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Joe Monger
05-29-06, 00:55
The cops were outside of Vick's today! Vick's will be closed until Tuesday. I hope the jackass who post an ad on CL is happy!
What about the jackasses on these boards? It's a KNOWN FACT that LE monitors this website.
Nice job ASSHOLES.
Joe
P.S. A little DISCRETION can go a long way.
What about the jackasses on these boards? It's a KNOWN FACT that LE monitors this website.
Nice job ASSHOLES.
Joe
P.S. A little DISCRETION can go a long way.
Maybe LE does, and maybe LE doesn't. Either way, it really doesn't matter. Vice absolutely know what is going on inside. Vice is simply too busy with other real crimes to work on this particular crime. All it takes, is for Vice to not be busy, a city councilman, mayor, police chief or other city or city police leader to make it a priority for vice, and Vicks probably does't stand a chance.
I used to work in Los Alamitos. I'll say one thing, their Fire Deparment is one of the most active FD's when it comes to inspections. They were in our facility all of the time. It may have to do with some of the chemicals that were around, then again, I suspect not, since they would give a through floor to ceiling inspection of the entire building, including the reception area. I'd imagine that they've been inside of Vicks while one of their girls was being balled!
We know that Vicks has advertised, as their advertisement is up on at least one website right now. I have personally seen their print advertisement in at least one asian periodical. They are not trying to hide, then again they are not trying to stand out like a sore thumb.
Now, LE may watch this board. Since it is a discussion board, it really isn't suited to reviews, as they can not be searched effectively and so on. Personally, I doubt LE has much interest in this specific website, for this specific area.
There are other competing websites, I'll abstain from naming them. Suffice it to say, one has 32 reviews on 20 different providers, over nearly 4 years. LE really doesn't need some post that does not contain any first hand information on this site, to make them want to investigate.
So, lets stop with the finger pointing, it really isn't serving any purpose.
http://longbeach.abracat.com/c2/healthfitness/results/index.xml
Looks like Vicks indeed has current advertising out there. So, lets not try to play this out like someone posted to this site and that is what got them busted, that is simply naive thinking.
One Wing Low
05-29-06, 07:59
They have to apply for the business license and renew it every year. Most cities started to get tough on AMP licenses about 10 years back. They probably had to appear in front of the city council a few times to fight for their license. The city knows exactly what's going on in these AMPs. A few of those councilmen are likely given freebies regularly just to keep them friendly.
The trigger for raids are usually complaints from neighbors or concerned citizens. When they make pests out of themselves, city councils will direct PD to investigate and raid.
PD's dont need this forum to focus their attention. Their interests in this forum are probably personal. They are horny bastards too...
Joe Monger
05-29-06, 12:28
http://longbeach.abracat.com/c2/healthfitness/results/index.xml
Looks like Vicks indeed has current advertising out there. So, lets not try to play this out like someone posted to this site and that is what got them busted, that is simply naive thinking.
Listen idiot - there are a TON on AMPs' that advertise. They advertise for a Massage or Accupuncture. They don't say;
Vicks Accupressure aka Asian Brothel
Come fuck nice Asian ******! Especially [insert name] and [insert name]! It's $50 to enter and only $80-$100 for the girl!
I know of some GREAT AMPS. They advertise too. But I don't see assholes posting their information all over the internet. And they've NEVER, according to their Mamasans, been busted. Don't say that it doesn't make a difference. What you're doing isn't ADVERTISING or REVIEWING. You're placing a BULLSEYE on Vicks (and other AMPs') by releasing names, times girls work, ect. And when they get busted you're standing back and saying; "It's not MY fault." Guess what? It is. Yours and the other people who can't figure out how to use, or are to lazy to use, the PM system.
And I don't know how long you've been reading or posting on these boards. It's a known fact that LE has referred to this board, and the others like it, in news articles regarding prostitution. And other members have posted links to these articles in the past. Do some reading.
Joe
Listen idiot - there are a TON on AMPs' that advertise. They advertise for a Massage or Accupuncture. They don't say;
Vicks Accupressure aka Asian Brothel
Come fuck nice Asian ******! Especially [insert name] and [insert name]! It's $50 to enter and only $80-$100 for the girl!
I know of some GREAT AMPS. They advertise too. But I don't see assholes posting their information all over the internet. And they've NEVER, according to their Mamasans, been busted. Don't say that it doesn't make a difference. What you're doing isn't ADVERTISING or REVIEWING. You're placing a BULLSEYE on Vicks (and other AMPs') by releasing names, times girls work, ect. And when they get busted you're standing back and saying; "It's not MY fault." Guess what? It is. Yours and the other people who can't figure out how to use, or are to lazy to use, the PM system.
And I don't know how long you've been reading or posting on these boards. It's a known fact that LE has referred to this board, and the others like it, in news articles regarding prostitution. And other members have posted links to these articles in the past. Do some reading.
Joe
It seems obvious that you didn't actually read the advertisement that was posted to CL, which I copied onto this board.
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=436872
No where in it, does it mention anything about being a brothel, nor does it mention any pricing, nor does it mention working schedules. In fact, it mentions nothing more than the ads for the place in Brea:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ers/165665174.html
Which happens to be a 100% legitimate massage and nothing more. The ad was only complementary.
The idea of this board is to share information. Since there is a board that offers explicit reviews, prices and names, etc, why in the world would we use PM here? The only purpose that serves is to make this board less useful and promote the use of that other board. I don't think that is in the interest of us here, is it?
LE knows how these places operate. They don't need this board to tell them if a place is operating within the law or not. If LE wants to bust them, they just send in an undercover detective and most likely they will be offered service, just as we are.
Since Vicks has been operating for many years, with reviews going back many years, Los Alamitos vice just has other priorities. This may never become a priority, or it might become a priority in an instant.
Probably the most important thing that we can do to protect these places is to be extremely respectful of the surrounding businesses. They know what is going on inside, or strongly suspect it. Walk into these places confidently like you would any other business. Don't draw attention to yourself. If the neighboring businesses see people walking in while covering their face, or looking at the ground, or suspiciously looking around, those are the kinds of things that make people uncomfortable.
Jonathan1301
05-29-06, 15:39
Hey guys has anyone visited this place, I am thinking of going there but i think its like EDEN spa, or that other place in Brea.
>GRACE AND SOOTHING WONDERFUL ORIENTAL LADY MASSAGE ! GOOD >SWEDISH OR DEEP TISSUE MASSAGE ! Our goal is that you fell over all feel >better. Guarantee you will feel completely relaxed and balanced after massage.
>For a good massage please call 626-369-6133
>1035 Olympus Av. ( at Gale Av.) Hacienda Hts. CA 91745
The idea of this board is to share information. Since there is a board that offers explicit reviews, prices and names, etc, why in the world would we use PM here? The only purpose that serves is to make this board less useful and promote the use of that other board. I don't think that is in the interest of us here, is it?
LE knows how these places operate. They don't need this board to tell them if a place is operating within the law or not. If LE wants to bust them, they just send in an undercover detective and most likely they will be offered service, just as we are.
Since Vicks has been operating for many years, with reviews going back many years, Los Alamitos vice just has other priorities. This may never become a priority, or it might become a priority in an instant.
Probably the most important thing that we can do to protect these places is to be extremely respectful of the surrounding businesses. They know what is going on inside, or strongly suspect it. [/QUOTE]It amazes me that people still raise these concerns about LE shutting down AMPs based on monitoring these boards. I can name so many places that have continued to be in business for many years despite posts and reviews with all kinds of explicit information about sexual services on this and another well-known board. There is no question that LE knows what is going on at these places. Some municipalities choose to strictly limit the availability of sexual services at AMPs (seems like Costa Mesa would be an example), while others look away (Inglewood, Santa Monica, Hollywood are the most blatant local examples) unless a problem (see below) becomes apparent.
A couple of days ago, on this board I posted about a conversation I had with a former LE friend indicating that these places are raided primarily if they are stealing/money laundering, spreading diseases, disrupting the neighborhood, or human trafficking (the reason for the recent shutdown of some Inglewood AMPs). The posts that I have seen on this and other boards which might jeopardize an AMP are those that indicate BBFS or BB Anal were offered/performed and those suggesting that a monger might have caught an STD at an AMP. Although I greatly value sharing as much info as possible, I think that kind of info might be best shared with PM's. Otherwise, let's not turn this board into a useless waste of bandwidth by over-censoring ourselves.
Rockett Man
05-29-06, 16:27
I agree with Joe. Better not to go naming exact names of places. Yes, this is a public board. My 2 cents.
Listen idiot - there are a TON on AMPs' that advertise. They advertise for a Massage or Accupuncture. They don't say;
Vicks Accupressure aka Asian Brothel
Come fuck nice Asian ******! Especially [insert name] and [insert name]! It's $50 to enter and only $80-$100 for the girl!
I know of some GREAT AMPS. They advertise too. But I don't see assholes posting their information all over the internet. And they've NEVER, according to their Mamasans, been busted. Don't say that it doesn't make a difference. What you're doing isn't ADVERTISING or REVIEWING. You're placing a BULLSEYE on Vicks (and other AMPs') by releasing names, times girls work, ect. And when they get busted you're standing back and saying; "It's not MY fault." Guess what? It is. Yours and the other people who can't figure out how to use, or are to lazy to use, the PM system.
And I don't know how long you've been reading or posting on these boards. It's a known fact that LE has referred to this board, and the others like it, in news articles regarding prostitution. And other members have posted links to these articles in the past. Do some reading.
Joe
Let me see if I can get this correct, as it has been, maybe 10 years or so, maybe even longer.
City of Anaheim started to arrest the girls in strip clubs. I just don't recall the details so well, but I think the arrests had something to do with lap dances. One thing I do recall very well, the clubs had put tape around the seating and the girls could not cross the tape, without risking arrest.
I don't recall what charges the Police levied against the girls, but what ever the case, the write up in the paper made it seem that if the charges were to stick, the girls would then be subject to registering as a sex offender.
Anyone know/remember details of that whole incident?
Fast forward nearly 10 years later, Anaheim still has the very same strip clubs, and now has a flourishing AMP industry. I think there are nearly a dozen AMP's.
So, what has changed in Anaheim to have made it come so far in enforcement? Does anyone recall who was the person that insisted on the heavy enforcement of sex crimes in the strip clubs?
I agree with Joe. Better not to go naming exact names of places. Yes, this is a public board. My 2 cents.
If this were the one and only place where this information were available, then it might be beneficial to not name places, or review, etc. But, this is hardly the only place.
The goal, is to make this board the most valuable. By not giving good information, then that makes room for the other forums to compete. Some of those boards go into way more detail than has ever been available here.
Remember, there is no way to tell about a place in a ambigiuos manor with any sort of value without LE being able to have the same understanding as any one of us.
Quite simply, LE does not need this board. While I am not an attorney, I'd say its a pretty safe bet that what ever is said here can not be used as any kind of evidence against any establishment.
Member #3942
05-29-06, 22:10
So true about other sites giving way more info. Example: Massage Palor Reviews. That site tells the name of the place, the adress, the phone number and the girls name and what she does for her massage AND extras!! So I think just relax and say whatever you want. This forum is only good if you give some details and say what the deal is. Whats the point of giving a report like the following:
I went to ********* amp. The girl was hot and gave FS and BJ till I passed out. It cost $$$>$$$$$ and dont message me unless you have over 400 good posts.
My point being is just say whatever you want. If the place gets busted there are more. If you think something you say is going to get the place closed down then on my next post, I will name every single massage place and state that they all give either HJ, BJ or FS and I will give numbers and addresses. Will that chill everyone out and we can get back to some real posts? Stop smoking so much dope, some of you guys really are thinking way too much.
St Stephen
05-29-06, 23:31
I think that it is best to give clues and let the other guys figure it out. Or pm each other. I'm 53 and have been doing this since around 1980. I can't even find a streetwalker unless I go to Compton. No offense, but I have served on a few jurys in Compton and lived in Compton until 1967.compton is no place for me. I remember the day when you could do massive loops around OC. One example, Beach to Garden Grove to Harbour, north to Lincoln, and Lincoln back to Beach and many places in between. The Santa Ana loop, mix 'em up any way you like. Sunset loop, Sepulveda it was a great time. Now I don't waste my time. There are hardly any girls and LE is everywhere, the new laws, it's just not worth it to me. I am glad I found the AMP scene. It's not hard to find one, even if you only get a massage while looking it's still fun. I love the board, but if I was law enforcement I would use it too. Look, they can't stop drugs, violent crime, illegal immigration, and any number of real crimes that are having a negative effect on our lives, so they pick on our hobby, it makes it look like they are doing something. Remember it's an election year. Let's not make it too easy for them to look good.
Joe Monger
05-29-06, 23:37
No where in it, does it mention anything about being a brothel, nor does it mention any pricing, nor does it mention working schedules.
Thats was my point asshole. YOU, and the morons LIKE YOU, mention that sex can be had at Vicks. Vicks DOESN'T openly advertise that sex can be had there. So YOU shouldn't either.
So I think just relax and say whatever you want. This forum is only good if you give some details and say what the deal is.
Okay smart guy. But let me tell you this - there is a wealth of knowledge to be gained from various experienced members on these boards. Most of them will not share their knowledge openly on the board or with members like YOU. There is a RIGHT way to share info - via the PM system or through posts such as the following;
Stopped by an AMP this week and saw miss "M". M is an Asian girl, probably in her late 20s. Not a knockout for looks, but I'd give her a 7. Great pair of bolt-ons, and a decent ass. A number of tattoos on various parts of her bod.
No preliminaries, she just comes into the room, says "hi" and strips (mamasan knows me and has told her I'm a regular). Then it's the usual drill: hj, cbj, cg, mish, ds. No objections as I put my hands anywhere I want as well. Finally greek ds to completion.
All in all a very pleasant experience for $.9 total. I'll repeat.
THAT is how it's done. Learn to be a bit more discreet and use the PM system...or just continue fucking it up for EVERYONE.
Joe
It seems obvious that you didn't actually read the advertisement that was posted to CL, which I copied onto this board.
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=436872
No where in it, does it mention anything about being a brothel, nor does it mention any pricing, nor does it mention working schedules. In fact, it mentions nothing more than the ads for the place in Brea:
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ers/165665174.html
Which happens to be a 100% legitimate massage and nothing more. The ad was only complementary.
The idea of this board is to share information. Since there is a board that offers explicit reviews, prices and names, etc, why in the world would we use PM here? The only purpose that serves is to make this board less useful and promote the use of that other board. I don't think that is in the interest of us here, is it?
LE knows how these places operate. They don't need this board to tell them if a place is operating within the law or not. If LE wants to bust them, they just send in an undercover detective and most likely they will be offered service, just as we are.
Since Vicks has been operating for many years, with reviews going back many years, Los Alamitos vice just has other priorities. This may never become a priority, or it might become a priority in an instant.
Probably the most important thing that we can do to protect these places is to be extremely respectful of the surrounding businesses. They know what is going on inside, or strongly suspect it. Walk into these places confidently like you would any other business. Don't draw attention to yourself. If the neighboring businesses see people walking in while covering their face, or looking at the ground, or suspiciously looking around, those are the kinds of things that make people uncomfortable.
BULLSHIT STATEMENT #1:
"No where in it, does it mention anything about being a brothel"
MY RESPONSE TO BS STATEMENT #1:
The asshole posted THREE ads, one of which was posted on the LA Craigslist titled: "California's only Legalized Brothel and Massage Parlor - w4m"
NOW ARE YOU GOING TO SAY IT WAS DEROGATORY?
BULLSHIT STATEMENT #2:
"In fact, it mentions nothing more than the ads for the place in Brea"
MY RESPONSE TO BS STATEMENT #2:
You even stated that the place in Brea was 100% legit... The could have put a picture of a girl totally nude and spread-eagle and it would not have made a difference (other than getting vice cops to check it out faster). The fact is that Linda did not want the ad, the asshole had no business posting them. This fucker was trying using the ads as extortion, he knew EXACTLY what the ads would do. I successfully got access to CL blocked, but it was too late!
BULLSHIT STATEMENT #3:
"Since Vicks has been operating for many years, with reviews going back many years, Los Alamitos vice just has other priorities. This may never become a priority, or it might become a priority in an instant."
MY RESPONSE TO BS STATEMENT #3
What the fuck do you mean that "This may never become a priority"? VICKS HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN, THERE IS A COP CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF THE PLACE! WHAT MORE FUCKING PROOF DO YOU NEED????
In closing, you set off fireworks, you will generate attention... Now a classy, decent place is gone.
In the past, I have been just as guilty as others in publicly posting details. NEVER AGAIN!!
