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JohnGalt10
11-02-12, 15:56
Live and learn, I guess. Just got told "what for" from a provider that was referenced from here to that fancy board that sounds like a race or state. Left my email by mistake and got a reply where all of us here were painted with a broad brush as being less than human. Every once in a while, when things are going OK along comes a reminder of what can go wrong in a hurry and what we are sometimes dealing with. I asked about a meeting and gave my handle on this board as reference very politely. Reply was so toxic I am not going to mention it here or her name. I will never go there again. I didn't know USASG was so hated by some. Got to go sit in a pail of water to put the fire out. Stay safe, JG
Live and learn, I guess. Just got told "what for" from a provider that was referenced from here to that fancy board that sounds like a race or state. Left my email by mistake and got a reply where all of us here were painted with a broad brush as being less than human. Every once in a while, when things are going OK along comes a reminder of what can go wrong in a hurry and what we are sometimes dealing with. I asked about a meeting and gave my handle on this board as reference very politely. Reply was so toxic I am not going to mention it here or her name. I will never go there again. I didn't know USASG was so hated by some. Got to go sit in a pail of water to put the fire out. Stay safe, JGAnytime some some treats you bad remember there are other girls that would treasure you and appreciated the help chin up little soldier.
IslandDreams
11-03-12, 17:43
Live and learn, I guess. Just got told "what for" from a provider that was referenced from here to that fancy board that sounds like a race or state. Left my email by mistake and got a reply where all of us here were painted with a broad brush as being less than human. Every once in a while, when things are going OK along comes a reminder of what can go wrong in a hurry and what we are sometimes dealing with. I asked about a meeting and gave my handle on this board as reference very politely. Reply was so toxic I am not going to mention it here or her name. I will never go there again. I didn't know USASG was so hated by some. Got to go sit in a pail of water to put the fire out. Stay safe, JGJust had a well known provider also blast me and remind me I am just a john, just a walking wallet, not their GF or friend at all.
I mean I am old enough to know the drill, hate being reminded of it.
I contacted a provider and was told they retired, so I said if you come out of retirement let me know, and I got this torrent of what Johns mean to escorts in general, yadda yadda yadda.
Wonder if it was the same woman.
Oh well, lots to choose from, so my money and I are going elsewhere.
Sincity12 says stay safe
Member #4335
11-04-12, 14:13
For the record, I have never complained or posted on this forum I haven't needed to but I was texted by a client and or friend of mine who knew I have been with family due to a Halloween Baby being Born! . So I get a copy paste sent to me and I'm amazed at what I seen. _- Originally Posted by TM*24.
I am glad that you had this experience however, she gave me the run around with her partner Michelle hey been around for a while and both of them are no good. Same story with with Michelle. <-_- Now I don't give people the run around. To say someone is "no good" with out seeing them is more than a person would know if never had any experience with them. I can see where you would assume that but I would think the run around would be a bunch of excuses or telling you Yes I'll get you in an never doing it. I simply said over and over that I was booked. Technically unless watching my house a person would never know the difference. I just wanted to say on here that I put very specifically in my ad that I do not accept black men and I know I never seen this client because after being shown his other posting. 15 posts starting on only October 10, 2012 and we are currently November 4th. 2012 is a lot of money spent on 15 different providers in only 3 weeks time, thats like seeing a provider once every other day! Now out of 15 post the client has posted 11 bad reviews. Picky yet rich? Maybe, doubtful but maybe. I know I never seen this client because one of his post states he is Black. He states he is in his own post As shown here. _- Regular Member. Reports 15- TM*24. My deam is good What is up with all the no African American ads, a bratha got a need too. I'm not going to pay you with wooden nickels, and yeah I maybe a little bit more charismatic then some others, but really my green is good too and I just have needs like other people. <- I am really confused? How does someone say things about people they have never met? Not to mention the review he is writing in reply to was 3 weeks old? I responded by saying the truth, every client deserves to get paired with a provider who is comfortable with him, treats him good and won't scam him. I also think that providers who accept money from a client knowing good darn well you are scared of him or for any reason uncomfortable with him. Just be nice and say I can't get you in. No need to offend a client or make them feel less than. Don't take their money$ knowing you'll do a poor job. But then another client reminded me how it wasn't just said I gave the run around which I always said I was booked nothing more. He also said I and my Partner and I don't even have one! Was NO Good? Now if a Provider made a comment to another provider about a client being say "Aggressive or dirty or Pushy or Violent!" He'd find it hard to get in with anyone because it would ruin his name right? And we would pay the price with a Backlash of things said to ruin our Rep. So why would a person do that? For a client who is known for posting B. S. And more bad reviews than good. They say if you feel like something is wrong with everyone you meet, it probably isn't them!
MollyDaniels
11-08-12, 14:50
Yes I do have high self-confidence. I do think I am incredibly sexy and smart. If I didn't at least think I was sexy, why would I be in this hobby?
When I spazed out in the parking lot about my dog, ummm, like was in the beginning of spring! And no clients were there to witness that. I was arguing with a neighbor that did not like my dog. So the only way anyone would know about that is if I told them the story, which I probably did! If I didn't tell anyone the story, I'm sure I wrote about it on my blog.
Sometimes I wish I was 'looped up' on something when I read this board! It may make it easier to digest.
But to all my haters, keep on hating! I'm not going anywhere.
Just do everyone else a favor-if you don't like me, fine! Just keep your opinions to yourselves, and quit cluttering up the board with useless opinions about providers you have never seen.
As they say in Hollywood, 'all publicity is good publicity'.
Kisses and have a wonderful day!
Molly
MattieFromCinc
11-09-12, 09:08
In any rational universe the fact that I am able to have a sexual experience with a consenting adult only if I pay that adult would be nobody's business but mine. Tragically, this is not the case. Other than the urge to survive, the urge for sex in a normal man is the strongest urge he has to deal with. I have come to the conclusion that legal and regulated prostitution is better than the alternative since it eliminates pimps and eliminates crimes on the client and on the woman.
Feminists like to quote these absolutely specious statistics, a typical trick of the feminist movement of the last twenty years. For example, they'll say the majority of prostitutes have been sexually abused as children. But there's no evidence for this! The most successful prostitutes are invisible, because the sign of a prostitute's success is her absolute blending with the environment. She's so shrewd, she never becomes visible. She never gets in trouble. She has command of her life, and her clients. The ones who get into the surveys have drug problems or psychological problems. They're the ones who were sexually abused. Feminists are using amateurs to condemn a whole profession. This is appalling!
I'm against the harassment of prostitutes. Unless they are actually interfering with people's movements, they have a perfect right to be doing what they're doing."
Prostitution, it is commonly said, is the world's oldest profession. Even so, it remains unlike any other in the stigma that surrounds it. No parent wants their child to grow up to become a sex-trade worker. Prostitution will never be "normal"in the same way as being a dentist of locksmith.
Prostitution should not be a crime. Prostitutes are not committing an inherently harmful act. While the spread of disease and other detriments are possible in the practice of prostitution, criminalization is a sure way of exacerbating rather than addressing such effects. We saw this quite clearly in the time of alcohol prohibition in this country.
I would like the government to decriminalize prostitution but to regulate it in the way that other intimate service professions (such as massage therapists and doctors) are regulated on the basis of hygiene-related concerns.
One thing I would add is that there is a double-standard that permeates the enforcement of laws against prostitution. The prostitutes are harassed, arrested, and sometimes prosecuted, while the johns and often the pimps, who are far more likely to be engaged in violent and master / slave-like treatment of the prostitutes are ignored. This reflects the view that men who traffic in women are not as bad as the women in whom they traffic. If people are honestly concerned about the wellbeing of women in this profession, then they must begin by removing the status of 'outlaw' from these women so that they can come forward and receive help if and when they feel they want to leave a profession that can otherwise be quite difficult to escape.
Even in secular, sexually liberated societies, most people regard the buying and selling of sex as morally questionable, if not outright sinful. Prostitution is strongly associated with broken, exploited lives. Drug addiction among prostitutes is common both as a cause and effect of life on the streets.
So while we agree with those who would call for compassion and understanding for sex-trade workers, we also feel it is important to emphasize that, except in rare cases, prostitution is a tragedy for the prostitute. And she (it usually is a she) should be given every encouragement for their service to us.
Prostitution is the provision of sexual services for negotiated payment between consenting adults. So defined, prostitution is a service industry like any other in which people exchange skills for money or other reward.
Non-consenting adults and all children forced into sexual activity (commercial or otherwise) deserve the full protection of the law and perpetrators deserve full punishment by the law.
Workers in the sex industry deserve the same rights as workers in any other trade, including the right to legal protection from crimes such as sexual harassment, sexual abuse and rape.
It's not difficult for a free society to keep violent crime to a minimum with little intrusion on individual liberty and at relatively low cost. But governments also prosecute 'victimless' crimes. These are acts that (1) are illegal, (2) involve no intrusion on anyone's person or property, and (3) about which no injured party files a complaint with the police. These acts include such things as prostitution, gambling, and drug use. They are activities in which all parties participate voluntarily.
Either individuals are responsible for their own acts including their choices of relationships or the government is responsible for everything you do. There is no middle ground. Giving government the power to outlaw consensual activity allows the politicians to impose any laws they want on you. And they will use that power.
There are some unscrupulous people in all walks of life, government, law, journalism, banking, law enforcement, the stock exchange, medicine, the clergy, prostitution, etc. If every profession were criminalised when some of its members broke the law, there would be few legally sanctioned professions. Unscrupulous people should be summarily dealt with by the law, regardless of which profession they corrupt
Molly,
You couldn't have said it any better. I sometimes wonder why people would rather be hateful than nice or if having nothing nice to say then just say nothing at all.
Keep on keeping on!
MM.
Yes I do have high self-confidence. I do think I am incredibly sexy and smart. If I didn't at least think I was sexy, why would I be in this hobby?
When I spazed out in the parking lot about my dog, ummm, like was in the beginning of spring! And no clients were there to witness that. I was arguing with a neighbor that did not like my dog. So the only way anyone would know about that is if I told them the story, which I probably did! If I didn't tell anyone the story, I'm sure I wrote about it on my blog.
Sometimes I wish I was 'looped up' on something when I read this board! It may make it easier to digest.
But to all my haters, keep on hating! I'm not going anywhere.
Just do everyone else a favor-if you don't like me, fine! Just keep your opinions to yourselves, and quit cluttering up the board with useless opinions about providers you have never seen.
As they say in Hollywood, 'all publicity is good publicity'.
Kisses and have a wonderful day!
Molly
AboutTimeNow
11-09-12, 16:02
Yes I do have high self-confidence. I do think I am incredibly sexy and smart. If I didn't at least think I was sexy, why would I be in this hobby?
When I spazed out in the parking lot about my dog, ummm, like was in the beginning of spring! And no clients were there to witness that. I was arguing with a neighbor that did not like my dog. So the only way anyone would know about that is if I told them the story, which I probably did! If I didn't tell anyone the story, I'm sure I wrote about it on my blog.
Sometimes I wish I was 'looped up' on something when I read this board! It may make it easier to digest.
But to all my haters, keep on hating! I'm not going anywhere.
Just do everyone else a favor-if you don't like me, fine! Just keep your opinions to yourselves, and quit cluttering up the board with useless opinions about providers you have never seen.
As they say in Hollywood, 'all publicity is good publicity'.
Kisses and have a wonderful day!
MollyObviously, the afore mentioned, has NOT spent Quality time or dime, with you! With the onslaught of drama Queens, Kings on this particular site, interesting enough, I travel all over the country, read every review in the city I'm in and surrounding cities, this by far is the worst one! It's amazing that we have the Quality selection of beautiful women that we do, even with the small quasi crazy few, that attempt to be a provider and are found out, usually sooner than later, trying to slip thru, but that the fact that anyone would want to join, for this kind of abuse, makes me question their sanity!
Now, I have personally walked out of Mollys Sin Den, Smiling, Chuckling, weak at the knees, amazed at her beauty and gifted talents, for her craft. So if she appears cocky, stuck up, what ever, Who Cares! This is America, Don't Go! We are receiving, for mutually agreed pricing, in a half hour or hour, for far less than a dating sequence would cost, a No strings attached, sin filled, moral debauchery, while living out our most depraved, pornographic fantasies, that are already on film or soon to be, with no cuddling, talking, or Commitment! Isn't it Great to be an American! Even with all of the mundane BS, going on in our daily lives, we can pick up the phone, call a gorgeous spinner, like Molly, for a couple of pictures of your and my favorite presidents and take out all of the tension, drama, BS, whatever, leaving with a smile on our faces, like we did when we were teenagers!
In closing, after talking to Molly, she is very intelligent and trying to make a living, while having a life, while sharing her gifts with us. If you / we continually piss off the quality providers, what will we have to spend our loot on? Join trip advisor today, bash a restaurant, if you want to write a review, Cause Molly aint on the menu there!
MollyDaniels
11-11-12, 05:12
I am not for sure what the big deal with Buddha is, but from what I have gathered, he is just trying to spread useful info.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
But when you hate on him, all his intel goes with him.
Let's just think with the right head.
Kisses,
Molly
Even in secular, sexually liberated societies, most people regard the buying and selling of sex as morally questionable, if not outright sinful.Mattie, I agree with your observations that governments have no justification to intrude on the rights of two consenting adults to engage in a sexual relationship whether there is money involved or not. I don't see why money changing hands suddenly makes an otherwise legal activity become illegal. If the the exchange of money makes sex illegal, then I guess a lot of married people should be prosecuted for their sexual activities, too, because in a lot of cases the only difference between marriage and pay-for-play is the amount of money involves and the length of the terms of the contract. And if somebody thinks I am wrong and that marriage isn't about trading sex for money, than he or she should ask himself or herself why a divorced spouse gets financially compensated when their marital contract is broken? I think the fact that divorcees get paid by their former spouses pretty much proves that at some level marriage, too, is about exchanging sex for money.
Mattie, I do, however, disagree to some extent with your point that I quoted above. In the past six weeks I've read a few news stories from Europe that seem to show that in some secular societies, selling of sex is becoming more acceptable. One example is a recent story about a school in Valencia where people get instructions in how to perform the worlds oldest profession. Another example was a story from Italy in which a client was refusing to pay a provider, and the provider called the police. Instead of charging the provider for selling sex, the police arrested the client for theft since he had received services from the woman and then refused to pay the previously agreed price.
When I think about police in another country taking the side of a provider who has been mistreated by a client and contrast that with the stories that Crissee and Ally have reported recently about their own examples of being victimized by hobbyists, it makes me want to rant. Thankfully, Mattie has taken the time to post a well thought out defense of hobbying and I don't have to hash all that out myself. The one question I have, though, is how can countries from the "Old World" like Spain and Italy and even Holland be more progressive when it comes to selling sex than we are here in the USA? Is it just our country's puritanical roots that are tripping us up when it comes to considering a rational or humane way of thinking about and dealing with exchanging money for companionship that includes sexual gratification?
Okay men I know you enjoy your female masseuses, but do you KNOW how hard it is to find a licensed or at least someone that knows what they are doing and how to massage. I don' mind going to females, but I prefer a male. I have to have that "deep tissue" massage done, or I am just tight all over again with just a regular massage, so does anyone know of any LMT's that offer the deep tissue?
Kisses,
AllyThAddress:
3417 Princeton Road Suite #127.
Hamilton, OH 45011.
Hours of Operation:
10:00 AM. 6:00 PM Sunday
8:00 AM. 10:00 PM Monday-Friday
8:00 AM. 8:00 PM Saturday
Phone: 513-868-3689.
In the Bridgewater Falls Shopping Center at State OH-129 and OH By-Pass 4.
there are two men at this location Sterling and wiston I have heard that they we good and could do "Deep tissue" and it would be close to ypur incall in west chester. Hope this helps you out.
TMaxxx5324
11-15-12, 17:46
For the record, I have never complained or posted on this forum I haven't needed to but I was texted by a client and or friend of mine who knew I have been with family due to a Halloween Baby being Born! . So I get a copy paste sent to me and I'm amazed at what I seen. _- Originally Posted by TM*24.
I am glad that you had this experience however, she gave me the run around with her partner Michelle hey been around for a while and both of them are no good. Same story with with Michelle. <-_- Now I don't give people the run around. To say someone is "no good" with out seeing them is more than a person would know if never had any experience with them. I can see where you would assume that but I would think the run around would be a bunch of excuses or telling you Yes I'll get you in an never doing it. I simply said over and over that I was booked. Technically unless watching my house a person would never know the difference. I just wanted to say on here that I put very specifically in my ad that I do not accept black men and I know I never seen this client because after being shown his other posting. 15 posts starting on only October 10, 2012 and we are currently November 4th. 2012 is a lot of money spent on 15 different providers in only 3 weeks time, thats like seeing a provider once every other day! Now out of 15 post the client has posted 11 bad reviews. Picky yet rich? Maybe, doubtful but maybe. I know I never seen this client because one of his post states he is Black. He states he is in his own post As shown here. _- Regular Member. Reports 15- TM*24. My deam is good What is up with all the no African American ads, a bratha got a need too. I'm not going to pay you with wooden nickels, and yeah I maybe a little bit more charismatic then some others, but really my green is good too and I just have needs like other people. <- I am really confused? How does someone say things about people they have never met? Not to mention the review he is writing in reply to was 3 weeks old? I responded by saying the truth, every client deserves to get paired with a provider who is comfortable with him, treats him good and won't scam him. I also think that providers who accept money from a client knowing good darn well you are scared of him or for any reason uncomfortable with him. Just be nice and say I can't get you in. No need to offend a client or make them feel less than. Don't take their money$ knowing you'll do a poor job. But then another client reminded me how it wasn't just said I gave the run around which I always said I was booked nothing more. He also said I and my Partner and I don't even have one! Was NO Good? Now if a Provider made a comment to another provider about a client being say "Aggressive or dirty or Pushy or Violent!" He'd find it hard to get in with anyone because it would ruin his name right? And we would pay the price with a Backlash of things said to ruin our Rep. So why would a person do that? For a client who is known for posting B. S. And more bad reviews than good. They say if you feel like something is wrong with everyone you meet, it probably isn't them!I think that maybe, the facts are s little misconstrued. For the record I have never seen Christina because I never got the chance. Michele I saw on two separate occasions and both where not any good. The first time she liked shocked I should have just left but, she invited me in so I thought ok. Big mistake! Shame on me. The second time I contacted her by accident I thought she was some one else. Again shew invited me in after I was ready to leave and I went in and bingo same thing. The site you two are talking about doesn't mention racial preference anywhere. You two would not be the first to post no black men, trust me. I just was reporting on my experience who casts about my experience, other black hobbyist. They get it, just please move on. You are not for me I get it, m moving on.
Thanks
Why now all of a sudden are we getting new providers who are not posting pics and then they turn around and want us to verify who we are? I unstand the saftey of the provider and that not the problem. But when you post no pic and ask for fee higher then the providers that do post pics and have had good reviews. The only thing I say to to the new providers is the best of luck.
SoloHunter
11-17-12, 13:07
This isn't a rant or rave, just wasn't sure to post this. But, does anyone else have a difficult time logging it. Seems like (at least me) it's a hit or miss as to weather I can log in under my name.
Thanks,
SoloHunter
This isn't a rant or rave, just wasn't sure to post this. But, does anyone else have a difficult time logging it. Seems like (at least me) it's a hit or miss as to weather I can log in under my name.
Thanks,
SoloHunterI can log in just fine
BeardlyWizard
11-20-12, 02:27
Dear Ally, you need a website to post all these pics of yours on. You are a damned fine looker. Just a suggestion.
BeardlyWizard
11-21-12, 04:48
Sweetie I have one. It's my name. I can't post it because it gets seen as an ad. But it's Sinful Dream all together. Com Thanks for the compliments hun.
AllyI figured as much. I'll definately be checking it out!
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JohnGalt10
11-26-12, 11:50
No experience personally but will miss the intel. To be in this business for decades and not one run in with LE is quite an accomplishment. Stealth instincts will be missed. Hope he changes mind but if not, happy and long retirement,UTR. JG
In the words of Jim Rome, have a take and don't suck! I've amazed by the boards depth and breath of information if we keep to Jim Rome's wisdom the forum with be a better place any suggestion on where to post on perfomers who have gone south?
In the words of Jim Rome, have a take and don't suck! I've amazed by the boards depth and breath of information if we keep to Jim Rome's wisdom the forum with be a better place any suggestion on where to post on perfomers who have gone south?Just had posted to workinghard about being in the escort only section talking smack about the providers. It like what the fuck you got nothing better to do with you life then come on here and talk shit. And like what he gods gift to women? If that the case why does he come here to this board. But at a loss right now on way to improve the boards.
In the words of Jim Rome, have a take and don't suck! I've amazed by the boards depth and breath of information if we keep to Jim Rome's wisdom the forum with be a better place any suggestion on where to post on perfomers who have gone south?Its like the great lyricist, Marshall Bruce Mathers III, a. K. A. EMIN&398; M.
Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity.
To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment.
One screw up on this board, capitalist or consumer the forum any possible trust diminsishes.
The reason is as honest and straightforward, USA is at its core is about great content combined with earning great references. Sharing openly, honestly and adding value to our experiences with content is far more likely to produce happy returns on our investment in the form of networking, reputation, references and customers than staying closed and secretive. Participation in a ecosystem almost always yields more value than hoarding secret discoveries, particularly when those same secrets are being shared elsewhere on a gigantic, relatively level playing field.
But let's say you're completely unfamiliar with the field. You need secondary cues signals that help you sort the wheat from the chaff. I love watching patterns, this site follows a marvelous statistical pattern which is called a confidence curves, yeah google it if you wish but I will give you the cliff notes version. It basically shows that the longer you are in a group the higher your confidence with members thus potentially the higher the number of referrals.
To boil it down two thoughts trustworthy and untrustworthy. Deception as a rule always leaves clues behind of its true nature. Deceptive self-presentations online will leave linguistic traces in the textual portion of the your messages. These traces include both nonconsciously leaked cues and strategic cues; however, they are largely unavailable to people trying to detect deception, you wasnt to believe in the myth. Where do I think I fall on the confidence curve? Not everyone does and they should. It's just like looking in the mirror or being able to lay your head down on the pillow at night with a clear conscience.
It begins with treating your members as the most important person on this forum. Yet this past day I have had had two cancel meetings with me for today and tomorrow. Yes, the first thing I checked was my breath and BO! Some did not even bother to call they just sent an email. I guess my time is not worth as much as theirs. The time I set aside for these meetings is time that I can be doing real work. So instead I did paperwork today and got on the phone to set up some more appointments for tomorrow.
The best part is that two of these that cancelled have been after me to get them into new clients, tell my fellow members about them Now I ask you, can I honestly refer them in good faith to anyone? I mean honestly! Each time they cancel or reschedule a meeting don't they know they are losing creditability with me! Or don't they care?
Thoughts this may help newbies
Its like the great lyricist, Marshall Bruce Mathers III, a. K. A. EMIN&398; M.
Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity.
To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment.
One screw up on this board, capitalist or consumer the forum any possible trust diminsishes.
The reason is as honest and straightforward, USA is at its core is about great content combined with earning great references. Sharing openly, honestly and adding value to our experiences with content is far more likely to produce happy returns on our investment in the form of networking, reputation, references and customers than staying closed and secretive. Participation in a ecosystem almost always yields more value than hoarding secret discoveries, particularly when those same secrets are being shared elsewhere on a gigantic, relatively level playing field.
But let's say you're completely unfamiliar with the field. You need secondary cues signals that help you sort the wheat from the chaff. I love watching patterns, this site follows a marvelous statistical pattern which is called a confidence curves, yeah google it if you wish but I will give you the cliff notes version. It basically shows that the longer you are in a group the higher your confidence with members thus potentially the higher the number of referrals.
To boil it down two thoughts trustworthy and untrustworthy. Deception as a rule always leaves clues behind of its true nature. Deceptive self-presentations online will leave linguistic traces in the textual portion of the your messages. These traces include both nonconsciously leaked cues and strategic cues; however, they are largely unavailable to people trying to detect deception, you wasnt to believe in the myth. Where do I think I fall on the confidence curve? Not everyone does and they should. It's just like looking in the mirror or being able to lay your head down on the pillow at night with a clear conscience.
It begins with treating your members as the most important person on this forum. Yet this past day I have had had two cancel meetings with me for today and tomorrow. Yes, the first thing I checked was my breath and BO! Some did not even bother to call they just sent an email. I guess my time is not worth as much as theirs. The time I set aside for these meetings is time that I can be doing real work. So instead I did paperwork today and got on the phone to set up some more appointments for tomorrow.
The best part is that two of these that cancelled have been after me to get them into new clients, tell my fellow members about them Now I ask you, can I honestly refer them in good faith to anyone? I mean honestly! Each time they cancel or reschedule a meeting don't they know they are losing creditability with me! Or don't they care?Dude, Jim Rome is an egomaniac! Why would you want to be him?
In the words of Jim Rome, have a take and don't suck! I've amazed by the boards depth and breath of information if we keep to Jim Rome's wisdom the forum with be a better place any suggestion on where to post on perfomers who have gone south?In terms of having a better board, is a satisfactory explanation of why smlqqking at one point this year dismissed Candice as having herpes sores and then later said he'd given her a try and found her to be OK, with a definite suggestion that he'd never seen her before.
And just to be clear here, I do not mean to validate the original accusation regarding herpes, because I have no idea whatsoever whether it's true.
The other question that comes to mind is why smlqqking at times in the past appeared to be semi-literate at best and now suddenly has discovered the ability to write intelligibly.
These are all frankly mysteries to me, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't personally added much to the quality of discourse on this board.
MollyDaniels
11-30-12, 18:31
So are we going back to provider vs. Provider antagonism?
If one provider chooses to run her enterprise in a way that is different than yours, it shouldn't matter. It's their choice.
So many caustic remarks makes me think that business must be slow, and the aggravation is showing on the forums.
