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Dillsborodave
02-04-18, 02:20
But you ought to wash your hands before sex. Sanitary reasons.LOL! If I was a sex worker I would request my client to take a shower than wash hands.
DaytonSteve
02-04-18, 11:16
"The station spoke to one doctor that claims that 80% of all cold, flu, and super respiratory infections as well as diarrheal illness are passed along to others by their hands."
Remember boys and girls, just like they taught us in elementary school, Hand washing is the first line of defense.
But you ought to wash your hands before sex. Sanitary reasons.
LOL! If I was a sex worker I would request my client to take a shower than wash hands.And cut your fucking fingernails for christ sake! LOL.
She has so many good reviews never dreamed of anything happening like that. She had an attitude before I got there by some texts not being translated correctly. Another thing I thought was strange is she told me to wash my hands. LOL Are we cooking food or having sex? If she would have grabbed my money before I did I would have had to get the cops involved. It was a bad situation but I guess it could have been worse. I feel like I should give her a negative review for this on the other site but I know I would end up being the bad guy because everybody else seems to love her.They wouldn't post it over there anyway. Think that place is on autopilot or something.
But you ought to wash your hands before sex. Sanitary reasons.Yes! Wash your hands. They can pick up an extraordinary amount of germs, bacteria, viruses in a relatively short amount of time. The reason for some providers wanting you to do that could be that their personal levels of interior bacteria can be thrown off balance easier than others and do not want extra risk of a yeast infection. Several providers have asked me this in the past and I was not offended, but showed to me they have a higher than average care for personal protection!!
MyWayTooPlay
02-04-18, 16:44
Fellow Mongers,
I don't rant often. Actually very rare. But I find it interesting that providers have no problem changing numbers for safety and being discreet. Etc. So why is it an issue when us Mongers do the same? I can't tell how much scrutiny one gets for being extra discreet and changing numbers etc. I prefer to use one number of a limited amount of time and then change it up. It keeps the SO etc off the trail and keeps me discreet. So ladies, please understand. You do it and so can we. Often times it's for the same reason as you. We all want to remain discreet and safe. Enjoy the game!
Myway! .
MontgomeryMm67
02-04-18, 17:43
Been doing this for over 20 years and just had the worst experience ever. In a nutshell I had an out of town provider be very condescending to me upon my arrival. Laid the money down and then said something condescending to me again. I could tell this wasn't going to go well and mentioned to her my feelings. Then she tried to steal my money and threatened me when I grabbed it up quicker than her. I would call her out but this woman is well reviewed and highly praised on another site. After she saw I wasn't too scared of her fighting me she got between me and the door and said she was going to blacklist me from the other site if I didn't give her 200 dollars. I said go ahead and she finally let me pass. I guess the moral of the story is stick to locals and the good women you know. I have an awesome regular but just wanted to try something new and different. If you would like more info on this ordeal you can pm me. I will say she was from Pittsburgh.I want to thank Dillsboro Dave for allowing me to use his time with said Pittsburgh Provider on Friday afternoon. I had seen said providet at 7:45 am on Friday and she gives a BBBJ to die for but I digress. I had never sern this provider and was excited as was Dillsboro Dave to see her because of her stellar reviews. She asked me the moment I walked in to wash my hands and by golly, I went to the bathroom, lathered up my hands, washed thouroughly, rinsed, dried and placed my envelop of entry to her world on the counter and enjoyed a superb hour of her time. In fact I was so happy, I texted back at 2 pm when I had a work meeting cancel and I asked if she had time and said she did because she had just asked a Monger to leave. So I went back, she opened the door and asked me to wash my hands and I did so with such anticipation. I again experienced her amazing BBBJ and the hottest CG and RCG imaginable. So thanks to Mr. Thinskin, I had quite the day, but hey he "saved" some money and some "honor" by telling that condescending mean provider he was not going to wash his hands. RIDICULOUS!
Yes! Wash your hands. They can pick up an extraordinary amount of germs, bacteria, viruses in a relatively short amount of time. The reason for some providers wanting you to do that could be that their personal levels of interior bacteria can be thrown off balance easier than others and do not want extra risk of a yeast infection. Several providers have asked me this in the past and I was not offended, but showed to me they have a higher than average care for personal protection!!On days I meet a provider, it's always a double shower day. Right before the appointment, and immediately after. I also request that providers be freshly showered when I see them. It has never been an issue when I ask; no one has balked at the request yet.
Dillsborodave
02-05-18, 03:16
I want to thank Dillsboro Dave for allowing me to use his time with said Pittsburgh Provider on Friday afternoon. I had seen said providet at 7:45 am on Friday and she gives a BBBJ to die for but I digress. I had never sern this provider and was excited as was Dillsboro Dave to see her because of her stellar reviews. She asked me the moment I walked in to wash my hands and by golly, I went to the bathroom, lathered up my hands, washed thouroughly, rinsed, dried and placed my envelop of entry to her world on the counter and enjoyed a superb hour of her time. In fact I was so happy, I texted back at 2 pm when I had a work meeting cancel and I asked if she had time and said she did because she had just asked a Monger to leave. So I went back, she opened the door and asked me to wash my hands and I did so with such anticipation. I again experienced her amazing BBBJ and the hottest CG and RCG imaginable. So thanks to Mr. Thinskin, I had quite the day, but hey he "saved" some money and some "honor" by telling that condescending mean provider he was not going to wash his hands. RIDICULOUS!If you read my post you would understand that the problem is the ***** tried to rip me off. I see you have 3 posts on this site and only been on the other site since 2015 so don't try to tell me what is ridiculous.
I want to thank Dillsboro Dave for allowing me to use his time with said Pittsburgh Provider on Friday afternoon. I had seen said providet at 7:45 am on Friday and she gives a BBBJ to die for but I digress. I had never sern this provider and was excited as was Dillsboro Dave to see her because of her stellar reviews. She asked me the moment I walked in to wash my hands and by golly, I went to the bathroom, lathered up my hands, washed thouroughly, rinsed, dried and placed my envelop of entry to her world on the counter and enjoyed a superb hour of her time. In fact I was so happy, I texted back at 2 pm when I had a work meeting cancel and I asked if she had time and said she did because she had just asked a Monger to leave. So I went back, she opened the door and asked me to wash my hands and I did so with such anticipation. I again experienced her amazing BBBJ and the hottest CG and RCG imaginable. So thanks to Mr. Thinskin, I had quite the day, but hey he "saved" some money and some "honor" by telling that condescending mean provider he was not going to wash his hands. RIDICULOUS!Your spelling isn't too high on the list either. None of this was about his washing up. He already stated they had a misunderstanding over text and she had a case of the ass when he arrived. Nice white knighting though.
I bolded your statement up there. I just want to point out I can imagine quite a bit. You may be lacking. LOL.
MontgomeryMm67
02-05-18, 11:00
Your spelling isn't too high on the list either. None of this was about his washing up. He already stated they had a misunderstanding over text and she had a case of the ass when he arrived. Nice white knighting though.
I bolded your statement up there. I just want to point out I can imagine quite a bit. You may be lacking. LOL.Fine accuse me of white knighting whatever? She does not need my help getting and maintaining clients. If there was a misunderstanding by text before the appointment as Dillsboro Dave says maybe pick up the phone and work it out before going to appt. Because a lot can be misconstrued via text that could be easily worked out by talking. Sounds like Dillsboro Dave had a case of the ass, as you say, before going and should not be surprised it went south when he arrived. Seems to me I could suggest you are white knighting Dillsboro Dave, championing his cause without knowing the full story but you are too sage to do such a thing with your 20 years of experience.
I for one would be curious to know what she said that was so condescending, maybe we would all have more understanding.
MontgomeryMm67
02-05-18, 11:23
Your spelling isn't too high on the list either. None of this was about his washing up. He already stated they had a misunderstanding over text and she had a case of the ass when he arrived. Nice white knighting though.
I bolded your statement up there. I just want to point out I can imagine quite a bit. You may be lacking. LOL.I apologize for my misspellings, it is often hard not to have typos when typing on a mobile device, and I am sure the users of this website are all disgusted at my lack of mastery of the King's English because after all we are all here for grammatical and syntax correction from sages such as you. I am not worthy please forgive me. And you can accuse me of white knighting it makes no difference, she does not need my help getting or maintaining clients. And I am sure you will correct me but it could be suggested that you are championing Dillsboro Dave's cause yourself, you seem eager to believe him without hearing her side of the story but you are too wise, yee of 20 years experience, so it is heresy for me to suggest such a thing but its sweet you two look out for each other.
It sounds to me like Dillboro Dave had his own case of the ass, as you say, before he stepped a foot into her room. If there was a misunderstanding by text before even going why not call and speak to the provider first and clear things up, a lot can be misconstrued via text. So Dillboro Dave please enlighten all of us as to how she was so condescending that you had to leave so abruptly. Maybe that will clear it up for all of us.
Ace Johnson
02-05-18, 12:36
Does anyone remember UTR and Budha? He had a couple of girls that were superb providers, Sasha Black (admin, please don't block, that's the name she advertised under) and Cup Cake. I think these two ladies worked for awhile as independents after UTR shut down, seeing clients separately and as a duo. The reviews on various sites about them as duo's are off the charts, though I only saw them separately. I'm guessing there may have some posts as to what happened, but I haven't seen any. Also there was a provider in the NKY area named Petra, another one of my favorites, A few years ago she semi retired and started seeing only a select few of her regulars and I saw her a couple times after and then she told me she has retired completely. I think she narrowed down even further the clients she would see and I didn't make the last cut. I texted her for an appointment a couple months ago when I saw a review on anoThER site and she said it was either a fake or late review. But, she maintains her hobby phone?
Anyway, greetings from Lexington, Ace.
HuntLadys29
02-05-18, 15:07
I apologize for my misspellings, it is often hard not to have typos when typing on a mobile device, and I am sure the users of this website are all disgusted at my lack of mastery of the King's English because after all we are all here for grammatical and syntax correction from sages such as you. I am not worthy please forgive me. And you can accuse me of white knighting it makes no difference, she does not need my help getting or maintaining clients. And I am sure you will correct me but it could be suggested that you are championing Dillsboro Dave's cause yourself, you seem eager to believe him without hearing her side of the story but you are too wise, yee of 20 years experience, so it is heresy for me to suggest such a thing but its sweet you two look out for each other.
It sounds to me like Dillboro Dave had his own case of the ass, as you say, before he stepped a foot into her room. If there was a misunderstanding by text before even going why not call and speak to the provider first and clear things up, a lot can be misconstrued via text. So Dillboro Dave please enlighten all of us as to how she was so condescending that you had to leave so abruptly. Maybe that will clear it up for all of us.I don't think anyone is White Knighting Dillboro Dave, I think when this all started Dillsboro Dave was told he wasn't ripped off. The focus was put on you because of your adamant defense of this particular provider. You couldn't just let his post go for what it was you had to go Ben Matlock and start your defense. A simple I had a great time every time I saw her would have been great, but you started trying to pick apart dudes story and sounding the young ladies attributes and basically call Dillsboro Dave's report BS. If that's not White Knighting I don't know what is. Just keep your cool on here everybody gets to give their opinion of a providers visit it's not up to you or anybody else to pick it apart. HL29.
Does anyone remember UTR and Budha? He had a couple of girls that were superb providers, Sasha Black (admin, please don't block, that's the name she advertised under) and Cup Cake. I think these two ladies worked for awhile as independents after UTR shut down, seeing clients separately and as a duo. The reviews on various sites about them as duo's are off the charts, though I only saw them separately. I'm guessing there may have some posts as to what happened, but I haven't seen any. Also there was a provider in the NKY area named Petra, another one of my favorites, A few years ago she semi retired and started seeing only a select few of her regulars and I saw her a couple times after and then she told me she has retired completely. I think she narrowed down even further the clients she would see and I didn't make the last cut. I texted her for an appointment a couple months ago when I saw a review on anoThER site and she said it was either a fake or late review. But, she maintains her hobby phone?
Anyway, greetings from Lexington, Ace.I'm sure many of us remember Sasha and CupCake. Sasha was perhaps the most downright fun, enthusiastic provider I've met while CupCake was perhaps the most beautiful body from head to toe. I only saw each of them once near the end of their run with Buddha. I'd love to see either of them again if they are available.
And while we’re on the subject of memories of the Buddha group. Vanessa is another girl I’d love to see again. The nicest tits I ever came across.
MontgomeryMm67
02-05-18, 16:38
I don't think anyone is White Knighting Dillboro Dave, I think when this all started Dillsboro Dave was told he wasn't ripped off. The focus was put on you because of your adamant defense of this particular provider. You couldn't just let his post go for what it was you had to go Ben Matlock and start your defense. A simple I had a great time every time I saw her would have been great, but you started trying to pick apart dudes story and sounding the young ladies attributes and basically call Dillsboro Dave's report BS. If that's not White Knighting I don't know what is. Just keep your cool on here everybody gets to give their opinion of a providers visit it's not up to you or anybody else to pick it apart. HL29.Thanks for the unsolicited feedback its good to see Dillsboro Dave has yet another champion. How exactly was Dave ripped off, I think I missed that detail? BTW, I didn't defend anyone, I thanked Dillboro Dave for having thin skin and taking his ball (aka cash) and going home because it afforded me an opportunity I was not expecting. I just editorialized a bit when I suggested its "ridiculous" that a request to wash hands was looked at as a strange request or condescending from a provider in this line of business.
Fine accuse me of white knighting whatever? She does not need my help getting and maintaining clients. If there was a misunderstanding by text before the appointment as Dillsboro Dave says maybe pick up the phone and work it out before going to appt. Because a lot can be misconstrued via text that could be easily worked out by talking. Sounds like Dillsboro Dave had a case of the ass, as you say, before going and should not be surprised it went south when he arrived. Seems to me I could suggest you are white knighting Dillsboro Dave, championing his cause without knowing the full story but you are too sage to do such a thing with your 20 years of experience.
I for one would be curious to know what she said that was so condescending, maybe we would all have more understanding.When a monger and a provider disagree you can bet that there is her side of the story, his side of the story and the truth that lies somewhere in between.
The one thing I know is that you weren't there (unless you are her) so you have no idea of what happened. Yet you are showing up acting like her attorney asking someone to defend themselves because he gave someone a bad report.
He saw her and had a bad time and reported on it. You saw her and had a great time and reported on it. That is why we are here to share information. YMMV is the only constant in this hobby.
If you think you are helping her you aren't. White knights make me less likely to see someone because I wonder how the provider manipulated you into feeling like you have to go defend them. If you open your mouth up we can probably see the stick up your ass it is shoved up there so far.
So get off your white horse and go rent her time again for a few hours if she was that good. It would seem that would be a better use of your time than trying to defend her honor on a message board.
MontgomeryMm67
02-05-18, 19:04
When a monger and a provider disagree you can bet that there is her side of the story, his side of the story and the truth that lies somewhere in between.
The one thing I know is that you weren't there (unless you are her) so you have no idea of what happened. Yet you are showing up acting like her attorney asking someone to defend themselves because he gave someone a bad report.
He saw her and had a bad time and reported on it. You saw her and had a great time and reported on it. That is why we are here to share information. YMMV is the only constant in this hobby.
If you think you are helping her you aren't. White knights make me less likely to see someone because I wonder how the provider manipulated you into feeling like you have to go defend them. If you open your mouth up we can probably see the stick up your ass it is shoved up there so far.
So get off your white horse and go rent her time again for a few hours if she was that good. It would seem that would be a better use of your time than trying to defend her honor on a message board.Oh no all the seniors are ganging up on me. Last I checked this is a message board, a place to voice opinion. I will voice my opinion within the rules of the site if you like it or not. Blow me, Blowme.
When a monger and a provider disagree you can bet that there is her side of the story, his side of the story and the truth that lies somewhere in between.
The one thing I know is that you weren't there (unless you are her) so you have no idea of what happened. Yet you are showing up acting like her attorney asking someone to defend themselves because he gave someone a bad report.
He saw her and had a bad time and reported on it. You saw her and had a great time and reported on it. That is why we are here to share information. YMMV is the only constant in this hobby.
If you think you are helping her you aren't. White knights make me less likely to see someone because I wonder how the provider manipulated you into feeling like you have to go defend them. If you open your mouth up we can probably see the stick up your ass it is shoved up there so far.
So get off your white horse and go rent her time again for a few hours if she was that good. It would seem that would be a better use of your time than trying to defend her honor on a message board.This is as close as I can make it work. b d.
Fine accuse me of white knighting whatever? She does not need my help getting and maintaining clients. If there was a misunderstanding by text before the appointment as Dillsboro Dave says maybe pick up the phone and work it out before going to appt. Because a lot can be misconstrued via text that could be easily worked out by talking. Sounds like Dillsboro Dave had a case of the ass, as you say, before going and should not be surprised it went south when he arrived. Seems to me I could suggest you are white knighting Dillsboro Dave, championing his cause without knowing the full story but you are too sage to do such a thing with your 20 years of experience.
I for one would be curious to know what she said that was so condescending, maybe we would all have more understanding.You weren't there so you have no right or standing to contradict or question how this session went. If he didn't like how it went and he reported it that way then that's how it was. To him. I've see providers based on great reviews from other mongers and after the session wondered what in the hell they were talking about. Yes you are white knighting and obviously you feel like you have to defend her honor or something. Nobody gives a shit what you think about his session with her or whether you got, apparently what you think was a great BBBJ and a session. You see the providers you want. You report them on how you saw it and how you liked it and leave it there. Let someone else see who they want and report it as they saw it. If you both see the same provider and have different opinions as to how it went, well that's how it goes. Its no different than how we all here rate the appearance of these providers. I've seen a member or members here say a provider is nice looking with a great body, etc, and I think the provider is damn ugly. Am I wrong, are they right? Bottom line. If you weren't there, you've got nothing to say about it.
I don't think anyone is White Knighting Dillboro Dave, I think when this all started Dillsboro Dave was told he wasn't ripped off. The focus was put on you because of your adamant defense of this particular provider. You couldn't just let his post go for what it was you had to go Ben Matlock and start your defense. A simple I had a great time every time I saw her would have been great, but you started trying to pick apart dudes story and sounding the young ladies attributes and basically call Dillsboro Dave's report BS. If that's not White Knighting I don't know what is. Just keep your cool on here everybody gets to give their opinion of a providers visit it's not up to you or anybody else to pick it apart. HL29.
Thanks for the unsolicited feedback its good to see Dillsboro Dave has yet another champion. How exactly was Dave ripped off, I think I missed that detail? BTW, I didn't defend anyone, I thanked Dillboro Dave for having thin skin and taking his ball (aka cash) and going home because it afforded me an opportunity I was not expecting. I just editorialized a bit when I suggested its "ridiculous" that a request to wash hands was looked at as a strange request or condescending from a provider in this line of business.Whew. Just ate up with the dumbfucks, aren't you? It's you that started with the unsolicited feedback. HL29 gave you some good advice but nope, you just can't stop because you're forwarding your "dream girl" links to all your little retorts I'm sure. That is if you aren't actually the hooker in question. Personally, she can keep her skanky ass in Philly AFAIC. Then you can make the trip on your trusty white steed.
Oh. He never said he was ripped off. He said she tried to keep the cash. You really need to read the full paragraphs before girding in your knightly duds do go do battle for your unpleasant little maiden.
MontgomeryMm67
02-06-18, 09:32
Whew. Just ate up with the dumbfucks, aren't you? It's you that started with the unsolicited feedback. HL29 gave you some good advice but nope, you just can't stop because you're forwarding your "dream girl" links to all your little retorts I'm sure. That is if you aren't actually the hooker in question. Personally, she can keep her skanky ass in Philly AFAIC. Then you can make the trip on your trusty white steed.
