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MollyDaniels
01-30-14, 13:49
I know we have had this discussion before, and I'm starting a project called the Wall of Shame on my website. It's a list of providers who don't respond to reference requests. Ladies can post their experiences anonymously. Hopefully it will help us all with the issue of reliable references. I have a couple entries so far; I just need a few more before I update the table.
Wall of Shame.
www.mollydaniels.com/wall-of-shame.phtml
Any feedback or help is appreciated.
So this is me, the guy, not the godlike presence on the forum with a question. I was working today and I saw this;.
I'm 45, 260, 5'6" 55 hh. 90 h.I don't judge, I never do, whatever two consenting adults want to do is not only fine by me, but also none of my fucking business. It does seem to me that if one was into short, really, really heavy middle aged women, that one might just need to stop in at some honky tonk near any big trailer park and one could find pert near as many as one might want. Shit seems like you could do it by going to Wally World if no trailer parks were handy.
Believe me I'm behind the idea of how easy P4 P sex is, no drama, my terms, ect. One of my minimums though is if I'm going to give some chick some money, she needs to be hotter than I can normally pull by just buying her a drink. Or in this case walking up and asking her if she feels like fucking.
Somebody got to school me on this because I just don't get it.
A2.
Most big girls I know at bars guard their giners like fort knox. Also, they are sometimes in demand from some brothers who prefer big girls. At the moment, though, I think I'll go looking for the ad you saw. LOL.
So this is me, the guy, not the godlike presence on the forum with a question. I was working today and I saw this;.
I don't judge, I never do, whatever two consenting adults want to do is not only fine by me, but also none of my fucking business. It does seem to me that if one was into short, really, really heavy middle aged women, that one might just need to stop in at some honky tonk near any big trailer park and one could find pert near as many as one might want. Shit seems like you could do it by going to Wally World if no trailer parks were handy.
Believe me I'm behind the idea of how easy P4 P sex is, no drama, my terms, ect. One of my minimums though is if I'm going to give some chick some money, she needs to be hotter than I can normally pull by just buying her a drink. Or in this case walking up and asking her if she feels like fucking.
Somebody got to school me on this because I just don't get it.
A2.
Most big girls I know at bars guard their giners like fort knox. Also, they are sometimes in demand from some brothers who prefer big girls. At the moment, though, I think I'll go looking for the ad you saw. LOL.Down here a 45 year old woman that was 5'6" and 260 lbs would die of shock of some guy sent her a drink. I'm seriously not judging, either the chick or guys that like them. Maybe it's because my lunch today only cost me 40 bucks for an hour.
http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Ruby_4313-4804_13002.htm
I know we have had this discussion before, and I'm starting a project called the Wall of Shame on my website. It's a list of providers who don't respond to reference requests. Ladies can post their experiences anonymously. Hopefully it will help us all with the issue of reliable references. I have a couple entries so far; I just need a few more before I update the table.
Wall of Shame.
www.mollydaniels.com/wall-of-shame.phtml
Any feedback or help is appreciated.It's a good idea, but you could also end up with some resentful ladies if you host it on your site. Maybe another section on USSG, for ladies only.
Also, some feedback on your website in general. You need to update your pics on your website. As cool as they are, they have been around for a while, over a year. A lot can change in a year, just saying.
Although my leash is not particularly tight, I've opted to avoid the two phone strategy and rely on GV. I have an iPhone and use the GV app. I have a ton of apps so the GV app icon kind of disappears in the mess. Texting works great and there's no indication of any incoming texts to alert anybody. You can use GV to select which phone you want it to use to connect. I just keep the Do Not Disturb function activated so there are no interruptions. I keep my History mostly purged just in case. The only minus for me it doesn't allow picture attachments. And I dunno how it would work for non-iPhones. So far, so good, though. Knock on wood!
Best part? It's free!!I have decided to use an app called talkatone. It works well.
Baiting assholes that threaten me through PM's. It's always the same. First they accuse me of being some kind of keyboard commando, then they get brave and tell me how they would kick my ass if I was in front of them. Actually it's usually more like "I wud kik you're azz if your in front of me." I live in a country where I can get that kind of shit handled for a chicken leg. Sure come on down, send me a photo and I'll meet you, no seriously, I will. I live in a place called Villa 31, right in between the two burned out shacks by the paco dealer. Yeah the favella with the 100 dead bodies rotting behind it. It's like the 2nd or 3rd most corrupt country in Latin America depending on what list you read AND it's in the middle of a political and economic meltdown. Sure, come on down and kick my ass, don't forget that picture though. Flight information would be great.
Then they try and humiliate me by saying I'm an admin on a hooker board and I'm such a loser I have to pay for sex. I think to myself, "wait, this started on a forum where you were posting about paying for sex." Seriously, how can they be so fucking stupid?
Don't get me wrong, the vast majority of people here, especially in my adopted home town are pretty interesting and I'm proud to consider myself a member of this community but some of them are just unbelievably stupid.
Ok end of rant.
A2.
Here is another previously unposted photo of Ally in black & white for the black & white fans. She is very, very inviting. Her invitation included putting on a female condom for me, which I was curious about. But alas, I am just too old and lazy to fuck! Lucky for me, she is not too lazy to suck. Maybe next time I will eat a box of wheaties, or maybe even her box. I am sure she would accomodate me. I think she is that kind of girl. Looking forward to it.
I gave a provider reference to someone recently and the provider did not acknowledge that she received my reply and did not say thank you. So, I for one will not give her another reference in the future. I didn't have to give her the one that I did and for her to not be appreciative of my time was a HUGE turn off for me to ever give her another one. I won't mention who it was, as I'm not into the drama, but what about instances like this? I've also had providers tell the client that they tried to get a hold of me with no reply, to in turn have the client contact me themselves to tell me this. I then have to inform the client no she didn't contact me at all, perhaps she just doesn't want to see you and is blaming no reference checks on the providers that were given to her. Also, what about providers that only send a persons first name, phone number or email address? I don't know about anyone else, but I can't give a proper verification with that limited info. As, I don't keep client info, unless of course they are regulars and I happen to recall a name that is referenced. If the provider contacting me doesn't have enough sense to ask for something that only I would know then I'm not probing for her to do it. Provider references are good for verifying that a gentlemen isn't LE but as far as confirming that the person was safe, all that you can comment on is if he was safe with you in the experience that the two of you shared. Otherwise, I can't be accountable for what that same person does with or to another provider.
CX.
I know we have had this discussion before, and I'm starting a project called the Wall of Shame on my website. It's a list of providers who don't respond to reference requests. Ladies can post their experiences anonymously. Hopefully it will help us all with the issue of reliable references. I have a couple entries so far; I just need a few more before I update the table.
Wall of Shame.
www.mollydaniels.com/wall-of-shame.phtml
Any feedback or help is appreciated.
Instead of complaining which provider is or isn't returning phone calls, why don't providers just acknowledge a review when one is posted, specially by a newbie? Good review or bad review, a simple, "Thank you. I had a good time too.", or a "I'm sorry you didn't have a good time. I will work on the issues you brought up." will get you more repeat business that back channeling each other.
Also, if an established provider "taps" a newbie on the shoulder, anointing him, so to speak, it alerts other people that he is a legitimate, his reviews will carry more weight with other clients.
It's the same for senior members, mentioning that they have spent time with a new girl. When a senior verifies a provider with a public review, there is less jockeying and pushing as to who will risk taking one for the team.
Arguing a review is not permitted, but a simple "thank you" is always a welcome addition. When I see a provider do that, and even acknowledge some of the problems that might have been mentioned in the review, my respect for them goes up. Natti GFE did that when people complained about the neatness of her incall; she apologized, cleaned up, and things were better.
If the person seeking a reference is a member of this board I always thought it to be a better practice to contact me on here first, then I can do research on the person contacting me. If further info was needed then at that time I could go from there, instead of contacting a provider who probably won't contact me back anyway. There are other ways to verify someone rather than a provider reference, sometimes less time consuming as well.
Instead of complaining which provider is or isn't returning phone calls, why don't providers just acknowledge a review when one is posted, specially by a newbie? Good review or bad review, a simple, "Thank you. I had a good time too.", or a "I'm sorry you didn't have a good time. I will work on the issues you brought up." will get you more repeat business that back channeling each other.
Also, if an established provider "taps" a newbie on the shoulder, anointing him, so to speak, it alerts other people that he is a legitimate, his reviews will carry more weight with other clients.
It's the same for senior members, mentioning that they have spent time with a new girl. When a senior verifies a provider with a public review, there is less jockeying and pushing as to who will risk taking one for the team.
Arguing a review is not permitted, but a simple "thank you" is always a welcome addition. When I see a provider do that, and even acknowledge some of the problems that might have been mentioned in the review, my respect for them goes up. Natti GFE did that when people complained about the neatness of her incall; she apologized, cleaned up, and things were better.
FantasyFancy
01-31-14, 22:52
I did the same thing was sorry and promise it wouldn't happen again and asked for another chance we are all ham and all make mistakes I even asked for help on how to improve you won't no your messing up unless your told I appreciate the criticism thanks guys for making me relize and change my wrongs to rights thanks again guys!
SilkyWetness
01-31-14, 23:09
I know we have had this discussion before, and I'm starting a project called the Wall of Shame on my website. It's a list of providers who don't respond to reference requests. Ladies can post their experiences anonymously. Hopefully it will help us all with the issue of reliable references. I have a couple entries so far; I just need a few more before I update the table.
Wall of Shame.
www.mollydaniels.com/wall-of-shame.phtml
Any feedback or help is appreciated.I think I'm the first to post on their but I posted sevearl names my personal opinion is business must be slow for them and their being stingy I for one always give a reference just because I'd want someone to give me the same in return we all should be working together and not against but then again this is a competitive job and not everyones as nice as dawn molly or myself.
Instead of complaining which provider is or isn't returning phone calls, why don't providers just acknowledge a review when one is posted, specially by a newbie? Good review or bad review, a simple, "Thank you. I had a good time too.", or a "I'm sorry you didn't have a good time. I will work on the issues you brought up." will get you more repeat business that back channeling each other.
Also, if an established provider "taps" a newbie on the shoulder, anointing him, so to speak, it alerts other people that he is a legitimate, his reviews will carry more weight with other clients.
It's the same for senior members, mentioning that they have spent time with a new girl. When a senior verifies a provider with a public review, there is less jockeying and pushing as to who will risk taking one for the team.
Arguing a review is not permitted, but a simple "thank you" is always a welcome addition. When I see a provider do that, and even acknowledge some of the problems that might have been mentioned in the review, my respect for them goes up. Natti GFE did that when people complained about the neatness of her incall; she apologized, cleaned up, and things were better.When I get asked to provide references, I can run down a fairly long list, some of which I haven't reviewed on here. I've changed my style of writing reviews here because I've got a few that if I could, I'd retract for the following reasons:
Phone Hustling.
Panic Borrowing.
Specials.
I haven't been burned, just tired of the BS hustle where I'm now your crisis fix and that's not why we met. In true fashion this opens the doors to new experiences with others, plain and simple. But the mere mention of this site along with the well knowns I've seen are usually enough to trigger the acceptance of meeting. I know these reasons for requirements of needing these, other providers have given me the intel.
But I'm going to lay blame at my feet; I've tried out some of the not-so-popular providers and in true fashion the experiences are predictable. Moving along to warm and moist horizons.
So this is me, the guy, not the godlike presence on the forum with a question. I was working today and I saw this;.
I don't judge, I never do, whatever two consenting adults want to do is not only fine by me, but also none of my fucking business. It does seem to me that if one was into short, really, really heavy middle aged women, that one might just need to stop in at some honky tonk near any big trailer park and one could find pert near as many as one might want. Shit seems like you could do it by going to Wally World if no trailer parks were handy.
Believe me I'm behind the idea of how easy P4 P sex is, no drama, my terms, ect. One of my minimums though is if I'm going to give some chick some money, she needs to be hotter than I can normally pull by just buying her a drink. Or in this case walking up and asking her if she feels like fucking.
Somebody got to school me on this because I just don't get it.
A2.Here it is: Arnold Schwarzenegger. House maid.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01899/Schwarzenegger_1899471c.jpg
I lean towards the thicker non-attractive types. I like them like Arnold does. He was interviewed on the reasons why he didn't appreciate the beautiful ones. It's a comfort zone of sorts. I will test the dynamics of a spinner every now and then, some of the better looking ladies to see if the personalities jive with the looks. Being self confident is one thing but I want what looks like the women I interact with daily.
I'll admit, I've had relations with some very ugly looking women but I made their day (literally) and achieved nut. Feels good to make an unattractive woman catch a break every now and then, and some of them look pretty damn good with their clothes off. You can find about 3 million of them on Eroprofile, a bookmarked favorite of mine. Nothing better than the sleeper types where the plain looking woman strips down to be something one of a kind in beauty, and there are some really killer looking bodies attached to non-attractive faces, older, matures. The well known Lady Sonia; not a fan of her facial beauty but that woman is by all means a true cock artist. Not a bad body for 40-50+ and ya can't have it all when you're nearing those ages in women.
Two kinds of fat, I try to not bear witness to the ones that look like garbage bags full of wet clumpy grass. The buxom, curvaceous, voluptuous types even though hard to find, worth the time if it's your forte'. If Samantha 38G ever happens to visit this area I'll be sure to donate more than a few good times, or Southern Belle Claudia-Marie. Both porn stars but they occaisionally have fun with a select few of their fan base.
The heavier, non-attractive ones seem to appreciate the offerings a lot better than the ones that count on the expected desire to merge.
Member #4483
02-01-14, 08:54
Just an FYI if you are going to put a disclaimer on your ads for such things as not LE and not Entrapment, you might NOT want to list the services you offer. I have seen several girls do this, and it's like an oxymoron to list your services, but then put a disclaimer.NOT ONLY are such so-called legal disclaimers meaningless and therefore just plain dumb, they are also a waste of storage space.
I'm willing to bet that nearly every prosecutor in this country would introduce such silly legal disclaimers in their case-in-chief to show, at the very least, at least three of the four possible degrees of culpability, which are. . .
"purposely" acting with respect to a material element of the offense, that is, a person causes a result purposely if the result is her goal in doing the action that causes it. . .
"knowingly" acting with respect to a material element of the offense, that is, a person causes a result knowingly if she knows that the result is virtually certain to occur from the action she undertakes, and. . .
"recklessly" acting with respect to a material element of the offense, that is, when a person should be aware of a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the material element exists or will result from her conduct.
Thus, in criminal law, if someone acts "purposely," they also act "knowingly," and if someone acts "knowingly," they also act "recklessly".
THE BOTTOM LINE is that posting those so-called legal disclaimers does nothing more than essentially prove that a person knows what they are doing is breaking the law. AND I SINCERELY BELIEVE it could work in reverse also to show / prove a MONGER's culpability if the Monger ever admitted to LE that he saw / read the provider's Ad (s).
I've always figured that a provider who posts such silly "jailhouse lawyer legal disclaimers" has little to no scruples whatsoever and, as a consequence, to the best of my knowledge, I have never (and will never) visit anyone that dumb. Yeah, sure, she may be able to suck a golf ball through a 100-feet garden hose in a matter of seconds but it's still NOT worth the risk to me -- meaning I believe that if she is that dense, then she is highly likely to be making other stupid decisions and mistakes that could ultimately lead to all kinds of undesirable and / or nasty results, none of which I want or need.
Providers Who Post "Jailhouse Lawyer Legal Disclaimers" Have No Common Sense, IMHO, and for that Reason Remain in My TOP 3 Rules for Why I "DO NOT PATRONIZE"!
Countryboy72
02-01-14, 13:14
So what was it that was NEAR her location? Was it the hotel that has a Police Station about a block away?Isn't this best sent as a pm? Why not a room number too at this point. I might want to see this lady, discretion. IMHO.
Thank you. This was an excellent post. I always thought those posts were useless but this is very educational as to why and that they are even worse than useless.
NOT ONLY are such so-called legal disclaimers meaningless and therefore just plain dumb, they are also a waste of storage space.
I'm willing to bet that nearly every prosecutor in this country would introduce such silly legal disclaimers in their case-in-chief to show, at the very least, at least three of the four possible degrees of culpability, which are. . .
........
Providers Who Post "Jailhouse Lawyer Legal Disclaimers" Have No Common Sense, IMHO, and for that Reason Remain in My TOP 3 Rules for Why I "DO NOT PATRONIZE"!
TheDaytimer
02-01-14, 15:59
There are certain things that are best not put in a public forum and too much specifics on location is one of those things. I think there have been enough hints that we should leave it at that. I suggest you PM someone and ask if it is really important to know.My post was SARCASTIC. Anyone who partakes in the hobby, would recognize what was in the post INCLUDING the guys in the nearby establishment and I agree the original post should not have mentioned it.
MassageFreak
02-01-14, 20:01
I literally shit my pants ...I circled and almost just left town.
LMAO at the "what was near location" Ha ha. I think the saying keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer rings the bell. Lmao Yeah, freaked me out the first time. I was like " you are fucking kidding right"? Would be a transportation saver! Just spilled my drink lmao!.
So what was it that was NEAR her location? Was it the hotel that has a Police Station about a block away?The police station is basically right next to her place, if you missed it.
Utr In Ohio
02-03-14, 09:16
Reasons I will give out refs.
1). A good Monger I know ask me to do so.
2). The provider asking me has more than one year of good reports here.
Reasons I will not.
1). I don't like to get involved with newbies.
2). I know some of these girls have never even logged onto USASG.
3). Too many aliases used by SW types to track.
4). I don't involve myself with girls who may have been busted.
*if your a client of mine and want to use me as a ref. Let me know its OK to share your info with?
MassageFreak
02-03-14, 09:47
Why don't I post the exact address? I didn't post location for a reason! Total newbie move! Never post things like that! Aren't you aware that uncle Leo is prolly hiding on this site or at least watching it? And you all wonder why some seniors only give intel via private message! Just one more reason I'm debating leaving this site and going utr. MF
The police station is basically right next to her place, if you missed it..
The police station is basically right next to her place, if you missed it.What the fudge? You just outed a provider. The town she lives in is known, her photo is posted, and now you basically just gave her GPS location. For what? Just to post something most people could assume by reading between the lines just so you can increase your post count? Duuuude. Not cool.
Natti, move. Move now. Move before you take another in call appt.
What the fudge? You just outed a provider. The town she lives in is known, her photo is posted, and now you basically just gave her GPS location. For what? Just to post something most people could assume by reading between the lines just so you can increase your post count? Duuuude. Not cool.
Natti, move. Move now. Move before you take another in call appt.Some people are just too fucking stupid. I've seen Natti several times. She's totally cleaned up her act (and her incall). It's still cramped and not the Taj Mahal but it's cleaner. She was already planning on moving. I talked to her last night and she said she'll hopefully be relocated within a week. Hopefully LEO doesn't track her down between now and then. What the hell do people think sometimes?
BuyingSmiles
02-03-14, 11:03
Why don't I post the exact address? I didn't post location for a reason! Total newbie move! Never post things like that! Aren't you aware that uncle Leo is prolly hiding on this site or at least watching it? And you all wonder why some seniors only give intel via private message! Just one more reason I'm debating leaving this site and going utr. MF
.I don't know why, all of the sudden it's an issue. The location has been the same for some time now. All of the sudden, people caught a case of the dumbass and started publicly announcing it. It's almost like they want her or one of us to get busted.
She is sweet girl and doesn't deserve this kind of publicity. I would hope all the guys that posted about it ask A2 to delete their post. Or maybe he will do it, with out their request. Nothing good can come out of publicly announcing specifics about any providers location.
I don't know why, all of the sudden it's an issue. The location has been the same for some time now. All of the sudden, people caught a case of the dumbass and started publicly announcing it. It's almost like they want her or one of us to get busted.
She is sweet girl and doesn't deserve this kind of publicity. I would hope all the guys that posted about it ask A2 to delete their post. Or maybe he will do it, with out their request. Nothing good can come out of publicly announcing specifics about any providers location.I realize I'm a newbie on this site and have yet to see this provider and have been wanting to. I think now I will have to wait till she moves or I believe their is no heat on her. She could have lost business due to this info being ousted here which is sad. To the one who first posted this info (How would you like it if a provider came to your home and then described the area you live in so others could find you easily).
Well, I'm going to stick my 2 cents in for what its worth. Re the posts potentially bringing heat down on a provider, I suggest that those of you guys who are friends of hers all chip in and get her a room for the next week, and get her sweet ass moved to a new place. Chip in for the security deposit, rent a damn you-haul truck, and move her. From what I've read, she is a great friend, and considering what has happened, we should not leave her in the lurch when all it will take to keep her safe is a few dollars. If 10 guys all pitch in what could it cost, $50 bucks each? And by the way, I'm in Cleveland, if I was there I would jump right in.
Cheech.
http://www.barstoolsports.com/m/nyc/super-page/couple-dies-in-a-car-having-sex/
Off topic but related.
MassageFreak
02-03-14, 22:21
I never post details about my encounters or locations so the ladies in question remain as anonymous as possible. I think its bad form. MF
I don't know why, all of the sudden it's an issue. The location has been the same for some time now. All of the sudden, people caught a case of the dumbass and started publicly announcing it. It's almost like they want her or one of us to get busted.
She is sweet girl and doesn't deserve this kind of publicity. I would hope all the guys that posted about it ask A2 to delete their post. Or maybe he will do it, with out their request. Nothing good can come out of publicly announcing specifics about any providers location..
I thought this was a gag, but apparently the same folks that bring you the "Fuck a Fan" videos that allow guys to have a PSE with the porn star they have under contract of your choice (at a hefty price and you have to agree to allow them to release the video) have taken the plunge to offer affordable anonymous PSE via virtual sex using live video / audio feed, and two mutual USB devices that provide a "realistic" experience:
http://www.realtouchinteractive.com/find_a_model.php
So who will be the first provider here to offer services? It looks like any woman can resister as a "model" even if they are not a "celebrity.".
Not sure how the experience will be, but after the initial investment on the hardware and interface membership, the rates are VERY reasonable, especially if you browse down and just look for regular ladies looking to earn some quick cash from the safety of their private undisclosed location.
If this thing really works, just think--low cost, low risk hobbying for both the client and the provider.
A2, you and your business partners need to get out in front of this!
I don't know about the rest of you, but if this works, and I just want an affordable quickie in the afternoon without leaving my home, I have to admit that I will be tempted to buy the device and join the site.
As anyone ever tried this, and does it work as well as they claim?
Here is one review I found on it:
http://www.gizmag.com/nsfw-review-realtouch-sex-toy-for-men/26804/
I thought this was a gag, but apparently the same folks that bring you the "Fuck a Fan" videos that allow guys to have a PSE with the porn star they have under contract of your choice (at a hefty price and you have to agree to allow them to release the video) have taken the plunge to offer affordable anonymous PSE via virtual sex using live video / audio feed, and two mutual USB devices that provide a "realistic" experience:
http://www.realtouchinteractive.com/find_a_model.php
So who will be the first provider here to offer services? It looks like any woman can resister as a "model" even if they are not a "celebrity.".
