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Utr In Ohio
11-29-12, 10:08
Quating Todd in Cincy.

"Even Buddha, a perceptive businessman who responds to the call of the market, seems to have gotten the message and is not offering near the caliber of ladies that he was in 2004.

We seem to moving toward a clientele who:

- Doesn't care about age / weight (I. E. Is fine with BBW)

- Is more focused on girls who "swallow" than on high-quality, model-type looks.

- Doesn't want to pay more than $100 per session."

I didn't drive down the rates. If you look back to just last year this board was full of post by seniors who said things like."It is your money! If these girls want to try and chrage 200+ then do not see them! She will learn soon enough that it is our money and we spend it wisely"

Anyone remember these posts?

Now, what has happened is you have every other hobbyist on here meeting SW quality girls off the street or at the drake and bringing them to the board. They post the ads for these girls. So the flood of lower end girls is due to everyone wanting either a special rate with the girl for posting for them or the thrill of introducing a new find whatever the quality may be.

Last year I had Tess at 200 and she only saw 3 people. Why? That girl was a 2010 Ms. Teen (blank state)!

I had to keep it quite because I didn't want to end up on the View! LOL.

But the high quality was there. The hobbyist were not!

As for my Chubby girls. Men like that! Maybe not everyone but a lot do! Also, you will notice when I put a end to hiring druggies the girls got thicker!

I can bring on super sexy chics like Jasmine (my new girl) but if no one shells out the cash to see her I will lose her. You pay for what you want. So see the hotties and pay the extra buck!

Jmho.

B

Cokscok
11-29-12, 11:12
It looks like we'll meet either tomorrow or the next day. She looks hot in the pics and her voice sounds sexy.Saw her about a year ago. Very GFE and great attitude. She's not a spinner but, in my opinion, an awesome body. Big in all the right places. She is also very bright and a good conversationalist. No signs of drugs or addiction. I would highly recommend.

CincyGuy123
11-29-12, 11:54
It looks like we'll meet either tomorrow or the next day. She looks hot in the pics and her voice sounds sexy.I've seen her twice and she is awesome. You'll have fun.

Cincy
11-29-12, 12:40
Hi guys,

She says she's seen some folks from this board. Anybody have anything to share. Please PM with details if you care to.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1607761#post1607761

C

Ceenote
11-29-12, 12:58
Hi guys,

She says she's seen some folks from this board. Anybody have anything to share. Please PM with details if you care to.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1607761#post1607761

CI have not seen Lisa, but she was an apprentice that had been working with Rhonda:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1601248&viewfull=1#post1601248

If she has been a good understudy and is now modeling the behavior of her mentor I would say there should be no hesitation in pulling the trigger and scheduling a visit with her. I may do so myself and will certainly report my findings if I do.

EricDraven
11-29-12, 13:12
I don't understand why you have to separate "fit" and "BBW". By fit I'm assuming you mean nasty skinny girls most likely crack addicts. All men do not like skinny women and saying that you should separate the skinny girls from the thick / chubby ones and put the thick / chubby ones in the bad category is dumb. You should be putting the freakishly skinny ones in the bad category since they are probably on drugs. Real men like some meat on their women and are not intimidated and know how to handle it. Trust me, it is a lot more fun with a real woman.

Peace!Your post came off as a little angry. Maybe that's not how you meant it. Putting thick / chubby ones into their own category is not putting them into "the bad category". Depending on your taste that might be the good category. I would rather drink Scotch then Bourbon. It doesn't mean bourbon isn't good. Other people prefer it. Either way there is no reason to mix them all together in the same section. I shouldn't have to weed through a bunch of bottles of Bourbon to find the Scotch I'm looking for. The same thing goes for a guy who just wants a nice bottle of Bourbon.

Saying that shinny girls are most likely crack addicts is just mean and untrue. Some are, some aren't. Just like with larger girls. If you think just because a girl is more full figured means that she isn't on drugs you are fooling yourself. The nature of H and crack does cause weight loss but a 15 pound weight loss is going to be a lot more noticeable on a skinny girl then a BBW. Saying freakishly skinny is just like saying freakishly large. There is no point in it except to be mean. Being a "real man" is knowing how to treat a woman, not what type of woman you are attracted to. As for a "real woman". That's a woman who was born without a penis. IMHO.

I'm all for sticking up for what you believe in and I applaud you for that. It's just not necessary to tear down others to do it. There can be a lot of anger on this board sometimes. Let's try and keep the "Peace!".

Cincy
11-29-12, 14:05
Thanks Ceenote. I haven't had the pleasure of Rhonda but her reputation precedes her.


I have not seen Lisa, but she was an apprentice that had been working with Rhonda:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1601248&viewfull=1#post1601248

If she has been a good understudy and is now modeling the behavior of her mentor I would say there should be no hesitation in pulling the trigger and scheduling a visit with her. I may do so myself and will certainly report my findings if I do.

DollPhace
11-29-12, 15:40
You were blessed with a high metabolism, and I was blessed with big tits, a big ass, and nice thighs. Just FYI Petite is always taken put of context, petite means short not skinny. They sell size 20 petite clothes for women under 6 ft 4. Have a nice day.


I must say I am a petite skinny girl however just because femalea are skinny does not necessarily mean they are crack addicts are on drugs. Some females, as myself, are just blessed with high metabolism and we are unable gain much weight. Petite women are real women as well and just because skinny does not in any way mean we all are intimidated and don't know how to handle it. I will speak for myself on I know how workmy body and handle things.

TWolfLCMint
11-29-12, 15:52
Someone said "lets put the skinny fit girls in one section and the SW, bad quality, low price, and BBW into the other category". That implies that the thick / bbw girls would be in the trash section which would be stupid since there are equally many trashy skinny girls who are crack addicts. Thats why I made my original post because I like a juicy plump pussy.

Wired2
11-29-12, 17:05
Aaaahhhhh. Destinybaby reconnect with this sweet spinner the other day.

A true GFE she is fun easy to talk to, an aims to please. Which has moved quickly to the top of my ATF list.

Member #4215
11-29-12, 17:25
That's like separating races, religion, etc. The board is fine just the way it is. There's mixture of Ladies as well as a mixture of Hobbyists. No need to separate the Women with a little more meat on Their bones. Pretty rude.

Just My opinion.


I wanted to float an idea that another senior and I were discussing in the back channel.

It seems that we have some extreme diversity here in tastes, as well as the sorts of providers who post.

A.) On one hand, we have some very high-end ladies like Dawn, Molly, Dixie, Shelley19 (they aren't the only ones, just giving the ones who come to mind). These are the women who are fit, youthful, etc.

Be.) On the other hand, we seem to have a profusion of late of BBW, older, and more SW-type providers.

Generally, the guys who go for categories a.) and be.) comprise two different groups of clientele. Also, there is a price differential between categories a.) and be.).

I am wondering if it would be helpful to segregate the ads: One group for the higher-end ladies who are younger, slender and generally fit the "traditional concept of female beauty." Then there could be a second category for the BBWs, etc.

The point here is not to leave anyone out, but rather to categorize service providers in a meaningful way that will make it easier for ladies to find customers, and vice versa.

This is a sensitive issue, I know; but the recent influx of SW-type ads are changing the overall tone of the board. I want the board to continue to attract high-end ladies. As it stands now, this is becoming more of a place for discount BBWs and SWs. I realize that this is okay with some of you. But the board will lose a lot of traffic if it becomes exclusively oriented toward the lower end of the market.

Thoughts, anyone?

TheCatholicGuy
11-29-12, 18:20
I had an outstanding time! Brooke is warm, personable and very talented!

DollPhace
11-29-12, 21:20
A post like that will get you laid. Most providers enjoy guys who just genuinely love to be with women.


Interesting idea, but the problem is, who gets to define? Generally, for me, I don't have a type. I can usually find something that attracts me in all women I meet.

As to the use of the board, it depends on my mood. Sometimes I want that slender, athletic woman, other times, I am in the mood for something else. In fact, I am so unsure of what I might be in the mood for from one session to another that I resist the idea of somebody classifying another by such terms as "BBW" or "high-end" when the reality is that there is no such thing as a "traditional."

Looking back at last month for instance, I had an incredible time with Dawn, as usual, but an equally lovely time with Ally and Cameron, who might be a bit thicker than some men like. Meanwhile I was with a visiting provider named Angel Hilton that was "stripper-hot" (as some might say) but it was like screwing a dead fish. The longer I hobby, the more I realize you are a fool if you judge a book by its cover here. I mean as long as they aren't so hideous to my personal taste that I would have difficulty completing the session, I try to keep an open mind and it has served me well over the years. I have had some merely mildly attractive women rock my world, and have had some incredibly attractive women leave me completely unsatisfied.

To try to establish a baseline for what beauty is is downright foolhardy.

For instance, you would be wrong to believe that slender and athletic is the "traditional idea of beauty." It is actually a fairly modern trend that the slender physical type has been considered "beautiful" by the general public for less than a century!

I know most don't come here for philosophy and discussion, so I won't belabor the point, but for those that want proof, pick up a copy of Soiled Doves or Goddess, Mother, Wife, and working girl as an entrance into the history of that elusive idea of beauty. Most generations before us would have laughed at what we call a "hottie." They would have described them as waif or wastrel. Slender was not considered attractive at all. If you doubt me and don't like to read, just run over to the Cincinnati Art Museum one afternoon and tour the artwork through the centuries. You will find far more Rubenesque women than thin women depicted in art. Why is that?

Let me wrap this up by saying, I like the idea of stratifying the board, but you will face two obstacles:

1) Can you really convince Jackson it is a good idea?

2) How do you determine which category a woman fits into?

PS: Ladies, do I get a discount if I am willing to sing the chorus to that West Side Story song for you before our session?

DollPhace
11-30-12, 01:19
Very few providers don't use BP or every other site. Isn't it asking for LE to irritate you when you post an ad with prices and specific services? Just a question. =Sinful Dreams; 1609815]IF you really wanted to get this board in better shape, you would not classify a SW in the same site or board as an Escort. Nor would you classify a BP girl as an escort, especially with just starting out. Yes I know some providers here still post on BP, but lets face it, that is asking for LE to come knocking on your door, and showing them right where you are. I have only been doing this since May of this year, and I am pretty cautious about who I see, and I do check references. I don't agree with a client trying to nickel and dime me to a lower price, and he feels he can do that because this site has SW's. There is an influx lately with the number of providers that are charging less than $100 for an HOUR, and I think that is preposterous, and I would question that session as a Hobbyist, to what you are really going to get. Other sites (I won't mention the names but you all know them) do NOT have SW's or BP girls on their site or board. In that regards, you also don't have as much drama on those boards as you do here. There are more high class girls there, and we know we are not going to have a problem with the client paying our rate. I have turned down potential clients, because they have tried to knock me down on price. My response is always "if you want an SW then go find one, because I am not and never have been, and never will be one."

Yes I am not in my 20's, but I damn sure know what I am doing if not more than any 20 year old. I believe the more mature you are, the more experienced you are, and I have never had a client tell me that I am not good at what I do. Some of the younger ones that you find on BP are nothing but cash and dash, or all about the money, and no service. I pay attention to the reviews you write on the other providers, and that is what I see more than anything is you didn't get what you paid for. Start looking for more than just looks for your money, and you won't continue to be disappointed. I know I am attractive, so I have nothing to worry about there, and I damn sure know what I am doing. I make sure my client is well taken care of before they leave that door. I always take suggestions, and offer specials every now and then, to show how much I appreciate my clients. After all, it is all about the client in the end because YOU are the one paying for the service. Other than one incident, I have never been disrespected because I don't allow it. I just simply don't put up with it. I know what I have to offer, and if you don't want that, or want to nickel and dime the price, then go look on the corner and see if you can find something better, and get the same experience and satisfaction out of it.

Be Safe,

Ally[/QUOTE]

PillowTalk69
11-30-12, 12:57
Friend of mine has been contacted by her and needs a 411 on her as he doesn't know her but she has a web site. Any help would be appreciated. PM would be best. Happyendings. Rare-playmate. Com is her web site but since I haven't seen her or know anything about her I can't say one way or the other for him. Hopefully some of the seniors might be able to help.

Rojo1970
11-30-12, 13:34
Friend of mine has been contacted by her and needs a 411 on her as he doesn't know her but she has a web site. Any help would be appreciated. PM would be best. Happyendings. Rare-playmate. Com is her web site but since I haven't seen her or know anything about her I can't say one way or the other for him. Hopefully some of the seniors might be able to help.Well, considering there's a freakin kid on the bed in one of the pics on her site, I would stay away. I've seen her post on BP before though. Not same pics, but definitely her.

Rojo

PillowTalk69
11-30-12, 14:07
Friend of mine has been contacted by her and needs a 411 on her as he doesn't know her but she has a web site. Any help would be appreciated. PM would be best. Happyendings. Rare-playmate. Com is her web site but since I haven't seen her or know anything about her I can't say one way or the other for him. Hopefully some of the seniors might be able to help.The lady is no longer under consideration for visitation due to bad responses and her choice of meeting place Sville Have a good weekend and will continue my never ending search for the "perfect storm" BCDs and plan to see a lady in Cincy soon. She does things that gives me goose bumps or might when we meet. Thanks again for all the responses and the honest feedback.

Chasbot
11-30-12, 14:10
I had an outstanding time! Brooke is warm, personable and very talented!What did the priest say? What do you get for banging an escort?

Did he get really into alot of description like dear forum letter?

Just wondering.

Chasbot
11-30-12, 14:58
We already have Senoir citizens.

We have regular members.

Pimps.

How bought hmmmm.

Long members

Hooded members.

Shit covered members.

Just a thought

CletusTheYokel
11-30-12, 15:29
USASG, I had a very nice dream with Sasha, a new girl with Buddah. Take home message: I had a great time; one of the best I have had in the hobby.

Incall was in the Eastgate area, and setup was easy working through Buddah who is always straightforward and professional.

Now to the good stuff, beginning with a cliche': Sasha looks better in person than her pics. Why? She is taller in person and most importantly, she has great eyes-eyes that look so good while they look into yours during her very good, teasing bls and BBBJ.

So the pics are her. Good looking girl. What they can't show is her great attitude which might be summarized as "I'm horny for you and want to have a great time fucking you silly." Menu is what is stated in her ad; I also know that mpop is available, and what's more not all girls can get me there, but Sasha had no problem.

Last, she is smart. I'm a guy who can quickly lose interest if his partner is an idiot. Sasha is smart and working on an advanced education-so you can make fun jokes that would go over the head of many girls and enjoy talking with her before she wears you out, again. Repeat? What do you think? Sasha and I already spoke about some kinky fun we might try next time.

And then I woke up in my crappy cubicle. But nice dream, yo.

Stay safe and smart,

Crazykev

Kendra Banks
11-30-12, 16:07
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Mustang817
11-30-12, 18:34
Just as a heads up to EloquentEven, Paris is probably not the absolute best choice of stage names for one of your new girls at this point, given the discussion on the BP thread, and given lack of photos posted.I checked out the link he posted for the site it says she changed her name. And man she is sexy.

Zomby
11-30-12, 19:06
I am wondering if it would be helpful to segregate the ads: One group for the higher-end ladies who are younger, slender and generally fit the "traditional concept of female beauty." Then there could be a second category for the BBWs, etc.I'm not local to you there in Cincinnati, but I'm going to voice my thoughts anyway. (:

I would not support such a scheme. Aside from my finely tuned ability to discriminate for myself, and the fact that my jones may change based on mood, available time, available funds, etc, I can think of three reasons off the top of my head:

1. I don't think there are enough different ads that are different enough to to warrant the additional effort it's going to take me to look for reviews or ads. I might think differently if there were 50+ girls in each category, but as it stands, it would just waste my time.

2. If Jackson or some board member / admin is going to do the categorization, I can see providers being upset when they perceive they are shuffled into the wrong category. Result: needless drama from those providers so slighted.

3. If the providers are going to be doing their own categorization, I can see patrons being upset at being "forced" to look at "inappropriate" ads in whichever forum. Result: needless drama from mongers all up in arms about "stupid" providers putting ads in the "wrong" place.

In the end, I think that one category of ads,"provider" is sufficient. Like I said, I can generally see which is which from the ad, and I can skip those that don't interest me that day.

/z

PhatDaty
11-30-12, 20:03
I'm not local to you there in Cincinnati, but I'm going to voice my thoughts anyway. (:

I would not support such a scheme. Aside from my finely tuned ability to discriminate for myself, and the fact that my jones may change based on mood, available time, available funds, etc, I can think of three reasons off the top of my head:

1. I don't think there are enough different ads that are different enough to to warrant the additional effort it's going to take me to look for reviews or ads. I might think differently if there were 50+ girls in each category, but as it stands, it would just waste my time.

2. If Jackson or some board member / admin is going to do the categorization, I can see providers being upset when they perceive they are shuffled into the wrong category. Result: needless drama from those providers so slighted.

3. If the providers are going to be doing their own categorization, I can see patrons being upset at being "forced" to look at "inappropriate" ads in whichever forum. Result: needless drama from mongers all up in arms about "stupid" providers putting ads in the "wrong" place.

In the end, I think that one category of ads,"provider" is sufficient. Like I said, I can generally see which is which from the ad, and I can skip those that don't interest me that day.

/zVery well reasoned and stated.

LaRoux
11-30-12, 20:18
Does it look like somethings wrong with her right are to anyone else? You can barely see it in just one pic.

TheCatholicGuy
11-30-12, 20:23
What did the priest say? What do you get for banging an escort?I don't see a need to confess it. I don't consider it a sin, and there's nothing in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek texts which specifically refers to premarital sex. Thus, no condemnation of it.

Buster6914
11-30-12, 21:20
Well said Randyman, if you don't like reading something then just skip it and pass on by.


For Todd in Cincy, Ally, etc. This is an age-old discussion, and the fact is the board is already pretty well segmented into threads .

Thorbane
12-01-12, 00:28
Very few providers don't use BP or every other site. Isn't it asking for LE to irritate you when you post an ad with prices and specific services? Just a question. =Sinful Dreams; 1609815]IF you really wanted to get this board in better shape, you would not classify a SW in the same site or board as an Escort. Nor would you classify a BP girl as an escort, especially with just starting out. Yes I know some providers here still post on BP, but lets face it, that is asking for LE to come knocking on your door, and showing them right where you are. I have only been doing this since May of this year, and I am pretty cautious about who I see, and I do check references. I don't agree with a client trying to nickel and dime me to a lower price, and he feels he can do that because this site has SW's. There is an influx lately with the number of providers that are charging less than $100 for an HOUR, and I think that is preposterous, and I would question that session as a Hobbyist, to what you are really going to get. Other sites (I won't mention the names but you all know them) do NOT have SW's or BP girls on their site or board. In that regards, you also don't have as much drama on those boards as you do here. There are more high class girls there, and we know we are not going to have a problem with the client paying our rate. I have turned down potential clients, because they have tried to knock me down on price. My response is always "if you want an SW then go find one, because I am not and never have been, and never will be one."

