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Member #4746
12-18-12, 23:20
I saw Lea (Lin) at Oasis. She is still amazing. Very hot looking and gives a good massage. YMMV.
Has anyone had a good experience with Stacey? She too, is very attractive and petite, but her attitude is very unpredictable.Stacey is petite with a banging bod, attitude is unpredictable. Decent massage with a decent HE. First experience was better then the last. YMMV
MsAlready2504
12-19-12, 14:33
Please do not call nor txt asking for pics nd location if your not sure of the day or time or what it is your looking for you all knw who you are and thanks to those who have canceled appts but also made them as well HAPPY HOLIDAYS
Lovemassages
12-19-12, 20:17
Went to see Envy she is a white girl with a curvy figure and big boobs. Massage was good, conversation was great! She didn't mind wondering hands and great HE! Will be going back for sure! Just don't mention "fun" times over phone just ask for Envy! She works different days so have to call to see if she is in! No up charge! 50 for hour and 35 for half an hour! Well worth it! Have had Cathy and Tina both also do HE
Has anyone seen or know if Jessica (curly black hair) formerly of Panacea still around? Thanks.
Saw Katie at Panacea last week. What a great time! She has an amazing personality and gives a great massage. She has a unique look (which I love) with the tattoos and piercings. She worked the areas of my back that I was struggling with and was very good on the flip with a satisfying ending. Tip was never discussed, but I tipped well. I thought this was great as it did not ruin the mood with negotiations or talk of money. I definitely recommend Katie and Panacea in general.
RushBlitzer
12-21-12, 10:26
Went to see Envy she is a white girl with a curvy figure and big boobs. Massage was good, conversation was great! She didn't mind wondering hands and great HE! Will be going back for sure! Just don't mention "fun" times over phone just ask for Envy! She works different days so have to call to see if she is in! No up charge! 50 for hour and 35 for half an hour! Well worth it! Have had Cathy and Tina both also do HEWhere is su massage, all my searches come up with nothing. I live on the NE side but I haven't seen anything new on Plainfield.
RushBlitzer
12-21-12, 10:35
Checked out la spa. Since I was passing through the area. Very convient right off the ext. Place sorta looks like a barn though. Inside it is fine though. Standard hr / hhr prices. Girl was ok nothing special. Asian, broken English, decent massage I guess.
French was an option but wanted a Benny for it. Passed.
HE, with some decent dirty talk, tipped $40, massage was $40.
I saw Lea (Lin) at Oasis. She is still amazing. Very hot looking and gives a good massage. YMMV.
Has anyone had a good experience with Stacey? She too, is very attractive and petite, but her attitude is very unpredictable.Is Lin the same girl from Pacific? Vietnamese
Is Lin the same girl from Pacific? VietnameseYes. Lea used to be Lin at Pacific. Lea is about 20 pounds heavier now, but it went to all the right places. She is still very hot in my opinion.
where is su massage, all my searches come up with nothing. I live on the ne side but i haven't seen anything new on plainfield.Location : 4532 division s, kentwood, mi.
(corner of division and ridge wood)
TwistedBrother
12-21-12, 15:30
You might repost your review here: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3746-Portland-Reports
I know Portland is kinda in-between, but closer to Lansing, so we started a small thread for it. Interesting place. Been around forever. LE keeps closing them down, but they open back up. They've really started pushing on Backpage since they've reopened again.
Checked out la spa. Since I was passing through the area. Very convient right off the ext. Place sorta looks like a barn though. Inside it is fine though. Standard hr / hhr prices. Girl was ok nothing special. Asian, broken English, decent massage I guess.
French was an option but wanted a Benny for it. Passed.
HE, with some decent dirty talk, tipped $40, massage was $40.
Where is su massage, all my searches come up with nothing. I live on the NE side but I haven't seen anything new on Plainfield.It's located on Division, just south of 44th on the west side.
Is Lin the same girl from Pacific? VietnameseYes she's at Royal now and goes by Lea now.
The Scroller
12-22-12, 07:34
Beware of this disgusting waste of time. Says its for a massage then strokes with one hand while talking $. The rest of the time was spent with a mix of BBBJ and her trying to get her own self taken care of. Largely over weight with saggy bags for breasts. All this happened after many cancelled appts and strange telephone demeanor.
I just learned of this site and have many more reports to give. She is the first.
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bts/3470950352.html
GrrrrMonger
12-22-12, 22:55
Made a last minute 1 hr appointment last week at Royal and was assigned Lyndsey. She gave a pretty good 35 minute back massage and then nice 10 minute finish after the flop. She had kind of a smoker's voice, if you know what I mean, and wasn't a real looker, but nice massage nonetheless. I'll probably stick with Jennifer or try Lea in the future.
Member #4430
12-23-12, 04:35
This guy, tonyman is pimping ladies out of his white trailer off exit 402, near straw berry plains. Exit is called mid way exit / this guys name is parently kenny bailey and he is a felon who is running these massages out of his trailer with a flag out front which has a be on it. I went for a massage one night, with dallas and she was greta but I heard the cops are steaking out this place getting ready to run a sting opp on it. Just want to let all of you know. Also, I heard this kenny guy actually watches his hoes give the massages. I wonder if he was gettin his rocks off when she was rubbing me down. LOL and e way, be careful, thats all I'm sayin got to spread the word and keep every one safe peace man, love.Here is the post that exposed the operations at the Midway halfway house!
In January, Jennifer is going to be opening a third location on 28th Street between Eastern and Kalamazoo (I think). From what I understand, Jennifer will be based there. Stacey will be at Oasis. Lea will be at Royal. I am not sure how everyone else will be divided up, but they are so close to each other that Jennifer will be able to shuttle girls around with 5 minutes notice.
Hey all were (ashlynn and madison) both now gracing east west with our services call and make appointments as soon as possible "while supplies last" LOL miss you.Well, that did not last too long. I called East West for Ashlynn or Madison and I was told neither one was working there any longer. The girl on the phone would not give me any more information.
Has anyone seen or know if Jessica (curly black hair) formerly of Panacea still around? Thanks.She was pregnant, and I believe taking some time off. I saw her about a month ago and she is a hottie for sure, but basically bitched about being sick from the pregnancy the entire time.
TwistedBrother
12-23-12, 15:27
Thanks for the report. Some of us had been wondering about her and hopeful. Sounds like we should avoid.
Beware of this disgusting waste of time. Says its for a massage then strokes with one hand while talking $. The rest of the time was spent with a mix of BBBJ and her trying to get her own self taken care of. Largely over weight with saggy bags for breasts. All this happened after many cancelled appts and strange telephone demeanor.
I just learned of this site and have many more reports to give. She is the first.
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bts/3470950352.html
Seeing that they were open again and because their advertisement on Backpage showed a couple of hot young Asians (and they put posters age at 29) I decided to take the short drive from GR to exit 73. I'm here to say. What a waste of my time and money. The place is the same as always, everything is on the menu for the right price. Typical $40 half hour, $60 hour entry fee. The lady I had (said her name was coco) was not a hot young thing, the massage was not a very good massage, the hour was 45 minutes and the CBJ I paid $100 for was lame, uninspired and uninteresting for the coin. The condom was so thick I couldn't feel anything through it, I finally had to take it off and have her finish HJ. I would not recommend this place, there are way to many better places in GR to get a HJ.
Saw Katie at Panacea last week. What a great time! She has an amazing personality and gives a great massage. She has a unique look (which I love) with the tattoos and piercings. She worked the areas of my back that I was struggling with and was very good on the flip with a satisfying ending. Tip was never discussed, but I tipped well. I thought this was great as it did not ruin the mood with negotiations or talk of money. I definitely recommend Katie and Panacea in general.Hey, What's her body type? Thin, heavy, athletic?
Great massage here from Paige about a week ago. The massage is good quality "therapeutic" with some stretching included. Something I appreciate. Extras don't seem to be a part of the business direction here. Maybe available?. Didn't expect it here from this masseuse. YMMV
GrrrrMonger
12-28-12, 00:20
Had another nice massage from Jennifer at Royal, and she confirmed she'll be moving to a new location on 28th Street across from Enterprise Rentacar (between Kalamazoo and Eastern) , called Miracle Massage.
If you've never had her walk on your back, you should ask, 'cause it's pretty awesome. The phone calls and other interruptions in the office were a bit bothersome this time, but I still left feeling relaxed.
I went the wonder massage on plainfield and the beltline. In GR. Nice location. Very clean and private. Also the inside allows for a lot of privacy in the rooms. Had a lady named Katie (I think that was her name. Blond 20's) give me a wonderful massage. More was available as it was hinted to a few times but I told her from the start my back had knots in it and that was my focus for the day. I will repeat for sure. Also on the way out the 2 girl was in the hallway very cute brunette and both ladies were attractively dressed.
I went the wonder massage on plainfield and the beltline. In GR. Nice location. Very clean and private. Also the inside allows for a lot of privacy in the rooms. Had a lady named Katie (I think that was her name. Blond 20's) give me a wonderful massage. More was available as it was hinted to but I told her from the start my back had knots in it and that was my focus for the day. I will repeat for sure. Also on the way out the 2 girl was in the hallway very cute brunette and both ladies were attractively dressed.
Had another nice massage from Jennifer at Royal, and she confirmed she'll be moving to a new location on 28th Street across from Enterprise Rentacar (between Kalamazoo and Eastern) , called Miracle Massage.
If you've never had her walk on your back, you should ask, 'cause it's pretty awesome. The phone calls and other interruptions in the office were a bit bothersome this time, but I still left feeling relaxed.Recent visit with Jennifer at Royal. Massage is good, ending good. Very, very striking lady. But all of the interruptions just don't work for me. Upon paying for an hour. Elapsed time was about 35 minutes. After subtracting the time for phone calls and interruptions, it was probably a 20-minute session. Not a value in my opinion. Not likely to repeat. You never know I guess. The only thing I see as a plus is the hours of operation into the evening. The value with the independent therapist seems much better to me. Scheduling then can be an issue, of course. As for mp's, East-West seems to work much better for me. Even with the rapid turnover, I have really never been disappointed. Much better value from my perspective.
Went for the 1st time to East West and was very disappointed. The choices were old, way overweight, and ghetto. I chose incorrectly by going the ghetto route. Dallas gave a very subpar massage even though I asked her many times to work deeper. On the flip, she charged way too much for a HE and topless ($60) , especially with the quality of her body and her effort. She had a long litany of things that she won't do and very little that she would do. Very, very disappointed. I'll stick with Panacea.
Hi all,
I'll be flying into GR in a few weeks, getting in around 830pm, is there someplace close to the airport where I could get a massage?
Thanks in advance for the help
FastHustler
01-03-13, 20:58
Just went to see Valerie from E / W she gives a GREAT massage! Only draw back is that it is in her basement it did not bother me but I can see where it will bother some people. She will be a regular stop for me from now on for sure. PM for details
HI all,
Ill be flying into GR in a few weeks, getting in around 830pm, is there someplace close to the airport where I could get a massage? Thanks in advance for the helpMassage paradise and Rainbow are open late.
Where is massage paradise? I have been in GR for 10 years and on this board for awhile and haven't heard of the place. I must have had tunnel vision.
Massage paradise and Rainbow are open late.
Where is massage paradise? I have been in GR for 10 years and on this board for awhile and haven't heard of the place. I must have had tunnel vision.Jennifer's new place (Royal and Oasis). Opens Jan. 8 on 28th Street between Eastern and Kalamazoo on the north side of the road.
Jennifer's new place (Royal and Oasis). Opens Jan. 8 on 28th Street between Eastern and Kalamazoo on the north side of the road.It's the old State Farm Insurance office I believe next to an open field. That place isn't real big and parking can be cramped. Depending on the time of day getting out of there is going to be pure hell to.
Went to Royal yesterday and saw Kia for the first time. Very nice body and a nice massage. Left happy! She will moving with Jennifer to the new 28th street location and I would definitely see her again.
Darious2041
01-05-13, 01:08
HI all,
Ill be flying into GR in a few weeks, getting in around 830pm, is there someplace close to the airport where I could get a massage? Thanks in advance for the helpI see Valerie every two wks I also pay in advance for the next month nd she's always good to me with no problems but she works from home no longer at East / West I have contact info for her if your interested.
OK. Jennifer told me about it but I forgot the name. BTW, had a four hand with Jennifer and Stephanie (Who is usually at Oasis). Nice time.
Jennifer's new place (Royal and Oasis). Opens Jan. 8 on 28th Street between Eastern and Kalamazoo on the north side of the road.
