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I contacted her twice, attempting to get some info, to see if we could setup something. Each time she was annoying. She insisted to have my username before providing any shred of information. I never share my username with a provider up until the final stage of securing an appointment. Even by then, I am hesitant to share it at all. She said she needs to read a couple of my reviews before sharing any info. LOL, no thank you. Too much demanding for someone that I am supposed to make a donation to.
I just moved on and never looked back. I never do. As "D Nut" always says; I have the donation in my pocket and there are so many fish in the sea.There seem to be more and more complaints about providers not answering their phones or not replying to voicemail or texts, yet you find one who does, and you complain about it? Who doesn't provide their username in their first contact with a provider? I always do so that they can check my references right away so that we can move things along instead of wasting time with too many calls, PMs, emails, or texts.
MuffDiverDan
01-27-17, 09:13
For the one and only person who thought I was referring to muffdiverdan I was not its a completeky different person now mdd don't contact me cakling me ms drama queen if your conscience is thst guilty then maybe you need to change who and how you operate now for the last time keave me the hell alone.Hun if you get off the pain pills, you might be able to put a complete paragraph together with the correct spelling, just saying.
There seem to be more and more complaints about providers not answering their phones or not replying to voicemail or texts, yet you find one who does, and you complain about it? Who doesn't provide their username in their first contact with a provider? I always do so that they can check my references right away so that we can move things along instead of wasting time with too many calls, PMs, emails, or texts.My username is my password to pussy. I always use it. Can't think of any reason not too.
DeepBlue798
01-27-17, 10:11
Oh yes, exactly like you said. I do complain about it and I guess I prefer girls not answering their phones rather than picking it up and then annoy me.
And yes, I am very hesitant to give my username right away like the first thing into the conversation. And I am proud of it.
Give me some info first. Rates? -Oh that's too high, I am not going to see you so you don't need my username at all. Services? -Oh you require cover for the BJ? It's not going to work for me, you don't need my username at all.
If all the girls I am seeing know my username here, let alone the girls I inquiry information about; it might effect my "honest" reviews or it might effect my relationship with them. I don't need that.
To each his own. I operate like this and I am very proud of it. It works for me. Like I said before; there are plenty of fish in the sea and as long as I have "my" donation in "my" pocket, I just move on and never look back.
There seem to be more and more complaints about providers not answering their phones or not replying to voicemail or texts, yet you find one who does, and you complain about it? Who doesn't provide their username in their first contact with a provider? I always do so that they can check my references right away so that we can move things along instead of wasting time with too many calls, PMs, emails, or texts.
ItsTimeToEat
01-27-17, 10:33
My username is my password to pussy. I always use it. Can't think of any reason not too.Only complaint I have is that there is too much of it (pussy that is) my dick is wore the fuck out lately!
SilkyWetness
01-27-17, 11:36
Hun if you get off the pain pills, you might be able to put a complete paragraph together with the correct spelling, just saying.Hey muffdiverdan I'm really not trying to be rude at all but what is your problem seriously anyone on here knows me and they also know you can drug test me at anytime and I'd pass with flying colors I honestly don't even know why I bothered but you crossed the line so stop being so butthurt because I called I called you out on several lies one major one in fact if what I'm saying bothers you so much just block me so you don't have to see I mean that's what the ignore function is for after all and don't call me hun only my friends do.
I can call her hun
Hun I don't care that you write like a kid, I think it's a lack of editing not drugs myself
A2
SilkyWetness
01-27-17, 11:38
Hun if you get off the pain pills, you might be able to put a complete paragraph together with the correct spelling, just saying.Hey muffdiverdan I'm really not trying to be rude at all but what is your problem seriously anyone on here knows me and they also know you can drug test me at anytime and I'd pass with flying colors I honestly don't even know why I bothered but you crossed the line so stop being so butthurt because I called I called you out on several lies one major one in fact if what I'm saying bothers you so much just block me so you don't have to see I mean that's what the ignore function is for after all and don't call me hun only my friends do so don't worry about my punctuation or being the grammar police I guess viagara doesn't fix being an asshat.
BuyingSmiles
01-27-17, 13:28
Hun if you get off the pain pills, you might be able to put a complete paragraph together with the correct spelling, just saying.Although, it's been many months since my last visit, I've seen silk probably 20 times (if not more). Every visit was 100% pleaserable and never have I seen anything to indicate her use of pain meds. I'm not saying it's not possible. I have seen many girls, some in as few as one visit, I saw tell tale signs. For her, in the many visits, over a few years time, I've seen nothing to indicate what you spew out as fact. It just seems like a bit of douchbabgery on your part to attack her this way. I'm just saying.
And by the way, I'm not trying to be a white knife here, just talking, one asshole to another.
BuyingSmiles!
HuntLadys29
01-27-17, 17:13
Oh yes, exactly like you said. I do complain about it and I guess I prefer girls not answering their phones rather than picking it up and then annoy me.
And yes, I am very hesitant to give my username right away like the first thing into the conversation. And I am proud of it.
Give me some info first. Rates? -Oh that's too high, I am not going to see you so you don't need my username at all. Services? -Oh you require cover for the BJ? It's not going to work for me, you don't need my username at all.
If all the girls I am seeing know my username here, let alone the girls I inquiry information about; it might effect my "honest" reviews or it might effect my relationship with them. I don't need that.
To each his own. I operate like this and I am very proud of it. It works for me. Like I said before; there are plenty of fish in the sea and as long as I have "my" donation in "my" pocket, I just move on and never look back.I will use my username when I'm contacting ladies that use the USASG as there main mode of advertising that usually gets things going at a faster pace they are less likely to balk at giving rates or menu options also less screening, because then after initial contact if they want a pm then that verifies me right there. Now if she advertises on BP or another site I can see not giving your username. But that's how I operate just because DeepBlue doesn't operate that way doesn't mean it isn't the way to do it he's got a way that works for him why knock it. HL29.
JohnnyBoy69
01-28-17, 01:57
Although, it's been many months since my last visit, I've seen silk probably 20 times (if not more). Every visit was 100% pleaserable and never have I seen anything to indicate her use of pain meds. I'm not saying it's not possible. I have seen many girls, some in as few as one visit, I saw tell tale signs. For her, in the many visits, over a few years time, I've seen nothing to indicate what you spew out as fact. It just seems like a bit of douchbabgery on your part to attack her this way. I'm just saying.
And by the way, I'm not trying to be a white knife here, just talking, one asshole to another.
BuyingSmiles!Agree with buyingsmiles. Have seen her a couple.
Times over the past and each time was spot on. No issues.
Can't wait to go back! (And I'll ask her to wear those boots I like!
JB.
Hey muffdiverdan I'm really not trying to be rude at all but what is your problem seriously anyone on here knows me and they also know you can drug test me at anytime and I'd pass with flying colors I honestly don't even know why I bothered but you crossed the line so stop being so butthurt because I called I called you out on several lies one major one in fact if what I'm saying bothers you so much just block me so you don't have to see I mean that's what the ignore function is for after all and don't call me hun only my friends do.
I can call her hun
Hun I don't care that you write like a kid, I think it's a lack of editing not drugs myself
A2I've seen Silk a few times over the years. Most recently within the last couple of months. I found no problem what so ever.
I don't like getting out the white knight suit, but damn.
HuntLadys29
01-28-17, 06:21
I've seen Silk a few times over the years. Most recently within the last couple of months. I found no problem what so ever.
I don't like getting out the white knight suit, but damn.No need to to take up for Silk, I've known her as a provider and friend since 2012 she knows how to take up for herself. And I don't have known drug users as friends. Text me if you need anything Silk.HL29
MuffDiverDan
01-28-17, 07:35
Believe me I've had enough of her, so sorry I ruffled your feather's boys all I was doing was repeating what a well known and respected provider told me, not sure why she would lie about it, but put your swords away boys and take off your body armor, it's all going to be OK.
SilkyWetness
01-28-17, 11:56
Here's an idea you keep your mouth shut about me and ill keep ignoring you and well go our seperate ways respected provider haha have fun in rainbow kitty and butterfly land peace out mic drop.
Hows that for spell check and proper sentence grouping.
BuyingSmiles
01-28-17, 16:07
Believe me I've had enough of her, so sorry I ruffled your feather's boys all I was doing was repeating what a well known and respected provider told me, not sure why she would lie about it, but put your swords away boys and take off your body armor, it's all going to be OK.You sound like the bullshit press, you have a great source, yet you won't say who it is. I don't give a fuck who it is (your source), you threw out something you heard. Yet you spewed it out, like venom from a cobra, as if you knew first hand something about this girl and her personal habits. My argument isn't as much about how good of a girl that Silk is, as much as it is about you being a douchbag.
Just repeating stuff that you hear from one girl in a public forum in the form of a personal attack is Bullshit. It gives you no credibility, nor does a gain respect from any ladies or mongers. It's one thing to express the things you've learned firsthand or even to qualify your statement as being secondhand knowledge. It's another to come out with an unprovoked, personal attack armed, with facts you heard from an unnamed provider.
If you would have said Silk gives lame head and she scraped your Dick with her teeth the whole time I couldn't & wouldn't say you are full of shit. I'd probably think to me self, thank god my dick isn't so big, that Silk's teeth scratch it to death. Or if you said, she is the worst reverse cowgirl experience you ever had. I'd think you were either blind or on drugs your self, but I wouldn't call you out as being an asshole. Or even say it wasn't true for you. See the difference between passing firsthand information (your opinion based off personal experience) & the bullshit, you spewed out as fact (your personal attack based on hearsay).
Again just one asshole, talking to another.
BuyingSmiles!
OneBigRichard
01-28-17, 16:38
Here's an idea you keep your mouth shut about me and ill keep ignoring you and well go our seperate ways respected provider haha have fun in rainbow kitty and butterfly land peace out mic drop.
Hows that for spell check and proper sentence grouping.Your the best. OBR.
Dillsborodave
01-28-17, 19:35
I don't know of any woman who isn't on something. That goes for scripted and non-scripted.
Believe me I've had enough of her, so sorry I ruffled your feather's boys all I was doing was repeating what a well known and respected provider told me, not sure why she would lie about it, but put your swords away boys and take off your body armor, it's all going to be OK.So everything you said was based on second hand information. I know I am not local, but in Memphis I would never make a review unless I knew from my own experience. But that's my standards. Yours are clearly less.
RicoTrebor
01-28-17, 22:24
I will use my username when I'm contacting ladies that use the USASG as there main mode of advertising that usually gets things going at a faster pace they are less likely to balk at giving rates or menu options also less screening, because then after initial contact if they want a pm then that verifies me right there. Now if she advertises on BP or another site I can see not giving your username. But that's how I operate just because DeepBlue doesn't operate that way doesn't mean it isn't the way to do it he's got a way that works for him why knock it. HL29.I will 2nd HL2's report of his dream's with Silk. I have had a few dreams with Silk and never found her to show ANY signs of drug-use. Always communicated well and was enthusiastic. Great experience.
As for MuffDiverDan -- I am sure he will say that I am a "white night". It must be tough to have to accuse everyone else who simply chooses to disagree of some kind of bullshit or another. After reading MDDan's ridiculous statement, I am sure he downplay my post with my being new on here. Whatever; the 2 fucks I gave about what other people actually think I gave up A LONG time ago. My opinions are based upon experiences and facts.
SINCE WHEN DO WE ADVERTISE WEB CAMS IN THE CLASSFIEDS?
I COUNTED 1 GIRL POSTED 13 X REPETIVELY.
AND ANOTHER 11 X. Don't YOU THINK ONCE A DAY IS ENOUGH??
AND IT IS FOR Sunday. TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT IS Saturday AT 9:50 PM.
THE GOOD PROVIDERS ARE BEING PASSED UP BECAUSE TOO MANY PAGES.
IT PUSHES ALL THE GOOD PROVIDERS ON ANOTHER PAGE. TOO MANY PAGES NOW.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE A2.
Yeah two things need to change and really fucking quick
1. You need to learn how to use the fucking filters on the site, there isn't one single web cam ad in the
Independent Escorts thread.
Here's the thread you're complaining about with the filters applied
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/
2. You need to learn to write me in private to address your issues before you shoot your fucking mouth off in public and embarrass yourself like this, it's not my fucking fault that you're too fucking stupid to use the filters.
Before you make the mistake of treating me like one of your fucking customers that likes to be dominated and humiliated you best fucking remember that I will run your fucking ass off this site in a New York fucking minute if you ever speak to me like this again.
One more fucking thing, good providers are NEVER, fucking EVER passed by. That has never been more evident than by what has been written on this thread in the last two days. Good providers are so few and far between that guys will drive fucking miles to see them. If you're not getting calls there might be another reason.
A2
MuffDiverDan
01-29-17, 07:17
You sound like the bullshit press, you have a great source, yet you won't say who it is. I don't give a fuck who it is (your source), you threw out something you heard. Yet you spewed it out, like venom from a cobra, as if you knew first hand something about this girl and her personal habits. My argument isn't as much about how good of a girl that Silk is, as much as it is about you being a douchbag.
Just repeating stuff that you hear from one girl in a public forum in the form of a personal attack is Bullshit. It gives you no credibility, nor does a gain respect from any ladies or mongers. It's one thing to express the things you've learned firsthand or even to qualify your statement as being secondhand knowledge. It's another to come out with an unprovoked, personal attack armed, with facts you heard from an unnamed provider.
If you would have said Silk gives lame head and she scraped your Dick with her teeth the whole time I couldn't & wouldn't say you are full of shit. I'd probably think to me self, thank god my dick isn't so big, that Silk's teeth scratch it to death. Or if you said, she is the worst reverse cowgirl experience you ever had. I'd think you were either blind or on drugs your self, but I wouldn't call you out as being an asshole. Or even say it wasn't true for you. See the difference between passing firsthand information (your opinion based off personal experience) & the bullshit, you spewed out as fact (your personal attack based on hearsay).
Again just one asshole, talking to another.
BuyingSmiles!Listen just because you have no friends you can trust, don't flap your gums about people who do, you're probably oblivious that when a trusted friend says something It's almost the same as seeing it, so go fuck yourself with a cactus and concentrate on something worth talking about,because burlap is a beat subject, her teeth didn't rot out from eating Hershey bars, and there's no need to give out my more than one source so asshole's like you can attack them. Over and Out
Peace
To fucking sucking and eating pussy? I mean that is why many of us are on here. If you don't like someone say so then STFU and go find some good pussy you do like and fuck it. Works for me. Beating a dead horse doesn't work believe me I tried it with a worthless POS that used to be on here. Now I just find ladies to love and do my best to "get it on" LOL So fight if you must but believe me when I tell you that SEX is a whole hell of a lot better than fighting. If you are married but looking for pussy on here you know that is the truth or ya wouldn't be here. Just sayin Have a great day all and remember candy is dandy but sex won't rot your teeth.
One more fucking thing, good providers are NEVER, fucking EVER passed by. That has never been more evident than by what has been written on this thread in the last two days. Good providers are so few and far between that guys will drive fucking miles to see them. If you're not getting calls there might be another reason.
A2Amen to that!
Amen to that!I drive over 5 hours to visit one out of state she is so hot and there are a number of those on the Cincy Dayton Columbus triangle, and some very UTR Tennessee ladies who will light up your nethers and who will flat fuck you to death if you treat them well and with respect. And guess what NO FKING DRUGS, crazy azzed BFs or Husbands and no C and Ds or NS's.
It's been about a year since I last saw the six foot Aries. She contacted me recently and wanted some new photos. I naturally said yes. She asked if she could bring her lover Andrea along. I naturally said yes. She still swallows. I'll bet Andrea does too.
It's been about a year since I last saw the six foot Aries. She contacted me recently and wanted some new photos. I naturally said yes. She asked if she could bring her lover Andrea along. I naturally said yes. She still swallows. I'll bet Andrea does too.In the offing and how far away is Memphis from Indy.
It's been about a year since I last saw the six foot Aries. She contacted me recently and wanted some new photos. I naturally said yes. She asked if she could bring her lover Andrea along. I naturally said yes. She still swallows. I'll bet Andrea does too.Glock what is up with the chick in the fronts legs? Is that some odd effect from the camera? It looks like she has some kind of circles drawn all over them.
A2.
Glock what is up with the chick in the fronts legs? Is that some odd effect from the camera? It looks like she has some kind of circles drawn all over them.
A2.That's Aries, a very fair skinned blonde. I suspect that it is blood vessels popping out from her kneeling position. They don't appear in other nonkneeling positions. They are more apparent in the uploading pictures rather than the original shots. There may be a slight color shift to the uploaded USASG site, not sure about that though. I may do some tests to see. I was also using my 18-200 mm Nikkor lens rather that my usual 18-55 mm that I normally use when photographing the ladies. That is my carry lens and it is very sharp and somewhat unforgiving to blemishes.
Here is another shot of Andrea on Aries to compare.
That's Aries, a very fair skinned blonde. I suspect that it is blood vessels popping out from her kneeling position. They don't appear in other nonkneeling positions. They are more apparent in the uploading pictures rather than the original shots. There may be a slight color shift to the uploaded USASG site, not sure about that though. I may do some tests to see. I was also using my 18-200 mm Nikkor lens rather that my usual 18-55 mm that I normally use when photographing the ladies. That is my carry lens and it is very sharp and somewhat unforgiving to blemishes.
Here is another shot of Andrea on Aries to compare.Andrea seems like a cute ball of fire also.
That's Aries, a very fair skinned blonde. I suspect that it is blood vessels popping out from her kneeling position. They don't appear in other nonkneeling positions. They are more apparent in the uploading pictures rather than the original shots. There may be a slight color shift to the uploaded USASG site, not sure about that though. I may do some tests to see. I was also using my 18-200 mm Nikkor lens rather that my usual 18-55 mm that I normally use when photographing the ladies. That is my carry lens and it is very sharp and somewhat unforgiving to blemishes.
Here is another shot of Andrea on Aries to compare.I'm not sure I can see a difference. Perhaps the statistical sample is too small. I think if you post 15 or 20 more of the series we might be able to figure it out.
A2.
I'm not sure I can see a difference. Perhaps the statistical sample is too small. I think if you post 15 or 20 more of the series we might be able to figure it out.
A2.Is a DOM A2 LOL Good call though and GREAT IDEA!
Sabadogigante
01-30-17, 17:07
For fun, I'll post a w4 m ad or maybe a gig ad and see if I get any responses. Lately every ad I post is instantly flagged no matter the content. Is there some douche going on there and flagging everything or what? Is this happening to anyone else? I'm posting within the guidelines of the site so its ok content wise.
Dillsborodave
01-30-17, 17:41
For fun, I'll post a w4 m ad or maybe a gig ad and see if I get any responses. Lately every ad I post is instantly flagged no matter the content. Is there some douche going on there and flagging everything or what? Is this happening to anyone else? I'm posting within the guidelines of the site so its ok content wise.People posting fake ads are the douche bags.
I'm not sure I can see a difference. Perhaps the statistical sample is too small. I think if you post 15 or 20 more of the series we might be able to figure it out.
A2.I always obey A2's requests, but can only post 10 at one time. Hope you can figure it out. I can only guess!
NotYourAverage
01-30-17, 18:57
For fun, I'll post a w4 m ad or maybe a gig ad and see if I get any responses. Lately every ad I post is instantly flagged no matter the content. Is there some douche going on there and flagging everything or what? Is this happening to anyone else? I'm posting within the guidelines of the site so its ok content wise.Unless you are wanting a collection of cock pics, why would you post in the W4 M section? A straight man would post in M4 W, correct? We all know that 90% of the ads on CL are fake anyway, and you are just adding to the BS.
I tend to agree with Dillsborodave.
Sabadogigante
01-31-17, 11:53
LOL yeah that's a typo I mean M4 W not W4 M. I didn't even notice that when I posted. I post in M4 W just seeing if I can get a result. When I post in Casual or gigs, it gets flagged instantly which pisses me off.
Unless you are wanting a collection of cock pics, why would you post in the W4 M section? A straight man would post in M4 W, correct? We all know that 90% of the ads on CL are fake anyway, and you are just adding to the BS.
I tend to agree with Dillsborodave.
Any providers use the pm side of this site? I've tried to pm a few providers and had no luck.
Second chances. (and sorry if I start to rant.).
So recently, I set up an appointment with one of the very well reviewed providers for USASG. It was done in advance and all appeared to be going well. I sent a text that morning to confirm, also sent one when I was still a few miles out. In return she sent me a text with the room number. When I arrived at the location, I sent a text telling her I just got there and was headed up. This is when things got. Weird. I knocked on the door. She took longer than I would have thought needed to answer. Once she did, she only opened it enough to say that I needed to come back in a few minutes, she wasn't ready, and shut the door. Big head starting to overcome the little head at this point. I didn't want to stand around in the hallway, so I went back to the car. I sent a text asking her to let me know when it was ok to come back. **crickets*.
I sent an additional 2 text while waiting almost 30 minutes (I'll explain this madness latter). I finally figure that is was not going to happen, so I send another text saying I'm leaving **crickets* After a few more minutes, I get a text from here asking where I was? I reminded her that she asked me to leave and comeback later, and that I had also sent texts asking what was going on. She replied that she had sent "A" text saying to come up, but it must not have gone through. Sorry. Several minutes after that, I get another one say that she is still available if I want to return. At this point, I could not because the window for my visit had gotten to short. But I said I can do later in the day. That didn't pan out either. But there was talk of trying a different day.
So Negatives:
Several hours of wasted time.
Had to swap my schedule at work to get a weekday off, cost me my entire weekend.
About 140 mile round trip.
A not so nice experience with a provider that I had wanted to se for a long time.
Positives:
I stopped at a local gun shop and found a new toy, on sale even, that I had been after for a while. So trip wasn't a total waste.
So after all that, to my question. Should I try a second chance?? Or just right it off.
