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I just saw this ad on STG. Meditation Station is posting under escorts and lists a full menu of activities at the bottom of the ad. I've noticed that Star, a young AA massage provider there, has been posting ads for FS "King's treatment" in the escort section lately, but this ad looks to be for the whole place / all the girls. I've never been to Meditation Station because of all the negative reviews on here, but I have to admit, I've been tempted to see Star, because she looks really hot in her photos (and of course they always look like the photos in their ads, right? But it seems like something has changed at Meditation Station--as in, this ad seems imply that all girls are offering FS there. Anybody been lately or planning to go this weekend?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/cruise-your-way-over-to-enjoy-/360383946896I took one for the team, the first one to review them after they opened.
Posted a picture of the building with an odd location attached to another business with shared parking.
I saw Raven, massage was lame so I didn't bother with the extras. She gave me the full menu prices and I passed on her taking her top off.
As I was leaving the owner (young AA girl) confirmed all FS and prices. I did not repeat and don't plan too.
Recently reports of dirty place, it was fresh when I went because it just opened. I would definitely believe other posters saying they need fresh sheets.
I don't know about anyone else but I try and avoid (don't hide or sneak) seeing other dudes while going in or out of any establishment, now this guy is "hanging out" Outside? Guess he is seeing the comings and goings of customers, not cool.I do not sit there and check out other guys coming and going. I do look around for my own safety and make nothing is out if sorts before going in. If I'm going in and the girls ate outside ill stop by for a few and chat and go to my appointment. Sorry if it was taken the wrong way.
On 28th st west of Breton. Went first to Pacific on 28th wanting to see Heidi for the first time but she was not working so went to Relax. 10:30 on Sat morning and no customers. Jessie was up so I went with her to the room. I have not been here since sometime last year as the girls are sent packing after a couple months so even when a good one pops up she is gone too soon.
Jesssie's English is fairly good. She sprinkles her therapeutic work with light sensual teasing right from the beginning, just what I like. She was also willing to do some butt play to keep me happy.
Upon the flip, I got my hands under her shirt to lift up her bra and have some fun. Really has a nice rack. Apparently she really gets into this as she asked if I wanted to change places. You bet I do. She laid down on the table and I was rubbing away to my heart's content, but she would not let me use my mouth on her titties. I was surprised how long she let me play, far longer than other therapists, but she was really turned on, so much so that she finally told me to use my mouth on her breast. Will do, chief. So I had one in my mouth and one in my hand and continued for a lot longer. She claimed to cum, don't know if it was true but we both enjoyed the time. She gave a nice slow ending and I was out of there. I would like to see her again but as stated, she may not be there when I go back in a month.
1 hr /60 tip /70.
Pancea is on awestruck River Drive which is really close to Apline depending on what way you take. I would recommend Ava.Anyone get offered FS at Paneca.
I saw Joy again recently at Tuina. I had only seen her once before and it has been several months. She acted like she remembered me and even commented that it had been several months since I had been in. I'm sure it's part of the act, but still a nice gesture. I had a good time with her before. That time I was a walk-in and she said she was only able to do half an hour, though it wound up being about 45 minutes. This time I called ahead and made a 1 hour appointment for about half an hour after I called. They never seem to be very busy there so I didn't think I needed to call much ahead. When I got there, she looked nice. She wasn't at all fat when I saw her before, but I think she was maybe carrying a bit of winter weight then because she seemed a little thinner now and it suits her. Before she was wearing what seems to be almost the AMP uniform at many of these places--a t-shirt and yoga pants or something similar. But at my most recent visit, she had on a loose fitting top and a mini-skirt. I only comment on this because it definitely facilitated roaming. I was able to get under the skirt though she did have some shorts on underneath it. I did get a bit inside the shorts for some nice ass rubbing, but no FIV. She lifted up her shirt and bra and she has a really nice rack. I'd say the majority of AMP providers I've seen have small to medium sized boobs. Hers aren't huge, but larger than some and very nice. She did let me suck on them briefly this time (before I was just able to fondle them). She's very playful and flirtatious. Even when I was facedown she would gently play with the back of my nut sack, which definitely got the motor running so to speak. She gives a really good HJ--but from what I can tell, only an HJ and nothing more. Still, that's what I was expecting so a really nice experience. The only negative I can report is that after the flip and some playful teasing, she brings up the tip. She did this when I saw her before too. I guess from a business standpoint this is smart. Guys will feel very generous when their dick is in your hand but they are far from fully satisfied at that point. But I only took in with me what I planned to give, so I knew what my "donation" was going to be. Maybe she was burned by cheap mongers in the past who thought the ending was included with the door fee. Who knows? Still, it's nice, in my opinion, when the total damage is established and known beforehand, such as at BBU or Hunter's Den, or it's not brought up until after the fun. I think the door feed had gone up since my last visit. 1 hour was $65 recently and I think $60 before. So. 65 door fee and I tipped. 80. Like I said, they never seem to have very many customers so I thought I'd tip a bit more than just matching the door fee. As always, YMMV, but if you like AMPs, only want a HE, and enjoy a fun, playful, and fairly attractive Asian provider, then Joy is worth seeing.
Anyone get offered FS at Paneca.No. Not there.
StillSeek BJ
08-29-22, 17:27
So I found myself on the Westside of Michigan last week and had some time to kill. I called Pancea first to see how busy they were. I have had better luck that way versus being rushed. I got Melissa "I think" memory is not so good sometimes. Pretty late 20's early 30's blonde with a very nice pair. Very good light massage and slow teasing finish. I would definitely repeat if the opportunity arises. Not a FS place but I still enjoy the place. Discrete parking as well. I will add that I could still feel and smell the massage oil after she wiped me off front and back so be aware if you have an SO to go home too. I walked out down about $50 for the door and $60 tip for a half hour. I was very happy with that although later at the store I was thinking I could have bought T bones for the dog and myself all weekend if I hadn't stopped there. LOL the dog will get over it.
Stay safe out there.
Love The Lips
08-29-22, 22:43
So I found myself on the Westside of Michigan last week and had some time to kill. I called Pancea first to see how busy they were. I have had better luck that way versus being rushed. I got Melissa "I think" memory is not so good sometimes. Pretty late 20's early 30's blonde with a very nice pair. Very good light massage and slow teasing finish. I would definitely repeat if the opportunity arises. Not a FS place but I still enjoy the place. Discrete parking as well. I will add that I could still feel and smell the massage oil after she wiped me off front and back so be aware if you have an SO to go home too. I walked out down about $50 for the door and $60 tip for a half hour. I was very happy with that although later at the store I was thinking I could have bought T bones for the dog and myself all weekend if I hadn't stopped there. LOL the dog will get over it.
Stay safe out there.How comfortable did she get? I haven't been there in awhile since all the reports of the girls wanting more and more but doing less and less. I miss the days when almost all the girls would do face sitting / daty and really enjoyed it.
Member #6623
08-30-22, 01:59
Saw cassidy this last Friday and as usual.
The time was well spent!
Great massage and ending was on point!
After i left i did notice a car that seemed to follow me... i took 4 rights and next thing i know hes wroting something on a paper.
Light turned green and i was able to go and he wasnt following anymore.
Thought it was weord could be coincidence
Stay safe fellas
Not sure if I love the convos the massage or her chest more.
Moonglow913
08-30-22, 08:57
Saw cassidy this last Friday and as usual.
The time was well spent!
Great massage and ending was on point!
After i left i did notice a car that seemed to follow me... i took 4 rights and next thing i know hes wroting something on a paper.
Light turned green and i was able to go and he wasnt following anymore.
Thought it was weord could be coincidence
Stay safe fellas
Not sure if I love the convos the massage or her chest more.There have been similar reports about BBU. Please guys if you ever get pulled over remember there is nothing they can do. Say and most importantly admit nothing. But if true, WTF?
Saw cassidy this last Friday and as usual.
The time was well spent!
Great massage and ending was on point!
After i left i did notice a car that seemed to follow me... i took 4 rights and next thing i know hes wroting something on a paper.
Light turned green and i was able to go and he wasnt following anymore.
Thought it was weord could be coincidence
Stay safe fellas
Not sure if I love the convos the massage or her chest more.Thank you for the review. I think. LOL. But I think you're confusing Cassidys I know there is another one and sometimes that gets confusing. I am certain I didn't see you Friday. I just want to make sure the right girl gets the review.
Stroker417
08-30-22, 10:59
Thank you for the review. I think. LOL. But I think you're confusing Cassidys I know there is another one and sometimes that gets confusing. I am certain I didn't see you Friday. I just want to make sure the right girl gets the review.In his original post The heading said Cassidy James so I'm not sure where the confusion lies.
In his original post The heading said Cassidy James so I'm not sure where the confusion lies.The confusion lies in that he said he saw her "last Friday" and she just said she didn't work last Friday so she's not sure he's talking about her. He did say he saw a Cassidy with an incredible chest though and that definitely describes them twins.
Member #6623
08-30-22, 19:21
The confusion lies in that he said he saw her "last Friday" and she just said she didn't work last Friday so she's not sure he's talking about her. He did say he saw a Cassidy with an incredible chest though and that definitely describes them twins.My bad I should have said this past Friday as in the Friday from 4 days ago.
GRBikeMike
08-31-22, 08:26
I got to meet Milan recently, and wow, the real deal. A true beauty. Good massage technique, nice conversation. Paid $80 for the hour and tipped $100. Definitely will repeat.
StillSeek BJ
08-31-22, 08:37
How comfortable did she get? I haven't been there in awhile since all the reports of the girls wanting more and more but doing less and less. I miss the days when almost all the girls would do face sitting / daty and really enjoyed it.I am not a consistent visitor to Pancea. I may not stop there for a year or more. I have never had a girl remove her bottoms but I have never got the same lady twice. I have never had anything like that happen to me there not that I would complain LOL.
I feel it is a good stop for the west side of the state for those who have less flexible schedules and like safe areas.
The east side of the state has great places for hobby opportunities but the neighborhoods are sketchy and I would not go after dark.
FastHustler
08-31-22, 09:57
I saw Joy a few weeks ago. I was a walk-in on a Tuesday as far as I could tell she was the only one there. She is amazing at teasing you she started right away on my ass and balls through-out the whole massage so when we flipped she askes about the tip so I hand her $60 and she says more, more I will make you really happy! So I give her $80 and she still wants more she is looking into my wallet and I had a $50 hidden and I told her that was all I have. Just a normal HE with the top off her tits are smaller but they are Perfect! Next time if I go again, I hate when they ask for the tip up front! I will only bring $60 for the tip. The door fee is $65 there. I will probably keep going to relax. They never ask for a tip up front and I have been there at least 6 times in the last few months and every time it was great! Everyone so far let me play up top and they all like to tease your ass and balls through out the massage. There its 60/60 only thing I don't like is they never give you a name. I have seen a few there 2 times but usually someone new once I had a 20 something for 10 minutes then she swapped out with another girl I was kinda bummed but the new girl did a great massage and great HE so it was all good in the end.
I saw Joy a few weeks ago. I was a walk-in on a Tuesday as far as I could tell she was the only one there. She is amazing at teasing you she started right away on my ass and balls through-out the whole massage so when we flipped she askes about the tip so I hand her $60 and she says more, more I will make you really happy! So I give her $80 and she still wants more she is looking into my wallet and I had a $50 hidden and I told her that was all I have. Just a normal HE with the top off her tits are smaller but they are Perfect! Next time if I go again, I hate when they ask for the tip up front! I will only bring $60 for the tip. The door fee is $65 there. I will probably keep going to relax. They never ask for a tip up front and I have been there at least 6 times in the last few months and every time it was great! Everyone so far let me play up top and they all like to tease your ass and balls through out the massage. There its 60/60 only thing I don't like is they never give you a name. I have seen a few there 2 times but usually someone new once I had a 20 something for 10 minutes then she swapped out with another girl I was kinda bummed but the new girl did a great massage and great HE so it was all good in the end.Introduce yourself and ask what the therapist's name is.
I've been remiss in not posting recently, so here goes.
Saje. I've seen Saje 2 or 3 times in the last couple months. She is as beautiful and nice as all previous reports. Saje is easy to speak to and as sensuous as anyone I've ever seen. The massage was light and teasing, all while having intelligent conversation. She is young, tall and built just the way I like. The flip was incredible and she lead the way to fireworks with constant eye contact. I'll definitely continue to book Saje when I can fit into her schedule.
Ceclilia. I saw Cecilia for the first time today. WOW! That pretty much sums up what my mind and body saw and felt during my time with her. She is on par with Saje in terms of her personality and body. I will be seeing her again soon. Every second spent with her was positive. Again, super easy to talk to during all phases of our time together.
I've seen about 6 of Brit's girls (and Brit), and each one is as good or better than the last. I can't imagine spending my hobby money anywhere else ever again.
Happy hunting.
I saw Joy a few weeks ago. I was a walk-in on a Tuesday as far as I could tell she was the only one there. She is amazing at teasing you she started right away on my ass and balls through-out the whole massage so when we flipped she askes about the tip so I hand her $60 and she says more, more I will make you really happy! So I give her $80 and she still wants more she is looking into my wallet and I had a $50 hidden and I told her that was all I have. Just a normal HE with the top off her tits are smaller but they are Perfect! Next time if I go again, I hate when they ask for the tip up front! I will only bring $60 for the tip. The door fee is $65 there. I will probably keep going to relax. They never ask for a tip up front and I have been there at least 6 times in the last few months and every time it was great! Everyone so far let me play up top and they all like to tease your ass and balls through out the massage. There its 60/60 only thing I don't like is they never give you a name. I have seen a few there 2 times but usually someone new once I had a 20 something for 10 minutes then she swapped out with another girl I was kinda bummed but the new girl did a great massage and great HE so it was all good in the end.Hey FH, sorry if your experience at Tuina was somewhat negative. As I said in my last review, I'm not a fan of how she handles the tip. That's really my only complaint with her. I think it's much better to either know the rate up front, as a couple of other places do, or if they wait until the fun is over. I never, ever take my wallet in with me--too much personal info. I try to only take in what I'm willing to spend and maybe stash some extra in another discreet pocket in case extras are offered. So when she brought up the tip with me, I just told her which pocket it was in and she got it. She's didn't go looking anywhere else with me. I think the first time I saw her she did say something like, "the more you tip, the happier I'll make you," but that was before I gave her the tip. Once I gave it to her, she took and went to work and didn't try to get me to tip more. At my most recent visit, just to test the limits, I brought up the prospect of me tipping more if she did more and she said "No, just hands. " She was playful about it and we had fun, but at least with me, I felt like a very fun, playful HE was all I was going to get. But as we always say, YMMV. To me, she's worth seeing again at some point, but I definitely think it's a good idea with her and just about everywhere else to only take in what you're willing to spend.
I've seen Joy at Tui Na dozens of times. The only time she talked about the tip was the 1st time I saw her. I told her she would be happy if I was happy. If you're a regular of hers she shouldn't be bothering you every time about the tip!
If you give her your hobby phone number, she'll text when she's running low on customers! She has amazing breasts and handles the cock well. She also gives a good hard pressure massage and back walking.
NJ.
BashTheJohnson
09-01-22, 08:58
Had some time yesterday so I ventured to Serinity. I haven't been there in a long time, and they advertise new girls. Did a walk in and got Josie. She is nice, young with a cheerleader body. She came in the room, induced herself and got comfortable right away. I got down on the table face down and she started on my legs and asked about the pressure I would like. A little Tease before the flip. Some roaming on her but no FIV, DATY or sucking on breast, something about saliva, but will let you play with them. They are nice perky hand Fulls. She had a nice grip on the rod to get me off. She did not up sell about the tip, but I think she saw the couple of Grants I had under my phone. She did say she had just started a month ago. So, is not sure about doing FS yet. I think over time she could be into more with the right person asking her. We will have to see.
It seems as though all the ads are down. Hunter even pulled her ad on Tryst. Who / what is the new best place for a rub down?
DorianGray907
09-01-22, 12:10
It seems as though all the ads are down. Hunter even pulled her ad on Tryst. Who / what is the new best place for a rub down?I just looked and found hunter Phoenix and three bbu ladies. Did I kiss something?
Moonglow913
09-01-22, 12:10
It seems as though all the ads are down. Hunter even pulled her ad on Tryst. Who / what is the new best place for a rub down?That's disappointing. Anyone know what's going on.
While I can't confirm this guy's specific story as I don't know him, I can confirm that BBU is under investigation. Customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives in unmarked cars for the purpose of gathering evidence.What reason do they give for pulling you over? Can they just randomly pull someone over just for leaving Bodyworks? Also if you know, what questions do they ask? I'm sure a lot of guys besides me might have these same questions, any insight you or anyone else can provide would be most helpful.
What reason do they give for pulling you over? Can they just randomly pull someone over just for leaving Bodyworks? Also if you know, what questions do they ask? I'm sure a lot of guys besides me might have these same questions, any insight you or anyone else can provide would be most helpful.This just does not seem correct. They cannot pull anyone without any reasonable cause. Stopping the girls while driving would not prove any crime committed. It would only be the interaction of the masseuse and customer. I think its more of a scare tactic than a true situation. Too much jealousy from a wife or a past employee.
What reason do they give for pulling you over? Can they just randomly pull someone over just for leaving Bodyworks? Also if you know, what questions do they ask? I'm sure a lot of guys besides me might have these same questions, any insight you or anyone else can provide would be most helpful.Not there business what your doing there.
Not there business what your doing there.Well said!
Hollywood55
09-01-22, 20:56
I got to meet Milan recently, and wow, the real deal. A true beauty. Good massage technique, nice conversation. Paid $80 for the hour and tipped $100. Definitely will repeat.Hey! Thank you so much, I look forward to seeing you again!
This just does not seem correct. They cannot pull anyone without any reasonable cause. Stopping the girls while driving would not prove any crime committed. It would only be the interaction of the masseuse and customer. I think its more of a scare tactic than a true situation. Too much jealousy from a wife or a past employee.They can pull you over and Will.
If you keep driving they will arrest you.
This tactic reminds me of the Wayland sting. FBI, state and local LE made a bust based on a complaint and they started to investigate. They watched the house and radio to another LE car what to look for. Pulled them over down the road so Wayland house couldn't see the lights. Visually searched through windows and let most of them go after getting all their information.
That's how they started that investigation.
Most senior members new the onwer of the house. I warned him of this investigation and he told me to mind my own fucking business. He's in prison now.
They can pull you over and Will.
If you keep driving they will arrest you.
This tactic reminds me of the Wayland sting. FBI, state and local LE made a bust based on a complaint and they started to investigate. They watched the house and radio to another LE car what to look for. Pulled them over down the road so Wayland house couldn't see the lights. Visually searched through windows and let most of them go after getting all their information.
That's how they started that investigation.
Most senior members new the onwer of the house. I warned him of this investigation and he told me to mind my own fucking business. He's in prison now.I have been pulled over after seeing a provider. All you have to say is "I am exercising my right to remain silent. " They can't do anything after that. If they arrest you they violated your rights and they lose their qualified immunity. Keep that in mind.
Hey all,
First time posting on here and I took some recommendations as I'm going pretty new to the hobby. Took a chance on Joy since some have left both positive and negative reviews of her.