WyomingMax
01-05-13, 08:56
It's the old State Farm Insurance office I believe next to an open field. That place isn't real big and parking can be cramped. Depending on the time of day getting out of there is going to be pure hell to.I went by there yesterday, it's a pretty big place across from Enterprise with a pretty big parking lot, but I agree 28th st is busy sometimes. Looked like they were busy getting it ready to open on Tuesday. I called and they said they had a lot of new girls for the new place. Curious to see if any are better than Jennifer.
Stopped by the panacea yesterday. No appointment I was a walk in. Had a beautiful 40 year old lady named megan give me a great massage. Perfect store bought assets to adore. I will repeat as the ending was great.
60 massage.
40 tip.
Tip was voluntary and never discussed or asked for.
I went by there yesterday, it's a pretty big place across from Enterprise with a pretty big parking lot, but I agree 28th st is busy sometimes. Looked like they were busy getting it ready to open on Tuesday. I called and they said they had a lot of new girls for the new place. Curious to see if any are better than Jennifer.I gave up on my regular BP girl so I may Give it a try and report.
I gave up on my regular BP girl so I may Give it a try and report.Are you finally going to tell us who your BP girl is?
Are you finally going to tell us who your BP girl is?I have been seeing "Jasmine" for maybe 6 months or so. The Jasmine from the Jasmine / Nikki duo. We have parted ways. I wanted to go into details here on the board but changed my mind. I let my heart get involved and got burned in the end. I can't blame her cause I am far from perfect. I always treated her with respect and wanted to make a difference in her life. I wish you the best Jasmine, I know you'll be reading this.
I have been seeing "Jasmine" for maybe 6 months or so. The Jasmine from the Jasmine / Nikki duo. We have parted ways. I wanted to go into details here on the board but changed my mind. I let my heart get involved and got burned in the end. I can't blame her cause I am far from perfect. I always treated her with respect and wanted to make a difference in her life. I wish you the best Jasmine, I know you'll be reading this.Thank you for sharing and I hope 2013 treats you better.
MsAlready2504
01-07-13, 14:31
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Thank you for sharing and I hope 2013 treats you better.Ty. I know we all need to be careful how we get connected (emotionally and financially) to providers.
MsAlready2504
01-08-13, 00:22
Hey Fellas nd Happy New Years I'm no longer running my special there is a picture posted of me here in the reviews for massage parlors for those of you who need a description of me hope to see you all soon.
I lived in Rockford IL in the mid 90's and used to go to the MPs in Belvidere, IL. There were two all American staff, I just don't like AMP's no offense to anyone. The massages were real massages and the girls would let you massage them, typically anywhere, just no penetration. Body slides, with a body shot finish, or finish Russian, a few BBBJ's after I got to know the 'attendant ' but that was rare. Does anyone know of any provider or have any recommendations for this type of service. These were great massages and super endings, never a rip off. PM if you prefer.
Thanks and Stay safe
Diamond post under beauty on CL and body rubs on backpage. Very pretty pic any info out there? Her phone starts with 419.
Diamond post under beauty on CL and body rubs on backpage. Very pretty pic any info out there? Her phone starts with 419-Your a new member, RTFF and if she's not reviewed and looks good, TOFTT and report.
To celebrate my becoming a senior member after lurking on this board since the beginning of time, I will post my top three providers by category. Please let me know your opinion.
Most Sensual : Cindy at Wonder, Jennifer at Massage Paradise, Natasha at Panacea.
Best Massage : Cindy, Amanda at Royal, Tammy at Pacific.
Hottest Looking Massage : Stacey at Oasis, Natasha, Summer at Panacea, Ashlynn at.
Best Ending : Lea at Oasis, Tammy, Natasha.
Best Attitude : Kea at Royal, Jennifer, Rhonda at Wonder, Most of Panacea staff.
Be Safe!
To celebrate my becoming a senior member after lurking on this board since the beginning of time, I will post my top three providers by category. Please let me know your opinion.
Most Sensual : Cindy at Wonder, Jennifer at Massage Paradise, Natasha at Panacea.
Best Massage : Cindy, Amanda at Royal, Tammy at Pacific.
Hottest Looking Massage : Stacey at Oasis, Natasha, Summer at Panacea, Ashlynn at.
Best Ending : Lea at Oasis, Tammy, Natasha.
Best Attitude : Kea at Royal, Jennifer, Rhonda at Wonder, Most of Panacea staff.
Be Safe!Nice! Thank you. And I agree with most of them, though never really that impressed with Tammy (maybe just me cause I like the petite things). Been quite a while since I've seen Cindy (way back to when she was at Pacific!). Does she take walk-ins at Wonder, or do you have to make an appointment specifically with her these days? I've been there a few times this year and haven't seen her there so was thinking she maybe doesn't really "work" much anymore.
Spongebob357
01-10-13, 11:11
Diamond post under beauty on CL and body rubs on backpage. Very pretty pic any info out there? Her phone starts with 419-Is this the lady you are referring to?
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/welcome-the-new-year-with-an-all-about-youpersonal-moment-26/10246306
How about checking her out and reporting back, I would guess that at the very least you will get a decent massage.
Nice! Thank you. And I agree with most of them, though never really that impressed with Tammy (maybe just me cause I like the petite things). Been quite a while since I've seen Cindy (way back to when she was at Pacific!). Does she take walk-ins at Wonder, or do you have to make an appointment specifically with her these days? I've been there a few times this year and haven't seen her there so was thinking she maybe doesn't really "work" much anymore.You have to make an appointment with Cindy.
Your a new member, RTFF and if she's not reviewed and looks good, TOFTT and report.Not new at all, have read the forum. Nothing is posted here I go back to scorps.
JckOnThaRocks
01-11-13, 07:19
Not new at all, have read the forum. Nothing is posted here I go back to scorps.Jeeze give the guy a break. I've heard that she looks like Wesley Snipes. I'd try someone else for your first time. If you really want to toftt I don't see much on here about Chrissy. Maybe try there. Just a suggestion. Good luck, be smart.
Trifecta33
01-11-13, 10:03
You don't need to make an appointment to see Cindy at Wonder. If she isn't there when you show up, you can either call her or have the girl at the desk call her. Her cell phone is on the business card. She's only a ten minute drive from Wonder. They'll have you go into her room, she has a room that only she uses, and you can wait for her. She'll come in if you request her.
The Scroller
01-11-13, 16:06
I had a half decent massage from Chrissy. The upside is that she has a smokin hot body and got "comfortable" right along with me! Upsell for extras and was given great promise of a full menu. Never went back to try it, I been thinking I should though. Cute, small and a nice attitude. Worth a try!
So, if Jennifer is moving to Massage Paradise who will be wearing the sexy outfits at Royal? Do any of the other girls at Royal wear mini skirts and high heals? The other girls I have seen there are usually in jeans (although jeans can be sexy on the right girl). A nice sexy outfit does add to the experience.
ChicagoSouth
01-11-13, 19:37
So, if Jennifer is moving to Massage Paradise who will be wearing the sexy outfits at Royal? Do any of the other girls at Royal wear mini skirts and high heals? The other girls I have seen there are usually in jeans (although jeans can be sexy on the right girl). A nice sexy outfit does add to the experience.I would like it better if they were naked or bra and panties would be great.
Went to pacific yesterday. Is been a while since my last visit. I didn't have an appointment so I was assigned "Heidi". Heidi was wonderful. Great massage. Very sweet and friendly. Left with a great experience until I saw a tall hot blonde or she could've had red hair. Anybody know who she is? I'd like to make an appt with her.
Shoeless1951
01-12-13, 01:07
Went to pacific yesterday. Is been a while since my last visit. I didn't have an appointment so I was assigned "Heidi". Heidi was wonderful. Great massage. Very sweet and friendly. Left with a great experience until I saw a tall hot blonde or she could've had red hair. Anybody know who she is? I'd like to make an appt with her.That was probably Sidney formerly of Panacea. She splits her time now between Pacific and East-West. I saw her one time at Pacific, She said all most everything was on the menu (covered) once she gets to know
You, So Bring your own cover! It seems like she told me that she was at Pacific on Thursdays and Sundays, with the other days at East West.
Moonglow913
01-12-13, 12:37
That was probably Sidney formerly of Panacea. She splits her time now between Pacific and East-West. I saw her one time at Pacific, She said all most everything was on the menu (covered) once she gets to know
You, So Bring your own cover! It seems like she told me that she was at Pacific on Thursdays and Sundays, with the other days at East West.If it was Sidney formerly of Panaces then she must of changed the color of her hair. When I saw her about a year ago it was burnette (maybe I have a different person). She was tall and above average in looks. I can confirm open menu (including FS for $$) but as stated. You need to provide your own cover. Unlike the the usual case where you pay everything (including tip) out front after the session she had me pay the "extra" donation for the "extra" service to her in the room.
GrrrrMonger
01-13-13, 17:05
I had a very nice massage at Massage Paradise with Amanda. She has a really therapeutic and relaxing technique, and really works the kinks out. There weren't any options, but a nice HE nonetheless.
GrrrrMonger
01-13-13, 17:08
I've had two awesome sessions with Natasha. She gives the most sensual massage short of BJ / FS that I've experienced, with lots of hands on attention going both ways. I would highly recommend her to anyone.
Happyone99
01-16-13, 01:30
My first time at Panacea I saw Molly. No appointment and did not request a specific woman. Good massage on both sides and I was very happy with the experience. Room was a bit too chilly was the only downside.
Will be back!
Member #6391
01-17-13, 00:01
I'm heading to GR this weekend. I've been RTFF and see that E / W and Pancaea both seem to get great reviews. Someone just looking for a decent massage with some good handy work, which is better?
If I go to Pancaea I'd love to see Natasha, but what about E / W?
Jeeze give the guy a break. I've heard that she looks like Wesley Snipes. I'd try someone else for your first time. If you really want to toftt I don't see much on here about Chrissy. Maybe try there. Just a suggestion. Good luck, be smart.Where is she located?
Does anybody have advice / tips for a newbie? I'm going to visit a mp today for the first time, don't know which one yet, and also what is some of the mp basic etiquette I should know? Any help would be appreciated.
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TwistedBrother
01-20-13, 03:46
You should do some googling and search forums within this site and possibly others. There are some resources for first-timers out there. Not sure if anyone wants to write an essay to cover all the possible scenarios. Using google, I found this on another site. FS is not too common at MPs in GR, I think. But in general, consider this:
When I first learned about massage parlors and what could be had behind those blacked-out windows, I scoured the Internet for information. I wanted to know exactly what to do and say — down to the last detail — to ensure a good time. I found some good information, but I didn't find exactly what I was looking for: a step-by-step guide to that first massage parlor visit. Hopefully this will help someone who was in my position to be a little more relaxed that first time.
(Note: The following is hypothetical and for informational purposes only. It is not based on any actual experience, and I do not advocate or encourage illegal activity of any sort.)
First, do your research. You should know what you want, and pick a place that'll give it to you. Find out everything you can about the place: when it's open, whether you should call for an appointment, how many girls are on staff, how do the girls rate (based on appearance, age, service) , do they offer what you want (HJ, FS, etc.) , what is the standard rate (house fee plus tip) , and so on. If you ask me, the right place is worth a bit of a drive, so don't limit your search to any particular area. (I'll list at the end of this article some good sources of information for starting your research.)
Now you've picked your place and you're ready to go. Before leaving, make sure you're clean — you're much more likely to have a good time if the girl isn't repulsed by your B. O. Or bad breath. If you smoke or drink a lot of coffee, take a breath mint with you. Bring only the money you plan to spend, and it's probably a good idea to leave any credit cards or identifying information (except for your driver's license) at home. You may opt to leave this stuff in your car once you get to the place, but consider the area you'll be in. If it's in a seedy part of town (which it is likely to be) , you might not want that stuff in your car either.
Once you've arrived, you'll want to go inside. Wait! Look around for anything suspicious. If there are people hanging around, wait for them to leave. Anything that makes you feel uneasy is a good enough reason to bail. Not only do you need to be mindful of law enforcement, but it's not uncommon for massage parlor patrons to be mugged; after all, they probably won't call the police. Also, be considerate of other hobbyists. If you see someone walk in, wait a few minutes before going up, to give him time to get out of sight. If you're comfortable, go on up to the door.