Dillsborodave
02-02-17, 12:35
Seems like every time I try to expand my horizons I get frustrated or disappointed. Last year when I got together with Colerain Kim we kind of bickered because she wanted to wait till I was in the parking lot to give me the room number. I have been doing this before cell phones and like to know exactly where I need to go before I leave the house. I have been left high and dry by this method before and it was kind of a sore spot before we met. But we did meet and she was fun but still had the frustration. Just this week I call Sunday and had a 3 pm set up with Brookee. Already was vouched and everything by Colerain kim so everything was good to go. Text her Wed. And asked if we were still on and she said she couldn't meet till 7:30. Frustration once again. I guess this all goes with the business when meeting someone new. This brings me to the point of being spoiled. I have been a regular with one of the best in the city for the last 7 years. I have seen her over 60 times and she has never cancelled on me once. Guess I will wait till my regular goes out of business to try to find a replacement. I thought I had one with cupcake.
I always obey A2's requests, but can only post 10 at one time. Hope you can figure it out. I can only guess!Got to say that the little blonde with all the tattoos is quite sexy indeed. They both are. Thanks for sharing them.
ThomasPaine showed real class and did a mea culpa, tip o the hat from A2.
I did not notice you had broken the link, my mistake and I apologize for chewing your ass about it. That showed forethought and a degree of compassion not often seen here.
Well played sir,
A2
Winston1984
02-03-17, 01:23
I've been reading up on the Tao, and have generally been a fan of the 3rd way for a while. I would neither start from a clean slate and give her another chance nor cross her off the list. I would move her down the list. I would try to see 2 or 3 other providers first. Then if the reviews are still good, I would try her again. Reasoning she might be turning bad after a time of earning good reviews or it might be a one of event. Time and more reviews should tell. So in short a cooling off period for both parties is my advice.
Second chances. (and sorry if I start to rant.).
So recently, I set up an appointment with one of the very well reviewed providers for USASG. It was done in advance and all appeared to be going well. I sent a text that morning to confirm, also sent one when I was still a few miles out. In return she sent me a text with the room number. When I arrived at the location, I sent a text telling her I just got there and was headed up. This is when things got. Weird. I knocked on the door. She took longer than I would have thought needed to answer. Once she did, she only opened it enough to say that I needed to come back in a few minutes, she wasn't ready, and shut the door. Big head starting to overcome the little head at this point. I didn't want to stand around in the hallway, so I went back to the car. I sent a text asking her to let me know when it was ok to come back. **crickets*.
I sent an additional 2 text while waiting almost 30 minutes (I'll explain this madness latter). I finally figure that is was not going to happen, so I send another text saying I'm leaving **crickets* After a few more minutes, I get a text from here asking where I was? I reminded her that she asked me to leave and comeback later, and that I had also sent texts asking what was going on. She replied that she had sent "A" text saying to come up, but it must not have gone through. Sorry. Several minutes after that, I get another one say that she is still available if I want to return. At this point, I could not because the window for my visit had gotten to short. But I said I can do later in the day. That didn't pan out either. But there was talk of trying a different day.
So Negatives:
Several hours of wasted time.
Had to swap my schedule at work to get a weekday off, cost me my entire weekend.
About 140 mile round trip.
A not so nice experience with a provider that I had wanted to se for a long time.
Positives:
I stopped at a local gun shop and found a new toy, on sale even, that I had been after for a while. So trip wasn't a total waste.
So after all that, to my question. Should I try a second chance?? Or just right it off.
WillWallace
02-03-17, 09:59
I've been thinking for a while that it might be best to upgrade to a burner phone for various reasons and was wondering what you guys thinks is the best service to go with. There are so many on the market these days so I thought this might be a good place to ask.
Thanks.
WW.
I've been thinking for a while that it might be best to upgrade to a burner phone for various reasons and was wondering what you guys thinks is the best service to go with. There are so many on the market these days so I thought this might be a good place to ask.
Thanks.
WW.I use a Trac Phone from Walmart. No problems with it. I use a fake email account to initialize it. Be sure to add data with a data only card to it if you text a lot.
I use a Trac Phone from Walmart. No problems with it. I use a fake email account to initialize it. Be sure to add data with a data only card to it if you text a lot.Another option is to download an app such as text free and use it. You get a separate number and you can text all you want. Only thing is to get minutes to call you need to either buy minutes or watch 1 minute videos to get free minutes. Either way if theres a nut case calling you just delete app and start over with new number. Just an option. Stay safe.
WillWallace
02-03-17, 12:18
I use a Trac Phone from Walmart. No problems with it. I use a fake email account to initialize it. Be sure to add data with a data only card to it if you text a lot.Thanks Glockman,
I heard that trac phone deducts a minute from your time for each text message sent or received is that the reason to get the data only card?
I've been thinking for a while that it might be best to upgrade to a burner phone for various reasons and was wondering what you guys thinks is the best service to go with. There are so many on the market these days so I thought this might be a good place to ask.
Thanks.
WW.I also use a Trac phone, I did not have to put any info in except zip and I use a diferant code, the rest info just said do it later. $20 for 3 months / 60 minutes, and most of the time they give a code that gives a free extra 60 minutes. As long as you add minutes to it before the 3 months is up your left over minutes carry over.
UOnlyLiveOnce
02-03-17, 13:57
Second chances. (and sorry if I start to rant.).
So recently, I set up an appointment with one of the very well reviewed providers for USASG. It was done in advance and all appeared to be going well. I sent a text that morning to confirm, also sent one when I was still a few miles out. In return she sent me a text with the room number. When I arrived at the location, I sent a text telling her I just got there and was headed up. This is when things got. Weird. I knocked on the door. She took longer than I would have thought needed to answer. Once she did, she only opened it enough to say that I needed to come back in a few minutes, she wasn't ready, and shut the door. Big head starting to overcome the little head at this point. I didn't want to stand around in the hallway, so I went back to the car. I sent a text asking her to let me know when it was ok to come back. **crickets*.
I sent an additional 2 text while waiting almost 30 minutes (I'll explain this madness latter). I finally figure that is was not going to happen, so I send another text saying I'm leaving **crickets* After a few more minutes, I get a text from here asking where I was? I reminded her that she asked me to leave and comeback later, and that I had also sent texts asking what was going on. She replied that she had sent "A" text saying to come up, but it must not have gone through. Sorry. Several minutes after that, I get another one say that she is still available if I want to return. At this point, I could not because the window for my visit had gotten to short. But I said I can do later in the day. That didn't pan out either. But there was talk of trying a different day.
So Negatives:
Several hours of wasted time.
Had to swap my schedule at work to get a weekday off, cost me my entire weekend.
About 140 mile round trip.
A not so nice experience with a provider that I had wanted to se for a long time.
Positives:
I stopped at a local gun shop and found a new toy, on sale even, that I had been after for a while. So trip wasn't a total waste.
So after all that, to my question. Should I try a second chance?? Or just right it off.I had a similar experience, also with a well reviewed provider. We had a time arranged, I got there on time, I texted from a block away asking if she was ready, she said I'm almost ready but you can go ahead and pull up. I did, texted to ask if it was ok to come to the door now (I didn't want to assume it was ok and, you know, a lot of women have flexible definitions of "almost ready"), then crickets. Waited a few minutes, texted again asking if it was ok to come to door now. Crickets. Waited a bit more and then left, as I was getting uneasy just sitting there in my car.
I get about 1/4 or 1/2 mile away, she sends a couple texts asking where I was and said something about her phone dying in the course of those texts. "Phone died" was the wrong thing to say to me. Had she not said it, I would have gone back and chalked it up as just one of those things you have to be patient with in the hobby. But dead phones are something of an epidemic among providers, and I guess I'd just heard it one too many times. I went home. I do not plan on going back. I did not travel as far as you, but time was still wasted. To each his own.
WillWallace
02-03-17, 14:44
I also use a Trac phone, I did not have to put any info in except zip and I use a diferant code, the rest info just said do it later. $20 for 3 months / 60 minutes, and most of the time they give a code that gives a free extra 60 minutes. As long as you add minutes to it before the 3 months is up your left over minutes carry over.Thanks Mbgbe696 for the info!
I have 6 active cell phones and a landline. .
I really need to downsize since I'm single now.
Thanks Glockman,
I heard that trac phone deducts a minute from your time for each text message sent or received is that the reason to get the data only card?I think it's 30 seconds. But a bunch of texts will use up your data quick. Then with no warning you suddenly can't text even though you have lots of minutes left for talking. The data for texting is seperate from minutes from talking. But you can add 1000 minutes of data pretty cheap.
ThomasPaine
02-03-17, 19:59
Interestingly, this article appeared just the other day for everyone's reference.
NOTE THE APP MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WISH TO CARRY A SECOND PHONE AROUND:
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/7-great-burner-phones/
Tommy.
I've been thinking for a while that it might be best to upgrade to a burner phone for various reasons and was wondering what you guys thinks is the best service to go with. There are so many on the market these days so I thought this might be a good place to ask.
Thanks.
WW.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-03-17, 23:55
Interestingly, this article appeared just the other day for everyone's reference.
NOTE THE APP MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WISH TO CARRY A SECOND PHONE AROUND:
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/7-great-burner-phones/
Tommy.I don't know why anyone would have a burner when all you have to do is download either Google Voice or Sideline to your smart phone.
Either work well for both text and talk. No need to pay for another phone, even a cash only burner. Much more convenient.
3-Minute Passion
02-04-17, 11:51
I don't know why anyone would have a burner when all you have to do is download either Google Voice or Sideline to your smart phone.
Either work well for both text and talk. No need to pay for another phone, even a cash only burner. Much more convenient.Burner phone is not the solution. What if you got caught with the burner phone? How would you explain that? There is a free program called NQ Vault. Does everything. What is great about it is that it appears as a calculator (that works, by the way). You enter your password and then hit enter and bingo. Pictures, numbers, conversations, etc. All there.
SimonPieMan
02-04-17, 14:45
I don't know why anyone would have a burner when all you have to do is download either Google Voice or Sideline to your smart phone.
Either work well for both text and talk. No need to pay for another phone, even a cash only burner. Much more convenient.I have a Sprint Business account for my personal cell service. It blocks Google Voice. I haven't tried Sideline but will check it out along with the other apps. I think one of the advantages of a burner phone is it's disposable. May come in handy under certain situations.
SP.
Burner phone is not the solution. What if you got caught with the burner phone? How would you explain that? There is a free program called NQ Vault. Does everything. What is great about it is that it appears as a calculator (that works, by the way). You enter your password and then hit enter and bingo. Pictures, numbers, conversations, etc. All there.I make sure when I'm done playing ,it is put away and hidden in a place that can not be found, that's the first thing I do when I get home. I even have it password locked out. Some things have to be top priority and this is it. I like the fact that it is safe and not tied to me I use it for nothing else but to hobby,and yes I can throw it away.
CinciScubaDude
02-04-17, 22:51
I don't know why anyone would have a burner when all you have to do is download either Google Voice or Sideline to your smart phone.
Because work pays for my phone and there is no way I would ever think about having anything hobby related on a work phone.
CinciScubaDude
02-04-17, 23:13
I don't know why anyone would have a burner when all you have to do is download either Google Voice or Sideline to your smart phone.
Because work pays for my phone and there is no way I would ever think about having anything hobby related on a work phone.
I don't know why anyone would have a burner when all you have to do is download either Google Voice or Sideline to your smart phone.
Either work well for both text and talk. No need to pay for another phone, even a cash only burner. Much more convenient.I can think of a lot of reasons why someone would want a burner phone rather than download an app to a smart phone, but most come down to personal preference. Some people do not own a smart phone or want to download another app. Some are not convinced that an app is as anonymous as advertised. Another would be that if one does have the unfortunate luck of being arrested in a prostitution sting, they would rather have a burner phone rather than their personal phone confiscated as a criminal tool and locked up as evidence. Just my 2 cents.
Vinnie Kramer
02-05-17, 12:43
I've seen a girl a couple times now over the last couple weeks and she seems to have quite the persistent sniffle.
She's never tried to cover her arms or other likely injection sites like I see in some reports. Always fully naked for the deed. But this most recent time she was also sweating pretty good when we hadn't even been in bed 5 minutes and she had been outside in 40 degree weather just a few minutes earlier.
I've also seen a sketchy character hanging around that sure seems like a dope boy. She was with him while I was watching from down the street before my most recent visit.
Dope sick?
Beaver Pleaser
02-05-17, 18:05
Interestingly, this article appeared just the other day for everyone's reference.
NOTE THE APP MENTIONED IN THIS ARTICLE FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WISH TO CARRY A SECOND PHONE AROUND:
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/7-great-burner-phones/
Tommy.Does anyone have experience with or opinion on this service? http://myaka.com/.
It seems reasonably priced and they seem to be privacy focused. Also does not require an app or second phone.
I've seen a girl a couple times now over the last couple weeks and she seems to have quite the persistent sniffle.
She's never tried to cover her arms or other likely injection sites like I see in some reports. Always fully naked for the deed. But this most recent time she was also sweating pretty good when we hadn't even been in bed 5 minutes and she had been outside in 40 degree weather just a few minutes earlier.
I've also seen a sketchy character hanging around that sure seems like a dope boy. She was with him while I was watching from down the street before my most recent visit.
Dope sick?Most likely on something as alot are on something or feeding a habit. Worse is when you, but not you in general are supporting her and his habit. There are others out there that are clean and just need financial help, as be raising kids or just regular bills in general. Perfer this type of the ones doing this for the next fix. Apperantly you are uncomfortable with this situation as you brought it out in the open. My advice is think with the big head and not the little one as you never know what can happen. Especially with some guy hanging around. Be safe.
I think most likely a burner phone WITH an app may be the solution. Apparently, the app thing to encode ifo may not be as secure as the hype says, see: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/04/nq_mobile_vault_the_popular_encryption_app_has_laughably_crackable_encryption.html. Of course, in the hobby we are not likely to run into NSA agents, however, we can't be too careful. If you have a reason to conceal your activities, then you may as well do it right. I'm not a code writer or anything like that, but I would do lots of research, then pick a the best app I could find. Of course, the best thing is to just memorize the really important stuff, or put numbers on one page in a little black book that you can swallow, LOL.
Cheech.
I think most likely a burner phone WITH an app may be the solution. Apparently, the app thing to encode ifo may not be as secure as the hype says, see: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/04/nq_mobile_vault_the_popular_encryption_app_has_laughably_crackable_encryption.html. Of course, in the hobby we are not likely to run into NSA agents, however, we can't be too careful. If you have a reason to conceal your activities, then you may as well do it right. I'm not a code writer or anything like that, but I would do lots of research, then pick a the best app I could find. Of course, the best thing is to just memorize the really important stuff, or put numbers on one page in a little black book that you can swallow, LOL.
Cheech.I do love having a smart phone to do my research and see who is available, but it does create a huge paper trail if that is how you contact people. I've switched to a burner but it has made it a lot harder to contact providers, though I feel safer. I'm not sure I'd trust an app to be completely private but I feel like it is safe enough for local mongering.
One other option is Textnow.com.
They have an app for Android and IOS, and you can monitor it from a web browser as well.
C.
Does anyone have experience with or opinion on this service? http://myaka.com/.
It seems reasonably priced and they seem to be privacy focused. Also does not require an app or second phone.
This is to repost a warning about a provider who has a health concern to hobbyists. She has post on our classifieds a long time ago, she posts on b / p under several different names, and SW's price hill, mcm, Colerain.
With all the new BP girls who are advertising and all the multiple ads, it's almost impossible to figure out who is who. Here are some of the prime "multiple" offenders.
Crissylynn 7.
Josijames 5.
Juicy 5.
Leighbby 5.
Storm 5.
Sweetieebee 4.
There are tons of threes and twos and this only includes the first two pages of names.
Good luck sorting through them.
This is to repost a warning about a provider who has a health concern to hobbyists. She has post on our classifieds a long time ago, she posts on b / p under several different names, and SW's price hill, mcm, Colerain.This should help the senior guys.
This should help the senior guys.This is right up Amon's alley.
Good lookin' out twisted.
With all the new BP girls who are advertising and all the multiple ads, it's almost impossible to figure out who is who. Here are some of the prime "multiple" offenders.
Crissylynn 7.
Josijames 5.
Juicy 5.
Leighbby 5.
Storm 5.
Sweetieebee 4.
There are tons of threes and twos and this only includes the first two pages of names.
Good luck sorting through them.Chrissy is real and has positive reviews. She's also active on this site.
Josi is real as well. Formerly Slyvie Amour.
RustyNailsYou
02-08-17, 00:30
With all the new BP girls who are advertising and all the multiple ads, it's almost impossible to figure out who is who. Here are some of the prime "multiple" offenders.
Crissylynn 7.
Josijames 5.
Juicy 5.
Leighbby 5.
Storm 5.
Sweetieebee 4.
There are tons of threes and twos and this only includes the first two pages of names.
Good luck sorting through them.I have spent time with Crissylynn, josijames and leighbby.
I have reviewed Crissylynn and leighbby recently.
Leighbby has ongonig phone problems and is trying to work them out. She has been my regular for some time.
CincyHobbist
02-09-17, 17:12
This is to repost a warning about a provider who has a health concern to hobbyists. She has post on our classifieds a long time ago, she posts on b / p under several different names, and SW's price hill, mcm, Colerain.That picture won't open up for me! Would you send me a pm with a link or info?
Simp4ebony
02-10-17, 11:36
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.I totally agree with you. I always think to myself how much I can save by not doing this, so I too can go awhile by using the good ole hand, but after awhile it's not the same and then I always come back. I guess it's similar to drugs, we're addicted to sex.
This is to repost a warning about a provider who has a health concern to hobbyists. She has post on our classifieds a long time ago, she posts on b / p under several different names, and SW's price hill, mcm, Colerain.Pictures of her.
UOnlyLiveOnce
02-10-17, 12:19
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.I know what you're talking about as far as "why watch porn when you can get the real thing". Online porn was enough for me back in the late 2000's when I first began indulging in it. I was not in the hobby at that time. But after the novelty wore off, I got to where I wanted a real live body and I eventually got one. In the last 5 years, I don't think I've gone longer than 4 months between visits to providers.
And in the last couple years, it's been all I can do to last even a month between providers. I saw a provider earlier this week, that was about 24 days since my previous visit to one, and I don't think I could have lasted a single day longer without that relief. Going cold turkey is unrealistic for me at this point, but I have to find some way to least go longer periods of time between dreams. Getting a mistress might help.
HuntLadys29
02-10-17, 17:17
I know what you're talking about as far as "why watch porn when you can get the real thing". Online porn was enough for me back in the late 2000's when I first began indulging in it. I was not in the hobby at that time. But after the novelty wore off, I got to where I wanted a real live body and I eventually got one. In the last 5 years, I don't think I've gone longer than 4 months between visits to providers.
And in the last couple years, it's been all I can do to last even a month between providers. I saw a provider earlier this week, that was about 24 days since my previous visit to one, and I don't think I could have lasted a single day longer without that relief. Going cold turkey is unrealistic for me at this point, but I have to find some way to least go longer periods of time between dreams. Getting a mistress might help.I'm the same way except I think I've got it worse I'd love to go a month or 2 without seeing a provider. Usually it's less than a week. I'm not rich I do ok but the money I spend on pussy could definitely go to something els or just save in the bank. If I had all the money I spent on pussy over the last 4 years I'd be pretty well off. There is one provider that I see more than any that I can't get enough of I see her at least once a month. If I could limit it to just her I'd be alright it's the other side girls that gets me. Maybe I need to go to sexaholics anonymous. I'll check into it as soon as I see this last lady. HL29.
Member #5522
02-10-17, 17:41
Charlie Sheen's quote says it best. I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave afterwards. I can get side pussy. I can even still get hot 20 year old side pussy. What I can't get is that side pussy without all the drama that comes with it.
I don't hobby nearly as much as I once did but when I do, I value the girls I see for allowing me to enjoy an hour or so together and then leave knowing I'm not going to go home and find the pet rabbit boiling in a pot on the stove.
I sympathize with you all as I too am addicted to sex. I think that it isn't the worst thing to have as my vice. There are far worse things I could be Jonesing for. Far worse.
DGD.
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.
We got to understand, we are not addicted to sex. What it is, is that, from an evolutionary standpoint, our number one driving urge is to procreate, to have sex. For that reason, sex is the single most pleasurable activity that man can indulge in. With all due respect, anyone who argues differently has been brainwashed by a church or someone else. That is why we men provide for women, put up with the bullshit, deal with kids, etc. So, once you are not hungry, and not freezing your ass off, you want to get laid. Its not an addiction, its a reward. And I can say, at 59 years old, that I can look back at my life and say, I wish I knew then what I know now, because I would have had so much more pussy that I did have that I don't want to even think about it. And, at 59, I can see the end, and it makes me sad because I still want to bed as many women as many times as I can.
So you young guys, watch your 6, learn the ropes, and ball the hell out of as many women as you can!
Cheech.
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.Currently going thru the same thing. Slowly watching funds deplete. Trying to limit myself to one lady a week.
Currently going thru the same thing. Slowly watching funds deplete. Trying to limit myself to one lady a week.I too have cut way back from my past few years. Both resources and ability have been impacted.
But every day the Forum appears in my inbox around 7:30, and most days I read every post. I don't consider it an addiction, I'm more than familiar with those.
The sex drive, both physically and sexualy and the desire for "the human touch" keeps driving my body and soul to the GFE providers (Annie Pants, Silk, and my masuese Velvet).
In all, I have grown very attached to these relationships, unlike the qv's or car date BJ's, and although I wouldn't go without the sexual experience, sex is not an addiction!
Stay safe, LM
LookingFun1
02-10-17, 23:21
Haven't seen velvet on here in awhile, anyone know if she's ok? Have seen a few times and always had fun feel free to pm.
Tickle Jay
02-11-17, 07:06
Yeah, I hear you. I haven't been as active as I would have liked. I look for girls with a specific skill set. The online girls understand better than some of the locals I have met, but I'm still hoping that one of my choices here will soon pay off. Be careful with the cam sites, tho. I had been visiting one regularly. Then one day I went to the bank (to withdraw some roses to go see Delicious Dawn) and discovered my CC had been hacked. Whoever it was got almost 500 in different increments. Lots of hassle to fill out the forms to get it back.
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.
OneBigRichard
02-11-17, 09:24
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.I understand what your saying. But for me its more like, I hate showing up to a dream and the girl in not very attractive, and I'm supposed to spend cash on someone I wouldn't even buy a drink at a club or bar. Because we gentelman have a different idea of what hot, sexy and beautiful is. I've spent a lot of time in strip club and had countless great times because I know what I'm getting or trying to. But it does suck when your walking out to the car and think, what a waste of time and money. Thank goodness for busty red, and a few utr that I have. OBR.
