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Phreekstyle
04-03-11, 19:32
.... The girls approach him and ask for a drink, and he says no thank you, but give me your digits and we can hook up later. They leave in disgust and I always tell him, you're cold dude. He says no I'm not, our generation doesn't play games. She knows what's going on. If she likes me, I'll know. I don't have to pay to know, reading her actions are free. He says, my generation can separate lust and love, yours cannot. ...... He said, you can chase a dream all your life, or you can fu*k a nightmare. I'm not a lady killer, so reality sucks, and she suck pretty good! Who is this kid? I tell him he has much wisdom and he says no, he just know his generation's quirk's. Best we learn, because we are dealing with their generation now.This is deep wisdom here, dude you're like Mr. Miyagi for the Monger set.
It is a chase, but in the end we mongers can always make more money, the clock is against the KBG as she only has a limited earning window before her looks fade. Hopefully, we catch her before that happens. But even if we do somehow end up catching her, once a bar girl ALWAYS a bar girl and she will drop you for a better hustle.
So is it better not to chase? Just to sit back while the game is going on around you? Cause even is you don't play the game, the game gets played on you. As sick as this game of circles is, I'm game to play
BGs have a keen BS detector so as you said, the guy better be smooth. In all my years sitting at the bar, I've heard some whoppers. The funniest ones were: "Honey! Remember that house you were talking about? I just put an offer in on it!" (I just bought a new house and put the old one on the market. I was dating the bartender and she spent time at that house and knew it was mine. No DROA was sent to me.) Another one was a guy claiming to be an attorney at XXX law firm. One of the firm's partners was sitting at the bar and was asking the guy questions, then told him who he was. It was pretty funny as it turns out the guy wasn't even an attorney.Heh, despite how BGs or women in general can be materialistic and spoiled, most men focus on the superficial side of things in hopes of impressing the getting the girl. But, here's the problem, you don't want them to want you for that reason alone. She's attracted to your possessions and what you have. But, its not to say she's into you and attracted to you. They focus too much on the impressing. Basically, impressing is showing off. Impressions can only last you so long and take you so far. Try be boastful on a conversation, it will only take you so far. Then, what else to brag about? I think they need to focus on sparking an interest in them.
For Example, let me use John Ross experience, if you don't mind because its a good example. Hehe. He was saying on a previous post on investments with BGs and how they can make more money. This sparks an interest in women because they gaining useful knowledge they can apply to themselves. They turn to you for advice. What this also shows is that it doesn't imply to her that you have a motive because to her she can benefit from it. The way this sounds, it's not showing off, impressing or being boastful. Heh, sometimes its ok to show off, but be comical and funny about it. By doing this, it doesn't come across as blatantly being cocky and arrogant. It's a playful type of showing off. It's the same with being sexual with a woman. Be playfully flirty but, not blatantly perverted.
Example:
Me: "See, I told you it was going to work right? Now, whose the man?
Her: "Oh gawd."
Me: "What? It's true right? Hehe (giggling). I said it was going to work and look it worked right?"
Her: "Yeah, it did work"
Bottom line, don't try to always impress and look good in front of women. This brings up a? With women. The women know that we guys are not perfect and have flaws. But, guys don't want to mention any possible flaw because they feel it may hinder their chances with her.
Exactly! Dating and chasing BGs are all the same game. You just have to analyze the person and see what their wants and needs are. You need to start an offensive based on your findings. All women are used to guys telling them they have lots of money, good jobs, a nice house and car to impress them. They are also used to guys telling them they are beautiful, hot, sexy and so forth. They get used to hearing the same thing and know the endgame is the guys wants to get them into bed.
What you need to do is something different to throw them off their game. Do or say something unexpected. Inject some humour into your responses as well. This will set them at ease and they will let their guard down. Ask questions and LISTEN to their responses. If you can get these down, there is no need to BS.
Some of the older guys have got this down pat as they have done this for many years. Makana comes to mind as he also gives investment advice, but I think through the years, lots of the women have also become good friends.
I like to say women in general not just KBGs. Let's look at a bigger picture at a greater scale.
Women are more cautious on men than men are of women. A woman will test a man to see if he can pass her tests or fail them. Most men fail because they are downright predictable. She's able to read him from the very start. It's like watching a movie and there's no suspense and drama. You know women love these types of movies. If the movie is predictable and you know what's going to obviously happen it wouldn't be all that enjoyable and you lack interest in the movie. Most men are too busy thinking with the small head. Women don't think with their putang. Women think with the big head and use their putang tool to their advantage. That's why women don't give it up and put out easily. Some guys like get them drunk, hinder her thinking so it makes it easier to take advantage. It's an easy way of getting through her defenses. A woman is already thinking, judging and labeling you the second she sees you. She figures you out and then thinks: "Just as I thought, another needy desperate guy" If her first impression of you is negative, let's say she views you as a player. You'll have to prove her wrong that you're not one. In the meantime, she has stuck a label on your forehead as player until she feels she can slowly start to peel that label off. Notice I say slowly peel it off and not remove. It's going to take her time until she feels you have passed enough of her tests to where she can finally remove the label. Most men on the other hand, are not cautious when it comes to women. Once they see an attractive woman, getting her is mainly what's registering in his head."Damn, she's hot!" It's gung ho time! It overwhelms them when they see a hot sexy woman. Then, they do outrageous things in hopes of impressing her. But, all it does is pushes them away. It's like a job interview where the employer (hot chick) see an applicant (dud, chump, etc) who writes too many things on his resume to impress the employer. The Employer looks at the resumes (mens backbone) and tosses it aside. The Employer knows they are boasting on the resume. Therefore, they don't want to waste their time reading all of that.
What more men need to do is to do what women do. Be cautious and keep their guard up. Do your own test on the woman to see if she's really playing you a fool. What do these BGs do also? See numerous guys. You need to do the same and keep your options open. See more than 1 girl. This will help minimize being fixated on that 1 girl. If you're applying for a job, you don't want to rely soley on that 1 job position because you really want that job. As much as you feel qualified and eager to get that job, there's a possibility that they may not hire you. Thus the saying: "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" Same applies with women and focusing on that 1 girl. If you don't get the job you were applying for, then what? You're not going to bother looking for another job? The difference here (this is where it can be difficult) is that an employer may turn you down and you feel down and rejected about it, but, a female turning you down is more hurtful because it's personal and involves feelings (if you have feelings for her). But, look at it this way, it's just a job. There are other jobs out there. Same with women. She's just a chick / a BG / AMP girl etc. There are other chicks out there. Like Oldee said in a previous post: "never say never" Never think that you'll never find a nicer car, a better job, a better place to live or a prettier / nicer girl. When you least expect, you find a replacement that can match or better what you currently have or had.
Iliketowatch
04-03-11, 22:17
I know I've been labeled. Problem is, my label is a tatoo. It's a permanent sign on my forehead. Maybe I should wear a hat, it would also help cover my bald sphere (the kbg's seems to like hiding in their hats around town). All kidding aside. Just looking at the posters here, JR, Mobi, Oldee. . . Are we just spinning our wheels. Are the people we're trying to enlighten, actually on this site? We try to have each others back, but I wonder if they care. Personally, in the past, I thought I knew it all, so maybe the school of hard knocks has to just run it's course. Once you enter the kb world, you will not go back (like a black guy, as I've heard). You get jaded, thick-skinned, and corrupted. I've been to jail, and I'm not the same as before I went in. I was semi-decent before, just like these girls, but I was more skum when I got out. I lie to the kbg's just as much as they lie to me. I call them skum, but I also know I am also skum. The environment changes you. My drinking buddies served in wars and they say they could be the same. They never went into a VB, in fear they would snap. Guys go to kb's because (generally) speaking, relationships with the opposite sex in the normal world just has never worked out for them, for whatever reason. So they bravely slither at first, into our dark world. Growing with false self-esteem, once a girl says,"sure I'll sit with you, handsome". I the man! No tell me what to do, I the one with hottie sitting next to me. Once they enter, they all change, never to go back. You are now me. I am not better a person than you. Just understand the rules of the bar. There are none.
I've shared some pm's from younger forum members asking to elaborate on some of my postings and even met and shared a bar hopping experience with a young member recently. So speaking for myself, I think there are some infrequet poster members or just frequent readers of this forum that you vets help with your advice. I've also asked questions of younger members and I basicaly think this younger generation is much sharper than mine was at the same age. Hey ILTW, the young guy I drank with was really sharp and had similar viewpoints as your nephew. Not to say they all smart as we all see those young guys around getting taken for a bad ride. Was like that too in our generation (bg relationship seekers) and even old guys that didn't learn after 50years going bar guys still today common. I also was fortunate to have 20-30years older mentors young time and I guess the internet is their replacement now. My mentors were g little different than yours tho in that they explained things in my young immature level mind and asked me to look at the results of successful and failiure relationships and decide for myself. These were some of Honolulu's movers and shakers back then and all had the typical lifetime marriges of that generation. Luckily I've always followed their advice till this day which saved me untold drama worries but most of all not wasting $ on hopeless pursuits and how to enjoy myself. Actually, they are a big reason why I joined this forum as they asked me to pass on what was taught to me someday. (not that I've given any helpful info yet) , LOL.
Are we just spinning our wheels. Are the people we're trying to enlighten, actually on this site? We try to have each others back, but I wonder if they care.There are those out there that don't care actually. They may read but, its not like its registering In their heads. It's unfortunate that they only learn after getting burned. Then, they realize. But, they are willing to take the chance because their current social life isn't all that exciting or they in a state of need for emotional + intimate affection. They either had someone before that didn't work out and trying to compensate for it. Or, a need to have someone they never had. They think they only will go so far and thats it. But, females will push and put pressure and in most cases, they'll just give in. In this day and age, there's a lot of social pressure like never before. It would be strange to find someone being a virgin. If you're a virgin, people would be like: "What? Your still a virgin? Your missing out on life and you need to get laid" Its like get with the program kinda thing. They don't want to feel like a social outcast. The clock factor also comes in."Getting old already. Need to find somebody" The older people (both men and women) they get desperate. Age can affect both men and women. Some people avoid social gatherings to avoid the pressure and criticism by others.
I like to say women in general not just KBGs. Let's look at a bigger picture at a greater scale.
Women are more cautious on men than men are of women. A woman will test a man to see if he can pass her tests or fail them. Most men fail because they are downright predictable. She's able to read him from the very start. It's like watching a movie and there's no suspense and drama. You know women love these types of movies. If the movie is predictable and you know what's going to obviously happen it wouldn't be all that enjoyable and you lack interest in the movie. Most men are too busy thinking with the small head. Women don't think with their putang. Women think with the big head and use their putang tool to their advantage. That's why women don't give it up and put out easily. Some guys like get them drunk, hinder her thinking so it makes it easier to take advantage. It's an easy way of getting through her defenses. A woman is already thinking, judging and labeling you the second she sees you. She figures you out and then thinks: "Just as I thought, another needy desperate guy" If her first impression of you is negative, let's say she views you as a player. You'll have to prove her wrong that you're not one. In the meantime, she has stuck a label on your forehead as player until she feels she can slowly start to peel that label off. Notice I say slowly peel it off and not remove. It's going to take her time until she feels you have passed enough of her tests to where she can finally remove the label. Most men on the other hand, are not cautious when it comes to women. Once they see an attractive woman, getting her is mainly what's registering in his head."Damn, she's hot!" It's gung ho time! It overwhelms them when they see a hot sexy woman. Then, they do outrageous things in hopes of impressing her. But, all it does is pushes them away. It's like a job interview where the employer (hot chick) see an applicant (dud, chump, etc) who writes too many things on his resume to impress the employer. The Employer looks at the resumes (mens backbone) and tosses it aside. The Employer knows they are boasting on the resume. Therefore, they don't want to waste their time reading all of that.
What more men need to do is to do what women do. Be cautious and keep their guard up. Do your own test on the woman to see if she's really playing you a fool. What do these BGs do also? See numerous guys. You need to do the same and keep your options open. See more than 1 girl. This will help minimize being fixated on that 1 girl. If you're applying for a job, you don't want to rely soley on that 1 job position because you really want that job. As much as you feel qualified and eager to get that job, there's a possibility that they may not hire you. Thus the saying: "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" Same applies with women and focusing on that 1 girl. If you don't get the job you were applying for, then what? You're not going to bother looking for another job? The difference here (this is where it can be difficult) is that an employer may turn you down and you feel down and rejected about it, but, a female turning you down is more hurtful because it's personal and involves feelings (if you have feelings for her). But, look at it this way, it's just a job. There are other jobs out there. Same with women. She's just a chick / a BG / AMP girl etc. There are other chicks out there. Like Oldee said in a previous post: "never say never" Never think that you'll never find a nicer car, a better job, a better place to live or a prettier / nicer girl. When you least expect, you find a replacement that can match or better what you currently have or had.Are you writing a book? Are you a psych Major? Just wonderdering.
I'm the world's worst liar, so I bomb the girl with honesty and shower her with affection; for me it works well as most girls I meet are receptive, and miss home and family.
Are you writing a book? Are you a psych Major? Just wonderdering.Hehe nope. Major was completely different than psych. Basically, its not hard to realize this. Some people are just a bit more observant than others.
I'm the world's worst liar, so I bomb the girl with honesty and shower her with affection; for me it works well as most girls I meet are receptive, and miss home and family.This always works well for me too. These girls do have a BS detector and an elephant's memory. Very hard to keep lies straight with a BG. They will call you on it fast.
So, yeah, be honest without giving up too much, and the second part about affection, they eat that up!
Iliketowatch
04-04-11, 19:37
Theoretical question? If I walked into every kb in town with a bag of 100's, totaling $50g, and asked every girl to have sex that night for all the cash, would any girl decline? Not that I have $50g's, just playing around to see if some girls are not all in for the cash. Remember I look like a bulldog, an old bulldog. Go Butler. What % are the ones that we are spinning or wheels for no chance in hell. Do some girls have too much pride, and will even turn down this much cash for sex? Are these the girls everybody is hopelessly chasing? Are they the young ones? The old ones? The hot ones? The plain ones? The loners? The always in a group ones? The new girls? The old vets? The skinny ones? The fat ones? Are they the ones we already know will go to the rooms for action and the rest will never agree? Does how they get the money matter? Seeing that kbg's are in it for the money and bar guys are in it for the sex? Would U-turn down a chance for sex, free, everyday? . . . But it was with a guy! No matter how much we want to screw, we (I know I have) limits, do they? Would be fun to see everyone's opinion. This though was spurned by all the talk about be-friending a girl, intellectually stimulating a girl, being an advice giver, etc. Great advise, with the hidden motto: Know what makes each girl tick. Then scratch her itch. Anyone know of any girl with a bald fetish? Sumo fetish? Is a graduate of Butler? Let me know.
Anyone know of any girl with a bald fetish? Sumo fetish? Is a graduate of Butler? Let me know.The only example I've even even heard of was on that episode of Seinfeld when the girl told George it's too bad he's engaged because her friend likes short bald fat guys, the friend being Marissa Tomie.
T69 mentioned a girl has a gangster-looking BF and I'm sure she's not the only one with such friends; 50G's is enough to make them present for the sex session to make sure the money is there and real, and maybe do a hit and run. Hypothetically speaking. This comes to mind only because in actuality, I've had off-duty BGs 'get smart' in the presence of their punk-ass k-BFs.
Bobofet4422
04-04-11, 19:52
All the bg's who work in there got a price! It has nothing to do with what you look like. Unless your Brad fuckin Pitts, then thats a different story. With that kind of cash, bring them to your place drop a few G's down get your freak on then pull it all back and give her 2 billy's. Then go haha, now your an AMP girl with the house fee thrown in. Then maybe they'll start workin the AMP's.
Vincelee76
04-05-11, 00:41
Theoretical question? If I walked into every kb in town with a bag of 100's, totaling $50g, and asked every girl to have sex that night for all the cash, would any girl decline? Not that I have $50g's, just playing around to see if some girls are not all in for the cash. Remember I look like a bulldog, an old bulldog. Go Butler. What % are the ones that we are spinning or wheels for no chance in hell. Do some girls have too much pride, and will even turn down this much cash for sex? Are these the girls everybody is hopelessly chasing? Are they the young ones? The old ones? The hot ones? The plain ones? The loners? The always in a group ones? The new girls? The old vets? The skinny ones? The fat ones? Are they the ones we already know will go to the rooms for action and the rest will never agree? Does how they get the money matter? Seeing that kbg's are in it for the money and bar guys are in it for the sex? Would U-turn down a chance for sex, free, everyday? . . . But it was with a guy! No matter how much we want to screw, we (I know I have) limits, do they? Would be fun to see everyone's opinion. This though was spurned by all the talk about be-friending a girl, intellectually stimulating a girl, being an advice giver, etc. Great advise, with the hidden motto: Know what makes each girl tick. Then scratch her itch. Anyone know of any girl with a bald fetish? Sumo fetish? Is a graduate of Butler? Let me know.Many of the women here in america are arrogant, has too much pride and are really too into themselves to establish any relationship with normal men. Heck, I have gone to many dance clubs, and seen all the normal guys get turned down. It is my better for men to travel over seas to get women. Most of the american women don't deserve your attention and money. Most women in the states are over weight too. It is quite nasty, and disgusting. Go to phillippines, south america, jamica, russia, Thailand, etc etc. The world is an open opportunity. You will be treated much better by foreign women.
Assumming they believed they'd get the 50grand, my guess is 60% but jumps to 80% if they were reletively certain noone else would know of this event. This isn't to say that the other 20% neccecarily got their pride but I think they would decline for various reasons only they know. IE: being faithful to husbands, bf, pride, scared of STDs, or still can't believe even seeing the cash. What is interesting to me is that most of the first 60% would probably settle for ten times less or even less. Also, the remaining 20% MAY do it if over several visits of incremental expenditures of cash and think of it as a bar bf relationship, IE: sugar daddy relationship. The rest that wouldn't do it under any circumstances is probably less than 5% but of that group, they would give it up for free in what they 'percieve' as a bf / gf relationship. Unfortunately, I think many mongers 'try' for this small % group in which case they may end up spending the 50grand over a period of time, LOL. So in conclusion, it adds up to 100% depending on the the circumstances, LOL. This is all hypothetically speaking of course and my 'wild' guess, hehe.
Did you guys watch the CNBC special on pre nups. All women want $, security, nice house, nice car, and end up trashing the man and taking him to the cleaners.
Now if they are Korean or Vietnamese or Chinese, then you are shit out of luck.
Many of the women here in america are arrogant, has too much pride and are really too into themselves to establish any relationship with normal men. Heck, I have gone to many dance clubs, and seen all the normal guys get turned down. It is my better for men to travel over seas to get women. Most of the american women don't deserve your attention and money. Most women in the states are over weight too. It is quite nasty, and disgusting. Go to phillippines, south america, jamica, russia, Thailand, etc etc. The world is an open opportunity. You will be treated much better by foreign women.What the heck is a normal man? This is a fair exchange. The woman has the nice pussy, so the man should have something to deliver on the opposite side. Even foreign woman know that and are tempted to ditch after the green card and she figures she has more going for her than you, unless you downright damn lucky!
Iliketowatch
04-05-11, 17:12
Assumming they believed they'd get the 50grand, my guess is 60% but jumps to 80% if they were reletively certain noone else would know of this event.Are they the 60-80% we do want to screw anyway? Funny how a kbg can say she's not a prostitute if she says he my bf while still getting cash. And the guy can say he's not a john if she calls him her bf, even if he showers her with cash. Symbiotic relationship. Clown fish and anemone. Or maybe elephant and dung beetle.
Also, the remaining 20% MAY do it if over several visits of incremental expenditures of cash and think of it as a bar bf relationship, IE: sugar daddy relationship. The rest that wouldn't do it under any circumstances is probably less than 5% but of that group, they would give it up for free in what they 'percieve' as a bf / gf relationship.And this 20% are the ones everybody is chasing after. And the 5% is labeled a ROB when we all know she will never give it up unless you get in a psudo-relationship with her, so you pump in money and when she doesn't blink, you call her a ROB. Rip-Off-Bit*h? Nope. ROB = Recklessly-Optimist-Boy.
Many of the women here in america are arrogant, has too much pride and are really too into themselves to establish any relationship with normal men. Go to phillippines, south america, jamica, russia, Thailand, etc etc. The world is an open opportunity. You will be treated much better by foreign women.The women these days especially the pretty / sexy ones want to live up and enjoy their youth and looks as much while they still can. Girls who go clubbing don't necessarily be wanting to hook up with guys but, display themselves and be admired. The attention feels good. A sexy chick is like a hot sports car that wants to be displayed for people to see and drool. Girls show-off but, guys do to. They can be into their workouts getting buffed and walk around shirtless. Or, display their strength. They also like one hot chick at their side or in the passenger seat of their car and have other guys drool. If anyone is attractive whether be guy or girl, they'll want to flaunt it. Like the saying: "if you got it, flaunt it" If you don't got it, then find other means of showing off. You got money, show it off by driving in a fancy car and splurging at the bar to impress the ladies.
Some guys that have married women overseas feel it's because these women haven't been exposed to all the materialistic things yet. They're more simple and not spoiled yet. Also, some guys don't like the idea of females that challenge men. A woman who is educated, independent and has a pretty good career will more than likely expect more and challenge you. I know some guys who have married women overseas and they like to be the bread winner and provider of the two. One whom I know, likes that sense of power that he's the one providing shelter and food on the table. He's the brains. She just needs to take care the kids and clean the house. The problem is when you need to always hold her hand and she keeps calling you on how to do this or that. It will be frustrating that she can't use her own head and common sense to figure things out."Honey, how do I do this? I don't know how"
Go to phillippines, south america, jamica, russia, Thailand, etc etc. The world is an open opportunity. You will be treated much better by foreign women.Damn! And here I mistakenly thought kbgirls were foriegn women all these years, LOL. But, yeah, there is some good experiences to be had in 'foriegn' places, hehe. Call me crazy but I still think there are good and bad attitude girls in every country, even this one.
Some guys that have married women overseas feel it's because these women haven't been exposed to all the materialistic things yet. They're more simple and not spoiled yet. Also, some guys don't like the idea of females that challenge men. A woman who is educated, independent and has a pretty good career will more than likely expect more and challenge you. I know some guys who have married women overseas and they like to be the bread winner and provider of the two. One whom I know, likes that sense of power that he's the one providing shelter and food on the table. He's the brains. She just needs to take care the kids and clean the house. The problem is when you need to always hold her hand and she keeps calling you on how to do this or that. It will be frustrating that she can't use her own head and common sense to figure things out."Honey, how do I do this? I don't know how"With Korean and Japanese women though, you don't get that helpless thing, especially around the house. Culturally, the house is the woman's domain. It's when the husband retires that the tables turn. No longer the breadwinner, he is now a nuisance around the house. Also with Korean women, it is very common for them to figure out ways to earn extra money, even while married. So they are rather predisposed to a certain independence.
If foreign women treat men better, I think it is due to a greater degree of civility in other cultures. Americans can be pretty boorish. Do not mistake courtesy for submissiveness, at least as far as Asian women are concerned. I know of several cases where a man got as good as he gave. One was the uncle of a family friend. He fooled around and was caught by his pinay wife. She went into his foot locker, got his 1911 and dropped a round of 230-gr hardball in his ticker as he slept. Another is a real dingaling. Left his wife to move in with his KBG GF. Got into an argument with BG GF and she blacked his eye. Went home to his local Japanese wife who kicked him in the nuts.
I think most local guys with some Ornamental heritage will agree that Asian women are not the submissive stereotype that white America envisions.
One was the uncle of a family friend. He fooled around and was caught by his pinay wife. She went into his foot locker, got his 1911 and dropped a round of 230-gr hardball in his ticker as he slept. Another is a real dingaling. Left his wife to move in with his KBG GF. Got into an argument with BG GF and she blacked his eye. Went home to his local Japanese wife who kicked him in the nuts.
I think most local guys with some Ornamental heritage will agree that Asian women are not the submissive stereotype that white America envisions. Mean.
I knew a guy who had a friend with a k-wife who used to be a BG. She warned him many times that she didn't want him going to bars and would kick him out when he got home late at night. He'd then have to stay at his dad's house. After the Nth occurrence, it was a nasty battle in divorce court.
I once saw an article about how women in Japan were becoming quite good at investing while their husbands were at work. There was a photo of a young hot spinner housewife who remarked regarding her husband, "He thinks he's still in charge!".
With Korean and Japanese women though, you don't get that helpless thing, especially around the house. Culturally, the house is the woman's domain. It's when the husband retires that the tables turn. No longer the breadwinner, he is now a nuisance around the house. Also with Korean women, it is very common for them to figure out ways to earn extra money, even while married. So they are rather predisposed to a certain independence.
If foreign women treat men better, I think it is due to a greater degree of civility in other cultures. Americans can be pretty boorish. Do not mistake courtesy for submissiveness, at least as far as Asian women are concerned. I know of several cases where a man got as good as he gave. One was the uncle of a family friend. He fooled around and was caught by his pinay wife. She went into his foot locker, got his 1911 and dropped a round of 230-gr hardball in his ticker as he slept. Another is a real dingaling. Left his wife to move in with his KBG GF. Got into an argument with BG GF and she blacked his eye. Went home to his local Japanese wife who kicked him in the nuts.
I think most local guys with some Ornamental heritage will agree that Asian women are not the submissive stereotype that white America envisions.I have alot of korean and japanese friends abroad but rather than bore you guys with info that would take too long, I'll just say I can confirm what HL said. However, one clue to having an insight to understanding asian women is that it is customary for the man to hand over his paycheck to the wife and given an 'allowance' decided by the wife.
With Korean and Japanese women though, you don't get that helpless thing, especially around the house. Culturally, the house is the woman's domain. It's when the husband retires that the tables turn. No longer the breadwinner, he is now a nuisance around the house. Also with Korean women, it is very common for them to figure out ways to earn extra money, even while married. So they are rather predisposed to a certain independence.
If foreign women treat men better, I think it is due to a greater degree of civility in other cultures. Americans can be pretty boorish. Do not mistake courtesy for submissiveness, at least as far as Asian women are concerned. I know of several cases where a man got as good as he gave. One was the uncle of a family friend. He fooled around and was caught by his pinay wife. She went into his foot locker, got his 1911 and dropped a round of 230-gr hardball in his ticker as he slept. Another is a real dingaling. Left his wife to move in with his KBG GF. Got into an argument with BG GF and she blacked his eye. Went home to his local Japanese wife who kicked him in the nuts.
I think most local guys with some Ornamental heritage will agree that Asian women are not the submissive stereotype that white America envisions. I have alot of korean and japanese friends abroad but rather than bore you guys with info that would take too long, I'll just say I can confirm what HL said. However, one clue to having an insight to understanding asian women is that it is customary for the man to hand over his paycheck to the wife and given an 'allowance' decided by the wife.
Iliketowatch
04-06-11, 16:13
[QUOTE=Uki Eater; 1169841]Some guys that have married women overseas feel it's because these women haven't been exposed to all the materialistic things yet. They're more simple and not spoiled yet. Also, some guys don't like the idea of females that challenge men / QUOTE]That is the MO of a bar guy. The 2 ends of the "male" pole. The alpha male who wants to dominate a woman (on average, easier done with a foreigner). He is usually the sex driven guy not worried about a relationship. And then the low self-esteem guy, who mistakes being dominated with receiving affection. The more abuse he gets, the more he thinks she cares. Vicious cycle. If there is anything for everyone to learn, it is know the enemy. If you know what makes her tick, then you can decide if you have that to offer. If you want to offer it. Know what you are getting into. Often knowing what floats her boat will tell you what kind of person she really is. Looking back, all the relationships I've had (not bragging, they were all mistakes with bg's) , I can now see what each girl saw in me. Yes, some for money, but most for a certain human trait that they craved. Father-figure, Security blanket, protector, etc. Each one liked the money (hey I do too) , but it was more than just the cash. They would always say, I have customers for that. So learn what's powering their emotions 1st, because she already knows what's powering yours. Like it was said here before, men are easy to figure out. The bar is her turf (like the vietnam war). It's way tougher to defeat the enemy in their domain, because they know why you are there. Do you know why they are there?
That is the MO of a bar guy. The 2 ends of the "male" pole. The alpha male who wants to dominate a woman (on average, easier done with a foreigner). He is usually the sex driven guy not worried about a relationship.These are the types that just need company. Someone to keep him company, go out and watch movies, dinner and get sex from her after. He don't mind if she's not all that bright, educated or has money. In fact, he likes the idea of teaching her and informing her on things. Maybe he can mold her to his liking. (females do this to guys to) Imagine a female challenging him and his intelligence? I think he would be offended. Especially, if she puts him on the spot that he is wrong on something. In fact, he probably experienced women like this before and is fed up with those.
And then the low self-esteem guy, who mistakes being dominated with receiving affection. The more abuse he gets, the more he thinks she cares. Vicious cycle.Heh, its being whipped. But, he don't mind because he love her and happy with the fact that he has her. He's not going to put his foot down, question her and show some authority. He puts up with her antics to avoid an argument. He let's her win. Look at a guy at a hostess bar, he just let the female sucker him because he happy with the fact that she's giving him attention. Maybe guys can practice on BGs since they are women to. If you let a BG take advantage of you in a bar, more than likely you'll have a female outside the bar take advantage of you to.
If there is anything for everyone to learn, it is know the enemy. If you know what makes her tick, then you can decide if you have that to offer. If you want to offer it. Know what you are getting into. Often knowing what floats her boat will tell you what kind of person she really is.Problem here, most guys are too focus and one track minded to see the other side of the coin. If a guy sees a nice chick, he won't be thinking: "hmmm let me study and analyze her so I can better understand her. I need to do this before I start to get excited and turned on by her" Nope. The automatic reaction: "holy crap! She's mean. Damn! Would I want to hit that" Hehe pidgin talking here for some of you who don't get it. This is where women would say: "If you can stop thinking about always fucking us and focus on listen to us for a change, then maybe you can better understand us" To understand the enemy, you need to take a break from chicks and not focus on the impressing and chasing. If your busy wanting and needing a female, the focus is impressing, chasing and getting her. Not so much understanding her. Look at hostess bars, most guys just flash the money and get alot of drinks to get the females attention and hoping they play. The surface (superficial) side of things. What does this imply to the females? Motive and Agenda. But ask yourself this question: if you don't splurge on her, what else do you think she would be interested in out of you?
So learn what's powering their emotions 1st, because she already knows what's powering yours. Like it was said here before, men are easy to figure out. The bar is her turf (like the vietnam war). It's way tougher to defeat the enemy in their domain, because they know why you are there. Do you know why they are there?Women will react, think and assume things. I bet you women who reading this forum will react, think and assume. They'll react to what was written on the forum. Then, they start to think and then make an assumption based on what was written. In a hostess bar, shell react to what you say and do when you sit by her. When you try to get physical with her, she reacts to it. Then she thinks: "ooh, bad boy. So he wants play" and then assumes: "he must be another perverted guy who just wants to Fuck me" Their assumption of most if not all guys that go hostess bars are either: "looking for play with a BG" or "needy desperate guy looking for companionship" Only a select few (if any) will think men go hostess bars primarily to drink and hang out. That's where I mention previously on they'll put a label on you until you prove her wrong.
it is customary for the man to hand over his paycheck to the wife and given an 'allowance' decided by the wife.I lived in Japan and have family there. If you follow Japan's culture lately you would see a lot of High school girls selling their bodies to get brand name stuff. Even house wives are doing the deed working at soapland or maid cafe to get extra income and some sex that they don't get at home. The women also get better positions at big companies because the company uses their female staff to impress the competition, with her beauty and her brains. 8 out of 10 women in japan admits to masturbating because there are not enough hawaii boys there, just kiddin but really Japan has a documentary on TV that explains that. Japan's debt is worse than USA but they have better income from their products and tech. Women in general are human and they do get mighty horny if you get them to laugh a lot and have fun (a little beer too). It works really well with Japanese tourists here. They have money already that's why they come. They want to have fun now that they are here and if you give them a good time they will give you some good times too. IMHO I think KBG are smarter than we think, who's getting the money? If not us then the class of 2010 kids are getting the attention and we are just getting old. Hey, I still get the J-tourists to fall back on if I can't get the KBG.
[QUOTE=Uki Eater; 1169841]Some guys that have married women overseas feel it's because these women haven't been exposed to all the materialistic things yet. They're more simple and not spoiled yet. Also, some guys don't like the idea of females that challenge men / QUOTE]That is the MO of a bar guy. The 2 ends of the "male" pole. The alpha male who wants to dominate a woman (on average, easier done with a foreigner). He is usually the sex driven guy not worried about a relationship. And then the low self-esteem guy, who mistakes being dominated with receiving affection. The more abuse he gets, the more he thinks she cares. Vicious cycle. If there is anything for everyone to learn, it is know the enemy. If you know what makes her tick, then you can decide if you have that to offer. If you want to offer it. Know what you are getting into. Often knowing what floats her boat will tell you what kind of person she really is. Looking back, all the relationships I've had (not bragging, they were all mistakes with bg's) , I can now see what each girl saw in me. Yes, some for money, but most for a certain human trait that they craved. Father-figure, Security blanket, protector, etc. Each one liked the money (hey I do too) , but it was more than just the cash. They would always say, I have customers for that. So learn what's powering their emotions 1st, because she already knows what's powering yours. Like it was said here before, men are easy to figure out. The bar is her turf (like the vietnam war). It's way tougher to defeat the enemy in their domain, because they know why you are there. Do you know why they are there?These words of wisdom are stimulating. To understand these girls, I would like to see them post, although it is contrary to the general purpose of the forum, but I would like to get into their minds and pussy of course.
