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BigGuy357
07-14-21, 08:26
Some women will fuck you for free and some women will fuck you for a house, 2.3 kids, and a wedding ring. Any where in between is negotiable.You got that right!

BigGuy357
07-14-21, 08:37
I know she has been reviewed many times here, but I would like to contribute. I agree she is a wonderful lady. Pleasant and easy to converse with, and most important, does a hell of a good massage. A couple of quick points I have never seen addressed though. For those of you who have any concern about allergens she is a smoker and you can smell it as soon as you walk into the house. It is not noticeable in the massage room. She also has a cat. Neither is a problem for me so I will definitely return. I hardly ever see this type of info shared and I know it would be helpful to some. Thanks and have a great day!


https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/simply-sweet-massage/663811017154

BigGuy357
07-14-21, 09:14
Recently stopped by the new Asian Spa next to Marge's Donut Den on 28th street. 40 hhr 60 hr 90 for 90 min. I can not spell or accurately pronounce the ladys name. Something like "Hannah" only said like a Korean name would be spoken.

Fairly decent massage with no HE. Way too much teasing for the lack of completion. Even asked and told no. It reminded me of the reports about the Asian massage place on 44th (near Pacific) that did something like this and then complained about the tip. Anyway, I also think they are owned / run by the same people that opened Asian Massage behind Westgate Bowling I reviewed about a month ago. (A couple of things I noticed makes me believe this.) I don't know what happened, but it used to be if they were an Asian parlor they had to offer extras to stay in business. I know of many that have closed over the years because of this. Oh well. I'll will still keep trying new places as I can in the never ending search for the "perfect" parlor. Stay safe!

Member #6060
07-14-21, 13:20
Hi,

Heading into town Friday. Looking for a massage girl with either big areola. Long nipples. Or both. I prefer non-Asian but would consider. I will be in Walker and was looking at Serenity massage but I don't know any of the girls. Willing to travel around the area. Off chance, anyone know any lactating women in the area?

Benz1
07-14-21, 14:03
I know she has been reviewed many times here, but I would like to contribute. I agree she is a wonderful lady. Pleasant and easy to converse with, and most important, does a hell of a good massage. A couple of quick points I have never seen addressed though. For those of you who have any concern about allergens she is a smoker and you can smell it as soon as you walk into the house. It is not noticeable in the massage room. She also has a cat. Neither is a problem for me so I will definitely return. I hardly ever see this type of info shared and I know it would be helpful to some. Thanks and have a great day!


https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/simply-sweet-massage/663811017154I've known Sweety for 10 years and have never known her to smoke anything.

You might be referring to reviews of Sweet Megan.

Simply Sweet is the best bang for your buck and a great masseuse.

No roaming or clothes come off but the conversation is as great as the massage.

He tickle the Pickle can actually last the whole session, if that's what you want.

Sweety is awesome and a nonsmoker.

I will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/simply-sweet-massage/412409890330

Benz1
07-14-21, 14:06
For the mongers looking for or Lurking for Marie.

Marie is back at Serenity.

AverageJoe87
07-14-21, 18:36
I've been a long-time frequenter of Panacea (six+ years) and I feel somewhat bad that I haven't made reports on my dozens of good experiences- I'll be sure to do so in the future. But today, for the first time ever, I had an AWFUL time. Gorgeous darker skinned girl, maybe Latina or mixed, didn't catch her name, checked me in for half hour. In the room I placed $40 on the counter- always at least the starting point. Well same girl comes in and asks what the $40 is for. I told her "your tip" and she said that all the girls there "work different" and she won't do HJ for $40. Wants $80. I never had this here before. Caught off guard I offered sixty and she reluctantly agreed. After 30 seconds of rubbing my back and arms she asks if I want to turn over. Really? So I did- total limp noodle (that $ discussion really sapped all the sexy out of it) but I tried to make the best of it. Jackhammered my buddy, and swatted away my hand when I reached for her leg with "No touching, kay?" I asked her to get the towels and clean me up. Absolute waste. I've spent a lot of time getting to know some of the girls here, still miss some of the old ones who aren't there anymore, and I've always been treated well and treated them well. I gave this chick the extra $20 we agreed because I'm not a prick, but if this is an indication of the future of the joint it's heartbreaking. At the very least I'll have to call ahead from now on and only schedule with the girls I know.

Pete3854
07-14-21, 19:38
I've been a long-time frequenter of Panacea (six+ years) and I feel somewhat bad that I haven't made reports on my dozens of good experiences- I'll be sure to do so in the future. But today, for the first time ever, I had an AWFUL time. Gorgeous darker skinned girl, maybe Latina or mixed, didn't catch her name, checked me in for half hour. In the room I placed $40 on the counter- always at least the starting point. Well same girl comes in and asks what the $40 is for. I told her "your tip" and she said that all the girls there "work different" and she won't do HJ for $40. Wants $80. I never had this here before. Caught off guard I offered sixty and she reluctantly agreed. After 30 seconds of rubbing my back and arms she asks if I want to turn over. Really? So I did- total limp noodle (that $ discussion really sapped all the sexy out of it) but I tried to make the best of it. Jackhammered my buddy, and swatted away my hand when I reached for her leg with "No touching, kay?" I asked her to get the towels and clean me up. Absolute waste. I've spent a lot of time getting to know some of the girls here, still miss some of the old ones who aren't there anymore, and I've always been treated well and treated them well. I gave this chick the extra $20 we agreed because I'm not a prick, but if this is an indication of the future of the joint it's heartbreaking. At the very least I'll have to call ahead from now on and only schedule with the girls I know.Yes the place has turned for the worse in the last several months. Covid and lack of customers last year maybe changed them. I stopped going awhile back.

AverageJoe87
07-14-21, 21:56
I've been a long-time frequenter of Panacea (six+ years) and I feel somewhat bad that I haven't made reports on my dozens of good experiences- I'll be sure to do so in the future. But today, for the first time ever, I had an AWFUL time. Gorgeous darker skinned girl, maybe Latina or mixed, didn't catch her name, checked me in for half hour. In the room I placed $40 on the counter- always at least the starting point. Well same girl comes in and asks what the $40 is for. I told her "your tip" and she said that all the girls there "work different" and she won't do HJ for $40. Wants $80. I never had this here before. Caught off guard I offered sixty and she reluctantly agreed. After 30 seconds of rubbing my back and arms she asks if I want to turn over. Really? So I did- total limp noodle (that $ discussion really sapped all the sexy out of it) but I tried to make the best of it. Jackhammered my buddy, and swatted away my hand when I reached for her leg with "No touching, kay?" I asked her to get the towels and clean me up. Absolute waste. I've spent a lot of time getting to know some of the girls here, still miss some of the old ones who aren't there anymore, and I've always been treated well and treated them well. I gave this chick the extra $20 we agreed because I'm not a prick, but if this is an indication of the future of the joint it's heartbreaking. At the very least I'll have to call ahead from now on and only schedule with the girls I know.Better than okay. Excellent.

I went back about an hour later and spoke with Annie. I asked what girls were in and she said it would probably be Hailey (that was the girl in the disaster I posted earlier) and I told Annie I was just there and saw her and was thoroughly unimpressed. She said "I'll take care of you, just give me 20 minutes. Glad I went back. She's one of the good ones. Very sensual and sweet— listened to me whine about the other girl and it seems she really went all out to make it up to me, so to speak. Absolutely would recommend.

RobovDaslav
07-14-21, 22:26
Could any one please let me know is it worth visiting her?

Thank you.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/if-you-will-in-enjoy-a-bbw-giv/983342700774She's been on my To Do list for a while, but after a good experience with Tori (https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/dont-just-look-at-my-tits-come/586703403377) and on her recommendation, I'll probably go on and test those waters the next chance I get. Unfortunately, the only day that I can even get a remote chance of seeing her is next week Friday and there's a number of reasons why that complicates things for me schedule wise.

But I'll do what I can, so be on the look out for that in the coming weeks.

ClarkEtt
07-15-21, 00:16
Finally got a chance to see Ari again a couple of weeks ago. Still working out of her downtown residence. Booked an hr appt. At 70 hr. Great massage, she really can work out all your kinks. Good amount of teasing and conversation. Ended up finishing Russian. Tip was hr rate for a total of $40. YMMV but more is on the table. Would repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/private-location-book-appointm/066173145463

ClarkEtt
07-15-21, 00:46
Went and saw summer at TOP for the first time. Booked an hr massage at 60 hr. I would guess that's her in the pictures, defiantly a beautiful girl. Massage was good, nice and firm and no complaints. Lots of teasing pre-flip and had me ready. Opted for fully nude HJ ending at $. I know other reviews mentioned that she wouldn't take her bottoms off but no problem there. She also has her nipples pierced if your into that. Session ended a few minutes early but in fairness she told me to flip when I was ready, needless to say I didn't want to wait so some of that is on me. Great overall, would repeat. Only thing I didn't like was she had me get up and show her the tip before she would start. Maybe a first time thing? Total damage $60, a little high but in line with other parlors in town.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/cum-relax-with-me/307834824551

ClarkEtt
07-15-21, 00:53
Set up an appt with blue the other day. Great communication and easy set up. Got held up in traffic and let her know I was running just a few minutes late. She said ok no problem. I get there and she comes out and I guess took a walk in before I got there. Maybe she thought I wouldn't show? Her next available time was a few hours later which wouldn't work. Didn't get to have a session with her. Pros it was definitely her in the pics. May try again when I have some free time.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/red-white-blue-is-the-one-fo/060700824713

Swcdt
07-15-21, 07:14
I've been a long-time frequenter of Panacea (six+ years) and I feel somewhat bad that I haven't made reports on my dozens of good experiences- I'll be sure to do so in the future. But today, for the first time ever, I had an AWFUL time. Gorgeous darker skinned girl, maybe Latina or mixed, didn't catch her name, checked me in for half hour. In the room I placed $40 on the counter- always at least the starting point. Well same girl comes in and asks what the $40 is for. I told her "your tip" and she said that all the girls there "work different" and she won't do HJ for $40. Wants $80. I never had this here before. Caught off guard I offered sixty and she reluctantly agreed. After 30 seconds of rubbing my back and arms she asks if I want to turn over. Really? So I did- total limp noodle (that $ discussion really sapped all the sexy out of it) but I tried to make the best of it. Jackhammered my buddy, and swatted away my hand when I reached for her leg with "No touching, kay?" I asked her to get the towels and clean me up. Absolute waste. I've spent a lot of time getting to know some of the girls here, still miss some of the old ones who aren't there anymore, and I've always been treated well and treated them well. I gave this chick the extra $20 we agreed because I'm not a prick, but if this is an indication of the future of the joint it's heartbreaking. At the very least I'll have to call ahead from now on and only schedule with the girls I know.Last time I was considering going there I called ahead to see who was working and the girl got pretty bitchy like it was a huge inconvenience for her to answer that simple question. Needless to say, I did not go there that evening. Maybe next time I will call and ask if the ones I'm interested in are working. Theres alot of good talent there but a couple of them can really wreck a good time.

BigGuy357
07-15-21, 07:40
I've known Sweety for 10 years and have never known her to smoke anything.

You might be referring to reviews of Sweet Megan.

Simply Sweet is the best bang for your buck and a great masseuse.

No roaming or clothes come off but the conversation is as great as the massage.

He tickle the Pickle can actually last the whole session, if that's what you want.

Sweety is awesome and a nonsmoker.

I will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/simply-sweet-massage/412409890330I can't disagree as I did not witness any smoking. I should have more accurately reported the scent of smoke was in the air as I entered. And, as I said, it was not in the massage room. I do not know what the cause was. I will definitely be back.

Tommey
07-15-21, 09:10
I've been a long-time frequenter of Panacea (six+ years) and I feel somewhat bad that I haven't made reports on my dozens of good experiences- I'll be sure to do so in the future. But today, for the first time ever, I had an AWFUL time. Gorgeous darker skinned girl, maybe Latina or mixed, didn't catch her name, checked me in for half hour. In the room I placed $40 on the counter- always at least the starting point. Well same girl comes in and asks what the $40 is for. I told her "your tip" and she said that all the girls there "work different" and she won't do HJ for $40. Wants $80. I never had this here before. Caught off guard I offered sixty and she reluctantly agreed. After 30 seconds of rubbing my back and arms she asks if I want to turn over. Really? So I did- total limp noodle (that $ discussion really sapped all the sexy out of it) but I tried to make the best of it. Jackhammered my buddy, and swatted away my hand when I reached for her leg with "No touching, kay?" I asked her to get the towels and clean me up. Absolute waste. I've spent a lot of time getting to know some of the girls here, still miss some of the old ones who aren't there anymore, and I've always been treated well and treated them well. I gave this chick the extra $20 we agreed because I'm not a prick, but if this is an indication of the future of the joint it's heartbreaking. At the very least I'll have to call ahead from now on and only schedule with the girls I know.I can confirm, as Annie did, that woman was Haley. She is awful. I highly recommend people avoid her.

Also for everyone's benefit, Zoey provides the exact same experience. Another one to avoid.

There are a number of very good ones still there, but not those two.

Wolverines
07-15-21, 11:53
Thanks for the review.


I had time to kill and stopped by TOP long day honestly stopped because I know they have a shower. Only girl I saw was summer. To be clear it's not a massage but I knew this going in first 20 minutes was dead silent I was ready to leave. But it was a 14 hour day and the light touch felt good. Tip was mentioned but I just ignored it. While I was still on my chest we started talking about life and she started to open up. On the flip she started to undress I made mention of how much I had and then how much I was going to spend (off went the clothes she is a few years younger then and typically I don't like the spinner body but. I had a great time got my full hr and left happy. I'm writing this only because I know its been rather dreadful reviews for the most part but for a quick fix a smile and charming attitude seemed to get me the same service I get at body works for less donation.

Wolverines
07-15-21, 11:54
Thanks for the heads up.


Stay away!

Total ripoff. The girl is the one in the pics, she is hot, but the experience is awful. Paid 1 hour up front and was ripped off on time while experiencing THE most disengaged, awful excuse of a HJ of my life. Told the guy who was waiting in the parking lot to leave and don't do it, so at least I saved someone their dough and kept them from a customer. Please keep away from these two (there's a girl who just takes money and schedules).

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/sneaky-freaky-red-headed-blond/492376037325

Wolverines
07-15-21, 11:58
Thanks for toftt.


So decided to TOFTT to see if I could end a FS dry spell. Long story, short: Ended the dry spell, but not worth it at all.

I actually find her first in the escort section of STG but she also posts in massage as well:

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/latin/come-get-more-melanie/793783726167

Melanie herself is real and was willing to send a specific verification pic of my pose choice. Like most MPs, she has a little more tummy than her pictures would suggest, thick but not fat, and pretty good looking, especially for Latina lovers like myself. The place she operates out of is a fairly new salon-type spot at the end of the mini plaza on Eastern next to the graveyard (she said she's only been open for about 6 months). She has a few other girls working there with her, one of which I will also be talking about, and they were just hanging out and talking literal feet from the "room" I was lead to, which only had a curtain partition.

Believe it or not, this is where things take a turn, not a terrible one, but definitely not good. First off, the door fee is $$ for an hr. To be fair to her, that is the advertised fee, so shame on me for assuming more than I should've. The shame due to her is how horribly she shorted my time. If I was being insanely generous, I would say she may have rubbed me for about 10 minutes, before leaving out to take care of some other customer that walked in (I guess none of the other girls can take care of the business end stuff). She had me flip while she was out and when she came back, that's when she informed me that that $$ didn't even include her getting comfortable, which she wanted an extra $ for just that. And forget FS, she only does that for return costumers. She did allow touching, but that's kinda pointless over clothes to me.

At this point, I should've just cut my losses and took the tug, but I guess she sensed my disappointment, cause she offered to tag out with one of her girls that would do FS, as long as I paid another $$. Fuck it, I'm already here and I'd have to pay even more than that to go see my usual go to, so I said fine, no point for a total loss. In walks in another, less cute, but still good looking Latina girl (think Lauren / London from pacific but about 100 pounds smaller) who Melanie called Star.

Sidenote: I'm fairly certain she was this girl: https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/latina-star-616-216-6294-use/201722886142.

