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Puinsai808
01-01-13, 16:14
I meet lotsa guys, but I only have feelings for you, you make me feel comftoble.Hehehe, I've had one of recent the AMP all-stars say this to me. She used to use her own tip to pay the MMS and make me stay 2 or 3 hours. We used to go out on dates, picnics, karaoke and all nighters at my house but never asked me to pay her. She also used to buy me all kinds of gifts and never asked for anything in return. She was always a real sweetheart was one of the prettiest natural beauties I've had too. In case you are wondering, I never reviewed her.
The thing is, I cannot have feelings for a woman who is a hoe. I real man can't have another dude fucking HIS woman unless it's a fetish. It made me very uncomfortable to hear her say ILU when I didn't feel the same.
Back to the topic: But for the Koreans, it's all good. There are recent posts on USASG about the two Korean realtors (one a Korean gold medal ice speed skater) who were previously hoes. If another Korean asked them, they would just admit working at an AMP or KB like working at a McDonalds or Zippys. My current GF is hapa Korean and she has said that there is no shame in the culture for women who had previously worked at KBs or AMPs. The older Korean ladies frequently tell her to go work now at KB or AMP,"Honey. Don't waste your beauty while you have it. Go work and make plenty money now while you are young & beautiful."
The mind of a Korean working girl. Pu
Hilifter37
01-01-13, 18:32
Reading some of you bros' reports on freebies, dating hoes and take out experiences makes me so green with envy and jealousy. Most AMP girls only just tolerate me, but sometimes when they had enough of my very mechanical, porn star want to be, pumping machine style of fucking, they tell me to get a girlfriend and forget coming to AMPs. That used to not get to me, but when multiple girls tell me this, it causes me to wonder if I should do something different?
Be interesting to get inside the minds of these girls. Like that Mel Gibson movie. Like how they view each customer. As an actual person or just seeing money? I'm also sure that there is an addiction thing to getting so much money so quickly by working as a provider. The money is just too easy to accumulate. One funny thing in the past was that a provider wanted to give me the money to check out another provider to find out how that provider was like.IMO, they see most customers as ATM because most of the customers that they do see, they're not attracted to them or will like them at a personal level. Plus, they're not sure whether they can trust the men to. So, by default, they look at their customers as mainly an ATM. Their primary focus is on the money and to make as much money while they still can. Focus on taking care of themselves and their own personal needs first. They didn't go into this business primarily looking to hook up and fall in love with a man or be counseling / comforting men's personal issues.
These women working in this business eventually get that player mentality going on in them. It is the mentality that they can go through numerous customers like a number. Next! They're not focused on finding that long term true love because their clients / customers are like temporary BFs that are expendable. The more men that come see them, tip them extra, buy them gifts etc, it just reinforces that player mentality even more due to the options that they have. So, trying to hookup and be serious with them for love is like a man trying to find love with a female player who has multiple BFs.
Puinsai808
01-01-13, 21:45
These women working in this business eventually get that player mentality going on in them. It is the mentality that they can go through numerous customers like a number. Next! They're not focused on finding that long term true love because their clients / customers are like temporary BFs that are expendable. The more men that come see them, tip them extra, buy them gifts etc, it just reinforces that player mentality even more due to the options that they have. So, trying to hookup and be serious with them for love is like a man trying to find love with a female player who has multiple BFs.Bruddah Uki, Can't say it any better than that. Pu
Well. American girls go into the porn industry and get fucked in the ass by 9 guys that goes all over the Internet (no condoms for sure). I bet her Dad and brothers love that. She knows she is doing this so men will jerk off to insanity behind their work computer and get fired. The Korean girl works descreetly in a massage palor 24/7 letting lonely men make love to her. Some of the Korean girls provide a level of romance that would rival a honeymoon. Also, lets not forget the great Mamasan who runs these places with good looking young women, super clean, and very safe.
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Puinsai808
01-01-13, 22:13
Bruddah Uki,
I know you wrote this a few weeks back. Just had to say this is a great insight to not only the Korean providers mind but pretty much any providers mind. I heard many of these things from a former provider / mamasan. She would never think she was like one of "them" but this is exactly how she thought and what she would say & do. She did it with an arrogance that she pissed off & offended most of the USASG regulars. This post is right on the mark for these lifers to the game. It can capture any innocent person and warp there reality to where they become this way. Pu.
Sounds cruel and harsh that BGs can only think about themselves huh? But, you know what? They being cautious that's why. I'm pretty sure alot of BGs have been taken advantage of in the past. Therefore, they try not to easily fall for someone. I know what a LVB may be thinking: "Yah but. I'm not like that though, I'm not a player and I would never hurt her" She doesn't know that for sure and can really count on it considering how many times other guys have played her. She felt the same way with other guys that she had relationship with. Therefore, she cannot take the chance. That's why, guys need to think of themselves first to. Don't invest too much time and money in a BG. They will not live up to what you may expect or want to expect out of them. They cannot backup what they say and hold true to their word. Most cases anyway. That's why, these women can just ditch a guy and leave him hanging. Then he's like: "Wow! What happened? I thought we had something good between us. Why'd she do that? I did soo much for her to!" Sound familiar? BGs won't come to the rescue when you are in dire need of help. Nope. Why would they care? They only make like they do care because there's something in it for them. If they did care, they wouldn't lie or try and hound you for drinks in the first place. Heh, if they find someone else, they don't give a crap and don't need you anymore. Common sense. Heh, they can't argue that they really do care and have shown proof of it on numerous occasions without them having some benefit or personal gain. Have they? Make her prove her worthiness to you. She has to pass your test (s) not you pass her test (s) People who do care, they don't expect something in return. You may think she sweet, nice, cute, she's different, you feel pity and don't want to be rude etc etc because she's a female yah? The fact that the BG is a female (especially the one you're attracted to) , she's excused. That's all it takes. Female, pretty face, she's sweet, she's excused. They like to side with her and defend her, to win her heart. But, it's not like she has really proven herself worthy. When it comes to these BGs, cannot be too focused on what they telling you is the truth or a lie. I think alot of guys get caught up in this. They get emotionally bothered if they feel that what a BG is saying is the truth or a lie. Fuckem, no need. You're getting to focused on the BG that's why. Whatever a BG may tell you, take it with a grain of salt and expect that these KBGs will lie. Assume and expect that a lie will come up. Heh, women generally like to keep secrets. You shouldn't be shocked or surprised if they did lie. BGs and even civilian women they like to second guess and assume alot of things.
"Should I tell him I'm an AMP / BG? Naw not yet. If I tell him now, he wouldn't want to talk to me again. I'll just wait for the right time to tell him"
"No way I want to sit with him! Aww. Shit! Mama wants me to sit with him. I'll just hound him for so many drinks that he'll get discouraged"
"Hehe, this guy thinks he can afford me? Let me see. Buy me another one? Another one? Another one? No? Hehe, just what I thought! You can't afford me hehe"
"I always see this guy at the bar. Geez, he must be really desperate and needy for a female! He must be the loner type"
"Look at this guy, what a bum! Wait, oh my gosh, he drives that car? Wow! I guess he's not a bum after all"
"Look at these young guys. They probably here to just look and not buy any drinks. Cheap bastards! Oh wait, they buying those BGs drinks. I'm shocked! They don't look like they would spend money"
"Let me buy this guy a beer, that way, he don't feel like I'm abusing him on the drinks. Hehe, then he won't feel too bad on buying me another $20 drink in return"
"When is he going to buy me another drink? My glass been empty for so many minutes already. I'll just sip the empty glass and crunch on the ice. Then, he'll get the hint that I want another drink"
"What's taking him so long? I can't stand sitting with this Sukebe guy trying to get touchy touchy with me. Gross! Sheesh! There he is. Well it's about time my regular showed up!"
"I don't like sitting with this guy. Oh Shit, my regular just came in. I'll just ditch this guy by excusing myself to go to the restroom hehe"
"Damn it's slow right now. Hmm. Who can I text? Let's see. Nah, no sense text this guy, he's not going to come down and visit me. Hmm. I know, this guy probably would. Yes! He's coming down! Woohoo! Cha-ching!"
"Oh my goodness (rolling her eyes) this guy is so full of himself. He think he all that! He's obviously a player! Cocky bastard"
"I'll just say yes for now to not make him feel bad. Hopefully, he'll forget the whole thing. Shit, Dammit! He's texting me to confirm, hmm. Need to think of something quick! Fuckit! I'll just not reply or answer"
"I think I can get this guy to get me 1 more drink. Oh oh, looks like he's hesitating and thinking about it. Let me smile and tease him somemore to make his decision easier. Bingo! I got you! Gosh, you're easy!"
"If this guy thinks he can get a piece of me, hell no! I'm not having him touch me! I don't care how much $ he offers!"
"Who's this guy who wants me to sit with him? Oh gosh, another LVB. This one should be easy. 10 drinks in 1 hour no problem. Can I get another one? No? WTF? Did I just hear him say no? This Fucker must have been reading the forum!"
Those things mentioned above, alot of guys don't really think about it. It doesn't cross their minds that BGs think like that. These women think and assume alot of things in their heads. BGs make up lies just to make conversations and cover up things they rather you not know. They assume you are bad until you prove that you're not. Problem is, guys really overdo it on the niceness that the women see right through them. Women cannot believe and find it hard to believe that a guy is perfect and flawless. They know that's not realistic. He's too good to be true. A BG may giggle and laugh but, inside of her she thinks: "Geez, this guy is lame!" It's funny, to see BGs just do their fake smile / laugh when she's sitting with a customer. She laughs along but, she doesn't find it funny. She just does it since he buying her drinks and make like she's enjoying his company. In fact, she probably wants to just getup and leave. If you're caught up on what she saying is either true or not, then you're not really enjoying yourself in a KB. You rely on a BG to have fun in a KB. You're too focus on what she's saying than enjoying yourself. BG sits by you talking to you after you buy her drinks and you're like: "She better not be fucking lieing to me!" You think like this because you're being honest with her and you expect her to be fair and honest in return. Especially, when you buying her drinks. You get bothered if you sense she's playing mind games with you. You letting your emotions get to you simply by what a BG says or does. BGs are predicting you trying to read and figure out the type of guy that you are. If you react emotionally, to her she's like: "Oh ok, he's one of those sensitive types" She figures you out, labels you and then places you among the sensitive category.
Guys outlook: "BGs are innocent until proven guilty"
That's why alot of guys be all nice, take care them, put BGs on the pedestal. They try so hard to show that they're a nice guy. Some guys take a longer time to realize that they're being used and taken advantage of. Heh, they second guess themselves that's why."I wonder if she fooling around? Nah, cannot be. I known her too long and done so much for her, she wouldn't do that to me. She probably out with her other BG friends" Then, he brushes it off. It takes alot until he finally wakes up and realizes it.
BGs outlook: "Guys are guilty until proven innocent"
BGs assume already that you're going to be a typical LVB, Sukebe guy, playboy etc etc. Alot of them are anyways so, they cannot help but assume (label) them to be that. Most of the guys they comes across, their assumptions of them is correct. That's why women, especially the hotter ones have the pre-Madonna mentality. They assume you're going to be another perverted guy drooling and gawking over her. Sure enough, in most cases, they're right. When and if you do prove them wrong, she's like: "Oh, I guess this guy is not the typical LVB that I originally thought he was"
I think the guys who are new to the bar and some guys that are not new, talk too formal with these BGs like they on a first date with them. What do most guys typically do on first dates? Be at their best behavior. They be all prim and proper trying to make a good impression on them. Especially, with the BGs that they are interested in. They hold back on alot of things. I guess everyone's different. Some guys are not that open to talk about anything in general with a BG due to that fear of what the BG may think of him. Also, some guys meaning of fun is looking forward to seeing that particular BG in the bar. It's like another dinner date with her but, its a drinkie date at the bar. Guys who are carefree and nonchalant are not concerned about what a BG may think of him. Also, they don't focus on that 1 particular BG in order to have fun. He views BGs in a bar as but a number. He's too busy enjoying himself and having fun with a number of BGs that it really doesn't cross his mind. He doesn't give a crap what she or other BG may think of him. His main agenda is to just have fun period. Not trying to impress BGs or other people. Look at BGs, they just go through each guy like a number. They have the Play Him mentality. Bottom line, all guys that go hostess bars should be aware that BGs will think, assume and do things like this. A person may not think so but, don't be so surprised if it does happen.
