Strip Club Reports

[DirtyDeedsDone]

Went in a couple of times in March, late afternoon / early evening. Very slow, but the bartender was very hot and friendly, so we spent most of our time drinking and talking with her.

In March of 2021, met a dancer named Ken**a (who was no longer there this past March) and took her up a couple of times for the 30 for $$$ VIP's upstairs. Open season for anything not covered by G-String. I may have gotten a couple of light strokes over the G-String. Jr definitely stayed inside pants, but she did use her hands & mouth to rub from the outside. Not sure if that was her standard or not. Not sure if that's what you consider good play-time or not. I got zero impression that there was more on the menu inside the club, but did end up with a pair of numbers that inferred that an off-campus visit might be possible. Unfortunately, I never had an opportunity to explore that before I left town.

My main impression from this club, which is gorgeous, is that the talent that I've seen is (or was when I was in town) really attractive. But, the vibe in the club is they like to cater to a late night crowd who is NOT concerned about a bargain or cost efficiency. If you go in expecting to stretch $100, it probably won't be much fun. If you go in not worried about your budget, you'll probably enjoy yourself. I guess most strip clubs are like that! LOL.Thanks for the reply, but in comparison to the Tucson Club's our version of playing in the club apparently might be very different. In Tucson there is plenty of fuckeee fuckeee suckeee suckeee. So a little touchy touch isn't doing anything for me. Reason being is there is a person supposidly working there now that might not be working there now. I wasn't to see for myself to make sure that this is true or not true. I know that the suspense is killing you guys about right now, but I'm heading to Phoenix to confirm this, and when confirmed I'll share hopefully the happy go lucky details. I'm not expecting too much from it, but I'll / we'll see.

[TenSleep]

Thanks for the reply, but in comparison to the Tucson Club's our version of playing in the club apparently might be very different. In Tucson there is plenty of fuckeee fuckeee suckeee suckeee. So a little touchy touch isn't doing anything for me. Reason being is there is a person supposidly working there now that might not be working there now. I wasn't to see for myself to make sure that this is true or not true. I know that the suspense is killing you guys about right now, but I'm heading to Phoenix to confirm this, and when confirmed I'll share hopefully the happy go lucky details. I'm not expecting too much from it, but I'll / we'll see.Actually, I think our versions of good play time are pretty similar. Just relating what happened to me at the Platinum in Phoenix. My guess is that they have camera's being monitored in the VIP rooms at Platinum, which might affect what a dancer is willing to do in the club.

I think my only experience in a Tucson club was a really drunk night about 21 years ago. At that point in my club experience, I was pretty much unaware of the availability of extras. At that point of my one visit to a Tucson club (I have no idea which one it was) I think I was too drunk to have enjoyed or been really aware of what was going on anyway. I've since learned that if you have anything more than a light buzz, wait until you sober up a little before you head into a club that might offer some extras. .

[WhiteSun777]

Visited S44 today and had a VIP session with a new dancer. When done I paid her for 6 dances at $20.00. She said the dances are now $25.00.
I went to the bar to discuss this with manager and he affirmed that VIP at S44 is now $25.00 + one time $20.00 bracelet.
All this time visiting with one particular dancer this was never an issue. S44 also charges $8.00 for a domestic beer.
Other clubs like Bandaids charge $20.00 per VIP (no entry fee) + $4.00-$5.00 per domestic beer.
Dirtys charges $4.00-$5.00 per domestic beer and $100 for 4 VIP dances (no entry fee).
Chicas is also getting more expensive for each VIP visit is $25.00 (entry) plus $25.00 per dance.
Not sure about Hilter as they scan I d's.
Thinking seriously about a new hobby.

DN.Thank you for the report but sadly a few dancers were already charging $25/ VIP song back then (my ex-ATF included) I know her dances are always good so I have no problem with that. The trend seems to be dancers can charge whatever hell they want and management will side with them. Unless it's some crazy prices (once at Curves, a dancer wanted $30/ song for FLOOR! It's insane and it's not getting any better.

I (sort of) took a break from PHX clubs, found myself a new hobby of sorts. (the sugar world).

[Jrcnr]

Thank you for the report but sadly a few dancers were already charging $25/ VIP song back then (my ex-ATF included) I know her dances are always good so I have no problem with that. The trend seems to be dancers can charge whatever hell they want and management will side with them. Unless it's some crazy prices (once at Curves, a dancer wanted $30/ song for FLOOR! It's insane and it's not getting any better.

I (sort of) took a break from PHX clubs, found myself a new hobby of sorts. (the sugar world).HiLiter VIP is $25 a dance no entry fee and Bourbon VIP is only $20 no entry fee.

[DirtyDeedsDone]

HiLiter VIP is $25 a dance no entry fee and Bourbon VIP is only $20 no entry fee.Rather then getting intoan uncomfortable situation always discuss this before heading in anything behind closed doors, and even floor dances. Keep in mind you're the boss ado handle it like one. I'm always in charge of the situation. So if I everfeel that I'm not, I'll remove myself from that particular situation. There's always plenty more where that came from. And the same would work in their world too. It's got to click or I'm walking or moving on to the next.

[WhiteSun777]

Rather then getting intoan uncomfortable situation always discuss this before heading in anything behind closed doors, and even floor dances. Keep in mind you're the boss ado handle it like one. I'm always in charge of the situation. So if I everfeel that I'm not, I'll remove myself from that particular situation. There's always plenty more where that came from. And the same would work in their world too. It's got to click or I'm walking or moving on to the next.I concur, double checking seems to be part of SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) now. It wasn't like this pre-COVID. $10 on the floor $20 VIP, simple, and if there's entrance fee or what not.

Now it's like every dancer sets their own prices (on the floor and VIP) so you HAVE to check which I hate but no choice, sort of kills the mood you know? (oh how much?. Hmm. Ok. Never mind).

And we all heard the line "Oh I'll PROMISE it will be fun in VIP!" right.

[CoqueMeat]

For me, it's the voyeur fun.

I've done strip clubs from basically a shack and a boom box and coolers (well not quite, but you get the idea) to high dollar clubs in big cities. I've gone alone and I've gone with business partners and negotiated millions in business contracts at one. And every time, I just enjoy watching the girls. On stage, up close, behind the bar, etc.

Others go for BCD / champagne / back room dances for more. I typically don't go to one seeking that. I'll go massage or escort for that. But, if it happens, who am I to say no?

So, if you don't have the voyeuristic tendencies, and just want bang for the buck, they probably aren't your style.


Excuse my shitposting but what's the appeal of a striptease? I have done everything under the sun but never been to a stripclub. Can someone tell me the pro and cons?

[Kelso111]

For me, it's the voyeur fun.

I've done strip clubs from basically a shack and a boom box and coolers (well not quite, but you get the idea) to high dollar clubs in big cities. I've gone alone and I've gone with business partners and negotiated millions in business contracts at one. And every time, I just enjoy watching the girls. On stage, up close, behind the bar, etc.

Others go for BCD / champagne / back room dances for more. I typically don't go to one seeking that. I'll go massage or escort for that. But, if it happens, who am I to say no?

So, if you don't have the voyeuristic tendencies, and just want bang for the buck, they probably aren't your style.Thank you CoqueMeat. I always appreciate your comments. I'm not much into voyeurism but I remember checking out a half naked girl from my window, LOL. But I think it was more curiosity than anything.

Thank you again for the reply.

[Heel Lover]

Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news. Much less times 3. But the first two are probably pretty well known and the 3rd bit of news will be over after this weekend.

1. My previously favorite club, Sugar 44, apparently doesn't really do 10 dollar dances a least at night anymore. If they do, they are NOT topless AND / or are Air dances. That was my experience my last visit around Halloween which I know was forever ago, however several others I have chatted with confirmed that is still how it is today. I guess one dancer sad her floor dance would be 20 dollars. No idea if that would be a real dance like back in the day. But I doubt it.

Also VIP dances are 25 now, not 20. I've heard some dancers refuse to do those as well unless 4 or more are agreed to beforehand! 20 dollar wristband still in effect as well.

2. Not that anyone really goes to Sonnys probably on this board. But it is closest club to me. I heard NO more floor dances and VIP (4 songs) is up from 110 to 125. I'm not sure if Jessica or Phoebe (the cool MILF with the HUGE tits) still dance here, but I'd probably pay that in today's market for either of these two. Can't recommend anyone else and this a pretty hands off club. Again, I don't recommend this club! I only know about it and / or even care at all since it is by far the closest club to me (Desert Flame at be 2nd closest if it even exists anymore definitely don't recommend that one at all).

3. Bridget the little person "feature" dancer at hiliter starting tomorrow through Sunday. I have nothing against little people, but she just wouldn't be for me (to pay to see in a club). She may be cool as a performer and who knows, maybe Ill even see her one time if I start frequently clubbing again and forget to check for a feature in the future. Maybe she'd change my mind. To each is own and definitely not the worst news especially compared to the sugar 44 news!

HL.

[TenSleep]

Was in Arizona visiting a buddy this past week-end. Went to D-backs game and on the way back to Tucson, stopped at Christy's for something to eat and maybe some decent boobs. We were the first guys in the place at 4 pm. Cute blond bartender. We weren't expecting much as far as talent at the start of a Sunday shift.

I was shocked that the first dancer up was exactly what I'm attracted to. Young, petite Mexican girl who also said she answers to Zoe. 19 years old, 5', about 100 pounds, very pretty face and pretty much my fantasy girl. Actually, the first 4 dancers of the day were way better than I was expecting, considering the hour and the day.

Unfortunately, we were short on time, so after I finished eating I approached and asked if she wanted to give me a couple of floor dances. She said they were $10 each, but indicated that for $20, they'd be a little friendlier. I had time for 2. Top came off immediately and she was fine with fondling on hips, butt, stomach. She put her boobs in my face several times and seemed cool about me touching them a little.

I know, normally not a big deal, but I see potential for when I come back for spring training next year. Being Christy's, I know I'll never get Hi-Liter level mileage if I end up taking her to VIP. But man, she was / is in my top 5 good looking dancers in the past 20 years or so of clubbing in Phoenix.

[MedMan1]

Anyone know what is going on? No cars and the parking lot is kinda tore up.

[Heel Lover]

Anyone know what is going on? No cars and the parking lot is kinda tore up.It is closed until the 26th due to a plumbing issue.

[MedMan1]

It is closed until the 26th due to a plumbing issue.Thanks. Good to know.

[Scott Phoenix]

I just joined this site. I live in far North Phoenix and normally go to Candy Store or Crazy Girls Cabaret because they are the only clubs within 15 miles of my house. Is it worth going to Xplicit on a Friday or Saturday evening. I have been there a couple times during the afternoon and it was just the Russian dancer and maybe 1 or 2 other dancers.

[TheComedian]

Another lap to Chicas, same as last time about 130 pm got a few dances from Crystal, huge rack, man made but very soft, and that ass is so thick. Encouraged roaming, but seem to be on autopilot as very uninterested, still not bad by any means so did 2 dances. Next came Estrella, always a great time with her so did 4 dances. I did see Cuban Layla, by far the hottes one but can be pushie, I had turned her down before as she always tries to upsell to add one of her friends or pushes for an extra tip afterwards, she does allow plenty of roaming, even when she's on stage so not necessarily a bad experience. Did one dance and she right away suggested VIP, so I stopped. Saw a couple dancers I never seen before, a thick blonde Cubana, MILF type, didn't get a chance to test the waters as she was called up when she initially approached me, and that was when Estrella stopped by. After that she must have gotten upset as she did not stopped by again even though I tipped her when I saw her on stage again. Another slim A cup cubana stopped by but the first thing she said was "Want a dance" in Spanish so declined. Took off a bit after.

After Chicas I tried to go to Essex and on my way there I saw the signs for Eve's Tease read Open and about 4 cars on the lot so I decided to try but the door was locked.

Got a text from a friend and made plans for lunch. After wards about 5 pm I decided to see if Alondra was working at T&A, so I headed that way. The place looks almost finished but still has bit of work. No Alondra so I decided to hang for a bit. Saw a gorgeous light caramel skinned dancer. But before I could approach the stage another dancer sat next to me. Tall dark chocolate skin, thin, B cups and with long legs, wearing glasses. We started chatting and she seemed very cool. Not pushie at all. About 20 min later it was her turn at the stage. I had not noticed that the club was now almost empty. I focused again on the stage. She can dance. Very nice rhythm. So I tipped her on stage, she bent over and lifted her tiny school girl skirt and proceeded to pulling the g-string to the side to tease. After her set she came back and we talked for another 10 min. She finally asked if I wanted some dances and I agreed immediately. Wow she encouraged my hand to wonder. Smelled great and was very sensual with the dances.I missed my turn for Chicas and pulled a you and noticed Eve's Tease. Stopped in (about 4 cars) and a lady came out getting into a truck. Said they were closed until 8 (said open). Curious about this place since I didn't think there were many nude clubs and this place never came up in my search. Curious what it's like. The lady? I couldn't tell if she was a dancer or what. She looked homeless, clothes dirty but could look good with makeup. Gave me a free pass for entry so will check out. But I'm rarely over there. Just passing though on the way to metro for pool night. Like chicas but would like bude Latinas more.

[DrPoon]

I just joined this site. I live in far North Phoenix and normally go to Candy Store or Crazy Girls Cabaret because they are the only clubs within 15 miles of my house. Is it worth going to Xplicit on a Friday or Saturday evening. I have been there a couple times during the afternoon and it was just the Russian dancer and maybe 1 or 2 other dancers.Consider the CVS sidestreet on 7th Street and Indian School. A bunch of rv's boondocking there. So get an RV and then you can walk to the strip club on 7th street and Indian School NE corner. Plus convenience of CVS for snacks and drinks. Also Panda Express and Jack in the Box for dining, as well, a mere block walking distance.

[DrPoon]

We used to see reports from the Phoenix area Wolfpack consisting of Davephx, Higgs, etc.

[CornholeBi]

Quick trip to catch a D'Backs game solo in a week and a half. I'm staying downtown closeby to the park and knowing how god damn hot it is, seeing if spending some time at a nearby club is worthwhile. Here in Seattle, the clubs with any decent extras are all dayshift and further out from downtown. But since WA state doesn't allow booze in clubs, you're really only there to try and get a nice quickie on a lunch break or something.

Anything worthwhile? I'd be uber'ing if that makes a difference. Already planning at least one outcall visit from a well reviewed provider on TER but if I shouldn't bother at all with the clubs, I'd appreciate the heads up. Thanks.

[Jrcnr]

Quick trip to catch a D'Backs game solo in a week and a half. I'm staying downtown closeby to the park and knowing how god damn hot it is, seeing if spending some time at a nearby club is worthwhile. Here in Seattle, the clubs with any decent extras are all dayshift and further out from downtown. But since WA state doesn't allow booze in clubs, you're really only there to try and get a nice quickie on a lunch break or something.

Anything worthwhile? I'd be uber'ing if that makes a difference. Already planning at least one outcall visit from a well reviewed provider on TER but if I shouldn't bother at all with the clubs, I'd appreciate the heads up. Thanks.My opinion since you said dayshift. HiLiter; best day shift in town.

[DrPoon]

Quick trip to catch a D'Backs game solo in a week and a half. I'm staying downtown closeby to the park and knowing how god damn hot it is, seeing if spending some time at a nearby club is worthwhile. Here in Seattle, the clubs with any decent extras are all dayshift and further out from downtown. But since WA state doesn't allow booze in clubs, you're really only there to try and get a nice quickie on a lunch break or something.

Anything worthwhile? I'd be uber'ing if that makes a difference. Already planning at least one outcall visit from a well reviewed provider on TER but if I shouldn't bother at all with the clubs, I'd appreciate the heads up. Thanks.In Arizona unlike Washington, one cannot go out in the day else will burn up. Thus action is at night here. Arizona has twice the prison per capita rate and most criminal enterprise strip clubs are closed asap.

[Scott Phoenix]

I recently discovered this site, so I need to contribute. I went to Crazy Girls Cabaret Thursday evening. I was expecting to see the 100 Meter sprinter from the local Pac-12 track team. She and her sister Sin were not there. The dancer quality was not very good. I got some $10 floor dances from Deanna and Summer. They are not VIP worthy. I remember coming to this building around 20 years ago when it was Woody'Z Beach Grill Restaurant. The south half of the building which is currently closed off except for some Private VIP dances is where weddings took place on some Saturdays.

I decided to go to the Candy Store. I arrived around 11 PM and paid my $8 entrance fee. Dancer quality was not very good. There were probably 12 dancers and 15 Gents. I noticed Ashley on stage and tipped her. She is from Cuba and moved here around 5 months ago from Vegas where she previously danced. I have gotten VIP dances from her in the past which were good. Her English is not very good and she always over counts dances. When we were in the VIP, she told me "Papi, I do more with you because you shower and put on perfume."

I have not seen the Asian dancers Mimi and Kiki in several months. It is possible they are no longer here. Mimi would give Private Massages during the Covid Shutdown. If you are looking for a dancer to have fun with, Shelby is normally at the Candy Store 2-3 afternoons per week. She previously danced for 8-10 years at Hi Liter. She charges $15 per floor dance and 3 for $100 VIP dances.

I will be going to Sugar 44 this afternoon to spend time with Eureka the Filipina dancer.

[JustinCase69]

I recently discovered this site, so I need to contribute. I went to Crazy Girls Cabaret Thursday evening. I was expecting to see the 100 Meter sprinter from the local Pac-12 track team. She and her sister Sin were not there. The dancer quality was not very good. I got some $10 floor dances from Deanna and Summer. They are not VIP worthy. I remember coming to this building around 20 years ago when it was Woody'Z Beach Grill Restaurant. The south half of the building which is currently closed off except for some Private VIP dances is where weddings took place on some Saturdays.

I decided to go to the Candy Store. I arrived around 11 PM and paid my $8 entrance fee. Dancer quality was not very good. There were probably 12 dancers and 15 Gents. I noticed Ashley on stage and tipped her. She is from Cuba and moved here around 5 months ago from Vegas where she previously danced. I have gotten VIP dances from her in the past which were good. Her English is not very good and she always over counts dances. When we were in the VIP, she told me "Papi, I do more with you because you shower and put on perfume."

I have not seen the Asian dancers Mimi and Kiki in several months. It is possible they are no longer here. Mimi would give Private Massages during the Covid Shutdown. If you are looking for a dancer to have fun with, Shelby is normally at the Candy Store 2-3 afternoons per week. She previously danced for 8-10 years at Hi Liter. She charges $15 per floor dance and 3 for $100 VIP dances.

I will be going to Sugar 44 this afternoon to spend time with Eureka the Filipina dancer.Is the Candy Store up north?

[Scott Phoenix]

Is the Candy Store up north?Candy Store is on the NE corner of Cave Creek and Union Hills.

[Scott Phoenix]

I visited Sugar 44 earlier this month. I arrived around 2 PM. I got some $10 floor dances from Crowley. She is from Hawaii and previously danced at Dirty's. She changed her dancer name a couple months ago to a name that I can't even spell. I got 2 floor dances from Lauren. She is normally here every afternoon during the week.

While I was sitting at my table, Renee, China and Mustang visited me. They took turns sitting on my lap while we talked. I knew all 3 of them when they danced at Christie's on 32nd Street around 2006-2010. Those were the days. All 3 ladies are winners in VIP. I did not see London today. She is normally here 3-4 afternoons per week. London is also a winner in VIP.

[Higgs Boson]

Time flies. I reviewed my unposted notes for the past year or so and most of them are either obsolete or otherwise no longer applicable.

I probably posted this earlier but when it was clear that Covid was transmitted through air / aerosol, the clubs seemed like a bad place to be. It was also about that time a guy I use to work with came down with Covid as did his wife. She survived. He didn't. I put my club visits on hold.

I also don't visit the clubs as much because about 5 1/2 years ago I acquired a SB. That is where my time and money are going now. She's 5'4" and 105 lbs of "goodness gracious!" Is it the perfect arrangement? Of course not but I'm happy with it while it lasts. We didn't see much of each other during worst of the Covid pandemic but resumed with meeting at restaurants with al fresco seating. Our regular meetings continued after we both got our sequence of shots,. There have been occasional commitments in her life which gave me periods to check out some clubs.

I'll try to post another update soon.

Higgs.

[DrPoon]

Time flies. I reviewed my unposted notes for the past year or so and most of them are either obsolete or otherwise no longer applicable.

I probably posted this earlier but when it was clear that Covid was transmitted through air / aerosol, the clubs seemed like a bad place to be. It was also about that time a guy I use to work with came down with Covid as did his wife. She survived. He didn't. I put my club visits on hold.

I also don't visit the clubs as much because about 5 1/2 years ago I acquired a SB. That is where my time and money are going now. She's 5'4" and 105 lbs of "goodness gracious!" Is it the perfect arrangement? Of course not but I'm happy with it while it lasts. We didn't see much of each other during worst of the Covid pandemic but resumed with meeting at restaurants with al fresco seating. Our regular meetings continued after we both got our sequence of shots,. There have been occasional commitments in her life which gave me periods to check out some clubs..Are you and your SB up your fourth vaccine now? Plus this fall President B will mandate the Omicron vaccine.

[RedmondGuy44]

I visited Sugar 44 earlier this month. I arrived around 2 PM. I got some $10 floor dances from Crowley. She is from Hawaii and previously danced at Dirty's. She changed her dancer name a couple months ago to a name that I can't even spell. I got 2 floor dances from Lauren. She is normally here every afternoon during the week.

While I was sitting at my table, Renee, China and Mustang visited me. They took turns sitting on my lap while we talked. I knew all 3 of them when they danced at Christie's on 32nd Street around 2006-2010. Those were the days. All 3 ladies are winners in VIP. I did not see London today. She is normally here 3-4 afternoons per week. London is also a winner in VIP.By any chance does Crowley wear glasses?

[Scott Phoenix]

By any chance does Crowley wear glasses?Crowley does not wear glasses. She is around 35-40 years old.

[Wil5025]

Visited Chica's a couple weeks back. Spent some time with a girl who called herself Jessica. Giant rack. About the same size as Mustang but all natural. Prices these days seem to be a little out of hand, but I had some fun with her. She let my hands roam pretty much anywhere, but I'm a boob guy so that's where I spent my time.

Was wondering if any of you had a line on anyone else with massive tits? Dancer, Massage, Escort. Real or fake. BBW. Doesn't matter. Mustang at S44 has been my go-to for a while, but hoping to find others. The Bigger the better!

[Arizona Junkie]

Big boobs. Bourbon dayshift, look for Jordan, Taylor, Olivia, Jersey, and a few others. Some are there only one or two days per week. Nightshift. Honey has awesome tits, but her ass has grown to match. Hi Liter, don't know as well anymore, but you might get lucky and catch Nicki working, she's seldom there. Several of the Cuban gals have big tits, Kimberley comes to mind. I'm not sure anyone I've listed is bigger than Mustang, that woman is in a class of her own!


Visited Chica's a couple weeks back. Spent some time with a girl who called herself Jessica. Giant rack. About the same size as Mustang but all natural. Prices these days seem to be a little out of hand, but I had some fun with her. She let my hands roam pretty much anywhere, but I'm a boob guy so that's where I spent my time.