Yes I am not in my 20's, but I damn sure know what I am doing if not more than any 20 year old. I believe the more mature you are, the more experienced you are, and I have never had a client tell me that I am not good at what I do. Some of the younger ones that you find on BP are nothing but cash and dash, or all about the money, and no service. I pay attention to the reviews you write on the other providers, and that is what I see more than anything is you didn't get what you paid for. Start looking for more than just looks for your money, and you won't continue to be disappointed. I know I am attractive, so I have nothing to worry about there, and I damn sure know what I am doing. I make sure my client is well taken care of before they leave that door. I always take suggestions, and offer specials every now and then, to show how much I appreciate my clients. After all, it is all about the client in the end because YOU are the one paying for the service. Other than one incident, I have never been disrespected because I don't allow it. I just simply don't put up with it. I know what I have to offer, and if you don't want that, or want to nickel and dime the price, then go look on the corner and see if you can find something better, and get the same experience and satisfaction out of it.

Be Safe,

Ally[/QUOTE]Ok is it just me thinking this or do others share that same thought? That DollPhace Question is a little odd and not really really sure why she posted this question instead of just sending a PM to Ally? Not saying DollPhace does not have the right to ask the question. And never seen DollPhace and to be honest don't really know what type of provider she is as she just started posting not to long ago so time will tell if she going to be a provider that I might want to see. Just depends on the reviews she gets from other members of this board and time in service.

Wingman Todd
12-01-12, 02:39
I know what Todd Cincy was trying to put forthl After seeing all of the comments this past week, it will not work. One is left to view the many posts and judge you own price range and the expected services you shall receive. Though I am still and UTR and hobby very occasionally (my choice) , I would still prefer to visit with the upper scale ladies. Not mentioning any names to forget 1 or 10, but their service over time has been proven. The "lower" scale ladies with the "less than $ per hour" rates may be inviting, but you get what you pay for! Just saying. But I guess a nut is a nut. But an experience with an upscale lady (again not mentioning names) is just that. An experience well worth your time!

Sorry, again, in a pissy mood tonight and tired of the same be / s on this board.

You see someone YOU had a good time with, post a good review. If that provider was bad, post that too. Enough of the extended commentary on the open board. Wastes too much space! Get back to the basics of good intel!

IMHO.


I wanted to float an idea that another senior and I were discussing in the back channel.

It seems that we have some extreme diversity here in tastes, as well as the sorts of providers who post.

A.) On one hand, we have some very high-end ladies like Dawn, Molly, Dixie, Shelley19 (they aren't the only ones, just giving the ones who come to mind). These are the women who are fit, youthful, etc.

Be.) On the other hand, we seem to have a profusion of late of BBW, older, and more SW-type providers.

Generally, the guys who go for categories a.) and be.) comprise two different groups of clientele. Also, there is a price differential between categories a.) and be.).

I am wondering if it would be helpful to segregate the ads: One group for the higher-end ladies who are younger, slender and generally fit the "traditional concept of female beauty." Then there could be a second category for the BBWs, etc.

The point here is not to leave anyone out, but rather to categorize service providers in a meaningful way that will make it easier for ladies to find customers, and vice versa.

This is a sensitive issue, I know; but the recent influx of SW-type ads are changing the overall tone of the board. I want the board to continue to attract high-end ladies. As it stands now, this is becoming more of a place for discount BBWs and SWs. I realize that this is okay with some of you. But the board will lose a lot of traffic if it becomes exclusively oriented toward the lower end of the market.

Thoughts, anyone?

TC6969
12-01-12, 03:39
I don't see a need to confess it. I don't consider it a sin, and there's nothing in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek texts which specifically refers to premarital sex. Thus, no condemnation of it.I think there is some reference to spilling thy seed into the belly or something like that, then casting it upon the ground. Good work!

TC6969
12-01-12, 03:46
Your post came off as a little angry. Maybe that's not how you meant it. Putting thick / chubby ones into their own category is not putting them into "the bad category". Depending on your taste that might be the good category. I would rather drink Scotch then Bourbon. It doesn't mean bourbon isn't good. Other people prefer it. Either way there is no reason to mix them all together in the same section. I shouldn't have to weed through a bunch of bottles of Bourbon to find the Scotch I'm looking for. The same thing goes for a guy who just wants a nice bottle of Bourbon.

Saying that shinny girls are most likely crack addicts is just mean and untrue. Some are, some aren't. Just like with larger girls. If you think just because a girl is more full figured means that she isn't on drugs you are fooling yourself. The nature of H and crack does cause weight loss but a 15 pound weight loss is going to be a lot more noticeable on a skinny girl then a BBW. Saying freakishly skinny is just like saying freakishly large. There is no point in it except to be mean. Being a "real man" is knowing how to treat a woman, not what type of woman you are attracted to. As for a "real woman". That's a woman who was born without a penis. IMHO.

I'm all for sticking up for what you believe in and I applaud you for that. It's just not necessary to tear down others to do it. There can be a lot of anger on this board sometimes. Let's try and keep the "Peace!".I agree, can't we just all get along, I personally find them all rather facinating and enjoy all their ads.

DestinyBaby
12-01-12, 04:03
I am so glad you like it you were blessed with big tits and a big ass and nice thighs. Really like good for you. IMHO thats you and I didn't ask you what you were blessed for. I responded to a post made by someone besides yourself. IMHO you need to go re read the original post my sweetie dear. I responded back with I am blessed with high metabolism and I am one of the petite skinny girls he would be referring to. Just because a female is skinny does not make them drug addicts or on drugs. I don't give a the*and about another providers body bs so go somewhere with your crap. This site is becoming nothing but bs with a ton lately and thats why I have chosen not to post and just deal with my regulars whom contact me I have a life to lead then throw out at another provider what I got. Yes Ill post some my description in my ads thats it dnt post me what your body is because frankly I dnt give a rats a$$. However since you want to go there. I don't need big tits to know what I am doing or a big ass, I have a nice ass not big and not small, in the end it don't matter how someone is built as long as they are the type the clientele is seeking out and that provider knows what she is doing and how to work it. I spoke up for myself as far as the original post went as to the skinny comments in it. So go have yourself a nice day and if you want go look in the mirror and admirer your big tits and ass and nice thighs more. Peace.

DestinyBaby
12-01-12, 04:22
Thanks and I look forward to our next encounter as well!


Aaaahhhhh. Destinybaby reconnect with this sweet spinner the other day.

A true GFE she is fun easy to talk to, an aims to please. Which has moved quickly to the top of my ATF list.

BFDeal
12-01-12, 09:15
I fell off the chair I was laughing so hard. And I was Catholic until all the cases came out where the priests couldn't keep their hands off the cocktail weenies. Now I can't even root for Notre Dame! Keep the lazy nubes in line Wingman.

BFDeal


Good God boy! Do your freaking research on this board! Lexi is well reviewed on here and NR's as your have noticed and a sweetheart! Glad you enjoyed your time with Brooke, but it is time you started to read the forums to get up to speed. I know, Sundays you will be busy with the homilies and communions. No offense, not Catholic but spiritual. Now should we all bless your dick before you enter the neverland again? Nubies! Enough freaking said! No, more pointedly (and I haven't said this in awhile) RTFF'S! Now give me 10 Hail Mary's (opps thats football!) or whatever the fuck you call it!

Now I am a pissy mood tonight, and I'm speaking my mind which I haven't for sometime. Get over it!

WM.

Cowboy E
12-01-12, 10:28
Good God boy! Do your freaking research on this board! Lexi is well reviewed on here and NR's as your have noticed and a sweetheart! Glad you enjoyed your time with Brooke, but it is time you started to read the forums to get up to speed. I know, Sundays you will be busy with the homilies and communions. No offense, not Catholic but spiritual. Now should we all bless your dick before you enter the neverland again? Nubies! Enough freaking said! No, more pointedly (and I haven't said this in awhile) RTFF'S! Now give me 10 Hail Mary's (opps thats football!) or whatever the fuck you call it!

Now I am a pissy mood tonight, and I'm speaking my mind which I haven't for sometime. Get over it!

WM.She is my ATF if he would take the time to do his home work. He would have been there already. As matter of fact now I'm worked up. I'm on way way Lexi.

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12-01-12, 11:10
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ItsTimeToEat
12-01-12, 12:18
Wingman is like our version of a Walmart greeter. He always make a me smile when I get here!

Chasbot
12-01-12, 13:10
I think there is some reference to spilling thy seed into the belly or something like that, then casting it upon the ground. Good work!I think that I have heard of a Greek reference of spilling ass seeds. It causes babies to grow out of your ass.

I was a child bore of greek sex.

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12-01-12, 13:27
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DollPhace
12-01-12, 16:00
Honey, I don't post ads on USASG & don't live in Cincinnati. I do enjoy visiting though because the $ and the gentlemen are well worth it. I am also a not the same race as majority of the providers that post here. That being said, you will probally never see a review of me on here. This board is super entertaining so I post in the forums sometime. If you want any of my info, reviews or anything like that feel free to ask. Have a great day BayBay.


O is it just me thinking this or do others share that same thought? That DollPhace Question is a little odd and not really really sure why she posted this question instead of just sending a PM to Ally? Not saying DollPhace does not have the right to ask the question. And never seen DollPhace and to be honest don't really know what type of provider she is as she just started posting not to long ago so time will tell if she going to be a provider that I might want to see. Just depends on the reviews she gets from other members of this board and time in service.[/QUOTE]

BFDeal
12-01-12, 23:23
Which Walmart are you referring to? The ones here in Indiana have fat, ugly, hillbilly chicks with tats greeting you. They make me want to puke. I guess that's the definition of a Hoosier: Fat, ugly, hillbilly and tats.

BFDeal


Wingman is like our version of a Walmart greeter. He always make a me smile when I get here!

InKent
12-02-12, 02:33
Had a dream about Destiny Baby (posted in Escort Classified Ads) tonight. Gave her a text and she responded quickly. Verification through another provider was done, and she invited me over. I had a few reservations about the location, but it was completely safe and quiet. Incall was clean but a little cluttered. Definitely okay. We proceeded upstairs and lost our clothes. Let me first say, this girl is small. I mean, she's tiny. Did I mention she's tiny? That being said, her body happens to also be smokin' hot IMO. I like them small, and she fit the bill. Nice tits, great backside, nice legs, gorgeous neck. Her face is pretty, nice eyes, but looks a little older than her years (you can see it a bit in her pics). Tough times? She's a smoker, but I couldn't tell until I asked her. Nice menu, everything covered. That was fine with me. Did not ask for a covered BJ.

For those wondering (based on some other posts I read about the relationship between "skinny" and drugs) Destiny is very clean. Arms are clean, great skin, and she smelled nice. Also, great strawberry blonde hair. YMMV but she seemed into it and we finished doggie style. She knows how to work it in that position.

Sweet, sexy girl. Please give her a try, and treat her nice.

DestinyBaby
12-02-12, 04:48
I don't need a phone call to apologize to me. If I took it all wrong my apologies as well. I was already in a pissy mood and when I read what you put to me I got more ticked off I'll admit first hand. I just wanted you to know why I posted what I did because of the original post. I am skinny however just because females are skinny we are not all drug addicts. I don't do drugs of any sort andi surely am not freakishly skinny. I want to gain weight wish I could just can't. Have great day and best luck being a provider.


Umm Destiny, since you took such offense to what I said, I'm going to skip the PM and call you to apoligize. I'm not petty and mean like that. Sorry bay bay talk to you soon.

DestinyBaby
12-02-12, 04:53
Thank you and I enjoyed my time with you tonight as well. You were simple and easy to talk with and made me feel very comfortable. So you and all know I am 28 years old and yes had a lot of tough times in my life LOL yet hey survived them all and keep on going forward. Anyhow thanks for meeting up if you ever need another refernece you are welcome to use me to verify you. Have great day.


Had a dream about Destiny Baby (posted in Escort Classified Ads) tonight. Gave her a text and she responded quickly. Verification through another provider was done, and she invited me over. I had a few reservations about the location, but it was completely safe and quiet. Incall was clean but a little cluttered. Definitely okay. We proceeded upstairs and lost our clothes. Let me first say, this girl is small. I mean, she's tiny. Did I mention she's tiny? That being said, her body happens to also be smokin' hot IMO. I like them small, and she fit the bill. Nice tits, great backside, nice legs, gorgeous neck. Her face is pretty, nice eyes, but looks a little older than her years (you can see it a bit in her pics). Tough times? She's a smoker, but I couldn't tell until I asked her. Nice menu, everything covered. That was fine with me. Did not ask for a covered BJ.

For those wondering (based on some other posts I read about the relationship between "skinny" and drugs) Destiny is very clean. Arms are clean, great skin, and she smelled nice. Also, great strawberry blonde hair. YMMV but she seemed into it and we finished doggie style. She knows how to work it in that position.

Sweet, sexy girl. Please give her a try, and treat her nice.

PhatDaty
12-02-12, 07:33
Wingman is like our version of a Walmart greeter. He always make a me smile when I get here!Please speak for yourself. I would never consider putting a member like that in a place of being responsible for hospitality. He is a bully. He, and those that celebrate toxicity, drive new members and providers from this site.

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12-02-12, 10:20
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Thorbane
12-02-12, 12:57
Honey, I don't post ads on USASG & don't live in Cincinnati. I do enjoy visiting though because the $ and the gentlemen are well worth it. I am also a not the same race as majority of the providers that post here. That being said, you will probally never see a review of me on here. This board is super entertaining so I post in the forums sometime. If you want any of my info, reviews or anything like that feel free to ask. Have a great day BayBay.

O is it just me thinking this or do others share that same thought? That DollPhace Question is a little odd and not really really sure why she posted this question instead of just sending a PM to Ally? Not saying DollPhace does not have the right to ask the question. And never seen DollPhace and to be honest don't really know what type of provider she is as she just started posting not to long ago so time will tell if she going to be a provider that I might want to see. Just depends on the reviews she gets from other members of this board and time in service.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know you are not the same race as most providers as I would swear I saw you ad on here or backpage when you were probaly touring? But thanks for the open invitation for info that was thoughtful. And you have a great day to.

Kostabi
12-03-12, 15:55
Is she still working? I have not seen her advertise here lately. I would like to see her.

Bobby1862
12-04-12, 00:19
Is she still working? I have not seen her advertise here lately. I would like to see her.Her official website still seems to be up.

ItsTimeToEat
12-04-12, 06:57
Please speak for yourself. I would never consider putting a member like that in a place of being responsible for hospitality. He is a bully. He, and those that celebrate toxicity, drive new members and providers from this site.I guess it wasn't obvious enough for some of ya'

Some of you guys really are oblivious.

Dilli Gara
12-04-12, 10:50
I guess it wasn't obvious enough for some of ya'

Some of you guys really are oblivious.I guess we really do have to put smiley faces and LOL after each sentence for those with a challenged sense of humor. Read from post 559 on in the rip off thread. Same sense of humor issue. Everyone just unwind a little bit and enjoy the holidays. Life is too short! Be safe. Dilli

TheCatholicGuy
12-04-12, 11:51
Is she still working? I have not seen her advertise here lately. I would like to see her.Se was active on NR a few hours ago.

Delectable. I've definitely got her site bookmarked.

TheCatholicGuy
12-04-12, 12:00
I'm thinking about calling her in a couple of weeks. I've seen year-old NR reports and a search here comes up with no matches.

Has anyone met her?

DickHerDown
12-04-12, 17:21
I recently saw a well reviewed provider on this board. I won't mention a name cause I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Anyway, while the service was good, I almost puked when I kissed her! Her mouth tasted like she had just eaten a shit sandwich. LOL. Now I'm not talking about smoke either guys. I mean, it was more like straight dirty ass! Heads up ladies. Fresh breath is a must!

BiggerDog69
12-04-12, 20:04
Her official website still seems to be up.She's still around, just doesn't have access to a computer. I know she still actively posts on NR.

Member #4505
12-04-12, 20:47
I recently saw a well reviewed provider on this board. I won't mention a name cause I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Anyway, while the service was good, I almost puked when I kissed her! Her mouth tasted like she had just eaten a shit sandwich. LOL. Now I'm not talking about smoke either guys. I mean, it was more like straight dirty ass! Heads up ladies. Fresh breath is a must!How fresh can her breath be if she had been suckin dick all day?

EatinCrayons
12-04-12, 20:54
Originally Posted by Wingman Todd.


Good God boy! Do your freaking research on this board! Lexi is well reviewed on here and NR's as your have noticed and a sweetheart! Glad you enjoyed your time with Brooke, but it is time you started to read the forums to get up to speed. I know, Sundays you will be busy with the homilies and communions. No offense, not Catholic but spiritual. Now should we all bless your dick before you enter the neverland again? Nubies! Enough freaking said! No, more pointedly (and I haven't said this in awhile) RTFF'S! Now give me 10 Hail Mary's (opps thats football!) or whatever the fuck you call it!

Now I am a pissy mood tonight, and I'm speaking my mind which I haven't for sometime. Get over it!

WM.
She is my ATF if he would take the time to do his home work. He would have been there already. As matter of fact now I'm worked up. I'm on way way Lexi.Since I've seen a new "Lexi" or two, need I ask if in reference to me? If so, thank you guys so very much! Hope you've been good! Hope to see you soon!

Merry Chrismas guys!

XOXO

Kendra Banks
12-04-12, 21:33
So. It's the lovely holidays and I know you wonderful generous

Gentleman want me in a bow for Christmas! I am a beautiful BBw with platinum

Blonde hair. Best BBBJ in the south, killer pink. It's like eating butterscotch candy.

So please give me an opportunity to show you what true southern hospitality.

Is about! 100 hhr / 150 hr donation. 636-649-9633.

DickHerDown
12-05-12, 11:53
How fresh can her breath be if she had been suckin dick all day?LOL. Nice one man, but I can assure you it wasn't that! It was more like she had been eating ass all day and swallowed a coir of Turds!

Buster6914
12-05-12, 16:20
Hey Dick,

Only problem I'm having with your review is figuring out how you know what a shit sandwich tastes like. Well, wait a minute, don't tell us we really don't need that much information.

Buster.


I recently saw a well reviewed provider on this board. I won't mention a name cause I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Anyway, while the service was good, I almost puked when I kissed her! Her mouth tasted like she had just eaten a shit sandwich. LOL. Now I'm not talking about smoke either guys. I mean, it was more like straight dirty ass! Heads up ladies. Fresh breath is a must!

