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Ok. Here's your opportunity unless I book all of her open appointments. Just kidding. I think.
She never is available on weekends. But just posted availability for Saturday. I'm hoping I can make it work for me.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/982571267062
Enjoy.
G2.
Hmm looking for stand HE but if more is offered I won't reject.Kayla. Safe. Scripted. Expected. Delivered.
Hunter. Unsure. Unscripted. Forbidden. Exceeded.
Your choice.
Hmm looking for stand HE but if more is offered I won't reject.For a standard HE, see Kayla.
But don't overlook Christy at Touch of Paradise. Very fun, cute, young, and not at all tip crazy.
Haven't been to the parlor in a bit debating between Milan Monica Reyna. I've been to both places numerous times just curious which one of these three would be best new experience.Monica told me she's taking a break though. That was last week and I haven't heard if / when she's coming back. Milan is a very good option too.
I see the Costco wine dude hasn't learned yet LOL.
I have to appreciate your posts with good details that outline what you paid compared to what was first offered. It is likely true you are an expert negotiator. I, on the other hand, am a terrible negotiator. Perhaps what drives my woeful success rate is a fear of killing the mood or vibe to save $60. So I just usually agree and pay. How do you counter with a lower rate without dimming the mood? Asking for a friend. A really good friend. Me. Thanks for any advice.
G2.The New Member Guide has all the information anyone needs in it. Just 3 pages of good advice on Negotiating, hobby phone, set up appointments, taking one for the team and a review template. Good information for all of us to review occasionally.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide/page2
One thing I did not read in the Guide.
You should never brag about money or what you have to a provider, they will play you for more , if they know you have more
Hollywood55
06-11-22, 18:49
Haven't been to the parlor in a bit debating between Milan Monica Reyna. I've been to both places numerous times just curious which one of these three would be best new experience.Hello BlueGoose,
I tried to send you my personal contact info but your mailbox is full.
Looking forward to meeting you.
Milan.
Is there a spinner here that enjoys anal?
Send me pm.
The coztco whiskey is actually pretty good and just a private label of a popular whiskey. Maybe wine the same, not sure.
I see the Costco wine dude hasn't learned yet LOL.
The coztco whiskey is actually pretty good and just a private label of a popular whiskey. Maybe wine the same, not sure.Costco Wine link.
https://www.businessinsider.com/wine-costco-expensive-bottles-experts-2019-1
I think most providers would be happy to receive a 300 dollar bottle of wine.
The coztco whiskey is actually pretty good and just a private label of a popular whiskey. Maybe wine the same, not sure.Thanks so much for the needed levity. I just got done with a bottle of Costco reserve bourbon. 7 year aged. 103 proof. Somehow I need to get you a bottle of this in appreciation of this post.
G2.
Costco Wine link.
https://www.businessinsider.com/wine-costco-expensive-bottles-experts-2019-1
I think most providers would be happy to receive a 300 dollar bottle of wine.This is why I enjoy this site. Thanks for the support. While it is not required, sometimes we all need someone to just find the humor.
Thank you.
I'd be interested as well.
Is there a spinner here that enjoys anal?
Send me pm.
Usually BBU is a go to spot for good service at a decent rate but my last experience will probably be my last for as long as they stay at the new location. IDK who owns the barbershop in front I thought it was part of BBU but when I arrived there for my last visit there where some AA in the parking lot tryin to flirt with one of the girls, so I pulled around texted provider 5 minutes later got the ok drive back around and right when I got out my car so does an AA 2 spots away. The whole time during my time the AAs where blasting music from the barbershop and could hear a couple of them talking.
IDK who they were if they were one of the girls friends or the owner of the barber shop, but with the girls hanging out outside and whomever guys up front trying to flirt with them they lost my business just my opinion.New location, is that the one on 36th street close to the Xpressway? And I saw in their stag ad they offer walking now, does anyone know if you can just walk in and get serviced like at most massage joints, or do you still have to provide personal information?
The coztco whiskey is actually pretty good and just a private label of a popular whiskey. Maybe wine the same, not sure.A little research shows that's not true, when you do make sure to read the experts take on the products LOL.
Does anyone have a report on Healthy Habits or Royal?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/healthy-habits/653147701401
HelloSeeking
06-13-22, 15:49
Anyone recommend any clean places. Had a bad experience over on 28 and Breton. When I left a bedbug was stuck to me. Never been to one s.
HelloSeeking
06-13-22, 17:44
Do you recommend and clean places. Bedbugs free. I had a bad experience at the parlor on 28 and Breton. Left with a bedbug sticking to me. Looking for a clean place to visit.
Is there a spinner here that enjoys anal?
Send me pm.These are Unicorns. You don't tell anyone when you have one. Good luck!
LoveSloppyLast
06-13-22, 18:24
Does anyone have a report on Healthy Habits or Royal?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/healthy-habits/653147701401It has been several weeks since I went to Royal. I've never had more than an HJ from any provider but did DATY with two and UTC rub others. They disrobed and pushed greater tips ($. 7 for 50 minutes but it seems that each trip was shorter than the last. They request base $. 7 tip.
My go to was Dream but I have not heard from her in several weeks. I have had pretty fair massages from Hannah, Joy, Dream, Sarah and a couple others. I have since changed venues for cost reasons.
YMMV.
Does anyone have a report on Healthy Habits or Royal?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/healthy-habits/653147701401Never been to Healthy Habits, Royal can be hit or miss. Joy is good, had a bad experience with Hanna.
Is there a spinner here that enjoys anal?
Send me pm.Sweet Baby Jane might be what you're looking for.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sbj/021498354334
SharkyScenario
06-13-22, 21:28
Saw Kayla at Panacea the other day. Good sensual back massage flip was very sensual lots of teasing before she got business great HJ happy ending. She let me rome and rub whatever I wanted through clothes. She never once mentioned a tip which I was surprised. I have her a tip upon leaving because she was great will repeat.
It has been several weeks since I went to Royal. I've never had more than an HJ from any provider but did DATY with two and UTC rub others. They disrobed and pushed greater tips ($. 7 for 50 minutes but it seems that each trip was shorter than the last. They request base $. 7 tip.
My go to was Dream but I have not heard from her in several weeks. I have had pretty fair massages from Hannah, Joy, Dream, Sarah and a couple others. I have since changed venues for cost reasons.
YMMV.About a month ago for me. I posted a review. Massage with Dream. I enjoyed it. Std fees and I only opted for HJ. I would return. Feel free to search for my review for more.
New location, is that the one on 36th street close to the Xpressway? And I saw in their stag ad they offer walking now, does anyone know if you can just walk in and get serviced like at most massage joints, or do you still have to provide personal information?Lots to, worry about. Cameras.
Saw Skye for the first time. Super cute girl but very little effort. Super tight pussy but no BJ. If you want a super cute and young spinner to pound away on then she's your girl. I prefer the girls get into it too which is why Sasha remains my favorite at Luxe.
Guitar Man
06-15-22, 02:19
Do you recommend and clean places. Bedbugs free. I had a bad experience at the parlor on 28 and Breton. Left with a bedbug sticking to me. Looking for a clean place to visit.What is the name of the place, there are three places in the same vicinity.
Saw Skye for the first time. Super cute girl but very little effort. Super tight pussy but no BJ. If you want a super cute and young spinner to pound away on then she's your girl. I prefer the girls get into it too which is why Sasha remains my favorite at Luxe.How much did she charge?
I had the chance to see Eris' sister Kenzie solo today. It is her first day working solo since coming back. The appointment was absolutely amazing. She has great hands and massages extremely relaxing with her. She takes great care of your body when you're with her. Everything she does just puts your body at ease. After the flip the massage continues with a lot of teasing and a lot of mutual touch. And the finish was incredibly intense.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/sweet-sexy-funbodywork-by-us/285209034681
Guitar Man
06-15-22, 16:49
Do you recommend and clean places. Bedbugs free. I had a bad experience at the parlor on 28 and Breton. Left with a bedbug sticking to me. Looking for a clean place to visit.I had a massage today at Wellness Massage and the place was very clean and no reports of any problems, so I can report that Wellness Massage gets a clean bill of health and no signs of bedbugs. Could you be talking about Oriental? Or Relax? You really need to be more specific on your posts.
I had a massage today at Wellness Massage and the place was very clean and no reports of any problems, so I can report that Wellness Massage gets a clean bill of health and no signs of bedbugs. Could you be talking about Oriental? Or Relax? You really need to be more specific on your posts.Come on man! It was this "new" persons first post. Don't put undo credibility to it. The next post will probably be they went to bbu and it was so clean!
Been a couple of times to Accupressure. Pretty sure it's still called that. 50+yr Asian, slender, ok looking. Massage was good. Asked if I wanted flip. Minimum roaming utc. 40/40 for hhr. I'll go again. Maybe it is the day and time, but she is the only one I've seen working.
Name is Healing & Wellness not Accupressure.
Been a couple of times to Accupressure. Pretty sure it's still called that. 50+yr Asian, slender, ok looking. Massage was good. Asked if I wanted flip. Minimum roaming utc. 40/40 for hhr. I'll go again. Maybe it is the day and time, but she is the only one I've seen working.
LoveSloppyLast
06-16-22, 14:04
I'm old school and like a natural Bush. Any suggestions on places to find such? Links?
Thanks.
LSL.
I'm old school and like a natural Bush. Any suggestions on places to find such? Links?
Thanks.
LSL.Check out sweet Megan, reviewed as Granny.
MiGentleman
06-16-22, 17:31
I'm old school and like a natural Bush. Any suggestions on places to find such? Links?
Thanks.
LSL.Adorable Rose said that she hasn't shaved the Bush in about 3. 5 years. She gives a great massage too! Y'all should check her out. I personally prefer the Bush considering the fact that shaving increases the risk for STDs.
Kenzie is doing single massages now She was amazing very easy to talk with and has great hands that put all the stress in your life gone Her sister Eris taught her well they are both amazing! Will definitely see her again soon.
You can't go wrong seeing either of them.
Kenzie is doing single massages now She was amazing very easy to talk with and has great hands that put all the stress in your life gone Her sister Eris taught her well they are both amazing! Will definitely see her again soon.
You can't go wrong seeing either of them.I don't know what it is about this place that compels all these "new" posters to jump on and sing their praises. There is no other parlor with so many new posters, in fact Pete loves this place so much all 3 of his posts are about them!
DorianGray907
06-17-22, 12:08
Kenzie is doing single massages now She was amazing very easy to talk with and has great hands that put all the stress in your life gone Her sister Eris taught her well they are both amazing! Will definitely see her again soon.
You can't go wrong seeing either of them.Thanks for the review (ish). These are the reviews that confuse me when you read the two that you have posted they just sound like advertisements. I am concerned that the institution of our hobby is starting to crumble. Obviously this is my personal opinion and not meant to start an argument just a simple topic for discussion.
Kenzie is back, and life is good.
A bit of advice. Her schedule gets slammed fast. Guys are lining up to see her. So schedule early if you'd like a visit. I got mine, and I am happy I did.
Now I just need to get back in the queue to see her again.
P.S., enjoy the EF!
I'm old school and like a natural Bush. Any suggestions on places to find such? Links?
Thanks.
LSL.If you don't mind the drive to Lansing this lady has a nice Bush.
https://lansing.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sweet-sexy-shelly/514812484337
I'm working in the grand rapids are today and the rest of the week on Plainfield road. Is there any good places to go to near Plainfield? Looking for a good massage and a simple ending.
I'm working in the grand rapids are today and the rest of the week on Plainfield road. Is there any good places to go to near Plainfield? Looking for a good massage and a simple ending.North end of Plainfield there are some parlors I go to wonder I see Linda she does nice massage and don't short you on time and does nice he and not gps.
North end of Plainfield there are some parlors I go to wonder I see Linda she does nice massage and don't short you on time and does nice he and not gps.What's the names?
North end of Plainfield there are some parlors I go to wonder I see Linda she does nice massage and don't short you on time and does nice he and not gps.There's a place called Asian massage on Plainfield any luck there?
LoveSloppyLast
06-18-22, 09:22
I'm working in the grand rapids are today and the rest of the week on Plainfield road. Is there any good places to go to near Plainfield? Looking for a good massage and a simple ending.Linda is my go-to at Wonder Massage. She gives a very fine massage, does not rush you, and has been known to provide very fine HJs.
Does anyone know of aa girls at any parlor that would allow daty that is all I am interested in not interested ih a he.
LoveSloppyLast
06-18-22, 13:07
Does anyone know of aa girls at any parlor that would allow daty that is all I am interested in not interested ih a he.At Royal I DATY w Dream. I have not seen her there in a while. Sarah is cute, too, but I was too new at that time to know how to ask. YMMV.
At Wonder on Plainfield is an AA BBW Anna. She posts on STG, too.
At Royal I DATY w Dream. I have not seen her there in a while. Sarah is cute, too, but I was too new at that time to know how to ask. YMMV.
At Wonder on Plainfield is an AA BBW Anna. She posts on STG, too.Royal is a good place to eat pussy, they have a flexible shower head next to the toilet in the employees bathroom for cleaning pussy before the next round. Hopefully they use it often.
If you don't mind the drive to Lansing this lady has a nice Bush.
https://lansing.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sweet-sexy-shelly/514812484337The ad says she is shaved!
Droonus2000
06-18-22, 22:52
I visited touch of Paradise recently. Very prompt service, like I barely said hello and was ushered into a room. This was my first experince with this sort of thing. It was an older lady, Heidi. I was expecting some bikini clad Asian of like 20. But it was a fine massage with topless HE. But today my back hurts worse then when I went in there. YMMV.
What's the names?Can't you read.
I'm working in the grand rapids are today and the rest of the week on Plainfield road. Is there any good places to go to near Plainfield? Looking for a good massage and a simple ending.Five Star can be very good, especially by Cindy. Wonder can be good, but many there are on the large size. Serenity has been getting mixed reviews; pricey but sometimes good menu. Asian Massage right off of I 96 is a Blessings chain, seldom any HEs; same for the one behind the bowling alley further north on Plainfield.
Five Star can be very good, especially by Cindy. Wonder can be good, but many there are on the large size. Serenity has been getting mixed reviews; pricey but sometimes good menu. Asian Massage right off of I 96 is a Blessings chain, seldom any HEs; same for the one behind the bowling alley further north on Plainfield.The one behind the bowling alley is actually north on alpine, not Plainfield. And it is a blessings spa, decent massage, no happy ending.
There is a new massage place on the north side of Plainfield between where 5 star and wonder are located. I believe it's also a blessings spa, nothing but a massage there too.
MidwestHobby
06-19-22, 12:52
I don't know what it is about this place that compels all these "new" posters to jump on and sing their praises. There is no other parlor with so many new posters, in fact Pete loves this place so much all 3 of his posts are about them!It does seem a little suspicious.
The one behind the bowling alley is actually north on alpine, not Plainfield. And it is a blessings spa, decent massage, no happy ending.
There is a new massage place on the north side of Plainfield between where 5 star and wonder are located. I believe it's also a blessings spa, nothing but a massage there too.The Asian place on Nederfield DOES provide more. But it takes some visits to accomplish this.
One of the best providers here is Lauren. But even those of us who are her most ardent supporters have trouble scheduling her. Well, it's about to change a bit which will require more advance planning but greater flexibility in some ways, especially with Saturday pre bookings available.
She told me she will only be available from 11:30 am to 2:30 pm for Mondays Tuesdays Wednesdays and Fridays. On Thursdays she says she will be available from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm. And the best news is she will book some Saturday appointments (I failed to get exact time availability) if appointments are made a day or more in advance.
As most of us know, her phone app is only activated when she's available. So starting tomorrow at about 11:00 am any who are hoping to start the week out right should start texting her. Of course, I will be texting at 10:59 am to be first in line for my preferred appointment time.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/661194819482
Enjoy.
G2.
It does seem a little suspicious.Now we know, we don't need to go, just because someone said so.
We're smarter than Lurkers and Jerkers.
Had my first visit to Serenity last week. First off the place was very nice, I even enjoyed the funky lighting in the room.
Milan is top notch! Even before she laid a finger on me the way she interacts just says nurturing. Very thorough massage, and the flip was amazing!
Accupressure moved south of 28th on East Paris, rarely see cars around it though.
Been a couple of times to Accupressure. Pretty sure it's still called that. 50+yr Asian, slender, ok looking. Massage was good. Asked if I wanted flip. Minimum roaming utc. 40/40 for hhr. I'll go again. Maybe it is the day and time, but she is the only one I've seen working.