Was wondering if any of you had a line on anyone else with massive tits? Dancer, Massage, Escort. Real or fake. BBW. Doesn't matter. Mustang at S44 has been my go-to for a while, but hoping to find others. The Bigger the better!

[MurkinTwats]

Visited Chica's a couple weeks back. Spent some time with a girl who called herself Jessica. Giant rack. About the same size as Mustang but all natural. Prices these days seem to be a little out of hand, but I had some fun with her. She let my hands roam pretty much anywhere, but I'm a boob guy so that's where I spent my time.

Was wondering if any of you had a line on anyone else with massive tits? Dancer, Massage, Escort. Real or fake. BBW. Doesn't matter. Mustang at S44 has been my go-to for a while, but hoping to find others. The Bigger the better!For escorts, try searching Lisa Marie or Shelley on the review boards or here in the escort forum, Lisa has been around forever and has massive tits. Shelley been around for awhile too, also has massive tits. Both have good reviews. Lisa is a stripper, or was, looks like she still runs strip shows and more at her incall.

https://tryst.link/escort/lisamarie-heart

https://tryst.link/escort/shelleybear37

For BBW https://tryst.link/escort/missydeepxxx not my cup of tea, definitely has some big knockers.

[Scott Phoenix]

On Wednesday afternoon, I stopped by Alaska Bush Company. I had not been here since 2018. They had 3 dancers that were attractive and probably under 25 years old. It costs $10 for a bracelet. The $10 dances are away from the main floor and you can touch anywhere above the waist. The Nude side is only open on Thursday, Friday and Saturday evenings after 9 PM.

[Scott Phoenix]

I stopped by Christies during the afternoon earlier this week. They still have $10 floor dances that are ok with the right dancer. I got some $25 VIP dances from Stephanie who is Cuban. Her dances are much better than the other daytime dancers.

[CoolCruiserAZ]

Hey fellas,

I know a few strippers that want me to host another private party. Usually 5-10 guys there and 2-4 strippers. Very beautiful girls and the last event was great. Some offer extras but usually just dances. If that something why'all might be interested in I will either host another one this Saturday or Sunday. PM me!

[Scott Phoenix]

I stopped by Sugar 44 this afternoon Friday. Spent time with London, Crowley and Eureka. Mustang and China were not there today. I only saw 3 customers there today, maybe it had something to do with the Dow dropping over 1,000 points today.

[UaGuy61]

I stopped by Sugar 44 this afternoon Friday. Spent time with London, Crowley and Eureka. Mustang and China were not there today. I only saw 3 customers there today, maybe it had something to do with the Dow dropping over 1,000 points today.Was there a fit white girl there by the name of Salma? I haven't seen her in a while and she was my go to girl for a long time.

[Scott Phoenix]

Was there a fit white girl there by the name of Salma? I haven't seen her in a while and she was my go to girl for a long time.I did not see Salma.

[Gonzilla05]

In town for a bachelor party weekend, was wondering if anyone had any info on the best bang for your buck spots. DM or reply please.

[Heel Lover]

I did not see Salma.Salma was so fine. I doubt she's at 44 anymore, but I haven't heard anything one way or another. I used to check out her Instagram page quite awhile ago, but can't remember what it is anymore.

[Jrcnr]

Gents. Liter was closed earlier today. It was something about electricity. APS truck was there for repairs. Just a heads up!

[Heel Lover]

Gents. Liter was closed earlier today. It was something about electricity. APS truck was there for repairs. Just a heads up!First plumbing issues (recently anyway- I know they've had "other" problems in the past) , and now electrical. At least these issues came up in the summer months and not during the busy / tourist season.

Hopefully they are back up and running soon.

Cheers and safe travels to all.

HL.

[DaveMan69]

Big boobs. Bourbon dayshift, look for Jordan, Taylor, Olivia, Jersey, and a few others. Some are there only one or two days per week. Nightshift. Honey has awesome tits, but her ass has grown to match. Hi Liter, don't know as well anymore, but you might get lucky and catch Nicki working, she's seldom there. Several of the Cuban gals have big tits, Kimberley comes to mind. I'm not sure anyone I've listed is bigger than Mustang, that woman is in a class of her own!If it's the HI Liter Nikki I'm thinking of then I think she's bigger than mustang. (o)(o).

Yes certainly Taylor and Olivia at bourbon are good candidates. Jordan's are big but they are too hard and the rest of her body is also too hard that it's a turn off. There was a night girl at bourbon who's name escapes me now. It's a Greek sounding name as she claims to be Greek also. BIG tits on that one. Suzy at Bandaids has nice real ones for a Latina.

[TylerPerelli]

Fellow mongers, if you go to the Tucson Strip Club forum, I found some old guidelines that were followed back in the good old days.

Do yourselves a favor and take some time to read them. Back then you could get action in the strip club near equivalent to your favorite AMP action today.

[Empire64]

Whats the best clubs in Phoenix / Mesa area for full service in the club? Visiting in a few weeks and couldn't tell. Have heard Jaguar and HiLiter?

[AnalogBoy555]

Does anyone know what happened to Suzy from Bandaids? She has not been there my last three visits.

[Jim2288]

That's not really an option in Phoenix, unfortunately. Trust me, I've tried them all. I've gotten phone numbers from girls in Hiliter, Jags, Bandaids, and Dirty's and met with them later, but never FS in any of those clubs. A few years ago, it was possible with a few girls at Cheetahs, but not anymore. Your best bet is to drive to Tucson and checkout Raiders Reef or Curves.


Whats the best clubs in Phoenix / Mesa area for full service in the club? Visiting in a few weeks and couldn't tell. Have heard Jaguar and HiLiter?

[TylerPerelli]

That's not really an option in Phoenix, unfortunately. Trust me, I've tried them all. I've gotten phone numbers from girls in Hiliter, Jags, Bandaids, and Dirty's and met with them later, but never FS in any of those clubs. A few years ago, it was possible with a few girls at Cheetahs, but not anymore. Your best bet is to drive to Tucson and checkout Raiders Reef or Curves.My journey started in Nogales, then Cabo, then Tucson, and lastly Phoenix.

Sadly, it is a thing of the past in Phoenix.

This could be the dreams or bullshit stories of a braggart, yet it seems fun was had:

Once at Bandaids, a few times at Cheetahs / Amazon, often during daytime at Candy Store, a few times when Centerfolds was topless only, and many times at Hi-Liter.

Again, this was quite a few years ago, or could be total BS. Best bet these days is to try to negotiate outcall with your favorite dancer.

[Scott Phoenix]

Does anyone know what happened to Suzy from Bandaids? She has not been there my last three visits.I saw Suzy 3 weeks ago at Hi Liter. I didn't get any dances from her, but she was popular with the Customers. Really nice upper body.

[Tkdofan]

So, last few months been hitting several clubs, trying to get a general feel for them after Covid closures.

Faves. Bourbon Street, Hi liter.

Not so good. Platinum, BandAids, Cheetahs, S44, Crazy Girls.

Comments on not as good first. And consider that this is primarily focused on things during day / early evening. 1 PM to about 6 PMish. Have been to a couple late night / weekend, but not enough to be accurate yet, so remember this in terms of what I list here.

Platinum. Interior is nice and kitchen special is actually very good. However, very few (2-3) girls in the place. Dances on floor are $10, on a straight backed wall couch. VIP rooms are the standard (time * 10) 15 -150, etc. That does seem to include the rooms and the girls, although as always, more tips are always appreciated. Might be better at night.

BandAids. Hmm, certainly very "friendly" dancers, all waiting to drag you into the VIP section. Dances were $25/ song. More dancers than guys, which was better than most. Just didn't find any I really synced with. Touching is allowed and I'd say, encouraged.

S44 / Cheetahs. Both had only 1 or 2 girls in club the times I went. Don't remember days but around 1-5 PM. Dances are room based, same pricing at Platinum above, although it seemed as maybe the dancers didn't get as much of the cut. (or maybe she just wanted more LOL) Was nice, but very limited selection.

Crazy girls. Similar to above, 2-5 PMish, maybe 5 girls and 7-10 guys. None approached, so no idea of prices.

Faves.

HiLiter. Always seem to have a fairly large number of dancers in the place, even if you get there around opening. By 5 ish, there are definitely more dancers than patrons most times. Dances 10 on floor, 25 VIP. Wide variety of body types, both enhanced and not, and different ethnicity s. Not great on names here, but there is a tall long red haired Cuban here that will definitely be all over you in VIP. Couple of other Latin ones are very nice and active as well. Several white and black dancers as well, that all rotate around and talk to everyone pretty actively. Tammy was nice, older blonde with almost zero body fat and has amazing legs. Kitchen is good as well.

Bourbon St. Usually 4-10 dancers until about 5 ish, then gets more. Do seem to have more based on number to guys in place, so never an issue finding one to talk to. $20 VIP dance in back section. Private room rates seem to be similar to others listed above. Girls all rotate on dance floor a song apiece, then have the rest of the time to "mix". Keira, tall and fun. Zoe, Melissa, Bonnie, Autumn, all thin natural attractive girls, Dakota thin / enhanced, Madison normal sized fun, just to name a few. Many body types / ethnicity s there, and all seem quite willing to approach and talk.

I'm sure this grouping would shift slightly based on night time visits, but just letting you know what I've found over the last few weeks.

[TylerPerelli]

Left off Sugar 44. Also had fun there in the past. Hoping fun in the clubs will circle back around soon.


My journey started in Nogales, then Cabo, then Tucson, and lastly Phoenix.

Sadly, it is a thing of the past in Phoenix.

This could be the dreams or bullshit stories of a braggart, yet it seems fun was had:

Once at Bandaids, a few times at Cheetahs / Amazon, often during daytime at Candy Store, a few times when Centerfolds was topless only, and many times at Hi-Liter.

Again, this was quite a few years ago, or could be total BS. Best bet these days is to try to negotiate outcall with your favorite dancer.

[Bborgtfo]

That's not really an option in Phoenix, unfortunately. Trust me, I've tried them all. I've gotten phone numbers from girls in Hiliter, Jags, Bandaids, and Dirty's and met with them later, but never FS in any of those clubs. A few years ago, it was possible with a few girls at Cheetahs, but not anymore. Your best bet is to drive to Tucson and checkout Raiders Reef or Curves.Are the FS girls usually on an ad too? Or just get their customers through the club? My fav regular was a beautiful thick stripper from an ad. It was full out PSE birth control down for whatever. Then she retired. I.

I miss her. So I want to find one like her again but if they just post ads then the club would be a waste of time. Especially when it's 20 a song that last 35 secs.

[GagooMan]

I was just casually talking to some girl and the bartender in Sugar 44, and I asked if they really like $2 bills.

They said it is a trick by the club to get you to spend more money. They said some clubs in the Phoenix area give out $2 bills as change.

But wouldn't say which places. Anyone know which places uses $2 Bills?

[SonOfA]

I was just casually talking to some girl and the bartender in Sugar 44, and I asked if they really like $2 bills.

They said it is a trick by the club to get you to spend more money. They said some clubs in the Phoenix area give out $2 bills as change.

But wouldn't say which places. Anyone know which places uses $2 Bills?Skin cabaret. I am not aware of any other club that does that.

[Jrcnr]

Skin cabaret. I am not aware of any other club that does that.Skin is the only club; the club and women make more money on tips with $2 instead of $1.

[TylerPerelli]

Skin cabaret. I am not aware of any other club that does that.The two dollar bill thing is a greedy gimmick by Skin Cabaret.

Most advise avoiding the Scottsdale clubs and going to Phoenix clubs.

[Lasvegas318]

In overwhelmingly most cases here in Valley Only way your getting FS is if you have game and manage to get digits to meet up out the club.

Be prepared to shell out either with ducketts, cocaine, or your soul.

Best bet is to make friends with one outside of the club and then go hang out when she is working and make friends with her friends. That path can lead in cases to the Golden Road to her vagine.

[Tetes6921]

As a younger, decent looking guy, my prime years were 08-18-ish. I had the most luck at HL and Bombshells (before switch to S44) ITC. But any club could be good if you befriended the dancers for OTC. Bourbon Street has been the most consistent as far as talent, but always ran a tight and clean ship so you had to befriend women to take anything up a notch. The combination of the rise of online outlets like * law enforcement attention, Cuban invasion, inflation and covid of course have affected Phoenix pretty negatively. I've also become more interested in real world women, so I don't spend as much time in clubs anymore, and I'm less patient. It seems girls aren't as fun anymore, but it could just be my perspective of growing older. Interested to hear others' thoughts on the Phoenix scene.

[Heel Lover]

The two dollar bill thing is a greedy gimmick by Skin Cabaret.

Most advise avoiding the Scottsdale clubs and going to Phoenix clubs.Yes, as the weather cools down and attracts more tourists....... I second the advice to stay the heck away from Scottsdale clubs. I figure most who post on here already know, but tourists may not. Scottsdale has many attractions that are probably worth the money, their strip club scene is not one of them. Don't get lured in by location and / or fancy (fake) advertisements. Rip off central.

Dream Palace in Tempe is even worse (probably one of the worst value clubs in the country) and I don't think anyone who would visit this site would even think about going there, but I'll post this warning to never go there just in case!

Cheers,

HL.

[MyDixieWrecked]

Yes, as the weather cools down and attracts more tourists....... I second the advice to stay the heck away from Scottsdale clubs. I figure most who post on here already know, but tourists may not. Scottsdale has many attractions that are probably worth the money, their strip club scene is not one of them. Don't get lured in by location and / or fancy (fake) advertisements. Rip off central.

Dream Palace in Tempe is even worse (probably one of the worst value clubs in the country) and I don't think anyone who would visit this site would even think about going there, but I'll post this warning to never go there just in case!.I know, but I drive by there a lot and there are always hotties sitting outside talking with doormen and each other. The temptation is high, but I resist.

[Dick North]

Your post reminds me of one of my most disliked humanities classes in college.
As I recall in Homer's Iliad & Odyessy, sailors were attracted to the songs of the 'sirens' on this isolated island and eventually met their demise on the rocks of the island.
Sorry for the digression, but your instincts served you correctly.
DN.


I know, but I drive by there a lot and there are always hotties sitting outside talking with doormen and each other. The temptation is high, but I resist.

[Heel Lover]

I visited earlier this week during the day. This was my favorite place back in the day, but could only seem to make it in at night. I visited last year around this time Of year (but on a sat and around 4) and it was ok I guess, but nothing like I remembered (how good it was) back nights in late 2019.

Anyway on to this recent visit. I thought the dancers were pretty hot. Maybe because it had been a year between club visits haha. It seems like days are the more relaxed way to go now as I had a lot of fun this visit. Probably good for my wallet I don't live close to this place (or get many days off during the week without a million other things to do at least I guess).

Walked in and saw some good looking ladies sitting at the bar. Was happy to see stage was already in use at 1230 or 1245 when I arrived. Maybe that is a good time to arrive as I'm sure they'd still be setting up around opening at 12. I asked the waitress if London was in and she said she was. Tipped her a few dollars and got my bottle of water for five.

I think a Veronica or Victoria was on stage. She was pretty (brunette with big boobs) and introduced herself after her set. Really nice. I told her I had just arrived and was just going to chill for a little bit (I wanted to see London). V as I guess ill call her since I don't really remember was super cool about it and told me to have fun / enjoy my visit kind of thing (I will remember her if I see her again).

Talked with a few other dancers one who was named Pandora. She was nice as well. Anyone know if she gives good dances / vips? By this time London was on stage. I tipped her a few bucks and she said she'd come over to see me in a bit. London was extremely pretty!

I sat back down and Crowley happened to be finishing up dances at the table right next to me. She sat on my lap and was really fun to talk with. Crowley has a new "name" starts with M that doesn't really sound like a dancer name. She was dressed like a naughty police officer as she called it. I thought she was super hot (spinner type, maybe late 30's early 40's very attractive in my opinion) I think she had someone wave her over or I probably would have just asked her for some table dances while waiting for London.

A couple of minutes after she departed, London came over and sat on my lap. It was funny because I had been watching Crowley walk away briefly and was about to look for London right when she came over.

Goodness, and not to book this lady up any more than I'm sure she already is, but London was gorgeous. If I was to be a frequent daytime visitor she would be a must look for / visit if possible. We did do some dances in the VIP behind the bar and then I was on my way. Its too bad (or maybe good for my wallets sake) that these dancers are never nights when I could visit more often (I asked all of them haha).

I would easily spend time with London, Crowley (M is first letter in new name), Victoria and Pandora. I liked all of the dancers there and it was a great variety of body types (meaning some with big boobs, some small, some shorter, some taller, some spinner some curvier etc-all were pretty but definitely a variety). There were probably 10-15 dancers (maybe less than 10 when I first came in) and I stayed a couple of hours although seemed like much less as we all know the time flies saying!

I know this is long and a lot of words, so many may not read all the way to this point. Its unusual to ask with a question too of course. But I will anyway. Anyone have any experiences with Pandora? VIP or otherwise? Pm or post here would be fine.

Cheers gentlemen and enjoy your weekend.

HL.

BTW. There was a super hot dancer named Alexis that stopped by briefly. Brunette with big boobs. I didn't have any interest though as she was wearing god awful pasties!

[Heel Lover]

Should say unusual to end with a?, not ask with a?

Anyway, anyone have any dances or experiences with Pandora at 44 that they would like to share here or in pm (VIP, table dances or just interactions)?

Actually any experiences with anyone on day shift at 44 willing to share would be fine (anything too crazy detail wise probably best for pm). I already like Renee and London and know Mustang is back and is basically a legend but not too familiar with any of the others other than what I've seen here.

Thanks,

HL.

QUOTE=Heel Lover;6181218]I visited earlier this week during the day. This was my favorite place back in the day, but could only seem to make it in at night. I visited last year around this time Of year (but on a sat and around 4) and it was ok I guess, but nothing like I remembered (how good it was) back nights in late 2019.

Anyway on to this recent visit. I thought the dancers were pretty hot. Maybe because it had been a year between club visits haha. It seems like days are the more relaxed way to go now as I had a lot of fun this visit. Probably good for my wallet I don't live close to this place (or get many days off during the week without a million other things to do at least I guess).

Walked in and saw some good looking ladies sitting at the bar. Was happy to see stage was already in use at 1230 or 1245 when I arrived. Maybe that is a good time to arrive as I'm sure they'd still be setting up around opening at 12. I asked the waitress if London was in and she said she was. Tipped her a few dollars and got my bottle of water for five.

I think a Veronica or Victoria was on stage. She was pretty (brunette with big boobs) and introduced herself after her set. Really nice. I told her I had just arrived and was just going to chill for a little bit (I wanted to see London). V as I guess ill call her since I don't really remember was super cool about it and told me to have fun / enjoy my visit kind of thing (I will remember her if I see her again).

Talked with a few other dancers one who was named Pandora. She was nice as well. Anyone know if she gives good dances / vips? By this time London was on stage. I tipped her a few bucks and she said she'd come over to see me in a bit. London was extremely pretty!

I sat back down and Crowley happened to be finishing up dances at the table right next to me. She sat on my lap and was really fun to talk with. Crowley has a new "name" starts with M that doesn't really sound like a dancer name. She was dressed like a naughty police officer as she called it. I thought she was super hot (spinner type, maybe late 30's early 40's very attractive in my opinion) I think she had someone wave her over or I probably would have just asked her for some table dances while waiting for London.

A couple of minutes after she departed, London came over and sat on my lap. It was funny because I had been watching Crowley walk away briefly and was about to look for London right when she came over.

Goodness, and not to book this lady up any more than I'm sure she already is, but London was gorgeous. If I was to be a frequent daytime visitor she would be a must look for / visit if possible. We did do some dances in the VIP behind the bar and then I was on my way. Its too bad (or maybe good for my wallets sake) that these dancers are never nights when I could visit more often (I asked all of them haha).

I would easily spend time with London, Crowley (M is first letter in new name), Victoria and Pandora. I liked all of the dancers there and it was a great variety of body types (meaning some with big boobs, some small, some shorter, some taller, some spinner some curvier etc-all were pretty but definitely a variety). There were probably 10-15 dancers (maybe less than 10 when I first came in) and I stayed a couple of hours although seemed like much less as we all know the time flies saying!

I know this is long and a lot of words, so many may not read all the way to this point. Its unusual to ask with a question too of course. But I will anyway. Anyone have any experiences with Pandora? VIP or otherwise? Pm or post here would be fine.

Cheers gentlemen and enjoy your weekend.

HL.

BTW. There was a super hot dancer named Alexis that stopped by briefly. Brunette with big boobs. I didn't have any interest though as she was wearing god awful pasties!

[Runtk]

Last couple weeks:

S44: first time went during the day on a weekday, a good 5 dancers spent a good grand on VIP and room. Not much to say fairly standard experience at I guess regular prices. Nothing no extras.

S44: second time went during the night on a Friday, ton of dancers spent a good 1500 on VIP and room, same as before standard experience, but with hotter dancers this go around. No extras again.

Bandaids: went during the day on a weekday. Ton of Hispanic chicks fairly attractive 5-8. Spent about 250 on dances. Extras offered in VIP, but wasn't interested. I assume it was just handies for 100.

Cheetahs: first time went during the day on a weekday. Maybe 3 chicks there, spent close to 2000 on dances. Not much to say, most of the girls were below average and the dances were expensive. No extras offered.

Hi-liter: second time in almost a year. Showed up at night on a weekday. Spent between 1000-2000. Tons of attractive dancers as usual. Super boring. Literally handing out 100+ to girls on stage and was promptly treated like I don't exist. Maybe they were busy with regulars? No clue, but after spending that much and being treated like a leper I doubt I'll waste my time or money a third time. No clue about extras, hardly got any dances. (not by lack of effort or spending on my part) Completely different from my first time. Maybe its cause white dancers prefer white patrons and my first time the dancers were more diverse.

Sonny's: went on a weekday on the day shift. Not too many girls but all fairly attractive in strip club lighting. Spent a good 3000. Got lots of attention and dances from a couple girls. No complaints.

No extras either. Complete surprise for me. First time I went it was completely dead.

Not really someone who goes to strip clubs for actual sex. Offers usually come my way if I spend a good bit. Figure you guys might appreciate a report by a non white dude who can spend a good amount.

Strip clubs still seem like a terrible value when it comes to entertainment. Definitely would go to Sonnys again if I wanted to go out to a strip club.

Might take a break from it for half a year or more. So many better things to waste money on.

[TenSleep]

Last couple weeks:

S44: first time went during the day on a weekday, a good 5 dancers spent a good grand on VIP and room. Not much to say fairly standard experience at I guess regular prices. Nothing no extras.

S44: second time went during the night on a Friday, ton of dancers spent a good 1500 on VIP and room, same as before standard experience, but with hotter dancers this go around. No extras again.

Bandaids: went during the day on a weekday. Ton of Hispanic chicks fairly attractive 5-8. Spent about 250 on dances. Extras offered in VIP, but wasn't interested. I assume it was just handies for 100.