Not sure how the experience will be, but after the initial investment on the hardware and interface membership, the rates are VERY reasonable, especially if you browse down and just look for regular ladies looking to earn some quick cash from the safety of their private undisclosed location.
If this thing really works, just think--low cost, low risk hobbying for both the client and the provider.
A2, you and your business partners need to get out in front of this!
I don't know about the rest of you, but if this works, and I just want an affordable quickie in the afternoon without leaving my home, I have to admit that I will be tempted to buy the device and join the site.
As anyone ever tried this, and does it work as well as they claim?
Here is one review I found on it:
http://www.gizmag.com/nsfw-review-realtouch-sex-toy-for-men/26804/I tried the "Fuck a Fan" thing...but as soon as one of those blades whacked my pecker..I said never again.
ClassASweetie
02-05-14, 04:39
Reasons I will give out refs.
1). A good Monger I know ask me to do so.
2). The provider asking me has more than one year of good reports here.
Reasons I will not.
1). I don't like to get involved with newbies.
2). I know some of these girls have never even logged onto USASG.
3). Too many aliases used by SW types to track.
4). I don't involve myself with girls who may have been busted.
*if your a client of mine and want to use me as a ref. Let me know its OK to share your info with?Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.
Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.
"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.
So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.
It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".
Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.
WordSmithFour
02-05-14, 14:45
Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.
Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.
"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.
So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.
It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".
Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.I'm sure I will catch hell from some on this board, but I don't mind saying openly that in all my dealings with Buddah, he has shown himself to be professional, honest and straightforward--whether our conversation dealt with business or not. I find his ladies to be some of the best this city has to offer, and his role has never given me reason to pause before contacting him. I can't speak for others, but as for me--Buddah and UTR are the way this business should be run.
Utr In Ohio
02-05-14, 15:34
Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.
Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.
"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.
So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.
It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".
Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.OK let me ad to my list I won't help disease spreading skanks who do bare back!
My choice!
PillowTalk69
02-05-14, 15:36
What my brother and I like doesn't mean that is what we get. It is and has ALWAYS been the ladies choice, not ours. When a lady asks us our likes we tell them but we also say it is their option. Whether you chose to let us see your ladies is YOUR CHOICE, they are YOUR ladies.
But you should NEVER judge another provider by the fact they associate with us or like us because it DOES NOT MEAN THEY GIVE US WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. If you called a woman a DOG for associating with us I would ask every client on this board to BLACKBALL you for it. That is treating a woman like scum and especially a woman who is considered a reputable and kind lady. To refuse if you did to give references based on what you think we MIGHT have done is understandable but also doing a disservice to the provider and her protection with other clients.
Sorry BUDDAH. I like you and the way you run your business whether I get any of your pussy or not. And there are things you have told me you have sat with other providers and done that would not set well but I will refrain from sharing those along with things you have been asked to provide out side of the hobby especially to one male in particular.
My concern with you and other men on this board is to stop stereotyping myself and my brother based on what you have heard instead of what you know FOR SURE. I have told my brother to stay out of this because he has a family to protect. I don't. Just remember that people who live in glass houses and that includes all of us shouldn't throw stones. Nuff said by me and I will move on. I suggest you quit playing the angel you pretend to be and concentrate on your business. You do a good job, I will give you that. But stick with what you know, not what you think you do or have been told. Works much better. And for your edification neither my brother or I have EVER SEEN a street walker We stick with quality ladies or ladies vetted by well thought of men and hobbyists on this board.
SashaBlack
02-05-14, 16:40
What my brother and I like doesn't mean that is what we get. It is and has ALWAYS been the ladies choice, not ours. When a lady asks us our likes we tell them but we also say it is their option. Whether you chose to let us see your ladies is YOUR CHOICE, they are YOUR ladies.
But you should NEVER judge another provider by the fact they associate with us or like us because it DOES NOT MEAN THEY GIVE US WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. If you called a woman a DOG for associating with us I would ask every client on this board to BLACKBALL you for it. That is treating a woman like scum and especially a woman who is considered a reputable and kind lady. To refuse if you did to give references based on what you think we MIGHT have done is understandable but also doing a disservice to the provider and her protection with other clients.
Sorry BUDDAH. I like you and the way you run your business whether I get any of your pussy or not. And there are things you have told me you have sat with other providers and done that would not set well but I will refrain from sharing those along with things you have been asked to provide out side of the hobby especially to one male in particular.
My concern with you and other men on this board is to stop stereotyping myself and my brother based on what you have heard instead of what you know FOR SURE. I have told my brother to stay out of this because he has a family to protect. I don't. Just remember that people who live in glass houses and that includes all of us shouldn't throw stones. Nuff said by me and I will move on. I suggest you quit playing the angel you pretend to be and concentrate on your business. You do a good job, I will give you that. But stick with what you know, not what you think you do or have been told. Works much better. And for your edification neither my brother or I have EVER SEEN a street walker We stick with quality ladies or ladies vetted by well thought of men and hobbyists on this board.First paragraph.
I'm a little confused here. I do not belong to Buddha nor do any of the ladies he works with. Buddha has two simple rules and if you don't follow them, well he don't work with you.
Rule 1: USE A FUCKING CONDOM.
Rule 2: If you say you'll be there... Be there.
I belong to ME!
Also...
I go by what I read on the boards and it shows that you and your brother like BB, I personally don't want to risk myself or the hassle of explaining something my kids (like your brother I'm a family woman) to associate myself with gentlemen or ladies that offer that.
Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.NEVER publish PM's if they identify the sender. You can post "I got a PM from some guy asking blah" (if the blah doesn't identify him) but PM's mean PRIVATE message. It's in the Octagon and I saw it was argumentative but didn't notice it was a PM. Budda said he's ok with it being published, which is the only reason it's still here. Nuff Said.
The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback.This is untrue, guys can post that they did BB with some chick. They can't BRAG about it, it has to be informational, they can't post about it all the time, they can't describe chicks that don't do it as subpar. They can say, as with any info, I fucked X and we did Y.
A2
Clear your inbox.
Thanks,
Fdx.
PillowTalk69
02-05-14, 22:32
First paragraph.
I'm a little confused here. I do not belong to Buddha nor do any of the ladies he works with. Buddha has two simple rules and if you don't follow them, well he don't work with you.
Rule 1: USE A FUCKING CONDOM.
Rule 2: If you say you'll be there... Be there.
I belong to ME!
Also...
I go by what I read on the boards and it shows that you and your brother like BB, I personally don't want to risk myself or the hassle of explaining something my kids (like your brother I'm a family woman) to associate myself with gentlemen or ladies that offer that.We like bb doesn't say we do it with all the women we see does it?. NO IT DOESN'T. If you read the first paragraph closely it says if women ask what we like we express ALL OUR LIKES It then becomes up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. That has always been that way. We treat women with respect. We don't as your boss says treat women like dogs. That is cheap shit rolling out of his mouth. He sets up your dates your locations according to him. Takes a cut of your work and sets the rules. I would say it "appears" you work for and belong to him and do it his way, not as if you were on your own making your own arrangements. If not you would probably be on your own doing your own thing. Your call and since I don't see any of his ladies when they work for him his and your choice. If I like something it doesn't mean I or my brother get it. Just as if I read on the board you or some other lady liked it doesn't mean she does it or gives it HUH? I appreciate your dedication but unless you know for a fact I have done bb with a well known lady on this board for SURE it becomes just a rumor so I promise YOU THIS. I won't spread what I have heard or read about you or anyone else if you don't spread shit about me. Fair enough? Works for me and I hope works for you. Any man who calls a woman a dog without proof is the scum of the earth because he likes to spread shit. This is about getting sex not spreading shit about people. I won't spread any rumors about you or your friends Afford me the same courtesy. Works for me and I hope works for you. Have a good week / weekend.
Instead of complaining which provider is or isn't returning phone calls, why don't providers just acknowledge a review when one is posted, specially by a newbie? Good review or bad review, a simple, "Thank you. I had a good time too.", or a "I'm sorry you didn't have a good time. I will work on the issues you brought up." will get you more repeat business that back channeling each other.
Also, if an established provider "taps" a newbie on the shoulder, anointing him, so to speak, it alerts other people that he is a legitimate, his reviews will carry more weight with other clients.
It's the same for senior members, mentioning that they have spent time with a new girl. When a senior verifies a provider with a public review, there is less jockeying and pushing as to who will risk taking one for the team.
Arguing a review is not permitted, but a simple "thank you" is always a welcome addition. When I see a provider do that, and even acknowledge some of the problems that might have been mentioned in the review, my respect for them goes up. Natti GFE did that when people complained about the neatness of her incall; she apologized, cleaned up, and things were better.Just wondering, not trying to make the board more complicated but what if a thread was started for this purpose only. It could be called "Been there done that" or anything else appropriate.
The purpose would not be for a review but to affirm someone is legit. Have it be two sentence max. "I saw Sydney Moore. Had a good time." Then Hopefully Sydney would reply "Thanks Fdx17. Hope to see you again.".
As long as each contributor put the other persons name in the post you could do a search on the name "Sydney Moore" and quickly come up with everyone who has seen her. Vise versa a provider could search "Fdx17" and see any provider who has acknowledged my visit.
A monger could do a search on Sydney Moore and find Fdx17 has seen her. If he is comfortable he could move on or he could then do a search on Fdx17 and find out what providers have confirmed him. Lets say he finds Natti GFE has seen him. The monger himself has seen Natti GFE thereby knowing that Sydney is probably a legit provider.
Just throwing it out there. If it makes sense it could be our version of a green dot that other Indypendant sites use. If it doesn't make sense disregard.
Fdx17.
ClassASweetie
02-05-14, 23:59
OK let me ad to my list I won't help disease spreading skanks who do bare back!
My choice!First of all I don't do bareback and I am clean as a whistle and I get checked every three months. And I have papers to prove it. I am an independent provider and would never pay a dirtbag like yourself who mistreat woman if they don't bare down to him. I have no problems with your ladies but I only hope you don't treat them like this. But since so many ladies have left you lately now I can see why. Saftey is my priority and has always been my num 1 priority. You assumed that all because I associate with PT and BM that I do bareback when in fact I have never been with them sexually. I talk to them because they are true gentlemen unlike ureself. You got mad because I wouldn't take your side when it came to you and PT. Neither one of those men would ever call a lady on here a dog nor a skank. You have to think very low of women to even say that to a lady. You were the one that said if any provider needed refs or had questions to call you. You lied. You don't give references. You also said you don't get paid, that's another lie. Another thing how in the fuck do you know who does bareback unless you are fucking them yourself? So you have made assumptions and / or believing rumors. Not one of my reviews have said I do bareback and all say were CFS. So since you want to say I am drama, well no it ain't drama these are facts. My safety goes has far as no cim. Yep diseases are spread that way to. And before you can say everything you do is %100 safe, that's unrealistic. Oral uncovered, kissing, cim, things like that can spread diseases.
Every girl that works here is different and beautiful inside and out and work the way they want and the gentlemen who see us are respectful. You just showed your true colors. If anyone read all the posts going back between you and PT there are countless lies from your own mouth. You can think what you want of me but I will never let some "adviser or financial counselor" LOL get me down. I am a strong, confident, beautiful woman. And I am all about respect. God has blessed me with a great life that I am so grateful for because I am having the time of my life. I will pray that god will come into your life and help you with your needs.
We like bb doesn't say we do it with all the women we see does it?. NO IT DOESN'T. If you read the first paragraph closely it says if women ask what we like we express ALL OUR LIKES It then becomes up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. That has always been that way. We treat women with respect. We don't as your boss says treat women like dogs. That is cheap shit rolling out of his mouth. He sets up your dates your locations according to him. Takes a cut of your work and sets the rules. I would say it "appears" you work for and belong to him and do it his way, not as if you were on your own making your own arrangements. If not you would probably be on your own doing your own thing. Your call and since I don't see any of his ladies when they work for him his and your choice. If I like something it doesn't mean I or my brother get it. Just as if I read on the board you or some other lady liked it doesn't mean she does it or gives it HUH? I appreciate your dedication but unless you know for a fact I have done bb with a well known lady on this board for SURE it becomes just a rumor so I promise YOU THIS. I won't spread what I have heard or read about you or anyone else if you don't spread shit about me. Fair enough? Works for me and I hope works for you. Any man who calls a woman a dog without proof is the scum of the earth because he likes to spread shit. This is about getting sex not spreading shit about people. I won't spread any rumors about you or your friends Afford me the same courtesy. Works for me and I hope works for you. Have a good week / weekend.Let me clear up a couple of things for you there bud.
#1, Sasha and the other ladies do NOT work for Buddah. It's more the other way around. The girls tell him when they can work, and what services they are open to do, and in your case, who they will not work. They pay Buddha to setup the dates according to the conditions the girls set. Buddha has his own rules as to who he is going to work with. His reputation of a quality connection has value and if he deals with girls who are less than professional, HIS reputation takes a hit.
#2, You may say, "I don't do BB on everybody.". But that is one of the craziest arguments you can have. It only takes one time to get VD. It only takes one time to get AIDS. It only takes ONE time to screw yourself up the rest of the time. If you see girls who want to take that risk, fine. You also had better prepare yourself to be marked as one with a higher risk factor. Because of that, Buddah and Sasha have pretty much made it clear that they will not deal with you.
SashaBlack
02-06-14, 00:23
We like bb doesn't say we do it with all the women we see does it?. NO IT DOESN'T. If you read the first paragraph closely it says if women ask what we like we express ALL OUR LIKES It then becomes up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. That has always been that way. We treat women with respect. We don't as your boss says treat women like dogs. That is cheap shit rolling out of his mouth. He sets up your dates your locations according to him. Takes a cut of your work and sets the rules. I would say it "appears" you work for and belong to him and do it his way, not as if you were on your own making your own arrangements. If not you would probably be on your own doing your own thing. Your call and since I don't see any of his ladies when they work for him his and your choice. If I like something it doesn't mean I or my brother get it. Just as if I read on the board you or some other lady liked it doesn't mean she does it or gives it HUH? I appreciate your dedication but unless you know for a fact I have done bb with a well known lady on this board for SURE it becomes just a rumor so I promise YOU THIS. I won't spread what I have heard or read about you or anyone else if you don't spread shit about me. Fair enough? Works for me and I hope works for you. Any man who calls a woman a dog without proof is the scum of the earth because he likes to spread shit. This is about getting sex not spreading shit about people. I won't spread any rumors about you or your friends Afford me the same courtesy. Works for me and I hope works for you. Have a good week / weekend.Pt,
Are you out of your god forbidden tiny little mind. If you think for one second that I actually Belong to somebody you're a bigger fucking idiot that I thought you were. If you don't recall correctly a while ago I went independent and absolutely hated it that's why I began to work with Buddha again. The phone calls and the PMs I got from gentlemen were absolutely ridiculous and I can't even imagine some of the things these ladies on here have to deal with. That's why "I "choose to not put my number on the board. Buddha has no say in who I give my number to and talk to outside of the hobby or within the hobby. Why the hell would I give my personal number out to people I don't even know? And I have no calls for burner phone since Buddha does all of my scheduling. He knows when I'm available And he knows who I like to see. After each New friend I make if there's a connection or not I let Budda know and based on what I tell him is whether I see my new friend again or not. I cannot honestly comprehend that you think I belong to somebody. Fucking dumb!
You're right I shouldn't assume things about you just like you shouldn't assume things about me. Buddha has never once logged on to my account and posted anything for me. Everything you read with my name next to it comes from me. You your self have said you have liked bareback, just because you don't get it from "some "providers doesn't mean you don't get it from others. You can ask any gentleman that I have ever seen, if you have the audacity to ask me for bareback I will kick you off me punch you in the fucking throat and then throw you out of my room. I will not be disrespected and a man asking me to stick their bare dick inside me is being disrespectful.
Sb.
ClassASweetie
02-06-14, 00:37
Just wondering, not trying to make the board more complicated but what if a thread was started for this purpose only. It could be called "Been there done that" or anything else appropriate.
The purpose would not be for a review but to affirm someone is legit. Have it be two sentence max. "I saw Sydney Moore. Had a good time." Then Hopefully Sydney would reply "Thanks Fdx17. Hope to see you again.".
As long as each contributor put the other persons name in the post you could do a search on the name "Sydney Moore" and quickly come up with everyone who has seen her. Vise versa a provider could search "Fdx17" and see any provider who has acknowledged my visit.
A monger could do a search on Sydney Moore and find Fdx17 has seen her. If he is comfortable he could move on or he could then do a search on Fdx17 and find out what providers have confirmed him. Lets say he finds Natti GFE has seen him. The monger himself has seen Natti GFE thereby knowing that Sydney is probably a legit provider.
Just throwing it out there. If it makes sense it could be our version of a green dot that other Indypendant sites use. If it doesn't make sense disregard.
Fdx17.But the problem is babe is that it's not always members that see us ladies. As then there are some that are members for yrs but have no post. And then others that are just long time readers. If someone is a member with post a simple pm with his num should be unuf for verification. I don't feel the need for refs for members with post but some ladies do. But when we get someone that we need to do a ref on because he isn't a member and the ladies won't give the ref, there are other verifications but it does become a hassle sometimes and the client or the woman may just give up and a good time may be lost. The escort reviews is really that place that you are saying we should have and that's what that thread is actually for. It's just become a little more than that. I think the whole point is with everything going on, everyone should put their differences aside to protect one another. This is a community and most of us women believe in protecting each other. I have learned who will and will not give a reference. I can say that Sinful, Summer, Silk, Sassy Sexy, Nattie, Melanie, and a few others are great for giving references. It shouldn't matter how they work or what they do, I wouldn't want anyone busted by LE. Even EC I would give a ref to even with what she said awhile ago. But that's just the way I am. I truley believe in karma and I do by best to help my fello sisters and the best I can do to make you gentlemen happy. No one is perfect and I never claim to be but I believe it's always best to help one another out.
No one, NO ONE, is going to make me believe between BBBJ, DATY that CFS is covering all basis. It's not. I take risks like everyone else, depending on who I meet, what I know about them and through casual non-identifying info. Nobody knows who's rolling dirty.
Considering I was mongering years ago in downtown Cincinnati with nothing more than a cell phone and a city beat ad, no internet, the gamble and the stakes were extremely high to meet one on one with danger.
Had a provider in the past two months tried to offer BBBJ with a swelled up left side of her jaw. NFW that was happening. Get your face fixed, I'll stick to being hand job harry.
I have fun on both sides of the coin, mongering for specific likes / wants, plenty of fish for inbetween casual. If I was to 'trust' who's cleaner in the big picture when it comes to fun, nothing puts past me that the providers in this gamut do anything but being sloppy to the design of protecting themselves.
1 exception to bb; someone knowing their relationship to a monger knowing their history in regards to that topic. Not all of us are dipping in the dipping sauce.
HuntLadys29
02-06-14, 06:41
To quote the late great Rodney King, can't we all just get along.
PillowTalk69
02-06-14, 07:04
Pt,
Are you out of your god forbidden tiny little mind. If you think for one second that I actually Belong to somebody you're a bigger fucking idiot that I thought you were. If you don't recall correctly a while ago I went independent and absolutely hated it that's why I began to work with Buddha again. The phone calls and the PMs I got from gentlemen were absolutely ridiculous and I can't even imagine some of the things these ladies on here have to deal with. That's why "I "choose to not put my number on the board. Buddha has no say in who I give my number to and talk to outside of the hobby or within the hobby. Why the hell would I give my personal number out to people I don't even know? And I have no calls for burner phone since Buddha does all of my scheduling. He knows when I'm available And he knows who I like to see. After each New friend I make if there's a connection or not I let Budda know and based on what I tell him is whether I see my new friend again or not. I cannot honestly comprehend that you think I belong to somebody. Fucking dumb!
You're right I shouldn't assume things about you just like you shouldn't assume things about me. Buddha has never once logged on to my account and posted anything for me. Everything you read with my name next to it comes from me. You your self have said you have liked bareback, just because you don't get it from "some "providers doesn't mean you don't get it from others. You can ask any gentleman that I have ever seen, if you have the audacity to ask me for bareback I will kick you off me punch you in the fucking throat and then throw you out of my room. I will not be disrespected and a man asking me to stick their bare dick inside me is being disrespectful.
Sb.When a lady sets her parameters they are respected always have always will be. What happens between us stays between us, the way it should be. I don't spread rumors about ladies and anyone who spreads them about me hears about it. What you choose to do is your choice and business and is as it should be. What I choose to do is mine and is as it should be. Some women can handle it on their own some can't their choice and business. I have never asked to see you or CC or Airella and won't my business and choice Mainly knowing what I know from 3 decades in this is why. He knows my likes and cuts me off his choice. Doesn't mean I would get it means his choice to deny access. Nothing wrong with that. In the time I have known a number of managers most don't care as long as the dollars keep flowing. Some do. Their choice. With all that goes on in the hobby and all the activity choices out there one activity no does not prevent men from exploring other venues with them. There is something out there for every man and women in this. Fact not fiction. I appreciate the fact you won't spread rumors nor will I.Not my style or my brothers style. We are honest and respectful always have been and will try to always be. Appreciate the response but knowing what I know from first hand conversations with certain people will stick with the independents which is my choice. Have a good day Ms Sasha and best wishes to you.
PillowTalk69
02-06-14, 07:15
Let me clear up a couple of things for you there bud.
#1, Sasha and the other ladies do NOT work for Buddah. It's more the other way around. The girls tell him when they can work, and what services they are open to do, and in your case, who they will not work. They pay Buddha to setup the dates according to the conditions the girls set. Buddha has his own rules as to who he is going to work with. His reputation of a quality connection has value and if he deals with girls who are less than professional, HIS reputation takes a hit.
#2, You may say, "I don't do BB on everybody.". But that is one of the craziest arguments you can have. It only takes one time to get VD. It only takes one time to get AIDS. It only takes ONE time to screw yourself up the rest of the time. If you see girls who want to take that risk, fine. You also had better prepare yourself to be marked as one with a higher risk factor. Because of that, Buddah and Sasha have pretty much made it clear that they will not deal with you.VD or put your mouth on her pussy and get stds, ghonorrhea, etc. It only takes one time to fuck a woman the who has fucked someone you don't know to give you and STD or HIV Why knowing your provider is everything and even then you may not know the whole picture. What we do is a crap shoot for both sides and you know that so to play God and do judgement this is not the place for it. NOTHING IN this is safe and for women and men who say I am tested every? Number of days is good but health care workers will tell anyone who does this in civilian or monger life " A TEST IS ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR FIRST EXPERIENCE AFTER THE TEST" That is why clearing the playing field going in is so important but not the final answer. Women in this will say I only see two a day or that is my goal. K with that. But that is 10 to 14 a week if she is lucky. Multiple that times 52 or 50 and well you can do the math. Buddah has his rules and that is fine. His choice. But he also has had a number of ladies who have walked on him and one might see if you can find them and ask why they left. If it so good on one side of the fence he should have a boat load of ladies working for him with all he does for them. If he is straight arrow even better but in all the years in this I have never known ONE Manager who was totally clean of wrong doing. He may be the most honest I have talked to and known for over two decades but totally straight arrow NOPE. Have a good day the.
