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TheBrestMan
01-14-19, 22:59
So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?
WanderingAbout
01-15-19, 00:49
Suing Columbus Police alledging her strip club arrest was politically motivated.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/stormy-daniels-files-suit-against-ohio-officers-who-arrested-her.amp
So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?"Real" or "an app" number, it's just another number. The speed at which you two meet is determined by how desperate she is, not the number. Take the same precautions as you have no idea who is on the other end. Don't text anything incriminating and for heaven's sake, if you do meet, don't pay until after the deed.
Sir LanceLicksalot
01-15-19, 09:17
Her next step is to start the "I don't want to see anyone else but you game. ".
Which leads to any number of stories all crafted to get money from you.
Since you say that you two have never hooked up, I think she is setting you up for more than you are bargaining for.
Call her bluff. Tell her you want to "be with her" or you are moving on. She will either go crickets or see you and then start asking for money. If either happens, just block both numbers and move on.
So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?
So, I've been trying to see this girl that use to post on USA and has since just never kept posting, but I still have her number and keep trying to see her. She'll occasionally respond, and in hopes that we'll be able to work out a matching schedule. I always reply to keep things moving. I've been in the hobby about 10 years and have never had this happen: the other day she randomly gave me her "real" number because she responds faster on that since her other number is a texting app. The reason she would rather get back with me faster is that she hopes we'll be able to meet up soon because she's fallen on hard times (which I know is a common story of many providers that are trying all they can to get you to come see them asap). Everything she's said about herself seems to add up. The area she says that she's from matches up with exact locations. Also, her pictures aren't over-the-top (obviously fake). I've never had a provider give me a number I didn't ask for, but I'm hoping that helps me get into see her sooner. Any advice or opinions?I have gotten personal numbers from several I've been a regular of. It keeps them from having to weed through a bunch of bullshit and time wasters to get to someone serious about meeting. But I've ever gotten one from someone I've never met. My advice is to follow the advice in the posts below.
LL.
TheBrestMan
01-15-19, 16:24
Thank you all for your ideas and help. I figured I'd try to see her at least once to see what happens, but I'll keep caution in my back pocket. She just has 'that' body type I have a hard time saying 'no' to.
"I was reenacting Tommy Boy. ".
Nice story, but I think most wives are going to give the same look of skepticism that Skylar gave Walter when he told that tale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIC9_k40U
Based on that? $300/ hr? Serious? Does she have two pussies?Ouch, or maybe I have two jobs?
... I'll definitely be making an appointment for this one and will post a review immediately but that might be too late for most of you. Just letting you other Latina and / or big tittied and / or eros fans know that one is coming to town, they're not terribly frequent and when they do come to town I think it's not a bad idea to encourage business so more of them will come back (as opposed to the crap we usually get) ...
Her name is Lina Lara. She wants $400 for the hour but a 30 min deal for $250, and hell, no way I'm lasting a full hour if she's any good at all. I'd be lucky to last 20 minutes if we skip the small talk.
Good luck!
We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, My god I can get 5 to 6 providers for that. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.
We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, My god I can get 5 to 6 providers for that. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.
What the fuck is that? Didn't know there was a price list for a fair market value or a instruction manual on how to price providers for a fair market value. Anyone have one I would like to see it. LOL Or can we go to the stock market and find it or a auction. Come on get real. A deal is what you pay for and if that provider pleased you and gave you satisfaction. Lenny6746.I'm pulling for you. Stick to your guns and one day we'll all be fucking unicorns for free.
We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, 189,407.54. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.
I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.
And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.
Well said.
Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.
I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.
And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.
Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.
I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.
And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.I think the car analogy said it best. Can I afford a Mercedes? Yes. Am I willing to pay that amount? No. Not worth it to me. But it obviously is to someone else or else they'd lower the price.
LL
You all changed my mind I think every one of you should pay 500 per HH. To every provider you meet. Hell its only fair. As they say PUSSY is PUSSY. Its all good. LOL and I will watch you all go broke happy. Give them The 500 and I bet they love you long time! Until the next one walks in LOL Lenny6746.
And this, my friends, is what we call the wonderful experiment of capitalism. Well said.
Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.
I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.
And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.
SinsinnatiToy
01-17-19, 16:35
I will admit that I am the weirdo here. Very simply I believe a woman should be paid for what activities and performance rather than a set amount for a period of time. Since I do longer dates of 5 hours, I want a lot of action. Very simply if a woman does not agree to my bonus system and wants a fixed 160 to 200 then I wish them well and say goodbye. I am not willing to spend more than 100 per hour just for a woman's time, but I offer set bonuses for the things I want in addition to the price for her time. If a woman wants to fulfill bonus items, such as a fixed amount for each type of nut I get, it is not uncommon for woman to make 700 to a 1000. This way she gets paid for the service provided and is an incentive for her to work harder, not for just an amount of time. Just an old man with his strange way of doing things.
ST.
Tried a game once.
1st pop $50.
2nd pop $75 so 125 total.
3rd pop $100=225.
4th would have been 125=350 but I tapped out gave her 300 for the effort. Was a great day. Man I need a return trip to Vegas.
WhereDreamsGo
01-18-19, 09:02
That boycott thing gets talked about often over the years, and it doesn't work. Either way. This business doesn't lend itself to cartels. Pussy and horny dudes are both in vast supply.
It's really pretty easy though. Ask a price. If it seems right, do it. If not, decline. If she's willing to bargain, you'll hear that pretty quickly.
There are some nuances. Some will quote you one price, then raise it subsequently. In many cases, this is a cop test actually, and you should never go along with it because it makes you look like a cop. It's actually, BTW, a better cop test than the standard "cop a feel first" test on site. Or the even stupider "are you a cop?" question. Guess what? They're allowed to lie. They're allowed to slip their schlongs into the girls if it's "necessary" to make the case. Most of these cases will never see anything but a preliminary hearing anyway, and they're probably just layering on a charge for plea leverage of some kind or to make a quota. But I digress.
Either way, being agreeable to paying an outrageous rate can mark you as a potential cop for the savvier providers. Unfortunately, this isn't ironclad. I have heard some of the cops will bargain just to appear legit.
Legally, I believe you are better off not initiating an offer. Practically, I'm not sure it makes much difference, because once you're in the grasp, cops will just lie or where possible manufacture evidence.
PUSSY is not one of them nor do they control the market We do. The two words are YES and NO. They have a right to charge whatever they can get. We have the right to say no. Do we need PUSSY some do most if you think about it DON'T. Do they need your dollars. Hell yes. The sooner men figure that out the better. They need to pay rent, put food on the table, buy clothes, pay utilities keep a decent room to work out of pay for transportation, feed and clothe their kids, ETC, ETC, ETC. Most guys with loose wallets and deep pockets don't give a shit. They see good looking pussy they go shit crazy. There are ladies who will bargain just like men will. Part of the game. So when men figure out who REALLY controls the game, they will become better shoppers. DO YOU REALLY think most of the ladies out there doing this for a living can go out and make a 100 an hour at a REGULAR job? HELL NO. But most want a hundred to 150 l or more for an hour to fk you blow you or all of the above. Think about it. Ladies choice to ask what she wants. Man's choice to say yes or no. Simple as that my friends.
Your very long winded, but 100 percent accurate. I wouldn't of took the time to say all that, but I respect you did.
I have nothing what so ever to offer this discussion.
Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.
I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.
And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.
The unfortunate part of this trade is you don't really know if you're getting a good deal til it's too late in most instances. I have only walked away once prior to engagement because I didn't anticipate the value I was looking for per menu and looks. The key is to be open and honest and plan your future around weather you feel you get good value. Negotiate future visits if the services were of you're liking. I usually add a tip if services were good and pricing was fair, or I'll let her know I didn't feel I got my moneys worth. The good ones, the smart ones, know this.
Rather than call for some stupid boycott, Mongers should post quality reviews including menu items and pricing, unless the providers request not.
Member #6319
01-19-19, 10:18
We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, My god I can get 5 to 6 providers for that. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.To you. Totally subjective.
I got a dollar blowjob once. It was actually a solid 8 of 10 for technique. That said, I'd happily pay 300-400 to erase the memory of the face I put my willy in.
On the other hand, there is a young woman local to me that I am absolutely mesmerized by. I wouldn't hesitate to give her $500 for an hour, just to let her sit there naked and talk to me. I think if she would actually let me bone her I would pay $1000 or more.
This is coming from a dude that doesn't make much money by anyone's standard.
Can't regulate personal motivation.
To you. Totally subjective.
I got a dollar blowjob once. It was actually a solid 8 of 10 for technique. That said, I'd happily pay 300-400 to erase the memory of the face I put my willy in.Made me laugh. Thanks.
It totally was. A stiff dick has dosent care what it fucks Bravo Bravo! Puts us all in the same boat. Lenny6746.
I don't believe I ever said anything like that. This got out of hand. I'm stating a fact that average and below average think they are goddesses rate performance. I met a provider over a year ago. She was actually not my type at all. She had lost alot of weight, Her tits were a 40 FF. She had a great personality so I stayed. OMG One of the best fucks I ever had she came 9 timed wit my dick and 4 with my mouth. We took a break and went at it again. 1 hr for 100 used the full hour fucking. Most of these self proclaimed Goddeses Charge alot more for alot less fucking. Thats my *****. Lenny 6746.
I don't believe I ever said anything like that. This got out of hand. I'm stating a fact that average and below average think they are goddesses rate performance. I met a provider over a year ago. She was actually not my type at all. She had lost alot of weight, Her tits were a 40 FF. She had a great personality so I stayed. OMG One of the best fucks I ever had she came 9 timed wit my dick and 4 with my mouth. We took a break and went at it again. 1 hr for 100 used the full hour fucking. Most of these self proclaimed Goddeses Charge alot more for alot less fucking. Thats my *****. Lenny 6746.Or 150 and some give a nice discount at 2 hrs for 2 total. Most are overpriced though. Again how many ladies in the "real" world can make a 100 an hour even with a college degree and most from not being on their backs for an hour or with a talented mouth. How many do we have to worry about that no show or postpone postpone postpone until you just leave. How many don't even wake up until after noon yet give their hours from 7:30 until 11 midnight. It is all about service vs promising the moon to get you in the door then shorting you time after the first pop but not telling you the parameters. Ask questions. If you can't get what you are willing to pay for don't give them the business. That simple. You are paying for what YOU want. Get what you want for your dollars. If not give them a review and move on. If you want the "forbidden" fruit, do it PM. Works for me and has for over two decades. Have a good week and hope this snow goes away so I can get to some ladies in Ohio for some "serious forbidden fruit". The doctor SO NEEDS TO BE IN. LOL.
Started looking in Dayton The cinci providers got nothing for me. Found one in Dayton with good rates and and seem good with the right prices. I've looked at Dayton before and nothing. Ita worth the drive I will report after our session Lenny 6746.
I don't believe I ever said anything like that. This got out of hand. I'm stating a fact that average and below average think they are goddesses rate performance. I met a provider over a year ago. She was actually not my type at all. She had lost alot of weight, Her tits were a 40 FF. She had a great personality so I stayed. OMG One of the best fucks I ever had she came 9 timed wit my dick and 4 with my mouth. We took a break and went at it again. 1 hr for 100 used the full hour fucking. Most of these self proclaimed Goddeses Charge alot more for alot less fucking. Thats my *****. Lenny 6746.I agree with you lenny. Most girls that work the cincy area are over priced trash bags. Its getting sad out there.
Does anybody think RogerOver is ever coming back? I know most probably hated his public persona, however, I found him to be cordial and quite helpful in a couple of the backchannel exchanges that I had with the guy.
RIP RogerOver. The Lord called you home much too soon or at least should have been watching over you when you entered into the valley of death known as The Rat Trap of Orlando.
He was a total dickhead, glad I don't see his rants everyday on every subject that he had no idea what he was talking about. Stay burried Roger, or if you don't at least be kind enough and just head back to your 'friends' at The Rat Trap.
Did I do him in?
Wasn't my intention that he go away forever. After all, he WAS a fellow Vet!
Come on back Olive Oyl, just don't be such a dickhead next time.
I suspect that due to embarrassment he may have started over with a new name?
CincyKayak
01-25-19, 16:43
Glad you had a good time and she really looks hot, but she is way outside of the budget of the mongers on here. If a woman charges more than $150 an hour for BBFS she is "too pricey. ".
Too bad, the other sites are gone where people who see women that charge a rate higher than a SW can be reviewed without being lambasted by other hobbyists.
Maybe there should be a forum called "High Dollar Hotties" where women who charge more that $200 can be reviewed without guys giving the reviewer a hard time because he "paid too much. ".
You know the math doesn't work in the "bargain hunters" favor. Three hours wasted (sending out multiple PMs and texts to multiple women takes time) to see a woman for $150 equals actually about $600. If the woman charges $150 times the 3 hours it takes to get a solid appointment plus the $150 for the appointment actually is more expensive than the lady who charges $250 and it takes a half hour of time to set up and her $250 rate. That equals $375 for a total of 1. 5 hours of effort, including the time to get your nut off versus $600. Many will say that they don't care about their time, but I respect myself and put a value on my effort.
I am tired of bargain basement hunting. When I have seen women under $250 lately, I have been disappointed. Not on time. Unwashed. BF / Pimp lurking in the hallway. Messy rooms. In one case I got a dose of Chlamydia from a woman's BBBJ. Add the $250 for the doctor and meds and I should have seen the $400 lady. Maybe she wouldn't have given me "something to remember. " Don't ask me who, because I don't know, it could have been one of three.
When I started in the hobby 30 years ago, $150 was average or a little high. The ladies weren't on drugs (maybe some were drunk) and they were on time and squeaky fresh. Many had candles, music and greeted me at the door in lingerie instead of dirty sweat pants and T-shirt. So after 30 years of inflation, is $200-250 such a bad deal for a woman who will bend over backwards to actually see you?
Probably should have posted this in the Octagon. I know the "bottom feeders" will attack me as a white knight. I really don't care, I am tired of their attitude anyway.You make a valid points. It would be nice to have a "high dollar hotties" board. I'd rather have quality than quantity. I like variety but there are too many local ladies that just seem kinda, well, nasty.
With the law last year it is difficult to find a provider that is of quality; seemed easier before that. At least it appeared there were more ladies advertising and more of them communicated at least halfway decent.
A little more for a reliable, clean and trustworthy provider is reasonable to me.
ThatGuy011
01-25-19, 22:30
Pricing comes and goes as a hot topic on this board.
Pay what you think a girl is worth to you. Who YOU are is what determines that worth.
I've paid what you consider high rates; first FS experiences at a new AMP I typically tip. 1. As well their standard entry. That puts me at 140 for HH or 160 HR. Which, is above average. Of course once 'in there', I go to a sliding scale. Soon, I'm giving them as much as someone else gives for an HE. I've seen 2 USAA providers, made a deal for 2/3 of their HHR times putting me at. 8.
There is absolutely no reason to pay more than 'needed', it just seems like some guys just feel 'better' about themselves for outspending others and boasting about it. If you see a 350-500 girl, and can't afford to do it again until next month, then are you really 'better' as you think you are? Here's another thing, most mongers seeing 'higher priced' girls are also seeing cheap ones, while they are saving up their dollars, so the same issues can arise; he's playing with cheap girls and all the things they bring, and passing the buck to the expensive one. Costing more doesn't magically make them immune to getting bugs.
Everyone should do them, and that includes the white knights. I post my scale and what I pay and people get mad that I don't pay enough. That's just as bad as getting mad when other members pay 'too much'. Personally, I don't care what someone else pays, as I posted, I hear the words 'I ususally get XXX for this', while I've got her for 20, and based on looks, and knowing how other mongers are, I'd say they are correct. But again, only the person that determines that value is yourself. To you, she is TGTBT at any price, to me, she is TGTBT at 20, but she fucking did it.
And so you know where I'm coming from:
I have been doing this half my life, give or take. But when I started I was young enough for girls to get statutory charges for being with me.
I literally only want to cum. No kissing, no PSE, no GFE. My dick in hand, mouth or pussy. I'm not old, nor missing something in my life that they need to replace. Except a place to nut.
The only 2 regular USAA girls I've seen are LaceyF and DreadPricncess, and only reached out to similar; Shevelle, ect as these are the girls that if they were not hookers, would not look out of place next to me physically. They are literally 'just girls' I've literally never 'up-fucked' paying. The best girls on USAA or the street aren't an upgrade, and the average ones as well as most of who I use is a downgrade. Again, I just want to cum by a woman. At this point, it's just not worth much to me. As decades pass, that could change. But that's not case now, and I'll play accordingly.
You make a valid points. It would be nice to have a "high dollar hotties" board. I'd rather have quality than quantity. I like variety but there are too many local ladies that just seem kinda, well, nasty.
With the law last year it is difficult to find a provider that is of quality; seemed easier before that. At least it appeared there were more ladies advertising and more of them communicated at least halfway decent.
A little more for a reliable, clean and trustworthy provider is reasonable to me.Totally agree. I have seen a few travelling providers in the $$$ to $$ range that were mindblowing. Literally model gorgeous, crazy passionate, AND wide open menus. As a special bonus, several were also quite exotic (Brazilian or Columbian, love the accents! Always met at the door of a very nice hotel by a clean and perfectly made up young lady in hot but classy clothes or hot lingerie (or both! Always offered (and accepted) a shower first. And a memorable GFE / PSE experience top it off.
That said, a few local providers were VERY close to this, for a lot less $$. Ashleigh DD and Busty Red are two that jump to mind- miss them both. Probably the best still around for me are Sara Tonguetwister, Jesse Jane, and to some extent Kyla.
Below that. Well, you get what you pay for!
Ther good dr.
TheBrestMan
01-26-19, 12:28
I've been in the hobby going on 11 years. I've seen my share of the good and bad also with all sorts of types. The one thing I can't exactly put my finger on is what more accurately describes "GFE". I know what I would want it to be, but I guess my question for you all is: what do you all feel like it is? Something specific, or just a list of idealist things that differs from person to person. Thanks in advance for your input.
I'd rather have low dollar lookers that preform well. Whats good for me in looks may not be good for you. I don't like them with their war paint on their faces. LOL eyes yes. I don't pay for paint. Or fake boobs been there done that. Not worth it. Give me a girl that loves to fuck and moans while she's getting it I'm all in. Anyone have any Pm me. Lenny6746.
Pricing comes and goes as a hot topic on this board.
Everyone should do them, and that includes the white knights. I post my scale and what I pay and people get mad that I don't pay enough. That's just as bad as getting mad when other members pay 'too much'. Personally, I don't care what someone else pays, as I posted, I hear the words 'I ususally get XXX for this', while I've got her for 20, and based on looks, and knowing how other mongers are, I'd say they are correct. But again, only the person that determines that value is yourself. To you, she is TGTBT at any price, to me, she is TGTBT at 20, but she fucking did it.
And so you know where I'm coming from:
I have been doing this half my life, give or take. But when I started I was young enough for girls to get statutory charges for being with me.
I literally only want to cum. No kissing, no PSE, no GFE. My dick in hand, mouth or pussy. I'm not old, nor missing something in my life that they need to replace. Except a place to nut.
Anything like that guy.
In my world there would be kissing, mouth, face, neck body. Foreplay. Not just straight to the deed. Some flirty banter to start. Act like she enjoys you and why you're doing to her. Not rush you right out the door when finished. Pamper and dote on you a little. Clean you up afterwards. Like she's happy to see you, happy to have you and glad when you come back.
I've been in the hobby going on 11 years. I've seen my share of the good and bad also with all sorts of types. The one thing I can't exactly put my finger on is what more accurately describes "GFE". I know what I would want it to be, but I guess my question for you all is: what do you all feel like it is? Something specific, or just a list of idealist things that differs from person to person. Thanks in advance for your input.
In my world there would be kissing, mouth, face, neck body. Foreplay. Not just straight to the deed. Some flirty banter to start. Act like she enjoys you and why you're doing to her. Not rush you right out the door when finished. Pamper and dote on you a little. Clean you up afterwards. Like she's happy to see you, happy to have you and glad when you come back.Certainly what you describe is what many of us would desire; I certainly would. However, I would term it more like an upscale GFE; maybe GFE+.
I think these days the term "GFE" is used more to describe what is allowed or acceptable. For example, there would be kissing and BBBJ at a minimum, just like you might expect a regular girlfriend to provide.
But what you describe, I think, is more of not just "what" is provided, but also more of "how" it is provided.
Some women may describe themselves as "GFE girls", but won't kiss you like they mean it, or like they too enjoy it; and even though they may provide a BBBJ, they won't put much into it. It means so much more, at least to me, when I feel like the woman too is truly enjoying what she's doing, and not just going through the motions!
Just sayin'.
ThatGuy011
01-27-19, 02:44
Anything like that guy.Hahaha.
You mean don't see the same girls for 2/3 or less than you pay?
Gotcha.
Did I do him in?
Wasn't my intention that he go away forever. After all, he WAS a fellow Vet!
Come on back Olive Oyl, just don't be such a dickhead next time.
I suspect that due to embarrassment he may have started over with a new name?After you called him out, he certainly has disappeared. What was interesting about him was while he had over 1000 posts, 98% of those posts were on this thread. Rarely did you read any reviews of ladies he was with, which is the purpose of this site.
Certainly what you describe is what many of us would desire; I certainly would. However, I would term it more like an upscale GFE; maybe GFE+.
I think these days the term "GFE" is used more to describe what is allowed or acceptable. For example, there would be kissing and BBBJ at a minimum, just like you might expect a regular girlfriend to provide.
But what you describe, I think, is more of not just "what" is provided, but also more of "how" it is provided.
Some women may describe themselves as "GFE girls", but won't kiss you like they mean it, or like they too enjoy it; and even though they may provide a BBBJ, they won't put much into it. It means so much more, at least to me, when I feel like the woman too is truly enjoying what she's doing, and not just going through the motions!
Just sayin'.I think these 2 posts collectively, pretty much nail it on the head for me. I've done this a long time, sometimes I think unfortunately, and I've had this type of woman. You'll usually have to pay the higher freight, though. Not always. And those that are like this at an unbelievably good rate and no drama are the unicorns I keep chasing, LOL. Which, in and of itself, winds up being more expensive than just paying the higher prices ones, right?