Member #4374
01-01-13, 23:18
I think every time a KBG calls a customer "nice" its the same thing as calling him "stupid". U so nice = U so stupid."I miss U honey, U so nice"."U such a nice guy". Etc, etc.
IMO, they see most customers as ATM because most of the customers that they do see, they're not attracted to them or will like them at a personal level. Plus, they're not sure whether they can trust the men to. So, by default, they look at their customers as mainly an ATM. Their primary focus is on the money and to make as much money while they still can. Focus on taking care of themselves and their own personal needs first. They didn't go into this business primarily looking to hook up and fall in love with a man or be counseling / comforting men's personal issues.
These women working in this business eventually get that player mentality going on in them. It is the mentality that they can go through numerous customers like a number. Next! They're not focused on finding that long term true love because their clients / customers are like temporary BFs that are expendable. The more men that come see them, tip them extra, buy them gifts etc, it just reinforces that player mentality even more due to the options that they have. So, trying to hookup and be serious with them for love is like a man trying to find love with a female player who has multiple BFs.Man, Uki Eater, you have obviously done serious advanced studies on the mind of the Korean working girl. Thanks for the insights. You are, of course, correct. They can be mercenary, God knows. But then, how could anyone who sells her pussy three, four, or ten times a night to strangers, not be. It's a matter of self defense or delusion. A few of these ladies are, however, consummate actors and, if your defenses are not impenetrable, the love-starved monger is a pigeon waiting to be plucked. These women can be so hot. Is the solution to move to Korea and find a civilian? LOL. In my situation, Angie / Mimi / Candy has been a popular provider wherever she has worked. In NC where I met her, the Charlotte forum has many laudatory posts, as does the Honolulu forum. She gives a real good rub, which is unusual, and she really does have a very endearing personality. She is good at her job. Even after all the drama she put me through, I still regard her as basically a good and decent person, with a few pronounced flaws (third grade education and difficulty telling the truth) , and I sincerely miss her. Now that's scary power. It won't happen again.
Man, Uki Eater, you have obviously done serious advanced studies on the mind of the Korean working girl. Thanks for the insights. You are, of course, correct. They can be mercenary, God knows. But then, how could anyone who sells her pussy three, four, or ten times a night to strangers, not be. It's a matter of self defense or delusion. A few of these ladies are, however, consummate actors and, if your defenses are not impenetrable, the love-starved monger is a pigeon waiting to be plucked. These women can be so hot. Is the solution to move to Korea and find a civilian? .That's why he is also known as ProFuksHer KaraUki, LOL.
IMO, they see most customers as ATM because most of the customers that they do see, they're not attracted to them or will like them at a personal level. Plus, they're not sure whether they can trust the men to. So, by default, they look at their customers as mainly an ATM. Their primary focus is on the money and to make as much money while they still can. Focus on taking care of themselves and their own personal needs first. They didn't go into this business primarily looking to hook up and fall in love with a man or be counseling / comforting men's personal issues.
These women working in this business eventually get that player mentality going on in them. It is the mentality that they can go through numerous customers like a number. Next! They're not focused on finding that long term true love because their clients / customers are like temporary BFs that are expendable. The more men that come see them, tip them extra, buy them gifts etc, it just reinforces that player mentality even more due to the options that they have. So, trying to hookup and be serious with them for love is like a man trying to find love with a female player who has multiple BFs.Sounds right to me. They get money snd sonetimes they can get good sex. The rest of it is acting on their part whether they are nice girls or really bitches, they cannot help it if they work this type of job. And probly the reason I rarely go anymore cause I know its jist there job whether they like my dick or not and I can catch my own woman. And the biggest reason is I like to stack my own bank accounts not someone elses.
Niner Whiner
01-04-13, 04:57
I think every time a KBG calls a customer "nice" its the same thing as calling him "stupid". U so nice = U so stupid."I miss U honey, U so nice"."U such a nice guy". Etc, etc.Korean society is all about respect.
Being nice is a sign of weakness.
These KBGs know that the nice guys are lonely and / or desperate and they take advantage.
Thus better to be disliked but respected, than to be liked and nice.
Korean society is all about respect.
Being nice is a sign of weakness.
These KBGs know that the nice guys are lonely and / or desperate and they take advantage.
Thus better to be disliked but respected, than to be liked and nice.I would say that is applicable anywhere. But there are women that appreciate men being nice, few and far between though. Like the old saying goes: "No good deed goes unpunished"
I am going to Japan next month and got this off a Japanese girl dating site. I am really excited about the trip now and hope to meet Japanese girls at AMPs from now on! Playboy54!
Scott: I was a loving, caring, devoted husband of four years. I gave my virginity to my beautiful Korean wife named Yun-Ji &50672; &51648; . One day my Korean wife said we would need to start using condoms to be safe because she read it in Women's magazine. I divorced her the next day and we had no children. She now lives alone in a small apartment with two cats. Yun-Ji calls often asking me to please take her back. I say I can't because once you said we need to make love with a condom, I fell out of love with you. Her mother refuses to talk to her to this day and her father committed suicide. I am now happily married to a gorgeous Japanese woman named AIMI (&24859; &32654. And we have two beautiful daughters. I asked how come she never asked me to use a condom. She said because she read a story on the Internet about a very foolish Korean woman.
I would say that is applicable anywhere. But there are women that appreciate men being nice, few and far between though. Like the old saying goes: "No good deed goes unpunished"Funny how women are attracted to the "bad boys" but when they get screwed over time and time again, they complain about not being able to find a "nice guy" or "all guys are the same".
Funny how women are attracted to the "bad boys" but when they get screwed over time and time again, they complain about not being able to find a "nice guy" or "all guys are the same".It's like if they're attracted to the bad boys, it can reach a point that it starts to turn them off if they're too bad and don't show enough niceness. Then, they need comforting from nice guys but in time, get bored of the nice guys because they're too nice. Then, eventually goes back to the bad boys because they miss the excitement by the bad boys.
Incogfilipino
01-05-13, 23:36
Doesn't make me go "hmmm" at all. The simple explanation is that women are just bat shit crazy. After you realize that, it all starts making sense.
Korean society is all about respect.
Being nice is a sign of weakness.
These KBGs know that the nice guys are lonely and / or desperate and they take advantage.
Thus better to be disliked but respected, than to be liked and nice.How come the main actress in those Korean tv dramas end up with the nice guy?
How come the main actress in those Korean tv dramas end up with the nice guy?It's all about the perception one puts out for others to see. In Korea, a janitor will leave his / her home in the morning in a business suit. When he / she arrives at the workplace, they'll change into coveralls and perform their janitorial duties. Before they leaves work, they'll again change into the suit and return home. There are a lot of things that Korean people do to deceive others. It used to be where anyone with darker skin was looked down upon. The figured that all the darker Koreans would be farmers who worked in the sun all day. That perception is slowly changing as many women are tanning. That is one strange culture.
Member #4374
01-10-13, 17:59
Non-Korean hoes usually stink: their breath and / or their ass. Korean hoes 99% of the time, smell sweet like they just came out of the ocean. I'm done with these other brands of stank hoes from now. If she ain't Korean then I'm leavin'.
Sounds right to me. They get money snd sonetimes they can get good sex. The rest of it is acting on their part whether they are nice girls or really bitches, they cannot help it if they work this type of job. And probly the reason I rarely go anymore cause I know its jist there job whether they like my dick or not and I can catch my own woman. And the biggest reason is I like to stack my own bank accounts not someone elses.You are so right. Girl use to tell me I want to take all their $. I had kbg never could handle because always have to go appointment.
Bruddah Uki,
I know you wrote this a few weeks back. Just had to say this is a great insight to not only the Korean providers mind but pretty much any providers mind. I heard many of these things from a former provider / mamasan. She would never think she was like one of "them" but this is exactly how she thought and what she would say & do. She did it with an arrogance that she pissed off & offended most of the USASG regulars. This post is right on the mark for these lifers to the game. It can capture any innocent person and warp there reality to where they become this way. Pu.What you wrote was perfect, interesting, we are numbers to bg, they are best sales people, how many lies they must say every day.
Too bad, we cannot change the way bg think. Maybe we should go on strike then bg might appreciate us guys more. I will never understand how they can go out with so many guys & only think about how much she has. I guess like bg say he has to show me love through his wallet.
When you guys do have KBG yobo, how you guys handle & think about your situation?
When you guys do have KBG yobo, how you guys handle & think about your situation?Same way you would any open relationship- with alot of jealousy. LOL
When you guys do have KBG yobo, how you guys handle & think about your situation?You have to have thick skin and remember who she goes home with every night. Jealousy is always there and is a big strain on the relationship if you let it. I've only been in relationships with AMP girls because I cannot stand drunks. You have to make sure you are a yobo and not just another customer. If she is really yours then she won't hide anything. At first she was reluctant to show me her phone, contacts and text because she said it would drive me crazy. After awhile tough she let me see everything and it was an eye opener! She plays like over 2 dozen guys all at once making each of them feel like they are special to her. I know, CRAZY!
On the other hand, I don't look at these relationships as LONG term, more like a get it while you can and get the most of what you can deal. You got to play them a little too. It is fun and adventurous and makes you feel,"yeah I get for free what other guys pay a lot for" but that is about it. LOL Let me tell you that majority of the hotter KBG and AMP girls have SO or BF either here or back home. They will tell you "No, of course not!" But being in this circle I've either seen them with or my SO would make reference about them when they talk story to each other.
Be safe and monger wisely!
Hilifter37
03-12-13, 01:41
She plays like over 2 dozen guys all at once making each of them feel like they are special to her. I know, CRAZY!
On the other hand, I don't look at these relationships as LONG term, more like a get it while you can and get the most of what you can deal. You got to play them a little too. It is fun and adventurous and makes you feel,"yeah I get for free what other guys pay a lot for" but that is about it.How do I get an AMP girl to make me feel special and play me? Do you have to be good looking and / or rich. I have not gotten even a nibble like being asked to buy them lunch or anything like that, to indicate any interest from them. I always dress down for AMP visits, should I dress up? Should I bring gifts like food and stuff when I go?
How do I get an AMP girl to make me feel special and play me? Do you have to be good looking and / or rich. I have not gotten even a nibble like being asked to buy them lunch or anything like that, to indicate any interest from them. I always dress down for AMP visits, should I dress up? Should I bring gifts like food and stuff when I go?They either like you or not. Just have to feel them out and make them comfotable with you. All girls I've been with have hinted to me about seeing them outside. I always go in jeans and t-shirt.
Idusixtyning
03-12-13, 03:56
How do I get an AMP girl to make me feel special and play me? Do you have to be good looking and / or rich. I have not gotten even a nibble like being asked to buy them lunch or anything like that, to indicate any interest from them. I always dress down for AMP visits, should I dress up? Should I bring gifts like food and stuff when I go?Try this. When you monger and find a girl that's new in town, see her more than once within a short period of time. Be friendly but not come on strong. When she's comfortable with you (maybe after a couple of sessions) and starts talking then ask for her number. Once she gives it, then you know you got some trust. Then subtlely ask if she's seen any of the island. Then talk about things she needs to see and then smoothly ask if she would like to be shown around a little. Worked good for me in the past (including Rina when she first got on island). Most of the times I don't follow through because it's really just the challenge to get the girl to want to go out with me. Just don't get caught up with the girl though. It's just a different experience to do but not to get emotionally attached. If you might, then don't do what I suggested unless you're willing to pay a price. Gifts and stuff like that are nothing. Attractive providers get that all the time from admirers. You have to connect with the girl first. And of course, you can't assume that you can connect with just any girl.
How do I get an AMP girl to make me feel special and play me? Do you have to be good looking and / or rich. I have not gotten even a nibble like being asked to buy them lunch or anything like that, to indicate any interest from them. I always dress down for AMP visits, should I dress up? Should I bring gifts like food and stuff when I go?Your question joggled my memory. Not long ago, after a steamy session, an AMP K-girl asked me to be her "boyfriend." I was taken aback and politely blew it off since I have a SO. I know why she popped the question, but it wasn't because of any of the things you brought up such as being rich, handsome, buying gifts, dressing up, etc. Just be yourself and make sure you give her sex she will never forget. Either she likes you or she doesn't. Good luck, Hilifter and keep posting those great reports.