I have been a provider off and on for years. I dropped off the scene when I graduated college and went into the corporate world to put my college degree to use. Only seeing people that I knew on the side. When I dropped off the scene no one that I knew was doing the BBBJ, CIM or "blow and go" specials and sure as hell not BBFS. Since showing back up on this scene, in the last year, I am finding that I am a dying breed. I'm practically being bullied (not by all) and turned away (by some) because by definition (to some) I'm not considered a true GFE because when it comes to BJ covered is as far as I will go. Which, I seriously could careless about a silly definition when it comes to my health and the health of others. However, you would be surprised at the amount of gentlemen out there who are fine with CBJ and who actually prefer it that way, with that being said when it comes to the reality of this site most of them aren't located here. I've accepted what has become the norm for others on this site as far as BBBJ, CIM, and other random acts but anyone who participates in BBFS is putting everyone at risk, everyone. I'm no saint but I do have the sense that god gave me and I tend to use it more times than not. To be clear, I have no business or opinion when it comes to the dealings of others and what they choose to do or not to do. This is my perspective and some insights from my own experiences.
CX.
I know I don't have a rep here but I have seen the new rule for providers can only post 1 ad per day, if they post more than one they get banned for a week. I have seen it happen to a few already. I saw that utr in ohio posted 2 yesterday but no ban on them. Maybe it should be a 3 strike rule 1 offence a warning from A2, then a week ban, then deleted account. So how does utr get away with it and others have not? All should be treated equally.
I know I don't have a rep here but I have seen the new rule for providers can only post 1 ad per day, if they post more than one they get banned for a week. I have seen it happen to a few already. I saw that utr in ohio posted 2 yesterday but no ban on them. Maybe it should be a 3 strike rule 1 offence a warning from A2, then a week ban, then deleted account. So how does utr get away with it and others have not? All should be treated equally.As Samuel L Jackson said in Pulp Fiction; "Have you finished? Well allow me to retort."
As Kristi found out, if providers fuck up and double post by accident and send me a message before I mod the forum I just delete the extra one before it goes live. UTR did that because he forgot the pics, I thought I deleted it but I fucked up.
Why I changed your title to "Asshole?" You're not new, you're somebody that posts here on a regular basis and you didn't have the balls to do this with your regular name. Do you see that button on all the posts that says "Report Post?" Next time fucking use it and don't be such an asshole. I gotta pretty good idea who this is and if you don't knock it the fuck off I'm not gonna let you post about your ATF that got hit by this anymore.
Are you feeling me?
A2
Some people need that extra push. Some people are just IDIOTS!
Glad to see you here keepin it real!
As Samuel L Jackson said in Pulp Fiction; "Have you finished? Well allow me to retort."
As Kristi found out, if providers fuck up and double post by accident and send me a message before I mod the forum I just delete the extra one before it goes live. UTR did that because he forgot the pics, I thought I deleted it but I fucked up.
Why I changed your title to "Asshole?" You're not new, you're somebody that posts here on a regular basis and you didn't have the balls to do this with your regular name. Do you see that button on all the posts that says "Report Post?" Next time fucking use it and don't be such an asshole. I gotta pretty good idea who this is and if you don't knock it the fuck off I'm not gonna let you post about your ATF that got hit by this anymore.
Are you feeling me?
A2
Is SHe code for a TV / TS or just a typo? Just wondering.
A2.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-08-14, 10:59
I have been a provider off and on for years. I dropped off the scene when I graduated college and went into the corporate world to put my college degree to use. Only seeing people that I knew on the side. When I dropped off the scene no one that I knew was doing the BBBJ, CIM or "blow and go" specials and sure as hell not BBFS. Since showing back up on this scene, in the last year, I am finding that I am a dying breed. I'm practically being bullied (not by all) and turned away (by some) because by definition (to some) I'm not considered a true GFE because when it comes to BJ covered is as far as I will go. Which, I seriously could careless about a silly definition when it comes to my health and the health of others. However, you would be surprised at the amount of gentlemen out there who are fine with CBJ and who actually prefer it that way, with that being said when it comes to the reality of this site most of them aren't located here. I've accepted what has become the norm for others on this site as far as BBBJ, CIM, and other random acts but anyone who participates in BBFS is putting everyone at risk, everyone. I'm no saint but I do have the sense that god gave me and I tend to use it more times than not. To be clear, I have no business or opinion when it comes to the dealings of others and what they choose to do or not to do. This is my perspective and some insights from my own experiences.
CX.Do you allow a man to DATY? If you do, do you use a dental dam? You have just as much chance of getting Chlamydia through unprotected vaginal oral sex as you do from a BBBJ. Just'askin..
Do you allow a man to DATY? If you do, do you use a dental dam? You have just as much chance of getting Chlamydia through unprotected vaginal oral sex as you do from a BBBJ. Just'askin..I am not one of the guys that "pressure her," but I did warn her before she joined this site, that most of the guys on here (and most of the other boards in this region) usually have a tough time tolerating CBJ when a provider advertises GFE.
I have seen Cameron off and on for almost a decade. I can say she is fun, and great to talk to in the session, and quite skilled. Her CBJ isn't bad for well, a CBJ. Lot's of eye contact and plenty of frenzy and great technique. I wouldn't let the fact that she makes you cover up bother you too much unless you absolutely thrive on CIM. If the BJ is just foreplay for you, you won't miss anything in the session with her. Besides, even if the miraculous happened, I absolutely guarantee you she would never ever go CIM even if she relented on the CBJ.
Cameron and I have joked back and forth on this for years and one time I brought Saran Wrap to a session and used a piece of it during DATY to show her just how covered oral sex feels for us guys. She giggled at my silliness, but still came, so it was hard to make any point on the subject.
301170
The reality is, her body, her choice, and you just have to respect it. If the BBBJ is that big of a deal for you, you should move on, rather than harass this gal. If however you just want a great time with real lady (reminds you of a gal you would work with, or next door) and a session that feels more like friends with benefits, she provides a great session. Safety though, is emphasized.
Admin,
Get off of your high horse. The mongers on this site are quite capable to scroll through the ads; it is just 1, maybe 2 screens to scroll through to find todays posts. Not that damn hard. Also consider the ones who do advertise multiple times per day probably need the cash.
Anyone else think that Admin should go see one of these fine providers rather that being a pri&.
Flick1.
Is SHe code for a TV / TS or just a typo? Just wondering.
A2.I haven't heard / read that before, so seems to me to be a typo. On the other hand, I'm not in that environment so could be new usage.
Cheech.
I haven't heard / read that before, so seems to me to be a typo. On the other hand, I'm not in that environment so could be new usage.
Cheech.Can you see how that makes me wonder?
I got this in a PM today;.
Instead of being a shit head coward and hiding behind emails. Come out like a man and take me up pussy. Go ahead and delete my registration. Pussy cowardAm I the only one seeing the irony in somebody telling me I'm a pussy for using an email then challenging me to fight through email?
Just wondering.
A2.
Admin,
Get off of your high horse. The mongers on this site are quite capable to scroll through the ads; it is just 1, maybe 2 screens to scroll through to find todays posts. Not that damn hard. Also consider the ones who do advertise multiple times per day probably need the cash.
Anyone else think that Admin should go see one of these fine providers rather that being a pri&.
Flick1.I posted it, one ad, per day, per thread. Simple, easy actually. I didn't say one ad on even number days and no ads on odd, and you can double down on any days that the second letter is the same as the first in your user name. One ad, per day, per thread or you can't post for a week. 95% of the chicks on the site were already doing that with no problem, but some of them were putting up two or three ads per day. I had to do something so I did. I did this because I was getting TONS of fucking mail from guys that were asking me to do something about it.
As far as me needing to go see somebody because my sexual frustration is making me grumpy. I live in a city where the hobby is legal and there are over 30,000 sex workers, yes 30 fucking thousand. I fuck more pussy than a gynecologist sees. I fuck so much different pussy that I've been thinking about taking a month off because I'm a little bored with fucking 3-4 different women a week. As far as drumming up support for your point of view I'll do it it but with a twist.
Anybody that thinks I should stop giving chicks a week off for posting two ads in a day say so. However if you think that's ok and I should change this guys title to Douchebag post that instead.
Seriously, I'll go with the majority. Voting closes tomorrow night. Only mongers get to vote, and no votes cast by anybody that created their profile less than a month ago will count.
A2.
Buster6914
02-08-14, 23:54
A2 just give the ahole what he wants, delete him. Problem solved.
I got this in a PM today;.
Am I the only one seeing the irony in somebody telling me I'm a pussy for using an email then challenging me to fight through email?
Just wondering.
A2.
MassageFreak
02-08-14, 23:55
Looks like to me whoever that was wanted a back alley brawl. Internet karate is for pussies. Delete that fucker, no room for confrontations here. MF
I got this in a PM today;.
Am I the only one seeing the irony in somebody telling me I'm a pussy for using an email then challenging me to fight through email?
Just wondering.
A2..
I don't want anyones juices in my mouth by "accident" or on purpose as that is how disease is spread. In order to avoid this I don't participate in BBBJ or CIM. Obviously, I am fully aware of the possible risks that could result by allowing DATY. However, the facts are (while not fool proof as nothing is) the chances of me contracting something from someone performing DATY on me is low risk, unless the giver happens to have an open sore on their mouth. In which case DATY would most certainly not be on the menu for anyone in that case scenario. On the other hand, I know that I am clean. I know that I am not passing anything to anyone. Which, also makes me feel better about the act. At the end of the day, I am only in control of myself, not anyone else. So, I take the precautions that I do for myself and for those that I share my time with for these very specific reasons.
CX.
Do you allow a man to DATY? If you do, do you use a dental dam? You have just as much chance of getting Chlamydia through unprotected vaginal oral sex as you do from a BBBJ. Just'askin..
However if you think that's ok and I should change this guys title to Douchebag post that instead.
Seriously, I'll go with the majority. Voting closes tomorrow night. Only mongers get to vote, and no votes cast by anybody that created their profile less than a month ago will count.
A2.I vote Douchebag, or perhaps something more descriptive like "aged dick cheese.".
I posted it, one ad, per day, per thread. Simple, easy actually. I didn't say one ad on even number days and no ads on odd, and you can double down on any days that the second letter is the same as the first in your user name. One ad, per day, per thread or you can't post for a week. 95% of the chicks on the site were already doing that with no problem, but some of them were putting up two or three ads per day. I had to do something so I did. I did this because I was getting TONS of fucking mail from guys that were asking me to do something about it.
As far as me needing to go see somebody because my sexual frustration is making me grumpy. I live in a city where the hobby is legal and there are over 30,000 sex workers, yes 30 fucking thousand. I fuck more pussy than a gynecologist sees. I fuck so much different pussy that I've been thinking about taking a month off because I'm a little bored with fucking 3-4 different women a week. As far as drumming up support for your point of view I'll do it it but with a twist.
Anybody that thinks I should stop giving chicks a week off for posting two ads in a day say so. However if you think that's ok and I should change this guys title to Douchebag post that instead.
Seriously, I'll go with the majority. Voting closes tomorrow night. Only mongers get to vote, and no votes cast by anybody that created their profile less than a month ago will count.
A2.Wow, you are in an area with 30,000 sex worker and it is legal. Good for you; this is fucking Cincinnati Ohio and we get 10-15 posts a day; not 30,000. I am so proud of you - 4 ladies a week and ready to take a month off. Once again this is fucking Cincinnati Ohio, 10 - 15 ads a day.
Some of the ladies on this site are between a rock and a hard place, no pun intended, and need the money. Only Morons cannot filter out a provider that posts more than once a day.
Once again, my post will sit for 5-10 hours on hold so the it is irrelevant when it hits. Why, Admin is the Douchebag.
Ok you local mongers, are you just going to be pussy's and side with Admin?
Flick1.
Member #5260
02-09-14, 09:23
He spelled out pretty clear what his rules are. If the people can't follow his rules, then pay the price. A couple that got banned are high volume providers. They shouldn't be stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'm sure they are making $1000 to $1500 per week tax free. Maybe they should save it instead of being broke all the time like the one who found out she had to move that day, yeah right.
TheDaytimer
02-09-14, 10:06
Yeah. We'll side with Admin (A2) The board was getting out of control and he is working his ass off to bring it back to how it is supposed to be. He even created the Octagon to allow for rants and raves, but in a secluded place) which were normally barred from the boards. If you think moderating this is easy, with people complaining and writing things they shouldn't, then there are other places you can move to.
Wow, you are in an area with 30,000 sex worker and it is legal. Good for you; this is fucking Cincinnati Ohio and we get 10-15 posts a day; not 30,000. I am so proud of you - 4 ladies a week and ready to take a month off. Once again this is fucking Cincinnati Ohio, 10 - 15 ads a day.
Some of the ladies on this site are between a rock and a hard place, no pun intended, and need the money. Only Morons cannot filter out a provider that posts more than once a day.
Once again, my post will sit for 5-10 hours on hold so the it is irrelevant when it hits. Why, Admin is the Douchebag.
Ok you local mongers, are you just going to be pussy's and side with Admin?
Flick1.
I vote to let providers post multi ads! I'm not to lazy to scroll past the ones that don't interest me!
Wdm.
I posted it, one ad, per day, per thread. Simple, easy actually. I didn't say one ad on even number days and no ads on odd, and you can double down on any days that the second letter is the same as the first in your user name. One ad, per day, per thread or you can't post for a week. 95% of the chicks on the site were already doing that with no problem, but some of them were putting up two or three ads per day. I had to do something so I did. I did this because I was getting TONS of fucking mail from guys that were asking me to do something about it.
As far as me needing to go see somebody because my sexual frustration is making me grumpy. I live in a city where the hobby is legal and there are over 30,000 sex workers, yes 30 fucking thousand. I fuck more pussy than a gynecologist sees. I fuck so much different pussy that I've been thinking about taking a month off because I'm a little bored with fucking 3-4 different women a week. As far as drumming up support for your point of view I'll do it it but with a twist.
Anybody that thinks I should stop giving chicks a week off for posting two ads in a day say so. However if you think that's ok and I should change this guys title to Douchebag post that instead.
Seriously, I'll go with the majority. Voting closes tomorrow night. Only mongers get to vote, and no votes cast by anybody that created their profile less than a month ago will count.
A2.
One ad a day is plenty. Unless they want to put in some new hot ass pictures in the ad. If not then why does anyone want to read through the same shit over and over in a day. The admin is just cleaning up the bullshit. I think though if a provider want to post pictures of herself in some sexy outfit saying this is what I am wearing right now who wants to come undress and fuck me that would be good by me. It would kinda be like fishing if the fish are not biting on one lure try something else. In this case maybe schoolgirl outfit, if that doesn't work go to the naughty maid, and if all else fails get naked.
A2 sees merit in this idea. However it would quickly be abused. There would be a few that would post barrage of ads each with a single selfie attached.
A2
Member #4637
02-09-14, 13:32
All the discussions about STDs in the hobby and carelessness on the part of mongers and providers has led me to put together a "Pros vs. Cons" list:
Pros: Enjoy a variety of young pussy.
Cons: Very expensive hobby; may contract STDs; get arrested; being discovered by spouse; being discovered by employer; losing marriage; family, friends, job; bankruptcy.
I will be pondering these risks against the rewards. I'll post my decision soon (if this post is allowed through).
It was, I think, in the movie "Casino" near the end where the old Dons were deciding who was going to get whacked because of all the trouble. They were talking about one guy and one of the Dons said he wasn't going to rat. Another Don said, "Just in case." and that was it, the guy got whacked. I say, who needs the aggravation. Douchebag it is.
And by the way, remember that Admin is not only taking care of our boards, but most likely taking care of a shitload of other boards. How much more does Admin need to keep an eye on? This site is not only the USA, but worldwide. You can meander around in here and find worldwide punanni!
Cheech1.
All the discussions about STDs in the hobby and carelessness on the part of mongers and providers has led me to put together a "Pros vs. Cons" list:
Pros: Enjoy a variety of young pussy.
Cons: Very expensive hobby; may contract STDs; get arrested; being discovered by spouse; being discovered by employer; losing marriage; family, friends, job; bankruptcy.
I will be pondering these risks against the rewards. I'll post my decision soon (if this post is allowed through).If you decide you want to get out of the hobby that's a personal choice. Normally we delete "Gran Goodby's" and replace them with a generic "XXXX has informed us he will no longer be posting and we have retired his membership" because a lot of guys often add embarrassing personal stuff to posts like that and we try and protect their dignity a little. But if you decide you don't want to monger anymore and don't try to tell other guys why they shouldn't it's your dick brother, do with it what makes you happy.
On my side, where I live, no laws, don't have a spouse, it's affordable, and Jax would most likely only fire me if I quit. I told him the other day I was thinking about making February a pussy free month and he responded with "Well if you have to do something so fucking stupid at least you picked the shortest month to do it in.".
Good lucking in figuring it out.
Follow the rules, enforce the ban. Since when is it a priority to help everyone in crisis. ?? Plenty of them that don't operate in this fashion. It's a far better relationship from hobbyist to provider.
I'm with A2 on this. Once a day is plenty, hell with some providers you could cut it down to once a week. Besides, it's free. My guess is that most mongers visit the Escort Classified Ads-Posted by Escorts, at most once a day. So one post a day should get everone. I wouldn't be surprised if there a quite a few mongers who never visit the Classified Ads forum at all. Having said that, here is my contribution to the Queen City Honorary Monger's Society. This is Aries, a tall stunningly beautiful spinner. I had the pleasure of visiting her yesterday along with Lexi. Aries met all of my requirements. Basically that means she has a good set of lungs and doesn't mind the taste of cum.
Bearcatstyle
02-09-14, 17:11
1 a day is plenty.
SinsinnatiToy
02-09-14, 18:07
I agree fully that once a day is sufficient, the only thing I would recommend is splitting the allowed size of post by allowing only a certain number lines of text and then allowing space for pics, so that we could have a good look at the girls to determine if they meet our individual taste.
Anyone else think that Admin should go see one of these fine providers rather than being a prick.
Flick1.Nope. I like that he keeps the ad page free from clutter. Remember it is free for them to advertise. To be honest I hate seeing the same ads over and over. Usually the only reason an ad compels me to see someone I didn't already plan on seeing, it is because of a new special, service, or photos that inspire.
Posting three ads per day that are the same damn thing is just noise, in fact the annoyance is right up there with texting me to ask for an appointment out of the blue. It probably hurts their business rather than helps it. Kind of like when they show the same commercial at every break on television; even the good ones start to annoy you if it is put your face over and over.
Once again, my post will sit for 5-10 hours on hold so the it is irrelevant when it hits. Why? Because Admin is the Douchebag.
Ok you local mongers, are you just going to be pussy's and side with Admin?
Flick1.
So we are cowards for agreeing with common sense? Your posts should sit for longer than 10 hours--they are a waste of bandwidth. You don't like this place? Go someplace else or make your own damn board where you can make the rules.
I think Flick needs a new nickname, A2.
A2,
Is it at all possible to give editing permissions to providers to their posts? So rather than have them trying to post more than once a day, if their ad isn't catching enough attention, they can just edit and see if better bait would work. Plus that won't clutter up the boards with too many posts by a single provider.
I don't know if the board software allows for that. But if it does, it could be worth considering.
-the'Nut.
HuntLadys29
02-09-14, 19:09
Wow, you are in an area with 30,000 sex worker and it is legal. Good for you; this is fucking Cincinnati Ohio and we get 10-15 posts a day; not 30,000. I am so proud of you - 4 ladies a week and ready to take a month off. Once again this is fucking Cincinnati Ohio, 10 - 15 ads a day.
Some of the ladies on this site are between a rock and a hard place, no pun intended, and need the money. Only Morons cannot filter out a provider that posts more than once a day.
Once again, my post will sit for 5-10 hours on hold so the it is irrelevant when it hits. Why, Admin is the Douchebag.
Ok you local mongers, are you just going to be pussy's and side with Admin?
Flick1.Man I'm not trying to start a war of words with you, but everybody went thru the post sitting until they got reviewed by Admin, yes it sucks but the guys on this board know that and will respond to your post or heed your post if it is relevant to them. As far as the girls being between a rock and a hard place, that's not my responsibility they are in that situation because of their own doing not mine. If their financial situation is so dire then maybe they should do like us and get up and go to work. The girls can do this and pick up a day job but do the math the average price for pussy on this site is what? A hundred dollars? You figure 3 customers a day 6 days a week with 1 day off that's 1800 a week that's more than I make, what are they doing with their money? Most are using drugs and the ones that are not then they should not be broke. So sorry I don't feel the rock and a hard place line. We have rules at our work place Admin owns or runs this site he allows the girls to post and make money on this site so they have to play by Admins rules.
Alaska Tom
02-09-14, 19:52
He spelled out pretty clear what his rules are. If the people can't follow his rules, then pay the price. A couple that got banned are high volume providers. They shouldn't be stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'm sure they are making $1000 to $1500 per week tax free. Maybe they should save it instead of being broke all the time like the one who found out she had to move that day, yeah right.It seems to me that 1) any board has to have some basic rules on posting, and one post per day per provider does not seem out of line; 2) I appreciate the time Admin puts in to run this board. It has to take a fair amount of time and effort, and we all need to recall we ARE GETTING THIS BOARD FOR FREE.
FantasyFancy
02-09-14, 20:43
For all you do I as a provider appriciate all this site has offered us thanks again love ff.
I say one a day, more than that is too much noise.
I usually don't want to scroll past one page.
Anybody that thinks I should stop giving chicks a week off for posting two ads in a day say so. However if you think that's ok and I should change this guys title to Douchebag post that instead.
Seriously, I'll go with the majority. Voting closes tomorrow night. Only mongers get to vote, and no votes cast by anybody that created their profile less than a month ago will count.
A2.I vote for Smegma.
It is your site and your rules, I do happen to agree with you on limiting ads to one a day, the ability to edit a provider's ad intrigues me though I have no idea if that might work. As for Mr. Flick, I would boot his douchebag ass off the site right now. Fuck him and if he called me a pussy and challenged me to a fight via email there is no doubt I would terminate him so fast his posts would all disappear. Fuck him! As always.
It was 10-1 or 9-2 depending. Flick sent me a PM and it wasn't douchey so I'll leave the brother in peace.
Letting the advertisers edit their ads was something they used to be able to do but a few ruined it for the many. They pick up on our timing, so if they have something they want to say they shouldn't, they post that "Janey is a skanky ho and has AIDS." They would leave it up for a few hours then before we got going on the work would change it to "Special today, 20 dollar blow and goes." We just have to see what they post before it goes live.
I'm not super rigid on this stuff. They can check their own posts to see if they screwed up, if they do and they PM me I'll remove the extra without penalizing them. I let EE put up ads that are a little longer because he only posts a couple times a week. Buddah is doing a great job, everybody knows those chicks fuck like succubi (Given my predilections, I really like that the plural of succubus is succubi!) so he just puts up a pic, and "hey here's the number" ad. I'm glad the majority agree it's not unreasonable.