Oh. He never said he was ripped off. He said she tried to keep the cash. You really need to read the full paragraphs before girding in your knightly duds do go do battle for your unpleasant little maiden.Roger Over. Whats your Vector, Victor.
I am entitled to my opinion as are you, if you don't like it you can ignore me.
TTFN.
Does anyone remember UTR and Budha? He had a couple of girls that were superb providers, Sasha Black (admin, please don't block, that's the name she advertised under) and Cup Cake. I think these two ladies worked for awhile as independents after UTR shut down, seeing clients separately and as a duo. The reviews on various sites about them as duo's are off the charts, though I only saw them separately. I'm guessing there may have some posts as to what happened, but I haven't seen any. Also there was a provider in the NKY area named Petra, another one of my favorites, A few years ago she semi retired and started seeing only a select few of her regulars and I saw her a couple times after and then she told me she has retired completely. I think she narrowed down even further the clients she would see and I didn't make the last cut. I texted her for an appointment a couple months ago when I saw a review on anoThER site and she said it was either a fake or late review. But, she maintains her hobby phone?
Anyway, greetings from Lexington, Ace.I was one of the lucky ones to have experienced Sasha, Cupcake, and a Sasha Cupcake Duo. I also got to experience the only Sasha. Airella duo known to have happened.
Airella was a very short lived Buddah girl, and up to that session, had never been with a girl. Watching Sasha educate her was a pleasure to behold. Joining in after watching them go at it for a bit was truly remarkable. The G-on-G foreplay really got their engines going so when I joined, they were eager for the D.
I believe Airella's pic is still in the locked Providers Ads thread. Cute as a button.
I was one of the lucky ones to have experienced Sasha, Cupcake, and a Sasha Cupcake Duo. I also got to experience the only Sasha. Airella duo known to have happened.
Airella was a very short lived Buddah girl, and up to that session, had never been with a girl. Watching Sasha educate her was a pleasure to behold. Joining in after watching them go at it for a bit was truly remarkable. The G-on-G foreplay really got their engines going so when I joined, they were eager for the D.
I believe Airella's pic is still in the locked Providers Ads thread. Cute as a button.That was enough to send me off on a search. She sure is still there.
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Airella's pic from 2014
I had the pleasure to see Sasha and Cucake many times individually and together. Also saw Ariel. Special women who brought such passion, desire, fun, intelligence and joy to our shared bed. I do miss them.
KC.
That was enough to send me off on a search. She sure is still there.
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Airella's pic from 2014There was a moment in the session just before I joined them that Airella was straddling one of Sasha's legs. Airella was sliding herself up and down on Sasha's thigh using hip grinding motions. You could tell she was trying to get as much rubbing on her clothes as she could. She was making these soft whimpering sounds as she ground in harder and harder.
It was then that I decided to join. I stood next to Airella, my cock by her face. She turned and took me all in with one gulp. I didn't have to move as she face fuvjed herself while simultaneously reaching between her legs and rubbed herself. Sasha too was playing with herself and reached up to play with Airella's breasts.
That was the START if a beautiful session.
That was enough to send me off on a search. She sure is still there.
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Airella's pic from 2014Your link also brought up an old Sexy Sass ad. I sure do miss her as well. Anyone know what happened to her? I know she was with uncle for a bit.
I had the pleasure to see Sasha and Cucake many times individually and together. Also saw Ariel. Special women who brought such passion, desire, fun, intelligence and joy to our shared bed. I do miss them.
KC.I did several duos with these two and it has left me wary of repeating the experience with others: too exhausting. After Cupcake disappeared, I was a regular with Sasha and we even became FB friends. She is living the dream with a good job, a husband and a new child since she left. She was never into the drug scene and it is good to see one of our ladies move on so successfully. Don't ask me for contact information; I will not share.
BAM.
I did several duos with these two and it has left me wary of repeating the experience with others: too exhausting. After Cupcake disappeared, I was a regular with Sasha and we even became FB friends. She is living the dream with a good job, a husband and a new child since she left. She was never into the drug scene and it is good to see one of our ladies move on so successfully. Don't ask me for contact information; I will not share.
BAM.That's great news for Sasha. Anyone know what happened to Cupcake? Not interested in looking her up, just curious about the high-level info.
Your link also brought up an old Sexy Sass ad. I sure do miss her as well. Anyone know what happened to her? I know she was with uncle for a bit.To my knowledge still with the uncle and will be for a while.
Dillsborodave
02-07-18, 02:06
That's great news for Sasha. Anyone know what happened to Cupcake? Not interested in looking her up, just curious about the high-level info.I had her number till my phone blew up about a year ago. Lost all my underground contacts. Last I heard she was still in love living in northern ohio.
Addiction69
02-07-18, 11:58
To my knowledge still with the uncle and will be for a while.Regarding Sexy Sass.
I am encouraged to see that she may be with her Uncle. I was under the impression for some reason that she had passed away.
BigGuy3627
02-07-18, 13:50
Regarding Sexy Sass.
I am encouraged to see that she may be with her Uncle. I was under the impression for some reason that she had passed away.I miss her anyone know how long is she going to be visiting her uncle LEO?
Anyone have any reviews of the "Sugar babies" on AM?
HuntLadys29
02-07-18, 18:01
I miss her anyone know how long is she going to be visiting her uncle LEO?How do you know she will get back into this life style when she gets out? That's the one thing about this board that gets me give the girl a chance to do her time before you start putting her back in this life style. If a girl hasn't posted in years guys will still want her contact info or wonder if they can still see her to me it's not cool. Don't get me wrong I love this shit that's why I do it but if a girl is out the business whether it's of her free will or not let her be out the business. HL29.
BigGuy3627
02-07-18, 18:49
How do you know she will get back into this life style when she gets out? That's the one thing about this board that gets me give the girl a chance to do her time before you start putting her back in this life style. If a girl hasn't posted in years guys will still want her contact info or wonder if they can still see her to me it's not cool. Don't get me wrong I love this shit that's why I do it but if a girl is out the business whether it's of her free will or not let her be out the business. HL29.She was a nice girl and thought if she was going to be visiting a long time I might throw her some Commissary money to help her out.
Fellow Mongers,
I don't rant often. Actually very rare. But I find it interesting that providers have no problem changing numbers for safety and being discreet. Etc. So why is it an issue when us Mongers do the same? I can't tell how much scrutiny one gets for being extra discreet and changing numbers etc. I prefer to use one number of a limited amount of time and then change it up. It keeps the SO etc off the trail and keeps me discreet. So ladies, please understand. You do it and so can we. Often times it's for the same reason as you. We all want to remain discreet and safe. Enjoy the game!
Myway! .Great sense of reasoning, best way of staying out of trouble. Just part of the business.
CrissyLynn2015
02-12-18, 01:48
Great sense of reasoning, best way of staying out of trouble. Just part of the business.Comin from a pretty well known, creditable provider, I DEFINTELY agree with saftey and privacy are some the most important part of our hobby. I guess on our side, I could see how changing numbers on your end would be irritating only because most females will save your number but should only save you under something they will remember. Well. Unless you see 10-20 men daily. Which. Umm. Idk then lmao BUT with me. All I have to do is ask for prior number. Make sure your who you are and boom! Good to go lmao! Anyways.
Boring nighttime thoughts of crissylynn night everone, see some yaw tomorrow hopefully LOL.
Simp4ebony
02-12-18, 21:09
I feel like I may have written about this before, buy my experience with Thalia this morning really hit home my quandary, so I'm wondering how other mongers deal with this (or if I am just crazy, LOL).
Often, when I gear up to see a provider, I don't jerk off for a few days. The pressure mounts, and when I finish, it is a very satisfying explosion, but I will have hardly any stamina. It's like I stick it in just for a bit, and I can't hold on.
Last night, when making arrangements with Thalia, I totally blueballed myself, so I jerked off last night, then saw her first thing this morning. I definitely lasted longer, which is great, because the journey is a lot of fun, but the finishing act was less forceful and voluminous.
Am I alone here? I can't decide which is better: to last longer but not come as hard, or to come harder but not last as long. It's a quandary! What do you guys think? Which way to go?!
Looks like we see her about the same amount, and she treats me well too. I am in love with her, I've been seeing her almost every week since mid September. Hopefully I win her over and I hope I'm her favorite client. May the best man win.
Best man win?
Hell, I would be happy just to get a reply to one of the texts I've sent over the past 6 months in am attempt to see her.
First time I tried I got a quick reply but her schedule didnt allow, after that, nothing but crickets!Aaaand I'm just going to upchuck a little.
Dudes, she fucks for money. Just saying if you want to test out that "love" thing stop paying.
Got 2 straight calls and turns out they are from a local police department, then 2 minutes later get a call from my UTR who has never called me. I'm assuming she's been picked up for something. Not sure if she's calling me for bail or if the actual Uncle is calling. I didn't answer any of the calls so I'm not sure what I should do. Maybe give it a free days and wait to hear from her? Do I need to ditch my number for a new one? Sorry, just a little freaked out at the moment.
Aaaand I'm just going to upchuck a little.
Dudes, she fucks for money. Just saying if you want to test out that "love" thing stop paying.That aint no lie. She is very high volume. I used to see her a while back. She ghosted me the last time then blew my phone up with texts. I really thought that was sad reading the review from the both of them. I agree. Don't pay or tell her you won't pay then they'll see where that love is.
I feel like I may have written about this before, buy my experience with Thalia this morning really hit home my quandary, so I'm wondering how other mongers deal with this (or if I am just crazy, LOL).
Often, when I gear up to see a provider, I don't jerk off for a few days. The pressure mounts, and when I finish, it is a very satisfying explosion, but I will have hardly any stamina. It's like I stick it in just for a bit, and I can't hold on.
Last night, when making arrangements with Thalia, I totally blueballed myself, so I jerked off last night, then saw her first thing this morning. I definitely lasted longer, which is great, because the journey is a lot of fun, but the finishing act was less forceful and voluminous.
Am I alone here? I can't decide which is better: to last longer but not come as hard, or to come harder but not last as long. It's a quandary! What do you guys think? Which way to go?!I hold off for a couple for that very satisfying end. Work so well the last time I dreamt I went to an AMP, on the handshake I blasted her in the face. We both laughed for a good 5 minutes.
I feel like I may have written about this before, buy my experience with Thalia this morning really hit home my quandary, so I'm wondering how other mongers deal with this (or if I am just crazy, LOL).
Often, when I gear up to see a provider, I don't jerk off for a few days. The pressure mounts, and when I finish, it is a very satisfying explosion, but I will have hardly any stamina. It's like I stick it in just for a bit, and I can't hold on.
Last night, when making arrangements with Thalia, I totally blueballed myself, so I jerked off last night, then saw her first thing this morning. I definitely lasted longer, which is great, because the journey is a lot of fun, but the finishing act was less forceful and voluminous.
Am I alone here? I can't decide which is better: to last longer but not come as hard, or to come harder but not last as long. It's a quandary! What do you guys think? Which way to go?!Usually if I know I am going for a q. V. Or a b&g I hold out. If I plan on a much longer more satisfying dream I break one off maybe 2. Had a week without anything once filled little Bree so full she looked like the kid from Big Daddy trying to get to the bathroom to spit it all out. On a side not Bree is a cutie but a total rush job and I felt like she was ripping my little head to shreds. I won't repeat with her again.
FMichaels4533
02-13-18, 08:54
Got 2 straight calls and turns out they are from a local police department, then 2 minutes later get a call from my UTR who has never called me. I'm assuming she's been picked up for something. Not sure if she's calling me for bail or if the actual Uncle is calling. I didn't answer any of the calls so I'm not sure what I should do. Maybe give it a free days and wait to hear from her? Do I need to ditch my number for a new one? Sorry, just a little freaked out at the moment.Dump the burner. If your spidy senses are that lit up, why take a chance. Good call on not answering the calls. Things that are "out of the ordinary" are usually not good. Be safe.
Got 2 straight calls and turns out they are from a local police department, then 2 minutes later get a call from my UTR who has never called me. I'm assuming she's been picked up for something. Not sure if she's calling me for bail or if the actual Uncle is calling. I didn't answer any of the calls so I'm not sure what I should do. Maybe give it a free days and wait to hear from her? Do I need to ditch my number for a new one? Sorry, just a little freaked out at the moment.
Dump the burner. If your spidy senses are that lit up, why take a chance. Good call on not answering the calls. Things that are "out of the ordinary" are usually not good. Be safe.I've gotten burner calls from what appeared to be LE once. Didn't answer, so I just assumed some girl I had chatted with got pinched. Dumped the burner and forgot about it.
Here is what I think is the best burner app option. They advertise that they don't even know who you are and have no info to provide LE.
Home. Sudo.
https://sudoapp.com/
CrissyLynn2015
02-13-18, 11:07
Aaaand I'm just going to upchuck a little.
Dudes, she fucks for money. Just saying if you want to test out that "love" thing stop paying.I couldn't help but laugh at what he said.
Aries babe. Don't fall in love with none of us right now. As roger said. Ask for a freebie and see what she says. I have a great connection with most all my friends but WE know what this is. We know why we do this. Love is so far out of the question. I'm not trying to kill your dreams or hurt you by any means, I promise. I just want you to be aware of the situation and don't get too over your head. Your lucky she's not taking advantage of the situation. Most femalea that have a male fall. Have them do all types favors and etc. I have to say I have met an awesome friend that I I met thru here and we do dinner aometimes ans all that stuff but he knows the first mention of love. Ill go running LOL. I could be totally wrong but I couldn't help but give my input on this. Be safe guys!
Ace Johnson
02-13-18, 11:58
Aaaand I'm just going to upchuck a little.
Dudes, she fucks for money. Just saying if you want to test out that "love" thing stop paying.HAHAHAHA. Took me a while to get up off the floor I was laughing so hard! Roger rules! Talk about hitting the nail on the head. Only thing you forgot to say is game, set, match and checkmate!
Simp4ebony
02-13-18, 22:00
I hold off for a couple for that very satisfying end. Work so well the last time I dreamt I went to an AMP, on the handshake I blasted her in the face. We both laughed for a good 5 minutes.Accidentally power-squirting on an Asian girl's face in an AMP would be amazing!
MontyCliff
02-13-18, 22:18
Aaaand I'm just going to upchuck a little.
Dudes, she fucks for money. Just saying if you want to test out that "love" thing stop paying.Wish this was my line, but I read it on here somewhere: "money goes here, dick goes here, door is there".
Puritanical
02-15-18, 16:19
Wish this was my line, but I read it on here somewhere: "money goes here, dick goes here, door is there".Lacey is great, I recommend everyone see her. But she's just good at what she does, she's like the ultimate hooters waitress. She knows that the experience is mental as well as physical, and does a great job catering to both. I know her flight will be icarian at best though, so I've removed her from my roster after several visits. I'll probably see her again but there's always fun to be had.
If there's one provider who has got me utterly convinced she loves the craft, it's sincycinnamon. She maintains boundaries well so I don't think she'll have "suitors" like Lacey does, but I am either fooled or certain that if you aren't a total creep, she will genuinely enjoy your session. And no, I don't love her. I just think she's a master's degree in a profession of high school diplomas.
Lacey is great, I recommend everyone see her. But she's just good at what she does, she's like the ultimate hooters waitress. She knows that the experience is mental as well as physical, and does a great job catering to both. I know her flight will be icarian at best though, so I've removed her from my roster after several visits. I'll probably see her again but there's always fun to be had.
If there's one provider who has got me utterly convinced she loves the craft, it's sincycinnamon. She maintains boundaries well so I don't think she'll have "suitors" like Lacey does, but I am either fooled or certain that if you aren't a total creep, she will genuinely enjoy your session. And no, I don't love her. I just think she's a master's degree in a profession of high school diplomas.Been two both recently, because I love the food LOL, and must say the one on rt4 has way better looking servers! IMO anyways.
Lacey is great, I recommend everyone see her. But she's just good at what she does, she's like the ultimate hooters waitress. She knows that the experience is mental as well as physical, and does a great job catering to both. I know her flight will be icarian at best though, so I've removed her from my roster after several visits. I'll probably see her again but there's always fun to be had.
If there's one provider who has got me utterly convinced she loves the craft, it's sincycinnamon. She maintains boundaries well so I don't think she'll have "suitors" like Lacey does, but I am either fooled or certain that if you aren't a total creep, she will genuinely enjoy your session. And no, I don't love her. I just think she's a master's degree in a profession of high school diplomas.I agree sincy is amazing was a little young for my taste but more than experienced to make up for it. When I seen her she mentioned something about if only her and lady j could get together for a mother / daughter thing. I think I would have to sell some stock and possible drain the account to partake in that.
So I made an appointment with Shevelle the other day based on reviews here, 2. 5 hours before meeting time. I updated her that I may be a few minutes late, up to 15. Several texts want unanswered. At original meeting time I get a text giving me address if notel and "I'm at Wal-Mart tho. " WTF. Why aren't we at our notel awaiting arrival of client? I waited 30 minutes before I left. Next day she says they were detained by security because sister's friend decided to steal stuff that Shevelle had to fork out $130 for. How much of this is true, who knows.
LADIES, if you have an appointment with someone don't fucking go somewhere within 30 minutes of said appointment! We don't want you rushing back, waiting for you to freshen up, change out of your sweats, put makeup on, ad nauseum. You children need to show a little respect to the man that wants to come and see you and give you some of our hard earned cash!
Do yourselves a favor. Go buy a Playboy magazine and take note of how the models dress and use makeup. Be like them. That's the fantasy we're trying to buy here. Rant over.
Golfguy, playing through.
Kenwood Jack
02-17-18, 18:12
Candice
If you do not know who I'm talking about -.
Candice - weighs to much. Great smile. Wonderful service. Here over 5 years.
Has not advertised in a long-long time.
That Candice . I will not write a review. I have written probably more reviews about Candice than any other provider over the past 6 years. Look any up if you want to know what you missed.
She still is providing, and only if you know her, she would love to hear from you.
Candice 513-761-4479 .
Candice
If you do not know who I'm talking about -.
Candice - weighs to much. Great smile. Wonderful service. Here over 5 years.
Has not advertised in a long-long time.
That Candice . I will not write a review. I have written probably more reviews about Candice than any other provider over the past 6 years. Look any up if you want to know what you missed.
She still is providing, and only if you know her, she would love to hear from you.
Candice 513-761-4479 .Ummmm, so this is an endorsement?
So I made an appointment with Shevelle the other day based on reviews here, 2. 5 hours before meeting time. I updated her that I may be a few minutes late, up to 15. Several texts want unanswered. At original meeting time I get a text giving me address if notel and "I'm at Wal-Mart tho. " WTF. Why aren't we at our notel awaiting arrival of client? I waited 30 minutes before I left. Next day she says they were detained by security because sister's friend decided to steal stuff that Shevelle had to fork out $130 for. How much of this is true, who knows.
LADIES, if you have an appointment with someone don't fucking go somewhere within 30 minutes of said appointment! We don't want you rushing back, waiting for you to freshen up, change out of your sweats, put makeup on, ad nauseum. You children need to show a little respect to the man that wants to come and see you and give you some of our hard earned cash!
Do yourselves a favor. Go buy a Playboy magazine and take note of how the models dress and use makeup. Be like them. That's the fantasy we're trying to buy here. Rant over.
Golfguy, playing through.I hate to say that Playboy is no more. The magazine that taught us how to admire the finer things in life like music, travel, automobiles, and beautiful women. They are no longer publishing and the Bunnies are no more. The girls no longer have Bunnies to look up to for inspiration. I fear that what you want is just a fantasy.
I think that I need a massage now.
