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FEMA: Ige, Miyagi Wrong About 38 Minute Delay.
Governor Ige and HIEMA administrator Vern Miyagi say they had to obtain permission from FEMA. FEMA says that's not true.
http://hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/20931/FEMA-Ige-Miyagi-Wrong-About-38-Minute-Delay.aspxIge also lied about notifying all TV stations within 20 minutes.
Honolulu808
01-17-18, 00:56
Everyone is pointing fingers, everyone is placing blame for 1/13 Missile Alert message on television and mobile devices. There are lessons to be learned about. Are people aware of what to do if there is a nuclear attack. Do people know about nukemap, the severity of the impact area and surrounding areas also consideration of wind. As for HIEMA is there information that can be broadcast on what to do as an event like this happens.
Just because "experts" say NK has the capacity of reaching hawaii, does it really mean it's a target for Kim Jong-un. Personally I fear the USA with weapons of mass distruction they have including the amount of nuclear arsonal at Pearl Harbor than North Korea.
What did I do when my phone got the message and the message came up on my tv monitor? I closed all the windows in my condo, went to the bathroom, started to put water in my bathtub and used my computer to search for an all clear. In my area the sirens didn't go off and my thought of NK aiming a bomb to Hawaii that this was not a true message. I found the answer at about 8:16,9 minutes after the message came out. After look at why, my attention grew to what to do if a hydrogen bomb it's the island of Oahu, what would the impact be for the direct hit then the radius beyond the impact zone. I asked myself why the fear and anger then realized I did not know what to do and started research about everything possible.
What did you do moments after the message came out.
Hanabusa used to be the mouth piece for that corrupt $10 billion and counting Rail, getting compensated more than $100,000 from Rail, who knows maybe she got some sweetheart deal in purchasing land next to the more than two dozen Rail stations that will benefit herself? She is just as corrupt and incompetent as Ige, another Japanese counter part who knows how to massage the political system! She plays the self-pity game of being victim of racist polices, yet screwed over the Hawaiians in Waiane when she was a senator.
Time to get a white person for governor, the locals are too ingrained in a corrupt system of back scratching and coverups.As for me, I don't care what color they are as long as its not Hanbusa or Ige or any other politicians. They are all corrupt over time. Need somebody new, someone out of no where to help take this State out of the hole. Need someone who has no ties to anybody an unknown would be nice. LBut that is only wishful thinking.
Need someone to DRAIN the swamp. And make the parlors and relaxation places legal for us mongers.
In the words of the late senator who gave it all and made pork barrel work for Hawaii, "what a liar".
Inouye wasn't perfect, but he did bring in hundreds of millions to Hawaii. Even governor Abercrombie said it best, calling out the incompetent liar we have in office.
Agree, we need an outsider to flush the shit out of the good ol boy set up.
Ige also lied about notifying all TV stations within 20 minutes.
Lualualei808
01-17-18, 02:39
Hanabusa used to be the mouth piece for that corrupt $10 billion and counting Rail, getting compensated more than $100,000 from Rail, who knows maybe she got some sweetheart deal in purchasing land next to the more than two dozen Rail stations that will benefit herself? She is just as corrupt and incompetent as Ige, another Japanese counter part who knows how to massage the political system! She plays the self-pity game of being victim of racist polices, yet screwed over the Hawaiians in Waiane when she was a senator.
Time to get a white person for governor, the locals are too ingrained in a corrupt system of back scratching and coverups.Don't forget Hanabusa's corrupt husband. Talk about screwing people. Big time crook.
Member #6232
01-17-18, 02:56
Yeah, if you were at the AMP and some missile is about to hit, better to go out with a bang and die happy! As for that person who pushed that button twice and caused so much panic, I won't go easy on him / her because one father who had to choose between two of his daughters on the mainland, not knowing if he'll ever see them again, decided to talk to his 10 year old daughter for the "final" time before suffering a massive heart attack! Such panic is unnecessary and someone should be sued big time!If their in house investigation proves negligence, does anyone think that those in public who was affected negatively by the False Alarm can have a chance at some form of restitution? Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) should hopefully allow access to the final investigation report sans any classified information. Lataz. O.
BlackLable
01-17-18, 07:44
Everyone is pointing fingers, everyone is placing blame for 1/13 Missile Alert message on television and mobile devices. There are lessons to be learned about. Are people aware of what to do if there is a nuclear attack. Do people know about nukemap, the severity of the impact area and surrounding areas also consideration of wind. As for HIEMA is there information that can be broadcast on what to do as an event like this happens.
Just because "experts" say NK has the capacity of reaching hawaii, does it really mean it's a target for Kim Jong-un. Personally I fear the USA with weapons of mass distruction they have including the amount of nuclear arsonal at Pearl Harbor than North Korea.
What did I do when my phone got the message and the message came up on my tv monitor? I closed all the windows in my condo, went to the bathroom, started to put water in my bathtub and used my computer to search for an all clear. In my area the sirens didn't go off and my thought of NK aiming a bomb to Hawaii that this was not a true message. I found the answer at about 8:16,9 minutes after the message came out. After look at why, my attention grew to what to do if a hydrogen bomb it's the island of Oahu, what would the impact be for the direct hit then the radius beyond the impact zone. I asked myself why the fear and anger then realized I did not know what to do and started research about everything possible.
What did you do moments after the message came out.Wth, Fuck my G F, got off in 10 minutes, then to P T BBBJ dt cim with Miki.
What did you do moments after the message came out.I finished my breakfast and scoffed. Muttered some curse words, went AMP after. Left happily firing off my missile. During the deed, (38 minutes) even more so I started swearing because I knew that text was false.
What I did feel bad for, was the high school girls I seen running from Ala Moana beach park into the mall. They were terrified and crying. I have no remorse for the button pusher either. Fired should be the minimum that happens to him. Children old enough to understand what was going on suffered the most. I hope all your guy's keiki was ok. Truly a tramatic experience.
Shengnu888
01-17-18, 15:23
Ige also lied about notifying all TV stations within 20 minutes.I just want to know who gave the button pusher the GREEN light and why so called death threats haven't been reported yet. Because no threats and more lies.FEMA said we don't give instruction out,your State can function without our help
Everyone is pointing fingers, everyone is placing blame for 1/13 Missile Alert message on television and mobile devices. There are lessons to be learned about. Are people aware of what to do if there is a nuclear attack. Do people know about nukemap, the severity of the impact area and surrounding areas also consideration of wind. As for HIEMA is there information that can be broadcast on what to do as an event like this happens.
Just because "experts" say NK has the capacity of reaching hawaii, does it really mean it's a target for Kim Jong-un. Personally I fear the USA with weapons of mass distruction they have including the amount of nuclear arsonal at Pearl Harbor than North Korea.
What did I do when my phone got the message and the message came up on my tv monitor? I closed all the windows in my condo, went to the bathroom, started to put water in my bathtub and used my computer to search for an all clear. In my area the sirens didn't go off and my thought of NK aiming a bomb to Hawaii that this was not a true message. I found the answer at about 8:16,9 minutes after the message came out. After look at why, my attention grew to what to do if a hydrogen bomb it's the island of Oahu, what would the impact be for the direct hit then the radius beyond the impact zone. I asked myself why the fear and anger then realized I did not know what to do and started research about everything possible.
What did you do moments after the message came out.I slept through the whole thing. But, had I been awake, I don't think I would have been worried for four reasons: 1) There were no warning sirens; 2) It's unlikely that N. Korea has yet developed a capability to accurately strike a target with a ballistic missile; 3) I don't think the political/military climate between the USA and N. Korea has reached such a volatile state that would prompt Kim Jong Un to launch an attack; 4) I don't think Kim Jong Un would be that stupid.
What did you do moments after the message came out.What sucked was my s / o and I were just starting to get it on. I ate her out, she came and then it was my turn. She started a sloppy BJ for a few minutes, then the alert went off. I thought it was a flash flood warning or an earthquake somewhere. She had to stop and look at her phone. Said a missile was coming. I jokingly said, yes, a BIG missile is cumming soon. She didn't think it was funny and started freaking out. I was still thinking about sex and not the possibility of losing my life. I guess I know where my priorities are.
I slept through the whole thing. But, had I been awake, I don't think I would have been worried for four reasons: 1) There were no warning sirens; 2) It's unlikely that N. Korea has yet developed a capability to accurately strike a target with a ballistic missile; 3) I don't think the political/military climate between the USA and N. Korea has reached such a volatile state that would prompt Kim Jong Un to launch an attack; 4) I don't think Kim Jong Un would be that stupid.I was just pissed at the mistake. Annoyed, uneasy that they, the state, would make it so easy to make such a mistake.
Idusixtyning
01-18-18, 18:45
I slept through the whole thing. But, had I been awake, I don't think I would have been worried for four reasons: 1) There were no warning sirens; 2) It's unlikely that N. Korea has yet developed a capability to accurately strike a target with a ballistic missile; 3) I don't think the political/military climate between the USA and N. Korea has reached such a volatile state that would prompt Kim Jong Un to launch an attack; 4) I don't think Kim Jong Un would be that stupid.From what I'm told by those with relatives in South Korea, the South Koreans don't think Kim Jong Un would start a war because he has it too good. Absolute power, anything he wants (including women), and an ability to make the world pay attention to him. So the thinking is that he is not stupid enough to give all of that up. So South Koreans just go on with everyday life without a second thought. It's people in the US that are far more panicked.
If there was a nuclear missile attack, I don't think anyone would survive a direct blast (shockwave, extreme heat, air so hot that lungs would be seared, radiation) unless in a specially built shelter. More than likely blast survivability would depend on which side of the island. I think the more likely challenge is surviving the radiation fallout for those surviving the blast. Doesn't make sense trying to survive a blast if not prepared for the fallout. Which would include having NBR gas masks for everyone in the household, NBR filters, potassium iodide tablets, radiation exposure detectors and geiger counter. All available on Amazon but I haven't gone survivalist mode myself. Yet. LOL.
From what I'm told by those with relatives in South Korea, the South Koreans don't think Kim Jong Un would start a war because he has it too good. Absolute power, anything he wants (including women), and an ability to make the world pay attention to him. So the thinking is that he is not stupid enough to give all of that up. So South Koreans just go on with everyday life without a second thought. It's people in the US that are far more panicked.
If there was a nuclear missile attack, I don't think anyone would survive a direct blast (shockwave, extreme heat, air so hot that lungs would be seared, radiation) unless in a specially built shelter. More than likely blast survivability would depend on which side of the island. I think the more likely challenge is surviving the radiation fallout for those surviving the blast. Doesn't make sense trying to survive a blast if not prepared for the fallout. Which would include having NBR gas masks for everyone in the household, NBR filters, potassium iodide tablets, radiation exposure detectors and geiger counter. All available on Amazon but I haven't gone survivalist mode myself. Yet. LOL.Just a thought though, If we were to be hit by a nuke and it does miss the island and hit off shore. Do you think that the blast would be enough to cause a tsunami?
Suksukboi808
01-19-18, 00:55
Just a thought though, If we were to be hit by a nuke and it does miss the island and hit off shore. Do you think that the blast would be enough to cause a tsunami?Yes very big tsunami and godzilla or as Japanese people call him gojeerah.
Idusixtyning
01-19-18, 01:47
Just a thought though, If we were to be hit by a nuke and it does miss the island and hit off shore. Do you think that the blast would be enough to cause a tsunami?Most people think that a nuclear device will be detonated on the ground. If you research it, an airburst detonation causes maximum blast damage. The latest North Korean missile test broke up around an altitude of 1 km. And something known as a double shockwave also happens when the blast reflects off the ground. Most homes here are of lighter construction (compared to mainland) and don't have a basement. Even a concrete condo is full of windows. Found this website that shows damage radius. https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/.
Punanilicr
01-19-18, 08:33
With all of the talk related to our recent icbm warning mishap, I have to ask, what makes everyone so confident that if it had been real, it would have been from NK? After all, theres still a bunch of nukes unaccounted for from the collapse of USSR. Who knows whose hands those ended up in. I agree that Kim has little to gain by attacking, but he's not the only nut in the dish.
With all of the talk related to our recent icbm warning mishap, I have to ask, what makes everyone so confident that if it had been real, it would have been from NK? After all, theres still a bunch of nukes unaccounted for from the collapse of USSR. Who knows whose hands those ended up in. I agree that Kim has little to gain by attacking, but he's not the only nut in the dish.Ya I'm more concerned at a rogue state or really ISIS type parasite walking in a dirty bomb. Obviously easy to get illegal people on island, so something as small as a crude tactical nuke is no problem. Really not a rogue nation to posses ICBM capability. I'm not concerned of North Korean capabilities either.
Honolulu808
01-19-18, 16:32
With all of the talk related to our recent icbm warning mishap, I have to ask, what makes everyone so confident that if it had been real, it would have been from NK? After all, theres still a bunch of nukes unaccounted for from the collapse of USSR. Who knows whose hands those ended up in. I agree that Kim has little to gain by attacking, but he's not the only nut in the dish.The country I fear the most is USA. Our country has more nuclear power than all the other countries combined. As for a possible nuclear disaster in Hawaii, IMHO there is no reason for an attack from NK nor any other country, my fear is the nuclear accident that can happen if one of the many "weapons of mass destruction" right here in our island at Pearl.
Comp Dude 35
01-19-18, 20:04
If anyone watches KITV, you know what I'm talking about LOL!
By 411, I mean the dirty and nasty stuff, not the "she played VB" or "she went school here", etc. , etc. Anyone can find that stuff.
The new hairdo makes it even more appealing.
Aloha!
CD35.
Roni Yurong
01-20-18, 03:08
The country I fear the most is USA. Our country has more nuclear power than all the other countries combined. As for a possible nuclear disaster in Hawaii, IMHO there is no reason for an attack from NK nor any other country, my fear is the nuclear accident that can happen if one of the many "weapons of mass destruction" right here in our island at Pearl.This State is so screwed up that they sound the alarm for a nuclear attack. The guy says he takes full responsibility so, why isn't he fired? And then all the other do nothing politicians are up in arms over this scenario. We need to clean house and vote all these bums out of office. Need to get new blood in there so this state can operate more efficiently. Also, they need to legalize prostitution so there will be more income to the State and more choices for us mongers.
Don't you agree. Legalize and there will be more competition and better prices.
Roni.
With all of the talk related to our recent icbm warning mishap, I have to ask, what makes everyone so confident that if it had been real, it would have been from NK? After all, theres still a bunch of nukes unaccounted for from the collapse of USSR. Who knows whose hands those ended up in. I agree that Kim has little to gain by attacking, but he's not the only nut in the dish.Suppose your neighbor down the street has been threatening to throw a brick through your front window. And, then it happens. Someone throws a brick through your front window. Who would you suspect threw the brick?
If anyone watches KITV, you know what I'm talking about LOL!
By 411, I mean the dirty and nasty stuff, not the "she played VB" or "she went school here", etc. , etc. Anyone can find that stuff.
The new hairdo makes it even more appealing.
Aloha!
CD35.She might bat from the other side of the plate, is what I hear.
SureYourRight
01-20-18, 10:05
This State is so screwed up that they sound the alarm for a nuclear attack. The guy says he takes full responsibility so, why isn't he fired? And then all the other do nothing politicians are up in arms over this scenario. We need to clean house and vote all these bums out of office. Need to get new blood in there so this state can operate more efficiently. Also, they need to legalize prostitution so there will be more income to the State and more choices for us mongers.
Don't you agree. Legalize and there will be more competition and better prices.
Roni.I don't know if you guys use imgur but they literally had pictures up on the Hawaii alert system. The design is very very very basic HTML and if I'm remembering correctly it does not come with a "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS?" if you click something. That's right. An alert system to send out a nuclear attack alert message does not have a confirmation sequence after you click the alert. Now I'm not saying that firing the guy who clicked it is extreme in any means but basically some dude fat fingered with his mouse and sent out an alert. Is it really his fault if the program was designed like it was supposed to run on WINDOWS 95? We've come a long way in how websites are developed and especially web security. Some people are saying the pictures are fake but I believe that's just locals trying to save face. We all know somethings are done ass backwards here.
If anyone watches KITV, you know what I'm talking about LOL!
By 411, I mean the dirty and nasty stuff, not the "she played VB" or "she went school here", etc. , etc. Anyone can find that stuff.
The new hairdo makes it even more appealing.
Aloha!
CD35.She looks like she enjoys covering the local boys in the UFC arena and some of the wildest females gets turned on watching guys getting beat up. Maybe you should be asking those guys if they did the nasty with her and start training yourself on those "leg locks" and submission holds. Too bad they don't have the mud wrestling matches in Dilingham any more.
I don't know if you guys use imgur but they literally had pictures up on the Hawaii alert system. The design is very very very basic HTML and if I'm remembering correctly it does not come with a "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS?" if you click something. That's right. An alert system to send out a nuclear attack alert message does not have a confirmation sequence after you click the alert. Now I'm not saying that firing the guy who clicked it is extreme in any means but basically some dude fat fingered with his mouse and sent out an alert. Is it really his fault if the program was designed like it was supposed to run on WINDOWS 95? We've come a long way in how websites are developed and especially web security. Some people are saying the pictures are fake but I believe that's just locals trying to save face. We all know somethings are done ass backwards here.The supervisor has the responsibility to insure it is the right program, it is installed properly, the workers are trained to operate the software properly. It is not enough for miyagi to take responsibility, that means nothing. Of course he needs to stand up and admit his failure, he should also lose his job for screwing up. Hawaii has a good ol boys club that sticks together and it sucks. Come on guys, vote out the encumbered and vote in new blood. Give miyagi the incompetent the axe!
Member #6232
01-20-18, 18:56
She looks like she enjoys covering the local boys in the UFC arena and some of the wildest females gets turned on watching guys getting beat up. Maybe you should be asking those guys if they did the nasty with her and start training yourself on those "leg locks" and submission holds. Too bad they don't have the mud wrestling matches in Dilingham any more.Brandy would have a mean triangle hold on any mongah while dining on her why. That be one hold I'd not tap from cause she eventually loosen um up after all that convulsing. While spitting out cuss words with her smooth voice. LOL.
Also, they need to legalize prostitution so there will be more income to the State and more choices for us mongers.
Don't you agree. Legalize and there will be more competition and better prices.
Roni.That's what we need. Service would improve too, in both the AMP and MT sectors at least; many girls are afraid and falsely assume the monger is a cop.
The country I fear the most is USA. Our country has more nuclear power than all the other countries combined. As for a possible nuclear disaster in Hawaii, IMHO there is no reason for an attack from NK nor any other country, my fear is the nuclear accident that can happen if one of the many "weapons of mass destruction" right here in our island at Pearl.What weapon of mass destruction is at Pearl Harbor?