But I wanted to add to the positives since she was a great time. Called over the phone and setup an appointment for 45 minutes after I called. When I got there parking was easy, building discreet, and upon entry everything was clean and she was happily waiting for me. She immediately caught on to why I was there and didn't make it nerve wracking or weird, started flirting instantaneously and commented on how well I smelled (good hygiene is a must as far as I've gathered here fellas).
Anyway, she left me to undress, and once she came back in she got right to business. Nice bit of teasing around my nether regions and got me to flip over at the very beginning. She did bring up the tip, but not in an aggressive or imposing way. Just mentioned that she could help my friend and I if we paid enough. Gave her $80 as I'd seen someone else do right off the bat and she was pretty giddy. It was cute to be honest. Service was decent, nothing to write home about, but she let me roam pretty far on her tits, ass, and even between her legs. Everything under the waist was over clothes, but she let me see and touch her breasts pretty liberally (Great tits as most have stated as well). After release, she cleaned me up and told me to flip back onto my stomach to finish up massage. That was also decent, but not exhilarating or life changing by any means. Spent a lot of time on my legs and butt, which I appreciated and enjoyed.
All in all I would give Joy at Tuina a solid 7/10. Not the best time of your life, but far from the worst. I'm glad I took the chance and she was so nice and welcoming I'd be lying if I said I wasn't planning on going again. Her smile is contagious and she kept using terms of endearment on me and made me feel welcome. Probably all part of the act to get paid, but if that's the case I'm fine with her making good money from it. Don't skip out on her lads and give Joy a shot!
Anybody have recommendations for Asian MT's like Joy or younger that I should give a shot in the area? Let me know! I've read a lot of posts on here, but most MT's don't sound my speed yet as I'm mostly attracted to Asian women. Younger would be better, but hard to come by as I understand it. Would be intrigued to find AMP offering CBJ or BBBJ. Nothing more yet though, still new and don't want to get too far down the rabbit hole so soon.
TL; DR: $65 door fee / $80 tip was total damage. No indication of FS of any kind. Decent HJ. Decent Massage. Great bubbly personality. 7 out of 10.
Ekko.
It's been an interesting week for G2. As noted earlier I was approached in PM and then text by a highly reviewed massage provider who wanted to test waters for UTR. Interesting because I had never visited her nor reviewed her. But she was intrigued by my reviews and appreciated the loyalty I have for my favorite (her words). I know I get a lot of crap from some posters here who demean my attitude of connection appreciation. But I soldier on. And many PMs offer support for the artful essays I launch.
So this UTR and I decided to meet for dinner and drinks and discuss progress on the UTR front. As we hadn't met I arranged a reservation at an easily accessible place with anonymity and good food and drink. I arrived early and obtained the table. I told her where I was sitting and described my physical appearance and that I was wearing a suit and tie. She described herself in a very modest way. When she came into the establishment I was blown away. Tall, thin, makeup and nails done to perfection. Beautiful hair and the type of eyes that peer through your soul and can tell exactly what you are thinking! The slight hint of a small amount of perfume and tight jeans with a blouse that was appropriate for public dining, but screamed "there are goodies in here."
We dined and drank one drink each and just talked and got to know each other. Boys this was an intellectual and conversational orgasm I had over and over again. She laughed at the right times, smiled at others and shared some details about herself. She asked me questions that challenged me, made me think, made me contemplate. I was engaged the entire time. Her overall look was so compelling that I was glad I was in her presence. Seductive looking but not at all slutty. Almost business casual with the possibility of drinks alone later. Type of look.
She was so complimentary of me. My looks (I know I questioned her eyesight! My words. My listening to her. My voice quality. My eye contact. My gentle touch of her hand. All of this was noticed by her and appreciated. I wasn't sure where the evening would end but I knew now why others had rated her so highly and why UTR was going to work for her. She had captivated my interest. Not just physically, but mentally, and even emotionally. Maybe I should politely end the evening so I didn't expect too much. What should I do? What should I say? I wanted to stay in her presence but the meal was done and the check was paid. She must have sensed my hesitation and uncertainty.So she is now available. I'm out of state on work and she's making a few appointments available for those interested in seeing her. Highly rated and very attractive. Feel free to PM me for contact info. If you already have her contact info. Reach out now.
Enjoy.
I have been pulled over after seeing a provider. All you have to say is "I am exercising my right to remain silent. " They can't do anything after that. If they arrest you they violated your rights and they lose their qualified immunity. Keep that in mind.Since I don't go to the place in question, I have no worries.
All I was trying to make clear is the Wayland house investigation included pulling over the vehicles leaving that house. In the end two people went to prison, the owner of the house and his main lady.
I never went to the Wayland house either, maybe a sixth sense.
I was informed by multiple people to beware of going there.
I'm just sharing information of a past investigation.
I have been pulled over after seeing a provider. All you have to say is "I am exercising my right to remain silent. " They can't do anything after that. If they arrest you they violated your rights and they lose their qualified immunity. Keep that in mind.No matter what would scare the shit out of me to get pulled over and questioned. If you are married it would up the nerves factor exponentially. If you lie, and get caught in the lie, now you're looking at double trouble. If you clam up (the recommended thing to do) they may just let you go and you never hear from them again. Or they take your information and contact you later to follow up on their "investigation". If you are married I think just worrying you may be later dragged into the public eye of an investigation would make for some sleepless nights.
I still wonder what questions they ask you when you get pulled over. And what reason they give you for getting pulled over. In the 90's I was pulled over after going to an AMP in South Bend and they asked me if I'd gotten sexual services, I of course said no and that was the end of it. Never said why they pulled me over, I never asked cause I was so nervous. They asked the one question and sent me on my way. Always struck me as wrong that they could pull me over for no reason and attempt to get me to incriminate myself without cause.
Since I don't go to the place in question, I have no worries.
All I was trying to make clear is the Wayland house investigation included pulling over the vehicles leaving that house. In the end two people went to prison, the owner of the house and his main lady.
I never went to the Wayland house either, maybe a sixth sense.
I was informed by multiple people to beware of going there.
I'm just sharing information of a past investigation.No worries. After what has been going on I am just sharing some information so the cops can't do anything about it.
Member #6286
09-02-22, 09:22
Anyone seen either, they post on STG in the GR area. Visiting soon, I have been gone for a year, and would like to know before booking. One is blonde young with tats, and one is young brunette.
Also is Brit's place still around and good? Can you message me the latest photo of the talent there and link?
And who's worth a shot an Panacea these days? I can't seem to find photos and names.
LongAwaited493
09-02-22, 10:40
Since I don't go to the place in question, I have no worries.
All I was trying to make clear is the Wayland house investigation included pulling over the vehicles leaving that house. In the end two people went to prison, the owner of the house and his main lady.
I never went to the Wayland house either, maybe a sixth sense.
I was informed by multiple people to beware of going there.
I'm just sharing information of a past investigation.This is one of the reasons why I never went to this establishment. If this is all true and they've been shut down that means they have the video of all the folks that have come and gone at this establishment. That's got to be a little nerve-racking.
No matter what would scare the shit out of me to get pulled over and questioned. If you are married it would up the nerves factor exponentially. If you lie, and get caught in the lie, now you're looking at double trouble. If you clam up (the recommended thing to do) they may just let you go and you never hear from them again. Or they take your information and contact you later to follow up on their "investigation". If you are married I think just worrying you may be later dragged into the public eye of an investigation would make for some sleepless nights.
I still wonder what questions they ask you when you get pulled over. And what reason they give you for getting pulled over. In the 90's I was pulled over after going to an AMP in South Bend and they asked me if I'd gotten sexual services, I of course said no and that was the end of it. Never said why they pulled me over, I never asked cause I was so nervous. They asked the one question and sent me on my way. Always struck me as wrong that they could pull me over for no reason and attempt to get me to incriminate myself without cause.Why is anyone discussing this, they advertise massage, says massage on bld, people get massages everyday, mute discussion.
And say you do get pulled over "you got a massage" only reason a officer would pull over anyone is intimidation, scare away customers and biz goes away, but they are legally allowed to do their work as advertised.
That's all for now.
This is one of the reasons why I never went to this establishment. If this is all true and they've been shut down that means they have the video of all the folks that have come and gone at this establishment. That's got to be a little nerve-racking.The owner of the Wayland house was a creepy guy, had hidden cameras disguised as phone chargers all over the house and linked to his laptop.
Everyone who went there had videos of them fucking.
I knew it was trouble before I started getting the warning messages not to go there.
Who knows what surprises will pop up on the BBU database.
This is one of the reasons why I never went to this establishment. If this is all true and they've been shut down that means they have the video of all the folks that have come and gone at this establishment. That's got to be a little nerve-racking.This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.
I posted warnings when a provider was getting driver license from people. Some monger here got all butthurt about it. I and others posted warning that Hunters policy of getting face pics for verification was a bad idea for mongers only to have many here jump to her defence. Now she and bbu may be compromised. How are all you defenders feeling now? Instead of taking warnings for what they are, warnings some of you thought you were safe due to trusting your provider. In the end they will all give you up for a. Lighter sentence given the chance. Pray that offer isn't made.
I wish all of you well. Even the guys I argue with on the fight thread.
I hope you all end up unaffected.
And yes, I never went to that Wayland house either.small town like that it seemed obvious all that traffic would cause complaints and then LE eventually.
This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.
I posted warnings when a provider was getting driver license from people. Some monger here got all butthurt about it. I and others posted warning that Hunters policy of getting face pics for verification was a bad idea for mongers only to have many here jump to her defence. Now she and bbu may be compromised. How are all you defenders feeling now? Instead of taking warnings for what they are, warnings some of you thought you were safe due to trusting your provider. In the end they will all give you up for a. Lighter sentence given the chance. Pray that offer isn't made.
I wish all of you well. Even the guys I argue with on the fight thread.
I hope you all end up unaffected.
And yes, I never went to that Wayland house either.small town like that it seemed obvious all that traffic would cause complaints and then LE eventually.Nobody was smarter than Tedbear, just ask him!
HangLow hero, for the few who listened!
I'll stick with my FaceBook UTRs.
Stay safe
LongAwaited493
09-02-22, 16:49
This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.
I posted warnings when a provider was getting driver license from people. Some monger here got all butthurt about it. I and others posted warning that Hunters policy of getting face pics for verification was a bad idea for mongers only to have many here jump to her defence. Now she and bbu may be compromised. How are all you defenders feeling now? Instead of taking warnings for what they are, warnings some of you thought you were safe due to trusting your provider. In the end they will all give you up for a. Lighter sentence given the chance. Pray that offer isn't made.
I wish all of you well. Even the guys I argue with on the fight thread.
I hope you all end up unaffected.
And yes, I never went to that Wayland house either.small town like that it seemed obvious all that traffic would cause complaints and then LE eventually.I agree with you 100% we're all here to help each other out. If that's a review good or bad or concerns that we might have with a particularly provider. We should all remember these ladies will give up whatever they need to stay out of jail and that should always be in the back of your mind while enjoying the hobby. As difficult as it may be sometimes we need to think with the Head on our shoulders and not the other. Be safe.
Nobody was smarter than Tedbear, just ask him!
HangLow hero, for the few who listened!
I'll stick with my FaceBook UTRs.
Stay safeBro,
Thanks for shout. But all I ben doing is sounding warning. Trying a help y'all. I seen this before in Texas. Now maybe it here. Pray boss lady erase video and records. Maybe white nights still on video and data. They all come at me but now they all silent. Hanglow even try an help boss lady but she no want to hear about police informant she have round her. Now maybe she don't be angry be smart. This worse then I thought. Is hanglow hero? Hell no. I am the walrus.
I usually don't defend myself because I don't care what other people think, but I am going to now.
I made an appointment to see Lauren coms good like always I walk in the door and Hunter throws me out! Because she thinks I am hanglow. Now I really don't care what she thinks but I have been nothing but nice to her. Today is my birthday I got done with work early so I thought I would give myself a present and see Lauren.
But then I get tossed still can't understand why hunter thinks it but what ever. It is sad that now the providers that work there are not able to see clients that they have a good reputation with because of what hunter thinks.
And this is to hanglow thanks for F'n up my birthday I really appreciate that!
I guess that's the end..https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/283735756302
Hey bro Youcon.
Is this the Lauren y'all wanted to see for birthday? Hanglow hope it ain't other Lauren that has Adam's apple.
Hanglow, sorry if y'all got booted because a me. I'm not wanting to cock, block yall. But what make Lauren special to yall? Ain't there other girls to see that as good, or better? If hanglow want to see her how get appointment with her? Youcon a good bro and need see good girls. Not cancel girls. Is hanglow sorry y'all got booted? Yes. I am sorry. I am the walrus.
Hey Ekko,
Well done. For a first review this is excellent. You contributed and covered important info, but didn't oversell. I like it and look forward to reading more posts from you. I can't offer much to answer your questions, but hopefully others can. For the combination of an actual massage with good BJ, based on those I've seen, I'd recommend Saisha at Royal Touch--but she's not Asian. They have Asian providers there, but they also have other providers there that will do HE (pretty sure all of them will), but not necessarily BJ. I've seen 3 providers there and gotten just HE from the other two besides Saisha. Saisha is a curvy Latina that, IMO, is quite attractive. I think when it comes to MPs, anywhere that offers BJ is going to be more expensive than what you tipped Joy and this is true of Saisha. But she's really good at what she does, again IMO. As we often say, YMMV.
Hey all,
First time posting on here and I took some recommendations as I'm going pretty new to the hobby. Took a chance on Joy since some have left both positive and negative reviews of her.
But I wanted to add to the positives since she was a great time. Called over the phone and setup an appointment for 45 minutes after I called. When I got there parking was easy, building discreet, and upon entry everything was clean and she was happily waiting for me. She immediately caught on to why I was there and didn't make it nerve wracking or weird, started flirting instantaneously and commented on how well I smelled (good hygiene is a must as far as I've gathered here fellas).
Anyway, she left me to undress, and once she came back in she got right to business. Nice bit of teasing around my nether regions and got me to flip over at the very beginning. She did bring up the tip, but not in an aggressive or imposing way. Just mentioned that she could help my friend and I if we paid enough. Gave her $80 as I'd seen someone else do right off the bat and she was pretty giddy. It was cute to be honest. Service was decent, nothing to write home about, but she let me roam pretty far on her tits, ass, and even between her legs. Everything under the waist was over clothes, but she let me see and touch her breasts pretty liberally (Great tits as most have stated as well). After release, she cleaned me up and told me to flip back onto my stomach to finish up massage. That was also decent, but not exhilarating or life changing by any means. Spent a lot of time on my legs and butt, which I appreciated and enjoyed.
All in all I would give Joy at Tuina a solid 7/10. Not the best time of your life, but far from the worst. I'm glad I took the chance and she was so nice and welcoming I'd be lying if I said I wasn't planning on going again. Her smile is contagious and she kept using terms of endearment on me and made me feel welcome. Probably all part of the act to get paid, but if that's the case I'm fine with her making good money from it. Don't skip out on her lads and give Joy a shot!
Anybody have recommendations for Asian MT's like Joy or younger that I should give a shot in the area? Let me know! I've read a lot of posts on here, but most MT's don't sound my speed yet as I'm mostly attracted to Asian women. Younger would be better, but hard to come by as I understand it. Would be intrigued to find AMP offering CBJ or BBBJ. Nothing more yet though, still new and don't want to get too far down the rabbit hole so soon.
TL; DR: $65 door fee / $80 tip was total damage. No indication of FS of any kind. Decent HJ. Decent Massage. Great bubbly personality. 7 out of 10.
Ekko.
FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.
While I can't confirm this guy's specific story as I don't know him, I can confirm that BBU is under investigation. Customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives in unmarked cars for the purpose of gathering evidence.
MidwestHobby
09-03-22, 12:51
This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.Props to Benz1 and HangLow. Their warnings were spot-on correct.
FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!
FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.The website could stay up as long as the hosting company is paid. They might have been paid months in advance, for a better price.
You coud go get a massage and report back, if you think it's open.
At this point it would be like taking one for the team!
MidwestHobby
09-03-22, 22:27
until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!Sadly, this is so true.
ChastD1959
09-03-22, 22:53
If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!These women are smart. I have a hard time believing their database contains anything more than names, contact info, and dates of services, none of which are damning evidence. If they included proclivities and specifics as to specific services rendered, that would be incriminating evidence against themselves, and I don't think they're that stupid.
Broadway Jay
09-03-22, 23:34
Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.
Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.
Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.
We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.
If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!
Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.
Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.
Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.
We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.100%.
Thanks for speaking truth.
LongAwaited493
09-04-22, 09:25
Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.
Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.
Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.
We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.Dude this kind of attitude is what lands you in jail. You can do all the speculating that you want nobody knows exactly what's going on right now. But if these ladies are being charged or any chance of it believe me they're going to spill any information they have to try to lighten their sentence. I can't believe how much some of you guys want to protect these women who don't give a crap about you, you're just a way to make money. We should all learn something from this, protect yourself and your family is number one. I've always felt if someone wants a deposit or my detailed information and doesn't provide theirs I don't waste my time. I don't care how good looking there. I don't think with my little head.
MidwestHobby
09-04-22, 12:38
These women are smart. I have a hard time believing their database contains anything more than names, contact info, and dates of services, none of which are damning evidence. If they included proclivities and specifics as to specific services rendered, that would be incriminating evidence against themselves, and I don't think they're that stupid.Seems to me that the more information they save, the more they have to offer to the police in exchange for a deal.
Went to Asian ivy after my provider overslept. I'd go back for the massage alone. It was Thai. Hard and therapeutic.
OK the masseuse was nat in her 20's. She knew her business. Her shorts and top were so tight that there was no chance for UTC roaming.
She was a little fast after the flip but took direction and slowed down. I only did a half hour 45 . Service was decent but not exceptional. 60 tip.
I'll go back for a longer session. Pretty much like most of the AMPs I have been to, clean sheets and new girls often.
Hey bro BJay.
Can yall give more then 2 cents? How about you go there and park right in front of door. Park so camera can record your license plate. Then walk in with cash in yall hand. Leave after hour visit with untuck shirt. Have radio playing loud in car. Maybe squeal tires when ya leave parking lot. Do all that an see if this just a big nothing. Hanglow have great respect for yall if ya do that. Hanglow maybe even come, bail yall out of jail. Is hanglow jail bound? Hell no. I am the walrus.
Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.
Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.
Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.
We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.
Hey bros.
Maybe why'all can help yall favorite provider now. School done started and maybe yall fave can use some extra cash. Specially if she nervous about cops and videos. Maybe this time to send a bejamin.
ClassyGentGr
09-05-22, 06:41
When I am in a pinch and need a good rubdown & some Oriental pampering and teasing, I visit HH in Wyoming. I have enjoyed Mona (including covered BJ & FS! But recently drew a new (to me anyway) mature Oriental gal (40's). She gave a similar rubdown and paid attention to my tight neck & shoulders and lower back, but on the flip she went right to work & the next thing I new she was delivering an amazing BBBJ! And, she swallowed the whole load! I was surprised & impressed! I plan to go again soon and hope to ask for her. I've never had a bad experience there. Not everyone's cup of tea (no pun intended), but it's my default when I want immediate quality service with fun ladies that spoil the dickens out of you (I mean, help put your underwear & shoes on!) Door fee ($45) plus $ tip. My experience has been the higher the tip, the more service you receive. But reasonable.