FMichaels4533
02-18-18, 00:40
OK, this is not really a rant, just some wallowing in a large pool of self pity after a frustrating day. Some days you just can't win. I started off the high expectations. I had several hours free and cash in my pocket that I really wanted to give to someone. I called Kellie (Elliegirl), no answer. I then tried to contact Jackie. (I've really been wanting to see her) Alas, no response to my text. As my three hours was quickly going away, I decided to try to see someone close by. I texted Ooolola and viola, she said she was available. I thought things were looking up. No. When I texted for her incall location I got crickets. Ugh. I then remembered that Tay is sometimes south of the river. I shot her a text to see if she was nearby. I waited about 15 minutes. No response. I gave up at that point and hit the gym. I figured I needed further punishment and self abuse. To cap off the day, when I got back to my car, I had a text from Tay. She had been available and I blew it. As they say, if at first you don't succeed, just say fuck it and quit. (at least I think that's what they say). Anyway, tomorrow is another day. I still have my cash and I will climb back on that horse and try again. (I think they say that too) Anyway, stay safe and have fun. Maybe I will again some day.
HuntLadys29
02-18-18, 00:49
Candice
If you do not know who I'm talking about -.
Candice - weighs to much. Great smile. Wonderful service. Here over 5 years.
Has not advertised in a long-long time.
That Candice . I will not write a review. I have written probably more reviews about Candice than any other provider over the past 6 years. Look any up if you want to know what you missed.
She still is providing, and only if you know her, she would love to hear from you.
Candice 513-761-4479 .The last time I saw her she had moved from Reading and was on the West Side with another woman I think they were a little more than friends. Candice wasn't fresh at all the famous BBBJ wasn't good and I didn't get off on cfs. I thought she had retired after her incident a couple years ago I guess not. Personally I think she is way past her prime and after my last visit I don't plan on ever seeing her again. HL29.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-18-18, 01:04
Since this is in The Octagon" I would assume I can say what I want without being slammed as a White Knight.
I won't defend Oolala, she said she was available, but didn't confirm. But the other ladies might have been "busy. " If you wete the one they were "busy" with, you would have been upset if they texted during your appointment.
You had a three hour window, but I also assume you want them freshly showered and prepared for your visit, that can take more an hour to do.
Complain about Oolala all you want, but maybe you should plan further in advance.
I love to play golf, but if a buddy calls me and wants me to play with him with just two hours notice, I probably won't be available.
OK, this is not really a rant, just some wallowing in a large pool of self pity after a frustrating day. Some days you just can't win. I started off the high expectations. I had several hours free and cash in my pocket that I really wanted to give to someone. I called Kellie (Elliegirl), no answer. I then tried to contact Jackie. (I've really been wanting to see her) Alas, no response to my text. As my three hours was quickly going away, I decided to try to see someone close by. I texted Ooolola and viola, she said she was available. I thought things were looking up. No. When I texted for her incall location I got crickets. Ugh. I then remembered that Tay is sometimes south of the river. I shot her a text to see if she was nearby. I waited about 15 minutes. No response. I gave up at that point and hit the gym. I figured I needed further punishment and self abuse. To cap off the day, when I got back to my car, I had a text from Tay. She had been available and I blew it. As they say, if at first you don't succeed, just say fuck it and quit. (at least I think that's what they say). Anyway, tomorrow is another day. I still have my cash and I will climb back on that horse and try again. (I think they say that too) Anyway, stay safe and have fun. Maybe I will again some day.
As I have gained experience in the hobby, I find more and more I prefer providers who are organized, professional, and can actually schedule an appointment a few days in advance (Sara TT, Busty Red, Chloe Starr, etc.). For an extra $. 5 or so, they are reliable, clean, safe, and consistent. The "three free hours" just doesn't work for me at all. To each their own.
The good dr.
A lot of providers bring it on themselves by posting in their ads "don't call or text unless you are ready". If I'm ready to go that means I'll see you in an hour or less. If that doesn't work then maybe they need to change their ad by saying give me a two or three hour call or text prior to visiting.
Since this is in The Octagon" I would assume I can say what I want without being slammed as a White Knight.
I won't defend Oolala, she said she was available, but didn't confirm. But the other ladies might have been "busy. " If you wete the one they were "busy" with, you would have been upset if they texted during your appointment.
You had a three hour window, but I also assume you want them freshly showered and prepared for your visit, that can take more an hour to do.
Complain about Oolala all you want, but maybe you should plan further in advance.
I love to play golf, but if a buddy calls me and wants me to play with him with just two hours notice, I probably won't be available.
https://www.gofundme.com/rip-brandy-grevas-need-y039all-help
FMichaels4533
02-18-18, 11:26
Since this is in The Octagon" I would assume I can say what I want without being slammed as a White Knight.
I won't defend Oolala, she said she was available, but didn't confirm. But the other ladies might have been "busy. " If you wete the one they were "busy" with, you would have been upset if they texted during your appointment.
You had a three hour window, but I also assume you want them freshly showered and prepared for your visit, that can take more an hour to do.
Complain about Oolala all you want, but maybe you should plan further in advance.
I love to play golf, but if a buddy calls me and wants me to play with him with just two hours notice, I probably won't be available.Wow, the point was missed here. I was not trying to slam the girls who were not available. I was beating myself up for trying to do a set up on short notice. Note the self loathing. I apologize for my apparently poor attempt at humor. I fully realize that the girls have lives too and short notice can be tough. I usually have decent luck, but due to my schedule short notice is the best I can do. I will say one thing. If a provider is not available just say so. Don't say you are and then go silent. It wastes time for the client. Anyway, stay safe.
I know that different people include or not include activities when thinking about an experience labeled GFE. But if you think about the title it means what is the experience you have with a woman who is your girlfriend and not one paid to play. A true girlfriend is happy to see you, happy to kiss you passionately, happy to give you a BBBJ and try many positions in cfs. So posters please stop describing Providers as GFE if they don't provide all of these. You can still describe the time as wonderful, but if lacking all these activities then it is not a GFE. I realize it is always YMMV, but I saw someone who was described as GFE and she didn't DFK (barely light kisser) and only provided CBJ. To say the least, I was very disappointed. Thanks for not letting your emotions get the better of you in future posts.
KC.
ThatGuy011
02-18-18, 16:16
Well this will be my rant about people in the AMP board because it still persists.
I made a report about 2 visits to an AMP, that happen to be the kind of visits AMP goers want. Post, then I don't get on the board for a couple days and when I do, I see assholes making 'callouts' about how fake it is because no names were given and I hadn't been logged on for 2 days. *IF ITS REAL THEN I CHALLENGE YOU TO NAME IT! Where's THE ANSWER!" ect, ect* I mean, I figured out where to try by reading recent posts, and even said that's how I came up with a place to go. Yet, there were too lazy to do so, but I'm the bad guy.
You aren't doing anything for me, yet demanding that I give you info ASAP. Couldn't wait 2 days? I PM'd people the info who asked no problem, and even then a guy who was replied to still posted a call-out AFTER he'd been replied to. And NO I wasn't naming the place and info on the board, very small town that would have nothing better to do if they found out via the boards. Then a good thing goes away, and we have to wade through DIY AMPs before striking gold.
Nevermind the fact I don't post regularly, and hadn't for years at a time; I also actually have a damn woman, and a 3 year old, and between real life, I can't log on to this site, with these fucking ads at the top, at my leisure. These old ugly bastards that couldn't wait; fuck them. I'm young, look normal, I have a woman that will do any of the stuff we pay for, for free, no hesitation. Baby weight gain brought me back recently, but I can ask my fiancee for whatever whenever. So I guess it's not as big of a deal for me. I'm just preferring tight bodies and it's been a while since hers has been. I'll be around until I get this out of my system, but if you are an impatient ingrate, go screw yourself. Or should I say DIY.
Note how I didn't redact your rant on the appropriate thread.
A2
https://www.gofundme.com/rip-brandy-grevas-need-y039all-helpWas she the one who was in Loveland and advertised on BP all the time?
FMichaels4533
02-18-18, 17:42
I know that different people include or not include activities when thinking about an experience labeled GFE. But if you think about the title it means what is the experience you have with a woman who is your girlfriend and not one paid to play. A true girlfriend is happy to see you, happy to kiss you passionately, happy to give you a BBBJ and try many positions in cfs. So posters please stop describing Providers as GFE if they don't provide all of these. You can still describe the time as wonderful, but if lacking all these activities then it is not a GFE. I realize it is always YMMV, but I saw someone who was described as GFE and she didn't DFK (barely light kisser) and only provided CBJ. To say the least, I was very disappointed. Thanks for not letting your emotions get the better of you in future posts.
KC.Totally agree.
Cincyfunguy
02-18-18, 19:09
I know that different people include or not include activities when thinking about an experience labeled GFE. But if you think about the title it means what is the experience you have with a woman who is your girlfriend and not one paid to play. A true girlfriend is happy to see you, happy to kiss you passionately, happy to give you a BBBJ and try many positions in cfs. So posters please stop describing Providers as GFE if they don't provide all of these. You can still describe the time as wonderful, but if lacking all these activities then it is not a GFE. I realize it is always YMMV, but I saw someone who was described as GFE and she didn't DFK (barely light kisser) and only provided CBJ. To say the least, I was very disappointed. Thanks for not letting your emotions get the better of you in future posts.
KC.Totally agree. The use of the term GFE has become overused and too loose to count on. Never had a girlfriend that wasn't glad to see me, that didn't enjoy passionate DFK, that required a cover for a BJ or that didn't make me feel as if there was some sort of connection.
CFG.
Was she the one who was in Loveland and advertised on BP all the time?Loveland, Norwood, Blue Ash etc.
Was one of the first I ever saw starting in the hobby. That was 3. 5 years ago.
Was she the one who was in Loveland and advertised on BP all the time?How did she die?
A true girlfriend is happy to see you, happy to kiss you passionately, happy to give you a BBBJ and try many positions in cfs.I agree. Personally, I'd also add: she seems genuinely interested in what you have to say. A few that perfectly fit the definition of GFE in my opinion are ChloeStarr, Kristaleighxxx, Jackixx. That's why I've had several repeat visits with them. I have only recently discovered CristenCremes who, in my one visit, also seems to qualify.
LuvnLivn.
How did she die?This article from the Hamilton corener says probable OD.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cincinnati.com/amp/1060884001
Ace Johnson
02-21-18, 13:25
Does anyone remember UTR and Budha? He had a couple of girls that were superb providers, Sasha Black (admin, please don't block, that's the name she advertised under) and Cup Cake. I think these two ladies worked for awhile as independents after UTR shut down, seeing clients separately and as a duo. The reviews on various sites about them as duo's are off the charts, though I only saw them separately. I'm guessing there may have some posts as to what happened, but I haven't seen any. Also there was a provider in the NKY area named Petra, another one of my favorites, A few years ago she semi retired and started seeing only a select few of her regulars and I saw her a couple times after and then she told me she has retired completely. I think she narrowed down even further the clients she would see and I didn't make the last cut. I texted her for an appointment a couple months ago when I saw a review on anoThER site and she said it was either a fake or late review. But, she maintains her hobby phone?
Anyway, greetings from Lexington, Ace.Thanks to all who replied about UTR and Sasha and CC, I'm disappointed they're no longer available but glad they're doing well. Any word on Petra? Anybody remember her? Thanks, Ace.
CrissyLynn2015
02-21-18, 13:26
https://www.gofundme.com/rip-brandy-grevas-need-y039all-helpThis is so sad:(she seemed as thought she was one of the good ones! Idk her personally but I think we have all seen her pics between here and BP. . . RiP little Angel😕128533; It sad how often this happens#.
Thanks to all who replied about UTR and Sasha and CC, I'm disappointed they're no longer available but glad they're doing well. Any word on Petra? Anybody remember her? Thanks, Ace.She always gave non stop sexual pleasures. And pleasant to be with.
Have been trying to find a lady for pleasure of the open kind. Age preferably over 25 to 30. Must love what she does and gets into it. No drgs, and love and I do mean love sking and fking and receiving the same. I have reached out to I'm addictive, Candy Bottoms, Cinnamon, a 38 year old lady in Dayton who looks very sweet and lovable, Nicole, Little Latina and the operative word is ZILCH, NADA, silence. How do ladies expect to take care of their needs if they do not bother to return responses. I would love to have a dollar for every time I have said THIS IS S BUSINESS. A simple response is all that is required yet everyday on here and the Dayton boards I read these FKING tales of whoa about how a lady needs money for rent, her PIMP takes her money and spends it at the bars, She can't feed her kids or pay her rent. Any many of us who contact ladies can't even get a FKING response from a lady we would like to see. Makes no sense. Sorry for the words but this CH*T gets old quickly but they expect help. Any ladies interested or do we need to go to an alternative area for our pleasures? It is about SEX in whatever form we need it and how we need it. It is also not when the ladies WTFU and decide they are ready although we can try to work with them. Just saying, come on ladies you know what and why we are on here for. So what's the verdict. Have a good day all putting my pulpit away and moving on down the line. S*x is S*x so let's GET IT ON Isn't that why we are on here. What we are told by our fearless leader The Doctor would love to be in again but right now batting zero.
HuntLadys29
02-22-18, 16:59
Have been trying to find a lady for pleasure of the open kind. Age preferably over 25 to 30. Must love what she does and gets into it. No drgs, and love and I do mean love sking and fking and receiving the same. I have reached out to I'm addictive, Candy Bottoms, Cinnamon, a 38 year old lady in Dayton who looks very sweet and lovable, Nicole, Little Latina and the operative word is ZILCH, NADA, silence. How do ladies expect to take care of their needs if they do not bother to return responses. I would love to have a dollar for every time I have said THIS IS S BUSINESS. A simple response is all that is required yet everyday on here and the Dayton boards I read these FKING tales of whoa about how a lady needs money for rent, her PIMP takes her money and spends it at the bars, She can't feed her kids or pay her rent. Any many of us who contact ladies can't even get a FKING response from a lady we would like to see. Makes no sense. Sorry for the words but this CH*T gets old quickly but they expect help. Any ladies interested or do we need to go to an alternative area for our pleasures? It is about SEX in whatever form we need it and how we need it. It is also not when the ladies WTFU and decide they are ready although we can try to work with them. Just saying, come on ladies you know what and why we are on here for. So what's the verdict. Have a good day all putting my pulpit away and moving on down the line. S*x is S*x so let's GET IT ON Isn't that why we are on here. What we are told by our fearless leader The Doctor would love to be in again but right now batting zero.When I'm ready to let the Tin Soldier play I reach out to 3-4 different ladies whoever responds first gets to let my Tin Soldier hide in her bunker. I don't put all my eggs in one basket, even if I have something set up,(I like early appointments) if when I text if I don't here back in 20-30 minutes I'll start reaching out to other ladies. This works well for me I also have a 3 girl rotation that if someone doesn't show or respond I know one of these girls will as soon as they see my number. I've wasted viagra before it pisses me off enough to not let it happen again. HL29.
There a huge difffence in being cautious and flat out paranoid. I can appreciate her wanting to protect her and her clients, but her process makes people like me want to just move on and say fuck it.
I've been out of the hobby for a little bit. A few weeks ago I contacted her and she wanted references. The only ones that's I've seen that are still in the game is EE and he won't give references for anyone (to me that's another issues).
I seen a beautiful amazing provider today and Sincy contacted her for a reference and she gladly gave one. I'm not one to screw everyone all over the board, so I'll pick two or three in case someone is busy. Sincy contacted me and told me the provider gave a reference for me. Great. When do we start? So she asks for another one. A few weeks ago it was get a good reference from one of these providers, so I did. Now it's not good enough. I offered my FB account, send a picture, video chat.
Finally I said I did what she asked, if that wasn't good enough I'll polietly move on. One of the providers she suggested me get a reference from actually rubbed me the right way, so I thank you for your suggestion and I'll continue seeing her.
This is supposed to be a getaway from real life for 30 or 60 minutes to relax and fulfill needs, not cause extra added stress.
DaytonSteve
02-23-18, 12:15
There a huge difffence in being cautious and flat out paranoid. I can appreciate her wanting to protect her and her clients, but her process makes people like me want to just move on and say fuck it.
I've been out of the hobby for a little bit. A few weeks ago I contacted her and she wanted references. The only ones that's I've seen that are still in the game is EE and he won't give references for anyone (to me that's another issues).
I seen a beautiful amazing provider today and Sincy contacted her for a reference and she gladly gave one. I'm not one to screw everyone all over the board, so I'll pick two or three in case someone is busy. Sincy contacted me and told me the provider gave a reference for me. Great. When do we start? So she asks for another one. A few weeks ago it was get a good reference from one of these providers, so I did. Now it's not good enough. I offered my FB account, send a picture, video chat.
Finally I said I did what she asked, if that wasn't good enough I'll polietly move on. One of the providers she suggested me get a reference from actually rubbed me the right way, so I thank you for your suggestion and I'll continue seeing her.
This is supposed to be a getaway from real life for 30 or 60 minutes to relax and fulfill needs, not cause extra added stress.When I first came back in June or July I really only wanted to see her but she told me I needed references which I set out to get. I proceeded to see 5 or 6 different providers over about 2 months and then went back to Sincy with my handful of references. One of them was Lacey Foxx who I was seeing a couple times a week at the time and the others were all well known and reviewed. Just like you, I give her my entire history in writing both as a PM here and by Text. For each provider I offered some info for the lady to remember me by. One example was I parked in the wrong place at one girls and we had a laugh about it so I figured that would be a good way to remember me. So after giving her my entire history for those 2 months she completely ghosted me. Lacey kept asking me if I had gotten to see her and assured me she gave me a good reference. My point is that now Sincy knows everything there is to know about me in my own words in writing! Good for her to be safe but what about my safety and my need to be discreet? I have no idea what she will do with my information, I've never met her, I don't know anything about her. Anyway I learned my lesson, no way in hell will I ever offer up that kind of information again. Like you I have found others who I have become quite fond of. So that couple grand I spent in those 2 months could have gone to Sincy but I guess she has plenty of clients and doesn't need it. Bring on the white Knights! You (white knights) can try to blame me all you want but I'm Clean, attractive, reliable, gentle and respectful so I can promise you it's not me, it's her!
When I first came back in June or July I really only wanted to see her but she told me I needed references which I set out to get. I proceeded to see 5 or 6 different providers over about 2 months and then went back to Sincy with my handful of references. One of them was Lacey Foxx who I was seeing a couple times a week at the time and the others were all well known and reviewed. Just like you, I give her my entire history in writing both as a PM here and by Text. For each provider I offered some info for the lady to remember me by. One example was I parked in the wrong place at one girls and we had a laugh about it so I figured that would be a good way to remember me. So after giving her my entire history for those 2 months she completely ghosted me. Lacey kept asking me if I had gotten to see her and assured me she gave me a good reference. My point is that now Sincy knows everything there is to know about me in my own words in writing! Good for her to be safe but what about my safety and my need to be discreet? I have no idea what she will do with my information, I've never met her, I don't know anything about her. Anyway I learned my lesson, no way in hell will I ever offer up that kind of information again. Like you I have found others who I have become quite fond of. So that couple grand I spent in those 2 months could have gone to Sincy but I guess she has plenty of clients and doesn't need it. Bring on the white Knights! You (white knights) can try to blame me all you want but I'm Clean, attractive, reliable, gentle and respectful so I can promise you it's not me, it's her!Without seeing her, I'm willing to guess that's she's very good a jacking men off.
SincyCinnamon
02-23-18, 15:33
Hello gentleman,
So after my horrific experience back in October I've become much more diligent asking for references. I require at least 2 to meet. Sometimes if your an active senior on here and I can look into your posts then I can do with just one reliable ref. Some girls you guys provide will not get back to me. It's not your fault and it's not mine. So while it may seem that your providing me with references they won't ever get back so I have to wait to hear from someone. Also, some references you provide have no history or no reviews so I have absolutely no idea if I can trust them. I understand that this can be frustrating. It's frustrating for me as well. But for my own peace of mind I have to do it this way. I want to enjoy our session as much as you do, knowing that you are safe helps me to relax. In any event sorry for any frustration my screening process caused and I do hope I can meet you all in the future.