Kenwood Jack
12-05-12, 16:51
Name: BRANDY.

GENERAL AREA OF TOWN: Eastgate.

WHERE FROM: USASG Advertiser.

Reviewed by: Kenwood Jack.

Looks compared to photo: 30ish. Very cute. I would not be embarrassed to be seen at a nice restaurant with her. Take off 30 pounds and she would be super. Looks just like her photos.

Easy or hard to set up meeting: Answered right away. Standard 2 call system. Also. She turned OFF her phone when I arrived.

Incall or outcall: Incall.

Cleanliness of girl: seemed great.

Cleanliness of incall: clean mid-priced suite.

Perfume: none (as I requested)

Smoking: I could not smell any smoke (as I requested)

Attitude: 10 (very willing to accomadate)

Skill: good skills and super attitude.

SPECIALTIES: CIM.

Comfortability level: very comfortable place in nice area.

Menu: VERY OPEN (just ask) , GFE, cfs, BBBJCIM

Today's experience: BBBJCIM.

Safety of incall (and why) : as safe as any clean mid-priced hotel / motel in a commercial area. It seemed very safe. Surrounding area I would not be afraid to walk my dog at night.

Overall pros: attitude and attitude.

Cost: idk cause I gave her a good tip.

Overall value: good

Thorbane
12-05-12, 18:06
I recently saw a well reviewed provider on this board. I won't mention a name cause I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Anyway, while the service was good, I almost puked when I kissed her! Her mouth tasted like she had just eaten a shit sandwich. LOL. Now I'm not talking about smoke either guys. I mean, it was more like straight dirty ass! Heads up ladies. Fresh breath is a must!Just wonder if you seen this provider before and did she have bad breath? Also did you pm or call this provider and give her the 411 on her breath? I know this might be hard to belived but she may not be aware of the problem. I know some people get a lot of bacteria and other stuff on there tounge. Also if they have dental issues may case bad breath even if you brush.

Cowboy E
12-05-12, 21:37
Originally Posted by Wingman Todd.

Since I've seen a new "Lexi" or two, need I ask if in reference to me? If so, thank you guys so very much! Hope you've been good! Hope to see you soon!

Merry Chrismas guys!

XOXOBabe The Mrs Lexi that we are speaking about is aka (SEXY RED) Is my ATF and a wonderful provider as well as a friend. It is nice to have so many ladies that have titles that can confuse us but if each gentleman would do their home work as they should. As Wt said. There wouldn't be any confusion. But if you think about it heck what I should do is call all the Lexies and have them all show up at the same time WOW! Then there isn't any confusion and yall get to meet and who hoo I get to meet yall at the same time. Then I could just say lexi and yall cum runninin. I don't Know I'm just a dumb Cowboy. I think I would need a wing man tho there are so many of you. LOL

DickHerDown
12-06-12, 08:11
Just wonder if you seen this provider before and did she have bad breath? Also did you pm or call this provider and give her the 411 on her breath? I know this might be hard to belived but she may not be aware of the problem. I know some people get a lot of bacteria and other stuff on there tounge. Also if they have dental issues may case bad breath even if you brush.I had seen her once before, and while her breath wasn't the freshest, it was nowhere near like the last visit! And no, I never did tell her about it. I'm sure another monger will beat me to it. LOL.

AshleyFox
12-06-12, 08:43
I will not longer affliliated or helping Strawberry Red in any means or fashion.

BBurch9021
12-06-12, 12:32
Name: BRANDY.

GENERAL AREA OF TOWN: Eastgate.

WHERE FROM: USASG Advertiser.

Reviewed by: Kenwood Jack.

Looks compared to photo: 30ish. Very cute. I would not be embarrassed to be seen at a nice restaurant with her. Take off 30 pounds and she would be super. Looks just like her photos.

Easy or hard to set up meeting: Answered right away. Standard 2 call system. Also. She turned OFF her phone when I arrived.

Incall or outcall: Incall.

Cleanliness of girl: seemed great.

Cleanliness of incall: clean mid-priced suite.

Perfume: none (as I requested)

Smoking: I could not smell any smoke (as I requested)

Attitude: 10 (very willing to accomadate)

Skill: good skills and super attitude.

SPECIALTIES: CIM.

Comfortability level: very comfortable place in nice area.

Menu: VERY OPEN (just ask) , GFE, cfs, BBBJCIM

Today's experience: BBBJCIM.

Safety of incall (and why) : as safe as any clean mid-priced hotel / motel in a commercial area. It seemed very safe. Surrounding area I would not be afraid to walk my dog at night.

Overall pros: attitude and attitude.

Cost: idk cause I gave her a good tip.

Overall value: goodYour reviews are great and I appreciate all of the detail you put into them. I'm going do a nice review like this on my next experience. Unfortunately xmass is killing my extra funds so it may be awhile.

NewToMe
12-06-12, 13:55
Has anyone seen her if so let me know

Babelover77
12-06-12, 16:15
Guys, did anyone here partake? PM me if anyone has details.

T J

Member #4505
12-06-12, 17:18
I took a trip to Eastgate to see Brandy. She has a few extra pounds but her face and attitude make up for it. Great value for the price. I wish she could mentor some of the other girls on this board.

Wingman Todd
12-06-12, 22:05
Have you ever considered researching on the forums, or just too lazy? If you would have taken the time, you would have found her on:

Escort Classified Ads. Posted by Escorts. No Reviews or Commentary. Post # 2860. RTFF!
GEEZ! Where has this damn board gone?

WM.


Has anyone seen her if so let me know

TheCatholicGuy
12-06-12, 22:11
Have you ever considered researching on the forums, or just too lazy? If you would have taken the time, you would have found her on:

Escort Classified Ads. Posted by Escorts. No Reviews or Commentary. GEEZ! Where has this damn board gone?

WM.If the search function on this board wasn't so bad, it would be a snap.

What's wrong with just answering a question? Do you have to be hostile to people? And then you have the nerve to complain about the board deteriorating?

Give me a damn break!

HendoKy
12-06-12, 22:55
Have you ever considered researching on the forums, or just too lazy? If you would have taken the time, you would have found her on:

Escort Classified Ads. Posted by Escorts. No Reviews or Commentary. Post # 2860. RTFF!

GEEZ! Where has this damn board gone?

WM.It was his 1st post. Not like the board comes with an instruction manual or is that user friendly. In the time we both posted a response we could have given the new guy info.

Ancvz
12-06-12, 23:26
It was his 1st post. Not like the board comes with an instruction manual or is that user friendly. In the time we both posted a response we could have given the new guy info.Not to mention that the search functionality is pretty much crippled right now (or has been over the last couple days while they re-index everything). It's been frustrating to try to find any info the last few. Have to ctl-f on each page to search what you're looking for.

TheCatholicGuy
12-07-12, 00:40
You don't get standing on this board without first good intel and posts. In the past I used to help and guide you nubies. I do not anymore as it is a waste of useful time due to the fact that you don't do your homework. Though semi-retired, I will still go back and read posts from a month ago just to stay current. I provided the lazy Catholic guy with a post where to find Silk. Gosh, it took me like 30 seconds to find and give him the intel! And he is still oblivious! You nubies expect everytone to hand out valuable info when if you would spend a fucking hour and research the various forums the info would be right in front of your stupid ass faces. But no, you expect the Seniors and other respected members to give it to you on a silver platter. And you nubies think you can just dial up a respected provider on this board and expect to get laid. This is not Craigslist! Ain't going to happen with the "A" list providers without vetted references! Got that! WM.Not many people have the time or the desire to read page after page after page after page of posts.

But it's your sucky attitude which rankles me most. Do you treat the ladies like dirt? I hope not.

Member #4502
12-07-12, 01:20
. I provided the lazy Catholic guy punk with a post where to find Silk. Gosh, it took me like 30 seconds to find and give him the intel! And he is still oblivious! You nubies expect everytone to hand out valuable info when if you would spend a fucking hour and research the various forums the info would be right in front of your stupid ass faces. . WM.This nasty arrogant tirade is unnecessary. Had a bad day?

CinciFireball
12-07-12, 09:21
I on a quest for the best DT artist in town.

Any recommendations? So far, Candace has demonstrated some pretty amazing skills-

Wingman Todd
12-07-12, 11:53
Bad day? How about bad freaking month or so! Having issues, but don't need to take it out on you guys. I'll settle down and get off everyone's butt including Catholic dude. Be safe and have at it.


This nasty arrogant tirade is unnecessary. Had a bad day?

NewToMe
12-07-12, 12:40
If the search function on this board wasn't so bad, it would be a snap.

What's wrong with just answering a question? Do you have to be hostile to people? And then you have the nerve to complain about the board deteriorating?

Give me a damn break!I agree it is hard to get through anything on here I do all by smart phone so it makes it that much harder just wanted to know if she was for real she is very yummy

Rojo1970
12-07-12, 13:15
Bad day? How about bad freaking month or so! Having issues, but don't need to take it out on you guys. I'll settle down and get off everyone's butt including Catholic dude. Be safe and have at it.I have stayed away from all the hostile banter here so far. I too, would be considered a newbie here myself. But I think I have been figuring out this sight better by now. I'm glad to see some are recognizing that maybe they are being a little sensitive towards newbs. (that is NOT an antagonistic remark towards those that are doing it). I'm sorry you've had a bad month, period. And I applaud your above post. It takes a man to recognize this in himself. We are all here for the same thing, essentially.

I did notice that there is a thread lower down that explains to newbies the basic "proper use" of this board. But I also noticed that it contains little useful info regarding problem topics. Maybe we should utilize this thread more and update it, so as to be able to refer newbies to it in answer to their questions, instead of flaming them and scaring them off. After all, these newbies may eventually become useful sources of info themselves, with some guidance. They will eventually toftt. Additionaly all the hostility / negativity will eventually drive off the good / legitimate providers, or keep new ones from joining.

This is all IMHO.

Rojo (spanish for red, for those wondering)

Newbie 101
12-07-12, 13:51
Wingman continues to verbally abuse every new member. I for one, got tired of it and went UTR a year ago. This can be a great site, but it is best served UTR via PM. If you do a search, you will see that I brought talent to the site. But, then got caught up in the drama and decided to keep my intel for myself. If a few could be eliminated from posting. Oh well, that will never happen.

So, good for you WMT! I see you continue being like a silly little drama school girl. And, continue to chase off new members. What a surprise!

101.


This nasty arrogant tirade is unnecessary. Had a bad day?

JSmith90
12-07-12, 16:43
I took a trip to Eastgate to see Brandy. She has a few extra pounds but her face and attitude make up for it. Great value for the price. I wish she could mentor some of the other girls on this board.+1, I would have to agree

RavHeav
12-07-12, 20:51
You don't get standing on this board without first good intel and posts. And I know that can be an uphill challenge. Keep plugging away, preferrably w/o the b/p girls who by and large are cash and dash - not all !In the past I used to help and guide you nubies. I do not anymore as it is normally a waste of useful time due to the fact that you don't do your homework. Though semi-retired, I will still go back and read posts from a month ago just to stay current. I provided the lazy Catholic guy punk with a post where to find Silk. Gosh, it took me like 30 seconds to find and give him the intel! And he is still oblivious!Tirades like this are why newbies are hesitant to post ANYTHING here. Hell, I could put up some intel and reviews here, but because of my low post count I'd probably get accused of making it all up.

All newbies bow down to Wingman.

PhatDaty
12-07-12, 22:48
Not many people have the time or the desire to read page after page after page after page of posts.

But it's your sucky attitude which rankles me most. Do you treat the ladies like dirt? I hope not.Have no fear. I plan on ending enough members and providers ver the next few months that they will be a minority and the peer pressure will either force them to be more civil, give back to the hobby community, or find some other place where there negative attitude and bullying behavior will be tolerated.

Keep in mind, that "senior designation" next to their name has nothing to do respect, reputation, intelligence and invaluable information to share to others. It simply means they lurked here for 6 months and posted 25 times. Nevermind that some folks on here post over 500 times and they think those frivolous post give them authority.

The majority will speak, and they will be shown the door so that this board will indeed flourish-for ladies-better clients that pay and don't cheat them, deride them, or haggle with them. For the gents it means more professional providers and better ads and research that is actionable.

This bullshit by the old gentry is over-they should go start their own site where thy can have circle jerks and compliment one another on how rude they can be-it will be a a lonely chatroom.

The beauty, is I won't have to post a word. I plan on flooding this board with experienced hobbyists and providers and we will drive out the waste of space that some seniors take up, peer pressure will prove to be the best tool.

So, either start treating people, new and old, in a more considerate manner-or leave.

Wingman Todd
12-07-12, 23:38
To all my old friends on this board, new friends, nubies, and providers alike. I know my posts have not been too kind as of late. For that I am sorry. I am under a world of stress. I have a 91 mother I must put into a nursing home. Has anyone tried to navigate the b/ s of Medicaid forms to do this? STRESS! Plus there is so much else that goes along with this process. My stress level is in overdrive. To those I have offended, I offer my appolgies and I am sorry. The new hobbists will continue when us old farts leave. I applaud Thorbane among others! He reminds me of me 2-3 years ago as an active and great contributor! I also have recently learned I have an irregular heart beat. Great. What else do I need right now? Nothing too serious, but! Procedures will be forthcoming. I would normally keep this crap private, but I know I have offended many, so you all should know why I have been a butt. Sorry, so I thought you all should know why I have become grumpy and a complete asshole! It is unsettling to me, a bit scared and WTF is this happening to me! But I am sure I will be back to keep after you guys and girls! Until then, I am signing off until things are takening care of. Stay safe, treat the "A" providers right as they will you! Watch out for stings and protect each other.hobbists and providers alike. Wingman has left the room for awhile! Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to All! And God bless this country!

WingmanTodd


I have stayed away from all the hostile banter here so far. I too, would be considered a newbie here myself. But I think I have been figuring out this sight better by now. I'm glad to see some are recognizing that maybe they are being a little sensitive towards newbs. (that is NOT an antagonistic remark towards those that are doing it). I'm sorry you've had a bad month, period. And I applaud your above post. It takes a man to recognize this in himself. We are all here for the same thing, essentially.

I did notice that there is a thread lower down that explains to newbies the basic "proper use" of this board. But I also noticed that it contains little useful info regarding problem topics. Maybe we should utilize this thread more and update it, so as to be able to refer newbies to it in answer to their questions, instead of flaming them and scaring them off. After all, these newbies may eventually become useful sources of info themselves, with some guidance. They will eventually toftt. Additionaly all the hostility / negativity will eventually drive off the good / legitimate providers, or keep new ones from joining.

This is all IMHO.

Rojo (spanish for red, for those wondering)

Wingman Todd
12-07-12, 23:52
I will be only on PM and will help you with ANY questions or advice! And I caught the comment by POS PhatDaty, NO COMMEMENT! Not worth the space or time. Forgrt about your low post count. Contribute with intel good or bad. That will give you standing and respect! Okay, I am done here. WM.


Tirades like this are why newbies are hesitant to post ANYTHING here. Hell, I could put up some intel and reviews here, but because of my low post count I'd probably get accused of making it all up.

All newbies bow down to Wingman.

Bobby1862
12-08-12, 00:11
To all my old friends on this board, new friends, nubies, and providers alike. I know my posts have not been too kind as of late. For that I am sorry. I am under a world of stress. I have a 91 mother I must put into a nursing home. Has anyone tried to navigate the be / s of Medicaid forms to do this? STRESS! Plus there is so much else that goes along with this process. My stress level is in overdrive. To those I have offended, I offer my appolgies and I am sorry. The new hobbists will continue when us old farts leave. I applaud Thorbane among others! He reminds me of me 2-3 years ago as an active and great contributor! I also have recently learned I have an irregular heart beat. Great. What else do I need right now? Nothing too serious, but! Procedures will be forthcoming. I would normally keep this crap private, but I know I have offended many, so you all should know why I have been a butt. Sorry, so I thought you all should know why I have become grumpy and a complete asshole! It is unsettling to me, a bit scared and WTF is this happening to me! But I am sure I will be back to keep after you guys and girls! Until then, I am signing off until things are takening care of. Stay safe, treat the "A" providers right as they will you! Watch out for stings and protect each other. Hobbists and providers alike. Wingman has left the room for awhile! Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to All! And God bless this country!

WingmanToddMr. Wingman,

I don't have the n'th amount of cred that you do and if I see you rant, I take it with a grain of salt. I have always seen your views as being candid and accept them as such. They always seem to be spot on. Good luck with Mom. It is hard but unfortunately necessary and she has to be content that you feel for her this way. I think this should be true but every situation is different and I really have no idea of what you are going through but have to assume it is extremely tough

TheCatholicGuy
12-08-12, 00:51
To all my old friends on this board, new friends, nubies, and providers alike. I know my posts have not been too kind as of late. For that I am sorry. I am under a world of stress. I have a 91 mother I must put into a nursing home. Has anyone tried to navigate the be / s of Medicaid forms to do this? STRESS! Plus there is so much else that goes along with this process. My stress level is in overdrive. To those I have offended, I offer my appolgies and I am sorry. The new hobbists will continue when us old farts leave. I applaud Thorbane among others! He reminds me of me 2-3 years ago as an active and great contributor! I also have recently learned I have an irregular heart beat. Great. What else do I need right now? Nothing too serious, but! Procedures will be forthcoming. I would normally keep this crap private, but I know I have offended many, so you all should know why I have been a butt. Sorry, so I thought you all should know why I have become grumpy and a complete asshole! It is unsettling to me, a bit scared and WTF is this happening to me! But I am sure I will be back to keep after you guys and girls! Until then, I am signing off until things are takening care of. Stay safe, treat the "A" providers right as they will you! Watch out for stings and protect each other. Hobbists and providers alike. Wingman has left the room for awhile! Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to All! And God bless this country!

WingmanToddMy heart goes out to you. I lost my mom about two-and-a-half years ago.

My thoughts and prayers for you and yours, Todd.

Thorbane
12-08-12, 11:02
[QUOTE=Wingman Todd; 1617247]To all my old friends on this board, new friends, nubies, and providers alike. I know my posts have not been too kind as of late. For that I am sorry. I am under a world of stress. I have a 91 mother I must put into a nursing home. Has anyone tried to navigate the be / s of Medicaid forms to do this? STRESS! Plus there is so much else that goes along with this process. My stress level is in overdrive. To those I have offended, I offer my appolgies and I am sorry. The new hobbists will continue when us old farts leave. I applaud Thorbane among others! He reminds me of me 2-3 years ago as an active and great contributor! I also have recently learned I have an irregular heart beat. Great. What else do I need right now? Nothing too serious, but! Procedures will be forthcoming. I would normally keep this crap private, but I know I have offended many, so you all should know why I have been a butt. Sorry, so I thought you all should know why I have become grumpy and a complete asshole! It is unsettling to me, a bit scared and WTF is this happening to me! But I am sure I will be back to keep after you guys and girls! Until then, I am signing off until things are takening care of. Stay safe, treat the "A" providers right as they will you! Watch out for stings and protect each other. Hobbists and providers alike. Wingman has left the room for awhile! Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to All! And God bless this country!