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/let-me-be-your-best-kept-secret/47263350
Pretty much perfect. Seems too good. It's a 616 number but I do not recognize it.
Anyone TOFTT?
Its been about ten years I use to lady called Ann or Ann.
She knew what to do. I would start on my back she would.
Get going and stop. Then flip me over and massage my back.
Start to with the boys and a little annual. The flip over.
Again and start massaging my dick just to about to run.
And stop she did that for about 30 minutes then the grand.
Finally came boy I miss her. Can anybody recommend and.
Body that can take this type of massage on. To me it better.
Then full service and I paid for it to but it the best. I don't even.
Care if she leave her clothes on.
And woman up for the challenge? I been away for ten years.
And not in jail LOL.
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I had a massage today at Wellness Massage and the place was very clean and no reports of any problems, so I can report that Wellness Massage gets a clean bill of health and no signs of bedbugs. Could you be talking about Oriental? Or Relax? You really need to be more specific on your posts.Is a HE available at Wellness or anything else on the menu?
OK. Gentlemen. Start your engines. There is a new provider in town. She is named Phoenix and should be posting on STG tomorrow. Early 20's. Beautiful light mocha skin. Soft curly hair. Soft skin. Enjoys touching and being touched. Good menu.
Once she posts I will add a link. But be prepared to enjoy.
G2.
Guitar Man
06-21-22, 21:38
Is a HE available at Wellness or anything else on the menu?The place is legit no HE.
Hollywood55
06-23-22, 08:28
Had my first visit to Serenity last week. First off the place was very nice, I even enjoyed the funky lighting in the room.
Milan is top notch! Even before she laid a finger on me the way she interacts just says nurturing. Very thorough massage, and the flip was amazing!ReddyKW,
You are too kind! I really enjoyed our conversation and time, you are a lot of fun!!
Milan.
OK. Gentlemen. Start your engines. There is a new provider in town. She is named Phoenix and should be posting on STG tomorrow. Early 20's. Beautiful light mocha skin. Soft curly hair. Soft skin. Enjoys touching and being touched. Good menu.
Once she posts I will add a link. But be prepared to enjoy.Her stg post is now up and running. She will be available starting next week. And only a couple appointments a day.
She is young and new to the hobby, so she's being shielded as she learns her way. She will only be seeing clients who've seen other girls at the shop (Lauren, Cassidy, Hunter). So you may need to schedule one of those lovely ladies first. Not a bad prequalify process. See a fantastic provider in order to see a new young hottie.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/phoenix/194001559712
Enjoy.
G2.
Things can never go easy for me. Unless of course, it involves seeing a beauty like Phoenix.
Here's the new link to her skip the games massage ad. Remember she won't be available until next week. And you need to be a client who has seen Lauren or Cassidy or Hunter until she knows better how to qualify future clients.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/phoenix/439460482321
Enjoy.
G2.
Her stg post is now up and running. She will be available starting next week. And only a couple appointments a day.
She is young and new to the hobby, so she's being shielded as she learns her way. She will only be seeing clients who've seen other girls at the shop (Lauren, Cassidy, Hunter). So you may need to schedule one of those lovely ladies first. Not a bad prequalify process. See a fantastic provider in order to see a new young hottie.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/phoenix/194001559712
Enjoy..That link doesn't seem to work. Does this? https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/phoenix/439460482321.
That link doesn't seem to work. Does this? https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/phoenix/439460482321.Yes. That's the correct link.
Well I haven't been able to get out much lately. But I had a little extra time and money on my hands so I decided to make a visit to Panacea. I didn't make an appointment, just did a walk in and hoping to get lucky with a nice girl. I drew Rose, she's a beautiful petite aa girl. I've seen her in there before but I think she used to go by a different name. Like Ari, maybe? Anyways she got comfortable right away without me asking her to. The massage was without a doubt the best massage I've ever had at any parlor. It was like CMT quality massage. So impressed I'd like to go back just for another massage. The flip was great. She didn't just go straight to the HJ. The massage continued on my legs and then eventually she went for the HJ. She definitely knows how to work a tool. She left to get hot towels and came back with a friend. She introduced me to Joslyn, another petite beauty, that was a very pleasant introduction. The entire visit was exactly what you could ever hope for. I will repeat. Also tip was never discussed. 50/70, I gave a little extra cause she was so great to me.
Very pleasant soft skinned Latina. She really seems to enjoy the session. Likes Hennessy.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/reyna-bodywork-duos-and-single/925398665271
OK guys looking for best provider the gives the best hand job. I have been absent for a long time and in of someone the knows how to bring you to the edge multiple times be let it all go. That's all I am looking for. On another note has any tried the massage place in South haven?
OK guys looking for best provider the gives the best hand job. I have been absent for a long time and in of someone the knows how to bring you to the edge multiple times be let it all go. That's all I am looking for. On another note has any tried the massage place in South haven?Search in the Kalamazoo / SW Michigan forum for Sophie or Sophie's. Seems to be just straight massage. There are a couple of new girls working there, so one wonders about them, but the owner, Sophie, is strictly legit massage--even though everything about the place screams "typical AMP. " I've seen Sophie a couple of times and gotten good massages--but no HE. I was trying to TOFTT, but someone else reported back before I could and his experience was pretty much like mine. I even went back a second time wondering if she'd loosen up with repeat business. Sophie is nice and cute, but seems committed to only doing legit massage. The last time I was there she got a call while I was getting comfortable and I could hear her on the phone. I think the guy on the phone must've just come out and asked about HE because she really laid into him about it being only massage.
I recently saw Dream at Royal Touch. She's a young (early 20's) AA provider. She's hot, nice tight body, smallish perky boobs, and a great, firm ass. However, my overall experience wasn't that great. I had called ahead and asked if she was working since I'd read a few good reviews of her. They said she was and would let her know to be there at the time we set. I got there and she wasn't there yet. I laid in the room waiting for her for about 20 minutes before she got there. Another provider, Saisha, actually came in and checked on me a couple of times and I was about ready to ask her if I could just see her. I've seen Saisha a couple of times before and always had a great time. Eventually Dream showed up and when she came into the room, she looked good enough that I was willing to let her late arrival go and just enjoy the massage. But she kept getting calls and texts the whole time. After the flip she did ignore her phone during the ending, but while she was in the actual massage part of it, she answered several texts and two or three phone calls. I almost felt like she knows she's hot--hotter than a lot of girls out there, so she thinks it's OK to treat a client that way. She'd say she was "sorry about that" every time she got off the phone, but she kept doing it. Most of the massage was done with one hand while she was talking or texting using the other hand. What really got me was this was my first time seeing her and she was willing to treat me this way. It might have bothered me less if we had a little history together and I'd had some previous massages with her that weren't like that or something, but this was the first impression and she wouldn't leave her phone alone. She did allow a fair amount of roaming and like I said, her body is tight, so that was enjoyable, but the lateness combined with the attention given to her phone was a real put off. Once the flip happened she offered 2 options "naughty" or "nice. " Naughty was twice the tip that nice was, but from what info I got out of her (she was vague on details) the ending was essentially the same, she just got more comfortable and a little more playful with the naughty option. Since the ending was the same and I was already pretty irritated, I just went with "nice. " She got the job done and she did use both hands and ignore her phone during that part of our time together, but that was the only time. And, there was no other massage after the flip. The back massage was OK or would've been if she'd put down the phone. But on the front, it was down to business, then nothing else. She literally didn't touch the front of my legs, arms, chest or anywhere else except doing the HE on my front. To be honest, I'm there for the HE and anything else I can in the ending. The massage to me is mostly about flirting leading up to the "release" as they say. So I normally won't complain about a mediocre massage as long as the ending is good. But I was really surprised that there was literally no massage on the front. I've had other providers actually give me a nice massage with the time left after the HE or at least a foot rub or something. With Dream, once I was "done", she was done too. Door fee $. 7 and tip $1. That's close to BBU rates and she's definitely hot enough to be a BBU girl, but I don't plan to repeat with her. She's good looking enough that I may reconsider, but based on the experience, I have no plans to see her again. Maybe I just caught her on a bad day, but that was my experience. As I mentioned, I've seen Saisha there at Royal a few times. I know others have given her mixed reviews, but my time with her has always been very satisfactory. I've seen Hannah at Royal twice. The fist time was pretty good. The second time made me decide not to see Hannah any more. If I go back to Royal (and it's a big IF at this point) I'll stick with Saisha. I was curious to try the rest of the girls, but after my second time with Hannah and my one and only time with Dream, I don't want to waste the limited time and money I have for this hobby on another lackluster experience if I can avoid it. As always, YMMV and if you do see Dream, I certainly hope your experience is better (and that she forgets her phone during your massage).
I don't live in Grand Rapids, but I get down there a few times a year, so I don't post here often. I had seen Milan previously, so I decided to go with a sure thing. I made the appointment a week in advance. I made two quick texts just reconfirming our appointment and Milan always responded quickly. I arrived, and they knew I was coming, so the receptionist immediately brought me to a room to get ready.
The first time I saw Milan, I was her first customer, and she had little training, so the first massage was nothing special, except for the ending, which she handled expertly. In the intervening months Milan has been taking massage classes. This time when she came in, she asked how I wanted the massage, and the asked if there were any areas of my body she should concentrate on. I am recuperating from a major back surgery so I had some definite issues. She proceeded with the massage, and it was one of the best I have ever had. I mean one of the best CMT massages I have ever had! On the flip, she finished the massage working on my legs, before she moved on to more interesting areas. It was warm in the room, so Milan took off some clothes while I was face down. As far as I am concerned she has the perfect body, slim, toned, with small perky boobs, so after the flip I enjoyed watching her work.
Milan doesn't ask for any tip. She knows what she is there for, and works with her clients to see that their needs are satisfied. I was more than satisfied, and left a generous tip. Milan wanted to introduce me to two other girls who work there, but my time was tight so I couldn't take her up on her offer. She did say that they were young and eager to please their clients.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/see-the-one-and-only-cassidy/647690784433
Hey y'all. This girl cute Spanish lady with good massage and extras. Not girl in photo, but irl is cuter and thinner. In private local near BWBU used to be on 44th. I enjoy this Cassidy. I am the walrus.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/milan/923473157728
First report in some time. Been laying low for a bit, but dabble occasionally. Started seeing Milan when she was still training at Serenity, and had an awesome duo with her and Hayley for the first meet and greet!! Since then, she has been my go to. She's intelligent, has great conversation, and in my opinion. Is sexy as hell. Very nice little body, great ass and very nice tits. She gives a nice, full body massage and works what you need her to. On the flip, she just does it for me. No jackhammering, or being overly aggressive. Just lots of super sexy eye contact and talk. Never any mention of a tip, any bitchy demands, or attitude. She is always sweet, professional, and accommodating. The room is always clean, and is the perfect balance or low light and music. $180 seems to be the going rate for this quality of experience at the moment, and I usually leave extra for my appreciation of her company. If you haven't been, take the time, she's always consistent and makes you feel like a million bucks.
Hollywood55
06-27-22, 17:10
I don't live in Grand Rapids, but I get down there a few times a year, so I don't post here often. I had seen Milan previously, so I decided to go with a sure thing. I made the appointment a week in advance. I made two quick texts just reconfirming our appointment and Milan always responded quickly. I arrived, and they knew I was coming, so the receptionist immediately brought me to a room to get ready.
The first time I saw Milan, I was her first customer, and she had little training, so the first massage was nothing special, except for the ending, which she handled expertly. In the intervening months Milan has been taking massage classes. This time when she came in, she asked how I wanted the massage, and the asked if there were any areas of my body she should concentrate on. I am recuperating from a major back surgery so I had some definite issues. She proceeded with the massage, and it was one of the best I have ever had. I mean one of the best CMT massages I have ever had! On the flip, she finished the massage working on my legs, before she moved on to more interesting areas. It was warm in the room, so Milan took off some clothes while I was face down. As far as I am concerned she has the perfect body, slim, toned, with small perky boobs, so after the flip I enjoyed watching her work.BusterTc,
Wow! Thank you so much for my review! I really appreciate that you have noticed my improvements and recognized them.
Hollywood55
06-27-22, 17:18
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/milan/923473157728
First report in some time. Been laying low for a bit, but dabble occasionally. Started seeing Milan when she was still training at Serenity, and had an awesome duo with her and Hayley for the first meet and greet!! Since then, she has been my go to. She's intelligent, has great conversation, and in my opinion. Is sexy as hell. Very nice little body, great ass and very nice tits. She gives a nice, full body massage and works what you need her to. On the flip, she just does it for me. No jackhammering, or being overly aggressive. Just lots of super sexy eye contact and talk. Never any mention of a tip, any bitchy demands, or attitude. She is always sweet, professional, and accommodating. The room is always clean, and is the perfect balance or low light and music. $180 seems to be the going rate for this quality of experience at the moment, and I usually leave extra for my appreciation of her company. If you haven't been, take the time, she's always consistent and makes you feel like a million bucks.HeadShot,
Thank you so very much for the review!
Love Milan.
Generally, if I feel like I can add something new to the discussion, I'll post a review. But if a provider already has glowing reviews and my experience is the same, then I don't see a point in simply repeating what others have said. But I had an experience that I feel is worth sharing if only to reaffirm what others have said. I recently saw Lauren (the Lauren that works with Hunter, Cassidy James, and now, I guess, Phoenix). This was my first time seeing her or any of the ladies at this establishment. And all I can say is Wow! I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it exceeded my expectations. I left there thinking to myself, "Why have I been going anywhere else? So, add me as a fan of Lauren. Plan to repeat.
Generally, if I feel like I can add something new to the discussion, I'll post a review. But if a provider already has glowing reviews and my experience is the same, then I don't see a point in simply repeating what others have said. But I had an experience that I feel is worth sharing if only to reaffirm what others have said. I recently saw Lauren (the Lauren that works with Hunter, Cassidy James, and now, I guess, Phoenix). This was my first time seeing her or any of the ladies at this establishment. And all I can say is Wow! I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it exceeded my expectations. I left there thinking to myself, "Why have I been going anywhere else? So, add me as a fan of Lauren. Plan to repeat.Thanks for adding to the chorus. In this time of unknown providers, and upsell, Lauren is a shining beacon of a great experience at a bargain cost. I feel the same way as you articulated.
G2.
After reading about Joy at TuiNa massage, I decided I'd go and check it out. I've gone three times now. (I should probably post more). My first time was very pleasant, I went for an hour (. 6) and feel like I got my times worth. Joy was very playful and after a few brushes, things went as I expected. She was very sweet to me and complimented my body while she rubbed me down. It was a joyful experience to say the least. The second time was more fun than the first, but the third time I asked for an hour, and only got 30 minutes (Joy said that the boss overbooked on accident and she had another client waiting in another room). She did what she could and actually refunded me a little money too, to make up the difference. After everything was all said and done the damage was ($.4). A little more than I'd hope, but that's okay, I enjoy her energy and she always seems very thankful afterward. I'd much rather spend my money and time here than other places where I don't get the same type of energy and positivity.
Member #6481
06-28-22, 12:23
Saw Lina at Wonder two weeks ago. Reasonably attractive Latina. Wears a corset to I suspect a belly. Wouldn't remove it either (strike one). Bit of odor down yonder so skipped DATY (strike 2). She was very transactional (strike 3).
She was nicely tight but at 180 (60 house plus 120) will not repeat. Hunters Angels are similar pricing (bit more) but far better in all regards.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/exotic-latina-available-for-yo/906692659638
Member #6481
06-28-22, 12:33
This one was a big mistake. Called two different days. Says she taking appointments at her house not Royal (near Lee HS). Not a fan of that but proceeded on the second time.
House is a pig sty. That is always a huge turn off for me and why I prefer salons. She's very big. Much bigger than photos show. She was stoned or high. Was going for full session but stopped at BJ. I wanted out. Took every shred of closed eyes imagination and made it to the finish line.
Waste of 120.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/royal-touch-come-see-me/645420830341
Saw Lina at Wonder two weeks ago. Reasonably attractive Latina. Wears a corset to I suspect a belly. Wouldn't remove it either (strike one). Bit of odor down yonder so skipped DATY (strike 2). She was very transactional (strike 3).
She was nicely tight but at 180 (60 house plus 120) will not repeat. Hunters Angels are similar pricing (bit more) but far better in all regards.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/exotic-latina-available-for-yo/906692659638Well this sums up my experience exactly. Will not repeat. Ever. If anyone does visit. Make sure to only go for the 30 minute. Because her goal is to have you out in 15.