How do I get an AMP girl to make me feel special and play me? Do you have to be good looking and / or rich. I have not gotten even a nibble like being asked to buy them lunch or anything like that, to indicate any interest from them. I always dress down for AMP visits, should I dress up? Should I bring gifts like food and stuff when I go?Read the book, How to be an alpha male.
Hilifter37
03-12-13, 11:26
Try this. When you monger and find a girl that's new in town, see her more than once within a short period of time. Be friendly but not come on strong. When she's comfortable with you (maybe after a couple of sessions) and starts talking then ask for her number. Once she gives it, then you know you got some trust. Then subtlely ask if she's seen any of the island. Then talk about things she needs to see and then smoothly ask if she would like to be shown around a little. Worked good for me in the past (including Rina when she first got on island).Thanks, but I don't think I will bother, too much trouble. My preferred MO is when I go to an AMP (for example GQ) , I first see Jio. Then the next time I go I see Annie. Then the next time I go I see Kathy, and so on. I tell the girls I will finish the line up first, before I repeat with them again. I guess that is not what they want to hear.
Thanks, but I don't think I will bother, too much trouble. My preferred MO is when I go to an AMP (for example GQ) , I first see Jio. Then the next time I go I see Annie. Then the next time I go I see Kathy, and so on. I tell the girls I will finish the line up first, before I repeat with them again. I guess that is not what they want to hear.LOL. Your answer says it all. Keep doing what you've always been doing and you are always going to get what you keep getting. You are treating each girl as common so they treating u as a common customer. U need to pick an amp and only see one girl there. But for variety go to other amps but at her amp just see her and no one else. Got to have a little common sense in this game.
LOL. Your answer says it all. Keep doing what you've always been doing and you are always going to get what you keep getting. You are treating each girl as common so they treating u as a common customer. U need to pick an amp and only see one girl there. But for variety go to other amps but at her amp just see her and no one else. Got to have a little common sense in this game.I'm with you on this one Oldie81! As much as I wanted to do all the girls in one AMP, I stick with one! Hopefully the ones I want to try move on to another AMP and then I can go try it! For example, Vivian and Jina when they were bot at Pink.
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How do I get an AMP girl to make me feel special and play me? Do you have to be good looking and / or rich. I have not gotten even a nibble like being asked to buy them lunch or anything like that, to indicate any interest from them. I always dress down for AMP visits, should I dress up? Should I bring gifts like food and stuff when I go?I used to go smelling of bars and rocking my blallah fashions, and girls didn't seem to mind. I'm somewhat sturdily built and I've seen the relief in some girls' eyes when they realize I'm gentle and considerate after all. The girls for whom any of that matters (they say some customers are "rough", which stands to reason not all customers will be the same) are the ones who want to get my number to ensure my repeat business or to meet outside. I assure you I am no threat to Chippendales men.
Generally as long as they get their 200 and are not mistreated, or better yet treated very well, they'll be happy with you especially if you happen to make a connection. Be gentle with them and treat them like the human beings they are and you'll be fine.
Generally as long as they get their 200 and are not mistreated, or better yet treated very well, they'll be happy with you especially if you happen to make a connection. Be gentle with them and treat them like the human beings they are and you'll be fine.Couldn't agree more. I assure you, I am not Adonis, however, I do add to my list of phone numbers on a regular basis (at AMPs, KB & VB establisments). I think HM has hit the nail on the head with the "treat them like the human beings they are". Now some girls like a bit more frisky-style than others and it still applies. Read their mood. I have an ATF that is sometimes frickin batty and other times actually quite sensitive almost "loving". Just depends. Did the same style in Thailand more than once. The girls couldn't figure it out LOL. Take 'them to dinner, go bowling, shopping (they bargain the prices for you) , touring, etc. Literally 100% of the time I did that, the girl would refuse to take my money (I'd make sure they did anyways)"Can't take your money, too much fun". Keeping a smile on their face works wonders.
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I used to go smelling of bars and rocking my blallah fashions, and girls didn't seem to mind. I'm somewhat sturdily built and I've seen the relief in some girls' eyes when they realize I'm gentle and considerate after all. The girls for whom any of that matters (they say some customers are "rough", which stands to reason not all customers will be the same) are the ones who want to get my number to ensure my repeat business or to meet outside. I assure you I am no threat to Chippendales men.
Generally as long as they get their 200 and are not mistreated, or better yet treated very well, they'll be happy with you especially if you happen to make a connection. Be gentle with them and treat them like the human beings they are and you'll be fine.I don't go to an AMP and expect the unexpected. I go there because the girl was reported to do BBBJ, sexy, GFE, L=9. 5 or a banging bod. And I would like to see for my self. With YMMV at all times and that goes for an old guy like me. I do treat them nice and wish they would treat me nice as well. The ones that gave me a lousy serv8ce or we just don't click won't be getting a repeat from me. Shame to say this but I only take 3-5 min to pop so ALL the prividers loves me. Hehe. No can help! I am told by Many providers that they wish ALL their customer are easy like me. Hehe. S9 I have a lot if numbers in my little black book. Hoho.
You have to have thick skin and remember who she goes home with every night. Jealousy is always there and is a big strain on the relationship if you let it. I've only been in relationships with AMP girls because I cannot stand drunks. You have to make sure you are a yobo and not just another customer. If she is really yours then she won't hide anything. At first she was reluctant to show me her phone, contacts and text because she said it would drive me crazy. After awhile tough she let me see everything and it was an eye opener! She plays like over 2 dozen guys all at once making each of them feel like they are special to her. I know, CRAZY!
On the other hand, I don't look at these relationships as LONG term, more like a get it while you can and get the most of what you can deal. You got to play them a little too. It is fun and adventurous and makes you feel,"yeah I get for free what other guys pay a lot for" but that is about it. LOL Let me tell you that majority of the hotter KBG and AMP girls have SO or BF either here or back home. They will tell you "No, of course not!" But being in this circle I've either seen them with or my SO would make reference about them when they talk story to each other.
Be safe and monger wisely!You are right, problem is I trust her but can't trust customers.
Candyman2002
03-14-13, 22:05
You are right, problem is I trust her but can't trust customers.Brother man, never completely trust a KBG or AMP girl. If you get the freebies ALL the time and are her real yobo, then trust her a little. If you sometimes have to pay, trust her even less! If you always have to pay but she insists that you are special then don't trust her at all! Of all my friends and including myself no one has had a successful LTR with any of these chicks and my friends include a male model and a few lawyers and doctors. They seem to fall in love with the most unassuming guys, seriously. Maybe Opahs is one of them. LOL I know Buster is a player! Haha
You are right, problem is I trust her but can't trust customers.If you say you can trust her, then you shouldn't be so concerned about the customers. You're saying you can't trust the customers because of the influence / temptations that they may have on her. But, if she is someone that you can trust, then regardless of the temptations that comes her way, she won't give into them. What makes you think / believe that you can trust her? Based on what?
If you say you can trust her, then you shouldn't be so concerned about the customers. You're saying you can't trust the customers because of the influence / temptations that they may have on her. But, if she is someone that you can trust, then regardless of the temptations that comes her way, she won't give into them. What makes you think / believe that you can trust her? Based on what?All lovers boys watch out because I'm screwing your love, cumming all over her and then passing her back to you to "trust" her once again. Im dead serious. And if it isnt me tonight it will be another guy.
All lovers boys watch out because I'm screwing your love, cumming all over her and then passing her back to you to "trust" her once again. Im dead serious. And if it isnt me tonight it will be another guy.Just as long as you pay, it's all "G". LOL I cannot believe how many guys want freebies now days. Biggest mistake is to ask for freebies, they are offered not asked for. HELLO?
Oh, and Oldie as long as you tip the normal fee, keep going back for more and more!
I guess better to have lots of girlfriends so if one give you problem you have back up. Problem is get expensive.
You are right, problem is I trust her but can't trust customers.Good luck pal.
All lovers boys watch out because I'm screwing your love, cumming all over her and then passing her back to you to "trust" her once again. Im dead serious. And if it isnt me tonight it will be another guy.When you in LVB mode, you tend to focus on that one girl and don't want to waste your time and money with the others. Plus, sex is not primarily on your mind with her. That's the scary part right there. While you be all good boy with her, she's fuckin other guys, giving bjs, hjs, DFKs etc behind your back. You may not find out from her that she does that, but, eventually you will from someone else.
I guess better to have lots of girlfriends so if one give you problem you have back up. Problem is get expensive.Looks like you are looking for a real relationship but the problem is that if she is your GF / Yobo then she shouldn't be expensive at all. Don't get confused with being a customer and being their Yobo. It's been posted before about how these girls will actually take care of you instead of you taking care of them if they REALLY like you. Find one like that then it is easier to deal with. Knowing that you get for free what others pay for helps a lot. LOL.
As others here who have been in REAL relationships with these girls will tell you. Most yobos will never promote his girl here, only shills, customers or providers ask customers themselves to post for them. Most yobos are here only to monitor their girls activities (see if she is telling the truth about no BB service or other activities). Some post about other providers they see, but most do so without their SO knowing. So, unless you have unlimited funds or am happy with the mind games and sex part then monger on. Or, you can find a true one that will take care of you. That is the #1 clue that you are REALLY special to her. Otherwise sorry bro, you are just getting played, move on. Don't get hurt emotionally or financially.
Looks like you are looking for a real relationship but the problem is that if she is your GF / Yobo then she shouldn't be expensive at all. Don't get confused with being a customer and being their Yobo. It's been posted before about how these girls will actually take care of you instead of you taking care of them if they REALLY like you. Find one like that then it is easier to deal with. Knowing that you get for free what others pay for helps a lot. LOL.
As others here who have been in REAL relationships with these girls will tell you. Most yobos will never promote his girl here, only shills, customers or providers ask customers themselves to post for them. Most yobos are here only to monitor their girls activities (see if she is telling the truth about no BB service or other activities). Some post about other providers they see, but most do so without their SO knowing. So, unless you have unlimited funds or am happy with the mind games and sex part then monger on. Or, you can find a true one that will take care of you. That is the #1 clue that you are REALLY special to her. Otherwise sorry bro, you are just getting played, move on. Don't get hurt emotionally or financially.Thank you for your help.
Looks like you are looking for a real relationship but the problem is that if she is your GF / Yobo then she shouldn't be expensive at all. Don't get confused with being a customer and being their Yobo. It's been posted before about how these girls will actually take care of you instead of you taking care of them if they REALLY like you. Find one like that then it is easier to deal with. Knowing that you get for free what others pay for helps a lot. LOL.
As others here who have been in REAL relationships with these girls will tell you. Most yobos will never promote his girl here, only shills, customers or providers ask customers themselves to post for them. Most yobos are here only to monitor their girls activities (see if she is telling the truth about no BB service or other activities). Some post about other providers they see, but most do so without their SO knowing. So, unless you have unlimited funds or am happy with the mind games and sex part then monger on. Or, you can find a true one that will take care of you. That is the #1 clue that you are REALLY special to her. Otherwise sorry bro, you are just getting played, move on. Don't get hurt emotionally or financially.This is sage advice. Understand the difference between customer and real bf. If you do get to the real bf stage, I hope you like Korean food because that's pretty much all they eat. Sometimes you get to eat American, Italian, Viet, Thai, Japanese, but the majority of the time it will be Korean, especially at home.
Candyman2002
03-17-13, 21:58
This is sage advice. Understand the difference between customer and real bf. If you do get to the real bf stage, I hope you like Korean food because that's pretty much all they eat. Sometimes you get to eat American, Italian, Viet, Thai, Japanese, but the majority of the time it will be Korean, especially at home.Haha, seems like you are there or been there before. Any other real BF or SO members want to comment? Great advice!
Couldn't agree more. I assure you, I am not Adonis, however, I do add to my list of phone numbers on a regular basis (at AMPs, KB & VB establisments). I think HM has hit the nail on the head with the "treat them like the human beings they are". Now some girls like a bit more frisky-style than others and it still applies. Read their mood. I have an ATF that is sometimes frickin batty and other times actually quite sensitive almost "loving". Just depends. Did the same style in Thailand more than once. The girls couldn't figure it out LOL. Take 'them to dinner, go bowling, shopping (they bargain the prices for you) , touring, etc. Literally 100% of the time I did that, the girl would refuse to take my money (I'd make sure they did anyways)"Can't take your money, too much fun". Keeping a smile on their face works wonders.