There'll probably be a buzzer next to the door; press it and wait to be let in. Once you're in, someone (possibly an older "mamasan," or the girl who'll be giving you your massage) will ask you to pay the house fee. This is usually $60-80. She'll probably ask if you've been there before. I've always just been honest, and it's never resulted in a disappointing experience, so that's what I'd recommend you do. You'll be led to a private room and told to get comfortable. The girl will leave, and this is your cue to take your clothes off. If you've been offered a shower (and if you are, accept the offer) , the girl will be back to lead you to the shower room. If not, just lie face-down on the massage table.
Most places will offer you a shower (or "table shower") , which you should absolutely agree to, even if you're clean. You might see a robe hanging nearby, or otherwise there will be towels. Cover yourself and wait for the girl to return. She'll take you to a shower stall with a rubber-padded table. Uncover yourself and lie face-down after the girl pours some warm water over the table. She'll wash you with soap and rinse you off, on both sides. She may flirt with you or tease you, so be pleasant and respond kindly to her attention. If you're lucky, you'll get a glimpse of what's to come!
When you're done on both sides, stand up and hold your arms out to either side while she dries you off. Then she'll wrap the towel around your waist and — if they have one — ask if you want to sit in the sauna. Your choice, but I've always figured, why not. After she comes back and leads you to the massage room, take off your towel and lie face-down on the table. She may ask you what kind of massage you want (light, medium, or hard pressure, etc.) , but it doesn't really matter. You can really only expect a so-so massage, so I'll usually just say medium if she asks at all (and she probably won't, actually). She'll massage your shoulders and back, and work her way down, and this is usually pretty relaxing if not therapeutic. She may tease you a little too, so just enjoy it.
When she's done with your back, she'll ask you to flip over, and she may massage your chest for a minute before asking what you want to do next. This is when you tell her what you came for. Remember all that research you did? You should know what you can and can't get and how much it costs. If not, just say what you want (or gesture, if her English isn't good) , and she'll let you know if it's available. She may want her tip before doing anything, but I wouldn't offer it until she asks. A good provider knows what you came for and that you don't plan on stiffing her (well, not that way anyway) , and if you've been a good customer so far she'll probably just wait and let you tip her when all's said and done. (This is not always the case, however; some of these girls are simply not good providers. That's why you try to weed out the bad ones by researching first.)
Once you understand each other, she'll leave the room for a minute (to get "something") , come back, and get undressed. I'll leave this part to your imagination. Don't expect anything you aren't offered. Don't be too demanding. If you ask and she says she won't do it, drop it. It was your job to know what you could get before you came. If you ask for something you know is usually provided and she won't do it, it's probably just because you're a new customer, and she may not be comfortable doing certain things with new customers. Again, don't press the issue. Maybe just ask,"How about next time?" or say,"You sure? I'm a real good tipper." But if the answer is still no, leave it at that. I can't stress this enough: treat her with as much respect as you would any other girl. And yes, you absolutely must wear protection.
After the grand finale, she'll clean you off and may massage you a little more. She'll let you know when she's done, and now is the time to tip if you haven't already. She'll probably count it in front of you, and she may ask you for more. If you know you've given her the standard rate, be firm; she may be trying to take advantage of your inexperience. Then again, if you've followed my advice so far she'll probably assume you know what the deal is, and she won't try to milk you any more than she already has (get it?). Of course, if she went above and beyond — extra time, offered nonstandard "extras" (GFE) — you may want to give her a little extra.
Hopefully this is enough information to get you started. For more tips, reviews, and general hobbying information, check out the following sites:
Does anybody have advice / tips for a newbie? I'm going to visit a mp today for the first time, don't know which one yet, and also what is some of the mp basic etiquette I should know? Any help would be appreciated.
You should do some googling and search forums within this site and possibly others. There are some resources for first-timers out there. Not sure if anyone wants to write an essay to cover all the possible scenarios. Using google, I found this on another site. FS is not too common at MPs in GR, I think. But in general, consider this:
When I first learned about massage parlors and what could be had behind those blacked-out windows, I scoured the Internet for information. I wanted to know exactly what to do and say — down to the last detail — to ensure a good time. I found some good information, but I didn't find exactly what I was looking for: a step-by-step guide to that first massage parlor visit. Hopefully this will help someone who was in my position to be a little more relaxed that first time.
(Note: The following is hypothetical and for informational purposes only. It is not based on any actual experience, and I do not advocate or encourage illegal activity of any sort.)
First, do your research. You should know what you want, and pick a place that'll give it to you. Find out everything you can about the place: when it's open, whether you should call for an appointment, how many girls are on staff, how do the girls rate (based on appearance, age, service) , do they offer what you want (HJ, FS, etc.) , what is the standard rate (house fee plus tip) , and so on. If you ask me, the right place is worth a bit of a drive, so don't limit your search to any particular area. (I'll list at the end of this article some good sources of information for starting your research.)
Now you've picked your place and you're ready to go. Before leaving, make sure you're clean — you're much more likely to have a good time if the girl isn't repulsed by your B. O. Or bad breath. If you smoke or drink a lot of coffee, take a breath mint with you. Bring only the money you plan to spend, and it's probably a good idea to leave any credit cards or identifying information (except for your driver's license) at home. You may opt to leave this stuff in your car once you get to the place, but consider the area you'll be in. If it's in a seedy part of town (which it is likely to be) , you might not want that stuff in your car either.
Once you've arrived, you'll want to go inside. Wait! Look around for anything suspicious. If there are people hanging around, wait for them to leave. Anything that makes you feel uneasy is a good enough reason to bail. Not only do you need to be mindful of law enforcement, but it's not uncommon for massage parlor patrons to be mugged; after all, they probably won't call the police. Also, be considerate of other hobbyists. If you see someone walk in, wait a few minutes before going up, to give him time to get out of sight. If you're comfortable, go on up to the door.
There'll probably be a buzzer next to the door; press it and wait to be let in. Once you're in, someone (possibly an older "mamasan," or the girl who'll be giving you your massage) will ask you to pay the house fee. This is usually $60-80. She'll probably ask if you've been there before. I've always just been honest, and it's never resulted in a disappointing experience, so that's what I'd recommend you do. You'll be led to a private room and told to get comfortable. The girl will leave, and this is your cue to take your clothes off. If you've been offered a shower (and if you are, accept the offer) , the girl will be back to lead you to the shower room. If not, just lie face-down on the massage table.
Most places will offer you a shower (or "table shower") , which you should absolutely agree to, even if you're clean. You might see a robe hanging nearby, or otherwise there will be towels. Cover yourself and wait for the girl to return. She'll take you to a shower stall with a rubber-padded table. Uncover yourself and lie face-down after the girl pours some warm water over the table. She'll wash you with soap and rinse you off, on both sides. She may flirt with you or tease you, so be pleasant and respond kindly to her attention. If you're lucky, you'll get a glimpse of what's to come!
When you're done on both sides, stand up and hold your arms out to either side while she dries you off. Then she'll wrap the towel around your waist and — if they have one — ask if you want to sit in the sauna. Your choice, but I've always figured, why not. After she comes back and leads you to the massage room, take off your towel and lie face-down on the table. She may ask you what kind of massage you want (light, medium, or hard pressure, etc.) , but it doesn't really matter. You can really only expect a so-so massage, so I'll usually just say medium if she asks at all (and she probably won't, actually). She'll massage your shoulders and back, and work her way down, and this is usually pretty relaxing if not therapeutic. She may tease you a little too, so just enjoy it.
When she's done with your back, she'll ask you to flip over, and she may massage your chest for a minute before asking what you want to do next. This is when you tell her what you came for. Remember all that research you did? You should know what you can and can't get and how much it costs. If not, just say what you want (or gesture, if her English isn't good) , and she'll let you know if it's available. She may want her tip before doing anything, but I wouldn't offer it until she asks. A good provider knows what you came for and that you don't plan on stiffing her (well, not that way anyway) , and if you've been a good customer so far she'll probably just wait and let you tip her when all's said and done. (This is not always the case, however; some of these girls are simply not good providers. That's why you try to weed out the bad ones by researching first.)
Once you understand each other, she'll leave the room for a minute (to get "something") , come back, and get undressed. I'll leave this part to your imagination. Don't expect anything you aren't offered. Don't be too demanding. If you ask and she says she won't do it, drop it. It was your job to know what you could get before you came. If you ask for something you know is usually provided and she won't do it, it's probably just because you're a new customer, and she may not be comfortable doing certain things with new customers. Again, don't press the issue. Maybe just ask,"How about next time?" or say,"You sure? I'm a real good tipper." But if the answer is still no, leave it at that. I can't stress this enough: treat her with as much respect as you would any other girl. And yes, you absolutely must wear protection.
After the grand finale, she'll clean you off and may massage you a little more. She'll let you know when she's done, and now is the time to tip if you haven't already. She'll probably count it in front of you, and she may ask you for more. If you know you've given her the standard rate, be firm; she may be trying to take advantage of your inexperience. Then again, if you've followed my advice so far she'll probably assume you know what the deal is, and she won't try to milk you any more than she already has (get it?). Of course, if she went above and beyond — extra time, offered nonstandard "extras" (GFE) — you may want to give her a little extra.
Hopefully this is enough information to get you started. For more tips, reviews, and general hobbying information, check out the following sites:Thanks for your info, it was helpful, I had a pleasurable experience, and will definitely be trying this again.
Moonglow913
01-20-13, 13:57
Thanks for your info, it was helpful, I had a pleasurable experience, and will definitely be trying this again.TB's has outlined a useful and general approach one can always take with most AMP (especially about doing your research and having a good idea about what's what going in). One other suggestion you might want to try (at least it has worked for me). Just be direct and up front from the beginning what you are there for. Always be polite and respectful and have money out where they can see it. Make it clear you are no cop, flirt and if possible, get them to laugh (don't know why but specially with the Asian babes this seems to put them at ease). I am also sure it doesn't hurt that I'm older and doubt anyone would confuse me with LE. I have a "playful", nonthreatening manner and understand the Asian culture. Anyway, by establishing what we are there for it avoids all the BS and can start things off right from the start (I. E. Shower room. I've had sessions where we never got off the table. LOL). Lets face it. I am not there for the lame massage so why play the game. Sometimes a great massage and "extras" are exactly what I seek. But then that is a whole different quest and set of rules.
Member #5710
01-21-13, 09:35
You covered all of that very well. I remember a massage place that I liked to go to when I was in Missouri working at a customer's facility. The place was on the northern outskirts of Columbia. Things there always went to the way you described with the exception that I always got an awesome massage including the girl doing a back walking massage. I have to say, there is nothing better than having someone experienced do a back walking massage.
Long time first time guys big fan. Have been goin to east west regularly for some time now. Went today got more than I ever have before pm me for details seniors also know alot of the names of the to go along with the faces not all though cause the turnover is pretty high there. Like I said seniors give me a shout happy to help where I can stay safe boys.Have you ever seen Alma there. Pretty good looking Mexican. Is she good?
I have not returned in some time now. I had two visits with Alma which were terrific. However, our forum and posts of the experience has tightened things up there. I think if you get [i]any[/] he you've done good. [i]If[/] any extras are available I would keep them off the open board and bring them to pm.What was your experience like with Alma. HJ or more?
Hey I'm new to this whole scene, had my first massage and it was okay, just wondering for the money, is it better to go with escort services or a BP provider, looking to get the best bang for my buck? Any info would be appreciated, sorry I'm a newbie just trying to learn and not get ripped off or leave unsatisfied.
ChicagoSouth
01-21-13, 15:15
I thinking checking wonder for the first time.
Are there opions than a HJ can you get BBBJ or FS there.
And who do I see there?
TwistedBrother
01-21-13, 16:37
Another good place for general guide info is AMP guide dot net."Randy" does a good job of spelling it out.
I thinking checking wonder for the first time.
Are there opions than a HJ can you get BBBJ or FS there.
And who do I see there?I've been talking about Wonder and a black girl there who goes by "Rhonda." I found out her name Sunday when I went there about 1:00. She wasn't there. Some not-so-attractive older Oriental lady thought she had me. Wrong. I saw a little cutie oriental named Chrissy. I chose her .60 upfront, in the back I went and got comfortable. She came and said "I no want tip I want to make you happy."
A wonderful "tease me" massage started, then came the flip. My soldier was paying attention with the pen and some extremely angry oriental guy was screaming at the top of his lungs."SO THIS HOW YU DU MASSAGEE. I go call poleecee now. Ya got to picture this. Here I lay with my junk in her hands and my hands in her pants. Yiie! My poor soldier who doesn't see active duty near enough immediately went A. W. O. L. I just laid there scared to death! I don't know what the two ladies told him, but I think he left. I got up and put my clothes on and peeked out the door as Chrissy was coming back apologizing."This never happen before. Yu want to see other lady? She finish for me." I said no and went to my car. I thoght about it and went back in to get my 60. She was coming out 40 in hand, I didn't argue. As I was getting in my car she said "Yu come back tomorrow I make it up to yu." I said What about now? She said "I cannot do. Come back tomorrow." I said I don't think so and got the f. outa there. I think I'm lucky to be outa there in one piece with my junk still attached!