Never fear-hopefully we will all be nicey-nice after the strain of the holidays is over.
Until then, happy holidays to all, gent's-go bust some nuts, and ladies, rack in that cash!
Kisses,
MM
HelpMeRhonda
12-01-12, 15:25
Ok I do not normally post alot, but this is something that I feel needs to be addressed. Upon scheduling a client, I asked for a ref, was given a few names, after contacting the women given, I decided to schedule the gentleman to find out later he was contacted by the provider questioning him as to why he was seeing someone else? I have no issues with my clients seeing someone else, variety is what this is about. We are not married and our clients shouldn't have to explain why they are seeing someone new. I have never came across this before, everyone I have ever contacted has been very good about giving a ref, as it should be. No need for our clients to get questioned, if they want to try someone else, in my mind there shouldn't be a problem. Ok my rant for the day.
Happy hunting everyone, stay safe and keep it fun!
Rhonda
MollyDaniels
12-02-12, 03:43
Ok I do not normally post alot, but this is something that I feel needs to be addressed. Upon scheduling a client, I asked for a ref, was given a few names, after contacting the women given, I decided to schedule the gentleman to find out later he was contacted by the provider questioning him as to why he was seeing someone else? I have no issues with my clients seeing someone else, variety is what this is about. We are not married and our clients shouldn't have to explain why they are seeing someone new. I have never came across this before, everyone I have ever contacted has been very good about giving a ref, as it should be. No need for our clients to get questioned, if they want to try someone else, in my mind there shouldn't be a problem. Ok my rant for the day.
Happy hunting everyone, stay safe and keep it fun!
RhondaI totally agree Rhonda-this is unacceptable behavior. If the client wanted to see that provider in the first place, they would have called her first. I have also heard numerous complaints from clients about unsolicited calls / texts to clients from provider (s) asking the client to 'come see them, to make and appointment, etc. ' And I have heard that this is happening to clients that the provider has never even seen before thru pms, emails, etc. First of all, some clients may be married, attached, etc. And do not need to explain random texts / calls / etc. And this is a buyer's market-if that person wants to see you, then they will call. This is NOT a business set-up for random telemarketing-all it does it show how desperate that provider is for business, either because business is slow, the provider is high-volume and extremely money-hungry, or that they have a horridly expensive drug addiction to fill.
Just my rant for the day. Maybe after two rants, I need to STFU LOL.
Thanks for listening.
Kisses,
MMD
Member #4335
12-03-12, 11:02
[QUOTE=HelpMeRhonda; 1611273]Ok I do not normally post alot, but this is something that I feel needs to be addressed. Upon scheduling a client, I asked for a ref, was given a few names, after contacting the women given, I decided to schedule the gentleman to find out later he was contacted by the provider questioning him as to why he was seeing someone else? I have no
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I don't "completely agree". I DO agree that the client should never be called or questioned! That is an absolute! Also I don't think it's ok to contact a client first anyway, only in reply! With that out the way I don't agree with variety being the main reason here or that we should except it in anyway, the only reason I say that is because of health reasons, safety reasons, etc. Personally if I see a client has left a review for every Asian massage parlors grand opening, he will always be told I'm booked, if I see a client has left more than 2 reviews on seperate girls after seeing me, I will also sit him on the back burner. Most client don't give you their handles out but I can usually tell if good detail is givin on a review of me whom wrote it, I also have had clients on this site mention at their nxt visit that a client on here wrote things that he has done in a very unsafe way, they will suggest I not see that client and also thro in there that they won't see a girl who sees the guys who play dirty. Even for girls like me who don't offer full service or massage with no extras, you can't give a massage with rubber gloves on an hand sanitizer only goes so far. But like I said! Every client has a right to choose, an no provider should EVER question a client! I am only saying for myself, an a few clients who have mentioned other clients that there is ALOT of us who don't like the idea of those who can't find a good one an stay there, if the clients needs change or the provider stops delivering the required results, or for clients who have a favorite girl in each field, I do hav a client or few whom I'm their masseuse yet they have a girl they see for needs I can't fulfill, they have a girl in different states they frequent, now obviously this is different. They are welcome to see others on that issue, I also never tell the bouncing client that I'll nvr see thm I only say I'm booked. I would nvr hurt anyone's feelings or make them feel judged because its not for those reasons, it's purely for safety on my self an my other clients. If a client bounces too much in one field an gets HOT, or starts being watched, he could lead LE to a girl who was UTR simply by playing the field too much. But again, nvr question them, nvr judge them, but do look out for yourself. Hope this opinion won't offend no one.
Delicious Dawn
12-03-12, 11:42
Both of you ladies are right.
Desperation does not get you business. It clearly shows exactly what Molly stated. It is Christmas time, things will get slow. If a client wants to come see you, he will. Bugging someone, blowing up their text, etc won't bring them to your door. Advertisement, creativity, sexiness. Those are just a few things that will bring a client to your door. Also, think about traveling a bit. Get some variety in your life as well. Perhaps even get a real regular part time job to supplement your income. There are certain times of the year when hobbying is slow. All of us ladies go through it.
Such as when a new lady hits the scene, everyone wants to try her. It's expected and natural.
Never nag a gentleman. They sometimes get enough of that at home or in the committed relationship that they might be in.
Also, they do NOT have to explain why they are seeing a new lady. Variety is nice. IF they really enjoy you and their time with you, they will come back to you. No worries. They see ladies like us so they don't have to deal with us outside of the bedroom. Nagging them or questioning them about seeing someone else will only do one thing, scare them away.
I've noticed that some providers will make comments as to how things should be done, etc. What's the best approach for one provider might not be the best approach for another. Downing another provider or making comments about how another provider runs her business is just cattiness and uncalled for. We all do what works best for us and if we happen to do things a little differently than another, who cares. It's not effecting your money or business so don't worry about it.
The drama is at times ridiculous. Sure, there are times when I would like to pipe in and say something in regards to someone posting childishness or negativity, but I don't. Why? Well, because it only leads to more drama. It does effect how gentlemen view you and it can be the deciding factor as to if someone will choose to see you or not. So, in the end it's best to just shut up. I've learned that. Or maybe I am just becoming more mature with each passing year. LOL.
Same goes for the gentlemen, if a lady sees you post drama, or unneeded remarks regarding or towards another, we may decide that you are not someone we would like to share our time with. There are a few guys here at usasg that post and based on what I have read by them, if they were to contact me regarding an appointment, I would decline. If you lack respect, or if you are a guy who likes to post anything and everything, you aren't someone I wish to see. Yes, sometimes money just isn't worth it.
Let's all be nice and enjoy the time of giving and happiness.
In the season of giving:
There is a giving tree in the mall for the salvation army. The next time you are there, grab one and go buy something for a child who needs it. Or just drop a small gift / toy into one of those boxes at the department / grocery stores.
I sometimes spend money on ridiculous things and I'd much rather give a few bucks or a toy to a child. I'll feel good knowing I am helping to provide smiles to that kid at Christmas time.
Happy Holidays to All,
Dawn
I totally agree Rhonda-this is unacceptable behavior. If the client wanted to see that provider in the first place, they would have called her first. I have also heard numerous complaints from clients about unsolicited calls / texts to clients from provider (s) asking the client to 'come see them, to make and appointment, etc. ' And I have heard that this is happening to clients that the provider has never even seen before thru pms, emails, etc. First of all, some clients may be married, attached, etc. And do not need to explain random texts / calls / etc. And this is a buyer's market-if that person wants to see you, then they will call. This is NOT a business set-up for random telemarketing-all it does it show how desperate that provider is for business, either because business is slow, the provider is high-volume and extremely money-hungry, or that they have a horridly expensive drug addiction to fill.
Just my rant for the day. Maybe after two rants, I need to STFU LOL.
Thanks for listening.
Kisses,
MMDI also agree I do not save numbers unless asked however I have different code words and such that lets me know whom I am speaking to thru text if on phone I generally just recognize their voice when I give a reference and I have for many of you and I truely am happy to help the gentleman lets me know he needs the reference most of the time. I think a provider should never question a client about his choice of providers I find it classless behavior nor ever contact the client to see them that is messing with someones life and it's wrong. It bothered me that someone had done this so I just wanted to add my thoughts to!
That my dear, is why I stopped taking Provider References as screening 2 years ago. So much drama involved in asking another provider for a ref. When I started providing in GA & AL in 09 (very young and inexperienced) I asked a client for a ref from a well known girl. Called her to confirm everything was a ok, she denied she EVER met him not once but twice. I told said client his reference denied knowing him. He called her on 3 way with me an hour later & told her thanks for the wonderful session, low and behöld she starts talking about how much fun he was and how she enjoyed his company AFTER DENYING she'd ever seen him. I learned that day. PhoneRegistry, Spokeo, Intellius, and Google are all I use for screening now.
Ok I do not normally post alot, but this is something that I feel needs to be addressed. Upon scheduling a client, I asked for a ref, was given a few names, after contacting the women given, I decided to schedule the gentleman to find out later he was contacted by the provider questioning him as to why he was seeing someone else? I have no issues with my clients seeing someone else, variety is what this is about. We are not married and our clients shouldn't have to explain why they are seeing someone new. I have never came across this before, everyone I have ever contacted has been very good about giving a ref, as it should be. No need for our clients to get questioned, if they want to try someone else, in my mind there shouldn't be a problem. Ok my rant for the day.
Happy hunting everyone, stay safe and keep it fun!
Rhonda
In terms of having a better board, is a satisfactory explanation of why smlqqking at one point this year dismissed Candice as having herpes sores and then later said he'd given her a try and found her to be OK, with a definite suggestion that he'd never seen her before.
And just to be clear here, I do not mean to validate the original accusation regarding herpes, because I have no idea whatsoever whether it's true.
The other question that comes to mind is why smlqqking at times in the past appeared to be semi-literate at best and now suddenly has discovered the ability to write intelligibly.
These are all frankly mysteries to me, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't personally added much to the quality of discourse on this board.And what is your problem with me exactly? I didn't not say she had hepers I made a coment that she had cold sores, its not something most would notice I was trying to educate. Furthermore I have had a few dreams of Miss Candy she is worth the apology. I was went to her because I wanted to see for myself what all the white knighting was about she is a sweet lady, and reliable. I was a newbie when I wrote that about her since then I have been robbed twice and had some pimp chase me with a knife. I have more thant taking one for the team and shared anything everything to kep people safe. Your a funny guy, not sure what you have your panties in a bunch for, are you man enough to PM and end this like aman or do you want to continue to flame on the board and waste time and space on the board?
AutumnFromCinc
12-05-12, 01:18
The no-fail move that immediately gets you ready for sex is usually:
A really long, steamy kiss:
When she grabs my crotch:
When she brushes her breasts against my chest:
When she licks my nipples:
What over-the-top move would you like to try?
A threesome:
Getting it on in a public place:
Videotaping the two of us together:
Role-playing:
Talking dirty:
Where's the sexiest place a girl can ambush you for a hot quickie?
In bed, first thing in the morning, even if I'm half asleep: 41. 7%
In the shower:
The doorway, just as I walk in:
While we're in the car:
Finish this sentence: When we're done with sex, I would love if she:
Cuddled up with me in bed:
Pulled me into the shower with her:
Begged for round two:
Told me how amazing it felt:
Rolled over and left me alone:
Approximately how long do you like an entire sex session to last?
30 minutes:
15 minutes:
60 or more minutes:
10 minutes:
Member #4335
12-05-12, 11:29
Why now all of a sudden are we getting new providers who are not posting pics and then they turn around and want us to verify who we are? I unstand the saftey of the provider and that not the problem. But when you post no pic and ask for fee higher then the providers that do post pics and have had good reviews. The only thing I say to to the new providers is the best of luck.I only know of why one person does, it is because of the Tineye website and because she got some bad reviews and is trying to avoid them, she has tried other things but still only gets between 3-7 calls a week an even less actual set up appointmnts, most current clients are those who have no idea where to find reviews or that there is even a such thing and from first time clients which sucks because a first time client who starts off his new hobby with a bad experience will quickly go another route. Also I hear some girls are trying to be a little more discreet because of all the bust going on out there.
Member #4335
12-05-12, 11:41
I think that maybe, the facts are s little misconstrued. For the record I have never seen Christina because I never got the chance. Michele I saw on two separate occasions and both where not any good. The first time she liked shocked I should have just left but, she invited me in so I thought ok. Big mistake! Shame on me. The second time I contacted her by accident I thought she was some one else. Again shew invited me in after I was ready to leave and I went in and bingo same thing. The site you two are talking about doesn't mention racial preference anywhere. You two would not be the first to post no black men, trust me. I just was reporting on my experience who casts about my experience, other black hobbyist. They get it, just please move on. You are not for me I get it, m moving on.
ThanksI'm very sorry I may of jumped the gun? I read in your review you put us together as a partners or team and stated NEITHER of us are any good and I have never met you and thought this was not right to lump us together based on relation. I'm not ashamed of my sister, I just think we go about business in different ways and we see this profession in two different lights, as you can imagine if one is doing something she enjoys an another may not think so highly of their approach with clients will surely be different. Her and I got compared regularly 6 months ago and I was glad everyone got it out of their system. When I seen this and it said I was her partner? I thought how is this when we haven't worked together in over 8 months? You called her "Michelle" and she has only used this name for maybe 4 months if that. Although I felt like I was being accused of guilt by association, I am sorry and thank you very much for clarifying the situation. I did try to send you a PM to do this but when I tried to click your name an pull the profile it says there is no member with this name and all the post say error nothing found so I'm assuming you closed this account and I was forced to say sorry this way because I'm sure your still a member just was done with that name. Thank you again and I'm also sorry you had a bad experience with my sister. She really can be a good person but her life was changed dramatically at only 14yrs old and I truly believe it has affected her outlook on life an men in general, some girls here are not providers by choice but by need as I'm sure you already know.
Member #4570
12-06-12, 16:02
Well, I just had to post this but wasn't sure of the best place so this seems as good as any. I'll add a rant just to keep it on topic:
Something to brag about:
I just sealed a deal with my current UTR gal for all the visits I want for one very low monthly price. We'll see how it goes and if she lives up to it. I am not one to jump around from gal to gal so this is perfect for me. She has the spinner body that I love and she is not hard on the eyes either. Unfortunately she has not given permission to share her info, sorry.
It started as a joke but she jumped right on the idea. I said how many visits allowed for X amount and she comes back with "as many as you want". My X amount was less than two visits with some providers. Today was a good day, albeit a little tiring.
Here's my rant:
Was contacted by an old favorite of mine that had ripped me off twice in the past.
She had gotten married so she stopped our little side thing but had contacted me needing money and said she would see me while her husband was at work. Two days before our scheduled encounter, she asked for the money up front to pay some bills. Last time I fronted her the money, I didn't hear from her for months but I really enjoyed my time with her so I took her over some cash. Of course, on our scheduled day, she lets me know that her husband was on his way home and we would have to reschedule. That was the last I had heard from her.
Then, out of the blue last week, I get an email apologizing and asking for help. Being the sucker that I am I said sure, but nothing up front. So I go to see her and she had neglected to mention that she is pregnant (about 5 months from the look of it). Pissed me off BUT her nipples were literally as big around as a nickel. Seriously, I remember that they were rather large but I did not remember them being this large. And I mean the nipple itself, not the areola. So I went for it. Had a decent time but not that into pregnant women so I probably will not ever see her again. I just "had" to get that one last time in.
-BigBird69
Wanted to post this because I need to rant but to let everyone out there to be safe and alert. A security Guard was stabbed to death at the Hilton netherland plaza last week. I seen and talk to this guy at least once every two weeks. Found out today when I asked another guard where he was and was told. I guess we should be thankful for what we have. If you work or play downtown keep you eyes and ears open. Stay safe everyone.
MassageFreak
12-15-12, 09:50
Making sure they message you on here, then goin thru their posts to see who all they have seen after they give you providers to check on them? Just like with a great provider, some ladies will not share intel on a client they know is the real deal. I would ask for a PM on here first, then research through the site. Plus alot of seniors talk amongst ourselves so if you have seen a senior and you think they have a rapport, simply ask another seniro. If they feel you are legit, they will let you know if someone is cool or not. Hope this helps. MF.
Is there not another way for us providers to be able to verify a client is safe and legit without having to go through a previously seen provider? I have had to contact providers before and I always get no they don't know them, no doesn't sound familiar, or have no clue remarks made back. Just to fuind out later it was the providers not wanting to give up info so the client seen others besides themselves. This is crazy anymore on her any suggestions?
MollyDaniels
12-15-12, 11:31
If your clients' phone numbers are listed in excel, you can easily use the sort function to put the phone numbers in chronological order for easier searching. You can also use the 'find' function to search for a number in your records as well. Of course, this requires that you have microsoft excel and that you are familiar with how to use it.
Is there not another way for us providers to be able to verify a client is safe and legit without having to go through a previously seen provider? I have had to contact providers before and I always get no they don't know them, no doesn't sound familiar, or have no clue remarks made back. Just to fuind out later it was the providers not wanting to give up info so the client seen others besides themselves. This is crazy anymore on her any suggestions?P411, RS2K or Date-Check
Ask the client if you can call him at work. Ask him where he works and tell him you want the main number so the receptionist has to hook you through to his extension or office. Abby Amour up here in Indy did that to verify clients while she was here. You then google the place of business to make sure the phone number matches the one he gives you, then call the number and ask for him by name, not his extension number. If the client wants to see you bad enough (and he will because you're hot) he will abide by your request.
BFDeal
Is there not another way for us providers to be able to verify a client is safe and legit without having to go through a previously seen provider? I have had to contact providers before and I always get no they don't know them, no doesn't sound familiar, or have no clue remarks made back. Just to fuind out later it was the providers not wanting to give up info so the client seen others besides themselves. This is crazy anymore on her any suggestions?
Pictraders69
12-16-12, 08:36
Your disappointing experience with fronting the donation is not uncommon. In fact, I've grown to expect it. Over the years of practicing the hobby, I have become 'familiar' with many fine providers which I have shared adventures with. I have become friends with many, and shared an elevated level of trust with a few. There have been numerous occasions where a provider that I have seen, contacted me in a time of need. I'm sure every senior practicing the hobby has experienced the exact same thing. I have been asked for everything from a ride to work, money to keep the electric from being shut off, adding minutes to their cell phone, birthday gifts for their kids, diapers rent money, groceries, cigarettes, McDonalds, doughnuts and about anything else one could imagine. I have ran errands, painted rooms, installed appliances and provided many other services in areas that I am skilled at, to help a friend, in exchange for future considerations. I avoid getting cozy with those that appear to be 'users' so they are not included in the group of ladies I'm referring to. I wouldn't knowingly give a cash advance if I thought it was going to used to support a habit, although I'm sure that happens many times without my knowledge. These girls often have genuine legitimate needs, and I offered my assistance, as I would for any friend or neighbor that could use a hand. With the friends in question, I volunteered to help them out and they volunteered to provide future service, in a friendly nonbinding verbal arrangement. Unfortunately, they often (as in 99% of the time, fail to follow through in a timely manner and the gift I provided is soon forgotten about, and they eventually fall off the radar screen. I and I'm sure many others, have been guilty of being too compassionate when it comes to advancing a gratuity. I try to help them when I'm able, but after forwarding the gift or service, in consideration of future 'adventures', I have been disappointed 99% of the time. Of the 8-10 ladies over years of practicing the hobby, I have helped with a 'significant' advance (not to mention the countless small 'favors') , every single one was either unable or unwilling to be available when I tried to arrange my next visit and the next one and the next one. A few eventually made themselves available, but asked for additional 'compensation' for gas or to say that their rates have gone up since. I was disappointed mainly because I went well out of my way, often dropping what I was doing to help them when they needed it, not just when it was convenient for me. I was disappointed because they so often fail to show the same consideration of my time and generousity. In order to maintain my composure, I have come to the conclusion that anytime a lady asks for an advance of money, or anything else of value, including my time, to help her out, I expect nothing in return. That would include buying a 'package' deal that asks for the money up front for future visits. It has tarnished my view on the trustworthiness of the word of many of these ladies. In most cases, it has cost them, not only a reliable, helpful client, but a friend as well. So if you choose to offer an advance, expect nothing in return and you'll not be bitter or disappointed when they fail to reciprocate.
Coincidently. I have had three different providers (two in the past 18 months) contact me after having taken advantage of my generousity (and failing to follow up as was expected) , both in need of cash and wanting to see me, only to find out they were well into their pregnancy. I stayed in touch, but not being a preggers fan, I didn't partake. After the baby (s) were born, they asked for money for baby supplies. I no longer give cash or expect anything in return, but, for the sake of the baby, will be happy to drop off formula, diapers and wipes if that's what they need. These aren't necessarily bad people, they just don't do themselves any favors by asking for help, and not following through with their end of the deal.
Well, I just had to post this but wasn't sure of the best place so this seems as good as any. I'll add a rant just to keep it on topic:
Something to brag about:
I just sealed a deal with my current UTR gal for all the visits I want for one very low monthly price. We'll see how it goes and if she lives up to it. I am not one to jump around from gal to gal so this is perfect for me. She has the spinner body that I love and she is not hard on the eyes either. Unfortunately she has not given permission to share her info, sorry.
It started as a joke but she jumped right on the idea. I said how many visits allowed for X amount and she comes back with "as many as you want". My X amount was less than two visits with some providers. Today was a good day, albeit a little tiring.
Here's my rant:
Was contacted by an old favorite of mine that had ripped me off twice in the past.
She had gotten married so she stopped our little side thing but had contacted me needing money and said she would see me while her husband was at work. Two days before our scheduled encounter, she asked for the money up front to pay some bills. Last time I fronted her the money, I didn't hear from her for months but I really enjoyed my time with her so I took her over some cash. Of course, on our scheduled day, she lets me know that her husband was on his way home and we would have to reschedule. That was the last I had heard from her.
Then, out of the blue last week, I get an email apologizing and asking for help. Being the sucker that I am I said sure, but nothing up front. So I go to see her and she had neglected to mention that she is pregnant (about 5 months from the look of it). Pissed me off BUT her nipples were literally as big around as a nickel. Seriously, I remember that they were rather large but I did not remember them being this large. And I mean the nipple itself, not the areola. So I went for it. Had a decent time but not that into pregnant women so I probably will not ever see her again. I just "had" to get that one last time in.
-BigBird69
Trader, your post sounded familiar. Over the years I to have been a sucker to helping out a friend in need with $, only to find it is quickly forgotton until they are in need again. After being burnt twice I believe it best to keep things as you play and I'll reward always in that order. This way my friends always pick up when I call rather than avoiding me as if I was a bill collector. Thanks for a good post.
Your disappointing experience with fronting the donation is not uncommon. In fact, I've grown to expect it. Over the years of practicing the hobby, I have become 'familiar' with many fine providers which I have shared adventures with. I have become friends with many, and shared an elevated level of trust with a few. There have been numerous occasions where a provider that I have seen, contacted me in a time of need. I'm sure every senior practicing the hobby has experienced the exact same thing. I have been asked for everything from a ride to work, money to keep the electric from being shut off, adding minutes to their cell phone, birthday gifts for their kids, diapers rent money, groceries, cigarettes, McDonalds, doughnuts and about anything else one could imagine. I have ran errands, painted rooms, installed appliances and provided many other services in areas that I am skilled at, to help a friend, in exchange for future considerations. I avoid getting cozy with those that appear to be 'users' so they are not included in the group of ladies I'm referring to. I wouldn't knowingly give a cash advance if I thought it was going to used to support a habit, although I'm sure that happens many times without my knowledge. These girls often have genuine legitimate needs, and I offered my assistance, as I would for any friend or neighbor that could use a hand. With the friends in question, I volunteered to help them out and they volunteered to provide future service, in a friendly nonbinding verbal arrangement. Unfortunately, they often (as in 99% of the time, fail to follow through in a timely manner and the gift I provided is soon forgotten about, and they eventually fall off the radar screen. I and I'm sure many others, have been guilty of being too compassionate when it comes to advancing a gratuity. I try to help them when I'm able, but after forwarding the gift or service, in consideration of future 'adventures', I have been disappointed 99% of the time. Of the 8-10 ladies over years of practicing the hobby, I have helped with a 'significant' advance (not to mention the countless small 'favors') , every single one was either unable or unwilling to be available when I tried to arrange my next visit and the next one and the next one. A few eventually made themselves available, but asked for additional 'compensation' for gas or to say that their rates have gone up since. I was disappointed mainly because I went well out of my way, often dropping what I was doing to help them when they needed it, not just when it was convenient for me. I was disappointed because they so often fail to show the same consideration of my time and generousity. In order to maintain my composure, I have come to the conclusion that anytime a lady asks for an advance of money, or anything else of value, including my time, to help her out, I expect nothing in return. That would include buying a 'package' deal that asks for the money up front for future visits. It has tarnished my view on the trustworthiness of the word of many of these ladies. In most cases, it has cost them, not only a reliable, helpful client, but a friend as well. So if you choose to offer an advance, expect nothing in return and you'll not be bitter or disappointed when they fail to reciprocate.
Coincidently. I have had three different providers (two in the past 18 months) contact me after having taken advantage of my generousity (and failing to follow up as was expected) , both in need of cash and wanting to see me, only to find out they were well into their pregnancy. I stayed in touch, but not being a preggers fan, I didn't partake. After the baby (s) were born, they asked for money for baby supplies. I no longer give cash or expect anything in return, but, for the sake of the baby, will be happy to drop off formula, diapers and wipes if that's what they need. These aren't necessarily bad people, they just don't do themselves any favors by asking for help, and not following through with their end of the deal.
Cincyeast52
12-16-12, 15:32
Ask the client if you can call him at work. Ask him where he works and tell him you want the main number so the receptionist has to hook you through to his extension or office. Abby Amour up here in Indy did that to verify clients while she was here. You then google the place of business to make sure the phone number matches the one he gives you, then call the number and ask for him by name, not his extension number. If the client wants to see you bad enough (and he will because you're hot) he will abide by your request.