SsLook at the most recent Kolohe Boy and Sua, he looks like just a normal guy. LOL Nah, not sure it is him but I suspect. Or the other hotties and who they are dating. Young guys without jobs or older over weight guys. Their taste has such a wide range that anyone has a chance!
Haha, seems like you are there or been there before. Any other real BF or SO members want to comment? Great advice!I 'fessed up earlier this year, or was it late last year?
I swear I only thought there was cucumber and cabbage kim chee, boy was I wrong. We went to a Korean store and they had at least 30 types of kim chee. I open the fridge at home and I see many different types of kim chee. Just get a couple types and it's fine, but all those different ones are a little ridiculous if you ask me. Having a Korean gf (not just a KBG) can drive you nuts, if she is from the homeland. Americanized ones from LA are fine as they eat all kinds of food, but the FOB ones stick to Korean food day in, day out. I'm a meat and potatoes guy so having rice all the time is a little irking, but I can say those Korean bbq potatoes are tasty.
Other than food, they are like any other girl. They can be neat or messy, good cook or a bad cook, good in bed or a dead fish. It is all a crap shoot. Sorry for the rant, but as the adage goes, the grass is not always greener on the other side.
I 'fessed up earlier this year, or was it late last year?
I swear I only thought there was cucumber and cabbage kim chee, boy was I wrong. We went to a Korean store and they had at least 30 types of kim chee. I open the fridge at home and I see many different types of kim chee. Just get a couple types and it's fine, but all those different ones are a little ridiculous if you ask me. Having a Korean gf (not just a KBG) can drive you nuts, if she is from the homeland. Americanized ones from LA are fine as they eat all kinds of food, but the FOB ones stick to Korean food day in, day out. I'm a meat and potatoes guy so having rice all the time is a little irking, but I can say those Korean bbq potatoes are tasty.
Other than food, they are like any other girl. They can be neat or messy, good cook or a bad cook, good in bed or a dead fish. It is all a crap shoot. Sorry for the rant, but as the adage goes, the grass is not always greener on the other side.I have to agree with you wholeheartedly except that my GFs from the AMP were some of the best fucks ever! They know every trick in the book and you get to have it with real emotion and BB all the time! Koreans have this passion and fire which is awesome in bed but not so good when they drink. Whoa boy hold on! One thing that I've seen about majority of Korean girls is that if they love you they love you 100, if they hate you, RUN!
Luckily I've only been with Americanized girls and though they eat pretty much anything, Korean food though is still by far their fave. There have been many times when it would be time to eat and all there was was Korean food and if I wasn't in the mood I would just make an excuse to go out and scarf something down real quick. LOL
I 'fessed up earlier this year, or was it late last year?
I swear I only thought there was cucumber and cabbage kim chee, boy was I wrong. We went to a Korean store and they had at least 30 types of kim chee. I open the fridge at home and I see many different types of kim chee. Just get a couple types and it's fine, but all those different ones are a little ridiculous if you ask me. Having a Korean gf (not just a KBG) can drive you nuts, if she is from the homeland. Americanized ones from LA are fine as they eat all kinds of food, but the FOB ones stick to Korean food day in, day out. I'm a meat and potatoes guy so having rice all the time is a little irking, but I can say those Korean bbq potatoes are tasty.
Other than food, they are like any other girl. They can be neat or messy, good cook or a bad cook, good in bed or a dead fish. It is all a crap shoot. Sorry for the rant, but as the adage goes, the grass is not always greener on the other side.+1, based on my past experiences and current one. Depends a lot on how Americanized they are and how they adapt or embrace local HI culture.
I 'fessed up earlier this year, or was it late last year?
I swear I only thought there was cucumber and cabbage kim chee, boy was I wrong. We went to a Korean store and they had at least 30 types of kim chee. I open the fridge at home and I see many different types of kim chee. Just get a couple types and it's fine, but all those different ones are a little ridiculous if you ask me. Having a Korean gf (not just a KBG) can drive you nuts, if she is from the homeland. Americanized ones from LA are fine as they eat all kinds of food, but the FOB ones stick to Korean food day in, day out. I'm a meat and potatoes guy so having rice all the time is a little irking, but I can say those Korean bbq potatoes are tasty.
Other than food, they are like any other girl. They can be neat or messy, good cook or a bad cook, good in bed or a dead fish. It is all a crap shoot. Sorry for the rant, but as the adage goes, the grass is not always greener on the other side.+1, based on my past experiences and current one. Depends a lot on how Americanized they are and how they adapt or embrace local HI culture.
Candyman2002
03-18-13, 16:31
Thank you for your help.Yep, don't get caught up like some mongers thinking they are special. Bang um for what its worth and don't let emotions get in the way or you'll be another sucker! Unless you really hook up, but that is rare.
Looks like you are looking for a real relationship but the problem is that if she is your GF / Yobo then she shouldn't be expensive at all. Don't get confused with being a customer and being their Yobo. It's been posted before about how these girls will actually take care of you instead of you taking care of them if they REALLY like you. Find one like that then it is easier to deal with. Knowing that you get for free what others pay for helps a lot. LOL.
As others here who have been in REAL relationships with these girls will tell you. Most yobos will never promote his girl here, only shills, customers or providers ask customers themselves to post for them. Most yobos are here only to monitor their girls activities (see if she is telling the truth about no BB service or other activities). Some post about other providers they see, but most do so without their SO knowing. So, unless you have unlimited funds or am happy with the mind games and sex part then monger on. Or, you can find a true one that will take care of you. That is the #1 clue that you are REALLY special to her. Otherwise sorry bro, you are just getting played, move on. Don't get hurt emotionally or financially.Time to move on. Tired of being played.
Time to move on. Tired of being played.Have fun lover boys. I'm only saying that to warn you. Cause I've been there. Done that. Unholy used to say it best. Oh wells, you all going to find your love will run out at the same time as your bank account. Most of these young girls in this to make quick money and get out after a few months or years. They don't want you in their life, cause what if you tell there family and friends what they were really doing in Hawaii. LOL. They can't risk that and neither would I if I were one of the girls. But I know, lots of us soo desperate for attention, when we finally get it, its like, I'm in love. LOL. These girls easier to go out with then hot girls in real life (in my personal opinion) , but much harder to hold on to.
Have fun lover boys. I'm only saying that to warn you. Cause I've been there. Done that. Unholy used to say it best. Oh wells, you all going to find your love will run out at the same time as your bank account. Most of these young girls in this to make quick money and get out after a few months or years. They don't want you in their life, cause what if you tell there family and friends what they were really doing in Hawaii. LOL. They can't risk that and neither would I if I were one of the girls. But I know, lots of us soo desperate for attention, when we finally get it, its like, I'm in love. LOL. These girls easier to go out with then hot girls in real life (in my personal opinion) , but much harder to hold on to.That's the whole problem! Don't get caught paying! If you got to pay move on. Hook up with the girl that really likes you and takes care of you! My theory is if you got to pay after the 3rd visit you are just a customer. If she goes out with you free of charge on her day off or takes a few hours off to be with you then you are good to go! If you got to pay then you are PLAYED!
I have to agree with you wholeheartedly except that my GFs from the AMP were some of the best fucks ever! They know every trick in the book and you get to have it with real emotion and BB all the time! Koreans have this passion and fire which is awesome in bed but not so good when they drink. Whoa boy hold on! One thing that I've seen about majority of Korean girls is that if they love you they love you 100, if they hate you, RUN!
Luckily I've only been with Americanized girls and though they eat pretty much anything, Korean food though is still by far their fave. There have been many times when it would be time to eat and all there was was Korean food and if I wasn't in the mood I would just make an excuse to go out and scarf something down real quick. LOLI've been with quite a few AMP girls that wanted to be my gf, but I always kept them at a distance. They are a good fuck as they know many tricks, but being with them on vacation / day off is similar to Sua being spotted with her bf. In business circles, I can be seen with a KBG and many business associates know my gf lives with me. They don't say anything to others out of respect. However, if I were with an AMP girl that they knew, I think business dealings would be a little different and talk would be JR's gf used to work at Roses / Nirvana / Ichiban. That would be like the scene in Pretty Woman where Edward's atty finds out and starts to make moves on her in his absence. Things like that would be in the back of my mind, or if they did her in the past. Unfortunately, KBGs aren't as sexually educated / diverse as the AMP girls, but for me, it is a better proposition.
Candyman2002
03-20-13, 20:28
I've been with quite a few AMP girls that wanted to be my gf, but I always kept them at a distance. They are a good fuck as they know many tricks, but being with them on vacation / day off is similar to Sua being spotted with her bf. In business circles, I can be seen with a KBG and many business associates know my gf lives with me. They don't say anything to others out of respect. However, if I were with an AMP girl that they knew, I think business dealings would be a little different and talk would be JR's gf used to work at Roses / Nirvana / Ichiban. That would be like the scene in Pretty Woman where Edward's atty finds out and starts to make moves on her in his absence. Things like that would be in the back of my mind, or if they did her in the past. Unfortunately, KBGs aren't as sexually educated / diverse as the AMP girls, but for me, it is a better proposition.I agree! I think thats why she is with a guy from out of town. Probably move as soon as she is out of the biz. Poor guy either has skin of titanium or she really treats him good!
When you in LVB mode, you tend to focus on that one girl and don't want to waste your time and money with the others. Plus, sex is not primarily on your mind with her. That's the scary part right there. While you be all good boy with her, she's fuckin other guys, giving bjs, hjs, DFKs etc behind your back. You may not find out from her that she does that, but, eventually you will from someone else.AMP hoes plays with your dick. KBG hoes plays with your mind. Ex-wife plays with your $$$$$.
AMP hoes plays with your dick. KBG hoes plays with your mind. Ex-wife plays with your $$$$$.I actually LOL when I read this because it's so true. Luckily don't have an ex-wife but unfortunately had a few ex's that took me to the cleaners. Young and dumb haha.
Kolohe Boy
03-22-13, 00:20
You are right, problem is I trust her but can't trust customers.When you catch yourself asking her "please be honest with me" many times then you know she isn't.
Member #4374
03-22-13, 03:29
These KBGs are good at playing games becuz that's all they do almost every day.
What about if U meet a KBG who is looking for a greencard. And keep stringing her along that U're going to marry her while getting bomb Korean pussy from her the whole time. Then in the end U burn her and don't marry her. (Which is okay becuz she probably would've burnt U if U did marry her).
Idusixtyning
03-22-13, 03:58
These KBGs are good at playing games becuz that's all they do almost every day.
What about if U meet a KBG who is looking for a greencard. And keep stringing her along that U're going to marry her while getting bomb Korean pussy from her the whole time. Then in the end U burn her and don't marry her. (Which is okay becuz she probably would've burnt U if U did marry her).KBGs are good at sniffing out money. Money is to them is like honey is to bees. As long as you know this, then you can play them if you have the money to play with. Yeah, you do spend some but you have to know what value you want to get in return and realize your limits. Avoid any emotional attachment too. Guys that don't get their value out of it and/or spend beyond their limits or get emotionally attached are the ones that are stupid.
These KBGs are good at playing games becuz that's all they do almost every day.
What about if U meet a KBG who is looking for a greencard. And keep stringing her along that U're going to marry her while getting bomb Korean pussy from her the whole time. Then in the end U burn her and don't marry her. (Which is okay becuz she probably would've burnt U if U did marry her).Most KBGs would rather pay the $30k for a green card than having to fuck someone they don't love / like / respect.
Member #4374
03-23-13, 23:47
30K for doing a greencard marriage is chicken feed. In my opinion, someone would have to be a real phucken loser to do a GC marriage for that minute amount of cash.
I heard these girls don't even pay for a GC marriage upfront. They try to say like let me pay U X-amount of dollars each month or whatever. Then one day sooner or later they just stop paying.
30K for doing a greencard marriage is chicken feed. In my opinion, someone would have to be a real phucken loser to do a GC marriage for that minute amount of cash.
I heard these girls don't even pay for a GC marriage upfront. They try to say like let me pay U X-amount of dollars each month or whatever. Then one day sooner or later they just stop paying.The girls I knew usually pay $15k up front and the other $15k after they get the green card. Not a bad price for the girl, but for the guy taking the risk, he can go to Federal prison if caught. The girl just gets deported back home and goes on with her life. The guys I've seen do the green card thing really needed the money so they figure it was worth the risk. Some of them have been married 3+ times to girls for green cards. I have no idea how they were never caught.