Has anyone seen this provider? She advertised on the massage side of STG and it seems like a massage ad. But one of the first things she says in the ad is that she offers Greek. Then she says she offers Nuru (which is a type of massage). Then she says she offers topless GFE. What? GFE generally means more than topless and more than massage, right? It seems like she's mixing some "escort" terms with some "massage" terms. Or maybe I'm confused (I am a lot about a lot of things these days!) Does Greek mean something different in when it comes to massages or does Greek mean Greek? I Googled "Greek massage" and according to Urban Dictionary, it's where a masseuse spits on your back (or they listed something called a "Greek foot massage" where the masseuse sticks her thumb up your ass). Anybody seen her or have any insight into what she means? Thanks.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/start-your-week-off-right/607700246422
Has anyone seen this provider? She advertised on the massage side of STG and it seems like a massage ad. But one of the first things she says in the ad is that she offers Greek. Then she says she offers Nuru (which is a type of massage). Then she says she offers topless GFE. What? GFE generally means more than topless and more than massage, right? It seems like she's mixing some "escort" terms with some "massage" terms. Or maybe I'm confused (I am a lot about a lot of things these days!) Does Greek mean something different in when it comes to massages or does Greek mean Greek? I Googled "Greek massage" and according to Urban Dictionary, it's where a masseuse spits on your back (or they listed something called a "Greek foot massage" where the masseuse sticks her thumb up your ass). Anybody seen her or have any insight into what she means? Thanks.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/start-your-week-off-right/607700246422Hey. To me it says. Stay away. Loud and clear. Or be prepared to be disappointed. And lots of upsell.
But that's just my opinion.
G2.
Thanks for adding to the chorus. In this time of unknown providers, and upsell, Lauren is a shining beacon of a great experience at a bargain cost. I feel the same way as you articulated.
G2.I've recently joined the Lauren fan club too. I don't think I can add anything new. She's gorgeous, great body. Nice personality too, not awkward at all.
She's exactly my type. I suspect she's everybody's type, haha.
She's generous, and was focused and seemed into our time together.
I hope to see her again.
DorianGray907
06-28-22, 20:03
Has anyone seen this provider? She advertised on the massage side of STG and it seems like a massage ad. But one of the first things she says in the ad is that she offers Greek. Then she says she offers Nuru (which is a type of massage). Then she says she offers topless GFE. What? GFE generally means more than topless and more than massage, right? It seems like she's mixing some "escort" terms with some "massage" terms. Or maybe I'm confused (I am a lot about a lot of things these days!) Does Greek mean something different in when it comes to massages or does Greek mean Greek? I Googled "Greek massage" and according to Urban Dictionary, it's where a masseuse spits on your back (or they listed something called a "Greek foot massage" where the masseuse sticks her thumb up your ass). Anybody seen her or have any insight into what she means? Thanks.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/start-your-week-off-right/607700246422You can dm me for why but if you go back in my post to the one that I almost left the hobby she was the one in question. AVOID.
LoveSloppyLast
06-28-22, 21:35
Saw Lina at Wonder two weeks ago. ... I texted her and received a response. I asked one question and she just about ripped my head off. Not only will I avoid **her** but also will never go back to see Linda, a decent massage therapist and a good person at HEs.
HollanDays
06-29-22, 15:14
Had a wonderful massage with Sarah yesterday. I am new to these types of services and was up front with her about that. She made me feel incredibly comfortable and didn't have any problems with the 'noob' questions I was asking along the way. She is already pretty well reviewed the past year in this thread, but I will add she is an MT provider, as I had not seen that mentioned yet. I had a very intimate nuru massage with her that I would recommend to anyone. Very easy to chat with and I did not feel rushed or pushed out the door. Thanks Sarah!
https://tryst.link/massage/sjp
LandRover20
06-29-22, 17:17
Anyone know if she's unavailable until after the long weekend? Looks like her ad's been pulled down. Was hoping to schedule either tomorrow or Friday.
Anyone know if she's unavailable until after the long weekend? Looks like her ad's been pulled down. Was hoping to schedule either tomorrow or Friday.Maybe PM her. She's on the boards. Just posted a few posts back. Hollywood55.
G2.
Scheduled a mutual massage with Ashley today.
Picked up Sweetlands milk chocolate cashew bark on my way, to make sure it's a great day.
Ashley's friend Alley (young, cute with D cups, very nice responsive nipples and a tattooed stripper body) was available, invited in on the first half for my massage.
Both girls simultaneously rubbed my calf's with long smooth strokes. Both moving to the thighs at the same time. Well trained ladies. I was definitely reaping the rewards of my prior training sessions with them.
On the flip, Ashley gets on the table slides her lubed glove on, starts expertly rubbing my prostate,(without me asking for it) matching the rhythm and strokes on my cock. Not too many providers can do it right, I've met very few that are willing to learn.
I could tell Alley was contributing, I wasn't sure which girl was doing what, while my eyes were closed. I got everything I needed. I finished by giving Ashley her massage, I found it difficult to get started after all my fun. Ashley was a wet rag when we were done, my body was still humming all the way home. (Whew).
I have Ashley digits for anyone that wants an expert prostate massage to improve on Men's Health.
https://www.bensnaturalhealth.com/blog/prostate-massage/
Hollywood55
06-30-22, 12:53
Maybe PM her. She's on the boards. Just posted a few posts back. Hollywood55..Thank you G2.
Hollywood55
06-30-22, 12:54
Anyone know if she's unavailable until after the long weekend? Looks like her ad's been pulled down. Was hoping to schedule either tomorrow or Friday.Hi LandRover20,
I will PM you.
MILAN.
First post but visited her a few times.
If you're looking for a massage with good pressure plus some extras Angel is a great choice. Isn't shy and for an extra tip will allow roaming and isn't afraid to take her clothes off.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/angelready-to-playbest-prostat/122583669993
When Lux came onto the scene, she had decent reviews but took a horrible turn.
I am just wondering if anyone has seen her lately. I REALLY want to book an appointment with her.
When Lux came onto the scene, she had decent reviews but took a horrible turn.
I am just wondering if anyone has seen her lately. I REALLY want to book an appointment with her.I know what you mean. The photos and narrative are alluring. But from all accounts here, the photos are glamour shots from many years ago. And the candy use is widely reported. As is the constant presence of the boyfriend / security. So for me that's a hard no. So many safer options available. But if you venture into the allure, let us know how it goes.
G2.
Had a long overdue appointment with Milan last weekend. Been meaning to see her for awhile, but our schedules just didn't match up.
She surprised me with a new hair color since I had last seen her, took a min to get used to it, but it looks great on her.
Still as sexy as always with those long slender legs and thin spinner body. She is also someone who generally cares about your health and well being.
And will work on any sore spots with the care of a professional.
You're guaranteed to leave happy and feeling much better looking forward to my next visit.
Sparty On 1234
07-01-22, 12:40
First post but visited her a few times.
If you're looking for a massage with good pressure plus some extras Angel is a great choice. Isn't shy and for an extra tip will allow roaming and isn't afraid to take her clothes off.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/angelready-to-playbest-prostat/122583669993I've seen Angel a few times. Agree with other post. Tell her what you are looking for and she will take care of you. Adequate massage. Good prostate massage. Will get naked and allow roaming. Great rack. BBBJ with adequate compensation. Nice HJ technique and happy ending. Worth seeing. Will see again. $$ total damage. Safe, clean place in Kentwood. No drama.
Mongerlian
07-01-22, 13:09
I know what you mean. The photos and narrative are alluring.For any new mongers, this right here is something to watch out for. Ashley winter is a good one for this. I bring her up because she seems to be posting a lot lately and if there are newbies, don't get suckered in like I did a long time ago. She makes it sound like she'll connect on every level, giving you some deep spiritual experience. If your idea of a spiritual experience is her dragging her fingertips on your back for five minutes, then lightly rubbing your ankle for fifteen minutes while she's on her phone, all topped off with a 20-25 minute time shortage after asking an absurd amount to take just her shirt off with very limited roaming, then she's your gal. But that's not all! Call now and you'll get a not remotely free shitty attitude! Point is, I get advertising yourself and that often the attitude doesn't match the description, kinda like a picture of a Big Mac vs what you actually get. I'm this case, it's like ordering a Big Mac and getting a box of trash with secret shit sauce. Moral of the story: don't get fooled by pretty faces or words, and don't ever waste your time with Ashley winter.
P.S. I understand if you take out a second mortgage you can get whatever from her, so if that's your thing, ignore this post.
Mongerlian, how do you REALLY feel about Ms. Winter? LOL.
I too find her extremely attractive, and have called her twice in the last couple of years, both with zero results.
This last call, sometime this Spring, I asked what was available, and offered a comparable donation amount that I had with other providers.
She told me that that would get a HJ only; FS was something approaching four to five bills (if I remember correctly).
I will say that she was friendly (with me) on the phone and has a very sexy voice, but that is very high IMO.
For any new mongers, this right here is something to watch out for. Ashley winter is a good one for this. I bring her up because she seems to be posting a lot lately and if there are newbies, don't get suckered in like I did a long time ago. She makes it sound like she'll connect on every level, giving you some deep spiritual experience. If your idea of a spiritual experience is her dragging her fingertips on your back for five minutes, then lightly rubbing your ankle for fifteen minutes while she's on her phone, all topped off with a 20-25 minute time shortage after asking an absurd amount to take just her shirt off with very limited roaming, then she's your gal. But that's not all! Call now and you'll get a not remotely free shitty attitude! Point is, I get advertising yourself and that often the attitude doesn't match the description, kinda like a picture of a Big Mac vs what you actually get. I'm this case, it's like ordering a Big Mac and getting a box of trash with secret shit sauce. Moral of the story: don't get fooled by pretty faces or words, and don't ever waste your time with Ashley winter.
P.S. I understand if you take out a second mortgage you can get whatever from her, so if that's your thing, ignore this post.
This last call, sometime this Spring, I asked what was available, and offered a comparable donation amount that I had with other providers.
She told me that that would get a HJ only; FS was something approaching four to five bills (if I remember correctly).
I will say that she was friendly (with me) on the phone and has a very sexy voice, but that is very high IMO.Those FS prices are everywhere at massage parlors right now. The younger and prettier they are, the More they charge
The price for FS from that older lunatic at Healthy Habits is probably very reasonable and not very desirable.
That's why I would never go to a massage parlor for FS.
Montana Slim
07-01-22, 15:50
I saw Milan, and it was an hour well spent. She is gorgeous, intelligent, kind, and sexy, all wrapped into one. She quickly picked up on the technique I wanted for the massage, and our conversation was a bonus. As others have said, she brings a great attitude into the room.
AustinRamos1
07-01-22, 15:58
When Lux came onto the scene, she had decent reviews but took a horrible turn.
I am just wondering if anyone has seen her lately. I REALLY want to book an appointment with her.Let me be clear on this point, I've seen Lux a few times and she is an attractive, sweet girl with a unfortunate proclivity for letting me down. As she knows, I try not to leave "bad" reviews. I leave honest reviews of my experience with a provider and let the crowd sort it out. First time I saw her in Walker hotel, great experience but somewhat soured by the bf / scheduler / bodyguard and his jealousy. Body slide, no HE. Second visit, she was not talking to the bf at the time and we had an amazing session. She even stepped outside of her normal comfort zone for me (we had discussed and arranged prior to session). Third visit was Cascade area hotel I think, good massage, again no HE. She also told me she was on period at the time, so no body slide, no HE. Last visit, met at her rental near Allendale. Good massage but bf was blowing her phone up. Texts, calls, and I think she had to meet him at back door and talk twice or something. This was right before she was planning a trip to Traverse City.
Listen, I can be as magnanimous and caring a person you'll come across, and she is seemingly such a sweet girl that I'd love to see once a week even, but I can't do it with this bf in the picture. I have a CPL but keep my protection in the vehicle when going to incall a for the safety, security, and peace of mind of the provider. I would rather they be comfortable and walk into a trap, risking my own safety, than have them uncomfortable and meeting a guy they don't know normalizing bringing a CCW into their home without their express permission. I bring this up to say that her bf seems unhinged. Is he had walked in the back door on the two occasions they met at the door while I was only wearing boxers on her massage table, it could have been a bad situation. I like Lux, she is a sweet girl but I cannot propagate her to the broader community without clarifying a few warnings. Good girl that I will refuse to see unless bf is out of picture. I'm pretty patient and giving but I won't do that. YMMV.
Mongerlian
07-01-22, 17:28
Mongerlian, how do you REALLY feel about Ms. Winter? LOL.
I too find her extremely attractive, and have called her twice in the last couple of years, both with zero results.
This last call, sometime this Spring, I asked what was available, and offered a comparable donation amount that I had with other providers.
She told me that that would get a HJ only; FS was something approaching four to five bills (if I remember correctly).
I will say that she was friendly (with me) on the phone and has a very sexy voice, but that is very high IMO.LOL I suppose I was rather unflattering, probably sounds like I have a vendetta. I promise I really don't, save for the fact that, while I know there are worse experiences out there, she was easily my worst experience as far as MPs go. Truth is, I'm just trying to convey to anyone who hasn't had the lack of pleasure to be cautious, just in a colorful way. I know she's had one or two white knights (simps), but obviously the vast majority of negative reviews about her are ample evidence that my experience is the norm.
Well I see its been busy the last couple hrs I've been out. LOL.
On my visit with Milan last weekend, see asked if I knew Ashley or had seen her before, which I have not. She said Ashley was back at serenity and would I be willing to see her and give an honest review. I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.
Not trying to "white knight" for her, but I was asked to meet and give my honest review of the experience. Obviously we won't know for sure until others have the same experience or the same service with repeat visits.
So if you have never seen her before, now would be a good time to give her a try, and if you have seen her, maybe give her a 2nd chance to redeem herself. Just my 2 cents worth.
Well I see its been busy the last couple hrs I've been out. LOL.
On my visit with Milan last weekend, see asked if I knew Ashley or had seen her before, which I have not. She said Ashley was back at serenity and would I be willing to see her and give an honest review. I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.
Not trying to "white knight" for her, but I was asked to meet and give my honest review of the experience. Obviously we won't know for sure until others have the same experience or the same service with repeat visits.
So if you have never seen her before, now would be a good time to give her a try, and if you have seen her, maybe give her a 2nd chance to redeem herself. Just my 2 cents worth.Yea, I've seen her before and there's no way in hell I would ever see her again. Worst experience ever, and I can not believe Haley let her back in.
Well I see its been busy the last couple hrs I've been out. LOL.
On my visit with Milan last weekend, see asked if I knew Ashley or had seen her before, which I have not. She said Ashley was back at serenity and would I be willing to see her and give an honest review. I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.
Not trying to "white knight" for her, but I was asked to meet and give my honest review of the experience. Obviously we won't know for sure until others have the same experience or the same service with repeat visits.
So if you have never seen her before, now would be a good time to give her a try, and if you have seen her, maybe give her a 2nd chance to redeem herself. Just my 2 cents worth.You're not White Knighting.
This is the definition of white knighting from usasexguides abbreviations list.
A poster who defends or "comes to the rescue" of a provider who has been reviewed poorly, regardless of whether the review is accurate.
You didn't respond on a white horse to a review of a provider. You gave a report on your experience. That's what we're here to do. Not challenge other posters about their reviews for any reason. Just report what we know to be true for ourselves.
Everyone has different needs in this hobby. If someone has a different opinion of a provider, so be it. Posting our honest experiences is what we're here for.
DukeOfCaboose
07-02-22, 06:56
When Lux came onto the scene, she had decent reviews but took a horrible turn.
I am just wondering if anyone has seen her lately. I REALLY want to book an appointment with her.She is just a huge disappointment. Do your self and wallet a favor and don't. Boyfriend will be knocking on the door at some point for sure.
Well I see its been busy the last couple hrs I've been out. LOL.
On my visit with Milan last weekend, see asked if I knew Ashley or had seen her before, which I have not. She said Ashley was back at serenity and would I be willing to see her and give an honest review. I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.
Not trying to "white knight" for her, but I was asked to meet and give my honest review of the experience. Obviously we won't know for sure until others have the same experience or the same service with repeat visits.
So if you have never seen her before, now would be a good time to give her a try, and if you have seen her, maybe give her a 2nd chance to redeem herself. Just my 2 cents worth.
