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Well I believe it happened again, because of all the drooling and praise that the mongers get on here and do 1 of the favorites decieded she was flooded with clients and her used to be resoniable rate decicieded to in my opion gauge, as long as the drooling goes on its going to continue to happen, 140 $ a half in a massage parlour I belive is outrageous, I told her I wouldn't put her name out there but feel free to pm me. Smfh 140 $ half is I believe more than a doctor charges, and there is no medical degree hanging on wall in that massage room, lost me as a client. Hope the more that follow will result in a stop of this craziness.
Jayce Dragon
08-10-18, 11:38
Well I believe it happened again, because of all the drooling and praise that the mongers get on here and do 1 of the favorites decieded she was flooded with clients and her used to be resoniable rate decicieded to in my opion gauge, as long as the drooling goes on its going to continue to happen, 140 $ a half in a massage parlour I belive is outrageous, I told her I wouldn't put her name out there but feel free to pm me. Smfh 140 $ half is I believe more than a doctor charges, and there is no medical degree hanging on wall in that massage room, lost me as a client. Hope the more that follow will result in a stop of this craziness.What's her hour rate then? O_o.
What's her hour rate then? O_o.Umm 180 $ yep that's one hundred eighty dollars.
HollandMI8
08-10-18, 16:43
Well I believe it happened again, because of all the drooling and praise that the mongers get on here and do 1 of the favorites decieded she was flooded with clients and her used to be resoniable rate decicieded to in my opion gauge, as long as the drooling goes on its going to continue to happen, 140 $ a half in a massage parlour I belive is outrageous, I told her I wouldn't put her name out there but feel free to pm me. Smfh 140 $ half is I believe more than a doctor charges, and there is no medical degree hanging on wall in that massage room, lost me as a client. Hope the more that follow will result in a stop of this craziness.Well in this economy I think it is fair for someone to charge what ever they think they are worth. Like rising water things will level out at some time and then you can decide it is worth it or not. I think some really are a bargain and others. Well. Let the market work it out.
Umm 180 $ yep that's one hundred eighty dollars.Maybe it's gps, maybe it's something else. If you are referring to Layla, I saw her a while back when door fees were $30 and hhr was $100. Now her rates are $140 for hhr with $40 going to the door fee. So I'm not really sure you can call that GPS if her rate didn't change. I received $130 worth of treatment in my half hour and would gladly go back if she didn't work on the NE side of GR.
When Blonde25 was working, she charged $80 hhr $160 hr before tips. Many times I saw her at $100 hhr and would do it again in a heartbeat. She was running her own business so the rates were reasonable considering there is no door fee. I know that there were others giving way more than $100 hhr.
I guess the good ones charge what they want and still get booked. The door fee is unavoidable because it's a business too. I'd put Blonde at a better massage and Layla at a better finish though. She had the right amount of sexy, naughty and professional together. So while you don't want to spend $180 for an hour or $140 for a hhr, others are willing instead of trying to control the price of admission. I personally don't support GPS and think it all needs to be reasonable but there are escorts charging $300+ an hour in GR where others charge $150. So if you don't like the price, there's other finds.
Maybe it's gps, maybe it's something else. If you are referring to Layla, I saw her a while back when door fees were $30 and hhr was $100. Now her rates are $140 for hhr with $40 going to the door fee. So I'm not really sure you can call that GPS if her rate didn't change. I received $130 worth of treatment in my half hour and would gladly go back if she didn't work on the NE side of GR.
When Blonde25 was working, she charged $80 hhr $160 hr before tips. Many times I saw her at $100 hhr and would do it again in a heartbeat. She was running her own business so the rates were reasonable considering there is no door fee. I know that there were others giving way more than $100 hhr.
I guess the good ones charge what they want and still get booked. The door fee is unavoidable because it's a business too. I'd put Blonde at a better massage and Layla at a better finish though. She had the right amount of sexy, naughty and professional together. So while you don't want to spend $180 for an hour or $140 for a hhr, others are willing instead of trying to control the price of admission. I personally don't support GPS and think it all needs to be reasonable but there are escorts charging $300+ an hour in GR where others charge $150. So if you don't like the price, there's other finds." I saw her a while back when door fees were $30 and hhr was $100. Now her rates are $140 for hhr with $40 going to the door fee. So I'm not really sure you can call that GPS if her rate didn't change. ".
Gentlemen,
While I agree that there is a higher than normal charge for Layla's talents, I was amazed today. Wowzer, that was a fun one. If I was rich, I'd certainly go back for more, more often.
Economics will decide whether she continues to be successful, but you can chalk this review up as a thumbs up! She was kind and funny and honest and she certainly had her mind set on providing very good service.
Thanks, Layla! And thanks, Benz!
I always like to know the price and service before I see the provider. Then I can make the right choice. If a girl changes or upsells the price or service, I'll get my clothes on and walk out. I've done it many times.
I've also had the massage girl with my dick in her hand asking for more money. At that point it's do it yourself time. Let her watch me jerk her tip off and tip her nothing. They usually chip in hoping to get some kind of tip.
I have no respect for those girls.
I only respect the ones that can give me the service and prices agreed upon.
Gentlemen,
While I agree that there is a higher than normal charge for Layla's talents, I was amazed today. Wowzer, that was a fun one. If I was rich, I'd certainly go back for more, more often.
Economics will decide whether she continues to be successful, but you can chalk this review up as a thumbs up! She was kind and funny and honest and she certainly had her mind set on providing very good service.
Thanks, Layla! And thanks, Benz!While I appreciate the Nod for helping make the connection. I would like to clarify, I was not in the room with Layla and Darshane, she usually works solo.
Ah, but your name came up, Benz. And she had a smile on her face!
While I appreciate the Nod for helping make the connection. I would like to clarify, I was not in the room with Layla and Darshane, she usually works solo.
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JustMe1973
08-11-18, 20:55
Maybe it's gps, maybe it's something else. If you are referring to Layla, I saw her a while back when door fees were $30 and hhr was $100. Now her rates are $140 for hhr with $40 going to the door fee. So I'm not really sure you can call that GPS if her rate didn't change. I received $130 worth of treatment in my half hour and would gladly go back if she didn't work on the NE side of GR.
When Blonde25 was working, she charged $80 hhr $160 hr before tips. Many times I saw her at $100 hhr and would do it again in a heartbeat. She was running her own business so the rates were reasonable considering there is no door fee. I know that there were others giving way more than $100 hhr.
I guess the good ones charge what they want and still get booked. The door fee is unavoidable because it's a business too. I'd put Blonde at a better massage and Layla at a better finish though. She had the right amount of sexy, naughty and professional together. So while you don't want to spend $180 for an hour or $140 for a hhr, others are willing instead of trying to control the price of admission. I personally don't support GPS and think it all needs to be reasonable but there are escorts charging $300+ an hour in GR where others charge $150. So if you don't like the price, there's other finds.The thing is, there are definitely experiences that are worth much less or much more. In my experience is not only correlated to looks (as much as we wish it was) but to many factors some being unpredictable. So, I don't think there's a "maximum" fair value only a maximum that I'm willing to pay at a given time. If someone has something very unique, then it's fair be to pay for it. What I hate is being misled. I had an instance this weekend where a we'll reviewed MP provider had both rates and times incorrect in an ad. "Oops, yeah that was supposed to be a hhr not hr", etc.
That's why this board is valuable. (and I'm not leaving a review for her or naming her name, because it could have been an honest mistake.).
Thanks guys!!
... I don't think there's a "maximum" fair value only a maximum that I'm willing to pay at a given time. ...One of the best things I've read on this board. A truer statement I would struggle to find.
Hey guys, had the pleasure of seeing Sophia a few times recently and she is worth trying for sure! Young, nice body for having a few younger children and really enjoys taking care of her customer! Massage is pretty good but would not go just for the massage. The flip was well above average. PM for more details.
I have seen her a couple times. She has a great body and is sexy as hell IMO. Some people have said her face is awe full but I do not agree. Very good massage and playful. I need to go see her again.I've seen her a few months ago, and again last week. She's worth your time and money.
BakeLife127
08-12-18, 19:41
I just want to say thanks to the brothers who have helped me in this forum meet some official providers thanks!!
Had some extra time today so I stopped into wonder for a half hour. Drew Nicole a probably mid 30 AA with a big set of Tara's. Pretty decent massage for 20 minutes and then a nice standard finish. $40/40. Believe a pretty open menu but wasn't in the mood to try and negotiate.
ClassyGentGr
08-13-18, 21:36
I want to put a plug in for a special gal who gives a great massage and can be flirty and lots of fun. She is a clean, attractive late 20's African-American, smart and sweet, with great hands. I met her a few years back when I wanted to find a good local gal for a good massage from time to time and she delivers! Then I discovered she gives HE too. She keeps hinting that more may be on the menu if the price is right, but I haven't bitten yet. But if I need a good rubdown with a HE, she's a good one! You will find her here: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/yr-private-body-connoisseur/260432600956.
JimmyTheKid2
08-14-18, 07:41
Does she work out of a home or parlor? Thanks.
I want to put a plug in for a special gal who gives a great massage and can be flirty and lots of fun. She is a clean, attractive late 20's African-American, smart and sweet, with great hands. I met her a few years back when I wanted to find a good local gal for a good massage from time to time and she delivers! Then I discovered she gives HE too. She keeps hinting that more may be on the menu if the price is right, but I haven't bitten yet. But if I need a good rubdown with a HE, she's a good one! You will find her here: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/yr-private-body-connoisseur/260432600956.
JimmyTheKid2
08-14-18, 07:46
Does she work out of a home or parlor? Thanks.
I want to put a plug in for a special gal who gives a great massage and can be flirty and lots of fun. She is a clean, attractive late 20's African-American, smart and sweet, with great hands. I met her a few years back when I wanted to find a good local gal for a good massage from time to time and she delivers! Then I discovered she gives HE too. She keeps hinting that more may be on the menu if the price is right, but I haven't bitten yet. But if I need a good rubdown with a HE, she's a good one! You will find her here: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/yr-private-body-connoisseur/260432600956.
Called her to set up an appointment at 4:30 texted her at 4:20 for rest of directions, no response, texted again at 4:45 to see if my appointment was still on. Called at 5:00 no answer.
I want to put a plug in for a special gal who gives a great massage and can be flirty and lots of fun. She is a clean, attractive late 20's African-American, smart and sweet, with great hands. I met her a few years back when I wanted to find a good local gal for a good massage from time to time and she delivers! Then I discovered she gives HE too. She keeps hinting that more may be on the menu if the price is right, but I haven't bitten yet. But if I need a good rubdown with a HE, she's a good one! You will find her here: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/yr-private-body-connoisseur/260432600956.
Called her to set up an appointment at 4:30 texted her at 4:20 for rest of directions, no response, texted again at 4:45 to see if my appointment was still on. Called at 5:00 no answer.I've seen her a number of times; was always easy to get ahold of. Only one time did she have me wait because she was busy with another client, and it wasn't too long. She works out of a decent, very discreet private office, off the road. Did a review quite awhile back; only negative is she is always trying to upsell, and everything is a la carte, so even tho her rates are advertised as low, she ends up as high as anyone else for same service. Nice looking, great tatas, good personality, avg ms, nice ending handiwork.
Gentlemen,
While I agree that there is a higher than normal charge for Layla's talents, I was amazed today. Wowzer, that was a fun one. If I was rich, I'd certainly go back for more, more often.
Economics will decide whether she continues to be successful, but you can chalk this review up as a thumbs up! She was kind and funny and honest and she certainly had her mind set on providing very good service.
Thanks, Layla! And thanks, Benz!I totally agree with your review.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/348928812242
On my way home from work, I stopped at Serenity to drop a load today (of paper) for a $10 discount off my massage.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=58738&cityid=222
When I arrived I said. Wow , how much is that hottie in the window?
Sexy hottie, Pics are Real.
Massage was ok, always room for improvement, we traded places a couple times so she knows what I like. The massage got better at the end. HJ only.
Roaming is allowed except fiv, fib or GFE.
She's a spinner with a perfect ass, itty bitty titties and a perfect smile.
My dick got hard when she smiled at me. That made the HJ ok (for now).
I will repeat or just hold her pics up with one hand every night.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-love/605740934177
Happy Hunting.
Love The Lips
08-15-18, 20:22
On my way home from work, I stopped at Serenity to drop a load today (of paper) for a $10 discount off my massage.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=58738&cityid=222
When I arrived I said. Wow , how much is that hottie in the window?
Sexy hottie, Pics are Real.
Massage was ok, always room for improvement, we traded places a couple times so she knows what I like. The massage got better at the end. HJ only.
Roaming is allowed except fiv, fib or GFE.
She's a spinner with a perfect ass, itty bitty titties and a perfect smile.
My dick got hard when she smiled at me. That made the HJ ok (for now).
I will repeat or just hold her pics up with one hand every night.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-love/605740934177
Happy Hunting.Damn. She's a hottie and just my type! Damage?
NaperDusty
08-15-18, 22:17
I'll echo your comments. I've seen Hayley several times and she's the whole package for me. Hayley owns Serenity and is building a trustworthy clientele and hiring solid girls. While she's not for everyone, she is the best for discerning guys who prefer to pay a little more for great conversation, a clean and safe environment, and drama free time. She's $140 which may be a lot for some, but it's a bargain for those of us who buy into exactly what she's building and selling.
On my way home from work, I stopped at Serenity to drop a load today (of paper) for a $10 discount off my massage.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=58738&cityid=222
When I arrived I said. Wow , how much is that hottie in the window?
Sexy hottie, Pics are Real.
Massage was ok, always room for improvement, we traded places a couple times so she knows what I like. The massage got better at the end. HJ only.
Roaming is allowed except fiv, fib or GFE.
She's a spinner with a perfect ass, itty bitty titties and a perfect smile.
My dick got hard when she smiled at me. That made the HJ ok (for now).
I will repeat or just hold her pics up with one hand every night.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-love/605740934177
Happy Hunting.
I'll echo your comments. I've seen Hayley several times and she's the whole package for me. Hayley owns Serenity and is building a trustworthy clientele and hiring solid girls. While she's not for everyone, she is the best for discerning guys who prefer to pay a little more for great conversation, a clean and safe environment, and drama free time. She's $140 which may be a lot for some, but it's a bargain for those of us who buy into exactly what she's building and selling.Is the $140 hh or 1 hr? Previously there were reports that she wore gloves for even the HJ, is that still the same or has it changed?
Is the $140 hh or 1 hr? Previously there were reports that she wore gloves for even the HJ, is that still the same or has it changed?According to her ad, she gives a HJ for $140 a half hour. An hour with her ending with a HJ is a whopping $180.
Damn. She's a hottie and just my type! Damage?The door fee is 40, Wynter's sessions starts at 100. Half hour or hour is the same rate, it's a session. Must be a Millennial thing, I did get my full hour and she did get comfortable.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-love/605740934177
I got a 10 discount for dropping my load of school supplies at the door.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=58738&cityid=222
Total Damage 130.
