Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[LadyShay69]

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Before you write me and say you didn't, yes, you did. You can't tell guys what they can or cannot post on any thread on this forum. I allow chicks to fight back on a fight thread but you don't ever get to tell them what they should or shouldn't post in the slightest bit.

A2

[BoxsterS]

Thank you for letting me rent space in your brain but enough is enough. This is suppose to be a form for informational purposes to help fellow providers and mongers to connect for some adult fun and learn a little about the person. I believe you have done that and gave your opinion about me and you know what they say about that honey. I'm not hurt or offended about anything you said at all. I can take constructive criticism but you're beyond criticism now or even a critique of my incall and I will take the opportunity to try to make changes to make the therapy experience better but now you are overboard.

That's okay that you don't like me or you think I'm not the best looking woman in the world or the very least on this site but guess what people have a different opinions and taste than you. You didn't like me thank you and grow up to just keep going on and on about your opinion is like a child crying about his candy he didn't get.

Okay you didn't approve of me you came over and turned around and walked away. I had 2 other mongers do the same thing one gave me compensation for my time for getting ready and the other gave me some insight on how to make some changes to help me to learn on how to be a little better about my incall. In both cases that was helpful and respectful but you are being a troll and rude. Now what's the next move on your part. It's obvious I wasn't good for you but apparently I'm good for other people. Your post are getting redundant and quite repetitive. I thought you were a seasoned monger. Don't forget you wanted to take me to a hotel and I REFUSED to go with you because you frighten me and I wanted to stay safe but I had a change of heart because I knew this was going to happen.

IMO. It seems to me you got into this lifestyle just to complain and try to belittle a woman just because you want to feel better about yourself.

BTW Heather513 and I are two different people it's obvious that you need glass because you can't tell the difference between two people or you're too beetle headed to even understand that people can look alike but we don't look alike.

Good luck on your wave search because whoever you find is going to need luck with you.

Kisses,

LadyShay69.Like you said, I came over and walked away. I said this isn't going to work and got in my car. . I left, you called me. I made no offer of any other arrangements to spend a second of time with you.

[RogerOver]

Tried to answer your PM but your box is full. Here's the answer to the question though:


How do you take a post from one thread and move it to the rant section like you did? I've looked at what options are there and confused. I have tried cut and paste and it doesn't carry over for me. Thanks in advance for your reply.I generally follow these steps:

1. click "Reply With Quote " to the message that I want to move.

2. copy all of the text and close the tab / window.

3. open the fight thread.

4. click "Add Report" and paste in the text, add my reply and post the message.

[Twisted69]

Tried to answer your PM but your box is full. Here's the answer to the question though:

I generally follow these steps:

1. click "reply" to the message that I want to move.

2. copy all of the text and cancel or close the tab / window.

3. open the fight thread.

4. click "Add Report" and paste in the text add my reply and post the message.I just got the notice my inbox was full. It is clear now. Doh! I hate when that happens!

[Scarab31]

This venue is a tool I use in search of the perfect wave. Does it exist? Probably not however, my search continues. When I catch the perfect wave I don't want to immediately load by board back on the Woody and ride off. I will want to lay on the beach and savor the moment.

In this struggle, called "life" some like me, don't have that much time to invest in the perfect wave search. We aren't looking for "a" wave, looking for "the"wave. I don't go surfing at Stonelick Lake. Waste of time Dude. Now that's just my preception. I didn't unload my board and test the water could tell it was a waste of time by looking at it. Don't go there a waste of time.

Ladyshay69 is down right ugly. She is not weathered or worn out she is ugly. Don't go there. I didn't unload the board. It's about time Dude. The most precious commodity. I can make more money but, I can't make more time. Surfers don't like wasting time. We live life on the edge, riding in the curl, hanging ten.

You go surfing? If so, be honest about the water.Surfing?, that's not living on the edge. Racing and rubbing elbows at 180 mph on motorcycles on a closed roadrace course across the country. Now that's living life on the edge. .

[Strip Junkie]

Surfing?, that's not living on the edge. Racing and rubbing elbows at 180 mph on motorcycles on a closed roadrace course across the country. Now that's living life on the edge. .If you are worried about living on the edge, join the Marines, Infantry. If you are going to live life on the edge, you might as well make it count for something.

[Scarab31]

If you are worried about living on the edge, join the Marines, Infantry. If you are going to live life on the edge, you might as well make it count for something.Will they let middle age men in? If so, sign me up.

[RogerOver]

Will they let middle age men in? If so, sign me up.If you're under 28. Air farce is way open. 39 is the cutoff.

[Cassie1992]

I do crack myself up.

I personally think that the only sure fire way to be safe is with a condom coupled with birth control on both sides, and maybe throw on a morning after just to be sure (LMAOO GREAT FUCKING TIMES, you know who you are!) . And even that doesn't work sometimes.

Face it, this is a hobby that involves all different kind of risks. Some people are super cautious, and others are just sloppier then 2007 Lindsay Lohan. Hehe.

I personally take accountability for when I fuck up, or something unexpected happens, and I don't push it off on the other person.

Yes, it takes two to tango, but in this I know that I have the bigger vote.

Ex: I get preggo, I'm going to keep the baby. If I assume that the father would like to know, I'd say something, but otherwise the child is of my making and therefore my responsibility.

Not knocking anybody who doesn't share the same mindset, those are just personal beliefs I hold myself to.

[Cassie1992]

It is TRULY amazing the shit you can put up with when you have a crappy sense of humor.

Or would it be dark sense of humor.

With the incapability to NOT note the very large, (and probably now extinct) Elephant that is irony?

Anyway. I'm debating on if I want to get back on my ADHD medication, but before I do that (and blow all of your minds with awesomeness).

Give me tips on organization and time management.

[CrissyLynn2015]

It is TRULY amazing the shit you can put up with when you have a crappy sense of humor.

Or would it be dark sense of humor.

With the incapability to NOT note the very large, (and probably now extinct) Elephant that is irony?

Anyway. I'm debating on if I want to get back on my ADHD medication, but before I do that (and blow all of your minds with awesomeness).

Give me tips on organization and time management.I've heard mostly nothing but good things about you girl BUT I will say this and I'm sorry for being so blunt. A lot of the mongers discuss how your motel is a revolving door, that you see MANY men daily with no screening. Slow down little momma and pace urself. I only see one MAYBE 2 a day if a bills due but I don't just let any tom dixk or harry come over. I'm not trying to offend you in no way at all and I really hope I didn't. I just figured since your asking, and I'm a very well respected reviewed provider of USA. You might want my 2 cents but then again maybe not LOL. Be safe and have a wonderful holiday xoxo.

[ReconDoc1]

Had a dream with sugar and VR, I came in my dream very strong I didn't expect any lesss, they are my ATF.

[TheGardener1]

I've heard mostly nothing but good things about you girl BUT I will say this and I'm sorry for being so blunt. A lot of the mongers discuss how your motel is a revolving door, that you see MANY men daily with no screening. Slow down little momma and pace urself. I only see one MAYBE 2 a day if a bills due but I don't just let any tom dixk or harry come over. I'm not trying to offend you in no way at all and I really hope I didn't. I just figured since your asking, and I'm a very well respected reviewed provider of USA. You might want my 2 cents but then again maybe not LOL. Be safe and have a wonderful holiday xoxo.Listen to this woman.

[Cassie1992]

I've heard mostly nothing but good things about you girl BUT I will say this and I'm sorry for being so blunt. A lot of the mongers discuss how your motel is a revolving door, that you see MANY men daily with no screening. Slow down little momma and pace urself. I only see one MAYBE 2 a day if a bills due but I don't just let any tom dixk or harry come over. I'm not trying to offend you in no way at all and I really hope I didn't. I just figured since your asking, and I'm a very well respected reviewed provider of USA. You might want my 2 cents but then again maybe not LOL. Be safe and have a wonderful holiday xoxo.I appricate the concern I do have that little part of me that wants to point out that while it was a revolving door.

They still showed up. But that is the part of me that takes a second to handle criticism hahaha.

It is ironic though. Promiscuity and not being judged about sexual choices is literally what this hobby is about.

And yet we still judge. I'm not saying that to be a smart ass, I honestly just love finding funny paradoxes in life.

Anyway, to be fair I was doing a shit ton of drugs for a little while, so I had to take a step back and reevaluate.

I'm going UTR once I can find my favorites.

I have a real job now anyway so my time is going to be a lot less free.

I do want to talk to you about something though, PM when you get a chance.

[CrissyLynn2015]

Listen to this woman.LOL, Why thank you dear! Always puts a smile on my face seeing your handle pop up! You got to come check out The new place! Have a good holiday babe XoXo!

&& Cassie, once again. I wasn't saying that to be rude and if it came off that way, I do apologize. I'm not like that. ! Women should stick together and was just trying to help out!

[Cassie1992]

Because I'm noticing that it is taking.

Literally,

5000000000 years for any of my posts to go through on this new account.

I don't like it.

I'm way to talkative and easily distracted to wait like this.

Let me help you with that GPS issue.

Don't mention it.

A2

[CrissyLynn2015]

Because I'm noticing that it is taking.

Literally,

5000000000 years for any of my posts to go through on this new account.

I don't like it.

I'm way to talkative and easily distracted to wait like this.

Let me help you with that GPS issue.

Don't mention it.

A2I tried to write you Cassie but you only have limited access I guess? It says your banned next to your name. Idk what that means but you may have pissed off A2. Trust that's something you don't want to do. A lot of us have our opinions on him but he runs this shit LOL so got to be nice to bossmann or he will fuxk you up. I promise LOL (insider with A2) LOL. So if you can PM me! And yes your right this is our job and this is what we do. But some females do things one way and others do it their way. I don't care personally what anyone does LOL I have my own issue if you can write me tho and we will chat xoxo.

[Admin2]

Idk what that means but you may have pissed off A2. Trust that's something you don't want to do.Not only beautiful but smart as well. That GPS shit pisses me off and tolerating it ruins the hobby.

A2.

[CrissyLynn2015]

Not only beautiful but smart as well. That GPS shit pisses me off and tolerating it ruins the hobby.

A2.I don't even know what that GPS shit is anyways. Glad I don't know actually haha. Have a great holiday babe! Xo. Ooo and thanks you made me blush LOL.

[WanderingAbout]

GPS = Golden Pussy Syndrome = Female with a high sense of self worth and entitlement which surpasses reality.


I don't even know what that GPS shit is anyways. Glad I don't know actually haha. Have a great holiday babe! Xo. Ooo and thanks you made me blush LOL.

[CrissyLynn2015]

GPS = Golden Pussy Syndrome = Female with a high sense of self worth and entitlement which surpasses reality.I would have never guessed that INA million years lmmfao! Glad I don't know actually! Happy Holiday! XoXo.

[Fdx17]

Looks like your adopted city has been keeping you (unnecessarily) busy. I have noticed a lot of blue lately.

Anytime I see a bad report with a new member I wonder who has created a new account for just the occasion. They want to complain but do not want the lady or others to know who they are. You do a good job of sorting this stuff out.

Anyway I know it is not Thanksgiving there but you certainly are aware it is here. Hopefully you found a little Chica to be thankful for over the Holiday.

Now go have fun. You have earned it.

Thanks for the site and Happy Holidays.

Fdx17.

[Karmennky]

I don't understand why females post fake reviews bashing another provider and then go along praising there self thinking that it's going to get them some type of attention! It's not if anything it will hurt your own business. Nobody can trust or wants to deal with a liar or someone that has to belittle another provider to make there self look better. It gives you no points and if you have to post fake reviews about yourself and others to promote your business you are not a good provider, and alot of have brought it to my attention and thank the same. I would like to thank you though because you have made them even more interested. Rant over!

[Dangus2017]

I appricate the concern I do have that little part of me that wants to point out that while it was a revolving door.

They still showed up. But that is the part of me that takes a second to handle criticism hahaha.

It is ironic though. Promiscuity and not being judged about sexual choices is literally what this hobby is about.

And yet we still judge. I'm not saying that to be a smart ass, I honestly just love finding funny paradoxes in life.

Anyway, to be fair I was doing a shit ton of drugs for a little while, so I had to take a step back and reevaluate.

I'm going UTR once I can find my favorites.

I have a real job now anyway so my time is going to be a lot less free.

I do want to talk to you about something though, PM when you get a chance.Addressed to CrissyLynn2015: I have to second Cassie's sentiment. The point of the the hobby is to de-stigmatize have many sexual partner, Cassie and I have had long discussions about this, and have come to the conclusion that pathology is all that counting the number of sexual encounters leads too. Though, I see your comment as being made in good faith, I still detect a hint of American Puritanism. So long as you use protection, I do not see too much of a danger, even with low screening, as much sexual misconduct actually comes from people with are supposed to trust. Just my opinion my friend, please don't take it as an attack, nor some opening salvo to some "provider-theory" (insert laughing emoji) debate, though, admittedly, that could be fun and help, if all parties can maintain a iota of composure.

[BengalMan]

Saw some nice reviews so I had to see for myself.

Pleased to report Kellie is absolutely delightful. Communication was quick and accommodating. Set up meet within hour. Been to old building with a few roommates down by river before. Think it was to see normajean. Never saw any roommates and Kellie was so tidy, thoughtful, and respectful when I arrived. She is very intelligent; we had conversation about journalism; and she is definitely high class.

Totally GFE. Skills are excellent. Not a clock watcher. Oh, did I mention she is gorgeous? Body is tight and toned. Works out. Calf muscles stunning in heels. 👠. Eyes and face are model quality. One of the most elite ladies in the area. Will repeat.

(Some fool with no posts has attempted to post ripoffs about her that are completely not true. There was never one and she is far too classy to do that. Very safe incall too.).

[BgDoc3]

A lady once told me if a wife would give a husband what providers do the providers would be out of business. Also said if a man is going to meet her needs she must meet his because we know what they want and why they are on here. If that is the case then why comes temptation but for man to meet it. BB is everything from acceptable to the scourge of the service industry. If a man chooses his provider well, provides her with respect and anonymity, is discrete and respectful then should a lady not have the choice to do the same and provide him what he needs the way he needs it.

No guy wants a druggie alkie C and D, B and SW, or lady who does not keep appointments. Some men have medical issues that keep them from holding upright positions when the raincoat comes out, very embarrassing. Some women do not want to go BB due to fear of pregnancy definitely the younger ones who may love the feel but do not want the baby bump down the road. Men and women need to quit being judgemental and decide for themselves what they ike how they like it then find someone who they can hook up with and make it happen but CHOOSE WISELY on both sides of the isle.

PM's are the easiest way to set up BB liasons but do so privately and find someone who will meet your needs as you meet their need $$. Many ladies for the right incentives will meet those needs it is just being willing to trust the man and giving him what he need and probably she is getting what she likes also in the process. Have a good week all and enjoy the sun which is actually going to appear. The Doctor is in or would love to be.

[Admin2]

Saw some nice reviews so I had to see for myself.

Pleased to report Kellie is absolutely delightful. Communication was quick and accommodating. Set up meet within hour. Been to old building with a few roommates down by river before. Think it was to see normajean. Never saw any roommates and Kellie was so tidy, thoughtful, and respectful when I arrived. She is very intelligent; we had conversation about journalism; and she is definitely high class.

Totally GFE. Skills are excellent. Not a clock watcher. Oh, did I mention she is gorgeous? Body is tight and toned. Works out. Calf muscles stunning in heels. 👠. Eyes and face are model quality. One of the most elite ladies in the area. Will repeat.

(Some fool with no posts has attempted to post ripoffs about her that are completely not true. There was never one and she is far too classy to do that. Very safe incall too.).Sometimes, as if by magic when chicks make fake monger accounts what they write about themselves seems to change.

When they make TWO accounts and they are using those TWO accounts to quote and comment each other then when the magic happens it always seems to say something about stealing a wallet.

While I can't tell you for sure how it happened I can 100% tell you for fucking CERTAIN that it ONLY happens when chicks set up fake accounts to review themselves.

A2.

[John HandCock]

A lady once told me if a wife would give a husband what providers do the providers would be out of business. Also said if a man is going to meet her needs she must meet his because we know what they want and why they are on here. If that is the case then why comes temptation but for man to meet it. BB is everything from acceptable to the scourge of the service industry. If a man chooses his provider well, provides her with respect and anonymity, is discrete and respectful then should a lady not have the choice to do the same and provide him what he needs the way he needs it.

No guy wants a druggie alkie C and D, B and SW, or lady who does not keep appointments. Some men have medical issues that keep them from holding upright positions when the raincoat comes out, very embarrassing. Some women do not want to go BB due to fear of pregnancy definitely the younger ones who may love the feel but do not want the baby bump down the road. Men and women need to quit being judgemental and decide for themselves what they ike how they like it then find someone who they can hook up with and make it happen but CHOOSE WISELY on both sides of the isle.

PM's are the easiest way to set up BB liasons but do so privately and find someone who will meet your needs as you meet their need $$. Many ladies for the right incentives will meet those needs it is just being willing to trust the man and giving him what he need and probably she is getting what she likes also in the process. Have a good week all and enjoy the sun which is actually going to appear. The Doctor is in or would love to be.Doubt if I buy the if getting at home theory. Most men need variety, how many actually only see one provider? Even with getting everything required they are always looking to upgrade after a few times. As far as bb that's everyone choice but most usually comes with a premium price if wiing to pay for it. If your a bargain hunter then your choice quality goes down. Just my thoughts.

[CrissyLynn2015]

Addressed to CrissyLynn2015: I have to second Cassie's sentiment. The point of the the hobby is to de-stigmatize have many sexual partner, Cassie and I have had long discussions about this, and have come to the conclusion that pathology is all that counting the number of sexual encounters leads too. Though, I see your comment as being made in good faith, I still detect a hint of American Puritanism. So long as you use protection, I do not see too much of a danger, even with low screening, as much sexual misconduct actually comes from people with are supposed to trust. Just my opinion my friend, please don't take it as an attack, nor some opening salvo to some "provider-theory" (insert laughing emoji) debate, though, admittedly, that could be fun and help, if all parties can maintain a iota of composure.I am on the same level as both of you actually. I totally get the point of this hobby, I do! But some girls do chose to do things differently than others do. I don't look down upon, nor judge anyone CAUSE who the HELL am I do throw stones lmao. Cassie has literally had like No bad reviews that I have seen myself that's why I even spoke to her cause her rep is great on here. I've heard some mongers say things and other mongers say other things. Nothing BAD tho at all. Point of long paragraph is this. To each their own The whom point of this hobby is to have safe good fun with as little drama as possible occurring and I think she's held her end on that LOL. She's still kinda new too. I was like that when I first started as well. You have to be to be able to get to where I am and basically pick an choose who you will or will not see. It takes time for that comfort level to be there, yuh know what I mean? So basiccaly saying Cassie is awesome and if I had anything at all negative to say to her you can trust and believe I would day it LOL. I don't sugar coat shit for no one and that's not going to change anytime soon I think its awesome you made a good connection with her! That's awesome.

[CrissyLynn2015]

I don't understand why females post fake reviews bashing another provider and then go along praising there self thinking that it's going to get them some type of attention! It's not if anything it will hurt your own business. Nobody can trust or wants to deal with a liar or someone that has to belittle another provider to make there self look better. It gives you no points and if you have to post fake reviews about yourself and others to promote your business you are not a good provider, and alot of have brought it to my attention and thank the same. I would like to thank you though because you have made them even more interested. Rant over!There are a few women on here that pretty much always get a good if not great review, we all know who those few are LOL so when someone comes round with no posts or nothing and decides to bash another provider, I think has to be very stupid. Smh. I don't see how a woman in this hobby. With an active account on here would even have TIME to do all that bull shit but I believe ut s possible. Simmer down ladies, you will get good reviews too IF you do what your supposed to do. Its really that simple.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Doubt if I buy the if getting at home theory. Most men need variety, how many actually only see one provider? Even with getting everything required they are always looking to upgrade after a few times. As far as bb that's everyone choice but most usually comes with a premium price if wiing to pay for it. If your a bargain hunter then your choice quality goes down. Just my thoughts.There isn't always an Upcharge either.

Some women just get comfortable with their guy and it just happens. Doing a stripper slide and you just find yourself balls deep BB.

Or the heat of the moment and pop it happens. Years ago I was in a relationship with a provider and we always wrapped up until one night after the eruption she said "I think we forgot something. Oh well. ".

I just said, "Well, we just went down the yellow brick road to Oz, I guess we'll never return to Munchkin Land.

Her reply, "You're right. " then gave me a big DFK and we always stayed in Oz thereafter.

It wasn't our first time together either so that was a factor.

BBFS is VERY YMMV, much like Anal.

[Todd Cincy]

I used to be very active on here circa 2009 to 2010. I took a hiatus in 2012 while pursuing sugarbabies. My reason for doing so was that I couldn't find enough higher quality girls like Shelly 19 here. (Shelly was the Bomb, but she didn't stay around for long.).

From a transactional perspective, I like the idea of escorts vs sugar babies. While you can find some awesome girls on the sugar sites, the sugar baby scene takes a lot of time and effort. Hence my return here to check things out.

But: USAG doesn't seem to have changed much.

I don't meant to start a flame war. But it seems that the market here is still kind of low-end. A lot of the women mentioned in the posts seem older, heavier, and rougher. Even worse, a lot of the women who were here in 2010 are still here.

Maybe this is just a different market for a different level of taste. But tell me: Is there no one else here who wouldn't mind higher standards?

[Dangus2017]

I am on the same level as both of you actually. I totally get the point of this hobby, I do! But some girls do chose to do things differently than others do. I don't look down upon, nor judge anyone CAUSE who the HELL am I do throw stones lmao. Cassie has literally had like No bad reviews that I have seen myself that's why I even spoke to her cause her rep is great on here. I've heard some mongers say things and other mongers say other things. Nothing BAD tho at all. Point of long paragraph is this. To each their own The whom point of this hobby is to have safe good fun with as little drama as possible occurring and I think she's held her end on that LOL. She's still kinda new too. I was like that when I first started as well. You have to be to be able to get to where I am and basically pick an choose who you will or will not see. It takes time for that comfort level to be there, yuh know what I mean? So basiccaly saying Cassie is awesome and if I had anything at all negative to say to her you can trust and believe I would day it LOL. I don't sugar coat shit for no one and that's not going to change anytime soon I think its awesome you made a good connection with her! That's awesome.Just asking to excuse the typos haha.

[Fdx17]

Doubt if I buy the if getting at home theory. Most men need variety, how many actually only see one provider? Even with getting everything required they are always looking to upgrade after a few times. As far as bb that's everyone choice but most usually comes with a premium price if wiing to pay for it. If your a bargain hunter then your choice quality goes down. Just my thoughts.At least that is my assumption. I am sure there is a unicorn here and there in our midst but most will provide bb.

Even if they choose no with you does not mean they do not with others. These girls have lives that many times includes boyfriends and husbands. Don't kid yourself. Some of my best memories in this hobby was after (by accident) I come to know a providers husband. The three of us had some wild times. Trust me they do not require their significant other to use covers.

Frequently I arrive (just like on my last encounter) and am told, "I forgot to go to the store and do not have any covers". My reply is, "we are going to fuck right? That is why I came here". Her reply (which is common) well I guess it will be alright this time. You look clean.

I do not do bb. I paid attention in monger school. I have taken the advise of seniors and keep supplies with me.

To date I have never been told no when supplies "are not available". I am sure there are some who truly do not bb but they are few and far between.

I really do not care whether they do or not. However I think it is foolish for anyone to believe she never has natural encounters.

The provider I spoke of earlier had a saying I always thought was funny. She would tell her husband " it does't matter how many dicks I have during the day, yours will always be the last one I have at night.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.

[BgDoc3]

I think any lady who wants to go BB will if she is treated with respect and not as a piece of meat. I have been told however as has FDX that the lady is on here to give a man what he wants at the regular donation not an upcharge unless the guy asks for certain things she can not feel comfortable with doing. But her standard rate is the one she offers and if she wants to negotiate her business to do so and her choice. I love PSE no secret due to what covers do to my little guy and if I could ever find a lady who could make the little guy go up and ride for all we both are worth she would be my go to girl. JMO and no one elses. I do not put my business with a woman out in public not my way. But, like any normal healthy male regardless of age I love the warm wet feeling of a woman on my manhood and have a very talented tongue for my appreciation for that woman. Again it is about choosing your partners wisely and in a manner that will allow her to make a reasonable wage in the process and me to get as much of the lady over periods of time to make her want me to come back many times. Have had six guys PM me agreeing with my outlook on this and three who did not and that is okay on both sides. There is nothing that beats the feel of a woman on a man's business or the two of them finishing together with both encouraging the other to make it happen. Damn just call me a "romantic" LOL Saturday in Dayton can not come soon enough Just hoping for a "needy" woman to make it happen. Enjoy the week. The Doctor is out to lunch but the PM box works.