30K for doing a greencard marriage is chicken feed. In my opinion, someone would have to be a real phucken loser to do a GC marriage for that minute amount of cash.
I heard these girls don't even pay for a GC marriage upfront. They try to say like let me pay U X-amount of dollars each month or whatever. Then one day sooner or later they just stop paying.$100k was the going rate on the mainland.
New Heavy Chev
02-15-14, 05:25
These KBGs are mostly self-centered spoiled princesses.
I prefer dealing with AMP K-girls. I get what I want, they get their money and it's a done deal.
Hawaii Drifter
02-16-14, 04:53
Some of these gals get "white fever", marry US servicemen not realizing that their new husban'd E-2 seaman, E-5 Sergeant, or even O-1 rank is not going to buy them Coco Chanel earrings, Vuitton handbag, a posh condo, and an E-class Benz. They fight while he's at home, and is away 80% of the first 2 years. After the 2nd full year she may split, determined not to have children with this guy, then maybe answer ads for AMP's to make quick money. GC in hand, she marches off and starts anew.
Once they start, many can't escape what their $8,000 to $10,000 a month lifestyle buys for them. They go from slave to a military husband to a self-providing, independent Korean-American "businesswoman" in no time.
One gal was a makeup artist and stylist (cosmetologist in training) and started AMP'ing part time, realized she made so much more money, quit her day job, 'nuff said.
Others just want quick money for college or for other reasons, or they have kids from a previous relationship, and don't want to deal with the stripper or hostess scene, figure they pretty much lie there and make potentially more per hour than they could stripping or being a hostess. As a hostess she would have to put up with being drunk most nights, and having drinks with like a dozen guys. In the same night at an AMP, 12 horny guys will leave behind some $1,620 to $1,800 a night, assuming at least half give her $120 each, to the max of $150 each. At this rate, her rent is paid off in the first 3 days of the month, and the rest is play money, money for her kids, a new car, or to send home to family.
Met quite a few who have C-section scars, I ask them and they confirm, they have a young one in tow. The vast majority have a sickly mother or grandmother they're sending money back home to.
In the end, it's $$ and the AMP gets them more of a sure thing faster than they could ever get working paycheck to paycheck.
Must have a lot of sick old people in S.Korea because every girl I met has a "sick" parent.
Must have a lot of sick old people in S.Korea because every girl I met has a "sick" parent.I would say that was true 20 years ago..but most now have bad habits...the korean Americans are evolving.
There may be some sick parents, but I think the majority of times, the family is not as well off as we are here. Your parents are still your parents, and you love and care for them. They cared for you when you were a child and you want to reciprocate when you are able. My girlfriend sends money back to her parents in Korea, and I have no problems with that. However, she has siblings in Korea and the US and they don't help out as much as she does. From what I gather, since she is single with no children, she is able to send money. Her sisters are married with children and their husbands are the sole breadwinners. Thus, the money is the family's money, not hers to spend freely or to send large amounts to her parents.
New Heavy Chev
02-16-14, 21:25
Korean women are so fine. Here in Hawaii, we're getting the leftovers from Korea in the bars and AMPs. But they still look damn good to me. (The one's in their 30's).
Must have a lot of sick old people in S.Korea because every girl I met has a "sick" parent.I heard in Thailand the be-girls often tell their LVBs that the family's water buffalo died and they need money for a new one.
I would say that was true 20 years ago..but most now have bad habits...the korean Americans are evolving.They have evolved so much that they have lost all their morals. They would take all your money, even your last penny and not even feel one ounce of remorse or guilt. Remember that's their job or that's what they will tell you, whether they believe it or not.
These KBGs are good at playing games becuz that's all they do almost every day.
What about if you meet a KBG who is looking for a greencard. And keep stringing her along that U're going to marry her while getting bomb Korean pussy from her the whole time. Then in the end U burn her and don't marry her. (Which is okay becuz she probably would've burnt U if U did marry her).Sounds like fun, but we are no match for a Korean working girl. Unless you like a challenge and live on the edge. I prefer to play with the AMP girl, flat fee and no BS. Kind of like in everyday life, dealing with commissioned sales people, never mind can of worms.
I heard in Thailand the be-girls often tell their LVBs that the family's water buffalo died and they need money for a new one.Yeah, "kwai mai sabai ka" LOL.
They have evolved so much that they have lost all their morals. They would take all your money, even your last penny and not even feel one ounce of remorse or guilt. Remember that's their job or that's what they will tell you, whether they believe it or not.I totally agree they have no conscience they don't care who they rob. I see old guys give money for nothing in return. So sad, guys don't wake up and look for new kbg.
DickTracy25
03-26-14, 19:51
We all know KBGs are there to make money for a living. Yes some of them are bad and they will take every pennies you have. But I have seen some good ones too. KBGs are human, they do have feeling, if one of them said "I Love You" it is up to you to find out if that is coming from their heart or simply just a hot gas. So please draw a line and put the bad apples on one side of it.
I totally agree they have no conscience they don't care who they rob. I see old guys give money for nothing in return. So sad, guys don't wake up and look for new kbg..
We all know KBGs are there to make money for a living. Yes some of them are bad and they will take every pennies you have. But I have seen some good ones too. KBGs are human, they do have feeling, if one of them said "I Love You" it is up to you to find out if that is coming from their heart or simply just a hot gas. So please draw a line and put the bad apples on one side of it.
.Well said...good ones are few & far between, but they do exist.
Well said...good ones are few & far between, but they do exist.True enough, as they say, "even monkeys fall from trees" but as a general rule KBGs are there to provide a service for money. That is not saying they're evil or bad, it's saying that is just the way it is. "Good ones" are ones who provide the service that you expect whatever that expectation is. Think you're going to find your girlfriend or future wife in a KB? Keep thinking that and spend, spend, spend the money. Oh and BTW after you leave, there's another guy waiting in line.
Ss.
True enough, as they say, "even monkeys fall from trees" but as a general rule KBGs are there to provide a service for money. That is not saying they're evil or bad, it's saying that is just the way it is. "Good ones" are ones who provide the service that you expect whatever that expectation is. Think you're going to find your girlfriend or future wife in a KB? Keep thinking that and spend, spend, spend the money. Oh and BTW after you leave, there's another guy waiting in line.
Ss.If KBG ain't doing it with you she's with some other dude.
TongueLover696
03-28-14, 01:04
Yeah, "kwai mai sabai ka" LOL.Are you sure that she wasn't telling you that your Kway is what's ill or diseased?
I used to teach English at AUA. Early on while learning Thai, I had a student who was our local chief of police, with something like a lisp on kW or Q words. Question came out "phwestion". I didn't want to put him on a spot but wanted to help. I asked him to repeat a phrase including "Kwai", but made a slight slip in my pronunciation. Bad mistake. He never came back to class, and when my military I'd card was stolen one evening, he really mad life hard for several hours.
AdventureKing
03-28-14, 18:56
I just wanted to add my opinion that I don't really care to monger or go to K-bars. It's just too expensive to get FS at these places. You have to pay the KBG around $ to $ to use the back room.
Might as well spend $$ to have fun at AMP's. Just give the mamasan .5, and the rest to the provider, and you can pretty much have the fun you want.
At K or V-Bars, you have to spend more money and you're not even guaranteed FS. Some of the BG's even just give you HJ after spending $ for the private backrooms. What a rip off.
The other aspect I don't like about any bars is that you have to drink. I am not a drinker, in fact I don't drink alcohol at all. I feel weird ordering OJ or Sprite at the bars, while the BG orders a huge bottle of Crown and tanks it down herself.
AdventureKing
03-28-14, 19:03
I totally agree they have no conscience they don't care who they rob. I see old guys give money for nothing in return. So sad, guys don't wake up and look for new kbg.Well, it's not just K-BG's who resort to tricking guys into thinking that they're her sugar daddy. I've seen this kind of trickery done by Filipina BGs in the Philippines as well as Chinese and Viet BG's here in town.
This is why I never even bother walking into a bar. I've been to the Sheridan 3-plex, one of them formerly President's Lounge (if I'm not mistaken), and met a cute VBG there, only to get crappy service from her. Heck, the manager at that time was also so nazi about having to see and HOLD ON to my driver's license since I was paying with a credit card.
I totally agree they have no conscience they don't care who they rob. I see old guys give money for nothing in return. So sad, guys don't wake up and look for new kbg.They have a nonchalant / carefree outlook towards men that go to these bars. They focus first and foremost on the money and themselves is their goal / mission. Have this outlook in order to go through men like a number. Imagine if these BGs had a guilty conscience with every customer? They feel bad to say things that's not true and they feel guilty to do certain things. How would they be able to focus on the money if they were to be like this?
"Nah, I better not. I hounding this guy for too many drinks already".
"No hunnee, private room is expensive".
They are discouraging the customer(s) from wanting to spend money. It's like you're a salesman and you tell customers to not buy the item at the store you work at because they can find it cheaper at another store.
TrueTemper
03-29-14, 05:16
They have a nonchalant / carefree outlook towards men that go to these bars. They focus first and foremost on the money and themselves is their goal / mission. Have this outlook in order to go through men like a number. Imagine if these BGs had a guilty conscience with every customer? They feel bad to say things that's not true and they feel guilty to do certain things. How would they be able to focus on the money if they were to be like this?
"Nah, I better not. I hounding this guy for too many drinks already".
"No hunnee, private room is expensive".
They are discouraging the customer(s) from wanting to spend money. It's like you're a salesman and you tell customers to not buy the item at the store you work at because they can find it cheaper at another store.Totally agree. Sometimes we forget that the KBG's are at work and trying to make a living. And we going in their house.
Oldee you get your General Excise Tax License and went register under AKBT or what?
AdventureKing
03-29-14, 05:48
Korean women are so fine. Here in Hawaii, we're getting the leftovers from Korea in the bars and AMPs.I disagree. I think a lot of the prettier K chicks flock out of Korea, especially if they have some decent English speaking skills, because there is more money to make in the US, than back in Korea.
I think the best of the best KBG's who leave Korea first go to L.A./ SoCal area. I know there is a boatload of K-Bars in various parts of Koreatown and some in Orange County. Some of them decide to venture here to Hawaii when they get sick of the K-bar scene.
From what I've heard, BG's don't make as much as AMP girls. Hence some of them quit their BG life, and go right into AMP jobs where they can bank $ - pay for sick parents back home, pay their rent, buy the most up-to-date iPhone, get a Lexus or Mercedes to drive, etc.
Totally agree. Sometimes we forget that the KBG's are at work and trying to make a living. And we going in their house.IMHO you hit the nail on the head. The hard part is trying to find the ones who are not total ROB's. But don't you hate it when they only call you "honey"? Shit if we go to see you at least try to remember our names damn it! LOL.
Are you sure that she wasn't telling you that your Kway is what's ill or diseased?
I used to teach English at AUA. Early on while learning Thai, I had a student who was our local chief of police, with something like a lisp on kW or Q words. Question came out "phwestion". I didn't want to put him on a spot but wanted to help. I asked him to repeat a phrase including "Kwai", but made a slight slip in my pronunciation. Bad mistake. He never came back to class, and when my military I'd card was stolen one evening, he really mad life hard for several hours.Kway is how water buffalo is pronounced in northeastern Thailand and many non Isaaners get the wrong impression; it does mean cock or dick in central Thai.
And BTW, "kwai mai sabai ka" is what the TBG's say when trying to extract more money from their falang in shining armor (white LVB).
Totally agree. Sometimes we forget that the KBG's are at work and trying to make a living. And we going in their house.
Oldee you get your General Excise Tax License and went register under AKBT or what?I take my tax stuff to AKBTS. Thats Aloha Korean Bar Tax Services. Mr. NohNeePay UncSam is my longtime accountant. He said since AKBT is a non profit, no need paypa work. He explained to me getting paid in beers no count as real income. Smaat guy. The bugga do most of the KBGs tax returns I heard. Nice guy even go to thier working place in the private rooms to service them so no bodda other cutomomers.
TrueTemper
03-30-14, 03:27
I take my tax stuff to AKBTS. Thats Aloha Korean Bar Tax Services. Mr. NohNeePay UncSam is my longtime accountant. He said since AKBT is a non profit, no need paypa work. He explained to me getting paid in beers no count as real income. Smaat guy. The bugga do most of the KBGs tax returns I heard. Nice guy even go to thier working place in the private rooms to service them so no bodda other cutomomers.I wrote that thinking maybe you get one partner that going help you with the tours and get no royalties. I still not making sense and sober, will explain myself went I see you at Splash next week if Yujin not busy!!