I called a provider who advertised GFE. She said what's that. A blond moment for sure. LOL. ITS GIRLFRIEND EXPERIANCE FOR THE PROVIDER AND THE MONGER. Whats that. Full kissing feeling each others body going down on her getting her ready. DTAY. Fingering her. Having her go down on you to get you hard. Sucking her tits and nipples. Licking her pussy then fucking her. Thats true GFE to me. I've had alot of providers do that with me. I don't like the get on get off shit. Lenny6746.
Did I do him in?
Wasn't my intention that he go away forever. After all, he WAS a fellow Vet!
Come on back Olive Oyl, just don't be such a dickhead next time.
I suspect that due to embarrassment he may have started over with a new name?Is that new name Yragyrag?
WhereDreamsGo
01-30-19, 13:09
Is that new name Yragyrag?For those intrepid enough to brave this cold, I think there are deals to be had today, probably stretching into tomorrow. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to take advantage today, but it's a good day to bargain.
HuntLadys29
01-30-19, 13:40
I haven't been posting any adventures because I haven't had any these girls are unreliable untrustworthy and unsavory thinking only of themselves. Example there is a girl that posted on here and listcrawler named Trixie she says she used to be part of Buddha's stable back in the day real thin chick with dark black hair I set a date with her for Monday on a Saturday I specifically said don't text me I'll text you Monday morning what does this chick do? She sends me a text from a different number saying Trixie here I ended up not seeing her Lacy who I've never seen I had contacted her before Christmas but didn't go through with the date texted me saying Hi this is lacy I'm available the girlfriend picked up my phone while I was on the toilet. We argued all day about that shit then Kelly texted me out the blue the very next day but I saw the text and immediately let her have it. I don't know which girls to trust or be discreet if I want strange they all seem to be thirsty and have their own adjenda. I think I'll just sit back and read for awhile and back up from the game I can't deal with most of these girls with no discression. Rant over. HL29.
Contacted a very well know board fave last week for an early morning massage. Explained that by a specific time that my window of opportunity would close as I had to do family stuff starting at noon. What do you think happened? 10 pm I get a text, as soon as I set my phone down and went upstairs for something. "Sorry honey, I was busy and my kid is sick and I have this and that and blah blah blah" why the fuck to I care what problems you have 12 hours after the time I wanted to schedule? And why the fuck ton they have to call you honey, babe and sweetie in texts? I swear most of them have not a lick of common sense. This is why I leave my phone on Do Not Disturb while I'm home most of the time. Rant over.
I haven't been posting any adventures because I haven't had any these girls are unreliable untrustworthy and unsavory thinking only of themselves. Example there is a girl that posted on here and listcrawler named Trixie she says she used to be part of Buddha's stable back in the day real thin chick with dark black hair I set a date with her for Monday on a Saturday I specifically said don't text me I'll text you Monday morning what does this chick do? She sends me a text from a different number saying Trixie here I ended up not seeing her Lacy who I've never seen I had contacted her before Christmas but didn't go through with the date texted me saying Hi this is lacy I'm available the girlfriend picked up my phone while I was on the toilet. We argued all day about that shit then Kelly texted me out the blue the very next day but I saw the text and immediately let her have it. I don't know which girls to trust or be discreet if I want strange they all seem to be thirsty and have their own adjenda. I think I'll just sit back and read for awhile and back up from the game I can't deal with most of these girls with no discression. Rant over. HL29.
Did I do him in?
Wasn't my intention that he go away forever. After all, he WAS a fellow Vet!
Come on back Olive Oyl, just don't be such a dickhead next time.
I suspect that due to embarrassment he may have started over with a new name?
Is that new name Yragyrag?If you had been keeping up with this thread you would know that I am the one who called him out months ago, and right after that he disappeared.
Use common sense. My name has 300+ posts; far from new!
JustForKicks63
01-31-19, 17:52
I'd rather have low dollar lookers that preform well. Whats good for me in looks may not be good for you. I don't like them with their war paint on their faces. LOL eyes yes. I don't pay for paint. Or fake boobs been there done that. Not worth it. Give me a girl that loves to fuck and moans while she's getting it I'm all in. Anyone have any Pm me. Lenny6746.I have seen high dollar providers ($400) and low dollar ($50) providers, some low dollar girls were good and some were terrible. I have had a similar experience with some high dollar girls also. The price you pay doesn't always coincide with the perceived value. Thats why when I read a mongers review of a girl I want to see, I go and read their reviews of other providers I have seen, to see if they are the same view as mine. I think we just need to give honest reviews of these girls then let the bad ones fade away.
Play safe.
JFK.
If you had been keeping up with this thread you would know that I am the one who called him out months ago, and right after that he disappeared.
Use common sense. My name has 300+ posts; far from new!We ALL did, drama is what keeps the fight thread alive! But you know this in this age of sock accounts, who knows what is real and what is fabricated. ONLY the SHADOW knows.
WhereDreamsGo
02-01-19, 05:07
I haven't been posting any adventures because I haven't had any these girls are unreliable untrustworthy and unsavory thinking only of themselves. Example there is a girl that posted on here and listcrawler named Trixie she says she used to be part of Buddha's stable back in the day real thin chick with dark black hair I set a date with her for Monday on a Saturday I specifically said don't text me I'll text you Monday morning what does this chick do? She sends me a text from a different number saying Trixie here I ended up not seeing her Lacy who I've never seen I had contacted her before Christmas but didn't go through with the date texted me saying Hi this is lacy I'm available the girlfriend picked up my phone while I was on the toilet. We argued all day about that shit then Kelly texted me out the blue the very next day but I saw the text and immediately let her have it. I don't know which girls to trust or be discreet if I want strange they all seem to be thirsty and have their own adjenda. I think I'll just sit back and read for awhile and back up from the game I can't deal with most of these girls with no discression. Rant over. HL29.Dude, you're going to have to get a monger phone or an app with a different number you can use with do not disturb (google voice with a different number than your main one will work, but if your girlfriend is in your phone, she'll probably find this.) We can rant all we want about discretion, but unless you're really seeing a small number of highly responsible providers, you're unlikely to get that.
I'm thinking this is the right place to open this. Over the years when using a condom there often seems to be a very unpleasant odor that happens, usually towards the end. I've always blamed it on her personal hygiene. I saw a review of a active regular provider in Kentucky where the client was complaining about this and the provider was claiming it was from condoms. So, a few days ago I got a chance to hook up with a dancer from one of NKY's so called "strip joints" that I've wanted to fuck, after foreplay she asked if I had a condom, I did, gave it to her, she unwrapped it then went off to wash it. She tell's me "I can't go home to my dude smelling like condoms". We fucked, no foul odors. Anyone else heard of this? Got on google and there seems there is some truth to this, one thread recommending polyurethane, polyisoprene (and Crown w / no latex odor condoms.
So for all these years was I wrongly calling these women Suzi rotten crotch when it was really Smelly Ass Condom Syndrome? Anyone else heard of this? Beware of the SACS!
Peace out JJ.
I'm thinking this is the right place to open this. Over the years when using a condom there often seems to be a very unpleasant odor that happens, usually towards the end. I've always blamed it on her personal hygiene. I saw a review of a active regular provider in Kentucky where the client was complaining about this and the provider was claiming it was from condoms. So, a few days ago I got a chance to hook up with a dancer from one of NKY's so called "strip joints" that I've wanted to fuck, after foreplay she asked if I had a condom, I did, gave it to her, she unwrapped it then went off to wash it. She tell's me "I can't go home to my dude smelling like condoms". We fucked, no foul odors. Anyone else heard of this? Got on google and there seems there is some truth to this, one thread recommending polyurethane, polyisoprene (and Crown w / no latex odor condoms.
So for all these years was I wrongly calling these women Suzi rotten crotch when it was really Smelly Ass Condom Syndrome? Anyone else heard of this? Beware of the SACS!
Peace out JJ.There's only one real test for the theory. Next time, check for odors BEFORE, during foreplay. Then wrap up for the main event. Check for odors after.
Odors come from bacteria, same as the odors from your arm pits (different bacteria, but same principle). The bacteria eats the normally odorless salts in body fluids. In turn, they POOP out waste, and that's what causes the smell. So higher bacteria, more smell. The conditions in the vagina is perfect for cultivating bacteria; moist, warm, with an abundance of body salts for food. Douching kills and flushes the bacteria, but they will come back eventually.
I'm thinking this is the right place to open this. Over the years when using a condom there often seems to be a very unpleasant odor that happens, usually towards the end. I've always blamed it on her personal hygiene. I saw a review of a active regular provider in Kentucky where the client was complaining about this and the provider was claiming it was from condoms. So, a few days ago I got a chance to hook up with a dancer from one of NKY's so called "strip joints" that I've wanted to fuck, after foreplay she asked if I had a condom, I did, gave it to her, she unwrapped it then went off to wash it. She tell's me "I can't go home to my dude smelling like condoms". We fucked, no foul odors. Anyone else heard of this? Got on google and there seems there is some truth to this, one thread recommending polyurethane, polyisoprene (and Crown w / no latex odor condoms.
So for all these years was I wrongly calling these women Suzi rotten crotch when it was really Smelly Ass Condom Syndrome? Anyone else heard of this? Beware of the SACS!
Peace out JJ.Absolutely. Magnums are the worst. I have gone down on many women and they taste and smell fine. Then after having intercourse they smell and taste funny. Also many women say want me to wash off after wearing one for my CIM finish.
UOnlyLiveOnce
02-03-19, 08:08
It's been so long since I've gotten laid without a condom that I'm starting to forget what it's like. I don't do DATY, but I often mess around in that vicinity before doing the main event, and it's been a while since I've seen a provider who had a bad odor prior to the deed. I usually notice some odor after the deed that I would attribute to the condom use. It's not a bad odor, it's just different. Using wipes after the fact helps some.
With all seriousness, some of you guys couldn't google your way out of a wet paper bag! You should really work on your research skills.
One of you fuck sticks recently posted asking for the address of the AMP named Sakura because in your research you couldn't find it. Guess what? You didn't put in any effort! A smart monger who knows that he needs to add some context to his search finds his happy ending instead of a restaurant for a steak dinner.
Bad Monger: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sakura+cincinnati.
Good Monger: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sakura+asian+spa+cincinnati.
The same could also be applied to another discussion going on this morning about whether a person is or is not in the custody of her least favorite uncle. Instead of casting doubt on MrNails and the accuracy of his posts have you thought about attempting to confirm it? I am not sure why you think you need to because MrNails seems to specialize in these types of posts and is always spot on in the accuracy of his words. But still, if you think you must then continue reading.
Bad Monger: But wait, I don't know how to look up girls that might be visiting their uncle.
Good Monger: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+find+people+in+jail+in+cincinnati+oh.
Click the first site that the search provided and click "view all inmates". MrNails gave you the info you need to find her. Use control + f key to "find" the arrest date that he gave you. Guess fucking what? The Good Monger just found the Bad Kookie and it only took the second click on that date.
Bad Monger: But what if she was in a Northern KY jail?
CeeNote (Good Monger): Be a good monger and go figure it out.
I met a provider from EROS about 6 months ago at 10 pm at night. Everything was shower fresh, but her twat smelled of rubber and fish. Not a horrible smell, just odd. Though I don't DATY. Being from Florida and doing an Ohio tour, I assumed she had been with multiple guys that day and even though she took a shower, she didn't douche that rubber / latex spell out. My 2 cents. JP.
MikeMichigan
02-04-19, 13:06
Chill out.
Purpose of the forum is to share information not shame each other. I found several sites that had lots of inmates, but without a name I was stumped. I don't think looking up "Bad Kookie" was going to pull up the inmate in question. Thus my question.
Lots of time spent on a situation that doesn't concern anyone. Answer or not answer. Question was legit. I am only posting this response to encourage those to continue to ask, and not let someone with hundreds of posts and some cute computer skills to intimidate.
This isn't real life, this is our hidden monger life.
With all seriousness, some of you guys couldn't google your way out of a wet paper bag! You should really work on your research skills.
One of you fuck sticks recently posted asking for the address of the AMP named Sakura because in your research you couldn't find it. Guess what? You didn't put in any effort! A smart monger who knows that he needs to add some context to his search finds his happy ending instead of a restaurant for a steak dinner.
Bad Monger: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sakura+cincinnati.
Good Monger: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sakura+asian+spa+cincinnati.
The same could also be applied to another discussion going on this morning about whether a person is or is not in the custody of her least favorite uncle. Instead of casting doubt on MrNails and the accuracy of his posts have you thought about attempting to confirm it? I am not sure why you think you need to because MrNails seems to specialize in these types of posts and is always spot on in the accuracy of his words. But still, if you think you must then continue reading.
Bad Monger: But wait, I don't know how to look up girls that might be visiting their uncle.
Good Monger: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+find+people+in+jail+in+cincinnati+oh.
Click the first site that the search provided and click "view all inmates". MrNails gave you the info you need to find her. Use control + f key to "find" the arrest date that he gave you. Guess fucking what? The Good Monger just found the Bad Kookie and it only took the second click on that date.
Bad Monger: But what if she was in a Northern KY jail?
CeeNote (Good Monger): Be a good monger and go figure it out.
Chill out.
Purpose of the forum is to share information not shame each other. I found several sites that had lots of inmates, but without a name I was stumped. I don't think looking up "Bad Kookie" was going to pull up the inmate in question. Thus my question.
Lots of time spent on a situation that doesn't concern anyone. Answer or not answer. Question was legit. I am only posting this response to encourage those to continue to ask, and not let someone with hundreds of posts and some cute computer skills to intimidate.
This isn't real life, this is our hidden monger life.He is a respected senior member. He is only trying to teach you and others to fish information on your own. There are lazy mongers that come on here every now and then and expect to be fed every morsel. It gets old. Mr. Nails is always spot on with his reports. I'm not exactly sure how he finds all the info, but he does. Try to remember reading with a glass half full attitude and things would be a lot easier.
Chill out.
Purpose of the forum is to share information not shame each other. I found several sites that had lots of inmates, but without a name I was stumped. I don't think looking up "Bad Kookie" was going to pull up the inmate in question. Thus my question.
Lots of time spent on a situation that doesn't concern anyone. Answer or not answer. Question was legit. I am only posting this response to encourage those to continue to ask, and not let someone with hundreds of posts and some cute computer skills to intimidate.
This isn't real life, this is our hidden monger life.Intimidate or educate? I guess it depends on the thickness of your skin. I have nothing to do with developing lmgtfy.com, but it does convey a rather strong visual message. We tend to remember and learn from memorable, hands-on situations more so than having the information handed to us.
Had it been another day I might have wanted to circle up and sing Kum By Yah. But I wasn't liking the stance being taken that info posted by MrNails must not be accurate if we don't have the means to fact check it on our own. Sorry MikeMich if you became collateral damage because the post was more about that than not knowing how to find it.
Please, you or anyone else, ask all the questions you want. And for the record, my comment had no bearing on anyone's post count. It is more along the lines of the old adage about teaching a monger to fish. The "fuck stick" who couldn't find Sakura is currently wintering down in Florida. I think Bob's got nearly 2,000 posts under his belt so I am at least being an equal opportunity intimidator. By the way, isn't he down there fishing?
WhereDreamsGo
02-05-19, 17:58
You should have stated the increase was nominal in your initial report. She didn't double the rate or anything crazy. I do agree she should not change after it is set. But now you got the el cheapo crowd that dominates this market going crazy. No wonder hot chicks bypass Cincy often as they go to Columbus and Cleveland without fail.
Guys listen, pay for what you can afford and leave better looking, better performing. Better, better, better for those of us that can.
I have met Allurah once and will go back. And especially since she is a smart enough as a business person to understand supply and demand. Her product is in demand she can ask for more. God Bless America!If a provider raises rates or changes any other material part of the deal while you're in transit, it's probably time to bail. Personally, I figure if she's pulling something like that, it's either a cop test or a patsy test that I fail if I go along, since I don't want to look like either a cop or a patsy. And all those smart, beautiful businesswomen with high rates, we know most of them will eventually turn up on the McMick stroll someday when the hunger for dogfood gets intense enough. But maybe if they can find more of the likes of GSpotPhun or find their way to those El Dorado paradises of Columbus and Cleveland, they can put that day off as long as possible.
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.Thanks for sharing Glock. I'm sure if Heaven would travel to Cincy / NKY she'd get a warm reception. I haven't seen pussy lips like those since, well, ever. Got any anatomical close ups?
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.F. ing awesome!
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.That looks like a half a pound of ham at the deli!
JustACustomer
02-06-19, 17:05
That looks like a half a pound of ham at the deli!I would eat that in one sitting too!
Lotsoffun201
02-06-19, 17:40
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.Great shot and a pretty lady. Wonder if she'd ever consider coming out west?
Great shot and a pretty lady. Wonder if she'd ever consider coming out west?Another reason to travel to Menphis.
Dillsborodave
02-06-19, 20:42
That looks like a half a pound of ham at the deli!I love ham but I bet I doesn't taste like ham.
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.Making us all jealous, Glock! Did you happen to get a 47-megapixel closeup of that sweet giner?
Try to talk her into visiting Cincy for a week!!
I love ham but I bet I doesn't taste like ham.You're right. She doesn't taste anything like ham. Not even honey baked ham. She tastes sweeter than honey. 😛.
PartyTimeGuy
02-07-19, 06:25
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.Helluva pic! Definitely my kind of MILF. Damages?
Making us all jealous, Glock! Did you happen to get a 47-megapixel closeup of that sweet giner?
Try to talk her into visiting Cincy for a week!!I did take this one but it is not my usual style. It's not 47 MP either. To get the BJ shots, I switch to my 18-55 mm lens which is more nimble and focuses closer. I took this shot after the bbbjcim. It is a DX lens though, so the Nikon D850 switches from full frame FX mode to DX mode because that lens will not cover the full FX frame. The D850 cuts the resolution down from 47 MP to 19 MP when a DX lens is attached, the same resolution as my Nikon D500. She has a big giner and the shots are not photoshopped. The only thing I did was to take my fingers and spread her out more while rubbing her clit a little. It's a tuff tuff job but some poor bastard has to do it. She is a very thin lady but is nearly 6 feet tall. A nice package overall.
MikeMichigan
02-07-19, 12:56
I did take this one but it is not my usual style. It's not 47 MP either. To get the BJ shots, I switch to my 18-55 mm lens which is more nimble and focuses closer. I took this shot after the bbbjcim. It is a DX lens though, so the Nikon D850 switches from full frame FX mode to DX mode because that lens will not cover the full FX frame. The D850 cuts the resolution down from 47 MP to 19 MP when a DX lens is attached, the same resolution as my Nikon D500. She has a big giner and the shots are not photoshopped. The only thing I did was to take my fingers and spread her out more while rubbing her clit a little. It's a tuff tuff job but some poor bastard has to do it. She is a very thin lady but is nearly 6 feet tall. A nice package overall.Love it.
Anyone else hungry for a nice roast beef sandwich? Meat curtains for sure.
Glock,
I am envious of your portfolio. Wish I had known of you the one time I did visit Memphis so you could point me in a good direction.
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.
UOnlyLiveOnce
02-07-19, 15:31
Just don't get it. Texted back and forth with one today that I've never seen before. She quoted me her rate, which I thought was kind of high for her, but I agreed to it. She told me which hotel. We agreed on a time. Then she wanted me to stop on my way to the appointment and buy her a soft drink. I told her I'm not her damn personal shopper and I cancelled the appointment.
I was familiar with her location, there are a shit ton of restaurants and gas stations right by there. Get a cheap umbrella for $5 and go fetch your own snack. I might be more agreeable to such requests from a provider I know. Otherwise, for a chick I've never seen and who is charging on the high end anyway, the only things I'm bringing are the donation and protection, no matter how many times the chick calls me "sweetie. ".
It's been so long since I posted on the Octagon that many of you have probably decided that I died and went to heaven. Well, I'm still alive but last Friday I was in Heaven. Heaven Love that is. Heaven is a traveling lady MILF from Alabama who just turned 40! I have seen her before and she looks better than ever. I actually saw her in North Mississippi rather than Memphis. I don't really know Cincinnati very well, but I'm guessing that North Mississippi is to Memphis like NKY is to Cincinnati. We were close to Elvis' birthplace and she is an Elvis fan. This photo was taken with my Nikon D850, generally considered to be Nikon's best camera although not Nikon's most expensive. At 47 megapixils, the resolution is outstanding. The 24-120 mm lens is also kind to the ladies. And she was kind to me. Meets all of my well known requirements.I could spend hours playing with those lips!!
I looked at the ads in Dayton and for the first time ever I thought the providers looked better than what we have in Cincy.
This would be worth the drive and a hotel.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=76267&cityid=353
HuntLadys29
02-08-19, 06:11
Just don't get it. Texted back and forth with one today that I've never seen before. She quoted me her rate, which I thought was kind of high for her, but I agreed to it. She told me which hotel. We agreed on a time. Then she wanted me to stop on my way to the appointment and buy her a soft drink. I told her I'm not her damn personal shopper and I cancelled the appointment.
I was familiar with her location, there are a shit ton of restaurants and gas stations right by there. Get a cheap umbrella for $5 and go fetch your own snack. I might be more agreeable to such requests from a provider I know. Otherwise, for a chick I've never seen and who is charging on the high end anyway, the only things I'm bringing are the donation and protection, no matter how many times the chick calls me "sweetie. ".And I hate the word sweetie & babe I'm neither one to these chicks. HL29.
WhereDreamsGo
02-08-19, 09:21
I looked at the ads in Dayton and for the first time ever I thought the providers looked better than what we have in Cincy.
This would be worth the drive and a hotel.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=76267&cityid=353It really doesn't look any better, especially when you consider that USAAC is the only real choice there at this point, since Listcrawler doesn't have a Dayton section. Really, for whatever other problems we have, we should appreciate the wide range of reasonably priced choices in Cincinnati. Believe me. I look elsewhere at times. We have it good. I'm willing to concede that the selection of sliced ham and other deli meats in Memphis presented here look pretty good at times too. I'm not sure I'm man enough to monger in Memphis though without packing a gun, which I really don't want to do.
EloquentEven
02-08-19, 09:47
I hate to beat a dead horse, but I just can't "shop" at the EE store when you can't even window shop. I've heard good generalized info about some of the girls from other posters here, but unless I can see a face, I can't consummate a transaction. I know many people disagree, and I'm not "hating" on the service. I'm glad many people are satisfied with it. But with a slightly higher hourly rate and no pics, I have to vote with my feet. Other places.As I have told this monger before and for anyone else who would like face pics etc:
1. Contact me directly with your request.
2. If you are not a previous client then you will need to go thru the a simple screening process.
3. Receive pics and enjoy!
Face pics are not posted for safety and privacy reasons. Also my regular clients know I do not even post New / UTR ladies.