Same name, the escort ad styles match up and the body type is similar, albeit thinner in the pics. Same goes for this girl: https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/strawberries-cream/072368384474 who was a red head, actually body accurate, white girl I saw chilling out there. I can't confirm either one of them, but I'd be willing to put money on it that they are.

Anyway, Star comes in, strips, and gives an unremarkable CBJ, then bends over for some good enough covered K9. Not $$ good, but good enough that I didn't feel like it was a total waste.

All in all, I think Melanie is going to be wondering why her business is failing soon enough. Which sucks, cause the girls themselves were pretty cute and well mannered, none of them were rude or snotty and all greeted me when I walked in and left, and the two I interacted with gave off really chill vibes (for the few minutes I actually had with them). But I didn't get a $$ experience. Firstly, they need an actual room for the girls to hang out and talk in away from massage rooms. The ending wasn't really worth $$ and the massage damn sure wasn't either. If the door fee wasn't writing on the wall enough, the time shorting is definitely going to be the nail in the coffin. From time I walked in to time I walked out, was exactly 25 minutes, and that includes Melanie walking out once and then swapping with another. With any luck, Melanie will get a dose of reality, realize she's trying to run a business in GR, NOT NYC, and fix her pricing and time shorting. Otherwise the best I could hope for is that they all find there ways to either pacific (cascade not kentwood) or just straight up go the independent escorts route and figure out some realistic pricing, cause I would like to experience more of these girls before writing them all off for good, but that ain't going to happen with their current business model.

Love The Lips
07-15-21, 11:58
I've been a long-time frequenter of Panacea (six+ years) and I feel somewhat bad that I haven't made reports on my dozens of good experiences- I'll be sure to do so in the future. But today, for the first time ever, I had an AWFUL time. Gorgeous darker skinned girl, maybe Latina or mixed, didn't catch her name, checked me in for half hour. In the room I placed $40 on the counter- always at least the starting point. Well same girl comes in and asks what the $40 is for. I told her "your tip" and she said that all the girls there "work different" and she won't do HJ for $40. Wants $80. I never had this here before. Caught off guard I offered sixty and she reluctantly agreed. After 30 seconds of rubbing my back and arms she asks if I want to turn over. Really? So I did- total limp noodle (that $ discussion really sapped all the sexy out of it) but I tried to make the best of it. Jackhammered my buddy, and swatted away my hand when I reached for her leg with "No touching, kay?" I asked her to get the towels and clean me up. Absolute waste. I've spent a lot of time getting to know some of the girls here, still miss some of the old ones who aren't there anymore, and I've always been treated well and treated them well. I gave this chick the extra $20 we agreed because I'm not a prick, but if this is an indication of the future of the joint it's heartbreaking. At the very least I'll have to call ahead from now on and only schedule with the girls I know.That's terrible! Most of the good ones there get comfortable (nude) right away without prompting, if they don't, I ask them to. Touching, titty sucking and usually FIV is the norm, if not their tip will reflect it. The fun ones that I'm aware of currently are Lexi, Eve, Ava and Annie. These ladies never mention a tip and don't do the awkward negotiating. Also, the queen Natasha is now back on Fridays!

Wolverines
07-15-21, 12:01
Thanks 4 the reviews.


Had an amazing time per usual with Berlin earlier this morning and then later this afternoon with Kacie. Don't worry guys I'm not a millionaire although if I was I'd see them everyday LOL. It just worked out with my crazy work schedule to see them both on the same day. I crunch 65 hrs a week in 5 days and Fridays are a normal 8 hr work day for me. Anyway. Yeah. Kacie and Berlin are two gorgeous ladies both inside and out. Their kindness and ability to hold a caring and sincere conversation is just as refreshing as the massage itself. I've seen Berlin 3 times now and Kacie was my first today. Oh how I can't wait until I'm done with child support so I can hopefully afford more frequent visits someday. They both have my loyalty, admiration, and love from here on out. It's not only Friday but I'm the happiest I've been in a long time. These are beautiful and kind souls fellas. Let's not take them for granted. Peace and love.


Had a great massage with Berlin. She gives much better than the average massage out there. She has a beautiful body and all over tan, better looking than her picture She would fit perfectly on a boat in a bikini soaking up the sun. She has a great personality, energy and positive attitude. I enjoyed getting to know her just as much as the massage.

She was fun throughout and not shy to jump on top to work out any tight areas. Flip was fun and got all I expected on my first solo visit. I will definitely add her to the top of my rotation. For being newer, she definitely performs like an expert. YMMV as she prefers non aggressive clients.

No additional services offered by her or the group there outside of a body slide. Hard to schedule as she is popular, not a surprise as she is very attractive and some will pay for that. Price in her ad.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/sweet-fun-sexiness-at-bodywork/493707894182

Wolverines
07-15-21, 12:05
Thanks for all the reports.


Saw Madison at bodywork, sweet girl. Friendly convo, takes direction well. Seems to genuinely enjoy what she's doing. She is still kinda new so a little hesitant to initiate but is willing to do what makes the client happy. Will definitely repeat!


So for a few weeks now, I've been trying to sync schedules with Madisson at Bodyworks By Us. Well, as it turns out, today was the day! I got together with her for a half hour visit.

From my first introduction, I have told her what I am looking for, and she.

I arrived at their location, which I have been to several times now, and I was grateful to see it is still pristine, safe, and private, with a private entrance. I let her know I was there and she opened the door for me.

I was greeted by a beautiful young woman that instantly made me recall all of my secretary fantasies. The look, the glasses, the cheeriness. Like an intern in my office! She has a delightful ass, and a disarming smile. I was shown my room and told to get comfortable. Plenty of light, clean sheets, and soothing music. I was ready and she was back within a minute or so.

She used oil, and gave me a somewhat hard massage, just like I asked. It was spot on. She was effective in not staying in one spot, and concentrating on the areas I told her needed attention. She did pretty much exactly what I asked for.

She got comfortable from the start, and I was able delight in her soft skin and the assets I was needing to explore. Good conversation, and silence when it felt right. She managed to get all my spots while on my stomach.

With the flip, I really got to take in her beauty. Like I said, she has the look that fulfills my secretary fantasy, but she also is reminiscent of the girl next door for sure. Her youth, her smile, those glasses. A great combination. Her hands were busy on me and mine on her, and she was oh so encouraging the whole time. The finish was extremely satisfying.

I have no doubt I will see her again. I know what she can do for me, and she meets almost every checkmark on my list. The rate for the half hour is $110. Typical for Brits place. Well worth it in my book. She is VERY good at communicating, so get a hold of her and let her take care of you too!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/relax-come-take-a-load-off-th/754687349688


Had my second visit with Madison from bodywork and was better than the first. Will definitely see again.


So. My schedule has changed I normally partake in one or two weekly appointments. However with my schedule change I have to do evenings now. I happened upon Madison at body works. I have nothing bad to say. She is sweet and cute. Very sensual prices on her ad on tryst otherwise feel free to pm me for digits. My time with her has been magical. You don't have to believe me and frankly she might not be your cup of tea but she is dependent and a great time. Side note please bare with her she is very tired and only works after 9 pm.


Saw Madison again, haven't seen any other reviews of her since my TOFTT and unsure how much she's working. I believe she's later at night only, which works well for you who can't cut away during the day.

Pros:
2nd visit was better than the first, she is quickly learning how to handle appointments.
Went in for a Hhr, stayed for an hr, time flew LOL.
Massage skills better than before.
Extremely enjoyable and drawn out flip.

Cons:
She's still new, not a con for me but not your seasoned veteran just yet.

Recommend and will repeat. Stay safe!

https://tryst.link/massage/new-hottie


I've seen a few posts asking about Madison and hopefully will provide you with some insight to consider visiting her. I was her first client, so I guess it's as good as a TOFTT as I'll get LOL.

Pros:
I liked her massage technique. Nice pressure.
She was nervous in a surprisingly cute way.
Extremely nice, receptive to input.
Gives off a sexy librarian vibe, maybe it was the glasses.

Cons:
In all honesty I would feel like it would be a disservice to her to give any negative feedback being she's so new to this. With that being said, I would suggest taking this into account seeing her.
She's green, she's learning, she's asks a lot of questions (in a good way) but what she is not yet is an expert in craft. I am confident she will learn quickly. Just be kind and honest and you'll enjoy.
I enjoyed my session with her and will repeat. The problem is there are many good choices with Bodyworkbyus that I want the Brit buffet and will not limit myself to just one of them LOL.

Stay safe!

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/relax-come-take-a-load-off-th/754687349688

Wolverines
07-15-21, 12:06
Thanks Clark.


Finally got a chance to see Ari again a couple of weeks ago. Still working out of her downtown residence. Booked an hr appt. At 70 hr. Great massage, she really can work out all your kinks. Good amount of teasing and conversation. Ended up finishing Russian. Tip was hr rate for a total of $40. YMMV but more is on the table. Would repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/private-location-book-appointm/066173145463

Wolverines
07-15-21, 12:08
Thanks for reporting back.


Sorry to hear, I have seen Aliese numerous times and thought she was awesome. My last visit with her was below par at best. I usually will give a lady the benefit of the doubt if they are off for an appointment, everyone has personal stuff going on, but I was taken aback by how non sensual the experience was.

For me personally my time and money will be spent elsewhere. If I ever go back to panacea, it'll be with Natalie or someone who has been more favorably reviewed recently. I don't want to try and figure out if this is becoming more of a trend with the ladies there or if it's only an exception.


Damn that sucks, sorry that happened to you. I haven't seen Aliese in a while but usually she gets completely nude right at the start. I wonder if it was her time of the month, although that still is no excuse for the rudeness. I agree with the other poster that if you declined the flip, she didn't deserve a tip with that attitude but since she did the flip and HJ, I would have just tipped the minimal like $20 and maybe that would teach her to be a little more kind.


I have visited Panacea several times and have seen most of the popular therapists and always left very happy. I am familiar with how Panacea is and what not to expect. I am a good tipper and always show up freshly showered. This time, I showed up as a walk in (normally I call ahead and get an appointment with one of the therapists that I am familiar with). The only one available was Aliese, so I figured what the hell, why not. I knew she has been there a long time. I chose an hour because I don't like to be rushed. I was surprised that she didn't get comfortable right away and after a short time, I asked her if she would. Her response was kinda bitchy, but after a short time she reluctantly did down to her panties. I rubbed her legs a bit and her ass. As I rubbed around the front, she said (in a very bitchy and snappy voice) Don't go under. Although it really ruined the mood, I tried to blow it off and said something like I thought you might like it and she just said that's why I left them on. It wasn't as much as what she said, but how she said it. At that point, I backed off and was quiet. For the ending, I just tried my best to make it as quick as possible as I just wanted it to be over. I still tipped her. 5, but I normally tip more even for a half hour. I even had one experience that was at the wrong time of the months and pants stayed on and I still tipped more (that was only a half hour too). I will never repeat with Aliese again, even if she's the only one working. I know some people seem to like her, but I never want to repeat that experience again. When I say bitchy and snappy, that's putting it mildly. I have never had anyone at any spa respond the way she did and I don't feel I did anything to deserve it. I am respectful and don't do anything beyond anyone's wishes, but I can't read her mind.

Wolverines
07-15-21, 12:10
Thanks guys.


I saw Ava at Panacea. My only complaint isn't with her, but the appointment system there. I got there and my scheduled appointment was showing as cancelled. She had another appointment scheduled 30 minutes later and asked if I could just do half hour instead of the hour I had booked. I told her I would rather not since I drove 2 hours. She was super nice and rescheduled her other appointment. I had a great time with her. The massage was excellent and I left much more relaxed than when I walked in.

I had another appointment with her scheduled for another day. I made sure to ask that I was put in the books for 2 pm. I got there at 1:30 and my appointment was not on the books. And I was told that since they didn't have any appointments and were slow, that they were going to be closing at 2.

I'm not sure if I will give them another shot. But if they don't fix the scheduling system. I will not be going back. Even though Ava was amazing.


Longtime Serenity / Hayley customer, frustrated with lack of response. Tuesday of this week pulled in to Serenity and noticed another gent buzzing at the door, waiting and receiving no response. Don't understand what's going on there. Drove straight from there to Panacea. First time there.

Spoke with Eve when I walked in, and drew Ava. If I try Panacea again, will most certainly try Eve, stunning. $ for hh. Ava was conversational. Massage and flip were decent. Limited roaming. Good music. Ava asked how she was doing and wanted to please. Very nice girl and worth the visit.

Wolverines
07-15-21, 12:15
Thanks for the reviews.


When I visited Madison for a TOFTT, I got the chance to meet Alissa in the flesh. I had been wary of visiting her in the past, even more so about some recent reviews, but I chatted with her after my session with Madison and got some instant vibes of wanting a session with her. It didn't take long. And let me tell you, she's my MILF unicorn. She's a badass sexy woman who knows how to tease and please.

Pros:
Looks better than her posted pics, she's gorgeous IMO.
Extremely sexy and sensual.
Amazing time on the table.

Cons:
Only had time for a Hhr visit because it was so late. No way I'm booking less than an hour with her in the future.
She is 100% what I'm looking for in a masseuse and if some of my other reviews have led you to find decent options in that aspect, Alissa is another one to check out.

Bodyworkbyus continues to offer really good choices. I get it, they're not the only option in town but I have a hard time going elsewhere when the likes of Alex, Alissa, Brit, Kacie and others are there with new ones coming in.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/come-have-some-fun/061675995248


I was in town and wanted to have some fun. I didn't quite realize that this was a massage but I have to admit that this was one of the best experiences I've had with a massage, ever. She is unbelievably hot and this massage was beyond my expectations. Perhaps my experience is better than most but she's my new ATF and will be a guarantee go to whenever I'm in GR. I'm not going to go in to details but I would highly recommend that you see if her if you can get some of her time. You won't regret it.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/come-have-some-fun/134397213297


Shame you had trouble. I have had a lot of fun with Alissa. She is quite attractive, fit, and fun. But she doesn't work often, which can make her especially busy on the times she is in. That makes managing the schedule tough.

Better luck next time.


She is a complete waste of time. Set up an appointment last night and told me to wait in the parking lot and message her when I got there. I got there a little early and let her know I was there. Didn't hear anything back and messaged her again at my appointment time and still didn't hear anything back. After waiting 10 min I told her that it was past my appointment time and she wasn't responding so I was leaving. But the part that pissed me off the most was as she had me sitting there waiting because she didn't want me to come into the building until she told me to I saw 3 other guys walk into the building. So why are they allowed to walk in and I have to wait in my car? She has to learn time management and communication to the people she already has booked an appointments with.

Wolverines
07-15-21, 12:17
Thanks Clark.


Set up an appt with blue the other day. Great communication and easy set up. Got held up in traffic and let her know I was running just a few minutes late. She said ok no problem. I get there and she comes out and I guess took a walk in before I got there. Maybe she thought I wouldn't show? Her next available time was a few hours later which wouldn't work. Didn't get to have a session with her. Pros it was definitely her in the pics. May try again when I have some free time.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/red-white-blue-is-the-one-fo/060700824713

TigerEye2525
07-15-21, 13:08
Thanks 4 the reviews.Just wanted to say thank you to Berlin for being so kind as to include my review of her. Haven't seen her in a bit and I'm glad she's been so busy. It's always an amazing time when I'm on her table. I truly wish I had the financial means to see her more often. I always am so grateful for her and her friendship.

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AverageJoe87
07-16-21, 13:49
That's terrible! Most of the good ones there get comfortable (nude) right away without prompting, if they don't, I ask them to. Touching, titty sucking and usually FIV is the norm, if not their tip will reflect it. The fun ones that I'm aware of currently are Lexi, Eve, Ava and Annie. These ladies never mention a tip and don't do the awkward negotiating. Also, the queen Natasha is now back on Fridays!I'd like to add to your list Allison, Melissa, Natalie, and Audrey as "good ones." I've never seen Kimy or Ari, Hailey was obviously a disaster, and word is that Zoey is as well.

ZzTopSterZz
07-16-21, 16:02
Shout out to Wolverine for his work summarizing reviews and adding links / pics. I am not local and appreciate the brotherhood of mongers in GR. Y'all gave me some great tips last year and I hope I can get back up there soon.