I still gotta get up to Sincy though. I wanna work my way through the spinners there, and I gotta see the succubi.
A2
It was 10-1 or 9-2 depending. Flick sent me a PM and it wasn't douchey so I'll leave the brother in peace.
Letting the advertisers edit their ads was something they used to be able to do but a few ruined it for the many. They pick up on our timing, so if they have something they want to say they shouldn't, they post that "Janey is a skanky ho and has AIDS." They would leave it up for a few hours then before we got going on the work would change it to "Special today, 20 dollar blow and goes." We just have to see what they post before it goes live.
I'm not super rigid on this stuff. They can check their own posts to see if they screwed up, if they do and they PM me I'll remove the extra without penalizing them. I let EE put up ads that are a little longer because he only posts a couple times a week. Buddah is doing a great job, everybody knows those chicks fuck like succubi (Given my predilections, I really like that the plural of succubus is succubi!) so he just puts up a pic, and "hey here's the number" ad. I'm glad the majority agree it's not unreasonable.
I still gotta get up to Sincy though. I wanna work my way through the spinners there, and I gotta see the succubi.
A2Sorry I have been busy today and was only able to take a few looks as the day developed. Admin, it is yours to take care of but I hoped that the if multiple posts were voted down that some in the crowd would come to the same conclusion that I did. The punishment may be too harsh. When I say missed the mark; I had hoped that the penalty would have been reduced if the multiple post rule stayed in place.
I went back and did look at 18 days leading to the new rule. The max was 21 ads within a day, the min was 10 and the average per day was 15.2. I guess that is too many.
In Cincy we are dealing with many independent ladies who can't schedule more than an 3 hours in advance. So for a some of them to start re-posting within a 24 hour period; I expect it.
Admin, believe me when I say that I was not stating that you needed to get laid to keep from being too harsh; not the intent of my comment. Between a Friday cancellation by a provider and other commitments that kept me sidelined over the weekend; I am the one that is grouchy as hell and needs to get laid.
Cheers,
Flick.
And wishes there were more of them in Cleveland.
By the way, Happy Lupercalia to All!
Cheech1.
ClassASweetie
02-10-14, 18:14
It was 10-1 or 9-2 depending. Flick sent me a PM and it wasn't douchey so I'll leave the brother in peace.
Letting the advertisers edit their ads was something they used to be able to do but a few ruined it for the many. They pick up on our timing, so if they have something they want to say they shouldn't, they post that "Janey is a skanky ho and has AIDS." They would leave it up for a few hours then before we got going on the work would change it to "Special today, 20 dollar blow and goes." We just have to see what they post before it goes live.
I'm not super rigid on this stuff. They can check their own posts to see if they screwed up, if they do and they PM me I'll remove the extra without penalizing them. I let EE put up ads that are a little longer because he only posts a couple times a week. Buddah is doing a great job, everybody knows those chicks fuck like succubi (Given my predilections, I really like that the plural of succubus is succubi!) so he just puts up a pic, and "hey here's the number" ad. I'm glad the majority agree it's not unreasonable.
I still gotta get up to Sincy though. I wanna work my way through the spinners there, and I gotta see the succubi.
A2I have to agree with you A2, more than one post a day is too much. Even as a provider, more than one is too much. I appreciate all you do on this sight to keep it going. I love this site and the gentlemen on it. But I don't believe the punishment is too harsh. It's only common sense to know what ads you are posting and when.
Greetings again from the South. This is Aries' friend Lexi. Saw her Saturday along with Aries. Like Aries, Lexi also meet my meager requirements. She has a good set of lungs and doesn't mind the taste of cum.
ClassASweetie
02-10-14, 18:26
All the discussions about STDs in the hobby and carelessness on the part of mongers and providers has led me to put together a "Pros vs. Cons" list:
Pros: Enjoy a variety of young pussy.
Cons: Very expensive hobby; may contract STDs; get arrested; being discovered by spouse; being discovered by employer; losing marriage; family, friends, job; bankruptcy.
I will be pondering these risks against the rewards. I'll post my decision soon (if this post is allowed through).Babe you don't have to be in the hobby to worry about thses things. Your wife could cheat without you knowing and you would have these risks. A woman could tell you she has only had sex once, and that guy could have had an std, etc... As long as you want sex my dear, you will have these worries. You will never know who you are truley messing with. There are no gaurentees. No where. Even if you are taking a woman to dinner or for drinks, you are still paying for the fun afterwards. So you are still paying too. Just saying IMHO.
Greetings again from the South. This is Aries' friend Lexi. Saw her Saturday along with Aries. Like Aries, Lexi also meet my meager requirements. She has a good set of lungs and doesn't mind the taste of cum.Very sultry and cute! Would enjoy a few more photos of this young lady if you can tap your memory card. Your penis is optional.
Cheers!
Member #4637
02-11-14, 11:01
Babe you don't have to be in the hobby to worry about thses things. Your wife could cheat without you knowing and you would have these risks. A woman could tell you she has only had sex once, and that guy could have had an std, etc... As long as you want sex my dear, you will have these worries. You will never know who you are truley messing with. There are no gaurentees. No where. Even if you are taking a woman to dinner or for drinks, you are still paying for the fun afterwards. So you are still paying too. Just saying IMHO.All you say is technically true, but don't delude yourself into believing that prostitution that includes a high percentage of IV drug addicts does not significantly increase the risks. And, by the way, STDs are only one risk among many I've listed. That having been said, I'm not saying I'm out, just considering both sides of the argument.
DiscreetFriend
02-11-14, 14:05
Babe you don't have to be in the hobby to worry about thses things. Your wife could cheat without you knowing and you would have these risks. A woman could tell you she has only had sex once, and that guy could have had an std, etc... As long as you want sex my dear, you will have these worries. You will never know who you are truley messing with. There are no gaurentees. No where. Even if you are taking a woman to dinner or for drinks, you are still paying for the fun afterwards. So you are still paying too. Just saying IMHO.I'm sure some will take exception to what you have said, but I agree with you. I have been hobbying on and off for a very long time. In the early days, up through maybe the late 80's, I'd say that BBFS was the norm. Now when I get out my sole focus is BBBJ. In all the years I haven't so much as caught a cold from a provider, and virtually all of my experiences have been with SWs. A friend lived in LA in the 60's and mongered extensively in LA and Tijuana. Again, not so much as a cold. His brother focused exclusively on non-working girls and caught VD twice from the 'nice' girls.
Your point about there being at least a non-zero degree of risk even with a girlfriend or spouse is spot on. It used to be that you had to be tested before you could get a marriage license. Now, in the era of things a lot worse than some simple VD, there is no longer a requirement to be tested.
Like you, I am not saying that hobbying is risk-free, but let's all be careful not to work ourselves up into a paranoid frenzy. A little common sense goes a long way. Now, after a BBBJ, I wash with soap and water as soon as possible. Its most likely unnecessary, but being overly cautious never hurts.
Very sultry and cute! Would enjoy a few more photos of this young lady if you can tap your memory card. Your penis is optional.
Cheers!Glad to oblige. Your less than subtle comment on my penis was noted. I like to get some good photos of the lady's oral skills, if she is ok with that. Most are. However, when I am with a lady the only penis I want to see is my own. That restricts my choices considerably. However, there is alway one close by. In fact, usually within arms length. But if you these photos are easy, you should try it. LOL.
In case, you'd like to see more of Lexi and Aries, this shot shows much more. That's all for now. Don't want to wear my welcome out.
Cincyeast52
02-11-14, 17:42
In case, you'd like to see more of Lexi and Aries, this shot shows much more. That's all for now. Don't want to wear my welcome out.You've worn it out.
You've worn it out.So long, I am submitting my resignation from the Queen City Monger's Society. From now on, check with Memphis for my pics. Bye.
Old Local Guy
02-11-14, 19:35
In case, you'd like to see more of Lexi and Aries, this shot shows much more. That's all for now. Don't want to wear my welcome out.Damn that looks better than a Double Stuffed Oreo, some mighty fine licking. LOL.
Excellent work GM.
Make me remember why I want to win the lottery and buy my own private island.
Cheech.
TheDaytimer
02-11-14, 20:28
So long, I am submitting my resignation from the Queen City Monger's Society. From now on, check with Memphis for my pics. Bye.Awww you pushed him away. Pictures were great.
MainStreet
02-11-14, 20:48
What did he do to you. I for one appreciate GM's contribution to this forum. Leave the brother alone. I find his pics and commentary refreshing in an otherwise drab forum. Seriously, that was uncalled for.
You've worn it out..
BuyingSmiles
02-11-14, 21:14
You've worn it out.To go outside and play a game of Hide and Go Fuck Yourself.
I think most guys appreciate the GMan's pictures. I say stay around Glock!
Damn that looks better than a Double Stuffed Oreo, some mighty fine licking. LOL.
Excellent work GM.Definitely. Just put that on my to do list.
Glockman's pics are the eyes I don't have before the door opens. Don't make this guy blind, I just learned how to see.
In case, you'd like to see more of Lexi and Aries, this shot shows much more. That's all for now. Don't want to wear my welcome out.Surely I can find a reason to make a trip down to Memphis! Oh yeah, Lexi and Aries! That didn't require much thought!
Keep the coming!
Utr In Ohio
02-12-14, 15:28
No wonder folks on here get busted. I witnessed a young lady today checking into a local hotel.
I was walking out of the bathroom in the lobby and I spot a man on the phone asking for a room number.
I took a seat in the lobby and could here him clearly.
Of course, I was interested...I could tell whatever was happing it was shady.
So, I tune into the girl checking in and can tell she's on the phone with the other guy.
She said room...!
Shocker to see this all so in the open for cameras and staff to see.
Some of these young ladies need to be more discrete.
You've worn it out.Please allow me to both personally, and professionally tell you what a fucking douchebag move that was. If it was intended as a joke, it missed the mark.
So long, I am submitting my resignation from the Queen City Monger's Society. From now on, check with Memphis for my pics. Bye.Don't let this asshole run you off, he's nothing but a troll. He hasn't posted anything of value for almost a year.
A2
I forgot to mention, I put you on his Admin Ignore list, so post all the pics you want, he can't see them anymore. I fucking LOVE being the Admin!
HuntLadys29
02-13-14, 06:42
You've worn it out.Are you jealous? WTF did this guy do to you? Oh I'm sorry the chicks must be related to you, in that case maybe he did step on your toes.
Do we have a lot of White Knights on USA or are there a lot of providers posting reviews under other names? There are some reviews that are just out of whack and it is not a YMMV thing. Are Monger's not wanting to rock the boat because providers read posts and drama occurs soon after a negative post? Is some kinda deal worked being worked out for positive reviews or defense against negative posts?
I posted a cropped picture of a provider, asked a obvious question and it made a little shit storm. No names just a pic and a WTF. The White Knights circled and the provider companied I was ruining her livelihood. Months later the provider seems to be more popular than ever even though it is a consistent theme in reviews that her digs are filthy. And no, I never made the trek to take up the offer. Bad reviews and me wanting to be safe and not set up got the better of me.
Why is it that the obvious is not posted. If the provider is Bat Shit crazy? I want to know. Does her room smell like fish? Yep, I would like to know. Photo's a decade and 50+ points ago? You bet. Busted up grill? Yes. False teeth? Sure. Lazy eye where you can not tell where to look at? Yes. Crazy Ass Boyfriend, Pimp or whatever lurking? Affirmative! Obvious signs of drug use? You bet! Do I have to fuck on a blow up mattress in the living room while you watch TV? Really, yeah. Ect and so on.
While I am at it, what is up with provider photo's? If you do not post a pic, that is a red flag. If you post it and it ain't you, see ya. Do you think if you take a picture at some weird camera angle of your left hip that someone might not figure out you are hiding something? How a about that flash in the mirror pic? WTF. I am not saying you need to have a face shot and reveal all but damn we need to see a pic of the ass, your standard laying on the bed and kneeling on the bed pic's to see what you got. The reason I hobby is to go outside the norm and get some strange. I admit it. I can be with provider's that I would not be with in my personal life. Any height, weight, race, shape and hair color. That keeps me happy. Will a little extra cushion run me off? Not if that is what I am in the mood for. There are Monger's lined up for every Provider type I am sure. Can we just have a little truth in advertising and reviews. Damn!
Hendo.
I posted a cropped picture of a provider, asked a obvious question and it made a little shit storm. No names just a pic and a WTF. The White Knights circled and the provider companied I was ruining her livelihood. Months later the provider seems to be more popular than ever even though it is a consistent theme in reviews that her digs are filthy. And no, I never made the trek to take up the offer. Bad reviews and me wanting to be safe and not set up got the better of me.Where did this happen? What forum and thread?
Member #5083
02-13-14, 20:38
Do we have a lot of White Knights on USA or are there a lot of providers posting reviews under other names? There are some reviews that are just out of whack and it is not a YMMV thing. Are Monger's not wanting to rock the boat because providers read posts and drama occurs soon after a negative post? Is some kinda deal worked being worked out for positive reviews or defense against negative posts?
I believe there is a combination of both, but probably more white knights than bogus providers? I can understand why someone might get upset if you are trashing the photo or performance of a provider who you haven't seen, but if you have seen her, and you think her appearance and / or performance is sub standard, then it is clearly your prerogative to give your personal assessment. I think it should be wide open, and opinions should be out there in all circumstances. The more input, the better. The white knights should just suck it up, and be content to live in their fantasy world.
Why is it that the obvious is not posted. If the provider is Bat Shit crazy? I want to know. Does her room smell like fish? Yep, I would like to know. Photo's a decade and 50+ points ago? You bet. Busted up grill? Yes. False teeth? Sure. Lazy eye where you can not tell where to look at? Yes. Crazy Ass Boyfriend, Pimp or whatever lurking? Affirmative! Obvious signs of drug use? You bet! Do I have to fuck on a blow up mattress in the living room while you watch TV? Really, yeah. Ect and so on.
While I am at it, what is up with provider photo's? If you do not post a pic, that is a red flag. If you post it and it ain't you, see ya. Do you think if you take a picture at some weird camera angle of your left hip that someone might not figure out you are hiding something? How a about that flash in the mirror pic? WTF. I am not saying you need to have a face shot and reveal all but damn we need to see a pic of the ass, your standard laying on the bed and kneeling on the bed pic's to see what you got. The reason I hobby is to go outside the norm and get some strange. I admit it. I can be with provider's that I would not be with in my personal life. Any height, weight, race, shape and hair color. That keeps me happy. Will a little extra cushion run me off? Not if that is what I am in the mood for. There are Monger's lined up for every Provider type I am sure. Can we just have a little truth in advertising and reviews. Damn!
Hendo.Wow! You having a bad day or what? I think maybe you need to learn to listen to the crickets. They will tell you a lot. My kindergarten teacher taught me that if ya can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. So if a girl gives it her best shot but isn't my type, or isn't quite as pretty as I'd hoped, well that's just going to lead to crickets. Now if a girl deceives me, upsells, no shows, bait-and-switches, etc., you'll hear about it. But a few extra pounds? A mediocre BJ technique? Nope.
Thankfully, my brothers here have saved me from too many bad ones. The secret is not only reading the good reviews, but also listening to the crickets. When a girl posts here regularly, or has been posting on BP for months, and none of the reliable guys here are recommending? Those are some fairly loud crickets. You might not know exactly why, but you will know that most of the guys who toftt chose not to post (crickets!
Many of the girls have friends and white knights. Even the mediocre ones. I recently met a girl here who told me the guy recommending her was an old high school buddy. So unfortunately, when reading a rave review you really need to check the source a little.
Now all that said, those of us who generally hesitate to post about an honest girl who tried but missed the mark really DO need to post about the ones our friend should see. So we can tell the difference. For example, how many of you schlepps have seen Jennaveccia and kept it to yourself? Shame on you and shame on me too! (EE. I do owe you a review on that one!) Hendo, if you're looking for a treat and you're as selective as it sounds, forget the mystery girls and just check in with EE, UTR, or any of the dozen others who are highly recommended by trusted mongers. Above all, unless you've got the itch for a doubtful adventure, avoid the cricket girls.
Guys should post what they post. If some chick has tons of great reviews and some new guys posts some HORRIBLE review, we all know what happened. Some douchebag wanted BB anal and she wouldn't do it, or he offered her 1/3 of her asking price and he said fuck off, then came here to get even. What I have no problem with the White Knights doing at that point is "Huh, I've been with her X amount of times and she was always great." No attacking the OP's post, no "You're an asshole." Just, posting their experience. If I'm a guy thinking about seeing a chick and 10 guys with 100+ posts say she's good, unless I catch her on a bad day I'm probably going to get my money's worth.
What I fucking hate is when some guy with 100+ posts writes a balanced review "She's the chick in the pics, the place was nice, she was friendly, but she just phoned it in for me, I probably wouldn't repeat." Then the knights come out and call him a liar, or my personal favorite "I talked to Mary Jane and she told me that you did X." Who gives a fuck, she's probably lying. As much as I love these girls, a lot of them are a little slippery when it comes to honesty. Not cash register type honesty, but critically appraising their work. The best of the best always do the same thing. They post, they say "Thanks for coming to see me, you're right, I wasn't at my best that day. I'd like the chance to make it up to you. Give me a call so we can work something out." When they do that, you know they are going to suck your nuts right out through the tip of your dick.
A2.
I was both surprised and greatly flattered at the support I have gotten in both posts and private messages to stay with the Octagon. The consensus is that Cincyeast52 is a worthless piece of shit and to just ignore the troll. I have a thick skin and a short fuse and my initial reaction to a post like that is to tell the person to go fuck themselves. A2 has made me control my temper and I now limit my outbursts to private messages. However, I have always been a little leery about posting on the Octagon because I am a total outsider with no connection to the city of Cincinnati. That's why I'm flattered with the support I have gotten. Since Cincyeast52 is indeed a worthless piece of shit, I'm back at least for the time being. Here is a photo of Aries and Lexi that I was saving for Memphis. Instead, it's now the exclusive property of the Octagon. Hope you enjoy Aries and Lexi as much as me. Well, I realize that's not possible unless you come to Memphis to get your dick sucked, or whatever else is on their menu. I understand that their menu it is pretty comprehensive. Now, if I just wasn't too lazy to fuck. :D
Wow! You having a bad day or what? I think maybe you need to learn to listen to the crickets. They will tell you a lot. My kindergarten teacher taught me that if ya can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. So if a girl gives it her best shot but isn't my type, or isn't quite as pretty as I'd hoped, well that's just going to lead to crickets. Now if a girl deceives me, upsells, no shows, bait-and-switches, etc., you'll hear about it. But a few extra pounds? A mediocre BJ technique? Nope.
Thankfully, my brothers here have saved me from too many bad ones. The secret is not only reading the good reviews, but also listening to the crickets. When a girl posts here regularly, or has been posting on BP for months, and none of the reliable guys here are recommending? Those are some fairly loud crickets. You might not know exactly why, but you will know that most of the guys who toftt chose not to post (crickets!
Many of the girls have friends and white knights. Even the mediocre ones. I recently met a girl here who told me the guy recommending her was an old high school buddy. So unfortunately, when reading a rave review you really need to check the source a little.
Now all that said, those of us who generally hesitate to post about an honest girl who tried but missed the mark really DO need to post about the ones our friend should see. So we can tell the difference. For example, how many of you schlepps have seen Jennaveccia and kept it to yourself? Shame on you and shame on me too! (EE. I do owe you a review on that one!) Hendo, if you're looking for a treat and you're as selective as it sounds, forget the mystery girls and just check in with EE, UTR, or any of the dozen others who are highly recommended by trusted mongers. Above all, unless you've got the itch for a doubtful adventure, avoid the cricket girls.It is the Octagon. I can rant, rave and have an opinion Cricket. I don't have to have a bad day and I trashed no one. Just gave my opinion. This is where it is allowed.
Hendo.
I was both surprised and greatly flattered at the support I have gotten in both posts and private messages to stay with the Octagon. The consensus is that Cincyeast52 is a worthless piece of shit and to just ignore the troll. I have a thick skin and a short fuse and my initial reaction to a post like that is to tell the person to go fuck themselves. A2 has made me control my temper and I now limit my outbursts to private messages. However, I have always been a little leery about posting on the Octagon because I am a total outsider with no connection to the city of Cincinnati. That's why I'm flattered with the support I have gotten. Since Cincyeast52 is indeed a worthless piece of shit, I'm back at least for the time being. Here is a photo of Aries and Lexi that I was saving for Memphis. Instead, it's now the exclusive property of the Octagon. Hope you enjoy Aries and Lexi as much as me. Well, I realize that's not possible unless you come to Memphis to get your dick sucked, or whatever else is on their menu. I understand that their menu it is pretty comprehensive. Now, if I just wasn't too lazy to fuck. :DAlways appreciate the pictures / insight / names to faces that otherwise I rarely get to see on some of these providers.
I'm assuming you knocked the bottom out of that duo more than once, considering the purity of those physiques.
You've worn it out.A2, I know you don't hand out many points in the Octagon, but maybe you could just change this guy's name to fucktard for the next thirty posts or so?
I like Glock's picks and have been taking notes for a trip down that way later this year. I hope this piece of shit doesn't cause Glock to quit posting.
A2, I know you don't hand out many points in the Octagon, but maybe you could just change this guy's name to fucktard for the next thirty posts or so?
I like Glock's picks and have been taking notes for a trip down that way later this year. I hope this piece of shit doesn't cause Glock to quit posting.on another thread I would have. Of all of us here, IMHO I think Glock is just about the nicest guy on the forum. Sincy or anywhere.
A2
MassageFreak
02-16-14, 11:28
Glock does post dandy pics and I also have been taking notes And I will say one other thing. I do like the fact that admin2 posts here with us and gives intel and opinions. It's nice to know someone is here on our side keeping the peace and keeping everyone in line. Oh yea I happen to think I'm the nicest on here, we'll maybe the most blunt as well. MF.
on another thread I would have. Of all of us here, IMHO I think Glock is just about the nicest guy on the forum. Sincy or anywhere.
A2
Glock does post dandy pics and I also have been taking notes And I will say one other thing. I do like the fact that admin2 posts here with us and gives intel and opinions. It's nice to know someone is here on our side keeping the peace and keeping everyone in line. Oh yea I happen to think I'm the nicest on here, we'll maybe the most blunt as well. MF.I'm a self-righteous prick. I know that. But at the same time, I'm also fair. I am perfectly willing to call BS if I see it, and give credit where credit is due.
MassageFreak
02-17-14, 08:06
Which side am I on? LOL
I'm a self-righteous prick. I know that. But at the same time, I'm also fair. I am perfectly willing to call BS if I see it, and give credit where credit is due..
I do not know what to think of this guy? Trouble maker, provider, some one with a grudge, Uncle LEO, or by his claim the Mack as he gets exceptional services from providers that are scammers and give nothing but empty pockets. I do not buy it. Something is rotten in Denmark. Anyone?
Hendo.