When I was younger, and did not have the guidance of guys like UnHoly and ILiketoWatch, I was close to a working girl. I offered her the use of a Toyota to help her get on her feet. She said something like,"it's not even fully loaded". They are warped!
I have alot of korean and japanese friends abroad but rather than bore you guys with info that would take too long, I'll just say I can confirm what HL said. However, one clue to having an insight to understanding asian women is that it is customary for the man to hand over his paycheck to the wife and given an 'allowance' decided by the wife.With that statement, we are acknowledging all woman are prostitutes. The wife is a paid prostitute. So why is paying directly for sex looked down upon?
Many of the women here in america are arrogant, has too much pride and are really too into themselves to establish any relationship with normal men. Heck, I have gone to many dance clubs, and seen all the normal guys get turned down. It is my better for men to travel over seas to get women. Most of the american women don't deserve your attention and money. Most women in the states are over weight too. It is quite nasty, and disgusting. Go to phillippines, south america, jamica, russia, Thailand, etc etc. The world is an open opportunity. You will be treated much better by foreign women.I have to agree, I have some local women work friends that are single. One is an architect. She is plain looking and in her mid 40's. A lot of her friends introduced her to a number of guys. I met some of them, they are pretty nice. After a few months she dumped them, mainly because she felt uncomfortable that she makes more than him. She said that she wants a guy that will take care of her, esp financially. After the last breakup I finally told her that the guys that are well to do are looking for younger hotter girls and many are *ssholes that are into themselves anyway. She isn't going to find many guys that are making more than an architect. I was drunk (we used to go out drinking after work) and after getting her excuses I finally told her that maybe before she goes out with guys she should give them an application form to fill out, no sense breaking his heart if he doesn't meet her standards, no sense even going out if he doesn't meet her qualifications. I told her that she was a shallow person. That was the last time we ever spoke again, her loss, not mine.
I have hooked up with a number of japanese national girls, they seem to treat the guys a lot better than the local girls. Plus they seem to be hotter in bed, sexually react a lot more than the local girls. Almost like they can orgasm just by sucking on their nipples. I haven't found the same with local girls.
I have to agree, I have some local women work friends that are single. One is an architect. She is plain looking and in her mid 40's. A lot of her friends introduced her to a number of guys. I met some of them, they are pretty nice. After a few months she dumped them, mainly because she felt uncomfortable that she makes more than him. She said that she wants a guy that will take care of her, esp financially. After the last breakup I finally told her that the guys that are well to do are looking for younger hotter girls and many are *ssholes that are into themselves anyway. She isn't going to find many guys that are making more than an architect. I was drunk (we used to go out drinking after work) and after getting her excuses I finally told her that maybe before she goes out with guys she should give them an application form to fill out, no sense breaking his heart if he doesn't meet her standards, no sense even going out if he doesn't meet her qualifications. I told her that she was a shallow person. That was the last time we ever spoke again, her loss, not mine.
I have hooked up with a number of japanese national girls, they seem to treat the guys a lot better than the local girls. Plus they seem to be hotter in bed, sexually react a lot more than the local girls. Almost like they can orgasm just by sucking on their nipples. I haven't found the same with local girls. Good story. When she's a retired little old lady, the day may come when she needs someone to care for her. She would be lucky if this is a loving, caring, gentle person. Hopefully she will then appreciate your words, and not end up at the mercy of elder care staff. You'd be amazed at how even close family members will not 'be there' for an incapacitated loved one.
I have to agree, I have some local women work friends that are single. One is an architect. She is plain looking and in her mid 40's. A lot of her friends introduced her to a number of guys. I met some of them, they are pretty nice. After a few months she dumped them, mainly because she felt uncomfortable that she makes more than him. She said that she wants a guy that will take care of her, esp financially. After the last breakup I finally told her that the guys that are well to do are looking for younger hotter girls and many are *ssholes that are into themselves anyway. She isn't going to find many guys that are making more than an architect. I was drunk (we used to go out drinking after work) and after getting her excuses I finally told her that maybe before she goes out with guys she should give them an application form to fill out, no sense breaking his heart if he doesn't meet her standards, no sense even going out if he doesn't meet her qualifications. I told her that she was a shallow person. That was the last time we ever spoke again, her loss, not mine.
I have hooked up with a number of japanese national girls, they seem to treat the guys a lot better than the local girls. Plus they seem to be hotter in bed, sexually react a lot more than the local girls. Almost like they can orgasm just by sucking on their nipples. I haven't found the same with local girls. Heh, the problem with a woman who is independent and career oriented, she may want a man who is successful if not more successful than her but, she need to realize that he has options to. Why is he going to settle for someone average looking with a good career when he himself can take care of his own shit? A man who is well off is not primarily concerned about how successful a woman is. He's attracted to her physical appearance first and hope her personality can back up her looks. If a man is attracted to a female and finds her income is not much, its not like he's going to leave her based on that. There's alot of guys who married women who make a lot less than them. Some of the women don't even work. Men are not that concerned about it. Women on the other hand, look at it differently. Maybe she embarrassed by the fact that her man makes less than her. That, or she doesn't want to be the only one carrying their future. She wants someone to fall back on. Some women can boast / brag about their bf / husbands to other women. Women can be competitive among other women. My friends wife says her friends are high maintenance. They like to 1 up on each other. One of them get married and they get a house. The other gets married and gets a house also. Next thing, divorce. Stupid yah? One of my friends I know, he married a girl within a year simply for the title of being married. This way, his friends, relatives and coworkers won't question him on why he's still single. Heh, you wonder why divorce rate is so high these days.
Did you guys watch the CNBC special on pre nups. All women want $, security, nice house, nice car, and end up trashing the man and taking him to the cleaners.
Now if they are Korean or Vietnamese or Chinese, then you are shit out of luck.I agree with you here but there is always some situations where I go WTF? One is a male relative of mine, no job but has a hot girlfriend and she is the one who makes good money and he lives at her place. Or I see the young guy with the older rich japanese woman. It blows my mind. Us guys are here to give woman what they need and in turn we get what we need (sex.) We can give the woman security although its not recommended to be serious with an AMP girl cause sex and money is their drug and they'll quickly forget about you when they are getting money and sex- as much as a buffet every day, until certain times when they feel lonely and will use you to take care of their needs.
I don't think we men should worry as much as women when we get older. Women fear age, weight and their looks to decline. A man on the other hand, maybe getting older, getting bald but, as far as money is concerned, we can still work on that and make more money. Plus, an older man ages gracefully than an older woman. He can workout and put some muscles on and still look good. Women can only do so much to look young. They certainly can't do anything to reverse the aging. They may workout and try to look younger but, the fact is they are older. They know most men young or old, skinny or fat, handsome or ugly, desire a younger pretty female. Men are very visual. We'll criticize every little thing on a females face and body. That's why these women do plastic surgery, boob jobs, lipo suction. Most of men don't do that.
As far as having sex, we can go AMPs, travel overseas or get an FTF. I know some or most would say that women can get sex easily. They don't need to do what we do. Umm. Yeah if she hot looking. But, its not like women will want to have sex with any random guy. Heh, unless she getting paid for it. But, what about the older not so attractive women who are still single? From what some women told me, they don't want to walk up to a random guy and do it with them. They have to wait until men chase after them and they feel comfortable with and trusting of them. Despite how women can pursue and court men these days, most women still prefer a man to pursue and court a woman.
A woman can overlook a man's appearance for security. But, can a man over look a females appearance over her personality? If most guys say yes, why is it that most guys always going after the cute, young females? He could be ugly, old and fat yet, they still want these type of girls. Several women I know now, are not married yet. They may say they don't want to be married etc. But deep down, they probably lonely. If they horny, what do they do? Go to a local AMP and do a young hot guy? Hehe. Imagine a single female living alone by herself. Noone to fall back on or come to her aid.
In the end, all this stuff we shouldn't be so concerned about. Not on this forum and not with these type of women. It's all about fucking girls. Not trying to hook up and find a partner. That's being needy not horny. Despite what I just said, there are guys who cannot Fuck a random girl unless they have that emotional connection with them first.
In the end, all this stuff we shouldn't be so concerned about. Not on this forum and not with these type of women. It's all about fucking girls. Not trying to hook up and find a partner. That's being needy not horny. Despite what I just said, there are guys who cannot Fuck a random girl unless they have that emotional connection with them first.Am I the only one that needs a warmup or are we all like that seriously? I can't tell you the number of times I am doing a beautiful chick and I feel nothing, like fucking a sex doll (never done it but I believe it feels the same) or putting my dick in a hole (other than a pussy, never done that either) but you get it eh?
Just having a 1 minute convo with an AMP girl so you get an idea of her mind sometimes does the trick. Can't believe the number of times I'm getting fucked, the girl is bouncing and making that slap noice as we bang each others belly and I don't feel a god damnn thing and odds are, neither does she. I think thats the reason some dudes prefer the bar game, you get to play the game, warm each other up cause in all honesty, sometimes you don't want to end up with the hottest chick, you want to end up with the chick that turns you on the most and that's where youngin's get it twisted.
Iliketowatch
04-13-11, 15:03
Am I the only one that needs a warmup or are we all like that seriously? I can't tell you the number of times I am doing a beautiful chick and I feel nothing, like fucking a sex doll (never done it but I believe it feels the same) or putting my dick in a hole (other than a pussy, never done that either) but you get it eh?
Just having a 1 minute convo with an AMP girl so you get an idea of her mind sometimes does the trick. Can't believe the number of times I'm getting fucked, the girl is bouncing and making that slap noice as we bang each others belly and I don't feel a god damnn thing and odds are, neither does she. I think thats the reason some dudes prefer the bar game, you get to play the game, warm each other up cause in all honesty, sometimes you don't want to end up with the hottest chick, you want to end up with the chick that turns you on the most and that's where youngin's get it twisted. Any one ever heard of a old Korean wives-tale: sex is for making babies, not for pleasure. I've heard this from Korean women (not bar girls, regular secretaries, bookkeepers, etc.) , that sex is only for getting pregnant. It's part of Korean culture. The tale goes, if you enjoy sex and let yourself "go", you will get pregnant. If you don't, you'll never be a mama. So if you're with a ironing board with a hole then you know she doesn't want to get pregnant, but if you happen to be with a live-wire, then watch out, she wants you to be papa to twins and future mongerers (child support for life). Korean bar girls have even told me they poked holes in the condoms to try and get pregnant. Like most girls, if she's not into you, or if she's just doing it for other reasons, if won't be a memorable event. It's just a chore unless there's an emotional connection. Your hand has no emotion, it's just a release. How much fun it that? Relives the pressure, but fun? The reason guys go after girls they can't get is to have the power of making her finally submit. The harder she is to get, the more thrill it is when she (if she ever) , gives in. Mental stimulus. Ego stimulus. Problem is bar girls don't give in. They all have had bad previous bf / husband experiences and don't want a repeat event. The one's with kids, don't every want to repeat that mistake again. And when they do, (see above) , it's like fu*king a corpse. Hey maybe we should all be medical examiners and work in the morgue. I know (that's sick) , just fu*king with you). Hot girls don't screw ugly guys. If all you ugly, old, fat, bald (I got this list from looking in the mirror) guys would chase the same type girls, you could get nani, no problem. If you're fat, find a fat girl. If you're ugly. . . You know the answer, etc. Even if I could, I wouldn't fu*k myself. Why would a hottie want to? Do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, and it brings me back to dough. Case closed!
With that statement, we are acknowledging all woman are prostitutes. The wife is a paid prostitute. So why is paying directly for sex looked down upon?Taxes are the only reason.
Hey Uki, wait till you get my age and someone your age call you uncle, your getting old post going be a little different, LOL. But getting back to korean girls, have you noticed just how many in the business have had some type of cosmetic surgery done? I was Camelot one time and my partner was telling me what kind surgery each girl had as they passed by. It was almost every girl in the bar! It was every kind from head to toe and some I never heard of before. Some had so many stuff done that she was like a Dolly Parton copy. Personally, I like the fact chicks care about their looks more than men. I just wish I was a plastic surgeon as they may have surpassed diamonds as a AMP / kbgirl's best friend. Just think, alot of $ you spent AMP / kb went eventually to those lucky bastards, LOL.
Hey Uki, wait till you get my age and someone your age call you uncle, your getting old post going be a little different, LOL. But getting back to korean girls, have you noticed just how many in the business have had some type of cosmetic surgery done? I was Camelot one time and my partner was telling me what kind surgery each girl had as they passed by. It was almost every girl in the bar! It was every kind from head to toe and some I never heard of before. Some had so many stuff done that she was like a Dolly Parton copy. Personally, I like the fact chicks care about their looks more than men. I just wish I was a plastic surgeon as they may have surpassed diamonds as a AMP / kbgirl's best friend. Just think, alot of $ you spent AMP / kb went eventually to those lucky bastards, LOL.Hehe. Yeah I know what you mean Oldee. When you get older and is older, you feel like "Who would be interested in an old fart like me?" But, I rather be an old man vs an old woman. Heh, at least an old man can still get laid even if he has to P4P. Also, despite you and others being 20+ years older than me, you older guys been through alot in life whether it be good or bad experiences. I just hope us younger guys get the chance to live as long as you older guys. Who knows what may happen? Our life may get cut short for some unforeseen reason. Heh, so you older guys are at that point of graduating or graduated in life.
About the girls getting plastic surgery, imagine how they are feeling to lose their looks and age. It must bother them alot more than men. They know as they get older, they'll get overlooked and replaced by younger crop of girls. Then they have to bite the bullet and offer more play in order to stand a chance. Imagine being an old BG being overlooked at the bars for the younger girls. They still working at the hostess bars at the age of 50. They don't know of other means of making money and don't have the skill and education to do something else.
Oh by the way Oldee, hehe. I can't believe Carmello beat you to senior member status. I was wondering who would reach senior membership you or Carmello. I really thought it would be you because you post some interesting things. No offense Carmello. LOL. I enjoy reading your posts. The typical postings of seeing AMP providers, MT and hostess bar reports is easy. Anyone can write a report on that.
Hehe. Yeah I know what you mean Oldee. When you get older and is older, you feel like "Who would be interested in an old fart like me?" But, I rather be an old man vs an old woman.Eh, who you calling old fut? Us old guys can hang with the young guys any day! Na na, just kidding bro. However we don't feel like cannot score with the younger chicks cause older. In fact sometimes its an and advantage, hehe. Age is just a number and I have just begun! BTW, only been member 5 months so not eligible yet.
Eh, who you calling old fut? Us old guys can hang with the young guys any day! Na na, just kidding bro. However we don't feel like cannot score with the younger chicks cause older. In fact sometimes its an and advantage, hehe. Age is just a number and I have just begun! BTW, only been member 5 months so not eligible yet.My bad. I was just saying old fart in general. Not directed towards you or anyone else. Age is but a number. In fact, an older guy with a positive outlook is better than a younger guy with a negative outlook.
Iliketowatch
04-16-11, 19:15
This is to the guy that messaged me about being a sour grape old loser. Saying my posts were just because I couldn't get any nani, so I try to discourage everyone else from getting any too. Buddah, you caught me. I now have to confess I've lied to you all these years. I will now tell you my secret. Oh the shame. When I go to the bar, I find the hottest chick, call her over and say,"hey babe, I got only 5 minutes so go get 5 shots, tea if you want, and come back and tank it really fast"."Here's my address, I'll be waiting for you after work". And like magic, they always show up for great sex. Never fails. Any when I go to the champagne rooms, I always remember what the waiter once told me,"in Korea, if you bang the bottle on the floor so most of the champagne shoots out, the girl has to have sex with you". So I always say,"bang away". When she tells me, OH I have to leave already, my roommate is sick at home, I always run to Walmart to find a caring get well card for her. Poor roommate. Did you know all the girls are really angels. Every new girl would ask mama to have the name Theresa. But mama would say,"I'm sorry but I need to known as momma, so you can't go by Mother Theresa". Why don't you pick Hana, or Yuki, you'll think of something. And if the girl says she loves you, marry her. I've married 50 so far. To bad they all had to move back to Korea to take care of their sick parents. At least I only had to give them half of my savings when I divorced them. Hey, they loved me. So the cats out of the bag. Have fun guys. I hate to share my girlfriends with you all, but hey, what are friends for. Maybe I can go to heaven now.
This is to the guy that messaged me about being a sour grape old loser. Saying my posts were just because I couldn't get any nani, so I try to discourage everyone else from getting any too. Personally, I enjoy your posts and even look forward to your unique way of saying things. You write way better than me at least, hehe. I get that you just want to get the message accross that the kbgs don't like the guys for who they are and just for money and money alone. Your dry humor has me LOL alot although I sometimes don't get your sarcasm or what you really think, (probably me stupid). I don't agree with everything you say. (who does with everyone) but I know you are NOT sour grapes. I can see however that sometimes your posts can be percieved in a certain way that can be what was not your intention, (remember 99%). I think you are trying to save guys heartbreak, time and money and put things in a way that you think might sink in their heads better. Old School, hehe. I would like to share what my smart mentors long ago said though, they said pay attention to how your message is percieved and understood more than the message itself, (don't think I learned this yet) , that's communition. I can see clearly that you are very intelligent even if you will disagree in your unique style, hehe. Bottom line is you are a valuable poster as well as entertaining. I know old school guys rather get criticism than compliments which was last sentence intention, LOL. Just my 2cents.
This is to the guy that messaged me about being a sour grape old loser.I second what Oldee said. Well, if you are a sour grape old loser, I think I am a charter member of that club.
This is to the guy that messaged me about being a sour grape old loser. Saying my posts were just because I couldn't get any nani, so I try to discourage everyone else from getting any too.Goodness. I don't' look at your postings in that manner actually. In fact, I find it informative, intellectual and entertaining that I look forward to seeing what else you write. It's relaying a message (especially to a newbie) to keep your guard up, be aware of where you are and know what you're getting yourself into. Not to discourage anyone from getting punani. He's not stopping anyone from getting play or getting laid. But, just be careful on how you go about getting it. Realize this, there's likely someone else who already had her before you. Of course, would she let you know about it though? Heh, this is basically why I and others don't get suckered easily by BGs and see it as mere fun and entertainment. I say (Don't get suckered easily) but, didn't say (Never get suckered). Heck, I get suckered once in a while. Got suckered 3 weeks ago actually Hehe. I almost fell for a BG also (pretty lame actually). But, I managed to snap myself out of it. So basically, I'm not sucker free or needy free hehe. I realized the short term benefit and the long term burden. You may think you always know what you are doing. But sometimes, we all slip, throw caution to the wind and let our guard down. What happens when you do? You allow things to happen.
1. Allow yourself to visit her and spend more $ on drinks.
2. Allow her to get you to go in the backroom and spend more $
3. Allow her to sweet talk you into buying her that iPhone, Gucci bag etc.
4. Allow yourself to fall and get personally involved with her.
Bottom line, you submitted to her. You tapped out. Basically, you gave in.
I can see how some people can read ILTW postings as being offensive and bitter based on how he writes. It can be perceived as negative, blunt and may sound sassy to some people and they get offended by it. Some people are more sensitive than others. But actually, the things he writes is true though. It's just that how he states it, he tells it like it is. Heh, he's like Simon Cowell on USA SG."He's so mean! Oh, but he has a point though" Tell it like it is even if it's blunt. But, hey, lots of people watched AI to hear what comments Simon had to say. Same with what guys like ILTW posts on this forum. Some may read it and think: "Geez, this guy is so negative!" Some people will react and then respond to what he writes. But in reality, it's the truth. In fact, I give him credit for openly saying what's on his mind knowing that someone may bash him or give him flack. What makes his posts interesting is that it has the combination of ranting, its relaying a message, you trying to decipher what he trying to say (makes you think) and it has humor in it. Pretty kick ass posting if you ask me.
Goodness. I don't' look at your postings in that manner actually. In fact, I find it informative, intellectual and entertaining that I look forward to seeing what else you write. It's relaying a message (especially to a newbie) to keep your guard up, be aware of where you are and know what you're getting yourself into. Not to discourage anyone from getting punani. He's not stopping anyone from getting play or getting laid. But, just be careful on how you go about getting it. Realize this, there's likely someone else who already had her before you. Of course, would she let you know about it though? Heh, this is basically why I and others don't get suckered easily by BGs and see it as mere fun and entertainment. I say (Don't get suckered easily) but, didn't say (Never get suckered). Heck, I get suckered once in a while. Got suckered 3 weeks ago actually Hehe. I almost fell for a BG also (pretty lame actually). But, I managed to snap myself out of it. So basically, I'm not sucker free or needy free hehe. I realized the short term benefit and the long term burden. You may think you always know what you are doing. But sometimes, we all slip, throw caution to the wind and let our guard down. What happens when you do? You allow things to happen.
1. Allow yourself to visit her and spend more $ on drinks.
2. Allow her to get you to go in the backroom and spend more $
3. Allow her to sweet talk you into buying her that iPhone, Gucci bag etc.
4. Allow yourself to fall and get personally involved with her.
Bottom line, you submitted to her. You tapped out. Basically, you gave in.
I can see how some people can read ILTW postings as being offensive and bitter based on how he writes. It can be perceived as negative, blunt and may sound sassy to some people and they get offended by it. Some people are more sensitive than others. But actually, the things he writes is true though. It's just that how he states it, he tells it like it is. Heh, he's like Simon Cowell on USA SG."He's so mean! Oh, but he has a point though" Tell it like it is even if it's blunt. But, hey, lots of people watched AI to hear what comments Simon had to say. Same with what guys like ILTW posts on this forum. Some may read it and think: "Geez, this guy is so negative!" Some people will react and then respond to what he writes. But in reality, it's the truth. In fact, I give him credit for openly saying what's on his mind knowing that someone may bash him or give him flack. What makes his posts interesting is that it has the combination of ranting, its relaying a message, you trying to decipher what he trying to say (makes you think) and it has humor in it. Pretty kick ass posting if you ask me. I was tap out with one of Maya's Girls, sorry I can not tell you who it is. You known how it goes lots of sex lots of present or gifts. Nothing is free.
You remind me of host Ryan Seacrest, LOL. Just kidding bro.
I second what Oldee said. Well, if you are a sour grape old loser, I think I am a charter member of that club.When I was younger, I had the same problem as you folks; girls tried to drag me into the room, or else it was easy for me to get them there.
Now, I rock the blallah fashions and can't get girls to even sit with me. Many would rather do nothing than collect $20 from me, and some ignore my attempts to converse. I've even been rejected in disgust by AMP girls. "So easy a caveman can do it"; not in my case.
So HL, what is higher than Charter Member :)?
Embarrassing myself to make you guys feel better; now that's Brotherly Love :).
Now, I rock the blallah fashions and can't get girls to even sit with me.I see a parallel here. LOL! I usually dress as if I am dumpster diving for recyclable bottles. BGs who know me politely smile and say Hi. From a distance. I call it my relaxed grooming standard.
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Bottom line that is all they care about! They have no heart, soul, or feelings. Their keeper is the Devil and their best friend is the loaded shoe boxes in their closets filled with $100. 00 bills.
They live a life of Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Chanel, Prada, and of course the one thing they must have.
Mercedes forgive me for my spelling I am too poor to spell Mercedes. Oh, I spelled it right!
I see a parallel here. LOL! I usually dress as if I am dumpster diving for recyclable bottles. BGs who know me politely smile and say Hi. From a distance. I call it my relaxed grooming standard.There's no dresscode going hostess bars but, I don't think I can walk in with just shorts and t-shirt. I'd look ghetto and thug looking. Plus, feel off if the girl I want to sit with is dressed nicely and I'm not. It also gives a negative impression to the public as looking cheap even though you're not. But, its just how society in general views it. Like walking into a store and being ignored based on how you're dressed.
Iliketowatch
04-20-11, 17:55
There's no dresscode going hostess bars but, I don't think I can walk in with just shorts and t-shirt. I'd look ghetto and thug looking. Plus, feel off if the girl I want to sit with is dressed nicely and I'm not. It also gives a negative impression to the public as looking cheap even though you're not. But, its just how society in general views it. Like walking into a store and being ignored based on how you're dressed.Hey, no tease my formal bar attire. T-shirt, shorts and slippas. This is the construction mans go out threads. At least I no wear my lime green shirt with the reflective vest. Maybe that's why I no get as much tail as you guys. Anyways, anybody heard if jane from damour ever came back to hawaii? I used to like her as a last stop cocktail of the night. Used to go when she was already feeling good. I used to tell her, you acting drunk tonight. She would say her customer came by and bought her some bottles earlier. He thinks I'm his gf so it's easy to get him to spend on her. Dinners, free taxi to work, and all I have to do is make him feel like he's special. She loved to hug and lfk in the back table when she was feeling good. I once caught her on the way back from the bathroom and dragged her into one of the rooms. Told her how about a BJ, she refused but did offer to give it a light kiss on the head for another shot. What's $20 bucks. Hope this wasn't any of you guys squeeze. Pick her up after work and give her a kiss and it tastes like prison food. Sorry man. But you knew the job was dangerous when you took it. The boss is back. Chao!
Eh, thanks ah HL HM and ILTW. I feel high class now! My jeans, polo shirt and sneakers must be bar formal attire now? Maybe I might try aloha shirt and impress the bgs next time or is that too much? ILTW, jane wasnt there last I checked last week but never look in the rooms.
Hey, no tease my formal bar attire. T-shirt, shorts and slippas. This is the construction mans go out threads. At least I no wear my lime green shirt with the reflective vest. Maybe that's why I no get as much tail as you guys. Anyways, anybody heard if jane from damour ever came back to hawaii? I used to like her as a last stop cocktail of the night. Used to go when she was already feeling good. I used to tell her, you acting drunk tonight. She would say her customer came by and bought her some bottles earlier. He thinks I'm his gf so it's easy to get him to spend on her. Dinners, free taxi to work, and all I have to do is make him feel like he's special. She loved to hug and lfk in the back table when she was feeling good. I once caught her on the way back from the bathroom and dragged her into one of the rooms. Told her how about a BJ, she refused but did offer to give it a light kiss on the head for another shot. What's $20 bucks. Hope this wasn't any of you guys squeeze. Pick her up after work and give her a kiss and it tastes like prison food. Sorry man. But you knew the job was dangerous when you took it. The boss is back. Chao!Last I heard jane is still is in korea. My friend was one of her regulars.
and of course the one thing they must have. Mercedes forgive me for my spelling I am too poor to spell Mercedes. Oh, I spelled it right!Heh, my thoughts exactly. Alot of young and old Korean women drive Mercedes. It's like they absolutely must go through that phase in life of having a Mercedes car. Heh, that's why women don't think about sex as much as men. They enjoy these materialistic things. I know women shopping every single day my goodness. What is it that they need to buy that they didn't buy yesterday or the day before? Hehe geez. I guess that's what makes them happy by treating themselves. Then, go home and admire what they just purchased. Then when you bored again, buy something different. I shouldn't talk, I do the same to but, with guy stuffs. LOL
I usually wear a regular tshirt and shorts. Someting that's comfortable. I wear polo / slacks at work all day so I really don't want to wear that kind of attire when I go out. Shoes or slippers is 50/50. As far as the hair its also 50/50, gel it or wear a beanie. My ethnicity makes me default-ghetto so honestly I don't think it matters what I wear, LOL. IMHO a kb is NOT a place where I think I need to dress up.
I probably dress the way I do on purpose just to see whice girls "see past" the way I dress and still offer to sit with me, almost like a "game." Maybe it's my weird way to judge a bg "character." Also when I see a kbg with a cheap bag like a GUESS bag, it's kinda of a turn on for me.
On the topic of cars, I hardly see any of the koreans girls drive cars, unlike the viets where a lot of them drive merc / bmw. Usually when I ask them if they drive they usually tell me no as they only live in the koreamoku area anyway.
Eh, thanks ah HL HM and ILTW. I feel high class now! My jeans, polo shirt and sneakers must be bar formal attire now? Maybe I might try aloha shirt and impress the bgs next time or is that too much? ILTW, jane wasnt there last I checked last week but never look in the rooms.Don't forget to shave once in a while and comb your hair; I find that seems to help :). In the late 90's I went into Napa's with a Polo shirt and this old hostess said, "You looks PUA!". Told her that's f-en rude and left.
A BG told me a few months ago that Jane should be returning in May, so should be soon.
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Bottom line that is all they care about! They have no heart, soul, or feelings. Their keeper is the Devil and their best friend is the loaded shoe boxes in their closets filled with $100. 00 bills.
They live a life of Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Chanel, Prada, and of course the one thing they must have.
Mercedes forgive me for my spelling I am too poor to spell Mercedes. Oh, I spelled it right! I think they have heart but with all the attention from men and the money flowing in, its way too easy to get swayed by the evil forces- very easy. The sexual benefits plus the money they take in make them entertainment value only, not to be taken seriously unless you want to brave it and dig deeper into their lives while keeping your donations to them at a minimum, short term flings (and when i say this, i not talking about in the working place, that ain't a fling, that's a business transaction and if she only goes out with you if you take her to the mall and buy her expensive stuff, that's also a business transaction) is a much better idea and to keep yourself a playboy at these places where these girls are found. Even with that i have a criteria for whom i'll even think of messing this way with which i'll keep to myself- and the rule for me is- money over bitches and i believe that's the rule for them too as we are the bitches to them. I was even told by a hot asian milf (yes i love them milfs as much as i like the young pussies, sometimes more so) who didn't work in the bars/amps, "That man rich, that man i love." Lol. This was verbatim what she told me and yes, she drove a mercedes and was had the gucci bag, the prada bag and whatever the hell i don't know about that she got some fat overweight bald dude to buy her, oops and forgot about the plastic surgeries she also convinced him to get her. This poor dude getting used. Sorry off topic.
But most guys in my opinion don't have any idea what a popular working girl makes but the number being thrown around is $20, 000-30, 000 a month tax free, I'm sure more if she one experienced gold digger. What type of power you think you got that would pull someone away from that anyway? What I don't understand is how some can pull magic tricks and make that money disappear even if they not on drugs or got robbed or a chronic gambler. Don't tell me they sending all that money back to korea to help their families which could be the case for some.
Breaking it down say a girl makes $10,000/month tax free which i believe is conservative. $2000 a month for rent. $8000 left. 2 luxery bags a month, $6000 left, $2000 for clothes, $4000 left. $1000 for food, $3000 left. Money for family- who knows. Perhaps they do need more money lol! cause i never even through in the money for the trips!!!
I think they have heart but with all the attention from men and the money flowing in, its way too easy to get swayed by the evil forces- very easy. The sexual benefits plus the money they take in make them entertainment value only, not to be taken seriously unless you want to brave it and dig deeper into their lives while keeping your donations to them at a minimum, short term flings (and when I say this, I not talking about in the working place, that ain't a fling, that's a business transaction and if she only goes out with you if you take her to the mall and buy her expensive stuff, that's also a business transaction) is a much better idea and to keep yourself a playboy at these places where these girls are found. Even with that I have a criteria for whom I'll even think of messing this way with which I'll keep to myself- and the rule for me is- money over bitches and I believe that's the rule for them too as we are the bitches to them. I was even told by a hot asian MILF (yes I love them milfs as much as I like the young pussies, sometimes more so) who didn't work in the bars / AMPs,"That man rich, that man I love." LOL. This was verbatim what she told me and yes, she drove a mercedes and was had the gucci bag, the prada bag and whatever the hell I don't know about that she got some fat overweight bald dude to buy her, oops and forgot about the plastic surgeries she also convinced him to get her. This poor dude getting used. Sorry off topic.
But most guys in my opinion don't have any idea what a popular working girl makes but the number being thrown around is $20, 000-30, 000 a month tax free, I'm sure more if she one experienced gold digger. What type of power you think you got that would pull someone away from that anyway? What I don't understand is how some can pull magic tricks and make that money disappear even if they not on drugs or got robbed or a chronic gambler. Don't tell me they sending all that money back to korea to help their families which could be the case for some.
Breaking it down say a girl makes $10, 000 / month tax free which I believe is conservative. $2000 a month for rent. $8000 left. 2 luxery bags a month, $6000 left, $2000 for clothes, $4000 left. $1000 for food, $3000 left. Money for family- who knows. Perhaps they do need more money LOL! Cause I never even through in the money for the trips! I realized too late I wrote the word,"Fat overweight bald dude". Hope that didn't offend anyone as I know I ain't no super model.
I As far as the hair its also 50/50, gel it or wear a beanie.
I probably dress the way I do on purpose just to see whice girls "see past" the way I dress and still offer to sit with me, almost like a "game." Maybe it's my weird way to judge a bg "character." Also when I see a kbg with a cheap bag like a GUESS bag, it's kinda of a turn on for me.
On the topic of cars, I hardly see any of the koreans girls drive cars, unlike the viets where a lot of them drive merc / bmw. Usually when I ask them if they drive they usually tell me no as they only live in the koreamoku area anyway.BTW, does your beanie have the single propeller on top? Hehe, just kidding bro. I like your thinking as many bgs will judge you on your attire especially if you are young. You got a better chance of finding a nicer one that way. A guy my age don't matter as much cause they know casual attire doesn't neccesarily mean cheap charlie. For young guys however, it usually does. I do not agree that your ethnicity automatically makes you getto looking tho. Its the hairstyle, dress, posture, facial expressions, and language style that make someone look getto imo. As far as cars, many kbgs do have cars but don't drive to work. Many have customers that act as 24/7 taxi even if they have a car. New to hawaii girls or stay with mama usually don't tho. Lastly, when the bg starts giving you advice or demands on your dress, thats the start of your becoming her bar bf, LOL.
FWIW, I've met a number of BGs who don't rock the German cars and stuff but are paying big bux to send kids to Punahou or Iolani. I met one whose daughter was going to an Ivy League school. Not trying to defend KBGs, but there's more than one story in this nekkid city.