Electronman
07-16-21, 19:03
I'd like to add to your list Allison, Melissa, Natalie, and Audrey as "good ones." I've never seen Kimy or Ari, Hailey was obviously a disaster, and word is that Zoey is as well.Kimmy: Nice body but uninspired, boring massage and finish. I would not repeat.

Cuminator
07-17-21, 03:04
Between Grand Rapids and Lansing. Save your money and drive on by. Two women work there, both late forties to early fifties. One looks like a misproportioned fat blob of a woman with no redeeming feminine features the other gives a decent BJ for $ and will do BBBJ cum on her wrinkly flat tits for the same, elected for CBJ, should have brought two to feel safe. The house maddam looks about 70+ with the appearance of dying of aids yet has more redeeming features than the blob. 40 hhr /60 hr.

VegiGuy
07-18-21, 02:35
Found myself and the north side of gr so I figured I would treat myself to a stop at panacea. Second time seeing Ava and it was better than the first. She was more relaxed, got comfortable right away. Rub was on Brit's girls level and the flip was awesome. Lot's of dirty talk and the smile she has while she is working is sexy as hell. Haven't had a bad experience there yet. Going to have to go and see Natasha again. Going to try and get a duo with her and Natasha. Will let you know how it goes.

AmpPerv
07-18-21, 07:46
Went to see Ashley but she was on vacation. Saw Amy, in her upper thirties I would guess, excellent English, good size rack for a China girl, new here from Texas. Told her up front I wanted lots of teasing throughout the massage, I thought she agreed but it didn't happen. Too much time spent on upper back. Finally went lower to my hips, then the teasing started and it was great. Really nice soft touch, smooth hands gliding all over, lots of gentle poking. This lasted a while, it was me who suggested I turn over as it frequently takes me a while to get to the end and she could wear herself out teasing my hips while stroking me as that has happened with other MTs. Really took her time on the HJ, changing her technique repeatedly with a few different stroke methods.

I tried to get under her shirt while she was finishing me but she asked how much I tip, told her seventy, she said not enough and I said forget it. Did allow otc squeezing of that puppy which I gladly did. Overall a very pleasant visit.

1 hr /60 tip /70.

White300
07-19-21, 13:50
Can anybody update me on the latest girl at Bodyworks?

Sparty On 1234
07-19-21, 14:01
Can anybody update me on the latest girl at Bodyworks?I met her last week briefly. Had an appointment with Berlin.

She looks pretty hot. Tall with nice curves. Plan on seeing her soon. Good luck! Please provide some feedback if you see her. Thanks.

NoseJelly
07-19-21, 21:41
Went to see Ashley but she was on vacation. Saw Amy, in her upper thirties I would guess, excellent English, good size rack for a China girl, new here from Texas. Told her up front I wanted lots of teasing throughout the massage, I thought she agreed but it didn't happen. Too much time spent on upper back. Finally went lower to my hips, then the teasing started and it was great. Really nice soft touch, smooth hands gliding all over, lots of gentle poking. This lasted a while, it was me who suggested I turn over as it frequently takes me a while to get to the end and she could wear herself out teasing my hips while stroking me as that has happened with other MTs. Really took her time on the HJ, changing her technique repeatedly with a few different stroke methods.I've seen Ashley and Amy and both do a good job on the backside and the Flip. Relax has a good crew now. Which explains why it's busy busy after 5 pm. Hopefully these ladies are here for a while and don't get rotated out like many of the other good ones have! I haven't seen the 3rd lady, KaKa yet, but she seems friendly and cute. She's the youngest on the crew.

NJ.

Darshane
07-20-21, 16:49
Called Luxe yesterday to set up a 1 hr appt. For today. Talked with Vicki. Today I called 30 min. In advance, as requested, and when V answered, she apologized because neither of her girls showed up today. She offered a 30-min. W / her. I reluctantly accepted, not because of who, but because I dislike the rush of 30 minute sessions.

I will say the location is fine. Vicki was also fine. Very easy on the eyes. Unfortunately, on the flip was when I discovered the additional donation for a simple HJ. I volunteered to do it myself, and she did assist a bit. During that conversation was when I chatted about menu items and realized I do not have a job that would support a regular Vicki visit. Holy cow!

So, I appreciate her working me in when her girls didn't show today, but I will not be revisiting Vicki.

Wolverines
07-21-21, 01:54
Thanks VegiGuy.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/ava/000201216899


Found myself and the north side of gr so I figured I would treat myself to a stop at panacea. Second time seeing Ava and it was better than the first. She was more relaxed, got comfortable right away. Rub was on Brit's girls level and the flip was awesome. Lot's of dirty talk and the smile she has while she is working is sexy as hell. Haven't had a bad experience there yet. Going to have to go and see Natasha again. Going to try and get a duo with her and Natasha. Will let you know how it goes.

Benz1
07-21-21, 02:34
Hate going to Royal but wanted to see Ashley for and expert prostate massage.

Worked it out with Hayley. Ashley is now taking appointments at Serenity.

Been awhile since I've seen her and got the Full Monty. Currently I don't think any provider in Grand Rapids does a Prostate massage better than her.

Told her she needed to turn up the heat on her photos too.

The pics in her ad are real and I snapped this one today.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/available-now/400039068018

Love The Lips
07-21-21, 07:33
Called Luxe yesterday to set up a 1 hr appt. For today. Talked with Vicki. Today I called 30 min. In advance, as requested, and when V answered, she apologized because neither of her girls showed up today. She offered a 30-min. W / her. I reluctantly accepted, not because of who, but because I dislike the rush of 30 minute sessions.

I will say the location is fine. Vicki was also fine. Very easy on the eyes. Unfortunately, on the flip was when I discovered the additional donation for a simple HJ. I volunteered to do it myself, and she did assist a bit. During that conversation was when I chatted about menu items and realized I do not have a job that would support a regular Vicki visit. Holy cow!

So, I appreciate her working me in when her girls didn't show today, but I will not be revisiting Vicki.That's too bad as I talked to her on the phone a few days back and she sounded very personable. Can you describe what Vicki looked like and the tip she expected for a simple HJ as well as other options? Thanks.

Kim Solo
07-21-21, 09:47
Hate going to Royal but wanted to see Ashley for and expert prostate massage.

Worked it out with Hayley. Ashley is now taking appointments at Serenity.

Been awhile since I've seen her and got the Full Monty. Currently I don't think any provider in Grand Rapids does a Prostate massage better than her.

Told her she needed to turn up the heat on her photos too.

The pics in her ad are real and I snapped this one today.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/available-now/400039068018PM'd you Benz.

Darshane
07-21-21, 11:44
That's too bad as I talked to her on the phone a few days back and she sounded very personable. Can you describe what Vicki looked like and the tip she expected for a simple HJ as well as other options? Thanks.I can tell you Vicki is very pretty. She said usually she has her hair down, but had it up because of the last minute arrangements.

PM for more, please.

OcalaMale67
07-21-21, 14:49
I am flying up for some business on Monday and will be there all week. Got a hotel near the airport.

Trying to find a good place for HE and maybe a prostate exam.

Any place to stay away from?

I know all the places down here in Florida. Trying to expand my horizons.

OM67.

Member #6481
07-21-21, 16:54
That's too bad as I talked to her on the phone a few days back and she sounded very personable. Can you describe what Vicki looked like and the tip she expected for a simple HJ as well as other options? Thanks.I had an appointment with Issa at Luxe last week. Same story there. One hour was $100 and then she wanted an additional 2 Benjamins for a nude hand job. Did a DIY, she seemed a little torqued but not too bad. $300 for a hand job I'm just not ever going to do. She said FS was available next visit. For an amount that nearly doubled that.

Cute girls, but not that cute.

Arish
07-21-21, 16:58
I had an appointment with Issa at Luxe last week. Same story there. One hour was $100 and then she wanted an additional 2 Benjamins for a nude hand job. Did a DIY, she seemed a little torqued but not too bad. $300 for a hand job I'm just not ever going to do. She said FS was available next visit. For an amount that nearly doubled that.

Cute girls, but not that cute.I went to see her and she sure has GPS and a bad attitude. She wouldn't take any clothes off and she wanted $200 for a standard HJ with clothes on and no touching her. I just left after the massage.

Lunchbox Hero
07-21-21, 19:22
Spent an hour with Brit this afternoon. Absolutely stunning lady. Great conversation, very personable. Fantastic body, A+ massage, nice tease prior to flip. After the flip. Her technique is amazing. Finish was fantastic. Highly recommend this business and the two ladies I've seen so far (Brit and Alex).

Jason45
07-21-21, 19:26
Alissa was hands down amazing. Great massage and sexy as hell.


When I visited Madison for a TOFTT, I got the chance to meet Alissa in the flesh.

I had been wary of visiting her in the past, even more so about some recent reviews, but I chatted with her after my session with Madison and got some instant vibes of wanting a session with her.

It didn't take long. And let me tell you, she's my MILF unicorn. She's a badass sexy woman who knows how to tease and please.

Pros:

Looks better than her posted pics, she's gorgeous IMO.

Extremely sexy and sensual.

Amazing time on the table.

Cons:

Only had time for a Hhr visit because it was so late. No way I'm booking less than an hour with her in the future.

She is 100% what I'm looking for in a masseuse and if some of my other reviews have led you to find decent options in that aspect, Alissa is another one to check out.

Bodyworkbyus continues to offer really good choices. I get it, they're not the only option in town but I have a hard time going elsewhere when the likes of Alex, Alissa, Brit, Kacie and others are there with new ones coming in.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/come-have-some-fun/061675995248

VegiGuy
07-22-21, 01:33
Stopped by this week and overheard the girls talking. The new place on 36th is up and running. All you have to do is ask.

MassageHunter
07-22-21, 05:48
Earlier this week I found myself on 28th Street and decided to give Relax a try, first time there for me. I ended up drawing Lisa, and I hope I'm not butchering the name because her English was non-existent.

The massage started as normal and she applied pretty decent pressure and concentrated mainly on my back for the first 15 minutes. Shortly after that the teasing began and she had me up on all fours and she was roaming all over my undercarriage. I flipped around the 20 minute mark and she proceeded directly to the finish. She lifted up her shirt and lowered the bra and rubbed her small but perky boobs all over. I was taking a minute to reach full attention so she placed my hand on her vagina (over her pants) and directed me to rub all over. She then climbed on top for a nice standard finish and allowed my hands to roam all over OTC, I did not push for much more. After the cleanup and to my surprise she had me flip over and did another 10 minutes of massage. This actually took me closer to a total time of 40-45 minutes.

After cleaning me up she helped me dress. The entire time that I was dressing she was still playing with my nipples and junior. Once I stood up she gave me a long hug and it shocked me how tiny she was. Her head was barely up to my chest. She ended up being very playful and I would definitely repeat with her. I probably over tipped at $80, but she was a ton of fun and went well over the half hour I paid for.

DjBiker
07-22-21, 07:38
Hate going to Royal but wanted to see Ashley for and expert prostate massage.

Worked it out with Hayley. Ashley is now taking appointments at Serenity.

Been awhile since I've seen her and got the Full Monty. Currently I don't think any provider in Grand Rapids does a Prostate massage better than her.

Told her she needed to turn up the heat on her photos too.

The pics in her ad are real and I snapped this one today.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/available-now/40003906801899.9% shitty reviews and this guy is able to obtain. 01% great time ufb.

E1030
07-22-21, 09:32
Looking for a massage, where the girl finishes with a bbbjtcim.

JMaul
07-22-21, 10:04
Apologies if another review has been posted on Nikki at Bodyworks and my TOFTT applies.

Nikki is new to the Bodyworks squad.

I met her at night at the nice posh location Brit has set up downtown. Nice rooms too, I appreciate discretion and privacy so I typically avoid the daytime traffic in hopes of having a more private encounter.

IMO Nikki is absolutely stunning and has a demeanor and quality of service to match. My reaction after our first visit was that this lady is my InstaATF. I had high expectations meeting her the first time and they were greatly exceeded.

Pros:

Above average massage. She knows her way around your body for sure.

Complete MILFy package. Between her and Alissa at Bodyworks it would be hard to choose and I'd want both at the same time LOL.

Extremely sensual from the very start to finish.

Instant positive chemistry, she's a pro at making a good connection.

Full time! Stop seeing losers who short you time!

Cons:

I have none. Seriously. And if you think this is me white knighting someone go right ahead and believe that, it means I have a better chance booking with her on the regular LOL.

Another great experience at Bodyworks and highly, highly recommend.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/brains-and-beauty-bodyworks-ni/725181562333

Benz1
07-22-21, 10:38
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/simply-sweet-massage/412409890330

Pretty sure this is who he was referring to.


Needed a Really great Massage and BJ today. I hooked up a great combo.

Sweetie (Simply Sweet Massage) is one of the best in GR. She does not allow roaming and doesn't take anything off.

To take the edge off I decided to get my BBBJCIM before the massage from Curly Sue. Great 10 min quicky with swallow on my to see Sweetie, she's a champ.

While having great conversation with Sweetie on the table she informed me that she often plays with the pickle before during or at the end. She will play with it during the entire appointment. No need to take the edge off before I see her next time. I'll schedule the first hhr for the boys and the rest for the rest of me. Live and learn. She's easy to talk to and easy to schedule too.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/simply-sweet-massage/663811017154


Hate going to Royal but wanted to see Ashley for and expert prostate massage.

Worked it out with Hayley. Ashley is now taking appointments at Serenity.

Been awhile since I've seen her and got the Full Monty. Currently I don't think any provider in Grand Rapids does a Prostate massage better than her.

Told her she needed to turn up the heat on her photos too.

The pics in her ad are real and I snapped this one today.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/available-now/400039068018


I am flying up for some business on Monday and will be there all week. Got a hotel near the airport.

Trying to find a good place for HE and maybe a prostate exam.

Any place to stay away from?

I know all the places down here in Florida. Trying to expand my horizons.

OM67.If you're looking for Prostate Massage, there's very few options in GR.

These two will do it for you, Sweetie and Ashley Winter.

The moped rider is right, Ashley has 99% bad reviews, I'm one of the members that doesn't treat her like a 15 yr old. I get it, she looks 15. If she detected a predator attitude, she kicks you out.

Milk chocolate bark is always a good ice breaker For Ashley from Sweetlands on Plainfield.

I'll post a couple pics so you get the big 15 yr old picture. I snapped those on Tuesday.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/available-now/400039068018

Detroit Brian
07-22-21, 13:34
If you're looking for Prostate Massage, there's very few options in GR.

These two will do it for you, Sweetie and Ashley Winter.

The moped rider is right, Ashley has 99% bad reviews, I'm one of the members that doesn't treat her like a 15 yr old. I get it, she looks 15. If she detected a predator attitude, she kicks you out.

Milk chocolate bark is always a good ice breaker For Ashley from Sweetlands on Plainfield.

I'll post a couple pics so you get the big 15 yr old picture. I snapped those on Tuesday.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/available-now/400039068018This one was my fault for not RTFF carefully enough. Ashley had a horrible attitude, a million rules, and total GPS. Wanted 400 for FS. I got a 15 minute, reluctant prostate massage and HJ for $200 total. Worst time I've had in a long time.

Again, my own fault. The bad reviews are there. I just clicked a link, thinking it was the girl from Royal. Not super familiar with GR spas, so I just went to the address she gave me.

Avoid, avoid, avoid.

OcalaMale67
07-22-21, 15:04
If you're looking for Prostate Massage, there's very few options in GR.

These two will do it for you, Sweetie and Ashley Winter.

The moped rider is right, Ashley has 99% bad reviews, I'm one of the members that doesn't treat her like a 15 yr old. I get it, she looks 15. If she detected a predator attitude, she kicks you out.

Milk chocolate bark is always a good ice breaker For Ashley from Sweetlands on Plainfield.

I'll post a couple pics so you get the big 15 yr old picture. I snapped those on Tuesday.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/available-now/400039068018Thanks to all and great pics Benz1 I will try a place out and give my review. I am reading more reviews and hopefully I have enough cash to try a few places out. FS or prostate. Or topless HJ. I'm not sure what I will be in the mood for but I will read some more over the weekend and hopefully try out 1-2 places. You guys are very helpful. Thanks again.