[John HandCock]

At least that is my assumption. I am sure there is a unicorn here and there in our midst but most will provide bb.

Even if they choose no with you does not mean they do not with others. These girls have lives that many times includes boyfriends and husbands. Don't kid yourself. Some of my best memories in this hobby was after (by accident) I come to know a providers husband. The three of us had some wild times. Trust me they do not require their significant other to use covers.

Frequently I arrive (just like on my last encounter) and am told, "I forgot to go to the store and do not have any covers". My reply is, "we are going to fuck right? That is why I came here". Her reply (which is common) well I guess it will be alright this time. You look clean.

I do not do bb. I paid attention in monger school. I have taken the advise of seniors and keep supplies with me.

To date I have never been told no when supplies "are not available". I am sure there are some who truly do not bb but they are few and far between.

I really do not care whether they do or not. However I think it is foolish for anyone to believe she never has natural encounters.

The provider I spoke of earlier had a saying I always thought was funny. She would tell her husband " it does't matter how many dicks I have during the day, yours will always be the last one I have at night.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.I thought the discussion was monger / provider and bb. Yeah its pretty stupid to think that civy wise they make the bf or drug dealer cover up, accidents also happen. When you start off assuming and in one paragraph imply you do bb and the next say you don't confuses me. So when a provider says she has no cover and you reply I'm here to fuck and she replies you look healthy you do what?? 1 bb or 2 pull out your wallet condom and say surprise I'm covered, just seeing if you do bb.

[IsitinGood]

I was about to post how I felt some of these girls could have been very attractive had they stayed clean and lived a better life. Not judging but look at how they decline over such a short period. I've spent time with some girls in vegas and while the price is higher you see where the money goes when they show up. They have the low end users too but why would one bother when an actual model can show up at uour room and fuck your brains out. I know there are some decent ones around but I haven't met or even heard of one that I would think was oit of my league and that is the holy grail of thia game for me. Well, that and the bng I have to resort to since I'm here most of the time. But another vegas trip is only a few months away and reconnaissance is under way.


I used to be very active on here circa 2009 to 2010. I took a hiatus in 2012 while pursuing sugarbabies. My reason for doing so was that I couldn't find enough higher quality girls like Shelly 19 here. (Shelly was the Bomb, but she didn't stay around for long.).

From a transactional perspective, I like the idea of escorts vs sugar babies. While you can find some awesome girls on the sugar sites, the sugar baby scene takes a lot of time and effort. Hence my return here to check things out.

But: USAG doesn't seem to have changed much.

I don't meant to start a flame war. But it seems that the market here is still kind of low-end. A lot of the women mentioned in the posts seem older, heavier, and rougher. Even worse, a lot of the women who were here in 2010 are still here.

Maybe this is just a different market for a different level of taste. But tell me: Is there no one else here who wouldn't mind higher standards?

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

With Matt Lauer from the Today Show being the latest dude to get fired for sexual harassment related stuff, it just makes a guy wonder where is this all going, and when on earth is it ever going to end?

Obviously, the advantage of the hobby is we don't have to worry about providers filing a complaint with HR. But in the current witch-hunt atmosphere, I worry more than ever about being unemployable if my addiction to young women gets exposed via arrest or whatever. And I am old enough to have to worry about age discrimination. Just sayin'.

[TMeister]

With Matt Lauer from the Today Show being the latest dude to get fired for sexual harassment related stuff, it just makes a guy wonder where is this all going, and when on earth is it ever going to end?

Obviously, the advantage of the hobby is we don't have to worry about providers filing a complaint with HR. But in the current witch-hunt atmosphere, I worry more than ever about being unemployable if my addiction to young women gets exposed via arrest or whatever. And I am old enough to have to worry about age discrimination. Just sayin'.I think all this public-shaming about "sexual harassers" is just a sign and symptom of a bigger problem, which is the Internet being used for all the wrong reasons.

Once an asteroid hits or Kim Jong wipes out humanity with his nukes, some future civilization is going to study 20th-21st century culture and see that the Internet was a wonderful idea but ultimately a really bad amplification system for the worst of human behavior. Whereas other tech innovations like electricity and automobiles had a mostly upside, future historians will regard the Internet as mostly bad and a tool for an infinite amount of wicked uses. Modern society did very well for hundreds of years with only the printing press, but giving instant worldwide mass communication to every single human on Earth is just a recipe for Armageddon. Think about it and I'm sure you'll agree.

[Fdx17]

I thought the discussion was monger / provider and bb. Yeah its pretty stupid to think that civy wise they make the bf or drug dealer cover up, accidents also happen. When you start off assuming and in one paragraph imply you do bb and the next say you don't confuses me. So when a provider says she has no cover and you reply I'm here to fuck and she replies you look healthy you do what?? 1 bb or 2 pull out your wallet condom and say surprise I'm covered, just seeing if you do bb.Option 2.

Not that it matters what my preference is, but I do not do bb.

Early on in my hobby life I believed all the ladies who said covers only. Over the years I have found that to not be the case. Let's face it. Many of these girls have problems and needs that will make them willing to do whatever is necessary to make that happen.

I always carry condoms. However when I am told they are not available, I use the opportunity to learn. What I have learned is, bb is usually available under the right circumstances.

As far as the boyfriend or drug dealer, I probably do not want to follow the boyfriend bb. Who knows what else he does when he's not with her and I darn sure don't want to follow the drug dealer.

I am not being judgemental. I couldn't care less who does and who doesn't. I am just stating my experience. Which furthers my commitment to use covers.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

Option 2.

Not that it matters what my preference is, but I do not do bb.

Early on in my hobby life I believed all the ladies who said covers only. Over the years I have found that to not be the case. Let's face it. Many of these girls have problems and needs that will make them willing to do whatever is necessary to make that happen.

I always carry condoms. However when I am told they are not available, I use the opportunity to learn. What I have learned is, bb is usually available under the right circumstances.

As far as the boyfriend or drug dealer, I probably do not want to follow the boyfriend bb. Who knows what else he does when he's not with her and I darn sure don't want to follow the drug dealer.

I am not being judgemental. I couldn't care less who does and who doesn't. I am just stating my experience. Which furthers my commitment to use covers.

Now go have fun.

Fdx.And these days, I wouldn't do bb outside the hobby either. I've been working on getting into the panties of this single mother I know. She can put away the drinks for a petite thing and I'm pretty sure she smokes weed too. I do not assume for a minute she insists on covers when she's drunk / high and who knows how many guys she's been with.

[BoxsterS]

I used to be very active on here circa 2009 to 2010. I took a hiatus in 2012 while pursuing sugarbabies. My reason for doing so was that I couldn't find enough higher quality girls like Shelly 19 here. (Shelly was the Bomb, but she didn't stay around for long.).

From a transactional perspective, I like the idea of escorts vs sugar babies. While you can find some awesome girls on the sugar sites, the sugar baby scene takes a lot of time and effort. Hence my return here to check things out.

But: USAG doesn't seem to have changed much.

I don't meant to start a flame war. But it seems that the market here is still kind of low-end. A lot of the women mentioned in the posts seem older, heavier, and rougher. Even worse, a lot of the women who were here in 2010 are still here.



Maybe this is just a different market for a different level of taste. But tell me: Is there no one else here who wouldn't mind higher standards?Don't have the answer:

Seems to me when E.com shut down the talent starting to dwindle. There were some rough ones on there however, there were plenty of good talent. Always had a bucket list. The photographs were better then too. Most, not all don't even pickup the place before snatching the phone and doing a photo shoot.

250 an hour was the going rate and there weren't any hhr or QV. If a girl was in a hotel, the beds were made, no clothes laying around, or fast food bags and cups either. Then comes the dental issues. It wasn't even a concern then. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't always the of Oz then but, the talent pool was greater. How long has it been since, courtesan was in an ad? Also, plenty without tattoos. I love when Mr. Easton will pull a few names out of thin air and stir some memories.

Your not the only one struggling with this "journey". My first experience in USA was with CandanceceXo. Solid reviews, go see her, what a disaster. Some shit hole apartment with the walls line with furniture like some thrift store. Walked out. That was the eye opener and there have been plenty since.

What happened? I don't have the answer. Is it that the smart phone is so easily accessible a SW can now be on the Internet?

The heroin and meth issue? Law enforcement cracking down on the internet? The internet flooded with plenty of free porn and there is a porn addiction problem and it has driven down the need for quality providers and replaced physical contact? Has porn created an ED epidemic?

Is this the day Einstein feared most? "When technology will surpass our Human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".

You think SA and SD is time consuming did you do the Ashley Madison thing? Now that was some work. I have found a woman with a "past" can so much more interesting to talk to.

Good luck on your journey, Sir.

[DaddioDoc]

Spot on TM!

As someone who has made A LOT of money in the IT business, it's difficult for me to bad mouth the Internet, but I think you're right. For every good purpose it serves, there are probably 3 that aren't so good.

Not the least of which is ruining human social skills. Every day I see at least one example of a parent engrossed in their phone while their kid tries fruitlessly to get their attention.

I've often mused that a huge worldwide EMP detonation might not be a bad thing. Obviously there would be mass casualties in the beginning of people who couldn't survive without creature comforts & gadgets. But Bocephus had it right, "A Country Boy can Survive" !


I think all this public-shaming about "sexual harassers" is just a sign and symptom of a bigger problem, which is the Internet being used for all the wrong reasons.

Once an asteroid hits or Kim Jong wipes out humanity with his nukes, some future civilization is going to study 20th-21st century culture and see that the Internet was a wonderful idea but ultimately a really bad amplification system for the worst of human behavior. Whereas other tech innovations like electricity and automobiles had a mostly upside, future historians will regard the Internet as mostly bad and a tool for an infinite amount of wicked uses. Modern society did very well for hundreds of years with only the printing press, but giving instant worldwide mass communication to every single human on Earth is just a recipe for Armageddon. Think about it and I'm sure you'll agree.

[John Cleland]

It was a good run. But I don't have the stomach for this hobby any longer. Without going into detail I have finally acquired an incredible situation for myself that now leaves me completely, and ironically, distracted from the hobby. For the first time EVER I am now not only compelled to give up the hobby, I honestly don't find myself that interested even in checking-in to the board here just to see what's going on. I still occasionally do for entertainment. But it's now been weeks since participating. And after this post I see myself signing-in less and less until I'm probably soon not going to be checking-in at all. This comes after over 40 years of mongering on four continents around the world and the small fortune spent supporting it. Most importantly, I have no regrets!

I've seen and experienced it all. And though I'm as fit as I was in my twenties, I cannot mentally keep up with the volume of trials, tribulations, and troubles associated with today's current version of the hobby any longer. Some may say I'm wimping out. I think it's more like I'm mentally worn out. I mostly attribute this to direct and indirect byproducts of the heroin epidemic. I've never experienced anything like it since my first encounters with it starting around seven years ago. Before these past few years, the volume of thievery, lies, deceptions, stray needles and paraphernalia left in my car and / or hotel bathrooms, dope sick sob stories, blah blah blah was nowhere near as high as it is now. And then finally around a month ago I had my first terrifying encounter with a gorgeous high-end passed-out provider who finally woke after an hour (and just before I was about to sacrifice everything to do the right thing and call for an ambulance). No, I won't name names here. For me, it's simply time to retire.

Don't get me wrong. I not only had a blast over the past decades (and I've had some absolutely amazing experiences), I learned a lot about myself and what I've concluded about the true nature of humanity.

Though some of you may be thinking, "he'll be back. " I won't. Even if what I believe I've finally established for myself now turns out to be a drastic miscalculation (which of course is always a possibility), I'm settled with my "mexit" (short for monger-exit). Not sharing details about this, but for the first time I am completely undistracted from my personal path. It's actually sort of weird to no longer be hobby-distracted during a relationship commitment. And I'm enthusiastically embracing it.

I'm sharing this with the team now because this site has been a most amazing resource for both my later years of hobby successes and my safety. I especially wish to thank Jackson and A2 for making it happen and dealing with the crap that comes along with it (including some from me). It's kept us all informed and as safe as possible given we all have no choice but to be UTR ourselves. Thanks as well to my brother mongers for your PMs, advice, and rants. And for those of you just getting started on this board, my unsolicited advice is:

- NEVER reveal your real name to anyone.

- NEVER use anything other than a burner phone (app phone numbers suck and I'm still not convinced they're as UTR as anonymously cash-purchased burner phones IMHO).

- and NEVER lend a thing (cash or otherwise) that you'll ever expect returned.

Safe travels and good hunting, my friends. It was a good run.

Mongernator out.

[CrissyLynn2015]

So, I've received a lot of texts today and unfortunately can't get to every single one:/ I just started my female issue late last night. I'm out of commission until Monday at latest I'm sure. Hope A2 let's me post this, I just don't want people to feel like I'm going crickets on them:/ Everyone have a safe and great weekend! Don't do anything I wouldn't do LOL haha! Xoxo!

[BengalMan]

It was a good run. But I don't have the stomach for this hobby any longer. Without going into detail I have finally acquired an incredible situation for myself that now leaves me completely, and ironically, distracted from the hobby. For the first time EVER I am now not only compelled to give up the hobby, I honestly don't find myself that interested even in checking-in to the board here just to see what's going on. I still occasionally do for entertainment. But it's now been weeks since participating. And after this post I see myself signing-in less and less until I'm probably soon not going to be checking-in at all. This comes after over 40 years of mongering on four continents around the world and the small fortune spent supporting it. Most importantly, I have no regrets!

I've seen and experienced it all. And though I'm as fit as I was in my twenties, I cannot mentally keep up with the volume of trials, tribulations, and troubles associated with today's current version of the hobby any longer. Some may say I'm wimping out. I think it's more like I'm mentally worn out. I mostly attribute this to direct and indirect byproducts of the heroin epidemic. I've never experienced anything like it since my first encounters with it starting around seven years ago. Before these past few years, the volume of thievery, lies, deceptions, stray needles and paraphernalia left in my car and / or hotel bathrooms, dope sick sob stories, blah blah blah was nowhere near as high as it is now. And then finally around a month ago I had my first terrifying encounter with a gorgeous high-end passed-out provider who finally woke after an hour (and just before I was about to sacrifice everything to do the right thing and call for an ambulance). No, I won't name names here. For me, it's simply time to retire.

Don't get me wrong. I not only had a blast over the past decades (and I've had some absolutely amazing experiences), I learned a lot about myself and what I've concluded about the true nature of humanity.

Though some of you may be thinking, "he'll be back. " I won't. Even if what I believe I've finally established for myself now turns out to be a drastic miscalculation (which of course is always a possibility), I'm settled with my "mexit" (short for monger-exit). Not sharing details about this, but for the first time I am completely undistracted from my personal path. It's actually sort of weird to no longer be hobby-distracted during a relationship commitment. And I'm enthusiastically embracing it.

I'm sharing this with the team now because this site has been a most amazing resource for both my later years of hobby successes and my safety. I especially wish to thank Jackson and A2 for making it happen and dealing with the crap that comes along with it (including some from me). It's kept us all informed and as safe as possible given we all have no choice but to be UTR ourselves. Thanks as well to my brother mongers for your PMs, advice, and rants. And for those of you just getting started on this board, my unsolicited advice is:

- NEVER reveal your real name to anyone.

- NEVER use anything other than a burner phone (app phone numbers suck and I'm still not convinced they're as UTR as anonymously cash-purchased burner phones IMHO).

- and NEVER lend a thing (cash or otherwise) that you'll ever expect returned.

Safe travels and good hunting, my friends. It was a good run.

Mongernator out.With a tear in my eye.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

And for those of you just getting started on this board, my unsolicited advice is:

- NEVER reveal your real name to anyone.

- NEVER use anything other than a burner phone (app phone numbers suck and I'm still not convinced they're as UTR as anonymously cash-purchased burner phones IMHO).

- and NEVER lend a thing (cash or otherwise) that you'll ever expect returned.

I fully endorse this advice. I have never told anyone my real name (including my real first name), have always used a burner phone, and have never loaned anything to a provider.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Don't have the answer:

Seems to me when E.com shut down the talent starting to dwindle. There were some rough ones on there however, there were plenty of good talent. Always had a bucket list. The photographs were better then too. Most, not all don't even pickup the place before snatching the phone and doing a photo shoot.

250 an hour was the going rate and there weren't any hhr or QV. If a girl was in a hotel, the beds were made, no clothes laying around, or fast food bags and cups either. Then comes the dental issues. It wasn't even a concern then. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't always the of Oz then but, the talent pool was greater. How long has it been since, courtesan was in an ad? Also, plenty without tattoos. I love when Mr. Easton will pull a few names out of thin air and stir some memories.

Your not the only one struggling with this "journey". My first experience in USA was with CandanceceXo. Solid reviews, go see her, what a disaster. Some shit hole apartment with the walls line with furniture like some thrift store. Walked out. That was the eye opener and there have been plenty since.

What happened? I don't have the answer. Is it that the smart phone is so easily accessible a SW can now be on the Internet?

The heroin and meth issue? Law enforcement cracking down on the internet? The internet flooded with plenty of free porn and there is a porn addiction problem and it has driven down the need for quality providers and replaced physical contact? Has porn created an ED epidemic?

Is this the day Einstein feared most? "When technology will surpass our Human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".

You think SA and SD is time consuming did you do the Ashley Madison thing? Now that was some work. I have found a woman with a "past" can so much more interesting to talk to.

Good luck on your journey, Sir.Your question about the drug crisis is not a factor. Hookers have been users for ages. Booze, pot, pills and heroin are not new, just more out of the closet. The only thing that it has caused is that there are more women looking for the next fix and dropping their price to get it, mainly because of the increased number of women advertising. The SW with "digits" is true, just read the SW forum and that is evident.

There are still quality providers that advertise here. Read the reviews, you won't find many, but the ones that are here are very good.

The death of free BP ads has caused many lower echelon ladies to come to USAAC. This has taken the spotlight off the long time, professional and sexy ladies, which makes them more difficult to locate.

I have found a few here, including my current ATF, but that took a few so-so appointments to achieve.

The really good ones are moving their efforts to ThE otheR and a Preferred site. Don't take this wrong brother mongers, but they feel they can find a better customer. A customer who doesn't complain about screening for new customers. A customer that sees the rate on their site profiles and don't haggle. Also they will often tip and pay for 60 and stay 45, or book 90 or 120 and not use up their whole time, paying to not be rushed out because the next guy's on his way. Oh and most don't cancel. Also I think that many BP Mongers have moved here. Look at all the New Mongers that post. They are the first to haggle and complain about rates and screening. So maybe we should look ourselves in the mirror and ask, "Do I treat the ladies with the same respect and business practices that I want in my professional life?

Cincinnati's rates are low compared to other markets. That is the state of things. Ladies in Columbus are $50 or more higher for poor service. Go to Houston or Dallas, the going rate is $300 for incall $350 for outcall or higher for the better than average ladies.

USASG is still a great board. There are still great ladies here. I hope that they stay, but I know that they will be less active as their Fan Clubs grow.

I'll probably get labeled a White Knight. But I don't care. I have always sought quality. I support the ones that support me.

[Todd Cincy]

There are still quality providers that advertise here. Read the reviews, you won't find many, but the ones that are here are very good.

The death of free BP ads has caused many lower echelon ladies to come to USAAC. This has taken the spotlight off the long time, professional and sexy ladies, which makes them more difficult to locate.

I have found a few here, including my current ATF, but that took a few so-so appointments to achieve.

The really good ones are moving their efforts to ThE otheR and a Preferred site. Don't take this wrong brother mongers, but they feel they can find a better customer. A customer who doesn't complain about screening for new customers. A customer that sees the rate on their site profiles and don't haggle. Also they will often tip and pay for 60 and stay 45, or book 90 or 120 and not use up their whole time, paying to not be rushed out because the next guy's on his way. Oh and most don't cancel. Also I think that many BP Mongers have moved here. Look at all the New Mongers that post. They are the first to haggle and complain about rates and screening. So maybe we should look ourselves in the mirror and ask, "Do I treat the ladies with the same respect and business practices that I want in my professional life?

Cincinnati's rates are low compared to other markets. That is the state of things. Ladies in Columbus are $50 or more higher for poor service. Go to Houston or Dallas, the going rate is $300 for incall $350 for outcall or higher for the better than average ladies.

USASG is still a great board. There are still great ladies here. I hope that they stay, but I know that they will be less active as their Fan Clubs grow.

I'll probably get labeled a White Knight. But I don't care. I have always sought quality. I support the ones that support me.Another factor is that we all define quality differently.

Let's face it: It is exponentially easier to find what you want here if you prefer older women, and you don't mind a few extra pounds. I read the posts, and some guys here seem to actually prefer women over 35.

I like young spinner types, so it's more difficult for me.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Another factor is that we all define quality differently.

Let's face it: It is exponentially easier to find what you want here if you prefer older women, and you don't mind a few extra pounds. I read the posts, and some guys here seem to actually prefer women over 35.

I like young spinner types, so it's more difficult for me.I totally understand. The line up of women are basically a smorgasbord of pussy. There is a woman in this world for every man, fat, skinny, young or old. I am not sure where you will find the "young spinner types" other than BP or SA. From what I have seen that is where the young'ins go first. And since they are young, they are still getting their shit together, they aren't as reliable.

Looking at the posts, it appears that the majority of the complaints about communication and location are about young ones. To them providing is just a quick way to make cash, it has not become a business / career yet. Their lithe, youthful bodies make up for some of the lacking in those areas, but they are also susceptible to a quick burn-out from the hobby because there are more hobbyists looking for that excitement of kicking it with a younger woman. The women also get overwhelmed by the avalanche of calls and texts.

[Twisted69]

Another factor is that we all define quality differently.

Let's face it: It is exponentially easier to find what you want here if you prefer older women, and you don't mind a few extra pounds. I read the posts, and some guys here seem to actually prefer women over 35.

I like young spinner types, so it's more difficult for me.Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found!

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found!My question is threefold, who are they, what are their rates and which of them are still actively advertising on USAAC? I think I recognize one, but without names to search they are hard to find.

[Todd Cincy]

Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found!I'm giving USAG another run. I hope to find more like those.

Unfortunately, this type seems to be more plentiful:

https://independent.com.cincinnati.escortbabylon.com/post/25037387/5133886563#.

Again, not knocking others' tastes; just not for me.

Thanks again for the input.

[Lambert75]

Hi fellow mongers.

Yeah spinners with little tits.

I would rally like to know who bottom left pic is?

Stay safe.

Lambert75.


Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found!

[Fffooey]

My question is threefold, who are they, what are their rates and which of them are still actively advertising on USAAC? I think I recognize one, but without names to search they are hard to find.The first one on the second row is Addie. She is no longer seeing people. The rest are unfamiliar to me. I'd love to know the top middle lady though.

[Member #5551]

The first one on the second row is Addie. She is no longer seeing people. The rest are unfamiliar to me. I'd love to know the top middle lady though.I'd love to know top row lady first one.

[Simp4ebony]

So my wife said something the other day that felt like a first step towards getting busted! LOL.

I'm almost on the other side of paying off major debt. So the hobby has been the kind of thing I've been scratching together dollars in small increments till I save up enough. The closer I get to finishing paying my debt, however, the more I'm feeling the squeeze.

I probably should not have done my last two visits for this reason. I got anxious, and I started saving up too much at once, and I went with not enough time between visits. Like I said, my wife has now asked, "What have you been spending all your money on?

Shit! LOL. I'm good for now, but I guess I got to start being more strategic!

[Strip Junkie]

So my wife said something the other day that felt like a first step towards getting busted! LOL.

I'm almost on the other side of paying off major debt. So the hobby has been the kind of thing I've been scratching together dollars in small increments till I save up enough. The closer I get to finishing paying my debt, however, the more I'm feeling the squeeze.

I probably should not have done my last two visits for this reason. I got anxious, and I started saving up too much at once, and I went with not enough time between visits. Like I said, my wife has now asked, "What have you been spending all your money on?