Saw her a few months ago. First thi gs first, she looks absolutely nothing like her bait and switch pics on STG. Looks rode hard and put away wet, about 40# heavier, mostly in her stomach. Started off fine, did the hottub and some drinks, moved to the bed. Got a blow job, some rubbing and then she straddled me, rubber her pussy on my cock, and out of nowhere, jumped on my cock an went to town. Her douchebag ghetto trash boyfriend was calling, and at the door a few times. Oh yeah, and her two "bathroom breaks were so she could get stoned out of her mind. When I left, she couldn't string a coherent sentence together. Left, and then got a text complaining how I only gave her the fee she asked for, while not paying for the extras I didn't ask for. Including the std testing I needed to make sure the crackhead didn't give me anything. Wouldn't repeat, and certainly wouldn't want to deal with her dipshit "security" again. She's made every excuse about hacked phones, (not possible) and everybody lying about her heroin habit, and how she doesn't fuck anything that comes though the door to justify her so called professionalism. Mind you, every negative review with a link, she immediately deletes said link to her stg ads. Trashy, cheap, neurotic, and cringy. If you want to ride the crazy train, and worry about her dipshit boyfriend. Take the ride, but it's not worth the ticket to crazy town in my opinion. I certainly hope she sees this and gives her bs side of the story, but there are too many reviews that's say exactly what I say to refute my review of this trailer trash.
OK guys looking for best provider the gives the best hand job. I have been absent for a long time and in of someone the knows how to bring you to the edge multiple times be let it all go. That's all I am looking for. On another note has any tried the massage place in South haven?Usually I am looking for a good to great MS, and always a good HE. The closest I have experienced is Sweetie, except that she doesn't bring you close multiple times; just good massage and HE, no stopping and starting a couple of times. Sometimes I'm looking also for just the best HE. I'm also open for suggestions out there on who you like that gives the absolutely best HJ.
OK guys looking for best provider the gives the best hand job. I have been absent for a long time and in of someone the knows how to bring you to the edge multiple times be let it all go. That's all I am looking for. On another note has any tried the massage place in South haven?For edging fun, you should try Madison at BbU.
Moonglow913
07-03-22, 16:33
Usually I am looking for a good to great MS, and always a good HE. The closest I have experienced is Sweetie, except that she doesn't bring you close multiple times; just good massage and HE, no stopping and starting a couple of times. Sometimes I'm looking also for just the best HE. I'm also open for suggestions out there on who you like that gives the absolutely best HJ.While Sweetie isn't your typical MP. I have always found her very accommodating within her limits. What you described is her standard affair. Just ask.
NightTime9
07-03-22, 16:57
Saw her a few months ago. First thi gs first, she looks absolutely nothing like her bait and switch pics on STG. Looks rode hard and put away wet, about 40# heavier, mostly in her stomach. Started off fine, did the hottub and some drinks, moved to the bed. Got a blow job, some rubbing and then she straddled me, rubber her pussy on my cock, and out of nowhere, jumped on my cock an went to town. Her douchebag ghetto trash boyfriend was calling, and at the door a few times. Oh yeah, and her two "bathroom breaks were so she could get stoned out of her mind. When I left, she couldn't string a coherent sentence together. Left, and then got a text complaining how I only gave her the fee she asked for, while not paying for the extras I didn't ask for. Including the std testing I needed to make sure the crackhead didn't give me anything. Wouldn't repeat, and certainly wouldn't want to deal with her dipshit "security" again. She's made every excuse about hacked phones, (not possible) and everybody lying about her heroin habit, and how she doesn't fuck anything that comes though the door to justify her so called professionalism. Mind you, every negative review with a link, she immediately deletes said link to her stg ads. Trashy, cheap, neurotic, and cringy. If you want to ride the crazy train, and worry about her dipshit boyfriend. Take the ride, but it's not worth the ticket to crazy town in my opinion. I certainly hope she sees this and gives her bs side of the story, but there are too many reviews that's say exactly what I say to refute my review of this trailer trash.You hit the nail on the head. I've only had one good appointment with her. Her and her BF / Security are completely nuts! I would stay very far away from this one.
Hey all I'm still new to this been lurker for a while but never done anything. I'm a younger guy in 20's that has always thought about seeing provider but haven't yet. With that being said I've never had an experience like that with anyone, who would be a good person to see and what advice do you guys have? Feel free to pm.
Hey all I'm still new to this been lurker for a while but never done anything. I'm a younger guy in 20's that has always thought about seeing provider but haven't yet. With that being said I've never had an experience like that with anyone, who would be a good person to see and what advice do you guys have? Feel free to pm.Read the New Member Guide.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide
Don't tell any provider it's your first time, most will try to rip you. When you say first time their first thought is. He doesn't know how to negotiate.
Only bring in the money you're willing to spend.
Feel free to set a timer on your phone and let them see that you set it for the allotted time.
You'll always get better service when you tip at the end of your session.
Shorting time is ripping you off too. If you pop before time is up, she should still massage you until your timer goes Ding.
If the provider is offended by any of this , she was planning to rip you off in some way.
Stay safe.
NaperDusty
07-04-22, 23:17
Spent an hour with Milan. First timer. Overall, very standard. Scheduled appointment, easy and very responsive. When I arrived door was propped open. Milan met me out front and walked me to room. She then left to do her hair and makeup. Thanks assumes the position on the table. Returned and easy conversation. Massage was mediocre but I don't go for massage. She didn't remove top until very end and didn't remove bottoms at all, that was disappointing. Standard HJ. I'd recommend if you're looking for a standard HJ and good conversation, but not much more. $$.
NamesTheGoblin
07-05-22, 01:54
How much do people usually pay for someone to just hold you, maybe not even sexually, but primarily hold you or cuddle and tell you things will be okay?
ThrobbinWood
07-05-22, 09:36
How much do people usually pay for someone to just hold you, maybe not even sexually, but primarily hold you or cuddle and tell you things will be okay?Search for Cuddle Comfort there are sites where cuddlers advertise. Prices seem to be in the $75-$150 per hour range. That is about what you'd pay at an AMP or other provider. Maybe that is the going rate for a lady's time no matter what minor extras might be provided. There was a older empathetic lady in Jackson that might fill the role for you. Alixx or Red was her name. She has a compassion and wisdom that you might appreciate.
Search for Cuddle Comfort there are sites where cuddlers advertise. Prices seem to be in the $75-$150 per hour range. That is about what you'd pay at an AMP or other provider. Maybe that is the going rate for a lady's time no matter what minor extras might be provided. There was a older empathetic lady in Jackson that might fill the role for you. Alixx or Red was her name. She has a compassion and wisdom that you might appreciate.I will second that on Alixx. Wise woman with a lot of love for life and others. She's a great provider in this hobby too. You'll get everything you need from Alixx of Jackson.
Goblin needs a real woman, not a clock watcher. I think it's worth his time to visit Alixx.
If she lived closer, I would be broke.
Alixx of Jackson, I will repeat.
ZzTopSterZz
07-05-22, 14:35
Spent an hour with Milan. First timer. Overall, very standard. Scheduled appointment, easy and very responsive. When I arrived door was propped open. Milan met me out front and walked me to room. She then left to do her hair and makeup. Thanks assumes the position on the table. Returned and easy conversation. Massage was mediocre but I don't go for massage. She didn't remove top until very end and didn't remove bottoms at all, that was disappointing. Standard HJ. I'd recommend if you're looking for a standard HJ and good conversation, but not much more. $$.Chicago monger here planning a little trip to GR. Is this the Milan you reference? Is that the same Milan reported at Serenity? Her breasts look amazing.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/milan/459430537530
Thanks.
And what happened to wolverine? For a while he was providing really helpful summaries of reviews with attached ads, pics, links. What a great resource.
ZzTopSterZz
07-05-22, 14:45
Yea, I've seen her before and there's no way in hell I would ever see her again. Worst experience ever, and I can not believe Haley let her back in.Can you confirm. Is this the Ashley at Serenity?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/ashley-winter/447958295768
Phone 6163893518.
There's another Ashley. Looks hot as hell but says outcall only.
https://saginaw.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/visitingp-e-t-i-t-e-blonde/581020779948
646.450. 4387.
Thanks guys.
DorianGray907
07-05-22, 15:00
Can you confirm. Is this the Ashley at Serenity?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/ashley-winter/447958295768
Phone 6163893518.
There's another Ashley. Looks hot as hell but says outcall only.
https://saginaw.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/visitingp-e-t-i-t-e-blonde/581020779948
646.450. 4387.
Thanks guys.That first ad is the ashley at serenity. Two reviews are polar opposites. However both from trusted source.
Can you confirm. Is this the Ashley at Serenity?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/ashley-winter/447958295768
Phone 6163893518.
There's another Ashley. Looks hot as hell but says outcall only.
https://saginaw.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/visitingp-e-t-i-t-e-blonde/581020779948
646.450. 4387.
Thanks guys.Most hot pics on STG are not the girl you'll meet at the appointment. STG has a lot of false advertising.
The pics of Ashley Winter are really her, no fake pics from Ashley Winters advertising.
Had the opportunity to stop and see joy this past weekend. I paid 60/60, massage was spot on with lots of teasing on both our parts, and on the flip was allowed to roam over her underwear. She is one of my favorites, and I always leave with a smile on my face.
Anyone ever seen her? Is this just Lauren by a different name?
https://tryst.link/massage/cassidy69james
Member #6603
07-05-22, 20:11
I will second that on Alixx. Wise woman with a lot of love for life and others. She's a great provider in this hobby too. You'll get everything you need from Alixx of Jackson.
Goblin needs a real woman, not a clock watcher. I think it's worth his time to visit Alixx.
If she lived closer, I would be broke.
Alixx of Jackson, I will repeat.Is Alixx still around? I thought she retired?
Anyone ever seen her? Is this just Lauren by a different name?
https://tryst.link/massage/cassidy69jamesOh I can speak with great authority that Cassidy and Lauren are not the same person. While Lauren is the mild mannered reporter type (Clark Kent) and Cassidy is the woman of steel (torpedoes) they are NOT one and the same. Lauren has been reviewed numerous times by myself and other charter members of the "Lauren fan club". She is the more GFE of the two with the milder more tender demeanor. And Cassidy has had a strong showing in my reviews and recently several others who have been blown away by this tigress. She clearly is the PSE of the two, yelling my name loudly followed by "harder, harder" during one of our paramour episodes. They need to have an AED at that office (den of pleasures). And, of course, don't forget Hunter, the lioness of this jungle adventure. A cross of GFE / PSE. And now the new minx cub, Phoenix is being eased into the thrill ride cornucopia. Lots to explore. Lots to experience. Lots to contemplate. Lots to store in the memory bank. Now get out there and have some fun.
Enjoy.
G2.
Member #6481
07-05-22, 22:03
I've spent far too much money on many wonderful sessions with Cassidy and Lauren in the last year or so. They are just simply the best thing going on in GR. 100% top notch service by two very beautiful ladies.
Of course, we all want something new and shiny so I made an appointment with Phoenix this afternoon. She fits right in with these ladies. Had a great time. Very sensual like Lauren. Couple of quick notes.
Negative: she snuck in another appointment that kept me waiting 45 minutes past my scheduled time. I had the time free and she more than made it worth my while. But it did happen. If it had been earlier in the afternoon I couldn’t have waited and that would have been a problem
Positive: looking at her STG ad, particularly the second pic, I figured she was fairly plump. Not so at all. She needs to take other pics because she has an absolutely stunning body. Perfectly fit in every regard (cute girl as well).
Will repeat for sure. All 4 at Hunter's hideaway are the best. I haven't wandered anywhere else and don't want to. Very clean, and reasonably safe location.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/phoenix/171260885250
Member #6481
07-05-22, 22:22
Anyone ever seen her? Is this just Lauren by a different name?
https://tryst.link/massage/cassidy69jamesSame location but very different girls. Both fantastic.
Oh I can speak with great authority that Cassidy and Lauren are not the same person. While Lauren is the mild mannered reporter type (Clark Kent) and Cassidy is the woman of steel (torpedoes) they are NOT one and the same. Lauren has been reviewed numerous times by myself and other charter members of the "Lauren fan club". She is the more GFE of the two with the milder more tender demeanor. And Cassidy has had a strong showing in my reviews and recently several others who have been blown away by this tigress. She clearly is the PSE of the two, yelling my name loudly followed by "harder, harder" during one of our paramour episodes. They need to have an AED at that office (den of pleasures). And, of course, don't forget Hunter, the lioness of this jungle adventure. A cross of GFE / PSE. And now the new minx cub, Phoenix is being eased into the thrill ride cornucopia. Lots to explore. Lots to experience. Lots to contemplate. Lots to store in the memory bank. Now get out there and have some fun.
Enjoy.
G2.You will never learn will ya, saf.
You will never learn will ya, saf.Oh my education is ongoing. I've learned to enjoy the company of a beautiful woman and I've learned how to post a review about it. I've also learned how to post in response to another member's valid question. I've learned to listen to said beautiful woman and know what they might like or need. I've learned that all women appreciate a man who is freshly showered with newly laundered clothing. And while some women might call themselves a "biker chick" it means they like a motorcycle, not a bitter man with no redeeming qualities. I've learned that wine and spirits from Costco can be an excellent purchase. I've learned that many members here appreciate articulate reviews even if they are short on some details but long on the pleasure enjoyed and shared.
So my education continues and not just on the subtleties of spelling and grammar, but also on just being a happy person. I highly recommend it.
I'm here to help.
G2.
Michael1098
07-06-22, 11:13
Having a hard time doing recon on this one! Anyone have experience?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/thick-cuban-new-number
BashTheJohnson
07-06-22, 16:04
Can you confirm. Is this the Ashley at Serenity?
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/ashley-winter/447958295768
Phone 6163893518.
There's another Ashley. Looks hot as hell but says outcall only.
https://saginaw.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/visitingp-e-t-i-t-e-blonde/581020779948
646.450. 4387.
Thanks guys.Yes the first is Ashley is at Serenity. A few good but more bad reviews. The other Ashley I believe is from the East side, like Detroit / Ann Arbor area. She has been in GR like a month or so ago. Saw a few reviews. Seem to be real.
ThrobbinWood
07-06-22, 22:07
Is Alixx still around? I thought she retired?I recall she retired as well. Her name was mentioned by me more as her ability to support someone in need rather than escort with them.
Saw Skye again, as it has been such a long time. Not sure why I waited so long as she has the body type I desire. She is young and in shape. While not big she has a nice handlful on top which is nice considering her small frame. Took a few minutes to get her to warm up and remember me but once that passed she got really comfortable. Enjoyed having her on the table and practicing my skills. I was a little short on time so it went to quick and I didn't get to do all that I wanted. Will be back, just enjoy watching her receive her happy ending. I have found with her, connect with her and the experience is great. Very interactive and engaged in it.
Overall one of the better looking ones that has multiple options available.
She said they are slow due to their stg account not working. So great time to put your negotiating skills to use as they are looking for some $$ and you might get a bit of a price break.
New girl starting today, but have not seen her and can't make it in to review. Good opportunity for a new member to write a review.
I recall she retired as well. Her name was mentioned by me more as her ability to support someone in need rather than escort with them.Yes Alixx retired, my comments were based on great memories.
HamiltonPunk
07-07-22, 10:25
I messaged this one trying to set something up responded in a split second and wanted to know when I could come I told her I could come within 30 minutes if you just send me a face pic because after getting sketched out cause of how fast she responded back & the fact that I google searched her pics and numerous results same girl popped up. I asked for my picture. She proceeded to tell me " OK if you don't think they're real then don't come I really don't care I have a lot of people blowing up my phone I am who I posted".
Needless to say I wasn't trying to meet after that, and she lost a loyal reg. If anyone has anything positive for this one let me know or let me know if she is the girl in her pics.
Happy hunting.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/let-me-take-care-of-you-today/564413359140
I messaged this one trying to set something up responded in a split second and wanted to know when I could come I told her I could come within 30 minutes if you just send me a face pic because after getting sketched out cause of how fast she responded back & the fact that I google searched her pics and numerous results same girl popped up. I asked for my picture. She proceeded to tell me " OK if you don't think they're real then don't come I really don't care I have a lot of people blowing up my phone I am who I posted".
Needless to say I wasn't trying to meet after that, and she lost a loyal reg. If anyone has anything positive for this one let me know or let me know if she is the girl in her pics.
Happy hunting.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/let-me-take-care-of-you-today/564413359140That is LINA at Wonder. You can see her other ad's to see additional pictures. From Personal experience, she is a HARD NO. I will never repeat! You were smart and saved $$$ and will be much happier. Stay Safe.