I do not know what to think of this guy? Trouble maker, provider, some one with a grudge, Uncle LEO, or by his claim the Mack as he gets exceptional services from providers that are scammers and give nothing but empty pockets. I do not buy it. Something is rotten in Denmark. Anyone?
Hendo.Those who say they have seen providers but who do not post reviews do not have the right to call BS, please help us all by posting reviews.
Those who say they have seen providers but who do not post reviews do not have the right to call BS, please help us all by posting reviews.OK. I bow to your greatness. You are the Sketchy Provider Whisperer that turns Shitty Scammers into Rockstars. I have posted reviews but I have only been back in town for a few weeks and just got snipped. I have to be able to fuck and in town to fuck them to post on it, would you not agree? Even so, I did manage a night out and a post since I have been back. I also have an offer or two to take up but schedules and snow have not allowed me too. I would rather read the other good posts of Candi you said where here on USG but I have not found one yet. If she has turned her ways sign me up but I think not…but as you say you got your out cause YMMV.
Hendo.
Exactly what do you trolls get out of starting arguments on a forum like this. Are your lives really that pathetic and meaningless that the only time you feel alive is when you snipe at anonymous people on a sex forum?
Just wondering,
A2.
Member #4637
02-20-14, 08:56
Exactly what do you trolls get out of starting arguments on a forum like this. Are your lives really that pathetic and meaningless that the only time you feel alive is when you snipe at anonymous people on a sex forum?
Just wondering,
A2.It does seem pathetic, but it's just guys with Low-T trying to pretend their 19 year old studs again. I'm guilty too.
SashaBlack
02-20-14, 10:58
Why are you so awesome? ...and why haven't you come to visit your good ol' home town?
Sasha.
Why are you so awesome? ...and why haven't you come to visit your good ol' home town?
Sasha.Me coming to Sincy isn't something you should be looking forward to it's something you should be living in fear off! If I'm ever alone with you, oh lordy lordy!
Disclaimer; This was not a threat of violence, Sasha knows I find her adorable. This post was an ironical commentary on the EXTREME desire I have to drink so deeply of her essence that I might consume her very soul. Please don't send me any mail about this.
Advertisers that send me Multiple PM's about how long it took their FREE FUCKING ADS to post! If you are an advertiser here, and you want to get banned from the site, this is a really good way to do it.
I work twice a day, usually at 11 am and 11 pm Buenos Aires time. It generally takes me 2-2.5 hours to go through all the posts. If I'm having dinner with somebody that night, I'll generally work at 8 pm then go have fun then once I put the hooker in a cab I'll log in and do about half of what is there at 2-3 am before going to bed with icepacks on my johnson.
A2.
ClassASweetie
02-20-14, 12:49
Just a bit of a rant. One of my regs wanted to see me but alas I am out of town touring. So I suggested two other providers that have pretty good reviews. I told him to let them know I recommended him, and he even has other references besides me. He set up something with one provider for 2 hours. He checked in hours before and nothing from her. She said she never got the message, which I find hard to believe but whatever. Then she never even texts me to check the reference, so obviously it wasn't that important to her. If you ladies don't want the referrals I have no problem taking care of it when I get home, but I was trying to refer you to a nice guy, who likes to hobby regularly, and this is what he gets? And this looks bad on me because I pride myself on the girls I refer to my clients when I am gone. It makes me wonder whether or not I should even continue to do it, when things like this happen.Doll just take that provider off your list of referrals. It's sad that this happened and it was incredibly sweet of you to do this. You have one less on your list now. You are a very sweet girl and you take the time to do things a lot of other providers don't do, so don't let one bad apple ruin what you always do babe. It's just a shame someone could care so little.
TheDaytimer
02-20-14, 13:16
The problem is obvious. You're spending way too much time with the local hookers.
ALSO. I've be alone BCD with Sasha more than once. She'll eat you alive my friend.
Advertisers that send me Multiple PM's about how long it took their FREE FUCKING ADS to post! If you are an advertiser here, and you want to get banned from the site, this is a really good way to do it.
I work twice a day, usually at 11 am and 11 pm Buenos Aires time. It generally takes me 2-2.5 hours to go through all the posts. If I'm having dinner with somebody that night, I'll generally work at 8 pm then go have fun then once I put the hooker in a cab I'll log in and do about half of what is there at 2-3 am before going to bed with icepacks on my johnson.
A2.
So much for the drug free part of her post. Sometimes a nubie is right.You may smear peanut butter on your genitalia or wear your grannies panties on your head and post all about the "druggies" or this chick Kelly to your hearts content in The Octagon, but I'm changing all your posts on all other threads to Homo/Gay/Lesbian infractions. Your obsession with this chick is a little weird.
A2
Cincyeast52
02-21-14, 14:39
Curious as to why you, as the Moderator, feel the need to trash any of us in a category that is free-form and anything goes?
It happens quite regularly.
It truly is puzzling. I don't believe Jackson ever got on here and belittled the users of this forum.
The nature of a Moderator is to make sure that rules are adhered to.
That I understand clearly.
But to regularly demean some of us just goes too far.
Even though you do it "in black ink".
And there you have it.
I have NEVER demeaned YOU, A2, even though you are a pompous ass pipsqueak.
The things YOU brag about make me want to vomit.
Yet it is the octagon, and I don't comment on your bizarre and nausea-inducing blathering.
Why do YOU subject US to your judgmental puking?
Moderate the forum, yes.
Subject us to your name calling? I don't think so.
Exactly what do you trolls get out of starting arguments on a forum like this. Are your lives really that pathetic and meaningless that the only time you feel alive is when you snipe at anonymous people on a sex forum?
Just wondering,
A2.
Cincyeast52
02-21-14, 14:45
Exactly what do you trolls get out of starting arguments on a forum like this. Are your lives really that pathetic and meaningless that the only time you feel alive is when you snipe at anonymous people on a sex forum?
Just wondering,
A2.Go ahead and remove me from this forum. I am done.
If it going to be moderated by you, I have no desire to get back on.
You, A2, are some kind of insecure little fat guy who prides himself on talking like a big, big man. I abhor you and people like you.
Frankly, you make me sick.
Ban me, you loser.
SashaBlack
02-21-14, 15:36
Me coming to Sincy isn't something you should be looking forward to it's something you should be living in fear off! If I'm ever alone with you, oh lordy lordy!
Disclaimer; This was not a threat of violence, Sasha knows I find her adorable. This post was an ironical commentary on the EXTREME desire I have to drink so deeply of her essence that I might consume her very soul. Please don't send me any mail about this.Trust me I'll leave you needing more than an ice pack at 3 am 😘.
I'm just simply letting you know I appreciate all the hard work you do to keep me and the other ladies on here as safe as possible from a distance.
Muah.
Your soul 😜.
SashaBlack
02-21-14, 15:38
ALSO. I've be alone BCD with Sasha more than once. She'll eat you alive my friend.Don't give all my secrets away LOL.
I saw the ad replied they are quick to reply, I am interested to see your report if it goes thru. Benn thinking about a 3 way for awhile wounder if any providers on here offer that? (I know I am sick LOL).And they replied back. I told them what I wanted which is what they were offering and no reply back. They can't be too serious. I sent a few emails over two days and no luck. I call bullshit on this one.
Go ahead and remove me from this forum. I am done.
If it going to be moderated by you, I have no desire to get back on.
You, A2, are some kind of insecure little fat guy who prides himself on talking like a big, big man. I abhor you and people like you.
Frankly, you make me sick.
Ban me, you loser.I called out the peanut butter guy because this is the third or fourth user name he has been using to terrorize a provider with. He obsessed with this chick and that's all he does is come on the forum and talk about her drug use.
If you think Jax never does this you haven't been paying attention. I'm a WHOLE lot nicer than he ever was.
I am a little fat, but I'm working on that. I didn't point my question at anybody, I was venting about trolls in general. You my friend were the guy that volunteered that info. I find comfort in knowing you find me abhorrent, I'm certain that I've never been more sure that I am leading a good life than I am by knowing a douche like you finds me distasteful.
Thank you for telling me you find me repugnant, you won't be missed.
A2
PS, that's not quite true, I also know I'm leading a good life because Sasha likes me.
TheDaytimer
02-21-14, 21:00
Don't give all my secrets away LOL.Now Sasha. Remember when I brought my special toys to play with? I practiced RESTRAINT and didn't tell him about that adventuie. That's our secret! ! !
Curious as to why you, as the Moderator, feel the need to trash any of us in a category that is free-form and anything goes?
It happens quite regularly.
It truly is puzzling. I don't believe Jackson ever got on here and belittled the users of this forum.
The nature of a Moderator is to make sure that rules are adhered to.
That I understand clearly.
But to regularly demean some of us just goes too far.
Even though you do it "in black ink".
And there you have it.
I have NEVER demeaned YOU, A2, even though you are a pompous ass pipsqueak.
The things YOU brag about make me want to vomit.
Yet it is the octagon, and I don't comment on your bizarre and nausea-inducing blathering.
Why do YOU subject US to your judgmental puking?
Moderate the forum, yes.
Subject us to your name calling? I don't think so.Speak for yourself fucktard and quit trying to muster an imaginary majority. Most folks see this for exactly what it is: Looking-Glass Perception.
Speaking for myself, A2 has been an incredible moderator that has improved this board dramatically. The Octagon serves a wonderful purpose: a grease trap for the rest of the board. Notice how free of clutter and chaos the rest of the board is? You can thank A2's moderation.
Please refrain from the public masturbation of the grand exit; If you don't like it here leave and don't come back, but quit making so much noise about it when you shut the door on the way out. Some of us old farts are trying to grab a nap before our next hobby adventure.
Delicious Dawn
02-22-14, 02:55
I must say, I agree with your statement. A lack of common sense, and wrong on both accounts.
Wise up, people. This is how one draws attention to themselves.
Dawn.
No wonder folks on here get busted. I witnessed a young lady today checking into a local hotel.
I was walking out of the bathroom in the lobby and I spot a man on the phone asking for a room number.
I took a seat in the lobby and could here him clearly.
Of course, I was interested...I could tell whatever was happing it was shady.
So, I tune into the girl checking in and can tell she's on the phone with the other guy.
She said room...!
Shocker to see this all so in the open for cameras and staff to see.
Some of these young ladies need to be more discrete.
Delicious Dawn
02-22-14, 03:13
Ms. CameronX,
I don't know you, have never spoke to you, have never met you, but I adore you.
That's all I need to say.
All the best.
Dawn.
I have been a provider off and on for years. I dropped off the scene when I graduated college and went into the corporate world to put my college degree to use. Only seeing people that I knew on the side. When I dropped off the scene no one that I knew was doing the BBBJ, CIM or "blow and go" specials and sure as hell not BBFS. Since showing back up on this scene, in the last year, I am finding that I am a dying breed. I'm practically being bullied (not by all) and turned away (by some) because by definition (to some) I'm not considered a true GFE because when it comes to BJ covered is as far as I will go. Which, I seriously could careless about a silly definition when it comes to my health and the health of others. However, you would be surprised at the amount of gentlemen out there who are fine with CBJ and who actually prefer it that way, with that being said when it comes to the reality of this site most of them aren't located here. I've accepted what has become the norm for others on this site as far as BBBJ, CIM, and other random acts but anyone who participates in BBFS is putting everyone at risk, everyone. I'm no saint but I do have the sense that god gave me and I tend to use it more times than not. To be clear, I have no business or opinion when it comes to the dealings of others and what they choose to do or not to do. This is my perspective and some insights from my own experiences.
CX.
But no mutual DATY fingers in wholes tongues in holes could be dangerous Kissing optional depending on where your mouths have been before you hook up Two lovely ladies gettin it on or you could invite a man in and make it a feast smorgasbord. Kisses and have a good day to you both.
TheDaytimer
02-22-14, 14:55
An even stupider one. I was walking in the front door of a reasonably nice motel and a real cutie was checking in so of course my eyes spent a few seconds checking her out (SORRY Dawn! I can't help it. It's built into my DNA) She turned to me and said in not so soft a voice "I'm just getting the room honey, We go go up and play in just a minute. " The problem was. SHE was NOT the woman I was there to see. This stupid act exposed BOTH of us. I reacted in a cool manner and just said. Sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone else, and continued to walk.
I must say, I agree with your statement. A lack of common sense, and wrong on both accounts.
Wise up, people. This is how one draws attention to themselves.
Dawn.
TheDaytimer
02-22-14, 15:00
And she's not so hard on the eyes either!
Ms. CameronX,
I don't know you, have never spoke to you, have never met you, but I adore you.
That's all I need to say.
All the best.
Dawn.
SashaBlack
02-22-14, 19:42
Now Sasha. Remember when I brought my special toys to play with? I practiced RESTRAINT and didn't tell him about that adventuie. That's our secret! ! !Wow I forgot all about that. Please bring those back I have a couple to add.
I will never understand. Guys sending me emails asking me to delete a post of theirs because the chick in question doesn't like it. Now these are obviously strait shooting guys, the douchebags that post untrue negative posts about girls that piss them off would NEVER ask me to take them down, these guys have to be pretty honest. They all say the same thing "the chick is given me grief about it. If I responded to them instead of just hanging up would be to say "then learn to fuck better, and your reviews will improve." I do get some from guys that say "I was kind of pissed when I wrote that, could you delete it so I can post one that's more fair. I get that, and commend the extra effort on the guys part to be fair and honest. But because a girl didn't like an honest review? I wouldn't do it.
Natti is a great example, her first reviews here weren't so great. She never complained to me about it, her customer service was first fucking rate. She openly apologized on the forum for what she lacked, fixed it, and has been getting solid reviews ever since. She's looking so hot, and getting such great reviews I'd ask her to join my virtual harem, but I'm pretty sure she's still pissed at me.
I always delete the posts in question if they were the OP, but I'll never understand it.
Just the thing that makes me go hmmmmm today.
A2.
TheDaytimer
02-23-14, 10:09
Wow I forgot all about that. Please bring those back I have a couple to add.That sounds like an invite! See your PMs and A2 - eat your heart out.
Sweet Lady!!
It is true, we have never made each others acquaintance, but I can tell from your genuine sentiments that you, my dear, are a class act.
Best,
CX.
Ms. CameronX,
I don't know you, have never spoke to you, have never met you, but I adore you.
That's all I need to say.
All the best.
Dawn.
Delicious Dawn
02-23-14, 21:12
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...Just crazy. With all the options available today to keep this completely secret, people just don't do it. I took the easiest path of all. I don't have a wife or gf or any significant other, nor have for a very long time. My cat sometimes gets pissed when you gals come over and she has to get off the bed. But other than that, covering my tracks is easy. My will states that my hard drives get erased.
Sorry you are going through this Dawn. From all accounts on here you are a lovely gal that I just haven't had the pleasure of meeting yet. Take care and I hope that everything works out well for you on this front.
HuntLadys29
02-24-14, 06:04
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...Wow it's a shame you are going thru this, I have never met you although you are on my bucket list, through your post you seem like a nice lady. I think the wife should confront him and leave you out of this. This isn't an affair this pay for play he has to contact you for anything to happen. I'm surprised there isn't more of this crazy stuff going on, wives are known snoops. Again I hope everything works out for everyone involved. Stay safe I'm out.
Dawn, you don't have to stand for this. On top of being a total hottie, I've always known you to be a tough business woman. She is guilty of harassment. After her next text to you, you simply say, you don't know who she or her husband is, and there are laws in the state of Ohio and Kentucky that she is breaking. As far as her husband being involved in the hobby, you tell her that you know nothing about that, and that maybe she and her husband could get into counseling if they are having marital problems. Be firm and suggestive and that's it. And tell her that you trust her that this will be the final time she contacts you. She still has to catch you in the act of something illegal, and she has not done so. You can be the Queen of Denial in this instance, simply because anything her husband says about you is hearsay.
BFDeal.
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...
ClassASweetie
02-24-14, 08:33
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...Sorry to hear this. Although I have never met you, I know what you are going thru. I have had one of my regs wife do the same to me. She went as far as to get a private investigater and he sat ad took pics of us at lunch and us walkin into a hotel and all kinds of shit. She blew my phone up and in the end I told her she needed to take this up with her husband not me. She had found my num on his phone and googled it. He still kept trying to see me and I end up having to tell him sorry but I wasn't into the drama and bs. This is one of the cons of being in this business. I hope things work out for you. And you wish you the best.
Hi all. Figured this was as good a thread as any to ask this question. Have seen many, many providers in the tristate area over the years, and most have been a pretty good time. But I'm looking for a particular kind of provider to give me that over the top experience that makes me want to empty my account on her, LOL. Most providers in the area are, for the most part, a little reserved or business-like in the way they go about this. Maybe wrong choice of words..more like sweet, but want you to direct the action and tell them what to do. What I'm looking for is the ultimate 'dirty girl' who can take control and be aggressive. Elaborating, the kind of woman who will come right after you, put a liplock on you that gets you going immediately, strips your clothes off, devours you, believes that sloppier and wetter is better, talks filthy, loves hair pulling and ass smacking, doesn't just 'allow' you to cum in her mouth or wherever, but actually demands it..I think you guys are getting the idea of what I'm talking about here. Who, in this area, is the best choice for that? Rhonda and SarahNorwood have been the closest in my experiences, and also Jill Brown from Columbus, if anyone can remember back that far, LOL. And just to be clear, I'm not talking about someone who becomes like this after seeing them for the umpteenth time, I'm talking about first time, from the get-go. Suggestions, guys??
Utr In Ohio
02-24-14, 12:39
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...Dawn,
This is not your fault. He didn't cover his tracks and wifey followed it back as far as she could... Your email Addy.
Whoever you are Mr. Monger...Wifey knows! If you know who you are don't let it brew. Man up and get it over with.
If you sir keep running from this wifey might start an investigation of her own!
Better she only knows you saw DD. It will make it worse if she finds the forum.
Last thing you need is her knowing you could have seen more.
IMO...Cut your losses! Protect DD!
Buddah.
I've had this scenario play out more times than one. Sadly, once from a guy who was trying to make his wife jealous. It's better to just ignore it the best you can, try blocking her number and emails. Engaging her by answering questions or acknowledging her will only make you feel worse and intensify the situation. Let him handle it, it is his sloppy mess, he can clean it up. It's stressful but more than likely it will smooth over, hopefully sooner than later.
Good luck,
CX.
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...
So you're looking for the "Oscar Experience". I'm intrigued by your description to see who the academy nominee's will be. However, if you're willing to "empty your account on her" that will have a great effect on how the scene is ultimately played out.
Here is to happy findings and happy endings.
CX.
Hi all. Figured this was as good a thread as any to ask this question. Have seen many, many providers in the tristate area over the years, and most have been a pretty good time. But I'm looking for a particular kind of provider to give me that over the top experience that makes me want to empty my account on her, LOL. Most providers in the area are, for the most part, a little reserved or business-like in the way they go about this. Maybe wrong choice of words..more like sweet, but want you to direct the action and tell them what to do. What I'm looking for is the ultimate 'dirty girl' who can take control and be aggressive. Elaborating, the kind of woman who will come right after you, put a liplock on you that gets you going immediately, strips your clothes off, devours you, believes that sloppier and wetter is better, talks filthy, loves hair pulling and ass smacking, doesn't just 'allow' you to cum in her mouth or wherever, but actually demands it..I think you guys are getting the idea of what I'm talking about here. Who, in this area, is the best choice for that? Rhonda and SarahNorwood have been the closest in my experiences, and also Jill Brown from Columbus, if anyone can remember back that far, LOL. And just to be clear, I'm not talking about someone who becomes like this after seeing them for the umpteenth time, I'm talking about first time, from the get-go. Suggestions, guys??
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...This is a case where you should deny, deny, deny. Do not initiate any contact with the woman. If she calls you, deny, then hang up. No explanations, don't let yourself be drawn into any discussion. I'm not trying to make you paranoid, Dawn, but be very careful of new clients. Watch your 6 for tails, and don't hesitate to call the police (how I hate to use that word) if you think you are being followed, in fact, the best thing is to drive to the nearest police station if you think you're being followed. Civilians do strange things, like try to set people up. Mostly she's probably just blowing smoke, but she might have connections that could allow her to create a problem.
Cheech.
Member #5522
02-24-14, 21:04
Hi all. Figured this was as good a thread as any to ask this question. Have seen many, many providers in the tristate area over the years, and most have been a pretty good time. But I'm looking for a particular kind of provider to give me that over the top experience that makes me want to empty my account on her, LOL. Most providers in the area are, for the most part, a little reserved or business-like in the way they go about this. Maybe wrong choice of words..more like sweet, but want you to direct the action and tell them what to do. What I'm looking for is the ultimate 'dirty girl' who can take control and be aggressive. Elaborating, the kind of woman who will come right after you, put a liplock on you that gets you going immediately, strips your clothes off, devours you, believes that sloppier and wetter is better, talks filthy, loves hair pulling and ass smacking, doesn't just 'allow' you to cum in her mouth or wherever, but actually demands it..I think you guys are getting the idea of what I'm talking about here. Who, in this area, is the best choice for that? Rhonda and SarahNorwood have been the closest in my experiences, and also Jill Brown from Columbus, if anyone can remember back that far, LOL. And just to be clear, I'm not talking about someone who becomes like this after seeing them for the umpteenth time, I'm talking about first time, from the get-go. Suggestions, guys??Sasha Black is everything on your list.
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...Of a lady down in TN that actually joined the large canine board after finding out her husband was in the hobby.
She would be in chat every night asking questions, not so much as to track down every lady that had seen him but to find out why the rest of us were in the hobby.
After a few nights we found out that one day he had left his blackberry at home and that she being the loving wife had take in to his office.
She dropped it in the cradle, and it immediately lit up that he had a 12:30 appointment at a small notel down the road from the office.
Then she headed over to the notel, got a room key from the desk since it was registered as Mr & Mrs and then walked in the door on his appointment.
Moral of the story is that you need to use some common sense when you're going to play in the hobby unless of course you have permission... .
NKYGentleman
02-25-14, 00:09
I just want to say that I'm sorry that your going through that Dawn. I was married for 20 years and never cheated on my wife. Now that I've been divorced for 2 1/2 years and didn't start in this hobby until about 10 months ago. I've never had to worry about any kind of drama. I wish you the best Dawn.
Gentlemen, please protect what you do from your wives. I have a wife blowing my email up begging me to confirm if I have slept with her husband. She has sent me links to the reviews this guy has left for me. She knows about Indys and TER. She has gave me his real name along with two photos. She says that she is going to do something about this, and she wants me to confirm. I am sure you know who you are. I do NOT like being placed in this position!! It is the first time that I have ever dealt with this.
Geez...304203
There's really not much you can do at this point.
304203
There's really not much you can do at this point.Looks like his 3/4" garden hose against that car explosion is like trying to defend yourself with a pea shooter against a grizzly bear; aka in my neighborhood as pissing in the wind or up a rope!
PillowTalk69
02-25-14, 11:33
Of a lady down in TN that actually joined the large canine board after finding out her husband was in the hobby.
She would be in chat every night asking questions, not so much as to track down every lady that had seen him but to find out why the rest of us were in the hobby.