Shit! LOL. I'm good for now, but I guess I got to start being more strategic!Christmas shopping has always worked for me this time of year. It works for both "What have you been spending your money on?" and "Where have you been?

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

So my wife said something the other day that felt like a first step towards getting busted! LOL.

I'm almost on the other side of paying off major debt. So the hobby has been the kind of thing I've been scratching together dollars in small increments till I save up enough. The closer I get to finishing paying my debt, however, the more I'm feeling the squeeze.

I probably should not have done my last two visits for this reason. I got anxious, and I started saving up too much at once, and I went with not enough time between visits. Like I said, my wife has now asked, "What have you been spending all your money on?

Shit! LOL. I'm good for now, but I guess I got to start being more strategic!I hear ya. My wife does not inquire very much about my spending or finances. But it is an ongoing challenge to get my needs met (the hobby being the only place I'm getting needs met) without going too long or too short of a time between visits to providers.

[Twisted69]

The first one on the second row is Addie. She is no longer seeing people. The rest are unfamiliar to me. I'd love to know the top middle lady though.Addie is number 4 on the top row. The one on the bottom row is Jackie who looked a lot like addie, she was only around for about a month. The pics are saved with the names in the file name.

[MVD212]

Glad to see your back! Quite a few long time seniors are gone sad to say!

Here are a few spinners that you have missed while hunting in other fields. They can be found!I saw #5 twice about 15 months ago, 1st time amazing, 2nd time ok, she stopped posting, I contacted new girls, lost her # shortly after. Was west side past price hill, around the corner from a bar, upstairs apt.

[Achill]

Been on the bench for a minute and looking to start back again. Looking for a good oral visit and needing some guidance. Anyone with who to go with? Thanks.

[Fffooey]

Addie is number 4 on the top row. The one on the bottom row is Jackie who looked a lot like addie, she was only around for about a month. The pics are saved with the names in the file name.We are taking about the same girl. I'm guessing the pictures lineup differently on my phone than wherever you are looking at them.

[Vinlmp]

Been on the bench for a minute and looking to start back again. Looking for a good oral visit and needing some guidance. Anyone with who to go with? Thanks.By far Kellie or Elliegirl, has the best oral skills. Swallows you whole with her nose on the sack and comes up far air with a big smile on her face! Takes a breath and goes back for more. What more is there to say, really? Will leave you smiling from ear to ear in disbelief.

Best eye contact with great oral skills, among many other amazing skills, is BustyREd. Still my ATF.

Cassie knows what she's doing also. Will not leave disappointed.

Limp Vinny.

[INTravelingMan]

Has she started to get a little GPS? She just hit the scene a few weeks ago and head reasonable rates. Now she is $$. 2 her hour? I guess business must be good.


By far Kellie or Elliegirl, has the best oral skills. Swallows you whole with her nose on the sack and comes up far air with a big smile on her face! Takes a breath and goes back for more. What more is there to say, really? Will leave you smiling from ear to ear in disbelief.

Best eye contact with great oral skills, among many other amazing skills, is BustyREd. Still my ATF.

Cassie knows what she's doing also. Will not leave disappointed.

Limp Vinny.

[MVD212]

By far Kellie or Elliegirl, has the best oral skills. Swallows you whole with her nose on the sack and comes up far air with a big smile on her face! Takes a breath and goes back for more. What more is there to say, really? Will leave you smiling from ear to ear in disbelief.

Best eye contact with great oral skills, among many other amazing skills, is BustyREd. Still my ATF.

Cassie knows what she's doing also. Will not leave disappointed.

Limp Vinny.Seen at least 10 great reviews on Kellie and I'd like to get in on that, but expensive as hell.

You guys must have 'Real' jobs LOL.

[RogerOver]

Has she started to get a little GPS? She just hit the scene a few weeks ago and head reasonable rates. Now she is $$. 2 her hour? I guess business must be good.Smart play. The fastest way to weed out the riff-raff IMO. If she has a following that will pay it, then her market is solid.

[FMichaels4533]

Smart play. The fastest way to weed out the riff-raff IMO. If she has a following that will pay it, then her market is solid.It's supply and demand. She is seeing what the market will bare. If her business slips, she'll probably adjust her rates. If it stays steady, she made a smart play. (just hope she grandfathers her established clients at the rates we're used too) If not, I'll suck it up, she's worth it IMHO.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

It's supply and demand. She is seeing what the market will bare. If her business slips, she'll probably adjust her rates. If it stays steady, she made a smart play. (just hope she grandfathers her established clients at the rates we're used too) If not, I'll suck it up, she's worth it IMHO.It's her time (that's what we pay for, right?) It's her right to charge what she wants.

It will weed out the low ballers and the BP Bozos who think that every woman charges too much.

If you are looking for a woman that on my charges $150 or less, they are there. But you won't get the value she gives.

(Don't call me a White Knight for her as I have never seen
her, I just know what I read.).

[HuntLadys29]

It's her time (that's what we pay for, right?) It's her right to charge what she wants.

It will weed out the low ballers and the BP Bozos who think that every woman charges too much.

If you are looking for a woman that on my charges $150 or less, they are there. But you won't get the value she gives.

(Don't call me a White Knight for her as I have never seen
her, I just know what I read.).I don't think charging more makes the provider better. I have been with 100 dollar plus providers and left feeling like I could have got the same fore a SW. I was with a lady yesterday I've posted on her before she isn't a dime piece a little flabby decent face but she is very sexual and confident in her skills and herself and very orgasmic. I'm telling you this chick hit nut after nut after nut I came CFS harder than I have in a long time. We were both into it I don't kiss but it was as close to GFE that I could get all for 50 bucks. Nice secure environment on a safe street. I know YMMV but there are so many ladies here in the greater Cincinnati area I just can't give that kind of coin out when I know that there are girls out there that are doing this for far less and I'll have just as good a time maybe better just my 2 cents. HL29.

[RogerOver]

I don't think charging more makes the provider better. I have been with 100 dollar plus providers and left feeling like I could have got the same fore a SW. I was with a lady yesterday I've posted on her before she isn't a dime piece a little flabby decent face but she is very sexual and confident in her skills and herself and very orgasmic. I'm telling you this chick hit nut after nut after nut I came CFS harder than I have in a long time. We were both into it I don't kiss but it was as close to GFE that I could get all for 50 bucks. Nice secure environment on a safe street. I know YMMV but there are so many ladies here in the greater Cincinnati area I just can't give that kind of coin out when I know that there are girls out there that are doing this for far less and I'll have just as good a time maybe better just my 2 cents. HL29.That charging more does not make a provider better. If you and the girl are both happy with whatever arrangement you come to, then it's a good transaction.

[Dillsborodave]

So how much was her original hr rate?? $$ is not that big of a jump to what she quoted me the last time.

[INTravelingMan]

If I remember correctly, she hit the scene at $. 8 for the hour, $ for the half and. 7 for the quick for the area. I reached out last week and she quoted me $$. 2 and $. 4 for half with no quick. While it may not be a huge jump, in this competitive market and in such a short time, that to me is a big jump. Supply and demand folks.


So how much was her original hr rate?? $$ is not that big of a jump to what she quoted me the last time.

[MVD212]

I don't think charging more makes the provider better. I have been with 100 dollar plus providers and left feeling like I could have got the same fore a SW. I was with a lady yesterday I've posted on her before she isn't a dime piece a little flabby decent face but she is very sexual and confident in her skills and herself and very orgasmic. I'm telling you this chick hit nut after nut after nut I came CFS harder than I have in a long time. We were both into it I don't kiss but it was as close to GFE that I could get all for 50 bucks. Nice secure environment on a safe street. I know YMMV but there are so many ladies here in the greater Cincinnati area I just can't give that kind of coin out when I know that there are girls out there that are doing this for far less and I'll have just as good a time maybe better just my 2 cents. HL29.Damn HL, I want to meet your girl!

[Kenal1]

Backpage is getting worse and worse. It's never been up to the quality of USA but at least it was an "acceptable" 2nd choice to occasionally find a gal who was new to the business or, perhaps, find some bargains. Several years ago I used it fairly regularly (before I discovered USA) and, by and large, it worked for me. Now, however, there's maybe one out of 25 ads or so that even hint at being real and the latest quirk is that nobody seems to even put a real ad up--all they do is direct you to a Facebook or Instagram page and, more often than not, the links don't work. I'm I missing something or has BP become TOTALLY lame and useless?

[MVD212]

Backpage is getting worse and worse. It's never been up to the quality of USA but at least it was an "acceptable" 2nd choice to occasionally find a gal who was new to the business or, perhaps, find some bargains. Several years ago I used it fairly regularly (before I discovered USA) and, by and large, it worked for me. Now, however, there's maybe one out of 25 ads or so that even hint at being real and the latest quirk is that nobody seems to even put a real ad up--all they do is direct you to a Facebook or Instagram page and, more often than not, the links don't work. I'm I missing something or has BP become TOTALLY lame and useless?Yr right on. I feel exact same way.

It's so bad I've gone back to Craigslist for disappointment.

[Simp4ebony]

Backpage is getting worse and worse. It's never been up to the quality of USA but at least it was an "acceptable" 2nd choice to occasionally find a gal who was new to the business or, perhaps, find some bargains. Several years ago I used it fairly regularly (before I discovered USA) and, by and large, it worked for me. Now, however, there's maybe one out of 25 ads or so that even hint at being real and the latest quirk is that nobody seems to even put a real ad up--all they do is direct you to a Facebook or Instagram page and, more often than not, the links don't work. I'm I missing something or has BP become TOTALLY lame and useless?It's my understanding they now force the girls to provide a social media link, hence the fake links. That doesn't bother me in the least.

[TMeister]

By far Kellie or Elliegirl, has the best oral skills. Swallows you whole with her nose on the sack and comes up far air with a big smile on her face! Takes a breath and goes back for more. What more is there to say, really? Will leave you smiling from ear to ear in disbelief.So Kellie provides the closest thing to authentic porn star experience with the BBBJ?

I'm looking for a pretty girl who does the porn dirty talk while sucking me. She says stuff like "God, I love sucking this dick" and "Splash every drop of that load into my mouth, baby" and other stimulating words like that.

Will she do it?

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.

[Strip Junkie]

Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.For me, the biggest change came when I became friends with the owner and girls of a local AMP. It is gone now, because the owner retired, not due to LEO, but I am still good friends with the two of the girls and their families. In spite of what you might read and hear, the majority of Asians that I have come into contact with are really warm, good hearted people and I have great respect for them. Without going to AMPs, I doubt that I would have ever met and become close enough to any Asians to experience their friendship to the extent that I have.

[ChloeStarr]

Tried moving this to the opinion thread but copy / paste wouldn't work on tablet.

We all like variety.

LuvnLivn.LuvnLivn we've actually had this convo. I'm not going to go info as much detail as we did or my post would be several pages long LOL. However this is a topic I enjoy discussing and hearing others opinions on it. The first thing that I want to say is obviously the guys in this hobby like variety or "something new" or "strange" as the kids now days are speaking LMAO! ANYWHO LOL to me that's a very obvious fact. If they weren't I treated in something different or variety then they'd still be at home having married sex! BTW that's lights off most clothes still on under the covers mish with eyes squeezed as tight as humanly possible and NO SOUND! So if they ate sleeping with someone else why would you think that they would find 1 girl and stick with only her? Even if a guy has. "ATF" or is a "regular" most still find ways to see other providers. Like when they go out of town stuff like that. And they do it here too it's just some have to actually hide seeing other providers from their ATF bcz for some unknown reason some girls get MAD! I'll never understand this concept! Unless you've entered into a relationship with that client and you've discussed not seeing anyone else how can you get upset if he sees someone else or new? For God sakes he prob has a wide or GF in his civi life! No with me go for it! Don't get me wrong I want repeat clients and regulars bcz each experience gets better and better the closer and more you get to know each oither. Which in turn helps create a very amazing intimate experience. There's something to be said about being with someone that just knows how to please you in ways others don't and don't have to be instructed on what to do. The best part is you get all the great aspects of a relationship with none of the bad. Well usually. Bcz if you have a plrovider that gets mad that you see other people and can't even use them for a reference bcz your worried if they find out they will get mad at you! That's just crazy to me. I want you to come see me bcz YPU WANT TO and bcz YOU ENJOY ME! Not bcz you feel obligated or want to avoid drama. Isn't that the point of seeing a provider? Relax, tension relief, pleasure, total joy with no bull no drama none of the usual. Relationshop negatives. As a provider I do like the variety to a point. I'm not interested I seeing or meeting 10 guys a day. I enjoy my repeat clients and I enjoy making new ones as well. I just limit the amount of clientts I see a day for personal preferences. So yes variety is good and needed to keep this hobby alive but there's also positives about seeing the same person multiple times. However you can see the same people repeatedly and still have variety. I for one don't want to see the exact same guys everyday every week. I like what I get on multiple levels from each DIFFERENT personalities and individuals. I get a fulfillment from different things from each diff person and it allows me to explkore diff things sexually bcz everyone likes diff things. So I'm getting fulfilled sexually in ways most women in the civil world can't or won't bcz then they get do it shamed. So there my 2 cents I guess. Please be nice to me LOL. And LuvnLivn as always I always enjoy our convos even if this wasn't directed at me I still was able to converse with you about it LOL.

Xoxo.

Chloe.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.That I am probably not capable of monogamy anymore, which I was once upon a time. Maybe part of it I'm just wired that way anyhow. But having been with cute young women almost 3 decades younger than me, I'm not sure that I can ever be 100% monogamous with a woman closer to my age.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.After being in relationships with two providers who had small breasts and really nice butts, I have become a butt fan.

Don't get me wrong, I still like boobies (especially ones with nice nipples) but a fine "Onion" to play with is a thing of beauty.

[GolfGuy]

Was contacted today buy an old friend I've seen off and on for 10 yrs who needs some help. Trained in massage with her own table (milking table at that) works out of an apartment near Ikea. 150 hr. She's been on backpage in the past but she desperately needs clients and $$. Just lost her regular job and the engine blew in her car, so if you have a car to donate she would be grateful. Known her for years and she's not on drugs. Nice body and very skilled. Trusted seniors PM for digits and info. Thanks.

Golfguy.

[Tickle Jay]

I don't think it has changed me, but it has satisfied a lot of curiosities. And I know it has taken a long time to find providers who really understand what I'm looking for. I've learned that duos aren't all they're cracked up to be, except for one pair (in another state) who totally got inside my head and sent me into orbit.

And it's made me wish that there were more areas (or at least one closer to home) that had the kind of AMPs that they have in Dallas. On second thought, maybe it's good they're not here, because I would be broke and homeless. LOL.


Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.

[RogerOver]

I haven't had free p###yin a while, it's not that I'm not capable of getting it the ladies think I'm handsome and I don't look my 60 years of age. Free p###yis always a hassle, from attachments to jealousy. I banged one of my 27 year old workers this weekend I had to sneak out the house when everybody went to sleep got a room banged her really well and took her back to her place. No complaints from her I'm sure she wanted to stay all night but she understood my situation. She is white with a black dude who is so in love with her or just plain jealous, they've known each other 3 weeks it's funny because I think she likes having him on a string the guy is in his 40's doesn't work no place of his own no car and no money. She was a lot of fun in the sack and asked for zero dollars just wanted Mr. Happy. I don't want the hassle with this dude because he thinks I've been banging her from day one, but I like the idea of free p###y from a petite young girl, what do you guys think should I keep banging her or just move on? I'm not sure what he's capable of I can handle myself and since I'm mobile I can take her places to have some fun and he can't get there because the bum walks everywhere. Just need a little input. Thanks. HL29.IMHO if you own your business, fuck any of your workers you like so long as it's consensual and there's no coercion on your part. I used to bang the hell out of my office manager (hired her because she was really hot) and while there was some drama at the end and her husband didn't like me much, there's nothing illegal about it. Personal circumstances might make you leery, but other than that, have at it!

If you're an employee in a company then that's a whole different set of issues.

[TMeister]

IMHO if you own your business, fuck any of your workers you like so long as it's consensual and there's no coercion on your part. I used to bang the hell out of my office manager (hired her because she was really hot) and while there was some drama at the end and her husband didn't like me much, there's nothing illegal about it. Personal circumstances might make you leery, but other than that, have at it!

If you're an employee in a company then that's a whole different set of issues.I'm not a lawyer but I don't think owning your own business gives you immunity to sexual harassment lawsuits. Federal and state laws exist to protect ANY employee from sexual harassment at the workplace, regardless if it's a huge Fortune 500 company or a solo proprietorship. I'm sure being the boss of a small business gives you perks like hiring young hotties with cute tight little butts and perky racks that look good in low-cut blouses and then possibly boning them as a side bonus, but you're not immune from the law and civil suits.

Just a little FYI for all you horny mongers out there looking to sample some candy at work LOL.

[Addiction69]

I haven't had free p###yin a while, it's not that I'm not capable of getting it the ladies think I'm handsome and I don't look my 60 years of age. Free p###yis always a hassle, from attachments to jealousy. I banged one of my 27 year old workers this weekend I had to sneak out the house when everybody went to sleep got a room banged her really well and took her back to her place. No complaints from her I'm sure she wanted to stay all night but she understood my situation. She is white with a black dude who is so in love with her or just plain jealous, they've known each other 3 weeks it's funny because I think she likes having him on a string the guy is in his 40's doesn't work no place of his own no car and no money. She was a lot of fun in the sack and asked for zero dollars just wanted Mr. Happy. I don't want the hassle with this dude because he thinks I've been banging her from day one, but I like the idea of free p###y from a petite young girl, what do you guys think should I keep banging her or just move on? I'm not sure what he's capable of I can handle myself and since I'm mobile I can take her places to have some fun and he can't get there because the bum walks everywhere. Just need a little input. Thanks. HL29.HL, congratulations on taking advantage of the American dream in more than one way. Hat's off to you for that. I personally would be cautious if you are married and if some younger thing decides to try and black mail you. At least that would be my concern for myself in that circumstance.

I dabble in the hobby but don't do FS with the girls. I can still pick up girls at bars / grocery / haircuts as I am not married and have my own place and transporation, but I agree with statements by guys that relationships come with all sorts of extra strings attached and everyone hits dry spells. I am curious what websites people have success with on "dating sites". I have tried POF and Tinder but believe I may have exhausted all current options at this time on there or that is how it feels. Anyone have any other recommendations (excluding the sugar baby sites).

[INTravelingMan]

RO is not correct. If there is coercion that's clearly illegal. But you can create a hostile work environment which is also sexual harassment. And anybody who says consensual can also say non-consensual at a later time. That would then create the hostile work environment. And she can also say you coerced her because she did it in fear of losing her job. It will all boil down to what evidence you may have. But do you really want to risk it?

My rule is you never shit where you eat or sleep. Work is where you eat at because that is where you earn your money to eat.


IMHO if you own your business, fuck any of your workers you like so long as it's consensual and there's no coercion on your part. I used to bang the hell out of my office manager (hired her because she was really hot) and while there was some drama at the end and her husband didn't like me much, there's nothing illegal about it. Personal circumstances might make you leery, but other than that, have at it!

If you're an employee in a company then that's a whole different set of issues.

[IDigit88]

Has the hobby changed you or your tastes in any way?

It has me. I didn't used to like tattoos on a chick, but now I usually like them so long as they're plastered on a nice bod. When I first saw a shaved mound on a provider back in the 80's, I thought it was weird. Now, I love shaved and both want it and expect it. Today it's kind of rare to come across a provider who isn't shaved.I think the biggest change for me is not believing everything the provider is telling me. Don't get me wrong, there have been several over the years that I have built a bit of trust with, but for the most part anyone new I really take what they say with a lot of skepticism. Probably for the best that I'm more critical now.

[ProVid]

IMHO if you own your business, fuck any of your workers you like so long as it's consensual and there's no coercion on your part. I used to bang the hell out of my office manager (hired her because she was really hot) and while there was some drama at the end and her husband didn't like me much, there's nothing illegal about it. Personal circumstances might make you leery, but other than that, have at it!

If you're an employee in a company then that's a whole different set of issues.The coercion is implicit. If you are a superior and can affect pay, reputation, career, etc. Then you can't really have true consensus.

But what really matters is if she wants to claim it was more explicitly coercive. Which she can do at any later date. And which, if she did, would be a mess of trouble that could cost far more than the pussy was worth. Depending on the kind of work, and the prestige of the business, it could cost him everything. Even if he does beat her in court, damage would be done.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

I don't think it has changed me, but it has satisfied a lot of curiosities. And I know it has taken a long time to find providers who really understand what I'm looking for. I've learned that duos aren't all they're cracked up to be, except for one pair (in another state) who totally got inside my head and sent me into orbit.

And it's made me wish that there were more areas (or at least one closer to home) that had the kind of AMPs that they have in Dallas. On second thought, maybe it's good they're not here, because I would be broke and homeless. LOL.I agree about duos. I tried one once and it looks better on a porn video than it does in reality, at least in my one experience. I just prefer focusing on one chick at a time I guess.

[CN532]

I agree about duos. I tried one once and it looks better on a porn video than it does in reality, at least in my one experience. I just prefer focusing on one chick at a time I guess.Porn does make duos look great. The gals I was with were girl friends and there was jealousy the gal that was lesbian was the best fuck, But her girl friend got bored and move away from the bed. No double play with girls so it was disappointing.

[DrDave39]

IMHO if you own your business, fuck any of your workers you like so long as it's consensual and there's no coercion on your part. I used to bang the hell out of my office manager (hired her because she was really hot) and while there was some drama at the end and her husband didn't like me much, there's nothing illegal about it. Personal circumstances might make you leery, but other than that, have at it!

If you're an employee in a company then that's a whole different set of issues.Roger, your attorney would use the term "exposure"- if you fire that lady, don't promote her, etc. She can claim that since there was a sexual relationship it is now harassment.

A relationship is always risky legally if one party is in a position of power / authority over another.

The good dr.

[TMeister]

RO is not correct. If there is coercion that's clearly illegal. But you can create a hostile work environment which is also sexual harassment. And anybody who says consensual can also say non-consensual at a later time. That would then create the hostile work environment. And she can also say you coerced her because she did it in fear of losing her job. It will all boil down to what evidence you may have. But do you really want to risk it?

My rule is you never shit where you eat or sleep. Work is where you eat at because that is where you earn your money to eat.Not sure if you are in the legal field but I would agree with your points. Today's workplace environment is basically "zero tolerance" for any kind of sexual harassment of any form. I would say even telling a dirty joke in front of a female worker is automatic judgment for plaintiff in a lawsuit, without even putting your hands on her or making a pass or anything like that.

Banging an employee sure sounds like fun and many Penthouse Letters were written about it back in the glorious 80's, but in 2017 there is pretty much no wiggle room for that kind of thing. The pussy better be pretty damn amazing to balance out the hornet's nest of risk involved. I personally would only bang a girl from work if we were on equal level as far as position and I got plenty of written and audio recordings of her telling how much she enjoys riding my dick so I could cover my ass in case of a nasty lawsuit.

[Karmennky]

Florence cops are running a sting operation out in micro hotel tonight be careful ladies the number is 8597435062.

[TMeister]

The coercion is implicit. If you are a superior and can affect pay, reputation, career, etc. Then you can't really have true consensus.

But what really matters is if she wants to claim it was more explicitly coercive. Which she can do at any later date. And which, if she did, would be a mess of trouble that could cost far more than the pussy was worth. Depending on the kind of work, and the prestige of the business, it could cost him everything. Even if he does beat her in court, damage would be done.You pretty much nailed it. No pussy is worth all this trouble. It would have to be my ultimate dream girl with the most fantastic snappin' pussy in the history of the universe, and she'd prolly have to give me $1 million every time I fucked the pussy to cover my potential legal fees from a harassment lawsuit LOL.

[RogerOver]

I'm not a lawyer but I don't think owning your own business gives you immunity to sexual harassment lawsuits. Federal and state laws exist to protect ANY employee from sexual harassment at the workplace, regardless if it's a huge Fortune 500 company or a solo proprietorship. I'm sure being the boss of a small business gives you perks like hiring young hotties with cute tight little butts and perky racks that look good in low-cut blouses and then possibly boning them as a side bonus, but you're not immune from the law and civil suits.

Just a little FYI for all you horny mongers out there looking to sample some candy at work LOL.I did bold the consensual part. Just a couple of points. Fucking is NOT illegal. Anyone can sue anyone. I don't believe you'll have the EEO to show up to your small business if you had a consensual affair with a subordinate and later fired her for cause outside of that relationship.