Happy mongering and stay safe!
HuntLadys29
02-23-18, 17:16
When I first came back in June or July I really only wanted to see her but she told me I needed references which I set out to get. I proceeded to see 5 or 6 different providers over about 2 months and then went back to Sincy with my handful of references. One of them was Lacey Foxx who I was seeing a couple times a week at the time and the others were all well known and reviewed. Just like you, I give her my entire history in writing both as a PM here and by Text. For each provider I offered some info for the lady to remember me by. One example was I parked in the wrong place at one girls and we had a laugh about it so I figured that would be a good way to remember me. So after giving her my entire history for those 2 months she completely ghosted me. Lacey kept asking me if I had gotten to see her and assured me she gave me a good reference. My point is that now Sincy knows everything there is to know about me in my own words in writing! Good for her to be safe but what about my safety and my need to be discreet? I have no idea what she will do with my information, I've never met her, I don't know anything about her. Anyway I learned my lesson, no way in hell will I ever offer up that kind of information again. Like you I have found others who I have become quite fond of. So that couple grand I spent in those 2 months could have gone to Sincy but I guess she has plenty of clients and doesn't need it. Bring on the white Knights! You (white knights) can try to blame me all you want but I'm Clean, attractive, reliable, gentle and respectful so I can promise you it's not me, it's her!There is nobody I want to see that bad. One reference should be good enough. I think I made my first post on here November 2012 or thereabouts. If I send her a text that I want to see her, then send her a pm if that's not enough then that's another lady I'd like to bang but won't get the chance. I see girls everyday I think to myself man I'd like to hit that but alas it didn't happen and won't happen she will just join the list. Plus I'm sure her rate is high because she thinks she's worth more for whatever reason. And I'm cool on that. Way to many women out there ready and willing to go maybe if people started not going through those ridiculous changes she sends people through maybe she will change. HL29.
There is nobody I want to see that bad. One reference should be good enough. I think I made my first post on here November 2012 or thereabouts. If I send her a text that I want to see her, then send her a pm if that's not enough then that's another lady I'd like to bang but won't get the chance. I see girls everyday I think to myself man I'd like to hit that but alas it didn't happen and won't happen she will just join the list. Plus I'm sure her rate is high because she thinks she's worth more for whatever reason. And I'm cool on that. Way to many women out there ready and willing to go maybe if people started not going through those ridiculous changes she sends people through maybe she will change. HL29.These women who want 150-200 and hour and how many of us have to work how long to make that amount and they want it in an hour. Don't want to hear I have rent, and expenses to pay. So do we You think we just make our money on a printing press to shell out. Hell I paid a woman and her kids 2 over five hundred so they could have a decent Christmas. She supposedly is a MIT and haven't heard back on that one. From now on I get what I want the way I want it or find someone who will provide it for me. Too many ladies who still think $$s in the wallet is worth more than laying on their asses sleeping in and then crying cause they don't have any money for bills food and clothing for them and their kids. It's a FKING BUSINESS and if you can be a friend to a degree even better but GD few clients and providers ever get married so don't get pissed off when you don't have the cash. I know what I want and how I want it. If you want to provide it fine. If not no problem but my dollars will go somewhere else, and it is out there eiher on USASG, CL, EB, the oThER sites or a number of other sites where ladies like the feel of green in their purses. Just lay down for an hour and let's get busy. If we become friends even better. If not nothing gained nothing lost. Game over I got it you want it and you have what I want. That is what it amounts to. Hell if I like you I have been known to take a lady out to dinner just to show my appreciation for services rendered.
Contacted four more for this weekend NO ANSWERS no VM returns. NO SYMPATHY HERE Sorry not being calous just not a TIME WASTER.
There is nobody I want to see that bad. One reference should be good enough. I think I made my first post on here November 2012 or thereabouts. If I send her a text that I want to see her, then send her a pm if that's not enough then that's another lady I'd like to bang but won't get the chance. I see girls everyday I think to myself man I'd like to hit that but alas it didn't happen and won't happen she will just join the list. Plus I'm sure her rate is high because she thinks she's worth more for whatever reason. And I'm cool on that. Way to many women out there ready and willing to go maybe if people started not going through those ridiculous changes she sends people through maybe she will change. HL29.I have had ladies not meet with me that I really wanted to get together with. This is to relieve stress not create it. I can get that at home. I just chalk it up and move on. Just remember, they have what we all want.
EloquentEven
02-23-18, 23:23
There a huge difffence in being cautious and flat out paranoid. I can appreciate her wanting to protect her and her clients, but her process makes people like me want to just move on and say fuck it.
I've been out of the hobby for a little bit. A few weeks ago I contacted her and she wanted references. The only ones that's I've seen that are still in the game is EE and he won't give references for anyone (to me that's another issues).
I seen a beautiful amazing provider today and Sincy contacted her for a reference and she gladly gave one. I'm not one to screw everyone all over the board, so I'll pick two or three in case someone is busy. Sincy contacted me and told me the provider gave a reference for me. Great. When do we start? So she asks for another one. A few weeks ago it was get a good reference from one of these providers, so I did. Now it's not good enough. I offered my FB account, send a picture, video chat.
Finally I said I did what she asked, if that wasn't good enough I'll polietly move on. One of the providers she suggested me get a reference from actually rubbed me the right way, so I thank you for your suggestion and I'll continue seeing her.
This is supposed to be a getaway from real life for 30 or 60 minutes to relax and fulfill needs, not cause extra added stress.Not sure where you are getting your info from but verify clients everyday. Now some ladies do not even ask me for references or.
I choose not to verify with some because of prior issues and yes Cinnamon is one of them. But I have numerous posts from providers even Thanking me for replying to their requests quickly. I am a man so I know how men are as variety is the spice of life. Safety is no. 1 for me as no one will see any EE lady without being screened and verified. Do not believe everything these ladies tell you. I consider myself neutral as I see things from the provider side of things and also the clients side. Anyone, providers or clients can text me anytime if they need something. I'm not saying I'm perfect as I am not but I just try be consistent. Stay safe everyone.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-24-18, 01:01
Steve,
I know that what you say about your business practices are true. I know several ladies who think you verification is golden.
Of all of the agencies I have dealt with over my twenty year hobby career yours is one of the best.
Keep doing what you do our is greatly appreciated.
BTB.
Not sure where you are getting your info from but verify clients everyday. Now some ladies do not even ask me for references or.
I choose not to verify with some because of prior issues and yes Cinnamon is one of them. But I have numerous posts from providers even Thanking me for replying to their requests quickly. I am a man so I know how men are as variety is the spice of life. Safety is no. 1 for me as no one will see any EE lady without being screened and verified. Do not believe everything these ladies tell you. I consider myself neutral as I see things from the provider side of things and also the clients side. Anyone, providers or clients can text me anytime if they need something. I'm not saying I'm perfect as I am not but I just try be consistent. Stay safe everyone.
Not sure where you are getting your info from but verify clients everyday. Now some ladies do not even ask me for references or.
I choose not to verify with some because of prior issues and yes Cinnamon is one of them. But I have numerous posts from providers even Thanking me for replying to their requests quickly. I am a man so I know how men are as variety is the spice of life. Safety is no. 1 for me as no one will see any EE lady without being screened and verified. Do not believe everything these ladies tell you. I consider myself neutral as I see things from the provider side of things and also the clients side. Anyone, providers or clients can text me anytime if they need something. I'm not saying I'm perfect as I am not but I just try be consistent. Stay safe everyone.Thank you for clarifying Steve. I offered information to Sincy to verify with EE because I've seen several of your girls over the years. She told me you don't do references. Because this is the first time I've had to get references I was led to believe it's not Something you do.
At 140 for a HH I know a lot of other providers who'd love the business including yourself without all the other bs that comes with it.
With all of the talk of various screening processes I wanted to comment. First of all Steve has been great to deal with from all sides of the hobby. I am surprised at the lengths he goes to at times when there is no financial incentive for him. I guess he feels if he helps out, maybe you will remember him next time you have a need.
I happened to see Cinnamon a few times before she changed her requirements. I will say I always had a great time. The biggest reason I do not see her is it is about a 45 minute drive for me. That and the fact my ability to find time to monger has diminished drastically in the last couple of years.
What I consider reasonable you may not. Some ladies have no requirements other than you bring cash. Some want credit card payments in advance. Some want cash plus 3 references, 2 references or one. Some will only accept references from someone they know. Recently we have been talking about some ladies wanting a pic in advance. Then some will only accept validated memberships in certain organizations. Some pussy has no cash requirements but you may need to put in a lot of time and flowers to get it. The point is everything has a price and either you are willing to pay it or not.
A couple of years ago I wanted to see Molly Daniels it never happened. I sent her some references, it did not fit what she wanted and I did not want to put forth extra effort to make the engagement. Who knows. It may have been the worst mistake of my hobby life. She does not generally want reviews but if you do enough checking you will find she has a stellar reputation.
I also thought about seeing Sara Tongue Twister. Once again I did not want to put in the effort, in other words pay the price.
I appreciate all the information here. It saves me time. I am never going to spend time trying to set up a date with someone who wants a pic.
Just like any private enterprise you live and die by the decisions you make. I am never going to go in to Jeff Ruby's and tell him what to charge me. I know it is going to cost and I am willing to pay. If he decides next week to say if you eat here it is going to cost the same money plus, you can only come in with a Tux and shoes that cost a minimum of $600, then I will need to decide if I want to pay the price to eat in his restaurant.
The nice thing about pussy is there is a lot of it around. About half of the population has it. I have seen a lot I would like to have. I have never seen one I could not live with out.
If you do not like their business model do what most of us do in the private sector, we vote with our wallets. I don't care if it is Jeff Ruby's, McDonald's, a streetwalker or a high end escort service. I have the cash and I will decide if and when to spend it depending on what I am getting and or giving up in the process.
Now go have fun.
Fdx.
FukySuky69
02-24-18, 16:09
Long time follower, first time post. I've received some good info from you all hope to return the good times to ya. Will post more shortly. Thanks, be safe.
Ace Johnson
02-24-18, 16:09
When it comes to screening, I'm not willing to give out any personal information, period. I understand this has cost me the opportunity to see some wonderful providers. I've been a VIP member of the #1 verification site on the web for several years and I have over 20 provider okays on that site. I have a family and I'm self employed and I'm not going to jeopardize any of that. The only time this has been an issue is with a couple of agencies, however, most agencies have no problem accepting my business after checking me out on that site. My biggest fear is an agency's office gets raided and amongst the other contact info is my contact info with all my personal info. You get the picture. I don't mind giving references, I have many. I understand these agencies wanting to know where they're sending these young ladies, so I don't take it personal or get upset and we've agreeably agreed not to do business. I certainly agree with FDX when he said he's only going to exert so much energy to set something up-there's only so many hoops I'm going to jump through- I had an almost identical experience with Molly, however, Sarah TT was happy to see me and I had a wonderful time, I left her a glowing review on anoThER site and she was kind enough to give me a provider okay and agreed to give a reference if needed. This is an interesting topic and I thought I'd offer my 2 cents. Be safe and have fun, Ace.
UOnlyLiveOnce
02-24-18, 18:10
When it comes to screening, I'm not willing to give out any personal information, period. I understand this has cost me the opportunity to see some wonderful providers. I've been a VIP member of the #1 verification site on the web for several years and I have over 20 provider okays on that site. I have a family and I'm self employed and I'm not going to jeopardize any of that. The only time this has been an issue is with a couple of agencies, however, most agencies have no problem accepting my business after checking me out on that site. My biggest fear is an agency's office gets raided and amongst the other contact info is my contact info with all my personal info. You get the picture. I don't mind giving references, I have many. I understand these agencies wanting to know where they're sending these young ladies, so I don't take it personal or get upset and we've agreeably agreed not to do business. I certainly agree with FDX when he said he's only going to exert so much energy to set something up-there's only so many hoops I'm going to jump through- I had an almost identical experience with Molly, however, Sarah TT was happy to see me and I had a wonderful time, I left her a glowing review on anoThER site and she was kind enough to give me a provider okay and agreed to give a reference if needed. This is an interesting topic and I thought I'd offer my 2 cents. Be safe and have fun, Ace.I never give out personal information. I don't even tell anyone my real first name. I'm fine with giving references, but nothing more than that. My ground rules, along with reading the advice and the reports here have served me very well. I'm going to stick with what works.
A couple of years ago I wanted to see Molly Daniels it never happened. I sent her some references, it did not fit what she wanted and I did not want to put forth extra effort to make the engagement. Who knows. It may have been the worst mistake of my hobby life. She does not generally want reviews but if you do enough checking you will find she has a stellar reputation.
Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.
With all of the talk of various screening processes I wanted to comment. First of all Steve has been great to deal with from all sides of the hobby. I am surprised at the lengths he goes to at times when there is no financial incentive for him. I guess he feels if he helps out, maybe you will remember him next time you have a need.
I happened to see Cinnamon a few times before she changed her requirements. I will say I always had a great time. The biggest reason I do not see her is it is about a 45 minute drive for me. That and the fact my ability to find time to monger has diminished drastically in the last couple of years.
What I consider reasonable you may not. Some ladies have no requirements other than you bring cash. Some want credit card payments in advance. Some want cash plus 3 references, 2 references or one. Some will only accept references from someone they know. Recently we have been talking about some ladies wanting a pic in advance. Then some will only accept validated memberships in certain organizations. Some pussy has no cash requirements but you may need to put in a lot of time and flowers to get it. The point is everything has a price and either you are willing to pay it or not.
A couple of years ago I wanted to see Molly Daniels it never happened. I sent her some references, it did not fit what she wanted and I did not want to put forth extra effort to make the engagement. Who knows. It may have been the worst mistake of my hobby life. She does not generally want reviews but if you do enough checking you will find she has a stellar reputation.
I also thought about seeing Sara Tongue Twister. Once again I did not want to put in the effort, in other words pay the price.
I appreciate all the information here. It saves me time. I am never going to spend time trying to set up a date with someone who wants a pic.
Just like any private enterprise you live and die by the decisions you make. I am never going to go in to Jeff Ruby's and tell him what to charge me. I know it is going to cost and I am willing to pay. If he decides next week to say if you eat here it is going to cost the same money plus, you can only come in with a Tux and shoes that cost a minimum of $600, then I will need to decide if I want to pay the price to eat in his restaurant.
The nice thing about pussy is there is a lot of it around. About half of the population has it. I have seen a lot I would like to have. I have never seen one I could not live with out.
If you do not like their business model do what most of us do in the private sector, we vote with our wallets. I don't care if it is Jeff Ruby's, McDonald's, a streetwalker or a high end escort service. I have the cash and I will decide if and when to spend it depending on what I am getting and or giving up in the process.
Now go have fun.
Fdx.Well said.
Simp4ebony
02-25-18, 09:52
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.I've never saved up for an experience at the "higher end" of the hobby, and your post makes me think that maybe there is no reason to.
JustForKicks63
02-25-18, 10:04
I agree with you. Not everyone connects in the same way. I do believe some are just looking for a decent girl who can take a pounding and others are looking for a connection of some sort.
When I do find a girl I can connect with, meaning physically and intimately I tend to see her regularly. However that connection seems to wain over time as most of these ladies can only pretend for a short while. I have had a couple that I feel have had deeper connection to but they meet their Prince and soon after they close up shop.
This is why I ask not if they are GFE or PSE but ONS. Yes ONS = One Night Stand. I want a girl with that kind or fire and excitement. We have all had ONS that have turned into GF but not always. The girls probably don't like this designation as it assumes one and done, no repeating but I feel a ONS can be revisited you just don't see her exclusively or publicly.
Play safe.
JFK.
I've never saved up for an experience at the "higher end" of the hobby, and your post makes me think that maybe there is no reason to.If you want to expand your horizons in the 3-$400 range, check out Flawless Escorts, XO Companions, and Touring Companions. Check EROS or you can google them. They have VERY hot South American and Russian girls coming through town periodically. Nice hotels, squeaky clean, nice lingerie, wine, etc. My experiences have ranged from very attractive to flat out gorgeous (actual Runway model), excellent GFE, and several got quite kinky if you were nice to them and they liked you.
This one has been through Cincy several times. Photos are absolutely real and she knocked my socks off. The boobs are absolutely real, and as they say, " the nicest pair I've ever come across".
http://www.flawlessescorts.com/model-detail/?id=103
Plan on taking a shower when you arrive (the cleaner you get, the dirtier they'll get! I've tried several of the higher priced local talent- Sara TT and Anastasia Rose were in their class, but overall the touring girls were better- my worst experience with them was still damn good.
For $150, you tend to get someone who is high volume with a place that's a dump and stinks of cigarettes. The girls are understandable tired, and get used to guys who are dirty and treat them badly. As the computer programmers used to say, GIGO- garbage in, garbage out.
My $. 02 worth.
The good dr.
ChromeMan109
02-25-18, 13:14
I am not sure where to ask about this. Is Solo Brookie still around? Is she the one with EE now? There were too many "Brookies" for a while. I had seen her several times in the past and had a great time but am not sure if she is still around. Sweet southern accent, DD, jet black hair, pretty face and full service. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks CM109.
Simp4ebony
02-25-18, 13:39
If you want to expand your horizons in the 3-$400 range, check out Flawless Escorts, XO Companions, and Touring Companions. Check EROS or you can google them. They have VERY hot South American and Russian girls coming through town periodically. Nice hotels, squeaky clean, nice lingerie, wine, etc. My experiences have ranged from very attractive to flat out gorgeous (actual Runway model), excellent GFE, and several got quite kinky if you were nice to them and they liked you.
This one has been through Cincy several times. Photos are absolutely real and she knocked my socks off. The boobs are absolutely real, and as they say, " the nicest pair I've ever come across".
http://www.flawlessescorts.com/model-detail/?id=103
Plan on taking a shower when you arrive (the cleaner you get, the dirtier they'll get! I've tried several of the higher priced local talent- Sara TT and Anastasia Rose were in their class, but overall the touring girls were better- my worst experience with them was still damn good.
For $150, you tend to get someone who is high volume with a place that's a dump and stinks of cigarettes. The girls are understandable tired, and get used to guys who are dirty and treat them badly. As the computer programmers used to say, GIGO- garbage in, garbage out.
My $. 02 worth.
The good dr.As far as "high end" black girls are concerned, I've been looking at Melanie York. But, again, I don't know if it would be worth saving up. That means I'd miss several encounters with someone like Thalia just to meet her for an hour. Can it really be worth it?
WanderingAbout
02-25-18, 16:15
Word has it she got marriad, joined the military and is no longer around. Could be wrong. Just passing info received this weekend.
As far as "high end" black girls are concerned, I've been looking at Melanie York. But, again, I don't know if it would be worth saving up. That means I'd miss several encounters with someone like Thalia just to meet her for an hour. Can it really be worth it?I've seen Laila Cruz- very pretty, great body, pretty good menu (I believe she charges extra for Greek). But I will see SaraTT, Busty Red or Kellie for $ less and have a better time with it. Is being young, black and hot worth the extra for you?
D.
Simp4ebony
02-25-18, 20:14
I've seen Laila Cruz- very pretty, great body, pretty good menu (I believe she charges extra for Greek). But I will see SaraTT, Busty Red or Kellie for $ less and have a better time with it. Is being young, black and hot worth the extra for you?
D.Young, black, and hot? That's pretty much the only thing I'm in this hobby for! LOL.
