View Full Version : Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"
HuntLadys29
03-24-17, 04:57
I don't think any of them saw me, but I saw them. If they were alone, I may have said something. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate one of us approaching them, when they are with someone. Just as you or I wouldn't appreciate them approaching us.
When Remmy & I used to go to the Race track she'd always say In a whisper, "oh I see one of my clients" she never did anything to bring attention to any of them. I think in most cases even if both parties see each other it will be nothing more than a glance or a smile and that'd be it.
One, that I saw a couple times at the Taco Bell in Cov, was Fantacy Fancy aka Felicia. She has disappeared. Anyone know about her where abouts or well being? She was always super cool with me. Not to mention she could suck the chrome off a Harley. I hope she is well. If anyone knows her contact info and cares to share, pm me.Funny you should mention Fantacy Fancy haven't heard that name in a while, she had the biggest clit I've seen in a while. I saw Little Allie once at a Thorntons I was with the wife she just smiled and said nothing. I wonder what happened to her I know she ripped some people off but I never had a problem with her, she even came to my house a few times never anything missing. She was very cool once you got to know her. HL29.
UOnlyLiveOnce
03-24-17, 05:44
I have been doing this for 6 months and being careful and picky on who I choose to see I have not had any serious issues. Have some questions for everyone out there.
How often and how much do you tip a provider? Do you tip on a first visit or only after you have seen her a time or two?
I often as the provider if I can bring them anything on my way. Typically it's a coffee or soda of some type which is no big deal. A few weeks ago I stopped at McDs to get a drink for someone. As I walked in I saw a friend of mine, no big deal, I have a good excuse for being where I was. But it got me thinking, to what extent to you go to make sure you can't be recognized or your car recognized anywhere?
I don't monger close to home. But I do have some small recognizable things on my car. Do you take these things off? Or don't worry about it?I don't usually tip. When I do, it's because I didn't have the exact amount on me, so I end up tipping by default. I prefer to keep it simple and not create an expectation that I have more than what I really do.
I have an old car that I keep partly because it's great for mongering. It won't stand out in a lower income neighborhood or notel parking lot, but it's still in good enough shape that it won't draw attention in a nicer area either. When possible, I park out of sight from the provider's place about a block away and walk over. If you're talking about a distinctive bumper sticker or something like that, you may want to get rid of it. You never know which providers have lurkers close by.
I've encountered a provider in public only once in the last 5-6 years. This provider is no longer active. It was very close to a place I was working at the time, so I was worried she'd put two and two together and find me through social media or something. She definitely recognized me and her demeanor was unfriendly, but she didn't say anything and I acted as though I didn't recognize her. Not sure why she gave me a bad vibe, as our one encounter was ok. I guess she was afraid I would out her or she didn't feel too good about having been a provider.
IslandDreams
03-24-17, 09:02
I then told him what Crissee had texted me earlier that day. I had texted her "I love all the gossip on the Octagon, don't you? I was surprised when she responded, her first response in weeks, with "Yep reading gossip reminds me of the girls bathroom in Jr High. Amazing how spiteful and nasty people get for attention but you got to do what you got to do to fulfill whatever emptiness one may have inside. I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it".
Mongers experiences with her are much more that a bunch of High school girls talking in the bathroom.
Its sharing experiences of how dangerous she is including, theft from other mongers, turning in drug dealers and being instrumental in sending them to prison, comments from her own family that she may have killed her father, being an active drug addict and placing everyone that she is with at risk, turning her ex brother in law into ICE and getting him deported, actively working with LEO to diminish her charges. And on and on. Those are not rumors a bunch of high school girls talk about those are personal experiences many of us have had, including me. When I quit seeing her it was because she felt invincible (after all she was THE Crissee) and her last comment is absolutely true " I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it". Most business women work hard at making sure their brand is not tainted, not her.
Like I said before, pick anyone you want to play with including her, but whether it is her or any other woman, do your research and know what risk your putting yourself in.
I don't usually tip independent providers (I am not going into the question of whether they are truly independent. I consider them to be independent if they make their own appointments). On a few occasions, when I have seen a particular lady several times, I may bring a gift. I do tip massage parlor ladies. That is part of the whole deal there.
Part of my judgment about whether or not I feel safe in a place is whether or not I am willing to leave my car parked there for an hour or so. I have a parking tag from my work, and I take it down when I am pursuing the hobby. Probably doesn't make much difference, because my license plate is the real identifier, but I do it anyway.
On two occasions, I have been out with members of my family and encountered providers whom I have used. On one occasion, we passed each other on the street. On the other, the provider was working in a restaurant where I ate. In both cases, we ignored each other. I don't even know if they recognized me, but I recognized them. Once, a session ended early, because, as the lady and I were getting undressed, she said, "Aren't you related to. ," a friend of hers outside of the hobby / business, and we decided that we couldn't go through with it.
Once, a session ended early, because, as the lady and I were getting undressed, she said, "Aren't you related to. ," a friend of hers outside of the hobby / business, and we decided that we couldn't go through with it.I am sure it happens that some of the ladies we encounter knows someone we know but that would freak me out.
I think you did the right thing. I could not imagine if some one in my family were to say "Oh provider so and so said you stopped by. Did you have a good time?
I try my best to stay anonymous. If it happened to me I probably would not come out for a while.
Now go have fun.
Fdx.
How up to date is the info that is posted on this site. So of the ladies reviewed on it haven't posted anything in a very long time. It list their info and sometimes as I read the reviews it seems like some of the reviews on this site, but dated late. Just wanted to see how recent the reviews are.
Thanks for any info.
How up to date is the info that is posted on this site. So of the ladies reviewed on it haven't posted anything in a very long time. It list their info and sometimes as I read the reviews it seems like some of the reviews on this site, but dated late. Just wanted to see how recent the reviews are.
Thanks for any info.I think they went under a long time ago. Info is dated and not current. If three year info is your thing, go for it. Otherwise ignore it.
FireNice49
03-28-17, 22:16
I wish there were some quality providers here in Northern Kentucky that work more than just Bankers hours.
I wish there were some quality providers here in Northern Kentucky that work more than just Bankers hours.There are keep reaching out. Littlesexyass, AshleighDD, Sydney Moore all come to mind.
I think they went under a long time ago. Info is dated and not current. If three year info is your thing, go for it. Otherwise ignore it.Outdated info for sure is not my thing, I appreciate the quick response.
Outdated info for sure is not my thing, I appreciate the quick response.No TER is active and up to date. I review on there myself on occasion. Reviews there are no more or no less reliable than on here.
No TER is active and up to date. I review on there myself on occasion. Reviews there are no more or no less reliable than on here.I stand corrected. I thought it eventually folded after their founder was arrested.
No TER is active and up to date. I review on there myself on occasion. Reviews there are no more or no less reliable than on here.I also posted a review on it a few months ago. And a couple days later it was up.
I also posted a review on it a few months ago. And a couple days later it was up.This is what I was wondering because some reviews are fairly recent and the ladies don't or have had ads up. But reviews are still being posted and hoping to commect with some of the ladies.
Mongers experiences with her are much more that a bunch of High school girls talking in the bathroom.
Its sharing experiences of how dangerous she is including, theft from other mongers, turning in drug dealers and being instrumental in sending them to prison, comments from her own family that she may have killed her father, being an active drug addict and placing everyone that she is with at risk, turning her ex brother in law into ICE and getting him deported, actively working with LEO to diminish her charges. And on and on. Those are not rumors a bunch of high school girls talk about those are personal experiences many of us have had, including me. When I quit seeing her it was because she felt invincible (after all she was THE Crissee) and her last comment is absolutely true " I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it". Most business women work hard at making sure their brand is not tainted, not her.
Like I said before, pick anyone you want to play with including her, but whether it is her or any other woman, do your research and know what risk your putting yourself in.Conducting a visit / dream with this young lady is a significant risk if half of what is communicated in the aforementioned post is accurate. I am not questioning the vality or accuracy of the post, but that seems to be extreme and dangerous behavior that reflects a disregard for self and others. I believe this is one reason why it is essential that we mongers provide accurate descriptions of the services and other observations we notice during our encounters. Understandably what may constitute outstanding service to one, may be rated as average or below my others. But the presence of drug paraphernalia and fresh needle marks are pretty much evidence of a dependence. I don't wish ill of no one and hope what ever trials and tribulations that one is enduring will pass expeditously. Be safe guys and as shared in the previous post. Do your research.
I stand corrected. I thought it eventually folded after their founder was arrested.Your assumption is understandable. TER cut ties with the founder 8 years ago after he was charged with assault and conspiracy to traffic in drugs among other charges. He was the founder of course but he wasn't the sole owner and he was accused of extorting sex from a lot of the girls in exchange for positive reviews.
I get accused of that all the time. Some guys must think I have a 6,000 mile long dick
A2
Your assumption is understandable. TER cut ties with the founder 8 years ago after he was charged with assault and conspiracy to traffic in drugs among other charges. He was the founder of course but he wasn't the sole owner and he was accused of extorting sex from a lot of the girls in exchange for positive reviews.
I get accused of that all the time. Some guys must think I have a 6,000 mile long dick
A2I never thought that about you A2. I figured 3 or 4 thousand miles. Tops.
I'd lie cheat and steal for a Molly, Silkey spin off though. I tell you I'd do that without even thinking.
A2
This is what I was wondering because some reviews are fairly recent and the ladies don't or have had ads up. But reviews are still being posted and hoping to commect with some of the ladies.The high end ladies I have seen prefer TER. They wanted me to review them on TER. But I like USASG better.
HuntLadys29
03-30-17, 20:46
You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.
Doingitmyway
03-30-17, 21:19
You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.You just saved me a bunch of typing.
John HandCock
03-30-17, 22:46
You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.I add when contacting them if I don't here back by whatever time I decide to give them to respond that I will contact someone else. Very seldom will you get a random call unless your dealing with the chemical users.
CrissyLynn2015
03-31-17, 11:48
Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.
Who left there phone out and about so your fiance could get a hold of it? I just got this message " How do you know my fiance?" First time ever in this hobby for me.
I only have one thing to say, " Gentlemen hide your phone's, delete your messages, bury your burner phone. I do not like to be put in this spot. ".
VR.Hon, you should have said, "I sell faux fragrances and I tried to sell him some, but he said he would only buy the real thing for you. " Obviously he didn't have any text messages stored, one hopes, or else she was fishing.
Cheech.
I never thought that about you A2. I figured 3 or 4 thousand miles. Tops.
I'd lie cheat and steal for a Molly, Silkey spin off though. I tell you I'd do that without even thinking.
A2I suspect all you would have to do is send them a ticket and make sure they have a passport, LOL.
Cheech.
There is no such thing as being too careful. And most of us really, really appreciate that. Keep it up.
Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.
Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.CL-.
You can't be too careful. Missing out on one client is a lot cheaper than a lawyer for getting busted, etc. Speaking for myself, your being careful makes it safer for me as well. You do what feels right for you!
And no, we haven't connected- yet.
The good dr.
RustyNailsYou
03-31-17, 15:59
Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.I have seen you and enjoyed our time together.
Your screening process is totally understandable. You have more to lose than most girls.
And I need discretion too.
Stay safe and have fun along the way.
Rusty.
OneBigRichard
03-31-17, 17:53
Ok, so I have been doing this for quite some time now & I've definitely had my ups and downs, more upset than downs, I'll be honest. I've met some really wonderful men & whether seeing me or not still remain friends! But when someone new tries to contact me, I'm very strict on who I see. My friends know that I work from my private residence so for me on THIS end of the hobby, I have to be. But usually what I request is for someone to write me on here to verify if they are a USA member, some get upset because maybe they can't log in right then and there to write me and then there's the men that are very new and have only seen one or even no one at that point! I understand but as much as I look out for my safety, I look out for my friends safety as well. I'd hate to meet the wrong friend and BOOM my phone's took. Things are looked at SMH. I mean, I use an app for friends I talk to, so I figure they take me, in uninstalling sappo LOL but STILL there are risks! I have two sons I take care of full time as well, that's a huge factor on why I kinda make yuh go the distance to o see me! I can't say I DO IT all the time but if I have even the slightest guy feeling, I do request a pm on here. Sorry for the rant, I'm just wondering. Am I being too careful. ? Can you even be Too careful? Most important things about our hobby is privacy! Idk. LOL sorry.We have spent several Magical moments together. Tho its been a while, because of your new hour available. You have to take care of you, just like we gentelman try to do. You have always had good thing said about you. Stand your ground. A couple of ben franklin aren't worth the risk. Take care sexy OBR.
Whathesaid
03-31-17, 18:15
Hon, you should have said, "I sell faux fragrances and I tried to sell him some, but he said he would only buy the real thing for you. " Obviously he didn't have any text messages stored, one hopes, or else she was fishing.
Cheech.Guys, get cameras. Good ones.
Because if the SO asks about strange messages on your phone, you can always say you got paid taking the lady's picture. Wink!
However this will not work if you see one of the ladies from TN who are also professional photograpers outside the hobby. Sad face.
You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.I give 2 hours between the my text to girl #1, to girl #2. Often enough, I finally get a reply back from #1 offering availability, to which I just simply say, "Sorry. It's been X hours and thought you might not be available so I contacted someone else. Perhaps next time. ".
This does 2 things. First, it let's them know that unlike boyfriends or suitors, customers will not wait forever because there are other options. Second, if they don't delete the messages (good or bad, is a debate for another time), the next time I send them a message, they will see from the previous message that unlike some other mongers, I am not the type that will wait around forever. I get a faster response to set up an appointment.
Cost to me, $0 for moving on. Cost to them $$ and the chance of paying their rent.
I give 2 hours between the my text to girl #1, to girl #2. Often enough, I finally get a reply back from #1 offering availability, to which I just simply say, "Sorry. It's been X hours and thought you might not be available so I contacted someone else. Perhaps next time. ".
This does 2 things. First, it let's them know that unlike boyfriends or suitors, customers will not wait forever because there are other options. Second, if they don't delete the messages (good or bad, is a debate for another time), the next time I send them a message, they will see from the previous message that unlike some other mongers, I am not the type that will wait around forever. I get a faster response to set up an appointment.
Cost to me, $0 for moving on. Cost to them $$ and the chance of paying their rent.I text 3 or 4 and let them race to see who answers first. But I did get burned by SincyCinnamon who double booked me so it cuts both ways.
Dick Morehead
04-01-17, 04:27
No TER is active and up to date. I review on there myself on occasion. Reviews there are no more or no less reliable than on here.I have found TER to be a pretty reliable tool, especially for trying to find info on traveling providers or providers that are not listing with USA. It in some respects easier to navigate than some sites as all of a girls' reviews are typically located in one place. Even if you are not a paying member of TER you can easily get contact info, posting site (s), physical description, and if they are real or scam. The 'general details' part of the review usually tells you if a reviewing monger would repeat or not and if the set up was easy or difficult. If a provider has several reviews listed you can easily ascertain if that they are legit. If you decide to pay the monthly fee (or post a couple reviews a month) you get to see the juicy details of the review which should tell ya whether they provide what you are interested in purchasing. USA is more up to date with current talent and certainly provides great info and valuable input about the local scene. When I see a post on USA that I find interesting I use TER as one of the tools to do further research. Be careful out there.
Just curious if anyone has ever partaken and how they would rate the experience. Seems kinda dodgy and legit, with it being legal in Germany, at the same time. Can see that it would only work for the divorced or single among us. Or if you can convincingly lie about a "business conference" you have to attend overseas.
Would be my luck that I would get into a vehicle at the airport and a hood immediately goes over my head with a Russian man saying "we make you our ***** now" LOL.
I give 2 hours between the my text to girl #1, to girl #2. Often enough, I finally get a reply back from #1 offering availability, to which I just simply say, "Sorry. It's been X hours and thought you might not be available so I contacted someone else. Perhaps next time. ".
This does 2 things. First, it let's them know that unlike boyfriends or suitors, customers will not wait forever because there are other options. Second, if they don't delete the messages (good or bad, is a debate for another time), the next time I send them a message, they will see from the previous message that unlike some other mongers, I am not the type that will wait around forever. I get a faster response to set up an appointment.
Cost to me, $0 for moving on. Cost to them $$ and the chance of paying their rent.But I seriously doubt most of these girls think far or deep enough to catch on to any of that. The higher end or stable, reviewed ones already get it.
But I seriously doubt most of these girls think far or deep enough to catch on to any of that. The higher end or stable, reviewed ones already get it.Sorry that movie has so many funny quotes. You are right most girls follow the water analogy, meaning the path of least resistance or least effort. I have been told by many that if there are 3 of us texting them they pick the greatest reward for the least effort. The reason they are not honest, dare I say is that if the first plan does not pan out for them then they go to option 2. And even sometimes they get the first and then act like they had problems to get option 2 as a bonus. After all it is just like fishing for both sides of the game. When you weigh in at the end of the day you want to be the one with the most. Be safe.
I have found TER to be a pretty reliable tool, especially for trying to find info on traveling providers or providers that are not listing with USA. It in some respects easier to navigate than some sites as all of a girls' reviews are typically located in one place. Even if you are not a paying member of TER you can easily get contact info, posting site (s), physical description, and if they are real or scam. The 'general details' part of the review usually tells you if a reviewing monger would repeat or not and if the set up was easy or difficult. If a provider has several reviews listed you can easily ascertain if that they are legit. If you decide to pay the monthly fee (or post a couple reviews a month) you get to see the juicy details of the review which should tell ya whether they provide what you are interested in purchasing. USA is more up to date with current talent and certainly provides great info and valuable input about the local scene. When I see a post on USA that I find interesting I use TER as one of the tools to do further research. Be careful out there.I agree with you on this, I always search USASG first as you get more info. TER is another useful tool. As a matter of fact I will be posting a review on Jemma Jade today on TER.
Sorry that movie has so many funny quotes. You are right most girls follow the water analogy, meaning the path of least resistance or least effort. I have been told by many that if there are 3 of us texting them they pick the greatest reward for the least effort. The reason they are not honest, dare I say is that if the first plan does not pan out for them then they go to option 2. And even sometimes they get the first and then act like they had problems to get option 2 as a bonus. After all it is just like fishing for both sides of the game. When you weigh in at the end of the day you want to be the one with the most. Be safe.I know I'm not in the greater majority here, but when I find one (or a few) I like, I tend to stick with them. I've never fucked most of the flavor of the week around here. As soon as I see "air mattress" or "basement" or anything like it I cross it out.
I know it sounds like a humble brag, but I'm a middle aged, fairly wealthy guy. I'm not fucking on a goddamn air mattress. Just saying, and I don't judge.
First Half
04-02-17, 14:00
I know I'm not in the greater majority here, but when I find one (or a few) I like, I tend to stick with them. I've never fucked most of the flavor of the week around here. As soon as I see "air mattress" or "basement" or anything like it I cross it out.
I know it sounds like a humble brag, but I'm a middle aged, fairly wealthy guy. I'm not fucking on a goddamn air mattress. Just saying, and I don't judge.Just kidding, but I think you are locking down one that I really like. Nisha?
Why is it when you see someone for the first time or whatever the case may be that you try hard to accommodate them, whether it be seeing them on short notice, or wearing your makeup and hair how they ask for it, or anything else you can think of to appease the client and make the visit as lovely as possible and as you're getting ready to walk them out they say how much fun they had and that they'll give you a nice review and they leave and you think all is well. Until you get on here the next day and they have wrote a review but they completely trash you. I mean tear you apart and pick at every detail you can imagine and criticize you in the meanest way they can. And if we were to say anything after the client trashed us we look even worse because the rest of the guys on here think were just trying to start shit over the nasty review written about us. Why tell us you had a lovely time and then turn around and post you had a bad time and that we were awful. I'm more humble these days because I've lost everything and I'm trying to come back from it. If I don't work, I don't eat. And I always try to remember that not all people click and I might not be everyone's cup of tea, but still there's no reason to try and crucify me with a nasty review. It just seems that sometimes you guys go overboard with the hurtful comments and then nitpicking about everything about us. Were still human ya know.