Cheetahs: first time went during the day on a weekday. Maybe 3 chicks there, spent close to 2000 on dances. Not much to say, most of the girls were below average and the dances were expensive. No extras offered.

Hi-liter: second time in almost a year. Showed up at night on a weekday. Spent between 1000-2000. Tons of attractive dancers as usual. Super boring. Literally handing out 100+ to girls on stage and was promptly treated like I don't exist. Maybe they were busy with regulars? No clue, but after spending that much and being treated like a leper I doubt I'll waste my time or money a third time. No clue about extras, hardly got any dances. (not by lack of effort or spending on my part) Completely different from my first time. Maybe its cause white dancers prefer white patrons and my first time the dancers were more diverse.

Sonny's: went on a weekday on the day shift. Not too many girls but all fairly attractive in strip club lighting. Spent a good 3000. Got lots of attention and dances from a couple girls. No complaints.

No extras either. Complete surprise for me. First time I went it was completely dead.

Not really someone who goes to strip clubs for actual sex. Offers usually come my way if I spend a good bit. Figure you guys might appreciate a report by a non white dude who can spend a good amount.

Strip clubs still seem like a terrible value when it comes to entertainment. Definitely would go to Sonnys again if I wanted to go out to a strip club.

Might take a break from it for half a year or more. So many better things to waste money on.Holy Cow! $8,000 or so in a couple of weeks worth of strip clubbing! Whatever you do for a living, I need to look into. 8 Grand is pretty much my strip club budget over the course of 6-7 Years! I'm not worthy! .

[Feltch Monkey]

Last couple weeks...Wow! What a crazy report. I wish I had that kind of disposable income!

"Literally handing out 100+ to girls on stage and was promptly treated like I don't exist. " - How is this even possible? Most of these girls are solely in it for the money. Unless this is your pissed-off ex-GF there's no way they knew you were giving out 100's. I'm sure they would have been on your dick working you for more.

5 clubs, 8 K, no extras - even in the VIP rooms! "Strip clubs still seem like a terrible value" - Yep. But they are good for escaping the real world for a while. They are the only place to see tons of hot chicks naked in a short time. And as someone with no game, I love that you can compliment a girl on her sexuality and consistently have her say "Thanks. " If I did that in real life, especially with a stranger it would get uncomfortable for both of us real quick.

My 69th post! Hooray for oral sex!

[Jrcnr]

Holy Cow! $8,000 or so in a couple of weeks worth of strip clubbing! Whatever you do for a living, I need to look into. 8 Grand is pretty much my strip club budget over the course of 6-7 Years! I'm not worthy! .Hmmmm. I do the strips on the reg and to drop that much with not much to no response doesn't make sense. It is my opinion and more so experience to hit a club and spend $20 on each floor dance definitely gets the attention; truly. I don't get it.

[GagooMan]

Was there a fit white girl there by the name of Salma? I haven't seen her in a while and she was my go to girl for a long time.The most fit girl I have seen at 44 is Lily. I only go at night though.

[Daman1973]

I'm glad you guys have had recent good experiences there. I went the other night and thought it was lame. I went late (midnight) and maybe by then they are ready to close, but I maybe saw 8 dancers working. I took my seat and ordered a drink. Had a nice stack of bills on the table in plain sight, ready to initiate some conversations. 5 dancers got on stage, one of which went twice. Not once did a lady come say hi. There was a lot of activity at the bar, but I like the intimate 1 on 1 conversations, not the loud bar noise. Stayed about an hour. The last 25 minutes they just played music with no ladies getting up on stage. There were a few that I was ready to tip accordingly for their dances, but they never got on stage. Tipped my waitress nicely (I wish she would have gotten up on the stage) and left quietly. That's the 2nd time I've been there, and similar experiences both times.

[Scott Phoenix]

I'm glad you guys have had recent good experiences there. I went the other night and thought it was lame. I went late (midnight) and maybe by then they are ready to close, but I maybe saw 8 dancers working. I took my seat and ordered a drink. Had a nice stack of bills on the table in plain sight, ready to initiate some conversations. 5 dancers got on stage, one of which went twice. Not once did a lady come say hi. There was a lot of activity at the bar, but I like the intimate 1 on 1 conversations, not the loud bar noise. Stayed about an hour. The last 25 minutes they just played music with no ladies getting up on stage. There were a few that I was ready to tip accordingly for their dances, but they never got on stage. Tipped my waitress nicely (I wish she would have gotten up on the stage) and left quietly. That's the 2nd time I've been there, and similar experiences both times.The afternoons are better at Sugar 44. The dancer quality in the late evening is not very good.

[Scott Phoenix]

Stopped by Bandaids today Halloween afternoon. I got dances from Suzy and TJ that were good. After Bandaids, I stopped at Hi Liter and the dancer quality was not very good.

[Heel Lover]

The afternoons are better at Sugar 44. The dancer quality in the late evening is not very good.I concur with Scott. I enjoyed my visit a lot in the afternoon.

Late evening is poor, probably bad after midnight. That's how it used to be anyway. The hottest dancers (not all of them of course) come in maybe between 8-11 or midnight. They still want to party somewhere else before bars close is my guess haha.

Daytime has hot milfs that have kids that are probably in school or shared custody kind of thing and they work the days they don't have the kids. Or dancers that just prefer to have somewhat of a normal Monday to Friday shift (say 12-6) with still time to have a pretty normal evening (most were older when I went, but still definitely hot).

[Heel Lover]

I'm glad you guys have had recent good experiences there. I went the other night and thought it was lame. I went late (midnight) and maybe by then they are ready to close, but I maybe saw 8 dancers working. I took my seat and ordered a drink. Had a nice stack of bills on the table in plain sight, ready to initiate some conversations. 5 dancers got on stage, one of which went twice. Not once did a lady come say hi. There was a lot of activity at the bar, but I like the intimate 1 on 1 conversations, not the loud bar noise. Stayed about an hour. The last 25 minutes they just played music with no ladies getting up on stage. There were a few that I was ready to tip accordingly for their dances, but they never got on stage. Tipped my waitress nicely (I wish she would have gotten up on the stage) and left quietly. That's the 2nd time I've been there, and similar experiences both times.I think a lot of dancers leave at 11. Probably already made enough money and still some time to party.

[Heel Lover]

The most fit girl I have seen at 44 is Lily. I only go at night though.I went recently (not enough time to write a review) and did see Lily. Holy crap, you are right. That lady is fit and really hot. She went into the dressing room pretty much right after her set (or could have been VIP) so I didn't get dances or anything / just saw her on stage. But wow I was impressed.

[Scott Phoenix]

I had not been to Xplicit in a long time. I stopped by Wednesday evening. There were about 8 dancers. The dancer quality was poor. Only Royce was attractive and all natural. She has been dancing at various clubs in Phoenix during the last several years. Evening cover is $10. Floor dances are $10. VIP dances are $25 after purchasing a $10 wristband that is good for all night. The upstairs timed area is way too expensive. They stop serving food at 8 PM. Does anyone know what the talent is like on a Friday or Saturday evening. I had some great times at this club several years ago with Jersey, Amanda, Shelby and an Asian lady that I can't remember her name.

[DaDuck]

Went here this week in hopes of seeing my fave Suzy. Luckily she was there but very disappointed with the weight she has put on. Also her willingness to satisfy has decreased and then she asked for a larger tip because she "worked hard". I'm not enthused to see her again.

[Scott Phoenix]

Went here this week in hopes of seeing my fave Suzy. Luckily she was there but very disappointed with the weight she has put on. Also her willingness to satisfy has decreased and then she asked for a larger tip because she "worked hard". I'm not enthused to see her again.Now, I only get floor dances from Suzy. The 2 times that I have gotten VIP dances from her, a friend of her comes into the VIP and wants to join at another $20 per dance. Suzy has really nice nipples. Last Monday, Suzy told me that my favorite dancer at Bandaids Larissa, is no longer dancing.

[AnalogBoy555]

Went here this week in hopes of seeing my fave Suzy. Luckily she was there but very disappointed with the weight she has put on. Also her willingness to satisfy has decreased and then she asked for a larger tip because she "worked hard". I'm not enthused to see her again.So what kind of weight gain we talking on Suzy?

[DaDuck]

I would guess her weight gain at least 30 pounds. I didn't recognize her at first glance. Thighs, hips, belly and face with different look. PG?

[GagooMan]

I went recently (not enough time to write a review) and did see Lily. Holy crap, you are right. That lady is fit and really hot. She went into the dressing room pretty much right after her set (or could have been VIP) so I didn't get dances or anything / just saw her on stage. But wow I was impressed.I went last Friday and Saturday. I'm staying pretty close to there and they let vets in free, so I don't have much to lose. I asked about Lily and I was told she is here but will probably be busy for quite awhile. I'm guessing some guy took her for 30 or 60 minutes. I ended up doing 15 minutes with a woman named Holly. It was OK. The most wild girl I've been with there is Giselle. I won't get in to the details though. Just give her a try. Anyways I saw Lily after I finished my 15 minutes with Holly, and Lily was standing at the bar next to a guy that I guess took her to the VIP. I think he spends lots of money on her, when I saw her and hugged her from behind and said you don't remember me? She did remember me and asked how on my trip was. Then she said she will get back to me later. She just kept talking to the older gentlemen for quite awhile. I ended up leaving and checking out Bandaids. They let vets in for free also.

I've seen Lily there several times and never talked to her, if she doesn't know you she won't approach you like most girls do. After seeing her just sitting at the bar almost in doggy position many times I said "hey, you just going to sit there and look sexy all night?" Well, this led to us talking for quite a bit and did 15 minutes with her. It wasn't bad. She was showing her kitty, but it was too dark to really see. I asked her why she doesn't talk to guys much and she says she doesn't want to get rejected. I said you might make more money if you do, and she said she makes enough.

Anyways, we had a pretty good conversation that first time. She was too busy the last time I saw her last Friday. I stopped by Saturday night and didn't see her, maybe she was busy, I didn't ask. Saturday was really slow, so I went to Bandaids again.

[GagooMan]

I'm glad you guys have had recent good experiences there. I went the other night and thought it was lame. I went late (midnight) and maybe by then they are ready to close, but I maybe saw 8 dancers working. I took my seat and ordered a drink. Had a nice stack of bills on the table in plain sight, ready to initiate some conversations. 5 dancers got on stage, one of which went twice. Not once did a lady come say hi. There was a lot of activity at the bar, but I like the intimate 1 on 1 conversations, not the loud bar noise. Stayed about an hour. The last 25 minutes they just played music with no ladies getting up on stage. There were a few that I was ready to tip accordingly for their dances, but they never got on stage. Tipped my waitress nicely (I wish she would have gotten up on the stage) and left quietly. That's the 2nd time I've been there, and similar experiences both times.This place is very hit and miss. I tend to think Thursdays are better than Friday and Saturday. Fridays can be decent, but Saturdays is almost always slow. I only go at night though.

[BisonHug91]

Been a while since I went. I used to love christies. Anyone gone recently that can share what the selection is like? Young / old / big / small. It's a long drive so I don't want to go if its just big or older ladies. Also, is there any places where the ladies might offer. Extra. Not looking for FS, just head would be perfect. Thanks.

[DddarkLion]

I will be in Phoenix next week, on downtown area, and I would like to have some fun. Any good strip club around you guys recommend?

[DddarkLion]

I will be in Phoenix Downtown next week and would like some recommendation on good clubs to visit.

[Jrcnr]

I will be in Phoenix Downtown next week and would like some recommendation on good clubs to visit.HiLiter.

Chicas (Latin).

Bourbon Street.

[Scott Phoenix]

Been a while since I went. I used to love christies. Anyone gone recently that can share what the selection is like? Young / old / big / small. It's a long drive so I don't want to go if its just big or older ladies. Also, is there any places where the ladies might offer. Extra. Not looking for FS, just head would be perfect. Thanks.Dancers pay a $10 house fee at 11 AM. Dancers pay a $75 evening house fee. Most of the evening dancers are attractive and in their 20's.

[WhoMe111]

I had not been to a club in close to a year and decided to get some entertainment. I used to see China at S44 but having read about their new pricing I decided on BSC. As usual girls don't stop by to offer a dance, I am not overweight, decent looking and well-dressed so I don't understand why they don't stop over. Anyway, I had about finished my beer when a lovely young thing stopped by and offered a dance which I accepted (I don't remember her name). She had beautiful natural C cups which I immediately began to fondle. After a bit I caressed the back of her legs and worked my way up to the top with no pushback. I then moved to the front and slipped a finger into the top of her bottoms and to my surprise she pulled them open for full access. I played with her nice wet (probably sweaty) pussy for the rest of my time and after what I figured was four dances, I called it quits. She said that was four dances for 80 plus tip and suggested 100 which I accepted. That was well worth it for some enjoyable entertainment.

[Scott Phoenix]

I had not been to a club in close to a year and decided to get some entertainment. I used to see China at S44 but having read about their new pricing I decided on BSC. As usual girls don't stop by to offer a dance, I am not overweight, decent looking and well-dressed so I don't understand why they don't stop over. Anyway, I had about finished my beer when a lovely young thing stopped by and offered a dance which I accepted (I don't remember her name). She had beautiful natural C cups which I immediately began to fondle. After a bit I caressed the back of her legs and worked my way up to the top with no pushback. I then moved to the front and slipped a finger into the top of her bottoms and to my surprise she pulled them open for full access. I played with her nice wet (probably sweaty) pussy for the rest of my time and after what I figured was four dances, I called it quits. She said that was four dances for 80 plus tip and suggested 100 which I accepted. That was well worth it for some enjoyable entertainment.I agree with you on BSC having good value with $20 VIP dances and no wristband. You can get 4 VIP dances here for $80 instead of 4 VIP dances at S44 for $100 plus $20 wristband. Another club with good value is Alaska Bush Company. They have $10 VIP dances in the afternoon with a $10 wristband. I was there a couple weeks ago and there were 3 young slim attractive dancers. It is nice to be able to touch all over in the VIP for $10 per song.

[Scott Phoenix]

I was at Hi Liter yesterday afternoon. Dancer quality was good. They were advertising that on December 1st and 2nd, they will be celebrating their 60th anniversary. They are inviting all former Hi Liter dancers to attend. Could be interesting.

[Desert Rat]

I was at Hi Liter yesterday afternoon. Dancer quality was good. They were advertising that on December 1st and 2nd, they will be celebrating their 60th anniversary. They are inviting all former Hi Liter dancers to attend. Could be interesting.I hear they will have one of the original dancers who is 78 years old do a set on the main stage. She will bring her tits out on the stage in a wheelbarrow.

[PoopSnicker]

I hear they will have one of the original dancers who is 78 years old do a set on the main stage. She will bring her tits out on the stage in a wheelbarrow.Nice! Will she offer estras in VIP?

[Heel Lover]

Nice! Will she offer estras in VIP?Funny stuff, great comments from both.

I have a thing for milfs and as I am approaching 50, I am sure I would be ok with some gmilfs (50-60 year old even), but 70's, especially high 70's would be out of my range. Like way out!

I think I just wanted to post this because usually when something is out of my range, its for monetary reasons or on the other end of the age / looks spectrum (I am too old / ugly haha). I don't have enough money to make up for it either. That's why I like the dancers 30-35 plus usually as they are still hot and not really into ripping guys off or trying to. My favorite club has been Sugar 44 and I haven't been to Hiliter since late 2018 I think.

So.

On a serious note, if anyone goes to the 60 year reunion; please post about their experience here! I don't have enough history here to know many of the dancers (I went a few times for features and went a few times otherwise-used to enjoy spending time with a dancer named Ruby and knew who Butterfly was- only saw her once and she was busy the whole night realize I missed out-can't win them all!

Happy holidays all.

HL.

[TheFoo]

Visiting from out of state. Went to Hi-Liter earlier in the week based on the great reports. Fairly attractive girls all around and a few that were 8's and higher. Typical $25 VIP dances from 2 ladies, both were exceptional. Touching is pretty relaxed and the enthusiasm is great. I really wanted to repeat with the first but by the time I was looking for her she was busy with other patrons and suddenly the clock struck 2. Went to Le Girls after that and stayed for probably 15 minutes since there was nothing going on and what the f**k are those prices.

I figured I would visit Hi-Liter another night in hopes of a round 2. Ventured last night and both dancers weren't working and to my surprise this time, there wasn't a single dancer of my type.

I headed out and went to Bandaids which was closing when I got there (around 1230), bouncer said no one was there and I said hey I'm here! But that didn't suffice, LOL.

Stopped by Bourbon next, also closed.

Last stop was Jaguars Phoenix. From the looks of it on the outside I thought I was going to have the time of my life but wrong again. The place was packed and certainly many dancers but none were my type by a long shot. No disrespect but only go there if you're into the heavier ladies.

I was pretty satisfied the first night but headed home feeling empty yesterday.

Any recommendations for a Friday night? Is bandaids worth it during the dayshift?

Feel free to PM me for info on activities in FL.

[Jrcnr]

Visiting from out of state. Went to Hi-Liter earlier in the week based on the great reports. Fairly attractive girls all around and a few that were 8's and higher. Typical $25 VIP dances from 2 ladies, both were exceptional. Touching is pretty relaxed and the enthusiasm is great. I really wanted to repeat with the first but by the time I was looking for her she was busy with other patrons and suddenly the clock struck 2. Went to Le Girls after that and stayed for probably 15 minutes since there was nothing going on and what the f**k are those prices.

I figured I would visit Hi-Liter another night in hopes of a round 2. Ventured last night and both dancers weren't working and to my surprise this time, there wasn't a single dancer of my type.

I headed out and went to Bandaids which was closing when I got there (around 1230), bouncer said no one was there and I said hey I'm here! But that didn't suffice, LOL.

Stopped by Bourbon next, also closed.

Last stop was Jaguars Phoenix. From the looks of it on the outside I thought I was going to have the time of my life but wrong again. The place was packed and certainly many dancers but none were my type by a long shot. No disrespect but only go there if you're into the heavier ladies.I'd head over to HiLiter and Bourbon again. But head over no later than 12 or 1 am if you're needing time to enjoy or play.

[Heel Lover]

I may have asked something similar a couple years ago, but things change quickly and advice can vary.

So.

I used to go quite often to Blue Moon from maybe 2016 to late 2018. It was awesome. Longtime posters / club goers here know that management change ruined that club and it's horrible now.

Dream Palace of course has to be the worst (rip off) in the state and probably one of the worst in the country.

Le Girls from a recent post sounds awful as well (at least pricing).

I went many years ago to ABC and remember stage tipping was fun, but dances were 20 dollars (this was way before crazy inflation of now) and completely hands off. This was way back in the Bush dive days which were a blast and discontinued many years ago (lay head on stage and put your tip money on chest or in mouth and have dancers collect it from your without their hands).

I missed out due to complete lack of funds back in the Rumper Room days haha.

Glad I caught the word of Blue Moon being fun and able to enjoy that back in the day for a few years.

But is there a good or even decent nude club anymore? Or at least one with a day shift that isn't a complete ripoff?

Maybe I've been missing something, but doesn't seem like there is one at all! I don't drink, so no alcohol with nude of course is not a problem / obstacle to me.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations / comments.

HL.

[DrPoon]

A girl who I met and later become a stripper ex post facto reported that the strip club on Central Avenue in South Phoenix is supposedly filled with semi providers who many are pleasantly plump.


I may have asked something similar a couple years ago, but things change quickly and advice can vary.

So.

I used to go quite often to Blue Moon from maybe 2016 to late 2018. It was awesome. Longtime posters / club goers here know that management change ruined that club and it's horrible now.

Dream Palace of course has to be the worst (rip off) in the state and probably one of the worst in the country.

Le Girls from a recent post sounds awful as well (at least pricing).

I went many years ago to ABC and remember stage tipping was fun, but dances were 20 dollars (this was way before crazy inflation of now) and completely hands off. This was way back in the Bush dive days which were a blast and discontinued many years ago (lay head on stage and put your tip money on chest or in mouth and have dancers collect it from your without their hands).

I missed out due to complete lack of funds back in the Rumper Room days haha.

Glad I caught the word of Blue Moon being fun and able to enjoy that back in the day for a few years.

But is there a good or even decent nude club anymore? Or at least one with a day shift that isn't a complete ripoff?

Maybe I've been missing something, but doesn't seem like there is one at all! I don't drink, so no alcohol with nude of course is not a problem / obstacle to me.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations / comments.

HL.

[Dick North]

As many of you know, the T&A club on Central is owned by Chicas on 35th ave.
Some of the dancers from Chicas have migrated to T&A. I have visited several times and had a few dances. The girls are mostly latina and the customers are mostly latino.
Just like Chicas many dancers have limited English skills.

I am always on the lookout for hot AA's, but don't see many there. As I mostly go during daytime. Anyone have tips on some hot AAs?

Dances tho at T&A can be very good.

DN.

[Lyle416]

Haven't been to Chicas in ages (any updates BTW?) but if T&A is anything like it then its worth visiting during the day.

[Dick North]

Haven't been to Chicas in ages (any updates BTW?) but if T&A is anything like it then its worth visiting during the day.My opinion is that T&A girls are a step down from Chicas. I usually visit midweek during the day so maybe evenings are better. But given that it is a rougher area, I will stick to afternoons.

I have become bored with Chicas as they always have the same crew of dancers. Lisi, Crystal, Angel etc but the plus side is that dances are always good.

Anyway I've always known that any club in this town can be hit or miss.

Good Luck.

DN.

[Lyle416]

My opinion is that T&A girls are a step down from Chicas. I usually visit midweek during the day so maybe evenings are better. But given that it is a rougher area, I will stick to afternoons.

I have become bored with Chicas as they always have the same crew of dancers. Lisi, Crystal, Angel etc but the plus side is that dances are always good.

Anyway I've always known that any club in this town can be hit or miss.

Good Luck.

DN.Interesting that the same core is still there. Crystal was for sure a favorite of mine. I'm just hesitant to visit since some of them like to play games and overcharge. But it was the most consistent club in town in terms of mileage when I used to go there.

[Munna25]

Haven't been to Chicas in ages (any updates BTW?) but if T&A is anything like it then its worth visiting during the day.They have some new dancers from time to time, but some are (I don't know names) always there. Now they displaying / scrolling 10 $ table dance on big screens.

I recently seeing Samantha, All natural, and good dances. She is worth it.

Always my go to club.

[Jrcnr]

As many of you know, the T&A club on Central is owned by Chicas on 35th ave.
Some of the dancers from Chicas have migrated to T&A. I have visited several times and had a few dances. The girls are mostly latina and the customers are mostly latino.
Just like Chicas many dancers have limited English skills.

I am always on the lookout for hot AA's, but don't see many there. As I mostly go during daytime. Anyone have tips on some hot AAs?

Dances tho at T&A can be very good.

DN.Hey, I'm into AAs as well as other ethnicity. I go by the HiLiter during the day and there are 3-5 generally there. They're more of a slender to athletic build which I prefer.

[Dick North]

I ventured by T & A today around 1:30 and there were at least 3 hottie AA's. One in particular was my type. Petite, slender & cute.
So I guess Friday is a much better time to visit if you are interested in AA girls.
The problem as I see it tho is that most of the patrons were sticking with the latina girls and ignoring the AA's (except for me!).