Honolulu808
01-20-18, 21:33
What weapon of mass destruction is at Pearl Harbor?Submarines with nuclear weapons.
CognacXoxo
01-21-18, 02:01
The country I fear the most is USA. Our country has more nuclear power than all the other countries combined. As for a possible nuclear disaster in Hawaii, IMHO there is no reason for an attack from NK nor any other country, my fear is the nuclear accident that can happen if one of the many "weapons of mass destruction" right here in our island at Pearl.Imua, wow this guy's a threat to our national security, now Kim Jung un knows, FBI, CIA, should check it out!
Its treason, deport them back to NK, what else he knows.
AssEaterNow
01-21-18, 05:19
Yeah, my gaydar went up.
Seeing her mannerisms- she prolly straight acting pretending to like MMA men (Tavares) but secretly smoozches with other Asian lezzy. They are the hardest to sway as lezzy chick friends protect each other from men predators. Just sayin.
She might bat from the other side of the plate, is what I hear.
RiverRat22
01-21-18, 05:33
Submarines with nuclear weapons.Pearl Harbor has nuclear powered submarines but none with nuclear weapons. Fast Attacks (SSNs) which is all Pearl has, currently have no nuclear options. TLAM-Ns (nuclear Tomahawks) were all destroyed as a part of the start Treaty 8 years ago. Even then TLAM-and had been out of the fleet in storage for a long time. Hawaii in general has no nuclear options, tactical or strategic, on hand. There are no nuclear capable magazine activities currently any where in Hawaii. The closest is Guam, where NAVMAG Guam and Andersen AFB both have nuclear storage.
RiverRat22
01-21-18, 05:40
The supervisor has the responsibility to insure it is the right program, it is installed properly, the workers are trained to operate the software properly. It is not enough for miyagi to take responsibility, that means nothing. Of course he needs to stand up and admit his failure, he should also lose his job for screwing up. Hawaii has a good ol boys club that sticks together and it sucks. Come on guys, vote out the encumbered and vote in new blood. Give miyagi the incompetent the axe!Agreed Miyagi should already be gone. He already has a poor track record with less publicized poor, disorganized responses to Tsunami and Hurricane threats. But the fact that he is not already gone and that he has not at least resigned, tells me the good ole boy network will save him. Seems to me they are just waiting for this to die out, hoping people will forget and that the FCC / FEMA investigations die in their tracks. But if the Fed investigation make noise, even the Governor is going to have problems. The double whammy on Ige, is that this is an election year and the first big shots were fired today by Tupola.
Punanilicr
01-21-18, 06:48
Suppose your neighbor down the street has been threatening to throw a brick through your front window. And, then it happens. Someone throws a brick through your front window. Who would you suspect threw the brick?Depends on how many of my other neighbors are walking around the hood with a brick in their hands.
Also, they need to legalize prostitution so there will be more income to the State and more choices for us mongers.
Don't you agree. Legalize and there will be more competition and better prices. Regarding the issue of prices, I think it would depend upon how prostitution were to be "legalized" in Hawaii (which I don't think will happen anyway).
Even if prostitution were "legalized" in Big-Government Hawaii, the most likely form of "legalization" would strictly limit prostitution to government-selected and government-approved businesses that are subject to all sorts of meddling government rules, regulations and inspections, government-mandated fees, and probably higher taxation than "respectable" businesses. Pursuant to that very restrictive big-government model of legalization, prices for "legalized" prostitution would likely rise.
By contrast, what's really needed is libertarian-style legalization that simply repeals the laws that currently make buying and selling of sexual services between consenting adults illegal. Keep government interference and government bureaucrats out of it, in favor of free-market economics and freedom of choice by consenting adults. Then average prices would almost certainly decrease.
Agreed Miyagi should already be gone. He already has a poor track record with less publicized poor, disorganized responses to Tsunami and Hurricane threats. But the fact that he is not already gone and that he has not at least resigned, tells me the good ole boy network will save him. Seems to me they are just waiting for this to die out, hoping people will forget and that the FCC / FEMA investigations die in their tracks. But if the Fed investigation make noise, even the Governor is going to have problems. The double whammy on Ige, is that this is an election year and the first big shots were fired today by Tupola.You're right about the "Old boy network" and Miyagi is part of it which the governor has a large say for that appointment, then you've noticed that Senator Gabbard, herself a major in the same unit, not saying much in his removal, but focusing on being blackmailed by NK to have Trump negotiate with Kim Un.
Miyagi and the entire staff should already been fired, but governor Ige has no balls and will pay the price of his incompetence and be replaced most likely with another political crony, Hanabusa, so business as usual while Miyagi stays on collecting his big military pension and of course at least another 6 figure State job in that same unit that pushed the button causing panic throughout Hawaii.
Agreed Miyagi should already be gone. He already has a poor track record with less publicized poor, disorganized responses to Tsunami and Hurricane threats. But the fact that he is not already gone and that he has not at least resigned, tells me the good ole boy network will save him. Seems to me they are just waiting for this to die out, hoping people will forget and that the FCC / FEMA investigations die in their tracks. But if the Fed investigation make noise, even the Governor is going to have problems. The double whammy on Ige, is that this is an election year and the first big shots were fired today by Tupola.Tupola had been making a lot of noise, even before this whole missile warning thing. Maybe that's what this city needs, someone who isn't afraid to speak her mind and call bullshit when it needs to be called out. I'm not sure agree with equal funding for charter schools though. Don't they receive private money? On that note, I think they are focusing on the wrong thing regarding charter schools. If your numbers at public schools are declining and the numbers at charter and private schools rising, isn't that telling you that their is a serious problem with you public education system? When parents, who are supposed to be already strapped for cash are willing to spend money to send their kids to these school, something is likely wrong with the public schools. But instead, people want for funding for charter schools because their numbers are increasing and running out of space.
This is a good example about talking about the issues not the people. Obviously these are some left leaning opinions but he's not saying "Republitards are evil because they want to send their kids to private schools and fuck poor people." He's talking about the issue. If some right leaning brother countered with his argument for charter schools without calling the OP some "leftist libertard who wants to steal my money to educate his kids because all he wants is a handout" but instead made his argument about charter schools based on the merit of charter schools then THEY would be talking about the ISSUES and that's the difference.
If all you're doing is throwing labels and insults your post will be redacted and if you keep doing it you'll be put on moderation. I could give a shit less what your opinion is but I do insist that you talk about it and not the group you wish to demonize. That, in a nutshell is the problem, not the group you think is causing the problem.
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AssEaterNow
01-21-18, 13:53
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I abso fucking lutly will not allow this stupid fucking partisan shit to invade this forum. If you want to take about issues then talk about the fucking issues but this "All Democrats do X" or "All Republicans do Y"
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Even if prostitution were "legalized" in Big-Government Hawaii, the most likely form of "legalization" would strictly limit prostitution to government-selected and government-approved businesses that are subject to all sorts of meddling government rules, regulations and inspections, government-mandated fees, and probably higher taxation than "respectable" businesses. Pursuant to that very restrictive big-government model of legalization, prices for "legalized" prostitution would likely rise.Right. People who talk about legalization should take a close look at Nevada. You will not be getting BB-anything at a state-sanctioned brothel.
Keep in mind the state gov't decided that it would grant two licenses, that encompass production and retailing of MMJ, per island. The state decides who the winners and losers in this industry are going to be. I'd say it's a license to print money, but my friends who smoke tell me that the price in dispensaries are about 2 x what the price is on the street, so in the end it's another example of how the state snatches defeat from the jaws of what could be a profitable new industry.
By contrast, what's really needed is libertarian-style legalization that simply repeals the laws that currently make buying and selling of sexual services between consenting adults illegal. Keep government interference and government bureaucrats out of it, in favor of free-market economics and freedom of choice by consenting adults. Then average prices would almost certainly decrease.Yep. Decriminalization, not legalization.
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Regarding the issue of prices, I think it would depend upon how prostitution were to be "legalized" in Hawaii (which I don't think will happen anyway).
Even if prostitution were "legalized" in Big-Government Hawaii, the most likely form of "legalization" would strictly limit prostitution to government-selected and government-approved businesses that are subject to all sorts of meddling government rules, regulations and inspections, government-mandated fees, and probably higher taxation than "respectable" businesses. Pursuant to that very restrictive big-government model of legalization, prices for "legalized" prostitution would likely rise.
By contrast, what's really needed is libertarian-style legalization that simply repeals the laws that currently make buying and selling of sexual services between consenting adults illegal. Keep government interference and government bureaucrats out of it, in favor of free-market economics and freedom of choice by consenting adults. Then average prices would almost certainly decrease.A few more rules:
No smoking on premises. No cooking on premises. No living on premises. Mamasan must be licensed.
Red, it will be great to legalize it here, Reiden can be the commissioner and I'll be the bag man LOL, E 1 can head the licensing
department, and Redneck you handle the Greek department.
But it won't happen like Red stated government interference, bureaucrats, churches, unions, schools, etc. Etc. Etc.
Legalizing gambling and lottery be good too, awhile back I asked the boys in Vegas if Hawaii legalize gaming and I have the license how soon could you set up and running, 48 hours and full financing.
Be providing funds for education, state improvement, property taxes, etc. Etc.
Guess we got to do it the hard way like the craps.
Just by chance its a go, Red you guys ready.
Regarding the issue of prices, I think it would depend upon how prostitution were to be "legalized" in Hawaii (which I don't think will happen anyway).
Even if prostitution were "legalized" in Big-Government Hawaii, the most likely form of "legalization" would strictly limit prostitution to government-selected and government-approved businesses that are subject to all sorts of meddling government rules, regulations and inspections, government-mandated fees, and probably higher taxation than "respectable" businesses. Pursuant to that very restrictive big-government model of legalization, prices for "legalized" prostitution would likely rise.
By contrast, what's really needed is libertarian-style legalization that simply repeals the laws that currently make buying and selling of sexual services between consenting adults illegal. Keep government interference and government bureaucrats out of it, in favor of free-market economics and freedom of choice by consenting adults. Then average prices would almost certainly decrease.
Tupola had been making a lot of noise, even before this whole missile warning thing. Maybe that's what this city needs, someone who isn't afraid to speak her mind and call bullshit when it needs to be called out. I'm not sure agree with equal funding for charter schools though. Don't they receive private money? On that note, I think they are focusing on the wrong thing regarding charter schools. If your numbers at public schools are declining and the numbers at charter and private schools rising, isn't that telling you that their is a serious problem with you public education system? When parents, who are supposed to be already strapped for cash are willing to spend money to send their kids to these school, something is likely wrong with the public schools. But instead, people want for funding for charter schools because their numbers are increasing and running out of space.
Charter schools are part of the DOE, and as such they cannot charge tuition. They are semi-autonomous but must meet certain DOE criteria (access, curriculum, levels of achievement, accounting, for example). They receive less funding than standard DOE schools and yet outperform on a regular basis. Why? Pretty simple, Community / Parent involvement. Charter schools are open to everyone. If too many apply, there is a lottery system in place.
Tupola looks hot. She's got my vote and I don't even care what her politics may be.
SS.
StripedFashion
01-26-18, 03:53
I'm currently reading the book "Sunny Skies, Shady Characters: Cops, Killers, and Corruption in the Aloha State" by investigative reporter James Dooley. Very immersive and compelling look into the Honolulu underworld from the 1970's on. A lot of what I read reminded me of the Casino movie that came out in the mid-90's but with Yakuza, Chinese and Hawaiian gangsters. I especially like the sections about the various local hitmen and how they "took care" of business.
There is a short section in the book where the author covers the Volcano Girls expose. In fact, HE was the dude who went undercover with the hidden video camera and the one who caught Bill Boyd outside the Ohua condo and interviewed him (as shown on the news). Nothing new from what we already know but the investigative reporter did say something about how Boyd was so nervous during the interview, he was squeezing his dog's face. Also that Lorraine AKA Tash (VG madame) was actually renting a room in Boyd's and his wife's condo. She didn't own it. I always thought that Tash was Boyd's wife! Though Boyd also did say he had no idea there was a brothel operation at his home on the news LOL.
Can anyone confirm any of this? I'm obviously a little confused here.
Really miss that VG era. Those were some fun, steamy nights in Waikiki, that will forever live in the HNL monger archives. Though I think I miss the Empire AMP reign a little more.
Aside from Volcano Girls, Dooley also has an interesting section in the book about a brothel the Yakuza used to run near the Waikiki Zoo during the 70's. Though for Japanese tourists only, filled with scantily clad sno-bunnies everywhere. He even paid a Japanese speaking UH student's fuck ticket into the brothel for the story. You have to read the book to find out what happens next LOL. Though I'm sure cartel run clubs like that still function (here) to this day.
Turboman808
01-29-18, 17:18
Howzit Stripped Fashion!
Long time no talk! Thanks for sharing, sounds fascinating! I've always preferred non-fiction, and this should be a great way to kill some time on an upcoming plane ride!
Stay safe!
Tm808.
I'm currently reading the book "Sunny Skies, Shady Characters: Cops, Killers, and Corruption in the Aloha State" by investigative reporter James Dooley. Very immersive and compelling look into the Honolulu underworld from the 1970's on. A lot of what I read reminded me of the Casino movie that came out in the mid-90's but with Yakuza, Chinese and Hawaiian gangsters. I especially like the sections about the various local hitmen and how they "took care" of business.
There is a short section in the book where the author covers the Volcano Girls expose. In fact, HE was the dude who went undercover with the hidden video camera and the one who caught Bill Boyd outside the Ohua condo and interviewed him (as shown on the news). Nothing new from what we already know but the investigative reporter did say something about how Boyd was so nervous during the interview, he was squeezing his dog's face. Also that Lorraine AKA Tash (VG madame) was actually renting a room in Boyd's and his wife's condo. She didn't own it. I always thought that Tash was Boyd's wife! Though Boyd also did say he had no idea there was a brothel operation at his home on the news LOL.
Can anyone confirm any of this? I'm obviously a little confused here.
Really miss that VG era. Those were some fun, steamy nights in Waikiki, that will forever live in the HNL monger archives. Though I think I miss the Empire AMP reign a little more.
Aside from Volcano Girls, Dooley also has an interesting section in the book about a brothel the Yakuza used to run near the Waikiki Zoo during the 70's. Though for Japanese tourists only, filled with scantily clad sno-bunnies everywhere. He even paid a Japanese speaking UH student's fuck ticket into the brothel for the story. You have to read the book to find out what happens next LOL. Though I'm sure cartel run clubs like that still function (here) to this day.
What a sad day. It is being reported that, after 70 fucking years, the Cleveland Indians a getting rid of the Chief Wahoo Logo on the hats and uniforms. Ridiculous. These fucking Politically Correct Assholes are ruining this country.
There's PC assholes and there's changing fucked up shit. If I was a native american, giving the history they have had in the US I'd probably be pretty happy that people are finally figuring out that some of this shit isn't funny. What if there was a team called the NY Jigaboos, or the San Antonio Spicks? People didn't give a shit when some of this stuff started and even though it's been around for a long time some if it just needs to go.
IMHO
A2
Lualualei808
01-30-18, 02:24
I'm currently reading the book "Sunny Skies, Shady Characters: Cops, Killers, and Corruption in the Aloha State" by investigative reporter James Dooley. Very immersive and compelling look into the Honolulu underworld from the 1970's on. A lot of what I read reminded me of the Casino movie that came out in the mid-90's but with Yakuza, Chinese and Hawaiian gangsters. I especially like the sections about the various local hitmen and how they "took care" of business.
There is a short section in the book where the author covers the Volcano Girls expose. In fact, HE was the dude who went undercover with the hidden video camera and the one who caught Bill Boyd outside the Ohua condo and interviewed him (as shown on the news). Nothing new from what we already know but the investigative reporter did say something about how Boyd was so nervous during the interview, he was squeezing his dog's face. Also that Lorraine AKA Tash (VG madame) was actually renting a room in Boyd's and his wife's condo. She didn't own it. I always thought that Tash was Boyd's wife! Though Boyd also did say he had no idea there was a brothel operation at his home on the news LOL.
Can anyone confirm any of this? I'm obviously a little confused here.
Really miss that VG era. Those were some fun, steamy nights in Waikiki, that will forever live in the HNL monger archives. Though I think I miss the Empire AMP reign a little more.
Aside from Volcano Girls, Dooley also has an interesting section in the book about a brothel the Yakuza used to run near the Waikiki Zoo during the 70's. Though for Japanese tourists only, filled with scantily clad sno-bunnies everywhere. He even paid a Japanese speaking UH student's fuck ticket into the brothel for the story. You have to read the book to find out what happens next LOL. Though I'm sure cartel run clubs like that still function (here) to this day.Those were the days. Lots of shady charscters] involved in the KB scene. Remember Brass Door and the hit man RC.
What about the Yakuza and the hit on K. O. The owner of the Sheraton Hotels wife and the son.
Many stories from that era.
Cosmic Kid
02-01-18, 00:59
I'm currently reading the book "Sunny Skies, Shady Characters: Cops, Killers, and Corruption in the Aloha State" by investigative reporter James Dooley. Very immersive and compelling look into the Honolulu underworld from the 1970's on. A lot of what I read reminded me of the Casino movie that came out in the mid-90's but with Yakuza, Chinese and Hawaiian gangsters. I especially like the sections about the various local hitmen and how they "took care" of business.
There is a short section in the book where the author covers the Volcano Girls expose. In fact, HE was the dude who went undercover with the hidden video camera and the one who caught Bill Boyd outside the Ohua condo and interviewed him (as shown on the news). Nothing new from what we already know but the investigative reporter did say something about how Boyd was so nervous during the interview, he was squeezing his dog's face. Also that Lorraine AKA Tash (VG madame) was actually renting a room in Boyd's and his wife's condo. She didn't own it. I always thought that Tash was Boyd's wife! Though Boyd also did say he had no idea there was a brothel operation at his home on the news LOL.
Can anyone confirm any of this? I'm obviously a little confused here.
Really miss that VG era. Those were some fun, steamy nights in Waikiki, that will forever live in the HNL monger archives. Though I think I miss the Empire AMP reign a little more.
Aside from Volcano Girls, Dooley also has an interesting section in the book about a brothel the Yakuza used to run near the Waikiki Zoo during the 70's. Though for Japanese tourists only, filled with scantily clad sno-bunnies everywhere. He even paid a Japanese speaking UH student's fuck ticket into the brothel for the story. You have to read the book to find out what happens next LOL. Though I'm sure cartel run clubs like that still function (here) to this day.I didn't know about this book. Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered a copy.
I didn't know about this book. Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered a copy.Kid, book no tell all, more deep, mr. H, knows more (I think).
Red too.