It's because you are focusing on the few that do that, your reviews are ok overall. The answer to your question sugar is because some people are assholes. Shit like that is going to happen on this forum, either get used to it or stop reading.
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Simp4ebony
04-03-17, 06:26
Just kidding, but I think you are locking down one that I really like. Nisha?Nisha? KeyLow's UTR girl from a while back? I tried to hook up with her again and she made it sound like she was out of the hobby. I'd love to see her again!
TheGenteelMan
04-03-17, 07:09
Why is it when you see someone for the first time or whatever the case may be that you try hard to accommodate them, whether it be seeing them on short notice, or wearing your makeup and hair how they ask for it, or anything else you can think of to appease the client and make the visit as lovely as possible and as you're getting ready to walk them out they say how much fun they had and that they'll give you a nice review and they leave and you think all is well. Until you get on here the next day and they have wrote a review but they completely trash you. I mean tear you apart and pick at every detail you can imagine and criticize you in the meanest way they can. And if we were to say anything after the client trashed us we look even worse because the rest of the guys on here think were just trying to start shit over the nasty review written about us. Why tell us you had a lovely time and then turn around and post you had a bad time and that we were awful. I'm more humble these days because I've lost everything and I'm trying to come back from it. If I don't work, I don't eat. And I always try to remember that not all people click and I might not be everyone's cup of tea, but still there's no reason to try and crucify me with a nasty review. It just seems that sometimes you guys go overboard with the hurtful comments and then nitpicking about everything about us. Were still human ya know.
At the risk of sounding patronizing... Even the blind person who listens intently can see :)
In other words, no review is a bad review relative to a lesson that may be gleaned from it.
Good luck, stay safe doll.
TGM
Member #5522
04-03-17, 07:37
She is off the market. Someone is giving her the 2 k a month she was seeking and is now their SB.
She was fun and has the finest ass I have ever had my hands on.
Nisha? KeyLow's UTR girl from a while back? I tried to hook up with her again and she made it sound like she was out of the hobby. I'd love to see her again!
I know I'm not in the greater majority here, but when I find one (or a few) I like, I tend to stick with them. I've never fucked most of the flavor of the week around here. As soon as I see "air mattress" or "basement" or anything like it I cross it out.
I know it sounds like a humble brag, but I'm a middle aged, fairly wealthy guy. I'm not fucking on a goddamn air mattress. Just saying, and I don't judge.Yeah. I agree. There were a few flavor of the months that I passed on because of stuff like that. I have worked too hard for too long to pay $$ for a roll on air mattress in the basement. If their location isn't up to snuff for a $200/ hr session, just offer outcalls. This insistence that someone paying them 2 benjamins will be happy with street walker accommodations is beyond me; even more so that some guys are willing to put up with it.
UOnlyLiveOnce
04-03-17, 10:38
I know I'm not in the greater majority here, but when I find one (or a few) I like, I tend to stick with them. I've never fucked most of the flavor of the week around here. As soon as I see "air mattress" or "basement" or anything like it I cross it out.
I know it sounds like a humble brag, but I'm a middle aged, fairly wealthy guy. I'm not fucking on a goddamn air mattress. Just saying, and I don't judge.But I will put up with quite a bit for a cute young thing. A few years ago when I had my hands on Vanessa's tight 19 year old ass, I pretty much forgot about the trashed kitchen I saw on my way to her bed.
There's one provider I saw 5 times and a few I saw 4 times. Otherwise, mostly 1-3 dreams per provider here. Sometimes that's because they've dropped out of the hobby or they had a rapid decline, sometimes it's because I want get with as many women as I can before I'm too old.
At the risk of sounding patronizing... Even the blind person who listens intently can see :)
In other words, no review is a bad review relative to a lesson that may be gleaned from it.
Good luck, stay safe doll.
TGMWell thank you love I think your opinion is biased because you've seen me before and I actually think you meant what you said when you left saying and had a good time. It's been a long time since I've been on the east side I don't miss being over there far away from everything. But I would like to see you again I really do hope maybe we can work that out soon and thank you for the kind words I'm sure everyone else tear into me over this.
That this is for today, Tuesday. Please don't contact me after 10 or Wednesday. They have no idea what day today or tomorrow is you must tell them.
You text a girl Tuesday morning 10 am with something simple " are you available " they text back Wednesday afternoon at 3 pm with " yes I'm available ". Like you've been waiting for 32 hours by your phone chewing on your fingernails waiting for her return text. When you tell them you called yesterday they text back with the perfect excuse, " my phone died ". And when they text back it's usually at the wrong time, you're at work, talking to the wife, or at the kids or grandkids game. I just wish they would use common sense and see that if someone wanted to see you 36 hours ago and didn't get in touch with you the chances of them wanting to see you a day and a half later are pretty remote and you just might be doing something other than sitting at home hoping they will returned your text. Thanks rant over. HL29.
She is off the market. Someone is giving her the 2 k a month she was seeking and is now their SB.
She was fun and has the finest ass I have ever had my hands on.+1. There for a minute, the SD was 'allowing' her to date, but I guess no more.
Raider1687
04-04-17, 10:08
Yeah. I agree. There were a few flavor of the months that I passed on because of stuff like that. I have worked too hard for too long to pay $$ for a roll on air mattress in the basement. If their location isn't up to snuff for a $200/ hr session, just offer outcalls. This insistence that someone paying them 2 benjamins will be happy with street walker accommodations is beyond me; even more so that some guys are willing to put up with it.Just wanted to let you know that there is another side of the coin. Some of us can't understand why you care where you are fucking her, she is letting you fuck her. I would certainly show up to the local frozen pond to watch Wayne Gretzky play hockey again and I would eat a Tony's steak in my car. Some of us are there to bang the girls because that is what we are there to do, not judge them.
OneBigRichard
04-04-17, 20:18
Yeah. I agree. There were a few flavor of the months that I passed on because of stuff like that. I have worked too hard for too long to pay $$ for a roll on air mattress in the basement. If their location isn't up to snuff for a $200/ hr session, just offer outcalls. This insistence that someone paying them 2 benjamins will be happy with street walker accommodations is beyond me; even more so that some guys are willing to put up with it.I'm with you mr nut. My deal breakers 1 drug use in reviews 2 boy friend or handler around, 3 air mattress, 4 friend waiting in the bathroom, 5 waste my time setting up, 6 I only try twice to set something up and if or when she goes crickets. I'm not looking to try the most. I just look for the best at what they do. I've been playing with a couple utr, it's getting hard to get time with the ladies lately, I bet I tried 5 of our best over the weekend, no response. Be safe OBR.
ILikeWatch
04-05-17, 06:26
A new bill introduced by Rep. Ann * (not sure if I can use her last name) has the potential to erode the protections of Section 230 afforded to sites like this. It has the title "Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act of 2017". Hard to disagree with that. The thing is that it will open up the possibility of websites being charged criminally for the content posted by users. Think of any websites that may have a problem with that? If you are interested in following this a good starting point is http://www.vocativ.com/417954/sex-trafficking-law-free-speech-online/ Be safe.
Member #5522
04-05-17, 09:04
In my younger years, I could get just about any cutie I set my mind to. That was 3 decades ago. Now, if I want to bang young hotties, I pay for the pleasure.
I'll pay for a BJ in a car but I'm not a contortionist, so sex in a car is behind me.
I'll put up with more than most to get close to the hotness that I have my sights set on. If they prove worth it, I'll see them repeatedly. If not, I banged a hot piece of ass and I move onto the next focal point.
Just wanted to let you know that there is another side of the coin. Some of us can't understand why you care where you are fucking her, she is letting you fuck her. I would certainly show up to the local frozen pond to watch Wayne Gretzky play hockey again and I would eat a Tony's steak in my car. Some of us are there to bang the girls because that is what we are there to do, not judge them.
DeepBlue798
04-05-17, 10:08
Nice anaology. Let me counter you with another. I believe the idea is this.
If I am paying for almost the same price of Tony's steak for a McDonald burger, then at least I would like to be seated and served; with some nice utensils as well.
What I am getting and for how much I am getting it for, will determine if I am going to be happy with an air-mattress or not.
Just wanted to let you know that there is another side of the coin. Some of us can't understand why you care where you are fucking her, she is letting you fuck her. I would certainly show up to the local frozen pond to watch Wayne Gretzky play hockey again and I would eat a Tony's steak in my car. Some of us are there to bang the girls because that is what we are there to do, not judge them.
Dr Kenneth W
04-05-17, 10:34
A new bill introduced by Rep. Ann * (not sure if I can use her last name) has the potential to erode the protections of Section 230 afforded to sites like this. It has the title "Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act of 2017". Hard to disagree with that. The thing is that it will open up the possibility of websites being charged criminally for the content posted by users. Think of any websites that may have a problem with that? If you are interested in following this a good starting point is http://www.vocativ.com/417954/sex-trafficking-law-free-speech-online/ Be safe.I am under the impression that this site operates outside the jurisdiction of the USA.
This is Manda, all tied up. She is becoming one of my ATFs. She has it all. Beauty, skills, personality and she swallows.
This is Manda, all tied up. She is becoming one of my ATFs. She has it all. Beauty, skills, personality and she swallows.I'm quitting my job and moving to Memphis! Love all the pics you send Gman!
This is Manda, all tied up. She is becoming one of my ATFs. She has it all. Beauty, skills, personality and she swallows.You tie those knots yourself?
Great pic, BTW.
You tie those knots yourself?
Great pic, BTW.No, her husband did. I can't tie knots for shit. I was kicked out of the cub scouts.
I was kicked out of the cub scouts.For eating brownies.
With the recent dustup on here between BR and Brookee I just wanted to highlight a couple of things that seem to have been lost.
The ladies on here are first and foremost, businesswomen; independent contractors, or even employed by someone. The hobbyists on here need to recognize that fact. Their reputations, ARE the currency of the realm around here for every provider. There are ladies that are unreliable, lay there like a dead fish, don; t kiss, do kiss, give the best service ever, or the worst--The reviews we give should and will highlight these FACTS about your particular experience. The problem that I want to address is when we deviate from these things in a cupla ways--1) As consumers or providers on this site, no one should EVER traffic in rumor--If you saw a needle or a track mark, you should report EXACTLY that, If her service isn't up to par, you should report EXACTLY that, If she is out of it, report it. BUT, don't take whatever research you have done, and combine it with a misperceived slight, to jump to conclusions. BR and Brookee have been wonderful, mostly reliable providers on here--report they are hard to get a hold of, don; t bring in rumor and innuendo about dope boy boyfriends and multiple mongers screening--Give them the credit their reputations have earned--And call them out when they slip up. 2) Negotiating--and this is more for the providers than the mongers--When there is an advertised price associated with a time, Don; t negotiate--You are business women, Take care of business-I work from xxx time to yyyy time, I'll return texts no later than 15 minutes if I am in an appointment, and my rates are zzzz" That's it--the second someone tells you he will give you less than you advertised, tell him to pound sand--If you are a good provider, and you are professional, the clients will come to you. And guys--a little consideration for the ladies as well--They are working hard for us--Unless there is a question about what is on the menu or the price, don; t try and haggle too hard. This is their living, If you have the discretionary income to partake, do it without nickle and dimeing them to the penny--let them pay for an extra pair of shoes for their child or dog--they will appreciate it! 3) Communication--From both sides. If you get a text, return it when you can, and state clearly in your ad, that your window to return is 15 minutes, to prevent unwanted texts 3 hrs later when the SO is now within hearing distance of the phone. DO NOT return texts or calls many hours later, or unsolicited, UNLESS you have enough of a relationship with the guy that you know there is no SO and you won; t be screwing them by texting late. When you set an appointment--Stick with it!! If something comes up, communicate that you can; t do it now--you should NEVER, EVER ghost someone. For Mongers--Same rules apply--Send a text every 15 minutes for about an hour, or let her know in your initial text she can respond at anytime with no problem. If you set an appointment, keep it--If something comes up, communicate-If you send out 4 text to find a providers, When you get a bite and make an appointment, have the common courtesy to resend the text to the ones you didn't choose, saying you are no longer interested--NEVER EVER ghost someone.
This is my opinion about this--It may seem like I am Knighting--really not trying to, just want everyone involved to remember that this is a business, no different, functionally, than walking into a restaurant, giving (and taking) an order and providing the services requested for a defined fee. Don; t give shitty Yelp Reviews because your ex-girlfriend works there or the Manager cut you off on the highway, or try to get the waiter to give you the Filet for the price of the Ribeye.Very well said. As we all have improving to do. I completly agree!!
LadyShay69
04-10-17, 15:27
With the recent dustup on here between BR and Brookee I just wanted to highlight a couple of things that seem to have been lost.
The ladies on here are first and foremost, businesswomen; independent contractors, or even employed by someone. The hobbyists on here need to recognize that fact. Their reputations, ARE the currency of the realm around here for every provider. There are ladies that are unreliable, lay there like a dead fish, don; t kiss, do kiss, give the best service ever, or the worst--The reviews we give should and will highlight these FACTS about your particular experience. The problem that I want to address is when we deviate from these things in a cupla ways--1) As consumers or providers on this site, no one should EVER traffic in rumor--If you saw a needle or a track mark, you should report EXACTLY that, If her service isn't up to par, you should report EXACTLY that, If she is out of it, report it. BUT, don't take whatever research you have done, and combine it with a misperceived slight, to jump to conclusions. BR and Brookee have been wonderful, mostly reliable providers on here--report they are hard to get a hold of, don; t bring in rumor and innuendo about dope boy boyfriends and multiple mongers screening--Give them the credit their reputations have earned--And call them out when they slip up. 2) Negotiating--and this is more for the providers than the mongers--When there is an advertised price associated with a time, Don; t negotiate--You are business women, Take care of business-I work from xxx time to yyyy time, I'll return texts no later than 15 minutes if I am in an appointment, and my rates are zzzz" That's it--the second someone tells you he will give you less than you advertised, tell him to pound sand--If you are a good provider, and you are professional, the clients will come to you. And guys--a little consideration for the ladies as well--They are working hard for us--Unless there is a question about what is on the menu or the price, don; t try and haggle too hard. This is their living, If you have the discretionary income to partake, do it without nickle and dimeing them to the penny--let them pay for an extra pair of shoes for their child or dog--they will appreciate it! 3) Communication--From both sides. If you get a text, return it when you can, and state clearly in your ad, that your window to return is 15 minutes, to prevent unwanted texts 3 hrs later when the SO is now within hearing distance of the phone. DO NOT return texts or calls many hours later, or unsolicited, UNLESS you have enough of a relationship with the guy that you know there is no SO and you won; t be screwing them by texting late. When you set an appointment--Stick with it!! If something comes up, communicate that you can; t do it now--you should NEVER, EVER ghost someone. For Mongers--Same rules apply--Send a text every 15 minutes for about an hour, or let her know in your initial text she can respond at anytime with no problem. If you set an appointment, keep it--If something comes up, communicate-If you send out 4 text to find a providers, When you get a bite and make an appointment, have the common courtesy to resend the text to the ones you didn't choose, saying you are no longer interested--NEVER EVER ghost someone.
This is my opinion about this--It may seem like I am Knighting--really not trying to, just want everyone involved to remember that this is a business, no different, functionally, than walking into a restaurant, giving (and taking) an order and providing the services requested for a defined fee. Don; t give shitty Yelp Reviews because your ex-girlfriend works there or the Manager cut you off on the highway, or try to get the waiter to give you the Filet for the price of the Ribeye.For me being new to the community this is a great tool to have.
Stay Safe,
LS69.
Whathesaid
04-11-17, 02:03
I am under the impression that this site operates outside the jurisdiction of the USA.This site does operate offshore.
The fear is that US ISPs may ultimately somehow be required to "block" offshore sites in the name of Freedumb. "respecting women" . Honoring one or more of the Ten Commandments. Or something. Ugh.
Gunman2013
04-11-17, 14:57
I have reached out to 7 provider's today. 2 text back then crickets. WTF.
TenBucks22
04-11-17, 15:45
I have reached out to 7 provider's today. 2 text back then crickets. WTF.As you are having GM. I have reached out to 5 and have heard nothing. One of which I see quarterly or so. Had the nice room ready for our planned few hours (planned and set up last week) and have gotten nothing from her for a few days. The other 4 are advertising on this site. Not sure I get it. Guess I'll try again for my 3 hour open window tomorrow. Maybe if I'm lucky, I'll get a PM from someone who has some time on their hands. Geez.
Cincyfunguy
04-11-17, 17:10
With the recent dustup on here between BR and Brookee I just wanted to highlight a couple of things that seem to have been lost.
The ladies on here are first and foremost, businesswomen; independent contractors, or even employed by someone. The hobbyists on here need to recognize that fact. Their reputations, ARE the currency of the realm around here for every provider. There are ladies that are unreliable, lay there like a dead fish, don; t kiss, do kiss, give the best service ever, or the worst--The reviews we give should and will highlight these FACTS about your particular experience. The problem that I want to address is when we deviate from these things in a cupla ways--1) As consumers or providers on this site, no one should EVER traffic in rumor--If you saw a needle or a track mark, you should report EXACTLY that, If her service isn't up to par, you should report EXACTLY that, If she is out of it, report it. BUT, don't take whatever research you have done, and combine it with a misperceived slight, to jump to conclusions. BR and Brookee have been wonderful, mostly reliable providers on here--report they are hard to get a hold of, don; t bring in rumor and innuendo about dope boy boyfriends and multiple mongers screening--Give them the credit their reputations have earned--And call them out when they slip up. 2) Negotiating--and this is more for the providers than the mongers--When there is an advertised price associated with a time, Don; t negotiate--You are business women, Take care of business-I work from xxx time to yyyy time, I'll return texts no later than 15 minutes if I am in an appointment, and my rates are zzzz" That's it--the second someone tells you he will give you less than you advertised, tell him to pound sand--If you are a good provider, and you are professional, the clients will come to you. And guys--a little consideration for the ladies as well--They are working hard for us--Unless there is a question about what is on the menu or the price, don; t try and haggle too hard. This is their living, If you have the discretionary income to partake, do it without nickle and dimeing them to the penny--let them pay for an extra pair of shoes for their child or dog--they will appreciate it! 3) Communication--From both sides. If you get a text, return it when you can, and state clearly in your ad, that your window to return is 15 minutes, to prevent unwanted texts 3 hrs later when the SO is now within hearing distance of the phone. DO NOT return texts or calls many hours later, or unsolicited, UNLESS you have enough of a relationship with the guy that you know there is no SO and you won; t be screwing them by texting late. When you set an appointment--Stick with it!! If something comes up, communicate that you can; t do it now--you should NEVER, EVER ghost someone. For Mongers--Same rules apply--Send a text every 15 minutes for about an hour, or let her know in your initial text she can respond at anytime with no problem. If you set an appointment, keep it--If something comes up, communicate-If you send out 4 text to find a providers, When you get a bite and make an appointment, have the common courtesy to resend the text to the ones you didn't choose, saying you are no longer interested--NEVER EVER ghost someone.