I have gotten the impression in the past that Chicas is not too friendly to non-hispanic dancers, but hopefully I am wrong.
Anyway Good luck all.

DN.

[VictorSweets]

Whats the best clubs in Phoenix / Mesa area for full service in the club? Visiting in a few weeks and couldn't tell. Have heard Jaguar and HiLiter?So given that FS in the club seems to be a thing of the past, what is the best option for hot white strippers offering FS outside the club? Definitely don't mind (even prefer) hooking up after they get off work.

[MontataBoy]

I was in the area, had an hour to kill, so I decided to make my first Hi Liter visit. It was a rare dreary cloudy day in the valley of the sun, so I could actually see as I entered. Some tables straight ahead and then the single stage against the back wall. Bar / grill along the right wall (as you enter) and more tables and chairs along the left. About half occupied by dancers. The washrooms are in the back on the left. Private dance booths along the front on the left as you come in. Music was a reasonable level, and even some classic rock for us old guys.

Greeted by a friendly doorman. No I'd check or cover charge on a Sunday afternoon at 3 p. He led me to one of the tables on the left. Within minutes a hot waitress took my order. Two small Kilt Lifter IPA draft beers for $7. She wore a see through mesh thong body suit, was cute, and had butt length brown hair. And was very nice, $2 tip per round.

Settled in and was approached immediately by a 50+ petite asian about a dance. I passed and said maybe later. Got my beers and was approached by Stella. A tall mid-40's brunette with double Ds and a cottage cheese butt. I have that kind of butt at home and see it everyday. I don't want to PAY to see it here. A parade of tatted up Cubans came by but none were me type. I do have to say all the girls were nice when I said "no thank you" and walked away without complaining / attitude.

My time was about half over when the waitress came by to refresh my drinks. She was my type so I asked if she did dances. Sadly she does not. I was beginning to think I was going to leave without a dance when Out of the corner of my eye I saw a cute, petite gal with A / B cups and waved here over. Her name was Andrea, and was Cuban. She said she came to the US as a baby, so her english was good. She was about 5'4" with mid-back brown hair. She had no or not very noticeable tattoos. I'd put her at mid-20's tops.

We started with a floor dance to see if private would be worthwhile. Her grind was top notch and she pulled her cute little boobs out. So after one dance we went to the private booths. She dropped her top and gave me access to her cute little eraser tip nipples. The excellent grind continued and her leg was used to make sure I was at full attention. Was fine with hands everywhere except under her thong. Went three dances and brought it to an end as I had to go. One floor and three private dances for $85. Gave her $100 total and hit the road. Will return when nearby.

[Lyle416]

Whats the best clubs in Phoenix / Mesa area for full service in the club? Visiting in a few weeks and couldn't tell. Have heard Jaguar and HiLiter?Did you have any luck? FS at Jaguars? Interesting never heard that before. It’s virtually a make it rain party club so I have my doubts about FS there

[Lyle416]

How does the evening / night crew compare to the day shift?

[Jim2288]

Went to Bandaids for the first time in a long time. It's closer to my office than my favorite spot (HiLiter).

Got there around 3:30. No shortage of Cuban girls trying to sell you on the VIP dances. I went back to the VIP with 2 different girls, and both were more friendly than I remembered from that place. Got a few HJ's. The first one actually finished me off. She asked for an extra $100 on top of the VIP dances (total for one girl was $160 and $140 for the other girl). Around 5 or 6 the more friendly day shift went home and we were left with a less friendly night shift. Tried a few dances from the night shift and didn't get the same service I got from the day shift.

It was the most action I've gotten in a Phoenix strip club in a long time.

[TenSleep]

Went to Bandaids for the first time in a long time. It's closer to my office than my favorite spot (HiLiter).

Got there around 3:30. No shortage of Cuban girls trying to sell you on the VIP dances. I went back to the VIP with 2 different girls, and both were more friendly than I remembered from that place. Got a few HJ's. The first one actually finished me off. She asked for an extra $100 on top of the VIP dances (total for one girl was $160 and $140 for the other girl). Around 5 or 6 the more friendly day shift went home and we were left with a less friendly night shift. Tried a few dances from the night shift and didn't get the same service I got from the day shift.

It was the most action I've gotten in a Phoenix strip club in a long time.The obvious question is "What did they look like? I'm usually in Phoenix for spring training every March and we usually stop in at Bandaids once or twice a week in late afternoon for a beer or 2. We consider it "slumming" but at this point it's a tradition to stop at least once.

In nearly 20 springs of hitting Bandaids (which feels more like a clubhouse than a strip club to me) I've seen exactly 3 dancers who were attractive enough to get a dance from. One was an outstanding little spinner in her early 20's, with a high quality VIP effort, about 3-4 years ago. The other 2 were a high 5 or a low 6. Everybody else I've ever seen there ranges from slightly overweight to very overweight.

So, back to the question. Chubby moms or young, hot spinners?

[Jim2288]

The obvious question is "What did they look like? I'm usually in Phoenix for spring training every March and we usually stop in at Bandaids once or twice a week in late afternoon for a beer or 2. We consider it "slumming" but at this point it's a tradition to stop at least once.

In nearly 20 springs of hitting Bandaids (which feels more like a clubhouse than a strip club to me) I've seen exactly 3 dancers who were attractive enough to get a dance from. One was an outstanding little spinner in her early 20's, with a high quality VIP effort, about 3-4 years ago. The other 2 were a high 5 or a low 6. Everybody else I've ever seen there ranges from slightly overweight to very overweight.

So, back to the question. Chubby moms or young, hot spinners?Fair question. Most are thicker Latina mom types. I don't mind thicker Latinas. Not a big fan of really thin small spinner types. But 1 of the 2 was hot (mid 20's, flat stomach, pretty face) - I thought she was the hottest in there and I'm sure you would get a dance from her. Wish I had caught her name. The other was thicker and more of a chubby mom (wasn't exactly sober by this point).

[Higgs Boson]

I see I last posted about 5 months ago expecting to post with more updates.

My SB has had to take care of professional education over the past few months so sometimes she's unable to meet. That's when I've hit the clubs.

These overview posts aren't meant to be comprehensive or detailed. They are impressionistic and reflects my preferences and desires. Your experiences, desires, and preferences will likely be different (YMMV, etc). Comments welcome.

In 2022 I visited Essex, Dirty's, Alaskan Bush, Crazy Girls, Centerfolds, Bandaids, and Bourbon Street. Brief stop at the Candy Store. Out of these 8, I was offered "take out" at 5 of them. I don't usually do VIP dances at any club but have made exceptions. More often in 2022. Sometimes I've regretted it for, let's say, lack of quality or my general disappointment. My opinions below, your experience may be different, you're allowed to disagree.

I should say I don't do the clubs in Scottsdale (Bones, Skin, Dream Palace). Nipple coverings and air dances aren't of interest to me on the first two. Also, good guidance from Dick North and Heel Lover especially regarding Dream Palace. More on that another time. Geographic boundary note: Christie's is actually in Guadalupe. I see there are Chicas fans here but it's a low priority for me after they "purged" almost all AA dancers. Sugar 44 won't be discussed (sorry, Heel Lover and BigTim). Sugar never did it for me but I really enjoyed our time there as a group.

I rarely do daytime visits. Almost all after 8 PM.

An interesting development over the last 10 years are the number of cuban dancers. They used to be a novelty but now they seem to be everywhere. They're often the ones trying to drag you into the VIP area.

Clubs not in any particular order starting with. 
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Essex.

Various changes at Essex since reopening. No radical changes in layout but they've instituted various rules. For example that area directly across from the bar that is a step or two higher that the floor. I used to get fantastic semi-private dances for $10 there. It is now reserved for VIP / groups. I got chased out of there by a security guy just as I got settled in with a hottie. The change was explained plus I was told that all the tables with candles were "reserved". Whatever that means. Anyway, if a table doesn't have a candle, it's available unless already occupied. And all the places with couches / booths, etc. Are VIP of some sort.

On one visit to Essex about eight months ago I broke three of my own rules / guidelines with a single dancer. My opinions below, your experience may be different, you're allowed to disagree.

- No VIP. It's rarely better that a floor lap dance at the right club and dancer.

- No augmented body parts, particularly boobs or butts. I like the feel of the real thing.

- No out of town dancers. I know some people here have other experiences but based on my observations, they have little incentive for a good experience. They think they'll never see you again after that evening and take offense at wandering hands. Local dancers hope you'll return for another great experience.

That said, one evening I got approached by a thick but not fat latina by the bar about going to the VIP. Augmented boobs, and extra padding in the buttocks. Maybe plumped up lips too. Said she was from Las Vegas and visiting family in Phoenix. My brain said no, but she stuck out her tongue and I swear it reached below her chin. Little Higgs said, "Let's Go! I cut my losses after a couple dances.

Subsequent visits to Essex were terrific. There were always some gem who got my engine revving. Also, met a dancer who, after Essex closed, moved to Centerfolds for the truly late night / early morning crowds. I'm sure there are others who do the same.

Next installment soon. Probably later this week.

Higgs.

[TylerPerelli]

Recently some mongers mentioned missing the Blue Moon of a couple years back.

Has anyone ventured to Blue Moon recently? Any news, good or bad?

Anyway, at Sugar 44, it seems one can have an experience similar to the BM days of old.

A couple dancers even have lotion on hand.

Granted, it is topless versus nude, yet the dancers are higher on the looks scale.

Also, wasn't it 3 songs for. 46 back in the day?

Very interesting how things at clubs valley wide have changed over the last 15-20 years.

Anyone been to Candy Store recently? My time has been spent at Sugar and Hi-Liter.

No fun recently at Hi-Liter. Just interviewing outcall prospects and getting lots of GPS answers.

Luck recently changed and I may have found a couple spinners with reasonable rates.

Happy mongering to all. Hope to see more reports.

[Scott Phoenix]

I see I last posted about 5 months ago expecting to post with more updates.

My SB has had to take care of professional education over the past few months so sometimes she's unable to meet. That's when I've hit the clubs.

These overview posts aren't meant to be comprehensive or detailed. They are impressionistic and reflects my preferences and desires. Your experiences, desires, and preferences will likely be different (YMMV, etc). Comments welcome.

In 2022 I visited Essex, Dirty's, Alaskan Bush, Crazy Girls, Centerfolds, Bandaids, and Bourbon Street. Brief stop at the Candy Store. Out of these 8, I was offered "take out" at 5 of them. I don't usually do VIP dances at any club but have made exceptions. More often in 2022. Sometimes I've regretted it for, let's say, lack of quality or my general disappointment. My opinions below, your experience may be different, you're allowed to disagree.

I should say I don't do the clubs in Scottsdale (Bones, Skin, Dream Palace). Nipple coverings and air dances aren't of interest to me on the first two. Also, good guidance from Dick North and Heel Lover especially regarding Dream Palace. More on that another time. Geographic boundary note: Christie's is actually in Guadalupe. I see there are Chicas fans here but it's a low priority for me after they "purged" almost all AA dancers. Sugar 44 won't be discussed (sorry, Heel Lover and BigTim). Sugar never did it for me but I really enjoyed our time there as a group..Higgs, thanks for the info. During the last few months, I have been going to Hi Liter in the afternoons and BSC in the evenings. I stopped going to Platinum Plus because they raised their floor dance price to $20 each with no touching and upstairs VIP dances to $30 each. I also go to Bandaids less since Larissa left. If you want to know anything about Bandaids, ask TJ who wears the Superman Outfit.

[Higgs Boson]

Higgs, thanks for the info. During the last few months, I have been going to Hi Liter in the afternoons and BSC in the evenings. I stopped going to Platinum Plus because they raised their floor dance price to $20 each with no touching and upstairs VIP dances to $30 each. I also go to Bandaids less since Larissa left. If you want to know anything about Bandaids, ask TJ who wears the Superman Outfit.Thanks for the feedback. I hope to post "Part Deux" of my 2022 overview in a couple days. Life interferes with these noble pursuits. Bandaids is perhaps my fave Valley club and I've seen more multiple interior remodels there. I'll mention it in part 3 or 4.

Higgs.

[Heel Lover]

Recently some mongers mentioned missing the Blue Moon of a couple years back.

Has anyone ventured to Blue Moon recently? Any news, good or bad?

Anyway, at Sugar 44, it seems one can have an experience similar to the BM days of old.

A couple dancers even have lotion on hand.

Granted, it is topless versus nude, yet the dancers are higher on the looks scale.

Also, wasn't it 3 songs for. 46 back in the day?

Very interesting how things at clubs valley wide have changed over the last 15-20 years.

Anyone been to Candy Store recently? My time has been spent at Sugar and Hi-Liter.

No fun recently at Hi-Liter. Just interviewing outcall prospects and getting lots of GPS answers.

Luck recently changed and I may have found a couple spinners with reasonable rates.

Happy mongering to all. Hope to see more reports.Blue Moon used to be 3 for 46 for a shall we say hands on experience. It was incredible value.

The dancers were of course not anywhere close to Bourbon Street Circus "model" quality, but I didn't think they were ugly by any means either.

Nowadays, I hear it is almost like a clip joint. Awful value trying to sell an hour VIP experience for like a thousand dollars!

I don't think they are even open daytime anymore. But even if they are, I've heard it's completely a place to avoid regardless of hours.

I don't think there are any nude clubs in AZ worth a shit anymore unfortunately. I also am unsure if there even is a nude club open during day shift (I know le girls and ABC are open, but I think topless side only). If anyone has any info on nude clubs that are good (especially if open during the day like Blue Moon was), please post here or message me. I live in East Valley so anything in the West valley is too rare especially for dayshift. I just don't think there ever will be a (nude) replacement for good ole BM back in the day!

[Heel Lover]

Blue Moon used to be 3 for 46 for a shall we say hands on experience. It was incredible value.

The dancers were of course not anywhere close to Bourbon Street Circus "model" quality, but I didn't think they were ugly by any means either.

Nowadays, I hear it is almost like a clip joint. Awful value trying to sell an hour VIP experience for like a thousand dollars!

I don't think they are even open daytime anymore. But even if they are, I've heard it's completely a place to avoid regardless of hours.

I don't think there are any nude clubs in AZ worth a shit anymore unfortunately. I also am unsure if there even is a nude club open during day shift (I know le girls and ABC are open, but I think topless side only). If anyone has any info on nude clubs that are good (especially if open during the day like Blue Moon was), please post here or message me. I live in East Valley so anything in the West valley is too rare especially for dayshift. I just don't think there ever will be a (nude) replacement for good ole BM back in the day!Switch the word far for rare in that last paragraph!

[Slider42]

I stopped by there a month back at 10:40 pm and was informed they are open from 11 pm to 5 am. I left.

Even if your balls are swolen and hurting it will be minor pain compared to your cash stash.

Earlier last year I tried the 15 minute VIP which was a complete letdown.

No touching of the goods and a constant upsell to the 1 hour for somewhere around a grand.

Shit, for that hire an escort for 2 hours AND get a room for the whole night and still have enough for breakfast the next morning.

I suggest they rename it Blue Balls.

[Lyle416]

Currently the clubs I have had the most success with in terms of mileage have been Chicas and Bandaids day shift. These are my top two for now.

If Sugar44 offers an old school Blue Moon feel then I need to start going there lol

[Scott Phoenix]

Stopped by this afternoon after visiting Hi Liter and Dirty's. There were 4 dancers there. They all looked nice and slim. You pay $10 for a one time wristband. VIP dances are $10 each with plenty of touching. I stop at GABC every 4-6 weeks and have not had a bad experience yet during the last 6 months. Note: I got $10 floor dances at Dirty's from 3 ladies and 2 of them did not remove their top.

[Heel Lover]

No, not a video game cheat code or a football play call, but rather a question.

At the sweet place on 44th and Thomas, I saw an exotic looking black haired beauty whose name starts with D and has something in common with Puff the magic or Spyro.

Just wondering if anyone had any VIP encounters with her they'd be willing to share (pm if really good story / news).

Also Angel at the same place was a really hot dancer and would like any info on her as well. Angel only did VIP (no floor dances) but was super nice and fun to talk with. I didn't go vip.

Onragd (ok I just made the easiest word scramble ever!) I saw only as I was about to leave unfortunately. I saw both on a Saturday night but its been almost 2 months now (was the weekend before Thanksgiving).

Thanks in advance for any info or any other recommendations at the sweet place on Thomas (I rarely can make afternoon shift and mainly only sat nights)!

HL.

[Heel Lover]

I stopped by there a month back at 10:40 pm and was informed they are open from 11 pm to 5 am. I left.

Even if your balls are swolen and hurting it will be minor pain compared to your cash stash.

Earlier last year I tried the 15 minute VIP which was a complete letdown.

No touching of the goods and a constant upsell to the 1 hour for somewhere around a grand.

Shit, for that hire an escort for 2 hours AND get a room for the whole night and still have enough for breakfast the next morning.

I suggest they rename it Blue Balls.Yep such a shame. Hell for a grand could probably have a threesome with two pretty good looking ladies.

Blue Moon 1 hour with one for 1 k with unknown action. Haha used to be 3 for 46 (I had two dulse and Clover for double once) for a very shall we say hands on, very high mileage experience.

[Heel Lover]

Stopped by this afternoon after visiting Hi Liter and Dirty's. There were 4 dancers there. They all looked nice and slim. You pay $10 for a one time wristband. VIP dances are $10 each with plenty of touching. I stop at GABC every 4-6 weeks and have not had a bad experience yet during the last 6 months. Note: I got $10 floor dances at Dirty's from 3 ladies and 2 of them did not remove their top.Good info. Thanks.

[Jrcnr]

Stopped by this afternoon after visiting Hi Liter and Dirty's. There were 4 dancers there. They all looked nice and slim. You pay $10 for a one time wristband. VIP dances are $10 each with plenty of touching. I stop at GABC every 4-6 weeks and have not had a bad experience yet during the last 6 months. Note: I got $10 floor dances at Dirty's from 3 ladies and 2 of them did not remove their top.You're saying VIP dances are only $10 per dance; aside from the $10 one time entry?

[WhoMe111]

What's with all the code talk?


No, not a video game cheat code or a football play call, but rather a question.

At the sweet place on 44th and Thomas, I saw an exotic looking black haired beauty whose name starts with D and has something in common with Puff the magic or Spyro.

Just wondering if anyone had any VIP encounters with her they'd be willing to share (pm if really good story / news).

Also Angel at the same place was a really hot dancer and would like any info on her as well. Angel only did VIP (no floor dances) but was super nice and fun to talk with. I didn't go vip.

Onragd (ok I just made the easiest word scramble ever!) I saw only as I was about to leave unfortunately. I saw both on a Saturday night but its been almost 2 months now (was the weekend before Thanksgiving).

Thanks in advance for any info or any other recommendations at the sweet place on Thomas (I rarely can make afternoon shift and mainly only sat nights)!

HL.

[Scott Phoenix]

You're saying VIP dances are only $10 per dance; aside from the $10 one time entry?Jrcnr, I have never been there at night so I do not know what the VIP prices are then. During the day, the VIP prices are $10 per song in a private area to the left of the stage. You must also purchase a 1 time wristband for $10.

[Heel Lover]

What's with all the code talk?Was just trying to be funny, no real reason.

I like the dancer name Dragon as I've never heard that one before and I definitely liked her. She was busy (not on the floor) most of the time I was there and then I had to leave. I'm not sure if she was in VIP as she may have just been hanging out in the dressing room. I should have asked her for dances the time I saw her on stage, but I messed up I guess. Looking for info on Sugar 44 especially at night (who gives good vips) if anyone knows.

I thought the two prettiest The night I went were Dragon and Angel. Another dancer, Chantel, said she only did VIP dances but wasn't very flirtatious or anything so I barely talked to her. I don't remember much about her other than her name and that she said she didn't do any floor dances.

VIP (at night anyway) now 25 per song and the same 20 dollar per night (if using VIP) wristband.

HL.

[TreyMc]

Was picking up some things from the Autoparts store across the street tonight and saw Ash Lounge. Never thought much of it when I've driven by during the day, but it had titty-bar lights on it tonight. Looking at their Instagram feed, it's clearly a titty bar. Or a bar with Latinos with big titties.

Anyone been in and have any experience on the interior talent, odds on extras, etc?

[Scott Phoenix]

When I was driving in Scottsdale this afternoon, I saw a Party Bus that had Showtime Cabaret written on the side. It also said $5 Lap Dances. I looked it up and it is on the west side on McDowell road. Anyone been to this place.

[MyDixieWrecked]

Was picking up some things from the Autoparts store across the street tonight and saw Ash Lounge. Never thought much of it when I've driven by during the day, but it had titty-bar lights on it tonight. Looking at their Instagram feed, it's clearly a titty bar. Or a bar with Latinos with big titties.

Anyone been in and have any experience on the interior talent, odds on extras, etc?The place has been their for decades. Under a bunch of different names (I haven't been since it was cheetahs, or something like that.).

I saw some biker bouncers beating the crap out of a guy one night. Who was clearly drunk and helpless. I never went back. I'm not saying it is still that way, I mean they are open, so they have customers and dancers. But, yes, it is a topless bar.

[KrawlerNyte]

Was just trying to be funny, no real reason.

I like the dancer name Dragon as I've never heard that one before and I definitely liked her. She was busy (not on the floor) most of the time I was there and then I had to leave. I'm not sure if she was in VIP as she may have just been hanging out in the dressing room. I should have asked her for dances the time I saw her on stage, but I messed up I guess. Looking for info on Sugar 44 especially at night (who gives good vips) if anyone knows.

I thought the two prettiest The night I went were Dragon and Angel. Another dancer, Chantel, said she only did VIP dances but wasn't very flirtatious or anything so I barely talked to her. I don't remember much about her other than her name and that she said she didn't do any floor dances.

VIP (at night anyway) now 25 per song and the same 20 dollar per night (if using VIP) wristband.

HL.If Pixie still works, she is a solid bet as S44. She'll act offended if you ask but then go for it anyways.

[Red5643]

Question for those who have been to Platinum Plus on 32nd / Washington: do they monitor / manage the premises well? It seems like a nice club, but is in a rough area. Drove through the other day and a homeless guy was sitting on one of the light posts in the parking lot. It's close to my office so I want to give it a shot; I'm just not interested in my car getting broken into / busted up.

[CoolCruiserAZ]

Trying to find out where she dances at in the valley!

[CoolCruiserAZ]

Hey this a stripper in Az with 3 snakes on her arm and a big chest tattoo and a sun tattoo on her shoulder. . Been trying to find out where she dances for the longest. Anyone come across her.

[Bigboobs]

Trying to find out where she dances at in the valley!She looks like she about to give a Blow Job in a video booth. Love the trash can next to her. A pic of 2 cum dumpsters.