Plane Guy
My oh my, all this bickering!
Do not worry about these well financed MPs.
Your door entry fee is steep so the MP can keep a very capable, and expensive, specialty lawyer on retainer fee.
Remember the Mitchell brothers and their famous legal to and fro with Santa Ana/Orange County prosecutors over lewd movies, lewd behavior in the cinema, urban blight etc. for showing porno movies?
After many sucessful defenses, Mitchell brothers won a huge harassment suit versus Santa Ana. The DAs office has to get a sucessful prosecution the first or second effort lest they get socked with a monster retaliatory suit for harassment.
MPs, although we the customer never see it, constantly give to every BS solicitation for ad space in the police officers newsletter, firemen's benefit show, etc etc.
Buy a decal for donating to the police widows fund, display in prominently in your car window ... and you will never get a traffic ticket (just point to it when pulled over).
It's sorta the same mentality when you're in the post office and buy a magnetic decal saying "Support the Troops". Betcha 80% of the buyers, if interviewed, would say they own it to lessen the traffic moving violation exposure.
If police want to know if a suntan parlor is legit or playing games ... it is as easy as placing one phone call.
If the suntan parlor spokesperson says
"We charge $3 for half-hour, $5 for hour." ... its legit.
but
If the answer is ... "$40 for half-hour, $60 for 45 minutes, $80 for hour" then everybody knows games are being played next to those tanning beds (bet the ladies couldn't turn the tanning machine "On" if their life depended on it).
Question, what should a (LE) reader think if a monger with 100 posts reviews a MP more than once?
Answer, something about that place warranted a sex afficienato to make a return visit. H-m-m-m?
Posters who can describe the massuese in detail, ... i.e. cosmetically enhanced breasts, shaven pubic region, c-section scar ... it's fair to say that even the police department beat patrol idiot can put 2 & 2 together and figure out how the poster came about attaining such knowledge.
If you want to post details about a MP ... you're not providing virgin awareness of the establishment.
When you pay $40-$50 door entry fee ... you not only are bankrolling mamasan's Mercedes Benz but are paying the lawyer's retainer fee, the owners' miscellaneous advertising fee that makes the police OFFICER happy that his family will enjoy a summer cop all-day picnic promotional at a park, etc. etc.
As any Mafia higher-up will tell you ... "the cops are for sale, everybody has a price".
Never doubt it!!
Samurai II
05-30-06, 11:59
The cops were outside of Vick's today! Vick's will be closed until Tuesday. I hope the jackass who post an ad on CL is happy!
GOD DAMN IT!!
Samurai II
05-30-06, 12:01
The cops were outside of Vick's today! Vick's will be closed until Tuesday. I hope the jackass who post an ad on CL is happy!
Hey Three X,
Thanks for the report.
Samurai
Samurai II
05-30-06, 12:05
Hey gentlemen,
What is the current going rate on tips for a hj at a MP? I haven't had hj's lately so I am at a loss. I am expecting a hj at a pretty legit looking place, next time I visit.
Samurai
No more than .4.
Hey gentlemen,
What is the current going rate on tips for a hj at a MP? I haven't had hj's lately so I am at a loss. I am expecting a hj at a pretty legit looking place, next time I visit.
Samurai
Hey gentlemen,
What is the current going rate on tips for a hj at a MP? I haven't had hj's lately so I am at a loss. I am expecting a hj at a pretty legit looking place, next time I visit.
SamuraiIf you're paying $40 for 1/2 hr, I wouldn't pay more than $20. If it's $50, then $25. Good service could command more, as bad service needs to been emphasized. I had some situations that were so bad, I just walked out with them screaming at me, but if you're not going bad who cares.
My oh my, all this bickering!
Do not worry about these well financed MPs.
My grudge is with the son of a ***** that posted the "ad." Up until then, Vick's never drew too much attention to themselves, they had NEVER been inspected.
Suddenly this stupid, self-centered SOB decides he can use extortion to get freebies and brings attention to the place... Now a great, clean and decent place has been shut down.... and I am FUCKING PISSED!
My grudge is with the son of a ***** that posted the "ad." Up until then, Vick's never drew too much attention to themselves, they had NEVER been inspected.
Suddenly this stupid, self-centered SOB decides he can use extortion to get freebies and brings attention to the place... Now a great, clean and decent place has been shut down.... and I am FUCKING PISSED!
I'll agree with you on these points. I think we all have opinions and have expressed them here. That is part of what makes this place great!
As far as Vicks goes as I drove by twice today at different times. Once, the open sign was not illuminated, but the back door was open, but the security gate was closed. The 2nd, the back door was closed, but the open sign or what ever it says, was illuminated.
Now, the good/bad news. Only a guess, since they were technically open, they probably were not busted. No doubt, they had a "meeting" with the Police. I suspect that the Police didn't find enough to really make a case. Since they may not be able to make a case, they decided to do what they could without expending much energy, which is to run Vicks out of town.
So, what do they do? Los Alamitos has decided to leave a cruiser backed into one of the parking spots right in front of Vicks. It was there both times I drove by and furthermore, appears to have been sitting there for a few days, as it was not clean and shiny.
I'd have to guess, the SOB that wanted to extort services from them probably drew the men in blues attention. How exactly, who knows. I'd bet that he did much more than just the CL posts.
Only Linda can tell us for sure, since the Police reports are probably not easily available. According to some court websites, they want a defendants name and date of birth. I doubt we can get that information, since we have no idea of who the defendant is.
So, one of you that is friendly with "Linda" may be able to get the real story. Whether you want to tell bits and pieces of it, that is up to you.
BTW, around X-mas time, 2005, this post claims that LE enjoys to hang out in the back of the complex.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=405534
Samurai II
05-31-06, 11:57
Hey gentlemen,
What is the current going rate on tips for a hj at a MP? I haven't had hj's lately so I am at a loss. I am expecting a hj at a pretty legit looking place, next time I visit.
Samurai
Thank you all for your input! I will now confidently go for my massage with happy ending! Hopefully.
Samurai
TOFTT - DP across from Hollywood. Got Lucy. Old, fat, bad massage. Asked for dough up front. Wanted $ for blow. She would have had to pay me. Got HJ for 4 upfront. Very mediocre. Paid for an hour, got 45 minutes. Pretends she doesn't speak English. Avoid Lucy at all cost.
Member #3942
06-01-06, 09:22
Sure is hard to find a good massage with a BJ or FS. Hate going in for a lame massage then quick extra. Need to find that good massage with lots of play then a good bj. Some new places out there but I know nothing about them yet.
If you have info on a good massage and a BJ drop me a line.
http://longbeach.abracat.com/c2/healthfitness/results/index.xml
Looks like Vicks indeed has current advertising out there. So, lets not try to play this out like someone posted to this site and that is what got them busted, that is simply naive thinking.
You are a dumbass.
It's not hard to give hints about places. It's actually really easy. I believe you may be the culprit of extortion. You stupid Jackass!
You are a dumbass.
It's not hard to give hints about places. It's actually really easy. I believe you may be the culprit of extortion. You stupid Jackass!
This is really unbelievable. Nobody has even make a decent argument against giving details. I've made my argument. It is simple, this is a great discussion board, there are others as well, some of those others offer much more in the way of detail and quanity, and searchable. Why would it make any difference if we say it like it is here? It just doesn't.
Instead, some of you with opposing views have started name calling since your frustrated and unable to make a decent opposing argument. About as good of an argument gets, is "Give Hints". Do you really believe you can give a hint that we might be able to understand, but at the same time LE would not have the same understanding.?
Now, it is extremely simple thinking to suggest that the CL ads had anything at all to do with the bust. There is a ton of information on other boards, and on this board in 2005 and before. Anyone remember this nick name for this place? Vicks Accufuck. Now, what do you think this says about Vicks?
Now, that is not to say that the individual(s) that posted those ads had nothing to do with the issues that Vicks has recently suffered.
As far as me being the culprit, that is laughable. I really don't need to extort 50 bucks from a massage parlor, nor do I need to get a freebee either.
There isn't too many things lower than trying to extort services from a girl in this industry. I don't think there are many girls that always wanted to be a prostitute when they grew up. I'm going to guess that there is a small number of girls that do this because they thought the money was going to be great. Maybe it is. I'm going to further guess, that the majority are doing it because they need to. Maybe their family is in desperate need of money, maybe their family insisted on a marriage partner that was not of this girls choice. I could go on and on. These girls are likely victims of some kind and they are making the best of it. In my opinion, these girls are limiting their future, if they want to be married, have children, etc. With this in mind, if the service was good and I enjoyed myself, I will usually leave more than what was expected or asked for, in LA/OC the expected or asked for amount is normally $100 for 30 minutes. So, I leave more than that.
So no, I had nothing to do with the situation that Vicks has found themselves in. I do feel bad that they are in this situation. This doesn't help us, since it will limit choices, although that will be temporary, since most likely, Vicks will feel the need to move and will. I doubt the name will remain the same.
Joe Monger
06-01-06, 12:59
This is really unbelievable. Nobody has even make a decent argument against giving details.
It IS unbelievable...how obtuse you are. The counter-argument was made in the form of LE paying a visit to Vicks. You are obviously NEW, relatively speaking, to this hobby. A quick run through the forums, specifically SFV and LA, will illuminate you to the havoc that LE wreaked on our hobby over the last few years. And as I've said previously this board has been mentioned in various newspaper and television reports. There is no doubt that LE monitors this board.
No one here is trying to tell you NOT to share information. We're just asking you to do it with a modicum of discretion.
And it CAN be done because many of us here do it ALL THE TIME.
PM, motherfucker, PM.
Joe
Beer Guzzler
06-01-06, 13:56
Guys, can we all get back to what this forum was originally intended for?
Beer Guzzler
I feel bad for you guys and the situation at Vicks Vapo Rub.
I hope that LE evaporates like Menthol and business gets back to normal.
I know that usually takes a long time if ever.
I agreee that NO ONE should advertise an AMP on Craigslist.
There's just way too much traffic and bozos on CL.
Compliments to Jackson for creating and sustaining the U.S.G (originally the W.S.G.) Does anyone know when it was established?
I've been following this sight for years, and feel confident handling almost any AMP visit, from all the wisdom I've gleaned over the years.
Jurassic
TOFTT tonight at a new AMP. Very cute provider, Mimi, but definitely no extras. She stayed out of reach almost the entire time...I am still wondering how she did that. Massage OK, but not why I went there.
Had Gina. Short, fat. Not a lick of Inglish. Very mechanical. No clean up even offered. Hate that. $6 damage. Don't get Gina'd
It IS unbelievable...how obtuse you are. The counter-argument was made in the form of LE paying a visit to Vicks. You are obviously NEW, relatively speaking, to this hobby. A quick run through the forums, specifically SFV and LA, will illuminate you to the havoc that LE wreaked on our hobby over the last few years. And as I've said previously this board has been mentioned in various newspaper and television reports. There is no doubt that LE monitors this board.
No one here is trying to tell you NOT to share information. We're just asking you to do it with a modicum of discretion.
And it CAN be done because many of us here do it ALL THE TIME.
PM, motherfucker, PM.
Joe
Yes, that argument has been made and noted. It certainly doesn't address other questions, which also need answers.
In a followup post, I'll have some very direct questions, try to answer them. If you have answers/solutions to them, then I would agree that PM would be the best route.
Honestly though, there really isn't a solution to the issues that I raise.
Now, you make a point that I will mostly agree with. I know I have seen news reports that have associated various websites with busts. I do recall the Yorba Linda bust that was attributed to CL. I think we all can agree, the Yorba Linda bust was more of an anomoly. How many escorts/parlors have been busted within a few weeks of a "Grand Opening"? Not many. Probably has never happened in Inglewood.
Vicks, I feel the case was being made long ago, per previous posts indicating LE questioning people in the area, etc. I also feel the person that did the CL posts, did much more than the posts to make sure that Vicks got noticed.
As far as me being new, no that is hardly the case. I've followed these boards since before the times where they grew out of the usenet group alt.sex.prostitution. If you see xxx's, then its considered a competing forum. Probably a legacy thing, since there is nothing there but SPAM anymore.
I've read of all of the busts. Yes, in recent months there have been some nationwide busts. Based on the indictments, purely my opinion, those were all about money. The Federal Govt wants the money, which it maybe entitled to if the People can make its case.
So, hopefully I'll get great answers to the questions and debate will be concluded. Otherwise, I'll consider the debate concluded, but no solution was really found.
I have these questions before, but maybe not so directly. If you want to convince anyone why one would resort to PM, you will need to have sensible answers for these questions. I suspect this can not be done, so think hard. If you have answers, prepare to be challenged on your points.
I'm asking this of all of you, so if you have a great answer for one, that is alright, give the answer and maybe someone can answer the 2nd question following your answer to the other question.
q1.There are other sites, that offer reviews. If we don't give the details here, then what do we do about those other sites that are giving the details that we would be interested to see?
q2.By not reporting here, how exactly does that help, considering the information is available on other forums?
q3.If we have "stumbled" upon this site and others, do you really believe that LE does not know of those other sites, some of which have been mentioned in this specific topic, and elsewhere on this forum?
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I base my opinion based on those questions. We can not control what happens on other forums. They are out there. LE knows of them just as it knows of this forum. Therefore, it doesn't matter how much or little detail is included here. To post less info, only makes this forum less useful to us, and gives LE more time to look over the other forums.
So, we all know Vicks is in trouble. Does anyone know exactly what is going on? I'm looking for first hand experience, someone who walked through the front door.
I drove by this afternoon, the Police Cruiser is still parked in front. The open sign was lit. I saw a potential monger enter, by the time I made it down the "row", I saw in my rear-view mirror that he was leaving.
While driving by, I saw what I am assuming was a working from one of the offices "peeking" around the corner, looking at the front door. It seems he is curious to what is going to happen next.
OC AMPER- DO NOT POST Addresses, phone numbers, and names. Come on man! Don't overcomplicate this thing.
Sure LE can get a pretty good idea of what's going on from this site and others, but when you draw them a map with a ton of info, they will be sure to check it out.
Wake up and smell the coffee genius........
Regarding Vics. It doesn't look like a typical bust. Generally a bust results in the place closed down immediately.
Here, we've continuous police presense. The place still allows visitors to enter even though they're turned away. The original post states that the place is closed for the weekend but will re-open "Tuesday." Busted places don't reopen.
What it sounds like is a crime scene investigation inside. There is no report of an ambulance. So no one died.
Could this be a robbery investigation?
Viper92552
06-02-06, 11:19
OC AMPER- DO NOT POST Addresses, phone numbers, and names. Come on man! Don't overcomplicate this thing.
Sure LE can get a pretty good idea of what's going on from this site and others, but when you draw them a map with a ton of info, they will be sure to check it out.
Wake up and smell the coffee genius........When LE rights their reports they will print out this page as more evidence.
No names
No numbers
IM/PM a guy if you want to share info!
OC AMPER- DO NOT POST Addresses, phone numbers, and names. Come on man! Don't overcomplicate this thing.
Sure LE can get a pretty good idea of what's going on from this site and others, but when you draw them a map with a ton of info, they will be sure to check it out.
Wake up and smell the coffee genius........
The other sites already has addresses, phone numbers and names. The map is already drawn out on the other sites, therefore it makes no difference if you do it here.
I would not exchange any information with OC AMPER.
This guy is just plain STUPID!
Do not exchange information with OC AMPER>
Beer Guzzler
06-02-06, 16:00
So I went to the Garry place previously mentioned a couple of weeks ago. Paid my .4 for half and Linda greeted me in. Asked questions to size me up and when she no longer felt I was LE she took care of me. She lubed me up, stroked me, bbbj, and cowgirl rode me. I sucked on her big luscious nipples and had much fun for $. Be very careful, Linda will try to ride you bareback so bring your own party hat. Overall good experience, just I was expecting a Latina like the previous post mentioned.
Does anyone know of any good Latina MPs? Everytime I go to a AMP I feel I am repeating my Whisper Alley days in Okinawa. I'm want try something different. I didn't get a chance to experience Bebe, I heard she was awesome. Please PM if you have any good places.
Beer Guzzler
When LE rights their reports they will print out this page as more evidence.
No names
No numbers
IM/PM a guy if you want to share info!
I don't believe evidence would be the correct term. I'd be willing to bet that any competent attorney would not allow this to come into evidence.
I'd be surprised if a DA would even attempt to introduce this into evidence, unless it was purely for show to influence the jury.
Remember, the defense would have the right to cross-examine any of these statements. Since there may be no practicle way of identifying any of us, this would not likely be used as any kind of evidence.
This still doesn't address the notion that this information is still available on many other sites.