TrueTemper
03-30-14, 03:36
IMHO you hit the nail on the head. The hard part is trying to find the ones who are not total ROB's. But don't you hate it when they only call you "honey"? Shit if we go to see you at least try to remember our names damn it! LOL.No KBG's called me Honey yet. I know they called me Pabo a few times. Will used your advice and asked them if they remember my name. Going be funny cause I know.
They forgot. LOL.
TrueTemper
09-02-14, 16:57
Just want to thank all the KBG's for the entertainment and eye candy for this long weekend getting me out of my loneliness. You do provide a great service that.
Helps alot of us guys needing someone to talk with. And you girls know most men are Tsukebe's. I just want to thank all you girls that drinks last for 30 minutes.
Will you have everlasting success.
Hawaii Kempo
04-07-15, 15:07
True enough, as they say, "even monkeys fall from trees" but as a general rule KBGs are there to provide a service for money. That is not saying they're evil or bad, it's saying that is just the way it is. "Good ones" are ones who provide the service that you expect whatever that expectation is. Think you're going to find your girlfriend or future wife in a KB? Keep thinking that and spend, spend, spend the money. Oh and BTW after you leave, there's another guy waiting in line.
Ss.Interesting perspective but rule of nature nothing can be stereotyped. Many people are ignorant but think they know everything. I also am ignorant although been going kbars for just about 20 years and have spent my share of hundreds of thousands at these places. Women are there to provide a service but not sexual. Hahaha but some women will do anything for money but some won't. If you go to AMPs then yes the women there are there for just one reason so if you spend money then you will get some. If you go to a KB and get disappointed because you didn't get any, well we know its a gamble. I had girls that I only bought one drink every hour and ended up seeing them and others that became my gf's that I'd stay at her place until she finishes work then I'd pick her up and after a month ended up moving in with her for few years she worked the bar because didn't like touchy customers. Haha but she quit after 2 weeks of being my girl.
She was the best cook and sex 3-7 times everyday was awesome. Ah paradise. Hahaha but in the past. But there are those girls who like. But still will make you spend. Bottom line you can't stereotype. But if ya want a gf a KB isn't the place to shop. If ya want to Monger then most times you will only attract the bad girls. The girls also talk about us if we nice cheap or spend or are touchy or if we make them drink big bottles of beer. Haha.
Wanted to share some personal experience in dealing with working girls. I have been visiting AMPs and hostess bars for some years now and only a couple of times have I had feelings for any of these girls. As a newbie I felt sorry for one KBG, wanted to "help" here to get out of the bar, her response was "why would I want to quit, I make more than you do". OK lesson learned. After that I had no problem visiting these ladies, having my fun knowing it is only business. I prefer the AMPs because the girls, although they are acting, don't give you the impression that there is a possible future with them. Just go get yours and walk out, don't even think about them until the next visit. Hostess bars are totally different, I usually just go to drink and never buy more than one or two neckos, plus play is more difficult. I would see the girls more as friends, maybe get a back rub, a little flirting and eye candy. Easy to say "sorry no more money! Now, I know things do happen in the booths or back room but it is usually too much work, multiple visits and playing along with their games. I thought I was smarter than them LOL.
Met a new girl and things progressed quickly. Starts telling me she loves me, wants to be my girlfriend, wants to go out to eat etc. None of which ever happened but I fall for it. I started believing her. I know I need a reality check so I start searching the forum and found this thread and every single thing she said is reported here by others. It has helped me see thru the BS.
I guess my point is that these girls are professionals and that we will believe what we want to believe. We are just a number to them, a sucker and it is our responsibility to keep these "relationships" in their proper context. BUSINESS! The majority have no moral problem with what they are doing. Maybe this will help someone as other have helped me.
Finger Licking
05-19-19, 21:04
Wanted to share some personal experience in dealing with working girls. I have been visiting AMPs and hostess bars for some years now and only a couple of times have I had feelings for any of these girls. As a newbie I felt sorry for one KBG, wanted to "help" here to get out of the bar, her response was "why would I want to quit, I make more than you do". OK lesson learned. After that I had no problem visiting these ladies, having my fun knowing it is only business. I prefer the AMPs because the girls, although they are acting, don't give you the impression that there is a possible future with them. Just go get yours and walk out, don't even think about them until the next visit. Hostess bars are totally different, I usually just go to drink and never buy more than one or two neckos, plus play is more difficult. I would see the girls more as friends, maybe get a back rub, a little flirting and eye candy. Easy to say "sorry no more money! Now, I know things do happen in the booths or back room but it is usually too much work, multiple visits and playing along with their games. I thought I was smarter than them LOL.
Met a new girl and things progressed quickly. Starts telling me she loves me, wants to be my girlfriend, wants to go out to eat etc. None of which ever happened but I fall for it. I started believing her. I know I need a reality check so I start searching the forum and found this thread and every single thing she said is reported here by others. It has helped me see thru the BS.
I guess my point is that these girls are professionals and that we will believe what we want to believe. We are just a number to them, a sucker and it is our responsibility to keep these "relationships" in their proper context. BUSINESS! The majority have no moral problem with what they are doing. Maybe this will help someone as other have helped me.Preach my brother LOL. I think this happens far too often. Guys get suckered and fall for it and feel obligated to visit their provider more frequently or be exclusive to them. Fk think about it guys these women and sucking and fucking 10 + Guys a day. Though once in a blue moon there are legit ones. I dated a provider for a year. She even paid for everything hotels. Trips etc.
A while back I had a girlfriend I met at Starbucks, we ended up dating and had amazing sex. She mentioned that she worked at a hostess bar Princess off Nimitz it isn't there anymore. Well we dated for 4 years and she got some health problems and lost her regular job. It was about our 3rd year together and she asked if I would let her work at Princess again, she told me that she made lots of money but warned me that guys would be buying her drinks and to get them to buy more she would have to let them touch her and touch them back. I told her that I trusted her and said I'm willing to try. So after a few weeks I gat a call at 4 am asking me to pick her up. I get there and she is drunk off her ass and wasn't wearing the same clothes she left the house in as well as her blouse was unbuttoned 1/2 way down. She said she fell asleep in the kitchen and tried to sleep off the alcohol. I asked her why she was wearing something different and she said she has to attract more guys that way. Well it seems that someone slipped a drug in her drink and though she says she can't recall had unprotected sex. I knew cause she had cum dripping out of her and on her panties. Needles to say she was lucky that she didn't get pregnant nor caught a disease. She ended up quitting because of the incident and I wouldn't allow her to go back. There are guys that also take advantage of the girls too. Someone is always trying to get what they want at someone else expense.
LoveAddict444
06-18-19, 01:00
Small kine off topic but, how you guys budget for mongering without the wife knowing? Are you still able to save and invest / live well?
I know this lifestyle way fuckin cheaper and less risky than going out in public with a "side order". I been pretty deep into this hobby for a few years now already and I want to know how you guys manage your visits while still improving your life / finances. Once a week? Once a month? Every now and then? You set aside some cash for it? Special occasion?
Thanks,
LoveAddict.
Small kine off topic but, how you guys budget for mongering without the wife knowing? Are you still able to save and invest / live well?
I know this lifestyle way fuckin cheaper and less risky than going out in public with a "side order". I been pretty deep into this hobby for a few years now already and I want to know how you guys manage your visits while still improving your life / finances. Once a week? Once a month? Every now and then? You set aside some cash for it? Special occasion?
Thanks,
LoveAddict.First, you need to be making decent money to afford this hobby -especially if you're married with kids and paying private school tuition. Second, all the big spenders that I know of have their own business or are commission sales or bonus-comp heavy executives that have expense accounts. Having your own business is the best way to hide the funds from Mrs.
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First, you need to be making decent money to afford this hobby -especially if you're married with kids and paying private school tuition. Second, all the big spenders that I know of have their own business or are commission sales or bonus-comp heavy executives that have expense accounts. Having your own business is the best way to hide the funds from Mrs.That motion, I know of only 2 guys with regular jobs but they hang around with our gang so many a time either my venture cap, RE, or I (run me own Comps.) That kinda afford this lifestyle. They were KB braddahs, me more VB. Then I went to less hunt more AMP, mp, indies which is aNother whole story. I was 1st witness to seeing my bud give up his ohana for this KB diva, after months of cons, then marriage, worst 3nd divorce I ever saw. Took years before he finally moved forward and got bk on his feet and less in the game. It was sad and one lesson for our gang. It's all a game, and how you play. Your hand. He remarried to a beautiful girl, sadly though still estranged to his 2 kids (adults now) to this day. I guess I talked to them more since I see them on my business hops to the outer islands. Always lessons 2 b learned AND price $ To pay.
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Small kine off topic but, how you guys budget for mongering without the wife knowing? Are you still able to save and invest / live well?
I know this lifestyle way fuckin cheaper and less risky than going out in public with a "side order". I been pretty deep into this hobby for a few years now already and I want to know how you guys manage your visits while still improving your life / finances. Once a week? Once a month? Every now and then? You set aside some cash for it? Special occasion?
Thanks,
LoveAddict.Like anything else its all about moderation but like drugs this hobby also can get addicting. Hopefully you are smart enough to draw the line and know how much you can really afford and don't get drawn in by falling for one of these girls. Its all about the money for them and remember that they are pros at what they do.
LoveAddict444
06-19-19, 18:35
Thanks for the responses guys. I'm going to try work it into my budget better, or maybe just take a long hiatus until I'm in a wealthier position, asking because we have a kid on the way and all that, money going to be a little less, but still comfortable.
Also to all the long-timers, did getting into this hobby after a while ruin regular women for you? Before I met the wifey (Japanese) I was already mongering, dating & hooking up where I could, whenever I felt like I wanted the female companionship, which is rare. I don't really need / like female companionship most of the time, I'm surrounded by fucking women in my family, and I meet women all the time, but I just like oof without commitment LOL. That was my lifestyle until I met my wife, who is a regular girl, parents from Japan, grew up here partially, and not even anywhere near related to our "world", let's just say our relationship is more of an emotional connection and partnership than physical.
I mean the physical ain't horrible, but I've never ever been "done" by my wife or a regular chick from the street / club / dating as good or the same way as I have been by a high quality provider, I'm talking just pure physical skill, foreplay, intensity and everything. It's even worse because generally Asian is my type and that's the majority of clean, accessible, cheap, safe providers.
What's everyone's experience after being in this world a long time and being with so many providers? Especially the married or non-single guys. Do you notice your love emotions getting more and more separated from your sexual emotions? Almost like whether your woman is good or not in bed doesn't even matter as long as she's loyal / nice / attractive / takes care of you etc?
If this doesn't get deleted by Admin. I'll respond in the Men's Health thread, because I don't think I'm senior enough to create my own thread.
GG.
Thanks for the responses guys. I'm going to try work it into my budget better, or maybe just take a long hiatus until I'm in a wealthier position, asking because we have a kid on the way and all that, money going to be a little less, but still comfortable.
Also to all the long-timers, did getting into this hobby after a while ruin regular women for you? Before I met the wifey (Japanese) I was already mongering, dating & hooking up where I could, whenever I felt like I wanted the female companionship, which is rare. I don't really need / like female companionship most of the time, I'm surrounded by fucking women in my family, and I meet women all the time, but I just like oof without commitment LOL. That was my lifestyle until I met my wife, who is a regular girl, parents from Japan, grew up here partially, and not even anywhere near related to our "world", let's just say our relationship is more of an emotional connection and partnership than physical.
I mean the physical ain't horrible, but I've never ever been "done" by my wife or a regular chick from the street / club / dating as good or the same way as I have been by a high quality provider, I'm talking just pure physical skill, foreplay, intensity and everything. It's even worse because generally Asian is my type and that's the majority of clean, accessible, cheap, safe providers.
What's everyone's experience after being in this world a long time and being with so many providers? Especially the married or non-single guys. Do you notice your love emotions getting more and more separated from your sexual emotions? Almost like whether your woman is good or not in bed doesn't even matter as long as she's loyal / nice / attractive / takes care of you etc?
Thanks for the responses guys. I'm going to try work it into my budget better, or maybe just take a long hiatus until I'm in a wealthier position, asking because we have a kid on the way and all that, money going to be a little less, but still comfortable.