Whatwas your experience like with Alma. HJ or more?My last visit she did no extras. She read the posts here on the forum and stopped extras.
Hello this is Sidney I just want everyone to know that unfortunately someone was mistaken and thought that I offered FS. I just want everyone too know that I never have and never will offer FS. I just want everyone to know this so they do not come to my job thinking that is offered. Thank you have a wonderful day.
Have you ever seen Alma there. Pretty good looking Mexican. Is she good?Has anyone else seen Alma I would like to see her but would like more info. New to this, thank you.
I thinking checking wonder for the first time.
Are there opions than a HJ can you get BBBJ or FS there.
And who do I see there?Went to wonder few weeks ago East Beltline topless seen her again had ask her if she does any other services and she offered BBBJ for a price was well earn left satisfied. On my second visit seen two beautiful ladies would diffinently be returning.
Hey all,
I'm no longer at Wonder Massage so please come visit me at 6XXX 28th st.
Hope to see you soon!
Paige
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Has anyone else seen Alma I would like to see her but would like more info. New to this, thank you.I am wondering if anyone else has seen Alma at East West. I would like to try her. My first time so if you have any info I would appreciate it.
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Hello this is Sidney I just want everyone to know that unfortunately someone was mistaken and thought that I offered FS. I just want everyone too know that I never have and never will offer FS. I just want everyone to know this so they do not come to my job thinking that is offered. Thank you have a wonderful day.Hi Sydney,
Wish I had gotten a chance at your FS before you stopped them.
Cindy: Went to wonder few weeks ago East Beltline topless seen her again had ask her if she does any other services and she offered BBBJ for a price was well earn left satisfied. On my second visit seen two beautiful ladies would diffinently be returning.
Has anyone else seen Alma I would like to see her but would like more info. New to this, thank you.I have given you all the info there is on her.
ChicagoSouth
01-23-13, 11:08
Went and saw Mikki.
She is the best nice maasage great shower.
And the BBBJCIM was great we frenched right after that it was great.
And the DATY was super.
TwistedBrother
01-23-13, 13:29
First, why are you posting this in Grand Rapids? This is Lansing. Also, I wasn't crazy about the "frenched right after that" part, but maybe that's just me. Nothing technically wrong with enjoying your own baby batter, I guess.
Went and saw Mikki.
She is the best nice maasage great shower.
And the BBBJCIM was great we frenched right after that it was great.
And the DATY was super.
enjoying your own baby batter.LMAO! I have to agree with you. I don't want to taste my own stuff either.
Went and saw Mikki.
She is the best nice maasage great shower.
And the BBBJCIM was great we frenched right after that it was great.
And the DATY was super.I'm missing something, Where is Mikki? I don't know "The Islands."
ChicagoSouth
01-24-13, 10:23
LMAO! I have to agree with you. I don't want to taste my own stuff either.What about when you do the DATY and you do not think, that you getting any back was from them?
ChicagoSouth
01-24-13, 11:36
I'm missing something, Where is Mikki? I don't know "The Islands."Its in Lansing.
TwistedBrother
01-24-13, 11:42
"The Islands" is what we call Hawaii Spa, which is outside of Lansing (Potterville area, off I-69). Like I said, doesn't belong in GR forum. Mikki is a legendary provider we are very fortunate to have there. She's at least in her 50s, but has a great little bod for that age and has a porn star mentality, getting rave reviews from almost everyone. Pretty sure there's not a better AMP provider in the Great Lakes/Midwest and she's one of the best in the country for sure.
I'm missing something, Where is Mikki? I don't know "The Islands."
I'm missing something, Where is Mikki? I don't know "The Islands."Mikki is at an AMP in Lansing. Hawaii Spa, but we call it the "Island."
She has sextrillion good reports of services beyond anything you'll ever experience in any other MP. All good BTW.
Went to East West Yesterday. Saw a girl named Delsi Not bad looking. HE was good. Does anyone have any info on anyone else there?
BigGuyFromFort
01-25-13, 16:13
Third time to Panacea. First time was last summer when it was one of those really hot days, was dissapointed. Second time was Halloween and saw Trista; OK all around but no wow factor. Went back today and saw Natasha; all I can say is wow. I read reports on here and I can say everyone of them is 100% accurate. Great time and is a must see if you are into massage. Best massage experience to date.
Looks: 9.
Massage: don't remember much of a massage, but will give her an 8 for what I did remember.
Attitude: 11.
Finish: 9.
My new favorite spot; going back for a duo soon!
Went to East West Yesterday. Saw a girl named Delsi Not bad looking. HE was good. Does anyone have any info on anyone else there?Was there last week and saw Sandy she offered BBBJ.
The Scroller
01-28-13, 13:33
My Saturday dream.
After stopping at Panacea and finding Natasha was not working that day (I will try again later as I have heard good things) I went back to Wonder.
Last week I read a review about a colored girl at Wonder that left a great impression. My experience backs that up. I saw Ronda and not long into the massage she said her goal was to make her my new favorite. I think I am in love.
Not only did she give a great massage that actually relaxed my body but she really knew her way around. I mean she REALLY knew her way around. By the time the session was over I was ready to take her home and make a somewhat honest woman out of her. Closest thing I have ever had to a GFE without sex.
Highly recommended. Please treat her right as I am feeling protective of her now that we are in love.
LOL
Visited today. Saw Megan. Great lady very soft touch an excellent HE. As a newbie highly recommend.
Saw KC tonight was the best I have had she had a great touch and took her time when it counted I will be going back to see her soon.
TwistedBrother
01-29-13, 01:50
A "colored girl" ... ?? Really?? I realize racial language is kind of beyond the point of the forum. I realize there's worse things a guy can say, but for a lot of us that harkens back to times of slavery or at least pre-Civil Rights era. I feel like that term is potentially offensive enough to enough people (myself included) on our forum that I'd appreciate your consideration of something else, whether it's African American or black. Thanks.
My Saturday dream.
After stopping at Panacea and finding Natasha was not working that day (I will try again later as I have heard good things) I went back to Wonder.
Last week I read a review about a colored girl at Wonder that left a great impression. My experience backs that up. I saw Ronda and not long into the massage she said her goal was to make her my new favorite. I think I am in love.
Not only did she give a great massage that actually relaxed my body but she really knew her way around. I mean she REALLY knew her way around. By the time the session was over I was ready to take her home and make a somewhat honest woman out of her. Closest thing I have ever had to a GFE without sex.
Highly recommended. Please treat her right as I am feeling protective of her now that we are in love.
LOL
The Scroller
01-29-13, 08:47
Well, if you are an African-American then I am sorry I offended you. I suppose I could use "black" if its less offensive. Offense was not my intent and the rest of my review should have been proof of that.
My Saturday dream.
Please treat her right as I am feeling protective of her now that we are in love.
LOLTake it from me, do NOT fall in love with any provider. I made that mistake and have had my heart broke just recently.
Has anyone been there I haven't check it out yet I looking for good place to go tomorrow
Shoeless1951
02-04-13, 14:09
Has anyone been there I haven't check it out yet I looking for good place to go tomorrowI have not been there as of yet, but I would imagine that it would be the same type of experience that you would have at Jennifer's other 2 places (Royal & Oasis). Yet us know how things work out for you.
Jeff Mcthrustr
02-04-13, 19:50
Are there any attractive girls at East West to recommend? I went there once and it must have been a bad day because dreamed that I got service from a fat white chick who albeit did a fine job, I prefer women of a less corpulent persuasion. Maybe I shouldn't eat before I go to bed so I can have better dreams.
I wish the NAACP would stop being the NAACP and get with the times.
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A "colored girl" ... ?? Really?? I realize racial language is kind of beyond the point of the forum. I realize there's worse things a guy can say, but for a lot of us that harkens back to times of slavery or at least pre-Civil Rights era. I feel like that term is potentially offensive enough to enough people (myself included) on our forum that I'd appreciate your consideration of something else, whether it's African American or black. Thanks.""
TwistedBrother
02-04-13, 22:29
Point was made, and responded to. I'm going to leave it at that and the rest of us should, too, lest we stray from the purpose of this board.
I wish the NAACP would stop being the NAACP and get with the times.
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A "colored girl". ? Really? I realize racial language is kind of beyond the point of the forum. I realize there's worse things a guy can say, but for a lot of us that harkens back to times of slavery or at least pre-Civil Rights era. I feel like that term is potentially offensive enough to enough people (myself included) on our forum that I'd appreciate your consideration of something else, whether it's African American or black. Thanks.""
GrrrrMonger
02-04-13, 23:16
Has anyone been there I haven't check it out yet I looking for good place to go tomorrowI've been there a couple times and it's the same ownership as Oasis and Royal. The rooms are very nice, and there's a sauna and shower available. As mentioned in previous reviews Jennifer gives a nice sensual massage, with good technique on both sides.
I just came from there Ronda very friendly will repeat going bring the wife next time.
TwistedBrother
02-05-13, 18:03
Will look forward to THAT report! I've been wanting to talk my fiancee into something similar.
I just came from there Ronda very friendly will repeat going bring the wife next time.
Moonglow913
02-05-13, 18:31
Will look forward to THAT report! I've been wanting to talk my fiancee into something similar.OK guys. Exactly how does that work? Are we talking about more than massage? More than one MP? I have had couples massages but never at a place like Wonder. I can see it now. My wife is blissfully relaxing under the expert hands of a skilled masseur when she turns her head just in time to see me unloading into the mouth of Ronda. Just saying.
Nwoutsider
02-05-13, 20:14
I just came from there Ronda very friendly will repeat going bring the wife next time.My wife has always wanted to go with me and watch. I've been told at a few places (Esquire, Pacific, etc.) that women weren't allowed. We will definitely be stopping by Paradise now! Maybe I'll be able to get her a side job there while we're at it.
I just had a normal massage and when I took the wife nothing crazy happen Ronda a very nice careing person.
Jeff Mcthrustr
02-06-13, 17:44
I've been there a couple times and it's the same ownership as Oasis and Royal. The rooms are very nice, and there's a sauna and shower available. As mentioned in previous reviews Jennifer gives a nice sensual massage, with good technique on both sides.Has she learned to put her damn phone down? Every time I think about wanting to visit her, I have to remind myself that in the past, she was always taking calls during our session and killing the mood!
GrrrrMonger
02-06-13, 23:19
Has she learned to put her damn phone down? Every time I think about wanting to visit her, I have to remind myself that in the past, she was always taking calls during our session and killing the mood!I suspect she'll be less distracted at the new location than at Royal, but I'm just guessing.
Went there the other day, had a lady named Mariah (not the same mariah as was there a couple of years ago). Looks were sort of average, not something I would be look at twice at a bar. Massage was decent, standard topless HE ending. No other services available. Would probably not repeat with her, while services were ok it wasn't over the top or a great looking babe, so for my $100 I'd prefer to go elsewhere to either get a bit more or have a hot babe touching me.
I saw a little bit of an overweight black lady, is that Ronda (I've had Ronda quite a few months ago and couldn't quite remember what she looked like, I didn't remember her being that chubby)?
FastHustler
02-07-13, 09:14
I have to say she is my favorite for a great massage! I have been to all the places in GR, (some legit ones too) , Battle Creek and had several massages from BP girls but she is by far the best at giving a great massage. Its too bad she will be taking a few months off I will have to find someone else for a while. If you have not seen her you should I will be seeing her a little more till she takes a few months off.
Moonglow913
02-07-13, 11:00
I just had a normal massage and when I took the wife nothing crazy happen Ronda a very nice careing person.But crazy things do (can) happen at Wonder right? You are the third person mentioning taking their wife. Interesting.
TwistedBrother
02-07-13, 13:05
Aw, dude, way to get us all worked up and then the big letdown!
I just had a normal massage and when I took the wife nothing crazy happen Ronda a very nice careing person.
Hockey1121
02-08-13, 01:02
I'm new at this massage HE, really interested in going and taking my girlfriend to watch. Where is a great place in or near Grand Rapids that this is possible?
I'm new at this massage HE, really interested in going and taking my girlfriend to watch. Where is a great place in or near Grand Rapids that this is possible?RTFF. Seriously? It is possible at all of them.