Haven't seen velvet on here in awhile, anyone know if she's ok? Have seen a few times and always had fun feel free to pm.She has an ad up. I just sent her a pm and hope to re-review her excellent skillset.
LM.
SilkyWetness
02-12-17, 20:33
All providers reading this contact me immediately was contacted by someone with verysick fantasy as a mother I was extremely sick and offended please help me stop this monster.
Maybe I need to go to sexaholics anonymous. I'll check into it as soon as I see this last lady. HL29.LOL there HL. It's always just one more.
GB.
Recently learned spouse is a lifelong hobbyist. Lookin for advice on how to cope. Leaving isn't an option.Something is missing in the relationship, mental or physical maybe both. Communicate without words and see what changes follow.
SilkyWetness
02-15-17, 19:34
I cannot stress enough how important reference checks are thru are designed to keep us safe and peace of mind do not just tell me the guy is ok just to get me off your back for instance I sent a reference check out to several providers and realized I had sent wrong number before I could correct it I get an ok hes good guy text wow that is dangerous and has led ne to not trusting said providers so please for us all if you have seen him be honest if not just say so.
FMichaels4533
02-16-17, 19:49
OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.
Member #5522
02-16-17, 20:13
I always give an hour for communication. She may of been in another appointment. Personally, I won't see a girl unless I'm first that day. Chances are slim if making that appointment that late in the afternoon.
I would call her on her bullshit though. If she didn't respond, there is no appointment. She may of thought she had your money in the bank already but by not saying yes, she has nothing to block you for.
To flip it completely, you have the money, you should block her and call her out. That's bad business.
OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.
OneBigRichard
02-16-17, 20:53
OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.I'm with you in this topic. I understand not getting back to someone because your busy or just need time off. Thats fine. But if you do make contact stay with it until a time is set. Don't disappear for an hour and think I'm going to wait, we don't always have lots of time to play. So our time is valuable too. We read every day of no shows, crickets when we arrive, plenty of wasting our time. So lady's you must understand this is about service, our experience starts with the first text or call we send. If it was easy set up or a pain in the ass? Is how most reviews start. And the last thing we want to do is show up pissed off because you made it diffaucult to see you. This is supposed to be easy, quick and convenient for we the customer. It's a service we look for.
If she's mad, she mad because she messed up, not you! $ lost, is money lost. It took me 5 hr to get to see someone Sunday morning, well 2:30 in the afternoon. Being stood up by Brooklyn Marie, I know I went bottom feeding, LOL but I went through all of my favorites and no respones until hours laters. And I should say thank to Lexi for making time for me. Bottom line to me is my time is as valuable as much as the Ben Franklins in my pocket. If your services lady's is good enough you will get neither. Be safe OBR.
OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.This doesn't require a providers input! You inquired about a 4 pm appointment, in order for that to work it is more than obvious that a reply is needed much sooner than 4 to allow for travel time. I call bullshit on this one and out her for acting so BS. You should have gotten a reply by 3:40 ish most likely to make it work. If you would be so kind as to PM me her name so I know not to waste my time with her. Thanks.
DickHerDown
02-16-17, 21:25
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.When a marriage goes bland, it's hard to get away from this game and I'll tell you why. I've had great regulars over the years, some which even enjoyed my company so much that they stopped charging me. I've had relationship with women who aren't providers but that never goes anywhere. Have you ever hooked up with a civilian girl and found her to be a really lame fuck? LOL. That's because not all women can fuck like a skilled escort. We are always looking for the next best thing is the way I see it. There's a certain rush or excitement when you open that door to see a brand new girl. I've paid a donation to see a new girl while I had a civilian girl texting me wanting dick. It's a strange game man, just know your not alone when you begin to think, "what the fuck am I doing"?
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-16-17, 21:58
OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.From what I read, you are totally in the right. You inquired about an appointment. You did not receive a reply to confirm anything. You did not know where to go. You waited a fair amount of time and then decided to seek other entertainment because lady #1 did not reply to your inquiry. You went and spent your discretionary income elsewhere.
A lot of these women think that their shit doesn't stink and that we should be honored to have sex with them. That philosophy works ONLY if they are having sex with us for FREE. They have the pussy, but WE have the money.
If what you had described had happened to me, I would have simply texted / said "You did not reply in a timely fashion so I thought you were occupied and I found someone who was available. " This is a business. Yes we all have providers that we also like personally or even are our friends, but they aren't our wives, girlfriends or Civie FWBs. We pay them for their attention. They don't have any claim on us.
The woman who FINALLY contacted you 20 minutes after the requested time deserves to be put on your personal Banned list. Her attitude shows immaturity and naivete as to how to gain customers and win regulars. If she had been understanding, maybe even a little flirtatious when you said you had found someone else, she would have garnered your interest and you MIGHT have called her again when you had the urge. All she did is alienate a customer.
Easton 1269
02-16-17, 22:59
This doesn't require a providers input! You inquired about a 4 pm appointment, in order for that to work it is more than obvious that a reply is needed much sooner than 4 to allow for travel time. I call bullshit on this one and out her for acting so BS. You should have gotten a reply by 3:40 ish most likely to make it work. If you would be so kind as to PM me her name so I know not to waste my time with her. Thanks.Consensus. If you aren't hearing from them 20 -30 minutes beforehand, forget it. It's called common courtesy, of which some people are obviously lacking.
John HandCock
02-16-17, 23:03
From what I read, you are totally in the right. You inquired about an appointment. You did not receive a reply to confirm anything. You did not know where to go. You waited a fair amount of time and then decided to seek other entertainment because lady #1 did not reply to your inquiry. You went and spent your discretionary income elsewhere.
A lot of these women think that their shit doesn't stink and that we should be honored to have sex with them. That philosophy works ONLY if they are having sex with us for FREE. They have the pussy, but WE have the money.
If what you had described had happened to me, I would have simply texted / said "You did not reply in a timely fashion so I thought you were occupied and I found someone who was available. " This is a business. Yes we all have providers that we also like personally or even are our friends, but they aren't our wives, girlfriends or Civie FWBs. We pay them for their attention. They don't have any claim on us.
The woman who FINALLY contacted you 20 minutes after the requested time deserves to be put on your personal Banned list. Her attitude shows immaturity and naivete as to how to gain customers and win regulars. If she had been understanding, maybe even a little flirtatious when you said you had found someone else, she would have garnered your interest and you MIGHT have called her again when you had the urge. All she did is alienate a customer.I agree with everything you said but I believe the power is in the pussy. Read the sexual addiction thread or how long can you go without the Pussy. Now we can chose where to spend the money but the forum is full of stories of providers who give poor service but even after 2-3 times ofbeing treated poorly mongers still give them another chance. Try fucking your money, not much satisfaction in that. You or I may not give a bad provider another chance but they really don't care for most part. Some monger will always pay them. Power is in the pussy, hence the term pussywhipped.
DeepBlue798
02-17-17, 09:35
Oh come on, you don't need a provider's input here. You don't need anybody's input here. You are senior enough to know that you were %110 right on this. Don't worry yourself too much when you are on the right side of the issue.
Like someone already said, you should be the one blocking her.
OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.
SilkyWetness
02-17-17, 15:34
Hey guys I'm not sure if you're aware but dawn is not in good health if you get a chance please reach out to her and let her know she's in your thoughts she's been having kidney problems and its hard to hear she's sick her and I have been friends for years so just keep her in your prayers get well dawn I'm rooting for you.
Oh come on, you don't need a provider's input here. You don't need anybody's input here. You are senior enough to know that you were %110 right on this. Don't worry yourself too much when you are on the right side of the issue.
Like someone already said, you should be the one blocking her.Yes dear, deep blue is correct, you as a senior member, you should know that this was Bullshit! That is like when I tell someone I am not available until an hour from now, hear nothing back until exactly and hour later, asking me if I am ready yet, and then the guy getting pissed when telling him I already booked someone else because of the lack of communication and assumption this guy made that because I said an hour, he did not need to confirm or set a thing up in stone with me!! She knows she is wrong hun! Screw it! We won't block you FMichaels?
Re: the girl not getting back to you and then getting pissed, she answered once, if she was too busy she wouldn't have answered. If she had time to answer once she had time to immediately communicate to you her availability or schedule, not leave you hanging. So she was wrong and that's all there is to that.
Re: the money we spend on providers, just think, as an individual you are not buying a house that you will lose if the relationship goes sour, you are not buying a wardrobe that goes out of style every 4 months, you are not putting 3 kids through college, you are not paying 20 - 30 thousand for a wedding. Even if you are spending 500 month, even more, its still less expensive than a wife and kids. Not to mention cars, insurance, and tons and tons of aggravation and worry. I have a daughter in the joint, you want to talk about aggravation and worry? Believe me, find a few reliable babes, have fun, make sure they know you value them, and your life will be so much easier.
As they say, if I only knew then what I know now...
Just sayin.
Cheech.
After driving to see Brandycincychk and leaving empty handed. I called Sexybaby1110, who texted back right away. We went over rates and services. Then when it was time to setup a meeting she went crickets. I tried numerous times to contact her to no avail and just wasted time. Frustrated I contacted Bri.
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/saturday-early-bird-special/34688536
Bri was easy to contact. She offered both incall and outcall. Upon learning my location, she suggested that I come to see her. I drove to western Cincinnati to a not so great neighborhood. She spoke with me on the phone until I was in her room. As soon as I entered her room I noticed an elderly black man in the living room. I was startled, but she was cute. If you like short and petite then she's your girl. She looks better than her pictures.
We walked into the bedroom.
It was a relatively nice place. A comforter on on a plastic sheet. She asked for the donation upfront. I told her no. She asked to place the donation on top of her TV. I told her no. I showed her the donation and told her that I was already nervous with the guy in the other room. She agreed to take the donation afterwards.
She is cute and and proceeded to BBBJ. As soon as that was done. She asked for the donation again stating "business is business". I told her I'd pay afterwards. Then we went to CG. I had the first POP. She stopped afterwards and DEMANDED that I pay now. I got frustrated, she refused to proceed to the second half of the hour stating once again that "business is business" I told her that I don't want this to feel like a business arrangement and then paid half.
We went to a few different position before finishing with BBJCIM. I paid the remainder as I always do. She then continued to talk about business being business. She just doesn't know how to make a guy feel special.
She is cute but all business. She never makes you fell like it is all about you! Her nagging never allowed me to relax. I might see her again but just for a quick visit under the condition I pay afterwards and she doesn't nag, and there is no one in the room.
She is really cute and I enjoyed the services. If she could work for EE for awhile I think her and her clients would benefit. Between the nagging and the guy in the room I think many abstain from this little cutie.I saw Bri last week. I agree very cute girl. Since she has been reviewed on here an is not known to be a rip off, I think you should have put the donation on the TV. I always place it in open site as I walk in. Again, it would be different if she wasn't reviewed.
Johnny.
I saw Bri last week. I agree very cute girl. Since she has been reviewed on here an is not known to be a rip off, I think you should have put the donation on the TV. I always place it in open site as I walk in. Again, it would be different if she wasn't reviewed.
Johnny.Just because a girl doesn't rip someone on Monday doesn't mean she won't do it on Tuesday or lower the threshold of service after payment. I told her I would pay her afterwards. She agreed and then continued to nag. Why should I be with a provider that does not agree to the terms of the deal? Her nagging ruined the session. I have other options if I want to be with someone that nags.
There was a man in the other room and I should have left then. Seriously, you were not there, and who are you to say what I should have done in that situation? I reported it as it happened you can do whatever you want in your adventures.
Just because a girl doesn't rip someone on Monday doesn't mean she won't do it on Tuesday or lower the threshold of service after payment. I told her I would pay her afterwards. She agreed and then continued to nag. Why should I be with a provider that does not agree to the terms of the deal? Her nagging ruined the session. I have other options if I want to be with someone that nags.
There was a man in the other room and I should have left then. Seriously, you were not there, and who are you to say what I should have done in that situation? I reported it as it happened you can do whatever you want in your adventures.You are right, I should not have suggested what you should do. I should have worded differently. Didn't mean to get you worked up, just discussing as this is a forum. Take care.
You are right, I should not have suggested what you should do. I should have worded differently. Didn't mean to get you worked up, just discussing as this is a forum. Take care.I appreciate your comment, and see how you might have done it differently.
HuntLadys29
02-20-17, 18:30
I saw Bri last week. I agree very cute girl. Since she has been reviewed on here an is not known to be a rip off, I think you should have put the donation on the TV. I always place it in open site as I walk in. Again, it would be different if she wasn't reviewed.
Johnny.It amazes me how people on this board try to tell someone how they should conduct their business. He didn't ask for your opinion, he was stating what happened and he did what he thought was right and by all accounts was probably the right thing. Everything in the forum says never give money up front and I might add he did say another person (male) was in the house. And just because she is reviewed doesn't mean she wouldn't rip somebody off if given a chance.HL29
It amazes me how people on this board try to tell someone how they should conduct their business. He didn't ask for your opinion, he was stating what happened and he did what he thought was right and by all accounts was probably the right thing. Everything in the forum says never give money up front and I might add he did say another person (male) was in the house. And just because she is reviewed doesn't mean she wouldn't rip somebody off if given a chance.HL29Dude. I apologized. I was out of line.
TenBucks22
02-20-17, 19:03
Johnny. You made it all good with your reply to Fatmando and he seemed good with it. Like many other topics on these forums, you have to take your face slaps by the high post count seniors who know all, be all, and participate in all conversations. You earned respect by your reply earlier.
Dude. I apologized. I was out of line.
Johnny. You made it all good with your reply to Fatmando and he seemed good with it. Like many other topics on these forums, you have to take your face slaps by the high post count seniors who know all, be all, and participate in all conversations. You earned respect by your reply earlier.Good Point TB. I would think my 12 years contributing on this forum would be worth something! Ha.
Back on topic. Another great review for Grace. She is a sweetie and has a nice safe residential incall.
HuntLadys29
02-21-17, 04:56
Dude. I apologized. I was out of line.I just voiced my opinion. HL29.
HuntLadys29
02-21-17, 05:04
Johnny. You made it all good with your reply to Fatmando and he seemed good with it. Like many other topics on these forums, you have to take your face slaps by the high post count seniors who know all, be all, and participate in all conversations. You earned respect by your reply earlier.Just voiced my opinion like you just voiced yours. And I also don't participate in all conversations. Apparently I had a valid point he did apologize to Fatmoando I just wrote my comment and didn't see his apology. But it seems like you are doing what you accused me of doing, participating in another persons conversation. Which is what you are allowed to do on this forum.HL29
FatDaddy3750
02-21-17, 11:23
I just voiced my opinion. HL29.I thought this thread was a free forum, I. E. , nothing is out of line. Much is stupid, ignorant and uninformed, but nothing is out of line.
TheGenteelMan
02-21-17, 11:34
My condolences to the ladies that have clearly let their A-game go in the toilet while simultaneously advertising, "... Tired of being disappointed?".
They are mentally incapable.
My condolences to the ladies that have clearly let their A-game go in the toilet while simultaneously advertising, "... Tired of being disappointed?".
They are mentally incapable.They don't know the half of it. But then when 'we' find the gems, it can be hard to top what has been found. Disappointed will happen (alot) in this pastime.
I tend to ignore the headlines, and then as other do. RESEARCH! .
GB.
Bocintibean
02-21-17, 12:34
I was watching this girl waiting for a couple of reviews. After she received a couple reviews she has not posted again.
Simp4ebony
02-24-17, 21:22
What's the normal "first contact" protocol? I usually send a text. But, given the number of times girls don't text me back, I think I must be doing it wrong. LOL.
Who's got advice??
HuntLadys29
02-24-17, 22:51
What's the normal "first contact" protocol? I usually send a text. But, given the number of times girls don't text me back, I think I must be doing it wrong. LOL.
Who's got advice??I always send a text that asks 1 question " Hello are you available ". I usually get a respond saying " yes I am ". That the and gets the ball rolling. I have very few no shows. I'm quick and to the point plus I've done lots of research to see what I'm getting as far as response time and service. HL29.
SinsinnatiToy
02-25-17, 00:24
I always send a text that asks 1 question " Hello are you available ". I usually get a respond saying " yes I am ". That the and gets the ball rolling. I have very few no shows. I'm quick and to the point plus I've done lots of research to see what I'm getting as far as response time and service. HL29.I send a text to girl requesting a date about 3 to 5 days in advance with request for ever how many hours I want on a given day at a specific time (I always do multi-hour dates) and if she tells me that she will schedule it then I book it and check back a couple of times to verify it is still a go, if girl tells me she is booked at that time then later on I will give her another try for another specific day, however if I get a response back telling me to contact her on the day requested then I say forget it if girl does not schedule in advance. I have less than a 10% crickets or no show once I have set up date by doing it this way.
HuntLadys29
02-25-17, 06:51
I send a text to girl requesting a date about 3 to 5 days in advance with request for ever how many hours I want on a given day at a specific time (I always do multi-hour dates) and if she tells me that she will schedule it then I book it and check back a couple of times to verify it is still a go, if girl tells me she is booked at that time then later on I will give her another try for another specific day, however if I get a response back telling me to contact her on the day requested then I say forget it if girl does not schedule in advance. I have less than a 10% crickets or no show once I have set up date by doing it this way.Do you plan your events with USASG girls only or are BP girls included? I plan events with ladies I've seen before because I know they will work out I hate no shows and crickets, most BP girls want you to text when ready most put it in their ads. I'm guessing it works better for you because you're wanting multiple hours and they don't want to screw up that kind of cash, me I'm 30 minutes or less. I'd be mad if I set up multiple hours and Mr. Happy did a disappearing act on me, that little motherf# has been known to act a fool on me. HL29.
Do you plan your events with USASG girls only or are BP girls included? I plan events with ladies I've seen before because I know they will work out I hate no shows and crickets, most BP girls want you to text when ready most put it in their ads. I'm guessing it works better for you because you're wanting multiple hours and they don't want to screw up that kind of cash, me I'm 30 minutes or less. I'd be mad if I set up multiple hours and Mr. Happy did a disappearing act on me, that little motherf# has been known to act a fool on me. HL29.I typically will send an initial text and allow for 1 hour response time. I assume that the provider may be engaged in a dream and I would not want a provider to interrupt my dream to reply to a text. Although, I did have one reply to a text in the middle of the deed, appropriately- I thrust just a bit harder at that precise moment.
I would agree that scheduled visits a few days in advance so far have been most productive.
John HandCock
02-25-17, 10:44
I typically will send an initial text and allow for 1 hour response time. I assume that the provider may be engaged in a dream and I would not want a provider to interrupt my dream to reply to a text. Although, I did have one reply to a text in the middle of the deed, appropriately- I thrust just a bit harder at that precise moment.
I would agree that scheduled visits a few days in advance so far have been most productive.Planning is the only way to go unless you just have to go. If I just have to go I send 3 text out and the first to reply gets my business. If planning I use p-411 or another service that escapes me at this moment. Anytime dealing with BP girls especially days in advance is usually a waste of time.
UOnlyLiveOnce
02-25-17, 13:58
What's the normal "first contact" protocol? I usually send a text. But, given the number of times girls don't text me back, I think I must be doing it wrong. LOL.
Who's got advice??I normally contact them the day I'm looking to dream. A fair number of them don't do well with planning ahead, and my schedule and work load changes a lot, so I prefer to contact the day of. Sometimes I'll call instead of text so I can get a better feel for what they're like if I don't know them.
Zcochran00
02-25-17, 14:25
I normally contact them the day I'm looking to dream. A fair number of them don't do well with planning ahead, and my schedule and work load changes a lot, so I prefer to contact the day of. Sometimes I'll call instead of text so I can get a better feel for what they're like if I don't know them.Ditto. Usually text a few hours ahead of time, generally on days when I have a chunk of time free. If it's someone I haven't seen before, I start by asking if it's "So-and-so from the USA site" to confirm I've got the number right, and once I get a response, ask if they're available later in the day.
CincyHobbist
02-25-17, 18:47
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/28019-Tired-of-fake-pics-and-fake-ads-.html
How the hell is a monger to call her when she lists no phone #? Come on ladies how hard is it to put a phone # in your ad?
SinsinnatiToy
02-25-17, 19:35
Actually HL29 I can count on one hand the number of USA girls I have seen. Mostly UTR, craigslist and BP girls. But I am totally different breed from most of you guys who want multiple times per week, my thing is 5 or six hour experiences just 2 or 3 times per month where I get a room with a big comfortable bed and fridge. Most USA girls and several BP girls want 150 to 200 an hour with no guarantees so I work with girls who are willing to work on a bonus system which provides incentives for them to work harder. I very rarely spend more than. 80 per hour for their time, but I provide a very clearly defined bonus system so a girl knows how to make money with this old man before date. Most girls wind up making 6 $ to 7 $ per 5 hour date and occasionally you find that gem that is skilled, talented and willing work her self to exhaustion and make 8 $ to 9 $. I think it is total BS to pay a girl full rate for what is not delivered. So I work with the girls willing to work and deliver for their money with bonuses which is why I have seen so few USA girls.
Do you plan your events with USASG girls only or are BP girls included? I plan events with ladies I've seen before because I know they will work out I hate no shows and crickets, most BP girls want you to text when ready most put it in their ads. I'm guessing it works better for you because you're wanting multiple hours and they don't want to screw up that kind of cash, me I'm 30 minutes or less. I'd be mad if I set up multiple hours and Mr. Happy did a disappearing act on me, that little motherf# has been known to act a fool on me. HL29.
Actually HL29 I can count on one hand the number of USA girls I have seen. Mostly UTR, craigslist and BP girls. But I am totally different breed from most of you guys who want multiple times per week, my thing is 5 or six hour experiences just 2 or 3 times per month where I get a room with a big comfortable bed and fridge. Most USA girls and several BP girls want 150 to 200 an hour with no guarantees so I work with girls who are willing to work on a bonus system which provides incentives for them to work harder. I very rarely spend more than. 80 per hour for their time, but I provide a very clearly defined bonus system so a girl knows how to make money with this old man before date. Most girls wind up making 6 $ to 7 $ per date and occasionally you find that gem that is skilled, talented and willing work her self to exhaustion and make 8 $ to 9 $. I think it is total BS to pay a girl full rate for what is not delivered. So I work with the girls willing to work and deliver for their money with bonuses which is why I have seen so few USA girls.Is that six to seven franklins and if so three times a month Can I work for you and not at this LOL.