Thanks EE.
It really doesn't look any better, especially when you consider that USAAC is the only real choice there at this point, since Listcrawler doesn't have a Dayton section. Really, for whatever other problems we have, we should appreciate the wide range of reasonably priced choices in Cincinnati. Believe me. I look elsewhere at times. We have it good. I'm willing to concede that the selection of sliced ham and other deli meats in Memphis presented here look pretty good at times too. I'm not sure I'm man enough to monger in Memphis though without packing a gun, which I really don't want to do.I have seen this young lady three times. And hopefully will see her again. She is a beautiful, intelligent woman. Not quite GFE, but well worth the donation (a little higher than usual in this area). But money well spent. A great evening compared to some of the other local options.
And I hate the word sweetie & babe I'm neither one to these chicks. HL29.When they start the "sweetie, honey, babe" shit I almost always decide not to see them. It tells me there is probably something pretty sketchy about them.
When they start the "sweetie, honey, babe" shit I almost always decide not to see them. It tells me there is probably something pretty sketchy about them.I wish they'd use my name instead of the titles, but it really doesn't bother me. I think many of them do it simply because it's become automatic for them. In fact, I've sometime found myself using it on them. Oh well.
UOnlyLiveOnce
02-09-19, 13:22
Here is my take on the issues ToddCincy wrote about in his post (#17934) in the USA Classifieds thread:
Limited shelf life of providers: I've never seen the provider he mentioned (TaylorNicole), but yes, I agree the hobby is pretty hard on most providers after a while. Even for the relatively drama free providers who do not appear to have major issues such as IV drug use, it's hard to lead a double life for an extended period.
Cheapness of mongers: Some of us, including me, don't have a monger budget big enough to indulge in the Eros level chicks, but find the streetwalker scene at the other end of the scale too high risk for a multitude of reasons. So, some of us, including me, make do the best we can with what we have.
Low monger self-esteem: I wouldn't say I have low self-esteem, but I do kind of resent the fact that the only action I'm getting is in the hobby. Women in everyday life get more and more insufferable with each passing year. I can't imagine being a young single guy in my 20's today. At the same time, I'm glad the hobby, facilitated by this forum, allows me to indulge in young women I would have no chance of hooking up with in real life.
I don't know whether this is specifically caused by self-esteem, but I too get frustrated with some of the gushing reviews of providers that do not appear to be justifiable. It cracked me up several months ago when guys were saying Busty Red had lost some weight (when she was already slender to begin with) because of working out. Um, no. She lost weight because of drugs. I know, as I saw her right before she dropped out of sight.
Low quality providers driving out high quality providers: I can't really speak to that, as I've rarely seen the high-donation providers. I do know that young, very attractive women tend to not stick around long because they normally have options.
The thing is as One provider on listcrawler says ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY. Thats the title to her ad. I will take a 80 to 100 girl over a 300 to 500 girl any day of the week. They don't have to be beautiful I prefer the common girl look any how. They are harder to find but they are out there. I don't mind looking for them and in my opinion they preform better anyhow. Lenny6746.
Bobby Linn
02-09-19, 21:23
As I have told this monger before and for anyone else who would like face pics etc:
1. Contact me directly with your request.
2. If you are not a previous client then you will need to go thru the a simple screening process.
3. Receive pics and enjoy!
Face pics are not posted for safety and privacy reasons. Also my regular clients know I do not even post New / UTR ladies.
Thanks EE.As anyone who has ever visited with any of the ladies from EE, Steve is very upfront and accomadating with supplying pics including face pics. As a matter of fact I contacted him today and requested pics of one of his newer ladies. Within a couple of minutes I had 3 great pics of Anna. Very hot looking young lady, I was just a little late in contacting him to meet her today! Great service in MHO.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-09-19, 23:41
....Cheapness of mongers: Some of us, including me, don't have a monger budget big enough to indulge in the Eros level chicks, but find the streetwalker scene at the other end of the scale too high risk for a multitude of reasons. So, some of us, including me, make do the best we can with what we have....
Everyone has a budget, that is a fact. But bargain shopping will drive the better, slightly higher priced providers away from USAAC. One key reason is the fact that many mongers can't read. Or they believe that the rates posted in a lady's ad are "just the opening offer in a negotiation. " I know one woman whose posted rate was $250 an hour. Most of the members here think that is "GPS High. " But in reality it is actually what in other markets would be a deal.
She has had to go back and forth with mongers trying to negotiate her down to a $60 QV (though that is not an option in her ad) or they agree to her rate and then cancel after she has paid the money for a room. We complain of the "my phone died" or "my kid got sick at school" excuses that we know are really the provider's way of attempting to book more men in the time she has to get her next fix. The ladies also hear lame excuses, "something came up at work" or "I was in a car wreck" or the ultimate bull shit of "you didn't answer my text" which all translate to the monger getting a cheaper price from someone else and either NCNS her or cancelling in less than an hour prior to their appointment.
There is a reason that the Cincinnati Gold Standard for hookers, Sarah Tonguetwister doesn't advertise on USAAC. She would NEVER put up with that bull shit. The last time I saw her was about 4 years ago and I gladly paid $250 for an hour. I haven't seen her since, but I would think that she is commanding a higher rate now. Though from what I know of her, she is probably quite happy seeing two guys a day for a total of $500. This allows her to spend time with her family and pursue her real passion of art.
If prostitution or should I be politically correct and sex work were legal and it was controlled by licenses, regular drug testing and STD testing I would hazard a guess that 95%+ of the ladies on USAAC could not get a license. Most are former Backpage and Craig's List SWs with phones. That is why we hear so many complaints about poor communication, poor hygiene and horrible incalls.
If I started a User Group where guys could post only about woman who charged $250 and higher, I bet that there would be only a few posts a month. Those who see the ladies for what they are and seek a higher quality lady are finding them elsewhere. Of course they are also the mongers who NEVER post, just lurk. I guess they feel that posting is beneath them. They suffer the rip-offs quietly which allows others to be scammed just as they were.
Sorry for the extended rant, but isn't that what the Octagon is for? Guys you only have to look in the mirror to see why most of the good women aren't advertising on our sister site.
Everyone has a budget, that is a fact. But bargain shopping will drive the better, slightly higher priced providers away from USAAC. One key reason is the fact that many mongers can't read. Or they believe that the rates posted in a lady's ad are "just the opening offer in a negotiation. " I know one woman whose posted rate was $250 an hour. Most of the members here think that is "GPS High. " But in reality it is actually what in other markets would be a deal.
She has had to go back and forth with mongers trying to negotiate her down to a $60 QV (though that is not an option in her ad) or they agree to her rate and then cancel after she has paid the money for a room. We complain of the "my phone died" or "my kid got sick at school" excuses that we know are really the provider's way of attempting to book more men in the time she has to get her next fix. The ladies also hear lame excuses, "something came up at work" or "I was in a car wreck" or the ultimate bull shit of "you didn't answer my text" which all translate to the monger getting a cheaper price from someone else and either NCNS her or cancelling in less than an hour prior to their appointment.
There is a reason that the Cincinnati Gold Standard for hookers, Sarah Tonguetwister doesn't advertise on USAAC. She would NEVER put up with that bull shit. The last time I saw her was about 4 years ago and I gladly paid $250 for an hour. I haven't seen her since, but I would think that she is commanding a higher rate now. Though from what I know of her, she is probably quite happy seeing two guys a day for a total of $500. This allows her to spend time with her family and pursue her real passion of art.
If prostitution or should I be politically correct and sex work were legal and it was controlled by licenses, regular drug testing and STD testing I would hazard a guess that 95%+ of the ladies on USAAC could not get a license. Most are former Backpage and Craig's List SWs with phones. That is why we hear so many complaints about poor communication, poor hygiene and horrible incalls.
If I started a User Group where guys could post only about woman who charged $250 and higher, I bet that there would be only a few posts a month. Those who see the ladies for what they are and seek a higher quality lady are finding them elsewhere. Of course they are also the mongers who NEVER post, just lurk. I guess they feel that posting is beneath them. They suffer the rip-offs quietly which allows others to be scammed just as they were.
Sorry for the extended rant, but isn't that what the Octagon is for? Guys you only have to look in the mirror to see why most of the good women aren't advertising on our sister site.It seems like these arguments about rates never end. A lot of it is pretty interesting and I appreciate all the opinions. Here's mine: A lot of guys (BTBear touched on it, above) always want to compare the "cheap" or "bargain" rates of Cincinnati to other cities. Well, we don't live in other cities--we live in Cincinnati. Real estate is cheaper here than lots of other places too. Good for us! Let's face it, this is still a somewhat conservative town in a lot of ways. We cringe at ball players making "outrageous" salaries that people in NYC, Boston, Chicago and LA don't think are outrageous at all. Apparently, that same attitude extends into the mongering lifestyle here as well. I say if we're lucky enough to have "bargain" rates around here, hallelujah! And if that means we only get "bargain" providers and high-end, top-notch girls avoid us because of it, well, there's not much we can do about it. Personally, I think there's some pretty nice girls around here and the fact that we're getting "bargain" pricing from them makes them even nicer IMO. I fall into the "conservative" end of things money-wise so even if the high-priced girls came to town I wouldn't see them because they're out of my budget. For you guys who WOULD pay those prices, I feel for you but, unfortunately, it is what it is.
ThatGuy011
02-10-19, 02:54
Everyone seems to be speaking for everyone else.
People accuse me of being cheap. But If I go to an AMP and get FS for up to 1.4-1.6, for HHR, haven't I paid much higher than the average here? I mean, I've gone to 2 AMP's in one night multiple times, and those trips put me well above the average. Of course once they've seen me and remember, it does go lower. I've gotten the board AMP fav for. 4, and another old fave for free. I saw one AMP lady twice in 3 days, and talked her super low because 'I've just seen you, I need to take it easy on the wallet' Could I afford it and regular donation? Yes. I wouldn't take the trip if I couldn't, but if she buys it, why would I pay more?
Also I've said a million times USAA advertisers are the same girls you find on the street, just with a room and a phone, and I know I'm not the only one that sees random unicorn SW's. I may be the only one giving good looking unicorn SW's 20 for 'all in' but I'm not the only one that sees them. I will never pay USAA prices for a girl whose level can be had for 20. And again, the better looking girls are still average to guys that are reasonably young and in shape. In Cincinnati, there isn't a girl that I would say I'm 'up-fucking' and that's another reason I'm not paying big bucks average. I have it at home, and she looked damn good before she had my kid, and a wham bam thank ya ma'am, is much easier to deal with than a side piece, because you have to lie to them too, and they may be motivated to ruin your actual relationship if they find out, depending on how they feel about you.
Also, if the offerings aren't great, that's not the fault of the mongers. Young actually pretty girls were common before 2014, even if they were dope heads, it wasn't H like it is now, and 21 year olds looked 19, ect, like they should. 25 year olds, didn't look 50. Heroin is the reason there is no quality. Because everyone complaining about the 'bottom' would not pay more than 50 for the girls from a few years ago, and would be elated not to have to.
Pussy is worth a different amount to different people, some people, it may be because what they can afford, others, such as myself, it just doesn't have worth. I'll spend good to get 'in' at an AMP, and once I'm there, it's going lower, and lower because I can. When I'm old and gross (If I'm gross) then sure, I'll be up-fucking, and will have to pay that premium. Once the novelty of fucking Asians wears off, I won't care about that either. Kim may have been close to twice my age, and Jenny was okay with a good body, not up-fucking. Also something like South American travelers. Not going to pay big bucks for them, because I could go to their shithole countries and get them next to nothing. Them traveling here doesn't make them worth anymore.
So don't assume, and I guess I won't assume almost everyone else is a guy that no one would touch for less than 250.
...So don't assume, and I guess I won't assume almost everyone else is a guy that no one would touch for less than 250.I think I might be that guy.
Sunny brightens up a rainy day in Memphis.
Dillsborodave
02-11-19, 19:24
Sunny brightens up a rainy day in Memphis.In the face she looks like Kelly McDonald from the movie " no country for old men".
The way I have experienced these things is choosing between a budget restaurant and a fancy restaurant. The food might as well be the same, but the right fancy restaurant enhances the experience.
I had two fav providers from P411 and traveling companions that I used to drop 700 for 2 hours. They were mindblowing. Upscale hotels. Designer shoes, lingerie. Always fresh. Intelligent. True educated professionals.
One of them used to contact me frequently whenever she was planning to come in/around cincy and offer to make a trip to see me. She did come from Columbus for a three hour session. No surcharges. *it has stopped as I usually don't see providers anymore.
The other one showed me her public life and I was floored. She would be someone you would chase to date and get married.
Same example for massages. I usually go an AMP once a week. But once every 6-8 weeks I go see my legit therapist for 160 dollars for 2 hours and it works well for me.
The local fare. Least to say. I have been burnt more than I have enjoyed. Serious case of YMMV in cincy. On a regular day, I would walk by someone like Divine Rachel and not notice (maybe. Or I might be suffering from GDS). But try to setup an appointment and you would think that you are dealing with Aphrodite.
The only two local providers that mostly treated me well and I would go back to were Busty red and Sexii Lexii.
I don't think this discussion will ever end, but I had days where I was happy with 2-3 visits to an AMP and one upscale provider. Usually an out of town one, so I would not be tempted to keep going back.
Everyone should do what they do. What I don't think is cool that smitten people starting to drive the price up themselves as they are enamored by the provider.
Ob.
In the face she looks like Kelly McDonald from the movie " no country for old men".Yes, she does.
I been the posts from the THREE REASONS WHY To SUPER2017. Come on now. What a crack of crap. Most providers don't like other providers anyhow. Why They are afraid the other will steal their clients. MONEY LOSS TO THEM. Low end or high end that's what its about. Low end girls are driving the highend away Horseshit. Go to steve s agency. I've never used one or ever will. Don't need it. I've had very few bad experiances With as you call it low end girls. Very few. I don't do walkers. High end girls I guess are okay but I just don't see the point With the high volume of good decent providers we have here on USA and LISTCRAWLER I've been doing this a long time and believe me. The Dayton market is also good. Lenny 6746.
Tickle Jay
02-13-19, 05:13
After reading the thread in the USA Classified forum, I wanted to comment, so I'm moving here instead. Lots of comments about Sarah TT, and I saw her about 6 years ago. Great communication, awesome incall, and very sweet. The one thing that I missed, tho, was the lack of eye contact. I had noticed the same with Delicious Dawn, and more recently Chrissy Lynn. There have been some over the years who really knocked me out with their sessions, including a girl named Buffy who would visit occasionally from Columbus, a few of Buddha's girls, Rachel and Sasha, and one of the high dollar ladies from escorts dot com, who turned out to be a porn star.
But it's frustrating that the market today has hit some new lows. Some of the published pics have made me want to pull the trigger, but then I read a couple of bad reviews, or have a text convo, and that desire goes away. As it stands now, I have to think of excuses for out of town trips in order to get some playtime in. REALLY looking forward to Dallas this spring, and there's someone else about a 4 hour drive away who I am dying to see. She usually travels to Columbus, but mostly on weekends.
I'd love to find a UTR or SB close by. Thinking about ramping up my efforts to do that after the Texas trip.
After reading the thread in the USA Classified forum, I wanted to comment, so I'm moving here instead. Lots of comments about Sarah TT, and I saw her about 6 years ago. Great communication, awesome incall, and very sweet. The one thing that I missed, tho, was the lack of eye contact. I had noticed the same with Delicious Dawn, and more recently Chrissy Lynn. There have been some over the years who really knocked me out with their sessions, including a girl named Buffy who would visit occasionally from Columbus, a few of Buddha's girls, Rachel and Sasha, and one of the high dollar ladies from escorts dot com, who turned out to be a porn star.
But it's frustrating that the market today has hit some new lows. Some of the published pics have made me want to pull the trigger, but then I read a couple of bad reviews, or have a text convo, and that desire goes away. As it stands now, I have to think of excuses for out of town trips in order to get some playtime in. REALLY looking forward to Dallas this spring, and there's someone else about a 4 hour drive away who I am dying to see. She usually travels to Columbus, but mostly on weekends.
I'd love to find a UTR or SB close by. Thinking about ramping up my efforts to do that after the Texas trip.Have fun in Dallas, I go there about once a month for a few days and all I can say is wow! And the AMPs are out of this world, they actually let you pick!
CactusIago
02-13-19, 08:35
The way I have experienced these things is choosing between a budget restaurant and a fancy restaurant. The food might as well be the same, but the right fancy restaurant enhances the experience.
I had two fav providers from P411 and traveling companions that I used to drop 700 for 2 hours. They were mindblowing. Upscale hotels. Designer shoes, lingerie. Always fresh. Intelligent. True educated professionals.
One of them used to contact me frequently whenever she was planning to come in/around cincy and offer to make a trip to see me. She did come from Columbus for a three hour session. No surcharges. *it has stopped as I usually don't see providers anymore.
The other one showed me her public life and I was floored. She would be someone you would chase to date and get married.
Same example for massages. I usually go an AMP once a week. But once every 6-8 weeks I go see my legit therapist for 160 dollars for 2 hours and it works well for me.
The local fare. Least to say. I have been burnt more than I have enjoyed. Serious case of YMMV in cincy. On a regular day, I would walk by someone like Divine Rachel and not notice (maybe. Or I might be suffering from GDS). But try to setup an appointment and you would think that you are dealing with Aphrodite.
The only two local providers that mostly treated me well and I would go back to were Busty red and Sexii Lexii.
I don't think this discussion will ever end, but I had days where I was happy with 2-3 visits to an AMP and one upscale provider. Usually an out of town one, so I would not be tempted to keep going back.
Everyone should do what they do. What I don't think is cool that smitten people starting to drive the price up themselves as they are enamored by the provider.
Ob.Your last statement in this is EXACTLY what is wrong with the Cincinnati specific board. But not for the reasons you think. The problem is not people driving up rates from subpar providers, the problem is you are driving away good (expensive) providers by acting like you should get a steak dinner at a McDonalds price. The most recent example I found of the problem, as I see it, is post #9872 in Jul of last year, and the conversation just before and after that post--not picking specifically on that particular poster. But the guys around it. When the guys in this area are negotiating for everything. INCLUDING negotiating with the travelling providers (That have a ton more sales experience and brand savvy the any of us will ever have) or even the good providers with a stated rate that rarely, or never come down from their rate. YOU are causing a situation where the only ladies that will put up with that kind of BS are the ones that HAVE to (the addicts, or the ones down on their luck that are engaging in survival sex). I GUARANTEE that the ladies that YOU say are good providers, Busty Red, Cincy Kyla, Brookee, are hearing this negotiating shit EVERY SINGLE TIME they do a booking--even with the establish mongers that are "looking for a deal" or "Hey you know I am a reliable guy". ANY girl that can get off of this board and go to P411, or Eros and find a better clientele has done so. And its OUR fault!! There are posts that say I'm only going to pay XXX for a BJ, or YYY for FS. When you make statements like that. Those rates ONLY exist in a SW, BP, or survival sex workers. The inevitable result will be that the higher end ladies will avoid this board like it is a plague. In order to stay the hell away from clients like that.
ThatGuy011
02-13-19, 11:56
Your last statement in this is EXACTLY what is wrong with the Cincinnati specific board. But not for the reasons you think. The problem is not people driving up rates from subpar providers, the problem is you are driving away good (expensive) providers by acting like you should get a steak dinner at a McDonalds price. The most recent example I found of the problem, as I see it, is post #9872 in Jul of last year, and the conversation just before and after that post--not picking specifically on that particular poster. But the guys around it. When the guys in this area are negotiating for everything.I'm here. I thought I'd be at the end of that tunnel.
Do they agree to these lower price? Yeah? Like I said back then, on them.
INCLUDING negotiating with the travelling providers (That have a ton more sales experience and brand savvy the any of us will ever haveYou're giving them far too much credit. They don't use savvy or anything else to make money, they use their body and biology to make money, and use their intuition about a customer to get leverage for a bigger pay out. I've already said this as well; a provider will have you pegged as someone that she can get a higher donation within a minute of meeting. She can use almost the same biological ques that she would use if you were actually courting. The only advantage they get is the natural one given by guys that are thinking far ahead with the little head before the big one even thinks, again something that they could pick if you were courting.
or even the good providers with a stated rate that rarely, or never come down from their rate.Never say never.
YOU are causing a situation where the only ladies that will put up with that kind of BS are the ones that HAVE to (the addicts, or the ones down on their luck that are engaging in survival sex). I GUARANTEE that the ladies that YOU say are good providers, Busty Red, Cincy Kyla, Brookee, are hearing this negotiating shit EVERY SINGLE TIME they do a booking--even with the establish mongers that are "looking for a deal" or "Hey you know I am a reliable guy". ANY girl that can get off of this board and go to P411, or Eros and find a better clientele has done so. And its OUR fault!! There are posts that say I'm only going to pay XXX for a BJ, or YYY for FS. When you make statements like that. Those rates ONLY exist in a SW, BP, or survival sex workers. The inevitable result will be that the higher end ladies will avoid this board like it is a plague. In order to stay the hell away from clients like that.Honestly, in Cincinnati is anyone of these typical that good looking, where they can just do whatever they want and get clients? I'll admit that I don't visit any sites other than here, and only look at links to other places when posted here, but I literally have never seen any women made out of unobtantium that is selling sex in this area. Regular girls walking, shopping, milling about, on average look better than providers that I have seen on here. As I have also said, the better ones, at best look like 'just some girl'. Normal people, have significant others that look at least at good as the better providers, and get to fuck for free. I didn't see a single provider for years until my lady gained baby weight, and then said something that I really didn't like regarding doing so. She was definitely better than these providers, including the ones I have seen, and those named.
Again, everyone is in this for something different. A lot of people similar to how you come off, may want everything out of these girls; a good incall, her to be wearing a certain fragrance, certain attire, that her feet be painted, that she has conversation before the deed, that she looks you in the eyes, tells you all the sweet little nothings you want to hear, that she kisses you like she loves you, that treats you like a man that she is in love with, that she enjoys your ministrations. I don't give a fuck about anything extra, we're not making love, I'm cumming due to your hand, mouth or pussy, thxkbye.