RodeoClown928
02-26-18, 06:46
I am not sure where to ask about this. Is Solo Brookie still around? Is she the one with EE now? There were too many "Brookies" for a while. I had seen her several times in the past and had a great time but am not sure if she is still around. Sweet southern accent, DD, jet black hair, pretty face and full service. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks CM109.She is with EE.
HotCoffee1984
02-26-18, 18:55
Hello Gents, I'm not a frequenter here or in the hobby the last few years. My last regulars were the great Sasha black and cupcake, since then I have only seen girls a handful of times. I'm here seeking your advice on whom to see first between Brookee with EE or Anna Banana. This will be my first meet in about a year and hope it's memorable. I would like you guys' opinion who will be preferable based on looks, performance, body, and price in that order. I have read a lot reviews here about these ladies already but still not sure. If you like to suggest someone else outside of the two, please feel free.
Lmao. That's f'ing hilarious!! My reaction exactly!!
CEEnote, that's a huge coincidence dude! I know I know. I'm just trying to make up.
For my absent mindedness all these years.I completely missed the humor of my own post so thanks for pointing it out! Yes I have two E's in my user name, however, I am not affiliated in any way with the agency EE! I moved this here so as not to clutter up the review thread with non-review banter.
All of this chatter about EE does remind me though that it has been quite a while since I last saw Brookee so maybe I need to be making an appointment.
DaytonSteve
02-27-18, 10:51
Hello Gents, I'm not a frequenter here or in the hobby the last few years. My last regulars were the great Sasha black and cupcake, since then I have only seen girls a handful of times. I'm here seeking your advice on whom to see first between Brookee with EE or Anna Banana. This will be my first meet in about a year and hope it's memorable. I would like you guys' opinion who will be preferable based on looks, performance, body, and price in that order. I have read a lot reviews here about these ladies already but still not sure. If you like to suggest someone else outside of the two, please feel free.It all depends on what you like. Both girls are legit so see them both and decide which you like better. I'd add Lacey Foxx into your mix as well, I think everyone should see her at least once or 10 times.
CrissyLynn2015
02-27-18, 12:41
Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?
Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?Spray Febreeze for any odor absorbing fabrics or porous surfaces. Occasional Febreeze candles to eliminate and lingering odors in the air.
Bam.
CincyHobbist
02-27-18, 15:32
Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?Sells a product called odor ban! It works rather well. Fresh air helps a lot to. If possible spray and vent the area.
MontyCliff
02-27-18, 15:36
Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?https://dengarden.com/cleaning/How-to-Get-Rid-of-Smoke-Smell
I know white vinegar is good for pet and smoke smells. Never tried spreading baking soda or bowls of charcoal, but it makes sense.
TennVols77
02-27-18, 16:08
Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?ODOR XIT is supposed to be a fine product. Never have used it, but, people swear by it.
Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I pla n smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?Chloe Starr has some machine that is a "smoke eater"- I'm super sensitive but couldn't smell any smoke whatsoever. By the way, thank you for working on this- smoke is both a major turnoff for me, and a red flag when I come home. I've had to stop seeing several providers I really liked because of this. You will increase your appeal- good move!
The good dr.
Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?Ozium air sanitizer works pretty well.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-27-18, 22:21
She got out for under $100 On Amazon. Works great.
I think this is it...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JAP7388/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Chloe Starr has some machine that is a "smoke eater"- I'm super sensitive but couldn't smell any smoke whatsoever. By the way, thank you for working on this- smoke is both a major turnoff for me, and a red flag when I come home. I've had to stop seeing several providers I really liked because of this. You will increase your appeal- good move!
The good dr.
LoveThyTitties
02-27-18, 22:49
Hey all!
Hope everything is great! Jut have a quick question. I'm a smoker and well have noticed my new place does have a small cigg smell and that just won't do! I plab on smoking outside from her on BUT what would be easiest way to get this smell out?You can rent an ozone generator from a tool rental. But people shouldn't be there while it's running. It works and is not expensive.
You can rent an ozone generator from a tool rental. But people shouldn't be there while it's running. It works and is not expensive.This is a cheap alternative: you can offer your clients a heavy plastic bag to keep their clothes in while they're with you. It's certainly not the best solution, but it would add one more layer of protection.
Alaska Tom
02-28-18, 01:59
Ozium air sanitizer works pretty well.You can find Ozium at auto stores like Pep Boys, Auto Zone, etc. It works treating killing off smoke and pet smells.
Tickle Jay
02-28-18, 04:54
ODOR XIT is supposed to be a fine product. Never have used it, but, people swear by it.Works very well, and is available in small spray bottles that are easy to take with you. They also have a couple of different air purifier products. And, their HQ is in West Chester, so you're supporting a local business.
CrissyLynn2015
03-01-18, 13:05
You can rent an ozone generator from a tool rental. But people shouldn't be there while it's running. It works and is not expensive.This is to everyone who responded! I really appreciate your input and ill start looking into these things and get ir done! Everyone have a great fuuuuuckinnn Thursday LOL.
This is to everyone who responded! I really appreciate your input and ill start looking into these things and get ir done! Everyone have a great fuuuuuckinnn Thursday LOL.I guess sharing a smoke between rounds is out of the question now. LOL.
LoveThyTitties
03-02-18, 11:33
This is to everyone who responded! I really appreciate your input and ill start looking into these things and get ir done! Everyone have a great fuuuuuckinnn Thursday LOL.Your fucking welcome! LOL.
CrissyLynn2015
03-02-18, 11:47
Your fucking welcome! LOL.Did you have a good fuuuckin Thursday? LOL.
LoveThyTitties
03-02-18, 18:28
Did you have a good fuuuckin Thursday? LOL.Nope. I should have called in sick and visited you!
Ace Johnson
03-03-18, 15:53
Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.I've been in the hobby since '11 and am a VIP member of the #1 provider / client verification site on the web with 20+ provider okays and have written over 50 reviews on anoThER site. I'm not trying to impress anyone (not that anyone would give a shit), just want to establish that I've been around the block a time or two.
Yes, someone having good reviews and charging $500.00/ hr doesn't make them a great provider, been there and done that. But what I do when checking out a provider is look at the reviews, if a client gives a rating of 9 or 10, I check out the clients history. If he consistently gives out 9's and 10's like candy at holloween, I'll take his review a little less seriously. Conversely, if that reviewer has a history of thoughtfully giving out different grades, I'll give his rating a little more weight. This has helped me to find providers that dish out the type of service I prefer. I still get disappointed from time to time but it happens less frequently. When I write a review I not only relate the mechanics of my session, I try to relate the overall atmosphere.
I have not seen Molly nor have I seen the video, but I'm one of the 'most guys' that have no problem seeing a provider who is working and being friendly in the process. If she wasn't working, there would be no need of a 'donation', of course she's working. As far as finding a provider who 'enjoys fucking me on a primitive level', I have no delusions as to what's happening here, as RogerOver so eloquently put it, "if you want to test out that 'love thing', stop paying. Having said that, I enjoy a session more if a provider seems to enjoy our time together and even more if I'm convinced she does. I've also seen providers that I got the impression they wished they were anywhere else doing anything other than what they were doing- I don't call on these a 2nd time. I tried to set up a session with Molly, but she didn't accept my references for whatever reason. Her screening process is her screening process and I didn't take it personal.
There was a post in here (not sure which forum) where a hobbyist said if he was impressed with a provider, he would take them out to lunch or dinner. Personally, I'm not interested in having a meal with an escort any more that she might be interested in going out with me. If I feel a provider has gone the extra mile, I'll drop a 50 or c-note on top of the envelope on my way out. This is what she's there for and the great service is what I'm there for. Besides, I might get preferred booking status if I call on her again.
Also as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, no BBBJ is a deal breaker for me but I won't do BBFS. I know there's a chance of contracting something via BBBJ, but it's miniscule and almost automatic from BBFS.
Not looking for a pissing contest, this is just my humble opinion. Be safe and have fun, Ace.
Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.I pay attention to very very few reviewers here in regards especially to appearance but also to performance. I look mostly at the ripoff reviews as I find them the most informative. There are some reviewers here I pay zero attention to as every single provider they are with is great, mind blowing etc. Some others too that describe a provider as attractive and she is, at least in my opinion, flat out unattractive. We all have our standards and preferences but a lot here, once again in my opinion, have very low standards. And to them, whom some are "highly regarded" reviewers, I pay no attention. There are about 2 mongers here I listen to their opinion. Most of the time if they rate a provider not well or so so they are attacked by the group that loves her. I pay attention the individual and not the group. So I agree that a great review on here doesn't necessarily mean the provider is great. Not only does YMMV apply to the providers, but also TWGS to the reviews. Taken With a Grain of Salt.
Stellar reviews that high are not all they are cracked up to be.
Some providers with stellar reps will avoid seeing guys who post honest negative reviews. They will be hard to meet up with, and I've had them ask me about more detail regarding those negative reviews. I had this issue with Molly, and a few much more expensive regional ladies who had all 9's /10's on other boards. Not all of them balked entirely. But nearly all of them asked me about my reasons for leaving non-stellar reviews.
In a long-retired first identity, I used to post a high number of always honest reviews. Many positive, but a few negative and never any raving / stellar reviews. The negatives were not hateful rants. I was forced to retire that handle for other reasons. But prior to all of that, I lost interest in seeing Molly after our interaction. And I was very happy I never wasted my time with her once I saw that old dude's video*.
Did you know that wine subjectively tastes better when we are told it was expensive? Humans are very bad at remaining objective about anything.
Around here, the top tier girls charge 2-3 times the average hourly rate of the middle-tier girls: $300-500. The men who pay these rates have primed themselves to value her highly regardless of the objective experience. Even before dropping the money into the crisp white envelope, they are convinced of their superior selection. They believe she must be "worth it". They think they are better than the peasants who "can't afford" quality and this makes them feel good. They believe that her golden pussy must be safe from the filthy, dirty dicks of those same poor peasant men (she's not, because lots of guys regularly fuck SW and also fuck these higher-priced girls). They tell themselves repeatedly that you get what you pay for, and the hookers they pay repeat this, and they tell each other this on all available platforms. And every negative experience that guys report about on the lower levels is chalked up to "you get what you pay for". Despite all the evidence to the contrary.
All this creates an unspoken pact between the higher priced girls and their adoring clients. The guys who think that paying more means getting "the best" (even though it's artificial and predictable) have a psychological interest in re-affirming this. The girls weed out the guys who don't play into this facade. And the clueless men on the outside take it at face value.
Once I experienced the high-priced-market and learned the truth about the whole thing, I lost all interest in seeing these high-rated girls. Well, that an seeing a number of them and not being impressed. I had better experiences with UTR / non-advertisers. And realized how much YMMV makes non-functional** reviews worthless.
You can't buy chemistry. Financial exclusivity doesn't directly relate to risk analysis. Hoops don't mean the prize is worth the jumping. There's a guy here who's seen some famous porn chicks. He also has gotten STDs from cheap, young barebacking drug addicts working the street and backpage. You have to read between the lines and pay attention, but I have no doubt he barebacks all his dates. I have no doubt he barebacked the expensive and harder to access porn star. And I suspect if he had something serious, he'd still be doing this. He might even become more careless. And I suspect he is not unique in his predilections at all. But that's a separate issue, though related. This business is framed in myths.
It happens here as well, without rated reviews. Some prominent reviewers have a vested interest in you going where they tell you to. Money. Promises. Sometimes just weird little-boy ego.
* I am sure she has fans here. But what I saw in that video is her working a job and being friendly about it. Not a negative for most guys, but for me it is. I only enjoy women who actually enjoy fucking me on a primitive level. That's not a value judgement of Molly. I've never met her in person. It's like having a competent waitress who wants to do a good job and brings you everything you ask while waiting on a dozen other tables, versus having one who would ditch her job in a second to hop into your car and go for a ride. Even if you never ask her to, that burger tastes much better. Molly might be that for some of her clients. Unless she is all blocked up and can't feel anything. But that video showed me what her business face looked like and confirmed that she's just a jobber like most of the girls who do this for more than a few weeks. Competent, reliable, but not my type.
** Functional reviews focus on the details of setup / location / accuracy of pictures / etc. How much, how long, etc. Saying her location is in a poor part of town, but felt safe is functionally useful. Non-functional reviews focus on the details that are highly subjective. Saying "she gave me the best BBBJ of my life! Or "she has the best ass guys!" Is worthless. It's just shill-bullshit. I don't care. Most likely I don't find her BBBJ to be that great and her ass is probably huge and full of cellulite you over-exclaiming shill. You can write it, and a few weirdos can jerk off to it. But it's not useful to most of us.I pay attention to very very few reviewers here in regards especially to appearance but also to performance. I look mostly at the ripoff reviews, no shows, crickets and bait and switches as I find them the most informative. There are some reviewers here I pay zero attention to as every single provider they are with is great, mind blowing etc. Some others too that describe a provider as attractive and she is, at least in my opinion, flat out unattractive. We all have our standards and preferences but a lot here, once again in my opinion, have very low standards. And to them, whom some are "highly regarded" reviewers, I pay no attention. There are about 2 mongers here I listen to their opinion. Most of the time if they rate a provider not well or so so they are attacked by the group that loves her. I pay attention the individual and not the group. So I agree that a great review on here doesn't necessarily mean the provider is great. Not only does YMMV apply to the providers, but also TWGS to the reviews. Taken With a Grain of Salt. And I suppose to others you can take that opinion with me.
CrissyLynn2015
03-04-18, 14:36
Nope. I should have called in sick and visited you!Yea cause you would have had way more fun lmao!
Simp4ebony
03-07-18, 18:50
Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off!
Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off!You sir are my hero. I have 0 game that's one of the many reasons I'm on here.
I've been in the hobby since '11 and am a VIP member of the #1 provider / client verification site on the web with 20+ provider okays and have written over 50 reviews on anoThER site. I'm not trying to impress anyone (not that anyone would give a shit), just want to establish that I've been around the block a time or two.
Yes, someone having good reviews and charging $500.00/ hr doesn't make them a great provider, been there and done that. But what I do when checking out a provider is look at the reviews, if a client gives a rating of 9 or 10, I check out the clients history. If he consistently gives out 9's and 10's like candy at holloween, I'll take his review a little less seriously. Conversely, if that reviewer has a history of thoughtfully giving out different grades, I'll give his rating a little more weight. This has helped me to find providers that dish out the type of service I prefer. I still get disappointed from time to time but it happens less frequently. When I write a review I not only relate the mechanics of my session, I try to relate the overall atmosphere.
I have not seen Molly nor have I seen the video, but I'm one of the 'most guys' that have no problem seeing a provider who is working and being friendly in the process. If she wasn't working, there would be no need of a 'donation', of course she's working. As far as finding a provider who 'enjoys fucking me on a primitive level', I have no delusions as to what's happening here, as RogerOver so eloquently put it, "if you want to test out that 'love thing', stop paying. Having said that, I enjoy a session more if a provider seems to enjoy our time together and even more if I'm convinced she does. I've also seen providers that I got the impression they wished they were anywhere else doing anything other than what they were doing- I don't call on these a 2nd time. I tried to set up a session with Molly, but she didn't accept my references for whatever reason. Her screening process is her screening process and I didn't take it personal.
There was a post in here (not sure which forum) where a hobbyist said if he was impressed with a provider, he would take them out to lunch or dinner. Personally, I'm not interested in having a meal with an escort any more that she might be interested in going out with me. If I feel a provider has gone the extra mile, I'll drop a 50 or c-note on top of the envelope on my way out. This is what she's there for and the great service is what I'm there for. Besides, I might get preferred booking status if I call on her again.
Also as far as the alphabet soup is concerned, no BBBJ is a deal breaker for me but I won't do BBFS. I know there's a chance of contracting something via BBBJ, but it's miniscule and almost automatic from BBFS.
Not looking for a pissing contest, this is just my humble opinion. Be safe and have fun, Ace."enjoying sex on a primitive level" is not "love". I think you are unclear about the broad distinction between those two concepts.
You can have primitive sexual chemistry with someone and not even like them. And You can care deeply for someone, admire them, think they are beautiful and perfect in their imperfections. You can dedicate your life to them, and they to yours. And after all of that admiration and love, you can still have lame sex because underneath all the high-level valuation and emotional interactions, you don't have that animal lust thing.
Primitive chemistry isn't something you can choose to have or not. It can't be faked. It's not PSE or GFE. It's something else. And reviews don't help with that.
Sir LanceLicksalot
03-09-18, 00:21
I am happy for you for your success, but what relevance does your success bring to a website where men share info so that their brethren can attain sexual satisfaction?
This is my problem with all of the reviews about UTR women who don't want to see others.
We all would be better served if you sent you review to Penthouse for their "Penthouse Letter Forum".
Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off!
Simp4ebony
03-09-18, 07:11
I am happy for you for your success, but what relevance does your success bring to a website where men share info so that their brethren can attain sexual satisfaction?
This is my problem with all of the reviews about UTR women who don't want to see others.
We all would be better served if you sent you review to Penthouse for their "Penthouse Letter Forum".That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".
DaytonSteve
03-09-18, 09:50
That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".It's nice to brag every once in a while. IlvblkGrls has provided tons of great information to the site, where else will you find like minded people to share a "win" with. It's not excessive or over the top so doesn't bother me a bit.
I get where you are coming from BT but I don't think it's a big deal when it's contributing members that do it. A guy with 3 posts? yeah I'd give that a thumbs down.
That's probably why I didn't post this in a review thread. I'm not sure why you are in the "Octagon" if you are trying to "attain sexual satisfaction. ".That's funny as hell, I think you told BTBear to quit being a Douchbag in the most polite manner. Maybe that's the point though, maybe he's in here trolling because he can't attain sexual satisfaction! Haha Time to lighten up, it's Friday after all.
Golfguy, playing through.
Ace Johnson
03-09-18, 19:10
"enjoying sex on a primitive level" is not "love". I think you are unclear about the broad distinction between those two concepts.
You can have primitive sexual chemistry with someone and not even like them. And You can care deeply for someone, admire them, think they are beautiful and perfect in their imperfections. You can dedicate your life to them, and they to yours. And after all of that admiration and love, you can still have lame sex because underneath all the high-level valuation and emotional interactions, you don't have that animal lust thing.
Primitive chemistry isn't something you can choose to have or not. It can't be faked. It's not PSE or GFE. It's something else. And reviews don't help with that.ProVid is right, on two levels. I'm giving him the edge about me not understanding the difference between primitive sex and love. I still don't 'get it', hell, I just want to have a good time and if I'm lucky a good memory of a session.
On your second point, you've hit the nail on the head. The ability of my wife to have passionate sex left following the birth of our 3rd kid over 25 years ago. Researching the issue, this is common and the desire usually returns in 12 to 18 months. In the case of my wife, it never returned. After 15+ years of frustration, I threw in the towel and looked into this hobby. I love my wife and can't imagine the rest of my life without her, but that part of our life is gone and no sign of it on the horizon. Maybe taking up this hobby is wrong, but no question it saved my marriage. I know this is silly drama that I've not talked about before, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Be safe and have fun, Ace.
OK, I'm not naming names here; this is advice for all you nubes.
Sending a PM to a senior asking more detail about one of our conquests is fine. Asking for advice is fine. I try to be a helpful monger.
But seriously, I've seen every one of your posts; (and yes it's pretty easy to see every post you made) and all you do is ask how about this girl, or that girl, or who is in Florence, or how can I see so and so if I have no reviews or references.
Dammit man Read the fucking forum. Or learn to use the search feature. See some ladies, and post some reviews (so providers can look you up).
Most of all, quit relying on others to do your homework. And no, I'm not answering that last PM. Figure it out.
ProVid is right, on two levels. I'm giving him the edge about me not understanding the difference between primitive sex and love. I still don't 'get it', hell, I just want to have a good time and if I'm lucky a good memory of a session.