Also to all the long-timers, did getting into this hobby after a while ruin regular women for you? Before I met the wifey (Japanese) I was already mongering, dating & hooking up where I could, whenever I felt like I wanted the female companionship, which is rare. I don't really need / like female companionship most of the time, I'm surrounded by fucking women in my family, and I meet women all the time, but I just like oof without commitment LOL. That was my lifestyle until I met my wife, who is a regular girl, parents from Japan, grew up here partially, and not even anywhere near related to our "world", let's just say our relationship is more of an emotional connection and partnership than physical.
I mean the physical ain't horrible, but I've never ever been "done" by my wife or a regular chick from the street / club / dating as good or the same way as I have been by a high quality provider, I'm talking just pure physical skill, foreplay, intensity and everything. It's even worse because generally Asian is my type and that's the majority of clean, accessible, cheap, safe providers.
What's everyone's experience after being in this world a long time and being with so many providers? Especially the married or non-single guys. Do you notice your love emotions getting more and more separated from your sexual emotions? Almost like whether your woman is good or not in bed doesn't even matter as long as she's loyal / nice / attractive / takes care of you etc?After her friend saw you at the beach and the walk to the car, the best way to put a leash on a dog. Congratz. LOL.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2014/feb/14/father-reduced-testosterone-men-sex
LoveAddict444
06-20-19, 23:45
Thanks? Don't wish that evil on me brah! I'm going to buy fuckin gas station rhino pills if I have to LOL.
After her friend saw you at the beach and the walk to the car, the best way to put a leash on a dog. Congratz. LOL.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2014/feb/14/father-reduced-testosterone-men-sex
How you all been? Has anyone got good news about the AMP scene? Where is all the BBFS? Would anyone care to share a list of the latest and greatest?
LoveAddict444
06-23-19, 00:32
Seems like Kison is almost full BBFS as a standard, and Happiness is 60/40 BBFS / CFS. Probably why those two places have been moved to the top of the forums, they're the best going right now. There's also Nabi which is a mixed bag of providers from different places. Haven't ventured to many other places in recent years, but I'd assume mostly CFS.
I'd like to know about the options beyond Happyland and Kison too actually.
How you all been? Has anyone got good news about the AMP scene? Where is all the BBFS? Would anyone care to share a list of the latest and greatest?
"With five dollars in your pocket, you're handsome, you're funny, and you sing good, too!"
Yup. I'm a married guy and I'll try to explain to you single (and apparently younger) guys why most of the customers at KBs are married. If you hadn't noticed, most of us guys are a bit older and have seen better days. But despite what we see in the mirror everyday, deep down inside we still regard ourselves as the young studs we once were. The KBs are an oasis where we are waited on, cuddled, complimented, and pursued. I kinda enjoy just sitting at the bar and receiving the attention. If only for a little bit as far as my $20 neko will take me (usually about 10-15 minutes). It's a nice place to blow off the stress and cortisol that has built up over the day and week. It is massage for the ego. And it is completely fair to compensate the KBGs for their time. Most trades (plumbers, electricians) charge about $120/ hr. The higher priced professionals (engineers, accountants, lawyers) $150 - $300/ hr. So depending on the KBG, that's 4 drinks / hr on the lower end and 10/ hr on the higher end. If you're strictly looking for sex, then yes the KB is the wrong venue. Definitely no value at the KB for the physical sex act.
But here's where it gets interesting: many of us married guys cross over to the next level and go into "hunt" mode. It's the thrill of the chase. Yes, the KBGs will up their hourly rate accordingly and it's fun to bait and stalk. But that's why men fish and hunt. There's no hunt in buying the steak at the supermarket. Yes, it is expensive. But I think no more expensive than hunting or fishing. And as you see on this thread, we compare our catches and often post the trophies for display.
And yes, it is addictive. I now kinda think of KBGs like slot machines. I feed them drinks and see which ones will pay out. Some are looser than others. But it is the anticipation and the discovery that is fun. And oh that dopamine high when you hit a jackpot. There's no thrill of victory if there is no risk of losing. And as the old-timers put it, its about maximizing your earnings while minimizing your loses. So there is that much more joy when the KBG lets you take her home at no additional cost. Of course, there are hidden fees. But that's a whole 'nother topic. Sometimes you chase them 'til they catch you.
But the main thing is that for the most part in my experience KBGs are professionals. As a married man, I don't have to dress up. I can come to the bar when I want to. Usually right after work. They know and I know that this is their profession, and I won't be getting klingy text messages or calls at home. I'm not looking for another wife or girlfriend and am completely willing to share her with others. I'm paying, so I expect good service regardless what mood she is in. As a married man, can't do this thing with civilians at local or tourist bars.
I honestly can't speak for the guys who go into the next tier: long term relationships. I think the most I've slept with a particular KBG is three times. And the thrill is gone already. I hover between tier 1 and 2.
What I don't understand is why SINGLE guys go to KBs. Ok -if you fugly, I understand. But dammit, if you got good looks, game, and guns (or bazookas) - you should be hunting out at the local bars and clubs to chase women who aren't trying to earn a living by spending time with you!It's been a while since I had posted this in KOREAN BAR REPORTS and wanted to share my recent experiences to generate some discussion:
The #1 rule everybody has posted in both the open forums and PMs is "NEVER FALL IN LOVE". I bet the Mama-sans probably give the same advice to their girls.
But for the past couple of years I actually found myself in that next tier of "long term relationships". Since my post, twice I had slept with a KBG and found that I really enjoyed her company both in and out of the bar. (To be honest, I enjoyed that each made me feel better about myself.) The sex was pretty good, but eventually it got withheld while I continued to pay taxes, and so both relationships ended rather badly. I wish I could say it didn't hurt, but it definitely left some cardiac scar tissue.
Now I'm on KBG #3. Just met her about a month ago. We click. Went on a long date. Had amazing sex.
I see my courses of action as follows:
1. Break it off now, before I lose my heart (again). Quit while I'm ahead. Repent, recommit to a life of integrity and regain some self respect.
2. Let it roll. Take it day by day. Hakuna Matata. Easy come, easy go. Let her make the moves.
3. Go all in. Live and love with abandon. Sweep her off her feet, and try to get in as much sex as possible while getting is good.
I really like this one. I'm not going to leave my wife, but I think I could love her. After playing the slots for 15 years, have I hit my jackpot? I don't really want to waste another 15 years. I want to get off of this treadmill. I hope this is the last KBG I see.
Can this work? Her #1 priority is freedom, and she isn't looking for a husband. So this might work, under the following conditions:
1. I only see her outside of the bar.
2. She gets out of the bar business soon (like, within 3 to 6 months).
3. She gets a regular job and becomes financially independent.
Any married guy out there been able to have their cake and eat it too? Maintain a long term relationship with a KBG or ex-KBG?
GG.
Mandalorian45
01-28-20, 02:28
It's been a while since I had posted this in KOREAN BAR REPORTS and wanted to share my recent experiences to generate some discussion:
The #1 rule everybody has posted in both the open forums and PMs is "NEVER FALL IN LOVE". I bet the Mama-sans probably give the same advice to their girls.
But for the past couple of years I actually found myself in that next tier of "long term relationships". Since my post, twice I had slept with a KBG and found that I really enjoyed her company both in and out of the bar. (To be honest, I enjoyed that each made me feel better about myself.) The sex was pretty good, but eventually it got withheld while I continued to pay taxes, and so both relationships ended rather badly. I wish I could say it didn't hurt, but it definitely left some cardiac scar tissue.
Now I'm on KBG #3. Just met her about a month ago. We click. Went on a long date. Had amazing sex.
I see my courses of action as follows:
1. Break it off now, before I lose my heart (again). Quit while I'm ahead. Repent, recommit to a life of integrity and regain some self respect.
2. Let it roll. Take it day by day. Hakuna Matata. Easy come, easy go. Let her make the moves.
3. Go all in. Live and love with abandon. Sweep her off her feet, and try to get in as much sex as possible while getting is good.
I really like this one. I'm not going to leave my wife, but I think I could love her. After playing the slots for 15 years, have I hit my jackpot? I don't really want to waste another 15 years. I want to get off of this treadmill. I hope this is the last KBG I see.Newbie posting but been around. Just my opinion. Enjoy the ride as far as your wallet can go. I'm sure tons of guys have fallen in love and suffered broken hearts like you. No guarantees in life as we all know. You're married so don't risk everything and fall in love. You can't love two people at the same time. So enjoy your side dish for the excitement and fun and when you leave lock it away from your real life.
I speak from experience. I know what you're going thru.
Lick YourClit
01-29-20, 02:44
It's been a while since I had posted this in KOREAN BAR REPORTS and wanted to share my recent experiences to generate some discussion:
The #1 rule everybody has posted in both the open forums and PMs is "NEVER FALL IN LOVE". I bet the Mama-sans probably give the same advice to their girls.
But for the past couple of years I actually found myself in that next tier of "long term relationships". Since my post, twice I had slept with a KBG and found that I really enjoyed her company both in and out of the bar. (To be honest, I enjoyed that each made me feel better about myself.) The sex was pretty good, but eventually it got withheld while I continued to pay taxes, and so both relationships ended rather badly. I wish I could say it didn't hurt, but it definitely left some cardiac scar tissue.That's crazy if I was married I wouldn't be seeing kbg or AMPs I would be having fun and loving my wife. It gets lonely sometimes being single that's why I hit up these places if I was with my girlfriend or had wife I would give her all the attention.
It's been a while since I had posted this in KOREAN BAR REPORTS and wanted to share my recent experiences to generate some discussion:
The #1 rule everybody has posted in both the open forums and PMs is "NEVER FALL IN LOVE". I bet the Mama-sans probably give the same advice to their girls.
But for the past couple of years I actually found myself in that next tier of "long term relationships". Since my post, twice I had slept with a KBG and found that I really enjoyed her company both in and out of the bar. (To be honest, I enjoyed that each made me feel better about myself.) The sex was pretty good, but eventually it got withheld while I continued to pay taxes, and so both relationships ended rather badly. I wish I could say it didn't hurt, but it definitely left some cardiac scar tissue.
Now I'm on KBG #3. Just met her about a month ago. We click. Went on a long date. Had amazing sex.
I see my courses of action as follows:
1. Break it off now, before I lose my heart (again). Quit while I'm ahead. Repent, recommit to a life of integrity and regain some self respect.
2. Let it roll. Take it day by day. Hakuna Matata. Easy come, easy go. Let her make the moves.
3. Go all in. Live and love with abandon. Sweep her off her feet, and try to get in as much sex as possible while getting is good.
I really like this one. I'm not going to leave my wife, but I think I could love her. After playing the slots for 15 years, have I hit my jackpot? I don't really want to waste another 15 years. I want to get off of this treadmill. I hope this is the last KBG I see..Us mongers live life to the fullest. Your courses of action are smart, and best of all we have freedom of chice. AMP girls are safe, cheap, and sometimes great sex. KBG's are challenging and sometimes we find a prize. Remember when it comes to money we will always lose to the Korean working girl. Experiencing love can be the best feeling in the world, but it is playing with fire. Your conditions are plausible, but when she becomes like the wife, time to hunt again. Keep an exit strategy.
That's crazy if I was married I wouldn't be seeing kbg or AMPs I would be having fun and loving my wife. It gets lonely sometimes being single that's why I hit up these places if I was with my girlfriend or had wife I would give her all the attention.You are absolutely right. I hope you find a wonderful woman to be your wife. May you shower each other with love and attention for the rest of your long lives. But we all change along the way as we grow older. Lots of things change after 10,20, 30 years. That is why the bar (and AMP) industry exists. I'm certain that the majority of KB customers are married. But that is a post for another thread. To keep this relevant, I'm told that most KBGs actually prefer married customers to the single ones.
GG.
Idusixtyning
01-30-20, 17:00
That's crazy if I was married I wouldn't be seeing kbg or AMPs I would be having fun and loving my wife. It gets lonely sometimes being single that's why I hit up these places if I was with my girlfriend or had wife I would give her all the attention.
You are absolutely right. I hope you find a wonderful woman to be your wife. May you shower each other with love and attention for the rest of your long lives. But we all change along the way as we grow older. Lots of things change after 10,20, 30 years. That is why the bar (and AMP) industry exists. I'm certain that the majority of KB customers are married. But that is a post for another thread. To keep this relevant, I'm told that most KBGs actually prefer married customers to the single ones.