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Sparty On 1234
09-05-22, 08:51
When I am in a pinch and need a good rubdown & some Oriental pampering and teasing, I visit HH in Wyoming. I have enjoyed Mona (including covered BJ & FS! But recently drew a new (to me anyway) mature Oriental gal (40's). She gave a similar rubdown and paid attention to my tight neck & shoulders and lower back, but on the flip she went right to work & the next thing I new she was delivering an amazing BBBJ! And, she swallowed the whole load! I was surprised & impressed! I plan to go again soon and hope to ask for her. I've never had a bad experience there. Not everyone's cup of tea (no pun intended), but it's my default when I want immediate quality service with fun ladies that spoil the dickens out of you (I mean, help put your underwear & shoes on!) Door fee ($45) plus $ tip. My experience has been the higher the tip, the more service you receive. But reasonable.Did you get a name for the new 40's yo oriental masseuse who gave you the BBBJ and CIM? Love that option and enjoy a nice experience with a hot 40 yo Asian babe. Please provide some additional details. OK to PM me. Thanks.
With all the back and forth concerns about monger privacy and provider security I've been of the mind that cameras are everywhere. And they are. I'm not so certain that my privacy is compromised by cameras outside the buildings that are in place in most business today. They are also in place at many residences. And they certainly are at All hotels.
So while I respect viewpoints of concern about cameras, I have to ask: how do you expect to avoid cameras today? I do not think it is possible. But I also believe cameras are not as threatening as some would have us believe.
And I think it's good to note that Bbu is certainly not alone in its use of an outside camera. In fact, some of you might be surprised to know that Serenity has a camera INSIDE its lobby. I saw it when I was there to see Milan. It's mounted on the ceiling in the northwest corner of the lobby. I did not see any other cameras inside the parlor. I share this, not to alarm anyone about Serenity, but rather to make the case that concerns for cameras should not be centered on only one massage parlor. They are likely at all of them. There have been suggestions offered here over the years about ways to protect one's privacy that are always good strategies. I know in other cities with more aggressive LE efforts, some posters have recommended parking two or three blocks away and around the corner to avoid peering eyes from across the street. Others have suggested to wear a hat and coat when leaving the parlor and walk into a nearby business. Stay there for a few minutes and when you leave, take off the coat and hat and carry them to your car parked further away.
Likely these suggestions are overkill and come from watching too many Law and Order episodes. But if they make someone feel more comfortable to imbibe in a delightful massage episode, then they are of use.
Just my opinion.
G2.
Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.
Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.
Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.
We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.Whether there's an investigation or not if there's cameras and info. Being captured your risk is there. If that's acceptable to you that's your business. Its not acceptable to me. We all take some risk in this hobby but the wise have limits to what amount of risk they will take for a release. I wish you all luck. I know I'm not going anywhere I know my plate will be recorded and other info recorded. Why would I? BBU doesn't have a monopoly and female bodies and HJs.
Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking. It's all rumor and hearsay.
Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.
I don't think hate is the right word.
I have expressed my opinion about mongers saying BBU is the gold standard for our community. Basic negotiation skills will have many mongers thinking they can do better than 180 for a basic rundown and hand job.
I'm Happy you guys found your happy play place.
I was kinda wondering where all those guys are now. Curiosity is killing some of us. The frequent flyers aren't telling their stories lately and we have heard rumors. Let's get the frequent flyers to clear the air. What say you Gene2?
I don't think hate is the right word.
I have expressed my opinion on what Gene2 said was a gold standard for our community. Basic negotiation skills will have many mongers thinking they can do better than 180 for a basic rundown and hand job.
I'm Happy you guys found your happy play place.
I was kinda wondering where all those guys are now. Curiosity is killing everyone who doesn't go there. The frequent flyers aren't telling their stories lately and we have heard rumors. Let's get the frequent flyers to clear the air. What say you Gene2?Good afternoon professor. I'm usually summoned by other posters here who, unlike you, don't themselves ever post reviews or warnings. But they love drama and love to question all of those of us who do actually contribute to the forum, including you and me. So it's good to be summoned by someone willing to share with the community here.
Perhaps my work schedule this summer has been a good thing. I've been working out of state for up to three weeks at a time. So I haven't been around since the proverbial $hit hit the fan. Couple that with my branching out for a couple visits to your favorite haunt, Serenity, as well as visiting the massage UTR, I haven't been to BodyworkByUs in some time. I do see that this allegedly started with a careless monger getting discovered by his wife. And that perhaps led to a police drive by and pull over of an unfortunate dude. Hopefully dude was cool and didn't get too flustered (if it actually happened). That probably ended the factual aspect of this saga. From there it's grown into full blown urban legend. Now a dude claims he was followed while making four right turns and he saw someone writing something down on a notepad. What? Is this the 1970's? Is this Colombo? Who writes things down while driving? Dude doesn't even know which day he saw the provider. Or week. Sounds like he just wanted to be in on the story. Sort of like everyone who claims they saw a UFO in their trailer park wanting to get interviewed on TV.
So. When I return to Michigan will I go back to Bbu? Yes I will. Will I park in their lot? No. I will park further away, just like I did when I visited Serenity. Will I smile into the camera? Yes just like I did when I visited Serenity and found Hayley's camera inside her lobby. Will I stop in at a neighboring business after my appointment? Yes I will. Just like I stopped in at Sherwin Williams when I visited Serenity. Will I bring in Jameson and ginger ale if I see Saje (or vodka for Brit or fruity wine for Cecilia)? Yes I will. Just like I brought black cherry seltzer for Milan when I visited Serenity.
Will I pay $180 for a "basic rubdown and HJ"? No because the service at Bbu is a lot better and specialized than that, as is frequently reported by those who actually have experienced a session there. Will I be careful? Absolutely yes.
While I don't always share your viewpoint, I do respect it. And I think this saga illustrates the need for all here to share data. But accurate data. Perhaps others can weigh in as well. We need more posting and reviews.
G2.
While I don't always share your viewpoint, I do respect it. And I think this saga illustrates the need for all here to share data. But accurate data. Perhaps others can weigh in as well. We need more posting and reviews.
G2.Thank you Gene2.
I wasn't summoning you to go visit, hoping for an update only if you had visited. I personally don't need to know. I'm concerned for our community.
Broadway Jay is right, LE isn't worried about a few guys getting a rub and HJ. When the Wayland house vehicles got pulled over drug free vehicles didn't get in trouble. The owner and his main lady were the only ones in trouble.( To my knowledge) How would I know? I followed it closely, since the owner told me to fuck off when I warned him.
No need to rush in, I agree with Broadway
I'm sure there are others who have real information not speculation who can fill us in on why the BBU crew is not giving us information.
I'm not saying there is an investigation, it's very coincidental the rumor and lack of postings are happening at the same time.
Gene, others who have been there need to give us an update.
I moved out of that trailer park after the UFO sighting! No E. T. going to do experimental surgery on me!
I moved out of that trailer park after the UFO sighting! No E. T. going to do experimental surgery on me!Good lord! What a great response. Simple yet hilarious. Well done NJ.
While I can't confirm this guy's specific story as I don't know him, I can confirm that BBU is under investigation. Customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives in unmarked cars for the purpose of gathering evidence.Seems there has been some effort to discredit the guys who have reported an investigation, maybe obfuscating things a bit to make it sound like it was sour grapes posting by one guy. But LMoe is one of the guys who has reported it, and he was a frequent customer and enthusiastic poster about the girls at BBU so doesn't seem like he would have ulterior motives. And he states Both customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives. Sounds like he has more than a passing knowledge that this has been taking place, or is he just pissed about something that happened at BBU?
All I can say, it I've been informed that Brit was indeed pulled over, and wasn't as calm and cool as expected. Not saying info was given, but why take any chances with being pulled over, or looked into for any reason. Personally, I feel like most of this drama is part of the game for these women. Brits team seems to be butthurt with Eris for leaving, and so, they've been messing about, and karma is just giving a little lesson in mind your business. I've neem to the location once, and it just was too obvious and not a place I'll go to again due to exposure, and internal drama.
Hollywood55
09-06-22, 09:42
I got to meet Milan recently, and wow, the real deal. A true beauty. Good massage technique, nice conversation. Paid $80 for the hour and tipped $100. Definitely will repeat.Thank you so much!! Look forward to seeing you soon!!
Milan.
Hollywood55
09-06-22, 09:50
So. After a long absence from Serenity I decided to try it out again. My main reasons for staying away so long have been 1) a preference for an upfront pricing that I pay at the start for an agreed upon service. 2) some prior visits to Serenity had been less of the fantasy many of us prefer. A pretty woman who looks and smells fresh and attractive. While I'm not expecting Vogue magazine cover girl, it has been disappointing to me to see a woman at Serenity who hasn't spent sufficient time having her hair and nails and makeup (not all women need makeup, especially those with olive or mocha toned skin) ready to go. 3) my favorite places have engaging women who enjoy the art of conversation, something lacking at Serenity.
I say all this not to engage in another battle of which MP is best, simply to state what moves Gene. After reading review after review after review about Milan (all positive) I decided to see if the reviews were accurate. So I set an appointment and brought a lunch sandwich she had requested when I confirmed the appointment. Just as I arrived some old dude walked in. I waited the customary and respectful three minutes before I entered so as to allow him to be placed in a room and not have the awkward monger on monger gaze across the lobby. Mission accomplished. It worked. He was nowhere to be seen. I paid the door fee and washed up in the clean and sanitary bathroom. I had just showered before driving there but always take the opportunity to freshen up.
When Milan came in the room I was immediately smitten. Blonde. Blue eyed. Slender. Shapely. Perfect clothing and makeup that made me think I was in the presence of a special woman. The massage itself was stellar. Incredible engaging and intelligent conversation skills. Very good massage technique with intermittent brushing and light finger tickle touch to remind me I wasn't simply there for the massage! She had removed her attractive attire to reveal an even more attractive body. Think of a taller and more amply bosomed version of Julianne Hough. The flip was great and she continued the attentive touching and teasing that had me at full attention. While her menu is less open than my prior encounters at Serenity, it really didn't matter. The naughty smile, the full on staring into my eyes, the bringing me close only to let me relax and repeat this process over and over more than compensated for the smaller menu. It reminds me of when I go to a specialty steak house. .Gene2.
This was so sweet! I really appreciate this very much! You really are too kind. I enjoy what I do!. I hope you have a safe trip and PM me when you get back! Really enjoyed everything about our session! Hope to see you soon!
Milan <3.
Thank you Gene2.
Broadway Jay is right, LE isn't worried about a few guys getting a rub and HJ.
Gene, others who have been there need to give us an update.As I read the posts here I do see there have been reports from actual Bbu clients who actually leave reviews.
Sparty1234, daddyJoel, Boriken and others have posted since the $hit storm.
And of course we do have posts from those who never have left a review for Bbu. So those obfuscators have added a new word to our vocabulary but nothing to our monger knowledge base. We really need those who have been there in the past month and actually leave reviews to answer the call. And tell us how it was. From my vantage point (albeit distant) it looks like whatever episode happened was a one off. And things appear to be normal at this point. Of course all of us do well to be cautious and discreet.
Benz I also was hoping for your thoughts on camera (s) at Serenity. I don't think we should be surprised by such a discovery. But do you know how often the images are purged? And are there more than just the one mounted on the lobby ceiling? Asking for a friend. Me.
G2.
Benz I also was hoping for your thoughts on camera (s) at Serenity. I don't think we should be surprised by such a discovery. But do you know how often the images are purged? And are there more than just the one mounted on the lobby ceiling? Asking for a friend. Me.
G2.I'll answer a lot quicker than those lazy BBU posters.
Where the fuck are those guys?
Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.
I know security cameras are everywhere including a perfect place I take my car dates, I park right underneath a camera and the sign posted says video surveillance. The camera can't see inside my window. I mostly ignore the cameras everywhere I go because I'm usually wearing a hat and sunglasses. No issues for me. Parking next to serenity is awesome, plenty of options.
Hopefully I answered all your questions and then some.
Where the hell is the BBU crew of posters with our update?
I'll answer a lot quicker than those lazy BBU posters.
Where the fuck are those guys?
Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.
I know security cameras are everywhere including a perfect place I take my car dates, I park right underneath a camera and the sign posted says video surveillance. The camera can't see inside my window. I mostly ignore the cameras everywhere I go because I'm usually wearing a hat and sunglasses. No issues for me. Parking next to serenity is awesome, plenty of options.
Hopefully I answered all your questions and then some.
Where the hell is the BBU crew of posters with our update?LOL this is how Rome collapsed.
I have been here plenty of times and am very familiar with all of their locations past and present. The only time I have had any issues with any type of police "investigation" was within the past two weeks. Two weeks ago when I went I posted up early and ate lunch and noticed above normal police patrol in and around the area. Still had no issues during the massage but after I was followed for about 5 min by a UC car. I set another appt up the following week and they text the night before to confirm. That was out of the ordinary and I thought because of all the talk of investigation they were getting more than normal cancellations. The following day the provider reached out and told me she had to cancel. She said the shop was getting bad attention and they had cops in a few times in the last couple of days asking questions. I haven't been back yet but will once it settles down.
I've visited with two gals in the last couple weeks. No LEO, nothing weird, just typical fantastic visits.
I have been here plenty of times and am very familiar with all of their locations past and present. The only time I have had any issues with any type of police "investigation" was within the past two weeks. Two weeks ago when I went I posted up early and ate lunch and noticed above normal police patrol in and around the area. Still had no issues during the massage but after I was followed for about 5 min by a UC car. I set another appt up the following week and they text the night before to confirm. That was out of the ordinary and I thought because of all the talk of investigation they were getting more than normal cancellations. The following day the provider reached out and told me she had to cancel. She said the shop was getting bad attention and they had cops in a few times in the last couple of days asking questions. I haven't been back yet but will once it settles down.A hat tippo to Razzel for putting Bros before Hoes!
The rest of them must be cowering behind the boss ladies skirt.
Razzel gets the Monger of the Month Award!
Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.Thanks Benz. I do have to say it is a bit of a concern to hear that some sneaking in of clients has happened at Serenity. I thought Hayley ran a tight ship. Having dudes sneaking in the back door while I'm in a session would worry me. Is this a regular occurrence there? Having cameras to record everyone entering the place also does make the question of how long those recordings are retained a valid one. I would hope you would ask Hayley so we all can know how long our images are on her hard drive. Thanks.
G2.
Posted many a times but I have not been there in months so I have no information or any first hand experience.
Does this mean I am hiding, nope, just don't know anything more.
Hopefully some others can answer the questions you all seek.
I'll answer a lot quicker than those lazy BBU posters.
Where the fuck are those guys?
Answer to your questions about camera at Serenity. One in the lobby and one above the back door. The back door camera has caught a few of the. Idiots who worked there sneaking clients in the back door. Every time I go there I flip off the camera, just in case Hayley is looking. Purge? I'm not aware of storage, I've never seen any database. The only record I'm aware of is the calendar on the front desk that has appointments written in pen. My name has never been recorded on that book because I'm a walk in customer. I never make appointments anywhere.
I know security cameras are everywhere including a perfect place I take my car dates, I park right underneath a camera and the sign posted says video surveillance. The camera can't see inside my window. I mostly ignore the cameras everywhere I go because I'm usually wearing a hat and sunglasses. No issues for me. Parking next to serenity is awesome, plenty of options.
Hopefully I answered all your questions and then some.
Where the hell is the BBU crew of posters with our update?.
I think everyone else is spot on with the details. Also not to be that guy but I do find it interesting that every girl you mentioned works out of one place.
100%.
Thanks for speaking truth.
Posted many a times but I have not been there in months so I have no information or any first hand experience.
Does this mean I am hiding, nope, just don't know anything more.
Hopefully some others can answer the questions you all seek.
.I wasn't trying to be rude to you, they know who they are. Pussy whipped wimps.
After some reading I agree totally with HangLow3.
Tommy is BossLady.
What we need is mongers with integrity putting Bros before Hoes.
When questions were asked about my ATF Liliana, I didn't hesitate to tell the truth about the person she had become. It severed ties with her and it didn't matter to me because I put our team first.
There must be some real wimps on this board or were most of those posters plants to encourage members to visit Boss Lady. It appears she has already started more than one profile, why not ten?
Sparty On 1234
09-07-22, 10:52
Posting to protect the integrity of the BBU loyalists! Am following the drama police posts. Not sure what to make of it all but certainly caution appears to be in the wind.
Saw Raven for the first time this week. She is beautiful and had a great initial appointment. Got comfortable while I was undressing which I prefer to I can get a good look at the entire package. She is tall, slender and blonde. Amazing body with long legs, tight ass and nice natural tits. Good massage with lots of teasing. Allows plenty of roaming and likes to chat during the session. Has a very clean waxed (sugar-waxed) kitty. Great job on the flip with continued teasing, edging and explosive finish. She knows what she is doing. If you have not seen her, I would schedule an appointment soon. She is great. $1. 8 for one hour massage + $ tip. Also, be sure and ask for the nude full body slide. It is a dream come true. If you have not seen Reyna, you are indeed missing a real treat. Be sure and be kind to these girls. They are very nice and will treat you well if you treat them professionally.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/raven-duos-and-singles-availab/963882391323
Reyna and Raven have become my two favorite BBU flavors. Both give very sensuous massages. Reyna is a little curvier and has a nice round ass, but Raven is also very hot. Will see them both again. Maybe a duo if my budget can afford such! May also be more that this old cock can handle but what a way to go. LOL! Brit is always great with a very tight, athletic body. All the girls are still posting on STG and the website is up an running.
I have not had any police issues to date. I do my due diligence at each visit. Drive around the block and park off site. Take a few minutes to assess the area and look for anything suspicious. I usually stop in a nearby store or restaurant and make a small purchase before walking to the BBU door. I know they have cameras on but who doesn't? I have talked to the girls about this issue, and they don't seem to be too worried. They have all apparently completed some type of massage or aesthetic certification in an attempt to be more legit. Really don't think the police are going to work about mongers getting a massage with or without a HJ actually. But who really knows. If you get stopped just plead ignorance and don't say anything.
Appreciate the concern voiced from other mongers and would like to hear from some mongers who visit BBU, read the forum but don't post (I know there are many of you). Please add your comments and keep reading to keep all of us safe.
Happy hunting. Be safe.
Posting to protect the integrity of the BBU loyalists! Am following the drama police posts. Not sure what to make of it all but certainly caution appears to be in the wind.
Saw Raven for the first time this week. She is beautiful and had a great initial appointment. Got comfortable while I was undressing which I prefer to I can get a good look at the entire package. She is tall, slender and blonde. Amazing body with long legs, tight ass and nice natural tits. Good massage with lots of teasing. Allows plenty of roaming and likes to chat during the session. Has a very clean waxed (sugar-waxed) kitty. Great job on the flip with continued teasing, edging and explosive finish. She knows what she is doing. If you have not seen her, I would schedule an appointment soon. She is great. $1. 8 for one hour massage + $ tip. Also, be sure and ask for the nude full body slide. It is a dream come true. If you have not seen Reyna, you are indeed missing a real treat. Be sure and be kind to these girls. They are very nice and will treat you well if you treat them professionally.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/raven-duos-and-singles-availab/963882391323
Reyna and Raven have become my two favorite BBU flavors. Both give very sensuous massages. Reyna is a little curvier and has a nice round ass, but Raven is also very hot. Will see them both again. Maybe a duo if my budget can afford such! May also be more that this old cock can handle but what a way to go. LOL! Brit is always great with a very tight, athletic body. All the girls are still posting on STG and the website is up an running.