Does local LE visit these sites, yeah probably. I think we've all agreed to that. Is USG their exclusive source, no not hardly. I'd suggest, they only look at these kinds of sites when there is a reason to, IE they get a complaint from someone, or when the political environment changes. Someone else asked someone who was in LE or retired, what causes an investigation. Look down further if you like.
Two great examples, Tokyo Accupressure. Inglewood seems to tolerate this kind of business. TA has been writen about for over 10 years.
From the opposite side, the Yorba Linda, AAMP. It was taken down in nearly record time. Its obvious YL/Brea police just doesn't tolerate this kind of activity.
Regarding Vics. It doesn't look like a typical bust. Generally a bust results in the place closed down immediately.
Here, we've continuous police presense. The place still allows visitors to enter even though they're turned away. The original post states that the place is closed for the weekend but will re-open "Tuesday." Busted places don't reopen.
What it sounds like is a crime scene investigation inside. There is no report of an ambulance. So no one died.
Could this be a robbery investigation?
If an AMP were robbed, it seems doubtful that they would actually call the Police. But who knows. In any case, good alternative thinking.
What ever happened, the Police did not get what they want, since they've elected to park their vehicle as a deterent to customers.
...The original post states that the place is closed for the weekend but will re-open "Tuesday." Busted places don't reopen.
What it sounds like is a crime scene investigation inside. There is no report of an ambulance. So no one died.
Could this be a robbery investigation?
Open Tuesday? I don't think so! I drove by every day this week. A police car has been parked right in front every day, no lights on, no open sign.
I don't know where the reopening on Tuesday came from.
Member #3942
06-02-06, 22:01
Wooohooo have not seen this many posts for a long time.
I'm looking at the bottom of page 10 of yesterday's OCR's Sport's section and they are 23 massage parlors advertising their services. All LE needs to do to open the Sports section, with their morning cup of joe and donuts, and plot out their day. I don't think it's any secret these places exist.
Sure of the ads are pretty provocative, like "pretty young girls", "private, friendly & cozy", 'best service", "sweet asian girls", "cute mexican girls", "beautiful girls", "grogeous exotic girls", "get touched by asian girls", "sweet asian girls" and the best love "rainforest love massage" This certainly isn't the kind of copy that would be used by a legitimate therapeutic massage service.
Hey, some of our favorites are advertising here, and the phrase I like the best is "Grand Opening" which eight of the 24 are using. They may have been in business for years, but it's always "Grand Opening", or under new owners. There is one at 1742 Meats Road, Orange that's "Voted Best in Orange County", now I don't remember participating in the election, but they give a free table shower/body scrub.
LE is not dumb and they know exactly what's going on, it's just not a priority unless some politican start screaming around election time, which it is coming up in November. So, be aware, your favorite spot may be getting a little more scrutinity than before.
Open Tuesday? I don't think so! I drove by every day this week. A police car has been parked right in front every day, no lights on, no open sign.
I don't know where the reopening on Tuesday came from.Here is the original post -
"The cops were outside of Vick's today! Vick's will be closed until Tuesday. I hope the jackass who post an ad on CL is happy!"
I'm not discounting a bust. But it's uncommon to waste several cops posting them outside to discourage anyone.
If it was a bust. LE can just shut the entire place down, then send in investigators to collect evidence, which will not take several days considering the crime is prostitution and solicitation. They don't need to pay their people to play watchdog.
Viper92552
06-03-06, 12:28
I don't believe evidence would be the correct term. I'd be willing to bet that any competent attorney would not allow this to come into evidence.
I'd be surprised if a DA would even attempt to introduce this into evidence, unless it was purely for show to influence the jury.
Remember, the defense would have the right to cross-examine any of these statements. Since there may be no practicle way of identifying any of us, this would not likely be used as any kind of evidence.
This still doesn't address the notion that this information is still available on many other sites.
Does local LE visit these sites, yeah probably. I think we've all agreed to that. Is USG their exclusive source, no not hardly. I'd suggest, they only look at these kinds of sites when there is a reason to, IE they get a complaint from someone, or when the political environment changes. Someone else asked someone who was in LE or retired, what causes an investigation. Look down further if you like.
Two great examples, Tokyo Accupressure. Inglewood seems to tolerate this kind of business. TA has been writen about for over 10 years.
From the opposite side, the Yorba Linda, AAMP. It was taken down in nearly record time. Its obvious YL/Brea police just doesn't tolerate this kind of activity.
TA is in the wood a different County with different problems DRUGS and GANGS!
This is the O.C.!
Jesus Christ....ENOUGH alreade. Is Vicks open or closed? I guess I'll just call and find out.
Why not stop all of this bickering and get back to the original intent of this forum?
Now someone wants to "blacklist" Oc Amper....for what? Having an opinion that is not yours? Is there any evidence that he didanything more than state his opinion, just like you did?
I will tell you from personal experience that this kind of divisive bullshit is what closes forums like this down.
I have stayed out of this as much as possible and frankly I am not interested in name calling or destrutive and just plane nasty posts. It is healthy to disagree if you have a counter argument, but to start name calling and blacklisting is counterproductive. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, if you agree fine, if you disagree fine.. This is not a street fight, just an exchange of information, opinions fall under that catagory.
Please for the sake of this forum stop the bashing!
This is MY opinion....
Yoda ....OUT!
I don't believe evidence would be the correct term. I'd be willing to bet that any competent attorney would not allow this to come into evidence.
I'd be surprised if a DA would even attempt to introduce this into evidence, unless it was purely for show to influence the jury.
Remember, the defense would have the right to cross-examine any of these statements. Since there may be no practicle way of identifying any of us, this would not likely be used as any kind of evidence.There is no way that these posts alone could be used as evidence. It would be considered hearsay, and not just hearsay, but hearsay from unknown parties. Completely useless. The threshold for presenting evidence in a trial is very high. On the other hand, this info could be used to set off an investigation - LE can use info from posts to have probable cause that illegal acts are occuring.
But, I completely agree with OCAMPer on this and have posted about it several times before: of course all of LE already knows about what these places do and are probably monitoring all of the related internet boards, some of which present very detailed info about locations, phone numbers, provider names, and sexual acts. Some jurisdictions - we can easily figure out where they are - are more tolerant of these activities than others. The long-standing AMPs in these cities are not going to be affected by detailed posts here, unless we indicate there is stealing, human trafficking, or health hazards (STD's). I discussed some of this in a bit more detail in previous posts on this thread.
I have to agree with Yodaman. Both sides have expressed their views and let's agree to disagree and move on.
In all of Orange County their must be dozens of places that need reviews.
I paid them a visit this morning. Usually, I'll get there before the rush, but apparently today I got there during a quite busy time.
I needed to wait 15-20 minutes for my "turn".
I got a great looking girl, who told me her name, but I failed to understand so I didn't ask again what her name was :(
Anyways, she was around 5'4", long brown hair, along with a nicely shaved pussy. Nice BJ, great cowgirl, ended with mish.
She was going to clean me up with alcohol, but I insisted on a shower, she informed me that there was no hot water. Fortunately, the water wasn't really all that cold, but definitely colder than I would usually have it.
The strange thing, once I returned to the room, the mamasan had brought me water and was wanting to accept the tip. Relunctantly, I gave it to her :(
Since girl trusted the mamasan to see me to the door and the mamasan is known to confront those who try to leave a substandard tip along with the fact that I'm a somewhat regular, I'm sure that the girl got the tip.
Open Tuesday? I don't think so! I drove by every day this week. A police car has been parked right in front every day, no lights on, no open sign.
I don't know where the reopening on Tuesday came from.
The Tuesday was a statement from Three X.
I was in the area and drove by. While coming down the driveway, I saw what I'm assuming was the mamasan exiting the business. An older lady, 55-65ish, really short hair. Anyways, she walked towards the back of the complex and was checking out some dude in a silver minivan. Their open sign was illuminated.
Being the great city stewards they are, Los Alamitos Police saw their the police car was quickly becoming an eyesore, so they replaced that dirty cruiser with a freshly washed cruiser.
Member #3942
06-03-06, 22:29
In the last 20 posts only OCamper gave any info about an AMP and some details. Good for him.
I know about the lame place 660 Baker. There is a body center right next door with some good looking girls. Has anyone been there? Is it any good? Which girl should I see and what do they do? Sure a lot of questions but someone has had to have been there. Walked in by accident and saw 3 girls I would bite behind the desk.
A warning to the city of Los Alamitos ...
Can you say harassment?
The job of the police is to "protect and serve".
Q: Has Vick's ever telephoned the Los Al PD and requested the PD's protective services for any customer/visitor problem?
Q: Does Vick's welcome your PD presence at their site?
Q: Does any other business in Los Al get this special treatment?
Q: Is Vick's the logical choice to be the first business to get this special protection ... or would a bank with an ATM be more deserving of this watchful eye? Or maybe a liquor establishment with a history of trouble?
Q: Why the need to have a black & white patrol car directly in front of Vick's front door? Couldn't an unmarked car serve the same purpose, perhaps at a less intimidating location a couple doors down from Vick's?
Q: Would some potential customers feel that the Los Al PD might "tail" their car as is exits the strip center and get a ticket for an unusual infraction?
Note: From personal experience when patronizing a MP in Bell Gardens I can tell you a MP will NEVER call the police when dealing with a problem customer. The MP will bring all the girls into the room and beg the drunken/disorderly patron to please get dress and leave. If that fails, a private security person is availed to help get the disorderly customer to leave.
It's sorta like a hotel. They will never pull the alarm and bring the fire department to their place. That would require every hotel guest to orderly exit the building. Very bad for repeat business. And follow up fire safety inspections are sure to ensue that will prove costly to get the hotel up to code.
Likewise, a bar will not call the cops until all hell breaks loose. It usually requires someone pulling a weapon.
In short, Vick's has never contacted anybody in Los Al civic administration to help them out. Be assured of that.
Vick's attorney, gotta believe that he's telling Vick's to let the Los Al PD stay as long as they want. It will only make the retaliatory lawsuit for aggregious behavior all the bigger in seeking both actual and punitive (treble amount) damages.
Surely the Vick's attorney will remind Los Al that they have no convictions on file against Vick's and the justification for such outrageous behavior is just mere speculation.
All the therapists have met all the licensing training requirements the city insists on. All employees have a legal right to work. None of the ladies have a misdemeanor or felony conviction in their personal lives.
This is why attorneys have such a devilish reputation.
Lawsuits like the one to shortly follow. It's like the attorney has a license to steal. The attorney can make up just about any dollar amount of loss business revenue and probably justify it.
Surprisingly, usually cities (like Santa Ana) contact the landlord, inform them of the mischeivious tenant the landlord has, and if the lease is month-to-month all that is needed is a 30 day notice to vacate (without any reason given). Very effective and no legal confrontation between MP and city.
Maybe Vick's has some arrangement with the landlord (another Korean? ) or a long-term lease with right to renew and the city of Los Al is powerless to go that route.
You may recall I mentioned in a previous post the Mitchell Bros porn movie theatre vis-a-vis the city of Santa Ana. The Mitchell Bros won a huge retaliatory suit.
Seems the same is shaping up in Los Al.
Stay tune. Should be interesting.
Herb Surfs
06-04-06, 16:00
Jesus with all this talk about LE monitoring the forum, I'm afraid to go to an MP because I think Chris Lewis from Dateline NBC will pop into the room when I'm face down and ask "how do you like your massage, hard or soft"?
Was by Vick today and can still see that the police cruiser parked right at it front door from Katella Blvd angle. LAPD is aimed to intimidate peaceful carnal seeking citizens.
Member #3942
06-04-06, 23:27
Ok answer me this Batman: How is it that a girl with lick your ass but wont lick your dick?
On a side note, I was in the valley and had this cute little girl with tiny little tits that were just a pleasure to nibble on. I was going to visit a place in the papper that said Annie good massage, but there was too much traffic.
Point well taken at the ads in OCR or any other newspaper. LE are not idiots and know the worlds old profession happens at some MPs. There is the other side to this with the net and forums. Details on donations and extras should be done with discretion if the low likelihood LE uses some our posts as evidence.
Is that place on Garry the only MP that provides latinas? I been there when it was an AMP and nuthin more than a rub and a tug joint, but a little pricey
I've also been the the place on Fair Dr., CM, but it's been raided so often that nuthin is happening, or at least not recently.
Any of you guys find any latina or white action out there?
And don't steer me to Tara in Irvine. Been down that old tired road.
Its the same old Annie as before. Still has that crazy look. She had gone to Florida but now she's back and taking only old customers. Stopped by the other day. Same AA meeting hall next door.
Ok answer me this Batman: How is it that a girl with lick your ass but wont lick your dick?
On a side note, I was in the valley and had this cute little girl with tiny little tits that were just a pleasure to nibble on. I was going to visit a place in the papper that said Annie good massage, but there was too much traffic.
Member #3942
06-06-06, 09:45
[QUOTE=Mphound
I've also been the the place on Fair Dr., CM, but it's been raided so often that nuthin is happening, or at least not recently.
Any of you guys find any latina or white action out there?
And don't steer me to Tara in Irvine. Been down that old tired road.[/QUOTE]
Theres a place on 17th and broadway. Never seen the latina there but I know there is one.
Garrey youre right about, too pricey and for not much action. There's slim pickings for Latinas in OC amps. If I know of a hot one I would be there right now.
Lurking Fan
06-07-06, 01:42
Theres a place on 17th and broadway. Never seen the latina there but I know there is one.
I doubt it's the same latina as last summer since they move around frequently. But if is then she isn't worth it.
Saw Cash Value's report of young HJ provider (Lily) at this MP almost directly across from Orange Mall in 3 store strip center and decided to check it out.
Asian ladies (all Chinese?) indeed are young and attractive (good sign) and the place smelled all perfume-y (good sign, I think). My non-provider's name was Monica, young Chinese lady in USA 4 years (pretty good English).
Despite all my encouragement Monica mostly stayed out of arm's reach and oiled up the backside without ever teasing/touching the boys (I ooh-ed enough to give her the A-OK signal to proceed to the land of the nuggets).
Half-hour finished without a flip. Monica mentioned, when I motioned for a HJ, we don't do that here ... only professional massage.
When this lady asked for a little "teep" I told her "No!" and left ... disappointed.
Cash Value had a different lady so maybe the joint's rating should be ... YMMV.
After TOFTT at another legit MP in OC ... went to see Garry #116 which I had been to before and had a pleasurable time. It was a few minutes after 7PM on a weekday evening and the place was closed. Bummer, what is a horny guy to do?
So I did the next best thing (literally). Gee, suite #115, called The Wellness Center, looks like it may have promise.
Paula, wearing blue hospital surgery gear, was the only provider left just before closing. Paula is latina, mid-20's young, quite attractive face and a well built body that even baggy medical gear can't disguise.
The massage started very good, albeit in a legit sorta way. Meaning I got a good hard rub the way a pro massuese would give to an athlete. The questions were very professional ... like "do you ache here?".
Paula finally asked if I was looking for something else (I was rubbing first her leg, then her ass, and finally rubbing her crotch). Brilliant question on her part. I answered in the affirmative.
Just as others have described elsewhere, the questions about "how much?" and pay in advance and please take the drippy paper towel with you request.
A bit pricey but I got a complete rub down.
If you go there Paula tries to keep these extras on the QT hush. Therefore I recommend going just before closing (around 7PM). The other girl that left as I walked in was showing some serious cleavage so, who knows, maybe its just part of a hustle (all female providers doing it?).
So for you classy mongers looking for a latina provider, with some reservations, there is your lead.
Please use some discretion when pursuing your business.
Beer Guzzler
06-08-06, 02:09
After TOFTT at another legit MP in OC ... went to see Garry #116 which I had been to before and had a pleasurable time. It was a few minutes after 7PM on a weekday evening and the place was closed. Bummer, what is a horny guy to do?
So I did the next best thing (literally). Gee, suite #115, called The Wellness Center, looks like it may have promise.
Paula, wearing blue hospital surgery gear, was the only provider left just before closing. Paula is latina, mid-20's young, quite attractive face and a well built body that even baggy medical gear can't disguise.
The massage started very good, albeit in a legit sorta way. Meaning I got a good hard rub the way a pro massuese would give to an athlete. The questions were very professional ... like "do you ache here?".
Paula finally asked if I was looking for something else (I was rubbing first her leg, then her ass, and finally rubbing her crotch). Brilliant question on her part. I answered in the affirmative.
Just as others have described elsewhere, the questions about "how much?" and pay in advance and please take the drippy paper towel with you request.
A bit pricey but I got a complete rub down.