I actually went out with a KBG but I didn't meet her at work. My buddy was dating one of her friends and they wanted company and a chance to play match maker so they set up a double date. We hit it off pretty goood and I didn't find out she was a KBG until after a couple of dates. It was kinda weird at first but I got use to it.
A lot of the girls do it because the money is really good and they don't really have any other type of job skills. My girl did it because she liked living in the US and her dreams of being in the fashion industry here didn't work out. She couldn't get any other job that pays even close to what she makes while working at a korean bar with her limited english.
KBG's are always looking for a way out of the industry. Their only ticket out is to either save enough money and start their own business or meet a guy that makes a lot of money to take care of them. My girls best friend quit the business because she met a really nice dude that pays for rent, a brand new benz and gives her a lot of spending money!
FYI. A lot of these girls have been taken advantage of hurt by other people, especially past boyfriends. That's why they always have a shield up and have a hard time trusting people or men.
Even the KBGs can't get blood from a rock. Money sources for discretionary spending are either shrinking or drying up fast. Many people are in financial denial and will need to address that point sooner than later; time marches on and the surprising truth eventually surfaces in the KB world.
Iliketowatch
04-21-11, 15:48
I realized too late I wrote the word,"Fat overweight bald dude". Hope that didn't offend anyone as I know I ain't no super model.Fat overweight bald + old dude. Don't tase me dude. The ole 4-bagger of lady killing traits. I was peeking under girls skirts when god passed out the looks.
Iliketowatch
04-21-11, 16:13
She couldn't get any other job that pays even close to what she makes while working at a korean bar with her limited english.
FYI. A lot of these girls have been taken advantage of hurt by other people, especially past boyfriends. That's why they always have a shield up and have a hard time trusting people or men. Yep, it's the bar or sugar daddy. She wouldn't be able to afford rent working in a k-restaurant. The only place where limited english skills might take her, if she's legal. Staying at momma's house is a big economic plus. I wish I could stay at mommas house for free. Her options other than the bar is limited.
As I've said in the past. 100% (here's the %'s again) , have had shitty past relationships. Ex-bf, ex-husband, ex-pimp? . . . Kid baggage. . . They all have mental emotional baggage regarding men. Not to mention the way women are treated in korea. It all adds up to a jaded image of the male. The truth is, it's not their fault they end up this way. But it is your fault if you choose to dance with the devil. The guy who said, the only thing to fear is fear itself, never had a relationship with a kbg. Let me play some songs for you: Looking for love in all the wrong places; Can't buy me love. . . Uv; what love got to do with it; You look like an angel, walk like an angel, talk like an angel, but I got wise, she's the devil in disguise; (Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, here she comes) watch out boy she'll chew you up (Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, here she comes) she's a maneater, maneater. Play this on your ipod just as you start reaching for that Jackson.
Sik Dj Gugu
04-21-11, 20:13
Let me play some songs for you: Looking for love in all the wrong places; Can't buy me love. . . Uv; what love got to do with it; You look like an angel, walk like an angel, talk like an angel, but I got wise, she's the devil in disguise; (Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, here she comes) watch out boy she'll chew you up (Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, here she comes) she's a maneater, maneater. Play this on your ipod just as you start reaching for that Jackson.Has anyone ever sang one of these songs at the kb? Haha That would be awesome! It'll be the monger's national anthem.
Has anyone ever sang one of these songs at the kb? Haha That would be awesome! It'll be the monger's national anthem.I have. I also sang Money by Pink Floyd.
Has anyone ever sang one of these songs at the kb? Haha That would be awesome! It'll be the monger's national anthem.Yeah, but I like Evil Ways-Santana, I'm your puppet-classics4, and She's always a women to me-forget. Oldee grabs the mic: I now dedicate this song to Sue at you know where. Its callled Round Around Sue by Dion. Here's my story sad but true, about a bgirl I once knew, sing it boys! LOL
Has anyone ever sang one of these songs at the kb? Haha That would be awesome! It'll be the monger's national anthem.Yeah but I like Evil Ways by Santana, I'm your puppet by classics4, and She's always a woman to me by. Oldee grabs the mic: I now dedicate this song Run around Sue by Dion to Sue at you know where. Oldee starts: Here's my story sad but true, about a kgirl I once knew, Sing it boys! LOL
Has anyone ever sang one of these songs at the kb? Haha That would be awesome! It'll be the monger's national anthem.Would be hilarious you singing it directly to the BG you sitting with. She starts to hound for drinks and up to her tricks / tactics, you sing your ass off.
(Oh-oh, here she cums)
Watch out boy
Shell suck you dry.
(Oh-oh, here she cums)
She's a R-O-B.
Damn, feel like getting ROB by a BG tonight! Just so that I can sing this song. Hehe. Awww....yeah
In the early days of KBs the KBGs were either divorcees, US Armed Forces surplus, or refugees from KAMPS, paying their dues for freedom. Some used to have tattoos as designated properties from the KAMPS and paying their way out of the business. No let them fool you guys; no legit KWahine going work in the KB regardless of their disadvantage (s).
Sik Dj Gugu
04-22-11, 03:22
Would be hilarious you singing it directly to the BG you sitting with. She starts to hound for drinks and up to her tricks / tactics, you sing your ass off.
(Oh-oh, here she cums)
Watch out boy
Shell suck you dry.
(Oh-oh, here she cums)
She's a R-O-B.
Damn, feel like getting ROB by a BG tonight! Just so that I can sing this song. Hehe. Awww....yeahI think a whole bunch of fellows reading this board should sing this song repeatedly at multiple bars over the weekend just to see if a KBG will come over and whisper in your ear "shut the hell up uki!" hahaha at least we'll know then which of them broads are lurkers.
I actually went out with a KBG but I didn't meet her at work. My buddy was dating one of her friends and they wanted company and a chance to play match maker so they set up a double date. We hit it off pretty goood and I didn't find out she was a KBG until after a couple of dates. It was kinda weird at first but I got use to it.
A lot of the girls do it because the money is really good and they don't really have any other type of job skills. My girl did it because she liked living in the US and her dreams of being in the fashion industry here didn't work out. She couldn't get any other job that pays even close to what she makes while working at a korean bar with her limited english.
KBG's are always looking for a way out of the industry. Their only ticket out is to either save enough money and start their own business or meet a guy that makes a lot of money to take care of them. My girls best friend quit the business because she met a really nice dude that pays for rent, a brand new benz and gives her a lot of spending money!
FYI. A lot of these girls have been taken advantage of hurt by other people, especially past boyfriends. That's why they always have a shield up and have a hard time trusting people or men. I know my friend hooked up with one of these girls. She was from new york. She used to work at Casino. He was dating her for a while. When she quite, her customer would pay for rent etc. And a new benz, and 2-3 times a week would call my friend to borrow his poi pounder. I have gotten burned a few times, so I suggest, use them while you can then move on. Unless you have access to there phone you do not know what they really do. Just my 2 cents. Believe me I caught some people in the act.
Yep, it's the bar or sugar daddy. She wouldn't be able to afford rent working in a k-restaurant. The only place where limited english skills might take her, if she's legal. Staying at momma's house is a big economic plus. I wish I could stay at mommas house for free. Her options other than the bar is limited.
As I've said in the past. 100% (here's the %'s again) , have had shitty past relationships. Ex-bf, ex-husband, ex-pimp? . . . Kid baggage. . . They all have mental emotional baggage regarding men. Not to mention the way women are treated in korea. It all adds up to a jaded image of the male. The truth is, it's not their fault they end up this way. But it is your fault if you choose to dance with the devil. The guy who said, the only thing to fear is fear itself, never had a relationship with a kbg. Let me play some songs for you: Looking for love in all the wrong places; Can't buy me love. . . Uv; what love got to do with it; You look like an angel, walk like an angel, talk like an angel, but I got wise, she's the devil in disguise; (Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, here she comes) watch out boy she'll chew you up (Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, here she comes) she's a maneater, maneater. Play this on your ipod just as you start reaching for that Jackson. Hhhmmm don't know about can't buy me love. I think you can buy love 5 minutes at a time with uncle don in the room. LOL!
Unless you have access to there phone you do not know what they really do. Just my 2 cents. Believe me I caught some people in the act.That's what bothered me when I use to see the BG that I liked. I liked her because I didn't see her as just a female to have fun with and bang. That's where I knew I'm in trouble. When I sat with her, her phone would ring and she answers or sometimes don't answer and just look at her phone. It does make me wonder, who called?
Dasearch is right. How do you know what she really does if she at home while you at work or not seeing her? The guys she been talking to and seeing before you met her. The questions that come in your head. Not so bad if I just looked at her for sex. I wouldn't care if someone else did her or doing her. Main thing I get my share or piece of her.
As much as I'm curious to know, would she openly tell me?"Uki baby, I must be honest with you, I went home with several guys or I had them come over because they took me home. I did have sex with them. I gave some BBBJCIM in the backroom and a few HJs at the booth" I don't enjoy doing it but, I got to do what I have to do to get by. Plus, there's a nice LV and Gucci bag I seen that I really wanted to buy.
She wouldn't want to come out and admit that. Why would a BG tell you that? What's worse is I tell someone about her and then the person whom I tell, tells me: "Eh Uki, sorry to tell you this man, I did her already. Sorry to break the news to you bro. Nothing personal man. Oh, I also seen her walking with this guy in Ala Moana. They were holding hands. Oh, by the way, someone on the forum posted about getting play from her to."
That's fucked up! Imagine how sick you would feel?
Hello Kitty
04-22-11, 14:24
Most of the girls that works in the bar has personality disorder.
Most of the girls that works in the bar has personality disorder.Now I understand why my korean friends in grade school were soo f'ed up. One moment they're super nice and the next, trying to take me out, then back again. Its what some of their parents were doing to pay the bills at night- LOL.
That's what bothered me when I use to see the BG that I liked. I liked her because I didn't see her as just a female to have fun with and bang. That's where I knew I'm in trouble. When I sat with her, her phone would ring and she answers or sometimes don't answer and just look at her phone. It does make me wonder, who called?
Dasearch is right. How do you know what she really does if she at home while you at work or not seeing her? The guys she been talking to and seeing before you met her. The questions that come in your head. Not so bad if I just looked at her for sex. I wouldn't care if someone else did her or doing her. Main thing I get my share or piece of her.
As much as I'm curious to know, would she openly tell me?"Uki baby, I must be honest with you, I went home with several guys or I had them come over because they took me home. I did have sex with them. I gave some BBBJCIM in the backroom and a few HJs at the booth" I don't enjoy doing it but, I got to do what I have to do to get by. Plus, there's a nice LV and Gucci bag I seen that I really wanted to buy.
She wouldn't want to come out and admit that. Why would a BG tell you that? What's worse is I tell someone about her and then the person whom I tell, tells me: "Eh Uki, sorry to tell you this man, I did her already. Sorry to break the news to you bro. Nothing personal man. Oh, I also seen her walking with this guy in Ala Moana. They were holding hands. Oh, by the way, someone on the forum posted about getting play from her to."
That's fucked up! Imagine how sick you would feel?
LOL, your situation happens to all of us cause they are one part sex animal (for anyone with enough green to turn them on) and one part human... that's my honest opinion. All i know is, they aren't working at these places to be good girls so assume the worst until proven innocent. Nothing feels better than when you start sort of liking someone and another brother pm's you and asks, so did so and so tell you, she had the best sex ever with you like she did me? Gets you out of the bonehead trance real quick! My favorite lines girls tell me when i tell them they're full of shit - "I wouldn't lie to you, I'm christian" lol.
LOL, your situation happens to all of us cause they are one part sex animal (for anyone with enough green to turn them on) and one part human. That's my honest opinion.
All I know is, they aren't working at these places to be good girls so assume the worst until proven innocent. Yes. Every guy who has connected with the girl thinks or would like to think he's her top man (and I've seen the looks of accomplishment on some guys' faces; after he leaves the next guy has the same look), but the reality is he could be anywhere in the order; 2nd, 9th, 47th.
A couple of times I used that to get a girl who was crying about how slow it was to stop asking for a drink. I said something to the effect of how she has dozens of customers rotating through there, and how that's a lot of money or chances to make money, and a small fish like me doesn't matter. It got through. I think she thought I did not realize how promiscuous they are, as far as pretending to be one guy's honey, and then the next and the next.
Most of the girls that works in the bar has personality disorder.Does any of this sound anything at all like your Friendly Neighborhood Hostess? :
http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/psychopathy_checklist.html
Does any of this sound anything at all like your Friendly Neighborhood Hostess? :
http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/psychopathy_checklist.html
Sounds like a lot of the local girls that go clubbing.
Iliketowatch
04-22-11, 20:30
Yes. Every guy who has connected with the girl thinks or would like to think he's her top man (and I've seen the looks of accomplishment on some guys' faces; after he leaves the next guy has the same look) , but the reality is he could be anywhere in the order; 2nd. 9th. 47th.
A couple of times I used that to get a girl who was crying about how slow it was to stop asking for a drink. I said something to the effect of how she has dozens of customers rotating through there, and how that's a lot of money or chances to make money, and a small fish like me doesn't matter. It got through. I think she thought I did not realize how promiscuous they are, as far as pretending to be one guy's honey, and then the next and the next. The next time a kbg tries to play the relationship card to get you hooked and you start to fall for her ploy, just tell yourself,"why do I want to be with anyone who wants to be with me". I'm a fu*ked up bar goer, so she must not know WTF she doing, too. And if you think you are all that, then don't do the test because you two are a perfect match. Don't bash me for this statement. Honestly, we all know we are relationship misfits, that's why we are in the bars. Ego starved, attention craving, power struggling, hormone exploding, bags of testosterone. If fat guys would just fu*k fat girls, if old guys would just fu*k old girls, if ugly guys would just fu*k ugly girls, etc, we'd all be humping tonight. But no, we all want the model. We don't get turned on by the plain and ugly, well neither does the models. So we deny we are this and that and we chase. That's why the hot girls ones don't hook up with the ugly celebs like donald trump. Oh yah, his wife is pretty. They must like his looks, his charm, his youth, and want nothing to do with his money. Back to square one. If they can put up with him for money, the bg's can put up with too. At least hugh hefner has. . . I better sign off now, before I talk myself into that old, bald, ugly, fat, chick in waipahu.
At least hugh hefner has. . . I better sign off now, before I talk myself into that old, bald, ugly, fat, chick in waipahu.Even she got at least six to a dozen guys chasing her. They all got somebody chasing their a$$.
Hello Kitty
04-23-11, 14:15
Does any of this sound anything at all like your Friendly Neighborhood Hostess? :
http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/psychopathy_checklist.htmlHow about this one. Any of you members had experience with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder
How about this one. Any of you members had experience with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder
Yeah, like JR, girls outside of hostess bars such as clubs and even school back in the day. There was that v-girl at Sandy's who had the scars on her wrists though.
Most of the hostesses I've seen or heard about were more like "Hare's Checklist", "Cleckley's List" or some combination.
I was drinking with a friend recently and we were overhearing 2 guys in the next booth trying to 'score. ' One guy was the 'experienced expert' telling his buddy how he 'knows' how to handle kbgs because he's had a few kbg girlfriends. Its like the guy married 5 times giving relationship advise. Little did they know how we much we enjoyed the entertainment they provided that night. His friend was the one with the hots for the kbg. They were strategizing when the girl went to get drinks ($40heini) or visit other tables. Typical try get girl drunk routine. Nothing wrong with that if you want touchy touchy play but this guy was in LOVE looking for a gf. The try make girl drunk to make them fall in love with you strategy. (VERY POPULAR) They figured since they had the 2 on 1 advantage, they had better chance. WRONG! The guys ran out of $ and got more drunk than the girl. I felt bad for them as they left but then again I know they will back to try again, just like vegas. The girl later came to our table seeing I had no partner and said the usual Hi, how are you may I join you bla bla. I smiled and replied: Did the other table get you drunk enough for me to play with your body tonight? I bought her a drink.
How about this one. Any of you members had experience with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorderI think you can add this too:
http://allpsych.com/disorders/personality/narcissism.html
Man I love this thread. Get to babble, ramble and talk smack hehe. Makes you think. In fact, this thread helped me snap out of getting hooked on a BG. Need more long post Oldee or Iliketowatch or anyone. Getting to focused on BGs and chicks in general clouds the mind. My postings probably would be a different tone if I was burned by a BG.
Oldee, I liked how you mentioned on a previous post about how KBG are like alcohol. That's a good analogy. Don't be a Korean Bargirlaholic. Don't get addicted. Feel the buzz is good enough. Once in a while you'll get drunk like getting full on Robbed by a BG. But, don't get addicted to where you just needy to see that BG everynight. When you get addicted, is when you see a BG as a potential GF and possible future wife. You need a BG or woman like how you need alcohol to make you happy. Without it, you not happy.
For those of you who think you can use "strategy" on a kbg or vbg, think twice. If she likes you then you are in, but if you try to catch her as a customer then you will be out a whole bunch of $$$$$$. KBGees do not like to be pushed into a relationship, unless you will pay their rent, buy them a car, pay for cellphone, blah, blah, blah. They are basically prostitutes and sometimes the guys don't even get any poontang because the girls work them for all the Kala. So wise up and understand that unless she likes you and makes an effort to communicate with you outside of the bar scene, then you are just one more sucker.
Definition of communicating outside of the bar. No need to go there to buy her drinks, she goes to movies and dinner with you and is willing to pay half the time. If you meet her mom or dad then you got one foot in the circle.
She may make you think that you are her BF. You sleep with her, fuk her, eat with her. But in the end she will take your hard earned $$$$$$. I have met only one who was true to me and is still a very good friend. She no longer works as a bg and has a happy relationship with a bf and I am very happy for her. That is very rare.
The only strategy that me and my friends use to think of is leaving the bar and the BGs from having them hound more drinks or do to their tricks to get more drinks. Back then, I wasn't comfortable saying no or cutting the drinks. Therefore, used the getaway method. I would make the move to go bathroom and then step out. Than, my other friend would follow. Unfortunately the 3rd guy was feeling bad to leave. Called him up and asked: "where you at man?" He says: "I'm still sitting with her" I'm like: " Aww man, we outside already" He says: "she's nice that's why, I can't just leave. I'll be out soon. Oh, can I borrow $60? I pay you back" Goodness!
Iliketowatch
04-25-11, 14:08
Oldee, I liked how you mentioned on a previous post about how KBG are like alcohol. That's a good analogy. Don't be a Korean Bargirlaholic. Don't get addicted. Feel the buzz is good enough. Once in a while you'll get drunk like getting full on Robbed by a BG. But, don't get addicted to where you just needy to see that BG everynight. When you get addicted, is when you see a BG as a potential GF and possible future wife. You need a BG or woman like how you need alcohol to make you happy. Without it, you not happy.And if you really get addicted, you'll get caught by the LE (Love Emotion) and you'll get a DUI (Dumb Useless Investment).
Iliketowatch
04-25-11, 14:09
How about this one. Any of you members had experience with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder
Sonya says sounds like you when you drink shots.
Iliketowatch
04-25-11, 14:13
I was drinking with a friend recently and we were overhearing 2 guys in the next booth trying to 'score. ' One guy was the 'experienced expert' telling his buddy how he 'knows' how to handle kbgs because he's had a few kbg girlfriends. Its like the guy married 5 times giving relationship advise. Little did they know how we much we enjoyed the entertainment they provided that night. His friend was the one with the hots for the kbg. They were strategizing when the girl went to get drinks ($40heini) or visit other tables. Typical try get girl drunk routine. Nothing wrong with that if you want touchy touchy play but this guy was in LOVE looking for a gf. The try make girl drunk to make them fall in love with you strategy. (VERY POPULAR) They figured since they had the 2 on 1 advantage, they had better chance. WRONG! The guys ran out of $ and got more drunk than the girl. I felt bad for them as they left but then again I know they will back to try again, just like vegas. The girl later came to our table seeing I had no partner and said the usual Hi, how are you may I join you bla bla. I smiled and replied: Did the other table get you drunk enough for me to play with your body tonight? I bought her a drink.Hey oldee, no tease my friends. The lover boy actually married the girl. His friend would say, brah you lucky you get sex all the time now you married. He would say, F. U, she spent all my money on jewelry and LV, now I no more cash to buy beer. His friend would say, what does beer have to do with sex? He says, I no can get sex if I cannot get her drunk!
The next time a kbg tries to play the relationship card to get you hooked and you start to fall for her ploy, just tell yourself,"why do I want to be with anyone who wants to be with me". I'm a fu*ked up bar goer, so she must not know WTF she doing, too. And if you think you are all that, then don't do the test because you two are a perfect match. Don't bash me for this statement. Honestly, we all know we are relationship misfits, that's why we are in the bars. Ego starved, attention craving, power struggling, hormone exploding, bags of testosterone. If fat guys would just fu*k fat girls, if old guys would just fu*k old girls, if ugly guys would just fu*k ugly girls, etc, we'd all be humping tonight. But no, we all want the model. We don't get turned on by the plain and ugly, well neither does the models. So we deny we are this and that and we chase. That's why the hot girls ones don't hook up with the ugly celebs like donald trump. Oh yah, his wife is pretty. They must like his looks, his charm, his youth, and want nothing to do with his money. Back to square one. If they can put up with him for money, the bg's can put up with too. At least hugh hefner has. . . I better sign off now, before I talk myself into that old, bald, ugly, fat, chick in waipahu.Since we're on the relationship topic anyone want to add their story and with who (optional). I had this one girl (Lina) from Crystal Palace back in the early 80's. She was Korean / Japanese and spoke Ko, Ja & Eng. Fluently. Very sweet girl and IMHO not the typical KBG. She did not leech off me for drinks and if she had other clients she would keep her time with them short. I did not try to push myself on her even when she was drunk then one night she pulled me into one of the rooms and went berserk on me, stripped off her clothes and mounted me CG. Then the BT walked in. I haven't seen her for 2 years after that and when I did I saw her at Kmart with a little girl. She was a single mom and moved to Korea shortly after. No, the kid wasn't mine. I used to see a girl@Stargazer (I know it's not a KB) named Suzy, she was also sweet to me but had a nasty twist. She liked to be strongly manhandled sometimes tied up. Did not look to good in a car if LE ever approached. Then was Club Rose, mid 80's, Tina who says she's from Japan. She was one of those off and on ROBs. One night she would be all out horny in the booth and other nights she would be too busy traveling from table to table just robbing drinks. I noticed in the early 90's a rise in girls looking for green cards. Those were scary times. When a girl you never sat with would come up to you and say "I miss my period. Oh, solly wong guy."
Iliketowatch
04-25-11, 15:43
Here the top 20 strategies guys use in the bars.
Do you know someone who already has this book and is applying it's sure-shot methods?
1) THE KB IDOL GUY = Sings all night long. Got to get attention somehow. Loves Susan Boyle, oh there she is, no that's Chicken Alice. Thinks music can sooth the savage beast. 2 bucks at a time.
2) THE BIRD OR ROACH GUY = Pick up the crumps when the lights go out. I neva buy you drink but I can give you a ride home. Sniffs the car seat when he gets home.
3) THE DON JUAN GUY = Always chasing the hottest one in the bar. Never gets nani but enjoys the other customers seeing the bit*h with him. Usually the deaf guy, because he can't hear the other customers saying he's getting played.
4) THE SOUP KITCHEN GUY = After work guys taking advantage of the girls who are not hot enough to work the night shift. Eat for cheap because the girls only assets these days is their cooking.
5) THE HIGH ROLLER GUY = Usually the room guy. Has the cash. Spends for what he gets in life. Even leaves money on his nightstand for himself when he gives himself a handjob.
6) THE CHUMMER / FISHERMAN GUY = Brings the girls food to attract the catch. Usually overweight guy with no looks. Yes fat, because he knows food and food got him.
7) THE WHEN PIGS FLY GUY = Usually the quiet one in the group. Most definitely bald. Knows he has no chance with any girl, but waits patiently and watches the news weather report because several girls told him he can screw them when hell freezes over.
8) THE LONER GUY = Sits at the end of the bar. Pervert central. Doesn't want his friends to know how disgusting he really is. Poof he's gone. No he's not. He's at the back table with the 50 year old skank.
9) THE DAMAGED GOODS GUY = The guy who was in love and got taken. Buys girls drinks, but always gives them a hard time. Hey if they can put up with this crap I'm shoveling, maybe, just maybe, this one is different and she really loves me.
10) THE CAN'T FIND LOVE GUY = Attracts girls with drinks but, always put the girls down. Likes to hate on the girl. Hey don't say you hate me, because I hated you 1st.
11) THE SPECIAL (ED) GUY = Thinks he is special because he takes her shopping, movies, dinners and most important of all, he buys her drinks at the bar because it's her job. Should've been in the "other" class in school.
12) THE SOAP OPERA GUY = Sits at the bar, no need watch channel 5, the real life drama in the bar trumps anything on tv. Most harmless of all the guys. Goes to the doctor for viagra, and the doctor says, I think it's dead. Try taking 1 pill before sex and if your erection last for more than 4 seconds, call me.
13) THE POLITICAN GUY = Only one drink a every bar in town. Itchy ass, always on the move. Doesn't want to fall for being taken by one girl, so he gets taken from all the girls.
14) THE VERIZON GUY = Ring, ring, where you stay. Sorry guys, I got to go, she said it's real important. Her life might be at stake.
15) THE NICE GUY = No touch, no feel, no swear, no talk about sex. Want the girl to respect him. Usually owns the largest adult dvd collection in the state.
16) THE MACHO GUY = 24 fitness nut. Wears cut-off sleeve t-shirts. Common phrase sitting at the bar,"What, who you looking at, like step outside?" Rambo always got the girl, so why can't I?
17) THE CLOSET PERV = Tries to act civilized, but has alterior motives. Usually seen giving girls massages. Closest he'll ever get to putting his hands on a chick.
18) THE BROWN NOSE GUY = got to kiss up to the boss, maybe she put in a good word for me. Buys mama drinks. Mama puts in good word for him. Hey Suki, sit with this guy, easy money.
19) THE ROMANTIC GUY = Wear nice clothes, buys the girl flowers. Get to see her walk out of the bar at closing with another guy who spent more carrying his flowers. She must like me, she didn't throw the flowers away.
20) And last. . . THE FRUSTRATED GUY = No get no touchy-feely anymore, too old. No get no attention, too bald. No get no sex, too ugly. No get no anything at all, too fat. He just has to write on this site about his 20 favorite bar buddies.
Here the top 20 strategies guys use in the bars.
Do you know someone who already has this book and is applying it's sure-shot methods?
1) THE KB IDOL GUY = Sings all night long. Got to get attention somehow. Loves Susan Boyle, oh there she is, no that's Chicken Alice. Thinks music can sooth the savage beast. 2 bucks at a time.
2) THE BIRD OR ROACH GUY = Pick up the crumps when the lights go out. I neva buy you drink but I can give you a ride home. Sniffs the car seat when he gets home.
3) THE DON JUAN GUY = Always chasing the hottest one in the bar. Never gets nani but enjoys the other customers seeing the bit*h with him. Usually the deaf guy, because he can't hear the other customers saying he's getting played.
4) THE SOUP KITCHEN GUY = After work guys taking advantage of the girls who are not hot enough to work the night shift. Eat for cheap because the girls only assets these days is their cooking.
5) THE HIGH ROLLER GUY = Usually the room guy. Has the cash. Spends for what he gets in life. Even leaves money on his nightstand for himself when he gives himself a handjob.
6) THE CHUMMER / FISHERMAN GUY = Brings the girls food to attract the catch. Usually overweight guy with no looks. Yes fat, because he knows food and food got him.
7) THE WHEN PIGS FLY GUY = Usually the quiet one in the group. Most definitely bald. Knows he has no chance with any girl, but waits patiently and watches the news weather report because several girls told him he can screw them when hell freezes over.
8) THE LONER GUY = Sits at the end of the bar. Pervert central. Doesn't want his friends to know how disgusting he really is. Poof he's gone. No he's not. He's at the back table with the 50 year old skank.
9) THE DAMAGED GOODS GUY = The guy who was in love and got taken. Buys girls drinks, but always gives them a hard time. Hey if they can put up with this crap I'm shoveling, maybe, just maybe, this one is different and she really loves me.
10) THE CAN'T FIND LOVE GUY = Attracts girls with drinks but, always put the girls down. Likes to hate on the girl. Hey don't say you hate me, because I hated you 1st.
11) THE SPECIAL (ED) GUY = Thinks he is special because he takes her shopping, movies, dinners and most important of all, he buys her drinks at the bar because it's her job. Should've been in the "other" class in school.
12) THE SOAP OPERA GUY = Sits at the bar, no need watch channel 5, the real life drama in the bar trumps anything on tv. Most harmless of all the guys. Goes to the doctor for viagra, and the doctor says, I think it's dead. Try taking 1 pill before sex and if your erection last for more than 4 seconds, call me.
13) THE POLITICAN GUY = Only one drink a every bar in town. Itchy ass, always on the move. Doesn't want to fall for being taken by one girl, so he gets taken from all the girls.
14) THE VERIZON GUY = Ring, ring, where you stay. Sorry guys, I got to go, she said it's real important. Her life might be at stake.
15) THE NICE GUY = No touch, no feel, no swear, no talk about sex. Want the girl to respect him. Usually owns the largest adult dvd collection in the state.
16) THE MACHO GUY = 24 fitness nut. Wears cut-off sleeve t-shirts. Common phrase sitting at the bar,"What, who you looking at, like step outside?" Rambo always got the girl, so why can't I?
17) THE CLOSET PERV = Tries to act civilized, but has alterior motives. Usually seen giving girls massages. Closest he'll ever get to putting his hands on a chick.
18) THE BROWN NOSE GUY = got to kiss up to the boss, maybe she put in a good word for me. Buys mama drinks. Mama puts in good word for him. Hey Suki, sit with this guy, easy money.
19) THE ROMANTIC GUY = Wear nice clothes, buys the girl flowers. Get to see her walk out of the bar at closing with another guy who spent more carrying his flowers. She must like me, she didn't throw the flowers away.
20) And last. . . THE FRUSTRATED GUY = No get no touchy-feely anymore, too old. No get no attention, too bald. No get no sex, too ugly. No get no anything at all, too fat. He just has to write on this site about his 20 favorite bar buddies. Okay, okay after laughing behind my phone almost in tears. Oh, my coworker noticed I was laughing by myself. I must be honest. Some of what's listed I fall under to. LOL. Cmon now, let's be serious. I would be utterly lying if I said I don't fall into any one on the list. As I read some, I was like: "oh Shit, thats me right there!" *sigh* I was like putting my head down at work. Like an Ostrich putting its head in the ground.
LOL, I love that book! Seen the new BONUS EDITION with 5 extra strategies. 21) THE NO CAN SAY NO GUY. He buying drinks for the one he no like and wishing he can sit with the one drinking on the other table. Maybe next time he going get his chance to get R O. Er, I mean opportunity to charm the one he really like. Just need need to go bar enough times and maybe. 22) THE SMART 24/7 TAXI GUY. He wisely hardly goes bar but gets the 'previlege' of taking the bg to and from work as well as shopping and errands. He's the envy of many a bargoer as he is ALMOST her real boyfriend! 23) THE PAY DATE GUY. He take bg on fancy date to expensive restaurants and even a 'little' shopping. He makes up for the lost cash she would have made that night at the bar too. He's the proud guy in the fancy restaurant showing off his hot date. 24) THE BUY EVERYBODY A ROUND GUY. He buys everyone (2 bartenders and barbacks) a drink soon as he sits down at the bar including other customers he don't know next to him. Very popular guy that I like to be around. Maybe some girl will notice how generous he is and he can score. 25) THE I'm DIFFERENT GUY. He tells the girl how he is not like all the other guys and how LUCKY she is to be with him. The whole conversation is about how different he is as he buys her many drinks throughout the night. He is very different from me at least, LOL. Hey ILTW, can you sign my book? I bought 2 copies of your book afterall.
Iliketowatch
04-25-11, 18:39
Okay, okay after laughing behind my phone almost in tears. Oh, my coworker noticed I was laughing by myself. I must be honest. Some of what's listed I fall under to. LOL. Cmon now, let's be serious. I would be utterly lying if I said I don't fall into any one on the list. As I read some, I was like: "oh Shit, thats me right there!" *sigh* I was like putting my head down at work. Like an Ostrich putting its head in the ground.How did the car seat smell?
How did the car seat smell?Let me get back to you on this. My head Is still in the ground.
Since we're on the relationship topic anyone want to add their story and with who (optional). I had this one girl (Lina) from Crystal Palace back in the early 80's. She was Korean / Japanese and spoke Ko, Ja & Eng. Fluently. Very sweet girl and IMHO not the typical KBG. She did not leech off me for drinks and if she had other clients she would keep her time with them short. I did not try to push myself on her even when she was drunk then one night she pulled me into one of the rooms and went berserk on me, stripped off her clothes and mounted me CG. Then the BT walked in. I haven't seen her for 2 years after that and when I did I saw her at Kmart with a little girl. She was a single mom and moved to Korea shortly after. No, the kid wasn't mine. I used to see a girl@Stargazer (I know it's not a KB) named Suzy, she was also sweet to me but had a nasty twist. She liked to be strongly manhandled sometimes tied up. Did not look to good in a car if LE ever approached. Then was Club Rose, mid 80's, Tina who says she's from Japan. She was one of those off and on ROBs. One night she would be all out horny in the booth and other nights she would be too busy traveling from table to table just robbing drinks. I noticed in the early 90's a rise in girls looking for green cards. Those were scary times. When a girl you never sat with would come up to you and say "I miss my period. Oh, solly wong guy."Thanks for the report. This is good stuff and deserves to be bumped up in case guys missed it reading too much of the book stuff.
