Strip Club Reports

[Higgs Boson]

Anybody been to this club? Saw it on of those ad magazines when you leave the strip club.It's nice enough though nothing special on the nights I've visited. I reported some months back about "Day Glo" night. On a previous visit I met a hot dancer who I really liked. I haven't seen her since but I haven't made many visits. Been meaning to stop by again.

Higgs.

[Deboinair]

It's nice enough though nothing special on the nights I've visited. I reported some months back about "Day Glo" night. On a previous visit I met a hot dancer who I really liked. I haven't seen her since but I haven't made many visits. Been meaning to stop by again.

Higgs.Thanks. Have you ever been there during the day? I'm an avid day time guy. Meaning I'm basically like a 2 pm to 8 pm kind of guy.

[Deboinair]

Yeah, the main purpose of the VIP areas is to suck, as in, suck your wallet dry.


Higgs.I agree with this in Phoenix. Coming from Miami VIP is $25 and a whole lot of action. I did my due diligence with asking people and I didn't hear anything spectacular from anybody that made me want to do it. If they did get any action, they over paid for it. From the way I see it, it's best to get that $10 vs getting the same kind of action for $25.

[Higgs Boson]

Thanks. Have you ever been there during the day? I'm an avid day time guy. Meaning I'm basically like a 2 pm to 8 pm kind of guy.Sorry, I have no idea what it's like during the day.

Higgs.

[PhxGuy1]

Saw Ariel at Blue Moon. Thin blondish spinner with medium cups. Had a great private dance. She really gets into it. Highly recommended.

[Poopy6923]

Is she as much fun as baby?

[PhxGuy1]

Is she as much fun as baby?Pretty close.

[Kujo69]

Yeah, the main purpose of the VIP areas is to suck, as in, suck your wallet dry.I beg to differ, I generally have a much better time in the VIP areas, perhaps you aren't choosing the right girls, but to each his own I guess.

[Dick North]

I beg to differ, I generally have a much better time in the VIP areas, perhaps you aren't choosing the right girls, but to each his own I guess.I agree with you Kujo69.

The VIP can provide a much better experience depending on your desires, the girl, your wallet and the club.

DN.

[Peacekeeper]

Went to blue moon this evening and sat down to talk with ariel. What a stuck up girl. She only wanted half hour or an hour dance and refuse to do 3 for 41 while there were just me and another gentleman.

In the entire club.

[Danimal Forth]

Shooting in the Essex back parking lot last night. One person killed and another injured. Report doesn't say anything about motive.

[Danimal Forth]

Found out that Babe's is closed. Been shut down since late October. Nobody reported that, right?

Stopped by Skin to kill some time and got good dances from Diamond for $10. Definitely surprised all around. Might actually go back.

[Kujo69]

Found out that Babe's is closed. Been shut down since late October. Nobody reported that, right? Apparently there's not much market for $20 air dances from average looking girls. Back in it's heyday, you couldn't find many clubs anywhere that had the type of talent that this place had, they just failed to adjust to the changing times though and were left in the dust. Hopefully, someone can resurrect it (as it's close to where I live).

[Dick North]

Apparently there's not much market for $20 air dances from average looking girls. Back in it's heyday, you couldn't find many clubs anywhere that had the type of talent that this place had, they just failed to adjust to the changing times though and were left in the dust. Hopefully, someone can resurrect it (as it's close to where I live).I don't believe that Babes had a chance to adjust to the changing times as the Snottsdale City Council made sure of that. I haven't been there in several years as it is not fun having to watch your table dancer with binoculars.

DN.

[DontKnowMe19]

Found out that Babe's is closed. Been shut down since late October. Nobody reported that, right?

Stopped by Skin to kill some time and got good dances from Diamond for $10. Definitely surprised all around. Might actually go back.Babe's is gone, finally. I'm not sad to see it go. 2nd worst club I've been too besides Nightmare Palace. (Dream Palace). I went there cause of the whole Jenna Jameson owning a club in Scottsdale. But I digress. SKINS use to be my go to club, til a stuck up waitress ruined any chance of me returning. Bought 4 waters from there, and she come up to me and says there is a 2 drink minimum. I said I've been here for 2 hours and had multiple drinks. But than she threatened to call the bouncer. He came over and said I was good and shouldn't have been bothered. But she made a stink and I decided to leave. Had a great time there. Close to sealing some deals with 2 dancers, but this killed all progress.

[RZM1231]

Hi fellows, being checking out a few different clubs in past few weeks and I finally made some time to report, I'm going to start with the oldest visit.

I stoped at Chicas about 4 weeks ago on a Friday night. Had some fun here before and was hoping to do so again. Saw quiet a few ladies mostly latinas and ebony girls. Although I do love the darker skin girls, the ones here are very pushy, at one point one almost demanded singles claiming that she earned them simply because I was sitting on a table that faced the stage and didn't tip her when she was on it. I politely told her that she wasn't getting any money from me and just turned and walked away. I left shortly after since none of the other girls approached me even though I was tipping them when they were on stage.

After that let down I made my way to BM, didn't see much there either except for Ariel, cute sexy and peky Cs, she can definitely hold a conversation which is a rare thing now a days, had 2 very intimate dances with her, my only complaint would be that she did smelled a bit like smoke. I saw an entry regarding her here in the forum and I most say I had a very different experience from what was posted.

The following Monday, work let off early so me and a coworker of mine decided to visit T&A on Central, no cover on that night was a good start. I didn't really see much talent other than a few bbws and that's not really my thing. About 10 min of us being there a fight broke out by the stage and soon after most of the people there joined in, including the dancers, needless to say that ruined the experience since I wasn't looking to participate in the fight nor to be there when the police shows up, so we left, I don't think I'll be stopping by for a while.

The following Saturday I made a stop by Bandaids, it was about 9 pm, the place wasn't too busy but it wasn't dead either. Met a hot Latina by the name of Tiffany, she was gorgeous, a high 9 on my scale, her twins kept constantly escaping from her V bikini. She enjoys chatting and we shared a few drinks and about 4 very good dances. I'll definitely stop by and see her again.

This past Saturday I met a buddy at Bandaids, this day the place was packed saw lots of talent but too many of them just sat at the tables looking at their phone or chatting amongst themselves. I didn't see tiffany there and that disappointment me. So we were only here for about an hour and we left. Quick side note I find the Pettitte server that we're there to be very cute, shame they don't dance.

We than headed to the Newest T&A on 24th and McDowell, the place was empty. I chatted a couple of the dancers and even asked for a dance from a really cute ebony girl, I asked her to come by after she got off the stage but she didn't, we waited for about 20 min and than we left. It was still early and we headed to Chicas, hoping for better results.

At chicas, I met a Pettitte dancer, she could be Asian but after chatting with her I learned that she is native. One of the few hot native girls out there. I couldn't catch her name clearly, I think it was rianna or something close to that. She has long legs, a firm perky butt, a pair of Bs, and a really cute face. I'll definitely will come see her again as she can also hold a decent conversation.

As far as my experiences with the VIP areas, I mostly enjoy them as I get a much more intimate dances, I however first have a couple test dances with each girl to see if it's worth taking them to the VIP, if not I move on to the next girl or club.

Ok well that's it for now, be careful out there and good luck.

[Higgs Boson]

I don't believe that Babes had a chance to adjust to the changing times as the Snottsdale City Council made sure of that. I haven't been there in several years as it is not fun having to watch your table dancer with binoculars.LOL How true!

Over the years I probably visited Babes 4 or 5 times, maybe once every 18-24 months. The last couple of times I met a hot dancer on each visit but the dancers and I might as well been in separate rooms.

Considering that Sugar 44 is relatively close by, why waste the time and money at Babes if you can get a decent dance at the other club ?

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

One of the girls told me she was robbed in the Bandaids parking lot late on a Friday night. Just a warning to the girls out there to be careful with walking alone.Sorry for the very late comment on this. Upon request the Bandaids security guys will accompany dancers outside to their vehicles.

It's unfortunate but the dancers are vulnerable especially if they've had a good evening. I know of one case where a dancer was followed from a club and relieved of her earnings at gunpoint in the parking lot of a well-known 24 hour restaurant. That's bad enough but she could have been followed home where she had family.

A few weeks ago dancers were attacked at Xplicit's outdoor break / smoking area for their money by a group of women.

Probably like many here, after a set of lap dances I like to slip bills into the waistband / string of the dancer's thong. I'm re-thinking this after two dancers I know had that money disappear in the club, very likely to the fingers of customers or other dancers as they moved through the crowd.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

Bandaids has been slow lately. That's ok if you want to have your pick of the ladies but it also backfires when they decide to stop showing up. Several of them are cutting back their work hours lately.

I've ventured into some of the other clubs lately.

Liked Bourbon Street more than I expected. Didn't hang around too long. Sugar 44 wasn't worth the cover on a Saturday night and probably won't get a repeat.

Been quite a while since anybody updated on Elite. I had one of the free passes and figured it was worth taking a look even though I only had about fifteen minutes.

Sat at the bar and quickly got approached. At first I thought she was more of a hostess after she offered a tour of the back where the touching options were explained. Another girl ended up tagging along which was probably a deliberate tactic. They made it very clear there is no mutual contact except in the back. Naturally paying for the block of time doesn't cover tipping the girl.

Dances outside the private area, or whatever they called it, are $10 and $25. I think the cheap ones are on a metal bench and the others are just behind that and a sheer curtain. This whole area is right by the front where everybody has to walk past.

The stage setup is a little unusual. Odd shape and it seemed low. Quite a few seats around the perimeter.

I returned to my drink at the bar and another girl from out of town came by. She was pretty and I would have tried a dance if I hadn't had to run. If her story was true I really never made sense of why she picked that club to work in though.

This girl was not even from Arizona and she goes to school on the other side of the country. I have talked to plenty of ASU girls who drive across town and don't want to work so close to home. My attention was taken by the other ladies while I was there so I didn't get to pay much attention to the demographics. (I did see an Asian girl which can be a rarity.) My guts still says that most of them are college students.

Considering my impression of the place there were a lot more people than I expected even for a Saturday night. I'm thinking I probably saw 15-20 ladies around.

[DavePHX]

Dave's Adventure reports 12/22/2015.

Had my every few month headache I need a quick snap back from long-time Chiro near old home in Biltmore area. He grew up near Toronto and knows of all my decades of Canada sexwork adventures.

Since down in that area and hadn't had a female body in my hands for about 2 months stopped in at both Hi-Liter and Bandaids.

Arrive about 4 PM H-LIter. Got about the last two spots in parking. However, while a far number of customers dancer said most of the cars were dancers and were about 3 dancers for every customer. Good for Dave since he wants dances has no interest in drinks or stage dancing.

Reily originally from Mexico soon in my lap. Good English can understand accent and nice talk before dances. Nice body about average 3 on my 0-5 intimacy scale (5 rare).

Next Jean who has only worked here a few weeks, previously from Sugar 44. Nice 3 ranking.

Next LeAnn from New Jersey tall and very think (I like slender but not so I feel bones). Nice but a bit mechanical. Enjoyed but 2 on my intimacy scale.

Lastly Sky, good talker, from Payson where she has hair studio. Comes to Phoenix to work at H-Liter only every month or so. Nice. 3 on intimacy scale.

As usual lots of nice bodies here, great personalities, can find my preferred smaller natural breasts and music isn't as annoying as at some clubs like Bandaids. I just ignore the music, not forced to have any drinks and as always enjoy the dancers and don't get bored like with some clubs since can't get offers for dancers. A number of dancers mentioned how they like the management here and the closeness as a family with other dancers.

Left about 5 PM or so and to avoid rush hour going North to home, went to Bandaids. (reminder to self to stock up on free entry coupons. Have zillions in car for Hi-Liter (which didn't need at 4 PM, and they recently redid) but only had one left for Bandaids.

Bandaids. Very few cars in lot which is unusual but from recent more negative reviews makes sense.

As I walk by the bar area almost grabbed by Gi-Gi?. Heavy accent and kept saying do all in VIP as I was trying to say No VIP (never have been in since not interested in "extras" I agreed to be. Dragged sort of. To the dance area and right side chairs (as enter) Other side was quite full. Gi-Gi was wild, not my type and huge fake breasts not my thing. Just 1 dance and low on my intimacy scale.

Observing I wasn't sure wanted to stay long since most dancers too overweight for my tastes. A couple more my type seemed more than wild shaking butt types that my interest in more close sensual intimacy not wild bouncy.

I am confused by my notes and bad memory. Think next was "gabby" unless I have her mixed up with Gi-Gi who isn't in my fast writing notes I try and be discreet in writing. Whoever next was about average but a bit more wild then my preferred sensual.

Last was most interesting and oddly most remembered. Could never understand her name, I think it started with an "I". She didn't sit in lap like every one else but across the table. She was cute and she tried so hard to communicate but at first could not understand a word she said. Especially with the loud blaring obnoxious noise some call music. I think it was rap repeating over and over some sexy words could not even understand. Something about getting big.

I finally understood she was from Cuba and had very poor English (plus accent). She may have understood English better than she could speak it and I often have problem with accents. Not to mention the noise of the rap crap.

Did 2 dances and while too wild and sexy and couldn't get her to settle down by my touch which works well sometimes, I was attracted to her nice smile, cute face, she looked you in the eye, nice body and enjoyed her even though very low on my intimacy scale.

At about 6 PM I counted only five customers most getting dances in the chairs. I think there were a few more in the VIP area. The dancers were on their 2nd rotation on stage.

I had my eye on two other dancers I would have done dance with after turning down about 3 offers that I just wasn't attracted to (too large bodies or breasts).

There was a nice looking older gentlemen in the corner table next to me. By older not like elder Dave but maybe 40's. Older than many customers. He had attractive taller black dancer for a long time that seemed more my kind of interaction with him. Old Dave was thinking she looked like the original Gi-GI but confused since had much nicer smaller breasts than the big fake ones I don't like. She had black boots and green? G-string. I tried to smile and make eye-contact when she left him and was on stage. After her stage dance she headed in my direction. Until detoured into the lap of another guy on my left. Again her interaction with him was more like what I like vs. Just wild bouncy! But he got many dances from her or just talked in lap long time. I got up and asked the guy at the next table that had her before if he knew her name. He was very friendly but said he never got her name. They talked so long just in lap seemed he was a regular of hers but I guess not.

Another dancer that I would have danced with was very tall and on stage had very good flexibility and very long legs (Black). I had seen her on stage on two rounds but she always just disappeared into the bar area and never worked the floor.

I decided to leave and going out noted "attractive black flexible, tall, long legs" was wrapped around a guy at the bar.

Although I didn't find my level of intimacy today like I often do, I did enjoy the various dancers. I sorely miss Mississauga's nude-reverse-release adult body rubs with no legal issues and wish I could find that in Phoenix from the right person. In the meantime I enjoy occasional strip club visits, although would prefer a different type of atmosphere and in a bed or massage table!

[DrGori]

Sat at the bar and quickly got approached. At first I thought she was more of a hostess after she offered a tour of the back where the touching options were explained. Another girl ended up tagging along which was probably a deliberate tactic. They made it very clear there is no mutual contact except in the back. Naturally paying for the block of time doesn't cover tipping the girl.
Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know how much the back room cost and for how long? Thanks.

[Danimal Forth]

Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know how much the back room cost and for how long? Thanks.I had to think about it for a inute. About 90% sure they said 50 for half and 100 for an hour. They gave me no clues about how tipping would go.

[Kujo69]

Thanks for the info. Do you happen to know how much the back room cost and for how long? Thanks.Be leery as I believe they have the same owners as Dream Palace.

[Higgs Boson]

Inspired by the work of Rebel leader Danimal Forth, droid RZM1231, Jedi Dave and other members here of the Rebel Alliance, the sub atomic particle conducted scouting missions. All hopes were on finding the whereabouts of Tim47 Skywalker who was rumored to be on the legendary frozen planet of Minnesota.

Dec 23. Late afternoon. With the advance work done by Jedi Dave, I believed it was time for a return visit to the Hi Liter. I hadn't been here much since they raised the dance rate in some locations and played pricing games with the VIP area. The parking lot was full. Inside, I hung out by the bar to look over the situation. The place was packed and people were still arriving. Not a single wookie but good looking dancers were patrolling the tables. Had a couple of drinks. It would have been difficult to find a good place to sit if I left the bar. One dancer recognized me and chatted with me by the bar for a couple of minutes. Though a friendly person, she doesn't do a lot for me otherwise. Decided to move on and check out.

Bandaids, same evening. The place wasn't really rocking it for me tonight. Since the Halloween fiasco with Yoko, I've been little distant with her but she's been flirting and attempting to make conversation over the past weeks. After talk and flirtations with her at the bar over drinks, I took her suggestion of having some dances in the lounge. She didn't push for the VIP as last time but on this occasion she didn't do a lot for me either. Nice body though. Every time my hands lifted to check out a breast, small though they are, she gently removed the hand. Eventually I got tired of that, thanked her, then staked out a new place in the lounge where I was immediately pounced upon by the latinas. Touching was no problem for the latinas on duty that evening and augmented breasts were the norm. They were excellent to look at but unfortunately felt a little like large skin-covered nerf balls only with perky nipples. The second latina paid special attention to the Mini Boson, a sub component of the subatomic particle. I definitely did not mind a bit. The evening wasn't a total waste but fell short of potential.

(to be continued with shenanigans from Christmas Eve).

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Be leery as I believe they have the same owners as Dream Palace.I have on good authority that this is the case. Expect to pay a lot for not much.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Dec 24, aka Christmas Eve. This night was going to be completely different. I knew not all the clubs were going to be open. Out of curiosity, I drove by Dirty's, Fox's and T&A on Grand. All closed. I haven't been by Fox's lately, maybe it's closed permanently. The first open club was Essex. The parking lot didn't have a lot of cars but it wasn't deserted as on Halloween. There were perhaps a dozen customers inside and they were mostly watching the NFL game. Only one dancer so far and the DJ announced others were on the way. I didn't have to wait for the others. The one on stage looked nice from the bar. A cute black dancer HWP plus perhaps extra 20 pounds. This gave her a cushy booty and added to her cuddliness as we got dances by the third stage. Nice and friendly personality added to the experience. It was time to see what other clubs were doing before ending at the inevitable and final destination.

Chicas was next. I hadn't been there for a few weeks and wanted to check it out. There has been some turnover in dancers with many being fired since June. Went inside without having to pay a cover or get frisked, possibly due to the door security being distracted by the two guys ahead of me. The club went to asking for a cover almost all the time, including days, to cut back on less savory characters hanging out all day. Rumor has it some of those characters were suppliers to the dancers. I proceeded to the middle of the bar, got my beverage and soon had a very hot black dancer next to me. Let's call her Dancer 1. She was relatively tall, perhaps 6 feet in her heels, gorgeous model quality face, and the rest of her was quite nice too. A tad thicker than typical HWP, but thicker in the best places. She couldn't miss that I thought she was hot. In fact, I truthfully told her she was beautiful. She was new to dancing. Eventually we got to the question of dances and she asked me how much I'the pay her. I gestured to the booths with the padded seats and said: "If we go over there it'll be $10 a dance. " (the going rate for that location at Chicas). She said that she doesn't do $10 dances. I replied with "It was very nice meeting you" and I moved to the end of the bar closest to the stage. I'm a sucker for attentive beautiful women but I wasn't stupid or drunk enough to pay that much for a regular lap dance. Not with the history of quality dances at Chicas. I'm not cheap. I'll have more dances if I'm enjoying the experience and sometimes kick in a bit extra.

I sat with my beverage to look over the club and I was now approached by a very hot beautiful black spinner. Even in her heels she's only 5' 6". Let's call her Dancer 2. She was also new to Chicas and was there because her regular club was closed that evening. The usual casual conversation at the bar and we agreed to do some dances but first she had to take her turn on the stage. I told her I'd wait for her and she went to the stage. At that moment, Dancer 1 casually strolled by and then turned to me and said she reconsidered my offer. Sorry Babe, I'm waiting for Dancer 2 to get off stage. Dancer 2 returned and we hit the booths for some dances. Not the hottest dances I've ever had but hot enough it was very enjoyable and I'd definitely do it again. I'd also return to see if Dancer 1 was still around. I might have stuck around for that experience but it was time for the final destination. It was time for Bandaids.

Bandaids. Arrived perhaps around Midnight or later. No surprise to anyone here, this is my favorite club. It goes through phases which is part of the excitement for me. It's always a neighborhood bar atmosphere and there are times when the energy level in the lounge takes a dive or the dancers don't excite me. This was the case the night before, a Tuesday evening. Then there are the times with there is a new dancer or two who really excite me and that was tonight. I immediately saw two very hot HWP black dancers. Perhaps these were the two hot dancers Jedi Dave noticed only two nights before. One of them had a very bright blonde hairstyle. I'm sure Dave would have noticed that hair color when he was there and mentioned it but hairstyles and colors can be easily changed. The blonde color went nicely with her dayglo yellow / green g-string thong and both were a striking contrast to her skin color. The thong was stretched around an almost athletic butt. A wide mesh stretch half-top barely contained her be cup naturals. I was in love again. She had been talking with another customer but then our eyes locked. She walked over to me and after the briefest of introductions, we immediately found a seat in the lounge. One of the hottest sets of dances I've had for awhile. She definitely had me under her spell and she knew it. Around song 4, 5, or 6, she offered the idea that I could take her and her sister shopping. (Perhaps the other hot dancer was her sister). I didn't reply. I'm a sucker for attentive beautiful women but I wasn't stupid or drunk enough to do something like that for someone I just met. Maybe after the second meeting. (ha!) After our dances she returned to her previous customer for some additional dances before the 2 AM closing, and I was out the door.

Overall, a strip club evening that was very enjoyable, and at not just one club but the best was at Bandaids.

The bad news is that there wasn't one clue about the whereabouts of Time47 Skywalker. Perhaps there will be another scouting expedition very soon.

Some quick notes about other things: stopped by Roxy 10 PM on a Saturday night about 3 weeks ago. They wanted $20 for cover. I declined and moved on to somewhere else. The guy at the door claimed that all drinks were a dollar. That's nice but it says nothing about the dancers inside.

Also, if you haven't been following the news from CERN, they're all hot and bothered about hints of a new subatomic particle. They plan to run some more tests on colliders the next year or so. If they had only asked me, I could have told them it was my Uncle Ernie in town for the holidays.

Higgs.

[DavePHX]

Higgs post reminded me I also was out on Christmas eve. I was there a few hours earlier than Higgs.

The fewest cars in lot maybe ever seen. Was maybe 10 customers and about same number of dancers. Most were cuddled up with I assume boyfriends since weren't dancing except while on stage. Only a few working the floor. Came back to see if the dancers I liked the looks of a few days earlier might be here on 12/24.

Only got 1 dance each from two and my notes are hard to read and mind too cluttered with data since then!

Think Kelley that has danced there since July but a 0 on my intimacy scale.

"Mary Kelley" (similar name of 1st) can't read my scibble notes but I believe very low on intimacy score but enjoyed body.

Then went to Hi-Liter with better success as always.

A bit more busy based on ratio of size of building but not the usual larger crowd. After all it is xtmas eve!

However, for a long time was just bored with almost no dancers working the floor. Quite a few cuddled in arms of guys. There was a kind of bald guy immediately to my left that was having lots of dances and snugged in lap times with attractive dancer having my type of great intimacy interaction. But she must have been with him for half an hour or more. I was a bit jealous since no one was approaching me except the waitress. Rarely am I bothered for drinks since not my interest and I mentioned to her I had been coming here for decades and don't recall any minimun drink requirements. Since didn't see any or many dancers working the floor was going to go if had to buy a drink. Waitress said she would speak to manager and I had decided to leave instead of buying a drink. Then she didn't bother me for a long time. Then when I was about to leave anyway she came back and said I either had to have 2 drinks or have dances. I said I'd love to have dances but no one was working the floor! I didn't see her then talk to any dancers but all of a sudden dancers were approaching me.

Jada. Very nice both talking in lap and did unusual 3 dances. Only really my type get more than 2. Rated 4+ on my 0-5 intimacy scale with 5 rare. Was from Iowa (I originally from MN and had girlfriend near her home city I flew or drove to meet often at her place).

Carley. Attractive Black gal. One of the "massage gals" she sluck up behind me and started doing quite good massage on my neck etc. Attractive and hopeing she was also a dancer. Yes and liked my firm massage on her nice body. 2 dances a nice 4 on my intimacy scale.

Audrey. A bit older perhaps, good lap discussion and nice dance, although she is rare in that doesn't allow touching breast area which was disappointing since my favorate and often with great response doing breast / pectorial massage. She was nice but low on intimacy scale.

It was now approaching 1 AM. I always leave by 1. Have no idea why this is the only club that isn't topless after 1 AM. But enjoyable time.

[Danimal Forth]

Rarely am I bothered for drinks since not my interest and I mentioned to her I had been coming here for decades and don't recall any minimum drink requirements. Since didn't see any or many dancers working the floor was going to go if had to buy a drink.Clearly a short-sighted move to boot customers on a slow night and even more annoying when they don't recognize you as a regular. Babe's used to charge for the first drinks at the door IIRC. Either way, other places with minimums are generally very vocal about it up front. I suspect we'll see more enforcement of this rule after the latest rounds of LE and then finally the shootings at Essex a few weeks ago.

I've always thought Bandaids was cool about never saying anything. Girls will complain to me that guys just sit at tables taking up space not tipping or getting dances. Not that ladies aren't mostly clueless about the guy's perspective I've pointed out there's a sign on the wall behind the counter which does state a two-drink policy. Although what technicality are they going to use when he guzzles his two cheap beers and then sits for the next six hours? Loitering, probably?

I'm curious to hear what they're saying when you go in for the first time. They have that new system that's probably recording every visit and pulling up the history when they scan my identification. Also Bandaids just changed their signage (again) regarding coming back in. Now it just flat says in and out is not allowed at the "establishment". They must be serious when they use big words.

Months ago I got a phone call as I was headed in so I answered and sat there in the parking lot behind the drivers seat. New-ish security guy came by and rapped on the window to tell me I needed to be off the property. I would have just walked to the sidewalk except for the traffic noise and I knew the call would be brief but less than a minute later he did it again. I guess I thought there might be a thirty-second tolerance.

Since I could rant for a while I'll just stop now.

http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-ap-willimantic-strip-club-cover-charge-1228-20151227-story.html (Woman goes on baseball bat rampage at strip club over cover charge).

[VeryBigBuck]

Late report.

I was in town for a golf trip recently and made two visits to my favorite club from years ago when I lived in the valley.

The first night was unremarkable, had one set of high milage dances from a pretty young thing, but really I wanted to post about the second night.

I arrived about 5 pm, semi light crowd, got some dances from ladies, nothing to report about. Then I stage tipped a very slender brunette girl, 20 something, native of the valley. She volenteered to come over and keep my lap warm to which I readly agreed. After some small talk, we were off to the VIP area.

When getting a dance I always push the limits early so within a few seconds of her starting, my mouth was on her nipples which she seemed to enjoy. I was rewarded with signifant attention paid to Mr. Happy and I showed my appriciation by moaning in her ear. The more I got turned, on the more she got turned on untill durring the fourth dance she was rubbung her pussy on me so viguriously that it was clear she was tring to get herself off. It was noticable because the stripper next door stopped what she was doing to watch.

For the fifth dance she colapsed on top of me and my hands were in her pants, tugging her nipples, holding her like a lady like to be held.

[Bigtim47]

To my good strip club friends, Higgs and Dave, and all others on here, Happy New Year and good clubbing this year. I will be visiting for a few weeks in early February, and looking forward to a few trips with Higgs and Dave to some westside clubs that I have never been to yet. Higgs, I'm not sure that I can live up to the rigors of being a Star Wars character. Tim47 Skywalker. By the way, Minnesota has not been the terrible cold "planet" so far this winter. Love el nino.

Bourbon and Hi-Liter are my two favorite clubs in the valley. Wow, the prior report at Bourbon does surprise me a bit, but fun is to be had by lot's of beautiful young ladies there. I know we all like something a bit different, but these two clubs work for me.

Higgs, I saw on another site, that Christies in Glendale has closed. True? Never been there, if it's like the other two, then I have not missed much.

Best Wishes,

BigTim47.

[Higgs Boson]

To my good strip club friends, Higgs and Dave, and all others on here, Happy New Year and good clubbing this year. I will be visiting for a few weeks in early February, and looking forward to a few trips with Higgs and Dave to some westside clubs that I have never been to yet. Higgs, I'm not sure that I can live up to the rigors of being a Star Wars character. Tim47 Skywalker. By the way, Minnesota has not been the terrible cold "planet" so far this winter. Love el nino.
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Higgs, I saw on another site, that Christies in Glendale has closed. True? Never been there, if it's like the other two, then I have not missed much.
Hey Bigtim47,

I have a feeling that other west side clubs aren't going to measure up to BSC and the Hi Liter for you. But I know we're working on your life-time statistics, so we'll take a tour and do three or four clubs when you return. Here's what I did last weekend, Saturday and Sunday nights. Info on Christies' Glendale below.

Bliss. Started Saturday evening at Bliss because I happened to be in the area. I arrived around 9:30 PM. Dull, dull, dull. Not many customers and when the few dancers weren't on stage they were hanging out with regulars or staff. Can't say there were any particular beauties here except one and she wore what looked like a mid-calf length bathrobe, OK, dressing gown, on and off stage over her one piece costume. Not to say the rest of the dancers were hideous, just not noteworthy. Obviously my opinion. If you live in the area or visiting something nearby it might be worth a stop.

Following Bliss I drove past Fox's (Closed) and continued to Essex. Met the cutie from the week before. Essex has done a slight remodel. You might not even notice it at first but here's the changes I saw. The main stage is now an island with seating on all sides. The second stage might be the same size but lowered by perhaps two feet. The pole is now at one end of that stage. The third stage is now also an island with seating all around. The overall remodel looks nice and allows for more seating. That's the big news, otherwise not much going on, so I went on to Bandaids. Not much going on here so I called it a night.

Sunday, I happened to are on the far West side, so I stopped by Xplicit around 10 PM. You might remember that it's across the street from the Glendale landfill. I don't remember smelling the distinctive odor before. The club was probably downwind that evening. Ten dollar cover. If you haven't been here it's well lit and lots of glitter but not as opulent as the Christies's clubs. One stage with a pole all the way to the top of a very tall ceiling. OK, you're wondering about the dancers. Mostly white and latina, a couple black, and a couple asian on the main floor. I didn't bother going up the stairs to the second level. Some fake boobs. No stunning beauties. Overall atmosphere: dull, dull, dull. Left around 10:45.

Drove by Christies' Glendale (formerly Pink). Not only is it closed but the parking lot has been closed off with temporary fencing. No external signs of possible remodeling. Continued down Grand and swung through the T&A Grand parking lot. Only three or four cars. That would account for the manager, DJ, bartender, and security guy. No point in even parking my car.

Continued to Chicas. OMG, it was depressing. Maybe two or three attractive dancers, two latina, one black. The other ten or twelve ranged from plain to frightening. I had one approach me who was the size of a small house. She was beyond thick or BBW. I finished my beverage and got out as quickly as I could.

Finished at Bandaids. Found my GFE latina. She has transitioned to being very naughty and I loved every moment. Closed down the club this evening.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

Not much to report on the club front. Hopefully low content is better than no content.

Bandaids was busy on Friday afternoon. Busiest I've seen in quite a while. Many of the dancers came back after a long break. I hear that Saturday was super dead again. Mostly guys watching the playoff games.

Decided to swing by Cheetah's on a recent Friday night too. Lots of thin, white girls. Can't say many were warm or friendly. I have no problem starting a conversation but I would rather they showed some initiative to do it themselves. Got dances from a young and petite black girl. She was cute at like 5' 1" and 100 lbs, unfortunately she didn't give me any reasons to continue with more.