RTFF. Seriously? It is possible at all of them.I would personally have no interest in having a gf present. But are you saying that having a wife or or girl friend spectator is typically on the menu at most of the parlors? I have RTFF and really never picked up on this as being standard fare. HE everywhere for sure. But no spectators. Maybe I misunderstood your post. Thanks for your informative reports. This and previous.
I would personally have no interest in having a gf present. But are you saying that having a wife or or girl friend spectator is typically on the menu at most of the parlors? I have RTFF and really never picked up on this as being standard fare. HE everywhere for sure. But no spectators. Maybe I misunderstood your post. Thanks for your informative reports. This and previous.I think he's saying that you can get almost anything you want if you are willing to pay for it. You can bring your wife or girlfriend and have them watch whatever with a prostitute if you want too. I'm not sure why anyone would want to bring their wife to a massage parlor and have them watch you get a massage but there's no reason why you couldn't. I agree that almost any massage place would let you do that, it just seems really odd though.
I think he's saying that you can get almost anything you want if you are willing to pay for it. You can bring your wife or girlfriend and have them watch whatever with a prostitute if you want too. I'm not sure why anyone would want to bring their wife to a massage parlor and have them watch you get a massage but there's no reason why you couldn't. I agree that almost any massage place would let you do that, it just seems really odd though.Thanks for the clarification & perspective. I imagine you and Donntee have it right. I just wouldn't have thought of this and never really picked up on in this forum until the past several days.
Jeff Mcthrustr
02-10-13, 20:42
I have to say she is my favorite for a great massage! I have been to all the places in GR, (some legit ones too) , Battle Creek and had several massages from BP girls but she is by far the best at giving a great massage. Its too bad she will be taking a few months off I will have to find someone else for a while. If you have not seen her you should I will be seeing her a little more till she takes a few months off.Does she work out of one of the parlors or does she work out of her home?
Hockey1121
02-10-13, 20:56
I would personally have no interest in having a gf present. But are you saying that having a wife or or girl friend spectator is typically on the menu at most of the parlors? I have RTFF and really never picked up on this as being standard fare. HE everywhere for sure. But no spectators. Maybe I misunderstood your post. Thanks for your informative reports. This and previous.Well my gf is into that kinda thing- watching, joining and 3s. I'm sorry you don't want to bring your wife / gf but she probably has no idea you even go.
FineByMe72
02-13-13, 18:55
Ok, so I went to Healthy Habits last week and saw Paige. The massage was awesome (one of the best in town) but I didn't get the sense there were any extras on the menu. But someone named Paige posted here over the summer indicating she left Wonder to go there. So what gives? Did anyone see Paige at Wonder? The Paige I saw was an attractive blond with a slender build. Are they the same? Her quality of massage is worth the premium (there are certainly good quality massages to be had for less than $60 an hour) but I'm wondering if more is to be had. She would be perfect if there was. Any one else have a different experience?
Ok, so I went to Healthy Habits last week and saw Paige. The massage was awesome (one of the best in town) but I didn't get the sense there were any extras on the menu. But someone named Paige posted here over the summer indicating she left Wonder to go there. So what gives? Did anyone see Paige at Wonder? The Paige I saw was an attractive blond with a slender build. Are they the same? Her quality of massage is worth the premium (there are certainly good quality massages to be had for less than $60 an hour) but I'm wondering if more is to be had. She would be perfect if there was. Any one else have a different experience?They seem to be laying quite low at Healthy Habits. I don't know if extras are actively discouraged, but they certainly aren't as obvious and expected as at some of the more well-established MP's in the area. It might have something to do with LE jurisdiction in that area?
Be safe
Nothing new to report on Pacific on 44th except another great experience. This time I saw Heidi. Much better than last time with Holly. Massage was very good and h.e. was fantastic. I love the discretion & location of Pacific but wish the girls were a little more open to getting more comfortable during the massage. Plus, I love the pay up front and no tipping in the room policy. No upsell whatsoever. You know the going rate, pay it without the hassle!
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02-15-13, 00:02
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Nothing new to report on Pacific on 44th except another great experience. This time I saw Heidi. Much better than last time with Holly. Massage was very good and h.e. was fantastic. I love the discretion & location of Pacific but wish the girls were a little more open to getting more comfortable during the massage. Plus, I love the pay up front and no tipping in the room policy. No upsell whatsoever. You know the going rate, pay it without the hassle!Um, I tip every time in the room, and there have been levels of comfort achieved for my efforts. A tip is absolutely expected in that situation, and it's done in the room. The policy is so much white wash.
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Um, I tip every time in the room, and there have been levels of comfort achieved for my efforts. A tip is absolutely expected in that situation, and it's done in the room. The policy is so much white wash.Interesting. While I was waiting in the room I noticed the sign that said no tipping in the room, and I asked during the massage if the top could come off and was told no. But, you give me reason to go back for another try (not like I really needed one, LOL)!
Thanks
Interesting. While I was waiting in the room I noticed the sign that said no tipping in the room, and I asked during the massage if the top could come off and was told no. But, you give me reason to go back for another try (not like I really needed one, LOL)!
ThanksI would agree. I'm not even sure why they would attempt to stipulate no in-room tipping. It's not like the mamasan ever grabs and counts the money as you leave. I have always tipped in the room as well. In some establishments such as Hawaii, it is the rule.
Trifecta33
02-16-13, 11:49
Are there any places in Grand Rapids that offer shower services and not just a shower that you can use after?
Are there any places in Grand Rapids that offer shower services and not just a shower that you can use after?Rainbow. The next closest that I know of is LA Spa in Portland.
Scott Lee 44
02-16-13, 14:02
Are there any places in Grand Rapids that offer shower services and not just a shower that you can use after?I'm pretty sure Massage Paradise on 28th st has both shower and sauna available.
Are there any places in Grand Rapids that offer shower services and not just a shower that you can use after?Oasis, Pacific and Royal.
Are there any places in Grand Rapids that offer shower services and not just a shower that you can use after?I am assuming you meant table shower services. If that is true, correct me if I am wrong, but only Rainbow has a table shower in this area.
TwistedBrother
02-17-13, 12:37
Last I knew, LA Spa did have standup shower, but has never had table shower.
Rainbow. The next closest that I know of is LA Spa in Portland.
Last I knew, LA Spa did have standup shower, but has never had table shower.That's correct, I forgot. But they do "assist" with your shower. Sun Spa in Michigan City, IN has a table shower. I have batted. 500 there re: having an elderly provider vs. Young and hot.
Saw Sandy at East West Therapy. Very good light touch massage with great extras! Highly recommend.
Jeff Mcthrustr
02-18-13, 20:22
Are there any places in Grand Rapids that offer shower services and not just a shower that you can use after?Esquire has a standard upright shower in each room, but you have to wash yourself up before the session. Don't waste your time with Rainbow. There's no good time to be had there.
Need to agree Pingman. Sandy is one of my favorites.
Scott Lee 44
02-18-13, 21:33
Saw Sandy at East West Therapy. Very good light touch massage with great extras! Highly recommend.I see East West has a new photo of 10 ladies in their ad on CL. Could you tell us which one is Sandy?
In the craigslist add from Saturday (2-16) I believe Sandy is top left. However, in the BP add from Monday (2-18) I see she is not pictured. I hope she is still there! I have heard only good things about Sandy!
I see East West has a new photo of 10 ladies in their ad on CL. Could you tell us which one is Sandy?
Trifecta33
02-19-13, 09:22
Thanks to everyone for the info. I appreciate the help, from the sounds of it, there's not too much to be had in Grand Rapids that route. The one place everyone seems to agree on is Rainbow, but some say there's nothing to be had there really. The other locations I've already inquired about other than Esquire which is way overpriced in my opinion. Thanks to all.
In the craigslist add from Saturday (2-16) I believe Sandy is top left. However, in the BP add from Monday (2-18) I see she is not pictured. I hope she is still there! I have heard only good things about Sandy!I'm looking at the 2/16 CL ad and 7 out of the 10 look attractive to me. Are extras to be had by all or is it hit or miss?
Cal
Nothing new to report. Visited on Monday. First Natasha experience. Wow. Totally gorgeous. Very nice shape. I was smitten.
PortInAStorm
02-21-13, 00:19
I haven't been able to partake of the gr massage scene for almost ten years now, glad to see there are so many new places and I am already planning a trip to your city this spring. When I used to visit gr the only places there were Rainbow and Esquiree. Esquiree was always just a rub and tug with a stand up solo shower, rainbow had table shower and a larger menu but as I said its been "long time."
I had some 100 to spend so I thaught I try something new I wanted to meet Summer on 36th street but I guess 37 yrs old is too young for her. Even tho my 100 bills were 45 yr old. Anyway I read a bunch of crap on this Lola. Some one has been saying shes a man but I am here to say she is not at all. If you want a cool black chick to show you a good time call her I will be seeing her again.
I seen her yesterday after I wanted to see Summer but she said 37 year old is too young so I took my 100.00 over to Lola and she took good care of me. I will repeat.
Had a great time with my 3rd girl at Panacea. Molly. I had heard some not so stellar things about her, but I got to say that I was pleasantly surprised. She was very much into the massage and was a very good conversationalist. On the flip, she went topless and got her chest into it, which really turned me on. Total damage for the hr session was $. We never spoke about the tip, though which I also appreciated. I have yet to try Natasha, but she is on my list. There was also a shorter brunette who looked extremely appealing. I didn't catch her name, though.
Have a safe one!
In the craigslist add from Saturday (2-16) I believe Sandy is top left. However, in the BP add from Monday (2-18) I see she is not pictured. I hope she is still there! I have heard only good things about Sandy!Yes. She is still there.
I had some 100 to spend so I thaught I try something new I wanted to meet Summer on 36th street but I guess 37 yrs old is too young for her. Even tho my 100 bills were 45 yr old. Anyway I read a bunch of crap on this Lola. Some one has been saying shes a man but I am here to say she is not at all. If you want a cool black chick to show you a good time call her I will be seeing her again.What services did she provide?
LetsHavFun1551
02-22-13, 09:17
Several visits to Panacea over the past 6 mos. Or so and if I were to rank my favorites, I would say 1) Jessica 2) Karmen 3) Trista 4) Katie Unfortunately, my top 3 are no longer there. May have to visit Natasha or Molly based on good reviews. I prefer slim & sensual over the BBW type.
Overall, I have two major disappointments with Panacea. Seems like all of the girls have a little sagging / stretch marks from pregnancy. Maybe this is typical, but maybe there is someone out there working who has a tighter middle? Also, the menu is very small / standard. My early experiences were with Mikki & Sandy over near Lansing, so maybe that gave me too high of an expectation, but if anyone knows of the next best thing, I would greatly appreciate it.
Jeff Mcthrustr
02-22-13, 21:11
In the craigslist add from Saturday (2-16) I believe Sandy is top left. However, in the BP add from Monday (2-18) I see she is not pictured. I hope she is still there! I have heard only good things about Sandy!I'm going by the ad that's posted today. Is Sandy the fat blonde? I know one girl in the ad that won't show you a good time and that's the third girl (from left to right) in the second row. She seemed bored the whole time and she draped me on the flip! Is anyone else pictured worth checking out?
Decided to stray from Pacific & Panacea today to check out E / W. Like Pacific & Panacea, the location here is great. Out of sight parking & easy to get there. I pulled Brooke on "provider roulette" and was impressed. She's very petite, attractive & very easy to talk to. Massage was pleasant but not a lot of technique. Standard massage rates and two 20's for a tip including topless. HE was the only option,"absolutely nothing else". Brooke isn't one of the girls in the CL ad from today, but if you like petite, B cup, laid back massage provider. Call ahead to get her.
What services did she provide?Summer isn't black.
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Tried Royal on 44th for the first time.
Lindsey seemed to be the only one there.
Lindsey is fairly attractive and not super heavy. I pass on East-West mainly because I'm turned off by the heavier gals.
Lindsey gave a great massage. I'd say one of the best I ever had.
But on the flip though she ticked me off. Asked if I wanted massage in "that" area. I said sure.
She then asked how much of a tip was I going to spend. Being used to Pacific's all inclusive hour rate I usually only tip $20 for HE so I said that.
She got all offended and said she takes no less than $40. I said well never mind then. After a long pause she says well she'd take 20 now but next time its min. 40. I said "ok its up to you." Her attitude about asking for the tip was terrible. I expect that from a $20 SW but not in a AMP I just paid an hour for. I should have known better. Like a BP girl, if they give a discount get ready for terrible service. Worst attempt at HE I ever had in 15 years of hobbying. I tugged at her top trying to pull it below her tits and she waived that off saying I had to pay a lot for that. After 5mins of half-hearted work she said "forget this, were done" and walked to get me a cleanup towel. So now I'm blue balled too!
