "Rants, Raves, and Opinions," yet here you come typing OMG and talking about how people are acting like little girls. LOLOL. Why would you be angry at people for sharing their rants, raves, and opinions in the thread designed for exactly that? Am I missing something?
Less politics, more pussy.
This thread is called "Rants, Raves, and Opinions," yet here you come typing OMG and talking about how people are acting like little girls. LOLOL. Why would you be angry at people for sharing their rants, raves, and opinions in the thread designed for exactly that? Am I missing something?
Less politics, more pussy.No exploits to broadcast. I like most am taking a break from the hobby until safer times present themselves. Being armchair quarterbacks are about all that's left after you've completed every task that's been neglected over the years and now, it's spend the day with the SO or go to Home Depot and check another project off your list. After that's over, your sexual frustrations from not banging a 20 yo hard body takes over and we all ***** about the job someone else has that we all think we could do better.
This thread is called "Rants, Raves, and Opinions," yet here you come typing OMG and talking about how people are acting like little girls. LOLOL. Why would you be angry at people for sharing their rants, raves, and opinions in the thread designed for exactly that? Am I missing something?Yes, this is a website about pussy not politics. Let's start ranting, raving and opinionating about pussy again.
TechSticles
04-21-20, 16:26
I feel like this page should be called "Teenage girl drama". Seriously, you guys are worse then little teenage girls. No one gives a crap about your opinions on politics. Post useful information about providers and stop behaving like a bunch of teenage girls. This section has been full of useless dribble for almost a month.So post about something you want to talk about, dickwad. Otherwise, just go fuck yourself.
This thread is called "Rants, Raves, and Opinions," yet here you come typing OMG and talking about how people are acting like little girls. LOLOL. Why would you be angry at people for sharing their rants, raves, and opinions in the thread designed for exactly that? Am I missing something?No shit. That's the best response I've seen. I suppose we can only rant about what cockbreath wants to talk about.
TechSticles
04-21-20, 16:27
Less politics, more pussy.Start ranting, raving or opining about pussy.
In the meantime, here's something you can try:
TechSticles
04-21-20, 16:37
I agree with INeedaName. The president, who by the way has done a phenomenal job managing the economy, our military, and our borders, has wrestled with this decision to open the economy. And at some point, he has an obligation to balance the needs of health and economic sustainability.
There are so many factors. And I disagree with the flip flop comment a few posts down. Name one. What I like about the airing of the daily briefings is that you get to see what he actually said, and the context. Not what CNN Said and their out of context airplay.
Let's not forget. This is a president ho is doing this job for a dollar a year. He is the same president who paid for a Jewish boy to have surgery overseas on his own dime. And has paid the college education of many kids, other than his own. Give the guy a break. Instead of finding ways to criticize, during this time, find the positive in what's going on, and the magnitude of the decision he must make.Almost every thing you just wrote is bullshit upon bullshit. Trump has used the presidency to enrich himself and his family far beyond the few hundred thousand the job pays.
Tell me. Do his balls taste like honey? Because people like you are firmly attached to them.
Also, one only "wrestles" with s decision when they give it any thought. Watch his campaign rally press conferences. Does he sound intelligent to you? You wrote a better sentence than he could ever write or speak.
The first thing is what site are we on? This crap has been going on for a month now! All this ongoing crap dosen't have anything to do with ranting and raving about situations we have been in. This virus has affected all of us there's no doubt about it that's true. But it won't stop me about raving about providers I've seen and am still seeing. Or a rant on how the provider ads are Down I tried for three days and nothing. Listcrawler has some I have been with and they were good too. One by the name of Paige. That's a rave not a report. A very good provider, I'm simply tired of reading about just horseshit cause someone got there feelings hurt. Go out and get a crying towel and a BBBJ. You will feel better! Lenny6746.
Less politics, more pussy.If there were any pussy around, I wouldn't be writing about politics.
Tgd.
JustACustomer
04-21-20, 18:51
If there were any pussy around, I wouldn't be writing about politics.
Tgd.There is plenty of pussy around. Not sure what you guys are complaining about.