This is my opinion about this--It may seem like I am Knighting--really not trying to, just want everyone involved to remember that this is a business, no different, functionally, than walking into a restaurant, giving (and taking) an order and providing the services requested for a defined fee. Don; t give shitty Yelp Reviews because your ex-girlfriend works there or the Manager cut you off on the highway, or try to get the waiter to give you the Filet for the price of the Ribeye.Very well said, and applicable on both sides of the hobby. Respect goes a long, long way!
CFG.
With the recent dustup on here between BR and Brookee I just wanted to highlight a couple of things that seem to have been lost.
The ladies on here are first and foremost, businesswomen; independent contractors, or even employed by someone. The hobbyists on here need to recognize that fact. Their reputations, ARE the currency of the realm around here for every provider. There are ladies that are unreliable, lay there like a dead fish, don; t kiss, do kiss, give the best service ever, or the worst--The reviews we give should and will highlight these FACTS about your particular experience. The problem that I want to address is when we deviate from these things in a cupla ways--1) As consumers or providers on this site, no one should EVER traffic in rumor--If you saw a needle or a track mark, you should report EXACTLY that, If her service isn't up to par, you should report EXACTLY that, If she is out of it, report it. BUT, don't take whatever research you have done, and combine it with a misperceived slight, to jump to conclusions. BR and Brookee have been wonderful, mostly reliable providers on here--report they are hard to get a hold of, don; t bring in rumor and innuendo about dope boy boyfriends and multiple mongers screening--Give them the credit their reputations have earned--And call them out when they slip up. 2) Negotiating--and this is more for the providers than the mongers--When there is an advertised price associated with a time, Don; t negotiate--You are business women, Take care of business-I work from xxx time to yyyy time, I'll return texts no later than 15 minutes if I am in an appointment, and my rates are zzzz" That's it--the second someone tells you he will give you less than you advertised, tell him to pound sand--If you are a good provider, and you are professional, the clients will come to you. And guys--a little consideration for the ladies as well--They are working hard for us--Unless there is a question about what is on the menu or the price, don; t try and haggle too hard. This is their living, If you have the discretionary income to partake, do it without nickle and dimeing them to the penny--let them pay for an extra pair of shoes for their child or dog--they will appreciate it! 3) Communication--From both sides. If you get a text, return it when you can, and state clearly in your ad, that your window to return is 15 minutes, to prevent unwanted texts 3 hrs later when the SO is now within hearing distance of the phone. DO NOT return texts or calls many hours later, or unsolicited, UNLESS you have enough of a relationship with the guy that you know there is no SO and you won; t be screwing them by texting late. When you set an appointment--Stick with it!! If something comes up, communicate that you can; t do it now--you should NEVER, EVER ghost someone. For Mongers--Same rules apply--Send a text every 15 minutes for about an hour, or let her know in your initial text she can respond at anytime with no problem. If you set an appointment, keep it--If something comes up, communicate-If you send out 4 text to find a providers, When you get a bite and make an appointment, have the common courtesy to resend the text to the ones you didn't choose, saying you are no longer interested--NEVER EVER ghost someone.
This is my opinion about this--It may seem like I am Knighting--really not trying to, just want everyone involved to remember that this is a business, no different, functionally, than walking into a restaurant, giving (and taking) an order and providing the services requested for a defined fee. Don; t give shitty Yelp Reviews because your ex-girlfriend works there or the Manager cut you off on the highway, or try to get the waiter to give you the Filet for the price of the Ribeye.Lengthy, but relevant and vey true. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Any SB that has been in the bowl long enough could be classified as a pro. Most SD's never use that type of lingo to a SB. They pick it up from the mongers who treat them like an escort. This is learned behavior from being promised an arrangement from someone who goes silent or missing after the first FC. After a couple of these incidents the girls either get out of the bowl disillusion ed and or learn to adapt and start doing rotations the way the guys do. This is something that the mongers created because most SB wo. Uld much rather have one SD that could be counted on.ALL SB's ARE HOOKERS! ALL SD's ARE JOHNS!
You are paying them for sex, you can add all of the stuff that sucks about having a girlfriend to that relationship if you wish to punish yourself but it's still commercial sex.
If you don't pay them they don't fuck you that makes you a john and them a hooker.
John HandCock
04-13-17, 08:21
ALL SB's ARE HOOKERS! ALL SD's ARE JOHNS!
You are paying them for sex, you can add all of the stuff that sucks about having a girlfriend to that relationship if you wish to punish yourself but it's still commercial sex.
If you don't pay them they don't fuck you that makes you a john and them a hooker.Technically and by most laws your right. Any mutual beneficial agreement would be considered prostitution.
Sir LanceLicksalot
04-13-17, 08:38
This site does operate offshore.
The fear is that US ISPs may ultimately somehow be required to "block" offshore sites in the name of Freedumb. "respecting women" . Honoring one or more of the Ten Commandments. Or something. Ugh.This will never happen because of the negative effect it would have on the global economy.
Off shore legitimate companies would not be allowed to ply their trade.
Just my $0. 02 on the matter.
This site does operate offshore.
The fear is that US ISPs may ultimately somehow be required to "block" offshore sites in the name of Freedumb. "respecting women" . Honoring one or more of the Ten Commandments. Or something. Ugh.Get a VPN. Chinese guys have figured out a way around that. And Korea is tougher but that whole country doesn't have internet.
ALL SB's ARE HOOKERS! ALL SD's ARE JOHNS!
You are paying them for sex, you can add all of the stuff that sucks about having a girlfriend to that relationship if you wish to punish yourself but it's still commercial sex.
If you don't pay them they don't fuck you that makes you a john and them a hooker.It's a financial transaction, and if you want to test the "special nature" of that, just ask her if she'll see you for free. LOL I mean, you can engineer it to feel like it's not pay for play, but don't delude yourself.
I have reached out to 7 provider's today. 2 text back then crickets. WTF.I keep seeing you guys post that none of these providers answer to your texts or calls amd it blows my mind. I get up at 7-8 am everyday and I get canceled on all the time I don't get it. I always answer and reply to messages promptly because my time is valuable, as I assume you fellas time is as well.
Gunman2013
04-14-17, 08:36
I keep seeing you guys post that none of these providers answer to your texts or calls amd it blows my mind. I get up at 7-8 am everyday and I get canceled on all the time I don't get it. I always answer and reply to messages promptly because my time is valuable, as I assume you fellas time is as well.I didn't contact you dear. I contacted those close to where I work. But get this at 1:38 AM. This morning I get a text from Zalie24 one of which I reached out to. Saying. " What's up? " I mean WTF?
I keep seeing you guys post that none of these providers answer to your texts or calls amd it blows my mind. I get up at 7-8 am everyday and I get canceled on all the time I don't get it. I always answer and reply to messages promptly because my time is valuable, as I assume you fellas time is as well.You are right you have always got right back to me. Even though its been awhile since we have seen each other.
DeepBlue798
04-14-17, 13:30
Yeah, you answer fast but then you are annoying on the phone (at least for me). The first thing comes out of your mouth is; "what's your username" followed by "what's your username". I believe you have to improve your communication skills.
I keep seeing you guys post that none of these providers answer to your texts or calls amd it blows my mind. I get up at 7-8 am everyday and I get canceled on all the time I don't get it. I always answer and reply to messages promptly because my time is valuable, as I assume you fellas time is as well.
Sir LanceLicksalot
04-14-17, 15:42
ALL SB's ARE HOOKERS! ALL SD's ARE JOHNS!
You are paying them for sex, you can add all of the stuff that sucks about having a girlfriend to that relationship if you wish to punish yourself but it's still commercial sex.
If you don't pay them they don't fuck you that makes you a john and them a hooker.We are all Hookers in some way or another.
Guys who say, "I don't pay for sex. " are the same guys who will drop $150 or more for drinks and dinner to get laid.
Women who say, "I don't put out for money. " are the same ones who will fuck someone and then ask for help with their cell phone bill or rent.
Come on. Wake up. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE!
Even if your SO says she loves you, stop paying for their stuff and see how often you get laid.
Trailblazer96
04-14-17, 16:53
We are all Hookers in some way or another.
Guys who say, "I don't pay for sex. " are the same guys who will drop $150 or more for drinks and dinner to get laid.
Women who say, "I don't put out for money. " are the same ones who will fuck someone and then ask for help with their cell phone bill or rent.
Come on. Wake up. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE!
Even if your SO says she loves you, stop paying for their stuff and see how often you get laid.Ass, Grass or Gas Nobody Rides For Free.
UOnlyLiveOnce
04-14-17, 18:47
We are all Hookers in some way or another.
Guys who say, "I don't pay for sex. " are the same guys who will drop $150 or more for drinks and dinner to get laid.
Women who say, "I don't put out for money. " are the same ones who will fuck someone and then ask for help with their cell phone bill or rent.
Come on. Wake up. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE!
Even if your SO says she loves you, stop paying for their stuff and see how often you get laid.I'd revise that first sentence to say, ". Are the same guys who will drop $150 or more for drinks and dinner with the hopes of getting laid, even though they usually go home alone with blue balls. ".
But what do I know, society says I'm a degenerate because I prefer "dates" where the outcome is pretty much assured.
I'd revise that first sentence to say, ". Are the same guys who will drop $150 or more for drinks and dinner with the hopes of getting laid, even though they usually go home alone with blue balls. ".
But what do I know, society says I'm a degenerate because I prefer "dates" where the outcome is pretty much assured.If it is a dinner, movie. Etc. You still pay for it. This way you can rent it and return it when you are done. Just be respectful. All pussy has a price. Even the hot pretty ones are ugly to someone.
I'd revise that first sentence to say, ". Are the same guys who will drop $150 or more for drinks and dinner with the hopes of getting laid, even though they usually go home alone with blue balls. ".
But what do I know, society says I'm a degenerate because I prefer "dates" where the outcome is pretty much assured.I prefer the old saying:
"I don't pay them to have sex with me. I pay them so they'll leave afterwards!
Though in truth may ATFs almost always like to hang out as well.
D.
John HandCock
04-14-17, 22:50
I prefer the old saying:
"I don't pay them to have sex with me. I pay them so they'll leave afterwards!
Though in truth may ATFs almost always like to hang out as well.
D.It's funny that everyone uses that phrase but the number of guys that cry about being rushed out the door after their time is up and not being able to hang out is confusing LOL.
Yeah, you answer fast but then you are annoying on the phone (at least for me). The first thing comes out of your mouth is; "what's your username" followed by "what's your username". I believe you have to improve your communication skills.No that's the normal thing to ask bc if I can't verify you then I'm not going to see you. And in the 7 years I've done this nobody has ever been a dick about giving their USA name to verify them, except you. And I recall other guys on the board also said that you were being ridiculous for not wanting to give it out either. I'm not going to argue with you but I've never once agreed to or set up a session before verifying anyone ever. And no other girls I know would do it either. You blew it way out of proportion. It kills me how some of you act towards us. We can't ever defend ourselves and nobody hears our side of things. You guys get on here and tear us apart over the most trivial things. Its ridiculous.
I didn't contact you dear. I contacted those close to where I work. But get this at 1:38 AM. This morning I get a text from Zalie24 one of which I reached out to. Saying. " What's up? " I mean WTF?I know you didn't love I just meant I don't understand why the girls don't answer either. Do they hate money? LOL I look at this as its my job and I take it seriously. And you're right I hate late night calls and texts and for you guys it can be damaging if you're married. Its crazy I'd never contact anyone late. All in all I guess the hobby has just changed since I left, not for the better either it seems for us or you guys.
I know you didn't love I just meant I don't understand why the girls don't answer either. Do they hate money? LOL I look at this as its my job and I take it seriously. And you're right I hate late night calls and texts and for you guys it can be damaging if you're married. Its crazy I'd never contact anyone late. All in all I guess the hobby has just changed since I left, not for the better either it seems for us or you guys.Why do people say "I'm not going to argue with you" literally while they are arguing.
It's like guys who say "No offense intended" when CLEARLY offense was intended and it's just as clear they lack the intelligence and imagination to be sarcastic.
I don't understand this.
A2.
Yeah, you answer fast but then you are annoying on the phone (at least for me). The first thing comes out of your mouth is; "what's your username" followed by "what's your username". I believe you have to improve your communication skills.Man, my username is my passport to pussy. When I contact a lady for the first time or the twentieth time, the first sentence is "this is Glockman!"
No that's the normal thing to ask bc if I can't verify you then I'm not going to see you. And in the 7 years I've done this nobody has ever been a dick about giving their USA name to verify them, except you. And I recall other guys on the board also said that you were being ridiculous for not wanting to give it out either. I'm not going to argue with you but I've never once agreed to or set up a session before verifying anyone ever. And no other girls I know would do it either. You blew it way out of proportion. It kills me how some of you act towards us. We can't ever defend ourselves and nobody hears our side of things. You guys get on here and tear us apart over the most trivial things. Its ridiculous.Don't see a reason a chick needs my username or picture prior to seeing me. When they ask for a pic or username, I send a picture of $200. LOL.
I can offer vouches. If that's not good enough, tough shit.
Member #5522
04-15-17, 11:05
I contacted you some time ago and have since crossed you off my list of who not to see. I gave my user name and you were just off during the whole process.
I'm not defending anyone else here, just voicing my experience. You however are not helping your case with the other gents on here seeking out someone to be your white Knight and ride in to your rescue.
I understand that you ladies on here have a few back channels to communicate and discuss the guys on this and other boards. Go plead your case there.
No that's the normal thing to ask bc if I can't verify you then I'm not going to see you. And in the 7 years I've done this nobody has ever been a dick about giving their USA name to verify them, except you. And I recall other guys on the board also said that you were being ridiculous for not wanting to give it out either. I'm not going to argue with you but I've never once agreed to or set up a session before verifying anyone ever. And no other girls I know would do it either. You blew it way out of proportion. It kills me how some of you act towards us. We can't ever defend ourselves and nobody hears our side of things. You guys get on here and tear us apart over the most trivial things. Its ridiculous.
DeepBlue798
04-15-17, 12:16
So much for NOT arguing it with me.
First of all, don't worry about if other guys thinks I am being ridiculous or not. Second, don't worry about what other girls would or would not do. Please try not to talk about things that you don't know. I am talking about my own experience with you. You do the same.
As for verification, I understand that's something important for you. However, the way you do it, the way you insist on it, is fricking annoying. At least, it is annoying to me. That's the bottom line.
I told this before, I will just repeat. I refused to share my username until I get some information about the rates and services first (as I always do). I don't believe that this is being a dick. But then again, if it's the case, then I am a proud dick anyway.
No that's the normal thing to ask bc if I can't verify you then I'm not going to see you. And in the 7 years I've done this nobody has ever been a dick about giving their USA name to verify them, except you. And I recall other guys on the board also said that you were being ridiculous for not wanting to give it out either. I'm not going to argue with you but I've never once agreed to or set up a session before verifying anyone ever. And no other girls I know would do it either. You blew it way out of proportion. It kills me how some of you act towards us. We can't ever defend ourselves and nobody hears our side of things. You guys get on here and tear us apart over the most trivial things. Its ridiculous.
DeepBlue798
04-15-17, 12:19
I liked the picture idea very much. I should start doing that myself. LOL.
Don't see a reason a chick needs my username or picture prior to seeing me. When they ask for a pic or username, I send a picture of $200. LOL.
I can offer vouches. If that's not good enough, tough shit.
So much for NOT arguing it with me.
First of all, don't worry about if other guys thinks I am being ridiculous or not. Second, don't worry about what other girls would or would not do. Please try not to talk about things that you don't know. I am talking about my own experience with you. You do the same.
As for verification, I understand that's something important for you. However, the way you do it, the way you insist on it, is fricking annoying. At least, it is annoying to me. That's the bottom line.
I told this before, I will just repeat. I refused to share my username until I get some information about the rates and services first (as I always do). I don't believe that this is being a dick. But then again, if it's the case, then I am a proud dick anyway.Clearly she has enough business that she doesn't need yours. Or mine. #sheisnotthathot LOL.
Freckle Freak
04-15-17, 22:42
I wrote the below post for the Indy forum. Right after I posted it I saw BgDoc3's post about Silk. I felt this post was appropriate for this forum whether Silk passed away from drug related issues or not. There are several in Cincy who are active addicts and may have a short stay on this earth. So this is for those who prefer not to see addicts and I guess for those who do prefer to see addicts as well.
What's scary is how easily they cover. I saw Bob's "Stacy" (we call her M) for months and had no idea she was an H addict. She admits it to me, so I'm not guessing, FTR.
Cover is What They Do That's how they survive. Their life as an addict is a complete facade. They can't let their sober family members and sober friends know that they are an addict, heaven forbid. They lie, cheat, steal and most of all do anything and everything to deceive those around them that they are sober and normal. Addiction is a disease of the body, mind and spirit. Here is an excerpt from the NA Fifth Addition book chapter one about who is an addict.
"Our whole life and thinking was centered around drugs in one form or another - the getting and the using and finding ways and means to get more. We lived to use and used to live."
A provider who was an active user once told me that her "SEX" was the drug and the service she provided was the means to get the "Carrot", the $, to feed her sex. A monger on this board asked me to enlighten him on how to tell if someone is an addict. Sometimes it's very easy and sometimes you have to put the pieces of the puzzle of an addicts life together to truly be sure. Most addicts are extremely good at covering up their HIGH for a short period of time, like a provider doing a service. Most of the time they can act fairly normal during a HHR or HR session, just long enough to make the $ to see the pharmacist. The puzzle pieces of addiction are what goes on before and after the session. Here are some of the signs of addiction both the obvious and the puzzle pieces.
Obvious Signs:
Depending on the drug of choice they will be sweating, teeth clenching, rapid jaw movement, head bobbing, obvious paranoia, nodding out, coughing, sniffling or nose dripping. The pupils of the eye will vary depending on the drug of choice. After taking cocaine, marijuana, or amphetamines, for example, your pupils get noticeably larger, while opiates such as heroin constrict the pupils like pinheads. Track marks are another obvious sign but remember some will shoot up in between toes, under the nails of toes or fingers, behind the knee cap, under the tongue, in or around the genitals, etc. Leslie was always able to use the same vein and entry point for the needle, she told me so, most needle users blow their veins up and have to find new ones, Sam is one of these. If they say they got bit by a spider and have a large welt, I can pretty much bet they blew up that vein and a welt is the result. Even though heroin is a depressant a recent user can be very hyper, very active, in other words loves to fuck. But once they sit down and relax they start to nod off. This happened twice with Crissee. Thus an active heroin user who just partook before you walked in can't cuddle for long. This is true with any depressants.
Teeth are another obvious sign. Blackened rotting roots are a result of smoking some sort of drug. Meth and heroin are the worst at this. Skin condition is another. Everyone has heard of the sores on a meth addict. It's a result of the drug and the insistent picking at the body. Crack addicts are similar. Autumn Sky would have severe acne issues when using heavily. Sores and blemishes are not nearly as common with crack as when using meth.
Personal hygiene is another sign. They are messy, room is a mess, trash is piled up, condoms are laying around. That's if they have them. If a provider doesn't have condoms available and try to do it bare then more than likely they are using because they don't care. If she asks you to pick up condoms on the way then just beware of the possibility of her being an addict especially after you do and then she says "we don't have to use it if you don't want to, I'm clean. " Remember you are no special than the monger before you and the one that will follow you.
Pieces of the Puzzle
This is the part I use to confirm whether someone is an active addict or a recovering addict. Many of the obvious signs can be a result of other health issues. Past needle users will have old track marks, past smokers will have bad teeth or just haven't had the money to deal with years of not seeing a dentist. Many of the obvious signs can have several other reasons, but someone with three or more of the obvious signs is an active addict. The most obvious puzzle piece is Follow the Money. They never have any and always need your help. All the stories, I call them lies, they tell you. I was robbed, stolen from, gave it to mom because I owed her, need it for utility bills that are about to be turned off, phone bill is due, child support is due, I have to pay back a friend, dog died, I wrecked my car, I'm sleeping in my car (when it's below zero outside) well I can go on and on. Remember an active will lie about anything to get their next fix, so follow the lies. They will eventually trip up and say one lie that is completely inconsistent with previous lie.