Yesterday a former Navy commander who participated in a corruption/bribery scandal in Asia was sentenced in Honolulu to eighteen months of federal imprisonment. Notably, part of the bribery scheme was "tens of thousands of dollars" spent on prostitutes to service the officer, including multiple providers flown from Indonesia to Singapore. Indeed, he received "the services of prostitutes on more occasions than any other U.S. Navy officer" involved in the widespread scandal. Well, at least he'll have many pleasant memories to recall while he's serving his time. Go Navy!Yet another former United States Navy commander has now pleaded guilty in the Fat Leonard scandal, which is the "largest corruption scandal in Navy history". (So far, twenty of the twenty-nine charged defendants have pleaded guilty.) Among the bribery enticements this Navy commander received were "the services of several prostitutes from Mongolia". Amusingly, he called himself "a small dog just trying to get a bone". Now, "he faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine" when he's sentenced.
Those were the days. Lots of shady charscters] involved in the KB scene. Remember Brass Door and the hit man RC.
What about the Yakuza and the hit on K. O. The owner of the Sheraton Hotels wife and the son.
Many stories from that era.Lua, was brass door or ever green where BF got it.
The first was the Hong boys in Hawaii Kai 2 in the head.
One korean one pake one my grand uncle.
Any more stories? One more is the Bottle club Ena Road Waikiki.
Across the ilikai 3 owners one's my grand pa.
Lualualei808
02-02-18, 20:07
Lua, was brass door or ever green where BF got it.
The first was the Hong boys in Hawaii Kai 2 in the head.
One korean one pake one my grand uncle.
Any more stories? One more is the Bottle club Ena Road Waikiki.
Across the ilikai 3 owners one's my grand pa.BF got it at BD. Was because of drug dispute thru the coconut wireless.
BF got it at BD. Was because of drug dispute thru the coconut wireless.Was like cow boys days.
Nice taking take care.
BF got it at BD. Was because of drug dispute thru the coconut wireless.BTW, you must know CHARLIE F.
Died about year ago, use to fix me up.
Tip had a thing for me when she first started.
Had a kid.
Lualualei808
02-03-18, 04:18
BTW, you must know CHARLIE F.
Died about year ago, use to fix me up.
Tip had a thing for me when she first started.
Had a kid.Yea C. F. Died unexpectedly.
Heard it was from heart problems. Maybe from all the drugs.
A lot of guys knew C. F.
Honolulu808
02-04-18, 17:07
As a long time custom in Hawaii of a hug and or kiss on the cheek now becomes sexual harassment. That's what happened between Rachael Wong and Rep. Joe Souki. Now Souki is facing sexual harassment charges.
So does the true hawaiian custom of Honi, greeting eacother nose to nose to share the breath of life could now be sexual harassment?
http://www.civilbeat.org/2018/02/denby-fawcett-when-does-hawaiis-famous-aloha-kiss-become-sexual-harassment/
As a long time custom in Hawaii of a hug and or kiss on the cheek now becomes sexual harassment. That's what happened between Rachael Wong and Rep. Joe Souki. Now Souki is facing sexual harassment charges.
So does the true hawaiian custom of Honi, greeting eacother nose to nose to share the breath of life could now be sexual harassment?
http://www.civilbeat.org/2018/02/denby-fawcett-when-does-hawaiis-famous-aloha-kiss-become-sexual-harassment/H, wake up, much more than that, not only with Rachael others too.
As a long time custom in Hawaii of a hug and or kiss on the cheek now becomes sexual harassment. That's what happened between Rachael Wong and Rep. Joe Souki. Now Souki is facing sexual harassment charges.
So does the true hawaiian custom of Honi, greeting eacother nose to nose to share the breath of life could now be sexual harassment?
http://www.civilbeat.org/2018/02/denby-fawcett-when-does-hawaiis-famous-aloha-kiss-become-sexual-harassment/It's not the kiss on the cheek that's a problem, it's what Souki was doing with his hand that is. The one he didn't shake with. I've known Wong since she was a baby and her parents have been friends for almost 50 years. She didn't make it up.
BlackLable
02-05-18, 04:52
It's not the kiss on the cheek that's a problem, it's what Souki was doing with his hand that is. The one he didn't shake with. I've known Wong since she was a baby and her parents have been friends for almost 50 years. She didn't make it up.Kallani,
You're right and not only her too, others too. These guys got to check it out before they post. And not knowing what's going on, or think they knows and guessing. Same as the rockets in Pearl Harbor.
Fuka' s kiss and hug my wife all the times, (big tits) in front of me, on the side I tell them alright give me $$ for that LOL joking.
Regarding Mrs Wong It will all will come out besides the governor and others knows too. And some of them go to the AMPs.
It's not the kiss on the cheek that's a problem, it's what Souki was doing with his hand that is. The one he didn't shake with. I've known Wong since she was a baby and her parents have been friends for almost 50 years. She didn't make it up.Was it a Sou-He-Yuck-K?
Was it a Sou-He-Yuck-K?LOL, yeah, maybe he should have stayed in the KB and get some stink finger reaching under some Korean bar girl's panties with his hand instead of her! Stupid politician think he can get away with things because he sits on a powerful seat.
Honolulu968
02-05-18, 12:41
It's not the kiss on the cheek that's a problem, it's what Souki was doing with his hand that is. The one he didn't shake with. I've known Wong since she was a baby and her parents have been friends for almost 50 years. She didn't make it up.I think what H808 was referring to was the story written on Civil Beat which is funny as hell.
WaikikiBeAC
02-05-18, 16:18
Why do these guys sexually harass such ugly women? Most of these women claiming sexual harassment are so ugly and makes me wonder why these guys are risking so much harassing an ugly woman.
It's because they are so fucking ugly and nobody is hitting on them so as soon as some guy does anything that they can construe as being inappropriate they pounce on this harassment shit.
A2
Honolulu808
02-05-18, 18:13
H, wake up, much more than that, not only with Rachael others too.
Kallani,
You're right and not only her too, others too. These guys got to check it out before they post. And not knowing what's going on, or think they knows and guessing. Same as the rockets in Pearl Harbor.
Fuka' s kiss and hug my wife all the times, (big tits) in front of me, on the side I tell them alright give me $$ for that LOL joking.
Regarding Mrs Wong It will all will come out besides the governor and others knows too. And some of them go to the AMPs.I am not passing judgement on Mrs Wong nor do I know what caused the charges. My intent of my story was the arrival I read on Civil Beat, titled. When Does Hawaii's Famous 'Aloha Kiss' Become Sexual Harassment?. I just thought it was a funny story. Here is the link.
http://www.civilbeat.org/2018/02/denby-fawcett-when-does-hawaiis-famous-aloha-kiss-become-sexual-harassment/
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Why do these guys sexually harass such ugly women? Most of these women claiming sexual harassment are so ugly and makes me wonder why these guys are risking so much harassing an ugly woman.
It's because they are so fucking ugly and nobody is hitting on them so as soon as some guy does anything that they can construe as being inappropriate they pounce on this harassment shit.
A2You guys see the size and looks of the 84 year old guy, make her look like susie wong.
Regardless its what he did or didn't do, hope this helps every one.
Why do these guys sexually harass such ugly women? Most of these women claiming sexual harassment are so ugly and makes me wonder why these guys are risking so much harassing an ugly woman.
It's because they are so fucking ugly and nobody is hitting on them so as soon as some guy does anything that they can construe as being inappropriate they pounce on this harassment shit.
A2Also he can go evergreen and play all he like and or vegas and not get exposed.
Also all the other big time guys with power and money, fuck its a dumb ego thing.
Why do these guys sexually harass such ugly women? Most of these women claiming sexual harassment are so ugly and makes me wonder why these guys are risking so much harassing an ugly woman.
It's because they are so fucking ugly and nobody is hitting on them so as soon as some guy does anything that they can construe as being inappropriate they pounce on this harassment shit.
A2These ugly girls are fame and financial opportunists, they know their days are numbered and are basically men haters. So when an opportunity arises and national coverage on powerful men getting dragged through the courts for both extensive media coverage and of course $$ settlements, why not press charges since the compensation will be much more than any pension she may get.
Mr Wong go get the ambulance chaser Michael Green like the one got fired (button pusher). I guarantee you'll be compensated. And your death threats as you say, have HPD or the FBI involved. They can and will find those text messages as you say. If your lying then you should also be fired but if your correct then these individuals should pay a fine and serve prison time.
Universities seem to be exerting more and more control and punishment over behavior that some people consider offensive, even when it's not illegal. Note that in the news report below, there's no allegation of illegal involuntary sex during this sex game. So where's the sense of humor? Once a provider called me "Buddha Belly". Instead of finding it funny, should I have sued her for infliction of emotional distress? LOL.
Cornell fraternity on probation after a "pig roast" contest to have sex with overweight women.
The contestants, all pledges of Cornell's Zeta Beta Tau fraternity, called their secret, fat-shaming sex game the "pig roast".
The rules were simple. Would-be fraternity brothers allegedly earned points for having sex with overweight women. If there was a tie at the end, the victory went to whoever had slept with the heaviest woman. New members were told not to inform the women about the contest, according to a university report.
In 2017, the university's Office of Sorority and Fraternity Life, which regulates fraternities and sororities, received reports about the alleged game, sparking an investigation by the university's fraternity and sorority board that recently concluded.
The fraternity chapter has been put on a two-year probation, and the Ivy League university and the fraternity's national office denounced the game, the latest example of a Greek organization behaving badly.
The board said the chapter violated university rules about Greek organizations that prohibit "sexually abusive behavior on the part of its members".
It was unclear how long the contest had been going on or how many people participated.
In a lengthy statement on Facebook announcing the probation, the Cornell chapter of the fraternity said interactions connected to the game "were neither chapter sanctioned activities nor ones that brothers were aware of".
"We, too, are in disbelief and even more so that these alleged actions may have been taken by those whom we called brothers," the statement said.
Ryan Lombardi, Cornell's vice president for student and campus life, called the game "abhorrent," according to the Daily Sun, Cornell's student newspaper.
"Behavior that degrades and dehumanizes women contributes to a climate and culture of tolerance for sexual violence," he said.
The statement outlined corrective measures. The chapter will conduct a "full membership review," expelling members as necessary. Fraternity brothers will also have to attend "multiple educational programs on the topics of healthy relationships". Those programs will also be offered to the campus community at large. The fraternity is also getting a live-in adviser.
Universities seem to be exerting more and more control and punishment over behavior that some people consider offensive, even when it's not illegal. Note that in the news report below, there's no allegation of illegal involuntary sex during this sex game. So where's the sense of humor? Once a provider called me "Buddha Belly". Instead of finding it funny, should I have sued her for infliction of emotional distress? LOL.
Cornell fraternity on probation after a "pig roast" contest to have sex with overweight women.
The contestants, all pledges of Cornell's Zeta Beta Tau fraternity, called their secret, fat-shaming sex game the "pig roast".
The rules were simple. Would-be fraternity brothers allegedly earned points for having sex with overweight women. If there was a tie at the end, the victory went to whoever had slept with the heaviest woman. New members were told not to inform the women about the contest, according to a university report.
In 2017, the university's Office of Sorority and Fraternity Life, which regulates fraternities and sororities, received reports about the alleged game, sparking an investigation by the university's fraternity and sorority board that recently concluded.
The fraternity chapter has been put on a two-year probation, and the Ivy League university and the fraternity's national office denounced the game, the latest example of a Greek organization behaving badly.
The board said the chapter violated university rules about Greek organizations that prohibit "sexually abusive behavior on the part of its members".
It was unclear how long the contest had been going on or how many people participated.
In a lengthy statement on Facebook announcing the probation, the Cornell chapter of the fraternity said interactions connected to the game "were neither chapter sanctioned activities nor ones that brothers were aware of".
"We, too, are in disbelief and even more so that these alleged actions may have been taken by those whom we called brothers," the statement said.
Ryan Lombardi, Cornell's vice president for student and campus life, called the game "abhorrent," according to the Daily Sun, Cornell's student newspaper.
"Behavior that degrades and dehumanizes women contributes to a climate and culture of tolerance for sexual violence," he said.
The statement outlined corrective measures. The chapter will conduct a "full membership review," expelling members as necessary. Fraternity brothers will also have to attend "multiple educational programs on the topics of healthy relationships". Those programs will also be offered to the campus community at large. The fraternity is also getting a live-in adviser.Fuck all these "Politcally correct" stuff. Colleges / universities had "cry ins" because of the presidential elections. WTF?? They make a mockery out of the education system.
Average American male about 200 lbs. Average female 170.
Waist size average 40 inches male, 38 female.
5'2" 170 lbs and 38" waist could be a running back, LOL.
Those women must be better than average just like me, LOL.
Universities seem to be exerting more and more control and punishment over behavior that some people consider offensive, even when it's not illegal. Note that in the news report below, there's no allegation of illegal involuntary sex during this sex game. So where's the sense of humor? Once a provider called me "Buddha Belly". Instead of finding it funny, should I have sued her for infliction of emotional distress? LOL.
Cornell fraternity on probation after a "pig roast" contest to have sex with overweight women.
The contestants, all pledges of Cornell's Zeta Beta Tau fraternity, called their secret, fat-shaming sex game the "pig roast".
The rules were simple. Would-be fraternity brothers allegedly earned points for having sex with overweight women. If there was a tie at the end, the victory went to whoever had slept with the heaviest woman. New members were told not to inform the women about the contest, according to a university report.
In 2017, the university's Office of Sorority and Fraternity Life, which regulates fraternities and sororities, received reports about the alleged game, sparking an investigation by the university's fraternity and sorority board that recently concluded.
The fraternity chapter has been put on a two-year probation, and the Ivy League university and the fraternity's national office denounced the game, the latest example of a Greek organization behaving badly.
The board said the chapter violated university rules about Greek organizations that prohibit "sexually abusive behavior on the part of its members".
It was unclear how long the contest had been going on or how many people participated.
In a lengthy statement on Facebook announcing the probation, the Cornell chapter of the fraternity said interactions connected to the game "were neither chapter sanctioned activities nor ones that brothers were aware of".
"We, too, are in disbelief and even more so that these alleged actions may have been taken by those whom we called brothers," the statement said.
Ryan Lombardi, Cornell's vice president for student and campus life, called the game "abhorrent," according to the Daily Sun, Cornell's student newspaper.
"Behavior that degrades and dehumanizes women contributes to a climate and culture of tolerance for sexual violence," he said.
The statement outlined corrective measures. The chapter will conduct a "full membership review," expelling members as necessary. Fraternity brothers will also have to attend "multiple educational programs on the topics of healthy relationships". Those programs will also be offered to the campus community at large. The fraternity is also getting a live-in adviser.
Cosmic Kid
02-09-18, 19:29
Universities seem to be exerting more and more control and punishment over behavior that some people consider offensive, even when it's not illegal. Note that in the news report below, there's no allegation of illegal involuntary sex during this sex game. So where's the sense of humor? Once a provider called me "Buddha Belly". Instead of finding it funny, should I have sued her for infliction of emotional distress? LOL.
Cornell fraternity on probation after a "pig roast" contest to have sex with overweight women.
The contestants, all pledges of Cornell's Zeta Beta Tau fraternity, called their secret, fat-shaming sex game the "pig roast".
The rules were simple. Would-be fraternity brothers allegedly earned points for having sex with overweight women. If there was a tie at the end, the victory went to whoever had slept with the heaviest woman. New members were told not to inform the women about the contest, according to a university report.
In 2017, the university's Office of Sorority and Fraternity Life, which regulates fraternities and sororities, received reports about the alleged game, sparking an investigation by the university's fraternity and sorority board that recently concluded.
The fraternity chapter has been put on a two-year probation, and the Ivy League university and the fraternity's national office denounced the game, the latest example of a Greek organization behaving badly.
The board said the chapter violated university rules about Greek organizations that prohibit "sexually abusive behavior on the part of its members".
It was unclear how long the contest had been going on or how many people participated.
In a lengthy statement on Facebook announcing the probation, the Cornell chapter of the fraternity said interactions connected to the game "were neither chapter sanctioned activities nor ones that brothers were aware of".
"We, too, are in disbelief and even more so that these alleged actions may have been taken by those whom we called brothers," the statement said.
Ryan Lombardi, Cornell's vice president for student and campus life, called the game "abhorrent," according to the Daily Sun, Cornell's student newspaper.
"Behavior that degrades and dehumanizes women contributes to a climate and culture of tolerance for sexual violence," he said.
The statement outlined corrective measures. The chapter will conduct a "full membership review," expelling members as necessary. Fraternity brothers will also have to attend "multiple educational programs on the topics of healthy relationships". Those programs will also be offered to the campus community at large. The fraternity is also getting a live-in adviser.I am not disagreeing with brother Redneck. Rather, I'm challenging the news article he has posted. IMHO, the problem is not with Cornell's Zeta Beta Tau fraternity, but is instead with Cornell University's sexually discriminatory policy! What we have here is these perceptive young energetic future world leaders, these fraternity pledges, from this Ivy League school, courageously challenging the unfair sexual bias of our unenlightened era. These young men were attempting to assist ugly fat pig girls by creating and stimulating a cultural atmosphere of attraction for these poor lonely slob girls! Sexual equality for ugly fat pigs chicks! How in the world is this "sexually abusive behavior", or "behavior that degrades and dehumanizes women", and how does it "contribute to a climate and culture of tolerance for sexual violence" for gods sake? Those are allegations which quite simply do not in any way shape or form comprehend the compassionate intent of these fine upstanding young students. Instead of penalizing Zeta Beta Tau fraternity, those young dudes should be awarded a medal for their brave stand for freedom and equality for ALL women in the sexual arena of life, regardless even if they ARE fat fucking ugly pigs!
HPD Chief Susan Ballard gave SHOPOS 4 top officials all new undesirable positions and their not happy. Its called cleaning the house or take your retirement now guys.
HPD Chief Susan Ballard gave SHOPOS 4 top officials all new undesirable positions and their not happy. Its called cleaning the house or take your retirement now guys.It is about time. Next is the prosecutor office.
Hate to say this but Lisa Kubota looking damn good recently. She lose weight? She used to be a lot more chunky as I seen her a lot with her haole boyfriend / now husband. Chelsea Davis still solid. And of course, my ATF Jobeth Devera is wifey material yaaaassssss.
Sorry Steph Lum, down a rung to number 2. Pinay power for the win!
HPD Chief Susan Ballard gave SHOPOS 4 top officials all new undesirable positions and their not happy. Its called cleaning the house or take your retirement now guys.Its about time, she should also send SHOPO Union head packing, he's been in this mess far too long protecting crooked cops who give the rest a black eye!
It is about time. Next is the prosecutor office.I agree. Keith Kaneshiro should be up next.
Its about time, she should also send SHOPO Union head packing, he's been in this mess far too long protecting crooked cops who give the rest a black eye!Can't wait till he makes the front page like our Former Chief but not for a fire in his garage caused by the clothes dryer going overtime LOL.