I have not had any police issues to date. I do my due diligence at each visit. Drive around the block and park off site. Take a few minutes to assess the area and look for anything suspicious. I usually stop in a nearby store or restaurant and make a small purchase before walking to the BBU door. I know they have cameras on but who doesn't? I have talked to the girls about this issue, and they don't seem to be too worried. They have all apparently completed some type of massage or aesthetic certification in an attempt to be more legit. Really don't think the police are going to work about mongers getting a massage with or without a HJ actually. But who really knows. If you get stopped just plead ignorance and don't say anything.
Appreciate the concern voiced from other mongers and would like to hear from some mongers who visit BBU, read the forum but don't post (I know there are many of you). Please add your comments and keep reading to keep all of us safe.
Happy hunting. Be safe.The only crime I see being committed is that someone would pay $280 for a body slide.
After some reading I agree totally with HangLow3.
Tommy is BossLady.
What we need is mongers with integrity putting Bros before Hoes.Well I have to part company with you on this front Benz. Tommey is a legit poster and isn't Brit. He has given me leads on other providers at other places. He definitely has a body type her prefers. Spinners.
I'm more of a Latina guy. And he knows that. Curvy or otherwise. I love the beauty of olive or mocha skin.
If we want posts from guys who have been to Bbu lately maybe we should accept them for what they say. And in my experience he has never violated my trust. He's honest in his opinions and has kept me from being distracted by some of the troll posters here. You've also done a good job of encouraging me to ignore the trolls. So you both have benefited me. Thank you to both of you.
I believe Brit has her own user account here. As do a number of ladies including Hayleymatters.
G2.
I am curious. How far do I have to drive from Grand Rapids tro find a Table Shower? I am hearing that it is all the way to Jackson. Does anybody know differently?
Well I have to part company with you on this front Benz. Tommey is a legit poster and isn't Brit. He has given me leads on other providers at other places. He definitely has a body type her prefers. Spinners.
I'm more of a Latina guy. And he knows that. Curvy or otherwise. I love the beauty of olive or mocha skin.
If we want posts from guys who have been to Bbu lately maybe we should accept them for what they say. And in my experience he has never violated my trust. He's honest in his opinions and has kept me from being distracted by some of the troll posters here. You've also done a good job of encouraging me to ignore the trolls. So you both have benefited me. Thank you to both of you.
I believe Brit has her own user account here. As do a number of ladies including Hayleymatters.
G2.You and BoatGut have convinced me about Tommey. I'm betting Brit has more than one profile.
You and BoatGut have convinced me about Tommey. I'm betting Brit has more than one profile.I have no idea about that. But I'm actually more worried that no one else has weighed in about dudes being snuck in the back door at Serenity. How about our Serenity aficionados. Why aren't they posting about dudes sneaking in the back door? How worried are they about this fact? And how do they feel about the cameras being inside the building?
Benz I applaud you for sharing those facts. But where are the other Serenity reviewers? We need to hear from them. Cmon guys. Let us know your concerns. The community needs to hear from you.
G2.
Thanks Benz. I do have to say it is a bit of a concern to hear that some sneaking in of clients has happened at Serenity. I thought Hayley ran a tight ship. Having dudes sneaking in the back door while I'm in a session would worry me. Is this a regular occurrence there? Having cameras to record everyone entering the place also does make the question of how long those recordings are retained a valid one. I would hope you would ask Hayley so we all can know how long our images are on her hard drive. Thanks.
G2.I don't think you need to worry about guys sneaking in your room and walking your willy. They were taken straight to their own massage room with a provider hoping to keep the door fee. You're right she does run a right ship and that's why the provider gets fired for it.
She's not an IT guy and doesn't have one. The camera is connected to her phone, she uses the cameras to few the number of clients that arrive while she's gone. Like a turnstile at an amusement park. I didn't need to asked her, she discussed the need for camera with me before she had them installed.
She doesn't have time for games.
I will attest you don't need to worry about the back door at serenity. I have been offered that option before if I wanted to be more discreet. They take much effiort to keep people seperated and it is just another option they can offer because of their facility set up. In my opinion it is an nice option.
If I am feeling at unease for any reason I just contact them and set something up that I am comfortable with. Front door, back door. Must admit the back door can be fun
I am not IT with cameras. Is the walrus? I am not the walrus.
I don't think you need to worry about guys sneaking in your room and walking your willy. They were taken straight to their own massage room with a provider hoping to keep the door fee. You're right she does run a right ship and that's why the provider gets fired for it.
She's not an IT guy and doesn't have one. The camera is connected to her phone, she uses the cameras to few the number of clients that arrive while she's gone. Like a turnstile at an amusement park. I didn't need to asked her, she discussed the need for camera with me before she had them installed.
She doesn't have time for games..
In terms of profiles. I think there is a difference in one that lists as a provider (haleymatters, adorablerose) and one that is a provider that masks as a monger. I have no proof of anyone does but this community seems to call those ones out quicker than I figure out.
Stay save. .
Well I have to part company with you on this front Benz. Tommey is a legit poster and isn't Brit. He has given me leads on other providers at other places. He definitely has a body type her prefers. Spinners.
I'm more of a Latina guy. And he knows that. Curvy or otherwise. I love the beauty of olive or mocha skin.
If we want posts from guys who have been to Bbu lately maybe we should accept them for what they say. And in my experience he has never violated my trust. He's honest in his opinions and has kept me from being distracted by some of the troll posters here. You've also done a good job of encouraging me to ignore the trolls. So you both have benefited me. Thank you to both of you.
I believe Brit has her own user account here. As do a number of ladies including Hayleymatters.
G2..
I am curious. How far do I have to drive from Grand Rapids tro find a Table Shower? I am hearing that it is all the way to Jackson. Does anybody know differently?Happy or Spring in Battle Creek are the best options.
Not sure if it's related or not but drove by bbu this afternoon and saw this. Wanted to get a pic to give everyone a heads up. Even if it's not related they are patrolling that area. This was 2:41 pm today, Kenneth street right behind bbu. Stay safe everyone.
Clark.
I am curious. How far do I have to drive from Grand Rapids tro find a Table Shower? I am hearing that it is all the way to Jackson. Does anybody know differently?The islands (Hawaii Spa) just outside of Lansing near Potterville has one. It hasn't been the same since Mickie left. I do / did like the table shower followed up by the sauna, before heading back to the room.
PDiddy6903
09-08-22, 06:56
Does anyone have any information on My Massage? It's located in a plaza off of Canal in Grandville right next to China One Buffet. Noticed it when I went to a dental appointment, LOL. Curious as to what type of massage place it is. Might be a nice way to relax before I see the dentist next time.
MichiganMan198
09-08-22, 08:33
Seen Haley at Pacific Cascade on 28th. Gets comfortable quick and is fairly priced. 40 door and. 80 tip. Much larger than pictured. Massage was mediocre at best and decent HE.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/cum-let-me-make-you-feel-good/643257675949
Ok. Random musing here.
Why would a completely legitimate (supposedly) massage therapist advertise on skip the games? There are other options available for advertising legitimate massage services? Or is this simply a way to be somewhat under the radar and offer happy endings if things seem safe and comfortable with the dude?
And doesn't the second photo make her look angry? I'm not sure I would even want a legitimate massage from a scowling woman. All right guys. What say you to my queries?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-amazingly-relaxing-massage-th/646155637810
G2.
I thought I heard the lotus spa had a table shower, I know Asian Ivy does, but you pay extra and it's not quite as fun.
The islands (Hawaii Spa) just outside of Lansing near Potterville has one. It hasn't been the same since Mickie left. I do / did like the table shower followed up by the sauna, before heading back to the room.
I will attest you don't need to worry about the back door at serenity. I have been offered that option before if I wanted to be more discreet. They take much effiort to keep people seperated and it is just another option they can offer because of their facility set up. In my opinion it is an nice option.
If I am feeling at unease for any reason I just contact them and set something up that I am comfortable with. Front door, back door. Must admit the back door can be fun
I am not IT with cameras. Is the walrus? I am not the walrus.
.Ok thanks BG.
It just seemed odd to me that there was a concern for cameras at Bbu. But no such concern about cameras at Serenity. As I've stated earlier I believe cameras are everywhere and while overeating isn't necessary, we all should take appropriate actions to keep as anonymous as possible. Parking further away. Stopping at a local business. Wearing sunglasses and a hat. Or a mask (during Covid) helped blur identity.
G2.
I have no idea about that. But I'm actually more worried that no one else has weighed in about dudes being snuck in the back door at Serenity. How about our Serenity aficionados. Why aren't they posting about dudes sneaking in the back door? How worried are they about this fact? And how do they feel about the cameras being inside the building?
Benz I applaud you for sharing those facts. But where are the other Serenity reviewers? We need to hear from them. Cmon guys. Let us know your concerns. The community needs to hear from you.
G2.I have been to Serenity twice in the last year. Each time I saw Milan and wrote about the experience here. I never saw any cameras when I was there so maybe it was before they were installed, or I just didn't notice them so I have nothing to add to the conversation, but I am listening with interest.
She left to better her life, how can.
Anyone hold that against one of they're employees? I have saw her and she is slowly moving into another profession. We all eventually move on just be happy for her!!
Good question. I, myself have often wondered the same.
Some providers in the massage section offer FS; while other providers in the escort section are strictly massage.
Makes it extremely confusing to the average monger. I understand if you're one or the other, but please post in the appropriate section.
Thanks!
Ok. Random musing here.
Why would a completely legitimate (supposedly) massage therapist advertise on skip the games? There are other options available for advertising legitimate massage services? Or is this simply a way to be somewhat under the radar and offer happy endings if things seem safe and comfortable with the dude?
And doesn't the second photo make her look angry? I'm not sure I would even want a legitimate massage from a scowling woman. All right guys. What say you to my queries?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-amazingly-relaxing-massage-th/646155637810
G2.
Not sure if it's related or not but drove by bbu this afternoon and saw this. Wanted to get a pic to give everyone a heads up. Even if it's not related they are patrolling that area. This was 2:41 pm today, Kenneth street right behind bbu. Stay safe everyone.
Clark.Multiple reports of investigation, camers that capture plates, a database, Britt pulled over, and a pic of LE staked out behind the building. I'm sure its all a big series of coincidences. Nothing to see here! You all keep heading in there boys. What could go wrong?
Or, where there's smoke, there's fire and what could have been sour grapes posts pretending there's an investigation seems to be shaping up to be true.
Years ago when Brook Billions was fairly new and was a decent date she invited me to see her at that house in Wayland. I guess she was there visiting or something. I was planning to go but my spidey sense kept telling me to cancel. I did cancel. And not long after the bust hit the news. I won't lie. I was very close to going in spite of being leery of the place. Thank God I went with my gut instead of little head.
Good question. I, myself have often wondered the same.
Some providers in the massage section offer FS; while other providers in the escort section are strictly massage.
Makes it extremely confusing to the average monger. I understand if you're one or the other, but please post in the appropriate section.One reason that massage gals post in the escort section is STG has made it very hard to open an account for ads in the massage section. You need to send in very specific information, including a picture of yourself holding a paper with the current date, as well as confirm the address of your business. And even if you jump through all the hoops, there is a long waiting list to activate new accounts. There are still some old logins that retired people will sell to new therapists, but those are disappearing. So many women will share their login just to be able to advertise there. A number of women have told me about this problem. So many just say fuck it, and advertise under the escort section, where it is apparently easier to open a new account.
As far as escorts advertising in the massage section, I suspect there are a couple reasons for that. Some gals have an account that allows them to advertise in both places (old enough accounts I guess), so they are simply looking for maximum exposure. Take me, for example. I don't even look at the escort section, no interest. So I'd never see an escort's ads if they only appear there. Second, a number of massage providers don't see any distinction between massage and full service, so they pose as massage for appearances, but offer the escort experience.
As to straight massage advertising on a sex web site? No idea. Maybe they are just looking for exposure. But if there is no play of any kind, that ain't the kind of exposure they'd want. So it makes no sense. My guess, anyone advertising on STG is open to play.
Ok thanks BG.
It just seemed odd to me that there was a concern for cameras at Bbu. But no such concern about cameras at Serenity. As I've stated earlier I believe cameras are everywhere and while overeating isn't necessary, we all should take appropriate actions to keep as anonymous as possible. Parking further away. Stopping at a local business. Wearing sunglasses and a hat. Or a mask (during Covid) helped blur identity.
G2.Mountain vs. MoleHill.
Serenity camera is for a head counter like the turnstiles at an amusement park.
No extra information about clients on her daily calendar on the desk. No room to write your real name, address, license plate or who you really are and your preferences. The appointment calendar on the desk only has room for the fake name everyone gives. I've leaned over the counter to look, very simple with pen not a database.
Cameras are everywhere and we all know that.
Keep your chin down and you'll never be seen, just your head counted to balance the books at the end of the day.I've been there, not worried at all.
Your question has been asked and answered by more than one member
Have there been any UFO sightings at these places? Can anyone say for sure that a Monger is safe from Alien Abductions during the massages?
Have there been any UFO sightings at these places? Can anyone say for sure that a Monger is safe from Alien Abductions during the massages?And don't forget about the "back door" penetration going on! Serious anal probe action!
Once again NJ brings some levity to the conversation.
Thanks.
Have there been any UFO sightings at these places? Can anyone say for sure that a Monger is safe from Alien Abductions during the massages?LOL. Not that I know of, no. Wasn't any reported in Wayland either. Only backdoor penetration rumored was after the guy who owned the house was in prison.
QuickVisitor
09-08-22, 18:29
Does anyone have any information on My Massage? It's located in a plaza off of Canal in Grandville right next to China One Buffet. Noticed it when I went to a dental appointment, LOL. Curious as to what type of massage place it is. Might be a nice way to relax before I see the dentist next time.They have a lot of female customers and no doors on any of the massage rooms, just curtains. I can't imagine anything happening beyond self service here.
Ok. Random musing here.
Why would a completely legitimate (supposedly) massage therapist advertise on skip the games? There are other options available for advertising legitimate massage services? Or is this simply a way to be somewhat under the radar and offer happy endings if things seem safe and comfortable with the dude?
And doesn't the second photo make her look angry? I'm not sure I would even want a legitimate massage from a scowling woman. All right guys. What say you to my queries?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-amazingly-relaxing-massage-th/646155637810
G2.I've wondered the same thing G2. Tommey had some interesting insight on why some massage providers post as escorts and vice versa and how the STG accounts work, but this seems like something different. I know A LOT of providers on STG will say "yes, just professional massage, nothing illegal, donation for time only, two consenting adults," etc. Just to try to have plausible deniability if they get caught and get into issues with LE. But we know all of that is said with a wink and a smile. But this seems to be something different. There's this scowling provider who also has a second ad on STG with other pictures that don't really make her look any more inviting and there's a second provider posting on there that seems to just be straight legit massage that I posted about a few days back asking a similar question. Are these women really advertising just massage with no on STG and are they that clueless about what the site is for or are they just being really, really cautious? On the one hand, I want to believe that anyone who would advertise on STG knows what's up. On the other hand if you put something in your ad like, "Let's be clear up front so there's no misunderstanding about what I will and won't do" or something like that, it seems pretty clear what they're saying. Hell, even Sweetie's ads now seem like she only does massage. They at least used to include a line about tickling the pickle (and she does give the pickle a nice tickle IMO). Now they don't even mention that. This is a trend on STG I hope doesn't catch on. It's bad enough we already have to dodge a bunch of dick pics when we go on STG (I only mentions this to say if that's your thing, post it on the appropriate page--not on those for guys looking for female escorts or MPs), but now we have these "legit massage only" ads to sift through. If this starts to take up more space on STG, mongers will look elsewhere so it seems the admins of STG would try to weed this out.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/massage-therapy-247/563792039870
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/certified-massage-therapist-ca/407384803364
BTW, Lux is posting again with specials but also a rate hike. 300/ hr and 175/ hhr. Even if she had good reviews that's quite steep.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/new-clients-15-off-30-mins-rep/911935058140
Moonglow913
09-09-22, 08:13
BTW, Lux is posting again with specials but also a rate hike. 300/ hr and 175/ hhr. Even if she had good reviews that's quite steep.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/new-clients-15-off-30-mins-rep/911935058140Too bad about this lady. I like her looks. But the reviews! No way.
What can be said that hasn't been said already about her? Well worth bringing a gift of good cognac!
Still the best.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/635272543130
Enjoy.
Not trying to have a competition here. But Phoenix is an under valued gem. She is still learning but is well worth the effort involved to see her. Your patience will be amply rewarded.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-phoenix-/669868455301
Enjoy.
G2.
I've wondered the same thing G2. Tommey had some interesting insight on why some massage providers post as escorts and vice versa and how the STG accounts work, but this seems like something different. I know A LOT of providers on STG will say "yes, just professional massage, nothing illegal, donation for time only, two consenting adults," etc. Just to try to have plausible deniability if they get caught and get into issues with LE. But we know all of that is said with a wink and a smile. But this seems to be something different. There's this scowling provider who also has a second ad on STG with other pictures that don't really make her look any more inviting and there's a second provider posting on there that seems to just be straight legit massage that I posted about a few days back asking a similar question. Are these women really advertising just massage with no on STG and are they that clueless about what the site is for or are they just being really, really cautious? On the one hand, I want to believe that anyone who would advertise on STG knows what's up. On the other hand if you put something in your ad like, "Let's be clear up front so there's no misunderstanding about what I will and won't do" or something like that, it seems pretty clear what they're saying. Hell, even Sweetie's ads now seem like she only does massage. They at least used to include a line about tickling the pickle (and she does give the pickle a nice tickle IMO). Now they don't even mention that. This is a trend on STG I hope doesn't catch on. It's bad enough we already have to dodge a bunch of dick pics when we go on STG (I only mentions this to say if that's your thing, post it on the appropriate page--not on those for guys looking for female escorts or MPs), but now we have these "legit massage only" ads to sift through. If this starts to take up more space on STG, mongers will look elsewhere so it seems the admins of STG would try to weed this out.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/massage-therapy-247/563792039870
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/certified-massage-therapist-ca/407384803364A few different views on the subject of HE and medical massage combination. Having had a lot of really good professional massages is probably why I'm a harsh critic .
Before my knee replacement I needed a masseuse for cramping caused by a bad gate created by the need for a knee replacement. How many mongers have visited a hobby girl trying to give a good massage or not really trying at all and you know your getting HJ so you don't care about the massage. How many mongers hope the 4th visit will be the day they get a BJ instead of HJ. Most real masseuse have given plenty of HE just depends on who and when they need money for rent or car payment. The who is the biggest factor for a trained masseuse. I had legit pain and they could tell by the tension in my leg, they knew I wasn't a creepazoid looking for fun. The good ones will document all areas of need in their database so they know what to work on at your next visit.
Like with all women, eventually the wall comes down (good hygiene and attitude matter). You don't need to be a smooth talker just a real nice guy with needs.Occasionally I had them contacting me asking if I was coming in for my monthly visit, that's how I knew rent was due.
There is another option too if you visit Parri Curtisy at Curtisy Massage. Click the menu button and go to pelvic massage.
https://www.curtisymassagetherapy.com/
A few different views on the subject of HE and medical massage combination. Having had a lot of really good professional massages is probably why I'm a harsh critic .