[Heel Lover]

If Pixie still works, she is a solid bet as S44. She'll act offended if you ask but then go for it anyways.I saw Pixie Halloween weekend on the Saturday before Halloween. She wasn't in my last visit back in mid November (when I saw Dragon and Angel). Hoping to visit again next month. Pixie was pretty hot. She did a cool burlesque type show around Halloween (she left shortly after I arrived so I never talked with her). I heard from some others that she's a bit crazy with some of the things she says in VIP (and not necessarily in a good way to me at least). Like I'll rip your balls off kind of talk!

[KrawlerNyte]

I saw Pixie Halloween weekend on the Saturday before Halloween. She wasn't in my last visit back in mid November (when I saw Dragon and Angel). Hoping to visit again next month. Pixie was pretty hot. She did a cool burlesque type show around Halloween (she left shortly after I arrived so I never talked with her). I heard from some others that she's a bit crazy with some of the things she says in VIP (and not necessarily in a good way to me at least). Like I'll rip your balls off kind of talk!She can be incoherent at times but I never had anything agressive. First time in the champagne room she was open and closed when it came to how she be touched, but the chat was mild. At the end of our time she decide he wanted BBFS and took it so that was a nice surprise.

[Heel Lover]

Maybe searching needle in a haystack kind of thing, but are there any nude clubs open during the day (not named Dream Palace as I will never go there)?

Damn, I miss the Blue Moon of the old days! Used to be a great go to on random days off and the "smaller" holidays such as President's day etc.

[ShotCaller12]

Hey guys, now that the Super Bowl, Phoenix Open, and Barrett Jackson are done and over with, which clubs give you the most bang for your buck? What's the best club for the average joe working guy? I understand, like everything else in life, it's pay to play but some of these clubs are wanting you to drop almost a grand for a night out. I'm looking for a club where you can have a few hours of fun for a couple hundred bucks. Any help would be greatly appreciated?

[Munna25]

Hey guys, now that the Super Bowl, Phoenix Open, and Barrett Jackson are done and over with, which clubs give you the most bang for your buck? What's the best club for the average joe working guy? I understand, like everything else in life, it's pay to play but some of these clubs are wanting you to drop almost a grand for a night out. I'm looking for a club where you can have a few hours of fun for a couple hundred bucks. Any help would be greatly appreciated?I suggest you try Chicas, and Bandaids. They are best bet. You can check dirty too.

[RZM1231]

I concur with the views on the Blue Moon. I also remember the glory days of the day shift, Dulce, Clover Bubbles, Keiko and Russia. I have been avoiding this place but my curiosity got the best of me a couple of weeks ago. Ventured in at around 11 ish. Many very good looking dancers, but most were just sitting in the back, only one ventured to offer me the tour of the place, which I immediately declined. After that she promptly departed. I enjoyed the stage show where a model type petite ebony dancer was doing her set. She was a solid 9/10, super cute and Young, claimed to be 20 and she definitely fit it. Chatted her up for a bit and she seemed very chill but sure enough soon the tour was brought up again. She mentioned times such as 15 for 300. I liked this girl so I refrained from right out laughing. After that I heard 600, then a thousand, that was my cue. I again declined and decided to take off. One thing that stood out to me was that another patron apparently asked one of the talents to take a picture with her, so the talent proceeded to ask the girl that was in charge and she told her in Spanish, "tell him it's 100". I mean the $20 cover already seems high to me as most other places are at 12 or 15 tops, heck Bandaids is 6 on the weekdays. Anyhow I don't see how people keep coming here. I sure as heck won't be back, I'll stick to Chicas and Bandaids, in the worst case scenario I'll go to T&A.

Speaking of the Chicas, I happen to stop by on a Wednesday afternoon. The Cubans still have a strong hold over this place, I did a couple of dances with Sophia / Crystal. MILF type cubana, she reminded me of the Mexican porn star Kari Cachonda. She is very friendly and chill plus roaming is encouraged. Then I spotted Layla, by far the hottest of the Cubans, but can be bitchy and has in the past tried to upcharge. I tipped while on stage but she did not approach me. She must have remembered that I would not fall for her "charms. " Still took the tips on stage with a smile and even proceeded to kiss me. Then my fave Estrella stop by. Can't never go wrong with her. So I did 4 then called it a day.

On a different Wednesday night I stopped by Bandaids, not much happened this night, met a fair skin dancer by Gipsy. Very cute, tall and thick. She was kind enough to sit and chat. That completely natural pair of hers was amazing, got a couple of dances on the floor and then took off since I only had about 45 min. Nothing much different today.

The following week on a Thursday, I stopped by Chicas again, got dances for Estrella and another petite blonde Cubana, can't remember her name but she is a MILF time hottie, fair skin, can't be more then 5' 1" she also allows roaming. Stay safe.

[Heel Lover]

I concur with the views on the Blue Moon. I also remember the glory days of the day shift, Dulce, Clover Bubbles, Keiko and Russia. I have been avoiding this place but my curiosity got the best of me a couple of weeks ago. Ventured in at around 11 ish. Many very good looking dancers, but most were just sitting in the back, only one ventured to offer me the tour of the place, which I immediately declined. After that she promptly departed. I enjoyed the stage show where a model type petite ebony dancer was doing her set. She was a solid 9/10, super cute and Young, claimed to be 20 and she definitely fit it. Chatted her up for a bit and she seemed very chill but sure enough soon the tour was brought up again. She mentioned times such as 15 for 300. I liked this girl so I refrained from right out laughing. After that I heard 600, then a thousand, that was my cue. I again declined and decided to take off. One thing that stood out to me was that another patron apparently asked one of the talents to take a picture with her, so the talent proceeded to ask the girl that was in charge and she told her in Spanish, "tell him it's 100". I mean the $20 cover already seems high to me as most other places are at 12 or 15 tops, heck Bandaids is 6 on the weekdays. Anyhow I don't see how people keep coming here. I sure as heck won't be back, I'll stick to Chicas and Bandaids, in the worst case scenario I'll go to T&A.

Speaking of the Chicas, I happen to stop by on a Wednesday afternoon. The Cubans still have a strong hold over this place, I did a couple of dances with Sophia / Crystal. MILF type cubana, she reminded me of the Mexican porn star Kari Cachonda. She is very friendly and chill plus roaming is encouraged. Then I spotted Layla, by far the hottest of the Cubans, but can be bitchy and has in the past tried to upcharge. I tipped while on stage but she did not approach me. She must have remembered that I would not fall for her "charms. " Still took the tips on stage with a smile and even proceeded to kiss me. Then my fave Estrella stop by. Can't never go wrong with her. So I did 4 then called it a day.

On a different Wednesday night I stopped by Bandaids, not much happened this night, met a fair skin dancer by Gipsy. Very cute, tall and thick. She was kind enough to sit and chat. That completely natural pair of hers was amazing, got a couple of dances on the floor and then took off since I only had about 45 min. Nothing much different today.

The following week on a Thursday, I stopped by Chicas again, got dances for Estrella and another petite blonde Cubana, can't remember her name but she is a MILF time hottie, fair skin, can't be more then 5' 1" she also allows roaming. Stay safe.Shame what happened to Blue Moon. I used to go on the smaller holidays (in terms of family events etc) such as Presidents Day. Clover and Dulce were amazing! I didn't get the pleasure of meeting the other three you mentioned. But I did get a two girl "dance" from Clover and Dulce once. Incredible. Dirty talk from both. They played around with each other. Amazing HJ from Dulce (a real pro) and Clover did that trick of hers where she would wrap her leg around the lucky customers leg (me). I could touch anywhere I wanted for both for the three songs and it was 95 dollars only!

Now it's 100 for a damn picture!

I also had a couple great Individual sets of 3 "dances" from Lilly and Ebonie as well as individual ones from Dulce and Clover on my many visits (wasn't always the small holidays, sometimes just a random day off). Both Lilly and Ebonie were incredible as well. Ebonie was my first there and made the get to know you shall we call it process very easy (I was really, really nervous on my first visit). Those were the days!

[TylerPerelli]

During Superbowl / Barret-Jackson Auto Auction / Waste Management Phoenix Open Golf Tournament the VIP entry fee at Candy Store was raised from $20 to $60…not certain if they've returned to normal.

It has been confirmed that VIP dances at Hi-Liter have increased from $25 to $30 per dance.

[TylerPerelli]

Sugar parking lot was almost full. Must have been the dancers, as there were customers, yet not crowded.

Nice variety of ladies. Grabbed a couple dances from an attractive mixed dancer.

Instead of Hi-Liter, decided to give Bandaids a shot. There were ZERO dancers I felt the urge to ask for a dance. Finally did one dance. There may have been three dancers I would even consider and they were below average. The rest could have offered free dances and I would have declined. The door hostess and bartender coming on shift were the only attractive ladies in the place.

Hope to see more reports from the clubs. Mongers, where ya at?

[Higgs Boson]

The Hi Liter.

BigTim has been nudging me to continue writing about my 2022 experiences. Especially covering my changing viewpoints about Bourbon Street and Bandaids. That will have to wait. Meanwhile I'll continue with recent visits to The Hi Liter.

The Hi Liter was my first ever Phoenix strip club experience and I've made many trips there. That started long ago, shrouded by the mists of time. These were my first visits after closures due to COVID, plumbing issues, and the, let's say, overly affectionate VIP dances legal problems.

I made three consecutive Saturday visits there this year: the Saturday night before the Superbowl weekend, the Saturday night before the Superbowl, and the Saturday night after the big game.

Rather than using a week to week narrative, let's go to the information probably of most interest here: as of that last visit, VIP dances are $40/ song. Yes, that's FORTY DOLLARS, per song.

Table dances are still $10/ song but beware: there are dancers who will say $20/ song after you're done. This happened to me on that third visit. Instead of arguing about it, I paid her for the two or three dances then walked over and checked with the security guys standing by the VIP area. They confirmed $10 for a table / floor dance. They also pointed to the sign saying $40/ dance for VIP.

Referencing the security guys watching VIP, there isn't much privacy for customers in that glassed-in section parallel to the street. Those guys were locked-in on checking the behavior of customers / dancers inside.

As happens in many clubs, a good looking dancer would hop on my lap and ask if I wanted a dance. I say yes, and she attempts to lead me to VIP. Or she immediately leaves if I say No to VIP. No VIP for me here.

As expected for this club, dancers are perhaps 80-90% white or pale latina. I thought I saw a couple asian, perhaps 3-4 black / AA. Few dancers with augmented body parts With a couple of exceptions, all deflected touching of breasts during table dances. Those exceptions were very brief and discrete. Touch of nostalgia: the table / lap dances were not as hot as I remember from, say, 5 years ago.

Today's local paper front page article headline "More Cubans are settling in Arizona" should not be a surprise to regular customers of Phoenix area strips clubs. (Related article on page 5 b). What started as somewhat a novelty about four years ago at some clubs (Bandaids and Chicas, for example), they work in every club I've visited in 2022 and 2023.

The Hi Liter is not a exception to this cuban trend. Got non-VIP dances with three cuban dancers. The current group of cubans generally have unenhanced body parts and that is very good IMO. Maybe that's more to do with the club's hiring criteria.

Final notes: I couldn't even get a table the Saturday night before the Superbowl. The place filled quickly. I ended up buying tequila shots at the bar for myself and a couple dancers who were sidelined. There was talk that evening VIP was $50/ dance and table dances were $20.

Higgs.

[RWolt60]

Are there any totally nude strip clubs in the Phoenix area. I just got into town and was curious about this. If there are, where do you recommend?

[Heel Lover]

Are there any totally nude strip clubs in the Phoenix area. I just got into town and was curious about this. If there are, where do you recommend?Let me start by saying we used to have an awesome! One in Blue Moon. Oh the good ole days. Many threads on here about that place. Damn I miss it! Oh it's still around, but rip off city!

And my best advice. Stay the Hell away from Dream Palace! Worst club in the state and has to be one of the worst in the country.

Clubs that are nude here are Alaskan Busch Company and Le Girls. In both- Half of the place is nude and half is topless. Nude side only open at night and these are in very sketchy areas (at least Alaskan Busch). I think you only pay one cover, but the nude side dances are very expensive (watched like a hawk at Alaskan Busch, which is funny because the topless side is good value from what I've heard). Le Girls is very expensive, but the dancers from what I've heard are very hot. Le Girls I think is open during the day, but is just topless until nighttime.

There is also a place around 35th-38th ave maybe called Eve's Tease. Only open night shift. Now that area was sketchy as fuck even 25 years ago (I used to play indoor soccer during the summer right next to it and games were at night-mens league and only place back in the day) so I can't recommend that place just to be on the safe side. I have no idea of the quality of ThE dancers. I do know even 25 years ago, that area was like don't be low on gas, check your tire pressure and tread and get the fuck out of there once the games were over (or at least once you hit the parking lot). I had a really, really shitty looking car back in those days which was probably a great thing! I'm not kidding.

I would like to go to a good nude club, but don't know of any here either (anymore ever since change at old reliable day club Blue Moon). And I've been clubbing here for nearly 30 years!

Whatever you do-stay the Hell away from Dream Palace! You've been warned if you decide to go.

I'd be interested in hearing other's info. I don't think any nude clubs are even open during days anymore, except the aforementioned awful Dream Palace. AZ is horrible when it comes to nude clubs! Maybe I'm missing something?

[TomasNomas]

Let me start by saying we used to have an awesome! One in Blue Moon. Oh the good ole days. Many threads on here about that place. Damn I miss it! Oh it's still around, but rip off city!

And my best advice. Stay the Hell away from Dream Palace! Worst club in the state and has to be one of the worst in the country.

Clubs that are nude here are Alaskan Busch Company and Le Girls. In both- Half of the place is nude and half is topless. Nude side only open at night and these are in very sketchy areas (at least Alaskan Busch). I think you only pay one cover, but the nude side dances are very expensive (watched like a hawk at Alaskan Busch, which is funny because the topless side is good value from what I've heard). Le Girls is very expensive, but the dancers from what I've heard are very hot. Le Girls I think is open during the day, but is just topless until nighttime.Eves Tease was the first strip club I went to when I turned 18. Back in the 80's it was legal to drink and go to a strip club when you turned 18. I grew up not far from there and I learned that is amazing how fast your paycheck can disappear when you went to a strip club. The person who wrote the post was right, it was a tough area to go to even 40 years ago. The dances were $5 each and because it was my 18th birthday they were free for a few rounds then I had to pay. Also, the Great Alaskan Bush Company was in a little strip mall near 43rd ave down the street before it moved to where it is now. I don't go much anymore but if I do I go to Bliss at 19th ave and Deer Valley which isn't very good but I have a friend who loves it so we meet there from time to time.

[Heel Lover]

Eves Tease was the first strip club I went to when I turned 18. Back in the 80's it was legal to drink and go to a strip club when you turned 18. I grew up not far from there and I learned that is amazing how fast your paycheck can disappear when you went to a strip club. The person who wrote the post was right, it was a tough area to go to even 40 years ago. The dances were $5 each and because it was my 18th birthday they were free for a few rounds then I had to pay. Also, the Great Alaskan Bush Company was in a little strip mall near 43rd ave down the street before it moved to where it is now. I don't go much anymore but if I do I go to Bliss at 19th ave and Deer Valley which isn't very good but I have a friend who loves it so we meet there from time to time.Yeah that area around 35th ave and Indian school was insane. I used to know I was close / right next to the indoor sports facility when I saw the strip club lights basically next door haha (games were at night and no GPS or internet back then so you used whatever you could for directions).

I played several years in the soccer league (from age 16 to 21 or 22) and was tempted to go to that club in late 90's (my last years playing), but I wasn't that crazy. I did some dumb things back in those days, but made sure not to hang around that area.

Funny thing was most of the guys knew each other and would look out for each other after the games (even opponents). One game. In summer of 93 I think- I still remember playing a team unfamiliar to any of the regular teams there.

We ended up getting in a bench clearing brawl near the end of the game (or at least their bench came onto the field and tried to fight us haha). Even their coach came out of the bench area and stormed to our bench. Big mistake. We were much bigger and he was lucky we just pushed him away and held him. We could have done some serious damage to the older guy.

We were ahead on the scoreboard and the refs just called the game and we kept the win. I don't know if the other team had anybody who would be suspended, just knew our team wouldn't.

Didn't really think about it and just let it go as one of those things (I was 18 and not easily bothered by other teams being stupid once the games ended).

Only thing that sucked was some of our guys left right after the game (it was probably 10 or 11 pm at that point) and some of us including me wanted to watch the next game as we had some friends on other teams.

Turned out the other team we just played had some guys waiting around for us and word was they were going to jump us in the parking lot (if we didn't all leave together or in a group at least). I was like fuck, I just want to watch this other game. But I used common sense even at 18 (kind of like how I avoided that club nearby). Left with the rest of my teammates because I wasn't going to be THE guy who got jumped by 5 or 6 guys.

Thankfully only time a situation like that occured in all my years of playing (with lots of crazy things happening but usually to other teams). And. Knock on wood. Never had a problem in a strip club even in some sketchy places and / or out of state unfamiliar situations.

[WhoMe111]

I have given up on all the other clubs in central Phx after reading about the price increases. BS still has the best looking dancers in town for $20 VIP (no table dances). I didn't have a lot of time and was looking for a sweet little thing with B / C naturals. I lucked out when this lovely little Asian thing showed up. After talking I realized I had seen her before (college student comes over from CA for short visits) We went up stairs and I had 4 dances (limited budget). She allows full contact up top and some play inside the g-string. I tipped an extra 20 to help her college fund.

To my knowledge there are no extras at BS but you get a enjoyable dance from a very attractive young lady. I don't understand why anyone would go to a club (like Bandaids) and pay a high price for extras from an overwieght unattractive dancer in an uncomfortable setting. If I want that I will take my money to a nice looking provider or AMP (Tops / Great) and know what I will get. Just my opinion.

[Scott Phoenix]

I have given up on all the other clubs in central Phx after reading about the price increases. BS still has the best looking dancers in town for $20 VIP (no table dances). I didn't have a lot of time and was looking for a sweet little thing with B / C naturals. I lucked out when this lovely little Asian thing showed up. After talking I realized I had seen her before (college student comes over from CA for short visits) We went up stairs and I had 4 dances (limited budget). She allows full contact up top and some play inside the g-string. I tipped an extra 20 to help her college fund.

To my knowledge there are no extras at BS but you get a enjoyable dance from a very attractive young lady. I don't understand why anyone would go to a club (like Bandaids) and pay a high price for extras from an overwieght unattractive dancer in an uncomfortable setting. If I want that I will take my money to a nice looking provider or AMP (Tops / Great) and know what I will get. Just my opinion.I also like the lovely Asian college student from UCLA. She stays with a friend of hers when she is in town. Her friend also dances at BSC.

[TenSleep]

I also like the lovely Asian college student from UCLA. She stays with a friend of hers when she is in town. Her friend also dances at BSC.I just got back from Phoenix. Did not realize that BS actually had an upstairs that allowed for decent mileage. Might have to check that out next year.

[SonOfA]

I just got back from Phoenix. Did not realize that BS actually had an upstairs that allowed for decent mileage. Might have to check that out next year.It's not what you think, it's like 2 stairs up to the VIP area.

[Heel Lover]

I just got back from Phoenix. Did not realize that BS actually had an upstairs that allowed for decent mileage. Might have to check that out next year.Maybe it's just up the few steps to the VIP? But I don't know, its been a little over 3 years since I've been in (I saw Jordan a few times during the day and went in once at night late 2019).

[Scott Phoenix]

Maybe it's just up the few steps to the VIP? But I don't know, its been a little over 3 years since I've been in (I saw Jordan a few times during the day and went in once at night late 2019).Bourbon Street does not have an upstairs. The VIP area is about 3 feet higher than the main floor.

[WhoMe111]

Bourbon Street does not have an upstairs. The VIP area is about 3 feet higher than the main floor.There is an area along the side that is separate which I have never visited but looking in there it looks like there are separate booths. Activity could not be observed unless someone walked in and walked right up to a booth. However I have never seen anyone go in there but I only visit during the day.

[SonOfA]

There is an area along the side that is separate which I have never visited but looking in there it looks like there are separate booths. Activity could not be observed unless someone walked in and walked right up to a booth. However I have never seen anyone go in there but I only visit during the day.Those are the champagne rooms. You rent those by the hour with a mandatory bottle purchase.

[Tetes6921]

There is an area along the side that is separate which I have never visited but looking in there it looks like there are separate booths. Activity could not be observed unless someone walked in and walked right up to a booth. However I have never seen anyone go in there but I only visit during the day.The area along the side I've been in a few times. Usually it's opened when the club is packed and VIP area is full. There are I believe two private "champagne" rooms just off the VIP area by entering a door to a private room. I tried this area once but didn't really get anything more than VIP other than more privacy. YMMV.

[TenSleep]

It's not what you think, it's like 2 stairs up to the VIP area.That's what I thought. Was up there once with a dancer, it was nothing special. Only thing different than a floor dance was that she let my put my hands on her boobs. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Jim2288]

I went to the Hiliter a few nights ago. My favorite club in PHX.

The bad:

The first girl I got dances from (can't remember her name. Hispanic girl with black stockings) seemed ok so we went to the VIP.

After what felt like 3 dances, she told me I had gotten 5 dances.

I didn't count, so I didn't argue with her and just paid it.

About 30 minutes later, I went back to the VIP with the same girl and she told me it was six dances.

I actually counted. It was only 4 dances.

I can't stand being ripped off like that so I told her it was only 4 dances.

She argued with me about it and I said it was fine, I'd pay it, but she won't get anymore dances from me.

She came back 5 minutes later and said she checked with the bouncer and I was right. It was only 4 dances.

But she was just trying to get back in my good graces so I'd hangout with her longer. But that was it for me.

The good: Roxanne.

I met a small Hispanic girl named Roxanne in white thigh high boots.

She was a lot of fun. Highly recommend spending time with her.

I enjoyed chatting with her and she gives good floor dances and VIP's.

The best part was that she was honest about the number of dances.

She never pressured me or tried to up sell anything.

She is drama free and fun to hangout with.

[Bobby4567]

For an older senior what would be the best strip club to attend that's safe and not a rip off. I will be staying in the Scottsdale area.

Thanks.

[WhoMe111]

For an older senior what would be the best strip club to attend that's safe and not a rip off. I will be staying in the Scottsdale area.

Thanks.Definitely "Bourbon Street Circus" 28th St & Thomas.

Best looking dancers, no floor dances but $20 VIP dances with plenty of touching but no "extras".

[DirtyDeedsDone]

Definitely "Bourbon Street Circus" 28th St & Thomas.

Best looking dancers, no floor dances but $20 VIP dances with plenty of touching but no "extras".Is there any playtime in any of the Phoenix clubs, other than a little dick touching? Tucson still has ALL of that and a few bags of chips.

[Heel Lover]

For an older senior what would be the best strip club to attend that's safe and not a rip off. I will be staying in the Scottsdale area.

Thanks.AVOID the Scottsdale clubs (Skin Bones) whatever you do. Also never even set foot in Dream Palace (Tempe).

If looking for the prettiest dancers (in my opinion) and a chill environment where you are not likely to get ripped off, I agree with previous post that Bourbon Street Circus is a good choice.