I guess fellow hobbyist are too old and not in the best of shape if you are worried about this. Same for providers. Long overdue for a culling of the herd. Will take some of the strain off of our healthcare system too when this is all over. Cure (shutting down the economy causing 20% unemployment) is worse than the problem (Saving at risk groups of population), if you ask me. We are way past there being any chance of overwhelming our healthcare system anymore. Lets get back to it folks!
I agree with INeedaName. The president, who by the way has done a phenomenal job managing the economy, our military, and our borders, has wrestled with this decision to open the economy. And at some point, he has an obligation to balance the needs of health and economic sustainability.
There are so many factors. And I disagree with the flip flop comment a few posts down. Name one. What I like about the airing of the daily briefings is that you get to see what he actually said, and the context. Not what CNN Said and their out of context airplay.
Let's not forget. This is a president ho is doing this job for a dollar a year. He is the same president who paid for a Jewish boy to have surgery overseas on his own dime. And has paid the college education of many kids, other than his own. Give the guy a break. Instead of finding ways to criticize, during this time, find the positive in what's going on, and the magnitude of the decision he must make.I guess you believe the shit that he said he invented and all the other bull that he says. The saddest part of your comment is that you watch the press briefings and you still think he is a genius. God help us!
Long overdue for a culling of the herd. Will take some of the strain off of our healthcare system too when this is all over. Cure (shutting down the economy causing 20% unemployment) is worse than the problem (Saving at risk groups of population), if you ask me.I can only assume you have no older loved ones that you care about or who care about you. Only a total piece of shit would spew this filth. Hey asshole, things are about to open back up. Plenty dead already. Too bad you weren't one of them.
MontyCliff
04-21-20, 21:35
I have never really cared for Mike DeWine, going back to his days as Greene Co prosecutor. So, it pains me to say this, but he has done right by Ohio on this. He's been out in front, and listens to the advice of the right people. Just wanted to throw something positive out there,. Can't hurt.
TechSticles
04-21-20, 21:40
There is plenty of pussy around. Not sure what you guys are complaining about.
if you ask me. We are way past there being any chance of overwhelming our healthcare system anymore. Lets get back to it folks!That's the cool part. No one did ask you. Most of us are listening to people that have a chance of knowing what they are talking about. Like medical professionals and scientists. I'm pretty sure you aren't either of those, slick. Now get out there and help thin that herd.
CincyHobbist
04-21-20, 22:12
I have never really cared for Mike DeWine, going back to his days as Greene Co prosecutor. So, it pains me to say this, but he has done right by Ohio on this. He's been out in front, and listens to the advice of the right people. Just wanted to throw something positive out there,. Can't hurt.His side kick Acton is a bit dramatic and over zealous! I would love to hear either one of them say "we erred on the side of the extreme based off of erroneous models! We are sorry for crashing the State economy!
Muncher2323
04-22-20, 07:08
That's the cool part. No one did ask you. Most of us are listening to people that have a chance of knowing what they are talking about. Like medical professionals and scientists. I'm pretty sure you aren't either of those, slick. Now get out there and help thin that herd.A+ use of "Slick" I'm glad to see it making a comeback.
JustACustomer
04-22-20, 08:03
That's the cool part. No one did ask you. Most of us are listening to people that have a chance of knowing what they are talking about. Like medical professionals and scientists. I'm pretty sure you aren't either of those, slick. Now get out there and help thin that herd.Rogerover and out.
JustACustomer
04-22-20, 08:09
I can only assume you have no older loved ones that you care about or who care about you. Only a total piece of shit would spew this filth. Hey asshole, things are about to open back up. Plenty dead already. Too bad you weren't one of them.More people have died from car accidents or slip and falls, heck, from being shot, than from the Corona virus. Do you think we should stop driving? I would link data for you, but I am sure there are others who will do it faster. Wrecked economy from this forced altruism and can't even get routine healthcare right now. Seriously.
More people have died from car accidents or slip and falls, heck, from being shot, than from the Corona virus. Do you think we should stop driving? I would link data for you, but I am sure there are others who will do it faster. Wrecked economy from this forced altruism and can't even get routine healthcare right now. Seriously.Yet ANOTHER ignorant and stoopid post. You are now in the top 5 for stoopid posts of all time.