Was able to get a few pictures. But wanted to give a new member the chance to review first.
Layla is open minded based on your desires.
1st day today but available Friday or Sat. Who wants it?
Pm me if you do not have number at Luxe. They are open but stg account is frozen so no ads currently.
SteveLee99
07-07-22, 21:44
Have had several stellar appointments at BBU, mostly with Brit. Had some extra time and cash tonight and drove by to see if the sunflower was out. It was! Hustled home to get my cash stash and gave a call. They were available and indicated two choices, Coco and Eve. I opted for Eve but have never met either. Told her I would be there in ten minutes flat. So make a mad dash over there. Sunflower is gone and apparently so is Eve! Door is locked. Rang the door bell which appears to be a "Ring" and a girl answers, Eve I guess, and says she got hungry and went out to eat and would be back in exactly ten minutes. Most SP ten minutes means 20-30. Opted not to stay and told her I was leaving. Very disappointed. YMMV.
I've spent far too much money on many wonderful sessions with Cassidy and Lauren in the last year or so. They are just simply the best thing going on in GR. 100% top notch service by two very beautiful ladies.
Of course, we all want something new and shiny so I made an appointment with Phoenix this afternoon. She fits right in with these ladies. Had a great time. Very sensual like Lauren. Couple of quick notes.
Negative: she snuck in another appointment that kept me waiting 45 minutes past my scheduled time. I had the time free and she more than made it worth my while. But it did happen. If it had been earlier in the afternoon I couldnt have waited and that would have been a problem
Positive: looking at her STG ad, particularly the second pic, I figured she was fairly plump. Not so at all. She needs to take other pics because she has an absolutely stunning body. Perfectly fit in every regard (cute girl as well).
Will repeat for sure. All 4 at Hunter's hideaway are the best. I haven't wandered anywhere else and don't want to. Very clean, and reasonably safe location.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/phoenix/171260885250I saw her today and was very impressed. Will repeat for sure.
Hollywood55
07-08-22, 08:00
I saw Milan, and it was an hour well spent. She is gorgeous, intelligent, kind, and sexy, all wrapped into one. She quickly picked up on the technique I wanted for the massage, and our conversation was a bonus. As others have said, she brings a great attitude into the room.MontanaSlim,
Thank you so much for your kind words and showing me a new technique! It was so nice to meet you!
Milan <3.
Hollywood55
07-08-22, 08:04
Had a long overdue appointment with Milan last weekend. Been meaning to see her for awhile, but our schedules just didn't match up.
She surprised me with a new hair color since I had last seen her, took a min to get used to it, but it looks great on her.
Still as sexy as always with those long slender legs and thin spinner body. She is also someone who generally cares about your health and well being.
And will work on any sore spots with the care of a professional.
You're guaranteed to leave happy and feeling much better looking forward to my next visit.Stb421,
You are always a delight to see. Thank you so much for your kind words. I really like reading how people truly feel about me. It makes me reflect on the things I need to improve on and lets me know what I am doing to make them happy. Thank you again sweetie!
Milan<3.
Have had several stellar appointments at BBU, mostly with Brit. Had some extra time and cash tonight and drove by to see if the sunflower was out. It was! Hustled home to get my cash stash and gave a call. They were available and indicated two choices, Coco and Eve. I opted for Eve but have never met either. Told her I would be there in ten minutes flat. So make a mad dash over there. Sunflower is gone and apparently so is Eve! Door is locked. Rang the door bell which appears to be a "Ring" and a girl answers, Eve I guess, and says she got hungry and went out to eat and would be back in exactly ten minutes. Most SP ten minutes means 20-30. Opted not to stay and told her I was leaving. Very disappointed. YMMV.None of us like to wait, but it's a reality of not just this business but any business now. A doctors office with only a ten minute wait beyond my scheduled time would be a pleasant departure from the norm. A ten minute wait for my tire rotation appointment at Costco would be great (last one was 45 minutes delayed). Even the express checkout line at Meijer will often exceed ten minutes. Most posters here recognize that reality and adjust their expectations accordingly. And they would then wait in their car for ten minutes perhaps returning emails or phone calls. Next thing you know, Eve would be bringing you to happy time. I would suggest this strategy to avoid your stated "very disappointed" result. YMMV is much better for those of us with just a modicum of patience. You missed out.
Just one man's opinion.
G2.
Love The Lips
07-08-22, 13:27
Has anybody seen Ava lately at Panacea? It's been quite a while for me and she's kind of the go to for the big boobs there now. Just wondering if her menu has expanded lately?
She haven't been posting any info?
LandRover20
07-09-22, 12:40
I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.
I can echo this experience almost exactly. The guy who did my golf club fitting drew Ashley recently after another provider bailed on him last minute. Says she was attentive, friendly, and made sure to ask more than once if he was getting what he needed. Didn't check on the boundaries of her menu, just there for standard service. She even employed a brand of dirty talk that he had never heard before and would never have guessed he would like. But I guess it turned him right the fuck on and got him right the fuck off. Interesting how she knew that.
I can echo this experience almost exactly. The guy who did my golf club fitting drew Ashley recently after another provider bailed on him last minute. Says she was attentive, friendly, and made sure to ask more than once if he was getting what he needed. Didn't check on the boundaries of her menu, just there for standard service. She even employed a brand of dirty talk that he had never heard before and would never have guessed he would like. But I guess it turned him right the fuck on and got him right the fuck off. Interesting how she knew that.Hey LandRover, you might like her too.
I remember you frequently questioning about providers teeth.
Ashley has braces to perfect a smile I thought was perfect already.
I saw her today and was very impressed. Will repeat for sure.I think that may be my next session, if I can get it scheduled. That would make it a quadfecta there.
Originally from GR but living in TN. Up for a few days. Can anyone give me some details on Luxe? Who to see there? (Saw the post about Layla and she looks great! Can anyone PM a phone number, precise location, fees, etc? Thanks in advance.
She haven't been posting any info?She just hasn't been posting but she's still there.
Hey LandRover, you might like her too.
I remember you frequently questioning about providers teeth.
Ashley has braces to perfect a smile I thought was perfect already.When I first and only time, I saw Ashley I kind of felt ripped off. During our phone conversation, we discussed full service and she wholeheartedly agreed. When I was there, she was hot and provided a decent massage, and on the flip she started massaging JR. Which was also nice, and I encouraged her to hop on the table with me, and she looked at me weird, and said I am not a hooker. I reminded her of our phone conversation and that she said FS was available. She said the handy was full service. Instead of hassling her about it, I just took the handy and left. Her hourly rate was way too high for a handy.
Granted this was over 2 years ago, and I support and respect a girls boundaries, but don't tell a guy that full service is available and not provide it. She was fairly new, so maybe she didn't understand what FS was. But I am not paying over 2 almost 3 bills for a handy.
Saw Lauren this weekend after a cancellation from Phoenix. I'm very glad Lauren was able to fill in. She's a goddess. I can't wait for Phoenix though.
Hey guys, I got to see Lexi recently. Many of you will remember her from Panacea. She is working at Touch of Paradise now, under the name Christy (Christie, Christi for the search engine).
In case you have missed visiting with her, as I have, she is just as cute, fun, and spunky as ever. Actually moreso. She seems to have even more energy and positive good vibes.
Definitely check her out. And if you want help scheduling with her, PM me, and I can share her contact info.
WildPlayer
07-11-22, 09:24
Lately Brit has been putting in her ad, edible ending is back for limited time. What does that mean? BJ? PM me if you wish. Thanks.
Lately Brit has been putting in her ad, edible ending is back for limited time. What does that mean? BJ? PM me if you wish. Thanks.Edibles. Like marijuana brownies, cookies etc. She used to give them to customers as a marketing thing a few years ago.
But to your question on BJ or other enhanced ending to the massage, that's always been available. Mostly that's just a matter of how much money you want to spend.
TonyReality
07-11-22, 09:55
Lately Brit has been putting in her ad, edible ending is back for limited time. What does that mean? BJ? PM me if you wish. Thanks.It means what it says. It's not a BJ. She did this a while back and is offering them again after a session.
LandRover20
07-11-22, 10:15
Hey LandRover, you might like her too.
I remember you frequently questioning about providers teeth.
Ashley has braces to perfect a smile I thought was perfect already.Benz, yes, my club fitter's review has piqued my interest. I'm going to chew on the idea for a bit.
FishingForSome
07-11-22, 12:21
Back in that area visiting family. I know you all extoll on the virtues on the few gals, but I am an AMP guy. Always have been with the exception of Amyna's Touch from a long while ago.
Tried Lotus, as there used to be a late 40's with great cans there. Mamason answered the door and Mamason is looking old and haggard. I know there are some out there that will, but it just wasn't in me this trip. I am not young, but I know what I am willing to spend my money on, and this was not it. Didn't even go inside as she said she was the only one on.
Next up was the reliable Relax Massage. Paid the door for 1/2 hour and left the. 6 on the table when I got undressed. Drew Angela (Angelique) Late 30/ early40's. She said she was 36, but debatable. Passable medium / firm massage, with some teasing. No issues / no haggling on the flip. Under the clothing roaming allowed. I am sure you can expand the menu with more tips, but was't really feeling it. Just needed release, and Relax was there and available.
Anyone got any other AMP suggestions for me. And of course, will be catching up by RTFF.
Stay Safe.
Fish.
LoveSloppyLast
07-11-22, 15:14
Has anybody seen Ava lately at Panacea? It's been quite a while for me and she's kind of the go to for the big boobs there now. Just wondering if her menu has expanded lately?I saw her ad on STG and it specifically states no FS or oral.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/ava-at-panacea/296565922163
Back in that area visiting family. I know you all extoll on the virtues on the few gals, but I am an AMP guy. Always have been with the exception of Amyna's Touch from a long while ago.
Tried Lotus, as there used to be a late 40's with great cans there. Mamason answered the door and Mamason is looking old and haggard. I know there are some out there that will, but it just wasn't in me this trip. I am not young, but I know what I am willing to spend my money on, and this was not it. Didn't even go inside as she said she was the only one on.
Next up was the reliable Relax Massage. Paid the door for 1/2 hour and left the. 6 on the table when I got undressed. Drew Angela (Angelique) Late 30/ early40's. She said she was 36, but debatable. Passable medium / firm massage, with some teasing. No issues / no haggling on the flip. Under the clothing roaming allowed. I am sure you can expand the menu with more tips, but was't really feeling it. Just needed release, and Relax was there and available.
Anyone got any other AMP suggestions for me. And of course, will be catching up by RTFF.
Stay Safe.
Fish.Magic hands on Michigan. Great massage and finish. Have not tried yet but I've heard extras might be available with mya. The other two I've seen there are a standard finish.
Love The Lips
07-12-22, 06:17
I saw her ad on STG and it specifically states no FS or oral.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/ava-at-panacea/296565922163Remember, what's stated in the ad and what happens in the room when tips are involved, are often two very different things.
Can someone forward me their number since they can't seem to post on STG anymore.
Member #6481
07-12-22, 12:28
Can someone forward me their number since they can't seem to post on STG anymore.I would like to know as well. Please PM if numbers can't be posted.
I would like to know as well. Please PM if numbers can't be posted.Most of these girls post that they don't do this or that. But in the room between two people. The tune changed when tips are involved.
Where and who would you recommend seeing? Curious what everyone's preference is.
Sent you the number. Luxe still can't post on Stg but they are open all week.
I would like to know as well. Please PM if numbers can't be posted..
I would like to know as well. Please PM if numbers can't be posted.I found this ad from six months ago. Maybe others can chime in if the number is still accurate. If so then everyone doesn't need PM from BoatGuy. He's got to be busy with all those beautiful women to see!
https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/sasha-monday-luxe-come-relax-with-us/43478558
G2.
Where and who would you recommend seeing? Curious what everyone's preference is.I currently like everyone at Serenity.
Milan, Alley, Ashley and Hayley. I have pics of all the ladies but no permission to share yet.
Haven't been to Lux for your comparison.
Where and who would you recommend seeing? Curious what everyone's preference is.
1. The independents working on Butterworth Street (Hunters Den) - Lauren, Cassidy James, Hunter (semi-retired), and now Phoenix. Set prices. No negotiation needed. Beautiful nude women. Massage with body slide AND upgraded menu items without upcharge.
2. BodyworkByUs. Set prices, no negotiation involved. Beautiful nude women performing wonderful massage and body slide and/or HJ/Russian finish.
So. My answer would be "neither Luxe nor Serenity." Don't get me wrong; Serenity and Luxe are both great places but they can't compete with the two I noted above, each of my two fills a different niche. Both BodyworkByUs and Hunters Den have consistent pricing and consistent quality. Each fills a need and many clients see providers at each place.
It kind of reminds me of Charles Barkley and Patrick Ewing. Both HOF basketball players. But they competed against Michael Jordan, and Hakeem Olijuwan. So they both have no championship rings. If Michael wasn't around, they both would have won championships. So luxe and Serenity would be booming if they were in Kalamazoo or Lansing. But here they are battling for third place. And it's a distant third. Especially when you compare pricing. And service. And value for service per price point.
Just my opinion. But, of course, I'm right.
G2.
MwmForHotFun
07-12-22, 16:56
Hi,
I'm in GR this week for work. Is there anything to be found downtown? I'm staying at the Marriott. Looking for AMPs or either hotel ladies that are reliable, clean, and fun. Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
Member #6611
07-12-22, 19:51
Remember, what's stated in the ad and what happens in the room when tips are involved, are often two very different things.It's Panacea dude. No FS / No Oral is the rule there.
Hi,
I'm in GR this week for work. Is there anything to be found downtown? I'm staying at the Marriott. Looking for AMPs or either hotel ladies that are reliable, clean, and fun. Any info is appreciated. Thanks!Parkway Tropics is an easy in / out strip club. Tame by comparison to other towns, but still fun. Some gals there visit outside too. Be very discrete when discussing an outside date there.
Serenity and Panacea are relatively short drives north, if you are mobile. Take Benz' advice on Serenity, and see Kayla, Ava, Aliese, Kelly, Natalie, or Melissa at Panacea. Best place in town is a little shop called Bodywork by Us, where all the gals are angels and fun. Also Hunter has a very nice shop. Search for Hunter, Cassidy, Phoenix and Lauren on STG and here for more on them (Gene is the authority on Hunter's gals). These last two places require planning and scheduling ahead (sometimes BbU takes walk ins). Luxe Bodyworks is another strong contender, but bring extra cash.
One of our all time GOATs is Lexi / Christi. Check her out if you can catch her! https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/christi/112955013128.
Welcome to our town, and hope you find some fun.
Hey guys, I got to see Lexi recently. Many of you will remember her from Panacea. She is working at Touch of Paradise now, under the name Christy (Christie, Christi for the search engine).
In case you have missed visiting with her, as I have, she is just as cute, fun, and spunky as ever. Actually moreso. She seems to have even more energy and positive good vibes.
Definitely check her out. And if you want help scheduling with her, PM me, and I can share her contact info.No need to PM me for contact info anymore. Lexi is posting ads on STG now. Here's a link: https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/christi/112955013128. My in box could use the break, LOL.
Please note, Lexi offers fun HE massage. Even though her ad appears in the escort section, that is Not her game.
Hi,
I'm in GR this week for work. Is there anything to be found downtown? I'm staying at the Marriott. Looking for AMPs or either hotel ladies that are reliable, clean, and fun. Any info is appreciated. Thanks!I see Tommey gave you some great options. I will try to augment his data without just repeating. I also see you posted this in massage, not escort. If you are looking for only massage with HJ or CBJ (usually not first visit) you might try Delilah aka ebony massage. Beautiful AA woman who has been described as a swimsuit model body with actual massage therapy skills. She's located on Fulton street just east of division in a very safe setting. Need to Prebook.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/?keywords=Ebony
Also nearby you is Hunters Den. It's on a butterworth street probably five minutes from you. My go to is Lauren. Lots written about her but her hours are limited and she's very popular. And not usually available on evenings although might be early evening Thursdays.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/726747218204
At the same location with more flexible hours is Hunter. Also a good menu.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/prostate-massage-week-with-hun/241587374615
If you want more traditional (limited menu) massage services then BodyworkByUs is your best option. Up front pricing. It's on 36th st SW about ten minutes from you.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/walk-ins-at-bbu/100196707307
If you're looking for an outcall, most of us don't have experience with that.