If going during day shift (technically afternoon of course), I always liked Jordan. Now that lady is anything but natural so wouldn't recommend if you want natural tits. I've heard she is now on her 3rd set of tits (always bigger). I saw her years ago when I think she was only on her first set. They were huge then, so I could only imagine now!

There is also an Olivia there that I hear is just beautiful. My friend was telling me about her. Unfortunately, I can't remember which shift she works (I've never seen her). Maybe others can chime in regarding Olivia (or any other dancers they recommend as well).

Have a great weekend.

[Heel Lover]

Is there any playtime in any of the Phoenix clubs, other than a little dick touching? Tucson still has ALL of that and a few bags of chips.Pm me if anyone knows any "good" dancers for VIP in phx clubs especially at Sugar44. I am just getting back into going to clubs, but have been going to 44 (although not VIP on most recent visits) as it is my favorite. I used to go to VIP there quite often, but that was precovid and all the dancers I went VIP with have left (mainly Q).

I know Hiliter is close by (to Sugar44), but they've also raised the VIP price to 30 per dance from what I've heard. And possibly 40 per dance after 9 pm-so I'll be staying away from there at least for now.

A lot of clubs are pretty far for me as I live in East Valley (and already know Sonnys is not good).

[DaveMan69]

AVOID the Scottsdale clubs (Skin Bones) whatever you do. Also never even set foot in Dream Palace (Tempe).

If looking for the prettiest dancers (in my opinion) and a chill environment where you are not likely to get ripped off, I agree with previous post that Bourbon Street Circus is a good choice.

If going during day shift (technically afternoon of course), I always liked Jordan. Now that lady is anything but natural so wouldn't recommend if you want natural tits. I've heard she is now on her 3rd set of tits (always bigger). I saw her years ago when I think she was only on her first set. They were huge then, so I could only imagine now!

There is also an Olivia there that I hear is just beautiful. My friend was telling me about her. Unfortunately, I can't remember which shift she works (I've never seen her). Maybe others can chime in regarding Olivia (or any other dancers they recommend as well).

Have a great weekend.I can report first hand that my current favorite is Olivia at Bourbon. Imagine a tall beautiful short haired brunette with one of the best pair of D cups, fit body (not hard like Jordan), and a perky ass. Well that's Olivia. And to top it off she has a GREAT personality and attitude. Again unlike Jordan and her business like dance. It's a pleasure to get your hands on Olivia's gorgeous tits and slowly lick and on her pert nipples. She is a day girl to about 4 pm or so and I believe pretty much Fridays and Saturdays only. Enjoy!

[WhiteSun777]

I went to the Hiliter a few nights ago. My favorite club in PHX.

The bad:

The first girl I got dances from (can't remember her name. Hispanic girl with black stockings) seemed ok so we went to the VIP.

After what felt like 3 dances, she told me I had gotten 5 dances.

I didn't count, so I didn't argue with her and just paid it.

About 30 minutes later, I went back to the VIP with the same girl and she told me it was six dances.

I actually counted. It was only 4 dances.

I can't stand being ripped off like that so I told her it was only 4 dances.

She argued with me about it and I said it was fine, I'd pay it, but she won't get anymore dances from me.

She came back 5 minutes later and said she checked with the bouncer and I was right. It was only 4 dances.

But she was just trying to get back in my good graces so I'd hangout with her longer. But that was it for me.
Yup I can't stand dancers trying to rip customers off!! It's crazy and most of the time they get away with it. I always throw a fit whenever they try this bs. I still recall getting 3 floor dances supposed to be 10 each the dancer told me I owe her $90, I'm like GTFO. Told her ass to get the manager and she never did. Another time I already paid the dancer but she was high as a kite, insisted that I never paid her and won't leave me alone. I'm like go get the manager, sure enough manager came back and found the money I gave her as they were crisp 20's I just got from ATM.

[Heel Lover]

I can report first hand that my current favorite is Olivia at Bourbon. Imagine a tall beautiful short haired brunette with one of the best pair of D cups, fit body (not hard like Jordan), and a perky ass. Well that's Olivia. And to top it off she has a GREAT personality and attitude. Again unlike Jordan and her business like dance. It's a pleasure to get your hands on Olivia's gorgeous tits and slowly lick and on her pert nipples. She is a day girl to about 4 pm or so and I believe pretty much Fridays and Saturdays only. Enjoy!Thanks for this post! Great info. I don't really have a schedule that allows me to go at those times, but I will have to try sounds like! I may have some time in a couple of months on a Friday or two. My friend (he goes mostly days to clubs, so her schedule makes sense and why I've never seen her) was telling me about her last weekend.

Cheers!

[WhoMe111]

Pm me if anyone knows any "good" dancers for VIP in phx clubs especially at Sugar44. I am just getting back into going to clubs, but have been going to 44 (although not VIP on most recent visits) as it is my favorite. I used to go to VIP there quite often, but that was precovid and all the dancers I went VIP with have left (mainly Q).

I know Hiliter is close by (to Sugar44), but they've also raised the VIP price to 30 per dance from what I've heard. And possibly 40 per dance after 9 pm-so I'll be staying away from there at least for now.

A lot of clubs are pretty far for me as I live in East Valley (and already know Sonnys is not good).I used to go to S44 to see China but finally gave up because she was never there. Your best bet is Bourbon Street not far from S44. Best looking dancers for $20 VIP (no floor dances) Plenty of contact but no extras.

[Arizona Junkie]

Add me to the chorus of Olivia fans, she is without a doubt one of the hottest dancers in Phoenix. She usually works Friday and Saturday at Bourbon from 11 am until mid-afternoon. In my experienced opinion, she has one of the absolute most perfect breast enhancements. Ever. Tits on a stick, but wonderfully shaped teardrops that feel incredible and make her overall form just unbelievable.

There are plenty of other hotties at Bourbon. The aforementioned Jordan is always fun if you are a boob guy. Also on dayshift. Dallas, Taylor, Kat, and others are more than worth spending $20/ song in VIP. Nightshift has not returned to its former pre-COVID glory, but there are a few playmate-quality gals to check out. Bunny, the perfect blonde is very popular. Scarlett, Emma, Bentley, Susanna the hot Cuban blonde, and many more. Bourbon Street is like walking into the Playboy mansion. Lower mileage overall, but unparalleled eye candy from wall to wall.


I can report first hand that my current favorite is Olivia at Bourbon. Imagine a tall beautiful short haired brunette with one of the best pair of D cups, fit body (not hard like Jordan), and a perky ass. Well that's Olivia. And to top it off she has a GREAT personality and attitude. Again unlike Jordan and her business like dance. It's a pleasure to get your hands on Olivia's gorgeous tits and slowly lick and on her pert nipples. She is a day girl to about 4 pm or so and I believe pretty much Fridays and Saturdays only. Enjoy!

[Papa Rotzi]

Yup I can't stand dancers trying to rip customers off!! It's crazy and most of the time they get away with it. I always throw a fit whenever they try this bs. I still recall getting 3 floor dances supposed to be 10 each the dancer told me I owe her $90, I'm like GTFO. Told her ass to get the manager and she never did. Another time I already paid the dancer but she was high as a kite, insisted that I never paid her and won't leave me alone. I'm like go get the manager, sure enough manager came back and found the money I gave her as they were crisp 20's I just got from ATM.I tell the girl upfront that because of the songs and fun we're having, I don't want to short change her and therefore will take a 1 dollar bill out of my pocket and have HER place it on the table before each new song starts. When we are done, she can count the singles and I will pay based on that, plus she keeps the singles. Saves a lot of bickering and I don't have to play he said, she said anymore.

[HardanFast]

This is great advice. I have tried many other techniques, most without great success. I suppose the girl could still claim she misunderstood some way or just flat out lie to management, saying she performed more dances than the dollar bills represented, but this is the best suggestion I have ever heard.


I tell the girl upfront that because of the songs and fun we're having, I don't want to short change her and therefore will take a 1 dollar bill out of my pocket and have HER place it on the table before each new song starts. When we are done, she can count the singles and I will pay based on that, plus she keeps the singles. Saves a lot of bickering and I don't have to play he said, she said anymore.

[TenSleep]

This is great advice. I have tried many other techniques, most without great success. I suppose the girl could still claim she misunderstood some way or just flat out lie to management, saying she performed more dances than the dollar bills represented, but this is the best suggestion I have ever heard.I've had success with telling her, before the dances start, stop when we get to 100 bucks or when we get to $150. Tell me the moment I owe her that much, then we'll decide if we want to continue. So far, I feel like I've always gotten my moneys worth of time.

[HardanFast]

I have tried that and have been successful about 80 percent of the time. Other times, they have simply not stopped until I say, which is when I know the number of songs is up. And they simply say it was 6 instead of 4, etc. When that happens, though, it is the last time I will get a dance from them and will let them know that. You also cannot put the money up front or they will just stop early and say the time is up, so that will not work either. The technique using the ones seems to be better than anything else I have heard about or tried. I guarantee it will be what I try next time.


I've had success with telling her, before the dances start, stop when we get to 100 bucks or when we get to $150. Tell me the moment I owe her that much, then we'll decide if we want to continue. So far, I feel like I've always gotten my moneys worth of time.

[DirtyDeedsDone]

I have tried that and have been successful about 80 percent of the time. Other times, they have simply not stopped until I say, which is when I know the number of songs is up. And they simply say it was 6 instead of 4, etc. When that happens, though, it is the last time I will get a dance from them and will let them know that. You also cannot put the money up front or they will just stop early and say the time is up, so that will not work either. The technique using the ones seems to be better than anything else I have heard about or tried. I guarantee it will be what I try next time.If you give them the money up front then they'll know they have it and in most cases will do less than what was discussed. That's why they get the treat after the "act" is performed.

[HardanFast]

I decided to expand my horizons beyond Hi-Liter and Chica's, so I wandered over to BSC. I was mainly intrigued by the reports that said BSC has the best looking girls, hands down. I would have to agree with those assessments, but there was not quite as much difference as I expected in the looks category. While I was there, I got several dances with about four or five different girls. My experience was very similar to what others have reported. One was mostly an air dance, but she was really hot and, at the 20 per song, I thought the dance I got was OK. Most of the others allowed touching most everyplace, except the parts that clothes covered. Everyone has been adamant about absolutely zero extras being available, but I did find one that let me touch lightly under the bikini down below, but I think that may be very much a YMMV thing. I also hope to cultivate that one in hopes of OTC, which she has initially agreed to. Please understand that I am keeping her name under wraps, at least for now, since I do not want to screw up what may be an opportunity for me. If it does work out for OTC, I may then be willing to share the name with trusted seniors. As far as the others, nothing was really memorable or distinguishable from one to another, so I did not remember names. There are a couple of things this club has going for it, though. First, I did not see any sign of the pushy, occasionally annoying Cubans. Second, every single time, I got the full number of songs I paid for without question, even when I feigned that I lost count just to verify. That alone is a big plus since I have run into dance count inflation or attempts at it several times, particularly at Chicas and with some of the Cubans there. Overall, a good time that did not break the bank.

[SantaGun]

BSC: About 6 girls taking the stage in turns, one called Honey seemed aloof and approached none of the tables after her dance. Others were all in the 7-8 on 10 range and pretty friendly, mostly white I think there was one Asian mixed in Polynesian. The pick of the lot for me was Fiona, amazing MM boobs, 9. 5 face, 10 body. Great grinding skills, beautiful ass that fit her frame perfectly. Did a few dances with her.

Bandaid: 6-8 dancers, mostly out of shape old milfs, lobe exception was a slightly younger I. E. Late 30's MILF Azul (cuban?) High mileage VIP dance with plenty of roaming. Then there was Delicious who was light skinned black with pretty face, big ass and A cups. Lot of roaming by her and me, only thing she did not seem comfortable with was FIV so the most I had on the trip.

All 3 were good and worth repeating but Fiona stood out on hotness, Delicious for flirtiness and Azul for overall value.

[Riffraff26]

Been offered take out a few times here. Always feel like I'm paying for WAY more dances than I'm getting. Last time I was there I came home smelling like HOE and my sig-o was NOT happy. Way too much perfume. Favorite dancers with mileage here?

[Azbow]

.... Late 30's MILF Azul (cuban?) ....I have been to Bandaids the last 2 Wednesday and did not see Azul. Which day of the week were you there?

Also, anyone knows if Estrella still works at Bandaids? Thanks in advance for any info.

[Mrmikers]

I have been to Bandaids the last 2 Wednesday and did not see Azul. Which day of the week were you there?

Also, anyone knows if Estrella still works at Bandaids? Thanks in advance for any info.I have not seen Estrella there in a long time. Also, I have not seen some of the other long-time, regular (and fun) girls like Suzy and Carol there in recent weeks. A couple of the new girls that I have tried in the VIP did not provide the same level of service that I am used to. Disturbing. I don't know Azul.

[SantaGun]

I have been to Bandaids the last 2 Wednesday and did not see Azul. Which day of the week were you there?.It was Monday and I've only been there a couple of times 2-3 months ago, but could not recognize anyone. Missed Jasmine / Jessica (not sure about the name but started with a J) who used to wait the tables around the stage, give a relatively low mileage but full contact dance for $30 (more than standard) made totally worth it by her pretty face and banging hot body.

[Papa Rotzi]

Been offered take out a few times here. Always feel like I'm paying for WAY more dances than I'm getting. Last time I was there I came home smelling like HOE and my sig-o was NOT happy. Way too much perfume. Favorite dancers with mileage here?I will not name names, but several girls will do take out, but you better have a high ATM limit if you decide to pull one. $600 to $1,000 seems to be the asking price. Not worth that to me when better are available off of SB or SA sites for less dinero.

[GinAndTonic888]

The sign at Sonny's says offering summer part time to teachers. Got me to thinking, does anyone actually know if any teachers dance during summer vacation at Sonny's or any other establishment?

[Heel Lover]

The sign at Sonny's says offering summer part time to teachers. Got me to thinking, does anyone actually know if any teachers dance during summer vacation at Sonny's or any other establishment?They do that every year around this time.

[IndianaJones]

Been offered take out a few times here. Always feel like I'm paying for WAY more dances than I'm getting. Last time I was there I came home smelling like HOE and my sig-o was NOT happy. Way too much perfume. Favorite dancers with mileage here?I get that feeling a lot there too. Any insight as to the ladies offering?

[Sveetoh]

Been offered take out a few times here. Always feel like I'm paying for WAY more dances than I'm getting. Last time I was there I came home smelling like HOE and my sig-o was NOT happy. Way too much perfume. Favorite dancers with mileage here?During the pandemic a redhead from there was offering takeout, at a really good rate $. 8 for an hour. She's gone silent in the last year however and I don't see her at the club. Assuming she moved somewhere else.

I've had girls give me contact info for takeout there but none have ever responded other than "working today why not come in and talk to me during dances" standard marketing they do.

[OrangeGoku]

I'll be on AZ for the summer and wondering which strip coins were the best to go to. I'm looking for affordable rates but also hit girls. I'll be in Phoenix but plan on spending time in Apache junction. I don't really Like Latinas I'm only looking for white girls.

Can anybody do a break down of the club names and the door fee.

And if any places are good to go during day shift. Which ones are nude or just topless. Which ones I can actually get a handle full.

I'm willing to trade info.

I know all the clubs in LA and some girls that will rock your socks off.

Thanks I'm advance.

[Scott Phoenix]

I'll be on AZ for the summer and wondering which strip coins were the best to go to. I'm looking for affordable rates but also hit girls. I'll be in Phoenix but plan on spending time in Apache junction. I don't really Like Latinas I'm only looking for white girls.

Can anybody do a break down of the club names and the door fee.

And if any places are good to go during day shift. Which ones are nude or just topless. Which ones I can actually get a handle full.

I'm willing to trade info.

I know all the clubs in LA and some girls that will rock your socks off.

Thanks I'm advance.Since you are not interested in Latinas, I recommend Bourbon Street Circus and Sugar 44. Neither has a daytime cover. They both have a $10 evening cover. Bourbon does not have any floor dances and VIP are $20 each with no extras. Sugar 44 has $10 floor dances and VIP are $25 each after buying a one time bracelet for $20. Depending on the dancer, you can have a little fun. Hi Liter is over 50 percent Latinas with no daytime cover and $10 evening cover. Floor dances are $10 each and VIP is $30 each except for Friday and Saturday evenings which are $40's each. If you want to go to a club that is nude, try Le Girls in the evening. Cover is $20 and VIP dances are 3 for $110. This club has many dancers that are young and attractive.

[TommyWong]

Visited everyone's favorite club a couple weekends ago. I was reluctant to post this review since it was my favorite club and wanted to keep it on the down low. Fan favorite Bella was visiting for the weekend. Got a couple of dances in VIP for $20 each. She claimed that this was her last weekend dancing since she graduated and was starting her real job soon.

[Scott Phoenix]

Visited everyone's favorite club a couple weekends ago. I was reluctant to post this review since it was my favorite club and wanted to keep it on the down low. Fan favorite Bella was visiting for the weekend. Got a couple of dances in VIP for $20 each. She claimed that this was her last weekend dancing since she graduated and was starting her real job soon.Bella is as nice as anyone you will ever meet. She accepted a position at the Company in California that I retired from. I wish her well on her career.

[Lyle416]

I guess YMMV but are extras still a thing at any club in Phoenix? Seems like the days of going to the Hiliters of the world and getting decent action are long gone.

[WhoMe111]

Bella is as nice as anyone you will ever meet. She accepted a position at the Company in California that I retired from. I wish her well on her career.Is that the sweet young Asian student from UCLA? What a doll!

[Scott Phoenix]

Is that the sweet young Asian student from UCLA? What a doll!You are correct.

[Rehab]

Hi. Does anyone know what club Sasha from Hi-LIter is at now? I took a break and she is no longer there. She mentioned going to another club. But I can't remember. Cuban, short blonde hair, mole on face. Thanks in advance!

[ChefDepartie]

Looking to get take out somewhere? Anyone know where?

[Desert Rat]

Looking to get take out somewhere? Anyone know where?https://www.dennys.com/

You can get take out at Lenny's any time.

[Scott Phoenix]

I have not been to Crazy Girls in about 6 months because so many of the dancers had stopped giving $10 floor dances. I stopped by last Saturday Evening and there were around 20-25 dancers and some of them looked good. I spent most of my time with Yum Yum who is and Asian Dancer with the largest implants that I have ever seen on an Asian. Does anyone else have an opinion on Crazy Girls from a recent visit.

[CflFun352]

First time Visiting Le girls the other night sorry for the late post. Cover was like $36 to get in, which some people seemed upset about in line.

This was 2 AM they gave me a drink cup at the door, got a coke from the bar. I always get at least $100 in ones at the start, and I tip each girl on the stage at least $10 if they are putting on a good show. I looked around and noticed no guys are throwing money for these girls, just sitting back far away watching.

Every table and all over the club there are signs posted for $20 dances, to me that seemed like a good deal. Until every girl.

That walked up wouldn't do $20 dollar dances, and said their minimum is $110 some were only $450 for VIP.

I did end up doing the 3 song $110 package with a pretty spinner. She told me to make sure you do the $110 on the right side of the club so it's fully nude. The left side is topless only.

Overall a pretty clean club, will visit again.

[ShotCaller12]

Are there any clubs in the valley that still do $20 or $25 private VIP dances? I'm willing to travel across town. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Heel Lover]

Are there any clubs in the valley that still do $20 or $25 private VIP dances? I'm willing to travel across town. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Hiliter I think raised it to 30 Mon. To Thursday and 40 on the weekend? Not sure, but not worth it (to me) so that's out. I've heard mixed reviews, but mostly bad lately. Bouncers will seat you and expect a tip. Not my thing! One time I did walk bye them and said I would find my own seat (after they wanded me down or whatever). I don't think they liked that!

Sugar 44.25 per dance, BUT you have to buy a one time wristband (per visit, not per dancer you take back) of 20. I think dancers in afternoon are better / more "friendly" but its been awhile since I've been in and only made it in for day shift a few times.

Looks are better at night (especially Fri / Sat) but everyone's experience and tastes will vary. I liked some of the milfs day shift! One of them (huge breasted Asian who was fine as can be) no longer dances there unfortunately. On (some) Fridays a beautiful Asian lady-fitness model Eureka- dances. I think she arrives around 3 pm. There are other good looking ladies there, but stay away from Alexis. She is no good / pushy / bitchy if still there. Only bad one there though that I know / heard of. The dancers other than Alexis / bouncers / bartenders / waitresses are all cool in my experiences. "Cheers" with tits sort of.

Bsc-Bourbon Street Circus. 20 a dance. No wristband needed. No extras at all. Dancers are the hottest in the valley. Nights can have 3 stages going at a time. Even day shift dancers are pretty hot (I haven't been in for years, but doubt this has changed and everything I've heard it hasn't). If you want to see hot, hot women this is the place!

Not sure of clubs further from me than these, but some can be in very sketchy areas (Bandaids and I think Jaguars).

Cheetahs (close to downtown / sporting events-Dbacks / suns) sucks from what I've heard.

BTW I believe bandaids and hiliter scan licenses which is why I've stayed away other than costs / area. I've been to Hiliter a few times but all were a really long time ago.

Nude clubs in AZ are pretty terrible unfortunately.

Oh and stay away from Skin, Bones and Dream Palace whatever you do. Ripoffs / awful clubs. Don't even set foot in them.

Not sure what part of the Valley you were most looking into (even though you said willing to drive- some clubs are really far away). I don't have any info on places like Chicas or Xplicit since so far from where I live / work (East Valley).

[Driven Happy]

Went to Centerfolds for the first time a couple months ago. It was late night on a weekday and I was driving across town with time to kill and decided to drop in. Right as I got inside and got checked there were several girls sitting on the nearby couch and two of them got up and came over. It was immediately apparent that they were friends or working as a pair. They were stuck on me like glue as I got a drink at the bar and went to sit down. They were kinda cute so I didn't mind, but I usually like to settle in before deciding how I want the night to go. I was defiantly going to get some dances at some point but they were coming on a little strong. I tried to set things up with just one but they were sticking together at all costs. They came down on the price for both of them and I agreed. I liked the quiet one more but maybe she didn't speak much English and so the other one ran the show. We had a few dances getting more and more wild. It was obvious they were going to try to bleed me dry as much as possible. I had some fun and had my drink and decided I would head out on my way again. As we were leaving the dance area the pushy one looked me in the eyes, she had this deer in the headlights expression on her face and said "want to cum". At the time it took me by surprise how nonchalant and matter of fact she asked the question with this blank expression on her face. Now it makes me chuckle thinking about it. I said nah and started walking out. They follow me near the exit, which is also the way to get to the extra VIP area. She sorta ushered me around the wall and said we should go back there. Saying things like "fun dance" and "want to come". The bouncer had noticed us go around the corner and came to see what was happening. He tried to explain that is a private area and I need to pay, but she kept turning him around and pushing him away like he was going to blow her sale, LOL. I'd say it was worth stopping in that night if only for this story, but I'm not looking to go back anytime soon.