I have never really cared for Mike DeWine, going back to his days as Greene Co prosecutor. So, it pains me to say this, but he has done right by Ohio on this. He's been out in front, and listens to the advice of the right people. Just wanted to throw something positive out there,. Can't hurt.Dewine is what our party USED TO BE. Solid republicans that use intelligent and science. I miss who we used to be.
Now, we are overtaken by unintelligent zombies who watch foxnews all the time and never bother to actually discern fact from conspiracy.
I agree with INeedaName. The president, who by the way has done a phenomenal job managing the economy, our military, and our borders, has wrestled with this decision to open the economy. And at some point, he has an obligation to balance the needs of health and economic sustainability.
There are so many factors. And I disagree with the flip flop comment a few posts down. Name one. What I like about the airing of the daily briefings is that you get to see what he actually said, and the context. Not what CNN Said and their out of context airplay.
Let's not forget. This is a president ho is doing this job for a dollar a year. He is the same president who paid for a Jewish boy to have surgery overseas on his own dime. And has paid the college education of many kids, other than his own. Give the guy a break. Instead of finding ways to criticize, during this time, find the positive in what's going on, and the magnitude of the decision he must make.The president has done a horrible job of managing everything. Period.
Flip flops? Name one? You mean in the last hour? Or the last 10 minutes?
"give the guy a break", he can only lie so long in four years, and thank god sanity returns next January.
Goodwill, YOU are in the top 3 for Stoopidest posts of all time. What a moron.
The president has done a horrible job of managing everything. Period.
Flip flops? Name one? You mean in the last hour? Or the last 10 minutes?
"give the guy a break", he can only lie so long in four years, and thank god sanity returns next January.
Goodwill, YOU are in the top 3 for Stoopidest posts of all time. What a moron.So sad so many are so filled with hate for our president that you can only repeat the same crap most of the media pushes. Trump closed travel to and from China while he was being impeached (100% partisal even though Dems said it had to be bipartisan), and now claim he was slow to respond. This virus is a total unknown and hindsight will show we got lots of things wrong. The biggest point to remember, the world has it because China lied.
BarnesMike32
04-22-20, 09:38
So sad so many are so filled with hate for our president that you can only repeat the same crap most of the media pushes. Trump closed travel to and from China while he was being impeached (100% partisal even though Dems said it had to be bipartisan), and now claim he was slow to respond. This virus is a total unknown and hindsight will show we got lots of things wrong. The biggest point to remember, the world has it because China lied.Thanks for the laugh! Look at how the governors or even our VP handle pressers about the status of COVID-19 and compare those with what Trump does. Cuomo was asked yesterday about NY's unemployment claim system failures and he admitted that NY's system collapsed. But he also explained that NY has hired 1,000 people to man phonelines to get people's claims handles. Had Trump gotten a 'gotcha' question like that he would not have known what steps were being taken to address the situation, would have accused the reporter of asking a nasty question, and would have blamed Obama. I know my critique is falling on deaf ears so, go on, continue to humor me.
Is it the end of the hobby?? I'm getting worried. The hobby has been going down hill in my opinion. Now with this pandemic it has got even worse. The selection of quality women worth visiting has been going down steadily over the past few years. Now the site has went down with no word on what's going on plus the ads were getting slimmer and slimmer to begin with. From what I see and read it seems 95 percent of list crawler women are either untrustworthy, bad hygiene, or just drugged out not attractive at all. It seems like unless you want to pay a ridiculous amount for a decent provider you're screwed. I don't have the budget anymore to risk a terrible encounter with ones with no reviews or anything. I need a sure thing when I make an appointment. Iv had far too many bad experiences taking a chance on random ads. I don't like to be negative but the overall selection is so bad right now. Hopefully steve can work his magic when things calm down and get us another " " "julliete" "brookee " "lindsee "types. Those were my favorite! They were quality and appropriate rates at the time. Anyways iv seen more 'snap chat premium' and onlyfans girls talk about "meets" but iv never came across one that I trusted enough to actually visit. Most of them want cash app deposit and I just don't trust it. Idk maybe that's where the hobby is going. Idk. LOL.