On your second point, you've hit the nail on the head. The ability of my wife to have passionate sex left following the birth of our 3rd kid over 25 years ago. Researching the issue, this is common and the desire usually returns in 12 to 18 months. In the case of my wife, it never returned. After 15+ years of frustration, I threw in the towel and looked into this hobby. I love my wife and can't imagine the rest of my life without her, but that part of our life is gone and no sign of it on the horizon. Maybe taking up this hobby is wrong, but no question it saved my marriage. I know this is silly drama that I've not talked about before, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Be safe and have fun, Ace.Ace- same here, no kids but her desire went to zero in her mid 40's at menopause onset. Our relationship is clearly better now that I hobby (not really sure if she knows or not) - I realized for many years I was simply low level angry at her-"You are the reason I don't have a sex life". Now that that is not the case, I am happier and better to her- and to myself.
My $. 02 worth.
The good dr.
Smilesallround
03-11-18, 17:17
Ace- same here, no kids but her desire went to zero in her mid 40's at menopause onset. Our relationship is clearly better now that I hobby (not really sure if she knows or not) - I realized for many years I was simply low level angry at her-"You are the reason I don't have a sex life". Now that that is not the case, I am happier and better to her- and to myself.
My $. 02 worth.
The good dr.I don't even need to change a single word.
Smiles.
HuntLadys29
03-11-18, 18:06
OK, I'm not naming names here; this is advice for all you nubes.
Sending a PM to a senior asking more detail about one of our conquests is fine. Asking for advice is fine. I try to be a helpful monger.
But seriously, I've seen every one of your posts; (and yes it's pretty easy to see every post you made) and all you do is ask how about this girl, or that girl, or who is in Florence, or how can I see so and so if I have no reviews or references.
Dammit man Read the fucking forum. Or learn to use the search feature. See some ladies, and post some reviews (so providers can look you up).
Most of all, quit relying on others to do your homework. And no, I'm not answering that last PM. Figure it out.I just had a guy pm me asking all kinds of questions about a provider asked me if I had pictures or where she advertises and if she previously worked at any clubs, and if I was willing to share digits, with a read receipt. First I had no pictures and if I did I wouldn't send them to him, the provider is and was on a few sites he knows her name and knows his way around a computer well enough to get on here and pm me how come he can't just find the info himself? As far as where she works or used to work why do I give a f##k about what she used to do for a living? And giving him a phone number he can find on his own I think not. I'm not going to call dude out by handle but I am going to say dude if you're reading this that's why I didn't help you. HL29.
ProVid is right, on two levels. I'm giving him the edge about me not understanding the difference between primitive sex and love. I still don't 'get it', hell, I just want to have a good time and if I'm lucky a good memory of a session.
On your second point, you've hit the nail on the head. The ability of my wife to have passionate sex left following the birth of our 3rd kid over 25 years ago. Researching the issue, this is common and the desire usually returns in 12 to 18 months. In the case of my wife, it never returned. After 15+ years of frustration, I threw in the towel and looked into this hobby. I love my wife and can't imagine the rest of my life without her, but that part of our life is gone and no sign of it on the horizon. Maybe taking up this hobby is wrong, but no question it saved my marriage. I know this is silly drama that I've not talked about before, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Be safe and have fun, Ace.It sounds like you 'get it' better than you think. It took me two years to take the dive. Lust and love, life is better with both. Thanks for your thoughtful post.
My personal experience has been whether married or with a g / f the sex falls off, and in my case drastically. Even as a young man with a constant boner. As the cliche goes, for every beautiful woman there's a man (or woman) bored with her pussy.
I've been single essentially since 98 so the hobby for me is a convenient way to avoid being bitched at and quite honestly, I can be a jerk at times and I hate it when I go there. I had a g / f for a short while in the early 90's and we went to club 440 to spice things up. For you married gents who are lucky enough to wake up to a woman who loves you, you might want to think about gently bringing this up. Great people, a lot of fun, and it might rekindle the passion! And if not, well you both can get laid and see some fun sights!
Just a thought, I know unrealistic for some but might work for some. JJ.
If I troll a post like this does it fall under the useless drama category or the good old fun category? Not here to piss off A2! "Has any one seen her. She answered my message she is 39 and pretty. She's past Amelia. Very quick responce from Her. Her rates for FS are good. She is also a bareback provider. She's Outcall only. I'm going to visit her soon. Any info and one I can share her digits. ".
UOnlyLiveOnce
03-12-18, 05:43
My personal experience has been whether married or with a g / f the sex falls off, and in my case drastically. Even as a young man with a constant boner. As the cliche goes, for every beautiful woman there's a man (or woman) bored with her pussy.
I know what you mean. I'm married. She started to unilaterally change the rules once we had kids and the house in the 'burbs. That crap messed with my head for a while. But one day, I realized I no longer cared. Was kind of easy to not care since I was getting it on in the hobby with young women half my age or less. I would have thought she'd have called me out by now on the lack of action at home, but nope. If she hasn't questioned me by now, she's probably not going to so long as I remain discreet.
FMichaels4533
03-12-18, 07:57
I know what you mean. I'm married. She started to unilaterally change the rules once we had kids and the house in the 'burbs. That crap messed with my head for a while. But one day, I realized I no longer cared. Was kind of easy to not care since I was getting it on in the hobby with young women half my age or less. I would have thought she'd have called me out by now on the lack of action at home, but nope. If she hasn't questioned me by now, she's probably not going to so long as I remain discreet.That could be my story. My wife started to loose interest in her late forties. She turned of the tap because she didn't want to get pregnant and didn't want to use birth control. I figured I could hold out until after she went through the change. That plan worked not at all. After the change she just lost all interest in intimacy. I found this site and have been able to take care of my needs and she is perfectly happy with our platonic relationship. I really believe that the hobby has saved my marriage. Very strange but true. I didn't sign up to lead the life of a monk, so now I have a great relationship, kind of friends without benefits. I just outsource that part of my life.
John HandCock
03-12-18, 09:44
That could be my story. My wife started to loose interest in her late forties. She turned of the tap because she didn't want to get pregnant and didn't want to use birth control. I figured I could hold out until after she went through the change. That plan worked not at all. After the change she just lost all interest in intimacy. I found this site and have been able to take care of my needs and she is perfectly happy with our platonic relationship. I really believe that the hobby has saved my marriage. Very strange but true. I didn't sign up to lead the life of a monk, so now I have a great relationship, kind of friends without benefits. I just outsource that part of my life.The hobby only saves a marriage if the wife knows and agrees to it. If she doesn't know and would divorce you if this knowledge came to light then that's not saving anything. Most guys just don't want to pay the price to be free.
DaytonSteve
03-12-18, 10:12
Single, attractive women have been giving men Blowjobs, endless sex, and the occasional backdoor to make them fall in love and marry them. As we all know The Blowjobs are the first to stop, we may still get a half hearted blowie or a pump or two into that sweet butt on our birthdays but even those fall off. It's not long before "hurry up" "make it quick" and "are you done yet" is replaced by complete lack of any kind of sexual activity. It's no wonder the "Oldest Profession" has been around for so long, one thing is certain if the wife won't give it up, plenty of others will.
Ace Johnson
03-12-18, 11:29
When I submitted my post, I had second thoughts. This has been a fun and light hearted forum. When no one posted anything for a couple of days I really regretted it, thinking I was a 'killjoy' or mood killer. It's nice to know I'm not the only fisherman in the boat.
Sidney Biddle Barrows, aka the Mayflower Madam, was the owner of one of the most successful escort agencies ever (you should take the time to learn about her if you're not familiar). On an interview on William Shatners' talk show, she looked Capt. Kirk in the eye and said, "These men love their wives and families and don't want to leave them, but there are some things that they're not getting at home and don't want to spend their lives without. And the smart ones seek out the services of escorts, as girlfriends tend to blow up their lives and escorts know the deal". Ms. Barrows also pretty much invented GFE, encouraging her escorts to provide 'GFE' service saying these men just want to be loved. Dennis Hof, brothel owner, said on a talk show that if wives would take care of their husbands, you would immediately put me out of business.
Okay, enough of this shit. Let's get back to having a good time! Be safe and have fun, Ace.
Gunman2013
03-13-18, 14:18
Yesterday and today I have reached out to at least 6 different girls both days only to get no response or a garbled text back and then nothing. I really like the ones that say in there ads don't waste my time text when you are ready to come. LOL.
SinsinnatiToy
03-13-18, 14:28
Yesterday and today I have reached out to at least 6 different girls both days only to get no response or a garbled text back and then nothing. I really like the ones that say in there ads don't waste my time text when you are ready to come. LOL.Very simply it is too many guys and not enough girls. Supply and demand. When I got into this, it was the other way, but not any more. Plus when I got into this less than half the girls had a habit, now most do. Which means if they have money they are enjoying a high instead of making money,
ST.
I'm just having a bad day in the hobby. After no luck with LaceyFoxx I contacted Hannah. She responded quickly and we set a time. She then requested a face photo, which I sent, but she went completely dark after that. Now I know I'm not a great looking guy but I didn't think I was that ugly. Oh well, on to the next attempt.So now your photo belongs to a hooker. On her phone no less. Why would anyone send a photo to someone they don't know who makes their living fucking strangers for, cash? What is she loses that phone? What if uncle LEO gets a hold of it? God gave us a brain for a reason, you should use it.
Golfguy, playing through.
HuntLadys29
03-13-18, 20:21
So now your photo belongs to a hooker. On her phone no less. Why would anyone send a photo to someone they don't know who makes their living fucking strangers for, cash? What is she loses that phone? What if uncle LEO gets a hold of it? God gave us a brain for a reason, you should use it.
Golfguy, playing through.I wouldn't send a photo of myself to a hooker just because either she wants my money or not, if you're a true hooker you're going for the money and what I look like shouldn't matter. I do know that Hannah won't see AA men he doesn't mention if he is AA or not. But Golfguy Uncle LEO having her phone with his picture means and is nothing. Unless they are involved with a felony or something crazy is just another picture. He said he got stood up so if you could explain what Uncle LEO would do with his picture I'd sure like to know. Sometimes I think people believe the police have nothing to do but run down some photo in a hookers phone, now if something grave happened to her that's one thing, but just a photo because they caught her hooking and he wasn't there sorry just another photo. HL29.
I wouldn't send a photo of myself to a hooker just because either she wants my money or not, if you're a true hooker you're going for the money and what I look like shouldn't matter. I do know that Hannah won't see AA men he doesn't mention if he is AA or not. But Golfguy Uncle LEO having her phone with his picture means and is nothing. Unless they are involved with a felony or something crazy is just another picture. He said he got stood up so if you could explain what Uncle LEO would do with his picture I'd sure like to know. Sometimes I think people believe the police have nothing to do but run down some photo in a hookers phone, now if something grave happened to her that's one thing, but just a photo because they caught her hooking and he wasn't there sorry just another photo. HL29.If they bust her and find 20 guys photos connected with numbers it would be easy for them to identify him as a known John in any other stings they may run. Especially with all the cameras everywhere (like hotels that have prostitute problems) and with facial recognition technologies well, pretty much anything can happen. I'd they seize her phone they could find you and question you which certainly wouldn't be a pleasant experience, especially if you were married.
Golfguy.
I wouldn't send a photo of myself to a hooker just because either she wants my money or not, if you're a true hooker you're going for the money and what I look like shouldn't matter. I do know that Hannah won't see AA men he doesn't mention if he is AA or not. But Golfguy Uncle LEO having her phone with his picture means and is nothing. Unless they are involved with a felony or something crazy is just another picture. He said he got stood up so if you could explain what Uncle LEO would do with his picture I'd sure like to know. Sometimes I think people believe the police have nothing to do but run down some photo in a hookers phone, now if something grave happened to her that's one thing, but just a photo because they caught her hooking and he wasn't there sorry just another photo. HL29.
If they bust her and find 20 guys photos connected with numbers it would be easy for them to identify him as a known John in any other stings they may run. Especially with all the cameras everywhere (like hotels that have prostitute problems) and with facial recognition technologies well, pretty much anything can happen. I'd they seize her phone they could find you and question you which certainly wouldn't be a pleasant experience, especially if you were married.
Golfguy.I don't care how hot any hooker is, if you send her a picture before you meet her for the first time, you're just a dumbass. Just sayin'.
I'm on a trip to Europe. Jesus guys, we are so underserved in the USA! Hot pussy everywhere over here, and legal. Set the shit up on WhatsApp and off you go. Didn't ask for my picture either. LOL.
Oh well, back to reality soon, but I'm officially spoiled rotten.
HuntLadys29
03-13-18, 22:01
If they bust her and find 20 guys photos connected with numbers it would be easy for them to identify him as a known John in any other stings they may run. Especially with all the cameras everywhere (like hotels that have prostitute problems) and with facial recognition technologies well, pretty much anything can happen. I'd they seize her phone they could find you and question you which certainly wouldn't be a pleasant experience, especially if you were married.
Golfguy.Sounds totally ridiculous to me. You're talking facial recognition technology to find someone over a misdemeanor that may or may not have happened. I get the police are thirsty but not like that. Facial recognition finding someone that probably has no record putting all that effort to find a suspect or 20 suspects so they can question them in front of their wife S / O co worker friend whatever for as I said a 4th degree misdemeanor is ludicrous. Sorry Golfguy you have no wind here. Let's just say sending your photo to a hooker isn't a good idea for maybe blackmail purposes but the police confiscating her phone using facial recognition then hunting you down for as I said a 4th degree misdemeanor isn't going to happen. HL29.
FortunateSon1
03-13-18, 22:19
I wouldn't send a photo of myself to a hooker just because either she wants my money or not, if you're a true hooker you're going for the money and what I look like shouldn't matter. I do know that Hannah won't see AA men he doesn't mention if he is AA or not. But Golfguy Uncle LEO having her phone with his picture means and is nothing. Unless they are involved with a felony or something crazy is just another picture. He said he got stood up so if you could explain what Uncle LEO would do with his picture I'd sure like to know. Sometimes I think people believe the police have nothing to do but run down some photo in a hookers phone, now if something grave happened to her that's one thing, but just a photo because they caught her hooking and he wasn't there sorry just another photo. HL29.I agree with HL. They either want to work or not. Most of us are involved in this for the simplicity and ease of getting what we want. If I felt like going through the judgement of trying to get someone into the sack, I'd be at the bar trying to pick someone up to take home.
Sounds to risky for anyone to do that. If uncle was, is or will be part of this now there is a picture of you! And to add to all this she or they are posting fake reviews on here. I would like to see A2 to delete the add to keep the stupid ones safe.
Sending a picture to a hooker is stupid. If you did it before this ok, little head thinking, I get it. If you do it now I thinking you're crazy.
A2.
Resipsaloquito
03-14-18, 09:22
The problem with sending a photo isn't with LEO, it's that your photo and number can now be posted on one of these scam sexual predator sites with the heading "pays money for sex" and they'll want a big chunk of change (say 2 k), which she gets a chunk of to take it down.
The internet is filled with people who look similar to you. Type in 'Selfie'. Just saying.
The internet is filled with people who look similar to you. Type in 'Selfie'. Just saying.I did that, typed "Selfie", and it seems Google thinks I look like Kim Kardashian.
If LEO is using FR, clearly my next step is to send photos of that asshole that lives across the street from me to as many providers as possible.That's the funniest thing I've read in weeks!
LL.
I did that, typed "Selfie", and it seems Google thinks I look like Kim Kardashian.LOL maybe I should have been more specific.
HuntLadys29
03-16-18, 05:20
This is one of my pet peeves. I just got a pm from some guy who has zero post reads my post on a provider and thinks I'm going to share information with him. I pm him back and let him know that I wasn't sharing information with him and why. I guess when he lurks on the forum he believes a pm will get him any information he wants and he doesn't have to do any work on his own. This guy pm me saying she sounds amazing is she clean what are her rates how do I get in touch with her. Dude man up don't be scared the forum is a wealth of knowledge the seniors and contributing regular members post in the right section and don't leave pertinent information out of their post. These guys don't realize just because we've been active in this hobby for a while we aren't nervous about a new meet we just do our due diligence. Sorry guys I had to get that off my chest. HL29.
This is one of my pet peeves. I just got a pm from some guy who has zero post reads my post on a provider and thinks I'm going to share information with him. I pm him back and let him know that I wasn't sharing information with him and why. I guess when he lurks on the forum he believes a pm will get him any information he wants and he doesn't have to do any work on his own. This guy pm me saying she sounds amazing is she clean what are her rates how do I get in touch with her. Dude man up don't be scared the forum is a wealth of knowledge the seniors and contributing regular members post in the right section and don't leave pertinent information out of their post. These guys don't realize just because we've been active in this hobby for a while we aren't nervous about a new meet we just do our due diligence. Sorry guys I had to get that off my chest. HL29.I just don't reply anymore. Delete so it doesn't eat up my inbox count and move on. I've never had one try again, and it's easy to ignore list.
This is one of my pet peeves. I just got a pm from some guy who has zero post reads my post on a provider and thinks I'm going to share information with him. I pm him back and let him know that I wasn't sharing information with him and why. I guess when he lurks on the forum he believes a pm will get him any information he wants and he doesn't have to do any work on his own. This guy pm me saying she sounds amazing is she clean what are her rates how do I get in touch with her. Dude man up don't be scared the forum is a wealth of knowledge the seniors and contributing regular members post in the right section and don't leave pertinent information out of their post. These guys don't realize just because we've been active in this hobby for a while we aren't nervous about a new meet we just do our due diligence. Sorry guys I had to get that off my chest. HL29.Can't believe the nerve of somebody to PM you then, expect you to take time out of your busy ass schedule and respond. You got get that harassment off your chest. You just keep going Big Daddy and spend all your spare time posting about your exploits. You don't have time to respond.
The rest of us will just bow down in awe of you.
At least he has the balls to use his real account when he does shit like this and not some sock puppet.
A2
INTravelingMan
03-16-18, 10:55
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Say this one more time and I'm banning you. I don't care if it's on a fight thread.
Cops do not send PM's to anonymous internet people. They don't do it because they would be spending all day doing shit for information they cannot use.
You guys that think you're Tony Montana make me chuckle
A2
LurkinGround
03-16-18, 18:02
Can't believe the nerve of somebody to PM you then, expect you to take time out of your busy ass schedule and respond. You got get that harassment off your chest. You just keep going Big Daddy and spend all your spare time posting about your exploits. You don't have time to respond.
The rest of us will just bow down in awe of you.
At least he has the balls to use his real account when he does shit like this and not some sock puppet.
A2This is by far my favorite forum as the responses of A2 are too fucking funny!
ThatGuy011
03-17-18, 01:16
Can't believe the nerve of somebody to PM you then, expect you to take time out of your busy ass schedule and respond. You got get that harassment off your chest. You just keep going Big Daddy and spend all your spare time posting about your exploits. You don't have time to respond.
The rest of us will just bow down in awe of you.
Beggars can't be choosers.
After posting about an AMP experience, with all the demands made of info, with very little received in return, I agree with HL FULLY. I mean I figured out where to go by reading posts. If I could, so could all those bastards. I'm treating info like a *****, you give me mine upfront, or don't bother.
Guys, probably no one will care, especially since I don't have contact information to share, but I just had to tell someone!
There's this girl who I've been texting who doesn't advertise escort services, but for some reason I felt like I could strike a deal with her. It took a long time, but I finally convinced her I was safe, and I sealed the deal! So I was her first escort customer! Yay for me! LOL.
She doesn't want me bringing any of that kind of attention to her, but I'm still pretty pleased with myself for pulling it off!And ignore the other guy about the Penthouse letters thing. We'd all be better served if he wasn't such a fucking shill.