No surprise. But I completely agree with what Benz shared. By the time I got to her she actually gave a great massage and she let my hands rome her amazing firm body. No school supplies so I didn't get the $10 discount. I would rank Winter as one of the best I've seen. Total package from her great attitude to the HE to finish. Will repeat.
On my way home from work, I stopped at Serenity to drop a load today (of paper) for a $10 discount off my massage.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=58738&cityid=222
When I arrived I said. Wow , how much is that hottie in the window?
Sexy hottie, Pics are Real.
Massage was ok, always room for improvement, we traded places a couple times so she knows what I like. The massage got better at the end. HJ only.
Roaming is allowed except fiv, fib or GFE.
She's a spinner with a perfect ass, itty bitty titties and a perfect smile.
My dick got hard when she smiled at me. That made the HJ ok (for now).
I will repeat or just hold her pics up with one hand every night.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-love/605740934177
Happy Hunting.
Wolverines
08-19-18, 02:49
Thanks for toftt. I have been following her ADs closely as I am waiting for FS to show up in her list of services. Probably won't happen but a guy can dream.
No surprise. But I completely agree with what Benz shared. By the time I got to her she actually gave a great massage and she let my hands rome her amazing firm body. No school supplies so I didn't get the $10 discount. I would rank Winter as one of the best I've seen. Total package from her great attitude to the HE to finish. Will repeat.
The door fee is 40, Wynter's sessions starts at 100. Half hour or hour is the same rate, it's a session. Must be a Millennial thing, I did get my full hour and she did get comfortable.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-love/605740934177
I got a 10 discount for dropping my load of school supplies at the door. Total Damage 130.
On my way home from work, I stopped at Serenity to drop a load today (of paper) for a $10 discount off my massage. When I arrived I said. Wow , how much is that hottie in the window? Sexy hottie, Pics are Real. Massage was ok, always room for improvement, we traded places a couple times so she knows what I like. The massage got better at the end. HJ only. Roaming is allowed except fiv, fib or GFE. She's a spinner with a perfect ass, itty bitty titties and a perfect smile. My dick got hard when she smiled at me. That made the HJ ok (for now). I will repeat or just hold her pics up with one hand every night.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-love/605740934177
Happy Hunting.
Fixxxer2018
08-20-18, 20:25
Thanks for toftt. I have been following her ADs closely as I am waiting for FS to show up in her list of services. Probably won't happen but a guy can dream.She's full service. She just doesn't know you enough. I saw her last summer when she was pregnant and working at touch of paradise. She has a hotel she works out of on Plainfield and 96. She's pricey though and very bitchy. I also happen to know Hailey the owner of serenity. I've known her since her early days of nude cleaning off of Craigslist.
"Winter" will do more she just doesn't advertise it unless you know her. She is gorgeous but her attitude turns me away.
Wolverines
08-20-18, 22:19
Thanks for the info. I may have to back the truck up and give her a shot.
Will hailey do more? She is another one I would love to see but I have stayed away from because she advertises as non-FS.
She's full service. She just doesn't know you enough. I saw her last summer when she was pregnant and working at touch of paradise. She has a hotel she works out of on Plainfield and 96. She's pricey though and very bitchy. I also happen to know Hailey the owner of serenity. I've known her since her early days of nude cleaning off of Craigslist.
"Winter" will do more she just doesn't advertise it unless you know her. She is gorgeous but her attitude turns me away.
She's full service. She just doesn't know you enough. I saw her last summer when she was pregnant and working at touch of paradise. She has a hotel she works out of on Plainfield and 96. She's pricey though and very bitchy. I also happen to know Hailey the owner of serenity. I've known her since her early days of nude cleaning off of Craigslist.
"Winter" will do more she just doesn't advertise it unless you know her. She is gorgeous but her attitude turns me away.From what she told me.
She moved and changed her menu because she has a significant other (S.O.) now.
Fixxxer2018
08-21-18, 05:06
From what she told me.
She moved and changed her menu because she has a significant other (S.O.) now.In all fairness you can't really believe what any of these girls tell you unless you know and see them outside of work. She is a 10 out of 10 I just personally think her attitude sucks.
As far as what Hailey will do I can only say what was offered to me. I have no idea what she does with others. I consider her a friend in the industry and have known her since 2013. For her age she's very attractive.
ChipCharger
08-21-18, 13:14
I've been out of town traveling but on my return saw Layla at Serenity. I'm so glad I did. Dang! Her massage skills have improved and the ongoing ambience is way better than I've experienced elsewhere. No comparison. I see while I have been gone some discussion on rates etc but really Layla gives the most bang for your buck as far as I'm concerned. You can pay less, but more often than not, get less. I'll be back for sure. Top notch service!
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ChipCharger
08-22-18, 07:28
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DerickSaunders
08-22-18, 22:53
I am fairly positive I've read negative posts on her before but here is mine. I've seen her twice recently as a walk in appointment. Both times have been quite lackluster. Massage is meh and HE is very meh. Both times I was in and out in 20 minutes or less. When the next room starts before you and you still get done and dressed before the other room has finished, you know your being rushed. All in all I'd say to avoid her if it's possible.
I've been out of town traveling but on my return saw Layla at Serenity. I'm so glad I did. Dang! Her massage skills have improved and the ongoing ambience is way better than I've experienced elsewhere. No comparison. I see while I have been gone some discussion on rates etc but really Layla gives the most bang for your buck as far as I'm concerned. You can pay less, but more often than not, get less. I'll be back for sure. Top notch service!I agree,
IMO there are Multi Tier providers in this hobby.
Those we like / love and will repeat, those we think are ok and will repeat if our favorite providers are not available.
Then there's the ones we will not repeat do to risk, price or poor skills.
Occasionally Tier two can achieve Tier one status, if the provider is willing to listen, take direction well and learn what we like. Only a few providers have achieved that up hill climb (for me).
Like Chip said, her massage skills have improved, inside and out.
Overall I think it's her long boney fingers with just the right amount of grease that makes me sqeak.
After today's visit, there's not much room for improvement. It was intense and relaxing all at the same time. Her skills have improved, if you haven't seen her latley.
Big boobs Barbie didn't cum bouncing in today, she was busy with another client. The twins must be getting popular. I did miss them this time but maybe that's why this appointment was more intimate and intense.
With all the chatter about price, I agree with both sides of the argument. However if it's the Trifecta for you and others too, we all know the price will often reflect the skill of the provider.
Giving the Budget Minded Monger their place in the debate. While reading and contributing to the debate, I'm usually on the budget side. I often reflect on the wisdom of my Grandfather. He would often say / There's a Jack for every Jill.
I'm always looking for the best bang for my buck too.
The BMM should search the SW thread for the next best deal. I'm sure the BMM will find one or two there.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/348928812242
Happy Hunting.
Stroker417
08-23-18, 09:57
Saw Layla the other day. Cannot say anymore then has already been said by others about her. She provides just the right amount of teasing and pleasing to make the session top notch. Seniors can pm me for the details.
HuggableGuy
08-24-18, 15:29
Hey guys,
I just had a most wonderful time with Hayley. She is beautiful. She has bumped Natasha from my all time favorite girl.
She "introduced" me to Layla and Wynter. Holy crap it's like I died and was in heaven.
Layla is very pretty and sounds like she would be a good time for sure. And Wynter is a half pint absolute doll that I just want to put in my pocket and take home.
But Hayley is just what the Dr. Ordered. Smoking body, pretty face, and just a pleasure to talk to.
I will definately do my best to visit again. It is a bit of a drive for me, but well worth it.
$140 was the total.
Treat them nice guys. They're keepers.
Alise works both for Serenity and Pacific. She gave me a text and I decided to give her a try.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/grand...80607-12457974
Cute girl and a lot of fun. She would not set tip amount so I gave her what I wanted and I told her to give whatever extras she felt I was entitled to. Normally I would not do things this way but between her cuteness and great personality I decided to give her that freedom. She got naked for me while I gave her the massage, yes, you read that right LOL. We had a great time and I found little rules on the playground. 3/4 the way into her massage we switched up and she insisted it was my time. I loved her skills and she made sure I left relaxed, happy and stress free. She goes by Nina at Pacific, Alise at Serenity.
ClassyGentGr
08-26-18, 07:07
Went to see Angel for first time in years yesterday and so glad I did. I was in need of a good rubdown after a 2 hour sport yesterday morning and she delivered a fantastic massage. Very teasing oat times. The flip was amazing (for $160), she has great knockers (let's you roam) and knows how to play with the boys (for $200 she said there would be more fun). She is fun and very bubbly, maybe not for everyone, but for a mature provider who knows how to do things right, I will return. http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/tender-touch-by-angel/436732704968.
HollandMI8
08-26-18, 07:33
Went to see Angel for first time in years yesterday and so glad I did. I was in need of a good rubdown after a 2 hour sport yesterday morning and she delivered a fantastic massage. Very teasing oat times. The flip was amazing (for $160), she has great knockers (let's you roam) and knows how to play with the boys (for $200 she said there would be more fun). She is fun and very bubbly, maybe not for everyone, but for a mature provider who knows how to do things right, I will return. http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/tender-touch-by-angel/436732704968.I agree, if you are looking for a skilled prostate massage, this is your girl! Safe, clean and she knows what she is doing.
Stonecoldstan
08-26-18, 12:34
Decide to roll the dice at panacea the other night. End up with Erica rub down 5/10 ending was alright all clothes stayed on limited touching. Her looks 5/10.
Decide to roll the dice at panacea the other night. End up with Erica rub down 5/10 ending was alright all clothes stayed on limited touching. Her looks 5/10.Recent reports certainly indicate a downward trend in the customer satisfaction level. Too bad because they used to be a great visit.
Any other recent reports that indicate that the service (outside of Tasha's) would be worth visiting?
HuggableGuy
08-27-18, 07:18
Recent reports certainly indicate a downward trend in the customer satisfaction level. Too bad because they used to be a great visit.
Any other recent reports that indicate that the service (outside of Tasha's) would be worth visiting?My last visit (maybe a month ago) with Natasha was very good!
No complaints here. She was as good as ever.
Just happened to find a new favorite provider.
MusicBoss10
08-27-18, 10:42
Saw petite tattooed Wynter at Serenity last week. She is very cute and very petite. Massage was mediocre with little teasing and a quick he on the flip. A little quick and a little attitude, but all in all pretty good. May repeat in a pinch.
Love The Lips
08-27-18, 13:35
Saw petite tattooed Wynter at Serenity last week. She is very cute and very petite. Massage was mediocre with little teasing and a quick he on the flip. A little quick and a little attitude, but all in all pretty good. May repeat in a pinch.Is she still over priced with a touch of GPS?
Love The Lips
08-27-18, 13:37
Recent reports certainly indicate a downward trend in the customer satisfaction level. Too bad because they used to be a great visit.
Any other recent reports that indicate that the service (outside of Tasha's) would be worth visiting?Aliese has told me that she may be starting to book some sessions through Panacea again. She had been working through Royal lately.
Love The Lips
08-27-18, 13:42
Hey guys,
I just had a most wonderful time with Hayley. She is beautiful. She has bumped Natasha from my all time favorite girl.
She "introduced" me to Layla and Wynter. Holy crap it's like I died and was in heaven.
Layla is very pretty and sounds like she would be a good time for sure. And Wynter is a half pint absolute doll that I just want to put in my pocket and take home.
But Hayley is just what the Dr. Ordered. Smoking body, pretty face, and just a pleasure to talk to.
I will definately do my best to visit again. It is a bit of a drive for me, but well worth it.
$140 was the total.
Treat them nice guys. They're keepers.Was there more than just a typical HJ?
Stonecoldstan
08-27-18, 13:47
Aliese has told me that she may be starting to book some sessions through Panacea again. She had been working through Royal lately.I've always liked her, the few times I wmseen her. I miss Nikki and have yet to find a comparable massage.
HuggableGuy
08-27-18, 16:06
Was there more than just a typical HJ?It was technically only a HJ, but it was better than "typical".
My "typical" experiences anyway.
She said she does not do full. I respect that.
Love The Lips
08-27-18, 16:10
It was technically only a HJ, but it was better than "typical".
My "typical" experiences anyway.
She said she does not do full. I respect that.Sending you a pm.
SuperSport181
08-28-18, 03:26
This new massage place in Wyoming off 28th is said to be opened by "Lyn" (she told me this).
Lyn is the hottest massage wannabe I have seen in a while. However she is pure bullshit.
Her favorite thing to do is to sell you on an appointment like a $60 special and then when you get undressed and on the table, 5 minutes in she will tell you that she can only do 30 minutes and make some bullshit excuse as to why.
So your laying there thinking "OK fine she's hot as hell. We just get the "fun" over quicker" no. The is a Pro from recent,. But she is fickle. And has not produced any fun or Extras.
Then when your wondering what the hell is up with this *****. She will tell you early that the session is over and cost you $60 for the Half hour. Its her thing she does it all the time.
She is a total scam! And the worst massage you could ever get.
So finally found some time to go and see what all the rave was about with layla at serenity. Man is she worth it. Set up was easy. Personality is awesome. When I arrived she gave me a hug and had a great smile. Went to the room and I got comfortable. She didn't keep me waiting very long at all. During our session there was a lot of good conversation. Her personality is one of the best. Not a clock watcher and she is a load of fun. I cannot wait to see her again. Massage was good flip was even better. She's worth seeing. And she's very good looking.
MusicBoss10
08-28-18, 07:42
Is she still over priced with a touch of GPS?Yes definitely.
Mongerlian
08-28-18, 09:12
My last visit (maybe a month ago) with Natasha was very good!
No complaints here. She was as good as ever.
Just happened to find a new favorite provider.Is there any way to get in touch with Natasha directly? Every time I call, no matter what day or time of day, I'm told she's busy or not there. I haven't tried her yet, but from other reports I've read, some of the girls there are jealous that she gets a lot of customers (the obvious solution would be to step one's game up, by the way), so I'm not sure I'm getting accurate information.
Love The Lips
08-28-18, 09:20
Is there any way to get in touch with Natasha directly? Every time I call, no matter what day or time of day, I'm told she's busy or not there. I haven't tried her yet, but from other reports I've read, some of the girls there are jealous that she gets a lot of customers (the obvious solution would be to step one's game up, by the way), so I'm not sure I'm getting accurate information.She only works 2-3 days a week. Thursdays are your best bet, she's always there on Thursdays. Call early in the day to set your appointment.
HuggableGuy
08-28-18, 11:54
She only works 2-3 days a week. Thursdays are your best bet, she's always there on Thursdays. Call early in the day to set your appointment.I'm told she only works Thursdays and Fridays.
Book early.
This new massage place in Wyoming off 28th is said to be opened by "Lyn" (she told me this).
Lyn is the hottest massage wannabe I have seen in a while. However she is pure bullshit.
Her favorite thing to do is to sell you on an appointment like a $60 special and then when you get undressed and on the table, 5 minutes in she will tell you that she can only do 30 minutes and make some bullshit excuse as to why.