[Lyle416]

Hey guys going to visit Bourbon Street sometime this week or next during the afternoon. Is there anyone you guys would recommend getting a dance from? Looking for some decent mileage? Also thinking about visiting The Blue Moon but heard its in a bad area. Anyway thanks in advance.

Roll TIDE!

[Bigtim47]

Hey guys going to visit Bourbon Street sometime this week or next during the afternoon. Is there anyone you guys would recommend getting a dance from? Looking for some decent mileage? Also thinking about visiting The Blue Moon but heard its in a bad area. Anyway thanks in advance.

Roll TIDE!Hey Lyle, hope you bet on Bama, and have extra $$ to spend at Bourbon. I do like the afternoons at Bourbon. A lot less hectic. I always Enjoy Gina. She has been there for a long time. Dances most everyday, M-F. Stephanie is also much fun. Usually works Sundays, Tuesdays, and maybe Thursday / Fridays. I have a great time with both of these ladies. Report back on your experiences.

[kitkat75386]

Hey Guys,

I don't post to often, but I wanted to share my experience at BM last Friday afternoon about 3 pm. I was surprised at how different the club was this day. Being a Friday afternoon where guys just get paid I though it would be busy and the best girls would be there. That was not the case. First there was a different manager than I usually see there. I think I heard the girls say his name was Terry. It seemed like the girls did not like Terry at all. It was kinda cold in the there and the girls asked if he had the a / see on. He look and said he did and turned it on the heat, but the one girl said to the other why would he have the a / see on and the other girl said because he hates us.

Anyway one of the girls did ask me if I wanted a drink (water or soda), but then sat back down behind me with the other girls. They talked and played on there phones and then walked to the back and then came back and sat back down. There were probably about 8-10 guys there, but only 1 or 2 of the girls tried to talk to the guys. I was there for 45 minutes and was only approached by 1 girl to talk or see if I wanted a dance. I didn't want a dance from any of them, but the point was that they all just sat there. I saw another guy walk in and sit for about 10 minutes and then walk out. I left right after he did. It was just a really different atmosphere than what I usually see there.

[Higgs Boson]

Not much to report on the club front. Hopefully low content is better than no content.It's always good to hear others experience.


Bandaids was busy on Friday afternoon. Busiest I've seen in quite a while. Many of the dancers came back after a long break. I hear that Saturday was super dead again. Mostly guys watching the playoff games.
I've heard that Fridays afternoons are usually busy at Bandaids but afternoons don't usually work for me. Yeah, things were slow on Saturday evenings during the playoff games. I stopped by last Sunday, around 9 PM and the place seemed dead but one of the dancers told me it was a typical start for a Sunday evening. She was right because things got lively in about an hour later. Customers appeared, more dancers showed up for the late shift, and the lounge was perhaps three-quarters full. The dancers present seemed to do OK. I got dances with one of my favorites who returned after being away for awhile.


Decided to swing by Cheetah's on a recent Friday night too. Lots of thin, white girls. Can't say many were warm or friendly. I have no problem starting a conversation but I would rather they showed some initiative to do it themselves. Got dances from a young and petite black girl. She was cute at like 5' 1" and 100 lbs, unfortunately she didn't give me any reasons to continue with more.I don't get Cheetah's. I haven't been inside for a couple of years because it just felt like a waste of time. Before then, I would stop by about once a year on a Saturday evening, get a drink at the bar and the dancers would all sit around a table or two, getting up only to go through their turn on stage. Sometimes I thought maybe I was just coming by at the wrong time. I've met former Cheetah's dancers at Bandaids and had a great time with them. Maybe there's something about culture or management of Cheetah's and dancers. I've had similar issues with dancers at Dirty's (formerly Stilettos and Teasers) where they hang out in the smoking patio or dressing room and never emerge.

Higgs.

[Deboinair]

I was wondering if anybody has been to Lavish. Is it set up like Blue Moon. The theater type seating? Any Bars or anything?

[DavePHX]

I was wondering if anybody has been to Lavish. Is it set up like Blue Moon. The theater type seating? Any Bars or anything?It has very negative reviews on another site both when it was briefly Blue Moon West and now Lavish. Place has had many owners and names over the last many years.

[Slacker30]

Hey Guys,

I don't post to often, but I wanted to share my experience at BM last Friday afternoon about 3 pm. I was surprised at how different the club was this day. Being a Friday afternoon where guys just get paid I though it would be busy and the best girls would be there. That was not the case. First there was a different manager than I usually see there. I think I heard the girls say his name was Terry. It seemed like the girls did not like Terry at all. It was kinda cold in the there and the girls asked if he had the a / see on. He look and said he did and turned it on the heat, but the one girl said to the other why would he have the a / see on and the other girl said because he hates us.

Anyway one of the girls did ask me if I wanted a drink (water or soda), but then sat back down behind me with the other girls. They talked and played on there phones and then walked to the back and then came back and sat back down. There were probably about 8-10 guys there, but only 1 or 2 of the girls tried to talk to the guys. I was there for 45 minutes and was only approached by 1 girl to talk or see if I wanted a dance. I didn't want a dance from any of them, but the point was that they all just sat there. I saw another guy walk in and sit for about 10 minutes and then walk out. I left right after he did. It was just a really different atmosphere than what I usually see there.I was there Friday around 4:30-5 and was treated the same way, 1 tall thicker girl got my water and NO one out of the 7 girls came to talk to me. Saw the prices posted on the tables now, tip included (haven't been there since they did that). I left it was a weird vibe.

[Slacker30]

It's always good to hear others experience.



I don't get Cheetah's. I haven't been inside for a couple of years because it just felt like a waste of time. Before then, I would stop by about once a year on a Saturday evening, get a drink at the bar and the dancers would all sit around a table or two, getting up only to go through their turn on stage. Sometimes I thought maybe I was just coming by at the wrong time. I've met former Cheetah's dancers at Bandaids and had a great time with them. Maybe there's something about culture or management of Cheetah's and dancers. I've had similar issues with dancers at Dirty's (formerly Stilettos and Teasers) where they hang out in the smoking patio or dressing room and never emerge.

Higgs.We seem to be dealing with a new breed of dancer over the last 5 years. Younger and lacking the hustle of dancers of the late 90's and early 2000's. Like they are afraid of rejection. These girls are like the daughters of the dancers who were working in the late 90's. A different mindset which is making the clubs more boring for me with a few exceptions. They don't understand going to EVERY guy and asking for dances even if it means asking several times.

[Lyle416]

Hey Lyle, hope you bet on Bama, and have extra $$ to spend at Bourbon. I do like the afternoons at Bourbon. A lot less hectic. I always Enjoy Gina. She has been there for a long time. Dances most everyday, M-F. Stephanie is also much fun. Usually works Sundays, Tuesdays, and maybe Thursday / Fridays. I have a great time with both of these ladies. Report back on your experiences.Thank you sir I actually couldn't make it there this time. But I will certainly go there when I am back in town. I did go to HiLiter and had a great time with a blonde name Amanda.

[Higgs Boson]

We seem to be dealing with a new breed of dancer over the last 5 years. Younger and lacking the hustle of dancers of the late 90's and early 2000's. Like they are afraid of rejection. These girls are like the daughters of the dancers who were working in the late 90's. A different mindset which is making the clubs more boring for me with a few exceptions. They don't understand going to EVERY guy and asking for dances even if it means asking several times.Slacker30,

I think you're on to something there. Newer dancers thinking that everything is just going to drop in their laps when they should be dropping into our laps. They either catch on or stop showing up.

Case in point: I stopped by Bandaids last Wednesday around 5:30 after a difficult meeting. Just wanted to relax with a brew which turned out to be three. Not in the mood for dances, just wanted the neighborhood bar environment. Even so, I observed what was going on. As usual, Estrella and Kelly approached me for dances. Also Tyler, who I don't remember seeing before. I observed two really hot dancers who entered in their street clothes, changed and then hung out on the stools between the bar and lounge. Occasionally they got up, looked into the lounge. When one had to take her time on the bar stage, the other just tagged along. I understand wanting to hang out with a buddy and all but they weren't going to get any customers the way they were operating. And they didn't during the couple hours I hung out there. I had never seen them before and I wouldn't be surprised if I never saw them again.

Dancers also need to adapt. One of the hottest dancers from about 12 months ago was Hazel. Wore glasses but that's not what made her hot. Pretty face and smoking hot body. But when it came to dances, she provided dances which were partly lap but mostly air. She was such a disappointment. Occasionally I meet a new dancer who thinks that dancing in front of your chair will be enough. They either catch on or they stop showing up.

Thanks for all your valuable posts.

Higgs.

[Mrmikers]

Slacker30,

I think you're on to something there. Newer dancers thinking that everything is just going to drop in their laps when they should be dropping into our laps. They either catch on or stop showing up.

Case in point: I stopped by Bandaids last Wednesday around 5:30 after a difficult meeting. Just wanted to relax with a brew which turned out to be three. Not in the mood for dances, just wanted the neighborhood bar environment. Even so, I observed what was going on. As usual, Estrella and Kelly approached me for dances. Also Tyler, who I don't remember seeing before. I observed two really hot dancers who entered in their street clothes, changed and then hung out on the stools between the bar and lounge. Occasionally they got up, looked into the lounge. When one had to take her time on the bar stage, the other just tagged along. I understand wanting to hang out with a buddy and all but they weren't going to get any customers the way they were operating. And they didn't during the couple hours I hung out there. I had never seen them before and I wouldn't be surprised if I never saw them again.

Dancers also need to adapt. One of the hottest dancers from about 12 months ago was Hazel. Wore glasses but that's not what made her hot. Pretty face and smoking hot body. But when it came to dances, she provided dances which were partily lap and mostly air. She was such a disappointment. Occasionally I meet a new dancer who thinks that dancing in front of your chair will be enough. They either catch on or they stop showing up.

Thanks for all your valuable posts.

Higgs.Another issue I find with this "new breed" is poor hygiene. Lots of them have ashtray breath, taco breath and funky body odor. Never used to be too bad in years past, but I've noticed it getting more and more common. On recent trips to The Candy Store (not my favorite club, but I live very close) I've encoutered one girl who smelled like she just crawled out of a clothes hamper. You could literally smell her coming from about five feet away! Another girl there, who I would really be into, just reeks of cigarettes all the time. I also see alot of times where dancers will eat something and then go straight to guys without going and using mouthwash or breath mints first. The last thing I want is for some chick to get in my face smelling like pickles or salami. These girls are really in need of some coaching from somewhere, whether it's the management or some older, "house mom" type dancers, I don't know. It really is getting hard to find exceptional dancers these days.

[Mtnboy49]

Another issue I find with this "new breed" is poor hygiene. ...... These girls are really in need of some coaching from somewhere, whether it's the management or some older, "house mom" type dancers, I don't know. It really is getting hard to find exceptional dancers these days.My ATF is Mustang in spite of the fact she smells of pot. Had not seen her for a long time and met up at Sugar 44 a year ago. Still the "special perfume". Haven't been back to the Valley of the Hotties for a good 9 months now.

Speaking of hygiene, had some VIP dances with ladies in Reno (Fantasy Girls) and Spokane (Deja Vu) years ago who put the kitty up close and oooof.

We please are not without fault either. I always try to arrive to the club newly showered and attention to breath.

[Bigtim47]

Slacker30,

I think you're on to something there. Newer dancers thinking that everything is just going to drop in their laps when they should be dropping into our laps. They either catch on or stop showing up.

Case in point: I stopped by Bandaids last Wednesday around 5:30 after a difficult meeting. Just wanted to relax with a brew which turned out to be three. Not in the mood for dances, just wanted the neighborhood bar environment. Even so, I observed what was going on. As usual, Estrella and Kelly approached me for dances. Also Tyler, who I don't remember seeing before. I observed two really hot dancers who entered in their street clothes, changed and then hung out on the stools between the bar and lounge. Occasionally they got up, looked into the lounge. When one had to take her time on the bar stage, the other just tagged along. I understand wanting to hang out with a buddy and all but they weren't going to get any customers the way they were operating. And they didn't during the couple hours I hung out there. I had never seen them before and I wouldn't be surprised if I never saw them again.

Dancers also need to adapt. One of the hottest dancers from about 12 months ago was Hazel. Wore glasses but that's not what made her hot. Pretty face and smoking hot body. But when it came to dances, she provided dances which were partly lap but mostly air. She was such a disappointment. Occasionally I meet a new dancer who thinks that dancing in front of your chair will be enough. They either catch on or they stop showing up.

Thanks for all your valuable posts.

Higgs.Gentlemen,

Yes, I agree to some degree. Many new dancers just starting out just don't understand customer service. They think that their bodies can make it all happen. I usually don't gravitate to what I call "snot nosed" young dancers. However, for quite a while I used to "teach dance" to beginners just starting out at a local club I frequent a lot. Most never lasted long, so now I usually don't waste my time. I always taught that dancing was about making a connection, mental with nice conversation, then physical by holding the customers hand to lead him to the VIP area, and then when done, taking his hand and taking him back to where he was setting. Then dammit, for a lap dance you should be on the guys lap, coddling up, and touching the guy, not jumping around. You do that on stage. Many experienced dancers still don't do this! I teach dancing is a very hard job. After the bod is in shape it becomes mental. Handling rejection, and being "on" all the time is not easy. After all I have be a customer for over 40 years. What do I know? Ha, ha.

One theory that I have is why some dancers don't work the room, and only seem to spend time with one or two customers, is that they are lining them up for an "after hours date". ?? What do you guys think?

[Higgs Boson]

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I always taught that dancing was about making a connection, mental with nice conversation, then physical by holding the customers hand to lead him to the VIP area, and then when done, taking his hand and taking him back to where he was setting. Then dammit, for a lap dance you should be on the guys lap, coddling up, and touching the guy, not jumping around. You do that on stage. Many experienced dancers still don't do this! I teach dancing is a very hard job. After the bod is in shape it becomes mental.
Yeah, as in baseball, in Yogi's words it's "ninety percent mental and the other half is physical.

My ATF (bless her wherever she is), had an expression. After several minutes of friendly conversation and getting caught up, she'd ask "So can I get naughty on your body?" I never was able to say no, especially since she was a sexy person, and with a terrific personality.



One theory that I have is why some dancers don't work the room, and only seem to spend time with one or two customers, is that they are lining them up for an "after hours date". ?? What do you guys think?I won't say it never happens. I think it's usually the dancer paying special attention to the individuals who are regulars and would like to continue that way. As you said above, it's the mental / sales / relationship part of marketing themselves. The regular may be out of money to spend that evening but it's worthwhile for the dancer to have the customer leave the club with a very positive feeling about the dancer. Given the right treatment, the customer will be counting the minutes to the next meeting. (I have that feeling for a certain dancer right now). It's certainly nicer than feeling like she took me for all I had and dropped me like a bad habit. Again, as you said, it's the mental part. Wasn't it Gypsy Rose Lee who said something like, "Tease, tease, and leave them wanting something more".

Especially in today's club economic environment when a lot of dancers complain that guys are sitting around and not getting dances, when they find a sucker, errrr, I mean a handsome customer who treats them nice, why not spend time with that wonderful guy?

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

They may be out of money to spend that evening but it's worthwhile for the dancer to have the customer leave the club with a very positive feeling about the dancer. Given the right treatment, the customer will be counting the minutes to the next meeting. (I have that feeling for a certain dancer right now). It's certainly nicer than feeling like she took me for all I had and dropped me like a bad habit. Again, as you said, it's the mental part. Wasn't it Gypsy Rose Lee who said something like, "Tease, tease, and leave them wanting something more".A huge turnoff is when they take the cash from you after the dances and just walk away. All they can think about is finding the next customer before the next song starts.

On a different note there's a fairly new latina at Bandaids named Monica. She's only 19 and she is nicely curvy in her very petite frame. She does speak minimal English though. I find her to be quite attractive even if she might be somewhat novice in the game.

And finally I had been by T&A on a Sunday afternoon and saw about four girls who really caught my eye from a distance. Sometimes they disappoint up close. Sunday is generally very slow but that day was much better.

[Deboinair]

A huge turnoff is when they take the cash from you after the dances and just walk away. All they can think about is finding the next customer before the next song starts.

On a different note there's a fairly new latina at Bandaids named Monica. She's only 19 and she is nicely curvy in her very petite frame. She does speak minimal English though. I find her to be quite attractive even if she might be somewhat novice in the game.

And finally I had been by T&A on a Sunday afternoon and saw about four girls who really caught my eye from a distance. Sometimes they disappoint up close. Sunday is generally very slow but that day was much better.This and when they ask you if you want a dance without even saying hello. Monica. Is she a brunette? I believe I saw her last Sunday at Bandaids. Comes up to me and says "Want Dance" Then says no English. I asked in Spanish if she was Cuban. She said yes. I couldn't believe it. I told her no thanks. I moved away from Miami which is pretty much all Cuban now and run into one in AZ. It was quite a shock. The no English gets on my nerves, I like to be able to communicate with a dancer. Cuban dancers that speak no English you will get the what you are talking about. Take the money and look for the next guy before song finishes.

[Danimal Forth]

This and when they ask you if you want a dance without even saying hello. Monica. Is she a brunette? I believe I saw her last Sunday at Bandaids. Comes up to me and says "Want Dance" Then says no English. I asked in Spanish if she was Cuban. She said yes. I couldn't believe it. I told her no thanks. I moved away from Miami which is pretty much all Cuban now and run into one in AZ. It was quite a shock. The no English gets on my nerves, I like to be able to communicate with a dancer. Cuban dancers that speak no English you will get the what you are talking about. Take the money and look for the next guy before song finishes.I hate the "want a dance" for sure but it's even more annoying to me when they leave on that negative note.

You're right that Monica is Cuban and I'm sure she's the one you met. There have been several Cubanas the last few years and a few still work there now. Amanda was pretty popular for a while. I totally hear what you're talking about with the business attitude and you can definitely feel the difference. My recommendation of Monica is mostly for the eye candy factor.

[Dick North]

Visited last Friday mid afternoon with the latina with the pulled back hair (nice time) and then with the thin rather angular small-titted latina who is always there (can't remember her name. Yula?)

Anyway she gave me an 'explosive' experience in VIP. Nice girl would recommend.

Then Monday (yesterday), happened to be in the area and stopped in again. Had a few dances with a new black girl. They were ok, but I noticed this petite blonde dancer who was dancing and walking through the club with no top.

The reason, I suspect, is that she had the most spectacular breasts that I maybe have ever seen. Sitting up high on her chest (where they belong), no saggage whatsoever, 100% perky and apparently all natural (I would bet $ that they are real being a certified titologist). She obviously knew that they were exceptional or she would have had a top on. Anyone know who this girl is?

Thanks.

DN.

[Higgs Boson]

Then Monday (yesterday), happened to be in the area and stopped in again. Had a few dances with a new black girl. They were ok, but I noticed this petite blonde dancer who was dancing and walking through the club with no top. The reason, I suspect, is that she had the most spectacular breasts that I maybe have ever seen. Sitting up high on her chest (where they belong), no saggage whatsoever, 100% perky and apparently all natural (I would bet $ that they are real being a certified titologist). She obviously knew that they were exceptional or she would have had a top on. Anyone know who this girl is?
Afternoons, you say? Don't usually get to the clubs during the day, but I might be able to make an exception this week. As with many physical things, it's good to get a second opinion with a close examination. If I get there and meet her, I'll pass her name along. She must be quite a sight to make an impression on you.

- Higgs.

[Dick North]

Afternoons, you say? Don't usually get to the clubs during the day, but I might be able to make an exception this week. As with many physical things, it's good to get a second opinion with a close examination. If I get there and meet her, I'll pass her name along. She must be quite a sight to make an impression on you.

- Higgs.I hope you get to see her.

This is getting to be a most expensive hobby and may have to resume golf outings (which are just as expensive this time of year).

May try to visit again on Friday.

DN.

[Danimal Forth]

Afternoons, you say? Don't usually get to the clubs during the day, but I might be able to make an exception this week. As with many physical things, it's good to get a second opinion with a close examination. If I get there and meet her, I'll pass her name along. She must be quite a sight to make an impression on you.I spotted a blonde last Saturday mid-afternoon. Mostly saw her from behind and never caught a name.

[Dick North]

I spotted a blonde last Saturday mid-afternoon. Mostly saw her from behind and never caught a name.I revisited yesterday mid-afternoon and sat at the bar.
I wanted to ask the bartender about the blonde topless girl, but she was swamped with business.
I noticed (as with every visit) there were new girls some very attractive and some not. This place is like Grand Central at times.
Jesse visited with me in VIP as did her Thai buddy (name?
Once again an enjoyable and expensive visit.

DN.

[Higgs Boson]

Saturday night, started at Roxy's at 9:30. They're still asking for $20 cover charge at the door and say the drinks inside are only a dollar. The guy collecting the cover said, and I paraphrase, "I make money at the door and make no money inside". I suppose I'll bite the bullet and take the plunge sometime. It's an interesting approach. Places like Bandaids will charge that much when they're showing UFC on PPV. I think Roxy's is focusing on discouraging the casual visitor and the riff raff, but developing a set a regulars who will stay and party most of the evening.

Dirty's is the next stop, about 10 PM, after perhaps an absence of 2-3 months. I will probably wait another two or three months for my next visit. Not a lot going on. One or two customers seated at the tables, three or four at the bar. I arrived while the previous shift of four dancers were hanging out at the bar in their street clothes, so I got to see two shifts in one sitting. Most of either set weren't particularly outstanding. There were a couple of beauties, but no real stunners. No dancer there that has me hungering for a dance or for a return to the club. One interesting event was the arrival of the pair of dancers I noted during a weekday evening visit to Bandaids. Similar to that evening, the two were inseparable. They reported to the DJ together, took the stage together, danced onstage at the same time, left the stage and disappeared into the dressing room together. I suspect they are expecting showers of singles during their time on stage, something that doesn't happen at this club. I made a pass through the patio and left the club. An additional note about this club: one of my contacts says that dancers are required to give management all their earnings at the end of their shift. The Spearmint Rhino company then sends the dancer their money in the form of a check. According to my source dancers are or were told they were employees. If true, it's a highly unusual arrangement in an industry that typically treats dancers as independent contractors. Yeah, I can hear the voices now, "Who cares? Where do I find the 1: big tits 2: club with extras 3: which dancers who do take out?" (grin).

Bandaids. Finished the night at Bandaids. Spent a lot of time with my new GFE dancer but before that met Monica, the latina who speaks very little English. She approached me in the bar area where I was holding up the wall. I told her I wasn't ready for a dance but got one later. Nice enough, but I had a much better time with my new dancer friend.

Higgs.

[Kujo69]

I heard that the owner of Skin is buying Babes. No ETA on change of ownership or re-opening. Seems kind of pointless but it's his money.

[Danimal Forth]

I heard that the owner of Skin is buying Babes. No ETA on change of ownership or re-opening. Seems kind of pointless but it's his money.Back a few months ago there was a second sign taped to the door underneath the notice to terminate Babe's tenancy.

"This business is closed for remodel and will reopen under Skin City management. Please come to Skin City located at xxxx North Scottsdale Rd. For any employment or entertainment opportunities. Looking forward to meeting you".

[DontKnowMe19]

Back a few months ago there was a second sign taped to the door underneath the notice to terminate Babe's tenancy.

"This business is closed for remodel and will reopen under Skin City management. Please come to Skin City located at xxxx North Scottsdale Rd. For any employment or entertainment opportunities. Looking forward to meeting you".I think the owner is looking for a bigger club area. Where Skins is now, it's way too close to residential areas. Homeowners were unhappy with the parking problems and the loud music. Maybe this is where Skins is looking to relocate.

[Dick North]

I think the owner is looking for a bigger club area. Where Skins is now, it's way too close to residential areas. Homeowners were unhappy with the parking problems and the loud music. Maybe this is where Skins is looking to relocate.Moving Skins to another location in Scottsdale is a waste of time & money IMHO. That town is certainly not accommodating to this kind of business.

[Bigtim47]

Tuesday on my way home from Maricopa with heavy traffic on the 202, I decided to take a break at Sonnys. Not that busy at 5 to 7 PM, but some OK dancers, and no cover until 7 PM. A dancer named Lissette, or something like that. She was drinking a bit, or maybe a bit more, so she gave pretty wild dances. Club was much better than I remembered From a couple of years ago.

Now it's on to a fun Saturday clubbing with some friends. Yippee!

[Higgs Boson]

I think the owner is looking for a bigger club area. Where Skins is now, it's way too close to residential areas. Homeowners were unhappy with the parking problems and the loud music. Maybe this is where Skins is looking to relocate.It's an interesting idea. I admit I haven't been inside Skin for about 6 years, and Babes maybe 12 months but but I don't think the inside of the Babes building is much larger than Skin. The parking capacity isn't great at the Babes location either. Certainly the inside of Babes was really due for a remodel. The bar area was a nice place to hang out but you know a remodel is in order when the rest of the club falls behind Chicas for "class".

My bet is the Skins management will remodel and reopen the Babes location but I agree with Bigtim47. Not only does Scottsdale make things difficult but there are clubs in the area that aren't that far away such as Sugar 44 and (perish the thought) Dream Palace and Elite. I wouldn't recommend the last two to anyone. If someone lives in North Scottsdale it would be just as easy to hop on the Loop 101 to get to the Candy Store or Bliss. The better clubs in the Valley would take some effort to get to. Whether your tastes include Bourbon Street, Hi Liter, Centerfolds, Bandaids, or the two Christies', you commit yourself to something more than a casual "down the street" trip. Re-thinking the distances, perhaps Bourbon Street is not that far from the Scottsdale Clubs.

It think it's a little ironic to talk about a closed Scottsdale club just when the car auctions are winding down and the WM Open (aka Phoenix Open) is starting. All those out of town visitors with money to throw at SC dancers.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Moving Skins to another location in Scottsdale is a waste of time & money IMHO. That town is certainly not accommodating to this kind of business.Sorry, I attributed the idea to BigTim47, like many others here, a person who will definitely drive a long way to get to a good strip club.

I meant to say:

My bet is the Skins management will remodel and reopen the Babes location but I agree with DickNorth. Not only does Scottsdale make things difficult but there are clubs in the area that aren't that far away such as Sugar 44 and (perish the thought) Dream Palace and Elite.

Maybe the Skin management will come up with a whiz bang idea that will surprise us. Others here have been to Skin more recently. If Skin is crowded, then applying the Skin model to the Babe site might make a difference but I'm in DN's corner on this.

Higgs.

[Kujo69]

Looking at the Skin facebook page, it appears that Skin will remain at it's current location, Babes will become Bones Rock-and-Roll Strip Joint. Skin & Bones. I know that the same guy used to own Shotgun Betty's in Old Town Scottsdale, I wonder if he has that type of place in mind for Bones, only with topless girls.

[Danimal Forth]

Looking at the Skin facebook page, it appears that Skin will remain at it's current locationI had noticed yesterday that Babe's still had a Twitter page with a lot of recent activity. A lot of the new ones are promoting Essex which seems odd.

Skin has a photo on FB from back in September about a rebranding. That explains where the "Skin City" things comes from. Skin's website is now down as well. Twitter activity from just yesterday along with a bunch of other posts suggests they're in hiring mode for the new club.

[Higgs Boson]

Looking at the Skin facebook page, it appears that Skin will remain at it's current location, Babes will become Bones Rock-and-Roll Strip Joint. Skin & Bones. I know that the same guy used to own Shotgun Betty's in Old Town Scottsdale, I wonder if he has that type of place in mind for Bones, only with topless girls.A strip club? What was Shotgun Betty's like? Any relationship to Mustang Sally's?

Higgs.

[DontKnowMe19]

It's an interesting idea. I admit I haven't been inside Skin for about 6 years, and Babes maybe 12 months but but I don't think the inside of the Babes building is much larger than Skin. The parking capacity isn't great at the Babes location either. Certainly the inside of Babes was really due for a remodel. The bar area was a nice place to hang out but you know a remodel is in order when the rest of the club falls behind Chicas for "class".

My bet is the Skins management will remodel and reopen the Babes location but I agree with Bigtim47. Not only does Scottsdale make things difficult but there are clubs in the area that aren't that far away such as Sugar 44 and (perish the thought) Dream Palace and Elite. I wouldn't recommend the last two to anyone. If someone lives in North Scottsdale it would be just as easy to hop on the Loop 101 to get to the Candy Store or Bliss. The better clubs in the Valley would take some effort to get to. Whether your tastes include Bourbon Street, Hi Liter, Centerfolds, Bandaids, or the two Christies', you commit yourself to something more than a casual "down the street" trip. Re-thinking the distances, perhaps Bourbon Street is not that far from the Scottsdale Clubs.

It think it's a little ironic to talk about a closed Scottsdale club just when the car auctions are winding down and the WM Open (aka Phoenix Open) is starting. All those out of town visitors with money to throw at SC dancers.

Higgs.I really don't remember Babes. Had one lousy experience there and try to forget it. But honestly, Skins is the "best" club in the area there. I'm not saying the best club, I'm saying the best club in the area there. University has the scam shops. Nightmare Palace has its charm? And the others I try not to bother so much. There are tons of better clubs in the valley. But who knows what's going on. LOL. We'll see soon enough.

[Danimal Forth]

A strip club? What was Shotgun Betty's like? Any relationship to Mustang Sally's?

Higgs.Just another defunct clubbing venue in downtown Scottsdale.

[Kujo69]

A strip club? What was Shotgun Betty's like? Any relationship to Mustang Sally's?

Higgs.Shotgun Betty's played lots of metal music and had hot girls dancing on their bar.

[Higgs Boson]

Shotgun Betty's played lots of metal music and had hot girls dancing on their bar.


Just another defunct clubbing venue in downtown Scottsdale.Sounds like a club during the Coyote Ugly movie period. Yeah, it's amazing how competitive the standard nightclub scene is in Scottsdale. It amazes me how often the clubs close, remodel, and reopen to crowds which eventually dissipate. Then they start the cycle over again. They attract people who are into checking out new clubs.

Obviously a hit with the seasonal visitors.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

I revisited yesterday mid-afternoon and sat at the bar. I wanted to ask the bartender about the blonde topless girl
...
Jesse visited with me in VIP as did her Thai buddy (name?)Lisa?

No sign of the amazing blonde unfortunately. Been watching for another appearance.

[Dick North]

I visited again last Friday mid-afternoon and asked the bartender about her. She said she would ask the manager. She went in the back several times to ask him and he was always on the phone. She said that there have been a lot of new girls working there and it was impossible to remember them all.

I remember a similar situation at Sugar 44 where there was a really hot black dancer who never wore her top until management told her to keep it on unless she was on stage or table dancing.

I will keep trying to find this girl as Bandaids has become my fave club. No VIP cover charge and some very hot dancers.

DN.


Lisa?

No sign of the amazing blonde unfortunately. Been watching for another appearance.

[Deboinair]

Bored Saturday during the day and went to Jaguars. Pretty empty but $2 beers and talked to a pretty Puerto Rican girl there for a bit. Then ventured on to Chicas. I kind of consider it like a Spanish Bandaids a bit smaller though. They have a pool table. I only saw two dancers that looked decent.

In the area, I thought I may waste my time going to T&A 2. To my surprise it is now Exotica. Really looks like T&A ventures flopped. They had T&A 3 of off McDowell and I believe that is closed also. The only one left is the one off of Central. The best one out of all of them IMO. I talked to the owner and was surprised to find out he owned a club in a town I used to live in FL years ago. So I'm like this going to be good. Also felt good not to get patted down like an inmate. I don't know why they do that so much here in AZ.