I'll never see her again for sure.
I do admit if you truly just want a massage only she gives a great one. But for HE forget it.
Saw Abby at Pacific on 44th. Good massage. A heads up on her. She will not ask about HE or even hint at it if she doesn't know you.
But if you ask she will do it. She expects a tip but is very subtle about it. Not pushy greedy sounding.
I usually assume HE at Pacific with no tip implied but I always leave 20 or more depnding on service afterward.
Decent HE. She said "you can touch if you want". Nice! I roamed all over, pulled her top up to her shoulders.
She even made very soft sounds while she worked. Seldom is that included in AMPs I've been to (LA+Hawaii don't count since the menu + price is higher). I left her 40 for the extra effort.
Am I off-base here on my tipping?
After years paying 20-30 for BBBJ to SW it hard to get in mind to pay the same for a HE.
Is $20 base too cheap?
Saw Abby at Pacific on 44th. Good massage. A heads up on her. She will not ask about HE or even hint at it if she doesn't know you.
But if you ask she will do it. She expects a tip but is very subtle about it. Not pushy greedy sounding.
I usually assume HE at Pacific with no tip implied but I always leave 20 or more depnding on service afterward.
Decent HE. She said "you can touch if you want". Nice! I roamed all over, pulled her top up to her shoulders.
She even made very soft sounds while she worked. Seldom is that included in AMPs I've been to (LA+Hawaii don't count since the menu + price is higher). I left her 40 for the extra effort.
Am I off-base here on my tipping?
After years paying 20-30 for BBBJ to SW it hard to get in mind to pay the same for a HE.
Is $20 base too cheap?It may be me, but I tend to do 30-40 depending on the service.
I saw Heidi there last night, and I asked for a deep massage, and boy did she deliver! I mean she got ALL my muscles on the back, and I was very very very grateful as I'd been fighting a cold recently and all my muscles were very fatigued. She was sooo tiny compared to me (I'm not a heifer but I'm a solid boxer build) and she had to crawl on top of me to get some areas, but she got all the cracks out, and the pressure and the soreness, and then the basic flip over, and she asked that I tip her in the room, and I told her I'd tip her at the papa'sans desk. I gave her $50 for the excellent massage and ok ending, mainly the massage is what I paid the tip for because it wasn't that light crap that most tend to do.
Good question!
I find myself wanting to use $20 as a general rule of thumb as well. I will tip $40 for a HE with some enthusiasm.
My experience as a whole is this based on services: Usually $40 at Panacia, $20 to $40 at EW, $20 at Pacific. I have only been asked for a specific amount at EW. Other times it was left up to me after the session.
Saw Abby at Pacific on 44th. Good massage. A heads up on her. She will not ask about HE or even hint at it if she doesn't know you.
But if you ask she will do it. She expects a tip but is very subtle about it. Not pushy greedy sounding.
I usually assume HE at Pacific with no tip implied but I always leave 20 or more depnding on service afterward.
Decent HE. She said "you can touch if you want". Nice! I roamed all over, pulled her top up to her shoulders.
She even made very soft sounds while she worked. Seldom is that included in AMPs I've been to (LA+Hawaii don't count since the menu + price is higher). I left her 40 for the extra effort.
Am I off-base here on my tipping?
After years paying 20-30 for BBBJ to SW it hard to get in mind to pay the same for a HE.
Is $20 base too cheap?
MsAlready2504
03-03-13, 02:10
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Nwoutsider
03-03-13, 08:33
Good question!
I find myself wanting to use $20 as a general rule of thumb as well. I will tip $40 for a HE with some enthusiasm.
My experience as a whole is this based on services: Usually $40 at Panacia, $20 to $40 at EW, $20 at Pacific. I have only been asked for a specific amount at EW. Other times it was left up to me after the session.That's one of the things that always bothered me most about EW (and honestly, BP girls too). Nothing kills the momentum of a nice massage like 5 minutes of negotiating a tip. And I always feel like I'm telling them "No, you aren't good enough for $40. Only $20," which usually leads to a terrible HE.
I usually just hit Panacea or Pacific because of the fact that the tip can be left at the desk. No negotiation. Just a nice, relaxing session.
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Sorry if I offended you / anyone by my comment on heavier women at EW. I stated it as politely as I could. I'm just not into the heavier gals.
Scott Lee 44
03-03-13, 18:46
I know that's Valerie from EW although I didn't see the post before it was deleted.
Sorry if I offended you / anyone by my comment on heavier women at EW. I stated it as politely as I could. I'm just not into the heavier gals.Actually Valerie is working out of her home in Wyoming now, at least she was the last time I saw her a few months back. She's still as sweet as ever!
I know that's Valerie from EW although I didn't see the post before it was deleted.
Sorry if I offended you / anyone by my comment on heavier women at EW. I stated it as politely as I could. I'm just not into the heavier gals.I'm with you on that issue. I like lean mean fighting machines. Well, maybe not mean.
Went to Panacea the other day. No appointment, walked in and Alyse worked on me! Great massage! On the flip her top was off and gave me a very enthusiastic HE! Will repeat.
ChicagoSouth
03-04-13, 17:05
I went to wonder today and saw Rondha she gave a great massage and on the flip was great took her top off and was able to get 2 pops both cob.
She ten cleam me up was very friendly easy going also will go back again and hopefully will be able to fet more opions I bet DATY would be great.
I have been traveling through GR a fair amount recently and have enjoyed a relaxing break at Panacea a number of times, all with positive experiences. However sometimes I'd like a place with a shower. I thought I'd try Pacific and wonder if any of you can offer a recommendation. I am a mature and generous tipper who enjoys fun with lots of contact. Am I headed to the right place? Any specfic providers to recommend? Any cautions? Thanks and I'll share the results with you all.
Called and made an appointment with Sandy at EW. Paid for the half hour. She is very enthusiastic and I had a great time. She is easy to talk to, and she wants to make sure you are well taken care of. On the flip she took her top off, and pulled her pants down to her knees. Let me suck on her wonderful tits, and FIV while she gave me a great rub down. I left happy, but wondering if I could have gotten even more. I'm wondering if she speaks French.
As I was leaving, I passed a really tall redhead. She was super cute. Anyone know anything about her?
I went to wonder today and saw Rondha she gave a great massage and on the flip was great took her top off and was able to get 2 pops both cob.
She ten cleam me up was very friendly easy going also will go back again and hopefully will be able to fet more opions I bet DATY would be great.Is this lady the sort of heavyset black lady?
ChicagoSouth
03-04-13, 22:18
Is this lady the sort of heavyset black lady?Yes it is she is very kool.
Scott Lee 44
03-05-13, 12:32
Yes it is she is very kool.I've seen her several times. She's a real sweetheart! One of the best imo.
KtheChickFkr
03-05-13, 14:27
I haven't posted before but I thought I'd do that now. I went to Panacea and had Natalie (I think that was her name). Saw and did a bit more than when I visited East-West so this would be my regular place for now.
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03-05-13, 19:19
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I have been traveling through GR a fair amount recently and have enjoyed a relaxing break at Panacea a number of times, all with positive experiences. However sometimes I'd like a place with a shower. I thought I'd try Pacific and wonder if any of you can offer a recommendation. I am a mature and generous tipper who enjoys fun with lots of contact. Am I headed to the right place? Any specfic providers to recommend? Any cautions? Thanks and I'll share the results with you all.Pacific on 44th has a shower.
Read my posts below.
Spent some time with Megan today, at Panacea. She is the self proclaimed "oldest" lady there, but she knows what she is doing. She gives a nice hard massage and gets you ready for the flip. She is very skilled and goes completely nude. I really enjoyed my time with her. I haven't spent time with Natasha yet, but I haven't had a bad experience at Panacea yet. They do have some new blood training, so we'll see how that sets up for the future.
Has anyone been to Massage Paradise on 28th Street? They are relatively new and I've heard nothing about them.
Also, E / W is nearer to my house, but Panacea gets all the rave reviews. I'm torn by convenience vs. Great expectations. Is there anyone at E / W you would recommend for someone who's never been there before? Name and description would be nice.
Has anyone been here? Any idea on mileage / quality?
Called and made an pointment with Sandy at EW. Paid for the half hour. She is very enthusiastic and I had a great time. She is easy to talk to, and she wants to make sure you are well taken care of. On the flip she took her top off, and pulled her pants down to her knees. Let me suck on her wonderful tits, and FIV while she gave me a great rub down. I left happy, but wondering if I could have gotten even more. I'm wondering if she speaks French.
As I was leaving, I passed a really tall redhead. She was super cute. Anyone know anything about her?I saw her once and had her do a BBBJCIM she is very nice but a little on the heavy side.
I saw her once and had her do a BBBJCIM she is very nice but a little on the heavy side.Are you referring to the tall red head (Sidney I think) or to Sandy. One is a bit heavier from the waste up and the other from the waste down.
Are you referring to the tall red head (Sidney I think) or to Sandy. One is a bit heavier from the waste up and the other from the waste down.EW. Sorry. Should be waist up, waist down. Not waste.
Just very legit and no extras.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-by-megan/10187882
I know "Sandy" is recommended But if she's not available who does anybody recommend?
Thanks
Ok, so I've been to E / W, Paneca, Pacific, Royal. I'm looking for the provider who will make me a regular!
Who's the best in GR with a good in-call, and great skills?
PM me if you like.
J
Are you referring to the tall red head (Sidney I think) or to Sandy. One is a bit heavier from the waste up and the other from the waste down.Sandy the thick girl.
I know "Sandy" is recommended But if she's not available who does anybody recommend?
ThanksYou might give "Anna" a try if you are looking for something similar. Saw her some time ago befor she was "Anna". Her massage is not very good, but she is rather striking. If quality of massage is your objective, Tina is very good. But no extras. Both Sandy and Anna are now advertizing on BP asking 150-hr. I have no interest at that rate, but both are good. Maybe they can get that much.
Saw Valerie a few days ago. She used to be at E / W, but is now working out of her home.
The Good: Very personable, open and friendly, without being overly chatty. Great massage, I opted for deep tissue and it was nice and firm. Very thorough. Just enough oil to make it smooth. Flip was great. I was actually expecting somewhat of a smaller bbw, based on reviews and was pleasantly surprised to find that she was not. Her place is fairly comfortable, she has a nice table. Price for the hour massage was quoted at $60.
Not so good: She is 8 months pregnant. Not really my thing although it didn't bother me. If you like that sort of thing, check her out! There are kids in the house. Not distracting for me, but others may find it unnerving.
Overall it was a good experience that I will probably repeat if she is still working after the child.
RushBlitzer
03-11-13, 17:46
Anyone had Sandy or Sidney's 150 massage appt? I used to see Sidney at Pancea curious what is on the menu for a $150 appt. I know what I would be expecting for that type of dough.
Pacific on 44th has a shower.
Read my posts below.Had a chance to visit Pacific. The facility rates a 10. Very clean, polite and comfortable. It was my first visit so I assume my menu was limited. Had a great massage from Heidi. However no top down and no reverse (I love doing that) but a good quality HE for my first visit. I'll give it a try again and see if the menu expands. If not, I'll return to Pancea. However I really appreciate a facility with showers.
Cheers
FastHustler
03-12-13, 08:34
Good luck with Heidi showing any skin she was a regular for me till I realized she was not showing any skin I tried again and again but no luck. She did do a good job but to many options out there that do as good of a job and show skin while doing it.
Had a chance to visit Pacific. The facility rates a 10. Very clean, polite and comfortable. It was my first visit so I assume my menu was limited. Had a great massage from Heidi. However no top down and no reverse (I love doing that) but a good quality HE for my first visit. I'll give it a try again and see if the menu expands. If not, I'll return to Pancea. However I really appreciate a facility with showers.
Cheers
FastHustler
03-12-13, 08:47
I saw Trista a few weeks back, I have been very busy but wanted to up load my report. I got my first massage from her when she was working at Pancera and it was a great massage. As she was walking around the table I thought for sure I seen she was not wearing any panties under her very short skirt.
On the flip sure enough I was right she wasn't and she had some hair on her kitty! In my younger days I loved a completely shaved pussy but now a little hair is nice, she let me touch her all over just told me not to insert my finger witch was since it was my first time with her I did what she asked. Now she is working on her own in a nice hotel room she quoted the same rates as anyone else $60 for the hour. She still gave a good massage on the flip she asked if I wanted her to take off her top well I sure do she was wearing some tight sweat pants so I asked her to take them down she said she would for but for $80 she said that normally she would charge more but today since she is on her own she would just charge $80.