The economics of following the money is also important. A decent sober provider that gives good service at a very nominal $100 per visit will see 4 - 5 hobbyists a day. So let's say it's 4, that's $400 per day, five days a week is $2,000 week or $8,000 a month before any expenses. Yet they never have any money. Heroin sells for around $200 a gram depending on the grade and how it is cut. A moderate user is going through anywhere from 1-3 grams a day. That's a $200 - $600 a day habit. Thus the $400 service fees diminish very quickly. So now go back to the lies as why they don't have the money and desperately need your help. The text, the call, the desperation of needing only $40 or $60 or $80 dollars, can you please help them out? A monger told me that Jasmine contacted him recently and offered $40 for greek service. She doesn't like greek, but the need for a fix was greater than the pain she was going to have in her ass for a couple of minutes.
Gathering the evidence is also an important piece of the puzzle. Arriving early and not leaving right after the session helps to add to the pieces. I arrived early to see Kat, right after another monger saw her. She told me she had to wait on her mother to pick up money so "Could I hold off before coming over. " Sure I said, little did she know that I was parked down the street. She had two visitors before she told me to come on. A black guy in a Mercedes and a young white woman in a White SUV. Both times transactions were made through the window and then she texted me "I'm ready". Sam had her supplier come pick up money right after I left. One time I almost ran into him leaving her room right after she had a session with the guy before me. He is both a supplier and a pimp and deals with both Sam and Kat and others that work out of the 21st and Shadeland drug hotels. Locations is another key. Bad hotels and bad areas of town are another sign.
Whenever I evaluate if a provider is an active addict or a recovering addict I use both types of evidence Obvious and Pieces of the Puzzle. Now most of you don't need to do all of this. To you it's simple, they are provider / escorts so they must be using otherwise they wouldn't be doing this. I don't see it that way. There are several that do it because that's the way they earn a living or the way they get the sex they need and get paid for it. I also like to believe someone until they prove me wrong so I do believe some stories, hell we all get bad luck every so often. But not for 4,5,6,7,8 etc. Months! That is Sam, Kat, Jasmine, Christine and now probably Star. They always have an excuse for needing help, living in a dive and always out of money. So this is how I do it, I have learned much over the years and I won't see a provider if I determine through the above means that she is active. I will not enable them like I did Star Baby. I have set my boundaries. Crissee in Cincy is one of the best providers I have known, she begged for my help to stay clean, yet once the pieces of the puzzle were put together I stopped. Her deception was better than her service. She never wanted my help, only my carrot at the end of the session. The problem is I really don't like carrots that much, I prefer Lima beans!
P.S. I just saw BgDoc3's post when I hit post on this one. Silk was a fine lady, I met her years ago. I am sorry for the circumstances. BgDoc3 thank you for the post because many of us knew her. Let the Cincy mongers know that Crissee is headed down the same path as are others. Once again thank you.
I wrote the below post for the Indy forum. Right after I posted it I saw BgDoc3's post about Silk. I felt this post was appropriate for this forum whether Silk passed away from drug related issues or not. There are several in Cincy who are active addicts and may have a short stay on this earth. So this is for those who prefer not to see addicts and I guess for those who do prefer to see addicts as well.Sorry, but it's true. You are a like a vulture. No value, just showing up on the downside. Fuck off.
One of the biggest complaints and issues on this and other boards is clients taking the chance of seeing ladies who are addicts. Freckle Freak has written of his own experiences with two ladies, one in KY and his late fiance, yes I said FIANCE. He is trying to help us. Boring, hell no. A vulture, no way. This forum is about the spread of information to help Mongers and Providers in finding sexual partners. Women do not I think want to be with clients who are fking addicts. Men I would think do not want to be with providers who are.
Freckle Freak was in my opinion merely trying to put out some concerns. I do not believe he in any way was trying to gain off the loss of Silk who was or appeared to be a fine and clean provider. Unless someone knows for sure then advice and guidance from one who has experienced being used by them should be welcomed. The same holds true for men who have formed special relationships with them then suffered a tragic loss in their life when they passed from addiction.
You might want to rethink you vulture statement. It was rude, crude and uncalled for if you did your homework. If you were just shooting from the hip it was also highly insensitive. He gives good intel. The least you can do whether you agree or not is curb your animus towards him. It seems he has ours and the ladies best interests at heart.
On that note Happy Easter everyone. Doc.
ItsTimeToEat
04-16-17, 08:14
I would rather fuck than type or read for that matter. We need Cliffs' Notes versions for some of these posts.
One of the biggest complaints and issues on this and other boards is clients taking the chance of seeing ladies who are addicts. Freckle Freak has written of his own experiences with two ladies, one in KY and his late fiance, yes I said FIANCE. He is trying to help us. Boring, hell no. A vulture, no way. This forum is about the spread of information to help Mongers and Providers in finding sexual partners. Women do not I think want to be with clients who are fking addicts. Men I would think do not want to be with providers who are.
Freckle Freak was in my opinion merely trying to put out some concerns. I do not believe he in any way was trying to gain off the loss of Silk who was or appeared to be a fine and clean provider. Unless someone knows for sure then advice and guidance from one who has experienced being used by them should be welcomed. The same holds true for men who have formed special relationships with them then suffered a tragic loss in their life when they passed from addiction.
You might want to rethink you vulture statement. It was rude, crude and uncalled for if you did your homework. If you were just shooting from the hip it was also highly insensitive. He gives good intel. The least you can do whether you agree or not is curb your animus towards him. It seems he has ours and the ladies best interests at heart.
On that note Happy Easter everyone. Doc.We just have to agree to disagree on this one. I think FF is just a manipulative fuck. I appreciate that you think there's some deep thought or that he has sacrificed more that most of us. But that doesn't change my impression.
John HandCock
04-16-17, 10:03
One of the biggest complaints and issues on this and other boards is clients taking the chance of seeing ladies who are addicts. Freckle Freak has written of his own experiences with two ladies, one in KY and his late fiance, yes I said FIANCE. He is trying to help us. Boring, hell no. A vulture, no way. This forum is about the spread of information to help Mongers and Providers in finding sexual partners. Women do not I think want to be with clients who are fking addicts. Men I would think do not want to be with providers who are.
Freckle Freak was in my opinion merely trying to put out some concerns. I do not believe he in any way was trying to gain off the loss of Silk who was or appeared to be a fine and clean provider. Unless someone knows for sure then advice and guidance from one who has experienced being used by them should be welcomed. The same holds true for men who have formed special relationships with them then suffered a tragic loss in their life when they passed from addiction.
You might want to rethink you vulture statement. It was rude, crude and uncalled for if you did your homework. If you were just shooting from the hip it was also highly insensitive. He gives good intel. The least you can do whether you agree or not is curb your animus towards him. It seems he has ours and the ladies best interests at heart.
On that note Happy Easter everyone. Doc.His experience of being used and an enabler is something he chose to do knowingly. His crusade seems to be questionable especially when still going on about the money owed him. Who makes a hooker sign a loan agreement, then goes on about it. For gods sake either sue her or get over it. I'd love to sit in on yhat case LOL. It seems he only has problems with girls that don't 5 want his help. It appears almost every hooker in the tri state area gives him a daily repo8 rt on their clients which makes me wonder Hmm. Its his prerogative to not see a users and report them but once done it turns into being vengeful. Again one goes Hmmm.
I ask because anymore the girls you give for refs never respond so its easier to just see the reviews you've wrote. I had one reply 2 weeks later like "here's that ref you needed" I was blown away. A little late is an understatement. Especially if someone wants to see you on short notice.
And theres no need to insult me or be mean to me because you don't like how I screen and you don't think I'm attractive. I may not be everyones cup of tea but that the point of this, variety. Thats childish that just because you personally don't like me for whatever reason, you felt the need to be rude.
And no we don't have any sites where we can discuss things amongst ourselves about clients.
And no I'm not in need of any "white knight" to back me up. I've been around longer than most girls and have seen the decline of the hobby. And how things in general have just changed and that was my point.
I thought the whole point of this thread was to be able to express things of this nature? So idk why I'm under attack for simply stating how I felt about something.
I'll answer the last one. If you step into a boxing rink with your gloves on you gotta expect that people are gonna be swinging.
A2
I was very sorry to hear about Silk. Although I never met her, we PM'd and texted frequently. I think she wanted to come to Memphis, but just couldn't work the details out. My photoshoot fantasy was to get both her and Molly in front of my camera for a girl on girl session. I regret that none of her photos she posted have a "GM" in the corner. I would love to have gotten her in front of my camera, even though she said no explicit shots. RIP Silk.
Freckle Freak
04-16-17, 21:27
Sorry, but it's true. You are a like a vulture. No value, just showing up on the downside. Fuck off.I enjoy pissing you off WAAYYYYYYY to much. I stay on the board so I can add zero value to your already miserable life. Thanks for the input though, I always appreciate another mongers viewpoint.
Freckle Freak
04-16-17, 22:11
His experience of being used and an enabler is something he chose to do knowingly. His crusade seems to be questionable especially when still going on about the money owed him. Who makes a hooker sign a loan agreement, then goes on about it. For gods sake either sue her or get over it. I'd love to sit in on yhat case LOL. It seems he only has problems with girls that don't 5 want his help. It appears almost every hooker in the tri state area gives him a daily repo8 rt on their clients which makes me wonder Hmm. Its his prerogative to not see a users and report them but once done it turns into being vengeful. Again one goes Hmmm.Use the channel changer yet can you? Damn JH, I already said I enabled Star. Once again I admitted it in the story and even apologized to her for doing it. I don't knowingly enable addicts anymore. Once I have proof they are ACTIVE addicts I stop seeing them. You really need some better reading glasses. BTW, the lawsuit is in process because she agreed to the loan, it's business JH plain and simple. Not hobby related, not hooker related, no sex for money, just a simple business transaction. Also where in my most recent post that you are commenting about did I say anything about anyone owing me money? I really think you can't read. My post was about "Follow the Money" because it's going to their habit not to better their standard of living and lifestyle.
I would think that a monger with a handle of such a famous and honorable man in our great, but puritanical, country's history, would be more honorable in how he represents himself. Here is a famous quote from one of the framers of the constitution.
"There! His Majesty can now read my name without glasses. And he can double the reward on my head!"
JH, get some new glasses and try and learn to use the channel changer if you don't like the so called vengeful show you are reading.
Simp4ebony
04-17-17, 06:49
Um. I guess I've been missing some posts on the board, but. Silk died? Really?!
She was the only white girl I've fucked since the 1990's. Wow. What happened?
John HandCock
04-17-17, 07:45
Use the channel changer yet can you? Damn JH, I already said I enabled Star. Once again I admitted it in the story and even apologized to her for doing it. I don't knowingly enable addicts anymore. Once I have proof they are ACTIVE addicts I stop seeing them. You really need some better reading glasses. BTW, the lawsuit is in process because she agreed to the loan, it's business JH plain and simple. Not hobby related, not hooker related, no sex for money, just a simple business transaction. Also where in my most recent post that you are commenting about did I say anything about anyone owing me money? I really think you can't read. My post was about "Follow the Money" because it's going to their habit not to better their standard of living and lifestyle.
I would think that a monger with a handle of such a famous and honorable man in our great, but puritanical, country's history, would be more honorable in how he represents himself. Here is a famous quote from one of the framers of the constitution.
"There! His Majesty can now read my name without glasses. And he can double the reward on my head!"
JH, get some new glasses and try and learn to use the channel changer if you don't like the so called vengeful show you are reading.Hmm did she sign that under free will or duress? Did she have to sign it to get you to take her to her pharmacy? I can't change the channel cause I can't find my glasses to find the remote. Plus I love shows about whinny ass vengeful guys that complanies about women they can't control. It might be faster and easier if you just take your campaign on the road to Dr. Phil. I will be watching for the Capt save a Ho episode or instead of giving the addicts money that you know you will never get back I can see the Capt save a Ho foundation.
BigGusDickUs55
04-17-17, 20:35
Having the good luck of being able to spend some time with Crissee over 5 yrs ago I can attest to her skills. 5 yrs ago she was probably one of the most reviewed girls around and most reviews were very positive. No one will ever doubt her skills as she can suck cock like no other, she has a nice body and can be a pretty good fuck. Its the outside drama that she brings with her. The drama shadow has followed Crissee like a bad habit. I don't think she would intentionally co-op with LEO. Would I go and see her with her recent run of luck being what it is? No I wouldn't. It is what it is, she is a hooker with a bad habit and she knows how to shake up her money mongers for more moolah.
Says guy was her babysitter, and now she is home crying, and paid himto watch her kids. I offer to reimburse her for the babysitter, either by dropping off cash, or mailing. Provider says "fine" and then texts that she is blaclisting me, and adding to the DNA list.
What would you guys have done?These days the more likely sad but true story is that the scruffy looking "babysitter" was her heroin connection. She had called him to say that you were on the way and if he would please just come over now to get her well she would have the money to pay him as soon as you arrived. Once things were not going according to plan leaving was the right choice and you owe her nothing. Unfortunately for her, she still owed the dope boy and that was the real reason for her tears.
DeepBlue798
04-18-17, 12:44
Seriously, who is this provider?
These days the more likely sad but true story is that the scruffy looking "babysitter" was her heroin connection. She had called him to say that you were on the way and if he would please just come over now to get her well she would have the money to pay him as soon as you arrived. Once things were not going according to plan leaving was the right choice and you owe her nothing. Unfortunately for her, she still owed the dope boy and that was the real reason for her tears.
These days the more likely sad but true story is that the scruffy looking "babysitter" was her heroin connection. She had called him to say that you were on the way and if he would please just come over now to get her well she would have the money to pay him as soon as you arrived. Once things were not going according to plan leaving was the right choice and you owe her nothing. Unfortunately for her, she still owed the dope boy and that was the real reason for her tears.
Seriously, who is this provider?I have no knowledge about who the provider is in The Scruffy Babysitter saga. I made my comments here rather than in the review thread because it was purely wild speculation on my part.
Most of you do a good job of communication and interacting with mongers. However there are a chosen few who are still trying to figure it out.
I sent an email today to two ladies on this board, one with her email on her USASG profile one with a REPLY button on it. Have yet to hear from either. If you put the email on your site or ask us to text or hit the communications button TRY READING your contacts. No offense meant but if you take the time to help us with email or a reply button and we take the time to respond it could be a win win for us both. Have a good rest of the week ladies and thanks for reading.
Freckle Freak
04-20-17, 11:13
Hmm did she sign that under free will or duress? Did she have to sign it to get you to take her to her pharmacy? I can't change the channel cause I can't find my glasses to find the remote. Plus I love shows about whinny ass vengeful guys that complanies about women they can't control. It might be faster and easier if you just take your campaign on the road to Dr. Phil. I will be watching for the Capt save a Ho episode or instead of giving the addicts money that you know you will never get back I can see the Capt save a Ho foundation.I guess mine is being a whinny ass vengeful guy regarding addict providers and yours is trolling the SB forums all over the country giving your opinions and advice as you see fit. Call me what you want, makes no difference to me. I have lost money to some addicts but it is minimal and I can afford to lose it. What you don't seem to understand is the principles I try to live by. I believe in the goodness of humanity. We humans have a long way to go in our struggle with humanity but I give people the benefit of doubt and try to trust people until they give me solid reasons not to trust them. This in itself puts me in very precarious situations within the world I have come to know, the world of addiction. Let me give you some facts to ponder as you search out your next SB.
In 2015 drug overdose was the leading cause of accidental death in the US, with 52,404 lethal drug overdoses. Compare that with other 2015 statistics of the number of people who died in car crashes at 37,757. Gun deaths, including homicides and suicides, totaled 36,252. Or consider the 58,220 US soldiers who died in Vietnam conflict where riots broke out all over the US to condemn the inhumanity of the war.
There were 2,000 Heroin overdose deaths in 2002, 8,000 in 2013, and 12,990 in 2015. That's a 549 % increase from 2002 to 2015 and a 62.3 % increase from 2013 to 2015.
Addiction has become a plague in our country especially with opioids which include heroin and fentanyl a synthetic opioid. Ohio now leads the nation in the number of opioid related deaths. Compare the 20,101 US drug overdose deaths in 2015 to the Ebola outbreak in West Africa where, between 2014 and 2016, 11,310 people died and the US spent 2. 36 billion to stop the plague. How about spending money on the plague in Ohio?
So go ahead and chastise me about my whining and vengefulness. I really don't care. I like the hobby and the pussy it provides but my principles will still influence my choices for pussy. The one thing that I do every morning is look in a mirror and say I will do my best to be as humane as possible and try to save the life of at least one more addict like I have in the past.
So how many SB lives have you saved, JH?
So how many SB lives have you saved, JH?WHO FRICKIN CARES.
From time to time A2 comes on here and reminds people, this site is about men finding pussy.
I really don't care how many good deeds you have done. Go tell it to the Priest. Maybe it will get you a better spot in heaven.
These are grown women and yes many of them have problems. If they didn't, most would not be here.
If you want to save them all, that's fine. Just share your good deeds with the church.
Now excuse me while I go sin.
Fdx.
UOnlyLiveOnce
04-20-17, 20:15
So go ahead and chastise me about my whining and vengefulness. I really don't care. I like the hobby and the pussy it provides but my principles will still influence my choices for pussy. The one thing that I do every morning is look in a mirror and say I will do my best to be as humane as possible and try to save the life of at least one more addict like I have in the past.
So how many SB lives have you saved, JH?Because it's really all about you anyway. Any provider in your world who has gotten better has done so despite you, not because of you. The bottom line is you get off on controlling and manipulating addicted women so you can look like a savior.
Freckle Freak
04-20-17, 21:38
Because it's really all about you anyway. Any provider in your world who has gotten better has done so despite you, not because of you. The bottom line is you get off on controlling and manipulating addicted women so you can look like a savior.Addicts who make the "Choice" to change and become clean deserve all the credit. It's their inner strength that made this choice and that strength carries them through the years to stay clean. I have only been the support behind them, the voice that they can do it, the constant reminder of they are strong enough to endure, the ear for them to discuss their fears and anxieties that may lead to a relapse. You can't control an addict because they control everything around them to achieve their next fix. They try to control everything, but it's their own lives that are out of control. I'm no savior only a piece of the puzzle to recovery. As far as my manipulation and control, well my therapist would tell you that I set very poor boundaries and I am probably the antonym of the words you use to describe me. Once again thanks for your input and hopefully you never have to experience a loved one who catches the disease of addiction.
WHO FRICKIN CARES.
From time to time A2 comes on here and reminds people, this site is about men finding pussy. I really don't care how many good deeds you have done. Go tell it to the Priest. Maybe it will get you a better spot in heaven. These are grown women and yes many of them have problems. If they didn't, most would not be here. If you want to save them all, that's fine. Just share your good deeds with the church. Now excuse me while I go sin. Fdx.I can't tell a priest or go to heaven because I don't believe in that type of salvation or after life. I am only a human who came to this site through evolutionary diversification. However you and A2 are correct that this site is about finding pussy. My choice is to find good, clean, fun filled pussy. Pussy that isn't being sold strictly for their next fix. Oh and of course, pussy that is surrounded by freckles.
WHO FRICKIN CARES.