HPD Chief Susan Ballard gave SHOPOS 4 top officials all new undesirable positions and their not happy. Its called cleaning the house or take your retirement now guys.This is not necessarily a good thing. Sometimes you need to take the bad with the good. She may crack down on MP's.
This is not necessarily a good thing. Sometimes you need to take the bad with the good. She may crack down on MP's.Yup might not be a good thing, Hawaii is not business friendly.
With all the red tape and interference.
Use to know Walter, Blackie, montrone, old man Art, etc.
When you're in things happen and things move and get done.
Well that's the old days much harder now.
Hope all goes well with the bars and AMPs.
Ex HPD Major Gordon Shiraishi trying to get a separate trial from the Keaolaha's. No way bro your part of the cartel (hui) that's been screwing the people of Hawaii for years. You framed Gerald so pay for your crime. MAN UP!!
Can't wait till he makes the front page like our Former Chief but not for a fire in his garage caused by the clothes dryer going overtime LOL.News in, Maafala, HPD SHOPO Union head files for retirement after new HPD Chief reassigns him back to patrol beat. I guess he got too comfortable sitting on his ass in the union office defending dirty cops who give the rest on the force a black eye. Now faced without that POWER and forced to do an honest day's work patrolling, Sgt Maafala might get a cardio arrest for being out of shape for too long in easy living conditions at the SHOPO office. I always wonder seeing him on television, being so out of shape and fat, how can he even be on the force?
Ex HPD Major Gordon Shiraishi trying to get a separate trial from the Keaolaha's. No way bro your part of the cartel (hui) that's been screwing the people of Hawaii for years. You framed Gerald so pay for your crime. MAN UP!!The Kealohas are crooked and were drunk with power. They kind of deserve what they get for abusing their positions. However, Gerald is a druggie, crook too. He would have ripped off his mother or was it grandma. Katherine blocked him but overstepped and their abuse of power caught up to them.
DrMajikLuv69
03-02-18, 04:18
Has anyone seen this movie titled "Anti-Porno" released in 2017? Soon to be put on Blu-Ray. I watched the trailer previews and don't quite understand what the movie is about. You KNOW it's like Inception, or Vanilla Sky. It's one of those movies might need to watch twice to make sense of it. Or watch twice to see what you missed the first time around. The movie looks very Artsy Fartsy and probably the type of movie youd can watch with a classy artsy girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heIa5m3MBhY&sns=em
Here's the link to the trailer preview. It has sub titles.
Ex HPD Major Gordon Shiraishi trying to get a separate trial from the Keaolaha's. No way bro your part of the cartel (hui) that's been screwing the people of Hawaii for years. You framed Gerald so pay for your crime. MAN UP!!Yeah, if you wallow in the same pig pen, don't expect NOT to be hosed down with the same fire hose as the Kealohas. I think his lawyer or himself are trying to disassociate himself from over a dozen possible felony charges against ex-Chief and his wife and the reason for a separate trial. He's part of the hui, so maybe he'll start "singing" to the feds against the Kealohas to save his own ass or reduce charges? Like rats on a sinking ship, its each man for himself. Just hope us taxpayers won't be stuck paying his legal fees.
News in, Maafala, HPD SHOPO Union head files for retirement after new HPD Chief reassigns him back to patrol beat. I guess he got too comfortable sitting on his ass in the union office defending dirty cops who give the rest on the force a black eye. Now faced without that POWER and forced to do an honest day's work patrolling, Sgt Maafala might get a cardio arrest for being out of shape for too long in easy living conditions at the SHOPO office. I always wonder seeing him on television, being so out of shape and fat, how can he even be on the force?He never reported for patrol duty. Instead he has been taking vacation since he was reassigned 3 months ago.
He never reported for patrol duty. Instead he has been taking vacation since he was reassigned 3 months ago.That's one benefit of being a Union boss, "massaging" the system, taking 3 months paid vacation and probably selling back all unused sick days too. I used to be an executive board Union member getting only $10 (gas) per meeting, while the Union boss got over $100 k. Don't know how much Maafala was getting but surely much more than a HPD Sgt pay, while not doing his duties as a cop.
He never reported for patrol duty. Instead he has been taking vacation since he was reassigned 3 months ago.SHOPO union president Teneri Maafala retires next month after 18 years doing what?, probably uniform wouldn't have fit anyway on street patrol, three more to go. Good job Ballard.
That's one benefit of being a Union boss, "massaging" the system, taking 3 months paid vacation and probably selling back all unused sick days too. I used to be an executive board Union member getting only $10 (gas) per meeting, while the Union boss got over $100 k. Don't know how much Maafala was getting but surely much more than a HPD Sgt pay, while not doing his duties as a cop.With OT, I would guess Maafala pulled in at least $125 k. Can you imagine a job where you don't really report to anyone, and don't even file reports? No real accountability for your hours, and that is why Chief Ballard put that office back under the volunteers. 3 months of vacation so far, and is planning to retire. I guess he didn't want to patrol Waikiki because it is dangerous with all the stabbings, muggings. Too bad, because that is where we need the experienced cops, especially a big mofo like Maafala. Now he is applying to be SHOPO Executive Director.
With OT, I would guess Maafala pulled in at least $125 k. Can you imagine a job where you don't really report to anyone, and don't even file reports? No real accountability for your hours, and that is why Chief Ballard put that office back under the volunteers. 3 months of vacation so far, and is planning to retire. I guess he didn't want to patrol Waikiki because it is dangerous with all the stabbings, muggings. Too bad, because that is where we need the experienced cops, especially a big mofo like Maafala. Now he is applying to be SHOPO Executive Director.If you've been on the inside of Hawaii's Union system, like myself, you'll really see how corrupt it is. I think union police and firefighters can still actually pad their retirement calculations by racking up OT, but may be wrong? In any case the Union I worked for now has the FBI investigating the same business manager for embezzling union funds for his mother's mortgage. He used a certain law firm to represent union members, but also on the side take care of his own legal issues. I bet Maafala also did the same, because SHOPO members each pay monthly union dues which amounts to $millions that can be hidden from investigators, if you know how to hide it in the form of "business" related events, like paid air fares and hotel, mileage to attend conference in Las Vegas (Chicken Ranch). HPD Chief should look into his dealings before he retires.
Today I saw that the University of Montana women's soccer coach lost his job after it was discovered that from 2015 to 2017, he texted 491 times with 10 Las Vegas-based "escorts" on his university-issued work cellphone. He had periodically been taking "recruiting trips" to Las Vegas. He said: "I acknowledge that I should not have used my university cell phone for personal messages. I apologize for this situation and understand I have to live with the consequences of my actions. My personal life did not impact the student athletes or my performance as a coach. I understand that people's perceptions will vary".
Moral of the story: Don't communicate with prostitutes on a work phone.
The fact that you can say this proves Darwin was right.
A2
Was in CC this morning, and saw 2 HPD cars parked on the first floor. I did not visit anyone and left. Hope everything was okay. Any insight? PM is fine if you prefer. Thanks.
Today I saw that the University of Montana women's soccer coach lost his job after it was discovered that from 2015 to 2017, he texted 491 times with 10 Las Vegas-based "escorts" on his university-issued work cellphone. He had periodically been taking "recruiting trips" to Las Vegas. He said: "I acknowledge that I should not have used my university cell phone for personal messages. I apologize for this situation and understand I have to live with the consequences of my actions. My personal life did not impact the student athletes or my performance as a coach. I understand that people's perceptions will vary".
Moral of the story: Don't communicate with prostitutes on a work phone.
The fact that you can say this proves Darwin was right.
A2True story. And for the love of the hobby DO NOT CONNECT YOUR TABLET TO YOUR PHONE. I have had so many calls from S / O asking me why I'm texting their spouse. Or why is their spouse FaceTiming me. Just get burner phone. One that no one has the number.
Was in CC this morning, and saw 2 HPD cars parked on the first floor. I did not visit anyone and left. Hope everything was okay. Any insight? PM is fine if you prefer. Thanks.From what I was told new Thai girl at 3904 was being harassed by someone and that's all I know for now.
(Life can be rough for a streetwalker who goes with unknown men. The news report below is from Atlanta, but I remember years ago advising a downtown Honolulu streetwalker that she should leave the streets because she was too nice and naive. Unfortunately, she didn't follow that advice. Subsequently she was killed and left in a garbage dumpster. The case was investigated by the police but never solved).
Construction worker convicted of killing woman who refused to accept $8 for sex.
Felix XXXXXXX was convicted of murdering Misha XXXXX.
He offered Misha XXXXX $8 in exchange for sex.
When XXXXX said it wasn't enough, he beat and killed her.
On Friday, a jury convicted XXXXXXX of murder in the 2017 killing.
XXXXXXX had just ended his shift working on the Mercedes-Benz Stadium when 27-year-old XXXXX approached him and offered him sex in exchange for money, Fulton County district attorney spokeswoman Nakell Williams said in a news release.
The two walked toward Underground Atlanta mall, where XXXXXXX handed XXXXX $8.
When she told him it was "not enough," XXXXXXX grabbed XXXXX and threw her against a wall. She fell to the ground and XXXXXXX kicked and stomped her. Authorities say he then pulled out a revolver and shot XXXXX in her face and neck.
The murder was captured on surveillance video. XXXXX's body was eventually found lying at the bottom of a stairwell by two security officers.
XXXXXXX was sentenced to life in prison, plus five years.
Cosmic Kid
03-06-18, 23:19
True story. And for the love of the hobby DO NOT CONNECT YOUR TABLET TO YOUR PHONE. I have had so many calls from S / O asking me why I'm texting their spouse. Or why is their spouse FaceTiming me. Just get burner phone. One that no one has the number.Jenna, I'm wondering what you say in response to those women?
Today I saw that the University of Montana women's soccer coach lost his job after it was discovered that from 2015 to 2017, he texted 491 times with 10 Las Vegas-based "escorts" on his university-issued work cellphone. He had periodically been taking "recruiting trips" to Las Vegas. He said: "I acknowledge that I should not have used my university cell phone for personal messages. I apologize for this situation and understand I have to live with the consequences of my actions. My personal life did not impact the student athletes or my performance as a coach. I understand that people's perceptions will vary".
Moral of the story: Don't communicate with prostitutes on a work phone.
The fact that you can say this proves Darwin was right.
A2C'Mon. Now there are so many options, prepaid phone, unlocked phone, and apps. Think with you big head instead of your little head.
C'Mon. Now there are so many options, prepaid phone, unlocked phone, and apps. Think with you big head instead of your little head.To be honest, the phone company can pull up anybody's phone records for years. If your wife / gf suspects you of cheating, you guys are on the same phone bill, she can match up all the AMPs to you!
To be honest, the phone company can pull up anybody's phone records for years. If your wife / gf suspects you of cheating, you guys are on the same phone bill, she can match up all the AMPs to you!Best advice is always keep a monger phone.
Lady that got busted for molesting the Japanese boys looks homey enough and could have been making money with guys banging her like the Chinese vacant house young ins. Bummer for her.
Paul Bishay
03-09-18, 23:41
Lady that got busted for molesting the Japanese boys looks homey enough and could have been making money with guys banging her like the Chinese vacant house young ins. Bummer for her.I would have gladly satisfy her needs for free so she would not get arrested for molesting the poor young innocent boys. Seen her picture on the news and she looks doable for me and probably for the vast majority of the guys on this forum. So, if there are any horny young women out there, you can PM me for free service (wishful thinking and dreaming) ha, ha,. LOL.
Lady that got busted for molesting the Japanese boys looks homey enough and could have been making money with guys banging her like the Chinese vacant house young ins. Bummer for her.I know. She looked hot. I was like, why the hell she banging a kid for? She could have called me and I'd let her "rape" me. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37674354/police-hawaii-recruiter-sexually-assaulted-boy-multiple-times-while-he-was-bedridden. https://crimewatchdaily.com/2018/03/09/police-woman-who-recruited-exchange-students-to-hawaii-raped-one-while-he-was-bedridden/
Lady that got busted for molesting the Japanese XXXX looks homey enough and could have been making money with guys banging her like the Chinese vacant house young ins. Bummer for her.
I would have gladly satisfy her needs for free so she would not get arrested for molesting the XXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX. Seen her picture on the news and she looks doable for me and probably for the vast majority of the guys on this forum.
I know. She looked hot. I was like, why the hell she banging a XXX for? She could have called me and I'd let her "rape" me. Perhaps she was not seeking consensual sexual activity (which would be easy to find for a mid-thirties, reasonably attractive Asian woman), or even a fantasy where a consenting adult man would pretend to be sexually assaulted, but rather was psychologically and physically turned on by exerting her sexual power and authority over a disabled male who could not effectively resist for several reasons. Similar to how some male rapists could obtain a consenting woman, but are turned on by the thrill (in their criminal minds) of forced sexual activity.
TomAssCan9
03-11-18, 17:45
I would have gladly satisfy her needs for free so she would not get arrested for molesting the poor young innocent boys. Seen her picture on the news and she looks doable for me and probably for the vast majority of the guys on this forum. So, if there are any horny young women out there, you can PM me for free service (wishful thinking and dreaming) ha, ha,. LOL.Yap my Bradduh I would give her for free to.
Yap my Bradduh I would give her for free to.If I was a 16 year old banging a hot older woman, I wouldn't complain. LOL.
Yap my Bradduh I would give her for free to.Yeah, maybe some moderator can take up that suggestion, since it'll provide a FREE service to both the dogs in heat and horny females off the street and out of trouble from LE. It'll help reduce Keith Kaneshiro's work load too and actually save taxpayer's money from all those expensive investigations.
Maybe name and label the thread as "69" for your time and link it up to some alert application exclusively to FORUM members only, GPS included. Ha ha, guarenteed she'll be satisfied all the time and who knows, might even lower the prices some independents overcharge, more competition.
If I was a XX year old banging a hot older woman, I wouldn't complain. LOL.Normally, I would agree. However, according to news reports this isn't a normal case. During at least some of the alleged sexual assaults (and maybe during all of them) the male was "bedridden due to a head injury" and "unable to go to the bathroom alone, prepare meals or change clothes". So it's understandable how in that disabled condition, he may not have enjoyed involuntary sexual activity. Plus, at this point we don't know exactly what she was sexually doing to him. It might have included activity that was sadistic or at least unpleasant for him (such as being penetrated anally or being forced to eat a smelly pussy or anus).
Hello fellow mongers. Anyone been following the "progress" of the FOSTA-SESTA bill? I'm worried about the continued existence of valuable online forums such as this could be in jeopardy. Basically the bill eliminates protections from 1996 communications decency act so prosecutors can hold platforms responsible for content. Backpage, craigslist, etc.
"The practical result of this legal risk for intermediaries will be broad-based censorship. This bill jeopardizes not only classified ads sites but also dating apps, discussion forums, social media sites, and any other service that hosts user-generated content".
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/01/sex-trafficking-bill-free-speech/
https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/the-antisex-trafficking-bill-sesta-fosta-will-hurt-the-internet.html
https://youtu.be/K6rX3U_s2yo
Disturbing. Anyone else worried about this? How will AMPs and providers advertise after this passes? Will all communications here need to be encrypted?
I discovered this site in 2015 and have experienced a literal sexual renaissance on the Islands, has been amazing beyond belief. And I owe much of the gained knowledge and intel from this site. Would be lost without it haha!
Hello fellow mongers. Anyone been following the "progress" of the FOSTA-SESTA bill? I'm worried about the continued existence of valuable online forums such as this could be in jeopardy.While holding a passport from a non US Country, from a web site who's servers are in Germany why do I give a fuck what law they pass in your country.
It's against the law in and Korea to criticize the government.
Kim Jong-un is a crazy fat fucker with a stupid haircut.
There, I just broke the law in North Korea. I'm not really all that worried about it.
Are you smelling what I'm cooking?
A2.
While holding a passport from a non US Country, from a web site who's servers are in Germany why do I give a fuck what law they pass in your country.
It's against the law in and Korea to criticize the government.
Kim Jong-un is a crazy fat fucker with a stupid haircut.
There, I just broke the law in North Korea. I'm not really all that worried about it.
Are you smelling what I'm cooking?
A2.I'm just a caveman who knows nothing about computer science, but how is it the servers are in Canada, then South America, and now Germany?
A senior director at a NASDAQ-traded company is suing his teenage ex-girlfriend after she allegedly lied about her age, exploited him for financial gain, and then threatened to ruin his life after he broke off their seven-month relationship.
Court documents obtained by Daily Mail reveal the Chicago business consultant, 45, who filed as John Doe, is seeking at least $1,500,000 in damages from 19-year-old Jessica Jiahui Lee.
In addition, he has requested an emergency order of protection in Illinois and in Texas, where Lee is from.
Daily Mail is aware of the man's identity but has chosen not to name him here.
Counsel for the plaintiff, Ryan Jacobson of the SmithAmundsen Law Firm, said: "My client and the offender dated just seven months before the truth about her life began to surface. When he decided to part ways, she became vindictive and sought to destroy his reputation amongst family members, friends and business associates. Fortunately, the law provides civil recourse and stiff criminal penalties against those, like Ms. Lee, who think they can hide behind the Internet to terrorize another from hundreds of miles away. Ms. Lee has been served with the Complaint, yet she continues to defame and harass my client to no end. I can assure you, there will be consequences".
The pair began dating after Doe met the then 18-year-old while he had been traveling to Las Vegas for business in early 2017.
Doe claims Lee's "mental instability was not nearly as apparent" during the course of their relationship as it was after their break-up.
He had provided emotional and financial support for the teen, paying for her "car insurance, groceries, and treatments," court papers reveal.
Doe, who is described as a "technology professional with over 20 years of consulting experience," claims he met Lee while he was going through a divorce from his wife of 10 years, "was in an emotionally vulnerable state," and found solace in the girl.
The teen had told Doe she was 25 and worked in consulting, but it was later revealed she is 19 and works as a "professional sugar baby," the suit states.
However, months into the relationship, he says he grew suspicious after he realized Lee's story was "not adding up".
"He discovered Lee had considerably misrepresented her age (she stated she was 25 but was only 19), and she lied about her profession (she stated she was employed by Boston Consulting Group but was actually an exotic dancer and professional sugar baby)," court papers state.
Doe also claimed that Lee, who is originally from Plano, Texas, had allegedly used aliases and engaged in multiple "for-profit relationships" offering sexual favors to men in exchange for jewelry, clothes, and expensive trips around the world.
After her lies were exposed, the documents claim, the teen manipulated him into taking pity on her by claiming she was a victim of child abuse, struggled with drug addiction, and was suicidal.
Doe eventually ended the "toxic" relationship in September 2017, but what followed were months of retaliation and threats from Lee, including a time when she vandalized his car, the suit states.