Now I'm thinking a total of $80 not an additional $80 but at the end of the session she said it comes to $140. I said I thought you said $80 she apologized and said she meant an additional $80 but she would take $100. I told her ok. She asked If I would see her again before she delivered her baby and I told her yes. But I have to say I will not see her again she seems to think she needs to charge you more so she can pay for her room. (Oh I for got to mention when she took her sweats off she was wearing panties and it was not even a thong!)
Had a chance to visit Pacific. The facility rates a 10. Very clean, polite and comfortable. It was my first visit so I assume my menu was limited. Had a great massage from Heidi. However no top down and no reverse (I love doing that) but a good quality HE for my first visit. I'll give it a try again and see if the menu expands. If not, I'll return to Pancea. However I really appreciate a facility with showers.
CheersI had FS with Heidi maybe 1 year ago. Since then, no other reports of FS from her. It was at the 44th st. Location. My guess is that she will not expand the menu alot.
Good luck with Heidi showing any skin she was a regular for me till I realized she was not showing any skin I tried again and again but no luck. She did do a good job but to many options out there that do as good of a job and show skin while doing it.So is that just Heidi or are all of the Pacific gals that way? All three of my experiences at Panacea were more revealing. (BTW, Trista was great when I saw her at Panacea but was but very limiting about touching because of her condition.) What a dilemma: give Pacific another try and enjoy the showers or go back to Panacea. Just thinnking.
MsAlready2504
03-13-13, 07:04
Saw Valerie a few days ago. She used to be at E / W, but is now working out of her home.
The Good: Very personable, open and friendly, without being overly chatty. Great massage, I opted for deep tissue and it was nice and firm. Very thorough. Just enough oil to make it smooth. Flip was great. I was actually expecting somewhat of a smaller bbw, based on reviews and was pleasantly surprised to find that she was not. Her place is fairly comfortable, she has a nice table. Price for the hour massage was quoted at $60.
Not so good: She is 8 months pregnant. Not really my thing although it didn't bother me. If you like that sort of thing, check her out! There are kids in the house. Not distracting for me, but others may find it unnerving.
Overall it was a good experience that I will probably repeat if she is still working after the child.I apologize for any inconvenience you had during your session with me.
So is that just Heidi or are all of the Pacific gals that way? All three of my experiences at Panacea were more revealing. (BTW, Trista was great when I saw her at Panacea but was but very limiting about touching because of her condition.) What a dilemma: give Pacific another try and enjoy the showers or go back to Panacea. Just thinnking.I use to frequent Pacific on 44th a lot back around 1-2 years ago. I have seen many of the girls there. FS happened only once and that was with Heidi. Lynn and Kat were my favorites. DATY was available with Lynn. I tried to get takeout with Kat but never quite happened. I have not seen another report that someone received FS over the last year at Pacific on the forum so I don't think it's available with any of the girls. If you're looking for extras I would try another MP.
DexMorgan22
03-13-13, 20:43
How does one contact her?
I saw Trista a few weeks back, I have been very busy but wanted to up load my report. I got my first massage from her when she was working at Pancera and it was a great massage. As she was walking around the table I thought for sure I seen she was not wearing any panties under her very short skirt.
On the flip sure enough I was right she wasn't and she had some hair on her kitty! In my younger days I loved a completely shaved pussy but now a little hair is nice, she let me touch her all over just told me not to insert my finger witch was since it was my first time with her I did what she asked. Now she is working on her own in a nice hotel room she quoted the same rates as anyone else $60 for the hour. She still gave a good massage on the flip she asked if I wanted her to take off her top well I sure do she was wearing some tight sweat pants so I asked her to take them down she said she would for but for $80 she said that normally she would charge more but today since she is on her own she would just charge $80.
Now I'm thinking a total of $80 not an additional $80 but at the end of the session she said it comes to $140. I said I thought you said $80 she apologized and said she meant an additional $80 but she would take $100. I told her ok. She asked If I would see her again before she delivered her baby and I told her yes. But I have to say I will not see her again she seems to think she needs to charge you more so she can pay for her room. (Oh I for got to mention when she took her sweats off she was wearing panties and it was not even a thong!)
I use to frequent Pacific on 44th a lot back around 1-2 years ago. I have seen many of the girls there. FS happened only once and that was with Heidi. Lynn and Kat were my favorites. DATY was available with Lynn. I tried to get takeout with Kat but never quite happened. I have not seen another report that someone received FS over the last year at Pacific on the forum so I don't think it's available with any of the girls. If you're looking for extras I would try another MP.Thanks for the perspective on Pacific. E-W has been my preferred MP, but it has become a circus imo recently. Just not a fit now. Quality massage is primary for me, extras are secondary. First trip to Pacific (44th St) was good. Saw Heidi. Massage was above average, flip was standard. Will certainly repeat.
I had the pleasure of getting a massage from Bella today. First I want to say that its been ten years since I last got involved in such entertainment, but Bella made it very relaxing. It was my first time at Panacea, so there was the "first time customer" uncertainty happening between both parties, but suprisingly Bella was the first to break the ice.
Bella looks quite pretty. I only got a view while fully clothed, but I would give you a 7. 5 out of 10.
Personality was good. She did not have a problem talking, and seemed interested in what I was saying.
Massage was alright. I prefer my massages slightly more bilateral. It wasn't that she spent time only on one side, but rather a large portion on one side, then on the other. I asked for a relaxation massage. Perhaps next time I will find out how she is on the deeper massage. 4 out of 10, but generally I'm not big on relaxation massages, so this rating may change.
HE was excellent. Since it was my first time the menu was limited, but the HE that was provided was very pleasant. I was allowed to roam with my hands, but was informed of the boundries. I was told next time more could be negotiated. Overall, from what I could tell her body seemed very fit, which is always a huge turn on for me.
HE was 8 out of 10. Used both hands and could sense when I was getting closer and then sped up.
Body; although my senses were limited, right now I would rate her body a 8 out of 10.
Can't wait to visit again to negotiate further to see what else is available on the menu.
DexMorgan22
03-13-13, 21:54
Do any offer extras? Hand wandering?
Mr Demonet
03-13-13, 23:23
How does one contact her?She posts on the massage section of BP.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/weekends-with-trista/11052375
It doesn't sound like there is much more then a good HE available at the massage parlors here in GR. I have been to Royal, Pacific 44th, Massage Paradise with no luck. I am not looking for FS but would like more then the HE. Does anyone have suggestions on where I should try? I am going to have some free time the first week in April and am trying to decide where to go. I may have to look outside of GR but would rather not spend my money on gas.
It doesn't sound like there is much more then a good HE available at the massage parlors here in GR. I have been to Royal, Pacific 44th, Massage Paradise with no luck. I am not looking for FS but would like more then the HE. Does anyone have suggestions on where I should try? I am going to have some free time the first week in April and am trying to decide where to go. I may have to look outside of GR but would rather not spend my money on gas.Only had a BBBJ once at East West and I've been going to AMP for a couple of years. Guess I was at the right place at the right time that day.
It doesn't sound like there is much more then a good HE available at the massage parlors here in GR. I have been to Royal, Pacific 44th, Massage Paradise with no luck. I am not looking for FS but would like more then the HE. Does anyone have suggestions on where I should try? I am going to have some free time the first week in April and am trying to decide where to go. I may have to look outside of GR but would rather not spend my money on gas.Lansing Accupressure.
Or go to Hawaii Spa and see Micki.
I too cannot find more than HE in GR and an AMP.
Maybe others can report on Panacea as I've not been there.
It doesn't sound like there is much more then a good HE available at the massage parlors here in GR. I have been to Royal, Pacific 44th, Massage Paradise with no luck. I am not looking for FS but would like more then the HE. Does anyone have suggestions on where I should try? I am going to have some free time the first week in April and am trying to decide where to go. I may have to look outside of GR but would rather not spend my money on gas.It doesn't get much air time here, but the Rainbow Spa on Eastern is similiar to the lansing AMP's in that FS is available, pricing is pretty typical of the lansing AMP's, the ladies don't look as good and the service is somewhat uninspired. But you can get what you desire there. Only sure bet I know of in GR.
Had a chance to visit Pacific. The facility rates a 10. Very clean, polite and comfortable. It was my first visit so I assume my menu was limited. Had a great massage from Heidi. However no top down and no reverse (I love doing that) but a good quality HE for my first visit. I'll give it a try again and see if the menu expands. If not, I'll return to Pancea. However I really appreciate a facility with showers.
CheersI agree with you on Pacific being clean & discreet / polite. I think Heidi gives a great massage, but as others have said, her menu will not expand. I saw her 4 times in a couple week time frame and increased my tip each time. Same massage, same ending. I wondered what (if anything) would change if I presented the same amount you would pay at Hawaii to see Micki. But skepticism gave in. Too bad, Heidi is cute & fun. But. Its not to say "don't go see her" if you are looking for a fun time at an AMP, a spirited non-mechanical HE, AND get a good massage (this doesn't always happen), Heidi is your girl.
Member #6391
03-16-13, 16:19
Had a chance to see Katie recently. I called ahead and asked for Natasha, but she was already booked for the day. I was planning an hour appointment, but the girls were going on a shift change in 40 minutes, so I opted for 30.
Never being there before it was a nice looking place. Tucked behind an office complex, I parked right in front of the door.
The room was nice and very warm. No money was discussed up front. She left as I got comfortable.
She came in and started on my legs. She gives a good massage. We made some small talk. When she got to my back, she asked if she could get on the table, I told her that wasn't a problem.
She said that she was hot and went to move the heater. I told her she could get more comfortable if she got hot. She took her top off and laughed. Nice B's, pierced. She got some tats, on her side, back and neck, but that's a turn on for me.
After about 15, she asked if I was ready to flip. I asked her if she should continue the massage for a few more minutes. I got some attention to the boys as she leaned over me topless.
I flipped and she rubbed my legs and made her way up. She teased me some more. She got up on the table as she started on on the ending. I was allowed COB. She let me lick and kiss those piercings, which was interesting.
Pros:
No stress, no cash discussed.
She's cute, my type of girl and very easy going.
Comfy room and table, warm.
Took her time, no rushing.
Made some hot moaning noises as I got close. It made me crazy.
Great massage.
Great ending, not mechanical at all.
Cons:
Didn't quite get my 30 min, but it was close, she took her time and I appreciate that.
Only was able to get 1/2 hour after an hour drive.
Paid. 4 for the half hour and. 4 for the topless HE.
I'd love to repeat and try a different girl next time. Just want to see what's available. I would recommend Katie, she's a great girl.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classifieds/EnlargeImage?categoryKey=BodyRubs&categoryKey=BodyRubs&oid=11277947&image=11518271
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/classifieds/EnlargeImage?categoryKey=BodyRubs&categoryKey=BodyRubs&oid=11277947&image=11518271Thanks for the link. I haven't seen the pics of the girls.
Ok, I've seen this one a few 6 times in total, and nothing to be had outside of a pretty decent rub. She's a very sweet girl, great conversation, but just isn't interested in anything further than a massage. What a pity, she kinda has a zoey deschanel thing going. The first 3 times I saw her, was at a medical marijuana counseling center. The second 3 times at her own private office. I guess I'll go back again when I'm in the mood for a rub without any sort of HE.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-by-megan/10187882
MsAlready2504
03-20-13, 00:32
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Was in GR this week and tried out the Panacea for the first time. Saw Ava. She is really a looker! Long hair brunette and slim and tiny. Those little hands gave a great message and the HE on the flip was terrific! Thanks to all for the reports on this place.
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/3692760984.html
Who's who in these photos?
Scott Lee 44
03-20-13, 19:58
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/3692760984.html
Who's who in these photos?Good question! I called them today asking the same question. They said the girls don't like their names attached to the photos. They said Sidney isn't there either. I'd be interested in any onfo about her, especially since she has a flat fee of 150. Anyone know what does that includes?
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/3692760984.html
Who's who in these photos?Alma is top left, a sweety.
Jeff Mcthrustr
03-25-13, 15:38
It doesn't get much air time here, but the Rainbow Spa on Eastern is similiar to the lansing AMP's in that FS is available, pricing is pretty typical of the lansing AMP's, the ladies don't look as good and the service is somewhat uninspired. But you can get what you desire there. Only sure bet I know of in GR.REALLY? I was at Rainbow THREE different times and didn't get so much as an accidental brush on my fellas!