[RogerOver]

RO is not correct. If there is coercion that's clearly illegal. But you can create a hostile work environment which is also sexual harassment. And anybody who says consensual can also say non-consensual at a later time. That would then create the hostile work environment. And she can also say you coerced her because she did it in fear of losing her job. It will all boil down to what evidence you may have. But do you really want to risk it?

My rule is you never shit where you eat or sleep. Work is where you eat at because that is where you earn your money to eat.Clearly, I stand corrected. I can only say I have personally done it. Not sued. No harassment charges (although I suppose she can tweet about me anytime). This was back in 2004, so things have changed I suppose. It was fun. I'd do it again.

[Twisted69]

I did bold the consensual part. Just a couple of points. Fucking is NOT illegal. Anyone can sue anyone. I don't believe you'll have the EEO to show up to your small business if you had a consensual affair with a subordinate and later fired her for cause outside of that relationship.Yes, fucking is not illegal and anyone can sue anyone! I don't think that the point was the EEO starting an investigation and making a big issue. I think the main point would be the drama from all the bad publicity to get attention (which some woman do to get their way) and the legal expense of defending yourself in a civil suit even if you are "right". Most legal fees / expenses are never returned / paid by the loser in the end. I had a personal issue outside this hobby and ended up with $65,000 in fees and won, with a judgment for incurred expenses / attorney's fees. Its been 15 years and they still have not been repaid.

[Countryboy72]

Not sure if you are in the legal field but I would agree with your points. Today's workplace environment is basically "zero tolerance" for any kind of sexual harassment of any form. I would say even telling a dirty joke in front of a female worker is automatic judgment for plaintiff in a lawsuit, without even putting your hands on her or making a pass or anything like that.

Banging an employee sure sounds like fun and many Penthouse Letters were written about it back in the glorious 80's, but in 2017 there is pretty much no wiggle room for that kind of thing. The pussy better be pretty damn amazing to balance out the hornet's nest of risk involved. I personally would only bang a girl from work if we were on equal level as far as position and I got plenty of written and audio recordings of her telling how much she enjoys riding my dick so I could cover my ass in case of a nasty lawsuit.Was that the name of the Michael Douglas movie?

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Was that the name of the Michael Douglas movie?I think it was Fatal Attraction.

[RogerOver]

Was that the name of the Michael Douglas movie?This is a pretty good one too.

Knock Knock (2015) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3605418/)

[Countryboy72]

I think it was Fatal Attraction.No the workplace sexual encounter. With Demi Moore. Fatal scared the shit out of me.

[HuntLadys29]

No the workplace sexual encounter. With Demi Moore. Fatal scared the shit out of me.It was Glen Close. Still she played the hell out of that roll, damn sure made you think. You never know what's on someone's mind. HL29.

[Dillsborodave]

I did bold the consensual part. Just a couple of points. Fucking is NOT illegal. Anyone can sue anyone. I don't believe you'll have the EEO to show up to your small business if you had a consensual affair with a subordinate and later fired her for cause outside of that relationship.If fucking is not illegal why is everyone so worried about LEO on this board?

[TMeister]

It was Glen Close. Still she played the hell out of that roll, damn sure made you think. You never know what's on someone's mind. HL29.Glenn Close was aces in that movie, suprised she didn't win the Oscar for that role. It spawned a lot of copycat movies, one with Rebecca De Mornay and the Demi Moore flick among others. Saw it many years ago when I was in my early 20's and dating a lot of "psycho" clingy girls at the time and it scared the poop out of me, mainly because it could happen to ANY man who gets a little side pussy and thinks it's going to be kept secret and then explodes into a nightmare. Think VERY carefully before plunging your Jimmy into side pussy, folks!

[CurvyChristina]

Hey Everyone, Although we had big plans for this house, although the privacy here will be hard to match, I'm throwing in the towel. Too many if, and, and buts, on the sale. So I will be moving, I don't know when yet, as usual I'll work up until moving day. I hate to leave all this privacy, however the owner used my 3 yrs of "set aside " payments, that was supposed to be used as my down payment after fullfilling the 3 yr lease. He got a sex change and new tits. I really wish I could say that's a joke or exaggerated but it's just not. Then although we have in writing the sale price, agreed upon in 2014. He's backing out that number because the market has rebounded. I'm going to court for my down payment money back, I don't think I can afford to fight him on the Price.

It will likely be in late January or February, I will be moving, so we'll make the most out that room while we have it. We'll make the next spot just as worthy no doubt. I'm sentimental though and you all helped me send my daughter to college from this home. It's the last house we was all together in, C'est la vie. I refuse to go sad though, after all I did finally find out what was going on with my body while here and finally found what I like, what I need, getting comfortable in your own skin is something you can not buy! Another mile stone right! If anyone sees any great places in passing, let me know, xoxoxo. Luv Chrissy.

[RogerOver]

If fucking is not illegal why is everyone so worried about LEO on this board?Well, I'm not really worried about LEO, but the reason many are is that paying for pussy is illegal.

[John HandCock]

It was Glen Close. Still she played the hell out of that roll, damn sure made you think. You never know what's on someone's mind. HL29.Think he meant Disclosure with Michael Douglas around 94 or so.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

All concerns about your situation aside, the bottom line is you're an older fart than me and you got to bang a 27 year old without having to pay for it! Keep us posted on how it goes.

[LuvnLivn]

It was Glen Close. Still she played the hell out of that roll, damn sure made you think. You never know what's on someone's mind. HL29.I think he's talking about "Disclosure". If my boss looked like Demi Moore and she threw herself at me like that, I'd work for free!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disclosure_(film)

[CurvyChristina]

My first time back here in a while, I search my name, some long forum comes up from today about a (Christina) how they are disappointed she raised prices, how she is so ugly in the face she could stop a clock, and is a big fat ugly beast, apparently. I immediately got on the treadmill, even though I've lost 5 pounds in the 8 days I been on new medication. And I joined a gym membership, then I responded to the thread with a (please Lord don't let this be about me) , then I realized, it's in Boston. So, a typical Chrissy move. Hello all. Happy to be saying Hello.

[CurvyChristina]

My original reason for stopping by, I don't know why the (Boston fun) posted before this one? Anyway, We are moving, I know we all absolutely love this house and the privacy will be hard to match, I know we had big plans for it, but after my 3 year agreement was fulfilled and I go for my down payment, the own was supposed to be putting aside, out of every month's rent, it was gone. I found out he is going through a transition and bought TITS, I wish I could say that's a joke or I'm exaggerating but it's not. This was going to be my (finally) house where I get to, be human in all its glory. He also is backing out the agreed upon price that's in writing. He said the market rebounded from 3 years ago. I am fighting him for my down payment in court but I don't think I can fight him on the price because he'd last longer in court than I would. So, we will find a new house in January some time, You all helped me send my daughter to college and it was from this house, the next service room will be beautiful no doubt but I'm sentimental, so we can get our time and use out this service room until the day I move. What can you do right. C'est la vie. Oh I'm surprised you all didn't crack up laughing with me on the Boston post! I was dying laughing reading those all back to back yet having a heart attack at the same time. P.S. He bought TITS! This guy bought tits with my money and I HAVEN'T even BOUGHT TITS YET. I was pissed about that.

[Twisted69]

Hey Everyone, Although we had big plans for this house, although the privacy here will be hard to match, I'm throwing in the towel. Too many if, and, and buts, on the sale. So I will be moving, I don't know when yet, as usual I'll work up until moving day. I hate to leave all this privacy, however the owner used my 3 yrs of "set aside " payments, that was supposed to be used as my down payment after fullfilling the 3 yr lease. He got a sex change and new tits. I really wish I could say that's a joke or exaggerated but it's just not. Then although we have in writing the sale price, agreed upon in 2014. He's backing out that number because the market has rebounded. I'm going to court for my down payment money back, I don't think I can afford to fight him on the Price.

It will likely be in late January or February, I will be moving, so we'll make the most out that room while we have it. We'll make the next spot just as worthy no doubt. I'm sentimental though and you all helped me send my daughter to college from this home. It's the last house we was all together in, C'est la vie. I refuse to go sad though, after all I did finally find out what was going on with my body while here and finally found what I like, what I need, getting comfortable in your own skin is something you can not buy! Another mile stone right! If anyone sees any great places in passing, let me know, xoxoxo. Luv Chrissy.If you have the agreed upon sale price in the document and there is no mention of change in price due to market influence then the sale price is set, as long as you have not violated any other stipulation in said agreement.

[CurvyChristina]

If you have the agreed upon sale price in the document and there is no mention of change in price due to market influence then the sale price is set, as long as you have not violated any other stipulation in said agreement.Yes we have it as a written option to by, I paid $1200 mnthly with $250 into a separate account for 3 yrs as the down payment. He got a facial reconstruction to make himself look more feminine, but the price we agreed on was $90 K and there was $87 K owed still on the loan, I got the loan down to $63 K and I made the last 11 months of payments directly to the bank on the house loan, I found out about him using my down payment back in June and he was suppose to put it back by 10/1/17 which was the end of my 3 yr lease. He didn't and then he said the market rebounded, we didn't say anything in the agreement about any change of price, he acted as if he just wants it out his name so he can get a sex change and legally change his name, the state wouldn't let him get a whole name change while under debts. Well he's asking $140 now because that's the going rate around me, also now that the loan is down so far, because of me making double payment to get it really low, I wouldn't of done that if I knew it wasn't going to be my loan later on. He will make close to $70 K I think it is? When it's sells for $140. So that's a lot of incentive to fight it. He has more time and money to fight it in court. I just can't afford to fight him. I'd rather fight for my down payment he used illegally, and use it as a down payment somewhere else. I'm going to make real good use of this house until I move. When I seen his boobs, I thought really? Your walking around with a 20 yr olds tits on my dime? It's such a messed up thing to do it's comical.

[RogerOver]

HL29, you do you. If she is having fun and you are having fun, then have fun. You can't worry about her and her man, that's her issue. Since he has free, live-in pussy and if he feels he is about to lose it, he may do some stupid shit. If he does, just cut her loose. Regardless of that, the real issue could be her. BE EXTRA CAREFUL!! With all the news about guys getting called out for sexual harassment, anyone who has authority has a target on their back. Watch your six.

D.


Pretty wreckless advice if you ask me. I say he needs to cut the "free pussy" deal and go back to mongering like the rest of us. Never know what a jealous bf or hubby will do if he finds out. About a dozen years ago I was banging a foot doctor hottie for a couple weeks until I hit her up on the AOL chat one night and found out it was her cop hubby answering my messages. Needless he to say, he wasn't too pleased and made some veiled threats against me. I threatened him back by claiming to copy all his messages and sending him to his commanding officer as well as the local prosecutor's office, and he agreed to "let it go" as long as I stayed away from his wife. All in all, the "free pussy" I enjoyed for a few bangs really wasn't worth that kind of hassle.Everyone seems to be taking HL29's happy dick time pretty personally. LOL. I mean, if he had not said "one of my workers" everyone here would be jumping up and down telling him to bang it like a cheap drum. Many of the cautions I'm seeing here are the same as ANY civilian pussy you get.

I'm sure he's a grown ass man and will sort it out on his own.

[GolfGuy]

Go talk to an attorney. First consultation generally is free. Talk to 3 or 4 of them if you need to.


If you have the agreed upon sale price in the document and there is no mention of change in price due to market influence then the sale price is set, as long as you have not violated any other stipulation in said agreement.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Hey Everyone, Although we had big plans for this house, although the privacy here will be hard to match, I'm throwing in the towel. Too many if, and, and buts, on the sale. So I will be moving, I don't know when yet, as usual I'll work up until moving day. I hate to leave all this privacy, however the owner used my 3 yrs of "set aside " payments, that was supposed to be used as my down payment after fullfilling the 3 yr lease. He got a sex change and new tits. I really wish I could say that's a joke or exaggerated but it's just not. Then although we have in writing the sale price, agreed upon in 2014. He's backing out that number because the market has rebounded. I'm going to court for my down payment money back, I don't think I can afford to fight him on the Price.

It will likely be in late January or February, I will be moving, so we'll make the most out that room while we have it. We'll make the next spot just as worthy no doubt. I'm sentimental though and you all helped me send my daughter to college from this home. It's the last house we was all together in, C'est la vie. I refuse to go sad though, after all I did finally find out what was going on with my body while here and finally found what I like, what I need, getting comfortable in your own skin is something you can not buy! Another mile stone right! If anyone sees any great places in passing, let me know, xoxoxo. Luv Chrissy.The bottom line is this:

If you have the deal in writing and signed by both parties, the Queen can't change it now. Period, Amen.

Get a lawyer and take him to court. Once you file the papers, he / she can't do anything to you as far as eviction.

If you don't have money for a lawyer, try one of the pro-bono organisations around town.

[DoctorAl]

The newer service "It's Just Cuddles" has been in Cincinnati I suppose for a couple of months. Interesting that reviews have not been posted, If information needs to be held close to the chest.

I would appreciate a PM. Thanks.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

The newer service "It's Just Cuddles" has been in Cincinnati I suppose for a couple of months. Interesting that reviews have not been posted, If information needs to be held close to the chest.

I would appreciate a PM. Thanks.Reviews in Columbus say you can get more than cuddles for an Upcharge, but it depends on the Cuddler.

Last review said $135 got a BBBJ with hand finish. Not sure about what the Cincy ladies offer, but there are better options around i think...

[IDigit88]

I know it's morally wrong but I really love it when I see a girl in an ad sporting a tattoo that shows that they are owned by someone I also like it when a girl has a tattoo that marks her as a prostitute.

Brandie (909) *9199 has a couple tats for pac daddie. She has one on her lower stomach that I don't get. Looks like two at symbols. Any idea what they mean.

Mya (513) *8977 has a tat that looks like "loyalty" on her shoulder. Could be wrong.

Kell? (At least that is what she used to go by (513) *4532 has a tat above her tits that says $ for love. At least it looks like it. Speaking of Kell, she's been discussed in the past, but there is something about her look that I like. Any recent intel?

Always wanted the wife to get a "property of" tat above her pussy. But she's not having any of it. LOL.

IDI.

[Strip Junkie]

I know it's morally wrong but I really love it when I see a girl in an ad sporting a tattoo that shows that they are owned by someone I also like it when a girl has a tattoo that marks her as a prostitute.

Brandie (909) *9199 has a couple tats for pac daddie. She has one on her lower stomach that I don't get. Looks like two at symbols. Any idea what they mean.

Mya (513) *8977 has a tat that looks like "loyalty" on her shoulder. Could be wrong.

Kell? (At least that is what she used to go by (513) *4532 has a tat above her tits that says $ for love. At least it looks like it. Speaking of Kell, she's been discussed in the past, but there is something about her look that I like. Any recent intel?

Always wanted the wife to get a "property of" tat above her pussy. But she's not having any of it. LOL.

IDI.I have never been a fan of tats. If a girl has more than a couple instances of artwork on her body or even just one large tat or gruesome tats of skulls, etc;, I tend to lose interest. If I met a girl who had a "Property of _ " I would probably steer clear of her too.

[Twisted69]

Go talk to an attorney. First consultation generally is free. Talk to 3 or 4 of them if you need to.The other part I forgot to add is that the money that she "paid" down the mortgage, if that was not a pre-arranged part of the agreement. That money maybe considered a gift in the eyes of the court. She really needs to seek an attorney before she loses ALL of it.

[John HandCock]

I have never been a fan of tats. If a girl has more than a couple instances of artwork on her body or even just one large tat or gruesome tats of skulls, etc;, I tend to lose interest. If I met a girl who had a "Property of _ " I would probably steer clear of her too.My ex wife has property of and my signature on her ass. I tried talking her out of it but she was insistant on getting it. I always told her if we divorced she could always draw a line through my name and put the next underneath it. Would be much like the list for the Browns quaterbacks LOL.

[Deb4512]

I went for it just recently with a client of mine who paid me once, then we flirted via texting (sexting?) on and off for 6 months. He was the one who suggested he see me for free for mutual pleasure. I was really attracted to him and was jonsing for his cock and body. Only thing is he just kept texting me without following through to fuck me. He'd say I will come over soon when I asked him about it, but he kept putting me off saying he was too busy at work and that it's hard for him to get to my place, which was around 45 min away. After talking about the great sex we were going to have and how he was going to bang me and what I planned to do with his cock I got frustrated and told him there was an expiration date for the mutual pleasure. He got upset and accused me of giving him an ultimatum to have sex with him! Actually through the months he claimed twice that I was giving him ultimatums for him to fuck me and the second time he told me when someone gives him an ultimatum to do something he does the opposite! He came over once during the summer as we were going to go to a swingers club so we were checking that out on my computer at home. I just assumed he was going to fuck me, but while we were on the computer he said that a friend of his had car trouble and he had to rescue them. I asked about the fucking and he told me he'd take a rain check! I liked chatting and sexting with him, then got bored with it and gave up. I didn't text him for over a month then he started texting me and asking me if he could come over to have sex with me. This was 6 months after we started talking about him having free sex with me! I was sore, so I told him I was too busy to have sex with him and then I started putting him off. We finally made a tentative date to have sex. This was a Wednesday and I asked him to let me know for certain on Tuesday so I wouldn't schedule any clients Wednesday. I texted him Tuesday afternoon and he said he was working on it, then I waited until 9 thirty pm, got pissed and cancelled on him. LOL. I got on him about flaking on me. Actually this was the second time he flaked on me. The first was months before he was supposed to come over on a Sunday and he said he'd text me Sunday to come over and I never heard from him. So I got on him about flaking on me twice and that it's inconvenient for me, because I turned down potential clients to have sex with him. He said he didn't need my drama. LOL I hate when guys call women drama. He said he didn't remember flaking on me the first time and the second time he accused me of cancelling on him, which was half true. He also accused me of writing him many angry texts (which was one text, but whatever) and I apologized. Anyway we finally made plans to have sex two Sundays ago. And of course I was the one who had to call him on Sunday and remind him and ask if we were still on for the sex. He finally came over, we chatting about politics and romantic relationships on my couch and our opinions on the subjects. He did get upset with me when he told me men should get maternity leave and I asked him why and he got and he said "I can see how you feel about men!" So frustrating. If men want maternity leave, fine. I just want to get laid for gosh sakes! Apparently he believes that women want more rights than men. Bla bla bla. And also got upset with me, because he thought I said men don't have any feelings. When I said men have feelings, but tend not to show them. So finally I try to make out with him and he wanted to go to the bedroom. Fine by me. We get into bed and he asks me what I want to do with his body. I asked if I could have my orgasm first, so he gave me one with my vibrator. He tried to fuck me, but my pussy is too tight and he's too big. (sigh) So basically all he wanted was me to blow him a bit, then lick his asshole and jerk him off. I tried to kiss and make out with him, but he turned his head, so no kissing. He came, then I went to hug him for a cuddle and he pushed me away to get dressed. He headed to the door and I tried to hug him and give him a peck on the lips and he turned his head and my lips hit his cheek. I texted him after he left asking him if he were uncomfortable after the sex and if so that it made me feel awkward. I also asked if he didn't want to kiss me because of bad breath? I was very flattering with his performance, making me cum and such and that I enjoyed the chatting beforehand. No response. I texted him again a week later telling him a funny story about a client not being able to find my apt door, claimed to have gotten lost and cancelled on me. No response. Then the last text was a few nights ago telling him what it was about him that I liked since he'd asked me why several times. No response. And you guys accuse women of being confusing! What's up with this guy? Unfortunately I can't find out from him, because he's gone silent on me.

[RogerOver]

I went for it just recently with a client of mine who paid me once, then we flirted via texting (sexting?) on and off for 6 months. He was the one who suggested he see me for free for mutual pleasure. I was really attracted to him and was jonsing for his cock and body. Only thing is he just kept texting me without following through to fuck me. He'd say I will come over soon when I asked him about it, but he kept putting me off saying he was too busy at work and that it's hard for him to get to my place, which was around 45 min away. After talking about the great sex we were going to have and how he was going to bang me and what I planned to do with his cock I got frustrated and told him there was an expiration date for the mutual pleasure. He got upset and accused me of giving him an ultimatum to have sex with him! Actually through the months he claimed twice that I was giving him ultimatums for him to fuck me and the second time he told me when someone gives him an ultimatum to do something he does the opposite! He came over once during the summer as we were going to go to a swingers club so we were checking that out on my computer at home. I just assumed he was going to fuck me, but while we were on the computer he said that a friend of his had car trouble and he had to rescue them. I asked about the fucking and he told me he'd take a rain check! I liked chatting and sexting with him, then got bored with it and gave up. I didn't text him for over a month then he started texting me and asking me if he could come over to have sex with me. This was 6 months after we started talking about him having free sex with me! I was sore, so I told him I was too busy to have sex with him and then I started putting him off. We finally made a tentative date to have sex. This was a Wednesday and I asked him to let me know for certain on Tuesday so I wouldn't schedule any clients Wednesday. I texted him Tuesday afternoon and he said he was working on it, then I waited until 9 thirty pm, got pissed and cancelled on him. LOL. I got on him about flaking on me. Actually this was the second time he flaked on me. The first was months before he was supposed to come over on a Sunday and he said he'd text me Sunday to come over and I never heard from him. So I got on him about flaking on me twice and that it's inconvenient for me, because I turned down potential clients to have sex with him. He said he didn't need my drama. LOL I hate when guys call women drama. He said he didn't remember flaking on me the first time and the second time he accused me of cancelling on him, which was half true. He also accused me of writing him many angry texts (which was one text, but whatever) and I apologized. Anyway we finally made plans to have sex two Sundays ago. And of course I was the one who had to call him on Sunday and remind him and ask if we were still on for the sex. He finally came over, we chatting about politics and romantic relationships on my couch and our opinions on the subjects. He did get upset with me when he told me men should get maternity leave and I asked him why and he got and he said "I can see how you feel about men!" So frustrating. If men want maternity leave, fine. I just want to get laid for gosh sakes! Apparently he believes that women want more rights than men. Bla bla bla. And also got upset with me, because he thought I said men don't have any feelings. When I said men have feelings, but tend not to show them. So finally I try to make out with him and he wanted to go to the bedroom. Fine by me. We get into bed and he asks me what I want to do with his body. I asked if I could have my orgasm first, so he gave me one with my vibrator. He tried to fuck me, but my pussy is too tight and he's too big. (sigh) So basically all he wanted was me to blow him a bit, then lick his asshole and jerk him off. I tried to kiss and make out with him, but he turned his head, so no kissing. He came, then I went to hug him for a cuddle and he pushed me away to get dressed. He headed to the door and I tried to hug him and give him a peck on the lips and he turned his head and my lips hit his cheek. I texted him after he left asking him if he were uncomfortable after the sex and if so that it made me feel awkward. I also asked if he didn't want to kiss me because of bad breath? I was very flattering with his performance, making me cum and such and that I enjoyed the chatting beforehand. No response. I texted him again a week later telling him a funny story about a client not being able to find my apt door, claimed to have gotten lost and cancelled on me. No response. Then the last text was a few nights ago telling him what it was about him that I liked since he'd asked me why several times. No response. And you guys accuse women of being confusing! What's up with this guy? Unfortunately I can't find out from him, because he's gone silent on me.Can't read it. Paragraphs sweetie. Look it up.