"Lee enlisted the help of others to barrage plaintiff with phone calls and texts demanding financial support, which he flatly refused. The more often plaintiff rejected or ignored Lee's demands, the more pervasive her threats were toward him," the lawsuit read. "Lee blamed plaintiff for her likely suicide or need to resort to prostitution after his heartless decision to abandon her".
After their breakup, Lee allegedly resorted to retaliation by harassing Doe, creating phony dating profiles under his name, and threatening him. In November, Doe's building management office notified him that his Lexus had been vandalized in the garage.
Security footage showed Lee allegedly punctured tires, scratched the car, and spray-painted swastikas on the vehicle.
Weeks after their break-up, Doe alleges he began receiving phone calls and texts from Lee demanding money at "all hours of the evening," which he ignored.
The teen then allegedly resorted to threats by warning she would expose him as a cheater and a rapist, according to the documents.
A text message sent to Doe from Lee on October 15 stated: "You're the same guy who ducking (sic) raped me and is cheating on your wife. I'll make sure everyone knows. And I'll take care of my own car insurance, groceries and treatments. But I'll make sure everyone you know and everyone in your whole friend group knows what kind of person you really are. You can go fuck yourself. You are nothing but a piece of shit, same as every other guy. I wouldn't have done all those things if I were you".
According to the suit, Lee proceeded to contact Doe's estranged wife by using a bogus Facebook account and disclosing private information that Lee had learned during their relationship.
She also told her that Doe had sexually assaulted her so that his wife "would have leverage in their division of marital assets" in their divorce, the suit states.
Doe's wife filed a complaint against Lee with the San Francisco Police Department.
However, Lee reportedly continued with her retaliation and turned to her social media accounts to publicly shame Doe.
A second message from Lee to Doe read: "You ruined your own life. I gave you fair warning what would happen if you disrespected me and threw me away".
On October 16, the teen uploaded a lengthy and now-deleted post detailing her "abusive relationship" to her 30,000 followers on Instagram.
"Hey followers! Just want to make a quick announcement to every girl (and guy) that follows me. For the past couple of months I was in an abusive relationship and NOBODY knew about it. The people that were close to me could always see that something was bothering me and that I would cry constantly but nobody knew what was truly wrong," she wrote.
"For example, the second date I ever went on with this guy, I explicitly told him that sex was out of the question and simply not on the table (because he was married at the time but going through a divorce) and also because I wanted genuine respect before committing sexually to a guy I barely knew. Yet, after telling him all of this and all the trauma I'd already went through with other guys, he selfishly took my body that night".
Lee added that her boyfriend would allegedly lash out on her physically and verbally, and called her a "wh*ore" after sleeping with him.
Days later, Lee, or a person believed to be acting for her, created a fake Instagram account using an abbreviation of Doe's name and followed his friends and family.
"Lee then posted private, naked photos of the plaintiff on the account's feed, including some depicting him undressed and exposing his genitalia. These photos were unknowingly taken during an intimate FaceTime session while the two were dating. In fact, the plaintiff had not learned of the existence of these photos until she used them to harass and humiliate him," court papers state.
Doe claims that Lee continued with her rampage by creating phony online dating profiles of him and posting a solicitation of him on Craigslist titled: "FIND THE MAN WHO RAPED MY DAUGHTER," with his phone number.
Lee also took to LinkedIn to create an account in Doe's likeness using Doe's genitalia as the profile photo in an alleged attempt to humiliate him in the workplace.
She identified his employer on his profile and wrote: "I hate working for (employer omitted)! I also hate my clients! I am also very drunk," court papers read. "The profile goes on to identify specific clients by name, and it included a personal note to a professional colleague disparaging her capabilities".
The documents claim that Lee created fake profiles on Tinder and OK-Cupid using Doe's likeness, real name, cell phone number and other personal information. Lee identified him as "a male seeking other males," and it is believed she solicited risque pictures as a precursor to any in-person encounter.
Then Doe received two LifeLock alerts concerning an inquiry into his credit information. It is believed Lee attempted to apply for a loan or credit card using Doe's name and personal information.
In late November, after learning that Doe had filed for an order of protection, Lee allegedly contacted him begging him to withdraw the petition.
"We live literally states apart. We'll never see each other again. So please just drop it and save yourself some money and time. I'm truly sorry for every embarrassment I've caused you. It was all my fault, everything was my fault, I'll take the blame, all I want is for you to drop this," a text message read.
But that same morning, Doe's building management office informed him his car had been vandalized.
Security footage showed Lee entered the building with an "unsuspecting resident" who allowed her to get into the garage.
"Lee then punctured three of his four tires, used a sharp item to scratch all four quarter panels of the vehicle, inserted super glue into the locks and spray-painted swastikas in black on several panels of his car," documents state.
Shortly after, Doe hired a legal team and sent a formal notice to Lee.
According to court papers, Lee has contacted Doe from "untraceable" phone numbers as recently as February 1.
"The plaintiff harbors a reasonable fear for his own personal safety, and the safety of those around him, in light of Lee's escalating, unpredictable, and unexplainably vindictive behavior following a mere seven-month dating relationship that simply did not work out," his attorneys state.
They are also demanding a trial by jury and damages for emotional distress.
A clear case of thinking with ones dick.
A senior director at a NASDAQ-traded company is suing his teenage ex-girlfriend after she allegedly lied about her age, exploited him for financial gain, and then threatened to ruin his life after he broke off their seven-month relationship.
Court documents obtained by Daily Mail reveal the Chicago business consultant, 45, who filed as John Doe, is seeking at least $1,500,000 in damages from 19-year-old Jessica Jiahui Lee.
In addition, he has requested an emergency order of protection in Illinois and in Texas, where Lee is from.
Daily Mail is aware of the man's identity but has chosen not to name him here.
Counsel for the plaintiff, Ryan Jacobson of the SmithAmundsen Law Firm, said: "My client and the offender dated just seven months before the truth about her life began to surface. When he decided to part ways, she became vindictive and sought to destroy his reputation amongst family members, friends and business associates. Fortunately, the law provides civil recourse and stiff criminal penalties against those, like Ms. Lee, who think they can hide behind the Internet to terrorize another from hundreds of miles away. Ms. Lee has been served with the Complaint, yet she continues to defame and harass my client to no end. I can assure you, there will be consequences".
The pair began dating after Doe met the then 18-year-old while he had been traveling to Las Vegas for business in early 2017.
Doe claims Lee's "mental instability was not nearly as apparent" during the course of their relationship as it was after their break-up.
He had provided emotional and financial support for the teen, paying for her "car insurance, groceries, and treatments," court papers reveal.
Doe, who is described as a "technology professional with over 20 years of consulting experience," claims he met Lee while he was going through a divorce from his wife of 10 years, "was in an emotionally vulnerable state," and found solace in the girl.
The teen had told Doe she was 25 and worked in consulting, but it was later revealed she is 19 and works as a "professional sugar baby," the suit states.
However, months into the relationship, he says he grew suspicious after he realized Lee's story was "not adding up".
"He discovered Lee had considerably misrepresented her age (she stated she was 25 but was only 19), and she lied about her profession (she stated she was employed by Boston Consulting Group but was actually an exotic dancer and professional sugar baby)," court papers state.
Doe also claimed that Lee, who is originally from Plano, Texas, had allegedly used aliases and engaged in multiple "for-profit relationships" offering sexual favors to men in exchange for jewelry, clothes, and expensive trips around the world.
After her lies were exposed, the documents claim, the teen manipulated him into taking pity on her by claiming she was a victim of child abuse, struggled with drug addiction, and was suicidal.
Doe eventually ended the "toxic" relationship in September 2017, but what followed were months of retaliation and threats from Lee, including a time when she vandalized his car, the suit states.
"Lee enlisted the help of others to barrage plaintiff with phone calls and texts demanding financial support, which he flatly refused. The more often plaintiff rejected or ignored Lee's demands, the more pervasive her threats were toward him," the lawsuit read. "Lee blamed plaintiff for her likely suicide or need to resort to prostitution after his heartless decision to abandon her".
After their breakup, Lee allegedly resorted to retaliation by harassing Doe, creating phony dating profiles under his name, and threatening him. In November, Doe's building management office notified him that his Lexus had been vandalized in the garage.
Security footage showed Lee allegedly punctured tires, scratched the car, and spray-painted swastikas on the vehicle.
Weeks after their break-up, Doe alleges he began receiving phone calls and texts from Lee demanding money at "all hours of the evening," which he ignored.
The teen then allegedly resorted to threats by warning she would expose him as a cheater and a rapist, according to the documents.
A text message sent to Doe from Lee on October 15 stated: "You're the same guy who ducking (sic) raped me and is cheating on your wife. I'll make sure everyone knows. And I'll take care of my own car insurance, groceries and treatments. But I'll make sure everyone you know and everyone in your whole friend group knows what kind of person you really are. You can go fuck yourself. You are nothing but a piece of shit, same as every other guy. I wouldn't have done all those things if I were you".
According to the suit, Lee proceeded to contact Doe's estranged wife by using a bogus Facebook account and disclosing private information that Lee had learned during their relationship.
She also told her that Doe had sexually assaulted her so that his wife "would have leverage in their division of marital assets" in their divorce, the suit states.
Doe's wife filed a complaint against Lee with the San Francisco Police Department.
However, Lee reportedly continued with her retaliation and turned to her social media accounts to publicly shame Doe.
A second message from Lee to Doe read: "You ruined your own life. I gave you fair warning what would happen if you disrespected me and threw me away".
On October 16, the teen uploaded a lengthy and now-deleted post detailing her "abusive relationship" to her 30,000 followers on Instagram.
"Hey followers! Just want to make a quick announcement to every girl (and guy) that follows me. For the past couple of months I was in an abusive relationship and NOBODY knew about it. The people that were close to me could always see that something was bothering me and that I would cry constantly but nobody knew what was truly wrong," she wrote.
"For example, the second date I ever went on with this guy, I explicitly told him that sex was out of the question and simply not on the table (because he was married at the time but going through a divorce) and also because I wanted genuine respect before committing sexually to a guy I barely knew. Yet, after telling him all of this and all the trauma I'd already went through with other guys, he selfishly took my body that night".
Lee added that her boyfriend would allegedly lash out on her physically and verbally, and called her a "wh*ore" after sleeping with him.
Days later, Lee, or a person believed to be acting for her, created a fake Instagram account using an abbreviation of Doe's name and followed his friends and family.
"Lee then posted private, naked photos of the plaintiff on the account's feed, including some depicting him undressed and exposing his genitalia. These photos were unknowingly taken during an intimate FaceTime session while the two were dating. In fact, the plaintiff had not learned of the existence of these photos until she used them to harass and humiliate him," court papers state.
Doe claims that Lee continued with her rampage by creating phony online dating profiles of him and posting a solicitation of him on Craigslist titled: "FIND THE MAN WHO RAPED MY DAUGHTER," with his phone number.
Lee also took to LinkedIn to create an account in Doe's likeness using Doe's genitalia as the profile photo in an alleged attempt to humiliate him in the workplace.
She identified his employer on his profile and wrote: "I hate working for (employer omitted)! I also hate my clients! I am also very drunk," court papers read. "The profile goes on to identify specific clients by name, and it included a personal note to a professional colleague disparaging her capabilities".
The documents claim that Lee created fake profiles on Tinder and OK-Cupid using Doe's likeness, real name, cell phone number and other personal information. Lee identified him as "a male seeking other males," and it is believed she solicited risque pictures as a precursor to any in-person encounter.
Then Doe received two LifeLock alerts concerning an inquiry into his credit information. It is believed Lee attempted to apply for a loan or credit card using Doe's name and personal information.
In late November, after learning that Doe had filed for an order of protection, Lee allegedly contacted him begging him to withdraw the petition.
"We live literally states apart. We'll never see each other again. So please just drop it and save yourself some money and time. I'm truly sorry for every embarrassment I've caused you. It was all my fault, everything was my fault, I'll take the blame, all I want is for you to drop this," a text message read.
But that same morning, Doe's building management office informed him his car had been vandalized.
Security footage showed Lee entered the building with an "unsuspecting resident" who allowed her to get into the garage.
"Lee then punctured three of his four tires, used a sharp item to scratch all four quarter panels of the vehicle, inserted super glue into the locks and spray-painted swastikas in black on several panels of his car," documents state.
Shortly after, Doe hired a legal team and sent a formal notice to Lee.
According to court papers, Lee has contacted Doe from "untraceable" phone numbers as recently as February 1.
"The plaintiff harbors a reasonable fear for his own personal safety, and the safety of those around him, in light of Lee's escalating, unpredictable, and unexplainably vindictive behavior following a mere seven-month dating relationship that simply did not work out," his attorneys state.
They are also demanding a trial by jury and damages for emotional distress.
While holding a passport from a non US Country, from a web site who's servers are in Germany why do I give a fuck what law they pass in your country.
It's against the law in and Korea to criticize the government.
Kim Jong-un is a crazy fat fucker with a stupid haircut.
There, I just broke the law in North Korea. I'm not really all that worried about it.
Are you smelling what I'm cooking?
A2.He should have executed his barber a long time ago.
Oh good god no, we need that man or otherwise people might take him more seriously.
A2
Lonely Smiles
03-19-18, 18:35
A senior director at a NASDAQ-traded company is suing his teenage ex-girlfriend after she allegedly lied about her age, exploited him for financial gain, and then threatened to ruin his life after he broke off their seven-month relationship.
Thanks Red. That news story is a good reminder: always be careful what you wish for. There are a lot of smoke and mirrors in the sex trade. A 1 hour paid "girlfriend" experience tells you next to nothing about what this person is really like on a day to day basis. Tread lightly.
"He discovered Lee had considerably misrepresented her age (she stated she was 25 but was only 19), and she lied about her profession (she stated she was employed by Boston Consulting Group but was actually an exotic dancer and professional sugar baby)," court papers state.I'm shocked SHOCKED! that the woman pictured in your post was actually a stripper and sugar baby and not a consultant with the Boston Consulting Group! I don't know what to believe anymore! / sarcasm.
Lonely Smiles
03-19-18, 19:36
I'm shocked SHOCKED! that the woman pictured in your post was actually a stripper and sugar baby and not a consultant with the Boston Consulting Group! I don't know what to believe anymore! / sarcasm.I do think that this consultant likely knew exactly what kind of woman he was going after. Then when the arrangement went sour and she started trying to claw for more, his story has conveniently changed so that he looks like 100% the victim. It's much easier to tell all of your sexually repressed protestant colleagues at work that you "didn't know she was an escort / sugar baby" and that you were taken advantage of. Much easier than admitting you went on a sugar daddy site and then went too deep with a sociopath.
I do think that this consultant likely knew exactly what kind of woman he was going after. Then when the arrangement went sour and she started trying to claw for more, his story has conveniently changed so that he looks like 100% the victim. It's much easier to tell all of your sexually repressed protestant colleagues at work that you "didn't know she was an escort / sugar baby" and that you were taken advantage of. Much easier than admitting you went on a sugar daddy site and then went too deep with a sociopath.
I'm shocked SHOCKED! that the woman pictured in your post was actually a stripper and sugar baby and not a consultant with the Boston Consulting Group! I don't know what to believe anymore! / sarcasm.Yes, I also think that as a "technology professional with over 20 years of consulting experience," he realized rather quickly that this teenage exotic dancer / sugar baby wasn't a consultant for Boston Consulting Group. BCG is among the leading consulting firms in the world and has quite high standards.
Anyway, got to go, I have a female brain surgeon waiting for me downtown tonight on South Kukui Street (LOL).
Time to do research and get opinion from college students Vanilla, Chloe, Sasha and Apple. They seem to know the ins and outs of consulting as they subcontract and do internalships during breaks from classes. Must be tough competing with consultants like this one.
Yes, I also think that as a "technology professional with over 20 years of consulting experience," he realized rather quickly that this teenage exotic dancer / sugar baby wasn't a consultant for Boston Consulting Group. BCG is among the leading consulting firms in the world and has quite high standards.
Anyway, got to go, I have a female brain surgeon waiting for me downtown tonight on South Kukui Street (LOL).
Idusixtyning
03-20-18, 18:51
A senior director at a NASDAQ-traded company is suing his teenage ex-girlfriend after she allegedly lied about her age, exploited him for financial gain, and then threatened to ruin his life after he broke off their seven-month relationship.
Court documents obtained by Daily Mail reveal the Chicago business consultant, 45, who filed as John Doe, is seeking at least $1,500,000 in damages from 19-year-old Jessica Jiahui Lee.
In addition, he has requested an emergency order of protection in Illinois and in Texas, where Lee is from.
Daily Mail is aware of the man's identity but has chosen not to name him here.
Counsel for the plaintiff, Ryan Jacobson of the SmithAmundsen Law Firm, said: "My client and the offender dated just seven months before the truth about her life began to surface. When he decided to part ways, she became vindictive and sought to destroy his reputation amongst family members, friends and business associates. Fortunately, the law provides civil recourse and stiff criminal penalties against those, like Ms. Lee, who think they can hide behind the Internet to terrorize another from hundreds of miles away. Ms. Lee has been served with the Complaint, yet she continues to defame and harass my client to no end. I can assure you, there will be consequences".
The pair began dating after Doe met the then 18-year-old while he had been traveling to Las Vegas for business in early 2017.
Doe claims Lee's "mental instability was not nearly as apparent" during the course of their relationship as it was after their break-up.
He had provided emotional and financial support for the teen, paying for her "car insurance, groceries, and treatments," court papers reveal.
Doe, who is described as a "technology professional with over 20 years of consulting experience," claims he met Lee while he was going through a divorce from his wife of 10 years, "was in an emotionally vulnerable state," and found solace in the girl.
The teen had told Doe she was 25 and worked in consulting, but it was later revealed she is 19 and works as a "professional sugar baby," the suit states.
However, months into the relationship, he says he grew suspicious after he realized Lee's story was "not adding up".
"He discovered Lee had considerably misrepresented her age (she stated she was 25 but was only 19), and she lied about her profession (she stated she was employed by Boston Consulting Group but was actually an exotic dancer and professional sugar baby)," court papers state.
Doe also claimed that Lee, who is originally from Plano, Texas, had allegedly used aliases and engaged in multiple "for-profit relationships" offering sexual favors to men in exchange for jewelry, clothes, and expensive trips around the world.
After her lies were exposed, the documents claim, the teen manipulated him into taking pity on her by claiming she was a victim of child abuse, struggled with drug addiction, and was suicidal.
Doe eventually ended the "toxic" relationship in September 2017, but what followed were months of retaliation and threats from Lee, including a time when she vandalized his car, the suit states.
"Lee enlisted the help of others to barrage plaintiff with phone calls and texts demanding financial support, which he flatly refused. The more often plaintiff rejected or ignored Lee's demands, the more pervasive her threats were toward him," the lawsuit read. "Lee blamed plaintiff for her likely suicide or need to resort to prostitution after his heartless decision to abandon her".