Anyways they changed the decor a bit. Looks much nicer. VIP dances are blocked off. Good lighting. There were a few good looking dancers there. A skinny black chick that had some amazing tits and bubble butt. A Puerto Rican girl that looked good, but too many tats for me. Had a good mixture of ethnicities which I like. Oh wow I bump into another "Want Dance" Cuban girl. I couldn't believe it. It wasn't the one from Bandaids either that was talked about in earlier posts.

I would definitely check Exotica out again. I'm not sure about how it is at night, as I am not willing to pay admission to go to any strip clubs. They are in the process of getting their liquor license. Only beer is available right now. Hopefully this turns out to be a good spot I can go to regularly. It appears after going around these clubs Bandaids is the best overall. HiLiter isn't bad either.

[DavePHX]

Bored Saturday Also felt good not to get patted down like an inmate. I don't know why they do that so much here in AZ. Patdowns I welcome. Reason - GUNS. Been shootings at various strip clubs usually in the parking lots and one bouncer was shot and killed.

4 of us from here did 5 strip clubs Sat night including Erotica more to follow. Sounds like the day is better than at night based on Sat night.

[Higgs Boson]

Background.

In great secrecy, the Rebel Alliance HQ dispatched two reconnaissance missions. One, a solo LRRP done by able rebel raider Debonair was a success and reported in this thread.

Report of the Recon in Force team.

Saturday night at 2000 hrs, the elements of a recon in force converged on the assembly area in the ASSteroid belt near Planet Bandaids. Jedi Dave and BigTim47 Skywalker had already joined forces at Planet Bourbon Street. Uniting with them in sequence was Higgs Boson and Newbie80, each from their minor planets. Mounted in the remarkable Bosonmobile, the force departed for the outer planets of the galaxy to begin a probe leading to the inner recesses of the Empire of Strip Clubs.

First was the Planet of Coyote Cabaret just outside the gates of Luke AFB. The time spent on this planet was very brief due to the absence of the very point of the expedition. To quote BigTim47 Skywalker: "Where are the dancers?" The unit finished a ration of beverages and clambered back into the Bosonmobile for the next objective to the East.

Arriving at Planet Xplicit, the party boldly entered the planet atmosphere to the cost of a $10 cover charge and a stated two drink minimum. Given the confusion reigning on this planet, it was noted that the latter was difficult to enforce. This planet was much more pleasing to BigTim47 Skywalker as he soon had a blonde inhabitant on his lap to interrogate. He is clever. His technique is put the victim at ease with a series of jokes. Then a lap dance ensues. Higgs Boson witnessed a mighty struggle with a leg around the neck of be. Skywalker. The two mutually concluded their meeting and the blonde inhabitant moved over to Jedi Dave where the two discussed the inner workings of the Strip Club empire. Newbie80 had his eyes on a shapely brunette who was highly skilled at the local sport of pole climbing. She joined him later but he reported that she had an attitude and rightly had her banished from our presence. Meanwhile Higgs Boson was on high alert and noticed a dark complexioned inhabitant behind him at the bar. Fortunately, repeated glances to the bar tipped off the inhabitant that there was interest blossoming at the table and she advanced. Beautiful face and she also possessed what is technically referred to as "booty" accentuated with high-cut lingerie. Interrogation was brief and led to a series of lapdances. We had been warned that the local civil government was very strict regarding dances on this planet, and the highly visible location of our table made it very difficult to make full use of hands. After these activities it was time to move on but not before B. Skywalker tracked down the original blonde inhabitant to extract additional intelligence.

The next scheduled planet was T&A on Grand. Unfortunately the information gathered by raider Debonair had not been disseminated by Rebel Alliance HQ. Evidently a coup was experienced on this planet and the first clue was the exterior of the planet shell. As the Bosonmobile entered the parking orbit area, the recon group was expecting a red and yellow exterior but instead in the dim light saw black and perhaps a shade of purple. Another tip off was a new sign above the door which seemed to read "Exotica". Entering the planet atmosphere we were assessed $7 each for cover. No stated drink minimum. Entering through an airlock that looked like a foyer a remodeled interior was revealed which would have made Martha Steward vomit in her mouth not only for the horrible color combination but for the workmanship, the bolstering around the stage being a good example. The group had tried to incorporate a modicum of stealth in its approach but on this planet Higgs Boson was being waved at from the stage by one of its inhabitants. So much for stealth as this dancer on stage blew the Boson's anonymity. When the dancer came down from the stage, Higgs introduced Bunny to his companions. Definitely a friendly habitant of this planet and she provided Newbie80 with a nice set of lap dances. The manager of this planet was very anxious for us to have a good time, offering a free round of drinks and also introduced us to the cultural practice of dollar dances. We declined both as we needed to say farewell to Bunny and continue out mission.

The Bosonmobile arrived at Planet Essex and the group proceeded inside with the traditional $10 Saturday night cover and the pat down ritual. Immediately inside the interior door a local resident must have sensed BigTim47 Skywalker's magnetic personality and was compelled to follow him to the table selected for us by the manager. She realized her adoration may have been unsettling so she told Higgs Boson she would return later. Beverages were ordered and arrived basically without incident except that a bottle of Heineken was adulterated with a wedge of lime. A strange local practice. Higgs retreated to consult with one of his secret contacts on this planet and returned to find Jedi Dave in close lap combat with a local resident. Also mysteriously, Newbie80 and B. Skywalker had disappeared. Higgs turned and found himself staring into the deep and sexy brown eyes of Lacey, a local resident, who began her own interrogation by asking "Where are you going?" Higgs was seized by the power of her eyes (and her booty) and found a place for the two of them by the third stage for lap combat. Four brief sessions and Higgs was released by the mesmerizing field of Lacey. Higgs was concerned that the team was being dispersed when Newbie80 appeared and said, "Hey Higgs, BigTim47 and I are going across the street for tacos. " Soon Jedi Dave took a seat nearby but was tracked down by the original greeter from the door. He was subjected to several minutes of agonizing lap combat in the VIP area. He returned to share his misery, and I paraphrase, "It was fantastic!" He also noted that VIP at Essex is now $25/ song, so be warned. It was time to again assemble the team. Higgs and Jedi Dave walked across the street to tell the other two the night wasn't over yet. "You mean there's more?

The Bosonmobile exited Planet Essex and soon entered the planetary influences of Planet Chicas. After paying a small entry fee ($6 ? The party found a small empty table but with space only for three. Higgs immediately entered lap combat in a booth with a hot local spinner to make room for the others at the table. This man knows no bounds in sacrifice for his team. When that combat was concluded Higgs returned to the table to be told that Newbie80 had been abducted to a booth by Johanna (previously of Bandaids but a veteran of other Planets too). Not long afterward Higgs was joined by a large breasted wide-hipped resident who suggested a move to a booth. She claimed to recognize Higgs from Bandaids. After a short period of lap combat, the lights came on and the dances were over. The recon team shut down Chicas and returned to our original starting point.

[DavePHX]

Higgs did a more creative post. Here is my less creative report on the same night from my perspective. Was very enjoyable.

5 Strip club marathon with 4 guys from a forum.

We helped BigTim get to 101 different strip clubs he has visited in various cities including has many trips to Phoenix.

I met Bigtim at Bourbon Street at 7 PM and wound up getting home at 2:30 AM.

Bourbon street was very busy early evening probably with the Golf tournament in town. Very good looking dancers as always but none approached us. I was only there about 30 minutes, as we didn't stay long as had to meet the other 3 guys in the parking lot So of Bandaids. Since BigTim had been to Bandaids many times didn't go in but met for the long trip to clubs none of us had gone to or not for a long time on the far west side.

We spent time at Coyote, Xplicit, T&A II (now Erotica) Essex, and ended up until closing at Chicas.

Coyote.

Recent reviews have been negative but we would check out for ourselves (and be club #97 for BigTim). Small neighborhood bar atmosphere with a nice large dance stage. But no dancers! On a Sat night there were only about 6 guys sitting at bar watching some fight game. Waitress good looking. Asked about dancers and told one had went home sick and another was coming (not sure when). We stayed awhile and talked but no dancer showed up. As we left was street clothed black gal on phone with a black guy but don't think she was a dancer.

On to Xplicit.

Very fancy nice place with huge ceiling and a pole all the way to the very high ceiling in middle of dance floor. Some gals actually danced up the pole to the top and were quite good athletically.

Friendly dancers. Many who would sit on your lap and chat mixed up with a few "wanta dance" gals. It was obvious this was very low touch place which I would have no interest in dances in, so turned down a few "want to dance" offers.

A very attractive, sexy body, intelligent, wonderful smile older (age 40 was told) wound up in really great time with BigTim enjoying all his jokes and doing very nice sexy body all over him. I actually wouldn't want since my interest is to nicely touch, caress etc her not just have her all over me but with no mutual contact. She hit it off very well with BigTim.

Then she sat with me and while I didn't do any dances we had a nice conversation including about the low touch here vs our favorite Phoenix clubs. She was obviously upset that other clubs would do more (and I am not referring to anything direct sexual) but she would not be a ***** like those dancers that allow touch. They are all prostitutes in her eyes and dirty and that is just not her. Of course, I respect that view just would have no interest in her dance wise. Even the expensive VIPs here are basically the same no contact except maybe on legs as the floor dances. She says Glendale is very restrictive, LE comes in and monitors and she (falsely) claims that any more contact would be prostitution. Other than that attitude, seems like a great person.

Another attractive dancer later in my lap, enjoyed my doing massage on her, and had more physical contact allowed with her sitting in my lap than if she was doing dances! She stayed a long time with me and then I kind of passed her off to BigTim sittingnext to me, who would get dances from her.

On to Erotica (formerly T&A II).

Somewhat remodeled again although its been maybe 2 years since I have been here. Besides the 4 of us at a table in the "lower area" about only other customers was a gaggle of young wild guys upper to our left. Only 3 active dancers maybe a 4th only saw briefly a few times. 2 (blacks who I actually like but in a slim body) of the 3 were for those that like huge breasts and huge butts and heavy. One of them however knew higgs. From Bandaids and were more friends. She had a great personality and pretty face and nice smile. Higgs and Newbie80 enjoyed some dances but I passed. The 3rd dancer was a very slender white spinner. More my body type but really wild in constant jumping with floor dances with the young group who really seemed to enjoy her wild, bouncing, jumping (the opposite of my type).

The nice manager came over a few times to greet us and be sure we were taken care of. He asked us if we would be interested in a round of $1 dances where he explained gals would switch guys every 30 seconds for $1 dances. We (or I) were interested and the manager was going to change my $10 for $1's, but I accidentally gave him a $1 to change for $10 and a good laugh.

He was also the DJ executed well from his end the $1 rounds. Howver it was mostly the spinner dancer bouncing wildly between the young wild group who really like this kind of action. No dancer game over to us in this game. The manager had also offerred us another round of drinks but declined as we were planning to leave. Dave is over his drinking limit with a variety of 5/$4 bottles of water $ and a few diet Pepsi's.

This place has potential but needs more variety of dancers and more customers. I understand it may be better in daytime. I really don't like the area around the stage that is so low, having to look up to see the dancer and vision somewhat limited (can't see her feet etc).

On to Essex.

As usual Essex was very busy with some of loudest noise (some call music). Probably the worst atmosphere of a club but one of the best for dances for me and at least a couple of us. It helped that one of our guys knew a few of the dancers from Bandaids. Lots of attractive dancers although mostly the wild type. With the 4 of us at a table a young women (a customer) who was with a guy started a bit of a conversation with me from just behind me. She was also thinking the place was a bit wild for them and left soon.

Soon I had gal in my lap enjoying massaging her and hand holding, too noisy to get name but was attractive and nice. I kind of like the private dance area from what I remembered $20 with no entry fee. Went with her for a few dances and was good. Was a bit wild jumpy at first but as I often do "tamed" her a bit to my kind of more slow intimate dance.

An attractive slim black dancer S. Greeting us as came in as recognized our H. From Bandaids (he goes a lot! Liked both her smile and slim, smaller breasted body. Eventually she came over to me, very friendly and off we went to the VIP. She was interrupted before our first full dance since was called to be on stage but then resumed afterwards. Very nice but she said the dances were $25 each when for years I paid $20. Although it has been a few years since I did VIP here. Most times in the last few years when by myself ignored by dancers. From tonight's and past experiences seems easier to get dancers when in a group with some handsome other elders and on this trip a young sharp looking guy Newbie80 vs. Just old Dave.

Earlier I met and had some good discussion with the guy in the men's room. Usually I just ignore them but this guy was especially friendly and started a conversation as I dried my hands. I believe he said has worked here since 2012 and was also kind of the head bouncer guy if anyone bothered me or others. He confirmed the VIP room fee has been $25/ dance for a long time. Maybe its been pre 2012? Since I paid $20 and paid the first dancer $20 for 2 and she didn't say anything.

Our group had been off with different dancers, lost our original table and from Higgs found out the other 2 were hungry and the nice door man told them how great the Taco van / patio thing was across the street. H and I were ready to leave but we all came from the So of Bandaids lot in Higg's car. We went across and found them. BigTim now up to his 100 different clubs and H. Suggested on the way back lots stop at Chica's.

Chica.

I recall this from many years ago and its had various names. Wasn't really my type but that was years ago. H. likes to park in the side driveway since the small parking in front is so tight and hard to maneuver in. I recall that from years ago when I was there. There are very wobbly boards hard to walk on if you take the shortcut via the side of the building. Much better to walk around to the street to get around the fence to the small main parking.

Layed out as I recall. Very tight seating could hardly squeeze in to find a seat and was quite busy, now just after 1 AM. Some attractive dancers very mixed mostly Latin group. Our young attractive Spanish speaking group member Newbie80 thought some guys were looking at him funny. Another mentioned probably wouldn't be comfortable if going alone here but fine with a group like the four of.

Us.

Newbie80 found an old friend from another club and they had great time on back benches ($10/ dance). The stage was so dark, like at many clubs, could hardly see the attractive dancers other than their image. The noise level from Latin "music" was way too loud for me and some of the crowd a bit wild. Some dancers were leaving and many were attractive enough. Closed at 2 AM and we were some of last to leave as our good Spanish speaker Newbie80 talked with dancer he knew and a couple of her friends. He of course has great advantage here since speaks fluent Spanish and there were gabbing away in Spanish.

Now we have gotten Bigtim up to 101 clubs visited. He leaves Phoenix to go back home shortly but will be back in a few months for all his friends -- especially well known at Bourbon street but like myself also enjoys Hi-Liter, Bandaids and a few others.

Returned to the parking lot next to Bandaids (they have closed of course) and talk for awhile. BigTim jokes hopes there are no cameras looking at us, may look like were guys doing a drug deal as we talk outside in the parking lot. However 3 of the 4 of us look to old to be into drugs and our young guy maybe too well dressed to be a gang type of guy.

Most of the clubs now to pat downs since guns in our wild west are too common and there have been shootings at various clubs and parking lots. A few bouncers have also been shot over the last few years. Sometimes they don't pat me down. Old Dave looks more like an accountant or lawyer to be in a gang and always wear sort of business casual. I never got into shirts hanging out, shorts etc.

An enjoyable long evening with the "gang". Of strip clubs goers.

[Dick North]

Alright, I give up on finding Blondie. I talked with a manager & barkeep today and they could not remember this girl. Actually she may have only been there for a few days.

Anyway, I was approached by Monica the tiny Cuban girl and she convinced me to visit VIP.
Not a bad experience actually although she is a bit too high-energy for me. Needs to slow down a bit.

DN.

[Higgs Boson]

Alright, I give up on finding Blondie. I talked with a manager & barkeep today and they could not remember this girl. Actually she may have only been there for a few days.Thanks for the efforts. There are some other dancers I wish had stuck around, for example Hope and another spinner who may have been latina or light complexioned black and gave me a very sexy set of dances perhaps four months ago.


Anyway, I was approached by Monica the tiny Cuban girl and she convinced me to visit VIP.
Not a bad experience actually although she is a bit too high-energy for me. Needs to slow down a bit.I had a floor dance with her about a month ago? - did you know that this forum software won't allow a closing parenthesis-. As I recall, she was on my lap but most of her body was almost an arm length away. Went through the motions. About as much warmth as a statue. She mentioned VIP and this performance on the floor dances is probably meant to imply it might be better in the back. I didn't find the proposal convincing.

Higgs.

[Dick North]

Being a product of Catholic grammar/prep schools*, I submit this (parens test).
Now the system did apply an ending period, so it reminds me of the annoying features of MS/Word.
DN.
*Which explains my chronic mongeritis.


Thanks for the efforts. There are some other dancers I wish had stuck around, for example Hope and another spinner who may have been latina or light complexioned black and gave me a very sexy set of dances perhaps four months ago.

I had a floor dance with her about a month ago? - did you know that this forum software won't allow a closing parenthesis-. As I recall, she was on my lap but most of her body was almost an arm length away. Went through the motions. About as much warmth as a statue. She mentioned VIP and this performance on the floor dances is probably meant to imply it might be better in the back. I didn't find the proposal convincing.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

Patdowns seem to start by 3 pm at Bandaids. Occasionally I sneak into T&A without meeting anybody at the door but I still usually expect somebody to meet before I can get very far. Even during the summer it's common to find security outside. I've seen them searching girls' bags too. Got used to it even if I don't care for it either.

Bandaids seems to have pushed back the cover charge to 5 pm on Friday and Saturday. I think it used to be $5 and recently it was $6. (Of course that goes up for the fights.) I think they've changed the start a few times in the last year so it's hard to keep up with. Compared to other clubs it's hard to complain about it for the most part.

At one point I did have a number of passes for free admission plus $1 first drink but they wouldn't honor it for both. I also acquired some Essex passes from management when they initially opened but a year later they wouldn't take them anymore. I know Dave talks about how Centerfolds does the same kind of thing.

[Higgs Boson]

Being a product of Catholic grammar/prep schools*, I submit this (parens test).
Now the system did apply an ending period, so it reminds me of the annoying features of MS/Word.
DN.
*Which explains my chronic mongeritis.Any particular weakness for dancers in plaid skirts? (grin).

Hmm. Yes, the system seems to force a period after the closing parens.

Higgs.

[Dick North]

Any particular weakness for dancers in plaid skirts? (grin).
Add in the saddle shoes & bobbie socks and I am toast.

DN.

[DavePHX]

I also acquired some Essex passes from management when they initially opened but a year later they wouldn't take them anymore. Last weekend I used an Essex coupon dated in 2014 and they were happy to take it for free admission.

[DavePHX]

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/pink-rhino-update-controversial-phoenix-strip-club-to-reopen

[Higgs Boson]

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/pink-rhino-update-controversial-phoenix-strip-club-to-reopenInteresting. There's been a night / strip club at that location long before those apartments were built. Too bad the previous manager had to screw up a good thing. It was more of a night club than a strip club but it filled a niche for Phoenix entertainment.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

For anybody who cares I saw Roxanne, formerly at Bandaids, over at T&A during an evening stop this week. She looks as good as ever if not better. Probably been gone almost two years now. I don't think she's going by the same name. Curvy latina with blonde hair in case you forgot.

[Deboinair]

Patdowns seem to start by 3 pm at Bandaids. Occasionally I sneak into T&A without meeting anybody at the door but I still usually expect somebody to meet before I can get very far. Even during the summer it's common to find security outside. I've seen them searching girls' bags too. Got used to it even if I don't care for it either.

Bandaids seems to have pushed back the cover charge to 5 pm on Friday and Saturday. I think it used to be $5 and recently it was $6. (Of course that goes up for the fights.) I think they've changed the start a few times in the last year so it's hard to keep up with. Compared to other clubs it's hard to complain about it for the most part.

At one point I did have a number of passes for free admission plus $1 first drink but they wouldn't honor it for both. I also acquired some Essex passes from management when they initially opened but a year later they wouldn't take them anymore. I know Dave talks about how Centerfolds does the same kind of thing.Yeah the pat down thing in AZ is annoying. Living in Miami one of the most gun violent cities and never been pat down is still tripping me out. Ha ha.

The good thing is the mgmt and bouncers pretty much know me now and just waive me in.

Yeah I remember I went to bandaids at 5 pm and they wanted to charge on a Saturday. I declined. Paying cover is not for me. LOL.

Looks like all of Hanks clubs are going up on drinks and starting cover early. I guess for that pink rhino purchase? Or to cover to take that it from Essex. I really don't know how that place stays open.

[Deboinair]

So what is the scoop on this place? Looks like bandaids pt. 2 now. I saw four girls that work at bandaids there yesterday. Past times I've been here I didn't like it. Thought it was a Scottsdale want to be club with anerexic white girls with fake tits and absolutely no booty what so ever. Glad to see they are mixing it open. I saw black, middle eastern mix, Puerto Rican, and Ethopian. I was in shock.

Maybe it was a blip and it won't happen again. I'll find out as I don't live too far from this place. Instead of going to bandaids I can come here if they keep that up.

[Danimal Forth]

Yeah the pat down thing in AZ is annoying. Living in Miami one of the most gun violent cities and never been pat down is still tripping me out. Ha ha.

The good thing is the mgmt and bouncers pretty much know me now and just waive me in.

Yeah I remember I went to bandaids at 5 pm and they wanted to charge on a Saturday. I declined. Paying cover is not for me. LOL.

Looks like all of Hanks clubs are going up on drinks and starting cover early. I guess for that pink rhino purchase? Or to cover to take that it from Essex. I really don't know how that place stays open.Not to dwell on this but for accuracy I should clarify my previous comments. By "pushed back" to 5 pm for cover on Saturday I meant that it's later not earlier. Pretty sure it used to be 3 pm. But when you look around there are a lot of clubs that start at 7 pm. Supply and demand things I guess. And previously I said something about Bandaids passes for admission and $1 drink. Turns out it was $2 drinks.

None of this is a huge deal in the grand scheme of blowing cash at a strip club.

[Dick North]

Nine months ago, Centerfolds was my go to club. Many of my faves are gone. China, Arianna & Orianna to name a few. The VIP rooms have been remodeled and not to my liking.

Not enough privacy. They added a new VIP private room at $40.00 entry and $25.00 per dance. I tried that one out with the queen of anorexia and was disappointed.
Glad to hear though that there are some more 'diverse' girls working there.

I was at Sugar44 on Monday and asked the barkeep where "Evie' was (a very cute young black dancer) and he reminded me that these dancers are all independent and they come when they choose. So if Centerfolds doesn't have the patronage with $, then the girls will not show up. Perhaps club owners should examine the Bandaids business model a little more closely.

DN.


So what is the scoop on this place? Looks like bandaids pt. 2 now. I saw four girls that work at bandaids there yesterday. Past times I've been here I didn't like it. Thought it was a Scottsdale want to be club with anerexic white girls with fake tits and absolutely no booty what so ever. Glad to see they are mixing it open. I saw black, middle eastern mix, Puerto Rican, and Ethopian. I was in shock.

Maybe it was a blip and it won't happen again. I'll find out as I don't live too far from this place. Instead of going to bandaids I can come here if they keep that up.

[Deboinair]

Nine months ago, Centerfolds was my go to club. Many of my faves are gone. China, Arianna & Orianna to name a few. The VIP rooms have been remodeled and not to my liking.

Not enough privacy. They added a new VIP private room at $40.00 entry and $25.00 per dance. I tried that one out with the queen of anorexia and was disappointed.
Glad to hear though that there are some more 'diverse' girls working there.

I was at Sugar44 on Monday and asked the barkeep where "Evie' was (a very cute young black dancer) and he reminded me that these dancers are all independent and they come when they choose. So if Centerfolds doesn't have the patronage with $, then the girls will not show up. Perhaps club owners should examine the Bandaids business model a little more closely.

DN.I would never do VIP dances in AZ. I'm spoiled. I'm used to the full "business" in VIP. They can save that pulling and tugging and maybe a BJ. I'm good. I like diversity. I don't care what color. I just don't like to see one color. I always have a good time when it's a mix. Centerfolds better follow the bandaids mode to get customers like me coming back. I'm more of a OTC guy. But I drink and tip well, including the bouncers. I have met a few friends like myself out here that I hang out with that will spend money if they are happy with the environment.

From what I see at Centerfolds, if it isn't a blip like I said earlier, I will be back often. They don't start charging cover till 8 also which is great since I'm a late afternoon early evening kind of guy. I like bandaids a lot but it's a bit of a hike compared to Centerfolds.

So can you fill me in on Sugar 44? I have seen many mixed reviews there on the board. Is it diverse? I have never been there.

[IndianaJones]

I would never do VIP dances in AZ. I'm spoiled. I'm used to the full "business" in VIP. They can save that pulling and tugging and maybe a BJ. I'm good. I like diversity. I don't care what color. I just don't like to see one color. I always have a good time when it's a mix. Centerfolds better follow the bandaids mode to get customers like me coming back. I'm more of a OTC guy. But I drink and tip well, including the bouncers. I have met a few friends like myself out here that I hang out with that will spend money if they are happy with the environment.

From what I see at Centerfolds, if it isn't a blip like I said earlier, I will be back often. They don't start charging cover till 8 also which is great since I'm a late afternoon early evening kind of guy. I like bandaids a lot but it's a bit of a hike compared to Centerfolds.

So can you fill me in on Sugar 44? I have seen many mixed reviews there on the board. Is it diverse? I have never been there.Centerfolds is going down hill and will keep going down hill and its nasty (as in don't look too closely at the furniture or floor). It used to be a good club, and a lot of fun. The girls any more are bad (not in a good way), the staff are a bunch of druggies and / or drunks. Rude as well. Its a waste of time to go there, even though they are trying to revamp / remake the club its like putting a new flag pole on a condemned building. With what I have seen there it wouldn't surprise me if vice, the liquor board, or someone else doesn't go in and shut them down.

[Deboinair]

Centerfolds is going down hill and will keep going down hill and its nasty (as in don't look too closely at the furniture or floor). It used to be a good club, and a lot of fun. The girls any more are bad (not in a good way), the staff are a bunch of druggies and / or drunks. Rude as well. Its a waste of time to go there, even though they are trying to revamp / remake the club its like putting a new flag pole on a condemned building. With what I have seen there it wouldn't surprise me if vice, the liquor board, or someone else doesn't go in and shut them down.This is what is great about forums. People can decide on the reviews. I never liked Centerfolds before because I thought it was like how are saying it is now. LOL I love the bartender there. I only go to one as I can agree the others are rude, and a tad bit lazy. Bouncers and daytime manager were cool the times I've went. As for a cleanliness. If you go to bandaids I would say Centerforld has them beat in that department. I don't think they ever clean the bathroom at Bandaids. Always puddles when you go in there too. Ugh.

They keep it mixed, and I will keep going there. One thing they should do is probably get rid of the all nude part. I think it might be useless. I not sure which side is bigger. But maybe turn it into a sports bar with pool tables.

[IndianaJones]

This is what is great about forums. People can decide on the reviews. I never liked Centerfolds before because I thought it was like how are saying it is now. LOL I love the bartender there. I only go to one as I can agree the others are rude, and a tad bit lazy. Bouncers and daytime manager were cool the times I've went. As for a cleanliness. If you go to bandaids I would say Centerforld has them beat in that department. I don't think they ever clean the bathroom at Bandaids. Always puddles when you go in there too. Ugh.

They keep it mixed, and I will keep going there. One thing they should do is probably get rid of the all nude part. I think it might be useless. I not sure which side is bigger. But maybe turn it into a sports bar with pool tables.They tried the sports bar thing when they originally opened. Didn't quite work out for them. The owners and managers don't even care anymore. Sure, they are now trying new ideas to get people into the club, but for a long time (I. E. Years) they didn't even make any attempt at marketing or advertising. Too little too late. Plus they're all scoring girls / drugs on the side (not gossip, well known fact). The place is trying to copy the clubs in Vegas, but on a hobo's budget. Don't even bother going in when its raining. The roof leaks and who know's what crap is in the roof / walls that is dripping on you while you're sitting down (or even in your drink is what I saw too).

I won't get into the other staff / girls that work there. They are just as bad as the rest of the place. The waitresses are appropriately named as you have to wait, and wait and wait for them take let alone bring back your drink order.

[Kujo69]

They tried the sports bar thing when they originally opened. Didn't quite work out for them. The owners and managers don't even care anymore. Sure, they are now trying new ideas to get people into the club, but for a long time (I. E. Years) they didn't even make any attempt at marketing or advertising. Too little too late. Plus they're all scoring girls / drugs on the side (not gossip, well known fact). The place is trying to copy the clubs in Vegas, but on a hobo's budget. Don't even bother going in when its raining. The roof leaks and who know's what crap is in the roof / walls that is dripping on you while you're sitting down (or even in your drink is what I saw too).

I won't get into the other staff / girls that work there. They are just as bad as the rest of the place. The waitresses are appropriately named as you have to wait, and wait and wait for them take let alone bring back your drink order.You sound like you have an axe to grind with the place. It's a titty bar for chrissakes, what are you expecting? Nobody I ever run into there has every been anything but nice to me. The bartenders alone make this place worth a visit (I think Chevy is now bartending BTW). While I will admit that the quality of the dancers has dropped a bit recently, that's the nature of the business, there are ebbs and flows, you can still have a great time here with the right girl. IMO, it's still one of the best clubs in Phoenix.

[IndianaJones]

You sound like you have an axe to grind with the place. It's a titty bar for chrissakes, what are you expecting? Nobody I ever run into there has every been anything but nice to me. The bartenders alone make this place worth a visit (I think Chevy is now bartending BTW). While I will admit that the quality of the dancers has dropped a bit recently, that's the nature of the business, there are ebbs and flows, you can still have a great time here with the right girl. IMO, it's still one of the best clubs in Phoenix.No axe. Just been visiting there over the past many years, and while it is a titty bar one does expect to have some level of service from the bartenders and waitresses. It used to be great, the place has been circling the drain the past couple of years. Every time I've been in the past few months I keep wondering why. All the great dancers are gone, and the place just doesn't have the same friendly feel to it that makes you want to keep coming back. So I'll move on to other places that are friendlier. Maybe I'll drive by in the next few months and they'll have a For Sale sign on the door.

[WhiteSun777]

No axe. Just been visiting there over the past many years, and while it is a titty bar one does expect to have some level of service from the bartenders and waitresses. It used to be great, the place has been circling the drain the past couple of years. Every time I've been in the past few months I keep wondering why. All the great dancers are gone, and the place just doesn't have the same friendly feel to it that makes you want to keep coming back. So I'll move on to other places that are friendlier. Maybe I'll drive by in the next few months and they'll have a For Sale sign on the door.I must agree Centerfolds is a waste of time. I've never been a huge fan in the past. Stopped by once in blue moon. For odd reason, I went there last Friday or was it Saturday? Who knows. It was past 2 am and I thought I would check out their "Nude" side. Paid the $20 cover. Went in to get their "bottomless" drinks (juice, soda, whatever cheap stuff they've got on tap) It seems crowded then I realized something is wrong at this place. The dancer no longer gets nude and I'm like WTF?? Heck I've seen one dancer did not even take her top off in the main stage. Same crap in VIP area ($20/ song) and they don't go nude. I'm like really?

So save your $$$ and don't even bother going there after 2 am expecting to see some nude girls. You're lucky to catch them topless.

[SamMonger]

Visited bandaids today around 4 pm. I usually go to bourbon st. But wanted to give this club try with all it's rave reviews in this forum. The club was slow at first but picked up later. Talked with Victoria a new black girl in bar area for a while. Ended up with getting few dances with Monica. She could not speak proper English. But gave good dance overall. Overall had nice time. I like the variety available in this club.