ItsTimeToEat
02-25-17, 22:42
I have dealt with ones that require a multiple day text fest and then there are the ones that are all about the text-tap-go. I have a low tolerance for BS so I prefer the second method.
Hello Gentlemen,
Gracie May hear and it devastates me to say, that it looks like I will NOT be moving in the beautiful, historical, two bedroom apartment, above the bike trail and jewelry shop that I was so desperately and unbelievably excited about:(immensely because 13 feet ceilings, attached tp two buildings, over 100 years old, in an extremely nice residential area, for an even better low price, are so hard to come by that I really thought it was a god-sent! I was wrong: (and in anyway, I was forced to come back here to my Milford apartment, or actually never left here. But my things all did!! I technically only (well) I technically and legally am not even supposed to be here past 5 pm Yesterday and here it is today, almost 6 am And I'm still here pretty much stranded with nowhere to go and my mattress and dresser also stuck here!! I do have a storage unit but the person that was supposed to move in with has the key and will not drop it off to me purely on Dick reasons!? I could have left early yesterday evening and gotten a hotel o huh ç guy and gotten Hotel butts the person I was going to move in with told me that they wanted my dresser and mattress size bed and their apartment so I stayed here for eight hours waiting for them to call and pick it up which they never did!! I am just desperate to get out of here before the landlord comes this morning around 8:30 or 9 and changes the locks and sees I am still here! I have plenty of money to take care of myself I just not drive and the I and the I'd I use is expired Now by a few months so I do not know if I am able to register a hotel in my name?? I am completely helpless even though it makes my stomach turn to have to do this I have no choice. If anyone is possibly in the Milford area anytime before 9 o'clock or even 8:30 and coul anytime before 9 o'clock or even 8:30 and could possibly pick me up and give me a ride to Blue Ash where I can find a nice hotel for now then I would appreciate it in ways you will never understand and will completely make sure sure I show my appreciation!! I may also need and this is the tree part someone to put their name up for my room only if they do not accept my Ig be inspire igb expired which I have used an expired one before just not at this hotel or location! If anyone could help me then I would be forever indebted to you!! The true colors came out of my dear friend him I was moving in with and even though I was smart enough to get a storage unit to put o to put all my things away they have the key purposely I'm not giving it back and I let me sit here with absolutely nothing including clos including clothes my makeup absolutely nothing, well I sat here waiting for them to come pick up pieces of furniture that they said they wanted I am seriously just fucking sick of the way people treat one another I believe it's okay to treat one another and never getting let m and never getting let me live on stage and thinking a roommate over trumps the feeling of being Lonely sometimes. Again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text five one three fiv again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text five one three five fiv again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text five one three five five one nin again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text five one three five five one nin again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text 513-551-9574 because I just don't know who else to ask her what to do and I feel absolutely pathetic and I hope you guys don't look at me differently after this but all out on the table I could desperatel but all out on the table I could definitely use some help please and thank you.
Hello Gentlemen,
Gracie May hear and it devastates me to say, that it looks like I will NOT be moving in the beautiful, historical, two bedroom apartment, above the bike trail and jewelry shop that I was so desperately and unbelievably excited about:(immensely because 13 feet ceilings, attached tp two buildings, over 100 years old, in an extremely nice residential area, for an even better low price, are so hard to come by that I really thought it was a god-sent! I was wrong: (and in anyway, I was forced to come back here to my Milford apartment, or actually never left here. But my things all did!! I technically only (well) I technically and legally am not even supposed to be here past 5 pm Yesterday and here it is today, almost 6 am And I'm still here pretty much stranded with nowhere to go and my mattress and dresser also stuck here!! I do have a storage unit but the person that was supposed to move in with has the key and will not drop it off to me purely on Dick reasons!? I could have left early yesterday evening and gotten a hotel o huh guy and gotten Hotel butts the person I was going to move in with told me that they wanted my dresser and mattress size bed and their apartment so I stayed here for eight hours waiting for them to call and pick it up which they never did!! I am just desperate to get out of here before the landlord comes this morning around 8:30 or 9 and changes the locks and sees I am still here! I have plenty of money to take care of myself I just not drive and the I and the I'd I use is expired Now by a few months so I do not know if I am able to register a hotel in my name?? I am completely helpless even though it makes my stomach turn to have to do this I have no choice. If anyone is possibly in the Milford area anytime before 9 o'clock or even 8:30 and coul anytime before 9 o'clock or even 8:30 and could possibly pick me up and give me a ride to Blue Ash where I can find a nice hotel for now then I would appreciate it in ways you will never understand and will completely make sure sure I show my appreciation!! I may also need and this is the tree part someone to put their name up for my room only if they do not accept my Ig be inspire igb expired which I have used an expired one before just not at this hotel or location! If anyone could help me then I would be forever indebted to you!! The true colors came out of my dear friend him I was moving in with and even though I was smart enough to get a storage unit to put o to put all my things away they have the key purposely I'm not giving it back and I let me sit here with absolutely nothing including clos including clothes my makeup absolutely nothing, well I sat here waiting for them to come pick up pieces of furniture that they said they wanted I am seriously just fucking sick of the way people treat one another I believe it's okay to treat one another and never getting let m and never getting let me live on stage and thinking a roommate over trumps the feeling of being Lonely sometimes. Again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text five one three fiv again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text five one three five fiv again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text five one three five five one nin again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text five one three five five one nin again you're in the Milford area before 8:30 please call or text 513-551-9574 because I just don't know who else to ask her what to do and I feel absolutely pathetic and I hope you guys don't look at me differently after this but all out on the table I could desperatel but all out on the table I could definitely use some help please and thank you.Goodness boys I am so so sorry I talk too mmuch!! I just looked at this post and seen everything I wrote when all I was trying to do was ask for a freaking ride LOL!! Are you guys I want to take dr. Jays for helping me out today I don't know what I would have done without his help today and getting me out of the apartment and into my new / temporary home here over in Blue Ash off th off the Pfeiffer exit and one of the nice Extended Stays over here I cannot believe I have not gotten an Extended Stay before they're just like a little apartment I love it LOL well I guess I will stop myself before I do it all over again and start battling I just wanted to say thank you talk today for all that you do for me and thank you in the end everyone else who is had kind and encouraging words for me and thank you absolutely everyone you take the time to read my post because I write them and damn, I can't even sit still that long and read through all that LOL!! Have a great weekend you guys hit me up if you're bored and let's do some laughing LOL.
Smilesallround
02-26-17, 17:23
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/28019-Tired-of-fake-pics-and-fake-ads-.html
How the hell is a monger to call her when she lists no phone #? Come on ladies how hard is it to put a phone # in your ad?Given that the picture is from Pinterest, there's a good chance there is no lady to answer anyway.
So what exactly is the business model of these ads? Are they all bait-and-switch where a pimp sends whoever to the door hoping the monger just thinks with his little head? Or just an elaborate phishing scheme to get credit cards? Somebody sure spends a lot of time posting ads all over the country for what doesn't seem like a lot of payback opportunity. I'd love to see a well-researched study on who is behind these things and how much money they make.
CactusIago
02-27-17, 12:54
Goodness boys I am so so sorry I talk too mmuch!! I just looked at this post and seen everything I wrote when all I was trying to do was ask for a freaking ride LOL!! Are you guys I want to take dr. Jays for helping me out today I don't know what I would have done without his help today and getting me out of the apartment and into my new / temporary home here over in Blue Ash off th off the Pfeiffer exit and one of the nice Extended Stays over here I cannot believe I have not gotten an Extended Stay before they're just like a little apartment I love it LOL well I guess I will stop myself before I do it all over again and start battling I just wanted to say thank you talk today for all that you do for me and thank you in the end everyone else who is had kind and encouraging words for me and thank you absolutely everyone you take the time to read my post because I write them and damn, I can't even sit still that long and read through all that LOL!! Have a great weekend you guys hit me up if you're bored and let's do some laughing LOL.See--Someone needs to shove something into this woman's hand or mouth. STAT-Please miss-step away from the keyboard" .
Raider1687
02-27-17, 14:49
Given that the picture is from Pinterest, there's a good chance there is no lady to answer anyway.
So what exactly is the business model of these ads? Are they all bait-and-switch where a pimp sends whoever to the door hoping the monger just thinks with his little head? Or just an elaborate phishing scheme to get credit cards? Somebody sure spends a lot of time posting ads all over the country for what doesn't seem like a lot of payback opportunity. I'd love to see a well-researched study on who is behind these things and how much money they make.Somebody most not have told you yet. They put these ads up so guys on message boards that don't know what they are doing, will discuss the ads, the business model and an entire grand study on them. They want to see guys like you analyze them and see what you think of them, just like we do. I know I can't get enough of the inane discussion, I am sure the creators of the ads are the exact same way, but we just have to wait for the well-researched study to come out. Let the countdown begin.
When they think they're smart by using a lot of makeup.
TheGenteelMan
02-27-17, 17:03
When they think they're smart by using a lot of makeup.LOL! Too funny.
Member #5400
02-28-17, 14:18
I'm debating whether or not it's worth it to see them together, if anyone has an opinion they'd like to share. I still haven't seen Brookee, I wanted to but for some reason notels scare me off.
So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.
I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.
Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?
I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.Hate to admit how many times I walked away from a provider after the doors open or after leaving thinking,"that was a waste of money". After 10 years I have always keep this "hobby" to a minimum.
I am a car guy. I rather go in the garage climb in a nice car. Getting rid of the 3 way black BoxsterS for a Lexus RC. A nice car can get you pussy but then comes the bullshit. We all work too hard for our money. I always have spent from the top and not the bottom. I have had several providers tell me guys tell them they haven't paid the mortgage. You got "your" priorities in line and not mine do what you want.
I don't think about all the women I been with. I think about all the I could have been with.
DickHerDown
02-28-17, 23:53
I'm debating whether or not it's worth it to see them together, if anyone has an opinion they'd like to share. I still haven't seen Brookee, I wanted to but for some reason notels scare me off.I don't see a girl for more than 30 minutes and I don't do multiple pops. So for me, a duo just isn't worth it unless I'm getting a great deal. I've seen both providers and I like Brooke much better. She's more personable, prettier face and super hot country accent.
I'm debating whether or not it's worth it to see them together, if anyone has an opinion they'd like to share. I still haven't seen Brookee, I wanted to but for some reason notels scare me off.At least one person has done the duo and reviewed it a several months back. That's a dream duo there but just not in my budget. They are both highly skilled. Can't go wrong with either.
Member #5400
03-01-17, 00:38
I don't see a girl for more than 30 minutes and I don't do multiple pops. So for me, a duo just isn't worth it unless I'm getting a great deal. I've seen both providers and I like Brooke much better. She's more personable, prettier face and super hot country accent.Thanks, I'm basically the same, I guess it's just the idea of two hot girls at one time, but it does me know good if I'm not there long enough to enjoy them both LOL. I've seen Red and really had a nice time with her, so I'll definitely make it out to see Brooke asap. Thanks again.
HighLifeMan
03-01-17, 11:25
Hello there mongers I just want to let people know that I posted on bri over a week ago. She is going by another name now. And Monday I got a text messege from her it was in a group text me and like 4 other mongers got it. Then yesterday I get a call from her out of the blues I don't like that at all. I do not like when providers do that. I am glad my number is not attached to me I had to block her. You just never know whos on the other end for real sometimes. I would maybe still see her but with this happing I think I'm moving on. Well have a safe one out there mongers.
TheGenteelMan
03-02-17, 09:21
Are any ladies up before Noon any day of the week!? Geesh!
Rant over.
TGM
Velvet Rayne
03-02-17, 09:24
Are any ladies up before Noon any day of the week!? Geesh!
Rant over.
TGMUp most days except Sunday between 6 am and 7 am.
Xoxo.
ItsTimeToEat
03-02-17, 19:09
A girl that had became my regular is in the process of burning me. Basically I paid up front with the promise of a visit later that afternoon and then radio silence. I have seen her for years. My question is how long should I wait to put up the review?
A girl that had became my regular is in the process of burning me. Basically I paid up front with the promise of a visit later that afternoon and then radio silence. I have seen her for years. My question is how long should I wait to put up the review?I'd send her a text, telling her you're giving a reasonable time period (say a day) to respond, and that if she doesn't you'll announce the details. Finis.
The good dr.
A girl that had became my regular is in the process of burning me. Basically I paid up front with the promise of a visit later that afternoon and then radio silence. I have seen her for years. My question is how long should I wait to put up the review?If she's screwing you over, it's not like it will get worse. I imagine you've warned her. Just do it. What would you lose?
MuffDiverDan
03-02-17, 20:01
A girl that had became my regular is in the process of burning me. Basically I paid up front with the promise of a visit later that afternoon and then radio silence. I have seen her for years. My question is how long should I wait to put up the review?They all have phone problems, I'd give her two days max, and that would give her the benefit of the doubt, then I'd post in the Rip Off Reports, so I and other monger's don't go near her.
ItsTimeToEat
03-02-17, 20:15
I'll give her until tomorrow afternoon and then I'll post how much of a dumbass I am. There is a silver lining to the story though. I got a text from an ex (like highschool era ex) and the second photo was of her boobs so the money I'll save on her will offset the funds I lost to my old ATF. When life gives you lemons make.
And remember kids: don't pay until after you play!
I was very disturbed to read the ripoff alert on Crissee. There are few providers I would have recommended based solely on reviews. But I guess this proves that once the monkey is on their back, stellar reputations built over years are not worth that one hit.
She traded her good standing and the guaranteed business that brings, for nothing.
I was very disturbed to read the ripoff alert on Crissee. There are few providers I would have recommended based solely on reviews. But I guess this proves that once the monkey is on their back, stellar reputations built over years are not worth that one hit.
She traded her good standing and the guaranteed business that brings, for nothing.Addendum: Seems Crissee finally called (after he posted a ripoff alert; make with that what you wish) and made it right.
CrissyLynn2015
03-04-17, 12:56
Hey guys! Been a long while since I have wrote but I've been very busy with the kiddos lately but I have a question? I'm sure most of you k ow that when us providers post our information and number. A bunch of other sites take the info and put it on they're site. What I don't like is that stupid site that always says one of us or all of us is affiliated with the police and shows all of our charges even of prostitution is not on there. Then when a guy Google's your number boom site pops up and freaks them out thinking your a cop. A man I have even seen before didn't see me because of this site. I was pretty upset that he even thought that because he has seen me before and told him to not bother txting or calling me again, specially since he has seen me recently and should know better. He just left me hanging. I told others no because I thought he was coming then I get an email this morning telling me about he found me on the site smh. How can I get my info off them sites!. I could understand how someone might get the wrong idea but not someone I have already met with. Just grrrr LOL hope everyone is having a great new year and hopefully they post my question because I'm really bothered by it!
A girl that had became my regular is in the process of burning me. Basically I paid up front with the promise of a visit later that afternoon and then radio silence. I have seen her for years. My question is how long should I wait to put up the review?I'm sorry but I really believe that if you give any, and I mean any, provider money with no service provided you should consider that money a gift. You are shocked that she didn't provide the service later? Really? These girls don't want to do this for a living. Vast majority do it to support a drug habit. Others for a guy and a very very few as a simple occupation. Yeah ok maybe you got away with it in the past by prepaying for future services. You were lucky. This isn't a business. These girls are prostitutes and we are johns. Yeah we call them "providers" and us "clients" like its a legit business with guidelines and regulations and laws. Yes we should treat them with respect and expect the same. But its still an underground illegal "business" that yes, has street rules. But giving money in advance for future services is just dumb. The only thing more dumb is expecting that service to happen. It worked in the past? Lucky.
DrBnode 73
03-04-17, 16:12
I've been following the recent posts and reviews about Crissee with some alarm. I feel I owe it to the forum and my fellow mongers to post a warning given her history.
Do those of you who see her know about the situation from last summer with her? There was quite a public "interaction" with her and some associates that may warrant your attention. If you are seeing Crissee without this knowledge, you are taking quite a chance in my opinion.
Do yourselves a favor and look back through the post history to last summer. Forum rules state that I am not to post certain kinds of online reports. I really liked Crissee and saw her often over the last few years but would not go near her today due to the those events. Now that I am seeing reports about questionable behavior in forum posts for the last few days, I can only think she's going back downhill again and a monger could get caught up in an unfortunate mess.
I realize this might be an overreaction and I only wish Crissee the best. She's a great and fun person if she's clear-headed. But I am not naive and even if some of you guys think she's turned it around, I've been there done that. My gut tells me things are awry again.
Again, this is my opinion and rant. And it's my personal rule to stay away from providers who have proven records associated with substances. You might feel ok with that risk. But keep your eyes and ears open, and your sixth sense sharp. Safety first, always safety first!
Hey guys! Been a long while since I have wrote but I've been very busy with the kiddos lately but I have a question? I'm sure most of you k ow that when us providers post our information and number. A bunch of other sites take the info and put it on they're site. What I don't like is that stupid site that always says one of us or all of us is affiliated with the police and shows all of our charges even of prostitution is not on there. Then when a guy Google's your number boom site pops up...How can I get my info off them sites!. Bottom line is, you can't. These sites trawl places like Backpage for ads, and inject it into their own site using a template to make it seem like it's an "Alert". It isn't. You can contact the site, but they will only remove it if you pay them an "administrative fee" ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. That's how they make their money; "they" are normally people in Europe, Asia, or Africa.
If you are pissed off, remember that the source of their information is your own ad that you posted at one time or another. The rule of the internet is that once you post, it's there, forever, in one form or another. It sucks, but it's just another aspect of the business.
Those sites will turn some people off. But those guys who have been around a bit know the real deal and ignore the scare tactics and USE the sites as just another source of ads. You might actually get a customer from one of those sites so there is that.
Good luck.
SilkyWetness
03-04-17, 20:13
I want to make this perfectly crystal clear if a provider calls or ask me for a reference I always do my nest to answrr to the best of my knowledge a few days ago I accidentally hit the wrong button and deleted everyone of my contacts I'm also a full time student and work a 3rd shift job.
I have limited time in my day and if given a reference I always check it now understand not every provider will reply that is not my fault but for the one particular provider feels the need to pass bad things about me saying I'm a liar blah blah blah grow upand get a life andkeep my name out of your mouth I'm really a nice person but for christ sake you obviously know nothing about me or youd know how full of crap you soundim tired of always having to defend myself to some people of I do something you disagree with then say your peace and move the hell on don't continue to sit and question me I don't have time for it.
IslandDreams
03-05-17, 09:59
I've been following the recent posts and reviews about Crissee with some alarm. I feel I owe it to the forum and my fellow mongers to post a warning given her history.
Do those of you who see her know about the situation from last summer with her? There was quite a public "interaction" with her and some associates that may warrant your attention. If you are seeing Crissee without this knowledge, you are taking quite a chance in my opinion.
Do yourselves a favor and look back through the post history to last summer. Forum rules state that I am not to post certain kinds of online reports. I really liked Crissee and saw her often over the last few years but would not go near her today due to the those events. Now that I am seeing reports about questionable behavior in forum posts for the last few days, I can only think she's going back downhill again and a monger could get caught up in an unfortunate mess.
I realize this might be an overreaction and I only wish Crissee the best. She's a great and fun person if she's clear-headed. But I am not naive and even if some of you guys think she's turned it around, I've been there done that. My gut tells me things are awry again.
Again, this is my opinion and rant. And it's my personal rule to stay away from providers who have proven records associated with substances. You might feel ok with that risk. But keep your eyes and ears open, and your sixth sense sharp. Safety first, always safety first!When I met her in 2012 she was snorting 6 grams of H a day, the recent arrest over the summer was also for the the same substance. She has been a user for over 5 years now and gets arrested over and over again for it. There were some well founded information a few years ago that she was working for LE.
Now I will say first and foremost I continued to see her over the years because I knew the risks and felt I could minimize them. Furthermore, Crissee is not doing anything more than most of the girls we see that are substance abuse users. Furthermore girls that are busted are foolish not to work for LE if it gets them a break, and all girls that are users need to be paid after a session not before a session and never advanced money.
That being said, I finally quit seeing her because she had the attitude that she was invincible and therefore she took greater chances. Her perspective was, what the hell if I am busted I spend a few days in jail get a fine and I m back at it. Of course for those of that are mongers, we don't want any publicity at all.
The situation this summer shows how bold they had become and how many risks they felt they could get away with, and in the end, Crissee is back on the street doing what she does, and her sisters husband is out a 23 year career.
I don't believe that she worries about how the risks affect others other than herself. That's simply too risky for many of us.
But I will say the same thing KC did, she is very talented, very charming, and if you pin her down she will delver the goods. The hobby we are in is risky, it is up to us to figure out how to minimize the risks with any provider we see.
But if she is telling you she is off the stuff and clean, its not the truth, believing Crissee will change her personal habits is a pipe dream.
There are many talented girls in this area, but not all of them feel they are above the law because of their connections, personally I am more interested in girls that are as concerned about the risks as I am and are as careful as I am. I don't want my wife and kids or my employer to question my judgement because I was stopped in a car with Crissee with H on her.
That's my rant, do what you want but know the facts before you pull the pin with her.
Safety first always safety first.
This is Manda, from Wednesday. Like most Glockgirls, she swallows.
CrissyLynn2015
03-05-17, 16:25
Bottom line is, you can't. These sites trawl places like Backpage for ads, and inject it into their own site using a template to make it seem like it's an "Alert". It isn't. You can contact the site, but they will only remove it if you pay them an "administrative fee" ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. That's how they make their money; "they" are normally people in Europe, Asia, or Africa.
If you are pissed off, remember that the source of their information is your own ad that you posted at one time or another. The rule of the internet is that once you post, it's there, forever, in one form or another. It sucks, but it's just another aspect of the business.