The self depreciation here is super strong.
Dillsborodave
02-13-19, 17:57
I have been reading a lot about quality lately and find it somewhat confusing. Are you talking about the quality of looks or the quality of performance? Does quality mean just younger women? Does quality mean a fair market price? Quality to me is a good looking woman of any age who will worship your cock and seems to enjoy fucking you for a fair price. I guess it's all subjective.
Is a provider in a dirty place.
Not being freshly showered.
Wearing dirty clothes or dirty sweats.
Not preforming the tasks agreed on.
Watching the clock.
Body odors especially down below.
Rushing to finish session the hurry up thing.
Some one knocking at the door.
Asking for a tip when they didn't preform well.
No cleanup after the session. Or nothing to cleanup with.
Thats just a few of them Lenny6746.
I have been reading a lot about quality lately and find it somewhat confusing. Are you talking about the quality of looks or the quality of performance? Does quality mean just younger women? Does quality mean a fair market price? Quality to me is a good looking woman of any age who will worship your cock and seems to enjoy fucking you for a fair price. I guess it's all subjective.If you know one like this please send me a PM with her name and number explanation point!
Golfguy, playing through.
I have been reading a lot about quality lately and find it somewhat confusing. Are you talking about the quality of looks or the quality of performance? Does quality mean just younger women? Does quality mean a fair market price? Quality to me is a good looking woman of any age who will worship your cock and seems to enjoy fucking you for a fair price. I guess it's all subjective.There are 400 per hr ladies 300 and 250,200, going down to 140 and 120 depending on services.
Cincinnati has one. She has a private incall, fully stocked bathroom, mirrors on the wall, outfits galore including outfits that make her look like.
I dream of genie, sex swing, massage table, full menu, Nuru rubs, sex bench, gorgeous body, long blonde hair, make up and blue eyes, smell great, awesome kisser, and enjoys sex like a man does.
Over the years I've seen her over 2 dozen times.
Non smoker. All that for 250 offers wine and if you make a longer appointment she will provide fruits and cheese.
Sara aka Tongue Twister is incomparable.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-13-19, 23:50
I have been reading a lot about quality lately and find it somewhat confusing. Are you talking about the quality of looks or the quality of performance? Does quality mean just younger women? Does quality mean a fair market price? Quality to me is a good looking woman of any age who will worship your cock and seems to enjoy fucking you for a fair price. I guess it's all subjective.It is all subjective. Guys on here want a 22 yo virgin provider who sucks dick like a Catholic girl, fucks like the ***** that she really is and works for $50 an hour. The reality is that no one is really happy with what they get.
If anyone would participate in the forum I would start a User Forum for "High Dollar Hotties" in which any woman at $200+ would be reviewed and discussed. I am afraid it would be useless like the "NCNS" forum I started that no one posted in.
Todd Cincy
02-14-19, 16:10
I have been reading a lot about quality lately and find it somewhat confusing. Are you talking about the quality of looks or the quality of performance? Does quality mean just younger women? Does quality mean a fair market price? Quality to me is a good looking woman of any age who will worship your cock and seems to enjoy fucking you for a fair price. I guess it's all subjective.Dillsboro Dave isn't "wrong". But I think there's a subtext here that is worth unpacking, that demonstrates where many of us differ on what quality means.
All of us read Playboy when we were adolescents, or at least saw it. That's the standard for "quality": conventionally attractive. Young, slender, and pretty. We all know it when we see it.
And for the most part, we ain't seeing it here of late.
Quality means not obese (like so many of the providers here are), and not "rough". (Or, in the case of many, both rough and obese.).
And no, I don't want them "of any age". Does that mean 40 is okay? 50? What about 60?
I want someone definltey under 30, preferably under 25, ideally between the ages of 18 and 22.
I've seen the reports from guys who say they prefer older providers, and I do not get this at all.
And I'm not a spring chicken myself. I was born when Lyndon Johnson was president, and came of age during the Reagan years. But I'm not looking for women my own age (or anywhere close to that) when I look for providers.
Nor am I picking out a potential girlfriend or wife. This is about fantasy, and my fantasies are pretty, fit, and *young*.
Ky Guy 123
02-14-19, 17:27
Dude, you're going to have to get a monger phone or an app with a different number you can use with do not disturb (google voice with a different number than your main one will work, but if your girlfriend is in your phone, she'll probably find this.) We can rant all we want about discretion, but unless you're really seeing a small number of highly responsible providers, you're unlikely to get that.Another suggestion, get in your phone settings and turn off texts popping up in banners with a sound. True, it may take a little longer to respond and will take diligence on your part to check texts more often, but it is WAY safer. There is no diehard need to know the second you get a text. And if anyone asks I have said that I play a phone game app where banners popping up on the screen causes the game to crash and my blood pressure to rise. My phone, my preferences, I will have what I want pop up or not dammit. LOL.
Jay.
JustACustomer
02-14-19, 19:09
There are 400 per hr ladies 300 and 250,200, going down to 140 and 120 depending on services.
Cincinnati has one. She has a private incall, fully stocked bathroom, mirrors on the wall, outfits galore including outfits that make her look like.
I dream of genie, sex swing, massage table, full menu, Nuru rubs, sex bench, gorgeous body, long blonde hair, make up and blue eyes, smell great, awesome kisser, and enjoys sex like a man does.
Over the years I've seen her over 2 dozen times.
Non smoker. All that for 250 offers wine and if you make a longer appointment she will provide fruits and cheese.
Sara aka Tongue Twister is incomparable.Sex Bench? WTF is that? LOL Goddamn it. Someone PM her number please.
Willow1535
02-14-19, 19:29
I agree with you 100%. If I am paying for it, I am looking for a fantasy girl. I am willing to pay for quality, but it is severely lacking in this area.
Dillsboro Dave isn't "wrong". But I think there's a subtext here that is worth unpacking, that demonstrates where many of us differ on what quality means.
All of us read Playboy when we were adolescents, or at least saw it. That's the standard for "quality": conventionally attractive. Young, slender, and pretty. We all know it when we see it.
And for the most part, we ain't seeing it here of late.
Quality means not obese (like so many of the providers here are), and not "rough". (Or, in the case of many, both rough and obese.).
And no, I don't want them "of any age". Does that mean 40 is okay? 50? What about 60?
I want someone definltey under 30, preferably under 25, ideally between the ages of 18 and 22.
I've seen the reports from guys who say they prefer older providers, and I do not get this at all.
And I'm not a spring chicken myself. I was born when Lyndon Johnson was president, and came of age during the Reagan years. But I'm not looking for women my own age (or anywhere close to that) when I look for providers.
Nor am I picking out a potential girlfriend or wife. This is about fantasy, and my fantasies are pretty, fit, and *young*.
Todd Cincy
02-14-19, 20:59
I agree with you 100%. If I am paying for it, I am looking for a fantasy girl. I am willing to pay for quality, but it is severely lacking in this area.This is another factor often cited as a reason for accepting providers who are over-the-hill, obese, or obvious drug users.
As I've mentioned before, I fled from a meeting with Pretty Cameron, because she reminded me of a bull dyke in a women's prison, and she had a gut overhanging her waistband.
I'd read rave reviews about her "performance".
Guys: I don't care. If a woman is completely unattractive / fat / etc, I don't care how "enthusiastic" she is. Just. No.
Likewise for Bad Kookie, who seems to have had a few too many cookies.
I've also read a lot of raves about Cristen Cremes. To me she looks rough and old and like a drug user. Sorry! But that's just the honest truth.
Now, let me be clear: Many of these women have unfortunate backstories. There is always a place for kindness and tact. When I turned down Cameron I didn't insult her to her face. (And neither should you.) I made like I was an overly nervous first-timer who just couldn't go through with it. Cristen Cremes, I'm sure, needs some help. But I'm not going to have sex with her. No.
To address a related issue: cost. I'm not a "sky's the limit" kind of guy. I have been holding off on seeing Bianca Carlisle because, jeez, $500 is a lot of dough.
As others have noted, Eros isn't what it used to be, either. Alexandra Kole is on there constantly: She's a 40+, way-past-her-prime provider who is trying to sell $600 appointments. She's not a $600 provider.
I've noticed that most of the Eros girls constantly tour. They aren't doing this to accumulate Marriott points. They're chasing the small numbers of guys who are wiling to pay $500. (Hint: There aren't that many, unless the girl is *really* exceptional, and that means exceptional by Todd Cincy standards.) Bianca Carlisle would be able to print money if she charged $300, and she wouldn't have to travel. But I doubt she would be open to that suggestion.
In my experience (and I've been doing this since Bill Clinton was president) $200 to $350 is the range where supply meets demand, where the rate is high enough to consistently attract quality girls, but the rate is low enough that a significant number of men are willing to pay it.
The problem now in the Cincinnati market is that we lack this mid-range. On one hand, we've got Bianca Carlisle chasing $500 appointments. On the other hand, we have the bulk of the USAG guys looking for $80 appointments. (At $80, you'll get nothing but Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig.).
There is a lot of money to be made in that mid range, IMO. But right now we only have the two extremes.
This is another factor often cited as a reason for accepting providers who are over-the-hill, obese, or obvious drug users.
As I've mentioned before, I fled from a meeting with Pretty Cameron, because she reminded me of a bull dyke in a women's prison, and she had a gut overhanging her waistband.
I'd read rave reviews about her "performance".
Guys: I don't care. If a woman is completely unattractive / fat / etc, I don't care how "enthusiastic" she is. Just. No.
Likewise for Bad Kookie, who seems to have had a few too many cookies.
I've also read a lot of raves about Cristen Cremes. To me she looks rough and old and like a drug user. Sorry! But that's just the honest truth.
Now, let me be clear: Many of these women have unfortunate backstories. There is always a place for kindness and tact. When I turned down Cameron I didn't insult her to her face. (And neither should you.) I made like I was an overly nervous first-timer who just couldn't go through with it. Cristen Cremes, I'm sure, needs some help. But I'm not going to have sex with her. No.
To address a related issue: cost. I'm not a "sky's the limit" kind of guy. I have been holding off on seeing Bianca Carlisle because, jeez, $500 is a lot of dough.
As others have noted, Eros isn't what it used to be, either. Alexandra Kole is on there constantly: She's a 40+, way-past-her-prime provider who is trying to sell $600 appointments. She's not a $600 provider.
I've noticed that most of the Eros girls constantly tour. They aren't doing this to accumulate Marriott points. They're chasing the small numbers of guys who are wiling to pay $500. (Hint: There aren't that many, unless the girl is *really* exceptional, and that means exceptional by Todd Cincy standards.) Bianca Carlisle would be able to print money if she charged $300, and she wouldn't have to travel. But I doubt she would be open to that suggestion.
In my experience (and I've been doing this since Bill Clinton was president) $200 to $350 is the range where supply meets demand, where the rate is high enough to consistently attract quality girls, but the rate is low enough that a significant number of men are willing to pay it.
The problem now in the Cincinnati market is that we lack this mid-range. On one hand, we've got Bianca Carlisle chasing $500 appointments. On the other hand, we have the bulk of the USAG guys looking for $80 appointments. (At $80, you'll get nothing but Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig.).
There is a lot of money to be made in that mid range, IMO. But right now we only have the two extremes.Agree completely with you Todd. There are still a few put there but it is getting hard. Too many times the ravens here make. Me wonder if the reviewers have started to fall into the chemicals. With so. Few legitimate sites left and the quality decreasing I keep finding myself not getting anything. Since when was it so hard to be a monger. There are also too many on eros anymore that are also scammerw and not worth the money they ask. We need a few really cute enthusiastic providers willing to be in the range you stated who stay clean and have lower volume.
This is another factor often cited as a reason for accepting providers who are over-the-hill, obese, or obvious drug users.
As I've mentioned before, I fled from a meeting with Pretty Cameron, because she reminded me of a bull dyke in a women's prison, and she had a gut overhanging her waistband.
I'd read rave reviews about her "performance".
Guys: I don't care. If a woman is completely unattractive / fat / etc, I don't care how "enthusiastic" she is. Just. No.
Likewise for Bad Kookie, who seems to have had a few too many cookies.
I've also read a lot of raves about Cristen Cremes. To me she looks rough and old and like a drug user. Sorry! But that's just the honest truth.
Now, let me be clear: Many of these women have unfortunate backstories. There is always a place for kindness and tact. When I turned down Cameron I didn't insult her to her face. (And neither should you.) I made like I was an overly nervous first-timer who just couldn't go through with it. Cristen Cremes, I'm sure, needs some help. But I'm not going to have sex with her. No.
To address a related issue: cost. I'm not a "sky's the limit" kind of guy. I have been holding off on seeing Bianca Carlisle because, jeez, $500 is a lot of dough.
As others have noted, Eros isn't what it used to be, either. Alexandra Kole is on there constantly: She's a 40+, way-past-her-prime provider who is trying to sell $600 appointments. She's not a $600 provider.
I've noticed that most of the Eros girls constantly tour. They aren't doing this to accumulate Marriott points. They're chasing the small numbers of guys who are wiling to pay $500. (Hint: There aren't that many, unless the girl is *really* exceptional, and that means exceptional by Todd Cincy standards.) Bianca Carlisle would be able to print money if she charged $300, and she wouldn't have to travel. But I doubt she would be open to that suggestion.
In my experience (and I've been doing this since Bill Clinton was president) $200 to $350 is the range where supply meets demand, where the rate is high enough to consistently attract quality girls, but the rate is low enough that a significant number of men are willing to pay it.
The problem now in the Cincinnati market is that we lack this mid-range. On one hand, we've got Bianca Carlisle chasing $500 appointments. On the other hand, we have the bulk of the USAG guys looking for $80 appointments. (At $80, you'll get nothing but Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig.).
There is a lot of money to be made in that mid range, IMO. But right now we only have the two extremes.$80 for 15 minutes of sex is pretty good money! Why would I pay $120 or $160? That's $320 an hour in my book. I'm not sure how that equates to "cheap".
Todd Cincy
02-15-19, 07:54
$80 for 15 minutes of sex is pretty good money! Why would I pay $120 or $160? That's $320 an hour in my book. I'm not sure how that equates to "cheap".Her calculation is: How much money do I need, to make it worthwhile to have sex with a guy who is old enough to be my dad, who I'm (probably) not all that attracted to? How much money do I need to make it worth the not insubstantial physical, reputational, and legal risks?
And for most college girl types, that isn't $80. It's more like $200 to $350.
On the other hand, if the woman is a strung-out addict who just wants some quick cash to get another hit, then $80 is more than enough. And yes, women like that will see the logic of your minute-based calculation.
FitAndHung
02-15-19, 11:11
I've also been around since the Clinton years. Before even. Kind of embarrassed to say so.
Anyway Todd nailed it. You can have all the fat drug users you want for $125. Gross. You can have them. Seems to me 90% of USA fits in this category. That or traumatized, unstable types. Very, very few who aren't overweight, don't smoke and who don't have some sort of baggage. It's personal preference, but I agree with what's been said.
You got to pay up in life to get the good stuff.
This is another factor often cited as a reason for accepting providers who are over-the-hill, obese, or obvious drug users.
As I've mentioned before, I fled from a meeting with Pretty Cameron, because she reminded me of a bull dyke in a women's prison, and she had a gut overhanging her waistband.
I'd read rave reviews about her "performance".
Guys: I don't care. If a woman is completely unattractive / fat / etc, I don't care how "enthusiastic" she is. Just. No.
Likewise for Bad Kookie, who seems to have had a few too many cookies.
I've also read a lot of raves about Cristen Cremes. To me she looks rough and old and like a drug user. Sorry! But that's just the honest truth.
Now, let me be clear: Many of these women have unfortunate backstories. There is always a place for kindness and tact. When I turned down Cameron I didn't insult her to her face. (And neither should you.) I made like I was an overly nervous first-timer who just couldn't go through with it. Cristen Cremes, I'm sure, needs some help. But I'm not going to have sex with her. No.
To address a related issue: cost. I'm not a "sky's the limit" kind of guy. I have been holding off on seeing Bianca Carlisle because, jeez, $500 is a lot of dough.
As others have noted, Eros isn't what it used to be, either. Alexandra Kole is on there constantly: She's a 40+, way-past-her-prime provider who is trying to sell $600 appointments. She's not a $600 provider.
I've noticed that most of the Eros girls constantly tour. They aren't doing this to accumulate Marriott points. They're chasing the small numbers of guys who are wiling to pay $500. (Hint: There aren't that many, unless the girl is *really* exceptional, and that means exceptional by Todd Cincy standards.) Bianca Carlisle would be able to print money if she charged $300, and she wouldn't have to travel. But I doubt she would be open to that suggestion.
In my experience (and I've been doing this since Bill Clinton was president) $200 to $350 is the range where supply meets demand, where the rate is high enough to consistently attract quality girls, but the rate is low enough that a significant number of men are willing to pay it.
The problem now in the Cincinnati market is that we lack this mid-range. On one hand, we've got Bianca Carlisle chasing $500 appointments. On the other hand, we have the bulk of the USAG guys looking for $80 appointments. (At $80, you'll get nothing but Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig.).
There is a lot of money to be made in that mid range, IMO. But right now we only have the two extremes.
Her calculation is: How much money do I need, to make it worthwhile to have sex with a guy who is old enough to be my dad, who I'm (probably) not all that attracted to? How much money do I need to make it worth the not insubstantial physical, reputational, and legal risks?
And for most college girl types, that isn't $80. It's more like $200 to $350.
On the other hand, if the woman is a strung-out addict who just wants some quick cash to get another hit, then $80 is more than enough. And yes, women like that will see the logic of your minute-based calculation.
...You got to pay up in life to get the good stuff.Well said.
You guys should call yourselves the 10%ers. We all want providers that look like Ryder and perform like Lady J. The closest I've seen Is the young lady that worked with EE with the Anchor tattoo on her leg. Damn she could bring it. I'm talking about this Ryder who is no longer in the game but she did come to the door in sweats and that would ruin it for some of you.
I've also been around since the Clinton years. Before even. Kind of embarrassed to say so.
Anyway Todd nailed it. You can have all the fat drug users you want for $125. Gross. You can have them. Seems to me 90% of USA fits in this category. That or traumatized, unstable types. Very, very few who aren't overweight, don't smoke and who don't have some sort of baggage. It's personal preference, but I agree with what's been said.
You got to pay up in life to get the good stuff.
I made a old report about Cristen Creams Saying I would never stick my dick in her. Well apparently I Have. The thing is I didn't know it was her. She called herself Natasha. It was over 4 years ago she was doing out calls at that time and had more weight on her. She was on Backpage / Any how I did a repeat with her and she ripped me off for 70. The last time I saw her she was in dirty sweats and had me finger her for a LEO check. Well it smelled so bad I got in my car and took off I didn't know they were the same provider until this morning. She posted one pic of her she used on Backpage along with her new ones. On listcrawler It was a shock to me so bad my dick shriveled up and I almost pissed my pants. He better come out on my next provider. This is all true Lenny6746.
You guys should call yourselves the 10%ers. We all want providers that look like Ryder and perform like Lady J. The closest I've seen Is the young lady that worked with EE with the Anchor tattoo on her leg. Damn she could bring it. I'm talking about this Ryder who is no longer in the game but she did come to the door in sweats and that would ruin it for some of you.I love women who can carry sweatpants or as you posted, yoga pants are mostly hot too. I have seen providers in sweats that make little John shrivel up.
Random pic posted for reference.
Peace.
Ob.
It always bothers / scares / worries me when old used up providers come back for one last go around. For instance, where has she been the last few years? Prison? Bad relationship? Living on the streets homeless? I've never seen her, not now upon her triumphant return or back in 2011 when she was with Buddah. She sent me a PM begging me to come see her again. I had no clue who she was. What bothers / scares me the most is she says, and others he verified, that she'll do anything you want to do to her or her to you for $60. Reports say she's used up and has no teeth. What else does she have, or not have? Young (less than 50) year old people with no teeth get that way from drugs and disease, infectious and contagious. You see her you're playing Russian roulette IMO.
Golfguy, playing through and skipping this hole.
You are playing Russian roulette with any provider you see. Don't kid yourself into thinking you are safe. Maybe you should stick to playing golf.
It always bothers / scares / worries me when old used up providers come back for one last go around. For instance, where has she been the last few years? Prison? Bad relationship? Living on the streets homeless? I've never seen her, not now upon her triumphant return or back in 2011 when she was with Buddah. She sent me a PM begging me to come see her again. I had no clue who she was. What bothers / scares me the most is she says, and others he verified, that she'll do anything you want to do to her or her to you for $60. Reports say she's used up and has no teeth. What else does she have, or not have? Young (less than 50) year old people with no teeth get that way from drugs and disease, infectious and contagious. You see her you're playing Russian roulette IMO.
Golfguy, playing through and skipping this hole.
NotYourAverage
02-17-19, 18:47
It always bothers / scares / worries me when old used up providers come back for one last go around. For instance, where has she been the last few years? Prison? Bad relationship? Living on the streets homeless? I've never seen her, not now upon her triumphant return or back in 2011 when she was with Buddah. She sent me a PM begging me to come see her again. I had no clue who she was. What bothers / scares me the most is she says, and others he verified, that she'll do anything you want to do to her or her to you for $60. Reports say she's used up and has no teeth. What else does she have, or not have? Young (less than 50) year old people with no teeth get that way from drugs and disease, infectious and contagious. You see her you're playing Russian roulette IMO.
Golfguy, playing through and skipping this hole.Golfguy, I always chuckle when I read your posts and golf analogies. As far as Trixie goes, the pics tell the whole story. EEEEEEWWWWWWW! Let alone the reviews. I think skipping the hole and taking a double bogey on the scorecard is the correct play here. Your tee shot will probably land in the rough, and you will end up in a bunker or two before you reach the uneven burnt up dead green. Good luck getting up and down from a sand trap into that hole!!
Take care and be safe!
It always bothers / scares / worries me when old used up providers come back for one last go around. For instance, where has she been the last few years? Prison? Bad relationship? Living on the streets homeless? I've never seen her, not now upon her triumphant return or back in 2011 when she was with Buddah. She sent me a PM begging me to come see her again. I had no clue who she was. What bothers / scares me the most is she says, and others he verified, that she'll do anything you want to do to her or her to you for $60. Reports say she's used up and has no teeth. What else does she have, or not have? Young (less than 50) year old people with no teeth get that way from drugs and disease, infectious and contagious. You see her you're playing Russian roulette IMO.