From time to time A2 comes on here and reminds people, this site is about men finding pussy.
I really don't care how many good deeds you have done. Go tell it to the Priest. Maybe it will get you a better spot in heaven.
These are grown women and yes many of them have problems. If they didn't, most would not be here.
If you want to save them all, that's fine. Just share your good deeds with the church.
Now excuse me while I go sin.
Fdx.Dude, you had me cracking up. It made me remember a quote from Stone Cold Steve Austin. He told another wrestler that if it was mercy he was looking for he should take his ass to church!
CincyHobbist
04-20-17, 22:42
I guess mine is being a whinny ass vengeful guy regarding addict providers and yours is trolling the SB forums all over the country giving your opinions and advice as you see fit. Call me what you want, makes no difference to me. I have lost money to some addicts but it is minimal and I can afford to lose it. What you don't seem to understand is the principles I try to live by. I believe in the goodness of humanity. We humans have a long way to go in our struggle with humanity but I give people the benefit of doubt and try to trust people until they give me solid reasons not to trust them. This in itself puts me in very precarious situations within the world I have come to know, the world of addiction. Let me give you some facts to ponder as you search out your next SB.
In 2015 drug overdose was the leading cause of accidental death in the US, with 52,404 lethal drug overdoses. Compare that with other 2015 statistics of the number of people who died in car crashes at 37,757. Gun deaths, including homicides and suicides, totaled 36,252. Or consider the 58,220 US soldiers who died in Vietnam conflict where riots broke out all over the US to condemn the inhumanity of the war.
There were 2,000 Heroin overdose deaths in 2002, 8,000 in 2013, and 12,990 in 2015. That's a 549 % increase from 2002 to 2015 and a 62.3 % increase from 2013 to 2015.Help us all understand what event impacted your life so much that you had to dawn a super hero costume to save the ladies from their vices. Who impacted your life through there addiction?
Both you and JH need to take this somewhere else other then here.
Addicts who make the "Choice" to change and become clean deserve all the credit. It's their inner strength that made this choice and that strength carries them through the years to stay clean.I've been clean longer than most if these chicks have been alive and I'm telling you, not suggesting, not saying maybe I'm telling you 100% that if you believe this then you know nothing about addiction nor recovery.
I'm not saying your heart isn't in the right place nor that you are a bad person, just saying that you think you know something when you don't.
A2.
Serhan1978
04-21-17, 07:28
Please tell me you are NOT THIS stupid. Because they will con you to believing you they are serious in wanting to get clean and stab you in the back when you least expect it.
Might want to do some hardcore research on addict behavior.
That's why I am beyond choosy when it comes to this. I'm no longer fooled and I also won't partake in enabling an addict's h fix.
Now back to your regular scheduled mongering and forum posting.
I guess mine is being a whinny ass vengeful guy regarding addict providers and yours is trolling the SB forums all over the country giving your opinions and advice as you see fit. Call me what you want, makes no difference to me. I have lost money to some addicts but it is minimal and I can afford to lose it. What you don't seem to understand is the principles I try to live by. I believe in the goodness of humanity. We humans have a long way to go in our struggle with humanity but I give people the benefit of doubt and try to trust people until they give me solid reasons not to trust them. This in itself puts me in very precarious situations within the world I have come to know, the world of addiction. Let me give you some facts to ponder as you search out your next SB.
In 2015 drug overdose was the leading cause of accidental death in the US, with 52,404 lethal drug overdoses. Compare that with other 2015 statistics of the number of people who died in car crashes at 37,757. Gun deaths, including homicides and suicides, totaled 36,252. Or consider the 58,220 US soldiers who died in Vietnam conflict where riots broke out all over the US to condemn the inhumanity of the war.
There were 2,000 Heroin overdose deaths in 2002, 8,000 in 2013, and 12,990 in 2015. That's a 549 % increase from 2002 to 2015 and a 62.3 % increase from 2013 to 2015.
Addiction has become a plague in our country especially with opioids which include heroin and fentanyl a synthetic opioid. Ohio now leads the nation in the number of opioid related deaths. Compare the 20,101 US drug overdose deaths in 2015 to the Ebola outbreak in West Africa where, between 2014 and 2016, 11,310 people died and the US spent 2. 36 billion to stop the plague. How about spending money on the plague in Ohio?
So go ahead and chastise me about my whining and vengefulness. I really don't care. I like the hobby and the pussy it provides but my principles will still influence my choices for pussy. The one thing that I do every morning is look in a mirror and say I will do my best to be as humane as possible and try to save the life of at least one more addict like I have in the past.
So how many SB lives have you saved, JH?
Serhan1978
04-21-17, 07:30
Post of the day. Good stuff.
I'll add this stuff requires some in depth research that few on here don't do enough of when it comes to this.
I've been clean longer than most if these chicks have been alive and I'm telling you, not suggesting, not saying maybe I'm telling you 100% that if you believe this then you know nothing about addiction nor recovery.
I'm not saying your heart isn't in the right place nor that you are a bad person, just saying that you think you know something when you don't.
A2.
Serhan1978
04-21-17, 07:31
Because it's really all about you anyway. Any provider in your world who has gotten better has done so despite you, not because of you. The bottom line is you get off on controlling and manipulating addicted women so you can look like a savior.Problem is he winds up being an enabler as opposed to a savior.
Problem is he winds up being an enabler as opposed to a savior.The ignore list. Used it once he started dropping me PMs. FF is such a weird douche. I'll bet he has tights and a cape hanging in his closet.
ItsTimeToEat
04-21-17, 10:43
The ignore list. Used it once he started dropping me PMs. FF is such a weird douche. I'll bet he has tights and a cape hanging in his closet.A girl at the center of his "attention" has told me stories that require a truckload of popcorn to get through.
Freckle Freak
04-21-17, 20:47
The ignore list. Used it once he started dropping me PMs. FF is such a weird douche. I'll bet he has tights and a cape hanging in his closet.I was going to send you a good morning PM everyday just to say hello, because I love you so much. I sure hope someone quotes this so you can read it. Oh, wait you can read it before you log on.
Freckle Freak
04-21-17, 20:51
A girl at the center of his "attention" has told me stories that require a truckload of popcorn to get through.We should share stories. I can bet you I "Best" her stories any day of the week. Besides she's an H addict and they are great at telling stories, that's how they survive. I sure hope you buttered the popcorn before the two of you partook because I can guarantee you someone else did!
This dude is out of my shit.
ItsTimeToEat
04-21-17, 23:19
We should share stories. I can bet you I "Best" her stories any day of the week. Besides she's an H addict and they are great at telling stories, that's how they survive. I sure hope you buttered the popcorn before the two of you partook because I can guarantee you someone else did!Snowball much?
Good intel, I have seen my share of some of them. Keep in mind Fellas those are their list prices, some of these girls come down off their high horses with a little bit of sweet negotiation and charm. My specialty. LOL.When you tell us all about how amazing your sugar game is going (which I guess is useful or interesting to a few guys), you have never mentioned that a fair share of the girls are pro SB. I. E. Basically just hookers. Not even broadly hooker-like (per A2's frustration). But actually hookers with lots of clients who are working a different angle. Not surprising (nobody talks that much bullshit when they are truly having that good of a time, because they are too busy having such a good time). But I think those guys who love your stories might have been taking you at your word.
You're like these idiot hookers on FB talking about. Repeatedly and very publicly insisting. They are in solid ride or die relationships. All the while sucking dick for money. Sure.
Snowball much?That's fucking funny.
ChickaAmante
04-22-17, 00:17
Agree with A2 - There was a piece about this topic on 60 minutes. They showed brain images of addicts vs. Normal people. The brain chemistry literally changes and the way signals are processed, are very different in seasoned addicts. It bypasess the logical area and goes straight to decision mode (fight or flight kinda thing but not exactly that). Thus, its not a choice at all. It's physiology that makes them helpless after a while. Its a long long road back to normal physiology and in some cases, impossible! But don't take my word for it, just google that episode for fully accurate information.
I've been clean longer than most if these chicks have been alive and I'm telling you, not suggesting, not saying maybe I'm telling you 100% that if you believe this then you know nothing about addiction nor recovery.
I'm not saying your heart isn't in the right place nor that you are a bad person, just saying that you think you know something when you don't.
A2.
Freckle Freak
04-22-17, 09:57
Snowball much?On your next visit when you think "It's Time To Eat" you might find yourself as an unwilling cuckhold. She loves dancing in the rain without a raincoat with special friends, especially right after her fix. Plus you never know when the BF last had her. I suggest you bring douche with your $.
Agree with A2 - There was a piece about this topic on 60 minutes. They showed brain images of addicts vs. Normal people. The brain chemistry literally changes and the way signals are processed, are very different in seasoned addicts. It bypasess the logical area and goes straight to decision mode (fight or flight kinda thing but not exactly that). Thus, its not a choice at all. It's physiology that makes them helpless after a while. Its a long long road back to normal physiology and in some cases, impossible! But don't take my word for it, just google that episode for fully accurate information.Its not one answer for all addicts. Some, in fact most addicts that finally get off their drug of choice do it overtime without treatment. But this is not for all. It is different for all. I've been involved in this area for over 40 years now and it is different. An addict knows how it affects them and so they sometimes assume its how it is with all addicts. But not so. I've seen cases from every extreme. I've seen people who engaged in drugs over long periods and never got addicted at all. Granted that is rare but I've seen it. And I've seen addicts who got addicted literally from the first use and no matter how much they tried they kept going back to the drug. They had no control. So yes, your statement about some addicts and the brain physiology can be true. But certainly not for all and most likely not for most. That same physiology can be true for any long term use of any drug. Some do and can make the "choice" to get off the drug that has them. Some addicts find this hard to believe as it isn't how it is with them so for that group of addicts, yes the "choice" or "will power" is not an option. In my 40 years in this area I have found that once again, this isn't necessarily the norm. Addicts can, and have, made the successful choice to stop doing their drug of choice on their own. It wasn't easy, but they did it. Others can not do it.
When you tell us all about how amazing your sugar game is going (which I guess is useful or interesting to a few guys), you have never mentioned that a fair share of the girls are pro SB. I. E. Basically just hookers. Not even broadly hooker-like (per A2's frustration). But actually hookers with lots of clients who are working a different angle. Not surprising (nobody talks that much bullshit when they are truly having that good of a time, because they are too busy having such a good time). But I think those guys who love your stories might have been taking you at your word.
You're like these idiot hookers on FB talking about. Repeatedly and very publicly insisting. They are in solid ride or die relationships. All the while sucking dick for money. Sure.Of course they are hookers. There's a financial transaction for pussy. Who's disputing that?
Why do people say "I'm not going to argue with you" literally while they are arguing.
It's like guys who say "No offense intended" when CLEARLY offense was intended and it's just as clear they lack the intelligence and imagination to be sarcastic.
I don't understand this.
A2.There's a great saying. "nothing someone says before the word "but" really counts".
It's absolutely true.
Freckle Freak
04-22-17, 12:27
I've been clean longer than most if these chicks have been alive and I'm telling you, not suggesting, not saying maybe I'm telling you 100% that if you believe this then you know nothing about addiction nor recovery.
I'm not saying your heart isn't in the right place nor that you are a bad person, just saying that you think you know something when you don't.
A2.I only know what I have heard and experienced first hand. Besides hitting rock bottom or the pain of using becoming greater than the pain of being sober, what is your experience for the reason for change?
I only know what I have heard and experienced first hand. Besides hitting rock bottom or the pain of using becoming greater than the pain of being sober, what is your experience for the reason for change?I think it varies from person to person. Probably the best I've ever heard it put came from a guy who recognized me as an addict long before anybody else did. He said that when the pain or cost of a behavior (doesn't matter the behavior) gets greater than the benefit or pleasure of a behavior than there is room for change. He didn't say people would, he said there was room for it.
Without getting to "preachy" I personally think that there is also an element of something that some people call grace. I struggle with that because then it means that not anybody can do it and I think that anybody can so I don't really know.
I do know that it there is a big element of "want" involved. People got to want it, they got to want it bad, they got to want it more than dope but I don't think that happens on the same level as choice. It's not something that one comes to through logic nor reason, it's a visceral thing. It's emotional, it's mental, it's "spiritual" you got to have a hunger for a different life. You got to be willing to sacrifice and suffer. You got to be willing to say (again it's not really conscience, it's deeper) "I'll do what it takes," not "I'll do what I can. ".
There's a great saying. "nothing someone says before the word "but" really counts".
It's absolutely true. I've always found pithy sayings which ignore nuance and context in favor of comforting absolutes to be the domain of folksy idiots, but you might have a point.
Guys like blowjobs, but sometimes they like pussy. So they absolutely don't like blowjobs. Makes sense.
Of course they are hookers. There's a financial transaction for pussy. Who's disputing that?The post I quoted, was BD responding to a guy sharing intel about Pro SB, potential rinsers, etc. Making distinctions among the girls he's contacted who are not what he would consider TRUE SB (guessing). I would guess that the only people who are entertained by BD and his stories must be guys who think he's doing this with girls who aren't SB pros. When he mentions money, it is almost always a trivial afterthought. The implication is clear: They aren't fucking him because of the money alone but because BD is such a skilled player.
Regarding hookers as a useful term: On some very simplified level, the first lady and the crackwhore on the street are "hookers". But I think that definition of the word has almost zero utility when defined this way. In reality, we can easily see that there's a spectrum. Everyone might quibble over where the lines are drawn, but it largely comes down to exclusivity and the nature of the transaction. How many dicks+money she chooses to take, vs money+dicks thrown her way.
Simplifying it broadly: 12-20 dicks a day, 8-10 dicks a day, 1-4 dicks a day, or 1 single solitary dick once or twice a week. Pretty big differences. Maybe you don't care. If so, then either you see any and all of them indiscriminately, or you see none of them. To do something else would indicate that you see those distinctions as well.
The Sugar guys probably operate under the assumption that there exists this specific kind of SB: The TRUE Sugar Baby. In theory, it's a girl who is exclusively taking money and dick from one guy. A financial transaction, true, but neither party is maximizing the utility of their pussy / money. She could make more money by fucking more dudes. He could get more variety and quantity of sex by looking elsewhere. Strictly, this doesn't make economic sense. This willing limitation is what, I believe, the SD wants.
It isn't just sex and sex isn't that simple. Pretending that it is would be ignoring reality, and most likely ignoring each of our personal experience. We've all probably been with a girl who depressed our dick into flaccidity upon experiencing evidence of the sad state of her life. Or who said "hurry up" and broke our stroke and ruined the session. Or even who just weren't that into it. Some guys can fuck a hole and cum. But this MUST not be the case for most guys, most of the time because the reports on action indicate otherwise. Guys here regularly make distinctions around this all the time. Clockwatcher, GFE, PSE, Rushed, Mechanical, etc. And Sugar threads have additional distinctions.
So while not disputed directly, pretending that all transaction-based sex is the same seems pointless.
I've always found pithy sayings which ignore nuance and context in favor of comforting absolutes to be the domain of folksy idiots, but you might have a point.
Guys like blowjobs, but sometimes they like pussy. So they absolutely don't like blowjobs. Makes sense.You're pretty much a dumb ass aren't you? All covered up in nuance and context. Quotes tend to exist because they stand the test of reality and time.
For instance, "ProVid is a fairly smart guy BUT no one listens to him because he's never actually fucked a girl and likes to heave his bullshit on everyone."
See how that works?
The post I quoted, was BD responding to a guy sharing intel about Pro SB, potential rinsers, etc. Making distinctions among the girls he's contacted who are not what he would consider TRUE SB (guessing). I would guess that the only people who are entertained by BD and his stories must be guys who think he's doing this with girls who aren't SB pros. When he mentions money, it is almost always a trivial afterthought. The implication is clear: They aren't fucking him because of the money alone but because BD is such a skilled player.
Regarding hookers as a useful term: On some very simplified level, the first lady and the crackwhore on the street are "hookers". But I think that definition of the word has almost zero utility when defined this way. In reality, we can easily see that there's a spectrum. Everyone might quibble over where the lines are drawn, but it largely comes down to exclusivity and the nature of the transaction. How many dicks+money she chooses to take, vs money+dicks thrown her way.
Simplifying it broadly: 12-20 dicks a day, 8-10 dicks a day, 1-4 dicks a day, or 1 single solitary dick once or twice a week. Pretty big differences. Maybe you don't care. If so, then either you see any and all of them indiscriminately, or you see none of them. To do something else would indicate that you see those distinctions as well.
The Sugar guys probably operate under the assumption that there exists this specific kind of SB: The TRUE Sugar Baby. In theory, it's a girl who is exclusively taking money and dick from one guy. A financial transaction, true, but neither party is maximizing the utility of their pussy / money. She could make more money by fucking more dudes. He could get more variety and quantity of sex by looking elsewhere. Strictly, this doesn't make economic sense. This willing limitation is what, I believe, the SD wants.
It isn't just sex and sex isn't that simple. Pretending that it is would be ignoring reality, and most likely ignoring each of our personal experience. We've all probably been with a girl who depressed our dick into flaccidity upon experiencing evidence of the sad state of her life. Or who said "hurry up" and broke our stroke and ruined the session. Or even who just weren't that into it. Some guys can fuck a hole and cum. But this MUST not be the case for most guys, most of the time because the reports on action indicate otherwise. Guys here regularly make distinctions around this all the time. Clockwatcher, GFE, PSE, Rushed, Mechanical, etc. And Sugar threads have additional distinctions.
So while not disputed directly, pretending that all transaction-based sex is the same seems pointless.And counting dicks. Add an extra one in for you. Do you have Asperger syndrome or something?
Reading your whole thing, you seem to have a case of the ass about guys that are getting laid. Why are you fixated on how they do it or how much they pay?
BigGusDickUs55
04-22-17, 21:44
As someone who has been able to put past addictions to alcohol and nicotine behind me over 20 yrs ago. I grew up in a very addictive atmosphere with my close family members addicted to cigs alcohol coke pills ect ect. Avoiding addiction is first, but understanding how addiction effects the brain is the most important part. I added a link for anyone who wishes to try and gain a greater understanding and maybe help them with their addiction. Give the addict the info and if the addict what's to help themselves they will read it. All the headings in the link are links to the highlighted subjects. [URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/where-addiction-meets-your-brain
Freckle Freak
04-23-17, 00:59
I think it varies from person to person. Probably the best I've ever heard it put came from a guy who recognized me as an addict long before anybody else did. He said that when the pain or cost of a behavior (doesn't matter the behavior) gets greater than the benefit or pleasure of a behavior than there is room for change. He didn't say people would, he said there was room for it.
Without getting to "preachy" I personally think that there is also an element of something that some people call grace. I struggle with that because then it means that not anybody can do it and I think that anybody can so I don't really know.
I do know that it there is a big element of "want" involved. People got to want it, they got to want it bad, they got to want it more than dope but I don't think that happens on the same level as choice. It's not something that one comes to through logic nor reason, it's a visceral thing. It's emotional, it's mental, it's "spiritual" you got to have a hunger for a different life. You got to be willing to sacrifice and suffer. You got to be willing to say (again it's not really conscience, it's deeper) "I'll do what it takes," not "I'll do what I can. ".I think we are definitely on the same page because anybody can do it but they have to, as you say, "Want" to do it. The recovering addicts that I know either hit "Rock Bottom" the loss of everything or the pain of their behavior of using became greater than the pleasure the behavior was giving them. Many of the addicts I know struggled with emotional / personal issues which caused them to mask the pain they could no longer bear to feel with the pleasure of the drug. Once the pain of using became greater than the pain they were hiding from, they "Wanted" to change. I call "wanting" change as the "Light bulb turning on" in your head. This is the realization that the continuation of a behavior that is detrimental to your existence makes you want to "Do what it takes" to change. It's the day you stop bull shitting everyone in your life including yourself and you finally act on changing your behavior. You call it "Want" and I call it wanting to make a "Choice" to change. I guess I simplified a deep visceral thing.