Those sites will turn some people off. But those guys who have been around a bit know the real deal and ignore the scare tactics and USE the sites as just another source of ads. You might actually get a customer from one of those sites so there is that.
Good luck.Yes, I have personally dealt with them more than just once! Drives me crazy because for newer friends that join our hobby get totally sketched out by them. Once things are explained and understood after, they usually feel horrible and want to make it up to the woman he stood up! . Just wish there was an easier way to go about removing the information. But your correct when you say, once you post it, it's posted forever LOL. Hope everyone has had a lovely weekend and can't wait to see my friends this week xoxo.
ItsTimeToEat
03-05-17, 16:36
Thank you for helping us in the 513 as we deal with our trials and tribulations.
Sir LanceLicksalot
03-05-17, 22:11
This is Manda, from Wednesday. Like most Glockgirls, she swallows.G-Man,
You are a Hobby God. I want to publicly thank you for the recommendations for my trip to Memphis this past Fall. Though none panned out, the leads were appreciated.
I found Memphis to be an Outcall Desert. I was traveling with coworkers and did not have the rental car keys, so Incall was a problem. I sent PMs to about 8 ladies and no replies. WTF! I guess my Yankee Dollars aren't good enough.
Keep up the great photo work, I am jealous.
BTBear.
BigGusDickUs55
03-05-17, 22:17
Does your fav girl have a crown tattoo? If she does she is more than likely the property of a pimp or a organized crime syndicate. With the proliferation of tattoos in todays society the crown has remained a clear symbol of someone marking their property. A clear warning sign of what you might really be dealing with or associated with. Pay attention.
G-Man,
You are a Hobby God. I want to publicly thank you for the recommendations for my trip to Memphis this past Fall. Though none panned out, the leads were appreciated.
I found Memphis to be an Outcall Desert. I was traveling with coworkers and did not have the rental car keys, so Incall was a problem. I sent PMs to about 8 ladies and no replies. WTF! I guess my Yankee Dollars aren't good enough.
Keep up the great photo work, I am jealous.
BTBear.Man, you should have let me know. I would have had you taken care of. Nicole would have picked you up and taken to Albert's Cabins. Not the Ritz exactly but you would have been happy. Remember you Cincy guys always have a friend in Memphis.
TheGenteelMan
03-06-17, 14:13
Does your fav girl have a crown tattoo? If she does she is more than likely the property of a pimp or a organized crime syndicate. With the proliferation of tattoos in todays society the crown has remained a clear symbol of someone marking their property. A clear warning sign of what you might really be dealing with or associated with. Pay attention.I'm anticipating this one would fit your definition...
BigGusDickUs55
03-06-17, 22:42
That tattoo fits the scenario. There are some girls that get a crown tattoo of their own choice that fits in with the whole princess / queen complex that usually has some type of writing with the word princess / queen or something to that effect as part of the tattoo. I personally have met 5 girls with a crown tattoo and all were in the Sharonville, Springdale and areas North of Cincy. I personally avoid seeing providers in that area and avoid providers with the crown tattoo. Some providers also have a figure of 8 tattoo or even a small figure 8 brand. Yes branded like cattle on the neck in a spot that does not show unless you know what to look for. I was with a provider that has a small 1/4 inch 8 tattooed behind her ear and I ask her about it and she said it was a stupid mistake and it meant nothing. When I was leaving that appointment I was trailed by 2 AA men and I used a figure 8 escape route around hotel buildings on them and ended up on their 6 before I peeled off and left the scene. This is just a heads up for everyone and is not intended to tarnish the rep of any princess out there that my have a crown tattoo.
I'm anticipating this one would fit your definition...
I'm sorry but I really believe that if you give any, and I mean any, provider money with no service provided you should consider that money a gift. You are shocked that she didn't provide the service later? Really? These girls don't want to do this for a living. Vast majority do it to support a drug habit. Others for a guy and a very very few as a simple occupation. Yeah ok maybe you got away with it in the past by prepaying for future services. You were lucky. This isn't a business. These girls are prostitutes and we are johns. Yeah we call them "providers" and us "clients" like its a legit business with guidelines and regulations and laws. Yes we should treat them with respect and expect the same. But its still an underground illegal "business" that yes, has street rules. But giving money in advance for future services is just dumb. The only thing more dumb is expecting that service to happen. It worked in the past? Lucky.Yeah, I think you can write that off as charitable donation. The upside she knows better to ask you again and there will come a day when she will truly need that favor and will have few, if any places to turn towards in her hour of need. (No pun intended).
I want to make this perfectly crystal clear if a provider calls or ask me for a reference I always do my nest to answrr to the best of my knowledge a few days ago I accidentally hit the wrong button and deleted everyone of my contacts I'm also a full time student and work a 3rd shift job.Sorry to hear that your Phone dumped your contacts.
GB.
Well I went a whole year with no drama or bull crap then let one little person in my life and the flood Poor's in. So let me clear everything up for you guys. No I do not have a dope boy boyfriend and all of you that knows me knows I despise that stuff and would never ever date someone that sells it. Next- In this business no one can really have a boyfriend considering the hobby unless you are so low you try to stick your claws in every client you see. Also I do not book for brook anymore she has 3 clients booking and screening for her so please do not contact me to get a hold of her. I do not talk to her anymore. As for anything else I'm the same person I've always been. Ran myself a little thin helping someone and my mother's needs so I neglected some of my favorites and some new people but now I am back and ready to go back to normal. With that being said all the crap drama you crazies are pulling from the drama star please keep it away from me. I get it it always has to be someone after the little baby but pick someone else please. Sorry for my drama post I can't stand it and hate it but I refuse to let my name be dragged down because someone else is a drama queen. Toddles guys, safe hunting's and hope to see you soon. If you have any questions message me!! Kiss kiss kiss.
I have asked this before with no replies, so maybe better luck on this forum. I am not new to the hobby; just been away for awhile. I used to have another screen name with reviews. So, being out of the hobby for a year and only seeing one girl last year who is no longer on here; how can I use references? The 1st girl I visited was Remy, if any one remembers her. She never asked for references. The 2nd girl was Nati, she didn't either. The 3rd didn't either. I think the 5th finally did but I'm pretty sure she didn't even check them out she just asked and said come on over. I did ask her how some of these girls verify references. She said they keep your number and will put a note by your number. So when they get a text they can communicate back. It just never seemed like a method that would always work, because those references would have to be girls that she communicates with, because if not what if the references never hit her back to verify, or what if they say something bad just cause they want you calling them. All of this isn't even my problem or question. My question is; being out of the hobby for so long and lets say all my references are willing to text back with the ok. None of them are currently listed, and now I have a new number. So all I can do is tell them some references and they can do what girls in the past have done; just take me on my word that I have seen them. Could I get some opinions on this. And maybe some some girls who arent so reference heavy; that would most likey be ok with me telling them 5 names that I have seen. I think Crissy is still out there but like I said, I have a new number, and how many girls are going to keep my number for 3 years listed in their phone, its and old number anyway. I still don't know how this reference thing works. I mean I do, I just don't see all the girls texting right back like "yea, he cool girl" LOL. I can see some not getting back at, unless its someone they communicate with regularly. Plus, couldn't they just tell them "no, don't see him" in hopes that he will contact them instead. ADVICE PLEASE.
TheGenteelMan
03-08-17, 12:44
Well I went a whole year with no drama or bull crap then let one little person in my life and the flood Poor's in. So let me clear everything up for you guys. No I do not have a dope boy boyfriend and all of you that knows me knows I despise that stuff and would never ever date someone that sells it. Next- In this business no one can really have a boyfriend considering the hobby unless you are so low you try to stick your claws in every client you see. Also I do not book for brook anymore she has 3 clients booking and screening for her so please do not contact me to get a hold of her. ... Kiss kiss kiss.Brook has other booking for her??? Now I see why she is never available LOL. In the past it was easy and we always got something set up. Lately, it's been four misses in a row. Totally makes sense now. Shame on them for cock blocking me.
TGM
TheGenteelMan
03-08-17, 12:53
For those of you that PM'd me over the last day or so; like an idiot I deleted your PM cleaning up my inbox in order to send / receive.
My apologies. Please resend.
Thanks.
TGM
ADVICE PLEASE.I sent you a PM.
NotYourAverage
03-08-17, 17:57
Brook has other booking for her??? Now I see why she is never available LOL. In the past it was easy and we always got something set up. Lately, it's been four misses in a row. Totally makes sense now. Shame on them for cock blocking me.
TGMThat would explain a lot! I am not sure I care for the idea of clients doing the screening. Maybe leaving EE for greener pastures has not led her to the Garden of Eden she was seeking.
SoloBrookee17
03-08-17, 18:43
A few guys made mention of the post about 3 mongers handling my calls and so forth so I wanted to respond. I Did work with Busty Red for a hole and I enjoyed our time together. She is a gorgeous girl with a rockin body and I would recommend her to any of you. Unfortunately someone just gave her some wrong information and she posted about me. I don't blame her, just the rumor mill. Busty had some stuff going on as she mentioned so I thought I would try it on my own. I reached out to a monger and he showed me all the ways that I could verify. We spent an entire night going over this and that and I fully skilled now haha. This way, I can keep both you and I safe at all times. This is really all it was, just a friend helping me out, he doesn't even live in Cincy. Thank you all.
Raider1687
03-08-17, 21:15
That would explain a lot! I am not sure I care for the idea of clients doing the screening. Maybe leaving EE for greener pastures has not led her to the Garden of Eden she was seeking.Fake news, dude. TGM is lost, doesn't know the story at all.
This is kinda a bullshit rant, but it kills me when a provider texts and begs for a session as though they have no money, which maybe the case. But to then try to negotiate the price is bs. Also it is bs to text asking for a session saying how they will be homeless, not eating, water going to be shut off (called her out on this one as her building has water / heat included in rent). The reasons keep coming. What I also wanted to say but didn't want to be to blunt and piss her off as I do like her company when I am in mood to see her, but there are so many good providers out there and alot of different varieties. This is the reason I am single. I by choice perfer and choose which lady I would like to spend my time and money with. It sucks when a provider sees a person that they have seen muliple times and thinks this is now my sugardaddy, paycheck. Etc. Sorry for the rant, but it gets old hearing the same bullshit. Also, it is not cool to send text message offering discounts, I would perfer better quality instead. This would keep it more appealing and interested. Been along time since I spent time with a provider and after I left the pure thought of our time together got me hard and wanting to visit as quick as possible. Some of them as of late leave me thinking I should have saved my money and just took care of my business myself. I guess I keep going at this hoping to find the perfect one. If by chance and you know who you are and read this. Make the experience additive. And no upselling! Thanks.
This is kinda a bullshit rant, but it kills me when a provider texts and begs for a session as though they have no money, which maybe the case. But to then try to negotiate the price is bs. Also it is bs to text asking for a session saying how they will be homeless, not eating, water going to be shut off (called her out on this one as her building has water / heat included in rent). The reasons keep coming. What I also wanted to say but didn't want to be to blunt and piss her off as I do like her company when I am in mood to see her, but there are so many good providers out there and alot of different varieties. This is the reason I am single. I by choice perfer and choose which lady I would like to spend my time and money with. It sucks when a provider sees a person that they have seen muliple times and thinks this is now my sugardaddy, paycheck. Etc. Sorry for the rant, but it gets old hearing the same bullshit. Also, it is not cool to send text message offering discounts, I would perfer better quality instead. This would keep it more appealing and interested. Been along time since I spent time with a provider and after I left the pure thought of our time together got me hard and wanting to visit as quick as possible. Some of them as of late leave me thinking I should have saved my money and just took care of my business myself. I guess I keep going at this hoping to find the perfect one. If by chance and you know who you are and read this. Make the experience additive. And no upselling! Thanks.I totally understand your thoughts and position. I actually saw a provider on two different occasions and we had a nice time, but it was not like we were in some profound relationship. She had the audacity to text me and offered a discount because she had to pay her room bill. When I didn't immediately answer the text, she started calling my phone while I'm in a meeting. I'm looking at the number and wondering WTF.
I was slightly taken aback because I figured she had the game twisted, the rules of engagement screwed up, and that I had a Sugar Daddy stamp on my forehead. I think if she had just come straight out and asked for a favor, I probably would have assisted, but buttering me up with BS like, she knows that she is my ATF. I never said that!
Needless to say. That number was deleted.
Go see Chrissy and post a review, then go see someone else and post a review. No one can reach anyone, especially for refs. Everyone's number changes.
Just start over and give them your USASG name to check your reviews.
I have asked this before with no replies, so maybe better luck on this forum. I am not new to the hobby; just been away for awhile. I used to have another screen name with reviews. So, being out of the hobby for a year and only seeing one girl last year who is no longer on here; how can I use references? The 1st girl I visited was Remy, if any one remembers her. She never asked for references. The 2nd girl was Nati, she didn't either. The 3rd didn't either. I think the 5th finally did but I'm pretty sure she didn't even check them out she just asked and said come on over. I did ask her how some of these girls verify references. She said they keep your number and will put a note by your number. So when they get a text they can communicate back. It just never seemed like a method that would always work, because those references would have to be girls that she communicates with, because if not what if the references never hit her back to verify, or what if they say something bad just cause they want you calling them. All of this isn't even my problem or question. My question is; being out of the hobby for so long and lets say all my references are willing to text back with the ok. None of them are currently listed, and now I have a new number. So all I can do is tell them some references and they can do what girls in the past have done; just take me on my word that I have seen them. Could I get some opinions on this. And maybe some some girls who arent so reference heavy; that would most likey be ok with me telling them 5 names that I have seen. I think Crissy is still out there but like I said, I have a new number, and how many girls are going to keep my number for 3 years listed in their phone, its and old number anyway. I still don't know how this reference thing works. I mean I do, I just don't see all the girls texting right back like "yea, he cool girl" LOL. I can see some not getting back at, unless its someone they communicate with regularly. Plus, couldn't they just tell them "no, don't see him" in hopes that he will contact them instead. ADVICE PLEASE.
Okay- I am new to this, yes. But can someone please help. Every time I look for anyone on all the sites there is always about 6 super hot chicks that no one mentions at all. Is this just not brought up bc you all know they are fake? Would someone be willing to help me get a freaking hot chick- For sure- and know when to swipe right?
Haha Thanks- I really appreciate it and work in the public field of Dayton-so I never pull the trigger cause I have so much to lose.
I have a super cute GF that's hotter than 90% of these chicks. But I am a bit of a adventurist if you know what I mean.
Any help guys- thank you so much!
Slim Shady69
03-09-17, 14:34
Okay- I am new to this, yes. But can someone please help. Every time I look for anyone on all the sites there is always about 6 super hot chicks that no one mentions at all. Is this just not brought up bc you all know they are fake? Would someone be willing to help me get a freaking hot chick- For sure- and know when to swipe right?
Haha Thanks- I really appreciate it and work in the public field of Dayton-so I never pull the trigger cause I have so much to lose.
I have a super cute GF that's hotter than 90% of these chicks. But I am a bit of a adventurist if you know what I mean.
Any help guys- thank you so much!I am new to this also but have spent a lot of time rtff and searching. You have to search the forum, google phone numbers and search images with tineye or google. Bottom line is yes most of the ads you reference are TGTBT. If safety is your concern, I suggest you rtff and stick to girls who have a history of good reviews. Check out the girls on USA. Alternatively, you can toftt and share the experience on this board. Good luck. SS.
DickHerDown
03-09-17, 15:40
Okay- I am new to this, yes. But can someone please help. Every time I look for anyone on all the sites there is always about 6 super hot chicks that no one mentions at all. Is this just not brought up bc you all know they are fake? Would someone be willing to help me get a freaking hot chick- For sure- and know when to swipe right?
Haha Thanks- I really appreciate it and work in the public field of Dayton-so I never pull the trigger cause I have so much to lose.
I have a super cute GF that's hotter than 90% of these chicks. But I am a bit of a adventurist if you know what I mean.
Any help guys- thank you so much!Go with a girl that you see is highly reviewed. This site is flooded with fakes now that backpage went down. Unfortunately, most of the real ones aren't very hot IMO. The hot ones come and go. I've banged some awesome chicks on this site. Think of it like the stock market. The real stock market is up, USA stock is down.
CactusIago
03-09-17, 17:25
With the recent dustup on here between BR and Brookee I just wanted to highlight a couple of things that seem to have been lost.
The ladies on here are first and foremost, businesswomen; independent contractors, or even employed by someone. The hobbyists on here need to recognize that fact. Their reputations, ARE the currency of the realm around here for every provider. There are ladies that are unreliable, lay there like a dead fish, don; t kiss, do kiss, give the best service ever, or the worst--The reviews we give should and will highlight these FACTS about your particular experience. The problem that I want to address is when we deviate from these things in a cupla ways--1) As consumers or providers on this site, no one should EVER traffic in rumor--If you saw a needle or a track mark, you should report EXACTLY that, If her service isn't up to par, you should report EXACTLY that, If she is out of it, report it. BUT, don't take whatever research you have done, and combine it with a misperceived slight, to jump to conclusions. BR and Brookee have been wonderful, mostly reliable providers on here--report they are hard to get a hold of, don; t bring in rumor and innuendo about dope boy boyfriends and multiple mongers screening--Give them the credit their reputations have earned--And call them out when they slip up. 2) Negotiating--and this is more for the providers than the mongers--When there is an advertised price associated with a time, Don; t negotiate--You are business women, Take care of business-I work from xxx time to yyyy time, I'll return texts no later than 15 minutes if I am in an appointment, and my rates are zzzz" That's it--the second someone tells you he will give you less than you advertised, tell him to pound sand--If you are a good provider, and you are professional, the clients will come to you. And guys--a little consideration for the ladies as well--They are working hard for us--Unless there is a question about what is on the menu or the price, don; t try and haggle too hard. This is their living, If you have the discretionary income to partake, do it without nickle and dimeing them to the penny--let them pay for an extra pair of shoes for their child or dog--they will appreciate it! 3) Communication--From both sides. If you get a text, return it when you can, and state clearly in your ad, that your window to return is 15 minutes, to prevent unwanted texts 3 hrs later when the SO is now within hearing distance of the phone. DO NOT return texts or calls many hours later, or unsolicited, UNLESS you have enough of a relationship with the guy that you know there is no SO and you won; t be screwing them by texting late. When you set an appointment--Stick with it!! If something comes up, communicate that you can; t do it now--you should NEVER, EVER ghost someone. For Mongers--Same rules apply--Send a text every 15 minutes for about an hour, or let her know in your initial text she can respond at anytime with no problem. If you set an appointment, keep it--If something comes up, communicate-If you send out 4 text to find a providers, When you get a bite and make an appointment, have the common courtesy to resend the text to the ones you didn't choose, saying you are no longer interested--NEVER EVER ghost someone.
This is my opinion about this--It may seem like I am Knighting--really not trying to, just want everyone involved to remember that this is a business, no different, functionally, than walking into a restaurant, giving (and taking) an order and providing the services requested for a defined fee. Don; t give shitty Yelp Reviews because your ex-girlfriend works there or the Manager cut you off on the highway, or try to get the waiter to give you the Filet for the price of the Ribeye.
UOnlyLiveOnce
03-09-17, 17:53
Okay- I am new to this, yes. But can someone please help. Every time I look for anyone on all the sites there is always about 6 super hot chicks that no one mentions at all. Is this just not brought up bc you all know they are fake? Would someone be willing to help me get a freaking hot chick- For sure- and know when to swipe right?
Haha Thanks- I really appreciate it and work in the public field of Dayton-so I never pull the trigger cause I have so much to lose.
I have a super cute GF that's hotter than 90% of these chicks. But I am a bit of a adventurist if you know what I mean.
Any help guys- thank you so much!I too have a lot to lose. So 99% of the time, I stick with the ones who have reviews. Sometimes I'll see a provider with only one review if I trust that person's review. After a while, you'll get a sense for whose reviews you can rely on. After a while, you also get a sense for which ads are fake. If they look TGTBT, they almost always are.
Dillsborodave
03-10-17, 11:58
With the recent dustup on here between BR and Brookee I just wanted to highlight a couple of things that seem to have been lost.
The ladies on here are first and foremost, businesswomen; independent contractors, or even employed by someone. The hobbyists on here need to recognize that fact. Their reputations, ARE the currency of the realm around here for every provider. There are ladies that are unreliable, lay there like a dead fish, don; t kiss, do kiss, give the best service ever, or the worst--The reviews we give should and will highlight these FACTS about your particular experience. The problem that I want to address is when we deviate from these things in a cupla ways--1) As consumers or providers on this site, no one should EVER traffic in rumor--If you saw a needle or a track mark, you should report EXACTLY that, If her service isn't up to par, you should report EXACTLY that, If she is out of it, report it. BUT, don't take whatever research you have done, and combine it with a misperceived slight, to jump to conclusions. BR and Brookee have been wonderful, mostly reliable providers on here--report they are hard to get a hold of, don; t bring in rumor and innuendo about dope boy boyfriends and multiple mongers screening--Give them the credit their reputations have earned--And call them out when they slip up. 2) Negotiating--and this is more for the providers than the mongers--When there is an advertised price associated with a time, Don; t negotiate--You are business women, Take care of business-I work from xxx time to yyyy time, I'll return texts no later than 15 minutes if I am in an appointment, and my rates are zzzz" That's it--the second someone tells you he will give you less than you advertised, tell him to pound sand--If you are a good provider, and you are professional, the clients will come to you. And guys--a little consideration for the ladies as well--They are working hard for us--Unless there is a question about what is on the menu or the price, don; t try and haggle too hard. This is their living, If you have the discretionary income to partake, do it without nickle and dimeing them to the penny--let them pay for an extra pair of shoes for their child or dog--they will appreciate it! 3) Communication--From both sides. If you get a text, return it when you can, and state clearly in your ad, that your window to return is 15 minutes, to prevent unwanted texts 3 hrs later when the SO is now within hearing distance of the phone. DO NOT return texts or calls many hours later, or unsolicited, UNLESS you have enough of a relationship with the guy that you know there is no SO and you won; t be screwing them by texting late. When you set an appointment--Stick with it!! If something comes up, communicate that you can; t do it now--you should NEVER, EVER ghost someone. For Mongers--Same rules apply--Send a text every 15 minutes for about an hour, or let her know in your initial text she can respond at anytime with no problem. If you set an appointment, keep it--If something comes up, communicate-If you send out 4 text to find a providers, When you get a bite and make an appointment, have the common courtesy to resend the text to the ones you didn't choose, saying you are no longer interested--NEVER EVER ghost someone.