WingmanTodd[/QUOTE.

I Feel Honored that a esteemed member such as yourself on such kind words for myself and other member on the board. Sorry to hear About you Mother and yeah I know all all about Medicaid and the slow process and crap you got to go thur. As someone who has a ton of Stress in there life I now where you are comming from.

And for what it's worth I hope you find some peace and your health improves. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to you and you family.

TBoned
12-08-12, 14:45
As a new member just wanted to say take care of your self and your mother and family and you will be in our prayers. I can say many of us have had to deal with stressful situations and totally understand.

Take care.

Tboned

BigMack
12-08-12, 19:59
Hopefully this will all turn out for the best but meanwhile, plenty of shoulders abound to help you through this. Keep a postive attitude and try to remember YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Best wishes to you WMT BMack

TheCatholicGuy
12-08-12, 21:24
I will continue to keep in contact with you to find out how you are doing. I do worry and I am concerned on your stress levels and what you have going on health wise. My mother is all I have left, and she is in bad health, so I do understand what you are going through.

AllyI hope and pray for her to get well.

BFDeal
12-09-12, 01:29
You guys are lucky down there in the nati. You are blessed with hot providers like Dawn, Petra and Silk (to name a few) and with a great "go-to" man like Buddah. And you are also lucky to have the Wingman. Hobbyists like that are irreplaceable. Take care, bud.

BFDeal

Thorbane
12-09-12, 03:24
I will continue to keep in contact with you to find out how you are doing. I do worry and I am concerned on your stress levels and what you have going on health wise. My mother is all I have left, and she is in bad health, so I do understand what you are going through.

AllySorry to hear about your Mother.

TheCatholicGuy
12-09-12, 16:17
Gawd what a hottie!

Who's met with her?

SilkyWet
12-10-12, 17:19
Hello guys well I have recently purchased new holiday outfits including a snowbunny elf and a special one from victoria secrects if interested please request when you call happy holidays.

Member #4215
12-11-12, 15:22
Had a Guy contact Me via Ymessenger, When asked for references:

10:47:05 AM

Cincyguy45243: I have seen ronda, hotsquirt, Cali, and others.

So I continued to talk with Him asking how They'd recognize Him. Etc. He asked for a face pic, I do not normally share as I stay UTR as much as possible. I shared. He liked and made the appointment. Gave Me His number (Providers I will give You) and asked for Mine (Of which I'm a bit picky but He had references and seemed serious) Said He'd call when got off of the exit. I got offline, Took a shower, Got ready. To not get a message, call, cancel, etc.

Moral of story: Our time is just as important as Yours. Please send a text / call letting Providers know You cannot make it. Would You miss a Doctor Appt without calling? I'd hope not.

Play safe & Any providers wanting any more info can inbox Me.

HelpMeRhonda
12-13-12, 10:41
We have 12 days till Christmas, any clients who bring a toy for me donate to Toys For Tots will receive 10 dollars off their session, it doesn't have to be anything large, and of course is optional, I know some of you guys are not ones for shopping but it is an idea and if you want to bring one GREAT, if by chance you can't for some reason thats ok too, some of my clients already know I am doing this and the collection so far is doing great. Happy Holidays to you all. Rhonda

Dtmfgen
12-13-12, 12:28
I saw a posting from Autum about not hosting Strawberry any more and no further postings from Stawberry. Is she gone now?

Cinyguy C
12-13-12, 13:21
Had a Guy contact Me via Ymessenger, When asked for references:

10:47:05 AM

Cincyguy45243: I have seen ronda, hotsquirt, Cali, and others.

So I continued to talk with Him asking how They'd recognize Him. Etc. He asked for a face pic, I do not normally share as I stay UTR as much as possible. I shared. He liked and made the appointment. Gave Me His number (Providers I will give You) and asked for Mine (Of which I'm a bit picky but He had references and seemed serious) Said He'd call when got off of the exit. I got offline, Took a shower, Got ready. To not get a message, call, cancel, etc.

Moral of story: Our time is just as important as Yours. Please send a text / call letting Providers know You cannot make it. Would You miss a Doctor Appt without calling? I'd hope not.

Play safe & Any providers wanting any more info can inbox Me.I did not make the appointment, she is not attractive and I passed on her. She is just pissed. Beware of her guys if she is giving out personal info.

DatDude1799
12-13-12, 15:27
Are they still in service and does anyone have their contact info? A PM would be appreciated. And also is anyone having problems using the search bar mine is not working at all.

Member #4505
12-13-12, 16:30
I saw a posting from Autum about not hosting Strawberry any more and no further postings from Stawberry. Is she gone now?She broke the chains of oppression. I'm glad she got away from her pimps.

Thorbane
12-13-12, 16:59
I saw a posting from Autum about not hosting Strawberry any more and no further postings from Stawberry. Is she gone now?Yeah she does not want to do this anymore. And moved on to other things.

TheCatholicGuy
12-13-12, 19:56
Claims to be in Cincinnati and Dayton.

Can't find a review anywhere.

She's listed as being 24 at BP and 25 at NR. 5'3-5'5, short brown hair, brown eyes, B-cup, and in school for massage therapy.

TGTBT?

Thwack
12-13-12, 21:52
Yeah she does not want to do this anymore. And moved on to other things.I'm glad for her. She didn't seem to enjoy the job very much. She's a nice kid who probably hasn't had very many nice things happen to her. I hope she is able to make a success with whatever she chooses to do.

Wickman
12-13-12, 23:46
Hello everyone, just wondered what everyone thought of the advertisers who put pics with themselves performing with a man. Not any different than porn I guess but comes off a bit tacky to me so I'm just wondering what everyone else thinks. Thoughts?

ChickaAmante
12-14-12, 00:00
Jessie, thanks for your update. I think she needed some coaching on communication. She seemed impatient and very short tempered in my experience to try to set up time with her. Oh well, its a moot point now.

You take care and be well. Happy Holidays! Chicka.


Hey guys from here on out I will have nothing to do with bella. I thought she had potential and would make a great addition. She is no longer working and will not be placing anymore ads. To those of you who contacted her and couldn't set up something I am sorry.

DatDude1799
12-14-12, 14:58
Is anyone else having issues with the search bar. And who do I contact to get it fixed they messing with my research I feel like a noob asking some of these questions cause I can't look it up.

Lookr71
12-14-12, 16:08
Is anyone else having issues with the search bar. And who do I contact to get it fixed they messing with my research I feel like a noob asking some of these questions cause I can't look it up.I was having issues the other day but it is working fine today.

Lookr

Rumbln
12-14-12, 21:56
Claims to be in Cincinnati and Dayton.

Can't find a review anywhere.

She's listed as being 24 at BP and 25 at NR. 5'3-5'5, short brown hair, brown eyes, B-cup, and in school for massage therapy.

TGTBT?She was with the Fan4 group and then took some time off. I've searched for reviews a couple times but found nothing.

Member #4215
12-14-12, 21:57
That was a nice way to get out of not showing. I had another Provider write Me telling Me that You were late and then cancelled the following day. Had You of said I was anything but ugly, I may have agreed but I'm far from unattractive and I'm positive that %99 of those who have seen Me, Would agree. Just show up or cancel if You cannot make it. It's that simple.

I'm giving out Personal info? I'm giving out Your number to only Providers in PM whom have asked. So They are warned of no-show possibilities. It's okay for Hobbyists to give numbers of Providers to other Hobbyists for good & bad reasons. What's the difference?

If You have any further comments or questions please PM Me. Thank You and Happy Holidays to All!


I did not make the appointment, she is not attractive and I passed on her. She is just pissed. Beware of her guys if she is giving out personal info.

Bobby1862
12-14-12, 22:55
Hello everyone, just wondered what everyone thought of the advertisers who put pics with themselves performing with a man. Not any different than porn I guess but comes off a bit tacky to me so I'm just wondering what everyone else thinks. Thoughts?Those type of ads would probably make me feel inadequate, but I have not seen them on this board that I can remember...

Member #5011
12-14-12, 23:29
Just saying, you know what they do so why should we care? They are here for our fun and by showing us this, it just shows us they are the real deal. Just my. 02 cents. Rock on.


Those type of ads would probably make me feel inadequate, but I have not seen them on this board that I can remember.

BeardlyWizard
12-15-12, 02:58
Hello everyone, just wondered what everyone thought of the advertisers who put pics with themselves performing with a man. Not any different than porn I guess but comes off a bit tacky to me so I'm just wondering what everyone else thinks. Thoughts?I have no issue with it. There was some big stink a few months back with one of the other providers posting an action shot. I thought it was pretty hot. But some people got super butt hurt over it. So it's different strokes for different folks I guess.

MassageFreak
12-15-12, 09:56
I have seen her, and yes she makes no bones about being a little heavier, but she is a pretty gal. What makes her, is her personality and attitude. When I am in her area again, I will definitely repeat. Just my opinion. MF.


That was a nice way to get out of not showing. I had another Provider write Me telling Me that You were late and then cancelled the following day. Had You of said I was anything but ugly, I may have agreed but I'm far from unattractive and I'm positive that %99 of those who have seen Me, Would agree. Just show up or cancel if You cannot make it. It's that simple.

I'm giving out Personal info? I'm giving out Your number to only Providers in PM whom have asked. So They are warned of no-show possibilities. It's okay for Hobbyists to give numbers of Providers to other Hobbyists for good & bad reasons. What's the difference?

If You have any further comments or questions please PM Me. Thank You and Happy Holidays to All!

MollyDaniels
12-15-12, 11:39
I have no issue with it. There was some big stink a few months back with one of the other providers posting an action shot. I thought it was pretty hot. But some people got super butt hurt over it. So it's different strokes for different folks I guess.Yes, I remember that 'stink', and in retaliation, I do believe I posted all the most naughty, raunchy pics I could possibly find.

Who cares? There's complaints if there are no pictures, and then there are complaints about the pictures. You can't please everyone all the time.

MD

Fdx17
12-15-12, 17:10
Has Erika retired? I used to see ads on BP and nr. I tried to send her a message but have got no reply.

She is one of the ladies I wanted to visit. There is a Erika when you do a BP search but not the one I am looking for.

The Erika I am trying to find worked with Crisee.

Fdx17

WjgJoe
12-15-12, 17:15
I finally had the pleasure of spending some dream time with Madelyn / Mz Hollywood and was it worth the wait. Had her bodyslide went into a total GFE and she does mean she does not have a NO NO list. All I can say is WOW I'm already thinking of the fun on my next visit. She has been spooked lately with some of the providers getting in trouble so she is being very cautious. I now know what I want for my Bday in Jan! Thanks Madelyn for a fantastic dream! Wjgjoe

BigD001
12-15-12, 20:20
I have called a few ladies tonight and all of them are the same they want references, so my question is what the fuck is that? LOL

Thwack
12-16-12, 00:08
I had the privilege of seeing Kendra Banks for the second time today. She was even more awesome than last time! It took some work to communicate with her, though. Her new number (advertised here today) was not working. I called numerous times with no success. So I sent her a PM with my number, which she eventually received and called.

I learned from Kendra that she never arrived in her Northern location today, because last night a monger stole her cash and her cell phone. She didn't have the money to drive North or to rent the new incall, and didn't have any way to receive calls from new customers. To compound matters, even after borrowing a friend's phone to contact her scheduled customers, today she had 4 customers no-show. Two did not call, and one called to say he was on his way but then he did not show up at all!

Guys, we can do better than this. I understand that schedules change, and things happen. I have cancelled with providers on more than one occasion. But I have NEVER stood one up. That's like double-robbing her! These girls provide one of the most valuable services on earth. We need to encourage them, not make their job harder! And because she couldn't drive closer to me, I had to drive to her. This cost me time and money. More importantly, it delayed me getting laid-and that shit ain't right!

This rant was brought to you by a satisfied and quite empty monger. I'm Thwack, and I approve of this message. And of Kendra's luscious, clean, delicious, throbbing, squirting pussy.

VirginLibra
12-16-12, 00:09
Hi,

I am planning to see Candice tomorrow, I have read a lot of good reports of her, just want to confirm how is she & what all is available with her? Is her incall a safe place?

VL

BeardlyWizard
12-16-12, 01:29
Yes, I remember that 'stink', and in retaliation, I do believe I posted all the most naughty, raunchy pics I could possibly find.

Who cares? There's complaints if there are no pictures, and then there are complaints about the pictures. You can't please everyone all the time.

MDAnd hot damn did I enjoy seeing those one's as well. Ty Miss Molly!

Dweezil
12-16-12, 02:21
Yes, I remember that 'stink', and in retaliation, I do believe I posted all the most naughty, raunchy pics I could possibly find.

Who cares? There's complaints if there are no pictures, and then there are complaints about the pictures. You can't please everyone all the time.

MDAnd when I saw them, it was like looking at old vacation pictures as I thought "yeah. That's just what it looked like when I did that! I should do that again soon."

Seriously, if you cruise the pic gallery, it seems like different cities have different norms on this one. Some cities, I think Orlando, it looks like both mongers and providers post a fair amount of action pics. Nothing as good as Ms. Molly's tangy little' twat, but still. Action pics. There's a guy somewhere who makes a habit of posting his "facial trade-mark" pics of every date he has. I'm not sure how I feel about all those half assed smirky smiles as the provider thinks "this shit in my eye really burns" but hey, whatever turns ya on (and it seems to be just an accepted part of the board down there). And there's Baldy out in LA who every once and a while drops a pic of him working over his most recent find.

On the other side you've for Cookie in Philly who posts about a million pics a day but they're all stripper pole style pics, maybe some posed girl on girl, but never any action that I can recall.

I didn't understand all the flap about Ms. Molly's action pic. As I recall, there was only one and I thought it was hot as f*ck to see her stretched out a little and I wouldn't mind seeing a little more of that local home grown porn. Someone suggested that seeing providers in action might make some of us mongers feel inadequate. Com'on, grow a pair. LOL.

When I whip out my Louisville slugger with a provider, the odds are always good that the last guy in whipped out Paul Bunyon's axe handle. Who cares what was in there 4 hours ago. I'm focused on what's in there now. Dicks come in as many shapes and sizes as tits and we all know the girl with the biggest tits (or even the most solid tits) ain't always the best lay or BJ in town.

For those that suggest action shots someone attract uncle leo. You think they don't know what's going on or that this is the first time any of them have seen Tab A inserted in Slot B?

Anyway. Just my late night 2 cent semi-toasted rant on the action shots. My vote ladies. Post'them if ya got'them. And if you don't want to post 'them. Just send'them directly to me via PM. I'll love'them just the same.

Have a great day.

Dz

Varoom
12-16-12, 04:36
I have called a few ladies tonight and all of them are the same they want references, so my question is what the fuck is that? LOLThat is called safe business practices. If providers are seeing anyone who calls, surely one of those callers will be uncle leo. Pop, there goes a provider and maybe also compromising her clientele too; [phone numbers, etc, if she keeps that info on a phone or computer]. So surely you are not that naive' that you really do not understand why providers ask for references, but on the off hand chance that you are serious, maybe you now have a bit of comprehension on the reason why this practice exists.

BFDeal
12-16-12, 06:31
I also enjoyed the raunchiest pics Miss Molly could find. She's head-to-toe hot!

BFDeal.


And hot damn did I enjoy seeing those one's as well. Ty Miss Molly!

Fdx17
12-16-12, 11:01
I could not agree more. These ladies are willing to provide what we want and should be treated well. I do hope she has enough information such as number, name and description to blacklist him with the other providers.

When I am out I appreciate the services provided. Not all providers enjoy what they do and it shows in their attitudes and reviews. When we have good talent out there it should be appreciated.

There is NEVER an excuse for this. Just like there is never an excuse for a provider to steal from a hobbyist. When this happens on either side the culprits should be driven out.

This might be a hobby for us but it is a way of life and income for them.

You don't want anyone to mess with your income, do not mess with theirs. If you can't make an appointment have the courtesy to cancel it.

Fdx17

BigD001
12-16-12, 11:31
That is called safe business practices. If providers are seeing anyone who calls, surely one of those callers will be uncle leo. Pop, there goes a provider and maybe also compromising her clientele too; [phone numbers, etc, if she keeps that info on a phone or computer]. So surely you are not that naive' that you really do not understand why providers ask for references, but on the off hand chance that you are serious, maybe you now have a bit of comprehension on the reason why this practice exists.Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!

TgtbtRedhead
12-16-12, 11:42
There seems to be some discussion on my weight lately on the board. Now the reg members know I do not post except for my ads to stay out of the drama but I am looking for a good photographer to take some new pics for my ads for me. That way it will put the weight issue to rest. Although those pics were just taken in August so they are pretty accurate. Plus, its just time for some new ones! Now, I have NEVER been a spinner or claimed to be but I think I am far from BBW material. For some reason every year at this time (HOLIDAYS!) I do put on a few pounds but when I say a few, I mean a few. Thankfully, after the New Year I drop it pretty quickly. Really I just want some new more professional pics so if there's any photographers out there or if someone has a recommendation please PM me.

And thank everyone who has come to see me, hope to see all my old friends and some new ones soon for my holiday specials!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Christina xoxoxoxox

TheCatholicGuy
12-16-12, 11:45
I could not agree more. These ladies are willing to provide what we want and should be treated well. I do hope she has enough information such as number, name and description to blacklist him with the other providers.

When I am out I appreciate the services provided. Not all providers enjoy what they do and it shows in their attitudes and reviews. When we have good talent out there it should be appreciated.

There is NEVER an excuse for this. Just like there is never an excuse for a provider to steal from a hobbyist. When this happens on either side the culprits should be driven out.

This might be a hobby for us but it is a way of life and income for them.

You don't want anyone to mess with your income, do not mess with theirs. If you can't make an appointment have the courtesy to cancel it.

Fdx17Men who abuse women or children need to be similarly abused or castrated.

SexyGirls
12-16-12, 13:21
Has Erika retired? I used to see ads on BP and nr. I tried to send her a message but have got no reply.

She is one of the ladies I wanted to visit. There is a Erika when you do a BP search but not the one I am looking for.

The Erika I am trying to find worked with Crisee.

Fdx17Erika retired for personal reasons.

Gatty23
12-16-12, 13:32
Everything was great when I visited her a little while ago.