[CN532]

I went for it just recently with a client of mine who paid me once, then we flirted via texting (sexting?) on and off for 6 months. He was the one who suggested he see me for free for mutual pleasure. I was really attracted to him and was jonsing for his cock and body. Only thing is he just kept texting me without following through to fuck me. He'd say I will come over soon when I asked him about it, but he kept putting me off saying he was too busy at work and that it's hard for him to get to my place, which was around 45 min away. After talking about the great sex we were going to have and how he was going to bang me and what I planned to do with his cock I got frustrated and told him there was an expiration date for the mutual pleasure. He got upset and accused me of giving him an ultimatum to have sex with him! Actually through the months he claimed twice that I was giving him ultimatums for him to fuck me and the second time he told me when someone gives him an ultimatum to do something he does the opposite! He came over once during the summer as we were going to go to a swingers club so we were checking that out on my computer at home. I just assumed he was going to fuck me, but while we were on the computer he said that a friend of his had car trouble and he had to rescue them. I asked about the fucking and he told me he'd take a rain check! I liked chatting and sexting with him, then got bored with it and gave up. I didn't text him for over a month then he started texting me and asking me if he could come over to have sex with me. This was 6 months after we started talking about him having free sex with me! I was sore, so I told him I was too busy to have sex with him and then I started putting him off. We finally made a tentative date to have sex. This was a Wednesday and I asked him to let me know for certain on Tuesday so I wouldn't schedule any clients Wednesday. I texted him Tuesday afternoon and he said he was working on it, then I waited until 9 thirty pm, got pissed and cancelled on him. LOL. I got on him about flaking on me. Actually this was the second time he flaked on me. The first was months before he was supposed to come over on a Sunday and he said he'd text me Sunday to come over and I never heard from him. So I got on him about flaking on me twice and that it's inconvenient for me, because I turned down potential clients to have sex with him. He said he didn't need my drama. LOL I hate when guys call women drama. He said he didn't remember flaking on me the first time and the second time he accused me of cancelling on him, which was half true. He also accused me of writing him many angry texts (which was one text, but whatever) and I apologized. Anyway we finally made plans to have sex two Sundays ago..What is this all about.

[Member #6431]

What is this all about.I believe its a legitimate, sexually frustrated rant.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

I believe its a legitimate, sexually frustrated rant.If she is that frustrated, I am sure that some gentlemen here will volunteer to help her with her frustrations, for free!

(Waving hand to volunteer.).

[LuvnLivn]

If she is that frustrated, I am sure that some gentlemen here will volunteer to help her with her frustrations, for free!

(Waving hand to volunteer.).I already sent her a PM, mainly to ask who she is. And I also offered to volunteer my charm and good looks to help her forget her troubles LOL. Problem is, she's in Boston. Which explains why I hadn't heard of her.

LL.

[Deb4512]

So let me clarify something. The guy lives 40 min away, has paid me once and then for months on end says he's going to fuck me for free soon and it takes him months to get over to me for the free sex. He says he works a lot and is very busy. If you worked a lot would you be able to find time to fuck for free? This guy confuses the hell out of me. He finally contacted me today and we've been talking about doing webcam work where I will suck his dick and we both make money. I wonder if he can find time in his schedule for that? LOL Is there something wrong with this guy?

[ChloeStarr]

I already sent her a PM, mainly to ask who she is. And I also offered to volunteer my charm and good looks to help her forget her troubles LOL. Problem is, she's in Boston. Which explains why I hadn't heard of her.

LL.In was curious as well and if you look thru her posts you will be lucky enough to find a post with several pics of her and get a sense of who she is. I also noticed she was in. Boston but posts in Cindy some times. Guess she likes Cincy.

[HuntLadys29]

Has given her rants & raves before on our forum. Seems she likes us here in the Nati. She's cool as far as I can tell, and I'd love to fuck her for free, and I'd drop coin to fuck her. As far as this workaholic who can't find time to fuck her for free well shame on him. I think I got all the free pussy conversation started, so Deb if you're ever in the greater Cincinnati area shoot me a PM I love pussy free or pay. As for my little co worker I've fucked her 2 more times I can't help it. I don't have money or even a reputation to tarnish, I'm just an old working man. If she's using me or setting me up for something I'm very confused on what she'll get. So I'm going to ride this train till one or both of us are tired of it and move on no hard feelings. No offense but I'd like to see some of you guys get on moral high ground if she's standing in front of you at 5 ft 4 inches 117 lbs butt naked wanting to suck your dick and bang you. Push her away I think not. HL29.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

A couple things about the current video controversy. I was kind of freaked out at first when I saw the post about Chloe having a video doorbell. But I've seen Chloe a couple times and I think it is highly unlikely she is keeping the images or that she is using the doorbell for anything other than personal safety. Her street is nice, but she is close to a crappy neighborhood.

And guys, if you've been doing this for any length of time, you have probably already been on candid camera at some point. About 6-7 years ago when I was lurking here but didn't have an account, I overheard a guy saying he and his neighbors were recording dudes coming and going from a residence on their street where a provider had set up shop. I was certain I knew which provider based on reports here. It wouldn't have done any good for me to set up an account and post something here, as the provider quit advertising right after I overheard this (and who would have believed me anyway, with only one post to my name). In any case, I believed the guy I overheard was telling the truth.

Video is just one of many risks we take in the hobby.

[LuvnLivn]

A couple things about the current video controversy. I was kind of freaked out at first when I saw the post about Chloe having a video doorbell. But I've seen Chloe a couple times and I think it is highly unlikely she is keeping the images or that she is using the doorbell for anything other than personal safety. Her street is nice, but she is close to a crappy neighborhood.

And guys, if you've been doing this for any length of time, you have probably already been on candid camera at some point. About 6-7 years ago when I was lurking here but didn't have an account, I overheard a guy saying he and his neighbors were recording dudes coming and going from a residence on their street where a provider had set up shop. I was certain I knew which provider based on reports here. It wouldn't have done any good for me to set up an account and post something here, as the provider quit advertising right after I overheard this (and who would have believed me anyway, with only one post to my name). In any case, I believed the guy I overheard was telling the truth.

Video is just one of many risks we take in the hobby.I agree. And as far as Chloe goes, if she were collecting images for some nefarious scheme, she would insist that everyone ring the doorbell when they arrive. I didn't even realize she had one because she has always met me at the door after I text her upon arrival. Although maybe she SHOULD insist, for safety's sake.

I touched on this subject awhile back when a provider told me the camera in her Samsung smart TV had been hacked into. So who knows? Maybe my bare ass will end up on Pornhub. I've been looking but there are so many guys on there with a mole on there ass in the same spot as mine LOL. Cameras are pretty much everywhere now that they are so cheap and discreet. Unless someone has a reason to f**k with you, I think the odds of any of us getting in trouble because of them are pretty slim. I agree with UOLO. It's no more risky than anything else we do in this hobby.

Just my take.

LuvnLivn.

[John HandCock]

So let me clarify something. The guy lives 40 min away, has paid me once and then for months on end says he's going to fuck me for free soon and it takes him months to get over to me for the free sex. He says he works a lot and is very busy. If you worked a lot would you be able to find time to fuck for free? This guy confuses the hell out of me. He finally contacted me today and we've been talking about doing webcam work where I will suck his dick and we both make money. I wonder if he can find time in his schedule for that? LOL Is there something wrong with this guy?Something wrong with both of ya. Him for wasting your time and you for not shutting this down long ago. Apparently you both like this back and forth.

[MVD212]

Has given her rants & raves before on our forum. Seems she likes us here in the Nati. She's cool as far as I can tell, and I'd love to fuck her for free, and I'd drop coin to fuck her. As far as this workaholic who can't find time to fuck her for free well shame on him. I think I got all the free pussy conversation started, so Deb if you're ever in the greater Cincinnati area shoot me a PM I love pussy free or pay. As for my little co worker I've fucked her 2 more times I can't help it. I don't have money or even a reputation to tarnish, I'm just an old working man. If she's using me or setting me up for something I'm very confused on what she'll get. So I'm going to ride this train till one or both of us are tired of it and move on no hard feelings. No offense but I'd like to see some of you guys get on moral high ground if she's standing in front of you at 5 ft 4 inches 117 lbs butt naked wanting to suck your dick and bang you. Push her away I think not. HL29.Dude, smash away. You got my vote.

[Member #6431]

Has given her rants & raves before on our forum. Seems she likes us here in the Nati. She's cool as far as I can tell, and I'd love to fuck her for free, and I'd drop coin to fuck her. As far as this workaholic who can't find time to fuck her for free well shame on him. I think I got all the free pussy conversation started, so Deb if you're ever in the greater Cincinnati area shoot me a PM I love pussy free or pay. As for my little co worker I've fucked her 2 more times I can't help it. I don't have money or even a reputation to tarnish, I'm just an old working man. If she's using me or setting me up for something I'm very confused on what she'll get. So I'm going to ride this train till one or both of us are tired of it and move on no hard feelings. No offense but I'd like to see some of you guys get on moral high ground if she's standing in front of you at 5 ft 4 inches 117 lbs butt naked wanting to suck your dick and bang you. Push her away I think not. HL29.The only difference is that she works for you. So when you do anything she doesn't like, your career is in Alex Trebek mode. She can use whatever advantages she gained as proof and whatever happens afterwards. You're in a no win situation unless you stick with this for the long haul, and don't push her ass away when she gets crazy and wants more from you besides sex.

[Simp4ebony]

Diamond used my review in her latest ad! I feel famous now! LOL.

http://cincinnati.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/513-349-8332/54905522

[HuntLadys29]

The only difference is that she works for you. So when you do anything she doesn't like, your career is in Alex Trebek mode. She can use whatever advantages she gained as proof and whatever happens afterwards. You're in a no win situation unless you stick with this for the long haul, and don't push her ass away when she gets crazy and wants more from you besides sex.Unless you know about a hidden treasure that I have hidden somewhere, then there's nothing she can get from me. Some dick a sandwich maybe a couple bucks here and there, and that's no problem I buy pussy all the time. It's not like I'm some big time CEO. This girl is 27 years old I have no future with her and she knows that. We work in a very public place some young guy who has some sense will eventually scoop her up and we will move on. Painting a picture of gloom and doom because we decided to rub toes is crazy. If this girl goes crazy over me then she is crazy cause I ain't all that. HL29.

[BengalMan]

Unless you know about a hidden treasure that I have hidden somewhere, then there's nothing she can get from me. Some dick a sandwich maybe a couple bucks here and there, and that's no problem I buy pussy all the time. It's not like I'm some big time CEO. This girl is 27 years old I have no future with her and she knows that. We work in a very public place some young guy who has some sense will eventually scoop her up and we will move on. Painting a picture of gloom and doom because we decided to rub toes is crazy. If this girl goes crazy over me then she is crazy cause I ain't all that. HL29.You have some-thing going for you, not everybody can get young pussy for free, and repeat.

Impressive no matter what.

You got bigger balls or longer dick than me.

[RogerOver]

A couple things about the current video controversy. I was kind of freaked out at first when I saw the post about Chloe having a video doorbell. But I've seen Chloe a couple times and I think it is highly unlikely she is keeping the images or that she is using the doorbell for anything other than personal safety. Her street is nice, but she is close to a crappy neighborhood.

And guys, if you've been doing this for any length of time, you have probably already been on candid camera at some point. About 6-7 years ago when I was lurking here but didn't have an account, I overheard a guy saying he and his neighbors were recording dudes coming and going from a residence on their street where a provider had set up shop. I was certain I knew which provider based on reports here. It wouldn't have done any good for me to set up an account and post something here, as the provider quit advertising right after I overheard this (and who would have believed me anyway, with only one post to my name). In any case, I believed the guy I overheard was telling the truth.

Video is just one of many risks we take in the hobby.


I agree. And as far as Chloe goes, if she were collecting images for some nefarious scheme, she would insist that everyone ring the doorbell when they arrive. I didn't even realize she had one because she has always met me at the door after I text her upon arrival. Although maybe she SHOULD insist, for safety's sake.

I touched on this subject awhile back when a provider told me the camera in her Samsung smart TV had been hacked into. So who knows? Maybe my bare ass will end up on Pornhub. I've been looking but there are so many guys on there with a mole on there ass in the same spot as mine LOL. Cameras are pretty much everywhere now that they are so cheap and discreet. Unless someone has a reason to f**k with you, I think the odds of any of us getting in trouble because of them are pretty slim. I agree with UOLO. It's no more risky than anything else we do in this hobby.

Just my take.

LuvnLivn.I've been on the road and haven't had time to catch up, but I did not intend to start a controversy. I meant to acknowledge there's a doorbell with video. I clearly didn't care since I saw it once and still went back again. I always ask for details around here and thought the info would matter to others. I Didn't imply or think anything nefarious was going on.

Like Molly said, you're being recorded nearly every time you go to a hotel incall, and Chloe has never set off my spider sense. I still think it was worth mentioning though just because it's a thing we all like to know.

Anyway, that all escalated quickly. Not trying to kick it off again, just clarifying.

[RogerOver]

Diamond used my review in her latest ad! I feel famous now! LOL.

http://cincinnati.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/513-349-8332/54905522Get her to review you! That's the holy grail! LOL.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Unless you know about a hidden treasure that I have hidden somewhere, then there's nothing she can get from me. Some dick a sandwich maybe a couple bucks here and there, and that's no problem I buy pussy all the time. It's not like I'm some big time CEO. This girl is 27 years old I have no future with her and she knows that. We work in a very public place some young guy who has some sense will eventually scoop her up and we will move on. Painting a picture of gloom and doom because we decided to rub toes is crazy. If this girl goes crazy over me then she is crazy cause I ain't all that. HL29.HL,

I have followed your posts for years and would have never thought you would be so much of a horn dog to shit in your own doghouse.

As someone who was once accused of harassment, I know it ain't fun. Like in your case, the lady was not a subordinate. She got offended by things I said in a public bar. I did realize that I had overstepped the bounds and did apologize the next day. She still filed a complaint.

The fact that she:

1.) could have left the bar.

2.) was accepting drinks that I purchased for her and others.

3.) was not someone that I directly supervised and had no influence on her possible career.

4.) she never complained about the activity while it was happening.

5.) did accept, though she said under duress, my apology, gave her no leg to stand on.

I have had over the years one or two mistresses at work. Never were they subordinate to me. Never could I have affected their career. All were and are now after MANY years women who actually like / love me even to this day. The BCD activities happened after a lot of back and forth, kidding, flirting and knowing each other as friends first, lovers second.

Good luck to you. May the force be with you and hopefully you won't get a light saber up your ass, which could cut off your dick for the future.

Dude, more power to you if you can maintain an adult, sexual, non-vindictive relationship with a 20 something, but the odds are against it really lasting.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Quoted me 250 but not a clock watcher. I passed.

QUOTE=JLZ61;3661652]Contacted her from USASG. Decent in looks and body. But still soccer mom-ish. Smart. Good conversation. Her hubby loves that she does this. He actually dropped her off.

Far too long ago for me to remember the rate. Sorry.If $250 an hour is too much, then keep calling the BP ads or Craigslist. Be the third, fourth or seventh guy she sees that day. Be the second or third run to the dealer for her fix. With Suzie you might. Underscore might. Be the only one for the day, and it is because she truly likes sex and figures "WTF, I guess can pay for a Christmas present or two while cumming twice. " From my past experience with Suzie you probably are at the worst only the second of the day.

I have been doing the Hobby too long. I remember when NO ONE offered Half Hours, let alone QVs. Quality talent gives more value than what you pay in price. I last saw Suzie in '14. It has been so long, I don't remember what I paid. I can tell you she was worth every penny I spent. She was so stringent in screening that we first met at a bar and then went from there. I guess I passed the "meet for drinks" test because I saw her probably 7 times and each time was fantastic. Never a clock watcher. Treated me like a king. Always offered two pops. She is not a twenty-something, but that brings a certain sense of sexuality that only a woman who really understands her own body AND yours can bring to the bed.

Suzie, if you read this, I hope you remember Profromdover / Willy Loman / BTBear fondly. It isn't your rate that keeps me away. I just really don't have the time. You are / were great.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

We all like to keep some communications private, but why in the fuck can't we all keep our PM inbox clean enough to get messages?

I think it is because of one of the following:

A.) You aren't on the board enough that whether you get PMs really matter. If that is the case, quit fucking posting incomplete shit. PMs are sent because YOU left out info that people want / need.

B.) You are an idiot and think you are above answering PMs even from Senior Members, even though many of you newbies aren't Seniors.

C.) You are just a douche who likes to read his own posts and then not deal with PMs about the nuggets of wisdom or should I say BS that those posts include or the drama they cause.

D.) You actually have some information that a lot of guys want to get, then quit being such a ho-hog and answer the PMs or actually put the information that everyone wants in your original post. Ad link. Phone number. You know what guys are asking for, is it such a state secret you can't post it in the public view? Or do you think that you are such a great cocksman (another word for Dick) that you only want to brag about your abilities. These guys are the ones who always post a review about a UTR that they can't or won't support with contact info. UTR reviews are like days without sunshine, they are just blah BS for the gratification of others.

I posted this with sarcasm and some snarkiness that should not be attacked since this is after all the Octagon.

[RogerOver]

I don't know why some guys leave to head to an Incall location without an exact address. When I am told to go to some generic location and wait for further instructions, I just say that I don't do that. It's not Mission: Impossible where you have to go to certain stops. If they insist, I just say, "It's not going to work. I am calling someone else. ". You have the power of the cash, and with it comes the "No BS leverage". Use it.This is EXACTLY right. And once you get an address and show up, don't wait more than 10 min, and that's generous. There's plenty of decent girls, whether UTR or on USASG that will take care of you without all the bullshit.

[Dlr1421]

I passed because the face pic she sent me didn't really do anything for me. Different strokes for different folks. I was only trying to answer a question that someone asked. I thought that was what this forun was for?


If $250 an hour is too much, then keep calling the BP ads or Craigslist. Be the third, fourth or seventh guy she sees that day. Be the second or third run to the dealer for her fix. With Suzie you might. Underscore might. Be the only one for the day, and it is because she truly likes sex and figures "WTF, I guess can pay for a Christmas present or two while cumming twice. " From my past experience with Suzie you probably are at the worst only the second of the day.

I have been doing the Hobby too long. I remember when NO ONE offered Half Hours, let alone QVs. Quality talent gives more value than what you pay in price. I last saw Suzie in '14. It has been so long, I don't remember what I paid. I can tell you she was worth every penny I spent. She was so stringent in screening that we first met at a bar and then went from there. I guess I passed the "meet for drinks" test because I saw her probably 7 times and each time was fantastic. Never a clock watcher. Treated me like a king. Always offered two pops. She is not a twenty-something, but that brings a certain sense of sexuality that only a woman who really understands her own body AND yours can bring to the bed.

Suzie, if you read this, I hope you remember Profromdover / Willy Loman / BTBear fondly. It isn't your rate that keeps me away. I just really don't have the time. You are / were great.

[LuvnLivn]

This is EXACTLY right. And once you get an address and show up, don't wait more than 10 min, and that's generous. There's plenty of decent girls, whether UTR or on USASG that will take care of you without all the bullshit.Yes there are plenty of UTR or USASG girls who don't play games. And I didn't think this one would either based on a recent rave review by a senior member. He has since posted a second one so I'm sure she is great. But where I screwed up was asking two questions in the same text message. Her age and her address. Not all, but some of the girls can't seem to handle that. She was getting in the shower so I thought she'd send the address afterward. Considering the review, I had no reason to think she wouldn't. Lesson learned.

LL.

[DaddioDoc]

Hey Bear,

We've gotten on pretty well and I'm not trying to change that, but. I remember many years ago I joined USASG (under a different ID) and the 1st review I posted got pretty well lambasted by several "seniors". They didn't even attempt to be polite or constructive about it, just basically told me that my review was shit. As a newbie, it really made me not feel all that comfortable posting. Kind of felt like I was infringing on a good ole boy network or something. It was a few years later before I came back to try again. So I'm just sayin'. I didn't see anything in Dlr1421's post that put the lady in question down, he just stated that he wasn't into paying that kind of money for it. I have more than enough money to spend on the hobby, and to be honest I see very few providers in the Cincy area that I consider worth that. Maybe it wasn't your intention to come off that way, but he looks fairly new, and the more posters we get, the better. Let's not chase them off.


If $250 an hour is too much, then keep calling the BP ads or Craigslist. Be the third, fourth or seventh guy she sees that day. Be the second or third run to the dealer for her fix. With Suzie you might. Underscore might. Be the only one for the day, and it is because she truly likes sex and figures "WTF, I guess can pay for a Christmas present or two while cumming twice. " From my past experience with Suzie you probably are at the worst only the second of the day.

I have been doing the Hobby too long. I remember when NO ONE offered Half Hours, let alone QVs. Quality talent gives more value than what you pay in price. I last saw Suzie in '14. It has been so long, I don't remember what I paid. I can tell you she was worth every penny I spent. She was so stringent in screening that we first met at a bar and then went from there. I guess I passed the "meet for drinks" test because I saw her probably 7 times and each time was fantastic. Never a clock watcher. Treated me like a king. Always offered two pops. She is not a twenty-something, but that brings a certain sense of sexuality that only a woman who really understands her own body AND yours can bring to the bed.

Suzie, if you read this, I hope you remember Profromdover / Willy Loman / BTBear fondly. It isn't your rate that keeps me away. I just really don't have the time. You are / were great.

[RogerOver]

Yes there are plenty of UTR or USASG girls who don't play games. And I didn't think this one would either based on a recent rave review by a senior member. He has since posted a second one so I'm sure she is great. But where I screwed up was asking two questions in the same text message. Her age and her address. Not all, but some of the girls can't seem to handle that. She was getting in the shower so I thought she'd send the address afterward. Considering the review, I had no reason to think she wouldn't. Lesson learned.

LL.Ha! I have learned to keep the questions to one at a time. A lot of these young chicks can't deal with a paragraph or more than a single line of text.

[Cincyfunguy]

Merry Christmas, everyone, and don't forget to leave the cookies and MILF out for Santa!

CFG.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Hey Bear,

We've gotten on pretty well and I'm not trying to change that, but. I remember many years ago I joined USASG (under a different ID) and the 1st review I posted got pretty well lambasted by several "seniors". They didn't even attempt to be polite or constructive about it, just basically told me that my review was shit. As a newbie, it really made me not feel all that comfortable posting. Kind of felt like I was infringing on a good ole boy network or something. It was a few years later before I came back to try again. So I'm just sayin'. I didn't see anything in Dlr1421's post that put the lady in question down, he just stated that he wasn't into paying that kind of money for it. I have more than enough money to spend on the hobby, and to be honest I see very few providers in the Cincy area that I consider worth that. Maybe it wasn't your intention to come off that way, but he looks fairly new, and the more posters we get, the better. Let's not chase them off.I guess I over reacted and did not mean the reply to be as sarcastic as it turned out. Everyone has their budget. But to me a public statement about a provider's rate being too high is unnecessary. Some can only afford a Quarter-Pounder, while others think nothing about spending $60+ for a steak at a Ruby's Steakhouse. I think that many of the providers open themselves up to criticism and bottom feeders by not posting a rate for "their time. " I have a budget. I don't knowingly contact any woman outside of my budget. Just like I wouldn't ask for that steak at Ruby's for $40. Negotiating wastes time for both parties. My simple reply to the woman who did not post her rate in her ad, when the woman's reply about her rate is too high is always, "Thank you for your swift reply, but you are outside of my hobby budget. Have a nice day. " Some come back with a "Well, what is your budget?" That reply always makes me go "Hmmm". If I tell her and she accepts, I am always skeptical about the "value" I will get when a woman is so willing to negotiate. Will I get the same value from a lady who is willing to cut her $350 rate down almost 50% so quickly?

If you talk with any of the women you see, they will you privately tell you that the rate of hagglers and bottom feeders has increased since BP has changed their ad format. And these "gentlemen" are asking more and more about activities that they will get for the money. For most of the ladies these are both things that screams LEO and will generally get them ignored in the future.

Bottom line to this long post is, I am sorry that I came down too hard on the original poster.

[Admin2]

I guess I over reacted and did not mean the reply to be as sarcastic as it turned out. Everyone has their budget. But to me a public statement about a provider's rate being too high is unnecessary.Only if you're white knighting her.

Every time you put up a post where you're saying a guy is wrong and the chick is right you're white knighting. Don't do it. You can review the chick, if you think she's worth 250 then say so, don't attack his to say so, just say so.

A2

[RogerOver]

I passed because the face pic she sent me didn't really do anything for me. Different strokes for different folks. I was only trying to answer a question that someone asked. I thought that was what this forun was for?And that is exactly what the forum is for. I appreciate the intel because I don't want to waste any time pursuing a chick asking $250 if I'm not going to like the way she looks.

Got a great quote in a PM the other day:

Far too many guys on here would fuck a pig, in a pigsty, and write a glowing, wonderful review.

That is a true statement, and it's why we often wind up somewhere we don't want to be. I'm not saying Soccer Mom reflects that remark, but it's not a negative to say she's not your type, and there's no call for a bunch of finger-wagging over it.

[Glockman]

From Nicole, Manda and Glockman. Merry Christmas to all the monger and providers in the Queen City from the City On The Bluff.