BFDeal.Surely you jest.
Surely you jest.I certainly hope so. I can't imagine anyone agreeing to this process.
J
Pictraders69
12-16-12, 16:20
IMOHO, anyone willing to give up a real name, work number and extension is too f*cking stupid to ever have his own office, LOL.
And stop calling me 'surely', LOL.
Re: 'Airplane', circa 1980 for you younger noobs. .
Surely you jest.
And yes I will give you my real name, all the other stuff and I promise I won't cum in your mouth, LOL LOL.
H.
Ask the client if you can call him at work. Ask him where he works and tell him you want the main number so the receptionist has to hook you through to his extension or office. Abby Amour up here in Indy did that to verify clients while she was here. You then google the place of business to make sure the phone number matches the one he gives you, then call the number and ask for him by name, not his extension number. If the client wants to see you bad enough (and he will because you're hot) he will abide by your request.
BFDeal.
And yes I will give you my real name, all the other stuff and I promise I won't cum in your mouth, LOL LOL.
H.In the not too distant past a nationally known touring provider decided to fatten her bank account when things were running slow for her, so she and her "driver" began calling guy's offices strongly suggesting that they book an appointment. If the guy chose to decline, she would then show up at his office claiming to be owed money for services and making a scene.
Her antics cost one of my friends his job and it took him close to 3 years to find a permanent position which paid about 60% of what he had been making.
Moral of the story guys is that there are plenty of ways to do verification via a third party. So no business cards, drivers licenses, etc.
And for the girls that object, please remember that quite a few companies have no problem helping LE by providing a temporary phone number to use in a sting.
Ok, I'm sure Ms Karma is quite lovely and all that. But the provider name choice just tickles me.
Every time I see an ad for "Karma" . I hear "Karma's a be#$ch" in my head".
Should I tempt fate?
With the same company but in a different part of the city. And it's been several raises and a promotion since then. How's that for stupid? Seriously, there's got to be some trust formed between a provider and hobbyist and I agreed to do that to verify who I was. Besides, I didn't mind having that hot pussy in my face for the better part of a year. It would've been longer but I found someone younger. She's gone now anyway. Surely, you don't mind bending over backwards to taste the hot box. Not a great sentence but, hey, I had to get "surely" in the post somewhere. LOL.
BFDeal
IMOHO, anyone willing to give up a real name, work number and extension is too f*cking stupid to ever have his own office, LOL.
And stop calling me 'surely', LOL.
Re: 'Airplane', circa 1980 for you younger noobs. .
Member #4335
12-31-12, 05:12
I just want to say, I get some of the most ridiculous Textes and called the nastiest names by other providers, I must get texts on a daily basis letting me know " what a wonderful person" they think I am, but I got a text about a referral and, she was very professional, well spoken, open to questions of my own in return, and most of all! She was just nice and being nice to one another goes such a long way. Thank you Rhonda! You gave me hope here.
I just want to say, I get some of the most ridiculous Textes and called the nastiest names by other providers, I must get texts on a daily basis letting me know " what a wonderful person" they think I am, but I got a text about a referral and, she was very professional, well spoken, open to questions of my own in return, and most of all! She was just nice and being nice to one another goes such a long way. Thank you Rhonda! You gave me hope here, .It seems "professional" goes a long way for both sides of the Hobby! :)
I just want to say, I get some of the most ridiculous Textes and called the nastiest names by other providers, I must get texts on a daily basis letting me know " what a wonderful person" they think I am, but I got a text about a referral and, she was very professional, well spoken, open to questions of my own in return, and most of all! She was just nice and being nice to one another goes such a long way. Thank you Rhonda! You gave me hope here, .Rhonda, a real sweetheart to both hobbiers and providers alike.
HelpMeRhonda
01-02-13, 17:08
Rhonda, a real sweetheart to both hobbiers and providers alike.It means alot that you "Crissy" took the time to post this, I try to treat everyone as I want to be treated and my offer still stands if you want to call and talk, Deadbeat, thanks to you also. I enjoy what I do and luckily for me have came across wonderful people on both the hobbyist side as well as some providers, makes it me love my job even more!
Rhonda
Pictraders69
01-07-13, 03:24
I think I lost a dear friend today. Once again a result of excessive expectations. I won't mention any names because I truly like and respect this provider and want to continue to wish her well, despite our apparent grievence and different viewpoints. It is really unfortunate that when we do things for friends, the dynamics sometimes change. I'll not badmouth her, but it is unlikely that I will spend much more time waiting for her to return the favor. I will miss her, but I'm not sure that she will even know I'm gone? Just one more reminder to myself and others that extend themselves to friends of the hobby, that it's not easy to retain a friend, if you expect anything but disappointment in return.
Your disappointing experience with fronting the donation is not uncommon. In fact, I've grown to expect it. Over the years of practicing the hobby, I have become 'familiar' with many fine providers which I have shared adventures with. I have become friends with many, and shared an elevated level of trust with a few. There have been numerous occasions where a provider that I have seen, contacted me in a time of need. I'm sure every senior practicing the hobby has experienced the exact same thing. I have been asked for everything from a ride to work, money to keep the electric from being shut off, adding minutes to their cell phone, birthday gifts for their kids, diapers rent money, groceries, cigarettes, McDonalds, doughnuts and about anything else one could imagine. I have ran errands, painted rooms, installed appliances and provided many other services in areas that I am skilled at, to help a friend, in exchange for future considerations. I avoid getting cozy with those that appear to be 'users' so they are not included in the group of ladies I'm referring to. I wouldn't knowingly give a cash advance if I thought it was going to used to support a habit, although I'm sure that happens many times without my knowledge. These girls often have genuine legitimate needs, and I offered my assistance, as I would for any friend or neighbor that could use a hand. With the friends in question, I volunteered to help them out and they volunteered to provide future service, in a friendly nonbinding verbal arrangement. Unfortunately, they often (as in 99% of the time, fail to follow through in a timely manner and the gift I provided is soon forgotten about, and they eventually fall off the radar screen. I and I'm sure many others, have been guilty of being too compassionate when it comes to advancing a gratuity. I try to help them when I'm able, but after forwarding the gift or service, in consideration of future 'adventures', I have been disappointed 99% of the time. Of the 8-10 ladies over years of practicing the hobby, I have helped with a 'significant' advance (not to mention the countless small 'favors') , every single one was either unable or unwilling to be available when I tried to arrange my next visit and the next one and the next one. A few eventually made themselves available, but asked for additional 'compensation' for gas or to say that their rates have gone up since. I was disappointed mainly because I went well out of my way, often dropping what I was doing to help them when they needed it, not just when it was convenient for me. I was disappointed because they so often fail to show the same consideration of my time and generousity. In order to maintain my composure, I have come to the conclusion that anytime a lady asks for an advance of money, or anything else of value, including my time, to help her out, I expect nothing in return. That would include buying a 'package' deal that asks for the money up front for future visits. It has tarnished my view on the trustworthiness of the word of many of these ladies. In most cases, it has cost them, not only a reliable, helpful client, but a friend as well. So if you choose to offer an advance, expect nothing in return and you'll not be bitter or disappointed when they fail to reciprocate.
Coincidently. I have had three different providers (two in the past 18 months) contact me after having taken advantage of my generousity (and failing to follow up as was expected) , both in need of cash and wanting to see me, only to find out they were well into their pregnancy. I stayed in touch, but not being a preggers fan, I didn't partake. After the baby (s) were born, they asked for money for baby supplies. I no longer give cash or expect anything in return, but, for the sake of the baby, will be happy to drop off formula, diapers and wipes if that's what they need. These aren't necessarily bad people, they just don't do themselves any favors by asking for help, and not following through with their end of the deal.
I think I lost a dear friend today. Once again a result of excessive expectations. I won't mention any names because I truly like and respect this provider and want to continue to wish her well, despite our apparent grievence and different viewpoints. It is really unfortunate that when we do things for friends, the dynamics sometimes change. I'll not badmouth her, but it is unlikely that I will spend much more time waiting for her to return the favor. I will miss her, but I'm not sure that she will even know I'm gone? Just one more reminder to myself and others that extend themselves to friends of the hobby, that it's not easy to retain a friend, if you expect anything but disappointment in return.I think it is difficult to have "friends" in the hobby. Most of these girls are distrustful (at times for good reason) and have a hard time accepting a gesture at face value. More often than not it is given with expectations.
I have not gone through the experience you have described but have expressed an interest outside the hobby with someone. I have met some of her friends and thought we had some common interests. In reality what we are forgetting is most are here for one reason and that is the cash. Although many are good at making you feel special there is no genuine sincerity in the exchange they just want you to return for business purposes. I think we at times forget this is their business and most people (including me) do not wish to spend their free time working off the clock.
I will say it is easy for me to get confused at times. I have lived my life with the belief: 1 You have nothing to lose by being appreciative. 2 Your future will be determined in a big way by the people you come to know. This would explain why some people keep looking for help. They have never formed proper relationships. It is not all bad though. The truth is I do not want anything but a business relationship with most of the people I meet here. That is the reason we see these girls. I am not interested in a girlfriend. Every night I go home to someone who really cares about me. This is just a hobby, and yes sometimes we want to much.
Pictraders69
01-08-13, 17:48
Your points are well taken. I've had friends outside the hobby that have fallen out of favor for much the same reason. No one likes to feel they are taken advantage of and I always try to give to any relationship more than I expect in return. Unfortunately many couples, families, business partners, and friends begin to drift apart when either partner forgets that they also have some responsibility to see that relationship stays healthy. It seems that it happens more frequently, with those that could benefit the most (like many providers) from long, recurring friendships. She may not know I'm gone yet, but hopefully someday she'll realized her mistake and mend her ways before she disappoints another 'friend', LOL.
I think it is difficult to have "friends" in the hobby. Most of these girls are distrustful (at times for good reason) and have a hard time accepting a gesture at face value. More often than not it is given with expectations.
I have not gone through the experience you have described but have expressed an interest outside the hobby with someone. I have met some of her friends and thought we had some common interests. In reality what we are forgetting is most are here for one reason and that is the cash. Although many are good at making you feel special there is no genuine sincerity in the exchange they just want you to return for business purposes. I think we at times forget this is their business and most people (including me) do not wish to spend their free time working off the clock.
I will say it is easy for me to get confused at times. I have lived my life with the belief: 1 You have nothing to lose by being appreciative. 2 Your future will be determined in a big way by the people you come to know. This would explain why some people keep looking for help. They have never formed proper relationships. It is not all bad though. The truth is I do not want anything but a business relationship with most of the people I meet here. That is the reason we see these girls. I am not interested in a girlfriend. Every night I go home to someone who really cares about me. This is just a hobby, and yes sometimes we want to much.
Member #4335
01-13-13, 06:04
I think it is difficult to have "friends" in the hobby. Most of these girls are distrustful (at times for good reason) and have a hard time accepting a gesture at face value. More often than not it is given with expectations.
I have not gone through the experience you have described but have expressed an interest outside the hobby with someone. I have met some of her friends and thought we had some common interests. In reality what we are forgetting is most are here for one reason and that is the cash. Although many are good at making you feel special there is no genuine sincerity in the exchange they just want you to return for business purposes. I think we at times forget this is their business and most people (including me) do not wish to spend their free time working off the clock.
I will say it is easy for me to get confused at times. I have lived my life with the belief: 1 You have nothing to lose by being appreciative. 2 Your future will be determined in a big way by the people you come to know. This would explain why some people keep looking for help. They have never formed proper relationships. It is not all bad though. The truth is I do not want anything but a business relationship with most of the people I meet here. That is the reason we see these girls. I am not interested in a girlfriend. Every night I go home to someone who really cares about me. This is just a hobby, and yes sometimes we want to much.First thing that caught my attention is saying when a client gives us something we "providers" never take it at face value an always think they want something in return. Man oh man! It feels Invigorating to hear another soul say those things! I'm guilty of just that! But I will say this, I have YET to meet a single person, be it a client or man in general, EVER give something out the goodness of their heart. It's sounds terrible and judgmental I'm sure. I don't think it was givin with the thought of return favors already in mind, I do believe there are good hearted people out here. I just think once they give a person a gift, it seems very innocent. Then if for any reason no matter if the very next day, or 4 months later, if that girl declines the requested favor, although that gift was considered " just that! It suddenly is the first thing that gets thrown in our face. I think when giving a gift some people unknowing DO expect to either be treated better than the others or may expect you to get them in above anyone else, or they expect you to look the other way when they cross the lines on what the provider sets as bounderies. I have tried to learn to say no, no matter how great the gift! We shud try to say, no thank you. I made mistakes where I really did think the gifts are genuinely just a gift, but it never fails! I end up not being capable of living up to the expectations of the gifter, an before I kno it I'm knees deep in guilt, getting the gifts dangled over my head. It's just best to just say no, no thank you. I've lost 4 TRULEY wonderful friends in only 4 yrs. All due to " gifts". We all should remember also, my idea of a gift may not be yours. What makes a gift just a gift? So this is my idea of a gift. A gift is something offered without ever had asked for. A gift is something another person approaches you with an offers with nothing requested in return AT THE TIME IT'S GIVING and beyond! If I asked for it? Or showed interest in it. Thn you Sho up with it, that's a bit if a favor, but I strongly suggest that you make your intentions upon hand over. Some people give a gift that wasn't requested, then after givin that gift, it's been opened an being used, thn you get a text or call saying, hey I'm glad you like that gift, I knew you would I figured hey you scratch my back I scratch yours. Now your left in the position of not wanting to look like a mean or ungrateful person so you go along with it in hopes it all works out. It never does. I miss those people. I'd offered to give back the gifts if I cud just have my friends back, I'm very sentimental, I do get attached easily. Not in a lovers crush way, but in a way where I feel like we are real friends. Not just business, business is the scheduled time. Anything before an after that, if I bother to talk hours with you, text about anything more than a session, your my friend in my heart. But then I too learn the hard way, where we stand As providers, when we cancel or run late, after knowing us for years. We can even be going thru something. But let us not complete that massage or fantasy they are so looking forward to, we find out in a sharp, stab in the heart to bring ya back to reality, we mean nothing to these guys if not on time, looking, smelling great an long as we do the job expected. The worst of it though, we have to force our selves to not care. I don't care what these ladies tell you, it's impossible, we play the role of the perfect professional, we will argue that we never get attached. It's just not true, when you've known someone for months, heard about his life, problems, feelings. You can't help but wonder if they made the long drive home ok, but we are not allowed to call and ask. We wonder how those medical test came back you was so worried about, well we worry too but we don't get to kno until you come back. What if you don't come bac because you went to someone new or an old favorite. Then we REALLY worry! Because we don't kno? All we kno is you left for major medical an we never heard from you again. You kno how we end up finding out your just fine? When another provider calls to check your references. Yup. So please all remember, a good girl wud never tell, never hunt, never ask, but you just can't expect the good ones to not care, they wouldn't provide that caring, emotional or intense session if they can just block you out. Expecting good manners is the most I ever expect. I've learned.
Pictraders69
01-14-13, 15:12
I agree with your accessment of 'gifting' and how it affects prividers as well as those doing the gifting. I for one, don't expect anything different from a provider friend than I would from any other friend that I choose to share my time and talents with. I could see his view as the equivolent of helping his brother move into a new house, but when it's time for him to move, the brother is no where to be found. But your view seems to be, if you didn't ask him to help you move in the first place, don't look for your help when he needs it? The litmus test applied to any gifting and any friendship should be the sincere and unconditional appreciation for each other, and that should include, going out of your way to retun a favor when that friend needs it. I have friends that I have known and loved for 40 years and I also have friends that I've only known for 40 days. I expect no more or no less from either group, but, among other things, one consistant reason why some friendships last for 40 years, is the unconditional availablity and appreciation for each others time and talents. The thing missing from your post seems to be the appreciation of the gifts that cost you the friendships in the first place? I'm not sure if it was an oversight or not, because I really do think you are a caring person, but there was no mention of your appreciation of any of the gifts that were offered? I found it amusing that your perspective focused on your perceived expectations of having to return a favor? You made it sound as if the gifts received were a larger burden than your time or talent? With no mention of what or how the gifts were received or whether or not they were appreciated and used, it's difficult to determine who, if anyone, is at fault here? If they were given and you had no use for them, it would make more sense that there may have been an attempt to solicit 'special' favors. However, if there was an implied agreement, to help you out, that a reciprocal arrangement would be made for something that you either requested or was in need of at the time, I think the gifter might expect to see at least some sort of appreciation, whether it be in the form of your availability, your services, or maybe even a simple thank you would suffice in many cases. You are a good person and I'm sure that you would never intentionally do anything to distance yourself from your clients, but sometimes we do things that hurt other people without realizing it? Perhaps it's not too late to make amends and reconnect with the 4 old friends, if they really were important to you in the first place? Good luck to you, I know you mean well.
First thing that caught my attention is saying when a client gives us something we "providers" never take it at face value an always think they want something in return. Man oh man! It feels Invigorating to hear another soul say those things! I'm guilty of just that! But I will say this, I have YET to meet a single person, be it a client or man in general, EVER give something out the goodness of their heart. It's sounds terrible and judgmental I'm sure. I don't think it was givin with the thought of return favors already in mind, I do believe there are good hearted people out here. I just think once they give a person a gift, it seems very innocent. Then if for any reason no matter if the very next day, or 4 months later, if that girl declines the requested favor, although that gift was considered " just that! It suddenly is the first thing that gets thrown in our face. I think when giving a gift some people unknowing DO expect to either be treated better than the others or may expect you to get them in above anyone else, or they expect you to look the other way when they cross the lines on what the provider sets as bounderies. I have tried to learn to say no, no matter how great the gift! We shud try to say, no thank you. I made mistakes where I really did think the gifts are genuinely just a gift, but it never fails! I end up not being capable of living up to the expectations of the gifter, an before I kno it I'm knees deep in guilt, getting the gifts dangled over my head. It's just best to just say no, no thank you. I've lost 4 TRULEY wonderful friends in only 4 yrs. All due to " gifts". We all should remember also, my idea of a gift may not be yours. What makes a gift just a gift? So this is my idea of a gift. A gift is something offered without ever had asked for. A gift is something another person approaches you with an offers with nothing requested in return AT THE TIME IT'S GIVING and beyond! If I asked for it? Or showed interest in it. Thn you Sho up with it, that's a bit if a favor, but I strongly suggest that you make your intentions upon hand over. Some people give a gift that wasn't requested, then after givin that gift, it's been opened an being used, thn you get a text or call saying, hey I'm glad you like that gift, I knew you would I figured hey you scratch my back I scratch yours. Now your left in the position of not wanting to look like a mean or ungrateful person so you go along with it in hopes it all works out. It never does. I miss those people. I'd offered to give back the gifts if I cud just have my friends back, I'm very sentimental, I do get attached easily. Not in a lovers crush way, but in a way where I feel like we are real friends. Not just business, business is the scheduled time. Anything before an after that, if I bother to talk hours with you, text about anything more than a session, your my friend in my heart. But then I too learn the hard way, where we stand As providers, when we cancel or run late, after knowing us for years. We can even be going thru something. But let us not complete that massage or fantasy they are so looking forward to, we find out in a sharp, stab in the heart to bring ya back to reality, we mean nothing to these guys if not on time, looking, smelling great an long as we do the job expected. The worst of it though, we have to force our selves to not care. I don't care what these ladies tell you, it's impossible, we play the role of the perfect professional, we will argue that we never get attached. It's just not true, when you've known someone for months, heard about his life, problems, feelings. You can't help but wonder if they made the long drive home ok, but we are not allowed to call and ask. We wonder how those medical test came back you was so worried about, well we worry too but we don't get to kno until you come back. What if you don't come bac because you went to someone new or an old favorite. Then we REALLY worry! Because we don't kno? All we kno is you left for major medical an we never heard from you again. You kno how we end up finding out your just fine? When another provider calls to check your references. Yup. So please all remember, a good girl wud never tell, never hunt, never ask, but you just can't expect the good ones to not care, they wouldn't provide that caring, emotional or intense session if they can just block you out. Expecting good manners is the most I ever expect. I've learned.
Buster6914
01-14-13, 17:29
My 2 cents. A gift is just that, there should be no expectation or need for any reciprocation. It is just something the donor wants to do for the donee. A favor on the other hand is in response to a request. Favors should entitle one to expect that at some point in time there would be reciprocation should a need arise. The reality of it though is, at least in my experiences, that a favor done for a provider is generally not going to be reciprocated and should be considered a gift in the mind of the monger. Therefor, if nothing is expected in return there are no hard feelings or disappointments. If at some point a favor is returned consider it a bonus.
There is also a difference in being friends and in being friendly. One should always be friendly, unless you have been wronged in some manner. Friends are rare and valuable, cherish them if you are fortunate enough to have any.
MollyDaniels
01-19-13, 19:52
UGH! I am so sick and tired of all the drug addicts that do not check references nor return my requests for checks.
With a sexual predator on the loose, why do these girls not respond / act like they don't know what I'm talking about?
Are there any providers that keep track and provide references? I know that Silk, Chrissee, and Ally do, but is there anyone else? Please help me out girls.
Kisses,
MD
HelpMeRhonda
01-20-13, 17:28
Molly, I know exactly what you are talking about, have the same problem, if you ever need to don't hesitate to call or text me, I am always happy to give ref for my clients, keeps us all as safe as possible,
Rhonda
UGH! I am so sick and tired of all the drug addicts that do not check references nor return my requests for checks.
With a sexual predator on the loose, why do these girls not respond / act like they don't know what I'm talking about?
Are there any providers that keep track and provide references? I know that Silk, Chrissee, and Ally do, but is there anyone else? Please help me out girls.
Kisses,
MD
So rumor has it, or rather it has been sent to me that you are sending emails to other hobbyists basically trying to ruin my business. What can't handle your own? I haven't bothered you, haven't said one word about you, because for one I am better than that, and two I don't stoop to highschool bullshit, but on this you went too far as to emailing other hobbyists whom might or might have not seen me. At any rate, your antics won't work, so keep trying. If you only knew so much more is going on, and you aren't "on top" like you claim to be. In fact I used to think highly of you, but A you call me out of my name, and B you now do this stupid shit.
I would like to know if you want to be so honest, how many other hobbyists received this very email.
Re: Plan be.
Can you imagine if leo gets ahold of her cel phone?
Credit card, Work place and personal information on anyone who calls her? WOW!
"I have a program that I put each client into, even if they are a ns / nc that lets me know next time."
Ally.
First of all, IF you would screen like I do, you would know that I use a SITE, not anything on my phone, to look up the info. And that is for MY safety, as tons of other providers use this same site. I am sure you have paid attention to the recent events, so we providers have to be very safe. And if a hobbyist has no references, I do verify his number with who he says he is, as well as work references. Also, I am very cautious about what I do, so I keep a database of said info. But doesn't mean it has YOUR info in it. It has a first name and that is it, and expenses incurred. Maybe before you go copying from forums I have wrote in, maybe you would've asked the question of what exactly I use it for.
I normally wouldn't even explain myself on this subject, but I just find it appalling that you would stoop to this level. But I guess your true colors are starting to shine through. This isn't the first email I have gotten. I can post the other one too, because it seems you have it out for me. I have done nothing to you. The transaction we had was a business transaction, but didn't completely work out the way it was supposed to. It happens. I am not God and I know you definitely aren't, so get off your high horse, and leave my name out of your mouth. This was the other email I got. I didn't post all of it but the last line to keep the one who sent it to me out of it.
Your old news here. Must kill you to see you are no longer the big man on the boards and folks won't take your shit anymore. Stick to ally and the druggie bitches.
Again, you must be showing your true colors, but mine are clearly shining on, and I am and always will be a true and honest person. Can you say the same?I talked to B several times and he never once talked about you or any other provider on this board. Not sure who sent you the email or not taking side but I never had a problem with B and having a hard time seeing him doing what you claim.
Well after this posted he sent me an email, and I can forward that to you, and you tell me then if you still believe he doesn't talk about me or trash me. He never used to, but he has been as of late.Well the PM you sent me were one sided at best. Meaning you took selected pm and not presented the whole story. Ok I sure there may have been exchanged of name calling it happens. But yeah I think there more to the story on your side then your telling. Probaly something to do with that party and some problems refering to that.
But to say B just started flaming you or bad mouthing you for no reason. Sorry I don't belive that and that would not be in charatcter ok there are people on the board who either like or hate B but no one here can't say that B does not keep it real and if he had a problem he let you know. You want to foward the email that fine.
You have your opinion, I have mine. Lets just leave it at that. I had every right to post what I did, and if you aren't okay with it, sorry. But I still stand my position. I enjoy spending time with you, and talking to you, but I won't put up with others trying to ruin my business or attempting to. Whether he was not flaming me or not, it doesn't matter. He was sending emails to clients basically trying to get them to not see me. VERY unprofessional in my eyes.
AllyIf you want to leave it as is I have no problem with that. But as you said sorry and I will stand by my position also. I also enjoy spending time and talking to you. And hope to do so here soon. Only time will tell if that happens. But I think was unfair of you to post what you did also.
Cincyfunguy
01-28-13, 21:22
Why is it that people discuss these things, personal arguments, disagreements, airing of personal laundry and such, in a public forum? What ever happened to, if ya have a problem with someone, face to face discussion, or picking up the fricken phone and discussing it? Is it just me, or has the art and ability to have a "real" conversation been replaced with the need to be "heard" by the world? Are we really that lonely? Have we forgotten what "real" communication is all about? Sorry, no offense to anyone intended, just my rant in hopes that we all think about it.
CFG
Why is it that people discuss these things, personal arguments, disagreements, airing of personal laundry and such, in a public forum? What ever happened to, if ya have a problem with someone, face to face discussion, or picking up the fricken phone and discussing it? Is it just me, or has the art and ability to have a "real" conversation been replaced with the need to be "heard" by the world? Are we really that lonely? Have we forgotten what "real" communication is all about? Sorry, no offense to anyone intended, just my rant in hopes that we all think about it.