So your laying there thinking "OK fine she's hot as hell. We just get the "fun" over quicker" no. The is a Pro from recent,. But she is fickle. And has not produced any fun or Extras.
Then when your wondering what the hell is up with this *****. She will tell you early that the session is over and cost you $60 for the Half hour. Its her thing she does it all the time.
She is a total scam! And the worst massage you could ever get.I've seen Lyn (Lin) for years. She is a great CMT. Never been shorted on time, in fact, there are times when she goes over. I believe she posts her prices and times, so, as with anything, you should make sure you are getting what you paid for. Also as for "fun" my experience is that she tends to treat me as I treat her. Last time I was there, I also noticed another provider that I will have to give a try.
I've seen Lyn (Lin) for years. She is a great CMT. Never been shorted on time, in fact, there are times when she goes over. I believe she posts her prices and times, so, as with anything, you should make sure you are getting what you paid for. Also as for "fun" my experience is that she tends to treat me as I treat her. Last time I was there, I also noticed another provider that I will have to give a try.Is this the same Lyn as that used to be on 36th street? Asian with bolt ons?
I've seen Lyn (Lin) for years. She is a great CMT. Never been shorted on time, in fact, there are times when she goes over. I believe she posts her prices and times, so, as with anything, you should make sure you are getting what you paid for. Also as for "fun" my experience is that she tends to treat me as I treat her. Last time I was there, I also noticed another provider that I will have to give a try.Where exactly is her new place?
Seen Riley about a week back and holy hell was it amazing. Scheduled a hour after a little trouble with communication but not bad. First half of the session was a great massage. She knows what she's doing and I like the massage lotion she uses over the standard oil you get every where else. After the flip she played sensually for about ten minutes while talking. Lots of fun there. Agreed on FS and moved to the bed. She must really enjoy what she does. The next 45 min were bliss. Lots of BBBJ and riding. Never asked to change positions so I left her ride, she seemed to be enjoying herself and the sheets showed it. Finished with CIM. We were way over time, closer to two hours but she never mentioned it or seemed to even look at a clock. I plan to repeat over and over. I tipped high due to the time and overall experience, $$ our the door.
This new massage place in Wyoming off 28th is said to be opened by "Lyn" (she told me this).
Lyn is the hottest massage wannabe I have seen in a while. However she is pure bullshit.
Her favorite thing to do is to sell you on an appointment like a $60 special and then when you get undressed and on the table, 5 minutes in she will tell you that she can only do 30 minutes and make some bullshit excuse as to why.
So your laying there thinking "OK fine she's hot as hell. We just get the "fun" over quicker" no. The is a Pro from recent,. But she is fickle. And has not produced any fun or Extras.
Then when your wondering what the hell is up with this *****. She will tell you early that the session is over and cost you $60 for the Half hour. Its her thing she does it all the time.
She is a total scam! And the worst massage you could ever get.Saw her for two years and never had those issues. I think her CMT skills are great and so is everything else.
DerickSaunders
08-28-18, 22:54
Stopped in at wounder tonight on a whim. Linda met me at the front desk, was shown to my room. In walks the girl with huge tits. I believe she is Puerto Rican. Basing that off a tattoo I saw on her ankle. Anyways, she likes to talk and laugh (honestly I wonder if she was high) she actually massaged all parts of my body (anyone notice arms, neck, and legs seem to barely get touched lately?) she then smacks my ass and asks if I want to flip. She got comfortable on the flip. Her tits are huge and quite nice. She does know how to use them too. Not sure if more is offered or not. Nutted between her tits. She got cleaned up and then got me cleaned up and I was on my way. It was only at this time my suspicion became reality and I had walked in the door and back out the door in 19 minutes total. Was kinda bummed about that but it is what it is. 40+40 was the damage. I'd go back if I was in the area and others were busy first.
Where exactly is her new place?Anyone have any info for phone number or address of new place?
Stopped in at wounder tonight on a whim. Linda met me at the front desk, was shown to my room. In walks the girl with huge tits. I believe she is Puerto Rican. Basing that off a tattoo I saw on her ankle. Anyways, she likes to talk and laugh (honestly I wonder if she was high) she actually massaged all parts of my body (anyone notice arms, neck, and legs seem to barely get touched lately?) she then smacks my ass and asks if I want to flip. She got comfortable on the flip. Her tits are huge and quite nice. She does know how to use them too. Not sure if more is offered or not. Nutted between her tits. She got cleaned up and then got me cleaned up and I was on my way. It was only at this time my suspicion became reality and I had walked in the door and back out the door in 19 minutes total. Was kinda bummed about that but it is what it is. 40+40 was the damage. I'd go back if I was in the area and others were busy first.Was the girl with big tits Olivia?
So finally found some time to go and see what all the rave was about with layla at serenity. Man is she worth it. Set up was easy. Personality is awesome. When I arrived she gave me a hug and had a great smile. Went to the room and I got comfortable. She didn't keep me waiting very long at all. During our session there was a lot of good conversation. Her personality is one of the best. Not a clock watcher and she is a load of fun. I cannot wait to see her again. Massage was good flip was even better. She's worth seeing. And she's very good looking.I agree totally, with your review on Layla.
SuperSport181 recently reviewed Lynn.
I'd like to say that I quit going to MPs for years because SuperSport181 review was typical of most massage girls in GR. It has gotten this bad because we have allowed it. They rip men off and they pay anyway.
If I was SuperSport181 I would have told her no upsell and finished myself while she watched. They usually chip in so they can get a little tip, after they realize you are serious. NO UPSELL.
My go to list includes Amy at Healthy Habits.
Layla at Serenity.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/348928812242
Natasha at Panacea, hoping to see her soon, our schedules haven't been able to line up yet. I have never seen a bad review on Natasha.
All three of these girls will treat you with respect and give you your money's worth.
Is this the same Lyn as that used to be on 36th street? Asian with bolt ons?She is on 28th west between burlingame and byron center on south side.
I agree totally, with your review on Layla.
SuperSport181 recently reviewed Lynn.
I'd like to say that I quit going to MPs for years because SuperSport181 review was typical of most massage girls in GR. It has gotten this bad because we have allowed it. They rip men off and they pay anyway.
If I was SuperSport181 I would have told her no upsell and finished myself while she watched. They usually chip in so they can get a little tip, after they realize you are serious. NO UPSELL.
My go to list includes Amy at Healthy Habits.
Layla at Serenity.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/348928812242
Natasha at Panacea, hoping to see her soon, our schedules haven't been able to line up yet. I have never seen a bad review on Natasha.
All three of these girls will treat you with respect and give you your money's worth.I will have to try any out. How do her services compare to layla? Because hers were amazing. I have heard about natasha and was wondering about her as well.
I have changed how I approach upsellers since I am more informed now. I won't stand for it. Layla mentioned to me I should visit with the new little hottie at serenity. So I may try her as well. She's a cute little thing. But I will definitely be back to see layla.
WhenInDoubt69
08-29-18, 18:53
Curious because it hasn't been brought up. Did Serenity ever get their table shower installed? And if so has anyone partaken?
Love The Lips
08-29-18, 22:46
I will have to try any out. How do her services compare to layla? Because hers were amazing. I have heard about natasha and was wondering about her as well.
I have changed how I approach upsellers since I am more informed now. I won't stand for it. Layla mentioned to me I should visit with the new little hottie at serenity. So I may try her as well. She's a cute little thing. But I will definitely be back to see layla.Natasha is amazing! There's a reason why she books up fast, she's super hot, super sweet, super sexy, never talks about tips, she's got nice technique with the ending, gives a little dirty talk, pretty good massage as well and makes you feel like a million bucks! Every girl working in a parlor should be schooled by Natasha!
Saw Melissa at Panacea not too long ago. Extremely attractive blond with a very nice set of natural breasts.
On the upside, she gave a good massage with excellent teasing and one of the best HE's I've ever had.
However, she was topless only and wanted a larger tip than I would normally offer for over-the-clothes roaming.
$. 40 tip+room for an hour.
Love The Lips
08-30-18, 08:32
Saw Melissa at Panacea not too long ago. Extremely attractive blond with a very nice set of natural breasts.
On the upside, she gave a good massage with excellent teasing and one of the best HE's I've ever had.
However, she was topless only and wanted a larger tip than I would normally offer for over-the-clothes roaming.
$. 40 tip+room for an hour.So are you saying you gave a tip of 140 or 40? The hour room rate at Panacea is 60 so was your total with tip 100 or 200? She sounds like a good looking girl but NO topless HJ is worth 200.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=60765&cityid=222
Looks like she went from a. 20 discount to a. 10 increase. Business must be good.
She is on 28th west between burlingame and byron center on south side.Ooooooo I stopped going to her about 2 years ago because she stop doing extras other than massage.
MichiganMan686
08-30-18, 14:14
Was the girl with big tits Olivia?I had a half hour with Linda the other day. It was great but first time seeing her at wonder. I saw the girl you are talking about on my way out. Really big rack. Looks natural. I'll probably give it a try too. Linda is amazing as well.
MichiganMan686
08-30-18, 14:16
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=60765&cityid=222
Looks like she went from a. 20 discount to a. 10 increase. Business must be good.A lot of people read these reviews. I'm sure her phone is ringing. Probably owes all of the gents that have posted a free session. LOL.
Is there anyone out there in massage land that still offers birthday special?Typically at MBD you can get a deal for a birthday!
DerickSaunders
08-30-18, 21:58
I know I reviewed Angela and healthy habits a few months ago and said she offers more services but I didn't have the cash to try them. Well I went back a few days ago and tried the FS. I've been trying to figure out how I wanted to write this and what I can say is, to me it was a huge waste.
You can PM me for details but it was very uncomfortable at best. Like I'm thinking about being done with the hobby bad. Maybe you've all had a much better experience than I. Damage was 40+$. 5.
So are you saying you gave a tip of 140 or 40? The hour room rate at Panacea is 60 so was your total with tip 100 or 200? She sounds like a good looking girl but NO topless HJ is worth 200.The room rate was 60 and I paid, including that, a total of 140.
I would avoid too. I tried her out of house on nw side and she shorted me on time. Massage was horrible. HE was about the best part and even that was not the greatest.
I know I reviewed Angela and healthy habits a few months ago and said she offers more services but I didn't have the cash to try them. Well I went back a few days ago and tried the FS. I've been trying to figure out how I wanted to write this and what I can say is, to me it was a huge waste.
You can PM me for details but it was very uncomfortable at best. Like I'm thinking about being done with the hobby bad. Maybe you've all had a much better experience than I. Damage was 40+$. 5.
PrimalUrge
08-31-18, 08:18
I know I reviewed Angela and healthy habits a few months ago and said she offers more services but I didn't have the cash to try them. Well I went back a few days ago and tried the FS. I've been trying to figure out how I wanted to write this and what I can say is, to me it was a huge waste.
You can PM me for details but it was very uncomfortable at best. Like I'm thinking about being done with the hobby bad. Maybe you've all had a much better experience than I. Damage was 40+$. 5.Just give yourself a little break. For me, I never order Pizza at a Seafood Restaurant. If you want a massage, maybe a HE, see a Massage Girl. For full service, I see an Escort. Just saying.
I know that some guys like the challenge of getting a MT to go in for FS, but often I find the results are less than great with a higher cost.
Just wondering if blond 25 is back up and working or did she move on last I knew here place was being remodeled and she was taking time off.
MichiganMan686
08-31-18, 11:55
Just wondering if blond 25 is back up and working or did she move on last I knew here place was being remodeled and she was taking time off.I was a regular of blonde25. I wish she was back. I've texted her a few times and she answered. Right now no commitment for a return. I'm still waiting too.
MichiganMan686
08-31-18, 12:07
Went to Wonder. Got Olivia. Half hour rub. Good time. Delivered as expected. Nice girl. No kids. Huge boobs and fun to play with. Some teasing too. I will repeat.
I know I reviewed Angela and healthy habits a few months ago and said she offers more services but I didn't have the cash to try them. Well I went back a few days ago and tried the FS. I've been trying to figure out how I wanted to write this and what I can say is, to me it was a huge waste.
You can PM me for details but it was very uncomfortable at best. Like I'm thinking about being done with the hobby bad. Maybe you've all had a much better experience than I. Damage was 40+$. 5.Rates? 190? A waste of time and money?
DerickSaunders
08-31-18, 18:39
Rates? 190? A waste of time and money?40 for 30 minutes massage and 150 FS. She does nude for 100 and topless is 40.
Stonecoldstan
09-01-18, 07:45
Just wondering if blond 25 is back up and working or did she move on last I knew here place was being remodeled and she was taking time off.She was one of the best, she actually knew how to give a massage and hold a conversation. Her ending were explosive and her body was top notch. I hope she'll be back, last time I talked to her she said taking summer off.
She was one of the best, she actually knew how to give a massage and hold a conversation. Her ending were explosive and her body was top notch. I hope she'll be back, last time I talked to her she said taking summer off.Some of that might change. The word I heard is, you might be able to detect some B. D. When or if she returns.
SlapShot69
09-01-18, 14:10
Some of that might change. The word I heard is, you might be able to detect some B. D. When or if she returns.Maybe those gorgeous boobs will be even bigger then!
I did enjoy her, you new exactly what to expect. I thought her massage was good, and her body slide, or boob rub with her ass in my face was always memorable!
Hope she comes back. She did say she would probably come back at some point, probably working at a parlor versus having her own place.
Stonecoldstan
09-01-18, 14:13
Maybe those gorgeous boobs will be even bigger then!
I did enjoy her, you new exactly what to expect. I thought her massage was good, and her body slide, or boob rub with her ass in my face was always memorable!
Hope she comes back. She did say she would probably come back at some point, probably working at a parlor versus having her own place.I hope she has her own place again, I much rather visit her there than a parlor.
MichiganMan686
09-02-18, 00:45
I thought she may have been pregnant. She never said. She kinda started showing there at the end which was end of May I believe.
I have had a good experience here. Massage is meh at best but I have worked up to more than the usual HE a couple times and I am sure there is more to be had if I desired it. .4 for 30 min cover and .4 to .8 for the benefits I have received. I am curious if there are more than just the one experienced lady here?
I've seen Meghan 2 times now, Very good CMT Massage well worth it for 60 for the hr plus 40 tip.
Nice Hairy Bush which is nice for a change, sometimes its nice to go back ole school haha FIV no problem with Roaming everyplace Flip is great.
I'm sure of it more is available, I've seen a review where FS and Oral is available, I think it may take 5 to 10 visits to get the Royal treatment of course the $ has to be right.
If funds allow I will continue to Toftt and report back.
I have had a good experience here. Massage is meh at best but I have worked up to more than the usual HE a couple times and I am sure there is more to be had if I desired it. .4 for 30 min cover and .4 to .8 for the benefits I have received. I am curious if there are more than just the one experienced lady here?Thanks for posting Angela. Previous posts indicate that your rates are quite a bit higher.
Curious because it hasn't been brought up. Did Serenity ever get their table shower installed? And if so has anyone partaken?I stopped in last week and asked about the water table. They said in about two weeks they should have it.