After a few nights we found out that one day he had left his blackberry at home and that she being the loving wife had take in to his office.
She dropped it in the cradle, and it immediately lit up that he had a 12:30 appointment at a small notel down the road from the office.
Then she headed over to the notel, got a room key from the desk since it was registered as Mr & Mrs and then walked in the door on his appointment.
Moral of the story is that you need to use some common sense when you're going to play in the hobby unless of course you have permission... .At a well known hobbyist also in Tenn and walked into his place of business with her posse and ratted on him at his work place by outting him publicly Yes men take care of your privacy and respect the ladies also.
PillowTalk69
02-25-14, 11:38
Dawn,
This is not your fault. He didn't cover his tracks and wifey followed it back as far as she could... Your email Addy.
Whoever you are Mr. Monger...Wifey knows! If you know who you are don't let it brew. Man up and get it over with.
If you sir keep running from this wifey might start an investigation of her own!
Better she only knows you saw DD. It will make it worse if she finds the forum.
Last thing you need is her knowing you could have seen more.
IMO...Cut your losses! Protect DD!
Buddah.When a man fucks up he needs to own it and take the consequences. Don't bring the lady down because you couldn't get it right. As Buddah said better it be only one than many. Great post and very succinct and to the points. Cut your losses and move on.
At a well known hobbyist also in Tenn and walked into his place of business with her posse and ratted on him at his work place by outting him publicly Yes men take care of your privacy and respect the ladies also.Yes that was Whitney of Nashville. The incident is well known. I have actually seen and photographed her twice. I don't post her photos any more. As far as I know, she is still around.
PillowTalk69
02-25-14, 17:39
Yes that was Whitney of Nashville. The incident is well known. I have actually seen and photographed her twice. I don't post her photos any more. As far as I know, she is still around.And was one of a few that gave most of us older guys reasons to zip our lips or develop stories if we wanted to put out info to ladies to divert their attention to asking questions. I and my brother were only aware of a what happened through word of mouth on the boards so was agreeing that the guy should own up and keep Dawn out of this and her family and not bring attention to the site in general. JMO. Thanks for who it was. Don't make it to Tenn but know from the BD days they had some seriously HOT women in their area and from your photos, still do.
I just thought you were calling me an asshole. I just noticed my new title. Your wrong I'm not who you thought I was. You even admitted that you made a mistake, we all do. It just so happen the ones that you banned for a week didn't know about the new rule at the time. Since you assumed you thought I was someone else you made an ass out of both of us. Thats why I suggested that they get a warning first that is unless we are required to read forum rules each and every day. Sorry I rattled your feathers.
As Samuel L Jackson said in Pulp Fiction; "Have you finished? Well allow me to retort."
As Kristi found out, if providers fuck up and double post by accident and send me a message before I mod the forum I just delete the extra one before it goes live. UTR did that because he forgot the pics, I thought I deleted it but I fucked up.
Why I changed your title to "Asshole?" You're not new, you're somebody that posts here on a regular basis and you didn't have the balls to do this with your regular name. Do you see that button on all the posts that says "Report Post?" Next time fucking use it and don't be such an asshole. I gotta pretty good idea who this is and if you don't knock it the fuck off I'm not gonna let you post about your ATF that got hit by this anymore.
Are you feeling me?
A2
Yes that was Whitney of Nashville. The incident is well known. I have actually seen and photographed her twice. I don't post her photos any more. As far as I know, she is still around.She went so far as to start a bit of a ruckus in the lobby at his office and wouldn't leave until he went to the ATM and gave her $2 k since she believed (wrongly) that he was the one that went out of his way to ruin her social.
What was even worse about that incident was that the posse with her wasn't a few of her ladies, it was several of her regular's that decided to go with her to help the guy make "the right decision".
That little incident pretty much killed the friendly hobby community in TN / KY / AL.
I just thought you were calling me an asshole. I just noticed my new title. Your wrong I'm not who you thought I was. You even admitted that you made a mistake, we all do. It just so happen the ones that you banned for a week didn't know about the new rule at the time. Since you assumed you thought I was someone else you made an ass out of both of us. Thats why I suggested that they get a warning first that is unless we are required to read forum rules each and every day. Sorry I rattled your feathers.You didn't send that request from this alternate account, you sent it from your regular account first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo
PillowTalk69
02-26-14, 07:03
She went so far as to start a bit of a ruckus in the lobby at his office and wouldn't leave until he went to the ATM and gave her $2 k since she believed (wrongly) that he was the one that went out of his way to ruin her social.
What was even worse about that incident was that the posse with her wasn't a few of her ladies, it was several of her regular's that decided to go with her to help the guy make "the right decision".
That little incident pretty much killed the friendly hobby community in TN / KY / AL.The community for what she did. I believe that is called extortion. Whatever happened to the dude in question? No hobbyist should see any woman who pulls that crap JMO 2 K is a lot of bread if she was wrong and if she was hope she apologized but doubt that happened. Nice post Warlock. Great info.
Member #4570
02-26-14, 13:49
I just thought you were calling me an asshole. I just noticed my new title. Your wrong I'm not who you thought I was. You even admitted that you made a mistake, we all do. It just so happen the ones that you banned for a week didn't know about the new rule at the time. Since you assumed you thought I was someone else you made an ass out of both of us. Thats why I suggested that they get a warning first that is unless we are required to read forum rules each and every day. Sorry I rattled your feathers.Hey A2, I just noticed his new title also. That is pretty f'ing cool if you ask me (and I know nobody did). Can you change mine to Major Asshole? Then you can be change yours to Lord Dark Helmet and say you are surrounded by assholes!
-BigBird69.
Lol bird, in Texas we would all be shaking our heads saying "That boy just aint rait."
Just a note to Admin, I have noticed more and more lately when I try to log on I am getting attack and malware notices. I would appreciate it if you could let us know if the site is getting attacked as in targeted by some asshole or group thereof, or are we just picking up some kind of general malware from some of the advertisers. Thanks.
Cheech.
A2=fuck you.
Just curious, A2=Fuck You kind of implies that I'm saying fuck you to you. Not that I have any aversion to saying that. Would it have been better to just write "Fuck you A2?"
I'm confused as to what you're trying to say.
A2
The community for what she did. I believe that is called extortion. Whatever happened to the dude in question? No hobbyist should see any woman who pulls that crap JMO 2 K is a lot of bread if she was wrong and if she was hope she apologized but doubt that happened. Nice post Warlock. Great info.That one has been playing out for years, still to this day. You can follow the sordid tale by doing a simple search of the name whitney on www.dirtyphonebook.com.
Just a note to Admin, I have noticed more and more lately when I try to log on I am getting attack and malware notices. I would appreciate it if you could let us know if the site is getting attacked as in targeted by some asshole or group thereof, or are we just picking up some kind of general malware from some of the advertisers. Thanks.
Cheech.So far with one exception it has always turned out that some link on the site is linked to a malware site. A couple times it's been, we are linked to some site that is linked to a malware site. I think (but don't know) that after you get on their shit list the first time it's easier to get on it the second and subsequent times.
I'm on this site everyday with my personal stuff, I'm running Win 7 Enterprise using Microsoft Security Essentials and only one time did it even block anything. Every other time it was just business as usual. Often when Chrome and Firefox (which uses Google) are alerting, IE doesn't.
All that being said, keep your computer patched, AV up to date, run frequent backups following the 3-2-1 rule, and don't do anything you're not personally comfortable with.
A2
Why are the guys that send me hate mail so obsessed with gay sex?
Just wondering,
A2.
Why are the guys that send me hate mail so obsessed with gay sex?
Just wondering,
A2.At the core of a person who hates is a hatred of oneself. Things branch out from there. Maybe being gay causes guys to hate themselves. Suicide rates are higher if that means anything and it probably does. It's all depression.
Admin,
Some guys are homophobic. Some are homophobic about men and not about women. Some guys question their own sexuality and try to prop it up by attempting to or actually abusing people of alternative lifestyles. And then, some guys are just assholes, LOL, and want to prove it publicly.
Cheech.
P.S., thanks for the feedback re: malware.
Utr In Ohio
02-27-14, 12:36
I can't speak for all but I have never cancelled an appt on anyone. And I have never been a no show. If I was to ever cancel on someone I would offer an incredible discount. I would never schedule someone if I have any doubt that I wouldn't be able to see them. But yes there is always two sides and many opinions. But also remember that you ain't losing money just time if a provider cancels. We do lose money tho. So there is a difference there babe.I have to disagree with you CASweetie.
1). Everyone has to cancel from time to time.
(If you haven't yet, congratulations!
Its how the matter is handled. I sometimes get pissed off when we are canceled on.
Who doesn't? But, its always just the thought that "This could be that one thing that upsets a girl and she gets a job at TGIF!
That upsets me or if a clients just says..." something came up. Bye!" That's often code for I found another girl to see. I call that being "shopped".
But, if I double book or we cancel we always offer free time!
But...Unless the client knows you are getting a room only to see him band he cancels. Then no money was lost.
Some of these guys take 2*3 hours off work to hobby that's a loss of money. And helluva Viagra is about 40 bucks so I imagine that's a loss to the client as well. #Blue balls # headache! .
Jmho.
Buddah.
I have met Lila Bella in person this evening, and I can tell you she is all that and then some. She has spunk, sass, and on top of that she is Gorgeous!! I have talked to her since she started, and she has had a few bad experiences, so she increased her rates attempting to weed out those type of guys. She is making her rate what I suggested to her to stay not only with the Cincinnati economy and market, but to get a steady clientele, and I know she will have no problems doing just that.
If she is too expensive for you, than there are others, but I am telling you to give her a try, you will NOT be disappointed. Sydney Moore has an ad right above hers today. Just my opinion, but one of them seems to win the desire moment completely over another. There's two kinds of shapely. Not seeing the curvaceous design in one of them. I don't expect everyone to have the same likes and wants. But in comparison, one of them has dynamic.
What I'm implying is simple; if someone is trying to gain the attention of many, better be rolling more than just a high end experience. Have that look that I'm sweating with the numerous cameras in the room and effect lighting and I can't control the minutes I got left before exploding.
For example; EatinCrayons came in rolling dice that she was the 'cut above' in the crowd of many. Then the pictures came, and I'm thinking ego shot way past reality. Neck down passes the litmus test but not the neck up. Nothing wrong with being more than you are but expect critical thinking to be the true explorer of what builds desire to meet and enjoy. Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings but I'm posting in the Octagon. I can take as many daggers as I can throw.
At least for now, Cincyeast52 not withstanding. Here is a shot of Aries that I took yesterday. It was cold outside, but hot inside. I love the glasses. I told her to leave them on.
At least for now, Cincyeast52 not withstanding. Here is a shot of Aries that I took yesterday. It was cold outside, but hot inside. I love the glasses. I told her to leave them on.I appreciate the return of Glockman, I always enjoy his photos. I had heard that he actually posts words but I have never seen them. Now for my true purpose. I propose that we designate some member as pinata of the week and we all beat the hell out of that individual. I have seen Christina crushed, Buddah beaten, Phatt pummelled, Glockman gunned down, Admin 2 attacked, and other such acts of love and camaraderie applied mercilessly to members on this site, so why not share the wealth and beat down someone new each and every week all in the name of helping each other maintain our self esteem. I can hardly wait for Walt to get whupped. As always.
I appreciate the return of Glockman, I always enjoy his photos. I had heard that he actually posts words but I have never seen them. Now for my true purpose. I propose that we designate some member as pinata of the week and we all beat the hell out of that individual. I have seen Christina crushed, Buddah beaten, Phatt pummelled, Glockman gunned down, Admin 2 attacked, and other such acts of love and camaraderie applied mercilessly to members on this site, so why not share the wealth and beat down someone new each and every week all in the name of helping each other maintain our self esteem. I can hardly wait for Walt to get whupped. As always.It's A2, not Admin 2, we are all friends here. Glock writes words in his posts? I'll be damned, I never noticed that before..
Member #5260
02-28-14, 08:48
I have met Lila Bella in person this evening, and I can tell you she is all that and then some. She has spunk, sass, and on top of that she is Gorgeous!! I have talked to her since she started, and she has had a few bad experiences, so she increased her rates attempting to weed out those type of guys. She is making her rate what I suggested to her to stay not only with the Cincinnati economy and market, but to get a steady clientele, and I know she will have no problems doing just that.
If she is too expensive for you, than there are others, but I am telling you to give her a try, you will NOT be disappointed. She is on hiatus for two weeks having a minor surgery, but will be back and looking forward to meeting some great guys.
I will be on tour the 9-31 so I would suggest seeing her, Amber, Summer and Sandy, Rhonda, Dawn, and all the other great girls that are on here.$500 per hour is too expensive for 99% of the people on this board and now you are offering duo's with her. So if I take her rate and your rate, is it $750 an hour then? Please get with reality.
PillowTalk69
02-28-14, 09:12
"But in comparison..." should read "but in my opinion". It's pretty difficult to compare a girl that is 5'3', 115 lbs. To another that is, well, not. And there is nothing wrong with anyone being bigger or smaller, it's just looking at apples next to oranges. I find clients all like very different things and I find that I gained popularity pretty quickly in part because there aren't a lot of extremely petite, short haired blondes in this game. That's in no way to say that I am better than anyone else, it's saying I offer something different, something not at all widely available, and apparently something pretty appealing.
I also in no way misrepresent myself. I am all natural, have no tattoos, I really am 36, I am educated, and I look exactly like my UNEDITED photographs taken just this month. I offer a true GFE experience, there isn't a thing mechanical about me, that have left my clients ecstatically pleased.
I have no problem with prospective gentlemen that pass me buy to save a buck, thinking that a bang is a bang. My rates are in part intended for that. I would never claim or want to be the best out there but I know I am damn sexy, both body and face (my pics are unblurred so everyone can see), witty, and I can make a man beg for more of me. I've never had a client not come back or deem me their ATF. I've had nothing but 5 star, rave reviews. It's not going to my head, it just is what it is. So hate me for it.
I'm not here to "gain attention" as you put it. I am here to run a favorable business. I'd prefer a small, elite group of regulars, period. That's exactly what I have now, I have no complaints and do not want for business.
Anyone can complain about me, my rates, and anything else they'd like about me once they've had a date with me, or even just met me for coffee. Otherwise, I'm quite frankly quite sick of the bull, unfounded comments. When people take this much time out of their day to ***** about me it says more about them than it does me;).
Lila Bella.I appreciate a woman trying to weed out the guys she may not think are NOT her cup of tea but for 5 Franklins the lady should be in Chicago, LA, NY, LV, or Boston just to name a few. Don't price yourself out of the market. Common sense goes a long way. The last woman I knew in this who commanded that kind of money and got it easily was Candy Kemp in Tenn and she was a stone cold FOX with a menu that would make a PSE man cry Uncle and put to shame most women looks wise today with possibly the exception of Taylor Fox. Look at your duo partner and learn 250 to 3 is about tops in this area and you don't have the rep to command either one. All you have to do is look at Rhonda, Dawn, Molly, little Sexy Me. Sasha, CupCake, Airella who aren't getting anywhere near what you are asking and their cups runneth over and from reviews all who can make grown men scream and see what they are asking. Then go accordingly. Don't care what you think yours is made of but it sure isn't 5 and yes there are men galore who will fork it over because they still subscribe to that age old myth you get what you pay for. Ain't so trust me. As lovely as you are don't price yourself into a position where soon you will be asking that famous question heard round the hobby, "would you like fries with your meal"? Be concerned about what men think about you dear lady. If they don't like you and spread that it has driven better women than you to the sidelines. JMO and have a good day.
TexasMonger
02-28-14, 09:45
I appreciate a woman trying to weed out the guys she may not think are NOT her cup of tea but for 5 Franklins the lady should be in Chicago, LA, NY, LV, or Boston just to name a few. Don't price yourself out of the market. Common sense goes a long way. The last woman I knew in this who commanded that kind of money and got it easily was Candy Kemp in Tenn and she was a stone cold FOX with a menu that would make a PSE man cry Uncle and put to shame most women looks wise today with possibly the exception of Taylor Fox. Look at your duo partner and learn 250 to 3 is about tops in this area and you don't have the rep to command either one. All you have to do is look at Rhonda, Dawn, Molly, little Sexy Me. Sasha, CupCake, Airella who aren't getting anywhere near what you are asking and their cups runneth over and from reviews all who can make grown men scream and see what they are asking. Then go accordingly. Don't care what you think yours is made of but it sure isn't 5 and yes there are men galore who will fork it over because they still subscribe to that age old myth you get what you pay for. Ain't so trust me. As lovely as you are don't price yourself into a position where soon you will be asking that famous question heard round the hobby, "would you like fries with your meal"? Be concerned about what men think about you dear lady. If they don't like you and spread that it has driven better women than you to the sidelines. JMO and have a good day.I have not personally met Lila, but I started noticing her pictures pop up regularly here. Look, in my opinion, she is beautiful but what really makes for a good session is not how the provider looks, but the chemistry with the provider. When it comes to price, there are the ones charging high and the ones charging low. It is the provider choice really, not ours. Think of it like a car. A 911 in New York or in Boston, costs the same as in Cinci. The same applies for a Ford.
Do you see yourself going to the Porshe dealership and tell the salesman, hey you are in Cinci, your 911 should cost that much?
Any way, if you like it and can afford it, go for it, if not, just move on. Throwing darts or harsh words at both providers who command high rates and clients who pay these rates is not a normal adult behavior.
As I said, I have not met Lila, and probably will not meet her unless I happen to be in Cinci or she comes out to NY, I just said what I said cause you gents who act like that are very wrong. I am not perfect, but I have learned how I should behave.
Cheers.
TM.
I appreciate the return of Glockman, I always enjoy his photos. I had heard that he actually posts words but I have never seen them.
Glock writes words in his posts? I'll be damned, I never noticed that before.Abcdefghij.
Abcdefghij.Those pics always have me singing the alphabet too. LOL Great pics as always.
And that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I have met Lila personally and can say she is a cut above what we have on here. She is now showing her pics, and her attitude and personality that go with it are excellent. I am giving her some much needed advice, and helping her along the way since she is new. She actually was praised when she did raise her rates, and several guys had no problem with it. She has a clientele, that is no problem, but in the future she would like to expand on that.
If she isn't for you as I said there are plenty of others, but I think as do others she is going to fit in well here.Commendable, and no harm for the effort. Please read my response to her.
"But in comparison..." should read "but in my opinion". It's pretty difficult to compare a girl that is 5'3', 115 lbs. To another that is, well, not. And there is nothing wrong with anyone being bigger or smaller, it's just looking at apples next to oranges. I find clients all like very different things and I find that I gained popularity pretty quickly in part because there aren't a lot of extremely petite, short haired blondes in this game. That's in no way to say that I am better than anyone else, it's saying I offer something different, something not at all widely available, and apparently something pretty appealing.
I also in no way misrepresent myself. I am all natural, have no tattoos, I really am 36, I am educated, and I look exactly like my UNEDITED photographs taken just this month. I offer a true GFE experience, there isn't a thing mechanical about me, that have left my clients ecstatically pleased.
I have no problem with prospective gentlemen that pass me buy to save a buck, thinking that a bang is a bang. My rates are in part intended for that. I would never claim or want to be the best out there but I know I am damn sexy, both body and face (my pics are unblurred so everyone can see), witty, and I can make a man beg for more of me. I've never had a client not come back or deem me their ATF. I've had nothing but 5 star, rave reviews. It's not going to my head, it just is what it is. So hate me for it.
I'm not here to "gain attention" as you put it. I am here to run a favorable business. I'd prefer a small, elite group of regulars, period. That's exactly what I have now, I have no complaints and do not want for business.
Anyone can complain about me, my rates, and anything else they'd like about me once they've had a date with me, or even just met me for coffee. Otherwise, I'm quite frankly quite sick of the bull, unfounded comments. When people take this much time out of their day to ***** about me it says more about them than it does me;).
Lila Bella.My words brought you out behind those blurred photos.
And, you removed the blurred images on your last set. Remember you're the seller. I've earned my status to decipher and understand price structures down to a loaf of bread at the grocery store, and why it costs above or below the loaf to the left or right. No need for defensive statements.
It might seem unfair that one in the crowd called attention to you, but indirectly it'll be your gain. You've went from unreachable, others speaking on your behalf, to reachable, personable, attending to your online persona.
I've road in the Porsche the same as the Pinto. I've found that my time in this dream world has carved some distinct realities. Nobody ever made a statement about a Porsche that even though it's a great ride, the seat was too hard, or the shift pattern on the transmission was just too tight. Of course not; it's a Porsche with no flaws. That's what we're told to believe. I might be defending those in a different price structure, but it comes with good reason.
Countryboy72
02-28-14, 13:58
It's A2, not Admin 2, we are all friends here. Glock writes words in his posts? I'll be damned, I never noticed that before..These posts are great. Stating viewpoints and arguments with words not calling everyone an ass for disagreeing.
Lila, very nice response. Set your viewpoint while going out of your way not to diss anyone, NKY is right your post probably helped you.
Glock gets all tongue tied on here because he secretly wants to be Mr. A2's B**** so he just posts picks.
I wish I got 500 $ an hour, at times I am worth it, but it rarely happens. Makes me jealous of those who do.
(and Glock, just kidding man, don't shoot my ass). Party on Dudes!
She is making her rate what I suggested to her to stay not only with the Cincinnati economy and market, but to get a steady clientele, and I know she will have no problems doing just that.Hmmm. . .
I am just curious, as a general baseline, what you think the prevailing GFE rate is, for the Cincinnati economy?
Just to be fair, I will give mine before you answer:
AVG GFE: 150-175
ABV AVG GFE: 200-250
Sure you will see double these rates in other cities, such as I am tonight (talk about sticker shock), but keep in mind their regional "cost-of-living" and "average yearly income"may also be higher which impacts the actual value per dollar.
TheDaytimer
02-28-14, 17:54
Hmmm. . .
I am just curious, as a general baseline, what you think the prevailing GFE rate is, for the Cincinnati economy?.
Just to be fair, I will give mine before you answer:
LOW AVE: 100-125 becoming more available :)
AVG GFE: 150-175.
ABV AVG GFE: 200-250.
Sure you will see double these rates in other cities, such as I am tonight (talk about sticker shock), but keep in mind their regional "cost-of-living" and "average yearly income"may also be higher which impacts the actual value per dollar.
HuntLadys29
02-28-14, 19:22
"But in comparison..." should read "but in my opinion". It's pretty difficult to compare a girl that is 5'3', 115 lbs. To another that is, well, not. And there is nothing wrong with anyone being bigger or smaller, it's just looking at apples next to oranges. I find clients all like very different things and I find that I gained popularity pretty quickly in part because there aren't a lot of extremely petite, short haired blondes in this game. That's in no way to say that I am better than anyone else, it's saying I offer something different, something not at all widely available, and apparently something pretty appealing.
I also in no way misrepresent myself. I am all natural, have no tattoos, I really am 36, I am educated, and I look exactly like my UNEDITED photographs taken just this month. I offer a true GFE experience, there isn't a thing mechanical about me, that have left my clients ecstatically pleased.