[Deboinair]

They tried the sports bar thing when they originally opened. Didn't quite work out for them. The owners and managers don't even care anymore. Sure, they are now trying new ideas to get people into the club, but for a long time (I. E. Years) they didn't even make any attempt at marketing or advertising. Too little too late. Plus they're all scoring girls / drugs on the side (not gossip, well known fact). The place is trying to copy the clubs in Vegas, but on a hobo's budget. Don't even bother going in when its raining. The roof leaks and who know's what crap is in the roof / walls that is dripping on you while you're sitting down (or even in your drink is what I saw too).

I won't get into the other staff / girls that work there. They are just as bad as the rest of the place. The waitresses are appropriately named as you have to wait, and wait and wait for them take let alone bring back your drink order.Well in all honesty coming from Miami I think all the strip clubs suck here. You guys pay way too much to get less. I didn't move here for the strip clubs though.

Looks like they probably don't care at this point. I just figure if I go to bandaids. I can go here especially if bandaid girls are working here. Closer to where I live.

[Higgs Boson]

Probably not surprising, Centerfolds isn't my favorite club in the Valley. I kind of see it as a down market Bourbon Street. For me, both clubs have historically had too many enhanced breasts and not enough ethnic variety. I have stopped by Centerfolds maybe every 6-12 months mostly because there was a period about five years ago when things really improved for me there. Sometimes I think it could happen again. Back then there were a few dancers who I found attractive and had natural breasts of various sizes, and a couple of nice black dancers. At that time the latinas who patrolled the club all had monstrous hard fake boobs.

I occasionally hear good things about daytime at Centerfolds but I can't normally stop by during those hours.

I stopped by last month on a Saturday night and I had a minor problem, caused by two parties: me and them. It was resolved nicely by the scary manager on duty at that time. He's the large bearded guy who looks like he could take on an entire motorcycle club by himself. Here's what happened: I was killing time at the bar, bored, 'cause I was trying to find a dancer I might like but saw no one during the 30 minutes I was there. The DJ announced a tequila special and I immediately turned to the tall blonde barmaid who has the huge fake boobs and asked for a Don Julio. My mistake. I should have asked if that counted in the special. I just assumed Don Julio = tequila = drink special. Logical right?

Well the barmaid delivered the shot and asked for more money than I expected, and I protested. I didn't drink it and she didn't get my money. She and a couple of nearby waitresses tried to lecture me about specifying versus the drink special, which I didn't appreciate. The barmaid went to talk with the manager who eventually came over to talk with me. My point was that the DJ said tequila, not a specific brand, so it was open for what brand / label. In fact the DJ made the same announcement while we were talking. I was polite, he was nice too. He went back to talk with the bartender, then returned and generously gave me the Don Julio at the special price plus a drink on the house. All I wanted was to pay for the Don Julio at the special price. Will I make my mistake again, no, I'll clarify it but I really wish they'the clarify the special and I didn't really like how the bar maid handled it. She's not deaf and heard the same announcement I did, and she could have clarified my order and expectations. That's customer service too. She's been there long enough (well over 5 years) to handle it before it even became an issue.

So, I felt happy enough to spend the rest of the evening at Centerfolds. Regular drinks plus a couple shots of tequila would make most people cheerful, and'est pas? So, I found one or two dancers who were willing to give me floor dances without looking too pained for the effort. That's another thing about this club. Many of the dancers think they're too "special" to accept doing a non-VIP dance. At least that's the attitude I pick up. Anyway, it got late enough I thought I'the check out the nude side of the building.

I'm not really into nude establishments but I think Centerfolds is very business-savvy. The nude side helps pay the bills when the law forces the club to stop serving alcohol. The club increases the cover charge to $20 and starts soaking the under-21 youngsters. So the club is open about another, what, six hours after a normal 2 AM closing, collecting increased cover charges and over-priced soft drinks and bottle water.

As for dancers, Dave seems to always report striking gold here. As for me, I seem to have the opposite: catching the eye of the dancers I like. I got one dancer who gave me a decent dance, said she'the return later, and disappeared. Meanwhile, there was a extremely hot dancer who hung out by the stage and never looked around. I would have been very generous if she gave a decent lap dance. Instead, she disappeared and I thought I saw her exit in street clothes. I believe I gave up at that point and left for some other club.

Higgs.

[Deboinair]

Probably not surprising, Centerfolds isn't my favorite club in the Valley. I kind of see it as a down market Bourbon Street. For me, both clubs have historically had too many enhanced breasts and not enough ethnic variety. I have stopped by Centerfolds maybe every 6-12 months mostly because there was a period about five years ago when things really improved for me there. Sometimes I think it could happen again. Back then there were a few dancers who I found attractive and had natural breasts of various sizes, and a couple of nice black dancers. At that time the latinas who patrolled the club all had monstrous hard fake boobs.
This assessment right here is why I would not go in the past. Up until two weeks ago. You are right, it was like a Bourbon street. The only thing I like about Bourbon is the daytime 2 for 1 drink specials. You are spot on about the tequila shots. Seems like they haven't learned their lesson. The big boob brunette bartender let me know right away it wasn't Patron. I don't think it's your responsibility to know that. The establishment should be very clear with that. Their drink specials really do suck though.

So as far as the ethnic variety. There are a few dancers that caught my eye. Lili who is some kind of Middle Eastern mix. Jasmine is Ethiopian. Nu Nu looks mixed black and white, but she is way too money hungry for me. One petite Puerto Rican dancer who I forgot her name. I saw another few latinas but didn't get a chance to talk to them. Every one all natural and no enhancements. Feel like a I was at Tootsies back home on a smaller margin. I have seen them the times I go which is early evening after work or early during the day.

[Danimal Forth]

On the topic of ethnicities:

I would definitely go check out Centerfolds again if I knew all those interesting ladies were going to be there at the same time.

Bandaids has some new white girls. These days they're almost a rare breed. One was named Magenta, because she apparently does like that color in her wardrobe. She is the softer and rounder variety though not large by any means. Seemed pleasant but my interaction with her was pretty brief.

Another white girl is probably up somebody's alley. I think I caught her name as Sunny. She is very small and thin, very much white and has small, natural breasts. Probably right about 19 years old. Unfortunately my limited interactions didn't leave me wanting more at this point. I might give her another chance if she sticks around. She's going to have to figure out how to sell dances rather than expecting every guy to toss money at her and it does appear she might prefer the company of men who do not share my own skin color.

I can't keep track of a the Cuban ladies over there: it's got to be at least seven. I saw one of them again and didn't immediately recognize that I knew her and that she doesn't speak English. Her name is Gina, or something that rhymes with that anyway. She has some really nice curves on her body but it's her face that has me staring her way. Obviously it's personal taste but she's high on the prettiest girls ranking for me. Though sometimes the darkness can play tricks, I definitely plan to spend some time with her when I see her next.

T&A has a handful of girls who've caught my eye lately. What's weird is that they acknowledge glances in their direction or I'll be the only guy tipping on stage yet they don't ever seem interested in selling dances. Overall I can't think of many reasons to recommend this place.

And I popped into Blue Moon briefly. Ariel is still working there although I didn't see her myself. The tabletops now have an explanation of the dance charges. It lists $41 for three songs with "tip included" and then it calls $123 a half hour and $246 a full hour. When you print it all up that way it just makes the pricing seem completely absurd. I've never been sure if they were just milking the extra dollar for themselves or forcing patrons to break large bills to encourage tipping. My interest in this club died a long time ago.

On a completely unrelated note: When you drive down Scottsdale Road at night you'll see the Babes signage still lit up. Nothing suggests a makeover going on inside.

[Deboinair]

On the topic of ethnicities:

I would definitely go check out Centerfolds again if I knew all those interesting ladies were going to be there at the same time.

Bandaids has some new white girls. These days they're almost a rare breed. One was named Magenta, because she apparently does like that color in her wardrobe. She is the softer and rounder variety though not large by any means. Seemed pleasant but my interaction with her was pretty brief.

Another white girl is probably up somebody's alley. I think I caught her name as Sunny. She is very small and thin, very much white and has small, natural breasts. Probably right about 19 years old. Unfortunately my limited interactions didn't leave me wanting more at this point. I might give her another chance if she sticks around. She's going to have to figure out how to sell dances rather than expecting every guy to toss money at her and it does appear she might prefer the company of men who do not share my own skin color.

I can't keep track of a the Cuban ladies over there: it's got to be at least seven. I saw one of them again and didn't immediately recognize that I knew her and that she doesn't speak English. Her name is Gina, or something that rhymes with that anyway. That's very disappointing to hear alot of Cubans are at bandaids. Would probably go there less now if that is the case. If want Cuba I'd move back to Miami.

T&A is definitely a hit or miss type place. I could go there and literally see 3 or 4 good looking dancers one day and go another time and see nothing.

[Higgs Boson]

Started too late at Chicas, around 7:30 PM. Too late because I wanted to catch a dancer who normally works days. Just couldn't get my act together to be there late afternoon. Once I was on my way, thought I might get lucky and find her anyway like I did the first time when she got a late start to her shift. Got there, had a beverage but no luck in finding her or any other dancer I'the be interested in. During the day there are some Chicas dancer who can turn heads. I was looking for someone else, but if you'the like a black dancer with a gorgeous face, big natural boobs, nice figure, about 5'6" in her platform heels, watch for Juicy. Daytime, typically M. F. I wasn't willing to spend my entire night at Chicas but was hoping to end the night at Bandaids with one of my favorites but first a couple of stops.

Next stop Erotica (formerly T&A on Grand Ave) but noted Fox's is still closed while I was enroute. Erotica wanted $7 cover. I have to grant the interior remodel color scheme is not too shabby the second time around. BigTime47 noted the horrible workmanship on the stage railing when we made our recon. This time there were more customers, perhaps a dozen scattered among the tables and maybe a half dozen dancers. I barely got my bottled beverage at the bar when I was approached by Bentley. She reminded me that we previously met at Chicas. She was one of the victims of the firings there. A bad choice IMO for the Chicas management since Bentley is a real cutie. She's black, someone light-medium complexion, very slender, not skinny, and very short but her platforms bring her almost to eye-to-eye with me. Her slender frame makes her Bcups appear larger in the contrast. She's not pushy but has a flirty manner. She says most of the dancers at Exotica were formerly with Chicas. My guess is that Chicas management wanted to change the ethnic mix to reflect the marketing focus. As we talked, Shy walked by somewhat underlining the point since she is very dark. Bentley and I move over to one of the VIP booths for some dances. Definitely want to do it with her again but the VIP pricing really adds up. The club dance pricing starts at $5 for at the tables and zero privacy, then jumps to $20 for the booths and moderate privacy. There is or are more expensive areas but I don't pay attention to those. Bentley said the dancers complained the $10 area (pre-remodel) was not enough. I spent more money at Exotica than I planned. It was nice to see and experience Bentley again and I'm willing to write off the VIP pricing with her as "worth it" this time.

Next stop Essex. Arrived perhaps around 9:30. Things were getting lively and customers and dancers were still showing up. Looking around, most of the dancers were busy. I was working on my beverage when I was approached by Nova. She's the cute one who was fun when I met her a few weeks ago. We had some nice dances at one of the chairs near the third stage. There was some talk about a featured dancer but it was time to leave.

Bandaids. Arrived perhaps 10:30/11:00. My primary objective was to spend some quality time with one of my favs. She likes to talk and tease me before we even hit the chairs in the lounge. And when I say tease, I mean in multiple definitions. When we get to the lounge the dances are close to GFE. This evening she was very popular with this crowd so I had to share her. She was expecting to spend the end of the evening with me but we ended up having a few minutes before the club closed. We'll be meeting again soon. Meanwhile my other major fav is taking some time off.

Sunday night Bandaids addendum. Stopped by originally expecting to be just hour or two and that stretched out. Had dances with Royal and some others. Watch out for Tyra: intentionally or not, I think she tends to tack on additional dances to the real final total. She's beautiful so it's difficult to say no. You might want to tell her how many dances before you start. A dancer I don't remember seeing before is Sky. She's a black dancer, medium complexion, who seems a little reserved and quiet. She's has a little bit of a cushion all over, but her manner intrigued me. She can turn on the flirt charm. The best for last, Fanta or Fantasia. This woman could almost be a swimsuit model, and she has a very nice personality. I think she's new to dancing because she's very energetic. Wouldn't mind if she calmed things down. She's a fun flirt and I like her.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Next stop Erotica (formerly T&A on Grand Ave)
The name above the door is Exotica.

Higgs.

[Newbie66]

Hello all! I'm recently got transferred to Phoenix and currently in Tempe area. Can you guys suggest some nice clubs nearby? I'm from Dallas and had a blast at the clubs there, but a friend of mine told me that Phoenix is a tough place to get good dances. Apparently touching (T&A too) is not allowed here. Is that true? Would be pretty disappointed in that case.

[Bigtim47]

Hello all! I'm recently got transferred to Phoenix and currently in Tempe area. Can you guys suggest some nice clubs nearby? I'm from Dallas and had a blast at the clubs there, but a friend of mine told me that Phoenix is a tough place to get good dances. Apparently touching (T&A too) is not allowed here. Is that true? Would be pretty disappointed in that case.Newbie66, Welcome to the Phoenix board. It's time for you to do a bit of homework. Read the last 5 to 10 pages of this forum. Many of your questions will be answered. Every club is different, with different rules of touching and varieties of dancers. It will take a while to establish your presence of the board. Go to several clubs and post your impressions. Good luck.

[Member #5432]

This might be kind of a strange request, and perhaps not even one worthy of pursuing, but given the incredible time I had, I can't help but wonder. I recently met a woman off of CL who had replied to one of my ads. It took some time, but finally had the chance of meeting up with her, bringing her home for an amazing night. Though she has bolt-ons, she was a lot of fun and. Well, you get the picture. Only problem is that we communicated solely through CL, I never had an email or her digits and now have no way of getting back in touch with her.

In chatting, she told me that she dances at one of the local clubs. Only I never got the name. She mentioned that about 5 years ago she used to dance at Hiliter (I believe). She is now 30, super skinny. Pics below. I'm just curious if any of you who regularly visit the clubs might recognize her and can give me the heads up in a pm what club she is now at?

Any leads will be greatly appreciated!

TIA,

RW.

[Kujo69]

This might be kind of a strange request, and perhaps not even one worthy of pursuing, but given the incredible time I had, I can't help but wonder. I recently met a woman off of CL who had replied to one of my ads. It took some time, but finally had the chance of meeting up with her, bringing her home for an amazing night. Though she has bolt-ons, she was a lot of fun and. Well, you get the picture. Only problem is that we communicated solely through CL, I never had an email or her digits and now have no way of getting back in touch with her.

In chatting, she told me that she dances at one of the local clubs. Only I never got the name. She mentioned that about 5 years ago she used to dance at Hiliter (I believe). She is now 30, super skinny. Pics below. I'm just curious if any of you who regularly visit the clubs might recognize her and can give me the heads up in a pm what club she is now at?

Any leads will be greatly appreciated!

TIA,

RW.I remember her from Hi-Liter, I haven't seen her there in a long time though.

[Higgs Boson]

Was in the area and stopped by Bandaids about 3:30 PM on Wednesday. One of the rare times I can make an afternoon visit. One of my favs told me she's normally there by 3 PM but she's MIA. I text her around 4 PM, She asks how long I'll be there. Me, thinking she's on her way, foolishly say I'll wait for her. While hanging around I took advantage of the 2-4-1 drink deals that goes to 7 PM. Plenty of time to get a buzz on and flirt with various dancers and get some lap dances.

One of the first things I notice is that the latinas are out in force. Monica is the only one I recognize and pin a name on. Some butts look TGTBT Plus Some. I suspect augmentation but whatever turns you on. I also heard Sunny's name called summoning her to the bar stage so I know what she looks like. A bit skinny and frail looking for me, I think Debonair would prescribe a steak sandwich, but I understand the attraction.

Speaking of sandwiches, did you know Estrella is in the sandwich business? She was offering sandwiches for $5. I got a ham sandwich and it was on wheat bread with some jalapeno spicyness. It was quite good. I don't know if she does this every night since there are some evening the club has some food people on site. I'm grateful to her because I would have been quite smashed if I didn't get some food. I stayed way later at Bandaids and drank lots more than I originally planned.

I flirted with Royalty and Fantasia, paid for some dancer drinks, got some dances. Yeah, had too many beverages, experimenting with some suggested by my sexy companions. Finally my fav shows up shortly before 7 PM, about 3 hours later than she said she would. I think she was a little annoyed that I had a buzz on and seated with another hot dancer at the bar. Got some dances with her but she was a little cool toward me. We'll see what happens.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Hello all! I'm recently got transferred to Phoenix and currently in Tempe area. Can you guys suggest some nice clubs nearby? I'm from Dallas and had a blast at the clubs there, but a friend of mine told me that Phoenix is a tough place to get good dances. Apparently touching (T&A too) is not allowed here. Is that true? Would be pretty disappointed in that case.Let me join Bigtim47 and the rest of the hearty crew here on this thread welcoming you to the Phoenix strip club scene. There are lots of choices and many people here have their personal favorites for club and dancers. As have been pointed out here in the past, some clubs are less strict and some towns have special rules but there is a good chance you will find what you enjoy. Maybe if you're lucky you will soon see a very brief overview addressed to the coming Spring Training visitors (wink, wink).

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

Speaking of sandwiches, did you know Estrella is in the sandwich business? She was offering sandwiches for $5.
. . .
Finally my fav shows up shortly before 7 PM, about 3 hours later than she said she would. I think she was a little annoyed that I had a buzz on and seated with another hot dancer at the bar. Got some dances with her but she was a little cool toward me. We'll see what happens.You've known Estella longer than have but I know she's been selling those for at least a few years.

I'm always amazed at the jealousy of girls-- and it's more than not sharing your money. At the same time they justify their need to work and so "cheat" with multiple customers.

She had you waiting for hours so she should have felt honored if anything and even given you some freebies. But I'm not holding my breath for many of these ladies to start including customer service in their business mindset.

[Higgs Boson]

You've known Estella longer than have but I know she's been selling those for at least a few years.Life is full of surprises! It just never came up before.


I'm always amazed at the jealousy of girls-- and it's more than not sharing your money. At the same time they justify their need to work and so "cheat" with multiple customers.
She had you waiting for hours so she should have felt honored if anything and even given you some freebies. But I'm not holding my breath for many of these ladies to start including customer service in their business mindset.Well, I'll take a good part of the blame about waiting for her. She's normally a late night person at Bandaids but tries to show up earlier on some days, such as Wednesdays. She can be a little flighty. Also I said I'd wait and that's not too painful. Time flies when the drinks are 2-4-1 and you're surrounded by sexy women in g-strings.

I don't necessarily think jealousy was a factor. I'm fairly certain this dancer's only income is from dancing though I admit I don't have a full picture of her situation. From one perspective, dancing is a zero sum game. Money spent on one dancer is not spent on another and perhaps is a negative impact on the second dancer. Not many of us have unlimited funds to spend at the clubs (I don't). Though I have been given an occasional freebie or two, the dancers aren't doing this as a hobby. There are many dancers who are trying to put themselves through local colleges, trying to pay rent, and are single parents.

Higgs.

Don't forget to tip your local stripper.

[RZM1231]

Let me join Bigtim47 and the rest of the hearty crew here on this thread welcoming you to the Phoenix strip club scene. There are lots of choices and many people here have their personal favorites for club and dancers. As have been pointed out here in the past, some clubs are less strict and some towns have special rules but there is a good chance you will find what you enjoy. Maybe if you're lucky you will soon see a very brief overview addressed to the coming Spring Training visitors (wink, wink).

Higgs.Just a quick tip, avoid the club's in Tempe and Scottsdale, they are a waste of time and money. When I try a new club I discreetly observe the Interaction between dancers and their customers to get an idea of what's allowed, Bandaids, Blue Moon and chicas are three clubs that I frequent and I've never had trouble with engaging.

Good luck and please let us know of your experiences.

[Dick North]

Just a quick tip, avoid the club's in Tempe and Scottsdale, they are a waste of time and money. When I try a new club I discreetly observe the Interaction between dancers and their customers to get an idea of what's allowed, Bandaids, Blue Moon and chicas are three clubs that I frequent and I've never had trouble with engaging.

Good luck and please let us know of your experiences.Most of us on this board know of the issues with the Tempe & Scottsdale strip clubs, but reinforcing comments are appreciated, as is your observation about 'scoping' out a new club.

DN.

[Higgs Boson]

OK, first,

Hey YOU! Yes, you the guy that kept staring me when I was seated by the DJ stage. Yes, it's me. Introduce yourself or F'off.

OK, to address my Bandaids experience this evening, here's a question posted by Bigtim47 some time ago.


One theory that I have is why some dancers don't work the room, and only seem to spend time with one or two customers, is that they are lining them up for an "after hours date". ?? What do you guys think?Well, Bigtim47, it was my evening to be in the other chair this evening. Long after the guy who was staring at me wandered off, a dancer I met not long ago at Bandaids arrived. She and I moved over to the bar and talked, and talked and drank. She changed into her dancer costume and then we talked more. Adjourn to the lounge for some lap dances where she did a couple of unusual things. Partway through our dances she had to take the stage and she was indeed popular, getting tipped from left and right sides. We returned to the bar for more talk and beverages, and she only got up when she was called back to the stages. We talked and drank until around 1 AM when I decided I really needed to go. One of the most memorable Bandaid evenings for me.

As for lining up something for the future. Well, I hope so. I'll let you know.

Higgs.

[JayDawg27]

Ok. So I mostly go to these places on free time during the day.

First time I go to T&A (before change) I stop by just passing along.

I stop only because the lot looks packed for a mid-day daytime.

When I go in I can hardly believe my eyes.

I mean it is like day time strip club heaven.

Only g-string wearing 7-8 giving a table dance is the first thing I see right in the door.

Place was packed with dancers most all above 5.

Lets just say I was besides myself.

I now realize it was prolly 1 pm on Friday. (Fri. Being key looking back).

Anyway. I went back a few times in the day an although it was not as awesome -.

It was not dead at all. I easily gained intel on parkinglot fun to be had if wanted.

One girl who wasnt into that gave me easy to access info on who might provide what etc.

Anyway. All for not. The next time I go back. An literally almost overnight.

The place is different. New building color, new door guy, new owner, bar tender etc.

None for the good.

I guess what I am getting at is does anywhere know where all that might have relocated to?

I was told the girls all probably go there own way.

However I figure they all must find a new place to get together somewhere else.

I should say most girls were hispanic and most customers were also hispanic.

I did not really mind that at all.

Does anywhere know where the new day spot for all the hispanic workers like to go to before they go home?

Any ideas for good places to check as a replacement to T&A crap ownership change.

I know the other place is right down the street and I would like to keep the location to too further east if at all possible.

Check my next post for other club.

[JayDawg27]

DrtysOnGrnd.

So I go to check this place out after not being happy with the change at T&A.

The bar is already more expensive which I am not stoked on but what can you do.

They do have some happy hour specials I think.

First thing I see after sitting down is super fine white wearing next to nothing.

Did not get a name, but she would be easy to notice I am sure.

Blone hair, pretty thin, small tits / tight body.

I can tell she I jumped up on something but I can't tell what.

This is during the day-ish before 5.

Anyway. I sit down and start talking and she hears me wrong.

I can't recall what I said but she hears "video".

I am like hmm, anyway.

I find that a nice segway -.

I get info about. 3 to get behind curtain (prolly per song).

She explained that she was married but still offered a menu.

It was more than SW / but she was no SW either.

I do not want to say too much more but the.

I caught a "wiff" of a certian "smell" in the air before I left.

Seems like I was not the only one that day with ideas about.

Going back there.

[Dick North]

OK, first,

Hey YOU! Yes, you the guy that kept staring me when I was seated by the DJ stage. Yes, it's me. Introduce yourself or F'off.Alright, so maybe the poor guy had a lazy eye condition or perhaps it was ucle checking out a very suspicious customer (just kidding of course).

In any event, you could go up to the guy and start discreetly looking at him. That will end that issue in a heartbeat. Have seen it happen before. Just don't want to piss some guy off. Never know what could happen next.

DN.

[Kujo69]

Has anyone been to Christie's in Phoenix lately? I haven't been there in forever. Just wondering if they've improved at all.

[Aajaxx]

Has anyone been to Christie's in Phoenix lately? I haven't been there in forever. Just wondering if they've improved at all.I went Monday during the day on a whim. It was blah. I had only 2 ladies ask me to dance and a 3rd I tipped on stage to come over during a 2+ hour span. I'm a decent looking business man with money to burn in my pocket. They seemed to dance on stage and disappear? Mileage on the floor is lacking and won't do VIP if the floor dance is weak. I'd much rather have the "want to dance" of some clubs than that ghost town.

[Dick North]

Has anyone been to Christie's in Phoenix lately? I haven't been there in forever. Just wondering if they've improved at all.I haven't been there either in many months. I gave up on the place with their lack diversity in dancers. I met a number of black dancers at Sugar44 who said they no longer "felt welcome" there. Too bad as it is a great club. The famous 'Mustang" from Christies is now at Sugar44 and she is always booked, but she would be a great resource for what happened at that club. Never got a dance from her (not my taste), but obviously she has a major following.

DN.

[Dick North]

Visited today early afternoon. Not too busy, but the bar was crowded. Sat off to the side by the men's room. Soon was approached by Jesse. She is a fave so we spent a few sessions in VIP.

I returned to the lounge to finish my drink and was approached by this thin angular Latina that I have reported about before. Her name is 'Blue". She excites the "bajeebers" out of me. (whatever those are).

DN.

[Danimal Forth]

T&A

I've seen Roxanne a few times since my last report. She's been working early evening and seems to check out before it gets very late. Saw a few other nice-looking ladies on a recent Friday. I guess it's not completely hopeless there. Got nothing else to add though. If it's your thing you might find their membership card worth the price.

Jaguars

Hit Jag several times. Decided to see what it was like in the day. Can't complain about no cover and two-dollar drinks. Very few customers and about five or six dancers finally started a stage rotation on the main. The first one was Saucy and she was fairly hot while all the others were several notches lower. This was not the primetime crew. None bothered to approach and none received tips. The girls are probably spoiled by the make it rain, party culture.

One of the great things about the less comfortable Bandaids-style seating is that it's much better for dances. Girls at Jag seem to be all about booty and spend most of their time facing away from you. I'm sure the chairs don't help. Personally I find that to be a pretty lame dance.

The place gets really packed. It's usually way too loud and I hear it's much more quiet in the VIP area. Dances in there get mixed reviews though and I've never tried. I don't really care much for the seating arrangement around all the stages. If you like watching pole dances there's a lot of action to see though.

Paris is half-Japanese and she stands out from the crowd of other girls with her thin build. She seems to have a fun personality.

Sierra is really attractive though she's a little reserved. Her implants look good if a little too big. She's one of the girls who probably already looked great without them. Dances were average though. I'll still look for her again.

There are two sisters who wear matching outfits and dance on stage together. They're fairly attractive but they probably do better as a team. I saw a guy getting a doubles dance. Not sure it was actually worth doubling the cost.

On ladies night they had an amateur contest with about twelve girls flashing plenty of skin. I think there was only one who chose not to share. A white BBW at the end of the lineup was the fan favorite by far which was a surprise. It definitely draws in a lot of female customers.

I know they're doing some marketing to draw in the spring training guys and I'm curious to see what that demographic will look like--if I bother to go back and find out.

Alaskan Bush Company

If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all.

Chicas

Hadn't been there in a long time. Friday night.

Too loud inside. Saw a couple familiar faces from around. Not as many black girls as in the past. Overall the girls were an improvement over my previous visits. Might have been the weekend that made the difference.

Saw one latina much thinner than all but about one other girl and she was keeping busy for the time I stuck around. From a distance she was pretty hot but I was tied up with another dancer when she went on stage and never saw her up close. I think I heard the name Harmony. Will be slightly tempted to go back and look for her.

Definitely more of an hispanic scene with the banda style music and the DJ speaking in Spanish much of the time.

Dirty's

Was free admission at one point at least on the night I went in. Had started charging a cover about a month ago. I hear good things about the cheap lunches though.

Christies

Made a point of driving by yesterday. Just a little before 3 pm and the parking lot was more full than I expected to see. Maybe about half the spots taken. Sign outside says "Free Lunch".

Blue Moon

Property to the east has been demolished. Fairly big lot. Not sure if they're going to build or just needed to get it torn down.

Bandaids

Hannah, another of the waitresses, has taken her turn at dancing. Think one of the curvier girls. I remember she used to have blonde highlights although her hair seems to be darker now.

Thin, black girl Hope is back again after a few months away. Never spotted Blue although I vaguely remember her from a while back. Some of the veteran dancers made appearances too. Hadn't seen them around much.

I'm not the Serial Starer. I can recall being stared at a few times in the past too.

Higgs, hope my previous comments didn't offend. I missed the part that's she's a fave so I'm sure she has to be a classy lady. I certainly cut some slack to my own preferred ladies as well.

I respect that time is money when it's busy and they've got lots of other potential customers to sell to. We still all hate the nonstop want a dance tactic though. They can always use the slower times to their advantage. Ladies ought to realize that a huge motivation for repeat clientele, especially with older guys, is having an interpersonal relationship on some level. And giving something for free is a great way to encourage reciprocation. I usually make it worth their while to hang out for a few songs. Much of the time it really doesn't cost them so much anyway since they would have had to wait for the next song to start. The flip side of that is that it's a real turnoff when they sit on your lap facing away once you accept a dance. Their time is maximized by selling multiple dances in a row.

Good luck with the new lady. I don't think I agree with the proposed "after hours date" theory. Here are explanations I would rank above that: 1) they don't feel like working or want to drink first; 2) they're just spending time with their regulars. (A lot of these girls only have one or two guys who come in looking for them.); 3) the guy is paying for the time in the club. These probably all bleed together a lot.

Skin

Nothing new. I guess I missed this back in January:

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northeast-valley/scottsdale/pd-armed-bouncer-captures-david-byzewski-firing-shots-near-cabaret

[Deboinair]

Jaguars

Hit Jag several times. Decided to see what it was like in the day. Can't complain about no cover and two-dollar drinks. Very few customers and about five or six dancers finally started a stage rotation on the main. The first one was Saucy and she was fairly hot while all the others were several notches lower. This was not the primetime crew. None bothered to approach and none received tips. The girls are probably spoiled by the make it rain, party culture.

One of the great things about the less comfortable Bandaids-style seating is that it's much better for dances. Girls at Jag seem to be all about booty and spend most of their time facing away from you. I'm sure the chairs don't help. Personally I find that to be a pretty lame dance.

The place gets really packed. It's usually way too loud and I hear it's much more quiet in the VIP area. Dances in there get mixed reviews though and I've never tried. I don't really care much for the seating arrangement around all the stages. If you like watching pole dances there's a lot of action to see though.

Paris is half-Japanese and she stands out from the crowd of other girls with her thin build. She seems to have a fun personality.

Sierra is really attractive though she's a little reserved. Her implants look good if a little too big. She's one of the girls who probably already looked great without them. Dances were average though. I'll still look for her again.

There are two sisters who wear matching outfits and dance on stage together. They're fairly attractive but they probably do better as a team. I saw a guy getting a doubles dance. Not sure it was actually worth doubling the cost.

On ladies night they had an amateur contest with about twelve girls flashing plenty of skin. I think there was only one who chose not to share. A white BBW at the end of the lineup was the fan favorite by far which was a surprise. It definitely draws in a lot of female customers.

I know they're doing some marketing to draw in the spring training guys and I'm curious to see what that demographic will look like--if I bother to go back and find out.
I LOVE the seating here. I'm talking about way in the back against the VIP glass window. So dark you can do a lot of things there. I haven't frequented Jags too much because it usually is dead during the day. They don't charge until 7 pm so I think I may squeeze in at 5 or 6 on a Saturday and check it out. It's just the night girls are way too money hungry. This is one of those "make it rain" clubs which is not on my favorite list. The few times a I went during the day it was dead, but typically had 1 girl I liked.