Thanks for posting Angela. Previous posts indicate that your rates are quite a bit higher.Posts like this make me laugh every time. Do they think we're stupid?
SlapShot69
09-03-18, 11:58
I hope she has her own place again, I much rather visit her there than a parlor.Brittany reached out to me and confirmed she did have a baby. She said her body still looks great, and confirmed her boobs are much bigger! She said she will probably be back towards the end of the year, and is planning to have her own private place, but only work a few days a week. Sounds like a great way to sooth the holiday stress!
Curious because it hasn't been brought up. Did Serenity ever get their table shower installed? And if so has anyone partaken?The table shower continues.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/348928812242
The table shower saga continues.
I've seen the email between Hayley and the manufacturer, looks like its on a slow boat from China. Hayley is a germ a phobe and a health nut. The other girls are close behind. All providers everywhere have said occasionally a client has less than desirable hygiene. At Haley's house the table shower will make it better for everyone to get the best services inside and out. It'll be more fun for everyone.
I shower right before I go on any hobby date including an MP. My requests are usually honored because I'm freshly showered.
Layla always reacts to my Irish Spring soap. She's like a hungry Lioness, wanting to give body slides and GFE (for me). She continues to out do the last date each time.
I think it's the Fresh Irish Spring Thing.
I'm guessing, Layla will insist on a bar of Irish Spring at the table shower at all times. Hopefully it arrives soon.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/348928812242 This is how the post was supposed to read. Some how it got messed up during yesterday's shut down. Hopefully admin was installing an upgrade.
I had the same experience during my last visit. Hope to find out if FS is on the menu.
I've seen Meghan 2 times now, Very good CMT Massage well worth it for 60 for the hr plus 40 tip.
Nice Hairy Bush which is nice for a change, sometimes its nice to go back ole school haha FIV no problem with Roaming everyplace Flip is great.
I'm sure of it more is available, I've seen a review where FS and Oral is available, I think it may take 5 to 10 visits to get the Royal treatment of course the $ has to be right.
If funds allow I will continue to Toftt and report back.
Can anyone recommend a parlor or individual provider for a couples massage? Not looking for more than typical service but I'd like to find a really attractive provider. Thanks!
JimmyTheKid2
09-05-18, 09:12
She was my very first MP experience about a year ago. She was super sweet and provided a great experience. Could definitely play with those swollen fun bags again. Would like to reacquaint if she comes back.
Can anyone recommend a parlor or individual provider for a couples massage? Not looking for more than typical service but I'd like to find a really attractive provider. Thanks!I'm looking for that too. My wife wants a HE too.
Member #4025
09-05-18, 11:06
I've seen Meghan 2 times now, Very good CMT Massage well worth it for 60 for the hr plus 40 tip.
Nice Hairy Bush which is nice for a change, sometimes its nice to go back ole school haha FIV no problem with Roaming everyplace Flip is great.
I'm sure of it more is available, I've seen a review where FS and Oral is available, I think it may take 5 to 10 visits to get the Royal treatment of course the $ has to be right.
If funds allow I will continue to Toftt and report back.I'm from Lansing area. Where does one find Meghan? Thanks, #4025.
28th st. W of Breton.
Saw Coco, okay looking Chinese girl both face an body. Massage was okay also, nothing great but not anything to complain about. No English skills at all. She was the only one working Labor Day morning. Same style Chinese massage as the other girls there, start with towel over back then legs then no towel but way too much time spent on back, not enough on lower body. HE was okay, inserted finger for extra effort I guess. If my physicians had stroked me off while checking my prostate perhaps I would not have minded those prostate exams. Would not especially repeat but was okay for this time.
60/ hr 50/ tip.
I'm from Lansing area. Where does one find Meghan? Thanks, #4025.She posts on one or more of the boards. I can't remember which one (usaadultclassifieds. Nl, skipthegames.com, or cityxguide.com). Her posts usually include a high angle picture of cleavage in a light blouse often with headlights firmly on but no face. I gave each of those sites a cursory glance and did not see a current posting.
Her incall is downtown GR I believe. Unfortunately, I've never managed to work out a compatible schedule to see her so I can't say for certain.
Bronco6566
09-05-18, 17:54
I'm looking for that too. My wife wants a HE too.Try giving Panacea a call. A long while back, when Natalie was there she was telling me that her and another gal had a couple coming in right behind me. Not sure if any of the new gals are up for it but management must be open to it. Just call and ask.
She posts on one or more of the boards. I can't remember which one (usaadultclassifieds. Nl, skipthegames.com, or cityxguide.com). Her posts usually include a high angle picture of cleavage in a light blouse often with headlights firmly on but no face. I gave each of those sites a cursory glance and did not see a current posting.
Her incall is downtown GR I believe. Unfortunately, I've never managed to work out a compatible schedule to see her so I can't say for certain.She post ads on STG website. She is located at a private office near Royal Touch and Pacific on 44th and Kzoo area. She offers a great private relaxing massage, with a nice HE. As others have mentioned, there may be more available after seeing her a few times. I enjoyed my 2 only visits with her. It's been a while since I saw her, but if memory serves me correct, she gets comfortable right from the get go, so plenty of roaming is avialable, along with FIV on my both visit. Enjoy!
Hey all,
Popping my review cherry. So saw aliese about a month ago at her house (in holland). Must say she is amazing and I see why her reviews on here are so positive. Her place is super nice and clean. Has her own table and her massage and finish was great. Did an hour long massage, great convo, great assets and great finish. Will repeat when I have the time since the drive was a long one for me. $. 20. Well worth it.
So I noticed the ad for serenity mind body and soul on the classifieds board. Been up for about a week or so. Any info on this place. Curious about the blonde in particular. Is it tied with hayley and the other serenity? Thanks and be safe.
EdBlanston
09-06-18, 13:05
My job has just brought me back to Grand Rapids for at least a couple years, and I'm glad I could celebrate that with a session with Layla late last week. She was easy to contact, and communication was very professional. The logistics of my 60-minute visit were the same as others already posted here. She didn't make this feel like it was a standard session though! She put me at ease right away. She has a great sense of humor and she's even better looking in person than in her impressive pictures. She listened to what I wanted, and she exceeded every high expectation I had going in. Her massage skills were better than many LMTs I've seen, but after the flip is where Layla stands out. Like I said, it was a fantastic session even though it was the first time I have seen her. It definitely won't be the last.
GingerBeard
09-06-18, 13:40
Hello everyone.
I recently took about a year hiatus from going to MP's and seeing providers. For the time I was chained down.
I am going to start back doing my weekly drive to GR to see some ladies, but right now I'm at a information overload and can't decide where to go.
I'd like to stick to MP's for awhile so that's why I'm posting here.
I used to frequent Pacific weekly. Either seeing Linda or Anita (is Anita still there? I was thinking about going for a walk in there but with all this talk about serenity. I just can't paas it up.
Any suggestions for a full hour massage and a really good HE?
Also, any info on her? She's gone by mya and Ani, both 3 letter names I can't search.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/save-mya-from-boredom/118881192845
Any help would be great. No help is fine too, I haven't contributed in awhile. So I know I need to earn my keep.
Jayce Dragon
09-06-18, 16:36
28th st. W of Breton.
Saw Coco, okay looking Chinese girl both face an body. Massage was okay also, nothing great but not anything to complain about. No English skills at all. She was the only one working Labor Day morning. Same style Chinese massage as the other girls there, start with towel over back then legs then no towel but way too much time spent on back, not enough on lower body. HE was okay, inserted finger for extra effort I guess. If my physicians had stroked me off while checking my prostate perhaps I would not have minded those prostate exams. Would not especially repeat but was okay for this time.
60/ hr 50/ tip.That place just declines every month. But they must have regs that go there often because they are still in business. But I've seen Blessings on Fuller get way more action than them and Blessings is legit with no HEs.
Hello everyone.
I recently took about a year hiatus from going to MP's and seeing providers. For the time I was chained down.
I am going to start back doing my weekly drive to GR to see some ladies, but right now I'm at a information overload and can't decide where to go.
I'd like to stick to MP's for awhile so that's why I'm posting here.
I used to frequent Pacific weekly. Either seeing Linda or Anita (is Anita still there? I was thinking about going for a walk in there but with all this talk about serenity. I just can't paas it up.
Any suggestions for a full hour massage and a really good HE?
Also, any info on her? She's gone by mya and Ani, both 3 letter names I can't search.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/save-mya-from-boredom/118881192845
Any help would be great. No help is fine too, I haven't contributed in awhile. So I know I need to earn my keep.Well, you will never regret seeing Natasha at Panacea. She works Thurs. Call at 10 am but don't expect to get in to see her before 11:30 even then.
Aliese is also very good. She's pseudo independent. She advertises on usaadultclassifieds. Nl and works out of an incall in Holland or Royal in GR depending on your needs. I find texting her number works best.
Serenity on Plainfield in GR has gotten rave reviews since Hayley took it over. I've seen Hayley and, while the stars didn't exactly align for me, I can see why she's popular. She's enthusiatic (to the point of bruises) and if that's your thing, there's probably no one better. I think they are running pretty well for walk-ins but I am sure appointments can be made.
Mia at Healthy Habits is a wild ride with great big breasts. A little spendy perhaps though.
Emily at MBD was fun for me. She's good looking and gives a good rub and a great tug.
Hope that helps! You can find most of these on usaadultclassifieds. Nl most days. I haven't seen Mia post much lately but I haven't been watching skipthegames.com or cityxguide.com real closely and she may be posting there.
GingerBeard
09-07-18, 09:31
Well, you will never regret seeing Natasha at Panacea. She works Thurs. Call at 10 am but don't expect to get in to see her before 11:30 even then.
Aliese is also very good. She's pseudo independent. She advertises on usaadultclassifieds. Nl and works out of an incall in Holland or Royal in GR depending on your needs. I find texting her number works best.
Serenity on Plainfield in GR has gotten rave reviews since Hayley took it over. I've seen Hayley and, while the stars didn't exactly align for me, I can see why she's popular. She's enthusiatic (to the point of bruises) and if that's your thing, there's probably no one better. I think they are running pretty well for walk-ins but I am sure appointments can be made.
Mia at Healthy Habits is a wild ride with great big breasts. A little spendy perhaps though.
Emily at MBD was fun for me. She's good looking and gives a good rub and a great tug.
Hope that helps! You can find most of these on usaadultclassifieds. Nl most days. I haven't seen Mia post much lately but I haven't been watching skipthegames.com or cityxguide.com real closely and she may be posting there.Thankyou for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
I've seen Natasha and Emily. Natasha has a good reputation for a very good reason and Emily was super sweet and nice. Did a couple of the body slides with her and it was fun. It's just a bit further of a drive and would rather stay on the southern or south east side of GR.
I love some big naturals so I may have to give Mia a try.
Thankyou for the tips on where to look, I’m already scrolling through Usaadultclassifieds, skipthegames and cityxguide. I am just having a hard time making a choice with so many options.
I think for the first trip I'm going to roll the dice at pacific, unless someone convinces me otherwise. I'll be sure to post a report when I do.
Saw Wynter this week and got an upgrade.
Seniors can pm me for details.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/winter-love/605740934177
JimmyTheKid2
09-07-18, 12:02
Just a heads up Benz, your inbox is currently full.
MichiganMan686
09-08-18, 04:21
Saw Linda the other day. She is so kind. Probably about the 10th time I've seen her now mostly at Pacific. Always a great rub. Teasing half way through. Really nice ending. She gets comfortable generally at the end. Really nice boobs. Has a really nice technique with light tough and teasing. Never a clock watcher. 40/60 total $. 0. Always a great time.
Thankyou for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
I've seen Natasha and Emily. Natasha has a good reputation for a very good reason and Emily was super sweet and nice. Did a couple of the body slides with her and it was fun. It's just a bit further of a drive and would rather stay on the southern or south east side of GR.
I love some big naturals so I may have to give Mia a try.
Thankyou for the tips on where to look, Im already scrolling through Usaadultclassifieds, skipthegames and cityxguide. I am just having a hard time making a choice with so many options.
I think for the first trip I'm going to roll the dice at pacific, unless someone convinces me otherwise. I'll be sure to post a report when I do.Mia posts fake pics, she has no boobs and a big belly. I went and visited and walked out when I seen her. Do NOT waste your time!
Mia posts fake pics, she has no boobs and a big belly. I went and visited and walked out when I seen her. Do NOT waste your time!Well, she is a BBW but she has enormous boobs. I don't know who you saw but if she had no boobs, it wasn't Mia.
GingerBeard
09-08-18, 14:04
Did a walk in at pacific 44th.
Drew Melanie.
Unenthusiastic massage, more like just moving her hands on my back.
Unenthusiastic mechanical HE. Had the "this is a chore for me" face the entire time.
Tried making conversation but there was no personality to be found.
Quoted. 60 for topless and. 100 for her birthday suit. I declined, really wouldn't have been appealing anyway.
Tipped the door fee and I was out in 20 minutes.
Would not recommend, will not do a walk in at pacific again.
Did a walk in at pacific 44th.
Drew Melanie.
Unenthusiastic massage, more like just moving her hands on my back.
Unenthusiastic mechanical HE. Had the "this is a chore for me" face the entire time.
Tried making conversation but there was no personality to be found.
Quoted. 60 for topless and. 100 for her birthday suit. I declined, really wouldn't have been appealing anyway.
Tipped the door fee and I was out in 20 minutes.
Would not recommend, will not do a walk in at pacific again.Said everybody that set foot in that place over the last year or so. Come on, Kiet!
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Has anyone tried their "gentlemen services"? The blonde MILF looks tempting.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=59642&cityid=222
Has anyone tried their "gentlemen services"? The blonde MILF looks tempting.I would almost guarantee that is not her real picture. We do not have anything like that available in this area, unfortunately. If I am wrong please someone get with me as I am tired of going to Detroit and Chicago.
I only see Rebekka, Macy, Nina or Selena.
Not sure if all 4 still are there. I really liked Shelby too but I think she's gone.
No one gives a great massage but all 4 are decent anyway.
Also, don't ask for quotes for clothing removal! I just say "will u get naked?" Right as I flip and never had a single girl mention a price for it.
Some say only top. Most just strip. I also don't ask for roaming. I just do it. If its not ok she will stop you.
At the end I tip based on total service. Period. No f.ing way I'm paying 60 to see tits. Get real!
Said everybody that set foot in that place over the last year or so. Come on, Kiet!
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=59642&cityid=222
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Looks like the Grand opening of Serenity on 72nd street is making its grand entrance with fake pics.
GingerBeard
09-10-18, 13:11
I only see Rebekka, Macy, Nina or Selena.
Not sure if all 4 still are there. I really liked Shelby too but I think she's gone.
No one gives a great massage but all 4 are decent anyway.
Also, don't ask for quotes for clothing removal! I just say "will u get naked?" Right as I flip and never had a single girl mention a price for it.
Some say only top. Most just strip. I also don't ask for roaming. I just do it. If its not ok she will stop you.