CFGWell not sure what Ally was trying to prove with her post. But I thought it was uncalled for for her to flame B in the open. And for what he PM some fellow members about how she runs her business. There has to be more to it the that. But I agree ally should have kept in private as B did. You did not see B getting on the boards flamming ally. But I have taken this to pm as long as it stays there.
I heard from three different providers that there is a gentleman (and I use that word very loosely) that is on the hunt for bareback full service. I won't name the gent, since it is hearsay at the moment, but he is a senior member.
I don't usually lecture folks on what they do in the hobby. I have always thought personal preference is a personal preference and WALDT is a concept we should all follow, however, bareback is where I draw the line, because it impacts all of us in the hobby. Being a guy that loves DATY, I don't ever want a creampie surprise, but it goes beyond that.
This isn't just about preference, it is about safety. Hopefully I don't have to provide the medical facts about just how reckless such behavior is. The three ladies told me they all declined. Sadly one of them said this dude became rough and profane when she showed him the door.
Ladies, I appreciate how you have to be careful, discreet, and watch just who and what you accuse people of. If this guy visits you and pulls his manipulation tricks, or gets physical with you, please understand that there are men on this board that you can trust and if you would like, we can form a posse and show this gentleman the error of his ways and if he doesn't listen to the voice of reason, there is always a good old fashioned military soap party.
I hope the gent in question is reading this.
Dude, cover up. If you want to practice bareback, get married, stay monogamous, and don't endanger the lives of the hobby community.
I completely think it is out of be character to pass such slander around I'm sure he has better things to do then trash just one person he has been a very good support to me since my incident and I'm very grateful to him for listening to me when I needed to vent.
WordSmithFour
02-02-13, 18:29
I heard from three different providers that there is a gentleman (and I use that word very loosely) that is on the hunt for bareback full service. I won't name the gent, since it is hearsay at the moment, but he is a senior member.
I don't usually lecture folks on what they do in the hobby. I have always thought personal preference is a personal preference and WALDT is a concept we should all follow, however, bareback is where I draw the line, because it impacts all of us in the hobby. Being a guy that loves DATY, I don't ever want a creampie surprise, but it goes beyond that.
This isn't just about preference, it is about safety. Hopefully I don't have to provide the medical facts about just how reckless such behavior is. The three ladies told me they all declined. Sadly one of them said this dude became rough and profane when she showed him the door.
Ladies, I appreciate how you have to be careful, discreet, and watch just who and what you accuse people of. If this guy visits you and pulls his manipulation tricks, or gets physical with you, please understand that there are men on this board that you can trust and if you would like, we can form a posse and show this gentleman the error of his ways and if he doesn't listen to the voice of reason, there is always a good old fashioned military soap party.
I hope the gent in question is reading this.
Dude, cover up. If you want to practice bareback, get married, stay monogamous, and don't endanger the lives of the hobby community.Amen to all of that!
MisforMaster
02-03-13, 04:23
For the love of everything:
If you make an appointment at 2, please be here (if you're doing outcall) before 2:10.
If you can't make it, just apologize and say,"Maybe next time," and I'd have no issues with it.
Blowing my burner up because you're an hour+ late and I'm not answering a door (that I'm not even at, mind you. I left when you were 30 minutes late and not responding to my texts / calls) just makes me turn the damn thing off and adding your number to the "Do not answer ever" entry in that phone's address book.
Hell, if anyone realizes that shit happens, it's me. Fuck, I've been late for my own appointments before, but, I've always called, apologized, given them an opportunity to cancel with no hard feelings, and then tip well for being someone who wasn't mindful of their time. If you're not going to show me even a bit of the same courtesy that I show everyone else, then you're not worth my time, or my money.
That is all.
I heard from three different providers that there is a gentleman (and I use that word very loosely) that is on the hunt for bareback full service. I won't name the gent, since it is hearsay at the moment, but he is a senior member.
I don't usually lecture folks on what they do in the hobby. I have always thought personal preference is a personal preference and WALDT is a concept we should all follow, however, bareback is where I draw the line, because it impacts all of us in the hobby. Being a guy that loves DATY, I don't ever want a creampie surprise, but it goes beyond that.
This isn't just about preference, it is about safety. Hopefully I don't have to provide the medical facts about just how reckless such behavior is. The three ladies told me they all declined. Sadly one of them said this dude became rough and profane when she showed him the door.
Ladies, I appreciate how you have to be careful, discreet, and watch just who and what you accuse people of. If this guy visits you and pulls his manipulation tricks, or gets physical with you, please understand that there are men on this board that you can trust and if you would like, we can form a posse and show this gentleman the error of his ways and if he doesn't listen to the voice of reason, there is always a good old fashioned military soap party.
I hope the gent in question is reading this.
Dude, cover up. If you want to practice bareback, get married, stay monogamous, and don't endanger the lives of the hobby community.Amen to this!
LeftyGolfer
02-07-13, 09:23
Just wanted to thank you all, as I am new to USA and new to the hobby I have learned alot from your posts. I have been able to see a few of the young ladies and will write a post when I feel a little more comfortable. Thanks to all for the information.
Leftygolfer
Member #4335
02-08-13, 02:22
UGH! I am so sick and tired of all the drug addicts that do not check references nor return my requests for checks.
With a sexual predator on the loose, why do these girls not respond / act like they don't know what I'm talking about?
Are there any providers that keep track and provide references? I know that Silk, Chrissee, and Ally do, but is there anyone else? Please help me out girls.I don't know about everyone, but there has to be more than just me, I'm licensed a few yrs but in salon, advertised only this yr so a lot is new to me. The very first month I took BP or CL list clients a lot of them would text me saying hello here are my references, plse check them quickly as I'd like to get in. I was really nervous calling an texting any of these girls, I didn't even kno what I was cross checking? Also as soon as my reviews hit, I got a ton of really nasty texts an emails calling me names. So the last thing I wanted to do was call some of those same girls an ask anything! So I didn't. I just followed a strict thing given to me from clients who are educated personally on what a cop has to get you to do or say " not that I needed it, I don't do anything." it didn't help with the crazies though. Then last month I got a great surprise. I was texted by Rhonda. She was polite an needing a reference on a client. I was scared to answer because it was sooo well set in my head from clients to never ever ever mention anything from sessions to anyone else period!
I didn't want to give anything personal out on my private clients, in my head these are my babies! They trust me! So I called the client first. I said Rhonda was asking things, is it ok to answer that. An one right after another said, yea sure, oh yea that's fine, yep please do tell her what ever she asks, yes an thank you Christina! So now, I may not call every single client Frst now, but maybe those other girls don't know if their allowed? Also it's hard to give reff on some clients, they don't like you keeping their info at all. Just my food for thought an now that you have be out the importance to everyone's attention, hopefully it will change, if I'd a seen something like this, I would of coropperated sooner.
MollyDaniels
02-19-13, 16:09
So, seriously, I think I really need to read the urban dictionary (www.urbandictionary.com) from start to finish.
As you may know, I am a snowboarder, and I have been using the term 'snowbunny' quite frequently to describe myself. I even got a little jealous when I saw other girls using it. But, anyway, ladies and gents, here's the word of the day.
.SNOWBUNNY.
Hot white girls who like black guys.
A female prostitute addicted to snorting cocaine.
And various other derogatory definitions. CRAP! I feel like an idiot-haha-laugh at me.
Anyway, luckily some nice hobbyiest on the east coast pointed out the definition for me.
Hope this gives someone a laugh today.
Kisses,
Molly Mae
MollyDaniels
02-20-13, 13:39
The kicker was the pm that I got asking me if I only saw african american men (before I learned the definition of 'snowbunny') or white men as well.
I was like, WTH? I don't post that I don't see black men, but I was wondering why they would think I ONLY saw black men.
Yeah, it was hilarious-I am the first one to laugh at me haha.
Just goes to show you that you can learn a bunch of never-needed information from this hobby haha. Like when I was asked about watersports, and I replied, yeah, I like water-skiing!
Anderson74
02-20-13, 18:49
So, seriously, I think I really need to read the urban dictionary (
www.urbandictionary.com
) from start to finish.
As you may know, I am a snowboarder, and I have been using the term 'snowbunny' quite frequently to describe myself. I even got a little jealous when I saw other girls using it. But, anyway, ladies and gents, here's the word of the day.
SNOWBUNNY.
Hot white girls who like black guys.
A female prostitute addicted to snorting cocaine.I can see the second one. But the first? I don't see how that correlates to snow bunny. Usually I can make sense of Urban Dictionary, but that one's a bit off to me.
SNOWBUNNY.
Hot white girls who like black guys.
A female prostitute addicted to snorting cocaine.
And various other derogatory definitions. CRAP! I feel like an idiot-haha-laugh at me.
Anyway, luckily some nice hobbyiest on the east coast pointed out the definition for me.Well, it made me snicker a little. I can remember in the '80s, some black men referring to hot white girls as "snow", if not with the rodent appellation.
/z
I read so much through the boards where different people want to sit behind their computers and try speak that majority all providers are on some sort of drugs or another. I myself am not and do not do what I do for drugs. I do what I'd do because I enjoy it and because I have bills and a home to keep up with monthly as well. While I do what I do as a hobby I'm also looking for a job in search whether it be fulltime or just part time.
Also just a reminder and friendly key of advice for some providers in the hobby. I like to be on safe side when referencing my clients as I'm sure the rest of the providers would. I find it odd though on majority when I contact a few providers to reference through and all they can say is they do not remember if they know the client or number or not. I do not know if you choose to be that way because you feel you are loosing business or if its because you really do not. However key of advice is if you want to continue to be on safe side and help other providers be safe then START remembering clients and keeping track of names and numbers because I surely do. I also do not have a problem to ever be of help verifying a client because I do understand clients want to experience different providers, that is their right. Its not on me to choose not to verify out of being mad I would loose business. I give that respect to all providers so I would expect the same in return. I have heard numerous times from different people providers are complaining of their clients seeing certain people and not them. Grow up its a hobby business and clients can see whom they want it is their decision not ours to make for them or try stop them. All that will cause is for those providers doing just that to loose business being that way.
HelpMeRhonda
03-09-13, 09:02
I read so much through the boards where different people want to sit behind their computers and try speak that majority all providers are on some sort of drugs or another. I myself am not and do not do what I do for drugs. I do what I'd do because I enjoy it and because I have bills and a home to keep up with monthly as well. While I do what I do as a hobby I'm also looking for a job in search whether it be fulltime or just part time.
Also just a reminder and friendly key of advice for some providers in the hobby. I like to be on safe side when referencing my clients as I'm sure the rest of the providers would. I find it odd though on majority when I contact a few providers to reference through and all they can say is they do not remember if they know the client or number or not. I do not know if you choose to be that way because you feel you are loosing business or if its because you really do not. However key of advice is if you want to continue to be on safe side and help other providers be safe then START remembering clients and keeping track of names and numbers because I surely do. I also do not have a problem to ever be of help verifying a client because I do understand clients want to experience different providers, that is their right. Its not on me to choose not to verify out of being mad I would loose business. I give that respect to all providers so I would expect the same in return. I have heard numerous times from different people providers are complaining of their clients seeing certain people and not them. Grow up its a hobby business and clients can see whom they want it is their decision not ours to make for them or try stop them. All that will cause is for those providers doing just that to loose business being that way.Hon, I know it is very frustrating to see comments about providers being on drugs and doing what we do for drugs, yes some of us do what we do because we not only enjoy it, but hey it pays the bills, I for one am not on any drugs either but the comments are easily ignored, I know as well as my friends I have met along the way know I am no dope addict, so the comments mean nothing to me.
I get the frustration on references also, as I have ranted as well as other providers that do provide ref have also on this same topic. I won't name names on the girls that don't give ref in fear of losing "their" client, not my style but the guys know, and in the long run it hurts them more than it does anyone else. I know the ladies that do provide ref and have no fear, they know variety can be what some men are looking for, others may want one female they can relate to and feel comfortable with, to each their own. I always provide ref, always have and never had a problem with it, remember hon not all females in this business are secure enough with themselves nor their business to know giving a ref isn't going to destroy them if they are doing things right, its about being safe and ref help keep not only us but the men safe as well. Everyone needs to remember that!
As always stay safe and keep it fun,
Rhonda
MollyDaniels
03-09-13, 11:10
If drugs weren't so intricately tied to this hobby, it would be legal. Which sucks for the ones who don't have an 'early death' habit to feed.
And, if this was legal, us girls would not have to rely so much on provider references. I am usually very good about saving phone #s, but every once in a while I do forget-hell, we are all human. That's why I ask for at least 2 refs, that way if one forgets then hopefully the other ref won't.
What really irks me is providers that I have never even heard of contacting me, and then grilling me for specific details about my client and his sessions. Seriously? I'm not telling you how big his cock is, if he cums quick, if he takes the whole hour, etc. I'm sorry, but I feel my clients do have the right to a little bit of privacy and discretion. Don't get me wrong-if something bad happened with the client, I will be sure to relay that info.
Users who post this kind of drama should be put in time out for 60 days from the board.
So rumor has it, or rather it has been sent to me that you are sending emails to other hobbyists basically trying to ruin my business. What can't handle your own? I haven't bothered you, haven't said one word about you, because for one I am better than that, and two I don't stoop to highschool bullshit, but on this you went too far as to emailing other hobbyists whom might or might have not seen me. At any rate, your antics won't work, so keep trying. If you only knew so much more is going on, and you aren't "on top" like you claim to be. In fact I used to think highly of you, but A you call me out of my name, and B you now do this stupid shit.
I would like to know if you want to be so honest, how many other hobbyists received this very email.
Re: Plan be.
Can you imagine if leo gets ahold of her cel phone?
Credit card, Work place and personal information on anyone who calls her? WOW!
"I have a program that I put each client into, even if they are a ns / nc that lets me know next time."
Ally.
First of all, IF you would screen like I do, you would know that I use a SITE, not anything on my phone, to look up the info. And that is for MY safety, as tons of other providers use this same site. I am sure you have paid attention to the recent events, so we providers have to be very safe. And if a hobbyist has no references, I do verify his number with who he says he is, as well as work references. Also, I am very cautious about what I do, so I keep a database of said info. But doesn't mean it has YOUR info in it. It has a first name and that is it, and expenses incurred. Maybe before you go copying from forums I have wrote in, maybe you would've asked the question of what exactly I use it for.
I normally wouldn't even explain myself on this subject, but I just find it appalling that you would stoop to this level. But I guess your true colors are starting to shine through. This isn't the first email I have gotten. I can post the other one too, because it seems you have it out for me. I have done nothing to you. The transaction we had was a business transaction, but didn't completely work out the way it was supposed to. It happens. I am not God and I know you definitely aren't, so get off your high horse, and leave my name out of your mouth. This was the other email I got. I didn't post all of it but the last line to keep the one who sent it to me out of it.
Your old news here. Must kill you to see you are no longer the big man on the boards and folks won't take your shit anymore. Stick to ally and the druggie bitches.
Again, you must be showing your true colors, but mine are clearly shining on, and I am and always will be a true and honest person. Can you say the same?
I hope this post goes in the right area for newbs to say hi.
I was on BestGFE when I was in Jersey, have lived in Cincy area for about 4 years now.
I'm 40, disabled, a part-time hobbyist and have had the pleasure of meeting several gals from DD of D. (B is awesome to deal with on the phone / screening process)
I have met w / Brianna now from R2U, (Very beautiful but also very much aware of it.) and met up with AmR a month back and had a really great time.
I'm pretty much in the know on where to look for what so don't need to bug anyone for this or that, just wanted to say hi and also thanks to the ladies.
Of the Cincy area for being able to look past the wheelchair. Cheers.
PS, I hope the abbreviations aren't a pain to follow. Never sure how much to spell out. Better to be a little obscure IMHO.
Delicious Dawn
03-11-13, 13:59
I do not accept this type of behavior.
If I make a scheduled appointment with you, please have the courtesy of showing up.
Today I scheduled with a gentleman who had good references and checked out.
23 minutes after said appointment time he sends me a text saying that the area was too hot. Apparently he seen a cop a block away. What a bs lame excuse.
I told him that he need not ever contact me again. I do not accept this type of behavior and it isn't tolerated.
I will put his handle name / number on any black listed site and will inform the ladies of any gentleman who plays such games with me.
We take time to schedule appt's. We get sitters (some of us) that we must pay. We turn away other appointments. Only to have someone cancel or not show up. It is frustrating and unacceptable.
I will not ever correspond with anyone who does this. You go into the Do Not Answer log.
Please, everyone, be courteous or do not schedule at all.
Thank you, O,
Dawn
SindeSeduction
03-12-13, 13:31
That sucks,
I have had the same thing happen to me the last few days. These guys infuriate me at times!
Hang in sister!
I do not accept this type of behavior.
If I make a scheduled appointment with you, please have the courtesy of showing up.
Today I scheduled with a gentleman who had good references and checked out.
23 minutes after said appointment time he sends me a text saying that the area was too hot. Apparently he seen a cop a block away. What a bs lame excuse.
I told him that he need not ever contact me again. I do not accept this type of behavior and it isn't tolerated.
I will put his handle name / number on any black listed site and will inform the ladies of any gentleman who plays such games with me.
We take time to schedule appt's. We get sitters (some of us) that we must pay. We turn away other appointments. Only to have someone cancel or not show up. It is frustrating and unacceptable.
I will not ever correspond with anyone who does this. You go into the Do Not Answer log.
Please, everyone, be courteous or do not schedule at all.
Thank you, O,
DawnDarlin,
First, your PM box is full, and you may want to purge. I did not realize you were ready to do new sessions with your recent strained back. Why didn't you give me a heads up if you were ready to see clients, especially given that some jackwagon cancelled on you? You know I would have dropped whatever I am doing to take his place. Are you ready to go?
-PD
Anyway, touch base when you can. I have a hectic travel schedule for the second part of March, but is some idiot backs out on you, I will pinch hit, if I am in town.
Take care,
PD
OK, thinking out loud here but also seeking opinions. If I have it right, for $130 a year you are "verified," and are sometimes available for discounts, depending on the provider.
So, if you are a part-time hobbyist living in a low-traffic area, you pay the same amount as a full-time monger in NYC. That seems a rather obvious disparity in value.
I'm thinking of saving my money, and slowly just build my references. (I have one agency ref and one independent.) If you don't travel / monger cross country, can someone let me know what else I might not be considering? Sorry if this is a topic beaten to death, don't kill the newb.
Or maybe not.
By the way that should read,"The the or Nyet." I don't know why the word filter. I'm crippled not retarded.
OK, thinking out loud here but also seeking opinions. If I have it right, for $130 a year you are "verified," and are sometimes available for discounts, depending on the provider.
So, if you are a part-time hobbyist living in a low-traffic area, you pay the same amount as a full-time monger in NYC. That seems a rather obvious disparity in value.
I'm thinking of saving my money, and slowly just build my references. (I have one agency ref and one independent.) If you don't travel / monger cross country, can someone let me know what else I might not be considering? Sorry if this is a topic beaten to death, don't kill the newb.
Random musing: I love doing it, but I never ask for it because I think it makes me look like an asshole. I know some of you hobbyists will shred me for that."Aw, its your money, at least ask for what you want", and that's fair, but this is just one of those things where I feel downright bad about it for whatever reason. (That is, bad about asking for it, not about wanting to do it). I guess it just strikes me as an outrageous request (for some obvious reasons). Am I alone in this?
ShellyNineteen
03-20-13, 11:58
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And finally,
Blah
Caligulaxxx
03-20-13, 13:56
Random musing: I love doing it, but I never ask for it because I think it makes me look like an asshole. I know some of you hobbyists will shred me for that."Aw, its your money, at least ask for what you want", and that's fair, but this is just one of those things where I feel downright bad about it for whatever reason. (That is, bad about asking for it, not about wanting to do it). I guess it just strikes me as an outrageous request (for some obvious reasons). Am I alone in this?Some ladies like it
Some ladies like itAware, but few advertise it, it seems, at least among the ladies who place ads here (again, understandably so) , hence my issue. Weird hangup for a monger, I know.
I think the Admins might be busy with full time careers, hence the delay in the screening process.
BTW are my refrences not holding up or is the fact I'm in a wheelchair that's a dealbreaker Shelley?
It's crazy that when I post an ad that it took 16 hours before it was up? I can understand an hour or two but to post an ad at 8pm and it can't be seen til noon the next day is rediculous!
Has anyone had this problem?
It's crazy that when I post an ad that it took 16 hours before it was up? I can understand an hour or two but to post an ad at 8pm and it can't be seen til noon the next day is rediculous!
Has anyone had this problem?That is out-fucking-rageous especially considering the cost of the ads. Oh wait the ads are free.
I'm in South America and the internet was down at the Monger Mansion for 10 hours yesterday.
Shut your pie hole, and post 'I'm sorry and thank you for giving me free ads, ' ten times or I'm banning your User Name.
No I'm not kidding,
A2
ShellyNineteen
03-26-13, 20:14
That is out-fucking-rageous especially considering the cost of the ads. Oh wait the ads are free.
I'm in South America and the internet was down at the Monger Mansion for 10 hours yesterday.
Shut your pie hole, and post 'I'm sorry and thank you for giving me free ads, ' or I'm banning your User Name.
No I'm not kidding,
A2Ty for the ads Jackson I did not mean to offend you! Just didn't know why it was taking so long to post
I have read a few recent disgruntled reviews and General Reports that makes me wonder if some senior member tutelage might come in handy.
1) If you are blessed with the ability to recover quickly and manage more than one pop in a session than most of us, don't book a HHR session, as most women, provider or not, will view 30 minutes or less of sex as a "slam, bam, thank you mam" encounter. If you really are capable of getting multiple pops in 15 minutes or less, be clear, without being profane in your communication with a provider that you are seeking such a session.
2) If you want a GFE, put some effort into your session or roll the dice that your donation is strictly a YMMMV session. Providers are women, first and foremost, and yes, our donation should buy us some measure of our dreams, but a little foreplay or romance will stoke the fire and get get you a high ROI.
3) Tips are great, but believe it or not, most providers are human beings and a thoughtful gift or act of kindness goes a long way. Obviously, if it is an incall, you need to be careful what you carry in, but a box of chocolates, a candle or some other small token will do wonders. If it is an outcall, you can get more creative.
4) Personal Hygiene goes a long way. If you smell like a goat, have cheese crotch, or have the grooming of a Yeti down below, no amount of money is going to help even if the provider is an academy award level actress. Take a friggin shower, use soap, and brush and floss.
5) Try some foreplay. Read a book, Google the word, watch a romantic porn instead of gonzo fetish stuff and learn how to seduce a woman. Take it from a fat, ugly guy, if you know your way around a woman's body, civilian or pro, you get what you put into an encounter. If you can learn how to give a decent massage, caress a woman's body, eat pussy with a modicum of knowledge, it is is just as good as money. Yes, they are in this for business, but if they enjoy the session as much as you do, guess what, your Benjamins are worth more than the other guy's Benjamins all things being equal.
6) Don't be an asshole. That means, show up on time, don't text them 14 times a day and jackoff while you interact with them, or fifty other ways to piss off a provider. Ask whoever your regular is to instruct you and she will fill you in on the tire-kicking shit that gets on most women's nerves, and sets a bad impression before you ever walk in the door and lay that donation on the dresser.
To quote Sean Connery:
"Here endeth the lesson."
TexasMonger
03-28-13, 19:20
Guys.
I have a curious question, with all these providers posting tons of pictures and ads daily, one might think tha the price of pussy would go down due to the fierce competition and plenty of supply. Also you might think that these providers are always finding ways to improve there services to stay one notch ahead of the competition. Is this the case here?
Honestly, I like to browse through the pictures and frankly as of late I'm getting sick and tired of seeing the same faces again and again. Now if all are nice to look at it is great, but damn, some are truly nauseating.
Cheers.
TM
Guys.
I have a curious question, with all these providers posting tons of pictures and ads daily, one might think tha the price of pussy would go down due to the fierce competition and plenty of supply. Also you might think that these providers are always finding ways to improve there services to stay one notch ahead of the competition. Is this the case here?
Honestly, I like to browse through the pictures and frankly as of late I'm getting sick and tired of seeing the same faces again and again. Now if all are nice to look at it is great, but damn, some are truly nauseating.
Cheers.
TMTM,
I travel pretty extensively, and let me tell you, I am always happy to come home to the Queen City. We have some of the hottest ladies and the most reasonable prices you will find anywhere in the country.
The median price range is $175 for a one hour session with a chick that is hot, and more importantly extremely talented. In fact the current hottest gal is $150HR, and the next best three and there really is not a drop off in talent or looks, is $200, so I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Given my job, I travel up and down the I-75 / I-71 corridor from Michigan to Florida, and also fly out west regularly, and for a merely average gal, you are starting at $250 to $300 in any other market, and upwarda of $400 to $500 in say Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Chicago or LA. Of course, Cincinnati also has one of the lowest Cost of Living indexes in the country, so the lower rates are at fair market value, so exactly what more competition do you want? The prices here are VERY fair.
As yo your complaint about "nauseating" provider pics, does your cursor not work? Nobody forces you to peruse the ad section.
PD
Member #4505
03-29-13, 11:39
Has anyone actually ever met her in person? I have contacted her several times and continually get the runaround.
HuntLadys29
03-29-13, 12:27
Guys.
I have a curious question, with all these providers posting tons of pictures and ads daily, one might think tha the price of pussy would go down due to the fierce competition and plenty of supply. Also you might think that these providers are always finding ways to improve there services to stay one notch ahead of the competition. Is this the case here?
Honestly, I like to browse through the pictures and frankly as of late I'm getting sick and tired of seeing the same faces again and again. Now if all are nice to look at it is great, but damn, some are truly nauseating.
Cheers.