Is it the end of the hobby?? I'm getting worried. The hobby has been going down hill in my opinion. Now with this pandemic it has got even worse. The selection of quality women worth visiting has been going down steadily over the past few years. Now the site has went down with no word on what's going on plus the ads were getting slimmer and slimmer to begin with. From what I see and read it seems 95 percent of list crawler women are either untrustworthy, bad hygiene, or just drugged out not attractive at all. It seems like unless you want to pay a ridiculous amount for a decent provider you're screwed. I don't have the budget anymore to risk a terrible encounter with ones with no reviews or anything. I need a sure thing when I make an appointment. Iv had far too many bad experiences taking a chance on random ads. I don't like to be negative but the overall selection is so bad right now. Hopefully steve can work his magic when things calm down and get us another " " "julliete" "brookee " "lindsee "types. Those were my favorite! They were quality and appropriate rates at the time. Anyways iv seen more 'snap chat premium' and onlyfans girls talk about "meets" but iv never came across one that I trusted enough to actually visit. Most of them want cash app deposit and I just don't trust it. Idk maybe that's where the hobby is going. Idk. LOL.It's not that quality ladies are getting more expensive; but rather quality ladies have always been less expensive in Cincinnati compared to the same level at other similar sized cities. Cincinnati has been spoiled, and sticker shock is about to set in when prices even out. $20 street walkers will always be available. However, what you won't see much anymore are the $150 cute collegiate co-ed looking for weekend play money. Word of mouth about sites like Tryst and Seeking have shown them a price rate well above the $150 we've come to expect.
So, in the future, I predict more mongers will need to decide, play more for less quality vs. Play less with higher quality. That or get another source of income to bridge the gap.
So sad so many are so filled with hate for our president that you can only repeat the same crap most of the media pushes. Trump closed travel to and from China while he was being impeached (100% partisal even though Dems said it had to be bipartisan), and now claim he was slow to respond. This virus is a total unknown and hindsight will show we got lots of things wrong. The biggest point to remember, the world has it because China lied.Jeh is in the top 5 Stoopid posts of all time. Congratulations.
Trump did NOT close travel from China. If you stop watching fox you will find out that close to 45,000 people have been flown in from China since his so-called ban.
TechSticles
04-22-20, 12:37
Still didn't see a named flip flop there.
If Obama was giving multihour conferences everyday and spending the majority of time on coronavirus the media would be fawning all over him.
The point of the mitigation was to prevent the overwhelming of our health care system, not to stop cases or deaths. The point was to flatten out the curve, but that doesn't necessarily stop the number of overall cases under the curve, an impossible task and goal anyway.
Our governors have taken their mandate and gone overboard with it. They have lost sight of the true goal and become absolute authoritarians. This still is supposed to be the United States where we have a right to freedom and privacy. We have to manage our own risks. Why does Kroger's and Walgreens get to be open but the guy running his own business has to go broke? Aren't the inside of the stores essentially the same environment with the same risk? Here you go. Wave it while you get out there and thin the herd.
TechSticles
04-22-20, 12:43
More people have died from car accidents or slip and falls, heck, from being shot, than from the Corona virus. Do you think we should stop driving? I would link data for you, but I am sure there are others who will do it faster. Wrecked economy from this forced altruism and can't even get routine healthcare right now. Seriously.Here's some of that darwinism for you.
Man Who Called Ohio's Lockdown Order 'Bullshit' Has Succumbed To COVID-19.
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/04/man-who-called-ohios-lockdown-order
Marion man dies after contracting coronavirus.
https://www.marionstar.com/story/news/2020/04/16/coronavirus-marion-ohio-man-dies-case-count/5145803002/
More people have died from car accidents or slip and falls, heck, from being shot, than from the Corona virus. Do you think we should stop driving? I would link data for you, but I am sure there are others who will do it faster. Wrecked economy from this forced altruism and can't even get routine healthcare right now. Seriously.I didn't check the other causes of death you mentioned but look at these.
More Covid deaths (46,000) than last year's auto deaths (38,000).
https://www.nsc.org/road-safety/safety-topics/fatality-estimates
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
LL.