I have no problem with prospective gentlemen that pass me buy to save a buck, thinking that a bang is a bang. My rates are in part intended for that. I would never claim or want to be the best out there but I know I am damn sexy, both body and face (my pics are unblurred so everyone can see), witty, and I can make a man beg for more of me. I've never had a client not come back or deem me their ATF. I've had nothing but 5 star, rave reviews. It's not going to my head, it just is what it is. So hate me for it.
I'm not here to "gain attention" as you put it. I am here to run a favorable business. I'd prefer a small, elite group of regulars, period. That's exactly what I have now, I have no complaints and do not want for business.
Anyone can complain about me, my rates, and anything else they'd like about me once they've had a date with me, or even just met me for coffee. Otherwise, I'm quite frankly quite sick of the bull, unfounded comments. When people take this much time out of their day to ***** about me it says more about them than it does me;).
Lila Bella.Just like a window all decorated for Christmas or Halloween its still a window, you can put your spin on your giner or personality but you are still a human being and it's still a vagina 500 is way to much money. Talking about your body your face intelligence means nothing again it's still a vagina it's still sex no more no less. You forget you are dealing with working class people in this city you're not in New York or Las Vegas you're in the Midwest and as far as your pictures not being blurry you just did that I even spoke on it. Get off your high horse lady and come back down to earth you are not all that. Oh and you seem racist .
At least for now, Cincyeast52 not withstanding. Here is a shot of Aries that I took yesterday. It was cold outside, but hot inside. I love the glasses. I told her to leave them on.Ok. So because of you, I've got this big wet sloppy spot on my computer screen from licking at all the right places on Ms. Aries. At some point, someone's going to invent iTaste but until then, I'm just going to have give you the F-you shout out of the day.
Have a great day and keep shootin'.
Dz.
Admin2.
Glad to see you censor me on this forum too. You Nazi sheep rapers are at least constant.
I don't think I deleted any of your posts here, however if I deleted one or two of the few hundred where you have called me a Nazi Sheep fucker, apologies. I normally don't edit posts here.
A2
Oh yeah, fuck you too.
Sir LanceLicksalot
02-28-14, 22:23
Okay... This "her rate is too high" horse has been beaten to a pulp and is on its way to the glue factory.
It is her body and her right to charge what she wants. If you don't want to pay that rate, then see one of the ladies who are selling the bodies for $150. No matter how much everyone keeps saying, $500/400/300 is tooo much, it won't force Lila to change. Nor should it.
I have been in the hobby for 20 years. I remember when $150 was a high rate. At $500 or even $250 I probably won't see her because I can't budget more than $200 per date. I am not a bottom feeder just someone who has found multiple women in this market that I enjoy (and I hope they enjoy me) for that price.
Just recently I had a lady offer to do two duo appointments with me and her friend in trade for a photo shoot and web page for her friend. I told her straight up, I don't do trades. My rate is $300 for a two hour shoot and another $100 to make a website from one of the many free sites that are out there. I have my price and I am sticking to it. If I don't do the shoot I won't be out anything. If I did the shoot and found out the friend and I didn't click, I would probably not go through with the appointments and would have nothing for my time. Some would say I should have taken her up on the deal. I say I have standards that I maintain. So does Lila.
So guys quityourbitchin' and see Silk, Molly, the EE ladies or one of the other ten or twelve who are in your price range.
After looking at her site I noticed this:
Punctuality is very important to me, please be on time for our appointment and if you are running late please let me know as soon as possible. If you are more than fifteen minutes late we will likely need to reschedule and you will be subject to a 20% fee.
If you cancel within twelve hours I do ask for a 20% fee payable by Green Dot Money Pak Reloadable Card, or a VISA Gift Card. I understand things happen, but please keep in mind my time is just as valuable as yours is.
With all the talk about her this is something to also consider. Interesting... And what does she do if she cancels?
Lila firstly has the right to charge whatever rate she wants to and feels she can get. Us guys have the right to pay that rate or not, as we choose, but no one has the right to tell her what she should charge. Remember the fable about the fox and the grapes. Second, she has the right to decide who she wants to see, and has the right to discriminate as she chooses. Quit whining.
The economics of this business are such that if a girl can get 500 an hour, and gets 2 or 3 hours work a week, she can live very well if she doesn't have exorbitant tastes. Working 3 hours a week for her is 6 grand a month, tax free, which for most of us would require making 8 or 9 grand taxable. And I don't begrudge her a dime of it. Remember she's probably not going to get to work till she's 65 and then retire with a pension. Quit whining. Or do some of you folks want the government to mandate that working girls have a maximum wage?
Cheech.
Member #5260
02-28-14, 23:12
Pay attention to her site. She is $300 an hour and I am $250 soon to be increasing to $300. I am just fine with reality hun.Read much hun?? Think that says $500, not $300. Good luck. She has a post in every city in Ohio so obviously she has very few, if any clients.
Classy Lila Bella.
I'm not like any other woman you have ever encountered. I'm mature, articulate and discreet. The true lady with class you won't be embarrassed to be seen with. A fine bottle of wine and great conversation for starters.
I'm a petite blonde (115 lbs., 5'3') with remarkable blue eyes and a sassy personality. Totally uninhibited and very responsive.
In or out calls available. Sophistication, charm and beauty come at a price. Exceptional service is not inexpensive and inexpensive service is not exceptional. $500 HR / $250 HHR.
Ron M from Chicago.
At 500 dollars I can see my girl 5 x's. She charges me 100 per Session. No Clock Watching or Rushing. Good Looking enough for what she charges me. After almost a year of seeing her, I've never had a Bad Session with her. No girl IMO is worth 500 per Session. Very few girls are worth 300 per Session. The Economy in Ohio must be in alot better shape than here in Chicago for the girls to charge those prices. Just my 2 cents.
Read much hun?? Think that says $500, not $300. Good luck. She has a post in every city in Ohio so obviously she has very few, if any clients.
Classy Lila Bella.
I'm not like any other woman you have ever encountered. I'm mature, articulate and discreet. The true lady with class you won't be embarrassed to be seen with. A fine bottle of wine and great conversation for starters.
I'm a petite blonde (115 lbs., 5'3') with remarkable blue eyes and a sassy personality. Totally uninhibited and very responsive.
In or out calls available. Sophistication, charm and beauty come at a price. Exceptional service is not inexpensive and inexpensive service is not exceptional. $500 HR / $250 HHR.Her personal site does say 300.
Lila firstly has the right to charge whatever rate she wants to and feels she can get. Us guys have the right to pay that rate or not, as we choose, but no one has the right to tell her what she should charge. Remember the fable about the fox and the grapes. Second, she has the right to decide who she wants to see, and has the right to discriminate as she chooses. Quit whining.
The economics of this business are such that if a girl can get 500 an hour, and gets 2 or 3 hours work a week, she can live very well if she doesn't have exorbitant tastes. Working 3 hours a week for her is 6 grand a month, tax free, which for most of us would require making 8 or 9 grand taxable. And I don't begrudge her a dime of it. Remember she's probably not going to get to work till she's 65 and then retire with a pension. Quit whining. Or do some of you folks want the government to mandate that working girls have a maximum wage?
Cheech.As an outsider, I could not have stated this this better myself.
I can remember back about 5 years ago it was very hard to find an escort for under $200 an hr.
And that didn't stop hardly anyone that I know, The cost of everything has went up, But the cost of the escorts has.
Went down a lot! IMHO a provider can and should whatever she wants! It's like your boss coming up to you.
And saying hey I want you to earn less then you were making a few years ago but I want you to work just as hard!
To me there are things that people just don't get when it comes to the money that some of these lady's put out to.
Make a decent profit. They have their hotel, makeup, sexy clothing, hygiene products, some need babysitters.
Transportation, food for when they ain't home and so on. So IMHO if you guys see a provider that you can't afford.
Then just move on to the one that will fit in you budget! There really isn't any need to call anyone out because they.
Want to make better money then someone else. Hell we all do it in our jobs! Why can't they!
Stay safe.
Wdm.
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Just like a window all decorated for Christmas or Halloween its still a window, you can put your spin on your giner or personality but you are still a human being and it's still a vagina 500 is way to much money. Talking about your body your face intelligence means nothing again it's still a vagina it's still sex no more no less. .I have to disagree, I think the rate can be determined by a number of factors. 1st what type of client are you seeking? What type of environment do you offer, are you thin or young or are you truly attractive, do you plop on your back with your legs spread or do you create an experience. I remember when the stip club in Mt Carmel first opened long before it became Dejavu, I went in one night and it was like seeing a Las Vegas showgirl, they were in costume Angels, army, cowgirls, ect. But at the end the were naked girls on a stage, I remember that night because of the show, for me it was something to see. I think if a girl can offer an experience wether its $300 or $2000 it can be a great value, personally I can't afford those rates but it has been pointed out on this forum that I may pay more than others. I don't see the regular girls that are so highly reviewed and at a lower rate, personally it freaks me out that the bed is still warm or that someone may have just donated to her dental program, so I normally chose ladies that appear to be the road less traveled, sometimes I chose well and other times I make horrible choices. If I had more funds where $3-500 would not present a burden I am sure that there are ladies who I would feel were a good value at that price.
HuntLadys29
03-01-14, 07:48
I have to disagree, I think the rate can be determined by a number of factors. 1st what type of client are you seeking? What type of environment do you offer, are you thin or young or are you truly attractive, do you plop on your back with your legs spread or do you create an experience. I remember when the stip club in Mt Carmel first opened long before it became Dejavu, I went in one night and it was like seeing a Las Vegas showgirl, they were in costume Angels, army, cowgirls, ect. But at the end the were naked girls on a stage, I remember that night because of the show, for me it was something to see. I think if a girl can offer an experience wether its $300 or $2000 it can be a great value, personally I can't afford those rates but it has been pointed out on this forum that I may pay more than others. I don't see the regular girls that are so highly reviewed and at a lower rate, personally it freaks me out that the bed is still warm or that someone may have just donated to her dental program, so I normally chose ladies that appear to be the road less traveled, sometimes I chose well and other times I make horrible choices. If I had more funds where $3-500 would not present a burden I am sure that there are ladies who I would feel were a good value at that price.Well this lady is advertising in about 6-7 different cities I'm quite sure her bed will be warm and some fool donated to her dental program at 500 dollars sorry I still don't agree and there isn't anything that you or anyone else can say that will change my mind. Sorry I would never pay 500 for a 36 yo woman I would be pressed to pay that much for a 19 yo. And sorry you can't compare Las Vegas showgirls to this chick they probably wouldn't let her in the back row. I don't mean to sound really harsh on this lady but that self serving rebuttal she wrote just shows she is a legend in her own mind. Be safe guys I'm out.
Member #5260
03-01-14, 08:30
Her personal site does say 300.I don't care what her personal site says. Look at her post in every city here in OH that she posted in. Where do you think I got that from?
I don't care what her personal site says. Look at her post in every city here in OH that she posted in. Where do you think I got that from?What's funny is she said elite group of regulars, period. That's exactly what I have now, I have no complaints and do not want for business. Yet she post ads.
Member #5083
03-01-14, 09:21
And sorry you can't compare Las Vegas showgirls to this chick they probably wouldn't let her in the back row. I don't mean to sound really harsh on this lady but that self serving rebuttal she wrote just shows she is a legend in her own mind. Be safe guys I'm out.I agree. She doesn't compare to the kind of talent other cities have to offer. Some of the HHr 1.0's I've seen are better looking and provide GFE. She doesn't do a thing for me. Sorry to offend anyone, but I wouldn't pay 1.0 for her, nice hotel room or not. Whodeyman is right about how pricing has dropped over the last 5 years. 3.0 was pretty much the norm for a nicer looking provider back then, local or travel girl. Remember Miami Companions who traveled the country, until they got busted? Girls ranged from 300-500. One of my best experiences was a $500 Russian in Ft. Lauderdale.
I have exchange a few emails with the lady in question. She is new. She also tends to be self-confident and argumentative. Half of that is appealing to me. She has jumped her rates up and down. She first showed on Backpage at a very low rate. She is learning the hobby. If she is getting help and advice from Sinful, I believe she will soon be a wonderful addition to the people in this business. For me, I think we have worried this bone enough and should let it drop.
Redbred.
DiscreetFriend
03-01-14, 16:45
Lila firstly has the right to charge whatever rate she wants to and feels she can get. Us guys have the right to pay that rate or not, as we choose, but no one has the right to tell her what she should charge. Remember the fable about the fox and the grapes. Second, she has the right to decide who she wants to see, and has the right to discriminate as she chooses. Quit whining.
The economics of this business are such that if a girl can get 500 an hour, and gets 2 or 3 hours work a week, she can live very well if she doesn't have exorbitant tastes. Working 3 hours a week for her is 6 grand a month, tax free, which for most of us would require making 8 or 9 grand taxable. And I don't begrudge her a dime of it. Remember she's probably not going to get to work till she's 65 and then retire with a pension. Quit whining. Or do some of you folks want the government to mandate that working girls have a maximum wage?
Cheech.I totally agree with you. I really don't understand what all the commotion is about. One of the first things that is taught in economics is that the way to allocate scarce resources (her time and attention) is through price rationing. If Lila's price is way outside what the market will bear she will have very few takers. Since there have been so many comments about whether she is worth it, I broke down and looked up her pictures. She is very attractive, and that is saying a lot coming from someone who vastly prefers much darker hair and much larger breasts. While her price is way out of my league, I suspect that she will do just fine here in spite of all the naysayers.
Just wow, ladies do you now understand why I always tell you that you can't win these fights?
A2.
It's clear you are either irritated that you can't afford me, and my rates are very much intended to keep those like you away from ladies like me, or you're afraid I will inspire others to raise their rates. Either way, you have never met me, and never will. Like, what is your personal problem with me? You are wayyyyy to wrapped up in me and my business. What do you think my rebuttal would say to you? Did you think I'd offer you a gratis visit or something? I can't tell you how many PMs I've received making fun of all I the whiny little school girls in here complaining about me when they've never met me. Your belly aching serves no purpose. Yes, you're right, I'm a legend in my own mind...I guess I wrote all my own reviews too. Ooooh! You told me!
Lila Bella.Hey come to Memphis. Ask Sinful Dreams. She knows me well. I can afford you. Get in front of my camera. Looking forward to it. The outsider.
HuntLadys29
03-02-14, 00:26
It's clear you are either irritated that you can't afford me, and my rates are very much intended to keep those like you away from ladies like me, or you're afraid I will inspire others to raise their rates. Either way, you have never met me, and never will. Like, what is your personal problem with me? You are wayyyyy to wrapped up in me and my business. What do you think my rebuttal would say to you? Did you think I'd offer you a gratis visit or something? I can't tell you how many PMs I've received making fun of all I the whiny little school girls in here complaining about me when they've never met me. Your belly aching serves no purpose. Yes, you're right, I'm a legend in my own mind...I guess I wrote all my own reviews too. Ooooh! You told me!
Lila Bella.As a famous president once said Now there you go again, I just expressed my opinion on what was being said by more than just me, but it does seem that I hit a nerve, at 500 a pop I wouldn't expect you to help a little old lady across the street for free, let alone give somebody a discount or god forbid something free, that's just the kind of person you seem to be. Me, Me, Me you are so wrapped up in you that you don't even get it. You got Pm's? Who gives a shit & as far as your reviews I've yet to see any. But you're peddling your wares in so many cities and states some bodies bound to bite, now Ms hotter than cat shit on a sunny August day leave me alone I don't want to see you and never did I've been on this site longer than you and I do remember when you weren't posting so me not having any involvement with you won't bother me one bit. You'll be alright, there are still about 45-46 more states you haven't posted in if you start now you'll have them all covered by morning. Good Night and may god bless. HL29.
I have the exact same cancellation policy as Sinful Dream. But since you appear to be the expert on my life and my business why don't you tell me what I should do if I cancel...cut the whining out already! You're childish, endless complaining is exhausting and serves zero purpose...Ok, you ask. We have all had providers cancel and leave us waiting, even high end providers. Yes our time is as valuable as yours. I would expect the same from you as your requesting or off the next rescheduled appointment. Yes I have been with providers that ask the same donation, and would again? Yes.
I do not complain about your donation, I do not make judgement on that until after I have been with a provider. And as you say it is ours to pay or stay away and your right to ask. I respect that.
HuntLadys29
03-02-14, 00:47
Just goes to show you that you have never had a $300 vagina if you believe a vagina is a vagina. Is Walmart a Macy's because it's all shopping? Is jewelry from KMart the same quality as Tiffany & Co.? No. Even I spend the extra $20 for the same item to go to Target instead of Walmart. It's not about the item necessarily, it's about the entire experience. And yes, a 26 year old airhead looking for her next meth fix for $100 an hour is not the same as a true lady that can hold an intelligent conversation before she makes his eyes roll into the back of his head for $300 an hour...maybe you don't need the conversation. Maybe you're happy with the providers you see. Perfectly fine with me. I also don't publicly comment on your choice of rate you prefer or your providers of choice so why is it that you take time to comment on my choice of rate or my type of preferred client?
And I would LOVE to know how I come off as racist...you're really reaching now sugar. So does that make providers that have an age limitation on their clientele a snotty girl? Please, find something better to do with your day than bash a provider you have never met and never will meet.
Lila Bella.Just to let you know when I'm shopping for myself I never shop at Walmart, and you're far from Tiffany's, and Archie Bunker always said he wasn't a racist. You put your preference in regard to color in your ad there has to be a reason, either you don't think black men can afford you or you think black men will rob you or you just don't like black men period either way you put it out there first I just piggy backed. So we can keep this going or you can go on with what you're doing but the more you talk the more people see.
Member #5260
03-02-14, 09:39
To the all the ladys out there, just remember the golden rule. He who has the gold rules. That means us. There is more good pussy in Cincy than days of week and more than any other city in OH. You want to pick a fight with us, you are pissing into the wind. Lilabilly will be gone soon enough.
TheDaytimer
03-02-14, 10:33
Seems like this cat-dog fight about rates and value is going to wind down soon. We need another good topic to start up.
Three cheers for A2 for building the OCTAGON. A place where. When I'm bored- I can always come for first rate interactive entertainment.
Maybe this photo of Lexi will help get our minds back in the gutter where they belong. Lexi is Aries partner. To see more of them in action check out the Memphis Escort Report board from time to time.
Member #5083
03-02-14, 12:38
Maybe this photo of Lexi will help get our minds back in the gutter where they belong. Lexi is Aries partner. To see more of them in action check out the Memphis Escort Report board from time to time.I still wouldn't pay even 1.0.
There is no prize here, nothing to win. But if these "gents", and I use that term loosely with some, think they can bash me and try and deter my business they had better rethink their strategy. I am tired of being picked on for no good reason."You better think" before you try and drag me into this. I have remained neutral, supporting your right to charge whatever you want. I did throw a flag on some of your comments in the review thread but that is a loooooonnnnnggggggg established rule regarding advertisers defending on the review threads.
My comment was directed at providers that aren't necessarily trying to fill the "high maintenance" niche that you seem to be going after. There is a prize here, the message you have going out to the several hundred to thousand local members who's business you are obviously trying to attract, otherwise why would you have placed the ads?
If you really want to get me off the fence, please feel free. This is all in black, not blue ink, you're more than welcome to respond as you see fit. (You're kind of new around here, I've sort of adopted Sincy and when I write in black like I am now I'm just another guy. When I write in Blue like this, I'm being the admin).
It's entirely up to you.
Dawn honey I have always been so fond of you. Yes we have had our differences, but glad we are able to work those out, as I have learned quite a lot from you. I hope in turn I have helped you out some as well. I have haters of course, but to be it's just more publicity, and obviously I am doing something right, or my name wouldn't keep coming out of their mouth. To the one that thinks I don't know what they are up to, I am very aware of it, and it will get you nowhere, so I suggest keeping your opinions and things that you call facts to yourself. Nobody is perfect on this board or anywhere, and never will be. I am sure everyone has skeletons in their closet. Yes I have made mistakes, and I am a much better person because of it.
I do consider myself a more upscale provider, and of course I put Dawn into that category as well. There is another one that posts on this board that I have been conversing with back and forth that is getting right up there as well. But what do you know some of the other ones told her I am not reference friendly, and I don't play well with others. Hmmm I guess more haters. I don't have a problem with giving references as long as I know who you are, and I have actually seen you. Yes there are guys who make up things to try to get an appt, go figure. I have been told by clients that providers will tell them my photos are photo shopped, ummm that I will try to make you exclusive?? WTF Honey I want you to get as much variety as possible, because if not you would have a wife or girlfriend that you would see all the time. The purpose of the provider is to "provide" a way out, or another means of excitement, for just that moment, or however long it lasts. I have regulars since I have started and I am very thankful for that.
I would like to have a Christmas get together for the girls, bury all the hatchets, and be what we are supposed to be...grown adult women, and stop all this hatred. We are supposed to help each other, not hurt each other. So a restaurant in the area, and enjoy each others company. Is that too much to ask?
Oh and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!! I love each and every one of you all.Although, I have never met you, you have said it best. You are spot on right and it is refreshing read from someone's ability to speak against a wrong that has been done by another person. God Bless you for adopting a child. Truly you care about people and children.
Signed Beckham5.
"a Porsche costs the same in NY as it does here"I don't want to dive into this unproductive argument, but that statement above simply is not factual:
http://www.motortrend.com
As you can see by Motortrend's data, the average new retail price, used / trade-in value, of Porshe products and services indeed fluctuate based on regional economy.
Again, it boils down to this:
Providers are free to charge whatever they believe their time and services are worth, and will either figure out their market niche and adjust accordingly, or they will find another profession.
Hobbyists (it is a hobby and therefore the income is indeed discretionary) have a right to frequent the providers of their choice and give return business to the providers they feel gave them the best experience at a fee they are comfortable with.
It really is silly to argue about this.
Do I think Lila's price is a bit high? Perhaps, but I don't know because I have not seen her. I can only go off my past experiences and current opportunities. While I might wait and see if she lowers her rates, I will probably still see her even if she doesn't lower her rate.
The true test would be if I would part with the $300 for return visits after I ACTUALLY SPEND TIME WITH HER!
Glock, buddy. Your pictures are fine and all, but you should look at the girls face when choosing a photo. In this photo, Lexi looks like she's either mentally handicapped, or very drunk, or a bit of both.She was high as a kite. But was actually sobering up.
HuntLadys29
03-02-14, 14:05
You already said you were done, yet here you go again. Obsessed much? If you were, I could understand, I have been told I am rather addictive. I don't recall ever saying you shopped at Walmart, I was making a simple comparison, and I never said I came from Tiffany's, again, it was a simple comparison of stores, not our personal habits or tastes. If you were too dense to get it, my apologies. I'll try and make it simpler next time.
Yes, I only date white gentlemen. That's very true. I have no problem with black men, or any other color of men socially. It's a personal preference. No one said a word, other than you, about black men specifically. It has nothing to do with being robbed, anyone can do that, it has nothing to do with who can and can't afford me, lots of white men can't, and I have plenty of black and other racially diverse friends. I didn't put anything "out there" other than an ad, you're the one that is trying to turn it into something it's clearly not.