[RogerOver]

Suzie, if you read this, I hope you remember Profromdover / Willy Loman / BTBear fondly. It isn't your rate that keeps me away. I just really don't have the time. You are / were great.Dude, she most likely doesn't remember you at all.

[DaddioDoc]

It's all good Bear. Like I said, you always came off as a good dude. The post just kind of brought back memories of my experience that made me leave the site for awhile. Not because my feelings are easily hurt, hell I've been married with children for 37+ years, I don't think I have any feelings left to hurt. More just thinking about trying to keep posters who are willing to share around. You do make valid points.


I guess I over reacted and did not mean the reply to be as sarcastic as it turned out. Everyone has their budget. But to me a public statement about a provider's rate being too high is unnecessary. Some can only afford a Quarter-Pounder, while others think nothing about spending $60+ for a steak at a Ruby's Steakhouse. I think that many of the providers open themselves up to criticism and bottom feeders by not posting a rate for "their time. " I have a budget. I don't knowingly contact any woman outside of my budget. Just like I wouldn't ask for that steak at Ruby's for $40. Negotiating wastes time for both parties. My simple reply to the woman who did not post her rate in her ad, when the woman's reply about her rate is too high is always, "Thank you for your swift reply, but you are outside of my hobby budget. Have a nice day. " Some come back with a "Well, what is your budget?" That reply always makes me go "Hmmm". If I tell her and she accepts, I am always skeptical about the "value" I will get when a woman is so willing to negotiate. Will I get the same value from a lady who is willing to cut her $350 rate down almost 50% so quickly?

If you talk with any of the women you see, they will you privately tell you that the rate of hagglers and bottom feeders has increased since BP has changed their ad format. And these "gentlemen" are asking more and more about activities that they will get for the money. For most of the ladies these are both things that screams LEO and will generally get them ignored in the future.

Bottom line to this long post is, I am sorry that I came down too hard on the original poster.

[AlfReady]

It's all good Bear. Like I said, you always came off as a good dude. The post just kind of brought back memories of my experience that made me leave the site for awhile. Not because my feelings are easily hurt, hell I've been married with children for 37+ years, I don't think I have any feelings left to hurt. More just thinking about trying to keep posters who are willing to share around. You do make valid points.Not me. If she is asking it's because she is still hoping to do business.

I've been free to say what I think 'market value' or what my budget is and doubt she's going to give me 50% less service.

[Ceenote]

Saw these 2 on CL.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/crs/d/come-let-us-help-you-warm-up/6441523215.html

Emailed and got quick responses,but no reviews and no references, and I am just not the TOFTT type unless I can get more info. They sent me 2 pics.

4 handed massage is a bucket list item that I've yet to fulfill.

I directed them to the USAAC site. We'll see if they go there.Perhaps I have been doing things wrong because I have only invited providers to advertise on USAAC once I know that their level of service matches the expectations of the members here. There has been enough riff raff that has found their way here, particularly since the changes made by BP, without extending invitations to unknown parties who are currently advertising on CL.

[D Nut]

Saw these 2 on CL.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/crs/d/come-let-us-help-you-warm-up/6441523215.html

Emailed and got quick responses, but no reviews and no references, and I am just not the TOFTT type unless I can get more info. They sent me 2 pics.

4 handed massage is a bucket list item that I've yet to fulfill.

I directed them to the USAAC site. We'll see if they go there.
Perhaps I have been doing things wrong because I have only invited providers to advertise on USAAC once I know that their level of service matches the expectations of the members here. There has been enough riff raff that has found their way here, particularly since the changes made by BP, without extending invitations to unknown parties who are currently advertising on CL.As much as I can sympathize with Ceenote with trying to keep the standard high on USAAC, it is also the revenue generating site that keeps this board free for us mongers. The advertisers pay to be on there, and those fees is what enables A2 and the gang to keep the lights on here.

It's a double edged sword and you have to take the bad with the good. Do your homework, report bad experiences, and together we can minimize the risk of a bad session.

We aren't charging the chicks on the USAAC at this time.

A2

[GMichael]

This site is great. It's very insightful and I believe it helps us all avoid uncle LEO. My MAIN worry is catching something. I've been wondering how this site would handle the report of "I caught this from this provider"? There's no way to prove it. It's just an accusation.

It's a duel edged sword. It could be necessary info to pass on but if false could really ruin a providers reputation.

[TMeister]

This site is great. It's very insightful and I believe it helps us all avoid uncle LEO. My MAIN worry is catching something. I've been wondering how this site would handle the report of "I caught this from this provider"? There's no way to prove it. It's just an accusation.

It's a duel edged sword. It could be necessary info to pass on but if false could really ruin a providers reputation.I agree that's it's a touchy subject and it's not fair to ruin a girl's reputation based on alleged information.

However, I think it's probably worthwhile to report on a girl who is blatantly spreading an STD in the interests of public health. I got a nasty burner from a gal in Detroit a couple years ago and I was miserable for 3 weeks while being treated with antibiotics. Pissing razor blades can only begin to describe the pain I was in. If anything, I felt like I could help other mongers avoid the miserable experience I was going through.

It's a really tricky subject and there are no perfect answers. Lots of shades of gray when it comes to this issue!

[CincyHobbist]

This site is great. It's very insightful and I believe it helps us all avoid uncle LEO. My MAIN worry is catching something. I've been wondering how this site would handle the report of "I caught this from this provider"? There's no way to prove it. It's just an accusation.

It's a duel edged sword. It could be necessary info to pass on but if false could really ruin a providers reputation.A monger had a reaction to something, shortly after seeing a new playmate. Got all spastic and put it out there. Then posted a recant after seeing a doctor.

[Admin2]

This site is great. It's very insightful and I believe it helps us all avoid uncle LEO. My MAIN worry is catching something. I've been wondering how this site would handle the report of "I caught this from this provider"? There's no way to prove it. It's just an accusation.

It's a duel edged sword. It could be necessary info to pass on but if false could really ruin a providers reputation.This is in blue, it's me the admin talking

After careful consideration and after deleting countless "oh my god I made a mistake I didn't get it from her" and even more obvious revenge postings Jax decided that the only STD report members can post are those that can be backed up with an internet available public record.

In almost every state now when chicks get busted and convicted for prostitution part of the sentence involves screening. They draw blood, and screen for STD's, if they have one of the majors (HIV, HEP whatever) they are advised, given services and told that if they are busted for prostitution again it will be for a greater charge (what it's called depends on the state) which will be a felony.

If there is a chick who is CONVICTED of that greater felony you can post that info along with a link to the CONVICTION (public record) you cannot post if they are charged because many d-bag prosecutors CHARGE lots of chicks with that but then when they review the charges they find that the were not tested and the charge is amended.

If a chick is CONVICTED it's more than reasonably sure she has whatever it says.

We did this because 99.999999% of the times guys said "I know Rosemary Rottencrotch gave me this, it could only be her" just to turn out she didn't or he was getting even because he didn't like her.

A2

[RogerOver]

I get my viagra from the VA hospital. I get 12 tablets the doctor told me just cut them in half a whole one is a waste I've been getting them since 2008 at no cost to me 24 doses will last me 3 months when my next 12 get mailed to me at no cost. If you're a vet go see them. I've heard the ones coming from out of the country that are ordered on line don't always work. I don't know if that's true but the ones I get have never failed to work. I get erections like I did 30-40 years ago that along with my vast experience in pleasuring ladies allow for some great experiences especially with the right lady or ladies. If you need more info just pm me. AND NO I'M NOT SELLING THEM OR GIVING THEM AWAY. HL29.Not about viagra, but I just want to highlight what HL29 said. If you're a vet you REALLY need to look into the VA for your health needs. Once you're in, you don't have to mess with any additional paperwork. I know some areas get a bad rap, but seriously I get better care from the VA than from civilian counterparts, which is why I go to them instead. It surprises me how few vets know about it. PM me if you need any links.

And now I know they will hand out viagra too. LOL.

[Scup1958]

I agree about duos. I tried one once and it looks better on a porn video than it does in reality, at least in my one experience. I just prefer focusing on one chick at a time I guess.The first couple of duos that I had were no better than a typical one on one. But the most recent one, I finished with one girl sucking and licking the tip and stroking the shaft while the other girl sucked and licked my balls and scrotum. That was one special finish.

[RogerOver]

The first couple of duos that I had were no better than a typical one on one. But the most recent one, I finished with one girl sucking and licking the tip and stroking the shaft while the other girl sucked and licked my balls and scrotum. That was one special finish.Completely agree. There are some that are exactly what you want, but nothing I've seen locally. Best duo I ever saw was in Vegas circa 2006 or 07. Vodka, Adderall, Cialis and three hookers in a Vegas suite. Loved stepping over those naked bodies the next day. Lots of money though.

[CN532]

The first couple of duos that I had were no better than a typical one on one. But the most recent one, I finished with one girl sucking and licking the tip and stroking the shaft while the other girl sucked and licked my balls and scrotum. That was one special finish.My experience was the gals were dating each other. One bi-sexual other lesbian. They starting kissing and I thought it was working, one gal fucking and other I was sucking her pussy. It was niece but than the one gal got of my dick and disinterested and the lesbian fuck me so damm good but couldn't get her cell. Go figure some good and some not so good lost the spirit of the duo. It usually looks on porn that the gals get along and is damm hotter than all get out.

[TMeister]

Not about viagra, but I just want to highlight what HL29 said. If you're a vet you REALLY need to look into the VA for your health needs. Once you're in, you don't have to mess with any additional paperwork. I know some areas get a bad rap, but seriously I get better care from the VA than from civilian counterparts, which is why I go to them instead. It surprises me how few vets know about it. PM me if you need any links.

And now I know they will hand out viagra too. LOL.I'm a hard-working American taxpayer and I got no problem with paying for healthcare for wounded vets, esp. If the healthcare is for an injury or chronic problem related to military service.

However, I got a lot of problems with using tax money to pay for "boner pills" so that a 70 yr. Old vet can visit working girls to get his Jollies. I would think most Americans would agree with me on that.

[TMeister]

The first couple of duos that I had were no better than a typical one on one. But the most recent one, I finished with one girl sucking and licking the tip and stroking the shaft while the other girl sucked and licked my balls and scrotum. That was one special finish.Mind telling us who that duo was? Because it sounds worth the money LOL.

I've only had one duo in my whole life and it was kind of a letdown. It was strictly BBBJ and one girl did about 90% of the slurping while the other girl was not really into it at all and mostly spectated. The whole turn-on of a duo is that two cute honeys are fighting over your dick and eagerly share in the cum explosion or argue heatedly over who gets to chug it.

[DrDave39]

Completely agree. There are some that are exactly what you want, but nothing I've seen locally. Best duo I ever saw was in Vegas circa 2006 or 07. Vodka, Adderall, Cialis and three hookers in a Vegas suite. Loved stepping over those naked bodies the next day. Lots of money though.Pounding Cupcake doggy while Sasha did a world class rimmer. Damn I miss them.

[HuntLadys29]

I'm a hard-working American taxpayer and I got no problem with paying for healthcare for wounded vets, esp. If the healthcare is for an injury or chronic problem related to military service.

However, I got a lot of problems with using tax money to pay for "boner pills" so that a 70 yr. Old vet can visit working girls to get his Jollies. I would think most Americans would agree with me on that.I served my country I got out with an honorable discharge I went to the Persian gulf I spent time away from my family and put up with and did things someone who hasn't served could never dream of so don't tell me what I deserve and don't deserve. I also had to have my primary care physician prescribe them after I had a serious medical condition. So don't think I went and made up a story to get them. And you have a lot of nerve talking about who an old vet is banging and you're doing the same thing. What you do it better? Come on man knock that foolish talk off you're no better than anyone else. This site was set up to help everyone on here buy sex and gain access to anything pertaining to sex and that's all I did. HL29. Oh and I’m not 70.HL29

[WanderingAbout]

Sasha and Cupcake.

Lindsee and Hollie.


Pounding Cupcake doggy while Sasha did a world class rimmer. Damn I miss them.

[TMeister]

I served my country I got out with an honorable discharge I went to the Persian gulf I spent time away from my family and put up with and did things someone who hasn't served could never dream of so don't tell me what I deserve and don't deserve. I also had to have my primary care physician prescribe them after I had a serious medical condition. So don't think I went and made up a story to get them. And you have a lot of nerve talking about who an old vet is banging and you're doing the same thing. What you do it better? Come on man knock that foolish talk off you're no better than anyone else. This site was set up to help everyone on here buy sex and gain access to anything pertaining to sex and that's all I did. HL29. Oh and Im not 70.HL29I also served my country and took shrapnel in a hostile firefight. I deserve as much respect as anyone in here, and I will demand I get it one way or the other.

HOWEVER, I don't expect the American taxpayer to fund my "extra-curricular activities" whether it's mongering or playing golf or shooting craps at the casino. I realize most Americans are hard-working stiffs like me just earning a paycheck to put food on the table and a roof over the heads. We want our tax dollars spent on truly USEFUL things like good roads and bridges, decent schools for the kiddies, and police and firemen to keep the whole messy operation running smooth and by the numbers. Whether you like it or not, casual sexy fun is PURELY a hobby and nothing else. You aint going to die or suffer major life disability if you don't bone that blond spinner you spotted on a website.

Think about this CAREFULLY the next time you're in a VA doctor's office and asking for those free boner pills and who's paying for them. The guilt trip alone will make my words seem 100 X more poignant and truthful.

Words to live by.

[FortunateSon1]

I'm a hard-working American taxpayer and I got no problem with paying for healthcare for wounded vets, esp. If the healthcare is for an injury or chronic problem related to military service.

However, I got a lot of problems with using tax money to pay for "boner pills" so that a 70 yr. Old vet can visit working girls to get his Jollies. I would think most Americans would agree with me on that.I pay plenty of taxes, and I heavily disagree! Leaving out the fact that our vets have to jump through a crazy amount of hoops in most places to even get basic care out of the VA, I'm happy to see them getting something useful. At one point, these gentlemen signed a contract "up to and including their lives" to protect our freedoms and lifestiles. I know many vets from Vietnam and the Persian Gulf War that were exposed to things that make Viagra necessary. And even if the issues aren't service related, I think a good boner is the least we owe these folks. Rock on and keep banging 'them on us! Thanks for your service!

FS1 out.

[JohnnyBoy69]

I saw mention in another post about a monger party. A) did those happen that often? And B) do they happen nowadays? I think that would be one hell of a good time.

JB.

[D Nut]

I saw mention in another post about a monger party. A) did those happen that often? And B) do they happen nowadays? I think that would be one hell of a good time.

JB.They used to happen, but it was via back channels invite only. Never publicized until AFTER the event to give reviews. A few times, a football party was organized by a prominent handler (now out of the biz); you go, pay you "entrance fee, watch football and his ladies were around if you wanted to get tackled yourself.

But again, that was strictly by invite only. If you didn't know about it, you're not invited.

[Admin2]

I also served my country and took shrapnel in a hostile firefight. I deserve as much respect as anyone in here, and I will demand I get it one way or the other.

HOWEVER, I don't expect the American taxpayer to fund my "extra-curricular activities" whether it's mongering or playing golf or shooting craps at the casino. I realize most Americans are hard-working stiffs like me just earning a paycheck to put food on the table and a roof over the heads. We want our tax dollars spent on truly USEFUL things like good roads and bridges, decent schools for the kiddies, and police and firemen to keep the whole messy operation running smooth and by the numbers. Whether you like it or not, casual sexy fun is PURELY a hobby and nothing else. You aint going to die or suffer major life disability if you don't bone that blond spinner you spotted on a website.

Think about this CAREFULLY the next time you're in a VA doctor's office and asking for those free boner pills and who's paying for them. The guilt trip alone will make my words seem 100 X more poignant and truthful.

Words to live by.You're making an emotional not factual argument. We signed up, our part of the deal was being shrapnel catchers, their part (which includes the taxpayer) was three hots and cot along with health care. It's as simple as that.

Don't tell guys to look at facts then give opinion.

[RogerOver]

I also served my country and took shrapnel in a hostile firefight. I deserve as much respect as anyone in here, and I will demand I get it one way or the other.

HOWEVER, I don't expect the American taxpayer to fund my "extra-curricular activities" whether it's mongering or playing golf or shooting craps at the casino. I realize most Americans are hard-working stiffs like me just earning a paycheck to put food on the table and a roof over the heads. We want our tax dollars spent on truly USEFUL things like good roads and bridges, decent schools for the kiddies, and police and firemen to keep the whole messy operation running smooth and by the numbers. Whether you like it or not, casual sexy fun is PURELY a hobby and nothing else. You aint going to die or suffer major life disability if you don't bone that blond spinner you spotted on a website.

Think about this CAREFULLY the next time you're in a VA doctor's office and asking for those free boner pills and who's paying for them. The guilt trip alone will make my words seem 100 X more poignant and truthful.

Words to live by.So it's those tax funded boner pills that have you in a huff? I'll tell you what, maybe when we stop spending millions on that turd in the White House playing golf or chasing people for smoking weed we can talk. Or maybe we could have used that money Pence wasted walking out of a football game over people exercising free speech?

I think I'll be ok in the VA office.

[BigGusDickUs55]

As a fellow Disabled American Military Veteran I think that legally obtained benefits should not be used to obtain illegal benefits of any kind. Prostution is illegal and the benefits are being used to support illegal activities. If a Veteran is receiving benefits and trading, selling or using those benefits to enable illegal activities the benefits should be canceled. No benefits received from the government be it VA, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare or SSI should be used to support illegal activities of any kind. I am sure if you researched your benefits legal statements you would find that you could loose your benefits, with the possibility of prosecution for using those benefits in the execution of a punishable crime. I am no legal scholar by any means, but as a dumb jar head I would never endanger loosing my VA benefits for personal pleasure, personal gratification or personal gain.


I also served my country and took shrapnel in a hostile firefight. I deserve as much respect as anyone in here, and I will demand I get it one way or the other.

HOWEVER, I don't expect the American taxpayer to fund my "extra-curricular activities" whether it's mongering or playing golf or shooting craps at the casino. I realize most Americans are hard-working stiffs like me just earning a paycheck to put food on the table and a roof over the heads. We want our tax dollars spent on truly USEFUL things like good roads and bridges, decent schools for the kiddies, and police and firemen to keep the whole messy operation running smooth and by the numbers. Whether you like it or not, casual sexy fun is PURELY a hobby and nothing else. You aint going to die or suffer major life disability if you don't bone that blond spinner you spotted on a website.

Think about this CAREFULLY the next time you're in a VA doctor's office and asking for those free boner pills and who's paying for them. The guilt trip alone will make my words seem 100 X more poignant and truthful.

Words to live by.

[TMeister]

So it's those tax funded boner pills that have you in a huff? I'll tell you what, maybe when we stop spending millions on that turd in the White House playing golf or chasing people for smoking weed we can talk. Or maybe we could have used that money Pence wasted walking out of a football game over people exercising free speech?

I think I'll be ok in the VA office.Well as much as we disagree about who's funding boner pills for vets, it seems we are in 100% agreement about that crybaby Commie parasite in the White House who is billing the American taxpayers $7 million every time he gasses up Air Force One and flies to Florida for a weekend of golf. And so far in his first year, it's been A LOT of weekends.

Didn't this Commie slug say he was going to pay every cent of his campaign? Yet he hasn't paid a dime and never released his tax returns. What a lying SNAKE.

[TMeister]

As a fellow Disabled American Military Veteran I think that legally obtained benefits should not be used to obtain illegal benefits of any kind. Prostution is illegal and the benefits are being used to support illegal activities. If a Veteran is receiving benefits and trading, selling or using those benefits to enable illegal activities the benefits should be canceled. No benefits received from the government be it VA, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare or SSI should be used to support illegal activities of any kind. I am sure if you researched your benefits legal statements you would find that you could loose your benefits, with the possibility of prosecution for using those benefits in the execution of a punishable crime. I am no legal scholar by any means, but as a dumb jar head I would never endanger loosing my VA benefits for personal pleasure, personal gratification or personal gain.It's nice to see other vets in here using some COMMON SENSE and not looking out for his own selfish interests. Very refreshing!

A lot of us, myself included, grew up with proper values instilled by our parents and our country. We know right from wrong. And we know that all our hard work every day punching a clock and paying taxes is to be used for the right stuff, and not leisurely and illegal activities. I grind it out every day to pay taxes so that my car doesn't fall apart hitting so many potholes and decrepit bridges going to work! I like paying for good schools to the kiddies get a quality edumacation. And I certainly have no problem paying the salaries of the coppers, firemen, and paramedics for keeping the whole messy operation of our daily world running smooth as possible.

But us hard-working Joe's DO have a problem with funding your personal hobbies. Whether you're a vet or not, God did not bestow some divine right on you to enjoy any and all leisure activities with some other poor soul paying for it. That is called SIN in the eyes of the LORD. If you want to use your own funds, well go ahead because it's a free country and you should be able to fund your own hobbies. But once the taxpayers start funding boner pills for the male vets, that means we need to start funding tummy tucks, boob jobs, and Botox shots for all the female vets and that JUST AINT RIGHT. Funding VA healthcare means paying for prosthetic legs and arms, heart operations, and kidney transplants.

What you do with your little wanger with a girlie from a website is all on you and your wallet. That's just the way it needs to be.

[TMeister]

You're making an emotional not factual argument. We signed up, our part of the deal was being shrapnel catchers, their part (which includes the taxpayer) was three hots and cot along with health care. It's as simple as that.

Don't tell guys to look at facts then give opinion.No, you're 100% wrong because my argument was filled with nothing but FACTS. I get emotional about it because I don't want MY tax dollars spent on some dude's boner pills. That's pure waste!

We all have common sense and we know that funding a vet's boner pills is just WRONG. It is NOT healthcare. Healthcare is buying a new prostheses because a vet had his leg blown off in Afghanistan. Or paying for a life-saving heart operation or failing liver. If we start funding boner pills so that some horny vet can nail working girls in his spare time, that means we need to start funding female vets getting tummy tucks and face lifts and Botox injections. We are not cool with that kind of use for our tax dollars. That is NOT healthcare but purely lifestyle and pleasure enhancement.

Like I said many times already, people. This is all COMMON SENSE. We live in crazy times with crazy leaders, but let's not lose our basic American-made and divine right of knowing right from wrong.

[RogerOver]

As a fellow Disabled American Military Veteran I think that legally obtained benefits should not be used to obtain illegal benefits of any kind. Prostution is illegal and the benefits are being used to support illegal activities. If a Veteran is receiving benefits and trading, selling or using those benefits to enable illegal activities the benefits should be canceled. No benefits received from the government be it VA, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare or SSI should be used to support illegal activities of any kind. I am sure if you researched your benefits legal statements you would find that you could loose your benefits, with the possibility of prosecution for using those benefits in the execution of a punishable crime. I am no legal scholar by any means, but as a dumb jar head I would never endanger loosing my VA benefits for personal pleasure, personal gratification or personal gain.Say I'm retired military, and get my monthly stipend along with disability every month. Are you saying I should set that aside and make sure I don't purchase pussy with THAT money? But cash I otherwise earn is good to go?

What if I use my retirement benefits to go get drunk and then drive? If I get caught should they stop paying me?

Benefits are earned. Social Security is something I've paid a shitload into and it's my EARNED benefit when I start getting it back.

[MotoGib1]

I also served my country and took shrapnel in a hostile firefight. I deserve as much respect as anyone in here, and I will demand I get it one way or the other.

HOWEVER, I don't expect the American taxpayer to fund my "extra-curricular activities" whether it's mongering or playing golf or shooting craps at the casino. I realize most Americans are hard-working stiffs like me just earning a paycheck to put food on the table and a roof over the heads. We want our tax dollars spent on truly USEFUL things like good roads and bridges, decent schools for the kiddies, and police and firemen to keep the whole messy operation running smooth and by the numbers. Whether you like it or not, casual sexy fun is PURELY a hobby and nothing else. You aint going to die or suffer major life disability if you don't bone that blond spinner you spotted on a website.

Think about this CAREFULLY the next time you're in a VA doctor's office and asking for those free boner pills and who's paying for them. The guilt trip alone will make my words seem 100 X more poignant and truthful.

Words to live by.I'm with you brother.