If you go there Paula tries to keep these extras on the QT hush. Therefore I recommend going just before closing (around 7PM). The other girl that left as I walked in was showing some serious cleavage so, who knows, maybe its just part of a hustle (all female providers doing it?).
So for you classy mongers looking for a latina provider, with some reservations, there is your lead.
Please use some discretion when pursuing your business.
This is exactly what I was looking for! I was there last week and had Linda. I will look for Paula next time. Longrod, can you PM me details about your session (i.e., what was on the menu)?
Thanks,
Beer Guzzler
PM only.
Irvine and south of it.
Been out of the scene for a while obviously it seems now.
Hit PCH Accupressure for a plain massage, from Channel.
Not even a good massage. That is one hell of a depressing
event in a monger's life.
Looking to get back "in" now that time has freed up and have
the cash value. :-)
ROMAN
Marvelous88
06-08-06, 23:00
Depressing. Yes, but why so many?
PM only.
Irvine and south of it.
Been out of the scene for a while obviously it seems now.
Hit PCH Accupressure for a plain massage, from Channel.
Not even a good massage. That is one hell of a depressing
event in a monger's life.
Looking to get back "in" now that time has freed up and have
the cash value. :-)
ROMAN
Member #3942
06-08-06, 23:29
First went to the new place on Mcdurmott. Its the one with a shower and 50 for an hour. Theres another one in the next building 50 for a half hour. Anyway the girls name was lisa, nice long hair tight body. Dont bother if youre 300 pounds cause you wont fit in the tiny shower. She gave an average massage but I easily got a handy. I even got her pants unbuttoned. They just popped open. Got them down around her feet. Was able to do what I wanted. Think more might be possible but not sure. Has a peek hole in the door but she covers it with some tape. overall not bad for Irvine. Hard to find in south county anything good. Need a good massage with extras. Yeah I could go to OK but I want a massage too. I heard of some place that the girl gave a good ass ream with a BJ, that sounds good but forgot which place.
Anyone been with Joy at LF body center besides me? Would like to hear what others have done.
Went to this place across from the orange mall. I will remember the adress and edit later, since I am really buzzed right now. Anyway all the girls are really young, lke 18-20. I had Lilly and she is one hot little babe. Great body and good looking. She gave the most erotic massage. Reached under, around over and ran her hands everywhere. Anyone else been therE?
Brookhurst and Chapman.
Its next to the longs or rite aide. Its a 2-story Med building. The place is upstairs. 55 for an hour, no shower.Can you PM me with the address and name for this place? or if you know of any other places with good massage and hj, that would be great. Thanks.
Can you PM me with the address and name for this place? or if you know of any other places with good massage and hj, that would be great. Thanks.
Check OC register, classifieds section, adult services. There are 3 places on Anaheim BLVD which will provice you the services you seek.
BTW, what ever you do, do not go to the places in brea, Eden in Costa Mesa, or Happy Day Spa in Midway City. Its extremely unlikely to get anything more than just a massage in these places. They are considered the Bait and Switch establishments.
First went to the new place on Mcdurmott. Its the one with a shower and 50 for an hour. Theres another one in the next building 50 for a half hour. Anyway the girls name was lisa, nice long hair tight body. Dont bother if youre 300 pounds cause you wont fit in the tiny shower. She gave an average massage but I easily got a handy. I even got her pants unbuttoned. They just popped open. Got them down around her feet. Was able to do what I wanted. Think more might be possible but not sure. Has a peek hole in the door but she covers it with some tape. overall not bad for Irvine. Hard to find in south county anything good. Need a good massage with extras. Yeah I could go to OK but I want a massage too. I heard of some place that the girl gave a good ass ream with a BJ, that sounds good but forgot which place.
Cash Value...
I'm not sure which AMP you mean. I have gone at least a half-dozen times to the one nearest Main Street. Mickey is the mamasan and I have gotten just about everything I want.
Member #3942
06-09-06, 21:26
Cash Value...
I'm not sure which AMP you mean. I have gone at least a half-dozen times to the one nearest Main Street. Mickey is the mamasan and I have gotten just about everything I want.
Its the building just west of that one. Theres an ad in the sports page for it. I didnt go to yours since its 50 for 30 min plus no shower.
Sue from OK called me a few times over the last 6 months
and I have her phone numbers but won't give them out.
I think she enjoyed a particuarly active session late last
year. I haven't called Sue to take her up on anything
though I did think she was a 9 on a 10 scale of provider
attitude and energy.
I remember the good old days before Ronald Reagan
and the Bushies when most of the girls I saw were like
Sue.
Those were the days before these GOP dolts started trying
to change civilization's morals. What a joke. I'll be voting
anti-incumbant until Dubya is long gone.
ROMAN
Those were the days before these GOP dolts started trying
to change civilization's morals. What a joke. I'll be voting
anti-incumbant until Dubya is long gone.
ROMAN
No incumbents? Then you'll be voting Republican since California politics have been dominated by the Democrats for the past two decades.
Any protest votes should go to the Libertarians who understand personal freedom.
One Wing Low
06-10-06, 13:15
...and the MP near it are just HJ factories.
The girl was a tall, young, beautiful blonde. She gave me her mobile number. I could never meet her for a fuck.
Anyone needing a nice place with beautiful 'technicicans' in the area PM me. Of course your credentials will be carefully checked before exchanging any info.
Check OC register, classifieds section, adult services. There are 3 places on Anaheim BLVD which will provice you the services you seek.
BTW, what ever you do, do not go to the places in brea, Eden in Costa Mesa, or Happy Day Spa in Midway City. Its extremely unlikely to get anything more than just a massage in these places. They are considered the Bait and Switch establishments.
No incumbents? Then you'll be voting Republican since California politics have been dominated by the Democrats for the past two decades.
Any protest votes should go to the Libertarians who understand personal freedom.
I've heard this argument before but won't go with it. I am interested
in neither party. I am interested in the direction of the political pendulum
and its speed and I typically vote to keep it toward the center at a slow
speed.
Now that we opened a little political debate. In Ca. the dems have gone to the point of socialism. I agree that the Libertarians would be the way to go. Having said that. Their party can't win so the next best thing is to vote republican. I value my hard earned money and feel that a political party isn't suppose to tax me dry and give it to the under achieving poor. I don't believe in a one world government, yet the democrats embrace the idea. If you don't believe me, look at who wants the open border policy. People better wake up before it's too late. We are going down that two class society trail. The wealthy have their money parked in overseas banks and investments and won't be taxed like ours will. Whats that old saying? "Be careful for what you wish for."
Member #3942
06-11-06, 10:51
Stopped at some tiny place near downtown since I was in the area. Not worth talking about since it was dirty, kinda fugly girl. only reason i bring it up is because she did this thing where she stood at my head and ran her hands down my back to my ass, Lots og good ass rubbing from standing at my haed. her hands went up and down my back to my ass and then between my thighs and up and down my crack. Felt good her body on my while she did lots of rubbing from that position. Too bad nothing in OC is like that. Didnt want extras cause I didnt want any nightmares. Oh and she did this thing where she ran her finger around my a-hole. Guess theres nothing down here that likes to play with your crack. Going to San Diego for 2 days so maybe I will try something there. Maybe not since I will be at the casino.
Is this place shut down or under survellience? TIA
habanero14
06-12-06, 00:52
Ran into Linda in the parking lot out back. Looked like she had shaved almost all her hair off. Although she recognized me, she was very nervous and told me they are closed. City attorney and PD came in an interviewed the staff there for 2 hours. Evidently nothing found. They now must leave both the front and back doors unlocked, so why it looks like they are open, but other than her, she says nobody is there.
Is this place shut down or under survellience? TIA
Not sure. The LosAl PD has been kind enough to leave one of their cruisers behind, and in fact trading it out from time to time with a freshly washed cruiser.
Now, found this on another board. Could this be the person who caused trouble for Vicks?
_____________
Posted by ParkAsian , 6/10/2006 11:34:51 AM
I am working on all the text messages of the individual that broke into my home, almost killed my pets, slashed my tires and tried to turn a good thing upside down. The same person has done it to many other agencies in hopes of extorting money out of them. PA is the only thus far that has stood up to this non-sense bullshit.
He states in one text message, "I make a living fucking over agencies"
stay tuned....
Now that we opened a little political debate. In Ca. the dems have gone to the point of socialism. I agree that the Libertarians would be the way to go. Having said that. Their party can't win so the next best thing is to vote republican. I value my hard earned money and feel that a political party isn't suppose to tax me dry and give it to the under achieving poor. I don't believe in a one world government, yet the democrats embrace the idea. If you don't believe me, look at who wants the open border policy. People better wake up before it's too late. We are going down that two class society trail. The wealthy have their money parked in overseas banks and investments and won't be taxed like ours will. Whats that old saying? "Be careful for what you wish for."
I strongly urge any and all who have an interest in this area in going to
www.dailyreckoning.com. It is the discussion forum par excellance of
economic, fiscal, and financial matters.
ROMAN
Member #2157
06-12-06, 09:45
Is this place shut down or under survellience?
TIARedirecting to AAMP.
One Wing Low
06-12-06, 12:05
My relatives, who work for Social Services agencies in Los Angeles, say the city and county keep coming up with endless sources of fund to pay for welfare, rent, hospital bills, school, food stamps...for illegal aliens. These illegals even put social workers through hell to get their money.
The bureaucrats keep building their large empires so they keep providing services for illegal immigrants.
You are right that the democrats have been screwing all of us and destroying our future. As the weakling Democrats pissed away our country during the 60's and 70's, it was Ronald Reagan who restored the strength, will, pride, honesty and integrity for America.
I loved it when Ronald Reagan fired the Air Traffic Controller assholes, who were acting up, striking despite the law prohibiting strikes for ATC, demanding high wages for hanging around drinking coffee at their radar scopes, or boinking the ugly cleaning women in their restrooms. They deserved it. I still hate those stupid, nasty sons of bitches. It was a very tough time and Ronald Reagan had the courage to do it.
Now the unionized blue-collar workers in America are conceding the absurdly high wages and stupid work rules or risk losing their jobs to workers in the third world.
Fuck the retarded, greedy union assholes.
Now that we opened a little political debate. In Ca. the dems have gone to the point of socialism. I agree that the Libertarians would be the way to go. Having said that. Their party can't win so the next best thing is to vote republican. I value my hard earned money and feel that a political party isn't suppose to tax me dry and give it to the under achieving poor. I don't believe in a one world government, yet the democrats embrace the idea. If you don't believe me, look at who wants the open border policy. People better wake up before it's too late. We are going down that two class society trail. The wealthy have their money parked in overseas banks and investments and won't be taxed like ours will. Whats that old saying? "Be careful for what you wish for."
16040 Harbor, FV
$50 for 1/2 hour, $70 for an hour
Korean operated- no private rooms, all rooms have a half-length swinging door allowing for no private conversation.
No extras - not even a tease. (Just to make sure I even placed her hand on my cock.) The massage was fair but not outstanding.
Won't be back.
Not sure. The LosAl PD has been kind enough to leave one of their cruisers behind, and in fact trading it out from time to time with a freshly washed cruiser.
Now, found this on another board. Could this be the person who caused trouble for Vicks?
_____________
Posted by ParkAsian , 6/10/2006 11:34:51 AM
I am working on all the text messages of the individual that broke into my home, almost killed my pets, slashed my tires and tried to turn a good thing upside down. The same person has done it to many other agencies in hopes of extorting money out of them. PA is the only thus far that has stood up to this non-sense bullshit.
He states in one text message, "I make a living fucking over agencies"
stay tuned....
Vicks is closed, other than for real accupuncture... They might relocate, you'd have to ask Linda, but for now they are gone.
Joe Monger
06-13-06, 03:15
Vicks is closed, other than for real accupuncture... They might relocate, you'd have to ask Linda, but for now they are gone.
Nice job everyone.
Went to DJ on Stone Ridge and Moulton. Don't waste your time! They advertise table shower and they do give it but they are old chinese and no extras are offered, not even with some ecouragement and helping with the hand placement. Total waste of time. Rooms have heavy curtains and they are located in a little strip mall between a rent a car and a dentist"s office. Women are so old and fugly that it's not worth the time to commit to a couple of visits and see if they give better service.
Another place off of El Toro shows promise but will require some work. All in all, it was a crazy day.
Note: Any newbies/pd trying to get info, don't waste your time. I am starting to hate posting because of all the PM's I get from people with no history on the site.
Member #2157
06-13-06, 10:01
Nice job everyone.There's still life
I called Friday, got another # to call.
I called it and got directions to their apartment they're now using, but got stuck on a work call and couldn't make it.
One Wing Low
06-13-06, 10:38
Los Alamitos PD officers assigned to investigate Vic's all died of massive heart attacks upon seeing the severe lack of beauty and over-abundance of obesity in the staff.
That explains the cruisers that were left in front of Vic's.
Los Alamitos will have to issue a new bond to pay for towing charges of cruisers and funeral expenses of all its PD investigators.
Not sure. The LosAl PD has been kind enough to leave one of their cruisers behind, and in fact trading it out from time to time with a freshly washed cruiser.
Vicks is closed, other than for real accupuncture... They might relocate, you'd have to ask Linda, but for now they are gone.
IF you do find any information... Please use PM!
Beer Guzzler
06-15-06, 22:55
There hasn't been much action on this board lately, so I'm assuming Harbor is also dead. I've been tempted to take a drive during lunch, but I remember my last time out there (2 weeks ago) and there was nothing to be found. I even drove out to Beach and Ball and it was just completely dead.
I know that South Harbor had been picking up lately, has anyone found a gem? Did I tell you guys that I spotted Liz out on Harbor about a month ago? However, she was with her kids so I couldn't approach her. Anyone been fortunate enough to catch her on her way to work and get her number? God I miss those awesome bbbjtcimws!
Lastly, I'm still on my quest to find an LMP. Unfortunately the last couple of places I've visited have advertised Latinas and all I found was Asians. Not there is anything wrong with Asians, but I felt like slapping my chorizo on some Latina ass.
A shoutout to all the Senior Members and also Regulars who have shared info with me in the past. Hope we all have a great summer. PM me whenever you want.
Beer Guzzler
Member #3942
06-16-06, 09:29
Those Latina places DO have latinas. Have to ask for them. The few I have seen look ok but nothing special in the massage and extras so it was just a cute latina rubbing her hands on me while i enjoyed.
I have been on a quest to find a decent AMP that gives a great BJ.
Still see some places I havnt been yet cause they are new. Ill get around to them sooner or later. Just anyone let me know about something new that sucks!!!
Stopped by here on the way home last week. Found the place in the OC Reg classified ads. Their number in the ad ends in 0665.
Upstairs in office section near Ace Hardware and B of A. Paid $40 for 1/2 hour. Did not ask for a shower (either table or self). Room open at top and the place looked like a very legit place, didn't know what to expect.
K Girl in her mid 30's came in and what I got was a fantastic massage. After 5 minutes, I told her I wanted an hour (for $50), but she told me she had another appointment and could only do the 1/2.
Very good massage w/ the walk on the back trick. Not alot of teasing, but a brush of this and of that. Upon the flip, she indicated she was done - I pointed and moved the towel, but she told me they don't do that there. She suggested I do myself, I got her to lift her top, and it was self-serve. Tipped $30 and left...it was ok. The massage was excellent and she was cute. I'll go back and try again.
Those Latina places DO have latinas. Have to ask for them. The few I have seen look ok but nothing special in the massage and extras so it was just a cute latina rubbing her hands on me while i enjoyed.
I have been on a quest to find a decent AMP that gives a great BJ.
Still see some places I havnt been yet cause they are new. Ill get around to them sooner or later. Just anyone let me know about something new that sucks!!!
Cash, I've gone to ok and got a pure bj from the girls. While none of them
was a GFE, it is, at least, relief. That said, it's been a long time since I went
as I get depressed with the lack of emotional content.
ROMAN
One Wing Low,
I would suggest something for you to consider, if only for a minute or two. Many of the gals working in AMP's are illegals of one stripe or another. Send them back home if you desire, but then you'll be pounding your own pud, choking your own chicken.
Lex
Member #3942
06-17-06, 11:10
Yeah Roman I know what youre talking about. Need something good from a girl that is into it. Dont like robots!!!
Jonathan1301
06-17-06, 19:34
...and the MP near it are just HJ factories.
The girl was a tall, young, beautiful blonde. She gave me her mobile number. I could never meet her for a fuck.
Anyone needing a nice place with beautiful 'technicicans' in the area PM me. Of course your credentials will be carefully checked before exchanging any info.That place scared the hell out of me, looks like a bordel with that TV on and the cosy couches where ppl are waiting for the massages but if you notice there are one camera in one corner that looks dead, and another one hidden on the other corner why do you need those?