Do the same rules apply to you? The more you incessantly complain the more I'm supposed to let some guy that's never met me walk all over me and make far fetched and untrue observations?
Lila Bella.As I said before the more you talk. You have plenty of black and racially diverse friends, funny how I've heard that before. But your race preference was put in as a side note however sad but true so instead of getting in a war of words with me why don't you get to posting you still have a lot more states to put your ad up in. You said you will be laid up about 2 weeks, shouldn't you be exercising rehabbing or something? Anything accept trying to convince everybody that you're not some 35 plus year old woman that's trying to be more than you are. And you keep implying that I somehow want you. Again legend in your own mind. I give you credit you are relentless but I can play the dozens with the best. Talk to you later.
I need to rant and rave for a min, but I would like to know if I am wrong in my view on this.
I am not going to put the provider on blast but she is a well regarded professional that has been around for awhile and I go way back with her. I received a text the middle of the week asking for help. They don't have a car and their foot was bothering them so they could walk to the closest gas station to put minutes on it. This was their text below.
"Well I need minutes or my phones going to be shut off and I'd even count it as a hh one day soon at your choosing please can you help me.".
So left my place went to a gas station for them at 11 pm, and sent them the pin so they could have the minutes. I am sure you see where this is going, when I go to collect today what I believe is a hhr they say that they ment they would take the amount I paid for the minutes off of their normal rate. I copy and pasted the same text I posted above and they said they can see why I thought what I did, but that's not what they MEANT, and it doesn't even make sense because their hhr rate is obviously much more, implying how could I possibly think that.
So this provider wanted me to get off my couch and go to the store and waste my time when I should have been going to bed and give them more business bc their would have been no discount just an amount off equal to what I spent for the min. While keeping their phone on allowing them to continue to make money while they sat at home. Their time is so valuable, why do the not value ours?
I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?
I need to rant and rave for a min, but I would like to know if I am wrong in my view on this.
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I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?Charger,
This is another topic we do about every 3-4 months.
IMHO, you're not out of line but you're expectations might have been off.
There are a couple providers here that I have been willing to help over the years. I don't regret it. It didn't turn into long running requests for help. They were all "one and done" kind of situations. I did it because someone needed help and in every case, they were a provider I clicked with for some period of time. I know in one case, I was kind of a last resort.
But never (never never) expect some in kind payback of discounted or free services. If it happens. Fine. If it doesn't. Fine. But when you get caught up thinking you have some kind of account balance, you'll always get burned.
As to the "never do another favor for a provider", that's totally up to you. I've found that sometimes the pay it forward game can have its benefits, especially when we're not talking high dollar or high time commitment things. I believe (although I don't have any proof) that when I see these ladies now I get better services, I get more flexibility on scheduling, and I get just that little extra. Can't prove it and it may all be in my mind but my experience tells me to listen, be careful, and don't get overcommitted.
Don't ever be a pushover and have the right expectations (as in "none") and you'll do fine.
Have a great day.
Dz.
There is one rule that I think is over all else. Be honest in your review. If that's what happened, then you should never back down from telling the truth and naming names, no matter how well established a provider is. Even if the provider has 100 stellar reviews, if your experience with her was bad, say so.
1 bad review doesn't ruin 100 good ones. But a succession of them could mean something different.
I had a not so pleasant experience with NattiGFE / Allison / Buttons / etc., who up to that point, had good reviews. But she was late (excusable because I allowed it), and when during the sessions I mentioned multi-pop, she said she didn't do that even though I paid for the whole her and her ad clearly states, "MSOG". When I told her it said so in her ad, she said that it was a mistake. She copied and pasted another provider's ad and she didn't mean to. Eventually, after I told her that I would have no problems kicking her out, she acquiesced. I wrote about, I was honest about it. It was one bad review, and I don't know if it was the catalyst that made her change, but her ads changed to remove the MSOG, then 1 week later, she advertises, "now offering MSOG".
Reviews are not just to alert other mongers of good / bad providers, but it could also be a warning / report card to providers. The smart ones will read their reviews and make adjustments. The ones that don't, well, they don't do as well.
I need to rant and rave for a min, but I would like to know if I am wrong in my view on this.
I am not going to put the provider on blast but she is a well regarded professional that has been around for awhile and I go way back with her. I received a text the middle of the week asking for help. They don't have a car and their foot was bothering them so they could walk to the closest gas station to put minutes on it. This was their text below.
"Well I need minutes or my phones going to be shut off and I'd even count it as a hh one day soon at your choosing please can you help me.".
So left my place went to a gas station for them at 11 pm, and sent them the pin so they could have the minutes. I am sure you see where this is going, when I go to collect today what I believe is a hhr they say that they ment they would take the amount I paid for the minutes off of their normal rate. I copy and pasted the same text I posted above and they said they can see why I thought what I did, but that's not what they MEANT, and it doesn't even make sense because their hhr rate is obviously much more, implying how could I possibly think that.
So this provider wanted me to get off my couch and go to the store and waste my time when I should have been going to bed and give them more business bc their would have been no discount just an amount off equal to what I spent for the min. While keeping their phone on allowing them to continue to make money while they sat at home. Their time is so valuable, why do the not value ours?
I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?
I still wouldn't pay even 1.0.I would and I did.
I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?The general rule, is do not hand out money or favors, unless they are merely a gift. It usually does not work out well if you expect anything else. The only person that can answer that for you is yourself. If the disconnect above ruined your ability to enjoy your time with her in the future, you should let her know and then carry through with not seeing her: say what you mean and mean what you say.
Remember there are always three sides to a hobby story: her side, his side, and what really happened. Eight times out of ten, when a hobbyist complains that they have been taken advantage of by a provider, when all sides of the story come out, you can often see where the whole mess could have been avoided with better communication or foresight. Just off what you gave us, you are not going to like my vote: you fucked up, you trusted her.
I need to rant and rave for a min, but I would like to know if I am wrong in my view on this.
I am not going to put the provider on blast but she is a well regarded professional that has been around for awhile and I go way back with her. I received a text the middle of the week asking for help. They don't have a car and their foot was bothering them so they could walk to the closest gas station to put minutes on it. This was their text below.
"Well I need minutes or my phones going to be shut off and I'd even count it as a hh one day soon at your choosing please can you help me.".
So left my place went to a gas station for them at 11 pm, and sent them the pin so they could have the minutes. I am sure you see where this is going, when I go to collect today what I believe is a hhr they say that they ment they would take the amount I paid for the minutes off of their normal rate. I copy and pasted the same text I posted above and they said they can see why I thought what I did, but that's not what they MEANT, and it doesn't even make sense because their hhr rate is obviously much more, implying how could I possibly think that.
So this provider wanted me to get off my couch and go to the store and waste my time when I should have been going to bed and give them more business bc their would have been no discount just an amount off equal to what I spent for the min. While keeping their phone on allowing them to continue to make money while they sat at home. Their time is so valuable, why do the not value ours?
I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?No you are not wrong, you should report it. I had a bad experience last January with a well known high class provider, I said what I needed to say, even though I got flax from others about how they could not believe this person could have done this, it still is what it is and it happened. It does happen in this hobby.
Glock, buddy. Your pictures are fine and all, but you should look at the girls face when choosing a photo. In this photo, Lexi looks like she's either mentally handicapped, or very drunk, or a bit of both.I rather liked the look on her face. But keep in mind that it may be difficult to grin when you have six inches of dildo shoved up your giner. Here is another shot taken just minutes before, minus the dildo.
I need to rant and rave for a min, but I would like to know if I am wrong in my view on this.
I am not going to put the provider on blast but she is a well regarded professional that has been around for awhile and I go way back with her. I received a text the middle of the week asking for help. They don't have a car and their foot was bothering them so they could walk to the closest gas station to put minutes on it. This was their text below.
"Well I need minutes or my phones going to be shut off and I'd even count it as a hh one day soon at your choosing please can you help me.".
So left my place went to a gas station for them at 11 pm, and sent them the pin so they could have the minutes. I am sure you see where this is going, when I go to collect today what I believe is a hhr they say that they ment they would take the amount I paid for the minutes off of their normal rate. I copy and pasted the same text I posted above and they said they can see why I thought what I did, but that's not what they MEANT, and it doesn't even make sense because their hhr rate is obviously much more, implying how could I possibly think that.
So this provider wanted me to get off my couch and go to the store and waste my time when I should have been going to bed and give them more business bc their would have been no discount just an amount off equal to what I spent for the min. While keeping their phone on allowing them to continue to make money while they sat at home. Their time is so valuable, why do the not value ours?
I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?Out of line? Well, I suppose not. But I actually think you made out pretty well, considering. Like many here, I've been there and done that many times. Phone minutes, rent money, grocery money for kids, car payment, you name it. The offer is usually similar to your experience.
When I help I am always hopeful, but I never really expect it to be repaid. So before you act, decide this: "Is this someone I'd like to do a favor for?" If so, then help and don't expect to get it back. Just do it as a favor and it is more likely to come back to you than if you really expect it to. I have made some great friends in this way. And had some really awesome "clock off" dates.
This issue has been discussed on the boards for years, and I think the replies usually fall into two categories -- "Don't ever help" and "Help, but don't expect to get it back.".
I don't think I have ever asked a lady to see me for free because I've helped her out. But I have booked a follow-up date, brought a good bottle of wine, and enjoyed her company for a lot more than 30 or 60 minutes. Is it equal or fair? Perhaps not. But if it is someone you really enjoy spending time with, then I think you will make out pretty well.
Be gracious with the lady. See her on her terms. And give her the opportunity to show you that she really is appreciative. Just my two cents worth, as always.
There is one rule that I think is over all else. Be honest in your review. If that's what happened, then you should never back down from telling the truth and naming names, no matter how well established a provider is. Even if the provider has 100 stellar reviews, if your experience with her was bad, say so.
1 bad review doesn't ruin 100 good ones. But a succession of them could mean something different.
I had a not so pleasant experience with NattiGFE / Allison / Buttons / etc., who up to that point, had good reviews. But she was late (excusable because I allowed it), and when during the sessions I mentioned multi-pop, she said she didn't do that even though I paid for the whole her and her ad clearly states, "MSOG". When I told her it said so in her ad, she said that it was a mistake. She copied and pasted another provider's ad and she didn't mean to. Eventually, after I told her that I would have no problems kicking her out, she acquiesced. I wrote about, I was honest about it. It was one bad review, and I don't know if it was the catalyst that made her change, but her ads changed to remove the MSOG, then 1 week later, she advertises, "now offering MSOG".
Reviews are not just to alert other mongers of good / bad providers, but it could also be a warning / report card to providers. The smart ones will read their reviews and make adjustments. The ones that don't, well, they don't do as well.DNutt, I agree 100%.
Per hobby custom a review is supposed to be the guy's experience from his point of view. That is a one-sided standard as it has to be. The reviewer's history on other matters affords the rest of us a yardstick to asses the weight that should be given the review. DNut gave us a review of his experience.
What is going on? If a provider wants to see only financially stable white guys what's the big deal? Maybe they believe if they go black they won't go back LOL. As far as high volume rates vs. Low volume rates, if I was on that side of the fence I'd rather see 1 or 2 a week rather then 5 a day, yuke that even sounds gross. I know some of us can afford to see 3 Ladies a week at 150 but balk at one for 300 hmmm. Now does advertising in this arena bruise the ego? Maybe, its kinda like a car salesman trying to sell a Bugatti in the projects, LOL. I know where I from, they keep the rent in the apt. Complexes high, so they only attract a certain client, no section 8 that kind of thing. As far as the racial component, this is America don't forget. If you have a couple bad experiances with black men well, its because there black, and you write off all black men. If you have a bad experiance with a couple white men well, its because they were jerks, so just screen better and ask for references. I'm just saying, All kidding aside, the good thing about this hobby is there is just about someone for everyones price point. What would you charge to let someone do to you what you ask these Ladies to do? I'm just saying. Just choose wisely and treat kindly.
I need to rant and rave for a min, but I would like to know if I am wrong in my view on this.
I am not going to put the provider on blast but she is a well regarded professional that has been around for awhile and I go way back with her. I received a text the middle of the week asking for help. They don't have a car and their foot was bothering them so they could walk to the closest gas station to put minutes on it. This was their text below.
"Well I need minutes or my phones going to be shut off and I'd even count it as a hh one day soon at your choosing please can you help me.".
So left my place went to a gas station for them at 11 pm, and sent them the pin so they could have the minutes. I am sure you see where this is going, when I go to collect today what I believe is a hhr they say that they ment they would take the amount I paid for the minutes off of their normal rate. I copy and pasted the same text I posted above and they said they can see why I thought what I did, but that's not what they MEANT, and it doesn't even make sense because their hhr rate is obviously much more, implying how could I possibly think that.
So this provider wanted me to get off my couch and go to the store and waste my time when I should have been going to bed and give them more business bc their would have been no discount just an amount off equal to what I spent for the min. While keeping their phone on allowing them to continue to make money while they sat at home. Their time is so valuable, why do the not value ours?
I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?What one must think about is are we "helping out" with the idea of making a gift from the goodness of our horny monger hearts? Or are we "helping out" with the idea of creating indebtedness that we expect to be repaid?
I've responded to many a call for help in the past. I learned quickly that I wasn't going to be repaid, either in money or time. I guess I can say that I always felt good anyway, just because I was lending a hand to a fellow human in need. However, I have drawn the line in several cases because I felt I was being taken advantage of. And even still, when I know I'm being scammed, I've bought food for a house where a kid was living. Just because I'm a dumbass.
Karma, what goes, comes.
Cheech.
TheDaytimer
03-02-14, 16:49
Golden Rule of Mongering. Do unto others, but don't expect them to do unto you.
Actually I've been in a similar situation and knew up front that the "help" I was providing was really going to be a gift. I figured I had the cash and she needed the cash so what the hell.. As long as I was sure she wasn't buying drugs with it.
I need to rant and rave for a min, but I would like to know if I am wrong in my view on this.
I am not going to put the provider on blast but she is a well regarded professional that has been around for awhile and I go way back with her. I received a text the middle of the week asking for help. They don't have a car and their foot was bothering them so they could walk to the closest gas station to put minutes on it. This was their text below.
"Well I need minutes or my phones going to be shut off and I'd even count it as a hh one day soon at your choosing please can you help me.".
So left my place went to a gas station for them at 11 pm, and sent them the pin so they could have the minutes. I am sure you see where this is going, when I go to collect today what I believe is a hhr they say that they ment they would take the amount I paid for the minutes off of their normal rate. I copy and pasted the same text I posted above and they said they can see why I thought what I did, but that's not what they MEANT, and it doesn't even make sense because their hhr rate is obviously much more, implying how could I possibly think that.
So this provider wanted me to get off my couch and go to the store and waste my time when I should have been going to bed and give them more business bc their would have been no discount just an amount off equal to what I spent for the min. While keeping their phone on allowing them to continue to make money while they sat at home. Their time is so valuable, why do the not value ours?
I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?
Golden Rule of Mongering. Do unto others, but don't expect them to do unto you.I think in summary this is the lesson to be learned. The time or money isn't really the issue they were minimal I was frustrated they did not keep their word and I think clearly I need to reduce my expectations to none, if there is a benefit great but I should plan on there being none even if one is stated. Thanks again all.
Member #4506
03-02-14, 17:27
Well I appreciate your southern hospitality. I got my glasses on and that gal looks pretty good.
Thanks for sending some food for thought.
Is in the fact that you can feel good about helping someone, even if they've gotten themselves into a problem because of their own (insert reason). Its like putting a few coins in the kettle at Christmas. And, in this case, you might even get to see some good come of your help.
Cheech.
Agreed on the below. However, despite my natural do-good-ness, I have found over the few months that I've been a-mongering that a number of these women are in many ways choosing their destiny. I have offered to help the few who have expressed a supposed interest in getting a "normal" job with their resumes, etc., etc. However, when push came to shove, it almost feels like they want to be doing what they're doing, despite the squalor and uncertainty and hopelessness of it all. "Oh, I left my resume on a friend's computer" or "I can't find the flash drive." Not to get into a deep philosophical discussion or anything, but a guy has to wonder sometimes.
I have found myself increasingly reticent to offer much beyond the standard donation. Don't want to get jaded but it just seems more realistic.
Is in the fact that you can feel good about helping someone, even if they've gotten themselves into a problem because of their own (insert reason). Its like putting a few coins in the kettle at Christmas. And, in this case, you might even get to see some good come of your help.
Cheech.
Is in the fact that you can feel good about helping someone, even if they've gotten themselves into a problem because of their own (insert reason). Its like putting a few coins in the kettle at Christmas. And, in this case, you might even get to see some good come of your help.
Cheech.House and clothe someone in need Buying a phone card is not the answer in exchange for a half hour POA. Wrong example my friend. These women in general have extreme difficulty managing funds but at least they have a roof over their heads even if they have an air mattress or a blanket on the floor Kettle money can provide three squares a day a place to sleep, toiletries, possibly some used donated clothing and you don't have to go out at 11 pm at night to buy it. You work hard for your money my friend. If you are going to spend it, give it to missions, SA, or another worthy cause but not for phone minutes. Some of the ladies on here even collect money at the holidays for childrens gifts, poor people down on their luck who need help, but doubt any of them give another provider a phone card because they can't managing money. Again I applaud your willingness to be kind and help out a provider in need, but much better ways of giving in the spirit of the holiday and kindness than buying phone minutes for a lady who can't manage her money or make enough to subsidize her lifestyle. JMO and no offense meant.
I still wouldn't pay even 1.0.My friend and partner has the right to spend on a young lady what ever he feels is fair. Yes he has the m money to pay whatever and he has. He can run with the big dogs so those of you who can't stay on the porch. My 02.
Somebody started a thread (years ago, I didn't know it was there) for "a place where providers can tell their side of the story." I deleted it for two reasons; They can do that here.The purpose of the forum is to "provide a place for men to talk about women for sex" nowhere in there does it say we will provide "a place for women to talk about the men who talk about them."It's not what we do, we aren't interested in doing it. This is a locker room, we aren't interested in equal access and we don't have to be.
Some chicks tell me this is unfair because they don't get to tell their side of the story. My response is always the same; "If you're good at what you do, you won't have to. Your satisfied customers will do it for you." Behind ads posted in the review threads, the next most common shit I have to deal with on the forum is providers quoting some guys review of them and then starting off with "First of all" or "Let me tell you something." Immediately I throw the Completely Pointless Drama flag. Why? Because it's pointless drama, if you're good at what you do your positive reviews will outweigh your negatives 20-1. I have absolutely zero desire to encourage this behavior in anyway. Hence; I deleted the thread.
Ladies, note this is written in blue, you may respond to it if you wish, but you will be talking to the mod with the godlike presence on the forum, not the guy with a tolerant sense of humor. Speak your mind if you wish, but do it civilly and no finger wagging.
A2
Golden Rule of Mongering. Do unto others, but don't expect them to do unto you.
Actually I've been in a similar situation and knew up front that the "help" I was providing was really going to be a gift. I figured I had the cash and she needed the cash so what the hell.. As long as I was sure she wasn't buying drugs with it.I agree. I help my ATF out every now and then when she needs Help. I paid her Rent back in October and I took her Christmas Shopping. She's such a Sweetheart how can I say No to her?
I agree. I help my ATF out every now and then when she needs Help. I paid her Rent back in October and I took her Christmas Shopping. She's such a Sweetheart how can I say No to her?I got a girl I'm kinda sweet on here. To the point that I don't see her professionally anymore, (P4 P and emotional involvement is BAAAADDDD JUJU) we have become friends in a limited sense. She wanted to borrow some money the other day for a business deal that overall I support the idea but her plan sucked and was doomed to failure. I showed her how to make a business plan, and told her when she came back to have a plan, and offered to match her dollar for dollar (peso for peso actually) as a long term loan up to an amount I feel comfortable with. I don't want her thinking she can come to me and get bailed out. I want her thinking that I'm willing to help, but I'm not a money well. I'm aware that I might not get the money back if I make the loan and am ok with that.
MisforMaster
03-03-14, 06:11
So left my place went to a gas station for them at 11 pm, and sent them the pin so they could have the minutes. I am sure you see where this is going, when I go to collect today what I believe is a hhr they say that they ment they would take the amount I paid for the minutes off of their normal rate. I copy and pasted the same text I posted above and they said they can see why I thought what I did, but that's not what they MEANT, and it doesn't even make sense because their hhr rate is obviously much more, implying how could I possibly think that.
Seriously, in that type of situation, I always get clarification. I'll generally text / call them back to make sure we're both on the same page -- what I'm hearing from her versus what she's telling me. Most of the time, I'm right. A few times, I've been wrong.
So this provider wanted me to get off my couch and go to the store and waste my time when I should have been going to bed and give them more business bc their would have been no discount just an amount off equal to what I spent for the min. While keeping their phone on allowing them to continue to make money while they sat at home. Their time is so valuable, why do the not value ours?
...we're in the octagon here, so, allow me to be myself for a few minutes.
The girls who think that their time is so valuable, and that they're $DEITY's greatest gift to $BODY_PART are the girls that I specifically stay away from. You can ask some of the providers who know me -- I'll openly tell them that my schedule can be very dynamic, and while it's great to find a time when the stars align where we can see each other at the right time all of the time, there will be times where I'm late, or you're late. I'm not an unreasonable person -- however, if you're more than 15 minutes late and you don't call, I won't answer the door. Period. End of Story. I've *never* had an issue with this policy, and I've had to blacklist providers because of this. I'm up front, honest, and forthright with you, and I expect nothing but the same in return.
I am ready to write this provider off permanently and never do another favor for a provider again, so I ask again am I out of line?That's what I would be doing in that situation. Write her off.
Member #5260
03-03-14, 08:45
I agree. I help my ATF out every now and then when she needs Help. I paid her Rent back in October and I took her Christmas Shopping. She's such a Sweetheart how can I say No to her?Are you dating her?
Member #5083
03-03-14, 09:28
My friend and partner has the right to spend on a young lady what ever he feels is fair. Yes he has the m money to pay whatever and he has. He can run with the big dogs so those of you who can't stay on the porch. My 02.
Sorry, I thought this section encouraged Rants, Raves & OPINIONS? I was saying, IMO, I wouldn't do her for 1.0. Maybe a .75 BBBJ? IMO, most big dogs would have better taste than her? IMO, the providers I spent 3.0-7.0 on where of much higher quality than the subject one.
Sorry, I thought this section encouraged Rants, Raves & OPINIONS? I was saying, IMO, I wouldn't do her for 1.0. Maybe a .75 BBBJ? IMO, most big dogs would have better taste than her? IMO, the providers I spent 3.0-7.0 on where of much higher quality than the subject one.Who are you talking about, the girl Lexi that I posted a photo of or LilaBella. No one said anything about spending 3.0 to 7.0 on Lexi. BC and I took it you were referring to Lexi.
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