I personally had a behavior which was not the result of taking an external substance. My behavior gave me an endorphin high. I loved this High, but it wasn't until the "light bulb turned on" that I made the choice to "Do what it takes" to change my behavior. I didn't go through typical withdrawls like drug addicts but the loss of the endorphin high was just as difficult and caused severe mental withdrawls. I guess in your terms I "Wanted" to "do what it takes" however by my terminology, I made the choice to change my behavior because it was more painful than the pleasure of the endorphin high.
Alaska Tom
04-23-17, 02:35
I think we are definitely on the same page because anybody can do it but they have to, as you say, "Want" to do it. The recovering addicts that I know either hit "Rock Bottom" the loss of everything or the pain of their behavior of using became greater than the pleasure the behavior was giving them. Many of the addicts I know struggled with emotional / personal issues which caused them to mask the pain they could no longer bear to feel with the pleasure of the drug. Once the pain of using became greater than the pain they were hiding from, they "Wanted" to change. I call "wanting" change as the "Light bulb turning on" in your head. This is the realization that the continuation of a behavior that is detrimental to your existence makes you want to "Do what it takes" to change. It's the day you stop bull shitting everyone in your life including yourself and you finally act on changing your behavior. You call it "Want" and I call it wanting to make a "Choice" to change. I guess I simplified a deep visceral thing.
I personally had a behavior which was not the result of taking an external substance. My behavior gave me an endorphin high. I loved this High, but it wasn't until the "light bulb turned on" that I made the choice to "Do what it takes" to change my behavior. I didn't go through typical withdrawls like drug addicts but the loss of the endorphin high was just as difficult and caused severe mental withdrawls. I guess in your terms I "Wanted" to "do what it takes" however by my terminology, I made the choice to change my behavior because it was more painful than the pleasure of the endorphin high.A great post, FF. There is a saying common in Alcoholics Anonymous that is similar: Some people come to AA when they see the light. Most of us get here when we feel the heat.
Alaska Tom.
This is the realization that the continuation of a behavior that is detrimental to your existence makes you want to "Do what it takes" to change. It's the day you stop bull shitting everyone in your life including yourself and you finally act on changing your behavior. You call it "Want" and I call it wanting to make a "Choice" to change. I guess I simplified a deep visceral thing.
I personally had a behavior which was not the result of taking an external substance. My behavior gave me an endorphin high. I loved this High, but it wasn't until the "light bulb turned on" that I made the choice to "Do what it takes" to change my behavior. I didn't go through typical withdrawls like drug addicts but the loss of the endorphin high was just as difficult and caused severe mental withdrawls. I guess in your terms I "Wanted" to "do what it takes" however by my terminology, I made the choice to change my behavior because it was more painful than the pleasure of the endorphin high.You are trying to map your experience to theirs and you are really making this more intellectual than I've ever seen it. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I'm saying in over three decades I've never seen this happen as a "realization that the continuation of a behavior" bubba that assumes way fucking more mental gymnastics that the average junkie in the throes of addiction is capable of. I know it sits better with you to keep re-framing this as a choice and for a couple it might be, I've just never met that couple of people.
Its really tough for non addicts to understand what addiction feels like. There might have been some stuff you did that you ended up not liking so much so you quit it. I personally get a kick out of people that say "I tried that and didn't like it so I didn't do it again. " As an addict I'm always thinking "what the fuck does like have to do with it?" I shot a whole lot of dope after I fucking hated doing it. I tell people who ask me that addiction is like this terrible itch inside your brain, that will only go away by doing something. When I was quitting smoking (1. 5 years now) I used to get sooooooooo fucking pissed off with the people who insisted that "most cravings go away in 5 minutes" I literally wanted to kick them in the balls. I don't get cravings, I get fucking obsessions that don't go away, they just get stronger the longer I don't do the thing my brain is screaming for.
A2.
ItsTimeToEat
04-23-17, 07:49
On your next visit when you think "It's Time To Eat" you might find yourself as an unwilling cuckhold. She loves dancing in the rain without a raincoat with special friends, especially right after her fix. Plus you never know when the BF last had her. I suggest you bring douche with your $.The handle "itstimetoeat" has nothing to do with eating pussy. It is a racing term.
To add to what others have said, the process of actual addiction involves true re-wiring of the brain. The current science shows it's due to a combination of biological vulnerability (some folks are simply more likely to get addicted to some substances than others) and the actual chemical- heroin is about 2. 5 times addictive as any other substance, although Fentanyl comes close. Some folks will try heroin and not become addicted, but overall the likelihood of addiction is higher.
When addiction does occur, its a lethal combination- the dopamine systems of the brain (the reward / pleasure / impulse centers) become hyperactive, while at the same time the frontal cortex, which controls judgement and planning, becomes inactive. So addicts are impulsive, only focus on immediate reward, and simply can't "see" long-term consequences. The truly sad part is that they never re-create the first "high" that started the process, but they feel horrible when they are not using. It's no longer seeking pleasure, just avoiding pain and misery. And the craving never stops- an addict can get clean, but they will always crave and be at risk for relapse (Some ex-smokers will tell you they haven't had a cig for 20 years, but still want them!)
I have already seen too many good SPs go down the tubes with this, and if I have a sense they are using I'm done. I don't want the fatal overdose on my dime.
Peace.
The good dr.
I quit drinking over 10 yrs ago. No Dui's or any alcohol related offenses.
Had a series of bad life events happening and alcohol was my way to cope, so I thought. It made me weak, unable to confront my problems head on.
I've never smoked or taken any kind of pain pill. Even when I broke my leg, I took over the counter pain relievers instead of the percs and / or vics that I was prescribed.
I did 'see the light' so to speak. It was real and profound. Being able to stop drinking was easy for me. I've never even thought about taking a drink in over 10 yrs.
KnottyWood
04-23-17, 10:16
To add to what others have said, the process of actual addiction involves true re-wiring of the brain. The current science shows it's due to a combination of biological vulnerability (some folks are simply more likely to get addicted to some substances than others) and the actual chemical- heroin is about 2. 5 times addictive as any other substance, although Fentanyl comes close. Some folks will try heroin and not become addicted, but overall the likelihood of addiction is higher.
When addiction does occur, its a lethal combination- the dopamine systems of the brain (the reward / pleasure / impulse centers) become hyperactive, while at the same time the frontal cortex, which controls judgement and planning, becomes inactive. So addicts are impulsive, only focus on immediate reward, and simply can't "see" long-term consequences. The truly sad part is that they never re-create the first "high" that started the process, but they feel horrible when they are not using. It's no longer seeking pleasure, just avoiding pain and misery. And the craving never stops- an addict can get clean, but they will always crave and be at risk for relapse (Some ex-smokers will tell you they haven't had a cig for 20 years, but still want them!)
I have already seen too many good SPs go down the tubes with this, and if I have a sense they are using I'm done. I don't want the fatal overdose on my dime.
Peace.
The good dr.When I quit smoking it was ten years before I did not want a cigarette, not I can't stand to be around them.
I quit drinking over 10 yrs ago. No Dui's or any alcohol related offenses.
Had a series of bad life events happening and alcohol was my way to cope, so I thought. It made me weak, unable to confront my problems head on.
I've never smoked or taken any kind of pain pill. Even when I broke my leg, I took over the counter pain relievers instead of the percs and / or vics that I was prescribed.
I did 'see the light' so to speak. It was real and profound. Being able to stop drinking was easy for me. I've never even thought about taking a drink in over 10 yrs.I'm approaching 15 years of not drinking. Prior to that I was a daily heavy drinker for about 20 years. A functioning alcoholic. I finally had to surrender to win.
Congratulations Scarab!
When I quit smoking it was ten years before I did not want a cigarette, not I can't stand to be around them.I saw a shrink who's practice is limited to smoking cessation. It was all B-Mod no "therapy. " She never asked me why I smoked she just said "If you want to quit do this. " One of the most important things she had me do was when I smoked I had to stop doing everything else. No phone, music, TV, conversation, walking in the street, nothing. I could smoke whenever I wanted to but when I smoked I couldn't do anything else.
After a week of that I honestly couldn't wait to stop smoking. We had a quit date that was a week in advance, I asked her if it was ok if I stopped a week early and she said no. I had to do that shit for one more week. I've been doing nicotine replacement but I've never wanted to smoke after doing that for two weeks. I literally couldn't wait to stop.
A2.
I saw a shrink who's practice is limited to smoking cessation. It was all B-Mod no "therapy. " She never asked me why I smoked she just said "If you want to quit do this. " One of the most important things she had me do was when I smoked I had to stop doing everything else. No phone, music, TV, conversation, walking in the street, nothing. I could smoke whenever I wanted to but when I smoked I couldn't do anything else.
After a week of that I honestly couldn't wait to stop smoking. We had a quit date that was a week in advance, I asked her if it was ok if I stopped a week early and she said no. I had to do that shit for one more week. I've been doing nicotine replacement but I've never wanted to smoke after doing that for two weeks. I literally couldn't wait to stop.
A2.I believe this strategy of doing nothing when smoking, do not work for all (if I understood you correctly). In my case when I was a regular smoker, I had to stop doing anything. I have to be absolutely doing nothing to enjoy my smoke. So it depends. I quit 9 years back. I am glad I did.
Freckle Freak
04-23-17, 17:55
The handle "itstimetoeat" has nothing to do with eating pussy. It is a racing term.Only a moron wouldn't understand the play on words in my post. Don't worry you aren't the first.
Freckle Freak
04-23-17, 18:24
You are trying to map your experience to theirs and you are really making this more intellectual than I've ever seen it.
There might have been some stuff you did that you ended up not liking so much so you quit it.
A2.I do try and intellectualize many things because of logic. Never having been in a substance abuse situation myself, I concede that it's not a choice but something that just fucking happens because the "Want" is so much greater for whatever reason. I do know that my deceased fiance knew that she had one relapse left in her but not another recovery. She always told me that is one of the main reasons she never used again, even though at times she could "taste" the cravings of her drug of choice.
Every time I continued my behavior I became physically ill, to the point I was hospitalized. That is when I found NA and even though it wasn't for substance abuse it gave me hope and a path to want to change. The other stuff that I ended up not liking in my circumstances, well there was the final decision to get a DIVORCE that made me see the light. Once that decision was made, the sky cleared up and my life became so much easier. That decision combined with NA made me want to change my behavior.
Thanks again for your insight.
I believe this strategy of doing nothing when smoking, do not work for all (if I understood you correctly). In my case when I was a regular smoker, I had to stop doing anything. I have to be absolutely doing nothing to enjoy my smoke. So it depends. I quit 9 years back. I am glad I did.By totally isolating the behavior it really made me take notice of it. By the end of the first week I was simply tired of smoking and I realized that most of the time I wasn't smoking because I wanted to smoke. I was smoking because the idea of smoking had entered my head. By doing nothing else when I smoked, just standing in a corner somewhere smoking I felt, it's hard to explain but almost silly doing it. This was a thing that I had done for 40 years and I really couldn't come up with a reason to continue doing it.
To be clear, I literally wasn't supposed to do anything else when I smoked. If I was on the street I had to face a building so I couldn't watch people walk by. If at home I went to this corner so I couldn't look at the view from the windows, no music, no book, no phone, no tv, no coffee, nothing at all. When I smoked, and I could smoke as often as I liked, ALL I could do while smoking was smoke. When I wasn't smoking I could do whatever I wanted but as soon as I smoked I had to stop and just smoke. If I was with people I had to stop talking to them, separate myself, face a wall and smoke.
I've been working on losing some weight and I'm thinking about doing this same thing with non-optimal food. If I do it, if I get a burger I'll get it to go, sit in my apartment, face a wall, and be alone with my burger. It's not about punishment, or aversion therapy, it's all about mindfulness, be alone with the vice so you can't hide it under something else.
It worked great for me.
By totally isolating the behavior it really made me take notice of it. By the end of the first week I was simply tired of smoking and I realized that most of the time I wasn't smoking because I wanted to smoke. I was smoking because the idea of smoking had entered my head. By doing nothing else when I smoked, just standing in a corner somewhere smoking I felt, it's hard to explain but almost silly doing it. This was a thing that I had done for 40 years and I really couldn't come up with a reason to continue doing it.
To be clear, I literally wasn't supposed to do anything else when I smoked. If I was on the street I had to face a building so I couldn't watch people walk by. If at home I went to this corner so I couldn't look at the view from the windows, no music, no book, no phone, no tv, no coffee, nothing at all. When I smoked, and I could smoke as often as I liked, ALL I could do while smoking was smoke. When I wasn't smoking I could do whatever I wanted but as soon as I smoked I had to stop and just smoke. If I was with people I had to stop talking to them, separate myself, face a wall and smoke.
I've been working on losing some weight and I'm thinking about doing this same thing with non-optimal food. If I do it, if I get a burger I'll get it to go, sit in my apartment, face a wall, and be alone with my burger. It's not about punishment, or aversion therapy, it's all about mindfulness, be alone with the vice so you can't hide it under something else.
It worked great for me.I wonder if it would work as effectively with food. Eating tends to be a socially geared activity more than smoking (at least here in the US). I mean, if you order a poor food choice while sharing dinner it would be a little strange to scoop it up and go out to the ally to eat it.
I do see the value in approaching a bad habit that way.
I wonder if it would work as effectively with food. Eating tends to be a socially geared activity more than smoking (at least here in the US). I mean, if you order a poor food choice while sharing dinner it would be a little strange to scoop it up and go out to the ally to eat it.
I do see the value in approaching a bad habit that way.A2's comments are right on the money. Years ago I went through a program called "Smoke Enders" that broke down the habits and "triggers" associated with smoking. The main triggers for most people are caffeine, alcohol and the telephone. So the idea was to avoid those triggers so that the temptation to smoke wasn't as great. Each week they added new rules (limitations) until, as A2 mentioned, the ONLY time you were allowed to smoke was when you did nothing BUT smoke. You couldn't be on the phone, you couldn't be sitting in your favorite chair, you couldn't be talking to anyone, you couldn't be watching television, etc. , etc. And A2 is right--when you light up a cigarette to do absolutely nothing BUT smoke that cigarette, you can't help but wonder, "Why in the hell am I doing this?
WanderingAbout
04-24-17, 13:25
When someone posts on here they want new friends and mention QV rates; when someone has other Seniors post comments for them (third party ads for a girl instead of girl doing it themselves); are they really: Low volume? And are they UTR or Pretend UTR or Not UTR?
I wonder if it would work as effectively with food. Eating tends to be a socially geared activity more than smoking (at least here in the US). I mean, if you order a poor food choice while sharing dinner it would be a little strange to scoop it up and go out to the ally to eat it.
I do see the value in approaching a bad habit that way.It's not so much about eating as it is less than optimal food choices. So if I'm out with people and I don't want to separate myself and eat in the corner I would have to modify what I ordered. If I'm with a group and I want to stay with them then it's grilled chicken breast (or grilled anything really) and some veggies or salad. If I want to get that burger then I'd have to go sit by myself to eat it.
RicoTrebor
04-25-17, 22:48
No that's the normal thing to ask bc if I can't verify you then I'm not going to see you. And in the 7 years I've done this nobody has ever been a dick about giving their USA name to verify them, except you. And I recall other guys on the board also said that you were being ridiculous for not wanting to give it out either. I'm not going to argue with you but I've never once agreed to or set up a session before verifying anyone ever. And no other girls I know would do it either. You blew it way out of proportion. It kills me how some of you act towards us. We can't ever defend ourselves and nobody hears our side of things. You guys get on here and tear us apart over the most trivial things. Its ridiculous.It's perfectly acceptable for a provider to ask for your USA username as a means to verify you. Just as you can use their name in forum posts to qualify them.
From what I have heard recently, there is at least one if not two VERY strange and violent guys in the area seeing providers. Provider's have every right and need -- to be able to verify who they are going to see.
It's perfectly acceptable for a provider to ask for your USA username as a means to verify you. Just as you can use their name in forum posts to qualify them.
From what I have heard recently, there is at least one if not two VERY strange and violent guys in the area seeing providers. Provider's have every right and need -- to be able to verify who they are going to see.I think the question is ridiculous.
First, I can come on here, look around to pick up some active Senior usernames, and give any one of them to the girl. She has no way of knowing if I am actually the person attached to that name.
Second, being a senior on usasg means that you've posted 25 posts, regardless of what they are about, you've been a member for over 6 months, and you've managed not to get banned by A2. Nothing more than that. I don't know why anyone would use that as a security check.
Not being critial uf USASG, just saying that Senior status means less than they are thinking it does.
HuntLadys29
04-26-17, 09:37
I think the question is ridiculous.
First, I can come on here, look around to pick up some active Senior usernames, and give any one of them to the girl. She has no way of knowing if I am actually the person attached to that name.
Second, being a senior on usasg means that you've posted 25 posts, regardless of what they are about, you've been a member for over 6 months, and you've managed not to get banned by A2. Nothing more than that. I don't know why anyone would use that as a security check.
Not being critial uf USASG, just saying that Senior status means less than they are thinking it does.If I give my username for verification I'll use pm only you are right as anybody can look on here and grab a username but only that person can send a pm and if the girl wants verification she will and should use the pm as a way of verification. HL29.
UOnlyLiveOnce
04-26-17, 09:37
I try to avoid texting my username if I'm able, as I don't like having my username linked to my burner phone any more than necessary. Sometimes I can get around it by sending the provider a pm instead, but there are still occasions where I have to text my username if I want to see the provider.
I honestly don't understand why anyone is hesitant about giving usernames when first contact with a provider. This is my way of saying. "I'm a legit member and not LE. Use my user name to check my reviews and posts. Pm or text any provider I have reviewed or check my posts out to get a feel of how I am. " I get some people level of paranoia or trying to protect themselves.
If I give my username for verification I'll use pm only you are right as anybody can look on here and grab a username but only that person can send a pm and if the girl wants verification she will and should use the pm as a way of verification. HL29.Actually, in two cases I've given my user name and they've said give me a minute to check you out. Then, they both came back and said okay. No verifying PM.
Actually, in two cases I've given my user name and they've said give me a minute to check you out. Then, they both came back and said okay. No verifying PM.I've never had a problem giving my Username. I also include the Username from other sites if provider wants to check.
UPullAndPay3
04-26-17, 15:38
Given my username with a PM from the guide several times! Whats the big deal?
PenguinDreamer
04-26-17, 16:17
It's absolutely ridiculous unless they are using PM's, otherwise how do they or YOU know whom you are talking too? My Safety is PARAMOUNT, they want my patronage, they have to do give and take too. L Send me YOUR provider name, and review links, and I will share. Otherwise FO.
HuntLadys29
04-26-17, 16:32
Actually, in two cases I've given my user name and they've said give me a minute to check you out. Then, they both came back and said okay. No verifying PM.But isn't that why the girls post on this site as well as us using this site to have a safe place to meet girls and girls to meet guys? If used correctly it always works out. EE has used this site effectively, Buddah used this site to his girls advantage. Any lady that post on here that I want to see I never had a problem setting anything up all I did was text or pm and I'm on my way. HL29.
Member #5522
04-26-17, 20:04
Unless the lady that asks for your user name sends you a verification pm, the question means nothing and sharing it, pointless.
Actually, in two cases I've given my user name and they've said give me a minute to check you out. Then, they both came back and said okay. No verifying PM.