After their breakup, Lee allegedly resorted to retaliation by harassing Doe, creating phony dating profiles under his name, and threatening him. In November, Doe's building management office notified him that his Lexus had been vandalized in the garage.
Security footage showed Lee allegedly punctured tires, scratched the car, and spray-painted swastikas on the vehicle.
Weeks after their break-up, Doe alleges he began receiving phone calls and texts from Lee demanding money at "all hours of the evening," which he ignored.
The teen then allegedly resorted to threats by warning she would expose him as a cheater and a rapist, according to the documents.
A text message sent to Doe from Lee on October 15 stated: "You're the same guy who ducking (sic) raped me and is cheating on your wife. I'll make sure everyone knows. And I'll take care of my own car insurance, groceries and treatments. But I'll make sure everyone you know and everyone in your whole friend group knows what kind of person you really are. You can go fuck yourself. You are nothing but a piece of shit, same as every other guy. I wouldn't have done all those things if I were you".
According to the suit, Lee proceeded to contact Doe's estranged wife by using a bogus Facebook account and disclosing private information that Lee had learned during their relationship.
She also told her that Doe had sexually assaulted her so that his wife "would have leverage in their division of marital assets" in their divorce, the suit states.
Doe's wife filed a complaint against Lee with the San Francisco Police Department.
However, Lee reportedly continued with her retaliation and turned to her social media accounts to publicly shame Doe.
A second message from Lee to Doe read: "You ruined your own life. I gave you fair warning what would happen if you disrespected me and threw me away".
On October 16, the teen uploaded a lengthy and now-deleted post detailing her "abusive relationship" to her 30,000 followers on Instagram.
"Hey followers! Just want to make a quick announcement to every girl (and guy) that follows me. For the past couple of months I was in an abusive relationship and NOBODY knew about it. The people that were close to me could always see that something was bothering me and that I would cry constantly but nobody knew what was truly wrong," she wrote.
"For example, the second date I ever went on with this guy, I explicitly told him that sex was out of the question and simply not on the table (because he was married at the time but going through a divorce) and also because I wanted genuine respect before committing sexually to a guy I barely knew. Yet, after telling him all of this and all the trauma I'd already went through with other guys, he selfishly took my body that night".
Lee added that her boyfriend would allegedly lash out on her physically and verbally, and called her a "wh*ore" after sleeping with him.
Days later, Lee, or a person believed to be acting for her, created a fake Instagram account using an abbreviation of Doe's name and followed his friends and family.
"Lee then posted private, naked photos of the plaintiff on the account's feed, including some depicting him undressed and exposing his genitalia. These photos were unknowingly taken during an intimate FaceTime session while the two were dating. In fact, the plaintiff had not learned of the existence of these photos until she used them to harass and humiliate him," court papers state.
Doe claims that Lee continued with her rampage by creating phony online dating profiles of him and posting a solicitation of him on Craigslist titled: "FIND THE MAN WHO RAPED MY DAUGHTER," with his phone number.
Lee also took to LinkedIn to create an account in Doe's likeness using Doe's genitalia as the profile photo in an alleged attempt to humiliate him in the workplace.
She identified his employer on his profile and wrote: "I hate working for (employer omitted)! I also hate my clients! I am also very drunk," court papers read. "The profile goes on to identify specific clients by name, and it included a personal note to a professional colleague disparaging her capabilities".
The documents claim that Lee created fake profiles on Tinder and OK-Cupid using Doe's likeness, real name, cell phone number and other personal information. Lee identified him as "a male seeking other males," and it is believed she solicited risque pictures as a precursor to any in-person encounter.
Then Doe received two LifeLock alerts concerning an inquiry into his credit information. It is believed Lee attempted to apply for a loan or credit card using Doe's name and personal information.
In late November, after learning that Doe had filed for an order of protection, Lee allegedly contacted him begging him to withdraw the petition.
"We live literally states apart. We'll never see each other again. So please just drop it and save yourself some money and time. I'm truly sorry for every embarrassment I've caused you. It was all my fault, everything was my fault, I'll take the blame, all I want is for you to drop this," a text message read.
But that same morning, Doe's building management office informed him his car had been vandalized.
Security footage showed Lee entered the building with an "unsuspecting resident" who allowed her to get into the garage.
"Lee then punctured three of his four tires, used a sharp item to scratch all four quarter panels of the vehicle, inserted super glue into the locks and spray-painted swastikas in black on several panels of his car," documents state.
Shortly after, Doe hired a legal team and sent a formal notice to Lee.
According to court papers, Lee has contacted Doe from "untraceable" phone numbers as recently as February 1.
"The plaintiff harbors a reasonable fear for his own personal safety, and the safety of those around him, in light of Lee's escalating, unpredictable, and unexplainably vindictive behavior following a mere seven-month dating relationship that simply did not work out," his attorneys state.
They are also demanding a trial by jury and damages for emotional distress.Even though this is a nightmare for him, he is fortunate she didn't scheme to get pregnant with his child.
Time to do research and get opinion from college students Vanilla, Chloe, Sasha and Apple. They seem to know the ins and outs of consulting as they subcontract and do internalships during breaks from classes. Must be tough competing with consultants like this one.If you belief any of these pros are in college you going get caught up like this bro. At least he had a plan to retaliate, it's not his first babygirl.
Phillybeauties
03-24-18, 02:36
https://www.wired.com/story/craigslist-shuts-personal-ads-for-fear-of-new-internet-law/?mbid=social_fb
https://www.wired.com/story/craigslist-shuts-personal-ads-for-fear-of-new-internet-law/?mbid=social_fbAlso: https://reason.com/blog/2018/03/21/senate-passes-fosta-sex-trafficking-bill.
Granted, Reason is a mouthpiece for the Libertarian Party, but FOSTA is a law that no one wanted, but was passed because congress wanted to look like it was doing something.
Such bullshit.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: better learn how to use VPNs, Onion browsers and TOR, the way things are going.
Also: https://reason.com/blog/2018/03/21/senate-passes-fosta-sex-trafficking-bill.
Granted, Reason is a mouthpiece for the Libertarian Party, but FOSTA is a law that no one wanted, but was passed because congress wanted to look like it was doing something.
Such bullshit.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: better learn how to use VPNs, Onion browsers and TOR, the way things are going.I see that TER no longer has ads for USA Providers. TER only lists other countries now.
We aren't going anywhere
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds
Just saying,
A2
What I'd give to have a Libertarian government.As a libertarian myself, of course I agree! Indeed, most Americans claim that they support "freedom" when it's presented as a purely abstract concept.
In reality, however, too many Americans (both conservatives and liberals) only support freedom for people and activities they like, and are willing or even eager to use government to suppress freedom for people and activities they dislike. For example, a conservative may strongly support the freedom to bear arms, but adamantly oppose the freedom of marriage for "G" people. A liberal may fully support freedom of speech for civil rights protestors, but favor restrictions on freedom of speech for anti-abortion protestors. Relatively few people are so genuinely principled that they equally support freedom even for people and activities they dislike. So in my opinion, unfortunately there's no realistic chance of ever electing a libertarian-majority Congress or a truly libertarian President in this country.
most Americans claim that they support "freedom" when it's presented as a purely abstract concept.But freedom is an abstract concept. Left and right differ mainly in whether their definition is "freedom to do something" or "freedom from being prevented from doing something". Every society on earth is an attempt to balance those two as well as maintain the good of the society as a whole. That last part is something Libertarians rarely talk about, but it's the basic membership fee for any society.
He should have executed his barber a long time ago.
Oh good god no, we need that man or otherwise people might take him more seriously.
A2I forgot to mention that Kim Jun Fat probably executed his personal trainer many years ago.
I forgot to mention that Kim Jun Fat probably executed his personal trainer many years ago.Telling that guy what he can and can't eat and that he needs to do one more rep probably isn't the best idea.
So our prez just like one of dah boys & like hottie BBFS with porn stars & playmates.
Melania Trump, 47, is not happy about the accusations that Donald Trump, 71, was careless and didn't use protection when he allegedly had sex with porn star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal.
So our prez just like one of dah boys & like hottie BBFS with porn stars & playmates.
Melania Trump, 47, is not happy about the accusations that Donald Trump, 71, was careless and didn't use protection when he allegedly had sex with porn star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal.LOL, ya, I'm sure that its the lack of protection that's got her pissed.
LOL, ya, I'm sure that its the lack of protection that's got her pissed.At least Trump hits up on good looking hotties unlike pass Presidents like Bill Clinton. What's the big deal about laying his pipe on Stormy Daniels or the others, hell I bet a good portion of Congress married senators are hitting it up in back rooms that we don't know about. It's like religion, the hypocrites who preach abstainness, but its ministers are busy jack-rabbiting all those "young tender little morsels".
At least Trump hits up on good looking hotties unlike pass Presidents like Bill Clinton. What's the big deal about laying his pipe on Stormy Daniels or the others, hell I bet a good portion of Congress married senators are hitting it up in back rooms that we don't know about. It's like religion, the hypocrites who preach abstainness, but its ministers are busy jack-rabbiting all those "young tender little morsels".Yup. No shit. Trump has had some hot women over the years. Ivana, Marla Maples, Stomy Daniels, . And Invanka. LOL. But, on the other hand Bill Clinton must be one sick fuck. What was he thinking. Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, and the fugliest of them all, Hillary. Fucking gross. I guess as always TEHO.
Today China decided to play the game TARIFFS also. Guess what? China won and there goes your 401 k and whatever you have in stocks and mutual funds. Fake news again. I don't think so.
Today China decided to play the game TARIFFS also. Guess what? China won and there goes your 401 k and whatever you have in stocks and mutual funds. Fake news again. I don't think so.Most 401 k do not invest in food products, the tariffs which China tacked on American imports which amounts to more symbolic gestures rather than a real trade war. America still dominates the world's market and other nations who at first think they got a good deal from China's "investments" are beginning to question such gestures. Take for instance China's so called "investments" in Sri Lanka's resources or Pacific Island's "hotels" in which China hired exclusively Chinese to build, which in turn sent most of the money back to China. The islands were stripped of its resources and left pretty much a waste pit since China does not respect labor laws or environment guidelines.
Most 401 k do not invest in food products, the tariffs which China tacked on American imports which amounts to more symbolic gestures rather than a real trade war. America still dominates the world's market and other nations who at first think they got a good deal from China's "investments" are beginning to question such gestures. Take for instance China's so called "investments" in Sri Lanka's resources or Pacific Island's "hotels" in which China hired exclusively Chinese to build, which in turn sent most of the money back to China. The islands were stripped of its resources and left pretty much a waste pit since China does not respect labor laws or environment guidelines.I hope your right. I don't want another 2008 again especially when I see AMZN tank $75 today and then another $7 aftermarket.
BlackLable
04-03-18, 04:31
Yup. No shit. Trump has had some hot women over the years. Ivana, Marla Maples, Stomy Daniels, . And Invanka. LOL. But, on the other hand Bill Clinton must be one sick fuck. What was he thinking. Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, and the fugliest of them all, Hillary. Fucking gross. I guess as always TEHO.YO, Sick fuck bill's cool man, remember he got a BJ from Monica dump a load on the blue dress in the White House.
He cried after a BJ from Paula (very pretty lady). My wife made a ton 7 figure in the market, any more she told me she would go to the White House and blow him. I told her better wash her mouth good before she come home. Lofso.
Trumpi, in office 1st year market (Dow) up 4000 points, man he can fuck all he like, he better watch out for them pakes.
America should amendment the constitution like China, one I really like to change (tho shell committee adultery.
E yo 11 we go Vegas.
Darkman808
04-03-18, 15:30
Today China decided to play the game TARIFFS also. Guess what? China won and there goes your 401 k and whatever you have in stocks and mutual funds. Fake news again. I don't think so.China 'exports' 4 X as much products to America than the USA sends to them. If they slap tariffs on us and escalate the trade war, in the long run, they will suffer greater harm than we will. The US is the largest market in the world, even if all the stuff China makes is mostly crap. The reality is, both sides are playing the (liberal) media and of course the msm will do / say anything to make Trump look bad. China has to tread lightly. At a time when their people and economy could take a turn for the worse, their gov't can't afford any hiccups even more the the US. The US, as a buyer, can easily be served by other low ball producers in the world. And there are many of them who would happily have our business.
YO, Sick fuck bill's cool man, remember he got a BJ from Monica dump a load on the blue dress in the White House.
He cried after a BJ from Paula (very pretty lady). My wife made a ton 7 figure in the market, any more she told me she would go to the White House and blow him. I told her better wash her mouth good before she come home. Lofso.
Trumpi, in office 1st year market (Dow) up 4000 points, man he can fuck all he like, he better watch out for them pakes.
America should amendment the constitution like China, one I really like to change (tho shell committee adultery.
E yo 11 we go Vegas.You remember the "Cigar" incident? While in the Oval Office, Bill stuck his cigar in Monica's moist pussy as he jerked off. Then he was smoking it later while he met with Yassir Arafat. So fucking hilarious.
Funny you mentioned Vegas. Just got back last week. Took a fucking beating. Damn 7 out, 7 out. That's all I heard. LOL.
You remember the "Cigar" incident? While in the Oval Office, Bill stuck his cigar in Monica's moist pussy as he jerked off. Then he was smoking it later while he met with Yassir Arafat. So fucking hilarious.
Funny you mentioned Vegas. Just got back last week. Took a fucking beating. Damn 7 out, 7 out. That's all I heard. LOL.That Billy goat is one sick puppy, but then he actually did Monica a big favor. Getting her on the world's map of cigar "enhancement" flavoring beyond the reputation of Cuban cigars. She got a huge potential market of Billy's cigar special. And then, you kind of wondered if Yassir Arafat took a few puffs from the same cigar and he never was the same again, as a matter of fact he kicked the bucket soon afterwards.
As a libertarian myself, of course I agree! Indeed, most Americans claim that they support "freedom" when it's presented as a purely abstract concept.
In reality, however, too many Americans (both conservatives and liberals) only support freedom for people and activities they like, and are willing or even eager to use government to suppress freedom for people and activities they dislike. For example, a conservative may strongly support the freedom to bear arms, but adamantly oppose the freedom of marriage for "G" people. A liberal may fully support freedom of speech for civil rights protestors, but favor restrictions on freedom of speech for anti-abortion protestors. Relatively few people are so genuinely principled that they equally support freedom even for people and activities they dislike. So in my opinion, unfortunately there's no realistic chance of ever electing a libertarian-majority Congress or a truly libertarian President in this country.Social liberal, fiscal conservative is the unicorn that will never happen. You want more freedoms, then you got to put up with the spending of the progressive agenda. You want fiscal responsibility then you got to put up with the moralistic theocrats that think you're the devil because you're a monger, smoke pot or like to gamble (I'm all 3 LOL). But as we see with trump and the gop now even tho they say they will reduce spending and be fiscally conservative, they serve up an enormous budget and spending package that only rand Paul, the closest thing to a libertarian we have tried to opposes. At least they cut the taxes.
AmpAddict808
04-04-18, 04:00
Today China decided to play the game TARIFFS also. Guess what? China won and there goes your 401 k and whatever you have in stocks and mutual funds. Fake news again. I don't think so.China needs our money much more than we need theirs but they won't say it. Without the money they get from us from the trade imbalance, their economy and military would suffer and possibly lead towards political instability. Their internal consumption cannot sustain their economy. They still do have a lot of poor people. They have to posture with their own tariffs to save face and not appear weak in front of the world but mostly in front of their own citizens, again to avoid political instability. They walk a fine line between capitalism and communism. There are other countries with cheap labor that can replace China to manufacture goods for US consumption. Trump is playing poker with China except he has more chips to play with (the US consumer economy).
I hope your right. I don't want another 2008 again especially when I see AMZN tank $75 today and then another $7 aftermarket.Just have to invest over the long term. S&P 500 was 683 at market bottom in 3/2009 (the previous high was 1561 in 10/2007). After 5 years, it recovered to 1878 in 3/2014. Today, the S&P 500 is at 2614. Could you imagine if someone invested $100k into the market in 3/2009? Be worth about $380k today. If you really feel Trump's policies will tank the economy, then move your investments to cash and wait to buy back in.
BlackLable
04-04-18, 06:46
AMP, we got some really intelligent people on the subject.
My research and gut feeling tell me the market still good.
Just some corrections now, I expected it earlier.
I think trump's a good business person.
Back in the aol, yahoo, cmgi, days make a ton playing the puts and calls.
Got a guy in our group made $8 million then lost back $5 million and died.
Remembered yahoo went 180 Pt's and all went 15 Pt's in one day.
I had 2000 sh Yahoo, 5000 sh aol, all from spilts.
Was sometimes in the mid 90th.
Well just got the look for the future, real estate has been great in the pass couple years.
IMHO, disclaimer, best of my recollections.
China needs our money much more than we need theirs but they won't say it. Without the money they get from us from the trade imbalance, their economy and military would suffer and possibly lead towards political instability. Their internal consumption cannot sustain their economy. They still do have a lot of poor people. They have to posture with their own tariffs to save face and not appear weak in front of the world but mostly in front of their own citizens, again to avoid political instability. They walk a fine line between capitalism and communism. There are other countries with cheap labor that can replace China to manufacture goods for US consumption. Trump is playing poker with China except he has more chips to play with (the US consumer economy).
Just have to invest over the long term. S&P 500 was 683 at market bottom in 3/2009 (the previous high was 1561 in 10/2007). After 5 years, it recovered to 1878 in 3/2014. Today, the S&P 500 is at 2614. Could you imagine if someone invested $100k into the market in 3/2009? Be worth about $380k today. If you really feel Trump's policies will tank the economy, then move your investments to cash and wait to buy back in.
China needs our money much more than we need theirs but they won't say it. Without the money they get from us from the trade imbalance, their economy and military would suffer and possibly lead towards political instability. Their internal consumption cannot sustain their economy. They still do have a lot of poor people. They have to posture with their own tariffs to save face and not appear weak in front of the world but mostly in front of their own citizens, again to avoid political instability. They walk a fine line between capitalism and communism. There are other countries with cheap labor that can replace China to manufacture goods for US consumption. Trump is playing poker with China except he has more chips to play with (the US consumer economy).
Just have to invest over the long term. S&P 500 was 683 at market bottom in 3/2009 (the previous high was 1561 in 10/2007). After 5 years, it recovered to 1878 in 3/2014. Today, the S&P 500 is at 2614. Could you imagine if someone invested $100k into the market in 3/2009? Be worth about $380k today. If you really feel Trump's policies will tank the economy, then move your investments to cash and wait to buy back in.You hit the nail right on the head. What else can I say?