Benz1
07-22-21, 17:44
Thanks to all and great pics Benz1 I will try a place out and give my review. I am reading more reviews and hopefully I have enough cash to try a few places out. FS or prostate. Or topless HJ. I'm not sure what I will be in the mood for but I will read some more over the weekend and hopefully try out 1-2 places. You guys are very helpful. Thanks again.Ashley fee for massage plus fetish (prostate HJ massage) fully nude appointment is 150 hhr. Includes door fee

The pic is real and recent, I snapped it Tuesday while giving her a massage.

BaseHit
07-22-21, 18:20
Ashley fee for massage plus fetish (prostate HJ massage) fully nude appointment is 150 hhr. Includes door fee

The pic is real and recent, I snapped it Tuesday while giving her a massage.Thanks for the picture and review Benzi. Always can rely on you!

MarkWa
07-22-21, 22:05
After seeing a couple of good reviews on Wonder I decided to walk in late morning last week. I thought the woman at the cash register was just taking money since she was at least 60 but nope she was my person. Massage was average and so was finish. Didn't ask her to get comfortable since I didn't want to see it. Guess next time I better ask for someone different if I go there.

Detroit Brian
07-23-21, 00:46
Ashley fee for massage plus fetish (prostate HJ massage) fully nude appointment is 150 hhr. Includes door fee

The pic is real and recent, I snapped it Tuesday while giving her a massage.I'm happy that some mongers have a good experience with this SP. My experience with her was extremely frustrating, though. She said on the phone that she only discussed services in person. Okay, that's reasonable. Well, she wouldn't really discuss prices in person either. She just kept saying that the more generous I was, the better the session would be. I offered $150 right away, and she basically said that would get me a HJ and nothing else. I went up to $200 and she said she would take her clothes off. I had hoped I could get some FIV or even DATY. Not to be had. She was actually a real B* to me from the beginning. And I promise, I'm a very kind, happy monger.

The pic is definitely her. She has a lot of tattoos, some very rudimentary. She has a fantastic ass. However, there was not much playing with that ass that was available to me at the $200 price tag. I was immediately regretful that I hadn't chosen many of the other better value options in GR. This happens sometimes in this hobby, though, and the best we can do is report our own experiences.

So, YMMV, but I personally don't think by much with this SP.

Be careful out there.

Love The Lips
07-23-21, 09:56
Haven't seen them or got a description but there are 2 news girls that just started this week at Panacea, Lena and Kelly. Anybody have any reports yet? I tend to like the more petite ones.

Benz1
07-23-21, 10:02
Negotiations get easier if we see rates and menu posted on this site.

When we see the rates posted, it gives us a good starting point.

Everyone should help members negotiate by posting menu, price and real pics that we take. Not the filtered pics they post.

Real girls use real pics.

Let's keep it real. Stay safe

UtrGuy
07-23-21, 10:10
Benz has done excellent things for this community but I'd respectfully disagree on recommending Ashley. While he has had good luck and good experiences with her the fact is she treats customers like shit. She intentionally overcharges and has severe gps. It's not just me saying this. I think she is really attractive but I'm my two sessions with her I've left them feeling extremely disappointed. There will not be a third try with miss Ashley.


I'm happy that some mongers have a good experience with this SP. My experience with her was extremely frustrating, though. She said on the phone that she only discussed services in person. Okay, that's reasonable. Well, she wouldn't really discuss prices in person either. She just kept saying that the more generous I was, the better the session would be. I offered $150 right away, and she basically said that would get me a HJ and nothing else. I went up to $200 and she said she would take her clothes off. I had hoped I could get some FIV or even DATY. Not to be had. She was actually a real B* to me from the beginning. And I promise, I'm a very kind, happy monger.

The pic is definitely her. She has a lot of tattoos, some very rudimentary. She has a fantastic ass. However, there was not much playing with that ass that was available to me at the $200 price tag. I was immediately regretful that I hadn't chosen many of the other better value options in GR. This happens sometimes in this hobby, though, and the best we can do is report our own experiences.

So, YMMV, but I personally don't think by much with this SP.

Be careful out there.

Benz1
07-23-21, 10:21
Agreed.

Most members on this board do not like her.

I recommended her to a person looking for a Prostate massage in GR.

Currently I know of only two providers that are willing and know how to do it right. My original recommendation was to him. I recommended Ashley and Sweetie. I posted pics of Ashley because she's willing to do it nude and Sweetie is not. I used to recommend Layla she wasn't the prettiest or the best masseuse but she was the best prostate masseuse, since Pet left

If you know of other providers that know how to give a expert prostate massage, please let us know.

Please post rates and pics too, thank you.

UtrGuy
07-23-21, 11:55
Just because she offers a service doesn't mean she deserves a recommendation. I will concede that somehow you manage to get her not to be a miserable time so while your opinion is valid I still believe based on her history she shouldn't be recommended.


Agreed.

Most members on this board do not like her.

I recommended her to a person looking for a Prostate massage in GR.

Currently I know of only two providers that are willing and know how to do it right. My original recommendation was to him. I recommended Ashley and Sweetie. I posted pics of Ashley because she's willing to do it nude and Sweetie is not. I used to recommend Layla she wasn't the prettiest or the best masseuse but she was the best prostate masseuse, since Pet left

If you know of other providers that know how to give a expert prostate massage, please let us know.

Please post rates and pics too, thank you.

Pete3854
07-23-21, 13:01
Just because she offers a service doesn't mean she deserves a recommendation. I will concede that somehow you manage to get her not to be a miserable time so while your opinion is valid I still believe based on her history she shouldn't be recommended.I used to be on her * for a bit. I loved when she would video her blindflolded customers and her using toys up their ass and giving them prostate massages. She actually gets off on it I believe. She even has a few on there of customers not blindfolded, but you can tell that the phone she uses sits in the background. These customers probably have no idea that they are being taped.

Benz1
07-23-21, 13:31
Dam.

I was hoping someone had a new recommendation of a provider that knows how to give an expert prostate massage.

I've had a few try and told them don't bother. They have to know what the Fuck they are doing.

Let me know if you find any.

Detroit Brian
07-23-21, 13:58
Dam.

I was hoping someone had a new recommendation of a provider that knows how to give an expert prostate massage.

I've had a few try and told them don't bother. They have to know what the Fuck they are doing.

Let me know if you find any.I just remembered that I got this from Sweet Megan a couple of years back.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/massage-by-sweet-meganhere-unt/910514140937

Can't remember how much I paid, but I think around 100 or 120. And I'm not sure how expert she is at it, but she isn't afraid to go deep in your ass. She's older, and definitely not a 10, but she is nice, and you can eat her hairy pussy as much as you want.

Be careful out there.

Benz1
07-23-21, 14:16
she isn't afraid to go deep in your ass. you can eat her hairy pussy as much as you want.
.I'm afraid to have her go deep in my ass. That's not what's it's about. Find the prostate and expertly massage it. Then match the rhythm with BJ stroke and the prostate. This is not easy to do, takes time and practice. Most of us have never experienced it done right. Pet was not pretty but I couldn't help returning for more BJ and prostate play. She offered. While giving me a BJ said can I play down here? Sure, I had no idea what to expect. She was perfect. She wasn't a looker.
The back of their heads all look the same anyway.

I've had to train a few to do it right. Layla, Kyra and Ashley got it perfect. Ashley is the only one left of the three.

I'll pass on flossing with Megan's hairy pussy too.

Looking for expert prostrate massage.

Thanks for the info.

Tommey
07-23-21, 18:39
I used to be on her * for a bit. I loved when she would video her blindflolded customers and her using toys up their ass and giving them prostate massages. She actually gets off on it I believe. She even has a few on there of customers not blindfolded, but you can tell that the phone she uses sits in the background. These customers probably have no idea that they are being taped.Wait, to be sure, are you saying that Winter is known to video record her customers during intimate sessions involving nudity and penetration? And further she is suspected to be doing some of this without the customer's knowledge?

If so, I suppose the poor service, bad attitude, and high prices may not be the only reasons to avoid her.

Benz1
07-23-21, 20:14
Who (what fool?) would ever let a provider blind fold them.

Pete3854
07-23-21, 20:16
Wait, to be sure, are you saying that Winter is known to video record her customers during intimate sessions involving nudity and penetration? And further she is suspected to be doing some of this without the customer's knowledge?

If so, I suppose the poor service, bad attitude, and high prices may not be the only reasons to avoid her.She posts such things on her OF account.

DjBiker
07-23-21, 21:21
I'm afraid to have her go deep in my ass. That's not what's it's about. Find the prostate and expertly massage it. Then match the rhythm with BJ stroke and the prostate. This is not easy to do, takes time and practice. Most of us have never experienced it done right. Pet was not pretty but I couldn't help returning for more BJ and prostate play. She offered. While giving me a BJ said can I play down here? Sure, I had no idea what to expect. She was perfect. She wasn't a looker.
The back of their heads all look the same anyway.

I've had to train a few to do it right. Layla, Kyra and Ashley got it perfect. Ashley is the only one left of the three.

I'll pass on flossing with Megan's hairy pussy too.

Looking for expert prostrate massage.

Thanks for the info.So, you take it in the ass AND reward her with choclate, sure its not fudge?

Wth lmao.

MaxMagnums
07-24-21, 14:58
Any recomendations for an attractive provider for massage with French?

SteveLee99
07-24-21, 15:38
Stopped by this week and overheard the girls talking. The new place on 36th is up and running. All you have to do is ask.Although this is technically true, it's not even close to being ready for prime time. Very spartan provisions at the moment and remodeling of the actual location (next door) has not even begun as of this date. Great plans are in the works, but I wouldn't hold your breath. For now, I believe you would prefer the downtown location and it may be only Brit available at the 36th St. , although I'm not positive about that. I've been both places, and the downtown location is nicely appointed, although can be noisy depending on street noise (read sirens). I'd wait on 36th. St. If I were you.

Met Brit a few days ago at the 36th St. Location and got this info directly from her. She is an awesome woman with top notch service and I will definitely repeat but will ask if we can meet downtown. PM me if you want more details.

Electronman
07-24-21, 16:02
Haven't seen them or got a description but there are 2 news girls that just started this week at Panacea, Lena and Kelly. Anybody have any reports yet? I tend to like the more petite ones.I haven't seen Lena or Kelly but Panacea does have a pretty good turn over of talent.

On the petite side, I can recommend Lexie and Eve.

I was not impressed with the service / pricing for Kimmy or Ariana.

I would love to hear other recommendations (and ones to avoid) at Panacea, especially for the recent additions to their lineup of talent.

Mike Yepthatsm
07-24-21, 18:17
If she's recording costumers without their knowledge then posting it on her OF page that's beyond fucked up.


I used to be on her * for a bit. I loved when she would video her blindflolded customers and her using toys up their ass and giving them prostate massages. She actually gets off on it I believe. She even has a few on there of customers not blindfolded, but you can tell that the phone she uses sits in the background. These customers probably have no idea that they are being taped.

Member #6481
07-24-21, 18:50
If she's recording costumers without their knowledge then posting it on her OF page that's beyond fucked up.Naive question. What is OF?

Mystry12
07-24-21, 20:00
Naive question. What is OF?Only Fans. A Pay site.

ChicagoSouth
07-25-21, 09:16
Naive question. What is OF?Yes what is OF.

Seeking Fun 99
07-25-21, 12:52
Does anyone know which ladies work at the Wyoming location? Is it all of them or just a few? The website https://bodyworkllc.mysalononline.co. A-73 ad1 b164698 doesn't indicate who and / or when.

Sparty On 1234
07-25-21, 18:51
Does anyone know which ladies work at the Wyoming location? Is it all of them or just a few? The website https://bodyworkllc.mysalononline.co. A-73 ad1 b164698 doesn't indicate who and / or when.I think only Brit works at the Wyoming location. The rest are downtown I believe?

Gene2
07-25-21, 20:12
Does anyone know which ladies work at the Wyoming location? Is it all of them or just a few? The website https://bodyworkllc.mysalononline.co. A-73 ad1 b164698 doesn't indicate who and / or when.They all work out of the downtown site. As has been clarified earlier, Brit may have you at the other location, but only if she knows you. And if it's convenient. It's not ready for prime time yet. So any service you book will be at the downtown location.

Moonglow913
07-26-21, 07:19
Only Fans. A Pay site.Are you saying Ashley has an Only Fans account and is posting videos of her sessions? I believe without the guy's consent that would be illegal, exposing both her and the site to liability.

ATrain66
07-26-21, 09:04
I only ask because she's been gone for quite sometime now or way utr.

Also this ad is from March and I cannot find much in Google on her lately. Thanks

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/private-location-book-appointm/066173145463


Thanks Clark.

ATrain66
07-26-21, 10:24
Anyone been to Hawaii Health Spa mid state lately?

Also for those that travel to Detroit or Cleveland. I highly recommend Melon on Secor in Toledo. Shower table, dry heat saunas, and always the best talent with nearly wide open menus.

Shawtren
07-26-21, 10:27
Does anyone know which ladies work at the Wyoming location? Is it all of them or just a few? The website https://bodyworkllc.mysalononline.co. A-73 ad1 b164698 doesn't indicate who and / or when.The link address is entered incorrectly. It should be (. Com) not a (. Co) and it may come up as a virus threat.

SParty123
07-26-21, 17:34
I have my first ever appointment scheduled with Berlin this week. I received a confirmation email and expected to see the address on there, but it wasn't listed. On their website she no longer has a phone number listed. I sent an email to the address listed on their site, but haven't heard anything back yet. I was thinking about sending Brit a text, but I would rather not do that if possible. Can someone tell me where this is at and any tips on what to do once I arrive? Any info is appreciated. If publishing the location is a big deal, a PM is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Love The Lips
07-26-21, 19:18
Ashley fee for massage plus fetish (prostate HJ massage) fully nude appointment is 150 hhr. Includes door fee

The pic is real and recent, I snapped it Tuesday while giving her a massage.Ashley's pics remind me a bit of Miley Cyrus.

Moonglow913
07-27-21, 06:15
Anyone been to Hawaii Health Spa mid state lately?

Also for those that travel to Detroit or Cleveland. I highly recommend Melon on Secor in Toledo. Shower table, dry heat saunas, and always the best talent with nearly wide open menus.This place has really gone down hill. I believe it has been around for like 30 years, which says a lot for a AMP. But unless they start bringing in some better talent could be tough. Work has taken me by Hawaii several times a week at different times, can't remember last time I even saw a car in its lot.

GMacMan
07-27-21, 07:52
Just wantetd to give a quick update on Sweetie. There was a comment that ther was smoke detected at her place. I went for a visit to check out what is going on. I can report that on my visit, I did not smell any hint of smoke upon entering or at any time during the visit, which is how I like it since smoke (candels or cigarette) will make my nose run or plug up faster than you can say "Achoo". This post is for other guys like me that are sensitive to smokers (I will actually walk away from a visit if I smell smoke as I go in.) I'm satisfied things are normal and that whatever was smelled in the other report was a temporary anomaly.

Be safe and be well.

Love The Lips
07-27-21, 09:15
Damn, once again Lexi is gone from Panacea. Not sure if she left or was let go. On a better note, Natasha is back but just on Fridays. There are about 5 or 6 new girls at Panacea now but I haven't had a chance to try them yet. Kelly is back which I believe she was there a couple years ago and also may have worked at Serenity. Any insight to these new ladies would be appreciated.

Benz1
07-27-21, 13:30
Ashley's pics remind me a bit of Miley Cyrus.I have a lot more pics of Ashley, she was in a fantastic mood and loved the photo shoot.

The way to a woman's pussy is through Sweetlands milk chocolate bark, always puts them in a great mood.

Mongerlian
07-27-21, 15:50
I have a lot more pics of Ashley, she was in a fantastic mood and loved the photo shoot.

The way to a woman's pussy is through Sweetlands milk chocolate bark, always puts them in a great mood.I have nothing but respect for your contributions Benz, and appreciate all you've done for the community. In this case, I have to say that if making a minimum of two-three bucks a minute for what amounts to getting felt up and a handy isn't enough to put a provider in a great mood, then I'll go with a provider who has a decent attitude. I've seen Ashley twice. Once on purpose and once by accident after she changed her hair color and I mistook her for someone else. The first time she was on her phone the whole time, and spent 10 minutes absently rubbing my ankle while dicking around on it, then wanted a ridiculous amount for topless. The second time she at least took her shirt off, no touching of course. I showed complete respect both times. If you've unlocked the gate with a golden key, hey, I applaud you. But if I'm going to bring additional gifts to a provider, it sure as hell isn't going to be to one who has been a total ***** and wasted my time and money. I'm paying for a provider's time and companionship. Yes, I expect her to treat me decently if I'm treating her kindly, which I always do.