Before my knee replacement I needed a masseuse for cramping caused by a bad gate created by the need for a knee replacement. How many mongers have visited a hobby girl trying to give a good massage or not really trying at all and you know your getting HJ so you don't care about the massage. How many mongers hope the 4th visit will be the day they get a BJ instead of HJ. Most real masseuse have given plenty of HE just depends on who and when they need money for rent or car payment. The who is the biggest factor for a trained masseuse. I had legit pain and they could tell by the tension in my leg, they knew I wasn't a creepazoid looking for fun. The good ones will document all areas of need in their database so they know what to work on at your next visit.
Like with all women, eventually the wall comes down (good hygiene and attitude matter). You don't need to be a smooth talker just a real nice guy with needs.Occasionally I had them contacting me asking if I was coming in for my monthly visit, that's how I knew rent was due.
There is another option too if you visit Parri Curtisy at Curtisy Massage. Click the menu button and go to pelvic massage.
https://www.curtisymassagetherapy.com/I'm not saying some of these women aren't capable of giving good massages as well as the ending we're looking for. And it's definitely a bonus if the massage is good or even great and it's a disappointment if it's lousy, makes you feel worse, or they simply push a bit of oil around on your back for 5 minutes and then want you to flip. But if I'm in need of an actual, legit massage for medical reasons or just because I feel like that's what I need, I use Google to find a legit establishment with LCMTs working there. Or is use the ones affiliated with whatever chiropractor I'm going to at the time. I don't go on STG looking for that type of massage or with those expectations. And I'd venture to guess that most guys who go on STG want to have some level of assurance that if a provider is advertising on STG, at least a HE is included. But that doesn't seem to be what at least 2 providers posting there now have in mind based on what their ads say.
Interesting you bring up Parri Curtis. She was sort of my "gateway drug" into this hobby. She does give a really good massage IMO. She's had the training and knows what she's doing. And she's a really neat lady. I used to see her semi-regularly and if I was looking for a really good massage that also included a good ending and those were my criteria, I'd go back. But after I started branching out to more "sensual massage" providers, I found it harder to justify going to Parri if and when the ending was really my main goal. She's more expensive than other providers who offer HE, though admittedly she does give you more on the massage side. You have to book the "pelvic floor massage" as an add on and she wants you to schedule for 90-120 minutes if you want to add that on. She makes you do Kegel exercises or something like that while she's taking care of the business (to keep it "medical" I think), there's no roaming or teasing with her (at least, she posts that on her website and seemed very firm on that back when I saw her. Others may have different experiences), and the biggest drawback to me--somewhere along the way, she started wearing gloves. Even when I get a legit massage with no playful ending, they generally still use their bare hands and don't wear gloves, which is nice. So, to me, much more of a mood killer if it's an intimate massage and the provider wears gloves. She still gets the job done, but it detracts from the experience in my book. With the lack of roaming, teasing, and no getting comfortable on her part, it reminds me of Sweetie's massage--except Sweetie doesn't wear gloves, so there's still some nice skin to skin contact, and Sweetie lets you relax and enjoy the moment without having to tighten your abs in the middle of the fun.
We each have our own needs, experiences, and opinions of course, and these are just mine. I'm certainly not trying to start an argument or debate or offend anyone. There's more than enough of that on this forum without me getting involved. And there's plenty of different providers out there offering different options. But if these 2 providers posting on STG saying that they only offer massage really mean that, then they should probably just have a webpage that can be found on Google. Or even post on Craigslist. It's kind of a mixed bag. But not on STG.
I was fortunate to meet Chyna a few times. She is simply outstanding for me. I miss her.
So I was curious if any one that was previously fortunate enough to have made her acquaintance, has seen or heard from her lately. It has been since July for myself. I hope all is well and that she may only be attending to other aspects of her life. Any intel would be greatly appreciated. PM if you feel that is easier.
Thank you.
I'm not saying some of these women aren't capable of giving good massages as well as the ending we're looking for. And it's definitely a bonus if the massage is good or even great and it's a disappointment if it's lousy, makes you feel worse, or they simply push a bit of oil around on your back for 5 minutes and then want you to flip. But if I'm in need of an actual, legit massage for medical reasons or just because I feel like that's what I need, I use Google to find a legit establishment with LCMTs working there. Or is use the ones affiliated with whatever chiropractor I'm going to at the time. I don't go on STG looking for that type of massage or with those expectations. And I'd venture to guess that most guys who go on STG want to have some level of assurance that if a provider is advertising on STG, at least a HE is included. But that doesn't seem to be what at least 2 providers posting there now have in mind based on what their ads say.
Interesting you bring up Parri Curtis. She was sort of my "gateway drug" into this hobby. She does give a really good massage IMO. She's had the training and knows what she's doing. And she's a really neat lady. I used to see her semi-regularly and if I was looking for a really good massage that also included a good ending and those were my criteria, I'd go back. But after I started branching out to more "sensual massage" providers, I found it harder to justify going to Parri if and when the ending was really my main goal. She's more expensive than other providers who offer HE, though admittedly she does give you more on the massage side. You have to book the "pelvic floor massage" as an add on and she wants you to schedule for 90-120 minutes if you want to add that on. She makes you do Kegel exercises or something like that while she's taking care of the business (to keep it "medical" I think), there's no roaming or teasing with her (at least, she posts that on her website and seemed very firm on that back when I saw her. Others may have different experiences), and the biggest drawback to me--somewhere along the way, she started wearing gloves. Even when I get a legit massage with no playful ending, they generally still use their bare hands and don't wear gloves, which is nice. So, to me, much more of a mood killer if it's an intimate massage and the provider wears gloves. She still gets the job done, but it detracts from the experience in my book. With the lack of roaming, teasing, and no getting comfortable on her part, it reminds me of Sweetie's massage--except Sweetie doesn't wear gloves, so there's still some nice skin to skin contact, and Sweetie lets you relax and enjoy the moment without having to tighten your abs in the middle of the fun.
We each have our own needs, experiences, and opinions of course, and these are just mine. I'm certainly not trying to start an argument or debate or offend anyone. There's more than enough of that on this forum without me getting involved. And there's plenty of different providers out there offering different options. But if these 2 providers posting on STG saying that they only offer massage really mean that, then they should probably just have a webpage that can be found on Google. Or even post on Craigslist. It's kind of a mixed bag. But not on STG.I agree on all points.
Except the part where they should post on another site. IMO A massage posted without extras on STG is a way of screening without saying I screen out dickheads that are disrespectful and have bad hygiene. It might take a few visits, at the end of each visit, I would politely ask is that all for today? As long as you're freshly showered and respectful I think you'll eventually get what you came for.
RobovDaslav
09-10-22, 00:04
Ok. Random musing here.
Why would a completely legitimate (supposedly) massage therapist advertise on skip the games? There are other options available for advertising legitimate massage services? Or is this simply a way to be somewhat under the radar and offer happy endings if things seem safe and comfortable with the dude?
And doesn't the second photo make her look angry? I'm not sure I would even want a legitimate massage from a scowling woman. All right guys. What say you to my queries?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-amazingly-relaxing-massage-th/646155637810
G2.Going off the ad you referenced, to me, it looks like the same "Sexual talk will get you blocked" spill that other providers give, just a bit more heavy handed. Given that she's advertising both incalls and outcalls AND 24/7 hours AND no professional pics (with a table or anything), there's no way she's 100% legit. But, that's just my gut feeling, I've never visited her, so couldn't say.
And about that second picture; it gives off more of an (albeit poor) attempt at a sultry look.
On the more broad, hypothetics of the question: yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense for a 100% legit business to attempt to get clientele from a site that is CLEARLY about extra curricular activities with just a 10 second scroll. Which also leads me to think that the "Purely Medical" grand standing is for sake of deniability than any actual claim of legitimacy, akin to the "Payment is for my time ONLY" schtick that escorts love to use.
Going off the ad you referenced, to me, it looks like the same "Sexual talk will get you blocked" spill that other providers give, just a bit more heavy handed. Given that she's advertising both incalls and outcalls AND 24/7 hours AND no professional pics (with a table or anything), there's no way she's 100% legit. But, that's just my gut feeling, I've never visited her, so couldn't say.
And about that second picture; it gives off more of an (albeit poor) attempt at a sultry look.
On the more broad, hypothetics of the question: yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense for a 100% legit business to attempt to get clientele from a site that is CLEARLY about extra curricular activities with just a 10 second scroll. Which also leads me to think that the "Purely Medical" grand standing is for sake of deniability than any actual claim of legitimacy, akin to the "Payment is for my time ONLY" schtick that escorts love to use.I agree completely. It just seems an odd medium to use for advertising an entirely legitimate massage experience. To me it's like deciding to post "Sound of Music" video on Pornhub. It's just the wrong vehicle. The buyer is going to be disappointed.
And sultry looks are apparently not as easily captured as the girl thinks. She looks either annoyed or devoid of sensuality. Neither sells.
G2.
Ok. Random musing here.
Why would a completely legitimate (supposedly) massage therapist advertise on skip the games? There are other options available for advertising legitimate massage services? Or is this simply a way to be somewhat under the radar and offer happy endings if things seem safe and comfortable with the dude?
And doesn't the second photo make her look angry? I'm not sure I would even want a legitimate massage from a scowling woman. All right guys. What say you to my queries?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-amazingly-relaxing-massage-th/646155637810.The only thing missing to solve this riddle, is a picture of her giving us the middle finger. Then we would know for sure she is an escort not a massage therapist.
Going off the ad you referenced, to me, it looks like the same "Sexual talk will get you blocked" spill that other providers give, just a bit more heavy handed. Given that she's advertising both incalls and outcalls AND 24/7 hours AND no professional pics (with a table or anything), there's no way she's 100% legit. Without a table there can not be a real massage. I've asked many providers in the massage section So You Have A Table, the answer is usually No.
The only good massage I've ever had on a bed was in Flower Child's RV. She's very good and the mattress is thinner than normal beds with a firm wooded bottom, those two facts probably helped the massage feel like I was on a table. Flower Child hovering over me made it a perfect massage. I think an RV bed is probably better than a table.
As I mentioned before, these ads are obviously saying limited experience unless you're my type and LE keep scrolling nothing to see here.
Sparty On 1234
09-10-22, 09:15
If you are looking for a hot masseuse, check out Jezebel. She has a very safe upscale in call location in downtown GR. She is a hot 33 yo slender south African babe. Large, natural tits. Shaved kitty and loves to play. She had a nuru blow up mattress in her last place and think she may have it in her current place for nuru. I think the nuru is messy and overrated so I have opted to just use the bed, play and fuck. At first appt did the nuru thing, then showered together and ended up in her bed.
I have seen her many times over the past 3 years. She is dark skinned, hot and loves to give a BBBJCIM, FS (covered or uncovered) and about anything else you desire. Even some BDSM stuff. PM for more details. She does not watch the clock and MSOG are the norm with her. My sessions last at least 2 hours but I am a regular now. YMMV. She is a pleaser and will suck and fuck you dry. She likes a dry white wine which seems to make her quite horny and she really relaxes and produces.
If you get to know her and treat her nice she will deliver in spades. This is one hot fuck guys so if you like a dark-skinned hot babe with huge natural tits who will do most anything I would see her. Her rates are a little bit higher but guaranteed satisfaction. Her BBBJCIM technique is very good. She is a good lay. Tight pussy that tastes good. She has no children. Enjoy and let me know how it works out. $$$ to $$ incall. Slightly more outcall. I've done both and done a couple of overnights with her. Great strip tease to nude in my living room and fucked her on the floor and then again in bed this week. Woke up to her giving me head with BBBJCIM. A dream girl for sure. How many girls will wake up a guy with their mouth? Hard to beat. LOL!
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/real-nuru-massage--let-me-spoi/874508168111
Mike Yepthatsm
09-10-22, 14:33
Are those her real pics? Thanks for the review.
If you are looking for a hot masseuse, check out Jezebel. She has a very safe upscale in call location in downtown GR. She is a hot 33 yo slender south African babe. Large, natural tits. Shaved kitty and loves to play. She had a nuru blow up mattress in her last place and think she may have it in her current place for nuru. I think the nuru is messy and overrated so I have opted to just use the bed, play and fuck. At first appt did the nuru thing, then showered together and ended up in her bed.
I have seen her many times over the past 3 years. She is dark skinned, hot and loves to give a BBBJCIM, FS (covered or uncovered) and about anything else you desire. Even some BDSM stuff. PM for more details. She does not watch the clock and MSOG are the norm with her. My sessions last at least 2 hours but I am a regular now. YMMV. She is a pleaser and will suck and fuck you dry. She likes a dry white wine which seems to make her quite horny and she really relaxes and produces.
If you get to know her and treat her nice she will deliver in spades. This is one hot fuck guys so if you like a dark-skinned hot babe with huge natural tits who will do most anything I would see her. Her rates are a little bit higher but guaranteed satisfaction. Her BBBJCIM technique is very good. She is a good lay. Tight pussy that tastes good. She has no children. Enjoy and let me know how it works out. $$$ to $$ incall. Slightly more outcall. I've done both and done a couple of overnights with her. Great strip tease to nude in my living room and fucked her on the floor and then again in bed this week. Woke up to her giving me head with BBBJCIM. A dream girl for sure. How many girls will wake up a guy with their mouth? Hard to beat. LOL!
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/real-nuru-massage--let-me-spoi/874508168111
If you are looking for a hot masseuse, check out Jezebel. She has a very safe upscale in call location in downtown GR. She is a hot 33 yo slender south African babe. Large, natural tits. Shaved kitty and loves to play. She had a nuru blow up mattress in her last place and think she may have it in her current place for nuru. I think the nuru is messy and overrated so I have opted to just use the bed, play and fuck. At first appt did the nuru thing, then showered together and ended up in her bed.
I have seen her many times over the past 3 years. She is dark skinned, hot and loves to give a BBBJCIM, FS (covered or uncovered) and about anything else you desire. Even some BDSM stuff. PM for more details. She does not watch the clock and MSOG are the norm with her. My sessions last at least 2 hours but I am a regular now. YMMV. She is a pleaser and will suck and fuck you dry. She likes a dry white wine which seems to make her quite horny and she really relaxes and produces.
If you get to know her and treat her nice she will deliver in spades. This is one hot fuck guys so if you like a dark-skinned hot babe with huge natural tits who will do most anything I would see her. Her rates are a little bit higher but guaranteed satisfaction. Her BBBJCIM technique is very good. She is a good lay. Tight pussy that tastes good. She has no children. Enjoy and let me know how it works out. $$$ to $$ incall. Slightly more outcall. I've done both and done a couple of overnights with her. Great strip tease to nude in my living room and fucked her on the floor and then again in bed this week. Woke up to her giving me head with BBBJCIM. A dream girl for sure. How many girls will wake up a guy with their mouth? Hard to beat. LOL!
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/real-nuru-massage--let-me-spoi/874508168111The only thing you're off about is she has bolt ons now. Still look great though.
Sparty On 1234
09-11-22, 09:29
The only thing you're off about is she has bolt ons now. Still look great though.The pics are 100% her. She is a hot, sexy, curvy, dark skinned South African. She has a little bit of an accent. She is very sensual.
She may have bolt ons and if they are they are some of the best I have seen, felt and sucked. Her tits are amazing with large areolas and nipples, and she loves them sucked.
Enjoy. She is a gem guys and is looking for business!
Re: Jezebel.
Enjoy. She is a gem guys and is looking for business!Absolutely! She was my first and only Nuru a few years ago, and then I had to leave the hobby for awhile. I mostly remember her accent, attitude, and aggression (in a good way, she can be a take charge kind of lady). Now I'm gone from GR, but she'd be high on my list when I come back to visit.
ZzTopSterZz
09-11-22, 11:26
Without a table there can not be a real massage. I've asked many providers in the massage section So You Have A Table, the answer is usually No.
The only good massage I've ever had on a bed was in Flower Child's RV. She's very good and the mattress is thinner than normal beds with a firm wooded bottom, those two facts probably helped the massage feel like I was on a table. Flower Child hovering over me made it a perfect massage. I think an RV bed is probably better than a table.
As I mentioned before, these ads are obviously saying limited experience unless you're my type and LE keep scrolling nothing to see here.Agree with Benz. The presence of a massage table does not guarantee a good massage. Some massage providers have no idea what they are doing. But the absence of massage table pretty much guarantees that she's an escort and you are unlikely to get an actual massage. So it's a helpful screening question with independents.
MrLimpBiscuit
09-11-22, 12:18
Been almost months to see little miss Ashley for nice massage, mostly my delays though. Excellent pressure, pleasant giiggly fun. LOL. Will see her again if time permits. Love the ink. Thinkin she will call me to get together again. Spent half the time admiring her perfect little body with my own coconut oi massage therapy. LOL. Told her I charged 50 cent. Fun girl. Meeting her for the first time, wasnt going to push a menu. ? 80/ door rent. ? 160 tip. Plus generous 20. Too much. ? I had fun, is all that matters.
The pics are 100% her. She is a hot, sexy, curvy, dark skinned South African. She has a little bit of an accent. She is very sensual.
She may have bolt ons and if they are they are some of the best I have seen, felt and sucked. Her tits are amazing with large areolas and nipples, and she loves them sucked.
Enjoy. She is a gem guys and is looking for business!I agree with these latest two accounts about Jezebel. Her accent is cute, and I would call it a confidence, not really a total dominant take charge. She knows what to do, and keeps things moving. It's been a while since I visited, which I really need to do again, but I remember that slip and slide mattress like it was yesterday, LOL. Thanks guys for the reminder about her. Added to the (short) list again. Actually, wasn't there retirement talk about her? I'm glad she's still around though, and hopefully will be for a while.
I booked a time with Maria the other day. It was as described in the ad. A good massage, no extras. She has a table and a clean room. I remained covered throughout the massage. If you'd like a professional massage with, as of now no extras, hit her up!
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/-amazingly-relaxing-massage-th/905907031040
If you are looking for a hot masseuse, check out Jezebel. She has a very safe upscale in call location in downtown GR. She is a hot 33 yo slender south African babe. Large, natural tits. Shaved kitty and loves to play. She had a nuru blow up mattress in her last place and think she may have it in her current place for nuru. I think the nuru is messy and overrated so I have opted to just use the bed, play and fuck. At first appt did the nuru thing, then showered together and ended up in her bed.
I have seen her many times over the past 3 years. She is dark skinned, hot and loves to give a BBBJCIM, FS (covered or uncovered) and about anything else you desire. Even some BDSM stuff. PM for more details. She does not watch the clock and MSOG are the norm with her. My sessions last at least 2 hours but I am a regular now. YMMV. She is a pleaser and will suck and fuck you dry. She likes a dry white wine which seems to make her quite horny and she really relaxes and produces.
If you get to know her and treat her nice she will deliver in spades. This is one hot fuck guys so if you like a dark-skinned hot babe with huge natural tits who will do most anything I would see her. Her rates are a little bit higher but guaranteed satisfaction. Her BBBJCIM technique is very good. She is a good lay. Tight pussy that tastes good. She has no children. Enjoy and let me know how it works out. $$$ to $$ incall. Slightly more outcall. I've done both and done a couple of overnights with her. Great strip tease to nude in my living room and fucked her on the floor and then again in bed this week. Woke up to her giving me head with BBBJCIM. A dream girl for sure. How many girls will wake up a guy with their mouth? Hard to beat. LOL!