Funny you mentioned Vegas. Just got back last week. Took a fucking beating. Damn 7 out, 7 out. That's all I heard. LOL.A wise man once told me, "you be lucky you hear action from ONE table. " Most times the dice is stink. When you get a hot streak, forget that Nani, your cocktail, even that dinner. Because you never know when it will happen.
Of course, you can always be public enemy number one and bet against the dice. Personally I relish the role of the villan. 🤣.
China needs our money much more than we need theirs but they won't say it. Without the money they get from us from the trade imbalance, their economy and military would suffer and possibly lead towards political instability. Their internal consumption cannot sustain their economy. They still do have a lot of poor people. They have to posture with their own tariffs to save face and not appear weak in front of the world but mostly in front of their own citizens, again to avoid political instability. They walk a fine line between capitalism and communism. There are other countries with cheap labor that can replace China to manufacture goods for US consumption. Trump is playing poker with China except he has more chips to play with (the US consumer economy).
Just have to invest over the long term. S&P 500 was 683 at market bottom in 3/2009 (the previous high was 1561 in 10/2007). After 5 years, it recovered to 1878 in 3/2014. Today, the S&P 500 is at 2614. Could you imagine if someone invested $100k into the market in 3/2009? Be worth about $380k today. If you really feel Trump's policies will tank the economy, then move your investments to cash and wait to buy back in.Thanks guys for your post.
China needs our money much more than we need theirs but they won't say it. Without the money they get from us from the trade imbalance, their economy and military would suffer and possibly lead towards political instability.
Just have to invest over the long term. S&P 500 was 683 at market bottom in 3/2009 (the previous high was 1561 in 10/2007). After 5 years, it recovered to 1878 in 3/2014. Today, the S&P 500 is at 2614. Could you imagine if someone invested $100k into the market in 3/2009? Be worth about $380k today. If you really feel Trump's policies will tank the economy, then move your investments to cash and wait to buy back in.Trump has directed his administration to slap on another $100 billion on Chinese imports. We should also seize properties they bought which amounts to $billions more that is owned by corrupt Chinese Communists Party members so that they are pressured to bring the necessary trade imbalance back in line. Chinese hotel tour anchor babies should have their US citizen papers frozen and deported immediately. Other nations that try to fill in the void should also be punished and see how fast these back-stabbing Chinese start talking sense instead of posturing to save face, when the masses start rioting for lack of food and higher prices.
Now for the time being its best to invest in long term conservative markets and not the stocks that fluctuate with fears of a trade war, America still dominates the world's economy. It is fools who let bullies like China get away with black mail, theft, threats and no respect for international or labor laws the reason why this paper dragon has established military bases in the South Seas.
AmpAddict808
04-06-18, 05:34
Thanks guys for your post.Looks like Trump is raising the stakes like in Texas Hold'em. China is going to have to call, raise or fold. It's a game that can hurt them badly in the long run if they keep increasing the stakes. Sure, the US market would be volatile and there will be short term pain but manufacturers will be driven by capitalism to relocate factories to other cheap labor countries over time (i.e Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan, Phillipines, Mexico) to supply US consumer demand. Then China will experience closed factories and lost jobs that cannot be recovered. Just like what they did to our manufacturing industries. There are 1.4 billion people in China that need their mouths fed to remain happy and not challenge the communist government. China does own a lot of US debt (Treasuries) but if they begin a selloff to disrupt the US economy, it may tank the value of the notes held by China. Be interesting to see what develops.
Punanilicr
04-06-18, 07:03
Looks like Trump is raising the stakes like in Texas Hold'em. China is going to have to call, raise or fold. It's a game that can hurt them badly in the long run if they keep increasing the stakes. Sure, the US market would be volatile and there will be short term pain but manufacturers will be driven by capitalism to relocate factories to other cheap labor countries over time (i.e Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan, Phillipines, Mexico) to supply US consumer demand. Then China will experience closed factories and lost jobs that cannot be recovered. Just like what they did to our manufacturing industries. There are 1.4 billion people in China that need their mouths fed to remain happy and not challenge the communist government. China does own a lot of US debt (Treasuries) but if they begin a selloff to disrupt the US economy, it may tank the value of the notes held by China. Be interesting to see what develops.China didn't just let companies come in for the cheap labor. Companies went for the cheap labor along with the hopes and promises of selling to 3 billion new customers. Cheap labor could have been had in the same hemisphere as the US, but the sales market wasn't there. Drumpf can try a trade war, but the US will be on the losing end. Our farmers and manufacturers will hurt long before Chinas will.
Little Dickie
04-06-18, 16:15
Breaking news.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/backpage-seized-fbi-article-1.3919071
CaveMan808
04-06-18, 16:38
Breaking news.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/backpage-seized-fbi-article-1.3919071Looks like the feds shut down the backpage for massage. Mojovillage.com May be a good place for Honolulu AMP to advertise. Mojovillage is big for Vegas.
Looks like the feds shut down the backpage for massage. Mojovillage.com May be a good place for Honolulu AMP to advertise. Mojovillage is big for Vegas.Seems like no new posts in Craigslist's Honolulu therapeutic section also. The last one was yesterday. Many girls will be hurting for business.
How safe is this site from being shutdown?
Mongers Rus
04-06-18, 17:21
Looks like the feds shut down the backpage for massage. Mojovillage.com May be a good place for Honolulu AMP to advertise. Mojovillage is big for Vegas.Not just massage, the whole site. CEO arrested.
StopDaRail2
04-06-18, 17:35
These website operators should've learned their lesson after redbook got closed down. Feds will use the "trafficking" angle to shut down these sites. Should've moved their servers and offices overseas a long time ago. Hopefully AMPs will start letting us do lineups again! Going retro to the good old days of seven and New York!
Looks like the feds shut down the backpage for massage. Mojovillage.com May be a good place for Honolulu AMP to advertise. Mojovillage is big for Vegas.Piss me off. The state fing up things. Perhaps there will be proper advertising here, fuk the feds can't touch this. They need to route BP through another less statist country.
MasterG069
04-06-18, 18:26
Looks like the feds shut down the backpage for massage. Mojovillage.com May be a good place for Honolulu AMP to advertise. Mojovillage is big for Vegas.Already happening. Here's the Happiness post from less than an hour ago.
http://honolulu.mojovillage.com/adult-18/massage-按25705;/1-best-service-1-all-star-lineup-happiness_150971.
Mongers Rus
04-06-18, 18:54
http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/121/posts/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/
Expect a lot of ads here.
So maybe we should start of list on what our options are now.
Add to this please.
Massage.
1) craigslist therapeutic section.
2).
Professional Adult Services.
1).
Relationship Post (W4 M, MW4 MW, etc).
1) POF.
2) tinder.
3) eharmony.
Sho.
The Erotic Review no longer accessible in the United States.
BlkPatriot
04-06-18, 20:47
Seems like no new posts in Craigslist's Honolulu therapeutic section also. The last one was yesterday. Many girls will be hurting for business.
How safe is this site from being shutdown?I just checked there wasn't a link to the therapeutic section at all. Seems big brother wants all the control. What never gets talked about is they just puts many of these women in an even more desperate and vulnerable spot. Pimps are going to have a field day.
Looks like 'they' got RubMaps too. Sigh.
StickyWeed
04-07-18, 00:31
What happened to the therapeutic section in CL? Am I the only one who can't find it?
Ass Man808
04-07-18, 00:38
Looks like 'they' got RubMaps too. Sigh.Just checked rubmaps it's still up.
Ass Man808
04-07-18, 00:39
Looks like they might be down too.
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Seriously, this is your second post in 5 years? Get the fuck out of here
A2
They need to post in sm biz ad on CL. Pass the word.Would selling pussy be considered in the Pet section?
Honolulu808
04-07-18, 03:04
Looks like they got to the other review site also. The Erotic Review is not allowed viewing in the USA.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/FOSTA.asp
IAmAlmighty
04-07-18, 12:18
I was able to use commercial VPN service and regain access to ter. Just a thought.
Yup. See link.
http://backpage.comWhat's the rest of the story? Always follow the money.
RoadRally2
04-07-18, 20:54
What's the rest of the story? Always follow the money.Recently congress changed the laws about internet sites. Used to be that if you just hosted content, the court ruled that the site host shouldn't be responsible for keeping track of every single thing that users post and making sure it was all legal. Backpage and other sites were just hosts of all content providing a platform for users to post whatever they want. With the recent work by congress, sites are no longer legally immune from illegal activity on their sites posted by users. Sites are responsible for all activity on their sites. This is why craigslist removed the massage ads section.
BP went overboard banning text from their personals, and in the end what good did it do them? Do the thing or don't do the thing, but don't half do it and pretend you're not doing it at all.
It's just no pics of girls.
Recently congress changed the laws about internet sites. Used to be that if you just hosted content, the court ruled that the site host shouldn't be responsible for keeping track of every single thing that users post and making sure it was all legal. Backpage and other sites were just hosts of all content providing a platform for users to post whatever they want. With the recent work by congress, sites are no longer legally immune from illegal activity on their sites posted by users. Sites are responsible for all activity on their sites. This is why craigslist removed the massage ads section.Which is statist horseshit. It's like saying the gun dealer is responsible for what a guy does with his gun. Car dealer responsible for drunk drivers and such. Needs to be overturned by court ruling. Absolutely pisses me off. Need to fill congress with more Libertarians!
I was able to use commercial VPN service and regain access to ter. Just a thought.I wonder if you can access with a tor browser. Haven't attempted it yet.
Looks like a lot of places posting on mojovillage.com.
Rim.
Seriously, this is your second post in 5 years? Get the fuck out of here
A2What's with the emergency contact banner? You're always telling us this place is bulletproof...
I'm just a caveman, but IMHO nothing is untouchable even if only Santa Claus knows where the servers are.
Cosmic Kid
04-09-18, 21:20
What's with the emergency contact banner? You're always telling us this place is bulletproof...
I'm just a caveman, but IMHO nothing is untouchable even if only Santa Claus knows where the servers are.Same question here. I was wondering about this too! Coming from another "caveman", somehow having survived beyond his right time in the world, and into this foreign (to me) digital age.
What's with the emergency contact banner? You're always telling us this place is bulletproof...
I'm just a caveman, but IMHO nothing is untouchable even if only Santa Claus knows where the servers are.Yeah I thought A2 said the servers were untouchable because they're located out of the country 🤔.
Have a laugh guys. BTW, do they have AMPs on the big island? LOL.
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/hawaii-scuba-diver-hospitalized-after-his-penis-gets-stuck-in-giant-clam/
Have a laugh guys. BTW, do they have AMPs on the big island? LOL.
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/hawaii-scuba-diver-hospitalized-after-his-penis-gets-stuck-in-giant-clam/LMFAO. He said "It felt warm and cozy inside of the clam".
RoadRally2
04-10-18, 04:57
This site wasn't working for me for a while today. My heart sunk I thought usasg got nailed too! If this place goes down I don't know what I'd do. Be like a blind man with no glasses!
Cosmic Kid
04-10-18, 19:43
Check this out: On Youtube, "Honolulu Redlight Tour, Part 1". All about the history of prostitution in downtown during WWII. Just imagine having to wait in lines around the block to get P4 P, like those sailors back in the day, plus the ratio of men to women in town was 300 to 1!
Cosmic Kid
04-11-18, 03:13
This is from the "HOLLYWOOD" column, page 2, Midweek, April 11,2018:
"Harrison Ford and Dr. Phil McGraw say they've come up with a pill they claim is better than Viagra for putting lead in a man's pencil. When Ford recently appeared on Dr. Phil's talk show, he told men how they can be as virile as Indiana Jones. Their pill is Vrdhhigra, and they claim it's better than anything out there for erectile disfunction. Harrison says it's a blend of horny goat, Korean ginseng, potency wood (that sounds like they're kidding!) and other Chinese herbs, but it's their patented TRTT technology that makes these ingredients 185 times greater, and even GQ recommends it. ".
This is from the "HOLLYWOOD" column, page 2, Midweek, April 11,2018:
"Harrison Ford and Dr. Phil McGraw say they've come up with a pill they claim is better than Viagra for putting lead in a man's pencil. When Ford recently appeared on Dr. Phil's talk show, he told men how they can be as virile as Indiana Jones. Their pill is Vrdhhigra, and they claim it's better than anything out there for erectile disfunction. Harrison says it's a blend of horny goat, Korean ginseng, potency wood (that sounds like they're kidding!) and other Chinese herbs, but it's their patented TRTT technology that makes these ingredients 185 times greater, and even GQ recommends it. ".Not so sure. Fake news / Ad. If you search Harrison Ford, sex pills there are articles from 2016, Fox, Dr. Oz, about supposed pills he takes for ED with his young wife, Calista Lockhart. It got the blend of horny goat weed, MACA, etc. These look like ads masquerading as news articles.
This is from the "HOLLYWOOD" column, page 2, Midweek, April 11,2018:
"Harrison Ford and Dr. Phil McGraw say they've come up with a pill they claim is better than Viagra for putting lead in a man's pencil. When Ford recently appeared on Dr. Phil's talk show, he told men how they can be as virile as Indiana Jones. Their pill is Vrdhhigra, and they claim it's better than anything out there for erectile disfunction. Harrison says it's a blend of horny goat, Korean ginseng, potency wood (that sounds like they're kidding!) and other Chinese herbs, but it's their patented TRTT technology that makes these ingredients 185 times greater, and even GQ recommends it. ".Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find this "news" item on journalistically respected news sites, and there's no mention of Vrdhhigra on Dr. Phil's website and the GQ website. My best guess is that the names of Dr. Phil, Harrison Ford and GQ are being used without their permission to publicize this product.
Honolulu Yobo
05-23-18, 03:13
Tokyo Spa got raided this afternoon.
Tokyo Spa got raided this afternoon.Yup. Looks like it. Tried calling several times earlier this evening to make an appointment. No answer. This fucking sucks!
Captin Crunch
05-23-18, 03:46
Tokyo Spa got raided this afternoon.I hope you weren't there when it happened.
PanochaMan
05-23-18, 04:05
Tokyo Spa got raided this afternoon.Raided or just checking visas? Never see anything on the police website for today.
Raided or just checking visas? Never see anything on the police website for today.It was a raid. No mention of ICE being there. It was on Hawaii News Now. At least four LE with "POLICE" on the back of their shirts were carrying boxes of stuff from the AMP. The report also said no arrests were made.
PanochaMan
05-23-18, 04:18
It was a raid. No mention of ICE being there. It was on Hawaii News Now. At least four LE with "Police" on the back of their shirts. The report also said no arrests were made.Thank you sir. Hearing stories right now about happiness yesterday and pinetree just now. I don't know how valid any of this is. Been told by one girl at happiness that they never come by yesterday.
Thank you sir. Hearing stories right now about happiness yesterday and pinetree just now. I don't know how valid any of this is. Been told by one girl at happiness that they never come by yesterday.Yeah, they normally are not willing to talk about it--unless they know you well.
PanochaMan
05-23-18, 04:28
Yeah, they normally are not willing to talk about it--unless they know you well.The girls I talk with know me well and trust me.
The girls I talk with know me well and trust me.OK, then perhaps those stories you heard are just "stories."
PanochaMan
05-23-18, 04:33
OK, then perhaps those stories you heard are just "stories."Idk. Suppose we'll find out when it all comes out in the wash.
Ass Man808
05-23-18, 05:24
It was a raid. No mention of ICE being there. It was on Hawaii News Now. At least four LE with "POLICE" on the back of their shirts were carrying boxes of stuff from the AMP. The report also said no arrests were made.Got a link to the story by any chance? Thanks.
Got a link to the story by any chance? Thanks.Here you go: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/198303/livestream Story starts at
approx. -27:19.
Contrary to my earlier posting, ICE indeed was there (as well as HPD).
Honolulu808
05-23-18, 17:19
From my understanding ICE going in to check being most places but now the establishments are now aware of the work force law and now have girls filling out form I-9's. What I was told is the recent inspections had to do with IRS issues. Being the girls are of legal age and have working permits they are now checking to see if these workers are paying taxes. These inspections are not only at AMP's, they are aggressively looking at restaurants, bars, hotels, construction sites, farms amongst other working environments that has iffy working population where workers main income is tips has the possibility of ignoring the tax law.
I was also told that law enforcement is monitoring this site, especially now that it's back online to see who is popular and making a lot of money then will go to their place of work to check to see if indeed that are paying taxes.
There are several states nationwide that has tax laws for escort service, yes we can signup with the department of taxation in these states and fall under the escort tax category.
As for therapeutic massage establishments where the property owner has a license to do massage, they are inspecting to see if the masseurs, female or male has the paperwork and training to do massage.
Bottom line is they are going to places to do inspections and not "raids".
Ass Man808
05-23-18, 17:48
Here you go: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/198303/livestream Story starts at
approx. -27:19.
Contrary to my earlier posting, ICE indeed was there (as well as HPD).Thanks for the link.
Thanks for the link.http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38262519/police-raid-massage-parlor-in-honolulu-in-crackdown-of-human-trafficking
According to this report, it was a raid looking for evidence of trafficking.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38262519/police-raid-massage-parlor-in-honolulu-in-crackdown-of-human-trafficking
That when LE attacked AMP, they brought bunch of evidence like voice recording (no matter how reliable those sources are) forcing (or asking) girls to wake up at 4 am then have sex with a man hesitating her to get awake? Or asking girls to go out and get answer that mamasan would not let her out.
(It will be used as evidence of forcing sexual activity or confining human freedom of sleeping and going out).
Sounds there are some informer helping authority.
Nothing in the HPD arrest logs for Ward Ave for the last 2 days. If there were arrests, should have shown by now, either for trafficking or the mongers. This sounds like a ICE "raid" and not an police raid. I'm sure the girls are spooked and that's why no one is answering the phones.
Nothing in the HPD arrest logs for Ward Ave for the last 2 days. If there were arrests, should have shown by now, either for trafficking or the mongers. This sounds like a ICE "raid" and not an police raid. I'm sure the girls are spooked and that's why no one is answering the phones.The news report said "nobody" was arrested.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38262519/police-raid-massage-parlor-in-honolulu-in-crackdown-of-human-trafficking[/QUOTE]
KublaiKhan
05-24-18, 04:34
Nothing in the HPD arrest logs for Ward Ave for the last 2 days. If there were arrests, should have shown by now, either for trafficking or the mongers. This sounds like a ICE "raid" and not an police raid. I'm sure the girls are spooked and that's why no one is answering the phones.I have no first hand knowledge on these immigration / LEO AMP raids (investigations), however it stands to reason that if the Feds spent all those resources to deny massage businesses the ability to advertise online, they wouldn't stop there. The next phase is to harass these establishments from carrying on business as usual. The sex industry is resilient, but may be heading underground (making it less safe for both providers and patrons).