Tommey
07-27-21, 19:50
I have nothing but respect for your contributions Benz, and appreciate all you've done for the community. In this case, I have to say that if making a minimum of two-three bucks a minute for what amounts to getting felt up and a handy isn't enough to put a provider in a great mood, then I'll go with a provider who has a decent attitude. I've seen Ashley twice. Once on purpose and once by accident after she changed her hair color and I mistook her for someone else. The first time she was on her phone the whole time, and spent 10 minutes absently rubbing my ankle while dicking around on it, then wanted a ridiculous amount for topless. The second time she at least took her shirt off, no touching of course. I showed complete respect both times. If you've unlocked the gate with a golden key, hey, I applaud you. But if I'm going to bring additional gifts to a provider, it sure as hell isn't going to be to one who has been a total ***** and wasted my time and money. I'm paying for a provider's time and companionship. Yes, I expect her to treat me decently if I'm treating her kindly, which I always do.I got to be honest, but the video recording of customers without their knowledge during session, while nude and being manipulated and anally penetrated, then selling those videos online is much more of a concern than her poor service and bad attitude. I get it, some are into that. But I suspect many are not. Buyer beware with this one, for a multitude of reasons.

Lunchbox Hero
07-28-21, 09:15
Spent a fantastic hour with Madison on Tuesday morning. Once again, I have nothing but good things to say about Madison and the Bodyworks set up / business model. Massage was very good, teasing was exceptional and the conversation was intelligent and flirtatious. She absolutely knows how to make you comfortable and is 100 percent focused on your enjoyment of time spent with her. I will repeat with her as often as work brings me to the area. Highly recommend. Enjoy fellas.

Benz1
07-28-21, 09:34
I got to be honest, but the video recording of customers without their knowledge during session, while nude and being manipulated and anally penetrated, then selling those videos online is much more of a concern than her poor service and bad attitude. I get it, some are into that. But I suspect many are not. Buyer beware with this one, for a multitude of reasons.I'm still confused why anyone would let a provider blindfold them.

I asked her about the videos. She told me she offers half off her fee to allow the video. She's never offered it to me because she knows I'm not into that shit. No need for a Dom girl when you have a wife at home.

Permission to use / sell videos is something we will never be able to confirm because the persons identity isn't revealed. Nobody to ask if they gave permission in exchange for half off Dom sessions. Maybe That's why they put the blindfold on, to hide their identity.

LandRover20
07-28-21, 09:39
Just wantetd to give a quick update on Sweetie. There was a comment that ther was smoke detected at her place. I went for a visit to check out what is going on. I can report that on my visit, I did not smell any hint of smoke upon entering or at any time during the visit, which is how I like it since smoke (candels or cigarette) will make my nose run or plug up faster than you can say "Achoo". This post is for other guys like me that are sensitive to smokers (I will actually walk away from a visit if I smell smoke as I go in.) I'm satisfied things are normal and that whatever was smelled in the other report was a temporary anomaly.

Be safe and be well.I can also say that I'm extremely sensitive to smoke and have never detected it at her place.

Shawtren
07-28-21, 10:02
I'm still confused why anyone would let a provider blindfold them.

I asked her about the videos. She told me she offers half off her fee to allow the video. She's never offered it to me because she knows I'm not into that shit. No need for a Dom girl when you have a wife at home.

Permission to use / sell videos is something we will never be able to confirm because the persons identity isn't revealed. Nobody to ask if they gave permission in exchange for half off Dom sessions. Maybe That's why they put the blindfold on, to hide their identity.Two things scare me about this.

First is the fact that VERY few providers have the sense to control storage and dispersal of such things. These videos can get into the wrong hands and perpetuate all over the place. Or worse yet into Law Enforcement hands. Not that it is illegal to be in a video, but it would certainly be uncomfortable with all the potential pressure and questioning. I don't know about you, but I have a REAL LIFE that I try to maintain without that sort of problem.

Secondly, the guys may not factor in some of the unique identifiable features of themselves such as tattoos scars and the like. Hard to deny when it's YOUR tattoo on the screen there. I seriously doubt she will take the time to blur specific features on the guys.

So, is the discount worth it? Just food for thought.

Be safe guys!!

-Shaw.

Blackfire
07-28-21, 10:11
Two things scare me about this.

So, is the discount worth it? Just food for thought.

Be safe guys!!

-Shaw.Is there even a discount? Just because she apparently told Benz she offers a half off discount to allow the video. Doesn't make it true. Like Benz said there is no way to verify whether they allowed permission or not to use / post the videos, there is also no way to verify that she offered half off discount at all! Now I know either Benz may say she offered it to him or some obscure poster will come up out of the woodwork to say she offered it to him (insert eye roll), her credibility is seriously in doubt with pretty much everyone on this board except one poster.

Tommey
07-28-21, 11:09
Is there even a discount? Just because she apparently told Benz she offers a half off discount to allow the video. Doesn't make it true. Like Benz said there is no way to verify whether they allowed permission or not to use / post the videos, there is also no way to verify that she offered half off discount at all! Now I know either Benz may say she offered it to him or some obscure poster will come up out of the woodwork to say she offered it to him (insert eye roll), her credibility is seriously in doubt with pretty much everyone on this board except one poster.I agree with Black and Shaw. But to protect the community, who may months from now run a search to learn about Ashley Winter, it may be a good idea to include her name in all posts highlighting this dangerous practice.

Praetorian1981
07-28-21, 11:16
Two things scare me about this.

First is the fact that VERY few providers have the sense to control storage and dispersal of such things. These videos can get into the wrong hands and perpetuate all over the place. Or worse yet into Law Enforcement hands. Not that it is illegal to be in a video, but it would certainly be uncomfortable with all the potential pressure and questioning. I don't know about you, but I have a REAL LIFE that I try to maintain without that sort of problem.

Secondly, the guys may not factor in some of the unique identifiable features of themselves such as tattoos scars and the like. Hard to deny when it's YOUR tattoo on the screen there. I seriously doubt she will take the time to blur specific features on the guys.

So, is the discount worth it? Just food for thought.

Be safe guys!!

-Shaw.One thing to keep in mind. Prostitution is illegal. Making a porn video is not.

Moonglow913
07-28-21, 12:39
One thing to keep in mind. Prostitution is illegal. Making a porn video is not.Filming it without one of the parties consent is illegal too. As anyone confirmed this? Benz?

Benz1
07-28-21, 13:09
I agree with everyone.

Never let a provider blindfold you or takes pics / videos.

NoseJelly
07-28-21, 18:01
Filming it without one of the parties consent is illegal too. As anyone confirmed this? Benz?Only Fans with nudity / sex is subject to 18 USC 2257 like all Adult Productions. If she has no records she could be in deep shit regardless of the Monger's knowledge. If you're worried, ask her to see the paperwork!

White300
07-28-21, 19:48
Only Fans with nudity / sex is subject to 18 USC 2257 like all Adult Productions. If she has no records she could be in deep shit regardless of the Monger's knowledge. If you're worried, ask her to see the paperwork!Or just go somewhere else?

ChicagoSouth
07-28-21, 20:09
I agree with everyone.

Never let a provider blindfold you or takes pics / videos.Benz is 100% right.

OcalaMale67
07-28-21, 20:28
Any places here give table showers? I love a good wash.

NoseJelly
07-28-21, 21:41
Or just go somewhere else?That might be too much common sense for some Mongers!

Benz1
07-29-21, 02:19
Filming it without one of the parties consent is illegal too. As anyone confirmed this? Benz?I've heard from her that she offers 50% off her Dom rates and gets consent to film Butt I'm guessing nobody is using their real name on a consent form, if there ever was one.

I'm guessing the purpose of the blindfold is to provide anonymity for the monger getting his 50% off his session.

Shawtren brought up a very good point, there could always be identifiable marks.

Some people have fetishes and like to live dangerously.

She has never asked me to wear a blindfold and I see her often. My sessions with Ashley usually start with a big smile and hug then she strips, jumps on the table and I begin her massage then she massages me, any way I like. Her phone is always on the table face down. She never plays with her phone, I can see her all the time in the room. I'm never face down for our session, she's usually on the table with me.

I will repeat.

This is the Ashley I usually see.

Cruzer10
07-30-21, 12:25
I see this post quite often also. Any info? Looks pretty enticing.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/your-favorite-treat/584219542526

ATrain66
07-30-21, 12:57
This conversation is getting old. Do what you want, know the risks, and always take precautions.

Nothing more to see here. The horse has been beaten "to death".


I agree with everyone.

Never let a provider blindfold you or takes pics / videos.

Shawtren
07-30-21, 14:38
This conversation is getting old. Do what you want, know the risks, and always take precautions.

Nothing more to see here. The horse has been beaten "to death".I understand that it can be frustrating to read the same things over and over, but I can vouch for the fact that every now and again, little nuggets of wisdom slip in. We may think we have heard it all, but we are fools to believe it.

Much like getting the 40th review of a provider. You can easily say that someone is beating a dead horse talking about a provider we have all heard about over and over, yet these providers do change over time. They get better, or worse, and I for one want to know all about it in an ongoing way. Or perhaps I should say, "You know all the risks, so no need for me to mention that she has been in kahoots with LEO. ".

But hey just my two cents.

-Shaw.

Benz1
07-30-21, 19:24
I understand that it can be frustrating to read the same things over and over, but I can vouch for the fact that every now and again, little nuggets of wisdom slip in. We may think we have heard it all, but we are fools to believe it.

Much like getting the 40th review of a provider. You can easily say that someone is beating a dead horse talking about a provider we have all heard about over and over, yet these providers do change over time. They get better, or worse, and I for one want to know all about it in an ongoing way. Or perhaps I should say, "You know all the risks, so no need for me to mention that she has been in kahoots with LEO. ".

But hey just my two cents.

-Shaw.Shawtren is right.

Any provider can turn bad any day. We need updates that's she's still ok or has gone off the deep end.

BobSled45
07-31-21, 01:22
Yooo, first time poster, I've enjoyed reading through the forums. I've been learning a bunch but still have some questions.

The AMPs I've been to charge 60 for 1 hr. What do you usually leave for tip after he? I've got the he for 20. But I've done 40 & 60 before too.

Are there any places where the girls get comfortable without you asking?

Has anyone gotten he at magic asian massage on 28th st? Its a White House. I've been twice no luck. Girls name is lina. Sometimes works at 200 three burton.

There are three AMPs on the corner of breton and 28th. All generic names like relax massage, asian massage, etc. They are all kitty corner to TuiNa. Any reviews?

I like to take videos / pictures. Anyone have a place where they share them?

Thanks so much in advance. Gl out there.

PurpMan61
07-31-21, 11:42
I saw her and her friend a weeks back. Did a 4 hand for an hour for 300. They didn't short any time but for the most part lacked any type of getting comfortable. One got down to her panties took bra off and the other left all clothes on but let you feel over them. Nice bodies and friendly but pretty generic finish. I have pictures of both her and her friend if anyone wants to see them.


I see this post quite often also. Any info? Looks pretty enticing.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/your-favorite-treat/584219542526

Onthehunt77
08-01-21, 17:14
Was bored on a Sunday and feeling the urge, and dreamed I went for a drive out to Wonder. I was hoping for Christy based on some other reviews but got Anita (I think) instead. Mid to late 30's Latina with some great curves, not a looker by any means but not repulsive either. . 4 for the door, and once in the room she asked if I was into "tipping and stuff". I said yes and she replied with "oh good, I didn't want to offend" Out came a pair of beautiful DD's and and she did some light but pleasant back massage using both hands and her other assets for maybe 10 minutes. Good work around junior before the flip, full roaming with FIV allowed and she was very into it. Once the flip started she started a fantastic combo HJ / BBBJ, though 95% hand. Even though it wasn't really a BJ, she spent quite a bit of time giving oral attention to the berries will working the stick.

Probably 20 mins tops, but very satisfactory. Would repeat most likely if in the area. Tipped. 6 and think it was well worth it, though probably not worth the drive from Lansing.

MarkWa
08-02-21, 09:00
Have not read any reports on this one and thought I would give her a call. Very easy setup and nice apartment complex near downtown. Opened the door and is definitely not the girl in the pictures but was very cute and a spinner about 23-26 years old so I went in. Apartment was nice but the weird part is that the massage table was located right in the entry way of apartment. Got comfortable and she gave an average massage but was very pleasant. On the flip the negotiation started which I am not a big fan of. Eventually got her completely comfortable and was allowed some basic roaming on a fantastic small ass and perky tits. Overall a decent experience but not sure I would do it again at the price level I paid. Little pricey for standard ending.

$80/40.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/black-goddess-belinda/123441710576

PurpMan61
08-02-21, 10:45
There's a post about Belinda who sounds very similar to this. The apartment was just south of downtown. Street parking is really all there is. The message table was in the entry way and you can't even allow the door to open all the way so you're stuck there tying to take off and put on your clothes. When I was there, she had a roommate so maybe Belinda and Sasha stay together? I don't know.

Communication was easy, location was easy to find however on a busier day parking could be a hassle. The apartment wasn't organized very well but worked. Sasha is cute, showed baby damage but doesn't bother me. On to the session, got comfortable, and she used light pressure the entire time. I asked her to use more pressure and to not be afraid to actually push down but didn't really change anything. On the flip, she was boring and unenthusiastic. She used one hand and the other to hold up her other hand. No talking, moaning anything to help with the mood. She took her boobs out by lifting up her shirt. That's it. Her roommate also was laughing and what not during the session which was kind of distracting. Elected to do the hhr for 50. Asked her how much she wanted for tip (just to see more of who she is) and she said "what do you got". So she got 40 for the tip. Should have been less honestly. When the session was done I asked if she was new and she said no, she's been in the game for a while now and also works at Pacific on 44th. If I would have known I wouldn't have scheduled. Will not repeat unless reviews on her improve drastically. BTW her headline says "best massage ever" which is false advertisement and far from.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/other/best-massage-ever-guaranteed-s/435784593691

TomTravis
08-02-21, 11:34
Panacea is a great place. I've been there six times now and have seen a different gal each time. All have been very pleasant and accommodating (to say the least). My most recent visits were with Eve and then Natalie. The gals have always been very pleasant, eager, easy to talk to, and know their jobs well. I am usually up front about what I want and all have been enthusiastic. I'm very pleased.

NewTurner
08-02-21, 14:31
Any reports on Blue? I only see the one missed venture when searching the forum.

Reikililly6
08-03-21, 02:01
Bro. Really? "Glorified HE"? What these ladies offer in class and sensuality is by far good enough for me. And way better than what's out there.I Wish More People On Here Thought Like This!.

Reikililly6
08-03-21, 02:49
Dreamt of lily. Decent hotel, personable, chatty, would've be happy with massage alone! It was good. No teasing, flip was standard HJ.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/book-lily-feel-like-a-new-you/445266495371I'm working on my chattiness LOL.

TigerEye2525
08-03-21, 12:24
I Wish More People On Here Thought Like This!.Well thank you. I appreciate that very much. And I agree!

FireStorm202
08-04-21, 17:58
I agree- it is better to look up and find 15 reviews and mentions than 2, I know this page saved my time and $ by providing plenty of useful info.

BobSled45
08-04-21, 22:21
Had a dream about relax massage Asian spa on 28th. There was an Asian woman mid 40's. 7/10 massage, flip was ehh. No roaming.

60/ hr 20 tips.

MilfMePlz
08-04-21, 23:19
Are there any advertisements / advice anybody can point me towards?

MarkWa
08-05-21, 09:15
Are there any advertisements / advice anybody can point me towards?When you go in ask who is available. Don't take the older Asian woman. After that you will be all set.

Shoots15
08-05-21, 11:36
Dam.

I was hoping someone had a new recommendation of a provider that knows how to give an expert prostate massage.

I've had a few try and told them don't bother. They have to know what the Fuck they are doing.

Let me know if you find any.You have to ask for it, and the Chinese lady is like 70!! Very good massage HJ with prostate massage. TNA massage on Plainfield.