TMThere is a price difference all over the tri state area for instance street walkers have their prices Craigslist girls and chat line are a little more than SW then the girls on ussg prices are a little lower than backpage girls. Also if you notice the girls on ussg will very the price due to weather big sporting events or if business is slow. And as far as the girls that aren't lookers I think they know I mean I'm sure they look in the mirror everyday and they set their price accordingly, now that doesn't mean that some girls don't have an over inflated opinion of themselves but for the most part girls set the price on what they're reasonably sure they can get. And as far as girls that are in your opinion nauseating they may not be nauseating to the next man or they might be just what that guy is looking for also you know what they say nobody fucks and sucks better than a fat girl except an ugly girl. Be safe man I'm out
TexasMonger
03-29-13, 15:56
TM,
I travel pretty extensively, and let me tell you, I am always happy to come home to the Queen City. We have some of the hottest ladies and the most reasonable prices you will find anywhere in the country.
The median price range is $175 for a one hour session with a chick that is hot, and more importantly extremely talented. In fact the current hottest gal is $150HR, and the next best three and there really is not a drop off in talent or looks, is $200, so I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Given my job, I travel up and down the I-75 / I-71 corridor from Michigan to Florida, and also fly out west regularly, and for a merely average gal, you are starting at $250 to $300 in any other market, and upwarda of $400 to $500 in say Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Chicago or LA. Of course, Cincinnati also has one of the lowest Cost of Living indexes in the country, so the lower rates are at fair market value, so exactly what more competition do you want? The prices here are VERY fair.
As yo your complaint about "nauseating" provider pics, does your cursor not work? Nobody forces you to peruse the ad section.
PDPD.
I was not attacking anyone or the price structure. I live in the NE and as my name suggests, in Texas, and travel extensively. I have never seen a city where the same providers keep constantly advertising with 5 to six pictures a day? So I was curious about what is going on. I understand the assessments of price and yes it is reasonable and some women here are hot and I will do them in a heart beat, but excuse me for expressing my opinion abut the few whom I find nauseating.
Cheers.
TM
TexasMonger
03-29-13, 15:59
There is a price difference all over the tri state area for instance street walkers have their prices Craigslist girls and chat line are a little more than SW then the girls on ussg prices are a little lower than backpage girls. Also if you notice the girls on ussg will very the price due to weather big sporting events or if business is slow. And as far as the girls that aren't lookers I think they know I mean I'm sure they look in the mirror everyday and they set their price accordingly, now that doesn't mean that some girls don't have an over inflated opinion of themselves but for the most part girls set the price on what they're reasonably sure they can get. And as far as girls that are in your opinion nauseating they may not be nauseating to the next man or they might be just what that guy is looking for also you know what they say nobody fucks and sucks better than a fat girl except an ugly girl. Be safe man I'm outThank you for the clarification. Looks like the Tri State have it made.
Cheers.
TM
Cincyeast52
04-01-13, 17:46
[QUOTE=TheGoodSh; 1721824]I'm happy to put on my flame-retardant gear and post what might be the minority view (or the normally silent view) but I'd rather the reviews just give the basics instead of a detailed play-by-play when all was good. I just read this long review of Nadia, and wow. She sounds great. But I'd rather just know she is reliable, willing, available, safe, and if the pics are her (or whatever). I don't actually want to read about all the stuff that went down. The last thing I want to think about when I'm with a provider is all the other guys she's been with. Quote]
Thank you TheGoodSh for saying, so eloquently, what I feel every time I read one of these lavish narratives.
It seems guys like PD like to see themselves in writing, like to brag, like to impress the rest of us.
Sorry, not impressed. Braggarts just rub me the wrong way, in whatever part of my life I come into contact with them.
To offer THAT much detail regarding one's experience with a woman, on such a public board, is just disrespectful to the woman and boring to the rest of us.
Look, all civility aside, if I were a woman, and any jackball wrote that about me? Last visit, baby.
God but I hate bragging. That is ALL it is.
It almost borders on sick.
Get some help, PhatDATY, whoever the hell you are.
EricDraven
04-01-13, 18:54
And finally (because I'm sure I've pissed all your helpful people off by slagging off a prominent member of our community) anybody with any advice on how / if to give a mediocre review? If it was great. Easy. If it was a ripoff. No problem. But what do you do when the experience is just not that great? What do you do when you might not have been into it, into her, or distracted? I don't know. Tell me. I don't post reviews yet here, because I've not had anything worthwhile to add and don't want to piss off the SPs who probably read these boards with a less-than-glowing review which I feel wouldn't affect most of the rest of you, because you aren't me. You might have a lovely time with them. They might be hot and sexy to you, but not me. WALDT. But if I say I didn't like something. To her it is personal. I might want to see her again, give her another try, or decide I don't mind whatever I didn't like before. What if she reads the review and resents it? Makes me want to back-channel everything. But that defeats part of what is good about this place. Anyway. Do you guys post reviews which are not raves and not rants? Do you just say it was a nice time. Even if it wasn't one you'd actually recommend or repeat?At a certain point the "review" stops being a review and becomes an advertisement. There is a term in South America for a guy who gets discount or free services in exchange for a fake favorable review. It's called a 503 or a 530 or something, I can't really remember. I'm not saying that's what PD did but too much info on this site is not a good thing. This is a public forum that any non registered user can read. You are correct about the oThER site. The juicy details are there, but only for paying members if they want to see them. I think services received should be part of a review but a list of abbreviations is just fine.
As far as posting a mediocre review here is my best advice. Sometimes it's best not to post a review. If she is nice and she tries to do a good job but you just don't click or a physical characteristic of your is interfering with her abilities it's not her fault. It's better not to say anything then to damage a good girls reputation. If you want to post something about a girl that isn't flattering be a little cryptic in that portion and invite people to PM you for more details. Unless a girl does a cash and dash there is no reason not to be polite. Think about what you are writing."I probably won't repeat" and "I might repeat" basically mean the same thing but one is positive and the other is negative. If a girl reads about something you didn't like maybe she will learn from that and if you see her again she will already know. If you treat a girl with respect during the session and your review is honest and respectful she won't hold it against you.
Is it really necessary to quote the entirety of a circa 2, 000 word post in order to make a one sentence comment?
MollyDaniels
04-02-13, 02:33
Upscale girls like to keep certain details of private encounters private. I feel that it is quite tacky to ask for reviews of this nature, but maybe I'm old school.
If I wanted a play by play of our encounter, I would video it.
Just my opinion.
Kisses,
Molly
The last thing I want to think about when I'm with a provider is all the other guys she's been with.Then maybe this hobby is not right for you, because guess what these proviers are not virgins or your personal girlfriend.
Thank you TheGoodSh for saying, so eloquently, what I feel every time I read one of these lavish narratives.
It seems guys like PD like to see themselves in writing, like to brag, like to impress the rest of us.
Sorry, not impressed. Braggarts just rub me the wrong way, in whatever part of my life I come into contact with them.
Get some help, PhatDATY, whoever the hell you are.First of all, opinions are like assholes and elbows, everyone has a few. Second, and I believe this has been said to you before by multiple people, mongers are not here to fuck you or be your friend, so we don't need to impress you nor are we trying. This site exists for the sole purpose of the exchange of information for men to meet women to fuck. If you don't want information from a given source, rather than ***** and moan, please just use the handy ignore function this site has for your use, then your sensibilities won't be offended.
The only reason I have not blocked you, is that every once in a while you have decent, actionable intelligence to offer, so I pick the good from the bad. If I have absolutely nothing to offer you, just block me for your own sake; unless you like gnawing at toothaches.
I'm posting with my Admin ID but not as a mod, this is my humble opinion not to be confused with an endorsement from USASG.
Personally I enjoy Phat's informative posting. It's a nice break from the non stop whining I have to read everyday.
Again, this is A2 the guy, not A2 the mod speaking.
MollyDaniels
04-02-13, 11:01
For leaving this post up mr a 2.
I know you really didn't want to.
Ps: I'm a tad bit disappointed in my red legs.
Kisses,
Molly
I'm posting with my Admin I'd but not as a mod, this is my humble opinion not to be confused with an endorsement from USASG.
Personally I enjoy Phat's informative posting. It's a nice break from the non stop whining I have to read everyday.
Again, this is A2 the guy, not A2 the mod speaking.I second the observation about Phat.
In passing, I haven't seen Jackson around lately and miss him and his with.
HelpMeRhonda
04-03-13, 13:31
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Then maybe this hobby is not right for you, because guess what these proviers are not virgins or your personal girlfriend.Can agree with this thoughtline in response to not wanting to think about everyone else she's been with.
To me it's a turn-on talking with the various girls who are open about what they do and enjoy it about their likes and how busy they are, and how much sex they've had recently. I'm a freak in that regard probably though. I've definitely got voyeuristic tendencies. Hell, I enjoy porn, and that's watching someone else do what I'd enjoy doing to that girl. Here in this hobby, some of the girls enjoy talking about their jobs, some don't. To each their own.
I enjoy PD's posts because they give me some insight into how the session went, and whether or not that's someone I'd like to see. Case in point is Nadia. There was so much drama around her ad and pics and whatnot, and then PD toftt, puts up that review, and I contacted her immediately after reading it to set something up. She sounded a lot like what flavor I was looking for this week. And she was. Had it just been a normal "GFE, spinner. 10 attitude" review, who knows. Maybe maybe not.
Now, I personally don't have anywhere near the creative writing ability, so my reviews have all been fairly brief, but I've been more than willing to share with other mongers in PMs much more information, IF the provider is ok with it. I'm pretty sure I've seen PD state that he posts his long descriptive ones with permission usually. Hell, I know Nadia loved his review, we talked about it. Some gals are totally ok with that because it is a form of cheap advertising for them. Some want the details kept private. To each their own.
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Apparently some of you have told her that if she continues to see me, you won't see her. So she informed me last night I can only see her if no reviews are written, because even though she enjoys our time together and the reviews were accurate in every detail, she is worried about the fallout because other men are offended by such prose.
So, let me address the cockblockers involved in this high school drama. It is beyond me why a supposed dedicated hobbiest puts more time and energy into being worried about who is fucking who and how another client chooses to express his experience, rather than actually fucking women. Maybe it is jealousy over frequency and prowess. Maybe it is proselytizing over wanting everyone in the hobby to be homogenous. Maybe it is cowardice. Maybe it is lashing out to compensate for inadequacy.
It really doesn't matter, because it is not worth more time to consider than writing this rant.
Those of you in Rhonda's ear are getting your wish.
No, I am not changing my review style, if that is what you hoped to accomplish. I will no longer be seeing her, because I will not cower to your pettiness.
For me the detailed review is part of the hobby process. In fact, I would posit to you, provider or monger, if you disagree you are in the wrong place, because the charter of this board is:
"To provide an exchange of information for men to meet women to fuck."
If there are folks reading this that can't deal with that exchange of information, then put me on ignore, because I am not changing my writing style to make you feel better about yourself.
At the end of the day, all you really accomplished with your childish whispering games of getting in Rhonda's ear is rob this lady of a few hundred dollars per week, so you folks that pressured her, better belly up and replace the regular business I sent her way. I will not see her any longer. Rest assured your precious golden pussy will no longer be defiled by Phatdaty.
Looks like the other ladies will be getting more business. See, I can vote with my wallet too, and dollars to donuts, my wallet, like my cock, is thicker.
MyOwnIllness
04-05-13, 01:48
[QUOTE=PhatDaty; 1725905]I am not sure what Rhonda may have said, and I am sure management had a very good reason for removing it, but I would imagine it had something to do with her reaction to a number of her "regular" clients putting a bug in her ear this week.
Apparently some of you have told her that if she continues to see me, you won't see her. So she informed me last night I can only see her if no reviews are written, because even though she enjoys our time together and the reviews were accurate in every detail, she is worried about the fallout because other men are offended by
I had to get rid of some of that shit. I am not a regular of Rhonda's at The moment. I was a regular on my old handle than I got hot an s. O. Bs started following me. Not wanting beautiful Rhonda to take a case for me I laid low a while an started a fresh way. I understand your pissed off and I understand these other guys too and I'm a more keep people safe an treat the girls right kind of man. You are more forward or even vulgar in some's opinion. You also describe these women In a way that we can all tell your one of the assholes that will fly off and call them names with the blink Of an eye. And another thing! You are far from useing our forum for a outlet to exchange information to fuck women! You fucking bragging buddy the information you give is a fucking written porno at best at worste its making Rhonda hotter than fire! That's why smart people talk to those they trust an know through PMs. This is a free site to read from! Your big mouth is what teenage bull shit what is it your so proud of son! Ok your fucking pussy !! Your still paying for it like everyone else here she didn't choose your dollars over anyone else's! So your only pissed off because she picked her decent regulars who do things a few strokes more tasteful her regulars that are less loud mouth about her actions because they have jobs and families and a lot of us would like to stick to one gal and many of of have been with just one gal for a long dam time and if some flamboyant LOOK LOOK I DID this and this and this! Came along and fucked up a good thing I had. I would tell her to be careful with that stupid ass big mouth too! Your pissing on everyone's play ground and Rhonda has been in this for long enough she is a wise women an didn't mind telling the loud one to shut up or nut up so she respected those who have respect for the industry and she didn't tell you how you should be acting because she knew we would. You got a big dam mouth maybe you ought to put a cock in that bull horn of a hole there!
I am not a regular of Rhonda's at The moment. I was a regular on my old handle than I got hot an s. O. Bs started following me. Not wanting beautiful Rhonda to take a case for me I laid low a while an started a fresh way. I understand your pissed off and I understand these other guys too and I'm a more keep people safe an treat the girls right kind of man. You are more forward or even vulgar in some's opinion. You also describe these women In a way that we can all tell your one of the assholes that will fly off and call them names with the blink Of an eye. And another thing! You are far from useing our forum for a outlet to exchange information to fuck women! You fucking bragging buddy the information you give is a fucking written porno at best at worste its making Rhonda hotter than fire! That's why smart people talk to those they trust an know through PMs. This is a free site to read from! Your big mouth is what teenage bull shit what is it your so proud of son! Ok your fucking pussy !! Your still paying for it like everyone else here she didn't choose your dollars over anyone else's! So your only pissed off because she picked her decent regulars who do things a few strokes more tasteful her regulars that are less loud mouth about her actions because they have jobs and families and a lot of us would like to stick to one gal and many of of have been with just one gal for a long dam time and if some flamboyant LOOK LOOK I DID this and this and this! Came along and fucked up a good thing I had. I would tell her to be careful with that stupid ass big mouth too! Your pissing on everyone's play ground and Rhonda has been in this for long enough she is a wise women an didn't mind telling the loud one to shut up or nut up so she respected those who have respect for the industry and she didn't tell you how you should be acting because she knew we would. You got a big dam mouth maybe you ought to put a cock in that bull horn of a hole there!Well, welcome back to the hobby and you and the other guys can now have Rhonda all to yourself. Do your self a favor next time you see her and tip her for some extra time and have her tutor you in some basic English spelling and grammar. I couldn't even read half that shit. After about the eighth misspelled word I gave up. I suspect the real reason you don't write long reviews is that you have the writing ability of a third grader.
For the record, thank you for proving my point. It is obvious that you were one of the guys since you felt compelled to run to her rescue like a jock protecting a prom queen. When you are done playing schoolboy games, come back and post something relevant.
Some guys tell ladies they want to review them and some ladies want a review. The guy should be courteous enough to ask how vivid the lady wants it to be. Some ladies like it HOT and SMOOOKIN others prefer discretion and not too vivid. Some aren't smart enough to ask the lady and just go on a jag. It always is courteous to ask the lady if you want to review her how open and vivid she prefers the review. Fking is fking, and discretion is discretion. Whatever works for both parties by agreement would seem to be the most useable.
Disclaimer; I am posting as myself; A2 the man, rather than A2 the God of this forum.
Why is it whenever somebody is pissed off at me they always assume I'm some fat, socially awkward, loser with a terrible life?
Brunch yesterday;
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Jhade_15-6192-6198_8352.htm
My current ATF (or as we say here in Argentina favorita) she came to the Monger Mansion (5000 square foot house in downtown Buenos Aires, if any of you knuckleheads have a couple bucks we rent apartments), she started on the stripper pole in the living room, (lights, music, stage, the whole 9) stripped down to heels, hose, bombacha, and bra, then did a 9 1/2 weeks crawl down the stairs from the stage across the floor and into my lap, sort of, her head was in my lap anyway for a 15 min BBBJ. When I couldn't take it anymore I threw her over my shoulder (she weighs about 105 soaking wet) and carried her up the grand staircase to my apartment on the third floor and threw her into my bed. Then I had 15 minutes or so of my own time with my head in her lap. She tried to stop at 10 after the second O but I grabbed her wrists and pinned them behind her back and continued till the third. I'd continue with the rest but it's not a report it's a rant.
Why in the hell does everybody assume my life sucks cause I'm a mod?
Why am I posting in Cincy? I like the Cincy NKY area forums, the forum from my real hometown isn't that active so I'm sort of adopting you guys.
A2
PS I forgot to add, cost on that was about 45 bucks US including taxi, condoms and the Red Bulls I feed her for two hours at the house. Seriously I have a terrible life???? WTF!!!
Cincyeast52
04-05-13, 16:43
I've not seen Rhonda but based on her preferences regarding men I would rate her as having a lot of class.
So, if she chooses not to see you, take it personally.
LOL, what a jackass we have among us.
You've been banned from the board once,"phat" ass. Keep it up.
Another mental midget is in our midst.
Again, as always, CincyEast, if you put as much time and energy into fucking women as you do in following me around and commenting on my posting and review style, you would lead a much happier life.
If you have so much time on your hands that I am your hobby, perhaps you should go back to adult learning class and take a course on reading comprehension. She did not "choose not to see me," but rather caved to pressure from jerks like you to because of the threat of boycott from her other patrons:
I am not sure what Rhonda may have said, and I am sure management had a very good reason for removing it, but I would imagine it had something to do with her reaction to a number of her "regular" clients putting a bug in her ear this week.
Apparently some of you have told her that if she continues to see me, you won't see her. So she informed me last night I can only see her if no reviews are written, because even though she enjoys our time together and the reviews were accurate in every detail, she is worried about the fallout because other men are offended by such prose.
I've not seen Rhonda but based on her preferences regarding men I would rate her as having a lot of class.
So, if she chooses not to see you, take it personally.
LOL, what a jackass we have among us.
You've been banned from the board once,"phat" ass. Keep it up.
HelpMeRhonda
04-05-13, 20:08
Another mental midget is in our midst.
Again, as always, CincyEast, if you put as much time and energy into fucking women as you do in following me around and commenting on my posting and review style, you would lead a much happier life.
If you have so much time on your hands that I am your hobby, perhaps you should go back to adult learning class and take a course on reading comprehension. She did not "choose not to see me," but rather caved to pressure from jerks like you to because of the threat of boycott from her other patrons:As I do not get involved in board drama, I am tired of hearing about who I choose to see, No one threatened to "boycott" me, I haven't heard anything from any of my clients on this subject as they do not involve themselves in drama either. Now can this subject Stop, Rhonda
Have fun, be safe, that is what it is all about.
Another mental midget is in our midst.
Again, as always, CincyEast, if you put as much time and energy into fucking women as you do in following me around and commenting on my posting and review style, you would lead a much happier life.
If you have so much time on your hands that I am your hobby, perhaps you should go back to adult learning class and take a course on reading comprehension. She did not "choose not to see me," but rather caved to pressure from jerks like you to because of the threat of boycott from her other patrons:Do you two know each other personally or just through this board? And is this feud about Phats Penthouse Forum reviews?
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Maybe it would be better if the post not be deleted next time? At least we would have people over reacting to what they guess may have been written.
I'm talking about this very thing to el Jeffe, normally there is no provider "defending" on the forum because if we didn't stop it, the conversation would be taken over with "he said/she said" and it would stall.
I'm developing the opinion that perhaps the Rants, Raves, and Opinions thread should be a free fire zone (within reason, no threats, no revealing personal information, ect.) because then there would be less flamethrower duels in the review threads.
A2 is wise,
A2
Do you two know each other personally or just through this board? And is this feud about Phats Penthouse Forum reviews?1) No, we have never met.
2) CinyEast has wanted to fuck me since I wrote my first review on here, but you would think if he had read enough of my reviews he would realize that I really don't swing from that side of the plate.
As I do not get involved in board drama, I am tired of hearing about who I choose to see, No one threatened to "boycott" me, I haven't heard anything from any of my clients on this subject as they do not involve themselves in drama either. Now can this subject Stop, Rhonda
Have fun, be safe, that is what it is all about.Yes, this has more to do with them, than you.
Let's be frank, you did indeed attempt to deliver me an ultimatum Thursday night based on what your other clients complained about. That was then compounded by finding a bunch of nonsense, posted by your so-called "regular clients," as well as a PM box from multiple guys that you see, claiming they informed you that if you continue to see me, they won't be seeing you any longer. This continued Thursday night through Friday afternoon at which point Friday evening I informed you (my choice, not yours) that I would no longer be seeing you.
I did not write a review of our last visit, because while it was wonderful (other than the conversation), by the time I read all of the posts and PMs regarding my reviews, I did not feel it was fair to blame you for their conduct.
Perhaps I was wrong on that decision?
You and your other "regular" clients can back-pedal as much as desired, but I will not have a provider or other mongers dictating to me how I enjoy this hobby. I did enjoy seeing you, and yes the majority of this drama came from your "other friends," but make no mistake, you were the conduit for their derision, and that is what led to my decision to no longer see you.
Do you two know each other personally or just through this board? And is this feud about Phats Penthouse Forum reviews?I think it is Mr. Golf, except Mr. Phat's reviews are not the John Candy's Penthouse variety in "Splash" ie, not made up. His latest 'project' was Nadia who is now with UTR. Prior to that she was mislabled, lot's of confusion, and personaly did not seem a safe bet at all. The feeling with Nadia now is "Whoa Mamma!" :)
Another mental midget is in our midst.I'm glad to see that you guys have moved the rants to the proper section. Please keep them here.
Phat: Thanks for posting reviews.
All: At least he posts reviews. Not everyone's favorite format but better than a dream of a friend who had a dream of a friend who had a dream.
I'm glad to see that you guys have moved the rants to the proper section. Please keep them here.
Phat: Thanks for posting reviews.
All: At least he posts reviews. Not everyone's favorite format but better than a dream of a friend who had a dream of a friend who had a dream.The only problem I have with his review format is I can't write like that unless I plagiarized myself all to heck.
I just figured you went to Argentina to be with the Nazi refugees. Cincinnati is a good place to adopt for the same reasons.The Nazis went to Missiones I've been there, it's weird. You're obviously in a latin country but there all these blonde haired, blue eyed people. I mean A LOT of Germans went there after WWII.
A2
MollyDaniels
04-07-13, 22:50
Do you think you will get more business by talking 'crap' about me to your clients? I wonder how many think 'hmm, I wonder what she's going to say mean about me? ' Did you think that I wouldn't find out about it? Personally, I could care less what you think or say about me. Doesn't bother me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, right? I just feel sorry for you and wish you had a real life outside of the hobby to entertain you, and friends of your own to talk shit about. And I feel extremely sorry for all the clients that ever have to listen to one provider bash another-thats a very awkward situation for the poor client. If he wanted to hear girly bitching and gossip, he could have stayed home with his wife LOL.
Anyway, earth day is coming up, so make sure you do something nice for Mother Nature this month, like hug a tree, recycle, or do the dirty outside and spill your seed upon the earth.
Kisses,
Molly
JohnGalt10
04-08-13, 17:56
"Anyway, earth day is coming up, so make sure you do something nice for Mother Nature this month, like hug a tree, recycle, or do the dirty outside and spill your seed upon the earth."
Kisses,
Molly
I spill it outside all the time, Molly when my wife turns me out the door like a half jacked off dog. LOL. Her libido is like the Hubbert Curve. Stay safe JG
Girl I completely agree but sad as it may sound some providers don't have a life outside of this just goes to show the level of maturity we deal with everyday. Instead of talking crap they should be trying to get appts and stay out of other peoples business. I'm so glad Molly, Dawn and a few others are above this behaviour. For anyone reading this if you take offense then maybe you need to change what your saying and be friendly its real simple to all else.
much love and kisses,
Silk
Do you think you will get more business by talking 'crap' about me to your clients? I wonder how many think 'hmm, I wonder what she's going to say mean about me? ' Did you think that I wouldn't find out about it? Personally, I could care less what you think or say about me. Doesn't bother me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, right? I just feel sorry for you and wish you had a real life outside of the hobby to entertain you, and friends of your own to talk shit about. And I feel extremely sorry for all the clients that ever have to listen to one provider bash another-thats a very awkward situation for the poor client. If he wanted to hear girly bitching and gossip, he could have stayed home with his wife LOL.
Anyway, earth day is coming up, so make sure you do something nice for Mother Nature this month, like hug a tree, recycle, or do the dirty outside and spill your seed upon the earth.
Kisses,
MollyI have never met Molly personally, but I can say that in my experience, when one provider bashes another one in my company, particularly when their opinion came unsolicited by me, they create the opposite outcome they desired, and it makes me want to see the other provider even more.
I have never met Molly personally, but I can say that in my experience, when one provider bashes another one in my company, particularly when their opinion came unsolicited by me, they create the opposite outcome they desired, and it makes me want to see the other provider even more.When they use my cuddle time for gossip instead of romantic pillow talk, or just talking with their fingers, it ruins the whole session, that might have been excellent before.
When they try to deride a gal as classy and respected as Molly, it tells me two things:
1) They are jealous.
2) They are full of shit.
One of the quickest ways to make my DNS list is to use our time together to gossip about another provider. Dollars to donuts the lady that is attempting to undermine Molly's reputation, is probably already on my DO NOT SEE list.
That is just sinful Behavior to gossip and back-stab another provider.
Delicious Dawn
04-09-13, 01:34
Molly,
Apparently a provider likes talking about us.
We should be smiling, feel honored and take that as a compliment.
When one does such, they are clearly threatened by us. Of course. This person is jealous and bitter. She has made this hobby her life and that's very sad.