GG.Getting married isn't all that it's thought to be. If you have money or property, sign a prenup. Or good chance you'll lose half of everything. Happened to me. Lost 2 houses. Almost half of marriages end up in divorce in the US. The divorce rate in Hawaii is low among all states but I think that's because the culture causes couples to remain in unhappy marriages and not divorce. That's why AMPs and K-Bars exist. If unmarried and you have kids when breaking up, just have to pay child support. If married and have kids when divorcing, you have to pay child support and lose half of everything. Why get married, especially if you have a good job and assets (including eventual family inheritance)?
The sex is great when a woman is your GF. Once married, the sex will gradually begin to go downhill from day 1 and be apparent after a few years. A GF will suck your cock and let you CIM, but a wife won't in time. Also better hope the wife will keep in shape and stay attractive.
Getting married isn't all that it's thought to be. If you have money or property, sign a prenup. Or good chance you'll lose half of everything. Happened to me. Lost 2 houses. Almost half of marriages end up in divorce in the US. The divorce rate in Hawaii is low among all states but I think that's because the culture causes couples to remain in unhappy marriages and not divorce. That's why AMPs and K-Bars exist. If unmarried and you have kids when breaking up, just have to pay child support. If married and have kids when divorcing, you have to pay child support and lose half of everything. Why get married, especially if you have a good job and assets (including eventual family inheritance)?
The sex is great when a woman is your GF. Once married, the sex will gradually begin to go downhill from day 1 and be apparent after a few years. A GF will suck your cock and let you CIM, but a wife won't in time. Also better hope the wife will keep in shape and stay attractive.Why does a bride look so happy at her wedding? She knows she will never have to give another blowjob.
Why does a bride look so happy at her wedding? She knows she will never have to give another blowjob.Why is a brides dress white? So she matches the rest of the kitchen appliances.
Lick YourClit
01-30-20, 21:05
You are absolutely right. I hope you find a wonderful woman to be your wife. May you shower each other with love and attention for the rest of your long lives. But we all change along the way as we grow older. Lots of things change after 10,20, 30 years. That is why the bar (and AMP) industry exists. I'm certain that the majority of KB customers are married. But that is a post for another thread. To keep this relevant, I'm told that most KBGs actually prefer married customers to the single ones.
GG.Time does change and if it makes you happy why not. You can still be married as long as your happy and wife happy I don't see a problem.
Newbie posting but been around. Just my opinion. Enjoy the ride as far as your wallet can go. I'm sure tons of guys have fallen in love and suffered broken hearts like you. No guarantees in life as we all know. You're married so don't risk everything and fall in love. You can't love two people at the same time. So enjoy your side dish for the excitement and fun and when you leave lock it away from your real life.
I speak from experience. I know what you're going thru.So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.
Bro.
She love you. Marry that one its a keeper.
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.
Captin Crunch
02-15-20, 06:25
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.Brother,
Sounds like you have a perfect situation right now. But, please keep in mind that you have a SO in the picture. Do what you feel is right and think with the right head. Just my 2 cents.
Captin Crunch
02-21-20, 01:07
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.Where does she bartend?
Mandalorian45
02-21-20, 01:49
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.You are one lucky dude. She's a keeper. I think guys would kill to be in your shoes.
Enjoy the moments but keep things in perspective since you're married.
I envy your position. Enjoy it.
Lick YourClit
02-21-20, 11:29
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.I had a few relationships like this with AMP girls it is hard falling in love with these type of girls when you know they see lots of guys because of the job they do but you know that is how you found them in first place and accepted them just enjoy the moment and the time you have with them not worth being jealous and stress of thinking about what happens with other guys because the heart break is not good for you and not let it affect you just enjoy there time and hope it stays that way and if not move on and remember who are and don't let it bring you down. It is heart breaking thinking of them showing love to other guys and not you so don't let that bother you because that is what they do.
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.I have never seen relationship with KBG (young and pretty ones) ends well. I crash and burn twice myself. I think you answered your own question and you know you are on the titanic. I know how you feel bro. So hard to get off this ride.
Where does she bartend?Haha. I'll let you know when it's over. I'll enjoy my ride before you bastards cluster on board and carjack me! I'm trying to get her to quit the business. Not give her more of it!
GG.
Handsome111
02-21-20, 22:41
Haha. I'll let you know when it's over. I'll enjoy my ride before you bastards cluster on board and carjack me! I'm trying to get her to quit the business. Not give her more of it!
GG.Have fun buddy but these things most of the time 90 percent end badly so my advice stick with the so and enjoy life.
Captin Crunch
02-22-20, 04:26
Have fun buddy but these things most of the time 90 percent end badly so my advice stick with the so and enjoy life.I totally agree. I've seen many married guys fall in love with kbgs and end up with nothing in the end. They get divorced, lose everything that they worked so hard for, then end up leaving the kbg because you cannot keep up her lifestyle, so she dumps the guy.
I had a few relationships like this with AMP girls it is hard falling in love with these type of girls when you know they see lots of guys because of the job they do but you know that is how you found them in first place and accepted them just enjoy the moment and the time you have with them not worth being jealous and stress of thinking about what happens with other guys because the heart break is not good for you and not let it affect you just enjoy there time and hope it stays that way and if not move on and remember who are and don't let it bring you down. It is heart breaking thinking of them showing love to other guys and not you so don't let that bother you because that is what they do.Damn that's well said. Been there myself. Shitty feeling that jealousy.
Easy to say but hard to do. Well said my brother.
Bro.
Did you leave your wife? Sound like that was already done deal and you have the new one already to go. Lucky you get one on deck so go for it and dump and pump the new one take her home for good. I seen many girls leave the bar scene have babies and live normal life all the time my friends can say its good for them. She sound like a perfect woman love you spend money on you wait for you fuck you good and want to fuck you all the time she is special and only fucking you now. Buy her that diamond and get married and never look back, have a nice life retire from the dark side.
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.
Bro. She love you. Marry that one its a keeper.Sorry G, but before you go there, think with your head and not with your heart (the odda head). That's their game; that's their job.
Based on my experience, strike while the iron is hot and screw them before they screw you. These women aren't hardwired to have a normal relationship. Never never never marry one. It will end badly and you will be the laughing stock of your family. I do know one former barmaid that is "happily" married for nearly 20 years now. She was only able to marry him by getting pregnant. She had to put up with his cheating with other Korean barmaids. He had to put her son from her first marriage through college. As much as she could and't stand him, he was loaded and she never had to work again. Although, he kept track of her by making her purchase everything on his credit card. He had millions in the bank but would scrutinized every charge she made on his card. It's a good thing that I didn't charge to fuck her.
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.
Idusixtyning
02-22-20, 23:06
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.Before getting hung up on this KBG, my advice is either first tell your wife you don't love her anymore and want to move on or fix your relationship with her. Did you tell the KBG that you are married?? If you didn't then you aren't being honest and misleading her. So you really have no grounds to judge her while she hustles to make money. Don't knock what she does to earn money unless you're willing to support her so she doesn't have to work the bars.
Buy her that diamond and get married and never look back, have a nice life retire from the dark side.My opinion: even if the original poster wasn't currently married to another woman, it's much too soon to be considering marriage to this bar woman he's called "KBG #3". On January 27, he said that he "just met her about a month ago," so it seems that now he's known her for only about two months. Bar women can be like actresses, and it can take much more than two months to try to determine their real character. So for now, just have fun and stay far away from the jewelry store (smile).
Where does she bartend?Don't tell us, might be my GF, LOL!
Glogauer. My opinion and experiences, not advice because you going to do what your little head tells tou. Have your fun and all the sex you can get now that you are in KBG honeymoon stage. Inevidible (unless you are in the. 05 percentile) that this dream will last until either she moves on to another loverboy or your personal and or financial lofe breaks. I went through a handful l of these so called relationships with bar girls that I thought was like you a dream although I never had marriage in mind with themjust fun and sex which was awesome. Come to find out 2 of the three were married, one with 2 kids and the other married to some dude who lived on Maui. No harm, no foul to me, a little let down but luckily I kept my inner emotions arma length away knowing these relationship flings were just that a fantasy and fling to enjoy. BTW I had a SO at the time too so more so. Enjoy bro although avoid going in too deep unless she is the 0. 05%.
So it's been a few weeks and I continue to take it day by day. This one feels like a civilian courtship. Lots of texting. A few day dates. But thankfully, no "when are you coming to the bar" texts. Definitely different. No huge tabs. She has been paying for her own drinks (and mine). In fact, she gives ME spending money. How's that for a mind fuck? Babe, if you're reading this thread, I love you.
A few of you have shared PMs. The hard part is the jealously. We're not jealous of the working girls who toil in the AMPs. I never really minded the KBGs, either. Hey. They need to make a living. But I have to admit that even though she primarily works as a bartender, I find myself choking down that green-eyed monster when I see her flirt with her customers at the bar.
She's always getting propositioned. She's getting drunk, and she gets horny when she gets drunk. Men are offering money. She goes out on lunch dates.
The part that really kills me is her friends are in the bar industry, too. So I'm hearing about you poor souls. About her bartender friend who is juggling 2, 3 or more boyfriends. Taking advantage and playing these guys for fools. Oh, she's not like that at all, she assures me. But for how long?
So I savor the hours that I am spending with her now. When everything she does is magic. And she's the sweetest girl on the planet. And she's asking me when I can rearrange my schedule for private time. Only problem now is I've come home a few times way past my curfew and wifey getting suspicious and upset.
GG.
Captin Crunch
02-23-20, 16:01
Haha. I'll let you know when it's over. I'll enjoy my ride before you bastards cluster on board and carjack me! I'm trying to get her to quit the business. Not give her more of it!
GG.She has money to spend on you because guys like us come to buy drinks for her.
My opinion: even if the original poster wasn't currently married to another woman, it's much too soon to be considering marriage to this bar woman he's called "KBG #3". On January 27, he said that he "just met her about a month ago," so it seems that now he's known her for only about two months. Bar women can be like actresses, and it can take much more than two months to try to determine their real character. So for now, just have fun and stay far away from the jewelry store (smile).My opinion: anyone who takes the path in life where sexuality is used has issues. Hard times come, sure, but it takes a mindset to exist in that world. I have seen the most seemingly innocent develop that way. Point being that there was a seed there that the lifestyle brings to the front. The longer they exist in that word the more overt the mindset is. I can only imagine how it would be immersed in it day after day. Most of us mongers only touch on it then exit.
We all got a bit of crazy but the lifestyle those girls lead tends to have a higher intensity and concentration of it.
In my younger days I went skydiving once. Static line jump at 3,000 feet over Mokuleia.
It was a beautiful clear day. I climbed out onto the wing frame of the Cessna, saw the naked earth below me between my feet, then arched my back and looked up at the sky above me and let go. Letting go was the hardest part.
The Cessna shrunk down to the size of a fly in an instant. Wild rush of air and adrenaline. Then my chute deployed and the peace that transcends all understanding descended upon me. I softly touched down about 5 minutes later a changed man. One of the highlights of my life thus far. Checked that off of my bucket list and never jumped again.
At least from an airplane.
But I climb out onto that wing each time I step into a KB and I let go of that frame every time I buy a neko for the new KBG I just met. Wild rush of adrenaline and "thoughts of maybe" as I fall. Sometimes the view is good, too. No mishaps yet. Canopy deployed every time. Some landings have been harder than others, but no injuries sustained thus far that I haven't been able to walk away. Or prevent me from stepping back into the bar for another jump.
But this relationship thing. That's climbing up to 18,000 feet without the static line. Jump #3 and I'm in free fall and I haven't hit terminal velocity yet. Wild ride, man. Wild ride. Just deciding when to pull the ripcord. Not quite ready to do that yet.
She knows I have a wife. And I'm not about to chuck my parachute to marry her.
GG.
My opinion: anyone who takes the path in life where sexuality is used has issues. Hard times come, sure, but it takes a mindset to exist in that world. I have seen the most seemingly innocent develop that way. Point being that there was a seed there that the lifestyle brings to the front. The longer they exist in that word the more overt the mindset is. I can only imagine how it would be immersed in it day after day. Most of us mongers only touch on it then exit.
We all got a bit of crazy but the lifestyle those girls lead tends to have a higher intensity and concentration of it.I agree with you 100%. The girls that are in it daily like bar hostess or strippers need to think it daily at a different level, because it how they survive. Their mentality is different.
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