Buck N Ham
04-26-11, 05:01
Here the top 20 strategies guys use in the bars.
LMFAO!
Think I'm a hybrid of several guys you mentioned. Great list to ponder and now match up against those I see at KBs. Good post. Thanks!
CheapCharlie
04-26-11, 09:01
Since we're on the relationship topic anyone want to add their story and with who (optional). I had this one girl (Lina) from Crystal Palace back in the early 80's. She was Korean / Japanese and spoke Ko, Ja & Eng. Fluently. Very sweet girl and IMHO not the typical KBG. She did not leech off me for drinks and if she had other clients she would keep her time with them short. I did not try to push myself on her even when she was drunk then one night she pulled me into one of the rooms and went berserk on me, stripped off her clothes and mounted me CG. Then the BT walked in. I haven't seen her for 2 years after that and when I did I saw her at Kmart with a little girl. She was a single mom and moved to Korea shortly after. No, the kid wasn't mine. I used to see a girl@Stargazer (I know it's not a KB) named Suzy, she was also sweet to me but had a nasty twist. She liked to be strongly manhandled sometimes tied up. Did not look to good in a car if LE ever approached. Then was Club Rose, mid 80's, Tina who says she's from Japan. She was one of those off and on ROBs. One night she would be all out horny in the booth and other nights she would be too busy traveling from table to table just robbing drinks. I noticed in the early 90's a rise in girls looking for green cards. Those were scary times. When a girl you never sat with would come up to you and say "I miss my period. Oh, solly wong guy."Suzy still working, at Club Sandys and now goes by Shasha / Sandy. Total nut case and full on wh*re! Read all my posts about her in SB section.
How did the car seat smell?Wasn't what I expected actually. I told my friend the next day I was smelling the passenger seat when I went home. Then he said: "Eh dude, you dropped me home afterwards. We went to go eat after. I was the last person who rode in your car" I was like: "Hah? Not!" Then he started cracking up laughing. He sometimes brings it up and rubs it in."Hey, remember the time you told me you was smelling the passenger seat?" Then I tell him: "Eh, shut the hell up man!"
Suzy still working, at Club Sandys and now goes by Shasha / Sandy. Total nut case and full on wh*re! Read all my posts about her in SB section.I noticed a lot of the old timers, KBG who's still in the biz, goes schitzos when they age. Opposite from us mongers who started as schitzos and learn the calls of nature.
Ok, let me share some stuff for those of you that may be depressed if ILTW's strategy book described you, at least partially, hehe. This is ONLY for you guys that don't choose who you sit with and usually buy for ANY girl that sits on your table and they wernt your first choice. (usually shy, new, or don't care kbgoers). You often regret they were your partner (s). You also shame to ask the hot girl directly to sit with you. You settle for what is thrown at you in terms of choice. I'd like to humbly suggest another option. THE WAITING FOR FRIEND STALL. Sometimes when going with a drinking buddy (s) and you want to sit with the girls but don't KNOW IF you like the girls that first come to your table, I used to use this line. I tell the girls we might not stay long because we are waiting for our friend (non existant or kbg that might be later) and not sure if was this bar or another bar but you can take our drink order. The alternative to this is order directly from the bar yourself and pick a table to sit. This gives you time to check them out if promising or not if they sit with you. Even if they don't and they check on other tables or they go their own booth, you can also check on other girls you may want to sit / play with and you havnt bought any LDs yet. Use this window of time wisely. They may try and hustle drinks right away but its easy to say no as you havnt really decided if you going drink there yet. You can get ALOT of intel in a short time. Do they have other customers and may table hop? Do they play with their iphones and look bored in their own booth? How is their english? Seem friendly? Etc etc. What about the other girls in the bar, any other promising looking ones that looks free? At this point you are not obligated to buy anyone a drink yet. Your options are that you can sit with the ones first served your table, leave to hunt at another bar, continue drinking and not buying LD, or pick more promising girls. (do this when original bgs not at your table). They probably won't be if you didn't buy LD. If the ones you like got more than 1 table, I'd wait for another day or later in the night when they might be more free. Alter all of the above to fit your own style and tactics. Most guys can tell within 5 minutes if they connect with a bg or not. This gives you that time without paying $20 in most cases to find out. It may or may not work for you and is just a suggestion tactic or motivate you to think of a better one.
Happy Hunting guys
Iliketowatch
04-27-11, 18:10
21) THE I CAN"T LET MY FRIENDS KNOW HOW I REALLY FEEL GUY = Hey, let's go to so and so bar! No, I not like go there, cause so and so is going to attack me. OK, stay here then, we going. He follows reluctantly (all for show) , and when he gets there, he's smiling and buying her 10 drinks. WTF. I'll tell you WTF. He doesn't want is friends to know he's in love with her. Lying to drinking buddies. . . Major sin. He says they go out to Ala Moana and she even pays for lunch. Truth is, he is regretting not getting the BBQ sauce with his 4 piece McNuggets. He says she doesn't ask him to but her expensive stuff. Truth is, he always buys it for her before she has a chance to ask. His day is never complete without a text from her saying I miss you. Truth is, texts are free, but reminding you to come see me again tonight is priceless (the higher my drink PRICE, the LESS you got). Thing is, no lie to your friends. It's OK if they bust your balls when you tell'them your in love. Not having balls in life might just solve your problem. Anyway, blue is not your color!
I noticed a lot of the old timers, KBG who's still in the biz, goes schitzos when they age. Opposite from us mongers who started as schitzos and learn the calls of nature.Good point man. Women do panic as they get older. It's innevitable that everyone ages but, BGs know they need to take advantage of their youth as much as possible. Make as much $ while they still have their youth / looks. BGs have mentioned that they don't want to be doing what they doing for the rest of their life. I'd be panicking to if I was an old BG still working in a bar trying to get by. I'm being ignored when young and old guys go for the younger girls.
Aflack mentioned in a previous post:
43+ years of K & VB meanderings do not make a smart OG.Yup. Just because you go K & VB bars for so many years doesn't necessarily make you wise or wiser. You can be going bars and still do the same thing and not listen. Becoming wise or wiser is someone who is able to listen and heed advice. But, you know most guys thinking: "No need tell me what to do. I know what I doing!" I learn to not get burn or be caught up in these BGs by listening and heed advice from guys who been through it.
Iliketowatch
04-27-11, 20:37
I noticed a lot of the old timers, KBG who's still in the biz, goes schitzos when they age. Opposite from us mongers who started as schitzos and learn the calls of nature.They say money is the root of all evil. We who go to these bars all have agricultural degrees. We fertilize the new girls to become beautiful roses. Making sure we water them (literally, water shots). Looking pretty in their new clothes and bags. Smelling good in their designer perfume. But with all roses, once you pick it, you start to notice all the thorns and its false beauty. Try to hold it tightly and you get stuck. With age, their appeal slowly wilts away. The lucky farmer's get away with only minor scratches, only to fertilize another crop. The unfortunate ones, run out of miracle grow, and are destined to pull their own plow (left hand tonight, right hand tomorrow). So wake up and just smell the roses, and don't try to harvest one unless you are bishop estate which has a lot of land to sell.
Iliketowatch
04-27-11, 21:25
1) Charity fund raising event.
2) Dog park.
3) Woman of the year awards dinner.
4) Concert.
5) Wine tasting event.
6) Office / vendor party.
7) PTA Meeting.
8) Cooking class.
9) Academy of Arts exhibit.
10) Korean bar.
I view my list from 1-10, if you view the list from 10-1, then maybe you should consider my best alternatives:
1) Woman's prisoner pen pal.
2) Crack house residents.
3) Any chick pushing a shopping cart at 12 midnight.
4) Motorcycle bar waitress.
5) Octomom Nadia Suliman.
Unlucky in love. Maybe it's not how you are looking, but where you are looking. Leave to bars for us pervs. Your giving the kb business a bad name, by not making them work for their $. I keep telling you guys remember where you are. We need to keep telling the girls, remember where they are. It's a perverted, grab-ass, tit-tasting bar, not a personal tsunami charity event. Regardless if they can prove they are radioactive.
I'll be honest here. There are times I feel like this with certain bars. But, it's not because I'm into the BG emotionally. It's that temptation to want to get physical with her again. If I sat with a BG I got physical with, hard to say no because it feels good holding her, caressing her boob and kissing her. If she comes by, hard to say no because part of me wants to get touchy touchy with her again and get a boner. LOL. But, if its just a BG who comes by to sit down and talk story, no problem saying no to buying her a drink. Not going to buy her a drink simply because I feel bad or for a good luck drink. Not enough incentive. I want to be conservative and not buy drinks but, if she starts rubbing between my legs. It's hard.
As far as lieing to friends, the fact is most guys don't want to look bad in front of another guy. You know, looking bad when you admit the stupid things you do. You don't want to be the guy to be picked on in the group. That's why, guys prefer to open up to women more than men. If he tells a guy friend, depending on his friend, he doesn't want to be put on the spot and be teased, lectured or scolded. He knows or should I say feel his guy friend (s) are going to bash on him. Women are more understanding and don't blatantly tease like how men do. With the guys, you want to display your studdly, macho manliness with them. I heard from female friends come out and mention things that guys tell them. Things like still being a virgin or crying to the them about his gf. Most guys wouldn't want to mention this type of stuff to another guy.
Speaking for myself, I enjoy hostess bars, always have. Everyone got their own reasons they go and I respect that. Even those guys that spend mega $ and don't even touch the girls I respect. Its for their OWN reasons and who am I to be critical of them? I may get more play for less $ but I am not better than them. They may enjoy something I am not smart enough to fathom and understand. (god knows what I have no clue). Still, its THEIR CHOICE and their business, not mine. They play the hostess bar game with an invisible set in stone rules and tactics set by bars and bargirls. Most of you know the bar culture protocals and what means what etc right? Do not underestimate their rules of the game. It is almost exclsively aimed at fooling the customer into THINKING he is playing his own game. The typical example being the more drinks you buy the more the girl will like you. NOT TRUE! It also encompasses all your actions and reactions from A to Z. Everything you do and say has a counter move and predictable. When you look around in the bar you see both guys and girls playing the SAME GAME. House always wins. Having said the above, and speaking for myself, I differ than some in that I go for my own reasons play BOTH, MY OWN GAME and for my OWN reasons. This works for me and I enjoy myself. I have my own rules and own tactics. I do things out of their A to Z rules and tactics. Typical example being messing with their minds instead of their NORMAL messing with the customer's. Oddly enough, I play the same game with bgirls as I do with civilians. I respect them and don't see them as my enemy actually, never have. Maybe I'm weird but this works for me. Any of you guys think like me? I just wanted to ask you guys this question. What game do you REALLY play with the bgirls?
I noticed a lot of the old timers, KBG who's still in the biz, goes schitzos when they age. Opposite from us mongers who started as schitzos and learn the calls of nature.KBGs typically do not age well as do the other Asians. The obvious reasons are, but not limited to: alcohol, tobacco, KB lifestyle in general. Believe it is also acquired: camping outdoors on the plains and steppes, exposure to the elements, and trying to get milk from bulls balls.
I'll be honest here. There are times I feel like this with certain bars. But, it's not because I'm into the BG emotionally. It's that temptation to want to get physical with her again. If I sat with a BG I got physical with, hard to say no because it feels good holding her, caressing her boob and kissing her. If she comes by, hard to say no because part of me wants to get touchy touchy with her again and get a boner. LOL. But, if its just a BG who comes by to sit down and talk story, no problem saying no to buying her a drink. Not going to buy her a drink simply because I feel bad or for a good luck drink. Not enough incentive. I want to be conservative and not buy drinks but, if she starts rubbing between my legs. It's hard.
As far as lieing to friends, the fact is most guys don't want to look bad in front of another guy. You know, looking bad when you admit the stupid things you do. You don't want to be the guy to be picked on in the group. That's why, guys prefer to open up to women more than men. If he tells a guy friend, depending on his friend, he doesn't want to be put on the spot and be teased, lectured or scolded. He knows or should I say feel his guy friend (s) are going to bash on him. Women are more understanding and don't blatantly tease like how men do. With the guys, you want to display your studdly, macho manliness with them. I heard from female friends come out and mention things that guys tell them. Things like still being a virgin or crying to the them about his gf. Most guys wouldn't want to mention this type of stuff to another guy.Yeah, the women got more class, they tease and laugh at you behind your back, LOL.
Speaking for myself, I enjoy hostess bars, always have. Everyone got their own reasons they go and I respect that. Even those guys that spend mega $ and don't even touch the girls I respect. Its for their OWN reasons and who am I to be critical of them? I may get more play for less $ but I am not better than them. They may enjoy something I am not smart enough to fathom and understand. (god knows what I have no clue). Still, its THEIR CHOICE and their business, not mine. They play the hostess bar game with an invisible set in stone rules and tactics set by bars and bargirls. Most of you know the bar culture protocals and what means what etc right? Do not underestimate their rules of the game. It is almost exclsively aimed at fooling the customer into THINKING he is playing his own game. The typical example being the more drinks you buy the more the girl will like you. NOT TRUE! It also encompasses all your actions and reactions from A to Z. Everything you do and say has a counter move and predictable. When you look around in the bar you see both guys and girls playing the SAME GAME. House always wins. Having said the above, and speaking for myself, I differ than some in that I go for my own reasons play BOTH, MY OWN GAME and for my OWN reasons. This works for me and I enjoy myself. I have my own rules and own tactics. I do things out of their A to Z rules and tactics. Typical example being messing with their minds instead of their NORMAL messing with the customer's. Oddly enough, I play the same game with bgirls as I do with civilians. I respect them and don't see them as my enemy actually, never have. Maybe I'm weird but this works for me. Any of you guys think like me? I just wanted to ask you guys this question. What game do you REALLY play with the bgirls?The video game by the entrance door at Camelot. I just like to sit there play the touch screen game and watch the girls walk in and out. I try stare at them and smile hoping they look my way but, they just keep a straight face and just walk by. Chonga, Bobby and Brian get irritated when I hog the seat and block the way when the girls want to get cigarette by the ATM.
Iliketowatch
04-28-11, 15:06
Any of you guys think like me? I just wanted to ask you guys this question. What game do you REALLY play with the bgirls?Hey Oldee, might not be a good idea to let out your game plan. The kb's might be lurking on this site. But kb's on this site may only be a rumor, so I will divulge a little secret. I sure hope no girls are reading this or I'll be in deep sh*t. My millionaire uncle has a trust that states, for every kb I sleep with (at least a 4 hour session of sex) , he will give them a million dollars. Catch is, I cannot buy them a single drink. They must willing ask for sex. Since the kb's are so shy about sex, I have created a password to let me know they want me now. The password is,"can I have a good luck drink". So girls if you want to get rich, just whisper this in my ear and we're off to my shack. If any of you mongers hear this password form any girl, she just thinks you are me. Don't lead her on by making her think you are me. Men don't play games like this in a kb.
Iliketowatch
04-28-11, 15:46
You know I like to just F around on this site. But seriously. The best game plan anyone can have is. . . Knowing one game plan doesn't work for everyone. You must figure out what makes each individual girl tick. She wants cash, then offer it. She wants looks, then offer that (if you got it) , never works for me. She wants security, offers that. Everyone has their weak point. Everyone has their motives. The hard part is figuring out what it is. Sometimes you got to buy drinks to figure it out. Sometimes you don't. But unless you figure it out, then you are just inviting frustration. One size doesn't fit all. Hate the hats that say this, never fits my fat head. OK, back to the serious. It's not a game, it's understanding the mind of the working kb. Papio likes squid, Talapia likes worms, Mempachi likes shrimp, but you come to the bar only with "bread" (literally and figuratively) you will limit your catch to the bottom feeders. The truth is, they are masters at stealing the bait. Maybe that's why women get crabs. Ok, back to the subject. If you CANNOT give her wants she wants, then move on. If you are not WILLING to give her want she wants, move on. If you (add your own word here) what she wants, move on, because she won't give you what you want. Just remember, when you do catch one and bring her home, you mom will say, where you caught this rubbish fish from? You should have just thro them back in the ocean.
Not really disagreeing with you ILTW, but for me its a game, hobby or whatever you want to call it. Its an entertainment one at that and kind of depends on your objectives imo. I do not hunt for girlfriends or any type of relationship and thats where I part company from those that do. I pretty much treat it like a vegas trip, just go to enjoy and come back home that night or morning IF you get lucky. Thats a big advantage imo as you are not apt to be victim to LUST IS BLIND syndrome and actually more able to see the girls more clearly for who they really are. I can adapt to the differences and situations that arise more easily than someone emotionally involved. Its VERY common to see the OTHER GUYS or friends falling for the rob and we wonder why the hell he in lust with her for? There isn't a bargoer alive or dead that hasnt seen this. I don't expect to hit the mega bucks slots at vegas nor expect or even try to get laid when I go bar. However, when the crap table is hot, sometimes you get lucky and you keep throwing the dice. When opportunies arise. Sometimes you can work your mojo and get lucky. I hunt civilians the same way, (I'm ambidextrous) which means being aware and adaptable. You just never know what might happen at anytime or place. Sometimes you might be in the mood for that 5 drink BJ and other times just take in a vegas show. I like vegas but wouldn't want to live there, always want to come back home. I don't go vegas to specifically win the mega bucks but might drop a dollar or 2 trying just to see. I don't go bar to specifically get laid by the hottie but might buy a drink or 2 just to see. I think ILTW and I agree more than not except I'm a trolling fisherman (yes I'm a fisherman) and he is more shorecaster. We use more fake 'lures' and less fresh bait. Anyhow, thats just MY approach not saying its any better than anybody's. I am STILL Level 2 Stupid and have alot to learn. [Indecipherable Text deleted by Admin]
Not really disagreeing with you ILTW, but for me its a game, hobby or whatever you want to call it. Its an entertainment one at that and kind of depends on your objectives imo. I do not hunt for girlfriends or any type of relationship and thats where I part company from those that do. I pretty much treat it like a vegas trip, just go to enjoy and come back home that night or morning IF you get lucky. Thats a big advantage imo as you are not apt to be victim to LUST IS BLIND syndrome and actually more able to see the girls more clearly for who they really are. I can adapt to the differences and situations that arise more easily than someone emotionally involved. Its VERY common to see the OTHER GUYS or friends falling for the rob and we wonder why the hell he in lust with her for? There isn't a bargoer alive or dead that hasnt seen this. I don't expect to hit the mega bucks slots at vegas nor expect or even try to get laid when I go bar. However, when the crap table is hot, sometimes you get lucky and you keep throwing the dice. When opportunies arise. Sometimes you can work your mojo and get lucky. I hunt civilians the same way, (I'm ambidextrous) which means being aware and adaptable. You just never know what might happen at anytime or place. Sometimes you might be in the mood for that 5 drink BJ and other times just take in a vegas show. I like vegas but wouldn't want to live there, always want to come back home. I don't go vegas to specifically win the mega bucks but might drop a dollar or 2 trying just to see. I don't go bar to specifically get laid by the hottie but might buy a drink or 2 just to see. I think ILTW and I agree more than not except I'm a trolling fisherman (yes I'm a fisherman) and he is more shorecaster. We use more fake 'lures' and less fresh bait. Anyhow, thats just MY approach not saying its any better than anybody's. I am STILL Level 2 Stupid and have alot to learn. [Indecipherable Text deleted by Admin]Sorry, in more or less proper engish, this was the last part. Excuse me Mr. ILTW, but can you refrain from goofing off during work hours here, otherwise I will inform your superier. Keep io mind how it would be said in pigeon english, LOL.
Maybe I'm weird but this works for me. Any of you guys think like me? I just wanted to ask you guys this question. What game do you REALLY play with the bgirls?I guess I'm wierd too. It depends on which fastfood joint I go. Sometimes I feel like the King and want some flame broiled WHOPPERS. Sometimes I want some fingerlicking good stuff or some Louisiana fast spiceyness. We all like the clown with the 2 all beef patties and special sauce! Oh, sorry, were we talking about plate lunch?
The kb's might be lurking on this site. But kb's on this site may only be a rumor, so I will divulge a little secret. I sure hope no girls are reading this or I'll be in deep sh*t. My millionaire uncle has a trust that states, for every kb I sleep with (at least a 4 hour session of sex) , he will give them a million dollars. Catch is, I cannot buy them a single drink. They must willing ask for sex. Since the kb's are so shy about sex, I have created a password to let me know they want me now. The password is,"can I have a good luck drink". So girls if you want to get rich, just whisper this in my ear and we're off to my shack. If any of you mongers hear this password form any girl, she just thinks you are me. Don't lead her on by making her think you are me. Men don't play games like this in a kb.I'll try to remember all that :).
Iliketowatch
04-29-11, 19:36
Not really disagreeing with you ILTW, but for me its a game, hobby or whatever you want to call it. I think ILTW and I agree more than not.Us old timers see most everything in the same light. We've been through the good times, battles, and now the tail end of the kb business. I think our advise (if you can call it that) , is aimed at the newbies asking for direction. Again, if you read the past posts (go back thru the years of posts) , there is valuable info posted. Everyone has something to say from their point of view. It's just their opinion, nobody is force feeding you. If it clicks with you, then store it, if it doesn't then just bash the guy (just kidding) , then just throw it to the wind. The old guys had to go school everyday. You new guys have the opportunity to skip some grades. The smart kid is giving you his notes. No repeat a grade over and over like us veterans. By the time you know it, you'll be old and graduating with a bunch of young kids. Hey, maybe that's why I like the young ones. Anyways, do what you feel you got to do if it makes you happy. If your not happy, get a GED, because the kbg's got their phd in male behavior from an Ivy league school, and to be educated by them the hard way will cost you a hefty tuition.
[Indecipherable Text deleted by Admin]Hey Oldee, I told you no right pigeon. Jackson spending too much time translating your wisdom.
Iliketowatch
04-30-11, 21:28
No think I was goin let the honey's get away free. Time to roast our favorite princesses like one garlic on the yakiniku flame. Newbies, pay attention, so you can immediately recognize what situation you are dealing with.
My favorite KBG profiles:
1) THE SILENT BOB-BIE GIRL = No speaka linglish. Usually cute girl. Customer says,"Want to have a drink?" She shrugs with blank look. Customer makes hand jester towards mouth. She smiles and gets drink. Customer says,"Let's have sex?" She shrugs with blank look. Customer says,"Can I feel up your dress?" She shrugs with blank look. Customers says,"You know any english?" She shrugs with blank look. Customer says,"Nice meeting you, we have to go." She says,"We can go to the room if you buy me champagne and maybe you can get lucky, handsome old man." Keith Stone meet Rosetta Stone.
2) THE MRS. JOHNNY BAREND GIRL = Usually hot girl. You sit with her and before the bell rings, wham, she get you in one head lock. Then she reaches behind her and tags her partner from outside the ropes. But she no leave the ring. The two bit*hes working you over at the same time. You call for Wally Tetsumi, but he's being distracted (My mom hated that). Before you know it, One, Two, Three shots, and ding, ding ding, it's over. You leave the Civic thinking, was this real?
3) THE VELCRO GIRL = Family owns velcro franchise in korea. Usually the bar flirt. Promises the world. Known to wear skirts just above her calves. Strategic move. If you no can see her thighs, then you no can see the velcro between her knees. Industrial strength. Can lash 10 samoans to one tanka during the eddie. You can neva pull it apart. Only with time, will the velcro wear down. This gives family enough time to save money to buy the crazy glue franchise.
4) THE RESIDENT PSYCHO = Most fear animal in the kingdom. Neva know when going snap. Like one 3 year old forgotten bottle of spoiled kim chee in the back of your frig. Ready to burst it's lid without warning. No make eye contact. Oh no she saw you staring at her. Friends dig out early and leave you behind. They got to get up early to catch the morning news to see if the chalk mark on the floor matches your body when you tell her you ran out of money.
5) THE GAME MACHINE GIRL = Usually older girl. Age has taken it's toll. No customers every night. But got to save face with the girls, so they camp out at the game machine to look busy. They want to believe they still have some game left in them. But when they stare up at the right hand corner of the screen. A grim reminder lurks. 0 Credits left.
6) THE I'll NEVA DO THAT GIRL = Usually seen with ILTW. Showing him personally what she would neva do. Try show me that again, faster, harder, bam, nap time. Next time can you show me what you would neva do in the room. I wish! Often seen in kalihi or pearl city when she's over 50, showing other people what she would neva do.
7) THE CORDUROY GIRL = The fat one, that thinks she's skinny. Likes the big customers cause they make her look small. Cannot see the trees in the forest cause she's blocking it. Every Sunday she wears corduroy pants. Tight to the bone (or fat). Then when she walks from table to table, she always looks behind her. Can't figure out what that noise is. Zip, zip, zip. Stop, no noise. Start, zip, zip, zip. Momma need to replace the carpet, it's making a funny rubbing noise.
8) THE BAG LADY = As seen here before. Uses purse as ball and chain to keep customers from leaving while she jumps tables. Little know fact only revealed here by ILTW. She actually brings 10 bags to work, so you 10 suckers can now star on "Magicians Secrets Revealed". And on next week show, the magician reveals the magic straw. How the "shot" glass gets empty when the "tea back" glass get fuller.
9) THE WHOLESOME GIRL = Contrary to popular belief, there are some really nice girls that work the KB's. Hey, mama, where's the new girl I saw earlier. Oh, ILTW bought her, her 1st drink and she quit already.
10) THE RESIDENT **** = Usually named Yujin. Do I need to say anymore?
Anyone that no need work on the weekends, I hate you guys. No scoop all the seats at the bar before I can clock out ah!
Anyone that no need work on the weekends, I hate you guys. No scoop all the seats at the bar before I can clock out ah!Ho, get choke old fut points. References to Johnny Barend, Wally Tsutsumi and the Civic in one post? Chee. And yeah, I got to work weekends. Nights. So I second that emotion.
Ho, get choke old fut points. References to Johnny Barend, Wally Tsutsumi and the Civic in one post? Chee. And yeah, I got to work weekends. Nights. So I second that emotion.Profile #2 reminds me of this TV show back in the day where Tremaine Tamayose was the main character in a skit. He was depressed and goes "Chee, I guess I just gon' hang-out in dis Korean bah". Then two KBGs portrayed by local oriental girls came over going "Buy me drinkee?".
They made wicked eye contact when one girl successfully picked his pocket and took-off, while the other pretended to be his honey. Then she asked for another drink and he was like "EH! Wea my wallet?" and she went "What? No money?" and split.
Then from the background could hear them hollering "Happy Owa OVA! Bah Closed!".
Speaking for myself, I enjoy hostess bars, always have. Everyone got their own reasons they go and I respect that. Even those guys that spend mega $ and don't even touch the girls I respect. Its for their OWN reasons and who am I to be critical of them? I may get more play for less $ but I am not better than them. They may enjoy something I am not smart enough to fathom and understand. (god knows what I have no clue). Still, its THEIR CHOICE and their business, not mine. They play the hostess bar game with an invisible set in stone rules and tactics set by bars and bargirls. Most of you know the bar culture protocals and what means what etc right? Do not underestimate their rules of the game. It is almost exclsively aimed at fooling the customer into THINKING he is playing his own game. The typical example being the more drinks you buy the more the girl will like you. NOT TRUE! It also encompasses all your actions and reactions from A to Z. Everything you do and say has a counter move and predictable. When you look around in the bar you see both guys and girls playing the SAME GAME. House always wins. Having said the above, and speaking for myself, I differ than some in that I go for my own reasons play BOTH, MY OWN GAME and for my OWN reasons. This works for me and I enjoy myself. I have my own rules and own tactics. I do things out of their A to Z rules and tactics. Typical example being messing with their minds instead of their NORMAL messing with the customer's. Oddly enough, I play the same game with bgirls as I do with civilians. I respect them and don't see them as my enemy actually, never have. Maybe I'm weird but this works for me. Any of you guys think like me? I just wanted to ask you guys this question. What game do you REALLY play with the bgirls?Everyone got there own games but like you said, the hot bar girls have it scewed in their favor. Just watching the two young hot bar girls laughing histerically the other night for like half an hour, one watching as the other was texting on her phone made me imagine that some fellaz aren't playing this game right and are getting PLAYED BADLY. Left that bar after getting drunk with my boys, too tired to try and pick up a japanese chick at a club in waikiki (about a dozen or so people pming me about my posts on this yet when give them info they don't even share their experiences- what's up with that!) and did the AMP thing. Fair exchange and a guaranteed thing, no games played, and in my personal experience (I don't know about yours) the AMP girls have been honest with what they do, its pretty obvious even when dealing with them outside of their working environment although i'm past the retarded newbie stage and have my heart closed off to any girl working in the sex industry. (and yes, i'm fully aware that some bar girls have started to work in amps because of the economy). And H Mobius, if you're reading this, i can't reply to you cause your inbox is full...
Us old futs had to learn the ropes ourselves by going through the heartaches, money and time wasted without access to info like this forum. I definitely would have scored more and spent less if had an internet forum like this then. Like ILTW said, you can skip grades. For those that didn't catch on, it mens you can score more, spend less and not waste time and getting heartbroken on deadend pursuits. Threads like this are worth alot and if I was a newer bargoer (10yrs or less) , I'd check this thread alot. I STILL learn new stuff so you newer bargoers should really take advantage of what is available to you. If I could go back in time with this info, I'd pay easy 20grand for it but I think it would be worth 10 times more than that maybe. Think thats an exageration? Ask oldtimers. I'm guessing they may think me paying 20grand is too little. Yet, seems its the same guys here. I don't know if me, ILTW, UKI, HM. Etc are just playing MENTAL MASTERBATION among ourselves, LOL. I wonder if mongers read this thread at all sometimes. I want to score pussy like any other horny bruddah and info is POWER so I read stuff like here to help me. Ok, maybe now its more pass on what was taught to me or what I learned myself. Maybe my stuff is worthless garbage (probably) but there's alot of good and valuable stuff on this forum by many others. So if you happen to have read this far by chance, take advantage, its the BEST DEAL IN TOWN!
Got to a question. When the KBG (or any for that matter) ask you "When was the last time you made love / had sex?" what do you think is the reason behind the question and what is the best answer?"Oh about 2 hours ago at my favorite AMP" would seem to not be the correct response."Oh it's been a long time" may imply your a loser."Last month with the gf or s. O." may reveal too much. Of course, what's behind the question may be as important as well. I've had it a few times and always answered "it's been awhile" but I'm not sure that's the right response. Your thoughts.
Regards,
SS
Got to a question. When the KBG (or any for that matter) ask you "When was the last time you made love / had sex?" what do you think is the reason behind the question and what is the best answer?"Oh about 2 hours ago at my favorite AMP" would seem to not be the correct response."Oh it's been a long time" may imply your a loser."Last month with the gf or s. O." may reveal too much. Of course, what's behind the question may be as important as well. I've had it a few times and always answered "it's been awhile" but I'm not sure that's the right response. Your thoughts.
Regards,
SSIMHO, it depends on the MOTIVE for asking more than anything and the context it was asked. The situation you are in when asked might give a clue to the motive. Sometimes they are just plain curious with no ulteior motives. Sometimes its really to find out how easy you can be played and robbed. My answers vary with my guess on the motive. My standard line when guessing or don't know motive is either 'I'll answer that after you and I make love, or I'll tell you if you tell me'. I do not think there is one correct answer to fit all situations. When I think they like know if I'm a playboy, I say last decade. If they want to know if experienced lover. Ill answer recently whatever recently means, hehe. Good question tho SS.
Iliketowatch
05-01-11, 23:42
Got to a question. When the KBG (or any for that matter) ask you "When was the last time you made love / had sex?" what do you think is the reason behind the question and what is the best answer?"Oh about 2 hours ago at my favorite AMP" would seem to not be the correct response."Oh it's been a long time" may imply your a loser."Last month with the gf or s. O." may reveal too much. Of course, what's behind the question may be as important as well. I've had it a few times and always answered "it's been awhile" but I'm not sure that's the right response. Your thoughts.
Regards,
SSTo answer your question, without really giving you an answer, my humble opinion is. . . You got to read the girl before she asks any question to you. That's what all my posts are trying to do. Enlighten you to all the various personalities you run across in the KB's. Yes, I tend to group them broadly at times, but they'll all fall somewhat into a specific category. Every girl is different, every girl wants to hear a different answer, your job is to give the answer she wants to hear. Not the truth, if you choose. Not easy, or we would all be getting laid. Reminds me of the time we used to go to the hula hut. Met this local chick one night with her friends. Saw her every Friday for the next couple of weeks. Tried to play the gentleman role. Just talk, have fun, dance, etc. Then the following week, she just ignored me. Asked her friend what's up? Her friends said, you didn't make a move on her so she figured your not really interested. So she hooked up with another guy. Play it cool, and your not aggressive enough. Come on too strong, and your too aggressive, seems like you can never win with women. But I learned since then, yes you can win, if, you 1st figure out what makes her tick. It's not to say you deceive her when you figure out where she's at, it just gives you the choice to pursue her tick, or if her tick turns you off, then you wash your hands clean without getting them too dirty and invested. In the KB's, the girls are reading the guys before you even realize it. That's why every single girl doesn't come up to you to ask for a drink. Just the ones that have made a educated guess on what makes you tick, and they feel they have what it takes to scratch your itch. If the **** asks you and your friend,"what's the last time you had sex?" Is she fishing to see if you will take her home? If you are desperate enough to pay for the champagne room? If you are an VD risk? Are you only here to score? If you're stupid enough to be a green card candidate with promised sex as the bait rather than paying you a fee? Without reading her, the best answer is the truth, cause if she still shows interest, you won't have to remember to cover your lie with another lie. And if you say your a virgin and she hangs around. Then you must read her again and figure out why you being a virgin makes her tick. The reading never ends. That's the KB game. That's the high for me. That has been my successes in getting nani. I figured it out on the 2% of girls I met, and couldn't on the other 98. But once you figure her out and claim your prize, you have the disease, regardless of the stacked odds. You only remember the 2% and not dwell on the 98. Reality is, most are working just want to make money. Not have sex, not have a relationship, not be a grab bag, not anything but make as much as they can so they can live (for a short while) free and easy. Good luck my friend. Try not to tie up the phone line when I'm trying to get a hold of Ms. Cleo.