Hi,

I am planning to see Candice tomorrow, I have read a lot of good reports of her, just want to confirm how is she & what all is available with her? Is her incall a safe place?

VL

WyldeChild99
12-16-12, 14:31
Gawd what a hottie!

Who's met with her?Just saw her yesterday, she was great. Pretty, responsive, GFE, with an awesome ass!

Worth getting in touch with for sure.

Bardan
12-16-12, 15:17
Has Erika retired? I used to see ads on BP and nr. I tried to send her a message but have got no reply.

She is one of the ladies I wanted to visit. There is a Erika when you do a BP search but not the one I am looking for.

The Erika I am trying to find worked with Crisee.

Fdx17Yes she has retired. She was not happy at all being a provider and has moved on to a regular job and is very happy right now.

Rumbln
12-16-12, 16:12
Has Erika retired? I used to see ads on BP and nr. I tried to send her a message but have got no reply.

She is one of the ladies I wanted to visit. There is a Erika when you do a BP search but not the one I am looking for.

The Erika I am trying to find worked with Crisee.

Fdx17Yeah she retired a while back. It's too bad because she was a good one.

HelpMeRhonda
12-17-12, 00:13
Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!Ok Big D, I am going to try to remember you may be a little slow, as you did not only refer to the providers here as hoes but ladies in the same sentence, Now onto your question we want provider references on others you have seen, I hope I am saying this in as simple terms as possible and not using to big of words, I happen to be one of the "hoes" you were referring to, we not only want to make sure you are not LE but that you are a respectful, safe, and a clean man, did you understand that? Hope so.

For everyone on the board I apologize for getting somewhat nasty, trust me I could have been worse, I chose not to, I have a HUGE problem with disrespectful human beings, damn I am so glad my clients are 100% men, thanks guys, I LOVE MY JOB! Happy Holidays once again to all the Ladies and Gentlemen alike! Rhonda

Cinyguy C
12-17-12, 02:22
That was a nice way to get out of not showing. I had another Provider write Me telling Me that You were late and then cancelled the following day. Had You of said I was anything but ugly, I may have agreed but I'm far from unattractive and I'm positive that %99 of those who have seen Me, Would agree. Just show up or cancel if You cannot make it. It's that simple.

I'm giving out Personal info? I'm giving out Your number to only Providers in PM whom have asked. So They are warned of no-show possibilities. It's okay for Hobbyists to give numbers of Providers to other Hobbyists for good & bad reasons. What's the difference?

If You have any further comments or questions please PM Me. Thank You and Happy Holidays to All!Yes, you did give out my personal info. You gave out my yahoo messenger I'd which was also my email address (I had to get rid of it since you publicly posted it). Also, check your post, I never said you were ugly. I said you were unattractive. That was my opinion. Some guys may think your attractive. Personally I do not.

Next time you want to try to blacklist someone. Just post a general message to the girls to contact you for their information. I sent you an I'm after you sent the pic that I was no longer interested, you must not have gotten it.

Thorbane
12-17-12, 08:54
Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!After looking over you last two post on the Board about references. Ok a Reference in this hobby is a provider you have seen and will verify you if call or messaged from another provider no more no less. Ok the catch 22 is if I can not see no provider because I have no reference what am I supposed to do? Well there are some website that you can get verified by and then makes it easier to be seen by a provider that requests them. Or you can see a provider that as for no references then prehaps after seeing her you might be able to use her to see another provider. But as my fellow Varoom said its for the protection of the provider. But you really don't have to said your words "what a fucking Joke!" you mght want to learn some board etiquette as providers read these posts and helps them get some idea what kind of person you are. Hope this helps you out.

OldGoober
12-17-12, 09:42
Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!You really don't want to have fun with any of these ladies do you. Always treat a woman like a lady, even if she does not act that way, to behave in any other manner lessens you not her. I have yet to meet a girl from here that has acted unlady like and all have behaved in a professional manner. Given that, I love women, women of all shapes and sizes they are all beautiful and all deserve respect, remember some of them are some ones mother, they are all some ones daughter, treat then well and the joy they will return to you will be immeasurable. Behave like a dolt and call them "Hoes" and I am pretty sure that you will get nothing and like it. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

Varoom
12-17-12, 09:43
Deleted caustic reply to BD... because it is Xmas. Varoom is trying to get into the Xmas spirit; thinging about tying some mistle toe to my belt buckle... that usually helps. Merry fucking Xmas to you BD.

Fdx17
12-17-12, 09:54
1st. Tgtbtredhead has no weight issues. I saw her in early November. She may or may not remember me. We talked about motorcyles upon my arrival and she shared with me that she is from a town that has a couple of big rallies each year. (I did not name the town because that is her story to tell, although I doubt she cares if you know where she is from)

2nd. Thanks to everyone that replied to my Erika inquiry. I do understand some girls come into this with certain ideas then discover they cannot handle the pressure. I do hope she loves her new life.

Fdx17

Pointer100
12-17-12, 10:40
Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!WOW, I don't even know what to say. Maybe a little common courtesy, or maybe you should not even be looking here. I think Reading road might be better suited for what you are looking for.

Fdx17
12-17-12, 10:45
1. TgtbtRedhead does not have a weight problem. I seen her early November and she may or may not remember me. We talked about motorcycles upon my arrival and she shared she is from a town that has a couple of big rallies every year. I also told her to ask to see my junk. She laughed and asked me. (My reasoning is I am in her "house " what 2 people want to do in private is their business.) No Le would ask and if they did I was just complying with their request. I then made the same request to her and we had a great time. I am way too nervous to be in this hobby. Thank you, Christina.

2. Thank you to everyone that replied to my Erika request. I understand some ladies get into this and it does not meet their expectations or they cannot handle the pressures. I do hope Erika does enjoy her new life.

Fdx17

Iceman5646
12-17-12, 12:22
So far I've just been checking the board out. I just must say for a bunch of guys that dream with such gorgeous women, ya`ll are high strung.

I'm not sure who to take the plunge with first, so much reading pages of info. Have a Merry Christmas everyone.

Cowboy E
12-17-12, 12:56
Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!It is obvious you will not get any were with the LADIES here. Maybe you should call your mom first and ask how a gentleman should conduct him self when in a ladies presents. She would possibly say no different than you would in front of her. Second learn to do your home work. If you were bright enough you would notice our ladies here ask for gentleman only most will ask for gentleman over 30 some even prefer upwards of more the senior type. HMMM? Lets think about this. Could that be that the Gentlemen in the age range have grown out of adolescents and puberty, have the funds and have reasons to stay utr. Also the are able to show that the have a grasp of the English language and able to conduct a reasonable conversation. I could go on and on with your lesson but I have an appointment. This Cowboy will always say what would the Duke do. LOL

Have a nice day.

SilkyWet
12-17-12, 13:35
Bigd001,

What on earth is your problem? Seriously how are you ever going to get any help on this board responding the way you are. And while you call us hoes you must like us enough to persistently ask the same question. Its because of guys like you that we require refrences. Its all apart of the business. The bashing is also unneccesary. You have made yourself look like a 3 yr old throwing a fit cause someone won't give him his way. I for one would not even see you if you had the right refrences. You have a bad vibe and negative attitude. And shame on you for coming on here and bashing hobbyist. They offer alot of useful intel and you just blew your chance at any help. But for your enjoyment here's what a refrence is=a referal from another provider that covers 2 main thing your not a cop and how the session went. So theirs the answer to your question.

Have a great day.

Cincyeast52
12-17-12, 14:39
I am firmly on the side of Old Goober.

Respect and a display of humanity go a long way.

To throw around the term "hoe" is just sickening.

Buster6914
12-17-12, 14:58
Sounds like a mommy issue to me so let's not be too hard on BigD, he probably can't help himself. Anyone who uses the term "hoe" is either a "gangsta", a teenager, an idiot, or at the very least an immature fool. IMHO. I don't think too many of the ladies on here will want to see him anyway.


I am firmly on the side of Old Goober.

Respect and a display of humanity go a long way.

To throw around the term "hoe" is just sickening.

TheCatholicGuy
12-17-12, 14:59
We never met, but I certainly wish her well in the future.

3-Minute Passion
12-17-12, 15:27
The women who choose to allow select men to spend time with them are special. It is neither easy nor safe to do what they do, day in and day out. In fact, I know if the tables were turned I wouldn't be able to do it. Too much stress, too much uncertainty. Think of the dangers they have to negotiate each day, between odd, potentially violent, customers to law enforcement.

If I were in the profession, though, I can tell you this. I would never consider seeing someone who refers to ladies in the profession as hoes or any other derogatory term. That should be a tip off that the person does not respect you. And when there is no respect bad things can happen. This mindset generally comes from people of low intellect or from those who are ignorant. Clearly, any person who chooses to denigrate those he wishes to spend time with is a bit. Well, dim.

I believe these women are practicing a profession like any other and I hold them in high regard.

God bless the women who are willing and able to do this. Be safe, ladies, this holiday season and year round.

Ilapp
12-17-12, 15:56
Yes, I remember that 'stink', and in retaliation, I do believe I posted all the most naughty, raunchy pics I could possibly find.

Who cares? There's complaints if there are no pictures, and then there are complaints about the pictures. You can't please everyone all the time.

MDBecause you certainly pleased me all the time.

Bobby1862
12-17-12, 19:33
I am firmly on the side of Old Goober.

Respect and a display of humanity go a long way.

To throw around the term "hoe" is just sickening.The man is just talking common sense!

BigD001
12-17-12, 19:38
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TheCatholicGuy
12-17-12, 19:54
Have any other providers gotten texts about this website.

www.potentialprostitutes.com?

Well some do gooder has put me on there and weird numbers keep harrassing me saying that I am working for the cops and I am not and saying it looks bad for me and that they won't see me and blah blah but its 100$ to have your shit taken off there. I am irate that someone has done thsi to me and I wish I knew who did it but its like the dirty website anyone can pout whatever on there whether its false or not they can just do this!Really. Don't pay them a cent!

BetterWhoIs shows that the owner / administrator is Gottfrid Swartholm in Stockholm, Sweden.

BoredinIN
12-17-12, 19:58
Have any other providers gotten texts about this website.

www.potentialprostitutes.com?

Well some do gooder has put me on there and weird numbers keep harrassing me saying that I am working for the cops and I am not and saying it looks bad for me and that they won't see me and blah blah but its 100$ to have your shit taken off there. I am irate that someone has done thsi to me and I wish I knew who did it but its like the dirty website anyone can pout whatever on there whether its false or not they can just do this!Wow, I checked out the website you posted about. Hopefully we have some tech savvy member that can crash it or something. It doesn't seem like a big threat, as I think they just targeted providers that post on BP, but it does seem like a shady online shake down. From their FAQ page "Why do I have to pay to remove my remove my profile? Removal is a paid service due to the costs associated with altering the content of the site on an individual basis." Yeah F-ing right! Seems like slander to me, but I am far from a lawyer. If these scumbags do get any money from a hard working girl then I do truly wish bad things upon them.

TheCatholicGuy
12-17-12, 19:58
Gottfrid Swartholm is the co-founder of The Pirate Bay torrent site. He's also in trouble with Swedish authorities suspecting him of fraud and data intrusion, along with the alleged hacking of the IT company Logica.

Like I said, it's probably a scam. Probably to pay his legal bills.

EricDraven
12-17-12, 21:25
Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!A reference is someone who knows you and will speak to your character. The entire point of requiring references is so they can avoid people like you. Your ex wife would be a perfect reference. The provider could call her and she would tell her what a douche bag you are so the provider knows to avoid you. It seems like a catch 22 (That is a literary reference from a book called Catch-22. To sum it up a catch 22 is "a problematic situation for which the only solution is denied by a circumstance inherent in the problem or by a rule") but its really not. Some providers are able to tell within the first minute of talking to you on the phone weather you are someone they are interested in seeing. They won't ask for a reference and you can use them in the future as a reference. Obviously that is not an option for you. Your never going to get a quality provider. You best chance is to find a street girl who needs a fix real bad. She won't care what kind of person you are.

EricDraven
12-17-12, 21:40
Have any other providers gotten texts about this website.

www.potentialprostitutes.com?

Well some do gooder has put me on there and weird numbers keep harrassing me saying that I am working for the cops and I am not and saying it looks bad for me and that they won't see me and blah blah but its 100$ to have your shit taken off there. I am irate that someone has done thsi to me and I wish I knew who did it but its like the dirty website anyone can pout whatever on there whether its false or not they can just do this!I like how the FAQ tell you not to sue them under "The Communications Decency Act". I would sue them under copyright infringement. If you own the rights to the photographs then they cannot use them on their web site. If you search online you can probably find a "notice of copyright infringement" that you could send them.

Bobby1862
12-17-12, 23:00
Have any other providers gotten texts about this website.

www.potentialprostitutes.com?

Well some do gooder has put me on there and weird numbers keep harrassing me saying that I am working for the cops and I am not and saying it looks bad for me and that they won't see me and blah blah but its 100$ to have your shit taken off there. I am irate that someone has done thsi to me and I wish I knew who did it but its like the dirty website anyone can pout whatever on there whether its false or not they can just do this!Seems like a POS website.

Rojo1970
12-17-12, 23:42
Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!One can hope that his account is now abandoned / deleted. Some peoples ignorance and stupidity never cease to amaze me. I can't even begin to describe how disgusted this post made me. This is what happens when you let trash have a computer.

Ladies, on behalf of the real men out here I apologize for this neanderthal.

Rojo

SwimTowin
12-17-12, 23:52
Been awhile since I've been south of Dayton, but when I did travel I always made time for stormy or wet velvet. Any word as to what happen with her? Please PM should she want to stay utr.

Vicsajo
12-18-12, 00:40
I like how the FAQ tell you not to sue them under "The Communications Decency Act". I would sue them under copyright infringement. If you own the rights to the photographs then they cannot use them on their web site. If you search online you can probably find a "notice of copyright infringement" that you could send them.The copyright infringement angle is about the best you could shoot for. But most of these sites are operating so far outside the law (possibly hosted in another country where they could give a s$%t less about copyright infringement). It's just a mass shakedown that hopes to find people crazy enough to believe that paying them will do anything but simply signal them that the've got someone on the hook. I betcha after you pay them. They ask for MORE money or you appear on "more" sites that they are willing to help you remove yourself from.

Vicsajo
12-18-12, 01:08
Bigd001 what on earth is your problem? Seriously how are you ever going to get any help on this board responding the way you are. And while you call us hoes you must like us enough to persistently ask the same question. Its because of guys like you that we require refrences. Its all apart of the business. The bashing is also unneccesary. You have made yourself look like a 3 yr old throwing a fit cause someone won't give him his way. I for one would not even see you if you had the right refrences. You have a bad vibe and negative attitude. And shame on you for coming on here and bashing hobbyist. They offer alot of useful intel and you just blew your chance at any help. But for your enjoyment here's what a refrence is=a referal from another provider that covers 2 main thing your not a cop and how the session went. So theirs the answer to your question. Have a great dayJessie handles this with such class. Where I typically see some miscreant make a bashing post and the board lights up with providers going for blood and taking the insults so personally. Jessie understands this is just some poor misguided soul and retains her composure and even manages to accurately answer the guys question. Kudos to Ms Pleaser for a drama free response. Just one more reason to really appreciate her. Thanks Jessie.now. If the idiot would kindly just leave. (I guess I'm not as nice as Jessie)

MollyDaniels
12-18-12, 02:14
Seems like a POS website.I'm pretty sure it is just a site that rips off BP ads. Then they probably use a bot to send out text messages using the listed numbers.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, honestly. They are just drumming up visitors to their site to boost 3rd party advertising revenues.

MD

Cowboy E
12-18-12, 08:46
The women who choose to allow select men to spend time with them are special. It is neither easy nor safe to do what they do, day in and day out. In fact, I know if the tables were turned I wouldn't be able to do it. Too much stress, too much uncertainty. Think of the dangers they have to negotiate each day, between odd, potentially violent, customers to law enforcement.

If I were in the profession, though, I can tell you this. I would never consider seeing someone who refers to ladies in the profession as hoes or any other derogatory term. That should be a tip off that the person does not respect you. And when there is no respect bad things can happen. This mindset generally comes from people of low intellect or from those who are ignorant. Clearly, any person who chooses to denigrate those he wishes to spend time with is a bit. Well, dim.

I believe these women are practicing a profession like any other and I hold them in high regard.

God bless the women who are willing and able to do this. Be safe, ladies, this holiday season and year round.Holding the most incredible women in HIGH Regard. Thank you now that is commendable and an excellent choice of words.

MuskieXavier
12-18-12, 11:06
Way to go Jess!

Boatload
12-18-12, 11:13
I usually post in Louisville; however, over the past several months I have checked the Cincinnati board for "Escort Classified Ads. Posted by Escorts. No Reviews or Commentary" section and don't understand why the talent is so much better there. Yesterday there were at least six escorts I would see in a second. Louisville-Missy? Its enough to make you cry and maybe even want to move there. A fellow Louisville poster suggested I also post here in hopes of attracting a few of your gems to come to Louisville every so often. UTR, please note, thanks. Boatload

Jry Wild1
12-18-12, 12:38
I met up with Ally (aka Sinful Dreams) a few days ago. Since she is well-reviewed and highly respected here, I don't know that I have anything that can improve upon her reputation. So, I will just cover the highlights of our time together.

She was staying in a beautiful suite in one of Greater Cincinnati's nicest hotels. Being as this was not our first encounter, there was no hesitation or needing to "get to know each other".

We relaxed for a bit in the steaming hot jacuzzi tub that the suite offered and chatted. After which, we dried off and cooled down with some refreshing icy beverages. We proceeded to partake of some special dining and then Ally put on a very exciting magic show using a special Magic Wand that she has. We went on to engage in some of the more traditional pursuits and low-and-behold, the Magic Wand made another appearance. LOL. I must say that there was a very pleasant vocal performance as well.

Ally is a wonderful companion and any man would be pleased to spend some time with her. Always upscale and professional; and also wonderfully friendly and engaging. She is a pleasure that I will certainly repeat.

All my best,
JRW1

TheCatholicGuy
12-18-12, 13:47
I met up with Ally (aka Sinful Dreams) a few days ago. Since she is well-reviewed and highly respected here, I don't know that I have anything that can improve upon her reputation. So, I will just cover the highlights of our time together.

She was staying in a beautiful suite in one of Greater Cincinnati's nicest hotels. Being as this was not our first encounter, there was no hesitation or needing to "get to know each other".