Me. Well, I'm busy being a momma. You? You are free and without restrictions. In fact, I sometimes envy you! LOL. This person who believes that the guys won't tell us what's being said, well. Sadly, this is all she has. I pity her. That poor soul. Desperation and hard times will sometimes make one act in ways they possibly other times wouldn't. We should pray for her.
To me, you're awesome, beautiful, fun and a sexual animal. I tell this to my clients if they inquire about seeing another. I love ya, chick.
Don't feel bad, I've heard they are talking about me as well. I smile. I'm a threat to this person. LOL.
Business must be slow.
Hey. Lets road trip? You and I. We will go raise hell and leave men breatheless.
Kisses to you,
Dawn.
Do you think you will get more business by talking 'crap' about me to your clients? I wonder how many think 'hmm, I wonder what she's going to say mean about me? ' Did you think that I wouldn't find out about it? Personally, I could care less what you think or say about me. Doesn't bother me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, right? I just feel sorry for you and wish you had a real life outside of the hobby to entertain you, and friends of your own to talk shit about. And I feel extremely sorry for all the clients that ever have to listen to one provider bash another-thats a very awkward situation for the poor client. If he wanted to hear girly bitching and gossip, he could have stayed home with his wife LOL.
Anyway, earth day is coming up, so make sure you do something nice for Mother Nature this month, like hug a tree, recycle, or do the dirty outside and spill your seed upon the earth.
Kisses,
Molly
Hey. Lets road trip? You and I. We will go raise hell and leave men breatheless.
Kisses to you,
Dawn.OMFG! To be a fly on the wall!
MollyDaniels
04-09-13, 09:54
For all your kind words everyone.
A2, you are my hero, and it would be our pleasure for Dawn and I to join you for a night of debauchery in the monger mansion, but we might not ever leave! The dynamic duo has been known to cause death after prolonged exposure.
Silk, I will be taking you up on lunch this week-I hear you are quite the naked chef haha.
Phat, we have had our problems in the past, but your observations are true. Jealousy can be a powerful emotion only alleviated by the degradation of the one causing the jealousy.
Tmj, I thought the same thing-and as the old adage goes, all publicity is good publicity.
John, you crack me up. I was thinking more along the lines of outdoor sex, but that works too!
Let this serve as a learning experience for our community, and let us stand together and not commend this type of unacceptable behavior.
A2, you are my hero, and it would be our pleasure for dawn and I to join you for a night of debauchery in the monger mansion, but we might not ever leave! The dynamic duo has been known to cause death after prolonged exposure.Ohmyohmyohmyohmyohmyohmyohmy Oh my fucking God! A2 the man (not the godlike presence) just had a special moment thinking about this!
Did I say all of that out loud?
Anybody got a smoke?
Her libido is like the Hubbert Curve.That's why I love this board. You won't see that on another site.
MollyDaniels
04-09-13, 13:37
That's why I love this board. You won't see that on another site.It's an inside joke with me. I used to do oil research.
Hey. Lets road trip? You and I. We will go raise hell and leave men breatheless.
Kisses to you,
Dawn.The line forms behind me, fellas.
Talk about the ultimate fantasy come true.
Molly (snip)
Hey. Lets road trip? You and I. We will go raise hell and leave men breatheless.Um, based on the reports I've seen, you'll leave them dead. So, while an understatement, I guess "breathless" would be accurate.
/z
Um, based on the reports I've seen, you'll leave them dead. So, while an understatement, I guess "breathless" would be accurate.
/zFrom past experience, I can assure you it would be a happy death. Besides, the old Rodney Dangerfield joke about liking to make love to two women at the same time so the women can keep each other company once the guy has exhausted himself certainly applies here. But with the Molly Daniels / Delicious Dawn duo, that works out rather nicely, as it is obvious that they share a genuine and mutual attraction to one another. Any lucky gentleman who has booked a duo gets a front row seat to see how that attraction plays out. When Molly planted the seed in my mind about booking a duo with them, she said it was a bucket list thing for a lot of gentlemen. Well, I can certainly say that when my number's up, I will be able to die happily since I crossed that item off my own bucket list.
I used to do oil research.Have you been published?
I ask because I saw a paper titled "Effect of surface tension variations on the lubricity of anatomically sized appendages and their insertion into spatially tight orifices". I thought, from personal experience, you might have been researching that one when we last crossed paths.
LOL.
Couldn't resist. Hope things are going well for you.
Have a great day.
Dz
It's an inside joke with me. I used to do oil research.That's a much more legitimate reason for being familiar with it than I have. The only reason I remembered is that I had to become familiar with it for a class (MANY moons ago) , pasted the wrong fucking curve into the presentation, and got creamed for it. I'll never forget it now LOL
i'm just wondering based on some of the conversation about nicole (brandi) and her mother in the bp thread, if anyone actually has knowingly partaken in a two-girl show featuring a mother and daughter, this pair or any. i'm talking about doing them simultaneously, not consecutively in different times and places. i believe mr. boombastic has written on that subject, and that's a different thing.
i'm not sure it's right to judge, because we are all essentially perverts here in the eyes of much of society anyway. yet there's something about this particular combo, or for that matter doing siblings simultaneously, that crosses a bright line for me. but i know there's the whole twins fantasy, and maybe i'm just overly conservative. i'm sure (almost) everyone here recognizes the line about doing someone **** or someone who's obviously being coerced into prostitution. but i'm curious about this one.
now, personally, i can't imagine any real mother deserving of the designation could stand to participate in this anway. but brandi's mom is obviously a very special case.haven't, probably wouldn't / couldn't, but on this particular topic i wouldn't judge anyone either. as long as everyone's a consenting adult, who am i to protest?
Yea I did read that post by Mr. Boom a while back. I think he was talking about a BSW combo.
There have been a few SW M &D combo around the Downtown SW strips. I can't remember the names as I am posting but someone knows the names. Often they would do combos together, and this was before this black tar heroin hit the streets. Crack was the main drug and they often shared crack pipes with each other before and after the deal.
I know one pair was interviewed by Ch#5 during a CPD sting a few years ago. I can see the faces & body, but the names?
I use to do both of Short Body's Aunts. They would trick together until Short Body got caught Ripping folks off and it was Guilt by Association, so she had to cut Short Body loose. Short Body got Banned from the Mohawk WE are all the way up to Vine St. She screwed over a drug boy and his friend beat the crap out of her and almost went after her Aunt. Her Aunt ended up having to chill with me for a few hours till the whole mess died down.
This was 4-5 Years back or more. Short Body is still on drugs, but her Aunt got Clean and has been Drug Free since the. Her Aunts were Stone Cold Foxes, w / a BSW Ass & Hips, and a good size chest. Dressed well too. Drug Addicted but always stayed clean, nice smelling, well dressed, and a Great Attitude.
You could always find them from Ravine to Mohawk. They had a flop room close by.
Haven't, probably wouldn't / couldn't, but on this particular topic I wouldn't judge anyone either. As long as everyone's a consenting adult, who am I to protest?
MollyDaniels
04-10-13, 09:40
I'm awesome as always Dweezil.
And that is a great way to learn by screwing up. So let us all hope that some certain person can learn from their mistakes and stop the pillow talk gossip.
I'm not sure it's right to judge, because we are all essentially perverts here in the eyes of much of society anyway. Yet there's something about this particular combo, or for that matter doing siblings simultaneously, that crosses a bright line for me. But I know there's the whole twins fantasy, and maybe I'm just overly conservative.Have done twins, both named Maria funny enough, but they were fraternal not identical. I did Paraguayan sisters on another occasion, one skinny, one chunky that was fun. No G2G action though in either case, that would be perverse or SHOCKING as the judge on Boston Legal used to say. Not the G2G by itself of course, but keeping it in the family.
Still looking for an identical set, so I'm only calling this a half a check-mark on the bucket list.
I love my life,
A2
If you go back read the history of the Vinny's query, initially he asked if we had any Asian escorts that frequent / advertised on the Cincinnati board and several folks chimed in that all we we was the gal on the westside that has Asian or Hawaiian features and other that there was nothing, not even a decent AMP.Well, no, that's not exactly what he said.
Hello my good brothers from Cincy. I am reposting this message again, I must have closed my window by mistake on the first one. I am requesting a little help from you brothers from down the way. I am searching for a nice looking asian lady from the Cincy area that is well reviewed for my little brothers 40th birthday gift. I would greatly appreciate your help. Please pm me reccomendations or shared links.
Thanks and be safe.
VinnyThat reads more like a blanket request, something that I assumed by your most recent post to 747 would be "muddying the waters" in your judgement.
I pulled out my little black book to see if any of my contacts were still up and running. There was a Korean-American I knew that sometimes worked Louisvile, Cincy, and Cbus. And when I ran the digit search I could no longer find her website or ads, but did find those same numbers being listed in a thread in Dayton, and also a NR Review, and a BP ad and discussion. The pics did mot match my memory, but who knows. So I posted that response to vinnie, here where he did the query and pointed him in the right direction.
His initial querry was posted in the proper place (he wanted an Asian escort) , and thus my response was proper in offering him the only gal within a 90 mile radius.
SnipNot sure why the fact that he wanted an Asian is relevant to whether or not he posted in the proper place (spoiler alert: he didn't) , and really, if he wanted to know if we had any Asian women that advertised on the boards here, he could have, you know, checked the boards here, right? I'm not saying he's a jerk for posting that question there, I'm just confounded by what appears to be your extremely selective dismay at off-topic posts in the Forum Advertiser thread. I guess what I'm wondering is why it's OK (in your eyes) for you post two quotes with Backpage links in response to an off-topic question in a thread that should be (in your eyes) reserved for the ladies that advertise here, but when someone else posts backpage questions (yes, in the wrong thread) it's worthy of a three or four paragraph lecture?
I'm just confounded.Apparently that is easily done. Your confusion may be linked to your lack of reading comprehension.
Well, no, that's not exactly what he said.That is exactly what he requested and he posted it in the correct thread:
I am requesting a little help from you brothers from down the way. I am searching for a nice looking asian lady from the Cincy area that is well reviewed.Vinnie requested, in the appropriate area, information on finding an Asian escort. I always try to help a traveling monger, as I travel frequently myself and often need the favor returned. Asian experiences of any sort have been lacking in our region. I have significant UTR resources and looked through my little black book to help him out. When I checked some of the names and numbers I had, I found a Korean American that might fit his bill. I cross referenced the number to see if their were any active threads, advertisements, or websites to give him the most up to date information available on her, and there she was advertising in both Louisville and Dayton. I provided him with the most current information I could find. If it was the same woman I once saw, she was a classified advertiser a while back, but went off the grid. These pictures were different than I remembered, but the number was the same, so it was indeed cogent to my response.
So to sum it up for you, if you had read everything carefully, Vinnie did indeed make a proper request, I did make a proper response, and you and 747 are disruptive to this board, so dear sir, go fuck yourself.
Buster6914
04-11-13, 12:58
Both of you sound like my kids when they were 7 and 8 years old. Stop and desist or take it to pm's please so it doesn't clutter up the board.
Be safe, be smart.
B
both of you sound like my kids when they were 7 and 8 years old. stop and desist or take it to pm's please so it doesn't clutter up the board.
be safe, be smart.
bfor general information, when i use the blue ink i am posting as my godlike self, not my human self.
i'm running a little experiment here on the r r and o thread in my adopted city cincinnati (still a steelers fan though). i've dropped the majority of rules in this thread regarding argumentative posting. i want to see if i give you guys an octagon to beat the shit out of each other if it will elevate the quality of posting in the review threads. i get it that there are guys that just really dig calling each other fuckwads, while others want to visit the site only to read reviews and info. i want to try and accommodate both, at least until el jeffe steps in and kicks my ass for it.
there are still rules, i will tolerate no direct threats of violence, no revealing personal info of others, no gay stuff (except calling somebody a cocksucker), as always nothing about **** stuff, what i'm going to allow is the spatting and drama i regularly delete off the review threads.
ladies you are of course invited to jump in as well, i will not be throwing the normal "completely pointless drama" flag you are accustomed to in the review threads. all of you guys that have been complaining to me that i haven't let them respond to stuff in the past now have only yourselves to blame.
as jonathan lowell spencer aka "the human torch" was so fond of saying;"flame on"
a2
ChickaAmante
04-11-13, 13:56
A2, you lucky dog. I started my hobby when I visited BA on business. Man, that was heaven. I stayed at the Marriott in downtown (near Puerto Madera) and all those apartments nearby had line ups for me to pick. No request was out of question. No drama no shit like that. No fear of LE either. Good looking young, blondes, Brunettes, like 18-20, duos, for HR was less than $. Priceless!
I have been spoilt since that trip and has become an Argentina fan since then. I sometimes think I should fly back to BA just for this.
Actually, it was BA when I came to know that ArgentinaPrivate is the main site and USAG is child of that site. If I can say that LOL.
Enjoy dude. You are like a honey bee in a nectar rich valley of flowers.
Chicka.
Disclaimer; I am posting as myself; A2 the man, rather than A2 the God of this forum.
Why is it whenever somebody is pissed off at me they always assume I'm some fat, socially awkward, loser with a terrible life?
Brunch yesterday;
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Jhade_15-6192-6198_8352.htm
My current ATF (or as we say here in Argentina favorita) she came to the Monger Mansion (5000 square foot house in downtown Buenos Aires, if any of you knuckleheads have a couple bucks we rent apartments) , she started on the stripper pole in the living room, (lights, music, stage, the whole 9) stripped down to heels, hose, bombacha, and bra, then did a 9 1/2 weeks crawl down the stairs from the stage across the floor and into my lap, sort of, her head was in my lap anyway for a 15 min BBBJ. When I couldn't take it anymore I threw her over my shoulder (she weighs about 105 soaking wet) and carried her up the grand staircase to my apartment on the third floor and threw her into my bed. Then I had 15 minutes or so of my own time with my head in her lap. She tried to stop at 10 after the second O but I grabbed her wrists and pinned them behind her back and continued till the third. I'd continue with the rest but it's not a report it's a rant.
Why in the hell does everybody assume my life sucks cause I'm a mod?
Why am I posting in Cincy? I like the Cincy NKY area forums, the forum from my real hometown isn't that active so I'm sort of adopting you guys.
A2.
PS I forgot to add, cost on that was about 45 bucks US including taxi, condoms and the Red Bulls I feed her for two hours at the house. Seriously I have a terrible life? WTF!
Apparently that is easily done. Your confusion may be linked to your lack of reading comprehension.
That is exactly what he requested and he posted it in the correct thread:
Vinnie requested, in the appropriate area, information on finding an Asian escort. I always try to help a traveling monger, as I travel frequently myself and often need the favor returned. Asian experiences of any sort have been lacking in our region. I have significant UTR resources and looked through my little black book to help him out. When I checked some of the names and numbers I had, I found a Korean American that might fit his bill. I cross referenced the number to see if their were any active threads, advertisements, or websites to give him the most up to date information available on her, and there she was advertising in both Louisville and Dayton. I provided him with the most current information I could find. If it was the same woman I once saw, she was a classified advertiser a while back, but went off the grid. These pictures were different than I remembered, but the number was the same, so it was indeed cogent to my response.
So to sum it up for you, if you had read everything carefully, Vinnie did indeed make a proper request, I did make a proper response, and you and 747 are disruptive to this board, so dear sir, go fuck yourself.LOL. So to sum it up, if I want to find an Asian escort in Cincinnati, I should post in the thread where we review the ladies that advertise on this board, even if / though no Asian women are currently advertising on this board. Is that what you're saying? How is that the right place? Wouldn't General or Escorts be far more appropriate considering what you have said twice now on the subject? I mean, I get that the provider in question used to advertise here (which I didn't know before, granted), but I still think the original request was ill-placed. At any rate, I'm done, and frankly, I'm not real concerned that one of this board's bigger drama queens thinks that I'm disruptive. Have a great day, good sir.
for general information, when i use the blue ink i am posting as my godlike self, not my human self.
i'm running a little experiment here on the r r and o thread in my adopted city cincinnati (still a steelers fan though). i've dropped the majority of rules in this thread regarding argumentative posting. i want to see if i give you guys an octagon to beat the shit out of each other if it will elevate the quality of posting in the review threads. i get it that there are guys that just really dig calling each other fuckwads, while others want to visit the site only to read reviews and info. i want to try and accommodate both, at least until el jeffe steps in and kicks my ass for it.
there are still rules, i will tolerate no direct threats of violence, no revealing personal info of others, no gay stuff (except calling somebody a cocksucker) , as always nothing about **** stuff, what i'm going to allow is the spatting and drama i regularly delete off the review threads.
ladies you are of course invited to jump in as well, i will not be throwing the normal "completely pointless drama" flag you are accustomed to in the review threads. all of you guys that have been complaining to me that i haven't let them respond to stuff in the past now have only yourselves to blame.
as jonathan lowell spencer aka "the human torch" was so fond of saying;"flame on"
a2motion to change thread name to the octagon?
MollyDaniels
04-11-13, 15:04
Motion to change thread name to The Octagon?Lets rename it until the old rules go back into effect.
Blah, blah, blah, Blah-Blah-BlahNo to sum it up, you are still confused, so I will try typing real S-L-O-W.
1) NKY477 regularly posts shotgun queries without doing any research.
2) Multiple senior members have discouraged him from this on multiple occasions.
3) He did it yet again this week, so yes, I did share some pointers with him on general forum protocols.
4) Since you and him have some type of romantic relationship, you took offense at my pointing out the error of his ways and decided to lash out at me.
5) You then scoured the board for a place where you claim I posted off-topic. Landing on my reply to Vinnie, a senior member that regularly shares his intel with me and others.
6) I provided him with as much intel as I could on a lady that fit his request. This is a reciprocal practice.
7) Go fuck yourself, or if you prefer fuck NKY747. I am busy fucking women that advertise on this board and do not have the time for tutoring you any further in reading comprehension.
A2, you lucky dog. I started my hobby when I visited BA on business. Man, that was heaven. I stayed at the Marriott in downtown (near Puerto Madera) and all those apartments nearby had line ups for me to pick. No request was out of question. No drama no shit like that. No fear of LE either. Good looking young, blondes, Brunettes, like 18-20, duos, for HR was less than $. Priceless!
I have been spoilt since that trip and has become an Argentina fan since then. I sometimes think I should fly back to BA just for this.
Actually, it was BA when I came to know that ArgentinaPrivate is the main site and USAG is child of that site. If I can say that LOL.
Enjoy dude. You are like a honey bee in a nectar rich valley of flowers.
Chicka.There is a 5000 square foot mansion for visiting mongers to stay in (so long as you're not a fucking douchbag). Privados are on the way out, they actually are against the law but that's leaving room for the indies to rise.
AP is actually the red headed stepchild of the International Sex Guide which the USA used to be a part of.
A2
So I am speaking at the college on Monday in regards to the Legalization of Prostitution and Human Trafficking at a Moral Ethics class. I am SO nervous, and I am just going to be me, but does anyone have any pointers or advice?Talk about yourself without actually admitting to breaking any laws. Speak of enpowerment for women to control their own bodies. Thoroughly condemn trafficking. Be honest and sincere if you're not a good liar.
Don't show too much boobage, don't give them the soundbite, don't give them the cheap picture for a cheap story.
Practice your speech, think of the most embarrassing questions you may have to answer and be ready for them.
Remember to breath.
The suspending of the rules made me think of the new trailer for the new movie the "the Purge". But I'm liking the idea that the gloves are on and it time to rumble.
*Comically angry rant that deftly avoids addressing the point I presented, accuses me of scouring the board in order to defame him when I literally scrolled down a single post, chock full of the same homosexual and reading jokes that 3rd graders make, topped off with an assurance that he, as a regular on a message board for guys that have sex with women, does indeed have sex with women*Methinks I hit a nerve in there somewhere
So I am speaking at the college on Monday in regards to the Legalization of Prostitution and Human Trafficking at a Moral Ethics class. I am SO nervous, and I am just going to be me, but does anyone have any pointers or advice?
Talk about yourself without actually admitting to breaking any laws. Speak of enpowerment for women to control their own bodies. Thoroughly condemn trafficking. Be honest and sincere if you're not a good liar.
Don't show too much boobage, don't give them the soundbite, don't give them the cheap picture for a cheap story.
Practice your speech, think of the most embarrassing questions you may have to answer and be ready for them.
Remember to breath.Well said. To me, not giving them the soundbyte would be the biggest thing. I would guess by the sound of it that it's a philosophy class, which I imagine would be mostly populated with people who are largely sympathetic to your side, but prepare for the clowns as well, because there's bound to be one or two (assuming you're taking questions). Breathe, don't over-caffinate, be yourself.
PhatDaty's angry rant deftly avoids addressing the point I presented, accuses me of scouring the board in order to defame him when I literally scrolled down a single post, chock full of the same homosexual and reading jokes that 3rd graders make, topped off with an assurance that he, as a regular on a message board for guys that have sex with women, does indeed have sex with women. Methinks I hit a nerve in there somewhereAre you still humping away at this?
Well, you can continue this mental masturbation to your fiendish heart's desire, but beware of psychological priapism. Cerebral erections lasting four or more hours can be dangerous to your soul.
BahamaMama
04-13-13, 01:10
For what it's worth it was 5am. I had given up seeing someone a couple hours before. Maybe her and I were both out of are element. Maybe she was more attracted to you, who knows. It is a YMMV kinda thing. Peace.I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but you come across as being overly self-assured about hobbying for someone that only has seven posts and one review. You posts indicate that this was your first time, and your saying, "I turn the TV off." Just sayin'. I am curious. Are you new to the hobby, or just to the forum?
I don't necessarily have a problem with it, but you come across as being overly self-assured about hobbying for someone that only has seven posts and one review. You posts indicate that this was your first time, and your saying, "I turn the TV off." Just sayin'. I am curious. Are you new to the hobby, or just to the forum?LOL Not that it has ANYTHING to do with the topic? Yes, I am new to the forum. What does "self-assured" have anything to do with it? If someone is goign to be paid to provide a service then why would I want it to be sub par? Would you not ask a waitress to stop watching the TV while she takes your order or serves you your food? :) In regards to your other post, who knows why it happened to you and I honestly never brought up WHY because it's not important. I simply wanted there to be a responsive post about your experience so people could see right off the bat that it might have been just a bad night. I was just partaking in the point of this forum. Sharing experiences. It really sounded like you were trashing her pretty hard for what sounded like a misunderstanding. She shouldn't have taken the appointment if she was "feeling sick" but then again if she was watching TV before the show even started why wouldn't you have just said thanks but no thanks? LOL Move along good sir, I have no desire to get involved in a pointless debate like I've seen other people on this forum get in to.
EricDraven
04-13-13, 22:55
New here.
Been reading a ton and really appreciate all the insight that has been offered.
This ad is clearly fake.
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/private_-_attention_-23/10960685
Reverse image pulls up Raven Riley from 2004.Thank you Captain Obvious. There are so many obvious fake adds on Backpage if we listed them all there would be no room in his thread for useful information. Was there not enough characters available for you to put Johnson as your last name because MagmunT. Johnson would be an awesome screen name.
BahamaMama
04-13-13, 23:50
LOL Not that it has ANYTHING to do with the topic? Yes, I am new to the forum. What does "self-assured" have anything to do with it? If someone is goign to be paid to provide a service then why would I want it to be sub par? Would you not ask a waitress to stop watching the TV while she takes your order or serves you your food? :) In regards to your other post, who knows why it happened to you and I honestly never brought up WHY because it's not important. I simply wanted there to be a responsive post about your experience so people could see right off the bat that it might have been just a bad night. I was just partaking in the point of this forum. Sharing experiences. It really sounded like you were trashing her pretty hard for what sounded like a misunderstanding. She shouldn't have taken the appointment if she was "feeling sick" but then again if she was watching TV before the show even started why wouldn't you have just said thanks but no thanks? LOL Move along good sir, I have no desire to get involved in a pointless debate like I've seen other people on this forum get in to.
Refer to my previous post about you being very cocky for having contributing basically nothing to the forum. There is an etiquette to posting on here that you might want to get a handle on. You don't just come out of nowhere with no reputation, and start a "hey you don't know what you talking about" back and forth with a senior that has ten times the amount of posts you do, and about fifty times the amount of reviews. You wrote your review, and I wrote mine. People can read yours, and they can read mine. You don't need to be defending your reviews when someone ends up having a different experience. It is not a debate, it is just intel weighed against one's reputation. In case you didn't know this is exactly the reason why a whole bunch of seasoned hobbyist have bailed from the forum over the last year. Someone with 400 posts would right a review, then somone with 5 posts would pop up and start challanging them on their intel. There was a sense that people didn't know their place on here, and so people with the best info stopped sharing.
Refer to my previous post about you being very cocky for having contributing basically nothing to the forum. There is an etiquette to posting on here that you might want to get a handle on. You don't just come out of nowhere with no reputation, and start a "hey you don't know what you talking about" back and forth with a senior that has ten times the amount of posts you do, and about fifty times the amount of reviews. You wrote your review, and I wrote mine. People can read yours, and they can read mine. You don't need to be defending your reviews when someone ends up having a different experience. It is not a debate, it is just intel weighed against one's reputation. In case you didn't know this is exactly the reason why a whole bunch of seasoned hobbyist have bailed from the forum over the last year. Someone with 400 posts would right a review, then somone with 5 posts would pop up and start challanging them on their intel. There was a sense that people didn't know their place on here, and so people with the best info stopped sharing.LOL Maybe the reason people have left the forum is because "veterans" like you like to try and feel superior because of how many reviews and posts they have? This IS a forum. It is here for open conversation in regards to the type of activities that we like. If someone posts a negative review on here why is it wrong to post feedback so that maybe some people won't be negative to her if they decide to try her IF they decide to try her based on your arrogant review? I personally could care less how many posts or reviews you have made. Cockiness has nothing to do with confidence and a "reputation" on a forum has nothing to do with it hence why you are the only one who apparently has an issue. You use completely nonsensical words like "challenge" and ignorant phrases like "know their place". LOL What do you think this is, your kingdom to rule because you post count gives you some meaningless title like "senior".