Golfguy, playing through and skipping this hole.Very well put! I have seen a couple providers that I was embarrased to say that I have seen so I have not reviewed them (don't know what I was thinking and / or thought I was seeing), those I have tipped and walked away. I have also posted reviews on a couple ladies that I wish I had not reviewed, as I would like to think that I had a little better taste. After reading Trixie's ad and seeing her pics all I can say is. Well said! I wouldn't play this hole even with your putter.
Willow1535
02-17-19, 20:20
I have not seen Trixie or Cristen in person, but I have seen their pictures / ads. They would both fall under the category of " I wouldn't fuck them, if they were giving it away". Guys, come on. Neither one of these two women are remotely attractive and I don't care if they are cheap. You can do better in a local dive bar on any weekend night for the cost of a bucket of beers.
It always bothers / scares / worries me when old used up providers come back for one last go around. For instance, where has she been the last few years? Prison? Bad relationship? Living on the streets homeless? I've never seen her, not now upon her triumphant return or back in 2011 when she was with Buddah. She sent me a PM begging me to come see her again. I had no clue who she was. What bothers / scares me the most is she says, and others he verified, that she'll do anything you want to do to her or her to you for $60. Reports say she's used up and has no teeth. What else does she have, or not have? Young (less than 50) year old people with no teeth get that way from drugs and disease, infectious and contagious. You see her you're playing Russian roulette IMO.
Golfguy, playing through and skipping this hole.
Reports say she's used up and has no teeth. What else does she have, or not have? Young (less than 50) year old people with no teeth get that way from drugs and disease, infectious and contagious. You see her you're playing Russian roulette IMO.
You are playing Russian roulette with any provider you see. Don't kid yourself into thinking you are safe. Maybe you should stick to playing golf.You see anyone you're not in a long time monogamous relationship with, even a non-provider, you are playing Russian roulette. However, the difference here is the number rounds are in the revolver. A girlfriend in high school might only have 1 round, but if you're that unlucky, that's all that's needed. A provider whose been in the business for 20 years to feed a 20 year habit probably has all the chambers loaded; your only hope is a misfire.
Todd Cincy
02-19-19, 13:33
I have not seen Trixie or Cristen in person, but I have seen their pictures / ads. They would both fall under the category of " I wouldn't fuck them, if they were giving it away". Guys, come on. Neither one of these two women are remotely attractive and I don't care if they are cheap. You can do better in a local dive bar on any weekend night for the cost of a bucket of beers.But sure enough, there is a rave review on Trixie, from a guy who's seen her multiple times recently, and loves the fact that the loss of her teeth due to heavy drug use enables her to do a "gummy". (Similar remarks have been made about Cristen Cremes in the past.).
My thoughts: You're kidding me, right? (No, he isn't kidding.).
Not to judge another hobbyist's taste (trying not to, anyway), but this illustrates yet again a real gap among us in terms of minimal standards.
There is a certain percentage of hobbyists who are just looking for cheap providers who will do almost anything, without any discernible quality standards.
MontgomeryMm67
02-19-19, 13:42
But sure enough, there is a rave review on Trixie, from a guy who's seen her multiple times recently, and loves the fact that the loss of her teeth due to heavy drug use enables her to do a "gummy". (Similar remarks have been made about Cristen Cremes in the past.).
My thoughts: You're kidding me, right? (No, he isn't kidding.).
Not to judge another hobbyist's taste (trying not to, anyway), but this illustrates yet again a real gap among us in terms of minimal standards.
There is a certain percentage of hobbyists who are just looking for cheap providers who will do almost anything, without any discernible quality standards.But a gummy BBBJ sounds a little like someone's grandma giving a blow-job and that's definitely a johnso shriveler IMHO!
Willow1535
02-19-19, 15:01
I read his review of Trixie and was able to get through most of it, until he mentioned DATY. Thinking of that made me want to puke. To each his own. One thing that I am grateful for is that he wrote the review. At a minimum, I can go back and look at his history of posts and try to avoid anyone that he has been with.
But sure enough, there is a rave review on Trixie, from a guy who's seen her multiple times recently, and loves the fact that the loss of her teeth due to heavy drug use enables her to do a "gummy". (Similar remarks have been made about Cristen Cremes in the past.).
My thoughts: You're kidding me, right? (No, he isn't kidding.).
Not to judge another hobbyist's taste (trying not to, anyway), but this illustrates yet again a real gap among us in terms of minimal standards.
There is a certain percentage of hobbyists who are just looking for cheap providers who will do almost anything, without any discernible quality standards.
Todd Cincy
02-19-19, 19:36
Obviously, this is not my call. I'm just throwing this out there.
Both the forum and the classified site (to the best of my knowledge) already has a "no transgender" rule. (I believe what the mod said was, "this is a place for men who have always been men, and women who have always been women.) So it isn't a wide-open field, even now.
This is good. Otherwise, we would be flooded with trannies, and guys who like trannies.
A similar screening might be applied to providers who are super-rough, or who are just plain fat. (Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig, in other words.).
This would, I think, get rid of the low end of the market. From the perspective of the management, it would put USAG on track to compete with some of the higher end sites. And that's where the money is in this business, I would think. Not with the $60 gummy blow jobs from addicts.
Again, not my call. Just a suggestion.
MontgomeryMm67
02-19-19, 19:58
Obviously, this is not my call. I'm just throwing this out there.
Both the forum and the classified site (to the best of my knowledge) already has a "no transgender" rule. (I believe what the mod said was, "this is a place for men who have always been men, and women who have always been women.) So it isn't a wide-open field, even now.
This is good. Otherwise, we would be flooded with trannies, and guys who like trannies.
A similar screening might be applied to providers who are super-rough, or who are just plain fat. (Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig, in other words.).
This would, I think, get rid of the low end of the market. From the perspective of the management, it would put USAG on track to compete with some of the higher end sites. And that's where the money is in this business, I would think. Not with the $60 gummy blow jobs from addicts.
Again, not my call. Just a suggestion.I think one way to weed out some of the Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig would be for USAAC to have a field (s) for a provider to enter a personal website or social media handle. In my experience the providers who take time to develop a website and / or are active on social media like switter or Twitter tend to be more reliable and have their shit together. This is not a perfect litmus test but providers who have very little to zero internet footprint go right to the bottom of the list for me.
You want a list. You have probably Been With most of them. LOL And lets get rid of the SW reports also with the low end providers Then we need to weed out the middle priced ones too! That way All of us horny fuckers Would be doing 3 or 4 providers. Hell they would be worn out in a week or so. Then WHAT? Trannys? Not my style, Maybe yours. We don't dictate whos on here as providers. It your choice who you see and fuck. Lets keep it that way Lenny6746.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-19-19, 22:31
I think one way to weed out some of the Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig would be for USAAC to have a field (s) for a provider to enter a personal website or social media handle. In my experience the providers who take time to develop a website and / or are active on social media like switter or Twitter tend to be more reliable and have their shit together. This is not a perfect litmus test but providers who have very little to zero internet footprint go right to the bottom of the list for me.As someone who has helped a number of professional and businesslike ladies develop personal websites, with the "Dark Days of 2018" having a personal website isn't as easy as it once was. Gone are the "FREE" sites, ones that have some pop up advertising for other sites for example. It is really a difficult era that we are in now.
USAAC is just one of a very few sites where ladies can advertise for free. It is better than any other out there. Now that being said, many of the ladies who used to advertise on BP and are no better than SW with cell phones have inundated the site and the ladies who are professional and on top of their game are lost in the chaff. By site rules, a lady can only have ONE ad per city, but look at the number that violate that rule. Are you tired of seeing the same ad all day long? I am. I wish the site would take down any additional ad by a provider. The last ad posted should be the one that stays up, Take down any other ad (ads). Make the playing field even for all by each lady only having one ad per city per day.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-19-19, 23:33
Not to judge another hobbyist's taste...But you are. Some guy's like fatties, some like heroin addicts, some like anything with a wet hole to stick their dick in. The board has a rule about judging someone's preferences and activities so don't do it.
Maybe you should start an User Forum for reviewing and discussing women you prefer. As a former Moderator on the dead Indy-pendent site, I know how much work it takes to "herd the cats" that post. In the first post, just set the guidelines for posting and see where it goes.
Be part of attempting to improve the site, don't just sit back and observe.
Listcrawler / alligator, whatever. Has become overrun with spammers and bots. The key is either TGTBT, out of town area code, or only an email listed. By the way, here in the 513 code I don't consider Columbus, Louisville, Cleveland, or Toledo "out of town" for these purposes because many will travel the short distance for a week or so to make some money. Maybe I should have said "out of state?
Anyway, I'm familiar with USA classifieds, but with craigslist and backpage gone, are there any other alternatives? Please PM with any specific advice.
Much appreciated!
Willow1535
02-20-19, 02:51
When it comes to heroin addicts, fatties, skanks, etc, I don't think that mongers who seek these types out prefer them. It comes down to what they can afford or what they are willing to pay. Pure and simple. At the end of the day, if you only have $5. 00 to spend, you're heading to McDonalds for a value meal; not The Precinct.
But you are. Some guy's like fatties, some like heroin addicts, some like anything with a wet hole to stick their dick in. The board has a rule about judging someone's preferences and activities so don't do it.
Maybe you should start an User Forum for reviewing and discussing women you prefer. As a former Moderator on the dead Indy-pendent site, I know how much work it takes to "herd the cats" that post. In the first post, just set the guidelines for posting and see where it goes.
Be part of attempting to improve the site, don't just sit back and observe.
Willow1535
02-20-19, 03:13
I am 99.9 percent sure that you and I don't share the same tastes in women my friend. I agree, it is your personal choice to see whoever you want to. I just want to make sure that I avoid seeing, if possible, any of the low budget talent that you and others, like you, spend time with.
You want a list. You have probably Been With most of them. LOL And lets get rid of the SW reports also with the low end providers Then we need to weed out the middle priced ones too! That way All of us horny fuckers Would be doing 3 or 4 providers. Hell they would be worn out in a week or so. Then WHAT? Trannys? Not my style, Maybe yours. We don't dictate whos on here as providers. It your choice who you see and fuck. Lets keep it that way Lenny6746.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-20-19, 08:36
...At the end of the day, if you only have $5. 00 to spend, you're heading to McDonalds for a value meal; not The Precinct.I totally understand your point, but a point that I want to make is this: if you only have $5 you shouldn't walk into The Precinct and demand to get a steak. So why do so many guys read an ad, see the quoted rates, but still call the lady and try to get them to lower their price? I'm in sales and if someone called me and wanted me to sell my product at a 50% or higher discount I would laugh at them. It's my product my STATED price.
It's demeaning and creates ill will with the provider.
I think the ladies should just reply to a low ball price offer with simply "RTFA" which means Read The Fuckin Ad like we tell newbies to RTFF.
Now if you want to get someone for less, eventually, see them once or twice and pay for just a half hour. After you feel that you are compatible with her and seem to have developed a business relationship, then ask if you promise to see her on a schedule would she CONSIDER giving you a Frequent Fucker Discount.
If not move on you will find someone willing eventually. But you have been business-like and courteous.
If she does, then keep up you end of the deal and see her weekly or whatever was agreed to. Plus keep the arrangements to yourself. Saying "she sucked me for $xx. " in a review only causes her grief.
MeadnMrsJones
02-20-19, 10:19
You guys should call yourselves the 10%ers. We all want providers that look like Ryder and perform like Lady J. The closest I've seen Is the young lady that worked with EE with the Anchor tattoo on her leg. Damn she could bring it. I'm talking about this Ryder who is no longer in the game but she did come to the door in sweats and that would ruin it for some of you.If you guys want to have sex with chubby girls in sweatpants who aren't going to at least ACT like they are into it, couldn't you just stay home and fuck your wives?
Call me a 10%er. A 5%er. A 0. 5%er. I'm not wasting my time on low quality.
I totally understand your point, but a point that I want to make is this: if you only have $5 you shouldn't walk into The Precinct and demand to get a steak. So why do so many guys read an ad, see the quoted rates, but still call the lady and try to get them to lower their price? I'm in sales and if someone called me and wanted me to sell my product at a 50% or higher discount I would laugh at them. It's my product my STATED price.
It's demeaning and creates ill will with the provider.
I think the ladies should just reply to a low ball price offer with simply "RTFA" which means Read The Fuckin Ad like we tell newbies to RTFF.
Now if you want to get someone for less, eventually, see them once or twice and pay for just a half hour. After you feel that you are compatible with her and seem to have developed a business relationship, then ask if you promise to see her on a schedule would she CONSIDER giving you a Frequent Fucker Discount.
If not move on you will find someone willing eventually. But you have been business-like and courteous.
If she does, then keep up you end of the deal and see her weekly or whatever was agreed to. Plus keep the arrangements to yourself. Saying "she sucked me for $xx. " in a review only causes her grief.I see a provider regularly and she offered me a discount without my asking. Same day and time every week. A tip goes a long way also.
Todd Cincy
02-20-19, 13:20
But you are. Some guy's like fatties, some like heroin addicts, some like anything with a wet hole to stick their dick in. The board has a rule about judging someone's preferences and activities so don't do it.
Maybe you should start an User Forum for reviewing and discussing women you prefer. As a former Moderator on the dead Indy-pendent site, I know how much work it takes to "herd the cats" that post. In the first post, just set the guidelines for posting and see where it goes.
Be part of attempting to improve the site, don't just sit back and observe.You may ultimately be right about the difficulty of herding the cats. But when a tranny posts (I remember it happened a few years ago) he / she was gone within hours. So it can be done. I think the issue is more one of collective will than feasibility.
Like you said, a sizable percentage of the men here seem to prefer Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig. (Or at least they're wiling to settle for them.) The ultimate answer may be that this has become a low-end venue, and there's nothing that can be done about it.
At the end of the day, online communities (just like real ones) do seem to naturally trend toward specialization. There's probably a reason why girls like Bianca Carlisle don't post here, or on the USA classified site. (I would imagine that the problem *isn't* that they don't know it's here.).
They sense, rather, that this isn't their market. Over the years, this has become a venue for cheap, low-end streetscorts and the guys who prefer them. No one specifically planned it that way, but it happened.
Do any of you remember Buddah? I dealt with him back in 2004, pre-USAG days. Back then, his girls weren't necessarily stunners, but they were solidly in the middling category.
Then he came here, and almost immediately he started hiring obese women and addicts. Like, almost overnight. I asked him about it. He basically said (I'm paraphrasing) "You can only get so much when the guys are only willing to pay $80. ".
I think the larger question, for those of us who aren't happy with the quality here, is: Is there any way to improve it? Or is it simply impossible for the two markets to coexist in the same forum / venue?
The metaphor of McDonald's vs the Precinct keeps coming up. You will notice that no one tries to make those two radically different business models coexist in the same restaurant. It may ultimately be the same case here.
The metaphor of McDonald's vs the Precinct keeps coming up. You will notice that no one tries to make those two radically different business models coexist in the same restaurant. It may ultimately be the same case here.I too have heard the McDonald's vs Precinct argument. Some would even go so far as to say, "As long as I get off, it doesn't matter what she looks like. Cum is cum. ". Using the fast food analogy, I guess those guys are saying you can get as full and crap it out later on a $10 meal at Mickey D's, than you can get spending $100 at The Precinct. What they fail to consider is that it's not about getting full. For some of us, it's about the whole dining experience; from the appetizer, to the entree, to the wine selection, to dessert, to using real silverware and not just a plastic spork. The orgasm is not the point; the whole experience is the point.
For that, you need more than just a willing and available hole in which to stick in your wicket. For that you need an enthusiastic (or one who can fake enthusiasm well) and attractive participant in the fantasy process.
Willow1535
02-20-19, 22:19
You raise some very good points. I don't think that we can improve the level of quality here, but I do think that the different types of mongers can coexist. I primarily use this site for the following:
1) Stay current on what is going on in the hobby.
2) Read reviews and information on SBs. I have a current SB, but I also like to see what is out there and available.
3) Read reviews of escorts (traveling, EE's, etc), who might meet my standards.
I think that we can all agree that we all have different standards, budgets, likes, wants and needs. Some guys are happy to stick their dicks in any wet hole and have a summer teeth provider give them a gummy. Others are happy to pay for a fantasy date. I just happen to fall under the latter. Quality talent is available, we just have to dig deep to find it.
Buddha. I go back to 2003 with him. He did have some low budget talent available, but there were some gems in the old days. One in particular went on to become a very high priced traveling girl. I won't mention her name, but she had one of the finest asses in the business.
You may ultimately be right about the difficulty of herding the cats. But when a tranny posts (I remember it happened a few years ago) he / she was gone within hours. So it can be done. I think the issue is more one of collective will than feasibility.
Like you said, a sizable percentage of the men here seem to prefer Jenny Crack and Jenny Craig. (Or at least they're wiling to settle for them.) The ultimate answer may be that this has become a low-end venue, and there's nothing that can be done about it.
At the end of the day, online communities (just like real ones) do seem to naturally trend toward specialization. There's probably a reason why girls like Bianca Carlisle don't post here, or on the USA classified site. (I would imagine that the problem *isn't* that they don't know it's here.).
They sense, rather, that this isn't their market. Over the years, this has become a venue for cheap, low-end streetscorts and the guys who prefer them. No one specifically planned it that way, but it happened.
Do any of you remember Buddah? I dealt with him back in 2004, pre-USAG days. Back then, his girls weren't necessarily stunners, but they were solidly in the middling category.
Then he came here, and almost immediately he started hiring obese women and addicts. Like, almost overnight. I asked him about it. He basically said (I'm paraphrasing) "You can only get so much when the guys are only willing to pay $80. ".
I think the larger question, for those of us who aren't happy with the quality here, is: Is there any way to improve it? Or is it simply impossible for the two markets to coexist in the same forum / venue?
The metaphor of McDonald's vs the Precinct keeps coming up. You will notice that no one tries to make those two radically different business models coexist in the same restaurant. It may ultimately be the same case here.
HobbyNewbie197
02-21-19, 14:56
I'm completely in agreement that everyone has different tastes and it's not something any of us should be judging each other on. Ultimately, we are all taking enormous risks in this hobby and whatever assistance we can lend each other is hugely beneficial. With that said, I also think some of the reviews of the "lesser attractive" ladies in the forum are absolutely insane.
I recently read a glowing review of a particular provider that sounded great. It was very well written, provided the right amount of details, and raved about how service oriented and attractive this provider was. I figured I'd give it a go. I set the date, met at her incall, walked in and HOLY FUCK. This lady was old enough to be my mom and I'm 40. Not only was she NOT attractive in the least, she was downright ugly. Fat gut, saggy tits, and obvious dental issues. I literally felt like throwing up. Now here in lies the problem. I don't like to hurt a lady's feelings so instead of just turning around and leaving, I gave her half the money and told her something came up and I had to leave. I didn't have the heart to tell her what I really thought.
Again, I get the differences in preference but how can a review be so far off base from reality? And his review wasn't the only one I read that talked this lady up. I feel like they should have said "Great time if you have a drugged out granma fetish" or "Head game is fire as long as you don't get scraped by the broken teeth". Something like that. Live and learn I guess.
Anyway, I think we need another sub-forum here for the higher end and traveling ladies. My preference is hot girls. I feel like my SO is an 8 so my dates have to be at least as attractive but preferably hotter. Again, to each their own. I'm not trying to dog anyone's taste around here. Just think we need to have a better place to research and review the top end of what's out there. Good Day!!
ThatGuy011
02-21-19, 16:00
I too have heard the McDonald's vs Precinct argument. Some would even go so far as to say, "As long as I get off, it doesn't matter what she looks like. Cum is cum. ". Using the fast food analogy, I guess those guys are saying you can get as full and crap it out later on a $10 meal at Mickey D's, than you can get spending $100 at The Precinct. What they fail to consider is that it's not about getting full. For some of us, it's about the whole dining experience; from the appetizer, to the entree, to the wine selection, to dessert, to using real silverware and not just a plastic spork. The orgasm is not the point; the whole experience is the point.
For that, you need more than just a willing and available hole in which to stick in your wicket. For that you need an enthusiastic (or one who can fake enthusiasm well) and attractive participant in the fantasy process.FOR YOU. The whole experience is the point. The fantasy that some young attractive woman whom is normally well beyond your means wants to worship the ground you walk on, you sexual beast, you!
That's not what everyone's wanting out of it. I'm sure there are some cheap, maybe fixed income folks on here. Personally, I don't do fantasy. Even if I am as attractive, or better than the girl I'm doing something with, that doesn't mean that that girl would fuck me legitimately. I have no misgivings. Said girl is doing this because I have dollars, therefore all I want is to use that body to cum. I don't care about any fake bullshit. I don't need to pretend that I'm on a porno set, or that this girl actually likes or loves me. Also, because she's a convenience, not an upgrade, it's worth less to me.
Also, no one can do anything about who posts ads, and I'm sure 'high end' girls are not avoiding USAA because cheap. AFAIK, doesn't cost anything, and I'm sure if you say 250+/ hr, no one that only wants 80/ hr is going to try to get you to do 80.
There is now thread for the folks that are like the latter you mentioned.
You raise some very good points. I don't think that we can improve the level of quality here, but I do think that the different types of mongers can coexist. I primarily use this site for the following:
1) Stay current on what is going on in the hobby.
2) Read reviews and information on SBs. I have a current SB, but I also like to see what is out there and available.
3) Read reviews of escorts (traveling, EE's, etc), who might meet my standards.
I think that we can all agree that we all have different standards, budgets, likes, wants and needs. Some guys are happy to stick their dicks in any wet hole and have a summer teeth provider give them a gummy. Others are happy to pay for a fantasy date. I just happen to fall under the latter. Quality talent is available, we just have to dig deep to find it.
Buddha. I go back to 2003 with him. He did have some low budget talent available, but there were some gems in the old days. One in particular went on to become a very high priced traveling girl. I won't mention her name, but she had one of the finest asses in the business.