[Scott Phoenix]

Went to Centerfolds for the first time a couple months ago. It was late night on a weekday and I was driving across town with time to kill and decided to drop in. Right as I got inside and got checked there were several girls sitting on the nearby couch and two of them got up and came over. It was immediately apparent that they were friends or working as a pair. They were stuck on me like glue as I got a drink at the bar and went to sit down. They were kinda cute so I didn't mind, but I usually like to settle in before deciding how I want the night to go. I was defiantly going to get some dances at some point but they were coming on a little strong. I tried to set things up with just one but they were sticking together at all costs. They came down on the price for both of them and I agreed. I liked the quiet one more but maybe she didn't speak much English and so the other one ran the show. We had a few dances getting more and more wild. It was obvious they were going to try to bleed me dry as much as possible. I had some fun and had my drink and decided I would head out on my way again. As we were leaving the dance area the pushy one looked me in the eyes, she had this deer in the headlights expression on her face and said "want to cum". At the time it took me by surprise how nonchalant and matter of fact she asked the question with this blank expression on her face. Now it makes me chuckle thinking about it. I said nah and started walking out. They follow me near the exit, which is also the way to get to the extra VIP area. She sorta ushered me around the wall and said we should go back there. Saying things like "fun dance" and "want to come". The bouncer had noticed us go around the corner and came to see what was happening. He tried to explain that is a private area and I need to pay, but she kept turning him around and pushing him away like he was going to blow her sale, LOL. I'd say it was worth stopping in that night if only for this story, but I'm not looking to go back anytime soon.The only time to visit this Club is on Friday or Saturday evening around midnight. It costs $100 for 3 Nude VIP dances in the previous topless area to the left after entering. Some dancers will try to get you to pay $140 for 3 dances. You pay $40 to the club and $60 to the dancer. The Manager or Bouncer John told me that the Cubans will try to overcharge and let him know when they try to overcharge.

[Desert Rat]

I don't know where they will wear their union labels but it could be fun to find out.

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/16/1134667170/strippers-union-los-angeles-dancers-star-garden

[AnalogBoy555]

I'm a fairly regular day shift loyalist at Bandaids, but hasn't been for a couple of months until yesterday. The entire crew was girls I didn't recognize. Did I just happen to be there with an odd crew, or did the old girls all leave? If anyone has any info on Suzy, Perla, Maria, or Mariposa, it would be really appreciated!

[Mrmikers]

I'm a fairly regular day shift loyalist at Bandaids, but hasn't been for a couple of months until yesterday. The entire crew was girls I didn't recognize. Did I just happen to be there with an odd crew, or did the old girls all leave? If anyone has any info on Suzy, Perla, Maria, or Mariposa, it would be really appreciated!I posted about this a while ago. There definitely has been a turn-over there. Suzy appears to be gone, as I have not seen her in a long time. Carol is still there, and still fun. Some of the new girls are hot, but the VIP fun seems to be harder to come by. Suzy was working at Hiliter for a while, but sadly, I have not seen her there either.

[Azbow]

I'm a fairly regular day shift loyalist at Bandaids, but hasn't been for a couple of months until yesterday. The entire crew was girls I didn't recognize. Did I just happen to be there with an odd crew, or did the old girls all leave? If anyone has any info on Suzy, Perla, Maria, or Mariposa, it would be really appreciated!I was there a couple of weeks ago and I did see Perla. If Maria is the Cuban girl with dyed blonde hair, she was there too.

Didn't see Mariposa or Azul (whom Mariposa always hang out with).

Anyone know where Estrella is? Did she finally quit? LOL.

[Red5643]

I'm going to be hanging out near the I-17 in a couple days and want to kill some time. Crazy Girls is the closest to where I'll be. Any chances of extras there? I'd rather hang at a club where it's a possibility. Willing to drive a bit too so if I'd have better luck elsewhere (Chicas, Dirtys, etc, would appreciate that insight. TIA.

[Papa Rotzi]

I'm going to be hanging out near the I-17 in a couple days and want to kill some time. Crazy Girls is the closest to where I'll be. Any chances of extras there? I'd rather hang at a club where it's a possibility. Willing to drive a bit too so if I'd have better luck elsewhere (Chicas, Dirtys, etc, would appreciate that insight. TIA.In Tucson, extras can be easily enjoyed. It's extremely rare in Phoenix, unless you can get one over to your hotel or home. Too many cameras, lack of privacy and lots of bouncers making the rounds.

[MontataBoy]

I was near the Desert Flame with an hour to kill and stopped in for a beer about 3p on a Tuesday afternoon. No changes, bar is straight ahead as you enter and is the center of the club. to the right of the bar is a hallway heading to the bathrooms and the backrooms. Further to the right is a stage and a bunch of tables and chairs. To the left of the bar is the private dance area. First room is more open, you can see others in their clearly. Beyond is 3-4 couches in their cube/curtained area. Not fully private, but more private.

Hit the bathroom to get comfortable and allow my eyes to adjust. Took a seat at the bar and ordered a Miller Lite for $4 plus $1 tip. Was almost finished with my beer when a cute upper 30s/low 40s Jackie asks if she can sit next to me. I carried on some small talk with Jackie for about 10 minutes. Long dark hair, thin, with manmade Cs. She eventually asked if I wanted a dance. Checked and dance prices haven't changed. $25/dance or 3/$100 in the first open room. $140/15 minutes, $250/30 minutes, not sure what an hour would be. Elected the $140/15 as I've found it to be the best value in the past and can usually accomplish what needs to be accomplished.

Got situated on the couch and she removes her top. Decent looking man mades. Unfortunately seeing was all that she allowed as she immediately stated her rules of no touching pussy or boobs. I told her that was odd as every other girl I've ever gotten a dance from at the flame allowed friendly touching on the top. She pulled the, I'm new and I don't want to get fired. Everything went downhill from there. Basically an air dance with no grind at all. The only redeeming quality was I was allowed to feel up her ass. It was a nice ass, but not worth $140. And needless to say there was absolutely no stick shifting, let alone anything else. Ended the dance and immediately left. Normally I give a tip for a good dance, but I felt like I should get a tip for being a good sport and tolerating her rules. Never had a dancer here pull that crap before. I'll go back because it's always good for a quick beer and a possible dance. Although I've probably left 50% of the time w/o a dance because it's very hit or miss. There'll be no more misses with Jackie though.

[See200]

Visiting soon and want to enjoy a full nude club (we don't have them). What clubs are full nude and which are recommended for seeing some pink without spending too much?

Thanks!

[Heel Lover]

Visiting soon and want to enjoy a full nude club (we don't have them). What clubs are full nude and which are recommended for seeing some pink without spending too much?

Thanks!I think the all nude clubs in AZ are bad. I've lived here my whole life (in my upper 40's), and nude clubs have changed for the worse.

Dream Palace in my opinion is the worst club in AZ. Others on a strip club site (national) would agree and it's been considered one of the worst in the country. Blue Moon used to be awesome, but that was pre pandemic. New owners, new (strict) rules and a rip off now from what I've heard.

Alaskan Busch company is two clubs in one. One side topless, one side nude. Nude side only open late. Expensive no touch dances. Very, very sketchy area (at night).

Only one that may be ok is Le Girls in Tempe. It won't be cheap though. I think dances are 3 for 100. I could be wrong though. I've heard dancers there are hot.

Any other opinions? Especially on Le Girls. I've never been there since its been topless side and nude side. Even when it was all nude, my last visit was at least 10 years ago I'd say (and I wasn't there for long that day as there was one dancer haha).

[Desert Rat]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12720957/Las-Vegas-strip-club-free-dances-Veterans-Day.html

I saw this article about Las Vegas. I will be in Vegas for a wedding but plan on skipping this event. The mob owned Crazy Horse 3 is just a hollow shell of the original. Lots of crazy shit at the old place back in the day.

[See200]

Thanks for the advice. As an alternative what strip clubs (topless) are recommended for good looking girls, fair pricing, and no hassles? There are so many to choose from and I only have one free evening to attend while visiting the sun city.

Cheers!


I think the all nude clubs in AZ are bad. I've lived here my whole life (in my upper 40's), and nude clubs have changed for the worse.

Dream Palace in my opinion is the worst club in AZ. Others on a strip club site (national) would agree and it's been considered one of the worst in the country. Blue Moon used to be awesome, but that was pre pandemic. New owners, new (strict) rules and a rip off now from what I've heard.

Alaskan Busch company is two clubs in one. One side topless, one side nude. Nude side only open late. Expensive no touch dances. Very, very sketchy area (at night).

Only one that may be ok is Le Girls in Tempe. It won't be cheap though. I think dances are 3 for 100. I could be wrong though. I've heard dancers there are hot.

Any other opinions? Especially on Le Girls. I've never been there since its been topless side and nude side. Even when it was all nude, my last visit was at least 10 years ago I'd say (and I wasn't there for long that day as there was one dancer haha).

[Heel Lover]

Thanks for the advice. As an alternative what strip clubs (topless) are recommended for good looking girls, fair pricing, and no hassles? There are so many to choose from and I only have one free evening to attend while visiting the sun city.

Cheers!Not sure what part of town you are in. Going to reply here so maybe others will chime in too.

Anyway, in my opinion Bourbon Street Circus on 24th Street and Thomas has the hottest dancers. I believe 3 stages in use at night (not sure of cover probably 10 to 12 dollars). Only one stage daytime, but I believe no cover. Cool place. Dances are 20 apiece. They don't do 10 dollar dances. You are not getting extras here, but the dancers are hot and it's a low pressure spot. Not a party place with a bunch of drunk customers. Parking is easy too.

Hiliter nearby is a party p!ace and can get rowdy. You can get 10 dollar dances I think. They do scan ids and parking can be a challenge (at night).

Stay out of Scottsdale clubs no matter what even if you are staying close to any of them. Skin and Bones (same owner) are both rip offs.

[WhoMe111]

Not sure what part of town you are in. Going to reply here so maybe others will chime in too.

Anyway, in my opinion Bourbon Street Circus on 24th Street and Thomas has the hottest dancers. I believe 3 stages in use at night (not sure of cover probably 10 to 12 dollars). Only one stage daytime, but I believe no cover. Cool place. Dances are 20 apiece. They don't do 10 dollar dances. You are not getting extras here, but the dancers are hot and it's a low pressure spot. Not a party place with a bunch of drunk customers. Parking is easy too.

Hiliter nearby is a party p!ace and can get rowdy. You can get 10 dollar dances I think. They do scan ids and parking can be a challenge (at night).

Stay out of Scottsdale clubs no matter what even if you are staying close to any of them. Skin and Bones (same owner) are both rip offs.Except BSC is at 28th St & Thomas.

[Jrcnr]

Not sure what part of town you are in. Going to reply here so maybe others will chime in too.

Anyway, in my opinion Bourbon Street Circus on 24th Street and Thomas has the hottest dancers. I believe 3 stages in use at night (not sure of cover probably 10 to 12 dollars). Only one stage daytime, but I believe no cover. Cool place. Dances are 20 apiece. They don't do 10 dollar dances. You are not getting extras here, but the dancers are hot and it's a low pressure spot. Not a party place with a bunch of drunk customers. Parking is easy too.

Hiliter nearby is a party p!ace and can get rowdy. You can get 10 dollar dances I think. They do scan ids and parking can be a challenge (at night).

Stay out of Scottsdale clubs no matter what even if you are staying close to any of them. Skin and Bones (same owner) are both rip offs.I definitely would agree with BSC and HiLiter. The only two others I'd add would be LeGirls and Christie's in Tempe. But I'd stick with the first two. You'll definitely find something.

[TylerPerelli]

Nude: avoid Dream Girls at all costs.

Topless: avoid Skin and Bones at all costs.

There is no fun to be had in Scottsdale.

Nude: Blue Moon was fun in tears past. Everything I've heard lately is bad.

Nude: Le Girls has vey hot and very young dancers. Semi expensive, yet fun.

Nude: Alaska Bush: used to be decent, has went downhill.

Nude: Cenerfolds can be hit or miss.

Topless: Bourbon Street Circus will always have attractive ladies, yet less extras.

Topless: Hi Liter will have lots of ladies and variety.

Topless: Sugar 44 will be hit or miss.

Topless: Candy Store is good on weekend evenings.

My suggestion: start at Sugar 44, them BSC, and move on to HiLiter.

Then the next day visit AMPs such as Top Spa and Aloha.

Please post your findings both good and bad.

[Heel Lover]

Nude: avoid Dream Girls at all costs.

Topless: avoid Skin and Bones at all costs.

There is no fun to be had in Scottsdale.

Nude: Blue Moon was fun in tears past. Everything I've heard lately is bad.

Nude: Le Girls has vey hot and very young dancers. Semi expensive, yet fun.

Nude: Alaska Bush: used to be decent, has went downhill.

Nude: Cenerfolds can be hit or miss.

Topless: Bourbon Street Circus will always have attractive ladies, yet less extras.

Topless: Hi Liter will have lots of ladies and variety.

Topless: Sugar 44 will be hit or miss.

Topless: Candy Store is good on weekend evenings.

My suggestion: start at Sugar 44, them BSC, and move on to HiLiter.

Then the next day visit AMPs such as Top Spa and Aloha.

Please post your findings both good and bad.Good info. To the original poster.........

Sugar 44 (44th st and Thomas), Bourbon Street Circus (28th st and Thomas) and Hiliter are all close to each other. I've never done all 3 in a night, but have done two out of the 3 in a night. Also Sugar 44 parking sucks at night. It is ok to park at the Wells Fargo though and walk over (I've never had a problem doing that). Wouldn't try it during the day however due to WF being open. . I think Wells Fargo closes at 6, but it might be earlier.

Sugar 44 has hot dancers Friday and Saturday nights. But make sure to ask each dancer how much their floor dances are (at night). Some won't do them, some want 15 or 20 instead of 10. Dances regular prices are 10 on floor and 25 in VIP (plus a one time purchase per visit wristband of 20 dollars for VIP). I like afternoons at Sugar 44, but the dancers will be older. I still think they are hot, but I like milfs haha.

I've never had a parking issue during afternoons at Sugar 44, but I've gone early when I've gone in. They open at noon Mon to Friday and 1 on Saturday. Sat afternoons don't have the coolest dancers usually however.

And yeah, please post your findings / adventures here when you get a chance.

[OrangeGoku]

Was in town for business and decided to spend the day at a few clubs. I ended up at bourbon street at about 3 pm. About 6 girls were working.

Mutlpliengirls approaches me asking me about lap dances and also if I wanted to go to the VIP.

When I asked what was included in the VIO she said we could "have fun". When I asked about specifics she said HJ and possibly eating her. The price was kinda high. 200 for the VIO then another 180 for her. I had a bad gut feeling so I declinerd. She seemed upset and she went and sat with another guy and was talking about me the home day.

Then another girl approached me and asked me the same thing if I wanted to go to VIP. I politefully declined because it seemed like they were just trying to run game on me.

Now that I have read the forums and see the don't offer extras here perhaps it was best that I declined. Seemed like they were trying to trick me into paying VIP price then bait and switch on me.

Did I do the correct thing or did I miss out on an opportunity?

[Denton]

Was in town for business and decided to spend the day at a few clubs. I ended up at bourbon street at about 3 pm. About 6 girls were working.

Mutlpliengirls approaches me asking me about lap dances and also if I wanted to go to the VIP.

When I asked what was included in the VIO she said we could "have fun". When I asked about specifics she said HJ and possibly eating her. The price was kinda high. 200 for the VIO then another 180 for her. I had a bad gut feeling so I declinerd. She seemed upset and she went and sat with another guy and was talking about me the home day.

Then another girl approached me and asked me the same thing if I wanted to go to VIP. I politefully declined because it seemed like they were just trying to run game on me.

Now that I have read the forums and see the don't offer extras here perhaps it was best that I declined. Seemed like they were trying to trick me into paying VIP price then bait and switch on me.

Did I do the correct thing or did I miss out on an opportunity?Dude, even if she made good on the deal, 380 for an HJ and "possibly" eating her is absurdly expensive. You were getting hustled either way.

[MikeELikes]

I never see anyone in the forum talking about this place. Had some good takeout right before the COVID shutdown. It was a girl named Desire that really loved giving bjs. Got a preview in the club, and met her after her shift was up to finish. She must've really liked me, I didn't have to pay any extra. I blew 300 getting her all to myself in the VIP side (I think it was 100/15 min at the time), which was really just a couch on one side of the club. Maybe that's all she required, or she really did just want to feel me in her mouth. I'm a decent looking fellow, maybe that did it. Kept saying that during our dance, and all I had to do was say "go for it" and she pulled it out, briefly, tasted it, then put it back in my pants for me. Lost her number when my burner phone broke. I don't do cloud type settings for burner phones, don't want an accidental account merge haha.

Point is, does this club just not make the usual list for reasons I don't know? I don't frequent the clubs often, I'm more of a AMP or escort type of guy. But I would definitely repeat there again if those services were something that could be counted on or at least a possibility. Would love to track down that Desire girl for sure as well, but that's quite a needle / haystack situation I bet.

Just wanted to get the opinion of you fine gentlemen and see what why'all think.

Stay safe out there boys!

Mike E Likes (Rimjobs!)

[Heel Lover]

I never see anyone in the forum talking about this place. Had some good takeout right before the COVID shutdown. It was a girl named Desire that really loved giving bjs. Got a preview in the club, and met her after her shift was up to finish. She must've really liked me, I didn't have to pay any extra. I blew 300 getting her all to myself in the VIP side (I think it was 100/15 min at the time), which was really just a couch on one side of the club. Maybe that's all she required, or she really did just want to feel me in her mouth. I'm a decent looking fellow, maybe that did it. Kept saying that during our dance, and all I had to do was say "go for it" and she pulled it out, briefly, tasted it, then put it back in my pants for me. Lost her number when my burner phone broke. I don't do cloud type settings for burner phones, don't want an accidental account merge haha.

Point is, does this club just not make the usual list for reasons I don't know? I don't frequent the clubs often, I'm more of a AMP or escort type of guy. But I would definitely repeat there again if those services were something that could be counted on or at least a possibility. Would love to track down that Desire girl for sure as well, but that's quite a needle / haystack situation I bet.

Just wanted to get the opinion of you fine gentlemen and see what why'all think.

Stay safe out there boys!

Mike E Likes (Rimjobs!)Is that the one on / around 35th to 38th Ave and Indian School? If it is that area was sketchy 25-30 years ago when I used to play indoor soccer around there late at night (our games started anywhere from 7-10 pm I believe). I always made sure to have enough gas for the ride home so as to not have to stop in that area after the game. And I wasn't overly paranoid (I was in my late teens to my early 20's and didn't give a fuck about a lot of things), but I remember that not being an area to hang out in / around even back then. And I didn't have a nice car by any means. I could only imagine that area (at night) now.

Is that a nude club that is only open at night as well? I live really far from it nowadays and have ventured to Alaskan Busch (at night) within the last 5-10 years (at night). That is a sketchy area as well, but I think Eve's Tease area is worse?

[MikeELikes]

Is that the one on / around 35th to 38th Ave and Indian School? If it is that area was sketchy 25-30 years ago when I used to play indoor soccer around there late at night (our games started anywhere from 7-10 pm I believe). I always made sure to have enough gas for the ride home so as to not have to stop in that area after the game. And I wasn't overly paranoid (I was in my late teens to my early 20's and didn't give a fuck about a lot of things), but I remember that not being an area to hang out in / around even back then. And I didn't have a nice car by any means. I could only imagine that area (at night) now.

Is that a nude club that is only open at night as well? I live really far from it nowadays and have ventured to Alaskan Busch (at night) within the last 5-10 years (at night). That is a sketchy area as well, but I think Eve's Tease area is worse?That's the one! Definitely in the heart of a bad area, but not a popular spot for lurking crackheads, don't usually see much of the hood action you'd expect being right there. ABCO area is a bit more sketch in my opinion. Just curious why I don't see much mention of it in the forum, considering the fun I had without even really trying. Maybe I just got lucky, I don't know, but that's what I'd like to find out!

Mike E.

[Heel Lover]

That's the one! Definitely in the heart of a bad area, but not a popular spot for lurking crackheads, don't usually see much of the hood action you'd expect being right there. ABCO area is a bit more sketch in my opinion. Just curious why I don't see much mention of it in the forum, considering the fun I had without even really trying. Maybe I just got lucky, I don't know, but that's what I'd like to find out!

Mike E.Funny story. Of course this was way before any internet or directions (the driving GPS, not the escort one!) assist, but I first drove to my games when I would have been maybe 17. I was bad at directions -my older brother or possibly parents friend (the coach) drove the first couple of games. But I lived in the East Valley and it was far as Hell for me. When my brother went off to college that summer and I had to drive myself, I always knew I was close after I passed the club and the bright lights! I later learned an easier exit and would take that but knew the place was right before the bright lights of the club (the soccer place was basically an old restructured warehouse or something with limited or no signage and would have been hard to find the first couple of times without any landmarks-mine just happened to be those strip club lights).

[Arizona Junkie]

You might have been getting a quote for the private champagne room which has a high access fee in addition to paying the dancer. Regular VIP dances are always $20 each in the cubicles in the back raised area. There are some dayshift girls that will push the envelope in VIP, but actual extras are quite rare. Some will let you suck their tits, or even do some southern exploration, but pulling out your own junk is where the line usually stops. Most of the dayshift dancers at Bourbon are veteran dancers or MILFs that work days because of kids, etc. Almost all are very friendly if you spend money and give them at least a modicum of respect.


Was in town for business and decided to spend the day at a few clubs. I ended up at bourbon street at about 3 pm. About 6 girls were working.

Mutlpliengirls approaches me asking me about lap dances and also if I wanted to go to the VIP.

When I asked what was included in the VIO she said we could "have fun". When I asked about specifics she said HJ and possibly eating her. The price was kinda high. 200 for the VIO then another 180 for her. I had a bad gut feeling so I declinerd. She seemed upset and she went and sat with another guy and was talking about me the home day.

Then another girl approached me and asked me the same thing if I wanted to go to VIP. I politefully declined because it seemed like they were just trying to run game on me.

Now that I have read the forums and see the don't offer extras here perhaps it was best that I declined. Seemed like they were trying to trick me into paying VIP price then bait and switch on me.

Did I do the correct thing or did I miss out on an opportunity?

[TenSleep]

You might have been getting a quote for the private champagne room which has a high access fee in addition to paying the dancer. Regular VIP dances are always $20 each in the cubicles in the back raised area. There are some dayshift girls that will push the envelope in VIP, but actual extras are quite rare. Some will let you suck their tits, or even do some southern exploration, but pulling out your own junk is where the line usually stops. Most of the dayshift dancers at Bourbon are veteran dancers or MILFs that work days because of kids, etc. Almost all are very friendly if you spend money and give them at least a modicum of respect.I would honestly be interested in the CR with a hot Bourbon's girl, if I knew that those types of extra's were available. A little pricy, but given the reputation of Phoenix being pretty much no extra's on site, that might be the cost for an experience that just isn't normally available.

The idea being that you have a chance to scout the room to find who you would be interested in and actually talk to that person beforehand, instead of going in cold with outcall, parlors, ect. Not saying it's ideal, but to some, it might be worth an extra $100 or so to have the option of knowing exactly who you're going to be spending the next 1/2 hour with.