I saw her over a month ago at her worn down incall location (don't know how that place is still open). She looked so bad I walked out. She looks nothing like her pics. I would say she's in her late 40's to early 50's. That's how bad she looked. Anyone who's posted positive reviews about this provider (and I've read a few glowing ones), you're doing other hobbyists a disservice.
BFDeal.Who made you King on the Board! That's quite an accusation against other members regarding their posted Reviews based on your approval. The way I had always viewed other members reports was it is their personal experience and observations. They don't write to please other people's expectations.
I get you didn't like her. No big deal to me. Looks are a big deal to you, okay. Not white knighting but no she is not in her late 40's or in the 50's. Probably was having a bad day, it happens. I've seen providers one day great and same girl looking kind of down another time. It's completely your right to leave. No big fucking deal to me.
What's not right is saying members have this responsibility for the other members. No, you're responsible for your own choices and decisions on who you go to see. If certain physical qualities are important to you, it's up to you to ask the providers what you're looking for and want to see. Before the internet, I would call escort numbers from the newspapers and ask them directly what they looked like.
I never had a problem with members sending me a PM with further questions about a provider I had posted a review about. I answer all PMs. I don't have an attitude about someone inquiring.
Since this is about looks, a couple of months ago I went to see a girl that has Ads on a daily basis in the classified here on USA. There were all these raving reviews about her. When I saw her she didn't look like her pictures which was okay but she was cute. I was a gentleman to her and treated her respectfully. Her service was so bad I decided not to post a Review because of the white Knights on the Board. No, I not going to name her. But I didn't get on the board here and complain about it like it's other people's fault. Nor would I at accuse anyone of being deceptive.
My Review on the provider in question I stand completely behind it 100% and all Reviews I've written. I went to see her based on a review from StickIt64. He said he had a good time and so did I.
I'm not about to change my reports because you didn't like what you met one day. It's no big fucking deal.
Harpo2 u.
This bill's intent is to shut down all US hosted escort advertising sites. Luckily they won't be able to close down this site!
https://cdt.org/blog/its-all-downsides-hybrid-fosta-sesta-hinders-law-enforcement-hurts-victims-and-speakers/
Does anyone know of a couple / few somewhat "low volume" providers in there early 20's preferably that are close to Cincinnati or North?
LOL or is everyone in this site high volume.
Would really appreciate some suggestions.
Homonger, clear out your inbox. Then pm me again.
Homonger, clear out your inbox. Then pm me again.It's cleared. I PM'ed you. Sorry about that.
Clock watching should refer to us clients when we arrive. How long we sit in our cars and stare at the clock when a provider tells us just 5 more minutes LOL.
I realize that drama isn't supposed to be posted but this IS the Octagon. I get a message from this guy telling me I should be posting before I start calling girls out. I'm a relative newbie here, been scolded for white knighting and learned my lesson and steadily learning my ropes of the forum. Now Jack here seems to have a lazy streak because I have reviewed 2 of the 3 ladies I've had dreams of on this site. I would have reviewed all 3 but I really felt bad for #3 and there were enough negative reviews about her, that I read before visiting, that it was flogging a dead horse. It was obvious she is struggling to get by and I'm not one to pour salt in the wound, or put my name out there as someone who does such a thing. SO, he calls me out with no f'ing link to what statement I made that offended him so much that he would waste his time PM'ing me what a horrible monger I am. WTF? SO, this is a THANK YOU to the majority of you out there who don't feel the need to be keyboard warrior and call me out for petty shit. Great board, mostly great people, I'll keep posting when it's relevant. And to the small minority out there with sticks up your ass.
Craigslist personals is shut down by the government, ********.com also shut down.
Stop being such a drama queen, we aren't going anywhere
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds
Just saying,
A2
Clock watching should refer to us clients when we arrive. How long we sit in our cars and stare at the clock when a provider tells us just 5 more minutes LOL.They should just say the number that goes in front of the 5. As in 15,25, 35 because it's NEVER just 5 minutes.
Golfguy, playing through.
Clock watching should refer to us clients when we arrive. How long we sit in our cars and stare at the clock when a provider tells us just 5 more minutes LOL.If a provider tells me 5 more minutes, then I am direct and state fine or ok, but I'm leaving in 300 seconds or I'm going around the block maybe I will be back in 300 seconds. Usually they get the point I'm not dictated by their rules or being unprepared, they need to be ready when they say ready, etc.
MisforMaster
03-24-18, 13:56
If a provider tells me 5 more minutes, then I am direct and state fine or ok, but I'm leaving in 300 seconds or I'm going around the block maybe I will be back in 300 seconds. Usually they get the point I'm not dictated by their rules or being unprepared, they need to be ready when they say ready, etc.My favorite are the outcalls. I generally avoid incalls after one too many horrible incalls (the thing that did it for me is as I went to put my clothes on, my hand was dangerously close to what my provider called an 'insulin' needle. On a high priced sugar baby / GFE / escort / whateverthefuck). There are exceptions to this rule -- if it's a provider that I've seen before and I trust -- but, for the most part, I try to keep the fuck away from incalls. Anyway.
Let's set up an outcall at 11.
At 11:30 I'll text, "Hey, where are you at, just checking on you. ".
Usually the response is, "Just getting on the highway," or, "Just leaving the house," or, "Haven't left the house yet. ".
Look, I get it -- I'm a busy guy. If anyone understands that schedules change, things happen, or things don't always go as planned, it's me. However, communicate with me. Telling me that you're going to be 90 minutes late 15 minutes before the appointment is going to go over a lot better than me stewing for 60 minutes about you being late.
CrissyLynn2015
03-27-18, 11:15
They should just say the number that goes in front of the 5. As in 15,25, 35 because it's NEVER just 5 minutes.
Golfguy, playing through.I juat don't understamd the clock watching man? Ill NEVER understand it. I mean as a provider and a respwcted one at that, I DO NOT and will NOT watch the clock. Thats NO fun at all. I mean I am aware of time, TRUST me I am BUT I refuse to say. Ooo sorry babe you have 1 min and 22 seconds left smh WTF? Thats no fun AT ALL LOL. Just my 2 cents, been a while since I've talked my little sh*t on boards LOL. Hope all have been great and has had tons of fun xoxo.
I juat don't understamd the clock watching man? Ill NEVER understand it. I mean as a provider and a respwcted one at that, I DO NOT and will NOT watch the clock. Thats NO fun at all. I mean I am aware of time, TRUST me I am BUT I refuse to say. Ooo sorry babe you have 1 min and 22 seconds left smh WTF? Thats no fun AT ALL LOL. Just my 2 cents, been a while since I've talked my little sh*t on boards LOL. Hope all have been great and has had tons of fun xoxo.You missed the joke. You aren't a clock watcher and are always ready for the customer at the agreed upon time. Top notch provider.
LoveThyTitties
03-27-18, 13:19
I juat don't understamd the clock watching man? Ill NEVER understand it. I mean as a provider and a respwcted one at that, I DO NOT and will NOT watch the clock. Thats NO fun at all. I mean I am aware of time, TRUST me I am BUT I refuse to say. Ooo sorry babe you have 1 min and 22 seconds left smh WTF? Thats no fun AT ALL LOL. Just my 2 cents, been a while since I've talked my little sh*t on boards LOL. Hope all have been great and has had tons of fun xoxo.Hmmm. Stretch that hr into all day!
I juat don't understamd the clock watching man? Ill NEVER understand it. I mean as a provider and a respwcted one at that, I DO NOT and will NOT watch the clock. Thats NO fun at all. I mean I am aware of time, TRUST me I am BUT I refuse to say. Ooo sorry babe you have 1 min and 22 seconds left smh WTF? Thats no fun AT ALL LOL. Just my 2 cents, been a while since I've talked my little sh*t on boards LOL. Hope all have been great and has had tons of fun xoxo.I whole heartedly agree with you Chrissy. I was with a provider last week for a hhr session and the whole time she kept eyeing the clock on her nightstand. Needless to say it wasn't an enjoyable hhr. I wasn't able to get off. Total waste of money.
NotYourAverage
03-27-18, 20:43
I whole heartedly agree with you Chrissy. I was with a provider last week for a hhr session and the whole time she kept eyeing the clock on her nightstand. Needless to say it wasn't an enjoyable hhr. I wasn't able to get off. Total waste of money.You should have jacked off and shot a load all over her clock!
Hate clock watchers! Only thing worse is getting shorted on time.
Simp4ebony
03-28-18, 06:50
I juat don't understamd the clock watching man? Ill NEVER understand it. I mean as a provider and a respwcted one at that, I DO NOT and will NOT watch the clock. Thats NO fun at all. I mean I am aware of time, TRUST me I am BUT I refuse to say. Ooo sorry babe you have 1 min and 22 seconds left smh WTF? Thats no fun AT ALL LOL. Just my 2 cents, been a while since I've talked my little sh*t on boards LOL. Hope all have been great and has had tons of fun xoxo.When I don't watch the clock, the 30 minutes I paid for will be over in 15 minutes, because I come to fast and have no concept of time.
DaytonSteve
03-28-18, 09:26
When I don't watch the clock, the 30 minutes I paid for will be over in 15 minutes, because I come to fast and have no concept of time.I call the being efficient. I'm in the arrangement for me so I'm not going to spend an hour or two trying to give a girl 5 orgasms so she'll see me again like I would attempt with a civilian. I have 2 modes get done in 5 minutes or hold off and probably not be able to finish at all. So my best bet is get in and get done and get the hell out of there.
HuntLadys29
03-28-18, 09:36
When I don't watch the clock, the 30 minutes I paid for will be over in 15 minutes, because I come to fast and have no concept of time.That's why I do qv 20 minutes is all I'm good for. HL29.
Simp4ebony
03-28-18, 19:06
That's why I do qv 20 minutes is all I'm good for. HL29.Yeah, but I like to kiss, and touch, and take my time. The clock just helps me pace myself.
Yeah, but I like to kiss, and touch, and take my time. The clock just helps me pace myself.I enjoy the female form and usually give the lady a massage with coconut oil that leads to her orally finding me.
Kissing and doing the deed since I'm an old buck takes a lot of time especially covered.
I love a nice pussy slide as well.
It's all good.
I'm heading your way this week. Who is the best high end provider in Cincy with an incall?Hannah by far. But theres the pic thing. And she's picky but if shell see you. She is pretty great. Ignore hateful comments. Try for yourself. Won't be dissappointed.
Hannahluv95
03-29-18, 22:05
I've been seeing ms. Hannah for a few weeks now. Each visit gets better and better! She has the best looking body on her and couldn't be prettier😊 . She takes care of me like no other! Man I tell you what, she really knows how to fuck and please a man. If you haven't already seen her, I don't know what your waiting for. I recommend her too anyone!! She doesn't watch the clock, or visits always ends up going over the time but she says its ok because she wants me to leave satisfied and happy. And boy do I every time I go to see her😊128522;128522;. She does require a face pic Behr agree will invite you over. When I first went to see ms. Hannah, I was so nervous because I thought someone else (like a bf, or another person) was in her house. I got there and she told me I can look around to make sure it was just her and I so I did. Come to find out she died live alone. I would refer her to any of you men! She's small petite and on top of it all she's a redhead and loves to be fucked!
Hannah if you write another self review like this I'm going to edit it so that it says you rob people and give them crabs. See if I'm joking
A2
PS, anybody who gives a hooker they don't know a real face pic is insane.
Just sayingHey guys its Hannah. I know he will delete this asap but hopefully enough will get to read it. So this admin2 on here is bulling me. He thinks I am self reviewing and I promise I am not. Hes probably fat and pissed I'm so picky LOL. Whatever the reason he has threatened to edit my posts to say I have aids! And now has publicly threatened to state that I rob people and have crabs! All because he insists I'm self reviewing and I am certainly not. Just wanted to call him out publicly. Lets see if he is man enough to respond or if he just deletes this. We shall see.
Anyone want proof text me and I will send screenshots of his harassment.
I've been seeing ms. Hannah for a few weeks now. Each visit gets better and better! She has the best looking body on her and couldn't be prettier😊 . She takes care of me like no other! Man I tell you what, she really knows how to fuck and please a man. If you haven't already seen her, I don't know what your waiting for. I recommend her too anyone!! She doesn't watch the clock, or visits always ends up going over the time but she says its ok because she wants me to leave satisfied and happy. And boy do I every time I go to see her😊128522;128522;. She does require a face pic Behr agree will invite you over. When I first went to see ms. Hannah, I was so nervous because I thought someone else (like a bf, or another person) was in her house. I got there and she told me I can look around to make sure it was just her and I so I did. Come to find out she died live alone. I would refer her to any of you men! She's small petite and on top of it all she's a redhead and loves to be fucked!
Hannah if you write another self review like this I'm going to edit it so that it says you rob people and give them crabs. See if I'm joking
A2
PS, anybody who gives a hooker they don't know a real face pic is insane.
Just sayingReally? Your threatening a provider publicly? At least guys will know now all the hate on Hannah is from guys like you. Only guys she will turn down have a problem with her, but you a site admin threatening to edit her posts to say she robs people and has AIDS? Your a disgrace. Like these girls arent dealing with enough. Please. Everyone comment. I am curious to know other opinions on this keyboard warrior.
So, judging from the comments she seems like not the best provider. She's pretty much no go for black guys, fat guys, or kissers. Haven't spent any time with her, but I did definitely see her streetwalking on the uph stroll for those interested. My posts aren't showing up for some reason, so apologies if this is a repost.She doesn't even live on that side of town. I doubt you saw her in price hill she lives east. You guys have a lot of hate for really a sweet girl. So she's different in her approach but that's her right. She doesn't have to see just anyone. Hell if it were me I'd try to only get attractive guys too. There is too much ass out there. Leave the poor thing alone.
She used one of her sock accounts MrJay42 to report this post.
I wouldn't believe a single positive review about her unless the person writing it was a long time senior with over two hundred posts and an unbroken history of posting.
A2That is a whole lot of delusional.
https://alligator.com.cincinnati.escortbabylon.com/post/26403842/
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/repealstop-fosta-now
She's hot as fuck, but yeah the place is a dump and her mouth is a battlefield of sores. Not being mean, just being honest.Just saw her. Mouth looks fine. A battlefield of sores it is not. Dunno. Maybe they healed?
Just saw her. Mouth looks fine. A battlefield of sores it is not. Dunno. Maybe they healed?
Really? Your threatening a provider publicly? At least guys will know now all the hate on Hannah is from guys like you. Only guys she will turn down have a problem with her, but you a site admin threatening to edit her posts to say she robs people and has AIDS? Your a disgrace. Like these girls arent dealing with enough. Please. Everyone comment. I am curious to know other opinions on this keyboard warrior.
Hey guys its Hannah. I know he will delete this asap but hopefully enough will get to read it. So this admin2 on here is bulling me. He thinks I am self reviewing and I promise I am not. Hes probably fat and pissed I'm so picky LOL. Whatever the reason he has threatened to edit my posts to say I have aids! And now has publicly threatened to state that I rob people and have crabs! All because he insists I'm self reviewing and I am certainly not. Just wanted to call him out publicly. Lets see if he is man enough to respond or if he just deletes this. We shall see.
Anyone want proof text me and I will send screenshots of his harassment.
Hannah by far. But theres the pic thing. And she's picky but if shell see you. She is pretty great. Ignore hateful comments. Try for yourself. Won't be dissappointed.And even though both of these along with Michael45 posted from exactly the same IP address 74.215. XXX . XXX (I redacted the last two groups of numbers) which is registered to Cincinnati Bell Telephone you have never made a sock account.
I moved all this stuff to the stupid shit thread because man it is some stupid shit.
I'm not a professional but I think you might need help, maybe you are delusional and really don't know all these people are you.
A2.
PS, please, as she says, comment
This is literally me waiting to see this response.
And even though both of these along with Michael45 posted from exactly the same IP address 74.215. XXX . XXX (I redacted the last two groups of numbers) which is registered to Cincinnati Bell Telephone you have never made a sock account.
I moved all this stuff to the stupid shit thread because man it is some stupid shit.
I'm not a professional but I think you might need help, maybe you are delusional and really don't know all these people are you.
A2.
PS, please, as she says commentThere is no way she is tracking this thread down if she doesn't understand the concept of an IP address. Probably staring at her phone wondering when her posts are going to show up in the other thread. Wow. Just wow. What a dumbass.
Glad I laughed in her face when she asked for a face pic.
AlphaDiesel
03-30-18, 02:57
And even though both of these along with Michael45 posted from exactly the same IP address 74.215. XXX . XXX (I redacted the last two groups of numbers) which is registered to Cincinnati Bell Telephone you have never made a sock account.
I moved all this stuff to the stupid shit thread because man it is some stupid shit.
I'm not a professional but I think you might need help, maybe you are delusional and really don't know all these people are you.
A2.
PS, please, as she says commentLOL. This *****. You may wear multiple faces for your clients but an IP address is basically your internet social security number. So you can cry a river about bullying but you got outed. You fake reviewed yourself. You know it, we know it, move on.
DaytonSteve
03-30-18, 03:56
This girl is a straight up bunny boiler. Just what we all need more of in our lives, Drama.
HuntLadys29
03-30-18, 06:02
Hey guys its Hannah. I know he will delete this asap but hopefully enough will get to read it. So this admin2 on here is bulling me. He thinks I am self reviewing and I promise I am not. Hes probably fat and pissed I'm so picky LOL. Whatever the reason he has threatened to edit my posts to say I have aids! And now has publicly threatened to state that I rob people and have crabs! All because he insists I'm self reviewing and I am certainly not. Just wanted to call him out publicly. Lets see if he is man enough to respond or if he just deletes this. We shall see.
Anyone want proof text me and I will send screenshots of his harassment.I don't think he's bullying you self reviews on here have never been allowed do that bull shit on Escort Babylon where the girls do it all the time. You might say you're not but you come off as racist and judgemental, how you think you're better than people is beyond me you are an average looking pale red head who has her vagina plastered all over the internet what makes you think you're better than those you look down on. Remember if you have kids one day they along with the other members of your family will be able to find your vagina shots on the internet along with your racial and judgmental statements and they will see you for what you are a racist hooker who thinks she's better than people. Then see how it feels to be judged. HL29.
UOnlyLiveOnce
03-30-18, 06:10
This girl is a straight up bunny boiler. Just what we all need more of in our lives, Drama.I wouldn't call her a bunny boiler, but it seems safe to say she wouldn't be in this predicament if not for the pic requirement. I have not seen her because I am not willing to send pics. I'm guessing a lot of other guys here haven't seen her for the same reason, or they did send pics and some failed to meet her requirements. As a result, there are not that many guys who can vouch for her relative to how long she's been around. If there were no pic requirement, she would have a ton of good reviews (if she rated them) by now and this string of posts wouldn't be happening.
Sir LanceLicksalot
03-30-18, 07:43
IP addresses don't lie.
If Hannah and Michael45 aren't the same person, Michael45 must be her husband, BF, Handler or Pimp.
I give Admin2 some credit for not having simply banned both members. That is what other sites do.
By letting this drama play out publicly Hannah and her non-Senior WKs posting fake reviews and blasting Admin2 just makes her less attractive to potential customers. When she stops getting calls you just might see her walking WPH.
And even though both of these along with Michael45 posted from exactly the same IP address 74.215. XXX . XXX (I redacted the last two groups of numbers) which is registered to Cincinnati Bell Telephone you have never made a sock account.
I moved all this stuff to the stupid shit thread because man it is some stupid shit.
I'm not a professional but I think you might need help, maybe you are delusional and really don't know all these people are you.
A2.
PS, please, as she says, comment
TennVols77
03-30-18, 09:10
IP addresses don't lie.
If Hannah and Michael45 aren't the same person, Michael45 must be her husband, BF, Handler or Pimp.
I give Admin2 some credit for not having simply banned both members. That is what other sites do.