This is my opinion about this--It may seem like I am Knighting--really not trying to, just want everyone involved to remember that this is a business, no different, functionally, than walking into a restaurant, giving (and taking) an order and providing the services requested for a defined fee. Don; t give shitty Yelp Reviews because your ex-girlfriend works there or the Manager cut you off on the highway, or try to get the waiter to give you the Filet for the price of the Ribeye.You sound like the same guy who came up with the 'Rules for mongering". Prostitution has been going on since the beginning of time. Its really not that difficult to figure out.
You sound like the same guy who came up with the 'Rules for mongering". Prostitution has been going on since the beginning of time. Its really not that difficult to figure out.Well stated. Many here have far too much time on their hands and worship the prostitutes. Do not take that the wrong way, There are some sweet women out there, but for the most part they are simply Prostitutes. Most could care less whom you are or what you feel. It is business. Those that put too much into this make it bad for everyone because they accept the second class treatment like a high school kid getting his first feel of a boom in the hall. I am a handsome guy, but, with all due respect, even if I were a fat pig like some, I would not take the treatment. I did not have a pleasing experience with said woman and I will never be back. That simple. No review needed. There are many I have taken off the list that I have not even got to know because of GPS or they are simply a b-tch or skanky, or poor hygiene. Etc. Not too much brain trust to figure it out. If you have tons of money to expire, they will all love you dearly regardless of how you treat THEM. WELL SAID! Dilsboro!
CrissyLynn2015
03-11-17, 21:56
Go with a girl that you see is highly reviewed. This site is flooded with fakes now that backpage went down. Unfortunately, most of the real ones aren't very hot IMO. The hot ones come and go. I've banged some awesome chicks on this site. Think of it like the stock market. The real stock market is up, USA stock is down.USA stock market is down lmao! I hate that all the Backpage bull shit is all over our site now as well being a provider before, you wake, you post and wait for your friends to call. NOW. You have to post every few hours just so your friends know that your working smh. It's crazy sometimes! Hope everyone had a great weekend xoxo!!
USA stock market is down lmao! I hate that all the Backpage bull shit is all over our site now as well being a provider before, you wake, you post and wait for your friends to call. NOW. You have to post every few hours just so your friends know that your working smh. It's crazy sometimes! Hope everyone had a great weekend xoxo!!Body and get instant wood darling What an amazingly HOT woman and what a variety of items any normal male would love to try with her. UMMMM UM UMMM!!
CinciScubaDude
03-12-17, 16:57
Thanks to everyone here who has posted reviews that have been so helpful to me the past 6 months. Obviously have had some great, good and so so dates. Fortunately have not had any of the nasty bad experiences some have had.
I just got my senior status and look forward to many more years of great times and continued help from others and to help others as well.
TheGenteelMan
03-14-17, 09:12
Ladies, just a noteworthy tidbit of advice that many of you already know but a few have yet to master.
If you meet some of us older gentry, it may take some coaxing and cooing to get the hammer ready. In other words, we're not walking in the door with a raging full-on bull elephant in our pants. So, once it is ready and you're asked for a position change or other extremely simple request, do NOT roll your eyes because you are wanting to finish 10 minutes into a 30 minute session.
The eye-roll will, no.1, kill the mood. No.2, the hammer will be even more difficult to get back to form. I'm sure there's a no.3 and 4, but I think you get the point.
In the short, the eye-roll is a complete buzz kill unless of course it's an eye-roll with a grin over a disgusting or bad joke.
Rant over.
TGM
Serhan1978
03-14-17, 09:17
Thank goodness someone in here finally spoke out.
Amen to this.
Ladies, just a noteworthy tidbit of advice that many of you already know but a few have yet to master.
If you meet some of us older gentry, it may take some coaxing and cooing to get the hammer ready. In other words, we're not walking in the door with a raging full-on bull elephant in our pants. So, once it is ready and you're asked for a position change or other extremely simple request, do NOT roll your eyes because you are wanting to finish 10 minutes into a 30 minute session.
The eye-roll will, no.1, kill the mood. No.2, the hammer will be even more difficult to get back to form. I'm sure there's a no.3 and 4, but I think you get the point.
In the short, the eye-roll is a complete buzz kill unless of course it's an eye-roll with a grin over a disgusting or bad joke.
Rant over.
TGM
Ladies, just a noteworthy tidbit of advice that many of you already know but a few have yet to master.
If you meet some of us older gentry, it may take some coaxing and cooing to get the hammer ready. In other words, we're not walking in the door with a raging full-on bull elephant in our pants. So, once it is ready and you're asked for a position change or other extremely simple request, do NOT roll your eyes because you are wanting to finish 10 minutes into a 30 minute session.
The eye-roll will, no.1, kill the mood. No.2, the hammer will be even more difficult to get back to form. I'm sure there's a no.3 and 4, but I think you get the point.
In the short, the eye-roll is a complete buzz kill unless of course it's an eye-roll with a grin over a disgusting or bad joke.
Rant over.
TGMSo who made you feel this way? I too don't like a girl who views what they are doing as a chore.
My wife. LOL.
So who made you feel this way? I too don't like a girl who views what they are doing as a chore.
TheGenteelMan
03-15-17, 08:16
It just does not pay, sometimes, to give any form of well intended advice. For the minute you do, the receiver of such advice immediately assumes you have placed them in some category or worse indirectly inferred they are a bad person.
We've all seen the, "Send me your.... and I'll send you my..." types of ads. Normally, imho, I view all of these as a setup. However, on one occasion, I did reply to such an ad. I mainly replied because it was listed herein, a resource I have come to trust for the most part.
The result of my inquiry was less than desirable and led me to simply advise the advertiser that false advertisement could lead to several pissed off people; some of which may be pissed off enough to retaliate in kind or worse. The morale, I felt was intuitively obvious. But, I think the entire exchange was lost on someone who isn't particularly thinking that far ahead.
Alas, any of you ladies that come upon this post; I will say it again, if you advertise something, then you really need to follow through on what you say you will do. Otherwise, ensure your ad clearly states, "... This may not apply to you." or drop the offer all together and avoid the consternation.
TGM
John HandCock
03-15-17, 09:24
It just does not pay, sometimes, to give any form of well intended advice. For the minute you do, the receiver of such advice immediately assumes you have placed them in some category or worse indirectly inferred they are a bad person.
We've all seen the, "Send me your.... and I'll send you my..." types of ads. Normally, imho, I view all of these as a setup. However, on one occasion, I did reply to such an ad. I mainly replied because it was listed herein, a resource I have come to trust for the most part.
The result of my inquiry was less than desirable and led me to simply advise the advertiser that false advertisement could lead to several pissed off people; some of which may be pissed off enough to retaliate in kind or worse. The morale, I felt was intuitively obvious. But, I think the entire exchange was lost on someone who isn't particularly thinking that far ahead.
Alas, any of you ladies that come upon this post; I will say it again, if you advertise something, then you really need to follow through on what you say you will do. Otherwise, ensure your ad clearly states, "... This may not apply to you." or drop the offer all together and avoid the consternation.
TGMSadly false advertising is incorporated into everyday life. Not sure how your going to take it out of here. You can go over every detail of what's expected and even if it happens the way you expected might not be happy with the level of enthusiasm that was expected. If you find a provider that performs the same for everyone then that would be the needle in the haystack to hold onto. But if you find her someone is going to complain about her. YMMV is to be expected and if you go over everything, and your still not happy move on to the next one. Its your money to spend on who you want. Your beating a dead horse on the false advertising. How a provider treats you over anyone else is always going to be YMMV and a roll of the dice. Just human nature.
My wife. LOL.My only reason for even participating in the hobby! I can get those looks at home, I don't need them from a "professional".
MollyDaniels
03-15-17, 14:05
Attention Gents!
Due to the numerous messages I have received in the last few weeks about MIA providers.
I am not the girl-scout troupe leader or 'Den-Mother' of Cincy providers. I do not know any more info than is available to everyone else on the internet.
If a provider isn't answering your calls / messages / emails, please don't contact me asking about them. The only person I know anything about is Molly Daniels (me).
Maybe the providers in question have retired and moved on; maybe they do not wish to be your friend anymore; maybe you are on their "do-not-see' list; maybe they are in jail; maybe they are dead; maybe they moved out of state; maybe they went UTR. The list of reasons they are not responding to you is endless.
Rant Over.
Thanks for listening.
Kisses,
MD.
Look honey if you want them to pay attention you can't use the phrase "Den-Mother" because as soon as you did they, and me to be honest, could think about is if you do or do not have the uniform, and if you don't where could we buy one big enough without looking like pedos
Just saying,
A2
Attention Gents!
Due to the numerous messages I have received in the last few weeks about MIA providers.
I am not the girl-scout troupe leader or 'Den-Mother' of Cincy providers. I do not know any more info than is available to everyone else on the internet.
If a provider isn't answering your calls / messages / emails, please don't contact me asking about them. The only person I know anything about is Molly Daniels (me).
Maybe the providers in question have retired and moved on; maybe they do not wish to be your friend anymore; maybe you are on their "do-not-see' list; maybe they are in jail; maybe they are dead; maybe they moved out of state; maybe they went UTR. The list of reasons they are not responding to you is endless.
Rant Over.
Thanks for listening.
Kisses,
MD.
Look honey if you want them to pay attention you can't use the phrase "Den-Mother" because as soon as you did they, and me to be honest, could think about is if you do or do not have the uniform, and if you don't where could we buy one big enough without looking like pedos
Just saying,
A2I'm thinking photoshoot. 😈.
TheGenteelMan
03-16-17, 08:33
Sadly false advertising is incorporated into everyday life. Not sure how your going to take it out of here. You can go over every detail of what's expected and even if it happens the way you expected might not be happy with the level of enthusiasm that was expected. If you find a provider that performs the same for everyone then that would be the needle in the haystack to hold onto. But if you find her someone is going to complain about her. YMMV is to be expected and if you go over everything, and your still not happy move on to the next one. Its your money to spend on who you want. Your beating a dead horse on the false advertising. How a provider treats you over anyone else is always going to be YMMV and a roll of the dice. Just human nature.My writing skills have definitely deteriorated (not that I had much, if any skill, to start with - lol).
I my case there was no YMMV, or variant of said promise - it was completely devoid of it.
I was trying make a point about indignation and consternation. I clearly missed the mark.
Thanks for the reply.
TGM
p.s. Having firsthand experience with it, I completely concur with your assessment of false advertising and YMMV.
MollyDaniels
03-16-17, 12:07
Attention Gents!
Due to the numerous messages I have received in the last few weeks about MIA providers.
I am not the girl-scout troupe leader or 'Den-Mother' of Cincy providers. I do not know any more info than is available to everyone else on the internet.
If a provider isn't answering your calls / messages / emails, please don't contact me asking about them. The only person I know anything about is Molly Daniels (me).
Maybe the providers in question have retired and moved on; maybe they do not wish to be your friend anymore; maybe you are on their "do-not-see' list; maybe they are in jail; maybe they are dead; maybe they moved out of state; maybe they went UTR. The list of reasons they are not responding to you is endless.
Rant Over.
Thanks for listening.
Kisses,
MD.
Look honey if you want them to pay attention you can't use the phrase "Den-Mother" because as soon as you did they, and me to be honest, could think about is if you do or do not have the uniform, and if you don't where could we buy one big enough without looking like pedos
Just saying,
A2I should have known, A2, that you could pop-some-wood envisioning me in a girl scout's uniform! (and Glockman, too).
What was the foster mother's name in Orphan Annie? Maybe I should have used that analogy.
Better, while I like red heads, Orphan Annie never did anything for me.
Baby for my pop wood reaction I just need to think of the words Molly's ass and there it goes.
A2
Molly, I got a t-shirt for my wife a long time back that would be perfect for you:
"all this, and brains too!
The good dr.
I should have known, A2, that you could pop-some-wood envisioning me in a girl scout's uniform! (and Glockman, too).
What was the foster mother's name in Orphan Annie? Maybe I should have used that analogy.
Better, while I like red heads, Orphan Annie never did anything for me.
Baby for my pop wood reaction I just need to think of the words Molly's ass and there it goes.
A2Well, at least our minds are in the gutter. Where they belong.
CincyHobbist
03-16-17, 15:56
Attention Gents!
Due to the numerous messages I have received in the last few weeks about MIA providers.
I am not the girl-scout troupe leader or 'Den-Mother' of Cincy providers. I do not know any more info than is available to everyone else on the internet.
If a provider isn't answering your calls / messages / emails, please don't contact me asking about them. The only person I know anything about is Molly Daniels (me).
Maybe the providers in question have retired and moved on; maybe they do not wish to be your friend anymore; maybe you are on their "do-not-see' list; maybe they are in jail; maybe they are dead; maybe they moved out of state; maybe they went UTR. The list of reasons they are not responding to you is endless.
Rant Over.
Thanks for listening.
Kisses,
MD.
Look honey if you want them to pay attention you can't use the phrase "Den-Mother" because as soon as you did they, and me to be honest, could think about is if you do or do not have the uniform, and if you don't where could we buy one big enough without looking like pedos
Just saying,
A2Go to the LOCAL Scout shop! I guarantee you can find a large enough shirt. BUT wouldn't you want a small shirt to show case the girls?
Not speaking badly about the girls but I think with the woman in question the big plus of a small shirt would be that it wouldn't cover that delectable spinner ass of hers.
Just saying,
A2
I have an idea for a new scale to rate providers. It's the GF-WOW experience scale. An amazing Girl Friend Experience would rate a 10 and a Worn Out Wife Experience would rate a 1.
That perfect GFE score would be for the lady who meets you on time wearing something sexy and making sure she anticipates, knows, or learns your desires. Then she doesn't rush and takes good care of you while she also seems to really enjoy being with you and gets into the things you want to do. Finally, she tells you that she had a great time and invites you back, while discretely taking her donation.
The WOW Experience is when the provider is late, wears blue jeans or sweats, just tells you to get undressed, and then goes through the motions, sighs, complains, rolls her eyes, or says "no" to the things you ask for. Even if she agreed to them or advertised them in the first place. There might also be that awesome turn on of "are you done yet?
One more thing, I know that guys can be jerks as well, so maybe you ladies should devise a scale for rating us.
Stay Safe everybody.
Freckle Freak
03-17-17, 11:23
Attention Gents!
Due to the numerous messages I have received in the last few weeks about MIA providers.
I am not the girl-scout troupe leader or 'Den-Mother' of Cincy providers. I do not know any more info than is available to everyone else on the internet.
If a provider isn't answering your calls / messages / emails, please don't contact me asking about them. The only person I know anything about is Molly Daniels (me).
Maybe the providers in question have retired and moved on; maybe they do not wish to be your friend anymore; maybe you are on their "do-not-see' list; maybe they are in jail; maybe they are dead; maybe they moved out of state; maybe they went UTR. The list of reasons they are not responding to you is endless.
Rant Over.
Thanks for listening.
Kisses,
MD.
Look honey if you want them to pay attention you can't use the phrase "Den-Mother" because as soon as you did they, and me to be honest, could think about is if you do or do not have the uniform, and if you don't where could we buy one big enough without looking like pedos
Just saying,
A2You need two e-mail addresses. The one you currently have and one for MIA Provider Inquiries. Set up an automatic response on the MIA e-mail address with the following.
"Thank you for the inquiry about your MIA provider. I personally haven't talked to her anytime recently. I'm sure her service was good or you wouldn't be asking about her. I happen to know another provider who is intelligent, great conversationalist, sexy, reliable, fairly priced based on the high quality of service you will receive and last but not least, is hot as hell! If you want the high quality service that you haven't had since you provider went MIA then you can contact ME at mollydanielsmollydaniels@yahoo.com. Once again thank you for the inquiry.
I don't know if this will help, but it may be worth a try! LOL.
John HandCock
03-17-17, 13:40
I have an idea for a new scale to rate providers. It's the GF-WOW experience scale. An amazing Girl Friend Experience would rate a 10 and a Worn Out Wife Experience would rate a 1.
That perfect GFE score would be for the lady who meets you on time wearing something sexy and making sure she anticipates, knows, or learns your desires. Then she doesn't rush and takes good care of you while she also seems to really enjoy being with you and gets into the things you want to do. Finally, she tells you that she had a great time and invites you back, while discretely taking her donation.
The WOW Experience is when the provider is late, wears blue jeans or sweats, just tells you to get undressed, and then goes through the motions, sighs, complains, rolls her eyes, or says "no" to the things you ask for. Even if she agreed to them or advertised them in the first place. There might also be that awesome turn on of "are you done yet?
One more thing, I know that guys can be jerks as well, so maybe you ladies should devise a scale for rating us.
Stay Safe everybody.Boy you opened a can of worms on that last statement LOL. Mongers have way thinner skin and much more sensitive than the ladies. Most providers if truthful would tell you that most men have know idea. If they reviewed and was truthful they would go out of business pretty fast. You pay for the illusion that your the cock of the walk for that time period. You don't want to read in a review that your actually not.
Go to the LOCAL Scout shop! I guarantee you can find a large enough shirt. BUT wouldn't you want a small shirt to show case the girls?
Not speaking badly about the girls but I think with the woman in question the big plus of a small shirt would be that it wouldn't cover that delectable spinner ass of hers.
Just saying,
A2As best that I can recall from my troubled youth, a Den Mother is actually the adult female leader of a group of cub scouts, not girl scouts. I stand to be corrected though, as I was a lousy cub scout. Nevertheless, Molly would make an ideal Den Mother. In fact, she can be my Den Mother any day of the week. Either in or out of uniform!
Trailblazer96
03-17-17, 15:10
Why.
As best that I can recall from my troubled youth, a Den Mother is actually the adult female leader of a group of cub scouts, not girl scouts. I stand to be corrected though, as I was a lousy cub scout. Nevertheless, Molly would make an ideal Den Mother. In fact, she can be my Den Mother any day of the week. Either in or out of uniform!Mr. Glockman on both regards. Any day of the week and I remember my Den Mother of my Cub Scout troop.
Not sure where to post this, guess this as good as anywhere. Wondering what swing clubs you all would recommend checking out. Anywhere between here and cincy possibly further if you know of a real good one not to far away. Got a lady friend who is really interested in checking one out and having some group fun. Pm if you don't want to post in the open forum. Thanks in advance!!
There are a few local ones. Club 440 in Milford and Sinday here in Cincinnati. Princeton in Columbus is supposed to be quite good.
I'm actually working on going to 440 tonight. Might see ya there!
Not sure where to post this, guess this as good as anywhere. Wondering what swing clubs you all would recommend checking out. Anywhere between here and cincy possibly further if you know of a real good one not to far away. Got a lady friend who is really interested in checking one out and having some group fun. Pm if you don't want to post in the open forum. Thanks in advance!!
This is Sunny from Wednesday. I wished my Den Mother looked like this. I might have attended all the meetings and stayed in the cub scouts longer. But then, I might have turned out to be normal! That would have been a shame.
Boy you opened a can of worms on that last statement LOL. Mongers have way thinner skin and much more sensitive than the ladies. Most providers if truthful would tell you that most men have know idea. If they reviewed and was truthful they would go out of business pretty fast. You pay for the illusion that your the cock of the walk for that time period. You don't want to read in a review that your actually not.Why would they review anything other that what is important to them: that you upheld your part of the deal as agreed or that you shorted them or that you ran out without leaving their donation? One other category of their concern might be if you are a difficult customer or not, but beyond that, there's not much else they care about. They are doing this for a job, not for fun, not for sport fucking. They don't care how you perform in bed, what you look like, etc. In any case, I do know of another review site that does feature reviews of hobbyists by providers, but it's garbage and I hardly ever visit it.
We're judgmental in life. And we certainly can and tend to be judgmental in our hobby. The more I hobby and age the more I realize benefit of the doubt goes a long way. But it has definitely bitten me in the ass, too.
In Lacey Foxx's case, how can anyone not judge her when her incall is in such bad condition regardless of her explanation why? I did. But my new non-judgmental self has decided that's her gig. And if you want to see Lacey, that's where she gigs. So why do I continue to compromise certain hobby standards like a clean crib by continuing to see Lacey? Sorry, but at least for me, Lacey's more addicting with every visit. It only makes sense because that's the way it usually is with most new provider "relationships. " Comfort and confidence builds with familiarity. In Lacey's case, frequency pays. But maybe not for everyone. In my case, she's incredibly attentive to my desires, never assumes anything, and is the first provider I've ever met who, in the middle of the deed will stop and ask, "can I suck your dick for a while? I really like doing that. " Uh, is the Pope Catholic?
I've never understood how anyone behind the wheel of a Ford Fiesta could possibly love his car as much as the next guy driving a new Mustang, Lexus, or whatever. And I can't count the number of times I've read a review raving about a provider and after glancing at her posted ad and pics thought to myself, "how could anyone want to see that woman?" But they do. It's called YMMV.
Similarly, I found it surprising when I would read reports about Lacey Foxx that would not agree she's pretty, attractive, or a good performer. Yeah, she has some visible baby damage, but in no way is it as extensive as I think I've read from others on this site. So again, YMMV I suppose.
But at least IMHO, Lacey Foxx is worth adapting your hobby habits. This last time, I brought along my travel bag complete with a fresh bed sheet, a quality pillow, a couple of towels, and a plastic bag to store clothes to protect them from the nicotine smell. Why would I go through all of that trouble just to spend a couple of hours with any provider? Because few providers perform as outstandingly well as Lacey Foxx IMHO.
This is my last Lacey Foxx review only because after this I really have nothing more to say that hasn't already been said. But again, YMMV. As a result of my recent visit with this young nymphette the other night, Lacey Foxx is worth the time, the effort, the environment compromises, and the wallet damage.