Try not to tie up the phone line when I'm trying to get a hold of Ms. Cleo.Well I followed you until that last line. I have no idea what that means. Of course I have no idea about a lot of things too include that "when is the last time you had sex" line. It usually comes at the most unexpected times, like not when I'm "mauling", rather when I'm just sitting there shooting the shit with the girl. I'm thinking that most (and I mean most) of the time it's just one of many lines they have in their arsenal."Buy me good luck drink" "Buy my sister a drink cause she helped me last night" "When was the last time you had sex" "Do you have a girlfriend" "Watch my purse" etc. All part of the arsenal. I'm thinking old futs like me probably get that line more often as the kbg's figure we're less apt to be getting any, anyways. Yeah there is a very small percentage out there that may want to actually know and are hinting that some sort of liason could develop, however, I'm thinking that percent is literally 1 in a 100. (or less) Basically it's no more, no less than what any snake oil salesman might say. Anything to get the customer to part with their money.
Ss
Looking at the replies to SS's post from me and ILTW made me laugh to myself thinking what our bar conversation would be like if we were at the bar. Our answers are exacty the same, (mine's betta) we just say it different. I think we would argue who (mo correct) as well as trade notes on girls and bars. It would be like a wrestling match where need Headlock to referee. (smat eloquent one). However, getting back to the bgs, same answers from different sources is not a coincidence. I knew ILTW'S answer would be more or less same as mine. Still, us old futs going argue with each other about our differences, LOL. Thats how oldtimers are hehe. BTW, young guys don't know 50th state wrestling cause they wasnt born yet! So how dey going relate? First fall to Oldee, : hears the cheers. Back the girls, they are just like the good wrestlers long ago. Good actors that made you beleive was REAL! Just like the kbg feelings for you is REAL. LY fake. I hope you can read the fine print. EH ILTW, its loser leave town (1 week) grudge match and I won the first fall. How much we should charge for tickets to watch 2 old guys at the bar? What say we split the gate and blow it on nekos.
Got to a question. When the KBG (or any for that matter) ask you "When was the last time you made love / had sex?" what do you think is the reason behind the question and what is the best answer?"Oh about 2 hours ago at my favorite AMP" would seem to not be the correct response."Oh it's been a long time" may imply your a loser."Last month with the gf or s. O." may reveal too much. Of course, what's behind the question may be as important as well. I've had it a few times and always answered "it's been awhile" but I'm not sure that's the right response. Your thoughts.
Regards,
SSLet me ask you this, has the topic of sex ever been brought up with these women? If the answer is no, no offense but, if a woman pops that question, she curious. In fact, she may think this: "hmm. I wonder if this guy has ever gotten any lately? Maybe his wife or GF not giving him and that's why he at the bar trying to get some" If you're on the older side (I'm assuming you are) where women look at you as married and settled down, she's going to assume you don't get any from the wife. If you are the flirty type, she may think you're a playboy and likes to just fuck girls. She puts you on the spot to confirm if you are one by asking that question. Or, hinting you. She maybe interested and throws hints at you to see your reaction.
Women know men think about sex. Regardless if he's young, old, skinny, fat, handsome or ugly. They not clueless. A guy makes himself look more stupid if he is not open on his sexuality. If a young or old guy never brings up any type of sexual topic, she's going to think he's still a virgin. Or, its just a cover up. It's actually odd if a man never talks about sex. It's not abnormal to talk about sex. Look what's on tv and in magazines, the music they play on the radio, the way women dress at the bars, clubs. This is why women see certain guys as just friends only. They not turned on by them. No excitement in the conversation or no physical contact whatsoever to turn her on.
The hell with the 100% nice guy routine. Fricken boring. No sense of adventure. It's good to be nice as you show respect to the women but, its just not exciting. Be daring sometimes, say something that would just throw her offguard and surprise her. But, of course nothing blatantly perverted that would offend her. If you a funny guy, it helps because its a potent ice breaker. It's fun to be around people who are fun and happy go lucky. Combine this with some playful sexual flirting.
Got to a question. When the KBG (or any for that matter) ask you "When was the last time you made love / had sex?"They just using the same ole line to fish for guys who may infer that they get chance with the BG (bait). It's like an "icebreaker" meant to lure and eventually sink you; BS BG line.
Iliketowatch
05-02-11, 15:20
EH ILTW, its loser leave town (1 week) grudge match and I won the first fall. How much we should charge for tickets to watch 2 old guys at the bar? What say we split the gate and blow it on nekos.Oldee, you got to wait. I 1st like find the "kbg missing link", you know, that legendary KBG. Thought I found her a couple of times, but when I stuck my hand in her hair, I neva get stuck. Damn. I continue to search. If by chance you are at the same bar when I find her, you will hear a massive,"Oh, yeah", then the match is on. Hide the folding chairs.
Sik Dj Gugu
05-02-11, 19:13
The hell with the 100% nice guy routine. Fricken boring. No sense of adventure. It's good to be nice as you show respect to the women but, its just not exciting. Be daring sometimes, say something that would just throw her offguard and surprise her. But, of course nothing blatantly perverted that would offend her. If you a funny guy, it helps because its a potent ice breaker. It's fun to be around people who are fun and happy go lucky. Combine this with some playful sexual flirting.going to have to agree with the Uk'ster here. I was sitting with a KBG 2 weeks ago and was just chit chatting a little bit. Probably bought her 2 drinks in the span of about an hour, which I think is pretty good. And of course the basic talk commences; what's your job, does it pay well, are you rich, are you married, blah blah blah. She then asks for my age and I tell her to guess. She says something like 36 and I'm now,"You're kidding right?" Gave her a dirty look since it's pretty damn obvious I'm much younger looking. I make a move to leave and then she just apologies and tries to coax me back to my happy spot. I play along with it and then tell her to guess seriously. She tries again and I think says "29" which again, is higher than what I actually am. I tell her my real age and she kinda just goes "wow! That's so great! You're so young and handsome! I'm so happy!"
So then I ask her how old she is and I tell her to be honest or I'm going to get mad. She goes "I'm just a few years older than you." I wanted to yell out "BS" and make her pick up all the cards on the stack but wanted to do it in a kinder way so I tell her "Ok, if you can honestly tell me that you're under 30, I'll buy a bottle for you right now, right here, no back room needed." She has this priceless look on her. It was kind of a shock + happiness + excitement but soon followed by a 'oh crap! I'm over 30! How can I lie to him well enough to make him buy me a bottle? ' kind of face. I called her out on her hesitation and just said "I knew it! Good try though. Well it was fun but I think I'm going to go to another bar where the girls don't lie just because they want drinks"
Walked out the door without looking back and I could hear her following after me.
I got 2 Heinys that say she's going to be super nice to me if I sit with her again.
going to have to agree with the Uk'ster here. I was sitting with a KBG 2 weeks ago and was just chit chatting a little bit. Probably bought her 2 drinks in the span of about an hour, which I think is pretty good. And of course the basic talk commences; what's your job, does it pay well, are you rich, are you married, blah blah blah. She then asks for my age and I tell her to guess. She says something like 36 and I'm now,"You're kidding right?" Gave her a dirty look since it's pretty damn obvious I'm much younger looking. I make a move to leave and then she just apologies and tries to coax me back to my happy spot. I play along with it and then tell her to guess seriously. She tries again and I think says "29" which again, is higher than what I actually am. I tell her my real age and she kinda just goes "wow! That's so great! You're so young and handsome! I'm so happy!"
So then I ask her how old she is and I tell her to be honest or I'm going to get mad. She goes "I'm just a few years older than you." I wanted to yell out "BS" and make her pick up all the cards on the stack but wanted to do it in a kinder way so I tell her "Ok, if you can honestly tell me that you're under 30, I'll buy a bottle for you right now, right here, no back room needed." She has this priceless look on her. It was kind of a shock + happiness + excitement but soon followed by a 'oh crap! I'm over 30! How can I lie to him well enough to make him buy me a bottle? ' kind of face. I called her out on her hesitation and just said "I knew it! Good try though. Well it was fun but I think I'm going to go to another bar where the girls don't lie just because they want drinks"
Walked out the door without looking back and I could hear her following after me.
I got 2 Heinys that say she's going to be super nice to me if I sit with her again. Ah, to be young again, LOL. Wish a kbg ASKED me my age, LOL. There's alot to comment on but I'm too jealous at the moment, hehe.
So then I ask her how old she is and I tell her to be honest or I'm going to get mad. She goes "I'm just a few years older than you." I wanted to yell out "BS" and make her pick up all the cards on the stack but wanted to do it in a kinder way so I tell her "Ok, if you can honestly tell me that you're under 30, I'll buy a bottle for you right now, right here, no back room needed." She has this priceless look on her. It was kind of a shock + happiness + excitement but soon followed by a 'oh crap! I'm over 30! How can I lie to him well enough to make him buy me a bottle? ' kind of face. I called her out on her hesitation and just said "I knew it! Good try though. Well it was fun but I think I'm going to go to another bar where the girls don't lie just because they want drinks"
Walked out the door without looking back and I could hear her following after me.
I got 2 Heinys that say she's going to be super nice to me if I sit with her again. Nah, don't say things like "I'm going to get mad" its not smooth and its like threatening her if she lies. Don't display temper or demand that she tells the truth. Just smile and laugh at it like your not even phased by it. Don't get affected easily by what a woman says. BGs shouldn't get to you and it's expected that they will bring up silly lies just to make conversation. Remember, you're not alone. Women can lie as it's part of their defense mechanism. They being cautious. You honestly think a BG will be truthful to all the customers she sits with? Who knows, one of them could be a stalker. What they say, should be taken with a grain of salt. You shouldn't be talking to them like you intend to hook up and have a relationship with them. Just have your fun with them and don't expect anything.
When buying BGs drinks, you can't be thinking about and be worrying whether she telling the truth or if she lieing etc. Instead, just focus on having fun teasing her and enjoying yourself. Put the BG in the hot seat for a change. It's fun to do that. Like how you just did later when you got her to admit her age. That's where Oldee mentions about playing the game with these girls. Play your own game on them. I know, I know you don't want to be playing games. You just want an open and honest conversation. Hehe. This is where Iliketowatch mentioned before about the "Know where you are"
Hello? You're in a hostess bar and the women who work there don't need to be honest with every customer they sit with. You shouldn't be the Mr nice guy, need to be honest with these girls and expect / hope that she is honest in return. This is where you'll get taken advantage of and be suckered easily. Put the girls on the spot. Make them earn the drink. But, do it in a playful manner that doesn't come as being offensive. Remember have fun. When you having fun, you wouldn't care less whether what she saying is the truth or not. You're too busy having fun to even think about it.
She then asks for my age and I tell her to guess. She says something like 36 and I'm now,"You're kidding right?" Gave her a dirty look since it's pretty damn obvious I'm much younger looking. I make a move to leave and then she just apologies and tries to coax me back to my happy spot. I play along with it and then tell her to guess seriously.I got to admit, I was like this to 8 years ago. I was even mad at the BG that I liked cause she got up and sat with one of her regulars. I sat at the booth for about 30 minutes. Then, I got up and walked out of the bar all mad. The next night I seen her, I displayed my moodiness towards her. I even told her why I was mad. Then, she apologized. As I looked back, I shake my head and laugh about it. Then, I ask myself this question:
*Why am I mad? Is she my GF? No!
*Is she obligated to sit with me? No!
The problem, I was too sensitive. Overeact over small little things and get offended easily if she lies or take advantage. What you need to learn is to be more carefree and nonchalant. Don't focus on the pickup and focus on the fun. This is how dealing with BGs and their lies can benefit you in dealing with women outside of the bar. If you reacted like that with a BG working in a bar, pretty sure you'll react the same way if a woman outside the bar does the same thing. Nice guys generally act like this. They are sensitive and get offended and even defensive.
Like I mentioned earlier, be daring. Tease her ass! Hehe. You'll get use to it that it will come naturally. Remember, she just a BG and you're not looking to hook up with her. Be nonchalant, carefree and don't give a shit. What a BG say and do will not phase you. Why? Cause you the man! Hehe. Think highly of yourself. Respect a woman but, you demand respect in return.
Don't focus on impressing the girl. You trying to prove you're worthy to her. Have her prove to you how she's worthy. Have her chase you then you chase them. Besides man, you're Sik DJ (Don Juan) Gogu.
Sik Dj Gugu
05-03-11, 00:40
I got to admit, I was like this to 8 years ago. I was even mad at the BG that I liked cause she got up and sat with one of her regulars. I sat at the booth for about 30 minutes. Then, I got up and walked out of the bar all mad. The next night I seen her, I displayed my moodiness towards her. I even told her why I was mad. Then, she apologized. As I looked back, I shake my head and laugh about it. Then, I ask myself this question:
*Why am I mad? Is she my GF? No!
*Is she obligated to sit with me? No!
The problem, I was too sensitive. Overeact over small little things and get offended easily if she lies or take advantage. What you need to learn is to be more carefree and nonchalant. Don't focus on the pickup and focus on the fun. This is how dealing with BGs and their lies can benefit you in dealing with women outside of the bar. If you reacted like that with a BG working in a bar, pretty sure you'll react the same way if a woman outside the bar does the same thing. Nice guys generally act like this. They are sensitive and get offended and even defensive.
Like I mentioned earlier, be daring. Tease her ass! Hehe. You'll get use to it that it will come naturally. Remember, she just a BG and you're not looking to hook up with her. Be nonchalant, carefree and don't give a shit. What a BG say and do will not phase you. Why? Cause you the man! Hehe. Think highly of yourself. Respect a woman but, you demand respect in return.
Don't focus on impressing the girl. You trying to prove you're worthy to her. Have her prove to you how she's worthy. Have her chase you then you chase them. Besides man, you're Sik DJ (Don Juan) Gogu. Haha duly noted from the pimp master himself.
Haha duly noted from the pimp master himself.Good one Ukster, you're on a roll bro. Very good post. Pimp Master? LOL Got any extra girls laying around for me?
CheapCharlie
05-03-11, 01:39
I got to admit, I was like this to 8 years ago. I was even mad at the BG that I liked cause she got up and sat with one of her regulars. I sat at the booth for about 30 minutes. Then, I got up and walked out of the bar all mad. The next night I seen her, I displayed my moodiness towards her. I even told her why I was mad. Then, she apologized. As I looked back, I shake my head and laugh about it. Then, I ask myself this question:
*Why am I mad? Is she my GF? No!
*Is she obligated to sit with me? No!
The problem, I was too sensitive. Overeact over small little things and get offended easily if she lies or take advantage. What you need to learn is to be more carefree and nonchalant. Don't focus on the pickup and focus on the fun. This is how dealing with BGs and their lies can benefit you in dealing with women outside of the bar. If you reacted like that with a BG working in a bar, pretty sure you'll react the same way if a woman outside the bar does the same thing. Nice guys generally act like this. They are sensitive and get offended and even defensive.
Like I mentioned earlier, be daring. Tease her ass! Hehe. You'll get use to it that it will come naturally. Remember, she just a BG and you're not looking to hook up with her. Be nonchalant, carefree and don't give a shit. What a BG say and do will not phase you. Why? Cause you the man! Hehe. Think highly of yourself. Respect a woman but, you demand respect in return.
Don't focus on impressing the girl. You trying to prove you're worthy to her. Have her prove to you how she's worthy. Have her chase you then you chase them. Besides man, you're Sik DJ (Don Juan) Gogu. I would feel that she's obligated to sit with me if I bought her stupid ass one $20 drink! I hate when BGs do that, I work fucken hard for my money! And to have them juggle customers or make you wait while they sit with their regulars, that aint right in my book. I know she aint my wife or GF, but if I buy the girl one LD I expect her to sit with me and finish the drink.Not go all walking around trying to get drinks from other guys,while I wait for her like one dumbass.
KBGs love to see others angry, jealous, sad, suffering, etc, especially if they caused the drama. Their goal is to make as many people suffer as possible while enriching themselves to validate their emptiness.
While some may view the BGs' existence as meaningless (as I do) others may actually try to find some meaning in their lives by confiding in BGs even if it leads to their destruction. Strange, isn't it, that people will spend plenty kala to have all the problems associated with BG relations.
Geev'um and leave'um; suppress evil; go drink but no buy nekos; play your game, not their bs.
I would feel that she's obligated to sit with me if I bought her stupid ass one $20 drink! I hate when BGs do that, I work fucken hard for my money! And to have them juggle customers or make you wait while they sit with their regulars, that aint right in my book. I know she aint my wife or GF, but if I buy the girl one LD I expect her to sit with me and finish the drink.Not go all walking around trying to get drinks from other guys,while I wait for her like one dumbass.You are correct of course. We all hate the table hoppers. Big waste of kala. The thing is, I don't buy table hoppers LD to begin with and avoid that problem alltogeher. I make sure they know what I expect before I buy. You can usually tell the table hoppers most times anyway beforehand so easy to give quicl no thanks. Not sure? Don't buy. Want to risk it? It was a RISK after all, just imo.
I would feel that she's obligated to sit with me if I bought her stupid ass one $20 drink! I hate when BGs do that, I work fucken hard for my money! And to have them juggle customers or make you wait while they sit with their regulars, that aint right in my book. I know she aint my wife or GF, but if I buy the girl one LD I expect her to sit with me and finish the drink.Not go all walking around trying to get drinks from other guys,while I wait for her like one dumbass.Yeah, I know how you feel. Most guys can relate also. That's why my outlook on these BGs is nonchalant and I don't focus on that 1 BG. Fuck it! Next! Hehe. I'm already expecting that a BG would do that. The next time she comes by and wants to sit down, heh, put her on the spot, tease and scold her in a jokey tone sending a message. (Hard for most guys to do this) Most guys react emotionally. This is a sign of weakness. This is where a BG or a woman for that matter can label you. She's like: "ohhh. So he's one of those sensitive ones" Women need to be careful with these types of men or they may get them offended.
Be the better person and keep your cool. Don't display to her that you mad that she did that. Displaying anger is not smooth. I know some guys (including myself) would scold her that she walks away like that. But, what would that do though? Make her stay with me and it will be more fun and enjoyable? When I scolded the BG and displayed my temper, it just changed the mood. It wasn't the same and she looked scared as she apologized. Nowadays, I try to think positive regardless what happens. When she leaves like that, I'd say to myself: "meh, maybe it was for the better anyway, I could have spent alot more $ on her if she stayed longer" Despite something negative occurred (she walked away) , I counter it with something positive (saved money by not buying her more drinks) like Oldee mentioned earlier it's a risk. Like Vegas, its a risk and expect to lose.
"Shit! You know how much $ I just put in this stupid machine? Still nothing! Fuck!"
Hehe, sheesh, I admit I think like that sometimes. Frustrating. Then I tell myself: "Relax Uki, calm down. You're not the only one losing $"
CheapCharlie
05-03-11, 20:44
Yeah, I know how you feel. Most guys can relate also. That's why my outlook on these BGs is nonchalant and I don't focus on that 1 BG. Fuck it! Next! Hehe. I'm already expecting that a BG would do that. The next time she comes by and wants to sit down, heh, put her on the spot, tease and scold her in a jokey tone sending a message. (Hard for most guys to do this) Most guys react emotionally. This is a sign of weakness. This is where a BG or a woman for that matter can label you. She's like: "ohhh. So he's one of those sensitive ones" Women need to be careful with these types of men or they may get them offended.
Be the better person and keep your cool. Don't display to her that you mad that she did that. Displaying anger is not smooth. I know some guys (including myself) would scold her that she walks away like that. But, what would that do though? Make her stay with me and it will be more fun and enjoyable? When I scolded the BG and displayed my temper, it just changed the mood. It wasn't the same and she looked scared as she apologized. Nowadays, I try to think positive regardless what happens. When she leaves like that, I'd say to myself: "meh, maybe it was for the better anyway, I could have spent alot more $ on her if she stayed longer" Despite something negative occurred (she walked away) , I counter it with something positive (saved money by not buying her more drinks) like Oldee mentioned earlier it's a risk. Like Vegas, its a risk and expect to lose.
"Shit! You know how much $ I just put in this stupid machine? Still nothing! Fuck!"
Hehe, sheesh, I admit I think like that sometimes. Frustrating. Then I tell myself: "Relax Uki, calm down. You're not the only one losing $"If they do that to me, sometimes I tell them okay and make like I going buy them one drink. Then when they go and get the drink, I dig out and head to another bar. Or I tell them, I no mo money and got to go ATM; then leave and head to another bar.
Oldee, you got to wait. I 1st like find the "kbg missing link", you know, that legendary KBG. Thought I found her a couple of times, but when I stuck my hand in her hair, I neva get stuck. Damn. I continue to search. If by chance you are at the same bar when I find her, you will hear a massive,"Oh, yeah", then the match is on. Hide the folding chairs.Ok, I looking fo my tag team partna too. Recently I had a match with 'Fuj the stooge' (Yuka at moonflower). She the quiet one with the smile and do everything you ask. 1 want pupus, check, (1count) 1 want massage, check (2count) .1 want play check, just wen was going fo the 3count pin and the win, referee (Channel mama) pulls her off to go another customer as time ran out so match ended in a draw. That happens to me alot at kbars, fo you guys too? I looking fo Nick 1000holds buckwinkle fo my partna. The pretty one that going make you submit to her abodominal (wallet) stretch. She is so slippery and very hard to pin her with all the counter moves she has. Anyone seen her at Camelot or Evergreen? You young guys, substitute WWE guys if you want to catch on. This is for the Korean Bar Tag Team Championship and I want the best available partna. Sorry for you MooE and Highlo guys but this match too big to be held there.
Don't marry a KBG.
Don't fall into the trap of thinking you are her BF.
Don't waste time buying her drinks unless you get something out of it.
Do fuk them if you get a chance.
KBGs love to see others angry, jealous, sad, suffering, etc, especially if they caused the drama. Their goal is to make as many people suffer as possible while enriching themselves to validate their emptiness.No man. Separate yourself from your anger. Sure there are probably some really dysfunctional KBGs but most are in it for the money. Nothing personal, as I said in another post. They neither hate you nor love you. Deal with it.
If you aren't going to buy a girl's drink, you aren't even in the game. In a KB, money is the game. So if it irks you that bad, really stay out of KBs. Otherwise, you are totally making a n00b's mistakes.
No man. Separate yourself from your anger. Sure there are probably some really dysfunctional KBGs but most are in it for the money. Nothing personal, as I said in another post. They neither hate you nor love you. Deal with it.
If you aren't going to buy a girl's drink, you aren't even in the game. In a KB, money is the game. So if it irks you that bad, really stay out of KBs. Otherwise, you are totally making a n00b's mistakes. I pretty much agree with you HL However, I'm not so sure about the context. We generally say lawyers are greedy ass sobs etc knowing some are good guys. I also don't know if its said out of anger either. FWIW, I see those kbgs Aflack refers to all the time in town, not really kalilhi and beyond anymore. I also know kbgs kalihi that used to be that way in their prime but changed or had to anyway. You can see the distinct differences in attitudes between town and kalihi bgs, especialy these days. Disagree about need to buy drinks to be in the game tho. There are many games, not just the sex game. But even with the sex game, I got free BJ in the waikamilo 5 bar parking lot last year when a vegas2 girl I never met joined me at iris at the bar walking in wasted. Didn't buy her anything. Must have steped something that day, hehe. Anyhow, its just my opinions and I respect yours as well as Aflacks. Sometimes its good to remind ourselves that we (me included) dummies that buy $20 drinks that may last 0 seconds and usually get nothing aint the smartest guys on the planet. You're still my hero tho HL.).
I pretty much agree with you HL However, I'm not so sure about the context.Yeah, mine was as much a generalization as any. I'm glad we can disagree in a civil discourse like this. Somewhere in all of our rants, there will be a nugget of truth. Just got to find it, I guess.
But as to tactics, I hold to my position of being a cold-hearted snake. I've found my biggest mistakes to be when I get emotional.
Don't marry a KBG.
Don't fall into the trap of thinking you are her BF.
Don't waste time buying her drinks unless you get something out of it.
Do fuk them if you get a chance.Always keep your sword clean, sharp, and protected.
Yeah, mine was as much a generalization as any. I'm glad we can disagree in a civil discourse like this. Somewhere in all of our rants, there will be a nugget of truth. Just got to find it, I guess.
But as to tactics, I hold to my position of being a cold-hearted snake. I've found my biggest mistakes to be when I get emotional.I'm with you on that bro. Except your snake probably longer den mine. Hehe Yeah, when we get emotional with the bgs is when we give away our power. BTW, how did you get to be a weapons expert? Can you be my bodygaurd when I go Wahiawa? LOL
No man. Separate yourself from your anger. Sure there are probably some really dysfunctional KBGs but most are in it for the money. Nothing personal, as I said in another post. They neither hate you nor love you. Deal with it.
If you aren't going to buy a girl's drink, you aren't even in the game. In a KB, money is the game. So if it irks you that bad, really stay out of KBs. Otherwise, you are totally making a n00b's mistakes. I also agree for the most part. Some guys spend $$$$$ but, don't really get anything. His mind can be mentally weak and be taken advantage of easily. Besides, you don't want them to just see you and use you as a mere ATM machine. Most, if not all BGs just see us guys as that as they work there to make money. To play the game, you must be up to the challenge. In fact, be a challenge. As money hungry a BG can be, be a challenge in which you don't give in easy (you're unyielding) , you're unpredictable (Needy? Pervert? Lonely guy? Playboy? Other?) and you're not boring (you're fun and interesting).
BGs will assume that you will be just be another easy sucker to take advantage of. Heh, plenty of these. Don't focus too much on whether she a ROB, if she plays, or she telling the truth, etc etc etc. The more you think about it and you find out she is among the list, you have a tendency to react emotionally. Then, you get all salty and you feel down. You won't enjoy yourself in the bar. Heh, no sense go bar if that's the case. You just allowing yourself to get more frustrated. I guess some guys means of enjoyment is to have a girl sit next to him. Hoping she is different from the rest. Without that, there's no fun. Relying on outside factors (chicks) to make themselves happy.
You need to focus on yourself first. I repeat, you need to focus on yourself. Respect yourself. Never cut yourself down. Regardless of age, looks, relationship or financial situation. Respect others, but you will not have others disrespect you. When entering any bar, your mood should be happy and excited regardless of the situation or outcome. Why, because you respect and value yourself. No BG tricks, tactics, lies etc etc will have any affect on you. You may feel bothered a bit which is understandable but, your happy mood is just overshadowing all other moods. Heh, why would BGs in a hostess bar bring you down? This is just so manini to you.
In fact, your feeling so good and your mind is mentally tough that you just dare any BG to just sit by you and ROB you."Bring it * LOL. Heh, the more lies, tricks, antics they do, the stronger you become. You are the man that's why. Constantly tell yourself that. A woman will not offer you happiness. Even though some people think so. But, happiness comes from within. Whether you have someone or not you're happy. As Aflack mentioned in a previous post.
"You Need To Be Your Own Man"
Iliketowatch
05-05-11, 21:08
You are correct of course. We all hate the table hoppers. Big waste of kala. The thing is, I don't buy table hoppers LD to begin with and avoid that problem alltogeher. I make sure they know what I expect before I buy. You can usually tell the table hoppers most times anyway beforehand so easy to give quicl no thanks. Not sure? Don't buy. Want to risk it? It was a RISK after all, just imo.Have seen guys only pay a girl after she finishes her drink. I guess this tactic is used to make her stay. But if she tanks it so she can run away, who's the real winner. Maybe it's best to just find someone who is into you. For whatever reason you want. If she don't want to chill with you, then why would you want to chill with her? You want someone to talk to, then find someone who wants to talk to you. You want to sing, then find someone who wants to sing with you. You want someone to grab, then find someone who wants to be grabbed by you. Want someone for sex talk, then find someone who is entertained by talking sex. Wants someone for real sex, then you really better find someone who is comfortable with you or you better have a lot of cash, and she still might not go home with you no matter how much you throw at her. Whether you pay her to sit with you or she just wants to hang with you for free (maybe because she doesn't want to look alone to the other girls) , if she don't want to be with you, she will find an excuse to leave. Never had a friend or gf, that would makes excuses for not wanting to hang with me. 1st an most important sign, she's not into you as much as you are into her. She can say, I got to go to the other table to make some money. But then you say to yourself, why does she tank her drink with me, and stay with them, and not tank her drink with them and stay with me? I'll give you one guess? Oldee? But what if no one is into me? Count it as a blessing in the kb my friend.
Have seen guys only pay a girl after she finishes her drink. I guess this tactic is used to make her stay. But if she tanks it so she can run away, who's the real winner. Maybe it's best to just find someone who is into you. For whatever reason you want. If she don't want to chill with you, then why would you want to chill with her? You want someone to talk to, then find someone who wants to talk to you. You want to sing, then find someone who wants to sing with you. You want someone to grab, then find someone who wants to be grabbed by you. Want someone for sex talk, then find someone who is entertained by talking sex. Wants someone for real sex, then you really better find someone who is comfortable with you or you better have a lot of cash, and she still might not go home with you no matter how much you throw at her. Whether you pay her to sit with you or she just wants to hang with you for free (maybe because she doesn't want to look alone to the other girls) , if she don't want to be with you, she will find an excuse to leave. Never had a friend or gf, that would makes excuses for not wanting to hang with me. 1st an most important sign, she's not into you as much as you are into her. She can say, I got to go to the other table to make some money. But then you say to yourself, why does she tank her drink with me, and stay with them, and not tank her drink with them and stay with me? I'll give you one guess? Oldee? But what if no one is into me? Count it as a blessing in the kb my friend.Take out the 2 maybes in your post and its perfect imo. Just noticed in SR. now baby, thanks Jackson!
Have seen guys only pay a girl after she finishes her drink. I guess this tactic is used to make her stay. But if she tanks it so she can run away, who's the real winner. Maybe it's best to just find someone who is into you. For whatever reason you want. If she don't want to chill with you, then why would you want to chill with her? You want someone to talk to, then find someone who wants to talk to you. You want to sing, then find someone who wants to sing with you. You want someone to grab, then find someone who wants to be grabbed by you. Want someone for sex talk, then find someone who is entertained by talking sex. Wants someone for real sex, then you really better find someone who is comfortable with you or you better have a lot of cash, and she still might not go home with you no matter how much you throw at her. Whether you pay her to sit with you or she just wants to hang with you for free (maybe because she doesn't want to look alone to the other girls) , if she don't want to be with you, she will find an excuse to leave. Never had a friend or gf, that would makes excuses for not wanting to hang with me. 1st an most important sign, she's not into you as much as you are into her. She can say, I got to go to the other table to make some money. But then you say to yourself, why does she tank her drink with me, and stay with them, and not tank her drink with them and stay with me? I'll give you one guess? Oldee? But what if no one is into me? Count it as a blessing in the kb my friend.Since I'm an old fart, I just tell 'them,"I'm the customer, and I get what I want. And if I want to drink with a different girl, I ask. If you want me to buy drinks for you, keep me happy." I do that all the time. Sometimes the kbg protests that "You're my customer." I just tell them that if you not going let me choose, I'll go to another bar.
Happy Boys Day! A successful KB is based on a parody of a famous address: it is a business of the customer, for the customer, by the customer, and shall not perish blaming the customer.
Don't know if that is a good example but the gist of the message is evident.
Iliketowatch
05-07-11, 16:15
Take out the 2 maybes in your post and its perfect imo. Just noticed in SR. now baby, thanks Jackson!I'll see your 2 maybes and raise you a "she into you". Just watch out. If she's into you, it "maybe" (or "is", like oldee says) , only because of your cash. And the only way to find out. Pop quiz at 10. Is SR a good thing or curse?
Iliketowatch
05-10-11, 03:18
There's no mystery to the kbg mind. I've often said the outside rules of engagement don't apply in the kb's. They don't. So take the kbg out of her element to level the playing field. Some of you don't want bar play and prefer home play. Buy the kb a drink, ask for her number, call her to have dinner, then ask her to go home with you. If she declines, move on, she was hungry. Real life scenario. You go to buy a shirt. The cashier is hot. You pay for your shirt so you can get her phone number. She gives it to you. You call her to have dinner. She agrees. She's either hungry or maybe wants to connect with you. How do you find out? After dinner you ask her to come home with you, she declines. Ask her if you can see her again. If she sys OK, but you got to buy another shirt and take me to dinner again. What do you do? Come on man. Don't disappoint me with your answer. Move on bro. If the kbg wants you to buy her another drink without you getting what you want, move on. It's as plain and simple as I can make it. If this doesn't make sense to you, sorry but I cannot help you. You're choosing to make the game too complicated. Romancing someone who is there just for the money, just adds more numbers to my list.