LAME massage, no extras.
Jonathan1301
06-17-06, 19:55
Stopped by here on the way home last week. Found the place in the OC Reg classified ads. Their number in the ad ends in 0665.
Upstairs in office section near Ace Hardware and B of A. Paid $40 for 1/2 hour. Did not ask for a shower (either table or self). Room open at top and the place looked like a very legit place, didn't know what to expect.
K Girl in her mid 30's came in and what I got was a fantastic massage. After 5 minutes, I told her I wanted an hour (for $50), but she told me she had another appointment and could only do the 1/2.
Very good massage w/ the walk on the back trick. Not alot of teasing, but a brush of this and of that. Upon the flip, she indicated she was done - I pointed and moved the towel, but she told me they don't do that there. She suggested I do myself, I got her to lift her top, and it was self-serve. Tipped $30 and left...it was ok. The massage was excellent and she was cute. I'll go back and try again.Been there, didn't know it was a do it yourself place, i got nothing :(
Massage was ok for my taste, and the girl gets a 7 or 8 out of 10 depnding on
your taste.
I was told there are two girls there so I guess you got the other one :)
Perusing the Orange County Register Adult Section. Always looking for a grand opening that might be grand! . Noticed that an old location with a notoriously great reputation. 1966 Chapman, Suite J in the city of Fullerton. Has re-surfaced.
Probably re-rented to a new operator. The old tenant was infamous for being one of the selcet few where FS was on the menu.
The city of Fullerton politicians seem to be dedicated to eliminating anything fun that cost money (save watching a CSUniversity/Fullerton baseball game) so I'm not optimistic that this establishment in any way resembles the old tenant at this location.
Could somebody be a good scout and check this out (do I have to do everything around here?)?
Thanks in advance. And looking forward to an informative report.
Beer Guzzler
06-19-06, 17:26
What's up guys? Felt like giving the chorizo some Latina action on Friday and went to the Garry place searching for Paula. I called and Linda told me she was there. However, it turns out she was never there. Linda tried to get me to go in with her, but I passed having previously sampled her.
I went to the Latina's place advertised in OCR on Skypark. I don't know what's going on in this place, but apparently it is being fronted by a real doctor. 1st visit, happy ending (hj) by Asian lady. This 2nd visit I was once again led into the room by the doctor who asked basic questions about health.
After he left I undressed and waiting on the table, and in comes a huge Latina (thick, big-bonned, call it whatever you want but she was fat). I played it cool and she proceeded with a decent massage. I was like, what the heck, I already paid my money, might as well get something out of it. And this slumpbuster gave me a decent hj. Left .4 as tip. Her name was Maria. Whatever you do, do not see her, she is horny and fat (very dangerous).
She told me that this place was open 7 days a week, and her days off are Saturday and Monday (best times to go). I don't know if they have any cute Latinas but so far have not had luck. I should've just went to OK.
I plan on cruising Harbor later on, perhaps I could find something better.
Beer Guzzler
One Wing Low
06-19-06, 19:19
With numerous reports on girls and women in poor countries either sold or kidnapped, beaten, abused and forced into prostitution against their will, this movie is chilling.
I don't think anybody had to do any persuasion for the porkers to engage in prostitution. Some of those girls could not even get sex even if they hang their pussies out for free over freeways...
Maybe I’m being native but I don’t see this as a major problem in OC. There was one place mentioned a couple of months ago that referred to all the girls arriving at a AMP in a van. This would make me wonder.
But if the girl speaks reasonable English and speaks of her outside activities I feel pretty comfortable.
Many years ago I had a Korean girl in Japan that, in hindsight, I think may have been trafficked. From what I understand, it’s a common practice in Japan. (The Japanese don’t like foreigners screwing Japanese girls so they supply other Asians.) It’s bothered me some since.
I don't know about the latina place in Skypark, but OK is still the best place around. Until sometime better comes along, I'll be getting stress relieved by June and her rotating inventory of young K-girls.
Beer Guzzler
06-20-06, 14:43
I haven't been to OK in a while, last time I was there I saw Shannon or Sharon maybe 4 or 5 months ago. Who is the best looking K-girl in there right now?
Thanks,
Beer Guzzler
I don't know about the latina place in Skypark, but OK is still the best place around. Until sometime better comes along, I'll be getting stress relieved by June and her rotating inventory of young K-girls.
I haven't been to OK in a while, last time I was there I saw Shannon or Sharon maybe 4 or 5 months ago. Who is the best looking K-girl in there right now?
Thanks,
Beer Guzzler
Hmm, I haven't met them all, Rose is nice looking, can't recall what days she works. Bobbi, who works on at least Saturdays, is nice looking, good body, actually has kind of an exotic look about her.
Not too sure about the others.
Marvelous88
06-21-06, 23:34
I don't know about the latina place in Skypark, but OK is still the best place around. Until sometime better comes along, I'll be getting stress relieved by June and her rotating inventory of young K-girls.Interesting. My first trip to OK several months back, June was my provider. I guess OK was busy that day. I didn't realize until much later i was doing mamsan.
She greeted me at the door and took me to my room. To my suprise she came back in. Her service did the job but she was a bit rushed - obviously she had a business to run, although I didn't know that at the time.
All the same this brings back a good memory and think I'll head up there soon.
Marvelous
Went there this morning around 10:30 and was serviced nicely by a Korean named Young, or Yung. She was very pretty and sexy and did an excellent massage with a happy (hj) ending.
One Wing Low
06-24-06, 04:05
If you find any, call up your local friendly Police Department or the FBI to report probable human trafficking. If no action is taken, report it to the old perverts in your local city councils, especially the old menopausal women.
The girls, if found to be trafficked, are by law entitled to permanent residency status immediately.
Maybe I’m being native but I don’t see this as a major problem in OC. There was one place mentioned a couple of months ago that referred to all the girls arriving at a AMP in a van. This would make me wonder.
But if the girl speaks reasonable English and speaks of her outside activities I feel pretty comfortable.
Many years ago I had a Korean girl in Japan that, in hindsight, I think may have been trafficked. From what I understand, it’s a common practice in Japan. (The Japanese don’t like foreigners screwing Japanese girls so they supply other Asians.) It’s bothered me some since.
Pimp Hound
06-24-06, 05:02
I don't know about the latina place in Skypark, but OK is still the best place around. Until sometime better comes along, I'll be getting stress relieved by June and her rotating inventory of young K-girls.Hey MP,
Where is this ok located? Is it kamp or just amp? Who are the hot girls is the house?
P Hound
It's near John Wayne Airport. Detailed directions were given here in the past couple of months.
If you find any, call up your local friendly Police Department or the FBI to report probable human trafficking. If no action is taken, report it to the old perverts in your local city councils, especially the old menopausal women.
The girls, if found to be trafficked, are by law entitled to permanent residency status immediately.
This is a troubling point, how does one determine whether a girl is trafficked?
I don't want to in any way participate in the misery of some other girl. If she were some how inslaved, I would really want to do nothing more than help that person.
Just because the girls get dropped off via the "Korean Taxi" system, that alone doesn't really mean that the girls are not free. I like to be the first customer in, so that I can get the best service possible and have a girl that isn't too burned out, so from time to time I get there early enough to see them getting dropped off from a minivan or two. I believe the minivan thing is totally common. Why, I'm not sure. Maybe the girls choose to not drive, can't drive, or its just easier to have someone drop them off.
I've spoken with some of the girls, nothing in too detail, I just find it hard to believe that they are trafficked/enslaved. Smuggled, maybe. That would be a totally different issue. Some of the girls can converse quite nicely, others just don't have enough grasp of the english language to actually carry on a conversation easily. The ones that speak english well, I just don't get any sort of hint that there is anything going on.
So, try to be as certain as possible if any of you report some kind of trafficking. Naturally, if the more than one girl show some kind of abuse, bruising etc, then one would be obligated to report this abuse.
Rockett Man
06-24-06, 22:19
No offense one wing - but you'll have to show me on the INS site where they would be permitted "by law" to permanent residency status... That is simply NOT true. One wing, I like your posts but... This isn't right info.
Respectfully,
RM
If you find any, call up your local friendly Police Department or the FBI to report probable human trafficking. If no action is taken, report it to the old perverts in your local city councils, especially the old menopausal women.
The girls, if found to be trafficked, are by law entitled to permanent residency status immediately.
One Wing Low
06-25-06, 03:43
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/trafficking/about/TVPA_2000.html
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS PROTECTION ACT OF 2000
In October 2000, the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 (TVPA) (Public Law 106-386) was enacted. Prior to that, no comprehensive Federal law existed to protect victims of trafficking or to prosecute their traffickers.
Human trafficking is increasingly committed by organized, sophisticated criminal groups, and is the fastest growing source of profits for organized criminal enterprises worldwide. Profits from the trafficking industry contribute to the expansion of organized crime in the U.S. and worldwide.
TVPA Goals
Prevent human trafficking overseas
Protect victims and help them rebuild their lives in the U.S. with Federal and state support
Prosecute traffickers of persons under stiff Federal penalties
Prevention, Protection and Prosecution
The law is comprehensive in addressing the various ways of combating trafficking, including prevention, protection and prosecution. The prevention measures include the authorization of educational and public awareness programs.
Protection and assistance for victims of trafficking under the law include making housing, educational, health care, job training and other Federally-funded social service programs available to assist victims in rebuilding their lives. The law also established the T visa, which allows victims of trafficking to become temporary residents of the U.S. The TVPA authorizes up to 5,000 victims of trafficking each year to receive permanent residence status after three years from issuance of their temporary residency visas. The T visa signifies a shift in the immigration law policy, which previously resulted in many victims being deported as illegal aliens. The law also makes victims of trafficking eligible for the Witness Protection Program.
No offense one wing - but you'll have to show me on the INS site where they would be permitted "by law" to permanent residency status... That is simply NOT true. One wing, I like your posts but... This isn't right info.
Respectfully,
RM
Rockett Man
06-25-06, 13:34
Thank you for the info one wing, and my apologies to you. You have educated me.
Cheers,
RM
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/trafficking/about/TVPA_2000.html
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS PROTECTION ACT OF 2000
In October 2000, the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 (TVPA) (Public Law 106-386) was enacted. Prior to that, no comprehensive Federal law existed to protect victims of trafficking or to prosecute their traffickers.
Human trafficking is increasingly committed by organized, sophisticated criminal groups, and is the fastest growing source of profits for organized criminal enterprises worldwide. Profits from the trafficking industry contribute to the expansion of organized crime in the U.S. and worldwide.
TVPA Goals
Prevent human trafficking overseas
Protect victims and help them rebuild their lives in the U.S. with Federal and state support
Prosecute traffickers of persons under stiff Federal penalties
Prevention, Protection and Prosecution
The law is comprehensive in addressing the various ways of combating trafficking, including prevention, protection and prosecution. The prevention measures include the authorization of educational and public awareness programs.
Protection and assistance for victims of trafficking under the law include making housing, educational, health care, job training and other Federally-funded social service programs available to assist victims in rebuilding their lives. The law also established the T visa, which allows victims of trafficking to become temporary residents of the U.S. The TVPA authorizes up to 5,000 victims of trafficking each year to receive permanent residence status after three years from issuance of their temporary residency visas. The T visa signifies a shift in the immigration law policy, which previously resulted in many victims being deported as illegal aliens. The law also makes victims of trafficking eligible for the Witness Protection Program.
One Wing Low
06-25-06, 14:03
Hi Rockett
So no apology is necessary.
I just thought everyone is already aware of this change in immigration law. These victims of human trafficking truly deserve our help.
Justice Department has been hearing cases and make determinations on case-by case basis. Their aim is to keep the victims in the US long enough to successfully prosecute the traffickers.
I've heard cases that dragged out for over 3 years in federal courts because the pimps and traffickers are loaded with illicit money and can afford to hire hordes of attorneys to fight the prosecution every step along the way.
Attorneys are like hookers in the sense that they take the money then they fuck their clients. Mongers and criminals however need their services. Justice and sex in the US sex prison can be very expensive...
Thank you for the info one wing, and my apologies to you. You have educated me.
Cheers,
RM
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/trafficking/about/TVPA_2000.html
I just wanted to add, nice find. I actually spent a bit of time looking for this via google. I came up with nothing, just must have been my search terms.
If I recall correctly, I saw some kind of news/TV magazine show on prostitution and how some of the women were sold into prostitution. The lady was offered some kind of residency status once she was discovered.
Hi Rockett
So no apology is necessary.
I just thought everyone is already aware of this change in immigration law. These victims of human trafficking truly deserve our help.
Justice Department has been hearing cases and make determinations on case-by case basis. Their aim is to keep the victims in the US long enough to successfully prosecute the traffickers.
I've heard cases that dragged out for over 3 years in federal courts because the pimps and traffickers are loaded with illicit money and can afford to hire hordes of attorneys to fight the prosecution every step along the way.
Attorneys are like hookers in the sense that they take the money then they fuck their clients. Mongers and criminals however need their services. Justice and sex in the US sex prison can be very expensive...
One of the problems with trying to stop sex slavery is the fact that since prostitution is illegal, everything is already underground.
If prostitution was legalized, business would be done more openly, making it much easier to stop the sex-slave trade. Many organizations dedicated to helping women leave prostitution actully support this philosophy... In fact, that is where I got the idea!
Anyone heard the story about if you turn your empty coffee cup upside down it is a signal that you are in the market for more than coffee?
Anyone heard the story about if you turn your empty coffee cup upside down it is a signal that you are in the market for more than coffee?Can you give me more info on the coffee cup story and how it works?
Any info would be great.
Thanks
Anyone heard the story about if you turn your empty coffee cup upside down it is a signal that you are in the market for more than coffee?
I never heard that... but it won't hurt to try!!!
Anyone heard the story about if you turn your empty coffee cup upside down it is a signal that you are in the market for more than coffee?
I just Googled the phrase: "vietnamese coffee cup upside down" and came up with some articles saying that they will use the coffee grounds to tell your fortune... I would like to see it say:
"You will enjoy some nooky today"
One Wing Low
06-27-06, 07:38
and ask the girls to suck on it.
That may work better.
Anyone heard the story about if you turn your empty coffee cup upside down it is a signal that you are in the market for more than coffee?
Anyone heard the story about if you turn your empty coffee cup upside down it is a signal that you are in the market for more than coffee?Yup. I've heard of that legend. Nothing is really to be had at these places. there are many rumors that were more prevalent a few years back. I've personally known 2 girls that worked at those places and they've told me some interesting stories about what goes behind the scenes. PM to share info.
amphunter2002
06-27-06, 13:36
I visited OK yesterday and had the good furtune of having Lucy give me a massage. She is Thai and very pleasant. I would have to give her a 7-8 on looks and solid 8 on her massage "Thai" technique. She works Monday's and Tuesday's. The only strange thing is she had bandaids covering some parts. She said other customers were to rough, while making a hand gesture like she was opening a twist top bottle, use your imagination. All in all a good experience. I would have to say she is worth the try if you find yourself in the area and in need. Hold the line on price she thinks she should get more than $.
Amphunter
For once and for all , this is just a myth. But if anyone wants to look like a retard be my guest!
Herb Surfs
06-28-06, 09:59
For those of you who have enjoyed Rose's services and her smokin hot young body, I'm sad to report that she is no longer working at OK.
Last time I saw her there she told me she had been taking golf lessons. So of course once she was naked I asked to see her swing. There she was showing me her swing naked. I could hardly wait to "put the pin in the cup"!
That was sweet!
Most of the vietnamese coffee chicks are smarter than they look.. they are looking for a sugar daddy. My brother in law owns one. I personally know a couple of girls that works in them. They get paid pretty good ( like $20 or more) an hour + tips. Most get paid in cash.
Marvelous88
06-28-06, 16:23
For those of you who have enjoyed Rose's services and her smokin hot young body, I'm sad to report that she is no longer working at OK.
Last time I saw her there she told me she had been taking golf lessons. So of course once she was naked I asked to see her swing. There she was showing me her swing naked. I could hardly wait to "put the pin in the cup"!
That was sweet!Herb Surfs, that's a great little story. I got my own "sweet" visual of the swing demonstration.
I hope that you find a rosie replacement real soon! Keep us posted.
Marvelous
Why do many AMP services cost so much? I have at least a partial answer.
I occasionally meet with a lady who ran some well known jack shacks a couple of years back. Nothing big - one office had an average of three girls and the other two. Both were extensively reviewed on this board.