We relaxed for a bit in the steaming hot jacuzzi tub that the suite offered and chatted. After which, we dried off and cooled down with some refreshing icy Beverages. We proceeded to partake of some special dining and then Ally put on a very exciting magic show using a special Magic Wand that she has. We went on to engage in some of the more traditional pursuits and low-and-behold, the Magic Wand made another appearance. LOL. I must say that there was a very pleasant vocal performance as well.

Ally is a wonderful companion and any man would be pleased to spend some time with her. Always upscale and professional; and also wonderfully friendly and engaging. She is a pleasure that I will certainly repeat.

All my best,

JRW1I'm meeting her today at 3:30.

Bobby1862
12-18-12, 16:55
I usually post in Louisville; however, over the past several months I have checked the Cincinnati board for "Escort Classified Ads. Posted by Escorts. No Reviews or Commentary" section and don't understand why the talent is so much better there. Yesterday there were at least six escorts I would see in a second. Louisville-Missy? Its enough to make you cry and maybe even want to move there. A fellow Louisville poster suggested I also post here in hopes of attracting a few of your gems to come to Louisville every so often. UTR, please note, thanks. BoatloadBoatload,

Your boards are pretty rarified but that Jami lass seems cute and sweet Missy does seem to dominate the ads. What's up with the the talk about food?

PhatDaty
12-18-12, 17:56
Hey Varoom, thanks for the reply, but you are NOT answering my question. My question is what is a reference? Not why use a reference. I understand these hoes don't want a stranger who could be a leo. I just don't have any references, I'm completely confused, should I just give them my mom's phone number so they can verify with her or call my ex wife and ask her LOL. If this is what you have to do to get to meet one of these ladies then what a fucking joke!I am pretty sure you just ended your need for any references with that post. I can think of only a few ladies on this board that would be willing to see you, but for those that are just reading and are confused a reference comes from ANOTHER PROVIDER that has seen you. The need for references is quite obvious, but lets list a few just so others don't make the mistakes you have made:

Things Provider C may ask of one of your references (Provider A and Provider B that you have already seen) :

1) Confirms that you are not a LEO

2) Confirms that you are drug and disease free.

3) Confirms that you are not some misogynistic creep [Deleted by Admin]

4) Confirms that you did not short her on the donation (two twenty doller bills with blank pieces of paper or lower denominations stuffed between them when you put your envelope on the dresser)

5) Confirms that you don't have any physical problems the potential provider might need to know about.

6) A good provider might do some research on what your likes and dislikes are and asks this of your reference, if they are willing to share-you might be thankful for this.

7) Confirms that you are not some stalker that keeps texting and calling after your session.

8) Confirms that you were a gentleman BCD.

9) Confirms that you were clean and fresh, and did not smell of goat in your nether regions.

10) Confirms that you show up on time and leave on time.

They are others, but that should give the general jist of things. Communication is good for them and us. Frankly, I won't see a lady that does not ask me for references before our first session, because it is usually indicative of a sloppy provider that does not worry about LEO on the prowl or these other crucial areas that impact all of us.

PhatDaty
12-18-12, 18:01
Deleted caustic reply to BD. because it is Xmas. Varoom is trying to get into the Xmas spirit; thinging about tying some mistle toe to my belt buckle. that usually helps. Merry fucking Xmas to you BD.Merry Christmas to you, Varoom. Way to stay above the fray.

TheCatholicGuy
12-18-12, 18:50
I spent an amazing 90 minutes with this beautiful lady!

I will definitely see her again!

LurkinGround
12-18-12, 20:00
Saw the post from EE, Melea looks nice, anyone, intel?

PM please, thanks in advance

OhioSucks
12-18-12, 21:27
She's legit. Good times in nky area.


Saw the post from EE, Melea looks nice, anyone, intel?

PM please, thanks in advance

TC6969
12-19-12, 01:12
Boatload,

Your boards are pretty rarified but that Jami lass seems cute and sweet Missy does seem to dominate the ads. What's up with the the talk about food?Interesting board they got going on down Ky way. If you piss off a SP your dog gets antifreezed and I thought the chatter in Cincinnati and Dayton was bad.

Boatload
12-19-12, 01:19
Boatload,

Your boards are pretty rarified but that Jami lass seems cute and sweet Missy does seem to dominate the ads. What's up with the the talk about food?Missy can't spell shit and her context leaves much to be desired. Her misspelling of a food item led several to comment using her normal spelling.

WyldeChild99
12-19-12, 10:09
Saw the post from EE, Melea looks nice, anyone, intel?

PM please, thanks in advanceNice girl, petite and pretty. I recommend you book her.

ScuttleNutt
12-19-12, 14:58
Had the pleasure of spending some time with Alyssa from Eloquent Evan's modeling service the other day.

Frankly, I wish I would have done so long ago. The setup was very easy after confirming I was a USAG member and I was off to her place. EE was even able to set me up on short notice.

First off, Alyssa is a seductress. I like to believe that she actually enjoys her dreams and is more than happy to please you.

After some brief introductory talk, we had a dream that felt like something right out of a movie. I left feeling VERY satisfied.

Now, if you're looking for a spinner (which I never am, who likes girls who are skin & bones?) , Alyssa is not your girl. She's not a BBW but she has very nice curves. She's very pretty and looks like a woman should.

Overall I would say:

Price: 9.

Looks: 8.

Service: 9.

Accommodations: 7.

Location: 8.

Seniors, PM for details. (The board has become a little sketchy in my opinion. Don't feel comfortable putting everything out there.)

Enjoy fellas!

Bobby1862
12-19-12, 19:16
Had the pleasure of spending some time with Alyssa from Eloquent Evan's modeling service the other day.

Frankly, I wish I would have done so long ago. The setup was very easy after confirming I was a USAG member and I was off to her place. EE was even able to set me up on short notice.

First off, Alyssa is a seductress. I like to believe that she actually enjoys her dreams and is more than happy to please you.

After some brief introductory talk, we had a dream that felt like something right out of a movie. I left feeling VERY satisfied.

Now, if you're looking for a spinner (which I never am, who likes girls who are skin & bones?) , Alyssa is not your girl. She's not a BBW but she has very nice curves. She's very pretty and looks like a woman should.

Overall I would say:

Price: 9.

Looks: 8.

Service: 9.

Accommodations: 7.

Location: 8.

Seniors, PM for details. (The board has become a little sketchy in my opinion. Don't feel comfortable putting everything out there.)

Enjoy fellas!EE's has gotten good to great reviews here and the other boards. Wish I didn't so far away!

Bobby1862
12-19-12, 21:58
Missy can't spell shit and her context leaves much to be desired. Her misspelling of a food item led several to comment using her normal spelling.Ok, this is WAY off Cincinnati topic to say the least, but I have scrolled though the poor Louisville "Thread: Escort Classified Ads. Posted by Escorts. No Reviews or Commentary" and laughed my behind off. Past few months are great! Boatload sir, I have laughed, and Boatload, Missy seemed to have come on the scene a year ago and the lass cannot be stopped. Cincy folks, go through the posts and be amused to say the least. Boatload, You have more Cred than I do, but my main observation is that this section should be only for advertisements, period. Keep the Missy comments on the "Escort Classified Ads - Member Discussions" not in the "Thread: Escort Classified Ads. Posted by Escorts. No Reviews or Commentary", since if I were advertising, I would say WTF with all of the off topic Missy bantering. 6 months ago and before Louisville seemed to have some great providers advertising and still have some good ones. The current Jamielynn advertising does seem to be very cute, and I wish Louisville well, and the current Missy and Charmin posts are priceless!

Member #4249
12-20-12, 01:01
There seems to be some discussion on my weight lately on the board. Now the reg members know I do not post except for my ads to stay out of the drama but I am looking for a good photographer to take some new pics for my ads for me. That way it will put the weight issue to rest. Although those pics were just taken in August so they are pretty accurate. Plus, its just time for some new ones! Now, I have NEVER been a spinner or claimed to be but I think I am far from BBW material. For some reason every year at this time (HOLIDAYS!) I do put on a few pounds but when I say a few, I mean a few. Thankfully, after the New Year I drop it pretty quickly. Really I just want some new more professional pics so if there's any photographers out there or if someone has a recommendation please PM me.

And thank everyone who has come to see me, hope to see all my old friends and some new ones soon for my holiday specials!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Christina xoxoxoxoxJoined the site like you suggested to me yesterday. Thanks. Don't really know my way around it yet but I came across this about weight. Whatever. Didn't see anything that bothered me. You look great! Most important. I had a great time. Easily the best overall experience I have had. Very friendly, put me at ease, fair, had great fun, felt good and relaxed all day. I don't really know any photographers. Sorry. Anyway. Have a great Christmas and looking forward to seeing you soon.

MassageFreak
12-20-12, 09:22
I have seen destiny. As I have always said, the personality and attitude are number one with me. This lady has a stellar personality and attitude. Really cute girl but is on the heavier side which I can overlook easily. Awesome massage skills as well. I had a wonderful time with her. I will definitely repeat many times. 5 minutes off 471, easy to get to. Definitely tries to make you comfortable and makes you feel at ease quickly. Can't say enough about her!

MassageFreak
12-20-12, 09:34
We all understand your angst on this issue. But with me or example, sometimes I may see a providers ad, but I am not in an area where I can speak freely. Sometimes I text to conduct business quietly. I know this is not a great explanation, but this is my experience and probably the same for he majority of guys who text you. As for texting or calling late at night, most are probably trolling late, when they have time without distractions and are in the mood. Just make sure your ads are clear on time restrictions. Never put personal info on any site, about having kids. Some will you that against you. I'm sure it's a pain in your ass, but some guys prefer do start business this way. Hope this sheds a little light on your problem.


Ok all of my ads all over the internet say to not text my phone. Now no matter what I have dudes texting it left and right and not being very courteous to the fact that I do not do business thru text. I have my reason why one is it wastes my mins and I only have so many every month. And that takes away from me being able to call people. I think it is rude that I have it in bold underlined letter to not text yet people still do? Can they not read? I don't get this! And people are calling and texting me all hours of the day and night when I have my hours on my site that I work and see clients. Why are people so rude? Do these men think I'm up all night dressed staring at my phone ready to walk out the door? Nooo I'm not I have a 6 yr old! Duh sorry this is driving me nuts!

HarryHobbiest
12-20-12, 09:38
Hey gang,

Is it me? Or has anyone else out there noticed the amazing variety never before seen on this board in the CVG area? Seriously. I've been not only noticing more variety than ever but the quality of provider continues to improve by the week. When you account for the surge in independent providers participating on this board when combined with other agents like Buddah and Eloquent Eleven there is not only a surge of improved provider quality but the rates have never been better. This is a true demonstration of capitalism at its best as it is clearly a buyer's market right now. The higher the supply when demand is either the same or has gone down the prices drop! Of the nearly thirty completely different provider names you can count by going back in time on this board within only the past week or so we can now find providers of outstanding physique, beauty and above all: intelligence at rates I've never seen in this market! Ever!

It's no wonder we're also noticing complimentary commentary from out of area mongers on this board.

Why has this board become so successful? My two cents observation is this: the quality of our reporting is better here than on other boards in general. Sure, we have our share of flamers and posers but all-in-all, at least to me, it appears that our CVG board has a highest quality nature to it in terms of the reporting "community" here. To some extent we even "nurture" our newbies by reminding them to RTFF and learn the ropes first.

Kudos to everyone (especially providers) and may we all have an amazing Holiday season while we share the harvest!

Happy Nude Year!

Harry

Upullandpay
12-20-12, 12:05
Thinking of seeing her, Any info would be appreciated! There have been only a couple of reviews on her.

Zomby
12-20-12, 20:56
Ok all of my ads all over the internet say to not text my phone. Now no matter what I have dudes texting it left and right and not being very courteous to the fact that I do not do business thru text. I have my reason why one is it wastes my mins and I only have so many every month. And that takes away from me being able to call people. I think it is rude that I have it in bold underlined letter to not text yet people still do? Can they not read? I don't get this! And people are calling and texting me all hours of the day and night when I have my hours on my site that I work and see clients. Why are people so rude? Do these men think I'm up all night dressed staring at my phone ready to walk out the door? Nooo I'm not I have a 6 yr old! Duh sorry this is driving me nuts!You should ask your carrier if they can turn texting off for you. Many, including the pay-as-you-go ones, will do so. Some will even turn it off for all numbers *except* those you specify, such as family members or a carrier's billing service, if you get your phone bill via text. Some also offer only getting the headers, so you can see who it's from from before downloading, and paying for, a message.

/z

BFDeal
12-21-12, 08:23
Get 2 phones. One for biz and one for your personal stuff (family, etc). When you're closed for business, turn off the business phone and put it away for the day.

BFDeal.


Ok all of my ads all over the internet say to not text my phone. Now no matter what I have dudes texting it left and right and not being very courteous to the fact that I do not do business thru text. I have my reason why one is it wastes my mins and I only have so many every month. And that takes away from me being able to call people. I think it is rude that I have it in bold underlined letter to not text yet people still do? Can they not read? I don't get this! And people are calling and texting me all hours of the day and night when I have my hours on my site that I work and see clients. Why are people so rude? Do these men think I'm up all night dressed staring at my phone ready to walk out the door? Nooo I'm not I have a 6 yr old! Duh sorry this is driving me nuts!

MassageFreak
12-21-12, 09:12
I just got to say, every picture this little hottie puts up, is more stunning than the last. I have not seen her, but at some point I am sure I will. This girl always keeps it classy!

JoeMan64
12-21-12, 09:38
Thinking of seeing her, Any info would be appreciated! There have been only a couple of reviews on her.If you like BBWW then it might be your liking. She is very nice and has a full menu and will also serve it in greek if you are into this food?

It was difficult due to her due to her not being experienced. So be nice and hope you have fun.

Fdx17
12-21-12, 11:29
I just got to say, every picture this little hottie puts up, is more stunning than the last. I have not seen her, but at some point I am sure I will. This girl always keeps it classy!Don't take too long. She told me in February or March she will be moving. Where she is moving to is not that far so if she wanted to come back and visit us from time to time she could, but she also says she will be retiring with the move.

Fdx17

WordSmithFour
12-21-12, 13:10
I just got to say, every picture this little hottie puts up, is more stunning than the last. I have not seen her, but at some point I am sure I will. This girl always keeps it classy!Dawn is definitely worth it, and not long for the business. I believe her retire date is in Feb.

PhatDaty
12-21-12, 16:26
I just got to say, every picture this little hottie puts up, is more stunning than the last. I have not seen her, but at some point I am sure I will. This girl always keeps it classy!You should move her to the top of your list-best provider in town IMHO.

DickHerDown
12-21-12, 20:39
I just got to say, every picture this little hottie puts up, is more stunning than the last. I have not seen her, but at some point I am sure I will. This girl always keeps it classy!Dude, this is the hottest chick on the board! If you're into spinners, you need to make time to see her ASAP!

HendoKy
12-21-12, 21:08
OK. I need some 'Asian Delight'. Anyone got one stashed away UTR? I have been out of the Nati for a few months and looking for something exotic now that I am back. I am not meaning to insult my old friends here that have given me fine dreams in the past but there is something about the Asian gals that make me go crazy. Anyone?

Hendo

Member #4249
12-21-12, 23:09
Ok all of my ads all over the internet say to not text my phone. Now no matter what I have dudes texting it left and right and not being very courteous to the fact that I do not do business thru text. I have my reason why one is it wastes my mins and I only have so many every month. And that takes away from me being able to call people. I think it is rude that I have it in bold underlined letter to not text yet people still do? Can they not read? I don't get this! And people are calling and texting me all hours of the day and night when I have my hours on my site that I work and see clients. Why are people so rude? Do these men think I'm up all night dressed staring at my phone ready to walk out the door? Nooo I'm not I have a 6 yr old! Duh sorry this is driving me nuts!I do pay attention to who does not want any texts and to my knowledge have not done that against anyone's will. During the day I am at work and calling usually will not work and at night. At least earlier. The kids and almost-ex are around and they don't need to hear anything. So late at night is usually when I can discretely contact someone. Email and text are usually the easiest way to set something up. That late though I never expect anyone to be available. It would be for later. When I am travelling and in a hotel room. That is when I am able to call at a decent hour. Sorry it does not really help. But like Massagefreak. It is not trying to be rude and it sometimes cuts down on who we are able to contact when we are able to contact. But you are right. Your requests should be respected.

PhatDaty
12-21-12, 23:33
Ok all of my ads all over the internet say to not text my phone. Now no matter what I have dudes texting it left and right and not being very courteous to the fact that I do not do business thru text. I have my reason why one is it wastes my mins and I only have so many every month. And that takes away from me being able to call people. I think it is rude that I have it in bold underlined letter to not text yet people still do? Can they not read? I don't get this! And people are calling and texting me all hours of the day and night when I have my hours on my site that I work and see clients. Why are people so rude? Do these men think I'm up all night dressed staring at my phone ready to walk out the door? Nooo I'm not I have a 6 yr old! Duh sorry this is driving me nuts!I agree with you that it is rude for folks to continue to text you if you have asked them to stop, and in your case, post it very clearly in your ads, posts, and website.

For what is worth, you may want to look into getting a better plan on your minutes, or a dedicated phone just for hobby use that has a better texting fee arrangement. From the perspective of the client, I often have to text a provider when setting up an appointment or if either of us have to adjust the meeting times etc. I am more often than not, in a situation where I CAN NOT answer the phone or talk on the phone freely. Texting is fantastic when there are eyes and hears around that you want to avoid. As your six year old gets a little older, you may have a need to do more arrangements via texting yourself, as you won't want certain phone conversations overheard.

Bobby1862
12-22-12, 01:25
OK. I need some 'Asian Delight'. Anyone got one stashed away UTR? I have been out of the Nati for a few months and looking for something exotic now that I am back. I am not meaning to insult my old friends here that have given me fine dreams in the past but there is something about the Asian gals that make me go crazy. Anyone?

HendoHendo,

For this area it may be best to look at "traveling companions". Not aware of many local Asian gals.

D Nut
12-22-12, 03:37
I have been disappointed by some of the ladies using old photos. When I say "old", I'm talking about YEARS. I understand that you feel the need to present yourself in the best light, but come on now. The lengths some go through just to shave a few extra years is just getting ridiculous. We see photos of someone approaching 30, and someone closer to 40 opens the door.

How about we set some groundrules? How about no photo older than a year is to be used on posts or websites, and if your weight fluctuates +- 20 pounds, you take new photos.

I really don't care if the photos are professional grade, or if they were taken with a cell phone. What's important is that the person we're expecting to meet, is the same person that actually shows up.

After all, ladies, what if you were expecting a date with Benjamin Franklin, but someone who looks like Ulysses Grant or Thomas Jefferson shows up? Wouldn't you be disappointed or mad too?