There's no mystery to the kbg mind. I've often said the outside rules of engagement don't apply in the kb's. They don't. So take the kbg out of her element to level the playing field. Some of you don't want bar play and prefer home play. Buy the kb a drink, ask for her number, call her to have dinner, then ask her to go home with you. If she declines, move on, she was hungry. Real life scenario. You go to buy a shirt. The cashier is hot. You pay for your shirt so you can get her phone number. She gives it to you. You call her to have dinner. She agrees. She's either hungry or maybe wants to connect with you. How do you find out? After dinner you ask her to come home with you, she declines. Ask her if you can see her again. If she sys OK, but you got to buy another shirt and take me to dinner again. What do you do? Come on man. Don't disappoint me with your answer. Move on bro. If the kbg wants you to buy her another drink without you getting what you want, move on. It's as plain and simple as I can make it. If this doesn't make sense to you, sorry but I cannot help you. You're choosing to make the game too complicated. Romancing someone who is there just for the money, just adds more numbers to my list.Also, choose the girl that matches YOUR game, if you got any, hehe. I see most guys choose the wrong girls that either don't match or not enough game to be successful. If you don't have game or your game don't match the one you want, go AMP. Some vets can almost instantly know their % (fo you ILTW) odds of success with the girls. The girls can do the SAME, most times better. Even those with game but don't want the hassle and drama better off AMP. There's a saying that goes: Luck is when opportunity meets preparation. Want to get lucky? Be prepared and choose wisely. Still don't know? May I suggest ALOHA KB Tours?
Iliketowatch
05-10-11, 18:58
Also, choose the girl that matches YOUR game, if you got any, hehe. I see most guys choose the wrong girls that either don't match or not enough game to be successful. If you don't have game or your game don't match the one you want, go AMP. Some vets can almost instantly know their % (fo you ILTW) odds of success with the girls. The girls can do the SAME, most times better. Even those with game but don't want the hassle and drama better off AMP. There's a saying that goes: Luck is when opportunity meets preparation. Want to get lucky? Be prepared and choose wisely. Still don't know? May I suggest ALOHA KB Tours?You stole #25 right from under me. The astronaut guy. Always shooting for the moon. OK back to serious. During my stay in Japan, one weekend, we had a brilliant plan. We staked out the all-night cafe right across the street of a bunch of host bars. Not hostess, host bars. Our plan was to snag girls coming out of the bar, knowing they must be lonely and needing of attention. During our observations, I noticed, all of the girls fit a certain profile. They were all in my opinion, geeky looking, nerdy looking, homey looking, lonely rich looking, or very plain jane-ish looking. In the three nights, we never saw anyone that would fit the description of hot, sexy, you know what I mean, except for the few hostesses we saw patronizing the club. Anyone that we thought could hook a guy outside of this club, was nowhere to be seen. In the end we didn't hook up with anyone, mainly because the girls were always escorted to the curb by the host to a waiting taxi. Back to my point. When I sit and WATCH in the kb's, I see the exact profile in the guys. Not putting you guys down (this includes me) , just being real. We are not the model types here. We are not the studs. When you are fat in a kb, you look needy. When you are old in a kb, you look desperate, When you are ugly in a kb, you look lonely. When you are bald in a kb, you look unconfident. When you come dressed like a state worker with your aloha shirt in a kb, you look like home-life is not so great. When you look geeky in a kb, you look inexperienced. I my case 4 out of 6, means I got to be very creative to not give the girls an impression of desperation and need. I'm pretty sure the male hosts in japan could see this in the girls that came to the bars, and were just licking their chops as to how easy it would be to part them from their money. I can count on my left hand (my J. O. Hand) , at all kb's I drink at total each night, the number of guys I would say are the "tall, dark and handsome type". You know, the guys that can get a girl in the "real" world anytime, and are here only to hunt for NSA sex. When Oldee says,"The girls can do the SAME, most times better", I'd remove the "most", he means your unimpressive first impression, your lack of confidence, your look of starvation for sex, attention, human touch, etc, makes you a target, not a challenge. Ever notice when the girl 1st sits down with you, she usually wipes her mouth with her hand? She's drooling over the thoughts of an early retirement. Play only the gambling machines for a week, so you don't look like you care if a girl sits by you. It at least gives the impression that you are there for other reasons. Buy only the bar backs drinks and make friends with them, they are usually local guys, then the girls will see you are not only there for them. What's the worst that could happen if the only drink you buy for the night is for a guy? You'll make a good friend who's a great ally in the kb business. The girls are watching, just like me. Who do you think I learned my craft from? But I know most guys are here for their fantasy girl. Lets face it guys. 99% of us guys are not their fantasy guy. The sooner you figure out why she's sitting next to you, the richer you'll be. Trust me, it ain't love at 1st sight, unless she's the one with the golden retriever. Bring some game (and I don't mean the app on your ipod phone) and you can have fun and cheap thrills, I said "cheap", or you'll be falling to same trap over and over again. Oldee, here's another saying that applies,"Deja vu, all over again".
ILTW is pulling out the stops and giving you guys some real invaluable info. I can see Uki's eyes getting big, LOL. When ILTW talks about bringing your game, he means red zone inside the 20 offense going for the score. You better put the girls on their heels and catch them when they are vulnerable with their mind and hands out of position. You have to have the killer instinct to put the game away. After buying all those drinks only to be stopped at the 1 yard line after driving 80 yards is a momentum changer and wasted drive. This is why teams practice their red zone offense constantly. You got to know your game well and see it through, otherwise no sense try. Be different and make them interested in you using what works for you. What may work for ILTW may not work for me and visa versa. His may be west coast offense while mine is spread. Ok, here is an example from my disco days. I used take out a $5 bill, go up to the hot girls table and say: Excuse me, but I think this $5 fell from your table. Theyd say they don't think so but I made a fake argument insisting that it did. Then I said, well use it to buy your next drinks at least. That was the opening. You still need game to really score. This was the icebreaker for kapuing them from the other guys since I was the nice honest guy, LOL. Work your strengths and set yourself apart. Want more tactics speciffically for the kb? May I suggest ALOHA KB Tours? LOL
Iliketowatch
05-11-11, 02:26
I think I have an advantage over most of you. Hear me out. I have 3 kbg's pursuing me to marry them. Not bragging by any stretch. I'll say it again. I have 3 old hag 50+ kbg's pursuing me for marriage. I have first-hand experience on what it is to be the pursued, and not the pursuer in the bar. I am the male kbb. Whenever I enter their bar, they usually buy me a drink, not expecting anything in return. Bring me pupus from the kitchen no charge. They even go to their cars to get t-shirts and gifts to give to me, that they've won in golf tournaments (cheapos, I want a LV wallet). All this sound familiar? Drinks, food, gifts and attention. I know they are holding out for the one special day that I come in and say, hey gorgeous, lets get married. But I've already told them no way. But they still hold out. Only hearing what they want to hear. Shower me with affection. They don't ask me to buy them drinks, not wanting to scare me away. I think I have the inside track to seeing what a kbg will do when she really wants you (not loves you) because I don't think they know what love is. They play the guy game in reverse. Why? I think it's because that's the only game they've come to know. Our game. So do these gestures of love make me suddenly want to give it up for some 50 year old nani? Give me a little credit, I got some standards. So why would your girl give it up to you for your gestures? Only you can answer that. If I did, it would be considered a flame. We, the kbg and me, just milk the benefits for all we can get without giving in. Like the star quarterback taking cash from the boosters. Here great one, how much do you need, we are just thankful you chose us. And when these three kbg's get tired of waiting for me, I just find myself another oldee (not you Oldee) , old kbg who is lonely and wants to marry me. It's the korean bar cycle coming full circle. Too bad it wasn't three 21 year olds. Damn, I might have to break my 1st rule then. Oh, if your wondering, I never left my wallet with these kbg's to make them stay and save my chair while I take a piss.
I can see Uki's eyes getting big, LOL.That wasn't the only thing that got big. Got a hard on by these posts. Gad damn. My goodness. Stop please! I'm going to burst! Muahahaha
That wasn't the only thing that got big. Got a hard on by these posts. Gad damn. My goodness. Stop please! I'm going to burst! MuahahahaLOL, doesn't matter if you did have a hard on or not bro, you just made my day with a big laugh. I just hope guys understand this stuff came from decades of being stupid and spending choke $. Don't take this info lightly, if you see successes, it was written about here. If you see failiures, it was written about here. Use the info and have fun.
LOL, doesn't matter if you did have a hard on or not bro, you just made my day with a big laugh. I just hope guys understand this stuff came from decades of being stupid and spending choke $. Don't take this info lightly, if you see successes, it was written about here. If you see failiures, it was written about here. Use the info and have fun.I'm serious. I enjoy it. When I come on USA SG and see new reports in bold by you or ILTW, I'm like: "Oh shit! A new report from Oldee and ILTW! Oh my gosh, the report is long too! Yes!" Can't wait to read it.
I thought I post this here or Jackson is going to post another.
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this forum is to provide information to help improve yourself to maximize female sexual attraction.
LOL j / k Jackson.
The girls all know your games to get close, sex, play, etc. They know what your plan is, in trying to do something other than buying drinks to win them over. I was just trying to be nice in trying to expose guys "game" by using humor instead of coming flat out and saying what you guys think is a smart creative tactic to win the bg over is actually in the kbg beginners playbook 1980. Page 1, what a customer will do if he doesn't want to buy you a whole lot of drinks but wants to set himself apart from the crowd. They know you bring food to try to win them over, they know you drive them home to get an inside track, they know you like being the chosen one to watch their purse, they know you like to give them a massage so you can be the nice guy, they all know you tell them to just drink tea because you "really" care about their health, etc, etc, etc, they know all the elementary tactics you use to try and make yourself stand out from the rest. They know. Trust me, they know. It's like going to a nightclub and using the "nice weather tonight" or "do you come here often" or "what's your sign" lines. Old tactics that worked 20 years ago, only will label you today, as simple minded, awkward with the opposite sex, and easy prey for a kbg. You'll only stand out from the rest, because you are an easy read. While the "rest" are getting all the action by paying, you are being labeled as the "I never have to be hungry when I'm with him guy" or "Free massage, can save my $40 bucks and spend them on smokes now guy". If you don't want to pay for play, and don't want to be labeled, then you must join the 1% who gets what they want with innovation, creativity, tact, smoothness, etc. Like Jackson said, this thread is for getting sex, so I'm not writing to all you lover boys, who, when given the rare chance to finally sleep with your beloved kbg, will decline, because a gentleman would never do that, and you'll patiently wait until you are married to her guy. Bring some game. Some fresh game. Punt on 2nd down. Intentionally walk the 1st batter. Shoot a hook shot for a free throw. Tee off with your putter. Mix it up man! They put up a great defense, but a great offensive is never out of any game. Don't run, run, pass, punt (right, tomey?). Ever wonder why they like world cup soccer? They want you to think football is soccer. They kick and cheat, and make it really hard to score. Sound like your girl? No be the waterboy, get in the game, right Bobby Boucher. Show them what real "football" is! Yah, Lingerie Bowl! But remember, no matter how good your game is, most of them are just in it for the money, so punt when you got to.The problem, alot of guys are 1 dimensional and 1 track minded. That's why its easy to pickup and read. They focus on other things but not on themselves. If you don't say the same things, do the same things, talk in the same tone of voice, or act the same way, you're different. The part I enjoy is when a woman thinks she got you down to categorize / label you but, you throw her off. Then she's like: "oh wow, I never thought you're like that" Hehe, she assumes and then tries to figure you out. Women like to assume and try to read a man out thinking she know the type of person that you are. If you throw her offguard and keep her on her toes, you don't come across as boring. You're different. She's thinking: "What else does this guy going to say and do that's going to surprise me?" Here's the thing, most guys respond and reply with normal typical answers. They play it safe because they fear the reaction from a woman. Fricken boring! Hehe. Does it catch a female offguard and light up her eyes? Not really. But, if you said something completely off the wall, she would never think you would say such a thing but you did. Heh, just don't say something that may offend her though. Then she's like: "Wow, I never thought I'd hear something like that come out of your mouth!" Then your like: "Why not?" She says: "Because you don't look like the type who would say that" Hehe, she assumed you fall in a certain category but, then you proved her wrong. In your face! Hehe.
Being safe, conservative, acting all gentlemanlike all the time is boring. No excitement. It's like you want to shake him up and get him drunk so that he does loosen up. It's irritating actually. Hehe. How can a woman be mentally / physically be aroused / turned on by these types? They to goody goody and have no sense of adventure. I'm bored myself hanging with these types. They only sit and watch but, don't contribute. Not saying don't be a gentleman but, be more exciting and daring. Take her on a roller coaster ride to turn her on. I'm not referring to the magic mountain type roller coaster hehe. Sometimes, you don't realize that you are turning her on and she suddenly all over you. That's because you wasn't focused primarily on impressing her. Primarily, you do things for yourself and to have fun. But, without you noticing, you're also lowering her defenses. Secondarily, you're increasing the attraction. Impressions are fake, short lived and don't last. You eventually hit a wall. Then she gets bored. But, if you're mysterious (Not strange / weird) and unpredictable it just keeps going. You're like a puzzle that she hasn't solved yet.
When you respect and value yourself, you wouldn't give a damn what other people think and what she may think. You're not affected by peoples criticizm. You do things to please yourself and be happy because that's how you are. Not because you want to impress others. Some guys like to boast and brag just to cover up their insecurity and to validate themselves to others. The women can see through this. Not only women but, people in general can see it to. Having a tactic, game, feeling confident, saying the right things, etc won't matter and can't go into effect if you're feeling down and depressed on yourself. Examples.
"Who would want me? I'm ugly"
"Why would she be interested in an old guy like me?"
"Why would she sit with me? I'm fat!"
"I'm to shy to talk to her. I don't know what to talk about?"
"I don't want to make A, people are going to laugh at me"
You basically rejecting yourself if you think like this. Self esteem is low and confidence is low. You need to get yourself out of this mode first. It makes you even less attractive and unworthy if your mindset is negative. Look at the hot women. What makes them desirable? They focus on themselves and improve to look their best. If not, they get chubby and fat. They go gym and work out. They work on their tan, they dress to impress. They even do plastic surgery. They'll lose their looks if they don't constantly work on it. Because they do this, it opens and broadens their options. That's why alot of guys chase after them. If you do the same, it broadens your options. You stand a better chance. If you have weakpoints and you realize them, work on it. When you improve, how or why would anyone complain about it? You'll receive compliments."Wow, what happened to you? You looking great! Can I give you a BBBJCIM? Shit, you're looking delicious!" Hehe.
First and foremost, focus on yourself. You need to respect yourself and accept the person that you are. Feeling down about your looks / appearance? Work on it to better improve yourself. Overweight? Work out and shed the pounds off. This builds up confidence and raises your self-esteem. When you build confidence, you're more relaxed and not pressured by people and your surrounding. You are in utter control and not intimidated by others. Sure, you may never be as young, good looking, or have the money as another person but, don't compare yourself with others. Challenge yourself. The main thing that matters is that you improve. Maximize your true potential. It starts with the way you think. If someone tells you to be confident and to say and do the right things, for that to even happen and follow through, you need to feel good about yourself and by that comes improvement. Of course, this won't always work on all women and you won't please everyone. Some women don't care and are too driven by money. That's ok. Don't have that bring you down. It's the experience that matters. Learn from it. Besides, even if it doesn't work out with a certain woman, So what? It wasn't your main concern. As mentioned earlier, you were primarily focused on yourself and improving yourself. You still benefit.
Not all women will be attracted to you so don't take it personal. You could be a good looking guy and still get turned down. In fact, you could be good looking but, lack the confidence. You may have money also but, still get turned down. You can have money but, not be confident with women. Women get turned down also when you don't bother to buy them a drink. In fact, one of the BGs mentioned she don't feel comfortable approaching a guy asking for a drink, only to get turned down. She has mama send her over to the table. Some women can take it personal because she feels maybe you don't find her attractive. I had a female said this: "Why? I'm not good enough?" I'm like: "What do you think? Of course not! You're just not worthy to bask in my greatness. Leave!" LOL just kidding on that part. I didn't say that. Hehe. This is where women roll their eyes and think: "Oh my gawd! He is so full of Shit!" Yup. I am. BTW, where's the bathroom? Need to unload.
What has this thread become? The uki, iltw, and oldee forum now- LOL. Got to admit that thread on having 3 50 year old bar girls pursuing oldee for marriage got me all cracked up!
Very well put!
You should boil that down into a book and seminar and start schooling insecure and unconfident mongerers.
Would be just like any of the numerous self-help / life-coach deals, but you could tailor it specifically to the KB scene.
"Take my course and you will be 100% guaranteed to spend half the $$ and get twice the action at your local KB!"
Hahah!
Could be some money in that!
What has this thread become? The uki, iltw, and oldee forum now- LOL. Got to admit that thread on having 3 50 year old bar girls pursuing oldee for marriage got me all cracked up!Na Carmello bro, was ILTW that get the kbgs after him who I passed on to him since I get 40+ bgs after me now, LOL. Sorry about posting so much but better than having a dead thread imo. I like your posts and you should join in more bro. If my posts are too boring and long, just scroll down or up and ignore with my apologies guys.
Very well put!
You should boil that down into a book and seminar and start schooling insecure and unconfident mongerers.
Would be just like any of the numerous self-help / life-coach deals, but you could tailor it specifically to the KB scene.
"Take my course and you will be 100% guaranteed to spend half the $$ and get twice the action at your local KB!"
Hahah!
Could be some money in that! Good Idea. Alot of good stuff there Uki bro. Let me put it from another angle if I may. Just love yourself as a person worth loving. NOT in an egotistical way tho. Although its a requirement for any good relationship, I don't reccomend any relationship with kbgirls, but its needed to be more ATTRACTIVE to them so you can score. A plain looking guy can seem somehow handsome, a handsome guy can seem ugly, all because of their 'beingness. ' You seen plain janes seem pretty and pretty girls seem ugly, its all about their beingness of how they feel about themselves. Its literally like a human MAGNET or anti magnet as the case may be. Its what you call: He or she has that 'special something'. You can't explain it but you KNOW when its there or not. For example, I suspect ILTW has that and probably better looking than he claims he isn't. (provoking him to reply) , hehe. As Uki said, what you feel on the inside projects on the OUTSIDE to other people. In this case the girls we want to make attracted to us so we can bang them, hehe.
The natural power to charm and inspire others; keyword is 'natural'. People don't understand why they like you; they just do. Although the KBGs are totally into your wallet, they will actually make your spent $ worth your while without much coaxing. There are guys who spend and get nothing but played and dismayed.
Like you guys say, you need to be different from the rest of the pack and charm the KBG pros who've heard everything in the book. How you do that? Condition their brains for the desired effects.
Good Idea. Alot of good stuff there Uki bro. Let me put it from another angle if I may. Just love yourself as a person worth loving. NOT in an egotistical way tho. Although its a requirement for any good relationship, I don't reccomend any relationship with kbgirls, but its needed to be more ATTRACTIVE to them so you can score. A plain looking guy can seem somehow handsome, a handsome guy can seem ugly, all because of their 'beingness. ' You seen plain janes seem pretty and pretty girls seem ugly, its all about their beingness of how they feel about themselves. Its literally like a human MAGNET or anti magnet as the case may be. Its what you call: He or she has that 'special something'. You can't explain it but you KNOW when its there or not. For example, I suspect ILTW has that and probably better looking than he claims he isn't. (provoking him to reply) , hehe. As Uki said, what you feel on the inside projects on the OUTSIDE to other people. In this case the girls we want to make attracted to us so we can bang them, hehe.Oldee your post with ILTW and Uki are great I also can't leave out what some of the other senior members have posted. All the posts give a lot of good insights and ideas on how to increase a guys chance of play if they can understand how the game works. This is just my cheap 2 cents from a noob!
Iliketowatch
05-12-11, 14:50
What has this thread become? The uki, iltw, and oldee forum now- LOL. Got to admit that thread on having 3 50 year old bar girls pursuing oldee for marriage got me all cracked up!Would love to hear from everybody. Despite my name, I Like To Read too. Always interesting to hear different points of view. No one going flame you, except me and oldee (nah, only joking). Though sometimes we no agree, I can guaranteed you, we all respect everyone opinion.
Iliketowatch
05-12-11, 15:46
Na Carmello bro, was ILTW that get the kbgs after him who I passed on to him since I get 40+ bgs after me now, LOL.Eh no tease my wives. No can jeopardize my pupu supply. I know I can be a trusted friend but I also know I would be a pilau husband. So I might play with their minds, and occasionally their bodies, but I never fu*k with their emotions. No like get bache. You guys know about my run in with the kahuna guy. Some stuff is off limits. If the kbg likes me for who I am, it's the only way I'll have it. Why chill with someone who doesn't like you. I may want to scr*w them, but I'll never lead them on to something, anything, I'm not going to deliver in the end. Unless they like play the emotion game on me, then they get the ILTW Bache right back. Here's a game to see how true her actions really are. If I met a hottie, I tell her,"I come back tomorrow sugar and buy you a drink". Next day, I call Oldee to meet me at said bar. We go inside and I buy her 1 drink and introduce Oldee as my friend. After 1 drink we leave and I tell her,"I come back tomorrow". Next day, I wait in the car and Oldee goes in by himself. Hottie asks Oldee, where ILTW stay. Oldee says, he suppose to come, maybe something happened. Before the girl comes back to ask Oldee again where I stay, he picks up his phone and says Sh*t, ILTW just got a DUI. He tells the girl quick, give me $500, I need to bail him out. If the girl runs to momma to borrow the cash or if she asks all her kbg friends to chip in for the bail, then she might be a keeper. If she says, Fu*k, I needed that $20 to buy smokes, hey Oldee like buy me one drink, then you know. I'll walk in the bar and she'll say, hey, I though you was DUI? I'll say, I was. I was doing my DUI (Doing Undercover Investigation) on you. .081% No pass. Bye. Cost for knowledge 1 drink. Look on her face, priceless. Remember the kbg anthem, Warm Body. Cold Heart, Cold Body. Warm Heart (anybody seen my jacket) , KBG Body. No Heart. Knowledge is power.
Iliketowatch
05-12-11, 16:16
Oldee your post with ILTW and Uki are great I also can't leave out what some of the other senior members have posted. All the posts give a lot of good insights and ideas on how to increase a guys chance of play if they can understand how the game works. This is just my cheap 2 cents from a noob!Always like helping newbies. I'm just giving back for all the advise I got when I was young and new. Good Karma. Did you know the founder of costco was a long time kb monger? He fashioned costco's business model after the kb's. Walk in and say, wow! I'll take this, I'll take that, and before you realize it, it's, OK mister your bill is $200 today. WTF? I've never walked out of costco with a tab under $100. The difference is, at costco, I get to take home what I bought. So don't get caught up in the frenzy, just have fun, enjoy the free samples when you can get it, and hopefully they won't start charging us a $50 annual fee just to shop there.
Would love to hear from everybody. Despite my name, I Like To Read too. Always interesting to hear different points of view. No one going flame you, except me and oldee (nah, only joking). Though sometimes we no agree, I can guaranteed you, we all respect everyone opinion.Yeah, please share your thoughts, ideas, questions and even flames of me and ILTW, (we desparate). Even the most trivial point is appreaciated. Lets kick around ideas so we all learn how to get more pussy. Put your dolla or us guys 3. 49cents worth in too. Me and ILTW has a you can flame us and we no can flame back for the first 10 postas. Anyone out there reading this? Trust me, I go kbars..)
Eh no tease my wives. No can jeopardize my pupu supply. I know I can be a trusted friend but I also know I would be a pilau husband. So I might play with their minds, and occasionally their bodies, but I never fu*k with their emotions. No like get bache. You guys know about my run in with the kahuna guy. Some stuff is off limits. If the kbg likes me for who I am, it's the only way I'll have it. Why chill with someone who doesn't like you. I may want to scr*w them, but I'll never lead them on to something, anything, I'm not going to deliver in the end. Unless they like play the emotion game on me, then they get the ILTW Bache right back. Here's a game to see how true her actions really are. If I met a hottie, I tell her,"I come back tomorrow sugar and buy you a drink". Next day, I call Oldee to meet me at said bar. We go inside and I buy her 1 drink and introduce Oldee as my friend. After 1 drink we leave and I tell her,"I come back tomorrow". Next day, I wait in the car and Oldee goes in by himself. Hottie asks Oldee, where ILTW stay. Oldee says, he suppose to come, maybe something happened. Before the girl comes back to ask Oldee again where I stay, he picks up his phone and says Sh*t, ILTW just got a DUI. He tells the girl quick, give me $500, I need to bail him out. If the girl runs to momma to borrow the cash or if she asks all her kbg friends to chip in for the bail, then she might be a keeper. If she says, Fu*k, I needed that $20 to buy smokes, hey Oldee like buy me one drink, then you know. I'll walk in the bar and she'll say, hey, I though you was DUI? I'll say, I was. I was doing my DUI (Doing Undercover Investigation) on you. .081% No pass. Bye. Cost for knowledge 1 drink. Look on her face, priceless. Remember the kbg anthem, Warm Body. Cold Heart, Cold Body. Warm Heart (anybody seen my jacket) , KBG Body. No Heart. Knowledge is power.You can save even MORE with the pre-is she worth the effort test. Going only cost you 1 beer each for me and ILTW sitting at the bar. GARANTEE correct answer! We get one special coin we flip. Was never wrong, ever! 1 side says NO! DANGER WILL ROBINSON, the other side says KEEP LOOKING. Eh, no tell nobody about our secret coin ok?
Oldee your post with ILTW and Uki are great I also can't leave out what some of the other senior members have posted. All the posts give a lot of good insights and ideas on how to increase a guys chance of play if they can understand how the game works. This is just my cheap 2 cents from a noob!Your post is worth alot more than 2 cents to me. Its why guys like ILTW Uki, HL Aflack etc post, so that maybe guys can make use of the info. Its worth at least nickle, Na na na bro, only joke, its priceless, minus 3. 47cents.) BTW, I'm a noob too, big mout one tho.
Your post is worth alot more than 2 cents to me. Its why guys like ILTW Uki, HL Aflack etc post, so that maybe guys can make use of the info. Its worth at least nickle, Na na na bro, only joke, its priceless, minus 3. 47cents.) BTW, I'm a noob too, big mout one tho.Thank you for the repsonses. Yah I do agree with everything that you guys have said and mentioned. I do have to add that no matter what happens from what someone others might post but "YMMV". The bottom line will be what "you" want and how you would like to spend "your" money. Whether if its play you want or not you need to be the one having fun with your money not the KBG.
Iliketowatch
05-17-11, 03:50
The good ole, love at 1st sight score. If, by any chance, you are HER "love at 1st sight", you are in my bruddah (well sort of, I'll explain later). Why is it the least talked about? It's the word "sight". We (the majority) don't have the looks to allow this effect to take hold on them, IMO. But it does happen. I've seen it. Knew bar friends who experienced it. But they all had "a" look. Not to sound gay, but they were all "good" looking. Money played no factor. Tall, handsome, not fat,"james dean" edge to them. But don't despair my friends, just because she "loves" you, doesn't mean she's "it". They all come with baggage. Emotionally, mentally, etc. It just may means you are having sex with a psycho, possessive, stalker. In my book, me picking the girl, after careful screening, is a lot more comforting than she picking me. I don't want to count the steak knives everytime I go to sleep. Small ILTW might get hard when I sleep, but it aint no match for a unhappy kbg. I've seen them slice up frozen blood sausage like butter. And they weren't even angry. Love at 1st sight: blessing or curse? Chalk one up for being ugly! I aint that horny.
Good Idea. Alot of good stuff there Uki bro. Let me put it from another angle if I may. Just love yourself as a person worth loving. NOT in an egotistical way tho. Although its a requirement for any good relationship, I don't reccomend any relationship with kbgirls, but its needed to be more ATTRACTIVE to them so you can score. A plain looking guy can seem somehow handsome, a handsome guy can seem ugly, all because of their 'beingness. ' You seen plain janes seem pretty and pretty girls seem ugly, its all about their beingness of how they feel about themselves. Its literally like a human MAGNET or anti magnet as the case may be. Its what you call: He or she has that 'special something'. You can't explain it but you KNOW when its there or not. For example, I suspect ILTW has that and probably better looking than he claims he isn't. (provoking him to reply) , hehe. As Uki said, what you feel on the inside projects on the OUTSIDE to other people. In this case the girls we want to make attracted to us so we can bang them, hehe.Yup. For anything to even happen, it starts from within. Whether you young, old, skinny, fat, handsome or ugly. Loving yourself (start kissing yourself in the mirror) first and being happy is critical. It majorly boosts your attractiveness already. You respect yourself and think highly of yourself. Someone who is very friendly and smiles does make them attractive also. It brings an aura of warmth. BGs or women turning you down, guys criticizing you won't phase you man.
Getting a GF is not and should no be the key to getting motivated in life. If she dumps you, then what? Back to feeling down and depressed again. Focus on yourself and supe up yourself. She won't dump you, you'll dump her ass if she disrespecting you. Start with dropping a new engineblock, headers and exhaust. Then, do some bodywork, change the wheels and get a fresh paintjob. Fine tune and tweak everything. After you've gone through this modification and transformation, time for startum up and sample the goods! Why be stock (normal) version when you can be suped up (modified) version. The woman is just along for the ride.
I bet you, guys who needy and desperate, are not really happy with themselves. They are bothered by something. It's pretty much guaranteed to be true.
Yup. For anything to even happen, it starts from within. Whether you young, old, skinny, fat, handsome or ugly. Loving yourself (start kissing yourself in the mirror) first and being happy is critical. It majorly boosts your attractiveness already. You respect yourself and think highly of yourself. Someone who is very friendly and smiles does make them attractive also. It brings an aura of warmth. BGs or women turning you down, guys criticizing you won't phase you man.
Getting a GF is not and should no be the key to getting motivated in life. If she dumps you, then what? Back to feeling down and depressed again. Focus on yourself and supe up yourself. She won't dump you, you'll dump her ass if she disrespecting you. Start with dropping a new engineblock, headers and exhaust. Then, do some bodywork, change the wheels and get a fresh paintjob. Fine tune and tweak everything. After you've gone through this modification and transformation, time for startum up and sample the goods! Why be stock (normal) version when you can be suped up (modified) version. The woman is just along for the ride.
I bet you, guys who needy and desperate, are not really happy with themselves. They are bothered by something. It's pretty much guaranteed to be true. LOL dr. Phil, um dr. Uki. Honestly, girls are a two edged sword. Nothing feels better than when you're into someone and seem to be getting somewhere, and nothing feels worse than when you're having lady problems as I'm mumbling, fucken bitchh, fucken bitchh under my breath. LOL. As for talking about korean working girls, i don't feel i've ever been screwed over, just that i had to learn how to navigate the territory... For example and as sick as this seems, Uki himself and a bunch of others report in massage parlor reports the service of a certain working girl, around the same period i'm doing her bb at my place for free and getting to f'ing close than i should be. But this comes with the territory- all of us are fucking the same girls. Yet, i be honest with her and tell her who i previously fucked and she gets bitter. I throw out a rediculous number about the amount of men she fucked and she replies, "More than that."
The good ole, love at 1st sight score. If, by any chance, you are HER "love at 1st sight", you are in my bruddah (well sort of, I'll explain later). Why is it the least talked about? It's the word "sight". We (the majority) don't have the looks to allow this effect to take hold on them, IMO. But it does happen. I've seen it. Knew bar friends who experienced it. But they all had "a" look. Not to sound gay, but they were all "good" looking. Money played no factor. Tall, handsome, not fat,"james dean" edge to them. But don't despair my friends, just because she "loves" you, doesn't mean she's "it". They all come with baggage. Emotionally, mentally, etc. It just may means you are having sex with a psycho, possessive, stalker. In my book, me picking the girl, after careful screening, is a lot more comforting than she picking me. I don't want to count the steak knives everytime I go to sleep. Small ILTW might get hard when I sleep, but it aint no match for a unhappy kbg. I've seen them slice up frozen blood sausage like butter. And they weren't even angry. Love at 1st sight: blessing or curse? Chalk one up for being ugly! I aint that horny.Well you can count me out, unless she likes her men a bit chubby.
Is it worth the hassle? The sex is great because no ordinary woman knows how to please a man like a professional. Like most of us here we have had normal women in our lives who we were married to, trying to marry, planning on marrying, or hoping to marry. Then they turned out to be the worst nightmare because after you marry them they don't want sex and only want to go shopping to spend money, or they only want to eat and get fat and not care about what they look like because they got a husband and they are now entitiled to look like shit and act like shit. Or, sometimes just turn into a *****. Whateva the case may be they turn and turn for the worst. So, like any guy we look for pussy elsewhere, and low and behold we find some high quality shit in the AMPs. The AMP chicks, suk and fuk and suk and fuk all day long. They become highly trained sex machines and they *most of them) know how to make a man happy. Bottom line is do you want a ***** wife with no sex and sleep with a big fat pig, or do you want a btch wife that fuks and suks you everyday and drinks and smokes and spends all your money, but still fuks and suks you all day. Well?
If you meet a girl from Japan, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Korea, China, Singapore, which do you think you will be most successful with? And in what order. Because I telling you guys right now, they are better than the ones who have come to USA and learned how to manipulate the system and men and suk every penny from your wallets.
My buddy was smart. He married a Philippines chick and brought her to the USA. She had kids and then when they got around 10years old he retired and asked her if she missed her familiy in PI, and of course she says yeah. So, she is now a US citizen. But they decide to move back to PI and live there. He got retirement and they live like rich people there and she is happy and he is happy. So they lived happily ever after.
My other buddies bring over and marry chicks from Korea and China, they live together for a few years then the Korean and Chinese want a divorce and they want money. Divorce court and they loose their pants.
My other buddy brings over a Japanese and after a few years she gets tired and moves back to Japan and just leaves him.
The Thailand chick gets fat and ugly and he dumps her and runs.
The Singapore chick is pretty and loves to fuk. They still together.
The Vietnamese chick is a **** and fuks everybody and he gets dovorce and she gets some money and she is gone.
Don't get married, have a part time GF, full time side fuk and enjoy life.