Anyway, I think we need another sub-forum here for the higher end and traveling ladies. My preference is hot girls. I feel like my SO is an 8 so my dates have to be at least as attractive but preferably hotter. Again, to each their own. I'm not trying to dog anyone's taste around here. Just think we need to have a better place to research and review the top end of what's out there. Good Day!!If I'm not mistaken the original threads were devised that way; being USA reviews were just for that, escort reviews were for other higher end girls, backpage was for those particular girls, etc. Somewhere at sometime things got intermingled. My case in point is Aribaby just being reported on the escort thread when it probably should be on backpage thread.
Littlered352
02-22-19, 06:49
But sure enough, there is a rave review on Trixie, from a guy who's seen her multiple times recently, and loves the fact that the loss of her teeth due to heavy drug use enables her to do a "gummy". (Similar remarks have been made about Cristen Cremes in the past.).
My thoughts: You're kidding me, right? (No, he isn't kidding.).
Not to judge another hobbyist's taste (trying not to, anyway), but this illustrates yet again a real gap among us in terms of minimal standards.
There is a certain percentage of hobbyists who are just looking for cheap providers who will do almost anything, without any discernible quality standards.
I read his review of Trixie and was able to get through most of it, until he mentioned DATY. Thinking of that made me want to puke. To each his own. One thing that I am grateful for is that he wrote the review. At a minimum, I can go back and look at his history of posts and try to avoid anyone that he has been with.Whats UNBELIEVABLE is how many are here talking crazy. Its a FUNNY thing Not one person bashing my name has seen me. EVERYONE that has love me. Many come back I will tell you this IF this shoe fits lace it up ANYONE with craziness to say message me ill see you on MY OWN TIME donation free just to make my point I am and have always been QP ANYONE that has ACTUALLY seen me will tell you the same. I do things at my rate for a reason I'm new back to the area and have to re-establish myself. It don't make sense to me being newly independent to be right out the gate top rate if your not willing to give me the chance to disprove all the shit people have been talking then simply scroll past me and quit talking shit. Were grown adults here. Lets be professional.
So pm me to set something up free of donation. Just a real review based on facts not this rumor mill high school bull shit or simply keep the name out of your mouth.
Much love Trixie. I'll be waiting.
Littlered352
02-22-19, 07:23
I read his review of Trixie and was able to get through most of it, until he mentioned DATY. Thinking of that made me want to puke. To each his own. One thing that I am grateful for is that he wrote the review. At a minimum, I can go back and look at his history of posts and try to avoid anyone that he has been with.Whats REALLY funny to me is the fact you won't see me, then want to give people that HAVE in fact become established friends SHIT. Pretty sure its the on that blindly takls shit that cracks me up. Its really sad. I mean I've put it out there MEET me ONE TIME I promise you'll leave w a different mindset. Again free pass no donation just a REAL review w FACTS not this high school drama you are on. Whether you are adult enough to idk BUT I'll wait EITHER keep my name out of you mouth until you have questions comments and concerns go in my inbox. Were not a bunch of high school girls on RUMOR time lets do it message me.
MisforMaster
02-22-19, 09:40
When it comes to heroin addicts, fatties, skanks, etc, I don't think that mongers who seek these types out prefer them. It comes down to what they can afford or what they are willing to pay. Pure and simple. At the end of the day, if you only have $5. 00 to spend, you're heading to McDonalds for a value meal; not The Precinct.Just for the record, Jeff Ruby is a dick. He's a showman, but, he's one hell of an entitled asshole. So even if I had $500 to spend, I sure as fuck wouldn't spend it on him.
Now, with that said, let's be honest -- some guys are only looking for a certain type of woman. I know that I'd throw all of my money at a smart woman with no gag reflex who likes greek and has red hair (bonus points if they're tall -- if they're tall, I might make an exception to the hair color). Its just my thing. SW'ers are completely out of the question for me, as well as girls who are with an agency. If I see someone who has signs of drug use that is high risk (IV Drugs, H, etc), I'll skip them as well, but, I don't get wrapped up around coke or week (way too much time in Miami). Hell, even if they have a suitcase pimp of a boyfriend / girlfriend, I throw caution around seeing someone -- it's honestly the reason why there are some providers I'm one and done with.
If someone new comes to the scene, doesn't know what the rates are, am I the asshole for fucking her if she's below market value? If an exotic travels here, is she the asshole for charging 2 x what I'd normally pay for almost the same services?
The reality is that for most of us, we control our own destiny (I *completely* understand that married guys might not have the financial flexibility that I might have in spending $$, so I won't ever begrudge them), but, all of us here of us control our own dicks. I'm never going to bemoan a guy because he only likes SW's. I'm never going to talk shit about a provider who I've never personally met (and lord fucking knows I've met my number of them), and I'm sure as fuck not going to try to stick my dick into someone else's issues.
Just my $. 02.
MM.
Willow1535
02-22-19, 13:16
I just responded to your PM. I respect you for reaching out to me directly and for the civil tone of your message. As I communicated in my response, I will not be taking you up on your offer and I will not post anything else about you. You are correct; I have never seen you and can't comment on your skills or services provided. You have your admirers and I will leave it at that.
Whats UNBELIEVABLE is how many are here talking crazy. Its a FUNNY thing Not one person bashing my name has seen me. EVERYONE that has love me. Many come back I will tell you this IF this shoe fits lace it up ANYONE with craziness to say message me ill see you on MY OWN TIME donation free just to make my point I am and have always been QP ANYONE that has ACTUALLY seen me will tell you the same. I do things at my rate for a reason I'm new back to the area and have to re-establish myself. It don't make sense to me being newly independent to be right out the gate top rate if your not willing to give me the chance to disprove all the shit people have been talking then simply scroll past me and quit talking shit. Were grown adults here. Lets be professional.
So pm me to set something up free of donation. Just a real review based on facts not this rumor mill high school bull shit or simply keep the name out of your mouth.
Much love Trixie. I'll be waiting.
HobbyNewbie197
02-22-19, 13:27
If I'm not mistaken the original threads were devised that way; being USA reviews were just for that, escort reviews were for other higher end girls, backpage was for those particular girls, etc. Somewhere at sometime things got intermingled. My case in point is Aribaby just being reported on the escort thread when it probably should be on backpage thread.A lot of providers cross post between USA, Listcrawler, Etc. I'm sure this is the reason reviews for the same girls end up in both places. The only site that I have not noticed this is Eros. I don't think I've ever seen a provider from Eros post on any of the commonly used sites. I'd be very happy to see a sub forum for just Eros girls. That would make things much easier. Maybe retire the craigslist and backpage sub forums and have separate forums for USA, Listcrawler, Eros, and a catch all for the rest. That would be much simpler.
Hey mods. Any chance this could happen?
LadyShay69
02-22-19, 13:59
Whats UNBELIEVABLE is how many are here talking crazy. Its a FUNNY thing Not one person bashing my name has seen me. EVERYONE that has love me. Many come back I will tell you this IF this shoe fits lace it up ANYONE with craziness to say message me ill see you on MY OWN TIME donation free just to make my point I am and have always been QP ANYONE that has ACTUALLY seen me will tell you the same. I do things at my rate for a reason I'm new back to the area and have to re-establish myself. It don't make sense to me being newly independent to be right out the gate top rate if your not willing to give me the chance to disprove all the shit people have been talking then simply scroll past me and quit talking shit. Were grown adults here. Lets be professional.
So pm me to set something up free of donation. Just a real review based on facts not this rumor mill high school bull shit or simply keep the name out of your mouth.
Much love Trixie. I'll be waiting.That goes on a lot from some mongers and it's usually the same few. As you said there're more gentlemen here than lets just say (NON-PROFESSIONALS). It's your business and you run it the way that makes you feel comfortable.
Kisses,
LadyShay69.
P.S.
Welcome to the neighborhood.
UOnlyLiveOnce
02-22-19, 14:52
I'd just gotten rid of my burner phone before I read the big hobby related news out of Florida. That almost seems like a sign from above.
I don't normally feel bad for someone who is filthy rich, especially for a famous person who didn't have enough sense to get his needs met more discretely. But I kind of feel badly for Mr. Kraft. His wife died years ago and 99% of the women chasing after him are probably gold diggers, so I can understand why a guy like him would get his needs met in a more transactional way. Now he's going to be the butt of endless jokes just for doing what men do, which is trying to get some.
At least he has millions of dollars to fall back on. I don't. I've been in the hobby this time around for 8 years. In that time, I've never been busted (by wife or LE), never caught a STD (I used covers 100% of the time, but still), and never had anything really bad happen like getting robbed or my head cracked open by a crazy boyfriend.
But no winning streak lasts forever. My last encounter was with Kyla about 3 weeks ago, and it was one of the best encounters of the 15 or so I had with her, so I'd much rather leave the hobby on that note than to keep tempting fate until it happens.
So, I'm going to hit the gym harder than I already am, earn more money, and find a bed buddy to meet my needs.
I thank you for your reports that helped me to have fun and stay safe, and I thank A2 for providing the forum for this info. Stay safe out there.
WhereDreamsGo
02-22-19, 17:13
I'd just gotten rid of my burner phone before I read the big hobby related news out of Florida. That almost seems like a sign from above.
I don't normally feel bad for someone who is filthy rich, especially for a famous person who didn't have enough sense to get his needs met more discretely. But I kind of feel badly for Mr. Kraft. His wife died years ago and 99% of the women chasing after him are probably gold diggers, so I can understand why a guy like him would get his needs met in a more transactional way. Now he's going to be the butt of endless jokes just for doing what men do, which is trying to get some.
At least he has millions of dollars to fall back on. I don't. I've been in the hobby this time around for 8 years. In that time, I've never been busted (by wife or LE), never caught a STD (I used covers 100% of the time, but still), and never had anything really bad happen like getting robbed or my head cracked open by a crazy boyfriend.
But no winning streak lasts forever. My last encounter was with Kyla about 3 weeks ago, and it was one of the best encounters of the 15 or so I had with her, so I'd much rather leave the hobby on that note than to keep tempting fate until it happens.
So, I'm going to hit the gym harder than I already am, earn more money, and find a bed buddy to meet my needs.
I thank you for your reports that helped me to have fun and stay safe, and I thank A2 for providing the forum for this info. Stay safe out there.1) Patriots.
2) He's got so much money and presumably enough smarts to do this discreetly. He should be a lot more worried about blackmail than getting popped in a massage-parlor sting.
Vinnie Kramer
02-22-19, 17:19
He's 70 something and the chick he's dating is 39. Google Ricki Lander.
Tried to copy past a picture and failed.
I'd just gotten rid of my burner phone before I read the big hobby related news out of Florida. That almost seems like a sign from above.
I don't normally feel bad for someone who is filthy rich, especially for a famous person who didn't have enough sense to get his needs met more discretely. But I kind of feel badly for Mr. Kraft. His wife died years ago and 99% of the women chasing after him are probably gold diggers, so I can understand why a guy like him would get his needs met in a more transactional way. Now he's going to be the butt of endless jokes just for doing what men do, which is trying to get some.
At least he has millions of dollars to fall back on. I don't. I've been in the hobby this time around for 8 years. In that time, I've never been busted (by wife or LE), never caught a STD (I used covers 100% of the time, but still), and never had anything really bad happen like getting robbed or my head cracked open by a crazy boyfriend.
But no winning streak lasts forever. My last encounter was with Kyla about 3 weeks ago, and it was one of the best encounters of the 15 or so I had with her, so I'd much rather leave the hobby on that note than to keep tempting fate until it happens.
So, I'm going to hit the gym harder than I already am, earn more money, and find a bed buddy to meet my needs.
I thank you for your reports that helped me to have fun and stay safe, and I thank A2 for providing the forum for this info. Stay safe out there.
1) Patriots.
2) He's got so much money and presumably enough smarts to do this discreetly. He should be a lot more worried about blackmail than getting popped in a massage-parlor sting.He owns the Patriots and.
Is filthy rich. I'm sure he has zero fucks about what people think. I know I wouldn't give a rats ass. I'd celebrate my arrest with a penthouse suite, champagne, and 3 hookers.
TinyThalia
02-24-19, 23:39
Enjoy while you can she'll be off the market sooner than later!
Until then we are off to bed losers.
Signed.
WillieWanka.
And here as well but I have to tell you, I appreciate you signing it with your sock account name.
I've banned it.
A2
Enjoy while you can she'll be off the market sooner than later!
Until then we are off to bed losers.
Signed.
WillieWanka.
And here as well but I have to tell you, I appreciate you signing it with your sock account name.
I've banned it.
A2I don't care who you are, that is FUNNY! Unless you are Thalia perhaps.
I thank you for your reports that helped me to have fun and stay safe, and I thank A2 for providing the forum for this info. Stay safe out there.Good luck to you as well.
What I found was particularly bothersome was this section in the article.
"They searched online forums where users posted about sex acts performed at the massage parlors. Based on the evidence they collected, they obtained a warrant to conduct surveillance. ".
During my reading for the forum, I had started believing that LEO cannot use info from sites like these, but this gotten me thinking.
Peace.
Ob.
MisforMaster
02-25-19, 10:53
During my reading for the forum, I had started believing that LEO cannot use info from sites like these, but this gotten me thinking.
As a former criminal defense attorney, I can tell you that LEO can use whatever investigation tools they want to as long as it's "legally obtained. ".
This information is posted on the web, basically, for all to see. While I'd like to think that A2 won't splay our IP addresses if they get a subpoena, I can't say that his hosting provider would do the same. Or Cincinnati Bell / Time Warner wouldn't give up the traffic that's going to this site.
What's growing is a trend where they do "parallel construction" -- basically, they'll obtain evidence in a way that isn't on the up-and-up, and then magically "find" a way to make it admissible evidence.
I try to stay with providers that I know, doing things that I like, and paying them well. Until I find a nice, no drama, no stress SB. (Ha!
MM.
As a former criminal defense attorney, I can tell you that LEO can use whatever investigation tools they want to as long as it's "legally obtained. ".
This information is posted on the web, basically, for all to see. While I'd like to think that A2 won't splay our IP addresses if they get a subpoena, I can't say that his hosting provider would do the same. Or Cincinnati Bell / Time Warner wouldn't give up the traffic that's going to this site.
What's growing is a trend where they do "parallel construction" -- basically, they'll obtain evidence in a way that isn't on the up-and-up, and then magically "find" a way to make it admissible evidence.
I try to stay with providers that I know, doing things that I like, and paying them well. Until I find a nice, no drama, no stress SB. (Ha!
MM.But you do not know shit about technology. Exactly where would they serve the subpoena and to whom would they serve it?
If they went to our hosts in fucking Malaysia, if they bothered to answer which I doubt because they don't answer us and we give them money what would they give? We don't log IP addresses. If we did, then maybe you might want to google VPN.
If you're using a VPN then Cincy Bell says "uh looks like Nord VPN to me. Which does not log data and does not respond to subpoenas. And all of this for a misdemeanor solicitation charge. They are going to serve subpoenas through the Conventions of the Hague in 5 different countries to hopefully charge some guy with getting a handy?
Yeah, I can see a the not having an issue with that budget.
A2.
Do me a favor next time, before you want to bloviate about how people could get busted why not check yourself first.
I have seen her fairly regular over the last year. I even spoke to her today over her alleged SOC account. Her explanation seems legit to me, though somewhat comical. A lady that can do what she does the way she does it does not need to self review. I even carried way to much $$ with me one time and forgot I had it she had access and nothing was missing. I trust her and her raffle! If ya don't fair enough more time for those of us who do!! Definetly ATF material as I call her World F#cking Champion LOL.
Willow1535
02-25-19, 18:16
A2, I don't know how you do it, but you have the patience of Job for dealing with all of the drama on this site.
I have seen her fairly regular over the last year. I even spoke to her today over her alleged SOC account. Her explanation seems legit to me, though somewhat comical. A lady that can do what she does the way she does it does not need to self review. I even carried way to much $$ with me one time and forgot I had it she had access and nothing was missing. I trust her and her raffle! If ya don't fair enough more time for those of us who do!! Definetly ATF material as I call her World F#cking Champion LOL.
JustACustomer
02-26-19, 01:19
I have seen her fairly regular over the last year. I even spoke to her today over her alleged SOC account. Her explanation seems legit to me, though somewhat comical. A lady that can do what she does the way she does it does not need to self review. I even carried way to much $$ with me one time and forgot I had it she had access and nothing was missing. I trust her and her raffle! If ya don't fair enough more time for those of us who do!! Definetly ATF material as I call her World F#cking Champion LOL.I also chatted with her today, and her explanation seems legit to me also. I think Willie exists as well as Ferrari1977, which I still don't get why his account was banned in the first place. With that in mind, I think the raffle was legitimate and, full disclosure, I was to be the winner if Ferrari1977 had not claimed his prize in 24 hours. I don't know if you guys remember the "King Card" that she introduced with that raffle, but I have logged in the required visits and received my "free one". All this to say that I think she is on the up and up and I commend her for her ingenuity and motivation in marketing for her services. 99% of the other providers on here can not boast anything close. To be honest, thinking about the whole raffle concept, I can't really think of too many providers who I would even care to win a raffle for free time. With Thalia, it is worth something!
And like Santa, I too have arrived with extra money and never had anything come up missing, ever! I would close with my usual YMMV, but with Thalia, it does not vary much. Awesome provider with every visit.
JAC.
But you do not know shit about technology. Exactly where would they serve the subpoena and to whom would they serve it?
If they went to our hosts in fucking Malaysia, if they bothered to answer which I doubt because they don't answer us and we give them money what would they give? We don't log IP addresses. If we did, then maybe you might want to google VPN.
If you're using a VPN then Cincy Bell says "uh looks like Nord VPN to me. Which does not log data and does not respond to subpoenas. And all of this for a misdemeanor solicitation charge. They are going to serve subpoenas through the Conventions of the Hague in 5 different countries to hopefully charge some guy with getting a handy?
Yeah, I can see a the not having an issue with that budget.
A2.
Do me a favor next time, before you want to bloviate about how people could get busted why not check yourself first.This is what's known in the judiciary as a beatdown.
Simp4ebony
02-26-19, 07:47
I also chatted with her today, and her explanation seems legit to me also. I think Willie exists as well as Ferrari1977, which I still don't get why his account was banned in the first place. With that in mind, I think the raffle was legitimate and, full disclosure, I was to be the winner if Ferrari1977 had not claimed his prize in 24 hours. I don't know if you guys remember the "King Card" that she introduced with that raffle, but I have logged in the required visits and received my "free one". All this to say that I think she is on the up and up and I commend her for her ingenuity and motivation in marketing for her services. 99% of the other providers on here can not boast anything close. To be honest, thinking about the whole raffle concept, I can't really think of too many providers who I would even care to win a raffle for free time. With Thalia, it is worth something!
And like Santa, I too have arrived with extra money and never had anything come up missing, ever! I would close with my usual YMMV, but with Thalia, it does not vary much. Awesome provider with every visit.
JAC.I agree! Her explanation makes sense to me. I love my loyalty card. I believe the raffle was real, and I hope I win next time! She has so many stellar reviews here and elsewhere, I don't know why she'd need to fake her own.
I agree! Her explanation makes sense to me. I love my loyalty card. I believe the raffle was real, and I hope I win next time! She has so many stellar reviews here and elsewhere, I don't know why she'd need to fake her own.I thought for sure you would have gotten it. I am sure others thought you was going to get it.
As a former criminal defense attorney, I can tell you that LEO can use whatever investigation tools they want to as long as it's "legally obtained. ".
This information is posted on the web, basically, for all to see. While I'd like to think that A2 won't splay our IP addresses if they get a subpoena, I can't say that his hosting provider would do the same. Or Cincinnati Bell / Time Warner wouldn't give up the traffic that's going to this site.
What's growing is a trend where they do "parallel construction" -- basically, they'll obtain evidence in a way that isn't on the up-and-up, and then magically "find" a way to make it admissible evidence.
I try to stay with providers that I know, doing things that I like, and paying them well. Until I find a nice, no drama, no stress SB. (Ha!
MM.Cameras in the rooms? If so they could be opening themselves up to a law suit as well for the guys or girls that got a legit massage. A couple of weeks ago there was a conversation about some ladies that were video taped and shit hit the fan if memory serves. Also, would they be able to go in to a providers residence? I don't think so. That where our tax money gives relief to one of our own.
Also, most pay cash-lot harder to track shit down.
This may not make sense. But alot of unanswered questions.
MisforMaster
02-27-19, 06:49
Cameras in the rooms? If so they could be opening themselves up to a law suit as well for the guys or girls that got a legit massage. A couple of weeks ago there was a conversation about some ladies that were video taped and shit hit the fan if memory serves. Also, would they be able to go in to a providers residence? I don't think so. That where our tax money gives relief to one of our own.
Also, most pay cash-lot harder to track shit down.
This may not make sense. But alot of unanswered questions.Yes -- the Judge ordered Cameras in the rooms. Sadly, there's no "Expectation of Privacy" shield when it comes to prostitution investigations and stings.
The Judge may sign an order for a Provider's residence -- and honestly, that wouldn't fly in states like Alaska or Vermont, but, it *would* fly in Ohio. Getting the Cameras in without getting caught? That's something completely different. But it has been done before (I remember a case where they taped the couple whose infant died and the audio was so unintelligible that the case got thrown out on appeal a few years ago).
MM.
MisforMaster
02-27-19, 06:57
But you do not know shit about technology. Exactly where would they serve the subpoena and to whom would they serve it?
If they went to our hosts in fucking Malaysia, if they bothered to answer which I doubt because they don't answer us and we give them money what would they give? We don't log IP addresses. If we did, then maybe you might want to google VPN.
If you're using a VPN then Cincy Bell says "uh looks like Nord VPN to me. Which does not log data and does not respond to subpoenas. And all of this for a misdemeanor solicitation charge. They are going to serve subpoenas through the Conventions of the Hague in 5 different countries to hopefully charge some guy with getting a handy?
Yeah, I can see a the not having an issue with that budget.
A2.
Do me a favor next time, before you want to bloviate about how people could get busted why not check yourself first.Look at what they did to Kim Dotcom and Mega. The US put pressure on New Zealand until they basically became the pawns of the MPAA / RIAA. I'm not saying that they'd do it for misdemeanor bullshit, but, if someone was sex traffic'ed here, I guarantee that someone in the HamCo Prosecutor's office would be sending those to the USA in SDOhio and it'd get more interesting from there.
Hell, the US was able to get a carder from Russia arrested and extradited back to the US a few years ago -- from a country that did not have an extradition treaty with the US. (Search for "Track2" if you don't believe me).