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/real-nuru-massage--let-me-spoi/874508168111She sounds like a LOT of fun. And I really like the idea of a REAL nuru massage. I got Nuru from Brooke of Vegas many many years ago (mmmmm the ass on that one!) And it was very erotic in my opinion. But, as you said, it is very messy. That's why they always use an inflatable mattress for it. They just put it into the shower afterwards to clean it all off. The trick to it though, is that you have to shower BEFORE, and stay wet for the best effect of the gel. And speaking of the gel, it does have to be authentic Nuru gel, not body oil, for it to work properly. It's rather expensive, and so they usually use some other sort of oil instead. It makes a huge difference.
All of this has me floating down memory lane! Has anybody heard from Brooke of Vegas?
Play safe!
Shaw.
BossHog429
09-12-22, 09:56
Good morning Gents.
I haven't been on in a long time. I have spent the last year seeing sugar babies from Seeking and secret benefits. And wow, what a fun year it was. But I have decided to retire. Sorta.
I am hoping someone could help a fellow hobbyist out.
I have decided to semi retire. What that means is I still want to see providers but only for Russian and breast worship sessions.
Not looking for FS. I love big boobs. The SO has perky C's and I need more than that.
So, I am hoping for a provider with D or bigger. Preferably DD.
In my humble opinion, Lauren has the best boobs in GR. However, I have seen Lauren almost 2 dozen times.
So. If anyone has a provider or UTR girl or even a sugar baby they would like yo recommended, I would greatly appreciate it.
A few on my short list are:
Cassidy James.
Ava.
Honey (I don't know if she has reviews or is legit).
Not sure why, but I don't see any ads for Lux bodyworks. Does anyone know if they are closed?
Anyway, any intel would be appreciated gents. Like I said, I am only seeking a provider for breast worship and a Russian finish. I don't mind if a massage is included. LOL.
But preferably D cup and bigger.
Thanks again, and happy hunting gents. Be safe!
Good morning Gents.
I haven't been on in a long time. I have spent the last year seeing sugar babies from Seeking and secret benefits. And wow, what a fun year it was. But I have decided to retire. Sorta.
I am hoping someone could help a fellow hobbyist out.
I have decided to semi retire. What that means is I still want to see providers but only for Russian and breast worship sessions.
Not looking for FS. I love big boobs. The SO has perky C's and I need more than that.
So, I am hoping for a provider with D or bigger. Preferably DD.
In my humble opinion, Lauren has the best boobs in GR. However, I have seen Lauren almost 2 dozen times.
So. If anyone has a provider or UTR girl or even a sugar baby they would like yo recommended, I would greatly appreciate it.
A few on my short list are:
Cassidy James.
Ava.
Honey (I don't know if she has reviews or is legit).
Not sure why, but I don't see any ads for Lux bodyworks. Does anyone know if they are closed?
Anyway, any intel would be appreciated gents. Like I said, I am only seeking a provider for breast worship and a Russian finish. I don't mind if a massage is included. LOL.Definitely Cassidy James. And Phoenix.
She sounds like a LOT of fun. And I really like the idea of a REAL nuru massage. I got Nuru from Brooke of Vegas many many years ago (mmmmm the ass on that one!) And it was very erotic in my opinion. But, as you said, it is very messy. That's why they always use an inflatable mattress for it. They just put it into the shower afterwards to clean it all off. The trick to it though, is that you have to shower BEFORE, and stay wet for the best effect of the gel. And speaking of the gel, it does have to be authentic Nuru gel, not body oil, for it to work properly. It's rather expensive, and so they usually use some other sort of oil instead. It makes a huge difference..I am FB friends with her, and she seems to have gone the way of the crazy train lately. Even recording a call to the police on her FB of her turning in a John that cheated her on an appointment. She is not all there anymore.
Member #6611
09-12-22, 14:09
Good morning Gents.
I haven't been on in a long time. I have spent the last year seeing sugar babies from Seeking and secret benefits. And wow, what a fun year it was. But I have decided to retire. Sorta.
I am hoping someone could help a fellow hobbyist out.
I have decided to semi retire. What that means is I still want to see providers but only for Russian and breast worship sessions.If you enjoy really nice, natural DDs, Ava is great. She's gained a bit of weight in the midsection but is still sexy and puts her tits to excellent use.
BossHog429
09-12-22, 18:03
If you enjoy really nice, natural DDs, Ava is great. She's gained a bit of weight in the midsection but is still sexy and puts her tits to excellent use.Thanks bro!
Yeah,
I have been eyeballing Ava for sometime now. Thanks again.
BossHog429
09-12-22, 18:05
Definitely Cassidy James. And Phoenix.Gene2,
Thanks. I am very excited to see her. I think I will see her first then Ava.
Gentlemen,
Looking to see if anyone knows what happened to Jessi who used to be at BBU. I know she went UTR and she was a favorite of mine. Can't find her number anymore. She was the best at teasing and edging in the business and really cute too. Always got comfortable immediately, great conversationalist, and really erotic. Sensual voice that made me melt. It helps that her hands are magic. Knew exactly how to extract every drop and coax it out with a good amount of post release torture as well. I was putty in her hands. Last I knew, she had a new incall on the west side, saw here there once, but can't find any posts ever since.
If anyone knows how I can reach her again or at least someone who may be able to match her skill, that would be perfect.
Gentlemen,
Looking to see if anyone knows what happened to Jessi who used to be at BBU. I know she went UTR and she was a favorite of mine. Can't find her number anymore. She was the best at teasing and edging in the business and really cute too. Always got comfortable immediately, great conversationalist, and really erotic. Sensual voice that made me melt. It helps that her hands are magic. Knew exactly how to extract every drop and coax it out with a good amount of post release torture as well. I was putty in her hands. Last I knew, she had a new incall on the west side, saw here there once, but can't find any posts ever since.
If anyone knows how I can reach her again or at least someone who may be able to match her skill, that would be perfect.Here's her post from today.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/jessi-/566306944853
Enjoy.
G2.
Gentlemen,
Looking to see if anyone knows what happened to Jessi who used to be at BBU. I know she went UTR and she was a favorite of mine. Can't find her number anymore. She was the best at teasing and edging in the business and really cute too. Always got comfortable immediately, great conversationalist, and really erotic. Sensual voice that made me melt. It helps that her hands are magic. Knew exactly how to extract every drop and coax it out with a good amount of post release torture as well. I was putty in her hands. Last I knew, she had a new incall on the west side, saw here there once, but can't find any posts ever since.
If anyone knows how I can reach her again or at least someone who may be able to match her skill, that would be perfect.Sir, she is posting on STG. https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/jessi-/566306944853.
Good Luck and enjoy.
Sir, she is posting on STG. https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/jessi-/566306944853.
Good Luck and enjoy.Thanks so much! For some reason, that ad didn't show in my feed earlier. Haven't seen an ad from her in months. It's like STG automatically hides some providers? If I just scroll through ads, hers doesn't pop up. But with that link? Takes me right to it! Thanks for the info, my friend!
Folks, feel free to PM me for any questions about her. Lastly, PM me if you know of any other edging specialists!
Moonglow913
09-13-22, 12:25
She sounds like a LOT of fun. And I really like the idea of a REAL nuru massage. I got Nuru from Brooke of Vegas many many years ago (mmmmm the ass on that one!) And it was very erotic in my opinion. But, as you said, it is very messy. That's why they always use an inflatable mattress for it. They just put it into the shower afterwards to clean it all off. The trick to it though, is that you have to shower BEFORE, and stay wet for the best effect of the gel. And speaking of the gel, it does have to be authentic Nuru gel, not body oil, for it to work properly. It's rather expensive, and so they usually use some other sort of oil instead. It makes a huge difference..Memory lane is right. Brooke was one of my favorites. Did duos with her and Kris several times and enjoyed her nuru appointments. Always had us shower first which of course got things going and showered afterwards which only got me "up" for round two of regular fucking back in bed. Great times. She popped up a while back at one of the MP but have seen or heard anything in quite some time.
Well, must say. I've been following and watching the posts through you lads on here, and it gave me a thought of something I should I try. Visited Asian Ivy today, and had a great time. No big time damage, I must be one of the lucky ones? Highly recommend. Looking forward to speaking with you gents and going under your wings as I try this hobby out. Happy hunting.
Been almost months to see little miss Ashley for nice massage, mostly my delays though. Excellent pressure, pleasant giiggly fun. LOL. Will see her again if time permits. Love the ink. Thinkin she will call me to get together again. Spent half the time admiring her perfect little body with my own coconut oi massage therapy. LOL. Told her I charged 50 cent. Fun girl. Meeting her for the first time, wasnt going to push a menu. ? 80/ door rent. ? 160 tip. Plus generous 20. Too much. ? I had fun, is all that matters.I took the plunge at her new private location today. I agree Ashley is giggly and fun, especially if you bring her favorite chocolate, puts her in a great mood right away. Ashley always has a great massage for me, combined with the prostate massage she's been my go to when I feel I need that special touch for Men's Health.
https://www.bensnaturalhealth.com/blog/prostate-massage/
Her new incall is Ava's location too. What a great combination of perfect prostate massage and BBBJCIM with Ava on the Head. The rhythm of both synchronized movements make it epic.
Ava has a nice soft mouth with ball licking and great suction added to the epic experience.
Ava said CBJ is offered but occasionally will BBBJCIM.
I took a shower just before I left the house to see them, good hygiene is critical to getting the most out of any appointment.
I will repeat with both girls.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/ashley-winter/784389257415
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/cum-experience-my-tulips-/567321245286
MichiganMan686
09-13-22, 19:18
Anybody see Berlin lately? Man I miss her. That was one hot piece.
Mm686.
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One of my favs. Retired, but never say never. I think she will make an appearance just for fun to do a few duos.
Anybody see Berlin lately? Man I miss her. That was one hot piece.
Mm686.
Say anything about KIA1 this is what happens.
Member #6286
09-13-22, 21:52
One of my favs. Retired, but never say never. I think she will make an appearance just for fun to do a few duos.I was VIP with her about a year ago then moved away. I'm back and have tried her old number I had for her and no response and no replies. We had texted last about December. So she must have made the decision since then. Very disappointed because she was amazing.
Member #6286
09-13-22, 21:56
I took the plunge at her new private location today. I agree Ashley is giggly and fun, especially if you bring her favorite chocolate, puts her in a great mood right away. Ashley always has a great massage for me, combined with the prostate massage she's been my go to when I feel I need that special touch for Men's Health.
https://www.bensnaturalhealth.com/blog/prostate-massage/
Her new incall is Ava's location too. What a great combination of perfect prostate massage and BBBJCIM with Ava on the Head. The rhythm of both synchronized movements make it epic.
Ava has a nice soft mouth with ball licking and great suction added to the epic experience.
Ava said CBJ is offered but occasionally will BBBJCIM.
I took a shower just before I left the house to see them, good hygiene is critical to getting the most out of any appointment.
I will repeat with both girls.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/ashley-winter/784389257415
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/cum-experience-my-tulips-/567321245286Look at her OF. She will do FS but prob with the right dude and the right price. No girl in this biz does all this and holds the line at FS. It's a question of person and compensation. I hope to have a chance at it and see how it goes.
The talk of LE activity on this forum seems to have died down a lately. I'm curious if this means the LE interest in our hobby has also died down or did we just get tired of talking about it. Job and family commitments have kept me away from the hobby lately so I can't contribute much to the discussion. There was a post recently in the escort section of the Holland forum saying that a provider that a monger on there knows had been contacted by LE wanting to know about STG and how it works. Then a few days later she got an anonymous tip from a number connected to HPD that she should take her ad down because a sting was starting. Any thoughts if this in Holland and the increased interest in GR are related? The BBU website is up and running, but I have noticed one change. It used to be that when you went on there, you could log in. I think it said "your account". That seems to be gone and now when you go to book the appointment it asks for your info (hopefully no one uses real names and we're all smart enough to have hobby phones or other arrangements--just pointing out this change on the website). I'd welcome any feedback, especially from those who've been to BBU, the Den, or other places recently. Does it seem like things have died down? I hope to be back in the game soon as far as time and commitments go, but I'm trying to be smart too. Hope we're all staying safe and off the radar of LE.
Charlie441
09-14-22, 08:11
This was an interesting endeavor, as pointed out in the Craigslist section. A quaint personal massage & haircut place out by 44th street. She aims for seniors only and emphasizes that, but didn't see it in her ad. So if you're not middle-aged at least, I wouldn't think about pushing the envelope.
Anyway, the setup was nice, just a 1 person "shop", small house converted into doing haircuts with a massage setup. The massage 'room' is a setup near the front door and not much blockage from that entrance into the living room next to it. But I assume she locks the door when a customer comes in for the massage.
Anyway, I got comfortable and laid down, she's very talkative, later middle aged hispanic woman who looks good for her age. The massage was decent and that seems to be her main aim, which is good for those who have that as a priority. Before the flip it was standard but some teasing. Then on the flip I didn't have to motion much for her to catch on to take care of Mr Happy. At that point she didn't mind a little touching, but I kept that on the PG-rated level, as she didn't seem like the type who'd like grabby guys throughout the massage (as she sorta stated how she gets weird guys sometimes; she's very talkative BTW), and I think that's a good thing on a 1st visit.
It was $60 for 30 m, but didn't seem to expect tip (left $20) tho. Good for guys who are older, and looking for a decent massage and a rub and tug. As the other poster on the Craigslist section pointed out, being a younger guy is not something you'll easily bypass, apparently. Really nice lady tho, treat her well.
https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-kings-lounge-mens-haircuts/7527167547.html
The talk of LE activity on this forum seems to have died down a lately. I'm curious if this means the LE interest in our hobby has also died down or did we just get tired of talking about it. Job and family commitments have kept me away from the hobby lately so I can't contribute much to the discussion. There was a post recently in the escort section of the Holland forum saying that a provider that a monger on there knows had been contacted by LE wanting to know about STG and how it works. Then a few days later she got an anonymous tip from a number connected to HPD that she should take her ad down because a sting was starting. Any thoughts if this in Holland and the increased interest in GR are related? The BBU website is up and running, but I have noticed one change. It used to be that when you went on there, you could log in. I think it said "your account". That seems to be gone and now when you go to book the appointment it asks for your info (hopefully no one uses real names and we're all smart enough to have hobby phones or other arrangements--just pointing out this change on the website). I'd welcome any feedback, especially from those who've been to BBU, the Den, or other places recently. Does it seem like things have died down? I hope to be back in the game soon as far as time and commitments go, but I'm trying to be smart too. Hope we're all staying safe and off the radar of LE.Been an interesting time here on the boards. The lessons learned for me have been that I am best served to take some precautions like only seeing known providers with good reviews. And to park away from the location and perhaps visit another business after the deed but before returning to my car. Not that I or the facility are targets, more that it's better to be abundantly safe.
It's also worthy of note the women are much more of a target to any LE than the male clients are. The women have good reason to be cautious as well. Perhaps only seeing regular clients or requiring the client to state what he wants (so they can avoid LE entrapment). It doesn't appear there is any ongoing undercover investigations nor any stake outs. Just the one report here of an angry wife complaint to local PD. It does seem any investigation usually involves AMPs as they make "trafficking" headlines that make PD seem honorable and protective. However the whole Robert Kraft incident taught us the police and prosecutors are the actual liars and manipulators. Thank goodness he had money available to expose and embarrass those behind that effort.
It's also interesting to see some more libertarian leaning prosecutors avoid sex for sale cases altogether. Washtenaw county here in Michigan is one that has publicly stated this. And likely other counties (including Kent) have an unpublished policy that is similar but they don't publicize it out of concern of the moral minority outcry.
So. Enjoy your visits. Park discreetly. And reassure the provider you are there for fun.
Enjoy.
G2.
ChastD1959
09-14-22, 10:02
Look at her OF. She will do FS but prob with the right dude and the right price. No girl in this biz does all this and holds the line at FS. It's a question of person and compensation. I hope to have a chance at it and see how it goes.Do you have a link or username for her OF?
Do you have a link or username for her OF?https://onlyfans.com/bipolar_barbie41
Been an interesting time here on the boards. The lessons learned for me have been that I am best served to take some precautions like only seeing known providers with good reviews. And to park away from the location and perhaps visit another business after the deed but before returning to my car. Not that I or the facility are targets, more that it's better to be abundantly safe.
It's also worthy of note the women are much more of a target to any LE than the male clients are. The women have good reason to be cautious as well. Perhaps only seeing regular clients or requiring the client to state what he wants (so they can avoid LE entrapment). It doesn't appear there is any ongoing undercover investigations nor any stake outs. Just the one report here of an angry wife complaint to local PD. It does seem any investigation usually involves AMPs as they make "trafficking" headlines that make PD seem honorable and protective. However the whole Robert Kraft incident taught us the police and prosecutors are the actual liars and manipulators. Thank goodness he had money available to expose and embarrass those behind that effort.
It's also interesting to see some more libertarian leaning prosecutors avoid sex for sale cases altogether. Washtenaw county here in Michigan is one that has publicly stated this. And likely other counties (including Kent) have an unpublished policy that is similar but they don't publicize it out of concern of the moral minority outcry.
So. Enjoy your visits. Park discreetly. And reassure the provider you are there for fun.
Enjoy.
G2.All of this being true.
You didn't say if you've Paid a visit to BBU lately.
I think someone who has visited is the update RaulJulia and the rest of us were hoping for.
I had a visit with the beautiful Milan about a week ago and it was fantastic as usual. She has been my go to for some time and I can't say enough good things about her. All of the other posts for her are spot on. The only problem is I don't get to see her more often. However, during our visit she informed me that Alley (whom I have posted about previously) is no longer in the business and has moved on to better things. I only had a couple visits with her but she was fantastic and will absolutely be missed. Milan taught her well and I hope some of you were able to experience her while she was around. I wish her all the best.
Stay safe folks!
Ben.
All of this being true.
You didn't say if you've Paid a visit to BBU lately.
I think someone who has visited is the update RaulJulia and the rest of us were hoping for.My return to the Great Lakes state will commence with multiple visits to Lauren and the girls at the Den. Next up will be with Milan, the all star from your favorite haunt. After that I will reach out to Bbu to reconnect there.
Unless I add in your recent recommendation to BossHog. I see you personally recommended Bella to him. We would like more details from you about her. How many times have you seen her? What's her menu like? Is she attractive? I know BossHog, RaulJulia, and the rest of the community are eagerly awaiting the details about your intimate visits with Bella.
Thank you in advance for providing exciting details of your sessions with Bella. If those details are as enticing as I anticipate them, I may even move Bella up in the priority must-see list. After Lauren of course. And probably multiple visits with Lauren.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/590382176133
Enjoy.
G2.
Love The Lips
09-14-22, 14:51
This was an interesting endeavor, as pointed out in the Craigslist section. A quaint personal massage & haircut place out by 44th street. She aims for seniors only and emphasizes that, but didn't see it in her ad. So if you're not middle-aged at least, I wouldn't think about pushing the envelope.
Anyway, the setup was nice, just a 1 person "shop", small house converted into doing haircuts with a massage setup. The massage 'room' is a setup near the front door and not much blockage from that entrance into the living room next to it. But I assume she locks the door when a customer comes in for the massage.