Look, go your own way. You're wasting everyone's time with this ridiculous banter. LOL Do what you came here to do and don't get sore if someone wants to review your review. I didn't defend my review, I defended the girl. Have a good day there buddy, I hope you can bounce back from this experience. :)
MollyDaniels
04-14-13, 11:31
I want to thank all the lovely ladies for attending, and we will have another one next month.
Refer to my previous post about you being very cocky for having contributing basically nothing to the forum. There is an etiquette to posting on here that you might want to get a handle on. You don't just come out of nowhere with no reputation, and start a "hey you don't know what you talking about" back and forth with a senior that has ten times the amount of posts you do, and about fifty times the amount of reviews. You wrote your review, and I wrote mine. People can read yours, and they can read mine. You don't need to be defending your reviews when someone ends up having a different experience. It is not a debate, it is just intel weighed against one's reputation. In case you didn't know this is exactly the reason why a whole bunch of seasoned hobbyist have bailed from the forum over the last year. Someone with 400 posts would right a review, then somone with 5 posts would pop up and start challanging them on their intel. There was a sense that people didn't know their place on here, and so people with the best info stopped sharing.I am not particularly chatty so I don't have a number of posts; and these are the posts that I deem senseless to respond to but you have managed to elict a response. First this is not the hood so lets leave that ridiculus mentality elsewhere I. E,"You don't just come out of nowhere with no reputation, and start a "hey you don't know what you talking about" back and forth with a senior" Anyone has a right to post here unless I have misinterpeted the rules set forth. You go on to argue-It is not a debate, it is just intel weighed against one's reputation- You are the one debating.
People have different experiences with these providers. Providers allow different clients different treatment. There is a local that lets you know first thing I don't do anything with the butt. There are numerous posts reporting this. My first encounter with her she made her statement I politely declined explaining that was my thing bbbjcimws with fib. Even have had several encounters with penetration with another part of my anatomy.
Several seniors responded "no way newbie" (paraphrased) and where furious over my post. It is funny that I was called out for my lack of experience and inaccuracy in what I reported because I have used the board for almost a decade and if anyone has ever been lied to by me, ANYONE EVER. Well suffice it to say you have a greater chance of finding the winning lotto numbers.
The number of posts does not mean that somone with no previous posts does not have something valuable to contribute. So please lets not discourage them. Thank you.
I have no desire to get involved in a pointless debate like I've seen other people on this forum get in to.Not sure about the other stuff you and BM are debating (I will tell you he is very experienced and knows what he speaks of, and it is not pointless so you would be wise to listen), but I give the PhatDaty Guarantee that this statement is that of a scoundrel.
Yep, takes one to know one. You enjoy baiting folks. So I will nibble. Want to swim with the sharks?
Don't get sore if someone wants to review your review.Yeah, uhhhm, we call that quacking a review. Experienced hobby folks really don't like this practice. It is better to let multiple reviews, even when diverse, to simply stand on their own. A discerning monger well look at the big picture and make their own decision. Having different perspectives, expressed in your own review is fine and actually helpful. Telling people how to write their review, or suggesting they were wrong, not so much, unless you were there. Were you there spying on them?
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You wrote your review, and I wrote mine. People can read yours, and they can read mine. You don't need to be defending your reviews when someone ends up having a different experience. It is not a debate, it is just intel weighed against one's reputation.Without weighing in on the discussion you guys are having, I think that, generally speaking, this is what gets lost a lot on here. Starting a fight like that in either direction (noob to Senior or vice-versa) is pretty stupid. To be clear though, I wouldn't consider that to be the same thing as posting a conflicting report. Different guys get different results with same providers all the time (as the post below mentioned) , but for anyone to accuse anyone of lying in report based solely on what happened between them BCD is a waste of time at best unless there's an obvious hole in said story. Now am I more inclined to believe / act on / take to heart a BahamaMama report than a report from someone with 5 posts? Absolutely (hilarious job with the pimp, by the by; I almost shot beer out of my nose when I read that) , but that doesn't mean that the guy with 5 posts is lying, either. Frankly, I consider most posts from anyone with less than 20 or so mostly meaningless, particularly if they conflict with reports from more senior members, but stopping to call them a liar doesn't help anything.
In case you didn't know this is exactly the reason why a whole bunch of seasoned hobbyist have bailed from the forum over the last year. Someone with 400 posts would right a review, then somone with 5 posts would pop up and start challenging them on their intel. There was a sense that people didn't know their place on here, and so people with the best info stopped sharing.If that's why they left, it's disappointing that they were so thin-skinned. It's the internet. Someone is always going to be a prick. I'm not saying that most seniors haven't earned respect, but expecting to get that respect from everyone who ever logs into this board is a pipe-dream. If they were that frustrated that a member of the peanut gallery mindlessly heckled them, I'm not sure how they do anything on the internet.
Yeah, uhhhm, we call that quacking a review. Experienced hobby folks really don't like this practice. It is better to let multiple reviews, even when diverse, to simply stand on their own. A discerning monger well look at the big picture and make their own decision. Having different perspectives, expressed in your own review is fine and actually helpful. Telling people how to write their review, or suggesting they were wrong, not so much, unless you were there. Were you there spying on them?. He's right about this. It's far better to have the full range of reviews and opinions. There's no such thing as too much intel, even if you have to sift the good from the bad.
EricDraven
04-14-13, 13:29
Typing and testing and posting in public forums while drinking. Never a good idea but at least you have enough class to apologize after the fact.
Proof that friends don't let friends drink and type. You'll appreciate this message in the morning (or afternoon if you're still drinking).
Have a great day, if you can remember it. LOL.
Dz
Single malt?
I pay no attention to that sort of thing.
Think of it as breaking the ice.
Appreciate your insight and help, thanks.That 15 year old Macallan goes down smooth. No more drunk posts from me.
There are way too many great responses to quote them all. There are Seniors who are on both sides of this nonsense and there are new people on both side of it as well. I could care less about opinions, I'm pretty sure we aren't here to become buddies but yet share our experiences. I'm not going to go on and one but I am done with this topic because frankly, I spoke my mind on a review and that's it. Call it quacking, arguing, whatever the hell you want but I was imply stating an opinion and I don't need post counts to give me a title to do that, I didn't break any rules and if it was against some unspoken "code" that not everyone hold as sacred then so be it. LOL Don't let your post counts go to your head, people. That's great that you review a lot and that you give plenty of advice but you see this kind of thing with every business. Someone gets their feelings hurt by a service / business / employee and they want to go throwing out bad reviews when honestly sometimes it's the customer's action that made the experience turn south. I was speaking the truth, if you didn't like how the experience was going then stop the experience and go to someone else. I've seen plenty of people stick up for providers on here in the face of negative comments and what. Just because of my post count as a new kid on the block I don't have a proper opinion. Get over it. LOL I'm over it. Time to move on.
Of meeting my first USAG provider this week was like a elephant stomping on a two liter. It really felt that damn good.
Ms. Jasmyn James is my next fond memory maker in the near and immediate future. That is something I shall enjoy as it's part of my "before I die" list. I've been enjoying the variable of hard body spinner to thick bodied extravagance. I've decided to pull out and reach far, go outward beyond cincinnati to enjoy the flavors if the blessings register well.
Why?"because I can."
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To Admin2 for moving crap from the BP reviews section over here. And for the guys going back and forth on the Lovely Leah, seriously, can we just agree that there may be something to take away from both reviews? I am not personally offended when someone has a different outlook on someone I liked or hated. Just get over it folks.
Providers allow different clients different treatment. There is a local that lets you know first thing I don't do anything with the butt. There are numerous posts reporting this. My first encounter with her she made her statement I politely declined explaining that was my thing bbbjcimws with fib. Even have had several encounters with penetration with another part of my anatomy.I am confused. Are you talking about her anal cavity, or yours? I mean do you stick your finger in her butt as she swallows your load, or does she stick her finger in your but as she swallows you?
Or is she sticking your finger in your butt as she swallows you?
The last part I am almost afraid to ask about, but being a bit of a voyeur, I have to ask, exactly what other part of the anatomy is she penetrating, or is she taking some other part of your anatomy and then penetrating your anal cavity with it? Is it your big toe? Inquiring mines want to know.
(Note: I bet A2 is really sorry for starting this Octagon shit now.)
I am confused. Are you talking about her anal cavity, or yours? I mean do you stick your finger in her butt as she swallows your load, or does she stick her finger in your but as she swallows you?
Or is she sticking your finger in your butt as she swallows you?
The last part I am almost afraid to ask about, but being a bit of a voyeur, I have to ask, exactly what other part of the anatomy is she penetrating, or is she taking some other part of your anatomy and then penetrating your anal cavity with it? Is it your big toe? Inquiring mines want to know.
(Note: I bet A2 is really sorry for starting this Octagon shit now.) Quality of posting is way up on the other boards.
Flame away.
To Admin2 for moving crap from the BP reviews section over here. And for the guys going back and forth on the Lovely Leah, seriously, can we just agree that there may be something to take away from both reviews? I am not personally offended when someone has a different outlook on someone I liked or hated. Just get over it folks.Best viewpoint I have seen recently. Whoever is being reviewed may be the best thing since sliced bread. This does not mean I will have a good time with her. If I do not it could be for a variety of reasons. It could be her fault, it could be my fault. It may be a personality thing between the two of us.
The biggest thing I want to know from this board is if someone is legit. (I do not need a legal problem) The next thing I want to know is if I will be safe. (I do like knowing if someone is being handled or if the "boyfriend" is going to come home early) Everything beyond that is a bonus. Just because you had a good time does not mean I will. If I don't I will spend my money elsewhere next time.
Having said that I do look at reviews in order to make informed decisions as to who I should spend time with. This board is a very valuable resource and serves the needs of many people on both sides of the hobby.
Fdx
I spoke my mind on a review and that's it.You have a right to your opinion of YOUR experience with a provider, not what you think of THEIR experience with a provider is. Unless you were there, or you are clairvoyant, your commentary of their review is irrelevant and superfluous.
241758Did you shop outside of Cincinnati for a new buttplug to sit and spin on?
Quality of posting is way up on the other boards.
Flame away.Apparently A2 has a freakier side than me. I was disturbed just typing that, but I feel it needed to be said, and I do agree with A2 that the big picture is that if we keep this dustbin with open parameters we will improve the research threads drastically. Not one provider or member at any level has any excuse for muddying the waters of the important threads now that this one is wide open.
In short, post your questionable shit here, or you have no one to blame but yourself for being sanctioned for postings that disrupt the natural ebb and flow of the research and advertising threads.
BahamaMama
04-15-13, 22:44
AMEN TO THAT S*T! Happy hunting, gentlemen!Thanks again for your contribution!
Apparently A2 has a freakier side than me.Without question I do.
Lunch today, http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Derek_15-5878-2687_11898.htm
Oh how I defiled this nice young lady, she is new to the business, forever traumatized now.
Thanks again for your contribution!Sweet! I can already feel the elitist attitude that you exhibit bubbling inside of me too with every post count. LOL
You have a right to your opinion of YOUR experience with a provider, not what you think of THEIR experience with a provider is. Unless you were there, or you are clairvoyant, your commentary of their review is irrelevant and superfluous.. And you still don't get it. This is a forum. I don't understand where the confusion is? Oh, it's with your "holier than thou" expectations of senior vs new and how dare I speak up? LOL I'm just enjoying myself. Tty it sometime.;)
To Admin2 for moving crap from the BP reviews section over here. And for the guys going back and forth on the Lovely Leah, seriously, can we just agree that there may be something to take away from both reviews? I am not personally offended when someone has a different outlook on someone I liked or hated. Just get over it folks.Absolutely! Moving along. :)
LOL Received this hilarious PM from my new buddy this morning. I'm starting to really care for him in a deep and meaningful way. :)
First; the bro code is clear, YOU DONT FUCKING POST PM's! PM stand for Private Message, not Piss on Me please.
Second; we frown on members confessing that they are developing deep and meaningful relationships with other members on the board. We don't judge, it's just not what we do here.
Take note of the blue ink, this is not A2 the man speaking, but rather A2 the godlike presence on the forum.
Thanks,
A2
. And you still don't get it. This is a forum. I don't understand where the confusion is? Oh, it's with your "holier than thou" expectations of senior vs new and how dare I speak up? LOL I'm just enjoying myself. Tty it sometime.;)Read the forum rules. The review section is reserved for reviews of providers. It is not there for you to review men, unless you have fucked them. Knowing BM, I would find that doubtful, but in a weak moment, if he had been drinking and you were in your tranny goat costume, he may have let you suck his cock? Did you swallow, or don't you allow CIM?
I am not sure if Octagon has dropped all rules, but one big violation around here is disclosing the contents of a private message. It is no surprise you broke that rule today with your post above. That used to be an offense that had a high infraction point and short suspension, so perhaps we will be getting a break from you soon. You should use that break to peruse the extensive forum rules and FAQ. You won't be able to log on and view most of the pages, but you will be able to navigate around the front page where the FAQ links are.
There is a God, and you are not him. Jeffe is God, and he makes the rules. His acolyte, A2, is the judge, jury and executioner. You better start praying.
HuntLadys29
04-16-13, 16:47
Recent lurker. First post. Avid hobbyist back in 1996-2002, mostly in Walnut Hills & OTR. Since 2002, I've been strictly a window shopper. However, a couple of recent sightings have been very interesting. Anyone here know anything about these two?
-Big booty black girl, struttin' it up and down Gilbert a couple of days last week, in a pair of shorts that were way too small for that ass and those legs. Gave me a look that curled my toes.
-Stocky white brunette, nice tits, big belly, hard looking with homemade tattoos, on mcm near the curve yesterday.
Thanks for any info you can share.Why don't you stop her and ask what's up yourself, you newbies kill me starting out on the board with this been doing this a long time but you've been window shopping but you want info. Not here go out and do something then report here pertinent info then you can get some info, don't expect us to do the work take all the chances and you reap the rewards. Not here newbie.
. And you still don't get it. This is a forum. I don't understand where the confusion is? Oh, it's with your "holier than thou" expectations of senior vs new and how dare I speak up? LOL I'm just enjoying myself. Tty it sometime.;)Oh the irony of finding myself agreeing with Phat again LOL. Seriously though, its not "how dare you speak up"; I read it more as "hey these are the guidelines that we're trying to abide by, and trust us, reviewing reviews is a waste of space in the combined humble opinions of most of us. We want to hear about it if you had a different experience, but again, unless you have an EXTREMELY compelling reason to doubt someone else's report, many of us don't care if you believe it or not. Yes its a public forum, and you'll be able to get away with posting a certain amount of whatever, and that's fine, but don't expect a ton of help if / when you need Intel if all you do here is troll (and make no mistake, that's what you're doing).
Fantastically Juvenile!
LOL Received this hilarious PM from my new buddy this morning. I'm starting to really care for him in a deep and meaningful way.
First; the bro code is clear, YOU don't FUCKING POST PM's! PM stand for Private Message, not Piss on Me please.
Second; we frown on members confessing that they are developing deep and meaningful relationships with other members on the board. We don't judge, it's just not what we do here.
Take note of the blue ink, this is not A2 the man speaking, but rather A2 the godlike presence on the forum.
Thanks,
A2
Try as you might, you just can't help some people.
Fdx
BahamaMama
04-16-13, 18:29
Someone gets their feelings hurt by a service / business / employee and they want to go throwing out bad reviews when honestly sometimes it's the customer's action that made the experience turn south. I was speaking the truth, if you didn't like how the experience was going then stop the experience and go to someone else. I've seen plenty of people stick up for providers on here in the face of negative comments and what. Just because of my post count as a new kid on the block I don't have a proper opinion. Get over it. LOL I'm over it. Time to move on.Ok dude, Congrats on racking up your first twenty posts by arguing in circles over this. I didn't,"get my feelings hurt by a service." I wasn't writing a letter to Chilis telling them that their fries are cold. I was warning other seniors about a dangerous, possibly armed pimp hiding around a corner at the hotel of a provider. I even took the risk of engaging him to get a feel for if he was aggressive or not. I did this in order that I could share this info with other seniors and keep the hobbying safe. Then you came out of nowhere to criticize me with how I handled myself in the room. You would be best to cancel your handel and start off fresh, just posting reviews. You will get a lot more of the action you are looking for in the the long run.
Ok dude, Congrats on racking up your first twenty posts by arguing in circles over this. I didn't,"get my feelings hurt by a service." I wasn't writing a letter to Chilis telling them that their fries are cold. I was warning other seniors about a dangerous, possibly armed pimp hiding around a corner at the hotel of a provider. I even took the risk of engaging him to get a feel for if he was aggressive or not. I did this in order that I could share this info with other seniors and keep the hobbying safe. Then you came out of nowhere to criticize me with how I handled myself in the room. You would be best to cancel your handel and start off fresh, just posting reviews. You will get a lot more of the action you are looking for in the the long run.Don't explain yourself to this asshole. If he is too stupid to understand how valuable the intel you offered all of us was, let him find out the hard way. That is the only way he will learn. It is a pparent he has no clue how this hobby community works, especially since the dumbass broke mancode number one:
"The first rule of fight club, is you keep your fucking mouth shut about fight club."
If this cocksucker is willing to divulge a PM on a public forum, his ass needs to either be gone from here, or shun so far in the corner with regards to intel, that he is harmless.
You don't owe him shit, BM.
Ok dude, Congrats on racking up your first twenty posts by arguing in circles over this. I didn't,"get my feelings hurt by a service." I wasn't writing a letter to Chilis telling them that their fries are cold. I was warning other seniors about a dangerous, possibly armed pimp hiding around a corner at the hotel of a provider. I even took the risk of engaging him to get a feel for if he was aggressive or not. I did this in order that I could share this info with other seniors and keep the hobbying safe. Then you came out of nowhere to criticize me with how I handled myself in the room. You would be best to cancel your handel and start off fresh, just posting reviews. You will get a lot more of the action you are looking for in the the long run.No thanks. :) There are plenty level headed members both Senior and new on both sides of the fence on this. You started this pointless (but fun) conversation simply because a new guy had something to say about your review. LOL You're more than welcome to move on, I have already mentioned multiple times that I am simply amused by your continuing comments and have no desire to talk about the posts. Up to you, my friend!
LOL Received this hilarious PM from my new buddy this morning. I'm starting to really care for him in a deep and meaningful way. .
First; the bro code is clear, YOU don't FUCKING POST PM's! PM stand for Private Message, not Piss on Me please.
Second; we frown on members confessing that they are developing deep and meaningful relationships with other members on the board. We don't judge, it's just not what we do here.
Take note of the blue ink, this is not A2 the man speaking, but rather A2 the godlike presence on the forum.
Thanks,
A2I'm pretty sure I didn't divulge any names of who actually PMed me therefore really didn't violate any privacy? If you'd like to clarify that then please do so.
Read the forum rules. The review section is reserved for reviews of providers. It is not there for you to review men, unless you have fucked them. Knowing BM, I would find that doubtful, but in a weak moment, if he had been drinking and you were in your tranny goat costume, he may have let you suck his cock? Did you swallow, or don't you allow CIM?
I am not sure if Octagon has dropped all rules, but one big violation around here is disclosing the contents of a private message. It is no surprise you broke that rule today with your post above. That used to be an offense that had a high infraction point and short suspension, so perhaps we will be getting a break from you soon. You should use that break to peruse the extensive forum rules and FAQ. You won't be able to log on and view most of the pages, but you will be able to navigate around the front page where the FAQ links are.
There is a God, and you are not him. Jeffe is God, and he makes the rules. His acolyte, A2, is the judge, jury and executioner. You better start praying.LOL You worded it so colorfully! I really enjoyed your reply, thank you! :)
Oh the irony of finding myself agreeing with Phat again LOL. Seriously though, its not "how dare you speak up"; I read it more as "hey these are the guidelines that we're trying to abide by, and trust us, reviewing reviews is a waste of space in the combined humble opinions of most of us. We want to hear about it if you had a different experience, but again, unless you have an EXTREMELY compelling reason to doubt someone else's report, many of us don't care if you believe it or not. Yes its a public forum, and you'll be able to get away with posting a certain amount of whatever, and that's fine, but don't expect a ton of help if / when you need Intel if all you do here is troll (and make no mistake, that's what you're doing).LOL Well sorry to put you in that awkward position. What's done is done, I insisted in moving on and getting back to our peaceful lives.
ChickaAmante
04-16-13, 21:53
A2, is there a link to this or is it seriously private? If anything is shareable by PM, would love to know. I hope to travel there one day so would be useful. Any advice with Germany or Czech? I've heard of the FKK clubs in ISG but not sure if thats legit or just a bait and switch. And heard a lot about prague and how one can become a victim of the taxi scam there. Any experience? I will start with ISG as the day of my travel comes near.
There is a 5000 square foot mansion for visiting mongers to stay in (so long as you're not a fucking douchbag). Privados are on the way out, they actually are against the law but that's leaving room for the indies to rise.
AP is actually the red headed stepchild of the International Sex Guide which the USA used to be a part of.
A2
Bah, Bah, Bahhhhhhh! I am one sexy tranny goat! Let me show you some private information I just got in my mailbox!Hey Goat Boy, the first rule of fight club, is you DON'T talk about fucking fight club!
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No tranny pics, not even funny tranny pics, el Jeffe will shut this down in a second over that!
For the record this wasn't a real tranny pic.
A2, is there a link to this or is it seriously private? If anything is shareable by PM, would love to know. I hope to travel there one day so would be useful. Any advice with Germany or Czech? I've heard of the FKK clubs in ISG but not sure if thats legit or just a bait and switch. And heard a lot about prague and how one can become a victim of the taxi scam there. Any experience? I will start with ISG as the day of my travel comes near.Here is a pic of the dining room in the AP House. The AMA (American Mongers Association) has dinners here a couple times a month. A bunch of the Argentina crew went to Germany last summer (your summer not our summer) and they all had a good time. As unpaid slave labor (are you kidding, I would pay him to do this job) I wasn't allowed to go. Bait and switch, legit? I can't say I didn't go but all of them are going back again this year.
Prague is the one place I'm going to spend a couple months before I finally decide whether or not to buy a place down here.
If you're a douchebag I'll throw your ass out off the roof.
If you come don't schedule a vaca with two weekends, weekends suck here, do something like, get here Monday, leave the following Friday or Saturday. Best time to come is early November, the great Paraguayan exodus hasn't started and there is Steeler Football at the house on Sunday.
Don't use this as an excuse to start talking about Argentina, Germany, and Prague. El Jeffe hates that.
A2
Ok dude, Congrats on racking up your first twenty posts by arguing in circles over this. I didn't,"get my feelings hurt by a service." I wasn't writing a letter to Chilis telling them that their fries are cold. I was warning other seniors about a dangerous, possibly armed pimp hiding around a corner at the hotel of a provider. I even took the risk of engaging him to get a feel for if he was aggressive or not. I did this in order that I could share this info with other seniors and keep the hobbying safe. Then you came out of nowhere to criticize me with how I handled myself in the room. You would be best to cancel your handel and start off fresh, just posting reviews. You will get a lot more of the action you are looking for in the the long run.But since it's in rants and raves anyway, and by definition totally useless, I'll dive right in. It was pretty fun to read about you engaging the pimp, or whatever he was. But are you truly saying you've been in this as long as you have and not encountered the pimp / boyfriend / cuckolded hubby / sad pathetic hanger on in the hallway or staircase before on your way in or out? Unless said guy causes you a problem, I'm not sure where it's really an issue. Some of these girls may just keep some muscle nearby out of purely legitimate fear of what could happen if they don't have them around.
Where I've got a real issue is if I feel like the guy is actually involved in exploiting the girl or threatening the mongers. I don't see any evidence of either of these things here. It sounds, in fact, more like you were close to stepping over the line and causing needless trouble. As a general rule, getting in and out without drawing undue attention or saying anything to provoke a fight is probably a good idea I'm thinking.
BahamaMama
04-17-13, 00:23
But since it's in rants and raves anyway, and by definition totally useless, I'll dive right in. It was pretty fun to read about you engaging the pimp, or whatever he was. But are you truly saying you've been in this as long as you have and not encountered the pimp / boyfriend / cuckolded hubby / sad pathetic hanger on in the hallway or staircase before on your way in or out? Unless said guy causes you a problem, I'm not sure where it's really an issue. Some of these girls may just keep some muscle nearby out of purely legitimate fear of what could happen if they don't have them around.
Where I've got a real issue is if I feel like the guy is actually involved in exploiting the girl or threatening the mongers. I don't see any evidence of either of these things here. It sounds, in fact, more like you were close to stepping over the line and causing needless trouble. As a general rule, getting in and out without drawing undue attention or saying anything to provoke a fight is probably a good idea I'm thinking.So I am done. Good luck, not being concerned about "muscle" hanging around the girls. I hope you have family to call when the shit goes down and you are injured. You will have cops, prosecutors, court dates etc. It only takes one bad encounter. I don't like "muscle" hanging around wating for me to finish, looking into hotel windows, waiting in stairwells. In this situation, I admit, I probably was over the top. I may have been antagonizing, but I have been robbed and beaten up by the "muscle" just hanging around. Count yourself lucky to always get in and out so discreetly. I can't believe we now have a senior member being a white knight for all pimps in genereal. Jesus! WTF. It isn't always just some harmless guy hanging around. You can criticize and be complacent all you want. That is your business. You handle things your way, and I will handle them mine.
Don't explain yourself to this asshole. If he is too stupid to understand how valuable the intel you offered all of us was, let him find out the hard way. That is the only way he will learn. It is a pparent he has no clue how this hobby community works, especially since the dumbass broke mancode number one:
"The first rule of fight club, is you keep your fucking mouth shut about fight club."
If this cocksucker is willing to divulge a PM on a public forum, his ass needs to either be gone from here, or shun so far in the corner with regards to intel, that he is harmless.