But isn't that why the girls post on this site as well as us using this site to have a safe place to meet girls and girls to meet guys? If used correctly it always works out. EE has used this site effectively, Buddah used this site to his girls advantage. Any lady that post on here that I want to see I never had a problem setting anything up all I did was text or pm and I'm on my way. HL29.I don't disagree. Just telling you my personal experience. And these were two newer highly sought after providers. I was surprised!
CincyKayak
04-27-17, 13:08
I know it has been reported that she is recovering from her auto accidents but it sure would be nice to touch base with her to see how she is doing. Texted her number but have not had a response; wouldn't be surprised if it is no longer active.
Hope she is doing well.
CK.
UOnlyLiveOnce
04-28-17, 08:56
I know it has been reported that she is recovering from her auto accidents but it sure would be nice to touch base with her to see how she is doing. Texted her number but have not had a response; wouldn't be surprised if it is no longer active.
Hope she is doing well.
CK.I've wondered about her too. She was a genuine sweetie.
CrissyLynn2015
04-29-17, 00:38
It's perfectly acceptable for a provider to ask for your USA username as a means to verify you. Just as you can use their name in forum posts to qualify them.
From what I have heard recently, there is at least one if not two VERY strange and violent guys in the area seeing providers. Provider's have every right and need -- to be able to verify who they are going to see.I'm with Josie on this one. I ALWAYS 99.99999 percent the time request a pm before seeing anyone, that's just my personal preference and if you don't send one or say you did and I don't get it, I won't see you period. And hate to ask but I haven't heard anything about a violent man. Is there someone or people I should be worried about. Us ladies or I should SAY some of the ladies keep each other updated on whether a man is nice or to be very careful with certain friends! Anyways just anotha USA member putting her 2 cents in LOL. Everyone be safe and everybody enjoy your weekend.
CincyHobbist
04-30-17, 10:53
So I have been messaged a few times in the last few weeks by a few providers that I have seen or communicated about being hard up an needing $ and would be willing to meet me a few times to pay back what I advanced them up front. One of them caught me off guard as she was once a highly sought after commodity here and on other forums.
I want to know if any provider would willing to do the same with a monger that is short on cash, but was looking for the same arrangement? Would they be willing to exchange / barter services for anything other then cash?
BigGusDickUs55
04-30-17, 15:01
Someone turned Great Grandma out on BP. Great Grandma looks like that Jenner lady dude. Yes this is a real ad on BP and EB. http://cincinnati.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/joan/35639333 https://escortbabylon.net/#cincinnati / photos /2165919796/21394718.
So I have been messaged a few times in the last few weeks by a few providers that I have seen or communicated about being hard up an needing $ and would be willing to meet me a few times to pay back what I advanced them up front. One of them caught me off guard as she was once a highly sought after commodity here and on other forums.
I want to know if any provider would willing to do the same with a monger that is short on cash, but was looking for the same arrangement? Would they be willing to exchange / barter services for anything other then cash?But I can almost guarantee you the answer is pretty much universally "no".
Someone turned Great Grandma out on BP. Great Grandma looks like that Jenner lady dude. Yes this is a real ad on BP and EB. http://cincinnati.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/joan/35639333 https://escortbabylon.net/#cincinnati / photos /2165919796/21394718.Someone will pull out their billfold and pay to fuck that.
Someone turned Great Grandma out on BP. Great Grandma looks like that Jenner lady dude. Yes this is a real ad on BP and EB. http://cincinnati.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/joan/35639333 https://escortbabylon.net/#cincinnati / photos /2165919796/21394718.Did you notice all the track marks up the arm?
The previous post got me thinking about how many times I have read reviews where it was posted that there were no signs of abuse, I. E. No track marks. The current trend in the area is heroin and its most common delivery is IV use. However heroin can be snorted and can be smoked. I have run across a few people who do heroin via the last two because it leaves no track marks, they say the high isn't as great but staying away from the tattle tale sign of track marks is worth it. Then there are others who still smoke crack or meth, which wrecks havoc on the persons teeth which the first tooth they loose is commonly referred to as their crack tooth I. E. Its where they put the pipe commonly at first. Then there is the traditional cocaine which is still around. And last there are the pill poppers, which are the ones most likely to reveal their habit choice. Each category has its own type of things signs to look for. For instance, meth users are typically the ones in t-shirts when its 25 degrees out and on edge. I would suggest that if you want to know more research about common signs of each type of drug. Be safe T69.
Did you notice all the track marks up the arm?I don't think those are track marks but instead age spots. Unbelievably she has a Feb. 2017 glowing review on the erotic review.
CinciScubaDude
05-03-17, 16:20
Anyone having issues using Safari to view this forum? For about the past 3 weeks I have struggled to browse the forum or view USASG ads on either my mac or iPad using Safari. On the Mac it will simply take forever to load a page, if it even does. Other times it just shows a blank window. On the iPad the same happens but I often get the message that "Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding".
Obviously I can't go ask my geek friends for help loading "escort" pages to figure out what's happening! Anyone here able to help?
FYI, I am on my Mac an using Firefox with no problems, but really want Safari to work since I typically use my iPad to read the forum and ads.
Anyone having issues using Safari to view this forum? For about the past 3 weeks I have struggled to browse the forum or view USASG ads on either my mac or iPad using Safari. On the Mac it will simply take forever to load a page, if it even does. Other times it just shows a blank window. On the iPad the same happens but I often get the message that "Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding".
Obviously I can't go ask my geek friends for help loading "escort" pages to figure out what's happening! Anyone here able to help?
FYI, I am on my Mac an using Firefox with no problems, but really want Safari to work since I typically use my iPad to read the forum and ads.I view this site only on my apple devices and don't have any problems. I would recommend a hard reboot on the iPad but not sure on the mac.
EightyThree
05-03-17, 17:15
Anyone having issues using Safari to view this forum? For about the past 3 weeks I have struggled to browse the forum or view USASG ads on either my mac or iPad using Safari. On the Mac it will simply take forever to load a page, if it even does. Other times it just shows a blank window. On the iPad the same happens but I often get the message that "Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding".
Obviously I can't go ask my geek friends for help loading "escort" pages to figure out what's happening! Anyone here able to help?
FYI, I am on my Mac an using Firefox with no problems, but really want Safari to work since I typically use my iPad to read the forum and ads.I use chrome on the ipad. No problems.
Anyone having issues using Safari to view this forum? For about the past 3 weeks I have struggled to browse the forum or view USASG ads on either my mac or iPad using Safari. On the Mac it will simply take forever to load a page, if it even does. Other times it just shows a blank window. On the iPad the same happens but I often get the message that "Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding".
Obviously I can't go ask my geek friends for help loading "escort" pages to figure out what's happening! Anyone here able to help?
FYI, I am on my Mac an using Firefox with no problems, but really want Safari to work since I typically use my iPad to read the forum and ads.I am using Chrome on a Mac and had similar problems over the last few weeks. Today, however, it seems to be back to normal.
Bam.
Alaska Tom
05-03-17, 17:59
I am using Chrome on a Mac and had similar problems over the last few weeks. Today, however, it seems to be back to normal.
Bam.I use Opera on my IBM laptop and Chrome on my tablet and smartphone, and have seen no issues. A month or so ago, Opera stopped opening private messages, so I switched to Chrome on the laptop.
I use Opera on my IBM laptop and Chrome on my tablet and smartphone, and have seen no issues. A month or so ago, Opera stopped opening private messages, so I switched to Chrome on the laptop.Never had an issue with firefox.
CinciScubaDude
05-03-17, 22:42
Thanks all for the suggestions. However, I am looking for a reason why Safari isn't working, not another browser that will work.
TravelinMan555
05-04-17, 01:14
Anyone having issues using Safari to view this forum? For about the past 3 weeks I have struggled to browse the forum or view USASG ads on either my mac or iPad using Safari. On the Mac it will simply take forever to load a page, if it even does. Other times it just shows a blank window. On the iPad the same happens but I often get the message that "Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding".
Obviously I can't go ask my geek friends for help loading "escort" pages to figure out what's happening! Anyone here able to help?
FYI, I am on my Mac an using Firefox with no problems, but really want Safari to work since I typically use my iPad to read the forum and ads.I have used Safari on my iPad 3 to access this site for several years now and have not had any problems. You may want to upgrade your iPad if you have not already tried to do so.
TM.
Tickle Jay
05-04-17, 04:36
That could also be a connection issue. I make it a habit to reboot the cable modem and wireless router every month. And for the record, Opera used to be great until some Chinese outfit bought them.
Anyone having issues using Safari to view this forum? For about the past 3 weeks I have struggled to browse the forum or view USASG ads on either my mac or iPad using Safari. On the Mac it will simply take forever to load a page, if it even does. Other times it just shows a blank window. On the iPad the same happens but I often get the message that "Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding".
Obviously I can't go ask my geek friends for help loading "escort" pages to figure out what's happening! Anyone here able to help?
FYI, I am on my Mac an using Firefox with no problems, but really want Safari to work since I typically use my iPad to read the forum and ads.
LookingFun1
05-04-17, 14:36
Just realized I made senior member! Sweet LOL.
NotYourAverage
05-04-17, 17:52
Just realized I made senior member! Sweet LOL.Congratulations!! You should be receiving your box of Golden Condoms for achieving your Senior status any day now!
MollyDaniels
05-05-17, 11:01
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Seriously?
Spam page? You mean forum sponsors who A2 is damn glad to have and are really nice guys because they pay the bills and keep the site free so we can use it so we should at least click their ad and see what they have page right?
A2
Simp4ebony
05-06-17, 08:10
I've noticed, when I post a review about a black girl in the forums, my posts tend to be ignored (as are any requests for information I post about black girls). But, whenever I post, I get tons of PM's about black girls.
I'm trying to figure out why talk about black girls is private, whereas all these other girls are talked about in public.
Whathesaid
05-06-17, 09:33
I've noticed, when I post a review about a black girl in the forums, my posts tend to be ignored (as are any requests for
I'm trying to figure out why talk about black girls is private, whereas all these other girls are talked about in public.They see their interest as an abberation? Anti-social? Violating Trump™ Correctness?
Afraid it might get picked up on their Town Hall or Stormfront handles?
Or worst of all, being seen with or encountering them in real life?
I've noticed, when I post a review about a black girl in the forums, my posts tend to be ignored (as are any requests for information I post about black girls). But, whenever I post, I get tons of PM's about black girls.
I'm trying to figure out why talk about black girls is private, whereas all these other girls are talked about in public.I saw Rene, because of your review and had a great time. So thanks for that.
MontyCliff
05-06-17, 10:10
I've noticed, when I post a review about a black girl in the forums, my posts tend to be ignored (as are any requests for information I post about black girls). But, whenever I post, I get tons of PM's about black girls.
I'm trying to figure out why talk about black girls is private, whereas all these other girls are talked about in public.I have read your posts / reviews and appreciate your contribution. Thank you. Now I don't pay that close of attention, but if you post primarily on black providers, vs white ones, it would be difficult to draw any conclusions by comparing the responses you receive. Unless you tend to see the same question repeatedly.
I've noticed, when I post a review about a black girl in the forums, my posts tend to be ignored (as are any requests for information I post about black girls). But, whenever I post, I get tons of PM's about black girls.
I'm trying to figure out why talk about black girls is private, whereas all these other girls are talked about in public.I don't feel any way about being "public. " I just find that I can get info quicker by sending a PM. Just replying to a forum message may get answered, or get buried a few pages down by the time the OP shows back up.
Then there's always the possibility that I'm just not interested in the girl on which you posted a review. Nothing nefarious here as far as I'm concerned.
Simp4ebony
05-07-17, 14:35
I have read your posts / reviews and appreciate your contribution. Thank you. Now I don't pay that close of attention, but if you post primarily on black providers, vs white ones, it would be difficult to draw any conclusions by comparing the responses you receive. Unless you tend to see the same question repeatedly.It's just the fact that, whenever I post, I get PM's of people wanting info. But it seems like info sharing on black girls is pretty limited to just a couple of guys. I've shared every experience I've had, but I wish I could get more intel sometimes.
Just realized I made senior member! Sweet LOL.Now you can become one of the elite psy hounds LOL Seriously keep up the good work.
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05-08-17, 01:20
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TravelinMan555
05-08-17, 01:45
It's just the fact that, whenever I post, I get PM's of people wanting info. But it seems like info sharing on black girls is pretty limited to just a couple of guys. I've shared every experience I've had, but I wish I could get more intel sometimes.I absolutely love spending private time with a Black provider and I have no problems publicly saying so.
The type of black provider I enjoy being with is one who has a natural "C" or "D" bust and is not overweight. I do not like Greek and I prefer that she kisses and has a clean, private and safe Incall. Any recommendations you may have would be appreciated.
TM.
Simp4ebony
05-09-17, 06:40
I absolutely love spending private time with a Black provider and I have no problems publicly saying so.
The type of black provider I enjoy being with is one who has a natural "C" or "D" bust and is not overweight. I do not like Greek and I prefer that she kisses and has a clean, private and safe Incall. Any recommendations you may have would be appreciated.
TM.TM, that sounds like EXACTLY what I'm always looking for! LOL. Who's on your short list??
TravelinMan555
05-10-17, 00:49
TM, that sounds like EXACTLY what I'm always looking for! LOL. Who's on your short list??Although I have not pulled the trigger yet and they are rather pricey, the three on my short list include Karmyn Bankz, Michelle Amour and Irresistible Ivy all three in Cincinnati and I would like to try one of them later this month or early June.
Plate of the day.
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Miel_15-2718-3033_14739.htm
Man was she good at what she did.
It is appropriate to hate me.
A2.
Plate of the day.
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Miel_15-2718-3033_14739.htm
Man was she good at what she did.
It is appropriate to hate me.
A2.Waiter, I'll want what A2 is having!
On top of all that she's Paraguayan
And she has a girlfriend.
Fuuuuhhhhuuuuhhhhkkkkkk I'm gonna go fucking broke, she wants 60 bucks an hour
A2
I hate you.
I don't travel much but this makes me think I should take a trip to the monger mansion.
Probably cost you something like 15 bucks.
Fdx
Plate of the day.
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Miel_15-2718-3033_14739.htm
Man was she good at what she did.
It is appropriate to hate me.
A2..
Plate of the day.
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Miel_15-2718-3033_14739.htm
Man was she good at what she did.
It is appropriate to hate me.
A2.But my god, I do love the look of that pussy! I'm think I'm going to shoot down to Buenos Aires instead of my usual haunt this summer.
Plate of the day.
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Miel_15-2718-3033_14739.htm
Man was she good at what she did.
It is appropriate to hate me.
A2.A FUCKING BRAGGARD and ONE LUCKY BSTRD LOL.
UPullAndPay3
05-12-17, 10:06
Plate of the day.
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Miel_15-2718-3033_14739.htm
Man was she good at what she did.
It is appropriate to hate me.
A2.I see you put this on (Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon") just to get us to Rants and Rave! Not me! You gave me something to dream about!
Plate of the day.
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Miel_15-2718-3033_14739.htm
Man was she good at what she did.
It is appropriate to hate me.
A2.If I go to BA, would she get in front of my camera?
I hate you.
I don't travel much but this makes me think I should take a trip to the monger mansion.
Probably cost you something like 15 bucks.
Fdx
.75 bucks.
If I go to BA, would she get in front of my camera?I reckon if the money was right.
75 bucks.
How long? 30 mins? 1 hr?
Is this Indy or brothel?
75 bucks.
I reckon if the money was right.I always pay more than union wages. Hey, what are Equidorian ladies like. I'm going to the Galápagos soon and will be spending some time in Quito.
WyldeChild99
05-14-17, 22:11
Anybody else get a Facebook friend request from Blonde Kitty? I am not sure if I should be pissed off, or just amazed. I'm hoping she's just dumb, and not trying to be smart.
Anybody else get a Facebook friend request from Blonde Kitty? I am not sure if I should be pissed off, or just amazed. I'm hoping she's just dumb, and not trying to be smart.It is not her, when you look up a lady it ties in with you stuff. Samething happens here all the time.
WyldeChild99
05-14-17, 22:21
It is not her, when you look up a lady it ties in with you stuff. Samething happens here all the time.Nah dude. I never looked her up on Facebook, and even if I did, that would not turn into an actual request from her to me. It wasn't just a "people you may know" thing. It was a friend request.
I've noticed, when I post a review about a black girl in the forums, my posts tend to be ignored (as are any requests for information I post about black girls). But, whenever I post, I get tons of PM's about black girls.
I'm trying to figure out why talk about black girls is private, whereas all these other girls are talked about in public.Here is one Black Provider I've seen several times. She's here until Wednesday. She has a great body, big booty and nice manmade melons.
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/chocolate-big-booty-bombshell/37323978
Simp4ebony
05-15-17, 06:46
Here is one Black Provider I've seen several times. She's here until Wednesday. She has a great body, big booty and nice manmade melons.
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/chocolate-big-booty-bombshell/37323978Thanks! That's one hell of an ass! I wish I could gather up dollars that quickly! LOL.
WyldeChild99
05-15-17, 15:28
Nah dude. I never looked her up on Facebook, and even if I did, that would not turn into an actual request from her to me. It wasn't just a "people you may know" thing. It was a friend request.And then there were the 5 mutual friends.
Cincyfunguy
05-15-17, 18:02
And then there were the 5 mutual friends.That still would not cause an actual Friend Request to be sent; if you are certain of something different you can correct me, but an actual Friend Request must be initiated by the owner of that page. There isn't automation that does this. There seems to be something more here.
CFG.
The last two times I asked for some dirty talk. The first one said a few things. The second time she asked me what to say. I just said say what you say to the other guys you ask. She said no one asks. Am I alone in asking for this?
I have recently been out the hobby for awhile. I was having trouble signing into my old account for some reason so I started a new account that I will be using Thammer. I see that recent activity is checked by some on screening. Since I had no reviews on my new account I figured it best to work on getting back into my old account. Here I am; though there are no recent reviews I hope to start posting in the near future and that past activity I do have will help if needed. I actually rarely posted reviews so I have seen many many more than what I have. But I will try and post from now on. Can't wait to dive back in.
The last two times I asked for some dirty talk. The first one said a few things. The second time she asked me what to say. I just said say what you say to the other guys you ask. She said no one asks. Am I alone in asking for this?I don; t think you're alone in this request and my experience is the same as yours. For suggestions do an Internet search on "How To Talk Dirty" This type of talk, when done right, can be a huge turn on for me, but I haven't had much luck in finding providers skilled in using it.
WyldeChild99
05-16-17, 07:09
That still would not cause an actual Friend Request to be sent; if you are certain of something different you can correct me, but an actual Friend Request must be initiated by the owner of that page. There isn't automation that does this. There seems to be something more here.
CFG.That's what I was saying. I met her one time, and she had to actually see my profile and think to herself, "Hey, I should send this dude a friend request. " My question is, "Why in the fuck would she do that?" In this discretion based hobby, she just lost herself any repeat business that might possibly have come from me, and got blocked from my social media. Then, there's the 5 mutual friends.
I don't discuss this activity with my buddies, so for all I know, Cincyfunguy, you and I might be friends in real life. Not that I'm passing judgement, it's just that I'd imagine you would like to keep your real name a secret, and if she ever gets outed as a professional, everybody on her friends list becomes suspect, which again begs the question, "Why the fuck would she do that? Don't smart people keep their personal lives separate from this hobby?
The last two times I asked for some dirty talk. The first one said a few things. The second time she asked me what to say. I just said say what you say to the other guys you ask. She said no one asks. Am I alone in asking for this?You are not.