[IndianaJones]

Anyone have any info on a bodybuilder / fit dancer there? It has been a while since I was last in Hiliter and can't remember her name. I think it's Roxy but not sure at all. Does she still work there?

Also, there was a dancer there who was an elderly care giver. Nice body, blonde, very friendly. Can't remember her name either. She usually worked days but I was lucky to meet her one Friday eve.

[Danimal Forth]

Made a repeat visit to Jag to check out the Sunday night $1 drinks. Got there early enough to grab a good seat as noted by Debonair. My comment about the seating arrangement was really about the big block of chairs in the middle of the room and the way they fit around the stages. These are definitely where you want to be except for all the foot traffic passing by.

Met some white ladies who I had never seen before. Rumor is pale white and dressed in red outfit and lipstick. Loved both the conversation and the dances she gave me. She had been at Hi-Liter for a little while so you might know her from there. The other white lady is Jenna. Again, fun to talk to and enjoyable dances.

Despite my endorsement of these two it's far from becoming my favorite club. The last two visits haven't quite as mediocre though.

[Higgs Boson]

I'm not the Serial Starer. I can recall being stared at a few times in the past too.
Hey, I'm sure you guys who are club regulars know what to do in the clubs. You know not to stare, and know that eye contact is best accompanied by a nod or smile, preferably both. I regularly say hi as I'm settling in next to a stranger at the bar or a seat almost everywhere in the clubs. I think it's good manners and courtesy. I'm not perfect at it but I try.

The guy in question came by several times and stared. He probably came by to glance at the TV screen that was nearby, but it was approaching rudeness. I felt it was very noticeable otherwise I wouldn't care. I'm a pretty laid back guy. It would have been nice if he bought me a beverage. (smile).

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Anyone have any info on a bodybuilder / fit dancer there? It has been a while since I was last in Hiliter and can't remember her name. I think it's Roxy but not sure at all. Does she still work there?
I rarely get over to Hi Liter anymore but Tantra was a sleek and sexy dancer who might fit that description. Not bodybuilder muscular but she seemed fit enough. No idea if she's still there.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Wow. Great stuff on all the clubs.



Chicas
Hadn't been there in a long time. Friday night.
Too loud inside. Saw a couple familiar faces from around. Not as many black girls as in the past. Overall the girls were an improvement over my previous visits. Might have been the weekend that made the difference.
(snip)
Definitely more of an hispanic scene with the banda style music and the DJ speaking in Spanish much of the time.Many of the black dancers were fired. Some moved over to Exotica (formerly T&A Grand). Some of the remaining black dancers at Chicas are convinced the evening DJ (s) are trying to drive them away. Little things like rudeness and only playing the banda music when the black dancers are on-stage.

If you have a weakness for very large natural breasts, check out dancer Beautiful at Chicas during the day. Sometimes up to early evening. She is also cute but IMHO would be really adorable without all the face piercings. Be gentle, in every sense of the word, and sensitive and I think you'll have a very pleasurable experience. I did more than once. I think she's a real sweetheart.

At night, Fantasy provides a nice dance and she's nice to talk with. She'll talk with your for a few minutes before the inevitable dance question.



Christies
Made a point of driving by yesterday. Just a little before 3 pm and the parking lot was more full than I expected to see. Maybe about half the spots taken. Sign outside says "Free Lunch".
I wouldn't be surprised if day / lunchtime is a big money maker for them. There are several avionic and electronics companies around the northern airport perimeter, between 24th Street and 44th Street. Lots of other light industrial and services shops in the area. Just the place to go for lunch when the visiting sales rep is paying the tab.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Bandaids

Thin, black girl Hope is back again after a few months away.Damn. She is so cute. Still haven't seen her since her return. Obviously I'm not dropping by at the right times.



Higgs, hope my previous comments didn't offend. I missed the part that's she's a fave so I'm sure she has to be a classy lady. I certainly cut some slack to my own preferred ladies as well.You did not offend. I thought everything said was good. Both for her and some other current favs I've accepted that there is a lot of leeway regarding time. Also, there's more to their lives besides us, like auto maintenance, family commitments / care, etc. They don't have admin assistants. Of course, if they totally neglect us there are other club distractions (smile).



I respect that time is money when it's busy and they've got lots of other potential customers to sell to. We still all hate the nonstop want a dance tactic though. They can always use the slower times to their advantage. Ladies ought to realize that a huge motivation for repeat clientele, especially with older guys, is having an interpersonal relationship on some level. And giving something for free is a great way to encourage reciprocation. I usually make it worth their while to hang out for a few songs. Much of the time it really doesn't cost them so much anyway since they would have had to wait for the next song to start. The flip side of that is that it's a real turnoff when they sit on your lap facing away once you accept a dance. Their time is maximized by selling multiple dances in a row./I agree with everything you say. I agree that the dancers who are really attentive to what's going on will either sit on your lap facing to the side at 90 degrees or, even nicer, face you straddling your legs.



(edited) I don't think I agree with the proposed "after hours date" theory. Here are explanations I would rank above that: 1) they don't feel like working or want to drink first; 2) they're just spending time with their regulars. (A lot of these girls only have one or two guys who come in looking for them.); 3) the guy is paying for the time in the club. These probably all bleed together a lot.I was a little tongue-in-cheek on the "after hours date". I was tweaking BigTim47 a little but I'm also little bit of an optimist. Bleed together is a good way to look at it. I certainly am flattered that a woman who looks like a bikini model wants to hang out with me though I'm fully aware it doesn't and shouldn't come without a cost on my part. I'll never be mistaken for an Adonis, and she's there to be able to pay the rent. I'm more than happy to pay for drinks, maybe get a little tipsy together, and spend some time in the lounge being naughty.

I'll relate further Bandaids experiences from last weekend in a separate post.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

I LOVE the seating here. I'm talking about way in the back against the VIP glass window. So dark you can do a lot of things there. I haven't frequented Jags too much because it usually is dead during the day. They don't charge until 7 pm so I think I may squeeze in at 5 or 6 on a Saturday and check it out. It's just the night girls are way too money hungry. This is one of those "make it rain" clubs which is not on my favorite list. The few times a I went during the day it was dead, but typically had 1 girl I liked.Great tip on dance locations.

Yes, it's basically a "make it rain" club. Not sure about other nights, but on Saturday nights it's a night club where couple show up for dates and there doesn't appear to be much in way of table dances.

I've only been there once during the day, with a dancer acquaintance who was scouting out other potential clubs. It seemed to be more laid back during the day. One of the Jaguar dancers was very friendly and shared intel with my dancer companion.

At night it's a whole other animal (pun) ! I had that wild evening I talked about last Fall, meeting an Essex dancer then adjourning to Jaquars where she intended to try another shift. It didn't work out for her but, after saying farewell in the parking lot, I returned to the club. I got accosted by several dancers while I was enroute to and from the men's room. Many of the dancers were formerly at Fox's. Said they recognized me. I definitely recognized them. I got some non-VIP dances and at least one wandering security guy gave me a warning about hands.

I suspect it's a difficult club for dancers unless they have certain body types and are willing to really shake it on stage. Based on conversations with dancers who have worked at a similar club (Pink Rhino), some are really good at the stage but it can also be exhausting to keep it up. Doesn't work for everyone. One of my resources spent a lot of time at Essex where she excelled at GFE lap dances. Gorgeous face, Bcups, slender and sexy but didn't have the typical big booty that automatically reaps dividends on the stages. She related that she really had to work hard for results on stage at the Pink Rhino. (Sigh. Damn. Hot and cute. Where is she now) ??

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Ok. So I mostly go to these places on free time during the day.
First time I go to T&A (before change) I stop by just passing along. I stop only because the lot looks packed for a mid-day daytime.
When I go in I can hardly believe my eyes. I mean it is like day time strip club heaven. Only g-string wearing 7-8 giving a table dance is the first thing I see right in the door.G-string or sling, I love either one on dancers. Unless the dancer is really obese.


Place was packed with dancers most all above 5.
Lets just say I was besides myself. I now realize it was prolly 1 pm on Friday. (Fri. Being key looking back).
Anyway. I went back a few times in the day an although it was not as awesome -.
It was not dead at all. I easily gained intel on parkinglot fun to be had if wanted.
One girl who wasnt into that gave me easy to access info on who might provide what etc.Anyway. All for not.Fridays afternoons are an excellent time to visit almost any club here in the Valley.


The next time I go back. An literally almost overnight. The place is different. New building color, new door guy, new owner, bar tender etc. None for the good. I guess what I am getting at is does anywhere know where all that might have relocated to?
I was told the girls all probably go there own way. However I figure they all must find a new place to get together somewhere else. I should say most girls were hispanic and most customers were also hispanic. I did not really mind that at all.Does anywhere know where the new day spot for all the hispanic workers like to go to before they go home?
Any ideas for good places to check as a replacement to T&A crap ownership change.I know the other place is right down the street and I would like to keep the location to too further east if at all possible.Great field report. I heard that there were lots of latinas at T&A Grand during the day. You could still try Exotica on a Friday afternoon to see what it's like. There have been some changes in the area. Fox's closed, again. Dancers are independent contractors and go where they think they can make money or perhaps be comfortable.

For latinas and where the latino workers go in the area, try Chicas which is just south of Thomas on 35th Avenue. They fired most of their black dancers and have put a strong emphasis on banda music and latina dancers. There are now many latinas at Bandaids during the day. Some at night.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

DrtysOnGrnd.

So I go to check this place out after not being happy with the change at T&A. The bar is already more expensive which I am not stoked on but what can you do. They do have some happy hour specials I think. First thing I see after sitting down is super fine white wearing next to nothing. Did not get a name, but she would be easy to notice I am sure. Blone hair, pretty thin, small tits / tight body. I can tell she I jumped up on something but I can't tell what.
This is during the day-ish before 5.
Anyway. I sit down and start talking and she hears me wrong.
I can't recall what I said but she hears "video".Another good report. You might want to go back soon if you really liked her. Most of us have been disappointed in this club. Most Valley clubs have more than adequate table / lap dances, so you need to decide if going behind the curtain is worthwhile.

Read back in the reports and keep up to date and you may get ideas on other clubs worth visiting.

BTW, you may also find some latinas over at Essex in the evenings.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

My usual habit is to hit the clubs on Saturday nights though there is the occasional week that may be slightly different. There are many stories in the Naked City, and this is one of them (old TV show reference, there is no club by that name in the Phoenix area. At least, not yet).

Changing up clubs can sometimes help with difficult dancers. If someone is being difficult or clingy, not appearing for a week or two can cut some of the tension. I worry less about it nowadays: if I don't like the dancer, I can tactfully extricate myself almost every time. The hard part is if I like them. For various reasons I've recently cut back my club wanderings. I've been focused more on Bandaids these days and last weekend I spent far too much time at my favorite club.

I've had about 3 or 4 preferred dancers at Bandaids recently. Weirdly, they've almost never been there at the same time. I talked earlier about hanging out with the potential bikini model. We had some nice evenings. Meanwhile one of my other appreciated dancers has been semi-MIA over the past couple of months and communication lapsed. Another one I recently waited hours for, well, a long time.

I had some stuff to do in Central Phoenix on Friday afternoon. That concluded so I made my way over to Bandaids, arriving about 6:15. What better way to finish the week? So I step inside, pay my cover, turn and before I even get to the bar-side stage, I'm nose-to-nose with my MIA dancer. Within 30 seconds our fingers are intertwined and we're getting caught up what's been happening over the past weeks. Five minutes later we've retreated to a favored corner over beverages. Four hours later and things are going great with breaks for our dances and her stage time. One of the times she's doing the stages and had made her way to the main stage, I look up and there in front of me appears Miss Bikini Model and she is livid. I can't even hear what she's saying but the face and gestures say it all: "Who is this b*tch? " Since then I've received some difficult texts. I don't think she's speaking with me anymore. Meanwhile, MIA dancer and I met Saturday evening at Bandaids.

Sunday night, the MIA dancer and I are scheduled to meet again at the club but. Yes. She is incredibly late. And I'm waiting. Waiting. I then look up and in front of me headed to the dressing room is a voluptuous and statuesque beauty dressed in a dancer version of a PB bunny costume. Under the curls is a smile that lights up the room. She looks at me and says "I'm coming back for you!" Damn! I can hardly wait! Meanwhile, I get a text from MIA asking if I'm still there. Ah, yes, I'm doing great! I decided to get BigTim47 into the loop and text him about this incredibly hot dancer. He's trying to counsel me from the wilds of Minnesota, probably from an igloo. I hear Minnesota is so close to Canada they're like eskimos, only in Minnesota the igloos have mud rooms. Is that true BigTim47 ? Well, Statuesque and I get a couple of dances and beverages. She's a short time visitor. One more night in town. We share some common interests. Then there is an awkward misunderstanding about a question. MIA shows up and we spend some time together.

I'm determined to find out more about Miss Statuesque and show up Monday evening. Great conversation follows the clarification of the question from the night before. Then some great and affectionate dances. MIA shows up but is kind of left out until a friend of Statuesque arrives and says she's like to get some dances too. Who do I recommend? Well, of course, MIA is right there and ready for some fun.

Four straight nights at Bandaids and I needed two days to recover. I wasn't even drunk.

Higgs.

[Dick North]

Visited early afternoon Wednesday. Walked through the bar area and noticed Jesse visiting with a customer.
I gave a slight wave and sat down at the bar for a beer (or as Higgs would refer to as a 'beverage').
Then Sissie comes up to me and starts getting me interested in some dances. I look at Jesse and she gives me the two finger eye back at you routine.
So I did a few dances with Sissie who I like. A good dancer as is Jesse. I will visit again with Jesse soon.

Anyway, this caused some interest in Mr. Higgs posts recently, where I would have been very interested in knowing the dancers that he visited with.

So Mr Higgs, is there a reason why you don't report the dancers names that you visit with or should we (the mongers) just assume that you are writing some self-indulgent fictional crap?
Why in the hell would anyone read your latest post?
You undoubtly are the most self-affected member on this board.

DN.

[Bigtim47]

Visited early afternoon Wednesday. Walked through the bar area and noticed Jesse visiting with a customer.
I gave a slight wave and sat down at the bar for a beer (or as Higgs would refer to as a 'beverage').
Then Sissie comes up to me and starts getting me interested in some dances. I look at Jesse and she gives me the two finger eye back at you routine.
So I did a few dances with Sissie who I like. A good dancer as is Jesse. I will visit again with Jesse soon.

Anyway, this caused some interest in Mr. Higgs posts recently, where I would have been very interested in knowing the dancers that he visited with.

So Mr Higgs, is there a reason why you don't report the dancers names that you visit with or should we (the mongers) just assume that you are writing some self-indulgent fictional crap?
Why in the hell would anyone read your latest post?
You undoubtly are the most self-affected member on this board.

DN.Gentlemen, we have to be careful on this board with naming dancers if we are in a "relationship", that is emailing or seeing them outside the club. I name names when I have a good time in the confines of the clubs. When I see a dancer or two for fun outside the club, or even for lunch, I do not ever mention their names. Higgs is just exercising good discretion.

This is a great board to exchange fun times at the different clubs that we go to. For an outsider like me, I appreciated the info I found on this site. Higgs is a real "strip club rat" like I am, and I always enjoy our Saturday night tours of various clubs. There is basically no snow on the ground here in MN, and certainly no igloo's.

There is no need to throw stones at fellow mongers on the board!

[Higgs Boson]

So Mr Higgs, is there a reason why you don't report the dancers names that you visit with or should we (the mongers) just assume that you are writing some self-indulgent fictional crap?Damn. I knew we couldn't keep this up forever. It's true. It's all fiction. I got fired from my gig writing for the Penthouse Forum and managed to get this two bit job writing as a shill for the national strip club industry. I do little pieces writing about non-existent encounters for the regional strip club associations. I had the Phoenix piece due mid-week. I have a another due for a review of the City of Industry clubs very soon. Next week I have to do a compelling review for Gallagher's 2000 in Long Island City. And all these are under a variety of fake names. And guess what? I have never been to any of these clubs. The owners send me a picture or two of the interiors for atmosphere and an air of authenticiity and I write up something about meeting strippers. I actually sit in my place in Vermont and play around with different scenarios. The Star Wars piece was topical but not one of my best. I had a lot more fun doing a parody of fiction by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. You might remember it as "it was a dark and stormy night". The best part of that one was that you took the bait. You went ballistic and I laughed my ass off while relaxing in my study. That's the best part of this job. It doesn't pay well but having you get all worked up over nothing: priceless.

"Higgs".

[Jamesj]

Damn. I knew we couldn't keep this up forever. It's true. It's all fiction. I got fired from my gig writing for the Penthouse Forum and managed to get this two bit job writing as a shill for the national strip club industry. I do little pieces writing about non-existent encounters for the regional strip club associations. I had the Phoenix piece due mid-week. I have a another due for a review of the City of Industry clubs very soon. Next week I have to do a compelling review for Gallagher's 2000 in Long Island City. And all these are under a variety of fake names. And guess what? I have never been to any of these clubs. The owners send me a picture or two of the interiors for atmosphere and an air of authenticiity and I write up something about meeting strippers. I actually sit in my place in Vermont and play around with different scenarios. The Star Wars piece was topical but not one of my best. I had a lot more fun doing a parody of fiction by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. You might remember it as "it was a dark and stormy night". The best part of that one was that you took the bait. You went ballistic and I laughed my ass off while relaxing in my study. That's the best part of this job. It doesn't pay well but having you get all worked up over nothing: priceless.

"Higgs".Higgs, that was fantastic!

LMAO!

While I do NOT do the Strip Club scene, love your (and others) reports.

Keep reporting.

JAMESJ.

[DavePHX]

I have a another due for a review of the City of Industry clubs very soon.Gosh brings back memories if you mean COI just East of LA. Decades ago I enjoyed some of the LA hostess clubs and also there were some good strip clubs in COI which I believe are still there although not as many as then.

[Higgs Boson]

Gosh brings back memories if you mean COI just East of LA. Decades ago I enjoyed some of the LA hostess clubs and also there were some good strip clubs in COI which I believe are still there although not as many as then.Dave, I love you man, but I don't think you understood my post.

Higgs.

[Dick North]

Visited a club today ... oh gosh don't want to reveal the time or club name.
Had the most fantastic experience ever with ... oh gosh don't want to reveal the dancer's 'stage' name.
Wow, you just would not believe how she performed for me.
But you can imagine & dream can't you?
DN.

[JayTomCar]

I was in Phoenix Saturday and decided to go check out the blue moon. Based on the many reviews here it seemed the right thing to do. I entered and immediately went blind. I is dark. I felt my way into the rooom and found a seat and waited for my sight to return. It did. Then the fun began. First dance to sit down and visit was a MILF named Maya. She is a tall blond lady with a nice body. Around a 7 on my scal e. We visited for a while, as she rubed my leg and kept moving closer and closer to my little let. That really got my attention, so decided to do the VIP dance with her and WOW. Sure glad I did. Lots of great touching and cuddling. Last song was the climax. Literally. The famous BLM handshake was really awesome. I am an older guy and don't usually get a he. Not this time! WOW. After I left the blue moon I was driving back to Tucson and discovered I was missing my wallet. First thought was I must have lost it at the Blue Moon. I called and the guy on the desk answered the phione and said yep. He had my wallet. Told me a dance named Lisa found it and turned it in. Really refreshing to see that honesty in a strip club. I don't know who Lisa is, but aI will be tipping her well and getting a VIP dance from her. If you would like to have a very good experience in an older strtip club, check it out. I will be back. And back. And back.

[Dick North]

The best part of that one was that you took the bait. You went ballistic and I laughed my ass off while relaxing in my study. That's the best part of this job. It doesn't pay well but having you get all worked up over nothing: priceless.

"Higgs".Wow so you thought I went 'ballistic'? . Jeepers, I thought my post was thoughtful and quite reasonable. Who does want to read posts about strip club experiences that offer no information for mongers?

So did I get 'worked up' over nothing, well yes I did as your post was about 'nothing'.

DN.

[Higgs Boson]

My Bandaids reports: the greater the detail, length, or specificity of activity the less likely I'll give precise info regarding dancer names and descriptions.

I consider Bandaids my "home" club: the place I spend the most time among the Valley's clubs.

I assume that anyone can read our reports. That means not only regular forum folks, but LE, anti-sex activists, SC management and employees, dancers, voyeurs, and curiosity seekers. Careful use of detail or obscurity may protect any particular dancer from harassment or worse. I generally believe that what happens between me and the dancer is not necessarily to be shared in detail with the rest of the world. Maybe only the generalities. I may be willing to say dancer XXXX may have the softest breasts on the planet because I'm fairly certain I'm not the only one to have that pleasure.

I also have my own anonymity to consider. I like to be just another guy having fun with beautiful women. But I also like to discretely share useful information with fellow readers. I don't want to walk into a club and have staff or dancers think, here's the guy who wrote about us or me. Since I spend a lot of time at Bandaids, the more I talk about details, activities and names, the more my anonymity is at risk. I may relate more activity details later if enough time has elapsed. I'm more likely to mention dancers' names from other clubs because it is less likely a connection may be made. In a report on Bandaids, if I get more than four dances or spend more 60 minutes, with a dancer, I may not offer a lot of detail.

So here are some choices if someone is unhappy with my reports.

Take a deep breath.

Have a beverage (or two).

Take a pill.

Ask me questions via PM. If you're a contributor and not a dick, I may help.

Put me on your ignore list.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Occasionally I get a PM. The most recent one, someone wanted to know if Bandaids dancer XXXXX is any good for OTC. I said, I don't know a dancer by that name or what she may look like. You've done VIP with her and have her phone number, perhaps you should be talking with her. And since you have never contributed to the forum, probably no other person will help you either. We don't know what your motivation might be. For example, you might be a stalker. The other person said, Oh, I thought you were a regular at Bandaids.

One, I'm very flattered that someone thinks I've done OTC with every dancer at Bandaids. And a perhaps a little frightened at the thought of OTC with some of them.

Second, there are a lot of Bandaids dancers spread among several shifts. Just a wild ass guess, I wouldn't be surprised if there were 150 - 200 dancers there in the course of a week. (Out of curiosity I may ask some Bandaids management person) Anyway, the place opens at 11 AM most days and there are a couple of afternoon shifts, early evening, late evening shifts. A Bandaids dancer has a lot of flexibility about when they work: days, evening, late evening, weekdays, Saturdays, Sundays, etc. Management leaves it up to the dancer. I'm mostly a weekend evening customer, so I don't see many daytime dancers. I may not see even half the dancers. Chances are I'll never meet dancer XXXXX.

The second PM I received was from a respected Tucson contributor who wanted info about local latinas off of BP. Heck, I have no idea where he got the idea I'd know anything about that. I hope he posed that question to someone who contributes to that area.

Higgs.

[Butter3592]

What was the damage?


I was in Phoenix Saturday and decided to go check out the blue moon. Based on the many reviews here it seemed the right thing to do. I entered and immediately went blind. I is dark. I felt my way into the rooom and found a seat and waited for my sight to return. It did. Then the fun began. First dance to sit down and visit was a MILF named Maya. She is a tall blond lady with a nice body. Around a 7 on my scal e. We visited for a while, as she rubed my leg and kept moving closer and closer to my little let. That really got my attention, so decided to do the VIP dance with her and WOW. Sure glad I did. Lots of great touching and cuddling. Last song was the climax. Literally. The famous BLM handshake was really awesome. I am an older guy and don't usually get a he. Not this time! WOW. After I left the blue moon I was driving back to Tucson and discovered I was missing my wallet. First thought was I must have lost it at the Blue Moon. I called and the guy on the desk answered the phione and said yep. He had my wallet. Told me a dance named Lisa found it and turned it in. Really refreshing to see that honesty in a strip club. I don't know who Lisa is, but aI will be tipping her well and getting a VIP dance from her. If you would like to have a very good experience in an older strtip club, check it out. I will be back. And back. And back.

[Deboinair]

Occasionally I get a PM. The most recent one, someone wanted to know if Bandaids dancer XXXXX is any good for OTC. I said, I don't know a dancer by that name or what she may look like. You've done VIP with her and have her phone number, perhaps you should be talking with her. And since you have never contributed to the forum, probably no other person will help you either. We don't know what your motivation might be. For example, you might be a stalker. The other person said, Oh, I thought you were a regular at Bandaids.

One, I'm very flattered that someone thinks I've done OTC with every dancer at Bandaids. And a perhaps a little frightened at the thought of OTC with some of them.

Second, there are a lot of Bandaids dancers spread among several shifts. Just a wild ass guess, I wouldn't be surprised if there were 150 - 200 dancers there in the course of a week. (Out of curiosity I may ask some Bandaids management person) Anyway, the place opens at 11 AM most days and there are a couple of afternoon shifts, early evening, late evening shifts. A Bandaids dancer has a lot of flexibility about when they work: days, evening, late evening, weekdays, Saturdays, Sundays, etc. Management leaves it up to the dancer. I'm mostly a weekend evening customer, so I don't see many daytime dancers. I may not see even half the dancers. Chances are I'll never meet dancer XXXXX.

The second PM I received was from a respected Tucson contributor who wanted info about local latinas off of BP. Heck, I have no idea where he got the idea I'd know anything about that. I hope he posed that question to someone who contributes to that area.

Higgs.Why won't you answer my PMs. LOL. Seriously tho. I would never talk about OTC experience on the forum. I agree that dancer names should be dropped either. Just the ones you danced with of course. And which clubs suck and which dancers do also.

[Desert Rat]

I posted a review of a BP girl named Kendra. She said she works at an exclusive club in the Valley and gave me the name. I had never even heard of it and rarely see it mentioned on USA. In the opinion of my esteemed colleagues which club do you think is the highest end in the Valley?

[DrPoon]

I posted a review of a BP girl named Kendra. She said she works at an exclusive club in the Valley and gave me the name. I had never even heard of it and rarely see it mentioned on USA. In the opinion of my esteemed colleagues which club do you think is the highest end in the Valley?Skin.

$10 admission.

$2 bills for tips.

I got a free dance from a stripper there once.

[Higgs Boson]

(edit) exclusive club in the Valley and gave me the name. I had never even heard of it and rarely see it mentioned on USA. In the opinion of my esteemed colleagues which club do you think is the highest end in the Valley?Highest end? I'll take a stab at this.

If "exclusive" or highest end refers to opulent, fancy or upper end facilities, I'd nominate the two Christies' first, then Bourbon Street and Hi Liter. Wait, Xplicit has the newest physical structure. It's fairly shiny and new, inside and out. Also, Sugar 44, had a total remodel a few years ago. It was pretty shiny when I went in last.

If ostentation or pretension is meant, I'd go with the Christies' clubs. From the over the top interiors to the preference for dancers wearing gowns and the big presentation of each dancer coming down the stairs (32nd St Club), yeah, I'd go with the Christies' clubs.

I like to think of Christies' as the places to take your company's visiting vice president who asks about visiting a club. A safe bet for your career path. Nothing shocking is going to happen on the floor, just some harmless tease, yet you've satisfied the boss's request and not have to worry about the VPs reaction to getting a dancer headstand on their lap. You only have to worry if he / she says, "Too tame. Now take me someplace really nasty".

If exclusive means, not everyone can get in, or somehow private membership, I have no idea.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

There are two sisters who wear matching outfits and dance on stage together. They're fairly attractive but they probably do better as a team. I saw a guy getting a doubles dance. Not sure it was actually worth doubling the cost.
I wonder if these are the same two dancers I've seen at Essex and occasionally at Bandaids. It's like they're almost joined at the hip. If one goes somewhere, the other is right behind her. In Bandaids, I've seen them paired up by the bar, then immediately retreating to the dressing room, then back the bar area, then one get's called to the bar-side stage and the other takes a seat on a stool right by the stage stairs. During my interesting weekend 10 days ago at Bandaids, one took the main stage and the other took a seat next to the stage. I find it interesting just because it's so outside what dancers typically do. I mean, there are dancers who like each other in the clubs but approach customers on their own. I wonder if this pair makes any money at all. I have never seen them even talk with a customer. As you say, they're not gorgeous but attractive. By not engaging with the customers I think they take a big hit in income. They must just be counting on "stage rain" and tips. I would think they'd double their income if they talked with customers and got some lap dances between the stage appearances but maybe they're not comfortable with the intimacy of lap dances.

Higgs.

[Desert Rat]

It was one of the first three you mentioned. The funny thing is she said she was giving HJ all the time in the VIP area. She started to wonder why she was making so little money why risking getting busted. According to her she was a sugar baby for awhile and really liked it. However, now she is dancing and being an escort and making major bucks. Her hourly rate is $300 so she is doing well.

[Deboinair]

I wonder if these are the same two dancers I've seen at Essex and occasionally at Bandaids. It's like they're almost joined at the hip. If one goes somewhere, the other is right behind her. In Bandaids, I've seen them paired up by the bar, then immediately retreating to the dressing room, then back the bar area, then one get's called to the bar-side stage and the other takes a seat on a stool right by the stage stairs. During my interesting weekend 10 days ago at Bandaids, one took the main stage and the other took a seat next to the stage. I find it interesting just because it's so outside what dancers typically do. I mean, there are dancers who like each other in the clubs but approach customers on their own. I wonder if this pair makes any money at all. I have never seen them even talk with a customer. As you say, they're not gorgeous but attractive. By not engaging with the customers I think they take a big hit in income. They must just be counting on "stage rain" and tips. I would think they'd double their income if they talked with customers and got some lap dances between the stage appearances but maybe they're not comfortable with the intimacy of lap dances.

Higgs.It's probably one of the dumbest ideas a stripper could do IMO and a sense of immaturity. I've only seen it a few times in my strip club run. I never saw them in any case make much money. I remember when I lived not to far from Pink Rhino. I'd go there on Wednesday night for the $1 drinks anything you wanted. There were two Latin girls that did the same thing. I don't think they were sisters though. The only way I think they make money is if they are setting up for OTC. Even with that, that smells like trouble. Two girls and OTC, I would never do. Smells like drama or robbery or both IMO.

[Higgs Boson]

(edit)
Pink Rhino. I'd go there on Wednesday night for the $1 drinks anything you wanted.Essex also has dollar drinks on Wednesday nights. I had an unplanned visit there one Wednesday night in the two or three months, and the security guys were saying, big night, dollar drinks, lots of dancers. I probably didn't stay late enough but all I saw was lots of customer diving into the drinks, and not a lot of dancers. The dancers were sitting at the bar when they weren't onstage and customers weren't asking for dances.

When I was at Bandaids 10 days ago, one of the security guys there who also works at Essex, recommended the Wednesday nights at Essex. I suppose he might know. Maybe I just went on the wrong Wednesday night, but OTOH, Essex dancers experience more "rain" there compared to Bandaids and Hi Liter. Less satisfying for me but a couple dancers I've been pining for may be there on those nights.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

I posted a review of a BP girl named Kendra. She said she works at an exclusive club in the Valley and gave me the name. I had never even heard of it and rarely see it mentioned on USA. In the opinion of my esteemed colleagues which club do you think is the highest end in the Valley?Based on your physical description on the other thread I strongly suspect that I saw this Kendra at Bandaids last week. So of the three exclusive clubs mentioned I've got my guess.

[Deboinair]

Essex also has dollar drinks on Wednesday nights. I had an unplanned visit there one Wednesday night in the two or three months, and the security guys were saying, big night, dollar drinks, lots of dancers. I probably didn't stay late enough but all I saw was lots of customer diving into the drinks, and not a lot of dancers. The dancers were sitting at the bar when they weren't onstage and customers weren't asking for dances.