BFDeal
12-22-12, 08:58
Yes, you sound a little drawn out. It was just a suggestion. I saw a regular up here who had two phones and it worked out for her very well. You are always going to have creeps who can't read. That's why phones have off buttons. You sound a little stressed, dear. Hope it gets better for you. You are way hot to be that stressed.

BFDeal


I can't afford 2 phones and I don't have a personal one bc I hate the phone and this one just sucks. I'm getting a new one after Christmas. But that's not the point, the point is if an ad says do not text its not there for fun it means DO NOT DO IT. ITS NOT THAT HARD! Ya follow me here? If it says no greek it would be like calling and asking for it anyway.

Zomby
12-22-12, 09:12
I can't afford 2 phones and I don't have a personal one bc I hate the phone and this one just sucks. I'm getting a new one after Christmas. But that's not the point, the point is if an ad says do not text its not there for fun it means DO NOT DO IT. ITS NOT THAT HARD! Ya follow me here? If it says no greek it would be like calling and asking for it anyway.If you're getting a new phone, and a new number, after Christmas, I suggest you also set up a new gmail account, and a new Google Voice number to go along with it, especially if it's a smart phone, like an iPhone or Android one. It's not quite as flexible on a dumb phone, but if you have a computer (and if you're posting here, you likely have at least common access to a smart phone or computer) then it's still pretty useful. There's an app for both iPhone and Android that makes using it even simpler.

In fact, you can set up Google Voice so that it rings your old sucky phone, and manage it from the other one, or the computer.

You can turn texts off entirely, restrict calls and texts to certain days and hours, group callers so that some ring your phone directly when they call, some go straight to voicemail, while still others have to announce their name before ringing through, and best of all, you can block numbers so that they get a "not a working number" message when they call, and you never even have to know they called. The "Do not disturb" feature basically sends everybody to voicemail for a specified period of time, or until U-turn it off.

A very useful service, even for those outside the hobby.

/z.

Um, I am not affiliated with Google. (:

PhatDaty
12-22-12, 10:40
I can't afford 2 phones. .The pun is intended to not only get your attention, but to reveal a basic truth.

Darling, lest we forget you are running a business. This is a cost of doing business. Whether you are selling apples, oranges, or computer circuitry, do what any merchant would do: Figure out your cost, desired profit margin, and pass any remaining cost onto your consumer. As to your distaste of the phone, well that is crucial to your business.

This leads to a natural question, that any ladies must ask herself at some point, for the sake of their own sanity: "Do I work in this industry because I enjoy it, or do I do this out of pure necessity?" That will help put every aspect of this current role you find yourself into proper perspective. This little exercise will help you throughout life, no matter what you ultimately select as your career.

If this is merely a job to you, there is nothing wrong with that, but let me assure you, you will never find the "perfect" job. If people are being honest with themselves, they will also be able to define the portions of their job they love, like, tolerate, and disdain. Keep in mind, like it or not, a provider is in the service industry and interface with your clients is a crucial aspect of that career field. We can't always be in a place where we can pick and choose only the more enjoyable tasks of our given career, and still expect to earn a fair wage at it. This is true in every job title we ever wear.

I am not trying to lecture you, I am just trying to pass on some life wisdom to you. In fact I knew thirty years ago, what I know now-it would have saved a great deal of frustration and strife.

To make this post come full circle with the opening pun let me end by suggesting this: Do you like to suck cock, or are you just good at divesting yourself during the activity and putting on the illusion of enjoying that activity? See it really doesn't matter what aspect of the job you are talking about. The key to happiness and success is learning how to whistle while you work.

MollyDaniels
12-22-12, 10:43
Fake / old pictures are really starting to annoy me. I understand that some ladies do not want to post pictures for everyone see, but we do have providers that don't post pictures, but will upon request. So why post fake ones, or ones that are 10 yrs old? Men think with their little heads, and keep this behavior going by not refusing an appt with a provider that mis-represents herself. Hell, there are plenty of well-reviewed providers that are still using old pics, and still getting rave reviews, with no mention of the fake pictures and / or weight / age gain.

Obviously, BP is ripe with fake pictures, but it should not be an issue with the more legit boards. Maybe we should just start a new thread labelled 'fake / old pics' and include all providers who do this. Maybe that will induce them to update their pictures. If you are not a spinner, it's really easy to honestly shed a few pounds in a picture by posing on a bed, with your head hanging off the bed and looking back at the camera, with your legs crossed.

If I have been seeing the exact same pics for over a year, then they have to be old / fake. Every phone has a camera nowadays, and I'm sure that no hobbyist would ever refuse to snap a few new pics for a provider.

Just my opinion.

Kisses,

MD

Member #4249
12-22-12, 11:31
I can't afford 2 phones and I don't have a personal one bc I hate the phone and this one just sucks. I'm getting a new one after Christmas. But that's not the point, the point is if an ad says do not text its not there for fun it means DO NOT DO IT. ITS NOT THAT HARD! Ya follow me here? If it says no greek it would be like calling and asking for it anyway.Maybe one of these days we can meet. I can give you a good hard back, neck, scalp, temple, hand, foot massage and put phones out of your mind. And take the 6 min BBBJCIM challenge (guarantee?) I saw on an earlier (Octoberish) post. I'll be sure to call though.

Cowboy E
12-22-12, 15:56
I asked my provider for a special request. I have a gang bang fantasy and she said if I could put together a group that was gentleman over 40 and knew the rules and that was for sure that we made here feel safe she would give it a go. Some have seen her some have not. She is alot of fun but to do this she has got to feel safe she said if I put together 10 respectful men she would give it a go. So I need 10 guys to play the game its 150 per, and its all donations for 5 star and snacks byob. Pm me for the details. This is for tonight only and reservations must be made by 7pm party will start at 10 or 11 pm.

D Nut
12-22-12, 17:49
I am not affiliated with Google. (:I don't know. Sounds awefully lot like you're schilling for Google and Google voice.

Redgate
12-22-12, 18:23
It's a scam and I fell for the obvious signs, my mistake.

The link is http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andlt3-cute-andlt3-petite-blonde-hair-blue-eyes-baby-doll-25/12157397

She is the girl in the picture and she is pretty.

Zomby
12-22-12, 19:41
I don't know. Sounds awefully lot like you're schilling for Google and Google voice.Won't deny the latter, I just don't want anyone to assume that it's because I'm affiliated with them. I'm not. I just think that GV is a good deal for us, when managed properly.

/z

Thorbane
12-23-12, 08:33
Maybe one of these days we can meet. I can give you a good hard back, neck, scalp, temple, hand, foot massage and put phones out of your mind. And take the 6 min BBBJCIM challenge (guarantee?) I saw on an earlier (Octoberish) post. I'll be sure to call though:-DOk is it just me? Or is there others out there who are reading this post and wondering why you are posting this? Maybe in the furture you could send this to the provider as a PM because that who it was intened for? Just assuming that? Yes this is a Member discussions area and you have a right to post here as much as I do but where could this lead to any discussions? Just throwing out my 2 cents worth.

Thorbane
12-23-12, 08:41
Fake / old pictures are really starting to annoy me. I understand that some ladies do not want to post pictures for everyone see, but we do have providers that don't post pictures, but will upon request. So why post fake ones, or ones that are 10 yrs old? Men think with their little heads, and keep this behavior going by not refusing an appt with a provider that mis-represents herself. Hell, there are plenty of well-reviewed providers that are still using old pics, and still getting rave reviews, with no mention of the fake pictures and / or weight / age gain.

Obviously, BP is ripe with fake pictures, but it should not be an issue with the more legit boards. Maybe we should just start a new thread labelled 'fake / old pics' and include all providers who do this. Maybe that will induce them to update their pictures. If you are not a spinner, it's really easy to honestly shed a few pounds in a picture by posing on a bed, with your head hanging off the bed and looking back at the camera, with your legs crossed.

If I have been seeing the exact same pics for over a year, then they have to be old / fake. Every phone has a camera nowadays, and I'm sure that no hobbyist would ever refuse to snap a few new pics for a provider.

Just my opinion.

Kisses,

MDThank you as a Provider bringing this to light. There seems to be a few new providers that are doing that here. But I also see a trend where Providers are posting no Pics at all or no link to there website where pics are posted. I have posted about that in the rant and rave section.

Thorbane
12-23-12, 10:57
I can't afford 2 phones and I don't have a personal one bc I hate the phone and this one just sucks. I'm getting a new one after Christmas. But that's not the point, the point is if an ad says do not text its not there for fun it means DO NOT DO IT. ITS NOT THAT HARD! Ya follow me here? If it says no greek it would be like calling and asking for it anyway.Well are there members from this board that are texting you? Or is the problem is that since you also run ads on Backpage which is know to be full of Creeps causing the problems. The more places you run ads the more chance of you running into this and many other problems.

Member #4249
12-23-12, 11:58
Ok is it just me? Or is there others out there who are reading this post and wondering why you are posting this? Maybe in the furture you could send this to the provider as a PM because that who it was intened for? Just assuming that? Yes this is a Member discussions area and you have a right to post here as much as I do but where could this lead to any discussions? Just throwing out my 2 cents worth.You may be right. No offense meant. New to this and just trying to learn my way around this forum. Just felt like lightening the mood a little. Anyway. Anything beyond this post would certainly be in PM form in any case.

Thanks for the advice

D Nut
12-23-12, 13:31
It's a scam and I fell for the obvious signs, my mistake.

The link is.

http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andlt3-cute-andlt3-petite-blonde-hair-blue-eyes-baby-doll-25/12157397

She is the girl in the picture and she is pretty.How were you scammed? Upsell? Bait-and-switch? Take the money and run? Three card Monty? Shell game? Multi level marketing? Ponzi scheme? Or the worst. She sells Amway! Aaaaaaaaa!

But seriously, what's the scam? The info would be useful to help avoid it.

D Nut
12-23-12, 14:44
Fake / old pictures are really starting to annoy me. I understand that some ladies do not want to post pictures for everyone see, but we do have providers that don't post pictures, but will upon request. So why post fake ones, or ones that are 10 yrs old? Men think with their little heads, and keep this behavior going by not refusing an appt with a provider that mis-represents herself. Hell, there are plenty of well-reviewed providers that are still using old pics, and still getting rave reviews, with no mention of the fake pictures and / or weight / age gain.

Obviously, BP is ripe with fake pictures, but it should not be an issue with the more legit boards. Maybe we should just start a new thread labelled 'fake / old pics' and include all providers who do this. Maybe that will induce them to update their pictures. If you are not a spinner, it's really easy to honestly shed a few pounds in a picture by posing on a bed, with your head hanging off the bed and looking back at the camera, with your legs crossed.

If I have been seeing the exact same pics for over a year, then they have to be old / fake. Every phone has a camera nowadays, and I'm sure that no hobbyist would ever refuse to snap a few new pics for a provider.

Just my opinion.

Kisses,

MDMolly- nice pics. You're making the investment not only in photos, but in keeping yourself in good shape and maintaining a good attitude, that it's reaping rewards.

I agree with most everything you said, but I don't think a separate thread is needed. If a provider is reviewed, part of that review should include a comparison between her posted / e-mailed / texted / website photos, and the person who the customer actually met.

More importantly, customers should not be afraid to just walk away. I have done so numerous times and I have no regrets of doing so. If more customers demand a level honestly in the business, it will become the standard, as opposed to being the exception.

It is a buyer's market. It's always a buyer's market. If one provider isn't dealing on the up-and-up, there is another one just as pretty (or prettier) who will. Taller, shorter, blonde, brunette, redhead, spinner or BBW- whatever you're into, there will be someone who is honest just waiting for your call and your cash.

The only question is, are you willing to part with your cash in exchange for a half-hearted session from a provider who doesn't appeal to you as much as you were deceived to be? Or are you going to be more stringent to whom you choose to give you hard earned cash?

TheDaytimer
12-23-12, 14:49
Sorry I couldn't make it. How did it go?

How many guys showed up and how long was the party. Inquiring minds need to know.


I asked my provider for a special request. I have a gang bang fantasy and she said if I could put together a group that was gentleman over 40 and knew the rules and that was for sure that we made here feel safe she would give it a go. Some have seen her some have not. She is alot of fun but to do this she has got to feel safe she said if I put together 10 respectful men she would give it a go. So I need 10 guys to play the game its 150 per, and its all donations for 5 star and snacks byob. Pm me for the details. This is for tonight only and reservations must be made by 7pm party will start at 10 or 11 pm.

TheDaytimer
12-23-12, 14:50
Molly,

If all of the ladies kept their pics up to date like you do, (and Dawn does) , this would be fantastic. Both of you keep yourselves in fantastic shape and are proud to show it off. ! ! Thanks.


Fake / old pictures are really starting to annoy me. I understand that some ladies do not want to post pictures for everyone see, but we do have providers that don't post pictures, but will upon request. So why post fake ones, or ones that are 10 yrs old? Men think with their little heads, and keep this behavior going by not refusing an appt with a provider that mis-represents herself. Hell, there are plenty of well-reviewed providers that are still using old pics, and still getting rave reviews, with no mention of the fake pictures and / or weight / age gain.

Obviously, BP is ripe with fake pictures, but it should not be an issue with the more legit boards. Maybe we should just start a new thread labelled 'fake / old pics' and include all providers who do this. Maybe that will induce them to update their pictures. If you are not a spinner, it's really easy to honestly shed a few pounds in a picture by posing on a bed, with your head hanging off the bed and looking back at the camera, with your legs crossed.

If I have been seeing the exact same pics for over a year, then they have to be old / fake. Every phone has a camera nowadays, and I'm sure that no hobbyist would ever refuse to snap a few new pics for a provider.

Just my opinion.

Kisses,

MD

Mmslim84
12-23-12, 14:55
Molly,

I agree and think it would be a great way to quickly weed out this problem or at least understand that pics are not up to date or even legit.

I see Dnut has a different view but this thread would mean less time needed to identify thisproblem. I also, like Dnut have walked away without hesitation, after all pics and services are factors that made choose said provider, along with I spend my money how I decide.

JMHO.

Thanks.

MM.


Fake / old pictures are really starting to annoy me. I understand that some ladies do not want to post pictures for everyone see, but we do have providers that don't post pictures, but will upon request. So why post fake ones, or ones that are 10 yrs old? Men think with their little heads, and keep this behavior going by not refusing an appt with a provider that mis-represents herself. Hell, there are plenty of well-reviewed providers that are still using old pics, and still getting rave reviews, with no mention of the fake pictures and / or weight / age gain.

Obviously, BP is ripe with fake pictures, but it should not be an issue with the more legit boards. Maybe we should just start a new thread labelled 'fake / old pics' and include all providers who do this. Maybe that will induce them to update their pictures. If you are not a spinner, it's really easy to honestly shed a few pounds in a picture by posing on a bed, with your head hanging off the bed and looking back at the camera, with your legs crossed.

If I have been seeing the exact same pics for over a year, then they have to be old / fake. Every phone has a camera nowadays, and I'm sure that no hobbyist would ever refuse to snap a few new pics for a provider.

Just my opinion.

Kisses,

MD

Cowboy E
12-23-12, 19:39
Sorry I couldn't make it. How did it go?

How many guys showed up and how long was the party. Inquiring minds need to know.I really think We thru it out there not giving time for Gentleman to plan. So lets try a different approach. I had several gentleman pm me 6 actually but I put to tight of a time line to pull it off. I know we can do this but she is going to be very critical on who attends and I do know that the ones she pics to participate must be very gentle gentlemen and respectful. It is a blessing that she will do this for me and I want her to feel like a goddess in control of her servants. So guys pm me I will disclose my providers identity and the time and location will be given. I would like to set it up by Friday or Saturday. Any input from my fellow participants would be greatly appreciated and excepted. So we are looking for 10 smooth operators. Pm me so we can make plans gentleman. And for those that contacted me thanks. Happy hunting

TheCatholicGuy
12-23-12, 23:39
Spent an hour this evening with the beautiful Chrissee.

Very talented, very personable.

A five star provider. Would love to see her again.

TMaxxx5324
12-24-12, 00:05
I am searching for someone work in call abilities and a full menu close to Middletown. Anybody know of anyone? I would truely appreciate the heads up. Thanks on advance.

Fdx17
12-24-12, 06:43
Spent an hour this evening with the beautiful Chrissee.

Very talented, very personable.

A five star provider. Would love to see her again.I know some providers with various spellings of the same name. I am not familiar with this one.

Is this a typo or do I need to do more homework?

Fdx17

PillowTalk69
12-24-12, 07:49
Visit and looking for a lady for wide open play except don't like greek cuisine. Interested in senior vouches or high post guys who are regular contributors. Getting tired of standard fare and looking for that special holiday gift that guarantees both the lady and man a white Christmas. Age is not a deterent but at my age an experienced woman is preferred, not a one and done lady I am late 50's that I will admit to, excellent conversational skills that will leave any lady weak in the knees, love to kiss / dfk because I think it gets both engines revving, and love a woman who is vocal and directive and will tell you what and how she wants it. Any ladies who think they can provide that PM me. Guys I have talked with say they are abundant and love it also but so far have only met one who has but has moved out of the area to Lex and not willing to travel that far this time of year. Don't shoot the messanger. I am honest and EXTREMELY DISCRETE and expect the same out of any lady I share time with. I don't do drugs and won't spend time with anyone who does. Sorry just my feelings. Surely there are some ladies who love to play my way. Your identity will be guarded and NO ONE will know GUARANTEED. Have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year EVERYONE and may you all have a very white Christmas.

Pointer100
12-24-12, 11:58
Had a dream with Destiny Hugg, as reported before she is a 30's thicker girl who enjoys what she does. Private clean incall. Very easy to set up and went out of hewr way to make me feel comfortable in my dream. I am looking forward to dreaming about her again.

Redgate
12-24-12, 13:36
Strangely enough, Crissee has twice scheduled with a friend of mine, and twice did not show. He's not one to be rude or to make up stuff, so I have no idea what's going on there. I know she has decent reviews, however, it's enough for me to pass. As always, YMMV.


Spent an hour this evening with the beautiful Chrissee.

Very talented, very personable.

A five star provider. Would love to see her again.

TheCatholicGuy
12-24-12, 15:33
I know some providers with various spellings of the same name. I am not familiar with this one.

Is this a typo or do I need to do more homework?

Fdx17Yup. Typo. It's "Chrissee."

Rojo1970
12-24-12, 18:10
http://eroticmugshots.com/cincinnati-escorts/513-601-1909/?pid=11945025

I called a few weeks ago cause I thought she was cute, would try to see where it got me.

Told me she was near a specific buisness in fairfield, went there, let her know I was there, then she directed me to a bad hotel in Hamilton known for prostitutes. Texted again, then she tells me she needed me to get the room. I bailed. Bad feelings.