[Upnya]

I served my country I got out with an honorable discharge I went to the Persian gulf I spent time away from my family and put up with and did things someone who hasn't served could never dream of so don't tell me what I deserve and don't deserve. I also had to have my primary care physician prescribe them after I had a serious medical condition. So don't think I went and made up a story to get them. And you have a lot of nerve talking about who an old vet is banging and you're doing the same thing. What you do it better? Come on man knock that foolish talk off you're no better than anyone else. This site was set up to help everyone on here buy sex and gain access to anything pertaining to sex and that's all I did. HL29. Oh and Im not 70.HL29I've never served my county but do consider myself patriotic. I couldn't disagree with you more. That's the most unamerican thing I can think of. Telling someone what they can or can't do why the money they earned. Vets put there lives on the line and who were disabled because they were protecting our freedom can do whatever the fuck they want with it.

[RogerOver]

So around noon, I hooked up with Brenna Nicole for one of our "hide the RO salami" sessions. This isn't a review since I've left a few and she's absolutely wonderful. No, this is more of a PSA if you own an Apple watch. My Apple watch dialed 911 while Brenna and I were deeply involved in some noisy fucking. Here's what happened:

The Apple watch has a power button on the side that's closest to your hand (if you wear lefty). Pushing this button for three seconds brings up a dialogue to either power off or make an emergency call. This information will matter a few lines down.

So we met up for 90 minutes. As is our custom, my hottie knows we need to take the load off, so we start things off with a nice BBBJCIMWS, which is always nice. After kicking back and making fun of a shitload of people (she has a wicked sense of humor), we figure it's time for round two, and I flip her over for MISH.

So we go at it for a while, and I'm really enjoying myself. Brenna knows me and is giving it her all. Lots of noise and encouragement. I'm pretty much in push up position and my hand presses against that power button. Yep. Guess what happens.

I mean we are seriously fucking. Brenna has her heels on my ass, hands on my back, groaning and saying "yes daddy, you feel so good. " And I'm heading for the finale so don't know what I was saying but I am certain it was nasty and loud. I felt a vibration on my wrist but couldn't be bothered to give a fuck.

So I finish getting off and I'm still laying there, waiting for the Kegals to start, but I hear a voice saying, "911 - what's the emergency?" We were both like, what the fuck? I pulled my watch up and it took me a minute in my dazed state to figure out what happened. I immediately blurted out that I didn't mean to call them. They laughed and hung up. I turned off my watch and tossed it on the dresser.

So if you have an Apple watch, don't wear it while you're fucking. Get a Garmin if you need to check your heart rate. Jesus. What if that thing had dialed one of my kids? LOL.

[FreeWilly12]

So around noon, I hooked up with Brenna Nicole for one of our "hide the RO salami" sessions. This isn't a review since I've left a few and she's absolutely wonderful. No, this is more of a PSA if you own an Apple watch. My Apple watch dialed 911 while Brenna and I were deeply involved in some noisy fucking. Here's what happened:

The Apple watch has a power button on the side that's closest to your hand (if you wear lefty). Pushing this button for three seconds brings up a dialogue to either power off or make an emergency call. This information will matter a few lines down.

So we met up for 90 minutes. As is our custom, my hottie knows we need to take the load off, so we start things off with a nice BBBJCIMWS, which is always nice. After kicking back and making fun of a shitload of people (she has a wicked sense of humor), we figure it's time for round two, and I flip her over for MISH.

So we go at it for a while, and I'm really enjoying myself. Brenna knows me and is giving it her all. Lots of noise and encouragement. I'm pretty much in push up position and my hand presses against that power button. Yep. Guess what happens.

I mean we are seriously fucking. Brenna has her heels on my ass, hands on my back, groaning and saying "yes daddy, you feel so good. " And I'm heading for the finale so don't know what I was saying but I am certain it was nasty and loud. I felt a vibration on my wrist but couldn't be bothered to give a fuck.

So I finish getting off and I'm still laying there, waiting for the Kegals to start, but I hear a voice saying, "911 - what's the emergency?" We were both like, what the fuck? I pulled my watch up and it took me a minute in my dazed state to figure out what happened. I immediately blurted out that I didn't mean to call them. They laughed and hung up. I turned off my watch and tossed it on the dresser.

So if you have an Apple watch, don't wear it while you're fucking. Get a Garmin if you need to check your heart rate. Jesus. What if that thing had dialed one of my kids? LOL.Similar experience but just opened the door for this young Korean woman to see me and I accidentally butt dial the wife and I'm talking to this girl and then I realized that she was on the line, had to put that fire out real quick that the fire alarm went off and we were in the hallway. No clue by the x because she was half asleep. Technology can be enlightening. Be careful.

[CincyHobbist]

I look at it this way! Take the folks on welfare and any other public assistance and make them serve 4 years. Educate and train them and they will not burden society and they will have health care. The VA is a joke in my opinion! Hard to get things rolling! Game playing by people who think they are God. The veterans that went into the cesspools that the left and right leaners wouldn't think of or know of deserve to be treated with dignity all the way around. If that means they get a disability check and a blue pill to go see a provider so be it! They laid it on the line voluntarily except for the Naim era. So if I have to pay for that, then so be it! I owe them since they fought for my dumb ass to be able to live free without having to show papers to travel. I owe them so I can go buy McD's! Do you get the point? We all have opinions and we all have assholes! Sometimes both stink! Sometimes both smell like roses. To all the mongers that are vets! Go get you some and let go of the stress you incurred in a hostile zone on my dime! Thanks for your service!

[BigGusDickUs55]

If a requirement of the benefit is that the benefit not used to commit activities that are unlawful or other wise illegal. Yes that benefit should be revoked. I have my opinion of what government benefits should be used for and you have yours. Use your benefits as you see fit, after all they are your benefits. Earning a benefit does not mean that benefit cannot be taken away. If you are committing a illegal act and you are subject to punishment that may include imprisonment and or loss of benefits. Maybe you should evaluate what benefit will benefit you the most. Asking what if questions or asking questions that are pointless and endless only dilute that facts. If your benefit can be canceled or revoked because it was used for illegal purposes and it gets canceled its a lost benefit.


Say I'm retired military, and get my monthly stipend along with disability every month. Are you saying I should set that aside and make sure I don't purchase pussy with THAT money? But cash I otherwise earn is good to go?

What if I use my retirement benefits to go get drunk and then drive? If I get caught should they stop paying me?

Benefits are earned. Social Security is something I've paid a shitload into and it's my EARNED benefit when I start getting it back.

[RogerOver]

If a requirement of the benefit is that the benefit not used to commit activities that are unlawful or other wise illegal. Yes that benefit should be revoked. I have my opinion of what government benefits should be used for and you have yours. Use your benefits as you see fit, after all they are your benefits. Earning a benefit does not mean that benefit cannot be taken away. If you are committing a illegal act and you are subject to punishment that may include imprisonment and or loss of benefits. Maybe you should evaluate what benefit will benefit you the most. Asking what if questions or asking questions that are pointless and endless only dilute that facts. If your benefit can be canceled or revoked because it was used for illegal purposes and it gets canceled its a lost benefit.It's not a what if situation. Illegal is illegal. What possible difference can it make if I'm using benefit money or other money to accomplish the same? You do realize you're on a pay-4-pay review board, right?

"So judge, I made sure I moved the deposit from my military retirement into a separate account before I hit the ATM to get some cash to tear that ass up." LOL.

Can they stop giving me a tax refund if I use it for pussy?

Please provide a single example of someone losing SSI or other earned benefit from using it for illegal means. I'm not talking about SNAP fraud either.

[TMeister]

I look at it this way! Take the folks on welfare and any other public assistance and make them serve 4 years. Educate and train them and they will not burden society and they will have health care. The VA is a joke in my opinion! Hard to get things rolling! Game playing by people who think they are God. The veterans that went into the cesspools that the left and right leaners wouldn't think of or know of deserve to be treated with dignity all the way around. If that means they get a disability check and a blue pill to go see a provider so be it! They laid it on the line voluntarily except for the Naim era. So if I have to pay for that, then so be it! I owe them since they fought for my dumb ass to be able to live free without having to show papers to travel. I owe them so I can go buy McD's! Do you get the point? We all have opinions and we all have assholes! Sometimes both stink! Sometimes both smell like roses. To all the mongers that are vets! Go get you some and let go of the stress you incurred in a hostile zone on my dime! Thanks for your service!For the sake of common sense, you can't have this attitude. What you're basically saying is that since a vet put his life on the line to protect us, he gets virtually unlimited money to spend on whatever whimsical thing he wants to once he gets back stateside? MAKES ZERO SENSE!

Like I already mentioned, if you green light taxpayer-funded boner pills for vets, then you're pretty much green-lighting taxpayers paying for boob jobs, tummy tucks, face lifts, butt implants, and Botox injections for all the female vets who come back and need cosmetic surgery to feel better about themselves! And while you're at it, go ahead and pay for every vet to have all-expenses paid vacations to Hawaii and Thailand because after all, they made big sacrifices to protect our nation so we need to pay for whatever they want when they get back, right? PURE STUPIDITY any way you look at it.

America needs to get back to COMMON SENSE or we're all doomed. Taxes pay for roads and schools, NOT boner pills for horny vets. 99% of all Americans would agree with me on that.

99% of Americans don't agree that we actually went to the moon so no, 99% of Americans wouldn't agree with you on that.

A2

[RogerOver]

As a fellow Disabled American Military Veteran I think that legally obtained benefits should not be used to obtain illegal benefits of any kind. Prostution is illegal and the benefits are being used to support illegal activities. If a Veteran is receiving benefits and trading, selling or using those benefits to enable illegal activities the benefits should be canceled. No benefits received from the government be it VA, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare or SSI should be used to support illegal activities of any kind. I am sure if you researched your benefits legal statements you would find that you could loose your benefits, with the possibility of prosecution for using those benefits in the execution of a punishable crime. I am no legal scholar by any means, but as a dumb jar head I would never endanger loosing my VA benefits for personal pleasure, personal gratification or personal gain.


It's nice to see other vets in here using some COMMON SENSE and not looking out for his own selfish interests. Very refreshing!

A lot of us, myself included, grew up with proper values instilled by our parents and our country. We know right from wrong. And we know that all our hard work every day punching a clock and paying taxes is to be used for the right stuff, and not leisurely and illegal activities. I grind it out every day to pay taxes so that my car doesn't fall apart hitting so many potholes and decrepit bridges going to work! I like paying for good schools to the kiddies get a quality edumacation. And I certainly have no problem paying the salaries of the coppers, firemen, and paramedics for keeping the whole messy operation of our daily world running smooth as possible.

But us hard-working Joe's DO have a problem with funding your personal hobbies. Whether you're a vet or not, God did not bestow some divine right on you to enjoy any and all leisure activities with some other poor soul paying for it. That is called SIN in the eyes of the LORD. If you want to use your own funds, well go ahead because it's a free country and you should be able to fund your own hobbies. But once the taxpayers start funding boner pills for the male vets, that means we need to start funding tummy tucks, boob jobs, and Botox shots for all the female vets and that JUST AINT RIGHT. Funding VA healthcare means paying for prosthetic legs and arms, heart operations, and kidney transplants.

What you do with your little wanger with a girlie from a website is all on you and your wallet. That's just the way it needs to be.See, there we go. You're acting like it is just as plain as day. Shouldn't be paying for boner pills at taxpayer expense. I can think of several scenarios where ED can be a result of PTSD or other service-related illnesses / injuries. Why would that not be treatable by the VA?

Also, I want to add that "Disabled American Military Veteran" is not a title and shouldn't be capitalized. I'm also one, and we did our time and get our benefits. I don't need tights and a cape, nor do I need everyone thanking me for my service or running around with "support our troops" stickers all over their cars. I made a deal with the government and kept up my end. Now they can keep theirs. Boner pills included. LOL.

[TMeister]

It's not a what if situation. Illegal is illegal. What possible difference can it make if I'm using benefit money or other money to accomplish the same? You do realize you're on a pay-4-pay review board, right? Can they stop giving me a tax refund if I use it for pussy?You're kinda missing the point here. Of course it's virtually impossible to monitor how a vet or welfare recipient uses a government handout. Once Uncle Sam writes you a check, you are free to spend it on anything, whether it's food, rent, or pussy. It's your money and you're free to do as you please.

However, VA health benefits do not fall under that same category. The whole point of VA healthcare is to utilize the federal health system already in place to get maximum benefit for lowest cost to the taxpayers. ALL military folks know that's the deal when they sign the bottom line to commit to service. Otherwise, the USA Govt. Would just hand them a wad of money every month and tell them to purchase their own private health insurance.

VA healthcare is basically an agreement between the public and vets. It's an understanding that in return for military service, the public will fund essential healthcare necessary for normal daily life. Erection pills and Botox injections is NOT a requirement for normal daily life. That is purely lifestyle enhancement and should ONLY be funded by the vets' own personal funds.

You have to draw a line in the sand about things considered vital to everyday life and things seen as purely luxury and lifestyle expenses. Otherwise, the American taxpayer will be obligated to pay for vets' vacations to Acapulco and Bahamas, new Mercedes and Audis, and buying new 80-inch TVs and iPhone 11's and 12's.

[Admin2]

I'm giving you guys one more day on this then I'm pulling the plug.

TMeister we all understand what you think about this, there is no need to answer each and every person that doesn't agree with you individually.

You really need to read this as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies.

Your arguments are full of them.

A2.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Getting laid is not just a hobby. Sex improves your life. To say that someone should not be able to get ED meds as part of their health care plan is ludicrous.

I suffer from depression. Getting laid helps me cope. I am on meds that affect my ability to get an erection. My health care plan pays for what I need to perform. What is wrong with that?

If I were a Vet and had my healthcare through the VA, who of you have the right to say that I can't get laid?

Maybe I take Viagra to have sex with my wife. It's none of your business.

Quit writing bullshit on a hooker board about the VA. Write your fucking Congressman if you want change.

Jezzus. Move on. I think that those bitching the most have never experienced the depression following a night of ED. It ain't fun.

Now go back to bitching about NCNS. Bitching about GPS. Complain about H-****** who pass out while blowing you. Leave the guys, I should say, the Vets, who need help alone. You never know, it could be you someday.

[Thors]

Why is it so hard for these girls to try. Yes some do; but I'm not a robot; I need erausal to suduction to proform good. Let me undress you. Just taking off your clothes like; here I am naked; good enough. No; try to get me Eroused please. Damn; are you serious. You do want repeating clients correct. Some of the crapiest bjs I ever got; not even a BJ. You just put my junk in your mouth. Try harder.

[CincyHobbist]

Dear Sir / Madam.

I am writing to inform you that Veterans are using their disability and VA medical benefits to obtain hookers, blow and viagra! I find this totally offensive and outrageous! If you need to verify this information, please go to xyz website and read what is posted by the following users! Also I find it absolutely disgusting that you also have different benefits then the common people and use your position of power to score pussy easier then me!

TMEISTER.

Dear Mr. TMIESTER,

Thank you for your concern. Unfortunately it has fallen on deaf ears! If you haven't realized the Federal Government is a corrupt and self serving entity. If you truly knew the scope of all that goes on. Well you would be writing letters to every politician on capital hill! Also, I would like to inform you that the IRS and NSA will be paying you a visit in the coming months.

Yours truly,

XYZ Politican.

As I learned as a young man in a MAFIA run town. You hate the game and not the players. That way you stay alive and sane. Sorry ADMIN2 about the hard spacing. Please don't hate me, I am just a player in the mongering game!

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

Getting laid is not just a hobby. Sex improves your life. To say that someone should not be able to get ED meds as part of their health care plan is ludicrous.

I suffer from depression. Getting laid helps me cope. I am on meds that affect my ability to get an erection. My health care plan pays for what I need to perform. What is wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with it at all. I risk a lot to participate in the hobby partly because, for me, getting a piece with some regularity is part of a well-lived life. I don't need ED meds, but should I need them, I too would use whatever insurance I have to get them.

I think there are bigger things to worry about than where guys get ED pills. Such as the fact that some harpie at work can ruin you for life by accusing you of having tried to get into her panties, no proof required. I'm not discounting legit cases, am only referring to the bogus ones.

In that context, staying safe and discreet in the hobby is more important than ever, as your mileage could really vary by trying to get laid outside the hobby anymore. Let's get back to talking about good old fashioned field reports.

[TMeister]

[Deleted by Admin]

Times up, this was the most ridiculous thing you have ever posted.

The fallacy on this one was "false analogy" you getting a new iPhone and a trip to Barbados isn't the same as a medical plan that covers a legitimate medical issue.

Times up on this discussion.

A2

[RogerOver]

Dear Sir / Madam.

I am writing to inform you that Veterans are using their disability and VA medical benefits to obtain hookers, blow and viagra! I find this totally offensive and outrageous! If you need to verify this information, please go to xyz website and read what is posted by the following users! Also I find it absolutely disgusting that you also have different benefits then the common people and use your position of power to score pussy easier then me!

TMEISTER.

Dear Mr. TMIESTER,

Thank you for your concern. Unfortunately it has fallen on deaf ears! If you haven't realized the Federal Government is a corrupt and self serving entity. If you truly knew the scope of all that goes on. Well you would be writing letters to every politician on capital hill! Also, I would like to inform you that the IRS and NSA will be paying you a visit in the coming months.

Yours truly,

XYZ Politican.

As I learned as a young man in a MAFIA run town. You hate the game and not the players. That way you stay alive and sane. Sorry ADMIN2 about the hard spacing. Please don't hate me, I am just a player in the mongering game!But before the windows close, I just want to say I think this was fucking awesome!

Bravo sir! (https://imgur.com/a/a2xUW)

[JohnnyBoy69]

Let's have a monger party to discuss these fine points.

Rule 1) discussion occurs after fucking.

Rule 2) lots of fucking occurs.

How did one set these up in the past?

JB.

[RogerOver]

I saw mention in another post about a monger party. A) did those happen that often? And B) do they happen nowadays? I think that would be one hell of a good time.

JB.


Let's have a monger party to discuss these fine points.

Rule 1) discussion occurs after fucking.

Rule 2) lots of fucking occurs.

How did one set these up in the past?

JB.Dude, that's twice in a couple of days that you've been trying to hit up a monger party. I mean, why do you want to be part of a big sausage fest? Go find some pussy or hit up one of the swinger houses. Plenty of creepy people there that want to talk and fuck.

[Clem12]

Why is it so hard for these girls to try. Yes some do; but I'm not a robot; I need erausal to suduction to proform good. Do I ever agree with this. In my late 60's I still have the drive, but need a little coaxing and arousal to complete things. I've had a few providers that understand this and seductively and coyly play around for 15 minutes before going full steam. I've had a number of them who do not. The ones who make it enticing wind up having to do less work because they "prep" me much better. And it's a hell of a lot more fun than those that have their eye on the clock and the finish from the time I walk in the door.

[JohnnyBoy69]

Dude, that's twice in a couple of days that you've been trying to hit up a monger party. I mean, why do you want to be part of a big sausage fest? Go find some pussy or hit up one of the swinger houses. Plenty of creepy people there that want to talk and fuck.

Nevermind. Not going to respond other than to say, thanks for the response. ;-)

JB

[Scup1958]

I saw mention in another post about a monger party. A) did those happen that often? And B) do they happen nowadays? I think that would be one hell of a good time.

JB.I've been to several of them. They are a good time, but it's not easy to put one together. Everyone has their own idea about where it should be, when it should be, who should be invited, what activities should be allowed, and the list goes on. Some are convinced that it's just an elaborate sting. It didn't help when a large party organized by administrators of the INDYpendent site was infiltrated by LE. One provider with an outstanding warrant was picked up and that's about all that they got. All of them that I've been involved with since that event have been smaller groups where the participants are well known to each other. I only ever organized one event. It involved 5 mongers and 2 providers. It worked out very well, but that's the last time I intend to try and organize one of these things.

[TMeister]

I've been to several of them. They are a good time, but it's not easy to put one together. Everyone has their own idea about where it should be, when it should be, who should be invited, what activities should be allowed, and the list goes on. Some are convinced that it's just an elaborate sting. It didn't help when a large party organized by administrators of the INDYpendent site was infiltrated by LE. One provider with an outstanding warrant was picked up and that's about all that they got. All of them that I've been involved with since that event have been smaller groups where the participants are well known to each other. I only ever organized one event. It involved 5 mongers and 2 providers. It worked out very well, but that's the last time I intend to try and organize one of these things.I guess I'm old enough to not really be interested in this type of thing anymore. Back in my crazy horny 20's I probably woulda jumped at these rare opportunities with vigor and zeal. Kinda makes me sad that I never participated in such an event during my sexual peak. After all, I enjoyed watching orgy porn in those days and the mere idea of 9 or 10 attractive females in one room asking for you to fill their various wet holes is appealing to any man with a functioning dick!!

But now being in my late 40's, I only monger so I can get a young girlie to drain a week's worth of nut butter from my sack and relieve all that built up sperm pressure, and then give her a nice kiss and venture back into the night. Nature didn't intend for those tiny swimmers to wither and decay inside your body so you need to set them free every few days, and the most enjoyable way is to get a soft pair of lips or a tight vagg to coax them out LOL. I prefer to focus all my attention on that one girlie and let her do her job with passion and care to squeeze every last drop of juice out.

The idea of multiple naked women roaming around and squirting other guys' bodily fluids all over me don't really sound like the funnest thing in the world HA HA HA. Have at it, dudes!

[GrayGhost]

I guess I'm old enough to not really be interested in this type of thing anymore. Back in my crazy horny 20's I probably woulda jumped at these rare opportunities with vigor and zeal. Kinda makes me sad that I never participated in such an event during my sexual peak. After all, I enjoyed watching orgy porn in those days and the mere idea of 9 or 10 attractive females in one room asking for you to fill their various wet holes is appealing to any man with a functioning dick!!

But now being in my late 40's, I only monger so I can get a young girlie to drain a week's worth of nut butter from my sack and relieve all that built up sperm pressure, and then give her a nice kiss and venture back into the night. Nature didn't intend for those tiny swimmers to wither and decay inside your body so you need to set them free every few days, and the most enjoyable way is to get a soft pair of lips or a tight vagg to coax them out LOL. I prefer to focus all my attention on that one girlie and let her do her job with passion and care to squeeze every last drop of juice out.

The idea of multiple naked women roaming around and squirting other guys' bodily fluids all over me don't really sound like the funnest thing in the world HA HA HA. Have at it, dudes!I have never hear of that before? I must be living under a rock still.

[CantWaitForMor]

A provider I see regularly reached out last night. Seems she had an issue with a customer who wanted more than she was willing to provide and he shorted her for not giving him what he wanted.

This is a BR girl who doesn't offer FS. What she described would probably be considered attempted rape. After he didn't get his way he shorted her the donation. I'm far from being able to offer legal advice and thought I might see if anyone had an opinion. Most of my suggestions were just as illegal as what the guy did. What say the board?

[DrDave39]

A provider I see regularly reached out last night. Seems she had an issue with a customer who wanted more than she was willing to provide and he shorted her for not giving him what he wanted.

This is a BR girl who doesn't offer FS. What she described would probably be considered attempted rape. After he didn't get his way he shorted her the donation. I'm far from being able to offer legal advice and thought I might see if anyone had an opinion. Most of my suggestions were just as illegal as what the guy did. What say the board?All she can do is refuse to see him any more, and share his name where possible. He legal recourse is pretty well zero as she'd be more likely to go to jail than he would.

[TMeister]

A provider I see regularly reached out last night. Seems she had an issue with a customer who wanted more than she was willing to provide and he shorted her for not giving him what he wanted.

This is a BR girl who doesn't offer FS. What she described would probably be considered attempted rape. After he didn't get his way he shorted her the donation. I'm far from being able to offer legal advice and thought I might see if anyone had an opinion. Most of my suggestions were just as illegal as what the guy did. What say the board?This is probably why a membership-only service like P411 is the future of all mongering. It means BOTH mongers and providers have to play by the rules or be banned. In this case, the girl reports the foul behavior and the P411 admins take corrective action against the monger by dinging him a temporary suspension or banning him outright.

I used to sell stuff on Ebay in the early 2000's and it was a nice system because there was a feedback system for both buyers and sellers. We kept in each other in check and it quickly removed the bad actors. Sadly, that system ended in 2007 when Ebay no longer allowed sellers to leave negative feedback on scamming buyers.

[RogerOver]

A provider I see regularly reached out last night. Seems she had an issue with a customer who wanted more than she was willing to provide and he shorted her for not giving him what he wanted.