Here's where you find Lacey Foxx:
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/29264-Let-s-have-some-fun-.html
But note! There's another newbie provider calling herself "Sexylillacey" (who is clearly not Lacey Foxx) found here:
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/29369--Come-and-enjoy-Lacey-.html
Unfortunately, like Silky Wetness had to deal with back in the day a few years ago when Velvet introduced everyone to her disciple she named "Silk," a newbie provider at that time (who recently went on vacation most recently known as Sassy Sexy) originally came on the scene by the handle "Silky" and confused the hell out of everyone (especially Silk). Sassy probably changed her name three or four times by the time the feud was over (even this site's admin got involved if I remember correctly) and Silk herself had to change her name to her current "Silky Wetness" moniker. And although I'm sure she's a nice woman, unfortunately, the new Sexylillacy is causing similar headache for our little miss Lacey Foxx with her new handle choice.
My advice if you've got the time and the cash? Run, don't walk to spend time with Lacey Foxx, my friends. But before you do, I suggest you read my prior report on her first:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11470-USA-Adult-Classified-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3298099&viewfull=1#post3298099
Stay horny my friends.
Tommy.Thomas, not to be a dick, but we (or at least I) need a TLDR on that shit. Listen, I'm glad you've reached a plateau of supreme non-judgmental. I don't think the rest of us have. Any chick that wants to sell that booty full time can manage to get a hotel room as part of the business overhead that comes with having guys show up.
If you guys are seriously willing to go fuck on an air mattress (or less) in a house with no running water along with toilets that don't flush and still have shit in them, then knock your socks off. Just don't go on about how those of us that aren't impressed should be "not walking, but running" to see her.
Seriously. I think this is why the choices in the area are bullshit. A lot of you guys are mongering on a hamburger budget pretending it's a fucking steak.
Anyway, have a nice day.
A few of you mongers are posting about how Crissee ripped you off and then she is making good on previous lapses of time or contributions. Yet it is a select few. I have received more PM's from others that thanked me for my original post about her and her recent issues. She has to keep a few of you around to pay the pharmacy bills, support her BF and pay the rent so it doesn't surprise me. Here is the thing. She has ripped others off, your time will come. She is an addict and has and will lie to get what she needs. If you really want to see how reconciliatory she can be, then one of you should contact her and say "I want two one hour services that were pre-paid by Freckle Freak the last time he was at your Norwood estate". Let's see how far that will get you. I also don't need to be lectured on that was my mistake because I already know it was a choice I made. I also can afford to lose some funds. I also can pay only to play and leave. So it's not about any of that. It's about the principle of her ability to tell the truth. It's about the principle of her saying she isn't an addict. It's about the principle of her BF showing up and saying it's her cousin. I am sure that her BF had a lot to do with her going silent on me. He didn't like the fact that I had spent the night there and watched her nod out multiple times and find their stash. He didn't like the fact that I had invaded his turf on more than an hourly basis. Sure her service is good, that's why a few of you are continuing to enable her addiction. As far as giving her enough rope to hang herself, well I gave it to her but she made the choice to put it around her neck and tighten the noose. Eventually she will be walking the streets because a few of you are giving her the rope she so desperately requires until the next time.
What is sad is she has so much potential not as a provider but as human being. Until she makes the choice to stop she will just be an addict who is relying on a few enablers.Hey Freckle. I've followed you for a while and have appreciated your input. I do find it curious how you wind up in so many situations like Crissee's etc. How does that happen? I mean, how do you get so involved in the lives of users / providers that you can share the details of their lives, and ALWAYS seem to share some funds?
Just asking. It's starting to seem to me that you're enjoying being a close-up spectator at the very least.
ItsTimeToEat
03-17-17, 23:35
Hey Freckle. I've followed you for a while and have appreciated your input. I do find it curious how you wind up in so many situations like Crissee's etc. How does that happen? I mean, how do you get so involved in the lives of users / providers that you can share the details of their lives, and ALWAYS seem to share some funds?
Just asking. It's starting to seem to me that you're enjoying being a close-up spectator at the very least.Freckle you are taking this shit to personal. Crissee does a good job with the GFE and maybe too good in your case. You just need to remember what a wise man once said: I don't pay them to fuck me, I pay them to leave. There is nothing wrong with hanging with a working girl but don't be surprised when she Nexts ya.
Freckle Freak
03-18-17, 22:04
Freckle you are taking this shit to personal. Crissee does a good job with the GFE and maybe too good in your case. You just need to remember what a wise man once said: I don't pay them to fuck me, I pay them to leave. There is nothing wrong with hanging with a working girl but don't be surprised when she Nexts ya.I have learned there are two types of mongers. Those that pay them to leave and those that want more. A book can be written on the reasons for wanting more so I will leave it at that. I don't take what an addict does personally. I do believe in the goodness of humanity and I trust someone until I have the facts not to trust them. Crissee is not a sociopath like Star Baby in Louisville, she is just an addict, lost in her world of drugs and deception. I have many working girls as friends, some I play with some I don't. Why is explained below.
Hey Freckle. I've followed you for a while and have appreciated your input. I do find it curious how you wind up in so many situations like Crissee's etc. How does that happen? I mean, how do you get so involved in the lives of users / providers that you can share the details of their lives, and ALWAYS seem to share some funds? Just asking. It's starting to seem to me that you're enjoying being a close-up spectator at the very least.Some people who attend a sporting event want front row seats to talk to the players, hear all the conversations and see the details on the sidelines. That is their hobby. Mine is this hobby. You ask why? Well my therapist and I have been working on that for several months now and it comes down to my relationship needs. You see I like relationships where I am having an impact on another person. I'm a giver, a healer, someone who wants to help a person find the best in them. I put my heart out, sometimes too far, and try to have an impact. I was engaged to a woman who was once a provider and a recovering addict. I helped her get clean. I saved her life 3 times. She died suddenly last year from medical reasons mostly unrelated to her previous addiction. She died clean. When I first met her I saw something in her that was special. I helped her return to humanity so she could help others and she helped many addicts become clean.
I saw some of the similar things in Crissee that I saw in my deceased fiance. I have seen some similar things in other providers that have a problem with addiction and I have helped some become recovering addicts. Like any hobby, you win some and you lose some. The expenditure of funds are a part of the test, establishing trust, building a friendship. Crissee destroyed this trust, because as I know all too well, an active addict will lie, cheat, steal, deceive and do what ever is necessary to get their next fix. I thought I was developing this type of relationship with Crissee. It wasn't about sex, it was about helping someone who was crying out for help. Her cries for help were just part of her addict game. Once the pieces of the addiction puzzle were put together, I was done. Small loss in funds but worth the risk if she had actually wanted to change. She wasn't ready yet and may never be. She may end up like her father, an addict who ODs.
So why do I rant on about her? It's to warn others of her extreme ability to deceive. To keep others from falling into her trap of lies and deception. It's because of the principle of the trust I tried to establish with her that she broke so easily. I told her I didn't care what she did but just be honest and I will not judge. She knew that was my only rule. So I rant so she can read about her life and where it is going. Maybe someday she will choose to make a change.
What is interesting is for every good review she gets, I get two PM's from mongers on the board who have thanked me for exposing her addiction and true self. PM's telling me about their experience with her mostly bad. I don't want to see her as a statistic in some obituary. I think she has more to give to humanity if only she can make the choice to return. The real question is why do so many of you take the risks associated with seeing her with so many other good, reliable, clean providers in the area. Yes she is good in bed, but the risks of her type of addiction far out way the hour of her GFE experience. Why do some of you enable her addiction? I know why, it goes back to the beginning of this post, you pay her to leave. Well keep up with the reviews because her PO is very interested in them as well.
ItsTimeToEat
03-19-17, 06:11
Your post was well written and composed all the way until you added the last sentence about the PO. It hints at exposing her and at the same time shows you are vindictive. Be safe up in Indy.
I have learned there are two types of mongers. Those that pay them to leave and those that want more. A book can be written on the reasons for wanting more so I will leave it at that. I don't take what an addict does personally. I do believe in the goodness of humanity and I trust someone until I have the facts not to trust them. Crissee is not a sociopath like Star Baby in Louisville, she is just an addict, lost in her world of drugs and deception. I have many working girls as friends, some I play with some I don't. Why is explained below.
Some people who attend a sporting event want front row seats to talk to the players, hear all the conversations and see the details on the sidelines. That is their hobby. Mine is this hobby. You ask why? Well my therapist and I have been working on that for several months now and it comes down to my relationship needs. You see I like relationships where I am having an impact on another person. I'm a giver, a healer, someone who wants to help a person find the best in them. I put my heart out, sometimes too far, and try to have an impact. blah, blah blahPeople just aren't that affiliative. Everyone is working an angle, and in most cases altruism is non-existent. While I don't know you, the behavior I see follows a predictive path. You offer yourself up as a savior to these girls, and when they don't respond appropriately, you become coercive and spiteful. Filling pages of the forum about them, mainly trying to punish them. Example here:
Ursula The Sea Witch
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19493-Ursula-The-Sea-Witch
I'll end with this: Words like "giver" and "healer" aren't commonly applied for self-description. They are used by others to describe someone else.
Soooo, with being a total noob with no prior posts, you were able to connect with one of, if not THE, most sought after ladies in the city?
Guess she's not screening very thoroughly.Dude, being a new poster doesn't mean you're a "noob. " For all we know he screens just fine but hasn't been a long time member here. If you don't want to believe him, that's fine. No need to chase off new people just because you want to be a dick.
Freckle Freak
03-19-17, 21:55
Your post was well written and composed all the way until you added the last sentence about the PO. It hints at exposing her and at the same time shows you are vindictive. Be safe up in Indy.AutumnSkyy was a provider in Indy. She was also a crack addict. One day she called me and said she was being evicted from the home she was living at and where I was staying with her. How could this be? I was giving her the money for the rent. I was paying for the utilities. I was paying for her cancer treatments. How could she be evicted? Well the landlord told me she hadn't paid rent for 2-1/2 months. That can't be true, I gave her the money for the rent. Well it was because she smoked the rent along with the money she was making as a provider. I left and said good luck and call me if you ever want to make a change. She moved in with another addict and I paid $100 wk on utility bills so she could stay there and have a roof over her head. I never gave her cash again. I then contacted all of her regulars and told them she was a active crack addict and suggested that if they had any heart at all they would stop seeing her and enabling her. Most of them stopped seeing her. Soon she had no money. 4 weeks later I got a call from her asking for my help. She was ready to find a rehab facility and get clean. She had finally hit rock bottom and made the choice to change. We researched rehab facilities and she got into one. She stayed there for 7 months and never used again.
So I guess by your assessment I would have been called vindictive because I cut her off, forced her back onto the streets, cut off her means to make funds all because of the thousands of dollars I spent on her? Nope, because that was the only way to get her to hit rock bottom and force her to change. And what a change it was. That woman became a spectacular human being and it's why I asked her to marry me.
So here is my quandary. Everyday I almost make the call, almost send the letter that is written, almost drive to Cincy and visit the PO. Well I guess I just let the cat out of the bag didn't I. The PO comment was for her because I knew you probably would tell her about it if she hadn't already read it on this board. Yah, your right, I'm vindictive over a couple of hundred dollars. Hell in fact she owes me nothing because I was privileged to meet her BF right out of prison. That in itself was worth the price of admission.
So let me ask you a question, would it be worth calling her PO if it saved her life? I personally think it would be worth a shot. When sober she is an incredible human being. I will be happy to PM you her PO's info so you can reach out and possibly save her life. Oh, I forgot, you can't do that, because her drugged out pussy is too cheap and too good to spoil your recreational time. You are one of those mongers who pays them to leave, which I have no problem with. In her case let's just hope your contribution doesn't contribute to her leaving this earth.
Be safe down in Cincy.
Freckle Freak
03-19-17, 22:36
People just aren't that affiliative. Everyone is working an angle, and in most cases altruism is non-existent. While I don't know you, the behavior I see follows a predictive path. You offer yourself up as a savior to these girls, and when they don't respond appropriately, you become coercive and spiteful. Filling pages of the forum about them, mainly trying to punish them. Example here:
Ursula The Sea Witch
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19493-Ursula-The-Sea-Witch
I'll end with this: Words like "giver" and "healer" aren't commonly applied for self-description. They are used by others to describe someone else.I am just a freckle freak and I have many faults. My deceased fiance called me "Save a HO". It was her joke because she knew me better than anyone. When any addict doesn't respond appropriately you have a choice, leave them to their own demise or follow a path to help them make the choice to change. Sometimes that includes being an asshole. Therapists call it "Tough Love". Crissee can choose a different path, I tried to help, but her addictive personality won out. So many always think it's about the money, money is just an object she is a person crying out for help but not able to make a change because she has a disease. I really felt I was making headway until the BF showed up. Then things changed and probably for a variety of reasons. I fill pages of the forums about many incidents of addicts and the choices they make. I do so because I think many mongers are kind of like Pavlov's dog. Doing it once doesn't get your conscience salivating. Only through repetitive posts and stories will some of you take notice and stop salivating over drug addicted pussy. I know there is a lot of pussy being sold strictly for the purpose of feeding their addiction. I can't help them all, only the ones that ask for it. Crissee asked for help, so I stepped in, that was my angle.
Ursula, Star Baby is a sociopath. There is no help for her. If you read the story carefully you will notice the sociopathic behaviors, which by the way have been completely confirmed by her family. I don't believe Crissee is a sociopath just someone with the disease of addiction.
I also will end with your ending. I didn't describe myself with those words, my therapist described me with those words. I was just repeating what someone, in fact how many people have described me. Sorry if I repeated what others have said.
Dude, being a new poster doesn't mean you're a "noob. " For all we know he screens just fine but hasn't been a long time member here. If you don't want to believe him, that's fine. No need to chase off new people just because you want to be a dick.I've never seen white knighting of a dude before. Didn't me to ruffle the bromance between you and Justme2345.
Watch your mouth, BTW.
IslandDreams
03-20-17, 08:42
AutumnSkyy was a provider in Indy. She was also a crack addict. One day she called me and said she was being evicted from the home she was living at and where I was staying with her. How could this be? I was giving her the money for the rent. I was paying for the utilities. I was paying for her cancer treatments. How could she be evicted? Well the landlord told me she hadn't paid rent for 2-1/2 months. That can't be true, I gave her the money for the rent. Well it was because she smoked the rent along with the money she was making as a provider. I left and said good luck and call me if you ever want to make a change. She moved in with another addict and I paid $100 wk on utility bills so she could stay there and have a roof over her head. I never gave her cash again. I then contacted all of her regulars and told them she was a active crack addict and suggested that if they had any heart at all they would stop seeing her and enabling her. Most of them stopped seeing her. Soon she had no money. 4 weeks later I got a call from her asking for my help. She was ready to find a rehab facility and get clean. She had finally hit rock bottom and made the choice to change. We researched rehab facilities and she got into one. She stayed there for 7 months and never used again.
Addicts do change until all of their sources of income to buy the drugs stop, then they need to leave the area they are in to get away from the dealers and mongers that enable them. The sad part of that is Crissee will never leave the area to get away from all the enablers and as long as pussy is cheap mongers will visit her because in the end they don't care if she lives or dies just that they get pussy for a cheap price while she is alive, then they will find someone else.
So Freckle while I think you have a good heart in regard to these girls, there are too many mongers who just want their body parts and don't give a rats ass about them personally, as long as that exists they will have money for drugs. An Addict like Crissee does more damage to peoples lives than they do to their own when they need to get high. In order to stay on the street she has ratted on others and was complicit in sending them to prison, there are stories from her family that she was the one that gave her dad the hot shot that finished him (I don't know that for a fact but members of her family thinks she did him in). As an addict she also does not give a shit about her clients, she has turned in tons of people to stay on the street.
So in the end Crissee will continue to do her thing and the mongers will continue to do their thing. Freckle you cannot solely change the life of an addict.
Yes she reads these comments and she does not care what they say, she will just have other mongers post glowing rebuttals in exchange for discounted pussy.
So the morale of all of this is you cannot change her nor can you change the mongers. Sorry brother, some things you just cannot fix, all you can do is stay away from the people like Crissee yourself and whatever path she takes and what ever consequence there is that's what will happen. That's the path I took, I cannot change what mongers see her and I cannot change the damage she does to people, but I can choose not to be in the path of either so it does not affect me.
LEO is constantly watching her because they know she is a addict and they want her dealers, remember in August they had watched from may on until they had the evidence In August. Don't be foolish to think they are not watching her even now. You don't have to call the PO just let time take care of the inevitable outcome.
Be safe.
UOnlyLiveOnce
03-20-17, 10:33
Addicts do change until all of their sources of income to buy the drugs stop, then they need to leave the area they are in to get away from the dealers and mongers that enable them. The sad part of that is Crissee will never leave the area to get away from all the enablers and as long as pussy is cheap mongers will visit her because in the end they don't care if she lives or dies just that they get pussy for a cheap price while she is alive, then they will find someone else.
So Freckle while I think you have a good heart in regard to these girls, there are too many mongers who just want their body parts and don't give a rats ass about them personally, as long as that exists they will have money for drugs. An Addict like Crissee does more damage to peoples lives than they do to their own when they need to get high. In order to stay on the street she has ratted on others and was complicit in sending them to prison, there are stories from her family that she was the one that gave her dad the hot shot that finished him (I don't know that for a fact but members of her family thinks she did him in). As an addict she also does not give a shit about her clients, she has turned in tons of people to stay on the street.
So in the end Crissee will continue to do her thing and the mongers will continue to do their thing. Freckle you cannot solely change the life of an addict.
Yes she reads these comments and she does not care what they say, she will just have other mongers post glowing rebuttals in exchange for discounted pussy.
So the morale of all of this is you cannot change her nor can you change the mongers. Sorry brother, some things you just cannot fix, all you can do is stay away from the people like Crissee yourself and whatever path she takes and what ever consequence there is that's what will happen. That's the path I took, I cannot change what mongers see her and I cannot change the damage she does to people, but I can choose not to be in the path of either so it does not affect me.
LEO is constantly watching her because they know she is a addict and they want her dealers, remember in August they had watched from may on until they had the evidence In August. Don't be foolish to think they are not watching her even now. You don't have to call the PO just let time take care of the inevitable outcome.
Be safe.That's a pretty strong statement, saying mongers don't care whether someone lives or dies. I think it's more accurate to say most mongers understand that providers are going to do what they're going to do, and that no amount of White Knighting is going to change that. Also, I think most mongers understand that a number of providers associate with some pretty unsavory characters and that a fair number of providers are involved in illegal activities in addition to the hobby. As such, staying out of providers' personal lives is usually a wise strategy, since you can't always tell which providers are into some really bad scenes.
I'm not trying to diss any providers here. I have found many of them to be likeable apart from the reason I'm seeing them. And in a way, they're honest in the sense that they have at least named their price, unlike your average woman in everyday life who keeps moving the goal post on guys.
As for Freckle, I do not know him. I do know that no one ever does anything for 100% pure reasons. But to each his own.
IslandDreams
03-20-17, 11:22
That's a pretty strong statement, saying mongers don't care whether someone lives or dies. I think it's more accurate to say most mongers understand that providers are going to do what they're going to do, and that no amount of White Knighting is going to change that. Also, I think most mongers understand that a number of providers associate with some pretty unsavory characters and that a fair number of providers are involved in illegal activities in addition to the hobby. As such, staying out of providers' personal lives is usually a wise strategy, since you can't always tell which providers are into some really bad scenes.
I'm not trying to diss any providers here. I have found many of them to be likeable apart from the reason I'm seeing them. And in a way, they're honest in the sense that they have at least named their price, unlike your average woman in everyday life who keeps moving the goal post on guys.
As for Freckle, I do not know him. I do know that no one ever does anything for 100% pure reasons. But to each his own.It was too strong of a statement, I like the way you put it, it is more accurate than my statement. in the end you and I arrive at the same conclusion "staying out of providers' personal lives is usually a wise strategy, since you can't always tell which providers are into some really bad scenes."
Raider1687
03-20-17, 11:28
I've never seen white knighting of a dude before. Didn't me to ruffle the bromance between you and Justme2345.
Watch your mouth, BTW.1. You don't know who the guy is.
2. You questioned her screening methods, without knowing anything about them. This board and senior status is not the end all, be all of screening. You need to learn there is more out there than this board.
3. You accused another member of a bromance with a guy that has posted once.
So, you ripped two guys and asserted that Brookee hadn't been screening properly, all without knowing a God damn thing about the situation.
The board needs a lot less of these posts without any thought that lead to rumors about providers and mongers.
1. You don't know who the guy is.
2. You questioned her screening methods, without knowing anything about them. This board and senior status is not the end all, be all of screening. You need to learn there is more out there than this board.
3. You accused another member of a bromance with a guy that has posted once.
So, you ripped two guys and asserted that Brookee hadn't been screening properly, all without knowing a God damn thing about the situation.
The board needs a lot less of these posts without any thought that lead to rumors about providers and mongers.Dude referred to me as a dick. I didn't label anybody in a derogatory way. You have it all wrong I'm afraid.
That's your idea of 'ripping'? Lol
Rumors, about who? Most high quality providers wont see somebody unless they have senior staus or good references. Is that not fair to say? Sure there are exceptions. Stop acting as if a provider hasnt createda username and gave themselves a review before. Not saying thats the case here, but somebody with one post of one of the best providers is certainly suspect.
Imho of course
SincyCinnamon might have set a new record for wasting everybody's time checking on ads. She currently has 6 ads posted. Of course they have different fees as well. Why should we visit somebody this desperate or who just doesn't mind wasting our time?
Raider1687
03-20-17, 13:06
Dude referred to me as a dick. I didn't label anybody in a derogatory way. You have it all wrong I'm afraid.
That's your idea of 'ripping'? Lol
Rumors, about who? Most high quality providers wont see somebody unless they have senior staus or good references. Is that not fair to say? Sure there are exceptions. Stop acting as if a provider hasnt createda username and gave themselves a review before. Not saying thats the case here, but somebody with one post of one of the best providers is certainly suspect.
Imho of courseTrue or false? Did you or did you not make an assumption about Brooke's screening process based on his post? Yes or No?
You said yourself, status OR references. So, why make a post about her screening process, when you don't know anything about it. It is a business to her, don't you think you should be sure of something before you say it?
Just like your last post about the provider creating a username, is it that or her screening process that you are attacking, exactly?