Since then, she has called and texted me at least 10 times randomly. Trying to get me to come see her. And the texts are NOT discrete.

Heads up.

Rojo

TheCatholicGuy
12-24-12, 20:51
http://eroticmugshots.com/cincinnati-escorts/513-601-1909/?pid=11945025

I called a few weeks ago cause I thought she was cute, would try to see where it got me.

Told me she was near a specific buisness in fairfield, went there, let her know I was there, then she directed me to a bad hotel in Hamilton known for prostitutes. Texted again, then she tells me she needed me to get the room. I bailed. Bad feelings.

Since then, she has called and texted me at least 10 times randomly. Trying to get me to come see her. And the texts are NOT discrete.

Heads up.

RojoI don't blame you a bit. It's why I stick to reviewed escorts. Preferably indies with websites and at least five four-star-or-better reviews.

And demand that she stop sending the texts.

Member #5011
12-24-12, 23:38
Wanted to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas.

Dad

TheCatholicGuy
12-25-12, 01:03
Happy New Year, too.

Luvsboobs
12-25-12, 03:25
Had a chance to spend some time with new girl Emily aka American Honey. Better looking than the pics she has posted. Service and enthusiasm were great. Senior or well known members pm for more details. Will repeat. As always YMWV.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1632057&viewfull=1#post1632057

Luvsboobs

BigMack
12-25-12, 08:23
Hope you found what you were looking for although uncovered candy canes are for the few SPs who love the feel and the ride. Have a Merry Christmas my friend and if you found more than one share. LOL For the gents on USASG enjoy the Christmas season and may you get what you want the way you want it, actually the way most of us would love to get it but with a quality lady of course. Kisses and warm wet play and licks for the ladies. BMack

Utr In Ohio
12-25-12, 10:53
I hope everyone has a wonderful day today.

Merry Christmas to everyone!

Buddah

CMan5911
12-25-12, 12:57
Merry Christmas to all on here!

Rojo1970
12-25-12, 13:04
Just wanted to say Happy Holidays and a happy New Year to all my fellow hobbiests, AND to all you wonderful, lovely ladies who make it enjoyable.

Rojo.

Rogoh
12-26-12, 15:40
All,

I was looking at reviews on another web site and saw a review for Stormy / WetVelvet from late November. The last I remember was that see had a run in with the law and was serving a little time (although I did not know how much time). Is she back around or was that review total BS?

Roger

Member #3298
12-26-12, 23:18
Having never seen anyone to provide a reference. My Question to you Sinfull or anyone else is can this obsticle be overcome and how?

Dweezil
12-27-12, 02:11
All,

I was looking at reviews on another web site and saw a review for Stormy / WetVelvet from late November. The last I remember was that see had a run in with the law and was serving a little time (although I did not know how much time). Is she back around or was that review total BS?

RogerRight about the legal issues and right about the time off. My first inclination was to call BS on the review because Stormy felt like she got a lot of client flow off this board and it would surprise me that she's back in the saddle without showing up here.

Then I remembered a new post in the Advertisers Section by a "newbie" named EnvyMe. She claimed to be a returning provider. I have no data (pro or con) on this new name EnvyMe but maybe Stormy is back in the rotation. If so, I'll be interested to see if she's the same reliable provider that she was before her vacation.

I guess we'll find out when someone decides to TOFTT with EnvyMe.

Have a great day.

Dz

SilkyWet
12-27-12, 02:45
I agree with ally who doesn't check refrences I have turned down many dates because of this. It is for the safety of all the lovely providers we have to offer here in cincinnati. And as for this envyme it does sound a little too familiar with how she worded her ad. I know because I worked for her. Whomever she may be best of luck and be safe and if it is stormy good to have you back its about time we get another great provider like dawn molly and ally to name a few. Everyone else be safe and happy happy hobbying and happy new year. Hugs and soft kisses silk

BigMack
12-27-12, 07:27
Or high posters are a must. She is right on with that recommendation. Ladies are good who have vouches from well respected contributors or other ladies or men we know. To take a client cold is asking for problems for the lady or man. Just my opinion on this snowy morning. Good post Sinful

TheDaytimer
12-27-12, 07:45
EnvyMe is NOT stormy. I won't give out her I'd since she has taken care to hide it but it is NOT Stormy.

I did write to that oTERer site and told them it was a bullshit post.


Right about the legal issues and right about the time off. My first inclination was to call BS on the review because Stormy felt like she got a lot of client flow off this board and it would surprise me that she's back in the saddle without showing up here.

Then I remembered a new post in the Advertisers Section by a "newbie" named EnvyMe. She claimed to be a returning provider. I have no data (pro or con) on this new name EnvyMe but maybe Stormy is back in the rotation. If so, I'll be interested to see if she's the same reliable provider that she was before her vacation.

I guess we'll find out when someone decides to TOFTT with EnvyMe.

Have a great day.

Dz

TheDaytimer
12-27-12, 07:48
Yeah. I saw that post also and I agree. It is one thing to not bother to screen and take your chances, BUT, the advertise that you do not screen leaves you wide open for many things. 1-LE can easily slip in and 2-A "bad person" knows that you have no idea who they are and can take advantage of that situation.

Lets all try to keep this place at least a little safe.


So while perusing the Forum, I noticed some Providers are saying that they can see Clients without references. WOW is all I have to say. Not only is that VERY unsafe, it jeopardizes ALL of us when a provider doesn't check the references. I just find this absurd that a provider would go to that length to try and get business. And not to mention if any of the Hobbyists see her, then you don't care about the screening process, and this is just begging for LE to drop by.

I turned down several clients last week because they didn't have ANY type of references, and to me that just isn't okay with me. I ask for 2 references and I don't think that is a bad screening process. For the most part I try to answer my phone right away, but if not I do return calls or messages when I am available.

Be Safe,

Ally

Dweezil
12-27-12, 09:13
EnvyMe is NOT stormy. I won't give out her I'd since she has taken care to hide it but it is NOT Stormy.

I did write to that oTERer site and told them it was a bullshit post.Thanks for the info. The oTERer site being BS was my first thought. The review combined with that EnvyMe post caused a "things that make you go Hmmmmm" moment. Thanks for clearing it up quickly.

Can't wait to start seeing good reviews for EnvyMe. Don't know who she might be but wish her well as she reestablishes herself in the community.

Have a great day.

Dz

Utr In Ohio
12-27-12, 09:44
So while perusing the Forum, I noticed some Providers are saying that they can see Clients without references. WOW is all I have to say. Not only is that VERY unsafe, it jeopardizes ALL of us when a provider doesn't check the references. I just find this absurd that a provider would go to that length to try and get business. And not to mention if any of the Hobbyists see her, then you don't care about the screening process, and this is just begging for LE to drop by.

I turned down several clients last week because they didn't have ANY type of references, and to me that just isn't okay with me. I ask for 2 references and I don't think that is a bad screening process. For the most part I try to answer my phone right away, but if not I do return calls or messages when I am available.

Be Safe,

AllyI offer newbie hobbyist a chance. I screen them my way and refs are not always required. In the 90's before these sites existed, that's how you had to do it.

Years of experience and a proven track record of no busts or rip off reports means I must know how to screen safely.

I wouldn't recommend a new provider try this. But, once I screen them my way they come see all of you and have a reference from me.

How would a new guy get refs? He's new! If we have no new hobbyist we have no future.

Safe screening isn't only done by asking another agency or provider. There are many other ways.

Personally it scares me more to see 4 new girls a week asking for 2 refs. LOL.

Leo could easily post a pic and gather intel on hobbyist and providers that way.

Just my 2 cents.

Bucks97
12-27-12, 12:06
So while perusing the Forum, I noticed some Providers are saying that they can see Clients without references. WOW is all I have to say. Not only is that VERY unsafe, it jeopardizes ALL of us when a provider doesn't check the references. I just find this absurd that a provider would go to that length to try and get business. And not to mention if any of the Hobbyists see her, then you don't care about the screening process, and this is just begging for LE to drop by.

I turned down several clients last week because they didn't have ANY type of references, and to me that just isn't okay with me. I ask for 2 references and I don't think that is a bad screening process. For the most part I try to answer my phone right away, but if not I do return calls or messages when I am available.

Be Safe,

AllyI have never once provided a reference to a provider, nor do I ever plan to, nor do I see how not doing so affects my safety in any way, shape or form. I also find it annoying to have providers on here attempting to dictate terms of service for other providers.

I do understand why providers would want this. I'm not, however, willing to spend time giving or seeking references and waiting for them to be verified. Nor do I have any desire to tell new providers who else I've seen, or to tell former providers who I'm seeing now. Nor do I think they should have to spend their time providing references.

If Ally can run her business this way, more power to her. However, the fact that she's on here whining about others not playing by her rules suggests to me that she's having trouble doing this, or having to turn down too many potential customers who won't play along.

I am quite sure that there are providers on here or elsewhere, the vast majority, at least elsewhere, who never have used references. And, it's absurd even for providers who use references to expect all providers to do the same, since that would essentially prevent any new customer from ever entering the system.

As far as jeopardizing everyone, there's no guarantee that a provider who checks references isn't LEO. In fact, it would be a great way for LEO in an extended undercover operation to go about business, both to appear "safe" and to collect additional intel. While there are some additional assurances for the provider, one, two or any number of references are no guarantee the customer is safe either. There's nothing preventing a psychopath from accumulating a few good "references" on his way to doing something horrible. There's really nothing preventing LEO from working in a system that would generate some references, since drug-related vice operations essentially do this all the time.

In fact, I've known at least one provider who saw a client repeatedly, trusted him implicitly and then was one time raped brutally by the same man. This is very unfortunate, but it's a risk in this business, or in life itself, since I'm sure quite a lot of folks have had spouses who changed on them over time.

In short, the reference system provides no real assurance and is a useless inconvenience that may actually increase risks for mongers.

PhatDaty
12-27-12, 12:47
You sir, are a danger to all of us. References protect the hobby community from Leo and from perverted misogynist, stalkers, and guys that are twisted enough to mess with other hobbyist just for seeing their ATFs. I hope providers take note of your handle and boycott ever booking with you.

References are crucial to all of us, and your selfish attitude is dangerous to the hobby community.


I have never once provided a reference to a provider, nor do I ever plan to, nor do I see how not doing so affects my safety in any way, shape or form. I also find it annoying to have providers on here attempting to dictate terms of service for other providers.

I do understand why providers would want this. I'm not, however, willing to spend time giving or seeking references and waiting for them to be verified. Nor do I have any desire to tell new providers who else I've seen, or to tell former providers who I'm seeing now. Nor do I think they should have to spend their time providing references.

If Ally can run her business this way, more power to her. However, the fact that she's on here whining about others not playing by her rules suggests to me that she's having trouble doing this, or having to turn down too many potential customers who won't play along.

I am quite sure that there are providers on here or elsewhere, the vast majority, at least elsewhere, who never have used references. And, it's absurd even for providers who use references to expect all providers to do the same, since that would essentially prevent any new customer from ever entering the system.

As far as jeopardizing everyone, there's no guarantee that a provider who checks references isn't LEO. In fact, it would be a great way for LEO in an extended undercover operation to go about business, both to appear "safe" and to collect additional intel. While there are some additional assurances for the provider, one, two or any number of references are no guarantee the customer is safe either. There's nothing preventing a psychopath from accumulating a few good "references" on his way to doing something horrible. There's really nothing preventing LEO from working in a system that would generate some references, since drug-related vice operations essentially do this all the time.

In fact, I've known at least one provider who saw a client repeatedly, trusted him implicitly and then was one time raped brutally by the same man. This is very unfortunate, but it's a risk in this business, or in life itself, since I'm sure quite a lot of folks have had spouses who changed on them over time.

In short, the reference system provides no real assurance and is a useless inconvenience that may actually increase risks for mongers.

MassageFreak
12-27-12, 13:10
Enjoyed another spectacular massage with destinyhugg. As I reported before, superior personality, superior attitude, and cute as hell. 30ish, thicker girl, easy incall. 5 mins from 471. I will repeat many times. She did say she is running a massage special starting today so pm her for the details. MF.


Had a dream with Destiny Hugg, as reported before she is a 30's thicker girl who enjoys what she does. Private clean incall. Very easy to set up and went out of hewr way to make me feel comfortable in my dream. I am looking forward to dreaming about her again.

Fdx17
12-27-12, 13:29
I personally do not mind the reference checks. By the time I call I usually have done some homework and have a pretty good idea they are legitimately in the business. They on the other hand have no idea who is on the other end of the phone. If you have seen someone they happen to know, it makes it easy for them to confirm you. It may be only in my imagination but I believe I am likely to have a better experience if she is not worried about my arrival. There is no way I could take random calls, invite unknown people over and just hope I do not encounter a problem. Quite frankly I do not know how they manage this kind of pressure.

One of the best checks I ever encountered was I called and when asked for previous providers names she stopped me and said that is my sister. I said Ok if that is the case I am going to give you the house number and you are going to give me the street. I did and she did.

I may be a little different but I like everyone to be comfortable if possible. I know it is alot easier for me to see someone when I do not have to be concerned about getting new jewelery on my wrists when I arrive. When I do not have references that they know I still try to come to an arrangement where we can validate each other when I arrive but that depends on the provider.

Just my thoughts and opinion.

Fdx17

CincyGuy123
12-27-12, 13:39
Well there has to be SOME providers who don't require references otherwise how will newbies get into the game?

EastsiderGuy
12-27-12, 13:55
I have never once provided a reference to a provider, nor do I ever plan to, nor do I see how not doing so affects my safety in any way, shape or form. I also find it annoying to have providers on here attempting to dictate terms of service for other providers.

I do understand why providers would want this. I'm not, however, willing to spend time giving or seeking references and waiting for them to be verified. Nor do I have any desire to tell new providers who else I've seen, or to tell former providers who I'm seeing now. Nor do I think they should have to spend their time providing references.

If Ally can run her business this way, more power to her. However, the fact that she's on here whining about others not playing by her rules suggests to me that she's having trouble doing this, or having to turn down too many potential customers who won't play

In short, the reference system provides no real assurance and is a useless inconvenience that may actually increase risks for mongers.I agree 100. I have given references in the past only to have the provider call or text me back in less than 5 minutes to say I am now verified. Less than 5 minutes? She didn't verify anything! If the provider you are providing references too is working with LE, you are helping them build their case! That burner phone you use to hide your identity, it isn't worth a dime when LE can link it to your USASG handle because of a text message you sent providing references and your handle. We want to provide as little information as possible.

As far as Ally, before she had professional photos and raised her rates, I saw her. No references required. I'm sure she'll flame me and call me a liar but that is of no importance. All providers take clients without references because they have to build their clientele somehow. Now in the case of Ally, she probably has enough repeat clients that she doesn't need anyone new but the provider who is just starting, she'll take anyone who has green money.

Numero
12-27-12, 13:55
I have never once provided a reference to a provider, nor do I ever plan to, nor do I see how not doing so affects my safety in any way, shape or form. I also find it annoying to have providers on here attempting to dictate terms of service for other providers.

I do understand why providers would want this. I'm not, however, willing to spend time giving or seeking references and waiting for them to be verified. Nor do I have any desire to tell new providers who else I've seen, or to tell former providers who I'm seeing now. Nor do I think they should have to spend their time providing references.

If Ally can run her business this way, more power to her. However, the fact that she's on here whining about others not playing by her rules suggests to me that she's having trouble doing this, or having to turn down too many potential customers who won't play along.

I am quite sure that there are providers on here or elsewhere, the vast majority, at least elsewhere, who never have used references. And, it's absurd even for providers who use references to expect all providers to do the same, since that would essentially prevent any new customer from ever entering the system.

As far as jeopardizing everyone, there's no guarantee that a provider who checks references isn't LEO. In fact, it would be a great way for LEO in an extended undercover operation to go about business, both to appear "safe" and to collect additional intel. While there are some additional assurances for the provider, one, two or any number of references are no guarantee the customer is safe either. There's nothing preventing a psychopath from accumulating a few good "references" on his way to doing something horrible. There's really nothing preventing LEO from working in a system that would generate some references, since drug-related vice operations essentially do this all the time.

In fact, I've known at least one provider who saw a client repeatedly, trusted him implicitly and then was one time raped brutally by the same man. This is very unfortunate, but it's a risk in this business, or in life itself, since I'm sure quite a lot of folks have had spouses who changed on them over time.

In short, the reference system provides no real assurance and is a useless inconvenience that may actually increase risks for mongers.If we wanted to deal with a nagging pain in the a$$, we wouldn't be on this site. We'd be banging our wives and girlfriends. Anybody that "needs" a reference, please feel free to use me. What a joke.

For example, I PM'd EvyMe "for details" as she depicted in her first ad. What'd I get in return?

"Send me two references and like I said in my ad. I've been on this site before."

Thanks for those details. What a turn-on.

D Nut
12-27-12, 15:18
So goes the eternal debate- "How useful are references?". I have seen this question be raised over and over again by provider and hobbiest alike. Both sides have a point, and both sides fail to see that trying to convince the other of changing the other sides's point of view or policy. Forcing the issue just makes the other side even more skittish.

Let me TRY to find a middle ground. How about,"You do business your way, I'll do business mine, and we can just not argue.".

If a provider needs two references and you either can't or won't, don't worry about it. There are providers who don't require heavy screening, and you know what? If you like her service, you can even become a repeat customer and wouldn't have lost a single thing. The provider that needed the two references to get the warm and fuzzy feeling that the security of getting two references, well, I'm sure she'll be just fine even without your donation.

While we're on the subject, if a provider asks me for a reference, I would gladly be able to furnish some. However, I might ask her for verification as well. How do I know I can trust her? It's not just the ladies who have something to lose. Some men have just as much to risk when seeing a pro.

So, where is the middle ground? Well, back in 2006, when I first saw a Buddah girl (Shelby- she was a sweet blonde girl, early 20s, with lazy eye, but funny as hell! I repeated with mer a few times.) , I called Buddah from the parking lot of the Incall location. He said that there is to be no talk of money, or exchange of money, until AFTER the deed was done. If cash is even flashed or referred to, the session is over. Hooking up is not illegal. BDSM is not illegal. Casual physical relations between strangers is not illegal. It's only after money exchanges hands that the legal/illegal line is crossed.

I guess the way B saw it, he would rather lose the donation to a f-and-dash, rather than risk jail to someone unverified. Your actions during the session is what verifies you. Can LEO go through with the session, and pay after? Is that legal and will it stand up in court? I'm not a lawyer, so I can't say. But it certainly does taint LEO's testimony, doesn't it?

So you guys go ahead and squabble all you want. I'll be the one spending my energy having fun.