At the end I tip based on total service. Period. No f.ing way I'm paying 60 to see tits. Get real!I agree. I definitely didn't ask for any quotes.
I flipped. She quoted. I stayed silent. I knew I was in for a disappointment after that.
LandRover20
09-10-18, 13:39
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Looks like the Grand opening of Serenity on 72nd street is making its grand entrance with fake pics.Benz, glad you spotted the fake pics, too. I wondered. Why would a place with such a great rep do that?
Benz, glad you spotted the fake pics, too. I wondered. Why would a place with such a great rep do that?The New Serenity. Is posting fake Pics.
Looks like someone is trying to Duplicate a good name.
Many have tried to do the same thing with popular providers.
The Best example in the past was all of the Candies that popped up when The Real Kandi was getting Rave reviews.
Hopefully we can all tell the difference The new Serenity is using fake pics.
The Good Serenity is on Plainfield.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/hayley-body-rubs/426631367338
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/789614889354
150 hh in your 2nd link. 150? Are you fking kidding me?
That better be Mikki and her pornstar level service for 150 hh.
I hope no one is paying that!
The New Serenity. Is posting fake Pics.
The Good Serenity is on Plainfield.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/hayley-body-rubs/426631367338
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/789614889354
I'd have laughed hard out loud if she told me that.
Part of the problem is backpage going down increased mp business a lot.
So the mps get busier and the girls expect higher prices. I counter this by being consistant on tipping and reminding her I always ask for her so she knows I'm a repeat regular. In most cases it works after 1st time or two seeing the same girl.
I only repeat with a girl who gets naked without giving me a quote and allows at least top roaming and ass squeezing.
I agree. I definitely didn't ask for any quotes.
I flipped. She quoted. I stayed silent. I knew I was in for a disappointment after that.
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Looks like the Grand opening of Serenity on 72nd street is making its grand entrance with fake pics.Thanks for the heads up. I guess I don't have an appointment tomorrow afterall.
Saw Leslie at Panacea on a Monday. As with the first time, the massage was ok and the HE was outstanding. I got an hour and tipped $ for a total of $. 60. The first time was not a fluke. She's not a 20 y / o spinner to be sure but she goes the extra mile.
150 hh in your 2nd link. 150? Are you fking kidding me?
That better be Mikki and her pornstar level service for 150 hh.
I hope no one is paying that!I agree, that price for a half hr massage is way too much. That probably at best only includes a BBBJ. Not paying that for a BBBJ. Happy hunting all.
Mongerlian
09-10-18, 18:56
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/blonde-bubbly/795098293897
Anything on this one? No name that I could see.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/blonde-bubbly/795098293897
Anything on this one? No name that I could see.No but. She intrigues me. Has the looks I favor. I have a pending thing going on but. Comms will be established.
BTW this will be my first MP visit EVER. I have always been kind of meh about them because I am a FS type of guy but lately with these girls barely being there or being unreliable at best, fuck it (with exception for Kamilia and MaryJane of course! They are awesome! I will bite on this.
That being said. Any tips for a newbie scrub?
Charlie441
09-10-18, 20:31
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/blonde-bubbly/795098293897
Anything on this one? No name that I could see.I saw her not too long ago. She's cute, looks reasonably like her pictures. Massage was okay. For the hhr, I threw down $60 as the "preemptive tip" by request, to give a little push for more than an unenthusiastic carrot waxing. Pretty much a standard massage for 15 m, then on the flip asking her to get comfortable, she held to topless only, and suggesting anything more she said she never does anything more than what she did. Which was an unenthusiastic milking of the carrot. I could maybe understand that at $40 left on the table, but $60 for a hhr, noting that I have been there several times before? Got the job done, but expected a little more. But to be fair, she doesn't have the chest to give a good Russian, tho.
GrayFoxMg1
09-10-18, 21:22
So I'm in a particular mood, anyone got any recommendations on some providers with a set of bolt ons?
No but. She intrigues me. Has the looks I favor. I have a pending thing going on but. Comms will be established.
BTW this will be my first MP visit EVER. I have always been kind of meh about them because I am a FS type of guy but lately with these girls barely being there or being unreliable at best, fuck it (with exception for Kamilia and MaryJane of course! They are awesome! I will bite on this.
That being said. Any tips for a newbie scrub?Go in with reasonable expectations. You almost certainly won't get more than a handy and she'll want too much for that. There are a handful of women who will offer a BJ (most covered) and one or two who offer FS. The cost is usually enormous. Decide what you will pay for the experience no matter what she looks like and hold to your decision. This may cause an awkward moment but it will make for a better experience on whole.
For reference, I generally tip as follows (though I do occasionally lose my mind over a REALLY good pair of natural tits):
- 40 hh, 60 hr: A decent massage, a handy, and permitted roaming over clothes is worth doubling the room rate for tip.
- +10 (50,70): topless plus above with roaming (if all I get to do is see tits, it's not going to induce me to tip).
- +20 (60,80): full nude and / or good roaming (nipple licking, FIV, etc.).
- +40 (80,100): BBBJ plus above.
- +100 (140,160): FS plus above (rare and massage tables are not so stable).
So, for me, a standard HE for an hour runs 120 total (room + tip). If she gives me a good BJ, it would be 160 total (room + tip). That's about the highest expectation I have going in.
Some go lower and some go higher. I've had a few women left unhappy when she thought an over-the-clothes grope was worth a lot more than I do. For the most part, however, this gets me what I want. I don't go in wanting more than this will get me (if that makes sense). If the top comes off and the tits are incredible, I'll sometimes push the tip 10 or 20 and drive away kicking myself. If the overall performance is outstanding even if some of the elements are not there, I'll tip up some (Natasha at Panacea for example).
Saw Leslie at Panacea on a Monday. As with the first time, the massage was ok and the HE was outstanding. I got an hour and tipped $ for a total of $. 60. The first time was not a fluke. She's not a 20 y / o spinner to be sure but she goes the extra mile.Was the BJ a BBBJ?
Looks - 6. 5.
Body - 4. 5.
Attitude 8. 5.
She gives a decent massage and is very accommodating. She is a smaller BBW and has a very large belly. Her breast are large and she really enjoys using them. The flip is well above average and the BBBJ is very good. If body does not concern you she could be great for you. I will likely not return as I have to have some attraction to spend any money, easily pull better out of a bar 9 days a week so I like the hobby to get quality and not have to work for it.
Won't be going back there again.
Stopped in for a massage. Door was $. 40 for HH, as usual. Brought to the room and told to leave a tip on the table for my MT. That's a little weird right there. I don't tip my waitress until after the service is done. Why tip before this is done?
I put down another $. 60. (I always take $1. 00 with me and split it the same way, never had an issue). The girl that came in was not real attractive. Not a bbw, but did have a big gut. She took off her top before starting on my back massage. She asked if I like soft or medium pressure. I told her it was up to her, I'm good with either. She liked that, it makes it easier. Lame Massage! Almost no movement. Her hands were seriously almost standing still. Only 5 minutes in she said to go ahead and flip. I'd kind of like a 'massage' with my massage too. She immediately went to work on Big Jim & the twins. Now we're 6 minutes in. She asked for a larger tip already. I jokingly said something about slowing down a little bit or my massage will be over way before my 30 minutes are up. She gave me a pissed off look and told me to flip back over and she'd massage my back. Now she wanted more tip to do both a massage and a HE. It was one or the other, Not Both! I flipped back over, she went back to work on the boys. Now I'm annoyed and nothing is happening. She wouldn't allow me to touch her, even though she had her top removed. We finally decided that this wasn't working and I got up. Terrible Personality! I would NEVER go to see her again and probably won't go back there. She called me a clock watcher, LOL. I'd like my 30 minutes to last 30 minutes. I always bring $1. 00 with me, everywhere I go, I've NEVER had an issue like this greedy woman. If we click, I'll bring more next time.
I know this was not Anna, Chloe or Meghan. I'm not sure what this girls name is. Heavier girl, kind of ratty, dirty blonde, not a very attractive face either.
Stonecoldstan
09-13-18, 11:12
Won't be going back there again.
Stopped in for a massage. Door was $. 40 for HH, as usual. Brought to the room and told to leave a tip on the table for my MT. That's a little weird right there. I don't tip my waitress until after the service is done. Why tip before this is done?
I put down another $. 60. (I always take $1. 00 with me and split it the same way, never had an issue). The girl that came in was not real attractive. Not a bbw, but did have a big gut. She took off her top before starting on my back massage. She asked if I like soft or medium pressure. I told her it was up to her, I'm good with either. She liked that, it makes it easier. Lame Massage! Almost no movement. Her hands were seriously almost standing still. Only 5 minutes in she said to go ahead and flip. I'd kind of like a 'massage' with my massage too. She immediately went to work on Big Jim & the twins. Now we're 6 minutes in. She asked for a larger tip already. I jokingly said something about slowing down a little bit or my massage will be over way before my 30 minutes are up. She gave me a pissed off look and told me to flip back over and she'd massage my back. Now she wanted more tip to do both a massage and a HE. It was one or the other, Not Both! I flipped back over, she went back to work on the boys. Now I'm annoyed and nothing is happening. She wouldn't allow me to touch her, even though she had her top removed. We finally decided that this wasn't working and I got up. Terrible Personality! I would NEVER go to see her again and probably won't go back there. She called me a clock watcher, LOL. I'd like my 30 minutes to last 30 minutes. I always bring $1. 00 with me, everywhere I go, I've NEVER had an issue like this greedy woman. If we click, I'll bring more next time.
I know this was not Anna, Chloe or Meghan. I'm not sure what this girls name is. Heavier girl, kind of ratty, dirty blonde, not a very attractive face either.I went there once got a half assed massage and lame ending from Lexi. I said I'd never go back and haven't.
My job has just brought me back to Grand Rapids for at least a couple years, and I'm glad I could celebrate that with a session with Layla late last week. She was easy to contact, and communication was very professional. The logistics of my 60-minute visit were the same as others already posted here. She didn't make this feel like it was a standard session though! She put me at ease right away. She has a great sense of humor and she's even better looking in person than in her impressive pictures. She listened to what I wanted, and she exceeded every high expectation I had going in. Her massage skills were better than many LMTs I've seen, but after the flip is where Layla stands out. Like I said, it was a fantastic session even though it was the first time I have seen her. It definitely won't be the last.I totally agree with Blanston's review.
I'm guessing DaddyD wishes he followed the reviews closer instead of walking into Royal. (I think DaddyD saw Angel / Royal)
If you're a senior or Frenz with Benz you can PM me to get a password for extras on round one with Layla or Wynter and not get the usual line of maybe next time.
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OneDaveDog
09-13-18, 12:21
I don't post often, but had another fabulous appointment with Amy this week! Not much more that can be said that hasn't already, she was a TINY bit late getting there but more than made it up, very hot, just the build that makes me almost drool! Half hour, payed door plus tip and a little extra, she went way over on time. Great massage and awesome flip, topless, and topshelf.
I tried Royal years ago. Similar experience. Lousy massage from not so hot girl who then expected BP full service rates for a topless no touch HE. I never returned and never will.
I sometimes wonder how many morons go there and pay theses rates for lousy service.
I went there once got a half assed massage and lame ending from Lexi. I said I'd never go back and haven't.
HungryForIt
09-13-18, 13:24
Hey guys,
Hungry here, long time monger-- only been posting for a while.
I have a few UTR's that I like to see, and I've gone to MBD quite a bit over the past year or two. Aside from that though, I like to be pretty spontaneous-- get on the road, pick a place at random and see what kind of girls / menu they have. That being said, where do you think I'll have the best luck of finding good HE's at MP's in the area? I feel like all I hear about are HH, Panacea, Relaxation Station and Wonder. Which would you say you can just walk into and pretty much have the same expereince every time? I like to be spontaneous and just walk into places without worrying about an appointment.
Let me know what you think-- or if there really aren't any places that match my description LOL.
Thanks!
Charlie441
09-13-18, 14:01
She took off her top before starting on my back massage. She asked if I like soft or medium pressure. I told her it was up to her, I'm good with either. She liked that, it makes it easier. Lame Massage! Almost no movement. Her hands were seriously almost standing still. Only 5 minutes in she said to go ahead and flip. I'd kind of like a 'massage' with my massage too. She immediately went to work on Big Jim & the twins. Now we're 6 minutes in. She asked for a larger tip already. I jokingly said something about slowing down a little bit or my massage will be over way before my 30 minutes are up. She gave me a pissed off look and told me to flip back over and she'd massage my back. Now she wanted more tip to do both a massage and a HE. It was one or the other, Not Both! I flipped back over, she went back to work on the boys. Now I'm annoyed and nothing is happening. She wouldn't allow me to touch her, even though she had her top removed. We finally decided that this wasn't working and I got up. Terrible Personality! I would NEVER go to see her again and probably won't go back there. She called me a clock watcher, LOL. I'd like my 30 minutes to last 30 minutes. I always bring $1. 00 with me, everywhere I go, I've NEVER had an issue like this greedy woman. If we click, I'll bring more next time.It was good she took her top off to start it. Good, but unfortunately false impression there. If she's going to flip ya 5 minutes in, they need to understand that you can't get a 9-10 minute massage out of it. And pointing that out, no, you're not a clock watcher, FFS. THEY are for trying to get-in-get-out ASAP. Especially when they don't want you even touching them at all when doing that. Yikes.
I think they Can get spoiled by giving a robotic HJ to a guy and sweeping him out in well under 15 m, and get Entitlement Syndrome that that's what's supposed to happen, and you're supposed to be happy, dammit! LOL. Crazy. I've had mostly Very sub-par experiences at Royal.
I went there once got a half assed massage and lame ending from Lexi. I said I'd never go back and haven't.I saw Lexi about a year ago. Is she still working there? My experience with her was good then.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=59642&cityid=222
Has anyone tried their "gentlemen services"? The blonde MILF looks tempting.I stopped in to check it out, but it looked like a gangster meeting outside. The guys were scary and the women were huge. Sorry, but I left.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/your-private-body-connoisseur-12356742
Looking for a recommendation here. PM if you like.
ClassyGentGr
09-15-18, 09:07
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/your-private-body-connoisseur-12356742
Looking for a recommendation here. PM if you like.You will find my brief review of her on post 6524 - then there are a few follow ups.
GingerBeard
09-15-18, 10:35
This ad keeps catching my eye. I asked about it previously but thought I'd ask again.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/specials-with-mya/626832370614
This ad keeps catching my eye. I asked about it previously but thought I'd ask again.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/specials-with-mya/626832370614I posted a while back, COMPLETELY fake and not even a remote resemblance!! Flag her fake pics and avoid!
I went to see Anna for a 1 hr massage. . 6 she massage me and then I massage her and then back to me. She said ok flip so the HE was alright and we were done. Should have mentioned before we started she wanted the tip placed on the desk before hand. Tip. 5 she said if I wanted more I would have to bring more. 20's when I left my appointment was only 35 minutes and I paid an hr. Will not repeat.