Some gals have it. Some don't.
Vinnie Kramer
05-16-17, 10:53
OK, I admit, I don't have facebook (for this and a whole lot of other reasons) so I don't know how this works, but how did she know your real name or how to contact you?
Don't get me wrong, I agree it was ignorant if she did it, but didn't you leave yourself open to begin with?
That's what I was saying. I met her one time, and she had to actually see my profile and think to herself, "Hey, I should send this dude a friend request. " My question is, "Why in the fuck would she do that?" In this discretion based hobby, she just lost herself any repeat business that might possibly have come from me, and got blocked from my social media. Then, there's the 5 mutual friends.
I don't discuss this activity with my buddies, so for all I know, Cincyfunguy, you and I might be friends in real life. Not that I'm passing judgement, it's just that I'd imagine you would like to keep your real name a secret, and if she ever gets outed as a professional, everybody on her friends list becomes suspect, which again begs the question, "Why the fuck would she do that? Don't smart people keep their personal lives separate from this hobby?
Cintixtreme
05-16-17, 17:26
OK, I admit, I don't have facebook (for this and a whole lot of other reasons) so I don't know how this works, but how did she know your real name or how to contact you?
Don't get me wrong, I agree it was ignorant if she did it, but didn't you leave yourself open to begin with?If they have mutual friends, his profile could have popped up on her page as "People you may know". Facebook does that with friends of friends. So she may have simply seen the picture from that and recognized him. Ain't the internet great?
BuyingSmiles
05-16-17, 18:56
If they have mutual friends, his profile could have popped up on her page as "People you may know". Facebook does that with friends of friends. So she may have simply seen the picture from that and recognized him. Ain't the internet great?Facebook links with your contacts. If you have a hookers number in your phone book and their number is linked to their FB account, at some point, FB will suggest them as a friend. Works the same for the hooker. If she has your number in her address book and you use your real number (the same number you have linked to your Facebook account) for your hobby activities, her FB will eventually suggest you as a friend for her.
If you access the recommended friends list on your cell phone, it would be very easy to accidentally hit the send friend invite. I've done it before. If your realize that you invited someone by accident, you can quickly undo it. If you don't realize it, and keep scrolling, the invite is out there.
If you get an invite from some chick you payed to fuck, I'd say decline and move on. Odds are it was an accidental invitation. Perhaps she didn't even remember you as a paying customer. Maybe she saw you on the common friend's friends list and was like this guy is hot. Look if these girls had as many sticking out of them as they have had stuck in them they'd look like a porcupine. I can't imagine they remember every face that fucks them. He'll accept the invite and try to get some free pussy out of the deal.
Even though I use a texting ap for my activities, any saved hooker phone numbers and names are still in my address book. I have found many girls on my suggested friends list.
As far as common friends go, I've seen quite a few girls that I've had common friends with. I don't believe it is that uncommon to have a friend or to in common.
Vinnie Kramer
05-16-17, 18:56
Maybe, but if they have mutual friends as per your example and she sends a request I fail to see the harm?
It would be helpful for the OP to clarify exactly what happened. E. G. He told her his real name or used his real phone or made some statement about someone and she drew a connection that she tracked him down with. Not trying to be argumentative or slag the guy, just trying to understand the exposure point.
I'm relatively sure I've never told a girl my real full name, mostly because it has never come up.
Speaking of ain't the internet great, I just screwed up and I think posted half of my question by mistyping. Or I sent it to my entire address book.
Sorry for the half duplicate post if it comes through.
If they have mutual friends, his profile could have popped up on her page as "People you may know". Facebook does that with friends of friends. So she may have simply seen the picture from that and recognized him. Ain't the internet great?
PussNDicks
05-16-17, 23:33
You are not.
Some gals have it. Some don't.Cristen cremes does dirty talk real good if you ask her to.
WyldeChild99
05-17-17, 07:35
I'm not sure how she found me. That would be a question for her.
I don't have her number saved in my phone, and while I use my real first name when dealing with most people I meet, I sure didn't provide my last. If I had to guess, I'd say it was through mutual friends. Besides the possibility of a "people you may know" thing, a couple of those dudes are people I actually have a real friendship with. So, say one of them posts on facebook, and I say something back to them, then that post they made shows up on her feed with my reply, and a picture of me right next to my response. Then. Oh, I know that guy too, maybe I should connect. I just personally feel that this is a terrible idea. Not only are we not actually friends, but after this impropriety, what comes next? I'm not looking to find out. Discretion is a must in this business, and unless it's mutually agreed upon, personal lives should not meet. I have a life that could be seriously negatively impacted by any number of scenarios that involve being friends with a provider. Just imagine the possibilities.
On a similar note, I know a certain red haired provider in real life. She did lose those teeth in a bicycle accident BTW. I know her brother, I know her father, and I would NEVER contact her for a session. I would NEVER indicate to her that I know what she is up to in conversation, or her family. It would effect her entire family negatively, could ruin her Dad's career, an at the very least would start a storm of shit for her that I'm not going to be responsible for.
I'm not sure how she found me. That would be a question for her.
I don't have her number saved in my phone, and while I use my real first name when dealing with most people I meet, I sure didn't provide my last. If I had to guess, I'd say it was through mutual friends. Besides the possibility of a "people you may know" thing, a couple of those dudes are people I actually have a real friendship with. So, say one of them posts on facebook, and I say something back to them, then that post they made shows up on her feed with my reply, and a picture of me right next to my response. Then. Oh, I know that guy too, maybe I should connect. I just personally feel that this is a terrible idea. Not only are we not actually friends, but after this impropriety, what comes next? I'm not looking to find out. Discretion is a must in this business, and unless it's mutually agreed upon, personal lives should not meet. I have a life that could be seriously negatively impacted by any number of scenarios that involve being friends with a provider. Just imagine the possibilities.
On a similar note, I know a certain red haired provider in real life. She did lose those teeth in a bicycle accident BTW. I know her brother, I know her father, and I would NEVER contact her for a session. I would NEVER indicate to her that I know what she is up to in conversation, or her family. It would effect her entire family negatively, could ruin her Dad's career, an at the very least would start a storm of shit for her that I'm not going to be responsible for.Has a program that pushes out notifications to phone numbers that are connected to the account, using phone numbers associated with other facebooks that may have been used with each other. Such as texts, emails.
Very possible Facebook did this, not her.
Has a program that pushes out notifications to phone numbers that are connected to the account, using phone numbers associated with other facebooks that may have been used with each other. Such as texts, emails.
Very possible Facebook did this, not her.For this reason I NEVER associate a phone number with my social media accounts. This did it stop 3 providors from showing up in my "people you may know" feed on Facebook after texting with them. At least I learned their real names.
WyldeChild99
05-17-17, 20:03
Very possible Facebook did this, not her.This is not how that works.
WanderingAbout
05-21-17, 21:02
Who are the woman offering BBFS? Would like to avoid them due to potential health risks. This info may help others with same concern. Please share names of woman known to allow BBFS.
NotYourAverage
05-21-17, 21:19
Who are the woman offering BBFS? Would like to avoid them due to potential health risks. This info may help others with same concern. Please share names of woman known to allow BBFS.You do not mention BBBJ in your post, but only BBFS. I could be wrong, and it may not be at the same level, but doesn't a BBBJ also open one up for the same (or similar) potential health risks that BBFS does?
While it is a useful piece of information to know, It is my opinion that some members aren't always truthful when reporting about providers that allow BBFS.
Take care and be safe!!
CrazySteve45
05-21-17, 23:01
Who are the woman offering BBFS? Would like to avoid them due to potential health risks. This info may help others with same concern. Please share names of woman known to allow BBFS.I bareback every girl I see. So to me that's all of them.
Who are the woman offering BBFS? Would like to avoid them due to potential health risks. This info may help others with same concern. Please share names of woman known to allow BBFS.I'm not saying you are, but I'm always suspicious when someone pops up asking about who does BBFS because they want to "avoid" them. I normally get the feeling that they really want to make like the roadrunner to see them.
Anyway, for the purposes of answering your question, you should assume 90% or more will. If not the first date, they will eventually with regulars.
WanderingAbout
05-22-17, 07:27
I'm not saying you are, but I'm always suspicious when someone pops up asking about who does BBFS because they want to "avoid" them. I normally get the feeling that they really want to make like the roadrunner to see them.
Sir your assumption is incorrect. The word 'Avoid' is clearly stated.
Even if protection is used some people would rather avoid anyone who doesn't consistently play safe especially if they offer BBFS.
This request arose after a friend saw someone. Practiced safe sex. Then learned later they offered other people BBFS and wasnt clear about it with this friend. Rather avoid these people.
CrissyLynn2015
05-22-17, 07:39
Facebook friend requests can ONLY be sent perso ally. AND ANY WOMAN in this hobby knows better than to try to involve herself in they're personal life facebook or anything else for that matter. Its the first golden rule of ouR WORLD! Discretion is an absolute MUST. Everybody have fun and be safe.
Xoxo.
That's what I was saying. I met her one time, and she had to actually see my profile and think to herself, "Hey, I should send this dude a friend request. " My question is, "Why in the fuck would she do that?" In this discretion based hobby, she just lost herself any repeat business that might possibly have come from me, and got blocked from my social media. Then, there's the 5 mutual friends.
I don't discuss this activity with my buddies, so for all I know, Cincyfunguy, you and I might be friends in real life. Not that I'm passing judgement, it's just that I'd imagine you would like to keep your real name a secret, and if she ever gets outed as a professional, everybody on her friends list becomes suspect, which again begs the question, "Why the fuck would she do that? Don't smart people keep their personal lives separate from this hobby?
John HandCock
05-22-17, 09:12
Sir your assumption is incorrect. The word 'Avoid' is clearly stated.
Even if protection is used some people would rather avoid anyone who doesn't consistently play safe especially if they offer BBFS.
This request arose after a friend saw someone. Practiced safe sex. Then learned later they offered other people BBFS and wasnt clear about it with this friend. Rather avoid these people.Just go on the assumption for the right amount of $$ they all will. The ones that won't are probably the exception. Then consider do they make bf's wear protection?
Sir your assumption is incorrect. The word 'Avoid' is clearly stated.
Even if protection is used some people would rather avoid anyone who doesn't consistently play safe especially if they offer BBFS with anyone.
This request arose after a friend saw someone. Practiced safe sex. Then learned later they offered other people BBFS and wasnt clear about it with this friend. Rather avoid these people.If you are going to play in this hobby you simply can't avoid it unless you are making the assumption that they are truthful when they say no BBFS. Just use whatever level of protection works for your risk level. I mean, if you visit a girl that is known for BBBJWCIM, and then you kiss her an hour after seeing another dude, are you assuming all the other guy's baby chowder is all dissipated?
This is why I hardly ever DATY personally, but given that I've smooched a few, I'm probably just being delusional.
HuntLadys29
05-22-17, 15:54
Sir your assumption is incorrect. The word 'Avoid' is clearly stated.
Even if protection is used some people would rather avoid anyone who doesn't consistently play safe especially if they offer BBFS.
This request arose after a friend saw someone. Practiced safe sex. Then learned later they offered other people BBFS and wasnt clear about it with this friend. Rather avoid these people.Man if I'm reading your post correctly if any provider does BBFS you won't see them, then you should just retire from this hobby. And if you believe the lady when she says she doesn't BB then you're also foolish. The ladies are here to make money and that outweighs the risks, most everybody has a number dollar wise that will get them to do some things they thought they would would never even entertain let alone do. Greek not on the table? How about an extra 200 bucks? Ok just make sure you use a lot of lube cause it's going to hurt, and be quick. What about another 50 to go slow and take my time? Ok just don't cum in me. What about another 50 to cum in you? Ok. Get where I'm going? In this game money talks bullshit walks. HL29.
I can definitely attest to this post having invested extra money into my anal bareback endeavours when most were resistant at first. Strategic suggestion of extra money at critical moments will always chisel away at their initial defense to bareback, anal, cum in ass, creampie in pussy, etc. Even the most staunchest of opponents have been been invaded by my bare penis whether be it in ass or vagina [Deleted by Admin]
Since you never seem to know where the line is maybe if I keep showing you then you will figure it out.
A2
Man if I'm reading your post correctly if any provider does BBFS you won't see them, then you should just retire from this hobby. And if you believe the lady when she says she doesn't BB then you're also foolish. The ladies are here to make money and that outweighs the risks, most everybody has a number dollar wise that will get them to do some things they thought they would would never even entertain let alone do. Greek not on the table? How about an extra 200 bucks? Ok just make sure you use a lot of lube cause it's going to hurt, and be quick. What about another 50 to go slow and take my time? Ok just don't cum in me. What about another 50 to cum in you? Ok. Get where I'm going? In this game money talks bullshit walks. HL29.
Amon777 I can definitely attest to this post having invested extra money into my anal bareback endeavours when most were resistant at first. Strategic suggestion of extra money at critical moments will always chisel away at their initial defense to bareback, anal, cum in ass, creampie in pussy, etc. Even the most staunchest of opponents have been been invaded by my bare penis whether be it in ass or vagina.
Since you never seem to know where the line is maybe if I keep showing you then you will figure it out.
A2.
A2, given this guys past postings of him having green cum and the crazy weird shit he thinks is fun I am not sure he has a line or would even recognize it if it were pointed out to him and you drew him a picture.
NotYourAverage
05-23-17, 16:42
Has anyone else had issues with the pages downloading on Escort Babylon? I get a warning message that the site's security certificate expired yesterday, and the connection is no longer private and secure. If you bypass, the pages are all mixed up.
Any advice?
DaytonSteve
05-23-17, 19:41
Has anyone else had issues with the pages downloading on Escort Babylon? I get a warning message that the site's security certificate expired yesterday, and the connection is no longer private and secure. If you bypass, the pages are all mixed up.
Any advice?Just delete the HTTPs and reload, worked for me.
DaytonSteve
05-23-17, 19:51
Has anyone else had issues with the pages downloading on Escort Babylon? I get a warning message that the site's security certificate expired yesterday, and the connection is no longer private and secure. If you bypass, the pages are all mixed up.
Any advice?For example yolo.com.cincinnati. [URL]escortbabylon.com/ post /21763241/.
Instead of https://yolo.com.cincinnati.escortbabylon.com/post/21763241/.
Hope this helps and is what you meant.
NotYourAverage
05-24-17, 01:36
QUOTE=DaytonSteve;3401240 Just delete the HTTPs and reload, worked for me.
QUOTE=DaytonSteve;3401262 For example yolo.com.cincinnati. escortbabylon.com/ post /21763241/.
Instead of https://yolo.com.cincinnati.escortbabylon.com/post/21763241/..
Hope this helps and is what you meant.
Thanks DS, that seemed to do the trick! I am not as tech savvy as I would like to be and had no idea what the hell happened. I was beginning to go through withdrawal.
Who are the woman offering BBFS? Would like to avoid them due to potential health risks. This info may help others with same concern. Please share names of woman known to allow BBFS.All of them go bareback. I have seen my fair share, and they all offer it at some point. If you are half way decent looking and take the time to make them feel special, they will ask YOU for it. In the heat of the moment. I have had at least half a dozen try to pull me bareback inside them. If they have a condom it's not for there for them, it is there for you. If you are trying to avoid catching something, then GTFO of the hobby; because it is going to happen if you stay in. Eyes wide open, grasshopper. Be safe, educate yourself, and make no mistake; you are an elephant tiptoeing through a minefield.
DaytonSteve
05-24-17, 20:44
QUOTE=DaytonSteve;3401240 Just delete the HTTPs and reload, worked for me.
QUOTE=DaytonSteve;3401262 For example yolo.com.cincinnati. escortbabylon.com/ post /21763241/.
Instead of https://yolo.com.cincinnati.escortbabylon.com/post/21763241/..
Hope this helps and is what you meant.
Thanks DS, that seemed to do the trick! I am not as tech savvy as I would like to be and had no idea what the hell happened. I was beginning to go through withdrawal.Good deal, glad to help.
WanderingAbout
05-24-17, 21:36
You're saying you know for a fact Taylor Nikole, Cherry, Tara Butler, Summer Daze, Tonguetwister offer BBFS? Your claim they ALL do is Bull. As for grasshopper quip if you dont know who WordUp is then PO.
All of them go bareback. I have seen my fair share, and they all offer it at some point. If you are half way decent looking and take the time to make them feel special, they will ask YOU for it. In the heat of the moment. I have had at least half a dozen try to pull me bareback inside them. If they have a condom it's not for there for them, it is there for you. If you are trying to avoid catching something, then GTFO of the hobby; because it is going to happen if you stay in. Eyes wide open, grasshopper. Be safe, educate yourself, and make no mistake; you are an elephant tiptoeing through a minefield.
HuntLadys29
05-25-17, 05:46
You're saying you know for a fact Taylor Nikole, Cherry, Tara Butler, Summer Daze, Tonguetwister offer BBFS? Your claim they ALL do is Bull. As for grasshopper quip if you dont know who WordUp is then PO.Saying all girls BB is a broad stroke. But as I said in my post offer enough cash and I'm sure you can get BB from these working girls. It looks like you have a high opinion of the ladies you named above, I've only been with one of them, so I can't say what they will or will not do. But unless you are a fly on the wall or with them every hour of the day you can't say whether they will BB someone or not. I'm not trying to flame you, but you seem like you're taking this BB personal. Rants Raves and Opinions is just what the title says the guy gave his opinion as I gave mine. Oh and I know who WordUp is. HL29.
Cintixtreme
05-25-17, 07:21
You're saying you know for a fact Taylor Nikole, Cherry, Tara Butler, Summer Daze, Tonguetwister offer BBFS? Your claim they ALL do is Bull. As for grasshopper quip if you dont know who WordUp is then PO.I can't speak to all on your list, but I do know for a fact that one of them, whom I will not "out" even in PM, has not only done BBFS, but has done BB anal during a number of sessions. Maybe she doesn't any longer, but she did.
You're saying you know for a fact Taylor Nikole, Cherry, Tara Butler, Summer Daze, Tonguetwister offer BBFS? Your claim they ALL do is Bull. As for grasshopper quip if you dont know who WordUp is then PO.Look, it's your dick, so if you want it to fall off because you can't face reality then that's your call. I started out in Indianapolis and came over here several years ago, and every single girl that I have seen has offered bareback. In most cases it wasn't offered so much as they were just ready to go and didn't give a shit whether or not I had a condom on. To iterate his point further, I have never fucked one of these girls. Not a single one. What was offered was not even asked for on my behalf. I know there are guys that have been around the block way more than me, so if you want to get our are dicks and measure who knows more, you win I don't give a crap; maybe others have had different experiences, but for me it has been the same across the board. As for the grasshopper remark; I wasn't referring about your level of experience with these women or anyone else's, I was talking about the level of knowledge and understanding about "health risks" anyone doing this should be completely realistic and aware of. Younger or less experienced board members read these discussions and the benefit from content of a comment it doesn't just apply to one person. Whether or not it's a good thing, I'm an educated fucker with heavy background in biosciences, and have watched the nastiest of shit grow from a swab taken off of a bathroom door handle, the middle of somebody's shoulders, and a whole bunch of other places you would never think that you could find this stuff; if I know that, then I know how easy it is to catch something from one of these girls, and I am not faulting them for that in the least. So just to be clear, I'm speaking from what I have experienced and other people may have different experiences than me. Everything is relative. Your swizzle stick is bigger than mine, you win. I'm out, IDGAF, take it or leave it no skin off my back. BTW, if anybody knows of or has met one of these magical unicorns who never goes bareback please let me know. I would love to make her my regular (still you too. Maria). Peace, brother.
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