When I was at Bandaids 10 days ago, one of the security guys there who also works at Essex, recommended the Wednesday nights at Essex. I suppose he might know. Maybe I just went on the wrong Wednesday night, but OTOH, Essex dancers experience more "rain" there compared to Bandaids and Hi Liter. Less satisfying for me but a couple dancers I've been pining for may be there on those nights.

Higgs.Essex probably one of the worse clubs IMO. I've been several times. I'm a day time guy, but I've been there a few times at night from drinking too much, so much water was needed so I stayed. Maybe one or two girls for my liking and the "make it rain" is not in my vocabulary. Also it's not $1 for any drink. They have a set menu. Essex, Hi Liter, and Bandaids went up on drinks and started charging earlier. Bandaids on Sunday does the 2 for 1, but it's not for every drink anymore. I've cooled off going to all of those clubs. Pink Rhino was worth it. I had plenty Remy Martin's for a $1 there and there were WAY BETTER looking dancers there also. These Phoenix clubs are killing me with the "You call it's" and it's not actually that.

Right now I'm just sticking with C Folds. Close to home, really good bartender and they keep adding diversity. Met a Half Asian / Black named Mia. Her friend was very cute also but I forgot her name. They both got fired from Hi Liter. Also met a sexy chocolate super petite dancer by the name of Starr.

[Higgs Boson]

Skin.
$10 admission.
$2 bills for tips.
I got a free dance from a stripper there once.You seem to be advocating for Skin as opposed to other clubs. I would love to hear more. What draws you to Skin?

Higgs.

[DrPoon]

You seem to be advocating for Skin as opposed to other clubs. I would love to hear more. What draws you to Skin?

Higgs.Well I haven't went there in some time but whenever I went it was pretty good. Most of the girls have breast implants so if you like that bodytype then it is the place. Also if you want at the end of the night you can go to the Dream Palace afterwards for a few hours. My route at one time was first to go to Z-Tejas maybe get a drink at the Scottsdale Mall (free safe long term parking in a mall parking garage) then take the bus down to Skin (Route 72 I believe), then walk to Dream Palace at 2 am, then take a taxi home. Really convenient as far as logistics.

[Higgs Boson]

Well I haven't went there in some time but whenever I went it was pretty good. Most of the girls have breast implants so if you like that bodytype then it is the place.Not a desirable attribute for me but I know some guys like it.


Also if you want at the end of the night you can go to the Dream Palace afterwards for a few hours. My route at one time was first to go to Z-Tejas maybe get a drink at the Scottsdale Mall (free safe long term parking in a mall parking garage) then take the bus down to Skin (Route 72 I believe), then walk to Dream Palace at 2 am, then take a taxi home. Really convenient as far as logistics.Straight shot from the fashion park. Convenient.

Thanks for explaining.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

Essex probably one of the worse clubs IMO. I've been several times. I'm a day time guy, but I've been there a few times at night from drinking too much, so much water was needed so I stayed. Maybe one or two girls for my liking and the "make it rain" is not in my vocabulary.I also prefer the table dances. I can't cite a percentage but almost everytime I go I see two or three gems among the dancers, and I'm often able to connect with one of them. One of the most beautiful dancers I've ever met moved around between Essex, Pink Rhino, and Xecutive. Dancers like her keep drawing me back to Essex. Secondary to that, I think the security guys are cool.


Also it's not $1 for any drink. They have a set menu. Essex, Hi Liter, and Bandaids went up on drinks and started charging earlier. Bandaids on Sunday does the 2 for 1, but it's not for every drink anymore. I've cooled off going to all of those clubs. Pink Rhino was worth it. I had plenty Remy Martin's for a $1 there and there were WAY BETTER looking dancers there also. These Phoenix clubs are killing me with the "You call it's" and it's not actually that.Yes, thanks for correcting me. It's not really $1 drinks but a set menu at Essex for $1 plus a separate list for slightly more. As for Pink Rhino and Remy Martin's, they may have been able to do that because they were evading some liquor taxes. We'll see if they open up again as a night club. IMO it would be a good thing. I agree there were some very hot dancers there. I wonder if anyone here has checked to see if it's been operating as an after hours nude place which is the rumor I heard.

Speaking of liquor laws, Chicas has a big sign by the front door that a full liquor licence has been applied for.


Right now I'm just sticking with C Folds. Close to home, really good bartender and they keep adding diversity. Met a Half Asian / Black named Mia. Her friend was very cute also but I forgot her name. They both got fired from Hi Liter. Also met a sexy chocolate super petite dancer by the name of Starr.Thanks for talking about Centerfolds. That place seems to go through phases with black dancers, they have some nice ones then they disappear.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

Not packed but pretty full late Wednesday night. $10 cover. Bottled drinks were $7 -- way too much. The interior is pretty upscale but I didn't quite remember if that way from my previous visit.

Crowd could have been some baseball fans. Hard to tell except for the guys in business shirts who probably came from work. Most of the girls I saw were solid 8's and possibly some 9's. Artificial enhancement and whiteness dominated the room to be sure. Girl approached before drink arrived. I have completely forgotten her name but up close her face and body were not super hot.

She chatted for a few minutes. Then she got up and said we should get dances and started pulling on my arm. Since somebody said the girls set their own prices here I asked her how much her dances were. $25. I assume she wanted to drag me straight to VIP.

I wasn't even ready for dances at that point so I told her to just come back later. So she started giving me some attitude with "I can't do that. " I must have had a puzzled look on my face so she added "I'll be too busy giving dances to somebody else. " She didn't storm off or anything. Actually she came off as entirely serious. Told me her age was 24 which fits right into the bracket of entitled ladies we've discussed before.

Didn't hang around too much longer. Mostly a waste.

[DrPoon]

Just reading the report below and when the stripper says she is busy that is actually a great thing. That way you don't have to spend any money and you can ask for her number. Or sometimes if you think she is guarded then don't ask for her number but ask for her email and tell her you will catch up with her later. After she gives you her email then say I need a way to remember you so just go ahead and text me one of your pictures.

Then of course when you get home you reverse image search the picture and put her email and / or number into the facebook search tab. If you can find out what regular clubs she hangs out at or when something is planned you can accidentally pop up and bump in to her and say its fate that you met again so then start talking and make plans for a free / reduced price session back at her place.

[Danimal Forth]

Just reading the report below and when the stripper says she is busy that is actually a great thing.Let me just clarify that she was full of it. She wasn't busy then and I highly doubt she had any way to anticipate being busier a half hour later. It was her way of saving face and after the spoiled brat attitude I didn't want her to return anyway.

I know that the standard answer to "Want a dance?" is "Maybe later". All the ladies hate that line and most guys don't really mean it. But the smart thing to do is to take it at face value, especially since I explicitly suggested she could come back. The waitress came over with my drink order while she was sitting on my lap. Am I wrong that most guys want to settle in for a little bit?

If I want a dance from a lady I'll often walk across the room and tell her. (I'll never understand why guys are intimated by a pretty girl in a strip club.) Sometimes I'll leave a nice tip when she's on stage. So while I can remember some of super hot girls getting miffed when I turn down the dance offer, I can't recall a girl ever shutting the door on all potential for future sales with a lame excuse like that one.

[Deboinair]

Let me just clarify that she was full of it. She wasn't busy then and I highly doubt she had any way to anticipate being busier a half hour later. It was her way of saving face and after the spoiled brat attitude I didn't want her to return anyway.

I know that the standard answer to "Want a dance?" is "Maybe later". All the ladies hate that line and most guys don't really mean it. But the smart thing to do is to take it at face value, especially since I explicitly suggested she could come back. The waitress came over with my drink order while she was sitting on my lap. Am I wrong that most guys want to settle in for a little bit?

If I want a dance from a lady I'll often walk across the room and tell her. (I'll never understand why guys are intimated by a pretty girl in a strip club.) Sometimes I'll leave a nice tip when she's on stage. So while I can remember some of super hot girls getting miffed when I turn down the dance offer, I can't recall a girl ever shutting the door on all potential for future sales with a lame excuse like that one.

I lived in Scottsdale 6 months of my first year last year. Did you know that I never EVER step foot in any Scottsdale strip clubs and I owe all of you guys the thanks. Bony flat booty Blond women with fake boobs is never what I'm looking for. You have to understand that a lot of guys that go to strip clubs are awkward with women. They are the reason why these clubs prosper. The first girl that says hello to them they are throwing away their money. Doesn't matter the attitude or if the performance is mediocre. This is where you get the spoiled brat attitude. I don't disrespect strippers, but I'm not treating them like a woman that doesn't. Some guys treat them like they are their girlfriends which is a big no no.

If a stripper first question is "Do you want a dance?" I just say no thanks. That's a red flag that she is going to be pretty mechanical. They don't have to talk my ear off, but play the game a little bit. I usually get eye contact with the ones I like and they usually come over. Yeah I never understood why some guys are intimidated by strippers. It's supposed to be the easiest place to talk to women. They want money.

[Danimal Forth]

The newest upgrade at Bandaids looks to be a setup for grabbing photos of guys coming in. I'm sure Essex will get it too although I could see Hi-Liter getting left out. Jaguars does already too. Considering the GPS on your phone, your car's license plate in plain view out in the parking lot, and the drivers license swipe it probably doesn't make much difference to most people. This comes right after an upgrade to the bar system and an increase in drink prices which somebody already mentioned.

I'm going to say that the sisters at Jaguars are probably not the ones you've seen at Bandaids. I just don't think it fits my impression of them. But maybe I'm wrong. I've always seen them in matching outfits. One of them likes to put her hair up in a bun and has some star tattoos on her upper leg and hip if that sounds familiar.

[Danimal Forth]

Sign out front only says Friday and Saturday 1 am - 5 am. No indications of anything nude.

[CrazyAsianJet]

I lived in Scottsdale 6 months of my first year last year. Did you know that I never EVER step foot in any Scottsdale strip clubs and I owe all of you guys the thanks. Bony flat booty Blond women with fake boobs is never what I'm looking for. You have to understand that a lot of guys that go to strip clubs are awkward with women. They are the reason why these clubs prosper. The first girl that says hello to them they are throwing away their money. Doesn't matter the attitude or if the performance is mediocre. This is where you get the spoiled brat attitude. I don't disrespect strippers, but I'm not treating them like a woman that doesn't. Some guys treat them like they are their girlfriends which is a big no no.

If a stripper first question is "Do you want a dance?" I just say no thanks. That's a red flag that she is going to be pretty mechanical. They don't have to talk my ear off, but play the game a little bit. I usually get eye contact with the ones I like and they usually come over. Yeah I never understood why some guys are intimidated by strippers. It's supposed to be the easiest place to talk to women. They want money."Do you want a dance? Hello it is their job.

1.) Job, LOL yes the girl hustles for a living.

Get real. There are no true "red-flags" in the game and guys like this will never get smart; just leave with his pric still hard. Yes, be respectful. Sometime I have a fine little woman walk up on me and I'll slipping a finger in her and do a deal in the first few minutes. Other times I'd throw a five spot and kiss a girl on the cheek the say get it with your regulars first. RESPECT. THAT IS RESPECT goes a long way.

[DrPoon]

Are the photos meant to deter armed robberies? It's amazing all the 24 hour Walmarts are now closing at Midnight and one of the Walmart manager told me it was because of robberies. I would think a strip club would be a great armed robbery target especially at 2 am Saturday at the end of the night when their cash is really high and a lower traffic level and lower LE patrol levels or focusing on DUI stops. I think in Tempe, on Saturday at 2 am that city is essentially in a state of anarchy. So if you are going to poon or commit any other crime in Tempe that is the time to do it.


The newest upgrade at Bandaids looks to be a setup for grabbing photos of guys coming in. I'm sure Essex will get it too although I could see Hi-Liter getting left out. Jaguars does already too. Considering the GPS on your phone, your car's license plate in plain view out in the parking lot, and the drivers license swipe it probably doesn't make much difference to most people. This comes right after an upgrade to the bar system and an increase in drink prices which somebody already mentioned.

I'm going to say that the sisters at Jaguars are probably not the ones you've seen at Bandaids. I just don't think it fits my impression of them. But maybe I'm wrong. I've always seen them in matching outfits. One of them likes to put her hair up in a bun and has some star tattoos on her upper leg and hip if that sounds familiar.

[Deboinair]

"Do you want a dance? Hello it is their job.

1.) Job, LOL yes the girl hustles for a living.

Get real. There are no true "red-flags" in the game and guys like this will never get smart; just leave with his pric still hard. Yes, be respectful. Sometime I have a fine little woman walk up on me and I'll slipping a finger in her and do a deal in the first few minutes. Other times I'd throw a five spot and kiss a girl on the cheek the say get it with your regulars first. RESPECT. THAT IS RESPECT goes a long way.Cool story bro.

[Deboinair]

Are the photos meant to deter armed robberies? It's amazing all the 24 hour Walmarts are now closing at Midnight and one of the Walmart manager told me it was because of robberies. I would think a strip club would be a great armed robbery target especially at 2 am Saturday at the end of the night when their cash is really high and a lower traffic level and lower LE patrol levels or focusing on DUI stops. I think in Tempe, on Saturday at 2 am that city is essentially in a state of anarchy. So if you are going to poon or commit any other crime in Tempe that is the time to do it.You are pretty much watched every where you got. I was at Walmart on Dunlap near 7th st. They actually have cameras in the isles. I'm thinking to myself, wow just wow. The card swiping and taking photos or cameras does not bother me one bit. I'm not doing anything illegal so it's fine with me. I think maybe if a guy is married he may care though. But all in all I just think it's just security measures.

[Danimal Forth]

Are the photos meant to deter armed robberies?Not sure. I did talk to somebody who has a long history there. Apparently they used to take a photo some years ago too.

[Jamesj]

You are pretty much watched every where you got. I was at Walmart on Dunlap near 7th st. They actually have cameras in the isles. I'm thinking to myself, wow just wow. The card swiping and taking photos or cameras does not bother me one bit. I'm not doing anything illegal so it's fine with me. I think maybe if a guy is married he may care though. But all in all I just think it's just security measures.I refuse to enter any place that requires my I'd to be swiped.

Had SAGE & SAND (bar in Litchfield Park) do that.

After a week or two, started getting all kinds of junk mail and telle-marketing.

(once they have your name and address, can easily find your number).

Several friends went the same evening, also happened to them.

Many of these places SELL your info.

They do NOT erase the info at the end of the day, like they claim.

Sure LE could get search warrants (with cause) to search their data base.

Use extreme caution, or get a fake I'd.

JAMESJ.

[Higgs Boson]

I'm going to say that the sisters at Jaguars are probably not the ones you've seen at Bandaids. I just don't think it fits my impression of them. But maybe I'm wrong. I've always seen them in matching outfits. One of them likes to put her hair up in a bun and has some star tattoos on her upper leg and hip if that sounds familiar.I'm pretty sure they aren't the same. I was at Bandaids Friday night and saw the pair I've been talking about. They aren't dressed the same and I actually saw them talking with customers in the lounge area. Not sure if they were doing table dances. I was pretty occupied with a Latina (slender and nice butt unfortunately the name isn't coming to me), plus sky, Fanta, Cashmere, and Cherry.

Higgs.

[Deboinair]

I refuse to enter any place that requires my I'd to be swiped.

Had SAGE & SAND (bar in Litchfield Park) do that.

After a week or two, started getting all kinds of junk mail and telle-marketing.

(once they have your name and address, can easily find your number).

Several friends went the same evening, also happened to them.

Many of these places SELL your info.

They do NOT erase the info at the end of the day, like they claim.

Sure LE could get search warrants (with cause) to search their data base.

Use extreme caution, or get a fake I'd.

JAMESJ.I have to say that has never happened to me. I've only had my card swiped at strip clubs though. I'm not doing anything illegal so I could care less if LE wants to search the data base.

[Hiloc]

I refuse to enter any place that requires my I'd to be swiped.

Had SAGE & SAND (bar in Litchfield Park) do that.

After a week or two, started getting all kinds of junk mail and telle-marketing.

(once they have your name and address, can easily find your number).

Several friends went the same evening, also happened to them.

Many of these places SELL your info.

They do NOT erase the info at the end of the day, like they claim.

Sure LE could get search warrants (with cause) to search their data base.

Use extreme caution, or get a fake I'd.

JAMESJ.I have my I'd swiped at Alaskan Bush, Bandaids, highlighter and a few others. There is nothing illegal about going to any of those places and I've never received any junk mail. Now, if IDs are required at AMPs then I would be concerned.

[AzTallMan]

I have my I'd swiped at Alaskan Bush, Bandaids, highlighter and a few others. There is nothing illegal about going to any of those places and I've never received any junk mail. Now, if IDs are required at AMPs then I would be concerned.I stopped at HiLiter two weeks ago and this made me not want to go back. I am not concerned if someone swipes my I'd to see if it is valid and verify age. However HiLiter is using a color scanner that captures both sides of the I'd and stores the images. Not worried about LE knowing I hit a strip club. What about the upset employee or hacker who swipes a copy and posts our pic and home address to the web and dates we were there. Someone searches my name on Google and that comes up and it is not so cool.

Got to love technology!

BTW. Long time lurker quite familiar with SC and massage scene here.

[Higgs Boson]

Dropped by Bandaids tonight. Was getting ready to order a, yes, beverage at the bar, when Lexy walked up, gave me a hug, and asked me if I was prepared for some dances. I can't say no to her, she's sweet and beautiful, and she went outside to get her dance bag.

It's been months since I've seen her. She used to be a little skinny, even slightly boney in parts but she added a little weight in the past two or three months that got distributed around to all the good places. For her dance costume she wore a bikini style two piece that showed off her figure to great effect.

Otherwise, things were quiet until around 9 Pm and more customers appeared. Filled up the bar itself but not much else. One dancer pointed out that it was the end of Spring Break, but I don't think Bandaids gets an over abundance of college students.

I also got dances with Royalty. Other dancers I noticed this evening include Charisma, Diamond, Monica, Kelly and Ocean.

Higgs.

[Heel Lover]

Only posting this to state a fact of what happened a few weeks ago at this club. Not too big of a deal, just one dancer attitude problem.

Let me preface the report by saying I really like this club and have been going here for years (mostly during the day). Also what happened was actually my fault because I was being too nice and tried to give a dancer a second chance (I have a good memory with personalities- other attitude problem with her happened a couple years ago). Anyway dancer's name was Hailey, it was dead in the club I think at the time only 4 dancers-probably around 7:30 maybe 8 by the time it happened. I figured I would get a dance or two and then just leave because it was so dead (I realize that sometimes it is slow in there and am ok with that because every other dancer has been awesome to me over the years).

Anyway she asks if I want a dance (I figure I would just get one from her and basically be nice and see what happens) -one girl was in the back (dressing room, not private) and the other two girls were busy giving dances or maybe one was on stage at this time. There were only like 4 customers in the club also. I told her sure, but let's just wait until the next song (it had already been going for like 30 seconds, which in strip club terms is an eternity). She said but this song just started. I tried to be nice again and said well that's ok I don't like this song but let's do a dance next song-whether she sat with me or not would be irrelevant even though most girls just would sit with you until the song ended (meaning she could do whatever and then come back right as it ended and then we'd start). She then said something to the effect of -and I won't quote because I don't remember exactly and I'm paraprashing-but it was the bitchiest thing ever. It was like well I don't like any of the songs they play here and it doesn't matter because we dance to what they play and that's why we are all here. Unbelievable. So then I say no thanks then I'll pass.

Now it could have ended there or I could have just left pissed off or whatever, but this is the funniest part. Thanks to those who are still reading. I sat there a little confused / angry / dumbfounded (remember it was dead as can be at the time and it would have only have been like a 2 and a half to 3 minute wait whether she waited at the bar at the dj booth or with me is irrevelant). Also I am a regular, have been going here for years-at least 7 years probably more- and spent good amounts of money over those years here, and have never even had the slightest of problems with anyone other than Hailey.

Oh shit here's the funny part. So by the time maybe one more song ends a beautiful dancer named Kitana walks up-I had only seen her a couple of times before and only had one or two dances in the past with her so it's not like I spent a ton of money with her before. She sits down and we make small talk and then she asks if I was interested in dances. I say sure -by this time she had talked to me for about a full song and then the second song had just started (maybe 15 seconds in). I didn't say anything because she was so cool and I wouldh've been fine if she started right then. But then she said something like well we'll just chat for a bit longer and then start next song because this one has already started! Too awesome, too funny and she was so cool. I got two dances from her, thanked her and chatted with her for like a minute and never mentioned what had happened right before she went and talked to me.

I understand everyone has different experiences and dancers all have bad days and aren't always treated well by customers, but I didn't think I was asking for too much. Especially when I have never had this problem or any problem for that matter with any of the girls at Desert Flame before. Oh well as Arnold would say. I'll be back. I'll be sure not to cheat with my ugly housekeeper (I don't even have one) in the meantime.

Take care and have fun everyone.

[Deboinair]

Only posting this to state a fact of what happened a few weeks ago at this club. Not too big of a deal, just one dancer attitude problem.

Let me preface the report by saying I really like this club and have been going here for years (mostly during the day). Also what happened was actually my fault because I was being too nice and tried to give a dancer a second chance (I have a good memory with personalities- other attitude problem with her happened a couple years ago). Anyway dancer's name was Hailey, it was dead in the club I think at the time only 4 dancers-probably around 7:30 maybe 8 by the time it happened. I figured I would get a dance or two and then just leave because it was so dead (I realize that sometimes it is slow in there and am ok with that because every other dancer has been awesome to me over the years).

Anyway she asks if I want a dance (I figure I would just get one from her and basically be nice and see what happens) -one girl was in the back (dressing room, not private) and the other two girls were busy giving dances or maybe one was on stage at this time. There were only like 4 customers in the club also. I told her sure, but let's just wait until the next song (it had already been going for like 30 seconds, which in strip club terms is an eternity). She said but this song just started. I tried to be nice again and said well that's ok I don't like this song but let's do a dance next song-whether she sat with me or not would be irrelevant even though most girls just would sit with you until the song ended (meaning she could do whatever and then come back right as it ended and then we'd start). She then said something to the effect of -and I won't quote because I don't remember exactly and I'm paraprashing-but it was the bitchiest thing ever. It was like well I don't like any of the songs they play here and it doesn't matter because we dance to what they play and that's why we are all here. Unbelievable. So then I say no thanks then I'll pass.

Now it could have ended there or I could have just left pissed off or whatever, but this is the funniest part. Thanks to those who are still reading. I sat there a little confused / angry / dumbfounded (remember it was dead as can be at the time and it would have only have been like a 2 and a half to 3 minute wait whether she waited at the bar at the dj booth or with me is irrevelant). Also I am a regular, have been going here for years-at least 7 years probably more- and spent good amounts of money over those years here, and have never even had the slightest of problems with anyone other than Hailey.

Oh shit here's the funny part. So by the time maybe one more song ends a beautiful dancer named Kitana walks up-I had only seen her a couple of times before and only had one or two dances in the past with her so it's not like I spent a ton of money with her before. She sits down and we make small talk and then she asks if I was interested in dances. I say sure -by this time she had talked to me for about a full song and then the second song had just started (maybe 15 seconds in). I didn't say anything because she was so cool and I wouldh've been fine if she started right then. But then she said something like well we'll just chat for a bit longer and then start next song because this one has already started! Too awesome, too funny and she was so cool. I got two dances from her, thanked her and chatted with her for like a minute and never mentioned what had happened right before she went and talked to me.

I understand everyone has different experiences and dancers all have bad days and aren't always treated well by customers, but I didn't think I was asking for too much. Especially when I have never had this problem or any problem for that matter with any of the girls at Desert Flame before. Oh well as Arnold would say. I'll be back. I'll be sure not to cheat with my ugly housekeeper (I don't even have one) in the meantime.

Take care and have fun everyone.Was Kitana Asian by any chance? I met one with that name last year at Hi Liter. She was really cool. But I was one and done at Desert Flame. That place is sooo far out from where I live and it wasn't worth the return. Average talent and it just was pretty dull IMO. I think that is the only club out that way also.

[DavePHX]

Bandaids.

3/25/2016 Fri 5 PM arrived very full but by 6 PM much fewer.

I was down closer to the area so stopped by. I got the last spot in the parking lot. Scads of guys in bar area but a few good seats in dance room. Seems to be quite a few more "large" gals. One very large gal had lots of dances with guy next to me, so some guys like the huge women.

Leese? And Candise. A bit larger bodies than my ideal but enjoyed and average 3 on intimacy scale.

? Latin accent aggressive gal I agreed to 1 dance but she rejected unless done in VIP.

Estrella. Not sure she recognizes me even though I've seen her for like 10 years. I always say do one and she asks if VIP? I have never done the VIP with anyone. I think she just knows she will get 1 dance from me. I do like the feel of her smooth body, the eye contact etc and her usual routine. Liked her breasts much better before she got them enhanced a few years ago.

[Higgs Boson]

Only posting this to state a fact of what happened a few weeks ago at this club (Desert Flame). Not too big of a deal, just one dancer attitude problem.(edit).


Anyway she asks if I want a dance (edit) I told her sure, but let's just wait until the next song (it had already been going for like 30 seconds, which in strip club terms is an eternity). She said but this song just started. I tried to be nice again and said well that's ok I don't like this song but let's do a dance next song (edit) She then said something to the effect of -and I won't quote because I don't remember exactly and I'm paraprashing-but it was the bitchiest thing ever.(edit).


So by the time maybe one more song ends a beautiful dancer named Kitana walks up-I had only seen her a couple of times before and only had one or two dances in the past with her so it's not like I spent a ton of money with her before. She sits down and we make small talk and then she asks if I was interested in dances. I say sure -by this time she had talked to me for about a full song and then the second song had just started (maybe 15 seconds in). I didn't say anything because she was so cool and I wouldh've been fine if she started right then. But then she said something like well we'll just chat for a bit longer and then start next song because this one has already started!One visit and two extreme examples of dancers' attitudes. The first: wow, who's the customer here? I can't see her lasting much longer with that approach. I think you handled that very well. She did not deserve a single dance.

As for Kitana, she'll have customers coming back for more dances. She created a positive atmosphere and experience for you, and you'll come back to see her again and again. Those are the dancers I like to meet.

I've only been to the Desert Flame once. It's a long way for me but I got to check it off my list of Valley clubs. I had an OK time that unfortunately coincided with Cinco de Mayo therefore not many customers or dancers. I know there are folks here who have had a great time at the Flame.

Higgs.

(In General: would folks please consider editing long quoted posts. I think it makes it easier to read and understand. Plus you don't have to scroll through screens to get to the point).

[Higgs Boson]

Bandaids. 3/25/2016 Fri 5 PM arrived very full but by 6 PM much fewer. I was down closer to the area so stopped by. I got the last spot in the parking lot. Scads of guys in bar area but a few good seats in dance room. Seems to be quite a few more "large" gals.You and I missed each other by a couple hours. I arrived around 7:30 for a short visit.

Yeah, latinas, always present but now are a sizable (pun intended) presence at Bandaids in the afternoons. To be fair, there are some nice slender and HWP latinas there too. Monica and Chanel first come to mind.



? Latin accent aggressive gal I agreed to 1 dance but she rejected unless done in VIP.I had that experience in the last month or so. Maybe the same person. A dyed blonde latina with large fake boobs thought she'd have me swooning when she pointed them in my direction and gave me the secret handshake. Despite my usual rule, well more of a guideline (grin), I don't participate with dancers possessing augmented breasts, I was still willing to give her a try-out. She dropped me when I refused to go the VIP. Like you, I have yet to get a VIP dance at Bandaids.


Estrella. Not sure she recognizes me even though I've seen her for like 10 years. I always say do one and she asks if VIP? I have never done the VIP with anyone. I think she just knows she will get 1 dance from me. I do like the feel of her smooth body, the eye contact etc and her usual routine. Liked her breasts much better before she got them enhanced a few years ago.I think I mentioned I told her before her enhancement that, if she did it, I'd never get a dance with her again. That promise has been easy to keep since I never felt much of a connection in her dances. She must like you, Dave. It's my impression that when she persuades someone to go to the VIP with her they generally exit after only one or two songs. I don't find that persuasive evidence that will get me to have another dance with her. Even so, almost every time I visit Bandaids she approaches and asks if I'm ready for her. That's probably never going to happen but I do like her sandwiches.

I've gotten to the point that I rarely get with a dancer for only one song. I think part of that is looking for a connection involving attractiveness and personality before I even agree to a dance. If I enjoy and like a particular dancer, I like to give her something that communicates that and that means a minimum of two dances, often more. I don't get dances with just anyone or everyone, and a single dance means there is or was a problem and I'm just cutting my loses.

Higgs.

[DavePHX]

I've gotten to the point that I rarely get with a dancer for only one song. I think part of that is looking for a connection involving attractiveness and personality before I even agree to a dance. If I enjoy and like a particular dancer, I like to give her something that communicates that and that means a minimum of two dances, often more. I don't get dances with just anyone or everyone, and a single dance means there is or was a problem and I'm just cutting my loses.
Higgs.Often if they don't seem like the sit and talk kind, and am attracted to them I will test drive for one dance. If they have sat and talked or I really like will do 2. If really like mire (4 or more on my intimacy scale) may do 3. I believe once in 10 years I did 4 with a dancer I really liked.

[Bigtim47]

Gentleman,

Great to see that my friends (Higgs and Dave) are actively posting on this site. I will not be out in AZ for a couple of weeks yet. I do agree that we posters have to be very careful giving out specific info about our strip club escapades. However, when I look at the Tucson site for clubs, I see quite a few "wild adventures" and "happy endings" at many of the clubs. Is this the norm for clubs in Tucson? What are "cabanas"? Just another name for VIP rooms? I'm very fussy about the dancers I'm attracted to. I need a quality young lady with a brain and a personality. So maybe that means I'm not much of a monger that will jump on just anything. So be it, that's me. No streetwalkers or back page ladies for me.

So, is it worth the drive down to Tucson? So far I'm happy with my time at Bourbon, HiLiter, and Desert Flame, and a few Saturday night tours with Higgs, Dave and Newbie. Please advise. BigTim.

[Heel Lover]

Kitana is Caucasian and has black hair. She's had blonde and red hair in the past so could change anytime I guess.

She is super nice and I talked to her in the bar area the time before last for quite a while after I got dances from her.

We chatted about everything from music, housing real life stuff and what other clubs I had visited in az (she asked).

She had said she auditioned at Christys (I think phoenix) and they turned her down.

I was like oh well their loss! She is really good looking and would do just fine there (I've been there during the day within the last year or so).

Anyway for all the other east valley people I recommend her for her looks AND personality.

And I also liked star before although I didn't see her the last two times (one Jan and one Feb I go during day right at 6 and stay till 8 or sometimes not as late). She is a mid 20 with black hair, pierced nipples, short and a lot of tats. Hopefully she's still working there.

Have fun everyone no matter which club you are going to.

BTW hope no one has recorded the night game and is reading this.

Because Villanova just upset kansas.

[Heel Lover]

(edit).

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One visit and two extreme examples of dancers' attitudes. The first: wow, who's the customer here? I can't see her lasting much longer with that approach. I think you handled that very well. She did not deserve a single dance.

As for Kitana, she'll have customers coming back for more dances. She created a positive atmosphere and experience for you, and you'll come back to see her again and again. Those are the dancers I like to meet.

I've only been to the Desert Flame once. It's a long way for me but I got to check it off my list of Valley clubs. I had an OK time that unfortunately coincided with Cinco de Mayo therefore not many customers or dancers. I know there are folks here who have had a great time at the Flame.

Higgs.