I've read a few comments where mongers have complained about being treated rudely by mamas. Maybe police harassment has something to do with it (just speculation on my part). Be courteous and understanding Brothers. These women are under stress. Just because we have our forum back, doesn't mean everything is hunky dorey now. Stay safe, and reward those who deserve our support.
BryanHawaii69
05-24-18, 04:46
That when LE attacked AMP, they brought bunch of evidence like voice recording (no matter how reliable those sources are) forcing (or asking) girls to wake up at 4 am then have sex with a man hesitating her to get awake? Or asking girls to go out and get answer that mamasan would not let her out.
(It will be used as evidence of forcing sexual activity or confining human freedom of sleeping and going out).
Sounds there are some informer helping authority.I wish I could understand your posts better. They sound like fun.
Idusixtyning
05-24-18, 15:25
That when LE attacked AMP, they brought bunch of evidence like voice recording (no matter how reliable those sources are) forcing (or asking) girls to wake up at 4 am then have sex with a man hesitating her to get awake? Or asking girls to go out and get answer that mamasan would not let her out.
(It will be used as evidence of forcing sexual activity or confining human freedom of sleeping and going out).
Sounds there are some informer helping authority.LE can try to get a witness or informer by finding some criminal charge against an AMP worker (ie. immigration, prostitution, tax violation, etc) and arrive at some sort of deal or plea bargain to drop or reduce the charges for assistance as a witness or informer to get the bigger fish. The squeeze play. I wouldn't doubt if the feds might even grant something like a green card for assistance in a federal case. The carrot and stick approach. Or it might even be just a very disgruntled AMP worker breaking the code of silence to get even and maybe get something out of it at the same time.
Cosmic Kid
05-24-18, 19:57
LE can try to get a witness or informer by finding some criminal charge against an AMP worker (ie. immigration, prostitution, tax violation, etc) and arrive at some sort of deal or plea bargain to drop or reduce the charges for assistance as a witness or informer to get the bigger fish. The squeeze play. I wouldn't doubt if the feds might even grant something like a green card for assistance in a federal case. The carrot and stick approach. Or it might even be just a very disgruntled AMP worker breaking the code of silence to get even and maybe get something out of it at the same time.I can't help thinking that as long as LE is getting payoffs / kickbacks from the AMPs, assuming this is the situation in Honolulu, then LE has a good reason NOT to push too hard for shutting down the parlors.
LE can try to get a witness or informer by finding some criminal charge against an AMP worker (ie. immigration, prostitution, tax violation, etc) and arrive at some sort of deal or plea bargain to drop or reduce the charges for assistance as a witness or informer to get the bigger fish. The squeeze play. I wouldn't doubt if the feds might even grant something like a green card for assistance in a federal case. The carrot and stick approach. Or it might even be just a very disgruntled AMP worker breaking the code of silence to get even and maybe get something out of it at the same time.I have heard that was the situation at Pink Orchid.
From my understanding ICE going in to check being most places but now the establishments are now aware of the work force law and now have girls filling out form I-9's. What I was told is the recent inspections had to do with IRS issues. Being the girls are of legal age and have working permits they are now checking to see if these workers are paying taxes. These inspections are not only at AMP's, they are aggressively looking at restaurants, bars, hotels, construction sites, farms amongst other working environments that has iffy working population where workers main income is tips has the possibility of ignoring the tax law.
I was also told that law enforcement is monitoring this site, especially now that it's back online to see who is popular and making a lot of money then will go to their place of work to check to see if indeed that are paying taxes.
There are several states nationwide that has tax laws for escort service, yes we can signup with the department of taxation in these states and fall under the escort tax category.
As for therapeutic massage establishments where the property owner has a license to do massage, they are inspecting to see if the masseurs, female or male has the paperwork and training to do massage.
Bottom line is they are going to places to do inspections and not "raids".Many know her. A legendary pro who was sent to federal prison. She was at first not caught of prostitution but drug trafficking investigation. All starts her mistake. Dealing with more than half million dollars, she didn't pay tax (rather get welfare) while buying luxury car and house in east coast with no downpayment or loan.
I know some girls just put cash into account.
Some put money into her foreign account. (Now s korean government share inidividual wealth info if he / she has american green card).
Trust me. One popular top girl was kicked out from american airport owing to that matter.
Or spending credit card a lot for luxurious life but too little tax report.
Many ridicule how lazy USA government is. But actually no.
As foreigner more and more I can understand why america with bunch of bs people and insanity has been world's number one king (or dictator whatever).
Your government is not lazy but just patient to catch bigget fish. They know they had better wait till they get evidence to drag even one penny from peoples wallets.
Remember even drug dealer who paid se tax seem to get more generous sentence.
Nothing in the HPD arrest logs for Ward Ave for the last 2 days. If there were arrests, should have shown by now, either for trafficking or the mongers. This sounds like a ICE "raid" and not an police raid. I'm sure the girls are spooked and that's why no one is answering the phones.That raid was kind of drastic for shortening time. This time it's personal. Oh no, he didn't!
I have heard that was the situation at Pink Orchid.I heard of a similar situation with the GoGo Spa shutdown.
Idusixtyning
05-27-18, 21:44
I have heard that was the situation at Pink Orchid.Same here.
I heard of a similar situation with the GoGo Spa shutdown.Same here.
I can't help thinking that as long as LE is getting payoffs / kickbacks from the AMPs, assuming this is the situation in Honolulu, then LE has a good reason NOT to push too hard for shutting down the parlors.I kind of wonder if things with HPD might change because of the changes at the top leadership and possible Federal scrutiny. Also seems the more recent LE actions and/or convictions of AMP owners/workers have been by the Feds. An example is the conviction of the Mayflower owner for bribery of a federal agent. I'm sure the Feds were curious in that she must have also done the same with local LE but nothing was ever reported or followed up on. The Feds could have squeezed her but I suppose they left it alone or she just accepted the charge. And on the other hand, if I were a vice HPD officer considering a working relationship with an AMP, I'd be afraid that an AMP owner or worker might report and testify against me as part of a deal if they get charged with a crime by the Feds.
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Looks like they're not traveling with the wives.
After the meeting they go the Singapore AMP.
And get a rim job.
Then on the way back Trump and stop over and pardon.
Ma ma Jun for one of her fabulous BJ in the parking lot.
Out side of chm.
Trump and Kim meeting in Singapore
Looks like they're not traveling with the wives.
After the meeting they should go to the Singapore AMP
And get a rim job.
Then on the way back Trump should stop over and pardon
Ma ma Jun for one of her fabulous BJ in the parking lot
out side of chm
My atf mama
BTW.
The north and the south should work it out.
China 🇨127475;Russia and USA should Stay out of it.
Immo.
Ma ma Jun. Be the mediator.
In the document trump agrees to set up a meeting with chairman
Kim and stormy Danials upon a complete denuclearization
When Kim visits the USA
BTW.
The north and the south should work it out.
China 🇨127475;Russia and USA should Stay out of it.
Immo.
Ma ma Jun. Be the mediator.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38400507/advocate-federal-crackdown-on-human-trafficking-website-is-hurting-sex-workers
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38400507/advocate-federal-crackdown-on-human-trafficking-website-is-hurting-sex-workersWhen BP shut down and the review sites (including this one) went offline, some of the more tech-literate girls and guys migrated to a social media network that's like a decentralized Twitter.
Some of the stories were pretty fucking grim. Everything about SESTA and FOSTA is such BS, and I completely do believe it'll force some girls to work for a pimp.
Deep Avenger
06-13-18, 13:17
Uncle Sam is the BIGGEST gangster in the whole wide world. If he don't get a cut in what you make then your ass is grass.
Best example: Al Capone, indicted for tax evasion.
The candy stores and girls in it make too damn money and Uncle Sam ain't getting no kick back.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38400507/advocate-federal-crackdown-on-human-trafficking-website-is-hurting-sex-workers
When BP shut down and the review sites (including this one) went offline, some of the more tech-literate girls and guys migrated to a social media network that's like a decentralized Twitter.
Some of the stories were pretty fucking grim. Everything about SESTA and FOSTA is such BS, and I completely do believe it'll force some girls to work for a pimp.The tech savvy were just adapting to change as any business must do to survive. All it took was a couple of Google searches to find alternatives to BP. Slow hicup to recover. Twitter became more used, switter, I believe is what you were referring to. Shoot I don't use any Twitter, but made a quick profile on many sites to get the lowdown. Still had plenty of info out there, just not a good review site worthy to replace this one 😊. I'm very glad it's returned to normal.
"Disrobing in public" and having sex "beneath a statue of the Virgin Mary" in a "sacred area" of Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church, which "is next door to police headquarters"?
The following news report from New Jersey is hilarious, even though the charged fornicators may ultimately be punished with Eternal Damnation in Hell.
A homeless woman accused of having sex with a man beneath a statue of the Virgin Mary at a Roman Catholic church in New Jersey has pleaded not guilty to lewdness and other charges.
Noelle SXXXX entered the pleas Tuesday in Seaside Heights Municipal Court.
Authorities say the 48-year-old SXXXX and 43-year-old Anthony GXXXXXX were found May 22 in "a sacred area" on the grounds of Our Lady of Perpetual Help, which is next door to police headquarters.
SXXXX told the Asbury Park Press that she and GXXXXXX were homeless and staying behind the church. She said "the act of lewdness wasn't happening."
A public defender was appointed Tuesday to represent SXXXX.
GXXXXXX was charged with lewdness, disrobing in public and other offenses. It was unknown whether he has an attorney.
By the way, fellow mongers, what are some of the most unusual locations in which you have had sexual activity with a provider?
Four of mine are: (1) on the ground among the gravestones in a cemetery late at night; (2) inside a restroom stall in a building where I was employed at the time; (3) on a platform above the water and under the side of a bridge on Nimitz Highway; and (4) at the bottom of a subterranean outdoor stairway near Bishop Street.
Those all occurred during my younger years, when I wasn't as dignified and respectable as I am now (LOL).
Cosmic Kid
06-21-18, 18:21
"Disrobing in public" and having sex "beneath a statue of the Virgin Mary" in a "sacred area" of Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church, which "is next door to police headquarters"?
The following news report from New Jersey is hilarious, even though the charged fornicators may ultimately be punished with Eternal Damnation in Hell.
[I]A homeless woman accused of having sex with a man beneath a statue of the Virgin Mary at a Roman Catholic church in New Jersey has pleaded not guilty to lewdness and other charges.
Noelle SXXXX entered the pleas Tuesday in Seaside Heights Municipal Court.
Authorities say the 48-year-old SXXXX and 43-year-old Anthony GXXXXXX were found May 22 in "a sacred area" on the grounds of Our Lady of Perpetual Help, which is next door to police headquarters..Hey Redneck,
I see how it was a natural segue for you to move from the article you quoted to listing some of your own unusual locations for sex. However, since you are also requesting other mongers describe their unusual sex location experiences, perhaps this topic should more logically be presented in the "General" thread instead of "News and Media Reports"? Heck, if there was enough interest and forthcoming contributions, "Unusual Locations" could almost be the topic for a new thread!
Punanilicr
06-21-18, 21:50
By the way, fellow mongers, what are some of the most unusual locations in which you have had sexual activity with a provider?
.Reminds me of a similar infamous question on the old Newlywed game. If you remember the young brides answer, reply here.
As for mine, in the middle of a park / baseball field would be the top spot. Starry night, full moon, sprinklers come on as we're getting busy. Talk about being hosed down like a dog.
Reminds me of a similar infamous question on the old Newlywed game. If you remember the young brides answer, reply here.
As for mine, in the middle of a park / baseball field would be the top spot. Starry night, full moon, sprinklers come on as we're getting busy. Talk about being hosed down like a dog.Bob Eubanks' question: Girls, tell me where specifically is the weirdest place that you personally, girls, have ever gotten the urge to make whoopee?
The wife Olga's answer: Um, in the ass.
The panelists, the audience, and Bob Eubanks then erupt in laughter.
I see how it was a natural segue for you to move from the article you quoted to listing some of your own unusual locations for sex. However, since you are also requesting other mongers describe their unusual sex location experiences, perhaps this topic should more logically be presented in the "General" thread instead of "News and Media Reports"? Heck, if there was enough interest and forthcoming contributions, "Unusual Locations" could almost be the topic for a new thread!Yup, guys are free to post those experiences in whatever other thread they think is appropriate. If like in my four examples the providers were downtown streetwalkers, the Downtown or Streetwalker threads might be good.
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Seriously? Are you fucking crazy?
A2
Bob Eubanks' question: Girls, tell me where specifically is the weirdest place that you personally, girls, have ever gotten the urge to make whoopee?
The wife Olga's answer: Um, in the ass.
The panelists, the audience, and Bob Eubanks then erupt in laughter.
Just made me think of that scene from Mallrats.
Guy 1: I'm going to screw her in a very uncomfortable place.
Guy 2: What, like the back seat of a Volkswagen?
DragonOfEchigo
06-27-18, 18:54
Bob Eubanks' question: Girls, tell me where specifically is the weirdest place that you personally, girls, have ever gotten the urge to make whoopee?
The wife Olga's answer: Um, in the ass.
The panelists, the audience, and Bob Eubanks then erupt in laughter.Yes. Olga's a naughty girl. LOL. She just told everyone that she likes it in the ass. Fucking hilarious!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XM5hbS7GlU
What had happened behind kind mamas' smile.
Law is strict. Many smoke weed without license and cops see and pass.
But once you are caught, you can not insist all others do so I must be innocent.
I really want to write more and more but will not for privacy issue and not to break you naive guys fantasy.
Just remember law is often very different from sense and all others do doesn't mean doing it is legal.
(I am not talking about prostitution now. I mean behind the red door who knows all kinds of nasty illegal thing but prostitution was going on and on?
RichardHard808
06-30-18, 04:51
Hopefully this is the only place. Maybe they flexing cause rimpac is in town.
Hawaii news now reported Roses got raided 11 am today. http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38546098/honolulu-police-raid-makiki-massage-parlor.
Just for your information, in order to renew your driver's license, you must show documents that prove you are here legally.
Effective March 5, 2012, anyone applying for an original or renewal of their Hawaii driver's license or permit must show proof of legal presence in the USA Legal presence means that a person is either a USA Citizen or is legally authorized to be in the United States.I need to confirm with my attorney, but I think if they get convicted of a crime of moral turpitude a green card holder (LPR) can still be deported. Just my thoughts, but something I pass align to my favorites.
LoseMoney23
07-08-18, 19:15
We can't let the DUI cases plea bargain for a lesser charge. Then start working on the weekends till you folks catch up!!
Hot Pocket
07-09-18, 02:05
We can't let the DUI cases plea bargain for a lesser charge. Then start working on the weekends till you folks catch up!!What's a lesser charge to a DUI?
LoseMoney23
07-09-18, 17:01
What's a lesser charge to a DUI?Probably keep driving till you get 10 more or kill somebody, IDK.
What's a lesser charge to a DUI?Lesser charge than DUI. Negligent driving.
I thought there would be a post or two but then the list makers started up.
Have you guys not been paying attention to the news?
A2
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38602017/firefighter-charged-for-allegedly-lying-to-grand-jury-about-affair-with-ex-police-chiefs-wife
Did the husband tell the firefighter? Dude, I have to. But you?
LoseMoney23
07-10-18, 03:56
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38602017/firefighter-charged-for-allegedly-lying-to-grand-jury-about-affair-with-ex-police-chiefs-wife
Did the husband tell the firefighter? Dude, I have to. But you?Katherine just made the NOOSE a little tighter
Michael Green commented on the Kealoha's "closeness" in public. He said it was textbook instructions for defendants to hold hands while in public. Then once in a while, look at each other and smile. Not sure how the fireman and KK hooked up. Unless he was her boy toy.
Michael Green commented on the Kealoha's "closeness" in public. He said it was textbook instructions for defendants to hold hands while in public. Then once in a while, look at each other and smile. Not sure how the fireman and KK hooked up. Unless he was her boy toy.I believe HNN was also saying KK was giving money to the firefighter.
To be fair, I'd have to be paid to bang KK to. She looks like the kind of person who's always asking to speak to the manager.
"We let someone get naked and have every other part of their body touched and rubbed by a massage therapist. Hell, we let proctologists spend their day fingering men and sticking things up their anus. So if someone wants to yank a guy's crank, I say let 'them.
We should all submit testimony like this to Honolulu Hale.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjkqyx/man-pleads-his-case-for-legal-genital-massages-city-council-lawrence-kansas-vgtrn
LoseMoney23
07-10-18, 16:28
I believe HNN was also saying KK was giving money to the firefighter.
To be fair, I'd have to be paid to bang KK to. She looks like the kind of person who's always asking to speak to the manager.Keith Kaneshiro has no comments for now till given the appropriate time to speak.
Hot Pocket
07-11-18, 04:29
Keith Kaneshiro has no comments for now till given the appropriate time to speak.I don't really care what Keith is going to do because I don't think he will be around when his term comes up again. What I'd be more interested in knowing is what his potential successor, the first deputy prosecuting attorney, position is on things that Keith has focused on like gambling and prostitution.
DragonOfEchigo
07-13-18, 14:13
I believe HNN was also saying KK was giving money to the firefighter.
To be fair, I'd have to be paid to bang KK to. She looks like the kind of person who's always asking to speak to the manager.No shit. Fucking gross! I would need a large sum of $$ in a brown paper bag! The bag would help. But, you would still have to deal with that body. Yikes! LOL.
No shit. Fucking gross! I would need a large sum of $$ in a brown paper bag! The bag would help. But, you would still have to deal with that body. Yikes! LOL.No wonder the Former Chief couldn't walk a straight line, look what he had to deal with at home.
RemingtonSteel
07-13-18, 16:52
Michael Green commented on the Kealoha's "closeness" in public. He said it was textbook instructions for defendants to hold hands while in public. Then once in a while, look at each other and smile. Not sure how the fireman and KK hooked up. Unless he was her boy toy.I suspect that now the affair between KK and that firefighter has gone public, Louis Kealoha may turn on his wife and seek a plea deal. Who really cares? All involved are corrupt and reflect what is bad about our state. Public corruption runs deep around here.
Keith Kaneshiro has no comments for now till given the appropriate time to speak.I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing that comes up on the news is that Kat Kealoha was having an affair with her boss Kaneshiro too. LOL.
Bazinga808
07-14-18, 07:01
I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing that comes up on the news is that Kat Kealoha was having an affair with her boss Kaneshiro too. LOL.That would explain the late nights at the office. She's under Kaneshiro's desk trying to get that nut. LOL.
That would explain the late nights at the office. She's under Kaneshiro's desk trying to get that nut. LOL.Leave me out of this, LOL.
I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing that comes up on the news is that Kat Kealoha was having an affair with her boss Kaneshiro too. LOL.What a **** lmao.
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