GingerBeard
09-16-18, 09:13
I posted a while back, COMPLETELY fake and not even a remote resemblance!! Flag her fake pics and avoid!Ahh ok, that makes sense. I thought you were talking about Mia not Mya.
Thanks for saving me from that decision.
I went to see Anna for a 1 hr massage. . 6 she massage me and then I massage her and then back to me. She said ok flip so the HE was alright and we were done. Should have mentioned before we started she wanted the tip placed on the desk before hand. Tip. 5 she said if I wanted more I would have to bring more. 20's when I left my appointment was only 35 minutes and I paid an hr. Will not repeat.Gone are the days of Amber at Royal, with a CMT quality massage and her Long boney fingers creating an excellent Prostrate massage. Amber always gave the full hour and then some.
I did find a good replacement with a long boney finger, coached her on the right moves and BAM.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/need-to-relax-i-got-your-backc/789614889354
SlapShot69
09-17-18, 08:00
Ahh ok, that makes sense. I thought you were talking about Mia not Mya.
Thanks for saving me from that decision.Anyone seen this Mya? I have seen Mia at HRH, fun time.
If these are real pics of Mya, would be interested, just wondered if anyone has actually seen her.
Go in with reasonable expectations. You almost certainly won't get more than a handy and she'll want too much for that. There are a handful of women who will offer a BJ (most covered) and one or two who offer FS. The cost is usually enormous. Decide what you will pay for the experience no matter what she looks like and hold to your decision. This may cause an awkward moment but it will make for a better experience on whole.
For reference, I generally tip as follows (though I do occasionally lose my mind over a REALLY good pair of natural tits):
- 40 hh, 60 hr: A decent massage, a handy, and permitted roaming over clothes is worth doubling the room rate for tip.
- +10 (50,70): topless plus above with roaming (if all I get to do is see tits, it's not going to induce me to tip).
- +20 (60,80): full nude and / or good roaming (nipple licking, FIV, etc.).
- +40 (80,100): BBBJ plus above.
- +100 (140,160): FS plus above (rare and massage tables are not so stable).
So, for me, a standard HE for an hour runs 120 total (room + tip). If she gives me a good BJ, it would be 160 total (room + tip). That's about the highest expectation I have going in.
Some go lower and some go higher. I've had a few women left unhappy when she thought an over-the-clothes grope was worth a lot more than I do. For the most part, however, this gets me what I want. I don't go in wanting more than this will get me (if that makes sense). If the top comes off and the tits are incredible, I'll sometimes push the tip 10 or 20 and drive away kicking myself. If the overall performance is outstanding even if some of the elements are not there, I'll tip up some (Natasha at Panacea for example).Beautiful. Thank you dude. Invaluable feedback. Ill try ti deviate to your scale as it seems logical.
FYI no go on the toftt. Every text / call went unanswered. From other reviews I'm ok with this.
DerickSaunders
09-17-18, 23:15
Just curious, I've only had one girl here who I did not care for (Leslie) but does anyone know if there are any girls at panaceas that offer more than a topless HJ? I'm changing jobs so my schedule will be changing and will be able to see some of the day shift girls. Any help would be useful. Thanks.
Wolverines
09-18-18, 00:52
Thanks for the feedback.
I posted a while back, COMPLETELY fake and not even a remote resemblance!! Flag her fake pics and avoid!
This ad keeps catching my eye. I asked about it previously but thought I'd ask again.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/specials-with-mya/626832370614
Just curious, I've only had one girl here who I did not care for (Leslie) but does anyone know if there are any girls at panaceas that offer more than a topless HJ? I'm changing jobs so my schedule will be changing and will be able to see some of the day shift girls. Any help would be useful. Thanks.You can't go wrong with Natasha. What don't you like about Leslie, I heard she might be one of the more 'liberal" ladies there?
Member #6623
09-18-18, 18:39
Yeah not her. Not even close unless she gets major surgery. I'm so baffled as to why I even paid for what I did.
Just stay away from royal.
Thanks for the feedback.
DerickSaunders
09-18-18, 19:20
You can't go wrong with Natasha. What don't you like about Leslie, I heard she might be one of the more 'liberal" ladies there?Check out my review #6545. She's very rushed when I've seen her, opens her shirt just enough to show her nipples. And when your done she takes the hot towels straight from the heater and right on to your sensitive skin, I'm surprised I didn't get 1st degree burns. This was both times I saw her.
Check out my review #6545. She's very rushed when I've seen her, opens her shirt just enough to show her nipples. And when your done she takes the hot towels straight from the heater and right on to your sensitive skin, I'm surprised I didn't get 1st degree burns. This was both times I saw her.Natasha, while she does put on a very hot show, doesn't do much more than a topless HJ when all is said and done (unless she's been fibbing to me for years). It's the way she teases and acts that makes her so good I think.
Alternatively, I've had a far better time with Leslie than Derick describes. I suspect we are seeing the effects of YMMV here.
MichiganMan686
09-19-18, 02:02
Just curious, I've only had one girl here who I did not care for (Leslie) but does anyone know if there are any girls at panaceas that offer more than a topless HJ? I'm changing jobs so my schedule will be changing and will be able to see some of the day shift girls. Any help would be useful. Thanks.I haven't been there in about 6 months but I used to go there a lot before. I always got the vibe the owner kinda set the rule not to do more than HJ. I've probably had 20 to 30 sessions there. Again it was about 6 months ago so maybe it is different now.
GingerBeard
09-20-18, 07:03
Saw Nina at pacific for a hh. Beautiful skinny AA.
Slow and sensual massage that I really enjoyed. Took her time on the massage which was a refreshing experience. Minimal teasing before the flip but that's just me being nit picky.
Lots of teasing on the flip. Followed by a great HE. Non rushed, took her time building. Overall good experience.
Would recommend and will repeat. . 4 +. 6.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/come-in-and-relax/643465251925
Does anyone have any recommendations (other than Mia at HH) for some big naturals?
Nina is one of my favorites. She also looks way hotter than those ad pics.
She will get naked and allows full roaming.
You tip more than I do. I tip 40 for half hour + door fee with he. If I'm paying 80 I'll see an escort for a BBBJ. I guess I'm cheap.
Saw Nina at pacific for a hh. Beautiful skinny AA.
Slow and sensual massage that I really enjoyed. Took her time on the massage which was a refreshing experience. Minimal teasing before the flip but that's just me being nit picky.
Lots of teasing on the flip. Followed by a great HE. Non rushed, took her time building. Overall good experience.
Would recommend and will repeat. . 4 +. 6.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/come-in-and-relax/643465251925
Does anyone have any recommendations (other than Mia at HH) for some big naturals?
Member #4025
09-20-18, 12:55
Nina is one of my favorites. She also looks way hotter than those ad pics.
She will get naked and allows full roaming.
You tip more than I do. I tip 40 for half hour + door fee with he. If I'm paying 80 I'll see an escort for a BBBJ. I guess I'm cheap.01 - I'm with you; I read many of these posts with tipping more than the door fee for HE. I rarely tip more than 40 for massage w / HE even if it's an hr massage - 40 + 40 is a nice deal if she gets naked and allows full roaming. I need to visit her next time I'm in GR.
I meant if I'm paying OVER 80. Obviously door plus 40 is 80 LOL.
You tip more than I do. I tip 40 for half hour + door fee with he. If I'm paying 80 I'll see an escort for a BBBJ. I guess I'm cheap..
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/professional-therapeutic-massa/820223038238
This one looks familiar. Now working in a new place. Can somebody remind me what she is all about?
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/professional-therapeutic-massa/820223038238
This one looks familiar. Now working in a new place. Can somebody remind me what she is all about?Used to go by Beth, off of Plainfield near E Beltline, not far from Wonder. Never saw her (was tempted) but very bad reviews. Lots of promises, lots of rules, etc.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/professional-therapeutic-massa/820223038238
This one looks familiar. Now working in a new place. Can somebody remind me what she is all about?She used to be around here. Went to the East Coast. Apparently back now. Catch her on a good day, she'll be fine. Catch her on a bad day, well, bad. There was a review on Switter that seemed positive. But, it's a crap shoot.
Used to go by Beth, off of Plainfield near E Beltline, not far from Wonder. Never saw her (was tempted) but very bad reviews. Lots of promises, lots of rules, etc.I concur, this is Beth. She was such a fickle *****. You couldn't say anything without her getting upset. It was like flipping a switch. You could never ask for the HE. If you did, she would lecture you. Mind you, it was common knowledge that HE was available and on the table. Also, there is a picture of her tits here on STG, and I don't remember them looking that good in person. I wonder if this photo is real? She may have lost weight, but I remember her being much heavier than the person in this boob shot on STG. Hopefully she has loosened up a little. She gives a nice massage, and could probably make a lot of money if she just eased up and cut the BS.
Booked Winter for an hour (80 at Serenity). She's a very pretty woman on the youngish side (early 20's).
She started off with a decent massage. I got a little concerned when the flip happened 15 minutes in. She asked if I came to play and offered topless for 0. 6 and nude for $1. 2. I went for topless; 120 is a lot to me for nothing more than a pretty naked woman. More surprising is she tells me she usually gets 200 for full nude.
She allowed some roaming across her back side but not up top. She started the HE and, a few minutes in asked for me to take over. I said no to that and was told she wasn't there to jack guys off. This ended the session at about 29 minutes.
Mileage varies; I have heard better things about Winter (the reason I went at all) and I had a session with Haley some time ago which was far better (though spendy). Winter is attractive so I won't waste anyone's time by suggesting what they should or shouldn't do.
I won't be back. Total out, $150 (80 for the room, 10 for the CC upcharge, and 60 for the tip) for a reasonable massage and a very unhappy ending.
MichiganMan686
09-22-18, 16:09
Booked Winter for an hour (80 at Serenity). She's a very pretty woman on the youngish side (early 20's).
She started off with a decent massage. I got a little concerned when the flip happened 15 minutes in. She asked if I came to play and offered topless for 0. 6 and nude for $1. 2. I went for topless; 120 is a lot to me for nothing more than a pretty naked woman. More surprising is she tells me she usually gets 200 for full nude.
She allowed some roaming across her back side but not up top. She started the HE and, a few minutes in asked for me to take over. I said no to that and was told she wasn't there to jack guys off. This ended the session at about 29 minutes.
Mileage varies; I have heard better things about Winter (the reason I went at all) and I had a session with Haley some time ago which was far better (though spendy). Winter is attractive so I won't waste anyone's time by suggesting what they should or shouldn't do.
I won't be back. Total out, $150 (80 for the room, 10 for the CC upcharge, and 60 for the tip) for a reasonable massage and a very unhappy ending.All of us on here have the power to pay for and get what we want. Let's all say don't go see her or that establishment.
Booked Winter for an hour (80 at Serenity). She's a very pretty woman on the youngish side (early 20's).
She started off with a decent massage. I got a little concerned when the flip happened 15 minutes in. She asked if I came to play and offered topless for 0. 6 and nude for $1. 2. I went for topless; 120 is a lot to me for nothing more than a pretty naked woman. More surprising is she tells me she usually gets 200 for full nude.
She allowed some roaming across her back side but not up top. She started the HE and, a few minutes in asked for me to take over. I said no to that and was told she wasn't there to jack guys off. This ended the session at about 29 minutes.
Mileage varies; I have heard better things about Winter (the reason I went at all) and I had a session with Haley some time ago which was far better (though spendy). Winter is attractive so I won't waste anyone's time by suggesting what they should or shouldn't do.
I won't be back. Total out, $150 (80 for the room, 10 for the CC upcharge, and 60 for the tip) for a reasonable massage and a very unhappy ending.Adding link: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/come-see-me/686186967469.
I concur, this is Beth. She was such a fickle *****. You couldn't say anything without her getting upset. It was like flipping a switch. You could never ask for the HE. If you did, she would lecture you. Mind you, it was common knowledge that HE was available and on the table. Also, there is a picture of her tits here on STG, and I don't remember them looking that good in person. I wonder if this photo is real? She may have lost weight, but I remember her being much heavier than the person in this boob shot on STG. Hopefully she has loosened up a little. She gives a nice massage, and could probably make a lot of money if she just eased up and cut the BS.IIRC, she used the name Liz during her time in the DC-MD-VA area. Here are some recent posts about her (none of them good):
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8004-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3937918&viewfull=1#post3937918
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8004-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3938012&viewfull=1#post3938012
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8004-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3939054&viewfull=1#post3939054
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8004-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3939495&viewfull=1#post3939495
All of us on here have the power to pay for and get what we want. Let's all say don't go see her or that establishment.Thanks for walking away! I will be sticking with Chinese food until the prices come down.
Adding link: http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/come-see-me/686186967469.Be ready to be attacked, I made a comment on the prices their way back, and a few mongers came out guns blazing, maybe the two are pd for promo from serenity I don't know, but alls I can say I in my opion there prices are ridiculous, j / s, maybe they won't attack you but I for one was.
MattParty12
09-23-18, 09:36
Hi everybody,
Just noticed this place on 28th st SW between byron center and Burlingame. Anybody got any info on this one?
Be ready to be attacked, I made a comment on the prices their way back, and a few mongers came out guns blazing, maybe the two are pd for promo from serenity I don't know, but alls I can say I in my opion there prices are ridiculous, j / s, maybe they won't attack you but I for one was.If it happens, it happens. Not going to lose sleep over it. I agree with you; the prices there are high. I'm willing to go an extra 20 if the reputation turns out to be true. I'm not willing to buy an hour and less than half way in be asked to self-service. As I wrote before, I won't be back.
JustMe1973
09-23-18, 15:08
Does anyone know of an AMP in the area that does back walks? (Some places actually have bars on the ceiling for it).
If it happens, it happens. Not going to lose sleep over it. I agree with you; the prices there are high. I'm willing to go an extra 20 if the reputation turns out to be true. I'm not willing to buy an hour and less than half way in be asked to self-service. As I wrote before, I won't be back.I totally agree with Mr. Bismark, Paying extra for extra is OK.
If you're not getting good service with a smile, don't pay the price or tip anything and don't go back.
It's our money, we should only be giving to the best providers for the best service. That's why this forum exists.
As far as self service goes, I've done it many times when a massage provider has me on the table, dick in hand and tries the Upsell.
I'm happy to show them How it's done and they can watch for free.
When they cum to their senses and realize they just lost the negation battle, they back peddle and want to join in for any tip they can get. Try it sometime it's actually very funny to watch them react to losing money.
TonyNash900
09-23-18, 18:54
I booked 30 min with Winter and 5 min into massage she asks if I want to play and how much did I bring. I said yes and I brought 80. She told me that wasn't enough. I'm thinking 130 for 30 min is a lot. I had a bad feeling and 3 minutes later her phone rings and she answers it. I'm thinking WTF. I get up to leave and she hangs up her phone and asks what I'm doing I told her I'm leaving and said I paid 50 for 7 min and I'm on my way. She exited the room while I got dressed and was complaining to her boss. Her boss questioned me for leaving and I said I paid 50 for 7 min and she thought I should still tip Winter for not doing anything. I won't be back.