At least not a Korean one. Why? Because I can count on two fingers the ones that work out. Almost everyone results in divorce. If you like Asian women, check out Foreign Ladies on the web. They have 1000s of beautiful girls on there. Particularly from the PI! They have profiles, pics, even videos of the girls. Much safer than a kbg who has it in her dna to grub for money. They are physically beautiful but it is a cultural thing and that's just the way it is. Japan not so much. PI girls are just happy to be out of there. Good Catholic values, family oriented, which can be a slight downside as you may suddenly have a houseful of relatives. Kbgs are for fun and banging, otherwise be very careful. They are experts at separating you from your money.
Is it worth the hassle? Don't get married, have a part time GF, full time side fuk and enjoy life.As usual, your posts are based on personal experience and include examples that serve as evidence; the posts also crack me up due to its honesty and frankness. This is genuine stuff and hope others will at least consider the importance if your outrageously candid lessons.
Bottom line is do you want a ***** wife with no sex and sleep with a big fat pig, or do you want a btch wife that fuks and suks you everyday and drinks and smokes and spends all your money, but still fuks and suks you all day. Well?You not supposed to ask hard questions :). Just kidding. This is one of your best posts (I like the 'low and behold' part). I know/have known guys in most of your examples and it was basically the same.
Hello Kitty
07-30-11, 23:03
At least not a Korean one. Why? Because I can count on two fingers the ones that work out. Almost everyone results in divorce. If you like Asian women, check out Foreign Ladies on the web. They have 1000s of beautiful girls on there. Particularly from the PI! They have profiles, pics, even videos of the girls. Much safer than a kbg who has it in her dna to grub for money. They are physically beautiful but it is a cultural thing and that's just the way it is. Japan not so much. PI girls are just happy to be out of there. Good Catholic values, family oriented, which can be a slight downside as you may suddenly have a houseful of relatives. Kbgs are for fun and banging, otherwise be very careful. They are experts at separating you from your money.This is the fucking best I read so far.
Hello Kitty
07-30-11, 23:11
At least not a Korean one. Why? Because I can count on two fingers the ones that work out. Almost everyone results in divorce. If you like Asian women, check out Foreign Ladies on the web. They have 1000s of beautiful girls on there. Particularly from the PI! They have profiles, pics, even videos of the girls. Much safer than a kbg who has it in her dna to grub for money. They are physically beautiful but it is a cultural thing and that's just the way it is. Japan not so much. PI girls are just happy to be out of there. Good Catholic values, family oriented, which can be a slight downside as you may suddenly have a houseful of relatives. Kbgs are for fun and banging, otherwise be very careful. They are experts at separating you from your money.This is the fucking best I read so far.
At least not a Korean one. Why? Because I can count on two fingers the ones that work out. Almost everyone results in divorce. If you like Asian women, check out Foreign Ladies on the web. They have 1000s of beautiful girls on there. Particularly from the PI! They have profiles, pics, even videos of the girls. Much safer than a kbg who has it in her dna to grub for money. They are physically beautiful but it is a cultural thing and that's just the way it is. Japan not so much. PI girls are just happy to be out of there. Good Catholic values, family oriented, which can be a slight downside as you may suddenly have a houseful of relatives. Kbgs are for fun and banging, otherwise be very careful. They are experts at separating you from your money.Heh, I bet if the Korean BGs read this, they'll be like: "Hey, don't blame us, it's the mans fault. They don't allow us full control in the relationship. Plus, what's the big deal about a man spending money on his wife? If he loves her, he should be spending money on her. That's why we left the bar to get married, for someone to be buying us things and treating us. If not, no sense get married. Right? We should just stick to what we doing working at the bar. Besides, we can't force you men to marry us, you took it upon yourselves to agree to marriage"
Heh, I bet if the Korean BGs read this, they'll be like: "Hey, don't blame us, it's the mans fault. They don't allow us full control in the relationship. Plus, what's the big deal about a man spending money on his wife? If he loves her, he should be spending money on her. That's why we left the bar to get married, for someone to be buying us things and treating us. If not, no sense get married. Right? We should just stick to what we doing working at the bar. Besides, we can't force you men to marry us, you took it upon yourselves to agree to marriage"That's how "those types" of people feel about blame and who's at fault; things not going their way all the time. What's meant by "those types" is the psychotic; the psychopath. You'll notice that KBGs will not take responsibility for their shortcomings; it's never their fault; it's always someone or something else at fault; the blame is not theirs.
This sickness permits KBGs to operate in the cold, heartless, immoral manner characteristic of serial criminals. Buying them nekos justifies their existence and permits them to feel guiltless in whatever is done to get "high": money. NEON and save a KBG.
Hello Kitty
08-01-11, 02:17
This is the fucking best I read so far.Oh shit my bad. Sorry KBGmongerwas not might for you but might for.
Is it worth the hassle? The sex is great because no ordinary woman knows how to please a man like a professional. Like most of us here we have had normal women in our lives who we were married to, trying to marry, planning on marrying, or hoping to marry. Then they turned out to be the worst nightmare because after you marry them they don't want sex and only want to go shopping to spend money, or they only want to eat and get fat and not care about what they look like because they got a husband and they are now entitiled to look like shit and act like shit. Or, sometimes just turn into a. Whateva the case may be they turn and turn for the worst. So, like any guy we look for pussy elsewhere, and low and behold we find some high quality shit in the AMPs. The AMP chicks, suk and fuk and suk and fuk all day long. They become highly trained sex machines and they *most of them) know how to make a man happy. Bottom line is do you want a * wife with no sex and sleep with a big fat pig, or do you want a btch wife that fuks and suks you everyday and drinks and smokes and spends all your money, but still fuks and suks you all day. Well?
If you meet a girl from Japan, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Korea, China, Singapore, which do you think you will be most successful with? And in what order. Because I telling you guys right now, they are better than the ones who have come to USA and learned how to manipulate the system and men and suk every penny from your wallets.
My buddy was smart. He married a Philippines chick and brought her to the USA. She had kids and then when they got around 10years old he retired and asked her if she missed her familiy in PI, and of course she says yeah. So, she is now a US citizen. But they decide to move back to PI and live there. He got retirement and they live like rich people there and she is happy and he is happy. So they lived happily ever after.
My other buddies bring over and marry chicks from Korea and China, they live together for a few years then the Korean and Chinese want a divorce and they want money. Divorce court and they loose their pants.
My other buddy brings over a Japanese and after a few years she gets tired and moves back to Japan and just leaves him.
The Thailand chick gets fat and ugly and he dumps her and runs.
The Singapore chick is pretty and loves to fuk. They still together.
The Vietnamese chick is a * and fuks everybody and he gets dovorce and she gets some money and she is gone.
Don't get married, have a part time GF, full time side fuk and enjoy life.Thats what I get for posting on a android phone.
Yep don't get married. 7 years of bs and child support is not a day at Disneyland.
That's how "those types" of people feel about blame and who's at fault; things not going their way all the time. What's meant by "those types" is the psychotic; the psychopath. You'll notice that KBGs will not take responsibility for their shortcomings; it's never their fault; it's always someone or something else at fault; the blame is not theirs.
This sickness permits KBGs to operate in the cold, heartless, immoral manner characteristic of serial criminals. Buying them nekos justifies their existence and permits them to feel guiltless in whatever is done to get "high": money. NEON and save a KBG.KBG's only think of themselves first. They always lie and make up excuses so that in their mind they are right. They will do whatever they want no matter what anybody says.
When you buy a KBG drinks they always talk to their friend about work and ignore you. Then they say sorry like nothing is wrong. If their friend wants to talk to them then they should pay us $20 for taking up our time. Maybe all KBG's are psychos! If anybody can figure them out they should make a manual and sell them with a NEON shirt. LOL!
When you buy a KBG drinks they always talk to their friend about work and ignore you. Then they say sorry like nothing is wrong. If their friend wants to talk to them then they should pay us $20 for taking up our time. Maybe all KBG's are psychos! If anybody can figure them out they should make a manual and sell them with a NEON shirt. LOL!
Are you f-ing kidding? They do this the same reason a dog licks his balls. Because he can. They are doing this to you because you let it happen. Pitch a *****. You don't like it? Speak up. Otherwise, STFU. If they can get away with this behavior, they willl. I don't know what this NEON crap is, but you are getting dissed bigtime for a reason. She does not respect you as a man. You got worked.
KBG's only think of themselves first. They always lie and make up excuses so that in their mind they are right. They will do whatever they want no matter what anybody says.Um, yeah. Duhh? At some point, you thought KBGs were there to think of someone other than themselves? Your naiveté is showing.
When you buy a KBG drinks they always talk to their friend about work and ignore you. Then they say sorry like nothing is wrong. If their friend wants to talk to them then they should pay us $20 for taking up our time. Maybe all KBG's are psychos! If anybody can figure them out they should make a manual and sell them with a NEON shirt. LOL!That's how they are, my friend; they do this all the time. Once they get their drink and start a KBG-to-KBG yakkity-yak session, they'll put you on "ignore" until they need another nekohana. When they ignore you to talk they can't hear, see, smell, taste, & think of anything else; call it what you want, but it's totally disrespectful and deserving of NEON.
Are you f-ing kidding? They do this the same reason a dog licks his balls. Because he can. They are doing this to you because you let it happen. Pitch a *****. You don't like it? Speak up. Otherwise, STFU. If they can get away with this behavior, they willl. I don't know what this NEON crap is, but you are getting dissed bigtime for a reason. She does not respect you as a man. You got worked.Honestly speaking I'm ok with a KBG talking with her friend as long as some simple rules are followed:
1. I don't get pressed to buy drinks for the visitor.
2. The KBG I'm with places her hand on jr. And give me a good stroking during the entire conversation.
3. The KBG I'm with repositions to make it easier for me to get some stink finger.
Now if all those rules are in place, well, have at it girls. I didn't want to talk to you anyways. .
Ss
Honestly speaking I'm ok with a KBG talking with her friend as long as some simple rules are followed:
1. I don't get pressed to buy drinks for the visitor.
2. The KBG I'm with places her hand on jr. And give me a good stroking during the entire conversation.
3. The KBG I'm with repositions to make it easier for me to get some stink finger.
Now if all those rules are in place, well, have at it girls. I didn't want to talk to you anyways. .
SsYeah, now that is cool. Point is that you're getting what you want and not getting all worked up about the lack of attention. YOU are managing the situation in this case, as opposed to being a "victim".
Hit Pearl City on the way home for a nightcap. Dropped in on Bonita. Usual activity, Pretty busy actually.
The house LVB was drinking alone at the bar. The object of his afffection was doing what KBGs do at the back tables. He was clearly unhappy. Started singing karaoke and was wearing his heart on his songlist. I always wonder if he knows the love of his life is the village bicycle. Sucks to be him.
Mamas, don't let yer babies grow up to be LVBs.
A LVB replies:
"Yeah but Head Lock, easy to say because you and others been going bars for quite some time already. Therefore, in time you eventually learned. But, you and other members can't just tell a noobie or LVB to just do what you or others do now. I can't listen and follow that easily just by reading something on the forum or being told verbally by someone. It's still not enough to make me realize and just stop what I'm doing and say: "Sorry BGs I cannot, I read something on the forum that's why" I need to find out first hand for myself. Especially, when I'm already caught in that moment. I put in time and money in the BG to just quit suddenly. I might as well continue and see where it takes me. Live and learn I guess. Or, I should say, I need to burn to eventually learn. I have to go through this process the same as how most of you guys did. Who knows, maybe I might be the lucky one and things work out for me. I rather take the chance and get burned then be alone and stick to how how my current lifestyle is. Being alone for so long and not experiencing it, bothers me more than not taking the chance and risking it. If it doesn't work out, at least I can say that I experienced it. Been there done that. I know it sounds stupid but, at least I had that title of having a GF and being married. Even if its only for a short period. Besides, I'm not getting any younger either.
Oh BTW, as far as getting play, etc. That's not important right now. Of course I would want that eventually but, I need to get attracted to her first, get emotionally stimulated and then I get turned on. It needs to be in that order. I may not get DATY, BBBJ or sex from her but, I can go home and dream / fantasize about her though. Her time and company arouses me already. I'm excited by that alone: "Gosh, she is so pretty!" If I settle for another BG who does play, but, if I'm not attracted to her and emotionaly stimulated by her, how can I be turned on? Sexual frustration can just go to an AMP for that or just relieve yourself but, what about satisfying emotional frustration? What am I going to do about that? The soft, mushy side of a LVB needs to release.
"Gosh, she is so pretty!" If I settle for another BG who does play, but, if I'm not attracted to her and emotionaly stimulated by her, how can I be turned on? Sexual frustration can just go to an AMP for that or just relieve yourself but, what about satisfying emotional frustration? What am I going to do about that? The soft, mushy side of a LVB needs to release.LOL, Uki. I like your storytelling. But the best part is that you try to present different perspectives (understandings) as well as a lesson, Uki-style. BTW, the LVBs I have observed are actually trying to court KBGs like they were Cinderellas or something; blind and brain-damaged.
I always wonder if he knows the love of his life is the village bicycle. Sucks to be him.
Mamas, don't let yer babies grow up to be LVBs.Hehe. I cannot help but giggle on this."Love of his life is the village bicycle" LOL That's messed up man. You want to be serious and marry someone who's fucking other guys or guys itchin to fuck her? LVB has no problem with that? Main thing his emotional void has been filled I guess. Better than not having anyone at all yah?
BG: "Bye hunee have a nice day at work"
LVB: "Bye babe thanks. What are you going to do today?"
BG: "Not much hun, just wash clothes and clean house"
LVB: "Babe, be honest now"
BG: "Well, I'm going to have 2 of my Sukebe customers come over today. It's only 2 guys. Is it ok?"
LVB: "Babe, I don't have a problem with you bringing guys over but, you just need to be honest with me about it"
BG: "Oh ok, sowwee"
LVB: "Oh, another thing, don't have them eat and hog the food in the fridge. I just bought groceries last night"
BG: "I won't, they'll be busy eating me anyways"
LOL, Uki. I like your storytelling. But the best part is that you try to present different perspectives (understandings) as well as a lesson, Uki-style. BTW, the LVBs I have observed are actually trying to court KBGs like they were Cinderellas or something; blind and brain-damaged.
This LVB is clearly courting the KBG. Even after being visibly upset and agitated, when the KBG finally came over to him near closing time, he pulled out the bar chair for her and was very gentlemanly. I wonder what she likes the most: being treated like a princess, or knowing that that she pwns his gonads?
Hehe. I cannot help but giggle on this."Love of his life is the village bicycle" LOL That's messed up man. You want to be serious and marry someone who's fucking other guys or guys itchin to fuck her? LVB has no problem with that? Main thing his emotional void has been filled I guess. Better than not having anyone at all yah?I guess. If that floats yer boat. It was just odd to see this LVB visibly annoyed at being unaccompanied for an extended period while the KBG was in the dark places yanking someone else's crank. She really has this LVB pwned.
The childish side of me enjoyed seeing him suffer. The more humane side of me pitied the benighted sot.
This LVB is clearly courting the KBG. Even after being visibly upset and agitated, when the KBG finally came over to him near closing time, he pulled out the bar chair for her and was very gentlemanly. I wonder what she likes the most: being treated like a princess, or knowing that that she pwns his gonads?If a BG or even just a civilian female has a LVB chasing after her to that extent, geez she might as well take advantage of it. It's like she feels as though the LVB has no problems with it that It makes her think: "Oh ok. I'll take advantage of the situation. It doesn't seem to bother him that I'm doing this" She just gives in if he's so into courting her, she's like "Whatevers, let me take advantage of this sucker. If he wants me that much, then I expect this, this, this, this! Take me to this place, buy me this and treat me that. You up for it?"
This is similar to if a guy that has a chick that's into him but, he's not attracted to or interested in her. But, she's the one courting him. Eventually, the guy just gives in because it's easy pootang for him. So, of course he's going to want to expect her to put out. To him its like: "You like me? Give me sex then" But, his real interest and attraction is on another chick. Just fuck the other chick for now and keep her on the side.
Female takes advantage of the LVB by getting money from him.
Male takes advantage of the LVG by getting sex from her.
Both cases, are examples of "Having Ones Cake And Eating It To"
Both the LVB and LVG are so needy and desperate that they would put up with this. Crazy huh?
LVB and LVG are easy victims. Don't be a victim.
Yo,
Not a KBG, but a Kor AMP hoe shared her LVB exploits. He met her on a local dinner cruise. She tell him she does "massage". She gave him massage w no extras.
He fell in lust, and want her as GF. She telling me all this after BBBJCIMWS. She ask me what should she do, and I tell her I have an answer next time I see her for some
Greek action. She said ok.
Tight ass and nice action. GFE even with DFK and rim, BBBJ again. She wants advice, so I tell her one day he will find out, or he already knows and is in denial, so.
Go for it.
Next time she show me nice necklace with her initial in diamond gold pendant from her LVB. Hook line and sinker. No greek, but BBFS this time, with CIP.
Plenty hoes, so I moved on. Neva saw her again, but she was at Keeamoku St Massage couple years ago.
Anther hoe told me she got engagement ring offer from client. This after I banged her GFE bbfscim. No names to protect the ignorant.
Messed up to fall in love with a working girl.
Jb
Hehe. I cannot help but giggle on this."Love of his life is the village bicycle" LOL That's messed up man. You want to be serious and marry someone who's fucking other guys or guys itchin to fuck her? LVB has no problem with that? Main thing his emotional void has been filled I guess. Better than not having anyone at all yah?
BG: "Bye hunee have a nice day at work"
LVB: "Bye babe thanks. What are you going to do today?"
BG: "Not much hun, just wash clothes and clean house"
LVB: "Babe, be honest now"
BG: "Well, I'm going to have 2 of my Sukebe customers come over today. It's only 2 guys. Is it ok?"
LVB: "Babe, I don't have a problem with you bringing guys over but, you just need to be honest with me about it"
BG: "Oh ok, sowwee"
LVB: "Oh, another thing, don't have them eat and hog the food in the fridge. I just bought groceries last night"
BG: "I won't, they'll be busy eating me anyways"
Both the LVB and LVG are so needy and desperate that they would put up with this. Crazy huh?
LVB and LVG are easy victims. Don't be a victim.Very true and goes back to what I say about exposing your feelings in the KB setting. Doing so is like laying your cards face up in a poker game (no pun intended).
Yo,
Not a KBG, but a Kor AMP hoe shared her LVB exploits. He met her on a local dinner cruise. She tell him she does "massage". She gave him massage w no extras.
He fell in lust, and want her as GF. She telling me all this after BBBJCIMWS. She ask me what should she do, and I tell her I have an answer next time I see her for some
Greek action. She said ok.
Tight ass and nice action. GFE even with DFK and rim, BBBJ again. She wants advice, so I tell her one day he will find out, or he already knows and is in denial, so.
Go for it.
Next time she show me nice necklace with her initial in diamond gold pendant from her LVB. Hook line and sinker. No greek, but BBFS this time, with CIP.
Plenty hoes, so I moved on. Neva saw her again, but she was at Keeamoku St Massage couple years ago.
Anther hoe told me she got engagement ring offer from client. This after I banged her GFE bbfscim. No names to protect the ignorant.
Messed up to fall in love with a working girl.
JbYou are correct! It is messed up but sometimes the bottom heAd becomes stronger than the top one. If I keep fucking the same hoe who gives GFE it truly feels like a hot wife on demand. Then know I need to get around more often cause no hoe is worthy of all that attention when in actuality, there are many hoes out there thT could give me the same feelings. But some guys self esteem so low they don't realize it. Just my opinion cause I've been at that point before in my younger years.
Hehe. I cannot help but giggle on this."Love of his life is the village bicycle" LOL That's messed up man. You want to be serious and marry someone who's fucking other guys or guys itchin to fuck her? LVB has no problem with that? Main thing his emotional void has been filled I guess. Better than not having anyone at all yah?
BG: "Bye hunee have a nice day at work"
LVB: "Bye babe thanks. What are you going to do today?"
BG: "Not much hun, just wash clothes and clean house"
LVB: "Babe, be honest now"
BG: "Well, I'm going to have 2 of my Sukebe customers come over today. It's only 2 guys. Is it ok?"
LVB: "Babe, I don't have a problem with you bringing guys over but, you just need to be honest with me about it"
BG: "Oh ok, sowwee"
LVB: "Oh, another thing, don't have them eat and hog the food in the fridge. I just bought groceries last night"
BG: "I won't, they'll be busy eating me anyways"That's fucked up. I think it's alright to have an open relationship w a provider but marrying one is messed up. T just my opinion. The island is too small to get away with doing this kind of thing. People talk.
KBG's only think of themselves first. They always lie and make up excuses so that in their mind they are right. They will do whatever they want no matter what anybody says.Sounds cruel and harsh that BGs can only think about themselves huh? But, you know what? They being cautious that's why. I'm pretty sure alot of BGs have been taken advantage of in the past. Therefore, they try not to easily fall for someone. I know what a LVB may be thinking: "Yah but. I'm not like that though, I'm not a player and I would never hurt her" She doesn't know that for sure and can really count on it considering how many times other guys have played her. She felt the same way with other guys that she had relationship with. Therefore, she cannot take the chance. That's why, guys need to think of themselves first to. Don't invest too much time and money in a BG. They will not live up to what you may expect or want to expect out of them. They cannot backup what they say and hold true to their word. Most cases anyway. That's why, these women can just ditch a guy and leave him hanging. Then he's like: "Wow! What happened? I thought we had something good between us. Why'd she do that? I did soo much for her to!" Sound familiar? BGs won't come to the rescue when you are in dire need of help. Nope. Why would they care? They only make like they do care because there's something in it for them. If they did care, they wouldn't lie or try and hound you for drinks in the first place. Heh, if they find someone else, they don't give a crap and don't need you anymore. Common sense. Heh, they can't argue that they really do care and have shown proof of it on numerous occasions without them having some benefit or personal gain. Have they? Make her prove her worthiness to you. She has to pass your test (s) not you pass her test (s) People who do care, they don't expect something in return. You may think she sweet, nice, cute, she's different, you feel pity and don't want to be rude etc etc because she's a female yah? The fact that the BG is a female (especially the one you're attracted to) , she's excused. That's all it takes. Female, pretty face, she's sweet, she's excused. They like to side with her and defend her, to win her heart. But, it's not like she has really proven herself worthy. When it comes to these BGs, cannot be too focused on what they telling you is the truth or a lie. I think alot of guys get caught up in this. They get emotionally bothered if they feel that what a BG is saying is the truth or a lie. Fuckem, no need. You're getting to focused on the BG that's why. Whatever a BG may tell you, take it with a grain of salt and expect that these KBGs will lie. Assume and expect that a lie will come up. Heh, women generally like to keep secrets. You shouldn't be shocked or surprised if they did lie. BGs and even civilian women they like to second guess and assume alot of things.
"Should I tell him I'm an AMP / BG? Naw not yet. If I tell him now, he wouldn't want to talk to me again. I'll just wait for the right time to tell him"
"No way I want to sit with him! Aww. Shit! Mama wants me to sit with him. I'll just hound him for so many drinks that he'll get discouraged"
"Hehe, this guy thinks he can afford me? Let me see. Buy me another one? Another one? Another one? No? Hehe, just what I thought! You can't afford me hehe"
"I always see this guy at the bar. Geez, he must be really desperate and needy for a female! He must be the loner type"
"Look at this guy, what a bum! Wait, oh my gosh, he drives that car? Wow! I guess he's not a bum after all"
"Look at these young guys. They probably here to just look and not buy any drinks. Cheap bastards! Oh wait, they buying those BGs drinks. I'm shocked! They don't look like they would spend money"
"Let me buy this guy a beer, that way, he don't feel like I'm abusing him on the drinks. Hehe, then he won't feel too bad on buying me another $20 drink in return"
"When is he going to buy me another drink? My glass been empty for so many minutes already. I'll just sip the empty glass and crunch on the ice. Then, he'll get the hint that I want another drink"
"What's taking him so long? I can't stand sitting with this Sukebe guy trying to get touchy touchy with me. Gross! Sheesh! There he is. Well it's about time my regular showed up!"
"I don't like sitting with this guy. Oh Shit, my regular just came in. I'll just ditch this guy by excusing myself to go to the restroom hehe"
"Damn it's slow right now. Hmm. Who can I text? Let's see. Nah, no sense text this guy, he's not going to come down and visit me. Hmm. I know, this guy probably would. Yes! He's coming down! Woohoo! Cha-ching!"
"Oh my goodness (rolling her eyes) this guy is so full of himself. He think he all that! He's obviously a player! Cocky bastard"
"I'll just say yes for now to not make him feel bad. Hopefully, he'll forget the whole thing. Shit, Dammit! He's texting me to confirm, hmm. Need to think of something quick! Fuckit! I'll just not reply or answer"
"I think I can get this guy to get me 1 more drink. Oh oh, looks like he's hesitating and thinking about it. Let me smile and tease him somemore to make his decision easier. Bingo! I got you! Gosh, you're easy!"
"If this guy thinks he can get a piece of me, hell no! I'm not having him touch me! I don't care how much $ he offers!"
"Who's this guy who wants me to sit with him? Oh gosh, another LVB. This one should be easy. 10 drinks in 1 hour no problem. Can I get another one? No? WTF? Did I just hear him say no? This Fucker must have been reading the forum!"
Those things mentioned above, alot of guys don't really think about it. It doesn't cross their minds that BGs think like that. These women think and assume alot of things in their heads. BGs make up lies just to make conversations and cover up things they rather you not know. They assume you are bad until you prove that you're not. Problem is, guys really overdo it on the niceness that the women see right through them. Women cannot believe and find it hard to believe that a guy is perfect and flawless. They know that's not realistic. He's too good to be true. A BG may giggle and laugh but, inside of her she thinks: "Geez, this guy is lame!" It's funny, to see BGs just do their fake smile / laugh when she's sitting with a customer. She laughs along but, she doesn't find it funny. She just does it since he buying her drinks and make like she's enjoying his company. In fact, she probably wants to just getup and leave. If you're caught up on what she saying is either true or not, then you're not really enjoying yourself in a KB. You rely on a BG to have fun in a KB. You're too focus on what she's saying than enjoying yourself. BG sits by you talking to you after you buy her drinks and you're like: "She better not be fucking lieing to me!" You think like this because you're being honest with her and you expect her to be fair and honest in return. Especially, when you buying her drinks. You get bothered if you sense she's playing mind games with you. You letting your emotions get to you simply by what a BG says or does. BGs are predicting you trying to read and figure out the type of guy that you are. If you react emotionally, to her she's like: "Oh ok, he's one of those sensitive types" She figures you out, labels you and then places you among the sensitive category.
Guys outlook: "BGs are innocent until proven guilty"
That's why alot of guys be all nice, take care them, put BGs on the pedestal. They try so hard to show that they're a nice guy. Some guys take a longer time to realize that they're being used and taken advantage of. Heh, they second guess themselves that's why."I wonder if she fooling around? Nah, cannot be. I known her too long and done so much for her, she wouldn't do that to me. She probably out with her other BG friends" Then, he brushes it off. It takes alot until he finally wakes up and realizes it.
BGs outlook: "Guys are guilty until proven innocent"
BGs assume already that you're going to be a typical LVB, Sukebe guy, playboy etc etc. Alot of them are anyways so, they cannot help but assume (label) them to be that. Most of the guys they comes across, their assumptions of them is correct. That's why women, especially the hotter ones have the pre-Madonna mentality. They assume you're going to be another perverted guy drooling and gawking over her. Sure enough, in most cases, they're right. When and if you do prove them wrong, she's like: "Oh, I guess this guy is not the typical LVB that I originally thought he was"
I think the guys who are new to the bar and some guys that are not new, talk too formal with these BGs like they on a first date with them. What do most guys typically do on first dates? Be at their best behavior. They be all prim and proper trying to make a good impression on them. Especially, with the BGs that they are interested in. They hold back on alot of things. I guess everyone's different. Some guys are not that open to talk about anything in general with a BG due to that fear of what the BG may think of him. Also, some guys meaning of fun is looking forward to seeing that particular BG in the bar. It's like another dinner date with her but, its a drinkie date at the bar. Guys who are carefree and nonchalant are not concerned about what a BG may think of him. Also, they don't focus on that 1 particular BG in order to have fun. He views BGs in a bar as but a number. He's too busy enjoying himself and having fun with a number of BGs that it really doesn't cross his mind. He doesn't give a crap what she or other BG may think of him. His main agenda is to just have fun period. Not trying to impress BGs or other people. Look at BGs, they just go through each guy like a number. They have the Play Him mentality. Bottom line, all guys that go hostess bars should be aware that BGs will think, assume and do things like this. A person may not think so but, don't be so surprised if it does happen.
I read your short novel below and enjoyed it and was good for several laughs. You would be good at being the writer for KB for Dummies bro. Too bad the loverboys probably think what we write is BS or don't apply to them. If I may, I'd like to give a cliff notes version of your post. KBGs lie. LVBs believe and get robbed. Sukebe guys no believe the robs and have fun. LOL.
I read your short novel below and enjoyed it and was good for several laughs. You would be good at being the writer for KB for Dummies bro. Too bad the loverboys probably think what we write is BS or don't apply to them. If I may, I'd like to give a cliff notes version of your post. KBGs lie. LVBs believe and get robbed. Sukebe guys no believe the robs and have fun. LOL.That's how LVBs are. They no believe or don't think what's written is true until they find out for themselves to confirm if it is true. That's their thinking. That's why so many had to burn to eventually learn. It took them that long to finally realize.
Sounds cruel and harsh that BGs can only think about themselves huh? But, you know what? They being cautious that's why. I'm pretty sure...Damn. Uki, seems you got a lot of time on your hands. You Ned to do more fucking, let the newbies get burnt cause they going have to learn their lesson anyway. Only way I see it a girl leAve this lifestyle is if you can provide a better lifestyle than they can provide for themselves. If you can't then quit dreaming and enjoy your time with the pussy!
Damn. Uki, seems you got a lot of time on your hands. You Ned to do more fucking, let the newbies get burnt cause they going have to learn their lesson anyway. Only way I see it a girl leAve this lifestyle is if you can provide a better lifestyle than they can provide for themselves. If you can't then quit dreaming and enjoy your time with the pussy!My bad man. I must be irritating the heck out of some of you guys with these type of posts. LOL especially the BGs. That post was hella long. I had that saved on my phone for a couple of weeks. I just didn't bother to post it.
Damn. Uki, seems you got a lot of time on your hands. You Ned to do more fucking, let the newbies get burnt cause they going have to learn their lesson anyway. Only way I see it a girl leAve this lifestyle is if you can provide a better lifestyle than they can provide for themselves. If you can't then quit dreaming and enjoy your time with the pussy!You never know who might read and get helped from posts. You don't need to read if boring or not interested but we all got our own interests and tastes. A LVB just might relate and get reformed which does and has happened. Just my 2cents from another rambler, hehe.
My bad man. I must be irritating the heck out of some of you guys with these type of posts. LOL especially the BGs. That post was hella long.No worry. Everybody has a choice (within their own attention span) to do what they want with a lenghthy post. I found a lot of truths and good examples toward the end so it was worth reading; I basically skimmed the entire post until something interesting caught my eyes (the dialogues in quotes). You're a storyteller by nature.
How all you guys been?
I get a lot of kicks out of reading all the posts on all the threads nowdays. Lots of young dum and full of cum guys out there trying to make their mark. The days of the good ol hoooaaahs are gone, but there is a lot of new meat around.
The attitude of the chicks are pretty much the same. How mucheee money you got? Yup, its all about the cash and how much you got. Lots of BBFS, BBBJ still to go around and lots of competition. Monica is hard to beat, she is the hoooah of hoooahs! But Kelly's body still rocks the the all time slutty looks and sweet to eat.
Too much chatty stuff going on here nowdays and not enough reviews. Getting dry here.
In thinking about this I think uki is also right but it depends on the girl you repeat with. I tent to think the top tier girls will not get jealous as they will know you will want to go back to them even after sampling another. Tends to make a return session all that much better.
Some of my favs that I seen regularly (Skye, Channel, Miki / Hana) all would actually suggest or even ask me if I wanted to see another girl. Maybe I saw them to much and they got tired of me? Never felt a hint of jealously from them.
On the flip side I once went to Seven looking for a fav who was not there. I declined Coco who was easily the hottest one there as well as the rest of the girls. But ask if I could have the short homely Mama who declined me. All this in front of coco and a few other girls. I thinking back may not have been the smartest move. But I got the feeling that Coco was pissed. I also got the feeling the the MS was not. LOL.
I am sure it exist but jealousy needs to be taking out of the equation from all parties. Do I get jealous when my fav is getting pounded all night by you guys. Hell no. Should be same for the girls too.Yah, those providers you mentioned are high in demand where they have so much customers, it's not a big deal if you see someone else. They're not going to be thinking: "Oh wow, howcome Radiohazard picked her over me?" They're too busy to be even thinking about it. You're just a number among many other repeat customers. My friend got rejected by Joy at Pinks. She said to him to see someone else on the couch. This was during the 30 min thing at Ward. So much guys was seeing Joy, she was pretty tired. I'm not surprised if some providers eventually think this when you repeat with her very often.
"Oh, it's him again. He's always seeing me every time. Can't he see someone else for a change?"
I guess it's like how you can get irritated if the same person calls you up everyday wanting to talk story. But, you feel it's just too much already that you start thinking:
"Geez this guy, he's always calling me everyday. He doesn't have anyone else to call up and talk to?"
Just to chime in here.
But first of all. Whoa. Unholy. Man long time. Where you're reviews at then? LOL jk man.
I responded to the bro that he is over thinking it but that is from our perspective. From the guy's point of view, we have the $$$, we have the right to fuck who we want. The provider will of course might get jealous but that's the way it is and what we want should come first instead of worrying if the provider will get jealous.