More people have died from car accidents or slip and falls, heck, from being shot, than from the Corona virus. Do you think we should stop driving? I would link data for you, but I am sure there are others who will do it faster. Wrecked economy from this forced altruism and can't even get routine healthcare right now. Seriously.I checked the others. According to these sites, Covid still wins.
https://www.nsc.org/work-safety/safety-topics/slips-trips-falls
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/16/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
More people have died from car accidents or slip and falls, heck, from being shot, than from the Corona virus. Do you think we should stop driving? I would link data for you, but I am sure there are others who will do it faster. Wrecked economy from this forced altruism and can't even get routine healthcare right now. Seriously.That is the most asinine argument ever. Sad thing is, people who make that comparison think they're being smart. It's idiotic.
Jeh is in the top 5 Stoopid posts of all time. Congratulations.
Trump did NOT close travel from China. If you stop watching fox you will find out that close to 45,000 people have been flown in from China since his so-called ban.You keep saying 45,000 people have been flown in etc. Since you keep saying the same thing over and over with nothing to support what you're saying I'll help you out. Those individuals were exempt from the restrictions because they were either American citizens, USA Passport or green cardholders. Non-citizen relatives were also permitted to enter the USA, an exemption made by the president to prevent the separation of families. You act like they just let anyone in. If they banned those people from returning home the Liberals would go ape shit. Nothing is perfect and the ban saved lives. If they didn't do the ban he'd be called an agent of China.
TechSticles
04-22-20, 15:08
I didn't check the other causes of death you mentioned but look at these.
More Covid deaths (46,000) than last year's auto deaths (38,000).
https://www.nsc.org/road-safety/safety-topics/fatality-estimates
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
LL.
I checked the others. According to these sites, Covid still wins.
https://www.nsc.org/work-safety/safety-topics/slips-trips-falls
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/16/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/The post you are responding to is just a sound bite from faux news. They don't actually check facts there. But then again, they don't need to.
Katmandu6999
04-22-20, 15:21
His side kick Acton is a bit dramatic and over zealous! I would love to hear either one of them say "we erred on the side of the extreme based off of erroneous models! We are sorry for crashing the State economy!I'd like to bang her but would have to put my hand over her mouth! Can't listen to that voice! How about them apples!
The post you are responding to is just a sound bite from faux news. They don't actually check facts there. But then again, they don't need to.When you have a cult of zombie followers who have no intellect why would you need FACTS?
ROTFLMAO!
CincyHobbist
04-22-20, 18:36
I'd like to bang her but would have to put my hand over her mouth! Can't listen to that voice! How about them apples!I would love to bend her over and take it hard to her. A ball gag would be an essential item!
His side kick Acton is a bit dramatic and over zealous! I would love to hear either one of them say "we erred on the side of the extreme based off of erroneous models! We are sorry for crashing the State economy!You misspelled, "we leaned towards the side of caution to save as many lives as we can". There, I fixed it for you.
TechSticles
04-22-20, 20:49
Thanks for the laugh! Look at how the governors or even our VP handle pressers about the status of COVID-19 and compare those with what Trump does. Cuomo was asked yesterday about NY's unemployment claim system failures and he admitted that NY's system collapsed. But he also explained that NY has hired 1,000 people to man phonelines to get people's claims handles. Had Trump gotten a 'gotcha' question like that he would not have known what steps were being taken to address the situation, would have accused the reporter of asking a nasty question, and would have blamed Obama. I know my critique is falling on deaf ears so, go on, continue to humor me.Stupid fuck trump's entire MO could be summed up in this riff. Sadly, it's not just his sycophantic supporters that will go down with him.
Stupid fuck trump's entire MO could be summed up in this riff. Sadly, it's not just his sycophantic supporters that will go down with him.Trump's M. O. Can be summed up in two sentences. Take credit for someone else's success. Deflect blame if things go wrong.
WanderingAbout
04-22-20, 22:59
has something to say to all you herd thinners.
https://imgur.com/gallery/bYwn5BP
There is plenty of pussy around. Not sure what you guys are complaining about.