I'm not saying it's impossible, but, I'm saying that if there's enough motivation to find someone, they'll push on countries until they get what they want.
Simp4ebony
02-27-19, 07:00
I thought for sure you would have gotten it. I am sure others thought you was going to get it.I believe it was a random drawing. I think she actually tells the truth about all this stuff.
We know you're doing you're job, but take a look at statistics, if you bust all the AMPs in Hamilton there is going to be an enivitable rise in the Homicide rate, check the facts, Lexington had this happen a few years back and at one point they were tied with Cincinnati on Homcides. Just an idea, give a monger a few places to do his business and ignored them, you'll find the crime rate drops and you look great in the public's eye, try it and see!!
My apologies to Admin if this was the wrong place to post this.
So I was discussing the whole GFE, non-GFE, PSE services and it occured to me that for a true PSE, video or still photographer should be offered as part of the package. Otherwise, it's just people vigorously having sex. You can get that with a girlfriend with a healthy sexual appetite. That's not really a porn star experience; just vigorous sex. Maybe use a new term. VSE; vigorous sex experience.
So, chime in. PSE- option for a camera, or no need for an option for a camera? Discuss.
We know you're doing you're job, but take a look at statistics, if you bust all the AMPs in Hamilton there is going to be an enivitable rise in the Homicide rate, check the facts, Lexington had this happen a few years back and at one point they were tied with Cincinnati on Homcides. Just an idea, give a monger a few places to do his business and ignored them, you'll find the crime rate drops and you look great in the public's eye, try it and see!!
My apologies to Admin if this was the wrong place to post this.Uh. Wait. What? So, if I can't visit my local AMP, my obvious next alternative is to, what? Kill somebody? That escalated quickly, as they say. Sorry dude, don't lump me in with that twisted argument.
ThatGuy011
02-28-19, 05:09
Being on camera is a separate matter than any of the acronyms.
With a hooker, or your significant other, it comes down to whether they want to be on camera, and people, even hookers, probably have more reasons not to want sexual activities recorded.
Hillbilly Bob
02-28-19, 09:54
We know you're doing you're job, but take a look at statistics, if you bust all the AMPs in Hamilton there is going to be an enivitable rise in the Homicide rate, check the facts, Lexington had this happen a few years back and at one point they were tied with Cincinnati on Homcides. Just an idea, give a monger a few places to do his business and ignored them, you'll find the crime rate drops and you look great in the public's eye, try it and see!!
My apologies to Admin if this was the wrong place to post this.I have nothing. Don't agree with this. Better recheck you stats.
Being on camera is a separate matter than any of the acronyms.
With a hooker, or your significant other, it comes down to whether they want to be on camera, and people, even hookers, probably have more reasons not to want sexual activities recorded.True, then that's not a PSE. I am not advocating that all providers allow recording. I am just mulling the expected services of a, PSE vs a GFE.
I mean without the camera, what is the real difference between PSE and GFE, or even a QV considering that like a typical porn scene, a QV is about 15 to 20 minutes and end at the pop.
MisforMaster
02-28-19, 14:12
So I was discussing the whole GFE, non-GFE, PSE services and it occured to me that for a true PSE, video or still photographer should be offered as part of the package. Otherwise, it's just people vigorously having sex. You can get that with a girlfriend with a healthy sexual appetite. That's not really a porn star experience; just vigorous sex. Maybe use a new term. VSE; vigorous sex experience.
So, chime in. PSE- option for a camera, or no need for an option for a camera? Discuss.I live my life with the opinion that nobody wants to see my fat ass on camera. Yes, the porn stars who do a full PSE might be ok with it, but, I know that I wouldn't want to be recorded.
MM.
I live my life with the opinion that nobody wants to see my fat ass on camera. Yes, the porn stars who do a full PSE might be ok with it, but, I know that I wouldn't want to be recorded.
MM.I agree, and like you I don't want to watch anything with my ass prominently displayed. However, if we're paying for a PSE, shouldn't it be the choice of the customer though whether or not there is a camera?
It's just like every ala carte option. Just because anal is available doesn't mean I would want to stick my penis in her poop hole. But it nice to know that it's my call.
We know you're doing you're job, but take a look at statistics, if you bust all the AMPs in Hamilton there is going to be an enivitable rise in the Homicide rate, check the facts, Lexington had this happen a few years back and at one point they were tied with Cincinnati on Homcides. Just an idea, give a monger a few places to do his business and ignored them, you'll find the crime rate drops and you look great in the public's eye, try it and see!!
My apologies to Admin if this was the wrong place to post this.I guess you totally buy into that Fatal Sperm Back Up syndrome? Makes people go craaaazzzy
Gunman2013
03-05-19, 10:58
Got a group text at 330 am from.
8597775187 asking me to down load a text app to contact them. Fuck that. Seriously some of these girls are out there.
Stay safe.
Happy Hunting.
Hillbilly Bob
03-05-19, 11:53
Got a group text at 330 am from.
8597775187 asking me to down load a text app to contact them. Fuck that. Seriously some of these girls are out there.
Stay safe.
Happy Hunting.That's bull shit putting your number out there in a group. I had it happen once a few years ago. I text her ripped her ass an BLOCKED her number.
I googled the number and don't think you are missing much not seeing her. Pictures show her with her tongue out but never a smile showing TEETH.
Gunman2013
03-05-19, 15:44
That's bull shit putting your number out there in a group. I had it happen once a few years ago. I text her ripped her ass an BLOCKED her number.
I googled the number and don't think you are missing much not seeing her. Pictures show her with her tongue out but never a smile showing TEETH.Agreed on both accounts.
That's bull shit putting your number out there in a group. I had it happen once a few years ago. I text her ripped her ass an BLOCKED her number.
I googled the number and don't think you are missing much not seeing her. Pictures show her with her tongue out but never a smile showing TEETH.WTF sort of idiot would use a photo in their ad with a kid clearly seen in the photo? Even dumber is the same photo has a filter that covers the provider's face! The drug use has rotted their teeth and their brain.
Vinnie Kramer
03-05-19, 20:16
Believe it or not, Vincent is actually right this time.You sir, are a vacuous gasbag. I'm not sure why you are implying my posts are inaccurate or incorrect, but I have never once posted anything that meets those terms.
You may not agree with my opinion, you may call me out for seeing girls you don't like (which you did once and I laughed about it) but DO NOT post that I am wrong because I am not. At least not here.
I just spent a few minutes reading your 97 posts and you have added zero value to this group. You ask a lot of (stupid and obvious) questions, you have called out other people for doing what you do, and I think you have 3 actual reviews in 97 posts. And, quite frankly, your reviews are so generic I doubt you actually saw any of those girls. If you truly saw Kyla, I suspect I know why she didn't enjoy it. It's because you were there.
So, Liam, friend, go get a big giant cup of STFU and think before you post.
And, don't bother replying because you're about to join the ignore list with Kid Kuddi, so I'll never see it.
Uh. Wait. What? So, if I can't visit my local AMP, my obvious next alternative is to, what? Kill somebody? That escalated quickly, as they say. Sorry dude, don't lump me in with that twisted argument.If you can't normally bust a nut with a woman, one of the eventualities is to kill them. Most serial killers are sexual in the root of their motives. Simple science.
If you can't normally bust a nut with a woman, one of the eventualities is to kill them. Most serial killers are sexual in the root of their motives. Simple science.Sorry, but that's not science. That's just batshit crazy talk.
MisforMaster
03-06-19, 10:08
If you can't normally bust a nut with a woman, one of the eventualities is to kill them. Most serial killers are sexual in the root of their motives. Simple science.Have you been watching Lifetime again?
(A2, please move / mod if out of place -- I realize this probably belongs in the Octagon.).
DaytonSteve
03-06-19, 11:15
If you can't normally bust a nut with a woman, one of the eventualities is to kill them. Most serial killers are sexual in the root of their motives. Simple science.While true that a lot of serial killers have some sort of sexual motivation, you are trying to imply that everyone with a sexual dysfunction or a lack of sex will turn into a serial killer which is quite silly.
Pictraders69
03-06-19, 11:44
Have you been watching Lifetime again?
(A2, please move / mod if out of place -- I realize this probably belongs in the Octagon.).I am just following the thread and agree that this conversation should probably be in the octagon, but my post would be out of context over there. It appears that most of these responses (to the MVD212 and FunLuver posts) are being aimed at MVD212, when, as it appeared to me after reading the thread several times over, the opposing comments were about the original post by FunLuver, not MVD? I'm not a science nut or a history geek, but just because a bunch of crazed serial killers had some sort of sexual dysfunction, does not necessarily, in any way, equate to everyone with a sexual dysfunction being a serial killer, LOL. If that were the case, without AMPs, 90% of guys over 60 would be widowed, single, and / or in prison, LOL.
(Inside comments were meant to be tongue in cheek and primarily intended for 104.7 FM, B&T followers only) thank you for you consideration to this matter.
I am just following the thread and agree that this conversation should probably be in the octagon, but my post would be out of context over there. It appears that most of these responses (to the MVD212 and FunLuver posts) are being aimed at MVD212, when, as it appeared to me after reading the thread several times over, the opposing comments were about the original post by FunLuver, not MVD? I'm not a science nut or a history geek, but just because a bunch of crazed serial killers had some sort of sexual dysfunction, does not necessarily, in any way, equate to everyone with a sexual dysfunction being a serial killer, LOL. If that were the case, without AMPs, 90% of guys over 60 would be widowed, single, and / or in prison, LOL.
(Inside comments were meant to be tongue in cheek and primarily intended for 104.7 FM, B&T followers only) thank you for you consideration to this matter.I am over 60 picture and I can still kill cereal, particularly Raisin Bran. But eating cereal definitely makes my ED dysfunction worse. Or maybe I'm confused.
While true that a lot of serial killers have some sort of sexual motivation, you are trying to imply that everyone with a sexual dysfunction or a lack of sex will turn into a serial killer which is quite silly.No, not everyone. Just that it's a possibility. I specifically did not generalize.
The point is that the first dude was right about AMPs, just let us get off, and the world is a better place.
Sorry, but that's not science. That's just batshit crazy talk.Its science because it's a theory that has been researched and proven many times. You knowing nothing about serial killers doesn't make it untrue.
MollyDaniels
03-07-19, 08:07
Come on guys.
Correlation does not imply causation.
If that were the case, wouldn't Cincy have been filled with serial killers whenever they banned all strip clubs in Cincy?
I am over 60 picture and I can still kill cereal, particularly Raisin Bran. But eating cereal definitely makes my ED dysfunction worse. Or maybe I'm confused.Switch to Trix!
Not crazy about the "Secret Benefits" pop up that starts every time I log in. But I will say as a side note, while all the girls they show are great, the one posing sideways wearing the denim with the open denim shirt is absolutely the shit. What that girl doesn't have she doesn't need. I don't know where they found her but boy if she was a provider I'd be broke in no time.
I'm curious, would you rather pay 20 bucks a month or close a pop under once a day?
A2
Not crazy about the "Secret Benefits" pop up that starts every time I log in. But I will say as a side note, while all the girls they show are great, the one posing sideways wearing the denim with the open denim shirt is absolutely the shit. What that girl doesn't have she doesn't need. I don't know where they found her but boy if she was a provider I'd be broke in no time.
I'm curious, would you rather pay 20 bucks a month or close a pop under once a day?
A2Keep the pop ups please. I will say the jiggly ass one was my favorite.
Keep the pop ups please. I will say the jiggly ass one was my favorite.I use Firefox with the Popup blocker ultimate ad on and it stops it every time.
DaytonSteve
03-07-19, 12:46
No, not everyone. Just that it's a possibility. I specifically did not generalize.
The point is that the first dude was right about AMPs, just let us get off, and the world is a better place.That I agree with, It should be legal, period!
CrissyLynn2015
03-07-19, 13:31
I can't believe I got to write this whole thing again LOL. For some reason it didn't go thru last time [Deleted by Admin]
I was the reason, don't tell guys not to post shit. If they think your apartment is in a sketchy place then they need to post that. If it is and it's costing you money then you need to fix that.
Telling then that it's not your fault who is walking around doesn't mean you aren't responsible for where you decide to run your business. If there are sketchy people walking around it's probably going to cost you business until you fix that.
A2
Cincyfunguy
03-07-19, 19:39
I am just following the thread and agree that this conversation should probably be in the octagon, but my post would be out of context over there. It appears that most of these responses (to the MVD212 and FunLuver posts) are being aimed at MVD212, when, as it appeared to me after reading the thread several times over, the opposing comments were about the original post by FunLuver, not MVD? I'm not a science nut or a history geek, but just because a bunch of crazed serial killers had some sort of sexual dysfunction, does not necessarily, in any way, equate to everyone with a sexual dysfunction being a serial killer, LOL. If that were the case, without AMPs, 90% of guys over 60 would be widowed, single, and / or in prison, LOL.
(Inside comments were meant to be tongue in cheek and primarily intended for 104.7 FM, B&T followers only) thank you for you consideration to this matter.I'm just sayin.
Not crazy about the "Secret Benefits" pop up that starts every time I log in. But I will say as a side note, while all the girls they show are great, the one posing sideways wearing the denim with the open denim shirt is absolutely the shit. What that girl doesn't have she doesn't need. I don't know where they found her but boy if she was a provider I'd be broke in no time.
I'm curious, would you rather pay 20 bucks a month or close a pop under once a day?
A2I was talking about the girl not the annoyance of the pop up. Now that you ask though, probably the 20 bucks. Would give the site more credibility. However was talking about the model.
I don't see the connection between advertising and credibility. Unless you mean that the existence of paid subscriptions would do that. I tend to agree with that viewpoint.
A2
There is no relationship between advertising and credibility, except perhaps the more something is advertised the less likely it is to be what its touted to be, LOL. I wouldn't mind purchasing a subscription to the site, but 20 a month would be more than I think I would pay, 5 or maybe 10 a month. It all adds up. The ads on this site don't bother me at all. My only concern would be that the site would become like cable TV, you have to pay to get it but then all the non-premium channels are full of adds anyway, so in essence we are paying to watch the adds. It sucks. I don't think Jackson would do it, but greed eventually wins and so, sooner or later, even if this were a pay site, there would be adds.
Cheech.
There is no relationship between advertising and credibility, except perhaps the more something is advertised the less likely it is to be what its touted to be, LOL. I wouldn't mind purchasing a subscription to the site, but 20 a month would be more than I think I would pay, 5 or maybe 10 a month. It all adds up. The ads on this site don't bother me at all. My only concern would be that the site would become like cable TV, you have to pay to get it but then all the non-premium channels are full of adds anyway, so in essence we are paying to watch the adds. It sucks. I don't think Jackson would do it, but greed eventually wins and so, sooner or later, even if this were a pay site, there would be adds.
Cheech.Why don't you guys shut the hell up! A2 does a fantastic job with this site just the way it is and I can't believe you're finding fault with it. Don't you have better things to ***** about?
Vinnie Kramer
03-12-19, 10:09
Funny, I actually click on them on a regular basis. Seems a small price to "pay" for this site and I either get a chuckle or learn something like the FKK ads.
Next time I'm in Germany I may partake.
Why don't you guys shut the hell up! A2 does a fantastic job with this site just the way it is and I can't believe you're finding fault with it. Don't you have better things to ***** about?
I agree, A2 does do a great job, and I'm not finding fault with him. I do have an issue with certain policies of the site, however, its Jackson's site, or whoever bought it from him, and as such they have the right to run it however they want to. Also, some things are such political hot potatoes that no one wants to bring serious heat by hosting contrary opinions.
My comment about advertising and greed and so on, however, are I think true. Few things rise to the expectations generated by ads. Think hamburgers, cars, women, LOL. And, eventually Jackson and A2 will give up control of the site, either thru age, or retirement, or whatever. Eventually we'll be paying for access AND watching ads too.
Cheech.
Hillbilly Bob
03-13-19, 10:46
Why don't you guys shut the hell up! A2 does a fantastic job with this site just the way it is and I can't believe you're finding fault with it. Don't you have better things to ***** about?I have no problem with A2's running of the site.
What I have a problem with is you telling people to shut up. That's what this site is about voicing their opinions.
WanderingAbout
03-18-19, 15:07
If interested the Baltimore mongers video with Cassie is on xvideos search Cincinnati. If you know her you will see it.
WanderingAbout
03-20-19, 08:17
Since people were asking about how they missed the videos of BaltimoreX for Cassie and Saffy in another thread.
You can also find a dozen Saffy videos posted by her bf on xvideos. Search Saffy then click on video poster name holepunishment.
If interested the Baltimore mongers video with Cassie is on xvideos search Cincinnati. If you know her you will see it.
MisforMaster
03-20-19, 18:43
Let's hope that none of our favorite providers were busted today when RENU went out to play.
MM.
Sir LanceLicksalot
03-20-19, 18:52
Since people were asking about how they missed the videos of BaltimoreX for Cassie and Saffy in another thread.
You can also find a dozen Saffy videos posted by her bf on xvideos. Search Saffy then click on video poster name holepunishment.I found some of the videos and there is a whole different side to Saffy that I never would have thought about her.
It really means? 1. I know what you want and if you contact me baby I will give you whatever you want that you need and are not getting at home!
2. Look at my picture big boy spreading my pussy lips and wonder what it would be like for you to put that big dick in between them and how much you would love the feeling of your cock sliding in my pussy?
3. Cum and get me big boy and fill it up ya know ya want to. 4. Yes baby I will do all of the things you dream of and more. Cum see me and let momma.
Make you hard until you bust that big nut you have inside.
4. If you can make me squirt no matter how you do it this pussy is on me. Show me what ya got and if ya know how to use it.
5. and my favorite, all three are open and I want your hot nut butter in all three, make me feel like a woman and I will make you feel like a man.
These are just a few of the wonderful encouragments you can read on the boards until you contact the ladies who wrote them and then you get that standard bull shit response, well that isn't what I really meant. JMO Ladies but if you put up the goods and spread the playing field be willing to play the full game. The old saying I won't waste your time so please don't waste mine works both ways. I love my PSE psy and a lot of the men and women on here do. PM backchannel if you want to fk the old fashioned way. Variations accepted of course. Don't advertise the goods if ya can't deliver the products. JMO.
Cincyfunguy
03-20-19, 21:29
Let's hope that none of our favorite providers were busted today when RENU went out to play.
MM.Excuse my ignorance, but what is RENU?
Excuse my ignorance, but what is RENU?Regional Enforcement Narcotics Unit.
WhereDreamsGo
03-24-19, 09:44
Just posted the story about Portsmouth over in the news section. This follows Robert Kraft's arrest at what very likely was a human trafficking operation in Florida. There too while the feds bloviated about "human trafficking," they seem to have done little or nothing to go after the actual traffickers bringing women into the country either by coercion or deception. That's because these folks I suspect operate very much above the law or beyond the law, such as the Chinese woman who used to own that spa Kraft got busted at, was also watching the Super Bowl with Trump at Mar-a-Lago this year, and is a frequent Republican fundraiser, who is also quite possibly a Chinese government agent who uses massage parlors or connections to their operators to ingratiate herself to powerful people or get compromising information on them. Kraft and the other guys are getting offered a plea deal where they don't even plea guilty or get a conviction on their records, even though they've got apparently legit video of them all doing the entire transaction multiple times. I will bet no one seriously upstream in the "trafficking" operation ever gets busted.
All this crap is one reason I've never been a fan, or a user, of AMPs, and why I stopped seeing any providers, be they Asian or East European or Latina, who don't speak English, or not very well, and who I suspect may be trafficked. It's one reason, besides the additional hassle often involved, that I don't use third-party services, at least knowingly.
I do remember like the second provider I ever saw. It was in New Orleans. I was close to completely ignorant. Called some service and they said they were sending out a Malaysian girl. I was expecting Asian Malaysian, but she was very dark skinned, African / Indian Malaysian. But what the hell, she was there. I was dumb enough to be trying to pay with a credit card, though, and it wouldn't go. I didn't have the cash and told them sorry, next time. But after the girl got off the phone, she basically offered to do it for the cash I had on hand, off the books from her handlers. We both had a good time. She called her handlers after and they didn't have anyone for the rest of the night. She didn't really have anywhere else to go, it didn't sound like, and the hotel was nice, so she asked to just spend the night. I liked her, so said OK, she did, left in the morning, no problem. Not sure whatever happened to her. She didn't seem like a victim that night, because she was pretty happy with how things turned out. But I also felt sorry for her.
EastSideGuy34
03-25-19, 16:48
I've had five dreams in a row thwarted by the crickets. I just don't get it. Here's a list of the providers lately that I've tried where no dream came to be:
Paige. Been wanting to try her for two months. Got a reply one time in 20 attempts and then nothing after.
Allurah. Read a couple good reviews so I tried. Zilch.
Cookie. Finally heard from her after 5 tries. Not available until later apparently.
Jesse Jane. Two attempts. Nothing.
Envy. Four attempts. Nothing.
LexiLauren. My last dream two months ago. Nothing now.
A handful more that I don't recall now. Crickets!
Any recommendations? Rant over.
Just posted the story about Portsmouth over in the news section. This follows Robert Kraft's arrest at what very likely was a human trafficking operation in Florida.
She didn't seem like a victim that night, because she was pretty happy with how things turned out. But I also felt sorry for her.Through my time in the hobby I have had several tell me that they got started looking for a high and that they were then given harder stuff by dealers to get them hooked for free, then made them do the dealers favors till they were trained, then sent out in the streets to start earning to pay for their new habit.
MarblesKyle
03-26-19, 08:17
I've had five dreams in a row thwarted by the crickets. I just don't get it. Here's a list of the providers lately that I've tried where no dream came to be:
Paige. Been wanting to try her for two months. Got a reply one time in 20 attempts and then nothing after.
Allurah. Read a couple good reviews so I tried. Zilch.
Cookie. Finally heard from her after 5 tries. Not available until later apparently.
Jesse Jane. Two attempts. Nothing.
Envy. Four attempts. Nothing.
LexiLauren. My last dream two months ago. Nothing now.
A handful more that I don't recall now. Crickets!
Any recommendations? Rant over.You aren't alone. I've not seen any of them, yet I've tried to contact half of them. I'd add Kyla to that list, at least for me. Over probably 5 attempts to contact her, she has responded once. There was a little back and fourth and then crickets. I know she's in demand so I'm not terribly shocked or bothered. I'll keep trying here and there and see if I hit.