Hope that helps.
G2.
Magic hands on Michigan. Great massage and finish. Have not tried yet but I've heard extras might be available with mya. The other two I've seen there are a standard finish.Saw Mya; a little older than the average provider, but nice looking, great titties, a little extra around the middle but not too bad. Speaks enough English to have some conversation. MS was very good, just had to remind her to lighten up a couple times (just my preference); little to no tease until the flip. Finally found someone that didn't go directly to HE. Did some nice frontal MS, then to the boys a number of times, then to johnson. Non rushed, great touch, unlimited roaming. After the big event, continued with some nice frontal MS; actually went over the hour by 10 minutes.
Hi,
I'm in GR this week for work. Is there anything to be found downtown? I'm staying at the Marriott. Looking for AMPs or either hotel ladies that are reliable, clean, and fun. Any info is appreciated. Thanks!I see Tommey gave you some great options. I will try to augment his data without just repeating. I also see you posted this in massage, not escort. If you are looking for only massage with HJ or CBJ (usually not first visit) you might try Delilah aka ebony massage. Beautiful AA woman who has been described as a swimsuit model body with actual massage therapy skills. She's located on Fulton street just east of division in a very safe setting. Need to Prebook.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/?keywords=Ebony
Also nearby you is Hunters Den. It's on a butterworth street probably five minutes from you. My go to is Lauren. Lots written about her but her hours are limited and she's very popular. And not usually available on evenings although might be early evening Thursdays.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/726747218204
At the same location with more flexible hours is Hunter. Also a good menu.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/prostate-massage-week-with-hun/241587374615
If you want more traditional (limited menu) massage services then BodyworkByUs is your best option. Up front pricing. It's on 36th st SW about ten minutes from you.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/walk-ins-at-bbu/100196707307
If you're looking for an outcall, most of us don't have experience with that.
Hope that helps.
G2.
MwmForHotFun
07-13-22, 07:49
Much appreciated. I really appreciate the advice.
I see Tommey gave you some great options. I will try to augment his data without just repeating. I also see you posted this in massage, not escort. If you are looking for only massage with HJ or CBJ (usually not first visit) you might try Delilah aka ebony massage. Beautiful AA woman who has been described as a swimsuit model body with actual massage therapy skills. She's located on Fulton street just east of division in a very safe setting. Need to Prebook.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/?keywords=Ebony
Also nearby you is Hunters Den. It's on a butterworth street probably five minutes from you. My go to is Lauren. Lots written about her but her hours are limited and she's very popular. And not usually available on evenings although might be early evening Thursdays.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/726747218204
At the same location with more flexible hours is Hunter. Also a good menu.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/prostate-massage-week-with-hun/241587374615
If you want more traditional (limited menu) massage services then BodyworkByUs is your best option. Up front pricing. It's on 36th st SW about ten minutes from you.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/walk-ins-at-bbu/100196707307
If you're looking for an outcall, most of us don't have experience with that.
Hope that helps.
G2.
MwmForHotFun
07-13-22, 07:50
Thanks so much! No car here so Ill look to uber after calling and checking in. I appreciate it!
Parkway Tropics is an easy in / out strip club. Tame by comparison to other towns, but still fun. Some gals there visit outside too. Be very discrete when discussing an outside date there.
Serenity and Panacea are relatively short drives north, if you are mobile. Take Benz' advice on Serenity, and see Kayla, Ava, Aliese, Kelly, Natalie, or Melissa at Panacea. Best place in town is a little shop called Bodywork by Us, where all the gals are angels and fun. Also Hunter has a very nice shop. Search for Hunter, Cassidy, Phoenix and Lauren on STG and here for more on them (Gene is the authority on Hunter's gals). These last two places require planning and scheduling ahead (sometimes BbU takes walk ins). Luxe Bodyworks is another strong contender, but bring extra cash.
One of our all time GOATs is Lexi / Christi. Check her out if you can catch her! https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/christi/112955013128.
Welcome to our town, and hope you find some fun.
Electronman
07-13-22, 07:53
I was traveling on East 28th Street and stopped at Healthy Habits on impulse. This massage parlor is located in a small shopping center. It doesn't get much attention on this forum so I entered having no idea what to expect. Mamasan greeted me and took $40 for a 30 minute massage. The massage room was comfortable and well equipped. I was lying face down when the masseuse entered. She was a bit chubby for my tastes and I might have bailed had I seen her before agreeing to a session. I'm glad that I stayed. It turns out that she gave a good massage and provided services well beyond the standard GR massage.
I tend to prefer more slender women but the experience at Healthy Habits was quite good. I don't know what other "talent" is working at Health Habits, as this was my first and only visit.
If you like more full figured women, you can have a good time here.
Where and who would you recommend seeing? Curious what everyone's preference is.Sorry to see you didn't get a real answer to your comparison.
Has anyone been to Lux and Serenity that can give Rossm a direct comparison.
Stevede and myself would like to know too, I've been to Serenity but not to Lux.
Sparty On 1234
07-13-22, 09:35
I agree with previous post. Delilah has a very hot body. Looks like a SI swim suit model. Good massage. Safe location. Great rack and nice ass. You need to get to know her and see her a couple of times and she will give you an amazing, covered BJ to finish. Very nice girl. Will see again and again. Good luck. Typically give her $2. 5 to $$$ for massage and finish. She is worth the cost. Enjoy!
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/?keywords=Ebony
Sorry to see you didn't get a real answer to your comparison.
Has anyone been to Lux and Serenity that can give Rossm a direct comparison.
Stevede and myself would like to know too, I've been to Serenity but not to Lux.Ok. I'll play along.
Serenity. Higher percentage of thin spinner types. Typically lower cost than Luxe. But typically a lesser menu than Luxe. Longer established place with a known address, even on yelp. Very clean rooms and lobby. However it is located where privacy requires some planning where to park if you have an obvious vehicle. Tends to have a higher turnover rate of providers. And a higher percentage of negative reviews. Has Ashley Winter, who Benz adores (rightfully so) but who has burned bridges with a large number of mongers. Biggest advantage is pricing, but that still requires negotiating and potential for a monger to have a weakened stance for negotiating if such start only when he's nude and aroused. Milan seems like the all star right now, but Hayley is a HOF provider.
Luxe. Higher percentage of full figured women but a few spinners as well. Typically higher cost but more open menu. Less known address but more anonymity for parking. Highly rated women who offer varied options that are usually negotiated up front so negotiating stance for monger is better. Downside is that you can’t text to set an appointment. And phone calling can be complicated because STG posting issues which include the puzzling practice of taking down prior ads (Vicky should know to keep old ads active so we can access them). Sasha, Vicky, Jenny, Skye, Layla and Jaida have all had positive reviews and plenty of loyal clients here. Biggest advantage is more open menu and less turnover on the roster.
So. Who wins? Well it depends on what your priorities are. If pricing is the key, then Serenity wins. If variety of providers and open menu is the key, then Luxe is. Based upon all the factors presented on the various reviews here, Luxe wins.
But keep in mind, this is a battle for third and fourth place (maybe even fifth place as Panacea is making a good run, and Christi is bringing ToP into the conversation). So this whole discussion is somewhat moot. Because BodyworkByUs is similar model as Serenity but far superior. And Hunters Den is similar model to Luxe but far superior.
So in the battle for the consolation bracket, this should help comparison shopping. But if you're more interested in the big leagues than the minors, then move on up to Hunters Den or BodyworkByUs for the Allstar treatment at a better cost than the bronze medal winner. When you can get better service at a lower cost. Why would you need to debate this?
That being said, we all know that we have certain favorites that provide either fetishes or something special for just you. Or other dynamics may include that a monger has a rift with the owner of the place (s) and would never go there. Or a monger had a bad experience with one provider and is reticent to return to the place, even to see another provider there. So in cases like that, third and fourth place might be good options. But it doesn't change the fact that first and second place have already been claimed by other parlors.
Once again. Just my opinion.
G2.
Ok. I'll play along.
Serenity. Higher percentage of thin spinner types. Typically lower cost than Luxe. But typically a lesser menu than Luxe. Longer established place with a known address, even on yelp. Very clean rooms and lobby. However it is located where privacy requires some planning where to park if you have an obvious vehicle. Tends to have a higher turnover rate of providers. And a higher percentage of negative reviews. Has Ashley Winter, who Benz adores (rightfully so) but who has burned bridges with a large number of mongers. Biggest advantage is pricing, but that still requires negotiating and potential for a monger to have a weakened stance for negotiating if such start only when he's nude and aroused. Milan seems like the all star right now, but Hayley is a HOF provider.
Luxe. Higher percentage of full figured women but a few spinners as well. Typically higher cost but more open menu. Less known address but more anonymity for parking.
So. Who wins? Well it depends on what your priorities are. If pricing is the key, then Serenity wins.
Once again. Just my opinion.
G2.If you drive by and look at the parking near Serenity lot nextdoor, you'll see plenty of anonymous parking.
Yes I do like Ashley Winter because her massage and prostate massage are perfect for me. She knows exactly what I like.
Other providers could do the same if they focused the client instead of just the tip.
Something left out of the comparison, I can walk in at Serenity, no verification process and no appointment needed.
I prefer to stay off the database at the other places
Where and who would you recommend seeing? Curious what everyone's preference is.If anyone has a straight answer to compare Serenity and Lux. Stevede, Rossm and myself would love to read it.
I started going to serenity for convenience, drove by twice a day. I liked every session, I was clear about what I wanted and showed providers how I want my massage. Providers that care will pay attention to detail. I'm a serious critic of massage techniques. A bunch of circles on my back don't cut it.
I can't write a comparison, I've been to Serenity, haven't been to Lux.
Thank you in advance.
Is the the same Star that someone posted a while back wore gloves during the massage / HE? I think this one is at the Meditation Station. Anybody seen her? Thanks.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/just-ask-for-starr-6167190350/457180778259
If anyone has a straight answer to compare Serenity and Lux. Stevede, Rossm and myself would love to read it.
I started going to serenity for convenience, drove by twice a day. I liked every session, I was clear about what I wanted and showed providers how I want my massage. Providers that care will pay attention to detail. I'm a serious critic of massage techniques. A bunch of circles on my back don't cut it.
I can't write a comparison, I've been to Serenity, haven't been to Lux.
Thank you in advance.Luxe is for people who care more about the extras than the massage.
However, Hunter's place gets you similar mileage for less $ so if it wasnt for sasha sending me sexy pics all the time I probably wouldn't ever go back. Phoenix is a similar performer for half the cost.
DorianGray907
07-13-22, 21:31
For me Milan is like a 1950's house wife. She is sweet caring tender wants to know you but not just you your soul. I had a wonderful hour with her. Didn't try and or ask for extras just had a relaxing full hour with a beautiful woman. Feel free to pm me with questions.
Stroker417
07-13-22, 21:38
Count me in on her fan club. I'm an old fart and she made me feel like a youngster from the get-go. Everything that's been said about he is true. She is an exotic, erotic sex machine. I wish I was younger and still working so I could afford to be with her more often and could keep up with this dynamo. She says she likes sex and it is SO true. Not only does she have a great bod but she is fantastic looking.
Luxe is for people who care more about the extras than the massage.
However, Hunter's place gets you similar mileage for less $ so if it wasnt for sasha sending me sexy pics all the time I probably wouldn't ever go back. Phoenix is a similar performer for half the cost.Great example of what I've been saying. The bang for the buck is at Hunter's Den and BodyworkByUs. The continued contention about the consolation round is puzzling to me. Luxe and Serenity are fine. But they represent the junior varsity. Now I know that isn't the answer some posters want to hear, but it's at least my honest opinion. And it's a straight answer. And you've validated that assertion. Not everyone here will hold the same opinion I do, which is not only expected, but it's beneficial to all of us to have varying viewpoints expressed. But a straight answer assumes the question is straight. An honest answer with details about the services rendered, the pricing, and the quality of the providers checks all the boxes. Of course, as I noted in a prior post, if a rift exists, then a truly objective viewpoint will be impossible. As a poster who has tasted the entrees at all four (actually all six I referenced) establishments, I have provided my straight answers. That doesn't mean I'm right. Just means I'm willing to post my answer and the evidence to back up my conclusions. I stand by my ratings. And I have no issue visiting the fourth place establishment from time to time. Variety is the spice of life. And sometimes it reminds me how good the top two really are. Stevede and Rossm. I appreciate your recognition of the answers I've provided.
G2.
WestMichguy
07-13-22, 23:07
I had seen her way back in January and had a good appointment with Eris vouching for me. For lots of reasons, I didn't see her again until today and I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to see her again!
I was going to be a few minutes late due to construction so we texted a few times and she assured me it was not a problem that I would be late and that I should drive safely. I never like to be late so it helped that she actually answered my text and let me know it wasn't a problem.
Fortunately, she has a good memory and she remembered me so we picked up right where we left off in January. She's a cool chick with a good sense of humor and is easy to talk with. She is open to suggestions during the appointment and she seemed to enjoy it. But not as much as I did! I definitely won't let 6 months go by before I see her again! Standard pricing for BBU and worth every penny.
Luxe is for people who care more about the extras than the massage.
However, Hunter's place gets you similar mileage for less $ so if it wasnt for sasha sending me sexy pics all the time I probably wouldn't ever go back. Phoenix is a similar performer for half the cost.Nobody would see him at hunters place LMAO sure he will attempt to explain.
JustinCase69
07-14-22, 01:22
I had seen her way back in January and had a good appointment with Eris vouching for me. For lots of reasons, I didn't see her again until today and I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to see her again!
I was going to be a few minutes late due to construction so we texted a few times and she assured me it was not a problem that I would be late and that I should drive safely. I never like to be late so it helped that she actually answered my text and let me know it wasn't a problem.
Fortunately, she has a good memory and she remembered me so we picked up right where we left off in January. She's a cool chick with a good sense of humor and is easy to talk with. She is open to suggestions during the appointment and she seemed to enjoy it. But not as much as I did! I definitely won't let 6 months go by before I see her again! Standard pricing for BBU and worth every penny.Could you describe her a little bit more please? BBU seems to have a roster change, don't see my favorite Eris and Kenzie on the list anymore. I wonder what happened. I like attractive Caucasians with nice figures and real Bobs, I wonder if anyone from BBU fits my categories right now.
I had seen her way back in January and had a good appointment with Eris vouching for me. For lots of reasons, I didn't see her again until today and I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to see her again!
I was going to be a few minutes late due to construction so we texted a few times and she assured me it was not a problem that I would be late and that I should drive safely. I never like to be late so it helped that she actually answered my text and let me know it wasn't a problem.
Fortunately, she has a good memory and she remembered me so we picked up right where we left off in January. She's a cool chick with a good sense of humor and is easy to talk with. She is open to suggestions during the appointment and she seemed to enjoy it. But not as much as I did! I definitely won't let 6 months go by before I see her again! Standard pricing for BBU and worth every penny.Thanks for the review on Athena. Her pics on STG have definitely caught my eye in the past, but if / when I have time to slip away and indulge in this hobby, it's usually during the day and it seems her earliest appointment is about 4 PM or later. Wish she had earlier openings. However, your review along with others, and the fact that she looks great in her pics, makes me think I really need to adjust my schedule one evening soon.
Could you describe her a little bit more please? BBU seems to have a roster change, don't see my favorite Eris and Kenzie on the list anymore. I wonder what happened. I like attractive Caucasians with nice figures and real Bobs, I wonder if anyone from BBU fits my categories right now.I don't know why BBU compels so many guys to make their first posts about them. But good questions, I'll be looking forward to their or their surrogates reply. And we'll possibly get an update on what Eris and Kenzie are doing! And when they'll be available again!
Could you describe her a little bit more please? BBU seems to have a roster change, don't see my favorite Eris and Kenzie on the list anymore. I wonder what happened. I like attractive Caucasians with nice figures and real Bobs, I wonder if anyone from BBU fits my categories right now.You could try Sarah. She's Caucasian, with real boobs and nice curves. Well reviewed on here. I've seen her and can attest to a very nice experience. She also has an ad on Tryst.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/come-relax-sarah/021560826998
WestMichguy
07-14-22, 10:57
Thanks for the review on Athena. Her pics on STG have definitely caught my eye in the past, but if / when I have time to slip away and indulge in this hobby, it's usually during the day and it seems her earliest appointment is about 4 PM or later. Wish she had earlier openings. However, your review along with others, and the fact that she looks great in her pics, makes me think I really need to adjust my schedule one evening soon.Yeah, she has a full time day job so she only does evenings.