To avoid the extensive city licensing requirements for massage parlors, she operated under the license of a chiropractor. The good doctor would stop in about once a month, get some free service, and collect his $4,000.00 a month fee.
Four grand a month and free pussy for the use of his license. I wish I could get such a deal!
An internet search revealed that the doc had a least six other "offices" in California.
That's why many of the girls are now working out of nail or hair removal places. It avoids the massage license and the need for the doc.
Pimp Hound
06-29-06, 04:29
Yup. I've heard of that legend. Nothing is really to be had at these places. there are many rumors that were more prevalent a few years back. I've personally known 2 girls that worked at those places and they've told me some interesting stories about what goes behind the scenes. PM to share info.I am curious to know what goes on behind the scenes at these places I might visit one soon.
Is this place DOA?
Gone... We can thank a self-centered motherfucker who kept putting up those ads and put a big target on Vick's.... They couldn't prove anything so they harrassed them out of business.
The guy Linda suspects would put up the ad, then tell Linda that he could "hack" into CL to remove the ad but "it's a felony" so she needs to provide a freebie to get him to do it... Then he'll go post another ad and pull the same shit. Not only that, he brought his BABY there and had Linda babysit for free!!
She doesn't have proof that this guy did it, because CL staff will not cooperate and release the IP address and email of the asshole who posted the ads.. I really wish I can get my hands on that son of a *****!!
Asain_Ucker
06-30-06, 22:48
I happened to be there banging Gina one sat wen that same guy comes in.He had a laptop and his kid. Gina says this guy was real strange and all the girls hated him. I didnt think much of him at the time,but now it makes sence. I'd like to get a hold of him myself.
Gone... We can thank a self-centered motherfucker who kept putting up those ads and put a big target on Vick's.... They couldn't prove anything so they harrassed them out of business.
The guy Linda suspects would put up the ad, then tell Linda that he could "hack" into CL to remove the ad but "it's a felony" so she needs to provide a freebie to get him to do it... Then he'll go post another ad and pull the same shit. Not only that, he brought his BABY there and had Linda babysit for free!!
She doesn't have proof that this guy did it, because CL staff will not cooperate and release the IP address and email of the asshole who posted the ads.. I really wish I can get my hands on that son of a *****!!
Nothing going on here. Don't waste your time.
Nothing going on here. Don't waste your time.
But I guess we can waste our time researching what you're talking about.
Why not simply give the name and address? Surely, even those critical of posting detailed information couldn't be critical of giving addresses where NOTHING IS GOING ON!
HolmesJr's report was in regards to a very recent post, so it shouldn't be too hard to research.
By the by, I also tried the new place at the old address. Nicer set up, I suppose, but the towel was large and stayed firmly in place the whole time, not even a tease. Maybe they're playing it safe until repeats?
But I guess we can waste our time researching what you're talking about.
Why not simply give the name and address? Surely, even those critical of posting detailed information couldn't be critical of giving addresses where NOTHING IS GOING ON!
So you want the address of a place where nothing is going on? Figure it out Einstein!
Amppheliac
07-02-06, 09:52
Yup. I've heard of that legend. Nothing is really to be had at these places. there are many rumors that were more prevalent a few years back. I've personally known 2 girls that worked at those places and they've told me some interesting stories about what goes behind the scenes. PM to share info.
Can you share the stories behind the scene? I've been to Cafe Lu, Di Vang 2, Xinh Xinh, and a few others. Have seen some hotties and have always wondered if any of them would be willing to do the deed for some extra $$. But have not figured out a good way to ask them. Any inside info would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Mphelper909
07-02-06, 12:36
I heard there is a new place in Lake Forest a Chinese Massage Parlor.
My buddy saw a Chinese woman named Evone.
He said she has a great ass with a Adolf Hitler pussy shave.
He doesn't remember where it is located nor does he remember the number.
He told me she has a great ass and great service but he has only seen her twice.
If you know the location of this please please PM/IM me with it.
He told me that he saw her before in Tustin.
1076 1st street.
So you want the address of a place where nothing is going on? Figure it out Einstein!
Fine. But can you explain the logic for those of us who are not as intelligent?
So you want the address of a place where nothing is going on? Figure it out Einstein!If they are advertising somewhere in a way that suggest extras might be offered, it's worth knowing who and where they are.
Pbateman69
07-02-06, 22:01
Went in for massage, .6 for the hour. Two older, haggard looking japanese ladies. Everything went super-professional, and upon the flip-over, I tried to get XXX with it. No Chance. It is obviously a no extras place. The others in the area are busts too. Just to let the board know. Now that LS and LP are shut down by the pigs, I don't have a legit operation I can count on. I heard of a place rockin in Gardena or Gardenia. Send me a message with directions. I'll check it out and get back to the board.
Anyone know of where the girls from the shut down operations headed to?
There was some MEAN talent in those joints.
City Slicker
07-03-06, 11:48
I went there on Friday since business was slow for me. Meant the mamasan at the door since I've been there a few times. Did not see anyone else and I was hoping to avoid Paula anyway and tried someone else. Paid her 60 for 45 min. since price has gone up from the last time I was there. Got undress and in walk the mamasan. I asked her if there was someone else or is she going to be doing the massage. Told me no one else but she will provide excellent service if I stay....what the hell.
Massage was decent and she rubbed all the right place to get me going. During the massage she told me they were in the process of moving since there have been LE stopping by and checking on their licenses. The girls are probably spooked so I guess many of them of havent been coming to work. They are going to be moving to someplace on Jamboree in Irvine when their lease is up this month. Plus the doctor wanted more money and a bigger split.
She was real candid and offered some details when they make their next move. Probably going to charge a higher rate but it will be all inclusive so there is no need for negoitation which I dont think will work since most monger are cheap and providers are greedy by nature.
Got my release and she even pulled her top down....I just closed my eyes and went to a happy place.
Peace.
Went in for massage, .6 for the hour. Two older, haggard looking japanese ladies. Everything went super-professional, and upon the flip-over, I tried to get XXX with it. No Chance. It is obviously a no extras place. The others in the area are busts too. Just to let the board know. Now that LS and LP are shut down by the pigs, I don't have a legit operation I can count on. I heard of a place rockin in Gardena or Gardenia. Send me a message with directions. I'll check it out and get back to the board.
Anyone know of where the girls from the shut down operations headed to?
There was some MEAN talent in those joints.In OC there are always OK and Health Therapy in Irvine - review this thread and check ********* website for very detailed info. There are dozens of places in LA especially Inglewood, Hollywood and Santa Monica - pick up an LA Weekly or LAXpress.
Ho Down Man
07-04-06, 15:21
Anyone been here??? http://www.breaspa.com/
Member #3942
07-04-06, 21:35
I heard there is a new place in Lake Forest a Chinese Massage Parlor.
My buddy saw a Chinese woman named Evone.
He said she has a great ass with a Adolf Hitler pussy shave.
He doesn't remember where it is located nor does he remember the number.
He told me she has a great ass and great service but he has only seen her twice.
If you know the location of this please please PM/IM me with it.
He told me that he saw her before in Tustin.
1076 1st street.
2 places on Lambart off of Lake Forest have a girl called Evone. Both have a nice ass and neither of them do anything but legit massage. Maybe he is talking about another place. Someone should clue me in too if they know what the hell this guy is talking about.
Also a new place off of tustin and the 5. #c if I remember right about 2 blocks away from the old 1st street place. Girl looked ok. Said there would be lots of girls. No shower but good massage. Only saw one girl she was pushing 40 but sweet.
Anyone been here??? http://www.breaspa.com/
It's legit, read comments on another board.
AF
I heard there is a new place in Lake Forest a Chinese Massage Parlor.
My buddy saw a Chinese woman named Evone.
He said she has a great ass with a Adolf Hitler pussy shave.
He doesn't remember where it is located nor does he remember the number.
He told me she has a great ass and great service but he has only seen her twice.
If you know the location of this please please PM/IM me with it.
He told me that he saw her before in Tustin.
1076 1st street.If he can't remember after two visits. I'm still looking for Linda that was the queen of First street. Let me know if any of you guys hooks up with her.
Funny, I thought exactly the same thing. But since I got slammed for making another sarcastic comment recently I decided to pass on this one.
Awhile back there was a good one at Lake Forest Body Centre.
Have wondered where that gal went.
Slim, enjoyed dry humping, DFK'd, HJ's, etc.
I guess she was too hot for the facility.
ROMAN
I am spoiled with AMP's from my former home state, slightly more expenseive, but worth it. I enjoyed Nola from Vicks, but have had nothing but poor service at OK.
If anyone has any suggestions for a place in OC with table showers and a very happy ending (FS) can you PM me? Would be willing to reciprocate with anyone who needs Ohio information.
Went to 103 today. I arrived about 20 minute before closed and paid the mamasan $50 for the 1/2 hour. In walks Coco and she says to late for massage and just do the business. Since she was hot I said o.k. She was good looking but somewhat mechanical. She asked for $, but I should have paid less because I didn't get a massage. Overall a pretty good time.
Mphelper909
07-09-06, 01:44
If he can't remember after two visits. I'm still looking for Linda that was the queen of First street. Let me know if any of you guys hooks up with her.Linda lives in Upland she is not working!
Where is Cathy aka Ming Ming?
Where is Eva?
I decided to try something new and seek out a latina, so I ventured down to Fair Drive. This is a two-story medical building at the corner of Harbor and Fair, and has three mps (Units D, M & P). I thought I had struck gold. I stuck my nose into all three to check out the chicas and found the places to be nice and clean with a few good looking girls. I only tried unit M with Vicky who was so so, but I'll be back to check out the other units. Has anyone else checked out these joints. I think I've read in the past that they get raided often being in CM.
There has been LE action here in the past few months. Even before the LE action the ladies and service were only so-so.
When I was there a few months ago all were Asian.
I wouldn't bother to go back - at least until the OC Fair ends in a couple of weeks. (The fair raises the profile of the CMPD.)
City Slicker
07-11-06, 13:07
I'm not even sure why LE would bother raiding this place since they really dont provide any service and the ladies are so-so.
Just dont get it sometime.
There has been LE action here in the past few months. Even before the LE action the ladies and service were only so-so.
When I was there a few months ago all were Asian.
I wouldn't bother to go back - at least until the OC Fair ends in a couple of weeks. (The fair raises the profile of the CMPD.)
New place (3 weeks old) appearing in the OC Register Adult classified ads.
If you have ever been to 1076 First Street (before they were closed down for being a bit TOO friendly, other suites in the same parking lot provide handshake friendship if you pursue it but they have their limits) you can access this place by simply traversing the parking lot all the way south past other medical complexes until you are almost ready to exit onto Bryan.
Both Chinese ladies age-wise = late 20s (I'm guessing on that), nice looking and eager to please. Judy, my massuese, was an A-cup. Sabrina, whom I met upon exiting, seems equally friendly and might be a C-cup.
Door fee = $40/half hour, customary tip for the lady's manual labor will be gratefully appreciated.
I left smiling. Hope to return soon and make the acquantance of the other massuese Sabrina (she was sporting some serious cleavage on this hot afternoon). They close at 8PM, which usually means you have to get in the door by 7:30PM.
Enjoy!
Virginia Guy
07-12-06, 08:59
I am arriving in Newport Beach today. Any good AMPs in town that you guys recommend? I am also looking for a cute spinner type escort to visit my room. I am looking to spend $.5 for a multiple pop session. thanks for your help. PM me with details.
Member #3942
07-12-06, 09:29
New place (3 weeks old) appearing in the OC Register Adult classified ads.
Both Chinese ladies age-wise = late 20s (I'm guessing on that), nice looking and eager to please. Judy, my massuese, was an A-cup. Sabrina, whom I met upon exiting, seems equally friendly and might be a C-cup.
I left smiling. Hope to return soon and make the acquantance of the other massuese Sabrina (she was sporting some serious cleavage on this hot afternoon). They close at 8PM, which usually means you have to get in the door by 7:30PM.
Enjoy!
Ive been there too. I had Sabrina. Decent massage but theres no shower. Has the smallest front door I have every seen. Got the usual handy. Nice looking, got her pants down but nothing more. So hot they should wear dresses!! I might go back just cause she was so sweet.
City Slicker
07-12-06, 16:58
Dont take this the wrong way nor am I bashing you but you are way off left field when you guessed their age. They are probably in the late 30s. Serivce is good since they are new but they are just like every other place here in OC...older hags....again no offense.
City
New place (3 weeks old) appearing in the OC Register Adult classified ads.
If you have ever been to 1076 First Street (before they were closed down for being a bit TOO friendly, other suites in the same parking lot provide handshake friendship if you pursue it but they have their limits) you can access this place by simply traversing the parking lot all the way south past other medical complexes until you are almost ready to exit onto Bryan.
Both Chinese ladies age-wise = late 20s (I'm guessing on that), nice looking and eager to please. Judy, my massuese, was an A-cup. Sabrina, whom I met upon exiting, seems equally friendly and might be a C-cup.
Door fee = $40/half hour, customary tip for the lady's manual labor will be gratefully appreciated.
I left smiling. Hope to return soon and make the acquantance of the other massuese Sabrina (she was sporting some serious cleavage on this hot afternoon). They close at 8PM, which usually means you have to get in the door by 7:30PM.
Enjoy!
Jonathan1301
07-12-06, 18:25
Has anyone been there
V I P Massage
1426 W 6th St 103
Corona, CA 92882
951-371-3885
It looks promising.
I’ve never been very good at guessing ages but for the most part I don’t care (as long as they’re adults).
I would much prefer a provider with a little mileage that gives good service to a younger one who just doesn’t care.
There’s a provider in North County that must in her mid-fifties who gives the best pure HJ I’ve ever had. I wouldn’t want her as my exclusive provider but occasionally it’s a great change of pace from the other options.
Has anyone been there
V I P Massage
1426 W 6th St 103
Corona, CA 92882
951-371-3885
It looks promising.
Congrats on finding that MP... Now that you've posted it LE knows right where to go!!
Congrats on finding that MP... Now that you've posted it LE knows right where to go!!
Let's see, on the internet I was able to obtain the following information:
Per the City of Corona non-regulatory business license =
address @ 1426 W 6th Street
Corona, CA
(tel) 951/371-3885
owner = kim-loan dinh (I think that is Vietnamese)
State industrial code = massage parlor
National industrial code = other personal care services
Business license #617632
Also,
per the Orange County & Riverside yellow pages this business is listed in the "Massage" category
also advertises on Craig's List
Has the word "Massage" in business name, hardly an attempt to masquerade themselves from any "key word" search.
Can anybody (LE included) call this business establishment and inquire "How much for a half-hour?" and not get the answer "Half hour = $40" ??
Yeah, our fellow poster sure did "out" that business. LOL
PS: Shouldn't all this nonsense be in the Riverside sector?
Maybe Riverside LE doesn't read the Orange County sector.
Thus due to monger posting errors to wrong location ... this MP was not "outted" after all.
Ha-ha-ha
I think LE only monitors this site (and numerous similar sites) for TRAFFIC rather than to discover parlors.
If there is a ton of traffic (business), then it warrants LE snooping into.
The level of paranoia on this board is rising to ridiculous levels. To think that LE needs this Board to find out what might go on in AMP is ludicrous.
Maybe we should all buy secret decoder rings?
Congrats on finding that MP... Now that you've posted it LE knows right where to go!!This place is legit and has been there about 4 years now, HJ's used to depend on provider but they don't seem to do that anymore. I think PlaneGuy is still butt-hurt over Vick's being shut down, I wish you guys would just let it go. Fuck!
Member #3942
07-13-06, 22:13
Again with the stupidity. What a bummer. I do have a smoe-what report. I went to see Mandy in laguna hills. Its a private apartment. She has an ad on CL off and on. 60 for an hour. Shes kinda thick but give a really good massage with no extras. Still is nice in an apratment for 60. Too bad she was wearing shorts. I am really wanting a hotty in a dress.
This place is legit and has been there about 4 years now, HJ's used to depend on provider but they don't seem to do that anymore. I think PlaneGuy is still butt-hurt over Vick's being shut down, I wish you guys would just let it go. Fuck!
Butt-hurt, no, but I am still pissed off about what happened to that place!
Herb Surfs
07-14-06, 00:35
I don't really want to get pulled into the pissing match going on here but I think that all mongers should be pissed off about Vick's being closed and more importantly how it got closed.
I'm not 100% certain but there is a good chance that it was shut down due to a loose cannon monger on this board providing LE with every bit of information necessary to walk in as an undercover monger supplied with fresh G2 from this board and close the place down.
Places like Vicks don't pop up everyday and when one goes tits up it hurts all MP mongers. It's one less place available and because of the closure it increases traffic at other places like OK and creates a more visable target for LE.