This is a BR girl who doesn't offer FS. What she described would probably be considered attempted rape. After he didn't get his way he shorted her the donation. I'm far from being able to offer legal advice and thought I might see if anyone had an opinion. Most of my suggestions were just as illegal as what the guy did. What say the board?I say that I take a lot of what these girls tell me with a grain of salt. It could be true, or it could be bullshit. I'd stay out of it completely. If she was assaulted she should go to the police. They aren't going to lock her up for reporting a crime.

[Dillsborodave]

On another site they used to have a yearly golf outing. I went to one they had in Columbus Ohio a few years ago. It's neat to meet other providers in person. Each foursome was supposed to have a provider but some were no shows and screwed the whole thing up. I would be up for a round of golf and meeting some providers.

[Dick Morehead]

On another site they used to have a yearly golf outing. I went to one they had in Columbus Ohio a few years ago. It's neat to meet other providers in person. Each foursome was supposed to have a provider but some were no shows and screwed the whole thing up. I would be up for a round of golf and meeting some providers.I agree completely with Dillsborodave except; I'd be up to a round of providers and meet some golfers!

[TommyJohn]

Swing and miss with 4 different ladies today! Business must be good.

[Cincyfunguy]

A provider I see regularly reached out last night. Seems she had an issue with a customer who wanted more than she was willing to provide and he shorted her for not giving him what he wanted.

This is a BR girl who doesn't offer FS. What she described would probably be considered attempted rape. After he didn't get his way he shorted her the donation. I'm far from being able to offer legal advice and thought I might see if anyone had an opinion. Most of my suggestions were just as illegal as what the guy did. What say the board?My friend recently learned from a Provider that she was contacted by a first time prospective client. He offered her one third of her advertised rate and threatened that he would post a bad review if she didn't accept. She wisely told him where to go.

Sad but true, there are some real shithead low-life's out there.

CFG.

[ProVid]

My friend recently learned from a Provider that she was contacted by a first time prospective client. He offered her one third of her advertised rate and threatened that he would post a bad review if she didn't accept. She wisely told him where to go.

Sad but true, there are some real shithead low-life's out there.

CFG.I doubt that was a real first-timer.

Sounds like something some well established senior piece of shit would do and has done and has even basically bragged about doing with providers.

You guys need to keep this in mind when you talk about Monger parties. Or Monger unity in the face of NCNS. Or any other bullshit like that. You probably don't want to meet these guys.

[WhereDreamsGo]

I doubt that was a real first-timer.

Sounds like something some well established senior piece of shit would do and has done and has even basically bragged about doing with providers.

You guys need to keep this in mind when you talk about Monger parties. Or Monger unity in the face of NCNS. Or any other bullshit like that. You probably don't want to meet these guys.Also something to keep in mind when you read reviews here, or anywhere. There are plenty of providers lying, and also plenty of mongers. Provider lies are pretty easy to deal with and ignore, because they're pretty standard issue anyway ("my phone stopped working," "he was my brother," "I don't use drugs, but man you should hear about these other hos," "my period just started when you walked in the door," "you're the only guy I'm seeing today. " "You're my favorite. " "I'll pay you back next time.") The guys who are spreading BS to try extorting providers, or write suckup reviews to the same end, do more damage, because basically it's gotten harder to believe anything.

[Dangus2017]

Getting laid is not just a hobby. Sex improves your life. To say that someone should not be able to get ED meds as part of their health care plan is ludicrous.

I suffer from depression. Getting laid helps me cope. I am on meds that affect my ability to get an erection. My health care plan pays for what I need to perform. What is wrong with that?

If I were a Vet and had my healthcare through the VA, who of you have the right to say that I can't get laid?

Maybe I take Viagra to have sex with my wife. It's none of your business.

Quit writing bullshit on a hooker board about the VA. Write your fucking Congressman if you want change.

Jezzus. Move on. I think that those bitching the most have never experienced the depression following a night of ED. It ain't fun.




Now go back to bitching about NCNS. Bitching about GPS. Complain about H-****** who pass out while blowing you. Leave the guys, I should say, the Vets, who need help alone. You never know, it could be you someday.Very good post my friend, and I am sorry to hear about your depression.

[CurvyChristina]

Where else can I go to get out a Rant or Rave without fear of family or friends judging, that was rhetorical. So, I walk out to the deck, it started snowing for the 3rd time. The flakes are surprisingly slow to be so large and dense looking. Now you'd think at this time of year, below freezing winds howling through the back yard, cold enough to throw water in the air and watch it turn to ice before it lands. It's really quiet when it snows like this, when I lived in the city areas it would get so quiet, you could hear electric buzzing through the power lines. The privacy here is amazing it's so quiet. No power lines taking over the streets, cutting the trees in half along the way all to put idiots front and center, yelling from a screen right in your living room as if there's a town hall meeting and you're providing seating. So this deck & my service room is solace. I considered myself, likely the only lady on our street with a naughty side. However this night, I thought the Dr. Understated the rise in libido as hormones adjust to the correction in medication I'd needed for nearly two yrs. Yet there I was again, hearing this slashing, like salmon on the run jumping to make the pass, moaning like moose at 4 am in grunt season & murmuring like a 15 yr old boy who just had to get his first motor boating out of his system. Call me nosey or dangerously stupid, your choice, but I'm so intrigued so I investigate. Only a few yards away I see steam, coming up in moon light like a warm lake on a cold night. I see light cutting through the brush and fencing. I go closer still. Now I find myself at 35 yrs old, backed against thick bushes, hunched down slightly with palms against the bushes as if a 007 Girl rounding the ledge of a high rise. Looking into someone's windows. It's definitely not a window, though a peeping tom I'm sure I'd be. I split the bushes quickly to see, because during my thoughts of telling my cell mate Bertha, that I'm in for watching my neighbors have sex out doors, it got quiet. Very quiet. I'm looking, looking, then as if behind me I hear " THERE YOU ARE I THOUGHT YOU GOT COLD! YOU WANT TO COME INSIDE?" Just as I raise up to apologize thinking this will not be good in the rumor mill, I hear, " NO BABE I STAYED UNDER THE WATER JUST INCASE IT NEEDED NEW BATTERIES " I ducked back down as he answers, " and that he did!" . ,they touch it as if it's some majestic animal, like it's the last of its kind in captivity trying to prevent extinction. It's a dong! With a base like a plunger! Imagine me eyes! These come with a platform yet he's not mad, he's not upset or jealous, he's as happy to bend her over, stick it to the side, slide it around as she backs and pokes over an over until the perfect spot is reached for her comfort. Her spot of comfort looked so perfect, she leaned over and laid her arms across eachother, laid her head on them like the dip on the side of the tub was a pillow on the bed, he wraps in a robe and zips up the wind breaker to prevent blowing into their little square, sits and smokes while he watches her, with her eyes closed, leaning back on something not of him, enjoy the prolonged, uninterrupted, penetration. I know, I should leave, it's not a moose or wild bear trashing garbage cans in a shed, I found the source of the noise, I should go. Well, I can't, it's now quiet, the ground will crunch, steam seemed to of fallin an coated the snow in front of me. SHIT! Now what! ,. They can't last forever, I'll wait them out, oddly, I'm wasn't very cold. 15 minutes turned into 30, turns into 45 , I'm starting to think SHEESH LADY! Give it a break already I got to get inside, but no! Right when I think I'm home free, right when I think he's done letting her have an unstoppable continuation of strokes! He stands and I'm thinking, he's about to say, okay now baby, that's enough for tonight, instead I look to see he unrobed, he's holding her hair an pulling her back on it harder and faster, she starts telling him she's ready and I'm like holy shit! He straddling this lady (whom I no longer call * the Neighbor's new wife) I cover my mouth an watch as he slides himself inside her without missing a beat! Double PENETRATION WITHOUT a 3rd PARTY! I've seen a lot of pornos in my life but you just can't make this shit up! Something I probably would of stayed to watch the finale but I had the green light while she begged aloud for all of it, to make my dash to the deck. I make it inside and my house is as quiet as when I left. I'm obviously in an odd mental state at this point, I'm even a bit mad, or is it jealous? Do I complain to them like an old grouchy lady, or what was I pissed about? I decided to leave it alone, being a person known for having no filter when talking, my luck I'd attempt to complain and make up something like noise, then quickly end up blurting out that if she kept up the advertising, she'd be single again soon and I'd have a nice hot tub. .

That was Saturday. Smh. What a night. Yeah this weather these days is something else you know. Hehe.

[Silverfox38]

Got to love them neighbors!

[Crism080]

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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

I know it's a fight thread but generally speaking guys who are fucking D-Bags on post number 4 aren't gonna get better.

A2

[RogerOver]

Where else can I go to get out a Rant or Rave without fear of family or friends judging, that was rhetorical. So, I walk out to the deck, it started snowing for the 3rd time. The flakes are surprisingly slow to be so large and dense looking. Now you'd think at this time of year, below freezing winds howling through the back yard, cold enough to throw water in the air and watch it turn to ice before it lands. It's really quiet when it snows like this, when I lived in the city areas it would get so quiet, you could hear electric buzzing through the power lines. The privacy here is amazing it's so quiet. No power lines taking over the streets, cutting the trees in half along the way all to put idiots front and center, yelling from a screen right in your living room as if there's a town hall meeting and you're providing seating. So this deck & my service room is solace. I considered myself, likely the only lady on our street with a naughty side. However this night, I thought the Dr. Understated the rise in libido as hormones adjust to the correction in medication I'd needed for nearly two yrs. Yet there I was again, hearing this slashing, like salmon on the run jumping to make the pass, moaning like moose at 4 am in grunt season & murmuring like a 15 yr old boy who just had to get his first motor boating out of his system. Call me nosey or dangerously stupid, your choice, but I'm so intrigued so I investigate. Only a few yards away I see steam, coming up in moon light like a warm lake on a cold night. I see light cutting through the brush and fencing. I go closer still. Now I find myself at 35 yrs old, backed against thick bushes, hunched down slightly with palms against the bushes as if a 007 Girl rounding the ledge of a high rise. Looking into someone's windows. It's definitely not a window, though a peeping tom I'm sure I'd be. I split the bushes quickly to see, because during my thoughts of telling my cell mate Bertha, that I'm in for watching my neighbors have sex out doors, it got quiet. Very quiet. I'm looking, looking, then as if behind me I hear " THERE YOU ARE I THOUGHT YOU GOT COLD! YOU WANT TO COME INSIDE?" Just as I raise up to apologize thinking this will not be good in the rumor mill, I hear, " NO BABE I STAYED UNDER THE WATER JUST INCASE IT NEEDED NEW BATTERIES " I ducked back down as he answers, " and that he did!" . ,they touch it as if it's some majestic animal, like it's the last of its kind in captivity trying to prevent extinction. It's a dong! With a base like a plunger! Imagine me eyes! These come with a platform yet he's not mad, he's not upset or jealous, he's as happy to bend her over, stick it to the side, slide it around as she backs and pokes over an over until the perfect spot is reached for her comfort. Her spot of comfort looked so perfect, she leaned over and laid her arms across eachother, laid her head on them like the dip on the side of the tub was a pillow on the bed, he wraps in a robe and zips up the wind breaker to prevent blowing into their little square, sits and smokes while he watches her, with her eyes closed, leaning back on something not of him, enjoy the prolonged, uninterrupted, penetration. I know, I should leave, it's not a moose or wild bear trashing garbage cans in a shed, I found the source of the noise, I should go. Well, I can't, it's now quiet, the ground will crunch, steam seemed to of fallin an coated the snow in front of me. SHIT! Now what! ,. They can't last forever, I'll wait them out, oddly, I'm wasn't very cold. 15 minutes turned into 30, turns into 45 , I'm starting to think SHEESH LADY! Give it a break already I got to get inside, but no! Right when I think I'm home free, right when I think he's done letting her have an unstoppable continuation of strokes! He stands and I'm thinking, he's about to say, okay now baby, that's enough for tonight, instead I look to see he unrobed, he's holding her hair an pulling her back on it harder and faster, she starts telling him she's ready and I'm like holy shit! He straddling this lady (whom I no longer call * the Neighbor's new wife) I cover my mouth an watch as he slides himself inside her without missing a beat! Double PENETRATION WITHOUT a 3rd PARTY! I've seen a lot of pornos in my life but you just can't make this shit up! Something I probably would of stayed to watch the finale but I had the green light while she begged aloud for all of it, to make my dash to the deck. I make it inside and my house is as quiet as when I left. I'm obviously in an odd mental state at this point, I'm even a bit mad, or is it jealous? Do I complain to them like an old grouchy lady, or what was I pissed about? I decided to leave it alone, being a person known for having no filter when talking, my luck I'd attempt to complain and make up something like noise, then quickly end up blurting out that if she kept up the advertising, she'd be single again soon and I'd have a nice hot tub. .

That was Saturday. Smh. What a night. Yeah this weather these days is something else you know. Hehe.That is some stream of consciousness there.

[CurvyChristina]

That is some stream of consciousness there.Well thanks for letting me get it out if nothing else, I remembered one time I did use paragraphs, it was removed for using what was called, hard returns. Though I did consider the (hard return) explanation could be an inside joke among usasg guys, like an uninvited entry into the goose hole on a quick pass or something, but I've always got hit by people who hate bad grammar. I'll own that one. Again I'm very sorry and if A2 or anyone wants to remove it or make it right so it's easier to read, it's your forum guys, I'm just a guest. I expect no favors but highly appreciate them. Let's just hope, my bad grammar is easily over looked in person. Xoxoxo. Have a great night everyone. BTW another fit Bracelet thing was left here. Just text if it's yours. Xoxoxo.

[RogerOver]

I agree, she is my regular and I see her every week. I'm in love with her.If you're serious, that's a little concerning on many levels. Have a good time but keep some perspective dude. It's all transactional. Add that to the fact that Lacey, like most of these girls, can't even begin to keep track of the bullshit they spew.

Don't want to preach, but I've seen guys start saying things like this and set themselves up for some terrible life decisions. Don't be one of those guys.

[Aries25]

If you're serious, that's a little concerning on many levels. Have a good time but keep some perspective dude. It's all transactional. Add that to the fact that Lacey, like most of these girls, can't even begin to keep track of the bullshit they spew.

Don't want to preach, but I've seen guys start saying things like this and set themselves up for some terrible life decisions. Don't be one of those guys.Doesn't really matter since I am lower middle class these girls can't take advantage of me because, well, there isn't much money to take. I've been in the game for half a decade, I've never had a girl as cool as her, but I understand that she doesn't actually like me.

[Observant]

Doesn't really matter since I am lower middle class these girls can't take advantage of me because, well, there isn't much money to take. I've been in the game for half a decade, I've never had a girl as cool as her, but I understand that she doesn't actually like me.I am the last one to judge on what or why you feel. Having been burnt in the past, it took me a rude awakening to see what most of this is usually meant to be.

It is not about "how much" but "what" they can take.

You do your thing brother.

Peace.

Ob.

[Twisted69]

Doesn't really matter since I am lower middle class these girls can't take advantage of me because, well, there isn't much money to take. I've been in the game for half a decade, I've never had a girl as cool as her, but I understand that she doesn't actually like me.I can't seem to locate the post right now, but another monger was doing a "good deed" by letting someone stay with him for a bit til she got back on her feet and ended up with a fake domestic violence charge against him, restrained from his own house, damage to his house and tons of legal fees! My advice leave it at a transactional level! The pretty woman movie is just that fictional.

[RogerOver]

I can't seem to locate the post right now, but another monger was doing a "good deed" by letting someone stay with him for a bit til she got back on her feet and ended up with a fake domestic violence charge against him, restrained from his own house, damage to his house and tons of legal fees! My advice leave it at a transactional level! The pretty woman movie is just that fictional.I remember that post and was thinking about it when I poked my beak in. Wish I had time to hunt it down. It was a FUCKING jaw dropper and a cautionary tale for anyone.

[John HandCock]

I can't seem to locate the post right now, but another monger was doing a "good deed" by letting someone stay with him for a bit til she got back on her feet and ended up with a fake domestic violence charge against him, restrained from his own house, damage to his house and tons of legal fees! My advice leave it at a transactional level! The pretty woman movie is just that fictional.Yep and it doesn't take long amount of time for that to happen. Some states as short of as 24 hours so NEVER move one in.

[RogerOver]

Doesn't really matter since I am lower middle class these girls can't take advantage of me because, well, there isn't much money to take. I've been in the game for half a decade, I've never had a girl as cool as her, but I understand that she doesn't actually like me.


I am the last one to judge on what or why you feel. Having been burnt in the past, it took me a rude awakening to see what most of this is usually meant to be.

It is not about "how much" but "what" they can take.

You do your thing brother.

Peace.

Ob.


I can't seem to locate the post right now, but another monger was doing a "good deed" by letting someone stay with him for a bit til she got back on her feet and ended up with a fake domestic violence charge against him, restrained from his own house, damage to his house and tons of legal fees! My advice leave it at a transactional level! The pretty woman movie is just that fictional.I'm not a robot either, and there's a couple of these girls I've spent enough time with the develop some "affection" for. I just have the benefit of age and experience (I think you said in an ISO you're in your late 20's) to keep me from falling in a hole with these chicks.

Well, that and the fact that I'm a dick. LOL.

Good luck bro.

[WanderingAbout]

Strike 1 = Set appt then NCNS.

Strike 2 = Set appt. She said on way. NCNS #2.

She apologizes. Laundry list of excuses.

Strike 3 = Sets makegood appt. Yup. NCNS #3.

She may be good at what she does but she is also just as good at being an irresponsible NCNS girl.

[BengalMan]

Strike 1 = Set appt then NCNS.

Strike 2 = Set appt. She said on way. NCNS #2.

She apologizes. Laundry list of excuses.

Strike 3 = Sets makegood appt. Yup. NCNS #3.

She may be good at what she does but she is also just as good at being an irresponsible NCNS girl.The poor girl had fine problems, of course.

[BengalMan]

The poor girl had fone problems, of course.Sorry about that.

[BlondeSusie]

I remember everybody that I have met. And Wily Loman is a favorite.

[RogerOver]

Or perhaps maybe. Just maybe. She is low key, discreet and UTR like she said and prefers gentleman that keep their "reviews" and comments between themselves and don't blab them all over the web site? Maybe being low key and discreet means avoiding "senior members" with hundreds of posts? Maybe as she has stated, she enjoys the company of men that are a bit more private and don't find it necessary to report every intimate detail of their time together to the entire internet? I know that will seem radical to some. But perhaps YOU didn't make the cut because of your "too much blather"?

Crazy, I know. But just maybe.And here's a radical thought: no one really gives a fuck what you like or don't like? I mean, aren't you that "van" chick? Seems like that's just one step above streetwalking, so I'm not getting what's so wonderful about you that guys need to be lectured by a barely-above-streetwalking hooker. And do you always talk about yourself in the third person, or is this the cuckold talking?

I know. Call me crazy. I had all the Christmas money I needed. So did a couple of young hot chicks that don't have to troll a board to get attention. No shame in aging out sweetie, but there is in acting like aging out is special or something.


Alas, I gave up. Too much blather. She seems to enjoy leading one on and can never set a date or time. I am sure her and perhaps hubby have been someone's cup of tea but the recommendation to see her has been a bust.

Good luck, stay safe.
TGMSorry for the late response. Missed this one.

[RogerOver]

I remember everybody that I have met. And Wily Loman is a favorite.I think that's Willy Loman - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Loman).

He's fictional too.

[BigGuy3627]

I know I am just a regular member but the talent pool has started drying up fast. I mean Alley sassy silk which I loved they were all that and a bag of chips. These girls were all about the client and they answered your text or call. Guess I am looking for a needle in a haystack. What I have been running across is lack luster poor performance at the best compared to those girls. I am just wanting a regular that I can count on that doesn't act like a flake or has a habit and is a bit of a freak.

[BigMack]

I remember everybody that I have met. And Wily Loman is a favorite.A salesman and he died a horrible death trying to sell Edsels.

[Nky2000]

You are not the only one who misses Silk. I think of her often. RIP.


I know I am just a regular member but the talent pool has started drying up fast. I mean Alley sassy silk which I loved they were all that and a bag of chips. These girls were all about the client and they answered your text or call. Guess I am looking for a needle in a haystack. What I have been running across is lack luster poor performance at the best compared to those girls. I am just wanting a regular that I can count on that doesn't act like a flake or has a habit and is a bit of a freak.

[RogerOver]

I have been hearing that some of our ladies have been slow lately and I think I know why. I was a little bored this morning and decided to see just how many different ladies were posting ads on USAAC. As of 8:22 this morning, there were 51 different providers posting and that doesn't count the ladies who posted multiple ads.

I wonder how long it will be before some of the good ones give up and try to find other work or start traveling to cities that aren't so blessed? If you see someone review them, good or bad to help your brother mongers weed through the chaff of menu.

In alphabetical order:
<snipped for brevity>While I agree with your sentiment, this only seems to be agreeable to you IF the person reviewing says something you agree with. For instance, jumping all over that guy the other day and saying he wasn't credible. Can't have it both ways. Shills like you are chasing off the new guys, and then you start complaining there aren't enough reviews. The very best example of irony.

Well, that and trump supporters needing Medicaid. LOL.

[CrissyLynn2015]

You are not the only one who misses Silk. I think of her often. RIP.She was a good one!

[Upnya]

I remember everybody that I have met. And Wily Loman is a favorite.I met you in the van once several years back. We met at an outdoor mall in NKY in front of a restaurant named after a local radio personality. Your hubby manned the wheel of the van as we headed for a ride. You and I had fun in the back. I was stupid enough to wear athletic pants and my wallet was lost in the back of the van. I have to give you and your husband credit. You made your way back and returned it once I emailed you and told you the news. Thanks for helping me out and bringing it back.

[Dillsborodave]

Been doing this for over 20 years and just had the worst experience ever. In a nutshell I had an out of town provider be very condescending to me upon my arrival. Laid the money down and then said something condescending to me again. I could tell this wasn't going to go well and mentioned to her my feelings. Then she tried to steal my money and threatened me when I grabbed it up quicker than her. I would call her out but this woman is well reviewed and highly praised on another site. After she saw I wasn't too scared of her fighting me she got between me and the door and said she was going to blacklist me from the other site if I didn't give her 200 dollars. I said go ahead and she finally let me pass. I guess the moral of the story is stick to locals and the good women you know. I have an awesome regular but just wanted to try something new and different. If you would like more info on this ordeal you can pm me. I will say she was from Pittsburgh.

[INTravelingMan]

This wouldn't even be in my top 10 worst! Hahahaha sad but true. Been shot at, attempted robbery, attempted blackmailed, and the list goes on. It's a wonder why I still do this but I am just addicted to a hot girl who wants me to bury myself deep inside. Don't put the money down so eagerly next time buddy.


Been doing this for over 20 years and just had the worst experience ever. In a nutshell I had an out of town provider be very condescending to me upon my arrival. Laid the money down and then said something condescending to me again. I could tell this wasn't going to go well and mentioned to her my feelings. Then she tried to steal my money and threatened me when I grabbed it up quicker than her. I would call her out but this woman is well reviewed and highly praised on another site. After she saw I wasn't too scared of her fighting me she got between me and the door and said she was going to blacklist me from the other site if I didn't give her 200 dollars. I said go ahead and she finally let me pass. I guess the moral of the story is stick to locals and the good women you know. I have an awesome regular but just wanted to try something new and different. If you would like more info on this ordeal you can pm me. I will say she was from Pittsburgh.

[Deb4512]

I wouldn't work out of a van and I do think that street walking in far riskier than having an incall I seriously can't say I'm better than they are, although I have in the past, but I was wrong. There's also nothing wrong with reviewing. This is a review board after all.

[Dillsborodave]

This wouldn't even be in my top 10 worst! Hahahaha sad but true. Been shot at, attempted robbery, attempted blackmailed, and the list goes on. It's a wonder why I still do this but I am just addicted to a hot girl who wants me to bury myself deep inside. Don't put the money down so eagerly next time buddy.She has so many good reviews never dreamed of anything happening like that. She had an attitude before I got there by some texts not being translated correctly. Another thing I thought was strange is she told me to wash my hands. LOL Are we cooking food or having sex? If she would have grabbed my money before I did I would have had to get the cops involved. It was a bad situation but I guess it could have been worse. I feel like I should give her a negative review for this on the other site but I know I would end up being the bad guy because everybody else seems to love her.

[Deb4512]

But you ought to wash your hands before sex. Sanitary reasons.