Anyway, I got comfortable and laid down, she's very talkative, later middle aged hispanic woman who looks good for her age. The massage was decent and that seems to be her main aim, which is good for those who have that as a priority. Before the flip it was standard but some teasing. Then on the flip I didn't have to motion much for her to catch on to take care of Mr Happy. At that point she didn't mind a little touching, but I kept that on the PG-rated level, as she didn't seem like the type who'd like grabby guys throughout the massage (as she sorta stated how she gets weird guys sometimes; she's very talkative BTW), and I think that's a good thing on a 1st visit.Is she as attractive as her pics? Her chest looks great! I wonder if her massage is on par with Sweets? Did it seem like she's had massage training? Was the HJ nice or did it seem mechanical? Thanks.
ChastD1959
09-14-22, 15:28
https://onlyfans.com/bipolar_barbie41$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?
https://onlyfans.com/bipolar_barbie41I subscribed once. She posted very very infrequently.
$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?Wow. So for $40 a month one would expect a lot of content. Let's see. September - 3 posts. August - 2 posts. July - 3 posts. June - 2 posts. May - 0 posts. April - 0 posts. March - 3 posts.
P T Barnum had something to say on this subject. If only I was glib enough to remember it's essence. Maybe an actual subscriber or promoter can tell us what's in the OF posts to make them of value. All of us here need to know. Remember the needs of the community here please.
Enjoy, huh?
G2.
$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?We should ask her for a team discount.
$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?Isn't she the one who'd post videos of her having sex with clients? At that price, I'm not buying, but I'm curious what might be in there to entice 17 dudes to subscribe.
Just like highly priced VHS tapes and DVDs built the titans of the rental industry, then DVD movie sales exploded only after Hollywood stumbled on the huge advantage of selling for a much lower price, I'd be willing to guess Winter could make more money at lower, more typical price. Heck, keep the $40 tier for "premium" content, like her eating chocolate.
I had a visit with the beautiful Milan about a week ago and it was fantastic as usual. She has been my go to for some time and I can't say enough good things about her. All of the other posts for her are spot on. The only problem is I don't get to see her more often. However, during our visit she informed me that Alley (whom I have posted about previously) is no longer in the business and has moved on to better things. I only had a couple visits with her but she was fantastic and will absolutely be missed. Milan taught her well and I hope some of you were able to experience her while she was around. I wish her all the best.Is this her?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/hott-massage-with-ally/787878847694
If so, maybe another good option.
This was an interesting endeavor, as pointed out in the Craigslist section. A quaint personal massage & haircut place out by 44th street. She aims for seniors only and emphasizes that, but didn't see it in her ad. So if you're not middle-aged at least, I wouldn't think about pushing the envelope.
Anyway, the setup was nice, just a 1 person "shop", small house converted into doing haircuts with a massage setup. The massage 'room' is a setup near the front door and not much blockage from that entrance into the living room next to it. But I assume she locks the door when a customer comes in for the massage.
Anyway, I got comfortable and laid down, she's very talkative, later middle aged hispanic woman who looks good for her age. The massage was decent and that seems to be her main aim, which is good for those who have that as a priority. Before the flip it was standard but some teasing. Then on the flip I didn't have to motion much for her to catch on to take care of Mr Happy. At that point she didn't mind a little touching, but I kept that on the PG-rated level, as she didn't seem like the type who'd like grabby guys throughout the massage (as she sorta stated how she gets weird guys sometimes; she's very talkative BTW), and I think that's a good thing on a 1st visit.
It was $60 for 30 m, but didn't seem to expect tip (left $20) tho. Good for guys who are older, and looking for a decent massage and a rub and tug. As the other poster on the Craigslist section pointed out, being a younger guy is not something you'll easily bypass, apparently. Really nice lady tho, treat her well.
https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/grand-rapids-kings-lounge-mens-haircuts/7527167547.htmlThanks for the review. I've been curious about her. Did she get comfortable at all? She has a couple of close-up shots of those nice looking ta-tas covered in her CL ad. I was hopeful you get to see them uncovered if you book a massage with her.
My return to the Great Lakes state will commence with multiple visits to Lauren and the girls at the Den. Next up will be with Milan, the all star from your favorite haunt. After that I will reach out to Bbu to reconnect there.
Unless I add in your recent recommendation to BossHog. I see you personally recommended Bella to him.
G2.I said I'd toss in Bella for his search.
With all your mumbo jumbo, you lost the purpose of my response to BossHog.
Bosshog was the only one asking about double D tits, I provided a picture I took of Bella's Double D for his Russian excursion.
A few months ago you seem to think and posted that most of us drive trucks and that since most trucks are red you assumed that HangLow3 was guessing at what you drive. Where do you come up with all this shit.
Now you try to change the meaning of me sending a picture to Bosshog.
You're Laughable.
Just keep rewriting shit, you might get it right,
someday.
Go head and make up stuff about yourself but when quoting others Posting facts would be preferred
We should ask her for a team discount.But with the limited content it would seem $5 a month to pay would actually be too much. Or have I failed to account for inflation? She's an attractive woman, but not seeing $40 a month or even close to that would be reasonable. How much of a discount could you get for the team? Thanks for helping. I appreciate your efforts.
G2.
So since there's nothing to be concerned about and all where did all the daily gushing BBU posts go?
Months of posts, many by mongers with 10 posts with some exceptions, raving about paying 180 then tipping for a HJ. Now I see zilch. Has anyone seen a provider there recently? Is it safe? Are the investigation reports bogus?
Happy to report the ladies are all in great spirits to provide us all what we need and desire. What a lineup! High quality providers and bargain pricing! And lots of variety. A great spot for all of us who truly want to see beautiful women.
I see that Hunter herself is making an appearance. Apparently she is working all day Friday and what a way to start a weekend. Plenty of action and enjoyable banter. She is the real deal. She is a firecracker and is well worth the effort to get approved and see her. She is highly reviewed here with an overwhelming percentage of supporters here. We all relish our time with her.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter-/750806347479
Enjoy.
G2.
Gatorade1972
09-14-22, 21:16
Happy to report the ladies are all in great spirits to provide us all what we need and desire. What a lineup! High quality providers and bargain pricing! And lots of variety. A great spot for all of us who truly want to see beautiful women.
I see that Hunter herself is making an appearance. Apparently she is working all day Friday and what a way to start a weekend. Plenty of action and enjoyable banter. She is the real deal. She is a firecracker and is well worth the effort to get approved and see her. She is highly reviewed here with an overwhelming percentage of supporters here. We all relish our time with her.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/-hunter-/750806347479
Enjoy.
G2.Any idea if / when they are going to take any new clientele. Their adds says previous clients only.
Any idea if / when they are going to take any new clientele. Their adds says previous clients only.Reach out to Hunter via TEXT tomorrow during normal business hours. Not phone call. Let her know you want to see her. Tell her you saw her recommended here and read her stg post. Offer a few references of providers you've seen. Perhaps let her know you are a senior member here.
With the recent scares in the area, many of the providers are very cautious. Keep in mind that they are typically more at risk for LE stings than we male clients are. So reassure her that you're not LE and ask what you can do to see her. She wants to see new clients, but has to be safe. For her and the other beautiful ladies there. Be patient and forthright. You'll make the cut then.
PM for other suggestions. She's worth the extra effort!
Enjoy.
G2.
I wonder if the Victoria Charlie441 saw is Tori from older days? Circa 2015. She had an office in the old building at the KZoo /32nd Street intersection. Tall ish Mexican lady with map of Mexico tramp stamp. Her name was Victoria and she was a licensed hair cutter and did massage too. Used to advertise as Studio 125 massage.
Hollywood55
09-15-22, 00:11
I had a visit with the beautiful Milan about a week ago and it was fantastic as usual. She has been my go to for some time and I can't say enough good things about her. All of the other posts for her are spot on. The only problem is I don't get to see her more often. However, during our visit she informed me that Alley (whom I have posted about previously) is no longer in the business and has moved on to better things. I only had a couple visits with her but she was fantastic and will absolutely be missed. Milan taught her well and I hope some of you were able to experience her while she was around. I wish her all the best.
Stay safe folks!
Ben.BenNorth,
It was great seeing you again. Thank you so very much for the compliments. I pm'd you! Hope all is well!
Milan.
StevesMilin
09-15-22, 07:43
I wonder if the Victoria Charlie441 saw is Tori from older days? Circa 2015. She had an office in the old building at the KZoo /32nd Street intersection. Tall ish Mexican lady with map of Mexico tramp stamp. Her name was Victoria and she was a licensed hair cutter and did massage too. Used to advertise as Studio 125 massage.I don't believe that is Tori. I saw her often. She was great. BBFS if you were lucky. Nice office location.
I last saw her a couple of years ago. She cut back on her menu in deference to her BF at the time.
Maybe I'll check in with her if her old number is active.
Ss.
New to GR and just saw this post and can't find any information on thi beautiful young lady. Anyone have news?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/madison-/559441520785
Gatorade1972
09-15-22, 08:56
Reach out to Hunter via TEXT tomorrow during normal business hours. Not phone call. Let her know you want to see her. Tell her you saw her recommended here and read her stg post. Offer a few references of providers you've seen. Perhaps let her know you are a senior member here.
With the recent scares in the area, many of the providers are very cautious. Keep in mind that they are typically more at risk for LE stings than we male clients are. So reassure her that you're not LE and ask what you can do to see her. She wants to see new clients, but has to be safe. For her and the other beautiful ladies there. Be patient and forthright. You'll make the cut then.
PM for other suggestions. She's worth the extra effort!
Enjoy.
G2.Thanks Gene.
Seems there has been some effort to discredit the guys who have reported an investigation, maybe obfuscating things a bit to make it sound like it was sour grapes posting by one guy. But LMoe is one of the guys who has reported it, and he was a frequent customer and enthusiastic poster about the girls at BBU so doesn't seem like he would have ulterior motives. And he states Both customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives. Sounds like he has more than a passing knowledge that this has been taking place, or is he just pissed about something that happened at BBU?The drama and certain posters propensity to argue for the sake of arguing is why I haven't been around lately. There's a reason so many members of this board only read reviews and rarely (sometimes never) post. My sole motivation for my post was simply to encourage fellow mongers to use common safe appointment practices. The BBU girls are the best, they set the standard, and I wish them nothing but the best. If you don't believe me that's fine, I don't know any of you IRL, but save everyone else the drama of arguing or attempting to discredit just to be a fuckwit.
Thanks Gene.Text only. Do not contact until you are ready to commit. Do not be fickle or send multiple texts. When life happens and you have to make a change, while understandable most places, it may not play out well at the Den!!
Found that out the hard way that a tire blowout is not a good excuse. Hope to get back into their good graces someday.
BenNorth,
It was great seeing you again. Thank you so very much for the compliments. I pm'd you! Hope all is well!
Milan.Milan is alive and well. She's providing highly rated massage services. If you have her contact phone number, texting is best way to reach her. If you don't have contact number, you can PM her on this board (Hollywood55) or PM those of us who have reviewed her here recently. We will have that contact number.
Enjoy.
G2.
MichiganMan686
09-15-22, 13:03
Had a great session with Milan. Great rub. Just a beautiful girl. Got all my time. Great finish as well. Can't wait till I get back to GR again to link up. Just a great girl. Mm686.
I've never seen this ad before today, but if the pictures are accurate, she's my type. Anyone sampled her massage skills yet? If not, I may just TOFTT. Be safe.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/ready-to-please/060279579537
Your mailbox is full.
Had a great session with Milan. Great rub. Just a beautiful girl. Got all my time. Great finish as well. Can't wait till I get back to GR again to link up. Just a great girl. Mm686..
Thanks for the review. I've been curious about her. Did she get comfortable at all? She has a couple of close-up shots of those nice looking ta-tas covered in her CL ad. I was hopeful you get to see them uncovered if you book a massage with her.Much of the same for me but she told me no touching (not sure why I was showered clean and fit and respectful) nice boobs wanted to feel them bad probably won't be back because of that.
I've never seen this ad before today, but if the pictures are accurate, she's my type. Anyone sampled her massage skills yet? If not, I may just TOFTT. Be safe.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/ready-to-please/060279579537Pretty sure this is Linda from Meditation Station. I haven't seen her personally so perhaps others who have can weigh in. But she's been reviewed on here and the reviews of both her and Meditation Station are generally not great.
Much of the same for me but she told me no touching (not sure why I was showered clean and fit and respectful) nice boobs wanted to feel them bad probably won't be back because of that.Sorry to hear that. She sure showcases them prominently in her CL ad just to be keeping them to herself. Oh well. Good to know. Thanks for the report.
MichiganMan686
09-15-22, 20:53
Your mailbox is full.
.Please reply I'm cleared. Mm686.
Pretty sure this is Linda from Meditation Station. I haven't seen her personally so perhaps others who have can weigh in. But she's been reviewed on here and the reviews of both her and Meditation Station are generally not great.Reviews on them are very inviting, she's on my bucket list for sure.
Pretty sure this is Linda from Meditation Station. I haven't seen her personally so perhaps others who have can weigh in. But she's been reviewed on here and the reviews of both her and Meditation Station are generally not great.Its definitely Linds phone number.
Stop by for a massage. Tonight the women were 50+. Good massage good attitude options on the table I didn't take but she's so experienced, You kind of wonder.
I've never seen this ad before today, but if the pictures are accurate, she's my type. Anyone sampled her massage skills yet? If not, I may just TOFTT. Be safe.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/ready-to-please/060279579537Last time I saw her was a couple years ago. She actually has good massage skills, and did a good CBJ and cfs.
Saw Brit from bbu this week not at her usual parlor but at a new downtown location. According to her the LE presence has only been because the barbershop isn't licensed yet and will take some time to get it, so she and the girl might have to rent a new spot for a month until they get their licenses.
I saw no LE didn't get pulled over or get followed by an unmarked car. (I think idk the whole point of unmarked Le cars is so no one can tell).
If I get picked up anytime soon I let y'all know but for now I'm free as a bird.
The appointment went really well it self but there's enough reviews of her.
No that is not the same Ally that was previously at Serenity. This one looks amazing and has more tattoos but is not the same. I got the impression from Milan that she left the business entirely but I could be wrong.
Ben.
Is this her?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/hott-massage-with-ally/787878847694
If so, maybe another good option.
Mongerlian
09-16-22, 14:08
$40 a month!? Is she out of her mind?Ashley winter overcharging for subpar product? Say it isn't so! Come on now, you can't possibly be surprised.
Member #6286
09-17-22, 10:04
I'm back in town and thanks to a couple fellow mongers here I got hold of Brit again and got the update on happenings. Decided to visit the new place and booked Raven. Awesome intro, I really liked her and typical highly rated BBU service. Anyway, new location is ok, not as nice as other one, but they are working on it to make it better. I may have been the first one to use that place, LOL. They are trying to fix it till the other place gets licensed. But it was fine. Anyway, no LE and no issues. I would visit again.
GR has very limited choices compared to some other bigger cities where I work. So we need to protect what we have here that's good.
Don't state inspectors, inspect barbershops and not LEO?
Haven't been since my fav left but was hoping to see saje. I like there is a new location
Saw Brit from bbu this week not at her usual parlor but at a new downtown location. According to her the LE presence has only been because the barbershop isn't licensed yet and will take some time to get it, so she and the girl might have to rent a new spot for a month until they get their licenses.
I saw no LE didn't get pulled over or get followed by an unmarked car. (I think idk the whole point of unmarked Le cars is so no one can tell).
If I get picked up anytime soon I let y'all know but for now I'm free as a bird.
The appointment went really well it self but there's enough reviews of her..
Fe Sideoiler
09-17-22, 12:59
Did a walk in to Oriental Magic Hands on Michigan St after receiving a text about a pretty new masseur earlier this week. Couldn't find the time until Saturday morning. Greeted at the door by a mid 40's Asian named Ama or Alma or maybe Ima. She was the masseur and I found her pretty in a kind of plain Jane way. Half hour for .4. Massage was so so but teasing was plentiful. She giggled a lot and was very friendly. On the flip I asked for oral and she said 1.6. I found it hard to understand some things she said but finally agreed to 1.0 for topless HE. Pricey but in hindsight it was a very good HE. Roaming on top but she was wearing those very tight bottoms that are impenetrable it seems. Very nice rack but she didn't like biting on her nipples. She was very sweet though. I'll probably repeat. Pretty sure I could have the same experience for .6 tip. Working on my negotiating skills.
Sorry to hear that. She sure showcases them prominently in her CL ad just to be keeping them to herself. Oh well. Good to know. Thanks for the report.I've seen this Ad you mention by Victoria. I would love to see her too, but not if she doesn't want to let the girls out to play.
There are others on CL nowadays. It seems content moderation is not as strict since Backpage went under, or something--because I see a lot of ads under the Health / Wellness section on CL.
Others to try are Touched, Massage By Sarah. She might be good, mobile, comes to you.
Afiyah skin care lady. And the cuddle chick in Rockford. Just food for thought. I know I'll be TOFTT soon enough from one of them.
I don't review much or add to already well know providers. This one I thought I had seen post while back, but maybe not?. Didn't see anything reviewed, so what the heck let's take a drive.
Communicating was so-so. Took awhile to get to a time and the address. So maybe she was busy or maybe just like most providers and can't really complete a thought.
Did some general questions with her to see what was provided or what was not. My bad for assuming more for what I was paying. $. 20 hh. Get there and it's quiet building not much else other than it's shared with few some businesses. None were around on this weekend.
Greater at the door, wearing plain clothes, looks like what was advertised. So I proceeded to the room. She asks for the money up front. I broke the rule and gave it to her. Room is like any other room. Chair and the table. Loud radio (that was annoying). She leave and take 5 mins maybe to get back. Fully clothed. Then this is where things went from optimism to disappointment. Slaps some oils on the back and legs. Whole 10 mins then it's ready to flip she asks. Umm I guess. So over I go and we'll are you getting comfy. Oh no that costs more. I say what about the few things I mentioned early and you assured me come in "we will have fun"? Well no that was not the case. She did plop her tits over the shirt. Ok something but still not what I was assuming (never assume right). So again I ask so no mutual playing, tits get put away with a tone of what did you expect?
So as she is saying hi to Junior as if he is some alien from another planet is flat out ask so what's the full treatment run?
$400 yep $400 lmao. So now I am just ready to be done and leave. She keeps going gets the job finished but with out walking already over to the towels and junior is still spilling his Brains LOL.
Got dressed left and will never go back. Lack lust and just plain lazy or just herd us cattle In as many as one can.
Stay safe.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/roosie-/475481918161
I've seen this Ad you mention by Victoria. I would love to see her too, but not if she doesn't want to let the girls out to play.
There are others on CL nowadays. It seems content moderation is not as strict since Backpage went under, or something--because I see a lot of ads under the Health / Wellness section on CL.
Others to try are Touched, Massage By Sarah. She might be good, mobile, comes to you.
Afiyah skin care lady. And the cuddle chick in Rockford. Just food for thought. I know I'll be TOFTT soon enough from one of them.I wonder if the Massage by Sarah advertised on CL is the same as the one in this link? I've been curious if there's anything more offered than just legit massage with this one. Please report back on any you try and let us know.
https://massagebysarah.com/
I wonder if the Massage by Sarah advertised on CL is the same as the one in this link? I've been curious if there's anything more offered than just legit massage with this one. Please report back on any you try and let us know.
https://massagebysarah.com/I'm not certain if it is the same Sarah. But I want to say they are two different ladies.