You don't owe him shit, BM.LOL Entertainingly enough you seem to be the only one with that reaction. :)
Hey Goat Boy, the first rule of fight club, is you DON'T talk about fucking fight club!
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No tranny pics, not even funny tranny pics, el Jeffe will shut this down in a second over that!
For the record this wasn't a real tranny pic. Lmao This gets my award for best post of the day.
So I am done. Good luck, not being concerned about "muscle" hanging around the girls. I hope you have family to call when the shit goes down and you are injured. You will have cops, prosecutors, court dates etc. It only takes one bad encounter. I don't like "muscle" hanging around wating for me to finish, looking into hotel windows, waiting in stairwells. In this situation, I admit, I probably was over the top. I may have been antagonizing, but I have been robbed and beaten up by the "muscle" just hanging around. Count yourself lucky to always get in and out so discreetly. I can't believe we now have a senior member being a white knight for all pimps in genereal. Jesus! WTF. It isn't always just some harmless guy hanging around. You can criticize and be complacent all you want. That is your business. You handle things your way, and I will handle them mine.Christ here we go putting yourself up as a martyr again. LOL Every time someone has an opinion they are not a holy as thou. Relax man, this is just chit chat not a personal attack.
I'll clarify, my original post towards your review was intended to be just that. Conversation. I was simply comparing notes, man. LOL It really is unfortunate that you took it personally but hey there isn't anything I can do about that now. I was really excited to find this forum. So, I'm putting all of this in the garbage can and moving forward. Any of you can shun me, ignore me, give me bad advice, blah blah whatever you want but unless one of the admins wants me gone for this whole ordeal then I'll still be here sharing whatever reviews I can and asking questions to get more involved in this hobby.
Good night!
. If you're a douchebag I'll throw your ass out off the roof.
A2You know when you laugh, but you're actually terrified and the sound you make doesn't match the emotion? Yeah.
So I am done. Good luck, not being concerned about "muscle" hanging around the girls. I hope you have family to call when the shit goes down and you are injured. You will have cops, prosecutors, court dates etc. It only takes one bad encounter. I don't like "muscle" hanging around wating for me to finish, looking into hotel windows, waiting in stairwells. In this situation, I admit, I probably was over the top. I may have been antagonizing, but I have been robbed and beaten up by the "muscle" just hanging around. Count yourself lucky to always get in and out so discreetly. I can't believe we now have a senior member being a white knight for all pimps in genereal. Jesus! WTF. It isn't always just some harmless guy hanging around. You can criticize and be complacent all you want. That is your business. You handle things your way, and I will handle them mine.In this particular case, though, it sounds like you had to go out of the way a bit to find him and you were the one who initiated contact with him. In my book, that does fall into the category of looking for trouble. Maybe I missed something in the narrative, but that is what it sounded like. Did this guy hang around outside the room and look in the window? I don't recall that being part of the story. Honestly some simple precautions like drawing the blinds and putting on the deadbolt goes a long way in protecting against those particular problems.
I'm pretty sure I didn't divulge any names of who actually PMed me therefore really didn't violate any privacy? If you'd like to clarify that then please do so.Oh my,
Did the new puppy just just piss all over A2's shoes?
This should be interesting.
Oh, look. An internet tough guy. What a charmer.
Being a tool is no way to go through life, son.
Why don't you stop her and ask what's up yourself, you newbies kill me starting out on the board with this been doing this a long time but you've been window shopping but you want info. Not here go out and do something then report here pertinent info then you can get some info, don't expect us to do the work take all the chances and you reap the rewards. Not here newbie.
Having been in this for a long time it bothers me that I see ladies identified by guys as druggies, crack heads, needle users, spaced out so bad they can not provide decent service but there is no place on USASG that I can find where warnings can be put up on them. In talking with guys in this the one thing they hate most of all are ladies who are either dead between the legs or juiced / drugged beyond ability to perform, have BF's, husbands, or male security waiting for them to finish. This is not a discouragement to post but it is a hope that guys will out ladies who have drug issues of any kind, or any of the above issues stated. One other thought. How many guys and women on here if they were honest love to fuck au natural and have a number of times with high end ladies, no hands please, and how many ladies and men have IUD's or ED and deflate when they strap on a cover. The key to this is are those who do testing men and women. Do those who do stay away from drugs, needles, see men and women with excellent hygiene, no sores, keep their coochies and cocks pristine clean and see only high class men and women. I have read more reviews of women who smell like smoke factories, men who have breath that would stop a locomotive, women who have sores and men whose nether regions smell funky. With all the new psy coming on the board young and mature, isn't it time to clean out the trouble It doesn't take long and it cleans up the playing field and makes it a lot safer for us all. Most of us on here are here because we are not getting good psy, cock, head, DATY, that we aren't getting at home or in the so-called real world. There are high quality ladies who are more than willing to give us what we want and they want but cleanliness and hygiene are a must and there are plenty of free clinics for a clean bill of health. What man doesn't like a woman who drains his ck takes it all in and what woman doesn't love a man who knows how to provide her with some serious heat, meat, and pleasure? That is why we are here isn't it?
MollyDaniels
04-17-13, 11:17
I can't swim worth a shit. I'm actually scared of water that's deeper than my waist, and I desperately need to learn to swim, preferably before one of my jokester friends decides to throw me overboard on a boat this summer. Snowboarding is over for a while for me, and wake boarding may be my new summer hobby, which seems to be a lot like snowboarding.
So, are there any great swim teachers / lifeguards who want to get together for a 'teach Molly to swim' G2G? Ladies and gents would both be welcome. And, to make it more fun, there is a nudist colony in town with a great big pool that we can do this at, once it gets a bit warmer.
I'm pretty sure I didn't divulge any names of who actually PMed me therefore really didn't violate any privacy? If you'd like to clarify that then please do so.I'm treating this is an actual request for information rather than an overt act of douchebaggery since you quoted me when I wrote in blue.
It's a fairly egregious error to post PM's whether or not you release the senders name. PM's are supposed to be private and should remain so. That being said, if somebody is using PM's to threaten or extort you, report them to me and I will get our Russian hackers busy making their online life a living hell. Making a false report like that (remember I'm the Admin and can see everything) will cause me to direct our two Vlads and Nicoli at the person making the false report.
At the end of the day Hoss the rules are what I, and more importantly el Jeffe, say they are.
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You know when you laugh, but you're actually terrified and the sound you make doesn't match the emotion? Yeah.Could you clarify whether or not you just called me a pussy here? I'm not sure, and I don't want to humiliate a brother without cause.
Just checking,
A2.
Disclaimer; note the black ink, A2 the man, not A2 the god speaking.
I can't swim worth a shit. I'm actually scared of water that's deeper than my waist, and I desperately need to learn to swim, preferably before one of my jokester friends decides to throw me overboard on a boat this summer. Snowboarding is over for a while for me, and wake boarding may be my new summer hobby, which seems to be a lot like snowboarding.
So, are there any great swim teachers / lifeguards who want to get together for a 'teach Molly to swim' G2G? Ladies and gents would both be welcome. And, to make it more fun, there is a nudist colony in town with a great big pool that we can do this at, once it gets a bit warmer.First, aftermarket personal flotation devices are much cheaper here in Argentina. (not saying there is anything wrong with your perfect spinner body honey but if a pair of bolt on's would save your life in a drowning scenario I'm all for it.)
Second, if you came here we could start easy in the hot tub at the mansion. (Ok there isn't a hot tub at the mansion right now but if I need one to give you "swimming" lessons there damn sure will be post fucking haste!)
Outside of that I got nothing for you hun but wish you the best. I'm not comfortable with a member of my virtual harem being in a boat and not knowing how to swim so one of you knuckleheads, or ladies (post pics if it's one of the girls) help her out.
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I'm treating this is an actual request for information rather than an overt act of douchebaggery since you quoted me when I wrote in blue.
It's a fairly egregious error to post PM's whether or not you release the senders name. PM's are supposed to be private and should remain so. That being said, if somebody is using PM's to threaten or extort you, report them to me and I will get our Russian hackers busy making their online life a living hell. Making a false report like that (remember I'm the Admin and can see everything) will cause me to direct our two Vlads and Nicoli at the person making the false report.
At the end of the day Hoss the rules are what I, and more importantly el Jeffe, say they are.
A2I still think you should make the puppy lick the piss off your shoes. How else will he learn to be housebroken?
I'm treating this is an actual request for information rather than an overt act of douchebaggery since you quoted me when I wrote in blue.
It's a fairly egregious error to post PM's whether or not you release the senders name. PM's are supposed to be private and should remain so. That being said, if somebody is using PM's to threaten or extort you, report them to me and I will get our Russian hackers busy making their online life a living hell. Making a false report like that (remember I'm the Admin and can see everything) will cause me to direct our two Vlads and Nicoli at the person making the false report.
At the end of the day Hoss the rules are what I, and more importantly el Jeffe, say they are.
A2I don't know what the writing in blue signifies but yes it was an actual request for clarification on the rules. Thanks! :)
I don't know what the writing in blue signifies but yes it was an actual request for clarification on the rules. Thanks! :)The blue ink is reserved for Admins on the forum. When I use it, such as now, I am speaking with my authority (I know that sounds grandiose, I just don't know how else to say it) as an admin on the board and expect any replies to such posting to show a modicum of respect.
When the ink is in black, such as now, I'm speaking as myself.
If I call you a douchebag in this manner (I'm not, this is an example only) I'm calling you a douchebag as an Admin and that means you have really fucked up and you (universal you, not JustMe you) better shut the fuck up and do as I say or I'll end up banning you or editing your report to make you look like a fool.
If I call you a douchbag like this, it's just me calling you a douchbag. If you feel like it you can call me a cocksucker, nancyboy, pantie-waist, douchbag, or whatever you prefer.
That doesn't work anywhere else on the forum except this thread, anywhere else I would throw the argumentative flag on both members. However this thread is the only place I post as myself and not as an admin.
Clear?
BahamaMama
04-17-13, 13:22
Originally, my criticism of Justme79 was because he reviewed my review. I realize (in reference to my review) that a lot of thoughtful people would disagree with my attitude and approach in this case. That is expected. I was critical of Justme79 because he only had one review, and was racking up post numbers with random useless comments on other people's solid intel. This in addition to responding to my review as a way to defend his review of the same girl. Mind you this is the first girl he has ever written a post about on the board. Now, other USAG members are reviewing my review as a way to take sides in this argument. Unfortunately, that was what my problem was in the first place. That is why this could potentially go on forever. Especially considering that Justme79 has to "get the last word" with every additional reference to him. He is loving the attention no doubt. That is why this has been moved to a section of the board that nobody really cares about. If you want to go on and on reviewing my review please feel free. It really doesn't matter to me or anyone else.
I'll clarify, my original post towards your review was intended to be just that. Conversation. I was simply comparing notes, man. I'll still be here sharing whatever reviews I can. .Just to clarify:
1) Comparing notes is fine, but you do not question a review with a post, you do it back-channel through a PM if you have a question or concern.
2) If you disagree with another monger's review you have a right to that perspective, but keep it to yourself, or send a PM. If you have a different experience with that same provider, rather than in your words "review a review" from here forward, just post your own independent review and let both reviews stand independently, which will ad to the diversity of research on this forum.
3) Never disclose the contents of any PM publicly without the sender's express permission, and even then, have a good reason for doing it.
Just to clarify:
1) Comparing notes is fine, but you do not question a review with a post, you do it back-channel through a PM if you have a question or concern.
2) If you disagree with another monger's review you have a right to that perspective, but keep it to yourself, or send a PM. If you have a different experience with that same provider, rather than in your words "review a review" from here forward, just post your own independent review and let both reviews stand independently, which will ad to the diversity of research on this forum.
3) Never disclose the contents of any PM publicly without the sender's express permission, and even then, have a good reason for doing it.I'm afraid this monger must disagree with point two. If two fully qualified mongers have differing opinions I think it's ok to quote the original review and then illustrate the differences in your opinion. As we all know, YMMV is always in play and two mongers, fully qualified mongers I may add, at times have experiences so different with the same provider they may seem to be different girls. Information is power and no information is bad.
Additionally, at times, fully qualified mongers sometimes act like douchbags when a provider does something that pisses them off and post reviews that may not always be totally accurate. I can think of many other cases where two viewpoints presented in the same post (by quoting) can be of value.
The key in my opinion is the tone of the responding report. I am demonstrating collegial (is that a word?) debate with this post. I disagree with my learned friend PD, I'm not saying he is wrong as I don't presume to be the definitive authority on all things mongering. While there are many that might say PD can at times be difficult I doubt there are many that would question his mongering credentials, his opinion deserves respect and I am giving him what is his due. We can both do that and maintain respect for one an other.
When dealing with a less learned brother the same rules still apply, to an extent. On my local board I always try and start out being reasonable with noobs, we don't have the additional issue of LE to deal with (except how much to bribe them when the occasion warrants) but we do have youngsters that need gentle correction. If they persist in their nonsense I do at times resort to using my, "main de souteneur", as our brethren in France might say but only after due warning. I personally detest the hazing that so often happens on this board with the noobs. We Sr's need to teach first and punish later IMHO.
Regarding the rest of your report, I agree more than I disagree. Given the circumstances in my adopted hometown using a PM is probably the best way to ask for additional information and I have made my feelings about PM's well known.
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Originally, my criticism of Justme79 was because he reviewed my review. I realize (in reference to my review) that a lot of thoughtful people would disagree with my attitude and approach in this case. That is expected. I was critical of Justme79 because he only had one review, and was racking up post numbers with random useless comments on other people's solid intel. This in addition to responding to my review as a way to defend his review of the same girl. Mind you this is the first girl he has ever written a post about on the board. Now, other USAG members are reviewing my review as a way to take sides in this argument. Unfortunately, that was what my problem was in the first place. That is why this could potentially go on forever. Especially considering that Justme79 has to "get the last word" with every additional reference to him. He is loving the attention no doubt. That is why this has been moved to a section of the board that nobody really cares about. If you want to go on and on reviewing my review please feel free. It really doesn't matter to me or anyone else.Roll on brother, roll on. I've made what. Four different posts now stating clearly that I could care less about this whole thing anymore? You keep on saying what you have to say and I will just keep laughing. It's now just a form of entertainment. I'll still keep reading reviews, I'll still keep posting them when I have them and after I finish my rounds at the top of the forum list then I'll still scroll down here to the pits and laugh at how you drag this out. Whatever floats your boat, sir. :) You can theorize, hypothesize, psyche eval and whatever you feel you need to do.
I'm afraid this monger must disagree with point two. If two fully qualified mongers have differing opinions I think it's ok to quote the original review and then illustrate the differences in your opinion.
A2Why would you encourage such bickering that will ultimately lead to full scale jousting?
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If we truly want quality, diverse research we should encourage multiple viewpoints and experiences rather than tertiary commentary. I think it makes the research thread far more useful if it simply has reviews. A person of average intelligence can read multiple reviews and make a decision for themselves which reviews they think will best match their driving style for mileage before making a purchase. Encouraging members to pick apart another member's review will just muddy the waters and produce a bunch of sabre rattling.
It is one thing to have a playpen like this for good-natured sparring, or even a dustbin for honeybadger matches that break out organically in the wrong threads and need to be dumped here to keep the rest of the board clean, but to actually come out and encourage the practice of quacking is not advised. The white knights will charge into battle every time their damsel is in distress, even when she isn't, and the black knights will disrupt your board just for the hell of it.
Of course in the end, you and your staff will be the ones with the rakes to drag the bloody sand, so if you want to be mopping up the carnage of joust after joust, encourage the practice of "reviewing reviews."
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I am demonstrating collegial (is that a word?) debate with this post.
It is a word and you used it properly:
Colˇleˇgiˇal =Relating to or involving shared responsibility, as among a group of colleagues.
The blue ink is reserved for Admins on the forum. When I use it, such as now, I am speaking with my authority (I know that sounds grandiose, I just don't know how else to say it) as an admin on the board and expect any replies to such posting to show a modicum of respect.
When the ink is in black, such as now, I'm speaking as myself.
If I call you a douchebag in this manner (I'm not, this is an example only) I'm calling you a douchebag as an Admin and that means you have really fucked up and you (universal you, not JustMe you) better shut the fuck up and do as I say or I'll end up banning you or editing your report to make you look like a fool.
If I call you a douchbag like this, it's just me calling you a douchbag. If you feel like it you can call me a cocksucker, nancyboy, pantie-waist, douchbag, or whatever you prefer.
That doesn't work anywhere else on the forum except this thread, anywhere else I would throw the argumentative flag on both members. However this thread is the only place I post as myself and not as an admin.
Clear? You do what you need to do and roll on, sir! :) If I didn't see a reason to call the other guy names then I'm sure I won't see fit to resort to that with anyone else. Haha
That would be geniune fear. No sarcasm, no tongue in cheek. Fear.
Could you clarify whether or not you just called me a pussy here? I'm not sure, and I don't want to humiliate a brother without cause.
Just checking,
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Disclaimer; note the black ink, A2 the man, not A2 the god speaking.
I saw a review by someone with only five posts. It was two lines and basically said so-and-so is legit and really great. I did a google search on the image in the linked ad and came up with a TON of duplicate ads with different phone numbers and different names in different places. Should I just let that go or share the info? If I share the info, how much detail is appropriate?
Just to clarify:
1) Comparing notes is fine, but you do not question a review with a post, you do it back-channel through a PM if you have a question or concern.
2) If you disagree with another monger's review you have a right to that perspective, but keep it to yourself, or send a PM. If you have a different experience with that same provider, rather than in your words "review a review" from here forward, just post your own independent review and let both reviews stand independently, which will ad to the diversity of research on this forum.
3) Never disclose the contents of any PM publicly without the sender's express permission, and even then, have a good reason for doing it.
HuntLadys29
04-17-13, 19:40
Oh, look. An internet tough guy. What a charmer.
Being a tool is no way to go through life, son.First of all I'm not your son second like I said go out and look for girls yourself you come on this board and haven't given any information at all but yet you want somebody to share with you on your first post. As far as me being an Internet tough guy no I'm not just a man giving you the facts. Now I'm done with you as I said give some to get some.
HuntLadys29
04-17-13, 19:54
Oh, look. An internet tough guy. What a charmer.
Being a tool is no way to go through life, son.First off I'm not your son second like I said go talk to the girls yourself and then report back to us about the girl, on your very first post you want information and haven't given any info of your own that isn't how this board works. Now you grow a pair and earn your way to info like everybody else. You are like the fairy tale where nobody wanted to help bake the bread but they all wanted to eat. We all take chances out here getting caught by our favorite uncle so why should we take all the chances and then give you the benefits? And no I'm not an Internet tough guy I'm just a guy who likes to play with the girls and a guy who appreciates this site if you don't like it oh well but the way it is is the way it is. So please don't respond to this post or expect any info from me because now edginman you don't exist to me.
Molly I am from Miami and I spent a lot of time in the water I'd be more than happy to teach you to swim as I am cpr certified and volunteered 2 summers at a camp being a lifeguard. It won't cost you a thing. I just can't imagine losing such a sweet and darn cute provider to the water so just give me a call and we shall set up your lessons.
Mwah,
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Ok. So. Where are we? Replies to replies about reviews on reviews? Somebody got a new puppy that urinated on admins shoes?
This is the thread for insulting the admin as long as he types in black digital ink? This is awesome! smiles
The blue ink is reserved for Admins on the forum. When I use it, such as now, I am speaking with my authority (I know that sounds grandiose, I just don't know how else to say it) as an admin on the board and expect any replies to such posting to show a modicum of respect.
When the ink is in black, such as now, I'm speaking as myself.
If I call you a douchebag in this manner (I'm not, this is an example only) I'm calling you a douchebag as an Admin and that means you have really fucked up and you (universal you, not JustMe you) better shut the fuck up and do as I say or I'll end up banning you or editing your report to make you look like a fool.
If I call you a douchbag like this, it's just me calling you a douchbag. If you feel like it you can call me a cocksucker, nancyboy, pantie-waist, douchbag, or whatever you prefer.
That doesn't work anywhere else on the forum except this thread, anywhere else I would throw the argumentative flag on both members. However this thread is the only place I post as myself and not as an admin.
Clear? Have you noticed how your voice changes when you switch back and forth like that. Much more Charleston Heston like (with some reverb) in blue and kind a Ray Ramono like (through those cheap iPhone speakers) in black. Just sayin'
TheStigyEh
04-17-13, 22:37
Thus confirming, you are an ignorant douche bag sir.
I have spent hundreds, approaching thousands. And the budget, investment, and fun continues. And I'm still a newb. Get with the program. SON.
Have fun being a Troll. We on the other hand will have fun with the ladies. Better stock up on the Windex. SON.
Enough said.
Genuinely, take care,
The Stig
P. S. PWI alert for all you "home gamers"
Oh, look. An internet tough guy. What a charmer.
Being a tool is no way to go through life, son.
Have you noticed how your voice changes when you switch back and forth like that. Much more Charleston Heston like (with some reverb) in blue and kind a Ray Ramono like (through those cheap iPhone speakers) in black. Just sayin'When I was reading it I used Christopher Bale's Bruce Wayne / Batman voices. LOL
Top porn star fantasy's, who and how much.
Me?
Who? No question, Veronika Simon / Nessa Devil.
How much? 10 g's each for a Friday night to Sunday wakeup.
Molly I am from miami and I spent alot of time in the water I'd be more than happy to teach you to swim as I am cpr certified and volunteered 2 summers at a camp being a lifeguard it won't cost you a thing I just can't imagine losing such a sweet and darn cute provider to the water so just give me a call and we shall set up your lessons.
Mwah, silkI want to see pictures!
When I was reading it I used Christopher Bale's Bruce Wayne / Batman voices. LOLIt's Ricardo Montalbáand and Hervé Villechaize.
BobJones2011
04-17-13, 23:43
Top porn star fantasy's, who and how much.
Me?
Who? No question, Veronika Simon / Nessa Devil.
How much? 10 g's each for a Friday night to Sunday wakeup.Sasha Grey, $25k weekend including breakfast in bed! Hands down hottest porn star (now retired).
BobJones2011
Name your top porn star fantasies. Who? How much would you pay?I have done a few porn stars in my time, and while I have vowed to never throw that much money away again (my experience is we have plenty of hot and skilled providers that can ring my bell and blow my whistle as good as your average porn star) , I would probably make an exception for:
Jessica Drake (she is getting older so only $500)
Iwia ($750)
Allie Haze ($750)
Madison Ivy (I would pay $1000 and slice off the tip of my left pinkie)
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Madison Ivy yummy.
Sasha Grey oh yeah.
Madison Ivy yummy.
Sasha Grey oh yeah.Just trying to pad my post count.
Just trying to pad my post count.I think we can overlook your count.
I saw Krissy Minxx http://krissy.my-age.net/ when she visited Indianapolis in 2006. She was from Chicago and would be around for a month or two then disappear for six months. Someone on the Chicago board was always looking for her. When she posted for Indianapolis I thought,"Why not?" Scheduling was a snap. I felt like a fool driving there. No way would the girl behind the door really be Krissy Minxx or look like Krissy Minxx from the movies so I doubted the whole idea driving there. And this was without ever seeing one of her movies. The same thought went through my head as I knocked on the door. Then a girl with a big smile on her face opened the door looking exactly like the Krissy Minxx on the site. She was every bit the picture of Krissy Minxx I had seen and it was all I could do to not act like Opie of Mayberry. What followed was more than GFE and more than worth the standard donation at the time for two hours with a top line provider. Except for her extraordinary appearance Krissy was a normal girl-next-door, normal personality, not into herself at all, and if anything she came off insecure about being tall. Her site listed her altitude as 5'8". I'm 6'1" and she was every bit of 6"1" herself and sensitive about it. I would see her again in a heartbeat. I enjoyed her company and the conversation. I enjoyed everything. It was a real experience.
About a year later I met Sammie Sparks http://www.sammy4u.com/ and ended up seeing her more than a few times. I saw her a couple of times not knowing she was in the movies (those sites are down now). Again the experience was GFE and the standard donation at the time. I took her to a meet and greet that happened to coincide with a hobby date and she turned out to be the main attraction. Sammie was a real solid woman.
I hope both these women are doing fine.
Sasha Grey, $25k weekend including breakfast in bed! Hands down hottest porn star (now retired).
BobJones2011You might be overpaying. I saw Sasha Grey for an hour for $550 four years ago. She was worth every dime. Of course, I had more disposable income back then. I am not sure why you would pay for a weekend. Who wants to watch a gal sleep, porn star or not, and pay for it?
Molly I am from Miami and I spent a lot of time in the water I'd be more than happy to teach you to swim as I am cpr certified and volunteered 2 summers at a camp being a lifeguard. It won't cost you a thing. I just can't imagine losing such a sweet and darn cute provider to the water so just give me a call and we shall set up your lessons.
Mwah,
SilkLube not needed for this for me.
Thanks for the mental images.
I am looking forward to it.
MollyDaniels
04-19-13, 01:07
Yes Silk, we will have to do that one day. Dawn can't swim either, so it looks like you will have two students for swim school at least.
Delicious Dawn
04-19-13, 02:55
As with Molly, I cannot swim either. Nope. So, count me in too! Especially since the lessons will be at a nudist colony! Hehe.
Dawn
I can't swim worth a shit. I'm actually scared of water that's deeper than my waist, and I desperately need to learn to swim, preferably before one of my jokester friends decides to throw me overboard on a boat this summer. Snowboarding is over for a while for me, and wake boarding may be my new summer hobby, which seems to be a lot like snowboarding.
So, are there any great swim teachers / lifeguards who want to get together for a 'teach Molly to swim' G2G? Ladies and gents would both be welcome. And, to make it more fun, there is a nudist colony in town with a great big pool that we can do this at, once it gets a bit warmer.
As with Molly, I cannot swim either. Nope. So, count me in too! Especially since the lessons will be at a nudist colony! Hehe.
Dawn.Notice the blue ink. If this isn't documented with both still and motion photography I'm banning you all!
Ok not really, but please, pretty please.
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