I've come the closest with Allurah, but lately our schedules just aren't lining up. I'll go 2-3 days without a response and then try again and she'll randomly respond. She cancelled a few dreams on me a few months back, and one of them was last minute. Frustrating, but it is what it is. I imagine these girls are bombarded by text messages 24/7 so I try to cut them some slack.
I've never gotten a response from Kookie or Envy. I stopped trying. Was really trying to get Kookie just based on the good reviews, that body type doesn't really excite me, nor do all the stories I've heard about Uncle LEO being a big part of her life.
I'll keep trying with Allurah. Although communication has always been spotty with her, in her defense I have cancelled a dream with her too, so it probably could have happened once. Hopefully I make something happen in the next few weeks. Maybe she gets better once she knows ya.
I'm new to the local game but it's been frustrating thus far. In about 8 dreams I'd say one or two have lived up to their hype. Hard to tell what you are really getting into until you show up at the door. I've seen glowing reviews on dreams that I wouldn't take if they were free, and I'm no prize either. Different strokes, I guess. I'm not going to flame any providers, none of them have been rude to me. I've felt safe in most experiences. None of them ripped me off, etc. I'll keep grinding, there's good ones out there, you just got to find them.
Let's face it, if they were 9's and 10's with clean and safe incalls they wouldn't be SW's.
Keep your head up and stay safe.
UOnlyLiveOnce
03-27-19, 21:18
Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?
I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.
If you want to stay married don't play with married or single women who know you are married outside the hobby. Yes you might get very lucky and meet a nympho, but chances are the receptive women will eventually want something more from you. I have had opportunities but not pursued because the women are unhappy with their lives and will eventually seek more from you. And so ends your marriage. So unless you are so attractive that all women just want a chance to bed such a gorgeous hunk of a man, don't do it.
KC.
Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?
I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.
Tickle Jay
03-28-19, 03:43
I'm in the same boat. But there are fewer and fewer Hobby Girls here that I feel comfortable with. Side pieces can cause trouble, and no one is going to approach me looking for a good time. Fortunately, I get a few out of state trips, and plan my fun there. I'm only a couple weeks away from a trip to see some outstanding Asian girls. It's a tough market in which to get verified, so I'm doing my homework in order to make the most of it.
Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across ver.y many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?
I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.
Simp4ebony
03-28-19, 07:54
Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?
I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.
I've seen friends have their girlfriends eventually get pissed and confront wife. I'm not trying to have anything remotely like that even be possible. Well worth the price of admission, in my view. (Plus, at my age and physical level, I'd never make girlfriends with hot black girls in their 20's!)
Vinnie Kramer
03-28-19, 09:36
In my (painful) experience, a non-escort hookup is actually more risk. It's almost impossible that someone doesn't end up wanting more which leads to trouble / confrontation.
Risk doubles if she has a SO.
If you want to stay married don't play with married or single women who know you are married outside the hobby. Yes you might get very lucky and meet a nympho, but chances are the receptive women will eventually want something more from you. I have had opportunities but not pursued because the women are unhappy with their lives and will eventually seek more from you. And so ends your marriage. So unless you are so attractive that all women just want a chance to bed such a gorgeous hunk of a man, don't do it.
KC.
In my (painful) experience, a non-escort hookup is actually more risk. It's almost impossible that someone doesn't end up wanting more which leads to trouble / confrontation.
Risk doubles if she has a SO.The Arrangements / Benefits sites are an option. I had decent luck on there (although one of the ladies was essentially an escort). You're paying, so it's still mostly a business transaction, but I feel like I got lucky and met a couple of ladies who were also married (in open marriages) so it felt like no one was going to be looking for more than what we had.
WanderingAbout
03-29-19, 21:22
https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Police-Couple-arrested-for-having-sex-on-Cincinnati-ferris-wheel-507833721.html
I've had five dreams in a row thwarted by the crickets. I just don't get it. Here's a list of the providers lately that I've tried where no dream came to be:
Paige. Been wanting to try her for two months. Got a reply one time in 20 attempts and then nothing after.
Seen her once and enjoyed myself, the other time I drove to her place ( where I did not feel comfortable) and she said that she had no bed and went crickets
Allurah. Read a couple good reviews so I tried. Zilch.
Same here
Cookie. Finally heard from her after 5 tries. Not available until later apparently.
Tried many times to no avail
Jesse Jane. Two attempts. Nothing.
Envy. Four attempts. Nothing.
I tried for over a month and got no response
LexiLauren. My last dream two months ago. Nothing now.
A handful more that I don't recall now. Crickets!
Any recommendations? Rant over.Paige. Been wanting to try her for two months. Got a reply one time in 20 attempts and then nothing after.
Seen her once and enjoyed myself, the other time I drove to her place (where I did not feel comfortable) and she said that she had no bed and went crickets.
Allurah. Read a couple good reviews so I tried. Zilch.
Same here.
Cookie. Finally heard from her after 5 tries. Not available until later apparently.
Tried many times to no avail.
Envy. Four attempts. Nothing.
I tried for over a month and got no response.
Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?
I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.Before the app and website changed, I found 3 relationships of various lengths with "poly" chicks on OK Cupid. My last ongoing relationship from there, which lasted about a year and a half, ended in Feb. When the girl moved out of state. I have had no luck yet with finding another free online dating site that works as well as the old OKC site did for locating women who want to hookup with married men. I suppose there are some sites that require paid memberships that may serve that demographic, but after Ashley Madison was exposed as being basically a fraud, I'm not eager to pay money just to get my hopes up for nothing. I'd rather put money towards a sure thing, instead.
Simp4ebony
03-31-19, 13:56
Guys, have any of you ever found an ATF so great, that you worry you will be disappointed if you see someone else?
Most mornings, just out of routine, I check this site and ads, even though I only get out about once a month. Don't know why. Just my thing I guess. But I pretty much only see Thalia. To me, she is perfect, and I'm fearful of losing my donation to another girl who doesn't make me feel like Thalia does.
But, for whatever reason, this girl has got my attention, and she'll be here till tomorrow night: https://escortalligator.com.cincinnati.listcrawler.com/last_phone_post/5024657375.
Has anyone seen her?
If not, how do you guys, especially with limited discretionary spending, weigh an ATF against a stranger?? I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO DO! LOL.
JustACustomer
03-31-19, 15:12
Guys, have any of you ever found an ATF so great, that you worry you will be disappointed if you see someone else?
Most mornings, just out of routine, I check this site and ads, even though I only get out about once a month. Don't know why. Just my thing I guess. But I pretty much only see Thalia. To me, she is perfect, and I'm fearful of losing my donation to another girl who doesn't make me feel like Thalia does.
But, for whatever reason, this girl has got my attention, and she'll be here till tomorrow night: https://escortalligator.com.cincinnati.listcrawler.com/last_phone_post/5024657375.
Has anyone seen her?
If not, how do you guys, especially with limited discretionary spending, weigh an ATF against a stranger?? I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO DO! LOL.Cool thing about this forum is it accomplishes the very thing you are asking about. Check reviews of both providers, maybe even see if the same client has seen them both and plan accordingly. Personally, I have not seen the other girl, so can't help you there.
Simp4ebony
03-31-19, 15:33
Cool thing about this forum is it accomplishes the very thing you are asking about. Check reviews of both providers, maybe even see if the same client has seen them both and plan accordingly. Personally, I have not seen the other girl, so can't help you there.I'm predicting no one has seen the other girl! So I need advice on my reasoning! LOL.
JustACustomer
03-31-19, 15:35
I'm predicting no one has seen the other girl! So I need advice on my reasoning! LOL.Go with the sure thing then if there are no reviews of the other girl. LOL.
I'm predicting no one has seen the other girl! So I need advice on my reasoning! LOL.You might try looking in the Louisville board or ask them if anyone seen her. She has lots of ads on Louisville E. B.
Stay Safe MN.
Crissylynn2000
04-01-19, 07:43
So I don't see many of the girls using these threads but I'm going to still put this out there and maybe one of you lovely ladies can help me out LOL.
For some reason my username changed by itself from crissylynn2015 to crissylynn2000 . Its so strange. Just wondering if any ladies had this happen. Xoxo thanks.
That's not possible, what happened was you created a new user. Crissylynn2015 is still an active account.
A2
ItsTimeToEat
04-02-19, 08:51
I had been talking to a FB chic for a long time and out of the blue she wanted to meet up. I rocked her world (her words not mine) that night and I have been hitting it ever since. I have a 3-hole access pass whenever I want it and she cooks dinner most times I'm at her place. The big thing is that after banging the living daylights out of Crissee, Gypsy Rae and Brookee in their prime has made me a stud in this girls eyes. It's an awesome deal and I'm riding the fuck train as long as I can. This hobby definitely has its benefits with confidence and stamina when it comes to sex. Actually going to fuck her tonight as well. Sorry it has reduced my reviews lately as a result.
Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?
I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.
I agree with your line of thought here. Getting into the hobby certainly helped me bring more "zing" into my standard activities at home. Sometimes I have to remember not to overdo things as I don't want to raise a red flag. Excellent point!
I had been talking to a FB chic for a long time and out of the blue she wanted to meet up. I rocked her world (her words not mine) that night and I have been hitting it ever since. I have a 3-hole access pass whenever I want it and she cooks dinner most times I'm at her place. The big thing is that after banging the living daylights out of Crissee, Gypsy Rae and Brookee in their prime has made me a stud in this girls eyes. It's an awesome deal and I'm riding the fuck train as long as I can. This hobby definitely has its benefits with confidence and stamina when it comes to sex. Actually going to fuck her tonight as well. Sorry it has reduced my reviews lately as a result.
I agree with your line of thought here. Getting into the hobby certainly helped me bring more "zing" into my standard activities at home. Sometimes I have to remember not to overdo things as I don't want to raise a red flag. Excellent point!When Phoebe7 was around and active, I always used to tell her that she brought out my "inner porn star. " This hobby has definitely broadened my horizons!
So I don't see many of the girls using these threads but I'm going to still put this out there and maybe one of you lovely ladies can help me out LOL.
For some reason my username changed by itself from crissylynn2015 to crissylynn2000 . Its so strange. Just wondering if any ladies had this happen. Xoxo thanks.
That's not possible, what happened was you created a new user. Crissylynn2015 is still an active account.
A2Come on now you are on some good stuff lmfao.
Dick Morehead
04-03-19, 20:26
Come on now you are on some good stuff lmfao.Looks to me like the old adage any news is good news! When things are slow because you blow customers off, are a smart ass, and don't give a fuk until you need something (business ie money) you can just act like 'you are on some good stuff' to attract attention. Kind of funny some things never change, kind of but not really.
Crissylynn2000
04-04-19, 11:31
Come on now you are on some good stuff lmfao.No I'm serious. It kept locking me out cause password, I kept trying to change it or fix it and then all the sudden this crissylynn2000 pops up. Why would I change my account? I have a great reputation and all my reviews are good ig not great. I love this site. I've madd a ton of friends and have met some really cool people. No reason to chamge my account or make a new one. I honestly have no clue whar happend. It even says even I get emails. You have a private message crissylynn2015 but thn sends me to this crissylynn2000 page! I askd for genuine help not people to make fun of me because I don't understand something about the site. And to whoever was saying blowing people off or whatever. Mh reviews speak for themselves. I've always had a good repor with most everyone on here. I've shown respect and treat everyone with kindness or try to.
What you're describing isn't possible. Additionally we have around 400,000 members and nobody else is reporting it. I'm thinking it's something you are doing.
There is ABSOLUTELY no doubt that the other account is active and working.
A2
I had been talking to a FB chic for a long time and out of the blue she wanted to meet up. I rocked her world (her words not mine) that night and I have been hitting it ever since. I have a 3-hole access pass whenever I want it and she cooks dinner most times I'm at her place. The big thing is that after banging the living daylights out of Crissee, Gypsy Rae and Brookee in their prime has made me a stud in this girls eyes. It's an awesome deal and I'm riding the fuck train as long as I can. This hobby definitely has its benefits with confidence and stamina when it comes to sex. Actually going to fuck her tonight as well. Sorry it has reduced my reviews lately as a result.The only women I've seen in the past 7 or 8 years have been hobby girls and I think it definitely warped my sense of normal dating etiquette, which makes me kinda afraid to try "real online dating" these days. I'm so used to walking into a girl's room and start slurping on her nipples and massaging her ass within 20 seconds of her closing the door LOL. I've become far too comfy with telling a gal to "get lower" on the bed while she's sucking me and tying back her hair so I can get a better view of her lips working my tip and shaft. And of course I feel no guilt when I splooge all over a girl's face or inject a big load of nut butter in her mouth without even giving a passing thought to tonguing her giner to return the favor!
So yeah, this hobby can definitely improve your stud factor and sex techniques with the "real world ladies" but I think it really messes up your expectations of what a normal date is supposed to be. I recall how many times in my 20's I thought I was going to separate a girl from her panties but ended up getting just a peck on the cheek and then driving home with a set of blue balls and relieving myself to a Jenna Jameson compilation on VHS ha ha ha!!
UOnlyLiveOnce
04-04-19, 15:04
The only women I've seen in the past 7 or 8 years have been hobby girls and I think it definitely warped my sense of normal dating etiquette, which makes me kinda afraid to try "real online dating" these days. I'm so used to walking into a girl's room and start slurping on her nipples and massaging her ass within 20 seconds of her closing the door LOL. I've become far too comfy with telling a gal to "get lower" on the bed while she's sucking me and tying back her hair so I can get a better view of her lips working my tip and shaft. And of course I feel no guilt when I splooge all over a girl's face or inject a big load of nut butter in her mouth without even giving a passing thought to tonguing her giner to return the favor!
So yeah, this hobby can definitely improve your stud factor and sex techniques with the "real world ladies" but I think it really messes up your expectations of what a normal date is supposed to be. I recall how many times in my 20's I thought I was going to separate a girl from her panties but ended up getting just a peck on the cheek and then driving home with a set of blue balls and relieving myself to a Jenna Jameson compilation on VHS ha ha ha!!Kind of the same for me. The hobby does have the advantage of knowing the panties are going to be dropped, but it doesn't change the fact that panties are a lot harder to get into outside the hobby.
UOnlyLiveOnce
04-04-19, 15:07
Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?
I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.Who responded to this question. To the guys who said something along the lines of side pieces outside the hobby are more trouble than they're worth, I get where you're coming from. But it would still be nice to get a side piece or two before I'm too old to realistically get one without having to pay cash for it.
Kind of the same for me. The hobby does have the advantage of knowing the panties are going to be dropped, but it doesn't change the fact that panties are a lot harder to get into outside the hobby.100% truth. I really wonder if I still got game like I did back in the 90's when I would routinely score some trim off those AOL chat rooms without having to pay a cent, except for maybe dinner or a movie.
All I know is that I better be careful because in today's world you can be charged with attempted sexual assault if you so much as sniff a lady's hair during a date or grab her waist while waiting in line for popcorn at the cinema. I've become way too accustomed to undressing a girl before the echo of the door slamming shut has finished reverberating around the room. This hobby makes getting ass look way too easy.
MagnifiRod
04-04-19, 18:19
Married guys, are any of you getting action from chicks who are not in the hobby? As in, from chicks you're not paying. If you are, where or how are you meeting them? Are you even coming across very many women in everyday life who are down to f&ck a married guy?
I'm married, but the only action I get is from the hobby. I expect to indulge in the hobby to one degree or another for as long as my equipment works, but I could really use some side pieces that don't involve donations or our least favorite Uncle.I am about to get into a relationship with a really hot girl who found me on Wechat. She's married and lonely and wants someone to talk to. I know where this is going. The problem is she's local and both of us a married. The temptation to go forward is great.
Crissylynn2000
04-05-19, 07:08
No I'm serious. It kept locking me out cause password, I kept trying to change it or fix it and then all the sudden this crissylynn2000 pops up. Why would I change my account? I have a great reputation and all my reviews are good ig not great. I love this site. I've madd a ton of friends and have met some really cool people. No reason to chamge my account or make a new one. I honestly have no clue whar happend. It even says even I get emails. You have a private message crissylynn2015 but thn sends me to this crissylynn2000 page! I askd for genuine help not people to make fun of me because I don't understand something about the site. And to whoever was saying blowing people off or whatever. Mh reviews speak for themselves. I've always had a good repor with most everyone on here. I've shown respect and treat everyone with kindness or try to.
What you're describing isn't possible. Additionally we have around 400,000 members and nobody else is reporting it. I'm thinking it's something you are doing.
There is ABSOLUTELY no doubt that the other account is active and working.
A2I attached screenshots of my login process. Is there anyway to get me back to my crissylynn2015 account a2 for real LOL.
I attached screenshots of my login process. Is there anyway to get me back to my crissylynn2015 account a2 for real LOL.Crissylynn2000 and crissylynn2015 are both ACTIVE accounts. Neither of them has been banned, neither of them are restricted beyond being provider accounts. The email you used for both accounts is the same so I assume you have access to it. I sent you a password change message so do that. If you can't then it's on your side, if you need me to I'll change your password and log into your old account and post with it but there is NOTHING I CAN do here. If you can't figure out how to log in then the problem is bigger than I can solve.
If you have problems with the big words get somebody to explain them to you because I can't explain this more simply.
A2
DaytonSteve
04-05-19, 19:45
Have a monger help you.
You need to log out of the 2000 account and it might help to delete the login credentials and start from scratch logging into the 2015 account.
Have a monger help you.
You need to log out of the 2000 account and it might help to delete the login credentials and start from scratch logging into the 2015 account.Maybe clear your history (cookies) too.
LL.
Crissylynn2000 and crissylynn2015 are both ACTIVE accounts. Neither of them has been banned, neither of them are restricted beyond being provider accounts. The email you used for both accounts is the same so I assume you have access to it. I sent you a password change message so do that. If you can't then it's on your side, if you need me to I'll change your password and log into your old account and post with it but there is NOTHING I CAN do here. If you can't figure out how to log in then the problem is bigger than I can solve.
If you have problems with the big words get somebody to explain them to you because I can't explain this more simply.
A2Think A2 is owed a an occasional freebie for his help? Not an offer BTW.
CrissyLynn2015
04-07-19, 22:08
Crissylynn2000 and crissylynn2015 are both ACTIVE accounts. Neither of them has been banned, neither of them are restricted beyond being provider accounts. The email you used for both accounts is the same so I assume you have access to it. I sent you a password change message so do that. If you can't then it's on your side, if you need me to I'll change your password and log into your old account and post with it but there is NOTHING I CAN do here. If you can't figure out how to log in then the problem is bigger than I can solve.
If you have problems with the big words get somebody to explain them to you because I can't explain this more simply.
A2It finally worked and I do appreciate it. Help with what big words? There are none to need help with or am I confused. I do appreciate you helping me out but font appreciate you basically making me out to be an uneducated female which is VERY far from the truth A2. Smh. As I said prior. I have no idea how that 2000 came about. I didn't make it. Thats why I was so confused by it. Don't ask how ir was made because I have no idea. As I said before. I was locked out of my original 2015 and then all the sudden this 2000 one popped up. Literally out of no where and surely not made by me. When it sends private emails to my gmail. It says crissylynn2015 you have mail. Then was sending me straight to the 2000 account. I was baffled by it and that's why I requested your assistance. Idk why some of you choose to be so rude or act as tho I don't have a solid ass rep or as if I'm some sort of addict retard smh. Its disappointing to be honest. As I've said many of times, I've been nothing but respectful, polite and try my best to keep my reputation on point on this site and to all the members as well as A2. Anyways just wanted to thank you for sending that to me because it did finally work and am glad to be back on my favorite site! Even tho I have unfavorable people on it. Pros outweigh cons by far. Xoxo.
It finally worked and I do appreciate it. Help with what big words? There are none to need help with or am I confused. I do appreciate you helping me out but font appreciate you basically making me out to be an uneducated female which is VERY far from the truth A2. Smh. As I said prior. I have no idea how that 2000 came about. I didn't make it. Thats why I was so confused by it. Don't ask how ir was made because I have no idea. As I said before. I was locked out of my original 2015 and then all the sudden this 2000 one popped up. Literally out of no where and surely not made by me. When it sends private emails to my gmail. It says crissylynn2015 you have mail. Then was sending me straight to the 2000 account. I was baffled by it and that's why I requested your assistance. Idk why some of you choose to be so rude or act as tho I don't have a solid ass rep or as if I'm some sort of addict retard smh. Its disappointing to be honest. As I've said many of times, I've been nothing but respectful, polite and try my best to keep my reputation on point on this site and to all the members as well as A2. Anyways just wanted to thank you for sending that to me because it did finally work and am glad to be back on my favorite site! Even tho I have unfavorable people on it. Pros outweigh cons by far. Xoxo.I didn't treat you as an uneducated FEMALE (that was your spin and I think it's terrible that you think only women can be stupid) I treated you as somebody who was refusing to listen to the answers to the questions they were asking and instead simply keep insisting that something beyond their control was happening.
You're insistence that you have no idea who the 2000 account happened is the same thing. There is ONE way that account happened and it happened like this.
Somebody with access to YOUR email account registered it, and then as a SECOND step validated it through a link that was sent in an email to YOUR account. Then somebody who was logged into that account opened that email and clicked on that link otherwise you wouldn't have been able to post. There is NO other way that could have happened and you're still saying that it appeared as magic. It appeared because you, or somebody who has access to YOUR email account created and validated it.
None of that has ANYTHING to do with your gender nor did I imply that it did, there are idiots of both genders on this forum so I suggest you check YOUR sexist assumptions at the door next time.
A2.
It's been a long time since I visited the Octagon. Gladly, nothing much seems to have changed. This is Colleen, my second time with her. I spent nearly six hours with her and another lady last Friday. As you can see, Colleen is a full Bush lady. Rare for me these days. She is also a spitter, but no one is perfect!
Cincyman513
04-10-19, 17:08
100% truth. I really wonder if I still got game like I did back in the 90's when I would routinely score some trim off those AOL chat rooms without having to pay a cent, except for maybe dinner or a movie.
All I know is that I better be careful because in today's world you can be charged with attempted sexual assault if you so much as sniff a lady's hair during a date or grab her waist while waiting in line for popcorn at the cinema. I've become way too accustomed to undressing a girl before the echo of the door slamming shut has finished reverberating around the room. This hobby makes getting ass look way too easy.Those were FABULOUS times.
CM513.
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