The CL Sarah looks younger and slimmer, and her rates are not as high as the professional website Sarah.
I will investigate, and hope to report back soon.
I wonder if the Massage by Sarah advertised on CL is the same as the one in this link? I've been curious if there's anything more offered than just legit massage with this one. Please report back on any you try and let us know.
https://massagebysarah.com/Has different numbers.
Does anybody remember seeing this one before? I saw her a little over a year ago. Then she seemed to drop out of the hobby. I can't find any current or even semi-recent ads for her anywhere. Texting the phone number just gets crickets. I'd love to see her again and just wondering if she's still around. Thanks.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/book-lily-feel-like-a-new-you-highly-experienced/36205863
Charlie441
09-18-22, 16:03
Thanks for the review. I've been curious about her. Did she get comfortable at all? She has a couple of close-up shots of those nice looking ta-tas covered in her CL ad. I was hopeful you get to see them uncovered if you book a massage with her.I didn't motion for her to get comfortable or anything. She was in a hurry due to some stuff going on and it was near her closing time as well.
Is she as attractive as her pics? Her chest looks great! I wonder if her massage is on par with Sweets? Did it seem like she's had massage training? Was the HJ nice or did it seem mechanical? Thanks.I would say the 2nd picture is more reflective of her chest, but I cannot verify either way. She was a bit in a hurry, but then again, I was wanting to just get to the end part anyway. It wasn't a totally rushed experience at all, don't get me wrong. But during it she pointed out how some guys are too grabby + she was apologizing how she had to go soon when things kicked off. I would guess she would get comfortable if she liked you on a 2nd or 3rd visit.
Charlie441
09-18-22, 16:13
I wonder if the Victoria Charlie441 saw is Tori from older days? Circa 2015. She had an office in the old building at the KZoo /32nd Street intersection. Tall ish Mexican lady with map of Mexico tramp stamp. Her name was Victoria and she was a licensed hair cutter and did massage too. Used to advertise as Studio 125 massage.I was thinking the same thing, although I never saw Tori. Wouldn't surprise me. She's latino, but wasn't notably tall (nor short at all) and she had a whole hair machine thing in the back. Dunno!
First off it was kind of amusing for me that her place was the same place my family had gotten haircuts when I was a kid.
Warm and chatty personality but not overboard. Prior reviews said she only sees "seniors". Bringing it up during small talk she basically means no young, immature guys (ex. 20's 30's) who have no concept of discretion. She thought I was in my 40's (I am) and she was fine with that.
The massage was really good, I believe she mentioned she had her certificate. She turned up the teasing, subtle at first, then started almost milking while she of made aroused humming sounds. When she invited me to flip she was already topless. Started out slow. Did a pseudo-prostate thing, then she really cranked up the intensity including the dirty talk. Allowed as much free roaming as possible with her jeans on. Overall one of the better massages I had, will repeat.
Sure sounds like Tori. "Hair Machine", in a rush, humming / moaning, etc. Only thing missing is confirmation of the Mexico Tramp Stamp or reports of her being shitface drunk!
I imagine she's going to be busy after the publicity here. But, I'll check her out sometime.
Member #6603
09-19-22, 06:41
Has different numbers.Anyone see Sarah in "Massage by Sarah"? She looks like a very beautiful Woman.
Sure sounds like Tori. "Hair Machine", in a rush, humming / moaning, etc. Only thing missing is confirmation of the Mexico Tramp Stamp or reports of her being shitface drunk!
I imagine she's going to be busy after the publicity here. But, I'll check her out sometime.Couldn't tell if she was drunk but from the smell she had definitely been toking.
SimonPieMan
09-19-22, 10:00
Sure sounds like Tori. "Hair Machine", in a rush, humming / moaning, etc. Only thing missing is confirmation of the Mexico Tramp Stamp or reports of her being shitface drunk!
I imagine she's going to be busy after the publicity here. But, I'll check her out sometime.If it actually is Tori, I'm definitely seeing her when I'm up for Thanksgiving. She sure knows how to gobble a turkey neck!
SP.
Happy to report the ladies are all in great spirits to provide us all what we need and desire. What a lineup! High quality providers and bargain pricing! And lots of variety. A great spot for all of us who truly want to see beautiful women.
I see that Hunter herself is making an appearance. Apparently she is working all day Friday and what a way to start a weekend. Plenty of action and enjoyable banter. She is the real deal. She is a firecracker and is well worth the effort to get approved and see her. She is highly reviewed here with an overwhelming percentage of supporters here. We all relish our time with her. .Thanks for the great recommendation. Will give her a try in the future.
Any intel on this one?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/its-monday-come-relax-with-me-/025643098969
NeedInfoOnThem
09-19-22, 17:31
Ok gents this is a long shot but I'm coming from nc to like Sparta area everything down by me is dead ends or 50+ year olds in AMP and I want something different finally I just got out of usmc and don't want to waist a opportunity to get something done until my last night and have no luck. I'm mid 20's so it's a long shot but if someone can point me to more than just a plain rub and tug hoping for FS but I need something hot and not the same bs I have down here only in town for a few days something UTR or even just pointing to a good time and not a disappointment inbox is open. Happy hunting.
I got lucky enough to see Hunter recently. She's a friendly woman and easy to talk to, which is something I value. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her. There's not really much I can say that hasn't been said already. If you get a chance to see her, consider taking it.
Ok gents this is a long shot but I'm coming from nc to like Sparta area everything down by me is dead ends or 50+ year olds in AMP and I want something different finally I just got out of usmc and don't want to waist a opportunity to get something done until my last night and have no luck. I'm mid 20's so it's a long shot but if someone can point me to more than just a plain rub and tug hoping for FS but I need something hot and not the same bs I have down here only in town for a few days something UTR or even just pointing to a good time and not a disappointment inbox is open. Happy hunting.Welcome to the best side of the state. Or should I say the west side of the state. If you are looking for full service, why not go the escort route? Plenty of great recommendations on that thread. If you are preferring the massage leading to FS you have a few options. However given you won't likely have references in this area it does limit you somewhat. Therefore it would seem you want massage leading to FS with no screening. That sounds like luxe for you. You need to call not text them. Usually phones get answered starting at 10:00 am. I've never been there (I have my favorites) but they are favorably reviewed here, albeit a bit mechanical and pricey.
It definitely will surpass your 50-60 year old providers at AMP that you referenced.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/tuesday--come-relax-today--new/282391178421
Enjoy.
G2.
Ok gents this is a long shot but I'm coming from nc to like Sparta area everything down by me is dead ends or 50+ year olds in AMP and I want something different finally I just got out of usmc and don't want to waist a opportunity to get something done until my last night and have no luck. I'm mid 20's so it's a long shot but if someone can point me to more than just a plain rub and tug hoping for FS but I need something hot and not the same bs I have down here only in town for a few days something UTR or even just pointing to a good time and not a disappointment inbox is open. Happy hunting.North side of Grand Rapids. This provider could be your closest option to Sparta.
Location is very secluded and parking is easy.
This link claims FS offered.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/its-monday-come-relax-with-me-/025643098969
North side of Grand Rapids. This provider could be your closest option to Sparta.
Location is very secluded and parking is easy.
This link claims FS offered.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/its-monday-come-relax-with-me-/025643098969Agree. Though from my experience, I would not recommend. If you do see if you can get 15 minutes, because that is her goal.
StillSeek BJ
09-20-22, 13:24
I had a chance to stop by Pancea recently during the day. I had a good experience the last time so I thought why not. Another member here spoke of getting ladies on top and barely dressed for his pleasure so I was intrigued. I got there and some lucky bastard was already getting a four hand massage so I had to wait for someone to arrive. I drew Melissa again. She is very talented with her hands and built fairly nice. I got to play with the twins a bit but there was no indication of any willingness to get her bottoms off. She cleaned me and the room up afterward. Very nice stop overall but limited menu. Maybe others have better luck or I am just old and ugly which is probably the case. Those who have SO's at home should be aware of massage oil smells and residue afterward. I could smell it until I showered.
Be safe everyone.
Agree. Though from my experience, I would not recommend. If you do see if you can get 15 minutes, because that is her goal.I agree totally.
I wouldn't recommend anyone going to a salon looking for FS. It won't likely be a good massage, what is he looking for?
My guess he's looking for FS without going to a sketchy motel or risking drug, BF or pimp interaction. In and out quick and sleezy. It probably won't be much different than an escort short stay except the price. Pay 2 or 3 times as much for the same service at a salon.
Maybe the protection of a salon (avoiding BF) is worth it to him.
LandRover20
09-20-22, 16:36
Curious about this one: https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/belmont-healing-mind-body-spirit-healing/7528229821.html.
Rates aren't cheap. Would hate to show up and have her be obese or something.
Curious about this one: https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/belmont-healing-mind-body-spirit-healing/7528229821.html.
Rates aren't cheap. Would hate to show up and have her be obese or something.I drive by often, if it was walk in I'd go tomorrow.
I'll call tomorrow and see what's up.
They're not asking for verification pics so far, that will be a deal breaker.
I had a chance to stop by Pancea recently during the day. I had a good experience the last time so I thought why not. Another member here spoke of getting ladies on top and barely dressed for his pleasure so I was intrigued. I got there and some lucky bastard was already getting a four hand massage so I had to wait for someone to arrive. I drew Melissa again. She is very talented with her hands and built fairly nice. I got to play with the twins a bit but there was no indication of any willingness to get her bottoms off. She cleaned me and the room up afterward. Very nice stop overall but limited menu. Maybe others have better luck or I am just old and ugly which is probably the case. Those who have SO's at home should be aware of massage oil smells and residue afterward. I could smell it until I showered.
Be safe everyone.Has anyone been offered FS at this place.
Has anyone seen the new girls at Luxe yet? Specifically Layla and Autumn?
Thanks.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/75hr-40hh-specials-tuesday-onl/549806139188
Got a hair cut today. Very nice cut and massage. Yes they are nice and real. No clock watching she was little late and definitely made up for it. Will return.
Broadway Jay
09-20-22, 22:21
I've see Layla twice. She's freaking awesome. See review 14586. Only downside is the actual massage isn't really her strong point.
Has anyone seen the new girls at Luxe yet? Specifically Layla and Autumn?
Thanks.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/75hr-40hh-specials-tuesday-onl/549806139188
I've see Layla twice. She's freaking awesome. See review 14586. Only downside is the actual massage isn't really her strong point.No one goes to Luxe for the massage.
Went and saw Bella (working out of britts old place on 28th) I was hoping for something more like Berlin. A little disappointed but overall a good experience. Little bit older and a little bit heavier than I was expecting decent massage on the flip got comfortable right away. Everything covered. A little pricier than laura and CJ. But every now and then I like to try some new. Would possibly repeat.
Has anyone been offered FS at this place.No. Reports are consistent on that. The shop has a strict policy. That's not the place you are looking for if that's your interest.
I am coming down to Grand Rapids for a meeting on Monday morning, and I will be able to get away for an hour after the meeting. As a result, I will be calling asking for a last minute appointment. What massage places do you think I should try? I will be taking whoever is free at that time, so I want a place where all the ladies are good. From reading the reviews it looks like Luxe would be a good bet. Are there any others?
Member #6609
09-21-22, 10:38
Curious about this one: https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/belmont-healing-mind-body-spirit-healing/7528229821.html.
Rates aren't cheap. Would hate to show up and have her be obese or something.I tried contacting. Followed the rules and no reply yet:/ if I gef one ill report back.
I tried contacting. Followed the rules and no reply yet:/ if I gef one ill report back.Same here.
I might have asked too many questions for them to reply, I asked is the session clothing optional, what will you be wearing and Mutual Cuddling?
They probably won't answer, for 100 bucks I'm not going to keep my hands to myself.
LandRover20
09-21-22, 11:07
Same here.
I might have asked too many questions for them to reply, I asked is the session clothing optional, what will you be wearing and Mutual Cuddling?
They probably won't answer, for 100 bucks I'm not going to keep my hands to myself.If I get curious enough I'll try without asking any questions.
Benz, any way you could PM me a more exact location?
So I know I have seen reviews I think from the clothes pics, but nothing came up for her. Anyone seen her lately.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/drip-like-aqua-/526533364336 Thanks for any help.
Hit this place up for the first time since covid. They are having a special. 15 minute massage for the price 30 minutes. Will not repeat.
Dean Monger
09-21-22, 19:06
Saw Jaclyn at Panacea.
Very kind and easy going.
Good massage, good finish!
Will be repeating!
Hit this place up for the first time since covid. They are having a special. 15 minute massage for the price 30 minutes. Will not repeat.Agree, I stopped going by 2019 after being shorted 10 minutes on an hour and the next time 15 on a hour! It's still on my no fly list.
Moonglow913
09-22-22, 08:09
No. Reports are consistent on that. The shop has a strict policy. That's not the place you are looking for if that's your interest.Tommey is right but there have been a few reports of more being had and even a few take outs. But the ladies willing to venture on the wilder side are asked to leave. I assume that is the case when I hear one of the ladies is no longer there.
Wow. There are all sorts of providers available to us here. But Lauren continues to amaze me. Since my return to Michigan I've been lucky enough to see her. And she just is the real deal. I brought her a bottle of XO Cognac. Not that it's necessary, but it's a small way to express my appreciation for the aura she provides. In this hobby where emphasis is placed on the finish, or the quickness of the completion, what a refreshing change up to have the process never rushed and the ambiance be one of genuine delight in my presence. She gets it. And I'm so grateful for that.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/681601101788
Enjoy (if you are lucky enough to get an appointment from this low volume treasure).
G2.
If I get curious enough I'll try without asking any questions.
Benz, any way you could PM me a more exact location?The area on the pin is East Beltline and Plainfield intersection.
This is probably a phishing expedition for email and phone numbers.
I emailed, followed the rules and no return call.
No worries, my hobby email and phone are not connected to my real life.
LandRover20
09-22-22, 12:53
The area on the pin is East Beltline and Plainfield intersection.
This is probably a phishing expedition for email and phone numbers.
I emailed, followed the rules and no return call.
No worries, my hobby email and phone are not connected to my real life.You're probably right. Ad seems a little too weird.
I had the pleasure of seeing the Jezebel the other day and I would say overall it was a good experience. I had seen her posts before but never contacted her until I saw a few reviews of her the last couple weeks. I'd say she is the girl in the pictures but is a skosh heavier now. Not bad by any means, had a great set on her (fake?) a nice big ass, and a fun accent. Communication was easy and the location was a nice apartment in downtown GR. Only drawback is you likely have to pay for parking but oh well.
I opted for the hour nuru session as I had never had one before. She used real nuru gel. At least that's what the packaging said but I have nothing to compare it too. The experience was. Interesting. I don' mean that as a knock on her but just the nuru thing as a whole. Not sure its my cup of tea. When I entered she was wearing a robe and got comfortable right away. We did the nuru first, followed by a shower. After there was a BBBJ followed by covered FS in multiple positions. She is by no means a clock watcher and after we finished she offered a regular massage to which I took her up on. And let me tell you, she has some strong hands! The regular massage was good and next time I will likely go that route and skip the nuru. Again, not a knock on her. As a side note the session started out a little slow in that she was kinda quiet but as things went along she warmed up and became quite playful by the end. I will repeat but skip the nuru part. Donation was 3 roses.
As always. Stay safe!
Ben.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/real-nuru-massage--let-me-spoi/298135734728
You're probably right. Ad seems a little too weird.Just got my call back and a text because I didn't answer, wife is home.
If she answers my questions correctly, I'm definitely checking it out
Is our cuddle session clothing optional?
What will you be wearing?
Mutual cuddling?
I had the pleasure of seeing the Jezebel the other day and I would say overall it was a good experience. I had seen her posts before but never contacted her until I saw a few reviews of her the last couple weeks. I'd say she is the girl in the pictures but is a skosh heavier now. Not bad by any means, had a great set on her (fake?) a nice big ass, and a fun accent. Communication was easy and the location was a nice apartment in downtown GR. Only drawback is you likely have to pay for parking but oh well.
I opted for the hour nuru session as I had never had one before. She used real nuru gel. At least that's what the packaging said but I have nothing to compare it too. The experience was. Interesting. I don' mean that as a knock on her but just the nuru thing as a whole. Not sure its my cup of tea. When I entered she was wearing a robe and got comfortable right away. We did the nuru first, followed by a shower. After there was a BBBJ followed by covered FS in multiple positions. She is by no means a clock watcher and after we finished she offered a regular massage to which I took her up on. And let me tell you, she has some strong hands! The regular massage was good and next time I will likely go that route and skip the nuru. Again, not a knock on her. As a side note the session started out a little slow in that she was kinda quiet but as things went along she warmed up and became quite playful by the end. I will repeat but skip the nuru part. Donation was 3 roses.Spot on report Ben! I saw her this spring and was very satisfied. She's a very nice lady. I had a late morning session after which she offered to cook me lunch. Like you, Nuru is interesting but not my cup of tea either.
Boat.
Wow. There are all sorts of providers available to us here. But Lauren continues to amaze me. Since my return to Michigan I've been lucky enough to see her. And she just is the real deal. I brought her a bottle of XO Cognac. Not that it's necessary, but it's a small way to express my appreciation for the aura she provides. In this hobby where emphasis is placed on the finish, or the quickness of the completion, what a refreshing change up to have the process never rushed and the ambiance be one of genuine delight in my presence. She gets it. And I'm so grateful for that..Looks like my link was wrong. Here's a current one for her.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren-/253627795969
Enjoy.
G2.
so i know i have seen reviews i think from the clothes pics, but nothing came up for her. Anyone seen her lately.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/drip-like-aqua-/526533364336 thanks for any help.not worth the price of admission seen her add about a week ago gr.
FlyingTrojan82
09-23-22, 06:47
Saw Victoria, from Craigslist ad recently. Her ad is down now so I can't post a link. Communication was pretty good, was able to schedule a last minute appointment. She greeted me at the door with a smile. She's not young, probably 50's. I undressed and laid on the table. She introduced herself as Vickie and got comfortable before she started massaging my back. She does have a tramp stamp but I couldn't tell what it was (based on prior reviews I was curious if it was Tori From years ago). Massage was good with some teasing. On the flip I got the vibe that she prefers massaging the back side but does offer the ending to keep people happy. Overall the massage was good and I'd consider returning for that but I prefer some of the younger options in town. She' a sweet lady, carries on an intelligent conversation, and a comfortable location.
MrHedberg1
09-23-22, 07:09
Is this one real? I have seen a lot of ads for this one but can't find any information here. Tried multiple searches.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/new-clients-15-off-30-mins-rep/911935058140
Thanks.
Curious about this one: https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hws/d/belmont-healing-mind-body-spirit-healing/7528229821.html.
Rates aren't cheap. Would hate to show up and have her be obese or something.She confirmed your fear of obese, she's bigger than a triple D. Can't have the tits without the hips.
Mutual touch is expected, she wears a sundress and panties or yoga pants and top. Your choice of what she wears.
Advanced scheduling is required until she knows you then she open for same day schedule.
You might get an erection and she's happy to watch you take care of that yourself because she's not allowed to.
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