By letting this drama play out publicly Hannah and her non-Senior WKs posting fake reviews and blasting Admin2 just makes her less attractive to potential customers. When she stops getting calls you just might see her walking WPH.I don't know if she understands who A2 is. You can try and bs all you want, but, you are right sir, IP's don't lie.
Vinnie Kramer
03-30-18, 09:31
Not to mention if she gets this bat-shit crazy about this topic, imagine what she does with your pic when you piss her off!
IP addresses don't lie.
If Hannah and Michael45 aren't the same person, Michael45 must be her husband, BF, Handler or Pimp.
I give Admin2 some credit for not having simply banned both members. That is what other sites do.
By letting this drama play out publicly Hannah and her non-Senior WKs posting fake reviews and blasting Admin2 just makes her less attractive to potential customers. When she stops getting calls you just might see her walking WPH.
IP addresses don't lie.You can spoof an IP to be different when it's coming from the same person but when it's the same for two people who are claiming to be different that are posting within minutes of each other then either.
1. Somebody is catfishing.
2. I can't think of anything else to put as number two so I guess all I got is somebody is catfishing.
A2.
IP addresses don't lie.
If Hannah and Michael45 aren't the same person, Michael45 must be her husband, BF, Handler or Pimp.
I give Admin2 some credit for not having simply banned both members. That is what other sites do.
By letting this drama play out publicly Hannah and her non-Senior WKs posting fake reviews and blasting Admin2 just makes her less attractive to potential customers. When she stops getting calls you just might see her walking WPH.
I don't know if she understands who A2 is. You can try and bs all you want, but, you are right sir, IP's don't lie.Not to get nitpicky, but IP addresses aren't the end-all-be-all for determining duplicate accounts. The time frame they show up means something, but most admins wouldn't just accept that as absolute proof. There's plenty of other options, like user-agent or referrer strings etc. Heck, even browser fingerprinting these days if you use the same browser with the same extensions, blah blah.
I do believe I saw something from A2 on another forum telling the users they ran someone off before he could build up some data on them. So it's more than IP address.
Not to get nitpicky, but IP addresses aren't the end-all-be-all for determining duplicate accounts. The time frame they show up means something, but most admins wouldn't just accept that as absolute proof. There's plenty of other options, like user-agent or referrer strings etc. Heck, even browser fingerprinting these days if you use the same browser with the same extensions, blah blah.
I do believe I saw something from A2 on another forum telling the users they ran someone off before he could build up some data on them. So it's more than IP address.IP's are to confirm not discover as evidenced by the posts below. If you read the posts below they all read as if they were written by the same person. The theme is the same, the manic pacing the same, the tone is the same, they are obviously written by the same person AND when they are all posted from the same IP in the space of two hours AND the person has a history of catfishing AND when they did the same thing with the reported posts (multiple users reporting or referencing the same posts from the same IP within short periods of time) THEN I am perfectly happy saying in my opinion they are coming from the same person. People can hide all kinds of stuff but what's really hard to change is what they are saying and how they say. It's the content that leads me to serial antagonists and you can't mask that because if the massage changes and I don't need to be involved then it's just one less thing and I could give a shit who they "used to be" in the forum.
Like IP addresses browser fingerprinting is less reliable in the negative than the positive. I have 5 different browsers on my laptop and three on my phone (testing) so if the browser fingerprint doesn't match that doesn't mean it's not the same person but when it does, then it does.
Really? Your threatening a provider publicly? At least guys will know now all the hate on Hannah is from guys like you. Only guys she will turn down have a problem with her, but you a site admin threatening to edit her posts to say she robs people and has AIDS? Your a disgrace. Like these girls arent dealing with enough. Please. Everyone comment. I am curious to know other opinions on this keyboard warrior.
Hannah by far. But theres the pic thing. And she's picky but if shell see you. She is pretty great. Ignore hateful comments. Try for yourself. Won't be dissappointed.
Hey guys its Hannah. I know he will delete this asap but hopefully enough will get to read it. So this admin2 on here is bulling me. He thinks I am self reviewing and I promise I am not. Hes probably fat and pissed I'm so picky LOL. Whatever the reason he has threatened to edit my posts to say I have aids! And now has publicly threatened to state that I rob people and have crabs! All because he insists I'm self reviewing and I am certainly not. Just wanted to call him out publicly. Lets see if he is man enough to respond or if he just deletes this. We shall see.
Anyone want proof text me and I will send screenshots of his harassment.
SinsinnatiToy
03-30-18, 23:10
IP's are to confirm not discover as evidenced by the posts below. If you read the posts below they all read as if they were written by the same person. The theme is the same, the manic pacing the same, the tone is the same, they are obviously written by the same person AND when they are all posted from the same IP in the space of two hours AND the person has a history of catfishing AND when they did the same thing with the reported posts (multiple users reporting or referencing the same posts from the same IP within short periods of time) THEN I am perfectly happy saying in my opinion they are coming from the same person. People can hide all kinds of stuff but what's really hard to change is what they are saying and how they say. It's the content that leads me to serial antagonists and you can't mask that because if the massage changes and I don't need to be involved then it's just one less thing and I could give a shit who they "used to be" in the forum.
Like IP addresses browser fingerprinting is less reliable in the negative than the positive. I have 5 different browsers on my laptop and three on my phone (testing) so if the browser fingerprint doesn't match that doesn't mean it's not the same person but when it does, then it does.If I was on the jury then I would vote guilty as charged that she is fake posting and it is up to each monger to make their own minds up and make their own decisions concerning her. Personally her need for pictures to verify would be a deal killer anyway, this just takes it to another level.
ST.
UOnlyLiveOnce
04-01-18, 11:25
This is in response to posts in another thread about whether providers are on drugs. I have not seen the two particular providers referenced in recent posts in the USA thread, so I can't speak to that. I don't think 100% of providers in general are using hard drugs. But I think most are. With streetwalkers, the percentage is probably 99%. I don't think the number is as high with escorts, but I think it's a high percentage.
In the 7 years I've been in the hobby this time around, I've seen maybe a couple who were just genuine freaks. Once in a great while, I suspect fast cash is the main motivation, for reasons other than drugs. Providers fitting that description don't normally stay around long.
In other cases, and probably in more cases than I suspect, the main motivation is a boyfriend. The fact is, chicks dig bad boys, and the list of what chicks will tolerate from them and do for their benefit is almost endless. If you pair a troubled chick with a bad boy who has a lot of charisma or is just a serious badass, it's not a stretch to think that a subset of these chicks can be persuaded to drop their panties for strange men at the Red Roof Inn while he sponges off her earnings to pay his latest court fines and chases other women on the side.
But in the end, most escorts are in it mainly due to drugs. My guesstimate is 85%.
MisforMaster
04-01-18, 12:49
But in the end, most escorts are in it mainly due to drugs. My guesstimate is 85%.I've been doing this for 5 years now (and fuck, that's really. Scary to say).
I think I've met three providers who were not doing it for the drugs, and I've probably hit the 100 provider count in the US this year. One was doing it because she had a shopping addiction and a shit-ton of court costs / fines to pay off, one was doing it because her boyfriend was pushing her to do it, and the last one did it just because she liked to fuck and knew she could get paid for it.
On the Sugarbaby side, I know at least 80% of the girls that I have had an arrangement with that was more than just a pump-and-dump have openly talked about some type of substance abuse problem; in Miami, it was cocaine -- in the two years I was down in Miami I only met a single woman who wasn't on cocaine and she was, by far, the most boring sugar baby of them all. Sweet as hell, great heart, but, I'm not trying to get married (but, she was).
MisforMaster
04-01-18, 12:54
You can spoof an IP to be different when it's coming from the same person but when it's the same for two people who are claiming to be different that are posting within minutes of each other then either.
1. Somebody is catfishing.
2. I can't think of anything else to put as number two so I guess all I got is somebody is catfishing.
A2.It's quite possibly it's two different people, living in the same house, behind a wireless access point. But, if that's the case, that still doesn't make the situation any better: it's review manipulation / fraud.
Bring out the Clorox. Bleach it clean.
Ferrari1977
04-02-18, 18:32
I didn't know where to put this so here it is. I was seeing Nisha for 1 to 2 times a week for 2 months straight when I texted her and nothing, crickets. 2 weeks later she says she is fine just can't hangout for awhile. It has been since end of February since I've heard from her. I'm just checking to make sure that everything is cool with her. If anyone has any info on her please PM me. Thanks.
Simp4ebony
04-03-18, 05:48
Has anyone ever Googled their mongering phone number before? Thalia recently showed me her phone app. It includes reviews of phone numbers. Sometime last year, a girl posted that I get angry if the rates are too high. It's weird to see that because I have had girls get mad at me when I've said they are too expensive, but I've never gotten angry about a rate. (Maybe disappointed, but not angry! LOL.).
Anyway, it makes me wonder if *some* of the crickets I've received are because girls saw that "review" of my number.
Vinnie Kramer
04-03-18, 10:23
Funny enough, I was on a provider website the other day and not only did she have numbers she has blacklisted but names too!
I googled a few and some came back with matches and company related websites! Scary.
Has anyone ever Googled their mongering phone number before? Thalia recently showed me her phone app. It includes reviews of phone numbers. Sometime last year, a girl posted that I get angry if the rates are too high. It's weird to see that because I have had girls get mad at me when I've said they are too expensive, but I've never gotten angry about a rate. (Maybe disappointed, but not angry! LOL.).
Anyway, it makes me wonder if *some* of the crickets I've received are because girls saw that "review" of my number.
Addiction69
04-03-18, 13:32
Really? Your threatening a provider publicly? At least guys will know now all the hate on Hannah is from guys like you. Only guys she will turn down have a problem with her, but you a site admin threatening to edit her posts to say she robs people and has AIDS? Your a disgrace. Like these girls arent dealing with enough. Please. Everyone comment. I am curious to know other opinions on this keyboard warrior.No, well good. This has been interesting reading all the posts. I have taken a break from the hobby for a bit to pursue the other kind of pay for play sex. The kind that expect dates and flowers and shit. For the record, I saw that Hannah claims A2 threatened to say she has aids and he did not. And the most comical part to me was reading that review that Hannah wrote for herself. I am curious who she turns down to see her considering her "review" was written to sound like some country yokel, I pictured a 45-55 year old sweaty fat ass typing on a commodore 64 computer in his parents barn "converted into his bachelor apartment".
Also for the record, I don't buy girls flowers and don't take them to expensive restaurants until I have sex with them multiple times, so that way I'm not paying up front. I can say though that one of the benefits of the traditional pay for play, is when you are done, you don't have to deal with the endless phone texting messages and hate mail when you don't respond to these women that fall in love with you.
I didn't know where to put this so here it is. I was seeing Nisha for 1 to 2 times a week for 2 months straight when I texted her and nothing, crickets. 2 weeks later she says she is fine just can't hangout for awhile. It has been since end of February since I've heard from her. I'm just checking to make sure that everything is cool with her. If anyone has any info on her please PM me. Thanks.I would like to reunite wit her.
Can't a person try and sign in without getting a template that drop down on a regular basis for SECRET BENEFITS? That is a royal pain in the ass If they want regular advertisement how about buying a banner that people click on without the BS template dropping down almost everytime a person tries to log in. Just saying, buy a banner and stop this CH*T.
Can't a person try and sign in without getting a template that drop down on a regular basis for SECRET BENEFITS? That is a royal pain in the ass If they want regular advertisement how about buying a banner that people click on without the BS template dropping down almost everytime a person tries to log in. Just saying, buy a banner and stop this CH*T.I'm guessing the pop up ad is a big money maker for the hosting site. It's on just about every escort's personal site as well as EE's. Must be worth it to the site owners to help them pay the bills. I just have my other thumb ready to close it whenever I know it's coming.
LL.
Simp4ebony
04-03-18, 21:05
Funny enough, I was on a provider website the other day and not only did she have numbers she has blacklisted but names too!
I googled a few and some came back with matches and company related websites! Scary.What's THAT website??
DaytonSteve
04-03-18, 21:53
Looks like EB took all the US stuff down. All my saved links go to Toronto and you can't change it back to the US.
Has anyone ever Googled their mongering phone number before? Thalia recently showed me her phone app. It includes reviews of phone numbers. Sometime last year, a girl posted that I get angry if the rates are too high. It's weird to see that because I have had girls get mad at me when I've said they are too expensive, but I've never gotten angry about a rate. (Maybe disappointed, but not angry! LOL.).
Anyway, it makes me wonder if *some* of the crickets I've received are because girls saw that "review" of my number.And which phone app was that?
Simp4ebony
04-04-18, 06:27
And which phone app was that?I don't remember what it was called.
Vinnie Kramer
04-04-18, 09:26
She was an out of town BP girl and I didn't save the site. I wasn't looking for a date, just bored at work one day trolling the web.
If you're concerned, just google your phone number and see what comes back. If you go 3 pages deep in results with nothing I'd say you're fine.
What's THAT website??
EightyThree
04-04-18, 10:37
Looks like EB took all the US stuff down. All my saved links go to Toronto and you can't change it back to the US.I just looked at the Cincinnati page. It is still there.
I just looked at the Cincinnati page. It is still there.I'm only able to get the Toronto page. I've typed in Cincinnati but nothing comes up.
MuffDiverDan
04-04-18, 11:16
Looks like EB took all the US stuff down. All my saved links go to Toronto and you can't change it back to the US.That's where mine goes to Toronto maybe someone could put up a link??
Vinnie Kramer
04-04-18, 11:27
I googled eb. Toronto 40 up was first result. I clicked. Changed city to Cincinnati and it worked fine. Changed city to Columbus and Cleveland too with no issue.
That's where mine goes to Toronto maybe someone could put up a link??
MuffDiverDan
04-04-18, 12:10
I googled eb. Toronto 40 up was first result. I clicked. Changed city to Cincinnati and it worked fine. Changed city to Columbus and Cleveland too with no issue.Could you post the link for Cincinnati please?
Vinnie Kramer
04-04-18, 13:21
https://yolo.com.cincinnati.listcrawler.com/
Could you post the link for Cincinnati please?
https://yolo.com.cincinnati.listcrawler.com/That site takes you to Toronto.
Vinnie Kramer
04-04-18, 13:42
It takes me to Cincy. And, like I said earlier, I was also able to change city to Cleveland and Columbus.
That site takes you to Toronto.
Vinnie Kramer
04-04-18, 13:50
https://40up.com.columbus.listcrawler.com/
It takes me to Cincy. And, like I said earlier, I was also able to change city to Cleveland and Columbus.
DaytonSteve
04-04-18, 15:16
Weird, I can still only get Toronto.
Vinnie Kramer
04-04-18, 16:16
Is there no option to change city or it won't give USA as an option?
Weird, I can still only get Toronto.
MuffDiverDan
04-04-18, 17:05
Is there no option to change city or it won't give USA as an option?It's still fucked up.
Cincy Dude
04-04-18, 17:13
Try this.
https://escortbabylon.net/#cincinnati.
Try this.
https://escortbabylon.net/#cincinnati.That doesn't work either. WTF.
That doesn't work either. WTF.If you are on mobile, download ad block browser if using a pc, download ad block chrome extension. That should fix your issue.
Simp4ebony
04-04-18, 21:38
If you are on mobile, download ad block browser if using a pc, download ad block chrome extension. That should fix your issue.I just got a Chrome warning that the site was insecure and could be compromising passwords.
Sir LanceLicksalot
04-04-18, 23:14
Put in the simple www.escortbabylon.net.
Then go to "United States" and select "Cincinnati " and up pops current ads and reviews.
That doesn't work either. WTF.
Mpduration
04-05-18, 02:00
Put in the simple www.escortbabylon.net.
Then go to "United States" and select "Cincinnati " and up pops current ads and reviews.I added the chrome extensions and still can't get it to work. I can only access it via smart phone.
HuntLadys29
04-05-18, 05:42
I added the chrome extensions and still can't get it to work. I can only access it via smart phone.Funny it works on my I phone but not on my iPad. HL29.
Funny it works on my I phone but not on my iPad. HL29.I've tried every suggestion that has been posted without any luck. All I ever get is the Toronto listings. Can't get any USA cities.
MisforMaster
04-05-18, 10:26
Has anyone ever Googled their mongering phone number before? Thalia recently showed me her phone app. It includes reviews of phone numbers. Sometime last year, a girl posted that I get angry if the rates are too high. It's weird to see that because I have had girls get mad at me when I've said they are too expensive, but I've never gotten angry about a rate. (Maybe disappointed, but not angry! LOL.).
Anyway, it makes me wonder if *some* of the crickets I've received are because girls saw that "review" of my number.I have a dual-sim burner phone. And even that phone has two extra GV numbers on it. I don't want to say that I rotate my numbers around. But, I totally rotate my numbers around. I have a stock of Cricket / MetroPCS SIM cards that have been activated under "fake" names and paid with cash (or prepaid visa cards paid with cash), so that when the time is right, I just pull the SIM cards and rotate.
When they stop responding, it's because I've asked them something, directly, in their ad, that they either don't want to talk about, or, that they don't do. (More often than not, it's when it's the incall vs outcall discussion happens).
MM.
This is just a little of the thread about this UTR chick. It looks like you guys go batshit when they don't return a text. I mean, is it any wonder why they run off or stop posting? Calm down guys. It's just pussy.
Actually she did make the comment to me that she has been getting overwhelmed. She really did make that comment.
I sent Nikki a text this afternoon and she replied in minutes. She is visiting family and said she should come back to us tomorrow, if I understood the cryptic texting shorthand acronyms LOL. I told her all you animals were looking for her. Give her another day to get home and I'm sure you will find her eager to see you. But, if she really does what she says she does and only sees one date a day, you may have to wait a bit longer. I just might grab up that first spot in line.
RG.
I tried more than once. Like 3-4 times. I think she has more than enough guys to stay busy. Maybe when she slows down again she may return calls or texts. I think she just doesn't need new numbers, it happens. PB.
Thanks. Guess I just have to try harder.
I've had no problem reaching her. Keep trying.
I texted with her mid afternoon Monday. Haven't tried her since but I'll reach out and see what's up.
Nklpkl.
I have tried getting in touch with her as well but have yet to hear back from her.
I have a dual-sim burner phone. And even that phone has two extra GV numbers on it. I don't want to say that I rotate my numbers around. But, I totally rotate my numbers around. I have a stock of Cricket / MetroPCS SIM cards that have been activated under "fake" names and paid with cash (or prepaid visa cards paid with cash), so that when the time is right, I just pull the SIM cards and rotate.
When they stop responding, it's because I've asked them something, directly, in their ad, that they either don't want to talk about, or, that they don't do. (More often than not, it's when it's the incall vs outcall discussion happens).
MM.They have a dozen or more other strangers asking for their time at any given hour of the day / night. So if you take too long or your response requires more attention or effort, they will just ghost. If you remind them of a guy who was harder to deal with (took too long, negotiated, old, young, annoying, cheap, etc) then they can just ignore you and explore other options. And there are always other options.
These girls get so many interested texts / calls, even from a single ad. No reviews. Bad reviews. Doesn't matter. There are ALWAYS more guys willing to give even fat ugly old nasty drug addicts money.
The only way a guy on this board can be ignorant of this is if he CHOOSES to ignore the obvious conclusions. Which some guys seem happy to do.
ThatGuy011
04-06-18, 02:20
This is just a little of the thread about this UTR chick. It looks like you guys go batshit when they don't return a text. I mean, is it any wonder why they run off or stop posting? Calm down guys. It's just pussy.Are you surprised? When I posted my first AMP adventure these people were frothing at the mouth like zombies and couldn't let me log back in before making ridiculous posts. They also probably bombarded her all at once when they got the info, effectively making it that much harder for them to see her.
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