(In General: would folks please consider editing long quoted posts. I think it makes it easier to read and understand. Plus you don't have to scroll through screens to get to the point).I was there last year on the Saturday before Cinco de mayo. It was dead but it was also the same night as the manny / Mayweather fight.

[Bigtim47]

My favorite dancer at the Flame was always Abbey. Haven't been there lately, but I guess she still dances there some time.

[Heel Lover]

My favorite dancer at the Flame was always Abbey. Haven't been there lately, but I guess she still dances there some time.Good call on abbey! I guess I didn't mention her before because she is a night dancer.

I did have the pleasure of meeting her in early Dec.

I was about to leave for the night and she walked in the bar area (probably a little after 8 which would make sense since shift change is at 8).

I was like holy crap who is that. She has got the awesome m ilf (auto correct would change to milk without the space!) look going for.

I made sure to talk with her and get a few dances with her before leaving. She was cool and I remember talking to her before the dances about other possible clubs she had worked at (she hadn't been in az very long so none in az. Can't remember what state she was from but I probably said something cheesy like welcome to az and I hope you're enjoying the nice and great warmer weather. Remember this was in Dec.).

But yes she is very pretty and was very nice!

I think this was the first Saturday in December. It was busier that day. Probably because a holiday called something like Christmas was.

Like 3 weeks away.

[Peacekeeper]

I haven't been there in 2 or 3 months. Was just wondering if anyone has been there recently can recommend or avoid any of the girls there. Tia.

[Higgs Boson]

I haven't been there in 2 or 3 months. Was just wondering if anyone has been there recently can recommend or avoid any of the girls there. Tia.RTFF.

Yes, you might have to exert yourself by going back some pages.

Higgins.

[Danimal Forth]

Recently I looked over at Estrella walking past and thought she looked really great from behind. She's a nice girl when you can catch her at the right time except she's usually in business mode. Still it's hard to disagree with some of the other comments.

Sunny has been working again. She can use that small size to her advantage in there. As far as size on the opposite end of the spectrum there's a tatted and fairly pale white girl named Alice more into the plus range. She's been around for about two month now. I met her in the afternoon but I think she decided that nights work better for her. Alice worked at some other clubs before. Rounding out the white girl report Princess has been back after a long absence.

There's a new girl who came over from Hiliter. Victoria is half asian and it completely shows in her face. Her back side betrays the exotic mix though. She does have big implants and a large artistic tattoo across her back. Her hair is cut fairly short. Not enough interaction to rate her personality but she looks amazing. I saw her with another lady who was also very attractive herself. Oleta is mostly late nights with a few exceptions. Lisa is pretty rare but I have seen her. Hannah's whereabouts are completely unknown lately.

Make it rains seems to be getting more popular at Bandaids whatever that might mean. The girls always complain about guys not buying anything but it seems to me that Fridays have been a lot busier lately. It's nice to have that vibe back although it sucks when you're looking for a place to sit. By the way they've got a grill out on the patio and they're selling food again. Since it's out on the patio I guess you don't have to worry about the lame in and out policy they're still enforcing. A lot of nights there's a delivery guy who comes in selling cheap pizzas. Six dollar cover seems to start on Friday at 3 pm.

Higgs, I'm really curious about your female drama. Feel free to PM if you still want to share.

[Higgs Boson]

Recently I looked over at Estrella walking past and thought she looked really great from behind. She's a nice girl when you can catch her at the right time except she's usually in business mode. Still it's hard to disagree with some of the other comments.Yeah, when she wears those g-string thongs I get very tempted. Then I remember what I promised and that there are other dancers there who are a lot warmer and enjoy having their butts massaged and boobs gently handled.

Damn. I was going to spend most of this weekend enjoying live music but now I might have to spend some time at the strip clubs.

Higgs.

[DavePHX]

Hi-Liter Sat 4/2/16 Day about 3 PM.

Medium busy lots of room in parking lot.

This time to not just sit bored when not being approached by dancers after some observing brought my smart phone and when no dancers near me that were of interest I am always a few hundred e-mail messages behind to scan between by business and personal accounts. A guy near me also had his cell out so didn't feel too out of place. The light from the screen is very bright in a dark rook, I will remember to turn it down if I can find the setting next time. I have a large 6" Windows Nokia 1520 - I love windows phone vs prior android.

Finally approached by Veronica "wanta dance" but I had the need to comfort female flesh so had her sit with me and nice talk. Had worked at Centerfolds and recognized the problem of dancers often not working the floor but hanging out with other gals or just known good customers. Only about a 2 on my intimacy scale but nice women. Protected her breasts from being touched however.

LeAnn slim been in the business too long and went through the motions of a nice dance but not really a connection (looking away etc) She carries a while legal pad around with her. Something about studying when isn't dancing. 3 on my intimacy scale in dances but no real interconnection.

Uki? Japanese, older as worked in HI, and more recently Orange County area clubs. I mentioned I've been to some LA clubs but more out my City of Industry. She corrected guessed Pink Rhino and a few others. But its been about 10 years since I did strip clubs in LA. She comes to Hi-Liter for a few months. Be there trough April. Expressed an interest in working in Canada and I shared ideas. However, need a work visa to be hired by any of the clubs and they are now hard to get for dancers. Very nice on the dance. Good connection, wonderful soft breasts that liked to be massaged. 4+ on my intimacy scale.

Then the waitress came insisting on a one drink minimum. Since I was satisfied with the dancers met and wanted to head over to Bandaids I just told her I would leave instead of getting a drink after mentioning I had been doing quite a few dancers. She had asked if the glass on the table was mine. I was honest and said it wasn't.

On the out I had a nice long conversation with one of the nice bouncers. They are trying to get guys to at least have a drink instead of just not buying dancers or anything. He said he doesn't drink either and just orders a bottle of water and that should keep the hostess away. The are also aggressive picking up used bottles saying the are in short supply. Only have about 120 of them on the racks so often need to clean and re circulate them.

Bouncer mentioned how busy Friday afteroon and early eveneings are when often standing room only. Monday afternoon about the slowest time for customers. Next week many of the dancers don't want to work because some motorcycle group is rolling into down and often cause problems or have bad attitude.

[DavePHX]

Off to Bandaids about 5 PM Sat 4/2/16 Sat Afternoon.

Was fairly crowded, only a few good seats to be had. By the door into the dance area, I was greeting by holding my hand by Amanda sitting at the table next to the entry. Seemed friendly so danced. Larger than my ideal but nice soft breasts and good intimacy response 4+ on my intimacy scale.

Sitting next to Amanda was Happy who immediately came over after Amanda. My more ideal body type, Black with great slender body rated a 4 on my intimacy scale.

Latin kind of wild gal from prior trip remember I only would do 1 dance and not I the VIP. She insisted on the VIP but this time told me it would only cost me $10/ dance in the VIP. Ok, I have never been there before so in we went. Kind of nice couch seating not just chairs. But her dance was a 0 on my intimacy scale. Just the bouncing butt in breasts in face, trying to get into my pants but really not anything I was interested in and we just did 1 song for $10. Name something like Mammes? Couldn't understand.

Then of course Estrella who always know she can get one from me and I do like her body and 3+ or 4 on my intimacy scale. I have to remember she doesn't like the sometimes harder massage I do working on muscles many dances like, She needs soft since has sore muscles from working out and dancing.

A few others I would have danced with but didn't get their attention. Had an enjoyable afternoon for Old Dave that thrives on some female body contact every week or so. Still looking for other ways of doing more than just dancing but not so much the typical escort stuff.

[Newbie80]

I had some really bad luck at Bandaid's last night. Had a girl walk away from me because I didn't want to walk into the VIP with her. I ASKED one of the Cuban's for a dance, she started selling the VIP right away. I said no, I just want some regular dances, she disappeared into the dressing room after that. I walked out with a full wallet last night.

[Lyle416]

Went to hiliter on two consecutive days left unimpressed. Is the talent declining there?

[DrPoon]

Oh dang, I had a sugar baby a few years ago who used to work at Bandaids I remember picking her up from that parking lot but didn't go in there recently.

[MrSaxaphone]

Gentleman,

Great to see that my friends (Higgs and Dave) are actively posting on this site. I will not be out in AZ for a couple of weeks yet. I do agree that we posters have to be very careful giving out specific info about our strip club escapades. However, when I look at the Tucson site for clubs, I see quite a few "wild adventures" and "happy endings" at many of the clubs. Is this the norm for clubs in Tucson? What are "cabanas"? Just another name for VIP rooms? I'm very fussy about the dancers I'm attracted to. I need a quality young lady with a brain and a personality. So maybe that means I'm not much of a monger that will jump on just anything. So be it, that's me. No streetwalkers or back page ladies for me.

So, is it worth the drive down to Tucson? So far I'm happy with my time at Bourbon, HiLiter, and Desert Flame, and a few Saturday night tours with Higgs, Dave and Newbie. Please advise. BigTim.Wrong forum for to much on Tucson but I went down there about a month ago to Venom and came away very happy. Everything seems to be on the menu for day shift with the right girl.

[Higgs Boson]

(edit)I do agree that we posters have to be very careful giving out specific info about our strip club escapades. However, when I look at the Tucson site for clubs, I see quite a few "wild adventures" and "happy endings" at many of the clubs. Is this the norm for clubs in Tucson? What are "cabanas"? Just another name for VIP rooms? Edit.


So, is it worth the drive down to Tucson? So far I'm happy with my time at Bourbon, HiLiter, and Desert Flame, and a few Saturday night tours with Higgs, Dave and Newbie. Please advise. BigTim.Yes, I've noticed they don't hold a lot back in the Tucson report, especially for Venom.

As for whether it's worthwhile for a drive, I've been happy enough with the Phoenix area scene. If Phoenix was a strip club desert, I'd consider regular trips to Tucson. I wouldn't normally consider it a day trip because it's 2 - 3 hours away depending on your starting point. But I know someone who makes those sort of round trips between home and a strip club regularly in the wintry state of Minnesota.

Bigtim47, you and I share the same concerns about reporting SC details. I occasionally survey strip club reports in other cities and I read a report recently I just couldn't believe. The guy posted about visiting a club and a dancer called him out on a previous report of his. Turns out she had a SO and was afraid the first account might surface. I turned to the report she objected to and it contained details of a VIP encounter down to almost millimeter by millimeter dilation of body orifices. I had to admit it was hotter than anything that appeared in Penthouse Forum. So I returned to the recent report and, after the confrontation with the dancer about the first report, the two returned to the VIP on this second visit and he reports the same level of detail. Am I missing something here? Is this sociopathic or does the guy have total lack of empathy and awareness?

Within reason, I'm OK with sharing details of encounters with trusted peers via PM, but not openly posting them for reading by LE, SOs, etc. Dancers involved with the clubs here come from a variety of circumstances: single mothers, college students, office workers trying to supplement income, workers who are on or would be on minimum wage, those laid off from full-time or temporary jobs, and those who are trying to get back on their feet after a difficult situation. There are no affluent dancers in Phoenix.

I remember when I started going to clubs and naively thought Phoenix dancers made a bunch of money, figuring the possible number of songs in an hour multiplied by 10 bucks = Jackpot. Not at all. For starters, a lot of customers don't get dances, some of them only with certain dancers, and customers who get dances aren't continually getting dances. Not only that but the clubs want a piece of the action. We might complain about cover charges and drink prices but the dancers owe fees to the house as soon as they tell the management they're working a shift. Then a percentage of the dancer's dance income. The club isn't evil: the management has a place to maintain, employees, other costs, and ownership they're responsible to. Some clubs have modest fees but some expect payouts to multiple people at the club: security, DJ, bartender, etc. Etc. Dancers also make decisions: they're independent contractors and they can decide that certain clubs make them more comfortable, or uncomfortable, and decide to stay or try other places.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

I had an extra ticket for a music performance at the Rebel Lounge on Saturday and Newbie80 joined me. At the venue I stepped away to the bar for some, yes, beverages. Now, Newbie80 is a handsome guy, even though he doesn't think so. I returned to the table and was not too surprised to find that two young women had taken up positions right next to Newbie80. They introduced themselves and one of them announced she would be my date for the evening. In the words from a Paul Simon song, "who am I to blow against the wind?" But that's another story.

With the final notes of the headliner's encore fading in the speakers, Newbie80 and I were on the way to Bandaids.


I had some really bad luck at Bandaid's last night. Had a girl walk away from me because I didn't want to walk into the VIP with her. I ASKED one of the Cuban's for a dance, she started selling the VIP right away. I said no, I just want some regular dances, she disappeared into the dressing room after that. I walked out with a full wallet last night.Screw those b*tches! Well, figuratively. Did I say that? Hush my mouth. If that's the attitude they want to take, they don't deserve your money. Let them walk away. They're fools.

I had a better evening at Bandaids than Newbie80. Getting there late cut the number of choices in dancers but I had a good time. I flirted with Royalty but she had a bunch of guys expressing interest in her. Hanging out with my first drink, an interesting spinner walked by on the way to the DJ stage and we exchanged smiles. We were to meet later. I got dances with Envy and Desire (?). One of the two left her top on, saying it would come off in VIP. Thanks, I'm enjoying myself right here. It was very late, almost closing time when the smiling spinner walked up. Warm and inviting. Both of us. (grin) I believe she was latina, though we didn't discuss it. She spoke fluent but accented English and was very personable. And sexy. I believe her name was Lotus. That's what I think I heard over the music. The club closed just as we finished the fifth song but she was so nice I gave her something extra. No, not that. I paid her for six songs with my thanks. I hope I run into her again soon. I think she said she worked mostly on M - F.

Higgs.

[RZM1231]

Haven't had a chance to report on some of my visits to the clubs so here is the most recent one, Stop by Chicas on Sat, $6 for the cover $5 for drinks, the place was packed, didn't reply see why at the beginning since the only dancer I saw on the stage was a very heavy set girl, which is not my preference. Also no empty chairs at all, I was starting to think it was a mistake to come. One of the servers offer to find me a seat so I agreed since the bar has no place to sit. Then I see one gorgeous latina, a bit older but man she was built very well, long legs firm rear, and a pair of DDs not natural but man they were really nice, I would give her a 9 on my scale. She was very popular on the stage with lots of patrons tipping. To my surprise, nobody snatched her up when she got done. So I called her up to my table. Man. Every one was glaring at me. After a bit of chit chat we headed for the $10 dollar dances, and man I got some very good dances, she mentioned more could happen at the VIP, to which I agreed but before we could head over she got called onto the stage again. She promised she would come back but to my bad luck she got pulled by someone else as I was headed to the ATM to grab more cash, normally I don't do this as ATM's at these places have ridiculous fees, but she had me all worked up. At this point I decided to wait at the bar, then one of the servers asked me if I wanted another drink I already had 2 and didn't feel lime I needed another one, well he got pushy, he told me that I needed to order another drink. I though about it but since I saw that my dancer was on taking her time I decided to decline and leave. Maybe I missed out, but I'll sure come back and try again. I also saw another high 9 on the stage as well but was to preoccupied with the first one. She was also latina with thick legs great pair of Ds and a cute face, the reason I said she was a high 9 is that she was much younger then the other latina. Sorry I was unable to make out their names but I'll sure be back and find out.

Total damage with drinks, dances and cover was $56.

As far as my other visits, I'll just summarize:

Bandaids still decent and I've seen a cute cuban spinner who does great on the chair dances. Pretty bad English but it's a real issue for me as I also speak Spanish. Monica I thinks was her name. Will definitely come to see her again, I have seen Estrella before, she looks great but as the dances they are all business, and this DDs are so freaking hard. So I tend to pass on her, I would like to see if the cute blond waitress with the huge pair would dance. I would love to sees that pair. I keep noticing dancer just ignore the people who tip them. And the only ones that try to push the dances are the bigger dancers, sadly those are not to my liking.

Haven't been to BM in a while, as my favorite dancer Dulce only works day shifts and I can't make it then.

OK fellows that's all I got for now, stay safe.

[Danimal Forth]

I would like to see if the cute blond waitress with the huge pair would dance. I would love to sees that pair.I heard that she has danced a few times recently. Not sure when that was though.

[Higgs Boson]

I heard that she has danced a few times recently. Not sure when that was though.There have been times on Sunday and Monday nights when Bandaids has been so slow the servers get bored and have goofed around by getting up on the DJ stage. Seems to happen after one crowd departs late afternoon or early evening and before the later night crowd shows up after 9 PM. I don't think it's more than that.

Higgs.

[DkPersonal]

Gentleman,

Great to see that my friends (Higgs and Dave) are actively posting on this site. I will not be out in AZ for a couple of weeks yet. I do agree that we posters have to be very careful giving out specific info about our strip club escapades. However, when I look at the Tucson site for clubs, I see quite a few "wild adventures" and "happy endings" at many of the clubs. Is this the norm for clubs in Tucson? What are "cabanas"? Just another name for VIP rooms? I'm very fussy about the dancers I'm attracted to. I need a quality young lady with a brain and a personality. So maybe that means I'm not much of a monger that will jump on just anything. So be it, that's me. No streetwalkers or back page ladies for me.

So, is it worth the drive down to Tucson? So far I'm happy with my time at Bourbon, HiLiter, and Desert Flame, and a few Saturday night tours with Higgs, Dave and Newbie. Please advise. BigTim.You got it. The cabanas are basically a small closet space, maybe 6' x 6', with a chair and some curtains to hide what goes on inside. But no, I don't think it's worth the drive from Phoenix to Tucson because you really have to get lucky and find the right girl if you aren't a regular and know everyone. The girls at Venom on average are like 5's or 6's without the beer goggles and probably more like 4's if you could see them outside in the daylight.

[RZM1231]

There have been times on Sunday and Monday nights when Bandaids has been so slow the servers get bored and have goofed around by getting up on the DJ stage. Seems to happen after one crowd departs late afternoon or early evening and before the later night crowd shows up after 9 PM. I don't think it's more than that.

Higgs.Well that's a shame, that blond hottie has a delicious looking pair, I'm a sucker for big boob's, especially when they come with a petite frame and a cute face. That other brunette server is also really cute, those two are much hotter then about 50% of the dancers I've seen on bandaids. Oh well thanks for the info fellows.

[Higgs Boson]

Well that's a shame, that blond hottie has a delicious looking pair, I'm a sucker for big boob's, especially when they come with a petite frame and a cute face. That other brunette server is also really cute, those two are much hotter then about 50% of the dancers I've seen on bandaids. Oh well thanks for the info fellows.Yeah, there's a long history of people here lamenting about Bandaid servers not dancing. It seems to happen every time there's turnover in the servers.

For a real sight, catch security / door guy Rusty on the main stage. The good part: it's all in good fun. The non-so-good part: you can't unsee it. (grin).

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

Bones doesn't look any different from what I noticed on the outside. There is a passenger shuttle parked near the road with a banner that says they're opening soon. Continuing down Scottsdale Rd it looked like Dream Palace was deserted. People seem to talk about that place a lot when I'm around. Of course I advise not to go there.

I sat at T&A and watched two different guys sitting near me get in trouble with security for their hands roaming. Both got a warning they'd be gone if it happened again.

Several weeks ago I went in on an afternoon and thought all the five or six girls working looked great. But if you're hoping for any kind of personal connection it's not promising.

The grill at Bandaids is only on Friday and Saturday nights. Since I mentioned in last time I figured I should make the correction.

[Deboinair]

There have been times on Sunday and Monday nights when Bandaids has been so slow the servers get bored and have goofed around by getting up on the DJ stage. Seems to happen after one crowd departs late afternoon or early evening and before the later night crowd shows up after 9 PM. I don't think it's more than that.

Higgs.Waitresses definitely dance too. If they are working as a waitress they only do VIP only.

I saw this during the day. Not sure if it is at night too

[TylerPerelli]

Got a late start the other evening, yet was able to catch up with Higgs at Bandaids. He was kind enough to buy me a drink and even usher a couple smooth skinned ladies my way as we sat at the bar. They do scan the drivers license at entry and perform the standard pat down. Neither of which bother me. A dollar tip for the hostess and a free entry card from HiLiter avoided the cover charge.

My favorite gal in the place was one of the two bartenders. The grill on the patio smelled fabulous. The majority of the dancers did not fit my preferences, yet there were a couple cuties. The two Higgs introduced me to were cute and friendly and not expecting drinks or dances. A few dollars garnered a barstool dance or two. Didn't feel the need to go to the floor area for a true table dance. Saw the infamous Estrella on the bar stage. Remember years ago when she had a skinnier ass and had not yet enhanced the breasts. Found her more attractive then. Different strokes.

A young lady who has provided some high mileage dances at HiLiter strolled by. Stated she was just looking for a friend and appeared to be accompanied.

Was tempted to hit up Blue Moon, yet settled for a quick stop at HiLiter before calling it a night. They were fairly busy, with a variety of cute dancers. Was able to get a couple fairly good VIP dances despite the crowd and hovering manager.

Got digits for take out, yet not certain if bogus. Like the lotto, you can't win if you don't play. Happy mongering.

[Deboinair]

I had some really bad luck at Bandaid's last night. Had a girl walk away from me because I didn't want to walk into the VIP with her. I ASKED one of the Cuban's for a dance, she started selling the VIP right away. I said no, I just want some regular dances, she disappeared into the dressing room after that. I walked out with a full wallet last night.You guys are going to learn about the Cuban dancers. I'm very disappointed so many are coming here. I asked another girl about why they are popping up. She said they are sneaking in through Mexico. Smh.

[Deboinair]

Well that's a shame, that blond hottie has a delicious looking pair, I'm a sucker for big boob's, especially when they come with a petite frame and a cute face. That other brunette server is also really cute, those two are much hotter then about 50% of the dancers I've seen on bandaids. Oh well thanks for the info fellows.No she dances also. I forget her name. Taylor dances too. She is the other cute waitress. I've seen them both dance. As far as when they are waitressing, The deal is if it is slow, they can dance EVEN if they are waitressing. But they will only do VIP. I've seen this during the day early evening. I doubt this happens at night.

[Deboinair]

It such a rarity that I go to strip clubs at night. My friends literally had to drag me to go. There is something about paying cover that really pisses me off. LOL That could be going to my drinks. Never the less I stopped being a cheap bastard and went to watch the fight at Bandaids. No seat in sight. They had the sound on for the fight also which was amazing.

After the fight was over the music played and I couldn't believe how many good looking girls were there. I thought I was in a different place. LOL The drink specials had me a bit tipsy so I don't remember their name. There were three light skin black girls there that were sexy. One Dominican one. Then this beautiful Afghan dancer. I really thought I was in Miami seeing her. Just beautiful. Does anybody know her name. So slim. Such a fat perfect ass. I think maybe it was because of the fight all these women were there. I could be wrong because I don't go at night.

[EbonyLvver]

So I left the phoenix area, but was back in town for business. I have been doing some research and found alot of locals seem to be avoid BM. This is a sorta surprise to me. 5 years ago it was a fun club to go to, but now I'm not so sure. I walked in and saw new chairs which was a nice upgrade. It always takes a few minutes for your eyes to adjust when you walk into this club. The girls don't seem as friendly as I remember. To make a long story short I left rather disappointed and I'm not sure if I will be going back. The girls used to be rather aggressive to the point where it could get annoying, but the girls I got dances from where kinda boring. Perhaps I need to get more dances or maybe perhaps I went on a slow day. I think ill let this club go. Also noticed no more paper towels where out. I long for the old days of LULU, Kiwi and rhonda. Ah well next time I know.

[Ognib]

I am visiting from out of town and have searched the forums and not seen anything on The Candy Store. This is probably the closest establishment to where I am. Any recommendations?

[ThayGor]

I am visiting from out of town and have searched the forums and not seen anything on The Candy Store. This is probably the closest establishment to where I am. Any recommendations?I recommend going a little further to find a friendlier place. Been there twice and all the girls were sour patch, nothing sweet. They may look nice but had a horrible personality set. This was years ago so it may have changed.

[Ognib]

I recommend going a little further to find a friendlier place. Been there twice and all the girls were sour patch, nothing sweet. They may look nice but had a horrible personality set. This was years ago so it may have changed.Hey, thanks for the reply! Maybe I should do a little more sniffing around.

[Dsprdo]

Any of you guys know of a dancer named Fallon? White, early 20's, Bleach blond hair with black streaks? Saw an interesting video of her on BRCC and would like to see her in person. Any info on where she might work would be appreciated.

[Higgs Boson]

I am visiting from out of town and have searched the forums and not seen anything on The Candy Store. This is probably the closest establishment to where I am. Any recommendations?I'm with ThayGor. Not recommended, better places exist in the Valley. That being said, if it's convenient to where you are, it wouldn't hurt to stop by and take a look. I haven't been there for maybe 18-24 months and maybe you'll discover something or someone interesting.

My biased opinion on the Candy Store: a great place for low mileage dances if you like tattooed biker chicks with fake boobs, and don't mind the hovering security guy who's in your face if your hands touch any part of the dancer.

On the plus side, it's in a safe neighborhood and not a dump. When there's a cover charge, it's reasonable as are the drink prices. Some people say the bar area has a neighborhood sports bar feel and I agree. If I lived in the area, it might be a decent place to hang out. I had a single good dancer experience. Good enough that, a year later, I remembered which nights she worked and made a return visit.

Tyler has reported some positive things on the Candy Store in this forum.

If you live in the vicinity of of the Candy Store, another alternative is Bliss Show Club. It's on Deer Valley Road near 19th Ave. I've had better experiences there but my favorite clubs are elsewhere.

Higgs.

[DavePHX]

Blue Moon owner's son still at large after escaped work furlough featured 4/15/2916 "Fugitive Friday" on ABC15:

http://www.abc15.com/news/crime/fugitive-friday-business-owner-who-hired-teen-girls-for-sex-escapes-from-work-furlogh

2015 escape and article mentioning son of Blue Moon Owner:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/breaking/2015/10/29/silent-witness-searching-jail-escapee-tent-city/74831846/

Original 2014 article.

http://archive.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/20140107phoenix-strip-club-owner-child-prostitution-abrk.html

[Higgs Boson]

It such a rarity that I go to strip clubs at night. My friends literally had to drag me to go. There is something about paying cover that really pisses me off. LOL That could be going to my drinks. Never the less I stopped being a cheap bastard and went to watch the fight at Bandaids. No seat in sight. They had the sound on for the fight also which was amazing.We may have rubbed shoulders in the crowd. Yeah, it's usually a good turnout for the PPV boxing and MMA / UFC events, especially for highly anticipated matchups. Bandaids halts all DJ activities during the leadup and main events. If it's crowded customers will sit on the stages.


After the fight was over the music played and I couldn't believe how many good looking girls were there. I thought I was in a different place. LOL The drink specials had me a bit tipsy so I don't remember their name.Yeah, those you-call-its for those first 3 songs were very popular.


There were three light skin black girls there that were sexy. One Dominican one. Then this beautiful Afghan dancer. I really thought I was in Miami seeing her. Just beautiful. Does anybody know her name. So slim. Such a fat perfect ass. I think maybe it was because of the fight all these women were there. I could be wrong because I don't go at night.Those light skinned black dancers likely included Envy and Desire. Plus maybe Charisma. Not sure about the Afghan.

Fight nights are a mixed blessing. Lots of customers at the conclusion of the fights. After the fights the crowd can just dissipate or, as on that night, many stick around. Unfortunately, as Estrella lamented with me, a lot of guys were there to party and not getting many dances.

Higgs.

Support your favorite dancers.

[Ass Man69]

So I left the phoenix area, but was back in town for business. I have been doing some research and found alot of locals seem to be avoid BM. This is a sorta surprise to me. 5 years ago it was a fun club to go to, but now I'm not so sure. I walked in and saw new chairs which was a nice upgrade. It always takes a few minutes for your eyes to adjust when you walk into this club. The girls don't seem as friendly as I remember. To make a long story short I left rather disappointed and I'm not sure if I will be going back. The girls used to be rather aggressive to the point where it could get annoying, but the girls I got dances from where kinda boring. Perhaps I need to get more dances or maybe perhaps I went on a slow day. I think ill let this club go. Also noticed no more paper towels where out. I long for the old days of LULU, Kiwi and rhonda. Ah well next time I know.Thats a bummer to hear. It's usually my goto place when I'm in town. I'm out there next week on business and was going to give it a visit. May look elsewhere now.

You go during the day or night?

[Deboinair]

We may have rubbed shoulders in the crowd. Yeah, it's usually a good turnout for the PPV boxing and MMA / UFC events, especially for highly anticipated matchups. Bandaids halts all DJ activities during the leadup and main events. If it's crowded customers will sit on the stages.

Yeah, those you-call-its for those first 3 songs were very popular.

Those light skinned black dancers likely included Envy and Desire. Plus maybe Charisma. Not sure about the Afghan.

Fight nights are a mixed blessing. Lots of customers at the conclusion of the fights. After the fights the crowd can just dissipate or, as on that night, many stick around. Unfortunately, as Estrella lamented with me, a lot of guys were there to party and not getting many dances.

Higgs.

Support your favorite dancers.Maybe I spoke to you and we didn't know each other from the board. LOL Those light skin black girls had me like whoa. So sexy. The Afghan I remember had on all black. I think I may go tomorrow to find her.

[Ognib]

So I went ahead and went last night. I didn't think it was too bad at all. Decent crowd was there, most of the girls were 7/8 range-a few higher, none lower. But I also know that is subjective. Had.

2 VIP dances, the first was an 8 with big fake boobs. Dance was ok but it was the same pattern over and over-very mechanical. The 2nd was with a cutie that knew how to get a guy revved up.

She was fun. Tried to get a 3rd back there but she said she didn't do VIP's. Interesting. $5 to get in, drinks were cheap for a strip club, table dances were $10.

Cost $20 just to go back to VIP then $20 a dance. The bouncer wasn't in anyone's face. I left around 9 and it seemed to be shift change.

It would have been interesting to see what the late night dancers were like but this 3 hr time change is still working on me. I would go back, but then again it is the.

One I have checked out.

[Higgs Boson]

Saw a band perform Friday of last week and the plan was to meet one of my favs at Bandaids after the performance. Arrived at Bandaids before my favorite dancers. I was sitting at the bar and a nearby dancer indicated the dancer on the Bar Stage and said "She's Cuban".


You guys are going to learn about the Cuban dancers. I'm very disappointed so many are coming here. I asked another girl about why they are popping up. She said they are sneaking in through Mexico. Smh.Well, it was time for me to learn about Cuban dancers. Or, at least this one. She was light complexioned and african descent, short, HWP but not skinny. The yellow thong accentuated the curve of her butt as she danced on stage. I think she may have picked up on my admiring glances. Can't remember if I tipped her on stage, but probably did. A little later I went into the lounge to get dances with one of my favs and I noticed the Cuban took up station a couple chairs away. My fav and I finished up and walked back into the bar area and who was right behind me but this little cute Cuban. We greeted each other En Espanol. Ah, this is when the old high school and college Spanish really pays off. Como se llama? Kathy, she said. She asked me in Spanish if I'd like to get a dance. I gently turned down the suggestion of VIP, the only English word I heard her say, and we settled into one of the lounge spots. My experience: nice. What a pretty body with a rounded butt and nicely shaped A / be breasts. She has a friendly attitude too. No complaints here on the cuatro dances we had. I definitely would like to meet her again. Perhaps I was lucky and met the one Cuban who was nice.


Got a late start the other evening, yet was able to catch up with Higgs at Bandaids. He was kind enough to buy me a drink and even usher a couple smooth skinned ladies my way as we sat at the bar.(edit) The two Higgs introduced me to were cute and friendly and not expecting drinks or dances.Got a message from Tyler asking about BigTim47 and I invited him to join me at the club. It was fun to get caught up on things. A couple of my favorite dancers dropped by as we talked. Not only are they alluring but they have great personalities.

Saturday night was fight night at Bandaids and reported upon.

Took off Sunday from the clubs. I've done my part (grin).