FreeNomad
08-05-21, 11:46
Any one ever try sweet Megan, how's her massages.

AmpPerv
08-05-21, 12:38
You have to ask for it, and the Chinese lady is like 70!! Very good massage HJ with prostate massage. TNA massage on Plainfield.Well, damn! I used to see her several years ago. It was reported she did HEs so some of us went to her, saw her a few times. Her style is a firm massage, lots of pushing on the muscle groups, then rubbing. Nice woman, I never thought of a prostate massage when I saw her, you even had to request the HE to get it. She charged 75 bucks for an hour back then as she did mostly insurance-paid massages and these clients don't tip so she made up for that with a higher hourly rate. I am tempted to go back and try this, as I liked her. For the record, not to be picky, she is Korean. Does she use a glove or bare finger?

MichBritlion
08-05-21, 14:17
Any feedback on Angie (at Healthy Habits. Always been tempted as it's nearby but never pulled the trigger. If not then seems Brit or Nikki at Bodyworks.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/gentlemen-prefer-blondes/602703067682

UtrGuy
08-05-21, 18:51
Any feedback on Angie (at Healthy Habits. Always been tempted as it's nearby but never pulled the trigger. If not then seems Brit or Nikki at Bodyworks.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/gentlemen-prefer-blondes/602703067682Type in Angela in the search box, you'll see the answer is a hard no.

Mr Cruzer
08-05-21, 20:15
You have to ask for it, and the Chinese lady is like 70!! Very good massage HJ with prostate massage. TNA massage on Plainfield.MS was very robust; had to tell her a few times to lighten up, which she never did. Had to ask for a HE; was like a jackhammer, not all that relaxing. Never repeated. Nice lady, but has been around for a long time.

Mr Cruzer
08-05-21, 20:30
I'm afraid to have her go deep in my ass. That's not what's it's about. Find the prostate and expertly massage it. Then match the rhythm with BJ stroke and the prostate. This is not easy to do, takes time and practice. Most of us have never experienced it done right. Pet was not pretty but I couldn't help returning for more BJ and prostate play. She offered. While giving me a BJ said can I play down here? Sure, I had no idea what to expect. She was perfect. She wasn't a looker.
The back of their heads all look the same anyway.

I've had to train a few to do it right. Layla, Kyra and Ashley got it perfect. Ashley is the only one left of the three.

I'll pass on flossing with Megan's hairy pussy too.

Looking for expert prostrate massage.

Thanks for the info.Nobody mentioned Angel on 44th St. She does a great massage, decent figure with really nice boobs, sometimes gets comfortable depending on her mood. She advertises how great her prostate massages are. Never took her up on it, but she been doing it for some time, so she might be really good at it.

Mr Cruzer
08-05-21, 20:33
Any feedback on Angie (at Healthy Habits. Always been tempted as it's nearby but never pulled the trigger. If not then seems Brit or Nikki at Bodyworks.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/gentlemen-prefer-blondes/602703067682Don't waste your time or money on her.

Swcdt
08-05-21, 20:38
Nobody mentioned Angel on 44th St. She does a great massage, decent figure with really nice boobs, sometimes gets comfortable depending on her mood. She advertises how great her prostate massages are. Never took her up on it, but she been doing it for some time, so she might be really good at it.Angel is beautiful and fun. However, she gets kinda rough with the prostate massage. More of a Dom thing for her rather than a pleasure for you. But I really appreciate her Dominant alter ego. Treat her right and you'll get a chance to meet mistress mercedes.

WayneJWorld
08-05-21, 22:03
Any feedback on Angie (at Healthy Habits. Always been tempted as it's nearby but never pulled the trigger. If not then seems Brit or Nikki at Bodyworks.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/gentlemen-prefer-blondes/602703067682I always was told if you can't say something nice don't say anything so here's my review. She has pretty eyes. If that is what your looking for great, if not learn how to look up reviews.

CJ1976
08-06-21, 07:29
Been out of the hobby a long time. Passing through GR on business. I've RTFF but I'd like your opinion on which place you would choose if you could only go once. Panacea, Bodyworks, or Wonder? Thank you, I appreciate it.

CJ.

Swcdt
08-06-21, 09:33
Been out of the hobby a long time. Passing through GR on business. I've RTFF but I'd like your opinion on which place you would choose if you could only go once. Panacea, Bodyworks, or Wonder? Thank you, I appreciate it.

CJ.If you can only go 1 time, I say bodyworks. Panacea would be 2nd choice. But if you don't need a really good looker, wonder is ok.

Sandy51
08-06-21, 10:17
I went to Healing Hands the other day and saw Su / Sue (she is the only person I have seen working there). As always decent massage. I enjoyed a HE with prostrate massage on the flip. She is the only person that I have seen that does this. I know there are others, I just have not seen them yet. All I can say, is if a person has not partook, it's a very interesting addition to the standard HE. For me, totally different ending. She had me bucking like a pony. Hhr was. 40, gave. 40 tip. I have stated before, to me, she has made a pretty open menu available. Not a 20 something looker. Decent for her age I would say. Good for me. (She understands spoken English very well and totally gets sexual innuendo.) Enjoy, Sandy.

ATrain66
08-06-21, 12:11
Whatever happened with her previous LEO posting?


I went to Healing Hands the other day and saw Su / Sue (she is the only person I have seen working there). As always decent massage. I enjoyed a HE with prostrate massage on the flip. She is the only person that I have seen that does this. I know there are others, I just have not seen them yet. All I can say, is if a person has not partook, it's a very interesting addition to the standard HE. For me, totally different ending. She had me bucking like a pony. Hhr was. 40, gave. 40 tip. I have stated before, to me, she has made a pretty open menu available. Not a 20 something looker. Decent for her age I would say. Good for me. (She understands spoken English very well and totally gets sexual innuendo.) Enjoy, Sandy.

ATrain66
08-06-21, 12:22
Search and you will easily understand.


Don't waste your time or money on her.

Sandy51
08-06-21, 13:05
Whatever happened with her previous LEO posting?ATrain, I am not sure what asking exactly. I do believe that she was stung before. The first time I saw her she had told me that I looked like LE due to my work attire. I have had no issues with LE, nor any issues or shortages from her. I hope that answers your question. Feel free to PM if it helps. Sandy.

Wolf88
08-06-21, 13:08
Back in GR for a week. Late visit at relaxation Station on Byron center. Partook in a 4 hand massage. There was Training of a ew girl Trinity very.

Pretty AA. 2 bills for the 4 hand. Since it was Training I got more millage then usual. They hit all the right spots, hot stone, 2 girl HJ lots of attention to the boys. Would probably go ag.

Again not4 hand though.

Shoots15
08-06-21, 13:32
Well, damn! I used to see her several years ago. It was reported she did HEs so some of us went to her, saw her a few times. Her style is a firm massage, lots of pushing on the muscle groups, then rubbing. Nice woman, I never thought of a prostate massage when I saw her, you even had to request the HE to get it. She charged 75 bucks for an hour back then as she did mostly insurance-paid massages and these clients don't tip so she made up for that with a higher hourly rate. I am tempted to go back and try this, as I liked her. For the record, not to be picky, she is Korean. Does she use a glove or bare finger?She wears a glove.

GRSlinger11
08-06-21, 17:36
Originally called Tunia off Breton and 28th, said they were busy most of the day and said their other location had open availability, and they sent me to the place next to Marges donuts. Got a 20's-30's Asian woman. Pretty cute, wasn't able to understand her name. By far the best massage I've gotten at an AMP, I've been here once with no HE. Lots of teasing and it ended up being a DIY. She did help out, damage was 60/20. Would have been more of it wasn't DIY.

Wolf88
08-07-21, 21:52
Originally called Tunia off Breton and 28th, said they were busy most of the day and said their other location had open availability, and they sent me to the place next to Marges donuts. Got a 20's-30's Asian woman. Pretty cute, wasn't able to understand her name. By far the best massage I've gotten at an AMP, I've been here once with no HE. Lots of teasing and it ended up being a DIY. She did help out, damage was 60/20. Would have been more of it wasn't DIY.I go there when I really need a good rub down. I have only gotten a little breast action before. Mainly from a girl I saw many times.

It's is a great message. I had bad pain and they worked it out.

I used to hit that place about 4 times a week. 60 plus 20 tip.

Shawtren
08-09-21, 11:30
Any feedback on Angie (at Healthy Habits. Always been tempted as it's nearby but never pulled the trigger. If not then seems Brit or Nikki at Bodyworks.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/gentlemen-prefer-blondes/602703067682I'm no marketing genius, but it sure seems to me that you would WANT people to know your name if you are posting pictures and contact info. I get frustrated when its not on a post for STG or similar. Then if you call their number, they say hello, and you can ask for "Violet" or Jessica". Instead you call and you say "Hey I'm calling about the full body massage with a happy ending that you advertised. " only to find out you dialed the wrong number.

-Shaw.

ATrain66
08-09-21, 12:30
I just remembered a monger stating cars in the parking lot and then nothing was said afterwards. I have visited the 6 times but stopped on the last LE post with cars in the parking lot.


ATrain, I am not sure what asking exactly. I do believe that she was stung before. The first time I saw her she had told me that I looked like LE due to my work attire. I have had no issues with LE, nor any issues or shortages from her. I hope that answers your question. Feel free to PM if it helps. Sandy.

Love The Lips
08-09-21, 23:56
Lexi, the fun petite little hottie is back at Panacea! Hopefully she's back for good now.

LlMoe24
08-10-21, 08:42
Saw Madison at Bodywork (One of Brit's girls) last week.

She's one of the newer girls but already has great hands and gives a very firm yet relaxing massage. She is quite good at getting all your muscles relaxed and works you head to toe. She is also very sensual and loves to tease. Her hands roam and tease and tempt long before you get the the flip. On the flip she doesn't just launch into ending either but keeps teasing making you want it so much more. Your hands are free to touch anywhere (except no FIV), and your lips are welcome on most of her body too. The finish was absolutely explosive after she got me all worked up.

Will definitely be back to see her.

Appt was 45 min for $150.

EDIT: Forgot to include a link to her ad.

https://tryst.link/massage/new-hottie

Gatorade1972
08-10-21, 21:50
Lexi, the fun petite little hottie is back at Panacea! Hopefully she's back for good now.Yes she is back. Saw her tonight. Good as always.

Benz1
08-11-21, 08:15
Ashley winter is no longer taking appointments at Serenity.

Hayley has a soft heart butt a very firm ass. She ousted Ashley and changed the locks.

Hayley's heart needs to get as hard as her ass.

I'll miss her , looks like I'm the only one. Onward to find another expert prostate massage on the North side of town.

PurpMan61
08-11-21, 12:36
Ashley winter is no longer taking appointments at Serenity.

Hayley has a soft heart butt a very firm ass. She ousted Ashley and changed the locks.

Hayley's heart needs to get as hard as her ass.

I'll miss her , looks like I'm the only one. Onward to find another expert prostate massage on the North side of town.I've been clicking on Serenity's ads but none of them have phone numbers to call or text. Used to go there all the time years ago but haven't been since I can't find any way to get a hold of them.

Love The Lips
08-11-21, 16:01
Ashley winter is no longer taking appointments at Serenity.

Hayley has a soft heart butt a very firm ass. She ousted Ashley and changed the locks.

Hayley's heart needs to get as hard as her ass.

I'll miss her , looks like I'm the only one. Onward to find another expert prostate massage on the North side of town.I know that Panacea offers prostate massage but not sure who to recommend as I haven't had it.

BoatGuy1
08-11-21, 19:51
What happened with Ashley? Just complaints or something else? Too bad, she fulfilled the miley fantasy.


Ashley winter is no longer taking appointments at Serenity.

Hayley has a soft heart butt a very firm ass. She ousted Ashley and changed the locks.

Hayley's heart needs to get as hard as her ass.

I'll miss her , looks like I'm the only one. Onward to find another expert prostate massage on the North side of town.

So Curious
08-11-21, 22:11
What happened with Ashley? Just complaints or something else? Too bad, she fulfilled the miley fantasy.She's at Royal now. Just saw her tonight.

Electronman
08-12-21, 02:00
I've been clicking on Serenity's ads but none of them have phone numbers to call or text. Used to go there all the time years ago but haven't been since I can't find any way to get a hold of them.No one ever answers the phone number that I have. Very challenging to know who is working and how to schedule an appointment.

LlMoe24
08-12-21, 10:01
Thanks for posting the website address of Bodyworks. Brit continues to set the standard for MPs. That starts with the class set up they have (location, including the new downtown one. Class appearance inside, etc.), and of course, the gals, all of whom seem to be beautiful and sexy, with great personalities. In the last few months I have seen Alex, Berlin, Madison, Alissa. And now Jessica is back! All are amazing and worth visiting (you simply can't go wrong), with Alissa and Jessica standing out in my experience. My first time downtown I was able to find a parking spot on a side street, though I had to walk a little bit. The 2nd time due to rain, I chose the parking garage just around the corner to the north (Weston) - cost: $3. 00 - a bargain! If you are looking for a high class, good massage, with plenty of fun (non-FS, remember), this is the place! Here's Jessica's ad this weekend: https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/sensual-relaxation-session-mis/179200129242.I saw Jessica (Jaya) is no longer on Brit's booking site but she is advertising on STG today. Has anyone seen her outside of booking through Brit? Is her menu any different from what she offers previously?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/sensual-relaxation-session-mis/463250364731

WantsToEat
08-12-21, 11:00
I tried searching Lauren, but not sure what I am seeing is on the correct Lauren.

Anyone have any feedback on Lauren in the ad below?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/237911109425

If not, I may TOFTT.

Reports to come on Linda and Angie.

Pete3854
08-12-21, 11:16
I tried searching Lauren, but not sure what I am seeing is on the correct Lauren.

Anyone have any feedback on Lauren in the ad below?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/237911109425

If not, I may TOFTT.

Reports to come on Linda and Angie.Lauren is a great appointment. I have seen her a couple of times, but she is extremely difficult to schedule with.

LlMoe24
08-12-21, 11:30
I tried searching Lauren, but not sure what I am seeing is on the correct Lauren.

Anyone have any feedback on Lauren in the ad below?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/237911109425

If not, I may TOFTT.

Reports to come on Linda and Angie.I've seen her. Not sure why I never did a review, but I didn't.

The massage is rushed and mediocre. The ending is over priced and nothing special.

Blackfire
08-12-21, 11:42
I saw Jessica (Jaya) is no longer on Brit's booking site but she is advertising on STG today. Has anyone seen her outside of booking through Brit? Is her menu any different from what she offers previously?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/sensual-relaxation-session-mis/463250364731The ad sure looks like a body works ad. Same inflated prices, same "no full service" message and location downtown. Doesn't appear from that ad that there are any changes, maybe just an attempt to trick people to going to body works?

WaltK
08-12-21, 12:11
I tried searching Lauren, but not sure what I am seeing is on the correct Lauren.

Anyone have any feedback on Lauren in the ad below?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/237911109425

If not, I may TOFTT.

Reports to come on Linda and Angie.Lots of reports on Lauren, check the escort section. There have been some reports of communication issues / ghosting but overall I think most reviews are favorable; mine was. I couldn't care less about a provider's massage skills if the BBBJCFS is good.

BoatGuy1
08-12-21, 17:10
That is the correct Lauren. My experience was the opposite. I skip the massage and enjoyed myself for an hour. I think that is the route to go.

She was enthusiastic, willing to change positions at request and made sure I enjoyed myself completely. Love them large breasts and the dinning was great and she agreed and asked for a second round.

Key is to catch her. When she has an opening.

Good luck.


I've seen her. Not sure why I never did a review, but I didn't.

The massage is rushed and mediocre. The ending is over priced and nothing special.

Ibow1
08-12-21, 19:13
So after reading this forum for quite some time, I finally lined up an appt at an MP with a provider I've always kind of had the hots for. So yeah, this will be my very first time ever going to an MP and I was wondering what standard procedure is. Do I get totally nude and just drape the towel or do I just get down to underwear and see what happens.

Yeah. I know. Really stupid question but it's my first experience.