We should all be pissed.
And those of you with 3 posts telling Sr. members to let it go and not be pissed, you have to earn your stripes before telling someone on this board what to do.
Rockett Man
07-14-06, 00:46
Guys, I don't want to add fuel to the fire... All I'll say is that there ARE news articles out there, that talk about certain LE departments that specifically have people that troll the internet looking for stuff like this...
YES - its a fact they can find it on their own by doing internet research, stopping door to door at AMPS, or reading on CL.
YES - its also a fact that, for LE who are doing internet research - it makes it EASIER for them when guys write fully detailed articles on this board.
I think it is cut and dry. I see where Plane guy is coming from. I see where the opposite viewpoint is coming from....
Lastly, there is such as thing as PM - we can use that too. That's it. Flame me if you want, but please don't. I am not trying to piss off either side. However, my personal opinion is that is is better to use a little discretion, and if you really want to blab to folks, save some magic for it by using PM. Ok... Are we all going to stand on the hillside now and sing... "I'd like to buy the world a coke?" :)
RM
Did a repeat bombing raid to this place to specifically check out Sabrina.
Judy left today for China but will return.
The more time I spent with Sabrina the more I began to appreciate City Slicker's observation that maybe the ladies were older than I originally estimated. I guess I'm getting old and every gal looks like a kid. Sabrina's been in USA 10 years so mid 30's at least. At any rate, City Slicker's guess appears much closer than mine. But I still won't concede that a lady 15-20 years younger than me is "an old hag". What does that make me??
Okay, Sabrina was nice and friendly but Judy (like Avis Rent-A-Car) tries harder. Doesn't it always seem that way? The gal with the A-cup has to try harder than the C-cup gal who just sits there, laughs and looks bosomly awesome.
Cash Value indicated I was going to get a whole lot of friendship but this lady got philosophical with me, muttering something about not being too easy on the first date. I just sighed with a "Why me?" whisper under my breath and agreed with Sabrina ... "of course, of course".
Overall it was a happy experience, those seriously cleaved boobies alone will make you horny as hell ... but I was still hoping for more.
Like so many things in life, YMMV, but you younger studs could probably manage an even better time than I had.
Out!
I don't really want to get pulled into the pissing match going on here but I think that all mongers should be pissed off about Vick's being closed and more importantly how it got closed.
I'm not 100% certain but there is a good chance that it was shut down due to a loose cannon monger on this board providing LE with every bit of information necessary to walk in as an undercover monger supplied with fresh G2 from this board and close the place down.
Places like Vicks don't pop up everyday and when one goes tits up it hurts all MP mongers. It's one less place available and because of the closure it increases traffic at other places like OK and creates a more visable target for LE.
We should all be pissed.
And those of you with 3 posts telling Sr. members to let it go and not be pissed, you have to earn your stripes before telling someone on this board what to do.No one stopped my post from going through, so I guess I CAN tell a Sr. member what to do. And just because I'm a lurker and you are a "Sr. member" doesn't mean I don't know what to do when walking into a MP to get laid. Your only a Sr. member because you post more details about a Mp that will probably someday get busted. also, If you look at my profile you will see that I have been on this board longer than you and Planeguy. I won't be commenting on this subjuct anymore. I want to keep my post count under 10.
Visted Ok for the first time yesterday. Sarah was the manager. Was serviced by Bobbi. I think that was her name. Claims to be half Japanese, half Korean. She looked sort of like Gloria Estaphan. Definitely Latin eyes.
She started off calling me "Baby. " Translation: you're a faceless person, let's do a quicky so you can pay me. Indeed the service was mechanical. But she's willing to do threesomes (I asked). Will not repeat with her, because I prefer the MILF look (call me a sick puppy). I actually wanted Sarah, the more "mature" one, but was refused.
Being in upscale Irvine, I thought the place was going to look more upscale. No. It looked just like the ones in Inglewood. I swear, just by looking at the layout of a MP, you can tell if they're going to offer full service. Lower lighting, less tidy, bathroom in the middle, no wall decors, etc. And I suppose the scandalously dressed women also gives it away.
The legits ones that I've been to actually looks like a doctor's office. This one has that "feel" of a MP.
Herb Surfs
07-16-06, 11:11
[QUOTE=derbin] I want to keep my post count under 10.
Good; because you contribute nada.
Ho Down Man
07-16-06, 16:07
Hey Guys,
Anyone try this place??? Is it legit or can extras be had??? Please PM me with information.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ers/182661828.html
thanks
Ho Man
Hey Guys,
Anyone try this place??? Is it legit or can extras be had??? Please PM me with information.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ers/182661828.html
thanks
Ho Man
Eden Spa
660 Baker St. suite 307, Costa Mesa, CA. 92626
Massage with no extras.
I want to keep my post count under 10.
Will you go to heaven if you keep your posts under 10? Please don't respond to this since we want your remaining five posts to be good ones.
Rockett Man
07-16-06, 20:05
that is hilarious JJ. NICE!!! :)
Oops. Another post for me. DARN IT.
Will you go to heaven if you keep your posts under 10? Please don't respond to this since we want your remaining five posts to be good ones.
No one stopped my post from going through, so I guess I CAN tell a Sr. member what to do. And just because I'm a lurker and you are a "Sr. member" doesn't mean I don't know what to do when walking into a MP to get laid. Your only a Sr. member because you post more details about a Mp that will probably someday get busted. also, If you look at my profile you will see that I have been on this board longer than you and Planeguy. I won't be commenting on this subjuct anymore. I want to keep my post count under 10.HEY [Deleted by Admin]: There is no "rule" about newbies telling Sr. Members what to do. Almost all posts go through, except Jackson checks out the posts of regular members before they post. Sr. Member posts go through almost instantly... When we are talking about Sr. Members, it has nothing to do with what you know, it has to do with establishing trust.
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When to Main and Redhill, looked for OK. I don't think I found it. When to some place sort of next to a Thia message shop. Was this OK? What ever it was it sucked and not in a good way. "I'm too shy" "I don't know what you want". What a rip off. no tip. Michelle was her name.
I actually wanted Sarah, the more "mature" one, but was refused.
If there was a particular girl that was working that I wanted to see and was refused, I would refuse to hand over any money until I got to see the girl I requested. Visits to these places cost a few bucks, and I wouldn't settle for someone you didn't care for in the first place.
Just my $.02
I just got back from one of the Irvine trick pads. I gotta tell ya, it's always best with a Korean girl. Dammit! I don't know that I've ever had a bad experience with a K-girl, and tonights was probably one of the top 3 of all time for me. Are all Korean women this hot in the sack? If so I am going to see my lawyer right now, my wife can keep the f'n house! Sigh.
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Member #3942
07-18-06, 09:39
In Irvine, theres that Latina Therapy on skypark circle. Well right next to that is a place that anything goes. Sure you can check them out first too since they usally sit in the front watching tv. Oh its not on skypark circle, its on the smaller street.
Almost went into the latina place too since I havnt been there for a while. Was wondering if its any better. Couldnt tell if anyone was wearing a skirt!! In the asian place all of them were wearing dresses or mini skirts.
Skirt with a big ass that likes to pay. I am sure theres one somewhere.
If there was a particular girl that was working that I wanted to see and was refused, I would refuse to hand over any money until I got to see the girl I requested. Visits to these places cost a few bucks, and I wouldn't settle for someone you didn't care for in the first place.
Just my $.02Thanks Mel.
But Sarah was the manager. So I took her refusal at face value.
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Dent,
The problem with OK Acupuncture is that there is only a single smaaaallll "neon" OK sign. Look for the word Acupuncture instead when you're searching the area.
Jonathan1301
07-18-06, 20:04
That is a Korean place that I have been so many times, got nothing :((
Is there a hope plzzz PM me, cause that lasy is so hot.
Was in the area. Saw large white "POLICE"-labeled SUV two
buildings back from the OK Corral on Sunday.
Since Pork on Sunday isn't my favorite dish, I moved on.
ROMAN
Was in the area. Saw large white "POLICE"-labeled SUV two
buildings back from the OK Corral on Sunday.
Since Pork on Sunday isn't my favorite dish, I moved on.
ROMAN
I try to stay away from OK on very hot days, because their AC system sucks and the little fans in each room don't do it for me. I had a buddy check OK on Sun. PM and he said they were open for business. So the PD SUV must have been an investigation unit dealing with some other issue.
I try to stay away from OK on very hot days, because their AC system sucks and the little fans in each room don't do it for me. I had a buddy check OK on Sun. PM and he said they were open for business. So the PD SUV must have been an investigation unit dealing with some other issue.
MP - you hope. Personally, I won't take the risk of giving the assumption
of no issue unless there is *no evidence at all to the contrary* !
Being open doesn't mean there isn't an investigation, visit, or otherwise
going on between LE and the MP, trailing John's (or mere visitors
or people in the area) to their cars to get license plates, harassment,
and beyond.
Current fascist trends behoove all of us to be more cautious.
ROMAN
Irvine PD doesn't use white SUV's that I know of. There is a private security company on the other end of the lot. It might have been one of their vehicles. Could also have been one of the private security vehicles that regularly patrol the Koll properties. Seems I do remember some light colored SUV's from back when I used to have an office on the circle.
Happy Hoin!
Irvine PD doesn't use white SUV's that I know of. There is a private security company on the other end of the lot. It might have been one of their vehicles. Could also have been one of the private security vehicles that regularly patrol the Koll properties. Seems I do remember some light colored SUV's from back when I used to have an office on the circle.
Happy Hoin!
It clearly said IRVINE POLICE on it.
ROMAN
It clearly said IRVINE POLICE on it.
ROMAN
They are white with blue/green stripes, but are used for investigation only. Sometimes driven by police explorers. Maybe one of them was getting a hummer and wanted to park it two buildings away.
Squard cars would be used to do a bust, or vice would be undercover in plain wrapper.
I'm sure it was nothing, but it pays to be aware.
Horny Toad
07-27-06, 22:18
Does anyone know of any vietnamese joints in the Westminister / Garden Grove area?
Member #3942
07-28-06, 00:30
Does anyone know of any vietnamese joints in the Westminister / Garden Grove area?
Oh please, take your pic there are like 40 of them and they all do HJ. Least take some risk and try one. Not trying to be an ass but damn do just a tad of research and you wont have to ask,.
I had a slender Korean gal named Amy. She didn't like her nipples sucked and no dfk allowed. However, she was young and pretty sexy. She came in wearing a orange tie top and orange mini skirt with no panties. The other gal there was equally attractive 5'7, slender, B cups and small Asian butt.
My doctor told me to exercise more and I always listen to more doctor. I sure wish I could find a Viet place with equal service. I haven't had a Viet gal since the war...J/K I ain't that old. However, please help me out with any info you can. Peace, Oni
One Wing Low
07-28-06, 03:51
Please inquire with your local PD's. You can also ask your lieutenant. He'd know.
Does anyone know of any vietnamese joints in the Westminister / Garden Grove area?
Mphelper909
07-28-06, 11:00
Please inquire with your local PD's. You can also ask your lieutenant. He'd know.LOL that great!
Hey LE or newguy do some fucking work and spend your own money.
Member #3063
07-28-06, 16:43
Does anyone know of any vietnamese joints in the Westminister / Garden Grove area?Come on dude, do some research or just take one for the team and pick any one out there and report back. No one is going to flat out give you anything. You got aleast try make some effort.
The place is in a strip mall surrounded by residential buildings. There is a yellow van behind the building and has a big sign that says MASSAGE with their telephone number on it. The lobby is big with several chairs. Behind the front desk, you’ll find each therapist’s license hanged on the wall. They let you take a shower if you want and is part of the $40 for half an hour. The rooms are the typical massage tables. Most of the rooms have only curtains for privacy but I did find a few rooms that has a regular door. Most of the therapists are Asians. Mine is Chinese/Russian mix. She knows how to give a massage and she somewhat brushes on my sensitive part when she was working on my lower extremities. She did not offer or insinuate anything extra and I did not ask for one.
SC
Santaclaus:
That's the same management as the one in Costa Mesa 660 Baker. Robs!
Dicktease ads but a legit massage. Cops love those types of businesses in their neighborhoods. They laugh their asses off while scarfing down their coffee and doughnuts everytime they visit these boards and see who gets burned.
Flag them as spam everytime you see them on CL.
Not bagging on you if you are a newbee but do some research before you blow your money. Costa Mesa for instance has many massage parlors that have stayed in business for decades under the same management that don't do shit. They all run provocative ads in OCR,OC Weekly and other sex rags and count on an endless suppy of suckers which they get. Been one done that but never again.
Happy Hoin!
Member #2157
07-30-06, 10:23
New (to me) Chinese table shower rub/tug place in business park
Difference between this one and the others i've been to is that the girl was young and pretty and had a nice big (fake) rack you could play with until your hearts content. Definitely a cut above the typical.
Member #2157
07-30-06, 10:53
Her name was Tiffany.
AMPs can call their servies "prostate cancer prevention treatment"... An article by BBC (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm) stated that "cancer-causing chemicals could build up in the prostate if men do not ejaculate regularly."
Now if we could only get the AMA to recognize this and officially sanction handjobs at AMPs it can be legalized and we will be able to get insurance to pay for it!
Question: When my therapist asks "How can we help you today?"
should I tell her
1] "I have a going problem"
or
2] "I have a GROWING problem" ???
He-he-he
The last company I worked for had a fairly liberal insurance plan. They covered accupuncture since most of the company was oriental and I was the token white guy. One of my favorite places in Anaheim which is no longer around was on my plan. 15$ copay for BJ with HJ completion for about a year until we changed carriers. Still wrote it off my taxes just to be an asshole. I still write off about 1200$ a year on the jackshacks and ho houses that are covered by legit chiro licences.
I know there is some IRS monger saying "You mother fucker!" as he reads this.
FU2!
Happy Hoin!
This is great news - I could live to be 100!!
OMG - it's been a week. I better get my treatment today!
:)
AMPs can call their servies "prostate cancer prevention treatment"... An article by BBC (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm) stated that "cancer-causing chemicals could build up in the prostate if men do not ejaculate regularly."
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Jonathan1301
07-31-06, 18:27
Congrats on finding that MP... Now that you've posted it LE knows right where to go!!Well thanks for confirming that the place is not legit, next time try to write something like its a waste of time and pm the good news, superstar..
Jonathan1301
08-01-06, 05:27
TOFTT nothing special there, good massage from Helen (old vietnamese lady) don't waste your money. .6 for an hour .4 half there is shower room but not table shower, accept credit cards.
That's strange. I was offered FS there by a young Viet lady about a month ago.
TOFTT nothing special there, good massage from Helen (old vietnamese lady) don't waste your money. .6 for an hour .4 half there is shower room but not table shower, accept credit cards.
Marvelous88
08-02-06, 01:54
I had a slender Korean gal named Amy. She didn't like her nipples sucked and no dfk allowed. However, she was young and pretty sexy. First my thanks to everyone for the GG 103 reports. Made my way over there yesterday early afternoon. I did my research first and decided to just go with it and not ask for a particular RA since they all sounded pretty good. However I was going to turn away Amy after reading Onilove96's report.
So a slender, tall, young and somewhat sexy girl comes in and I ask her name and she says Annie. I asked again because it sounded a bit like Amy...Annie.
So on with the show; just okay massage, thankfully short. Without saying anythng takes off her top - beautiful B-cups with amazing nips - and little mini skirt - showing a nice little black bush - and proceeds with a CBJ of passable quality, followed with some 69. Couldn't help it with one so fresh, not a sag or a wrinkle anywhere.
So when we get into mish and I start to lean into kiss her breast she about has a heart attack - "no, no I don't like!" And it is at about that moment that it hits me; this is Amy. I didn't even try kissing after that.
Never the less it was a nice ride, just limited positions and then a warm towel cleanup.
50/80 no questions. Except I did ask here to spell her name A-N-N-I-E.
Final note I was in that area about two weeks ago for something else, had a little extra time, and was looking around thinking I know there's someplace around here. I now realize I went right by it, but you will never know it as there's no signs. Thanks again to all those before me and their reports I will be going again.
Don't PM for info it's all in the previous posts.
Marvelous
What is that all about.
I didn't even think the Koreans liked the Japanese.
I find that the KGirls are more into it than the JGirls, who seem to be more reserved. The JGirls seem to speak better english, and I was told they teach it in school in Japan. I also think the KGirls are cuter with better bodies, but that's just my taste.
Also, June wasn't there last Sat., replaced with an older, no nonsense mamasan , which I swear I've seem in a lot of now defunt AMPs around town.