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/3692760984.html
Who's who in these photos?I know a couple of names. Please check for PM sent Monday.
Visited east west again Friday. They have a good staff working. Saw Sandy again and was excellent. Any other recommendations?
Saw tami at Pacific on 44th the other day. Heidi I was told has moved to do doing nails upstairs.
Tami appears to me to be Filipino. But I'm not sure really. About 40+ and like all Eastern girls is thin.
She gives a decent massage. About a 6.5 on a scale 1-10. I know from seeing her before HE is a given.
She will allow you to pull up her top and bra but not unclasp it. I played with her boobs the whole time while she finished massaging my little friend.
I asked if she would do a BJ since she knew me from past visits but like all at Pacific she declined.
60 house +40 tip.
Tip is never negotiated verbally or given in the room. A reason I like Pacific. I tip as I deem fit based on service.
What more can be said that hasn't already been said about this beauty. I made an appointment with her this past Saturday and as always my time with her was well spent. If you don't know Natasha yet, she is gorgeous and very easy to talk with. Never a break in conversation. She gives a light to medium pressure massage which is very relaxing. Although panacea girls do not offer FS or BJ, that's fine by me. If you want a class act experience then I would highly recommend Natasha, make sure to call ahead though for her because she books up fast. Every woman I have seen there has been gorgeous, you won't regret any decision there. Although I'm a regular for Natasha and won't switch to another for a regular, I may have to try Summer sometime, she looks really cute also. Anybody have any experiences with her? PM me if you'd like.
Saw BrookeatEW on Friday. Nice body, although she does have a bit of a scar from a C-section. Massage was pretty decent. She's an ex-Panacea girl. Flip was routine, although she did get almost as undressed as I was. It was that time of month otherwise she would've been in a similar state as me. Only slight roaming was allowed. Standard finish was all that was available. She told me none of the girls at EW do anything more than that now. Tip was the same amount as the 90 minute session fee.
Saw BrookeatEW on Friday. Nice body, although she does have a bit of a scar from a C-section. Massage was pretty decent. She's an ex-Panacea girl. Flip was routine, although she did get almost as undressed as I was. It was that time of month otherwise she would've been in a similar state as me. Only slight roaming was allowed. Standard finish was all that was available. She told me none of the girls at EW do anything more than that now. Tip was the same amount as the 90 minute session fee.I have a couple questions.
#1) Did you mean to type "90 minute session"? If so how much was it?
#2) Tip same as session rate seems very high for just HE if that's what you got. Just not sure what the total amount was, report was not specific.
How does one contact her?You may in box me for her info if you like.
Good question!
I find myself wanting to use $20 as a general rule of thumb as well. I will tip $40 for a HE with some enthusiasm.
My experience as a whole is this based on services: Usually $40 at Panacia, $20 to $40 at EW, $20 at Pacific. I have only been asked for a specific amount at EW. Other times it was left up to me after the session.I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?
I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?In most cases the gal is better looking. That in my mind justifies the higher price.
I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?It's really just a matter of preference or safety reasons. MP's imo are a safer route for acquiring extras. I definitely feel more at ease going to a MP. I prefer BP girls cause there is that added rush for me.
I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?I generally agree with you. I prefer to see BP girls for the same reasons you note.
A couple reasons I go to AMPs too though:
I can walk in anytime without an appt. And get service. If the mood hits me 5 mins before my lunch break for instance. My luck setting up and getting to a BP girl appt. In that scenario has been poor. Closest I came to that was a regular SW turned on call I used to see before she flaked out.
Another reason as another said below is safety. In an AMP you're safe. No pimp waiting, no cash+dash. Basically no risk at all. Even well reviewed providers turn, as we've all read here before.
Lastly, I like a massage anyway. The HE s frankly just an added service to the massage.
I generally agree with you. I prefer to see BP girls for the same reasons you note.
A couple reasons I go to AMPs too though:
I can walk in anytime without an appt. And get service. If the mood hits me 5 mins before my lunch break for instance. My luck setting up and getting to a BP girl appt. In that scenario has been poor. Closest I came to that was a regular SW turned on call I used to see before she flaked out.
Another reason as another said below is safety. In an AMP you're safe. No pimp waiting, no cash+dash. Basically no risk at all. Even well reviewed providers turn, as we've all read here before.
Lastly, I like a massage anyway. The HE s frankly just an added service to the massage.In agreement with this. For me there is value in the convenience of being able to call last minute or just walk in. Even when I schedule ahead with a BP or CL masseuse, I seem to end up with a timing conflict.
WhenInDoubt69
04-03-13, 06:07
Figured I haven't added any value to here lately so here is an update on my recent romps. One of which is in the wrong section, but I'm tired and feeling rather lazy this morning.
Panacea;
Saw Molly recently, nice enough girl, talked my ear off (sports mainly). Wasn't the worst massage ever, definately doesn't compete with others I have received. HE was less than stellar, she tried so hard though so got to give her credit.
Natasha is my regular, for those of you who haven't experienced this gem, your missing out as far as GR MP's are concerned. Awesome personality, loads of fun for sure.
Pacific;
Felt the urge to return to Anita again. This girl is smokin hot, HE is above average. Massage is better than some.
Used to frequent Heidi, but as I understand she has moved on, incase she hasn't and you have the pleasure. She is older, but gives a good massage. Loves to tease, which for me is a huge plus. I prefer a massage which is good, provides numerous occasions of touching, nudging, teasing. And the HE ain't bad at all.
Trista;
Massage is good, thats about it for me. Attitude is ehh, HE is ehh. Just not worth it imo.
BP Kelly;
Rockstar, nothing more needs to be said. I've never had an issue setting up with her.
If you need more info, shoot me a pm. And if any of you know of another AMP girl that loves to tease, please let me know.
I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?I think a lot of mongers pay for uncertainty, and the excitement that it brings. Will I get a HE? Will I get a BJ or FS? I've had enough disappointment in MPs to last a lifetime, so I'd have to hit the lottery before I'd go to MPs on a regular basis. The disappointment fucked me up for a number of years. I want a sure thing. If I ever went to an MP, I'd want enough cash to get satisfaction, if the MP experience sucked.
Paid my fourth visit to Panacea and enjoyed Ava. She is petite (although she used to be very heavy) and cute. The massage was a little to mechanical for me. Not much teasing, playing or just enjoying the event. Just another day at the office. She got comfotable up to a point and did allow a reciprocal massage. In order of preferance, my previus experiences were better: Trista, Natalie and "Summer's sister" (can't remember her name).
Anyone have experience with Sarah at Pacific?
Hi guys I am a provider, I am curious what it is exactly that makes you like your appt? I hear several comments on what was NOT received, as opposed to what a great location or she offers a great atmosphere, are these things types of things that you don't really care about? I mean what if you have great conversation while receiving a fantastic massage, doesn't that count for anything these days? I hear many comments on no additional services offered, but not any comments on how the actual massage was? I personally give a great massage. So this is purely out of curiousness that I am asking. Thank you in advance for any info, I like to tailor my services to my clientele.I'm going to preface this by saying usasexguide. Info might not be the best place to find a balanced sample of clients, because most of us are here to find out where we'll get our dick touched.
That said, if I'm just looking for a good massage. It's very important that there are no interruptions, be it phone calls, constant texting, someone knocking on the door, the provider leaving the room for 10 minuts. All of which have happend durring my appointments multiple times. I don't mind a little conversation, but some guys might just prefer silence, it doesn't hurt to ask. Music in general is okay, but I'd prefer silence to that cliche oriental folk track on repeat.
I'm going to preface this by saying usasexguide. Info might not be the best place to find a balanced sample of clients, because most of us are here to find out where we'll get our dick touched.
That said, if I'm just looking for a good massage. It's very important that there are no interruptions, be it phone calls, constant texting, someone knocking on the door, the provider leaving the room for 10 minuts. All of which have happend durring my appointments multiple times. I don't mind a little conversation, but some guys might just prefer silence, it doesn't hurt to ask. Music in general is okay, but I'd prefer silence to that cliche oriental folk track on repeat.So why are we responding to a 7 month old entry?
So why are we responding to a 7 month old entry?I stumbled across it by accident and didn't notice how old it was, I thought I deleted it but oh well.
First time recently at Royal now that Heidi at Pacific is doing nails. Super clean place and much nicer overall than any of the MPs I've been to. They have a shower but I'm guessing its like Pacific as in nothing happens there but nice to get the oil off afterward. I saw Lindsey for a hh, $40 upfront, $40 tip. Massage was decent but not great and no playing with the boys either. On the flip I actually wondered if anything was going to happen and a really good he was enjoyed! Nice surprise ending I guess. Lindsey is a little overweight but nice big natural titties and she's young so that made up for it. I'd say I'd repeat.
Anyone else have a girl there they like / any names to recommend?
I think a lot of mongers pay for uncertainty, and the excitement that it brings. Will I get a HE? Will I get a BJ or FS? I've had enough disappointment in MPs to last a lifetime, so I'd have to hit the lottery before I'd go to MPs on a regular basis. The disappointment fucked me up for a number of years. I want a sure thing. If I ever went to an MP, I'd want enough cash to get satisfaction, if the MP experience sucked.How often has anyone EVER gotten more than a HJ at the local massage spots? In my experience if you are wanting a BJ or FS it won't be happening at Panacea, Wonder, Pacific, EW, Royal, etc. If anyone has regularily gotten more than a HJ I sure would love to know where and with who, because like many I like the convenience and safety a massage place offers. But ain't no BJ's happening and to pay $60 for a half-assed massage and tip $40 because she touched my willie seems a bit ridiculous.
How often has anyone EVER gotten more than a HJ at the local massage spots? In my experience if you are wanting a BJ or FS it won't be happening at Panacea, Wonder, Pacific, EW, Royal, etc. If anyone has regularily gotten more than a HJ I sure would love to know where and with who, because like many I like the convenience and safety a massage place offers. But ain't no BJ's happening and to pay $60 for a half-assed massage and tip $40 because she touched my willie seems a bit ridiculous.Before 2002, it was easy to get FS on a regular basis at a certain MP, but there are much better options, now. I currently see certain SWs, on a regular basis. It's much more bang for the buck.
Member #4025
04-08-13, 13:53
I visited Pacific in Cascade 2. 3 weeks ago as I had an appointment in that area. Briefly, I saw Lucy. Average but cute Vietnamese (not a Jennifer body but definitely okay) , good massage, was open to touching over and under clothes, she actually pulled her pants down and shirt away later in massage: I enjoyed some light kissing, sucking on breast, FIV; finish was only HE ending, though with all I was permitted to do I kept thinking more might be offered / available. 60 + 40 tip, Lucy never asked about tip; that is what I gave as I was leaving. I will most likely return when I am next in GR.
Before 2002, it was easy to get FS on a regular basis at a certain MP, but there are much better options, now. I currently see certain SWs, on a regular basis. It's much more bang for the buck.It is a rarity to receive FS in a MP of GR. It does happen, but not often and not on any regular occurrence. I have had FS at Pacific 1 time with Tammy, but no other reports since. Lin at Pacific (not sure she still there) did DATY. Best bet for FS is Mikki in Charlotte at the Islands. Worth the drive.
Saw Sidney last week at E / W nice girl, however she does not stop TALKING. Massage was decent enough, the flip was fun. I like the girl's attitude but I sometimes like it quiet. So I have been a long time lurker, I have seen a lot of these girls decided to share, after all you guys are worth it. Keep up with the information!
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-massages-by-sidney-26/11852908
A few weeks back I visited Rhonda at Wonder, I LOVE her attitude and enthusiasm. Great massage and she loves the flip. She sounds like she gets excited when you flip. Will definately be back to see Rhonda!
Before 2002, it was easy to get FS on a regular basis at a certain MP, but there are much better options, now. I currently see certain SWs, on a regular basis. It's much more bang for the buck.There use to be quite a few that offered up FS way back when. Some of my favs were Tokyo Spa (closed). Kinja (closed). Rainbow (has gone way downhill). Woodland (closed). Paradise (closed). Hawaii (closed). Polynesian (closed). Man those were the days.
Scott Lee 44
04-11-13, 12:31
A few weeks back I visited Rhonda at Wonder, I LOVE her attitude and enthusiasm. Great massage and she loves the flip. She sounds like she gets excited when you flip. Will definately be back to see Rhonda!I've seen Rhonda several times in the past and completely agree. She is very sweet and makes me feel very comfortable during the entire session. I seen Camille at Wonder too. She's a beautiful young lady and I highly recommend her!
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