WestMichguy
07-14-22, 11:16
I don't know why BBU compels so many guys to make their first posts about them. But good questions, I'll be looking forward to their or their surrogates reply. And we'll possibly get an update on what Eris and Kenzie are doing! And when they'll be available again!If you're looking for a Caucasian girl with a big smile, athletic body (she says she needs to get back to working out more but I'd love to be in as good a shape as she is), natural mom boobs and smooth all over. All with a great attitude. Then Athena is your girl. If you prefer ugly girls with crappy service, you'll want to look elsewhere! She said I could share her phone number so PM me if you're interested.
I think the only other factor missing from these summaries is that sometimes you connect with someone that might be at the number 3 or 4 place that keeps your visitng. There is at least one gem at each that satisfy my needs.
For example, just visited Luxe because I was looking for a bit of variety and something that they offer. Sadly their stg account is still down so they are slow, but on the good side, got the time I wanted and price.
Great example of what I've been saying. The bang for the buck is at Hunter's Den and BodyworkByUs. The continued contention about the consolation round is puzzling to me. Luxe and Serenity are fine. But they represent the junior varsity. Now I know that isn't the answer some posters want to hear, but it's at least my honest opinion. And it's a straight answer. And you've validated that assertion. Not everyone here will hold the same opinion I do, which is not only expected, but it's beneficial to all of us to have varying viewpoints expressed. But a straight answer assumes the question is straight. An honest answer with details about the services rendered, the pricing, and the quality of the providers checks all the boxes. Of course, as I noted in a prior post, if a rift exists, then a truly objective viewpoint will be impossible. As a poster who has tasted the entrees at all four (actually all six I referenced) establishments, I have provided my straight answers. That doesn't mean I'm right. Just means I'm willing to post my answer and the evidence to back up my conclusions. I stand by my ratings. And I have no issue visiting the fourth place establishment from time to time. Variety is the spice of life. And sometimes it reminds me how good the top two really are. Stevede and Rossm. I appreciate your recognition of the answers I've provided.
G2.
I think the only other factor missing from these summaries is that sometimes you connect with someone that might be at the number 3 or 4 place that keeps your visitng. There is at least one gem at each that satisfy my needs.
For example, just visited Luxe because I was looking for a bit of variety and something that they offer. Sadly their stg account is still down so they are slow, but on the good side, got the time I wanted and price.Thanks for pointing that out. It would appear my dogmatic response to a dogmatic statement of dissension allowed me to make the same errant statement, albeit from a different vantage point. I do see that both Luxe and Serenity have merit and fill certain niches. I should not have resorted to sweeping statements that disregard what these two fine establishments bring to us, the end user. While we each may have certain favorites, we shouldn't ignore the other solid performers. And I should recognize that we are best served to find the benefits in several places, so that if we have a falling out at one, we have viable options going forward. In all fairness I have not seen some of the girls at Luxe and it's been some time since I've darkened the door at Serenity. It was likely one or two Ashley Winter seasons since I've been there.
So. Point well taken.
G2.
Thanks for the review on Athena. Her pics on STG have definitely caught my eye in the past, but if / when I have time to slip away and indulge in this hobby, it's usually during the day and it seems her earliest appointment is about 4 PM or later. Wish she had earlier openings. However, your review along with others, and the fact that she looks great in her pics, makes me think I really need to adjust my schedule one evening soon.Check out BodyworkByUs website. Athena is available tomorrow morning and early afternoon. Strike while the iron is hot! (Or insert your favorite idiomatic expression here).
G2.
An experience when she is well hydrated.
Check out BodyworkByUs website. Athena is available tomorrow morning and early afternoon. Strike while the iron is hot! (Or insert your favorite idiomatic expression here).
G2.
MrLimpBiscuit
07-14-22, 22:03
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lily/883801252582 any info on this hottie?. Pm me please.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/see-the-one-and-only-cassidy/863510775178
Bros. This little Spanish girl is, freal. Menu opens more on repeat visits.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lily/883801252582 any info on this hottie?. Pm me please.She looks. Interesting!
Could you describe her a little bit more please? BBU seems to have a roster change, don't see my favorite Eris and Kenzie on the list anymore. I wonder what happened. I like attractive Caucasians with nice figures and real Bobs, I wonder if anyone from BBU fits my categories right now.Eris and Kenzie are still working with BBU. I haven't seen them listed on Brit's website lately either but they post their ad on SkipTheGames weekly. Last few times I booked with one of them I texted them directly.
Thanks for the review on Athena. Her pics on STG have definitely caught my eye in the past, but if / when I have time to slip away and indulge in this hobby, it's usually during the day and it seems her earliest appointment is about 4 PM or later. Wish she had earlier openings. However, your review along with others, and the fact that she looks great in her pics, makes me think I really need to adjust my schedule one evening soon.She had an ad for this morning saying she was available from 7 AM till 3 PM. Today only.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/i-promise-your-massage-with-me/974039053790
Any info on this one.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lily/883801252582 any info on this hottie?. Pm me please.Sorry, I can't help you out with intel, but I've noticed her ads. If you see her, please report back and let us know how it was. Thanks.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/i-promise-your-massage-with-me/974039053790
Any info on this one.I saw her a couple of years ago. She was a very nice lady, fairly accommodating. The experience was quite lack luster, a mild back rub with two minute bbj and it was expected to quick flip and finish FS. Again, nice lady however I never did get back with her. That was pre-covid though. YMMV. Sandy.
Haven't been to Grand Rapids since before covid. Is Aliese still at Panacea? Any feedback on who is there now would be appreciated. Also, is Di still around in GR?
I don't want to just repeat the chorus that is being sung by the choir, but since I have received such good information from this board via posts and PM's I feel I owe the board a brief report.
I visited "Hunter's Den" on three occasions over the past three weeks and enjoyed the company of Lauren, Cassidy and Phoenix (sorry, I have not yet had time to meet Hunter). Physically, they are all top notch, but each has her own unique characteristics that make her special. The posts on the board are accurate, and newbies can have confidence that a visit to this location will be exceptional, regardless of the therapist.
As always. Thanks GR!
Gern.
Thanks for pointing that out. It would appear my dogmatic response to a dogmatic statement of dissension allowed me to make the same errant statement, albeit from a different vantage point. I do see that both Luxe and Serenity have merit and fill certain niches. I should not have resorted to sweeping statements that disregard what these two fine establishments bring to us, the end user. While we each may have certain favorites, we shouldn't ignore the other solid performers. And I should recognize that we are best served to find the benefits in several places, so that if we have a falling out at one, we have viable options going forward. In all fairness I have not seen some of the girls at Luxe and it's been some time since I've darkened the door at Serenity. It was likely one or two Ashley Winter seasons since I've been there.
So. Point well taken.
G2.You're missing two more reasons for choosing a salon.
Some salons are more convenient because they have walk-ins and they're on your way to work.
If a monger walks into a salon with no appointment, his identity is safer than making appointments with screening.
I have a friend that visits Wonder and drops 250 for the girl to prioritize for him. Hidden Parking and anonymity is why he started going there. Found a girl that works great for him and he's very happy. I showed him usasexguide to help find the right place. He doesn't read it because he's happy at wonder.
It is some people's opinion that there is a fist second and third place or line up. Those opinions are not everyone's opinion.
Different strokes.
Which providers are best suited for allowing multiple pops? I'm attracted to sexy girls that smoke? Who are the better options in that category?
Which providers are best suited for allowing multiple pops? I'm attracted to sexy girls that smoke? Who are the better options in that category?I think advance notice will get you multiple pops with just about every provider or parlor we've discussed here. The key is saying so at time of appointment set. That way she knows when you come first time, she's only half done. And I would assume you're young enough to pop twice (or more) within the time frame scheduled. I would also think a small tip over the agreed upon price helps convey thanks for the extra effort expended. As far as finding Nicotina or Emmy Phezema, or Auntie Phlegm, that is beyond my area of expertise. I'd guess more than half of the girls smoke, but most try to disguise the odor. So you might ask if they wouldn't mind smoking with you before session begins. Hope that helps.
G2.
Which providers are best suited for allowing multiple pops? I'm attracted to sexy girls that smoke? Who are the better options in that category?If I walked into a parlor that smells like smoke, I would walk right back out.
I don't need to explain the smell of smoke on me. I'll find a different place to play.
ZzTopSterZz
07-16-22, 15:47
Thanks to the good men of GR who have shared their views for the benefit of this Chicago guy who was looking for info. On a visit to GR a couple years back I had a nice session at Serenity with a lead from Benz. This week I took Gene2's reco to try BBU and it was great. I'm not a full service monger and found just what I wanted. Nice massage, good conversation and some fun. Was able to meet both Raven and Brit while in town. I will be back.
Zz.
AustinRamos1
07-16-22, 21:31
I think advance notice will get you multiple pops with just about every provider or parlor we've discussed here. The key is saying so at time of appointment set. That way she knows when you come first time, she's only half done. And I would assume you're young enough to pop twice (or more) within the time frame scheduled. I would also think a small tip over the agreed upon price helps convey thanks for the extra effort expended. As far as finding Nicotina or Emmy Phezema, or Auntie Phlegm, that is beyond my area of expertise. I'd guess more than half of the girls smoke, but most try to disguise the odor. So you might ask if they wouldn't mind smoking with you before session begins. Hope that helps.
G2.Gene, I had to log in after reading this just to tell you that I appreciate your terminology here. "Nicotina, Emmy Phezema, or Auntie Phlegm", can't make this stuff up. I appreciate you brother. True classics haha.
There is a TLC Spa on Forest Hill Ave. Anyone been there? I am guessing totally legit since it has no mentions that I can find here. And if so, do they give good massages even if no extras?
ClassyGentGr
07-17-22, 07:09
This spring I reconnected with Chrissy (long-haired caucasion beauty, formerly at BBU when it was downtown), who has her own place on near NW side now. Good neighborhood, discreet (I parked on the street), nice clean set up. Very private. Price is higher $$ for an hour but Chrissy is a peach of a gal and her skills are good. Very sensuous from the start (allowed mutual touching). She has wonderful assets and is a good conversationalist (no extras were offered or partaken). I will repeat as needed. She has been posting on STG but I looked through 15 pages of ads just now and didn't find it.
P.S. I found the ad in a private message! https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/jessi/913821750752
Gene, I had to log in after reading this just to tell you that I appreciate your terminology here. "Nicotina, Emmy Phezema, or Auntie Phlegm", can't make this stuff up. I appreciate you brother. True classics haha.I'm glad some of you dudes appreciate the effort placed into posts and reviews. It's an enjoyable aspect of a post if I can entertain from time to time, as well as inform, or perhaps even irritate. Who knows, maybe DJBiker and I could even start a podcast on the merits of Costco wine and liquor.
G2.
This spring I reconnected with Chrissy (long-haired caucasion beauty, formerly at BBU when it was downtown), who has her own place on near NW side now. Good neighborhood, discreet (I parked on the street), nice clean set up. Very private. Price is higher $$ for an hour but Chrissy is a peach of a gal and her skills are good. Very sensuous from the start (allowed mutual touching). She has wonderful assets and is a good conversationalist (no extras were offered or partaken). I will repeat as needed. She has been posting on STG but I looked through 15 pages of ads just now and didn't find it.
P.S. I found the ad in a private message! https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/jessi/913821750752For those who are curious, the classy gent is talking about Jessi. And since his link failed to work as a hot link, I will retry:
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/jessi/913821750752
Thanks to the good men of GR who have shared their views for the benefit of this Chicago guy who was looking for info. On a visit to GR a couple years back I had a nice session at Serenity with a lead from Benz. This week I took Gene2's reco to try BBU and it was great. I'm not a full service monger and found just what I wanted. Nice massage, good conversation and some fun. Was able to meet both Raven and Brit while in town. I will be back.Glad it worked for you. Good convenient location. While you didn't need walk in, that could have been available had you needed it. And you got in with a simple referral, no worries about any alleged database. And. Up front pricing. That's a game changer. And such a benefit to us as clients. I'm sure we've all been places where the price is discussed when you're naked and aroused and you agree to a series of escalating fees for levels of nudity and pleasure. You agree to pay because your negotiating position is compromised. But then when you drive away, you're telling yourself "I paid too much. I'm not going to repeat that experience. " I think Benz was the first to point that out to me. But I've still made the mistake more often than not. And that's why the upfront pricing is such a very important aspect to the overall fun.
Just my opinion. Well, mine and ZZtop.
G2.
So. I was feeling the need for some time and company with a beautiful young woman. Couldn't connect with my usual delight. So I decided to try a weekend visit to BodyworkByUs. Hadn't seen Saje there yet, but had read a few sparsely worded reviews about her on this board. All of the minimalist reviews had been positive with no negative comments or reviews. I then reached out to a few of you men of legend here. Once again, all of you brilliant minded partakers urged me to schedule a visit with the fair maiden, Saje. 45 minute appointment scheduled, quick response via text. I asked if she would like me to bring anything. She responded positively so I picked up a 750 bottle of top shelf along with some mix and ice.
Ventured on over and parked securely. Texted I was there and headed for the door. Was greeted by a vision of youthful beauty and grace. She stands almost 5'8" and looked a vision in her cute black uniform. Introductions were made and I used the rest room to wash my hands. I had just showered before heading to Bbu. She stayed in the room while I undressed and made us some great mixed drinks. Then she got completely comfortable right away and began a very nice back massage allowing respectful mutual touch. The flip was great and quite arousing. Typically a younger provider isn't as skilled in the art of edging. Well, Saje have the youth, but she knows what she's doing. And that body is fantastic. Perfect spinner type, both slender and tall. The skin is supple and the curves sublime, with an incredible feminine physique. I tried nor to stare. And her conversation skills are very comfortable and engaging.
All In all, I'm surprised it's taken me so long to discover this gem. Part of the reason she's been so "under the radar" is she hasn't been featured on a STG ad. All of the other ladies at Bbu have a feature ad. But now I see that has been rectified. So I anticipate that her schedule will soon be filling. Currently she shows available Tuesday to Friday stating at 2:00 pm until early evening. Perfect timing for just about everyone. Unfortunately I will be out of state for work.
Enjoy. I'm.
ZzTopSterZz
07-17-22, 22:30
Glad it worked for you. Good convenient location. While you didn't need walk in, that could have been available had you needed it. And you got in with a simple referral, no worries about any alleged database. And. Up front pricing. That's a game changer. And such a benefit to us as clients. I'm sure we've all been places where the price is discussed when you're naked and aroused and you agree to a series of escalating fees for levels of nudity and pleasure. You agree to pay because your negotiating position is compromised. But then when you drive away, you're telling yourself "I paid too much. I'm not going to repeat that experience. " I think Benz was the first to point that out to me. But I've still made the mistake more often than not. And that's why the upfront pricing is such a very important aspect to the overall fun.
Just my opinion. Well, mine and ZZtop.
G2.Agree 100%. I'm a big fan of flat rate because it's a natural quality screener on both sides. If a shop like BBU can charge 180/ hr and stay in business with satisfied customers then that says a lot about the shop. And if guys walk in knowing that's the rate then the ladies don't have to worry about getting shorted on tips by some slob who wants to grope and run. It just takes a mutual understanding of what that rate covers, which is easily established in one meeting and / or communication among mongers. If two people then choose to work out any additional arrangements that's up to them without affecting everyone else. It can be a bit like dating. One side offers a little extra money or service with no questions asked, and if the other side reciprocates then that becomes mutually beneficial. If the offer is not balanced then things simply go back to the base rate and expectations and everyone's happy. I know some guys enjoy haggling and working with a more flexible (if unpredictable) menu. Nothing against that. It's just not for me.
Bacardi1314
07-18-22, 01:01
It's Panacea dude. No FS / No Oral is the rule there.Nope, it's definitely money driven. I used to frequently do BBFS at Panacea. Just no one knew about it except myself and my provider (no I won't tell you) who I paid very well.
So. I was feeling the need for some time and company with a beautiful young woman. Couldn't connect with my usual delight. So I decided to try a weekend visit to BodyworkByUs. Hadn't seen Saje there yet, but had read a few sparsely worded reviews about her on this board. All of the minimalist reviews had been positive with no negative comments or reviews. I then reached out to a few of you men of legend here. Once again, all of you brilliant minded partakers urged me to schedule a visit with the fair maiden, Saje. 45 minute appointment scheduled, quick response via text. I asked if she would like me to bring anything. She responded positively so I picked up a 750 bottle of top shelf along with some mix and ice.