This confirms my suspinions that all these joints are run by the asian mafia.
Member #2157
08-02-06, 22:13
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Dave Lowe2004
08-03-06, 18:35
Took one for the team... Advertised in OC Weekly, "Beautiful Girls". I think address is 13636 or near there. Nice massage and pretty girl but nothing more. She said I could jo while she massaged but wanted a little more.
Like others here I am reluctant to give out my fave spots but at least we can share the ones that are no good!
But if anyone has some favorite latina provider I have a real soft spot for them! Might be talked into trading...
Member #5605
08-04-06, 10:47
I have discovered the existence of three MP's (all within 2 blocks on Camino Capistrano) down here in SJC. Anyone know if they are worth visiting?
Vanilla Shake
08-04-06, 22:14
After many months away, stopped in for a quickie. A few questions about who I knew and when did I last see them and I was in. I made it a point to request Japanese with full bush, so in comes Michelle. Tall, very thin. A cups, a butt you can fit in the palm of your hand, and a full bush.
Nice massage, and she likes to be in control. Started with Mish, then stood up and had her suck me off while I squeezed her ass. Changed it up to doggy with me standing and she on all fours facing the wall watching myself pound her ass in the mirror. Finished with her ass and pussy in my face while performing BJ.
She works Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and sometimes Friday's. That's why I think it was my lucky day.
Member #3942
08-05-06, 10:04
I have discovered the existence of three MP's (all within 2 blocks on Camino Capistrano) down here in SJC. Anyone know if they are worth visiting?
The one in the middle is a tanning place. Nice girl there but shes been kinda weird for a while. Dont expect muc. Other 2 places same owner. They swap girls back and forth every other day. Um nothing special. They all do HJ but thats it. Usally good massage too.
Been looking for a place with younger girls that really do a good massage on your ass and tease the hell out of you. Still looking.
Also been to a few on CL private res with older women. Fair but not great. If you want info ask me.
Rescuediver
08-05-06, 19:46
I was hopping that i could find someone that knows of a massage palor with a bit of extra that takes Ins. Now that would be great. only co pay Grin If you know of any please E mail me so i can get in on this idea. Thanks to everyone here Forum is great
Member #3063
08-05-06, 20:52
I was hopping that i could find someone that knows of a massage palor with a bit of extra that takes Ins. Now that would be great. only co pay Grin If you know of any please E mail me so i can get in on this idea. Thanks to everyone here Forum is greatHa HA HA HA HA HA
Vanilla Shake
08-06-06, 01:20
First my thanks to everyone for the GG 103 reports. Made my way over there yesterday early afternoon. I did my research first and decided to just go with it and not ask for a particular RA since they all sounded pretty good. However I was going to turn away Amy after reading Onilove96's report.
So a slender, tall, young and somewhat sexy girl comes in and I ask her name and she says Annie. I asked again because it sounded a bit like Amy...Annie.
So on with the show; just okay massage, thankfully short. Without saying anythng takes off her top - beautiful B-cups with amazing nips - and little mini skirt - showing a nice little black bush - and proceeds with a CBJ of passable quality, followed with some 69. Couldn't help it with one so fresh, not a sag or a wrinkle anywhere.
So when we get into mish and I start to lean into kiss her breast she about has a heart attack - "no, no I don't like!" And it is at about that moment that it hits me; this is Amy. I didn't even try kissing after that.
Never the less it was a nice ride, just limited positions and then a warm towel cleanup.
50/80 no questions. Except I did ask here to spell her name A-N-N-I-E.
Final note I was in that area about two weeks ago for something else, had a little extra time, and was looking around thinking I know there's someplace around here. I now realize I went right by it, but you will never know it as there's no signs. Thanks again to all those before me and their reports I will be going again.
Don't PM for info it's all in the previous posts.
Marvelous
Searched the OC Register for this place. There are a number of establishments in different cities, all in suite 103.
They must drive around town-to-town searching out office parks, hoping to find an empty 103. Then put up the neon sign. Soon, anywhere you go, suite 103 will be welcoming mongers everywhere. Need a quickie, just find a "suite 103" and you're there.
Member #3942
08-06-06, 13:16
Anyone been to the place on Ponderosa yet? I read somewhere about a latina there. But also heard there was no action. Any comment? Guess its harder then hell to get anyone to talk about anything. There is another website that reviews every AMP so i dont know what the big deal is. Lets get some talking going on.
Went to Tustin, 13362 Newport, Suite D (Suites A, B and D all = HJ factories)
just because it is convenient. Been there many times before and serviced by older Chinese ladies, most of whom are okay with a little touchy-feely with your rubdown (Ruby was there forever but has apparently "moved on").
New ladies there Saturday including Michelle. Michelle is (surprise) from Tokyo, Japan ... been in USA 2 years and her english is sub-par. The sub-par english actually works in the client's favor since she didn't understand (or how to say "No" to) my many PROBING questions.
"Is putting my tool HERE a possibility?" and I put my hand under her short skirt.
"Is sucking on these part of the basic package?" and I ran my hands on her cleavage.
I asked many variations of the same theme. You get the point.
Well after touching just about everything ... I informed Michelle that I would just settle for the basic session (and customary tip).
He-he-he !!
Michelle was young, average face and a rack to die for. At least C's, maybe even qualifying for the ever elusive "D" category.
Michelle was a good sport, sporting huge hooters and overall a pretty good manual labor session.
If you like the type of cleavage where your pecker would totally disappear, sorta like a total eclipse of the sun, Michelle is your gal (it's on the menu if you ask, but she is quoting some serious dinero).
Out!
PS: Originally tried going to 1101 Bryan, Suite C2, which is just a block away, to see the chinese ladies but the door was locked. They haven't been answering the phone lately and their ad in the OC Register no longer appears.
H-m-m-m! Sounds like a bad story developing. Maybe somebody could confirm.
Member #2157
08-07-06, 10:10
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LOl, sorry about that. These girls change their names so frequently anyways and it is generally hard to comprehend what they are saying due to heavy accent. Hope you had fun though despite that fact that she does not like to have her nipples sucked : ) ONi
Dave Lowe2004
08-07-06, 13:27
Different girl too. she was very nice but the closest I got was her willing to watch me jo as I touched her. chances were slim when she came in wearing jeans... :(
Went to Tustin, 13362 Newport, Suite D (Suites A, B and D all = HJ factories) just because it is convenient. Been there many times before and serviced by older Chinese ladies, most of whom are okay with a little touchy-feely with your rubdown (Ruby was there forever but has apparently "moved on").
New ladies there Saturday including Michelle. Michelle is (surprise) from Tokyo, Japan ... been in USA 2 years and her english is sub-par. The sub-par english actually works in the client's favor since she didn't understand (or how to say "No" to) my many PROBING questions.
"Is putting my tool HERE a possibility?" and I put my hand under her short skirt.
"Is sucking on these part of the basic package?" and I ran my hands on her cleavage.
I asked many variations of the same theme. You get the point.
Well after touching just about everything ... I informed Michelle that I would just settle for the basic session (and customary tip).
He-he-he !!
Michelle was young, average face and a rack to die for. At least C's, maybe even qualifying for the ever elusive "D" category.
Michelle was a good sport, sporting huge hooters and overall a pretty good manual labor session.
If you like the type of cleavage where your pecker would totally disappear, sorta like a total eclipse of the sun, Michelle is your gal (it's on the menu if you ask, but she is quoting some serious dinero).
Out!
PS: Originally tried going to 1101 Bryan, Suite C2, which is just a block away, to see the chinese ladies but the door was locked. They haven't been answering the phone lately and their ad in the OC Register no longer appears.
H-m-m-m! Sounds like a bad story developing. Maybe somebody could confirm.
Is this the same Judy and Sabrina who used to be in Lake Forest about 2 years ago? Just wondering I used to visit Judy quite frequently. She was always awesome.
Did a repeat bombing raid to this place to specifically check out Sabrina.
Judy left today for China but will return.
The more time I spent with Sabrina the more I began to appreciate City Slicker's observation that maybe the ladies were older than I originally estimated. I guess I'm getting old and every gal looks like a kid. Sabrina's been in USA 10 years so mid 30's at least. At any rate, City Slicker's guess appears much closer than mine. But I still won't concede that a lady 15-20 years younger than me is "an old hag". What does that make me??
Okay, Sabrina was nice and friendly but Judy (like Avis Rent-A-Car) tries harder. Doesn't it always seem that way? The gal with the A-cup has to try harder than the C-cup gal who just sits there, laughs and looks bosomly awesome.
Cash Value indicated I was going to get a whole lot of friendship but this lady got philosophical with me, muttering something about not being too easy on the first date. I just sighed with a "Why me?" whisper under my breath and agreed with Sabrina ... "of course, of course".
Overall it was a happy experience, those seriously cleaved boobies alone will make you horny as hell ... but I was still hoping for more.
Like so many things in life, YMMV, but you younger studs could probably manage an even better time than I had.
Out!
Jonathan1301
08-10-06, 16:50
Went to Ospa the other day great massage, there is nothing better than a cute lady that knows how to massage.
And Yeah that place is NOT legit, they massage inside the glutes which is illegal in OC.
Member #3942
08-10-06, 21:33
The 3 places all in the same building on newport...around the 13000 block. Saw some young hotties at C but all wore jeans which I hate. but dam good looking. Saw 2 fuglies at D. Didnt see anything at A. Shame since that place is so close to everything.
O-spa. Hey johnny which one did you go to? Alicia pky or dana point? Never seen them do more then a hand shake. Do like april shes thin and can massage. Plus she has a spinner body for being over 30.
Jonathan1301
08-10-06, 22:16
O-spa. Hey johnny which one did you go to? Alicia pky or dana point? Never seen them do more then a hand shake. Do like april shes thin and can massage. Plus she has a spinner body for being over 30.I went to the one on Birch, had Lili, she is there on Tue and Th :) and she is very good and cute and polite and speaks good english.
I would love to try April... sent me the address :)
Did you go to see kim, yet?
Member #3942
08-11-06, 10:18
I was in Arizona the other day and got 2 fantastic massages. Both did a hot job by a girl in big shorts with plenty of room for reaching in. The first one played with my ass half the time. Rubbing and running her fingers up and down, squeezing like she was making bread. She even rubed like there was a jeannie inside. They were both good. Anyway theres no place in OC that does that kind of kinky ass shit to you. I was going to try a new place this week but think I will wait to hear whats been good lately.
Oh yeah Lake forest body center lost 5 girls from a raid on license.
Went to the new and improved (and relocated) Vic's Accu located on the street named after the ranch on the old TV series "Gunsmoke". Full menu. Had Sunni/Sammi/Sunti (couldn't quite tell even though I asked 10 times). Fantastic professional grade massage for a full half-hour (which is what I paid .5 for) and then the menu items took another 20 minutes. No rush, no hassle. Just like some of the old Haunts (e.g., King, Creek, Su, Narita -- gawd I do go back aways). Happy Times to all.
Went to the new and improved (and relocated) Vic's Accu located on the street named after the ranch on the old TV series "Gunsmoke". Full menu. Had Sunni/Sammi/Sunti (couldn't quite tell even though I asked 10 times). Fantastic professional grade massage for a full half-hour (which is what I paid .5 for) and then the menu items took another 20 minutes. No rush, no hassle. Just like some of the old Haunts (e.g., King, Creek, Su, Narita -- gawd I do go back aways). Happy Times to all.
Did u ask?
Marvelous88
08-12-06, 00:17
Anybody have any encouraging news?
Marveloous
Member #3942
08-12-06, 09:42
Anybody have any encouraging news?
Marveloous
Ok I give up, whats 513? Which place is that? Anything in LF sucks except for body center which is hit and miss since the raid.
Herb Surfs
08-12-06, 10:55
Went to the new and improved (and relocated) Vic's Accu located on the street named after the ranch on the old TV series "Gunsmoke". Full menu. Had Sunni/Sammi/Sunti (couldn't quite tell even though I asked 10 times). Fantastic professional grade massage for a full half-hour (which is what I paid .5 for) and then the menu items took another 20 minutes. No rush, no hassle. Just like some of the old Haunts (e.g., King, Creek, Su, Narita -- gawd I do go back aways). Happy Times to all.
As a long-time fan of Vicks, I appreciate the info however, there was no "ranch" in Gunsmoke. It took place in Dodge City and the bar in the series was "The Long Branch". Did you mean "Bonanza"?
And I'm with you missing Kings-Acu and Creekside, those were the days!
As a long-time fan of Vicks, I appreciate the info however, there was no "ranch" in Gunsmoke. It took place in Dodge City and the bar in the series was "The Long Branch". Did you mean "Bonanza"?
And I'm with you missing Kings-Acu and Creekside, those were the days!
Only old guys can remember this.
Yes, "Bonanza" not Gunsmoke. You see, I am so old that I can't remember much of anything. Of course the 60's and 70's were kind of a blur anyway. Is there a little blue pill that will fix that? Regardless, the New Vic's is worth a visit.
Happy Times!
Member #3942
08-15-06, 10:04
Been to the new vics. Had a real little hottie Kelly. Shit she was tiiny and cute.
So any regular AMPS that the girl loves to have DATY? Seems like they all wear jeans and are not into getting anything other then you out the door.(I wasnt talking about vics).
Asain_Ucker
08-16-06, 08:05
Has anyone visited 710 R lately? I was in neighborhood and was going to drop by. Is it just your standard $40/40 massage and hj factory now? I saved my 40 bucks and will try a more dependable service. Mongers, if any info on 710 please share.
Jonathan1301
08-16-06, 20:52
Has anyone visited 710 R lately? I was in neighborhood and was going to drop by. Is it just your standard $40/40 massage and hj factory now? I saved my 40 bucks and will try a more dependable service. Mongers, if any info on 710 please share.Yeap its 50/40 if you opt to an hour, last time lady had to leave during the massage due to being busy with other customers, hj was pretty good.
Any new talent at 710R?
I ducked in there right after Angel sold it and wasn't impressed. I just said, "No thanks." and left. Friendly but butt ugly female staff. Two men in scrubs in the joint too.
Happy Hoin!
Been to the new vics. Had a real little hottie Kelly. Shit she was tiiny and cute.
So any regular AMPS that the girl loves to have DATY? Seems like they all wear jeans and are not into getting anything other then you out the door.(I wasnt talking about vics).I DATYed Penny at OK in Irvine about 2 weeks ago - clean and tasty.
PB
Ok I give up, whats 513? Which place is that? Anything in LF sucks except for body center which is hit and miss since the raid.
What raid? Do you have the URL of its mention here on the board?
Just curious...
ROMAN
Perusing the Orange County Register Adult Section. Always looking for a grand opening that might be grand! . Noticed that an old location with a notoriously great reputation. 1966 Chapman, Suite J in the city of Fullerton. Has re-surfaced.
Probably re-rented to a new operator. The old tenant was infamous for being one of the selcet few where FS was on the menu.
The city of Fullerton politicians seem to be dedicated to eliminating anything fun that cost money (save watching a CSUniversity/Fullerton baseball game) so I'm not optimistic that this establishment in any way resembles the old tenant at this location.
Could somebody be a good scout and check this out (do I have to do everything around here?)?
Thanks in advance. And looking forward to an informative report.I know this might be somewhat of an old post, but I'll have to check this place out.
Has anybody recently been here?
Hobbyist35
08-18-06, 22:11
I know this might be somewhat of an old post, but I'll have to check this place out.
Has anybody recently been here?Been there.
Got a reluctant and hasty HJ.
YMMV.
Don't think FS is on the menu
Clodbuster
08-19-06, 00:46
What raid? Do you have the URL of its mention here on the board?
Just curious...
ROMANYes, I'd like to know about a "raid' too. I've searched this board and don't see any info.
Thanks,
Clodbuster
Asain_Ucker
08-19-06, 09:40
Thanks potshot, now I wont try there. I'll just spend my denero on a more reputal place that i can get fs.
later
asian ucker
Any new talent at 710R?
I ducked in there right after Angel sold it and wasn't impressed. I just said, "No thanks." and left. Friendly but butt ugly female staff. Two men in scrubs in the joint too.
Happy Hoin!
Member #3942
08-19-06, 10:48
There are 2 places there. One is new with a table shower. Its in the back. Number 5 or 6 I think. Girls are average nothing special. The other place is in the front #4. Been in there many times. Damn love the young hotties in there. Just havnt found the one that does a great BJ yet. They all look pretty good.
1000 anaheim- not so good looking girls. Table shower in the back. One is young one is older. The older one does have a big ass for an asian but she wore heavy sweats with something under them too. I was looking for more of a half naked girl that would climb all over me. Wasnt this place.
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