Blackfire
08-12-21, 20:23
So after reading this forum for quite some time, I finally lined up an appt at an MP with a provider I've always kind of had the hots for. So yeah, this will be my very first time ever going to an MP and I was wondering what standard procedure is. Do I get totally nude and just drape the towel or do I just get down to underwear and see what happens.

Yeah. I know. Really stupid question but it's my first experience.Get totally nude, leave the little towel on the table, do not drape with it. Face down on the table. She'll know what to do. When she gets close to the boys wiggle a little, when she gets close to your handset them lightly brush her. She'll know you are cool with whatever then and she'll take it from there. If extras aren't available usually they'll put the little towel you didn't cover with over you, in that case enjoy the massage and no need to tip much.

Ibow1
08-12-21, 20:52
Get totally nude, leave the little towel on the table, do not drape with it. Face down on the table. She'll know what to do. When she gets close to the boys wiggle a little, when she gets close to your handset them lightly brush her. She'll know you are cool with whatever then and she'll take it from there. If extras aren't available usually they'll put the little towel you didn't cover with over you, in that case enjoy the massage and no need to tip much.Thanks! That's helpful!

BoatGuy1
08-12-21, 21:34
You did or did not see Di at MBD In 2019? You post says this is your first but your history says otherwise. Just curious. Which MP did you choose and for what reason?


So after reading this forum for quite some time, I finally lined up an appt at an MP with a provider I've always kind of had the hots for. So yeah, this will be my very first time ever going to an MP and I was wondering what standard procedure is. Do I get totally nude and just drape the towel or do I just get down to underwear and see what happens.

Yeah. I know. Really stupid question but it's my first experience..

Crutches
08-13-21, 08:53
Need recommendation please:

I'll be in town for business on Aug 18-20, looking for two types of massage.

1) An excellent top notch massage with at least a happy ending massage skills must be 10/10. AMP or independent provider are both ok.

2) A Full Service massage provider, average massage skills are ok. AMP or independent provider are both ok.

Thanks in advance guys.

MelJaySim
08-13-21, 10:40
Haley at Pacific is not the Hayley at panacea. Seen her Wednesday. Very sweet girl and definitely has curves. Pics are 100% her, she does a amazing job to get you as her regular. She assured me girls there now are all great and they are trying their best to make Pacific great again. Can't say much about 44th location but at least cascade is trying.

MelJaySim
08-13-21, 11:01
Haley at Pacific is not the Hayley at panacea. Seen her Wednesday. Very sweet girl and definitely has curves. Pics are 100% her, she does a amazing job to get you as her regular. She assured me girls there now are all great and they are trying their best to make Pacific great again. Can't say much about 44th location but at least cascade is trying.Seeing Tori hopefully later. I'll keep you all posted.

Swcdt
08-13-21, 12:00
Need recommendation please:

I'll be in town for business on Aug 18-20, looking for two types of massage.

1) An excellent top notch massage with at least a happy ending massage skills must be 10/10. AMP or independent provider are both ok.

2) A Full Service massage provider, average massage skills are ok. AMP or independent provider are both ok.

Thanks in advance guys.#1) go see simply sweet (sweety) excellent massage skills with HJ, but nothing more. She advertises on STG and is easy to find.

#2) Serenity has girls that offer FS.

Kinger19
08-13-21, 13:01
Stopped by to see her today while in town for business. Very glad she's back! The girl just oozes sexiness, and every time I see her the experience gets better.

Would highly recommend for anybody who has not already visited!

Swcdt
08-13-21, 16:45
Had another great visit with Allison at Panacea. Before she came in the room she went outside for a smoke. While I was waiting in the room for her I got a surprise visit from Natalie, that was pretty cool LOL. When Allison came in she was nice and hot from being outside and I could smell the cigarette smoke on her. (I really like that scent on a woman) she allowed me to help her undress and I took my time enjoying the smells and feel of her nicely toned body. She's very playfull once you get to know her and I love seeing her smile when does some special things to me, haha. Can't wait to go back, but I might have to see Natalie next time, I know she's a fun girl too. All in for the hour. 6/ tip $.

Electronman
08-14-21, 03:14
I've had several enjoyable visits to Serenity, notably with Honda and Maria (not sure where she works now).

Over the past 4 months, I've called their phone number multiple times but never get an answer. Anyone have a hint on how to identify the girl's schedules and how to make an appointment?

BossHog429
08-14-21, 11:16
Good morning Gents.

I have looked but could not find any reviews for Delilah. Just wondering if anyone has seen her and if she is real?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/994613516350

Swcdt
08-14-21, 16:38
So, after hearing a couple of good things about the 28th street pacific massage parlor. I decided to give it a shot. Sarah was working the desk and she took me back to a room. The room was clean and not super dark like most places. When Sarah came back to the room she started with the massage. Better than average massage for a rub and tug parlor so that was nice. No teasing at all, and not much conversation, but it was quite relaxing. When she finished the massage she asked me if I wanted a Happy Ending, I said heck yes! She oiled up her hands and I asked if her top comes off. She excitedly said "yes, but you'll have to help me" so I happily agreed to assist, LOL. I got her down to just the panties. Nice, small titties. Some light roaming was aloud, but I didn't really try to get too aggressive. Standard HJ skills, it really was a Happy Ending. . 4 at the front, I tipped. 6. I would be happy to repeat with her, or maybe another girl there. Haley (BBW) looks like she would be fun. Maybe next time.

Swcdt
08-14-21, 17:11
Good morning Gents.

I have looked but could not find any reviews for Delilah. Just wondering if anyone has seen her and if she is real?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/994613516350She's real, and she's Amazing!! Enjoy, she's worth every penny!

BossHog429
08-14-21, 17:45
She's real, and she's Amazing!! Enjoy, she's worth every penny!Thanks Swcdt!

Those pics look too good to be true. But I'll definitely give her a shot and report back.

BassMaster1
08-14-21, 19:00
Good morning Gents.

I have looked but could not find any reviews for Delilah. Just wondering if anyone has seen her and if she is real?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/994613516350She is definitely real have seen her quite a few times most recently this week. Discreet downtown location. Enjoy!!

Member #6603
08-14-21, 19:10
Good morning Gents.

I have looked but could not find any reviews for Delilah. Just wondering if anyone has seen her and if she is real?

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/994613516350She is a very Beautiful and Wonderful Woman.

Cargo5
08-14-21, 23:37
Guys if you want great FS with reasonable price in GR downtown PM me.

BossHog429
08-15-21, 15:10
She is a very Beautiful and Wonderful Woman.Thanks for all the intel gents!

I cannot wait to see her. I'll report back once I do.

Tazz51
08-15-21, 17:17
Seen Sweet Megan a little while back she has her own private office she is a sweet girl gave a pretty good massage ended with a BBBJ. Will definitely repeat.

MelJaySim
08-16-21, 18:08
So, after hearing a couple of good things about the 28th street pacific massage parlor. I decided to give it a shot. Sarah was working the desk and she took me back to a room. The room was clean and not super dark like most places. When Sarah came back to the room she started with the massage. Better than average massage for a rub and tug parlor so that was nice. No teasing at all, and not much conversation, but it was quite relaxing. When she finished the massage she asked me if I wanted a Happy Ending, I said heck yes! She oiled up her hands and I asked if her top comes off. She excitedly said "yes, but you'll have to help me" so I happily agreed to assist, LOL. I got her down to just the panties. Nice, small titties. Some light roaming was aloud, but I didn't really try to get too aggressive. Standard HJ skills, it really was a Happy Ending. . 4 at the front, I tipped. 6. I would be happy to repeat with her, or maybe another girl there. Haley (BBW) looks like she would be fun. Maybe next time.Tori is great seen her Friday at Pacific on 28th. Great Nuru massage. Haley is fun I know LOL.

Member #6477
08-16-21, 19:05
Guys if you want great FS with reasonable price in GR downtown PM me.Everybody likes a bargain.

Snoww
08-16-21, 22:34
Seeing all the vouches to go see delilah, I am interested to see her as well, can anyone PM me what to expect? I tried to read the forums but I see she would like for people to not post their experience on the forums.

MackB
08-17-21, 18:40
Its been about a month since I've had a chance to see Brit or any of her gang. I looked today for their schedule and didn't see anything on STG from them. Are they keeping a lower profile these days and relying on their website to schedule?

Seminoles143
08-17-21, 21:55
Can anyone tell me what her name is and how the experience is? I never see anyone make reports on her, and she looks right up my alley!

Tazz51
08-17-21, 23:53
#1) go see simply sweet (sweety) excellent massage skills with HJ, but nothing more. She advertises on STG and is easy to find.

#2) Serenity has girls that offer FS.I have been looking for massage / for what Serenity? If I go in is it likely I will get a lady that offers that or certain ones?

Tommey
08-18-21, 10:16
Can anyone tell me what her name is and how the experience is? I never see anyone make reports on her, and she looks right up my alley!That is Hayley. She is quite attractive, in her pic, and in person. That is where the positives end.

I strongly urge you to avoid her. Not worth your time or money. She does not fit at Panacea. PM if you want more info.

If you do see her, limit your expense by going with a half hour, and be prepared to be disappointed.

BoatGuy1
08-18-21, 10:23
Not seeing new clients currently, contact via site or if you have number. If you have seen one you can get in to another with that verification.


Its been about a month since I've had a chance to see Brit or any of her gang. I looked today for their schedule and didn't see anything on STG from them. Are they keeping a lower profile these days and relying on their website to schedule?.

Tazz51
08-18-21, 11:56
#1) go see simply sweet (sweety) excellent massage skills with HJ, but nothing more. She advertises on STG and is easy to find.

#2) Serenity has girls that offer FS.Is it certain girls that offer FS or they all will? And what serenity? When I Google there was more than one. Thanks.

Gene2
08-18-21, 12:31
I've seen her. Not sure why I never did a review, but I didn't.

The massage is rushed and mediocre. The ending is over priced and nothing special.Hey man,

My experience with the Lauren noted in the following post is exactly the opposite of yours. And I think most posters here would agree with me.

Robov had reported there is another provider who goes by Lauren, but is located at Byron center and used to be at Pacific. Maybe that's who you saw. She was reported as having those issues.

The "real" Lauren here has not been mediocre and doesn't disappoint in my opinion. She works out of locations near airport.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lauren/422406699584

G2.

ApsGuy
08-18-21, 15:22
Seeing all the vouches to go see delilah, I am interested to see her as well, can anyone PM me what to expect? I tried to read the forums but I see she would like for people to not post their experience on the forums.GFE Nice Time but 3 $$.

MelJaySim
08-18-21, 16:10
Saw her today. Haley was right the girls there are definitely a improvement. Ava has a great personality and will leave you happy. Will be seeing her from now on as well.

Sharkesque
08-18-21, 16:21
Had a great massage with Haley at Pacific in Cascade. (Not the same girl as Hayley at Panacea). My first massage actually. Cute little BBW with a fantastic attitude. Massage was nice and the flip was awesome. Will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/enjoy-a-bbw-giving-you-a-massa/288427683461

Shawtren
08-18-21, 17:14
My go to girl was gone for the week and I was in need of some attention. I was checking for availability of others I knew and was not having much luck. Then I came across the STG ad for Jaye. I have seen her a few times and enjoyed her before she got to be too far away from me. She is in a new place close by for a while and I must say, it is very discrete. I would never have known it was there and neither will you.

My visit with her was as good as I remember. Great conversation to get relaxed, long legs for a beginning distraction, a marvelous ass to keep my hands busy, and some very good teasing and attention to the places I requested.

She striped down to nothing for the flip and my hands were all over her and hers all over me. She climbed on top and was a sensual tease. I liked it a lot! She took me to the edge, held me there for a bit until I asked her to finish me.

There was a big mess that we cleaned up. Again, the conversation came easily between us. I feel very comfortable around her.

The rate for this half hour of erotic encounter was $110 and in my opinion worth it all. I certainly recommend her and would happily see her again.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/jaye/826244504620

Swcdt
08-18-21, 17:21
Is it certain girls that offer FS or they all will? And what serenity? When I Google there was more than one. Thanks.Serenity relaxation, its across the road from Lowes on Plainfield. Ask for Monroe (aka Tiffany) or Honda. Not sure who else offers the FS.

Ibow1
08-19-21, 08:48
You did or did not see Di at MBD In 2019? You post says this is your first but your history says otherwise. Just curious. Which MP did you choose and for what reason?.I did but want looking for a sexual experience at the time but nonetheless, she was incredible. I haven't been able to link up yet with the provider I'm hoping for but when I do, I'll for sure review.

Hope that satisfied your curiosity.

NewTurner
08-19-21, 15:13
Any insights on local AMPs? Which to avoid? Anyone in particular to see? Curious specifically about AMPs not the STG ads. Feel free to private message me with any info.

Crutches
08-19-21, 17:49
Had a great massage with Haley at Pacific in Cascade. (Not the same girl as Hayley at Panacea). My first massage actually. Cute little BBW with a fantastic attitude. Massage was nice and the flip was awesome. Will repeat.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/enjoy-a-bbw-giving-you-a-massa/288427683461I literally left there just 20 minutes ago from see her.

Paid for 1 hr, got 35 minutes.

Massage skills are simply nonexistent, oily rub that did nothing to work the mussels.

Standard happy ending, and even that was lackluster.

Nyped96
08-19-21, 19:00
I did a walk in to Pacific on Cascade today hoping to catch Hayley or Ava. Ava was not there and Hayley was with a client, so I settled for Heidi for a hhr appointment. She is Asian and spoke passable English. The massage was lackluster, but the flip was okay with over the clothes roaming. In the end I gave her 20 tip, which is standard for HJ but she was upset and said she normally gets 60 or higher. Is that the going rate now? I haven't been to that MP in a long time, so I was surprised. I ended up adding 10. My last MP experience was at Panacea and I tipped 60 because the provider went nude and allow roaming except fiv.

Monger01
08-19-21, 19:38
I did a walk in to Pacific on Cascade today hoping to catch Hayley or Ava. Ava was not there and Hayley was with a client, so I settled for Heidi for a hhr appointment. She is Asian and spoke passable English. The massage was lackluster, but the flip was okay with over the clothes roaming. In the end I gave her 20 tip, which is standard for HJ but she was upset and said she normally gets 60 or higher. Is that the going rate now? I haven't been to that MP in a long time, so I was surprised. I ended up adding 10. My last MP experience was at Panacea and I tipped 60 because the provider went nude and allow roaming except fiv."Standard" is tip matches door. So 40/40 60/60. Heidi is a *****. She worked at 44th Pacific for over 10 years. Terrible attitude. Expects top tip for half assed massage and HJ. Won't remove clothes.

Benz1
08-19-21, 20:59
I did a walk in to Pacific on Cascade today hoping to catch Hayley or Ava. Ava was not there and Hayley was with a client, so I settled for Heidi for a hhr appointment. She is Asian and spoke passable English. The massage was lackluster, but the flip was okay with over the clothes roaming. In the end I gave her 20 tip, which is standard for HJ but she was upset and said she normally gets 60 or higher. Is that the going rate now? I haven't been to that MP in a long time, so I was surprised. I ended up adding 10. My last MP experience was at Panacea and I tipped 60 because the provider went nude and allow roaming except fiv.If you want totally nude full roaming, FIV and prostate massage see Christy at Wonder. The BJ is lame. At least she attempts, more than I can say for most.

She might be bigger than you like but she's really nice.

MelJaySim
08-19-21, 22:17
I did a walk in to Pacific on Cascade today hoping to catch Hayley or Ava. Ava was not there and Hayley was with a client, so I settled for Heidi for a hhr appointment. She is Asian and spoke passable English. The massage was lackluster, but the flip was okay with over the clothes roaming. In the end I gave her 20 tip, which is standard for HJ but she was upset and said she normally gets 60 or higher. Is that the going rate now? I haven't been to that MP in a long time, so I was surprised. I ended up adding 10. My last MP experience was at Panacea and I tipped 60 because the provider went nude and allow roaming except fiv.Thanks cause I was going to see how she was but now I will pass.

MelJaySim
08-19-21, 22:20
Anyone know who's good over there? Nude possibly. Full roam. At least a great HE.

Monger01
08-20-21, 11:11
If you want totally nude full roaming, FIV and prostate massage see Christy at Wonder. The BJ is lame. At least she attempts, more than I can say for most.