I totally agree with Mr. Bismark, Paying extra for extra is OK.
If you're not getting good service with a smile, don't pay the price or tip anything and don't go back.
It's our money, we should only be giving to the best providers for the best service. That's why this forum exists.
As far as self service goes, I've done it many times when a massage provider has me on the table, dick in hand and tries the Upsell.
I'm happy to show them How it's done and they can watch for free.
When they cum to their senses and realize they just lost the negation battle, they back peddle and want to join in for any tip they can get. Try it sometime it's actually very funny to watch them react to losing money.
Spartan191
09-23-18, 19:53
I go to Las Vegas 6 or more time a year for business. There the MP's usually have everything on the menu, you just need to find right price.
The MP's there are far more expensive and when they have your dick in their hand it can start from $100.00 and up to a HE and $200.00 for a BJ and more for FS.
If I can not come to an agreement at a price that works for me then I have been known to get off the table, stiffy and all and leave.
Like Benz I have left after doing it myself. Had that happen a few weeks ago in Toledo.
The lady left the room and I used a towel or two to clean up.
I always keep my tip money in my shoe and when I put my shoes on I will always make sure they see the cash that I am walking out with.
Believe me attitudes change at that point.
I totally agree with Mr. Bismark, Paying extra for extra is OK.
If you're not getting good service with a smile, don't pay the price or tip anything and don't go back.
It's our money, we should only be giving to the best providers for the best service. That's why this forum exists.
As far as self service goes, I've done it many times when a massage provider has me on the table, dick in hand and tries the Upsell.
I'm happy to show them How it's done and they can watch for free.
When they cum to their senses and realize they just lost the negation battle, they back peddle and want to join in for any tip they can get. Try it sometime it's actually very funny to watch them react to losing money.
Guitar Man
09-23-18, 22:22
Does anyone know of an AMP in the area that does back walks? (Some places actually have bars on the ceiling for it).Lotus Flower Body Works on Burton and Happy Feet on Breton.
JustMe1973
09-24-18, 00:10
Went to Asian blessings on Fuller tonight and found the massage excellent. No HE, at least not on first visit, but the massage itself is definitely worth it.
Mongerlian
09-24-18, 09:35
Lotus Flower Body Works on Burton and Happy Feet on Breton.HE available in these places?
Love The Lips
09-24-18, 09:43
Lotus Flower Body Works on Burton and Happy Feet on Breton.I've always been curious about Happy Feet. Decent massage? HE? If no one has TOFT, maybe I'll test the waters one of these days.
I booked 30 min with Winter and 5 min into massage she asks if I want to play and how much did I bring. I said yes and I brought 80. She told me that wasn't enough. I'm thinking 130 for 30 min is a lot. I had a bad feeling and 3 minutes later her phone rings and she answers it. I'm thinking WTF. I get up to leave and she hangs up her phone and asks what I'm doing I told her I'm leaving and said I paid 50 for 7 min and I'm on my way. She exited the room while I got dressed and was complaining to her boss. Her boss questioned me for leaving and I said I paid 50 for 7 min and she thought I should still tip Winter for not doing anything. I won't be back.You are the man! Answer the phone on your own time. I would never dream of answering my phone while I am with a client and my clients wouldn't care if I did. If she has to answer the phone, she should wear a Bluetooth so that she can keep those hands moving.
You are the man! Answer the phone on your own time. I would never dream of answering my phone while I am with a client and my clients wouldn't care if I did. If she has to answer the phone, she should wear a Bluetooth so that she can keep those hands moving.I thought this went without saying but we are dealing with the generation that recieved participation trophys.
Sounds like we should be telling them, if you answer or look at your phone you won't be getting a tip. I'm paying for my time with you.
Natasha, while she does put on a very hot show, doesn't do much more than a topless HJ when all is said and done (unless she's been fibbing to me for years). It's the way she teases and acts that makes her so good I think.
Alternatively, I've had a far better time with Leslie than Derick describes. I suspect we are seeing the effects of YMMV here.She's been known to tell an occasional fib here and there.
Charlie441
09-24-18, 17:24
I booked 30 min with Winter and 5 min into massage she asks if I want to play and how much did I bring. I said yes and I brought 80. She told me that wasn't enough. I'm thinking 130 for 30 min is a lot. I had a bad feeling and 3 minutes later her phone rings and she answers it. I'm thinking WTF. I get up to leave and she hangs up her phone and asks what I'm doing I told her I'm leaving and said I paid 50 for 7 min and I'm on my way. She exited the room while I got dressed and was complaining to her boss. Her boss questioned me for leaving and I said I paid 50 for 7 min and she thought I should still tip Winter for not doing anything. I won't be back.To be fair, what does her "play" entail where $80 tip isn't enough? Devil's in the details. If it was a topless handy, and she pshawed $80, I too would have walked out. Her asking you to flip 5 minutes indicates she might be going in that direction. Now, if her version of "play" is FS, then with a hottie, and being at a massage parlor, sure, $80 is too little. As for a BJ, I would say that asking for more than $100 tip when the massage was just 5 minutes would be going over the top, unless it entailed a long, drawn out sensual experience surrounding that BJ that soaked up the time. Then I could see asking for $120-$130, but, if you haven't seen her nor she having rave reviews on the overall experience that it'd entail by others getting that BJ, it'd be SILLY to take a gal's word for it when asking to flip 5m in.
Sounds like we should be telling them, if you answer or look at your phone you won't be getting a tip. I'm paying for my time with you.Personally, I don't mind too much if I Know it's going to be a lengthy, unrushed session and she's more than generous (not So easy to find though). That's fine when massaging my back and apologize and respond to something, like some appt that was scheduled not too far from my time there. And they probably see it that way too. Which results in one-thing-leads-to-another, and they slip into taking things for granted as still the "okay" way (sigh). I think when things are going good, they shouldn't push their luck and have their manager put them in their place to remind them that responding to a text is the Exception, not the rule at all.
In the end, when things are going good for a place, they need to not get too high on themselves, and instead take a step back. When people are getting too high on themselves, feeding off what others can get "away" with, they won't realize when they're going too-far. I think that's why a manager at a place is important, to keep things in check and not let things get ridiculous.
Booked Winter for an hour (80 at Serenity). She's a very pretty woman on the youngish side (early 20's).
She started off with a decent massage. I got a little concerned when the flip happened 15 minutes in. She asked if I came to play and offered topless for 0. 6 and nude for $1. 2. I went for topless; 120 is a lot to me for nothing more than a pretty naked woman. More surprising is she tells me she usually gets 200 for full nude.
She allowed some roaming across her back side but not up top. She started the HE and, a few minutes in asked for me to take over. I said no to that and was told she wasn't there to jack guys off. This ended the session at about 29 minutes.
Mileage varies; I have heard better things about Winter (the reason I went at all) and I had a session with Haley some time ago which was far better (though spendy). Winter is attractive so I won't waste anyone's time by suggesting what they should or shouldn't do.
I won't be back. Total out, $150 (80 for the room, 10 for the CC upcharge, and 60 for the tip) for a reasonable massage and a very unhappy ending.Hayley did reach out to me here. She is aware of the issues I and others have had and is working on solutions. I have not decided if I am going to try again but I will be open minded as others review new providers there. In case anyone is wondering, she did offer a break should I want to try again though I don't know how much of one (not fishing for anything; just trying to be up front) and I'm not sure I am interested yet. If that affects anyone's assessment of all this, so be it.
Guitar Man
09-24-18, 23:45
I've always been curious about Happy Feet. Decent massage? HE? If no one has TOFT, maybe I'll test the waters one of these days.The times I have been there so far great massage no HE.
I've seen her a couple times as well with similar results. 5 minute massage then flip and a huge upsell. She's nice enough but she's looking for $ for topless. Sounds like some more is available but not everything, and for a huge upsell. She's cute but uninterested and too pricey. All the other girls I've seen there have been great.
To be fair, what does her "play" entail where $80 tip isn't enough? Devil's in the details. If it was a topless handy, and she pshawed $80, I too would have walked out. Her asking you to flip 5 minutes indicates she might be going in that direction. Now, if her version of "play" is FS, then with a hottie, and being at a massage parlor, sure, $80 is too little. As for a BJ, I would say that asking for more than $100 tip when the massage was just 5 minutes would be going over the top, unless it entailed a long, drawn out sensual experience surrounding that BJ that soaked up the time. Then I could see asking for $120-$130, but, if you haven't seen her nor she having rave reviews on the overall experience that it'd entail by others getting that BJ, it'd be SILLY to take a gal's word for it when asking to flip 5m in.
Personally, I don't mind too much if I Know it's going to be a lengthy, unrushed session and she's more than generous (not So easy to find though). That's fine when massaging my back and apologize and respond to something, like some appt that was scheduled not too far from my time there. And they probably see it that way too. Which results in one-thing-leads-to-another, and they slip into taking things for granted as still the "okay" way (sigh). I think when things are going good, they shouldn't push their luck and have their manager put them in their place to remind them that responding to a text is the Exception, not the rule at all.
In the end, when things are going good for a place, they need to not get too high on themselves, and instead take a step back. When people are getting too high on themselves, feeding off what others can get "away" with, they won't realize when they're going too-far. I think that's why a manager at a place is important, to keep things in check and not let things get ridiculous.
Moonglow913
09-25-18, 12:29
She's been known to tell an occasional fib here and there.No first hand knowledge but for what it is worth, have been told by more than one guy that more (including take out) is available once she knows you and is comfortable. That was some time back so maybe that is not the case anymore.
Jayce Dragon
09-26-18, 00:15
Lotus Flower Body Works on Burton and Happy Feet on Breton.On Fuller I've had it done to me. She walked all over the back. I never asked but it was done well. It was by a new woman.
MichiganMan686
09-26-18, 03:50
I haven't been to MBD. Just a couple questions if anyone has time to respond.
1. Phone number.
2. 30 and 60 min appointments?
3. Prices.
4. Can you walkin or appointment only?
5. Showers?
Thanks to everyone who shares here.
Happy hunting.
On Fuller I've had it done to me. She walked all over the back. I never asked but it was done well. It was by a new woman.The back walk massage, OMG! I loved it. I was getting one, every other week for awhile. Best massage ever!
I haven't been to MBD. Just a couple questions if anyone has time to respond.
1. Phone number.
2. 30 and 60 min appointments?
3. Prices.
4. Can you walkin or appointment only?
5. Showers?
Thanks to everyone who shares here.
Happy hunting.1) There are three providers, Jayna (Di), Emily (EmilyWest), and Lywanna (The Truth). Each has her own number and advertises on usaadultclassifieds. Nl. You call the one you want from their ad.
2) Both are available as well as 90 minutes and special (nuru I think) appointments.
3) Negotiable. I believe the door rates are 40 for half and 60 for full but it may have changed.
4) They occasionally take walk ins but they aren't always at the place so seem to prefer appointments.
5) Not that I know of. The two times I went there I was not offered a shower. I had a good time regardless.
Lotus Flower Body Works on Burton and Happy Feet on Breton.Is this one of those Korean places, one was on EAstern by Oasis and the other on W 28th st btwn Byron Center and Burlingame? I haven't seen any reviews on this if it is since they moved to Burton. What is the quality of service? Tips (upsell if any)?
Is this one of those Korean places, one was on EAstern by Oasis and the other on W 28th st btwn Byron Center and Burlingame? I haven't seen any reviews on this if it is since they moved to Burton. What is the quality of service? Tips (upsell if any)?Lotus on Eastern just south of 28th. It was about a month ago, I did a late night walkin. Attendant was decent looking, probably in her 40's, nice body, very lame massage, and no back walk offered (nor did I ask). But after the flip. I wasn't expecting what I got here in GR. I was fully satisfied, 40 door for half hour and 120 tip. About the same as I'd have spent driving over toward Lansing to see Mikki.
Sorry I didn't share, I've been out of town for a few weeks.
TonyNash900
09-26-18, 19:53
Hayley reached out to me and apologized for what happened to me and offered a discounted massage if I was willing to come back. I thought that was a good gesture and took her up on her offer. I'm glad I did. Hayley is really nice and assured me that her are worth a try.
I booked 30 min with Winter and 5 min into massage she asks if I want to play and how much did I bring. I said yes and I brought 80. She told me that wasn't enough. I'm thinking 130 for 30 min is a lot. I had a bad feeling and 3 minutes later her phone rings and she answers it. I'm thinking WTF. I get up to leave and she hangs up her phone and asks what I'm doing I told her I'm leaving and said I paid 50 for 7 min and I'm on my way. She exited the room while I got dressed and was complaining to her boss. Her boss questioned me for leaving and I said I paid 50 for 7 min and she thought I should still tip Winter for not doing anything. I won't be back.
Guitar Man
09-27-18, 01:48
Is this one of those Korean places, one was on EAstern by Oasis and the other on W 28th st btwn Byron Center and Burlingame? I haven't seen any reviews on this if it is since they moved to Burton. What is the quality of service? Tips (upsell if any)?See post 6698.
MichiganMan686
09-27-18, 03:40
1) There are three providers, Jayna (Di), Emily (EmilyWest), and Lywanna (The Truth). Each has her own number and advertises on usaadultclassifieds. Nl. You call the one you want from their ad.
2) Both are available as well as 90 minutes and special (nuru I think) appointments.
3) Negotiable. I believe the door rates are 40 for half and 60 for full but it may have changed.
4) They occasionally take walk ins but they aren't always at the place so seem to prefer appointments.
5) Not that I know of. The two times I went there I was not offered a shower. I had a good time regardless.Thanks so much for this great response.
DaddieForGrnUp
09-27-18, 10:40
One of the most sweetest gurlz I ran across in Yrs. She's not bad at making You feel right at home also. Just catch her happy.
LOL!
This is the Daddie that she likes to see with his shirt off!
Moonglow913
09-27-18, 12:02
1) There are three providers, Jayna (Di), Emily (EmilyWest), and Lywanna (The Truth). Each has her own number and advertises on usaadultclassifieds. Nl. You call the one you want from their ad.
2) Both are available as well as 90 minutes and special (nuru I think) appointments.
3) Negotiable. I believe the door rates are 40 for half and 60 for full but it may have changed.
4) They occasionally take walk ins but they aren't always at the place so seem to prefer appointments.
5) Not that I know of. The two times I went there I was not offered a shower. I had a good time regardless.Good response and I am sure if there needs to be clarification Di (Jayne) will do so. No shower BTW. I was thinking of responding but Di likes to keep things discrete which I respect. We sort of ended on bad terms but I would still highly recommend her or any of the great ladies who work there.
I have had many really good appointments with Linda.
She is very cool an attentive.
However, I really miss Cindy!
Just my 02.
Stay safe guys!
2 track.
Guitar Man
09-28-18, 10:02
I have had many really good appointments with Linda.
She is very cool an attentive.
However, I really miss Cindy!
Just my 02.
Stay safe guys!
2 track.I agree, Cindy will be missed, she did a great job all the time.