[DirtyDeedsDone]

I would honestly be interested in the CR with a hot Bourbon's girl, if I knew that those types of extra's were available. A little pricy, but given the reputation of Phoenix being pretty much no extra's on site, that might be the cost for an experience that just isn't normally available.

The idea being that you have a chance to scout the room to find who you would be interested in and actually talk to that person beforehand, instead of going in cold with outcall, parlors, etc.. Not saying it's ideal, but to some, it might be worth an extra $100 or so to have the option of knowing exactly who you're going to be spending the next 1/2 hour with.You Gents in the Phoenix area might want to read the Tucson Board for all your needs. Tucson clubs have Private Cabanas that are left completely alone by you the customer and the dancer. Even 2 of the other clubs have VIP areas that are left pretty much alone. You just have to watch for the manager when he comes in to count the dance. All managers know what's going on. I would avoid the dancers from where Cuban cigars are made. They're too hungry for money, which usually means they will lie and cheat to get it. The Tucson Board talks about it in great length at times. Enjoy your 120 mile south.

[TommyWong]

Visited Bourbon Street and saw that Bella was back. Hot asian college girl that retired when she graduated. She said she'll be back for the weekend.

[Scott Phoenix]

Visited Bourbon Street and saw that Bella was back. Hot asian college girl that retired when she graduated. She said she'll be back for the weekend.I saw Bella earlier this week. She is such a nice and attractive lady. She travels to Phoenix from California a few times per year. She stays with her friend Dillon who also dances at Bourbon Street.

[Kester Diamond]

You Gents in the Phoenix area might want to read the Tucson Board for all your needs. Tucson clubs have Private Cabanas that are left completely alone by you the customer and the dancer. Even 2 of the other clubs have VIP areas that are left pretty much alone. You just have to watch for the manager when he comes in to count the dance. All managers know what's going on. I would avoid the dancers from where Cuban cigars are made. They're too hungry for money, which usually means they will lie and cheat to get it. The Tucson Board talks about it in great length at times. Enjoy your 120 mile south.I died at "the place where Cuban cigars are made".

[StopIt]

Everyone here should check out the Tucson forum. Apparently, Curves may be live streaming the VIP rooms to foreign countries and taping all of the sessions to blackmail both dancers and mongers. Tucson's Curvies is owned by the same people that own Hi Liter, Centerfolds, Bandaids and Essex. A second club in Tucson, Raider's Reef is also owned by the same people. A link to the post is below:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=6689452#post6689452.

This is very concerning! Not sure I will go to any of these places until it is resolved!

[Scott Phoenix]

Everyone here should check out the Tucson forum. Apparently, Curves may be live streaming the VIP rooms to foreign countries and taping all of the sessions to blackmail both dancers and mongers. Tucson's Curvies is owned by the same people that own Hi Liter, Centerfolds, Bandaids and Essex. A second club in Tucson, Raider's Reef is also owned by the same people. A link to the post is below:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=6689452#post6689452.

This is very concerning! Not sure I will go to any of these places until it is resolved!This rumor was started by someone that had 1 previous post on this site. I would not worry about this until someone with over 100 posts confirms that they have actual evidence that this is happening.

[Desert Rat]

Everyone here should check out the Tucson forum. Apparently, Curves may be live streaming the VIP rooms to foreign countries and taping all of the sessions to blackmail both dancers and mongers. Tucson's Curvies is owned by the same people that own Hi Liter, Centerfolds, Band-aids and Essex. A second club in Tucson, Raider's Reef is also owned by the same people. A link to the post is below:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=6689452#post6689452.

This is very concerning! Not sure I will go to any of these places until it is resolved!The next step is to use Jewish Space Lasers to attack dancers and mongers. Where is Dr. Poon when you need him? Damn, use your noggin, folks.

[Denton]

This rumor was started by someone that had 1 previous post on this site. I would not worry about this until someone with over 100 posts confirms that they have actual evidence that this is happening.The rumor sounds somewhat ridiculous if you think about it. An owner would have to be very stupid and reckless to do something like that. They would be creating a mountain of evidence for law enforcement to potentially use to prosecute them. Also, why would you stream the video on foreign sites if one of your objectives was also to "blackmail" dancers and mongers? It's 2023 and the internet is global. If you stream video, someone somewhere is going to record it, and some of it will eventually leak out on sites accessible to Americans. The video would then be useless as blackmail, as the damage would already be done. That being said, people do a lot of stupid and ridiculous things in this world, so it is not impossible. But I would be very, very skeptical of this rather dumb sounding rumor without a lot more evidence of it. It's much more likely that this is something being made up or radically embellished by a disgruntled dancer or customer.

[Higgs Boson]

Higgs 2023 overview Part 1.

It's been about 8 months since I posted a club report.

My SB stopped communicating early this year. Then texted me after seven months.

Life goes on.

In that time, I've visited Essex, Crazy Girls, Dirty's, Bourbon Street, Centerfolds, and Bandaids, Add Kandies as a first time since it became a "private" club.

Highlights:

Three offers of threesomes. One was via txt at closing time, probably a parting attempt to empty my pockets that evening. Second was probably to stimulate a continued interest and may not have been serious. The third, I would consider seriously as I've known the dancer for a long time. Offer still stands. Tempting.

Three rides for dancers home from clubs. OK, I got no special favors. On one occasion, we stopped and picked up a female relative whose job essentially was vetting me for safety. If you hang out enough at clubs you will hear accounts from the victims of assault and robbery by customers.

A request to do a "straw purchase" for a firearm. Not stated directly, but I could sense where the conversation was headed. See paragraph above if you're wondering why a dancer would need a firearm. Reasons for the straw purchase might be felony record or just to save money. I was uncomfortable with it and changed the subject.

A dancer made a special effort to exhibit the dog collar she was wearing and held the collar's D ring between her fingers to show me. The message was clear and I asked the obvious: did she like a leash attached to the collar?

If you hadn't noticed, there are Cubans in every club now. Most attempt to drain every bill in your wallet during your visit. You may find an exception or two. Expect to be dragged into a section with VIP pricing.

I was at a club near closing time and a dancer asked for a ride over to Kandies. We arrived and she told the door security she was a dancer there. Club "mom" came to door to verify. We were cleared but "mom" seemed annoyed. Door guys said my entry cost $20. I don't know if that was special pricing. Seemed cheap compared to "membership" on web site. Inside, the layout was the same as pre-pandemic. The 2 AM dancers were very sexy and my companion swiftly set up some special twerking sessions with me sandwiched between dancers. Hell yeah. I enjoyed it. But I haven't been back since. The "membership" part makes me hesitate.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Higgs 2023 overview Part 2.

Centerfolds. Give up hope for alcoholic beverages here anytime soon. Maybe never. Less than 50 yards away, a charter school now operates to the west of the club. As for the internal operations after the pandemic, there are no "table" dances anymore. You match up with a dancer and you go to the VIP seating area. It's not private and quite open. You tell the club worker how many dances you want and you pay $25/ dance. What's interesting now about Centerfolds is the wide range of ages among dancers including some who look only 18 or 19. I know this isn't really new but it was striking how many dancers weren't old enough to drink. In some cases, dancers seem interested in only stage tips, not VIP dances. Watch out for the dancers who try to "lasso" you immediately after entry. Ditto for the dancers hanging out by the ATM wanting to "assist" you.

Dirty's. I got threatened with ejection, so you should be warned what to watch for. The customer seats along the wall opposite from the entrance and the DJ booth are a great place for dances with one problem: there are video cameras in the ceiling above. You may think it's safe to touch a boob or press your lips on a butt cheek but I was confronted by a security guy who told me otherwise. Dancers will entice you to move to VIP ($30/ dance or four for $100). I did this about four times and it's definitely YMMV. The first time, the dancer talked about cameras in VIP and wouldn't do anything I couldn't get at a regular table and she pushed OTC. A couple of other visits were encouraging but it's bit of a crap shoot. Out in the lounge area there are sometimes interesting adventures but again YMMV. One time, a dancer knew I was checking out her sling-adorned body (hot) and she moved directly from another customer to my lap and curled her hand around clothed Mini Higgs, concealed by her legs. As songs continued playing, my eyes were eventually rolling back in my head, and she whispers in my ear, "Cum for me".

Bourbon Street. BigTim's perhaps favorite club. I used to avoid Bourbon because of its former practice of hiring primarily white and asian dancers only with augmented breasts. Visiting with BigTim in the last couple of years I was amazed to see that practice was abandoned and there were dancers of various ethnic backgrounds and breast sizes. Bourbon dancers don't accept anything less than VIP and it's YMMV. I've had boring experiences but I also had a dancer who fulfilled one of my dreams. It's not what you're thinking.

Bandaids. I have to disagree with Heel Lover regarding a detail about this club, implying it's in a sketchy neighborhood. I don't think the residents of the Coronado neighborhood to the east would agree, nor would the occupants of the luxury apartments and medical offices to the west. It's the drab strip club and neighboring strip mall that are, well, not "flashy" and I suspect the club owners like to keep it that way as to avoid unneeded attention from area residents. Bandaids workers have night time parking lot shifts to monitor safety and security which makes for better relations with the neighbors.

Speaking of Bandaids, it's still my favorite club despite the influx of dancers with huge, no, humongous, sometimes augmented butts. First, I like the "neighborhood bar with benefits" vibe. You may prefer other cIub formats but I like striking up a conversation with a dancer. I also prefer dancers who into repeat club encounters over time. I also return to Bandaids because there are occasional gems among the dancers. I was there last night for one of those gems plus one of my past faves has returned after having her second child.

Higgs.

[WhiteSun777]

Ok so it's been a long time I've been back to Hi-Liter. Super crowded where I didn't feel like waiting for open table so I sat at the bar. New thing for me is the nice booth on the other side with a small stage. (Nobody was using it) Not much privacy and I'm not sure why they even set it up like that.

Jessica came by (she's been around for a long time) but I wasn't having it so she moved on. Sabrina that I never met but decided to try her. Spot opened up by the stage but we were kicked out after 2 songs (bouncer came by said there's a big group coming) I could be an ass and not move but whatever. The 2 floor dances were $10 each.

Back to the bar waiting for a table to open up, found my old timer (she's been there for a decade at least!) Did a few dances, still $10 each. Now new girl came by, I wasn't sure about her but let's test it out. Not that good, so one and done but she wanted $20 and I'm like WTF? Now I wasn't going to grab the manager for this but I wanted to check on a few other dancers.

Sure enough 3 other dancers said the same, $20 on the floor and $40 for VIP. I'm totally confused if they're just setting up their own price or this is a new standard. Only because I asked another young cuban dancer and she quoted me $10.

So my question is, is it still $10 for floor dance or it's whatever the dancer calls it?

[Jim2288]

I've frequented Hi Liter for years and occasionally stop in Bandaids (close and convenient to my office) or Bourbon or Dirty's. I finally stopped into Cheetahs for the first time in years, since pre-COVID.

Cheetahs has made a lot of changes and the club looks really nice. More importantly, the quality of the girls has changed entirely. It used to be pretty bad, but now they always have at least a few great looking girls working. The lineup has been impressive every time I've stopped in the last couple of months. Also, they have a lot of different room choices (regular VIP, a room that's $150 for 30 min, a room that's $250 or $300 for 30 minutes, and a few rooms upstairs that are a little pricier. I usually hit the red room for $500 cause it's nice and comfortable and you know there aren't cameras.

If you haven't been there in a while, stop in and check it out. Choose your girl for the red room wisely. If I'm not already in it. LOL.

[Heel Lover]

I've frequented Hi Liter for years and occasionally stop in Bandaids (close and convenient to my office) or Bourbon or Dirty's. I finally stopped into Cheetahs for the first time in years, since pre-COVID.

Cheetahs has made a lot of changes and the club looks really nice. More importantly, the quality of the girls has changed entirely. It used to be pretty bad, but now they always have at least a few great looking girls working. The lineup has been impressive every time I've stopped in the last couple of months. Also, they have a lot of different room choices (regular VIP, a room that's $150 for 30 min, a room that's $250 or $300 for 30 minutes, and a few rooms upstairs that are a little pricier. I usually hit the red room for $500 cause it's nice and comfortable and you know there aren't cameras.

If you haven't been there in a while, stop in and check it out. Choose your girl for the red room wisely. If I'm not already in it. LOL.Do they have one room that is more private for 30 minutes or was the cheapest price / time mistyped and supposed to be 15 minutes for 150? No big deal, just wondering.

[DirtyDeedsDone]

Ok so it's been a long time I've been back to Hi-Liter. Super crowded where I didn't feel like waiting for open table so I sat at the bar. New thing for me is the nice booth on the other side with a small stage. (Nobody was using it) Not much privacy and I'm not sure why they even set it up like that.

Jessica came by (she's been around for a long time) but I wasn't having it so she moved on. Sabrina that I never met but decided to try her. Spot opened up by the stage but we were kicked out after 2 songs (bouncer came by said there's a big group coming) I could be an ass and not move but whatever. The 2 floor dances were $10 each.

Back to the bar waiting for a table to open up, found my old timer (she's been there for a decade at least!) Did a few dances, still $10 each. Now new girl came by, I wasn't sure about her but let's test it out. Not that good, so one and done but she wanted $20 and I'm like WTF? Now I wasn't going to grab the manager for this but I wanted to check on a few other dancers.

Sure enough 3 other dancers said the same, $20 on the floor and $40 for VIP. I'm totally confused if they're just setting up their own price or this is a new standard. Only because I asked another young cuban dancer and she quoted me $10.

So my question is, is it still $10 for floor dance or it's whatever the dancer calls it?There is a somewhat new thing that's been happening at the 2 clubs in Tucson and the 4 clubs owned by the same group. It's unfortunately allowing the dancers to make-up a price that the dancer chooses. It's creating an extremely uncomfortable situation for everyone. The problem that exists is that the dancers aren't informing the client that their prices exceed the amount that is normally stated on a flyer or posted somewhere. Unfortunately now we the client have to ask each dancer how much they charge when they ask is if we want a dance. This is causing some major problems in Tucson and many clients have had to get the managers involved. It's created an incredibly uncomfortable situation for everyone involved. That's why I always ask before the dancer before she begins. And if I've planning to get more then a free dances is best to count together after each and every dance to stay on the same count. It's sad now how the strip clubs have become. The dancers are making less lately and their greed tends to be growing to make up for it.

[TenSleep]

I've frequented Hi Liter for years and occasionally stop in Bandaids (close and convenient to my office) or Bourbon or Dirty's. I finally stopped into Cheetahs for the first time in years, since pre-COVID.

Cheetahs has made a lot of changes and the club looks really nice. More importantly, the quality of the girls has changed entirely. It used to be pretty bad, but now they always have at least a few great looking girls working. The lineup has been impressive every time I've stopped in the last couple of months. Also, they have a lot of different room choices (regular VIP, a room that's $150 for 30 min, a room that's $250 or $300 for 30 minutes, and a few rooms upstairs that are a little pricier. I usually hit the red room for $500 cause it's nice and comfortable and you know there aren't cameras.

If you haven't been there in a while, stop in and check it out. Choose your girl for the red room wisely. If I'm not already in it. LOL.There were 2 years in a row, I think 2016 and 17, that the dancer quality was quite good when I was there (generally from abut 4-8 pm) Had an ultimate experience with a pretty good looking, busty blond. Also had a really good time a year after that with a petite Hispanic girl and a petite to athletic while girl in the $300/30 min big room, just off where the DJ works.

The last 5 years have been pretty horrible there. Will give it another shot next March when I'm in town. Curious about the rooms upstairs. $500, everything included or $500 for the room + a tip to the dancer?

[Jrcnr]

There is a somewhat new thing that's been happening at the 2 clubs in Tucson and the 4 clubs owned by the same group. It's unfortunately allowing the dancers to make-up a price that the dancer chooses. It's creating an extremely uncomfortable situation for everyone. The problem that exists is that the dancers aren't informing the client that their prices exceed the amount that is normally stated on a flyer or posted somewhere. Unfortunately now we the client have to ask each dancer how much they charge when they ask is if we want a dance. This is causing some major problems in Tucson and many clients have had to get the managers involved. It's created an incredibly uncomfortable situation for everyone involved. That's why I always ask before the dancer before she begins. And if I've planning to get more then a free dances is best to count together after each and every dance to stay on the same count. It's sad now how the strip clubs have become. The dancers are making less lately and their greed tends to be growing to make up for it.The dances for the majority of the girls at Liter on the floor are $10. I've been going there every week for years; during the day. I've not had anyone tell me their dances are $20. I'm thinking maybe they see me in there, idk. I do hear from time to time some charge $20. As I'm typing this I did have a hot blonde with nice DDs started to dance, the full 1st song she kept her top on. Hmmm. Okay maybe she'll take off the top on the 2nd song, about 1 min into song 2 I asked about her top and said only in VIP. WTF? I stopped her and flipped her $20 for the two.

[Scott Phoenix]

There were 2 years in a row, I think 2016 and 17, that the dancer quality was quite good when I was there (generally from abut 4-8 pm) Had an ultimate experience with a pretty good looking, busty blond. Also had a really good time a year after that with a petite Hispanic girl and a petite to athletic while girl in the $300/30 min big room, just off where the DJ works.

The last 5 years have been pretty horrible there. Will give it another shot next March when I'm in town. Curious about the rooms upstairs. $500, everything included or $500 for the room + a tip to the dancer?I have not been to Cheetahs in 4 years. In 2017 and 2018, I paid $1,000 for a yearly pass to the second floor. It was normally $100 per dancer to the club to go upstairs. You would negotiate with the dancer. I had some great times with Katy and Jazzy upstairs.

[TenSleep]

I have not been to Cheetahs in 4 years. In 2017 and 2018, I paid $1,000 for a yearly pass to the second floor. It was normally $100 per dancer to the club to go upstairs. You would negotiate with the dancer. I had some great times with Katy and Jazzy upstairs.I remember hearing somebody mention that to me back in 16 or 17. The fact that I'm only in Phoenix for a week every March made that kinda unrealistic. Obviously, even at 5 Bens, she's got to be really hot, young, petite and ready for action. I would guess that if you could find the talent worth bringing upstairs once every other week and negotiate a reasonable price for an hour with a truly hot dancer or 3, it would eventually turn into a decent deal.

[WhiteSun777]

The dances for the majority of the girls at Liter on the floor are $10. I've been going there every week for years; during the day. I've not had anyone tell me their dances are $20. I'm thinking maybe they see me in there, idk. I do hear from time to time some charge $20. As I'm typing this I did have a hot blonde with nice DDs started to dance, the full 1st song she kept her top on. Hmmm. Okay maybe she'll take off the top on the 2nd song, about 1 min into song 2 I asked about her top and said only in VIP. WTF? I stopped her and flipped her $20 for the two.So that dancer wants $40 just to see her topless?? WTF is this coming to? It's crazy talk.

And thank you for the info, that's why I was a bit confused, I used to hit up Hi-Liter a lot back in the days so I know at least a few old timers that's been there and they were still charging the "old" rate.

[WhiteSun777]

There is a somewhat new thing that's been happening at the 2 clubs in Tucson and the 4 clubs owned by the same group. It's unfortunately allowing the dancers to make-up a price that the dancer chooses. It's creating an extremely uncomfortable situation for everyone. The problem that exists is that the dancers aren't informing the client that their prices exceed the amount that is normally stated on a flyer or posted somewhere. Unfortunately now we the client have to ask each dancer how much they charge when they ask is if we want a dance. This is causing some major problems in Tucson and many clients have had to get the managers involved. It's created an incredibly uncomfortable situation for everyone involved. That's why I always ask before the dancer before she begins. And if I've planning to get more then a free dances is best to count together after each and every dance to stay on the same count. It's sad now how the strip clubs have become. The dancers are making less lately and their greed tends to be growing to make up for it.Agreed, I used to visit Curves in Tucson and there was an incident where the dancer wanted $30 per FLOOR DANCE which she did not inform me prior starting. So 3 songs in and I owe her $90. Like GTFO! Get the manager! (which she never did) I haven't been back to Curves since.

Yes it's definitely uncomfortable situation where now I must ask "oh how much?" (after talking to her a bit) then go "oh no thank you!" Otherwise, you'll have to ask her upfront to avoid wasting time which kills the mood completely.

It's definitely sad state indeed.

[WhiteSun777]

This spot was happening, parking lot was fairly full but mostly due to a lot of dancers.

Cover charge and quick pat down, off I go. The moment I walked in approached by two dancers. I'm like I just walked in, first one wasn't as pushy as the 2nd one.

I don't know about you but I normally like to get at least one or two drinks in before doing any dances.

After getting the 1st beer, that 2nd pushy dancer came back already and pushing for VIP, kept saying "LET'S GO!" I'm like Nope!

Moved to the bar to get away, after a few beers, another dancer came by and it was that time. I didn't want to do VIP here so just floor dance at the corner spot (by the DJ booth).

I made sure it's still $10 on the floor before we start. Wasn't all that so 2 songs and done. I did the same with a few other dancers. I'm glad there's more thinner / average girls here. Usually they have more thicker girls. Don't get me wrong, I like them thicker but some of them in the past were a bit too thick for my taste.

After sampling quite a few dancers, that 2nd pushy dancer came back again (like the 4th-5th time) I told her ass I'll do FLOOR dance with her but she wasn't having it. I'm like oh well her loss! She just missed out $20!

All in all, this spot still has the better value vs other clubs. I'll be back.

[BonJovi]

Hey guys, any spots good for me to bring the wife? She's bi and would play along if we got the right girl. Would be this weekend. From out of town so I don't know where anything is. We'll be in Tempe with a car in case it matters.

[Ripped Off123]

Hey guys, any spots good for me to bring the wife? She's bi and would play along if we got the right girl. Would be this weekend. From out of town so I don't know where anything is. We'll be in Tempe with a car in case it matters.Le girls is close to Tempe and that's where the hot dancers are. It's possible to see some of them afterwards if you're willing to spend 5 or more.

[OldHoopster]

Will be in town this weekend and would like a recommendation on the best club for what I am into. Prefer a club with mainly Latin girls working. I see one named Chicas Cabernet but can't seem to find out much info about it. Any insight?

[AJaxer11]

Went to Les Girls the other night to start to check out the PHX+ strip club scene. I was not aware of the 'split' club structure that some clubs here seem to follow. I opted for the full nude side, and there were a few other gentlemen in the room. Saw some pretty good talent on stage! There were at least 15 girls working, and I got to see a majority of them dance on stage. Talked up one of the dancers and decided to try their 3 song VIP. Other than her trying to get me to go for the more "premium" VIP options, there was a lot of mutual contact and erotic sensuality. I will definitely be back.

Where can I find all the ASU girls who are trying to pay their tuition? LOL!

[Jrcnr]

Will be in town this weekend and would like a recommendation on the best club for what I am into. Prefer a club with mainly Latin girls working. I see one named Chicas Cabernet but can't seem to find out much info about it. Any insight?Latinas. Chicas is a good start. I'd check out Bandaids and Liter; they'll have the Latinas and Cubans too.