She might be bigger than you like but she's really nice.I second that Christy understands how to service a customer. I never left unhappy.

Monger01
08-20-21, 11:14
Anyone know who's good over there? Nude possibly. Full roam. At least a great HE.I was a weekly client there for over 10 years but the talent there is mostly overweight and over priced now. After numerous visits where I'm quoted $100 or more to remove just a shirt I stopped going there.

Take your hard earned cash and go to Panecea or Wonder where the service is good the attitudes are good and the price is reasonable.

Blackfire
08-20-21, 12:15
I second that Christy understands how to service a customer. I never left unhappy.Christy is a sweet gal. No drama, very laid back. But. The massage, if I could call it that, is not much more than light touch and her rubbing her body on your back. Once she feels you are safe she readily sheds clothes and is easy to work with. The BJ is basically her mouth on the outside of the shaft up and down, no complaints said she would puke! Overall she is sweet and safe, schedule half hour cause no massage skills. $120 was the damage for half.

PurpMan61
08-21-21, 10:04
I don't believe I've seen Jessi reviewed yet as she's part of Brits girls. Communication was easy and quick. Was able to schedule and see her with no problems. Met her at the location in east town (had no idea they had that location). Received the full hour, lots of oil so her hands slid up and down very smooth. Firm massage, made sure to get every part of my body as well. On the flip, a little more massage, then I started getting comfortable and putting my hands all over her. The finish was fun and sensual. She seems to get into as well. She was easy to talk to and I had a lot of fun. Definitely will be back. It sounds like the downtown location will be closing soon once the Wyoming location is up and running. So they'll have the Wyoming location and east town potentially.

DaddyJoel
08-21-21, 10:52
I decided to try Royal again after not going there for about 3 years. I contacted a provider on STG and the communication was great. When I got there and checked in, everything went fairly well. After the massage started, things went down hill quickly. I had asked the provider what she enjoyed doing during her sessions, and was told "I like doing anything that pleases you, so you'll return to me". Good answer, poor execution. When I asked for this or that, the response was "oh, that will be an extra tip" (I had already tipped generously). After the flip, it was pretty much a DIY till I finished and then I was handed a hot wash cloth, and the provider left. If I do return to Royal, I will definitely be more careful on choosing my provider. Lesson learned.

Tazz51
08-21-21, 11:32
Christy is a sweet gal. No drama, very laid back. But. The massage, if I could call it that, is not much more than light touch and her rubbing her body on your back. Once she feels you are safe she readily sheds clothes and is easy to work with. The BJ is basically her mouth on the outside of the shaft up and down, no complaints said she would puke! Overall she is sweet and safe, schedule half hour cause no massage skills. $120 was the damage for half.Was that $120 tip or $120 out the door? Do you have a link or contact info? Thanks.

Tazz51
08-21-21, 11:43
Serenity relaxation, its across the road from Lowes on Plainfield. Ask for Monroe (aka Tiffany) or Honda. Not sure who else offers the FS.Sounds good what should I expect to give for a tip? Thanks.

Blackfire
08-21-21, 15:39
Was that $120 tip or $120 out the door? Do you have a link or contact info? Thanks.It's Wonder Spa off of Plainfield. No link or contact info, I just walked in and she was the one working. $120 was my total cost, I actually gave $60 for an hour when I went in, very short very lame massage and she worked right into the action part. Never discussed tip money with her. We were done in 25 minutes so I when I tipped her I said since it wasn't an hour here's another $60 and you can consider it $40 for the half hour it was and an $80 tip. She was happy with that. Even though she actually gave a sort of HJ and went nude right away I still feel like it wasn't really worth it. Sweet girl though and if I go back I'd work her a bit for more involved interaction for that money. Most of the BJ was her mouth running up and down the shaft on the outside, I had to direct a bit to get her to actually put it inside her mouth for more than a minute. Then she was really concerned about me not unloading in her mouth, said it makes her puke. Kinda killed it there a little.

PurpMan61
08-21-21, 16:32
I decided to try Royal again after not going there for about 3 years. I contacted a provider on STG and the communication was great. When I got there and checked in, everything went fairly well. After the massage started, things went down hill quickly. I had asked the provider what she enjoyed doing during her sessions, and was told "I like doing anything that pleases you, so you'll return to me". Good answer, poor execution. When I asked for this or that, the response was "oh, that will be an extra tip" (I had already tipped generously). After the flip, it was pretty much a DIY till I finished and then I was handed a hot wash cloth, and the provider left. If I do return to Royal, I will definitely be more careful on choosing my provider. Lesson learned.Sounds like someone that should be avoided.

Benz1
08-21-21, 20:35
Sounds good what should I expect to give for a tip? Thanks.I doubt Monroe has a job there now. Vicki started offering FS and got fired.

It would be nice to have a salon full of escorts, I think LE would shut it down before we all got a chance to check in.

Salons are different than escorts. They're usually hired for their looks and or skills and can be fired too. Escorts can't be fired, they're usually independent unless they work for Bambi.

Sbff1
08-21-21, 20:45
I doubt Monroe has a job there now. Vicki started offering FS and got fired.

It would be nice to have a salon full of escorts, I think LE would shut it down before we all got a chance to check in.

Salons are different than escorts. They're usually hired for their looks and or skills and can be fired too. Escorts can't be fired, they're usually independent unless they work for Bambi.With all due respect.

Plenty of full service at serenity.

Marie there by appt, Honda, Monroe.

And Vicki quit do to not getting part of the door fees. Only tips.

Benz1
08-21-21, 20:55
With all due respect.

Plenty of full service at serenity.

Marie there by appt, Honda, Monroe.

And Vicki quit do to not getting part of the door fees. Only tips.Might point is.

They can all be fired.

Blackfire
08-22-21, 01:16
With all due respect.

Plenty of full service at serenity.

Marie there by appt, Honda, Monroe.

And Vicki quit do to not getting part of the door fees. Only tips.Even if she got half the door fee that's small change compared to what the ladies there get for full service. Wonder how the other masssge escorts get paid, like at body works where they start out with a $180 flat fee and go up from there for the full Monty?

Benz1
08-22-21, 10:41
Even if she got half the door fee that's small change compared to what the ladies there get for full service. Wonder how the other masssge escorts get paid, like at body works where they start out with a $180 flat fee and go up from there for the full Monty?They're all pros.

I've seen reviews where the monger gets dressed goes out to his car to get more money and back in again.

They play each monger for what they can. I'm guessing they can smell a newbie from 50 ft away.

WtmpkaYnkE
08-22-21, 13:00
I'm headed up this way towards the end of this week and I was wondering what sort of places you have up this way? I'd rather a PM than a post, I have no intention of sharing your intel. However, if you're ever down towards Indy let me know and I'll recommend a few places worth trying. Have yet to find anywhere that offers nuru, so if you've got one of those on the DL here, I'd appreciate that. Other than that, I'd be interested in anything under 40's and preferably on the slimmer side, anything full service, or with a lot of tease. Thanks in advance!

TheSwampHawk
08-22-21, 13:37
Is it certain girls that offer FS or they all will? And what serenity? When I Google there was more than one. Thanks.Historically good advice is to take nothing for granted and assume that every situation (context, provider, agreement, etc.) is subject to change at no notice & for inexplicable (if any) reasons. As I've been quoted: "There's a hella lot more erratic than erotic in this business. " I know some guys will swear they have "a system", or an ATF, or SOMETHING that's a "sure thing. ".

Just FWIW.

HH, SS,

-SH.

LandRover20
08-23-21, 10:23
I don't believe I've seen Jessi reviewed yet as she's part of Brits girls. Communication was easy and quick. Was able to schedule and see her with no problems. Met her at the location in east town (had no idea they had that location). Received the full hour, lots of oil so her hands slid up and down very smooth. Firm massage, made sure to get every part of my body as well. On the flip, a little more massage, then I started getting comfortable and putting my hands all over her. The finish was fun and sensual. She seems to get into as well. She was easy to talk to and I had a lot of fun. Definitely will be back. It sounds like the downtown location will be closing soon once the Wyoming location is up and running. So they'll have the Wyoming location and east town potentially.A buddy of mine seen Jessi not too long ago and sounds like he had the same experience. Said she was awesome. His one complaint was about the east town location. Guess it didn't have the same ambiance as the downtown location. He'll be bummed to hear they're shutting that down. Think it was more convenient for him too as opposed to Wyoming.

Do they have an AA girl at bodyworks?

Monger01
08-23-21, 12:01
Historically good advice is to take nothing for granted and assume that every situation (context, provider, agreement, etc.) is subject to change at no notice & for inexplicable (if any) reasons. As I've been quoted: "There's a hella lot more erratic than erotic in this business. " I know some guys will swear they have "a system", or an ATF, or SOMETHING that's a "sure thing. ".

Just FWIW.

HH, SS,

-SH.After 2 decades of mongering that is spot on sage advice. Particularly when speaking on massage providers. Some give FS to a select few. Some never do period.

Blackfire
08-23-21, 17:20
A buddy of mine seen Jessi not too long ago and sounds like he had the same experience. Said she was awesome. His one complaint was about the east town location. Guess it didn't have the same ambiance as the downtown location. He'll be bummed to hear they're shutting that down. Think it was more convenient for him too as opposed to Wyoming.

Do they have an AA girl at bodyworks?Wonder why they move locations so frequently? Do they have a benefactor client who's a real estate guy and gets them new locations every couple of months? Has to be fairly costly to move so frequently, and they must be lucky to get those short-term leases for space and be able to renovate them to meet their needs for the short term? They're a little like the Michigan weather, if you don't like where they are wait a minute and they may have a new location near you!

Mike Yepthatsm
08-23-21, 18:56
They are waiting for the renovations on their permanent location to be done but things are taking way longer than originally planned.


Wonder why they move locations so frequently? Do they have a benefactor client who's a real estate guy and gets them new locations every couple of months? Has to be fairly costly to move so frequently, and they must be lucky to get those short-term leases for space and be able to renovate them to meet their needs for the short term? They're a little like the Michigan weather, if you don't like where they are wait a minute and they may have a new location near you!

Sparty On 1234
08-23-21, 20:34
They are waiting for the renovations on their permanent location to be done but things are taking way longer than originally planned.I spoke to Brit about her plans. She has purchased a vacant building in Wyoming. Easy location with easy parking. The building needs extensive renovations. I saw her plans and they look great but the remodel has yet to start. I think it will be months before they make the final move. The downtown location is nice. I think the new location will be great too.

BigT0501
08-24-21, 07:56
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/hey-loves-im-back/948096128775

Gary914
08-24-21, 09:04
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/hey-loves-im-back/948096128775It's Summer at Top.

FlashMe
08-24-21, 09:24
Hey all,

I live out of state but travel to GR regularly for work. I have been making occasional stops at Panacea for several years now. I generally just show and a take the luck of the draw but I am wondering if I should be using a different strategy.

Also related to this I am not a regular at MPs in my home town or really anywhere else but Panacea. I am reluctant to try other places but perhaps I should. Given I like a low key location that's safe and clean are there other places in GR I should be trying?

Thanks in advance.

Raiokami
08-24-21, 15:05
I haven't posted much on here, but I've played around a lot since my last post. I've had multiple visits to panacea to see Natalie and Ava. Natalie is my favorite and Ava is my second for sure. I usually only go for an HH and tip whatever the door fee is. They both are good with conversation and making the energy in the room comfortable. I pulled Haley today for a walk-in. I wouldn't recommend her, yeah she's younger, but she mentions tip during the massage and will only do a HJ for .6 as an additional tip. I had to cough up a $ just to get her comfortable, flip me, and get the HJ. She was fun, but not worth the money. Stick with Natalie or Ava.

Monger01
08-24-21, 17:34
It's Summer at Top.What / where is "top"? Is that a parlor name?

UtrGuy
08-24-21, 17:41
What / where is "top"? Is that a parlor name?Touch of paradise on 28th St.

Summer is smoking hot but service and personality are severely lacking.

Tommey
08-24-21, 19:03
I haven't posted much on here, but I've played around a lot since my last post. I've had multiple visits to panacea to see Natalie and Ava. Natalie is my favorite and Ava is my second for sure. I usually only go for an HH and tip whatever the door fee is. They both are good with conversation and making the energy in the room comfortable. I pulled Haley today for a walk-in. I wouldn't recommend her, yeah she's younger, but she mentions tip during the massage and will only do a HJ for .6 as an additional tip. I had to cough up a $ just to get her comfortable, flip me, and get the HJ. She was fun, but not worth the money. Stick with Natalie or Ava.Strongly agree with your suggestions, especially Ava (Avaa). I would also add Annie, Lexi, and Eve (Evee) to the great gal list, very fun, and a good visit for sure. On the avoid list, don't see Zoey, asks for huge tips and shorts on time (I paid for an hour and got less than 30 minutes). Hayley shorts time too, big time.

Moonglow913
08-24-21, 22:53
It's Summer at Top.I am surprised to hear Summer is still at TOP. I saw her a couple years back and had a good time. Expensive! That was how I found out they have their own ATM (LOL). Was not the greatest attitude wise but man what a hot body and face. Hard not to enjoy looking down at that as you pound away.

Gatorade1972
08-24-21, 23:33
Touch of paradise on 28th St.

Summer is smoking hot but service and personality are severely lacking.Was going to see her, what was her donation? What was the major issues? FS or just HE?

Tazz51
08-25-21, 01:19
Had another great visit with Allison at Panacea. Before she came in the room she went outside for a smoke. While I was waiting in the room for her I got a surprise visit from Natalie, that was pretty cool LOL. When Allison came in she was nice and hot from being outside and I could smell the cigarette smoke on her. (I really like that scent on a woman) she allowed me to help her undress and I took my time enjoying the smells and feel of her nicely toned body. She's very playfull once you get to know her and I love seeing her smile when does some special things to me, haha. Can't wait to go back, but I might have to see Natalie next time, I know she's a fun girl too. All in for the hour. 6/ tip $.Was it a Standard HE?

Monger01
08-25-21, 10:50
Was it a Standard HE?Happy ending. Aka a handjob.

Monger01
08-25-21, 10:51
Touch of paradise on 28th St.

Summer is smoking hot but service and personality are severely lacking.Thank you sir.

PurpMan61
08-25-21, 11:42
A buddy of mine seen Jessi not too long ago and sounds like he had the same experience. Said she was awesome. His one complaint was about the east town location. Guess it didn't have the same ambiance as the downtown location. He'll be bummed to hear they're shutting that down. Think it was more convenient for him too as opposed to Wyoming.

Do they have an AA girl at bodyworks?Based on the pictures from their ads a while back and the girls I've seen while walking in I don't believe an AA woman work there. Yet anyways. The east town location was fine. Typical office setup. Looks brand new in there. I had no problems with it.

Mystry12
08-25-21, 16:28
Anyone had any experience good or bad? I love Latin women! LOL.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/all-that-you-could-want-deep/268730057954

Thanks in advance.

BobSled45
08-25-21, 18:06
Dreamed I saw Natalie yesterday, great experience overall. She was very comfortable and sensual. Massage was 5/10 (no pressure) but the flip was great. 10/10 would recommend. . 6/. 4.

Moonglow913
08-26-21, 08:26
Dreamed I saw Natalie yesterday, great experience overall. She was very comfortable and sensual. Massage was 5/10 (no pressure) but the flip was great. 10/10 would recommend. . 6/. 4.Did you catch who it was you saw?

AmpPerv
08-26-21, 13:24
Can any regulars of Panacea add names to the pics in their new ad? Looks like some newbies, and some oldies are missing. Any that you know of who are not pictured? Maybe let the manager know names in the ads would be nice. I don't know when I can get there yet so I would not be able to tell them any time soon. Thanks.

https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/panacea-halloween-custom-party/910197261915

Mongerlian
08-26-21, 14:33
I see the dumpster fire has landed at Royal, used to go and see lexi, but her time went down as her prices (and size) went up. I like a thicc girl but she was well past that last I knew. Is there anyone good at RT anymore? I miss Amber so fucking much, she was amazing.

DorianGray907
08-26-21, 16:06
I saw Jaye again at her newest location last night. Paid for the hour got an hour and 10 minutes. Super safe location excellent service. I would say it is just like a second body works location just a few different ladies. I can't say enough good things about her. Please feel free to pm with questions comments or concerns.