Monday I met a couple of my favs at Bandaids. Just the usual great time.

Tuesday was very quiet at Bandaids. I was there because one of my favorite dancers said she was going to be there. We hung out together. Then, perhaps around Midnight a group of the female bartenders in their civvy clothes showed up after partying elsewhere. Someone's birthday?


My favorite gal in the place was one of the two bartenders. Well, Tyler she was there Tuesday night in her party clothes. She and the other off-duty bartenders were on the Bar Stage hanging on the pole. Then they moved over to the DJ stage.

Met one of my favs last night. Usual great time.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

How could I have left out the best parts of my Bandaids synopsis? I must have been completely worn out. It was a big week supporting our local dancers.

Surely I'm headed for a fiery end and it's a hell of a ride.

So, there I was at the bar at Bandaids and two of my fav dancers are in attendance that night but are busy elsewhere. Then I hear a voice nearby that says this:

"Well, take HIM to the VIP. " I look over and someone associated with the bar is pointing at me while talking to a woman at the bar.

Me: "Whaa?

So, I get taken to the VIP area on someone else's dollar. Several dollars actually. This is officially my first visit to the Bandaids VIP, so I can no longer claim to be too proud to have never entered its daunting maw. Interestingly, one of my favs is back there and she actually counts how many dances I receive from this other person. The dances themselves are, meh, so-so at best. I attribute this to the personality of the provider, her incentive in getting it done as soon as possible, and actually short-changing me. That last part, is according to the fav who did the counting from several chairs away. Frankly, I didn't mind too much since I wasn't paying for it and the provider didn't excite me anyway despite her physical qualities. I was VERY flattered that the payer thought of me and grateful for that. See, it doesn't hurt to be a nice guy.

To continue down the road to perdition.

I'm hanging out at the bar and the two favs in attendance are hanging all over me. I'm getting weaker by the minute and one of them suggests a threesome. She has been hinting about this for a while after it became clear I liked both of them. It took me all of two seconds to agree and led them through the lounge back to the VIP. I think they were thinking regular lounge dances but something in my head just took me through the VIP entry. I guess it was in for a penny, in for a dollar, but I think I also wanted to show them I appreciated them and they were better than the phony who had me back there earlier. They weren't expecting it and I just went with it. So, there I was in the VIP with two hot women, with skin tones at the two extremes of the spectrum, at the same time. They looked fanstastic and they felt fantastic. You should have seen the faces of the guys passing by. Nothing particularly naughty to report but it was a really nice experience.

Finally, one night I arrived before any of my fav dancers, barely got my drink, (cough), I mean beverage, and was over by the DJ stage and a thick (not fat), nice figured white dancer took that stage. She looked familiar. She said she knew me and that she was back after four years. As soon as I heard her voice, I recognized her. Distinctive and nice voice. Well, she came looking for me after she got off the main stage. She seductively made it very clear that we needed to get dances NOW. How did she know that grabbing a handful of the hair at the back of my head is a big weakness for me? I obediently followed her to the lounge and I'm thinking: maybe we should talk about a safe word. Anyway, she pulled out all the stops and reminded me of the thrills she gave me before she disappeared. I'm getting a stiffy as I key this.

So, here I am at home. My absolute fav couldn't go to the club last night or tonight, so I made non-SC plans.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

So I went ahead and went last night. I didn't think it was too bad at all. Decent crowd was there, most of the girls were 7/8 range-a few higher, none lower. (edit)I'm glad you went. It's great to get another perspective, especially since I haven't been there in ages.


The bouncer wasn't in anyone's face. I left around 9 and it seemed to be shift change.(edit)I'm a little surprised. On my last evening visit or two, the security guy was poking my shoulder if I touched the dancer's hips. Since then, the Hi Liter was checked not long ago by the authorities for dancing violations and I heard the reaction at the Candy Store was maybe a little extreme or paranoid. I'm glad it worked for you.


It would have been interesting to see what the late night dancers were like but this 3 hr time change is still working on me. I would go back, but then again it is the one I have checked out.I hear you on the 3 hour time difference. Traveling east, I used to resent breakfast meetings. The 7 AM EDT meeting was 4 AM Arizona (MST) time and for me it meant getting a cup of coffee at 3 AM MST just so I could function enough to get to the meeting.

I hope you're able to check out the CS again and / or check out some of our other lovely clubs here in the Grand Canyon State.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

Had a visit to Jags again on Sunday night. Keep seeing the same door girl on the busy nights. She is incredibly hot but, not surprisingly, not so friendly. Oh well.

I didn't see any of the girls I've mentioned before. There was one black girl named Naomi recently moved from New Orleans who had been there on a previous afternoon visit. She spent some time chatting so I was willing to buy a dance and I did another one this time the same way. After chatting with another guy I've seen there before, there won't be any dances for her again though. She refused to break his $20 for a single dance and kept the change so she "could be sure he wanted a dance later". He did eventually get her to return for the second dance but that doesn't make up for the attitude.

On a side note they had high tables and chairs over against the back wall. No idea if those are going to be permanent.

[Deboinair]

Saw a band perform Friday of last week and the plan was to meet one of my favs at Bandaids after the performance. Arrived at Bandaids before my favorite dancers. I was sitting at the bar and a nearby dancer indicated the dancer on the Bar Stage and said "She's Cuban".

Well, it was time for me to learn about Cuban dancers. Or, at least this one. She was light complexioned and african descent, short, HWP but not skinny. The yellow thong accentuated the curve of her butt as she danced on stage. I think she may have picked up on my admiring glances. Can't remember if I tipped her on stage, but probably did. A little later I went into the lounge to get dances with one of my favs and I noticed the Cuban took up station a couple chairs away. My fav and I finished up and walked back into the bar area and who was right behind me but this little cute Cuban. We greeted each other En Espanol. Ah, this is when the old high school and college Spanish really pays off. Como se llama? Kathy, she said. She asked me in Spanish if I'd like to get a dance. I gently turned down the suggestion of VIP, the only English word I heard her say, and we settled into one of the lounge spots. My experience: nice. What a pretty body with a rounded butt and nicely shaped A / be breasts. She has a friendly attitude too. No complaints here on the cuatro dances we had. I definitely would like to meet her again. Perhaps I was lucky and met the one Cuban who was nice.

Got a message from Tyler asking about BigTim47 and I invited him to join me at the club. It was fun to get caught up on things. A couple of my favorite dancers dropped by as we talked. Not only are they alluring but they have great personalities.

Saturday night was fight night at Bandaids and reported upon.



Higgs.Well I was referring to Cuban like Monica (white color) at Bandaids. Don't think I saw any rave reviews about her on here. She looked pretty pissed off the fight night at Bandaids. Guess she shouldn't sucker anybody. The Cuban mulatto / African descent are a rarity in the states. I believe I maybe met three total in my lifetime living in Miami. Miami is basically Cuba extension BTW.

[Danimal Forth]

Headed up Scottsdale Road last night on other business when I saw that Bones was open along with searchlight fanfare. I figured they might be giving free cover on this grand-opening Thursday night so I decided to pop in on my way back the other direction.

It was about 9:30 pm and it looked like it was fairly full in the back from what I could tell. Pulling into the lot a young guy ran across to meet me. Apparently all the parking is valet and that part was going be $10. He didn't know how much the cover was going to be so he had to ask the guy at the door. Answer: $20 for men / $10 for ladies.

My curiosity wasn't strong enough for $30.

[Higgs Boson]

Well I was referring to Cuban like Monica (white color) at Bandaids. Don't think I saw any rave reviews about her on here. She looked pretty pissed off the fight night at Bandaids. Guess she shouldn't sucker anybody. The Cuban mulatto / African descent are a rarity in the states. I believe I maybe met three total in my lifetime living in Miami. Miami is basically Cuba extension BTW.I understand. Yeah, I don't think Monica was very happy that night. Most of the experienced dancers at Bandaids know it can go either way when there's PPV fights.

I was at Bandaids Tuesday night about 9 PM to meet one of my faves but snuck in some dances with Kathy (nice enough) and the rest of the latinas were hanging around the lounge. Not many customers. At least one latina seemed to resent Kathi getting some business.

Also there was a very hot (to me) black dancer on her first day at Bandiads. Nice butt, HWP, a decent attitude and, as I was soon to find out, nicely shaped Bcups. Her name was Nairobi. We looked for a suitable place in the lounge for a dance but existing customers took up almost all the wall seating though they weren't getting dances. We tried to squeeze into a tight spot along the wall but it was a disaster. She offered to do dances in the VIP area at the same rate. Normally I hesitate at such an offer because there's a possibility for misunderstanding and said so. She assured me she wouldn't charge me the VIP rate and back we went. She was good to her word. Though the dances weren't super spectacular they were very nice and she has a face and body that really appeal to me. In fact, she got called to the stage as she finished dance #5 and I told her thank you very much and paid her for 6 dances. Recommended and I hope I see her again soon.

Leading up to the set of dances, Nairobi said she last worked at Xecutive. Seems that club is going through some changes and trying to up its image. There may be a name change but I didn't catch it. Seems that club is or was having auditions. Nairobi said they're looking for "model types", and either she didn't bother to audition or wasn't invited to audition. She didn't define what she meant by "model types". I think that could be very subjective. Frankly, I'd take Nairobi any day (or night) of the week, but if she thinks she doesn't measure up, I'm not sure what this might mean. I think Newbie80 and I need to check it out in the near future. He loved the women there on our last visit. But, if the definition of "model type" means skinny, he's not going to be very happy about it.

Tangent: if the rejuvenated Xecutive doesn't get the customers and those customers don't make it rain heavily, those "model types" aren't going to stay. Maybe Xecutive is trying to get customers that used to frequent the Pink Rhino. I've never seen Xecutive even half full. It should be interesting. Close Tangent.

At Bandaids the first of my faves eventually showed up and, after some flirting, we got some dances in the lounge. Soon after my second fave showed up. More fun ensued.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

(edit)There was one black girl named Naomi recently moved from New Orleans who had been there on a previous afternoon visit. (edit) After chatting with another guy I've seen there before, there won't be any dances for her again though. She refused to break his $20 for a single dance and kept the change so she "could be sure he wanted a dance later" (edit).I never hand a dancer money and expect change back. I've seen a couple of sweethearts at Bandaids run off to get change but you never know when you might meet a new dancer with a bad customer service attitude. I always make sure I can escape a poor or bad dance experience with only one song and I keep a 10 spot or a couple of fives available just for that rare occasion. You describe a dancer I want to avoid.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

Nairobi said she last worked at Xecutive. Seems that club is going through some changes and trying to up its image. There may be a name change but I didn't catch it. I think Xecutive has a location problem. Since I've never been I can't say much though.

Anyway, I heard about the name change from a dancer who just left there. She didn't mention a reason for leaving but now it makes more sense why I've seen a few of these ex-Xec-dancers lately. She told me the new name and I completely forget what it was.

[Danimal Forth]

I never hand a dancer money and expect change back. I've seen a couple of sweethearts at Bandaids run off to get change but you never know when you might meet a new dancer with a bad customer service attitude. I always make sure I can escape a poor or bad dance experience with only one song and I keep a 10 spot or a couple of fives available just for that rare occasion.I agree with that thinking for the most part. Asking for change can be awkward. In an upscale place like Jags it's worse where cash is expected to flow freely.

Many girls don't expect to sell multiples so they often give you an easy window to cut them off. While that might be a mistake on their part I would argue that breaking a twenty is no big deal most of the time unless the lady just started and doesn't have it on her yet.

On the other hand I can easily imagine a guy using this as a psychological tactic to establish dominance. This is also the opportunity to flash cash and break a large bill, if that's your objective.

As for me I usually don't care what the dancer will think of me if this is a problem. Having her see me as cheap might work to keep her from bothering me again. I've also done this deliberately as a test to gauge her attitude. And I've warned a roaming dancer in advance that I only want one and I'll be needing change. That might happen when I'm waiting for a lady to come back to me from the stage for instance.

I usually get my dances in pairs too although with one of my preferred ladies it seems to fall out in units of five. Still, in a club where guys fill up the wall seats but don't buy they're going to see you as the guy who's spending even if it's only one dance at a time for five different dancers. On slow nights the girls will be very grateful for just a single dance regardless of the currency exchanged.

[Deboinair]

I understand. Yeah, I don't think Monica was very happy that night. Most of the experienced dancers at Bandaids know it can go either way when there's PPV fights.

I was at Bandaids Tuesday night about 9 PM to meet one of my faves but snuck in some dances with Kathy (nice enough) and the rest of the latinas were hanging around the lounge. Not many customers. At least one latina seemed to resent Kathi getting some business.

Also there was a very hot (to me) black dancer on her first day at Bandiads. Nice butt, HWP, a decent attitude and, as I was soon to find out, nicely shaped Bcups. Her name was Nairobi. We looked for a suitable place in the lounge for a dance but existing customers took up almost all the wall seating though they weren't getting dances. We tried to squeeze into a tight spot along the wall but it was a disaster. She offered to do dances in the VIP area at the same rate. Normally I hesitate at such an offer because there's a possibility for misunderstanding and said so. She assured me she wouldn't charge me the VIP rate and back we went. She was good to her word. Though the dances weren't super spectacular they were very nice and she has a face and body that really appeal to me. In fact, she got called to the stage as she finished dance #5 and I told her thank you very much and paid her for 6 dances. Recommended and I hope I see her again soon.

Leading up to the set of dances, Nairobi said she last worked at Xecutive. Seems that club is going through some changes and trying to up its image. There may be a name change but I didn't catch it. Seems that club is or was having auditions. Nairobi said they're looking for "model types", and either she didn't bother to audition or wasn't invited to audition. She didn't define what she meant by "model types". I think that could be very subjective. Frankly, I'd take Nairobi any day (or night) of the week, but if she thinks she doesn't measure up, I'm not sure what this might mean. I think Newbie80 and I need to check it out in the near future. He loved the women there on our last visit. But, if the definition of "model type" means skinny, he's not going to be very happy about it.

Tangent: if the rejuvenated Xecutive doesn't get the customers and those customers don't make it rain heavily, those "model types" aren't going to stay. Maybe Xecutive is trying to get customers that used to frequent the Pink Rhino. I've never seen Xecutive even half full. It should be interesting. Close Tangent.

At Bandaids the first of my faves eventually showed up and, after some flirting, we got some dances in the lounge. Soon after my second fave showed up. More fun ensued.

Higgs.I have never been to Xecutive. Is it like in Tempe or something? Never heard anything good about it. When I lived in Scottsdale, I loved Pink Rhino on Wednesday night. $1 drinks were so fun and it was a really good crowd and pretty women. I typically don't like the make it rain clubs, but I was treated very well there. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Xecutive supposed to be Vlive some big time club from Houston now?

[Deboinair]

I think Xecutive has a location problem. Since I've never been I can't say much though.

Anyway, I heard about the name change from a dancer who just left there. She didn't mention a reason for leaving but now it makes more sense why I've seen a few of these ex-Xec-dancers lately. She told me the new name and I completely forget what it was.I feel the same way about Dirty's, Essex, and Exotica. Could possible be better if in a different location. Seems like alot of very low class clientele and strippers at these locations. It's a shame because Dirty's is designed very nice. Not sure if I will check out Xecutive or Vlive unless I'm in the area.

On a side note. Jags really disappointed me by taking away the seats against the VIP. They replaced them with high top tables. Smh.

Edit. Just saw your other post of you talking about the tables. That really sucks. It's like forcing you to get closer. Here is an idea though. Always get change from the bartender when you get a drink. Once you give them the tip for a drink, they will be more than willing to give you $10. I'm not much of a dancer type guy, but I always keep $10's. I don't agree with them not making change, but to avoid all of that. I keep broken change. What if the dancer is so horrible(had this happen to me) and you don't have change? In my case I had a $10 and she tried to be slick and keep dancing and I asked her to stop. She got an attitude. I just laughed. I don't like slick strippers. Respect the game.

[Dick North]

Yep, I made an annual visit yesterday early afternoon.

Entry is 5 dollars.

I first noticed that they moved the nude babe statue from the first alcove to the side. She was replaced by the Roman soldier bust. Or am I wrong about that? Anyway, I sat down and noticed that the entire south end of the area is curtained off. The place was pretty empty. After a short while, a waitress appeared and asked for my drink order.

I asked where Jennifer was (the prior VIP hostess) and was told that she left last June. There were maybe 4 dancers that I saw in the room. Most were the usual Christies dancers. White-blonde etc.

Eventually a dancer approached me and we ended up having a very nice conversation about strip clubs. She has been there over 10 years. She confirmed that Christies management does not like black girls unless they are light skin. Same with latinas.

Asian girls are ok. Bottom line. The place is still a waste of time for serious mongers.

They are about to waste more $ bringing the south end of the building to match the level of the main floor.

Why? One should ask.

DN.

[Danimal Forth]

I have never been to Xecutive. Is it like in Tempe or something? ... Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Xecutive supposed to be Vlive some big time club from Houston now?South side of the airport. University and 36th St or something. And yeah, that's the one I heard, the franchise club thing. Pretty sure Houston was the first city she mentioned.

[Deboinair]

Yep, I made an annual visit yesterday early afternoon.

Entry is 5 dollars.

I first noticed that they moved the nude babe statue from the first alcove to the side. She was replaced by the Roman soldier bust. Or am I wrong about that? Anyway, I sat down and noticed that the entire south end of the area is curtained off. The place was pretty empty. After a short while, a waitress appeared and asked for my drink order.

I asked where Jennifer was (the prior VIP hostess) and was told that she left last June. There were maybe 4 dancers that I saw in the room. Most were the usual Christies dancers. White-blonde etc.

Eventually a dancer approached me and we ended up having a very nice conversation about strip clubs. She has been there over 10 years. She confirmed that Christies management does not like black girls unless they are light skin. Same with latinas.

Asian girls are ok. Bottom line. The place is still a waste of time for serious mongers.

They are about to waste more $ bringing the south end of the building to match the level of the main floor.

Why? One should ask.

DN.Plenty clubs operate stupidly with the types of dancers they choose. I've never been, but I haven't heard anything great this place. Just some background info you can clear up for me. There are three Christie's and did 1 or 2 close down? Is this place equivalent to like a Scottsdale club in the sense of dancers and less activity?

[Deboinair]

I understand. Yeah, I don't think Monica was very happy that night.I think I may have found the mulatto Cubana you are talking about. Is her name Chanel? Nice and soooo slim, with a phat booty. Wow. She is like night and compared to Monica. I spoke to her at the bar (mostly in Spanish), but the little English she knows is very clear. Very pleasant. We talked about Miami and she said she went there and was like no thanks. Too many Monica type Cubans. ha ha.

I'm trying to figure out why bandaids is getting so many good looking women lately. It's weird. The day time this Sunday was the best I've ever seen it. While Centerfolds has the same ol girls. Bandaids is rotating in new ones. Crazy.

[Higgs Boson]

Plenty clubs operate stupidly with the types of dancers they choose. I've never been, but I haven't heard anything great this place. Just some background info you can clear up for me. There are three Christie's and did 1 or 2 close down? Is this place equivalent to like a Scottsdale club in the sense of dancers and less activity?The "original" Christies' was a Tiffany's, a then new club that opened on 32 the Street south of Van Buren in the early 90's. Big grand opening, I even met a NYC dancer who said she was flown in just for the occasion. The Christies organization took it over and then built another club on Baseline. We often refer to it as being in Tempe but it is actually in Guadalupe, Baseline being the boundary between the two.

As for the inside of the Baseline club and the 32nd Street clubs, imagine the most lavish interiors with statuary, generally dark, my memory says potted plants. Very high ceilings which look even higher because of the dim lighting. We're not talking tacky disco balls here. The dancers are typically dressed in long gowns. At the 32nd Street location, there is a wide staircase that descends upon the main stage from the upper floor and a dancer taking the stage does down the stairs and is met near the bottom by a dancer who is being replaced. The new dancer is extended a helping hand and is typically twirled by the dancer onstage (do they still do that? So we're talking about an attempt at a classy strip club. Imagine the most pretentious setup, most opulent decoration without being tacky, and very corny presentation of the dancers. As I said in a previous post, the Christies' clubs are a perfect place to bring someone from the upper echelons of a organization. It's safe but boring and there are no other clubs like these two.

You really have to go at least once to see these places. Then next time you can go someplace that is actually fun.

Going back perhaps 4 or 5 years ago, those two Christies' clubs were worth an occasional visit. I have some fond mammaries, I mean, memories of getting some passionate dances in the far corner of the club, on the opposite end of the club from the bar. I seem to remember running into Dave once or twice in that general vicinity. As DN alluded to, there is a sunken section, quite unique, that also has one or two smaller stages and a bar (now no longer used, if it ever was). I had a couple of nice interactions down there too.

About 3 years ago there was a management shakeup at the 32nd Street Christies' and the fun ended. The security guy / s watch like hawks and warn any dancers who give any thrills. I think the plan is to drive customers to the upstairs VIP area where they can be soaked for additional charges for drinks. As related in other posts, desirable dancers were driven out. Not sure who's really left worth recommending.

Perhaps a couple of years ago the Christies organization bought the strip club Pink in Glendale at the intersection of 67th Ave, Northern Ave, and Grand Ave. In November the dancers there were told the club was going to close for remodeling. It has not reopened. IMO, the place needs to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch. It is / was one of the strangest interior arrangements I have ever seen in a strip club. It included private / champagne rooms upstairs each with stripper poles, a gallery / balcony that overlooked the main floor, VIP spaces on the main floor, couch and table dances on the main floor. The interior design was probably based on the wet dreams of some realtor. Though the building was completed well before the housing bubble commenced, the housing industry was fairly robust at that time. Someone thought they were going to make a pile of money from all the building trade workers. With the collapse of the housing bubble, the club was left high and dry in one of the poorest areas of the West Valley.

Higgs.

[NatibusVenator]

SO work will require me to spend the next couple of weeks up north in the greater Phoenix area. Having looked through the thread at length, I really haven't deduced a club in "Phoenix" that has a fair certainty of playtime being available. So I make inquiry to my northern monger brethren; is there a club up in Phoenix where a patron can partake of all a dancers charms?

[Higgs Boson]

Yep, I made an annual visit yesterday early afternoon.

(edit) The place is still a waste of time for serious mongers.Thanks, DN. I appreciate the sacrifice of time you made with this visit. I'll use the time I would have used for Christies' to check out this VLive phenonemon or especially the former Xecutive dancers as they line up at Bandaids and other establishments.


They are about to waste more $ bringing the south end of the building to match the level of the main floor. Why? One should ask.Really. It's not as if customers are crowding into the rest of the place. There were plenty of empty seats and tables when I dragged Newbie80 over there for a porn star show (disappointing). Most the area around the sunken area was roped off. I'm guessing that was done to make it easier to monitor dancers and chastise them if they actually gave a decent lapdance. It does seem like a big waste of money to fill in that sunken area.

Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

SO work will require me to spend the next couple of weeks up north in the greater Phoenix area. Having looked through the thread at length, I really haven't deduced a club in "Phoenix" that has a fair certainty of playtime being available. So I make inquiry to my northern monger brethren; is there a club up in Phoenix where a patron can partake of all a dancers charms?Just as in your home playground, it depends a lot on the dancer and the club. Also, we have a very conservative environment. Phoenix ordinances have lots of restrictions and detail about what can't be done. Despite this, Phoenix seems to have adopted an attitude in the last 10 years or so that it has more important things to do than check on who's getting hard-ons in the strip clubs. Even so, most here understand that LE reads these pages and will not provide graphic detail identifying individual dancers except within the PM arena.

That said, my initial recommendation is to explore the clubs that are fairly lenient in touching. We had a similar inquiry last November and this is what I wrote:


A similar question was posed by Jammer27 on 2/18/15. Eventually a few of us got to the question a week later, 2/25/15. Go back to that date in the forum to get some opinions. IMO, Hambone78 had the most useful post on the subject. I took the opposite approach, which clubs to avoid.
Higgs.

[Higgs Boson]

I think I may have found the mulatto Cubana you are talking about. Is her name Chanel? Nice and soooo slim, with a phat booty. Wow. She is like night and compared to Monica. I spoke to her at the bar (mostly in Spanish), but the little English she knows is very clear. Very pleasant. We talked about Miami and she said she went there and was like no thanks. Too many Monica type Cubans. ha ha.I've had a dance with Chanel. Just as you describe, slim with a fine booty. Decent dance. Not not the same person as Kathi or Kathy. For some reason Chanel and I haven't connected since that one time even though I've seen her around the club a couple times. Perhaps because I've been preoccupied with my faves.

You must have good Spanish language skills. I can listen and the key words jump out at me. I don't have the ability to carry on a robust conversation. I can also get the key words out but sometimes in other languages AKA second language interference, as it's called.


I'm trying to figure out why bandaids is getting so many good looking women lately. It's weird. The day time this Sunday was the best I've ever seen it. While Centerfolds has the same ol girls. Bandaids is rotating in new ones. Crazy.I think it's a combination of things. Changes, problems and pressures at other Valley clubs have dancers looking around. I believe Bandaids has a decent reputation among dancers, though you can always find someone unhappy with anyplace. , Bandaids is fairly well managed, not perfect, but reliable and fair to dancers. Dancers and customers are diverse. I don't think dancers or customers feel unwelcome because of ethnicity. Dancers' house fees are reasonable and the club is in a good location to get customers coming from downtown sporting events. Dancers should have Suns and Dbacks games on their calendars.

Higgs.

[Danimal Forth]

I've had a dance with Chanel. Just as you describe, slim with a fine booty. Decent dance. Not not the same person as Kathi or Kathy. For some reason Chanel and I haven't connected since that one time even though I've seen her around the club a couple times.For a while I was seeing Chanel a lot so I think she might have changed her schedule up. Can't really offer advice on when to catch her.

She has never exuded much warmth to me and I've never gotten any dances. I've caught her a few times in street clothes and she looks really great in those too. Without the heels she's very petite. She also chopped off a lot of that long hair that she used to have. And It's interesting that she doesn't identify with the rest of Club Cubana.

I've thought about posting my thoughts about her several times except that it just never seemed to add up to much of anything useful.

[Deboinair]

I've had a dance with Chanel. Just as you describe, slim with a fine booty. Decent dance. Not not the same person as Kathi or Kathy. For some reason Chanel and I haven't connected since that one time even though I've seen her around the club a couple times. Perhaps because I've been preoccupied with my faves.

You must have good Spanish language skills. I can listen and the key words jump out at me. I don't have the ability to carry on a robust conversation. I can also get the key words out but sometimes in other languages AKA second language interference, as it's called.

I think it's a combination of things. Changes, problems and pressures at other Valley clubs have dancers looking around. I believe Bandaids has a decent reputation among dancers, though you can always find someone unhappy with anyplace. , Bandaids is fairly well managed, not perfect, but reliable and fair to dancers. Dancers and customers are diverse. I don't think dancers or customers feel unwelcome because of ethnicity. Dancers' house fees are reasonable and the club is in a good location to get customers coming from downtown sporting events. Dancers should have Suns and Dbacks games on their calendars.

Higgs.My Spanish is bad, but it's weird it only works well under stress or if I met a woman a I really like. LOL Which is Colombianas. I truly do miss them. But the mulatto Cubanas are such a rarity and the few I've meet were sweet as honey. So I guess I got real comfortable. Says she is married and going to school for English. Could be true, maybe not. Nevertheless I think she is sweet. I may break my no dancing rule with her. Ha ha.

[Deboinair]

The "original" Christies' was a Tiffany's, a then new club that opened on 32 the Street south of Van Buren in the early 90's. Big grand opening, I even met a NYC dancer who said she was flown in just for the occasion. The Christies organization took it over and then built another club on Baseline. We often refer to it as being in Tempe but it is actually in Guadalupe, Baseline being the boundary between the two.

As for the inside of the Baseline club and the 32nd Street clubs, imagine the most lavish interiors with statuary, generally dark, my memory says potted plants. Very high ceilings which look even higher because of the dim lighting. We're not talking tacky disco balls here. The dancers are typically dressed in long gowns. At the 32nd Street location, there is a wide staircase that descends upon the main stage from the upper floor and a dancer taking the stage does down the stairs and is met near the bottom by a dancer who is being replaced. The new dancer is extended a helping hand and is typically twirled by the dancer onstage (do they still do that? So we're talking about an attempt at a classy strip club. Imagine the most pretentious setup, most opulent decoration without being tacky, and very corny presentation of the dancers. As I said in a previous post, the Christies' clubs are a perfect place to bring someone from the upper echelons of a organization. It's safe but boring and there are no other clubs like these two.

You really have to go at least once to see these places. Then next time you can go someplace that is actually fun.
I think I will pass. Doesn't sound like a place I would like at all. Sound's like a place in Miami called Dean's Gold. They had to wear gowns and had to be all fancy. They didn't hire black women. It was 98% European, Russian, etc. The first time I went I had a blast because porn star Vanessa Rodriguez was there, but she wasn't a special guest. She danced under a different name, was taking a break from porn she said. The dances were worth it. Other times it was lame.

I really can't do the "Elite type clubs" It just doesn't have the strip club feel. It's like they expect you to treat them like you are their girlfriend in places like that.

[Danimal Forth]

A mostly positive review.

Only two previous visits both several years ago and both very short. Cover was 10 this time. I first looked into the nude side and saw three or four girls working over there at about 11 pm. One of them had a small, unshaved patch. I'm thinking it has been a long time since I've seen that on a nude dancer. Maybe my memory is bad.

Mostly I sat at the bar and observed. All of the staff was very friendly and attentive which was a nice contrast to time spent at Jags. The servers and bartenders were all smiling. Even one of the security guys said something one of the times he passed by. I'm not going to go as far as complaining about service at my preferred clubs but it was really great to see the warm attitude.

The dancers were generally very attractive. It probably leans toward thin, white girls though that's really not a problem for me. It was really an even mix of enhanced vs non-enhanced. I didn't spot any of the exotic girls mentioned in a previous post. The DJ was a little hard to understand when I tried to catch some of the girls' names. A lot of dancers were also smiling my way and that might have been their invitation to stop one of them. As it was, none of them tried to engage me and I didn't necessarily want that. I'm confident that taking a floor seat would have opened the door.

Before I took off I popped back into the nude side for just a few minutes which was enough time for a guy to come over and inform me that I needed to buy a drink. Since I was headed out I didn't want one and so I just left. Although he wasn't rude I don't really feel that I should have to buy a non-alcoholic drink especially after I've already spent money on the other side. That was the biggest negative mark.

[Higgs Boson]

I really can't do the "Elite type clubs" It just doesn't have the strip club feel. It's like they expect you to treat them like you are their girlfriend in places like that.You will definitely get something better from your girlfriend than from any of the dancers here doing table dances.

Higgs.

[Dick North]

Plenty clubs operate stupidly with the types of dancers they choose. I've never been, but I haven't heard anything great this place. Just some background info you can clear up for me. There are three Christie's and did 1 or 2 close down? Is this place equivalent to like a Scottsdale club in the sense of dancers and less activity?It appears that Higgs more than adequately delivered the background info you were looking for.

I would add that I experienced 3 distinct eras in the Tiffanys / Christies strip club existence. The first was their initial opening phase. Clearly they wanted to be an upscale club and I would occasionally see celebs like the Phoenix Suns players in there.

The next phase was the most fun for me, a true diversity of dancers who could perform really well. The last phase is what is left today, a dearth of diversity and entertainment value.

I will say though (as has been mentioned) that one needs to visit this club just to see the extravagant layout.

Just as a point of comparison, when you visit please note the gentlemen's restroom facilities and compare to Bandaids men's "restroom".

Have fun.

DN.

P.S. I want the nude babe statue when they shut down. (for my office of course).