CincyHobbist
03-20-17, 16:07
That since BP went tits up and the USA ads have been flooded with new women, that it seems the USA regular ladies have dropped out of the scene?
It almost makes a hobbyist want to find a new hobby!
AutumnSkyy was a provider in Indy. She was also a crack addict. One day she called me and said she was being evicted from the home she was living at and where I was staying with her. How could this be? I was giving her the money for the rent. I was paying for the utilities. I was paying for her cancer treatments. How could she be evicted? Well the landlord told me she hadn't paid rent for 2-1/2 months. That can't be true, I gave her the money for the rent. Well it was because she smoked the rent along with the money she was making as a provider. I left and said good luck and call me if you ever want to make a change. She moved in with another addict and I paid $100 wk on utility bills so she could stay there and have a roof over her head. I never gave her cash again. I then contacted all of her regulars and told them she was a active crack addict and suggested that if they had any heart at all they would stop seeing her and enabling her. Most of them stopped seeing her. Soon she had no money. 4 weeks later I got a call from her asking for my help. She was ready to find a rehab facility and get clean. She had finally hit rock bottom and made the choice to change. We researched rehab facilities and she got into one. She stayed there for 7 months and never used again.."People just aren't that affiliative. Everyone is working an angle, and in most cases altruism is non-existent. While I don't know you, the behavior I see follows a predictive path. You offer yourself up as a savior to these girls, and when they don't respond appropriately, you become coercive and spiteful. Filling pages of the forum about them, mainly trying to punish them. Example here:
The personality type is very, very easy to identify. It's kinda like the "good guy" angle people play, or I see on tinder, how they're a nice guy and they get a match, don't get a response from their "Hey, what's going on?" message, and proceed to say things "your just like the rest stupid ****, always chasing the ass holes". Like lmao, the most contradicting shit I've ever seen! It's unbelievable. This is no different; its borderline sociopathic even- where the guy doesn't get the response that aligned with their intentions, and proceed to be vengeful, spiteful, and malicious in all there intents, in order to get back at them. All while trying to play this fucking card as if they're doing the right thing to help them. No, ironically you're not. If you want to TRULY help them, you wouldn't see a single, fucking, one of these people. Stop the fucking facade, the only person you're fooling is, at best, yourself.
And if you / really / want to help addicts, guess what, there's places that you can do that! Rooms, service centers, churches, prisons- there are plenty of people on the front line that genuinely need help. They have to be seeking it though. Recovery is for the people that want it, not the ones that need it. But I know you know this, or you should if you're this self-righteous healer and prosperity provider that you assert you are. Your motives are spoken by your actions- and going through a few posts indicates your personality type is easily identifiable as the previous fore mentioned "good guy". It comes down to this cycle, that you quite honestly have probably practiced in your real relationships as well.
Expectation. Motive - Unmet Expectation / Possibly hurt feelings (key) - Spite and retaliation to those that hurt / didn't meet expectations. When you wan't to objectively look at your own actions and own part in any or all of this, you can make progression in correcting your behavior, and possibly even attain a zen moment where you're like "Holy shit, I was in the wrong". Until then, stop the childish posting attacking them (and the mongers that are feeding their addiction! Crowning yourself as this savior is so fake and so absolutely appalling that it's embarrassing and not attractive.
True or false? Did you or did you not make an assumption about Brooke's screening process based on his post? Yes or No?
You said yourself, status OR references. So, why make a post about her screening process, when you don't know anything about it. It is a business to her, don't you think you should be sure of something before you say it?
Just like your last post about the provider creating a username, is it that or her screening process that you are attacking, exactly?I'm not into high school like drama. Sorry. You'll have to look elsewhere for somebody to entertain you.
Recess is over.
True or false? Did you or did you not make an assumption about Brooke's screening process based on his post? Yes or No?
You said yourself, status OR references. So, why make a post about her screening process, when you don't know anything about it. It is a business to her, don't you think you should be sure of something before you say it?
Just like your last post about the provider creating a username, is it that or her screening process that you are attacking, exactly?I will not comment on Brooke's screening process, but I will say sometime a telephone call will get you a lot further than a text message. I've called and chatted with several providers and was able to acquire appointments without an extensive vetting process and all the while reading about guys talking about the vetting process they endured. Perhaps, the young man just has charisma and woo his way an appointment.
Freckle Freak
03-20-17, 21:20
As for Freckle, I do not know him. I do know that no one ever does anything for 100% pure reasons. But to each his own.I like freckles and finding someone with great freckles who can fuck and suck me like no other, well that's something that isn't 100% pure. Yet then again maybe it is, because it's pure pleasure!
Raider1687
03-20-17, 21:47
I'm not into high school like drama. Sorry. You'll have to look elsewhere for somebody to entertain you.
Recess is over.I didn't think you would be able to explain yourself. Thanks for confirming that. LOL.
John HandCock
03-20-17, 22:39
"People just aren't that affiliative. Everyone is working an angle, and in most cases altruism is non-existent. While I don't know you, the behavior I see follows a predictive path. You offer yourself up as a savior to these girls, and when they don't respond appropriately, you become coercive and spiteful. Filling pages of the forum about them, mainly trying to punish them. Example here:
The personality type is very, very easy to identify. It's kinda like the "good guy" angle people play, or I see on tinder, how they're a nice guy and they get a match, don't get a response from their "Hey, what's going on?" message, and proceed to say things "your just like the rest stupid ****, always chasing the ass holes". Like lmao, the most contradicting shit I've ever seen! It's unbelievable. This is no different; its borderline sociopathic even- where the guy doesn't get the response that aligned with their intentions, and proceed to be vengeful, spiteful, and malicious in all there intents, in order to get back at them. All while trying to play this fucking card as if they're doing the right thing to help them. No, ironically you're not. If you want to TRULY help them, you wouldn't see a single, fucking, one of these people. Stop the fucking facade, the only person you're fooling is, at best, yourself.
And if you / really / want to help addicts, guess what, there's places that you can do that! Rooms, service centers, churches, prisons- there are plenty of people on the front line that genuinely need help. They have to be seeking it though. Recovery is for the people that want it, not the ones that need it. But I know you know this, or you should if you're this self-righteous healer and prosperity provider that you assert you are. Your motives are spoken by your actions- and going through a few posts indicates your personality type is easily identifiable as the previous fore mentioned "good guy". It comes down to this cycle, that you quite honestly have probably practiced in your real relationships as well.
Expectation. Motive - Unmet Expectation / Possibly hurt feelings (key) - Spite and retaliation to those that hurt / didn't meet expectations. When you wan't to objectively look at your own actions and own part in any or all of this, you can make progression in correcting your behavior, and possibly even attain a zen moment where you're like "Holy shit, I was in the wrong". Until then, stop the childish posting attacking them (and the mongers that are feeding their addiction! Crowning yourself as this savior is so fake and so absolutely appalling that it's embarrassing and not attractive.Well said!!
LukeCoolHand
03-20-17, 23:57
I'll white knight. I counted 3, with one price discrepancy.
Cite your source for 6 with different fees, if you please.
SincyCinnamon might have set a new record for wasting everybody's time checking on ads. She currently has 6 ads posted. Of course they have different fees as well. Why should we visit somebody this desperate or who just doesn't mind wasting our time?
UOnlyLiveOnce
03-21-17, 20:33
That since BP went tits up and the USA ads have been flooded with new women, that it seems the USA regular ladies have dropped out of the scene?
It almost makes a hobbyist want to find a new hobby!But I don't think the demise of BP necessarily caused USA ladies to leave. Some of the departed USA ladies had been around a while and may have been looking to cut back or get out of the hobby anyway.
I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.
Chest. Be safe out there.
Alaska Tom
03-21-17, 22:31
But I don't think the demise of BP necessarily caused USA ladies to leave. Some of the departed USA ladies had been around a while and may have been looking to cut back or get out of the hobby anyway.It seems to me that there is a pretty steady turnover of providers, aside from BP getting curtailed.
Alaska Tom.
I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.
Chest. Be safe out there.I'm sure you have learned this by now but I always text shortly beforehand to say if agreed time is still ok. If I don't get a response within a certain amount of time I will bail. I also don't travel more than a half an hour tona provider. Some of youndo so you may have other suggestions.
As for your specific situation, I kind of had a similar experience with her recently. Appointment with as at 9, said she slept late and was in the shower. Had to wait until 9:30. Almost left when she said she was ready. Was I annoyed? Yes but for some I can let it slide because her skills are top notch.
Member #5522
03-22-17, 06:02
I always get a confirmation text before leaving g wherever I'm at. As for text vs calling. Texting is the norm. A lot of the ladies don't have a burner phone but rather use a text app like text now.
The lady you mentioned is fantastic. I saw her once and had a toe curling experience. We were set up for a second session days later and she became the invisible woman. Sounds like that is her norm. She later text to tell me of her problem and why she had stood me up. I thanked her for her call and told her I wouldn't see her again. That was a couple years ago.
I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.
Chest. Be safe out there.
OnlyThisTime
03-22-17, 06:19
I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.
Chest. Be safe out there.You have to understand, these girls aren't exactly running professional businesses. If most of them could operate in a responsible manner, they would not be doing this for a living. You have to be on top of your game with them.
If you are driving more than an hour to see someone, you absolutely should check before you get on the road. Hell I text when I'm leaving the house before I see a girl 10 minutes away.
I've had almost zero success with trying to schedule a day or more in advance. My best tactic has always been to just ask if they are available that morning. At least then you know they are awake and responding. These girls get dozens of calls and texts. They don't have secretaries. They don't have day planners. They make all sorts of mistakes.
You can't think of this as a regular business. You can keep getting mad because they don't have the same professional manner as your dentist, or you can change your approach and actually manage to see the girl.
Hillbilly Bob
03-22-17, 12:30
I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.
Chest. Be safe out there.This is normal for her. I have seen her 2 times first when she was UTR and again after she started posting. Tried a couple times after that and got the run around. As others have said always get a confirmation before leaving. If you are traveling very far always have a couple other providers numbers in the same area so its not a total loss even if they were not your first choice.
Freckle Freak
03-23-17, 09:16
"People just aren't that affiliative. Everyone is working an angle, and in most cases altruism is non-existent. While I don't know you, the behavior I see follows a predictive path. You offer yourself up as a savior to these girls, and when they don't respond appropriately, you become coercive and spiteful. Filling pages of the forum about them, mainly trying to punish them. Example here:
The personality type is very, very easy to identify. It's kinda like the "good guy" angle people play, or I see on tinder, how they're a nice guy and they get a match, don't get a response from their "Hey, what's going on?" message, and proceed to say things "your just like the rest stupid ****, always chasing the ass holes". Like lmao, the most contradicting shit I've ever seen! It's unbelievable. This is no different; its borderline sociopathic even- where the guy doesn't get the response that aligned with their intentions, and proceed to be vengeful, spiteful, and malicious in all there intents, in order to get back at them. All while trying to play this fucking card as if they're doing the right thing to help them. No, ironically you're not. If you want to TRULY help them, you wouldn't see a single, fucking, one of these people. Stop the fucking facade, the only person you're fooling is, at best, yourself.
And if you / really / want to help addicts, guess what, there's places that you can do that! Rooms, service centers, churches, prisons- there are plenty of people on the front line that genuinely need help. They have to be seeking it though. Recovery is for the people that want it, not the ones that need it. But I know you know this, or you should if you're this self-righteous healer and prosperity provider that you assert you are. Your motives are spoken by your actions- and going through a few posts indicates your personality type is easily identifiable as the previous fore mentioned "good guy". It comes down to this cycle, that you quite honestly have probably practiced in your real relationships as well.
Expectation. Motive - Unmet Expectation / Possibly hurt feelings (key) - Spite and retaliation to those that hurt / didn't meet expectations. When you wan't to objectively look at your own actions and own part in any or all of this, you can make progression in correcting your behavior, and possibly even attain a zen moment where you're like "Holy shit, I was in the wrong". Until then, stop the childish posting attacking them (and the mongers that are feeding their addiction! Crowning yourself as this savior is so fake and so absolutely appalling that it's embarrassing and not attractive.I read this post and thought, wow this is a good analogy of some aspects of my life. It was well written, intellectual with some truly insightful thoughts and comments. It made me step back and think to the point that I discussed it with a very good monger friend of mine who knows me very well. His comment about it was. "That from an outsiders viewpoint, someone who would read a few of your posts, that would be the normal conclusion of the average reader. However they don't know you like I do and they don't know what you have been through or had to deal with over the past few years. They don't know where your heart truly is".
I then told him what Crissee had texted me earlier that day. I had texted her "I love all the gossip on the Octagon, don't you? I was surprised when she responded, her first response in weeks, with "Yep reading gossip reminds me of the girls bathroom in Jr High. Amazing how spiteful and nasty people get for attention but you got to do what you got to do to fulfill whatever emptiness one may have inside. I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it".
We both reached the same conclusion that it's very possible that this post and her text had some very similar verbiage. A similar analogy. It was also interesting that the monger that posted this has only two other posts in the past two weeks in the mongers in search or thread. Both of those posts could have been a provider inquiry looking for a partner for duos. That being said I really don't know if this is a long time lurker with new posts or Crissee. It really doesn't make any difference either way because the intellect behind the post is good and Crissee has a very intellectual side when she want's use it.
So my short answer to the post is thank you for your insight. Yes I am involved in other organizations that help addicts. I am a long time member of NA and Nar-Anon as well as other organizations that work with addicts in many ways. I find it fulfilling. I try not to see addicts, but as we all know, sometimes it's difficult to determine that until you meet them. When I discover they are addicts, I stop seeing them. However, even then addicts, like Crissee, are great liars and deception is paramount. The key here is am I like the Tinder example. I do play the "Good Guy" however when I get a match and I don't get a response, I move on. The reason is because it's only a simple inquiry, nothing more. Why get pissed at someone you know nothing about. Crissee however, was not an inquiry, when sober, she showed me a side of her that gave me hope that she was on the path to regaining her humanity. That in itself is worth the fight, the posts, the embarrassment of myself on this board. I have nothing to lose but my reputation and that would only be with those that don't truly know me. Yet she has everything to gain if something good, something clean, something positive results from my behavior.
So whether the above post is Crissee or a monger named Eajry. Thank you for the insight it was a pleasure to interact with your intellect.
John HandCock
03-23-17, 10:03
I read this post and thought, wow this is a good analogy of some aspects of my life. It was well written, intellectual with some truly insightful thoughts and comments. It made me step back and think to the point that I discussed it with a very good monger friend of mine who knows me very well. His comment about it was. "That from an outsiders viewpoint, someone who would read a few of your posts, that would be the normal conclusion of the average reader. However they don't know you like I do and they don't know what you have been through or had to deal with over the past few years. They don't know where your heart truly is".
I then told him what Crissee had texted me earlier that day. I had texted her "I love all the gossip on the Octagon, don't you? I was surprised when she responded, her first response in weeks, with "Yep reading gossip reminds me of the girls bathroom in Jr High. Amazing how spiteful and nasty people get for attention but you got to do what you got to do to fulfill whatever emptiness one may have inside. I don't pay it no mind I don't even read it".
We both reached the same conclusion that it's very possible that this post and her text had some very similar verbiage. A similar analogy. It was also interesting that the monger that posted this has only two other posts in the past two weeks in the mongers in search or thread. Both of those posts could have been a provider inquiry looking for a partner for duos. That being said I really don't know if this is a long time lurker with new posts or Crissee. It really doesn't make any difference either way because the intellect behind the post is good and Crissee has a very intellectual side when she want's use it.
So my short answer to the post is thank you for your insight. Yes I am involved in other organizations that help addicts. I am a long time member of NA and Nar-Anon as well as other organizations that work with addicts in many ways. I find it fulfilling. I try not to see addicts, but as we all know, sometimes it's difficult to determine that until you meet them. When I discover they are addicts, I stop seeing them. However, even then addicts, like Crissee, are great liars and deception is paramount. The key here is am I like the Tinder example. I do play the "Good Guy" however when I get a match and I don't get a response, I move on. The reason is because it's only a simple inquiry, nothing more. Why get pissed at someone you know nothing about. Crissee however, was not an inquiry, when sober, she showed me a side of her that gave me hope that she was on the path to regaining her humanity. That in itself is worth the fight, the posts, the embarrassment of myself on this board. I have nothing to lose but my reputation and that would only be with those that don't truly know me. Yet she has everything to gain if something good, something clean, something positive results from my behavior.
So whether the above post is Crissee or a monger named Eajry. Thank you for the insight it was a pleasure to interact with your intellect.If your addicted friend wrote that then she has some pretty lucid moments and apparently sees you in a different light than your close friend. Would probably be a good session for you and the shrink to discuss. Your post do tend to be vindictive and obsessed. If you want to report about someone using report it then let it go. If mongers still want to see them its on them. After your Ursula writing your credibility on the drug issue is suspect. You don't help addiction by taking a person to their pharmacies. As far as this being for principle addicts have none and you know this. If your going to give money to addicts quit crying when you don't get it back because you know its lost. Make your post about known addicts and move on. You might also touch on the drama issue with the shrink. That seems like something that you relish and actively seek out.
CinciScubaDude
03-23-17, 19:50
I have been doing this for 6 months and being careful and picky on who I choose to see I have not had any serious issues. Have some questions for everyone out there.
How often and how much do you tip a provider? Do you tip on a first visit or only after you have seen her a time or two?
I often as the provider if I can bring them anything on my way. Typically it's a coffee or soda of some type which is no big deal. A few weeks ago I stopped at McDs to get a drink for someone. As I walked in I saw a friend of mine, no big deal, I have a good excuse for being where I was. But it got me thinking, to what extent to you go to make sure you can't be recognized or your car recognized anywhere?
I don't monger close to home. But I do have some small recognizable things on my car. Do you take these things off? Or don't worry about it?
I have been doing this for 6 months and being careful and picky on who I choose to see I have not had any serious issues. Have some questions for everyone out there.
How often and how much do you tip a provider? Do you tip on a first visit or only after you have seen her a time or two?
I often as the provider if I can bring them anything on my way. Typically it's a coffee or soda of some type which is no big deal. A few weeks ago I stopped at McDs to get a drink for someone. As I walked in I saw a friend of mine, no big deal, I have a good excuse for being where I was. But it got me thinking, to what extent to you go to make sure you can't be recognized or your car recognized anywhere?
I don't monger close to home. But I do have some small recognizable things on my car. Do you take these things off? Or don't worry about it?It is always a chance you will be seem. My fear is my vechile will get messed with or damaged while I am busy inside. The other thing I wonder a what if situation is. After I meet her and it goes good or bad and pass one another in public what coild happen or be said / or they had a SO with them. As always you never know. Be safe and think with the big head as well.
Velvet Rayne
03-23-17, 20:09
Who left there phone out and about so your fiance could get a hold of it? I just got this message " How do you know my fiance?" First time ever in this hobby for me.
I only have one thing to say, " Gentlemen hide your phone's, delete your messages, bury your burner phone. I do not like to be put in this spot. ".
VR.
BuyingSmiles
03-23-17, 21:32
It is always a chance you will be seem. My fear is my vechile will get messed with or damaged while I am busy inside. The other thing I wonder a what if situation is. After I meet her and it goes good or bad and pass one another in public what coild happen or be said / or they had a SO with them. As always you never know. Be safe and think with the big head as well.I don't think any of them saw me, but I saw them. If they were alone, I may have said something. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate one of us approaching them, when they are with someone. Just as you or I wouldn't appreciate them approaching us.
When Remmy & I used to go to the Race track she'd always say In a whisper, "oh I see one of my clients" she never did anything to bring attention to any of them. I think in most cases even if both parties see each other it will be nothing more than a glance or a smile and that'd be it.
One, that I saw a couple times at the Taco Bell in Cov, was Fantacy Fancy aka Felicia. She has disappeared. Anyone know about her where abouts or well being? She was always super cool with me. Not to mention she could suck the chrome off a Harley. I hope she is well. If anyone knows her contact info and cares to share, pm me.
It is always a chance you will be seem. My fear is my vechile will get messed with or damaged while I am busy inside. The other thing I wonder a what if situation is. After I meet her and it goes good or bad and pass one another in public what coild happen or be said / or they had a SO with them. As always you never know. Be safe and think with the big head as well.That has happened with me and a local provider. Luckily she is very cool and didn't say anything. Smile and move on.
Freckle Freak
03-23-17, 22:21
If your addicted friend wrote that then she has some pretty lucid moments and apparently sees you in a different light than your close friend. Would probably be a good session for you and the shrink to discuss. Your post do tend to be vindictive and obsessed. If you want to report about someone using report it then let it go. If mongers still want to see them its on them. After your Ursula writing your credibility on the drug issue is suspect. You don't help addiction by taking a person to their pharmacies. As far as this being for principle addicts have none and you know this. If your going to give money to addicts quit crying when you don't get it back because you know its lost. Make your post about known addicts and move on. You might also touch on the drama issue with the shrink. That seems like something that you relish and actively seek out.She has very lucid moments, that's the times I saw the true potential in her. Of course she doesn't see me in the same light as my friend because she was caught being a liar and a master at deception. Active addicts hate it when they are caught and called out on their addictive behavior. You see vindictive and obsessed, I see passionate resolve. Ursula was a unique situation, something that most people could never understand. However if you really read the story, you would remember that I admitted my mistakes and my enabling behavior. I never cried about the money with Crissee, hell I even joked about it. Money was never the issue. As far as the drama, well as my friend has said in the past, you have always been the crusader not the pragmatist. I keep him around because he is pragmatic and I keep hoping some of it will rub off on me.
Now here is a suggestion for you. If you don't like what is on television stop watching the same distasteful show and change the channel to something more palatable. The same goes for my posts.
CoriCooper
03-23-17, 23:03
The other thing I wonder a what if situation is. After I meet her and it goes good or bad and pass one another in public what coild happen or be said / or they had a SO with them. As always you never know. Be safe and think with the big head as well.The answer to this, whether you are a man or woman-- is keep your mouth shut and keep on walking. Discretion is the name of the game. There is no reason that we should be speaking at Walmart or Applebee's. Nothing good comes from a lack of discretion and you never know what is going on the personal lives of others!!
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