I guess fellow hobbyist are too old and not in the best of shape if you are worried about this. Same for providers. Long overdue for a culling of the herd. Will take some of the strain off of our healthcare system too when this is all over. Cure (shutting down the economy causing 20% unemployment) is worse than the problem (Saving at risk groups of population), if you ask me. We are way past there being any chance of overwhelming our healthcare system anymore. Lets get back to it folks!This virus affects all age groups, not just old and not just others with co-morbid conditions. The healthcare system is not overwhelmed because we all self-quarantined, which reduced person to person contact by probably 60%. New studies just out recently make this virus even more devastating that first thought, because they are finding patients without the common signs of dry cough, fever. That are having complications of damage beyond the lungs that include kidneys, liver, brain, eyes, etc. Science and math probably were not your best subjects in school. Please look up the example of the effect of doubling using one drop of water in Shea stadium. You would be the person thinking at minute 41 hey I might need to do something. Whereas, those educated in the effect of doubling know that minute 10 is when you can save the most lives. Get back to us please.
Stupid fuck trump's entire MO could be summed up in this riff. Sadly, it's not just his sycophantic supporters that will go down with him.Just be pissed that you put up 2 far more unelectable candidates in Clinton and now Biden. The Dems would have the easiest election ever if they'd run someone who was in line with Bill Clinton, but he's much further right than any of the candidates this time around.
There is plenty of pussy around. Not sure what you guys are complaining about.
I guess fellow hobbyist are too old and not in the best of shape if you are worried about this. Same for providers. Long overdue for a culling of the herd. Will take some of the strain off of our healthcare system too when this is all over. Cure (shutting down the economy causing 20% unemployment) is worse than the problem (Saving at risk groups of population), if you ask me. We are way past there being any chance of overwhelming our healthcare system anymore. Lets get back to it folks!As a 65 year old in excellent shape (biked 40 miles yesterday) and as a scientist and health care professional, I can only say.
Fuck you. And I'd be willing to suspend social distancing guidelines to make the point more clearly in person.
The good dr.
You keep saying 45,000 people have been flown in etc. Since you keep saying the same thing over and over with nothing to support what you're saying I'll help you out. Those individuals were exempt from the restrictions because they were either American citizens, USA Passport or green cardholders. Non-citizen relatives were also permitted to enter the USA, an exemption made by the president to prevent the separation of families. You act like they just let anyone in. If they banned those people from returning home the Liberals would go ape shit. Nothing is perfect and the ban saved lives. If they didn't do the ban he'd be called an agent of China.The point is that Trump fucked up by the numbers SINCE that point. But of course his supporters will seize on the fact he did one thing not totally wrong and ignore the 99% of his efforts which were and are disastrous.
Tgd.
This virus affects all age groups, not just old and not just others with co-morbid conditions. The healthcare system is not overwhelmed because we all self-quarantined, which reduced person to person contact by probably 60%. New studies just out recently make this virus even more devastating that first thought, because they are finding patients without the common signs of dry cough, fever. That are having complications of damage beyond the lungs that include kidneys, liver, brain, eyes, etc. Science and math probably were not your best subjects in school. Please look up the example of the effect of doubling using one drop of water in Shea stadium. You would be the person thinking at minute 41 hey I might need to do something. Whereas, those educated in the effect of doubling know that minute 10 is when you can save the most lives. Get back to us please.Thank you, you made all the (correct) intellectual points for me, freeing me to make the emotional one. Be safe!
The good dr.
WanderingAbout
04-23-20, 11:13
All day. All night. Left. Right. Yada yada yada. It all comes down to this.
https://i.imgur.com/eW6oCaC.gifv
All day. All night. Left. Right. Yada yada yada. It all comes down to this.
https://i.imgur.com/eW6oCaC.gifvLife. Or death.
I'm pro-life.
TechSticles
04-23-20, 17:46
All day. All night. Left. Right. Yada yada yada. It all comes down to this.
https://i.imgur.com/eW6oCaC.gifvStudy: Elderly Trump voters dying of coronavirus could cost him in November - POLITICO
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/23/how-coronavirus-could-upend-2020-battlegrounds-204708
Maybe we should just give them what they want. LIBERATE! LOL.
You mention me for no reason you know nothing about me or who I see at all. Keep your fucking cheap shots to yourself you dumb fuck!
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