Good response and I am sure if there needs to be clarification Di (Jayne) will do so. No shower BTW. I was thinking of responding but Di likes to keep things discrete which I respect. We sort of ended on bad terms but I would still highly recommend her or any of the great ladies who work there.No shower at the present moment, but in the works!! We do have plenty of hot steamed towels. .
I definitely appreciate your response Moonglow!!
Have a wonderful weekend!
1) There are three providers, Jayna (Di), Emily (EmilyWest), and Lywanna (The Truth). Each has her own number and advertises on usaadultclassifieds. Nl. You call the one you want from their ad.
2) Both are available as well as 90 minutes and special (nuru I think) appointments.
3) Negotiable. I believe the door rates are 40 for half and 60 for full but it may have changed.
4) They occasionally take walk ins but they aren't always at the place so seem to prefer appointments.
5) Not that I know of. The two times I went there I was not offered a shower. I had a good time regardless.All three providers are still with MBD. We have and offer several massage options. 1 hour rate is $80. We are all independent and do our own scheduling and specials!!
We try to ALWAYS take walk-ins, however everyone does not express that interest. If it were expressed, we would make ourselves available to that on a daily basis. Again, everyone is independent so it would depend on which therapist you are trying to see.
Shower plans are in the makings!!
Happy hunting! Di.
Later in the evening last week, I got a tingle that only a massage could fix, so I took a chance and contacted Di from MBD. I couldn't believe my luck that she was still in her office and was able to slip me in before I headed home. I drove a little fast with anticipation!
I have been visiting her for almost a year now, so we have a familiarity with each other. I was going to go with my standard visit, until she offered me an Exotic massage. I had a few extra bucks, I was all clean, I had the extra time just in case, so I said yes!
So the way this works is her version of a Nuru massage. She coats me with oil, and then herself as well, and then she uses her body to massage it all in. Now, don't get me wrong, it is NOT a couple of adults on a Slip-and-Slide laughing and being stupid. It is truly an experience. Slow, sensual, and all over, she uses her body to reach everywhere on you. It is a closeness that you do not get from a regular massage.
On the flip, there is the same sensation enhanced by the spectacular view! The finish is a bit messy, but totally worth it, and the clean up, is actually fun as well.
I highly recommend you give this treatment a try. It is $140/ hh. I would be happy to answer any PMs about this visit as well.
-Shaw.
Later in the evening last week, I got a tingle that only a massage could fix, so I took a chance and contacted Di from MBD. I couldn't believe my luck that she was still in her office and was able to slip me in before I headed home. I drove a little fast with anticipation!
I have been visiting her for almost a year now, so we have a familiarity with each other. I was going to go with my standard visit, until she offered me an Exotic massage. I had a few extra bucks, I was all clean, I had the extra time just in case, so I said yes!
So the way this works is her version of a Nuru massage. She coats me with oil, and then herself as well, and then she uses her body to massage it all in. Now, don't get me wrong, it is NOT a couple of adults on a Slip-and-Slide laughing and being stupid. It is truly an experience. Slow, sensual, and all over, she uses her body to reach everywhere on you. It is a closeness that you do not get from a regular massage.
On the flip, there is the same sensation enhanced by the spectacular view! The finish is a bit messy, but totally worth it, and the clean up, is actually fun as well.
I highly recommend you give this treatment a try. It is $140/ hh. I would be happy to answer any PMs about this visit as well.
-Shaw.I am super happy that you enjoyed "your experience", I look forward to seeing you again! .
Thank you for taking the time to prepare a review .
I have had many really good appointments with Linda.
She is very cool an attentive.
However, I really miss Cindy!
Just my 02.
Stay safe guys!
2 track.No one has ever come close to Cindy's preflip tease. She is amazing. In the many years that I have known her, she never talked money or tip.
Later in the evening last week, I got a tingle that only a massage could fix, so I took a chance and contacted Di from MBD. I couldn't believe my luck that she was still in her office and was able to slip me in before I headed home. I drove a little fast with anticipation!
I have been visiting her for almost a year now, so we have a familiarity with each other. I was going to go with my standard visit, until she offered me an Exotic massage. I had a few extra bucks, I was all clean, I had the extra time just in case, so I said yes!
So the way this works is her version of a Nuru massage. She coats me with oil, and then herself as well, and then she uses her body to massage it all in. Now, don't get me wrong, it is NOT a couple of adults on a Slip-and-Slide laughing and being stupid. It is truly an experience. Slow, sensual, and all over, she uses her body to reach everywhere on you. It is a closeness that you do not get from a regular massage.
On the flip, there is the same sensation enhanced by the spectacular view! The finish is a bit messy, but totally worth it, and the clean up, is actually fun as well.
I highly recommend you give this treatment a try. It is $140/ hh. I would be happy to answer any PMs about this visit as well.
-Shaw.I had a similar experience with Emily. Very satisfying and the wipe up was also fun. They need to install a shower.
No one has ever come close to Cindy's preflip tease. She is amazing. In the many years that I have known her, she never talked money or tip.For 8 years, she was my go to person UTR; it was indeed a great delight to see her and the teasing was soo much fun! She would clear her schedule and accommodate me anytime I called her. It is such a shame that she has moved out of the area. Her recent visit here was a plus, but I still miss her a lot.
All three providers are still with MBD. We have and offer several massage options. 1 hour rate is $80. We are all independent and do our own scheduling and specials!!
We try to ALWAYS take walk-ins, however everyone does not express that interest. If it were expressed, we would make ourselves available to that on a daily basis. Again, everyone is independent so it would depend on which therapist you are trying to see.
Shower plans are in the makings!!
Happy hunting! Di.Di and her staff are the best at accommodating your needs. Each of the ladies has their own distinctive style but all give a great experience. If you try them all you will almost certainly find a woman who can give you the experience you're looking for.
Mongerlian
09-29-18, 23:43
If I'm reading correctly, we've got one guy saying lotus doesn't even do HE, another saying full satisfaction. Can we get some clarification? I get YMMV, but that's a massive difference.
Guitar Man
09-30-18, 05:21
If I'm reading correctly, we've got one guy saying lotus doesn't even do HE, another saying full satisfaction. Can we get some clarification? I get YMMV, but that's a massive difference.There are two providers with the word Lotus, Lotus Flower on Burton no HE. Lotus Spa on on Easter offer HE.
If I'm reading correctly, we've got one guy saying lotus doesn't even do HE, another saying full satisfaction. Can we get some clarification? I get YMMV, but that's a massive difference.I've gotten h / e there many times and f / s twice.
All in f / s $$.5.
Stay safe.
2 track.
ChicagoSouth
09-30-18, 11:19
There are two providers with the word Lotus, Lotus Flower on Burton no HE. Lotus Spa on on Easter offer HE.I have gone to lotus and eastern 2 times there is FS there but its $$ and not worth it there.
Guitar Man
09-30-18, 20:16
I have gone to lotus and eastern 2 times there is FS there but its $$ and not worth it there.Lotus Flower on Burton does not do FS or HE they do only a great deep tissue massage. I think you mean Lotus on Eastern not Lotus and Eastern.
Been quite awhile since I visited Pacific 28th, and not too many revs lately, so did a call and walk in. Saw Heidi, cute, mid 40's but looks younger, enough English to converse with. Petite, with very nice, fit figure. Very good ms, listens well, just enough teasing to keep it interesting, and nice ending. Continued with front ms for the full hour. Not much available in roaming department, but did manage a little BT and nipple massage. No answering phone during session, never a mention of tip. Very nice person, very nice experience. 60/80.
Very generous tip for little roaming HE. No wonder Heidi hates me! I never tip 80 for HE.
Been quite awhile since I visited Pacific 28th, and not too many revs lately, so did a call and walk in. Saw Heidi, cute, mid 40's but looks younger, enough English to converse with. Petite, with very nice, fit figure. Very good ms, listens well, just enough teasing to keep it interesting, and nice ending. Continued with front ms for the full hour. Not much available in roaming department, but did manage a little BT and nipple massage. No answering phone during session, never a mention of tip. Very nice person, very nice experience. 60/80.
MichGuy0419
10-02-18, 09:17
Wondering if anyone knows if Tammy still works there?
Very generous tip for little roaming HE. No wonder Heidi hates me! I never tip 80 for HE.
Tammy was fired a while back. Posted derogatory info. Somewhere according to other girls there.
Wondering if anyone knows if Tammy still works there?
Very generous tip for little roaming HE. No wonder Heidi hates me! I never tip 80 for HE.I agree tip was more than I normally do for not getting naked and allowing roaming, but the overall experience was very good, and I guess I was in a generous mood.
HuggableGuy
10-02-18, 10:31
Hayley reached out to me and apologized for what happened to me and offered a discounted massage if I was willing to come back. I thought that was a good gesture and took her up on her offer. I'm glad I did. Hayley is really nice and assured me that her are worth a try.Hard to get Hayley to answer email.
I prefer email as I don't have a hobby phone.
Had a day free to go up and visit, emailed several times, she got back to me after the window of op closed.
She is sweet, but had to visit Natasha which was not hard to do. Just wanted to get to know Hayley better for mileage reasons.
I guess the moral of this story is I need a hobby phone. Or she needs to monitor her email better.
Stay safe guys.
Very generous tip for little roaming HE. No wonder Heidi hates me! I never tip 80 for HE.Agree. Guess that's why I didn't get my usual Thank You and Hug when I paid up on my way out.
MichGuy0419
10-02-18, 13:15
That's too bad. Her massage was always great. Good teasing. Lots of extras once she got to know you.
Tammy was fired a while back. Posted derogatory info. Somewhere according to other girls there.
Very generous tip for little roaming HE. No wonder Heidi hates me! I never tip 80 for HE.140 $, I think that's low price start at serenity isn't it? J / s.
Charlie441
10-02-18, 14:58
I agree tip was more than I normally do for not getting naked and allowing roaming, but the overall experience was very good, and I guess I was in a generous mood.80 tends to be 2 x the tip for a normal hr. IMO, there'd have to be some extra services for an overall $140 cost when there was no naked, no roaming.
Hard to get Hayley to answer email.
I prefer email as I don't have a hobby phone.
Had a day free to go up and visit, emailed several times, she got back to me after the window of op closed.
She is sweet, but had to visit Natasha which was not hard to do. Just wanted to get to know Hayley better for mileage reasons.
I guess the moral of this story is I need a hobby phone. Or she needs to monitor her email better.
Stay safe guys.I think it's pretty direct for a hobby phone. They're kind of a pain to keep minutes going if you're not actively on the scene all the time, but it's not costly at all. Email for on-the-fly communication is sooo 2001!
I think it's pretty direct for a hobby phone. They're kind of a pain to keep minutes going if you're not actively on the scene all the time, but it's not costly at all. Email for on-the-fly communication is sooo 2001!I use a smart Tracfone. You can purchase 1000 texts for 5 dollars at speedway. Doesn't cost much at all.
That's too bad. Her massage was always great. Good teasing. Lots of extras once she got to know you.Tammy is at Wonder.
MusicBoss10
10-02-18, 15:51
Tammy is at Wonder.Tammy is not at Wonder.
So if Tammy was at Wonder and now is not, where is she working now? She gives a good massage and has fabulous juggs for fondling during the HJ!
MichiganMan686
10-03-18, 04:24
I use a smart Tracfone. You can purchase 1000 texts for 5 dollars at speedway. Doesn't cost much at all.I use the text free app from Google play. Set it up for no notifications. Runs in the background. It's a pain to hide the hobby phone and keep it alive. This works for me.
Sorry that it has taken me a while to get this posted. I don't have much time for the hobby lately.
Anyway, thanks to Benz, I was able to setup an appointment with Layla. I can't disagree with anything previously written about her. She is great and a definite will see again (just not sure when). Easy to setup. Easy to talk to. Very attractive and provides great services.
Stopped without an appointment and drew a new girl. Paid 80 for an hour. Started ok, then about 15 into it she says "I'm going to step out and you can turn over and leave my tip on the desk". Thinking this is different but oh well I leave 100 on the table. She returns and starts a half assed HJ. I ask for at least nude she says no. Ok, how about top off, she takes off shirt and continues in her bra. I ask again and it comes off. That's it, I'm out in 25 minutes. Taking that place off the list.
You paid 80 door fee and then set down 100 tip? Were you thinking this might prompt a BBBJ or something?
Man you guys are driving HE rates through the roof!
Decent massage 1 hour with topless HE is 60 door and 40 tip. If more is offered it goes up of course.
I pay 60 door and 40 tip for NUDE and free roaming including fiv at pacific with many girls there. I'm sure they want more $. Who doesn't? But after seeing the same ones repeatedly they still allow my wishes knowing full well what my tip will be.
I do go 60 tip at times for stellar efforts.
Stopped without an appointment and drew a new girl. Paid 80 for an hour. Started ok, then about 15 into it she says "I'm going to step out and you can turn over and leave my tip on the desk". Thinking this is different but oh well I leave 100 on the table. She returns and starts a half assed HJ. I ask for at least nude she says no. Ok, how about top off, she takes off shirt and continues in her bra. I ask again and it comes off. That's it, I'm out in 25 minutes. Taking that place off the list.
You paid 80 door fee and then set down 100 tip? Were you thinking this might prompt a BBBJ or something?
Man you guys are driving HE rates through the roof!
Decent massage 1 hour with topless HE is 60 door and 40 tip. If more is offered it goes up of course.
I pay 60 door and 40 tip for NUDE and free roaming including fiv at pacific with many girls there. I'm sure they want more $. Who doesn't? But after seeing the same ones repeatedly they still allow my wishes knowing full well what my tip will be.
I do go 60 tip at times for stellar efforts.I totally agree with Monger01, unless there is extra I don't pay extra either. Never tip a waitress before the meal. If you do, your asking for a raw deal.
Anyone know where Thai Joy is working since the 48th and Division place closed?
Thanks! NJ.
+1 to what Monger01 said.
I totally agree with Monger01, unless there is extra I don't pay extra either. Never tip a waitress before the meal. If you do, your asking for a raw deal.Agreed. Dumb move on my part.
Agreed. Dumb move on my part.Don't beat yourself up. We all overpaid before. Just try not to!
Do yourself a favor and go to pacific on 44th. Call first and ask to see Nina. Super hot AA girl.
When flip comes don't discuss fees just smile and politely ask if she could get naked.
She will. Put your hands anywhere you want. Tip her 40-60 based on your satisfaction. Tell her you'll see her next time.
She likes regulars who ask for her. She isn't trying to rip you off per visit.
This thread is littered with bad serenity reviews. I'm sure they're not all bad providers there but the place is getting the same rep as royal has for high rates = poor service. Not a good business model.
This thread is littered with bad serenity reviews. I'm sure they're not all bad providers there but the place is getting the same rep as royal has for high rates = poor service. Not a good business model.I would never pay the $. 40 rate they advertise for hhr massage. That to me is ia tipping $ for HE. I don't care if you get a BBBJ for that price.
Folks that praise that place to me are contributing to the GPS.
I agree with Monger1. Pay door fee of. 40 or. 60 and match the tip of either. 40 or. 60 and you can get plenty of action from the ladies.
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