Ventured on over and parked securely. Texted I was there and headed for the door. Was greeted by a vision of youthful beauty and grace. She stands almost 5'8" and looked a vision in her cute black uniform. Introductions were made and I used the rest room to wash my hands. I had just showered before heading to Bbu. She stayed in the room while I undressed and made us some great mixed drinks. Then she got completely comfortable right away and began a very nice back massage allowing respectful mutual touch. The flip was great and quite arousing. Typically a younger provider isn't as skilled in the art of edging. Well, Saje does have youth, but she knows what she's doing. And that body is fantastic. Perfect spinner type, both slender and tall. The skin is supple and the curves sublime, with an incredible feminine physique. I tried nor to stare. And her conversation skills are very comfortable and engaging.
All In all, I'm surprised it's taken me so long to discover this gem. Part of the reason she's been so "under the radar" is she hasn't been featured on a STG ad. All of the other ladies at Bbu have a feature ad. But now I see that has been rectified. So I anticipate that her schedule will soon be filling. Currently she shows available Tuesday to Friday stating at 2:00 pm until early evening. Perfect timing for just about everyone. Unfortunately I will be out of state for work.I forgot to include the link to her STG featured post. Once again, accurate photos, but the fail to capture the striking beauty of this all star.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/saje-at-bbu/532112769365
The online scheduler for Bbu shows she's available Tuesday 2-6, Wednesday Noon-4:00, Thursday 2-6, Friday Noon-3:30, and Sunday 2-8. So plenty of options at this point. She's a breath of fresh youthful air in this hobby with a great personality to enjoy while you gaze upon the impeccable body and soul searching eyes. You will be smitten. And you will want to return.
The look reminds me of a young Nicole Kidman.
Enjoy.
G2.
Sparty On 1234
07-18-22, 08:56
Long time BBU fan. Have seen many of the beautiful women at BBU. All are great, sexy and provide a consistent result. New place in Wyoming is safe, clean and parking is easy. Saw Reyna last week. Amazing visit. She is very friendly and easy to talk too. Got comfortable immediately. Good massage with just the right amount of pressure. Nice teasing. On the flip she got me to the edge several times, which I loved and then a great finish. Fantastic natural rack and allows much roaming. Most sexy and sensual provider I have seen at BBU to date. I would check her out if you like a nice slender, curvy, sensual woman. I will repeat. $$ + I gave her a tip for such a great job!
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/616-404-7851/165819126802
Have seen Hunter twice since her migration to the domesticated realm of Brits place. I never saw her when she roamed the wilds of the rural locales. Probably better I didn't, as I can only imagine the sweet flavors of the entire palate that exists now in the rear view mirror for some of you lucky dogs.
But enough of my erstwhile wonderings of what might have been.
I arrived for the first visit with Hunter and was introduced to a mild mannered shapely woman in a clinical uniform, looking like a professional hair stylist or the like. Once she started with the massage, it was clear this was a woman with a purpose. And her purpose was to tease and build anticipation. Once the flip occurred and she joined me on the table, I was regretting my earlier decision to book a 45 minute stay. I should have done the 60! Oh well, live and learn!
One of the few advantages of being well beyond my youthful prime, is that my time in a state of arousal can exceed what it used to. Without climax coming quickly. While this can have a down side when being attended by a fully clothed AMP matron, this possible dilemma is non existent with Hunter. I was glad I was older, the continued focus on pleasure kept going and going. When my time came, it was symphonic!
What a tigress she is. Definitely will repeat and I promise to not allow myself to contemplate what might have been had I visited her before she was domesticated.
Enjoy.So. Wonder no more. Experience for yourself. Starting Thursday.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/thirsty-thursday-with-hunter/825647795429
Once again. My timing stinks. I'll be out of state for work. Pity me.
G2.
Glad it worked for you. Good convenient location. While you didn't need walk in, that could have been available had you needed it. And you got in with a simple referral, no worries about any alleged database. And. Up front pricing. That's a game changer. And such a benefit to us as clients. I'm sure we've all been places where the price is discussed when you're naked and aroused and you agree to a series of escalating fees for levels of nudity and pleasure. You agree to pay because your negotiating position is compromised. But then when you drive away, you're telling yourself "I paid too much. I'm not going to repeat that experience. " I think Benz was the first to point that out to me. But I've still made the mistake more often than not. And that's why the upfront pricing is such a very important aspect to the overall fun.
Just my opinion. Well, mine and ZZtop.
G2.What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.
Not worth the time to set it up. Tried for a last minute appointment after work one night, a quick bums rush with no satisfaction. She was more interested in paying her pimp or pusher who you had to walk past.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/i-promise-your-massage-with-me/974039053790
Any info on this one.
What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.Hey JD.
You've asked the question that's led me to my conclusions about the superiority of up front cost places like BodyworkByUs and Hunters Den. While my opinions aren't universally shared here, I do believe the majority are in agreement. I respect the viewpoint of opposing thoughts and a give a hat tip to their superior negotiating skills. My guess is that ones who promote the open ended price shops have their negotiated prices and product nailed down before they ever text or walk in. However, that's not the approach less savvy clients possess, which is at least 90% of mongers. Years worth of careful negotiating and artful deal making has led these men to get "deals" you and I could never achieve.
There also is an unspoken allegation that those of us who promote a parlor or provider get discounted services or freebies. While I do suppose that may exist, it doesn't for me. For one, I've never wanted to become a paid endorser. Second, I hold the women who provide these services in high regard (perhaps higher than I should). I mean what they do for us, what sights they behold (a man's hairy ass, etc), the smells, the sounds, the cheap cologne, the sweat, the stale cigarettes odor, bad breath, the secretions. It's all too graphic. How could I ask them to forgo even a portion of their fee because I wrote a few words on their behalf? If some men here do that, more power to them. I just can't justify doing that.
So, many here have an AMP approach to cost, tips, and services. Most AMPs operate with middle aged matrons who speak very little English, provide a generally good massage with a happy ending. This baseline service has a typical tip that is slightly lower than the door fee for the half hour or hour. So a $50 half hour may include a $40 tip for a happy ending. Such things as under the clothing roaming, prostate massage, topless roaming, BJs, etc will move the tip to $50-$100. Full service is more rare at AMPs here, but might move the tip to $100-$200 depending on age, attractiveness, and even English comprehension of the provider. Places in Orlando FL routinely provide 20 and 30 year old cute Asian girls who provide phenomenal FS with extras we never see here all for $200 total cost for a 45 minute adventure. But I digress.
Here we tend to appreciate the massage girls that get naked, allow roaming, and provide a HJ or Russian finish. We also appreciate it when they don't negotiate but let us tip what we want. And most of us tip any where from matching the door fee to 150% of the door fee. So a $50 half hour massage has a $50 to $75 upcharge. A $80 hour massage has a $80 to $120 upcharge. And if the place allows DATY or BJs or FS the cost incrementally rises.
The problem is that so many of the parlors employee providers who know that if they tease sufficiently, and get the guy worked up they can tell him what the tip will be. And they will ask a lot based upon their cuteness, and your hardness. Recent reports showed one mildly attractive provider wanted $50 for a hand job, an additional $50 if she got topless, an additional $50 if she got nude, and an additional $50 if she gave a body slide. So the dudes hour massage ended up costing $280 for what BodyworkByUs does for $180. And dude had to get off the table and get the cash.
So now you see the draw for the up front pricing. Artful negotiators here are willing to leave without an orgasm or do it themselves to get the provider to accept what they offer. Of course, the obvious flaw here is that an annoyed provider lessens the experience quality for the paying customer. So if you're looking for cost containment, up front pricing gives that to you. If you want the slightly expanded menu you MIGHT find at open end price places, using Bbu prices as a model might help you to negotiate a better price. And in the interest of full disclosure, many BodyworkByUs clients leave a small tip ($20 to $30) in addition to the $120 for half hour, $150 for 45 minutes, $180 for hour (but many clients leave $0 tip). So that can help you to compare apples with apples.
I hope this discussion of consumer economics didn't bore you to sleep. Oh well, not all my posts can be about the divinity of the touch of Lauren's bare breasts on my body!
Enjoy.
G2.
What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.If you don't like to discuss price openly, then you will not like Serenity and Royal, IMHO. That is required there.
Suggested tip amounts depend on what kind of play you want. At either place, if you want a fun massage with some nudity, teasing and HE, you better be prepared to tip equal to the time fee plus another $40. If you are just looking for a HE with light over the clothes roaming, tip the time fee. If you want more, then it will be the time fee plus $100 to start, and probably quite a bit more. Even if you bring chocolates. Expensive, right?
And never worry about underpaying at those places. It isn't possible. They will discuss the required price openly, so you will know exactly what minimum you must pay.
Hope that helps.
Well the fair maiden finally has a featured post with accurate photos. Her availability is typically limited but the online scheduler shows she has openings this afternoon! And her phone number is on the STG link below, so you can text her directly! And maybe she will want some mixed drinks to enjoy together. Jameson and ginger ale.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/saje-at-bbu/863994307438
She's even hotter in real life.
Enjoy.
G2.
Had a visit with Phoenix at Hunters den and all I can say is wow. When I showed up she was wearing a t-shirt and some shorts with her ass hanging out. She is fantastic provided a good massage with roaming. On the flip some more teasing and then on to the main event. I left satisfied and can't wait to go back.
Had some spare time today so I went ahead and scheduled with Phoenix. I showed up at her incall to find her wearing an MSU t-shirt and some shorts with her ass peaking out. Massage was good some roaming. Flip has some more teasing then she moved on to the main event. Very s skilled with her mouth kept me on edge and had me begging for the finish. Cleaned up and donated before going on my way. Cannot wait to see her again.
Had a visit with Phoenix at Hunters den and all I can say is wow. When I showed up she was wearing a t-shirt and some shorts with her ass hanging out. She is fantastic provided a good massage with roaming. On the flip some more teasing and then on to the main event. I left satisfied and can't wait to go back.Ok. So an FYI for all here. Shortly after I first reviewed Phoenix, the newest addition to Hunter's Den, another girl started using the same name, posting under Escorts on STG. The real Phoenix posts under Massage on STG. And she is phenomenal. The imposter is reported to have all the bad habits we hate here (old photos, upcharge fees, etc.). To make things worse the imposter has a photo with a pink teddy similar to one worn by the Real Phoenix. Don't be fooled!!
Here's the link for the Real Phoenix. Ignore the imposter one.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/phoenix/808443790283
Hope that helps all avoid a disappointment!!
G2.
Broadway Jay
07-19-22, 21:33
I decided to try someone new. Jesse at Pacific on 44th. I searched the forum but couldn't find any posts on her. Decided to TOFTT.
Experience was mediocre. I hadn't been to Pacific in quite some time and now I remember why. Place is kind of a dump. Has a musty smell to it. The rooms aren't exactly clean. Jesse is friendly. Not the girl in the pics, obviously, but looks somewhat similar. I got my full hour, limited menu. Technique on the HE was poor.
Even though the experience wasn't horrible, I won't repeat. There are so many better options.
Stay safe out there.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/jesse-love/025228328093
ZzTopSterZz
07-20-22, 08:22
Well the fair maiden finally has a featured post with accurate photos. Her availability is typically limited but the online scheduler shows she has openings this afternoon! And her phone number is on the STG link below, so you can text her directly! And maybe she will want some mixed drinks to enjoy together. Jameson and ginger ale.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/saje-at-bbu/863994307438
She's even hotter in real life.
Enjoy.
G2.A lady who coordinates her nails and her rings with her underwear is paying attention to details. Just sayin'.
Ok. So try as in may, I just can't seem to get a better high, than time spent with Lauren.
If you read this Lauren, don't take it the wrong way, but I can't figure out what makes you so awesome.
There are providers younger. Or ones more energetic. Or ones with more flexible hours. Or ones more ready to fulfill a fantasy. Or ones who charge less (don't lower your fees, Lauren). Or ones who have better communications. Or ones who don't have as many commitments that lessen their times available.
But no one checks all of the boxes like Lauren. And here is my dilemma. I don't want to review and recommend her because then you bastards here book all of her available appointments and I'm left out. She hardly even posts anymore because so many of you dingleberries contact her directly and make appointments before she even knows her full schedule. But, I still do leave reviews and recommendations. Why? I don't know. I guess I want her to be busy so she is profitable in her pursuit of the hobby. But, I'm torn as I'm actually hurting my satisfaction of my own selfish carnal needs. Dammit. I've become altruistic.
I read posts where dudes ask "who's the best Overall experience"? Or who gives the best blow job? Or who gives the best Russian ending? Or who has the best feeling breasts? And my answer is. Lauren. To all of the above. But why do I post that? So you crapbirds can get a high quality experience for a bargain price? I guess so.
So that's my dilemma. It's lessened a bit because I'm out of state for work right now so I'm not fighting you hasbeens for her time. But still, I need to report, review, and recommend. Before I left out of state, I saw Lauren yesterday. I brought her fresh fruit and smoked turkey with crackers. Her favorite snack. I also brought her a bottle of VSOP cognac. Once again her favorite along with XO cognac. Kind of funny because most young women prefer a sweet wine like a moscato. So dudes don't mind bringing a $8 bottle of wine on my recommendation but probably won't bring a $80 bottle of cognac. But they should for Lauren. She should have cases of the stuff from you cheapskates. But I digress.
The time with Lauren was divine. Her focus on me and my needs is legendary. And she compliments my technique and my self-deprecating humor. She laughs almost embarrassed when I recount stories about my nerdy high school days. She will say things like "no way. You couldn't have been that awkward as a teen!" But then she rewards me in a way that makes me glad I never scored with the popular girl in school, because it drove me to become self made. And even though confidence is still elusive, I'm confident enough to have a spectacular hour or 90 minutes with the most popular girl. Lauren. And she knows my desires and my insecurities. She fulfills one and soothes the other. And that, my friends, is why I share my thoughts with you undeserving piles of human waste. Of course, my contemptible speech is all tongue in cheek. Enjoy my friends.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/305103745334
G2.
A lady who coordinates her nails and her rings with her underwear is paying attention to details. Just sayin'.And I'm telling you, she looks better in person! Word is getting out so her appointments are now limited. Two left today. Zero tomorrow. Zero Saturday. A couple on Sunday. Zero on Monday.
You will be astounded at the youthful beauty.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/saje-at-bbu/863994307438
G2.
Where did HangLow go?
That was entertainment worth reading.
Go HangLow!
TinFling0429
07-21-22, 10:27
Dude, you need to get some friends or find ways to meet girls that are not paid for to schedule. A lot of your stuff is cringey, but this borders on I am in love with this girl stuff.
Companies don't want a 3-page job resume. They want something clear, quick and concise. You are the guy who hands in a 3-page life story job resume.
Ok. So try as in may, I just can't seem to get a better high, than time spent with Lauren.
If you read this Lauren, don't take it the wrong way, but I can't figure out what makes you so awesome.
There are providers younger. Or ones more energetic. Or ones with more flexible hours. Or ones more ready to fulfill a fantasy. Or ones who charge less (don't lower your fees, Lauren). Or ones who have better communications. Or ones who don't have as many commitments that lessen their times available.
But no one checks all of the boxes like Lauren. And here is my dilemma. I don't want to review and recommend her because then you bastards here book all of her available appointments and I'm left out. She hardly even posts anymore because so many of you dingleberries contact her directly and make appointments before she even knows her full schedule. But, I still do leave reviews and recommendations. Why? I don't know. I guess I want her to be busy so she is profitable in her pursuit of the hobby. But, I'm torn as I'm actually hurting my satisfaction of my own selfish carnal needs. Dammit. I've become altruistic.
I read posts where dudes ask "who's the best Overall experience"? Or who gives the best blow job? Or who gives the best Russian ending? Or who has the best feeling breasts? And my answer is. Lauren. To all of the above. But why do I post that? So you crapbirds can get a high quality experience for a bargain price? I guess so...
DavidWebb2010
07-21-22, 10:43
Hello. I am planning on seeing Delilah or the ebony massause and wonder what I can expect her donation and tip to be. Also wonder if anyone has any more intel on her you can message me.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/i-promise-your-massage-with-me/974039053790
Any info on this one.She was on my FB Todo list. WAS!
She'll blow your phone up asking for money. I suggested trade, she agreed.
Met for a few minutes in person and I politely declined.
If I met her at a hotel, It would have been a door slam.
Pics resemble her from years ago, before the candy took over.
Avoid.
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