But yeah. I do agree that some of the girls will get jealous if you see other girls. Its human nature. But its the good kine jealous where you can have fun with the girl and joke about it. At least that's been my experience and that's how I treat it. Nothing too serious. After all this whole thing is about having fun.
One time with an ATF long ago. She said. Here I'm your first wife. My friend so and so can be your second wife. You see me first then see her but come back and see me LOL.
I read your short novel below and enjoyed it and was good for several laughs. You would be good at being the writer for KB for Dummies bro. Too bad the loverboys probably think what we write is BS or don't apply to them. If I may, I'd like to give a cliff notes version of your post. KBGs lie. LVBs believe and get robbed. Sukebe guys no believe the robs and have fun. LOL.Option 1: Go to AMP Relaxation, choose a hot girl, she services you and treats you like a king, even some massage, and you play with her body and pound her brains out. All for a standard fee $$.
Option 2: Go to KB bar, instant interaction with attractive girl, cost. 20. You are faced with mind games, see Uki post #961, too long to quote, and your chance of sex is very slim, cost. 20 to endless bucks.
Option 1 is too easy and gets boring. Option 2 is a challenge, but futless. We need something in between, and there is a niche and big market for you female Korean entrepreneurs. Now we know Korean girls are good at golf and love of ton.
How about a AMP where we can mingle with the girls first, or a KB with relaxation rooms and reasonable fees? Give the mongers what they want!
From the guy's point of view, we have the $$$, we have the right to fuck who we want. The provider will of course might get jealous but that's the way it is and what we want should come first instead of worrying if the provider will get jealous.
But yeah. I do agree that some of the girls will get jealous if you see other girls. Its human nature. But its the good kine jealous where you can have fun with the girl and joke about it. At least that's been my experience and that's how I treat it. Nothing too serious. After all this whole thing is about having fun.
One time with an ATF long ago. She said. Here I'm your first wife. My friend so and so can be your second wife. You see me first then see her but come back and see me LOL.Yup man, we do have the right to see others because like I mentioned before, you're not married and there's no obligation that you're suppose to keep seeing the same provider. There's no written agreement. It's on her if she feels bothered and jealous by it. But, what can you do though? Be Mr softy and feel bad?
The women have an Ego just like us men. Take away the attention from them, you're affecting their Ego. The hot women especially take a blow to their ego as they're expecting that most if not all men will automatically fall to their knees. When you don't, they get piss off.
"That fucking jerk! Does he realize how many men would want me? Fuck him!"
LOL.
They get jealous when they realize that you have other options. It's not just her only.
How all you guys been?
I get a lot of kicks out of reading all the posts on all the threads nowdays. Lots of young dum and full of cum guys out there trying to make their mark. The days of the good ol hoooaaahs are gone, but there is a lot of new meat around.
The attitude of the chicks are pretty much the same. How mucheee money you got? Yup, its all about the cash and how much you got. Lots of BBFS, BBBJ still to go around and lots of competition. Monica is hard to beat, she is the hoooah of hoooahs! But Kelly's body still rocks the the all time slutty looks and sweet to eat.
Too much chatty stuff going on here nowdays and not enough reviews. Getting dry here.Been a long time, Un Holy. Yep, too much fluff nowadays.
Be safe,
V Rider
Option 1: Go to AMP Relaxation, choose a hot girl, she services you and treats you like a king, even some massage, and you play with her body and pound her brains out. All for a standard fee $$.
Option 2: Go to KB bar, instant interaction with attractive girl, cost. 20. You are faced with mind games, see Uki post #961, too long to quote, and your chance of sex is very slim, cost. 20 to endless bucks.
Option 1 is too easy and gets boring. Option 2 is a challenge, but futless. We need something in between, and there is a niche and big market for you female Korean entrepreneurs. Now we know Korean girls are good at golf and love of ton.
How about a AMP where we can mingle with the girls first, or a KB with relaxation rooms and reasonable fees? Give the mongers what they want!In China, the bargirl you choose is the one that will fuck you that night for example. Korea and Japan USED to be like that.
Yah, those providers you mentioned are high in demand where they have so much customers, it's not a big deal if you see someone else. They're not going to be thinking: "Oh wow, howcome Radiohazard picked her over me?" They're too busy to be even thinking about it. You're just a number among many other repeat customers. My friend got rejected by Joy at Pinks. She said to him to see someone else on the couch. This was during the 30 min thing at Ward. So much guys was seeing Joy, she was pretty tired. I'm not surprised if some providers eventually think this when you repeat with her very often.
"Oh, it's him again. He's always seeing me every time. Can't he see someone else for a change?"
I guess it's like how you can get irritated if the same person calls you up everyday wanting to talk story. But, you feel it's just too much already that you start thinking:
"Geez this guy, he's always calling me everyday. He doesn't have anyone else to call up and talk to?"LOL, I can beleieve joy would turn down at that time. There used to be a line wrapping down as the girls got torn up one by one during those 30 min special. I used to have a regular at ichibans and we used to do extra curricular stuff outside the AMP. I joked to her I was going to pick another girl there the next time and she told me shevwas going to block the door if I did. LOL, not sure how serious she was when she said that.
LOL, I can beleieve joy would turn down at that time. There used to be a line wrapping down as the girls got torn up one by one during those 30 min special. I used to have a regular at ichibans and we used to do extra curricular stuff outside the AMP. I joked to her I was going to pick another girl there the next time and she told me shevwas going to block the door if I did. LOL, not sure how serious she was when she said that.They also have alot of guys be texting / calling them that eventually, they may not answer your text / calls.
Funny hearing the guys over the phone when they call and she answers.
"Hi, its xxxxxxx. Do you remember me? Blah blah a blah, blah blah" LOL.
They also have alot of guys be texting / calling them that eventually, they may not answer your text / calls.
Funny hearing the guys over the phone when they call and she answers.
"Hi, its xxxxxxx. Do you remember me? Blah blah a blah, blah blah" LOL.Haha, that's true. On numerous occasions at the bar I see two hot bar girls laughing laughing as I can hear them texting all the guys on their phone. I think each guy texting them back is thinking how special they must be that this girl is thinking of them when they are just one of the many she is playing with cause the bar was slow. I used to be that guy on the other side and I would get called micheal, John, or whatever the hell name sometimes cause the girl was messing around with so many she wrote the wrong name in the text. LOL. It's their job to be a player. If they were in a position to be loyal they wouldn't work at these places, they're all in open relationships and the ones that don't give it up don't make as much dough. Then like uki says, she might stop responding at all.
Haha, that's true. On numerous occasions at the bar I see two hot bar girls laughing laughing as I can hear them texting all the guys on their phone. I think each guy texting them back is thinking how special they must be that this girl is thinking of them when they are just one of the many she is playing with cause the bar was slow. I used to be that guy on the other side and I would get called micheal, John, or whatever the hell name sometimes cause the girl was messing around with so many she wrote the wrong name in the text. LOL. It's their job to be a player. If they were in a position to be loyal they wouldn't work at these places, they're all in open relationships and the ones that don't give it up don't make as much dough. Then like uki says, she might stop responding at all.Yup. It's the same as how civilian chicks play like that. Even the young girls in foreign countries do that. Same thing. They would be looking at the phone together or on the computer screen giggling / laughing at what the guy writes. Their friend (s) would be there alongside telling them what else to write. They go down the list to see who'll bite and respond. If not.
"Hmm, who else can I text next? I know! Let me text John"
As I said before a number of times, they throw hints and beat around the Bush. They'll not openly / directly ask you to come down but send a text or call and beat around the Bush bringing up other things. By them doing this, it's enough to remind / hint the guy to come down and visit her. They're not going to ask upfront
"Hi. It's me. It's pretty slow right now and no customers buying me drinks. Can you please come down and buy me drinks. Thanks!"
They wouldn't say this because they know it would turn off and discourage the guy.
Got to disagree on the hints bro. KBGs ask directly and even DEMAND their LVBs come bar. I see this at every bar with every girl when they don't have customers. Tactful hints? KBG? You got to be kidding, LOL. BTW, any of you gave the KBGs your number? I going tease you as LVB! Give me a reason they need YOUR number, LOL.
Belot Eater
04-30-12, 00:44
Got to disagree on the hints bro. KBGs ask directly and even DEMAND their LVBs come bar. I see this at every bar with every girl when they don't have customers. Tactful hints? KBG? You got to be kidding, LOL. BTW, any of you gave the KBGs your number? I going tease you as LVB! Give me a reason they need YOUR number, LOL.Yep, they don't need your number. I change my number too. Its a hard thing for me to do but I don't need someone to call me in to the bar or be a taxi. You know that taxi actual gets paid but us lvbs no get nutthing. Time for change boys and become a man. I'm changing and have other lvbs the kbg can go to but not me. Feel the freedom its really good you know. Kbgs don't need to call you to go to the bar. Go when you feel like it. Fuck this bitches. Grow some balls U fuckers.
Got to disagree on the hints bro. KBGs ask directly and even DEMAND their LVBs come bar. I see this at every bar with every girl when they don't have customers. Tactful hints? KBG? You got to be kidding, LOL. BTW, any of you gave the KBGs your number? I going tease you as LVB! Give me a reason they need YOUR number, LOL.I guess the ones you're referring to are so suckered in, that it no matter already. They can just ask directly. No need to hint or beat around the Bush. They'll just obey and come. But, yah, me and my friends gave our numbers when they asked and they don't ask directly to come down. We would mention to each other what she wrote. When I got a text before since I splurged on a BG on a certain night, I reply back making like I'm coming down but, I'm on the road heading home already. LOL.
Yep, they don't need your number. I change my number too. Its a hard thing for me to do but I don't need someone to call me in to the bar or be a taxi. You know that taxi actual gets paid but us lvbs no get nutthing. Time for change boys and become a man. I'm changing and have other lvbs the kbg can go to but not me. Feel the freedom its really good you know. Kbgs don't need to call you to go to the bar. Go when you feel like it. Fuck this bitches. Grow some balls U fuckers.Ho brah take it easy. We all have been suckers at one point or another. When you become more experienced you know exactly what's going on but it's still hard to resist. I just feel for the newbies, hopefully they learn quick before they learn that heartbreak occurs around the same time as an empty bank account. LOL
Belot Eater
04-30-12, 03:48
Ho brah take it easy. We all have been suckers at one point or another. When you become more experienced you know exactly what's going on but it's still hard to resist. I just feel for the newbies, hopefully they learn quick before they learn that heartbreak occurs around the same time as an empty bank account. LOLSometimes you have slap them with words to make them think. lol!
It seems to me that a new breed of mongers has risen. They prefer bb and skin to skin and rightly so. If no can feel then no can enjoy. My ultimate goal is to find those who bbfsfsfsfsciporcim the inventory is running low, but new talent is constantly appearing.
Lately at the kbars, the service has been only there if you pay and pay dearly. So the morrow of the story is. Why do the kbar, leave high and dry, when you can go relax on a table and leave with a happy wet doggie. If you got the good table then Mr. Doggie will be barking and howling all day.
Alas, I still miss the good old days of Angie, Bonnie, Jun, etc. The old new yorker, old smile, old R-7, old VIP. Hmmm, where shall I go tonight?
Member #4374
12-22-12, 07:51
They should give a copy of this post to every local dude when he turns 21.
Local guys = money.
Money = LV bag, Rolex watcheeee, Mercedes, BMW, Channel stuff, etc.
Therefore, Local guys help support the economy! So don't say that going to the bar and AMP don't help the state!
Also,
Bar / AMP chick = bad wifey / girfriend.
Therefore, Bar / AMP chick is good for short term use only.
Use them before they use us.
For some reason, God made Korean women look better than most. It was probably to make up for the uglyness that they have inside.
I once had a KBG girlfriend who complained to me about eating junk food but yet she smoked a pack of cigs a day and drank like a fish. Duh! Look in the mirror *
I once had a KBG who complained about having to work to support her gambling habit. Toughshit *
I once had a KBG who complained that working at a bar was tooooo mucheeee stress. Bullshitbitch! You don't know what hard work is, because you been a hoe all your life and did not do a thing to help society. You only sucked off the system and failed to pay all your fricken taxes!
There is never a perfect KBG. They drink, smoke, are materialistic hoes, gamble, like to act like princess, like to act rich off of other guys money, think they are better but are really trash, and just plain selfish.
So, make a choice; nice legs, nice tits, nice puss, pretty face. Or. Live with peace of mind with some dog face local chick. What the f*k!
Solution, go to bars and AMPs just to get puss and tits and keep your distance.
Because a Korean is like a worst nightmare with the best sex eva!
They should give a copy of this post to every local dude when he turns 21.For sure. Look, on this subject I consider myself, humbly, to be a poster child, and I am mortified to admit it, being a reasonably intelligent person. Many of you know my history and relationship with one of your local AMP providers, Angie / Mimi / Chisuk, formerly of Golden Butterfly and Luxury Ocean and now, on and off, with Hana of Hana's on King and Honey Bee (and God knows where else). And, many of you, my critics, are aware that I have been hot about it and at times, admittedly, deranged. Suffice it to say, I know whereof I speak. A cautionary tale. To the very end of our misbegotten "relationship" in September (begun in 2004 in NC) , she attempted to extract additional funds for cosmetics, food, mouthwash, toothpaste, dental care, medical care, etc, while, she claimed, she strove bravely to extricate herself from the sordid business of the relaxation spas and fly to meet me in Cali. Angie also begged me for money weekly to help pay, allegedly, for her room at the YMCA while she worked at a dry cleaners. At the dry cleaners, she said, she injured her arm and was fired. Unless I sent her $1000, she would be on the street, she said. Come to find out 4 days after I sent the emergency money to keep her "off the street", she had in fact used that money to rent an apartment downtown for $1500 / month, plus a $1500 deposit, with the kind assistance of one of her local Honolulu customers (a monger on this Board whose handle I know she told me she met at GB) The money given her by the new bf was a" loan" of $5000, as she termed it; all this after she had begged me for a grand for the YMCA! When she told me of her new arrangement, I asked if she considered the money I had fronted her a loan to be repaid, and she said "No". I was pissed and got verbally abusive, particularly when she admitted to cheating me. I was also pissed I had never thought to consider my advances to her over the years (to payoff her enormous gambling debts to various casinos in Cali and Korean loan sharks) a loan! She reported the new bf liked her "personality" and that she was prepared to "date" and even marry him now. I guess so! In Angie's defense, I have enabled all this, and have been a flat out fool, and denied the reality before my eyes. We have gone back and forth like this for 8 years.
We have had good times, although they were mostly hers. But, and this is critical, her working girl mentality made honesty and real intimacy impossible. It's a shame; Angie has good qualities but they have, largely, been fucked out of her.
I am determined to get even but in a non-violent way and over the long haul, while learning to monger again in a healthy way.
My point is this. Never invest any emotion in these women. I suppose one in a million would pan out as a real gf or wife, but I doubt it. It ain't worth the risk. Play the lottery, the odds are better. Once you fuck for a living you can rarely see men as anything other than a money source. Sad to say, but it now makes sense. Hope Jackson lets this be posted.
Yo, Dr Phil,
I feel the pain of fellow Wando-as the Natalie took me for a great fuk ed up ride too. This was years ago, kids, so I have learned. Still, some hoes can sneak their way into my big head from my little head, LOL. Eh, but I neva marry one, yet, LOL.
Proud to say I wuz able to save my broker bud from the claws of AMP hoe regina yun hee (realtor hoe).but later found out she borrowed thousands and thousands from him, and never repay. And get this-in the end, she threatened to call the cops! She married a pake broker dude, and I will bet on the ending of this one.
Do this long enuf, and the stories start to repeat, the lying cheating hoes do the same thing-ruthlessly suk you dry of your monies. Can't take the hoes out of hoes.
When I read the forums, I feel sorry for the kids who go on and on and defend hoes,"oh she's soo sweet" and stuff. And the constant shills who pump up hoes like they beauty queens. Shit, they spread for bread-hoes. I can tell you that if you hit it off, it will not be about the sex. And she will meet you outside on "date", even fuk you anywhere except AMP.
Shit happens, hoes win sometimes, so you learn and move on. I promised my broker bud that as long as he's here porking hoes, I have to remind him about the near miss with the regina yun hee hoe, so he doesn't do it again. He one rich pake, but stupid with women.
Here's hoping none of you kids get fuked over by AMP / bar hoe-learn from the Wando, my pake brokerr bud and me. Fuk them hoes, fuk um good, fuk um long time, every time. Pay to play, and leave. Get plenty hoes out there-no let them fuk you over.
For sure. Look, on this subject I consider myself, humbly, to be a poster child, and I am mortified to admit it, being a reasonably intelligent person. Many of you know my history and relationship with one of your local AMP providers, Angie / Mimi / Chisuk, formerly of Golden Butterfly and Luxury Ocean and now, on and off, with Hana of Hana's on King and Honey Bee (and God knows where else). And, many of you, my critics, are aware that I have been hot about it and at times, admittedly, deranged. Suffice it to say, I know whereof I speak. A cautionary tale. To the very end of our misbegotten "relationship" in September (begun in 2004 in NC) , she attempted to extract additional funds for cosmetics, food, mouthwash, toothpaste, dental care, medical care, etc, while, she claimed, she strove bravely to extricate herself from the sordid business of the relaxation spas and fly to meet me in Cali. Angie also begged me for money weekly to help pay, allegedly, for her room at the YMCA while she worked at a dry cleaners. At the dry cleaners, she said, she injured her arm and was fired. Unless I sent her $1000, she would be on the street, she said. Come to find out 4 days after I sent the emergency money to keep her "off the street", she had in fact used that money to rent an apartment downtown for $1500 / month, plus a $1500 deposit, with the kind assistance of one of her local Honolulu customers (a monger on this Board whose handle I know she told me she met at GB) The money given her by the new bf was a" loan" of $5000, as she termed it; all this after she had begged me for a grand for the YMCA! When she told me of her new arrangement, I asked if she considered the money I had fronted her a loan to be repaid, and she said "No". I was pissed and got verbally abusive, particularly when she admitted to cheating me. I was also pissed I had never thought to consider my advances to her over the years (to payoff her enormous gambling debts to various casinos in Cali and Korean loan sharks) a loan! She reported the new bf liked her "personality" and that she was prepared to "date" and even marry him now. I guess so! In Angie's defense, I have enabled all this, and have been a flat out fool, and denied the reality before my eyes. We have gone back and forth like this for 8 years.
We have had good times, although they were mostly hers. But, and this is critical, her working girl mentality made honesty and real intimacy impossible. It's a shame; Angie has good qualities but they have, largely, been fucked out of her.
I am determined to get even but in a non-violent way and over the long haul, while learning to monger again in a healthy way.
My point is this. Never invest any emotion in these women. I suppose one in a million would pan out as a real gf or wife, but I doubt it. It ain't worth the risk. Play the lottery, the odds are better. Once you fuck for a living you can rarely see men as anything other than a money source. Sad to say, but it now makes sense. Hope Jackson lets this be posted.
MrFunStuff808
12-23-12, 02:51
For sure. Look, on this subject I consider myself, humbly, to be a poster child, and I am mortified to admit it, being a reasonably intelligent person. Many of you know my history and relationship with one of your local AMP providers, Angie / Mimi / Chisuk, formerly of Golden Butterfly and Luxury Ocean and now, on and off, with Hana of Hana's on King and Honey Bee (and God knows where else). And, many of you, my critics, are aware that I have been hot about it and at times, admittedly, deranged. Suffice it to say, I know whereof I speak. A cautionary tale. To the very end of our misbegotten "relationship" in September (begun in 2004 in NC) , she attempted to extract additional funds for cosmetics, food, mouthwash, toothpaste, dental care, medical care, etc, while, she claimed, she strove bravely to extricate herself from the sordid business of the relaxation spas and fly to meet me in Cali. Angie also begged me for money weekly to help pay, allegedly, for her room at the YMCA while she worked at a dry cleaners. At the dry cleaners, she said, she injured her arm and was fired. Unless I sent her $1000, she would be on the street, she said. Come to find out 4 days after I sent the emergency money to keep her "off the street", she had in fact used that money to rent an apartment downtown for $1500 / month, plus a $1500 deposit, with the kind assistance of one of her local Honolulu customers (a monger on this Board whose handle I know she told me she met at GB) The money given her by the new bf was a" loan" of $5000, as she termed it; all this after she had begged me for a grand for the YMCA! When she told me of her new arrangement, I asked if she considered the money I had fronted her a loan to be repaid, and she said "No". I was pissed and got verbally abusive, particularly when she admitted to cheating me. I was also pissed I had never thought to consider my advances to her over the years (to payoff her enormous gambling debts to various casinos in Cali and Korean loan sharks) a loan! She reported the new bf liked her "personality" and that she was prepared to "date" and even marry him now. I guess so! In Angie's defense, I have enabled all this, and have been a flat out fool, and denied the reality before my eyes. We have gone back and forth like this for 8 years.
We have had good times, although they were mostly hers. But, and this is critical, her working girl mentality made honesty and real intimacy impossible. It's a shame; Angie has good qualities but they have, largely, been fucked out of her.
I am determined to get even but in a non-violent way and over the long haul, while learning to monger again in a healthy way.
My point is this. Never invest any emotion in these women. I suppose one in a million would pan out as a real gf or wife, but I doubt it. It ain't worth the risk. Play the lottery, the odds are better. Once you fuck for a living you can rarely see men as anything other than a money source. Sad to say, but it now makes sense. Hope Jackson lets this be posted.Wando you are awesome, thank you for puttng yourself out there like that for all of us to learn or at least reflect on the subject. All of what you wrote should be a lesson for all of us. Thanks again!
Member #4374
12-28-12, 19:17
I'm happy these girls working in the AMPs are so money hungry. Becuz Korean women are the best Asian flavor hands down. Even though South Korea is doing good financially, they still gravitate to the fast and vast money of prostitution. And it's a totally mutually beneficial exchange: we get to pork hot Korean bitches and they get the easy money for the honey.
Idusixtyning
12-29-12, 03:37
I'm happy these girls working in the AMPs are so money hungry. Becuz Korean women are the best Asian flavor hands down. Even though South Korea is doing good financially, they still gravitate to the fast and vast money of prostitution. And it's a totally mutually beneficial exchange: we get to pork hot Korean bitches and they get the easy money for the honey.Be interesting to get inside the minds of these girls. Like that Mel Gibson movie. Like how they view each customer. As an actual person or just seeing money? I'm also sure that there is an addiction thing to getting so much money so quickly by working as a provider. The money is just too easy to accumulate. One funny thing in the past was that a provider wanted to give me the money to check out another provider to find out how that provider was like.
Yes, I love these Korean girls. But lets not forget those girls who give it up for free. So make sure you get flowers on Valentines Day for that girl in high school or college that humped you for fun and free. Going to send flowers to this girl at UH that gave me anal for kicks. She got a kid now and divorced. But I will send her flowers and say thanks for the memories.
Playboy.
Best AMP sexy K-girl quotes I heard this year:
I want you to make love to me twice.
Don't cum yet.
I don't like condoms.
I love you.
Be interesting to get inside the minds of these girls. Like that Mel Gibson movie. Like how they view each customer. As an actual person or just seeing money? I'm also sure that there is an addiction thing to getting so much money so quickly by working as a provider. The money is just too easy to accumulate. One funny thing in the past was that a provider wanted to give me the money to check out another provider to find out how that provider was like.I find the subject interesting because is all my years of mongering, and I visited my first AMP in Arlington, Va. In 1975 (that was exciting!) , never even remotely developed an attachment to a provider, until 2004, as I have narrated ad nauseum on this board. A unique combination of sexy, humor and faux innocence and vulnerability, did the trick. The providers you immediately click with on more than one level are to be taken in very limited doses. Remember they are just" doing their jobs", as my little friend used to say, and they mean it. And, must admit after many years of empty marriage, and with disposable cash and a professional career, I was ripe for the picking. Should have Jbravo's outlook. LOL. I still don't understand the totally mercenary outlook of most of these ladies, but what should you expect but that. In my specific case though, I think she follows a pattern of serial bf's for cash and comfort, all without any emotion on her part. I understand this is the current situation with her in Honolulu now. Time is running out for her as a provider at 52, and she needs a place to retire. Understandable.
For sure. Look, on this subject I consider myself, humbly, to be a poster child, and I am mortified to admit it, being a reasonably intelligent person. Many of you know my history and relationship with one of your local AMP providers, Angie / Mimi / Chisuk, formerly of Golden Butterfly and Luxury Ocean and now, on and off, with Hana of Hana's on King and Honey Bee (and God knows where else). And, many of you, my critics, are aware that I have been hot about it and at times, admittedly, deranged. Suffice it to say, I know whereof I speak. A cautionary tale. To the very end of our misbegotten "relationship" in September (begun in 2004 in NC) , she attempted to extract additional funds for cosmetics, food, mouthwash, toothpaste, dental care, medical care, etc, while, she claimed, she strove bravely to extricate herself from the sordid business of the relaxation spas and fly to meet me in Cali. Angie also begged me for money weekly to help pay, allegedly, for her room at the YMCA while she worked at a dry cleaners. At the dry cleaners, she said, she injured her arm and was fired. Unless I sent her $1000, she would be on the street, she said. Come to find out 4 days after I sent the emergency money to keep her "off the street", she had in fact used that money to rent an apartment downtown for $1500 / month, plus a $1500 deposit, with the kind assistance of one of her local Honolulu customers (a monger on this Board whose handle I know she told me she met at GB) The money given her by the new bf was a" loan" of $5000, as she termed it; all this after she had begged me for a grand for the YMCA! When she told me of her new arrangement, I asked if she considered the money I had fronted her a loan to be repaid, and she said "No". I was pissed and got verbally abusive, particularly when she admitted to cheating me. I was also pissed I had never thought to consider my advances to her over the years (to payoff her enormous gambling debts to various casinos in Cali and Korean loan sharks) a loan! She reported the new bf liked her "personality" and that she was prepared to "date" and even marry him now. I guess so! In Angie's defense, I have enabled all this, and have been a flat out fool, and denied the reality before my eyes. We have gone back and forth like this for 8 years.
We have had good times, although they were mostly hers. But, and this is critical, her working girl mentality made honesty and real intimacy impossible. It's a shame; Angie has good qualities but they have, largely, been fucked out of her.
I am determined to get even but in a non-violent way and over the long haul, while learning to monger again in a healthy way.
My point is this. Never invest any emotion in these women. I suppose one in a million would pan out as a real gf or wife, but I doubt it. It ain't worth the risk. Play the lottery, the odds are better. Once you fuck for a living you can rarely see men as anything other than a money source. Sad to say, but it now makes sense. Hope Jackson lets this be posted.You do NOT want to belong to this club. If you already gave money to a hoe, you are a vet. If you have not, listen to these guys warnings. Beware of girls that say:
My father in Korea is having surgery, and my siblings only think of themselves.
I am stuck with my ex husbands credit card debt, or failed business, etc.
Need dollars for green card marriage setup, or I go back.
My inlaws took my kid.
I only working enough to save for dress shop, or real estate class, or cosmetics license.
I meet lotsa guys, but I only have feelings for you, you make me feel comftoble.
If I see a guy running down Koreamoku St, we have saved one. Do not let Korea girl into your heart!
Incogfilipino
12-31-12, 01:58
Most of the girls leave me alone since I look young, but I overhear a lot of conversations. Those type of women are the same no matter where you go, whether they are juicy girls in Korea or the hostesses in Japan or bargirls in PI. Completely not worth any type of emotional investment. I can't believe all the suckers out there, but based on what I see and overhear, those girls don't need any of my money. There is no bargirl worth marrying, unless you are a glutton for punishment and like being cheated on and giving up all your money.
You do NOT want to belong to this club. If you already gave money to a hoe, you are a vet. If you have not, listen to these guys warnings. Beware of girls that say:
My father in Korea is having surgery, and my siblings only think of themselves.
I am stuck with my ex husbands credit card debt, or failed business, etc.
Need dollars for green card marriage setup, or I go back.
My inlaws took my kid.
I only working enough to save for dress shop, or real estate class, or cosmetics license.
I meet lotsa guys, but I only have feelings for you, you make me feel comftoble.
If I see a guy running down Koreamoku St, we have saved one. Do not let Korea girl into your heart!Yup Asstro bro, and they are expert actresses worthy of academy awards. Even tho MOST guys know the reputations of sex industry K girls, the problem for the guys that get hooked is that they THINK thier girl is different. Are there different one in a thousand girls working in the industry? Maybe but odds are you will never find her, and if you did, she probably is hooked up to some other guy in the motherland or elsewhere. Wanna find out if she likes you for you and not your money? Ask her straight up! If she says not the money, then you no need buy drinks and can have free sex right? lol. I've always asked that with civilian girls so why not Kgirls in the industry? I think LVBs that never play the civilian freebie game are the most vulnarable victims. Want a relationship? Go after a nice civilian girl. Too hard? I got news for you. Kgirls are HARDER. No believe? Step in any KB and watch any guy sitting with a KBG. ALL they do is trade money for time talking, lol.(sometimes not even that). At least AMP girls trade money for sex. Its hard to get value for neko these days but we lucky we have a forum like this that MAY help a potential LVB.
Yup Asstro bro, and they are expert actresses worthy of academy awards. Even tho MOST guys know the reputations of sex industry K girls, the problem for the guys that get hooked is that they THINK thier girl is different. Are there different one in a thousand girls working in the industry? Maybe but odds are you will never find her, and if you did, she probably is hooked up to some other guy in the motherland or elsewhere. Wanna find out if she likes you for you and not your money? Ask her straight up! If she says not the money, then you no need buy drinks and can have free sex right? lol. I've always asked that with civilian girls so why not Kgirls in the industry? I think LVBs that never play the civilian freebie game are the most vulnarable victims. Want a relationship? Go after a nice civilian girl. Too hard? I got news for you. Kgirls are HARDER. No believe? Step in any KB and watch any guy sitting with a KBG. ALL they do is trade money for time talking, lol.(sometimes not even that). At least AMP girls trade money for sex. Its hard to get value for neko these days but we lucky we have a forum like this that MAY help a potential LVB.They always say it's not the money and if I had a boyfriend I would stay home or I wouldn't make him come down to spend money on me. LOL!
Yup Asstro bro, and they are expert actresses worthy of academy awards. Even tho MOST guys know the reputations of sex industry K girls, the problem for the guys that get hooked is that they THINK thier girl is different. Are there different one in a thousand girls working in the industry? Maybe but odds are you will never find her, and if you did, she probably is hooked up to some other guy in the motherland or elsewhere. Wanna find out if she likes you for you and not your money? Ask her straight up! If she says not the money, then you no need buy drinks and can have free sex right? lol. I've always asked that with civilian girls so why not Kgirls in the industry? I think LVBs that never play the civilian freebie game are the most vulnarable victims. Want a relationship? Go after a nice civilian girl. Too hard? I got news for you. Kgirls are HARDER. No believe? Step in any KB and watch any guy sitting with a KBG. ALL they do is trade money for time talking, lol.(sometimes not even that). At least AMP girls trade money for sex. Its hard to get value for neko these days but we lucky we have a forum like this that MAY help a potential LVB.Presumably these woman like Angie started out like normal, civilian women (although she, typically married a marine in Korea with, as she admitted to me after some time with the sole intent of getting to the US). At what stage does the light go out? Are some women just natural working girls? Or, after the 50th massage / fuck does the self-loathing or hatred become too much to bear and / or be honest with anyone, at least a male? When do they become essentially sociopaths? From what I read here some of them seem to enjoy the business, and not just for the money. In my experience, they go through stages; initially of course you are a mark; then if you hang with them, they become mildly fond of you and experience pangs of regret, pity and sympathy; eventually, though, because they have lost the ability to sincerely care or love another, they inevitably revert to seeing you as a depleted mark and thus expendable when the next mark appears. Certainly that was my experience with Angie. She carried on for 7 years like all she wanted was a normal life, while doing everything to avoid one. Totally self-destructive or, in the alternative, abusive. My incentive was I cared for her and wanted a better life for both of us. What a delusion.
They always say it's not the money and if I had a boyfriend I would stay home or I wouldn't make him come down to spend money on me. LOL!It doesn't matter what nationality they are white, black, red or green. Anyone female working in the industry is only in it for the money nothing else. You are badly mistaken if you think YOU are the one to get them out of the business and have the perfect family. The popular ones aren't going to walk away from the easy money they can make. Too many LVB out there who would gladly take your place. There's always going to be someone who's better looking, more money etc. Trust me, I know I speak from experience.
It doesn't matter what nationality they are white, black, red or green. Anyone female working in the industry is only in it for the money nothing else. You are badly mistaken if you think YOU are the one to get them out of the business and have the perfect family. The popular ones aren't going to walk away from the easy money they can make. Too many LVB out there who would gladly take your place. There's always going to be someone who's better looking, more money etc. Trust me, I know I speak from experience.Mind is a wonderful thing!
Idusixtyning
01-01-13, 13:34
It doesn't matter what nationality they are white, black, red or green. Anyone female working in the industry is only in it for the money nothing else. You are badly mistaken if you think YOU are the one to get them out of the business and have the perfect family. The popular ones aren't going to walk away from the easy money they can make. Too many LVB out there who would gladly take your place. There's always going to be someone who's better looking, more money etc. Trust me, I know I speak from experience.USukebe is spot on. For any of the more popular ones, the money becomes too addicting and the center of their values. When they've been in the biz long enough, there's a distortion that happens where LOVE=MONEY. I've can speak from experience too. My advice, never get emotionally involved unless you can supplant the money that they're used to having to spend. And yes, there will always be guys that will have more money. Nowadays, I know it is simply a business transaction for services rendered through the exchange of cash. I'll express my appreciation / fondness only by tipping extra. But that is where it ends.
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